| verbalshadow | What's up with the ISO there isn't a livecd(x86/amd64) in 5 days http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 00:43 |
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| verbalshadow | but there is an DVD from today | 00:43 |
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| claydoh | verbalshadow: I see both there now, but I see no dvd or alternate cd | 01:04 |
| JontheEchidna | really? they all still look like they're from the 13th to me | 01:08 |
| verbalshadow | JontheEchidna: good to know i'm not the only one | 01:15 |
| claydoh | okee I need glasses I swear it said 1/18, honest | 01:23 |
| * claydoh really does need new glasses btw, broken frame | 01:23 | |
| JontheEchidna | eh, I could see how 3 could look like 8 | 01:28 |
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| claydoh | does being at work on a win-xp desktop help explain that away ? ;) | 01:33 |
| ScottK | OK, Quassel 0.5.2 in Lucid. Karmic SRU up next. | 01:44 |
| Sput | thanks ScottK :) | 01:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: does the jaunty upgrade patch in kdebase-workspace need to be kept around? | 01:59 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: for network manager stuff? | 02:00 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: yeah | 02:00 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I'm current working with aseigo to get the plasma scripting stuff in a working state for us to use for default setup and upgrades | 02:01 |
| Riddell | however that doesn't solve the network manager config file | 02:01 |
| JontheEchidna | are we supporting jaunty -> lucid upgrades? | 02:02 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I think we support Jaunty -> Lucid, so yes. | 02:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: any reason we should? | 02:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I know a significant number of people have problems with the new boot stuff in Kamric. | 02:03 |
| ScottK | I think it's pretty trivial to support, so why not? | 02:04 |
| Riddell | depends if JontheEchidna has a good reason for getting rid of that upgrade script :) | 02:04 |
| ScottK | True. | 02:04 |
| JontheEchidna | it might be nice for some people to not have kdebase-workspace-bin depend on python-kde4 | 02:05 |
| JontheEchidna | some people == gnomies | 02:05 |
| Riddell | it could be made optional, only running if python-kde4 is installed, people who don't have that installed probably don't use knetworkmanager. that doesn't feel terribly elegant somehow | 02:06 |
| Riddell | I'll talk to aseigo and see if he has ideas | 02:06 |
| Riddell | I also wonder what other distros did about this | 02:07 |
| ScottK | I think we may also need to remove obsolete ayatana notification config stuff too | 02:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think didn't ship KNM | 02:07 |
| Riddell | mm, right enough | 02:07 |
| Sput | knetworkmanager requires pykde? | 02:07 |
| Riddell | no, our config file upgrade script does | 02:08 |
| Sput | ah :) | 02:08 |
| ScottK | OK, so buildds are broken for Lucid. | 02:08 |
| Riddell | I'd have expected notifications to revert back to the default if ayatana isn't installed | 02:08 |
| Sput | Gentoo has a USE flag for pykde4, and we do ship KNM | 02:09 |
| Sput | we don't care about config updates though. | 02:09 |
| JontheEchidna | broken in the "we need to re-up the toolchain" broken? | 02:09 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Yep. | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | seems to happen once per cycle | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Broken pkg-binarymangler upload and it diverts dpkg-deb. | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I wonder if that's why I'm getting all these port build failures all of a sudden | 02:11 |
| ScottK | At least quassel failing on all archs isn't my fault. | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Probably | 02:11 |
| * Sput hopes it's not his | 02:12 | |
| ScottK | Nope. | 02:12 |
| ScottK | Sput: Did anything you committed after http://git.quassel-irc.org/?p=quassel.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac374ec32612798c230d54665f6bce7faf416602 affect the CTCP ignore change? | 02:13 |
| Sput | f6f67e9fa8012ce2cc is needed to make it not break | 02:14 |
| Sput | and I'm quite sure you want the other couple fixes too | 02:14 |
| Sput | the toggle-menubar-in-context-menu is important for users, since we tend to get a lot of questions about how to enable the menubar after accidentally hiding it | 02:14 |
| Sput | and the other thing is an important fix for netsplits (avoiding phantom users) | 02:15 |
| ScottK | For the post-release update, I need to be very focused. | 02:15 |
| Sput | I do understand, but the bugs fixed are sorta serious :) | 02:15 |
| Sput | in any case, f6f67e9fa8012c is part of the ignorelist fix | 02:16 |
| ScottK | OK. | 02:17 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 02:17 |
| Sput | np :) | 02:17 |
| * Sput embeds | 02:17 | |
| txwikinger | Anybody an idea how I can get the sound on Karmic for an nVidia Corporation MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller (rev a2) | 02:17 |
| txwikinger | working? | 02:17 |
| ScottK | Sput: This one, right: http://git.quassel-irc.org/?p=quassel.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6f67e9fa8012ce2cc45420838fa7469622d454e | 02:23 |
| ScottK | Rats | 02:24 |
| Sput | ScottK: yes | 02:24 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 02:24 |
| JontheEchidna | We can save 788 kb livecd-space by shipping the non-default k3b themes in a separate package | 02:57 |
| JontheEchidna | running optimizegraphics on the upstream source saved an additional 32 kb regardless. (committed to svn) | 02:58 |
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| * txwikinger wonders why he is not using LFS since he must patch kernel packages anyway | 03:24 | |
| crimsun | txwikinger: more details, please | 03:24 |
| crimsun | txwikinger: meaning, use http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 03:24 |
| crimsun | note the shebang | 03:25 |
| txwikinger | crimsun: I found the problem | 03:25 |
| txwikinger | it is the nvidia kernel modules | 03:25 |
| txwikinger | they don't build after the kernel is installed because of missing patches | 03:25 |
| crimsun | for sound? are you using nvsound, ossv4.1, or something else? | 03:26 |
| crimsun | or is this a clear case of resource contention at boot? | 03:26 |
| txwikinger | I am not sure if it will fix the sound, however, the audio controller is from nvidia | 03:27 |
| crimsun | I don't know which NVidia drivers you're referring to. | 03:27 |
| crimsun | if you're speaking of the "normal" *buntu NVidia drivers, they're graphics | 03:28 |
| crimsun | and have nothing to do with audio | 03:28 |
| txwikinger | DKMS | 03:28 |
| crimsun | nvidia-current? that's graphics. | 03:29 |
| txwikinger | well.. unfortunately one bug always leads to another | 03:29 |
| txwikinger | the audio basically does not find any sound devices | 03:29 |
| crimsun | txwikinger: is this current Kubuntu Lucid? | 03:30 |
| txwikinger | No karmix | 03:30 |
| txwikinger | No karmic | 03:30 |
| crimsun | txwikinger: ok, then please use that script (or ubuntu-bug alsa-base) | 03:30 |
| txwikinger | which script? | 03:30 |
| txwikinger | the DKMS is fixed now | 03:31 |
| txwikinger | I patched it | 03:31 |
| crimsun | 22:25 < crimsun> txwikinger: meaning, use http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 03:31 |
| freeflying | apachelogger: kimpanle was in karmic, and its merge into plasma-addons now | 03:42 |
| txwikinger | crimsun: http://pastebin.com/d7886b342 | 03:53 |
| ScottK | Back shortly. I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I need to restart my quassel core for the ctcp ignore stuff to do an overdue reboot. | 04:16 |
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| verbalshadow | ScottK: is the toolchain being broken the thing that stopped ISO builds? | 04:27 |
| ScottK | verbalshadow: No. That was just package building tonight. | 04:28 |
| ScottK | I think there was a mistake in the cron jobs that has now been fixed. | 04:28 |
| ScottK | jussi01, Sput, al, some quassel expert: I've got the package uploaded for a Karmic post release update. Someone please put instructions on how to enable the CTCP ignores in Bug #509287 | 04:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 509287 in quassel "[Needs Update] Quassel (Ignorelist adding ctcp ignore)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509287 | 04:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Quassel SRU is approved by ubuntu-sru, but I don't feel I should accept it since it's my upload. Over to you. | 04:40 |
| seele | Riddell: we made the PC-BSD guys cry because system-config-printer is written in python | 05:01 |
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| crimsun | txwikinger: do you really need to be running jaunty's kernel in karmic? | 05:28 |
| crimsun | txwikinger: i.e.: Kernel release: 2.6.28-11-generic | 05:28 |
| crimsun | txwikinger: also, there's a possibility you're getting the wrong driver attempted due to a conflicting modalias for snd-intel8x0. Please blacklist snd-intel8x0 and try snd-atiixp. | 05:37 |
| markey | morning folks | 06:21 |
| markey | any updates on the USB (Udev) situation? | 06:21 |
| markey | Riddell: this time I had to plug in my Keyboard 9 (!) times to make it work | 06:53 |
| markey | Riddell: please please look into these Udev issues :) | 06:53 |
| markey | Riddell: I can't work like this | 06:53 |
| Sput | markey: use an on-screen keyboard | 06:56 |
| markey | Sput: ah, once again, you save the day :) | 07:15 |
| markey | that is indeed a good solution | 07:15 |
| markey | could also glue a photo of a working desktop on my screen, how about that ;) | 07:15 |
| Sput | markey++ | 08:32 |
| * apachelogger giggles over Sput's creativity | 08:35 | |
| apachelogger | freeflying: yeah, thx, I archived the upload on revu | 08:35 |
| Sput | can't be creative before lowering the blood in my caffeine system to acceptable levels | 08:35 |
| apachelogger | that is a known limitation in a lot of deployments of homo sapiens sapiens | 08:37 |
| ghostcube | hi | 09:29 |
| markey | hi ho | 09:30 |
| markey | what's shakin' | 09:31 |
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| ScottK | quassel SRU for karmic is accepted. It'll be available for testing soon. | 11:14 |
| Riddell | that explains why I can't find it in the queue | 11:15 |
| ghostcube | ScottK: cool will test asap | 11:16 |
| Riddell | http://qt.nokia.com/about/news/nokia-releases-qt-4.6.1 all new | 11:26 |
| ghostcube | :O ui | 11:28 |
| Riddell | markey: no progress on the udev front I'm afraid, my e-mails havn't got anywhere :( | 11:28 |
| Riddell | markey: do you know other people with the same issue? | 11:29 |
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| Riddell | I wonder if an e-mail to ubuntu-devel would help | 11:29 |
| ghostcube | hmm qt beta for maemo too sounds good if i only would get my N 900 | 11:29 |
| markey | Riddell: hmm yes, ScottK also had issues, I think, and Mamarok sometimes (her USB HDD is not found). also Sebas said something, afair | 11:37 |
| markey | Riddell: and then this guy who posted the comment on Ars Technica, but I have no idea who he is | 11:37 |
| markey | well, and many bug reports on Launchpad | 11:38 |
| markey | Riddell: is this of any use to you? http://mark.kollide.net/ubuntu-bug-udev-output.txt | 11:39 |
| markey | crimsun had requested it from me | 11:39 |
| Riddell | not to me personally since I've no idea how udev works but maybe to someone | 11:39 |
| Riddell | trick is finding that someone | 11:39 |
| markey | yeah... | 11:40 |
| markey | unfortunately, I know next to nothing about Udev | 11:40 |
| markey | Riddell: one interesting hint: I heard from an Arch Linux dev who had similar issues. so maybe it affects several distros | 11:41 |
| markey | but that's unclear | 11:41 |
| Riddell | it's all so horribly inconsistent, bugs should either exist or not, if the keyboard works on the 10th try that's harder to track down than if it doesn't work at all | 11:41 |
| markey | yes... :( | 11:41 |
| markey | maybe this only happens with certain problematic BIOSes, or so, hard to tell... | 11:41 |
| danimo | fabo: ping? | 11:41 |
| markey | but I never had these issues before | 11:41 |
| Riddell | danimo: wanting the new Creator packaged? | 11:44 |
| danimo | Riddell: I am about to do that myself (including Qt), but my PPA size is not sufficient | 11:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: is there any quick way to increase its size? deletion isn't immediate | 11:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: we could as well do it in kubuntu-experimential and I will copy it over (so creator only users will not receive a new KDE automatically) | 11:51 |
| danimo | Riddell: the the space problem remains | 11:51 |
| Riddell | danimo: you need to ask a question on answers.launchpad.net/soyuz then (have me) poke the right person | 11:53 |
| Riddell | danimo: kubuntu-experimential would work yes | 11:53 |
| Riddell | I can copy packages into an archive regardless of size limits | 11:54 |
| danimo | Riddell: ah, ok | 11:54 |
| danimo | Riddell: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/97938 | 11:54 |
| danimo | Riddell: why can I only upload sources btw? | 11:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: binary uploads would be way faster, since I can build with -j20 at work | 11:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: and I have a chroot for karmic 32 bit | 11:57 |
| Riddell | danimo: uploading binaries is horribly unreliable, no way to ensure you compiled it against the packages in the distribution | 11:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: but it will consider dependant PPAs, right? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | when building yes | 11:57 |
| danimo | sure | 11:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: oh, the quota is on the actual PPAs? | 12:01 |
| danimo | Riddell: upps | 12:01 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:01 |
| Riddell | one work around is just to make a new PPA :) | 12:01 |
| danimo | Riddell: guessed so :) | 12:01 |
| Riddell | or you could upload it to your qtcreator PPA say | 12:02 |
| danimo | Riddell: I will do a qt-creator-stable and a qt-creator-nightly PPA for Creator | 12:02 |
| danimo | Riddell: btw: I was wondering if we should try to build the qt declarative UI branch | 12:02 |
| danimo | Riddell: (which includes QML) | 12:02 |
| Riddell | danimo: yes I think that would be most interesting to have | 12:04 |
| Riddell | danimo: quota activated | 12:05 |
| _StefanS_ | hello | 12:06 |
| danimo | Riddell: dput tells me the upload already happend, I'll try -f | 12:08 |
| Riddell | danimo: if you got an e-mail saying its rejected you need to upload again | 12:09 |
| Riddell | rm the .upload file to stop dput complaining | 12:09 |
| danimo | Riddell: -f might do as well :) | 12:09 |
| danimo | Riddell: seemed to have worked | 12:09 |
| * danimo goes for lunch | 12:09 | |
| _StefanS_ | uhm any idea why kde4.4rc1 on karmic wont let me save the date/time ? I'm not "allowed" it says !?! | 12:10 |
| _StefanS_ | even when I'm root.. pretty odd. | 12:10 |
| _StefanS_ | but then again thats maybe just unfinished software. | 12:10 |
| Riddell | it's probably a KDE vs polkit issue | 12:10 |
| _StefanS_ | can I disable polkit then ? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, I'm not allowed to in lucid either, that's worrying | 12:11 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm in the "admin" group, and still no luck. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | probably an upstream bug then | 12:11 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: uhm, would gnome's stuff interfer (I'm using nm-applet inplace of knetworkmanager) | 12:12 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: hi, are you working on Qt 4.6.1 ? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | that wouldn't matter | 12:13 |
| Riddell | Lex79: not currently | 12:13 |
| _StefanS_ | hmmm | 12:13 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: you could try playing with PolicyKit Authorisation in System Settings | 12:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I might give that a try | 12:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: thanks :) | 12:14 |
| Lex79 | ok, I will do Qt package today | 12:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: ahhh... the clock thing is in the policy, so I will experiment with that | 12:16 |
| Riddell | Lex79: great, danimo already uploaded them to his PPA ~daniel-molkentin | 12:16 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: I can't get it to work, the fonts module does seem to work, so I suspect upstream may just be bust | 12:17 |
| Lex79 | It's ftbs https://edge.launchpad.net/~daniel-molkentin/+archive/qt/+packages | 12:19 |
| Lex79 | btw I will look also at what debian has in their git | 12:20 |
| Riddell | hmm, he didn't update the patches | 12:20 |
| Lex79 | yes | 12:20 |
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| danimo | Riddell: I thought that was implicit, as well as the source | 12:54 |
| danimo | Riddell: btw: can we rename qt-x11_4.6.x to qt-everywhere-4.6.x? the packages are no longer plattfrom dependant | 12:56 |
| Riddell | danimo: no that would take us out of sync with Debian and it's not important enough to do that | 13:01 |
| Riddell | so poke fabo politely for that :) | 13:01 |
| danimo | Riddell: hehe :) | 13:03 |
| danimo | Riddell: I must have done sth wrong, it did put the diff in the source package, not generating an orig.tar.gz | 13:05 |
| Riddell | danimo: that means you didn't name the .orig correctly, maybe you used a dash instead of an underscore or maybe the version is different than what is in the changelog | 13:05 |
| Riddell | it'll give a warning if you run debuild -S about that | 13:06 |
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| danimo | Riddell: it did, yes | 13:06 |
| danimo | Riddell: according to the changelog, it's 4.6.1-1 | 13:10 |
| Riddell | then the .orig should be qt4-x11_4.6.1.orig.tar.gz | 13:10 |
| danimo | Riddell: does it need to have the correct prefix or will the prefix be ignored? | 13:11 |
| danimo | (the tar prefix dir I mean) | 13:11 |
| Riddell | danimo: the name of first level directory inside that tar doesn't matter | 13:11 |
| danimo | Riddell: ah, weird, the source directory has an underscore (qt-x11_4.6.1) | 13:12 |
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| danimo | Riddell: is there a policy about that? | 13:13 |
| Riddell | "don't change what upstream has" | 13:13 |
| danimo | Riddell: looks like upstream always had an inconsistancy, but the _ vs - is sth that dpkg-buildpackage can catch | 13:16 |
| danimo | Riddell: next attempt | 13:22 |
| Riddell | danimo: what are you changing? | 13:22 |
| danimo | Riddell: 4.6.0 -> 4.6.1 | 13:22 |
| danimo | Riddell: look like some patches do not apply any more | 13:23 |
| Riddell | right, they'll need to be updated or removes as appropriate | 13:24 |
| danimo | Riddell: I know, i | 13:24 |
| Lex79 | I'm doing | 13:24 |
| danimo | Riddell: I know, i'm on it | 13:24 |
| Lex79 | uhm :) | 13:24 |
| danimo | Lex79: ok, ok :) | 13:25 |
| danimo | Lex79: are you doing new packages anyway? | 13:26 |
| Lex79 | danimo: maybe you can start to contribute with some more easy package..... | 13:27 |
| Lex79 | danimo: no, I'm doing only Qt package in this moment | 13:27 |
| freinhard | qt 4.6.1 is on it's way? | 13:27 |
| danimo | freinhard: seems like it :) | 13:28 |
| danimo | Lex79: I'm not interested in Qt per se, but I need it for Creator 1.3.1 packages | 13:29 |
| Lex79 | I see | 13:29 |
| danimo | Lex79: and for the 1.3.80 (git master) nightly build that I am running | 13:29 |
| Riddell | Lex79: danimo works for Nokia | 13:30 |
| danimo | Lex79: and I've done that before, it's just a long time :) | 13:30 |
| danimo | it's just /been/ a long time | 13:30 |
| Lex79 | danimo: oh, sorry then :) | 13:31 |
| ghostcube | anyone for an short laugh ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0 rofl | 13:32 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: I thought he was a dev newbie :) hihih | 13:32 |
| danimo | Lex79: I really want to do this together with you guys though | 13:33 |
| danimo | Lex79: point is: no need to duplicate work, but there is a need for duplicated repos, since people using my repos usually just want creator and Qt updated, but not KDE, etc | 13:33 |
| danimo | Lex79: the qdoc3 patch can be dropped entirely btw | 13:37 |
| Lex79 | danimo: this? 19_install_qdoc3.diff | 13:38 |
| danimo | Lex79: yes, ossi and I added the missing install rule | 13:38 |
| danimo | wow, a hurd patch... | 13:39 |
| danimo | brave debian packages | 13:39 |
| danimo | Lex79: 81_hurd_clock_gettime.diff is upstream as well | 13:40 |
| Lex79 | ok for 81, but why should we dropped 19_install_qdoc3.diff ? | 13:41 |
| danimo | Lex79: because the install target for qdoc3 now exists | 13:41 |
| Lex79 | ok perfect | 13:42 |
| danimo | Lex79: see tools/qdoc3/qdoc3.pro | 13:42 |
| danimo | Lex79: it was my fault. when I made the original patch of making qdco3 public, I forgot the install rule :/ | 13:43 |
| Lex79 | :) | 13:43 |
| danimo | Lex79: why is there a kubuntu specific hack for library handling? why does it differ from debian? | 13:43 |
| danimo | Lex79: (kubuntu_04_qt_ia32_library_pach.patch) | 13:44 |
| Riddell | danimo: that's for running 32 bit binaries on 64 bit arches | 13:45 |
| danimo | Riddell: yeah, I wonder why debian doesn't support it | 13:46 |
| Riddell | danimo: well the only problem app is skype and debian probably doesn't care about proprietary software that much | 13:47 |
| Riddell | I don't know of any other case where a 32 bit app would be running on a 64 bit archa and loading plugins | 13:47 |
| danimo | Riddell: google earth? | 13:48 |
| Riddell | oh aye, maybe | 13:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: well, that probably doesn't permit repackaging | 13:49 |
| danimo | Riddell: and the native package ships its own Qt (probably also with patches) | 13:49 |
| Riddell | ah yes | 13:49 |
| Riddell | #kde-devel reminds me that it's RC 2 this week | 13:54 |
| ScottK | Riddell: RC2 before or after Qt 4.6.1? | 13:56 |
| Riddell | we should get 4.6.1 in first | 13:57 |
| Riddell | and given Lex79's usualy speed that shouldn't be a problem | 13:58 |
| Lex79 | no problem | 13:58 |
| freeflying | Riddell: is it fine to let ibus daemon run by default? user only need add kimpanel | 14:03 |
| Riddell | freeflying: is there a need for it? | 14:03 |
| freeflying | Riddell to make end uers can benefit from kimpnal easily | 14:04 |
| Riddell | freeflying: you would add a /etc/init script to make it start with upstart? | 14:05 |
| freeflying | Riddell: no, just a im-switch conf | 14:06 |
| freeflying | Riddell: as ibus is in CD | 14:06 |
| Riddell | freeflying: so it would start for everyone or just people with im-switch set to a relevant locale? | 14:07 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I hope there is a workaround to let run according to relevent locale | 14:08 |
| Riddell | freeflying: well fine with me anyway, but have you tested kimpanel recently, does it work? | 14:10 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I note that right clicking on line edits in Qt the menu shows IM as being set to XIM | 14:10 |
| Riddell | so I don't know if Qt needs something changed | 14:10 |
| freeflying | Riddell: yes, kimpanal itself works fine, its just a front end | 14:11 |
| freeflying | Riddell: you need ibus-qt4 | 14:11 |
| danimo | Lex79: Riddell: now I am curious: what is the phonon update stuff from sandsmark about? | 14:12 |
| Riddell | freeflying: we have that in our seeds although I wonder if language-support-zh should depend on it? | 14:12 |
| danimo | it looks more like it downgrades versions | 14:12 |
| Riddell | danimo: it should be an upgrade in versions | 14:13 |
| danimo | and it messes with WIN32 stuff | 14:13 |
| danimo | -set(PHONON_LIB_VERSION "${PHONON_LIB_MAJOR_VERSION}.4.0") | 14:13 |
| danimo | +set(PHONON_LIB_PATCH_VERSION "1") | 14:13 |
| danimo | +set(PHONON_LIB_VERSION "${PHONON_LIB_MAJOR_VERSION}.3.1") | 14:13 |
| danimo | doesn't looke like an upgrade to me | 14:13 |
| Riddell | mm, indeed | 14:14 |
| danimo | Riddell: I wonder if we need that patch anyway | 14:14 |
| danimo | Lex79: would you know? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | danimo: we do, KDE needs that new version of phonon | 14:14 |
| Lex79 | the patch is the diff between KDE phonon and Qt phonon, it needs for pulse audio btw | 14:15 |
| danimo | Lex79: including the version downgrade? interesting... | 14:15 |
| danimo | Lex79: did you upload 4.6.1 already? my upload was rejected for karmic an hour ago | 14:16 |
| danimo | or was that my attempt from before which failed? | 14:16 |
| Lex79 | nope, I'm refreshing the patches | 14:17 |
| danimo | Lex79: ah, ok | 14:17 |
| danimo | Lex79: which repo? | 14:17 |
| freeflying | Riddell: language-support-zh is a dummy package now | 14:17 |
| Lex79 | I will upload before to bzr https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ and after to archive | 14:18 |
| Riddell | freeflying: then language-support-input-zh-hans and equivalent for other relevant locales | 14:18 |
| freeflying | Riddell: that remind me if can we split language-support-input-xx into gnome/kde | 14:20 |
| Riddell | freeflying: is there a need? | 14:21 |
| danimo | Riddell: fwiw, I think if the debian folks have no holy rule against it, the kubuntu patch should as well go into debian. | 14:21 |
| * danimo will ask fabo once he's back | 14:21 | |
| freeflying | Riddell: talking with Arne | 14:21 |
| Riddell | danimo: yes I agree, I do forward our diff to them at the start of each cycle but maybe some infuence from yourself would help :) | 14:23 |
| danimo | Riddell: not sure if I have any authority there as a Nokia employee in that case | 14:24 |
| danimo | Riddell: but I can try some sweettalking :) | 14:24 |
| danimo | I mean 32 bit downward compat makes a lot of sense | 14:24 |
| freeflying | Riddell: well, but we still need enable kimpanel plasma-addon according to relevent locales, is there a means? | 14:25 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ubuntu is using language-select to enable ibus, maybe we can do it in language-selector-kde | 14:26 |
| Riddell | freeflying: language-select should set im-switch to turn on ibus surely? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | but then ideally kimpanel should be added to each users setup | 14:28 |
| Riddell | not sure the best way to do that but maybe the plasma scripting stuff would be it | 14:28 |
| freeflying | Riddell: its what have been done in ubuntu | 14:29 |
| freinhard | Riddell: moved that emacs file back to the docs, looks like advocations are gone each time i upload: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/ctemplate | 14:31 |
| Riddell | freinhard: I'll just upload it | 14:32 |
| freinhard | great, thx! | 14:32 |
| danimo | Riddell: why is Qt flagged as propritary license? | 14:42 |
| danimo | Riddell: in launchpad | 14:42 |
| Sput | O_o | 14:42 |
| * JontheEchidna has wondered that too | 14:42 | |
| danimo | the whole license info is out of date | 14:43 |
| danimo | Licensed under GPLv2, GPLv3, LGPLv2 or Propritary is correct | 14:43 |
| Riddell | it says that it was registered by the owner of the ~trolltech team who is Lars Knoll | 14:44 |
| Riddell | so could be his fault | 14:44 |
| danimo | upps :) | 14:44 |
| danimo | Riddell: can you add me to the team? I think pinging lars could prove difficult :) | 14:44 |
| danimo | Riddell: while we are on it, the team should be renamed | 14:45 |
| Riddell | danimo: I can't, only team owner of launchpad admins can do that | 14:46 |
| Lex79 | morning JontheEchidna :) | 14:46 |
| danimo | Riddell: maybe thiago can get a hand on him | 14:46 |
| JontheEchidna | good morning | 14:46 |
| Riddell | danimo: so I think ask a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and I can ping some relevant person again | 14:46 |
| Riddell | s/of/or/ | 14:46 |
| danimo | Riddell: ok | 14:48 |
| freeflying | kubuntu-members can upload packages relate to kubuntu? | 14:52 |
| Riddell | freeflying: no, that's kubuntu-dev | 14:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ok, thankx | 14:53 |
| freeflying | Riddell: workaround is: provide another conffile for im-switch in kdeplasma-addons, modify language-selector-kde to let it pick the new conffile | 15:07 |
| * Riddell does the empty new queue dance | 15:36 | |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: kubuntu-notification-helper got promoted to main and is ready for seeding | 15:37 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: great, I'll do that | 15:38 |
| Riddell | I still have a todo item to actually test and review it | 15:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Harald was saying something about getting kpackagekit to handle distribution upgrades. I'm a bit dubious about how that would work out. (e.g. supporting update-manager quirks, etc) | 15:41 |
| Riddell | mm, I think that needs to be distro specific | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | but I don't think it'd be too hard to make a python helper app to do what update-notifier-kde was doing | 15:42 |
| Riddell | ah, so kubuntu-notification-helper doesn't do distro upgrade notification? | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | kubuntu-notification-helper could for example invoke a python helper that runs MetaReleaseCore to check for updates, then run update-manager-kde | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that's basically the only way it's not complete compared to update-notifier-kde | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Any opinion on the "run a python helper to check for updates and if there are have k-n-h invoke update-manager-kde" approach? | 15:46 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: yeah that should work fine | 15:49 |
| JontheEchidna | cool, I'll look into it this week | 15:49 |
| Riddell | just strip out the relevant code from update-notifier-kde | 15:49 |
| Riddell | the other approach could be to strip out the distro upgrade notifier code from adept, but well.. | 15:50 |
| danimo | Riddell: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/97964 | 16:05 |
| Lex79 | My work on Qt is almost finished, I'm waiting new Phonon from sandsmark, he said is doing | 16:27 |
| ScottK | It would be nice if someone would try out the proposed Quassel SRU and comment in Bug #509287 how it does. | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 509287 in quassel "[Needs Update] Quassel (Ignorelist adding ctcp ignore)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509287 | 16:28 |
| neversfelde | ScottK: any special tests needed? "* VERSION PING" as ignore rule? | 16:41 |
| ScottK | neversfelde: Just that it works and there are no regressions. | 16:42 |
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| agateau | Riddell: now that Kopete 4.4 includes the necessary API bits, I turned MI support for Kopete into a standalone plugin: https://launchpad.net/kopete-message-indicator | 16:48 |
| danimo | Lex79: cool | 16:48 |
| agateau | and just released a tarball | 16:48 |
| Riddell | agateau: so we can scrap the patches in kdenetwork and use that instead? | 16:49 |
| agateau | Riddell: yes | 16:49 |
| Riddell | nice | 16:49 |
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| Quintasan | wtf is with my connection | 17:01 |
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| JontheEchidna | We got a +1 from kees on kcm-touchpad: bug 508824 | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 508824 in kcm-touchpad "[MIR] kcm-touchpad" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/508824 | 18:27 |
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| claydoh | http://www.osnews.com/story/22751/Distro_Here_There_But_Nary_a_Good_KDE_4_Distro_Anywhere_ | 19:08 |
| claydoh | no one ever spells out specifically what is "wrong", and then the bashing begins | 19:09 |
| * claydoh is so glad we don't have too many distro bashers in the Kubuntu world | 19:11 | |
| claydoh | me are far too nice and good-looking for that | 19:11 |
| Mamarok | claydoh: me? or rather we? | 19:19 |
| Mamarok | you just forgot to inclide a bunch of people there :) | 19:20 |
| claydoh | Mamarok: we of course, my vision is not holding up well due to the lack of eyglasses atm | 19:21 |
| Mamarok | oh, lost your spectacles? ;) | 19:21 |
| claydoh | broken | 19:21 |
| claydoh | should get a new set soon, a couple of weeks at worst | 19:22 |
| claydoh | and I will also get a second pair as a backup :) | 19:23 |
| Mamarok | a couple of weeks? Why does this take so long? | 19:24 |
| Mamarok | oh yes, a second pair is always a good idea | 19:24 |
| * Mamarok kept all her pairs since 20 years or so in case of emergency | 19:24 | |
| Mamarok | even if those are not exactly perfect anymore | 19:25 |
| claydoh | my work just added eyecare to my insurance, jut waiting for the card/information | 19:25 |
| claydoh | I can't afford the full exam fees and glasses till the end of the month so I am waiting | 19:26 |
| claydoh | I can't find my last pair of glasses, i usually save them | 19:27 |
| claydoh | my eyes aren't terrible, slight astigmatism | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | sweet, it works: kded(2571) DistUpgradeEvent::show: No upgrade available | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | just need to add command line args to the releasechecker python script and we'll be golden | 19:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: pushed initial dist-upgrade support to https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-notification-helper/trunk | 19:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll be back in a bit | 19:50 |
| ghostcube | hmmm ctcp ignore works :) | 20:10 |
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| Riddell | nixternal for the powah! | 21:16 |
| Lure | nixternal everywhere(tm) ;-) | 21:17 |
| Lure | nixternal: congrats! | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | what are we congrats'ing him for? | 21:17 |
| Riddell | his new found powahs | 21:18 |
| * Lure would be happy to have at least half the energy of nixternal ;-) | 21:18 | |
| Lure | JontheEchidna: DMB | 21:18 |
| JontheEchidna | oo, congrats nixternal | 21:18 |
| jjesse | hey nixternal i thought you weren't getting involved in ubuntu politics again :) | 21:27 |
| edgy | Hi, any one facing a problem with locales and utf8 and filenames appear as ??? or garbage? | 21:49 |
| edgy | I am using lucid | 21:50 |
| nixternal | thanks JontheEchidna | 23:13 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: Congratulations | 23:33 |
| nixternal | thanks neversfelde | 23:38 |
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