| kklimonda | hmm, why doesn't shift-alt-tab cycle windows in counter-clockwise direction? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | it does in kde | 00:01 |
| maxb | Has lucid started drawing a 1 pixel white line down both sides of the desktop background for anyone else? | 00:02 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: overlap shorcuts | 00:02 |
| BUGabundo | redifine it | 00:02 |
| yofel | maxb: sounds familiar but I don't remember who said it | 00:02 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo, I know I can change it - I'm asking why is it broken (for some time too) | 00:03 |
| BUGabundo | its in karmic too | 00:03 |
| kklimonda | ya | 00:03 |
| histo | ok asking for a password to connect to a windows workgroup that doesn't have one thats new. | 00:08 |
| histo | Anyone have any ideas. If i choose connect to server and choose windows share it connects and works fine. But if I just try to use the file browser it asks for a pwd for workgroup | 00:09 |
| histo | looks like a new bug | 00:10 |
| yofel | histo: *what* asks for a password? nautilus? | 00:11 |
| Aquiles | hi all | 00:11 |
| yofel | hi Aquiles | 00:12 |
| histo | yofel: some dialog box pops up asking for password and username for workgroup | 00:14 |
| Aquiles | who can help me with a problem? i have dell mini 10 and ubuntu does not recognize monitor | 00:14 |
| yofel | histo: are you using gnome/kde/xfce/lxde...? | 00:15 |
| histo | yofel: gnome | 00:15 |
| histo | yofel: i can post a screenshot somewhere if you want | 00:15 |
| yofel | histo: as I use kde I doubt that I'll be able to help you | 00:15 |
| histo | yofel: this is definately some type of bug. Do you experience the same behavior with kde when browsing a network? | 00:16 |
| yofel | histo: I don't have a /windows/ pc running right now, but I can open the samba share on my server fine in dolphing (no password) | 00:18 |
| yofel | *dolphin | 00:18 |
| yofel | Aquiles: what graphics card does the dell mini 10 have? | 00:19 |
| histo | yofel: so it must be a nautilus issue | 00:19 |
| histo | yofel: i believe via chipset | 00:19 |
| histo | yofel: for the dell mini | 00:19 |
| yofel | well, yeah, I have an integrated intel card too, but even that has a number (945GME) | 00:19 |
| DanaG | argh... xorg driver isn't enabling multi-finger support... even though the touchpad itself supports multi-finger input! | 00:20 |
| DanaG | oh, you can bet I'm going to file a bug on that. | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | 43.4% (1425.2) [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI> | 00:22 |
| yofel | argh, debugging bash scripts is annoying -.- | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | there I'm now stuck in 2.4GHz | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | with nill CPU usage | 00:22 |
| * setuid goes back to lilo... grub and grub2 are irreparably broke in lucid | 00:22 | |
| BUGabundo | yofel: did your system go mad too ? | 00:22 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: not yet | 00:22 |
| * DanaG has never had many issues with grub2. | 00:22 | |
| iflema | yofel mini10 Intel GMA 500 | 00:22 |
| yofel | urgh, poulsbo | 00:23 |
| setuid | DanaG, As long as you can deal with 80x25 consoles, it works great. It has about 5% of the features of grub-legacy, however. | 00:23 |
| yofel | Sarvatt: any idea what the state of the poulsbo driver is right now? | 00:23 |
| setuid | grub2 is _really_ stripped down | 00:23 |
| DanaG | I'm using radeon without KMS right now... but uvesafb works fine for me. | 00:23 |
| DanaG | try booting text mode and then manually loading uvesafb -- without xorg running. | 00:24 |
| setuid | I tried uvesafb as well as vesafb+fbcon, and neither worked | 00:24 |
| DanaG | weird... somehow, your config may be broken? | 00:24 |
| setuid | Right now, I'm non-bootable, because removing grub toasted my system. I followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reverting%20to%20GRUB%20Legacy | 00:24 |
| setuid | But I don't think anyone actually tested them, they leave you with an unbootable system | 00:24 |
| histo | setuid: are you trying to get frame buffer working | 00:30 |
| histo | ? | 00:30 |
| setuid | histo, Right now, I'm trying to get my system back to booting... removing grub2 and replacing it with grub-legacy, results in a non-booting system. Something is horribly broken in both of these packages. | 00:35 |
| setuid | histo, I know fb works fine with grub, I just can't seem to get grub2 to get its grimy hands off of my system. | 00:37 |
| DanaG | did you sudo grub, root (hd0,6), setup (hd0) ? | 00:37 |
| DanaG | or the similar numbers. commas outside parentheses are newlines. | 00:38 |
| setuid | DanaG, Plenty of times, with the right partitions in there | 00:38 |
| setuid | I think the problem is that removing grub2, removes the .mod files that grub needs to function, so when you're at the "grub rescue>" prompt, nothing works, because there are no modules. | 00:38 |
| setuid | But I don't recall grub (legacy) using modules | 00:39 |
| Aquiles | intel graphics 1915 gm | 00:39 |
| setuid | I'm still trying to figure out what changed in lucid to make it so painfully slow at everything | 00:40 |
| setuid | What's the command to get extended info on a package _not_ installed on the system? I thought it was 'apt-get info ..' | 00:43 |
| setuid | apt-cache showpkg... n/m ;) | 00:44 |
| bjsnider | kov has created a firefox extension that plays flash videos as if they were html 5 video tags, so the underlying gstreamer player is used instead of the flash plugin | 01:42 |
| DanaG | isoinfo: Short read on old image | 01:42 |
| bjsnider | actually it's for ephipany and not firefox | 01:43 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/415103 | 01:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 415103 in usb-creator "Not able to create a bootable USB key using Ubuntu 9.10" [Medium,Fix released] | 01:48 |
| DanaG | grr, still broken for me in lucid. | 01:48 |
| DanaG | An unhandled exception occurred: | 01:50 |
| DanaG | coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found | 01:50 |
| setuid | Why does removing plymouth want to remove about 800 packages? | 02:35 |
| setuid | http://pastebin.com/d3c5ecb2e | 02:37 |
| DanaG | hmm, gnome-shell still not installable. | 02:38 |
| RAOF | setuid: Because removing libplymouth2 will remove... | 02:39 |
| RAOF | Gah. | 02:39 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Yeah, that's passed my threshold; time to make it installable again. | 02:45 |
| undecim | Whenever I quit a KDE application, often, instead of exiting gracefully it segfaults. | 02:56 |
| setuid | wahoo! Solved the high-res console problem! | 02:57 |
| setuid | Can't have plymouth installed if you want to use vesafb from grub | 02:57 |
| setuid | root=/dev/mapper/sda2_crypt ro vga=37d video=vesafb:mode_option=1920x1200-32,scroll=ywrap,blank=1 elevator=noop noinotify noonotify pci=routeirq noatime norelatime | 02:57 |
| setuid | That worked | 02:57 |
| RAOF | And you can't remove libplymouth2, because important stuff is linked against it. | 02:58 |
| setuid | Apparently everything | 02:58 |
| setuid | It's like GNOME, it gets into everything | 02:59 |
| RAOF | Well, no. Just mountall, which is a dependency of upstart, without which your system is unbootable. | 02:59 |
| RAOF | You don't have KMS-capable hardware? | 02:59 |
| setuid | Sure do | 02:59 |
| RAOF | Why are you using vesafb, then? | 02:59 |
| setuid | Because there's no other way to get high-res consoles at boot time | 03:00 |
| RAOF | Well, apart from KMS. | 03:00 |
| * RAOF has perfectly happy native-res consoles from boot. | 03:00 | |
| setuid | So how do I set that up? | 03:00 |
| RAOF | Depends on your hardware; Intel should have it automatically enabled, I'm not sure if we've enabled it by default for radeon yet, and nvidia you'll need to use nouveau. | 03:01 |
| setuid | ah, no can do then... need to use nvidia's native drivers at boot time | 03:02 |
| setuid | I'll stick with vesafb, it's fast enough | 03:02 |
| RAOF | Right. You *don't* have KMS capable hardware. | 03:02 |
| RAOF | (Well, the binary blob doesn't (and can't, IIUC) implement KMS). | 03:02 |
| setuid | has bum been modified to work with the new upstart system? | 03:05 |
| RAOF | No idea. | 03:06 |
| crimsun | RAOF: I suppose sconklin is the man to poke about nouveau (after he arrives from holiday) | 03:11 |
| RAOF | Hah. | 03:12 |
| RAOF | Always it is with someone away ;) | 03:13 |
| * DanaG won't switch to KMS (currently on radeon UMS) until KMS gets power savings. | 03:14 | |
| DanaG | Right now radeon KMS sucks watts like.... an elephant? dang, that analogy doesn't work. | 03:14 |
| crimsun | all I know is that plymouth + NVidia hw + cryptsetup == fail | 03:15 |
| RAOF | I think plymouth + cryptsetup is currently fail. | 03:15 |
| RAOF | I don't think you need invoke nvidia hardware :) | 03:16 |
| crimsun | RAOF: quite probably, though I've only physically verified on NVidia hw | 03:16 |
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| RAOF | crimsun: Well, last time I booted it didn't work on my intel lappy either. | 03:17 |
| crimsun | probably ole #496765 | 03:17 |
| RAOF | Let's see if updating the kernel module will make nouveau's 3D unbreak. | 03:17 |
| setuid | There's some serious rpath discrepancies here, when something like ffmpeg, has a hard-dependency on a speech synthesis library | 03:18 |
| RAOF | That wouldn't be an rpath issue, surely? | 03:20 |
| setuid | Well, it's a matter of someone getting greedy with their dependency requirements at build and link time | 03:20 |
| setuid | Just sneezing all kinds of libs into your libpath and CFLAGS is no way to build software | 03:20 |
| RAOF | What speech synthesis library do you think ffmpeg has an unneeded dependency on? | 03:21 |
| setuid | I didn't check, but removing espeak and festival wanted to pull out ffmpeg, which then wanted to pull out xine, vlc, and others... and it chained from there. | 03:22 |
| bjsnider | espeak is part of ubuntu-desktop | 03:23 |
| setuid | bjsnider, Not very useful though, I yanked it. | 03:24 |
| setuid | It's still too choppy and mechanical | 03:24 |
| RAOF | You've got a misunderstanding of the Debian package management system; ffmpeg depends on neither espeak nor festival. | 03:24 |
| RAOF | You're running lucid? | 03:25 |
| setuid | RAOF, yes | 03:25 |
| setuid | RAOF, Looks like libgsm1 was the culpret | 03:25 |
| RAOF | And why were you removing that? | 03:27 |
| setuid | Because I was pulling out everything that matched 'speech' | 03:27 |
| bjsnider | that's not reckless or anything | 03:27 |
| setuid | hahahaha | 03:27 |
| bjsnider | you can't do things like that and expect no problems | 03:28 |
| setuid | I tend to run only what I want to run, I don't need breadcrumbs all over the place. | 03:28 |
| setuid | Of course, but I left the lib, just dumped the userland apps that used it | 03:28 |
| setuid | I've got a decade and a half of Linux behind me, I've earned the right to be reckless ;) | 03:28 |
| bjsnider | well, if you're ripping stuff out because you don't use it then you should start by rolling your own kernel | 03:29 |
| setuid | I already do that, in fact ;) (I did write the second kernel HOWTO) | 03:30 |
| setuid | Been building thousands of kernels for years | 03:30 |
| setuid | I've always despised the way distros build everything possible into the kernel namespace... I understand why, but I don't need that on my machines. I know exactly what hardware they use, run and are capable of. | 03:31 |
| bjsnider | sounds to me like you've almost forked ubuntu here | 03:31 |
| setuid | or unforked it ;) | 03:32 |
| setuid | I come from a Debian background. I'm only using bleeding-edge Ubuntu because I need my sierra and nvidia drivers working properly | 03:32 |
| DanaG | argh, mainline kernel-ppa packages don't have any of the staging drivers enabled! | 03:33 |
| crimsun | I'm with Chris here; that clearly isn't an rpath issue. | 03:33 |
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| setuid | crimsun, Looking at the output of readelf -d on ffmpeg, I'd have to agree... but something down the chain is tying ffmpeg to libgsm1. Not important anymore... | 03:34 |
| RAOF | Well, yes. ffmpeg is going to depend on libgsm1, because it uses it to decode & encode gsm. | 03:35 |
| DanaG | I need samsung-laptop driver and rtl8169 driver. | 03:35 |
| DanaG | the former is only in 2.6.33... but not enabled in kernel-ppa. | 03:35 |
| setuid | RAOF, Not directly though, it seems | 03:36 |
| RAOF | It'll do it via libavcodec | 03:36 |
| setuid | 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libgsm.so.1] | 03:36 |
| setuid | Yep, indeed it does | 03:36 |
| bjsnider | looks like you'll have to keep espeak | 03:39 |
| RAOF | No; it's perfectly removable, it's an ubuntu-desktop Recommends. | 03:39 |
| setuid | the lib can stay, the userland can go | 03:43 |
| Hellow | There's an apparent... uh.. bug with the latest build of Compiz Fusion in the Lucid repos. | 03:56 |
| Hellow | I had fusion-icon set to autostart on starting of Gnome. I dist-upgraded, rebooted, started GNOME. Things seemed to be going fine until it got to the point of autoloading applications. Apparently fusion-icon was attempting to load CF, and it caused the entire screen to go black except for the cursor (the cursor was still visible and active). | 03:58 |
| Hellow | The only solution to getting GNOME to start was removing fusion-icon. | 03:58 |
| Hellow | Now, I was in GNOME, tried running compiz --replace, and it can't find a screen to work on. | 03:58 |
| Hellow | Odd. | 03:58 |
| RAOF | Sounds like it might be your graphics drivers, rather than compiz per-se. | 04:00 |
| Hellow | I'm using xcompmgr with perfect performance right now. | 04:00 |
| Hellow | I'm using the 195 drivers. | 04:01 |
| RAOF | Then you might still be running into the opengl problems. | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Also, wow. xcompmgr. Oldschool :) | 04:02 |
| Hellow | heh | 04:03 |
| RAOF | Why xcompmgr over metacity's compositor? | 04:03 |
| Hellow | I like to use Emerald sometimes. | 04:04 |
| Hellow | Hmm. | 04:04 |
| Hellow | collin@enterprise:~$ glxgears | 04:04 |
| Hellow | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual | 04:04 |
| RAOF | We have a winner :) | 04:05 |
| Hellow | Graphics drivers. Yay. | 04:05 |
| * setuid hugs his nvidia card | 04:06 | |
| setuid | 46944 frames in 5.0 seconds | 04:06 |
| setuid | 47097 frames in 5.0 seconds | 04:06 |
| Hellow | I have a nvidia card :P. | 04:07 |
| bjsnider | setuid, you have to admit that ati makes some awesome graphics drivers | 04:07 |
| DanaG | mmyeah, vnc + compiz == ouchies | 04:09 |
| DanaG | especially with a sucky realtek wifi card. | 04:09 |
| * setuid never drank from the compiz kool-aid | 04:12 | |
| RAOF | setuid: You're missing some useful window management. | 04:13 |
| DanaG | ironic: it's even WORSE with metacity. | 04:13 |
| setuid | RAOF, When it works with sawfish, I'll gladly jump. Or, when a window manager comes around that does what sawfish can do, and is compiz-capable, I'll jump. | 04:14 |
| setuid | Right now, xfce4 comes close, but still isn't matching it | 04:14 |
| DanaG | Why not just use compiz? | 04:15 |
| DanaG | argh, vnc disconnected and left my mouse button down. | 04:15 |
| setuid | And what would I use as my window manager? | 04:15 |
| RAOF | Compiz? | 04:15 |
| RAOF | It being a window manager and all. | 04:15 |
| setuid | hahaahah | 04:15 |
| setuid | no can do, it too, doesn't give me the flexibility and features sawfish provides... sure, there's eye-candy, but adding the code necessary to get it to behave like sawfish, is more work than I'm willing to put into it. | 04:16 |
| bjsnider | RAOF, which part of compiz qualifies as useful window management? | 04:16 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: scale, absolutely. | 04:16 |
| bjsnider | scale | 04:17 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: Also, live previews in switcher is pretty good. | 04:17 |
| bjsnider | i always get them mixed. what does scale do? | 04:17 |
| RAOF | You might know scale as Exposé | 04:17 |
| bjsnider | no, that doesn't help | 04:17 |
| RAOF | The one where you can see all your open windows, scaled down to fit into a grid-ish on the screen. | 04:18 |
| setuid | Sounds exactly like workspace switcher in GNOME to me | 04:18 |
| bjsnider | oh, that feature that gnome-shell does automatically in overview mode... | 04:18 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: Yes, that one. | 04:18 |
| bjsnider | compiz: bloated bling for its own sake | 04:19 |
| RAOF | Well, no. Really useful window management, with crazy bling because it's easy once you've got the framework. | 04:19 |
| DanaG | Compiz CAN be very useful, once you configure it correctly. | 04:19 |
| DanaG | The defaults are not ideal, though. | 04:20 |
| bjsnider | really useful, like seeing rain on your desktop, or fire or something? | 04:20 |
| DanaG | And it has some extra stuff for people who do want useless... like flames. Bleh. | 04:20 |
| DanaG | But no, I don't count those as useful. | 04:20 |
| DanaG | Lamp animation is a feel-good thing. | 04:20 |
| DanaG | Scale is massively useful. | 04:20 |
| DanaG | Cube is nice for peeking at other desktops. | 04:20 |
| DanaG | weird: http://pastebin.com/f70fd8dc6 | 04:21 |
| RAOF | As is expo, actually. | 04:21 |
| bjsnider | yeah but gnome-shell already does expo with one mouse-action and one shortcut key, not requiring both hands or anything complicated | 04:22 |
| RAOF | gnome-shell uses pretty much a subset of compiz's effects. Not that there's anything wrong with that; some of compiz's effects are really useful :) | 04:22 |
| DanaG | Gnome-shell also has no friggin' taskbar! | 04:22 |
| DanaG | That is inexcusable to me. | 04:22 |
| RAOF | Eh. | 04:22 |
| bjsnider | it isn't necessary | 04:22 |
| RAOF | I don't have a taskbar *now*. | 04:22 |
| RAOF | Scale is my taskbar! | 04:23 |
| DanaG | Gnome shell also won't even install. =þ | 04:23 |
| DanaG | That's pretty epic fail. | 04:23 |
| DanaG | =þ | 04:23 |
| RAOF | (Or it would be, if nouveau hadn't broken 3D) | 04:23 |
| RAOF | Yeah, it FTBFS; I'm investigating. | 04:24 |
| bjsnider | DanaG, good thing you aren't using an unstable distro, because htings like that tend to happen | 04:24 |
| DanaG | Well, it's not installable on karmic, either. | 04:24 |
| DanaG | and it's been like that for a couple of months. | 04:24 |
| bjsnider | how am i using it right now on karmic then? | 04:24 |
| RAOF | Really not installable on Karmic? I thought I'd installed it? | 04:24 |
| DanaG | hmm, I misremembered. | 04:24 |
| i_is_broke | hello all long time no see. | 04:24 |
| DanaG | =þ | 04:24 |
| i_is_broke | hows things going in the testing zone? | 04:25 |
| DanaG | Oh, and nvidia binary drivers that I like to gripe about: nvidia 96 ceased being capable of anything but segfaulting... about 2 years ago. =þ | 04:25 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, having a 96 card sucked | 04:25 |
| setuid | ugh, loading a webpage in a tab in epiphany clears the X clipboard | 04:26 |
| bjsnider | nvidia's CEO could care less | 04:26 |
| DanaG | s/could/couldn't/ | 04:26 |
| setuid | I don't even want to know how that bug slipped in | 04:26 |
| i_is_broke | what is the updated kernel for alpha2? | 04:29 |
| DanaG | ugh, stupid volume control.... lags behind the OSD for a full 2 seconds! | 04:34 |
| DanaG | Ridiculous! | 04:34 |
| DanaG | Okay, 1.5 seconds. | 04:35 |
| DanaG | still horrible. | 04:35 |
| DanaG | !find i915_drv_video.so | 04:40 |
| ubottu | Package/file i915_drv_video.so does not exist in lucid | 04:40 |
| DanaG | argh. | 04:41 |
| DanaG | can't use vaapi. | 04:41 |
| DanaG | stupid realtek wifi card... only gets 100 kilobytes per second. | 04:42 |
| r00t_ninja | Do the nvidia-173 drivers work with the version of xorg that is currently in ubuntu 10.04? | 07:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | morning | 08:54 |
| BUGabundo_remote | anything changed in SSL recently? | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo_remote | chromium is snapping like crazy in SSL pages | 11:44 |
| alkisg | I'm seeing some empty space in the notification area, and if I click on it I get some menus etc about the keyboard layout. | 12:26 |
| alkisg | Is that a new, indicator-applet based way to handle multiple keyboard layouts? | 12:27 |
| alkisg | And more importantly, is it supposed to be empty? :) | 12:27 |
| Salmon | anyone else have troubles with the nvidia-173 driver? | 12:32 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Salmon: purge anything you got from PPAs, and try again | 13:09 |
| Salmon | i did before i upgraded | 13:10 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no, purge ANY packages you have | 13:11 |
| BUGabundo_remote | seems its still higher then the archive | 13:12 |
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| Salmon | ive purged all nvidia binary driver related stuff if thats what you mean | 13:12 |
| Salmon | ill grab the error from my xorg log | 13:13 |
| Salmon | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! | 13:14 |
| Salmon | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. | 13:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Sarvatt: ping ^^^^^^^ | 13:15 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Salmon: try your luck in #ubuntu-x | 13:15 |
| Salmon | thats the wrong channel thogh isnt it? | 13:16 |
| yofel | that sounds like the dkms build failed and no module is there | 13:22 |
| yofel | Salmon: did you try to reinstall the driver? | 13:23 |
| Ng | has some epic policy decision happened about grub2? | 13:46 |
| Ng | for the last few days I've noticed apt has been suggesting I remove grub-pc and install grub | 13:47 |
| arand | Ng: is that not just renaming? | 13:48 |
| Ng | arand: apt-cache showing each and grepping for Version suggests not | 13:49 |
| arand | Ng: apparently not when I check, yea ignore my comment | 13:49 |
| arand | Ng: i've had nothing of the sort, I've heard something about weird python packages depanding on grub or something, so it might just be inconsistencies, are you using grub-legacy on the machine? | 13:51 |
| Ng | newp | 13:51 |
| Ng | it's python-vm-builder | 13:52 |
| Ng | Depends directly on grub for some reason | 13:52 |
| Ng | yay fix released an hour ago | 13:53 |
| * Ng shuts up ;) | 13:53 | |
| t0rc | Is Lucid going to have custom login screens? or are we still going to be stuck like in 9.10? | 14:28 |
| arand | t0rc: there is a blueprint, which hasn't been started on yet https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-gdm-custom-greeter-support | 14:28 |
| t0rc | arand, thanks | 14:31 |
| t0rc | arand, any suggestions helping to develop ubuntu? | 14:32 |
| arand | t0rc: I have no idea, I generally just test and bug-report. | 14:33 |
| arand | t0rc: If you want to start hacking on the gdm greeter, I don't think mr Ancell would stop you. | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | t0rc: ask in #ubuntu-dev and #ubuntu-motu | 14:37 |
| Pici | *devel | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | or go directly to upstream gnome | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Pici: == | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its an alias | 14:37 |
| Pici | BUGabundo_remote: I know it forwards | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo_remote | anyone else having nautilus close it self after moving files ? (ext4 2.6.32-10-generic) | 14:46 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo_remote, did you do chromium updates today? | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I do twice a day, yes | 14:56 |
| bjsnider | can you load http://espn.go.com | 14:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | oh snap | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | been like that since yesterday morning | 14:58 |
| bjsnider | then it isn't a bug here | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | specialy for several SSL sites | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | fta says WFH | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | so he aint fixing it | 14:58 |
| edgy | Hi, non-english filenames appear as ?????????? . It used to work before, any hint? | 15:19 |
| yofel | edgy: that sounds like utf-8 broken | 15:25 |
| yofel | what does 'echo $LC_ALL' give you on a terminal? | 15:25 |
| edgy | yofel: no value | 15:26 |
| yofel | and echo $LANG | 15:26 |
| edgy | yofel: C | 15:26 |
| yofel | ok, thats ascii english, so you're not using utf-8 | 15:27 |
| * yofel sighs | 15:27 | |
| yofel | iirc you're the 3rd person I hear that from... | 15:27 |
| edgy | yofel: may be the utf-8 config files is removed with an update or something? | 15:28 |
| edgy | yofel: how can I reinstall it? | 15:28 |
| yofel | could be, but I'm not sure. what does 'sudo locale-gen' do? | 15:28 |
| edgy | yofel: it generates the locales but how can I choose one or the other? | 15:29 |
| yofel | hm...... I really don't know much about locales, you could try something like 'export LANG=en_US.UTF-8' in a terminal, but that might only work for that terminal | 15:30 |
| yofel | did you check your language support settings? | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo_remote | pt_BR.UTF-8... done | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | pt_PT.UTF-8... done | 15:37 |
| edgy | yofel: I don't know where is that. I don't want to change the GUI language after all. | 15:45 |
| yofel | edgy: what desktop environment do you use? gnome/kde/xfce/...? | 15:45 |
| edgy | yofel: kde | 15:46 |
| yofel | edgy: also, did locale-gen say '... done' or '... up-to-date' ? | 15:46 |
| edgy | yofel: it says done even if I repeat it many times | 15:47 |
| yofel | hm, then I'm out of ideas, the language settings in kde are in systemsettings->regional&language | 15:47 |
| yofel | if you want to try that | 15:48 |
| edgy | yofel: yes that region&language is for changing the interface language which I don't want. any way thanks a lot for your tips | 15:48 |
| edgy | Does smplayer works for you? I am getting mplayer has finished unexpectedly | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo_remote | edgy: known | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I've reported it | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo_remote | it was closed upstream as a packing bug | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I should update LP bug | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo_remote | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=913573&aid=2909634&group_id=185512 | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo_remote | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smplayer/+bug/493188 | 16:05 |
| edgy | BUGabundo_remote: thanks for the clarification | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Error: Sourceforge bug 2909634 not found | 16:05 |
| hoopoo | Hi room | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 493188 in smplayer "[Lucid] MPlayer UNKNOWN-4.4.2" [Undecided,New] | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo_remote | hoopoo: you scared the bot :D | 16:09 |
| hoopoo | OH no:) | 16:10 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo_remote, why are you so remote? :/ | 16:20 |
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| BUGabundo_remote | kklimonda: at work, doing NX remote to home. so don't expect a quick reply | 16:27 |
| BUGabundo_remote | kklimonda: used to connect via wwebchat, but now its nicer | 16:28 |
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| kklimonda | what is ubuntu1 music store about? is there some document that explains it (how, where, what bands, for how much etc.) | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | not that I know of | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo_remote | anyone else having nautilus close it self after moving files ? (ext4 2.6.32-10-generic) | 17:28 |
| robin0800 | kklimonda: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-one-music-store-answers/ | 17:35 |
| kklimonda | thanks | 17:36 |
| kklimonda | not much | 17:37 |
| robin0800 | kklimonda: your right this is better http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/ubuntu-music-store-lucid.html | 17:40 |
| johanbr | Hmm... the splash doesn't work for me and I get this in syslog: "Jan 19 09:33:21 saturn init: plymouth main process (391) terminated with status 1" | 17:48 |
| johanbr | any idea what the problem could be? | 17:48 |
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| _stink_ | i'm trying to install openssh-server on lucid and getting a 404 from aptitude. any advice? | 17:50 |
| johanbr | run "aptitude update" | 17:51 |
| johanbr | if that doesn't work, your mirror is not working properly | 17:51 |
| _stink_ | thanks. i think i forgot the update. silly me :P | 17:52 |
| johanbr | for what it's worth, my splash problem seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/509328 | 17:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 509328 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "Lucid Alpha2: Plymouth does not work with the current nvidia driver" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
| genii | _stink_: I think it's just ssh now | 18:21 |
| _stink_ | genii: openssh-server seemed to work fine after apt-get update | 18:23 |
| genii | _stink_: Looking at packages.ubuntu.com it looks like openssh-server is still there, yes, and now meta-package is just ssh | 18:25 |
| _stink_ | gotcha | 18:28 |
| Lyaa | hya | 19:03 |
| Lyaa | is there a preferred way to influence on network module ordering while loadin in *initramfs* ? | 19:05 |
| Lyaa | (actually, I wanted to ask that in #ubuntu-boot - but the channel seems to be obsoleted) | 19:06 |
| genii | Lyaa: As I understand they are loaded in the order they are given in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules | 19:06 |
| Lyaa | genii: right - that should be the (documented elsewhere) behaviour.. but at least in Lucid that is not the case.. | 19:07 |
| Lyaa | i'm currently testing the "rootfs-on-iscsi" in Lucid and the second NIC (not connected to the iscsi target) gets loaded first and the iscsi-hook only probes on eth0.. | 19:09 |
| Lyaa | i've also tried to blacklist the other module with cmdline like: .. blacklist=r8169 .. | 19:10 |
| Lyaa | but that's not evaluated either.. | 19:11 |
| genii | Lyaa: / | 19:17 |
| genii | Bah | 19:17 |
| komputes | Does anyone here have openarena installed on 10.04? | 20:01 |
| kklimonda | is there some known problem with suspend/resume nvidia and artefacts wen compiz is enabled? | 20:05 |
| johanbr | kklimonda, I get that too | 20:06 |
| kklimonda | good to know, I don't trust my nvidia anymore | 20:06 |
| johanbr | I suspect some suspend quirk was lost in the move from HAL to pm-utils | 20:07 |
| acicula | how is lucid, saw it was already onto the second alpha | 20:07 |
| acicula | i tried to get it to run under Virtual PC but that didnt go very well(due to virtual pc though) | 20:08 |
| kklimonda | acicula, well - works fine for me | 20:08 |
| kklimonda | there is nothing worth updating for though | 20:08 |
| acicula | heh i wont try then | 20:09 |
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| edgy | Hi, is the fix to bug #504198 committed? | 21:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 504198 in eglibc "locale support broken on upgrade to latest eglibc" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504198 | 21:19 |
| edgy | I don't even have a package eglibc! | 21:19 |
| RAOF | edgy: Yes you do; it builds libc6, which is linked to practically everything on your system. | 21:24 |
| edgy | RAOF: but my libc6 version is 2.11.1-0ubuntu1 and they are talking about eglibc - 2.11~20100104-0ubuntu, how can I tell whether the fix committed or not? | 21:26 |
| RAOF | “aptitude changelog libc6” will grab the changelog of your libc6 package; that will tell you that you've got the fix. | 21:27 |
| edgy | RAOF: thanks for this nice tip. It seems it's committed already but I wonder why am I facing the same problem! | 21:30 |
| edgy | RAOF: when I type in my local language I got ????, do you know any hint? | 21:33 |
| RAOF | edgy: Do you have the same symptoms of that bug? | 21:34 |
| edgy | RAOF: my locale support is also broken but not getting the exact error that bug have | 21:34 |
| RAOF | So it's probably a differet problem. | 21:35 |
| edgy | RAOF: do you know how can I change my default locale? better from GUI | 21:37 |
| RAOF | System->Administration->Language Support should do it. | 21:39 |
| edgy | RAOF: I am using kubuntu and don't have these menus | 21:43 |
| RAOF | Ah. Well, there's likely to be something similar for kubuntu, but I'm not familiar enough. | 21:44 |
| RAOF | There is a #kubuntu+1 channel, I believe. You might have better luck there? | 21:47 |
| bjsnider | isn't it called kubuntu-devel? | 21:47 |
| yofel | RAOF: #kubuntu+1 forwards here as this is any_buntu+1 | 21:48 |
| edgy | I didn't know there is a channel for kubuntu+1 but it seems bjsnider and yofel are right | 21:48 |
| bjsnider | i'm always right, except when i'm wrong | 21:49 |
| yofel | edgy: kubuntu+1 sends you here, but the most knowlegeble people about kubuntu are indeed in #kubuntu-devel | 21:49 |
| yofel | bjsnider: lol | 21:49 |
| yofel | edgy: you should state that you're using lucid | 21:50 |
| yofel | (in #kubuntu-devel) | 21:50 |
| edgy | yofel: thanks for the hint | 21:50 |
| histo | Does anyone know if intel graphics has been updated in lucid? | 21:55 |
| histo | I'm having a hell of a time with karmic on a friends system with an intel gma 950 | 21:55 |
| yofel | !info xserver-xorg-video-intel | histo | 21:55 |
| histo | Flash skipping horribly | 21:55 |
| ubottu | histo: xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.9.1-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 581 kB, installed size 1460 kB (Only available for amd64 hurd-i386 i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 netbsd-i386 lpia) | 21:55 |
| RAOF | Yes, intel graphics have been updated; I don't know if that'll fix your problem. | 21:56 |
| histo | !info xserver-xorg-video-intel karmic | 21:56 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 585 kB, installed size 1448 kB (Only available for amd64 hurd-i386 i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 netbsd-i386 lpia) | 21:56 |
| arand | komputes: openarena runs fine (albeit very slowly (no surprise)) in my Lucid virtualbox. | 22:15 |
| komputes | arand: thanks for testing, may be my driver that makes it dark then | 22:15 |
| duffydack | running grub-install /dev/sda in my karmic installation after removing the lucid partition, its asking for --root-directory, is it /boot or / ? | 22:19 |
| arand | duffydack: normally / | 22:19 |
| duffydack | ta | 22:22 |
| arand | How very logical, I am able to run openarena (albeit slowly) but it refuses completely to enable desktop effects >_< | 22:25 |
| histo | arand: are you running openarena in software mode? | 22:27 |
| arand | Hmm, might be, I don't set anything in particular.. | 22:28 |
| arand | histo: hmm, where would I actually tell if it were? | 22:29 |
| Some_Person | When is lucid's freeze? | 22:33 |
| RAOF | In the topic :) | 22:33 |
| arand | !release | 22:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 22:33 |
| RAOF | Under “schedule” | 22:33 |
| duffydack | nice to see the `manually add partition in live installer` bug fixed in dailys | 22:34 |
| histo | arand: run glxinfo | grep render in terminal | 22:35 |
| histo | arand: see if direct rendering is enabled | 22:35 |
| histo | RAOF: under schedule that link is outdated | 22:36 |
| histo | RAOF: neither of those links seem to show feature freeze | 22:37 |
| RAOF | histo: You're looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule?action=show&redirect=LucidLynxSchedule , right? I see FeatureFreeze at Feb 18th. | 22:39 |
| RAOF | histo: Also, “glxinfo | grep render” doesn't work as a 3D-is-working-herustic anymore; the mesa software renderer now supports direct rendering, so that check will always return true. | 22:39 |
| arand | histo: hmm, seems to be a few errors by the guest utils there.. "OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer" < Implies SW rendering? | 22:40 |
| Some_Person | What is ubuntu's policy concerning prerelease software making it into the release? | 22:40 |
| histo | arand: what type of renderer. | 22:41 |
| arand | Some_Person: I guess it all depends on importance/impact. | 22:42 |
| RAOF | arand: Yes, that means you're using mesa's software renderer. | 22:42 |
| RAOF | arand: That's why desktop-effects aren't starting; they explicitly test for the software renderer and bail if you're using it. | 22:43 |
| DanaG | interesting... this geforce6200 igp has the same window-resize/maximize lag that people complain about ATI having. | 22:44 |
| Some_Person | How (un)stable is lucid at this point? | 22:47 |
| arand | Hmm, then, if openarena can, why can't compiz run in software mode ;/ | 22:48 |
| RAOF | arand: Because it'll be (a) slow, and (b) I don't think GL_EXT_texture_from_pixmap works correctly with the software renderer. | 22:49 |
| arand | Heh, I'd take the sluggishness anyday if it allowed testing on VMs... | 22:53 |
| DanaG | yargh, http://live.gnome.org/Metacity/MpxHowto | 23:55 |
| DanaG | why has this stuff not been integrated upstream? | 23:55 |
| DanaG | It's been 2 years, roughly. | 23:55 |
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