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cooloneyogra: /win_xp/509:28
cooloneyogra: sorry. typo09:28
ogracooloney, intrestingly i think last time i tried suspend worked for me, it just didnt resume11:16
ograi.e. there is no way to wake up the board11:17
loolasac: The logic to disable CONFIG_NEON in the kernel because chromium will pick it up if present seems bogus to me (LP #507416)11:58
ubot4lool: Bug 507416 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/507416 is private11:58
ogralool, as i understood the plan is to switch it in the kernel at runtime/boottime11:59
loologra: Read the bug11:59
ograi'm subscribed to it12:00
ograhowever it doesnt match what was discussed on IRC12:00
ograas i understood cooloney does have a patch that can switch it dynamically12:00
loolYes, that's what he says in the bug12:01
ograright12:01
ograso apps can look at cpuinfo and switch accordingly12:01
loolIt's not cpuinfo but whatever12:01
ograif apps cant do it we'll have a -neon package of selected apps12:01
asaclool: yes, the way he refers to chromium is odd ;)12:11
asaci think thats none-sense12:11
asacchromium will use either no NEON12:11
asacor runtime detection ...12:11
asacbut upstream doesnt want to do that so the patch would need to come from us12:11
asacso plan is to make a special NEON build available so we can compare benchmark12:11
asacand if its worth it consider doing the real implementation12:12
cooloneyhi guys, am i wrong with the NEON issue?12:26
cooloneyi am quite confused indeed, heh12:26
ograthats the drugs :P12:30
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asacplars: so14:40
plarsasac: yes?14:40
asacplars: if you install dove alternative ... and use ssh to log in14:40
asacand start apps14:40
asacdo you still get the lock-up?14:40
asacnot sure if you already answered that14:41
plarsasac: haven't tried since last week, but I have no reason to suggest that it changed.  All I was doing was booting in single - works booting to full gui - doesn't14:41
asacplars: right. so what we should do in any case is figure if its really dependent for some comüponent14:42
plarsasac: with alternate, it recycles through the GDM constantly many times before locking up.  With live image, the login is bypassed and it goes right into a session, where it locks before coming up completely14:42
asacso imo logging in using ssh and seeing if X apps still work would be great to narrow down to X server/graphics driver14:42
dmartCould be worth trying to bring Xorg by hand14:42
asacplars: yes, i mean: try to not start X ... check if X apps alone over ssh trigger this. if not try to start X with stripped down features etc.14:43
asacuntil we know what is causing this.14:43
plarsasac: I'll install with latest alt and give it a try in a bit, have to run to a doctor appointment right now14:44
asacok thanks14:45
asacplars: the gdm restarts ... are those SIGILLs?14:45
dmartIf we get SIGILL, we at least have some chance to debug...14:46
plarsasac: didn't catch if they were or not, very possibly14:46
asacso gdm restarts ... gnome-panel restarts14:48
asacwhen does it lock-up completely?14:49
asacjust random i guess14:49
asacNCommander: can you kick off a gcc-4.4  package build on your dove? we might get something out of that from the testsuites run at the end of the build14:53
asacok out for some errand14:58
ogradmart, ping15:30
ogradmart, unping (solved the issue)15:51
dmartunpong15:51
ograheh15:51
GrueMasterNow that is a true sign of nerddom.16:10
armin76asac: btw, chromium works fine here with v8 disabled...18:14
armin76iow, it fails to run on armv5te only18:14
armin76with v8 enabled v8 fails to build, with it disabled it fails to run :D18:14
armin76however on armv7 works both ways18:15
armin76guess it fails on <armv6j18:15
asacarmin76: v8 disabled?19:06
asacso basically nothing?19:06
armin76asac: you know, the snapshot=false thing19:11
armin76javascript works anyway19:11
armin76it just doesn't on armv5te19:11
asackk19:20
asacsnapshot=true builds and just crashes?19:20
asacarmin76: ?19:20
armin76asac: on armv5te, snapshot=true fails to build, false fails to render any js page19:32
asacarmin76: fails to build or crashes during build? in mksnapshot?19:35
armin76crashes during build, mksnapshot19:37
armin76asac: http://dpaste.com/147596/19:50
asacarmin76: for us it crashed there with gcc 4.4 because of inlining bug19:52
asac-fno-tree-sink or -fstrict-aliasing worked19:52
asacbut i guess you face a different issue19:52
armin76asac: its gcc-4.3 and works on armv7, so...20:00
asacok20:00
NCommanderasac, re: building gcc-4.4 (sorry for the delay on this work item): my dove board keeps hanging or gcc segfaults20:06
armin76you broke it20:07
asacNCommander: while building or in the testsuite?20:14
NCommanderasac, while building20:15
NCommanderasac, I'm going to try one more trick up my shelve before giving up completely, but its not pormising20:17
* NCommander sighs20:17
* NCommander just hung in apt-get update20:18
asacNCommander: are you running lucid?20:20
NCommanderasac, yup20:20
asacNCommander: so trick didnt work?20:40
asacmaybe this gives more when run inside gdb session?20:41
asaci mean... just the gcc compile20:41
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plarswow, that's just crazy22:24
plarsI think it's bootchart that's killing it22:24

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