[00:00] <j-3-r-g_> Shirack have you try to install compiz-fusion
[00:00] <j-3-r-g_> ?
[00:00] <mAriachi> Shirack: do this
[00:00] <Shirack> mariachi: sorry will do
[00:00] <Topy44> hint to UNR users: the normal gnome "show desktop" icon switches to the launcher MUCH MUCH faster then the UNR "go home applet"
[00:00] <mAriachi> Shirack: sudo apt-get update
[00:00] <Topy44> (so does the old version of the go home applet, no idea why the new one takes so long)
[00:00] <Shirack> mariachi: did earlier
[00:00] <mAriachi> Shirack: then this sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:00] <Shirack> mariaci: didnt do second one
[00:01] <Topy44> also, deleting and recreating the panel from scratch seems to be the only way to get rid of that white dot. could not find out what it was
[00:01] <mAriachi> Shirack: hehe, then what you have done is just list the updates, not actualy download and install them :D
[00:01] <mAriachi> Shirack: sudo apt-get update just lists
[00:02] <mAriachi> Shirack: whilst sudo apt-get upgrade, downloads and installs
[00:02] <ring0> does gnome-terminal start the standard shell? f.e. if changed my default shell to fish, would gnome-terminal use fish too?
[00:02] <Shirack> mariachi: sorry got wrong way round had done upgrade. Trying it gives me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[00:03] <nick125> ring0: unless otherwise configured, it should.
[00:03] <mAriachi> did you update, then upgrade?
[00:03] <Topy44> stupid question, but how can i sudo start a gui app from the terminal without locking the terminal? "sudo appname&" doesnt show the gui
[00:03] <ksnp> does crontab without the --report option prevent sending of emails from the jobs to the root ?
[00:03] <bobbytek> how can I share a folder across a vpn?
[00:03] <mAriachi> Shirack: did you update, then upgrade?
[00:03] <Shirack> mariachi:yes
[00:03] <Johnny_425> Ubuntu won't remember my network's password
[00:04] <oistopthat> my question is " is xsplash a required application for ubuntu gnome" i get a INIT usplash stop displayed in a terminal screen on shut down
[00:04] <ring0> nick125, do i need to reboot, in order to make it work? i used 'chsh -s /usr/bin/fish' to change it, which works fine with tty1-6.
[00:04] <ksnp> i am trying to auto delete (not all but first N) email  to root sent by processes, any suggestions
[00:04] <mAriachi> Shirack: try opening update manager, refreshing and seeing if there's any update?
[00:04] <onetinsoldier> Topy44: gksu &
[00:04] <^kub^> Topy44 does putting  a space before the & work?
[00:04] <Shirack> mariachi: do you think i am missing software sources under "other software"?
[00:04] <Topy44> *caugh* yes... *caugh*
[00:04] <Topy44> silly me :)
[00:04] <nick125> ring0: I would try logging out and then logging back in. If that doesn't work, then you could try a reboot.
[00:05] <Fc-test> Protip guyrp use arch
[00:05] <mAriachi> Shirack: dont think so
[00:05] <Shirack> mariachi: system is up to date
[00:05] <mAriachi> Shirack: what OS you on?
[00:05] <Shirack> everything is ticked in software sources as well
[00:05] <ring0> nick125, thanks, totally forgot about trying to log out :)
[00:05] <Shirack> 9.10
[00:05] <ksnp> mAriachi, any suggestion on my lines above ?
[00:05] <Shirack> mariachi: thought they had sorted intel issues
[00:05] <mAriachi> Shirack: what OS are you using?
[00:06] <Shirack> mariachi: ubutu 9.10
[00:06] <mAriachi> Shirack: are you on a notebook or pc?
[00:07] <Shirack> mariachi: aha just checked hardware drivers and seems to be some drivers. Also should sort my wireless problem, which I havnt mentioned yet
[00:07] <nick> how do i get my webcam to work on ubuntu?
[00:07] <mAriachi> Shirack: haha, dont know what to say, do I or you rock?
[00:07] <xangua> !webcam
[00:07] <mAriachi> nick: instal cheese
[00:07] <mAriachi> nick: sudo apt-get install cheese
[00:07] <Shirack> mariachi: is it safe to remove drivers?
[00:07] <Guest43495> i installed cheese
[00:08] <mAriachi> Shirack: what drivers you want to remove?
[00:08] <mAriachi> internal speakers wont stop, when i plug in headphones, help?
[00:08] <Guest43495> i want it to work for this website called stickam.com
[00:08] <Guest43495> but when i go on it doesnt let me use my webcam
[00:08] <Shirack> mariachi: "ati/amd proprietry graphics fglrx" If i remember correctly it will give me the option to re-install the right one?
[00:08] <necroforest> Hello. I'm trying to kill pulseaudio. It will not die - when i kill it (using kill, kill -9, or pulseaudio --kill), it just gets started again immediately. I even tried running a killall -9 in an infinite while loop. Any ideas how I can put this thing out of its misery?
[00:09] <ksnp> how to remove email reporting for some lines of crontab only ?
[00:09] <blakkheim> necroforest: purge it, reboot
[00:09] <Shirack> mariachi: or do it automatically...
[00:09] <Guest43495> what about sudo apt-get install python-libmimic?
[00:09] <Shirack> mariachi: i might be remembering wrong
[00:09] <mAriachi> Shirack: dont actually know, you said your graphics card was intel?
[00:09] <nick125> ksnp: Do you know if it's going to stdout or stderr?
[00:09] <Guest43495> doesnt that help it because i installed it and it didnt do anything
[00:10] <Im666> there is a ubuntu french canal plz?
[00:10] <Shirack> mariachi: thought it was. I had problems with 9.04 on the same machine and I seem to remember it being intel
[00:10] <oistopthat> can anyone help me
[00:10] <xangua> !webcam | Guest43495
[00:10] <xangua> !ask | oistopthat
[00:10] <mAriachi> Shirack: why would it suggest ati proprietary? hmm, this is something to ponder on, no matter that i have 2 exams in like 7 hours
[00:11] <Iowan> !fr | Im666
[00:11] <Im666> there is a ubuntu french canal plz?
[00:11] <ksnp> nick125, its going to stdout
[00:11] <nick125> ksnp: If it's going to stdout, adding >/dev/null to the end of the command should do it. If it's going to stderr, I believe 2>/dev/null will do it.
[00:11] <Shirack> mariachi: thanks for help all the same. I'm sure I will figure it out eventually. It is only missing compiz effects thats annoying. My machine is functional nonetheless
[00:11] <Im666> tks
[00:11] <ksnp> its a script file that is in cron.hourly
[00:11] <mAriachi> Shirack: do you have installed any drivers under Hardware Drivers? if so, they should have like a green bulb left to them
[00:11] <m0ar> I accidently pressed some hotkeys, and now I'm having american keyboard setup. In windows it's alt+shift, what's up with ubuntu?
[00:11] <mAriachi> m0ar: go to preferences>keyboard>layout
[00:12] <mAriachi> m0ar: you can set everything from there
[00:12] <unop> ksnp, if you run a script from cron and it writes an error to STDOUT, you get an email with its contents
[00:12] <ksnp> nick125, and the crontab includes cron.hourly, i can't redirect 1 and 2 to /dev/null i think since this can't be done in crontab
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> is there a way to have compiz remember what i have open and all the windows locations, so it all there automatically when i log back in?
[00:12] <m0ar> mAriachi: Well, any idea of what hotkey I was hitting?
[00:12] <Shirack> mariachi: yes i just uninstalled "broadcom b43 wireless driver" and am now re-activating to re-install and see if i can get my wireless working.
[00:12] <unop> ksnp, sure you can redirect within your crontab
[00:12] <ksnp> nick125, unop, how do i prevent it from sending email ? there should be an option in crontab to stop it ?
[00:13] <nick125> ksnp: not selectively.
[00:13] <ksnp> unop, but the crontab only references cron.hourly, not individual scripts within the cron.hourly
[00:13] <mAriachi> m0ar: nope :( you can set everything, even the shortcut (key-combination) there
[00:13] <ksnp> nick125, unop, yes that's what i thought
[00:13] <unop> ksnp,   your_command >/dev/null 2>&1
[00:13] <m0ar> mAriachi: Ah, saw that now. Thank you!
[00:13] <unop> ksnp, so change the individual files?
[00:13] <ksnp> unop, how do i change the individual script files to do that ?
[00:13] <ksnp> to prevent them from giving any output ?
[00:13] <nick125> ksnp: You can also do MAILTO="" in each file, I believe. That might work.
[00:14] <unop> ksnp, wait first, can you show us this line that references cron.hourly
[00:14] <Shirack> mariachi: thanks for help. tring a re-boot
[00:14] <ksnp> nick125, ok, i'll try that i thought MAILTO was only for crontab, not individual files
[00:14] <mAriachi> m0ar: anytime dude! glad i could help!, to be of further help, add the Keyboard layout applet on your panel, it's like the windows language bar
[00:14] <m0ar> mAriachi: I'd rather die :)
[00:14] <mAriachi> Shirack: crossed fingers :D
[00:14] <m0ar> mAriachi:  :D
[00:14] <nick125> ksnp: I'm not sure if the environment from the script is "imported" into crontab.
[00:14] <mAriachi> m0ar: haha, i meant if you got to change layouts like me
[00:15] <m0ar> mAriachi: more like, purge the hotkeys for changing layout to infinity
[00:15] <mAriachi> m0ar: i'm from macedonia and sometimes i need the macedonian keyboard
[00:15] <m0ar> mAriachi: You are so unlucky :c
[00:15] <mAriachi> m0ar: and it's good to know in which layout im typing
[00:15] <unop> nick125, it's the otherway around - the environment of cron is inherited by the script
[00:15] <ksnp> unop, getting it
[00:15] <m0ar> mAriachi: Or well, it's problable my used to the windoose "OHMYGAWD RANDOM MESSAGE"-popups
[00:16] <mAriachi> m0ar: cause it can happen sometimes like these иф ај тајп енд сетера
[00:16] <ksnp> nick125, unop, alternatively is it possible to auto delete first N emails from the root, so I don't have to do it manually all the time ?
[00:16] <Wind0pain> does vmplayer run well in ubuntu?
[00:16] <m0ar> mAriachi: ;)
[00:16] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: try vlc, its good
[00:16] <unop> ksnp, it might be better to nip the bud with the cron issue, don't you think?
[00:17] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: sudo apt-get install vlc
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> is there a way to have compiz remember what i have open and all the windows locations, so they're all there automatically when i log back in?
[00:17] <mAriachi> m0ar: dont worry those things dont happen in ubuntu
[00:18] <Wind0pain> mAriachi: i want to convert my physical win 7 machine for use with it though.. will vlc read vmware player machines?
[00:18] <oistopthat> my question is " is xsplash a required application for ubuntu gnome" i get a INIT usplash stop displayed in a terminal screen on shut down
[00:19] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: it should, never tried it before though
[00:19] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: i meant, i use vlc all the time, but not with vmware, it should work though
[00:19] <Some_Person> Any way to get Windows Media Audio 9 to play?
[00:19] <mAriachi> Some_Person: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:20] <Some_Person> mAriachi: Yup
[00:20] <mAriachi> Some_Person: and it doesn;t work?
[00:20] <Wind0pain> mAriachi: ok thx, i might try that out
[00:20] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: np dude, anytime
[00:21] <Some_Person> mAriachi: Nope. Totem still complains that it can't find a decoder for Windows Media Audio 9
[00:21] <LogicFan> DRM'd windows media tracks won't play
[00:21] <Nafai> has anyone successfully installed the virtual box guest extensions in a Lucid guest on a Karmic host?  I'm trying to do some work on Lucid and I'm getting compile errors on the guest extensions
[00:21] <mAriachi> Some_person: it should work if you installed it
[00:21] <Wind0pain> i thought vlc was just for multimedia
[00:21] <^kub^> Wind0pain is referring to the vmware player i believe he wants to play a win7 vm on his linux box
[00:21] <Some_Person> LogicFan: It's not DRMed as far as I know
[00:21] <bobbytek> what's the fasted vnc client for ubuntu?
[00:21] <LogicFan> vlc can play many formats
[00:21] <Wind0pain> ^kub^: that's right
[00:22] <Some_Person> mAriachi: Well, I'm telling you, it isn't
[00:22] <ksnp> unop, <unop> ksnp, it might be better to nip the bud with the cron issue, don't you think?
[00:22] <mAriachi> Wind0pain: ooooh, that is a horse of a different color, but still try it
[00:22] <ksnp> unop, can you expand on that ?
[00:22] <dtrott> On ubuntu 9.10 I am trying to add an additional kernel parameter (reboot=bios) which file do I need to edit to add this?
[00:22] <LogicFan> Some_Person, did you try VLC?
[00:22] <rohananil> hello all
[00:22] <mAriachi> Some_Person:  yep, try a different player
[00:22] <Some_Person> LogicFan: VLC does work, but I would prefer to get Totem working
[00:22] <ae86-drifter> anyone know where to get the ATI Catalyst 10.1 Beta download??
[00:22] <eeeekyellowsnow> where do i find the kind of wifi device i have in my laptop??
[00:23] <Some_Person> mAriachi: ^
[00:23] <mAriachi> rohananil: just state your issue
[00:23] <LogicFan> Some_Person, is it audio or video?
[00:23] <mAriachi> Some_Person: welp, dont know if totem can handle WMA codecs
[00:23] <mAriachi> LogicFan: its a WMA forma, cant be anything else than audio :D
[00:23] <Some_Person> LogicFan: It's a video, but the video already plays. Totem claims that it can't find a Windows Media Audio 9 decoder though, so the audio won't play
[00:24] <Iowan> eeeekyellowsnow: lshw -C network might tell
[00:24] <rohananil> mAriachi: no issue , thanks :)
[00:24] <ksnp> nick125, unop, sorry for delay, i am multiprocessing, but am i am looking for all your suggestions and tyring out too
[00:24] <Some_Person> !wma
[00:24] <mAriachi> rohananil: oh, hello then :D
[00:24] <cdi> Can anyone tell me why a file I can physically see and move around under GUI will not show up at all in terminal say if I want to move it to one place or another it just says its non existent
[00:24] <nick> hello everyone
[00:25] <eeeekyellowsnow> thanks iowan :)
[00:25] <Guest96505> how do i i get my webcam to work for online web stickam
[00:25] <mAriachi> cdi: how do you access the file via a terminal?
[00:25] <rohananil> mAriachi: actually wanted to show this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ8ifKjCIw :) , face authentication karmic :)
[00:25] <^kub^> Wind0pain there is a 32bit and 64bit version of the vmware player on their site you need to register but its free
[00:25] <mAriachi> rohananil: dude, my connenction sucks to view youtube, thanks anyway
[00:25] <Guest96505> how do i get my webcam to work for online web stickam
[00:26] <Guest96505> ?
[00:26] <Guest96505> how do i get my webcam to work for online web stickam
[00:26] <cdi> I'm not accessing it I'm trying to move it from one place to another via terminal and I can ls and it will show me the file is there but won't in terminal and I'm trying to use scp to move the file to another server but it won't even let me move this file from folder to folder on the same computer just says no file or directory
[00:26] <hanasaki> what can be used to admin users/groups in ldap?
[00:26] <rohananil> Guest96505: connect cam and run dmesg
[00:26] <Wind0pain> ^kub^: okay.  i've just heard so many people talk about vBox that I was wondering if vmWarePlayer has issues on linux
[00:26] <Guest96505> dmesg?
[00:26] <rohananil> and paste it on pastebing
[00:26] <cdi> I'm not running it I guess I should say in any way*
[00:26] <rohananil> yes
[00:26] <mAriachi> Guest96505: dude repeating the question doesnt help :S
[00:27] <Guest96505> no like the cam is built into my laptop
[00:27] <cached> +i
[00:27] <mAriachi> cdi: you are not typing the filename correctly then
[00:27] <^kub^> Wind0pain tbh i run vbox and like it more but thats with a windows host i cant speak for the linux one
[00:27] <RiCON> hi
[00:27] <hsa2> hello everybody
[00:27] <cdi> its only three letters long. literally.
[00:27] <Guest96505> im trying to get my cam to work right now and its not
[00:27] <mAriachi> RiCON:hi, just state your issue
[00:27] <Guest96505> its built into my laptop
[00:28] <hsa2> i am trying to get postfix + dovecot running on ubuntu 9.10
[00:28] <LogicFan> Some_Person, do you have the w32codecs pkg installed?
[00:28] <RiCON> how do i tell ubuntu that i already have package x installed, even if i compiled it and installed it myself?
[00:28] <cached> I agree kub
[00:28] <Some_Person> LogicFan: I have w64codecs installed, and it didn't help
[00:28] <hsa2> is there any tutorial or something?
[00:28] <cached> Then your not without anything while you get it configured
[00:28] <rohananil> Guest96505: it could be the driver or the buggy software
[00:29] <Guest96505> buggy software?
[00:29] <rohananil> if you can provide the dmesg data
[00:29] <RiCON> for example, how do i tell ubuntu that i already have libavcodec-dev installed if i just installed ffmpeg?
[00:29] <rohananil> open terminal
[00:29] <mAriachi> RiCON: try configuring the Synaptic
[00:29] <Guest96505> ok
[00:29] <rohananil> connect the cam and run        dmesg > filename
[00:29] <eeeekyellowsnow> why can't i see the video driver on my laptop in Hardware Drivers? the window is empty
[00:29] <Guest96505> the camera is built into my camera
[00:29] <rohananil> and paste the file into pastebin
[00:29] <Guest96505> or into my laptop sorry
[00:30] <rohananil> yea thats ok
[00:30] <Wind0pain> ^kub^: i was thinking about using 7 as my host too since i use windows more often.
[00:30] <cached> are you in a vbox?
[00:30] <rohananil> dmesg provides the vendor id and product id
[00:30] <Guest96505> alright so what do i type into term?
[00:30] <Wind0pain> is there a 64-bit version of 9.10?
[00:30] <cached> yup
[00:30] <rohananil> dmesg
[00:30] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: well, you dont need a video drivers if it;s not there
[00:30] <Wind0pain> nm i found it
[00:30] <Guest96505> alright i typed it lots of stuff came up
[00:30] <Darkedge> I just restarted my computer, Now I don't get any bottom or top panel, I've tried lots of things, like rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel and i've also tried reinstalling gnome-panel, ALT+F2 doesn't work, I had to get a tty and export DISPLAY to get irssi open, Any ideas?
[00:30] <^kub^> Wind0pain thats what i do and vbox is nice coz you can do 3d acceleration
[00:30] <cached> I think it would be pointless to run it in a box tho . .
[00:31] <rohananil> dmesg > new
[00:31] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: type this in a terminal
[00:31] <nubuntu> i need help people
[00:31] <eeeekyellowsnow> thanks mariachi, but then how do i update a driver if one isn't working properly?
[00:31] <bastid_raZor> RiCON: from my understanding using 'check install' instead of 'make install' would do this.
[00:31] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: gnome-panel
[00:31] <rohananil> open new and paste content into dmesg
[00:31] <Guest96505> you type new after dmesg or do you type dmesg > new?
[00:31] <rohananil> darn it, i have to goto sleep now .
[00:31] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: what is your issue with the video?
[00:31] <rohananil> sorry paste the content into pastebin
[00:31] <Wind0pain> ^kub^: i'll give that a try.
[00:31] <RiCON> bastid_raZor: checkinstalled ffmpeg
[00:32] <Darkedge> mAriachi: WOW! That works, How do I get it to auto-open?
[00:32] <RiCON> bastid_raZor: and it included everything already
[00:32] <RiCON> i didn't use ubuntu's source, though
[00:32] <RiCON> used straight svn
[00:32] <cdi> mAriachi: the file also for some reason shows up as just text I'm not sure why as it's a video file
[00:32] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: basically, you just make a launcher (shortcut) on the desktop
[00:32] <Iowan> nubuntu: With...?
[00:32] <yacc> Wondering, anyone got an idea why karmic in qemu does busy waiting (basically it takes 100% cpu on host, despite no user space programs running inside the VM)
[00:33] <Darkedge> mAriachi: So I should just be able to restart and it'll all work?
[00:33] <eeeekyellowsnow> mAriachi: it isn't the video, it's the wireless, my wifi isn't as fast on ubuntu like it is on windows, only when im at home.
[00:33] <bastid_raZor> RiCON: add the executable to /usr/bin to be able to run it .. it that what you're trying to accomplish?
[00:33] <cdi> mAriachi: I mean this in terminal usually it will show up as a file of different color I recently permanently added subtitles to said video I don't know if this is relevant as to why ubuntu seems to see it differently
[00:33] <nubuntu> somebody speak español?
[00:33] <cached> How do you write scripts for linux? what are the extensions?
[00:33] <Guest96505> alright after dmesg > filename what do i type?!
[00:33] <wolter> !es | nubuntu
[00:33] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: and anytime your panels start to mess with you, you just open a terminal and time killall gnome-panel
[00:34] <mAriachi> and then double click on the shortcut
[00:34] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: did you make the shortcut?
[00:34] <RiCON> bastid_raZor: no, i'm trying to avoid ubuntu from installing old libs because i already have svn compiled ones
[00:34] <Darkedge> mAriachi: No...
[00:34] <Darkedge> mAriachi: I want gnome-panel to open when I login.
[00:34] <cached> its in a conf file somewhere
[00:34] <Guest96505> rohan?
[00:35] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: it will, this is a work-around if it starts to mes with you
[00:35] <^kub^> cached its my understanding that you just have to make the file executable with chmod 666, someone here may know better than me :)
[00:35] <rohananil> Guest96505: going to sleep , send me on my mail , talk to you later
[00:35] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: you are just imagining things, it is the same, it makes no sense to do it like that
[00:35] <Guest96505> whats your mail?
[00:35] <Guest96505> alright never mind ii got it
[00:35] <Guest96505> laterrr brooo
[00:35] <Guest96505> thaqnks
[00:36] <Guest96505> thanks*
[00:36] <eeeekyellowsnow> mAriachi: well it does, there is a certain delay when i open a webpage, reminds me of a 56k modem speed.
[00:36] <bobbytek> what's the best way to do remote desktop between 2 ubuntu machines?
[00:36] <Darkedge> ok thanks
[00:36] <mAriachi> DarkEdge: does it work?
[00:36] <Edgan> bobbytek: nomachine
[00:36] <cached> ^kub^ which virtual machine do you use?
[00:36] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: does your wireless work?
[00:36] <bobbytek> Edgan: what's that?
[00:36] <Darkedge> mAriachi: THe gnome-panel has come up, but I haven't tried restarting yet.
[00:36] <Darkedge> BRB
[00:36] <eeeekyellowsnow> it does, but not at home.
[00:37] <mAriachi> Darkedge: dont worry, it will
[00:37] <^kub^> cached i use virtualbox on a win7 host with ubuntu and bt4 guests
[00:37] <RiCON> bastid_raZor: for example, when installing mplayer deps, libavcodec et al show up as "to be installed", which is not needed, as I already have much newer versions
[00:37] <cached> Same here
[00:37] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: then it is not a driver issue if its slow
[00:37] <Guest96505> anybody else know who to tell me how to get my webcam to work for an online web called stickam.com?
[00:37] <eeeekyellowsnow> mAriachi: on my ubuntu DNS, should i have the ip of router in the list?
[00:37] <Edgan> bobbytek: It is a remote desktop technology. It is more efficient than vnc, and uses ssh to make authentication and your data secure.
[00:37] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu. Can anybody offer any insight on that?
[00:37] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow:  DNS doesnt have anything to do with IPs
[00:38] <cached> 64bit win7 hosting 32 bit OS also use xp
[00:38] <Guest96505> anybody else know who to tell me how to get my webcam to work for an online web called stickam.com
[00:38] <bastid_raZor> RiCON: that i do not know.
[00:38] <Guest96505> ?
[00:38] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: just leave it automatically
[00:38] <bobbytek> Edgan: would that be bad in a vpn situation?
[00:38] <eeeekyellowsnow> oki doo
[00:38] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: see if somebody is leeching your wireless, do you have it password protected?
[00:38] <cached> all the free PRO's from the Academic Alliance ^^
[00:38] <bobbytek> Edgan, wouldn't that be overkill in terms of the ssh?
[00:38] <Edgan> bobbytek: It will still be better than vnc with a vnc
[00:38] <eeeekyellowsnow> yes i do have it protected
[00:38] <RiCON> bastid_raZor: oh, thanks anyway
[00:38] <Edgan> bobbytek: I mean with a vpn
[00:39] <Guest96505> anybody else know who to tell me how to get my webcam to work for an online web called stickam.com??
[00:39] <bobbytek> cool, I'll check it out.
[00:39] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: no sense to be slower then: and please type the nickname of who you are reffering to first
[00:39] <bobbytek> Edgan, is it freely available?
[00:39] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: cheers :)
[00:39] <cached> However I cant figure out how to grant access to my videocard to run Highest graphics quality
[00:39] <Edgan> bobbytek: There is freenx, which in my experience works a little less than ok. Then there is nx from nomachine.com which is free as in beer, at least on the low end.
[00:39] <eeeekyellowsnow> mAriachi: oki doo, many thanks :) appreeshiyated
[00:39] <cached> or a portion of it anyways
[00:40] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:40] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: np dude, anytime
[00:40] <mAriachi> eeeekyellowsnow: cya
[00:40] <cached> I have 1 gig nvida geforce 9800m gts
[00:40] <hanasaki> anyone have good info or a url on configuring fine grained svn repository control with ldap?   web search ahs not turned up anything
[00:40] <bobbytek> Edgan, so is freenx still better than vnc?
[00:40] <Edgan> bobbytek: for speed and efficiency, yes
[00:40] <cached> ddr3
[00:40] <bobbytek> Edgan, nice thanks!
[00:40] <mAriachi> ?internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help????
[00:41] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help????!
[00:41] <cached> I also want to make a virtual server with Centos
[00:41] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:42] <bazhang> mAriachi, dont repeat so quickly
[00:42] <Edgan> mAriachi: Stop repeating yourself
[00:42] <nubuntu> hi
[00:42] <LogicFan> Some_Person, do you have a xine based player installed that you've tested the file with?
[00:43] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:43] <Some_Person> LogicFan: mplayer can play it. is that xine-based?
[00:43] <mAriachi> Edgan: do you have a solution, or just a suggestion?
[00:43] <bazhang> !repeat | mAriachi
[00:43] <hanasaki> anyone seen this in 9.10 and pulse? it's a new install and no audio...
[00:43] <hanasaki> Jan 18 23:23:55 usa pulseaudio[7146]: module-console-kit.c: GetSessionsForUnixUser() call failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program
[00:44] <Some_Person> !ops Helllifter
[00:44] <mAriachi> !ask | bazhang
[00:44] <Helllifter> Some_Person needs to chill out!
[00:44] <bazhang> Some_Person, what's up
[00:44] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:44] <hanasaki> how would you go about debugging no audio?  pulse shows this in the logs ktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program
[00:45] <Some_Person> Helllifter: I interpreted your PM as one of the now-common spam messages going around freenode
[00:45] <mAriachi> hanasaki: reinstall pulse, dr.gugl
[00:45] <bazhang> mAriachi, you've been asked numerous times to not repeat so quickly.
[00:45] <Helllifter> Some_Person  I am not sure what you are talking about
[00:45] <Helllifter> I don't PM
[00:45] <ae86-drifter> so nobody has used ATI catalyst 10.1 beta for linux??, according to this website http://www.guru3d.com/news.php?cat=7&perpage=#10681  there is a beta version that leaked with support for my card
[00:45] <mAriachi> bazhang: how slower do i need to be?
[00:45] <hanasaki> mAriachi:   already tried that.. which packages specifically?  FYI it's a new 9.10 64 bit install
[00:45] <jongberg1> hi, what messaging command in karmic allows you to talk to another computer in a local network just like what net send does for windows?
[00:45] <bazhang> mAriachi, more than 10 seconds
[00:46] <LogicFan> Some_Person, i'm not sure if mplayer is xine based.  but, you can install a xine based version of totem that may play your file, since you want to use totem
[00:46] <Some_Person> Helllifter: Your message ended with "join us if you hate <n-word>s"
[00:46] <mAriachi> bazhang: internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:46] <Hexane> o.o
[00:46] <Helllifter> I would never say that!
[00:46] <LogicFan> !spam
[00:46] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:46] <mAriachi> bazhang: i counted to 15 :D
[00:46] <LogicFan> Some_Person, sudo apt-get totem-xine
[00:46] <mAriachi> Helllifter: ya, you did
[00:46] <Helllifter> your just being ignorant
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> mAriachi:  ive seen that quite often in here.
[00:46] <Helllifter> I am not racist
[00:46] <Some_Person> LogicFan: Good idea. Thanks
[00:47] <Spreadsheet_> Hi, I have 10.04 and I changed the fonts to "best fit". Firefox still has the default fonts
[00:47] <Hexane> hoe can i hax ubuntu!?
[00:47] <mAriachi> Dr_Willis: any help then? xD
[00:47] <cdi> I know this isn't relevant to anyone elses problem but I thought this was an awesome alternative to scp. You can click on your desktop and hit ctrl+L and ssh://hostname@ipaddress and get a completely graphical way to send or receive files from your server
[00:47] <bazhang> Hexane, wrong channel
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> mAriachi:  ive never had the issue.. the foums may have some clues
[00:47] <Spreadsheet_> This has been since 9.04, maybe 8.10, I don't know
[00:47] <Hexane> i wanna haxx ubuntu!!!!!
[00:47] <bazhang> Hexane, please stop
[00:47] <Spreadsheet_> cdi: yeah there is
[00:47] <LogicFan> Some_Person, don't forget to install the xine plugins or check that you have them installed
[00:47]  * Dr_Willis hands Hexane  an axe
[00:47] <ae86-drifter> cdi, i think u mean sshfs
[00:47] <Hexane> :D
[00:47] <Hexane> awesome
[00:47] <mAriachi> bazhang: jeez dude, chill out
[00:47] <Spreadsheet_> Places > Connect to Server
[00:47]  * Hexane chips bazhang
[00:47] <Some_Person> LogicFan: ok
[00:47] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:47] <Hexane> chops*
[00:48] <Spreadsheet_> Any help?
[00:48] <usser> cdi, or with bonjour you can see all your ssh-enabled computers in places->network
[00:48] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:48] <Spreadsheet_> Can I get non-anti-aliased fonts in FF?
[00:48] <usser> ae86-drifter, nope its not sshfs its gnome's gvfs+scp
[00:48] <cdi> I'm not sure exactly what it's called but I read it in the forums you just hit ctrl+L at your desktop and I imagine this only works if the server is running ubuntu but I thought it was pretty sweet I'd never even heard of it before now
[00:49] <angelo> hi there, im having a problem when i open my NTFS partition, the desktop freezes a couple a minutes later, that never happend to me in ubuntu 9.04, does somebody know how to resolve this?
[00:49] <hanasaki> has anyone else had issues with slow download speeds on the ubuntu repositories?  I get about 10k/sec
[00:49] <cdi> is anyone else getting spammed right now?
[00:49] <Spreadsheet_> cdi: works for me, I do Ctrl-L and got the open location window
[00:49] <mAriachi> cdi: jep, by helllifter
[00:49] <bazhang> cdi, from whom
[00:49] <cdi> hellifter
[00:49] <Spreadsheet_> I don't think the scp server has to run ubuntu
[00:49] <ae86-drifter> usser, sshfs lets u browse remote PC's with whatever GUI as if it was part of your local filesystem
[00:50] <cdi> what a ridiculous thing to spam if I might add
[00:50] <Spreadsheet_> scp servers all run OpenSSH or some other implementation of ssh
[00:50] <usser> ae86-drifter, yea i know, im saying that ctrl+l thing doesnt need sshfs
[00:50] <cdi> I just thought it was cool I've been using scp for everything just cause the computer is headless and I just found a way to save me quite a bit of typing
[00:50] <ae86-drifter> whats the benefit of using GVFS+SCP over SSHFS?
[00:51] <angelo> FvCK Y0uuuuuuuuuu
[00:51] <ae86-drifter> !ban | angelo
[00:51] <usser> ae86-drifter, less headache gvfs is user mountable, easy to use, no need for CLI
[00:51] <mAriachi> !ban | Helllifter
[00:51] <hanasaki> ae86-drifter: how's the performance on sshfs
[00:52] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[00:53] <cdi> do you think it'd be better if I used something like sftp to do this cause it's a rather large file
[00:54] <Spreadsheet_> SCP and SFTP are the same
[00:54] <hanasaki> what are the pro/con of samba vs cifs vs nfs?  looking for a good remote syncable filesystem for windows and linux and mac .  perfer it also have built in encryption over the network w/o ssh tunneling
[00:55] <giiker> any gui app for checking S.M.A.R.T. info on a hard drive?
[00:55] <ae86-drifter> hanasaki, flawless for me, usser sshfs IS also user mountable, very easy to run the command in CLI, you can create a launcher for it if you prefer not to use CLI and it will just prompt for password and thats it, i use SSHFS over LAN with no lag at all and over WAN with minimal lag
[00:55] <sivel> did anyone else in here receive any "spammy" PM from Helllifter ?
[00:55] <Pound-user> It's not wIRC but it works. Anyone else seeing this?
[00:55] <cdi> mAriachi: I'd believe that's a hardware problem
[00:55] <hanasaki> ae86-drifter:  is there a sshfs for windows... client/server?
[00:56] <Iowan> <mAriachi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=900898
[00:56] <usser> ae86-drifter, didnt know that it was. i always used sudo mount -t sshfs
[00:56] <cdi> mAriachi: usually if you plug in 1/8 jack into any laptop even if its not headphones the sound will cut
[00:56] <ae86-drifter> hanasaki, ehh ... no.
[00:56] <ae86-drifter> usser, sshfs can be run in userspace
[00:56] <hanasaki> ae86-drifter:  ah... have some win uses too...
[00:56] <usser> ae86-drifter, cool
[00:56] <usser> hanasaki, samba=cifs
[00:57] <ae86-drifter> usser, as long as the user has permission to the mount point of course
[00:57] <cdi> in windows wouldn't you just use puTTy?
[00:57] <ksnp> anyone know how to auto delete first N mails from the root ?
[00:57] <usser> ae86-drifter, right
[00:57] <hanasaki> usser:  thanks.. does it have built in encryption? nfs doesn :(
[00:57] <usser> hanasaki, nope samba is unencrypted
[00:57] <ae86-drifter> sshfs uses encryption :D
[00:57] <usser> hanasaki, samba was never designed to be used across unsecure networks, and nfs too
[00:58] <ae86-drifter> use WINSCP i think if ur on windows
[00:58] <ae86-drifter> but i have never used it myself
[00:58] <hanasaki> ae86-drifter:  are you saying sshfs works on win?
[00:58] <hanasaki> usser:  ah.. so how to choose nfs vs samba?
[00:59] <usser> hanasaki, cooperating with windows clients much? then samba. actually even for *nix clients i'd still go with samba
[01:00] <hanasaki> usser:  thanks
[01:00] <phong_> questoin: how to boot ubuntu to dos mode ?/   my graphical is mess up..i want to modify a file
[01:00] <hanasaki> is there a good realtime virus checker for filesystem access?
[01:00] <phong_> help!
[01:00] <deluxe_247> no dos mode in ubuntu
[01:00] <usser> hanasaki, and it seems there's sshfs implementation for windows too http://dokan-dev.net/en/download/
[01:00] <mAriachi> internal speakers continue playing when i plug headphones, any help?
[01:00] <phong_> i meant a black screen mode
[01:00] <Wind0pain> probably can't run a 64bit VM on a 32bit machine, eh?
[01:00] <deluxe_247> i think you mean run level
[01:00] <hanasaki> phong_:  ctrl alt f1
[01:01] <phong_> at the start
[01:01] <bastid_raZor> !info clamav
[01:01] <xaashi> hi i wondered if some one could help me. I'd like to have my  script to create a set of virtual interfaces before /etc/init.d/networking is run. could some one please point me in the right direction, thanks
[01:01] <Guest28712> hello, trying to get my wifi working on my other laptop, karmic, i dont have any network device except the wifi (no ethernet port). i have a windows driver, but i dont know what to do to get it working
[01:01] <deluxe_247> why do you need to boot to the command line?
[01:01] <phong_> because i can't see the screen
[01:01] <DeSalvionjr> Watch out for the moose.
[01:01] <quietone> How do I find and install drivers for ATI card [Radeon X1550 Series RV505]?
[01:01] <phong_> i modify a file to work with my touch screen
[01:01] <deluxe_247> so do as hanasaki suggested
[01:01] <Topy44> how can i see which repository apt would download a package from?
[01:01] <phong_> i need to put maxresolution in my file
[01:01] <mAriachi> GUest28712: have you tried the Hardware Drivers option?
[01:02] <Guest28712> nothing listed
[01:02] <mAriachi> quietone: have you tried the Hardware Driver option?
[01:02] <phong_> help man
[01:02] <phong_> can i boot at initial to not go to ubuntu window?
[01:02] <quietone> mAriachi: What is that? Where do I find it?
[01:03] <phong_> i need to get in text screen to do some modification of file
[01:03] <mAriachi> quietone: under places:>System>Hardware Drivers
[01:03] <bastid_raZor> ddredrdrttr'
[01:03] <Hexane> :(
[01:03] <phong_> is the akey combination for ubuntu to boot to text prompt only?
[01:03] <adalal> how do you convert m4b to mp3 using ffmpeg?
[01:04] <deluxe_247> have you tried getting to the command line at boot by pressing ctrl alt fn where n is the cli you want to get to
[01:04] <jack5463> does emac work with ubuntu?
[01:04] <xaashi> jack5463: emacs? yes
[01:05] <hanasaki> what is a good tool for doing user admin id/pass email accounts etc in ldap for linux?
[01:05] <quietone> mAriachi: nothing is listed
[01:05] <jack5463> can you combine that with google translator?
[01:05] <deluxe_247> phong even if you messed up your xorg.conf as long as your computer didn't hard lock you should be able to get to the terminal make changes to your xorg.conf and at that point restart gdm once you have everything set up
[01:06] <Royall> anyone recognize this theme: http://img251.yfrog.com/img251/5849/mydesktopbydanrabbit.png
[01:06] <xaashi> jack5463: if you can write lisp, you can do what ever you like
[01:07] <quietone> Guest28712: I've had success using ndiswrapper. there is a page for it in the community docs.
[01:08] <deluxe_247> Hey guys I need some help with a bug that has already been filed but the solutions have not worked for me. Basically when I start azureus up I get a notification stating that it is impossible to bind the local socket. because of this anytime I add a torrent to azureus it opens another instance of azureus so I literally have x amount of instances of azureus running. Has anybody found a viable solution for this other than switching to another
[01:08] <deluxe_247>  client. I hate java but love azureus so I'm not looking for an alternative
[01:09] <Guest28712> quietone, thank you
[01:12] <Edgan> deluxe_247: bug url?
[01:12] <deluxe_247> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056
[01:13] <Darkedge> I restarted my computer and for some reason gnome-panel isn't starting automaticly, If I do "gnome-panel" in the terminal it works, What should I do?
[01:13] <deluxe_247> what window manager or desktop environment are you running?
[01:14] <Edgan> deluxe_247: you sure it is the same bug?
[01:14] <phong_> okay, i just got a boot up screen...should i boot in the (recovery mode) ??
[01:14] <deluxe_247> only thing I've been able to find and its the exact message azureus spits out upon startup
[01:14] <Edgan> deluxe_247: which is?
[01:15] <unop> Darkedge, could it be because you've been playing about with the /usr/share/applications/gnome-panel.desktop file?
[01:15] <kri1987> darkedge, i think u could put gnome-panel into your .bashrc file
[01:15] <deluxe_247> its not supposed to be an azureus issue from what I understand it has to do with the jdk
[01:15] <kinja-sheep> deluxe_247: You might want to try #azureus -- I think Miro is similar to Vuze. Also, if this is irking you, you could use different clients. :\
[01:15] <kri1987> it happened to me once, and i ended up up reinstalling gnome-panel, but it's a common issue from my memory
[01:15] <Athenon> apt is keeping back bind and all things having to do with it.  anybody know why?
[01:15] <brandon_> Hi, I have a very irritating dilemma
[01:15] <deluxe_247> "Warning: Impossible to bind to a local socket. Loading of torrents via command line parameter will fail until is fixed
[01:16] <unop> Athenon,   aptitude why-not bind
[01:16] <brandon_> There's a USB flash drive. that is now read-only. I need to make it NOT read only. any idea how I can fix this?
[01:16] <brandon_> I'm in linux hoping it'll fix the scenario
[01:16] <Athenon> unop:  Unable to find a reason to remove bind9.
[01:16] <kinja-sheep> kri1987: .bashrc is not the right place to place "startup" -- Every time you spawn a terminal, it'll "open" gnome-panel for no reasons.
[01:17] <kri1987> which one would it be kinja-sheep?
[01:17] <deluxe_247> kinja-sheep I didnt want to actually replace the client but if it comes down to it I just installed deluge to get an idea. I have miro installed but its too much for what I need. I want a bit torrent client that handles torrents not everything else as well. thats the whole point of me using azureus with its classic interface I've been using it for years
[01:17] <unop> kri1987, the gnome autostart thing
[01:17] <obiwan_> hey all :) please look, i'd like that upon booting and getting the select user screen, my user got selected by default as happens at jaunty, so i simply type my pass, without having to select me in the list. any clue?
[01:17] <kri1987> unop, which file does that refer to?
[01:18] <unop> Athenon,  try this then, it should give you a reason.   sudo aptitude install bind
[01:18] <GG19> anyone know rhythembox pretty good?
[01:18] <Darkedge> unop: Yeah, I added "showingnomeonly" if that changes anything.
[01:18] <unop> Darkedge, probably your problem then
[01:18] <kri1987>  $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS/autostart
[01:18] <unop> !startup
[01:18] <Athenon> unop:  Yep, that works...thanks
[01:18] <kinja-sheep> deluxe_247: I use transmission because it is minimal on resources and it get the job done. No need for uTorrent's alike design. :)
[01:19] <Kotan> Hey guys, anyone mind helping me get Netbook Remix to boot?
[01:19] <kri1987> i just found from the internet that  $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS/autostart is where you should place gnome-desktop
[01:19] <deluxe_247> i also have transmission and actually used it for a while I may return now that you mention it. and Azureus is a resource hog
[01:19] <ksnp> anyone know how to auto delete first N mails from the root ?
[01:20] <kinja-sheep> deluxe_247: http://tinyurl.com/yauun2z
[01:20] <GG19> I have a ton of duplicate songs in Rhythembox and I don't know how to view them all, I know in iTunes they had a section for duplicates but I don't know how to do something similar in Rhythembox.
[01:20] <unop> ksnp, is this still in regards to cron?
[01:21] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, my mouse seems to appear randomly even if i let it disappear into the corner while watching a movie. here's an image of it, it's on the right: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7130/screenshotxe.png I like smplayer but this is the only problem and it's such an annoyance it distracts me from watching a movie
[01:21] <Edgan> deluxe_247: How did you try to use the preferipv4 workaround?
[01:21] <Kotan> Anyone?
[01:22] <user123> how can I sync a pocket pc with evolution? is it possible? It has windows ce
[01:22] <Kotan> I've tried to boot up Netbook Remix on my 1005HA from a USB drive a few times. Used the usb creator on a W7 box.
[01:22] <ksnp> is there a way to prevent cron job from sending emails /
[01:22] <Kotan> Each time it stops midway and says it can't mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[01:22] <deluxe_247> i tried a fix but it was for ipv6 not 4
[01:22] <semitones> hello - Is there a flavor of Ubuntu that's modified to be great for audio-editing, deejaying, etc?
[01:23] <semitones> I remember there being one but I can't seem to find it
[01:23] <ksnp> i want to do this selectively for only some jobs
[01:23] <Edgan> deluxe_247: yeah, but what exactly did you do?
[01:23] <kinja-sheep> semitones: Ubuntu Studio.
[01:23] <semitones> thanks, looking it up
[01:23] <deluxe_247> that may be the issue but at this point after seeing the amount of resources azureus uses, thanks kinja-sheep, I'm just going to use transmission. Its lightweight and to the point which is how I like it
[01:23]  * Topy44 "fixes" UNR with a sledgehammer a bi
[01:23] <Topy44> t
[01:23] <deluxe_247> sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only\ =\ 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only\ =\ 0/' \
[01:23] <Kotan> The selfcheck says that everything is fine
[01:24] <deluxe_247> /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf && sudo invoke-rc.d procps restart
[01:24] <Topy44> *bang*
[01:24] <Edgan> deluxe_247: yeah, that will do nothing
[01:24] <blakkheim> deluxe_247: rtorrent is even more lightweight
[01:24] <Wind0pain> i'm trying to install guest additions for vbox in an ubuntu guest... i see VBoxLinuxAdditionsamd64.run... when i "run in terminal" a black screen flashes and that's it... any ideas how i can install it?
[01:24] <Kotan> Unfortunately, I've downloaded the iso image 3 times and gotten the same result.
[01:24] <Kotan> I can't boot up the live usb or install.
[01:24] <Edgan> deluxe_247: deluge is the closest I have seen to a azureus replacement
[01:24] <semitones> Would I be able to get support for Ubuntu Studio in this channel?
[01:24] <Topy44> can anyone else confirm that the "notices" of the unr launcher (like "X has been added to favourites") behave oddly?
[01:25] <Edgan> deluxe_247: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056#32  mentions -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
[01:25] <cached> kotan what kind of computer do you have?
[01:25] <deluxe_247> tried adding that line myself still a no go
[01:25] <Kotan> 1005HA, as I mentioned.
[01:25] <Edgan> deluxe_247: Which says prefer ipv4 over ipv6
[01:25] <deluxe_247> unless there was some java service that I forgot to restart
[01:26] <Edgan> deluxe_247: in this case java doesn't run as a service
[01:26] <Edgan> deluxe_247: It is just a runtime, somewhat like python
[01:26] <Kotan> When I try to boot anything off the USB drive, it ends with that error message about not being able to mount, and the correct usage and flags you can use with the mount command.
[01:26] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, my mouse seems to appear randomly even if i let it disappear into the corner while watching a movie. here's an image of it, it's on the right: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7130/screenshotxe.png I like smplayer but this is the only problem and it's such an annoyance it distracts me from watching a movie
[01:26] <bonfire89> hey, I was reducing a filesystem and ran into some problems... so, I ran e2fsck and now I am faced with this "Error reading block 1276051458 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>" what should I do?
[01:26] <Edgan> deluxe_247: You would probably want to add that to /usr/bin/azureus at the end to get it to be used by azureus.
[01:27] <hiexpo> good evening all
[01:27] <deluxe_247> cool i figured as much. thanks guys but bleach 254 is done downloading. will give that a shot though Edgan
[01:27] <Edgan> bonfire89: Sounds like e2fsck is in order. Doesn't sound like a big deal.
[01:27] <deluxe_247> later guys and thanks for the help
[01:27] <Edgan> bonfire89: of course, backups are always good
[01:27] <brandon_> There's a USB flash drive. that is now read-only. I need to make it NOT read only. any idea how I can fix this? trying to do this in linux
[01:28] <kri1987> mkanyicy, sorry, yes my problem was solved... and yes, i had to give the home/ folder x permission as you suggested. Thanks for that
[01:28] <user123> can I sync a pocket pc with ubuntu?
[01:28] <bonfire89> @Edgan So I just hit "y"    yeeeahh.. that is what I am working towards right now (backups)
[01:28] <Edgan> brandon_: mount /media/something -O remount
[01:28] <quietone> GG19: I just cleaned up several directories, including music, using FSLint and found it straightforward.
[01:28] <brandon_> edgan: happens no matter what I do
[01:28] <Kotan> Any idea what might cause this?
[01:28] <Kotan> It says that netbook remix has been tested on the 1005HA.
[01:28] <Edgan> brandon_: What is the filesystem on the flash drive?
[01:28] <brandon_> fat16
[01:29] <Kotan> I assume this means that it should be installing correctly, or at least booting off the USB.
[01:29] <inmanix> Hey everyone, sounds busy in here, so if anyone could help me out with a question regarding partitions then I would appreciate it
[01:29] <Edgan> brandon_: dmesg | tail -10  have anything to say about why it is read-only?
[01:29] <Edgan> inmanix: just ask
[01:29] <AliBaba> hello guys. where i can get driver for printer canon pixma ip 1880?
[01:29] <inmanix> Well I openned up a 10gb partition and installed a 9.10 dual boot
[01:29] <cached> manufacturers site
[01:29] <inmanix> my other partition is 240gb or windows xp
[01:30] <bonfire89> Edgan: So I just hit "y"    yeeeahh.. that is what I am working towards right now (backups) (don't use irc much, not sure how to respond back, tried a colon. heh)
[01:30] <brandon_> edgan: what exactly is that?
[01:30] <hiexpo> inmanixwhat do you need to know about partions
[01:30] <inmanix> now im wondering how to best manage my partitions for using both ubuntu and xp
[01:30] <sixtila> what command allows the difference in two files be compared?
[01:30] <faryshta> Can OOo read .dbf files?
[01:30] <inmanix> because im guessing ubuntu dont like to run much from the xp harddrive
[01:30] <Edgan> brandon_: dmesg  prints out kernel messages. Mostly hardware related stuff. | tail -10  says give me the last 10 lines
[01:30] <hiexpo> you mean you have a dual boot set up ?
[01:30] <Edgan> bonfire89: ok, hope it works out
[01:30] <inmanix> yes
[01:31] <bonfire89> Edgan: kk, thanks!
[01:31] <Edgan> inmanix: linux and windows can co-exist on the same hard drive just fine
[01:31] <inmanix> i read that people partition their system, 20 gb for xp, 10 gb for ubuntu, and the rest shared
[01:31] <hiexpo> you should have a boot grub with both systems on boot up
[01:31] <Kotan> Anyone?
[01:31] <cached> Can you use a fat32 extension to share files between the OS's?
[01:31] <inmanix> yes i do, ubuntu is running fine
[01:31] <Edgan> inmanix: Generally you want to have Windows as the first partition
[01:31] <brandon_> ok how do I paste this in without flooding?
[01:32] <hiexpo> and xp ?
[01:32] <Edgan> inmanix: and you want to install Windows first, then Linux
[01:32] <inmanix> yes i have
[01:32] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, my mouse seems to appear randomly even if i let it disappear into the corner while watching a movie. here's an image of it, it's on the right: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7130/screenshotxe.png I like smplayer but this is the only problem and it's such an annoyance it distracts me from watching a movie
[01:32] <Edgan> inmanix: you also want to do all partitioning with Linux beforehand.
[01:32] <IdleOne> !paste | brandon_
[01:32] <iflema> kotan yeah plenty with success.... just a min
[01:32] <Topy44> haha, whoops... i just purged gnome. bad idea. :)
[01:32] <brandon_> !paste
[01:32] <Kotan> It's a 2gb USB Flash Drive. Formatted to FAT. I used USB Creator on a W7 box to make the drive bootable for my 1005HA. I can get to the loader just fine, but I can't actually boot Ubuntu at all. I get an error about mounting, and it just stops.
[01:32] <cached> XP has to go 1st even with other windows OS
[01:32] <Topy44> "lets try that again"
[01:32] <brandon_> huh../
[01:32] <brandon_> ?
[01:32] <hiexpo> so both systems are installed?
[01:32] <inmanix> well, i installed xp, then partioned, then ubuntu
[01:32] <inmanix> is that awful? :D
[01:32] <brandon_> !paste | [ 2242.916806] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] 7782400 512-byte logical blocks: (3.98 GB/3.71 GiB)
[01:32] <brandon_> [ 2242.917316] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Write Protect is off
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2242.917318] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:33] <IdleOne> brandon_: ubottu told you where to paste. read what the bot said
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2242.917321] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Assuming drive cache: write through
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2242.919549] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Assuming drive cache: write through
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2242.919554]  sdh:
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2243.127813] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Write Protect is on
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2243.127816] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Mode Sense: 03 00 80 00
[01:33] <IdleOne> STOP
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2243.127818] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Assuming drive cache: write through
[01:33] <cached> kill it
[01:33] <hiexpo> ok than that should be fine
[01:33] <brandon_> [ 2243.127821] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdh] Attached SCSI removable disk
[01:33] <koshari> where is the sessions applet in 9.10?
[01:33] <Edgan> brandon_: pastebin
[01:33] <inmanix> im just wandering about file sharing between the OS's
[01:33] <faryshta> Can OOo read .dbf files?
[01:33] <inmanix> does it matter me using files from the windows partition?
[01:33] <iflema> kotan /dev/loop1 on /cow?
[01:33] <brandon_> sorry man
[01:33] <brandon_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7866fbb7
[01:33] <hiexpo> have you booted into both systems yet to make sure they are both ok ?
[01:33] <Kotan> Yes, iflema
[01:33] <inmanix> yes
[01:33] <Edgan> inmanix: linux can read/write fat16, fat32, and ntfs just fine
[01:34] <cached> So make a 40 gig part of fat32
[01:34] <Edgan> inmanix: So it is easy to pull from Windows to Linux, or put from Linux to Windows.
[01:34] <cached> and dl all your apps automatically there
[01:34] <cached> back it up with an external HD
[01:34] <brandon_> edgan: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7866fbb7
[01:34] <inmanix> so it will make no difference to me with a 240gb ntfs windows partition and a 10gb ubuntu partition
[01:34] <Edgan> inmanix: There have been ways to read ext2/ext3 from Windows, but now things are ext4 the answer is no, as far as I know.
[01:35] <inmanix> accessing my files from the win partition
[01:35] <brandon_> edgan: I also used this guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-iso-from-usb-flash-drive/ when all of a sudden it stopped working..
[01:35] <Edgan> brandon_: pastebin  the output of mount
[01:35] <cached> O yah, make the part read only ^^
[01:36] <AliBaba> cached : thank you. :)
[01:36] <cached> but shared
[01:36] <Kotan> It's a 2gb USB Flash Drive. Formatted to FAT. I used USB Creator on a W7 box to make the drive bootable for my 1005HA. I can get to the loader just fine, but I can't actually boot Ubuntu at all. I get an error about mounting, and it just stops. Cannot mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[01:36] <inmanix> im just noticing that despite installing the drivers, ubuntu seems to be running abit sluggish
[01:37] <inmanix> i wasnt expecting load times on openning folders/programs et
[01:37] <inmanix> c
[01:37] <inmanix> on a 2gb/quadcore rig
[01:37] <inmanix> :D
[01:37] <cached> you have the 64bit os?
[01:37] <inmanix> 32
[01:37] <Masahiro> hi there :)
[01:37] <cached> ..
[01:38] <Masahiro> i have a little question
[01:38] <brandon_> edgan: a bit of a newb...so i do what now?
[01:38] <cached> thats the prob
[01:38] <DeSalvionjr> ideas for memes?
[01:38] <Masahiro> does anyone know how i could kill a PHP process on terminal, when its name is "php -f script.php" ?
[01:38] <koshari> where is the "login window" in 9.10?
[01:38] <Edgan> brandon_: run the mount command in a terminal window, and put the output on pastebin
[01:38] <inmanix> it is? i thought 64 bit was anything over 2gb ram
[01:38] <iflema> Kotan Bug #455935
[01:38] <Edgan> 64-bit is for over 3.5gb
[01:38] <Kotan> Where do I look up that bug, iflema?
[01:38] <inmanix> well yeah, im at 2gb
[01:38] <brandon_> edgan: does the output come from the same command window?
[01:39] <Edgan> brandon_: let me show you an example
[01:39] <cached> It also supports faster processors
[01:39] <iflema> Kotan https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/455935
[01:39] <Kotan> Thanks
[01:39] <iflema> Kotan http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-zope-developers/2007-December/003845.html
[01:39] <Edgan> brandon_: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/me835472
[01:40] <brandon_> edgan: that's my post...
[01:40] <ganeshiva> could anyone suggest me a go Download Manager like IDM for ubuntu
[01:41] <ae86-drifter> okay, ubuntu has no GFX driver available for me, however there is a beta version apparantly available, how do i install it :S? see http://www.guru3d.com/news.php?cat=7&perpage=#10681
[01:41] <hiexpo> gwget
[01:41] <iflema> Kotan no not that one
[01:41] <koshari> how do you create a new gdm session in 9/10?
[01:41] <Kotan> ?
[01:41] <Edgan> brandon_: You shoul dhave something about the flash drive
[01:41] <phong_> anyone have a complete guide for evtouch to work on fujitsu u810
[01:42] <brandon_> edgan: Yes but I don't know how to get the output for you
[01:42] <brandon_> edgan: I can mount/unmount but how to get output?
[01:42] <hiexpo> at boot login look gdown
[01:42] <Edgan> brandon_:  just type the command  mount in a terminal window, no command arguments
[01:42] <inmanix> so i should potentially run the 64 bit ubuntu, regardless of my 2gb ram?
[01:43] <Edgan> inmanix: you could, I would, but it isn't that big of a deal
[01:43] <user123> how can I sync a pda?
[01:43] <Wind0pain> anyone know how i can determine if 3d acceleration is enabled in an ubuntu host in vBox?
[01:44] <Edgan> Wind0pain: glxinfo
[01:44] <cached> I think it is limited in the vbox
[01:44] <brandon_> !paste
[01:44] <cached> to 128
[01:44] <Rave1> Kotan have you considered trying Unetbootin to build your USB
[01:45] <Kotan> I haven't yet.
[01:45] <Kotan> I'm trying one more build with the built in app before doing so.
[01:45] <cached> but its in setting/display
[01:45] <cached> check box
[01:45] <Kotan> This time without any saved settings.
[01:45] <brandon_> edgan: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4ff1bc0e
[01:45] <iflema> Kotan how did you create the usb image.... using which application
[01:45] <ganeshiva> how to install jdownloader
[01:45] <Kotan> The included usb-creator.exe file on the disc image.
[01:46] <AlwaysFirst> hi i'm using Sabily, lovely
[01:46] <brandon_> edgan: there's several...look for the one that's 4GB
[01:46] <cached> its in system/administration
[01:46] <iflema> Kotan what system are you on now win/lin?
[01:46] <Edgan> brandon_: yeah, I see sdh
[01:46] <cached> USB STARTUP
[01:47] <Kotan> I run primarily on W7; I do not have a linux box set up, though I do have an Ubuntu Server VM up.
[01:47] <Kotan> I made it on the w7 box
[01:47] <Edgan> brandon_: I would try unmounting it, and running fsck.vfat against it
[01:47] <Kotan> I am also currently on the w7 box
[01:47] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:47] <brandon_> edgan: kk i'll try it
[01:47] <brandon_> edgan: except..how do  do that?
[01:48] <ganeshiva> sorry lost connection
[01:48] <ganeshiva> how to install jdownloader
[01:48] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:48] <adalal> anyone knwo how to convert m4b to mp3? i've been trying with ffmpeg, but I dont think i have the right encoder
[01:49] <iflema> Kotan some people with a similar problem say the issue is with current releases and they where able to get it working using the ubuntu startup creator using the Discard on shut-down option.... have you a live cd for that win7 machine?
[01:49] <brandon_> edgan: fsck.vfat what else?
[01:49] <hiexpo> ganeshiva there are many post on the net   here the best way i have found http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/02/jdownloader-ultimate-freepremium.html
[01:49] <Kotan> I don't have a live CD, though I could burn one off. I'm actually trying that option to build the live USB right now, and see how it works.
[01:50] <Edgan> brandon_: fsck.vfat /dev/sdh
[01:50] <JonMarkGo> I'm trying to mount a mac external hard drive on ubuntu. Its formatted as Mac OS Extended with Journaling but ubuntu isn't even finding it as a usb device ( I also tried it on an older mac I have and it didn't find it)
[01:50] <JonMarkGo> Anyone have any tips?
[01:50] <brandon_> edgan: ok..did it.
[01:51] <JonMarkGo> I have hfsplus, hfsprogs, and hfsutils
[01:51] <brandon_> edgan: still not working
[01:51] <j_ack> adalal: pacpl and lame
[01:52] <cached> format it ^^
[01:52] <JonMarkGo> It has music on it
[01:53] <Edgan> brandon_: Do you need the data on this flash drive, or could you just format it?
[01:53] <brandon_> edgan: I just want it blank
[01:53] <j_ack> adalal: with pacpl you can nearly everything convert , lame include the libs for mp3
[01:53] <ganeshiva> thank you hiexpo i am trying
[01:53] <Edgan> brandon_: so right click and format it
[01:53] <Awesome3000> JonMarkGo:  Wouldn't it attach to a /dev
[01:53] <adalal> j_ack: i installed lame...
[01:53] <brandon_> edgan: don't think I tried that already?
[01:53] <cached> Can mac os read fat32?
[01:53] <hiexpo> no prob
[01:54] <rweng> hi
[01:54] <Edgan> brandon_: Have a windows machine around?
[01:54] <brandon_> did a ton of tinkering on a windows machine, yes
[01:54] <cached> find the common file system and tranfer files to that
[01:54] <brandon_> what did you have in mind>?
[01:54] <brandon_> ??*
[01:54] <rweng> can anyone tell me why mercurial-server is not available throught apt-get anymore?
[01:54] <Edgan> brandon_: try formatting on windows
[01:54] <brandon_> edgan: did that too. no dice
[01:55] <Edgan> brandon_: There is no physical switch on it?
[01:55] <brandon_> edgan: none
[01:56] <Awesome3000> cached: see  http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread20264.html# concerning Mac fs
[01:56] <adalal> j_ack: i just installed pacpl and lame, and i'm using ffmpeg -i <input> -ac 2 -ar 44100 <output> , and wouldn't work
[01:57] <adalal> j_ack: keeps saying unsupported codec
[01:57] <AliBaba> cached: that driver (canon site) only for fedora and opensuse. can you help me where i can find driver printer canon pixma ip1880 for ubuntu?
[01:57] <adalal> for output
[01:57] <hsa2> i have deleted some files of a package
[01:57] <hsa2> how can i reinstall or remove it?
[01:58] <IdleOne> hsa2: sudo apt-get remove package
[01:58] <brandon_> edgan: so what do I do now?
[01:58] <Edgan> brandon_: brand of drive?
[01:59] <hsa2> Removing dovecot-postfix ...
[01:59] <hsa2> mv: cannot stat `/etc/dovecot/dovecot-postfix.conf': No such file or directory
[01:59] <hsa2> dpkg: error processing dovecot-postfix (--remove):
[01:59] <hsa2>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:59] <brandon_> edgan: tribeca
[01:59] <FloodBot1> hsa2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <hsa2> IdleOne, ?
[02:01] <tato42> ok it says the broadcom wireless is active but when i look at in the menu bat it says it's still disable
[02:01] <IdleOne> hsa2: you asked how to remove a package, replace package with the package name
[02:01] <tato42> oops menu bar
[02:01] <Awesome3000> brandon_: You could try a fedora driver it *might* work
[02:02] <hsa2> IdleOne, can you read my both messages? i said i deleted some files of it
[02:02] <brandon_> awesome3000: how would I go about doing that?
[02:02] <tato42> i'am using 9.10
[02:03] <sec_> howto install ubuntu on virtual pc?
[02:03] <tato42> how do i enable it
[02:03] <inmanix> where has g parted gone?
[02:03] <cached> create new .  .
[02:03] <Edgan> brandon_: http://download.cnet.com/OnBelay/3000-2094_4-10260671.html  Try this program in Windows.
[02:03] <brandon_> edgan: any luck?
[02:03] <Awesome3000> sec_: which  Virtual pc are you using
[02:03] <Edgan> brandon_: Apparently you can format a flash drive in a funny way that causes to be ro.
[02:03] <cached> in my case?
[02:03] <sec_> Awesome3000: virtual pc on windows xp
[02:04] <Awesome3000> brandon_: http://free.xiaoyenzi.com/tutorial/installing-canon-pixma-ip1880-in-ubuntu-linux/
[02:04] <brandon_> awesome3000: why would I need this..?
[02:04] <brandon_> awesome3000: Not talking about a printer guy
[02:04] <Wind0pain> damn.  i can't get 3d desktop effects enabled in ubuntu through vbox, even with 3d acceleration enabled and video memory cranked.  :(
[02:04] <brandon_> edgan: thanks I'll try it...
[02:04] <cached> same here Wind0
[02:05] <brandon_> edgan: have you used this before?
[02:05] <Edgan> brandon_: no, never had that problem
[02:05] <Wind0pain> cached: sucks; i only wanted to use it because of the awesome effects in the first place
[02:05] <Awesome3000> brandon_ Sorry connfusing people again
[02:06] <pitoow> how i put nodelay  in  pam_unix.so
[02:06] <pitoow> ?
[02:06] <cached> Wind0pain: I have learn linux for school :)
[02:06] <brandon_> edgan: so you've USED THIS PROGRAM before?
[02:06] <Awesome3000> AliBaba  http://free.xiaoyenzi.com/tutorial/installing-canon-pixma-ip1880-in-ubuntu-linux/
[02:06] <ejordan> alguem pode me tirar uma duvida sobre licença de distribuição do ubuntu
[02:07] <sec_> Awesome3000: any idea for me?
[02:07] <Topy44> is there a simple way to get back the "old" colored icons for the network manager etc? i dont like the gray singlecolor ones in karmic
[02:08] <Wind0pain> wonder if it'll work better w/ vmplayer
[02:08] <Topy44> (is it part of the themes?)
[02:08] <Awesome3000> sec_: Downloading a LiveCD is probaly the easist
[02:09] <sec_> Awesome3000: which one? i want install from iso
[02:09] <cached> EVERYONE should have a G Part live cd :)
[02:09] <cached> or something like it
[02:09] <rad_sci_guy> I like parted magic livecd.
[02:09] <hiexpo> right click on desktop / change desktop background/ theme / customize/ icons & change them to your pref
[02:10] <kevin1093> i am new to ubuntu and i have a question. i am trying to install it to a blank 30 gig maxtor hard drive and when i get to the partitioner in the installer nothining shows up. can any one please help me
[02:10] <ejordan> join ubuntu-br
[02:10] <ejordan> join #ubuntu-br
[02:10] <kevin1093> ok
[02:10] <Kotan> ....interesting.
[02:10] <jongberg1> hi, what messaging command in karmic allows you to talk to another computer in a local network just like what net send does for windows?
[02:10] <Kotan> Now I'm stuck with a blinking _.
[02:11] <Awesome3000> sec_ : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:12] <Awesome3000> kevin1093: If the drive is blank the you will need to make a partition
[02:12] <ljamisonii> hello all...can anyone tell me why my /etc/hosts folder is not shown??
[02:12] <AliBaba> where i can find driver printer canon ip1880 for ubuntu 9.10?
[02:12] <Awesome3000> ljamisonii  /etc/hosts is a text file
[02:12] <Kotan> Beautiful stuff here.
[02:13] <ljamisonii> Awesome3000: ah...that would explain it lol
[02:13] <hiexpo> lmao
[02:13] <kevin1093> so can anyone help me?
[02:13] <hiexpo> sure
[02:13] <Kotan> [ 3.208287] [<c0104007>] kernel_thread_helpter+0x7/x10
[02:13] <Awesome3000> jongberg1: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248672
[02:13] <hiexpo> whats wrong kevin
[02:13] <Kotan> Just an example of the beauty filling up my screen
[02:14] <Kotan> Sigh...
[02:14] <Kotan> It'd be nice if the built in app worked.
[02:14] <Kotan> Trying the other methods.
[02:15] <AliBaba> anyone...help me, please!
[02:15] <erisco> I keep facing tremendous lag every minute or so at quite regular intervals and I am apt to believe this is the wireless manager searching for new connections. How can I disable this if it is the cause?
[02:15] <blakkheim> !please | AliBaba
[02:15] <hiexpo> whats wrong alibaba
[02:15] <kevin1093> i am trying to install ubuntu onto a blank 30 gig maxtor hd and in the installer i get to the partioner and it tells me to select a partition, but there is nothing there to select
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> AliBaba:  check cups.org to see how well the printer is supported. and what drivers may be used for it
[02:16] <Awesome3000> kevin1093  You have to make a partition
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> kevin1093: this is a normal ide or sata hd? is it in a laptop or anything special?
[02:16] <kevin1093> i have tried several times
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> kevin1093:  from a terminal/console see if 'sudo fdisk -l' shows the drive
[02:16] <AliBaba> i don't know where i can find driver printer canon ip1880 for ubuntu 9.10
[02:16] <AliBaba> :'(
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> AliBaba:  http://www.cups.org would tell IF its supported at all.
[02:17] <AliBaba> Dr_Willis: thank you
[02:17] <kevin1093> it shows the drive
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> kevin1093:  i would partion it  with fdisk or cfdisk/gparted  then restart teh installer and see if it sees it then
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> AliBaba:  you may need to instgall the proper 'gutenprint' package - from what read at teh cups FAQ
[02:19] <hiexpo> canon printers go here  http://seilent.net/install-ip1800-ip1880-and-ip1900-driver-in-ubuntu-karmic/
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> there ya go.  Your google fu skill gains +1
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:20] <AliBaba> Dr_Willis: ok
[02:20] <hiexpo> lol
[02:20]  * Dr_Willis will never buy another canon printer again
[02:20] <AliBaba> hiexpo: thank you
[02:20] <hiexpo> no prob
[02:21] <Awesome3000> Dr_Willis: How do you say things inline like that
[02:21] <kevin1093> gparted is telling me i need root privilages, how do i get those?
[02:21] <hiexpo> remem eveyone google is your friend
[02:21] <jada> i need help installing adobe flash player
[02:21]  * Dr_Willis dose4nt know what Awesome3000  means...
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:21] <Dr_Willis>   /me dose4nt know what Awesome3000  means...
[02:21] <sporedi> i have a domain register with isp for www and mail now how do i use this to hostname (www.xxx.com and mail.xxx.com )
[02:21]  * Awesome3000 Is awesome
[02:21] <Awesome3000> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> jada:  i  normally install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package and it pulls in flash and other web related stuff you proberly want
[02:22] <Brandon_> edgan, awesome3000, the program you handed me didn't work
[02:22] <Brandon_> It says in windows that it's write protected
[02:22] <hiexpo> i think its like sudo apt-get install adobe
[02:22] <sporedi> i have to give hostname  (computername)www or mail right
[02:23] <regjava> which is faster in ubuntu , KDE or GNOME ?
[02:23] <regjava> I find my Gnome installation very slow
[02:23] <inmanix> if i just installed steam in wine
[02:23] <blakkheim> regjava: they are both bloated and slow
[02:23] <inmanix> where the hell did it install :D
[02:24] <regjava> then which one should i install
[02:24] <RandomUsr> hello, not able to connect smb shares on virtual machine. I can use the "connect to server" to view shares on the Vista host. Could someone look at my smb.conf if I put it on pastebin?
[02:24] <hiexpo> flashplayer go here  http://www.lehsys.com/2009/10/installing-adobe-flash-on-ubuntu-9-10-just-works/
[02:24] <blakkheim> regjava: openbox, fluxbox, awesome, dwm, xmonad are all good choices
[02:24] <Awesome3000> regjava  GNOME & KDE are similare  you can try xfce
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i install it from the repos with the proper command and it 'just works' for me
[02:25] <regjava> which one among this is the most similar to kde?
[02:25] <hiexpo> ya me to i just cant rem the command
[02:25] <hiexpo> lol
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  check the ip/network the virtual machine is on. Some are set up to keep the vm's on their own Subnet.
[02:25] <blakkheim> regjava: none of the ones i listed are like kde.
[02:25] <user123> hello, Anyone knows how to synchronize a pda with ubuntu? I need to keep my calendar on both my computer and my pocket pc
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  none of them :)
[02:25] <regjava> At least one with a start bar
[02:25] <blakkheim> regjava: there is no start bar in linux
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  most lf them use a start bar/button/bar
[02:25] <regjava> and one which i can have icons on desktop
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  try icewm
[02:25] <hiexpo> but the command only installs adobe 10 the other way installs 11
[02:25] <blakkheim> regjava: sounds like you want windows, dude
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  icons are not handled by the window manager.. but by support tools FOR the window maanger.
[02:26] <regjava> haha
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  theres numerous tools to add 'icons' to the desktopp
[02:26] <Awesome3000> regjava  xfce has the GNOME menus on a menu and open windows
[02:26] <Awesome3000> regjava: xfce does allow desktop icons
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  get some live cd's and try the diffrent wm's and desktops out
[02:26] <regjava> ok i will try xfce
[02:26] <blakkheim> regjava: xfce is barely less bloated than gnome/kde
[02:26] <noon> I'm receiving "too much work for irq17" errors after latest 9.10 upgrades (xubuntu) - exactly like the symptoms described in http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8617154
[02:27] <inmanix> guys i installed steam.msi with wine, where would the install file go
[02:27] <RandomUsr> Dr_Willis, it's Not. I can see the Linux Guest, but the problem is when I attempt to browse the Linux Machine
[02:27] <inmanix> which directory could i find the install
[02:27] <blakkheim> inmanix: /join #winehq
[02:27] <jada> thx for the help
[02:27] <noon> is anyone familiar with too much work for irq17? google produces many results but no answers
[02:27] <regjava> which desktop manager does xubuntu use, I have heard it is fast?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  i always share the users HOME on my linux box's and enter the full url to it in the file managers.. that seems to straighten things out.. or browse it by ip# not hostname
[02:27] <hiexpo> reboot and its down on the bottom in wine
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> regjava:  xuvuntu = xfce
[02:28] <regjava> nice, I will use it
[02:28] <noon> regjava, xfce, unless you mean file manager... thunar
[02:28] <regjava> thank you folks
[02:28] <blakkheim> regjava: it's not
[02:28] <regjava> whats not?
[02:28] <RandomUsr> Dr_Willis, could you look at my smb.conf? http://pastebin.com/m5f0cd3fc
[02:29] <Awesome3000> noon  it sounds like to devices are trying to use irq channel 17
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  last i had issues seeing shares and stuff. it was not the smb.conf that was the fault. it was the windows os that was being dumb
[02:29] <RandomUsr> Dr_Willis, how so?
[02:29] <noon> Awesome3000, its only after latest updates. not exactly a hardware issue. if you arent experienced in the error im not quite sure if you can easily help?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  windows wouldent access my machines UNLESS i used  the \\\192.168.1.\sharename     but not always... some times i could use teh machine name.... go figure
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  even now i cent access the windows machines on the lan that are using wireless.. (i think) not sure why that is.
[02:31] <Kotan> Hmm.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  but they can access the linux shares.. :) it gets all weird.
[02:31] <Kotan> Looks like the install hung on /ubninit
[02:31] <Kotan> What the hell?
[02:31] <RandomUsr> Dr_Willis, Could NAT be the issue?
[02:31] <user123> hello, Anyone knows how to synchronize a pda with ubuntu? I need to keep my calendar on both my computer and my pocket pc
[02:31] <noon> hrm, no one on the too much irq error? :(
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> RandomUsr:  not sure. I not tracked down all teh issues. I enabled teh 'wins' server on one of my linux box' and the network seems to work a little better now.. Wireless still causes a block. but that might be the router
[02:32] <Brandon_> edgan: didn't work man
[02:32] <noXandOs> what is the switch to have something run minimized?
[02:33] <Fezzler> Does installing Pulseaudio mess up Jack drivers?  I had Jack running great but installed Pulse so I could record off sound card and now jack has latency
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> noXandOs:  ive never seen a general switch for that.. ages ago there was a kde app called kstart that could do it.  but not sdeen a similer thing for gnome
[02:34] <user123> how can I install dccm?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> !info dccm
[02:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders what dccm is
[02:34] <user123> is used to sync pocket pcs with ubuntu
[02:34] <hiexpo> to run minimized command go here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-771455.html
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> user123:  and where did you here of it from?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !find dccm
[02:35] <user123> !info vdccm
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !info odccm
[02:35] <jamesv618> I have received ubuntu server, I tried to upgrade on my 9.1 , can't do that?
[02:35] <user123> Dr_Willis, I downloaded a program called synce
[02:36] <jamesv618> could you give an advice?
[02:37] <user123> Dr_Willis, and it says that cannot start vdccm which is needed to communicate with pda
[02:39] <jada> after downloading flash from SPM, still cant watch movies on youtube. How do i execute a deb file in terminal, downloaded from adobe
[02:39] <Awesome3000> ./name of deb
[02:39] <zget> hi guys
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> user123:  no idea. never heard of either one. check the package manager for vdccm i guess
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> jada:  using the flash from the adobe site may not be a good idea
[02:40] <trism> jada: you really shouldn't need to download it from adobe, since flashplugin-installer just downloads it from adobe and installs it
[02:40] <trism> jada: but you can just double click on the deb file to install it if you want
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> jada:  try installing google chrome browser - i find flash dows work better in it for me - then it does firefox
[02:41] <trism> jada: or dpkg -i packagename.deb
[02:41] <trism> jada: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb; that is
[02:41] <jada> ok thx for tips
[02:41] <user123> Dr_Willis, I couldnt find anything
[02:41] <zget> how install cinelerra
[02:41] <zget> ?
[02:42] <zget> i need help
[02:42] <j_ack> adalal: bye and good luck
[02:42] <mac9416> Is it not possible to use USB-Creator with an NTFS flash drive?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> mac9416:  i dont think its possible
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> mac9416:  i dont think the bootloader tools understand ntfs.  its possible.. but i dont think they dio
[02:43] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, thanks. Maybe I should go back to good 'ol FAT.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> mac9416:  i dont see much need for ntfs on my 8 & 16gb flash drives
[02:44] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, I had just ben told it was faster then FAT.
[02:44] <Fezzler> Can pulseaudio and jack co-exist?
[02:44] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, i don't use fat on any spinning disk...
[02:44] <xaashi>  hi, anyone know how set up a daemon to start before /etc/init.d/networking
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> mac9416:  usb flash would be the  bottleneck - not the filesystem I imagine
[02:45] <zget> anything know how install cinelerra  4.01
[02:45] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, Ah, OK.
[02:45] <perscitus> Is there easier method to network sharing  between two computers?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> You could even use ext2/3/4 and grub2 to make a bootable flash druive  if you wanted
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> perscitus:  you mean share the internet connection?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[02:46] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.->  No.
[02:46] <hiexpo> hey how do i clear everything i've typed in the terminal
[02:46] <hiexpo> i fogot
[02:46] <Out_Cold> hiexpo, clear
[02:46] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, ext4 is bootable?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  try the clear command? :)
[02:46] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, on a flash drive?
[02:46] <hiexpo> oh ya lol
[02:46] <coolcat> hi, what do I have to have installed on my machine to be able to send mails from the localhost to my gmail for example ... using mail command for example?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> mac9416:  i got usb flsh drives set up with grub2 and tghe various linux filesystems. yes
[02:46] <auli> can someone tell me how to print a jpeg from console? i'm trying to write a csript to do a whole bunch of jpegs.. thanks
[02:46] <ascheel> Can someone help me with setting up syslog and the different facilities and priorities?  I have syslog set up to send local7.* to a specific log file, but it's still sending local7.notice (as set up by full-audit in samba) to /var/log/syslog
[02:47] <hiexpo> no my previious history
[02:47] <Out_Cold> coolcat, evolution does that
[02:47] <mac9416> Dr_Willis, durn, now I feel like a noob. thanks for the tip. I'll look into it.
[02:47] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.->  i looked at samba  but its darn complicate. Reading ccna study manual is easier
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  see the history command
[02:47] <Out_Cold> oh.. not cli
[02:47] <auli> googling returns lots of print to jpeg, instead of printing jpegs..
[02:47] <hiexpo> ok
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> perscitus:  go read the using samba book.. in teh repos..
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | perscitus
[02:47] <erisco> precisely every 2 minutes, my wireless connection will lag spike. why?
[02:48] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.->  man docs are worse then ubuntu help.
[02:48] <hiexpo> ya i have 506
[02:48] <coolcat> Out_Cold, why "mail -s "hi there myaccout@gmail.com" does not work? "
[02:48] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the caps lock, the light on the keyboard doesn't come on. Please Help!!!
[02:49] <perscitus> Is there easier method to network sharing  between two computers?
[02:49] <erisco> how do I stop Ubuntu from scanning for wireless networks every 2 minutes? I believe this to be the cause
[02:49] <Out_Cold> coolcat, i never used mail before but perhaps you are having issues routing the mail to your account.
[02:50] <Out_Cold> perscitus, tell us why you want to do this so we can understand better
[02:50] <hiexpo> ok got it had to think history -c
[02:50] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  I want to enable network sharing.
[02:51] <Out_Cold> perscitus, between 2 computers on the same network or over the internet?
[02:51] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  Where in my original statement did i say internet?
[02:51] <erisco> where can I get help specifically for the network manager?
[02:52] <Out_Cold> just probing for info. what's wrong with the samba-doc that Dr_Willis suggested?
[02:52] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  Too complicated
[02:52] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  Cisco's CCNA is easier to read
[02:52] <kmin> hi everyone
[02:53] <Out_Cold> well there are plenty of how-to's located on the ubuntu forums as well as dozens of other sites
[02:53] <kmin> does any one had any problem with packages being corrupt while installing karmac
[02:53] <ThatGuyOverThere> I have a question about disk partitioning... What are the advantages of ext4 over ext3?
[02:53] <kmin> karmic*
[02:53] <Out_Cold> kmin, did you check the disk integrity before installation??
[02:53] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  Nope. googled already
[02:54] <kmin> more than once and i downloaded it twice (once by torrent and once by http)
[02:54] <kmin> and i installed it just fine on a vm machine
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  the howtos tell you how to do specic things.. they often skip other things that you Might want to do later. :)  of course teh docs are free.. so check them out
[02:55] <kmin> but when i try to actually install it on a real computer i get messages about one or more of the packages begin corrupt
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> is there a way to have compiz remember what i have open and all the windows locations, so they're all there automatically when i log back in?
[02:55] <mason> does any one know of any development programs like visual studios i wanna learn
[02:56] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.->  Howtos are better then man docs.
[02:56] <mason> how to develop and like i was so use to windows and like the vs on there.
[02:56] <kmin> i tried burning a cd from the image and booting over network and i get the same result from both cases
[02:56] <Out_Cold> perscitus, http://tinyurl.com/yaowuwt
[02:56] <blakkheim> mason: vi + gcc
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> perscitus:  i dident say see the man docs.. i said to check out the Samba-doc packatge that incudes like 4 BOOKS on using samba.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[02:56] <guest> i just installed 9.10 and all the consoles are hosed.    the vidio is borked.  any thoughts on how to fix my consoles ?
[02:56] <mason> blakkheim, are they good?
[02:57] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.-> http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[02:57] <blakkheim> mason: yes
[02:57] <peloverde> I'm running gnome+compiz+docky on karmic, when I maximize kcachegrind I lose window decorations and my panel and dock. How can I fix this?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis>   install samba-doc package and see whats in ---->  /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs
[02:57] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, have any ebooks on iptables?? i need some lessons :p
[02:58] <mason> blakkheim, are they simple?
[02:58] <kmin> i even tried to install directly form the archive.ubuntu.com websites and still had the same problem
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  they proberly exist. i just dont use them
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> work time for me. bye all
[02:58] <hiexpo> lol
[02:58] <perscitus> Dr_Willis.->  besides, im not instead in manuals
[02:58] <perscitus> or books
[02:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> Seriously, someone help me out. Is ext4 significantly better than ext3?
[02:58] <Out_Cold> perscitus, if you aren't willing to put in the time yourself why should we for you?
[02:58] <blakkheim> mason: "simple" is an opinion
[02:59] <Out_Cold> ThatGuyOverThere, not extremely... but it's the new thing... fixes old bugs, adds more..
[02:59] <mason> blakkheim, like simple to creating simple small programs?
[02:59] <blakkheim> mason: i think they are
[02:59] <ThatGuyOverThere> Out_Cold: Well, of course it's new. Am I going to NOTICE the improvements?
[02:59] <ThatGuyOverThere> Will file operations seem significantly faster?
[03:00] <Out_Cold> ThatGuyOverThere, i haven't yet.. so unless you are looking for them, i doubt it
[03:00] <guest> anyone ?
[03:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[03:00] <mason> blakkheim, do you have an example of what they look like i tried looking it up on youtube no such thing came up.
[03:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm wondering because I want to be able to access my Linux partition from Windows, which isn't possible yet in ext4.
[03:00] <ThatGuyOverThere> I guess I'll just format it in ext3, then.
[03:00] <Fezzler> How do I turn off pulseaudio?
[03:00] <onetinsoldier> ThatGuyOverThere: filesystems are pretty complex. you'd probably have to do a fair amount of reading to answer that question. i'm sure it's got a number of improvements. for one thing, i know that eventually there is going to be a defragger for ext4
[03:00] <Out_Cold> thanks perscitus for reminding me of the COC that i have read several times
[03:01] <perscitus> Anyone care to help me set up network sharing between two computers? (not WAN related)
[03:01] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: why dont u access them over samba ?
[03:01] <hiexpo> killall pulseaudio maybe
[03:01] <guest> how do i get a console viewable ?
[03:01] <ThatGuyOverThere> That's a pain in the butt.
[03:01] <JesseW> Riddell: You just marked bug #336210 as fix released -- but the package emacs-extra still appears to be in lucid -- is it just launchpad taking it's time updating, or?
[03:01] <guest> perscitus: with static or dhcp ?
[03:02] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: it takes 30 sec to set it up and you can map it to a drive letter in windows
[03:02] <coolcat> What device is responsible for the mouse?
[03:02] <matelot> How to " chmod  a+w" for any ".py" files in all sub-dir ?
[03:02] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Can I make it mount the partition when I start Windows?
[03:02] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: yes
[03:03] <ThatGuyOverThere> Hmm... I guess I'll give that a try.
[03:03] <kmin> windows does that automatically
[03:03] <hiexpo> apllications/accessories /terminal
[03:03] <Out_Cold> matelot, something like chmod -R (maybe -r)
[03:03] <taofd> ubuntu cannot detect my mic... help!
[03:03] <matelot> Out_Cold, did this "sudo chmod -R a+w *.py" , didn't work
[03:03] <guest> matelot: find <basedir> -iname *.py -exec chmod a+w '{}' \;
[03:04] <Out_Cold> matelot, chmod -r a+w?
[03:04] <matelot> guest thanks, wow didn't know this complicated
[03:04] <domo> Hello - I want to install linux-rt on my ubuntu server to increase game server responsiveness - is this a good idea though? what are the downfalls when using realtime kernels .. what if im also running a webserver on the same box?
[03:04] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: sorry it think i missunderstood u. if both system are on one computer you can't do that
[03:04] <ThatGuyOverThere> Are you kidding me?
[03:05] <ThatGuyOverThere> Now that I quit the installation.
[03:05] <ThatGuyOverThere> >_<
[03:05] <guest> matelot: a simple find command.   man find   for details
[03:05] <kmin> sine the linux system and windows system should be up at the same time for that to work
[03:05] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: So the best solution is to do what I was planning on and do a fresh installation, format the partition in ext3, and install ext2fsd or something similar in Windows, right?
[03:06] <kmin> yup
[03:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay. Thanks.
[03:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> By the way...
[03:06] <matelot> guest what is this bit "'{}'' for ?
[03:06] <perscitus> Anyone care to help me set up network sharing between two computers? (not WAN related)
[03:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> ...I'm wondering if I can transfer apps from my old Ubuntu partition to the new one?
[03:06] <ThatGuyOverThere> See, I've got Ubuntu and Windows installed already.
[03:06] <guest> i just installed 9.10 and all the consoles are hosed.    the vidio is borked.  any thoughts on how to fix my consoles ?
[03:07] <ThatGuyOverThere> But I decided I wanted my Ubuntu partition in ext3 so I could access those files from Windows.
[03:07] <usrv> ok ubuntu geniuses, I've got a challenge for you. "/dev/sdc is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!" but it's not mounted or in use
[03:07] <guest> matelot:    the found files will be substituted there and quoted
[03:07] <ThatGuyOverThere> So I shrunk the Ubuntu partition and was planning on doing a clean install.
[03:07] <Out_Cold> perscitus, no one here is going to hold your hand and walk you through one step at a time.. go read a short how-to and try for yourself
[03:07] <ThatGuyOverThere> Then I could just transfer files from one partition to the other.
[03:07] <kmin> usrv: if that is the cdrom maybe it is empty :)
[03:08] <ThatGuyOverThere> Can I do the same with my applications somehow?
[03:08] <usrv> kmin: I have 4 sata drives i'm trying to format, a, b, c, d
[03:08] <guest> usrv: cat /proc/mounts     or even   df
[03:08] <hiexpo> did you check what it is running on ?
[03:08] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: u might but i don't recommend it you are better of by installing them fresh
[03:08] <Out_Cold> usrv, using raid or lvms?
[03:08] <ThatGuyOverThere> Okay.
[03:08] <perscitus> Out_Cold.->  dont be disrespectful and rude to asking for help
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> is there a way to have compiz remember what i have open and all the windows locations, so they're all there automatically when i log back in?
[03:09] <Out_Cold> !troll > perscitus
[03:09] <kmin> usrv: if they r new hard (no file system) you can't mount them you should use fdisk first
[03:09] <perscitus> Anyone care to help me set up network sharing between two computers? (not WAN related)
[03:09] <usrv> out_cold: not using raid. I don't know what lvm is.
[03:10] <usrv> kmin: I thought you could format w/o partitioning?
[03:10] <kmin> usrv: no you sould atleast create 1 partition
[03:10] <Out_Cold> usrv, lvm is a fancy way to resize and add disks to existing partitions... really neat idea
[03:10] <kmin> should*
[03:11] <Orias> can anyone help me with ident2?
[03:11] <kmin> perscitus: what is the problem
[03:11] <guest> kmin and usrv   it is possable to write filesystems to hard disk drives,  but the most common way is to create a partition and write the fs there.
[03:11] <kmin> usrv: lvm is the same thing as dynamic disk in windows
[03:11] <zacktu> I have wxpython 2.6 and 2.8 installed.  It appears that command line python and eclipse use 2.6.  How can I get them to use 2.8?  I'm happy to remove 2.i6 -- want to know how to fix paths.
[03:11] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: One more question.
[03:12] <guest> usrv> kmin: I thought you could format w/o partitioning? <<< you can
[03:12] <usrv> thanks guest
[03:12] <ElSonador> quit
[03:12] <usrv> output of cat /proc/mounts -> http://pastebin.com/m11376b53
[03:12] <kmin> guest: isn't that the same as having one partition?
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> zacktu: they probably 'depend' on 2.6 and cannot use 2.8. you can see their dependencies with a command...
[03:13] <usrv> I only want one partition
[03:13] <erisco> if the network manager config files are in gconf-editor, what "directory" are they under? I cannot find anything!
[03:13] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Will it make any difference whether I set up the ext3 partition as logical or primary? I mean with regards to accessing the partition in Windows.
[03:13] <MrPockets> is there a program to make a md5 checksum of a file?
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> zacktu: for instance.. apt-cache show eclpise
[03:13] <guest> kmin no.
[03:13] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: no but you can't boot from a logical partition
[03:13] <Out_Cold> !md5
[03:14] <ThatGuyOverThere> Damn.
[03:14] <guest> kmin a partition table is not a requirement on an hdd   it is however reccomended by most people.
[03:14] <ThatGuyOverThere> I think I already have three primary partitions.
[03:14] <sdwrage> anyone good with virtualbox?
[03:14] <Out_Cold> sdwrage, what's the issues?
[03:14] <erisco> I absolutely know the network manager is scanning for wireless networks every two minutes and this is causing unwanted lag. how can I change the interval?
[03:14] <guest> kmin: you can boot from a logical partition or even an unpartitioned disk.
[03:14] <usrv> guest, kmin: I can't even mkfs.ext4 -F
[03:14] <guest> kmin: i do it all the time.
[03:15] <kmin> guest: i know but that would require lots of time with grub :)
[03:15] <kmin> it is just easier to boot from a primary one
[03:15] <guest> kmin: with early grub yes.  with grub2 no.
[03:16] <kmin> and ThatGuyOverThere you can have 4 primary or 3 primary and one extended so...
[03:16] <sdwrage> Out_Cold, cant get my resolution any higher than 800x600 even after I installed the additions
[03:16] <MrPockets> why not?
[03:16] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, whenever I try to set up my root Ubuntu folder as primary, it won't let me create any more.
[03:16] <desero> sdwrage: !help
[03:16] <ThatGuyOverThere> Which means no swap and no separate partition for my home folder
[03:17] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: then i guess u have to take you chances with grub :D
[03:17] <guest> usrv: blkid | grep 555a147b-f0f0-4623-9390-db7abc1b60d3
[03:17] <kevin1093> i am still unable to select any partitions in the ubuntu installer
[03:17] <ThatGuyOverThere> This sucks.
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> is there a way to have compiz/gnome remember what i have open and all the windows locations, so they're all there automatically when i log back in?
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> does anyone know if it's possible to pipe the sound from my laptop to my desktop when I'm at home? My desktop is hooked up to the stereo.
[03:18] <usrv> guest: sde1. that's the drive my system is installed on
[03:18] <sdwrage> desero, ?
[03:18] <kmin> guest: do u know why i am getting packages corupt message when i try to isntall ubuntu ? the image is correct
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> onetinsoldier, yes. I think it's a compiz plugin, but I'm not sure.
[03:18] <desero> sdwrage: sorry, meant to write to ubottu
[03:18] <guest> ThatGuyOverThere: you probably have three othere primary partitions already
[03:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> Yes, I'm sure I do.
[03:19] <guest> usrv: then i don't see why an   sudo eject /dev/sd?    wont work.
[03:19] <desero> ubottu: help <- swrage
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> Seven_Six_Two: ok
[03:19] <ThatGuyOverThere> One of them is probably the recovery Windows partition, and the other two are the main Windows partition and my Ubuntu partition.
[03:19] <sdwrage> !help
[03:19] <desero> ahh, yes :)
[03:19] <sdwrage> desero, im confused what you want me to ask....
[03:19] <sdwrage> 0_o
[03:19] <sdwrage> oh hah
[03:20] <sdwrage> yeah I know
[03:20] <desero> sdwrage: what is it about virtualbox you need help with?
[03:20] <squelch> Hi, would anyone here be willing to mirror a myspace page for me
[03:20] <usrv> guest: *******@*******:~$ sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[03:20] <usrv> mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[03:20] <usrv> /dev/sdc1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[03:20] <stealyourface> ThatGuyOverThere:  cant have more than 4 primary partitions or something
[03:20] <ThatGuyOverThere> Yeah, I know.
[03:20] <guest> ThatGuyOverThere: so you'll need to make the fourth primary partition the holder for the extended/logical partitions, seeing that the partitioner can only handle four primaries.  but booting from an extened shouldn't be a problem.
[03:21] <usrv> i also ejected sdc1, sdc
[03:21] <ThatGuyOverThere> guest: Explain how I do that... make the fourth primary partition the blah blah blah.
[03:21] <squelch> Would anyone be willing to mirror a myspace page for me?
[03:21] <usrv> guaest: I can delete/create partitions with fdisk. I just can't format
[03:21] <guest> usrv: hmmmm    sudo fdisk -l    and see if the system even recgnizes an sdc
[03:22] <int_s> hi-is it safe to ctrl-c out of a fsck.ext3?
[03:22] <usrv> guest: it does
[03:22] <sdwrage> desero, I mentioned it above but ill mention it again. I am having a problem with my ubuntu VM in virtualbox having a max resolution of 800x600
[03:22] <usrv> it knows sdc1 is a lunx partition
[03:22] <sdwrage> desero, even installed the additions
[03:22] <usrv> linux*
[03:22] <squelch> Would anyone be willing to mirror a myspace page for me? I'd be willing to pay up to $25
[03:22] <guest> ThatGuyOverThere: the options is marked as "extended"     what it really is, is a primary that contains other partitions.  but that's confusing.
[03:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> guest: So what you're saying is I'm going to have to delete my existing partition before I re-install Ubuntu if I want to make the new Ubuntu partition primary, right?
[03:24] <guest> usrv: and scd1 is where the system lives ?
[03:24] <usrv> guest: this problem started yesterday. I took the drive out and did a full format overnight in windows and it worked fine
[03:24] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: sorry buddy setting up dual boot systems always need planing before hand
[03:24] <usrv> guest: no, sde1
[03:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: :/
[03:24] <hpnguyen032001> install host
[03:24] <Johnny_425> Whenever I try to load an .exe file, It comes up as a white screen. Please help me
[03:24] <prospero977> Anyone here familiar with squid... I've got a classroom proxy server that blocks websites, but I'd like to have it display a custom page when it hits a site that is in the bad-sites file. Right now, it generates a generic page.
[03:25] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Would I need to set up my home partition as primary, or just the root partition?
[03:25] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: actually only the /boot one needs to be primary
[03:25] <orly_owl> Where can I download a deb of the latest Cheese for jaunty?
[03:25] <guest> ThatGuyOverThere: what i am saying is.   you are only allowed 4 primary partitions,  and if you want more than 4 total partitions, one of the primaries has to be and extended partition.
[03:25] <Johnny_425> Whenever I try to load an .exe file, It comes up as a white screen. Please help me
[03:25] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: /boot?
[03:25] <F223> how do I make my Ubuntu install things to my external hard drive by default
[03:25] <ThatGuyOverThere> What is /boot?
[03:26] <ThatGuyOverThere> That's part of the root partition I'm going to make, right? Primary partition, ext3, mount point /?
[03:26] <kmin> :D
[03:26] <usrv> guest: here's a question. this motherboard is new. would ubuntu have issues with me setting my sata controller to AHCI?
[03:26] <guest> ThatGuyOverThere: and as i said before,   i have no issues with booting logical volumes.
[03:26] <squelch> Where is a good place to get web mirroring help?
[03:26] <squelch> I have the ability to do all of this, I don't have a hard drive.
[03:26] <guest> usrv: very possable.
[03:26] <usrv> guest: i don't get it tho because it sees the drives and lets me partition them
[03:27] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: / can be a logical partition /boot is the one that holds your kernel and needs to be a primary if you don't want to use extended grub configuration
[03:27] <sdwrage> Anyone know where the install logs are kept in ubuntu?
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> usrv: i'm running x86_64. i set mine to ahci.. works a treat
[03:27] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: What the deuce.
[03:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: I'm going off of this guide. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome
[03:28] <usrv> onetinsoldier: x86_64 on mine as well. i'm actually running ubuntu server but fdisk and mkfs all work the same :)
[03:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: According to this, I just set up a partition with mount point / and another one with mount point /home.
[03:28] <kmin> if you don't want to remove your already in place windows partitions it will pay off to looking into grub and use the logical partitions as guest mentioned
[03:28] <guest> usrv: let me hand you off to someone that has had some experance with this sort of issue.   all my hardware is older stuff.  and i really don't know what else to do there.
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> usrv: yeah
[03:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: And I was planning on making a swap partition as well.
[03:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: I see nothing in there about creating a partition /boot.
[03:29] <usrv> guest: ok thanks a lot. do you know someone in particular or just anybody reading along?
[03:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> So what am I missing here?
[03:29] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: that is true if you can afford to have those partition but that is not the only way
[03:29] <guest> anybody reading realy
[03:29] <int_s> anyone know if it is safe to abort a fsck on an ext3 currently in pass 1?
[03:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Okay. Bottom line, if I want my new Ubuntu partition to be primary, I'm going to have to delete the existing Ubuntu partition first, yes?
[03:29] <usrv> guest: ok. thanks for the assist.
[03:29] <marks256> How can i return a user's id? I want to be able to (as root) type in "getid bob" and have it return me the UID
[03:30] <usrv> anyone have any ideas?
[03:30] <guest> marks256: id
[03:30] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: yes if you want it to be primary  it seems that u are running our of partitions
[03:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> Dang.
[03:30] <kmin> out*
[03:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright.
[03:30] <marks256> guest, that seems to give me my id...
[03:31] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: So when I set up the new partitions, what I'm asking is, only / needs to be primary, right?
[03:31] <squelch> anyone know where to ask good questions about HTML jobs
[03:31] <ThatGuyOverThere> Or does /home need to be primary also?
[03:31] <ThatGuyOverThere> And if it doesn't need to be, is there any advantage to doing so?
[03:31] <guest> marks256: if it's in a script you might just test the  UID   [ ! 0 == $UID ] && echo not root
[03:31] <marks256> guest, read the man page. thanks :) it's working now
[03:31] <ryanCH> i currently have a Radeon HD 4850 .. and i'm going to replace it with a Radeon HD 5870 .. think linux will notice? without installing/changing any new drivers
[03:31] <kmin> ThatGuyOverThere: it does not need to be but it is a good practice
[03:32] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[03:32] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright.
[03:32] <ThatGuyOverThere> But I'm still going to need a swap partition.
[03:32] <marks256> guest, nah i need the actual number for display purposes
[03:32] <guest> marks256: welcome.
[03:32] <kmin> yes u do
[03:32] <ThatGuyOverThere> Will I be able to set that up if both my / and /home partitions are primary?
[03:32] <squelch> IS there a way to find people who are willing to do computer jobs for money?
[03:32] <kmin> this is how i usually do it
[03:32] <Kotan> Sooooooooo
[03:32] <squelch> I had to ask here because no one is answering my question in any other channel
[03:32] <Kotan> Ubuntu NBR still isn't booting
[03:32] <guest> marks256: heh.  that is the actual number...     echo $UID
[03:32] <squelch> They're all like "Or does /home need to primary also?"
[03:33] <Mars_> Good day everyone
[03:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> squelch: You are really annoying.
[03:33] <kmin> one primary for windows c:  one primary for linux '/boot' and one extended that holds everything else swap '/home /opt' etc.
[03:33] <squelch>  So are you, you piece of poo
[03:33] <Kotan> Loading /ubnkern....... Loading /ubninit........ready.
[03:33] <Kotan> And now nothing.
[03:33] <Kotan> Sigh.
[03:33] <squelch> Hay chubby pucker, how are you.  How many times do you have to poo?
[03:33] <DeamonFish> Any one?
[03:34] <hpnguyen032001> how install webmin
[03:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> squelch: Here's a good practice. Does the name of the channel say anything about mirroring your MySpace page in it?
[03:34] <actionParsnip_> looks like i have to go via proxy users first
[03:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> squelch: Then probably nobody wants to talk about that.
[03:34] <LogicFan> !webmin
[03:34] <DeamonFish> What program should i use to download Torrents?
[03:34] <LogicFan> !ebox
[03:34] <squelch> no, you bucker, but diect me to a channel that does then
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> ryanCH: yes. well, it could depend. what driver are you using? do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? if so, it might have your video cards chipset as an entry in that file and X reads that when it starts up.
[03:35] <shadow_120> deamonfish: i use deluge
[03:35] <usrv> where's das boot when you need it
[03:35] <onetinsoldier> ryanCH: if you don't have that file, then X just runs at some defaults using a generic driver i think
[03:35] <DeamonFish> Does it work good?
[03:35] <Mars_> Does anyone know why when I try to install that Ubuntu wont see my partions? I have created a linux partion both using partion magic and using liveCD (sorry this is first time I am using linux of any kind)
[03:35] <ThatGuyOverThere> squelch: This channel is for discussion about Ubuntu. If you want to talk about something that has nothing to do with that, go somewhere else.
[03:35] <shadow_120> deamonfish: i like it it works good
[03:35] <ryanCH> onetinsoldier, well ubuntu configured it all automatically .. so what do i need to do to install the new video card
[03:35] <kmin> so no one knows why i might be getting corrupt packages message while installing ubuntu?
[03:35] <nitor> deamonfish: deluge is on ublender.com as the best torrent client
[03:36] <DeamonFish> Ok, thanks for your help guys :)
[03:37] <mothersofinventi> I got segfault from blender in karmic.
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> ryanCH: i'm not sure. it used to be a command like 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg' - but i'm not sure if that command is it anymore
[03:37] <shadow_120> deamonfish: yep no problem
[03:37] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/359342
[03:37] <Kotan> Alright guys
[03:37] <guest> i just installed 9.10 and all the consoles are hosed.    the vidio is borked.  any thoughts on how to fix my consoles?   can i disable something in /etc/rc$runlevel.d/ to keep my consoles from going bonkers?
[03:37] <Kotan> If this still doesn't work, I'm gonna give up on Ubuntu.
[03:37] <Kotan> Here's the history so far.
[03:38] <mothersofinventi> how do I fix it?
[03:38] <flacom> hi all.. anyone knows iptables?? i got a vpn server on linux... when I client is connected it create a new pppN interface (n >= 0) how can I forward dynamic interfaces=
[03:38] <flacom> ?
[03:38] <Kotan> I tried every combination of settings with the provided usb-creator.exe utility to make my USB drive bootable.
[03:38] <microhaxo> Hello, How can i temp disable my touchpad when i am typing on my netbook. I hate it when i am typing code and my hand slightly touches the pad and makes me delete a shit ton of stuff.
[03:38] <Kotan> I got a mounting error.
[03:38] <Kotan> cannot mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[03:38] <Kotan> So, I tried reinstalling it to the usb stick.
[03:38] <Kotan> [ 3.208287] [<c0104007>] kernel_thread_helpter+0x7/x10, etc. etc. etc.
[03:39] <bsgc> exit
[03:39] <Kotan> Well damn. So I used a different way to make it bootable.
[03:39] <Kotan> That ubnetbootin
[03:39] <Mars_> Could someone help?
[03:39] <Kotan> >Loading /ubnkern............
[03:39] <Kotan> >Loading /ubninit.................ready.
[03:39] <Kotan> >_
[03:39] <Kotan> Freeze.
[03:39] <FloodBot1> Kotan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <kfizz> Does anyone know where menubar/toolbar information is stored for firefox? The menubar and nav bar are missing (it's not in full screen)
[03:39] <Kotan> So.
[03:39] <Kotan> How do I get NBR to work on my 1005HA?
[03:40] <Leftmost> Is there any way I can get the Ubuntu LiveCD to boot off of an external Firewire CD drive? Currently, it just gives me a "No bootable device".
[03:40] <Kotan> If I can't even boot it up, I don't see how it could possibly be compatible with my 1005HA.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip__> kfizz: somewhere in ~/.mozilla
[03:40] <ActionParsnip__> Kotan: did you MD5 test the img file you downloaded?
[03:41] <mothersofinventi> how do I fix a segfault?
[03:41] <Kotan> No, but I've been using 3 different images (IE: Downloaded 3 different times) from 2 different locations on 2 different computers
[03:41] <Kotan> I'll check the MD5sum as soon as I find it for NBR, give me a sec
[03:41] <paissad> hi all, i just registered some dns domains & subdomains from freedns.afraid.org & i exported this file, what i want to know is where to pu this file please http://pastebin.com/f5c9fe2df
[03:41] <ActionParsnip__> Kotan: doesnt matter, you could download it an infinite number of times and never get a good image
[03:41] <kfizz> I got it in about:config, thanks ActionParsnip__
[03:41] <paissad> thanks in advance for helping
[03:41] <Kotan> I suppose.
[03:42] <Kotan> Where's the MD5sum for the image?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip__> !md5 | Kotan
[03:42] <testtt> which file on the desktop cd ISO has the filesystem and how can it be mounted by a regular ubuntu system with the cd in the disk drive?
[03:42] <Mars_> I really need help I have been working on the problem for 4 hours. To recap, When I go to install, ubuntu wont see my partions, and I have created partion (in many different ways)...........Please Help.
[03:42] <paissad> i've seen a file that looks like it -> /etc/bind/db.local
[03:42] <paissad> is that file where i must put the contents
[03:43] <ActionParsnip__> testtt: you can mount the CD using the mount command, it will automount wen inserted, ISOs need a tiny bt more effort
[03:43] <secret> hiiiiiiiii :) where is my vote ?
[03:43] <secret> hiiiiiiiii :) where is my vote ?
[03:43] <secret> hiiiiiiiii :) where is my vote ?
[03:43] <FloodBot1> secret: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <ActionParsnip__> testtt: the CD has the filesystem
[03:44] <Kotan> About to check hash
[03:44] <Kotan> MD5 matches.
[03:44] <testtt> ActionParsnip__,   looking to pull the /etc directory off the bootable CD... where / how to do it?
[03:44] <Kotan> It's a valid image.
[03:44] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/359342
[03:45] <Kotan> Now that I know I have a valid image
[03:45] <ActionParsnip__> Kotan: then run the disk verifier on the install medium once initially booted, as well as the ram tester
[03:45] <Kotan> I did that already.
[03:45] <Kotan> No errors
[03:45] <Mars_> Any thoughts anyone?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip__> testtt: i'd boot to the live cd, mount the internal partition with the current /etc and copy the folder from the live system to the internal drive
[03:46] <ActionParsnip__> !bootoptions | Kotan
[03:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Okay, here's what I'm trying to do.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip__> Kotan: all i can suggest then
[03:46] <testtt> hmmm
[03:46] <Kotan> ...is this a quantum distribution?
[03:46] <Kotan> Now that I've checked the MD5sum, it's booted up.
[03:47] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: I created a new empty logical partition in the unused space I created. Then I want to copy all of my Ubuntu folders to it, delete the existing Ubuntu partition, and do a clean install of Ubuntu. Then I can get my old Ubuntu files off of the logical partition.
[03:47] <Kotan> And don't look at me like that, I've been trying this since noon, and it's 9:47 PM here.
[03:47] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: How can I do that?
[03:47] <Kotan> Alright, let's see how it goes.
[03:47] <guest> i just installed 9.10 and all the consoles are hosed.    the vidio is borked.  any thoughts on how to fix my consoles ?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip__> guest: what is the output of: lsb_release -c    ?
[03:48] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: Every time I try to copy all of my Ubuntu files from / it says it can't do it.
[03:48] <ThatGuyOverThere> kmin: I'm using Nautilus with root permissions.
[03:48] <Mars_> Will some one help.
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> guest, do you happen to have a Hauppauge TV Tuner and Nvidia graphics card?
[03:49] <ThatGuyOverThere> Damn, he's gone.
[03:49] <ThatGuyOverThere> Can anyone else help?
[03:49] <guest> ActionParsnip__: 9.10 karmic
[03:49] <guest> ZykoticK9: no
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> guest, k just asking (different issue then), good luck man
[03:50] <Mars_> Any thoughts on why the install can't see my partions?
[03:50] <guest> ZykoticK9: k
[03:51] <delfick1> Hi, I connected my laptp to my TV and that works fine. Except that the TV only shows the highlighted part of this screenshot http://sites.google.com/site/delficktest/screenProblem.png. Does anyone know how to fix this ?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip__> guest: then simply run: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; shutdown -r now      from root recovery console
[03:51] <Wind0pain> is anyone here running ubuntu through VMPlayer?  I'm wondering if the 3D desktop effects are working for you?
[03:51] <quietone> How do I find and install drivers for ATI card [Radeon X1550 Series RV505]?
[03:51] <Mike_lifeguard> If I have "set nowrap" in ~/.nanorc, how can I do the opposite of "nano -w" -- ie open nano *with* linewrapping?
[03:52] <morphix> i have a question, for a USB printer, shared via CUPS using IPP or similar is a remote print job able to turn the printer on?
[03:52] <viggy_prabhu> hi friends
[03:52] <guest> ActionParsnip__: X works ok.   the consoles are hosed
[03:52] <viggy_prabhu> this might be off-topic to this list, but i thought may be someone must have tried it earlier
[03:53] <viggy_prabhu> i have downloaded a file using torrent, but it seems that it is playable only in moviexplayer
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> Wind0pain, i have no idea about VMPlayer, but 3d effect to work with VirtualBox - just something to keep in mind
[03:53] <shadow_120> delfic1: its you resolution you just have to play with it
[03:53] <guest> i just installed 9.10 and all the consoles are hosed.   any thoughts on how to fix my consoles ?  <<< can i turn something off in runlevel # that might help ?
[03:53] <guest> ActionParsnip__:   ^
[03:53] <delfick1> shadow_120: I tried, but none of them seem to fix it :(
[03:53] <viggy_prabhu> is it possible for me to somehow for me to break it and make it play in vlc or movie player
[03:53] <viggy_prabhu> ?
[03:53] <Mars_> I would really like to install ubuntu, but I am having troubles with the installer not seeing my partions, any thoughts.....
[03:53] <Mars_> Anyon
[03:54] <Mars_> Anyone?
[03:54] <worldwarcheese> Hi there, I got a real quick question about using the Terminal: If I open a piece of software with a terminal but how do I close the terminal itself while keeping avant window mandager up?
[03:54] <delfick1> shadow_120: from using nvidia-settings dialog
[03:54] <twomashi1> Hi, how do I use a ppa: link in jaunty?
[03:54] <earl_> #ubuntu-beginners
[03:54] <Wind0pain> ZykoticK9: i just tried vBox with no luck.  after installing guest additions i shut down the machine, made sure 3D support was enabled...  after trying to enable the enhanced desktop features i saw this error: "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[03:54] <ActionParsnip__> quietone: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ati-video-card-in-you-linux-system.html
[03:54] <ActionParsnip__> guest: not sure then dude, sorry
[03:54] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: have you ever used 'cfdisk'?
[03:54] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/359342/
[03:55] <shadow_120> dekfick1: if your the guy from the forums ask there someone will know
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> Wind0pain, dunno man - it certainly works for me with Ubuntu host & guest with Nvidia gfx card
[03:55] <Mars_> I have not
[03:55] <bucket529> Problem: I changed my Display resolution from (I think) 1400x733 to 1280x720, and now I cannot login - GDM seems to crash and restart. How can I determine the correct resolution, and implement it, from the recovery console?
[03:55] <Wind0pain> ZykoticK9: hmm, i'm using an nVidia 7950gt, 7 host and 9.10 guest
[03:55] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa    for example, change the ppa bit for the ppa you want to add
[03:55] <cyberjorge> ji, how do I install SpoonWEP and SpoonWPA? it's not currently in the repo.
[03:55] <delfick1> shadow_120: "the guy from the forums" ?? (well, I do have a forum account of name "delfick") however probably a good idea... thnx anyways :p
[03:55] <twomashi1> ActionParsnip__: that's only in karmic :/
[03:55] <ActionParsnip__> Wind0pain: what does: sudo lshw -C display    say the display is?
[03:56] <Mars_> But I used the software that came with ubuntu
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> Wind0pain, 7 is in Windows 7?  lol, that's probably the issue (sorry man i don't to MS at all anymore, good luck)
[03:56] <Wind0pain> maybe if ubuntu is both the host and the guest things work out better... i'm installing on vmwareplayer at the moment
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: roger. in the installer did you pick to make your partitions manually? how did you make these partitions that the installer is not seing?
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> seeing*
[03:56] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: then you'll have to do it the old way by adding it in /etc/apt/sources.list   then inporting the key on the ppa page
[03:56] <twomashi1> ActionParsnip__: but im not sure how to convert the ppa: link to a deb link
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> Wind0pain, just as an FYI, 3d effects aren't really that great in VMs (they work, but not what i'd call "well")
[03:57] <twomashi1> i odnt think jaunty understands ppa: links
[03:57] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: not to my knowledge
[03:57] <Wind0pain> ActionParsnip__: i deleted the VM just a few minutes ago, can't check now
[03:57] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: takes seconds to add the ppa to the text file, the link to the key will also be on the ppa page so can easily be iported
[03:58] <ActionParsnip__> imported*
[03:58] <Wind0pain> ZykoticK9: ahh, i was just interested in the desktop effects; it's the main reason i wanted to have an ubuntu guest
[03:58] <ActionParsnip__> Wind0pain: really!? they get old real quick
[03:58] <Mars_> First I resized with Pation Magic out of windows, cleared out 20 gigs for partion. then used the LiveCD and went though the install and it doesn't see the empty space, I then created the partion using the Gpart (or whatever it is called) the live CD still sees the partions after reboots, but the installer wont.
[03:58] <twomashi1> ActionParsnip__: I just have a ppa: link: ppa:kevin-mehall/libwnck
[03:58] <twomashi1> nothing else
[03:58] <microhaxo> How cpu intensive is gnome-do ? I was thinking of installing on my netbook but if it will drain cpu/battery there is no point..
[03:58] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: gimme a sec
[03:58] <Wind0pain> ActionParsnip__: it's something different.
[03:59] <MrUnix> microhaxo, GNOME is pretty low resource-intensive.
[03:59] <scunizi> microhaxo: no much
[03:59] <microhaxo> say i remove my gnome panels and strickly use gnome-do with docky
[03:59] <microhaxo> would that use about the same power?
[03:59] <microhaxo> strictly*
[04:00] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: https://launchpad.net/~kevin-mehall/+archive/libwnck
[04:00] <MrUnix> microhaxo, The difference would be neglibable.
[04:00] <quietone> ActionParsnip__: thanks I missed that doc in my searches
[04:00] <microhaxo> Battery life is very important, so if its even like 10% more i dont want to do it.
[04:00] <twomashi1> ActionParsnip__: thanks!
[04:00] <ActionParsnip__> twomashi1: the page has a link to the key which you can paste to a text file then import
[04:01] <MrUnix> microhaxo, We're talking like a few minutes here and there. Why don't you use XFCE if you're looking for a low-power desktop environment?
[04:01] <mothersofinventi> nobody knows about segfaults?
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: you sure the installer can't see it? try the option to set up your partitions manually. then on 'gparted', look over on the far upper right. you should see a button that will let you select the device for partitioning. try it and see if you can't find it there
[04:01] <microhaxo> I cant stand xfce for some reason :|
[04:01] <MrUnix> microhaxo, Enlightenment?
[04:01] <stevenheidel> my cups service does not start whenever my computer boots up. I have to run "/etc/init.d/cups restart" before I want to print something.
[04:01] <ActionParsnip__> microhaxo: try lxde or fluxbox for an alternative light DE
[04:01] <microhaxo> I really like gnome :|
[04:01] <microhaxo> on gnome i get about 7 hours 50 min of battery life
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> microhaxo, gnome-do requires compiz running!  thus battery usage will not be low.
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: but really, i'm not 100% sure what's wrong
[04:01] <microhaxo> Ahh
[04:02] <microhaxo> forget that crap then
[04:02] <MrUnix> microhaxo, Standard GNOME with no compiz is the best you can shoot for then.
[04:02] <microhaxo> Yep, thats what i have now.
[04:02] <kevin1093> i have been trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on my 30 gig maxtor hd for about 4 hours now, i am running off of the live cd, and i am trying to create partions so that the installer will recognize them, but i am being told that i don't have the permissions to do anything. can any one help me?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip__> stevenheidel: add it to /etc/rc.local  and it will be ran at the last step before the login screen shows
[04:02] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: microhaxo not true.. there is a version that doesn't.. it's only the "on screen docky thing" that requires compiz
[04:02] <MrUnix> microhaxo, then there you go. =)
[04:02] <microhaxo> lol :)
Fair its hard to explain because I am new to Linux. In Gparted there is my NTSF partion (70gig) and Linux partion (20gig). But when I do the install I get to step 4 of 7 and there are no partions in the list.
[04:03] <microhaxo> I was going to try and use gnomedo + docky as a full replacement of the applications menu etc.
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, ok you're right about that - as i only use gnome-do for the dock I kinda forget it does do other things as well - my bad
[04:03] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: :)  ..
[04:03] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: run: gksudo gparted and create the partitions there, the installer should run as root so access isn't an issue, you can sidestep the partitioning step by manually doing it before kicking off the installer if its being a PITA
[04:04] <kevin1093> i am using gparted
[04:04] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: you could even run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     to upgrade the files in the liveCD environment whic may help (these will not transfer to the installed system)
[04:04] <Mars_> Then I click forward, and I get an error saying I haven't selected a partion (which I would if there was anything in my list)
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: you just have one hard drive?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: gparted will need running with gksudo or it will only be running as a user which has no admin access
[04:05] <Mars_> yup
[04:05] <Maz3Mike> question...i just did useradd ts3
[04:05] <kevin1093> i will also say that this is my first experience with linux
[04:05] <Maz3Mike> as root
[04:05] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: are you able to select the 'free space'? is there free space in gparted? the 20 gigs that you made?
[04:05] <Maz3Mike> This should have created the home directory right?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: no problem, ubuntu is great for linux virgins
[04:06] <Maz3Mike> I did this by the CLI too
[04:06] <Mars_> It was free space, but I have formated it be a linux partion.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip__> !addser | Maz3Mike
[04:06] <ActionParsnip__> !adduser
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: did you use Partition Magic to make the partition a linux partition?
[04:06] <mothersofinventi> why do someone gets segfaults?
[04:06] <Morell> ls -d list directories?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: it will by default, yes. You can use -d to specify a different home dir if you wish
[04:07] <Mars_> at first, but then I used gparted to to delete it and re-partion. which I thought was the issue to start with. but it didn't work
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: never mind. you'd said that you had used gparted to make it a linux partition
[04:08] <Mike_lifeguard> If I have "set nowrap" in ~/.nanorc, how can I do the opposite of "nano -w" -- ie open nano *with* linewrapping?
[04:08] <Maz3Mike> Interesting....I see it in the passwd and shadow file....but when I go to /home...I dont see it there
[04:08] <claudeless> any php mssql freaks around..
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: yeah, roger. i'm not sure what's wrong. i might if i were there looking at it myself
[04:08] <scunizi> Morell: although "man ls" says that is true. I just tried it and it doesn't show my directories
[04:09] <Mars_> Ya...Well you up for a flight to Canada
[04:09] <Mars_> LOL
[04:09] <Maz3Mike> I meant only in the passwd file
[04:09] <Morell> yes but not work
[04:09] <scunizi> right
[04:09] <Maz3Mike> Do I need to create the home directory?
[04:09] <Mars_> which linux partion should I be using to install ubuntu
[04:09] <scunizi> Why doesn't ls -d show the directories in my ~ directory?
[04:09] <Mars_> maybe I am using the wrong type
[04:09] <kevin1093> another question: what is gksudo?
[04:10] <Maz3Mike> Hmm..thinking I didnt use the -d option
[04:10] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: hehe. nope, sorry. but, you could try using 'cfdisk'. sometimes using it to write out the partition table seems to work better. but you have to know how to get to a console in the installer and you have to use the command line
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> Morell, the "-d" is to show the directory name, instead of the contents of the directory
[04:10] <Renatus> So why do I have to type the WEP key everytime I restart my computer?
[04:10] <scunizi> kevin1093: it's used to start a gui app with sudo privlidges
[04:10] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: you may have to create the home folder manually
[04:10] <kevin1093> and how do i get it?
[04:10] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: I just tried it and it didn't work for me despite man ls saying it should
[04:10] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: make sure it is owned by the user to whom it belongs
[04:11] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: you have gksudo
[04:11] <Morell> ZykoticK9: i want lis only directories
[04:11] <Maz3Mike> arghhhhhhh...I thought it would create the home folder automatically
[04:11] <ActionParsnip__> kevin1093: gksudo is how to correctly run GUI apps with elevated priveledges
[04:11] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: the gui app does (i believe)
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, with the an example directory, try "ls dirname" vs "ls -l dirname"
[04:11] <Mars_> do you think maybe I am using the wrong linux partion?
[04:12] <Maz3Mike> So let me get this straight...if you use the CLI it doesnt automatically create the home directory?
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, s/"ls -l/"ls -d
[04:12] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: not sure
[04:12] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: if I'm in ~ and simply do a ls -d shouldn't it show the directories in ~?
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, nope
[04:12] <ActionParsnip__> Maz3Mike: i'd read the adduser doc to check
[04:12] <ActionParsnip__> !adduser
[04:13] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: I have to explicitely name the directory?
[04:13] <Maz3Mike> According to the useradd command...it says it will create the homedirectory
[04:13] <adam[pac]> hi, i just formatted my vista ntfs partition to free up about 150gb of space "in front of" my ubuntu partition.  i also have unallocated space after the ubuntu partition.  now i want to move ubuntu to the beginning of the first partition and consolidate all three into a single partition without losing my data.  is this possible if i use the livecd?
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, for the -d to do anything yes
[04:13] <onetinsoldier> Mars_: i really don't know. all i can think of/recommend 'trying' is... cfdisk instead of gparted
[04:14] <Mars_> Thanks for your help onetin. have a good one.
[04:14] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: no.. what I mean is if I'm in my home directory and want a listing of just the directories in home then I have to do "ls -d /home/<user> ?? as opposed to being in the home directory and simply doing ls -d ??
[04:14] <tazbo> When I originally setup my UBuntu, for some reason my boot information went onto drive 2, and the main & swap partitions went onto drive 1.. now I want to remove drive 2 from my system but i'm having a hard time getting it to boot without the second drive.. any suggestions?
[04:14] <Renatus> How can I save the WEP key so I dont have to enter it each time I logon?
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, i don't know a way (although i'm sure there is one) of listing just directories, but it probably doesn't have anything to do with "ls -d"
[04:15] <blakkheim> Renatus: you shouldn't use wep
[04:16] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: take a look at "man ls" .. the -d switch is for directories like you mentioned.. it's just the syntax that's probably messing with us.
[04:16] <Renatus> what would I use otherwise?
[04:16] <Seven_Six_Two> Renatus, WPA. WEP can be cracked in a matter of minutes. If that.
[04:18] <morphix> um
[04:18] <Seven_Six_Two> is it really quiet in here? maybe I'm on the dirty end of a split
[04:18] <morphix> with CUPS, when i use the web interface eg. (127.0.0.1:631) and i go to administrator it asks for user/pass
[04:18] <Renatus> well i cant change the encryption, but how do i make the wireless connection automatic instead of having to enter the key each time?
[04:19] <morphix> in docs it says "enter root and your root password"
[04:19] <morphix> yet root is disable by default.
[04:19] <morphix> my normal user account is also added to lpadmin so this should work, correct?
[04:19] <blakkheim> Renatus: WPA2-AES with a 63 character string of random ascii for a passphrase
[04:19] <Deeeez> anyone here who might be able to help me with setting up a connection to a SMB share?
[04:20] <Maz3Mike> HOLY MOLY
[04:20] <Maz3Mike> I figured it out
[04:20] <Renatus1> uhh
[04:20] <Renatus1> well its not my network
[04:20] <Maz3Mike> adduser --home /home/ts3 ts3....worked
[04:20] <Maz3Mike> created the account and built the home directory
[04:20] <ha> alo
[04:21] <ha> alo
[04:21] <ha> I'm from vietnam
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> hello ha
[04:23] <black2305> hii
[04:23] <black2305> ;]
[04:23] <AnotherNewbie219> hi
[04:23] <AnotherNewbie219> I need some help with setup of my wifi on ubuntu
[04:24] <black2305> litl prob with vine
[04:24] <black2305> wine sory
[04:24] <AnotherNewbie219> I am using 9.10 and have M1210
[04:25] <AnotherNewbie219> demsg says .. Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network
[04:25] <AnotherNewbie219> can an expert here give me a hand setting up this one.
[04:25] <thelinuxexperime> hey all. I have a question that I'm not sure where to ask. It involves a project created in MonoDevelop and an issue I am having with debuild trying to turn it into a deb
[04:25] <AnotherNewbie219> I tried rutilt and it scans well but connect with profile seems to do nothing and it fails
[04:26] <blakkheim> mono.. :(
[04:26] <AnotherNewbie219> rutilt hangs
[04:26] <AnotherNewbie219> can someone please help me with the issue I am facing with my network card
[04:27] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: the correct syntax is "ls -d */" to get a directory listing.
[04:27] <AnotherNewbie219> your help is greatly appreciated
[04:28] <AnotherNewbie219> any ubuntu wifi experts in here??
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> scunizi, ok that's kinda a "work-around" but it works :)  thanks, now i know and you did use -d :)
[04:28] <scunizi> Morell: found it.. ls -d */ .. to get a list of the directories in the directory that you're in.
[04:28] <scunizi> ZykoticK9: had to go to #linux to get the answer :(
[04:28] <black2305> sumone know a bout simbian device locks?
[04:29] <black2305> ;]
[04:29] <AnotherNewbie219> ZykoticK9 do you know about ubuntu wifi
[04:29] <AnotherNewbie219> I need some help
[04:29] <Renatus1> adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate, when i try to install it on firefox?
[04:29] <brandon-> can anyone think of a reason why my system would lag over time
[04:29] <brandon-> it runs great when i first boot up but it seems like the speed degrades over time, it doesnt get unbearable but its very noticeable, i thought only windows had this problem :/
[04:29] <AnotherNewbie219> brandon- try using top and figure out what processes
[04:30] <AnotherNewbie219> are running
[04:30] <brandon-> kk
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> Renatus1: when's the last time you updated the package list?
[04:30] <Maz3Mike> when you are logged into one account how to do you su to root
[04:30] <AnotherNewbie219> I need help with setting up my wifi
[04:30] <Maz3Mike> Is it su -
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> AnotherNewbie219, sorry man, wifi has always "just worked" for me on Ubuntu - haven't done much troubleshooting, i've certainly never even heard of rutilt before.  good luck man.
[04:30] <morphix> Renatus1: install flashplugin-installer
[04:30] <Maz3Mike> sudo -i
[04:31] <AnotherNewbie219> any ubuntu wifi experts in here
[04:31] <AnotherNewbie219> I need help with my network card wifi
[04:31] <AnotherNewbie219> recently upgraded to 9.10 and regret that
[04:31] <scunizi> Renatus1: or simply "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[04:31] <AnotherNewbie219> network fails :(
[04:31] <jack5463> how can i load ubuntu from a cd and load emacs and save it, keep it, so when i reboot i still have it
[04:31] <Morell> scunizi: Yes, that works. Thanks
[04:31] <Renatus1> ty sir
[04:32] <web1109> so my laptop is setup to suspend after 20 minutes of inactivity. Can I further set it to transition to hibernate after 2hrs? Will it auto transition to hibernate when battery get low? (my puter eats some whiel in suspend)
[04:32] <IdleOne> jack5463: you can't from the live cd. take a look at !usb
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> jack5463, usb drive instead with persistance would do what you wanted, from CD there is no method to save (except to an external USB or HD)
[04:32] <scunizi> Renatus1: it'll give you other "restricted" formats as well.
[04:33] <AnotherNewbie219> scunizi, any idea about troubleshootin wifi issues
[04:33] <Renatus1> why are they restricted?
[04:33] <AnotherNewbie219> any experts in here on that
[04:33] <jack5463> can i use both cd and usb drive?
[04:33] <jiohdi> is there a channel for UNR?
[04:33] <AnotherNewbie219> what is UNR?
[04:33] <scunizi> Renatus1: they are not totally free.. and may have some copywrite restrictions in some countries..
[04:33] <Maz3Mike> never mind..this account isn't in the sudoers file
[04:33] <IdleOne> !usb | jack5463
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, you're in it :)
[04:34] <jiohdi> UNR= Ubuntu netbook remix
[04:34] <IdleOne> jack5463: this is what you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[04:34] <scunizi> AnotherNewbie219: sorry.. I've always made a point of getting equipment that "just works".. even my Dell I had them upgrade the wireless and graphics cards to easily funtional mfgrs.
[04:34] <jiohdi> anyone know how to set the screen saver on UNR, there is no gui for it
[04:35] <AnotherNewbie219> ok
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, in a terminal run "gnome-screensaver-preferences"
[04:35] <hsa2> huh
[04:35] <hsa2> i am trying to set postfix + dovecot for a mailserver
[04:36] <crazy2be> hello
[04:36] <hsa2> i can send mail but when i try to send mail from my other mail, it says Relay access denied
[04:36] <AnotherNewbie219> so there is no fix for a Intel card on 9.10
[04:36] <AnotherNewbie219> why doesn't the OS check for this on install?
[04:36] <AnotherNewbie219> I mean compatibility issue
[04:36] <scunizi> AnotherNewbie219: intel wireless? what version.. I'll google and see
[04:36] <maco> AnotherNewbie219: thats kinda the point of the live cd..for you to check before installing
[04:37] <crazy2be> intel card works fine for me
[04:37] <crazy2be> intel graphics and wireless
[04:37] <crazy2be> what laptop and wireless card?
[04:37] <AnotherNewbie219> Intel (R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> AnotherNewbie219, just checking - but you have plugged a cable in and done all available updates then recheck Hardware Drivers correct?
[04:37] <maco> AnotherNewbie219: and yeah, intel 3945 and 4965 both work fine for me
[04:37] <scunizi> AnotherNewbie219: talk to crazy2be .. he's got his working
[04:37] <AnotherNewbie219> I had iwl3945 module loaded
[04:37] <AnotherNewbie219> ok
[04:37] <jiohdi> ZykoticK9: that seemed to work, however it was not set to screen saver, yet after 5-10 idle min. the screen was blanking
[04:37] <prospero977> Anyone out there got a bar code scanner on 'em? http://www.imakmud.com/scanme.odf
[04:38] <Bwaah> The requested URL /scanme.odf was not found on this server.
[04:39] <prospero977> 10-4 thanks
[04:39] <crazy2be> here's my question
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, also check "gnome-power-preferences"
[04:39] <crazy2be> what programs are there out there that can make me a slideshow of my pictures with decent transitions?
[04:40] <Dr-Digi> yesterday i got some help with dual boot, xp pro was installed first then ubuntu i was told i need to boot off my xp cd and fix the MBR, i just done so, fixmbr and it still dont boot
[04:40] <jiohdi> ZykoticK9: it was not shutting anything down... the screen just goes blank... but stays active sort of...
[04:40] <scunizi> crazy2be: probably either kdenlive or LiVeS.. lives is available off getdeb.net
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, either the screensave is set to blank screen, or power management is set to blank screen - either would have very similar outcomes
[04:41] <Guest24147> Hello!  Does clamav have a progress bar or some way to know how far along it is?
[04:41] <jiohdi> ZykoticK9: since neither of them seems set, any other way to adjust the settings?
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, not that I'm aware of...  good luck man.
[04:41] <wrapster> how do i check for all the drivers providied by a pkg?
[04:42] <ken08> I downloaded Realplayer, what are the steps to install it ?
[04:42] <jiohdi> ZykoticK9: thanks anyways... do you have a netbook?
[04:42] <Guest24147> anyone here used clamav to scan a windows computer?
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> jiohdi, ya the EEE 701, but the 8GB model (old by todays standards)
[04:43] <Renatus1> okay so even after i installed all those restricted formats, firefox always crashes when theres a flash plugin
[04:43] <jiohdi> ZykoticK9: I am using it with great success other than the screensaver... on an acer revo nettop
[04:43] <prospero977> Bar code scanner test anyone: http://www.imakmud.com/scanme.odt
[04:43] <scunizi> Renatus1: did you do an upgrade of your system from one release to anther?
[04:44] <prospero977> Gonna put that outside my door at work.
[04:44] <Renatus1> no i've recently installed ubuntu 9.1
[04:44] <Guest24147> anyone here used clamav to scan a windows computer?
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | Guest24147
[04:44] <scunizi> Renatus1: do you also have either gnash or the flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[04:45] <Renatus1> no
[04:45] <web1109> so my laptop is setup to suspend after 20 minutes of inactivity. Can I further set it to transition to hibernate after 2hrs? Will it auto transition to hibernate when battery get low? (my puter eats some whiel in suspend)
[04:45] <Dr-Digi> ZykoticK9, happen to know the dual boot trigger so i can go read again?
[04:45] <Voss> renatus, go to the adobe.com and get flash from there
[04:45] <crazy2be> Guest24147, running it from terminal?
[04:45] <Guest24147> crazy2be: yes - from the systemrescue cd
[04:45] <maco> web1109: few laptops have support for hybrid suspend at all (in hardware) and support for it in linux is shaky at best :-/
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> !dualboot > Dr-Digi
[04:46] <Renatus1> yeah i cant because firefox just crashes
[04:46] <scunizi> Renatus1: might be worth checking.. open System>Admin>Synaptic Package Manager and use the search bar by entering flash.. look at all the packages that show up and you'll be able to tell if one of them or both are installed. if so uninstall
[04:46] <maco> web1109: if you know that your hardware supports it, i bet there are folks that'd be interested in your help with testing though
[04:47] <web1109> maco: i thought hybrid was when it always writes the hiberfil file and just timed out the suspend, no?
[04:47] <web1109> maco: do you mean that different hardware may or may not keep track of time while in suspend?
[04:47] <Renatus1> okay, i uninstalled it
[04:48] <scunizi> Renatus1: which one?
[04:48] <maco> web1109: hmmm? im not sure what you mean. i just know that suspend2ram followed by "oops getting low" and switching to suspend2disk is hybrid and not supported by much hardware
[04:48] <Renatus1> flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <scunizi> Renatus1: good.. close FF and open again.. then test
[04:48] <Dr-Digi> i think i just about done every single step without ever reading any of it, and then done it following the guide and still no luck damnit
[04:48] <maco> web1109: i know it *is* possible in linux to tell the computer to wake up after a certain amount of time (again, depending on how well your hardware is supported) and i suppose you could script it to then suspend to disk (hibernate) after that...
[04:49] <Renatus1> okay, there we go
[04:49] <web1109> maco: hmm exactly the scenario that worked million time across many xp machines since circa 2003... for me
[04:49] <maco> web1109: however there is no nice graphical way to do this
[04:49] <scunizi> Renatus1: Viola!
[04:49] <Renatus1> so should i install it from adobe.com now?
[04:49] <Dr-Digi> its been a long day fixing all my clients issues and i come home to my own... i just want to go to bed
[04:49] <maco> web1109: on xp was it "wake up after $time and hibernate" or "wake up when you get low and hibernate"?
[04:49] <scunizi> Renatus1: nope.. already done.. you did that with the ubuntu-restricted-extras.. the easiest way :)
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> Renatus1, i know this is probably bordering on blaspheme in this channel, but you might want to checkout Google Chrome (I didn't initially like it, but have come to LOVE it - much fewer problems with FF)
[04:50] <Renatus1> ah okay, i love google chrome, i have it installed, but it wont even launch
[04:50] <web1109> maco: it was timed
[04:50] <jschall> how can i completely remove gnome and all of its default programs?
[04:50] <web1109> maco: so suspend after 15 minutes of inactivity, then it would transition to hibernate after 2hrs
[04:50] <maco> web1109: oh ok. yeah that is supported assuming your hardware doesnt hate linux, however there's not an easy way to do it
[04:50] <jschall> how can i completely remove gnome and all of its default programs? i want to switch to kde entirely
[04:50] <IdleOne> jschall: and keep only kde?
[04:50] <confussedd> off topic: whats a good channel for web development?
[04:50] <jschall> IdleOne: yeah
[04:50] <pupusercb9bd8> Hello
[04:51] <scunizi> !purekde | jschall
[04:51] <IdleOne> !purekde | jschall
[04:51] <Guest24147> how long would you think it would take to run clamscan on a 350 GB harddrive (Pentium 4)
[04:51] <web1109> maco: so the timer way is more common? is there actually hardware that while in suspend could sense low battery and wake up to hibernate?
[04:51] <maco> web1109: i only know that its possible to tell it to wake up after a certain amount of time because there wasa bunch of suspend testing a while back where the test script did that
[04:51] <scunizi> IdleOne: beat you to it :)
[04:51] <IdleOne> scunizi: team work :)
[04:51] <maco> web1109: yes, there is hardware that could sense low battery and switch to hibernate. thats what i thought you were asking about. it's not common hardware
[04:51] <doofy_> I'm trying to install on my macbook pro... I want to install over the network. I created a small partition that I could boot from, but I don't know what files need to go on the partition to start the install process
[04:51] <pupusercb9bd8> I need help installin my soundcard in Ubuntu 9.10, anyone willing to help?
[04:51] <jschall> thanks
[04:52] <IdleOne> jschall: welcome
[04:53] <scunizi> IdleOne: now that's teamwork lol ..
[04:53] <web1109> maco: thanks for clearing this up for me =] So should I just set sleep_type_battery to hiberate?
[04:53] <maco> web1109: i dont know how to do it, but this was the test script and it does it in there somewhere: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/suspend-resume/test-suspend
[04:54] <Renatus1> so how do i find the ssid for my wireless network?
[04:54] <maco> web1109: so, theoretically, you could write a script that sets an alarm an then suspends and then resumes after a while then hibernates ... and use that instead of a normal call to "pm-suspend"
[04:54] <maco> web1109: this sounds like the sort of thing i should try ^_^
[04:54] <web1109> maco: thanks for the link, I'm glad to know there is interest towards this functionality. On this system though I wanna keep it stock & configure via gui
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> Renatus1, ssid = wireless network name, you could find it on the router setup, or browse for it if it's being broadcast
[04:55] <web1109> maco: yeah hibernate on inactivity works great, except now I need to choose a good time compromise, so it doesn't go to hibernate too soon, yet so I don't often wait for it to unhibernate
[04:56] <sdwrage> is there something similar to system-config-display for ubuntu?
[04:56] <razertek> Renatus1: go to your browser and type http://192.168.1.1
[04:56] <Roasted> hey guys - I'm on a livecd trying to use the partitioner to extend my home directory through 80gb of unallocated data, but I can't seem to select it. Would anybody know why?
[04:57] <Maz3Mike> Anybody a genious with IPTABLES?
[04:57] <web1109> maco: I think of running a test to see how long it would keep the charge on suspend, but I don't want to risk it just shutting off without clean shutdown... so I'm gonna have to go with hibernate it seems
[04:58] <IdleOne> Roasted: is the unmounted?
[04:58] <x_or> Does anyone know how to install something (perhaps using ivman) so that when a cdrom is inserted a script is run?  I need to do this from command line, so don't want it to be in a gnome file or something.
[04:58] <Roasted> IdleOne, yes.
[04:58] <Roasted> IdleOne, it started with 2 unallocated partitions. I couldnt understand why they werent grouped together.
[04:58] <maco> web1109: you can extrapolate... my laptop used to reach 50% after 6 hours, so i knew it was 12hr max suspend time. (it now has a 24hr suspend time, yay)
[04:59] <Roasted> IdleOne, I expanded through the first unallocated partition which was only 7gb. but it wont take on the 2nd one @ 80gb.
[04:59] <scunizi> Roasted: if they are unallocated and contingent (next to each other) how about just deleting them and creating one large one.?
[05:00] <web1109> maco: ah nice tip to find out the limits. But then I'd have to remember to wake&hibernate or plug it in =]
[05:00] <IdleOne> scunizi: after resizing doesn't gparted auto mount the partition?
[05:00] <Roasted> scunizi, because I have data in my home partition.... I need the home partition to take over the rest of the drive thats unallocated.
[05:00] <iflema> web1109 have you a setting for what to do when battery critically low in power managment...  set that and the do ya test...
[05:01] <scunizi> IdleOne: no. not unless you tell it to
[05:01] <scunizi> Roasted: ok.. perhaps deleting the empty one then try to increase the size of the other
[05:01] <Roasted> scunizi, the empty one is deleted. its unallocated.
[05:02] <mrbob> hello this will only take one min of your time and will allow me to get access to the greatest electronic music library just click and close thanks! http://0day.musicore.net/?release=2567
[05:02] <IdleOne> Roasted: unallocated doesn't mean it's gone
[05:02] <maco> web1109: what i do with mine is that if i shut the lid while unplugged, it'll suspend but if it turns off due to low battery, it'll hibernate. i figure i'll only be shutting the lid if i'm shoving it in a backpack or leaving it alone for a while, so...
[05:02] <IdleOne> Roasted: delete the unallocated partition then resize your /home
[05:02] <scunizi> Roasted: ah.. I misunderstood.. then let's do the reverse.. format it with the same filesystem as /home.. and *then* stretch /home
[05:02] <Roasted> IdleOne, I did delete it. Theres no deleting. The only option I have is to create new. It's gone.
[05:02] <Fezzler> how do I stop pulseaudio so I can use Jack?
[05:02] <web1109> iflema: as I currently understand, karmic would only go to hibernate if the sytem is not suspended. And I don't want it to just power off uncleanly when battery dies on suspend
[05:03] <IdleOne> Roasted: ahh ok. try what scunizi just suggested
[05:03] <wolter> Fezzler, [# chmod -x /usr/bin/pulseaudio]
[05:03] <wolter> Fezzler, then use jack
[05:03] <MK13> how can i make a program that accesses the keyring have to ask for permission again after choosing "Always Allow"?
[05:03] <barcode> i used "ubuntu image writer" and it messed up my dads usb drive :/
[05:03] <barcode> how do i turn it back to normal :(
[05:03] <wolter> then [# chmod +x /usr/bin/pulseaudio] to let pulseaudio run again (thats what chmod +/- x does)
[05:03] <web1109> maco: your last comment creeped confusion back into my head, I thought I had it...
[05:03] <usser> web1109, does it die uncleanly, it was my experience that it would come back from suspend then shutdown normally
[05:03] <maco> barcode: messed up?  all it would've done is erase what's on it and install ubuntu on it instead...
[05:04] <Fezzler> wolter>> huge latency with pusleaudio in jack
[05:04] <maco> barcode: just format it to erase ubuntu...
[05:04] <barcode> i burnt a image file on it
[05:04] <Roasted> scunizi, no dice. In fact, once I created the new EXT4 partiion, its weird. its kind of lined up differently than swap/root/home.
[05:04] <barcode> and it make 3 different partitions
[05:04] <Roasted> scunizi, is that a red flag its a different type?
[05:04] <Fezzler> wolter>> I have jack running
[05:04] <barcode> i burnt chrome os on it
[05:04] <maco> web1109: er, i dont use gnome. you might not have such options...
[05:04] <web1109> usser: I'm afraid to test if it dies uncleanly!
[05:04] <wolter> Fezzler, so, whats wrong with the commands i told you to run?
[05:04] <iflema> web1109 go on... happens to me during storms all the time... sudden blackouts that is...
[05:04] <maco> web1109: but in kde, i can have a "if i shut the lid while unplugged:  suspend" and "if it is on and unplugged and the battery gets really low: hibernate"
[05:05] <scunizi> Roasted: is /home also ext4? and by lined up differently ..how do you mean?
[05:05] <web1109> maco: but what about "if it's in suspend and battery gets low"
[05:05] <Roasted> scunizi, I mean physically, on the left side where it says /dev/sda*, its lined up differently.
[05:05] <mrbob> hello this will only take one min of your time and will allow me to get access to the greatest electronic music library just click and close thanks! http://0day.musicore.net/?release=2567 I NEED 100 HITS
[05:06] <maco> web1109: no, no option for that. though now i'm thinking i'll try (ahem, keyword) to implement such a feature for 10.10
[05:06] <Roasted> scunizi, let me try and type up in pastebin how it looks to me, 1 second bro.
[05:06] <barcode> i need help :/
[05:06] <barcode> i tried reformating the flash drive
[05:06] <barcode> but i cant erase the stuff
[05:06] <scunizi> Roasted: you can screenshot it. and paste that.
[05:06] <maco> web1109: er, i mean to implement the timer based one, not the battery level one
[05:06] <maco> web1109: the battery level one requires hardware that supports that and thats not common
[05:06] <Roasted> scunizi, Im not on that computer. Im almost done typing it, 1 sec
[05:07] <scunizi> Roasted:k
[05:07] <web1109> maco: oh you are a developer. nice, very good to see you interested in this function!
[05:07] <web1109> maco: yeah timer based is sufficient
[05:07] <maco> web1109: oh yes i was wishing i had hardware that could do the battery based one. what you're saying sounds like the perfect way to fake it!
[05:07] <Roasted> scunizi, http://pastebin.com/m7cbb7484
[05:07] <Roasted> scunizi, sda3 is the problematic one. I want it to merge with sda7.
[05:08] <Renatus1> Why do I have to add accounts everytime I restart pidgin?
[05:08] <web1109> <-- confused again, fake what?
[05:08] <Fezzler> wolter>> didn't work
[05:08] <Fezzler> wolter>> even closed jack and ardour and restarted
[05:09] <maco> web1109: since most hardware cant do battery-based, timer-based seems like a good way to get a similar effect for people with normal hardware
[05:09] <barcode> my flashdrive: http://pastebin.com/m6d3c45ff :(
[05:09] <maco> web1109: so you just gave me a way to get what i want :)
[05:09] <web1109> maco: ok, i understand.
[05:09] <wolter> Fezzler, but is pulseaudio keep running? you have to [$ pkill pulseaudio] after you run the first command, but i thought you knew that
[05:09] <wolter> Fezzler, when you finish you do the chmod +x command
[05:10] <scunizi> Roasted: I see that.. I think what the issue is, is that sda3 is a primary partition and sda7 which is /home is inside an extended partition.. the 2 are mutually exclusive.. how large is sda7?
[05:10] <Roasted> scunizi, sda7 is 105gb
[05:10] <F223> how do I install a theme into compiz?
[05:11] <Fezzler> missing operand
[05:11] <Roasted> scunizi, what happened was I had a 160gb hdd and my boss got me a 250gb hdd. Using a DD cloner at work, I just cloned them, which dumped 160's contents + partitions on the 250 as-is, leaving the 83-ishgb unallocated at the end. I assumed I could just use gparted to extend /home accordingly.
[05:11] <bucket529> Using Xubuntu 9.10, I changed the resolution of one user, and now that user cannot log in - GDM keeps restarting. Other users can log in just fine. How can I change the resolution for that user back to a good setting?
[05:11] <scunizi> Roasted: well to make it work you're going to have to delete the sda3 partition and then create it in the Extended partition..
[05:11] <web1109> maco: well now I understand the current limitations and will look forward to future release. And currently I'll user the hibernate on inactivity, not big deal, compared to that before karmic it would hibernate =]
[05:12] <Roasted> scunizi, deleting sda3 isnt a problem. What do I need to do exactly? delete sda7 + sda3 and create 1 large one?
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> F223, compiz doesn't really use themes.  are you talking about Emerald?  what theme is it?
[05:13] <sceo1> in Karmic, how can I force to boot with a safe resolution?  just plugged in a new LCD TV and by the time gnome/gdm starts it just says "Unsupported" on my blue screen.  It works in CLI just fine.
[05:13] <F223> ah, got it working :)
[05:13] <F223> had to DL emerald
[05:13] <web1109> maco: err I meant before karmic I had more troubles on battery.
[05:14] <scunizi> Roasted: no.. delete sda3.  It is currently a primary partition.. with that space available you'll need to use it to create another partition in the Extended portion of the drive..
[05:14] <F223> hmmmm... I'm enabling the theme by doing "emerald --replace", do I have to keep that terminal window open all the time for the theme to stay eneabled?
[05:15] <F223> enabled*
[05:15] <Roasted> scunizi, not entirely sure I know how to do that... Im a little lost by what you mean "create it within the extended portion of the drive"
[05:15] <Roasted> scunizi, do I just need to have sda2 highlighted when I create it , or what?
[05:16] <scunizi> Roasted: look at your pastebin.. you'll see sda1 is the widows side.. then sda2 is labeled "Extended".. inside of that is Swap, sda6 and sda7
[05:16] <Renatus1> How do i find the BSSID of my router
[05:17] <scunizi> Roasted: Extended partitions get around the 4 primary partiton limitation of harddrives
[05:17] <rj1> ok while working with my sansa fuze I tried to get it to work with banshee in MTP, wasnt working so I just said forget it and used MSC. I now have TWO problems. One: It shows two devices whenever I plug in my sansa, Two: I accidentally told it to automagically open banshee whenever it is plugged in. where do I change that?
[05:17] <goose> I'm trying to generate a 10000 bit RSA key, but I think my /dev/random has dried up..how can I replenish it?
[05:18] <seede> hi all! im trying to use rlwrap to get around the missing ctrl-R, history readline functionality missing from mysql by using rlwrap -a mysql
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> rj1, re banshee-auto opening -- open Nautilus (the file manager), Edit / Preferences - Media tab -- Music Player
[05:18] <Roasted> scunizi, I dont understand entirely. If I create a new partition, I HAVE to create a primary one - extended is not an option. But youre saying I have to create it within sda2... but I dont understand how I force the partition Im maknig to be under sda2 when the only option I have is primary.
[05:19] <DVS01> seede, how would you feel about using /dev/urandom?
[05:19] <seede> but when i ctrl or type up to view history it looks like "use\040foo;" or "show\040databases" anyone know why the whitespaces are being replaced with \040?
[05:19] <semitones> Why doesn't ubuntu use a real time kernel by default?
[05:19] <scunizi> Roasted: hummm.. let me look at my version of gparted
[05:19] <James_-_> COuld someone offer up some recommendations as to the best partitioning plan if I plan to have some type of scheduled backup to a external or network drive... What I mean is what do I want on separate partitions so that reinstatement will be much easier?
[05:20] <katyl> semitones: It's unstable, there is a chance that two processes could try to manipulate the same data at the same time and cause instability.
[05:20] <DVS01> James_-_: you may want to separate /home
[05:20] <ouyes> hi everyone
[05:21] <Topy44> i want to build a few packages from source on my rather limited netbook. i do not want to permanently install all the build requirements on it. is there a nice and simple way to sandbox all of it?
[05:21] <semitones> katyl: hmm, ok. Why is it used in Ubuntu Studio then?
[05:21] <ouyes> how to restart the wireless connection afer kill some wireless processes(for some testing)
[05:22] <Flannel> semitones: realtime kernels don't perform the way most people want a computer to perform
[05:22] <James_-_> DVS01 yea I was thinking /home was a given... but where would other user controlled or defined setting and such be stored that I would want to have restored quickly if things went bad
[05:22] <semitones> katyl: Flannel: it was something about low latency that I don't understand
[05:22] <DVS01> James_-_: /etc holds a lot of settings
[05:22] <James_-_> ok thanks
[05:22] <DVS01> /usr/local/ perhaps, depending on what you got installed
[05:23] <DVS01> you have to get a bit more acquainted with what exactly you're trying to accomplish though
[05:23] <scunizi> Roasted: ok.. not sure if this will work but you may have to actually extend/stretch the Extended partition first after deleting sda3.. if that works then extend sda7 from inside the extended partition.
[05:24] <Roasted> scunizi, youre suggesting to extend sda2, not sda7?
[05:24] <James_-_> DVS01 ok, my goal is to build a dream desktop... just want to get a good game plan going, I have 4 linux servers and a few other linux boxes most all Ubuntu... tonight is the start of a new desktop workstation for my home office
[05:25] <scunizi> Roasted: yes as the first step.. because sda7 is actually inside the sda2 container.. if that makes sense.
[05:25] <Roasted> scunizi, I hereby declare you, sir, a genius.
[05:25] <scunizi> Roasted: process of elimination.. is it working?
[05:25] <Roasted> scunizi, Once I expanded sda2, I was able to apply the space to sda7.
[05:26] <Roasted> scunizi, yeah, 2/3 steps done
[05:26] <scunizi> Roasted: YEA!
[05:26] <Roasted> done, rebooting
[05:26] <Roasted> scunizi, youre the man. thanks a lot. saved me a lot of headache.
[05:27] <scunizi> Roasted: took a while but it's something I won't forget :).. glad to help
[05:27] <iflema> james_-_ put all 4 of ya servers on a vm and save on the power bills :)
[05:27] <lucky44> Hi!
[05:27] <ShapeShifter499> I got a few questions about the, ruby, python, and java packages found on cydia
[05:28] <ShapeShifter499> oops
[05:28] <ShapeShifter499> my bad
[05:28] <ShapeShifter499> wrong channel
[05:28] <sdwrage> Hey guys, I am trying to get into display settings and all I get is this message: http://pastium.org/view/bd774f4e0fcc6e60e568ccebbb2df646
[05:28] <sdwrage> I am using vmware
[05:28] <ShapeShifter499> *facepalms*
[05:29] <HelloThere> Ohi there
[05:29] <seede> so no one knows why rlwrap might change whitespace into "\040" ?
[05:29] <sdwrage> vmware player rather
[05:29] <scunizi> sdwrage: and this error is from the guest OS ??
[05:30] <Renatus> Okay, so I'm about to uninstall ubuntu just because it wont save my WEP key!!!!!
[05:30] <HelloThere> How um... do I join a wireless network on a freash install
[05:30] <scunizi> sdwrage: you're probably better off asking in #vmware
[05:30] <HelloThere> I am new to ubuntu
[05:30] <niaka> hi, i have a problem when booting from the 9.10 64 bit installer cd. I can move the marker up and down, but nothing happens if i press enter on "Install Ubuntu" and "Try to install without any changes". Only choice that works is boot from first harddrive. Anyyone know what this can be? Tried searching but it's a bit hard to define in search.
[05:30] <scunizi> Renatus: wep is pretty horrible anyway.. have you tried wpa?
[05:30] <ouyes> Renatus,  how , it works fine for me
[05:31] <sdwrage> scunizi, yes
[05:31] <keepsake> Wine and playonlinux works for me, but whenever I install an app it says that it cannot be configured: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3b89b0cf. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:31] <Renatus> i have to manually enter the wep key every time i log on or off, it just wont save it in the network manager
[05:32] <ouyes> Renatus, after making a success connection, the system will connect to the original AP automatically next time
[05:33] <ouyes> Renatus, make sure the wired line is cut off'
[05:33] <Renatus> But it doesnt! I have to lookup the wireless networks, click on mine, and enter the 26 digit wep key each time, and the only wire plugged in is the power cable right now
[05:33] <iflema> niaka have you tried
[05:33] <ouyes> Renatus, do not use WEP,  it is so  risk
[05:33] <scunizi> Renatus: I think what he means is to disable "wired" in ubuntu's connection manager
[05:34] <chipgeri> how do i install php 5.2.10?
[05:34] <Renatus> okay
[05:34] <sdwrage> scunizi, know what it could be?
[05:34] <Renatus> and I have no choice but to use WEP because my dad has the network set up the way he wants it
[05:34] <HelloThere> wait this seems relevent to what I need to know!
[05:34] <HelloThere> Hello there, completely new user to ubuntu
[05:35] <HelloThere> is there a way to get the like.. wireless network thing to show up like it does on windows?
[05:35] <ouyes> scunizi, you can change it anyway , it is not safe mate
[05:35] <HelloThere> like.. networks' names and their associated security
[05:35] <scunizi> Renatus: suggest this to your dad.. you'd be better off turning wep off, turn off ssid broadcast and limit wireless connections to MAC addresses you manually enter in the router
[05:35] <scunizi> sdwrage: #vmware
[05:36] <Renatus> but then at my university they use WEP keys soooo i dont think i could convince them that
[05:36] <scunizi> Renatus: then show him this post to convince him.. http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/using-ubuntu-to-crack-wep/
[05:36] <ouyes> Renatus,  scunizi ,you just need to use wpa2, never wep , it can be cracked in less than one minute
[05:37] <keepsake> That's provided someone would be bored enough to try to hack the network =P
[05:37] <scunizi> ouyes: I'm aware of that.. looks like Renatus 's university isn't
[05:37] <HelloThere> So, there isn't a way I take it?
[05:37] <Renatus> Okay, well I know that wpa is better, but theres still the question of why wont it save the key?
[05:38] <ouyes> scunizi, renatus's university?it is none of its bussiness
[05:38] <web1109> Renatus: have you changed your login password? in Jaunty I changed my login (sudo) password and that caused problems with keyring
[05:39] <scunizi> Renatus: maybe this will help http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux/
[05:39] <Renatus> no, its been the same, but i do have an error that comes up about ICEauthority
[05:39] <ouyes> Renatus,  frankly, i have no idea, maybe you just had bad luck
[05:39] <Flannel> seede: is that \040 (octal?) or 0x40 (hex)?
[05:39] <Renatus> haha okay, well thanks anyways
[05:40] <web1109> Renatus: does it remember you schools key?
[05:40] <usser> Renatus, its probably not wep that they use, rather dynamic wep with RADIUS authentication, its much more secure than wep or wpa
[05:40] <Renatus> well, I dont know, I installed ubuntu today but I'll be able to see tomorrow
[05:41] <iflema> HelloThere click once on the end to end maracas near the clock it looks like two ends plugged together
[05:41] <ouyes> Renatus,  which version of ubuntu ?
[05:41] <Renatus> 9.1
[05:41] <perscitus> Why isnt Sharing Options showing up in contextual menu in nautilus. nautilus-share is installed
[05:41] <ouyes> Renatus, is it a regular release?
[05:41] <tolpico> I modified a panel to autohide on right side. It seems to be gone forever. Its not popping back. Is there a shortcut or way to show all panels?
[05:42] <Renatus> I d/led it from the website and burned it onto a CD
[05:42] <perscitus> Renatus.->  it's 9.10
[05:42] <ouyes> Renatus, 9.1 you sure?
[05:42] <Renatus> 9.10
[05:42] <HelloThere> wait what, iflema?
[05:43] <web1109> Renatus: when you connected to you home wifi, did it just ask you for wifi key or also for sudo password?
[05:43] <Rubyiris> I'm having problems registering SHDOCVW.DLL. I get the error message err:module:find_forwarded_export function not found for forward 'shlwapi.SHOpenRegStreamA' used by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\shell32.dll". If you are using builtin L"shell32.dll", try using the native one instead.
[05:43] <perscitus> Renatus.->  Ubuntu version system is Year.month of the release date
[05:43] <Rubyiris> wine: Call from 0x71520d78 to unimplemented function SHLWAPI.dll.437, aborting
[05:43] <Rubyiris> fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosErrorNoTeb no mapping for 80000100
[05:43] <Rubyiris> Failed to load DLL .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/SHDOCVW.DLL
[05:43] <Random832> 9.10 = 'nine point ten'. the ten means october
[05:43] <FloodBot1> Rubyiris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <Renatus> only the WEP key, no sudo pass
[05:43] <matu> my life changed since i deleted windows, i stopped to deal with virus, system crash and unknown error messages
[05:44] <keepsake> tolpico: Alt+F2 -> "gconf-editor" -> apps -> panel -> toplevels
[05:44] <keepsake> tolpico: Fool around with the settings and see if you can figure it out.
[05:44] <perscitus> Rubyiris.->  First, use WINE Repository and not Ubuntu one. Then goto #winehq.
[05:44] <Rubyiris> ?
[05:45] <ouyes> hei , does anyone know how to restart the wireless connection after killing all the process related to wireless?
[05:45] <perscitus> Rubyiris.->  WInehq website far more updated version then one in ubuntu repository.
[05:45] <Rubyiris> wwhats a repository.
[05:45] <onetinsoldier> Rubyiris: seems like you'd be better off putting all that in the #wine channel
[05:45] <keepsake> The #wine channel is pretty chirpy usually
[05:45] <perscitus> onetinsoldier.->  #winehq
[05:45] <ouyes> scunizi, the website you give about cracking the wep in ubuntu is out of date
[05:46] <onetinsoldier> perscitus: ahh, thanks
[05:46] <tolpico> keepsake, thanks, unchecking autohide on panels_'s did the job. Seems there are lots of settings to modify here.
[05:46] <keepsake> tolpico: Yup, it's best to fool around and learn about ubuntu =P
[05:46] <scunizi> ouyes: yes.. but the concept is what I was trying to get across.. cracking web has been around for some time
[05:46] <web1109> ouyes: do you still have the network icon in top panel?
[05:46] <Renatus> Hm, so this is the error im getting when i click reload on synaptic, "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5"
[05:46] <onetinsoldier> Rubyiris: try join the #winehq channel ;)
[05:46] <perscitus> Why isnt Sharing Options showing up in contextual menu in nautilus. nautilus-share is installed
[05:47] <nvme> when you use an ssh tunnel does it send all your traffic through the remote server /
[05:47] <scunizi> perscitus: if you just installed log out and back in again
[05:47] <keepsake> Renatus: The keyring is broken
[05:47] <perscitus> scunizi.->  Doesnt matter.
[05:47] <Renatus> What do you suggest I do than?
[05:47] <ouyes> web1109, yes after kill some process related to the wireless, i have the icon, but there is no ap found
[05:48] <tato42> try alt-f2 nm-applet
[05:48] <seede> Flannel: I'm not sure whether that is octal or hex, the literal string I have looks like "show\040tables;" so I guess octal
[05:48] <web1109> ouyes: rightclickin on that icon - are there two checkboxes for wired and wireless?
[05:48] <matu> 1185 people '^^
[05:48] <keepsake> Renatus: Give me one second to paste the command.
[05:49] <ouyes> scunizi,  the latest can be found in the website aircrack-ng.org, it warns all of us wep is risky
[05:49] <keepsake> Renatus: In terminal: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 4E5E17B5, and then gpg --export --armor 4E5E17B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[05:49] <Guest41731> does anyone know how to prevent a mitm attack on ssl on local lan?
[05:49] <guest3234> anyone familiar with initramfs hooks and cryptsetup?
[05:49] <ouyes> web1109, no just one ,writes "enable networking"
[05:50] <guest3234> perhaps i should try a different approach.
[05:50] <web1109> ouyes: while usualy it has both wired and wireless, right? you on karmic?
[05:51] <guest3234> help, i'm not prompted for my luks passphrase at boot and nothing i've done has fixed it.
[05:51] <ziroday> Guest41731: check the certificate
[05:51] <perscitus> scunizi.->  I opened nautilus then killall nautilus. works  now
[05:51] <ouyes> web1109, yes as usual, but my situation is not as usual, i am on 9.04.
[05:51] <scunizi> perscitus: that works :)
[05:51] <Renatus1> So how can I fix my keyring?
[05:51]  * citbun is away (disconnecting...)
[05:51] <perscitus> What do I install to share files between Ubuntu installs?
[05:52] <web1109> ouyes: i dunno, maybe try killing the applet process and then restart it
[05:52] <iflema> Gest41731 local lan as in private not public.
[05:52] <keepsake> Renatus1: In terminal: "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 4E5E17B5", and then "gpg --export --armor 4E5E17B5 | sudo apt-key add -"
[05:52] <Guest41731> you can setup a local deb ftp or u can do a ssh to the other systems or u can rsync
[05:52] <clicker4721> perscitus: You can use Ubuntu One or some sort of backup/sync client
[05:52] <Guest41731> to share files
[05:53] <Guest41731> u can tar up anitying and transfer it via ssh/sftp
[05:53] <Renatus1> it says permission denied
[05:53] <nvme> when you use an ssh tunnel does it send all your traffic through the remote server ?????/
[05:53] <Guest41731> or just plain ftp
[05:53] <clicker4721> Renatus1: What's wrong with it?
[05:53] <keepsake> Renatus1: Sudo all of it
[05:53] <Guest41731> nope
[05:53] <perscitus> clicker4721.->  No and no
[05:53] <web1109> ouyes: nm-applet would be the command to start it again
[05:53] <Renatus1> oh, thought i did heh
[05:53] <clicker4721> perscitus: Does that mean you've already tried them both?
[05:54] <perscitus> clicker4721.-> They arent options
[05:54] <ouyes> web1101a,  i use the command "kill PID" to kill some process, what is the command to start some process?
[05:54] <keepsake> Sharing files between ubuntu installs is done easiest just by... copy/pasting
[05:54] <keepsake> D=
[05:54] <clicker4721> perscitus: Then you're screwed. Unless you have one of those fancy USB/FireWire sync gizmos.
[05:55] <perscitus> clicker4721.->  And you probably dont know how then
[05:55] <ouyes> how to show the running processes's pid in the terminal
[05:55] <web1109> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager, alt-f2 then type    nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:55] <guest3234> okay, i really don't know how to describe the problem i'm having in detail in a short sentence. the best way i can say it is that the initramfs image is no longer hooking the script that prompts me to mount my luks partition at boot which throws me into a busybox shell letting me know the root device can't be found.
[05:55] <keepsake> ouyes: top
[05:56] <web1109> ouyes: ps -ef
[05:56] <guest3234> that being said, it'd be great if someone in here could help me.
[05:56] <clicker4721> guest3235: Re-install. Unless you've already done a lot of stuff, it's free anyway. Just copy off your most important files and re-install.
[05:56] <perscitus> iosiris3316
[05:56] <onetinsoldier> ouyes: or another command would be like --> ps aux
[05:56] <guest3234> Must I?
[05:56] <keepsake> ouyes, web1109, onetinsoldier: top is a little prettier =P
[05:56] <TheGreatBunghole> re-install is always an easy thing to do too =)
[05:57] <guest3234> True, but I have a lot on this system.
[05:57] <Renatus1> Thanks for all your help guys, you're super! O:-)
[05:57] <|404NotFound|> i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and i get http://pastebin.com/m64a867e8 when i try to build iso
[05:57] <guest3234> Backing up my home directory won't really cut it.
[05:57] <r4ban> i desperately need help, karmic doesn't recognize my onboard ac97 audio. i got alsa info script link if someone is interested
[05:57] <clicker4721> guest3234: Sync it off; re-install.
[05:57] <web1109> keepsake: but does it list all processes?
[05:58] <guest3234> the problem is just that the initramfs image isn't loading the cryptodisks hook at boot.
[05:58] <keepsake> web1109: Pretty sure it does.
[05:58] <ouyes> keepsake,  where?
[05:58] <guest3234> do i really need to reinstall for that.
[05:58] <keepsake> ouyes: Just type "top" in console
[05:58] <ouyes> top
[05:58] <clicker4721> guest3234: Oh, more than just home? Try, when you re-install manually partitioning it to avoid overwriting partitions #2-4 ( your /home, /usr, and /somethingelse) ) and
[05:58] <web1109> Renatus1: you solved your problem?
[05:59] <keepsake> ouyes: Yeah, "top"
[05:59] <ouyes> keepsake,  ah mate yes top
[05:59] <clicker4721> guest3234: My bad, that's all.
[05:59] <chipgeri> how to install php 5.2.10 ?
[05:59] <brian> can Itunes be used with Ubuntu -- with a youtube converter?
[05:59] <r4ban> karmic 64bit upgraded from jaunty can't play audio, here's the alsa script info: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6def1a9bf57765032a828ab6052f0d733986e931
[05:59] <ouyes> keepsake,  thank you , then how to start some process in the terminal?( i know the name of the process , since i killed them
[05:59] <guest3234> I don't have /home /usr and /something else as separate partitions.
[06:00] <guest3234> It's one giant partition.
[06:00] <guest3234> encrypted partition.
[06:00] <clicker4721> brian: If you want to take the time to set up WINE, anything will work. And a YouTube converter can just be a FireFox add-on.
[06:00] <clicker4721> guest3234: One? Did you do that manually?
[06:00] <guest3234> i can manually run cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 crypt1 while in the initramfs busybox shell, but it doesn't continue booting.
[06:00] <James_-_> ok if i have a drive that isn't mounting on boot how do i make it mount at boot?
[06:00] <guest3234> Nope, alternate installer.
[06:00] <keepsake> ouyes: Why not just type the name of the process?
[06:01] <brian> Does linux have anything not needing wine to run itunes?
[06:01] <clicker4721> guest3234: Whoa! Just left my league!
[06:01] <ouyes> keepsake,  that is it ,quite easy?
[06:01] <keepsake> ouyes: Except, append a & at the end, so for example, "firefox &" instead of "firefox"
[06:01] <clicker4721> brian: You can use a feathers on SongBird. http://www.getsongbird.com/
[06:01] <guest3234> there is a small unencrypted partition to load grub and the initramfs images, but other than that, the rest of the hard drive is encrypted.
[06:01] <keepsake> ouyes: That'll start the process in the background so you can keep using the terminal.
[06:01] <guest3234> i'm in a xubuntu livecd environment right now.
[06:02] <web1109> keepsake: wouldn't that process be terminated on closing the console widnow?
[06:02] <guest3234> i can manually mount the luks partition, it just won't prompt for my passphrase at boot anymore.
[06:02] <keepsake> web1109: I don't think so.
[06:02] <guest3234> there's a launchpad bug describing my problem, if anyone is interested.
[06:03] <iflema> brian virtualbox... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:03] <guest3234> previously made by someone else besides me.
[06:03] <clicker4721> guest3234: I don't know what to tell you...just copy off everything you can. I would re-install, but it sounds like you have much more expertise than me. Anyway, if I happened to be you I would know I was screwed and re-install.
[06:03] <nzCam> Hey guys. Trying to install unbuntu(hardy) through a netboot on my new eee-pc, but am running into troubles detecting the ethernet device. eth0/wan0 don't seem to be detected at all. Anyone had any similar issues in the past?
[06:03] <keepsake> web1109: Oh, I'm dumb, it does. Then again, if you have GUI, you'd alt+f2 or something
[06:03] <keepsake> |404NotFound|: Are you still here?
[06:03] <|404NotFound|> keepsake, yes
[06:03]  * guest3234 shrugs
[06:03] <guest3234> I guess I could do that.
[06:03] <web1109> keepsake: yeah i was gonna say alt f2
[06:03] <keepsake> |404NotFound|: I think instead of /root/karmic-server, try ~/karmic-server
[06:03] <keepsake> web1109: He wanted terminal specifically though, so =\
[06:04] <guest3234> I have a 1TB NAS, but I still don't wanna.
[06:04] <sdwrage> keepsake,  I dont know why I found you asking 404NotFound if he was there ironic
[06:04] <sdwrage> :P
[06:04] <clicker4721> guest3234: I see no other alternative. Just salvage whatever you can.
[06:04] <guest3234> ugh, i'm going to lose all the customizations I made.
[06:04] <|404NotFound|> keepsake, no use..
[06:04] <clicker4721> sdwrage: I must agree. =D
[06:04] <keepsake> sdwrage: =P I didn't notice, haha
[06:04] <ouyes>  another question, when i shutdown the laptop, there is  noise coming out ,
[06:04] <keepsake> |404NotFound|: Same error?
[06:04] <|404NotFound|> yes
[06:05] <guest3234> i spent forever getting suspend/hibernate working, amongst other things.
[06:05] <web1109> ouyes: what is the name of the process you killed?
[06:05] <keepsake> |404NotFound|: What if you set build to "karmic-server"?
[06:05] <clicker4721> guest3234: I could only get suspend to work. I gave up on hibernate. Sorry, mate...good luck.
[06:05] <TheGreatBunghole> Why does the new GDM for Karmic suck so much?!
[06:06] <ouyes> web1109, no mate , it is another issue with my t400's sound
[06:06] <crazy2be> TheGreatBunghole: it doesn't
[06:06] <ouyes> web1109,  thinkpad t400, maybe the wrong sound driver
[06:06] <TheGreatBunghole> not very easy to change themes for GDM now though...
[06:06] <clicker4721> TheGreatBunghole: If you don't like it, do what I did: search http://maketecheasier.com/ for the Mac4Lin instructions. If you do them right, you can swear to all you friends you're using a beta MacOSX. =D
[06:07] <hane> do your talk about ubuntu everytime?
[06:07] <hane> here
[06:07] <clicker4721> hane: Got a better idea on the Ubuntu channel?
[06:07] <TheGreatBunghole> clicker4721: lol I am all ubuntu, but sounds like an interesting idea
[06:07] <ouyes> hane,  most of the time
[06:07] <hane> :)
[06:07] <hane> right
[06:08] <ouyes> web1109,  get any idea?
[06:08] <hane> i just learn english and this too compilcated
[06:08] <Talon_> I've gotten a standard Ubuntu 9.10 clean install up and running, any reason why it eats over half of my available ram just being idle?
[06:08] <hane> :)
[06:08] <morphix> the point of the channel called ubuntu.. is for ubuntu talk
[06:08] <morphix> that seems as straight forward as can be
[06:08] <clicker4721> clicker4721: I, too, am all Ubuntu--I'd tried other Linux but nothing else worked. Anyway, I wanted to try a Mac anyway, so...Wha-bammie!
[06:09] <clicker4721> hane: What language do you speak natively?
[06:09] <hane> turkish
[06:09] <nzCam> Ah, tracked my error. Hardy doesn't seem to support the Atheros/Attansic ethernet devices found on most modern eee-pc's. Any suggestions on how to rectify this? Only option is networking booting at this stage.
[06:09] <keepsake> Talon_: Check what's taking up the ram. Alt+F2 and then "gnome-system-monitor"
[06:09] <web1109> ouyes: no idea on the sound driver, i must have missed your question, thought you were still on wireless problem
[06:09] <James_-_> Just got a GRUB loading Error 15  now what
[06:10] <TheGreatBunghole> Has anyone on here had a good experience with Jolicloud?
[06:10] <morphix> nzCam: hardy is pretty old now
[06:10] <clicker4721> hane: Ama Google Translate sayesinde türk, hepimiz gayet iyi geçinmek için bilmiyorum! : D
[06:10] <web1109> <--- needs to stop using an outdated irc client. I'm having trouble following all the conversatin lol
[06:10] <keepsake> James_-_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4587202&postcount=9
[06:10] <nzCam> morphix: Yeah, i plan on updating the kernel once i get it installed
[06:10] <TheGreatBunghole> nzCam: I think you should thry jolicloud =)
[06:10] <clicker4721> TheGreatBunghole: I wanted to try out Jolicloud for a little while, but I like gOS more. http://thinkgos.com/
[06:10] <nzCam> Though, i did find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[06:10] <nzCam> I'll give that a whirl.
[06:10] <hane> :) that s easy way
[06:11] <ouyes> web1109,  well, leave the wireless problem a little while , thanks
[06:11] <clicker4721> hane: So what if it's cheating, it gets the job done! :P
[06:11] <r4ban> i got an onboard audio problem: it's not listed on cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:11] <hane> :)
[06:11] <clicker4721> Man, you people have more problems than a stick in the mud!!!
[06:12] <keepsake> !ot | hane, clicker4721
[06:12] <Talon_> no one process is taking all my ram
[06:12] <web1109> clicker4721: yeah but when stuff works it's quite awesome!
[06:12] <Talon_> it's got to be all the crap it put in by default that i'd never use
[06:12] <clicker4721> keepskake: ???
[06:12] <clicker4721> ubottu: I've been sticking to Ubuntu...
[06:12] <Talon_> bluetooth?! theres bluetooth for computers? lol theres one right there
[06:12] <keepsake> Talon_: Then how do you know half of your ram is being taken up?
[06:13] <Talon_> because 500+Mib is taken up out of my 1gb
[06:13] <TheGreatBunghole> clicker4721: I think I might try gOS on my laptop... (My laptop is getting old enough that netbook hardware is starting to look equal)  ... Jolicloud worked well on my crap Acer Aspire =)
[06:13] <clicker4721> web1109: Yeah, so you go to published, proven online tutorials.
[06:13] <Talon_> it all adds up, but its divided amongst a crapload of processes
[06:13] <keepsake> Talon_: And it's not showing up in gnome-system-monitor?
[06:13] <web1109> Talon_: can you pastebin the output of    free -m
[06:14] <Talon_> yes it is, thats what i'm saying, no one application is the culperate
[06:14] <clicker4721> TheGreatBunghole: I don't have any first-hand experience mind you, just aspirations. Anyway, it's either that or the Kubuntu Netbook Remix, which is nothing at all like the UNR. You might wanna check it out, too.
[06:14] <James_-_> keepsake thanks for the link but how do i get a prompt when this happens, i have restarted twice after you gave the link and haven't found a way yet
[06:14] <keepsake> James_-_: Type "grub" in terminal.
[06:15] <keepsake> James_-_: Provided you're using grub<2
[06:15] <Talon_> soon as i start virtualbox i skyrocket from 50% to 83% memory usage and its all way too sluggish to even be effective, whats the minimum ram requirements for Ubuntu? apparently 1gb is not enough
[06:16] <iflema> TheGreatBunghole http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/releases/9.10/release/
[06:16] <TheGreatBunghole> clicker4721: Thanks, I will check those out. I haven't heard anything about Kubuntu Netbook Remix, but I will give it a shot too =D
[06:16] <James_-_> keepsake I haven't got a terminal yet, apon reboot it shows the normal what hdd are there and then dispalys "GRUB Loading stage1.5.       GRUB loading, Please wait.... Error 15
[06:16] <web1109> Talon_: Ubunut is the guest OS?
[06:16] <Talon_> no, ubuntu is the main os
[06:16] <keepsake> James_-_: Can you access recovery console?
[06:17] <keepsake> Talon_: Virtualbox takes up quite a bit of RAM, unfortunately. 1GB probably won't let you run another OS very well.
[06:17] <web1109> Talon_: what is the guest os?
[06:17] <clicker4721> TheGreatBunghole: By-the-way, not the gOS cloud, just plain gOS. And iflema is right, Moblin is another good one. However, I don't like shells that have seperate desktops and netbook presenters, like UNR.
[06:17] <Talon_> winxp
[06:17] <James_-_> keepsake haven't had the option however can you tell me if I can do it with a live disk
[06:17] <keepsake> James_-_: Yes, you can. If you go into recovery mode, you can recover grub.
[06:17] <brijith> hi All want to configure Evolutions email client to access my gmail account
[06:17] <keepsake> James_-_: And also enter that prompt
[06:17] <web1109> Talon_: yeah i agree with keepsake, 1gb not enought for host and guest
[06:18] <clicker4721> brjith: That's easy: Google it.
[06:18] <James_-_> keepsake ok let me go try this brb
[06:18] <James_-_> thanks
[06:18] <clicker4721> brijith: That's easy, Google it.
[06:18] <keepsake> James_-_: Are you running ubuntu on a secondary computer?
[06:18] <James_-_> yes
[06:18] <Differentkindof> I have a slightly daft question I was wondering if a certain program would build okay on ubuntu for arm
[06:18] <Talon_> i still dont get why ubuntu uses 50% of my ram without vbox started
[06:18] <James_-_> keepsake it is a fresh install not 10m old
[06:19] <keepsake> James_-_: Did you install it over something?
[06:19] <clicker4721> Differentkindof: Sorry, can't help you, over my head.
[06:19] <Differentkindof> The only languages I see on it's sourceforge site is tcl c and c++
[06:19] <brijith> clicker4721:but the probelm is I am accessing internet through a proxy
[06:19] <Differentkindof> So I think it's feasible
[06:19] <misteralexander> I've seen some googled pages about making an SSH shortcut. The problem, they tell you to create a link through Nautilus. That opens the remote server in a GUI view, I need a "Shortcut" as it were I can click & have it open up in Terminal.  Any Ideas?
[06:19] <trupheenix> hi i'm facing a weird issue with apache on ubuntu. my .htaccess files are not working correctly even though i have set AllowOverride All. when i checked my apache error log i found that the rewrite rule is getting executed but it says file not found. any clues?
[06:19] <web1109> Talon_: accoring to 'free -m' mine uses 440mb, not much running
[06:19] <clicker4721> brijith: That blocks http://www.google.com/
[06:19] <clicker4721> ???
[06:19] <James_-_> keepsake yes I think and old ubuntu sever 8.04but i had the live disk format everything
[06:19] <Talon_> hang on, let me switch irc clients, i run winxp just for mIRC hehe
[06:20] <keepsake> James_-_: Are you currently running 9.10?
[06:20] <James_-_> keepsake I am installing 9.10 yes
[06:20] <Differentkindof> clicker4721: No worries my needs are getting to this point that I should prolly know to do this from scratch and not expect miracles
[06:20] <keepsake> James_-_: You should have a Recovery mode in the boot CD
[06:20] <brijith> clicker4721:no i can access gmail and everything through proxy. But when I setup gmail in evolution It shows some error like can not conect
[06:21] <Talon_> free -m shows 692 used
[06:21] <clicker4721> Differentkindof: I don't even know what's special about ARM, sorry...seen it somewhere, never read the article...I didn't intend any sarcasm.
[06:21] <Talon_> vbox is off
[06:21] <brijith> clicker4721:I mean I can access gmail using a browser
[06:21] <James_-_> keepsake would that be 'safe graphics mode' under F4
[06:21] <keepsake> Talon_: 692 used, how much cached?
[06:21] <web1109> Talon_: what about the second line?
[06:21] <Talon_> 692/988 in use
[06:21] <keepsake> James_-_: No, boot the disk normally
[06:22] <Talon_> 132 cached
[06:22] <Differentkindof> clicker4721: No worries... One day I'll learn to program myself
[06:22] <clicker4721> brijith: Hmm...You have to enable POP access on your Gmail account.
[06:22] <brijith> clicker4721:hmm ?
[06:22] <brijith> How can do that ???
[06:22] <Talon_> root@Ubuntu:~# free -m
[06:22] <Talon_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:22] <Talon_> Mem:           998        692        306          0         11        132
[06:22] <Talon_> -/+ buffers/cache:        548        450
[06:22] <Talon_> Swap:         2376        151       2225
[06:22] <James_-_> keepsake boot the CD? or the HDD
[06:22] <keepsake> Talon_: So you're using about 560 MB, which to be honest is pretty normal =\
[06:22] <Talon_> really?
[06:22] <FloodBot1> Talon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <keepsake> Talon_: You're actually only using about 150 MB
[06:22] <Differentkindof> clicker4721:  also set which ports cause gmail are different from other services
[06:23] <keepsake> Talon_: Nowhere near the 700 MB that you think =P
[06:23] <keepsake> James_-_: Boot the CD
[06:23] <James_-_> keepsake ok booting
[06:23] <Talon_> why so much? windows hardly touches my ram...
[06:23] <web1109> keepsake: I think accorinding to second line, discarding cache, he's is truly using 548mb
[06:23] <web1109> which is a tad hgh
[06:23] <iflema> Talon_ im up in gnome, extra things loaded at boot.... footprint a little over 300mb
[06:23] <clicker4721> brijith: Differentkindof is right, you have to know your ports, too. Any online tutorial should be able to tell you this, but I can't. Just enable POP access, and find a tutorial. All better.
[06:24] <misteralexander> I need some help making an SSH shortcut. I see on UbuntuForums, they tell you to create a link through Nautilus. That opens the remote server in a GUI view, I need a "Shortcut" as it were I can click & have it open up in Terminal.  Any Ideas?
[06:24] <Differentkindof> Yeah it's like 465 for outgoing 995 or something for incoming
[06:24] <blakkheim> misteralexander: just use the cli dude..
[06:24] <web1109> Talon_: htop will tell you in pretty colors
[06:24] <keepsake> Talon_: Your usage is actually pretty normal, to be honest
[06:24] <Talon_> so i need more ram.
[06:24] <brijith> clicker4721:my pop is enable
[06:25] <brijith> clicker4721:in gmail
[06:25] <iflema> Talon_ these days one really does need 3+ gig o ram to have fun......
[06:25] <keepsake> Talon_: Essentially; especially if you're looking to run vbox very well
[06:25] <Talon_> crazy
[06:25] <keepsake> brijith: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103
[06:26] <clicker4721> brijith: Now find a tutorial. Differentkindof said it might be port 465 out and port 995 in. It's worth a shot, but I can't guarantee it.
[06:26] <misteralexander> blakkheim: LOL -- I know, I usually open terminal and type in ' ssh username@server.com ' but (i'm lazy) and just want to double click an icon and have terminal open with the info already there.  I can go to Places > Connect To A Server | but that opens the remote server in a GUI, I need it open in Terminal.
[06:26] <brijith> clicker4721:when I posted this issue in a mailing list ,some one told me to change the squid,our proxy, configurations to allow those port
[06:26] <Talon_> does kde use less than gnome?
[06:26] <clicker4721> brijith: Never heard of it.
[06:26] <Differentkindof> Im running of memory on that clicker4721  and brijith
[06:26] <keepsake> Talon_: Try xfce instead
[06:26] <misteralexander> blakkheim: Am I missing a day-one basic step?  LOL.
[06:26] <keepsake> Talon_: xfce is supposed to be the lightest
[06:26] <blakkheim> Talon_: gnome, kde and xfce are all bloated
[06:26] <clicker4721> Differentkindof: ???
[06:26] <web1109> Talon_: not last time i checked, what is your ram usage on fresh boot? the spot that said 548
[06:27] <Differentkindof> Memory on a tech call last night (server ports)
[06:27] <brijith> clicker4721:but I didn't got any further  info, like what are the ports
[06:27] <clicker4721> Differentkindof: I don't know what that is...sorry again.
[06:27] <brijith> clicker4721:or which line to edit etc ..
[06:28] <clicker4721> brijith: We just said some...just plug those in.
[06:28] <hiexpo> hello all
[06:28] <error404notfound> i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and when i try to build iso i get http://pastebin.com/m64a867e8, any ideas?
[06:28] <ouyes> hi you
[06:28] <James_-_> keepsake I am at the terminal and have tried bot 'find /grub/stage1' and 'find /boot/grub/stage1'  neither are there according to 'find'
[06:29] <James_-_> keepsake sorry hold on typo
[06:30] <ouyes> James_-_,  thanks il coustomizate one for myself after 10.04 LST released
[06:30] <web1109> Talon_: btw in System Monitor you can click View > All Processes and then sort by memory
[06:31] <Talon_> any way to get a basic list of what packages i can remove to cut my memory usage down?
[06:32] <web1109> Talon_: packages doesn't exactly mean memory usage
[06:32] <iAmerikan> what processes are you running Talon_
[06:32] <web1109> depends on what is started in startup programs
[06:32] <koshari> Talon_ hhh or ram?
[06:33] <misteralexander> When I hit "ALT+F2", what program is that?
[06:33] <Talon_> top shows 155 processes running
[06:33] <Talon_> well "tasks"
[06:33] <Talon_> lots of those "tasks" i prolly don't need
[06:33] <keepsake> misteralexander: It's the "start" program
[06:33] <web1109> Talon check in System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[06:34] <James_-_> keepsake I have now checked and I DIDN'T have a typo... I have also checked for that file using the GUI... so now what do i do
[06:34] <misteralexander> keepsake: like /usr/bin/start ???
[06:34] <Renatus> so um, can you install madwifi drivers with a dell wlan card 1937?
[06:34] <keepsake> misteralexander: I believe so.
[06:35] <keepsake> James_-_: Can you get into Recovery mode?
[06:35] <Talon_> whats seahorse daemon
[06:35] <misteralexander> keepsake: nah, I checked.  I'm trying to make an SSH shortcut on my desktop, click it & terminal launches you into the remote server.
[06:35] <keepsake> James_-_: i.e. restart with the CD, go to Recovery mode, and then select "Reinstall grub bootloader" or something
[06:35] <James_-_> keepsake no not from the HDD and I haven't found a option for it with the cd... what I am in is live mode
[06:36] <Talon_> k i turned off some services like that printer n bluetooth and dropped in memory usage, still rather high tho
[06:36] <James_-_> ok i will look for something like that
[06:36] <keepsake> James_-_: Go into Recovery mode using the CD
[06:36] <James_-_> ok
[06:36] <web1109> Talon, did you View > all processes in System Monitor?
[06:36] <misteralexander> keepsake: any ideas?
[06:36] <Talon_> yes
[06:36] <web1109> that shoudl add up, no?
[06:37] <keepsake> misteralexander: What's the command you're trying to run?
[06:37] <keepsake> misteralexander: I don't use SSH myself so I'm not too familiar with it
[06:38] <web1109> Talon you maybe can turn off compiz in System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects TAb
[06:38] <Talon_> done, didnt help much
[06:39] <j_ack> adalal: verything ok with your mp3's?
[06:39] <iAmerikan> Talon_, what're your systemspecs?
[06:39] <James_-_> keepsake I don't see a option on the black screen of the live disk where you pick live mode or install etc.... however I can get to the 'text interface' if you can give me the command to enter in to recovery mode I will be GTG
[06:39] <misteralexander> keepsake:  LOL -- I'm trying a bunch of stuff.  I basically want to click an icon on my desktop & terminal will lauch having already known the username & server to connect.  I can do this in Nautilus, but that gives my a GUI connection & I need a CLI connection.
[06:39] <web1109> Talon_: on my system in System Monitor 1&2 are Xorg @ 17mb and nautilus @ 16mb
[06:39] <Talon_> ps ax shows things like cupsd running, isn't that printing services? i have no printer
[06:40] <keepsake> misteralexander: You need to find a terminal-based SSH program then, probably >>
[06:40] <iAmerikan> misteralexander, I suggest putty?
[06:40] <keepsake> James_-_: What do you see?
[06:40] <keepsake> iAmerikan: Isn't putty GUI-based?
[06:40] <Talon_> so i really dont need a print daemon running since im never going to print
[06:40] <James_-_> keepsake i am at 'boot:'
[06:41] <iAmerikan> keepsake, my bad. how about the openssh client?
[06:41] <keepsake> James_-_: Sorry, restart into the main menu of the CD with the Live mode and stuff
[06:41] <keepsake> iAmerikan: I don't know, sorry =(
[06:41] <James_-_> keepsake ok
[06:41] <geirha> Talon_: It does allow you to print to file (ps/pdf), so it has some usefulness even without a printer.
[06:41] <misteralexander> keepsake: LOL -- ALMOST there.  chose to make a "Launcher" for my desktop & just put in my SSH info . . . then BAM it promted me for a password, then nothing happened.  LOL -- Almost there.
[06:42] <James_-_> keepsake I am at the live disk screen right after picking english
[06:42] <keepsake> James_-_: What options do you see?
[06:43] <James_-_> try ubuntu with our change, install ubuntu, check disc for defect, test memory, boot from fiest HDD
[06:43] <James_-_> keepsaketry ubuntu with our change, install ubuntu, check disc for defect, test memory, boot from fiest HDD
[06:43] <blakkheim> !lol | misteralexander
[06:43] <keepsake> James_-_: There is no option to enter Recovery mode? That's really strange.
[06:43] <keepsake> James_-_: Is there something to enable "Advanced mode" or something of the sort?
[06:44] <iAmerikan> misteralexander, http://www.askdavetaylor.com/automating_ssh_with_a_shell_script.html
[06:44] <James_-_> keepsake F4 gives these options normal, safe graphics mode, use driver update disk, OEM install
[06:45] <Talon_> well i removed cups, now im removing everything related to bluetooth, i have no bluetooth devices or possibility for bluetooth
[06:45] <misteralexander> iAmerikan: Thanks!
[06:46] <keepsake> James_-_: What does F6 give you?
[06:47] <James_-_> keepsake acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmriad, free software only
[06:48] <keepsake> James_-_: Maybe you'll want to try just reinstalling ubuntu
[06:48] <keepsake> James_-_: If you just installed it, you won't lose much
[06:48] <James_-_> keepsake I just found this... if you have time look at it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[06:49] <web1109> Talon_: you haven't told us what are the biggest memory consumers on your system, see System MOnitro
[06:49] <James_-_> I think I need to look for a difrent file... maybe grub.cfg
[06:49] <keepsake> James_-_: You're not using grub2 though =\
[06:50] <James_-_> keepsake.. ok which grub comes with 9.10
[06:51] <keepsake> James_-_: I think grub1 with the CD.
[06:52] <James_-_> keepsake Ok will do a reinstall in the AM thanks for the help,  If all else fails I can do more research or just downgrade to LTS if need be
[06:52] <James_-_> Night all
[06:52] <keepsake> James_-_: Sorry I couldn't have been of more help; good luck!
[06:54] <jstoone> Hi everyone! I am haveing a little problem with my gnome-terminal. When it starts the working directory is in "/" (root) how to I change it to "~/" (home).
[06:55] <web1109> cd
[06:55] <keepsake> jstoone: Are you logged in as root?
[06:55] <jstoone> keepsake, no i am just logged in on an account with full administration.
[06:56] <keepsake> jstoone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=243332&postcount=6
[06:56] <jstoone> keepsake, How did you find that so quick?
[06:57] <keepsake> jstoone: The powers of Google =P
[06:57] <jstoone> hehe
[06:57] <jstoone> what did you search 'cause I have been searching all over the place!
[06:57] <jstoone> keepsake, what did you search 'cause I have been searching all over the place!
[06:58] <keepsake> jstoone: "gnome terminal start directory"
[06:58] <keepsake> First result =P
[07:01] <jstoone> keepsake, typical, my searches is to advanced xD
[07:04] <jstoone> keepsake, Thanks! It works. (:
[07:04] <keepsake> jstoone: =D
[07:04] <misteralexander> keepsake: Got it.  Create a launcher, but instead of "Application" choose "Application In Terminal".  On the command line (usr/bin/program) instead put " ssh username@server.com "  and then it'll open up in Terminal & then prompt for a password.  100% what I wanted.
[07:05] <keepsake> misteralexander: Ahh, I never realised you could have "Application in Terminal." Thanks, I learned something =P
[07:05] <misteralexander> keepsake: no prob.
[07:05] <GG19> Hey guys I'm trying to hide a .rar file inside a .png image using the terminal  and I'm having a trouble with it I'm putting "brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ cat '/home/brandon/Desktop/HB.png' '/home/brandon/Desktop/HB.rar' >HB1.png" and nothing happens like tutorials gave shown happen. any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[07:06] <rethus> i have add a folder /tmp/sammelordner and link from my /home-folder to this . Everytime i restart, the link and the /tmp-folder are gone... why
[07:06] <rethus> thats very strange
[07:06] <keepsake> GG19: Try leaving out the single quotes
[07:06] <Xbert> rethus, /tmp is deleted every reboot
[07:07] <GG19> keepsake,  Ill try that
[07:07] <ultraparadigm> Holy Shimolies!!  VirtualBox rocks!!!
[07:07] <rethus> Xbert: ok, thats one of the suse specials ;) (i come from suse)
[07:07] <ultraparadigm> I may never boot windows again!
[07:08] <rethus> where can i add an folder for temporary files which will not be deletet every boot-time?
[07:08] <GG19> keepsake,  nope still nothing
[07:08] <keepsake> GG19: What's the error?
[07:08] <jstoone> Just a question. How do you then extract the hidden rar fire from the PNG image+
[07:08] <trovanon> ultraparadigm, welcome to the real world :D
[07:08] <rethus> so i need it only for special download-files which i want to keep for 30 Days
[07:08] <GG19> keepsake,  brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ cat /home/brandon/Desktop/HB.png /home/brandon/Desktop/HB.rar > hb1.png
[07:08] <GG19> brandon@brandon-desktop:~$
[07:08] <Xbert> rethus, you home folder
[07:09] <GG19> keepsake,  just goes to a new line
[07:09] <keepsake> GG19: That means the file was created
[07:09] <keepsake> GG19: Except it went into your home folder, /home/brandon/
[07:09] <GG19> keepsake,  let me check
[07:09] <rethus> Xbert: k. thanks
[07:10] <GG19> keepsake,  homigod thanks I thought it was supposed to show on my desktop since that where my files where.
[07:10] <firefox_> Moblock is blocking everything even though I added http and https  http://pastebin.org/79073 conf  & status http://pastebin.org/79075
[07:11] <jstoone> GG19, Can i ask you something?
[07:11] <geirha> GG19: > ~/Desktop/HB1.png   would have put it on your desktop
[07:11] <GG19> jstoone,  yes?
[07:11] <keepsake> GG19: Exactly what geirha said, your directory was set to the home folder
[07:12] <firefox_> any ideas?
[07:12] <jstoone> GG19: Lets say that I got the H1.png file, how would I extract the rar out of it?
[07:13] <GG19> jstoone,  you would rename the extension to .rar
[07:13] <rethus> search for a programm which make me ably to sync local-folder and ftp-folder
[07:13] <jstoone> Oh (; alright (:
[07:13] <keepsake> jstoone: Alternately you can look for headers, but that's a little more complicated =P
[07:13] <jstoone> GG19, Oh okay, thanks!
[07:13] <rethus> so i will choose... copy only newer or non existing files from ftp to local
[07:14] <GG19> jstoone,  yup :)
[07:14] <jstoone> keepsake, would you care telling more about that? (:
[07:14] <keepsake> jstoone: Well PNG images and RAR files have distinct headers
[07:14] <jstoone> GG19, Thnaks (: Good luck in the future
[07:14] <littlesmokie> hello
[07:14] <keepsake> jstoone: If you hex edit and find the header you'll be able to separate them
[07:14] <GG19> keepsake,  thanks again.
[07:14] <littlesmokie> can you guys see this?
[07:14] <GG19> jstoone,  you too, I'm still learning Linux
[07:15] <jstoone> GG19 I am also new to this awesome world (:
[07:15] <keepsake> GG19: No problem, have fun =)
[07:15] <littlesmokie> i'm really new i just got this today
[07:15] <jstoone> keepsake, do you recommend any program for HEX editing?
[07:16] <GG19> I am actually having one more difficulty I cant for the life of me find the wizard plugin for compiz.
[07:16] <jstoone> littlesmokie, yes i see what you are writing (:
[07:16] <keepsake> GG19: "Wizard plugin"?
[07:16] <GG19> keepsake,  its for more effects.
[07:16] <keepsake> jstoone: Not really, anything works
[07:17] <keepsake> GG19, I believe you're looking for CCSM
[07:17] <keepsake> !ccsm | GG19
[07:17] <GG19> keepsake,  I have CCSM I just need a plugin that adds to CCSM for more features
[07:18] <littlesmokie> hey what do you guys recommend for installing windows games on ubuntu?
[07:18] <keepsake> littlesmokie: Regular wine, otherwise PlayonLinux
[07:18] <jstoone> keepsake, Anything? Well I know that I cannot open a file with the .rar extension with   gedit
[07:18] <GG19> littlesmokie,  from my experiance dual-boot lol
[07:18] <littlesmokie> hehehe gg19 yeah i wanted a reason not to go back to windows
[07:18] <keepsake> jstoone: There are a lot of them, for example, ghex or something
[07:19] <Thomas_Ludwig> HI
[07:19] <keepsake> GG19: Do you know what kind of features it gives?
[07:19] <mooglenorph> Hi, how do I totally remove GNOME from ubuntu?
[07:19] <mooglenorph> I have the latest version of ubuntu NBR.
[07:20] <GG19> well one feature it does is that the flames under the mouse that you turn on with super + K stays perminently. also more destop and windows effects Im pretty sure.
[07:20] <BinaryMan> I was that random guest having initramfs/cryptsetup problems. Ended up fxing the problem.
[07:20] <Renatus> where do i find what to patch for,  patch -p1 -i bcm43xx-injection-linux-2.6.20.patch
[07:20] <Thomas_Ludwig> Maybe someone has an idea what I can do. I used sudo chmod 644 */ (OMG) and now I have the problem that the system isnt booting. run-init: /sbin/init: Permission denied kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[07:21] <littlesmokie> hey i installed recently ventrilo but the hot keys don't work how do i fix?
[07:21] <littlesmokie> sorry i'm a noob just got this operating system today
[07:21] <Thomas_Ludwig> so i changed /sbin /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin to 755 but there is no effect
[07:21] <keepsake> mooglenorph: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:22] <mooglenorph> keepsake: thanks!
[07:22] <keepsake> mooglenorph: I'd be careful with that though, it does remove some packages that you might want.
[07:22] <Thomas_Ludwig> any ideas how I can repair my filesystem permissions for booting?
[07:22] <jstoone> keepsake, Now I typed   "sudo apt-get install ghex" and it installed but how do I open a fire with this program?
[07:23] <keepsake> jstoone: "ghex /path/to/file"?
[07:23] <geirha> Renatus: grep '^+++' bcm43xx-injection-linux-2.6.20.patch     should show you what files it will patch. You're likely supposed to run it in /usr/src/linux-<version>/
[07:23] <mooglenorph> keepsake: what would I be most likely to miss?
[07:24] <keepsake> mooglenorph: Haha, the list is actually horribly long =P
[07:24] <keepsake> I'd just keep everything that start with gnome-
[07:24] <keepsake> and remove other stuff
[07:24] <littlesmokie> sorry but what IDE and language is used to make applications for Ubuntu?
[07:24] <keepsake> (by that i mean, REMOVE the gnome- stuff and erase the non-gnome stuff from the command)
[07:25]  * mooglenorph nods
[07:25] <keepsake> Also, make sure you don't have the "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" at the end =P
[07:25]  * mooglenorph shudders
[07:25] <keepsake> Anyway, good luck, I gotta go to bed now, almost 2:30 AM D=
[07:25] <Circs> I'm having trouble with usb-creator on my netbook. It says "Starting Up" and then doesn't do anything.
[07:26] <amar> Where and what should I add in Ubuntu grub menu to boot into Fedora? I have installed Fedora 12 but don't know how to do it.
[07:27] <jstoone> keepsake, now I got into my Downloads dir in my home folder and in here i wrote "ghex skype-installer-blabla.deb" and it out puts something like "did you mean 'hex' instead of 'ghex'"...
[07:28] <Renatus> Whenever i run 'patch -p1 -i bcm43xx-injection-linux-2.6.20.patch' i get a " can't find file to patch at input line 4
[07:28] <Renatus> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[07:28] <Renatus> The text leading up to this was:
[07:28] <Renatus> --------------------------
[07:28] <Renatus> |diff -ur linux/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c linux-bcm43xx-patch2/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c
[07:28] <FloodBot1> Renatus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <Renatus> my bad
[07:29] <Circs> Could someone help me backport usb-creator to my 8.04 netbook?
[07:30] <GG19> I have a question that might sound odd.
[07:30] <littlesmokie> what IDE is the best for developing programs for Ubuntu?
[07:30] <Guest78034> anybody know how i can change my nick
[07:30] <Guest78034> since im a guest it wont let me
[07:31] <GG19> I have a music folder with about 800+ folders and in each folder has songs if there a easy way to cut all the songs out of all the folders and into one folder and overwrite duplicates on its own?
[07:32] <disappearedng> hey avidemux 's append option fails only on the audio, any advise?
[07:32] <iflema> Circs what have you done so far....?
[07:32] <Circs> iflema, Googled until my brain popped. I just want to make a usb startup disk of a newer relese to put on my netbook
[07:34] <geirha> GG19: find /path/to/music -type f \( -iname "*.ogg" -o -iname "*.mp3" \) -exec cp -t /path/to/destination {} +
[07:34] <iflema> Circs well if ya bailing out.... you can just enable all backports.... or you can do just the one package and its deps.
[07:35] <Maz3Mike> Has anybody ever configured a Teamspeak 3 server?
[07:35] <Circs> iflema, Oh, ok. Where do i do that?
[07:35] <iflema> Circs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[07:35] <GG19> geirha,  ill give that a try
[07:35] <iflema> Circs ill help if get stuck
[07:36] <farfadet> qq parle francais
[07:36] <farfadet> ?
[07:36] <dacs> howdy
[07:36] <Renatus1> how do i put my wireless card into monitor mode? I have the dreaded broadcom 43xx and i tried patching it with the b43 patch but im not sure how
[07:37] <iflema> Circs there are other ways to do usb startup disks
[07:37] <farfadet> quelqu'un parlerais francais svp???
[07:37] <Flannel> !fr | farfadet
[07:37] <dacs> is there a way i can compress a folder into .hfs
[07:37] <farfadet> coucou qq pourrait m'aider?
[07:37] <Circs> iflema, Hmmm probably going to need them, but tomorrow I guess. getting very late here and I thought this wouldn't have been such a battle.
[07:38] <SeViLLa> Firefox-3.5 just stop working its saying that i wont start because there is another instance of it running but there is not.
[07:38] <farfadet> je tente de crée un nouvel album sur facebook et j'ais un plugin manquant et il ne me dis pas le quel qq serait-il celui qu'il faut?
[07:38] <iflema> Circus look into dd and writing iso's
[07:38] <Circs> iflema, I got usb-creator, but it just sits there forever and says "Starting up">
[07:38] <SeViLLa> can anyone help
[07:38] <GG19> geirha,  is find part of the code?
[07:38] <Circs> SeViLLa, go into terminal and type sudo pkill firefox
[07:39] <iflema> Circs e.g. dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/<USB Drive>
[07:39] <SeViLLa> Circs: i tried that didnt help i also rebooted same thing
[07:39] <GG19> geirha,  I put: find /media/disk/Music -type f \( -iname "*.ogg" -o -iname "*.mp3" \) -exec cp -t /media/disk/Music2 {} +
[07:39] <Circs> SeViLLa, does top see an instance of firefox?
[07:40] <GG19> geirha,  that look correct before I hit enter?
[07:40] <SeViLLa> Circs: nope
[07:40] <geirha> GG19: Yes, that find command searches recursively through the given directories for all regular files (-type f) that end in either .ogg or .mp3, and executes cp with those files as arguments
[07:40] <SeViLLa> Circs: i even purged firefox and reinstalled still i get the same message
[07:40] <iflema> Circs and of course http://unetbootin.Sourceforge.Net/
[07:41] <geirha> GG19: It looks correct, yes. It won't output anything though (except for errors if any). If you want it more verbose, add a -v to the cp command.  ... -exec cp -v -t /media...
[07:41] <GG19> geirha,  what about AAC or m4a, mp4?
[07:41] <Circs> iflema, I hope unetbootin has gotten better. the linux version was broken for quite some time
[07:42] <geirha> GG19: \( -iname "*.ogg" -o -iname "*.mp3" -o -iname "*.aac" ... \)
[07:42] <iflema> Circs 32bit or 64?
[07:42] <wolter> is all the software in the ubuntu repositories free *and* open source?
[07:43] <geirha> GG19: Add each extension you want to match like that. -o means "or"
[07:44] <Guest89594> How to show an internet-pages sourcecode in Terminal?
[07:45] <GG19> geirha,  I put: find /media/disk/Music -type f \( -iname "*.ogg" -o -iname "*.mp3" -o -iname "*.aac" -o -iname "*.m4a" -o -iname "*.mp4" -o -iname "*.wmp" \) -exec cp -t /media/disk/Music2 {} +
[07:45] <GG19> geirha,  and nothing showed up after I hit enter
[07:45] <dacs> is there a way i can compress a folder into .hfs
[07:46] <geirha> GG19: Then it's copying
[07:46] <Renatus1> why am i getting the error, patch: **** strip count l is not a number, when i type patch -pl < mac80211.compat08082009.wl_frag+ack_v1.patch
[07:46] <maco> Guest89594:  "wget -O webpage http://google.com && nano webpage" ?
[07:46] <littlesmokie> what is a good virtual machine app for ubuntu
[07:46] <maco> littlesmokie: virtualbox
[07:46] <littlesmokie> maco: thank you
[07:46] <jcape> Is there any site that has the md5sums of a package contents?
[07:47] <Bennit> hi, can you print all open files in gedit at once?
[07:47] <Bennit> or do I have o cat all files then print? :p
[07:47] <jcape> i.e. a way to validate an md5sum on my box against the official package
[07:47] <Guest89594> maco, im more looking for a direct way to show it in Terminal
[07:47] <GG19> geirha,  oh I see now, is it making a copy or moving them? cause I don;t thing I have the space for 2 sets of musi.
[07:47] <Guest89594> maco, i think curl does it
[07:48] <web1109> Guest89594: wget http://webpage.com/index.html -O - | less
[07:48] <Guest89594> maco, ..just found out
[07:48] <maco> Guest89594: oh. ok. heh i was just about to say what web1109 said too
[07:48] <Flannel> jcape: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/Release is for karmic-security, for instance (all of the packages)
[07:48] <web1109> Guest89594: that's capital O for wget and small o for curl
[07:48] <Flannel> jcape: apt verifies that stuff as you download it, I believe.
[07:48] <NameMe> hi i cannot resize my hard drive useing gparted
[07:48] <Flannel> jcape: I'm almost certain, at that.
[07:48] <NameMe> help
[07:49] <geirha> GG19: cp copies. If you want to move them, change cp to mv. Though if any of the files have identical names, the last one will overwrite the first one, without warning.
[07:50] <mooglenorph> Well *that's* interesting. I nuked gnome with the command from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde here, rebooted, and am stuck at a light green screen. It seemed to run the normal splash screen fine, and then drops me here. Thoughts?
[07:50] <GG19> crap is their any way to stop the current process of copying?
[07:50] <geirha> GG19: Ctrl+c
[07:50] <mooglenorph> ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't take me back to a vtty
[07:50] <GG19> in terminal?
[07:50] <reactor> mooglenorph, ?
[07:50] <geirha> GG19: In the terminal that is running the find, yes.
[07:50] <IdleOne> GG19: yes
[07:52] <GG19> geirha,  kk changed it to mv its doing its thing now :)
[07:52] <NameMe> i need help with gparted useing the live cd .... i donot have ubuntu installed running from cd
[07:53] <web1109> maco: here's another one on AC when lid is closed my laptop goes to sleep, but when power cord is removed it doesn't switch to hibernate. Hence I changed sleep_type_ac to hibernate as well. Think I'm good now
[07:53] <mooglenorph> reactor: I'd like to boot to a terminal with no login manager. To that end, I removed gnome with the purekde command from psychocats, without installing kde. The boot process works up until when the splash screen would normally end, at which point I get a blank light green screen.
[07:53] <maco> web1109: oh yeah i noticed that before. thats annoying.
[07:53] <reactor> mooglenorph, hmm
[07:54] <web1109> maco: err I mean't I since also changed lid_ac to hibernate
[07:54] <GG19> geirha,  yeah so I imported all my itunes music to rythembox but itunes made a file system by artist name and I had multiple songs that were duplicats so I wanted to force them into one folder and make it sort itself out so my playlist didnt have tons of duplicats on it so I thank you for the help it is much appreciated :)
[07:55] <mooglenorph> reactor: which is weird as all get out. I can't use control-alt-f1 (or whatever) to switch to a terminal either.
[07:55] <reactor> mooglenorph, yeh looks strange
[07:55] <reactor> mooglenorph, you just had to remove xserver
[07:55] <Guest89594> y does "curl | grep word" not work?!
[07:57] <mooglenorph> reactor: I should also remove xserver? I don't think it was listed in the command.
[07:57] <web1109> Guest89594: i'm a noob in that department but i think you need    -o -    after curl to direct output to stdout
[07:57] <reactor> mooglenorph, sudo apt-get remove xorg
[07:58] <neure> hi
[07:58] <neure> does ubuntu have some default gcc options?
[07:58] <neure> where could i check those?
[07:59] <ManDay> Ubuntu?
[07:59] <ouyes> an atracting question, how many computing capabilities will it be saved to change from gnome to xfce??
[07:59] <ManDay> Does the time and date applet for gnome-panel offer a calendar? because if, i cant get it to work
[07:59] <NameMe> i have tryed for 4 days to partition my hard drive todule boot i have tryed useing the installer i have tryed useing gpatred but nothing will alow me to resize the existing partition
[07:59] <NameMe> what do i do?
[08:00] <ouyes> NameMe,  backup your data and reinstall it
[08:00] <neure> yes that would be the best way to do it
[08:00] <neure> get a new hard drive :)
[08:01] <neure> or borrow external usb drive
[08:01] <NameMe> i have tryed for 4 nothing is installed ubuntu is running from the live cd os
[08:01] <ManDay> What plugin/applet offers a calendar in which I can store appointments and such for gpanel???
[08:01] <NameMe> oops
[08:01] <NameMe> scrach that typed before
[08:02] <NameMe> nothing is installed on the system i am useing ubuntu from the live cd OS
[08:02] <web1109> Guest89594: sorry I was wrong, it looks like curl by default outputs to stdout... but  -o - does the same thing it seems
[08:02] <NameMe> nothing is installed on the system i am useing ubuntu from the live cd OS
[08:03] <Zoug> lil offtopic but I need help how to turn off the part and joins in mirrgi(s60)
[08:03] <mooglenorph> now that's odd. I managed to switch to a tty, and after entering my username/password it hangs and then times out after 60 seconds
[08:03] <GG19> geirha,  I get some things that say "mv: will not overwrite just-created `/media/disk/Music2/07 Track 07.m4a' with `/media/disk/Music/Unknown Artist/Unknown Album/07 Track 07.m4a'" and "cp: will not overwrite just-created `/media/disk/Music2/08 Track 08.m4a' with `/media/disk/Music/Soilwork/Unknown Album/08 Track 08.m4a'"
[08:03] <GG19> geirha,  is that smething to worry about?
[08:04] <NameMe> HOW DO I REINSTALL AND BACK UP SOMTHING TTHAT IS RUNNING FROM THE LIVE CD
[08:04] <NameMe> nothing is installed on the system i am useing ubuntu from the live cd OS
[08:05] <geirha> GG19: Hm. I didn't expect it to do that, but I suspect the -t option is the reason. So it's probably moving the first file, then when a second file with that name comes along, it skips it. It will likely be left in the old tree after it's done.
[08:05] <ardchoille> NameMe: Everything from the livecd runs from cd rom and ram, there is nothing to reinstall. simply reboot and the livecd system is back to its original state
[08:05] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to create apoointments in the gnome-panel TIme and Date applet?
[08:06] <ardchoille> ManDay: those appointments are from the evolution app
[08:07] <GG19> geirha,  so if I delete my original folder i should be fine with my new folder
[08:07] <geirha> GG19: find /media/disk/Music /media/disk/Music2 -name "07 Track 07.m4a"
[08:08] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone know how i can renew my IP address (get a new one) with a ISP that dynamically assigns IPs?
[08:09] <geirha> GG19: If it finds a hit in Music2, then yes, removing Music should be fine.
[08:09] <GG19> geirha,  ahh i see
[08:09] <kslen> Anyone know how to get rsync to register * when I'm trying to exclude files?
[08:09] <GG19> geirha,  brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ find /media/disk/Music /media/disk/Music2 -name "07 Track 07.m4a"
[08:10] <kslen> For instance Documents and Settings/*/Programdata/Identities
[08:10] <GG19> geirha, brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ find /media/disk/Music /media/disk/Music2 -name "07 Track 07.m4a"
[08:10] <GG19> geirha,  wtf its not pasting right
[08:10] <GG19> geirha,  yeah I have 4 track 07's some are not duplicates
[08:11] <Kentrel> Hi, I don't have any shutdown\logout option in my Main menu in gnome. How do I add it?
[08:11] <jack5463> i installed emacs from the live cd. where can i find it and how do i boot it?
[08:11] <Zoug> Kentrel its in the top right corner
[08:11] <GG19> geirha,  its fine though I looked at my folder size from my original folder and its just onder 150mb so its not much I think if I noticed a song missing Ill check the original.
[08:12] <Kentrel> Yeha, but I want to put it in the Main Menu
[08:12] <ardchoille> Kentrel: if you want it in youir main menu, remove the user applet at the top right panel
[08:12] <Zoug> Yeah
[08:12] <Kentrel> Oh that worked, lol
[08:12] <Kentrel> thanks
[08:13] <papul> hi guys :D
[08:13] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to create apoointments in the gnome-panel TIme and Date applet?
[08:13] <ManDay> sorry
[08:13] <ManDay> missed the reply
[08:13] <ManDay> ardchoille, can you tell me what package these are in?
[08:13] <papul> ManDay: double click on a date
[08:14] <papul> i guess
[08:14] <ManDay> papul, doesnt do anything. only thing i can do is drag and drop a date to desktop and then it creates an empty textfile with only a string of the date in it
[08:14] <geirha> GG19: There is a possibility some files are gone though. If the length of the filenames exceed a certain length, it will invoke a second mv, which will overwrite once
[08:14] <ardchoille> ManDay: Evolution is the PIMsuite, if you make an appointment in evolution it will show up in that panel applet. What distro are you running?
[08:14] <papul> ManDay: then use evolution
[08:15] <ManDay> ardchoille, karmic
[08:15] <GG19> geirha,  Im not sure I follow?
[08:15] <ardchoille> ManDay: then you should have evlution installed already and it should be in the Office and/or Internet menus
[08:16] <mooglenorph> There we go. It was trying to start GDM, and I had removed GDM.
[08:16] <ManDay> ardchoille, no, i installed a minimal install. is there any dedicated calendar package that i could use instead of evolution?
[08:16] <ardchoille> ManDay: open Evolution, create an appointment and the new date will appear in bold text in the date/time applet fromdown
[08:16] <mooglenorph> How do I disable gdm properly? I just commented out some lines in the init.d/gdm.conf
[08:16] <ManDay> which, preferredly, links with gnome-panel?
[08:16] <ardchoille> ManDay: install the evlution package
[08:16] <ardchoille> ManDay: Evolution
[08:16] <ManDay> evolution is a mail client, isnt it?
[08:16] <ardchoille> ManDay: it's mail, taskis, notes, calendar, etc
[08:17] <ManDay> would be nice if there was a dedicated package. i only need the calendar and i dont like installing stuff which i wont need later?
[08:17] <geirha> GG19: the find will execute "mv -t /media/disk/Music2  file1 file2 file3 file4..." A command has a length limit, so if that is exceeded, it will run another mv -t /media/disk/Music2 file100 file101 file102 ...
[08:17] <ardchoille> ManDay: you can use Sunbird instead of evolution but it doesn't show appts in the panel applet
[08:18] <ManDay> thanks
[08:18] <ardchoille> ManDay: afaik, evolution is the only app that is linked to from the date panel applet
[08:18] <ManDay> hm
[08:19] <ManDay> thunderbird is afraid of a competitor on the same system
[08:19] <GG19> 6416 was what I had before 6014 is what I have now so 402 songs got deleted and thats not to bad considering I probably had that much or the song was similar in name which means I didn't care to much for it to change it lol and it saved me a crap load of time so I am happy with the result.
[08:19] <ardchoille> ManDay: Evolution is one of the first things I uninstall because it's just too much
[08:19] <ManDay> see :-)
[08:21] <papul> i want reinstall openssl. but if i try to remove it many other apps are also remove. is there a way to just remove and then install openssl?
[08:21] <Dravekx> how do I lock a user to his own directory?
[08:22] <geirha> GG19: Alright then. How many are left?  find /media/disk/Music -type f     (that will list all files remaining, if they are all music files, append   |wc -l  at the end to count the number of lines
[08:22] <jack5463>  i installed emacs from the live cd. where can i find it and how do i run it?
[08:23] <ardchoille> jack5463: open a terminal and type: emacs
[08:23] <GG19> geirha,  I got ahead of myself and just deleted the folder >.<
[08:25] <MegaHerz|wrk> Hi all. I can't import address book from Outlook Express to Evolution. Is there a way?
[08:26] <geirha> GG19: Oh, oh well, you still have a lot of music at least ;)
[08:26] <GG19> geirha,  I have the files on a mounted drive so they don't go to the trash they just delete is there a way I can make it so I can't delete files off my mounted drive? I'd hate to accidently delete something perminently
[08:27] <GG19> geirha,  if its possible would I still be able to read files and add files? just not be able to remove any?
[08:27] <papul> i want reinstall openssl. but if i try to remove it many other apps are also remove. is there a way to just remove and then install openssl?
[08:30] <Dravekx> how do I add a user to a group?
[08:30] <Dravekx> oh nvm I got it
[08:31] <setkeh> does ubuntu server live disk have ssh enabled i need to do a remote install
[08:31] <Polysics> hello
[08:31] <ewook> setkeh: not a ssh server, but you can install it.
[08:31] <Polysics> can i somehow get rid of PulseAudio?
[08:32] <setkeh> ewook: i need to do a remote install because i dont have a ps/2 keyboard for the dell poweredge 2650
[08:32] <ewook> setkeh: live disk as in live-cd I presume.
[08:32] <setkeh> ewook:  yes
[08:33] <Dravekx> anyone hosting??? I need some help.
[08:34] <setkeh> Dravekx: hosting what ??
[08:34] <Dravekx> , I got a friend who wants to use some space on my server.
[08:34] <Dravekx> and I have no idea how to set it up.
[08:34] <setkeh> Dravekx:  and ??
[08:34] <geirha> GG19: It typically puts a folder .Trash-<uid> at the root of the drive ...
[08:34] <Dravekx> I added him as a user
[08:35] <Dravekx> thats all I know how to do.
[08:35] <Polysics> apparently PulseAudio is not compatible with any existing softphone
[08:35] <Dravekx> but he is getting access denied to everything.
[08:35] <Polysics> can it be removed by any means?
[08:35] <Polysics> i'd be happy with ALSA
[08:35] <GG19> geirha,  I have no .trash can I creat one?
[08:36] <Dravekx> I also want to lock him into his own folder for web access.
[08:36] <Dravekx> not sure how to do that either.
[08:36] <setkeh> Dravekx:  you need to use adduser so you create a home directory for him
[08:36] <goldie> hey
[08:36] <goldie> how do you change your nick
[08:36] <Dravekx> setkeh, did that. now what?
[08:37] <realLife> anyone know of a sexy theme I can install? Tell me now or forever hold you're peace
[08:37] <Dravekx> goldie, /nick
[08:37] <geirha> GG19: It should create it by itself, though maybe the way that works has changed in later releases. I don't use nautilus much, so I'm "out of touch" with that.
[08:37] <setkeh> he wond get acces denied for /home/hisusername now
[08:37] <setkeh> wont*
[08:37] <neure> uh
[08:37] <neure> 9.10 has eglibc?
[08:37] <ardchoille> realLife: There are tons of great themes at http://www.gnome-look-org
[08:37] <ardchoille> realLife: There are tons of great themes at http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:37] <GG19> geirha,  its fine :)
[08:38] <realLife> ardchoille:  i know that, but what do u think is the best looking? :D
[08:38] <juzgod> reel life product
[08:38] <Riverthief> Sup guys
[08:38] <realLife> what
[08:38] <GG19> anyone know how to create a .Trash folder for a mounted HDD so I can't permanently delete something?
[08:39] <Riverthief> I was wondering, where is a good site for themes, icons, etc?
[08:39] <ardchoille> realLife: one man's trash is another man's treasure, "best" is entirely relative
[08:39] <Riverthief> Other thann the default one, gnome-look or w/e
[08:39] <Riverthief> *than
[08:39] <ardchoille> realLife: but, fwiw, look at SlicknesS
[08:39] <realLife> fwiw ? thanks
[08:40] <Dravekx> can someone help me setup a user account for my friend?<Dravekx> Im on ubuntu server, and I want to lock him in his directory where he ca host a website.
[08:40] <ce_metal_cord> ekhm
[08:40] <ce_metal_cord> cri cwo nie
[08:40] <realLife> gdm themes what is this?
[08:40] <TJSD> Hello. Due to mobo boot problems I have unstalled Ubuntu on my hard drive via a 2nd computer. Is there anyway to get the os to scan the new hardware and adjust to it?
[08:40] <geirha> realLife: Theme for the login screen
[08:41] <realLife> oh i c
[08:41] <realLife> thanks
[08:41] <realLife> possible to get virusses trojans on Ubuntu?
[08:41] <DJones> !virus | realLife
[08:41] <Dravekx> what is the initial group a newuser is in?
[08:42] <Dravekx> how do I take a user out of a group?
[08:42] <realLife> DJones:  thanks
[08:43] <realLife> how do i get all that fancy stuff on my background? like weather etc?
[08:43] <Dravekx> anyone answering questions in here? lol
[08:43] <kaka> add to the panel
[08:43] <TJSD> is there a ext4 command promp action i can type to reinstall ubuntu from the cd?
[08:44] <TJSD> boot from cd sint working
[08:44] <TJSD> or even access the cd...
[08:45] <iflema> Dravekx System / Administration / Users and Groups.... just untick the check boxes to remove from group
[08:47] <johe|work> hi there, does someone may know the package mantainer of pysnmp ??
[08:47] <mamat_> hi, just upgraded my laptop to 9.10. the trackpad mouse doesn't work anymore. usb mouse is ok. xorg.conf says "commented out by update-manager. HAL is now used"...
[08:47] <ShazbotMcNasty> 'sudo poop
[08:47] <ShazbotMcNasty> '
[08:48] <Kentrel> I have a 5 button MS Intellimouse, and I'm using xev to check out its buttons.
[08:48] <totux> hi @ all
[08:48] <Kentrel> the side buttons are 8 and 9 but there's no 6 and 7
[08:48] <realLife> gnome backgrounds package, i want to install this, but if I did all the updates is it alreaddy installed?
[08:49] <ardchoille> johe|work: Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[08:49] <DJones> !touchpad | mamat_ This might help you getting your touchpad working again
[08:49] <JoeSomebody> Hello, what will happen to the boot menu on a system that had xp, then ubuntu, if i also put windows 7 on?
[08:49] <unkmar> I would like to offer the ability for a user to kill one of their own programs but limit them to their programs.  ideas?
[08:49] <unkmar> currently, my option is to execute shoot_self_foot()
[08:49] <Myrtti> JoeSomebody: windows will install its own
[08:49] <JoeSomebody> oh, it was karmic clean install
[08:49] <neure> how do i downgrade from gcc 4.4 to gcc 4.3?
[08:49] <johe|work> ardchoille, damn, okay
[08:50] <JoeSomebody> so i lose my ubuntu choice?
[08:50] <ardchoille> johe|work: for future ref: apt-cache show package_name_here
[08:50] <hane> hı
[08:50] <ultraparadigm> Dag Nabit!
[08:50] <hane> ı have a problem
[08:50] <Riverthief> I was wondering, where is a good site for themes, icons, etc?
[08:50] <Polysics> we all do
[08:50] <ardchoille> johe|work:  or for future ref: apt-cache show package_name_here | grep Maintainer
[08:50] <disappearedng> Package libapache-mod-python2.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:50] <Riverthief> Other than the default one, gnome-look or w/e
[08:50] <ultraparadigm> I'm installing windows 7 for the third time now!
[08:50] <disappearedng> what do I do
[08:50] <Riverthief> 9.10
[08:50] <hane> hellpp
[08:50] <Myrtti> JoeSomebody: you can restore it, but that's what windows does
[08:51] <ultraparadigm> I can't get virtual box to mount the guest additions
[08:51] <unkmar> JoeSomebody: probably, but you can always reinstall grub using a liveCD and fix that problem
[08:51] <ardchoille> Riverthief:  http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:51] <JoeSomebody> so my menu will have xp and 7 only?
[08:51] <iflema> !ask | hane
 Other than the default one, gnome-look or w/e
[08:51] <Riverthief> :P
[08:51] <JoeSomebody> figures :)
[08:51] <Polysics> but can you ask about asking about asking a question?
[08:51] <JoeSomebody> is it hard to fix?
[08:51] <hane> my desktop icons to get lost
[08:51] <ardchoille> Riverthief: the only other one I know is art.gnome.org
[08:52] <Riverthief> Thanks :)
[08:52] <hane> i use to ubuntu 9.10
[08:52] <Polysics> ok, i'll try again: anyone knows how i can blast PulseAudio to outer space and get back good ole ALSA?
[08:52] <iflema> hane when/how? why?
[08:52] <khetti> anyone here play quake 3? im new to linux and am seeking tips to improve game performance, as there are periodic frame drops and generally it feels less smooth than running under xp
[08:53] <iflema> hane you do not want to see them?
[08:53] <JoeSomebody> well i guess you'll help me when/if i mess up the boot menu :)
[08:54] <ardchoille> papul: did you find a solution to your reinstall prob?
[08:55] <johe|work> ardchoille, is there any way to contact motu _not_ by mailinglist
[08:55] <Riverthief> Ok...so I got an icon pack. How exactly do I install em o.0
[08:55] <ultraparadigm> Anyone here run Virtual box?
[08:55] <Riverthief> Yes
[08:55] <hane> no i cant
[08:55] <Riverthief> I do, why?
[08:55] <hane> iflema
[08:56] <ardchoille> johe|work: I think they have a channelhere: #ubuntu-motu
[08:56] <ultraparadigm> I'm having trouble mounting the Guest Additions
[08:56] <Dravekx> how do I setup a user to have web access via their home directory??????
[08:56] <Riverthief> What is your guest OS?
[08:56] <f221> :)
[08:56] <iflema> hane devices that you are mounting or things like my computer and the trash?
[08:56] <f221> :)
[08:56] <hane> no
[08:57] <iflema> hane you on KDE$?
[08:57] <iflema> hane you on KDE4?
[08:57] <ultraparadigm> it says "Unable to mount the CD/DVD image /usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso"
[08:57] <hane> ne its gmone
[08:57] <Riverthief> ultraparadigm, what OS is it, that your running in VB?
[08:57] <hane> gnome
[08:57] <iflema> hane ?
[08:57] <iflema> hane ?
[08:57] <hane> ne i use to gnome
[08:57] <hane> iflema
[08:57] <ultraparadigm> My Guess OS is Windows 7 Ultimate 64
[08:57] <Riverthief> hmm
[08:57] <Riverthief> Did you have to redownload the guest additions?
[08:58] <zamba> your guess os?
[08:58] <Riverthief> or did you use an existing copy?
[08:58] <hane> ubuntu 9.10
[08:58] <ultraparadigm> Riverthief, No the iso file is on my file system
[08:58] <iflema> hane ubuntu 9.10 cant see icons of thing you moved/created?
[08:59] <Riverthief> When did you originally download it? Was it for a x32 guest OS?
[08:59] <ultraparadigm> It's at usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[08:59] <farciarz84> hi I would like to make a video for youtube from (mp3+jpgs). Is there any tool for linux (as easy and as good as Windows Movie Maker)?
[08:59] <hane> yes
[08:59] <Riverthief> When did you originally download it? Was it for a x32 guest OS?
[08:59] <hane> yes iflema
[09:00] <ultraparadigm> Riverthief, No it was the AMD64 version
[09:00] <Riverthief> hmm
[09:00] <dacs> anyone worked with hfs file system
[09:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> hooplah file system
[09:01] <Riverthief> ultraparadigm, I'm not sure what's wrong tbh. You should open a support ticket on the VB site :P
[09:01] <ultraparadigm> It runs windows just fine too.  I'm trying to share folders though so I need the GA and it tells me it can't mount the image
[09:02] <ultraparadigm> Riverthief, I may do that.   Do you have any idea what "(VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED)" means
[09:02] <Riverthief> Nope, unless it's some sort of file permissions prob
[09:02] <ultraparadigm> hmm
[09:02] <Riverthief> sudo chmod +x /path/to/file
[09:02] <hane> iflema my english isnt good but i know computer terms so
[09:02] <ultraparadigm> yeah maybe
[09:03] <ultraparadigm> I'm installing windows again on another guest so that I can make sure it's not because my original virtual drive actually resides on an NTFS drive
[09:03] <ardchoille> Riverthief: Whoa, wait, security flags going up here. Why would you need to use sudo to chmod +x a file?
[09:04] <Riverthief> It's just force of habit for me
[09:04] <iflema> hane do they return after you log in/out or even reboot?
[09:04] <ardchoille> Riverthief: You wouldn't get me to do that unless I knew exactly what that file does, that's a security issue IMHO
[09:05] <Riverthief> it's a guest additions .iso.
[09:05] <ultraparadigm> ardchoille, we are taking about a very save .iso file from Virtual box that doesn't seem to want to mount
[09:05] <Riverthief> It will not pose any sort of security risk.
[09:05] <ardchoille> ultraparadigm: Ah, ok
[09:05] <ultraparadigm> I'm going to reboot after I install windows on another guest and see what happens
[09:05] <hane> iflema no i dont but that was second time
[09:07] <khetti> is it possible to change mouse refresh rate in linux?
[09:07] <iflema> hane what language you speak best?
[09:07] <hane> iflema russian and turkish
[09:07] <ultraparadigm> Man, I'm so excited.  If this virtualbox work out I might just mount my windows partition as a /home directory and just virtualize
[09:07] <hane> iflema what ever
[09:08] <hane> iflema thaks for help
[09:08] <Riverthief> why are you saying "iflema" before everything?
[09:08] <Riverthief> >.>
[09:08] <Riverthief> :P
[09:10]  * iflema nostrovia
[09:11] <c00p> Hi all - Got a quicky to see if anyone here can get me a better answer than I can think of
[09:11] <c00p> I am setting up a ubuntu box @ my mothers work in her lobby to only look @ her website - so I thought I would just not configure DNS and put in the hosts file the few sites they need
[09:12] <c00p> but I was wondering if there was a firefox plugin or something so I could use the box for others things (that will need DNS)
[09:12] <Jasonrj> Make sure to include facebook and myspace
[09:12]  * iflema youtube
[09:13] <c00p> e.g. every user but the one in the lobby can (i.e. my account that i ssh in) can resolve DNS hosts if possible
[09:13] <c00p> na youtube, facebook and myspace are sites I don't want the kids to look @ ... She owns a dance school
[09:13] <c00p> but she does have videos hosted on youtube for it's a catch 22 there - Will porb have to allow Youtube
[09:13] <c00p> I know I could also use IPTables here ...
[09:15] <khetti> what are some tips to improve game performance? im getting random lags, stuttering etc, and the game doesnt feel as fluid as it should. quake3 specifically...
[09:15] <superboki> any experience with http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ ?
[09:15] <iflema> c00p firestarter will do it also
[09:17] <iflema> c00p block hostnames
[09:18] <iflema> c00p outbound policy = permissive = deny connection/service
[09:18] <c00p> iflema: firestarter just configures IPTables ...
[09:19] <c00p> I do believe ...
[09:19] <iflema> c00p so you wanna get dirty?
[09:19]  * c00p dosen't know what that means :\
[09:19] <iflema> c00p well... the hard way or the easy way
[09:20] <c00p> but I have written IPTables rules by hand for years ...
[09:20] <iflema> c00p sorry what was the question?
[09:20] <iflema> c00p just the plugin then?
[09:20] <c00p> Basically I want to allow 1 user to only go to 1 website ... and nothing else
[09:21] <Kentrel> Hi, I suddenly can't view any flash videos in firefox on Ubuntu. It just shows a white space where the video should be!
[09:21] <c00p> everyone else to go and do what ever ...
[09:21] <Polysics> anyone has pointers on how to get rid of PulseAudio?
[09:22] <Polysics> if i can't do that i have to go back to Windows, which might mean i will start screaming
[09:22] <iflema> c00p yeah fire starter = outgoing policy, restrictive = allow only one hostname the ability to use http,https,dns,dhcp
[09:23] <Kentrel> Polysics, just kill the process
[09:23] <iflema> c00p or craft a iptables string
[09:23] <c00p> iflema: Ta. Or I could just not configure DNS on the box and just add things into /etc/hosts :)
[09:23] <Polysics> Kentrel, i then need to replace PulseAudio with ALSA, i suppose
[09:23] <jack5463> can emac be used as an irc client?
[09:23] <Kentrel> yeah
[09:24] <iflema> c00p or ask others... just ignore me...
[09:24] <Kentrel> I can't get Skype to work with Pulseaudio. Its very frustrating
[09:24] <Kentrel> I've been using linux for 10 years and every single distro has shitty soundcard support
[09:24] <papul> Kentrel: try alsa
[09:24] <Kentrel> Its the number one thing I can guarentee to spend days configuring everytime I get a new distro
[09:25] <iflema> Kentrel oi.... pulse is the best yet...lol
[09:25] <c00p> Kentrel: what sound card do you have ?
[09:25] <Kentrel> Its onboard sound, but I've had it with the major soundcards too
[09:25] <Kentrel> I can't select Alsa in Skype
[09:25] <Kentrel> Its pulseaudio or bust
[09:26] <iflema> Kentrel its not linux..... its the manufacturers
[09:26] <c00p> I've always had creatives in my desktop and worked a treat in Linux - don't try opensolaris :)
[09:26] <c00p> it and sound = more fail than Linux :)
[09:28] <ultraparadigm> YAY!  Reboot fixeded it!
[09:29] <Teclys> for some reason, certain pages won't load on firefox or chrome, but they do on opera
[09:29] <ultraparadigm> It was trying to make windows think that the ISO image was from the CDROM so it needed control of the CDrom which for some reason it didn't have because I kept opening and closing it and it got unmounted or something
[09:30] <Teclys> when i try to load http://students.asu.edu/employment/search/details?id=23861 it just brings up a white page with no source
[09:30] <ultraparadigm> anyway, it mounted the image and I can setup shared drives now!  YAY!
[09:30] <setkeh> does any one know if ubuntu server live cd starts with sshd so i can install over ssh???
[09:31] <Teclys> does anyone else have problems loading that page?
[09:32] <iflema> Teclys shes there
[09:33] <Teclys> hmm. weird. it works in opera a ok
[09:33] <TonyTate> So I have an ext4 /home partition I want to mount to a xubuntu 8.04 system. How do I do it?
[09:33] <Teclys> just not in firefox or chrome.
[09:33] <jack5463> what's the name of the irc client in ubuntu?
[09:33] <TonyTate> It seems 8.04 doesn't support ext4.
[09:33] <nrg> there are many
[09:33] <unRuhe> is there a user management tool like kde's 'kuser' for gnome and if so whats its name?
[09:34] <SwedMike> TonyTate: if it doesn't support it, then it doesn't work. you have to copy the information to another place and reformat.
[09:35] <iflema> setkeh server is not live..... install only
[09:36] <setkeh> iflema: ok but can it be installed over ssh ???
[09:36] <TonyTate> \join #ubuntu-es
[09:36] <TonyTate> Damn LaTex.
[09:37] <geirha> TonyTate: Hehe :)
[09:37] <iflema> setkeh ssh install are possible... of server not sure.. ill have a look
[09:37] <setkeh> iflema:  cheers :D
[09:38] <Fjordside> anyone know a tool for menu bar to show network dl/upload speed?
[09:39] <DJones> !irc | jack5463 Typically xchat/pidgin for Ubuntu, irssi if you prefer a text based client, and I'm not sure about kubuntu's default
[09:39] <iflema> setkeh https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[09:40] <setkeh> iflema:  thanks mate
[09:40] <Untouchab1e_> why is it that the performance in Windows decreases over time while *nix systems dont. It seems like the stability and performance of Windows is affected by the amount of software installed or at least by the installation of certain software, while in Unix, the only thing that seems to affect performance is the amount of proccesses running at a given time
[09:40] <Teclys> in other news, i can get my sound card to play a noise a startup and when i click test in multimedia settings, but no other time, and i don't know how to fix this. any ideas?
[09:40] <Untouchab1e_> I reckon the system registry in Windows is relevant, as it has to handle the ever increasing registry.. while in Linux you just handle single files..
[09:40] <Untouchab1e_> but there must be something more
[09:41] <Teclys> lots of programs on windows run small background processes that are horrible wasters of memory, and over time these can build up in the background
[09:41] <geirha> Untouchab1e_: Not much spyware for linux, so no spyware reducing performance, and no antivirus checking your every move
[09:41] <unRuhe> Untouchab1e_, maybe redundant libaries in windows too
[09:42] <iflema> setkeh apparently a live cd with ssh server installed will get you started....... = mission
[09:42] <Untouchab1e_> geirha: I am sure spyware is a culprit, but its not a core reason imho.. Because regardless of spyware or not, boot times increase, general system performance decreases and stability becomes shabby as well
[09:42] <jack5463> ubottu, i saw someone using google translator inside irc. said he wrote it with emac. Is there documentation on how to do that?
[09:43] <iflema> setkeh pxe
[09:43] <Untouchab1e_> unRuhe: maybe, but isnt that fixable?
[09:43] <unRuhe> most windows software comes without dependencies, if the prog need f.e. a python interpreter it will be shipped with the program
[09:43] <alias_d> so for some reason i cant get virtualbox to "see" my ubuntu.iso to install it on the virtual machine i have created for it
[09:43] <alias_d> what am i missing?
[09:44] <geirha> Untouchab1e_: filesystem fragmentation is also a problem on windows
[09:44] <Untouchab1e_> geirha: regardless of using NTFS or FAT?
[09:45] <KenBW2> I'm using the following command $ rsync -vzr -e 'ssh -p 2222' --progress --exclude 'meta' "/home/kenneth/Websites/Haygarth Practice" kenbw2@haygarth-practice.co.uk:www/testbed.haygarth-practice.co.uk/
[09:45] <ultraparadigm> Do I need to install device drivers in my Virtualbox Windows?
[09:45] <KenBW2> but i want the *contents* pf Haygarth Practice to be synced to the remote folder. what am i doing wrong?
[09:46] <tiger2wander> Hi all
[09:47] <geirha> Untouchab1e_: I'm not an expert on the subject, but I believe ntfs is an improvement over FAT, but still does get fragmented. ext[2-4] goes to great lengths avoiding fragmentation in the first place.
[09:47] <Untouchab1e> geirha: interesting..
[09:48] <Untouchab1e> NTFS is not a journaling filesystem.. is that the reason why its so exposed to fragmentation?
[09:48] <tiger2wander> How about bug internal SD card reader not detected by kernel without card plugged-in?
[09:48] <tiger2wander> I'm using 9.10 64 bit desktop version on HP Compaq CQ45
[09:49] <tiger2wander> Anyone?
[09:51] <electhor> tiger2wander: What is the problem? I guess you have already stated it, but I don't have any logs of the issue
[09:52] <ardchoille> tiger2wander: that's normal.. only file systems are mounted and detected and there's no file system on a card reader unless the card is in the reader
[09:53] <tiger2wander> electhor, my internal card reader is not detected by kernel if I have not plug card into it, but if I reboot my computer with card inside slot then I'll see the device detected by command: lspci
[09:53] <ardchoille> tiger2wander: my external SD card readers are the same way
[09:54] <tiger2wander> ardchoille, The last time I've used Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit and I can see the card reader in the list of lspci command
[09:55] <tiger2wander> Even after I have do insmod or modprobe command to insert sd card reader kernel module, my card reader device is not show in list of lspci
[09:55] <nick635mirc1> ciao atutti
[09:55] <nick635mirc1> !list
[09:56] <c00p> iflema: I thnakyou for your suggestion
[09:56]  * iflema :)
[10:00] <iflema> whats the setting to make xchat sound when one gets a highlighted message or whatever.....not private?
[10:00] <abu> hello any one tell me the command to install netscape browser
[10:02] <iceroot> abu: i dont think there is a netscape browser anymore. try apt-cache search netscape to find out and use sudo apt-get install packagename
[10:02] <iflema> abu netscape/seamonkey? firefox?
[10:02] <abu> i tried
[10:02] <iceroot> abu: why not using firefox?
[10:03] <electhor> tiger2wander: You could try the command lshw - it always suggests running lshw as superuser, but I would only do that if the sd card port doesn't show up in non-superuser mode
[10:03] <abu> i have some work with netscape
[10:04] <mdziczkowski> hey
[10:05] <tiger2wander> electhor, I did it but no any information about my card reader :(
[10:05] <iflema> abu seamonkey is whats left of netscdape communicator
[10:05] <geirha> abu: «AOL officially announced that support for Netscape Navigator would end on 1 March, 2008, and recommended that its users download either the Flock or Firefox browsers, both of which were based on the same technology.» - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape
[10:05] <iflema> abu seamonkey is netscape communicator
[10:06] <abu> ok
[10:07]  * iflema i used to luv netscape 4
[10:07] <nulled> when I  apt-get install desktop-lubuntu (note that's LUbuntu) apt says it is going to remove network-manager... why? And is this going to hose my Ubuntu install? I just want to RET out Lubuntu, thx
[10:07] <mdziczkowski> I have an problem with my Ubuntu. I try to prevent bluetooth from running at start and I get following results:
[10:09] <mdziczkowski> after typing the # update-rc.d bluetooth stop 50 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 . command, I get following error:
[10:09] <mdziczkowski> update-rc.d: warning: bluetooth start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[10:09] <mdziczkowski> update-rc.d: warning: bluetooth stop runlevel arguments (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (0 1 6)
[10:09] <mdziczkowski>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/bluetooth already exist.
[10:09] <FloodBot4> mdziczkowski: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <nulled> update-rc.d bluetooth stop 1 5
[10:10] <geirha> mdziczkowski: It doesn't make sense to stop a service in all runlevels
[10:10] <nulled> too many run levels
[10:10] <CopyWriter> hello all
[10:11] <mdziczkowski> even if I tryed to stop in fewer ones I got same error
[10:11] <nulled> when I  apt-get install desktop-lubuntu (note that's LUbuntu) apt says it is going to remove network-manager... why? And is this going to hose my Ubuntu install? I just want to try out Lubuntu, thx
[10:11] <geirha> mdziczkowski: If you want to disable it, see the man-page (it has examples)
[10:11] <CopyWriter> hey guys i want to migrate my accounting department to ubuntu specifically hardy but my wireless card isn't supported it's advantek
[10:11] <mdziczkowski> I tryed them, but I got only errors
[10:11] <CopyWriter> 30 pc with advantek cards any ideas on what should i do
[10:12] <nulled> CopyWriter: Contact linuxDrivers.com and report it and ask
[10:12] <CopyWriter> it works with jaunty on th live cd but im not sure for how much longer jaunty is supported
[10:12] <CopyWriter> thanks nulled going to give that a try now
[10:13] <nulled> CopyWriter: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[10:14] <CopyWriter> thanks again first url had me fishing around
[10:14] <ubuntu> hi
[10:16] <julikoko> hi all
[10:16] <julikoko> please i have some questions to ask
[10:16] <nulled> CopyWriter: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[10:17] <julikoko> is anybody ready to answer
[10:17] <Demostene> julikoko: try to ask ;)
[10:17] <calrik> hi all, instead of having my second hdd which is ntfs I want to format it ext3 or ext 4 what should mount this as?
[10:18] <CopyWriter> thanks nulled this is absolutely going to be help
[10:18] <julikoko> thanks demostene
[10:18] <calrik> knowing my main hdd is mounted as root already mounting the whole of the linux filesystem
[10:18] <julikoko> pls which distro of ubuntu is the latest?
[10:19] <om26er> julikoko: karmic
[10:19] <calrik> I guess what Im asking is should I just make up a folder and mount it as that
[10:19] <calrik> ?
[10:19] <om26er> !karmic | julikoko
[10:19] <julikoko> i tanx guys
[10:19] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, when i move my cursor to the side and let it disappear so i can watch a movie.. it REAPPEARS AND DISAPPEARS. it's annoying, what should I do?
[10:20] <julikoko> wld download that right away
[10:20] <rayno_b> hi there - I've got an ntfs hdd in my ubuntu machine that I want to run a utility on so that I can check it for bad sectors.  Can anyone suggest a method or software?
[10:20] <julikoko> im currently running on 9.04
[10:20] <om26er> RocketLauncher: try a mouse pad
[10:20] <RocketLauncher> om26er,
[10:21] <calrik> alright maybe I rephrase my question abit better, how would you guys go about formatting and mounting a second hdd formatted with ext4. This hdd will be mainly storing music and videos
[10:21] <om26er> RocketLauncher: yes? laser mouse often move freely
[10:21] <RocketLauncher> xev says nothing
[10:22] <om26er> !test > om26er
[10:22] <petsounds> my microphone on skype suddenly stop working, any clue?
[10:23] <om26er> petsounds: try alsa
[10:23] <om26er> petsounds: open terminal, type gstreamer-properties and then for input device select ALSA
[10:23] <RocketLauncher> om26er, its not my mouse
[10:24] <petsounds> om26er, kkk let me try.
[10:24] <om26er> RocketLauncher: tried disabling compiz?
[10:24] <RocketLauncher> om26er, nobody uses compiz
[10:24] <nulled> petsounds: right click your Speaker icon in task bar, goto Preferences, and Application tab... and mess without tabs there
[10:24] <om26er> RocketLauncher: many people do *many* )
[10:24] <RocketLauncher> my crt is my spinnan cube
[10:24] <calrik> :( no one has answer to my question, was my question not phrased correctly I do people here do not know?
[10:25] <Demostene> calrik: what was your question?
[10:25] <calrik> scroll up
[10:25] <nulled> calrik: if you are messing around with mount... that can be potentially distructive... this is a beginners chat
[10:25] <Dravekx> can someone help me setup a virtual directory?
[10:25] <petsounds> om26er, nulled thanks bro.
[10:26] <rayno_b> hi there - I've got an ntfs hdd in my ubuntu machine that I want to run a utility on so that I can check it for bad sectors.  Can anyone suggest a method or software?
[10:26] <calrik> I am not a beginner...
[10:26] <nulled> calrik: and neither is the mount command, THIS channel is for beginners
[10:26] <calrik> sorry didnt think organise a partion in ubuntu was beyond this channel
[10:27] <calrik> beginners don't set up secondary hard drives?
[10:27] <DJones> calrik: Its not, #ubuntu is for all support questions regardless of difficulty
[10:27] <RocketLauncher> c&p my question see if someone else knows
[10:27] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, when i move my cursor to the side and let it disappear so i can watch a movie.. it REAPPEARS AND DISAPPEARS. it's annoying, what should I do?
[10:27] <om26er> calrik: although i didnot understand the question ubuntuforums.org
[10:27] <iflema> calrik usually mounted @ /mnt or /media
[10:27] <nulled> calrik: you have to copy the old partiton to a temp folder, mount the partition and copy the data to new partition
[10:27] <Demostene> nulled: you mean I shoudn't help calrik to setup a new hd in his PC?
[10:28] <Dravekx> anyone?
[10:28] <Dravekx> I need to setup WEB access with APACHE so users in their home directories can upload websites. how do I do that?
[10:28] <nulled> calrik: oh, in that case..  mkdir -p /new/drive then mount it... use man mount for help
[10:29] <DJones> calrik: Assuming you don't need the data on the 2nd hdd, gparted should be able to format & partition it as you need, then create whatever mount points you want in /media or /mnt and then mount it as needed
[10:29] <calrik> the partion is already backed up etc, all I want to know is the best place to store the new mount, /media/hdd2 ?
[10:29] <iflema> mkfs.ext4 once mounted.... devices mounted under /media will show on the desktop
[10:30] <calrik> then just create any folder I need?
[10:30] <Demostene> calrik: yes
[10:30] <iflema> calrik yes
[10:30] <calrik> thank you :)
[10:31] <Demostene> calrik: after you reboot you have to mount it again .... unless you set it up in fstab
[10:31] <RocketLauncher> Mouse reappears and disappears every once in a while while playing a video fullscreen in smplayer. I dont move my mouse. Not a mouse problem, I've definitely checked..
[10:32] <calrik> Demostene: Is there a gui tool for setting up fstab or will I have to manually put it in the config file?
[10:32] <CopyWriter> hey guys is it possible that i can have a cloud server on my local network with authentication so that when a user puts a file in a specific folder it synchronizes
[10:32] <Demostene> calrik: if such a toll exists I'm not aware of it; I'm used to vi ;)
[10:33] <om26er> calrik: pastebin your fstab please
[10:33] <calrik> kk lol
[10:33] <calrik> om26er: haven't done it yet
[10:33] <om26er> calrik: sorry pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[10:34] <calrik> last question is there really much difference performance wise to switch from ntfs to ext3/4?
[10:34] <Guest13578> hi everyone im having a problem with a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10.....i can change my screen res and its set waaaay too low i tried to have a look at xorg.conf but there doesnt appear to be one
[10:34] <om26er> Guest13578: please change your name. which gpu are you using?
[10:34] <iflema> calrik the ext's are a far better choice
[10:34] <Demostene> calrik: I don't know; what kind of usage are you going for?
[10:35] <ultraparadigm> Guest13578, You mean you *can* change your screen resolution, or you *can't*?
[10:35] <Guest13578> i have an nvidia riva tnt2 64 pro card and i mean i cant change it and how do i change my nick lol
[10:35] <calrik> Demostene: hmm streaming music/video so pretty high usage
[10:35] <Guard1an> Guest13578, /nick yournick
[10:36]  * om26er think /nick don't work in empathy 2.28.x
[10:36] <ultraparadigm> Guest13578, Go to "System > Display"
[10:36] <karhu> im using chatzilla
[10:36] <calrik> thanks heaps all I will get back to you with my pastebin of fdisk -l after I format my hdd
[10:36] <DJones> !nvidia | karhu
[10:36] <ultraparadigm> karhu, did you go to "System > Display"?
[10:36] <karhu> i tried to change it thru system/display but it only has very low resolutions
[10:37] <ultraparadigm> ok, you might need the proprietary drivers
[10:37] <om26er> karhu: then you need to install the nvidia driver
[10:37] <ultraparadigm> I had the same issue
[10:37] <karhu> do i get that from nviadia or somewhere else ?
[10:37] <DJones> karhu: You probably need to go to Hardware Drivers and install the nvidia driver
[10:37] <karhu> nvidia*
[10:37] <Demostene> calrik: is the disk going to stay all the time connected to your linux? ext3/4 are very good filesystems but NTFS is far more deployed in other OSes
[10:37] <om26er> karhu: system>administration>hardware drivers
[10:38] <karhu> i went to hardware drivers and it said i have no proprietry drivers or something like that
[10:38] <ultraparadigm> karhu, go to "Administration > Hardware drivers"
[10:38] <ultraparadigm> Did you see one listed that said not active?
[10:38] <DJones> karhu: How old is the nvidia tnt card, if its what I think, its quite an old card which might not be supported anymore, I've got an old nvidia geforce 2 which only works with the open source nv driver
[10:38] <karhu> i read somewhere to use the legacy drivers but apt-get tells me they arent there anymore
[10:38] <om26er> karhu: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then try again
[10:39] <karhu> i did all that just came back from a reboot
[10:39] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:39] <karhu> tnt2 is older than geforce2
[10:41] <silverraindog> morning
[10:41] <jellow_> silverraindog: good day
[10:42] <Crazymethjesus> shut the fuck up!!
[10:42] <DJones> !language | Crazymethjesus
[10:42] <nulled> ya family
[10:42] <nulled> :)
[10:43]  * iflema :)
[10:43] <DJones> karhu: I'm not sure what to suggest, I can;t install any nvidia drivers because of the age of the card & it not being supported any longer, but the default driver does give me a resolution of 1600x1200
[10:44] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection, please help me
[10:44] <karhu> im not fussed about 3d but its pretty essential that i can up the res because atm i cant even see the bottom of windows so i gotta hit enter and hope the correct button was selected lol
[10:45] <karhu> could it have anything to do with the fact that im running on an LCD tv ? its always worked fine for me before tho
[10:45] <RocketLauncher> Mouse reappears and disappears every once in a while while playing a video fullscreen in smplayer. I dont move my mouse. Not a mouse problem, I've definitely checked..
[10:46] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:46] <karhu> try turning ur mouse over onto its back when u watch video's...see if that stops it
[10:47] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection, Please help
[10:50] <brijith> hi All, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:50] <brijith> Please help
[10:50] <richiguada> what do you happen?
[10:51] <calrik> ok from my http://pastebin.com/d791e58a6 can someone please help me with what entry I need to put into fstab to make sdb1 automount at boot?
[10:51] <silverraindog> brijith: can you get mail from the outside ?
[10:52] <karhu> should ubuntu 9.10 have an xorg.conf file ?
[10:52] <brijith> silverraindog: i can access mail from browser
[10:53] <iflema> calrik read/write or read/only?
[10:53] <ziroday> calrik: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab ?
[10:53] <ziroday> karhu: nope
[10:54] <calrik> ziroday: no I had someone help me in this channel just before and they told me to pastebin my fdisk -l
[10:54] <brijith> silverraindog: any idea ?
[10:54] <calrik> iflema: read/write but never mind I will work it out from the link ziroday just give me thanks all
[10:55] <karhu> can we still get linux drivers from nvidia ?
[10:55] <Kransac> Hi everyone
[10:56]  * iflema v.v
[10:57] <pat|nG> i got 1 notebook with 3 partitions 80gb each partition..my primary os is vista and 1 80 i'm plannin to install ubuntu....from 80gb can i still make partition to that in installing ubuntu?
[10:59] <Kransac> I have a problem with my external hard drive (Mybook 1To) that I can't access. I belive it's because of (among other) the pratition table. I tried an fsck but it took more than 12 hours for nothing.
[10:59] <Kransac> I don't care about the data on it
[10:59] <Kransac> Is there a way to format it?
[10:59] <Kransac> gparted doesn't recogize it
[11:00] <ziroday> Kransac: does it appear in the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[11:00] <Demostene> Kransac: gparted can't see it?? Is it connected through USB?
[11:00] <karhu> i just d/l'd the legacy linux driver from nvidia..does anyone know whether it will actually work or not ? due to not having an xorg.conf file?
[11:01] <ziroday> karhu: why not install the driver from the repo's?
[11:01] <dunc> hiya folks, i'm following this guide to setup a custom X session... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession , it's all fine apart from the guide says to pick "Default System Session" from the sessions menu to run my own .xsession file, but my menu has no such option
[11:01] <Demostene> karhu: create that file with text from mvidia
[11:01] <karhu> cause i cant find it in the repo's
[11:01] <dunc> anybody know how to tell gdm to use my own .xsession?
[11:01] <ziroday> karhu: which driver are you attempting to install? And which card do you have?
[11:02] <Dravekx> can someone help me setup a virtual directory for apache???
[11:02] <Dravekx> Im totally lost and dont understand it.
[11:02] <ziroday> karhu: please keep it in the main channel
[11:03] <karhu> ok but its very hard for me to keep up cause i can only see two lines of text at a time lol
[11:03] <Demostene> karhu: just create /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:03] <karhu> due to the low res
[11:04] <ziroday> karhu: one sec
[11:04] <Kransac> Demostene: ziroday: Yes it appears in fdisk -I as sdb1. I gave an other try to gparted unplugging and trurning of the HDD, it is now seen by gparted
[11:04] <Dravekx> I want to setup a user so he can have web access to his home directory. is that what a virtual directory does?
[11:05] <ziroday> karhu: I'd recommend trying either the -nv or -nouveau drivers. envyng may also be able to help you but that is a very, very old card
[11:05] <karhu> ok so what do i have to do?
[11:05] <Demostene> Kransac: so you should now be able to format it with gparted
[11:05] <ziroday> karhu: well do you want to use -nv, -nouveau or give envyng a shot?
[11:06] <iflema> Dravekx maybe also try #apache
[11:06] <karhu> whatever is easiest and or most likely to work lol atm i will be happy to get a decent res so i can see everything im trying to do properly lol
[11:06] <Dravekx> iflema, they sent me here
[11:06] <Kransac> Demostene: Yes. Thank you. But Kind of feel that I'm going to have some more problem : I can't format and Fat32
[11:06] <iflema> Dravekx really
[11:07] <Dravekx> yes
[11:07] <ziroday> karhu: okay, well do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[11:07] <karhu> ok i'll give it a go
[11:07] <karhu> thanks :-)
[11:08] <Demostene> Kransac: I suppose gparted can only format ext2/3/4 ... if you want FAT32 you should use other tools if not other os (windows)
[11:08] <karhu> it says xserver-xorg-video-nv is already the newest version ?
[11:08] <iflema> Dravekx http://blog.damontimm.com/how-to-redirect-apaches-default-www-or-public_html-folder-to-a-directory-in-your-home-folder/
[11:09] <ziroday> karhu: okay, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <Dravekx> iflema, cant do that.. my main page is in /var/www
[11:09] <Dravekx> I want a user to be able to put his home directory on the internet.
[11:09] <Kransac> What file format would you recommand me (linux only use) : fat32, ext3 or ext4? And do you know roughly how long it should take to format 1To? Beause it seems to me that it take years, and that the HDD is now working very hard. Hence I'm wondering if the problem is not material
[11:09] <karhu> ok...was it meant to do anything ?
[11:09] <iflema> Dravekx so link it
[11:09] <ziroday> karhu: just checking it was installed
[11:10] <Dravekx> iflema, I cant get symlinks to work. :(
[11:10] <Demostene> zoroday: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:10] <Dravekx> they work via ssh, but not FTP.
[11:10] <iflema> Dravekx i get em bcakwards.... man ln
[11:10] <Demostene> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:11] <blubaustin> hello
[11:11] <Demostene> Dravek: mod_userdir
[11:11] <chipgeri> how to install apache 2.2 and php 5.2.10?
[11:11] <Dravekx> Demostene, ???
[11:11] <Explore1> what is bt8x8??
[11:11] <blubaustin> I just compiled proftpd 1.3.2c with mod_ban as a compiled-in module but... I am getting this error on the ftpdctl ban info "ftpdctl: error contacting server using '/usr/local/var/proftpd/proftpd.sock': Connection refused"
[11:12] <iflema> Dravekx just use/create a group and allow access that way... just for purposes of www
[11:12] <DJones> Kransac: Karmic uses ext4 as default, although upgrades will use whatever was previously there.  For data storage, I use ext3 because thats what it was originally set up as, if i did a new drive, i'd use ext4 now
[11:13] <Kransac> DJones: Ok, thank you
[11:13] <chipgeri> where will httpd.conf files be in apache?
[11:13] <Demostene> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:14] <tuntun> does anyone know where I can download dolphin emulator for linux?
[11:16] <chipgeri> my httpd.conf is empty..how do i configure apache 2.2?
[11:17] <pvh_sa> hey there, i've got ubuntu 9.10 in a dual-monitor setup on a fujitsu lifebook, and compiz won't work - any ideas? compiz isn't giving me any error messages to follow up :(
[11:19] <Thomas_Ludwig> Maybe someone has an idea what I can do. I used sudo chmod -R 644 /* (OMG) and now I have the problem that the system isnt booting. The msg at boot: run-init: /sbin/init: Permission denied kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[11:20] <Thomas_Ludwig> but i already set the right to 755 for /sbin/init
[11:21] <MDGrey> hello guys
[11:21] <MDGrey> while installing squid my apt got broken...can anyone help
[11:21] <Demostene> Thomas: I don't think there is a database with default permissions for every file in the system
[11:22]  * MDGrey wants to be pinged
[11:22] <MDGrey> are my messages going through
[11:23] <DJones> MDGrey: yes, we can see your messages, the channels pretty quiet at the minute though
[11:23] <superboki> Ping reply from MDGrey: 0.95 second(s)
[11:25] <MDGrey_-> hello guys
[11:28] <papul> pretty silent today
[11:29] <POC|Farmer> is there anyone who knows a workaround for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-xserver-utils/+bug/364091 ?
[11:29] <MDGrey_-> guys anybody know what that means subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:31] <arand> MDGrey_-: it is a genreic "something went wrong" message.
[11:31] <MDGrey_-> while installing squid I got this error "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"  any idea what that means and how to getover it I cant even apt-get update,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[11:32] <tmus> In a PEAP setup (for wireless authentication), I want to limit the authentication to a certain Called-Station-Id... I've tried something like this is the users file but to no avail - should this work?  DEFAULT Called-Station-Id =~ ":WIFISSID$", Auth-Type == EAP
[11:32] <papul> i recently compiled the latest version of openssl. is it ok?
[11:32] <tmus> Leaving out the Called-Station-Id part of the DEFAULT string, everything just works
[11:33] <viliny> Hey! is it possible to mount a online location locally?
[11:33] <viliny> a http to be precise
[11:35] <MDGrey_-> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/squid: file does not exist   how can i fix this
[11:36] <Ubuntut> hello room!:-D
[11:36] <papul> Ubuntut: its channel btw
[11:37] <MDGrey_-> i created a file using touch /etc/init.d/squid seems to have worked
[11:37] <rob_p_> MDGrey_-: maybe squid3
[11:37] <Saturn2888> Can someone to check my sources-list file and preferences to see if I got everything right please? http://pastie.org/786262 What I'm aiming for is only installing libc6 from the karmic repos, everything else I don't want.
[11:38] <Kransac> Ok, well it seems like my problem is solved. Thanks for you help
[11:38] <rob_p_> MDGrey_-: creating an empty init file for squid won't do anything useful as far as getting it to run...
[11:38] <vlad_tepes1969> #NonSoloWii
[11:38] <viliny> does anyone know if it's possible to mount a web folder locally in ubuntu?
[11:40] <Saturn2888> viliny: yes, both ftp and sftp
[11:40] <viliny> how about http?
[11:40] <Saturn2888> viliny: I'm sure there's a way, but I don't know specifically.
[11:40] <uphy> hi
[11:40] <viliny> it's just a web folder shared by my home machine and id like to mount a location on it so that i can access my files as if they were on this laptop
[11:40] <viliny> standard apache web server
[11:41] <acicula> viliny: you need an http file system , dunno if anyone made such a module
[11:41] <dunc> viliny, isn't that the sort of thing that DAV does?
[11:41] <viliny> dunc: it's starting to look like it yes
[11:41] <acicula> ie like smbfs,ftpfs and such
[11:42] <viliny> well thanks all :) i need to read into webdav
[11:42] <acicula> seems theres a module for webdav
[11:43] <Saturn2888> anyone  used apt-preferences file before?
[11:44] <MDGrey_-> whats a good squid version for a very heavy load
[11:44]  * dunc is beginning to wonder if it's because i've got crypted homedir, gdm can't see my .xsession file to use
[11:45] <acicula> dunc: if its not unencrypted yeh
[11:46] <MDGrey_-> how can i get apt to install squid 2.7.8?
[11:47] <acicula> MDGrey_-: you'd have to manually install it if its not in the repo, BUT, very likely the package is either unmaintained or outdated or both
[11:47] <calrik> acicula: or its beta quality
[11:48] <acicula> calrik: oh its a newer version :P?
[11:48] <acicula> MDGrey_-: then that too
[11:48] <calrik> eg the latest nvidia drivers are considered "beta", they are not on the repo but are quiet stable...
[11:49] <MDGrey_-> this is the one i got in apt  2.7.STABLE3-4.1ubuntu1   but it has a bug
[11:50] <MDGrey_-> so I need  2.7.STABLE8
[11:50] <calrik> MDGrey: what is the bug you are mentioning?
[11:50] <calrik> all kernel releases have some bugs of some sort
[11:51] <Saturn2888> did anyone know about my apt-preferences issue? I just need someone to look it over, make sure I wrote the file right
[11:51] <acicula> calrik: well beta sometimes means we dont want to actually support this when it breaks so we will just call it beta
[11:52] <calrik> acicula: good point lol
[11:52] <Dravekx> as a webhost, do I set users home directories to 755???
[11:52] <MDGrey_-> calrik i was facing lots of issue and i was recommended to upgrade to 2.7 8
[11:52] <karhu> does anyone here use the bigpond repo's ?
[11:53] <slayer_> where is
[11:53] <calrik> ah Im still using 2.6.31
[11:54] <slayer_> hi ,firend
[11:54] <slayer_> hello,everyone
[11:54] <iflema> Saturn2888 what version of ubuntu? backport ?
[11:55] <slayer_> who is administrator
[11:56] <slayer_> 中文能显示出来吗？
[11:56] <ziroday> !cn | slackd00d
[11:57] <iflema> Saturn2888 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:57] <ziroday> slackd00d: sorry
[11:57] <Saturn2888> iflema: yes, I know, I've read this, but I don't want to break anything. I just need someone to look at my 6-line file and say "look close enough"
[11:58] <iflema> Saturn2888 try backport over pin
[11:58] <Saturn2888> iflema: huh?
[11:59] <iflema> Saturn2888 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:59] <calrik> not sure if this the right place to ask but Im running ubuntu desktop, got some really good hard ware, 6gb ram etc, would be better to run ubuntu server in vmware and forward to that for hosting websites/mysql or just have apache etc installed locally?
[11:59] <Saturn2888> iflema: ah thanks
[12:03] <iflema> calrick say 2 vm's in a box would be a power saver
[12:06] <mbrochh> hi all. can anyone help me with the rsync command? i am using "rsync -av /source/ /destination/" but when I delete some folders from source they still exist at destination after another rsync run
[12:06] <iflema> calrick 1 a waste of time.. unless ya testing different setups constantly
[12:07] <mbrochh> i would expect the command to keep the destination exactly the same as the source
[12:09] <KoolD> performance wise is go-openoffice better than the openoffice provided by sun?
[12:09] <slava_dp> !grub
[12:10]  * iflema speaking of wasting time
[12:10] <kwork> does anyone know software what can show directorie sizes graphical from some point of filesystem
[12:10] <kwork> for linux that is
[12:10] <kwork> represent subdir sizes graphicaly
[12:10] <slava_dp> konqueror 3.5.10 used to do it
[12:11] <slava_dp> kwork, there is ncdu, which is console-mode, but it is pretty useful.
[12:11] <kwork> slava_dp, thanks for hint, ill look into it
[12:11] <xteejx> Help needed with evolution - it was connecting fine to gmail via pop and smtp, I haven't changed any settings or anything, but now it just keeps saying "error fetching mail"
[12:12] <ubuntu> hey all
[12:13] <xteejx> Hi, ubuntu, I'm using you hehe
[12:13] <iflema> kwork gnome = baobab
[12:13] <ubuntu> i have a question. my xp disk just decided now was a good time to corrupt its partition table and force me to install. So now, I have a decision to make. Install windows 7 or linux as my primary operating system. What I would prefer is having both like i did with windows xp, but does linux grub play nice with the windows7 / vista boot loader?
[12:14] <mbrochh> hi all. can anyone help me with the rsync command? i am using "rsync -av /source/ /destination/" but when I delete some folders from source they still exist at destination after another rsync run
[12:14] <xteejx> ubuntu: Yes, install 7 first, then linux
[12:14] <xteejx> I run dual boot no problems
[12:14] <ubuntu> so as long as I do windows 7 first, it will work
[12:14] <ubuntu> gotcha
[12:14] <kwork> or use two hdds
[12:15] <xteejx> ubuntu: Yeah, I mean you CAN do it the other way but it gets complicated
[12:15] <coz_> ubuntu,  make sure you defrag windows  before you install ubuntu
[12:15] <recmajkemi> does anyone else having unresponse issues, i can move the mouse but cant click, right click, or wheel scrool it
[12:15] <xteejx> windows 7 defrags on install, so there's no need
[12:15] <coz_> ubuntu,  unless you have separate hard drives
[12:15] <ubuntu> ok, nother question. I don't play many games, but I do play some. I was wondering if I could ditch windows completely but still be able to play my games. will ubuntu play games like CoD 6?
[12:15] <karhu> can someone give me a hand with adding a repo please ?
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: Honestly, as much as I love Ubuntu, very doubtful
[12:16] <bloopletech> I'm on hardy, and attempting to upgrade to karmic; AFAIK I run sudo do-release-upgrade, but that reports 'No new release found'
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: If it can, it's unlikely you will get any decent framerates
[12:16] <bloopletech> Am I doing something wrong?
[12:16] <ubuntu> ok, can't ditch windows completely yet :(
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: Unfortuantely, for the time being, not many can
[12:16] <ubuntu> bloopletech: you need the repos
[12:17] <ubuntu> once you have the correct repos in your sourceslist, you can use that command
[12:17] <bloopletech> ubuntu: ok thanks
[12:17] <xteejx> bloopletech: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[12:17] <bloopletech> Do I just get my current source list and replace hardy -> karmic?
[12:18] <ubuntu> well as much as i don't want to learn windows 7, looks like imma have to :(
[12:18] <Newky> bloopletech: you need to go into synaptic->settings->repositories->updates->release upgrade
[12:18] <xteejx> bloopletech: have you installed update-manager-core?
[12:18] <noXandOs> huh
[12:18] <bloopletech> xteejx: Yes, I did
[12:18] <xteejx> ubuntu: Why not run vi$ta?
[12:18] <Newky> bloopletech: make sure its on normal releases
[12:18] <bloopletech> Newky: This is from ssh, not GUI
[12:18] <ubuntu> because vista sucks
[12:18] <ubuntu> lol
[12:18] <jrib> !upgrade > bloopletech
[12:18] <jrib> bloopletech: follow the server instructions there
[12:18] <xteejx> already point him there
[12:18] <xteejx> *pointed
[12:19] <ubuntu> i hate that operating system with a passion. too bloated. windows 7 is basically vista SP3 :P
[12:19] <Newky> bloopletech: have u tryed sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[12:19] <josemaria> hi
[12:19] <xteejx> bloopletech: You're trying to upgrade another machine thru ssh?
[12:19] <bloopletech> xteejx: Yes, a VPS
[12:19] <Chetic> Anybody know how to get drivers for "Dell Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card" ?
[12:19] <Newky> bloopletech: that seems a little like suicide, hardy to karmic may not be all that smooth, a lot of releases in between
[12:19] <josemaria> I've a problem with Jaunty and Karmic, after more or less 1minute of booting, it hangs. /var/log/messages shows a kernel panic.
[12:19] <ubuntu> get the other half of the card and then install the full card driver?
[12:20] <josemaria> what should I do=
[12:20] <bloopletech> oh wait
[12:20] <xteejx> bloopletech: I wouldn't have thought there would be any differences, essentially you're just controlling the host system. Any errors with the do-release-upgrade ?
[12:20] <karhu> http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ this is the address my ISP gives me for their ubuntu repo but when i try to add the repo thru synaptic it wont let me
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, pastebin your lspci -nnk output with that device plugged in
[12:20] <flacom> hi all.. anyone knows iptables?? i got a vpn server on linux... when I client is connected it create a new pppN interface (n >= 0) how can I forward dynamic interfaces?
[12:20] <ubuntu> :P, i would guess probably off the dell side
[12:20] <ouyes> how can i make my ati vga work?
[12:21] <bloopletech> OHH. I misread hardy as being 9.04, not 8.04
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, using ati driver I suppose?
[12:21] <xteejx> bloopletech: Hardy is 8.04, 9.04 is Jaunty
[12:21] <ouyes> i tried the official driver but failed
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, not supported chipset?
[12:21] <xteejx> ouyes: fglrx only supports the newer radeons and X series
[12:21] <bloopletech> Ok, so if I want to migrate from hardy to karmic, what upgrade path should I follow, hardy -> jaunty -> karmic?
[12:21] <Newky> bloopletech: ur problem is that ur using hardy which is LTS, its configured to not show any upgrades that arent LTS releases as far as i no
[12:21] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i donot know
[12:21] <xteejx> bloopletech: You can do a direct upgrade
[12:21] <josemaria> this hang doesn't happens when I boot in recovery mode
[12:22] <jrib> bloopletech: hardy -> intrepid -> jaunty -> karmic
[12:22] <xteejx> Can't say how buggy it'll be but ANy errors post here
[12:22] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  my laptop is a thinkpad t400
[12:22] <josemaria> it's a page fault
[12:22] <slava_dp> mbrochh, regarding rsync, add --delete
[12:22] <jrib> bloopletech: skipping releases is not supported unless you are doing LTS -> LTS
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, xteejx had some valid info. I'd agree too, there was something about legacy ati drivers aren't getting the support in later builds of ubuntu
[12:22] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i saw the wiki for help, but still no luck
[12:22] <bloopletech> Thanks to all for their help, I'm getting come conflicting info
[12:22] <Newky> bloopletech: u dont have like a home partition
[12:22] <Newky> bloopletech: never mind ur sshing
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, what about the free one? not fglrx but the other
[12:23] <ouyes> so what can i do to get it work
[12:23] <bloopletech> Newky: what? I have ssh root access to my VPS box
[12:23] <xteejx> bloopletech: Look, you CAN do a direct upgrade but it's not advised. Doing it through ssh shouldn't cause any problems.
[12:23] <mbrochh> slava_dp, thank you for the reply! I did that but it didnt help... after some googling i found a suggestion like this: rsync -avzr --delete source dest
[12:23] <mbrochh> that did the job
[12:23] <Newky> bloopletech: now i was going to say u wud b better with a clean reinstall
[12:23] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, pastebin your lspci -nnk output with that ati video card
[12:23] <xteejx> not on a server
[12:23] <_spark> guys, when running an ubuntu-mobile live cd, would it be possible for me to change the xorg.conf to enable tv-out output?
[12:23] <mbrochh> --delete relies on the --recursive switch.. which is included in -a but somehow --delete doesnt recognize that so i had to write it explicitly
[12:24] <Topy44> anyone using cairo-dock, possibly in combination with UNR?
[12:24] <xteejx> bloopletech: All you need is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes explains everything with upgrading, problems you may encounter, and workarounds :)
[12:24] <ouyes> psycho_oreos, which one are you talking about? i am now afraid to try , i try to install the official driver but it doesnt work and i can not uninstall it following the instructions giving by the ati
[12:25] <Newky> Topy44: nope, but im using docky with UNR and its awesome
[12:25] <bloopletech> Actually, I'm rethinking my goals here
[12:25] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: http://www.pastebin.org/79171
[12:25] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, fglrx is the proprietary one by ati, there should be another one. I wouldn't know it off my head personally but pastebin lspci -nnk of your video chip first
[12:25] <Topy44> Newky: docky doesnt behave the way i like
[12:26] <bloopletech> What advantage would updating bring me? Is newer packages the main advantage?
[12:26] <xteejx> ouyes, the open source is ati-radeon I believe
[12:26] <xteejx> !radeon
[12:26] <Newky> Topy44: fair enuf, i understand not a fully complete dock, jus works for me, whats ur problem with cairo?
[12:26] <Topy44> main thing being subdocks which i dont think docky does
[12:26] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: Sorry just needed to pastebin the last device there
[12:26] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, you'll need wl driver
[12:27] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, 9.10?
[12:27] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: yes
[12:27] <Topy44> my problem is that most of the time it only appears when i move the mouse into the callback zone and then OUT of the dock area again, just for a quick flash
[12:27] <ouyes> >!pastebin
[12:27] <Topy44> so i dont cant actually use it
[12:27] <Newky> Topy44: sounds obvious but its not set to like autohide is it ?
[12:27] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  how to make the robot to help me about pastebin?
[12:28] <Topy44> of course it is, i want it to autohide
[12:28] <xteejx> !pastebin | ouyes
[12:28] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, !pastebin > ouyes
[12:28] <Topy44> but the problem is it doesnt appear before i move the cursor out of its area again
[12:28] <Topy44> it works fine while i'm looking at the desktop btw
[12:29] <universalinterfa> hello
[12:29] <universalinterfa> ciao
[12:29] <ouyes> !pastebinit
[12:30] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:31] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, try installing broadcom_sta drivers
[12:31] <Topy44> hm, i think i just found a solution - setting the position of cairo-dock to -1 fixes it, for unknown reasons (the problem only shows up while a full screen program has focus btw)
[12:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d32553bfe
[12:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  quite a few lines there
[12:32] <Newky> Topy44: nice one, was lookin on google for u, bu dont see many bugs with it
[12:33] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I found it: 1002:95c4
[12:33] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  oh mate you need the PID of the vga card?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> I thought that when using grub2 the 'update-grub' command/scripts would see/add windows to the listing
[12:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  just tell me that il  simply paste it here
[12:40] <DrManhattan> freenode is a mess today
[12:46] <calrik> freenode crash eh?
[12:47] <iflema> calrik there was only 150 in here for a while
[12:47] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[12:48] <calrik> ah I guessed a netsplit :)
[12:48] <pnukeid1> some has experience with subversion in ubuntu ?
[12:48] <Torz> hi
[12:48] <Torz> anyone here dual boots ubuntu, using WUBI?
[12:49] <usr13> slava_dp: Are you monitoring this channel?
[12:50] <slava_dp> usr13, i am, currently.
[12:50] <usr13> slava_dp: Are you trying to edit your menu.lst file?
[12:51] <researcher1> my windows Xp can access Internet but not Ubuntu. We access through proxy which I have configured correctly. Any help
[12:51] <usr13> Can you show is what is on it?
[12:51] <usr13> slava_dp: pastebin it the menu.lst file
[12:54] <calrik> this netsplit due to a denial of service attack?
[12:55] <usr13> calrik: I don't know but will be glad when it's over
[12:55] <shadenzo> hello all
[12:57] <usr13> calrik: I don't know that IRC servers are susceptical to DOS attacts, but I suppose so...
[13:00] <calrik> that vulneribility doesnt work now though but a DOS can still be a pain
[13:00] <jenda> I appear to have some problems with applications sharing audio devices. When amarok is running, any flash videos in firefox freeze and crash firefox - also, I can't run fallout in wine, which freezes as soon as it is to make the first sounds, reporting an ALSA/Pulseaudio error (unable to create stream, too large). Any ideas?
[13:00] <Indy^> Im trying to run ssh in the background on boot ...how should I do this, I've been beatin my head against the wall for a week now
[13:01] <Myrtti> Indy^: sshd?
[13:01] <Indy^> nah the client
[13:01] <Karhu> can someone help me with envyng please ? i installed envyng-core through synaptic but it wont start :-S do i also need to instal envyng-qt ?
[13:01] <calrik> jenda: I also had similiar problems just sec I will find link to the solution I found
[13:01] <jenda> Also, clicking "test" on the pulseaudio sound server in amarok freezes the app.
[13:01] <jenda> calrik: thanks
[13:01] <Indy^> I've tried to add it to init.d but I must not be getting the syntax correct
[13:03] <Leoneof`> hi, how to merge dependencies to be inside package *.deb ?
[13:03] <Indy^> I've also tried to add it to startup application but Im trying to run it without bring up the terminal window
[13:04] <BeardedChimp> I have a character device /dev/raw1394 that corresponds to the firewire on this computer. However it exists whether or it is plugged in. I am writing a script using the firewire and need to do something similar to doing text -x /somefile, to see if it has been plugged in. Any idea how?
[13:05] <SPeck84> Hy every one
[13:06] <dream_th> Hi i have ubuntu on a live usb  (persistent) and i have installed a custom kernel but cannot boot to it
[13:06] <asdff> I need some help with my ram consumption in Ubuntu Karmic
[13:06] <dream_th> it only boots on default kernel version
[13:06] <Indy^> mornin
[13:06] <asdff> I am 90% sure it is something I did wrong ^_^
[13:06] <SPeck84> Magyarok vannak itt?
[13:07] <SPeck84> Can we help my to configure the Samba server. PLease in private
[13:07] <pereirjo> hello
[13:07] <zvacet> ¡ hu | SPeck84
[13:07] <asdff> if I pastebin my process list with cpu/ram consumption could someone help me troubleshoot what is taking up so much memory? Gnome + Openbox + pcmanfm seem to take 30% of ram constantly. With firefox and xchat it is 50% memory. Should I pastebin my process list?
[13:07]  * dox_drum is trying to solve ODE's using SAGEMATH
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> asdff: how much ram do you got?
[13:08] <usr13> asdff: top
[13:08] <asdff> 1gb
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> asdff: thats to be expected then
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> firefox is especially memory hungry
[13:08] <asdff> I appreciate that, however I swear my gnome-session wasn't taking 30% a few days ago
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> you can reduce xchats memory consumptions somewhat by reducing the window buffer
[13:09] <pjotr> asdff, and unused ram is a waste
[13:09] <asdff> pjotr: really?
[13:09] <zvacet> !samba | SPeck84
[13:10] <nmvictor_> i got this error while compiling the linux kernel: make[1] *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 137, anyone know what could have gone wrong?
[13:10] <iflema> asdff 30% of 1gig 4 gnome sounds about right....
[13:11] <ardchoille> asdff: I'm getting about the same as you with the same apps
[13:11] <ardchoille> .. and I try to keep a lean system
[13:11] <pjotr> asdff: the Linux kernel is designed to use most of the available RAM for buffers and cache
[13:11] <asdff> ardchoille: ah really. cool that's a relief then :)>.
[13:11] <xteejx> nmvictor: Try removing ndiswrapper
[13:11] <xteejx> nmvictor: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15235.html
[13:11] <rubik> hi
[13:11] <asdff> If I just use an openbox session/awesmoe session it is fast as hell
[13:12] <superboki> port 443 is the standard https true/false?
[13:12] <bloopletech> well, my upgrade from herdy -> intrepid went well, I think I'll continue this in the morning
[13:12] <xteejx> superboki: isn't it port 81?
[13:12] <bloopletech> superboki: true
[13:12] <dream_th> Hi i have ubuntu on a live usb  (persistent) and i have installed a custom kernel but cannot boot to it it only boots on default kernel version, is there a way to boot it into this custom kernel?
[13:12] <MorphyNOR> superboki: yes
[13:12] <greenlantern> apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, is it correct to install codecs on kubuntu?
[13:13] <ardchoille> asdff: yeah, openbox is quite minimal
[13:13] <MorphyNOR> greenlantern: there should also be a notification thingy on the taskbar for that
[13:13] <papul> greenlantern: yea
[13:13] <asdff> ardchoille: yeah :). I really miss gnome-panels though. They are quite convenient.
[13:13] <ardchoille> greenlantern: yes
[13:13] <usr13> asdff: Have you looked at top?  Do you want to pasbebin the top 20 or so lines?
[13:13] <asdff> usr13: from what people are telling me it seems a bit pointless now, as my mem consumption is apparently normal
[13:13] <zvacet> greenlantern:  yes but if you want w32 codecs add medibuntu repo
[13:13] <greenlantern> Is there anything like "kubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[13:14] <zvacet> !medibuntu | greenlantern
[13:14] <ardchoille> asdff: you can use openbox in gnome instead of metacity, or use something like fluxbox which has its own panel
[13:14] <papul> greenlantern: no
[13:14] <asdff> ardchoille: yeah I use gnome-panel for my panels, openbox as my wmanager and pcmanfm as my file manager.
[13:14] <asdff> wtf @ these flood attacks
[13:15] <ardchoille> asdff: Sounds likeyou're keeping a lean system, good job
[13:15] <MorphyNOR> asdff: get used to it :(
[13:15] <ardchoille> asdff: they're netsplits
[13:15] <ardchoille> !netsplit
[13:15] <xteejx> Enjoy the show? Shut up ubotu hehe :)
[13:15] <ardchoille> hehe
[13:16] <asdff> ardchoille: haha cheers ;P. I've noticed though I had to edit my default gnome session to use that combinatino. Selecting Gnome/Openbox from the session manager on the login screen did not work.
[13:16] <soreau> ! samba > SPeck84
[13:16] <ivanc> hi all
[13:16] <asdff> hey
[13:16] <ardchoille> asdff: yeah, or you could have simply done "openbox --replace" inside gnome
[13:16] <nmvictor_> xteejx: doesnt seem solved?
[13:17] <asdff> ardchoille: how would I go about editing the default session options on the login screen though? (The arch linux wiki suggest editing ~/.xinitrc, however I do not have that file)
[13:17] <xteejx> nmvictor_: I was just looking at the suggestion that worked for someone else
[13:17] <yucatan1991> hello guys i have a IBM T500 with a radeon 3450 when i boot up ubuntu it says there is a new driver available for your graphics card but when i install it and i reboot my laptop i cant get in gnome anymore and my screen stays flashing at a black screen. does somebody know this problem how can i fix this?
[13:18] <ardchoille> asdff: I don't know
[13:18] <nmvictor_> xteejx: so you mean removing the ndiswrapper?
[13:18] <iflema> greenlantern kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:18] <xteejx> nmvictor_: It appears to have worked for someone else, it may be a known issue
[13:18] <zvacet> greenlantern : see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:18] <xteejx> !restricted
[13:19] <yucatan1991> correction its a ati radeon 3650
[13:19] <nmvictor_> xteejx: sorry this is my  first kernel compile experience, do you mind helping me with info on how to remove the module? i could try that
[13:19] <bobsomebody> does anyone know a good IRC for iphone app development?
[13:19] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: I'd either install the drivers from ATI's site or just use the existing drivers that work.
[13:20] <Pici> bobsomebody: Try ##iphone to start
[13:20] <xteejx> nmvictor_: ermmm I don't know how to do that, sorry :( There will be a kernel channel on this IRC server, they'll definitely know how to help :)
[13:20] <xteejx> Hi Pici
[13:21] <bobsomebody> Pici, ty!
[13:21]  * Pici waves
[13:21] <nmvictor_> xteejx: thanks,
[13:21] <asdff> oh well not really worth worrying about
[13:21] <xteejx> nmvictor_: No probs, sorry I couldn't be more help
[13:21] <calrik> bobsomebody: also try search "iphone" in synaptic package manager think I seen something in there
[13:21] <asdff> what terminal do you guys recommend using?
[13:21] <asdff> sometimes gnome-terminal seems a bit glitchy
[13:21] <sleeping`dragon> i did a fresh install of ubuntu, on bootup i see "grub loading" but i never get to screen when i choose OS, instead ubuntu starts. I am on karmic and grub2.
[13:22] <yucatan1991> hello guys i have a IBM T500 with a radeon 3450 when i boot up ubuntu it says there is a new driver available for your graphics card but when i install it and i reboot my laptop i cant get in gnome anymore and my screen stays flashing at a black screen. does somebody know this problem how can i fix this?
[13:22] <yucatan1991> correction its a ati radeon 3650
[13:22] <xteejx> sleeping`dragon: You will need to reconfigure grub
[13:22] <xteejx> !grub | sleeping`dragon
[13:22] <jiohdi> my UNR is set for NO screensaver NO power management... yet after about 5-10 min idle, the screen goes dark, but not off... whats causing this? how do I stop it?
[13:22] <sleeping`dragon> !grub2
[13:22] <bobsomebody> calrik, ive actually got most of it figured out, i just cant figure out these 2 files they have no extensions
[13:22] <yucatan1991> somebody?
[13:22] <nmvictor_> xteejx: actually i appreciate, just one more thing.Do you see compiling the kernel on a live CD as a feasible act?
[13:23] <asdff> jihodi: your monitor perhaps?
[13:23] <frostbite7> hey guys how do i get the autum leaves plugin
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <asdff> frostbite7: what is that plugin? stop spamming btw
[13:23] <xteejx> nmvictor_: ERmmm, I would say its probably hit and miss
[13:23] <arand> sleeping`dragon: if yoy just want to see the menu temporarily, hold down shift before
[13:23] <jiohdi> asdff, the monitor is not turning off... just going dark, you can see the light is still on
[13:23] <bobsomebody> calrik, so im just trying to figure out if this is a normal thing to find or if its one of those "your guess is as good as mine" situations
[13:23] <luohuan> hey,everyone!
[13:23] <asdff> jihodi: hmm, are you sure there isn't a gnome power saving process in your process list?
[13:23] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Chances are you are trying to use the fglrx driver, which doesnt support such an old radeon, you will need to stick with the supplied open source ati drivers
[13:24] <nmvictor_> xteejx: thanks, guess i have less choice
[13:24] <iflema> asdff terminator
[13:24] <jiohdi> asdff, if there is how do I adjust it?
[13:24] <frostbite7> can anybody help me?
[13:24] <yucatan1991> xteejxx : how can i install that?
[13:24] <asdff> jihodi, you can terminate it via gnome-system-monitor
[13:24] <asdff> that is about all I can think of :P
[13:24] <xteejx> it should already be installed
[13:24] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: you don't
[13:24] <xteejx> !radeon > yucatan1991
[13:24] <asdff> iflema: why would you recommend terminator?
[13:24] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: it's already there and working
[13:25] <Yfrwlf> Does anyone know how to see a hidden program that is eating up memory? =P
[13:25] <xteejx> the fglrx binary only support 9800+ and the X series afaik
[13:25] <asdff> Yfrwlf: bash -> gnome-system-monitor &
[13:25] <asdff> process list
[13:25] <xteejx> top
[13:25] <arand> Yfrwlf: there are options in the system monitor to show all system applications
[13:25] <yucatan1991> so i cant get a bether driver the i have now?
[13:26] <iflema> asdff terminator can be split into several views on the one window
[13:26] <xteejx> yucatan1991: there's no need, the one you have should work perfectly fine, and besides ATI/AMD do not support your card anymore
[13:26] <asdff> iflema: that seems cool, but is it lightweight etc?
[13:26] <yucatan1991> so i cant get the highest graphics in my ubuntu?
[13:27] <Yfrwlf> asdff: I know that, it's hidden.  That's what I meant by hidden.  As in, it seems to truly, actually be hidden.  Showing all processes doesn't do it.  ps faux doesn't show it.  There is something eating 8MBs per every 5 seconds that does not show up.  It has to be in something which is not reporting memory use.
[13:27] <iflema> asdff its a terminal app..... yep
[13:27] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Would you really need to see subpixel level antialiased rendered detail on a document?
[13:27] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi what does this mean? Jan 20 14:26:00 myusername kernel: [  145.077393] ppdev0: registered pardevice
[13:27] <asdff> Yfrwlf: hmm I want to stick around and see the solution to your problem them :P. Sounds very mysterious lol
[13:28] <Yfrwlf> Currently, something is using 1.4GBs of RAM on my system, when system monitor > all processes only shows a total of about 300-400MBs.
[13:29] <Yfrwlf> and that is up from 800MBs since I've been sitting here watching.
[13:43] <Yfrwlf> Impy^: The driver it recommends and then downloads and installs for you is the Nvidia fglrx driver.  It might not be compatible with your monitor.  You might want to uninstall it with the Hardware Drivers tool, and see if the open source driver will show you the correct resolution.  You can also download and install the newer driver from Nvidia's site, or try modifying xorg.conf.  If you're new to Linux and Ubuntu though, I 
[13:43] <noXandOs> Well, I am learning a little a day.
[13:43] <iflema> Impy^ are you aware of nvidia-settings control panel under the System/Admin desktop menu?
[13:43] <noXandOs> I don't feel totally helpless anymore.
[13:43] <B3rz3rk3r> lol
[13:43] <B3rz3rk3r> good to hear
[13:43] <Impy^> Yfrwlf how do i get the opensource driver? Yeah i'm aware of the nvidia settings things :)
[13:43] <usuario_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:43] <xteejx> !es
[13:43] <usuario_> kienes soi
[13:43] <Yfrwlf> Impy^: Uninstalling the Nvidia driver using the Sys > Admin > Hardware Drivers tool will revert you back to the open source driver.
[13:43] <xteejx> !pt
[13:43] <epinky> !es | usuario_
[13:43] <IpSe_DiXiT> my pc just shut down by itself, what could it be?
[13:43] <xteejx> power outage?
[13:43] <greenlantern> What's the difference between umask=0002 and umask=002 ?
[13:44] <Yfrwlf> So if I cannot see a program that is eating up lots of memory on my computer, I've been rootkitted, or is there any way to have memory leaks outside a process? =P
[13:44] <frostbite7> hey goodmorning everyone
[13:44] <xteejx> hi frostbite7, appropriate name! hehe
[13:44] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: A million things... You can look in the system logs from SYstem>>Administration>>Log Viewer and see if there are any clues
[13:44] <frostbite7> lol thanks
[13:45] <yareckon> hi guys, how can I tell dpkg that a program is not installed, if the remove keeps failing
[13:45] <frostbite7> hey does anyone know how to install the autumn leaves effect?
[13:45] <xteejx> ooo new kernel
[13:45] <yareckon> I want it to ruthelessly over write it :)
[13:45] <IpSe_DiXiT> arand: i did :D haven't found much but this [  145.260635] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice which i dunno what it is
[13:45] <Yfrwlf> frostbite7: are you talking about a Compiz theme?
[13:46] <Yfrwlf> er plugin
[13:46] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: that is probably nothing related to crash, I guess...
[13:46] <frostbite7> i think its only a plugin
[13:46] <IpSe_DiXiT> arand: also this is my prob http://paste.ubuntu.com/359541/
[13:47] <Yfrwlf> frostbite7: If it's a Compiz 3D effects plugin of some sort, you should search on the site for that, there is some Compiz/Beryl/etc site for themes and plugins and whatnot.
[13:47] <Yfrwlf> probably several sites
[13:48] <xteejx> IpSe_DiXiT: If you have real problems with this, I would suggest filing a bug report, unless you were doing something unexpected that may have caused the halt
[13:48] <Yfrwlf> 1.5GBs of RAM used and continuing to count down. =P
[13:48] <iflema> Yfrwlf there is used, buffered ,cached and free.... note the cached and buffered.
[13:48] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: well that just looks like the getdeb repository is down at the moment, you should shout at them ;)
[13:48] <Yfrwlf> er up
[13:48] <frostbite7> okay thanks yfrwlf
[13:48] <soreau> frostbite7: It is called elements and you can install it with the script found here (since ubuntu no longer provides the -unsupported plugins package) http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012&p=75601#p75601
[13:49] <xuanhen_> hi guys,when I boot my ubuntu ,i have 200 udevd ,each of them is 1.2M ,so my disk light is working all the time ,who can help me ?
[13:49] <Yfrwlf> iflema: both cached and buffers from the program "free" are steadily increasing.
[13:50] <MorphyNOR> lol
[13:50] <pif> hi, when attempting karmic netinstall on a Dell Inspirion 9300 latop I get a white screen after selecting "install", any idea?
[13:50] <MorphyNOR> Yfrwlf: think about what you just said for abit :P
[13:50] <pif> when trying expert install I get the same white screen when "enabling frame buffer"
[13:50] <frostbite7> okay thanks soreau
[13:50] <iflema> Yfrwlf this is ok.... some of this activity is for Qos.
[13:51] <IpSe_DiXiT> according to you guys, what is the best temperature sensor for ubuntu?
[13:51] <soreau> ! best
[13:52] <iflema> Yfrwlf basically if your free ram is insufficient for what your doing..... get more!
[13:52] <Crazymethjesus> shut the fuck up!!!
[13:52] <Crazymethjesus> fuckers!!!
[13:52] <DJones> !ops | Crazymethjesus
[13:52] <MorphyNOR> ohh nice, entertainment is here
[13:53] <Yfrwlf> iflema: when I boot up, I'm only using about 300-400MBs.  System monitor now shows 1.5GBs.  I eventually rebooted a few days ago, because it eventually started into using swap space, which is horribly slow.  MorphyNOR: k, done, still confused. ^^
[13:54] <Rahim> how to install grub legacy in Debian(testing) from a live cd?
[13:54] <Yfrwlf> iflema: 1.6GBs used and steadily continuing.  Luckily I have 4GBs of RAM, but still.
[13:55] <iflema> Yfrwlf so you boot and touch nothing and it climbs until it crashes....
[13:55] <coz_> Rahim,  not sure but it should be similar      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/REINSTALL%20GRUB
[13:55] <Yfrwlf> iflema: No, I have not yet tried to see which program specifically is causing this "leak" or whatever it is.
[13:55] <yareckon> Rahim, #debian is not as full as it was this morning... ask over there
[13:55] <iflema> Yfrwlf if its swapping its filled the 4gig
[13:56] <Rahim> coz_: it wont find stage1 since grub2 is installed
[13:56] <freakynl> hi, q. I added a user and now he's on the gdm/kdm login list. I don't want him to show there, anyone know where to remove it? He can just type in his username
[13:56] <arand> Rahim: ask in #debian.. but I guess you just check the grub packages, see which one are the legacy version, install it, run "sudo grub" and the reinstall from the grub terminal as you would normally..
[13:56] <Rahim> is there a way to install grub from scratch?
[13:56] <coz_> Rahim,  oh!!  mm  maybe go to  #grub channel   I bet they have more info on this
[13:56] <DJones> !grub | Rahim
[13:56] <Rahim> ok
[13:57] <Rahim> let me give you a run down
[13:57] <Migi32> where does boost store its .a's or .so's after I do apt-get install libboost?
[13:57] <Rahim> i have ubuntu 9.04 with grub legacy setup along with other OS (debian), now i hav installed debian testing and i am unable to make an entry in ubuntu menu.lsy since there is no menu,lst in grub2
[13:58] <Yfrwlf> iflema: Yes I know, it did, and that's my next step though is to start a program and wait to see if it causes the "leak".
[13:58] <Oasa> guys..
[13:58] <iflema> Yfrwlf have you added apps from foreign repos/foreign source code.
[13:58] <soreau> ! grub2 | Rahim
[13:58] <Oasa> okay lisn i want to make a bot
[13:59] <Oasa> so that it will answer to some default questions in gtalk (using pidgin)
[13:59] <Oasa> help me out
[13:59] <Migi32> and why do we even have 1000 different directories for libraries? /lib, /usr/lib, /var/lib, /etc/lib, ... it's driving me cray
[13:59] <Migi32> crazy*
[13:59] <soreau> Oasa: That really has nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:59] <Oasa> so where do  i ask that soreau?
[13:59] <Oasa> can you help me anyways?
[13:59] <MorphyNOR> Oasa: #pidgin
[13:59] <Yfrwlf> iflema: Yes, so I will test and see if I can find out which program causes the leaking, I was just hoping that I was missing some way of seeing the process which is leaking, but apparently I'm blind to it.
[14:00] <sipior> Migi32: try "dpkg -L libboost"
[14:00] <puneeth> there's no audioplaybak on my computer
[14:01] <Markus> Hello. Need help installing Ubuntu 8.04
[14:01] <Karhu> can someone please tell me how i can log into a term instead of x ?
[14:02] <erUSUL> Karhu: just once? or everytime?
[14:02] <Karhu> just once
[14:02] <Yfrwlf> Karhu: control-alt-F1 through F6, F7 is X, F8-F12 are also available AFAIK.
[14:02] <soreau> Karhu: Use recovery mode?
[14:02] <erUSUL> Karhu: just "crtl + alt + f1"
[14:02] <pif> how do I install a pre-release version?
[14:02] <arand> Karhu: you always have the term through ctrl+alt+F2 (F7 to get back)
[14:02] <Karhu> ok thansk :-)
[14:02] <Karhu> thanks*
[14:03] <arand> pif: download the alpha or daily liveCD
[14:03] <yucatan1991> where can i select options to get better image in ubuntu
[14:03] <Migi32> sipior, well it was actually libboost-dev and not libboost, but apparently it only installed a "copyright" and a "changelog.gz" file?!
[14:03] <arand> !lucid | pif
[14:03] <pif> arand: do you have an URL?
[14:03] <yucatan1991> i know there is a menu for it with 4 options if i can remember i'm not sure
[14:04] <Hirager> Hey, is there any way to enforce resolution CHANGE trough terminal?
[14:04] <soreau> yucatan1991: sys>prefs>display ?
[14:04] <puneeth> cany anyone help me? i need help with audioplayback. i cant hear anything... no music, nothing :(
[14:04] <Hirager> FVWM window manager
[14:04] <soreau> Hirager: You can use xrandr..
[14:04] <Hirager> I tried, but I am not able to change it
[14:04] <arand> pif: I could google it, but so could you ;)
[14:04] <soreau> ! audio | puneeth
[14:05] <sipior> Migi32: there are a large number of packages brought in by installing libboost-dev. try looking at them. or use find. or pkg-config.
[14:05] <Hirager> xrandr -- newmode and xrandr --addmode don't help
[14:05] <Karhu> i tried doing ctrl-alt-f1 but im trying to install a driver and it still says i appear to be running an x server so it wont install
[14:05] <soreau> ! who | Hirager
[14:05] <soreau> ! nvidia | Karhu
[14:06] <Oasa> !tab ubottu
[14:06] <Oasa> !tab Oasa
[14:06] <Migi32> sipior, how do I see which packages libboost-dev installed?
[14:06] <Hirager> !tab soreau
[14:06] <Hirager> test
[14:06] <Hirager> no
[14:06] <kaolbrec> Hirager: it meant just start typing the name, then press tab
[14:06] <Hirager> !who soreau
[14:07] <Markus> hello. I try to install Ubuntu8.04 on notebook Lenovo SL510. When it start to load "graphics mode" there is no picture. I can see just some kind of garbage on screen.What to do?
[14:07] <kaolbrec> Hirager: need a pipe there
[14:07] <soreau> Hirager: First, which video card do you have?
[14:07] <Hirager> soreau, test
[14:07] <Hirager> NVIDIA 7300 GT
[14:08] <soreau> Hirager: Then you probably want to use nvidia-settings to change the resolution or set it in your xorg.conf
[14:08] <nerdy_kid> hi everyone! is it a good idea to link files in my $HOME dir to roots home?  want to like my .kde folder.
[14:08] <soreau> nerdy_kid: That is a bad idea, dont even try it
[14:08] <Hirager> soreau: The thing is that my spare cable i use, doesn't send info about monitor.
[14:09] <yucatan1991> soreau: no something else
[14:09] <nerdy_kid> soreau :( causes permission frying huh.  no way to prevent root from changing the permisions?
[14:09] <yucatan1991> not the resolution but about the quality
[14:09] <soreau> Hirager: Have you tried setting the resolution you want in nvidia-settings?
[14:09] <yucatan1991> the lowist options is only available if u have a good driver
[14:10] <yucatan1991> somewith with the graphics
[14:10] <frostbite7> lol i appreciate your helping me soreau but the site didn't help do you have any alternatives?
[14:10] <Hirager> soreau: Yes, there are only 2 resolution. I have FullHD monitor
[14:10] <obiwan_> guys, i just woke up and my ubuntu screen is like zoomed, i can't see my whole screen at once, i need to move the mouse over it. Do you know what did i touch? i felt asleep on the keyboard and don't know ):
[14:10] <soreau> frostbite7: Why did it not help?
[14:10] <Hirager> logo+scroll
[14:10] <Hirager> mouse scroll
[14:10] <obiwan_> nice hah thanx hirager
[14:11] <yucatan1991> i'm looking for this screen. http://www.techotopia.com/images/4/4a/Ubuntu_visual_effects_settings.jpg
[14:11] <obiwan_> i tried ctrl + scroll which is the normal in apps
[14:11] <soreau> Hirager: I guess you can ask in #nvidia, Im not sure
[14:11] <obiwan_> didn't thought about logo :P
[14:11] <Karhu> the binarydriverhowto doesnt seem to cover installing legacy nvidia drivers with ubuntu 9.10
[14:11] <soreau> Karhu: Did you check sys>admin>hardware drivers?
[14:12] <frostbite7> lol i don't know. i ranit in the terminal as instructed but the plugins cant be found
 yeah i did no luck there i tried envyng too but that dosnt seem to help either
[14:12] <Hirager> I am sure the prblem lies in cable, not card, because it started after change of cable
[14:12] <sipior> Migi32: try "apt-cache depends"
[14:13] <soreau> frostbite7: Did it successfully compile and install the plugins? Did you restart compiz and ccsm as it instructed?
[14:14] <arand> yucatan1991: right-click desktop, change background, and there's your dialogue
[14:15] <yucatan1991> arand: i wanne change it to extra but if i enable that
[14:15] <yucatan1991> it say could not enable
[14:15] <yucatan1991> how can i fix that
[14:15] <yucatan1991> i have a ati radeon hd 3650
[14:16] <arand> yucatan1991: that's video accelerated drivers not being enabled.
[14:16] <frostbite7> lol i dnt know. do i first copy the code and then restart compiz ?
[14:16] <soreau> frostbite7: If you actually read the guide, it tells you exactly what you need to do
[14:17] <GutZuWiSSeN> are there any ERM - tools / editors for ubuntu?
[14:17] <yucatan1991> u mean the fglrx driver?
[14:17] <localh0st> Hello, how could i connect my ubuntu livecd via ethernet with my windows 7 on second computer?
[14:17] <erUSUL> yucatan1991: use the free driver (either radeon or radeonhd ) ?
[14:17] <yucatan1991> how i should do that
[14:18] <localh0st> is it avainable to share files on livecd?
[14:18] <erUSUL> localh0st: assing manually valid ips/netmasks in both computers
[14:18] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[14:18] <yucatan1991> arUSUL how should i do that
[14:18] <frostbite7> lol cool. thanks. if it isn't to much trouble could i have the link again?
[14:18] <epinky> localh0st: just configure an ip and use smb://you.wiindows.machine.ip on nautilus
[14:19] <soreau> frostbite7: It is called elements and you can install it with the script found here (since ubuntu no longer provides the -unsupported plugins package) http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012&p=75601#p75601
[14:19] <SpaceBass> setting up a dual boot box from scratch. Want to be able to boot the XP partition as a VM from inside ubunut. What's the install order? Windows first or Ubunut first?
[14:19] <freakynl> localh0st: if you can internet, probably no need, dhcp will have already assigned ip's to your machines
[14:19] <localh0st> epinky: is it working in idle default? my version of ubuntu is 7.10..
[14:19] <elvios> :SpaceBAss: I think you're always supposed to install windows first..
[14:19] <erUSUL> yucatan1991: probably you are alredy using radeon driver... do you see performance problems ?
[14:19] <SpaceBass> elvios: thanks
[14:20] <yucatan1991> no but i wanne set soem visual effect.
[14:20] <elvios> SpaceBass: but not sure if you want the VM-thingy
[14:20] <epinky> localh0st: check if you have an ip opening a terminal and typing "ifconfig -a"
[14:20] <yucatan1991> and if i do that it say Deskttop effect cold not be enabled
[14:20] <elvios> SpaceBass: If you only want windows as a VM I think you should only install ubuntu, and then install windows via VirtualBox or whatever program you're using
[14:21] <localh0st> epinky: i would connect my ubuntu livecd to windows 7 machine- i want copy my files from dead os
[14:21] <soreau> yucatan1991: Do you see a driver in sys>admin>hardware drivers?
[14:21] <SpaceBass> elvios: I need it as a physicial box and VM ... otherwise I'd agree 100%
[14:21] <yucatan1991> yeah\
[14:21] <soreau> yucatan1991: Did you install it?
[14:21] <SpaceBass> elvios: its a new, fresh HD, I'll expirement and find out :D
[14:21] <yucatan1991> soreau: i see thefglrx driver
[14:21] <yucatan1991> yeah
[14:22] <freakynl> SpaceBass: good luck, xp doesn't like changes in hardware very much
[14:22] <yucatan1991> but if i do that my ubuntu wont boot up anymore
[14:22] <SpaceBass> freakynl: hoping I can use hardware profiles to get around that
[14:22] <yucatan1991> then my ubuntu starts and i only see is a black flashing screen
[14:22] <elvios> SpaceBass: Ah. So windows should be installed properly but accessible from inside ubuntu? I have no idea how to do that :D
[14:22] <yucatan1991> a flashing console
[14:22] <freakynl> SpaceBass: maybe, you probably will have to keep the hals the same
[14:22] <epinky> localh0st: then I'd recommend configuring SSHd on LiveCD and use WinSCP on Windows Side to copy to your 7 disk
[14:22] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh well I guess fglrx sucks :P How many monitors/screens do you have plugged in to the graphics card?
[14:23] <SpaceBass> freakynl: good point. Thanks. and thanks elvios as well!
[14:23] <freakynl> SpaceBass: order doesn't really matter, if you install linux first, then windows, you will have to recover grub mbr. the other way around you will have to restore windows bootsector in some cases
[14:23] <yucatan1991> one
[14:23] <yucatan1991> its a laptop
[14:23] <yucatan1991> a IBM t500
[14:23] <soreau> yucatan1991: Which version of ubuntu is this?
[14:23] <BillyBoy> well.. nice.. here are living people :).. need advice with configuration of php and extensions on ubuntu-server channel it seems everyone is sleeping can i ask here?
[14:23] <localh0st> epinky: thanks
[14:23] <yucatan1991> IBM Lenovo T500
[14:23] <yucatan1991> how i can see that?
[14:24] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: lsb_releasa -a
[14:24] <IdleOne> will tell you the version
[14:24] <BillyBoy> need little help, don't know how to start php extensions gd-bundled and imagemagick library.. could someone help me? show me the way?
[14:24] <soreau> yucatan1991: lsb_release -a
[14:25] <yucatan1991> ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[14:25] <freakynl> BillyBoy: isn't installing and then restarting apache enough? It shoud suffice iirc
[14:25] <IdleOne> BillyBoy: try #php also :)
[14:25] <SPeck84> Hi
[14:25] <ugliefrog> is the ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent the live cd
[14:26] <llutz> ugliefrog: no
[14:26] <IdleOne> ugliefrog: no
[14:26] <rayve> hi all, I was asking the other day about a sound issue - I've now upgraded to 9.10, still only sound in Rhythmbox, nothing in Youtube or with WoW in wine. Pulse says it doesn't detect any hardware, and the Sound preferences window is different than it was in 9.04
[14:26] <yucatan1991> soreau:?
[14:26] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well the good news is that the open driver now has 3D support for your card. The bad news is it didnt make it into the 9.10 release so you would have to install packages from the xorg-edgers repo
[14:26] <IdleOne> ugliefrog: the desktop is livecd
[14:26] <BillyBoy> freakynl nope..
[14:26] <BillyBoy> IdleOne ok thx
[14:26] <freakynl> BillyBoy: worked for me, quite sure about it
[14:26] <ugliefrog> ok...thanks...live is what i need
[14:26] <SPeck84> Somebody can help with me in a Samba
[14:26] <SPeck84> I can't configure
[14:26] <usuario_> Olaa
[14:27] <perlsyntax> does ubuntu have boadcom drivers?
[14:27] <yucatan1991> soreau what u mean can u help me with this?
[14:27] <ouyes> what a mess
[14:27] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,
[14:27] <yucatan1991> soreau : what should i install and from witch repo
[14:27] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know where i can get my wireless card driver on ubuntu?
[14:27] <IdleOne> !broadcom | perlsyntax
[14:27] <perlsyntax> yes
[14:27] <kiwiman> hello what's up !
[14:28] <SPeck84> kiwiman are u a hungarian?
[14:28] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, ahh you're here, umm I checked the lspci -nnk output, your hardware is a fairly recent build, so I can't see how fglrx wouldn't work but Xorg.0.log may show something useful imo
[14:28] <dryfire> kik
[14:28] <soreau> yucatan1991: Actually I use gentoo so I dont know exactly how to install the xorg-edgers repo, but from what I understand, you just add it and update your system. If you would like, you might find support for this in #radeon
[14:28] <dryfire> kikikik
[14:28] <dryfire> lololololo
[14:28] <dryfire> lkikikikikik
[14:28] <dryfire> lolololol
[14:28] <kiwiman> SPeck84: no only French :D
[14:28] <SPeck84> ok
[14:28] <SPeck84> Kiwiman can you help my
[14:29] <yucatan1991> maby can u explane a bit more what i need to do
[14:29] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  you mean fglrx should work well?
[14:29] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers <---make sure that is correct
[14:29] <kiwiman> SPeck84: it's not the right way to say hello :) ??
[14:30] <kiwiman> SPeck84: about ??
[14:30] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well you need to know what a repo is and how to add one in general first.. let me see if I can find a lonk to xorg-edgers
[14:30] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:30] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I can't vouch for it because I don't have that hardware, but I can't see why not, upon searching vid:pid of your device, many were asking about compiz, so I'd say yes fglrx should be working without issues, you're running 9.10 right?
[14:31] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  il try it again by active it in the hardware driver
[14:31] <mirkuz83> !list
[14:31] <SPeck84> kiwiman about Samba configure
[14:31] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:31] <LuciusMare> hello, how i used kubuntu,and i set it to encrypt my home directory, now i migrated to another system,  how do i unecrypt it?
[14:31] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, no
[14:31] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i am running 9.04
[14:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[14:32] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I'd check whilst in GUI (unless you're familiar with CLI and can bear with it) the Xorg.0.log for some info
[14:32] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, hmm
[14:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what can i do
[14:33] <diego_> ola
[14:33] <diego_> olaqtal
[14:33] <epinky> !es | diego_
[14:33] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well I'd check the error logs, Xorg.0.log first. You said you have previously activated the driver right? and so if it fails, etc it should be logged into Xorg.0.log, in /var/log
[14:33] <diego_> ¿?
[14:33] <soreau> ourizo_: What card do you have?
[14:33] <diego_> olaa
[14:34] <soreau> damn it
[14:34] <diego_> qe de qe??
[14:34] <diego_> whats?
[14:34] <soreau> ouyes: Which card model do you have?
[14:34] <diego_> the algo card
[14:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i tried in the hardy both the  official driver and the flgrx
[14:35] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, hardy would be ancient :) nah I was looking at koala
[14:35] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[14:35] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:35] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:35] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:35] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  8.04LST, i have not tried in 9.04 because i am afraid
[14:35] <calrik> is it deliberate the fact I can not access network shares in nuatilus when I run nautilus with "sudo" ?
[14:36] <epinky> !gksudo | calrik
[14:36] <psycho_oreos> soreau, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d32553bfe
[14:36] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:36] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well the fglrx is claimed to work in 9.10 (karmic koala)
[14:37] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  how about the hardy?
[14:37] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what about the hardy?
[14:37] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I never tried fglrx driver but if its a wrapper like nvidia's proprietary driver, you might be able to compile it manually (via new linux driver) and old kernel sources to get it working
[14:37] <soreau> ouyes: Why are you trying to use hardy? Why not 9.10?
[14:37] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, haven't searched on hardy
[14:37] <nyaa> hi, I was wondering if anyone can give me the name of a channel that deals with building computers
[14:37] <freakynl> nyaa: try #hardware
[14:37] <nyaa> cool, thanks
[14:38] <calrik> epinky: sweet thanks
[14:39] <ahabman> I'm trying to script swapping out /etc/X11/xorg.conf (to add another monitor). Is there a way to reload or restart X server without logging out?
[14:39] <xteejx> Is anyone testing Lucid with System Testing yet? If not I'd suggest doing it before Alpha 4 in about 6 weeks, so any future problems can be ironed out ASAP
[14:39] <yucatan1991> idleOne: if i do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers i get command not found
[14:39] <ouyes> soreau, i like the ADD/Remove function with stars to make a choice, and i hope it has a good stability(so the 8.04 is my first choice, by the avalibility is low)
[14:39] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Use Software Sources in System>Admin
[14:39] <nouga> ahabman, ctrl+back-arrow
[14:39] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, and I would personally also start asking (agreeing with what soreau suggested) why use 8.04? such new hardware would probably be well benefited under later version
[14:39] <elvios> ahabman: I think ctrl + alt + backspace will do the trick.
[14:40] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:40] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo add-apt-repository perhaps I switched apt and add ;/
[14:40] <ouyes> soreau,  never mind , hopefully the 10.04 will save me among all of the releases
[14:40] <soreau> ouyes: Yes, you have a relatively newer card. So it is only logical to use a newer version of ubuntu
[14:40] <nouga> ahabman: I think ctrl + alt + backspace then /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:40] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: also it's ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[14:41] <xteejx> ouyes: You can test 10.04 now it's pretty much stable, this will give a good indication of whether you will have any problems. You can use a LiveCD
[14:41] <BillyBoy> huh... #php is overloaded? or it requires registration?
[14:41] <konam> does somebody here knows how to change the title/header of a pdf file?
[14:41] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:41] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:41] <ouyes> soreau, psycho_oreos  not the newer ,the better, i do not like the 9.10( the gnome is ugly
[14:41] <xteejx> BillyBoy: It's ##php
[14:41] <BillyBoy> ahh thx
[14:41] <hackeur21> bonjour
[14:41] <xteejx> :)
[14:41] <epinky> !fr | hackeur21
[14:42] <xteejx> !fr
[14:42] <xteejx> hehe
[14:42] <hackeur21> ok
[14:42] <ouyes> xteejx,  but the final release is still on the way
[14:42] <BillyBoy> xteejx overflow :)
[14:42] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, though 9.10 seems to support your video chipset, which would be a bit less of a headache imo than dealing with compiling your own packages, etc
[14:42] <IdleOne> !register | BillyBoy
[14:42] <gQuash> hello there. Newbie question here =( . Can I download ubuntu-desktop to and USB and then install it to an ubuntu server ?
[14:42] <xteejx> ouyes, yes, but testing is done in the alpha stage, you can use a LiveCD without changing any stuff on your hard drive, and will give a good idea if your hardware will be fully supported
[14:43] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what is imo stand for?
[14:43] <yucatan1991> idleone it dont work
[14:43] <IdleOne> gQuash: ubuntu-server is already installed?
[14:43] <xteejx> ouyes, in my opinion = imo
[14:43] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, in my opinion
[14:43] <nouga> ouyes, imo = in my opinion
[14:43] <yucatan1991> i get gpg: requestion key 8844c542 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <ouyes> xteejx,   i see , en where to download the latest version of 10.4
[14:44] <yucatan1991> and it stays on that...
[14:44] <gQuash> IdleOne: Yeap ... I did it yesterday. But my connection it's too slow too download the desktop from here...
[14:44] <ouyes> xteejx,  i can not help to try it
[14:44] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:44] <elyos> gQuash if your server supports usb boot, and if you extract the data from the download iso, yes
[14:44] <xteejx> ouyes, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2
[14:44] <xteejx> ouyes, it won't change anything on your system unless you choose to install it (not recommended)
[14:44] <ouyes> xteejx, psycho_oreos,nouga thanks  my poor english
[14:44] <IdleOne> gQuash: I think you can download the alternate cd and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. you will need to add the cd as a repository to your sources.list
[14:45] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:45] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:45] <freakynl> gQuash: have a look at unetbootin. it's beyond me why you'd install desktop to server though, unless you want to make server hardware a desktop. there's a server version
[14:45] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well its not exactly your poor English is to blame.. imo is just a general internet short words :)
[14:45] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: ok. it is working. wait for it to finish
[14:45] <ouyes> xteejx,  i know that  i am not a brand new newbie i use ubuntu since 8.04 m,  il make a usb start to try it  thanks
[14:46] <xteejx> ouyes, don't worry, some English can't speak English ;)
[14:46] <xteejx> ouyes: You can use a LiveCD if you have any CDR / RW
[14:46] <xteejx> its easier
[14:46] <gQuash> freakynl: Well... I didn't know that was a server version, I downloaded but to my 2 PC desktop and server. But I'm not good enough on terminal =S so I really need the GUI, It's for learning purposes
[14:47] <yucatan1991> idleone its finished now
[14:47] <yucatan1991> what should i do next
[14:47] <yucatan1991> ?
[14:47] <xteejx> gQuash: You can have a normal Ubuntu installation with the server stuff as well to make things easier, just install ubuntu-server once Ubuntu is installed
[14:47] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:47] <freakynl> gQuash: the difference is mainly in packages afaik. but i seldom use ubuntu :D. server doesn't install gui by default etc. unetbootin should do what you want tho'
[14:48] <IdleOne> xteejx: -server is installed he wants to add ubuntu-desktop
[14:48] <xteejx> Well that's easy enough
[14:48] <ouyes> xteejx,  make a usb start will be even simpler, do not you think so? i have a cdr , but why a waste to burn one? il wait the final release and customize one for myself
[14:48] <xteejx> ouyes: Of course, that's not a problem if that's easier for you :)
[14:48] <gQuash> well my problem it's the download... So I'll download the package at work
[14:48] <gQuash> and the come home and install it
[14:49] <xteejx> gQuash: I'd then suggest using aptoncd :)
[14:49] <yucatan1991> Idleone: its upgradeing so i'm waiting
[14:49] <ouyes> xteejx, it is easier and money-save way, and it is fun,
[14:49] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !! each time connect and disconect with giant clic
[14:49] <xteejx> ouyes: hehe :)
[14:49] <xteejx> nouga: Check your sound settings, ensure system beep is turned up
[14:49] <GG19> I love the terminal and cat command I was trying for like 2hrs to change an .ico to a .svg so I can put icons on my wine programs and as new folder images but I couldn't do it not even with a icon creator program I almost gave up till I was thinking about how you can hide a zip file inside an image and wondered if I could use that function but just rename it with the cat command and it worked infact it works for images to .svg as well I
[14:49] <GG19> 'm so happy :)
[14:50] <IdleOne> gQuash: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it pulls in a bunch of other packages. so downloading just ubuntu-desktop to usb won't be enough
[14:50] <xteejx> Gone
[14:50] <IdleOne> darn
[14:50] <ouyes> xteejx,  you know what  , you can use the usb start driver to boot almost any computer
[14:50] <nouga> xteejx, no system sound on settings
[14:50] <xteejx> ouyes: I know :D
[14:50] <xteejx> nouga: Then chances are you may have a problem with the kernel detecting sound cards, etc. Please file a bug report
[14:51] <nouga> xteejx, Gee !
[14:51] <ahabman> nouga: thanks, but both ctrl + alt + backspace  and  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  log me out.  No way to stay logged in?
[14:51] <xteejx> nouga: Use ubuntu-bug to go through step by step
[14:51] <ouyes> xteejx,  i personnally have two laptop and a pc, so it is very useful to take a try via a usb start driver
[14:51] <xteejx> nouga: Or ubuntu-bug linux
[14:51] <nouga> ahabman, no ;(
[14:51] <airtonix> GG19, gthumb opens .ico files. you can then save as png
[14:51] <llutz> ahabman: you cannot restart X without being logged out
[14:52] <ahabman> nouga: okey dokey, thanks for the answer
[14:52] <ouyes> hei hei, does anybody know how to get the ati VGA card of my thinkpad t400 work?
[14:52] <xteejx> ouyes: Same here hehe but yes, whichever is easiest for you. Although if you're going to use a USB, it may be better to do a persistent install on the USB drive, so you can run a real Lucid system with updates :)
[14:52] <ahabman> llutz: thanks, thats the answer I was looking for.
[14:52] <nouga> ahabman, the session is opened throuh gdm = xserver
[14:53] <ouyes> xteejx,  i use the unetbootin to create a usb ,
[14:53] <xteejx> ouyes: The ATI card doesn't work at all?
[14:53] <CAPcap> how do i add a shortcut button to my Apps menu?
[14:53] <ouyes> xteejx,  yes and i am running 9.04
[14:53] <nouga> By every man
[14:54] <xteejx> ouyes: Hmm.... what model?
[14:54] <perlsyntax> All i need is b43-fwcutter for my broadcom to worlk i take it
[14:54] <perlsyntax> :)
[14:55] <perlsyntax> i hope i right.
[14:55] <LuciusMare> ohai
[14:55] <perlsyntax> IdleOne i take  i am right.
[14:55] <LuciusMare> what software does the kubuntu use to encrypt my home?
[14:55] <ouyes> VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4]
[14:56] <xteejx> ouyes: quite new then........hmm
[14:56] <IdleOne> perlsyntax: I don't know but I hope so :) that wiki page should be able to help you figure it out
[14:56] <ouyes> xteejx, VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4] this is the lspci -nnk output
[14:56] <kevin1093> i have sucsessfully instaled ubuntu server onto my maxtor 30 gig hd and now when i try to boot up i get to grub, then i select my operating system, but then it restarts. can anyone help me
[14:56] <xteejx> hmm
[14:57] <CAPcap> excuse me, How would I go about making a Shortcut button on my Apps menu, specifically the Internet submenu. Ubuntu 9.10
[14:57] <perlsyntax> it my dad laptop try to get linux on it so he don't have to worry about the virus.
[14:57] <xteejx> ouyes: You're going to need the fglrx binary driver, the open source will not work with that card
[14:57] <xteejx> !ati > ouyes
[14:57] <soreau> xteejx: Actually, the open source driver does support it now
[14:57] <soreau> But certainly not on hardy
[14:57] <xteejx> Does it? Oh..
[14:58] <xteejx> He's using Intrepid I believe
[14:58] <soreau> xteejx: Yes, the open driver has 3D support for r6-7xx ards now, upstream and he said he is using hardy
[14:58] <kevin1093> i have sucsessfully instaled ubuntu server onto my maxtor 30 gig hd and now when i try to boot up i get to grub, then i select my operating system, but then it restarts. can anyone help me
[14:58] <xteejx> Oh dear
[14:59] <ouyes> xteejx,  i am now worried to ues that driver because it failed in the 8.04 and i turned to 9.04
[14:59] <soreau> xteejx: I believe this is why he is having trouble with fglrx, because the version that it installs is too old
[14:59] <xteejx> soreau: Could be
[14:59] <xteejx> I don't think these things are backported either, so enabling that won't make a difference
[14:59] <yucatan1991> Idleone its done
[14:59] <yucatan1991> what should i do now
[15:00] <soreau> xteejx: So maybe installing it manually might help, but he would have to find just the right version and it would be much easier to upgrade ubuntu but apparently that is not one of the options he is willing to consider
[15:00] <soreau> yucatan1991: Did it install a kernel btw?
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i dont know
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i dont think so
[15:00] <soreau> yucatan1991: Didnt you pay attention? :P
[15:00] <yucatan1991> how can i check that
[15:00] <yucatan1991> no:P
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i let him walk
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i was away
[15:00] <FloodBot1> yucatan1991: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <xteejx> ouyes, I would suggest, again trying the LiveCD / USB option for a later version, and test.
[15:00] <soreau> heh
[15:01] <occy> hmmm for some reason I can't seem to get my CD burner to work on my laptop.  M6400 Dell Precision
[15:01] <occy> Ubuntu 9.10
[15:01] <soreau> yucatan1991: Can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep linux-image ?
[15:02] <yucatan1991> hmm thats a little hard
[15:02] <yucatan1991> because my irc and my ubuntu machine are 2 different machines
[15:02] <soreau> yucatan1991: No it isnt, just run it like any other command in your terminal. The | character is the one above your enter key
[15:03] <yucatan1991> okee sec
[15:03] <laeg> !ssh
[15:03] <soreau> yucatan1991: Then paste it to pastebin.com and show the link here
[15:03] <ouyes> xteejx,  it will take some time to install softwares il stay with 9.04 and wait for the 10.04 of April but try the alpa
[15:03] <laeg> !sshd
[15:03] <ouyes> xteejx, alpha
[15:05] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help
[15:05] <LuciusMare> what software does the kubuntu use to encrypt my home?
[15:05] <yucatan1991> http://pastebin.com/m1402cfc
[15:05] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: ecryptfs
[15:06] <LuciusMare> erUSUL: thanks
[15:06] <yucatan1991> soreau: thats the link
[15:07] <Dontkillme> Hello. I acciedenly wiped my hard disc and lost my linux. Is there a way to get it back?
[15:08] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, how did you wipe your HDD?
[15:08] <soreau> yucatan1991: Ok, cool. Now make sure you have completely uninstalled the fglrx driver in sys>admin>hardware drivers
[15:08] <soreau> yucatan1991: you cannot have any fglrx package installed or else the open driver wont work for 3D
[15:08] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: With Paragon Disk Wiper - I wanted to test it...
[15:08] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help.............
[15:09] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, you did a full wipe?
[15:09] <yucatan1991> soreau there is standing driver it not activated
[15:09] <yucatan1991> so i think it not installed.
[15:09] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Yes. I wanted to test the program.
[15:09] <soreau> yucatan1991: If there is no output to this command, you should be good: dpkg -l|grep fglrx
[15:10] <airtonix> Dontkillme, no.
[15:10] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, then you're going to need a pristinely clean electronics lab, a very powerful electron microscope, and a team of top-notch forensic's experts.
[15:10] <kinja-sheep> Dontkillme: I'll say you lost everything. :\
[15:10] <Dontkillme> Oh
[15:10] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Do you know about applications such as Virtualbox?
[15:10] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: No
[15:10] <airtonix> Dontkillme, lesson for today : look before you leap. think before you press red buttons.
[15:11] <LuciusMare> wow
[15:11] <soreau> yucatan1991: After verifying no fglrx packages are installed, reboot your computer. Finger crossing is optional :)
[15:11] <LuciusMare> i just ecryptfs-mount-privated my home
[15:11] <airtonix> LuciusMare, you can find wow related help on #wowuidev
[15:11] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, well now consider you've learned a lesson. Don't experiment on your own HDD. When you reinstall Linux make sure you download Virtualbox or some similar application and test stuff there.
[15:11] <yucatan1991> soreau: http://pastebin.com/m25993c73
[15:11] <kinja-sheep> airtonix: And make interval backups. :)
[15:11] <LuciusMare> it loaded successefully,i can read everything,but the folder names are still gibberish
[15:11] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh, you need to remove all of those packages
[15:12] <LuciusMare> well
[15:12] <yucatan1991> how can i do that
[15:12] <LuciusMare> names of EVERYTHING are gibberish
[15:12] <yucatan1991> just apt-get remove?
[15:12] <airtonix> !enter | LuciusMare
[15:12] <soreau> yucatan1991: Yes
[15:12] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Oh, I only wanted to test the program... My HDD was full with programs... Does my hard drive get heavier when I put more data on it?
[15:13] <airtonix> Dontkillme, inb4 troll
[15:13] <Karhu> hi guys..whats the difference between ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 ?
[15:13] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, I don't understand - you mean physically?
[15:13] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Yes, I do.
[15:13] <LuciusMare> Karhu: version
[15:13] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help me
[15:13] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: you can always use xfce or lxde which are lighter
[15:13] <soreau> lol
[15:13] <erUSUL> Karhu: also 8.04 is LTS
[15:13] <ouyes> xteejx, which do you prefer? xubuntu or the ubuntu ( xfce or the gnome)
[15:13] <IdleOne> soreau: you liked that huh :)
[15:14] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, well data stored on an HDD is essentially electromagnetic pulses so - no.
[15:14] <soreau> IdleOne: Nice ;)
[15:14]  * airtonix makes the sound of a wosshing airplane going over IdleOnes head
[15:14] <MrUnix> IdleOne, that made me lol
[15:14] <soreau> airstr1ke: Quite the contrary as you must have missed it ;)
[15:14] <soreau> damn this channel
[15:15] <Dontkillme> Where're all my files? I need them back...
[15:15] <ikonia> soreau: calm down please
[15:15] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Paragon will have written over them completely. They no longer exist.
[15:15] <kinja-sheep> Dontkillme: You WWIII your files.
[15:15] <airtonix> Dontkillme, seriously ? after a hardrive wipe you still fully expect to recover your files ?
[15:16] <MrUnix> airtonix, it's possible if it was only one or two passes with a static pattern.
[15:16]  * airtonix still thinks Dontkillme is a troll. 
[15:16] <LuciusMare> Hawkey: nazdar
[15:16] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: you erased them all when you did your test. you have deleted them all.
[15:16] <MrUnix> airtonix, he just needs a lot of money and some powerful equipment.
[15:16] <Dontkillme> Oh no...
[15:16] <LuciusMare> like,two millions and a lab
[15:16] <LuciusMare> more or less
[15:16] <IdleOne> MrUnix: that is an option not available to most, not even worth mentioning
[15:16] <MrUnix> Don't forget the very powerful electron microscope
[15:16] <yucatan1991> soreau: okee i did remove them
[15:17] <Hawkey> LuciusMare hi
[15:17] <yucatan1991> soreau: should i reboot now or do i need to do something else?
[15:17] <soreau> yucatan1991: Alright, so dpkg -l|grep fglrx is showing nothing now?
[15:17] <MrUnix> IdleOne, it might apply to him. He could be a closet millionaire.
[15:17] <yucatan1991> soreau there are still tree entry's
[15:17] <yucatan1991> if i hit it
[15:17] <soreau> yucatan1991: Or at least, nothing with ii next to the name
[15:18] <Dontkillme> Is there a way to get at least my operating system back?
[15:18] <ikonia> Dontkillme: no
[15:18] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: yes, get the cd and install
[15:18] <soreau> heh
[15:18] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Apart from the electron microscope? Reinstallation
[15:18] <llutz> Dontkillme: fresh install + restore backup, [x] done
[15:18] <yucatan1991> soreau: if i do again sdo apt-get uinstall i get is not installed so not removed.
[15:18] <Dontkillme> Oh, okay. Thanks, I'll try it.
[15:18] <airtonix> Dontkillme, this time round when you install, put have your  home folder on a separate partition to your system core
[15:19] <MrUnix> airtonix, that won't stop an HDD wipe from reaching it.
[15:19] <llutz> so nfs-home
[15:19] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, lesson of the day - testing stuff on your HDD != win.
[15:19] <yucatan1991> soreau: so whats next now?
[15:19] <CAPcap> How do i add a shortcut button to Applications > Internet?
[15:19] <soreau> yucatan1991: Good. Go ahead and reboot then try to enable desktop effects
[15:20] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: It's the 4th time since I've got this computer
[15:20] <airtonix> CAPcap, from where ?
[15:20] <llutz> pebkac
[15:20] <Karhu> whats less resource hungry out gnome and kde ?
[15:20] <quarkup> ho any1 using kde4 ?
[15:20] <IdleOne> heh
[15:20] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, I've rebuilt an OS on this computer I'm on at least twenty times by now. You'll get used to it.
[15:20] <airtonix> Karhu, same.
[15:20] <MrUnix> !kubuntu | quarkup
[15:20] <yucatan1991> soreau: okee rebooting now.
[15:20] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh well, if you have too old kernel it wont work but we will see
[15:20] <kinja-sheep> Karhu: XFCE, LXDE, No GUI.
[15:21] <Dontkillme> Okay, I inserted the installation DVD now. When will the installer start?
[15:21] <cweilem> hey all - I've got a webcam hooked up to my 9.04 box, it works, but when running ekiga, the image is a mirror image.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:21]  * airtonix still thinks Dontkillme is a troll. 
[15:21] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, don't troll.
[15:21] <CAPcap> airtronix i want to make a shortut to seamonkey 2.02 which doesnt automatically install and therefore doesnt make a shortcut. the instructions online dont work they appear to be for an older version of ubuntu or a different breed of linux
[15:21] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: reboot
[15:21] <Dontkillme> IdleOne: Okay, thanks. I'll try it
[15:21] <airtonix> CAPcap, you want a shortcut on your desktop or panel right to seamonkey?
[15:22] <llutz>  /me wonders what mailclient thunderbird-devs are using... :(
[15:22] <IdleOne> thought you did this 4 times already but anyway
[15:22] <llutz> ups, wrong channel sry
[15:22] <airtonix> -_-
[15:22] <CAPcap> yes i want it in Panel -> Applications -> Internet
[15:22] <mads-> Hi. Can anyone remember what the online editor where multiple persons can write at the same is called?
[15:22] <CAPcap> Just like any other program
[15:23] <airtonix> CAPcap, open : system -> preferences -> menu
[15:23] <CAPcap> done
[15:23] <airtonix> CAPcap, you can insert new items with that program
[15:23] <DJones> mads-: There's either gobby, or have a look at www.etherpad.com Probably the 2nd one would be best
[15:23] <juniper> I am looking to create some sort of front door security system which takes a snapshot of whoever is at the door when they press the buzzer.  I already have the camera I need to use.  And I guess I could wire the doorbell in as a key press or a mouse click.  But I doubt there is any suitable software.  I would probably have to graft something.Any ideas?
[15:24] <soreau> yucatan1991: I think you will need at least 2.6.32 kernel for 3D accel on this card with the open driver but if xorg-edgers repo doesnt provide it, not sure if you have to build one or what :P
[15:24] <CAPcap> airtonix thanks
[15:24] <mads-> DJones: thanks
[15:24] <kinja-sheep> juniper: o.O
[15:24] <airtonix> CAPcap, if for some reason that menu path i provided doesn't launch Alacarte ... then you can simply run it directly : alt+f2 & type : Alacarte
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> помогите
[15:25] <main> hello
[15:25] <kinja-sheep> juniper: Use motion sensors, at least. See package "motion"
[15:25] <Guest90983> hello
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> зарегиться
[15:25] <main> i need help here
[15:25] <alabd> Hello , would you give download link of a blue sky theme for ubuntu ? it's pictures should be used in a ubuntu book and book is white and black , so theme should be proper for being white and black
[15:25] <IdleOne> !ru | Mad_Dog
[15:25] <main> any one compile last firefox
[15:25] <main> source
[15:25] <riktking> hi having trouble finding out the ram type in my laptop, when i use the dmidecode command it says i have ram of 1mhz?!?! any helpers?
[15:25] <erUSUL> juniper: why not a stock surviellance system that records when there is motion ? http://www.zoneminder.com/
[15:25]  * airtonix tempted to spam at least three !bangs at main
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> ubottu спасибо
[15:26] <cweilem> any thoughts on how to "unmirror" a webcam picture in 9.04?
[15:26] <main> any one compile firefox from source can help me here
[15:26] <yucatan1991> soreau: thx alot it works now
[15:27] <soreau> yucatan1991: Thats great!
[15:27] <yucatan1991> soreau: can u maby make a list of stept i need to do if i clean install ubuntu to get this
[15:27] <erUSUL> cweilem: use a photoeditor gimp gthumb f-spot all support this function
[15:27] <soreau> yucatan1991: By works, you mean compiz does?
[15:27] <pif> how can I rescue a disk from a ubuntu livecd  ?
[15:27] <yucatan1991> the visual effects work now
[15:27] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: the steps are all in your terminal, use the arrow keys to scroll through the commands you used and write them down :)
[15:27] <soreau> awesome
[15:27] <erUSUL> !recovery
[15:28] <yucatan1991> okee thx
[15:28] <erUSUL> !undelete | pif
[15:28] <airtonix> cweilem, i assume you mean in realtime?
[15:28] <cweilem> erUSUL:  any ideas on how to flip the real time picture?  the camera works properly in Skype, but is mirrored in ekiga
[15:28] <cweilem> airtonix:  yup
[15:28] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well it is very easy then. For a clean install, just do like IdleOne said: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:28] <yucatan1991> okee thx alot
[15:28] <airtonix> cweilem, and hence the suggestion of using gimp is hardly satisfactory
[15:28] <pif> ubottu: thx
[15:29] <cweilem> airtonix:  well, that would work, because what I have setup is motion detector
[15:29] <soreau> yucatan1991: btw, what does uname -r report your kernel version as?
[15:29] <Hirager> I need help with recovering previous xorg.conf file.
[15:29] <inmanix> Hey guys, need some help if i can
[15:30] <Nokia_E75> How to detect my nokia e75 on ubuntu 9.10?
[15:30] <Hirager> I assume that when some hardware gets changed, xorg.conf gets replaced, am I right?
[15:30] <juniper> erUSUL: genius nice 1 thx
[15:30] <airtonix> cweilem, expect it wont, since to use gimp to do this you would 1) need to edit each frame manually (time consuming, not practical) 2) setup a pipe from the /dev/somethingsomethingsomething/  folder to have gimp process it in the backgroun (complicated, also might fubar other things )
[15:30] <Riverthief> Sup guys, is it normal for the "Nautilus" process to be taking 95% CPU and 216mb of RAM? I'm pretty sure it's not lol. Who do I fix this?
[15:30] <inmanix> I've currently got XP on a 240gb NTFS, and a copy of ubuntu to test it out on a 10gb partition. im looking to modify the sizes of these partitions and wondering if it could be done through partition magic, or if i need to fresh install everything?
[15:30] <erUSUL> juniper: no problem
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, try gparted
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, from a live CD tho
[15:31] <airtonix> cweilem, have you tried using the program called  "cheese" ?
[15:31] <cweilem> airtonix:  right.  i mean, it's not a huge issue - the bottom line is the camera works and I can catch people stealing stuff off my desk, but it'd be nice if it wasn't mirrored
[15:31] <kwork> inmanix, backup your data before tryng it
[15:31] <inmanix> is it safe resizing NTFS?
[15:31] <MindSpark> hi, not sure if I should ask this here, but is there any known/working IDE's for flash under linux ?
[15:31] <yucatan1991> soreau: 2.6.31-14-generic
[15:31] <cweilem> airtonix:  will cheese work for motion sensing?
[15:31] <perlsyntax_> why don't the broadcom come with the driver on the cd?
[15:31] <inmanix> will i not lose data? i mean iv got 170GB free
[15:31] <kwork> inmanix, long time ago i have managed to wipe my hdd clean while rezising partitions,
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, yeah you can do it, then windows will "check the file system on boot"but as kwork said, backup first
[15:32] <Nokia_E75> Anyone use ubuntu ME @ Sabily?
[15:32] <inmanix> sure
[15:32] <airtonix> cweilem, not sure but there is other projects that do what you want in terms of start recording when enough pixels change in the frame
[15:32] <maemo_5> buon pomeriggio. mi occorre una mano devo configurare su ubuntu 9.4 kmid e timidity gia installati ma non rieso a riprodurre i midi e i kar
[15:32] <Riverthief> So..........does anyone know?
[15:32] <airtonix> !find motion
[15:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: Ok, ubuntu must have put latest radeon drm patches because vanilla kernel, you need at least .32 for accel on that card with the open driver
[15:32] <IdleOne> !it | maemo_5
[15:32] <airtonix> !info motion
[15:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: But glad it works
[15:32] <inmanix> and second question, what setup would you recommend for partitions? just two partitions for XP and linux and room for files?
[15:32] <pif> from a livecd how do I reinstall my grub boot sector?
[15:32] <airtonix> !info motion > cweilem
[15:33] <Riverthief> Is it normal for the "Nautilus" process to be taking 95% CPU and 216mb of RAM? I'm pretty sure it's not lol. Who do I fix this?
[15:33] <inmanix> someone suggested 4 partitions, 10gb for ubuntu, 20 for xp, then one shared NTSF and another dedicated for linux
[15:33] <cweilem> airtonix:  even cheese shows the reverse image, and motion is what I'm using now :)
[15:33] <airtonix> cweilem, http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/setup-an-advanced-webcam-security-system-with-ubuntu-8-04-and-motion/
[15:33] <inmanix> and what is the recommended swap file size for 2gb ram? 4000?
[15:34] <airtonix> cweilem, ok (mention these things it helps )
[15:34] <jrib> inmanix: = ram should be enough
[15:34] <riktking> inmanix partition for data (ext4), swaps (fat32 so both windows and linux can see it), windows (ntfs) and a /home one (ext4)
[15:34] <cweilem> airtonix:  ha, sorry
[15:34] <riktking> inmanix, and a swap!
[15:34] <sebsebseb> Hi
[15:34] <airtonix> cweilem, maybe motion has cofig to modify frames as it dumps them ?
[15:34] <Riverthief> inmanix, I have 3gb of RAM, and never even fill half of my 890mb swap
[15:34] <yucatan1991> soreau: thx alot!!!!!
[15:34] <cweilem> airtonix:  summary so far - using motion, cheese, ekiga, the camera works, but image is mirrored.  skype works perfectly
[15:35] <riktking> inmanix, sorry for "swaps" i mean a drive that both windows and linux can see not a swap drive
[15:35] <inmanix> i will be light gaming on wine though
[15:35] <Riverthief> Well, I'd suggest around 1.5gb
[15:35] <inmanix> ok
[15:35] <jrib> inmanix: if you plan on using suspend-to-disk your swap should be greater than or equal to your ram
[15:36] <inmanix> im somehwat of a 1 day old ubuntu noob, but im assuming 'suspend to disk- is not a requirement?
[15:36] <kinja-sheep> inmanix: No it is not. It is a feature some people use.
[15:36] <cweilem> airtonix:  maybe...  i'm wondering now if skype isn't flipping the image for me
[15:36] <jrib> inmanix: it's not, do you understand what I mean by it?  It's usually called "hibernate" in wondws-land
[15:36] <inmanix> aye
[15:36] <jrib> windows even
[15:37] <soreau> yucatan1991: Thank IdleOne too, I made a note of how to add the xorg-edgers repo now :)
[15:37] <inmanix> okay, so i need ext4 for files, i need a ext4 for ubunutu which i already have, i need a fat32 for shared and i need a ntfs for windows?
[15:37] <sebsebseb> inmanix: I just joined, what are you trying to do?
[15:37] <riktking> inmanix, yes
[15:37] <airtonix> cweilem, it might be (if it is then my assumption is that since its newer than cheese or motion it is sniffing machine ids of your webcam and it knows that it needs to flip the frames)
[15:38] <IdleOne> soreau: :)
[15:38] <sebsebseb> inmanix: you don't need Fat32,   Ubuntu since 7.10 (October 2007) can read and write to NTFS properly,  as long as Windows shut it down properly
[15:38] <jrib> inmanix: why do you need ext4 for files?  Just have a partition for ubuntu and one for swap.  A separate one for /home is also a good idea.  That's it on the ubuntu side
[15:38]  * airtonix thinks separate home partitions should be default
[15:38] <MrUnix> I just use a boot partition, a swap area, and then keep all my ubuntu stuff on the same part.
[15:38] <MrUnix> *shrugs*
[15:39] <sebsebseb> airtonix: they are good to have,  but  not always needed,  espeasilly if people have say an external hard disk to back up to
[15:39] <inmanix> i dont understand the /home stuff
[15:39] <airtonix> MrUnix, must make reinstalling a pain in the rear (what with having to back up X amount of gigs prior to reinstalling)
[15:39] <kinja-sheep> !home | inmanix
[15:39] <MrUnix> inmanix, /home is really the only area in linux you'll be able to write new files to. All of your stuff is kept there.
[15:40] <jrib> inmanix: all your user's data is kept there.  So if you have a separate partition for it you could for example reinstall ubuntu without really noticing or use another distro without really noticing
[15:40] <inmanix> sure, so its basically my C drive
[15:40] <airtonix> sebsebseb, separate gome parition precludes the requirement to back up prior to a reinstall.
[15:40] <jrib> inmanix: no
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: ok thanks for the pm telling me what you want to do
[15:40] <zer0her0> dumb question how can i see the format of a drive/partition
[15:40] <inmanix> so i have 10gb for ubuntu installation, then a seperate ext4 for home
[15:40] <MrUnix> airtonix, I keep an external HDD close at hand that I backup to at least once a week or so
[15:40] <freakynl> inmanix: no, basically it's c:\documents and settings
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: by default Ubuntu  puts everything into  /  which is like C in Windows
[15:40] <freakynl> or c:\users if you vista/7 users
[15:40] <tdn> With tar, how do I set the compression level? Say, I want to do gzip level 4 or bzip2 level 9?
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: however it also gives people some swap space,  which is virtual memory in Windows
[15:41] <zer0her0> via cli.
[15:41] <inmanix> and home natively lives in / im guessing
[15:41] <inmanix> and im looking to move that to a new partition
[15:41] <MrUnix> Everything is kind of in /
[15:41] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound
[15:41] <sebsebseb> inmanix: a home is like my documents,  and program files kind of,  well just program user data in hidden .folders   for programs in a home.   by default   home goes in  /  ,but  some of us like having a seperate /home partition, because that makes re installing Ubuntu or even changing to another distro a bit easier
[15:41] <riktking> inmanix, /home is a "directory" of / ,  but can be on a different partitions
[15:42] <domito_> 'morning
[15:42] <kinja-sheep> inmanix: In Windows, there are many drives C: D: E: -- In Unix, everything is in one tree.  /etc/ /home
[15:42] <inmanix> sure, so its effectively my documents and program files
[15:42] <sebsebseb> inmanix: for example .mozilla is the Firefox profile, if you remove/move it and then re open Firefox, it's like your using it on Ubuntu for your first time
[15:42] <MrUnix> !hi | domito_
[15:42] <inmanix> sure sure
[15:42] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound. i use ubuntu 9.4
[15:42] <inmanix> so my home partition needs to be my large linux 'file' partition
[15:43] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound. i use ubuntu 9.4
[15:43] <sebsebseb> inmanix: yeah do like 10GB for / that's right you don't need much space for Ubuntu itself, when you got a big seperate /home
[15:43] <freakynl> inmanix: no, program files is /bin, /usr/bin, things like that. program data in windows is kept in c:\documents and settings\user and the local settings\application data or application data. in linux program DATA is kept in your home folder. quite similar actually
[15:43] <sebsebseb> inmanix: swap space, well  that depends on how much RAM, how big you make it
[15:44] <inmanix> well if i say install steam with wine
[15:44] <sebsebseb> inmanix: and if you want to hibernate and such or not
[15:44]  * airtonix likes to put the swap partition as the first partition
[15:44] <jrib> inmanix: wine stuff ends up in your home
[15:44] <inmanix> k :)
[15:44] <MrUnix> inmanix, wine = /home
[15:44]  * kinja-sheep does not use swap :D
[15:44] <sebsebseb> inmanix: yes that's right .wine  the hidden .wine folder is your wine programs
[15:44] <inmanix> seb someone said around 1.5 gig was good for me
[15:44] <MrUnix> Virtually everything you add to linux will end up in /home.
[15:44] <inmanix> im 2gig ram
[15:44] <betz> Greetings!
[15:44]  * freakynl likes /boot as first partition and swap second :P
[15:45]  * airtonix thinks kinja-sheep shall feel the cold edge of my swap drive
[15:45] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: I don't really need it either and  this is with 1GB RAM,  I don't hibernate this computer
[15:45] <MrUnix> inmanix, swap needs to be 2 or more gigs  then. (I suggest at least three or four if you want to hibernate or work with large files)
[15:45] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: oh some programs might run better with SWAP space, but I don't really need, even so though I tend to have it
[15:45] <MrUnix> !hi | betz
[15:45] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: I think it is nicer to have swap file instead of swap partition.
[15:46] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: oh you got a SWAP file
[15:46] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: No I don't -- but I'm looking at htop right now, I'm using 717MB / 3G
[15:46] <airtonix> MrUnix, to be safe swap needs to be 2.5 times the capacoty of your physical ram (to cover the hibernation scenario that your physical ram is full and some swap drive is being used for running apps)
[15:46] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: Basically, 24% of the memory.
[15:46] <freakynl> kinja-sheep: swap can not dynamically grow so what's the point?
[15:47] <airtonix> freakynl, techincally it can by adding a swap file to fstab
[15:47] <sebsebseb> inmanix: by the way you have told me you want to game right,  well there's this idea that Deskop Linux sucks for gaming,  but that really is not the case, there are some pretty good native games for it, and quite a lot of games will work well enough in Wine,  ok so some/many need to be configured a bit first for Wine
[15:47] <kinja-sheep> airtonix: +1
[15:47] <betz> I need to install php5-imap on a feisty server. Tried with apt-get, but i get 404 error, failed to fetch
[15:47] <sebsebseb> inmanix: just wanted to be clear, that  there are good games for Desktop Linux as well
[15:47] <MrUnix> airtonix, I was just passing along the minimum recommended.
[15:47] <freakynl> airtonix: i know how to use loopback swap file, i said grow  :)
[15:47] <llutz> you always can additional swap-space on the fly
[15:47] <sebsebseb> !games |  inmanix
[15:47] <inmanix> i know :) i got CS:S going last night
[15:47] <inmanix> my ping was awful
[15:47] <inmanix> not ping..fps
[15:47] <inmanix> but one change
[15:47] <jrib> !feisty | betz
[15:47] <inmanix> and it doubled
[15:48] <FloodBot1> inmanix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <airtonix> freakynl, i like to think that a swap space that grows is not good.
[15:48] <jrib> betz: you should upgrade as feisty is no longer supported
[15:48] <betz> ubottu: so i can't get those packages anymore? upgrading is not an option for the moment, not my server
[15:48] <freakynl> airtonix: i like to think swap is evil anyways :) virtual memory is horribly slow
[15:49] <kinja-sheep> freakynl, airtonix: Also, you can't grow the RAM, what is the point? You have to change them. :)
[15:49] <airtonix> freaky[t], this is true
[15:49] <jrib> betz: tell the admin to upgrade it.  Point out that it is no longer supported
[15:49] <sebsebseb> betz: 7.04 is/was a rather nice release really, but yep no longer supported, so you should upgrade to at least 8.04 really
[15:49] <ouyes> i have never seen there were more than 200MB of the swap space being in use
[15:49] <llutz> if one uses swap on regular base, he should buy ram
[15:49] <freakynl> kinja-sheep: the point is, if you have to pre-allocate the space it makes no difference whether it's a partition or a file
[15:49] <freakynl> in case of the file, if it's heavily fragmented it will perform even worse
[15:49] <airtonix> llutz, hibernation ?
[15:50] <ouyes> swap space should be abolished
[15:50] <llutz> airtonix: that's not "using swap", thats hibernating to swap-partition
[15:50] <airtonix> llutz, no swap == no hibernate
[15:50] <ouyes> abandoned
[15:50] <regjava> How can I browse network computers in xubuntu?
[15:50] <llutz> airtonix: i meant "usind swap as memory paging"
[15:50] <kinja-sheep> regjava: Maybe "network://" in your file manager location bar
[15:51] <ouyes> regjava,  you are running xubuntu ? how about it ?
[15:51] <MrUnix> !ot | llutz ouyes airtonix freakyn1
[15:51] <freakynl> airtonix: yes, this is why hibernation, atleast using that method, on linux is borked. if i have 2G mem, 3G swap, using 3.5G mem (thus 2G and 1.5G swap) hibernation is going to have serious issues
[15:51] <kevin1093> does anyone know if it is possible to run ubuntu server 9.10 on an old windows 95
[15:51] <pif> can I become root in a livecd? I tried 'su'
[15:51] <MrUnix> pif, yes you can
[15:51] <q0_0p> any know how i can get grub2 menu to display.  ubuntu loads perfectly
[15:51] <kinja-sheep> pif: "sudo passwd"
[15:52] <sebsebseb> q0_0p:  try pressing esc
[15:52] <jrib> q0_0p: or shift
[15:52] <pif> oh, ok
[15:52] <llutz> pif: sudo su
[15:52] <sebsebseb> q0_0p: as it's loading
[15:52] <airtonix> kevin1093, clarify
[15:52] <sebsebseb> jrib: oh shift works as well, didn't know that
[15:52] <q0_0p> sebsebseb, monitor is using digital display
[15:52] <pif> llutz: better
[15:52] <jrib> sebsebseb: yeah, that's just what I've seen others say, I always show the menu
[15:53] <regjava> dosent ubuntu have network support?
[15:53] <sebsebseb> jrib: I think I tried once or whatever with it not showing, but yes good to have it showing at least for a few seconds, so  can change  to another option if wanting to
[15:53] <airtonix> regjava, no. i mean yes...
[15:53] <sebsebseb> regjava: of course it has network support,  what kind of network support are you after though?
[15:53] <freakynl> regjava: oc not. we always walk to a windows box, download the updates, put them on usb and then bring them to ubuntu :P
[15:53] <airtonix> regjava, but that isn't your real question is it
[15:54] <regjava> How do i access other computers on the lan
[15:54] <IdleOne> regjava: what our 3 friends here are trying to say is, can you be a little more specific :)
[15:54] <freakynl> regjava: define computers and sharing abilities
[15:54] <kinja-sheep> !away > MrUnix|Away
[15:55] <kinja-sheep> Does anybody here wrote a rsync script that will sync *any* files between machines when things get created / modified / attrib changes / etc?
[15:55] <regjava> ok, I want to share  a folder on he home network and also access shares on my friends comp
[15:55] <regjava> how do i do it
[15:55] <domito_> kinja-sheep did you try unison?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> regjava: some of those computers run Windows?
[15:55] <airtonix> regjava, since you haven't mentioned we assume you mean between a windows machine
[15:55] <domito_> if only 2 machines, unison is a good way to go
[15:55] <MrUnix|Away> kinja-sheep, My bad bud.
[15:55] <regjava> the other computers run on windoews
[15:55] <sebsebseb> !samba | regjava
[15:55] <q0_0p> regjava, python -m SimpleHTTPServer 80
[15:55] <airtonix> ^ protip
[15:56] <kinja-sheep> domito_: Unison is silly. And break occasionally. :\
[15:56]  * airtonix thinks python is win
[15:56] <kinja-sheep> domito_: I mean with dnotify or inotifywait
[15:56] <freakynl> regjava: if you only want to access shares on windows machine (ie not share yourself) have a look at mount.cifs
[15:56] <DemoOn> can someone helm with that gnome tray icons arent transperent, it has grey bckground...
[15:56] <kevin1093> i am trying to install ubuntu server onto my old windows 95, but the cd drive does not mork so i had to put the hard drivre into my compaq(the comp i am using now). the server installed ok and boots fine on this comp, but when i put it into my 95 it resarts after i select which operating system i want to boot in grub
[15:56] <airtonix> DemoOn, no. that aspect of the icon is controlled by the program/applet
[15:56] <sebsebseb> DemoOn: uh yeah, you can make panels transparent, but stuff that is on them doesn't just become transparant as well
[15:57] <ubuntu> ???
[15:57] <pif> how can I run grub from a livecd to boot from /dev/sda1?
[15:57] <pif> apparently the installer forgot to setup grub
[15:57] <airtonix> !ot | ubuntu
[15:58] <goodtime> Sysinfo for 'will-laptop': Linux 2.6.27-16-generic running , CPU: AMDAthlon64X2Dual-CoreTK-57 at 800 MHz (1595 bogomips), HD: 3/105GB, RAM: 646/1769MB, 126 proc's, 53.19min up
[15:58] <sebsebseb> pif: how did you install Ubuntu?
[15:58] <IdleOne> goodtime: nice, nobody cares though.
[15:58] <airtonix> kevin1093, have you tried doing a netboot install ?
[15:58] <goodtime> heh
[15:58] <Guest79841> anybody know how to get an actual nick?
[15:58] <Guest79841> "/nick" doesnt work
[15:59] <DemoOn> airtonix: no, everything was ok, before system update
[15:59] <Sacho> /nick MyNick
[15:59] <IdleOne> Guest79720: /nick newnick
[15:59] <goodtime> ..    /nick   nick
[15:59] <kinja-sheep> Guest79841: /nick jeremy_is_silly
[15:59] <sebsebseb> Guest79841: and then if it's not already taken you can register it
[15:59] <DemoOn> airtonix: i think i have smthing messed up with some cfg file or smthng
[15:59] <underdog5004>  /msg nickserv register nickname
[15:59] <underdog5004> or something like that
[15:59] <pif> sebsebseb: with a livecd
[15:59] <MrUnix> It's /msg nickserv register <e-mail> <password>
[16:00] <DemoOn> sebsebseb: they became transperent, at least it was so a while ago
[16:00] <sebsebseb> pif: I am so not going to try and help someone fix Grub 2 right now,  I assume your on Karmic so Grub 2 yep if it's a clean install.   anyway this link might have something useful
[16:00] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | pif
[16:00] <kevin1093> airtonix whats a netboot install
[16:00] <JeoMAN> YAY
[16:00] <JeoMAN> i guess someone had my old nick
[16:01] <MrUnix> kevin1093, It means you'll install your new OS from a minimal environment via a network connection.
[16:02] <JeoMAN> anybody know how to get into the linux mint channels?
[16:02] <kevin1093> but my 95 was unbootable (that is why i chose linux) and it is still unbootable
[16:02] <IdleOne> !mint
[16:02] <sebsebseb> !mintsupport |  JeoMAN
[16:02] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, There's one on Freenode and they have one on their own server.
[16:02] <JeoMAN> !mintsupport
[16:02] <mediaprodigy_> Question: My firefox browser and for that matter my desktop locks up very often.. windows will not minimize or move, clicking and dragging do not work, menu drop downs do not work and actually look as if they are clicked but blink and no drop down drops down. I have reinstalled ubuntu and this is still the case. Does anyone have any experience with this on your own setups?
[16:02] <kinja-sheep> JeoMAN: jeremy_ is owned for more than 8 years. Lies.
[16:03] <manish> hi! i'm a new user. i am having difficulty in accessing the other partitions from most of my applications...and even the file manager. can someone tell me how can i fix this...m using xubuntu 9.10.
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: How much RAM?
[16:03] <mediaprodigy_> 1 Gig
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Which graphics card?
[16:03] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: 1 Gig, is this not enough
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: 1GB is more than enough for Ubuntu
[16:03] <MrUnix> mediaprodigy_, 1 gig is fine.
[16:04] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: It is a optiplex sx 260.. one of those mobile super small desktops with labtop parts
[16:04] <DemoOn> i have similar to this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33374931/Screenshot.png
[16:04] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: uhmm I don't know about that, but it's a good idea for people to run Ubuntu on supported hardware, otherwise they are likely to get issues
[16:04] <manish> mediaprodigy_ what about ram??
[16:04] <JeoMAN> okay this is gonna reveal my complete n00b-ness, but, anyone know how to change the time on my clock?
[16:04] <JeoMAN> i just installed ubuntu a few hours ago
[16:04] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: so what ever graphics card comes with that.. not sure
[16:04] <DemoOn> pidgin have gray icon
[16:05] <IdleOne> JeoMAN: right click and go to prefs
[16:05] <kevinj615> I've always wondered, how do you get that little application bar down at the bottom
[16:05] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, GNOME?
[16:05] <JeoMAN> no
[16:05] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: as long as your using something reasonably standard hardwarewise Ubuntu should work quite well.  well  wireless and sound can be problem areas, but that's not your issue
[16:05] <JeoMAN> XUbuntu
[16:05] <mediaprodigy_> manish: i have 1 gig of ram in the setup
[16:05] <MrUnix> kevin1093, in GNOME?
[16:05] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, You can do it from terminal with the "date" command.
[16:05] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:05] <FiReSTaRT> JeoMAN: ok click on the clock, once it pops open, under locations there's an edit button.. click on it, click on the time settings button and you can change it even though i'd just leave it on autoupdate
[16:05] <MrUnix> I think the syntax is date HHmmMMDDYYYY
[16:06] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Firefox does get issues on Ubuntu, for some of us, but  it's useually as a result of Flash
[16:06] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:06] <sebsebseb> !patience | cla_
[16:06] <JeoMAN> oh i figured it out
[16:06] <JeoMAN> thanks
[16:06] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i installed non supprted extras to get flash support vs adobe flash
[16:06] <FiReSTaRT> JeoMAN: i like the applet.. i don't even need to look out the window to know what the weather's like :P
[16:06] <kinja-sheep> cla_: Copy the script to the other computer. Run the script.
[16:06] <kevin1093> MrUnix What about GNOME
[16:06] <kevin1093> ?
[16:07] <MrUnix> kevin1093, Are you using GNOME?
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:07] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: but the issues where there when i installed just the adobe flash
[16:07] <brainbox> hey guys if i want to find out if anything on my system is already using a port how do i check
[16:07] <infid> anyone know of a way to do 'iswitchw' behavior in ubuntu? (http://lifehacker.com/5278802/iswitchw-finds-windows-as-you-type)
[16:07] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: yes sir
[16:07] <manish> mediaprodigy_ do u have dual boot? like 2 os installed, and u choose at the beginning?
[16:07] <JeoMAN> so how do i get to a new server, idk where to enter in "!mint"
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: so it was ok, untill Flash was installed?
[16:07] <kevin1093> yes
[16:07] <BTR> Hey I want to get unbunto version how
[16:07] <manish> hi! i am having difficulty in accessing the other partitions from most of my applications...and even the file manager. can someone tell me how can i fix this...m using xubuntu 9.10.
[16:07] <MrUnix> kevin1093, then the application bar at the bottom should already be on your desktop. You can add more by adding panels.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> BTR: first you need to download the ISO   and burn to CD,  or you can get them to send you a free CD
[16:07] <IdleOne> JeoMAN: /server irc.spotchat.org
[16:07] <MrUnix> !xubuntu | manish
[16:08] <kinja-sheep> JeoMAN: /server irc.spotchat.org (then you type in "/j #linuxmint-help"
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i do not think it happed when i first installed ubuntu.. so i suspect flash may have something to do with it .. and yet i installed ubuntu unsupported extras
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> yes*
[16:08] <Skeptic> ubuntu doesn't boot from the usb stick on a d510mo motherboard
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ok  the way you got Flash is fine
[16:08] <FiReSTaRT> manish: you may have more luck in #xubuntu or #thunar (thunar is the default xfce file manager)
[16:08] <kevin1093> MrUnix i think you are talking to the wrong guy: you want to talk to kevinj615
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ,but Adobe Flash is closed source, and so not much can be done about it's issues
[16:08] <DemoOn> can anybody help me with this issue? Some of the ray icons arent transperent
[16:08] <DemoOn> tray
[16:08] <MrUnix> kevin1093, LOL, my bad
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: also i do have a XP and ubuntu selection screen
[16:08] <MrUnix> Damn you kevins... all lookin the same and junk
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: luckily their are alternatives to Flash  that might be good enough for your useage,  Gnash and Flash.  their are also alternative browsers were Flash works better on Ubuntu
[16:09] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: uh Gnash and Swfdec above
[16:09] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: do you recommend reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:09] <cla_> kinja-sheep, if i have 2 computers, the 1st one shared the script to the 2nd computer, how can i run the script from the 1st computer? not with the 2nd computer.. is that possible?
[16:09] <MrUnix> sebsebseb, Flash is an alternative to flash? McAwesome
[16:09] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: you already tried that didn't you?
[16:09] <kevinj615> lol
[16:10] <Skeptic> why wouldn't ubuntu boot on a d510mo?
[16:10] <manish> FiReSTaRT : but the other apps? like, i if i try to use a wallpaper from the other partition, it won't be on after restart.....i guess it requires previliges everytime...can't anythingnbe done??
[16:10] <cla_> kinja-sheep, if i have 2 computers, the 1st one shared the script to the 2nd computer, how can i make the 2nd computer run the script from the 1st computer? not with the 2nd computer.. is that possible?
[16:10] <kinja-sheep> cla_: What script? Some commands (ie rsync) allows you to switch paths (from target to host, or vice versa).
[16:10] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i installed adobe flash, then uninstalled it.. and then reinstalled ubuntu unsupported extras.. not sure if i uninstalled everything.. librarys.. and such
[16:10] <CAPcap> ok so I'm having media player problems, it seem that if i can find a player that will play my m4a itunes songs it will not/cannot manage my library at all or easily they all seem to be miniplayers. Full cataloguing players with lots of tools cant seem to play them. recommend a program?
[16:11] <sebsebseb> BTR: good idea to check ISO before burning contents to CD yeah
[16:11] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | BTR
[16:11] <sebsebseb> BTR: if you get from a torrent it's probably fine though
[16:11] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: thanks
[16:11] <BTR> ok
[16:11] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: it's working better now?
[16:12] <winyath> hi
[16:12] <MrUnix> !hi | winyath
[16:12] <sebsebseb> BTR: you ask me in pm where to download it etc,  what do you want to use it for by the way
[16:12] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | BTR
[16:13] <CAPcap> Can anyone help me with that? I need a better media player?
[16:13] <MrUnix> CAPcap, Rhthymbox?
[16:13] <BTR> I want change the fedora version
[16:13] <riktking> i have a file that is nearly 2gig that is called .xsession.error
[16:13] <jrib> CAPcap: what's wrong with the default one?
[16:13] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: not next to my machine.. but if flash is the culprit.. i am wondering if i should uninstall ubuntu-unsupported-extras and install ubuntu supported extras as they come up.. it sucks since it is all in a bundle.. I do not know how to uninstall stuff i have downloaded online.. that was not installed through the software center..
[16:13] <riktking> how do i stop it!
[16:13] <jrib> riktking: read it :P
[16:13] <riktking> jrib,
[16:13] <CAPcap> MrUnix and jrib it wont play m4a files
[16:13] <sebsebseb> BTR: you have Fedora installed, but  then ask someone where to download Ubuntu hrm
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ?
[16:13] <riktking> jrib, how do i stop it happening! it is ever expanding
[16:13] <winyath> you are really thear
[16:13] <BTR> y
[16:13] <jrib> riktking: read it, I'm serious
[16:14] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: what do you mean Ubuntu supported extras?
[16:14] <DemoOn> which package is responible for trai icon trnsperency?
[16:14] <jtrimmer> I might be in the wrong place to ask this question and if so please excuse me.  I have 5 servers at our central office 2 running ubuntu 3 running other flavors.  We have a site2site vpn which connects our remote office into our domain controller and all of our internal resources.  Well my problem is this.  I can ping and connect to every device from the remote office except the ubuntu boxes.  I've
[16:14] <jtrimmer> checked iptables and it is flushed and I can ping the box from the central box.  Any suggestions what I might check?
[16:14] <jrib> CAPcap: intsall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:14] <winyath> zX
[16:14] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: there are a few ways you can install Adobe Flash into  Ubuntu, and whichever way you choose,  you are likely to get the same issue/s
[16:14] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: in ubuntu unsupported extras you get Flash.. so I would uninstall unse: then install Gnash when i need flash and so forth and so on..
[16:14] <riktking> jrib, ive deleted it? is that a problem
[16:14] <kinja-sheep> jtrimmer: You might want to try in #ubuntu-server
[16:15] <jrib> riktking: wait for it to come back and read it...
[16:15] <winyath> i have lot of questions
[16:15] <Guest52843> hey
[16:15] <Guest52843> how is it going?
[16:15] <jrib> winyath: start at the beginning :)
[16:15] <skrite> winyath, go
[16:15] <jrib> !hi | Guest52843
[16:15] <jtrimmer> alright kinja thanks
[16:15] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: so flash is responible for tray icon transpirency?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> !ask |  winyath
[16:15] <MrUnix> !hi > Guest52843
[16:15] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: I assume that Gnash does not have these issues?
[16:15] <riktking> jrib, well ive stopped a program that was producing another log file that was getting to be near to similar size and no xsession log had been recreated
[16:15] <CAPcap> jrib i have rhythmbox still wont play them, i spent like 2 hours testing various media players last night, my problem is the ones that play m4a dont have library management tools which i need because i have thousands of songs
[16:16] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: i do not have that transparency issue.
[16:16] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Gnash is from the Free Software Foundation,  Swfdec is from the open source community,  both aren't as good as Adobe Flash, but they might be good enough for your Flash useage
[16:16] <jrib> CAPcap: what ubuntu version?
[16:16] <CAPcap> 9.10
[16:16] <leon> hey
[16:16] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: bcause u have stable version of smthing that is responsible about that
[16:16] <winyath> 1 how to install my web cam
[16:17] <skrite> winyath, check out a package called cheeze
[16:17] <CAPcap> jrib, ok now its playing them T_T i dont freaking get it
[16:17] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: thanks for the insight into flash
[16:17] <jrib> CAPcap: you probably had to restart rhythmbox
[16:17] <CAPcap> maybe i just needed to reboot my computer
[16:17] <winyath> thanks skrite
[16:17] <tx3> anyone familiar with dd-wrt?
[16:17] <CAPcap> jrib well it doesnt matter now anyways, its working. thanks for your time
[16:17] <jrib> tx3: if it's related to ubuntu, just ask your question
[16:17] <Aragon> i booted a live usb stick on a pc, but i have to authenticate which user and password should i use?
[16:17] <jrib> CAPcap: no problem, glad you figured it out
[16:18] <riktking> hi having trouble finding out the ram type in my laptop, when i use the dmidecode command it says i have ram of 1mhz?!?! any helpers?
[16:18] <llutz> tx3: /j #dd-wrt
[16:18] <Majjj> Helloooo
[16:18] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: what issue are you having?
[16:18] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: some of the tray icons arent transperent
[16:18] <Majjj> Do u know what mof is
[16:18] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: I have had Flash issues in the past ( on another distro  at the moment, where Flash is working fine in FIrefox )  anyway on Ubuntu in my expereince if Flash issues it's better to use another browser for it
[16:19] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png see
[16:19] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: this might sound funny but i do not have a tray.. i can only assume you are using KDE
[16:19] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: its gnome
[16:20] <tps_> If I write a daemon application how can I make it start on system start-up in Ubuntu?
[16:20] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: or not.. i c
[16:20] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Epiphany is good Galeon is good,  Konqueror is fast and that.   Opera is closed source, but still good,  etc
[16:20] <sebsebseb> !browsers | mediaprodigy_
[16:20] <hari_> iball c8 web cam not working help
[16:20] <hiexpo> goodmorning all
[16:20] <sebsebseb> hari_: not my area, but
[16:20] <anil56554> chrome is best
[16:20] <brainbox>  /join #linux
[16:21] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  hari_
[16:21] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: can u help me?
[16:21] <mediaprodigy_> ubuttu: sebsebseb: thanks for the list.. i am going to have to use another browser for that issue..
[16:21] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: Was it like that after your ubuntu install.
[16:22] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: What video card?
[16:22] <sebsebseb> anil56554: this Chrome stuff is getting at me a bit, because  even though Firefox might get issues with Adobe Flash on Ubuntu,  it's the one we should be supporting the most, since it's a good number two,  and has most of the market share after all versons of IE put together.  a version of IE on it's own though and well Firefox actsauly has more market share these days
[16:22] <usuario> qe pasa
[16:22] <sebsebseb> anil56554: whoops that was wrong above,  I meant to put, IE has most market share still, but only when it's more than one version
[16:22] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: i dont have ubuntu, that problem is connected with gnome, i dont know where else could i ask this question. Everything was fine before system update. Everything is ok with video cards
[16:22] <anil56554> sebsebseb: yeah you are right
[16:23] <usuario> hello
[16:23] <riktking> wanted to try and get the ir on my laptop working has anyone got anywhere to start from?
[16:23] <Migs> I'm trying to add a repo to Ubuntu 9.10, by adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list and I added "deb http://repo.mindtouch.com xUbuntu_9.10" but when I go to apt-get update, I get this: E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[16:23] <anil56554> sebsebseb: but chrome has not a good download manager and that's what i need
[16:23] <Migs> what's the right way to add a repo link?
[16:23] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, chrome with it's sandboxing is arguably the safest browser out there right now, not to mention the fastest
[16:23] <DemoOn> Migs: synaptics
[16:23] <Migs> okay
[16:24] <anil56554> chrome extension are also growing fast
[16:24] <theadmin> Migs: Most likely it should be deb http://repo.mindtouch.com karmic main
[16:24] <diddly> hi is there a way to list packages i have installed, but not their deps?
[16:24] <Migs> there's no /karmic directory
[16:24] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: maybe so, but quite a lot of web developers don't test in loads of popular browsers like they are meant to, in fact there are still doing websites only for IE.   they will make  a website for the browser that they think has most market share etc.  anyway this is off topic.
[16:25] <theadmin> Migs: It's not a directory, it's a repo line %) Try this. If it doesn't work, try also karmic universe and karmic multiverse. If still, something's wrong with this repo
[16:25] <Migs> okay
[16:25] <DemoOn> which package may cause this problem>> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png Some tray icons arent transperent?
[16:25] <riPPerMD> I am using Xubuntu and when surfing the internet with Firefox the system will randomly freeze. Usually happens when page is loading. The mouse continues to move but that is it. A hard shutdown is required to regain use again. Can anyone point me to a solution?
[16:25] <joshua__> gotta question
[16:25] <MFen> has anyone else experienced sigsegv running gvim, after upgrading to karmic?
[16:25] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: not sure If I can can help.. hopefully someone in here can help
[16:26] <theadmin> riPPerMD: Don't hard shutdown, use Alt+SysRq+REISUB
[16:26] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: i hope
[16:26] <riPPerMD> theadmin: thanks
[16:26] <anil56554> demoon: what is problem
[16:26] <theadmin> Or was it Ctrl? Damn %) Somehow, I have to use Alt AND Ctrl due to my keyboard config
[16:26] <joshua__> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and now i have no splash screen, my computer just says the input type is not supported, how can i fix this?
[16:26] <DemoOn> anil56554: some of the tray icons have gray bcground, but should be transperent
[16:26] <Diverdude> I have a rather serious problem. I think it has to do with the Xorg server but I am not sure. I am running matlab on ubuntu, and from matlab i can create new windows for example when I want to make some sort of plot. After not very long, when I have opened and closed 3-4 windows, and I open a new window the entire ubuntu system goes crazy. The menu bars(int the top) are not showing in any windows at all. the system gets slower and unresponsive. But if
[16:26] <Diverdude>  i look at top-program in the terminal the CPU seems to be pretty idle and has no occupying processes...How can I figure out what on earth ubuntu does wrong?
[16:27] <papul> hi guys
[16:27] <elvis> Migs:  I think there's  supposed to be a "/" after xUbuntu_9.10
[16:27] <anil56554> demoon: which linux you use
[16:27] <sebsebseb> anil56554: yeah Firefox has download manager
[16:27] <DemoOn> anil56554: gentoo
[16:27] <sebsebseb> anil56554: plus you can downlod stuff with wget even if you really want  in the terminal
[16:27] <vikasap> I am not able to install ubuntu 9.04 through a CD as the display gets screwed up. What do I do ?
[16:27] <DemoOn> anil56554: but everything was ok before update, so its with one of the package
[16:28] <sebsebseb> vikasap: which graphics card?
[16:28] <DemoOn> anil56554: i think
[16:28] <joshua__> no ideas
[16:28] <hiexpo> gwget works great
[16:28] <anil56554> sebsebseb: so tell me a good download manager for ubuntu
[16:28] <vikasap> sebsebseb: I think it is the NVIDIA Geforce
[16:28] <IdleOne> DemoOn: you realise this is #ubuntu?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> vikasap: why 9.04?
[16:28] <DemoOn> IdleOne: because problem is with gnome\
[16:28] <sebsebseb> anil56554: I don't know, but Opera probably has one
[16:28] <anil56554> demoon: can you tell me which icons
[16:28] <Diverdude> any1?
[16:28] <DemoOn> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png
[16:28] <theadmin> anil56554: Try JDownloader or GWget
[16:29] <IdleOne> DemoOn: gnome is also used on gentoo. better luck asking in #gentoo
[16:29] <sdf23> hi all, i m using crossover 8 with ms office 2007 on ubuntu 9.04. i m planning to upgrade to 9.10 do i have to watch for any issues
[16:29] <DemoOn> IdleOne: no luck at all
[16:29] <sebsebseb> !anyone | Diverdude
[16:29] <theadmin> sdf23: I'd really go with OpenOffice... Altough, you shouldn't experience any problems on 9.10
[16:29] <Diverdude> sebsebseb, what are you talking about? I just posted a long question here
[16:29] <sebsebseb> sdf23: well  yeah
[16:29] <anil56554> I want a automatic downloader that can download with link click in browsers
[16:30] <uniq_user> I'd recommend a clean install over an upgrade
[16:30] <DemoOn> anil56554: any advice?
[16:30] <sdf23> theadmin: i do use that . actually i have to use outlook for exchange (comapny servers)
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: the upgrade to 9.10 might go wrong, plus  you don't get Grub 2 on upgrade, and I assume you done Ext3 for 9.04 since that's default, that won't get converted to Ext4 on upgrade, but you don't really need that anyway
[16:30] <vikasap> sebsebseb: I dont have any other CD for the moment. I could upgrade it later once done with initial bot
[16:30] <vikasap> *boot
[16:30] <theadmin> anil56554: I see. I know of one, but it's Linux version is still in development
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: really you don't need Grub 2 either, but in the long run it's better to have
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: I guess
[16:30] <vikasap> sebsebseb: And it is NVIDIA Quadro F 550
[16:30] <anil56554> theadmin: which one
[16:30] <Diverdude> sebsebseb, ??
[16:31] <uniq_user> 10.04 is dumping grub2 for Plymouth
[16:31] <theadmin> anil56554: freedownloadmanager.org
[16:31] <sebsebseb> Diverdude: ok I missed it
[16:31] <sebsebseb> Diverdude: then
[16:31] <sebsebseb> uniq_user: no
[16:31] <pif> any workaround for lucid boot error "mountall: Could not connect to plymouth" ?
[16:31] <IdleOne> Diverdude: I suspect it has something to do with matlab more so then with anything ubuntu is doing. try running matlab from terminal and see if you get any specific error messages
[16:31] <CAPcap> I cannot watch videos on www.nbc.com I have tried seamonkey firefox and opera. suggestions? or can i not get it to work at all?
[16:31] <hiexpo> there isrhe one in firefox that operates that way
[16:31] <gharz> guys, my system updated to the latest kernel and my ubuntu has been installed inside windows (wubi)... but now my MBR is messed up. grub is showing upon boot. how do i fix my grub or MBR back?
[16:31] <uniq_user> no?
[16:31] <sdf23> i m not really concerned about ext4 i just need to keep my ugly outlook n crossoffice moving ....
[16:31] <sebsebseb> uniq_user: Grub 2 is staying,  plynmouth will be the actsaul boot up stuff
[16:31] <anil56554> theadmin : do they have for linux
[16:31] <DemoOn> i just need to know wich package could cause the problem with tray icons, so i could reinstall or downgrade...
[16:31] <theadmin> anil56554: I said, they're making it
[16:31] <gharz> anyone?
[16:31] <daem0nInflux> is gedit more like notepad or wordpad?
[16:32] <uniq_user> ahh, I was under the impression plymouth was another bootloader
[16:32] <sebsebseb> daem0nInflux: notepad
[16:32] <cherva> can I flush all the tables in iptables exept 1 ?
[16:32] <pk> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL30219/al-75052-1/AIO_CDB_NonNet_Full_Win_WW_130_141.exe         can anyone of you copy this file to a HTTP server .....i dont have access to FTp here....please
[16:32] <usr13> gharz: What is your question?
[16:32] <anil56554> theadmin: which torrent downloader you use
[16:32] <daem0nInflux> thanks sebsebseb
[16:32] <hiexpo> notepad
[16:32] <sebsebseb> daem0nInflux: np
[16:32] <IdleOne> DemoOn: that is the problem. packages might (probably) be named differently in gentoo.
[16:32] <DemoOn> IdleOne: no its not
[16:32] <theadmin> anil56554: Torrents? Just transmission which comes with Ubuntu
[16:32] <anil56554> pk i have a solution
[16:32] <pk> tell
[16:32] <DemoOn> IdleOne: gnome is gnome
[16:32] <sebsebseb> vikasap: maybe you have a bad CD
[16:33] <theadmin> pk: Wait a sec, I will do it in a while and give you the link via PM, okay?
[16:33] <CAPcap> I cannot watch videos on www.nbc.com I have tried seamonkey firefox and opera. suggestions? or can i not get it to work at all?
[16:33] <anil56554> download yourfreedom from http://your-freedom.net
[16:33] <IdleOne> DemoOn: fine, whatever you say. I still think you need to ask in #gentoo
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> pk, if you're using linux in a terminal just use "wget ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL30219/al-75052-1/AIO_CDB_NonNet_Full_Win_WW_130_141.exe"
[16:33] <usr13> !flash |CAPcap
[16:33] <theadmin> pk: Or no... did not think it's 300MB big
[16:33] <CAPcap> usr13 i have flash
[16:33] <DemoOn> IdleOne: but there was this issue with ubuntu too
[16:33] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: What's the problem in using wget on windows? XD
[16:34] <anil56554> theadmin: transmission does not work with slow connection
[16:34] <usr13> CAPcap: Do you get some sort of error?
[16:34] <Shazam> I'm on 9.04, the lastest version of eclipse in my repos is 3.2, and I need 3.3+ . Do I just have to install the .deb manually, or is there a way I can let apt handle it for me?
[16:34] <vikasap> sebsebseb: No, It works on other machines
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, the "problem is using windows" ;)
[16:34] <usr13> CAPcap: What happens when you try to play one of CNNs videos?
[16:34] <CAPcap> no it just never loads thru
[16:34] <nibbler> cherva: you can delete rules by rule, by number, or flush whole tables. so if you want to flush all but the INPUT table, just flush the others?
[16:34] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: I know, Windows is the whole problem everywhere. But there is a windows wget
[16:34] <DemoOn> IdleOne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pidgin/+bug/447548
[16:34] <vikasap> sebsebseb: It just does not have the right driver. How can I tell it to not use the graphics card for the display ?
[16:35] <frostbite7> where can i get plugins?
[16:35] <Diverdude> IdleOne, ok, trying that
[16:35] <theadmin> Anyway, pk, try TOR or a proxy to get this
[16:35] <frostbite7> and how do i install them?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> vikasap: well there will be some sort of build in open source driver type thing that NIvida will use, and if you can't use that well
[16:35] <gharz> usr13: my ubuntu was installed in window$ (wubi)... just now ubuntu has updated it's kernel... after the update and upon reboot grub is messed up. i don't have the option to choose amongst windows xp , ubuntu and win7
[16:35] <frostbite7> ...lol and good morning
[16:35] <theadmin> frostbite7: Plugins for wud?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> vikasap: oh your booting up into the live session?  have you tried just the install option?
[16:35] <pk> theadmin: thanx anyways
[16:36] <aha> hello
[16:36] <usr13> CAPcap: Run [firefox] from terminal and see if you see errors.
[16:36] <usr13> CAPcap: i.e.:  firefox http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/20/am.carroll.haiti.aftershocks.cnn&hpt=C1
[16:36] <glkhao035> !codecs
[16:36] <aha> guys is there a way to customize the look of the prompt without been root
[16:36] <frostbite7> theadmin plug ins like autumn leaves and stars
[16:36] <Diverdude> IdleOne, but how can matlab effect the entire system, even after i have closed matlab?
[16:36] <Diverdude> IdleOne, killed it
[16:36] <obiwan_> sure aha
[16:36] <theadmin> frostbite7: For what program, I mean?
[16:37] <obiwan_> open a terminal
[16:37] <vikasap> sebsebseb: There is just one option at the boot : "Install Ubuntu" ...
[16:37] <obiwan_> and edit profile preferences
[16:37] <aha> i deleted some hidden files and now the prompt is different
[16:37] <frostbite7> compiz on ubuntu 9.04
[16:37] <raven> is there a simple panel-plugin for counting the umts-data within one month?
[16:37] <aha> how can I make it look better
[16:37] <IdleOne> Diverdude: don't know. I was just hoping to give you a way of getting more info that might help you
[16:37] <CAPcap> usr13 i got it, they play in firefox and opera not gonna test seamonkey
[16:37] <theadmin> frostbite7: Well, try out gnome-look.org, a lot of stuff there
[16:38] <Diverdude> IdleOne, thx....its running from terminal now
[16:38] <cobreta> :)
[16:38] <CAPcap> usr13 im not having problems with flash generally i can play most other videos and flash files. the issue is nbc
[16:38] <frostbite7> lol well like do they have plug ins like the snow pluin or rain plug in or cube atlantis?
[16:38] <usr13> CAPcap: So what was the problem?
[16:38] <aha> obiwan_: how can I change the look of the prompt?
[16:38] <theadmin> frostbite7: Well, it's the best place for GNOME nice-looks I know
[16:38] <gharz> anyone?
[16:38] <sebsebseb> vikasap: which CD?
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> aha, ~/.bashrc file and the PS1 value controls the prompt
[16:39] <obiwan_> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31247
[16:39] <frostbite7> lol cool thank you very much :-)
[16:39] <usr13> gharz: Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:39] <gharz> i need to recover my grub. after update, grub doesn't work... i don't have the selection amongst window$ and ubuntu
[16:39] <gharz> usr13: yes... 9.10
[16:39] <obiwan_> that's a brief plus nice way to do it
[16:39] <cherva> nibbler: where can I find all the default tables and chains of iptables
[16:39] <aha> ZykoticK9: 10x I'll create the file
[16:39] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | gharz
[16:39] <usr13> !grub2 | gharz
[16:39] <Diverdude> IdleOne, now ubuntu has fucked up it seems....nothing in the terminals :(
[16:40] <raven> is there a simple panel-plugin for counting the umts-data within one month?
[16:40] <sdf23> i m not really concerned about ext4 i just need to keep my ugly outlook n crossoffice moving ....
[16:40] <theadmin> !language | Diverdude
[16:40] <gharz> thanks, guys... i'll check that out.
[16:40] <nibbler> cherva: its INPUT OUTPUT FORWARD and PREROUTIG POSTROUTING in nat
[16:40] <vikasap> sebsebseb: Ah...9.04 ... Can I do an install from the command line . I see that the terminals are ready
[16:40] <Diverdude> IdleOne, the menues are disappearing...very strange
[16:40] <sebsebseb> vikasap: well  don't think so with the desktop CD, the alternate maybe so
[16:40] <usr13> CAPcap: It is working now?
[16:40] <cherva> nibbler: 10x
[16:40] <sebsebseb> vikasap: I don't know
[16:40] <CAPcap> usr13 why dont you go to nbc.com and try one of their videos and tell me if it plays for you. for me it just sits there looking like its loading for all eternity
[16:40] <IdleOne> Diverdude: this happens with other applications also?
[16:40] <Xfact1> Picnik online photo editor does not working on my PC, I am using Ubuntu 9.10, I have latest flash player installed, I use latest Firefox and I have descent hardware, after uploading a picture to edit, my browser is freezing, anyone can tell me solution? (if you never heard about picnik before, then http://www.picnik.com/ will help you)
[16:41] <Diverdude> IdleOne, Hmm i dont recall so...but i cannot say it does not
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: ok it's FLash
[16:41] <theadmin> Xfact1: Maybe you need Java too
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: Adobe Flash messe's up in FIrefox on Ubuntu,  when it comes to some of us
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: it can make the browser freeze or close down, that kind of thing
[16:41] <usr13> CAPcap: I just did.  It works   ok.
[16:41] <theadmin> Xfact1: Ah I know. Flash + Firefox + UPloading on Ubuntu = Freeze
[16:41] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER für umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:41] <Xfact1> sebsebseb: yea, then which alternative I should use to run flash files?
[16:41] <usr13> CAPcap: Did you try what I said?
[16:42] <duffydack> theadmin, yeah i have noticed that before.
[16:42] <theadmin> Xfact1: Well... there is some free flash alternative in the repoes, but I forgot the name
[16:42] <duffydack> theadmin, in fact its any browser with flash and uploading
[16:42] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: you can try Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives to Flash, but they probably aren't quite good enough for your usage,  you can also  use Adobe Flash  the Mozilla one in other browsers that use it, such as Epiphany   sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser or Galeon
[16:42] <IdleOne> Diverdude: does matlab have a help forum you can post to? I really don't know how to help you with this issue, sorry
[16:42] <Xfact1> v yea, it's doesn't need java, and thats mean we have got a notable *bug* on ubuntu karmic!
[16:42] <CAPcap> usr13: what did u say to try
[16:42] <CAPcap> ?
[16:42] <theadmin> duffydack: I only tried Firefox :D
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: no
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: Adobe Flash is closed source, only Adobe can fix it for Ubuntu
[16:43] <Diverdude> IdleOne, Its strange because i never had this sort of problem when running matlab from windows....And it does not help to restart matlab. I have to restart the entire system
[16:43] <aha> guys how do I go back in the terminal without quiting irssi?
[16:43] <usr13> CAPcap: Scroll up
[16:44] <CAPcap> i cant find what u said thats why im asking
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: however  I think there's some kind of plugin issue  with Firefox, hence that Flash issue.  basically a plugin doesn't work properly, and then the browser goes wrong
[16:44] <diago> can I disable the notification that popup?
[16:44] <usr13> CAPcap:  firefox http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/20/am.carroll.haiti.aftershocks.cnn&hpt=C1  # From terminal - watch for errors - tell us what you see.
[16:44] <diago> in 9.10
[16:44] <aha> is there a way to minimize irssi in the terminal so I can use it?
[16:45] <Myrtti> aha: minimize in the terminal? huh?
[16:45] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER für umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:45] <llutz> aha: use screen
[16:45] <aha> or something like that
[16:45] <paulus68> aha you could use the screen option
[16:45] <Xfact1> even you know what, I am an artistic guy and looking for a decent video editor for long day, and I found one online video editor, which runs also totally on Flash, running nicely on my PC! http://mixerbeta.jaycut.se/mixer
[16:45] <aha> and then how do i switch back and forth in the screen?
[16:46] <sebsebseb> raven: fur  with the two dots,  are you Germen?  if so there's another channel you can try as well
[16:46] <llutz> aha: ctrl-a-n/p
[16:46] <paulus68> !screen|aha
[16:46] <Xfact1> a whole online video editor is working, but the photo editor is not :(
[16:46] <Myrtti> aha: ctrl-a-c creates a new window, ctrl-a-p / n, scrolls between
[16:46] <aha> paulus68: 10x
[16:46] <raven> sebsebseb, two dots?
[16:46] <llutz> raven: u-umlaut ü
[16:46] <Myrtti> aha: you can detach from the session with ctrl-a-d and reattach with screen -dr
[16:46] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I found out what I needed to do, instead of sudo killall xorg, it was, sudo killall Xorg
[16:47] <sebsebseb> raven: yes  in your text
[16:47] <raven> oh sry sebsebseb
[16:47] <sebsebseb> raven: no it's fine, I was just wondering about it
[16:47] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER for umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:47] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, thanks for al your help! :D
[16:47] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Then you created the xorg.conf?
[16:47] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: I thought I did told you Xorg. :P
[16:47] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I sure did, maybe it was my fault >.<
[16:47] <raven> sebsebseb, you're right it seems that i am tired ;)
[16:48] <sebsebseb> raven: same here
[16:48] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: ._.
[16:48] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, -.-"
[16:48] <sebsebseb> raven: or so it seems
[16:48] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: At least we both know it work. :)
[16:48] <CAPcap> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/359614/
[16:48] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, haha yes ;D
[16:49] <paulus68> are there any known issues using nfs server on ubuntu server 9.10?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> raven: what's umts anyway?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> !server | paulus68
[16:49] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: 3G
[16:49] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, wuh oh..
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: oh mobile something?
[16:49] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: yes. faster internets
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: oh ok ty
[16:50] <pedro> hola
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: I guess
[16:50] <Xfact1> !kernel
[16:50] <paulus68> sebsebseb: not what I ment
[16:50] <brainbox> im running server
[16:50] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: theoretical maximum download ~5MBit/s
[16:50] <kelevra> hallo
[16:50] <llutz> very theoretical
[16:50] <kelevra> kann hier irgendwer deutsch? :DD
[16:50] <llutz> !de  | kelevra
[16:50] <brainbox> Linux 2.6.32.3-custom #1 SMP Sun Jan 17 05:31:32 EST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:51] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, seems it didnt work, although I recieved a better output than before, I'll attempt to remove the blank xorg file, see if that fixes anything
[16:51] <kyle6513> be riiiiight back
[16:51] <sebsebseb> paulus68: sure, but  the last bit,  there's a channel for the server edition, which might be more suitable for your issue
[16:51] <freeride> !wget
[16:51] <Myrtti> llutz, sebsebseb: requires a HSDPA device, but 3G nonetheless. a lot faster than normal GSM.
[16:51] <paulus68> umts is data trafic over mobile network 3G but can be very expensive if you don't pay attention
[16:51] <freeride> !wget | freeride
[16:52] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: whatever  a HSDPA device is, I don't know that much about mobile
[16:52] <llutz> Myrtti: 1st you'll need a provider offering all that, everywhere at affordable prices
[16:52] <Myrtti> llutz: Finland ♥
[16:52] <uiko>  I am able to open *.torrent file in notepad in windows but in gedit i cant do this , please give me any solution ?
[16:52] <ZykoticK9> freeride, i don't think there is a wget factoid
[16:52] <llutz> Myrtti: so, that's "very theoretical" in DE
[16:53] <llutz> Myrtti: fast internet but too cold :(
[16:53] <sebsebseb> llutz: well not in the summer
[16:53] <raven> sebsebseb, internet trough the mobile-phone-network
[16:53] <sebsebseb> raven: oh ok
[16:53] <fishsponge> hey people - does anyone know if linux has LLDP (link layer discovery protocol, for creating network maps in this instance) enabled by default these days?
[16:53] <sebsebseb> ty
[16:53] <Switch10> uiko: have you tried nano?
[16:53] <raven> sebsebseb, what do you have as mobile-networks?
[16:53] <aml> hola! alguien habla español???
[16:53] <uiko> nano, what is that ?
[16:54] <dabaR> !es
[16:54] <Switch10> uiko: cl text editor
[16:54] <aml> ok
[16:55] <uiko> it is showing installed in software manager , now how to open nano
[16:55] <uiko> ?
[16:55] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, Alright, I found out it is no longer outputted into /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[16:55] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: It is not. It is in /root/ something (with default).  Which we never got around to it. :p
[16:55] <Switch10> uiko: open a terminal and type nano then the torrent file
[16:56] <dabaR> uiko: why are you not able to open it with gedit?
[16:56] <Switch10> Gedit should work
[16:56] <sebsebseb> raven: makers or networks?  networks will be different for each countrey.  Also you seem to be asking me something that is off topic.  I don't care that much about mobile phones, except slightly when it comes to stuff like what operating system they are running and what browser they have, for those that have a browser.   At the end of the day even mobile phones that run Linux are propritary,  they are sold, and then people also pay to use a mobile
[16:56] <uiko> dabar it is giving some 'character coding error'
[16:56] <sebsebseb> phone network with that phone.
[16:57] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, nope, /home/user/xorg.conf.new
[16:57] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbm videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[16:57] <uiko> switch10 the file is at desktop , how to open it, I opened nano in terminal
[16:57] <stefan__> Can a mod kick the nick 'Noble' from the server? Forgot to log out at work :/
[16:57] <Shambat> is there a way to, after the process is finished, see how long a pid ran for? I realize I can go to "top" and see it there, but is there a way to record the running time once it finishes?
[16:57] <riktking> my .xsession.errors has Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[16:57] <riktking> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. at the end of it
[16:58] <Switch10> Type cd Desktop first then nano file.torrent
[16:58] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Move it to /etc/X11/ (and eliminate .new)
[16:58] <dabaR> stefan__: do you have noble as a registered nickname?
[16:58] <uiko> is there any GUI based App which can open *.torrent coz the torrent file name is too hug
[16:58] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: I'm pre-occupied writing a script. :)
[16:58] <uiko> huge
[16:58] <stefan__> dabaR, yes
[16:58] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> riktking: you can probably ignore that message. do you need directory sharing with other users enabled right now?
[16:59] <dabaR> stefan__: then you can /msg nickserv release Noble $password or so
[16:59] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, If I pastebin this. would you kindly help me decipher whats in this, oh, i see, ill try dr google then :)
[16:59] <stefan__> dabR ty
[16:59] <riktking> onetinsoldier, no
[16:59] <Switch10> uiko: hit tab after typing a few characters
[16:59] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Okay. Pastebinit.
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> riktking: roger. it's a networking sharing thing
[16:59] <riktking> onetinsoldier, but i was about 2gig before i deleted it and rebooted
[17:00] <onetinsoldier> riktking: oh
[17:00] <Guest94426> quit
[17:00] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, no its okay, I guess the best way for me to learn this, and linux is for me to teach myself :) I will however come back if im pulling my hair out over this
[17:00] <kuu887>  Sds e meus melhores cumprimentos aos do canal...
[17:00] <kuu887>   preciso de auxilio em NSE do NMAP..fazendo aprim.alguem manja
[17:00] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[17:00] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, but is there any chance that this file would cause my computer not to boot?
[17:00] <sebsebseb> !pt |  duffydack
[17:00] <sebsebseb> duffydack: uh  no not you
[17:00] <riktking> onetinsoldier, spose im just gunna have to keep an eye on it?>
[17:00] <sebsebseb> odd way to mess up the auto complete since their name beings with a po
[17:00] <sebsebseb> p
[17:00] <sebsebseb> begins
[17:01] <sebsebseb> k  then ok well tired
[17:01] <onetinsoldier> riktking: i suppose
[17:01] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: If that happen, you should fall down to TTY1.
[17:01] <sebsebseb> !pt |  kuu887
[17:01] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, ah then do a rm
[17:01] <uiko> It worked thanks a lot switch
[17:01] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: mv -- be safe than sorry.
[17:01] <Switch10> uiko: no prob
[17:02] <riktking> onetinsoldier, just checked it and it has the same msg again
[17:02] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, good luck with your scripts! that's my next endeavour, learn how to make/do them >.<
[17:02] <CAPcap> ok i know i keep asking but i would like some help so.. i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[17:02] <riktking> onetinsoldier, is there a way to stop this from happening
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, are you in the US?  All i get from Canada is the NBC logo flashing and nothing else...
[17:02] <duffydack> sebsebseb, huh??
[17:03] <duffydack> sebsebseb,  oh.. ok
[17:03] <Switch10> Is there a program out there that shows the individual voltages of co
[17:03] <Switch10> Co
[17:03] <CAPcap> I am in the US and thats all i get too. but other usr13 says it plays for him
[17:03] <DrBelka> whats up, guys?
[17:03] <Switch10> Components*
[17:03] <DeeTah> i just overwrote my mbr
[17:03] <CAPcap> he logged off halfway thru helping me tho
[17:03] <DeeTah> how to recover it while i'm still on ubuntu?
[17:03] <DeeTah> (how to reinstall grub2 on mbr?)
[17:03] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | DeeTah
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, same result for me with both FF and Chrome BTW
[17:04] <seft> HOw to know names of all applications that comes with linux terminal and only runs in terminal
[17:04] <CAPcap> zykotick9 ive tested in Firefox seamonkey and opera
[17:04] <MorphyNOR> seft: was that a question?
[17:05] <seft> yes
[17:05] <onetinsoldier> riktking: yes, i believe there is. i would try and help with it, but i have to go. good luck
[17:05] <sebsebseb> seft: not sure if you can just find that out, plus Ubuntu won't have all of those installed by default, and all of them won't be in the repo either I guess
[17:05] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, hopefully someone from the US can test for you (i'm sure Canada is blocked)
[17:06] <CAPcap> who's from the US that can test an nbc.com video for me?
[17:06] <goruka> HELP! I'm on ubuntu 9.10 and i did the latest recommended update, then restarted and now netorking is _incredibly_ slow. This computer with windows on the same subnet works fine...
[17:07] <Django1> nbc.com working here
[17:07] <goruka> ping to router of same subnet losses packets like crazy
[17:07] <usr13> CAPcap: nbc.com video works.  It is your system that is deficient.
[17:08] <CAPcap> usr13 well then why dont u help me fix it?
[17:08] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: it could be a tempory  problem with your ISP's DNS (assuming your using that)
[17:09] <ZykoticK9> Django1, usr13 did you try clicking on an episode of something?  the videos on the main page work for me too - but if I click Magnum PI on the right side, it sits on the NBC logo
[17:09] <CAPcap> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/359614/ thats what u asked for
[17:09] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: oh video, not the whole website nevermind then
[17:10] <Django1> ok, magnum pi isn't working for me either
[17:10] <usr13> CAPcap: Is your 9.10 system fully updated?
[17:11] <jay_> hello...?
[17:11] <jenda> Is there a way to get rid of pulseaudio altogether and use only alsa instead? My apps crash whenever two of them try to use the sound devices, and I think pulseaudio is the culprit. I don't know how to get around it, though.
[17:11] <sebsebseb> !hello | jay_
[17:11] <CAPcap> usr13 yes it is
[17:11] <jenda> For example, my firefox crashes when trying to play a video or sound while amarok is running.
[17:12] <goruka> jenda, no, there is no way and it's default in ubuntu. remove it and all gnome stuff stops working properly
[17:12] <usr13> CAPcap: Have you tryed just rebooting?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> jenda: there is a way to remove pulseaudio, but  it's probably not really the best idea,  since other things can mess up as a result
[17:12] <goruka> jenda, and i agree, incredibly stupid decision given how buggy pulseaudio always is
[17:12] <pif> what is root's default passwd on a newly installed system?
[17:12] <CAPcap> usr13 i tried watching last night, didnt work. shut down my computer overnight and started up this morning. still not working
[17:13] <sebsebseb> jenda: try  Flash in another browser instead of Firefox
[17:13] <goruka> also HELP! I'm on ubuntu 9.10 and i did the latest recommended update, then restarted and now netorking is _incredibly_ slow. This computer with windows on the same subnet works fine...
[17:13] <jenda> goruka: indeed, I have been having trouble with it every since it was added.
[17:13] <sebsebseb> jenda: Adobe Flash gets issues in Firefox in Ubuntu for some users
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> jenda, i DO NOT RECOMMEND it - but removing pulse info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/359627/ --- first off, you're dramatically chaning Ubuntu.  secondly, you won't have the default volume meter in system tray anymore
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, same here
[17:14] <erUSUL> !root | pif
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, pulseaudio is more trouble than benefits so far for ubuntu
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, hope they realize that soon
[17:14] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: I was thinking about mentioning that  volume  meter thing to him, but you did so :)
[17:14] <Disconnect> anyone using cloud?
[17:14] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: as in Ubuntu One?
[17:14] <xNinja> hello...i am trying to install thc-vlogger on my ubuntu 8.04 but using ./configure i got error...
[17:14]  * Disconnect is having issues building images because eucalyptus seems to be buggy as hell :( 
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: no guess not then
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb, ZykoticK9, goruka - thanks. I'll stick to not removing it, then. Any tips as to how to fix it? :)
[17:15] <jay_> gee i thought i had issues...lol
[17:15] <sebsebseb> jenda: already gave you something you can try for FLash
[17:15] <Disconnect> sebsebseb: yah. store image works. vmbuilder image comes up and promptly shuts down with http://pastebin.ca/1759132
[17:15] <sebsebseb> jenda: try in another browser
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: oh it is Ubuntu One, ok I don't use it myself, and there is a specific channel for it
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb: right, saw that
[17:15] <pif> when I try "sudo <command>" it complains I am not in the sudoers file...
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !one
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb: the same problem occurs with VLC and Fallout 2 in wine, though, so I don't think it's flash related.
[17:16] <codise> pulseaudio is also overly CPU consuming on netbooks with atom-processors.
[17:16] <jenda> sebsebseb: although you're right that adobe flash does cause issues of its own :)
[17:16] <jay_> ummm....question???
[17:16] <sebsebseb> jenda: well I guess there's a way to disable pulseaudio in Ubuntu some how
[17:16] <guntbert> pif: only the first user is in the sudoers file per default
[17:17] <goruka> sebsebseb, i tried, everything breaks in 9.10 so i'm stuck with it and all its bugs too
[17:17] <pif> but there is only one user
[17:17] <NickWebHA> I just reinstall Ubuntu from the netinstall (as I have done several times on this machine) but this time the audio application on the top bar does not see any audio hardware.
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> pif, in a terminal type "groups" and verify that your user is in the admin group
[17:17] <goruka> sebsebseb, thanks to pulseaudio i'm using windows7 a lot mor recently
[17:17] <jenda> sebsebseb: I suppose I'll go with ZykoticK9 's suggestions if nothing else works.
[17:18] <NickWebHA> I tried adding lines to alsa-base.conf but no go.
[17:18] <usr13> CAPcap: Have you installed any new applications or upgraded to new version of Firefox or changed something that might have some impact on your ability to use Firefox to watch cnn videos (during the time frame in which you are no longer able to view cnn videos)?
[17:18] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I think i found an easier explanation, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351647 although, i cannot find 915resolution
[17:18] <pif> ZykoticK9: in the 'adm' group (using lucid)
[17:18] <Roasted> people are still having issues with pulse audio? O.o
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> pif, if you're using lucid repost in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <pif> ok
[17:19] <CAPcap> usr13 i CAN view CNN and no i installed ubuntu havent touched firefox upgrade or plugins aside from installing flash
[17:19] <ZykoticK9> pif, FYI adm is NOT the same as admin
[17:19] <objorn> i have a problem, when i mount my external hard drive, i'm told that it's read only, even if i do 'gksudo nautilus' i'm not able to drop files into it
[17:19] <objorn> what do i need to do?
[17:19] <karikari> :o
[17:19] <pc_magas> Hello
[17:19] <fabiosl> :D
[17:19] <jay_> hi pc
[17:19] <Django1> CAPcap, are you running 64bit?
[17:19] <CAPcap> usr13 as ive said i can watch most things flash appears to be working. its NBC video that doesnt work
[17:20] <CAPcap> Django1 No
[17:20] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: If you can, try use xrandr to set resolutions.
[17:20] <quarkup> hey there. how many seconds do ubuntu to start up ? (i mean, the time from pressing the button to be able to launch an application)
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: oh no!
[17:20] <usr13> CAPcap:  You CAN view CNN videos? ... you are confusing me...
[17:20] <pc_magas> May ask sth?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: what why?
[17:20] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, yeah i have, keeps telling me that the resolution is not found, even though its there plain as day
[17:20] <quarkup> *how many seconds does need for ubuntu to startup ?
[17:20] <usr13> CAPcap: What flash player do you have installed?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: oh he I read wrong, I thought you put thanks to me :D
[17:20] <CAPcap> usr13 the issue has been about nbc video you asked me to test on cnn and i told u it works
[17:20] <gkahla> anyone know how to make gstreamer write id3v2 tags instead of v1?
[17:21] <Django1> CAPcap: i've tried to watch the same video under windows and it works, whereas it does not under ubuntu
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> quarkup, that question is going to be different for everyone!
[17:21] <cweilem> quarkup:  depends on your setup and what's set to run at boot...  My machine can be up and running in under 2 minutes
[17:21] <usr13> CAPcap: Oh sorry nbc videos is what you are having problems with...  I thought it was cnn.
[17:21] <usr13> sorry.
[17:21] <objorn> how do you enable the disk to be writeable?
[17:21] <objorn> !write
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> usr13, have YOU tried clicking on Magnum PI on the NBC site?  i doubt it works for you either (maybe)
[17:21] <xNinja> hello...i am trying to install thc-vlogger on my ubuntu 8.04 but using ./configure i got error... here: http://pastie.org/786729
[17:22] <usr13> CAPcap:  Could you sent a link to a video you can NOT view?
[17:22] <quarkup> i was looking for some info to know the major differences there are from the current release and the last release i used up to 2 years ago
[17:22] <pc_magas> Were can i find an e-shop that sels laptops with Linux pre-installed?
[17:22] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Send a link.
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> usr13, try http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/magnum-pi/video/episodes/#vid=1164447
[17:22] <CAPcap> http://www.nbc.com/chuck/video/episodes/#vid=1191926
[17:22] <pc_magas> ubuntu
[17:22] <dunc> pc_magas, dell do them
[17:23] <pc_magas> But I'm in if i find a dell may i buy it in Ubuntu
[17:23] <cweilem> quarkup:  still dependent on hardware
[17:23] <Myrtti> objorn: it might have been mounted readonly, you could check by typing "mount" in console
[17:23] <quarkup> cweilem: im using a pentium-m
[17:23] <dunc> pc_magas, i've had 2 netbooks from dell, both bought with ubuntu on them
[17:23] <gkahla> pc_magas- http://system76.com/index.php
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- are you in the UK?
[17:24] <pc_magas> No I'm from Greece
[17:24] <quarkup> 1.73GHz and 2 GRam
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- I've also purchased several machines from Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed. all very nice machines
[17:24] <quarkup> i get something as fast as 18~20 seconds on archlinux using KDE
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/#pidR26881
[17:24] <trism> CAPcap: if it is just nbc's site that is the problem, you should be able to watch the nbc shows on hulu instead, it works fine on ubuntu (if you live in the US anyway)
[17:25] <_raven> need a tool to record simply internal WEBCAM and MICROPHON - any ideas?
[17:25] <pc_magas> As for me for my 3g connection i was given also a dell inspiron mini with Windows Xp but i installled Ubuntu
[17:25] <pc_magas> Manually
[17:25] <quarkup> if dont know if there are many major changes in the last 4 releases (6 months each). about speed, performance, etc..
[17:25] <cweilem> quarkup:  okay, with an auto login, it's safe to assume that you could be up and running an app in under 60 seconds, but that's still simply an assumption
[17:26] <CAPcap> trism ok but some people can watch... so should i be able to make it work somehow? if now i can use hulu i suppose... i hate hulu but whatever
[17:26] <quarkup> ok ok
[17:26] <[criipt]> Failed to fetch http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop-data_2.28.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:26] <usr13> ZykoticK9: I just get the NBC peacock from: http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/magnum-pi/video/episodes/
[17:26] <pc_magas> But Also the Greek minister of education Gives Us 400 euros for byinng A laptop
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> usr13, ya, we all do!
[17:26] <[criipt]> How could I fix that?
[17:26] <CAPcap> anyone kno how to install the flash player for internet explorer in wine?
[17:26] <quarkup> i guess arch fits nicer on my machine :D
[17:26] <tlir> ﻿my machine just got freezed and last thing in syslog was " Bad page state in process 'mysqld' page:c169a320 flags:0x40000040 mapping:00000000 mapcount:17 count:0"  described more elaborately here: http://pastebin.ca/1759148 - it is running 8.04.2 with kernel 2.6.24-23-server
[17:27] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: why do you want to do that?  also IE under Wine should only really be used for web developers that need to test their site in IE
[17:27] <dunc> quarkup, how many times a day are you planning on booting your machine?
[17:27] <quarkup> well up to 2/3
[17:28] <tlir> according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676 it seems to be a kernel error
[17:28] <CAPcap> sebsebseb, i want to see if it will play nbc video =P i can install an old verison of flash player from a disk i have because i do web design but id still need to update it
[17:28] <quarkup> just to know how is it going.. i would like to have another install of ubuntu
[17:28] <quarkup> but im running out of space
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: have you tried Adobe Flash in another browser?
[17:28] <quarkup> and i dont know how fast is it going now
[17:28] <pc_magas> Test vm
[17:28] <CAPcap> sebsebseb yes
[17:28] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Ok well let me go to a MS Windows box and see if I can tell what is supposed to happen.  I'll be back in a little bit.
[17:28] <dunc> 2 or 3 times a day though, does it actually matter if it takes an extra 30s?
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: I mean from the Ubuntu repo
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: epiphany or galeon or both
[17:28] <quarkup> VM is slower than the real machine
[17:29] <Django1> nbc doesn't work in Opera either
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[17:29] <CAPcap> sebsebseb idk
[17:29] <quarkup> im runing a old pentium-m (no dual core)
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> usr13, it's CAPcap that's trying to get it working
[17:29] <quarkup> it has 5+ years
[17:29] <quarkup> and its fast fast on my kernel
[17:29] <dunc> you've wasted a good few boots already in the time we've been talking about it is my point
[17:29] <dunc> :)
[17:29] <quarkup> :D
[17:29] <fabiotheape> how do i found out what kind of VGA I have?
[17:29] <quarkup> xD
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: if you have Flash issues with Ubuntu's  Firefox,  try in another browser that uses the same Flash
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: I just told you about two that do
[17:29] <LFC_fan|ZNC> Where are empathy's user configuration files stored?
[17:30] <jay_> i have a dell dimension 2400 with an intel card that freezes.....82845g. any ideas how to roll back the driver to an i810 instead of karmics i915?
[17:30] <LFC_fan|ZNC> ~/.empathy ?
[17:30] <quarkup> fabiotheape: lspci | grep VGA
[17:30] <CAPcap> sebsebseb well im installing what u told me to
[17:30] <[criipt]> Anyone ?
[17:30] <fabiotheape> thank you quarkup
[17:30] <pif> how do I prevent the password prompt after waking up?
[17:30] <fabiotheape> nice, rage 128 Pro...
[17:31] <quarkup> [criipt]: maybe you should refresh your apt cache
[17:31] <sebsebseb> !browsers | CAPcap
[17:31] <quarkup> update
[17:31] <quarkup> like
[17:31] <quarkup> sudo aptitude update
[17:31] <tlir> what is the most recent/stable kernel available for 8.04.2 in the repos?
[17:31] <[criipt]> quarkup, did that, same thing =(
[17:31] <sebsebseb> tlir: uhmm you should get whatever it is as an update, if you don't already have it
[17:32] <noXandOs> Hey guys, I'm looking for something to do. I'm not really having trouble with any hardware so... I need to be busy learning.. What should I do?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> !details | noXandOs
[17:32] <fabiotheape> next task, install network printer...
[17:32] <hiexpo> raed read read
[17:32] <Guest78459> slaut
[17:32] <fabiotheape> noXandOs, learn a programming language?
[17:32] <usr13> ZykoticK9: CAPcap Doing some research on the NBC video issue  and ran across this:  http://ostatic.com/blog/linux-users-on-nbcs-olympics-videos-we-dont-get-no-respect  (I know it is from a few months ago, may or may not still be relevant to our situation.)
[17:32] <CAPcap> sebsebseb epiphany doesnt even get as far as firefox.
[17:32] <Guest78459> salut
[17:32] <quarkup> [criipt]: sudo aptitude clean
[17:33] <sebsebseb> !fr |  Guest78459
[17:33] <quarkup> then sudo aptitude update
[17:33] <tlir> sebsebseb: apt-get upgrade doesn't recommend to upgrade the kernel
[17:33] <noXandOs> I know a little programming
[17:33] <fabiotheape> noXandOs, learn some more
[17:33] <Clint_> hi... how do i add a screen resolution on ubuntu 9.10 because the max i can only get is 1280x800... can anyone please help
[17:33] <sebsebseb> tlir: ok why do you want later kernel?]
[17:33] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Clint_: make sure your graphics card driver is installed, if there is one to install
[17:33] <Geo> kk .. nan etti
[17:33] <thefirstdude> why no package SVN??
[17:33] <Geo> !!
[17:33] <tlir> sebsebseb: read my previous post?
[17:33] <fabiotheape> what do i want to do with grub? (updating)
[17:33] <Geo> SVN or  GIT?
[17:33] <quarkup> [criipt]: maybe your server is not synchronized or has downloaded that package with errors and therefore the md5sum does not match
[17:33] <Geo> GIT alle latestt?
[17:34] <kyle6513> Clint_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Dynamically%20testing%20different%20resolutions
[17:34] <Clint_> howdo i find tht out
[17:34] <hiexpo> clint did you update your drivers
[17:34] <sebsebseb> tlir: I didn't see you give a reason for wanting a later kernel
[17:34] <noXandOs> well i do have this dusty computer over here in the corner
[17:34] <tlir> sebsebseb: ﻿my machine just got freezed and last thing in syslog was " Bad page state in process 'mysqld' page:c169a320 flags:0x40000040 mapping:00000000 mapcount:17 count:0"  described more elaborately here: http://pastebin.ca/1759148 - it is running 8.04.2 with kernel 2.6.24-23-server. ﻿according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676 it seems to be a kernel error
[17:34] <Geo> pathukke type cheyyada... onnu vaayikatte
[17:34] <fabiotheape> keep local version, install new version??
[17:34] <noXandOs> Hrmm
[17:34] <[criipt]> quarkup, Same again.
[17:34] <Clint_> cheers i takea look @ tht
[17:34] <sebsebseb> tlir: oh well it seems to be something to do with mysql
[17:34] <thefirstdude> what to install to get SVN
[17:34] <Geo> wats hapening here?
[17:34] <[criipt]> Even tried fix-missing quake_guy
[17:34] <[criipt]> quarkup, ^
[17:34] <arunb> Geo: which language??
[17:34] <noXandOs> brb
[17:34] <Geo> SVN repositry?
[17:34] <trism> thefirstdude: sudo apt-get install subversion
[17:35] <tlir> sebsebseb: either that or the kernel :)
[17:35] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, what do you make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:35] <Geo> arun:chinese
[17:35] <CAPcap> usr13 what total bullsh*t
[17:35] <sebsebseb> tlir: there is bound to be a ppa on launchpad for a later kernel for 8.04, however it's ueasuly best for people to stay with the standard kernels.   plus since ppa's aren't fully  supported shoudn't get loads of them, and they might cause issues when you upgrade Ubuntu
[17:35] <Geo> koooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi
[17:35] <Geo> nirthiyo?
[17:35] <Geo> continue
[17:36] <Geo> !!
[17:36] <CAPcap> usr13 hulu for me i guess unless i can figure out how to get flash for Wine iexplore
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: try Galeon now
[17:36] <Geo> Galeon?
[17:36] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap, If the situations described in the above article is still relevant today, I imagine a big stink is in store.  There is going to be a lot of rivalry in the not too distant future as well.
[17:36] <CAPcap> sebsebseb wanna give me the command for that?
[17:36] <hadean> hey guys
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install galeon
[17:36] <CAPcap> thanks
[17:36] <Geo> hadean: hello..
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: np
[17:37] <usr13> CAPcap: hulu works for you?
[17:37] <hadean> i touched the usbcable of my external hdd and it disappeared, and even after re-plugging it wont appear...
[17:37] <tlir> sebsebseb: I'm currently running 2.6.24-23. I'm seeing that there's linux-image-2.6.24-26-server available in apt-get search results
[17:37] <hadean> what job can i restart?
[17:37] <Geo> no hulu don't work
[17:37] <hadean> to get her to work
[17:37] <hadean> Geo: hi
[17:37] <sebsebseb> tlir: you got the 8.04 server version?
[17:37] <usr13> sebsebseb: geleon?  is that a video player?
[17:37] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:37] <sebsebseb> usr13: no browser
[17:37] <Geo> hadean: wer r u frm?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> !browsers | usr13
[17:37] <hadean> ger
[17:37] <perlsyntax> Is the radeon hd2300 support by ubuntu?
[17:37] <tlir> sebsebseb: yes I'm running 8.04.2
[17:37] <Geo> yes
[17:37] <usr13> sebsebseb: Does it work to play nbc videos?
[17:37] <CAPcap> Does Google Chrome work on linux?
[17:37] <Geo> I guss
[17:38] <perlsyntax> i hope it is
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, yes
[17:38] <Geo> chromium
[17:38] <sebsebseb> usr13: oh it's not mentioned in the factoid
[17:38] <sebsebseb> !info galeon
[17:38] <sebsebseb> for advanced users? what the?
[17:38] <CAPcap> suweet
[17:38] <Geo> chrom is called chromium!!
[17:38] <sebsebseb> for advanced users, no it's not, it's for anyone that wants to use it
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, there is also a Google Chome Beta direct from google (which includes a repo to update itself), or the opensource Chromium
[17:38] <Geo> da pulle ninte adutta paranje
[17:38] <hadean> i touched the usbcable of my external hdd and it disappeared, and even after re-plugging it wont appear... what job can i restart to try to get it to run again? restarted GDM and it didnt help
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> Geo, chrome and chromium NOT the same things!
[17:38] <sebsebseb> !troll | Geo
[17:38] <Geo> aa.... poda patti
[17:39] <tlir> sebsebseb: seems that 2.6.24-26-server is available for install
[17:39] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:39] <sebsebseb> ok probably not a troll really
[17:39] <thefirstdude> the version of blender I just got 2.48a is not working on ubuntu 9.04
[17:40] <sebsebseb> tlir: from the repo?
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: yeah, it's available
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, that's pretty standard, it's the available color depths
[17:40] <sebsebseb> install it then if you want
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: and the bug isn't related to mysql, it's related to the kernel.
[17:40] <thefirstdude> the top and bottom of the editing window is like all white and blurs/deformed
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: all google results I'm getting about this bug are all showing up 8.04.2 system
[17:40] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, oh okay thanks, if I add a custom resolution, where would that sit?
[17:40] <dunc> kyle6513, it does look like part of an xorg.conf file yes
[17:40] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[17:40] <CAPcap> sebsebseb galeon wont play either. im just going to use hulu i guess :(
[17:40] <sebsebseb> tlir: get all your updates 8.04.4 or something it is now the latest
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: here http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1336598.html  here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/328186 and here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676
[17:41] <hadean> can someone tell me wich daemon is responsible for usbstuff or hard disk mounting?
[17:41] <tlir> sebsebseb: what would be the standard way of getting all updates? apt-get upgrade ?
[17:41] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap,  Does hulu work?
[17:41] <ZykoticK9> usr13, i'm in Canada, so NO for me
[17:41] <trism> usr13: hulu works fine on ubuntu
[17:41] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: if you want to do a Windows browser under Wine, well FIrefox :)  and maybe change the user agent so it says Linux rather than Windows, so you don't help with Windows browser market share :D
[17:41] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap,  Does hulu play NBC videos?
[17:41] <trism> usr13: assuming you're in the united states
[17:42] <daijoubu> How to autoload modprobe modules? I have compiled modules for my DVB card but they don't autoload, and after reboot they are not loaded, can someone tell me how to make them autoload ?
[17:42] <trism> usr13: it should have most of nbc's videos (considering nbc owns hulu)
[17:42] <[criipt]> quarkup, Im guessing its a problem with the server. Ill just wait it out.
[17:42] <CAPcap> usr13: sure does!
[17:42] <hadean> this is not a help in any ways
[17:42] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/359641/ as an example
[17:42] <cdi> has anyone here used avidemux to add subtitles to a movie?
[17:42] <_raven> need a tool to record simply internal WEBCAM and MICROPHON - any ideas?
[17:42] <erUSUL> daijoubu: add their names to /etc/modules
[17:43] <_raven> need a simple NETWORK DATA COUNTER (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[17:43] <erUSUL> daijoubu: althougt maybe you only need to run « sudo depmod -a »
[17:43] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, will this force X11 to allow me to change to this resolution? since xrandr has decided to be er, whats the word I'm looking for...
[17:43] <ZykoticK9> _raven, re-webcam have you tried cheese?
[17:43] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, resistant of sorts...
[17:43] <daijoubu> erUSUL thank you :) will try both
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, it really depends on your graphics card / driver --- if you aren't using Nvidia I'm no help
[17:44] <kyle6513> _raven, try conky!
[17:44] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, ah okay, intel T.T
[17:44] <fosa> i'm on 8.10 and would like to upgrade
[17:44] <localh0st> anybody know how could i copy files from my win7 folder called as "appdata/roaming" - i think its blocked for read, because when i'm in i cant see anything (no files)
[17:44] <fosa> is clicking the "upgrade" button in my update manager a bad idea?
[17:44] <CAPcap> usr13 yes ut does
[17:44] <CAPcap> it*
[17:45] <trism> _raven: the system monitor applet shows a nice graph of network activity (if you enable it in the properties)
[17:46] <phreestyle-work> I am having a problem with DBus preventing privileged applications from running. Can someone help me out? I posted full details about the problems in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386039
[17:46] <_raven> trism, yes i have it already installed but i need an addition about some time - 30 days in this case - of the data i've downloaded
[17:47] <dani> hi
[17:47] <trism> _raven: ahh sorry, no idea then
[17:47] <dani> is someone here?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> fosa: may as well stay on 8.10 for now or upgrade to 9.04
[17:47] <fosa> 9.10 isn't worth it?
[17:47] <goruka> ok another bug nvidia driver doesn't load by default
[17:48] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[17:48] <arunb> my vlc is hanging frequently in karmic
[17:48] <sebsebseb> fosa: 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades can go wrong, and have done on quite a lot of people.  and there isn't anything properly worth it in 9.10
[17:48] <goruka> how can ubutu 9.10 be _so_ plagued with bugs?
[17:48] <sebsebseb> fosa: if got a slightly older version already on there
[17:48] <arunb> any idea abt it?
[17:49] <sebsebseb> fosa: plus on 9.04 upgrade,  no Grub 2 and  those Ext3 9.04 installs won't get converted to Ext4,  but those two features aren't really needed anyway
[17:50] <inManix> yo
[17:50] <Nameless_au> when did ext4 come into use?
[17:50] <Nameless_au> 9.10?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> fosa: there is a way to get Grub 2 after a 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade,  and a way to convert Ext3 to Ext4, but  it seems that really to get the proper thing a new partition would have to be made
[17:50] <sebsebseb> Nameless_au: it's optional for 9.04, just not perfectly stable  their, since the kernel 9.04 uses and such
[17:50] <goruka> This is totally awesome, i have _2 bugs_ prevending me from logging into my ubuntu
[17:51] <goruka> both unrelated,but avoiding me to log in
[17:51] <fosa> sebsebseb, im not sure if im using grub2 or not.. i'm dual booting windows
[17:51] <Nameless_au> awesome is the word...
[17:51] <sebsebseb> fosa: your on 8.10 meaning you have Grub legacy   or if you like Grub 1
[17:51] <Nameless_au> sebsebseb: tnx 4 the info
[17:51] <ae1> \help
[17:51] <gmendoza> goruka: know how to solve it?
[17:51] <inManix> yo sebsebseb, could ya hit me with a PM to get the chat box up, cant do it on web irc lol
[17:51] <sebsebseb> Nameless_au: it's the default file ssytem for clean install of 9.10
[17:51] <sebsebseb> inManix: uh?
[17:52] <Nameless_au> sebsebseb: i'm still on 9.04, so i wouldn't know :/
[17:52] <inManix> trying to open private chat with you
[17:52] <kyle6513> How do I find out the max colour depth my GFX card supports? is 32bit pretty mainstream at the moment?
[17:52] <inManix> but im on the most primative browser ever
[17:52] <sebsebseb> !pm
[17:52] <inManix> im on ubuntu boot cd
[17:52] <inManix> !pm sebsebseb
[17:52] <inManix> fail
[17:52] <devede> hi
[17:52] <Clint_> how do i check if my graphics driver is install correctly on my laptop
[17:52] <inManix> !pm
[17:52] <pif> how do I enable auto login (no password)?
[17:52] <goruka> gmendoza, i don't know.. it's more like 3 bugs ..  networking is super slow on ubuntu (first bug) , so i can't ssh to the machine, and nvidia driver is not loaded on startup (second bug) so X crashes (third bug)
[17:52] <sebsebseb> Clint_: system > administration > hardware drivers ?
[17:53] <kyle6513> inManix, basically, he is telling you to talk in the channel instead of personal message him
[17:53] <Nameless_au> inManix: dont knock the boot cd, it got me out of trouble today :P
[17:53] <sebsebseb> pif: a lot of us woudn't recommend that, for security reasons
[17:53] <inManix> fair enough
[17:53] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, I think it has done alot for all of us, considering its the only way to install ubuntu mostly ;P
[17:53] <sebsebseb> pif: not on Ubuntu right now, but if you look around your menu, you will find the thing that can enable it,  or you probably will anyway.   menu as in  system  and then administaration or preferences
[17:53] <trism> pif: System/Administration/Login Screen
[17:54] <inManix> well i decided to keep my shared media on an external hardrive, and to format as follows: xp 100gb xp, 50gb ubuntu, 90 gb home, rest swap
[17:54] <inManix> does that work for best spendage of 250 gb?
[17:54] <pif> ok, but now it asks a root password
[17:54] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: and the way i got grub working again after installing windows 7 :P
[17:54] <Clint_> i just tried it and its emtpy is tht good
[17:54] <sebsebseb> inManix: even 50GB is  well  rather much for  a Ubuntu / when there's a big seperate home
[17:54] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, Grub2 has been the reason for my nightmares as of late, but, I like the new ability to graphically enhance it ;D
[17:55] <inManix> yeah, well i want a good ubuntu experience, want it as my main OS for work/media/light gaming
[17:55] <amikrop> Hello, what is the best choice for online backup? Maybe something like a version control system?
[17:55] <inManix> xp for everything linux wont run + gaming
[17:55] <eshat> Hi all, i have an alsa problem, when connecting a webcam (with mic) at boot time the intern sound card gets second device, i.e. /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp. Is there a way to switch the order ?
[17:55] <inManix> so how would you best use that space?
[17:55] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: i see - i'm still using grub 1.5 - thanks for the tip tho (mental note to self: stay with 9.04 :P )
[17:55] <kyle6513> inManix, TBH if you are a gaming xp is your best option
[17:55] <sebsebseb> inManix: there are some pretty good native games for Desktop Linux as well :)  plus can get a lot of stuff working quite nicely in Wine, and quite a bit will just work nicely these days
[17:56] <inManix> yeah i know, my gaming demands are high, but i play older games
[17:56] <inManix> im not trying to run cod2 or crysis
[17:56] <inManix> mainly source games and older
[17:56] <quarkup> inManix: try savage2
[17:56] <quarkup> its a fps+rts+mmo game
[17:56] <quarkup> great
[17:56] <sebsebseb> inManix: well older games have more of a chance at working  rather properly in Wine these days, it seems
[17:56] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, Its not SO bad, its just to edit grub theres 5 other files and they have to be compiled as of sorts, its a bit more confusing, but so much better
[17:56] <sebsebseb> !games | inManix
[17:56] <goruka> inManix, get a 360
[17:56] <quarkup> oh its a newer game not a older but its great
[17:56] <r3za>  hi , im using ubuntu karmic and grub 1.5 , now i want to repair gurb with karmic live disk , how can i do that ?
[17:56] <inManix> so what is a decent size for ubuntu partition?
[17:57] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I had half life 2 game running in wine :) just at 12 fps T.T
[17:57] <trism> pif: it shouldn't ever ask you for a root password, it is probably asking for your password to confirm that you should autologin
[17:57] <Nameless_au> a bit off-topic, but is it better to use wine or play a game in a windows VM?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: 10GB
[17:57] <inManix> ill just spend the rest between home and xp
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: as long as you got big seperate /home
[17:57] <inManix> oh yes i will
[17:57] <goruka> guys, ubuntu doesn't work - help
[17:57] <quarkup> inManix: 16G  is recommended and also use symlinks for the musik folder, image folder etc..
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: give it  a little bit more than 10GB if you want, but you will probably find it  doesn't get any where near filling up
[17:57] <quarkup> so you won't need more space to see your images in another partitions
[17:57] <gmendoza> ya know... EA just started releasing a number of games including Need For Speed Undreground for my Palm Pre... which is Linux based.  I'm hoping their efforts could extend to the rest of the Linux platforms one day.  :-)
[17:58] <r3za>  hi , im using ubuntu karmic and grub 1.5 , now i want to repair gurb with karmic live disk , how can i do that ?
[17:58] <kyle6513> gmendoza, really?
[17:58] <luna> ola
[17:58] <gmendoza> yup..
[17:58] <sebsebseb> guntbert: inManix  16GB for a /  when there's a seperate home, nah that's to much
[17:58] <luna> ola
[17:58] <kyle6513> gmendoza, ;D
[17:58] <sebsebseb> !es | luna
[17:58] <luna> hello
[17:58] <quarkup> to create a symlink its just "ln -s <original_folder> shortcut" read the manpages: man ln
[17:58] <inManix> so for a good solid installation with plenty of room
[17:58] <inManix> 12gb?
[17:58] <goruka> ubottu, gracias
[17:58] <sebsebseb> inManix: 12GB / is fine yes
[17:58] <luna> srf
[17:58] <inManix> awesome
[17:58] <sebsebseb> inManix: big seperate /home yep
[17:59] <inManix> one noob question....the values in partition programs
[17:59] <sebsebseb> inManix: and a bit of swap space
[17:59] <inManix> why do they lie
[17:59] <gmendoza> goruka: what version are you running?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> inManix: the partition sizes are done in mb
[17:59] <luna> in spansh please
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, gaming in a VM is close to impossible (terrible performance) - wine is the way to go
[18:00] <fosa> thanks sebsebseb :)
[18:00] <luna> in spanish please
[18:00] <asdshdskjauehjz> hello guys if i start my iptables script i get this"iptables v1.4.2: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/xtables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" can somebody help me pleas
[18:00] <Nameless_au> ZykoticK9: ok, just that every time i've tried to use wine i could never get it working... i was just wondering
[18:00] <luna> no te entiendo
[18:00] <sipior> !es > luna
[18:01] <yucatan> somebody..
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, you might want to try play-on-linux - just a front end for installing/running wine apps (also verify on the wine app db the game/program you are trying)
[18:01] <gmendoza> asdshdskjauehjz: where did you get the script?
[18:01] <inManix> you say 10,000, it sais 9950
[18:01] <inManix> the values are never right, and 15 gig goes missing straight after format
[18:02] <sebsebseb> inManix: oh right that
[18:02] <goruka> gmendoza, networking is unusable, and nvidia driver doesn't load by default (modprobe works, but it wont load it by default)
[18:02] <Nameless_au> ZykoticK9: cool, i'll try out your suggestion (not that i really need to - i have a multiboot system)
[18:02] <Nameless_au> i was just trying it out for the sake of it one day
[18:02] <goruka> gmendoza, which means i can't log in to my computer locally or remotelly
[18:02] <sebsebseb> inManix: so you could have a 250GB hard disk, but a partition program  might say you got like 230GB
[18:02] <sipior> inManix: if you're using an ext filesystem, check out the -m switch to tune2fs to set the reserved blocks percentage to 0.
[18:03] <sebsebseb> sipior: what's that?
[18:03] <inManix> right well im gparting now
[18:03] <gmendoza> goruka: Do you have access to the computer right now?
[18:03] <sipior> sebsebseb: by default (historically), 5% of a filesystem was reserved for the root user only.
[18:03] <inManix> i want a primary ext4 12gb for ubuntu?
[18:04] <sipior> sebsebseb: with modern filesystem sizes, this is obviously no longer appropriate :-)
[18:04] <Nameless_au> sipior: ok, then why does it also give a false value in a windows OS?
[18:04] <Nameless_au> same reason?
[18:04] <sipior> Nameless_au: which false value?
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, 1 does not equal 1 when you are talking about size in HD or memory
[18:04] <sebsebseb> inManix: yes go with Ext4,  oh and good idea to backup any important data from your hard disk, whatever file system you use, hard disks can go wrong  and sometimes file systems as well
[18:04] <luna> hello
[18:04] <Nameless_au> sipior: well if i have a 10Gb partition, windows will say it's smaller than that
[18:04] <sipior> Nameless_au: probably because there are two definitions of "Gigabyte" (2^30 bytes, and 10^9 bytes)
[18:04] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: it's not a false value, it's just a different way of counting
[18:05] <inManix> sebsebseb: im just running a fresh install of xp
[18:05] <inManix> nothing else has happened
[18:05] <pif> I disables all the lock_ keys from /apps/gnome-power-manager yet I still have a password prompt on resume...
[18:05] <inManix> :)
[18:05] <Nameless_au> ah gotcha
[18:05] <goruka> gmendoza, i can't shell because networking is for a strange reason incredibly slow after the latest update
[18:05] <inManix> so i want primary instead of extended?
[18:05] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: Hard drive makers use SI units (makes HD sizes look larger) and most OSes report the size using conventional power-of-two units
[18:05] <goruka> gmendoza, and nvidia driver module works but does't load on startup, so X crashes
[18:05] <quarkup> hey is picasa open-source ?
[18:05] <Nameless_au> 2^30 would be more appropriate would it not (since we're dealing with binary)?
[18:06] <goruka> gmendoza, maybe i can enter in some sort of safe (nondisplay) mode?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> quarkup: no it's not
[18:06] <quarkup> :s
[18:06] <Slart> quarkup: I don't think so
[18:06] <quarkup> :'(
[18:06] <sipior> Nameless_au: yes, but the "giga" prefix has a certain implication.
[18:06] <quarkup> should be easy to port it to linux :s
[18:06] <quarkup> anyway
[18:06] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: the power-of-two units should be called  "MiB" "GiB" etc.
[18:06] <yucatan> hello guys if i start my iptables script i get this"iptables v1.4.2: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/xtables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" can somebody help me pleas
[18:06] <sebsebseb> quarkup: there already is a version, however it needs their special version of Wine, if I remember correctly
[18:06] <kyle6513> anyone who can help me in getting a custom resolution to display?
[18:06] <Gadget3000> quarkup: picasa is available for linux already
[18:07] <gmendoza> goruka: I'm going to PM you if you dont mind... better to keep track...
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> quarkup, although picasa is not opensource, there is already a linux version (it uses wine)
[18:07] <goruka> gmendoza, sure
[18:07] <Gadget3000> quarkup: http://picasa.google.co.uk/linux/
[18:07] <inManix> what is the difference between a primary and an extended partition?
[18:07] <quarkup> hey
[18:07] <Nameless_au> Chousuke: how would that be read out aloud? still 'megabyte', 'gigabyte'...?
[18:07] <quarkup> it is not linux native. it has not been ported to linux
[18:07] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: Binary megabyte I guess
[18:07] <quarkup> just has the wine bundled xD
[18:07] <sebsebseb> inManix: an extended will hold other partitions inside it,  you need that if you got  I think it's more than four partitions
[18:08] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: but most people would just say megabyte :P
[18:08] <quarkup> i was talking about the port
[18:08] <quarkup>  :D
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> inManix, most BIOSs can only recognize 4 primary partitions, so extended partitions are used to get past the 4 partition limit
[18:08] <antonio_> hello everybody! does anyone know where do i have to put a script in order to make it run on every startup^
[18:08] <inManix> primary it is then
[18:08] <antonio_> ?
[18:08] <Chousuke> inManix: primary/logical makes no difference to Linux, really.
[18:08] <Nameless_au> Chousuke: i've seen MiB in text before, thought it was either a typo or some weird european convention lol... thanks !
[18:08] <sipior> Nameless_au: technically, "mebibyte" and "gibibyte", i believe. i think there's a reason they haven't caught on wildly...
[18:08] <inManix> sebsebseb: so which partitions do i need made prior to installation? im doing 100gig xp NTFS, 100gig for /home ext4, 12gig ext4 for ubuntu
[18:08] <inManix> do i need to make swap partition now?
[18:09] <Nameless_au> sipior:  now that is interesting!
[18:09] <kyle6513> sipior, i always thought it meant gigabit then i learnt there was a difference between Gb and GB
[18:09] <Chousuke> inManix: You can make a swap partition but if you forget it you can always use a swap file.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> inManix: is SWAP needed or not is one question, another is how big should it be.   it depends on RAM, and if people want to hibernate and such
[18:10] <inManix> well im on 2gig ram and looking to do 'some' gaming
[18:10] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: i doubt most ppl know there is a difference b/n Gb and GB
[18:10] <inManix> some people say none, some say 4gig...
[18:10] <sebsebseb> inManix: 4GB SWAP partition, but you probably don't really need it
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: are you ever going to hibernate the system?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> inManix: unless your going to hibernate of course
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: if not, make it half a GB :P
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: you can always extend it later
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: by adding swap files
[18:10] <inManix> i dont like how 'to hibernate or not to hibernate' is such a decision
[18:10] <inManix> its scary
[18:10] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, yeah >.< but one is just bandwidth where one is size so i guess not many would need it, but these two terms do decieve you when you go buy an internet connection
[18:11] <inManix> lets just assume im not going to hibernate
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: well, I think that's not a problem either. You should be able to hibernate to swap files
[18:11] <inManix> how much i need? 500mb is optimum?
[18:11] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: indeed
[18:11] <kyle6513> inManix, hibernate is mostly just for laptops
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: you can always add more if you run out :)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:11] <Nameless_au> so mb = millibit? :P
[18:11] <pdlnhrd> what would be  a reason packages are held back during an upgrade....  i just tried to upgrade and my xorg is broke now
[18:11] <Nameless_au> ignore that
[18:11] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, xD
[18:11] <inManix> sure, 500 partition being made lol
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: though if you go and fill half a gigabyte of swap on a desktop... you need to buy more RAM
[18:12] <kyle6513> pdlnhrd, T.T
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> pdlnhrd: the package is made but the deps it needs are not satisfiable yet
[18:12] <rek> ActionParsnip: i'm not able to fix some problems ..i'll change distribution so...are there any config file i can save? mail... msn ecc ?
[18:12] <Chousuke> inManix: because if you really are actively swapping to that half a gigabyte, performance will be horrible.
[18:12] <tuv0k> anyone else notice using a laptop after resume with a ath5k driver for atheros card you have no connection using wicd, and network-manager can't keep a connection for more than 1miunte, which is why I'm using wicd to begin with?
[18:13] <pdlnhrd> ActionParsnip: is there a way to rescue my xserver ?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rek: most are the hidden folders in $HOME but some files in /etc are useful
[18:13] <rek> ActionParsnip: i know... like?
[18:13] <Chousuke> inManix: on modern systems with gigabytes of RAM, swap is mostly there to prevent the kernel from freaking out in case you happen to temporarily run out of memory
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> pdlhrd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    may help
[18:13] <rek> ActionParsnip:  mutt.rc then?
[18:13] <inManix> cool cool
[18:14] <inManix> so when i type in 100,000mb and it says 97.65 gib, just ignore it
[18:14] <rek> cool.. pool going to the pool is cool
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> rek: smb.conf hosts dnsmasq.conf files like that. i dont know your system so cannot speculate
[18:14] <pdlnhrd> ActionParsnip: thank you
[18:14] <yucatan> why i cant get in #debian and #linux?
[18:14] <hiexpo> tuvok use thestandard network manager its better for those cards
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> rek: anything you think you need, grab it. you should have them backed up anyway
[18:14] <rek> ActionParsnip: i have mostly audio problems
[18:15] <kyle6513> inManix, that is if you are attempting to make a 100gb patition then yes, you see, we cannot have exactly 100gb due to the way computers work
[18:15] <NickWebHA> exit
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> rek: got an audigy sound card by any chance?
[18:16] <inManix> the final useless question
[18:16] <gharz> guys, i've installed ubuntu using wubi... having problem with grub when i restart after updating the kernel... i'm reading a post ... how do i know which /dev/sdXY  (parition) should i choose?
[18:16] <rek> ActionParsnip:  what? asus mobo
[18:16] <inManix> what do people label partitions?
[18:16] <inManix> :D
[18:16] <kyle6513> inManix, / for root, swap for swap and /home for home
[18:16] <rek> ActionParsnip: i've also problems with my nvidia gts 2 my sys crashes.... the graphic and i need to reset
[18:17] <kyle6513> inManix, atleast, thats the MOUNT point >.<
[18:17] <rek> sometimes ActionParsnip mp3s don't work or flash player doesn't work i'm sad
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> inmanix: i rarely do. if i do its what the partition stores for me but you can call it whatever you want
[18:17] <kyle6513> is it possible to make a button turn the backlight off on my laptops screen, like in windows? at the moment it just turns all colours off
[18:17] <Nameless_au> im glad i didnt upgrade to 9.10
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> rek: i see
[18:18] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, why?
[18:18] <clever> kyle6513: try 'sleep 5;xset dpms force off'
[18:18] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: cos it took me long enough to get this running how i wanted and fixing/working around all the bugs
[18:18] <kyle6513> clever, how would i bind that to a key
[18:18] <gharz> whenever i try to boot... i'm getting a kernel panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block(8,1)... anyone?
[18:18] <inManix> 12gb /, 100gb /home, 500mb swap (all ext4), 125gb ntfs windows! finally
[18:18] <inManix> off i go
[18:18] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, ah i see
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> rek: try jaunty instead. its more mature
[18:19] <clever> kyle6513: make a button for it on gnome-panel and maybe bind a key to it from there
[18:19] <Nameless_au> sounds like 9.10 is very buggy
[18:19] <rek> ActionParsnip:  mature? we like teens
[18:19] <max_> lol
[18:19] <kyle6513> clever, ah okay ^-^
[18:19] <rek> lol
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> rek: its been around longer
[18:19] <CloneDeath> Hello?
[18:19] <cxo> I've got a message saying that one of my disks has too many bad sectors. I have multiple drives of the same make and model, How do i identify which one has the error?
[18:19] <max_> your resistance only makes my penis harder
[18:19] <kyle6513> clever, when i move my mouse will i get my screen back? doesnt seem to be anything there to say if i move my mouse or anything that it should start back up again
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> !hi | clonedeath
[18:20] <rek> ActionParsnip: what? in 9.10 i cant use nvidia-glx ! so i must keep hardy heron
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: moving the mouse or touching any key will wake it back up
[18:20] <CloneDeath> Same, I get like over 65K bad sectors
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> cxo: boot to livecd and fsck the disks
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: including just letting go of the mouse after you click the button
[18:20] <kyle6513> clever, is this just putting the laptop into sleep?
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: the whole system stays on, it just turns the video off
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> rek: no, you use nvidia-glx-185
[18:20] <x-frog> clear
[18:20] <kyle6513> clever, ah, exactly what i wanted, this goes in terminal no?
[18:20] <rek> ActionParsnip: what was your term.... blood ... i mean when u said about electronics
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: yep
[18:21] <kyle6513> clever, alright thanks :)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rek: bleeding edge. it was you whom mentioned electronics
[18:21] <rek> ActionParsnip: nvidia-glx-185 does not work no prop. driv in use that's why i downgraded to 8.10
[18:21] <x-frog> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10...im currently in term mode i cant start x...is there a way to load the nvidia driver from the terminal
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rek: tried the nvidia ppa? you can try the 195 driver
[18:22] <rek> ActionParsnip: yeah bleeding edge's cool but also retro computers.... i have some c64. do you?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> x-frog: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[18:22] <rek> ActionParsnip:  what's ppa
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> rek: c64 is offtopic here
[18:22] <rek> dunno
[18:22] <Matisse> hi
[18:22] <x-frog> ty ty..ill try that
[18:22] <rek> c64 is cool here
[18:22] <x-frog> exit
[18:23] <phobos_> hi all
[18:23] <Nameless_au> c64 is NEVER off-topic!
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> rek: not on this channel
[18:23] <Nameless_au> lol
[18:23] <rek> lol, it's a little OT
[18:23] <JDahl> I configured dual monitors in twinview with nvidia-settings and I saved the configuration to /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  but everytime I reboot, only one monitor is active and I have to run nvidia-settings.  How can I avoid that?
[18:23] <rek> ActionParsnip: guntbrt would get angry isn't it?
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> JDahl, are you running "gksu nvidia-settings" and are you sure you aren't getting an error when you save?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> rek: i'm keeping chat to the channel guidelines
[18:24] <rek> ActionParsnip: sometimes my mp3 don't work and the flsh doesn't work too what can i do?
[18:24] <phobos_> plz which is the port for no-ip because i have modify my firewall and i doesn't work (sorry for my bad english)
[18:25] <JDahl> ZykoticK9, I run sudo nvidia-settings,  I don't get any errors,  and I even removed the old xorg.conf to make sure that only a completely fresh version is installed.
[18:25] <phobos_> he*
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> rek: reinstall the flash plugin and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <m0ar> I want to add 'irssi -! -c im.bitlbee.org' to autostart, but how to format that for Startup Applications?
[18:25] <azo> Re
[18:25] <Umbongiovanni> Hi
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> jdahl: sudo is not for gui apps
[18:25] <Umbongiovanni> Need some help
[18:25] <sebsebseb> !ask | Umbongiovanni
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !ask | umbongolovanni
[18:26] <kyle6513> clever, how would I assign a hotkey?
[18:26] <clever> kyle6513: not sure
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[18:26] <kyle6513> clever, okay
[18:26] <Umbongiovanni> I'm doing a backup of my hardy heron, I formated the hard drive disk.
[18:26] <clever> kyle6513: try the link ActionParsnip just brought up
[18:27] <kyle6513> clever, will do
[18:27] <Umbongiovanni> I want to know if I can use the same home of hardy in a jaunty distribution
[18:27] <inManix> Hey guys, one quick question, iv made the 12gig ext4 partition with gparted, iv chosen it about to install to it, does it need to be formatted?
[18:27] <rek> ActionParsnip: why does the automount work only with gnome?
[18:27] <Plouj> hi
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> umbongiovanni: sure you can
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> rek: no idea. i dont use it
[18:27] <sebsebseb> inManix: well it's a new partition, a blank one,  but sure you can do the tick on format
[18:27] <rek> ActionParsnip: is i sptitude get kde   what will i get 4 ?
[18:28] <Slart> Umbongiovanni: that might depend on the apps you have installed.. I'm not sure if Gnome has updated it's config files between the versions.. things might end up being weird
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: config problems? where?
[18:28] <Plouj> is there an automatic random wallpaper changer in the Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS repositories?
[18:28] <inManix> sebsebseb: if it would let me..
[18:28] <rek> ciao giovanni
[18:28] <jiohdi> inManix: if its ext4 then it is already formatted
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: well yes, but you might want to do your home in Ext4 since that's the default file system  for 9.10. which also means you might want to put 9.10 on instead of 9.04
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rek: that wasnt english
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: are you like guntbert
[18:28] <Umbongiovanni> ciao rek
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: 9.04 is optional in 9.04 just not properly stable since the kernel and such
[18:28] <Slart> Plouj: some people use "feh" to change wallpapers .. in cron, I think
[18:28] <inManix> well i did it all with gparted, resized my initial hard drive, set to ext4, rebooted
[18:28] <sebsebseb> uh that was meant to be Ext4 is optional in 9.04....
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rek: in what way?
[18:28] <inManix> it wont let me tick format so ill just go ahead
[18:28] <JDahl> ok, I just ran "gksu nvidia-settings", applied the changes and saved, and checked that the time-stamp on xorg.conf had changed.   In my xorg.conf file, there is only one monitor specified, is that correct?
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: rules lol ;-)
[18:28] <inManix> just it sais 320mb is in use
[18:28] <phobos_> plz which is the port of no-ip (DNS application)  because i have modify my firewall and now it doesn't work..
[18:29] <karma_police> i just installed  and did the update but i am not sure it it loaded grub2 or not.. is there a way to check? also is there a way to update to grub2 or is reinstall required?
[18:29] <Umbongiovanni> sebsebseb what would you reccomend?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> rek: i keep to the guidelines, so in that repect yes
[18:29] <clever> phobos_: modify the firewall to log everything it blocks
[18:29] <jiohdi> inmanix, ext4 is a type of formatting, if it worked, then its formattered
[18:29] <rek> do u like gnome?
[18:29] <Slart> phobos_: isn't that an outgoing connection?
[18:29] <clever> Slart: iptables can block outgoing also
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: you can reinstall grub2 from livecd if it is not installed
[18:29] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: I like 9.04 overall more than 9.10, but there are reasons why it could be a good idea to put 9.10 on now rather than 9.04
[18:30] <Slart> clever: true...
[18:30] <rek> ActionParsnip:  i don't remember how can i connect to my net in terminal mode?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rek: its ok. a little slow
[18:30] <Umbongiovanni> ok
[18:30] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: basically since that will make upgrading to the April release easier, and getting all of it's features
[18:30] <inManix> error no root file system is defined O.o
[18:30] <karma_police> i think the loader says 1.97
[18:30] <Umbongiovanni> got it
[18:30] <karma_police> i am dualbooting with win7
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rek: dhclient interfacenamehere ususally works
[18:30] <noXandOs> omg this is taking forever
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: thats grub2 then
[18:31] <karma_police> i know it had a grub2 beta in the repo so i didn't know
[18:31] <clever> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_2.0.0.16+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[18:31] <clever> i'm having trouble getting firefox to install
[18:31] <Migs> apt-get install firefox
[18:31] <clever> Migs: i did
[18:31] <kyle6513> how do i stop my XF86ScreenSaver Key from locking the screen?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> karma_police: you just upgraded 9.04 to 9.10?
[18:31] <clever> Migs: thats how i got the error
[18:32] <inManix> sebsebseb: im choosing my ext4 12gb partition to install to, its saying error no root file system is defined
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: well yeah
[18:32] <kyle6513> clever, internet all working and such?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: your in manual install or?
[18:32] <inManix> yeah, choosing manual partition
[18:32] <inManix> otherwise it was gonna wipe everything
[18:32] <clever> kyle6513: yeah, i'm ssh'd into it already
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: ok you need to tell it to use that one as / and do the Ext4 yeah
[18:32] <clever> kyle6513: and 404 only happens if you can connect to the server
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: and the other similar, but with /home instead
[18:32]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[18:32] <jada> in adwance, thx for helping me, i get disconneted when using torrentclient
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: plus you want your swap space
[18:32] <karma_police> i fresh installed 9.10 when i did the update manager it asked what version of grub to install.. i selected package maintainer's... it is using 1.97 tho..
[18:32] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <inManix> how so?
[18:33] <kyle6513> clever, odd...
[18:33] <inManix> iv made them all ext4 and labelled them so (/, /home, swap)
[18:33] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[18:33] <Matisse> When running  configure  in dfarc-source I got some warnings and no make-file. I installed some packages. Now I get no related errors, but still no make-file. Can somebody help me?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/359665/
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <inManix> do i have to format them so in gparted? like 'set as'
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: odd
[18:33] <karma_police> !grub
[18:33] <Od> hola
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: if it's a clean install it should have put on  beta4
[18:33] <rek> hi i'm sad
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: ors omething like that
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <kyle6513> inManix, there should be a place called mount point, not label
[18:33] <alamati> Hi all,
[18:33] <clever> kyle6513: i'm thinking that gutsy is no longer maintained
[18:34] <karma_police> is there a way to upgrade it to the latest? or do i need to do a reinstall and try again?
[18:34] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:34] <clever> kyle6513: so these old versions dont exist anymore
[18:34] <kyle6513> clever, maybe just a little...
[18:34] <inManix> i see 'format to'
[18:34] <Od> I have sound problems too..
[18:34] <clever> !upgrade
[18:34] <kyle6513> inManix, try double clicking the partitions
[18:34] <rek> Od: LIKE?
[18:34] <Slart> phobos_: what client are you using to update your ip on the noip servers?
[18:34] <kaffien> if i want to set my networking prefrences from the console how would i do that in ubuntu?
[18:34] <sebsebseb> karma_police: when I did it the other day put  karmic on the other computer,  I ended up going with the locally installed version,  altough I would have normalley done package maintainers
[18:34] <alamati> I install simple-ccsm few days ago and then keyboard shortcut for Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 don't work, what's the problem? help me please
[18:34] <inManix> kyle6513: i see mount too, but its greyed out
[18:34] <Umbongiovanni> Sorry
[18:35] <Od> System don't detect any sound card y "hardware"
[18:35] <sebsebseb> karma_police: well that was after upgrades I got the option to change Grub or not
[18:35] <kyle6513> inManix, it will be in the swap partition, because it needs no mount position
[18:35] <rek> Umbongiovanni: ma anche a te l'audio va da cuolo a volte va a volte si
[18:35] <Od> in*
[18:35] <Umbongiovanni> Wich ubuntu is recomended for a ﻿core 2 duo, E4500 de 2.2 ghz Micro
[18:35] <karma_police> everything works good.. i just want to be ready for 10.04 upgrade
[18:35] <kyle6513> inManix, though, for the home it will be /home and root it will be /
[18:35] <karma_police> sebsebseb .. i did the same thing
[18:35] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: most would say 9.10 at the moment, but depends on if your a business or not etc
[18:35] <Umbongiovanni> rek je parle tout moins le italien, porque solo tengo el apellido
[18:35] <karma_police> cept i chose maintainers thinking it would be the grub2
[18:35] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:36] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | Matr|x
[18:36] <phobos_> Slart: nothing , i have just installed  "noip2" with sudo apt-get....  and enter the information .... but now my firewall block it and i don't know why
[18:36] <rek> Umbongiovanni: italiano no spagnolo
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> non business sebsebseb
[18:36] <kyle6513> Umbongiovanni, I have a core 2 duo E7300 i think it is and it works fine
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> hahaha
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: put 9.10 on I guess, and if you get problems with that try 9.04
[18:36] <jada> I run ubuntu 9.10, and when downloading torrent file i loose internet connection, both in vuze and transmission bittorrent client. I have set bandwitch speed to half of what i have
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> Wok
[18:36] <inManix> kyle6513: im a little lost, iv created the partitions as ext4 in gparted, i understand i have to set them to what they are going to be
[18:36] <Caesi> Hullo, could somebody please tell me what lines to put in menu.lst to be able to boot my Windows partition? (It's the first partition on the only hard drive)
[18:36] <inManix> kyle6513: where do i do that? gparted or installer?
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> ﻿ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent this is ok?
[18:36] <phong_> hi
[18:36] <uniquebox> Hi - I had my password written done and can't find it - Can someone tell me how to reset my password ? ?
[18:36] <phobos_> Slart: I have open my port 53 (for DNS in general) but.....
[18:36] <alamati> why when install simple-ccsm the Alt+F1 don't work?
[18:36] <clever> jada: number of connections also has to be limited
[18:36] <sebsebseb> inManix:  in manual install you tell them what to use them as, not in gparted
[18:37] <sebsebseb> inManix: tell them well tell it
[18:37] <karma_police> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <kyle6513> inManix, in gparted of course, the swap partition is not formatted to ext4 right?
[18:37] <jada> okei, u mean torrent files or
[18:37] <phong_> how are you all doing ?
[18:37] <kyle6513> phong_, good yourself
[18:37] <inManix> kyle6513: i did not choose format to no, i made unallocated space and set it as ext4, performed operations and restarted
[18:37] <sebsebseb> phong_: hi
[18:37] <Slart> phobos_: from their site it seems that updating the ip is done by using a plain old HTTP GET
[18:38] <Slart> phobos_: so it should behave like regular web traffic
[18:38] <Umbongiovanni> is it ok an ﻿ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  for a ﻿core 2 duo E7300?
[18:38] <kyle6513> inManix, restarted your computer? O.o
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: you can make  all three in gparted first or do it all in manual
[18:38] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: if you have a 64bit proccessor yes
[18:38] <inManix> sebsebseb: sure, so i select use as and select ex4 journal for all and swap for swap?
[18:38] <Slart> phobos_: http://www.no-ip.com/integrate/request/
[18:38] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I believe the core 2 duo is 64bit, as mine is...
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: for swap well you make it into a  linux swap
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: the other two Ext4
[18:38]  * kyle6513 has never used a 64 bit operating system
[18:39] <Slart> kyle6513: it's like 32bit.. but with more leg room =)
[18:39] <inManix> so ext4 journal filing system for / and /home, swap area for swap
[18:39] <inManix> gotcha
[18:39] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: well they aren't a big deal at all, unless something is doing something that takes up  a lot of resources or something
[18:39] <phobos_> Slart: ty i go see that
[18:39] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: someone not something above
[18:39] <kyle6513> Slart, haha, yeah, manages processes better right?
[18:39] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so, better for gaming and such or?
[18:39] <sebsebseb> inManix: Ext4  journerling file system for / and /home  and Linux swap for the swap
[18:40] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: for some games I guess so
[18:40] <inManix> sebsebseb: sais 'swap area' for swap, and im not mounting it anywhere right?
[18:40] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so more for like, rendering and such? cpu intensive types of things?
[18:40] <Slart> kyle6513: ehm.. not that I've noticed.. from a blurry eyed user point-of-view it's the same as 32bit.. but you can use more memory..they say it's a little faster with some stuff as well
[18:40] <KaZeR> ++
[18:40] <kyle6513> inManix, that is correct
[18:40] <jada> what is number of connection, a) torrents file downloading or b) maximum peers per torrent? Loose internet connection after a few minutes when downloading torrentfile
[18:40] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: yes more for   stuff that uses a lot of CPU  power  and such
[18:41] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: power? well that needs to use a lot of CPU yeah
[18:41] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I see
[18:41] <Roasted> does anybody know why brasero doesnt burn CDs, but k3b does? brasero just hung at preparing forEVER on 2 blank CDs. But on k3b, it burns fine. Ubuntu 9.10. Any ideas?
[18:42] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so, its better to be using 64, just in case? since all of the linux software is compatible with 64 and 32 bit?
[18:42] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: games this that and the other,  Windows 7  this and that,  a bit of Google Chrome this and that as well,   that's what this channel is like these days :D   anyway
[18:42] <sebsebseb> !games | kyle6513
[18:42] <Matisse> Configure says "Error: you need to install the libbz2 library (for compression)" - how do I tell configure the correct path? (the package is installed)
[18:42] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, haha yeah :)
[18:43] <kanzie> how can I get the gateway-IP on my machine
[18:43] <kanzie> ifconfig -a gave me broadcast-addr. is this the same?
[18:43] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: and then sadly on top of that the useual issues,  Adobe Flash,  pulseaudio, ATI,  and some Grub 2 issues now
[18:43] <Slart> kanzie: broadcast address is something else.. check the routing tables
[18:43] <clever> kanzie: run 'ip route'
[18:44] <azo> re
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I think thats the most of the reason linux isnt a leader in distributions, the fact that 1 support is done through things like irc(and most casual people have NO idea xD) and they say the best things in life are free, and its true, I've been able to customize my linux desktop better than i did windows in about 10 minutes of my time
[18:44] <clever> kanzie: its the default one, on the 'via' line
[18:44] <Slart> kanzie: if you're looking for the external ip on your network there is sites like http://whatismyip.com
[18:44] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:44] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: well some people are working on a proper manual aimed at beginners for the next one, it will be a free PDF download.  anyway we just went off topic
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, hey, even windows has issues, only problem is windows has adobe's and all hardware manufactures support, sadly...
[18:44] <benpro> hi all
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, we did >.<
[18:45] <kyle6513> Matr|x, are the speakers plugged in? :P
[18:45] <Matr|x> yes
[18:45] <Migs> I still haven't figured out this Mindtouch repo problem.  It's like it's not organized properly: http://repo.mindtouch.com/xUbuntu_9.10/     These instructions here tell me to add what's apparently a malformed line to sources.list: http://developer.mindtouch.com/Official_MindTouch_Installation_Guides/Ubuntu_8.04_MindTouch_Deki_Community_Edition_Package_Installation
[18:45] <Matr|x> in windows xp sound very cool
[18:45] <jada> anybody who knows how to configure torrent client so i dont loose internet connection, this never happend under xp or vista
[18:45] <Migs> that's for an older Ubuntu version, though...
[18:46] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: and well yeah at the manufacture thing, and it's not just hardware support, it's  popular commercial software support
[18:46] <frandieguez> hi to all, I'm trying to setup unattended-upgrades to upgrade custom repositories like personal repository or similar. I have searched on internet an readed some manfiles but I can't find anyting.
[18:46] <SciRuoWa> my friend and i were trying to install a driver for my wireless card, and used an instamagick installer thing, but my linux partition now refuses to boot, and goes into kernel panic if i try to. any ideas as to what went wrong, by any chance?
[18:46] <kyle6513> Matr|x, right click on the speaker, go preferences, go to the output tab, and make sure that analog output is selected in the drop down
[18:46] <Slart> SciRuoWa: well.. your wi-fi driver seems to be a very probable culprit.. tried uninstalling it?
[18:47] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, Its just nice to know that people like you, and many others take time out of their day to help users without getting paid(atleast i think you arent) whereas the microsoft support get paid, and they treat you like rubbish and are of no help!
[18:47] <TecoMestre> I can not change the cursor theme for Ubuntu, can someone help me?
[18:47] <kyle6513> TecoMestre, I have that very same problem i believe
[18:47] <afeijo> hello guys
[18:48] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: yep loads of us who help in here that don't get paid for it
[18:48] <Slart> SciRuoWa: I'm not really sure here.. but you could try booting from a live cd (the regular ubuntu install cd is a live cd) and then try removing the compiled kernel module.. I think that will just give you an error message but a working kernel
[18:48] <vikasap> The Preferences->Display shows "Unkown Monitor". So I cant switch on the dual display. Any ideas ?
[18:48] <Roasted> does anybody know why brasero doesnt burn CDs, but k3b does? brasero just hung at preparing forEVER on 2 blank CDs. But on k3b, it burns fine. Ubuntu 9.10. Any ideas?
[18:48] <afeijo> I'm recieveing an cron email every 10 minutes, with 3 lines. The first line is 'PHP Warning:  Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0'. How can I fix it?
[18:48]  * inManix hi5's sebsebseb
[18:48] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, :D
[18:48] <SciRuoWa> thanks, slart!
[18:48] <Slart> SciRuoWa: you're welcome
[18:48] <Matr|x> evry thing is good
[18:48] <Matr|x> but no sound
[18:49] <phong_> clear
[18:49] <hiexpo> right click on dexktop click change dexktop background than click theme than customize than pointers select the one you want you have to reboot for it to take place
[18:49] <nibbler> afeijo: check your cronjobs, who is the user sending these?
[18:49] <jada> looks like its to many users for the few ops
[18:49] <inManix> its funny that people like sebsebseb can be so generous...yet my girlfriend just had an engineer come out from dell to fix her laptop which broke half way through 3 weeks of exams. they replaced the hard-drive, reinstalled vista and left without installing any drivers
[18:49] <Migs> loz
[18:49] <Migs> *lolz
[18:49] <Anusien> So I was dist-upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 and that succeeded, so I went ahead and jumped to 9.10. Only my VNC session hung, if I try to connect with ssh it just sits there connecting before it even asks for a username.
[18:49] <afeijo> I'm recieveing an cron email every 10 minutes, with 3 lines. The first line is 'PHP Warning:  Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0'. How can I fix it?
[18:49] <Anusien> I hear it still working though. Any suggestions?
[18:49] <inManix> she can't connect to the internet, she can't even open a movie, she can't do jack. i have to go sort it out lol
[18:49] <kyle6513> inManix, LOL
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/359342/
[18:50] <nibbler> afeijo: instead of spamming the channel rather read what is said to you....
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> karmic.
[18:50] <kyle6513> inManix, did you get to keep the new harddrive?
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> anyone?
[18:50] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:50] <inManix> rofl
[18:50] <Slart> afeijo: check your crontab  (crontab -l).. see what program is running every third minute.. when you know that we can continue troubleshooting
[18:50] <sebsebseb> inManix: what's sad is that there are people like me, who will help loads of people online with computer,  but that also don't  have IT support jobs,  but I don't want to work with Windows much, that's one of the reasons
[18:50] <protojay> !repeat
[18:51] <Slart> afeijo: which is basically what nibbler told you a minute ago..
[18:51] <hiexpo> matr]x have you done all the updates sudo apt-get update than update manager first
[18:51] <Matr|x> nop
[18:51] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, and you do it over the internet, they were there in person.
[18:51] <Matr|x> i still downloading media upntu
[18:52] <freku> maybe he didnt plug in the soundconnector
[18:52] <freku> :)
[18:52] <CAPcap> wheres a good place to find more stations for Internet radio that i can play from rhythmbox?
[18:52] <kyle6513> freku, no, already asked that ;P
[18:52] <Matr|x> nop
[18:52] <hiexpo> do them first that will probally solve your probs
[18:52] <Matr|x> evry thing is alright but i think its somthing block tthe  sound
[18:52] <virgile> ouch, land of some damage => [ ]
[18:52] <Anusien> What happens if the machine restarts during a dist-upgrade?
[18:52] <kyle6513> CAPcap, I want some australian radio stations :P
[18:52] <freku> does sound work with live-cd
[18:53] <kyle6513> Anusien, VERY bad things
[18:53] <Slart> Anusien: hopefully you restart and continue your upgrade
[18:53] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it might be messed up or  you can just start it again, in fact  there's a way to re start  an upgrade if it goes wrong, but I don't know how
[18:53] <hiexpo> do sudo apt-get update that will take some time than go to update manager do that than go back and do sudp apt-get upgrade
[18:53] <Slart> Anusien: if you haven't made the proper sacrifices lately... well.. then things can get ugly =)
[18:53] <Anusien> My machine literally won't respond to anything. I see no display on my LCD, I can't get in with VNC or ssh
[18:53] <kyle6513> oh dear..
[18:54] <Slart> Anusien: try booting with a live cd
[18:54] <Anusien> I hear it working, but it's been running this upgrade for like 12 hours, and it's possible it's waiting on some result
[18:54] <hiexpo> freku yes usually
[18:56] <jellow_> Anusien: have you tried Ctl - alt and F1 , To get to console?
[18:57] <kenyabob> Is it possible to duplicate a hard drive over the network to another drive via samba?
[18:58] <jellow_> kenyabob: Never done it before but you could use netcat and pipe it through samba
[18:58] <Slart> kenyabob: I don't think samba offers that kind of info..  you can duplicate the files but the disc structure might be hidden
[18:58] <Slart> kenyabob: do you really need to actually "duplicate" the disc?
[18:58] <powertoo108> kenyabob: Clonezilla can copy over the network to a samba share.
[18:58] <nibbler> kenyabob: besides i think you dont need to duplicate, you could do it with one step in between easily
[18:59] <kenyabob> Slart: I have a machine that I have configured to perfection and now I must change the machine to a new that has an scsi drive that I cannot mount to the old one
[18:59] <Slart> kenyabob: oh.. wait nevermind.. you mean make a copy of a local hard drive and place that copy on a samba server? yes.. that would work
[18:59] <nibbler> kenyabob: cat /dev/sda > /media/sambashare/target
[18:59] <Anusien> jellow_: When I turn on the TV, I get a bouncing no signal
[19:00] <Anusien> CTRL-ALT-F1 does nothing
[19:00] <RichardLynch> A fresh Ubuntu/Firefox install, and F5 does not reload a web page.  Is F5 over-ridden somehwere?  It's Gnome desktop.
[19:00] <kenyabob> Slart: so I though doing it over the network would work, though I guess I could do it with an external hard drive for both
[19:00] <Slart> RichardLynch: it works on my system.. I don't think I've done anything special to my system when it comes to shortcuts
[19:00] <nibbler> kenyabob: it is a linux system?
[19:01] <cxo> RichardLynch, check if your keyboard has a hotkey switch to get function keys working
[19:01] <kenyabob> nibbler: its ubuntu and I want to duplicate it to a blank hard drive on the other machine, essentially just migrating the data from one to the other
[19:01] <Slart> kenyabob: the image is basically just a big file.. so samba will work nicely.. or nfs or any kind of file server tech
[19:01] <RichardLynch> Oh.  Maybe that's it.  Stupid Microsoft keyboard...  The top of the button says "Open" and the vertical front of the button says F5.  Now I have to figure out how to fix this stupid keyboard...
[19:02] <nibbler> kenyabob: this is way more easy, you can copy the files, no need to touch the blockdevice (layer wise) - read "harddisk upgrade mini howto"
[19:02] <powertoo108> Anusien: You can force a safe restart with ctrl+alt+print screen + R + E + I + S + U + B, the reisub part doesn't have to be held down all at once, just one after another in that order.
[19:02] <RichardLynch> F-lock?  wft is F-lock?  I want to strangle a Microsoft hardware engineer...
[19:02] <jellow_> Anusien: Im confused is the tv using ubuntu?
[19:02] <Slart> kenyabob: I'm not sure you can do hard drive to hard drive over samba.. you might have to create an image file first..   ie remote drive-> image file -> local hard drive
[19:02] <RichardLynch> Thanks for the help!  Sorry it turned out to be faulty hardware.
[19:02] <Anusien> jellow_: The TV is my display device, yeah
[19:02] <kenyabob> so I create a disk image on the old machine
[19:03] <kenyabob> transfer it
[19:03] <kanzie> hmm, downloaded the 32-bit Ubuntu and burned on a dvd, put it in my computer and tried to boot but all I get is a prompt saying "boot: "
[19:03] <kenyabob> and then restore from the image on the new machien
[19:03] <kanzie> if I try to write anything it says "Can not find kernel image linux"
[19:03] <guntbert> !md5sum | kanzie
[19:03] <RichardLynch> Wow. Why does my nick here appear to me as "freenode"? Weird.
[19:03] <kenyabob> nibbler: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/?
[19:03] <Anusien> powertoo108: I still hear the disk spinning up and occasionally spinning down. Should I just give it some hours until it finishes?
[19:03] <Slart> kenyabob: that's what I would try
[19:03] <jada> let me put the qustion like this, is it a common problem to loose internet connection while downloading torrent files in os ubuntu
[19:04] <ZykoticK9> jada, no
[19:04] <Slart> RichardLynch: no idea why you're freenode on your system.. I see you as RichardLynch
[19:04] <powertoo108> Anusien: That command series should immediately reboot it, no waiting involved.
[19:04] <RichardLynch> Slart: Local alias in pidgin got set to freenode, for some reason beyond my ken...  Sorry about that.
[19:04] <nibbler> kenyabob: yep, this. its justabout keeping the permissions to the files etc. if you dont want trouble with bootloader just install a new ubuntu of same type to target pc, and copy over all the directories but /proc /dev/ /boot /sys
[19:04] <nucking> hey everyone, i'd like to swap eth0 with eth1 is there a quick way to do that?
[19:05] <kenyabob> nibbler: so just read through this and figure out what needs to be copied over and what to forget about
[19:05] <nibbler> kenyabob: install target pc, boot it with livedisk then, use rsync to transfer everything
[19:05] <RichardLynch> nucking: Open up the box and switch them. Anything else is probably asking for trouble.
[19:05] <jada> okei, strange that i never had this problem on windows, but good to know its going to be okei, if i configure it right
[19:05] <nibbler> kenyabob: exactly
[19:05] <Slart> nucking: check in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  that's where ubuntu stores which network becomes eth0, eth1 and so on.. change it there and reboot
[19:05] <nucking> RichardLynch, one is onboard, the other is pci
[19:05] <powertoo108> Anusien: Just looked it up, the ctrl key isn't needed just hold alt+print screen the entire time, then reisub one at a time in order
[19:05] <nucking> Slart, thanks
[19:05] <afeijo> nibbler, sorry, too fast channel
[19:05] <RichardLynch> nucking: Maybe down in the BIOS you might find a setting for it...  I sure doubt it.
[19:06] <powertoo108> Anusien: reisuo will shutdown instead of restarting it.
[19:06] <afeijo> nibbler: the user is root
[19:06] <nibbler> afeijo: you should have highlighting on lines with your nickname, xchat (and most irc clients) do it by (ubuntu) default
[19:06] <powertoo108> Anusien: If that doesn't work, you probably have to do a hard reset.
[19:06] <theadmin> What network manager is used in Xubuntu?
[19:06] <nibbler> afeijo: sudo crontab -l
[19:06] <RichardLynch> nucking: You're asking a hardware question more than software, really...  Not sure the right channel, but Ubuntu is too high-level, almost for sure.
[19:06] <Anusien> powertoo108: Just wondering if I should do it or let it finish, and what will break if I reboot during this
[19:07] <jada> network manager 0.7 in ubuntu
[19:07] <powertoo108> Anusien: It shouldn't break anything, but it will kill all running processes.
[19:07] <Slart> RichardLynch: Ubuntu maps interface names to .. MAC addresses I think.. it does this the first time it sees them and then saves the result in the udev rules.d folder.. no magic.. just a text file
[19:07] <powertoo108> Anusien: http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart
[19:08] <guntbert> powertoo108: if I read correctly Anusien is in the middle of a (hung) dist-upgrade
[19:09] <Anusien> guntbert: I may or may not be hung. I have no way to monitor its process other than listening ot the hd
[19:09] <powertoo108> guntbert: Oh missed that part. I guess it could break something then?
[19:09] <afeijo> nibbler: root crontab have no line that run every 10 minutes
[19:09] <axon> \j #linuxac
[19:09] <karelm> Hi all. I have an old ibook clamshell (3GB hd, 280MB ram, 300Mhz G3) here and am looking for suggestions on how to optimize it. I was thinking of doing an install using the alternate cd and then run xfce (as gnome is probably too heavy)... any suggestions?
[19:09] <rek> hi any program to reproduce the voice? text to speech l
[19:10] <nibbler> afeijo: hmm, there is other sources for cronjobs in /etc/cron* but nothing that should be 3-minutely
[19:10] <guntbert> Anusien: powertoo108: don't know for myself - just wanted to give you a heads up
[19:10] <nibbler> afeijo: no idea then
[19:10] <Anusien> guntbert: It seems to me that even if it guns the system, most of the data should be safe, right?
[19:10] <powertoo108> Anusien: Well I guess wait as long as you're willing to wait. But this method should fix it. I've only had one instance when the REISUB combo didn't work for me.
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> karelm, that's a PowerPC (vs Intel) be sure whatever OS you use supports PowerPC
[19:11] <Anusien> powertoo108: ... what was that instance?
[19:11] <jada> what do u guys think, is it a torrent client problem or a configure problem that result in loosing internet connection
[19:11] <Slart> karelm: he.. for a second I read.. old ibook.. 3GB memory.. that doesn't sound so old.. or.. wait..   to answer your question.. try openbox or xfce.. or even some of the even leaner linux distros.. arch/DSL/puppylinux
[19:11] <erUSUL> !info festival | rek
[19:11] <guntbert> Anusien: yes, the data are always retrieveable - because nothing messes with the file system during an upgrade
[19:11] <karelm> ZykoticK9: yeah I know, ubuntu doesn't officially support it anymore but it is there... I actually have xubuntu running at the moment, but I was thinking that an alternate install would be faster...?
[19:11] <powertoo108> Anusien: "fix it" bad choice of words, it should restart, despite how frozen it seems, and yes, all hard drive data is safe since its shutdown in a proper way.
[19:12] <Anusien> How long should a dist upgrade take?
[19:12] <jolaren> I've installed ubuntu minimal installation, how do i install the window manager? like gnome?
[19:12] <Slart> Anusien: depends on the hardware, network connection and how much stuff you're upgrading
[19:13] <karelm> Slart: I tried lxde (uses openbox). I think its a little lighter but I like xfce more... it has a more polished feel
[19:13] <Anusien> Average hardware from two years ago on a large pipe, upgrading just about everything. wondering if 24 hours is reasonable?
[19:13] <cxo> karelm, a generic linux kernel supplied with any popular distro will be too much for that thing. Use ubuntu as a base and build your own kernel.
[19:13] <powertoo108> Anusien: I don't really remember the specifics. But nothing responded, no ssh, ctrl+alt+f1 didn't work, no clicks on the drive, couldn't even open the cd drives.
[19:13] <CAPcap> how do i open an internet radio broadcast from shoutcast with rhythmbox?
[19:13] <Slart> Anusien: 24 hours seems a bit exessive.. anything over an hour would make me start troubleshooting
[19:13] <guntbert> CAPcap: I think you need a plugin
[19:13] <Anusien> The CD drive will open
[19:14] <Anusien> Slart: Then I'm officially worried :)
[19:14] <jellow_> lol
[19:14] <Slart> karelm: sure.. go with xfce then..
[19:14] <usuario> hola
[19:14] <Anusien> It was going through a terminal session in a vnc session, for what that's worth
[19:14] <rek> i don't hear the soud
[19:14] <rek> i don't hear the sound
[19:14] <Anusien> of course it hung a few times when it couldn't upgrade the lird
[19:14] <usuario> del san isidoro
[19:14] <guntbert> !es | usuario
[19:14] <karelm> Slart: I'm especially wonering if I will see any differnce when installing with the alternate cd instead of xubuntu livecd...
[19:15] <Slart> karelm: you might want to remove any unneeded stuff running in the background... not really sure how to decide what to remove.. but try searching the ubuntu forums.. there has to be a "unpimp my ubuntu" thread somewhere
[19:15] <Slart> karelm: I think you'll end up with the same system.. the alternate install cd can do some extra tricks.. encrypted partitions and such
[19:15] <domito_> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% of replies get back to the requestor
[19:15] <domito_> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside, server is 8.04
[19:16] <sniker> Hm, I just downloaded skype 2.1 beta 2 for Ubuntu
[19:16] <sniker> And how do you share screens?
[19:16] <nibbler> domito_: and the arp replies are seen on the firewall, and get dropped then?
[19:16] <sniker> Can't find an option for it despite googling?
[19:16] <nibbler> domito_: ah, your wrote, sorry
[19:16] <karelm> Slart: oh ok, hoped it would really make a difference... I don't really use the system so I can easily do a clean install, no need for backups or anything :)
[19:17] <nibbler> domito_: its only true for arp?
[19:17] <domito_> nibbler: all  are seen on the bridge and external IF, internal sees only 33% of replies
[19:17] <domito_> nibbler: no, arp is the cause of it though
[19:17] <jolaren> how do i install the gnome windowmanager in ubuntu miniman installation??
[19:17] <erUSUL> domito_: #networking ?
[19:17] <domito_> no other packets get through cuz it does not get a hw address
[19:17] <blakkheim> jolaren: there is no "gnome window manager"
[19:17] <erUSUL> jolaren: only the wm or whole gnome ?
[19:17] <Oneill> hi @ all
[19:18] <domito_> erUSUL: I was looking for such a channel, will try :)
[19:18] <erUSUL> blakkheim: metacity is the gnome wm
[19:18] <jolaren> erUSUL; only the wm
[19:18] <blakkheim> erUSUL: metacity is a window manager that's the default in the gnome DE, but there is no window manager called gnome. that's what i meant.
[19:18] <Slart> karelm: well.. the installer itself might be a bit different.. I think the alternate cd has a text based installer.. the regular desktop one has prettier pictures
[19:18] <erUSUL> jolaren: look for others wm. metacity without gnome is pretty useless.
[19:18] <nibbler> domito_: there is special methods which you can apply to generate packetloss, but i guess you didnt play with these?
[19:19] <blakkheim> jolaren: look into dwm/awesome/openbox/fluxbox imo
[19:19] <karelm> Slart: yes, but when I mean alternate I also mean... no gui to start with, and then build on top of it
[19:19] <troopperi> sniker, checked this? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/skype-21-beta-2-for-linux-released.html
[19:19] <erUSUL> jolaren: openbox windowmaker or fluxbox is a better choices for a standalone wm
[19:19] <Slart> karelm: ah.. have you looked at the minimal install cd?
[19:19] <zamba> i have this irritating problem with ubuntu 9.10.. whenever i click on a terminal window, it is interpreted as a double-click.. this means that my copy buffer is wiped.. how can i fix this behaviour?
[19:19] <gerzel> brassero cd burner just died on me.  How do I kill it and eject the cd?  Just want it to stop
[19:19] <Slart> !minimal | karelm
[19:19] <gerzel> tried kill
[19:19] <gerzel> tried sudo kill
[19:19] <gerzel> tried unmount
[19:20] <powertoo108> Anusien: If I were in your situation, I'd REISUB it, then see what's broken after the restart. If its pretty messed up, I'd grab the install cd and reinstall. Note: I have /home as its own partition so reinstalling is fast and I don't lose any /home data. Anyway, I've got to go now. Good luck with it.
[19:20] <ionut> what does sudo kill ?
[19:20] <nibbler> gerzel: lsof |grep /dev/cdrom
[19:20] <Slart> nibbler: oh.. that sounds interesting.. anything I can google for to find how to simulate/generate packetloss in iptables?
[19:20] <Anusien> powertoo108: I don't know if I was that smart
[19:20] <domito_> nibbler: no, I have been watching tcpdumps trying to find frags or dups with no success
[19:20] <domito_> or drops
[19:20] <Anusien> powertoo108: but the livecd should let me mount the drive and back up if I have to
[19:21] <sniker> troopperi: Aha, so basically, if you don't have a webcam the screensharing feature doesn't work? Since I just upgraded but don't have that webcam icon since I don't have a webcam, the scrensharing feature doesn't work?
[19:21] <sniker> troopperi: Thanks very much for the link tho
[19:21] <nibbler> Slart: dunno, just have some boot-cd here with which i can simulate latency/packetloss
[19:21] <guntbert> gerzel: what was your kill command?
[19:21] <gerzel> nibbler: no responce.
[19:21] <LucidGuy> Any Scalix users in the house?
[19:21] <gerzel> sudo kill 8889
[19:21] <troopperi> sniker, np :)
[19:21] <nibbler> gerzel: did you put your cd device in the right place?
[19:22] <guntbert> gerzel: try sudo kill -9 8889
[19:22] <gerzel> standard install.  It had been working before.
[19:22] <Hilikus> can someone tell me what are (if any) the differences between ubuntu one and dropbox
[19:22] <Slart> nibbler: ah.. I think I found something.. there is a "nth" module that lets you do stuff to every nth packet.. thanks for the inspiration =)
[19:22] <powertoo108> Anusien: Well, worse case scenario, your system is trashed, you have to use a live cd to backup /home to an external or something, then reinstall, giving /home its own partition, then move files from your backup. It would be a pain, but its a fixable situation without worries of data loss imo. Yes, you shouldn't have any problems mounting the drives.
[19:22] <nibbler> Hilikus: ubuntu one works bit betterwith some ubuntu apps, dropbox is better for different platforms
[19:22] <Slart> nibbler: there's also a "random" rule =)
[19:22] <nibbler> Slart: welcome
[19:23] <gerzel> system monitor says it is uninteruptable and -9 did not seem to render a change
[19:23] <Hilikus> nibbler: theres not unbuntu one windows client right
[19:23] <dasil003> Can someone suggest why sudo might not find a command even if it's in the PATH?  e.g. http://pastie.org/786952
[19:23] <karelm> Slart: well, as far as I understood, the alternate can install a "command-line system", which assumed is kinda like the minimal cd... except packages are already on the cd... I need to get my install working using my wireless card, so I was afraid the minimal cd wouldn't work...
[19:23] <nibbler> Hilikus: guess so, no idea. well and ubuntu one is a bit more open
[19:23] <daijoubu> Is it ok to use Ubuntu 9.04 instead of 9.10? Will i still get security updates ?
[19:23] <erUSUL> !9.04
[19:24] <gerzel> drive is just stuck spinning
[19:24] <guntbert> gerzel: uninterruptible means it is waiting on some i/o ... probably on the CD :-(
[19:24] <erUSUL> daijoubu: is normal release it will get updates for 18 months
[19:24] <Slart> karelm: hmm.. I'm  not so sure about that.. I'm pretty sure the desktop and alternate versions install the same systems.. apart from some smaller differences in the installer... then there's a server version which is command line only.. and desktop which is the regular ubuntu install
[19:24] <karelm> Slart: I was going to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[19:24] <gerzel> oh well I gotta restart for updates anyway
[19:24] <erUSUL> !eol > daijoubu
[19:25] <karelm> Slart: It says "Disk space on an absolutely minimal installation can be reduced to as little as 600 MB". The xubuntu install is almost the full 3GB I have :p
[19:26] <Slart> karelm: yes.. there's a lot of stuff you can remove unless you actually need it.. things like GIMP or openoffice can use up lots of space
[19:27] <Slart> karelm: but 3 GB should be plenty for an empty system.. hang on.. I just installed 9.10 regular desktop version in a vm.. let me check how much disk space it uses
[19:27] <daijoubu> erUSUL, i just wanted to ask, because i can get all of my hardware to work under 9.04 but under 9.10 it's not possible, any idea what options do i have? Can i use 9.04 and hope for the best after it's dead?
[19:28] <Slart> karelm: that howto looked very dated.. as far as I can tell it's at least 2 years old
[19:28] <erUSUL> daijoubu: well; ideally you should try to make all hardware work in karmic (or sip karmic and try lucid)
[19:29] <karelm> Slart: mmm, well, guess I can always try and see where I end up :)
[19:29] <brontosaurusrex> well 9.04 seems surprisingly dead, lots of new stuff is just not packaged for it
[19:29] <daijoubu> erUSUL, i want tot ry Lucid but i can't get it to work with unetbootin and my usb stick, it doesn't make a bootable image on the usb, are there other tools for making Lucid install from USB sticks ?
[19:29] <Slart> karelm: in my vm, 9.10 64bit regular desktop version uses 2.3 GB fully installed
[19:29] <daijoubu> *try
[19:30] <erUSUL> daijoubu: i meant try lucid when it is out
[19:30] <Slart> karelm: openoffice alone probably uses 400MB+
[19:30] <daijoubu> erUSUL, ok thank you
[19:31] <karelm> Slart: yes, it's something like that, but once the system is running, with swap etc, there isn't much left
[19:31] <karelm> Slart: maybe I'll upgrade the harddrive soon :), I just got the system
[19:31] <Slart> karelm: nope.. but once you have the system up and running you can start deleting stuff..
[19:31] <CapitalistPig> i heard ubuntu is for newbs
[19:31] <CapitalistPig> what does that mean
[19:31] <guntbert> !ot | CapitalistPig
[19:32] <Slart> CapitalistPig: Ubuntu tries to be user friendly.. for a little wider interpretation of "user" than some other distros use
[19:32] <CAPcap> how do i install xmms?
[19:32] <karelm> Slart: yeah, that's what I've been doing so far, oh well, I'll see, thanks for the input ;)
[19:32] <jolaren> how do I install the gnome-desktop-enviroment to ubuntu minimal installation?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: Ubuntu is  the first distro for many Desktop Linux users, but expereinced  Desktop Linux users use it as well
[19:32] <Slart> karelm: you're welcome
[19:32] <karelm> Slart: btw, any idea which browser runs a little "light"? Opera seemed faster than Firefox, Chrome doesn't have a powerpc version (I think), ...
[19:33] <sebsebseb> karelm: try konqueror
[19:33] <phong_> hi guys, do u mind if u can tell me what are some of good things to use linux over windows ?
[19:33] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - but are ubuntu users not respected in the general linux community?
[19:33] <CapitalistPig> im just curious about the big picture
[19:33] <erUSUL> karelm: midori
[19:33] <phong_> i'm so noob to this....but would like to learn linux
[19:33] <Slart> karelm: try one of the "local" ones.. firefox without plugins can be light-ish..
[19:33] <Shazam> I'm on 9.04, the lastest version of eclipse in my repos is 3.2, and I need 3.3+ . Do I just have to install the .deb manually, or is there a way I can let apt handle it for me?
[19:33] <klappi> phong_: freedom
[19:33] <phong_> in what?
[19:34] <phong_> u're too broad
[19:34] <klappi> phong_: of choice
[19:34] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: well not all Desktop Linux users  like Ubuntu, but most don't have a problem with it as a distro, as far as I know
[19:34] <CapitalistPig> what do you mean by desktop linux? like you cant use ubuntu on a laptop?
[19:34] <phong_> captial haha
[19:34] <karelm> sebsebseb: Not sure if that will run so nicely on xfce, but I think I'll try :)
[19:34] <Shazam> CapitalistPig: as opposed to a server
[19:34] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: I mean that Ubuntu isn't the only distribution their are others that you can run on your PC
[19:34] <phong_> u're funny man
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> so laptop is also desktop ?
[19:35]  * jellow detects a troll
[19:35] <phong_> u're a troller
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> does ubuntu have multi-touch support?
[19:35] <karelm> erUSUL: I never heard of it but it looks nice :-), and webkit!
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> for new tablets
[19:35] <phong_> i think evtouch ?
[19:35] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: well no, but  people will count that as Desktop Linux or maybe mobile Linux
[19:35] <erUSUL> karelm: :)
[19:35] <CapitalistPig> multi-touch looks cool
[19:36] <erUSUL> karelm: also there is webkit version of epypahny the gnome browser
[19:36] <phong_> klappi: so tell me what do u like about linux ?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> he is probably some sort of troll really, but anyway :D   anyway CapitalistPig http://www.distrowatch.com
[19:36] <guntbert> !ot | phong_
[19:36] <nibbler> CapitalistPig: i think ubuntu is very good for newbies, but its not bad at all for pros alike....
[19:36] <erUSUL> !ot
[19:36] <jada> this has been fun, but going back to vista now, issuses with, torrentdownloading, flash, java, skype
[19:36] <karelm> erUSUL: Ok, thanks for the tip!
[19:37] <klappi> phong_: in 96 i first installed linux and liked the free compilers and software i could use
[19:37] <erUSUL> jada: ok; farewell
[19:37] <Roasted> how do I see what hardware is in the computer besides lspci? I thought I remember seeing a GUI tool similar to windows deivce manager
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> im worried about multi-touch not being supported
[19:37] <sebsebseb> jada: torrents uhmm
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> and is there 64bit linux?
[19:37] <Slart> jada: ok, enjoy! welcome back when/if you decide to try ubuntu again
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> 64bit ubuntu
[19:37] <jada> lol, never linux again
[19:37] <CapitalistPig> i mean
[19:37] <Shazam> can I use the Karmic repositories on Jaunty?
[19:37] <erUSUL> Roasted: you can install sysinfo or lshw-gtk
[19:37] <Slart> Shazam: it's never good to mix repositories
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: of course
[19:38] <hagus_> I have a DVD with Mint on it.  I already have Ubuntu 9.10 installed.  Is Mint something that I should bother with?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: there is 64bit
[19:38] <erUSUL> Roasted: the later has a weird interface though
[19:38] <CapitalistPig> does ubuntu support all hardware of a new laptop
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: as for touch screen hardare hrm, I guess it depends on the hardware if it works or not
[19:38] <Slart> hagus_: mint is a derivative of ubuntu.. many people think it's nice.. we don't support it here though
[19:38] <Guest74163> I tried Mint...just went back to Ubu
[19:38] <LuciusMare> vlc does not work for me, it does not output sound, otherwise it works, in kde i can successefully test the device, but testing ALSA does not work - any ideas?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: really depends on hardware,  wireless for example is a common problem area
[19:38] <hagus_> ty Slart  and guest :)
[19:39] <sebsebseb> !hardware | CapitalistPig
[19:39] <Roasted> erUSUL, I think sysinfo is what I used before... I thought I remember using something that was already installed though
[19:39] <Slart> CapitalistPig: some stuff works.. some works after some configuring.. some stuff doesn't work even after using harsh language and voodoo
[19:39] <CAPcap> please hoe can i install XMMS?
[19:39] <LucidGuy> Looking for a good IT helpdesk ticket tracking software.  Ideally linux open source with real support options.  Any recommendations.
[19:39] <Shazam> Slart: I figured as much. I'd like to get eclipse 3.3+ (has a plugin for GWT) but not available in 9.04, and I've had some problems with 9.10. Whats the best way for me to get at it?
[19:39] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms
[19:39] <hagus_> Is it mainly just a differently laid-out desktop ?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install xmms
[19:39] <erUSUL> !xmms | CAPcap
[19:39] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms2
[19:39] <CAPcap> well xmms2 really.
[19:39] <Guest74163> audacious is nice
[19:40] <sebsebseb> hagus_: mint is rather green, based on Ubuntu, and  a bit differnet, that's about it really
[19:40] <erUSUL> !software | CAPcap
[19:40] <sebsebseb> hagus_:  and you don't get mint support in here
[19:40] <Slart> Shazam: from what I've heard from other eclipse users installing from source is the way to go.. not sure if that's based on old information or just rumours though
[19:40] <hagus_> oh - I guess that I shall give it a miss then, sebsebseb  :)
[19:40] <CAPcap> sebsebseb should i do sudo apt-get install xmms2?
[19:40] <Guest74163> sudo apt-get install xmms2
[19:40] <Migs> CAPcap: Try it
[19:40] <Shazam> Slart: alrighty, thanks bro
[19:40] <ioka> guys
[19:40] <Slart> Shazam: you're welcome
[19:40] <raingrove> xmms2?
[19:40] <Slart> !info xmms2
[19:40] <ioka> how can I kill all my processes ?
[19:40] <raingrove> good to hear there are still people using it
[19:41] <Slart> ioka: slay
[19:41] <Shazam> ioka: reboot
[19:41] <raingrove> good ole winamp days:P
[19:41] <Guest74163> ioka - ALL processes?
[19:41] <ioka> yes
[19:41] <sebsebseb> ioka: you can use xkill and then click on graphical programs to close them
[19:41] <ioka> I m not a root
[19:41] <ioka> no gui
[19:41] <Guest74163> Can you reboot?
[19:41] <ioka> no i can not reboot
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Shazam: that's true, but also a bit of a silly thing to say as an answer
[19:41] <ioka> kill -9 all
[19:41] <sudhanshu> hi
[19:41] <Slart> !info slay | ioka
[19:41] <erUSUL> ioka: try « sudo pkill -U $USER » ?
[19:42] <bdelin88> Had a question about an issue I am facing... I am trying to use an ubuntu live cd to diagnose a windows issue at this time.  Currently the windows installation is corrupt and will not boot into the OS past the main loading screen... so I figured I would try and see if it was a hardware issue by using a linux live cd (and easily backup the files).  It turns out that the linux live cd runs fine until I try to copy files from the hard driv
[19:42] <grumbly> Help- i did something wrong and now i can't log in...  I have the error checkpassword: wrong password- I'm running 9.04
[19:42] <ioka> I m not a root
[19:42] <sebsebseb> grumbly: ok that's easy enough to re set the password
[19:42] <grumbly> I also can't seem to get into single user mode
[19:42] <erUSUL> ioka: drop the sudo
[19:42] <sudhanshu> hi
[19:42] <Guest74163> bfelin88 - SOunds like a failed hd
[19:42] <nibbler> bdelin88: well.... bad harddrive then
[19:42] <CapitalistPig> hm, so if i have a laptop that has a volume control for example, its a little dial and it is very convenient, will that work on ubuntu?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> grumbly: you want to set a new password?
[19:42] <erUSUL> bdelin88: so it is the hard drive the one that died?
[19:42] <bdelin88> that's what i was thinking hmm...
[19:42] <erUSUL> bdelin88: bad :(
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I never set one to begin with.
[19:43] <nibbler> CapitalistPig: boot a livecd and see for yourself
[19:43] <raingrove> is slart a bot
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: uh?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: you should have an account password
[19:43] <bdelin88> erUSUL: i do not know...I just know it has trouble when using it, although I can still index the files
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: mint is ubuntu with some makeup basically
[19:43] <erUSUL> raingrove: but of course
[19:43] <ioka> Is there a way to kill all my processes without the ability to see their job ids and numbers
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I do
[19:43] <sebsebseb> grumbly: and that has letters and numbers at least
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: and with some non-free installs
[19:43] <Slart> raingrove: not that I've noticed.. ehm.. but would I really know if I was one?
[19:43] <LuciusMare> ioka: pkill
[19:43] <bdelin88> Additionally though, I do not understand, if running off a live cd, why would UBUNTU crash?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: probably
[19:43] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I do.  But it's just a standard user (with sudoers)
[19:43] <bdelin88> ...if it is indeed a HD issue
[19:43] <Guest74163> Ubuntu is easier to find documentation and help for than Mint, IMHO
[19:43] <troublescoot> i've been to the mountains of #httpd and fought my way through the valleys of #bind and #dns, only to wind up here at the gates of #ubuntu. they say you can help me.
[19:43] <Anusien> WEll got frustrated and did an REISUB reboot.  Now I'm just waiting to see what it comes up like
[19:44] <ioka> only pkill LuciusMare
[19:44] <raingrove> erUSUL: he's a dude?
[19:44] <LuciusMare> vlc does not work for me, it does not output sound, aside from that sounds works correctly, in kde i can successefully test the device, but testing ALSA does not work - any ideas?
[19:44] <Guest74163> Live CD runs from optical drive and ram only
[19:44] <hagus_> brontosaurusrex, ah - thanks for explaining that to me. I wondered why they had bothered to produce an alternative of the same thing.  Now I understand.
[19:44] <raingrove> Slart: have you become self aware?
[19:44] <Anusien> troublescoot: Did you remember to dump your troublesome logfiles in the volcano among the mountains of #httpd?
[19:44] <brontosaurusrex> Guest74163: nope, whatever goes for ubuntu, goes for mint as well
[19:44] <Guest74163> Live Cd will run without a hd at all
[19:44] <erUSUL> Slart: do not lie to us... you allways fail the turing test XXDD
[19:44] <CapitalistPig> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download <--- why is there no 64bit download link?
[19:44] <Slart> erUSUL: that was one time.. and there was whiskey involved
[19:44] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes, that's what I thought... so this leads me to believe it is not the hard drive... but it seems to occur only when the HD is in use
[19:44] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I get to a login prompt... but... well... it no login!
[19:44] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: there is you have to select the 64bit option on the page though probably
[19:45] <ioka> pkill does not help
[19:45] <troublescoot> Anusien: i dumped log files, dig outputs and much more
[19:45] <raingrove> Slart: what is tw0 tim3s f|v3?
[19:45] <Slart> raingrove: well.. at some point I guess I must have..
[19:45] <ioka> I get no more proccesse
[19:45] <troublescoot> for this is an issue of DNS/Apache proportions
[19:45] <sebsebseb> grumbly: well you can  open up recovery mode from Grub,  and  get the root terminal and then  passwd username to change the password
[19:45] <Guest74163> bdelin88 - Live Cd will run without a hd at all
[19:45] <Slart> raingrove: a very s177y qe5t10n
[19:45] <grumbly> sebsebseb: how? i'm trying but it keeps dropping me into a tty
[19:45] <Guest74163> It fails when you try to access the hd, correct/
[19:46] <Guest74163> ?
[19:46] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: clieck on -->  |>Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows
[19:46] <raingrove> roflcopter
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes it seems
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> hagus_: i have jaunty mint running here for a while, but now it doesnt look anything like plain mint or plain ubuntu anymore, so it really doesnt matter where you start, mint could be a bit easier for noobs i belive
[19:46] <Guest74163> Then it is the hd :(
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: is there any sort of hardware probing device/software for linux to diagnose issuse?
[19:46] <bdelin88> Guest74163: yes, but why would it cause the live cd to crash?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> Shazam: let's reply to your pm here,  good point,  if wanting to kill everything including the kernel,  re boot or shut down yes.   if wanting to kill  standard running programs such as a browser or something like that, there are other ways
[19:47] <erUSUL> bdelin88: the kernel is the best tester... see the logs /var/log/messages
[19:47] <Guest74163> try smartmontools, I think
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> coool well i will try it then
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> see what all this ubuntu is about
[19:47] <Anusien> Woohoo, I have a working machine! Whether or not I want to resume `dpkg --configure -a` I don't know
[19:47] <erUSUL> bdelin88: but if it freezes accessing the harddisk then you have a huge clue
[19:47] <bdelin88> erUSUL: i don't know how to use that if the live cd freezes though, bc the logs will be discarded when i have to shut off the power
[19:47] <CapitalistPig> what about microsoft office does that run on ubuntu?
[19:47] <Guest74163> Actually, /var/log/messages is right.
[19:47] <Guest74163> Open Office kicks M$
[19:48] <jrib> CapitalistPig: you can use open office as an alternative or look into crossover office
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: good nick
[19:48] <jellow> CapitalistPig: yes , In wine
[19:48] <erUSUL> bdelin88: open a terminal do « tailf /var/log/messages » try to crash the livecd. see what is written
[19:48] <bdelin88> erUSUL: yes, i just kind o ffigured that linux was a little stronger than that, especially the livecd, i thought since it did not run off the live cd that it would continue to run just find and maybe just unmount or display an error
[19:48] <ozzloy> CapitalistPig, are you a troll?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: which version of Office do you watn to run?  there are good alternatives, and ways you can run  Microsoft Office,  Crossover Office is one way, but that program is paid thing,  Wine on the other hand is free
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> can i edit a powerpoint and save it as a powerpoint?
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> for example?
[19:48] <ioka> if I type kill -9 irssi I get arguments should be jobs or process id's  .How can I hind out the job?
[19:48] <bdelin88> erUSUL: nothing will be written though bc it is a cd...i have to restart because it freezes, thus discarding the log file, correct?
[19:48] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: yes
[19:48] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Yes. I've been MS OFfice free for several years now
[19:48] <CapitalistPig> without actually having microsoft office for linux?
[19:48] <grumbly> sebsebseb: I've tried adding single, removing quiet, but it just gives me a login prompt
[19:48] <jrib> ioka: use pkill instead if you want to do it by process name
[19:48] <Guest74163> ps aux or ps -C irssi
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - but do you successfully collaborate with others in Word / Powerpoint?
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: You mean sharing doucments or what?
[19:49] <sebsebseb> ozzloy: they might be,  espesailly with that name, but  even if they are, well they are going through new user  type questions, which could be useful to have answered for other people as well
[19:49] <ioka> jrib: pkill does not work I get : no more processes
[19:49] <grumbly> then, if i wait a few minutes, it says "Activating Swap"... at the login prompt... but even waiting 40 mins, i still get no love.
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - i mean editing the same documents without having any conversion issues
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> i want smooth workflow
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Are you on Windows now?
[19:49] <Guest74163> ioka - ps -C irssi to find pid for irssi
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> Anusien - 7
[19:49] <jrib> ioka: surely pkill works.  See man page for proper syntax perhaps?
[19:49] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it's not 100% compatible with newer features and things like macros and stuff...so if you're an office power user I wouldn't rely on it
[19:49] <ozzloy> sebsebseb, true.  i guess it hasn't gotten too crazy
[19:49] <hotgirl19> Hello, how to share internet connection from pppoe , to the network LAN crossover eth0 , like wlan0<==>pppoe to eth0?
[19:49]  * ozzloy goes to lunch
[19:49] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - damn, seirously?
[19:49] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Try this. Go download OpenOffice for Windows, and see if you can use it without any issues. If you run into issues, you know. If you don't, you also know
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> thats almost a deal breaker for me :(
[19:50] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: are you an office power user?
[19:50] <Anusien> That way if you later switch to Ubuntu, you're familiar with the major tools already
[19:50] <erUSUL> !ics | hotgirl19
[19:50] <grumbly> sebsebseb: Is there any way from grub to bypass my init all together
[19:50] <ioka> I can not use ps I get : no more processes
[19:50] <phong_> do u mind if i can sing?
[19:50] <jellow> CapitalistPig: perhaps ubuntu is not right for you.
[19:50] <jrib> !topic | phong_
[19:50] <Guest74163> ioka  what does top output?
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i dont know what the threshold is for being considered a power user, so i cant say, i do use a lot of features for document ediitng and stuff
[19:50] <bdelin88> jellow: well not so fast...
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> and have to prepare professional contracts and documents
[19:50] <ioka> what top output
[19:50] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: with enough RAM you can run most Windows  programs in a Windows virtual machine, and rather well indeed
[19:50] <CapitalistPig> jellow - :(
[19:50] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: if they want to colaborate, they can all install openoffice
[19:50] <jrib> CapitalistPig: move on from office...
[19:51] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: you can try openoffice in windows for a while and see if it feets your needs
[19:51] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Download Open Office on your windows machine, and see if it works for you. You can run the two side by side just fine (just don't open the same document in both at once!)
[19:51] <ioka> whatever I try to execute I get "no more processes " as a answer
[19:51] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yea of course... pleanty of those kinds of things, but i am saying not enterprise level stuff that is set up or designed a certain way to work in office '07+
[19:51] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: *fit*
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> brontosaurusrex - see i cant tell people to install things to read my documents
[19:51] <BluesKaj> CapitalistPig, with a nick like that most ppl wouod think you're a Bill Gates fan :)
[19:51] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i tried them, but it didnt work :(
[19:51] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: you can save in the Microsoft formats using Open Office, and open them as well
[19:51] <maco> CapitalistPig: OOo can save as .doc...
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> yea im a huge bill gates fan, hes an excellent businessman
[19:51] <Anusien> *peer* Why is it taking my machine several minutes to "Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation..."?
[19:51] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: you can also create a vmware solution and have a windows install right inside linux and run it seamlessly.  The other thing is using wine to install office 2003 or 07
[19:51] <maco> CapitalistPig: you can set it as the default through the tools menu
[19:51]  * Ov3rf10w brb
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: it goes the other way as well, when i get mails with doc or god no docx attachements they go to trash
[19:51] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: maybe you did not get the interfaces right. pppoe uses ppp0
[19:51] <CapitalistPig> sebner - ah okay
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb rahter
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> but i want to start coding more
[19:52] <Guest74163> I am requested to use docx for school. I always submit doc
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> so i want to get on linux
[19:52] <bja> you could probably do that on windows if you really wanted to
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> more often
[19:52] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, yes it is use ppp0 , how to share it?
[19:52] <Anusien> That doesn't require Linux though, but it's a goo didea :)
[19:52] <grumbly> Does anyone know any way from grub to bypass init?
[19:52] <Slart> Guest74163: requested? that's insane? pdf isn't good enough?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: some  Microsoft format documents won't display properly in Open Office, but most will.   you can even run those  free  Microsoft Word document viewers and such in Wine
[19:52] <bja> CapitalistPig, you could install Ubuntu in VirtualBox or VirtualPC
[19:52] <CapitalistPig> u know anusien, but i want to be like a man's man in a computer sense
[19:53] <CapitalistPig> to understand things inside and out
[19:53] <Guest74163> CapitalistPig I run Xp in VirtualBox and never boot into Windows anymore
[19:53] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: what method did you tried ? the iptables one?
[19:53] <bja> as long as you have a relatively new PC with about 2GB of ram or more you'll be fine
[19:53] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: :)
[19:53] <CapitalistPig> Guest21816 - virtualbox = ?
[19:53] <bja> virtualbox.org
[19:53] <Guest74163> Man yes!
[19:53] <bja> it's a free virtual machine
[19:53] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: in that case the example form the wiki this line « sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
[19:53] <Anusien> Solutions that require virtual machines are probably not going to be worthwhile solutions for first time linux users
[19:53] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i used Firestarter
[19:54] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: is sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
[19:54] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yes vbox is great
[19:54] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: Do you know what Wine is?  and no not the drink :D
[19:54] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: ammm ok
[19:54] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, i will do this in terminal now
[19:54] <jellow> !wine | CapitalistPig
[19:54] <grumbly> nevermind, I got it
[19:54] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: i also do not recommend using linux if you have any special devices u use... blackberry phones, or iphone that you wish to sync, etc.
[19:54] <bdelin88> ipods work just fine
[19:54] <Anusien> Do iPhones?
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - shit i totally forgot about that
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> i have a Nokia that i sync
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> calendar only -- (i use gmail so its all web-based no sync needed)
[19:55] <CapitalistPig> and contacts
[19:55] <Anusien> I haven't tried getting my iphone to sync on my server yet
[19:55] <nvme> whats the md5sum command for files that doesnt include the trailing \n ?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: most  Ubuntu users dual boot with WIndows
[19:55] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: no need; if you are using firestarter stick to it
[19:55] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: or so it seems anyway
[19:55] <frostburn> nvme, what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:55] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: well you will be giving that up
[19:56] <nvme> frostburn, just want to md5sum a file :P
[19:56] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: you can vbox it, but i just would rather use windows.
[19:56] <frostburn> nvme, md5sum filemname
[19:56] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: you can have your current Windows install,  and then put Ubuntu on as well on a dual boot, and then select which one to boot up when the computer is turned on or re booted
[19:56] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: and one of them will automatically boot
[19:56] <azo> re
[19:56] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: You might find it's more useful to start with Cygwin
[19:56] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - yea :/
[19:56] <sebsebseb> Anusien: cygwin hrm
[19:56] <nvme> frostburn, i remember there is some issue with that and trailing endlines or something
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> cygwin sucks
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> and i am a linux user
[19:57] <erUSUL> hotgirl19: tried the one described in the wiki under Ubuntu 9.10 Method ?? seems the easier one
[19:57] <sebsebseb> Anusien: interesting software I know, but  not something I would recommend to someone who is new to this kind of software
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> i used to use mandrake, then slackware
[19:57] <hotgirl19> erUSUL, thank you :)
[19:57] <Anusien> Cygwin is more complicated you think than dual boots and virtual machines?
[19:57] <frostburn> nvme, not that i'm aware of
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> CapitalistPig: use virtualbox
[19:57] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: I have come to a point where I have a great appreciation for the linux community and OS'.  However, I cannot use it for the desktop, that is just for me.  I am a windows power user and I know how to do what I need, I have been running for 4+ years without virus protection just fine.  I use linux for my server, etc, but I just can't make the switch, and you need to decide why exactly you are trying to make this switch, bec
[19:57] <CapitalistPig> ill just dual boot
[19:57] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it's a  shell,  that runs command line apps, and such, last time I used it
[19:58] <Anusien> sebsebseb: It's even less than that, but it has a shell, yeah
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it doesn't just run Firefox or  that kind of software
[19:58] <Anusien> CapitalistPig: Make sure you backup and read a good guide very carefully.  Dual booting can be difficult because windows is twitchy
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - my main reason is to just be more involved, learn more coding
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> and i think linux is a good enviro to be in for that
[19:58] <Anusien> sebsebseb: Well of course not, because Cygwin runs under Windows
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Audible: cygwin is really for geeks, not  the "average computer user"
[19:58] <CapitalistPig> i mean mainly ill just be surfing, mail, and light office -- and media
[19:58] <Anusien> rofl
[19:58] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: here is what i recommend then...
[19:58] <sebsebseb> Anusien: thought you would put that
[19:58] <Leoneof`> hi
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: why not run vbox on windows and box into a linux system :)
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it makes more sense...
[19:59] <Anusien> It's a biiiiig leap?
[19:59] <CapitalistPig> than dualbooting?
[19:59] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: first you need to find out what hardware works really
[19:59] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: that's what I live CD is about
[19:59] <Anusien> sebsebseb: Cygwin is a compatibilty DLL that lets you run compile linux applications for Windows
[19:59] <CapitalistPig> whats live cd
[19:59] <Leoneof`> hey erUSUL
[19:59] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: yea... why lose all your work and have to restart just to switch from one thing to another
[19:59] <bja> Anusien, I don't see what's so complicated about a virtual machine
[19:59] <erUSUL> Leoneof`: hi
[19:59] <Anusien> bja: How experienced are you with them?
[19:59] <bja> it's how I use windows and how I build software for several servers
[20:00] <bja> as far as I can tell, it involved clicking a couple times
[20:00] <bja> then downloading an iso
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - it just seems....stupid to run linux in a little program to do the things i could be doing in the system that im running that program in...
[20:00] <bja> then clicking some more
[20:00] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: it's also the install CD, but  there's a live session on it, which is proper Ubuntu really, which is  Ubuntu from a CD
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - how do i run the livecd to test my hardware compatability?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: was going to remove the proper Ubuntu bit,  if things work on a Live CD  they useually work in an install.   the live cd session is rather similar to a proper install of Ubuntu, just will be a bit slower since it's running from a CD
[20:00] <CapitalistPig> sebsebseb - download link?
[20:01] <bja> CapitalistPig, do you know how to select a boot device with your bios?
[20:01] <Anusien> bja: Speaking as someone who lives on UNIX for several hours a day at work and run my own HTTP/SSH/SFTP server, starting over with linux and running windows inside as a VM is a huuuuuuge jump
[20:01] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: it's your choice but if you want to restart every time just get back into your business system (i.e. if you use outlook, etc.. and stuff.. then it's a pain in the ass to go back and forth)... if you need to sync your phone, you will have to restart, think about it first is all i'm saying
[20:01] <CapitalistPig> bja - dude im not a computer noob
[20:01] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: I think these other people nearly confussed you,  oh you can  virtual machine Windows, oh  you can dual boot (ok that was me),   oh  you can do this cygwin thingey program.   Really all you want right now is an Ubuntu Live CD
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> bja: yes, but you wont enjoy watching hd  movies in linux in a box
[20:01] <bja> Anusien, I suggested running virtualbox from windows and installing ubuntu in it
[20:01] <isolat3dsh33p> I don't really get, what's the meaning of the warning "You are about to install software that can't be authenticated". "wget" is listed in the updates that can't be authenticated. Should I just install the updates?
[20:01] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - nah i dont do outlook, i know enough to avoid getting caught in that trap
[20:01] <bja> brontosaurusrex, I don't do that anyway
[20:01] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: also to dual boot you would use that Live CD if you want to do that
[20:01] <Anusien> Ah, I may have missed that
[20:02] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i have TONS of friends who are miserable because their stuff is stuck in Outlook and its too dificult to mess with
[20:02] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | isolat3dsh33p
[20:02] <CapitalistPig> and they just use it because they are in quick sand
[20:02] <bja> CapitalistPig, you just need to reboot into the livecd after you burn the ISO. make sure that your machine is booting from CD/DVD then it will start up automatically
[20:02] <denny> will Lucid hold on Xorg 1.6.x, or might it bump up to 1.7.x before it ships?
[20:02] <denny> I need 1.7.x for my dual-card setup
[20:03] <denny> I'm worried that Lucid will probably hang back though, being a LTS
[20:03] <CapitalistPig> bj0rn2 - is there supposed to be a different livecd download though?
[20:03] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, it's an GPG error? But wget is listed as well. And it's just a warning. :(
[20:03] <bdelin88> CapitalistPig: well all i'm saying is think about it... to me it sounds like you are just wanting to use linux just to use linux... and all the nice effects and everything, it's not a good enough reason, personally for me, to dual boot, but go for it
[20:03] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: oh right Outlook well  Codeweavers is meant to be the best for Office 2007,  however Wine  after a bit of configuring is good as well or something like that.   You can  think more about that kind of stuff later,  first you  should try Ubuntu from a Live CD.
[20:03] <CapitalistPig> bdelin88 - i appreciate it, i think youre right
[20:03] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: download the ISO from the Ubuntu website  for 9.10
[20:03] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: well it is weird that the updates repos lack the gpg key. but could be
[20:04] <bja> Anusien, why aren't you in #tmd?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | CapitalistPig
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> ?
[20:04] <RocketLauncher> What are you doing here
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> is the ubuntu download the same as live cd?
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> or is it separate?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: go to the website and download Ubuntu
[20:04] <erUSUL> CapitalistPig: is the same
[20:04] <bbong> I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Acer Asphire One Netbook (Intel Core 2 Solo), works great, but once I do an online upgrade after install, and reboot the system is dead, I get  cmov/libm.so.6: Invalid ELF Header
[20:04] <trism> !info xorg lucid | denny, looks like 1.7.5 to me
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> yea its 166mb in
[20:04] <CapitalistPig> almost done
[20:04] <phong_> Capitalistpig.. why dont u blow up ur pc
[20:04] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: that doesn't sound right it will be nearly 700MB
[20:05] <CapitalistPig> phong_ - because i have too much porn
[20:05] <phong_> captitalistpig, just think of your pc power cable wire as a d*ck and suck it...go download and stop asking the same question.
[20:05] <denny> trism: oh that's weird, I could have sworn alpha1 had 1.6.4 or so - thanks!
[20:05] <Anusien> bja: :)
[20:06] <Slart> !coc | phong_
[20:06]  * denny considers giving alpha2 a run
[20:06] <Slart> !etiquette | phong_
[20:06] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, in the Change tab, there's a message "This change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs". I should trusts these updates?
[20:06] <CapitalistPig> phong_ - rage much?
[20:06] <phong_> bye
[20:07] <sebsebseb> !lucid | denny trism
[20:07] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: really dunno; looks suspicious. i did not get a wget update this days (karmic 9.10)
[20:08] <denny> sebsebseb: oh, okay.  Sorry.
[20:09] <jellow> does anyone know any mips architecture emulators ?
[20:09] <sebsebseb> trism: didn't know could get the lucid  repo info in here though, so :)
[20:09] <jellow> !mips | jrib
[20:09] <erUSUL> jellow: there are a few iirc
[20:09] <jellow> sorry jrib
[20:10] <Skeptic> is there a way to make a live usb and add grub to the mbr of the live usb?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> CapitalistPig: before burning the contents of your ISO to CD, it's a good idea to check you have a good download by the way
[20:10] <erUSUL> jellow: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Emulators
[20:10] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | CapitalistPig
[20:10] <jellow> erUSUL: Thanks.
[20:10] <Daemonis> Does anyone know if the Radeon x1250m is going to get proprietary drivers in 9.1? Right now all It gives me is a third party driver and that's no 3d acceleration.
[20:11] <Daemonis> Open source driver, I should say.
[20:11] <erUSUL> Daemonis: not likely
[20:11] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, it's several days ago, probably on Monday or Tuesday. I did add a new repo for wireshark on Monday. Maybe it came from that. If I remove it from the repo and the updates comes from that, the updates should disappear right?
[20:11] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: yes
[20:11] <dnajovo> if i want to dualboot ubuntu and fedora core what mount points at each filesystem should i use?also the space that my data will go should i mount it as home?and if i do?both ubuntu and fedora will use the same home?
[20:11] <Daemonis> That's not very ubuntu like. I know it's older hardware... but it's not like it's that old... and this is a laptop so upgrading the graphics chip isn't an option.
[20:12] <dnajovo> if anyone has an idea please help cause i am at the partitioner menu already at my desktop pc
[20:12] <Daemonis> I'd hate to have to go back to windows just because I can't get a decent graphics driver :(
[20:12] <trism> sebsebseb: yeah you can get anything back to hardy, comes in handy occasionally
[20:13] <dnajovo> anyone?????????????????????????
[20:13] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: instaling Ubuntu for the first time?
[20:13] <dnajovo> no
[20:13] <dnajovo> but i want to tripleboot actually win7 ubuntu and fedora
[20:13] <Slart> dnajovo: this is only my personal preference.. but I wouldn't use the same /home folder.. I would create a something like ~/mystuff and mount that on both system but keep the rest of /home dedicated for each system
[20:13] <dnajovo> i have successfully dualbooted
[20:13] <dnajovo> but tripleboot i try it for the first time
[20:13] <Slart> dnajovo: and please don't start with the million question marks.. you'll only get ignored
[20:14] <dnajovo> ok
[20:14] <Daemonis> Heh. I guess I'll just be stuck using 8.1
[20:14] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: oh yeah your the Fedora one,  I  wasn't going to reply to you since   well  you might get Grub 2 issue and uh and  distros fighting over home maybe
[20:14] <sebsebseb> dnajovo: and I am not really the person to help with both of those things
[20:15] <ben2000677> hello
[20:15] <pilif12p> can i install a deb file via ssh?
[20:15] <dnajovo> sebsebseb,  i'm not a specific type i just want to know whick is the best way of mounting my partitons i can trible boot but i want your help to do it correctly
[20:15] <erUSUL> pilif12p: dpkg -i file.deb
[20:15] <Slart> pilif12p: try gdebi
[20:15] <pilif12p> ah
[20:15] <Slart> pilif12p: well.. or dpkg
[20:15] <dnajovo> and i thought that poweruser opensource guys don't have grudges with other distros
[20:15] <dnajovo> as for the boot manager i'll keep grub2 from ubuntu
[20:15] <noXandOs> Hey guys I think I need help. I am trying to share a Drive from another PC running Ubuntu. I thought i set up Samba correctly but I cant see the drive, just the puter.
[20:16] <sebsebseb> djamel: poweruser uhmm not exactly, there's a lot I don't know
[20:16] <sebsebseb> djamel: also I am on another distro right now :)
[20:16] <Slart> dnajovo: we don't have any grudges.. both are nice distros
[20:16] <dnajovo> sebsebseb,  i'm relatively new to linux and usually i google anything i wanna know
[20:16] <linuxprobie> Hey folks, just got my UNR liveboot pendrive working and I was wondering if there's a simple way to disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the whole live cd (which is a logn and complicated process that I am not confident in achieveing successfully)
[20:17] <dnajovo> but now i am at the middle of the installation thats why im asking for your help!
[20:17] <assmonger> how i can i list all shared memory regions?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> djamel: your question is a bit more general really I think, you could try ##linux as well
[20:17] <bbong> I've installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Acer Asphire One Netbook (Intel Core 2 Solo), works great, but once I do an online upgrade after install, and reboot the system is dead, I get  cmov/libm.so.6: Invalid ELF Header
[20:17] <sebsebseb> djamel: I don't understand, you want help setting up Ubuntu partitions or what?
[20:17] <domito_> assmonger: ipcs
[20:17] <dnajovo> anyway thanx for the help
[20:17] <dnajovo> i'll google some more
[20:17] <ben2000677> Hi all, I need to ask a very common question (I have googled but there are too many answers to this): I am turning to Linux and want to know the most recommended netbook that's fit for ubuntu
[20:17] <technicallyrite> Is there an #ubuntuserver channel on freenode?
[20:17] <sebsebseb> ben2000677: not sure if this mentions netbooks at all, but well
[20:18] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: try ubuntu netbook remix
[20:18] <domito_> technicallyrite: #ubuntu-server
[20:18] <sebsebseb> !hardware | ben2000677
[20:18] <Slart> assmonger: there's nothing in "vmstat" ?
[20:18] <kyle6513> hello again everyone
[20:18] <domito_> netbook remix is nice, wife isusing it on her Acer aspire one
[20:18] <assmonger> domito_: does shared memory get automatically freed when the calling process is killed?
[20:18] <kyle6513> domito_, isnt it buggy?
[20:18] <genii> ben2000677: I put it on an Asus Eeepc 1005HA, runs great on that
[20:18] <domito_> assmonger: depends on the app and if it cleans up properly
[20:18] <linuxprobie> I have it set up on a pen drive, but I need to disable the liveboot autologin
[20:19] <domito_> you can use ipcrm to remove them by force
[20:19] <ben2000677> yes I plan on getting the netbook remix so I hear acer and maybe dell are good akes to ook at
[20:19] <kyle6513> genii, what did?
[20:19] <technicallyrite> domito_: thanks!
[20:19] <gabe> hi
[20:19] <assmonger> domito_: ipcrm, thanks!
[20:19] <sebsebseb> gabe: hi
[20:19] <genii> kyle6513: Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[20:19] <sebsebseb> to late they left already
[20:19] <ben2000677> I'm more worried about keyboard size whilst keeping it like 8.9inches
[20:19] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, yes, it's from the Wireshark/Ethereal repo. Thanks for helping :)
[20:19] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: no problem
[20:19] <isolat3dsh33p> :)
[20:19] <kyle6513> genii, its buggy for me on my 1000H =/
[20:20] <domito_> ben2000677: the kybd size on the aspire is ok if you have small hands, I hate it.  The worst is the touchpad because the buttons are flush with the chassis and hard to press ... get a wireless mouse
[20:21] <kyle6513> domito_, try an asus eeepc 1000H, it has a 10" screen with a 6 hour battery if you are just listening to music, it works great with ubuntu!
[20:21] <ben2000677> domito_: so is there any like bigger versions
[20:22] <linuxprobie> netbooks aren't meant for big
[20:22] <ben2000677> so im guessing Acer is the make of choice it only really comes down to specs when choosing
[20:22] <kyle6513> linuxprobie, depends on what you want to be using it for...
[20:23] <linuxprobie> they're meant for extremely portable and just powerful enough to get netsurfing, wordprocessing and messaging
[20:23] <kyle6513> ben2000677, what are the specs of the acer you're looking at
[20:23] <linuxprobie> hence NETbook
[20:23] <ben2000677> sorry i mean Asus
[20:23] <kyle6513> ben2000677, yeah asus has done great things, even putting linux on it by default
[20:23] <muunleit_> Hey. If I get a message in Empathy, the TrayIcon changes to the symbol for "symbol not found". Is there a way how I can fix this? I have found now new_message-icon in /usr/share/empathy
[20:23] <ben2000677> well that;'s the thing, will I need more than 1gb of RAM for just coding
[20:24] <ben2000677> how does Linux specs compare to windows, surely they don't need to be as powerful
[20:24] <Slart> ben2000677: linux is very customizable.. it can be even worse than windows.. or much lighter..
[20:25] <imMute> ben2000677: linux can run on 16MB of ram (in embedded situations)
[20:25] <ben2000677> Slart: yes, I've seen that ubuntu is like 1 out of loads of different variants
[20:25] <Kraln> imMute: less than that
[20:25] <sirMajid> hey all, how can I set an alias for one address in my hard disk?
[20:25] <[criipt]> How do i edit gtk fonts?
[20:26] <RanyAlbeg> hi guys , im on a DELL inspiron 1555 . the system wont start after last update
[20:26] <ben2000677> If I got a netbook with Ubuntu, and after getting the hang of linux, wanted to change to Backtrack or LFS, is that a simple task?
[20:26] <RanyAlbeg> i cant even start a terminal to exec fsck or something.
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> i've got a problem trying to connect a usb device
[20:27] <jacquesdupontd> usb 2-1.4: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd loadibec rqt 33 rq 1 len 4096 ret -110
[20:27] <RanyAlbeg> any idea?someone?
[20:28] <Anusien> woo
[20:28] <jacquesdupontd> someone could explain me why i have this error ?
[20:28] <Anusien> My machine works, thanks!
[20:28] <linuxprobie> RanyAlbeg: i wish I could, but most of the people in this room have forgotten more than I know about linux
[20:29] <ben2000677> If I got a netbook with Ubuntu and changed to a different variant of linux, is that very do-able?
[20:29] <inManix> i am livid
[20:29] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: as far as I know, you'd just reinstall your os like any time you change
[20:30] <inManix> after all my formatting, xp install skipped a dll....can i format and reinstall XP after ubuntu?
[20:30] <ben2000677> linuxprobie: does that include variants like LFS?
[20:30] <martinovich> je cherche un logiciel de traitement d'image pour ubuntu 9.10
[20:30] <inManix> ICFGNT.DLL i hate you
[20:30] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: you can install any os you want. just as if you were installing xp instead of 98, you'd just have to start with a clean install
[20:31] <[criipt]> How do I change gtk font settings?
[20:31] <erUSUL> !fr | martinovich
[20:31] <ben2000677> ok thanks very much all
[20:31] <linuxprobie> inManix: try doing a repair of your windows installation with your windows disk
[20:31] <inManix> will do
[20:31] <jellow> !gimp martinovich:
[20:31] <martinovich> sorry, Iam looking for an image software any good suggestion?
[20:32] <jellow> martinovich: il y a plusieurs , gimp , inkscape
[20:32] <RanyAlbeg> linuxprobie: problem is that when i start up the machine , every key press makes it stuck . and i cant proceed from that point but to shut it down and restart.
[20:32] <erUSUL> martinovich: photo editor as in photoshop?
[20:32] <martinovich> simple photo editor
[20:33] <linuxprobie> !gimp martinovich
[20:33] <linuxprobie> >.<
[20:33] <Like> hi
[20:33] <erUSUL> martinovich: is either gimp or the limited editing options photo managers such as gthumb offer
[20:33] <linuxprobie> try gimp
[20:33] <Like> !@lart
[20:33] <martinovich> ok thank you
[20:33] <technicallyrite> gimp is not a photo manager
[20:34] <Like> help i dont know the driver disapear X-fi!!
[20:34] <technicallyrite> gimp is an image editing application
[20:34] <linkd> gimp is a dirty dirty boy
[20:34] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin on a liveboot without having to rebuild the live image?
[20:34] <Like> x-fi xtreme audio
[20:34] <linuxprobie> technicallyrite: yes, he asked for a simple photo editor
[20:34] <technicallyrite> gimp is like a bastard stepchild of the grandaddy photoshop
[20:34] <Lcawte> err... how do I take a screenshot in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <linuxprobie> Lcawte: have you tried printscreen?
[20:34] <erUSUL> Lcawte: press the impr pant button
[20:35] <martinovich> can I try before installing?
[20:35] <erUSUL> Lcawte: print scr that's it ;P
[20:35] <technicallyrite> Any of you guys know anything about Jeos?
[20:35] <linuxprobie> martinovich: it's a free opensource program, you have to install it to try it...
[20:36] <martinovich> thanks I 'll try it gimp
[20:37] <erUSUL> !jeos
[20:37] <technicallyrite> ubottu: Have you used it?
[20:38] <inmanix> repair failed, im missing a dll for internet explorer in windows xp so im going to try a reinstall. now i formatted everything, installed xp, partitioned up and then install unbuntu. it wont affect my boot or do anything bad if i formatted my windows partition and reinstalled xp would it?
[20:39] <hcook> howdy
[20:39] <technicallyrite> inmanix: Formatted, yes. Erase and create new partition, no.
[20:39] <linkd> inmanix, itll overwrite your master boot record but you can easily restore that
[20:39] <inmanix> Great, so aslong as i work within the parameters of that partition, it doesnt matter what i do
[20:39] <inmanix> oh, so ill need to restore grub?
[20:39] <linkd> either with live cd or I think the windows CD in rescue mode has some tool to tinker with the mbr
[20:39] <geek1d> HELLO! guys I need your help just installed NVidia 220 and my sound stoped working aplay -l list nothing, lshw -c Sound list two devices my Internal card and now the NVIdia as sound card!
[20:39] <linkd> inmanix, most likely yeah
[20:39] <geek1d> How do I get this fixed
[20:39] <linkd> otherwise you're good to go
[20:40] <inmanix> if it misses this dll again
[20:40] <inmanix> ill kill someone
[20:40] <inmanix> i HATE installing windows
[20:41] <duffydack> when offered b43 and STA drivers for wireless, which one would be the best (yes I know !best )
[20:41] <hcook> does anybody know whether there's a panel app someplace (or even just a modification to the 'places' menu) that would allow you to "drill down" into the filesystem by mousing over stuff? Like, if the places menu just had > next to the items and then you'd mouse over and that directory would list out to the side?
[20:43] <erUSUL> hcook: no that i know of
[20:43] <cisco21c> How would I go about fixing this: "mountall: error while loading share libraries: /lib/libudev.so.0: cannot read file data: Input/output error
[20:43] <cisco21c> init: mountall main process (1075) terminated with status 127"
[20:43] <gerard1> p2000
[20:44] <Besogon> Does someone hear about TeX and "texi2dvi" script? I'v never used TeX.
[20:44] <geek1d> anybody please ?
[20:44] <oCean_> hcook: maybe something like this one? http://code.google.com/p/gnome-menu-file-browser-applet/
[20:45] <seevee> Are questions about rsync fair game on this channel?
[20:45] <nibbler> geek1d: i assume the nvidia has a soundmodule, too. so sound is output via this now. just change your sound preferecnes system->properties->sound
[20:45] <hcook> oCean_: yes! awesome thanks
[20:45] <nibbler> seevee: if its on ubuntu....
[20:46] <geek1d> nibbler, under output i ahve Dummy output only
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> eoo
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> ??
[20:46] <geek1d> aplay -l is ot listing any playback devices !!! nibbler
[20:46] <kanzie> I have no tried to download the isos from ubuntu.com three times, tried both the 32 and the 64-bit and burned on three different DVDs all three give me the same kernel can not be found message
[20:46] <inmanix> anyone know how best to format my ntfs partition without going into windows installer and deleting it?
[20:46] <kanzie> what's up with this?
[20:46] <ClaRiitaa> aii alguienn del vara de rey?? xD
[20:46] <seevee> nibbler: yes, well, is Mint close enough?
[20:46] <nibbler> geek1d: removing the nvidia changes back to old situation?
[20:46] <erUSUL> !es | ClaRiitaa
[20:46] <geek1d> nibbler, yea
[20:47] <erUSUL> inmanix: format to what ?
[20:47] <kanzie> can I not use DVDs? Does it have to be CD-R?
[20:47] <nibbler> geek1d: no idea then, sorry
[20:47] <bastid_raZor> kanzie: burn at the slowest speed possible.. 2x or 4x .. and you're getting the CD version right? 700MB or so?
[20:47] <geek1d> cheers
[20:47] <inmanix> i need to reinstall xp, corrupt installation
[20:47] <geek1d> anyone else ?
[20:47] <nibbler> kanzie: CD isos need to be burned to CDs i think
[20:47] <inmanix> so can i format the drive from ubuntu and reinstall?
[20:47] <inmanix> well, format the partition
[20:48] <kanzie> bastid_raZor: Im getting the 700 one
[20:48] <kanzie> doing md5 now
[20:48] <erUSUL> inmanix: just format it during XP install ?
[20:48] <kanzie> nibbler: but it boots though, I get to the "boot:"-prompt
[20:48] <inmanix> i dont get an option, i only get the delete option
[20:48] <mrfree> hi all
[20:48] <inmanix> and i was informed not to delete the partition, but just to formatr
[20:48] <qvark> hey guys, is anyone of you using the AWN manager?
[20:49] <mrfree> after the latest updates mouse wheel stoped working
[20:49] <kanzie> md5 checks out fine
[20:49] <mrfree> I'm using karmic
[20:49] <noXandOs> I need help sharing a whole drive with windows 7.
[20:50] <panfist_> is there any documentation related to administering a network of ubuntu workstations/servers?
[20:50] <James_-_> Ok I have a fresh install of 9.10, just enabled some video card drivers and it is updating as I type this, after the update I am going to reboot, once I am powered down I am going to connect 2 SATA drives that I want to mount one drive I want to mount at /storage/local and I want to format this drive, the second drive is full of data, I want to mount it at /storage/lts HOWEVER i do not want to format it, it is already formated ntfs and
[20:50] <James_-_> full of data... how do i do this?
[20:50] <inmanix> erUSUL: basically win xp install game me no option but to delete the partition for some reason, surely i can format from gparted and reboot, install xp
[20:51] <nibbler> kanzie: yea..... well.... and then you cant find the kernel
[20:51] <noXandOs> Can anyone help me share a drive on an ubuntu pc with a win 7 pc?
[20:51] <kanzie> nibbler: yep
[20:51] <erUSUL> James_-_: use gparted to format the drive you want to format.
[20:52] <seevee> What would the following give? sudo rsync -axuS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/user/Documents/path/. /home/user/Documents.
[20:52] <erUSUL> !fstab | James_-_
[20:52] <nibbler> kanzie: try a cdr
[20:52] <erUSUL> !samba | noXandOs
[20:52] <James_-_> erUSUL thanks I will read that and work with it at lest it is a starting point
[20:52] <noXandOs> thnksill give it a look
[20:55] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the live image?
[20:56] <zleap> not sure you mean on a live cd
[20:56] <linuxprobie> yah, I have it on a usb stick
[20:56] <linuxprobie> wanted to set it up as sort of a personalized mobile os I could take anywhere
[20:57] <oCean_> hcook: hah, just installed it myself, the drilldown is a nice option, one i did not think of before!
[20:57] <linuxprobie> but having it automatically login to a desktop with admin rights is counter-productive
[20:59] <eric_c_c> I just ran a successful 'make' on a makefile for a roguelike I'm trying to play.  Now when I try running the file I get "Segmentation Fault".
[20:59] <eric_c_c> When I try to run the default executable that shipped with the game, I get "command not found"
[21:00] <eshannon> hello everyone
[21:00] <eric_c_c> I'm so confused?
[21:00] <vad0r> is there some terminal irc program that i can try
[21:00] <erUSUL> vad0r: irssi
[21:00] <vad0r> that way i can just log back in and use screen
[21:00] <vad0r> k
[21:00] <jophish> I have noticed that for default configuration files in linux, they tend to start with a number, for example 00proxy or 05debian_theme. Why is this?
[21:01] <erUSUL> jophish: so they are ordered when you list them or walk them
[21:01] <Krzysiek> anyone know of an oracle IRC?
[21:01] <eric_c_c> Nobody has any ideas for me? :)
[21:01] <eshannon> is there any experts on 3ware 9500-12 cards?
[21:01] <jophish> ah, thanks erUSUL.
[21:02] <linkd> Krzysiek, #oracle?
[21:02] <erUSUL> Krzysiek: /msg alis list *oracle*
[21:04] <zzillezz> when i choose 'hardware drivers' from the administration menu, do they work with all kernel versions ?
[21:04] <pershian007> hi i have remove 2.6.31.14  in grub menu  // help me
[21:04] <erUSUL> zzillezz: with the ones suplied with ubuntu
[21:04] <zzillezz> i'm testing lucid alpha 2 and nvidia drivers don't seem to install properly
[21:04] <guntbert> !lucid | zzillezz
[21:04] <erUSUL> pershian007: remove the packages for that kernel
[21:04] <oCean_> zzillezz: channel #ubuntu+1
[21:04] <zzillezz> ok, sorry
[21:05] <Gadget3000> zzilezz: try using the binary drivers instead
[21:05] <Gadget3000> zzillezz: try using the binary drivers instead
[21:05] <pershian007> erUSUL i have edite grub list
[21:05] <Andria> do you know how can i have an animated wallpapers ? Thanks to you :)
[21:05] <handjob> Hi all. How can i change grub list ? The menu.lst is absent and /etc/defaults/grub is somewhat strange?
[21:06] <erUSUL> !grub2 | handjob
[21:06] <Gadget3000> handjob: you use grub.conf instead. I think its in /boot/grub
[21:06] <eric_c_c> why would running "sudo ./file_name.bin" produce "command not found" error?
[21:06] <pershian007> How can i change grub2 list ???
[21:06] <blakkheim> eric_c_c: chmod +x file_name.bin
[21:07] <erUSUL> eric_c_c: becouse the file has no +x set?
[21:07] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the livecd ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the livecd? (on UNR)
[21:07] <Gadget3000> eric_c_c: you need to do: sudo chmod +x filename.bin first
[21:07] <erUSUL> pershian007: the list is autogenerated;just tremove the kernels you do not use already
[21:07] <Matr|x> i have no sound in my pc any one can help me
[21:07] <blakkheim> !sound > Matr|x
[21:07] <handjob> Gadget3000, Yes there is grub.cfg and it starts with "#DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.."
[21:07] <oCean_> Gadget3000: pershian007 grub.cfg is NOT ment to be edited!
[21:08] <Andria> sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:08] <alabd> how to download dir content ? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/
[21:08] <oCean_> Andria: no!
[21:08] <Gadget3000> handjob: be careful then. I would recommend just not removing anything and only editing it if you know what you are doing
[21:08] <eric_c_c> Thanks guys! What is an +x set?
[21:08] <oCean_> pershian007: read the link ubottu send you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:08] <blakkheim> eric_c_c: executable
[21:08] <Tweaksource> execution or search privileges
[21:09] <pershian007> erUSUL my list is 2.6.31.14 & 2.6.31.18 // How can i change  list ??? i have remove 2.6.31.14
[21:09] <handjob> Gadget3000, "It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig ..."
[21:09] <gerard1> 192.168.35.3
[21:09] <Gadget3000> handjob: why do you need to edit it?
[21:09] <thc_flow> hey guys, how to instal kernel 2.4.x form sources with SELinux?
[21:09] <uorygl> Ello. When I tried to boot into Ubuntu for the second time, it informed me that it could not mount the root filesystem, and gave me a root terminal so I could try to fix the problem. Strangely enough, in the root terminal, the root filesystem appeared to be mounted just fine.
[21:09] <handjob> Gadget3000, Why do You ask?
[21:09] <erUSUL> pershian007: again: remove the kernels you do not use. You can use synaptic. search for linux-image
[21:09] <erUSUL> !synaptic | pershian007
[21:10] <Gadget3000> handjob: because it may be best to find and alternate solution and not editing grub.cfg
[21:10] <vad0r> how can i setup screen to work
[21:10] <blakkheim> vad0r: man screen
[21:10] <handjob> Gadget3000, I need to change the order of listed distributions.
[21:10] <pershian007> erUSUL 10 Q
[21:10] <uorygl> I notice that in Palimpsest Disk Utility, the checkbox for that partition says it is not bootable. Might setting it to be bootable help?
[21:10] <Chris___> did the xorg.conf file move in 9.10? (On a mac)
[21:10] <thc_flow> anybody knows?
[21:10] <oCean_> handjob: read here on how to use grub2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:11] <erUSUL> thc_flow: 2.*4* !!!!?????
[21:11] <oCean_> thc_flow: 2.4 !?
[21:11] <bastid_raZor> vad0r: start screen by typing screen ..then run irssi .. when you want to leave and do soemthing else do not quit just close the terminal window.. when you return log back in and do a screen -x  (if only 1 instance of screen is running)
[21:11] <vad0r> ill try
[21:11] <thc_flow> erUSUL, oCean_ yeah
[21:11] <handjob> YES I BETTER USE WIKI.
[21:12] <erUSUL> thc_flow: there is no SELinux for such an ancient kernel
[21:12] <Gadget3000> handjob: JUst copy and paste what you want into the bottom section ('custom') and see if it works. If it does then remove the others. backup grub.cfg first
[21:12] <erUSUL> thc_flow: i doubt any modern distri can work with a 2.4 kernel
[21:12] <oCean_> thc_flow: also, there is no support for such an ancient kernel
[21:13] <erUSUL> thc_flow: like trying to run Aero/win7 gui in windows 98
[21:13] <uorygl> Eh, I guess I'll just reinstall. Should be easy enough.
[21:13] <vad0r> after i start screen i start irssi.  i usually hit ctrl z then d to detaach
[21:13] <uorygl> I hope the problem doesn't happen this time.
[21:13] <vad0r> ctrl z exits
[21:13] <uorygl> vad0r: to detach from screen, do ctrl-a then ctrl-d.
[21:13] <vad0r> that was on freebsd though w/ a custom screen file for dynamips
[21:13] <vad0r> so ctrl a is the default
[21:14] <vad0r> k
[21:14] <vad0r> got it
[21:14] <vad0r> thx alot
[21:14] <blakkheim> it's just ctrl+a+d
[21:14] <buttons840> this has happened to me several times; I boot and my wireless card isn't working; i "ps -ef | grep modprobe" and see that process 706 (let's say) is modprobe ndiswrapper; this process doesn't show upon successful boot; i then try "sudo kill -9 706" but this seems to do nothing, i cannot kill the process; why can't i kill the process and does anyone have any suggestions for larger problem, which is having to reboot at times to make
[21:14] <buttons840> the wireless card work?
[21:14] <blakkheim> you dont need ctrl+d
[21:14] <vad0r> \ exits etc
[21:14] <Chris___> did the xorg.conf file move in 9.10? (On a mac)
[21:14] <Roasted> Anybody ever notice in firefox on linux there are times when playing a youtube video I CANNOT fast forward it or exit the ads? Yet some other videos are fine?
[21:14] <uorygl> I always do C-a C-d; I guess C-a d also works.
[21:14] <erUSUL> Chris___: it may not be there; is not a must this days
[21:15] <blakkheim> Chris___: first of all, ubuntu is the same on "a mac" as any other computer from any other company. an apple computer is in no way different.
[21:15] <buttons840> Roasted, do you have trouble clicking on buttons and other interactive things in flash windows
[21:15] <buttons840> ?
[21:15] <blakkheim> Chris___: second of all, xorg (with hal) doesn't always need an xorg.conf
[21:15] <Chris___> right. well. there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[21:15]  * linuxprobie finds self mesmerized by the hypertorus screensaver while waiting for someone to read and help with login issue *
[21:15] <erUSUL> Chris___: if one is present it is followed bu Xorg autoconfigres itself
[21:15] <ben2000677> hi again! probably going to buy the eee pc 1000H, was just wondering if anyone's got any problems with it
[21:15] <Roasted> buttons840, not that I've noticed. The only flash thing I tend to use heavily is youtube.
[21:15] <Tweaksource> Anyone here use fluxbox?
[21:15] <blakkheim> ben2000677: works fine, but why such an old model?
[21:15] <Roasted> buttons840, its weird. Theres a particular jimi hendrix video I CANNOT fast forward. Yet if I go to a song by Gavin Rossdale - its fine....
[21:15] <Chris___> where should I look for the configuration files then? I need to adda line to preserve battery life
[21:15] <ben2000677> what would you recommend
[21:15] <ben2000677> and its on ebay for like 140
[21:16] <ben2000677> #140
[21:16] <ben2000677> GBP
[21:16] <erUSUL> Chris___: create one
[21:16] <buttons840> Roasted, i don't know then, i had some trouble with flash where i couldn't press the play button, or interact with the video controls
[21:16] <linuxprobie> Roasted: then it's a problem with the file, not your computer
[21:16] <Roasted> buttons840, not only that, but its a real PITA when I select "remember password" and "stay logged in" and it doesnt.
[21:16] <blakkheim> ben2000677: the 1201n for 12inch, the 1005ha for 10inch
[21:16] <KenBW2> how do i rsync the contents of one folder to a folder of a different name, like ~/folder1 to ~/folder2
[21:16] <vad0r> what do i do to enable ssh
[21:16] <Roasted> linuxprobie, let me fire up my XP rig and see if it happens there too.... Im kinda doubtful it will though
[21:16] <nibbler> buttons840: seems to get stuck while loading the module... maybe blacklist it,and load manually for betterdebug options?
[21:16] <blakkheim> vad0r: install and configure it
[21:16] <erUSUL> !sshd | vad0r
[21:16] <pershian007> i have download updaate package in offline in windose / help me ?
[21:16] <nibbler> vad0r: aptitude install openssh-server (or so)
[21:16] <Like> KenBW2,  u need too clean # or ~
[21:17] <vad0r> its not on by default
[21:17] <Like> 3 or 4 delevel ;)
[21:17] <Tweaksource> Kenbw2 make symbolis link
[21:17] <buttons840> nibbler, i'm more interesting in the fact that sudo kill -9 is unable to end the process?   how can i tell what processes simply cannot be killed?
[21:17] <akujma> q
[21:17] <KenBW2> Like: i dont understand
[21:17] <akujma> й
[21:17] <erUSUL> buttons840: zombie processes can not be killed. the ones that are i D state iirc
[21:18] <ben2000677> blakkheim: thats beyond my budget, I just want something to get uused to the linux OS
[21:18] <KenBW2> Tweaksource: that was just an example, im actually syncing to another server
[21:18] <guntbert> erUSUL: isn't D "uninterruptible sleep"?
[21:18] <blakkheim> ben2000677: dunno what to tell you then bro
[21:18] <pershian007> i have download updaate package in windose / help me ?
[21:18] <blakkheim> ben2000677: why not use the computer you're on now?
[21:18] <akujma> долбоебы
[21:18] <ben2000677> I am
[21:18] <erUSUL> guntbert: yes could be
[21:18] <akujma> русские есть?
[21:18] <ben2000677> but I want  to travel around a bit
[21:18] <adb_monster> hello people
[21:18] <Tweaksource> Ah...my bad
[21:18] <guntbert> !ru | akujma
[21:18] <Like> ok if you are under root KenBW2  the folder options default created by the order # 3 more close in keiboard as ~ who are you home iff you dont su?
[21:19] <akujma> хуясе
[21:19] <ben2000677> does the MSI wind or acer aspire one compare in any way?
[21:19] <erUSUL> !ot | ben2000677
[21:19] <blakkheim> ben2000677: they're both older and work fine with linux. why don't you just use your current computer?
[21:19] <linuxprobie> Is there an easy way I can disable the ubuntu autologin without having to rebuild the live image?
[21:20] <Roasted> linuxprobie, I can fast forward ti fine in XP - not in linux though.
[21:20] <ben2000677> because I plan on travelling around
[21:20] <Roasted> linuxprobie, even selecting "replay" after the video is done doesnt work
[21:20] <ben2000677> need a laptop or netbook that will ruun ubuntu good
[21:20] <linuxprobie> Roasted: odd
[21:20] <KenBW2> ben2000677: Dell Mini 9 works really well with Ubuntu
[21:20] <erUSUL> Roasted: there is known bug with flash + compiz. some flash controls do not work
[21:20] <pilif12p> yes, they do
[21:20] <pilif12p> i'm on one now :)
[21:20] <Roasted> erUSUL, let me disable compiz...
[21:21] <Roasted> now docky disappeared
[21:21] <Roasted> DAFJSKDJFKLASDFKLASD
[21:21] <erUSUL> Roasted: probably it depends on compositting provided by compiz
[21:21] <linuxprobie> dunno then
[21:22] <linuxprobie> ben2000677: just about any laptop will run ubuntu just fine. there are specific builds that are more geared towards specialized purposes, but just the other day I got UNR installed on an old PII satetelite
[21:22] <Roasted> oh
[21:22] <Roasted> great
[21:22] <Roasted> thats awesome
[21:22] <jolaren> On my ion asrock 330 I've installed the latest nvidia drivers, i've set my gpu to 512mb in bios and i've set xbmc to play with vdpau.. Why does 1080p lag?
[21:22] <Roasted> erUSUL, look at that. I can fast forward now.
[21:22] <Roasted> erUSUL, maybe its time I switch to awn or something. does awn require compositing?
[21:22] <linuxprobie> I'm actually on a dell mini9 as well.
[21:22] <erUSUL> !yay | Roasted
[21:22] <erUSUL> Roasted: dunno; sorry
[21:23] <ben2000677> isn't the mini 10 supposed to be newer and better?
[21:23] <heoa> how do you use "rsync --append"?
[21:23] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: possibly look into cairo-dock. you can use it without compisiting
[21:23] <oCean_> ben2000677: linuxprobie Please stop with the offtopic talk, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue
[21:23] <Roasted>  bastid_raZor last time I used cairo dock, I hated it. Does it still feel like its in alpha stage, or has it gotten better?
[21:23] <guntbert> ben2000677: please stay on topic - ubuntu support
[21:24] <jellow> need
[21:24] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: i've been using it almost 2 years.. on all 3 of my boxes.
[21:24] <guntbert> ben2000677: sorry - no double warning needed :)
[21:24] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead...
[21:24] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, I had it on 3 of my boxes... and all 3 had different issues. Does the control panel look any better by now?
[21:24] <linuxprobie> Roasted: maybe your linux just doesn't like Jimi Hendrix...
[21:25] <Roasted> linuxprobie, once I disable compiz, its fine.
[21:25] <Roasted> but docky needs compiz, whcih is a problem
[21:25] <Roasted> installing cairo dock now...
[21:25] <eshannon> is there any experts on 3ware 9500s-12 cards?
[21:25] <chrisd_> Hi, is there anyway way to increase the audio buffer size in 9.10?
[21:26] <linuxprobie> Ok... Livecd installed to usb. Want disable autologin and ask for password. How to accomplish this?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> hi, i have three questions,
[21:26] <nuaimat1> can i upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 32-bit to 9.10 64-bit?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> what will i loose or get ? can i still run  all my currently installed apps after upgrade ?
[21:26] <nuaimat1> is it true that if there's an application that runs under 32-bit will not necessarily run under 64 ?
[21:26] <FloodBot1> nuaimat1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead...
[21:26] <oCean_> nuaimat1: nope, fresh install
[21:26] <elbanna> hiiiiiii
[21:27] <nightfrog> nuaimat1: save yourself the hassle and do a fresh install
[21:27] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, how do I get cairo to move horizontally?
[21:27] <James_-_> erUSUL ok everything is formated the way I want and currently not mounted... I guess I don't understand the fstab syntax for the first one '/dev/sdc1' how do I set it to auto mount on boot?
[21:27] <nuaimat1> nightfrog: what about q2 and q3 ?
[21:27] <nuaimat1> oCean_: what about q2 and q3 ?
[21:27] <vad0r_> why is my command not working to change nick in irssi
[21:27] <Xcell> which do i use to convert mp3 to ac3   ?
[21:28] <zleap> vad0r, when you try it does the server tab tell you anything
[21:28] <nightfrog> vad0r_: look in the status window for an error
[21:28] <jellow> vad0r_:  /nick
[21:28] <Threetimes> Hi, karmic won't go into standby. It shows the screensaver instead!
[21:28] <vad0r_> thats what i was doing
[21:28] <vad0r_> hmm
[21:28] <oCean_> nuaimat1: well q2: don't upgrade, reinstall. q3: sources are compiled for 32 or 64 bit architecture...
[21:29] <nuaimat1> oCean_: does that mean it won't find a 64 bit version of all my preferred apps ?
[21:29] <vad0r_> lol how do i get back to status window
[21:29] <vad0r_> ive never used irssi
[21:29] <nightfrog> alt 1
[21:29] <Slart> vad0r_: ALT+1
[21:29] <James_-_> everything is formated the way I want and currently not mounted... I guess I don't understand the fstab syntax for the first one '/dev/sdc1' how do I set it to auto mount on boot?
[21:29] <endlesswonder> i know this is off topic, but perhaps there is a quick one line answer to this:  is there a NonStop Plane Flight tomorrow less than $300 to anywhere in California (ideally Southern like Palm Springs, Los Angeles, Orange county, Santa Ana) ???
[21:29] <alabd> how to download just .ipk files in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/ ?
[21:29] <nightfrog> vad0r_: or alt + left and right arrow
[21:29] <oCean_> nuaimat1: you will in the repositories. The packagesources are compiled for both architectures, so they are available for both architectures
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi  vad0r_ this is a good site
[21:30] <vad0r_> what is the command to change nick and identify
[21:30] <vad0r_> i usually change then do it
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> Roasted: cairo-dock has many many options to dig through. there is a #cairo-dock channel
[21:30] <nuaimat1> oCean_: thanks, but just one last question , can i install both 32 and 64 architectures on same box and dual boot ?
[21:30] <endlesswonder> SunCountry from Minneapolis, MN to Palm Springs, CA is $230 (after taxes) but leaves today, and there is No Tomorrow departure
[21:30] <guntbert> vad0r_: /nick newnick
[21:30] <endlesswonder> !!!!!!!!!
[21:30] <oCean_> nuaimat1: sure
[21:30] <Roasted> bastid_raZor, yeah. I see that. I see I have a ton of customizing to do so its not so... eh
[21:30] <vad0r_> i kno wthat
[21:30] <nuaimat1> oCean_: thank you so much
[21:30] <guntbert> !ot | endlesswonder
[21:30] <vad0r_> it wont let me change it because it is registered
[21:30] <vad0r_> which i have the password
[21:31] <oCean_> vad0r_: ask in #freenode please
[21:31] <vad0r_> dont i changed to it first before i identify
[21:31] <vad0r_> the command is /msg nickserv identify password
[21:31] <endlesswonder> will if ANYONE does know, a private message to me would be great!
[21:31] <endlesswonder> thanks, i'll try that channel
[21:31] <guntbert> vad0r_: ask in #freenode
[21:32] <Glaucous> Hello people. I have Ubuntu 9.10, and I need a software to create a proxy. I'm going to use the proxy via the internet from school and such.
[21:32] <kaffien> is it possibel to install mysql-server-4.1 on  ubuntu 9.04 / 9.10?
[21:32] <Glaucous> Any user-friendly alternative?
[21:32] <guntbert> Glaucous: web prxy
[21:32] <guntbert> sorry
[21:33] <Roasted> well, eff. AWN and Docky both require compositing to run.
[21:33] <Roasted> sigh...
[21:33] <blakkheim> Glaucous: use ssh
[21:33] <Glaucous> Like Putty? Or maybe that's only Windows.
[21:33] <octet> hey, can someone help me with a torrent program? the default program (transmission) from the ubuntu install takeing too much resources while downloading more then 5 torrents
[21:33] <gmendoza> Glaucous: if you're going to use the schools proxy... you don't need to install a proxy of your own.  You just need to chage your proxy client settings...
[21:33] <blakkheim> Glaucous: you don't need putty, just use ssh from the commandline
[21:33] <Geforce88> is t here a way on 9.10 to convert .mkv to a burnable dvd  iso?
[21:33] <guntbert> Glaucous: web proxy? take a look at squid - but be *careful* not to have an open proxy
[21:33] <blakkheim> octet: try rtorrent
[21:33] <octet> thanks
[21:34] <gmendoza> I love how people get about 10 diff answers.  hehe.
[21:34] <Glaucous> What I need is to use a proxy on port 80, which is open in the school firewall. And then redirect all traffic to that proxy.
[21:34] <Slart> Geforce88: try devede
[21:34] <devendra> octet, ktorrent too
[21:35] <guntbert> gmendoza: obviously the question was ambiguous
[21:35] <gmendoza> guntbert: no doubt.
[21:35] <guntbert> gmendoza: :)
[21:35] <Geforce88> slart, is works with mkv files?
[21:36] <Slart> Geforce88: I'm not sure.. give it a try
[21:36] <Geforce88> slart, i know k3b ( my personal fav burning software) doesn't
[21:37] <mneptok> Geforce88: Devede is what you want.
[21:37] <mneptok> Geforce88: i know for a fact it works with Matroska video.
[21:38] <KenBW2> does scp copy files regardless of whether there's been a change or not?
[21:38] <Glaucous> With SSH, will I be able to redirect all the traffic on my Ubuntu computer at school to that SSH server?
[21:38] <coordinador> join #ltsp
[21:39] <Geforce88> mneptok, all i want is a burner to take mkv to dvd disk in as few steps as possible
[21:40] <Trojaneyez> #linux
[21:40] <gmendoza> Geforce88: you can also convert just about any video to a DVD format with ffmpeg and mencoder.  ffmpeg syntax is very straight forward.  check this link: http://savvyadmin.com/convert-video-files-to-dvd/
[21:41] <coordinador>  hi, i have a problem, im chrooted and when i want to install anything with apt-get i get "keytool: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so:"  and "error adding mozilla 'something' " like "error adding mozilla/GeoTrust_Global_CA_2.crt"
[21:41] <gmendoza> there may be some need to adjust various settings depending on source aspect ratios, frame rates, etc... but it's pretty easy.
[21:42] <neutrinomass> Hi. I'm thinking of buying a usb audio interface me to do some music recording. Presumably, there will be no Linux drivers for this so I intend to run it through VirtualBox on Windows. Will the virtualisation introduce latency? Thanks
[21:42] <nuckable> hey everyone, i'm having problems compiling a driver for my nic
[21:42] <kanzie> alright, trying to install ubuntu now, stuck at partition. I have XP and Ubuntu8 on the machine alreay. I wanted to remove the XP and use that space but when I click speciufy partitions manuall nothing happens
[21:42] <nuckable> it tells me that there is no rule to make kernel/bounds.c
[21:42] <nuckable> or something like that
[21:43] <guntbert> neutrinomass: better answered in #vbox, I guess :)
[21:43] <gmendoza> Geforce88: also, check out tovid.... it's a front end script in the reposositories that takes a ton of work out of the process as well.
[21:43] <guntbert> !compile | nuckable did you see
[21:43] <palanthas> I am sure I will kick myself when I here the answer but, how do I figure out what my workgroup is in ubuntu? (used to know how...)
[21:43] <nuckable> guntbert, thanks, will look into it
[21:43] <neutrinomass> guntbert: I'll give that a go, thanks.
[21:44] <kanzie> can I at least look at the contents of the partitions while in installation? I have jumped to shell ctrl-alt-f3, do I mount here?
[21:44] <gmendoza> Geforce88: tovidgui is a front end to tovid as well, which makes the whole thing fairly transparent.
[21:44] <suigeneris> palanthas smb.conf
[21:44] <mahmut> selam
[21:45] <suigeneris> !tr | mahmut
[21:45] <palanthas> suigeneris, thankyou
[21:45] <mahmut> türk varmı içinizde
[21:45] <nullp0inter> i am trying to dual boot off of windows 7..and i currently want to use my gparted live cd to make a partition...it wont boot though and i chedked the order in the bios..anythign i can do?
[21:46] <cyberix> I'm trying to write text in latex. I'd need either \AAcht or \twonotes character.
[21:46] <cyberix> How am I supposed to figure out which packages I need to install?
[21:47] <cyberix> Is it enough to have the correct Ubuntu packages installed, or do I need to include definitions for the symbols to my source file somehow?
[21:47] <zleap> have a look at symbols.pdf that tells you
[21:47] <nuckable> guntbert, i got me the build-essential and automake and it still won't compile
[21:48] <guntbert> nuckable: you must read and follow the README and INSTALL files
[21:48] <pfifo> quote from /boot/grub/grub.cfg "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" wtf? Its booting the wrong install by default!
[21:48] <cyberix> zleap: It says wasysym Musical Symbols
[21:48] <spiritssight> how do I fix broken dep?
[21:48] <nuckable> guntbert, i did, README says to type make all :P
[21:48] <jrib> !grub2 | pfifo
[21:49] <spiritssight> I am trying to update and its saying some thing about broken dep?
[21:49] <jrib> spiritssight: pastebin exactly what you are doing and the full output
[21:49] <zleap> cyberix, i am not sure where my pdf files are for latex /lyx are right now
[21:49] <guntbert> nuckable: sorry, I'm about to leave - but when you ask the channel again you might want to !pastebin the output of your attempt
[21:49] <trism> pfifo: if you want to change the default, edit /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub;
[21:49] <zleap> on a flashdrive somewhree
[21:49] <Geforce88> btw any developers of 9.10 here? just wanted to say 9.10 is the BEST release ever!
[21:49] <daguz> I cant get ubuntu to boot from a pxe boot.  I've got 9.10.   It cant find root.  On the options I'm trying to go http and not nfs (the example said to put root=/dev/nfs).
[21:49] <daguz> what root should I put?
[21:49] <localh0st> Geforce88: :D
[21:50] <nuckable> guntbert, sadly i'm using the german version, so people won't have much more of a clue
[21:50] <localh0st> why do you think so?
[21:50] <nuckable> it says no rules to make kernel/bounds.c
[21:50] <trism> pfifo: you can set GRUB_DEFAULT either to the number of the entry you want to boot or the name of the entry (useful if you want to boot something other than the first entry)
[21:50] <frenzy_usa_> Has anyone used QuickBooks Pro in a virtual machine?
[21:51] <guntbert> nuckable: are you certain that you don't need to run ./configure ?
[21:51] <sysdoc> yup
[21:51] <Geforce88> localh0st, to be honest, this 64 bit version is FAST. stable and i love the new configurless Xservernow. and it's nice to have everything work 'out of the box'
[21:51] <SiC> anyone in here with a dell color laser?
[21:51] <nuckable> guntbert, 100%
[21:51] <nuckable> i'm trying to compile a driver
[21:51] <palanthas> I have to hard drives that do not mount upon login. I must manually double-click the drives in Places and enter my password before they are mounted and the other PCs on the network can see them. How do I get them to mount automatically?
[21:51] <Slart> SiC: checked www.linuxprinting.org ?
[21:51] <SiC> yea Slart
[21:51] <Geforce88> so kudos. to you and your team
[21:51] <SiC> no luck
[21:51] <nuckable> but i think i need the kernel sources
[21:51] <nuckable> =/
[21:51] <SiC> checked the error.log too
[21:51] <localh0st> Geforce88: hm, nice. i'm using ubuntu ocasionally, only when my windows is crashed ;d
[21:51] <Slart> !fstab | palanthas
[21:51] <nibbler> !fstab | palanthas
[21:51] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d9233c79
[21:52] <SiC> all the print jobs are getting stuck as "processing"
[21:52] <jrib> spiritssight: why are you running update-manager -d?
[21:52] <SiC> only with my color dell though, all hp printers seem fine
[21:52] <Geforce88> localh0st, i use linux only always. i have a windows 7 64 bit prof. install i dual boot with 9.10, but, to be honest, 9.10 boots up in a fourth of the time
[21:52] <palanthas> Thanks Slart, ubottu, and nibbler!
[21:52] <pfifo> trism, No, I want the first entry to boot, i want to order the entries differently, right now it has ubuntu-ja listed first then XP then ubuntu-en, i want it listed ubuntu-en, ubuntu-ja and lastly XP
[21:53] <phil_fl> nuckable: have you donwloaded the kernel source ?
[21:53] <nuckable> phil_fl, i'm trying to, but i fail at it :P
[21:53] <spiritssight> jrib: Doing a upgrade from 8.10 to latest
[21:53] <localh0st> Geforce88: im using sleep mode in my windows, so it start up faster than ubuntu
[21:53] <localh0st> :P
[21:53] <jrib> spiritssight: you don't run update-manage -d for that
[21:53] <jrib> !upgrade > spiritssight
[21:53] <phil_fl> nuckable: cd /usr/src and then sudo tar -xvjf your linux source
[21:54] <Geforce88> localh0st, cold boot for windows takes 4X as long as cold boot of 9.10
[21:54] <nuckable> i just tried doing sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.31-17-server.tar.bz2
[21:54] <nuckable> didn't work
[21:54] <Geforce88> localh0st,  that's timed, btw. :)
[21:54] <jrib> nuckable: well first, /why/ are you doing that?  And second, what does "didn't work" mean?
[21:54] <trism> pfifo: unfortuately that isn't exactly straightforward with grub2, unless you manually edit grub.cfg, but if you do, you will have to manually edit it again every kernel/grub update
[21:54] <phil_fl> nuckable: what does it means it doesn't work do you have an error message ?
[21:55] <nuckable> jrib, i'm doing it because my nic is messing around and i'm trying to install the official drivers from asus, but i need to compile them and the compiler is telling me that kernel.c file is missing
[21:55] <jrib> nuckable: you should just need linux-headers from the repositories
[21:55] <pfifo> thats crappy!!!
[21:55] <nuckable> (i'm translating this) it can't open because the file doesn't exist
[21:55] <LoOoD> what is the default kernel.shmmax value?
[21:55]  * pfifo is unhappy with ubuntu atm
[21:56] <nuckable> jrib, thanks for the info, so how do i get those?
[21:56] <jrib> !software | nuckable
[21:56] <SiC> any cups expert folk in here?
[21:56] <nuckable> jrib, to be honest i'm using ubuntu server :P
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: doesn't matter
[21:57] <phil_fl> LoOoD: sysctl kernel.shmmax
[21:57] <nuckable> so what did you try to tell me then?
[21:57] <nuckable> i'm getting exactly this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047374
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: read the link from ubottu.  Obviously, you want to read the "command line" part if you are on the server
[21:57] <nuckable> but doing sudo tar ... doesn't work
[21:57] <LoOoD> phil_fl: I changed so and fotget the default value
[21:57] <nuckable> it can't find the file
[21:57] <vlt> !anyone | SiC
[21:57] <jrib> nuckable: did ubottu's link say anything about sudo tar?
[21:58] <SiC> i did ubottu
[21:58] <SiC> no response
[21:58] <SiC> lol
[21:58] <nuckable> jrib, nope
[21:58] <phil_fl> LoOoD 33554432
[21:58] <SiC> i was wondering if anyone had any knowledge with dell lasers with cups
[21:58] <nuckable> but it also didn't say anything about kernel headers
[21:58] <phil_fl> LoOoD, 32MB
[21:58] <LoOoD> thanks!
[21:58] <jrib> nuckable: you want to install the linux-headers PACKAGE.  ubottu tells you how to do this
[21:59] <LjL> nuckable: he told you to install the package "linux-headers". the link explains how to install a package.
[22:00] <spiritssight> jrib: when i do it from update manager in UI it says upgrade partilite then it quits that when I ran the cmd that I showed u so what do I need to fix the dependceys ?
[22:00] <jrib> spiritssight: "partilite"?
[22:00] <noXandOs> I am going crazy I am only trying to share a drive via samba. I used to be able to at least see the ubuntu pc in My Network now I can't even see it.
[22:00] <nuckable> it tells me that linux-headers-2.6.31-17-server is already the newest version
[22:01] <jrib> nuckable: good, then it's already installed
[22:01] <nuckable> great...
[22:01] <spiritssight> jrib partial oops
[22:01] <teage> were can i find the folder that holds the background images in ubuntu karmic?
[22:01] <wish^> does openoffice support my olf office documents?
[22:01] <rek> what will i have if i get sudo apt get install kde?
[22:01] <rek> kde 3 ?
[22:01] <kaolbrec> wish^: yes, although it does change the font sometimes
[22:01] <nuckable> still getting the same error
[22:02] <nuckable> D=
[22:02] <imachine> hello
[22:02] <prizm> quick problem
[22:02] <kaolbrec> rek: afaik it's kde 4
[22:02] <prizm> installed Xubuntu, then lxde on top
[22:02] <prizm> started lxde
[22:02] <imachine> I have new user new install, upon first login I was asked about two actions requiring my notice- non full language support and request for password to encrypt home dir
[22:02] <wish^> change the font sometimes, ? but will it open all my documents so i can read em?
[22:02] <jrib> spiritssight: is your system up to date?  i.e. run updates
[22:02] <imachine> I have clicked 'next' and they're gone now
[22:02] <prizm> and firefox/ping/lynx doesn't connect to the net - xce does
[22:02] <Al7ooooot> any one from palestine ?
[22:02] <prizm> *xfce
[22:02] <imachine> how can I invoke those questions again ?
[22:02] <rek> afaik = = ?
[22:03] <imachine> rek, as far as i know
[22:03] <jrib> rek: as far as i know
[22:03] <imachine> :) heh
[22:03] <rek> jrib  no automount with kde
[22:03] <CAPcap> I accidentally removed my volume control from my panel, how do i get it back?
[22:03] <kaolbrec> wish^: it doesn't have all the same fonts that you might have had in windows. You can usually install them though. It just swaps out the font of bits it doesn't have the "right" font for.
[22:03] <jrib> CAPcap: right click -> add to panel
[22:03] <kaolbrec> rek: As Far As I Know
[22:03] <jrib> nuckable: you have to follow directions given to you by asus
[22:03] <prizm> hello, anyone answer me?
[22:04] <CAPcap> jrib i dont see it there thats why im asking
[22:04] <jrib> prizm: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:04] <jrib> CAPcap: should be there
[22:04] <nuckable> jrib, asus tells me to "make all"
[22:04] <phil_fl> rek, sudo apt-cache search kde
[22:04] <jrib> nuckable: really? That's the *only* documentation they give you?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, generally, you idnt remove the volume control
[22:04] <cisco21c> I get this error whenever I try to install Ubuntu: mountall: error while loading share libraries: /lib/libudev.so.0: cannot read file data: Input/output error. init: mountall main process (1075) terminated with status 127
[22:04] <spiritssight> jrib: that what I was trying to do first and that what I get when I go to admin then update manager
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, you removed the entire notifict ion area
[22:04] <wish^> but what about excel docs and powerpoint?
[22:04] <wish^> works fine?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, that's whatyou need to add
[22:04] <jrib> spiritssight: what is "that" in your sentence?
[22:04] <imachine> CAPcap, the notification area
[22:04] <nuckable> jrib, yup
[22:04] <Karpus> not exactly ubuntu specific, but I guess someone here knows: pidgin doesn't seem to have an icon, I'm running Docky and it shows a question mark as the pidgin icon... any way to fix that?
[22:04] <kaolbrec> wish^: it'l open them yes
[22:04] <jrib> nuckable: contact asus then
[22:04] <CAPcap> imachine thanks
[22:05] <imachine> np
[22:05] <militant> anyone use remote desktop viewer, ultravnc, or tightvnc to go from their ubuntu box to an XP box?
[22:05] <nuckable> jrib, thanks
[22:05] <wish^> and will the tables and cells work like they should?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, here
[22:05] <wish^> so i can edit as i want?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, what seems to be th problem?
[22:05] <imachine> I run ultravnc and teamviewer, without hassle
[22:05] <kaolbrec> wish^: Yes, In my experience.
[22:05] <militant> imachine, cool.  when you do so, does it typically log you out of or lock your existing XP session?
[22:05] <imachine> only as client tho
[22:05] <wish^> vmware?
[22:05] <spiritssight> jrib: update the system before upgrading verison
[22:05] <jrib> spiritssight: yes, have you done that?
[22:05] <imachine> militant, in ultravnc? dunno. but there's a setting for that in ultravnc server.
[22:05] <imachine> militant, check your server settings. not relevant to ubuntu imho.
[22:06] <noXandOs> great now the pc wont even boot
[22:06] <kaolbrec> wish^: was the "vmware?" question also directed at me?
[22:06] <militant> imachine, i thought there was, but i couldn't get it to stop doing it before.  and you're right, it's not really ubuntu-relevant, but i thought i'd ask kuz #ubuntu seemed a likely place to find someone who uses the stuff
[22:06] <senorpedro> hi folks
[22:06] <imachine> there's an option deliberately called "do not log off or lock on last client"
[22:06] <imachine> or something like that
[22:06] <imachine> go check.
[22:06] <senorpedro> does anybody know where i can get a wordlist with german substantives?
[22:06] <CAPcap> imachine i removed it because it was showing two but only 1 was doing something so i tried to get rid of the one that appeared useless, what was happening as i can now see is that for some reason it was displaying a volume icon instead of a wifi connection icon.... so weird
[22:07] <militant> k.  i think it didn't have that option or didn't work properly last time, but it's a fresh XP install now so we'll see.  thanks :)
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, it hiccups sometimes.
[22:07] <lightpriest> anyone's using NX and compiz?
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, don;t worry about it too much, should be gone on reboot or login/logout
[22:07] <CAPcap> imachine obviously :P
[22:07] <vlt> senorpedro: wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de (as I told you like a year ago ;-)
[22:07] <imachine> militant, cheers
[22:07] <soreau> lightpriest: Nope
[22:07] <spiritssight> jrib: it won't let me, I get the not all updates can be installed dialog, I click  do partial upgrade
[22:07] <CAPcap> oh its working fine now that i reloaded it :)
[22:07] <soreau> lightpriest: What is NX?
[22:07] <imachine> CAPcap, :)
[22:08] <imachine> I just got my X40 back online
[22:08] <lightpriest> NoMachine, neatx, FreeNX, etc.
[22:08] <jellow> I can't set up dual monitors Nvidia tool pick up the display but cannot save to Xorg.conf witht his error Failed to Phrase existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:08] <jrib> spiritssight: in a terminal: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade    and then pastebin
[22:08] <imachine> with a non-ibm branded network card
[22:08] <imachine> neat
[22:08] <imachine> ;p
[22:08] <lightpriest> compressed/proxied X server
[22:08] <senorpedro> vlt, you never told me that
[22:08] <imachine> it beats intel iw2100 that's for sure
[22:08] <imachine> so, any ideas aout my issue?
[22:08] <imachine> about those question windows, not coming back up ?
[22:09] <imachine> or will they, eventually ?
[22:09] <lightpriest> i got a problem that windows that are loaded using NoMachine's client are getting dark (like they're not responding)
[22:09] <imachine> I'm guessing they should continue to biug me
[22:09] <VCoolio> jellow: did you run the nvidia tool with gksudo? you need root permissions to write to xorg.conf
[22:09] <ikonia> lightpriest: nomachine ?
[22:09] <lightpriest> you know NoMachine?
[22:09] <lightpriest> NX, smt? ;p
[22:09] <ikonia> ahh NX
[22:10] <ikonia> no,
[22:10] <nicanor5> hello, i have a problem while trying to set up a multi boot system, I did the proper partitioning with GParted distro (I have a data only partition I don't want to lose) and then I installed Windows XP, but now Linux can't recognize the partions
[22:10] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d5d53c81f
[22:10] <jellow> VCoolio, il try it one second
[22:10] <lightpriest> bahh, I'm trying to run eclipse remotely.. do you know a better way to do that?
[22:10] <jrib> spiritssight: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[22:10] <ikonia> nicanor5: define can't recognise the partition.
[22:10] <ikonia> nicanor5: what are you doing that makes you think it can't see the partitions
[22:11] <nicanor5> ikonia: it says unallocated
[22:11] <ikonia> lightpriest: NX is fine in my view
[22:11] <DasEi> nicanor5: which os did you istall in which order ?
[22:11] <lightpriest> yeah but windows are darkening :)
[22:11] <ikonia> nicanor5: then allocate the partitions
[22:11] <ikonia> lightpriest: disable compiz
[22:11] <lightpriest> ikonia: i guess I could do that
[22:11] <photocopy> Hello. I'm looking to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b. I don't have any idea how to install things from source, so I was looking for a .deb package or this game in the repositories and cannot find either. Anybody know where to find this/if it excists?
[22:11] <nicanor5> DasEi: I've only installed windows XP
[22:11] <jellow> VCoolio, what the exact name of Nvidia tool thingy?
[22:11] <lightpriest> ikonia: do you know how to manually start a NX session with SSH?
[22:11] <ikonia> nicanor5: then when you install ubuntu it will give you the option to partition (create your linux partitions)
[22:11] <VCoolio> jellow: hang on
[22:12] <ikonia> lightpriest: not off the top of my head
[22:12] <nicanor5> ikonia: that would delete my data partion
[22:12] <DasEi> nicanor5: so how Linux can(t) recognize it ?
[22:12] <lightpriest> ikonia: thank's, i'll disable compiz
[22:12] <VCoolio> jellow: try "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[22:12] <imachine> ikonia, you will probably now :)
[22:12] <ikonia> nicanor5: no, the space is unallocated
[22:12] <ikonia> imachine: what's up ?
[22:12] <nicanor5> DasEi: It recognizes the full disk but not the partitions in it
[22:13] <ikonia> nicanor5: then there are no partitions on it beyond your windows one
[22:13] <imachine> ikonia, can you give me a hint? I installed fresh 9.10, setup encrypted home dir and all. upon initial login, two "important notifications" windows popped up, asking me to setup the encrypted home password, and to install missing language support
[22:13] <vlt> Hello. I want to record a small video clip using my webcam (v4l2 /dev/video0) and microphone in. What tool can I use on Ubuntu?
[22:13] <kalakouentin> e
[22:13] <nicanor5> ikonia: but when I boot windows it recognizes the data partition
[22:13] <imachine> ikonia, I clicked next and nothing happened, the windows are gone, can I manually somehow bring them back up? I;d like to install language support and fully setup my encrypted home :)
[22:13] <ikonia> nicanor5: can you please boot to a linux livecd and do "sudo fdisk -l" then pastebin the results
[22:13] <kanzie> since all the partitions I have are full can I jump to shell and use fdisk to remove one and then use this space for installation in ubuntu installer?
[22:14] <ikonia> imachine: do they not come back when you boot ?
[22:14] <gmendoza> vlt: you can try cheese
[22:14] <imachine> ikonia, nope
[22:14] <flyguy97> I want to run a copy of lucid for testing my own packages, do I need to download a fresh copy of each of the alpha and beta iso
[22:14] <DasEi> kanzie: you can choose manual partition in installe menu
[22:14] <imachine> I can try once more but they didn't come back last time :p
[22:14] <imachine> brb
[22:14] <ikonia> imachine: that's frustrating, if you know/search for the package names, you can boot it a non-X display
[22:14] <kanzie> DasEi: I've tried, I click it but nothing happens
[22:14] <flyguy97> I want to run a copy of lucid for testing my own packages, do I need to download a fresh copy of each of the alpha and beta iso's or will it automatically upgrade to the latest?
[22:15] <DasEi> kanzie: hd mussnt be mounted
[22:15] <BinaryMan> is anyone here familiar with how initrd, luks/crytsetup work for full drive encryption?
[22:15] <kanzie> DasEi: only the bar below becomes all orange
[22:15] <LjL> flyguy97: it will upgrade, but better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:15] <vlt> gmendoza: How to save the captured video clip? How to setup video codec settings in cheese?
[22:15] <militant> imachine, oddly enough it works proper.  thanks, though i'm not sure why it's different this time around..
[22:15] <flyguy97> LjL: thanks
[22:15] <kaolbrec> !cheese | vlt
[22:15] <DasEi> kanzie forr whole disk you mean
[22:15] <photocopy> Can anybody help a bit of a newbie install something from source?
[22:16] <VCoolio> with karmic using upstart, is sysv-rc-config still the proper tool to manage runlevels? if no, what is?
[22:16] <spiritssight> jrib: u want to know the files that all start with sources.list correct?
[22:16] <ikonia> photocopy: what do you want to install
[22:16] <BinaryMan> photocopy: sure. what's up?
[22:16] <jrib> spiritssight: yes
[22:16] <ikonia> VCoolio: update-rc.d
[22:16] <DasEi> !compile | photocopy
[22:16] <nicanor5> ikonia: I just booted a livecd and all the partitions appear
[22:16] <LjL> photocopy: if the newbie gives us a good reason why they're installing stuff from source, perhaps :P
[22:16] <kanzie> DasEi: yep, the full extent of the disk is orange... and on top of the screen I have the same bar but iwth partitions in different colours
[22:16] <DrWolfen> Hi!  Lately I've been having an issue with my netbook using ubuntu 9.10.  After downloading and installing an update, I shut down my computer.  When I restarted it, my computer would load up past grub, show the ubuntu symbol for a couple seconds and then completely freeze.  After experiencing this, I tried running ubuntu in recovery mode, but I would get an error saying /sbin/init:error while loading shared libraries: /lib/l
[22:16] <DrWolfen> ibdus-1.so.3: only ET_DYN and ET_EXEC can be loaded, a lot of other text and then "*ERROR* panic occured, switching back to text console, and then the comptuer is frozen again.  I've tried going into the grub menu and booting from older kernels, but the same thing happens.  I've also tried reinstalling ubuntu through a live CD image in a USB stick and that has also been unsucessful.  Does anyone have any idea of what's wrong
[22:16] <gmendoza> vlt: cheese' options are very basic... just install and check available preferences.  You can always reencode the video after it's been taken if you want.  It won't help quality, but it's all up to you.
[22:16] <DrWolfen>  and what I should do?  I've scoured the depths of google and I'm stumped
[22:16] <FloodBot1> DrWolfen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <ikonia> nicanor5: so the partitions are there - what is not recognising the partitions ?
[22:16] <BinaryMan> LjL: probably because the program isn't in the ubuntu repo.
[22:16] <photocopy> LjL, DasEi, BinaryMan, ikonia, etc; I want to install Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and its not in the repos or in a .deb package as far as my searching yields.
[22:17] <ikonia> BinaryMan: let him answer then
[22:17] <kanzie> member:DasEi: yep, the full extent of the disk is orange... and on top of the screen I have the same bar but iwth partitions in different colours
[22:17] <DasEi> kanzie: for a standard install least need 2 partis, / and swap. ich you choose manual partition, can do so
[22:17] <nicanor5> ikonia: the old install (the one with the blue background) of another distro I want to install first
[22:17] <imachine> ikonia, nope, nothing on reboot
[22:17] <vlt> gmendoza: I already installed it. I can't find out how to finally sace the recorded video clip
[22:17] <LjL> BinaryMan: yeah that's possible, but i never assume that, because it often turns out to be a wrong assumption
[22:17] <vlt> gmendoza: *save
[22:17] <gmendoza> vlt... it's saved by default.
[22:17] <ikonia> nicanor5: you said you had only installed windows
[22:17] <DasEi> photocopy: foreign app, run as exe in
[22:17] <photocopy> LjL: turns out it isn't ^^ sorry
[22:17] <DasEi> !wine
[22:17] <kanzie> DasEi: yeah I know,only choosing manual doesn't give me the option to do anything
[22:17] <nicanor5> ikonia: i have only installed windows
[22:17] <gmendoza> vlt... once you record it shows up at the bottom of cheese.  The videos are available to play from there.
[22:17] <photocopy> DasEi: it has a native version for linux i thought
[22:18] <imachine> ikonia, it wasn't standard dpkg info windows, it was some other config stuff.
[22:18] <nicanor5> ikonia: i was about to install this other distro
[22:18] <ikonia> imachine: without knowing what packages it things are missing, not sure which ones woudl be correct to manually download
[22:18] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d1507bd9c
[22:18] <ikonia> nicanor5: then there is nothing to "not recgnise" your partitions
[22:18] <ikonia> nicanor5: other distros are not supported here
[22:18] <mneptok> DasEi: ET is a Linux app
[22:18] <jrib> spiritssight: I need teh actual contents...
[22:18] <mneptok> photocopy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[22:18] <imachine> ikonia, it's okay with the language support, it's the home dir I worry about
[22:18] <imachine> or, feel uneasy ;p
[22:18] <nicanor5> ikonia: thank you
[22:18] <jrib> spiritssight: just sources.list and anything in sources.list.d
[22:18] <gmendoza> vlt: they are stored in a local directory, which you can move using your file manager.
[22:18] <DasEi> mneptok: idk, tell photocopy
[22:18] <ikonia> imachine: I assume you can't use your home dir now as it's encypted ?
[22:18] <mneptok> DasEi: i just did.
[22:19] <DasEi> :)
[22:19] <LjL> photocopy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[22:19] <vlt> gmendoza: I only get icons here when using the "take photo" mode.  Do you know the name of the local folder?
[22:19] <CAPcap> lol @ marules exit
[22:19] <imachine> ikonia, using it as we speak
[22:19] <CAPcap> marcules*
[22:19] <photocopy> Ouf. alright, well, Ill try following what mneptok/LjL linked me to, but whenever i try and do something like this i always seem to mess it all up ^^
[22:19] <imachine> ikonia, but there's some password issue remaining to be setup
[22:19] <ikonia> imachine: did you have to decrypt / mount it manually
[22:19] <LjL> photocopy: if you're unsure about any step, ask
[22:19] <mneptok> photocopy: so do your gaming on a console as sane people do ;)
[22:20] <BinaryMan> photocopy: http://www.playdeb.net/software/Enemy%20Territory
[22:20] <DasEi> kanzie: hm, it should let you do that, the alternate installer has advanced options in partioning, but if you can choose whole disk, maual also should work
[22:20] <photocopy> mneptok: haha, a good friend of mine still plays this, and wants me to play
[22:20] <imachine> ikonia, like I said, I just skipped the windows
[22:20] <BinaryMan> photocopy: you'll proabably want to read http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install too
[22:20] <kanzie> DasEi: I got it now, stupid mistake on my part, not to familiar with UI :-)
[22:20] <LjL> photocopy: oh, if it's on playdeb, that might be a better idea. (yeah i googled a little too, but didn't hit playdeb)
[22:20] <ikonia> imachine: sorry, I didn't explain that clearly. to use /home do you have to manually unencrypt and mount it manually ?
[22:20] <kanzie> ext4.. wow, is it working well?
[22:20] <imachine> nope
[22:20] <DasEi> kanzie: y, got to choose before that window
[22:21] <ikonia> imachine: so it works fine as is ?
[22:21] <jellow> VCoolio, Still same error
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, the message in the window said that while it works, a password needs to be setup in case of an emergency recovery
[22:21] <kanzie> DasEi: and 1.5xRAM is good for SWAP?
[22:21] <BinaryMan> LjL: i used to play ET on Ubuntu. went through the whole hassle of getting it to work and used playdeb to get it.
[22:21] <ikonia> imachine: ahhh I see
[22:21] <imachine> currently if emergency occurs, I just loose data, that's what I would assume
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, anyway, I just want to trigger those mechanisms behind the windows
[22:21] <photocopy> BinaryMan: Are those links supposed to work? firefox says that type isnt associated with anything, it's called "apt" so i assume somehow its a link that tries to make apt automatically install it?
[22:21] <imachine> ikonia, sorry that I can't word the "window" any better
[22:22] <BinaryMan> i just needed google to find the link for it.
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: no, you'd have to decypt it manually
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: I know what you mean, it's fine
[22:22] <imachine> safe :)
[22:22] <BinaryMan> photocopy: did you read the second link I gave you?
[22:22] <BinaryMan> photocopy: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install
[22:22] <ikonia> imachine: as long as you know the password, you can decrypt it manually in an emergency
[22:22] <nicanor5> ikonia: it's me again, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04, and again the installation can't recognize the partitions, of my HD, the only option I get is: new partition table
[22:22] <imachine> ikonia, so, any clues as to how I might go on about launching those windows once more ?
[22:22] <photocopy> BinaryMan: oh okay oops
[22:22] <CAPcap> if i go to a site that has fonts that i could use for windows, how can i install them here?
[22:22] <imachine> ikonia, I'd still like that, ideally
[22:22] <CAPcap> windows u just drag and drop
[22:23] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to beleieve, if your sudo fdisk -l command shows it - it can see the partitions
[22:23] <LjL> !fonts > CAPcap    (CAPcap, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:23] <kanzie> DasEi: so I make / primary and swap logical then?
[22:23] <DasEi> kanzie: depends.. to hibenate double RAM, I dont use swap at all
[22:23] <trism> CAPcap: generally you can put them in ~/.fonts
[22:23] <BinaryMan> photocopy: When adding the deb address, replace karmic-getdeb to jaunty if your using jaunty, etc. If you're using karmic, you're all set.
[22:23] <ikonia> imachine: how do you know it doesn't want you to do that manually when you press next (I've never heard of a tool setting it up for you)
[22:23] <DasEi> kanzie no matter prim/log
[22:23] <CAPcap> thanls LjL and trism
[22:23] <spiritssight> jrib: here they are if its not what you wanted please explain on to obtain http://pastebin.com/d11ba83ae
[22:23] <Nz17> Everyone: Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu if the graphical installer keeps crashing and no other install discs are available?
[22:23] <nicanor5> ikonia: I'm surprised as you are, as I already said, the livecd and the fdisk -l see the partitions
[22:24] <dbruhn> Anyone in here make a usbkey installer for ubuntu not using the method of copying the iso to a disk
[22:24] <ikonia> Nz17: getting some more cd's and burning the alternative installer is a good idea
[22:24] <nicanor5> omitiendo la partición vacía (5)
[22:24] <nicanor5> Disco /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[22:24] <nicanor5> 255 cabezas, 63 sectores/pista, 19457 cilindros
[22:24] <nicanor5> Unidades = cilindros de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[22:24] <nicanor5> Identificador de disco: 0x0000d1c1
[22:24] <nicanor5> Disposit. Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
[22:24] <photocopy> shit. BinaryMan, im actually using linux mint 8 which is based on ubuntu 9.10 and uses all the same repos and stuff, do i use karmic-getdeb still?
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, no, there's two options, next and "launch this now"
[22:24] <FloodBot1> nicanor5: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:24] <Nz17> ikonia: I would if I could, but the person I'
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, ofcourse I had to click next ;)
[22:24] <DasEi> Nz17: checked cd for deects ?
[22:24] <ikonia> nicanor5: I suspect you're not reading the test clearly
[22:24] <ikonia> photocopy: control your lanaguage
[22:24] <imachine> ikonia, which took me to issue two, which was the languages missing
[22:24] <Nz17> ikonia: am helping is hundreds of miles away and has no disc.
[22:24] <imachine> but there was no 'back' button:)
[22:24] <ikonia> Nz17: he needs to go and buy some them
[22:24] <jrib> spiritssight: thanks.  Have you installed anything outside the repositories?
[22:25] <ikonia> imachine: it may just be "for your information" rather than a tool
[22:25] <dbruhn> ikonia, I can't seem to find an alternate intaller for what I need. I need 9.04 server
[22:25] <imachine> installing language support now.. only the disk issue stays fishy
[22:25] <Nz17> ikonia: That's not an option - no money and the nearest place is 20 miles away.
[22:25] <dbruhn> and I need to modify the initrd
[22:25] <dbruhn> for the intaller
[22:25] <imachine> ikonia, I'm pretty sure it's a tool, I've used it before 90%
[22:25] <ikonia> dbruhn: the server cd does not have an alternative installer, as it's a text based installer any way
[22:25] <nicanor5> ikonia: what do you mean?
[22:25] <DasEi> Nz17: install via usb ?
[22:25] <ikonia> imachine: ahh, I've never used it
[22:25] <ikonia> nicanor5: what partitioning option did you select, you should have multiple choices
[22:25] <imachine> ya, encrypted home sounds nice:)
[22:25] <imachine> specially on a laptop
[22:25] <dbruhn> oh sorry maybe I am in on a second conversation
[22:26] <BinaryMan> the server cd doesn't come with X or a window manager either, afaik. it's really intended for servers.
[22:26] <BinaryMan> thus, 'server' cd.
[22:26] <nicanor5> ikonia: I have installed ubuntu and other distros a lot of times, and never happened this before
[22:26] <imachine> there used to be an 'alternate' cd
[22:26] <imachine> or so
[22:26] <imachine> maybe that;s what he means
[22:26] <ikonia> imachine: there is
[22:26] <BinaryMan> imachine: except benchmarks on it show that it's murders disk read/write performance.
[22:26]  * imachine is not really paying attention, soz
[22:26] <ikonia> nicanor5: ok - so which partitioning option did you chose
[22:27] <imachine> :)
[22:27] <ikonia> imachine: just not for the server release
[22:27] <Nz17> ikonia: Turns out there was a defect with the CD.  Thanks anyway, guys.
[22:27] <nicanor5> ikonia: the only two options I get when I get to the partitioning part are: use all the disk and manually specify partitions
[22:27] <ikonia> Nz17: good find
[22:27] <imachine> brb
[22:27] <BinaryMan> and a lot of sensitive data is kept in swap, /opt, and /var
[22:27] <ikonia> nicanor5: and what happens when you select manual
[22:27] <photocopy> BinaryMan: I  went here and http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.04/?category=FPS#how_to_install installed the playdeb package but the install link still does the same thing. the browser isn't handling the command that link seems to be giving it. "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program." makes sense. What do I do?
[22:27] <BinaryMan> if you're going to bother with encryption, just go the full partition with LUKS route.
[22:27] <nicanor5> ikonia: the only active option is: new partition table
[22:28] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to accept
[22:28] <nicanor5> ikonia: as I told you, I'm as surprised as you
[22:28] <ikonia> nicanor5: the only other option is when you partitioned the disk it was no created properly
[22:29] <ikonia> nicanor5: try using the alternative CD that does not use gparted, see if that sees your partitions at install time
[22:29] <nicanor5> ikonia: yeah, I think that's the only option left
[22:29] <BinaryMan> photocopy: open up a terminal window and run 'sudo apt-get install apturl'
[22:29] <BinaryMan> if it's already install, great. if it's not, install it.
[22:29] <BinaryMan> and then tell firefox to open apt links with /usr/bin/apturl
[22:29] <jellow> I can't save my setting with Nvidia-tools i get this error "Failed to Phrase existing X config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Tried as root
[22:30] <nicanor5> ikonia: if by alternative you mean the install with the blue background, I've already tried that when trying to install the other distro
[22:30] <ikonia> jellow: how did you launch the tool
[22:30] <jellow> ikonia, gksudo
[22:30] <ikonia> nicanor5: I'm not interesed in the other distro's output -
[22:30] <ikonia> jellow: show me the output of "ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[22:31] <jellow> ikonia,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 225 2010-01-21 00:01 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:31] <BinaryMan> photocopy: if you're further interested, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[22:31] <ikonia> jellow: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old then try agai n
[22:31] <nicanor5> ikonia: ok, It appears the only option I have is to reformat the HD
[22:31] <ikonia> again
[22:31] <photocopy> BinaryMan; I installed apturl... what next?
[22:32] <ikonia> nicanor5: I find that hard to accept, did the ubuntu alternative installer pick it up ?
[22:32] <Fjordside> Does anyone know a tool for the gnome menu bar to show network dl/upload speed?
[22:32] <photocopy> BinaryMan: actually, im configing it as that second link you sent me says, ill tell you when im done or if i get stuck again
[22:33] <bastid_raZor> Fjordside: netspeed applet
[22:33] <trism> Fjordside: the system monitor applet will show that if you enable it in the properties
[22:33] <BinaryMan> photocopy: tell firefox to open apt links with /usr/bin/apturl
[22:33] <Fjordside> i want letters not graphs...
[22:33] <killaxxl> balls
[22:34] <BinaryMan> photocopy: then click the link again
[22:34] <bastid_raZor> Fjordside: netspeed gives numbers no graphs
[22:34] <seren> having a problem running apps via ssh
[22:34] <seren> last night everything was fine and dandy now I get this
[22:34] <seren> http://pastie.org/787319
[22:34] <jellow> ikonia, Now nice little pop up appears when i save it , Where should i save it?
[22:34] <Fjordside> bastid_raZor, thanks I will look at it
[22:34] <gmendoza> gnome-netstatus-applet appears to also do the same stuff... all sorts of options out there it appears.
[22:34] <acr0nym> hi
[22:34] <seren> wehere are nfs locks located?
[22:34] <ikonia> jellow: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:35] <ikonia> seren: normally in the root of the share
[22:35] <seren> there is nothing is /var/lock
[22:35] <jellow> ikonia, ok done i think
[22:35] <seren> ikonia: the weird thing is in not using any nfs shares
[22:35] <jellow> ikonia, thanks =)
[22:35] <ikonia> seren: what is the problem you're having ?
[22:35] <seren> http://pastie.org/787319
[22:35] <seren> ikonia: it only occus when I run a gnome app vis ssh
[22:35] <trism> Fjordside: it will give you numeric values if you hover the mouse over it (probably not what you want though)
[22:36] <n16h7f0x> i have a problem using kubuntu karmic on my hp dv6 1341 el  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)...have options snd_hda_intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=Y in modrpobe.d alsabase.conf and sonds hear like 50 percent like it should be all volume bars maxed
[22:36] <n16h7f0x> can anybody help me make my sound louder
[22:36] <ikonia> seren: tht's not an nfs problem
[22:36] <seren> ikonia: for example, nautilus, gedit, deluge
[22:36] <photocopy> BinaryMan: in the tutorial to setup apturl in firefox it says to add thigns to the about:config window. how do i add a new entry?
[22:36] <seren> ikonia: i figured i was just reading the error and assuming i think its dbus o gconf
[22:36] <ikonia> seren: dbus looks the most likley
[22:37] <seren> ikonia: everything is fine on the main x server
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: I think the remote X app is trying to create a dbus file on the local server
[22:37] <seren> ikonia: permissions?
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: possibly....
[22:37] <ikonia> seren: look at the file it's trying to use
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: doesnt exist
[22:38] <noXandOs> !samba
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: there is the problem then
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: and it appears it also can't create it
[22:38] <BinaryMan> photocopy: you don't need to.
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: should i touch it ?
[22:38] <DrWolfen> Hi!  I've been having trouble with getting Ubuntu 9.10 to boot.  Details are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/359790/  Does anyone have any idea of what the problem is or how to fix it?
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: are you running the X11 apps as root ?
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: no
[22:38] <BinaryMan> photocopy: just click on the link for enemy territory.
[22:38] <seren> ikonia: it seems /tmp is 777
[22:38] <ikonia> seren: ooh really
[22:39] <ikonia> seren: as the user your running them as, see if you can touch the file
[22:39] <photocopy> binaryman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL says i do and those install links still don't work even after i installed apturl
[22:39] <seren> ikonia: i can
[22:39] <ikonia> seren: odd, as that appears to be the issue
[22:39] <CAPcap> T_T I cant seem to figure out how to get the msttcorefonts
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: is 777 correct for /tmp?
[22:40] <jellow> I have a fat 32 partition though i can only mount it as root , How can non-root users access it
[22:40] <ikonia> seren: sure
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: i touched the file and it still says connection refused ot the same socket
[22:40] <savid> Does anyone know how to extract a .sitx file on ubuntu?
[22:40] <giemini> jellow: sudo
[22:40] <DasEi> jellow: own the mountdir to regular user
[22:40] <ikonia> seren: can you try a none-gnome app, such as xterm
[22:40] <seren> ikonia: i did and it works fine
[22:41] <seren> ikonia: the file i touched is rw-r--r
[22:41] <photocopy> BinaryMan: I added those things to about:config and it appears to have worked. ET is installing now.
[22:41] <seren> should i chmod it ?
[22:41] <ikonia> seren: ok so I'm guessing it's the remote gnome file trying to connect to it's old dbus file on the remote sysstem, but on your local system
[22:41] <tfh> every time I select places->[any of my drives]  I have to type in my password, and then the drives ownership is root, how can I get this to be my user name?
[22:41] <militant> savid, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325374
[22:41] <BinaryMan> photocopy: good. shout if you have problems getting the game to work after its installed.
[22:41] <ikonia> seren: what ssh command are you using ?
[22:41] <jellow> DasEi, I tried sudo chown -R user:user still get Operation not permitted
[22:41] <photocopy> binaryman: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/pool/games/e/enemy-territory-data/enemy-territory-data_2.60b-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[22:41] <photocopy>   Could not resolve 'ftp-mirror.internap.com'
[22:42] <skull23> hey guys
[22:42] <seren> ssh $server -X
[22:42] <seren> i tried -Y too
[22:42] <henrih> hello. i happened to do 'apt-get upgrade' just a few moments ago after a long pause, but once i rebooted my system was no longer working. i get weird error messages like "Nautilus couldn't start because of blah" and the GNOME is completely unusable and it doesn't boot into it
[22:42] <Lenin_Cat> dose N wireless work in ubuntu
[22:42] <ikonia> seren: is X11 forwarding on the sshd_config ?
[22:42] <seren> ikonia: yes
[22:42] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: depends if the card has a module that supports it
[22:42] <DasEi> jellow: sudo chown  -r >jellow or whatever here< /mountdir
[22:42] <ikonia> seren: that should be enough then
[22:42] <savid> militant, yeah, I read that
[22:42] <giemini> tfh: chown
[22:42] <seren> ikonia: xterm and other x apps work fine
[22:42] <DasEi> jellow: sudo chown  -R >jellow or whatever here< /mountdir
[22:42] <militant> savid, so use the trial version of stuffit.  *shrug*
[22:42] <skull23> i came across a minor problem with ubuntu, i upgraded the update manager, now my internet isn't working , ( i' am on my xp laptop with the wired connection).
[22:42] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, It dose, in windows I get 130mb/s but in linux I never get above 54mb/s
[22:43] <ikonia> seren: yeah, so it's just gnome->remotedbus
[22:43] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: windows support is not valid, depends if the kerne module supports N for that card, sounds like it doesn't
[22:43] <tfh> giemini, would chown  change the permissions going forward, ie every time I mount the drive?
[22:43] <jellow> DasEi,  On all the files i get  Operation not permitted
[22:43] <Raff7> hello :)
[22:43] <giemini> tfh: chwon changes file permissions permanently
[22:43] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, I'm using ndiswrapper
[22:43] <alexandrooo_out> sera a tutti
[22:44] <DasEi> jellow: whats the mountdir ?
[22:44] <ikonia> again - that doesn't matter
[22:44] <tfh> giemini also, chown wouldn't change the fact that I have to put my password when I mount it through places->[my drive]
[22:44] <jellow> DasEi, I put it in /media
[22:44] <henux> hello. i happened to do 'apt-get upgrade' just a few moments ago after a long pause, but once i rebooted my system was no longer working. i get weird error messages like "Nautilus couldn't start because of blah" and the GNOME is completely unusable and it doesn't boot into it. how can i reinstall the base system without having to actually erase everything?
[22:44] <DasEi> jellow: no subdir ?
[22:44] <ikonia> henux: blah is not helpful, need the error message
[22:45] <giemini> tfh: do you have these drives  listed in fstab?
[22:45] <jellow> DasEi, not sure =/
[22:45] <henux> ikonia: i get multiple multiple error messages which i cant remember atm, what does it actually matter since you most likely cant resolve it
[22:45] <DasEi> jellow: mount tells you
[22:45] <seren> ikonia: im reinstalling dbus and dbus-x11
[22:45] <ikonia> henux: if you think it can't be resolved, why ar eyou asking
[22:46] <jellow> DasEi,  /dev/sda1 on /media type vfat (rw)
[22:46] <ikonia> seren: worth a shot, I'm a bit stumped by the behaviour to be honest
[22:46] <henux> ikonia: i was asking how to reinstall the base system without erasing everything, stop wasting my time and read
[22:46] <seren> ikonia: i saw some bugs on launchpad about same problem but no solution
[22:46] <ikonia> henux: drop the attitude,
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, well dunno what's up with this thing. the problem is now when I add stuff to the deskbar, like a shortcut or smth
[22:46] <imachine> upon relogin
[22:46] <imachine> it's gone :/
[22:46] <KenBW2> is anyone else unable to play fulscreen video when compiz is activated?
[22:46] <Like> gg
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, folders and other settings seem to save fine over reboot/ relogin
[22:46] <tfh> giemini, http://pastebin.com/d3be08a42 this is my fstab
[22:46] <seren> no change
[22:46] <imachine> ikonia, I think something's at hand with my skipping of those questionnares
[22:46] <DasEi> jellow: sudo chown -R jellow /media               will give jellow full access
[22:46] <imachine> ;]
[22:46] <ikonia> seren: very puzzling, let me think
[22:47] <Ferris-> Ive been trying for four days to get my Atheros onboard wireless chip to work with ubuntu. Im using an acer aspire 3680-2682. Ive gotten it to work once, so i know it's possible, and i have a backup of the OS it worked with. It was a wubi install, though, and i have no windows install to play with it.
[22:47] <seren> ikonia: could it be orbit?
[22:47] <ikonia> imachine: very possible, but I don't know the tool your talking about and don't have a test system to hand at the moment
[22:47] <imachine> ikonia, do you know who may perhaphs know more about the entire homedir encryption thing ?
[22:47] <ikonia> seren: the message suggests it could be, but I don't know why that would be a problem
[22:47] <Ferris-> any tips? ^_^ i tried the one on the forums you've got a bot linking to.
[22:47] <kanzie> What is a good alternative to Plex in Linux?
[22:47] <cisco21c> Anyone help me?
[22:47] <Like> ikonia ..
[22:47] <tfh> how can I get the drives mounted with a friendly name rather than something like: /media/cb8969dd-1059-4b35-8c86-7c96fe28cf04
[22:47] <imachine> kanzie, what's Plex ?
[22:47] <kanzie> I want to use ubuntu as my Mediacenter in the living-room
[22:47] <DasEi> !ask | cisco21c
[22:47] <ikonia> Like: ?
[22:47] <imachine> oh
[22:47] <Like> hi!!
[22:47] <imachine> kanzie, so like, the mediacenter edition? :p
[22:47] <kanzie> imachine: xbmc for osx, albeit slicker and nicer
[22:48] <jellow> DasEi, Nope i get operation not permitted
[22:48] <adac> what is the package for to install the kde desktop?
[22:48] <ikonia> imachine: half your text flashed off the screen, could you re-summerise please
[22:48] <ikonia> adac: kubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <Ferris-> i feel like a jerk for repeating, but this channel is busy.
[22:48] <Ferris-> Ive been trying for four days to get my Atheros onboard wireless chip to work with ubuntu. Im using an acer aspire 3680-2682. Ive gotten it to work once, so i know it's possible, and i have a backup of the OS it worked with. It was a wubi install, though, and i have no windows install to play with it.
[22:48] <cisco21c> My problem is long to type so I'll link to where I've posted on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386400
[22:48] <eshannon> is there any experts on 3ware 9500s-12 cards?
[22:48] <kanzie> imachine: never even heard of it
[22:48] <imachine> kanzie, xmbc the media player?
[22:48] <adac> ikonia, will this change the boot and login screen too?
[22:48] <giemini> tfh: which drives are you mounting while clocking on them? if you do not have them in your fstab just put them in there and all will be mounted automaticly while booting; you can check you partitions with: df -h
[22:49] <imachine> ikonia, do you know who may perhaphs know more about the entire homedir encryption thing ?
[22:49] <ikonia> adac: no, you need kdm for that
[22:49] <giemini> tfh: clicking*
[22:49] <kanzie> imachine: no, that I use on my xbox daily
[22:49] <ikonia> imachine: ooh wow, errr, not off the top of my head, checkc the launchpad team
[22:49] <kanzie> imachine: mediacenter edition, sounded like a ubuntu derivative
[22:49] <ikonia> imachine: maybe also #ubuntu-desktop
[22:49] <imachine> ikonia, kay
[22:49] <adac> ikonia, good cause I want gnome to be on login
[22:49] <ikonia> kanzie: it is
[22:49] <imachine> will do cheers
[22:49] <DasEi> jellow: on the sudo cmd or on later access ?
[22:49] <csh> Made python script for repetitive calculations; two errors at runtime.  Can anyone spot 'em? http://pastebin.com/d1b9540ca
[22:49] <ikonia> imachine: you're not using mediacenter edition are you ?
[22:50] <adac> ikonia, thx!
[22:50] <Like> ikonia Ironia
[22:50] <kanzie> ikonia: are you?
[22:50] <ikonia> Like: what ?
[22:50] <ikonia> kanzie: no no no
[22:50] <tfh> giemini, df -h output http://pastebin.com/d4acc277
[22:51] <seren> ikonia: i rmed .gnome .dbus and .gconf and doing a reboot, only think i can thing of
[22:51] <ikonia> seren: good call in my view
[22:51] <tfh> giemini, as you see they are all mounted with weird names, and I had to input my password
[22:51] <wish^> if i install ubuntu on my laptop should i be using the notebook version or is that not released yet?
[22:51] <ikonia> wish^: netbook version is for netbooks, not notebooks
[22:51] <seren> O_o
[22:51] <DasEi> cisco21c: looks like a faulty medium to me
[22:51] <ikonia> seren: no joy ?
[22:51] <frenzy_usa_> cisco21c: Try burning another cd/dvd
[22:52] <seren> no machine was acting funky on shutdown
[22:52] <DasEi> cisco21c: try to install from usb
[22:52] <cisco21c> I have, no luck.
[22:52] <ikonia> ah
[22:52] <csh> Made python script for repetitive calculations; two errors at runtime.  Can anyone spot 'em? ons; two errors at runtime.  Can anyone spot 'em? ons; two errors at runtime.  Can anyone spot 'em? http://pastebin.com/d1b9540ca
[22:52] <wish^> ah you mean the 9" ?
[22:52] <wish^> so on my 15,6 im gone want the normal ubuntu distro?
[22:52] <kanzie> so, any takers on what to install to get it working mainl as a good mediacenter in the living room?
[22:52] <ikonia> wish^: no I mean a netbook
[22:52] <jack5463> i want google translator to work inside my irc so when i type text and send it's sent with the original and translated text can someone write it for me or tell me where to download it?
[22:52] <ikonia> kanzie: ubuntu desktop is fine for that
[22:52] <henux> i am getting these error messages after gdm, GNOME does not work (only background screen, no user interface) http://pastebin.com/d5cfee943
[22:53] <giemini> tfh: which of them do you want to mount automatically?
[22:53] <ikonia> kanzie: look at products like mythtv
[22:53] <giemini> tfh: and where?
[22:53] <roracle> problem:  compiz doesn't stick when i logout or reboot
[22:53] <cisco21c> How would I go about installing from USB and boot from it?
[22:53] <tfh> all
[22:53] <roracle> 9.10
[22:53] <Thor^^> Hi, for some reason when I try to play any mp3 in amarok on ubuntu it just skips them and eventually stop trying and say that "too many errors encountered in playlist", any ideas on what to try? I set up my primary soundcard to be prefered
[22:53] <seren> ikonia: last time there was a bunch of session files in .dbus and on reboot thei is only one, fingers crossed
[22:53] <ikonia> seren: cool
[22:53] <DasEi> cisco21c: need a running os for it, use unetbootin
[22:53] <tfh> giemini media/<drive>
[22:53] <seren> no luck
[22:53] <giemini> tfh: all in media?
[22:54] <cisco21c> Would vista do the job? as thats what Im on now.
[22:54] <jellow> DasEi, Ok worked it out bit of fstab black voddo magic
[22:54] <DasEi> cisco21c: did you try to run the dvd as a live cd ?
[22:54] <tfh> giemini /media/drivename
[22:54] <wish^> if i run the windows installer will i loose all my data?
[22:54] <wish^> i mean i have a 500gb hdd and i am only using about 120 of it
[22:54] <jellow> DasEi, Thanks for your help
[22:54] <cisco21c> Yes, I've tried that too. It just hangs on the silver ubuntu logo
[22:54] <imachine> ikonia, not exactly, spredding fudd am i ? ;)
[22:54] <soreau> roracle: You probably have permissions issues from running as root or with sudo. To fix it, run the following as your normal user: sudo chown -R $USER ~/.gconf*
[22:54] <csh> jack5463, that is a very interesting thing.  It could be written in Perl easily *or Python*.  I think there are similar scripts already out there, but they may not be written specifically for chats, and may not format text in the exact way you want.  Haven't looked for 'em, though.
[22:54] <DasEi> jellow: even it wasnt mounted for user, chown should have done it
[22:54] <imachine> didn't know, said it off the top of my head tbh ;p
[22:55] <ikonia> imachine: no no, it's cool
[22:55] <soreau> roracle: Then turn effects off and beck on and re-login
[22:55] <prefrontal_> where can I find a list of webcams that work with Flash for linux?
[22:55] <roracle> k, brb
[22:55] <prefrontal_> also, microphones
[22:55] <DasEi> !hardware | prefrontal_
[22:55] <jellow> DasEi, I depends what options it been mounted with
[22:55] <DasEi> jellow: so what was it ?
[22:55] <ikonia> seren: how's it looking ?
[22:55] <imachine> ikonia, it seems no body cares in #ubuntu-desktop
[22:55] <seren> ikonia: same
[22:55] <imachine> ikonia, anywhere else ?
[22:56] <ikonia> imachine: ooh really
[22:56] <ikonia> seren: annoying
[22:56] <imachine> yes really
[22:56] <trism> csh: one seems to be in percentage(a, b) you didn't put parens around the tuple for the string substitution (you can omit them with only one value but not with multiple) and multiple items in a for is invalid syntax; but you could do for z, y in [(i, j) for i in list_a for j in list_a]:
[22:56] <imachine> they told be to bounce back here
[22:56] <ikonia> imachine: hit the launchpad team
[22:56] <imachine> ;]
[22:56] <imachine> ikonia, through launchpad then ?
[22:56] <jellow> DasEi, added this to fstab UUID=12102C02102CEB83  /media/windows  vfat auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[22:56] <ikonia> imachine: I understand that, it's not a desktop problem, but I thought they may have gnome the name of tool to ummon
[22:56] <ikonia> summon
[22:56] <ikonia> imachine: mail them
[22:56] <imachine> ikonia, you know, it's pretty much a big bug
[22:56] <seren> WTF this is annoying
[22:57] <imachine> I think next cds should be pressed with a fix
[22:57] <ikonia> imachine: how do you know ? so far it's only you
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, it's a PRESSED cd.
[22:57] <ikonia> seren: calm down on the language, I know it's frustratting
[22:57] <imachine> well
[22:57] <prefrontal_> DasEi, that is a list of hardware that works on ubuntu, not a list of webcams that work with flash
[22:57] <ikonia> imachine: pressed CD ?
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, if it isn't ;)
[22:57] <DasEi> jellow: vfat has no group-rights, just auto,user,rw,exec
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, yepp, got it in the mail and all.
[22:57] <wish^> Im running a machine with Vista, and id like to try out ubuntu on this laptop. if i use the windows installer will it wipe my data or?
[22:57] <ikonia> imachine: that doesn't mean it's a bug
[22:57] <imachine> all the way from america or smth
[22:57] <roracle> okay, it didn't work, do i need to replace $USER with something else?
[22:57] <ikonia> imachine: you machine may have just had a bug
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, well. prolly
[22:57] <giemini> tfh: as i can see you've got 5 partitions there: sdb1 sda2 sdb3 sda4 sda1, just make 5 different dirs somehere and then add 5 lines to your fstab: for example: /dev/sda1  /media/my_disk_1 ext4 defaults 0 0
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, pssble
[22:57] <FloodBot1> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <seren> ikonia: gona make a new user
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, whci is why I'll launch it again :)
[22:57] <imachine> ikonia, or maybe I could make a new user
[22:57] <imachine> with a new home dir
[22:57] <imachine> ;]
[22:57] <giemini> tfh: if your filesystem is ext4 of course
[22:58] <ikonia> imachine: no - not probably, making wild stamements like "it's a pretty big bug" will just discredit your genuine report
[22:58] <soreau> roracle: Did you run that command as your normal user then set effects to None and back again like I said?
[22:58] <imachine> but I don't know if there is a tool for that ?
[22:58] <jack5463> csh, i saw someone using emacs with the google translator attached... it worked good... but he left before i could get any details.. he said he wrote the program with emacs and used emacs as irc
[22:58] <wish^> i guess not then
[22:58] <roracle> effects are defaulted to none
[22:58] <DasEi> prefrontal_: what do you mean to work with flash ? if the driver is  supported, can use it
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> emacs is a very good OS. it just needs a decent text editor..... :)
[22:59] <cisco21c> So any link to a tutorial on how to install/boot from USB?
[22:59] <Guest4234> Can I configure fluxbox to open, say, a text editor, terminal, and file browser as a tabbed group?
[22:59] <roracle> soreau: when i set to "Extra" and log out or reboot, i get back in and they're at "None" again
[22:59] <prefrontal_> DasEi, that is not so. I have a linux webcam that works with skype, but not the flash plugin.
[22:59]  * ikonia nudges Dr_Willis to not be naughty
[22:59] <DasEi> !usb | cisco21c
[22:59] <Guest4234> Dr.Willis LOL   :)
[22:59] <cisco21c> Thank you.
[22:59] <morphix> is there a way to resize a logical partition with extended partitions inside of it?
[22:59] <trism> csh: although I think I misunderstood what you were trying to do, if you just one y = list_a[0], z = list_b[0], then 1 2 etc, it would be for y, z in zip(list_a, list_b):
[22:59] <henux> i am getting these error messages after gdm, GNOME does not work (only background screen, no user interface) http://pastebin.com/d5cfee943
[22:59] <morphix> i need to make some of the extended partitions smaller
[22:59] <seren> ikonia: ok made  new user and everything is ok, im gonna delte the old user reboot and recreate it
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> Guest4234:  check teh fluxbox forums. I seem to recall seeing that done.. but i dont recall how
[23:00] <ikonia> henux: looks like you deleted some data in your home dir,
[23:00] <ikonia> henux: create the files/dir's it wants and remove  http://pastebin.com/d5cfee943
[23:00] <ikonia> oops
[23:00] <ikonia> remove /home/user/.ICEauthority
[23:00] <Guest4234> thx Dr. Willis
[23:00] <henux> nautilus files are there
[23:01] <chisel_> i'm having trouble extracting rars in the last couple days...what gives?
[23:01] <ikonia> henux: /home/user/Desktop ?
[23:01] <DasEi> prefrontal_: I stiil dont get it , what sahll the plugin do with the cam ?
[23:01] <henux> it is there
[23:01] <prefrontal_> DasEi, recognize it and read from it.
[23:01] <giemini> Does PCMan FM have support for samba?
[23:01] <Guest4234> Fjordsie - has unrar-nonfree?
[23:02] <soreau> roracle: Well either it's not a permissions issue or you're doing it wrong
[23:02] <ikonia> henux: permissions ?
[23:02] <Guest21426> Can someone tel me the non ose packages for virtualbox?
[23:02] <henux> i have autologgin enabled
[23:02] <Guest4234> Guest21426 google download VirtualBox
[23:02] <blakkheim> Guest4234: it's not in the repo
[23:02] <henux> Desktop and .nautilus are world readable and writable by user
[23:02] <blakkheim> Guest21426: *
[23:02] <Guest21426> oh
[23:02] <seren> hrm how do i loc a user off without being said user
[23:02] <DasEi> Guest21426: Hompepage, Name irtualBox
[23:02] <seren> log
[23:02] <roracle> soreau: i just copy and pasted your command, set the settings, and logged out.  then i logged back in and it was back to "None"
[23:02] <jack5463> when someone respondes to my question my id is highlighted in yellow... how do I make the id highlighted?
[23:03] <Guest21426> ose sucks
[23:03] <henux> ikonia: it does no longer complain about the ICE but for others yes
[23:03] <kanzie> how is myth in comparison to vlc or xbmc for playing media?
[23:03] <DasEi> Guest21426: V*
[23:03] <henux> the UI now appears however
[23:03] <seren> nvm
[23:03] <soreau> roracle: You need to set it to None and beck to whatever it was so it takes affect
[23:03] <Like> hey boys
[23:03] <savid> ugh,  the stuffit unix version doesn't work -- it sees a .sitx file as unsupported format
[23:03] <henux> okay i know what the problem is now
[23:03] <chisel_> my rars aren't extracting all the sudden. google is no help yet. any suggestions?
[23:03] <Viddy_> I'll mention it in the mac support forums, but my macbook 4,1 in any of the default 9.10 kernels would suspend, then when turned on again, wouldn't resume in any real manner - keyboard lights wouldn't even change. Compiling 2.6.32.4 from source and installing fixed this issue.
[23:03] <blakkheim> chisel_: unrar x filename.rar
[23:03] <Like> i have a high cuality question for a good answers
[23:04] <seren> chisel_: what is the error
[23:04] <iflema> wish^ windows installer? the Ubuntu installer will allow you to resize/chopup your hdd to make room for ubuntu and your vista will be safe... but as always backup first?
[23:04] <tucemiux> my guest OS is XP but it has no internet access, anyone experienced the same issue?
[23:04] <trism> csh: oh you also have unbalanced parenthesis in percentage (either drop the one just after print or add another to the end of that line)
[23:04] <henux> ikonia: the problem is that autologging is not compatible with encrypted hd
[23:04] <chisel_> seren: Unknown error
[23:04] <DasEi> prefrontal_: ah, well my logolink webcam can do so, but I really wonder if you can skype-use it, shall work in that dialog, too
[23:04] <Like> x-fi xtreme audio can put sound really work but she can put sound in the speakers ?
[23:04] <TheMozart> hello
[23:04] <csh> jack5463, cool.  I would find a similar script and integrate it with xchat, but I am no programmer.  (For this is why I came here - I made syntax errors in a python script!)
[23:05] <cisco21c> Since usb-creator.exe doesn't exist on the 9.10 i386 image. Unetbootin is my alt. method?
[23:05] <tucemiux> wish^, there is a windows installer for ubuntu, it's called wubi, you can install it within windows
[23:05] <ikonia> henux: I've not used that combination
[23:05] <Roasted_> Does anybody know how I can change the way the icons in my panel react when they need attention? For example if I get an IM, how can I adjust the way the IM box in the task bar acts?
[23:05] <spiritssight> jrib: No I have not installed any thing that I can recall (nope :-) )  sorry for the delay was eating
[23:05] <henux> yeo
[23:05] <DasEi> cisco21c: yes, or pendrivelinux
[23:05] <jrib> spiritssight: pastebin: apt-cache policy libgnomekbd2
[23:05] <henux> problem solved
[23:05] <henux> 9.10 is not very good IMO
[23:05] <Like> x-fi xtreme audio work but dont put speakers ?
[23:06] <henux> im going to sleep now, its 1:00 AM
[23:06] <Roasted_> 9.10 certainly isnt as bad as most people think
[23:06] <Roasted_> Ill say that much
[23:06] <chisel_> blakkheim: i've installed unrar and done what you've suggested, to no avail. but thanks for the try
[23:06] <iflema> wish^ no wubi.... try the live environment first to see all goes well then do a native install.
[23:06] <DasEi> cisco21c: on a machine with enough ram can also install usbcreator in a live cd
[23:06] <henux> Roasted_: it has been the worst ubuntu experience so far, too much problems with no gains
[23:06] <henux> for me
[23:06] <adac> I installed kubuntu-desktop now. But now I have on boot screen first the kubuntu loading, then the ubuntu loading grafic. Also when I login to gnome I have the kde mouse and mouse loading...any ideas?
[23:06] <henux> see you, im going to zzzz
[23:06] <DasEi> cisco21c: unetbootin is there for win, too
[23:07] <Roasted_> henux - to each his own. Its been the best for me. And besides, I doubt the devs care much about 9.10 bugs when 10.04 is an LTS... can you blame them?
[23:07] <jack5463> csh, mIRC has a script that incorporates google translator i believe... saw it in a search but didn't read more
[23:07] <jrib> Roasted_: every release everyone claims $previous_release was the best, this release is the worst.  Basically people get used to certain bugs and then there are new ones they aren't used to
[23:07] <Roasted_> yeah, I agree jrib
[23:07] <csh> trism: ok.  I was hesitant to write "for var in list[]".  Hehe, I guess i should have tried it...
[23:08] <Roasted_> I remember people badmouthing 9.04. then all of the sudden 9.04 is top dog. what the??
[23:08] <tucemiux> Roasted_, the devs will try to look at the bugs, have you filed a bug report in launch pad?
[23:08] <Roasted_> filed a bug? I dont have any problems with 9.10. :P
[23:08] <Like> any one know open gl codec for x-fi xtreme audio pci-e ?
[23:08] <seren> ikonia: i created a new user, deleted the old user, now same problem persists with the old user
[23:08] <ikonia> Like: opengl is nothing to do with your audio problems
[23:08] <Roasted_> tucemiux, my point was I doubt the same manpower for 9.10 bug crunching is there in comparison to 9.04. With 10.04 being around the corner, and an LTS, Id certainly put mye nergy towards 10.04, moreso than normal.
[23:08] <jack5463> i'm using 9.10 and no problems from live cd
[23:09] <spiritssight> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d6c1cb94e
[23:09] <ikonia> seren: so at least you know it's system wide - not that, that helps
[23:09] <trism> csh: you could also do for i in range(len(list_a)): percentage(list_a[i], list_b[i]), but I think using zip is nicer
[23:09] <Nihilo> hi
[23:09] <uffdaa> can one install kernel 2.6.32.4.generic into a 9.04 jaunty?
[23:09] <DasEi> Like: I really dont like that card, but you can find something on alsaproject.org
[23:09] <seren> ikonia: no its user specific sorry i wasnt clear, user a has problems, user b doesnt
[23:09] <DasEi> uffdaa: yes
[23:09] <ikonia> seren: oooh
[23:09] <jrib> spiritssight: that suggests that package isn't from any ubuntu repository
[23:09] <tucemiux> Roasted_, my point is, have you posted a bug report or not, this conversation is going off topic
[23:09] <Like> why not open sound system
[23:10] <uffdaa> DasEi; thanks
[23:10] <adac> ikonia, I installed kubuntu-desktop now. But now I have on boot screen first the kubuntu loading, then the ubuntu loading grafic. Also when I login to gnome I have the kde mouse and mouse loading...any ideas?
[23:10] <conb123> IS ubuntu 64 bit fully supported yet because i just got a core i7 but i don't know whether to get 32 bit or 64.
[23:10] <Roasted_> tucemiux, my point is, as I said, I DONT have any bugs.
[23:10] <DasEi> conb123: yes, it is
[23:10] <conb123> DasEi: Oh brilliant
[23:11] <spiritssight> jrib: so how can I fix it as I its been over a year since used this system
[23:11] <Neremor> hello!
[23:11] <Nihilo> hi
[23:11] <jrib> spiritssight: well removing the package would be one way
[23:11] <kronosx1> hello all. big time noob here
[23:11] <seren> is their any way to search the filesystem for files owned by a specific user?
[23:11] <spiritssight> jrib: what the best way to do that
[23:12] <blakkheim> conb123: how much ram do you have
[23:12] <jrib> spiritssight: use synaptic.  After  you do that pastebin the apt-cache policy result for the other 3 packages in http://pastebin.com/d5d53c81f
[23:12] <conb123> blakkheim: 4gb why?
[23:12] <trumpen> seren, from the command line, sudo find / -user $username
[23:13] <blakkheim> conb123: i was going to say you might want to use 32bit if you have 4gb or less
[23:13] <seren> trumpen: thanks i was digging through man find
[23:13] <conb123> blakkheim: Yeah i've heard people say that, but 64 bit is faster isn't it and if all the applications support it i don't see much reason not to
[23:14] <blakkheim> conb123: no, 64bit applications are not all faster, only a select few have any speed benefit
[23:14] <blakkheim> conb123: in most cases the 64bit apps are actually bigger, require more ram and are slower
[23:14] <trumpen> seren, yw
[23:14] <Neremor> I'm using the program "LuckyBackup" to create backups of my user data, for example my Thunderbird Profile folder. But I've a question about that: As BackUp method i choose "Backup the entire source directory (by name)". Now I've a simple example to show my question: I have three addons installed in thunderbird and create the backup. Now I remove two of these addons because I don't like them. Also the addon-files in the thunderbird profile
[23:14] <Neremor>  folder are deleted  now. If i run the backup again, are these files also deleted in the target-folder? Or contains the target folder everything the source folder has EVER been containing?
[23:14] <cxo> slower? thats not true, especially for the "most cases"
[23:15] <blakkheim> cxo: slower to open, let me clarify
[23:15] <conb123> blakkheim: Really? I thought other than the possibility of more than 4gb of ram the added speed was the whole point of 64 bit
[23:15] <blakkheim> conb123: more than 4gb of ram is pretty much "the" reason to use 64bit
[23:15] <Neremor> Or well, what I want is something like completly removing the already existing backup before running it again.
[23:16] <morphix> blakkheim: heh, there is a considerable difference between converting videos and such using 32bit and 64bit
[23:16] <greentiger> what's a good resource for setting up linux client/servers in an enterprise type environment like you would for windows and active directory?
[23:16] <blakkheim> 64-bit data structures can take up more space in the L1/L2/L3 caches which may cause code to run somewhat slower
[23:16] <DasEi> greentiger: ldap
[23:17] <cisco21c> There's no boot from USB in my BIOS, just: floppy diskette drive, hard drive, cd-rom drive and network adapter. what now?
[23:17] <morphix> i am yet to see this "slow down" for 64bit
[23:17] <jophish> is it possible to create a user who can only see into one directory, and has no permissions apart from that.
[23:17] <francesco__>  [EWG]-maje11 XDCC SEND #7
[23:17] <jophish> no home folder for example
[23:17] <morphix> so far, for the past.. 3-4 years ive been running on 64bit only linux, i have not noticed such a thing
[23:17] <greentiger> DasEi: obviously, but i mean like a howto
[23:18] <DasEi> cisco21c: no usb boot then, though did you stick in the usb before looking ?
[23:18] <beenbassin> What's the command to make myself root again? I forget =X
[23:18] <Roasted_> Does anybody know how I can change the way the icons in my panel react when they need attention? For example if I get an IM, how can I adjust the way the IM box in the task bar acts?
[23:18] <jrib> !sudo | beenbassin
[23:18] <blakkheim> beenbassin: sudo su
[23:18] <Drew3> Hi FOlks  I am finding it an impossible task to set up my nvidia dual monitors.  after 10's of hours of trying google I was looking for a kind soul here.  The latest problem is the gnome Panel disappears after Login, leaving no way to get apps of any kind.
[23:18] <jrib> blakkheim: use « sudo -i » not « sudo su »
[23:18] <blakkheim> beenbassin: i knew someone would jump on that and start the "dont use root" etc
[23:18] <Roasted_> Drew3, what nvidia card are you using
[23:19] <Drew3> 8600gt roasted
[23:19] <Roasted_> what drivers were you using?
[23:19] <Roasted_> and were you trying to install from the hardware manager?
[23:19] <cisco21c> DasEi: Yes, it just skips over everything and goes straight to trying to boot from LAN.
[23:19] <Drew3> 186xx  Roasted
[23:20] <Roasted_> do you currently have dual screens running, but just the gnome panel dsiappearing?
[23:20] <beenbassin> I have a CD that I had to unhide  a file on, how do I undo the unhide so that I can eject? When I try it gives me an error : umount: /media/cdrom0 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[23:20] <DasEi> cisco21c: I assume you got another machine, you can also drag out the hd of the hp, put it in usb-eclosure and install ubuntu on another machine /w cd or usb boot
[23:20] <morphix> cisco21c: sure there is no "removable devices" option in boot settings?
[23:20] <spiritssight> jrib: the update manger UI told me to run apt-get install -f I think it was and not update UI is allowing the update
[23:21] <robogenus> hello all
[23:21] <giemini> beenbassin: sudo umount?
[23:21] <Drew3> At this moment I am on a live CD Roasted    I can get only one monitor to work and immediately after login the panel goes poof.  If I could get one monitor working I'd be all set (I think) Roasted
[23:22] <Roasted_> Drew3, are you using sudo nvidia-settings when you set up the dual monitors/
[23:22] <beenbassin> giemini: Just gives me usage data
[23:22] <cisco21c> Where's the best place to get a usb-enclosure, onlines not a problem.
[23:22] <jrib> !ot | cisco21c
[23:23] <geezenslaw> Hi, I just installed the remix on a flashdrive. Eveything works except permanent hostname change. After reboot the hostname is back to: ubuntu. Any Ideas?
[23:23] <Drew3> Roasted I resorted to the live cd as my only means of gettin here  Yes I am using sudo ( root actually)
[23:23] <jason__> Hi Everyone. New to IRC, or little experiance. Anyone got any ideas on how to use FDISK?
[23:23] <adb_monster> Sorry but, I'm french and I looking for someone who would like to correct some sentences for me PLEAZE
[23:23] <Roasted_> Drew3, sudo is root, in essence.
[23:23] <pilif12p> !fr
[23:23] <cisco21c> jrib: this is part of my orginal question on installing ubuntu
[23:23] <pilif12p> adb_monster: ^
[23:23] <giemini> beenbassin: sudo umount /dev/<something_you_want_to_unmount>
[23:24] <jrib> cisco21c: ...
[23:24] <Roasted_> Drew3, the only thing I can recommend is to boot in terminal mode, run sudo nvidia-xconfig, reboot, and log in as normal and hope the primary monitor works. After that, run sudo nvidia-settings and see if you can set up dual monitors without it acting up on you.
[23:24] <DasEi> cisco21c: if you plan to use it for 2,5" only, can even just use a usb adaptor, <= 10 Euro, newegg or ebay or .. whatever
[23:24] <Roasted_> Does anybody know how I can change the way the icons in my panel react when they need attention? For example if I get an IM, how can I adjust the way the IM box in the task bar acts?
[23:24] <beenbassin> giemini: Thanks, that was it!
[23:24] <jason__> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[23:25] <giemini> beenbassin: np
[23:25] <cisco21c> I shall do some searching around, thanks DasEi.
[23:25] <Drew3> Roasted  nvidia-xconfig   hmm ty
[23:26] <Roasted_> Drew3, its worth a shot. I did it recently.
[23:26] <DasEi> cisco21c: if you that way, install base-system, put back hd, boot to safemode, reconfigure x and do an update/grade
[23:26] <Roasted_> Drew3, Im running dual monitors on a nvidia 9600gt.
[23:26] <DasEi> go
[23:26] <Roasted_> Drew3, I had to run nvidia-xconfig in order to generate a xorg file to save video settings in. Then in nvidia-settings I applied it to the xorg.conf in the actual menu. Its a button right below "Apply" I think
[23:27] <lakotajames> Hi guys.  I have ubuntu and debian installed dual boot.  I don't really know what i'm doing.  They each have 15gb partitions, and a shared home.  I can boot into ubuntu, but when i pick the debian thing in the grub menu it won't let me.  Is that because I didn't install a boot loader for debian?
[23:27] <cisco21c> Base-system meaning WinXP that came with it?
[23:27] <jack5463> does mibbit work with ubuntu?
[23:28] <DasEi> lakotajames: no, you first installed debian, then karmic ?
[23:28] <DasEi> cisco21c: no, Ubuntu, but dont update from installer
[23:29] <lakotajames> DasEi:  I attempted to install debian, but it was taking too long and I needed to use the compy so i stopped it and installed ubuntu on the other partition, which recognized the debian on the first partition.  Then i reinstalled debian over the second one.
[23:29] <Drew3> I have had dual working in Mandriva for years,  the lack of a xorg.config file baffles me, and it seems the xorg.config files are not transferable from Mandriva to *buntu's. Roasted  thanks,
[23:30] <DasEi> lakotajames: I see, and now grub just lets you choose ubuntu, well, was that karmic-ubuntu ?
[23:30] <cisco21c> So just install Ubuntu using the ISO I've downloaded from the website and update from ubuntu itself?
[23:30] <Roasted_> Drew3, Yeah. I recenty came from mandriva to ubuntu myself. Very solid distros, just a bit different.
[23:30] <Roasted_> Drew3, good luck. And dont forget ubuntuforums.org. Very helpful users there.
[23:30] <lakotajames> karmic.  And it has a choice for debian, but it doesn't work.  I can't remember the error.  :(
[23:30] <DasEi> cisco21c: yes, when back in laptop
[23:30] <lakotajames> err.
[23:30] <lakotajames> DasEi:karmic.  And it has a choice for debian, but it doesn't work.  I can't remember the error.  :(
[23:30] <lakotajames> :p
[23:31] <luckyone> quick question, if I wanted to switch from ubuntu to mythbuntu could I just apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop && apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop?
[23:31] <Roasted_> I dont think youd want to do that at the same time
[23:31] <lakotajames> DasEi: I mean, the karmic grub has a choice for debian, and when i choose it it gives me an error about not being able to find something, or something being missing , or something.
[23:31] <Roasted_> maybe install mythbuntu, boot to it, THEN remove ubuntu-desktop
[23:32] <DasEi> lakotajames: karmic comes with grub2, I think debian is still grub1, you will have to manually adjust /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:32] <ZogsterJack> looking for aid with a local web dev lamp server setup
[23:32] <Roasted_> install mythbuntu + remove ubuntu-desktop while booted into gnome sounds like a bad idea :P
[23:32] <trism> luckyone: removing ubuntu-desktop will pretty much do nothing
[23:32] <anil56554> helloeveryone
[23:32] <VCoolio> how can i check in what usb port my external hd is plugged? lspci lists four; one of them is usb2 and that's the one I want my hd in...
[23:32] <lakotajames> DasEi: I chose not to install a bootloader with debian, since i already had the one in karmic. Do i need to fix that?
[23:32] <luckyone> trism: do you think just installing from scratch is a better idea?
[23:32] <rahduke> one of my sata drives is a little screwed up, Disk Utility is telling me a number of my sectors are waiting to be remapped. If the sector waiting to be remapped is subsequently written or read successfully this value will be decreased.  Read Errors on the sector will not remap the sector, it will only be remapped on a failed write attempt. Basically I have a few bad sectors, whats the fastest/easiest way to fix it?
[23:33] <rahduke> the thing is acting wonky
[23:33] <MCSpanner1> hello, anyone know how to remove a device driver?
[23:33] <trism> luckyone: no, I just meant, it isn't going to remove any of the packages ubuntu-desktop installs that aren't needed by mythbuntu-desktop
[23:33] <rahduke> its scaring me cuz i have 400 gigs of stuff on it
[23:33] <DasEi> lakotajames: no, but then you got grub 2 on it
[23:33] <luckyone> trism: I have repurposed a box and want to remove things like gnome, open office, etc
[23:33] <boss_mc> MCSpanner1: sudo modprobe -r <driver name>
[23:33] <Roasted_> Does anybody know how I can change the way the icons in my panel react when they need attention? For example if I get an IM, how can I adjust the way the IM box in the task bar acts?
[23:34] <luckyone> trism: so I was hoping to end up with only packages needed by mythbuntu-desktop
[23:34] <DasEi> lakotajames: you can use either grub 1 or 2, I would backup mbr in case things get worse, then use super-grub disk (both versions available) and reinstall grub
[23:35] <lakotajames> DasEi:  where do i install grub to?
[23:35] <trism> luckyone: you will need to do that manually, just removing ubuntu-desktop won't do it (although you might be able to remove it with tasksel, but I haven't tried it myself)
[23:35] <DasEi> lakotajames: mbr by default
[23:35] <MCSpanner1> cheers
[23:35] <DasEi> !mbr
[23:35] <luckyone> trism: sounds like I will be better off just reinstalling
[23:35] <trism> luckyone: yeah, probably
[23:35] <boss_mc> MCSpanner1: to stop it loading at boot time add it to /etc/modules/blacklist
[23:36] <lakotajames> DasEi: thanks. :)
[23:36] <inmanix> Heya guys, I'm all set! just got two question. How do I repare my dual boot having reinstalled XP?
[23:36] <MCSpanner1> ok, thanks, I was just about to ask that
[23:36] <inmanix> Need to repair grub or whatever the booter is called
[23:36] <jason__> Anyone have any idea why fdisk will not open the disk? It should be "fdisk -l /dev/sda", correct?
[23:37] <hiexpo> hello all wefinally got power back on
[23:37] <jason__> glad to hear that hiexpo
[23:37] <jason__> Power is always good,.
[23:37] <kslen> jason__, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[23:37] <hiexpo> ya was gettin cold in here
[23:37] <rahduke> one of my sata drives is a little screwed up, Disk Utility is telling me a number of my sectors are waiting to be remapped. If the sector waiting to be remapped is subsequently written or read successfully this value will be decreased.  Read Errors on the sector will not remap the sector, it will only be remapped on a failed write attempt. Basically I have a few bad sectors, whats the fastest/easiest way to fix it?
[23:37] <Jasonrj> Wow, havne't had a power outage in a while.
[23:37] <kjartanb1> when I try Ubuntu 9.10 on my HP labtop then suddenly my nic stop responding and I have to restart the computer just to get my nic back on
[23:37] <kslen> or hey, isn't -l just list? i'm confused now.. -.-
[23:38] <tweaksource> fdisk -l to display all; fdisk /dev/sdax to view a partition
[23:38] <DasEi> inmanix: karmic ?
[23:38] <MCSpanner1> boss_mc: modules appears to be a file
[23:38] <jason__> kslen.. Ima dummy.
[23:38] <jason__> Been so frustrated..
[23:38] <kslen> :D
[23:38] <kslen> been there..
[23:39] <boss_mc> MCSpanner1: sorry, modprobe.d not modules
[23:39] <DasEi> inmanix: which version of ubuntu ?
[23:39] <DasEi> !version
[23:39] <tweaksource> also find version with cat /etc/issue    :)
[23:39] <gmendoza> rahduke: if you have bad sectors, its only a matter of time before the disk starts to fail.  Will be time for a new drive.
[23:39] <inmanix> DasEi: 9.10
[23:40] <DasEi> inmanix: so karmic, see
[23:40] <DasEi> !grub2
[23:40] <n16h7f0x> can i display a image in console if a have framebuffer enabled and if so how?
[23:40] <rahduke> gmendoza: this drive is practically brand new less than a year old..... It like can't be bad
[23:40] <hardworkr> i have a ? hope someone can help me
[23:40] <MCSpanner1> boss_mc: any particular blacklist, shall I just make 'blacklist' if it is not there
[23:40] <gmendoza> rahduke: it's mechanical part.... it most certainly can.  Sorry for the bad news.
[23:40] <triple_xxx> MCSpanner1: inmanix: here you go on how to fix boot loader good luck... remember this assumes you have one hard drive...  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[23:40] <inmanix> DasEi: thanks :) i was also wondering, following my install of ubuntu where i assiged relevant partitions to /home, / and /swap - will they all be where they should be now?
[23:41] <MCSpanner1> boss_mc: blacklist.conf???
[23:41] <n16h7f0x> can i display a image in console if a have framebuffer enabled and if so how?
[23:41] <hardworkr> how do i change my password?
[23:41] <gmendoza> rahduke: what file system format is it?  ntfs?  ext3/4?
[23:41] <rahduke> gmendoza: so there is no way possible that it can be a software error and can b fixeD?
[23:41] <DasEi> inmanix: also can use superGrubDisk, an own live cd (google) , but be sure to use a version greater 1 (grub2)
[23:41] <cisco21c> DasEi: I will be needing a IDE to usb correct. This is my hard drive: http://h20141.www2.hp.com/Hpparts/PicPop.aspx?mscssid=10A0DF89A4A748B9A66A28892A1F9CD9&PN=367787-001
[23:41] <rahduke> gmendoza: its EXT3
[23:42] <rahduke> gmendoza: its literally 1 badsector..
[23:42] <hardworkr> need password help
[23:42] <gmendoza> rahduke: you can run a file system check on it... which may find the bad sectors and mark them not to be writtenn to.  but this is just a bandaid.  it won't actually repair the sectors.
[23:42] <hiexpo> what about password
[23:42] <tvjudge> Is there a way to rool back from Ubuntu Jaunty to Intrepid after doing the upgrade via the Update manager?
[23:42] <gmendoza> rahduke: and more will start to occur as the lifespan increases.
[23:42] <DasEi> cisco21c: that links is no specific model, but common lappy-drives are just 2,5" ide on that hps, so yes
[23:42] <hardworkr> i want to change my orginal password but i cant remember it
[23:42] <gmendoza> rahduke: check out fsck command
[23:43] <powertoo108> I'm trying to set my PS1 variable in bash. When I enter PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' My prompt becomes \u@\h:\w\$ and not my username at machine name etc. What am I doing wrong? I've also tried double quotes with same result.
[23:43] <rahduke> gmendoza: bandaid sound.... do i need to fsck or can i use the selftest in DiskUtility
[23:43] <jrib> !password | hardworkr
[23:43] <DasEi> hardworkr: can you boot safe mode / root with no pw-question ?
[23:43] <hardworkr> so i cant lock my laptop or update software because i cnt remember the original password
[23:44] <agreenbhm> hello world
[23:44] <DasEi> !hi
[23:44] <agreenbhm> can anyone tell me where I might have put a scheduled task on my 9.04 server?
[23:44] <agreenbhm> i posted on the forums, but so far no response
[23:44] <hiexpo> there ya go i was looking for that
[23:44] <tweaksource> quit
[23:44] <cisco21c> DasEi: Alright thanks for all the help.
[23:44] <gmendoza> rahduke: in order for you to perform a fsck on a disk, it should be unmounted.  meaning if it's your current root partition... you should do this from the recovery mode... or from a live cd environment.
[23:45] <ice_cream> hi, i recently updated and found stuff like my /etc/resolv.conf cleared
[23:45] <agreenbhm> i scheduled my server to reboot daily, but not in crontab or cron daily, mnothy, hourly, etc
[23:45] <ice_cream> why does it do this
[23:45] <rahduke> its just a storage drive..
[23:45] <gmendoza> cool
[23:45] <rahduke> i can run it from terminal no prob i think
[23:45] <agreenbhm> anyone know other places i could have scheduled that reboot task?
[23:46] <ice_cream> still no slim package
[23:46]  * ice_cream sighs
[23:46] <gmendoza> rahduke: then unmount it... and if the partition is /dev/sdb1, run "sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1"
[23:46] <DasEi> agreenbhm: they are mostly in /etc/cronBlah, the crontabs
[23:46] <rahduke> yup, thanks
[23:46] <fx420> finally
[23:46] <fx420> got this damm thing on
[23:46] <agreenbhm> dasei: unfortunately, it's not there
[23:46] <agreenbhm> i vaguely remember having issues putting it there originally, so i put it somewhere else
[23:46] <fx420> so can anyone help me out
[23:46] <agreenbhm> and my stupid ass didn't document it
[23:47] <inmanix> hmm i need a hand with restoring grub2
[23:47] <fx420> i really screwed my notebook up
[23:47] <jrib> agreenbhm: are you positive it's not cron?  You stopped cron at the time it usually reboots and it still rebooted?
[23:47] <rahduke> gmendoza: how long do u think this will take on a 400gig drive?
[23:47] <fx420> how do  i fix error 17 on grub
[23:47] <inmanix> iv mounted my ubuntu partition, then it refers to mounting a seperate /boot partition, is that incase iv spread my ubuntu /boot on another partition?
[23:47] <csh> fx420:  What did you do?
[23:48] <fx420> how do  i fix error 17 on grub
[23:48] <agreenbhm> jrib: i looked for the string that I typed, but couldn't find it anywhere
[23:48] <gmendoza> rahduke: not long...
[23:48] <jrib> agreenbhm: so the answer to my question is "no"?
[23:48] <agreenbhm> i guess so
[23:48] <rahduke> gmendoza: sweet i thought it would take forever
[23:48] <gmendoza> rahduke: few mins tops...
[23:48] <jrib> agreenbhm: what do you mean by "the string that I typed"?
[23:48] <gmendoza> rahduke: yeah no sweat, really.
[23:48] <fx420> so any quick fixs
[23:49] <GamesMedic> Does anyone know about GNUnet P2P file sharing program? I get and error daemon not running. How do I fix this?
[23:49] <fx420> my cdrom drive is going
[23:49] <hiexpo> hardworker have you got the answer yet?
[23:49] <fx420> only got  usb
[23:49] <inmanix> which devices to i need to mount to recover grub2? all of them?
[23:49] <agreenbhm> jrib: i typed something like 00 00 00 reboot or soemthing like that
[23:49] <agreenbhm> it was a long time ago
[23:49] <rahduke> gmendoza: very cool, and your saying this is not just a random bad sector, its systemic and an indication of imminent and inevitable failure of my drive
[23:49] <gmendoza> rahduke: just keep an eye on it.  if yer running 9.10 the disk monitoring works very well.  It ties into the SMART capabilities of the drive, and the warnings are there for a reason.  Just keep an eye out so you dont end up losing your data.
[23:49] <fx420> well it work if i take it out and hook it up to my desktop
[23:49] <jrib> agreenbhm: and it reboots at midnight?
[23:49] <agreenbhm> yes
[23:49] <DasEi> agreenbhm: doesnt your syslog contain info about what caused reboot ?
[23:50] <gmendoza> rahduke: Correct.  Usually... and you'll definitely start noticing system slow downs because of disk read errors.
[23:50] <agreenbhm> where is the syslog? you'll have to forgive my n00b skillz
[23:50] <jrib> agreenbhm: I'd turn of the cron daemon at 11:50 and verify it still reboots
[23:50] <jrib> off even
[23:50] <hardworkr> is there a safe way to reset my password somehow i forgot it
[23:50] <DasEi> agreenbhm: /var/log/syslog
[23:50] <rahduke> gmendoza: yea it's been randomly not showing the files on it and sometimes not even mounting during boot
[23:50] <jrib> hardworkr: read the link ubottu gave you before.
[23:50] <DasEi> hardworkr: can you boot safe mode / root with no pw-question ?
[23:51] <fx420> i had to go out and buy a pci & ata raid and ide controller will this work so i can wipe my hard drive or fix the error 17
[23:51] <gmendoza> rahduke: yeah, signs for sure.
[23:51] <csh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 -- error seventeen
[23:51] <gmendoza> rahduke: sorry for the bad news.  happens a lot though.
[23:51] <rahduke> gmendoza: yup, just never got a good advance warning before....
[23:51] <hardworkr> jrib i have that link open
[23:51] <agreenbhm> i'm checking the logs now
[23:51] <inmanix> anyone possibly quickly run me through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD <--
[23:51] <fx420> its  a blank partition
[23:51] <jrib> hardworkr: read it :)
[23:51] <gmendoza> rahduke: yeah isn't that nice of Ubuntu?
[23:52] <gmendoza> hehe
[23:52] <Like> Like in washington DC
[23:52] <rahduke> gmendoza: i think i was happier being blissfully unaware...lol
[23:52] <fx420> i pretty much did the same to my desktop on purpose
[23:52] <gmendoza> LOL
[23:52] <fx420> so i can fig. it out
[23:52] <gmendoza> rahduke: tell me about it.  cheaper that way.
[23:52] <fx420> and i did
[23:52] <hardworkr> i am jrib just worried I might damage something lol
[23:52] <hiexpo> hardworkr - go here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[23:52] <fx420> i know why it does that error 17
[23:53] <jrib> hardworkr: it should be a single command, you can't really damage anything
[23:53] <fx420> yupp
[23:53] <triple_xxx> Like: HULK live in bruce banner
[23:53] <hardworkr> ok jrib thank you i will try it
[23:53] <fx420> all i new to do i think of a way to boot for the usb
[23:53] <agreenbhm> jrib: this is what i found in the log: Jan 20 01:00:01 ubuntuEHCP /USR/SBIN/CRON[16763]: (root) CMD (  reboot)
[23:53] <agreenbhm> *apparently it reboots at 1am
[23:54] <jrib> agreenbhm: with cron...
[23:54] <rahduke> gmendoza: so this is basically going to quarantine my bad sector and make my read as a smaller drive?
[23:54] <Cool> HELLO?
[23:54] <fx420> any1 know how to make a flash drive to  boot past the grub
[23:54] <Cool>  :)
[23:55] <agreenbhm> jrib: but where is this configured, then?
[23:55] <Like> Dx
[23:55] <fx420> what if i put a jumper
[23:55] <fx420> you think that might work
[23:55] <jrib> agreenbhm: did you check root's crontab?  Did you check /etc/crontab ?  Did you check /etc/cron* ?
[23:55] <asdff> Can anyone help me troubleshoot the Xorg process on my Ubuntu Karmic OS? Sometimes it randomly flares up causing 100% CPU consumption (up from 3-4%)
[23:55] <Cool> ola
[23:55] <inmanix>     *        Now you need to edit the /etc/default/grub file to fit your system   $ nano /etc/default/grub - thats confusing me big time
[23:55] <Cool> pessoas :))
[23:55] <genii> Weird, my flash drives don't seem to come with jumpers
[23:55] <agreenbhm> jrib: root's crontab? what you you mean?
[23:56] <GamesMedic> Can anyone recommend a good P2P filesharing app?
[23:56] <agreenbhm> i checked /etc/crontab and /etc/cron*
[23:56] <fx420> well you got alot of reading
[23:56] <DasEi> !crontab | agreenbhm
[23:56] <asdff> GamesMedic: torrent clients.
[23:56] <fx420> i hate reading
[23:56] <asdff> Can anyone help me troubleshoot the Xorg process on my Ubuntu Karmic OS? Sometimes it randomly flares up causing 100% CPU consumption (up from 3-4%)
[23:56] <rahduke> gmendoza: ahhh Error reading block 56492034 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>?
[23:56] <rahduke> what should i do?
[23:56] <fx420> well what did you do to get that
[23:56] <fx420> asdff
[23:57] <DasEi> rahduke: have you got a live cd ?
[23:57] <asdff> yeah?
[23:57] <fx420> what did u open
[23:57] <fx420> to load
[23:57] <Cool> My name is Gabriella, I AM BRAZILIAN
[23:57] <rahduke> DasEi:  im running fsck on a storage drive from within an ubuntu install
[23:57] <jrib> agreenbhm: sudo -i, then crontab -e
[23:57] <Cool> HELLO?
[23:57] <anil56554> cool: what
[23:57] <asdff> fx420: nothing. most of the time I am doing normal desktop behaviour and then suddenly it spikes annoyingly. The most recent occurence I just rebooted, logged in, and it was immediately at 100% cpu usage. Before then it occured after running VLC.
[23:57] <pilif12p> cool: can you stop yelling please?
[23:58] <Cool> NOT
[23:58] <ccnlab> can I get Flash 9 for Jaunty? I uninstalled Flash 10 because its buggy
[23:58] <inmanix> Now you need to edit the /etc/default/grub file to fit your system <--------- anyone help me out with this please
[23:58] <ccnlab> 64 bit
[23:58] <pilif12p> Please. Stop yelling
[23:58] <Pupuser402-1> ok here we go
[23:58] <fx420> so you got networking things up
[23:58] <Cool> HOTTTT
[23:58] <asdff> fx420: ofc
[23:58] <pilif12p> Are you going to make me call the ops?
[23:58] <DasEi> rahduke: fine, with drive not mounted, 1) e2fsck -p /dev/whatEver,  if that throws error, try w/o -p option
[23:58] <Cool> habbo.com
[23:58] <jrib> !br | Cool
[23:58] <Cool> habbo.uk
[23:58] <fx420> thats why  i dont really do that
[23:58] <asdff> oh jesus habbo hotel
[23:58] <genii> Cool: Please  behave and no adverts
[23:58] <gmendoza> rahduke: you know I should have had you run the command with the -p option.
[23:58] <DasEi> !ot | cool
[23:59] <fx420> it happening to me when i had someone tring to hack in
[23:59] <gmendoza> check out the man page on fsck.ext3 for more info.  I will be back in a few.
[23:59] <rahduke> umm so should i run e2fsck -p or just fsck -p  ??
[23:59] <genii> !br | Cool
[23:59] <fx420> either or do you got wireless
[23:59] <agreenbhm> jrib: i do crontab -e and nothing is there except a commented out example
[23:59] <gmendoza> fsck.ext3 -p
[23:59] <gmendoza> brb
[23:59] <asdff> fx420: are you talking to me llol? if so yeah I have wireless
[23:59] <jrib> agreenbhm: you did this as root?
[23:59] <DasEi> rahduke: e2.. in first try, like said