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deadSnowmanHas anyone had a problem with shutdown -r now unmounting everything?00:54
geniiMight want to sync removable drives, etc00:57
Sachse_SiechtumHello. I have a problem with installing my wireless on xubuntu01:20
Ninjaanybody in here?02:37
subspiderhi03:07
subspiderguys i need to see stting of my firewall is that possible03:08
xubunoobieHas anyone had any trouble connecting wirelessly to a Netgear router.  Xubuntu 9.1003:21
subspiderwhat is you error03:22
subspider?? xubunoobie03:22
xubunoobieI am having trouble connecting to the internet by my wireless router.  My computer with XP can connect, and I went to a computer lab that has a linksys router and I was able to connect with my Xubuntu laptop, but for some reason, I cannot connect to my home Netgear router.  (I just installed Xubuntu and just got internet at home)03:24
xubunoobieI googled the problem and there were old posts of people having this problem connecting to Netgear routers with older versions of Ubuntu.  Unfortunately there were no solutions posted.03:26
Balsaqsomeone wants me to scan their IP for hnoypot test...is that ok?03:33
Balsaqhoneypot test i meant?03:33
sparky_anyone online?04:15
sparky_a question04:16
sparky_i just made a stupid mistake :(04:16
sparky_i downloaded the 64bit version of xubuntu04:16
sparky_is there ayway to create the 32bit version without redownloading the whole thing?04:17
gdubbusmm, no.. sorry04:24
gdubbusI suggest using a bittorrent, might go faster04:24
sparky_:( Oh well04:24
sparky_nah it's just because of usage lol04:24
sparky_another question. i'm trying to use an ubuntu OS on a G3 imac. what should I use?04:25
sparky_I was thinking xubuntu because it has the lowest requirements04:25
gdubbusxubuntu is a good choice.. I have a really old laptop p3 750 mhz and xubuntu actually feels like a normal os on the thing04:27
gdubbusThere's even lighter distros but not as fully featured04:27
sparky_well they have 300mhz and about 190mb of ram lol :(04:27
Balsaqxubuntu is the best in my opinion by puppy is the fastest on really old computers04:28
sparky_like wat?04:28
gdubbuspuppy for one04:29
sparky_ok i'm looking at it now04:29
gdubbusI've used it, the curve was little much for me being new to linux and all04:29
gdubbusdistrowatch.com is a great sight for checking out alot of distros if your shopping around04:30
sparky_i'll look at that site04:31
Balsaqi have puppylinux in a 450mgz computer with 256 ram and is fast on even that04:31
sparky_basically the g3's are going to be given away to be used as a starter computer for those who can't afford one04:32
sparky_so user friendliness is necessary :)04:32
Balsaqpuppy is tough to install but easy to use once installed....04:32
Balsaqbut the dadgum puppylinux support channel i so nowhere near as good as this one04:33
sparky_ok04:34
sparky_i'm downloading puppy now as it's only 100mb lol04:35
Balsaqits fun04:35
gdubbuswow, I forgot how small it was04:35
sparky_:) so slow to download though as it's not from an aussie server :( oh well04:36
Balsaqugh04:36
sparky_i'll try it though will probably go with xubuntu04:36
sparky_and thanks for the quick help :)04:36
Balsaq:)04:36
sparky_also, a question. i'm using virtualbox to test the OS's at the moment on my computer04:38
sparky_if i set it to say 200mb of ram will that come close to simulating actually running it on a computer with 200mb of ram?04:38
Balsaqhelp...i know zero about virtual box....i installed puppy right onto the HD of a desktop and thats it04:39
sparky_ok then ty04:40
sparky_anyway04:40
sparky_i pressume you run xubuntu on your computer or not????04:40
sparky_what's your main OS is my question really04:40
Balsaqi have 9 desktops all with their own distro04:41
Balsaqyes i have xubuntu04:41
sparky_WOW!!04:41
sparky_lol04:41
Balsaqmy main is xp pro sp3, next is xubuntu and on from there04:41
sparky_ok lol04:41
sparky_wat do u use the xubuntu one mainly for?04:41
Balsaqbut as i learn xubuntu, it is going to pass up xp04:41
Balsaqi use it to learn linux04:42
gdubbusI use xubuntu for everything but games04:42
Balsaqand too surf the net as it doesnt get virus04:42
Balsaqi only use xp to keep fresh on it becasue we have it at work04:42
sparky_yah at one point i considered switching to an ubuntu of some kind but games + hating open office stopped me04:42
Balsaqi wish i had learned on xubuntu from the start now04:43
sparky_i should dual boot windows and ubuntu at some point04:43
Balsaqi have then all on their own04:43
gdubbussome will tell you that wine is a good method of gaming on linux... they lie, its awful. I have a windows 7 partition thats exclusively for modern warfare II and starcraft lol04:43
sparky_nice :)04:43
Balsaqpclinuxos is really cool too04:43
sparky_what about wine for office?04:44
sparky_again, bad?04:44
gdubbusmmm, haven't experimented with office apps in it04:44
Balsaqone thing i noticed is xubuntu 904 is still better that the new one...91004:45
sparky_ok04:45
sparky_i tried open office on windows as i couldn't afford office but  hated it04:45
gdubbusyeah.. I've had some problems with 9.10 which is what I'm using at the moment... I'm actually planning on installing debian and using xcfe as my window manager04:46
sparky_wow after just about being finished. puppy failed downloading :(04:48
Balsaqbummer04:48
Balsaqthere are places here that will send you the hard disk for like 4 dollars04:48
Balsaqi really like xubuntu but puppy is superior for older stuff04:49
sparky_yah but I'm in Australia so it probably costs more. i think i'll go with xubuntu. i'll download tomorrow04:50
Balsaqcool04:50
sparky_actually i'll try to download puppy tomorrow as well :)04:52
sparky_found a good review of it etc so we'll see04:52
Balsaqbelieve me its awesome04:52
Balsaqjust a pain to install04:52
sparky_will puppy work on a mac though?04:52
Balsaqbut i know how to install it04:52
Balsaqdunno04:53
sparky_kk04:53
Balsaqgo to #puppylinux and they may know04:53
pdg1quick poll... what does everyone use for FTP? I'm looking for something lightweight that will work well with my xbox/XBMC and i have no idea what makes one FTP app work and another one not work07:20
TheSheeppdg1: I like lftp08:12
pdg1TheSheep, thanks :D08:47
roflcopterhey09:56
Sysiohai09:56
lollypophey09:56
roflcopteri have a problem: i bought ubuntu in a software-shop09:56
lollypopO.o09:56
lollypopwhat have you paid?09:56
roflcopter49,99€09:57
Sysi:O09:57
lollypopthat's really cheap09:57
roflcopterwhat's the matter?09:57
roflcopteryeah, i thought that too09:57
Sysiisn't it like 5$ or something on canonical store?09:57
lollypopi've bought it for 'bout 500€09:57
roflcopterlol09:58
roflcopter5$? this is 1€09:58
roflcopterso you paid 1/49,99 of mine09:58
roflcopterfuck09:58
Sysii'll check09:58
lollypopsomebody told me you could get it illegally for free but i didn't want illegal softwar09:58
Sysii paid nothing, just downloaded09:59
Sysiubuntu is legally free, you know09:59
lollypopO.o09:59
roflcopterokay a bit too low ^^ let it be about 1,43$ is 1€09:59
lollypopdidn't knew it09:59
roflcopterlegally?09:59
roflcopternot in europe09:59
roflcopteror lets say france ^^09:59
lollypopyeah heard the same10:00
lollypopdamn10:00
roflcopteri hate beeing born in france10:00
roflcopter-.-10:00
lollypoplol10:00
roflcopterwhat?!10:00
roflcopterso okay10:00
roflcoptermy problem is, that when i want to start CS portable, it doesn't start10:01
lollypopaah10:01
roflcopterwho can help me?10:01
lollypopme^^10:01
lollypophttp://www.google.to10:01
roflcopterhö?10:01
lollypophttp://www.deinemudder.de10:01
lollypophttp://www.hdf.de10:02
roflcopterkay10:02
roflcopterthanks10:02
roflcopteri will visit10:02
lollypopthat should help you ;)10:02
roflcopterhey! this are fucking fake sites10:02
lollypopwtf?!10:02
Sysiwhat you're doing with double nicks?10:02
lollypoppadron?10:03
roflcopterwhat?10:03
lollypop*pardon10:03
Sysi11:54  --> lollypop [n=HasMa@p548DE107.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu10:03
Sysi11:56  --> roflcopter [n=HemDo@p548DE107.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu10:03
roflcopterPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenis10:03
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Sysi!ops10:03
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville10:03
roflcopterP10:04
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roflcopter[11:03] <roflcopter> PenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenisPenis10:04
lollypoproflcopter: what are you doing?10:04
roflcoptersry... tourette-syndrome10:04
pownderlol10:04
lollypoprofl10:04
roflcopteryeah, many french have this illness10:04
roflcopterwe call it our language10:04
Sysii've called ops10:05
roflcopterOHOOO10:05
roflcopterand a called the cops10:05
roflcopter:D:D10:05
suck-my-dickxD10:05
=== suck-my-dick is now known as anti-roflcopter
roflcopterawwww ^^10:05
=== anti-roflcopter is now known as lolcopter
Sysithis is like waiting for taxi10:06
roflcopterwhat?10:06
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Sysinever present when you need them10:06
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Sysi!ops10:06
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville10:06
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Sysiignore ♥10:07
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lolcopter!ops10:07
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville10:07
lolcopter^^10:07
roflcopter<310:07
pownderlol10:07
lolcopterpenispumpennutzer10:07
lolcopter@ roflcopter10:07
roflcopteryeah?10:07
pownderright10:07
roflcopterokay10:07
lolcoptersuck my dig10:08
roflcoptererm10:08
roflcopterno10:08
lolcopteri'm going away10:08
roflcopteri like sucking the dig of my dog10:08
roflcopterhe is a chihuaha10:08
roflcopteror how it is written10:08
Sysiyour sense of humour isn't weird, just bad10:08
roflcopteri am a french i know not al lot10:08
roflcopterPENIS10:09
roflcoptersry10:09
roflcopteragain tourette-syndrome10:09
suck-my-dicklool10:09
pownderlooooooooooooooool10:09
suck-my-dick<- that's what you've gonna do10:09
roflcoptervery good english10:10
Sysioh, you're gay too?10:10
roflcopteryeah10:10
suck-my-dickyeah10:10
Sysithanks10:10
wemakeyousoundbathis convo sure looked mighty interesting :??:10:16
jussi01hrm, loving it that they strike just when I head out for lunch...10:26
tavastiis these some simple possibility to add launcher to panel for programs in Apllications-menu?12:04
tavastiadding launcher and configuring name, icon, command, etc is bit too complicated12:05
knomecurrently, no.12:05
tavastiok, nice to know12:06
tavastiI was thinking I am too stupid to use GUI12:06
mr_pouittavasti: actually, instead of manually entering name, icon, command, etc, you can drag and drop a desktop file from /usr/share/applications, and all fields should be filled in magically12:50
tavastithanks, that's lot better12:56
becker_11I'm about to compile a program from a source tarball but the only thing not clear is do I need to create a folder for the prog before I compile it and run everything from there or will the compile script do that for me??14:04
sinboxuntar then cd to that directory and work in there, should do it all for you (hopefully) :), just in case make-install is the way to go for easy uninstall later on14:07
becker_11thanks sinbox14:07
becker_11is compiling something yourself the only way to go if you need a newer version of a program than is avail in the repos? I even installed the ppa and it still wasn't the latest version14:08
TheSheepbecker_11: you could also build your own deb, it's not complicated14:09
sinboxif the version you want is not in the repos then yes you need to build yourself, it's not as bad as it sounds when you've never done it actually14:09
becker_11transmission btw latest repo is 1.76 newest stable is 1.80 and the feature I need is in 1.8014:09
becker_11sinbox,  yeah it looks easy14:10
becker_11TheSheep,  I'll have a look via google, thanks14:10
ablomenbecker_11, there might also be a ppa for that particular application14:10
ablomenyou might want to look for that first14:10
sinboxmake-install actually creates a deb file and you can use it without actually installing when you compile14:10
becker_11ablomen, there is but the latest version is 1.76 not what is showing on their site which is 1.80-stable14:11
sinboxnow if anyone has an easy solution to get a canon printer to work I'll take it, somehow I doubt it though14:11
becker_11rm -rf install windows14:11
* becker_11 ducks now14:11
ablomensinbox, put a hp sticker on it, afaik canon printers hardly ever work14:11
knomeablomen, and you suggest hp printers work?14:12
sinboxI did get it to work, on 7.10 but that was 2 years ago and I forgot the hoops I had to jump through, also I'm now running lxde on top of a minimal install, but I'll try the sticker idea ablomen14:12
ablomenknome, i never had a hp printer not working on me, a3, old plotters, laser and colorjets all work for me anyway14:12
knomeablomen, couldn't you feel the irony there? :P14:13
becker_11sinbox,  whats the model n#14:13
sinboxMP160, guess I will just have to go back to the forum and get alien as the canon drivers only come in rpm form :/14:13
petsoundshi. what is the name of menu editor in xfce? in gnome it's alacarte. thanks14:14
knomepetsounds, hello, there is no menu editor in 4.6. your welcome.14:14
knome*you're14:14
ablomenknome, hehe nvm me, havnt had close to enough coffee today ;)14:14
becker_11sinbox, http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-mp16014:15
becker_11stated to work PERFECTLY14:15
petsoundsknome, can i use alacarte in xubuntu?14:15
sinboxbeen there becker_11 it does work perfectly                                            ...                                       once you worked out how to actually install the bloody thing14:15
knomepetsounds, no, it doesn't quite work.14:16
becker_11sinbox, sorry mate14:16
sinboxnot like you did anything wrong becker_11 , I shouldn't have brought the printer before doing some reading is all :)14:17
knomesinbox, you can either use alien or build from source ;]14:17
petsoundsknome, ok. merci beaucoup for the info.14:17
knomepetsounds, np14:17
sinboxknome, the source comes as src.rpm file, so I'll need to extract that anyway, I think I'll still need alien to do that properly14:18
sinboxfunnily enough the scanning works out the box via xsane14:18
knomesinbox, heh14:18
knomesinbox, well good luck14:18
becker_11doesn't help you but just looking at it over at canon it's  a nice printer14:19
knomesomebosy cast a spell that removes my headache14:19
sinboxthanks *goes to grab a box of aspirin*14:19
knomelol :D14:19
knomei think i need some pills myseld14:19
knome*myself14:19
knomegosh, this ache is stopping my from writing correctly14:20
knome*me ...14:20
becker_11not surprising14:20
knomewell i already took 1000mg of paracetamol14:22
knomenow i took 800mg of ibuprofen14:22
ablomenknome, now some alcohol and the cocktail is complete14:24
knomemah14:25
knome*nah14:25
knomemaybe later :D14:25
knomei'm soon going to play board games14:25
knomei hope to fix my head before that14:25
knomeanyway, have fun everybody and see you later o/14:25
sinboxlater14:26
ablomenbye14:26
* sinbox just realised that installing the foomatic-db will probably help him14:26
likemindeadWhee!14:35
eXpl0i7lol14:36
=== highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage
Pres-GasGood morrow, all.14:47
MrNazwhere do i tell Xubuntu to NOT open a new thunar window when i plug in removable storage devices ?15:11
ablomenMrNaz, settings manager => removable media15:14
ablomenMrNaz, theres a checkbox there with browse removable media when inserted, uncheck that :015:15
ablomen* :)15:15
ablomenehm removable drives and media15:15
MrNazthanks15:18
MrNazis there a way to make all removable drives work in synchronous write mode?15:19
MrNazdelayed write is idiotic on removable media15:20
ablomenMrNaz, you can look into udev rules, im guessing you will have to fiddle with that15:22
MrNazugh15:23
MrNazit should be default15:23
ablomenwell write a bug report then :)15:23
ablomenthat way the people in power can fix it so in the future it is15:24
MrNazif linux devs need a bug report to tell them that synchronous writes make sense on removable media, then they have bigger issues than me not giving feedback15:24
TheSheepMrNaz: personally I would prefer to not destroy my flash drives with lots of tiny writes15:31
TheSheepMrNaz: flash drive lifetime is measured in the number of writes, you know15:32
MrNazyea, but the chances of actually hitting those limits, even with lots of tiny writes, is pretty remote15:32
TheSheepMrNaz: I alread threw away a few usb flashdrives because I hit those limits15:33
MrNazmaybe 3 or 4 years ago that was the case... but with current gen flash memory, you can safely use it for swap space and get better life than a spinning disk's mtbf15:33
* ablomen gets the fire extinguisher15:33
MrNazwell... according to the statistical boffins anyway15:33
TheSheepMrNaz: maybe xubuntu defaults should not be tuned for users who use their computers once a week15:34
MrNazeh?15:34
TheSheepMrNaz: this kind of discussion is exactly the reason to have a bug report- so that you can document all pros and cons15:34
TheSheepMrNaz: of course you are not obligued to give back to the projects that you use15:35
MrNazTypical user thinks: Copy dialog disappeared. Ergo, copy is finished. I can pull the drive. WIth sync writes, that's the case. Currently, the user has to know that in the background, there's still data to be written, and they have to do a safe umount before they can *really* pull the drive.15:35
MrNazTheSheep i use a fair few projects, and i am active in quite a few15:35
MrNazTheSheep last time i brought this up on a mailing list i was told to go make my own distro15:36
TheSheepMrNaz: I''m sure your mind-reading skills are very useful in usability testing, you should definitely report that bug :)15:36
MrNazTheSheep mind reading not necessary. I've done a stint as usability tester for business apps, and its pretty easy to see what a user is thinking just by looking over their shoulder15:37
MrNazand watching them pull a drive after the copy dialog is finished doesnt require any special ESP15:37
TheSheepyou are barking up the wrong tree, this is a support channel, we help people, if you want this to be considered, write a bug report, if you just want to rant, write a blog post15:38
TheSheepsorry, gotta run :)15:38
MrNazhmm... a blog post... damn good idea15:38
Goliathhow can i fix this error? http://pastebin.com/m574502e119:17
SMQBlothello, if you activate the proposed and backports reposar, updated the system so as to obtain new package before the next ubuntu-release?19:18
SMQBlotlol, google translate translated that all worng :-P19:19
charlie-tcaSMQBlot: If you activate proposed and backports, you will get updates that are not fully tested and may break the system.19:19
SMQBlotcharlie-tca, like firefox 3.6?19:20
charlie-tcaIf it is in proposed, yes19:20
SMQBlotcharlie-tca, does activating those reposes usually brake the system, is it very risky?19:20
charlie-tcaLucid is using firefox 3.5.7 right now, so is Xubuntu 9.10. The problem is if it breaks the system, you are on your own fixing it.19:21
SMQBlotyeah, since its unsupported19:21
SMQBlotcant you ask in the ubuntu dev channel?19:21
charlie-tcaIt is very risky. I run the development version of Xubuntu, and sometimes can't start the gui for several days at a time19:21
SMQBlotcharlie-tca, hm19:22
charlie-tcaYou can ask anywhere, but may not get an answer other than reinstall without the backports19:22
charlie-tcas/backports/proposed19:22
charlie-tcaNot all the proposed gets into the main distributions19:22
SMQBlotcharlie-tca, well guess ill have to see, i have used those all for several years, and no breakage as i can remember19:22
charlie-tcaOkay19:23
SMQBlotcharlie-tca, hm ok, why?19:23
charlie-tcaProposed is just that, apps that are proposed/suggested. Some will get approval, and some won't.19:23
SMQBloti see19:23
SMQBlotwell the system will be more cutting edge with those anyway, i will use them, and if things brake, reinstall19:24
charlie-tcaalso, see : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports19:24
SMQBlotim planning on buying a second hdd so i can sync my home on it19:24
charlie-tcaAre you using lucid?19:24
SMQBlotno19:24
SMQBlot9.1019:25
charlie-tcaLucid is cutting edge.19:25
charlie-tcaalso, you might want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases19:25
SMQBlotill just go with the current stable release, and with those reposes, i need a usable system19:25
SMQBlotif i buy another computer i can use this as testing machine19:27
charlie-tcatrue19:27
charlie-tcabut using cutting edge, you still take a chance on this machine going down...19:27
SMQBlothm19:27
SMQBlothave you heard of people having bugs with those reposes?19:29
SMQBlotcause people that im talking too now say they have no noticeable bugs with them19:30
charlie-tcaIt is up to you. Bugs are usually not reportable with proposed applications.19:31
SMQBlotyeah19:31
SMQBlotguess ill have to see what happens, too late now anyway :-P19:31
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