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huhlighow can I make in kubuntu just that the default is us00:00
rahmucrimsun http://pastebin.com/m436945f00:00
huhligit says it in the kde control panel00:00
crimsunrahmu: from that pastebin, nothing is actually trying to play sound00:00
rahmubut i have chrome playing a youtube video00:01
crimsunrahmu: did you actually use the command I gave you?00:01
rahmusudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* this is what I used00:02
rahmuwhen I use Kaffeine and when I log in/out the sound actually works00:02
crimsunrahmu: have you created any asoundrc ?00:03
crimsunrahmu: can you reproduce the symptom using firefox-3.5?00:03
rahmuI don't think so (don't know what's an asoundrc)00:03
crimsunrahmu: but, from that output, it's pretty clear to me you aren't getting any sound because the app isn't even trying to use the sound device00:04
rahmu I ran Kaffeine, it appeared in the output of the command. When I ran Firefox+youtube, it didn't00:05
rahmuwhy is Kaffeine the only one using the sound device? (that IS working)00:05
crimsunrahmu: that depends how Phonon and Kaffeine are configured. How /are/ they configured?00:06
rahmudefault00:06
rahmubtw thx for your help/patience00:06
crimsunrahmu: either take a screenshot, or describe, please.00:06
crimsunrahmu: I have no idea what "default" means /for you/00:06
rahmuOk last "fresh" install was Jaunty. I was using Gnome. then upgraded to Karmic. No problem there. Then installed kubuntu-dekstop package, problem appeared magically. If I log in in GNOME, no sound at all00:08
chris062689Does anyone remember that article on LIFEHACKER that there was website where you would draw a crude picture, and it would piece together the picture using images found on google?  It was a really neat webapp but I can't find it anymore.00:10
rahmuDon't know what to add. I am using 'legit' repos for downloads and update. Never had sound problems before. No special config was involved. Problems appeared as soon as I tried KDE (kubuntu-desktop)00:10
crimsunrahmu: err, you were using GNOME?  Is pulseaudio running?  pgrep pulse00:10
rahmuyep00:11
crimsunyep to which?00:11
rahmupulse running00:11
rahmugot a PID00:11
BluesKajchris062689, why are you asking here ..this chat isn't a support channel mfor webapps00:11
crimsunrahmu: something is very, very wrong, then.  It should have appeared in your fuser output.00:12
crimsunrahmu: echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio00:12
rahmuoutput: no00:13
rahmuand "The program pulseaudio closed unexpectedly" (GUI alert)00:13
crimsunrahmu: huh?  It should be autospawn = no00:14
rahmuexactly. My mistake. autospawn = no00:14
crimsunrahmu: so now you need to decide if you want to keep using PulseAudio00:15
crimsunrahmu: if you do, you need to configure KDE System Settings > Multimedia, and set PulseAudio to the highest/topmost priority00:15
rahmuwhat are the alternatives?00:16
crimsunrahmu: either you use it, or you don't.00:16
crimsunit's pretty straightforward.00:16
rahmuit was in the lowest priority. what are the benefits/disadvantages of putting it on top?00:17
rahmu(if you don't mind me asking)00:17
crimsun/don't/ put it at the top if you don't use PulseAudio00:18
rahmusay i want to use it. I put it at the top. What next?00:18
crimsunthen you rm ~/.pulse/client.conf, logout, and login00:19
rahmuok brb00:19
rahmucrimsun: I logged out/in, now sound has completely disappeared. Even Kaffeine doesn't have sound. I run the fuser command again, Pulsaudio appeared in the output, but Kaffeine doesn't anymore ...00:24
rahmu(am also playing youtube vids on both chrome and firefox. they don't appear in the output of fuser)00:25
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rahmucrimsun: are you still here?00:29
Fanfare[afk]rahmu: another way is to completely remove pulesaudio, but i dont know bout gnome then...00:31
crimsunrahmu: check your volumes.00:31
crimsunrahmu: please pastebin precisely the command you're using00:31
crimsunbah00:31
rahmuFanfare[afk] I don't mind removing pulseaudio. I don't use gnome anymore (for the time being)00:37
rahmucrimsun: checked my volumes. no problem there00:37
crimsun19:31 < crimsun> rahmu: please pastebin precisely the command you're using00:39
rahmuthe fuser one?00:39
crimsunrahmu: I need to see the command /and/ its output.  Yes.00:39
rahmuhttp://pastebin.com/m70c3555c00:40
crimsunrahmu: is that with an application playing a movie/music file?00:41
rahmuyes00:41
crimsunrahmu: ok, back to basics, since something is really screwed on your system.00:42
crimsunrahmu: first, can you hear output from: speaker-test -c2 -l100:42
rahmuno00:43
crimsunrahmu: pastebin output from the following commands: pactl stat && amixer -Dhw:000:43
rahmuhttp://pastebin.com/m4dd797e300:44
crimsunrahmu: and you only have one sound card, correct?00:45
rahmuyes00:46
crimsunrahmu: do you hear anything from: speaker-test -c2 -l1 -Dplughw:000:46
DarkwingDuckhmm, dragon player keeps crashing when I try to play a DVD. Do I need to install a DVD codec?00:47
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rahmucrimsun: I don't hear anything and I get error message: Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy00:47
crimsunrahmu: likely due to PA being active.  Try: pasuspender -- speaker-test -c2 -l1 -Dplughw:000:47
rahmuheard the noise00:48
crimsungreat, so something in PA is fubar.  Please disable autospawn and use pulseaudio -vvvv > ~/pulseaudio.log 2>&100:49
rahmuhow to disable autospawn? kill the process?00:50
rahmucrimsun: http://pastebin.com/m401b363e             the content of pulseaudio.log00:55
crimsunrahmu: cat ~/.pulse/client.conf01:03
crimsunrahmu: if the line autospawn = no  is not in it, use the command I gave you above01:03
crimsunrahmu: then, killall pulseaudio  and use the pulseaudio -vvvv command I gave you above01:03
rahmuno such file (client.conf)01:04
crimsunso create it using the echo command I gave you previously01:04
crimsunshould be in your shell history01:04
rahmuI used this one (just making sure)  echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio01:05
rahmuthe pulseaudio -vvvv is taking quite some time now01:06
crimsundid you try playing something?01:07
rahmucommand is still executing but sound has come back to firefox01:08
rahmuok apparently sound is back everywhere. But command is still executing01:09
crimsunthat's expected.01:09
crimsunit's normally daemonized when you login, but you're running it in the foreground01:09
crimsunso, PA works fine, and your apps work fine01:10
rahmuyes01:10
rahmuhow to configure it for next login?01:10
crimsunlooks like an initialization race, then.01:10
rahmu"initialization race"?01:11
crimsunPA and some other app are fighting01:11
rahmuok01:11
daskreechDarkwingDuck: I would hope so01:12
crimsunI'll upload a new version of PA to the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA for karmic in a bit01:12
crimsunrahmu: if it happens in the future, killall pulseaudio and restart it01:12
rahmuusing pulseaudio -vvvv ?01:13
crimsunrahmu: yes, and please attach the log to a bug report01:13
rahmunever did that before, can you tell me how to do it properly pls (give the developers something useful)?01:14
crimsunrahmu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log is the process that we would like you to use.01:14
crimsunrahmu: to file a bug, it's as simple as "ubuntu-bug pulseaudio"01:14
rahmucrimsun: ok i will. Thank you so much for helping out. I owe you one big time. If there's anything I could do, do not hesitate01:16
Autoscum!vmware01:16
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poyntzis it possible to "Open Containing Folder" in firefox with dolphin ? if so, how?01:20
crimsunrahmu: no prob01:22
Autoscum!VirtualBox01:25
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daskreechponytz: Yes01:33
daskreechpoyntz: Yes01:33
xerohello can someone help me please i installed kubuntu and when i did i partitioned a fat 32 drive for my storage but i cannot read or wright to it could someone please explain how i go about fixing that problem?01:36
xeroi used to know how but i forgot :)(01:37
xero:(01:37
poyntzdaskreech: how ?01:38
xerobeen using kubuntu on and off for a fiew years now01:38
xeroanyone help please?01:38
a51tsi'm trying to remove "Dragon Player", and it's asking to remove "kubuntu-desktop" as a dependency... what should I do?01:38
xeroare you using kpkg get?01:38
a51tsi'm using kpackagemanager01:39
a51ts*kpackagekit01:39
xeroyou dont have to remove a programs dependencys01:39
xeroit just asks if you want to01:39
Fanfare[afk]a51ts: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package...01:39
apersona51ts, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package01:39
a51tsso it's safe to remove?01:39
xeroaperson got it01:39
apersonno, Fanfare[afk] did :)01:39
a51tsok, thanks all 3 of you :)01:39
xerolol01:40
Fanfare[afk]aperson: no?01:40
xerocan someone tell me how to make my storage partition in fat 32 acessable i cant rember :(01:40
xerowhats the command..01:40
xerowant read wright download like i do with my / partition01:40
xerohmm ok01:41
xeroguess ill just have to mount it :(01:41
poyntzdaskreech: are you there?01:42
daskreechpoyntz: Yes01:43
daskreechxero: mount it with the proper right?01:45
xeroyeah01:45
xeroim doin that now01:45
xeroi used to know a way to make it acessable without mounting tho01:45
daskreechHow do you even get to it without mounting it?01:45
xeromounting becomes a pain im automounting gona edit my fstab01:46
xeroi hate this01:46
xeroi cant rember01:46
xerosome command that lets you acess storage and read wright wtihout mounting01:46
xerobeen like a year since i used unix01:46
xerogot on a hardcore game kick forgot how much i missed it lol01:46
Fanfare[afk]xero: adding to /etc/fstab?01:47
xeroyeah :(01:47
xeroi dont like editing fstab accadently crashed my comp lasttime lol01:47
xeroall because of one little mistake01:47
xeroanyway ill make it happen thanks tho01:48
daskreechpoyntz: http://luisfpg.blogspot.com/2009/04/making-firefox-open-files-honoring-kdes.html01:50
foormeahi01:51
daskreech!hi01:52
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!01:52
foormeai just installed a kubuntu on my brand new eeepc 1201n. firefox and thunderbird have HUGE FONT menus, how could i fix that? (menus are ok-sized for other apps, at least kde ones)01:52
xeroich ok im not as good as i rember lol got a simpler way to make my storage partition read wrightable?01:52
apersonif you want a gui to do it, pysdm can edit your fstab for you, xero01:52
xeroyeah i downloaded that lol01:52
xerowas lazy but aparentley i can allredy read wright01:53
xerofrustrated :(01:53
JontheEchidnafoormea: In System Settings, go Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance01:54
foormeaJontheEchidna: ah excellent! thanks, i'll try and let you know01:55
JontheEchidnathen make any change and hit applet01:55
JontheEchidna*apply01:55
JontheEchidnayou can even change the setting you had to change back to what it was, the thing is just to get it to save the settings01:55
iconmefistoxero: if you have write access, what's the problem?01:56
foormeaJontheEchidna: mh, i cannot change anything...01:56
xerolol i dont tho01:56
xeroit just says i do01:56
xeroall my downoads are stalled01:56
xeroand it says i dont have permission01:56
foormeaJontheEchidna: i can change "widget style" in GTK+ style01:56
xeroto change even icons01:56
JontheEchidnafoormea: that will work, you can select raleigh and then change it back to qt curve01:57
iconmefistoxero: can you pastebin your fstab?01:57
JontheEchidnathat should enable "apply"01:57
foormeaJontheEchidna: and in the part that says GTK+ fonts, "use my kde fonts in gtk+ applications" is selected and i cannot select the other option01:57
xeroyeah sure01:57
foormeaJontheEchidna: ok01:57
apersonxero, if you didn't before, you have to re-mount your drives for the permissions to take affect01:57
xerogona restart first01:57
xeroill be back i just tryed soemthing alittle diferent01:57
xerobrb01:57
foormeaJontheEchidna: ok, changing to raleigh did the trick01:59
JontheEchidnaneat01:59
foormeahow come qtcurve comes with huge fonts?! that's weird, i never had a problem with this before (either with kubuntu or gentoo)01:59
JontheEchidnafoormea: what happens if you change back to qtcurve?02:00
foormeaJontheEchidna: back with huge fonts02:00
JontheEchidna:/02:00
foormeait's ok, i don't mind the less good looking firefox02:00
foormeais there no way to adjust qtcurve preferences?02:00
JontheEchidnain theory it should use the KDE preferences02:00
foormeamhhhh02:01
JontheEchidnafoormea: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=117962 <- if you want it looking a bit nicer02:01
foormeawell02:01
foormeathat's a minor problem02:01
foormeaJontheEchidna: i usually like very 'raw' stuff but i'll give it a try02:01
JontheEchidnaoh, could you try fiddling around with the KDE font settings? If you're using default fonts KDE might not explicitly set that in the config file02:01
JontheEchidnaooo: http://eddieringle.com/how-to-fix-gtk-theming-in-kubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/02:02
JontheEchidnaaha, fiddling around with KDE settings was the workaround to that issue:02:02
JontheEchidnaProblem #2: Qtcurve’s font is much too big02:02
JontheEchidnaSolution: Change the general font in systemsettings->appearance->fonts to something different, save, and then change it back. Repeat for `kdesudo systemsettings`.02:02
FloodBotK1JontheEchidna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:02
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foormeaJontheEchidna: thanks a lot!02:03
JontheEchidnafoormea: no prob, sorry for the inconvenience02:03
foormeanothing to be sorry abotu :)02:03
JontheEchidnawell, I made the GTK+ appearance module for System Settings ;-)02:04
JontheEchidnasorta, it used to be a part of gtk-qt-engine so I didn't write most of it...02:04
JontheEchidnabut I maintain it now02:04
JontheEchidnabut this seems to be more of a QtCurve problem02:04
foormeawell then THANKS A LOT02:04
foormeai've been a linux enthusiast for years but i've never coded anything -- i cannot code at all02:05
xerook yep confused lol i cannot wright to my storage partition its as a folder in my root but i can drag icons and folders their02:05
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iconmefistoxero: it's better if you make the mount point in /media02:07
xerohow i do that chief02:08
iconmefistoxero: sudo mkdir /media/<name-of-mountpoint-dir>   and then use that mountpoint in your fstab line02:09
foormeaJontheEchidna: ok, i tried changing font to anything then revert back but the problem persists. if i "force fonts dpi" to 96 it does the trick02:09
JontheEchidnanice02:09
foormeaJontheEchidna: to give you an idea of how big fonts are if i don't do that, they are even bigger than if i force fonts to 12002:10
foormeaanyway, thanks a lot for your help :)02:11
xerokk thx02:13
xeroomg02:19
xerothe storage device manager does jack :(02:19
xeroi still cant do anything with my storage partition02:19
xerogona headbut monitor soon lol i mounted it in media02:19
xerostill no luck02:19
xeroread only is clicked off not sure why it dosent work02:19
xeroawe now i cant get it back where it belongs:(02:23
xeroweak sauce lol02:23
xeroanyway if anyone can help me with this simple problem i seem to be havin trouble with would be great thx02:23
AutoscumHello, it's me again - boot guy!02:24
AutoscumI'm now trying to make a Windows XP bootable flash. Does anyone know how?02:24
xerook if someone could just tell me the command to make /storage acessable that would be fab then i can just leave lol02:25
xeroi dont care about auto mount anymore i just wana get this overwith cuz its makin me mad lol02:25
joejcare all the stupid bugs that should have caused the release to be delayed fixed?02:25
xerojoejc02:25
xerou see that little butten on the bottem of your screen02:25
joejcso no?02:26
poyntzdaskreech: thanks but it didn't work02:26
xerowate version u have02:26
xerojoejc what version?02:26
xerou using karmic?02:26
joejci was about to dl it02:27
daskreechxero: How are you doing?02:27
xerobad das02:27
xerolol02:27
daskreechpoyntz: What happens when you run xdg-open from the command line?02:27
xerodaskreech do u know the command to just make it read wrightable /storage im not gona make it auto anymore i just wana get this done lol02:28
poyntzdaskreech: you mean xdg-open .mailcap ?02:28
xerodaskreech: yea?\02:29
daskreechpoyntz: some file02:29
daskreechxero: I don't know is it mounted already ?02:29
xeroyeah02:29
xeroand i have the read only butten non clicked02:30
poyntzdaskreech: well with update-user-mailcap it tells me permission denied. even tho i chmod 755 the file02:30
xeroand i remounted it using storage device manaiger but no luck02:30
foormeaJontheEchidna: actually, my font issue is not really fixed... setting fonts to 96dpi is too small... setting to 120dpi is ok for kde apps, but fonts look slightly ugly in firefox... you were saying that changing fonts in raleigh mode for gtk+ appearance, applying, then setting back to the previous setting would do the trick02:30
daskreechpoyntz: Try it on some file you downloaded02:31
daskreechxero: do you have it in the /etc/fstab ?02:31
foormeaJontheEchidna: oh wait wait i think i'm an idiot :D02:31
xeronaw i decided not to go that way this time02:31
xerolol02:32
xeroi just want the command u type in konsol02:32
xeroi cantrember but i know its real easy command02:32
poyntzdaskreech: that was a file i downloaded02:32
xeroanyway i gota go get some bubble tea lol02:32
xeroill talk to u guys later02:32
foormeaJontheEchidna: yeah no changing font in raleigh then switching back to qtcurve doesn't do the trick on my side02:33
poyntzdaskreech: anyway with the .mailcap file it just opened up kate02:33
poyntzdaskreech: if i try with Warning: unknown mime-type for "update-user-mailcap" -- using "application/octet-stream"02:34
poyntzgah02:34
poyntzdaskreech: that's what i get if i try it on update-user-mailcap02:34
Autoscumchown: changing ownership of `/mnt/puppy': Operation not permitted02:40
AutoscumDoes anyone have any idea what this is about? :(02:40
Vouchehey everybody02:41
AutoscumHey, Vouche. :)02:41
Vouchei just install ubuntu on my lap, i don't have idea how to use it :(02:41
AutoscumWhy did you install it in the first place, then? :P02:42
Vouchecause Windows suck's02:42
foormeaAutoscum: did you sudo? what partition type is it?02:42
Vouchebut, i just need a mini bible02:42
Autoscumfoormea: I did sudo, it's a fat3202:42
Vouchegraphics are good, and easy, but i can not see the help in the console02:42
AutoscumAlso, how do I run an exe as root?02:43
foormeaAutoscum: mh. if i'm not mistaken for ntfs you need to change uid/gid in fstab or at mount time. i thought fat32 is easier to deal with02:43
foormeaAutoscum: but you could try to unmount, change ownership, then remount?02:43
AutoscumI'm trying to make a USB bootable flash drive for Windows XP, running a Windows native program through Wine.02:43
AutoscumIs this insanity? :P02:43
foormeai don't get it02:43
Autoscumfoormea: Do you know how to make a Windows XP bootable flash drive?02:44
Vouchejust install windows in the usb drive02:44
AutoscumWhat?02:46
AutoscumInstall Windows in a 512 USB drive?02:46
Autoscum512 MB02:46
AutoscumI'm trying to put the ISO there, so I can install it from the flash drive due to the lack of CD-ROM or any other removable media.02:46
AutoscumExcept for said 512 MB flash drive.02:47
AutoscumI already have a small Windows XP installation ISO02:47
AutoscumThe quest is to put it on the Flash drive so it would act as an installation.02:48
AutoscumNot as a standalone O/S02:48
AutoscumNo ideas huh?02:49
AutoscumDidn't think so. :/02:49
AutoscumIn other words, I want to burn an image to a USB drive.02:51
daskreechdd ?02:59
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ilumiAutoscum: there is a special app that puts isos on the usb drive03:20
ilumiAutoscum: UNetbootin03:21
Autoscumilumi: That's for Linux installations only. :(03:22
Autoscumilumi: I've already tried it, but if you got something on your mind, please share.03:23
ilumiAutoscum: dont know anything like that for windows03:39
AutoscumAlright, ilumi. :) Thanks for the help.03:39
daskreechAutoscum: I assume you tried asking in Puppy's IRC chan?03:44
Autoscumdaskreech: The Puppy thing was solved. :)03:44
AutoscumI'm trying to create an XP bootable device now03:44
AutoscumI'm currently creating it through VMWare Workstation xD03:44
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Autoscumdaskreech: And it appears to be working. :)03:46
AutoscumI'll probably write an article on how to install a Windows XP system if you don't have a CD ROM nor a second hard drive, haha03:47
daskreechDoes it involve downloading Kubuntu ? :)03:48
Autoscumdaskreech: Yep.03:52
Autoscumdaskreech: Downloading Wubi installer on a broken Windows installation, then using the Kubuntu to download VMWare, then creating a boot disk on an MP3 player03:53
Autoscumand reinstalling03:53
Autoscum:D03:53
AutoscumMakes a lot of sense, eh?03:56
daskreechha ha Yeah :)03:56
ilumiAutoscum: why are you installing windows?04:00
Autoscumilumi: That's my primary OS.04:00
AutoscumAs much as I hate it, Mass Effect 2 is out xD04:00
Autoscumand I've got a killer video card that is kinda overkill to use on Linux04:00
Autoscumlol04:00
Autoscumilumi: Of course, once I have Windows up and running, I'll come by from time to time to say hi. ^_^04:01
AutoscumHaha.04:01
ilumiyeah i was a big gamer back in the day,  but it's a waste of time, and doesnt teach you jack04:02
daskreechWait it's out now?04:02
daskreechilumi: Lies!04:02
daskreechI know to eat mushrooms now :)04:03
ilumiwhich mashrooms are you talking about?04:04
Autoscumdaskreech: Mass Effect 2 is out!04:07
Autoscumdaskreech: Release is from Razor 191104:07
Autoscumilumi: Thanks to the CoD series and Fallout 3, I was moved to learn about guns and stuff like that04:07
Autoscum:P04:07
AutoscumSorry, I'm a bit incoherent. It's 6 AM and I haven't slept all night04:07
daskreechGnight Autoscum04:09
AutoscumYou're leaving? :P04:09
daskreechYou are04:11
AutoscumNah.04:12
AutoscumBe right back.,04:12
AutoscumOkay. ^_^04:12
AutoscumMuch better.04:12
Autoscumdaskreech: So, why am I leaving? I still got work to do04:12
Autoscum:P04:13
victor__anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3 for kde? i haven't found anything04:23
ilumivictor__: http://www.federicopistono.org/Set_up_an_MP3_OGG_Alarm_Clock_Using_Linux04:28
daskreechwhy do you need it for KDE specifically?04:28
daskreechkalarm should work04:28
victor__kalarm doesn't supports mp3 and i cant install alarmclock on kde :S04:29
daskreech.ogg ?04:40
ilumi?04:40
daskreechvictor__: You ca't install alarmclock on kde?04:42
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Guest34643Need to install Nvidia drivers, so that I can increase screen resolution. But how do I get those drivers.05:07
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tolpicoThere is an nvidia application in software managment . But no way to install it05:11
tolpicoWould someone please help me install nvidia drivers on kubuntu? In hardware drivers dialog it doesnt show the drivers. How should I get it?05:27
Daugha|n!nvidia05:29
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:29
daskreechtolpico: try jockey-kde05:30
tolpicodaskreech: thanks this is exactly what I was looking for. thanks Daugha|n too for that useful page.05:33
tolpicodaskreech: opening jockey-kde as root gives this error "No protocol specified05:35
tolpico: cannot connect to X server :0.0"05:35
tolpiconvm got it from that poage, by opening hardware manager through menus05:40
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Daugha|nIs there a way to reformat a drive, and lock out bad sectors?06:02
james_lDaugha|n: depending on file system, yes. If you are on one of the extX ones, you can do it without even reformatting with the -c option to fsck.extX.06:31
pat|nGgood mornin everyone06:44
pat|nGanybody here?06:44
pat|nGneed help06:44
daskreechwith?06:45
pat|nGi got my laptop and i have win7 and i set the boot setup to cd as it boots up...now im in the process of installing kubuntu....it appears i'm in disk setup...how can i install it without a rewritting my win7 os? all i can see is /dev/sda1 ntfs until sda4.....i don't know which of that my win7 is runnin....so which one i will choose to install kubuntu? i got 3 partition each partition is 80gb how can i know that drive ain't used by win7?06:48
daskreechYou have a /dev/sda1 sda2 sda3 and sda4 ?06:50
pat|nGdaskreech: yes06:52
pat|nGsda1 0.0%(100MB) sda2 35.5%(78.0GB) sda3 33.5% (78.1GB) sda4 32.9% (76.6GB)06:52
pat|nGthat's wat it is stated right now06:52
daskreechwell all the partitions have something on them.06:53
daskreechLaptop?06:53
pat|nGyes06:54
pat|nGso which one will i chose?06:55
pat|nGis it dev/sda2?06:55
daskreechRight so the first partition is the utilties section06:55
daskreechpat|nG: What do you have on the three partitions?06:55
pat|nGcoz sda1 size is 104mb used is 35mb and in sda2 83782mb size and used is 11491mb06:56
pat|nGin drive c in win706:56
pat|nGand 1 is for my full kubuntu06:56
pat|nGand the other one is reserve for my next exploration to gentoo06:56
kyubutsuwin7 is going to be in the partition with the most used space.. so avoid that one06:56
pat|nGbut for now i just need kubuntu to be installed safe06:57
daskreechpat|nG: ok but there are things on them now?06:57
pat|nGnope06:57
pat|nGc is full for win7 and the 2 partition remainings are empty06:57
daskreechpat|nG: not according to that :)06:58
daskreechpat|nG: Ok open Dolphin06:58
kyubutsualso, the installer should give you the option to 'install side by side' so as to not overwrite other existing operating systems06:58
pat|nGkyubutsu: i did manual setup06:58
pat|nG:(06:58
pat|nGdo i need to hit back?06:59
kyubutsuyou can , yes06:59
daskreechpat|nG: open Dolphin06:59
pat|nGi don't know dolphin06:59
pat|nGwhat is that bro?06:59
daskreechpat|nG: press alt+F2 then type dolphin06:59
macopat|nG: the file manager in kde07:00
pat|nGdidn't show anything bro07:00
daskreechalt+F2 didn't show anything ?07:00
pat|nGwait it says here: HOW DO YOU WANT TO PARTITION DISK? CHOICES : ERASE AND USE THE ENTIRE DISK? SPECIFY PARTITIONS MANUALLY07:01
pat|nGdaskreech: no bro07:01
daskreechAh Right laptop07:01
daskreechopen the K Menu in the lower left and type dolphin07:01
pat|nGbro i don't have that menu07:02
daskreechpat|nG: Ah let me see you choose install Kubuntu from the menu when the CD first started up ?07:03
pat|nGyes07:05
Daugha|ndaskreech: Lemme know when ya got some time. I have a few new tricks I wanna try, and these should be easier than the lanboot one.=)07:05
pat|nGthat's it07:05
daskreechpat|nG: ah ok so you aren't on the same laptop now talking to us?07:05
AutoscumI'm still alive!07:06
AutoscumWaiting for the Windows XP to copy!07:06
Autoscum:(07:06
Daugha|nAutoscum: Dare I ask?07:06
pat|nGnope07:06
pat|nGi'm using my desktop07:06
Kageok... I installed Qt 4.6.2 with declaratives.... now how do I tell qmake to use 4.6.2, its still trying to use 4.5.207:07
daskreechpat|nG: Well if you want a definitive answer you can either go through with some command line instructions I can give you or reboot to the Try Kubuntu now option07:07
daskreechCommand line is faster but a little more frustrating Reboot is longer but should be easier on the nerves07:08
AutoscumDaugha|n: Sure, ask away. Haha07:08
Daugha|nWhy xp....????07:08
AutoscumDaugha|n: I'm trying to copy a Windows CD to a USB Flash drive in VMWare workstation, so it would be bootable.07:08
Daugha|nAh....That makes sense. =)07:08
AutoscumIt's been 40 minutes, it's copied 70 MB.07:09
AutoscumNow I know what "painfully slow" means. :D07:09
Daugha|nI need to set up an xp image so I can install via lanbot oneof these days.07:09
Daugha|nThat remonds me of dialup.....07:09
Daugha|nCannot say I miss those days.07:10
AutoscumIndeed.07:10
Autoscum:P07:10
pat|nGdaskreech: i think i saw already this dolphin u're talkin bro07:11
pat|nGi'm here in dolphin now07:11
pat|nGso wats next?07:11
AutoscumDaugha|n, well the saddest thing is, I stayed up all night researching how to make a bootable XP flash from Linux07:11
AutoscumThat returned no results :(07:11
Daugha|nAutoscum: I gots some questions about data recovery, you know much07:11
AutoscumSo I thought VMWare would help.07:11
AutoscumDaugha|n, I doubt I know as much as you think, but I'll try to help.07:12
AutoscumShoot. :)07:12
Daugha|nAutoscum: Took me three days and four people helping to get lanboot working, so, I understand,.07:12
daskreechpat|nG: Great ok you should have a left panel07:12
AutoscumHaha.07:12
AutoscumLanboot ^_^07:12
daskreechwith some things like Home and Root07:12
Daugha|nJust wondered how hard it is to recover data that was on the hd before ubuntu was installed.07:12
daskreechat the Bottom should be 4 hard drives which are your 4 partitions07:12
daskreechyou can click them to see what's in each07:12
AutoscumHold on :)07:12
AutoscumUnetbootin has a lot of recovery software ready-to-go07:13
pat|nGcan i pm u daskreech?07:13
Daugha|nAutoscum: I had an issue where lanboot was the only option....NOw that I got it working, well...It sure is a nice option.07:13
daskreechpat|nG: pl07:13
AutoscumDaugha|n, I hear you! :) But seeing how my other PC doesn't have a hard drive, I doubt that'll be any good for me.07:14
Daugha|nAutoscum: Ya, I had an HD, just no removable media options.07:14
AutoscumHaha.07:15
AutoscumI'm actually using a SANG MP3 player that I bought a few years ago.07:15
AutoscumIt's got 512 MB of memory.07:15
Autoscum487 of which are usable. :P07:15
Daugha|nUsing it as the flash drive?07:15
AutoscumYeah!07:15
Autoscum:P07:15
Daugha|nThats hilarious.... =) Good luck.07:16
AutoscumHaha.07:16
AutoscumYeah, it's quite funny.07:16
kyubutsuwhy dont you take your conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic07:16
AutoscumEspecially how my 250 GB drive just stopped working :(07:16
Autoscumkyubutsu, or maybe to /query?07:16
kyubutsuofftopic is better..07:17
muhandashHello?07:22
daskreechhi07:22
kyubutsu!ask07:23
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:23
Autoscumdaskreech, we're too late. :(07:23
AutoscumHe quit lol07:23
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noaXessgood morning.. how is life today? end of week?07:53
Daugha|nIt exists....08:03
Daugha|nOK, now to some work.....I have a wd external with bad sectors, what would be the best way to go about reformatting and cutting out the bad sectors?08:04
daskreechbadblocks08:06
Daugha|nLemme check.08:07
Daugha|nDisk Util just shows 14 bad sectors.08:08
zubin71hi! im using karmic rite now with KDE. for some reason i cant assign keyboard shortcuts for shifting between workspaces. please help.08:24
daskreechzubin71: Ctrl+F1 F2 F3 Doesn't work?08:30
Daugha|nIf I reformat as ext4 after running badblocks, will there be any problems with ubuntu recognizing the drive as an external?08:43
MarcoPauhello, compositing is almost always not enabled when I log into X, do you guys have a clue on this problem?08:50
varanusMarcoPau: do you have an ati videom card?08:55
daskreech!ph | pat|nG08:56
ubottupat|nG: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog08:56
MarcoPauvaranus: yes I do08:58
varanusMarcoPau: even though i can't help you very much cause i'm not an expert, i resolved this problem by installing the radeon driver wich is the open one, or you can try to get the latest catalyst driver from ati08:59
varanusbut it was an known issue with the ati driver09:00
MarcoPauvaranus: I'm using the catalyst driver09:01
varanusMarcoPau: the easiest way it to install the newest catalyst to see if it fixes it, the bit "harder" way is installing the radeon driver which works better imho. i installed the radeon and works just fine. i'm sorry that i can't help you more.09:04
MarcoPauok09:04
MarcoPauvaranus: thanks for the hint09:04
varanusnp09:04
MarcoPauvaranus: by radeon drivers you mean the ones coming with karmic right?09:06
varanusMarcoPau: yes, the ones in the repository09:07
varanusMarcoPau: before instaling that be sure to completely uninstall the catalyst, always if you go installing them09:07
varanusMarcoPau: there is one thing that could create you a little problem and not see the X right away. in the /ect/X11/ there is the xorg.conf file created by the catalyst09:09
varanusMarcoPau: before restarting with the new driver you have to delete that xorg.conf so the system starts using the radeon driver. i good thing is to backup it before deleting from there09:11
MarcoPauvaranus: actually some of us (me included) already had recent problems with the radeon drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306215 anyway I'll give it a try now09:11
varanusMarcoPau: i'm not an expert but i have installed the radeon 5 days ago with no problems, but i can't assure you nothing, i'm sorry. just to let you know i got an hd485009:12
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ubuntu_nuevoHOla09:23
ubuntu_nuevo¿HAyalguien?09:23
ubuntu_nuevohOLAAAAAAAAAA09:23
ubuntu_nuevo¿Estan?09:24
re1n7mm..09:25
ubuntu_nuevohola09:25
ubuntu_nuevoEstas?09:26
pat|nGanyone?09:26
pat|nGi type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used09:27
pat|nGdoes it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?09:27
ubuntu_nuevoI.m spain09:28
kyubutsu!es | ubuntu_nuevo09:28
ubottuubuntu_nuevo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:28
ubuntu_nuevoubootu09:28
ubuntu_nuevoya en entrado09:28
ubuntu_nuevoy no responde nadie.09:29
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tolpico!xorg09:36
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution09:36
tolpicoAfter installing Nvidia Drivers my desktop reolution came down to 640x480 from 800x600. The drivers are activated and I am sure  they are the correct recommended ones.09:39
tolpicoAlso tried Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0" but no luck09:39
tolpicoMy current xorg.conf, if it helps: http://pastebin.com/m54aa16be09:41
Autoscumtolpico: sudo nvidia-settings09:45
Autoscum:)09:45
AutoscumSwitch the resolution and tell it to save to X config file09:45
tolpicoIn the resolution list there are only two of them, 640x480 and  320x42009:46
contrastGreets, everyone...09:48
contrastI keep getting this error for applications which are run as root: "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." Any ideas? I googled around and didn't find anything helpful.09:48
tolpicoAutoscum: can I use a template of xorg and replace the resoution value my monitor supports by myself?09:49
AutoscumSure.09:50
AutoscumYou can manually edit xorg.conf09:51
AutoscumThough, that may cause difficulties09:51
Autoscumif the correct display adapter isn't selected in the file09:51
AutoscumSorry if my messages are fragmented, I haven't slept all night :D09:51
ubsafderhello09:52
AutoscumHey ubsafder.09:52
tolpicoAutoscum: oh all help is appreciated, ;)09:52
ubsafdermy linux hangs with booting can i skill all starting services from grub ( that's all i have  ?09:53
ubsafderskip not skill09:53
tolpicoactually thats the problem, to manually edit it. But I am sure my monito supports 1024x768/. So I need to just put them but dont know how09:53
tolpicosry to Autoscum actually thats the problem, to manually edit it. But I am sure my monito supports 1024x768/. So I need to just put them but dont know how09:54
ubsafdereven recovery mode won't boot09:54
zubin71daskreech : i cant shift workspaces even if i have assigned keyboard ahortcuts for it09:56
ubsafdercan i boot with a sort of prompt to confirm starting services ?10:02
ubsafderfor each service10:02
kyubutsuubsafder:  you can only do that if you could at least get into recovery mode10:04
ubsafderok i am still far from that i have a service that hang in anyboot10:05
kyubutsuif you need to access files in the drive you can boot up  from a live cd10:05
ubsafderok and then ?10:06
kyubutsuas far as actually fixing the system, i dont have an answer tho10:06
kyubutsusounds like you might want to back up your data and reinstall.. but you're welcome to stick around and maybe someone else has a better way to aid you10:07
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tolpicosorry, did a restart to check if i can sort out resolution problem but no luck, any messages for me above?10:12
ubsafderwhat is the default level ?10:16
ubsafderfor ubuntu 5?10:17
cousin_mariohello10:19
cousin_mariowhat's the cleanest way to enlarge all system chars?10:19
pat|nGanyone here?10:31
pat|nGhow can i have a 3D desktop?10:31
varanushi all, i'm going through a sound problem in kubuntu karmic. even though sound output works fine i can't capture sound from the mic. the only clue i have is by running skype from konsole and getting the following error: ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM null10:33
Autoscum!PulseAudio | varanus10:36
ubottuvaranus: PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions10:36
AutoscumIt's a PulseAudio error. :)10:36
varanusAutoscum: but pulseaudio is not intended to be used with kde or am i wrong?10:37
Autoscumvaranus: I'm with Karmic as well and I am using PulseAudio :)10:37
AutoscumGo to System Settings -> Multimedia and test out all devices10:37
varanusAutoscum: ok, i'll try installing it hope to get it right cause i gave it a try sometimes and i got no sound.10:38
varanusAutoscum: shall i ask you one more thing. does libpulse0 needs to be installed to use alsa or not? cause is the only paskage from pulse i have installed10:39
AutoscumThat's THE PulseAudio10:39
AutoscumUhh10:39
AutoscumDamn, sleep depravation takes its toll :P10:39
AutoscumSoo uhh... Yes. If you have alsa on the backend, install libpulse010:40
tolpicoAutoscum: have a nap, it feels 7th heaven, It happens with me too :)10:40
Autoscumtolpico: Not until I install that damn Windows XP and download Mass Effect 210:40
AutoscumxD10:40
AutoscumMy Internet will stop tomorrow around this time10:41
AutoscumLess than 24 hours10:41
AutoscumI haven't paid it lol10:41
AutoscumSo, sleeping is not an option until everything is finished. :)10:41
tolpicoI see :)10:41
varanusAutoscum: ty very much for the link, i'll give it a try :). lol,  i wish you to get everything done then :)10:42
AutoscumNo problem, varanus.10:43
AutoscumI've frustrated many users on here when I was new.10:43
AutoscumTime to give back to the community. xD10:43
zubin71daskreech : CRTL+ F1 etc. works but how do i change it?10:43
varanusAutoscum: i know what u mean :D, done it for a while but now i'm more familiar with forums too so i try to frustrate ppl less xD. but this audio thing it's a week i'm getting frustrated lol10:46
varanusbeb10:46
AutoscumAh crap!10:52
AutoscumI just crapped up my audio :(10:53
AutoscumI'll be back.10:54
AutoscumAAAAH10:54
AutoscumI almost canceled 6 hours of file transfer!10:55
AutoscumDamn I almost had a heart attack!10:55
AutoscumBah, there goes my cardio exercise for the day. xD10:56
whilelol10:58
whileAuthority, nice10:58
whileAutoscum, nice10:58
while:D10:58
Autoscumwhile: Yeah... very nice.10:59
AutoscumI'm steel feeling the adrenaline... remembering how I was saying NOO NO NO NO NO10:59
AutoscumBut then VMWare asked me to confirm it and I said cancel.11:00
AutoscumPhew11:00
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pat|nGhello?11:48
omerhello11:49
pat|nGomer can u help me out?11:49
pat|nGhow can i activate my 3D desktop?11:49
omerpackage manager and install the Compiz compiz 3d desktop settings option of the activity11:51
hateball!ccsm11:51
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz11:51
hateballbut Kwin has all that jazz these days doesnt it11:52
pat|nGi see it but no effects at all11:52
pat|nGi see the 3D visual effects and checked it11:52
pat|nGbut nothing happens11:52
pat|nGweird isnt it?11:52
omerAfter you select and click on the 3d desktopu settings determined by its own shortcut keys along the shortcuts will work after you apply11:55
omercould you?11:58
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pat|nGhow come i can't view videos in my youtube page?12:07
pat|nGno flash player12:07
pat|nGhow can i have one?12:07
pat|nGanyone?12:08
pat|nGhow come i can't view videos in my youtube page?12:11
pat|nGno flash player12:11
pat|nGhow can i have one?12:11
sandhyaHi, the preview pane in Dolphin is missing12:16
sandhyaHow do I get it back?12:16
sandhyaView -> Preview is checked12:16
soeepat|nG: try installing restricted-extras for kubuntu12:16
AutoscumOkay, PulseAudio is freaking out.12:17
AutoscumIt isn't operational, again.12:17
Autoscum!PulseAudio12:17
pat|nGhow?12:17
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions12:17
pat|nGsoee: how?12:17
soeeuse your kpackagekit tool12:17
sandhyaanybody able to help?12:18
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pat|nGi tried to download from adobe but it says unknown blah blah blah....checking.....installation window appear but nothing happnd actually12:19
soeepat|nG: run kpackageit and search for it than select to install kubuntu-restricted-extras package12:21
pat|nGcouldnt find kubuntu-restricted-extras12:22
pat|nG:(12:22
soeepat|nG: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/12:25
pat|nGsoee12:42
pat|nGi already install12:42
pat|nGbut it's the same12:42
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zorvaltHey everybody !12:46
zorvaltDoes somebody know how to set a USB headset as the main sound output of Kubuntu ?12:47
whilezorvalt, no ideea12:52
zorvaltwhile: ok, thanks. Anyone else ?12:52
Peace-zorvalt: try to join in #alsa12:54
zorvaltPeace-: ok12:54
zorvaltIt's Okay, I just installed pulseaudio and it worked13:01
zorvaltBye ;)13:01
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giuseppe_hello13:14
giuseppe_i have a problem with youtube video with firefox13:14
Autoscum!PulseAudio | giuseppe_13:14
ubottugiuseppe_: PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions13:14
AutoscumClick that article and then navigate to Problems with flash :)13:15
giuseppe_thank's13:15
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pat|nGhuhuhu13:17
pat|nGanyone?13:17
pat|nGim lost13:17
Daugha|nHunh???13:18
pat|nGi accidentally close my panel13:18
pat|nGlike in windows the start up?13:18
pat|nGi mean start?13:18
giuseppe_i don't find my problem13:18
pat|nGi can't find it anymore13:18
pat|nGhow can i get back that tray panel?13:18
giuseppe_when i connect to youtube, firefox not work13:18
giuseppe_which is problem?13:18
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: Try ubuntu-restricted-extras13:19
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: As in 'apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'13:19
Daugha|npat|nG: I forget how to fix your problem. =(13:20
giuseppe_so i write: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?13:20
Daugha|ngiuseppe_:  in cli, yes.13:21
Daugha|nErr....Konsole.13:21
giuseppe_ok13:22
giuseppe_ooo no13:26
giuseppe_there is problem13:26
Daugha|n???13:26
Daugha|nYes, noone here to help me with my problems.=)13:26
Daugha|ngiuseppe_:  WHat ya got?13:26
Koliapat|nG: the whole panel of just the K menu?13:27
giuseppe_when i go to youtube, my browser not work13:29
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: Need to be a little more specific than that. Does it close down, does it stop respoinding, does it just not play videos, exactly *what* does not work.13:30
ken_fallonAfternoon13:31
Daugha|nMonring.13:31
ken_fallonCan someone tell me which process manages the taskbar where the Kmenu, clock etc lives13:32
giuseppe_when i connect to youtube, video ready13:32
Tm_Tken_fallon: Plasma13:32
pat|nGhow can i get back that tray panel? like in windows we have this start button in kubuntu the K icon on the lower left...how can i get that back?13:33
Daugha|nHey, Tm_T13:33
ken_fallonIt keeps freezing and I need to restart it13:33
Tm_Tken_fallon: or more precise, plasma-desktop most likely13:33
ken_fallonTm_T: thanks13:33
Koliapat|nG: the K menu or the whole panel?13:33
ken_fallonKolia: the whole panel - also happens on Debian Sid13:34
giuseppe_but i don't listen audio13:34
pat|nGyes13:34
pat|nGthe whole panel13:34
giuseppe_if i change page or search other video, my browser don't work13:34
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: SO, you just have no sound for youtube13:34
pat|nGi accidentally closed13:34
Koliaken_fallon: pat|nG : right click > add panel then if you just want to add one13:34
giuseppe_yes but i can't change website13:34
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: Ok, firefox stops responding.13:35
giuseppe_if i connect to youtube, after i can't change website because firefox don't work13:35
ken_fallonKolia: thanks but this is a freeze issue. I.E the clock is frozen. I just needed to know which process to look at13:35
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: Dont go to youtube. :P13:35
Daugha|nken_fallon: Kolia is trying to help someone else.=)13:36
ken_fallonDaugha|n: thanks13:36
Daugha|ngiuseppe_: WHat is the load on your processor?13:37
Koliaken_fallon: plasma-desktop is the process13:38
Koliaken_fallon: this is the same for the whole plasma thing (wallpaper, panel,widgets..)13:38
ken_fallonI killed the panel with the Ctl+Alt+Esc and the plasma-desktop process was still running as kdeinit4: plasma-desktop [kdeinit]13:42
ken_fallonrunning kdeinit4 plasma-desktop13:42
ken_fallondid not spawn a new one13:42
Koliaken_fallon: kquitapp plasma-desktop13:43
Koliaken_fallon: and then,  plasma-desktop to restart it13:43
Koliayour screen will go black for a second, but the console will remain13:44
Daugha|nHow do I optimize ubuntu for streaming video from sites like zshare and stagevu?13:46
ken_fallonKolia: Excellent thanks. It works now. Now I'd like to be able to file a bug against this crash. How can I go about getting usefull information ?13:47
Koliaken_fallon: hum i tihnk it's too late. Generally when it crashes, you get a popup giving you the backtrace and an interface to report the bug13:48
kyubutsualso13:49
kyubutsu!bug13:49
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots13:49
Koliaken_fallon: you can try asking on #kde-bugs if this is possible to collect information after it's been restored13:49
ken_fallonThanks i'll go over there. However this happens a few times a day so it should be easy to reproduce13:50
ken_fallonThanks everyone - have a good weekend13:50
Koliaken_fallon: then it has probably been reported already, and even probably fixed in the development version (but you cans still report it) :)13:52
ken_fallonNo harm to know how to report it anyway :)13:53
pat|nGi check all box in window management...including the desktop cube animation desktop cube and all under window management but no effect? why?13:53
martijnhi, i want login under root by su under bash, but when i do that it says there is a verification fault13:57
martijnhow do i enter su level?13:58
kyubutsu!sudo | martijn14:07
ubottumartijn: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)14:07
pat|nGkyubutsu: i cannot do a 3D desktop i check all box from window management14:10
pat|nGnothing happend?14:10
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pat|nG:(14:11
pat|nGanyone?14:11
kyubutsupat|nG: you got an ati card?14:13
Koliapat|nG: people are answering youi, but you never listen/answer them.14:14
pat|nGi don't have ati i think i got dell 154514:15
pat|nGi don't know14:15
pat|nGnot that comp exprt tho14:15
pat|nGbut i think dell 1545 got nvdia14:15
kyubutsualright, check if the proprietary driver is activated in   kickoff>applications>hardware drivers14:17
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martijni tried it with & kdesudo vuurmuur but this gives me nothing14:18
kyubutsuwhy does that program needs root priviledges?14:18
martijni have not questioned me this to be honest14:19
martijn$ vuurmuur14:19
martijnError: you are not root! Exitting.14:19
martijnam i the only dude where su does not work?14:20
Pici!sudo | martijn14:20
ubottumartijn: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)14:20
kyubutsuif you trust the program do    sudo vuurmuur   in terminal14:20
martijnwhen i do a & sudo vuurmuur it gives me no output, weird14:21
kyubutsui already gave him that factoid, Pici14:21
Picikyubutsu: Ah, I missed it.14:21
kyubutsui just dont know what vuurmuur is or what it does14:22
pat|nGkyubutsu: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system? what does it mean?14:22
martijnand when i do $ sudo -i14:22
martijnroot@jupiter-laptop:~# vuurmuur14:22
Picikyubutsu: It looks to be a iptables/netfilter admin program14:22
Pici!info vuurmuur14:22
ubottuvuurmuur (source: vuurmuur): netfilter frontend (utilities). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7+debian-1 (karmic), package size 118 kB, installed size 716 kB14:22
martijnit gives me nothing again14:22
kyubutsupat|nG:  did you see any drivers listed in there at all?14:23
kyubutsumartijn:  maybe there is no graphical front end to it14:24
Picimartijn: They have a channel here #-19-26-27-28-33-34-36-38-40-45-46-53 • 275 nicks (@1 %0 +0 274) •14:24
Pici[#kubuntu] martijn: They have a channel here #14:24
Picier.. wrong paste (clearly)14:24
martijnokok thanks!14:25
pat|nGkyubutsu: nothing14:25
Picimartijn: Since we don't know much about the program, perhaps the folks in #vuurmuur can help14:25
pat|nGdoes it mean i don't have one? i only got a built-in gfxcard?14:25
martijni will go there, thanks for working with me14:25
kyubutsupat|nG: open a terminal and type   lspci   and press enter14:31
kyubutsulook for a line that reads    vga compatible controller14:32
kyubutsuit will tell you what video card you have14:33
kyubutsuthere is a more elegant way to bring it up but i dont recall it14:34
Daugha|nlspci | grep vga?14:36
kyubutsunope..14:36
kyubutsuclose tho14:36
Daugha|nSOunds falimiar. =)14:36
Daugha|nFamiliar, even..14:36
Daugha|ncat + lapto == even worse typing than usual.14:37
pat|nGkyubutsu: i got a vga compatible controller: intel corp mobile 4 series chipset integrated gfx controller14:46
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kyubutsuto my knowledge integrated graphics dont do 3d acceleration too well if at all ..14:48
pat|nGi think so too14:49
pat|nG:(14:49
pat|nGkyubutsu: how about i can't view videos from youtube?14:49
kyubutsuyou need !flash14:50
kyubutsu!flash | pat|nG14:50
ubottupat|nG: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash14:50
pat|nGhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3109617.0 <--- i did follow all of the instructions here14:50
pat|nGit runs but when i try to open the konqueror web browser flash player needed14:51
pat|nG:(14:51
pat|nGall updates are done14:51
pat|nGworks fine14:51
kyubutsuinstall firefox .. works better14:51
Daugha|napt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:51
Daugha|n:P14:51
pat|nGhow can i install firefox?14:52
geniiDaugha|n: With kubuntu-restricted-extras  konq might actually understand Flash ...14:52
pat|nGi click on mozilla firefox installer it has +install x exit14:52
Daugha|ngenii: No clue, I tried konq once, and promptly deleted it. =)14:54
Daugha|nNow, there's an idea....14:56
Daugha|nHow do I get a different activity on each screen?14:56
Daugha|nHey, ilumi14:57
kyubutsubtw, Daugha|n , the command is   lspci | grep VGA   just gotta capitalize vga tho14:58
kyubutsuor wont work14:58
pat|nGi got it kyubutsu but no sound14:58
* kyubutsu chuckles14:58
pat|nGhehe14:58
ilumihey14:58
Daugha|nkyubutsu: Figgers. =)14:58
pat|nGanyone? i got the video working but no sounds14:59
pat|nGhehe14:59
ilumiis that a new distro i never heard about?14:59
Daugha|npat|nG: So, fix the sound.:P15:00
pat|nGhahaha15:00
pat|nGhow?15:00
Daugha|npat|nG: Start by making sure all the sound levels are up?15:01
Daugha|nThere a plugin I need to run multiple monitors?15:03
pat|nGanyone?15:09
pat|nGi tried to test on sound system in amarok when i click test it works15:09
pat|nGbut i can't hear a sound in youtube videos15:09
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Mannequinhi, I've added the Kubuntu Beta PPA, so to beable to install KDE SC 4.4rc1, but after updating sources, I don't see any KDE update15:15
Mannequin(I've done this a few days ago, and I've waited until today)15:15
Mannequinwhat may I be missing?15:15
MannequinI followed the Software Repository Guides15:16
Mannequinand added the repository to my list of sources15:16
Mannequinmaybe I should add this somewhere?15:16
Mannequinppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta15:16
Mannequin(but where?)15:16
Mannequinmmmm, it seems I've added the wrong repository15:18
Mannequinbackports != beta, right?15:18
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pat|nGi can't open my kmix?15:25
pat|nGy?15:25
Daugha|npat|nG: I dunno, I resolve any sound issues in gnome.15:26
pat|nGi just installed pulseaduio15:26
pat|nGbut still no sounds15:26
pat|nG:(15:26
ilumipat|nG: purge pulseaudio, install alsa and alsa-oss, reboot15:32
avihayanyone experiencing slow compositing with kwin?15:33
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valerio_#ubuntu-it-bar15:37
pat|nGilumi15:38
pat|nGhow can i install alsa?15:38
BluesKajpat|nG, in the terminal, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils15:39
pat|nGgot it15:40
pat|nGalsa-base is already the newest version15:40
pat|nGalsa-utils is already the newest version15:40
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BluesKajpat|nG,open kmix and make sure all ctrls are up to 75%  and  is pulseaudio installed in system settings /multimedia15:43
pat|nGBluesKaj: the problem is no matter how i click kmix it will not open15:45
BluesKajpat|nG, can you see any souncrds listed in system settings/multimedia15:46
geniiWhen kmix won't open it's usually because the system doesn't find anything attached that it considers a sound device to use. eg: no driver15:46
slow-motionhi15:47
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pat|nGyes15:49
geniipat|nG: What is result of: lspci -nn | grep Audio15:50
BluesKajpat|nG, highlight the listed card and run the test box15:50
pat|nGi got a HDA Intel (stac92xx analog15:50
genii!intelhda15:50
pat|nGand pulseaudio15:50
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto15:50
pat|nGit works both15:50
pat|nGbut i still got no sounds in youtube15:51
geniiIs the embedded volume control inside the flash player turned up/unmuted?15:51
pat|nGwhere can i find it?15:52
geniiUsually lower right of the video which is playing15:52
pat|nGit is on and full volume15:53
BluesKajpat|nG, sometimes pulseaudio interferes and over rides alsa settings ...try removing it ..you can always reinstall15:54
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pat|nGi have to remove?16:01
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Guest40414First time on- I am investigating the idea of making the switch from gnome to kde in ubuntu, but I have failed miserably at setting up wlan016:07
Guest40414How do I get to a subject chat?16:07
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gino_ciao16:29
Peace-hi16:30
ilumihiiii16:30
Dubh`TiegrThat was n9to fun.16:58
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DaughainOk......ANyone have any idea why instalkling kwlan killed all net access??16:59
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DaughainOr even how to configure the crappy thing?16:59
pat|nGDaughain17:00
pat|nGi just got it17:00
pat|nGdeng17:00
pat|nGi just type alsamixer on terminal17:00
pat|nGthen puff a mixer and adjusted it like the PCM17:01
pat|nGwew17:01
pat|nGnow it's working17:01
Daughainpat|nG my other system w9ont acknowledge either an eth0 OR a wlan0.17:01
DaughainSorry, but I have other concerns right now., =)17:01
pat|nGit's awkie17:02
pat|nGthanx anyways17:02
pat|nGhehe17:02
DaughainDammit...\17:03
DaughainOk....17:04
DaughainHey,  BluesKaj17:06
DaughainGot a min?17:06
BluesKajwhat's up , Daughain ?17:07
DaughainWhiloe installing kde stuff to try and get my sedcond monitor working, I installed kwlan. That was great, until it discionnected me, and refused to acknowledge either eth0 or wlan017:09
DaughainI remnoived kwlan, but still cant get network tools to acjnowledge anything else except a loopback interface.  Even though the system is plugged into the lan.17:09
DaughainThat system is back in gn9ome right now, sionce I can a5t least find things there.)\17:11
WaltzingAlongsigh17:11
DaughainWaltzingAlong: I agree.=)17:11
BluesKajDaughain, I suggest you use /etc/network/interfaces/ to connect your eth0 , eth0=dhcp in the cli , unless you use a static IP17:12
BluesKajDaughain, then run , sudo dhclient eth017:13
DaughainI can use the same commands to reconnect my wlan0 as well?17:14
Daugha|nHOney, I'm home.17:15
pat|nGhow can i set my panel back to normal?17:15
Daugha|nThanks as always, BluesKaj17:16
pat|nGi accidentally closed it17:16
BluesKajusually yes but your encryption settings need to be listed aswell wpa2 apa-psk and passphrases etc17:16
BluesKajwpa-psk17:16
pat|nGhow can i set my panel back to normal?17:17
BluesKajnormaL?17:18
pat|nGyup17:18
BluesKajdunno what that is17:18
pat|nGi got the K icon on the lower left17:18
pat|nGbut now it's gone17:18
BluesKajright click to add the kicker widget17:19
pat|nGin windows we have this start button and the time display17:19
WaltzingAlongin sharpe the bars can be customized as one sees fit, as well17:20
BluesKajpat|nG, we know but just , right click on the desktop add widgets , dpouble click on the blue "K" when you find it17:20
pat|nGi got it but it was place on the centre17:21
pat|nGhehehe17:21
BluesKajwell then click on the cashwe icon in the right corner them move the K tp where you want17:23
BluesKajcashew icon17:23
artemishey guild, do you know how to use ethernet and wireless at the sametime?17:24
WaltzingAlongartemis: my computer does that often  ... but for different networks17:25
artemisanyone ?17:27
artemis:-< thx anyway17:27
BluesKajhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1108905.html artemis,17:27
BluesKajno patience , must young and entitled :)17:28
WaltzingAlongand part of a system that encourages and reinforces such behaviors17:29
Dubh`Tiegrlopes over to sniff at bulldog98, learning the scent for later fetching if needed.17:30
Dau`goneBluesKaj; What was the second cli comnnand again? Apparently switching to kde caused a problem.17:32
Dau`goneI got it,17:33
Daugha|nI hopeI dont have to do that on every reboot.17:34
TheAncientGoatGrrrr17:35
TheAncientGoatDarn plasma17:35
Daugha|nAgreed.17:35
TheAncientGoatWhen I add a widget to a panel, nothing happens17:36
TheAncientGoathowever17:36
TheAncientGoatwhen I /remove/ the widget that I just added17:36
TheAncientGoatWhoops, here pops up that widget17:36
Daugha|nHey, I added a new network manager, and lost the network. =)17:36
TheAncientGoatHow the heck does that work? Did someone mess up a bool switch?17:37
Daugha|nThats strange.17:37
TheAncientGoatBut the best is17:37
TheAncientGoatI cant /remove/ the widgets either17:37
TheAncientGoatSo.. GRRR17:37
Daugha|nUmmmm........kde4.4?17:37
TheAncientGoatnope17:37
TheAncientGoat4.317:37
ilumilinux is a mystery17:38
Daugha|nI'm runing 4.3.2 with no widget issues.17:38
TheAncientGoatand alt f2 isn't working either :(17:38
TheAncientGoatilumi: KDE is not quite linux17:38
ilumiwell, you can say that about everything17:39
TheAncientGoatAlthough Gnome is barely any better... And all the other WM's also give problems17:39
ilumiexcept the kernel17:39
TheAncientGoatYeah.. But I guess if you only use the terminal, it cuts down quite a few snags ;)17:39
Daugha|nlol17:39
Daugha|nHow does kwlan work? I installed it, but got no docs with the install....??/17:41
xjjkDaugha|n: klwan is really old17:41
xjjkI'd not use it17:41
pat|nGxjjk if u don't mind can u help me?17:42
Daugha|nxjjk: Now they tellme!! =)17:42
pat|nGhehe17:42
xjjkpat|nG: let me scroll up...17:42
xjjkDaugha|n: does networkmanager not work?17:42
Daugha|nWHat would you advise as a wlan gui, xjjk ?17:42
xjjkDaugha|n: networkmanager, or wicd17:42
Daugha|nWhere is it?17:42
xjjkDaugha|n: networkmanager is included default with ubuntu and is what is used out of the box17:43
pat|nGi got problem wid panel i accidentally delete it i add widget and the K icon put on centre i need it like at it is in default in the lower left portion of the screen inline wid the time17:43
BluesKajDaugha|n, for eth0 it's , sudo dhclient eth0 , to switch to wlan0 you have to do, wlan0=dhcp , then sudo dhclient wlan017:43
xjjkpat|nG: er, which version of KDE17:43
Daugha|nxjjk: I'm a newb, and lose things in kde. I dont know where to look to find networkmanager.17:43
xjjkpat|nG: I think that's really easy to use...17:43
xjjkDaugha|n: it should be there by default already...17:43
Daugha|nUmm....Where?17:43
BluesKajbbl17:43
xjjkDaugha|n: it's not a program you can, it's a plsama applet17:43
pat|nGi'm noob sori17:43
pat|nGhehe17:43
xjjkpat|nG: if you click on the plasma icon thing/cashew/whatever they cal it now17:44
Daugha|nxjjk:  AH, that explains a bit.=)17:44
xjjkpat|nG: you should see a "more settings" button17:44
xjjkand in there you should be able to choose horizontal alignment17:44
xjjker, not horizontal... but alignment along a screen edge17:45
xjjkDaugha|n: you should have an icon near the system tray area17:45
Daugha|nNope, tat disappeared when I installed kwlan.17:45
xjjkDaugha|n: remove kwlan...17:45
Daugha|nThats why I said I couldnt find it.17:45
xjjkit's *really* old17:45
Daugha|nI already did.17:45
xjjkstill gone?17:45
Daugha|nYup.17:45
xjjkcheck if you have the package for it installed... I think it's called plasma-widget-networkmanager17:46
Daugha|nThat was why I rwmoved kwlan the first time.17:46
xjjkor something to that effect17:46
Daugha|nxjjk: Thanks. It was uninstalled, instaling now.17:47
xjjkDaugha|n: I personally think NetworkManager is a complete POS, but they have good intentions and I'm sure it'll work someday17:47
xjjkDaugha|n: most people who get pissed with NetworkManager but still want a GUI go with wicd17:48
Daugha|nWell, I'm a linux newb coming from xp.....17:48
Daugha|nWHIle cli doesnt scare me, I dont know enough to really use it well, so I still need my gui.17:48
xjjkDaugha|n: no one does wireless networking with the CLI... but there are various daemons that handle things for you17:49
xjjkthat you control by editing text files17:50
xjjkclassic UNIX paradigm17:50
Daugha|nUNIX was 30 years ago for me. :P17:50
xjjksome ideas were good ideas17:50
xjjklike keeping settings in simple text files17:50
* Daugha|n chuckles.17:50
xjjkand exposing various operations as files in general17:51
xjjkrather than magic mumbo jumbo17:51
Daugha|nI agree, but, after the lanboot exerience, I also know how slammed this channel would be if linux was pure cli/text.17:51
xjjkDaugha|n: I'm honestly not sure about that17:51
xjjkwith CLI/text there's some transparency into how things work17:52
xjjkso you have a chance to fix things by yourself17:52
xjjkyou get tangible errors17:52
xjjkthat you can google17:52
Daugha|nIt tok me three days to get lanboot set up on this system. MOst of that wa swaiting for someone who knew more about what I was looking at than I did, so they could poiunt out my mistake.=)17:52
Daugha|nI used a specific Ip, where I needed the subnet mask.17:53
Captain_HaddockWhat is Kubuntu's partition manager?17:53
Captain_Haddockor KDE's rather17:53
xjjkCaptain_Haddock: it's in systemsettings17:53
Daugha|nIf you still have gnome, you can use gparted.17:54
xjjkCaptain_Haddock: the binary is called partitionmanager17:54
Captain_Haddockxjjk: what's it called? don't see it.17:54
Captain_Haddocklooking17:54
xjjkCaptain_Haddock: it's called partition manager17:54
xjjkyou can open up a terminal or use krunner and just run "partitionmanager" directly17:55
Captain_Haddockinstalling now17:55
Captain_Haddockthanks17:55
Daugha|nAll this started because I'm trying to get a second monitor working. =)17:55
phoenix_can anyone help me17:56
phoenix_problem after update17:56
ilumii dont think anyone in their right mind would want to use cli alone17:57
* Daugha|n chuckles...17:57
Daugha|nI remember the days....17:57
Daugha|nIts kinda fun, when you are used to it.=)17:57
phoenix_can anyone help me with kubuntu17:57
iluminah, it's the thing of the past17:58
Captain_Haddockphoenix_: nobody can until you tell us what the problem is.17:58
Daugha|nilumi: SO, why ya still have one??=)17:58
Captain_Haddockxjjk: works a treat. Thanks again.17:58
xjjkCaptain_Haddock: cool17:58
phoenix_i updated my kubuntu, after that i was not able to start the x server17:58
ilumiDaugha|n: only because gui doesnt have the needed tools to fix stuff17:58
Daugha|nMust still be viable.17:59
Captain_Haddockphoenix_: updated from what to what?17:59
phoenix_the cumulative updates17:59
Daugha|nHow do I kickstart networkmanager from cli, since we on the subject.17:59
phoenix_i think i updated the kernal18:00
ilumiDaugha|n: see windows has all the gui tools you needm, thats why dos console is almost forgotten18:00
Daugha|nkernal update requires a reboot, phoenix_18:00
Daugha|nilumi: windows has all the gui tools MS wants you to have.. =)18:00
Daugha|nThere is a *big* difference. =)18:00
phoenix_ya, i done that18:00
Nataouzehello18:01
ilumiDaugha|n: right, but there is nothing else avarage user needs18:01
Captain_Haddockphoenix_: what are you using now?18:01
phoenix_after that kubuntu lower version kernel18:01
ilumiDaugha|n: you can configure pretty much everything from gui18:01
phoenix_i fixed the problem in this version18:01
ilumiDaugha|n: and it works18:01
phoenix_but when i loggin in the latest version i get the error and not able to start the xserver18:02
D-coyhi all o/18:02
Daugha|nilumi: Ok, so I'm noty an average user. Might explain why I'm running linux now. :P18:02
phoenix_can i send you the error log18:02
Daugha|nphoenix_: pastebin it, better idea.18:02
NataouzeI upgraded to KDE 4.4, and now some shortcuts are borken, such as ALT+F2 for the launcher or F12 for yakuake18:02
phoenix_ok18:02
Daugha|nilumi: How do I start networkmanager from cli?18:03
ilumiDaugha|n: yeah, but linux maybe has like 40% of what you need in gui, thats why you have to work with console alot18:03
Daugha|nilumi: windows has about the same, it just doesnt give you a terminal interface to fix the rest of the issues. Thats why there are so many third-party apps to *fix* it. =)18:04
phoenix_X.Org X Server 1.6.418:04
phoenix_Release Date: 2009-9-2718:04
phoenix_X Protocol Version 11, Revision 018:04
phoenix_Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-23-server i686 Ubuntu18:04
phoenix_Current Operating System: Linux matrix 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i68618:04
FloodBotK1phoenix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:04
phoenix_Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic root=UUID=95225b18-74c0-4d4b-b422-e0911ea62e6f ro quiet splash18:04
Daugha|nHe missed my comment about pastebin, I see.18:05
Captain_Haddockhe just saw the paste bit.18:05
Captain_HaddockDaugha|n: I think networkmanager in KDE 4 is a plasma applet18:05
Captain_Haddockplasmoid perhaps18:06
ilumiDaugha|n: well, what are you reffering to, thre is not much you need to fix in windows if anything, (not talking about security, spying, etc)18:06
* Captain_Haddock uses wicd instead18:06
Daugha|nilumi: Ok, *not* counting e=security, there is regular maintenance on your registry files for one...18:06
Captain_Haddockoh win v. linux18:06
* Captain_Haddock backs away18:06
Daugha|nCaptain_Haddock: I'm a newb. :P18:07
Captain_Haddock:)18:07
Daugha|nAqnd, for amusement value, *I'm* supporting cli.=)18:07
Captain_HaddockDaugha|n: so, what's the problem?18:07
ilumiDaugha|n: average users dont need that18:07
Daugha|nOh, Captain_Haddock I know its a plsma thing, I just dont know how to make it work.18:07
ilumiDaugha|n: thats only for geeks18:08
Daugha|nilumi: As I said, I'm not an average user.18:08
Captain_HaddockDaugha|n: what doesn't work?18:08
ilumiDaugha|n: and u can manually edit it if you need to18:08
Daugha|nANd I'm a nerd, dammit, not a geek.18:08
Captain_Haddockyou're a NEET, just admit it :P18:08
Daugha|nlol18:08
Daugha|nCaptain_Haddock: I had to reinstall networkmaager after a kwlan failure. =)18:09
Captain_Haddocka lowlan failure?18:09
Captain_Haddockoh18:09
Daugha|nI think I just found that kernel update phoenix_  was talking about.18:09
Captain_Haddockkwlan?18:09
Daugha|nkwlan.18:09
* jussi01 reminds people this is a support channel and general discussion should be held in #kubuntu-offtopic18:10
Daugha|nCrusing synaptics trying to find whatever package I need to allow multiple monitors.18:10
* Captain_Haddock isn't familiar with kwlan18:10
Daugha|nDidnt realize kwlan was an antique so I included it in the install list.18:10
Captain_Haddockbut IMO, if the plasmoid is not working for you, use wicd18:11
Captain_Haddocksudo apt-get install wicd18:11
Captain_Haddock(and remove kwlan)18:11
Daugha|nplasmoid wasnt wrking because it was uninstalled. :P18:11
Daugha|nDId tat a while ago. =)18:11
jussi01Daugha|n: which gfx card?18:11
Daugha|njussi01: This is alaptop.18:11
jussi01Daugha|n: again, whcih grafics card?18:12
Daugha|nRadeon X1200 series, if I re,e,ber right.18:12
Daugha|nremember, eve.18:12
daskreechhi pat|nG18:12
jussi01right, have you installed the ati driver for it?18:12
jussi01Daugha|n: under system -> hardware drivers18:13
Daugha|nKarmic, no need for another driver for it.18:13
jussi01ahh, ok18:13
daskreechilumi: I use CLI Alone18:13
* jussi01 never remembers which ones you need the blob for18:13
daskreechit works for everything but managing images :(18:13
jussi01Daugha|n: alt+f2 -> krandr18:13
Daugha|njussi01: Under system settings/display  It saysmy system is not set up for multiple monitors, even though I have a 22 plugged in and mirroring when it says that18:14
jussi01Daugha|n: although not sure how well that works.18:14
phoenix_the kernel version in with i get the error is 2.6.31-1718:14
phoenix_ya18:14
phoenix_i found a tip in a webpage and i uninstalled the nvidia drivers18:14
phoenix_after that when i logged into the latest kernel version , my system hangs with screen blank and contineous beep18:14
phoenix_then i logged into the kernel version and reinstalled the nvidia drivers and now it works fine18:14
phoenix_but when i loggin to the latest version i am not able to start the x server18:14
jussi01!xrandr18:14
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1218:14
Daugha|njussi01: So far, it doesnt. =) I need to be able to display seperate workspaces on each monitor.18:14
daskreechNataouze: got help?18:15
Daugha|nWhats 'X'?18:15
jussi01!x18:15
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution18:15
jussi01:D18:15
jussi01sorry for the multiple factoids, got lazy18:15
jussi01anyway, off to the shop now18:15
Nataouzedaskreech: I went into the global shortcuts panel into the KDE config, and now it works again, but I didn't restard KDE yet18:15
phoenix_i found somewhere in a webpage that whenever we update the kernel, we have to reinstall the nvidia driver. is that true18:15
daskreechNataouze: Ok18:16
Daugha|nfactoids are fine.18:16
hobanhello all. I'm an arch user (kdemod) and have now got an itch to try kubuntu. Is there a way to get a minimal kde install like there is with kdemod or must I install all of kubuntu desktop in order to expect things to work under kubuntu?18:16
Daugha|nIll get to the hdmi output later... :P18:17
Daugha|nbrb, gonna run this reboot.18:17
phoenix_help18:17
daskreechhoban: what would you consider minimal KDE ?18:18
hobandaskreech: just the  bare minimum functional desktop. no add-on apps. I'd choose which apps to install myself. So that would required plasma/dolphin/phonon/etc. but *not* require things like games/amarok/etc.18:19
genii!info kde-minimal18:21
ubottukde-minimal (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment, minimal applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:50ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 7 kB, installed size 36 kB18:21
hobangenii, awesome! thanks18:21
geniihoban: np18:21
hobanis there a particular ppa I should use to get the latest kde on karmic?18:21
phoenix_dont do that18:22
DaughainOk, that did some strange things...18:22
hobanppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta I guess18:22
hobanphoenix_, who were you talking to?18:23
daskreechhoban: apt-get install plasma-desktop18:23
phoenix_hoban18:23
hobandaskreech, keep in mind that I'm currently running ubuntu18:23
daskreechor kde-minimal :)18:23
hobanso my repos point to the ubuntu repos, not the kubuntu ones18:23
daskreechhoban: They are the same repos18:24
hobanok.18:24
hobanis there any particular reason not so use the kubuntu-ppa/beta?18:24
daskreechWe don't discriminate much :)18:25
phoenix_if you have important files. dont use it18:25
daskreechhoban: You want the last shipped version of KDE that Kubuntu shipped with18:26
hobanhaha, it'll eat my hamster eh?18:26
daskreechhoban: the main repos have what shipped with 9.10 plus security updates18:26
phoenix_i am here because the same reason18:26
daskreechhoban: backports has the lastest stable version18:26
daskreechhoban: beta ppa has the lastest version (the RC1 currently)18:27
hobanso, if I safely want the latest, I should use backports18:27
daskreechthe latest KDe 4.3 yes18:27
hobanok, thanks guys for the tips18:28
phoenix_help18:28
phoenix_not able to start the xserver in the kernel 2.6.31-17 in kubuntu18:29
daskreechphoenix_: What error?18:30
phoenix_http://paste.ubuntu.com/360796/18:30
phoenix_darkreech are you there18:33
Captain_Haddockphoenix_: probably has something to do with Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X18:35
phoenix_its working fine in the lower kernel version 2.6.31-1618:36
Captain_Haddockthen use the lower kernel and wait for another update.18:37
phoenix_this is my xorg.conf18:39
phoenix_http://paste.ubuntu.com/360814/18:39
phoenix_i have rebuild the nvidia x configuartor18:40
phoenix_i have rebuild the xorg.cong using nvidia x configuartor18:40
bushhsurabaya18:41
daskreechphoenix_: yes18:41
daskreechphoenix_: you have closed drivers?18:42
phoenix_can you help18:42
phoenix_what should i do18:42
daskreechRun sudo apt-get upgrade18:43
phoenix_done that18:43
daskreechShould rebuild the Driver18:43
phoenix_phoenix@matrix:/etc/X11$ sudo apt-get upgrade18:46
phoenix_Reading package lists... Done18:46
phoenix_Building dependency tree18:46
phoenix_Reading state information... Done18:46
phoenix_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.18:46
FloodBotK1phoenix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:46
Daugha|nDidnt we go through this a little while ago?18:46
phoenix_sorry18:46
Daugha|nMore for you, mate. You end up gagged if the bot feels you are spamming.18:47
phoenix_oh18:48
phoenix_now i know18:48
Daugha|nHmmmm.....If I use gpart after running badblocks, the reformat will ignore all the banned blocks, right?18:48
Daugha|nphoenix_: 4 lines to warning, and I beleive 6 till gagged.18:49
phoenix_oh18:49
taga101Morning all18:49
phoenix_i got the rules18:49
Daugha|nHeya, taga10118:49
phoenix_morning18:49
Daugha|nGUess we shall find out.18:50
phoenix_everytime i update my kubuntu, i am not able to start the x server18:51
phoenix_usually i reinstall, but now i want to know why its happening, i think its because of the nvidia drivers18:51
Daugha|nI'mma newb too. =)18:52
phoenix_oh, linux are you using18:52
Daugha|nGet this external formatted, and then back to trying to get my monitors working.18:52
gorgonizerphoenix_: do you install the nividia drivers from their website, or via the repositories?18:52
phoenix_via repositories18:53
Daugha|nubuntu with kde.18:53
phoenix_that kubuntu right?18:53
Daugha|nNo. I still have full gnome.18:53
xrandr_laptopblech. gnome18:53
xrandr_laptopgnome is not as visually impressive as KDE18:54
Daugha|nNo, but when kde taes dump, I can fix it. :P18:54
phoenix_do you get humbnail preview for media files in kde18:54
xrandr_laptopkde doesn't crash! not by itself anyway :)18:55
Daugha|nxrandr_laptop: No, only when you install parts of it. :P18:55
taga101its the operator not the machine LoL18:55
Daugha|nIts the apps in the repos, on some occasions.:P18:56
xrandr_laptopKDE is actually quite stable18:56
xrandr_laptopim just figuring some stuff out in it. I haven't used KDE in many moons18:56
xrandr_laptopsuch as, assigning shortcut keys, using compiz instead of kwin, etc.18:56
Daugha|nIts been about 30 years since I dealt with unix, and thats the last time I saw a functional cli.18:57
phoenix_i think i found the solution can you verify this and tell me18:57
phoenix_http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/13/kernel-update-affects-some-nvidia-users-fix-included/18:57
Daugha|nI tried compiz, I tink I prefer kwin18:57
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daskreechphoenix_: sudo depmod -ae should rebuild the drivers as well18:58
phoenix_oh, thats good18:58
phoenix_so i should rebuild the drivers first right?18:59
daskreechFirst?18:59
daskreechbefore what?18:59
dhaumannsince the amarok upgrade to 2.2.2 on kubuntu I have no sound anymore.18:59
daskreechtha's the only problem you have right now18:59
dhaumannis that a known issue? maybe someone knows a workaound? all other apps play sound18:59
Daugha|nOK, how do I reformat a disk and get it to ignore bad sectors?18:59
phoenix_before using this command  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx19:00
daskreechDaugha|n: tried badblocks ?19:00
Daugha|ndaskreech: Ran it for many hours....Now what?19:00
daskreechphoenix_: both should kick off the rebuild19:00
daskreechDaugha|n: should have marked the bad sectors as bad so a reformat will ignore them19:00
phoenix_oh ok, i will try that now, thanks a lot everyone19:01
Daugha|ndaskreech: Used gpart to reformat as ext4, still showing as 232GiB and failing per disk utility.19:01
Daugha|nOr did I reformat the wrong way?19:02
* daskreech shrugs :)19:03
Daugha|nlol19:03
Daugha|nThat helps... =)19:03
Daugha|nOK, its time for bed, and Ill deal with this when the brian works again.19:04
xrandr_laptophere's a question regarding theme packages. When you install a theme package, can you get rid of the original tar.gz file, or does KDE use the original file instead of making a copy of it?19:07
phoenix_the problem is solved19:07
phoenix_now i am able to start the x server in the latest kernel19:07
daskreechphoenix_: It's just your drivers. They need to be rebuilt for every new kernel. The upgrade should do it automatically19:09
daskreechI guess for some reason on your computer it fails19:10
daskreechxrandr_laptop: It copies it19:10
phoenix_ya that what they have said. its happens only in nvidia driver version 9X19:10
xrandr_laptopthanks19:10
daskreechphoenix_: So just run that command after you upgrade a kernel and then you should be fine19:11
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phoenix_ya learned that now19:11
phoenix_what is the alternate for yahoo messenger that you are using19:12
phoenix_i tried piden and gyache19:12
Daugha|nI llike pidgin.19:12
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daskreechPidgin is simple but doesn't have the extras like Webcam and picture sharing19:13
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simion314pidgin is the best, kopete misses some features and gyache hangs on my pc19:13
daskreechGyache does but is ugly as sin and twice as loud19:13
daskreechI'm seriously thinking about forking it and doing a Qt version19:14
Daugha|nlol19:14
simion314thats the problem, every IM uses theyr own libs, and reinvent the wheeel19:14
phoenix_what you have said is right, i am trying to use gyachi to use that voice chat feature19:14
phoenix_but the font is very bad19:15
simion314daskreech: maybe try to contribute to kopete19:16
daskreechsimion314: I want to do both19:16
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daskreechhave a library that kopete can use but the interface and concept of Kopete doesn't allow things like Picture sharing19:16
simion31422daskreech: i tried but is so hard to debug c++/Qt apps, no nice graphics19:16
daskreechAnd I would say webcam and Picture sharing are the biggest uses of Yahoo19:17
daskreechI have at least three people who keep windows around just to use Picture sharing on Yahoo19:17
daskreechsimion31422: Hmm ?19:17
simion31422i ment no nice GUI for debugging19:18
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phoenix_i like kopete a lot, expecting someone to improve it19:18
daskreechsimion314yache: have you tried qt designer ?19:18
daskreechphoenix_: You can help :)19:18
simion314yachephoenix_: no many people working on yahoo protocol in kopete, yahoo sucks ,unfortunetly all the people in my country uses it19:18
phoenix_i can a visual basic programmer not c19:18
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phoenix_but trying by best to program in linux, one time installed the qt library and the KDevelop. didnt succeed19:20
xrandr_laptophow do you change the compiz settings?19:20
simion314daskreech: qt designer does only the interfaces, qtcreator is a nice IDE for Qt development19:20
simion314phoenix_: install the Qt SDK and Xorg headers and you are ready to go19:21
phoenix_what is the best ide19:22
markusI like kopete a lot. The only IM I know that can iclude skype. The only thing I miss is working file transfers on some protocols. Hope that will be implemented. Waiting for that since years.19:22
simion314qtcreator is good19:23
markusphoenix: this is like asking "whats the best beer"? 10 people 10 different opinions19:23
daskreechsimion314: Sorry yes qtcreator19:23
phoenix_ok19:24
daskreechxrandr_laptop: install the app for compiz settings I forget the name now19:24
daskreechphoenix_: The one you can work with19:24
daskreechmarkus: Which protocols?19:25
simion314ccsm compiz config settings manager19:25
daskreechthat's it19:25
phoenix_i am trying to download the qt sdk. what does this mean "Qt: Framework Only"19:26
simion314phoenix_: get the SDK  that has the qtcreator inside19:26
daskreechphoenix_: It's just the base Qt things you need to get started19:27
phoenix_is this right" Qt SDK for Open Source C++ development on Linux/X11 32-bit"19:27
phoenix_the one thing that kopete is lagging in case of yahoo is the room list feature19:28
daskreechphoenix_: You can jump into #kopete and talk there :)19:28
phoenix_ya19:29
ibouhi19:29
iboui'm looking for a good video converter for kde19:29
ibouany idea ?19:29
simion314ibou: no ideea for GUI app,ffmpeg is the app that knows to convert video formats19:31
daskreechffmpeg ?19:31
simion314it must be some Qt front ends but i do not know19:31
ibouok19:32
ibouthx19:32
ibou!video19:32
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:32
simion314daskreech: yes, ffmpeg19:32
ibou!converter19:32
Windopainhow can i enable compositioning in kde?19:34
daskreechWindopain: alt+F3 -> Configure Window behaviour19:37
Windopaindaskreech: thanks19:43
daskreechWindopain: Sure19:46
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BlessJahcould someone pastebin /usr/share/xsessions/ from kubuntu9.04?19:56
BlessJah(file is named kde.desktop kde4.desktop or similar)19:56
BlessJahi need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop from 9.04, could someone pastebin it somewhere?19:58
[Relic]Does the current gwenview, have a text directory list (like the old version did) for images or is it stuck with thumbnails?  If it is stuck with all thumbnails is there an alternative that properly does text directory lists like gwenview used too?20:01
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Windopainfailed to activate desktop effects using the given config.  check x.  you may consider changing advanced, especially compositioning... only options i have in advanced are shading20:06
josh__plasma work space just crashed and the dedbug porgram does not have the right info20:13
hobanhello all. What do you all use to auto-launch (and unlock?) ssh/gpg/kerberos keys when you log in to kde? it "just works" with gnome for me20:14
WaltzingAlongjosh__: ok20:17
josh__it keeps crashing20:17
daskreechWaltzingAlong: Broke?20:23
daskreechjosh__: plasma keeps crashing?20:23
daskreechhoban: kwallet I would guess20:24
hobandaskreech, I'm referring to something that automatically starts {ssh,gpg}-agent20:25
rafytafyhi, i have a question..i would like to try the 2.6.33 kernel on my karmic 64bit due to daily lockups, i want to add this to my repo...  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  how should I add it20:25
hobanin gnome, both are started automatically and if your password for either matches your gdm login password, your keys are also unlocked and loaded at login20:26
josh__yeah and other stuff too and i dont know how to find the debug  filles to install20:26
bbeckI'm running KDE 4.4 RC, and the printer settings aren't working, I was wondering if anyone was having the same problem?20:34
daskreechhoban: kwallet can do the same if you want it explicit you can run ssh-agent in autostart20:43
daskreech!autostart20:43
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. In KDE 3.X the package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete KDE 3.X guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html20:43
daskreechbbeck: More specific?20:43
hobandaskreech, thanks, I'll look into that20:44
shikoВсем привет !!!20:49
Tm_T!ru | shiko20:50
ubottushiko: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:50
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Screamo_Smurfanybody free to help me?20:55
geniiScreamo_Smurf: Just ask your question of the channel generally and see if someone takes up an answer20:56
Screamo_Smurf:/20:56
NSsmileshi guys20:56
Screamo_Smurfim trying to get exaile to work, but it keeps telling me it cant decode because the decoder isnt installed20:56
NSsmilesis there help with getting opera on kubuntu?20:57
Screamo_SmurfNSsmiles i just did that 2 hours ago20:57
NSsmilesi looked it up no luci20:57
NSsmilesluck20:57
Screamo_Smurfwhat are you having problems with?20:57
NSsmilesi thought it was installed but i can't find it anywhere20:58
Screamo_Smurfwich version did you install?20:58
NSsmilesso i need to try again20:58
NSsmiles10 i think20:59
Screamo_Smurffor wich version of ubuntu20:59
Screamo_Smurf*kubuntu20:59
NSsmiles9.1020:59
Screamo_Smurfnvm go back on that20:59
Screamo_Smurfopen konsole20:59
NSsmilesok20:59
Screamo_Smurfhold on a sec21:00
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NSsmilesok21:00
inteliwaspdoes anyone know where the "nvidia-settings" saves it's settings at?21:00
Screamo_Smurfsimply type opera in konsole21:00
Screamo_Smurfit will open if its installed21:00
NSsmilescommand not found21:01
Screamo_Smurfthen its not installed21:01
Screamo_Smurfhold on a sec ill give you a link21:01
NSsmilesyeah i need to try again21:01
NSsmilesok21:01
NSsmilesthanks21:01
Screamo_Smurfhttp://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=32614&location=121&nothanks=yes&sub=marine21:02
Screamo_Smurftry that21:02
NSsmilesgreat thanks21:02
Screamo_Smurfcan anyone help me with exaile?21:04
daskreechinteliwasp: likely in some .folder in your ~21:04
daskreechScreamo_Smurf: What is it doing?21:04
Screamo_Smurfwont play anything21:05
Screamo_Smurfbasicly says theres no decoder21:05
daskreechas in won't play at all or play with no sound?21:05
daskreechAh ok21:05
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Screamo_Smurfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8707809#post870780921:05
Screamo_Smurf^^ thats exaclty what it does21:05
daskreechScreamo_Smurf: you have installed the codecs already?21:05
Screamo_Smurfrestricted extras?21:05
Screamo_Smurfif so yes21:06
Screamo_Smurfamarok will play them21:06
Screamo_Smurfbut not exaile or audacous21:06
Screamo_Smurf:/21:09
daskreechScreamo_Smurf: You need ubuntu-restricted-extras21:10
daskreechor in short21:10
daskreech!mp321:10
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:10
Screamo_Smurfyou mean kubuntu-restricted-extras?21:10
Screamo_Smurfdaskreech ive already install kubuntu-restricted-extras21:11
daskreechScreamo_Smurf: Ubuntu-restricted extras21:12
Screamo_Smurfok21:12
daskreechor just the gstreamer-bad package21:12
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Screamo_Smurfoh wow21:27
Screamo_Smurfkubuntus virtual kboard is alot better then ubuntus21:28
txeshi! anybody know what was changed in updates list night.. something connected with Xserver... because today after restart I get black screen when KDM should show up (9.10 with KDE 4.4 RC1, fglrx driver from ATI site)21:28
Peace-txes: the driver...21:29
Peace-txes: bad driver= bad performance21:29
[Relic]Does the current gwenview, have a text directory list (like the old version did) for images or is it stuck with thumbnails?  If it is stuck with all thumbnails is there an alternative that properly does text directory lists like gwenview used too?21:30
txesPeace-: but the driver was not changed... because I installed it from the bin file from ati site... something other packed messed it up... I tried to reinstall fglrx driver but still same black screen...21:31
daskreech[Relic]: What do you mean?21:31
Peace-[Relic]: maybe on  /tmp21:32
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Peace-this sick k3b doens't want get cddb infomations ...21:32
Peace--.-''21:32
Peace-txes: dunno about ati ... but when you upgrade you should be carefull if you have ati nvdia...21:33
daskreech[Relic]: What text details?21:34
xrandr_laptopwhen is the next release of kubuntu scheduled for?21:38
daskreechapril21:39
Dekansxrandr_laptop: april21:40
Dekansit's always april and october21:40
xrandr_laptopcool21:40
daskreechsame day21:40
Dekansxrandr_laptop: Kubuntu 10.04 => April 201021:40
DekansKubuntu 9.10 has been released on October 200921:41
Dekansit's in the release number ;)21:41
DekansIs Firefox 3.6 (stable not nightly) available in a Ubuntu repo ?21:41
Screamo_Smurf:/21:43
daskreechYes21:45
daskreechScreamo_Smurf: issues?21:45
Screamo_Smurfi just had to regiter is all21:46
Screamo_Smurfwith a vkb21:46
daskreechhm ok21:46
daskreech[Relic]: still there?22:00
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jschallwhy does networkmanager in (k)ubuntu ALWAYS revert to "auto eth0" (DHCP)? i want to use a static ip, and i want it to stick, and this is BS. why should end users have to edit /etc/network/interfaces?22:07
daskreechjschall: Shouldn't have to which networkmanager version are you using?22:10
jschall0.8~a~git.20091013t193206.679d548-0ubuntu122:11
jschalldefault with karmic22:11
Fleckany ideas why i'm getting 100% CPU usage while moving data from one HDD to another?22:11
FleckSATA hdds22:12
Fleck1TB and 1.5TB, ext422:12
daskreechYOu don't have DMA turned on?22:13
jschalldaskreech: i added a network connection in networkmanager, set it up as static and checked "connect automatically"22:13
Fleckdaskreech DMA is ON22:13
daskreechand apply and it flicked back to DHCP?22:14
jschallyou have really really fast hdds and a really really slow cpu?22:14
jschallno it works22:14
Fleckjschall well AMD 5200+ is really slow? :)22:14
jschalldaskreech: but it doesn't stick if i reboot the system22:14
daskreechah I see22:14
jschallFleck: ... yeah, but not as slow as it could be22:14
jschallFleck: hmm. i don't have 2 hdds in my system so i can't try it and see what it does on mine22:15
jschalli hate networkmanager22:17
jschallhaaaaaate22:17
jschallthat's hate with SIX 'a's22:17
Fleckjschall btw try wicd :)22:18
Fleckreally nice network manager ;)22:18
Screamo_Smurfit does suck22:18
Screamo_Smurfim tethering so i use wvdial22:18
[Relic]boingy boingy boingy22:22
daskreechhmm?22:23
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Windopainanyone know how i can determine if 3d graphics drivers are installed?  ubuntu 9.10 kde nvidia 7950gt...22:46
daskreechWindopain: Turning on Effects in Kwin is a quick way22:52
Windopaindaskreech: i guess my next querstion is how to install the unauthorized drivers in 9.10 then, since that's what i'm troubleshooting (effects not turning on)22:53
ner0xHow can I make sure my computer gets the same IP address from my router everytime WITHOUT using a MAC filter.22:55
Windopainturn off dhcp?22:55
ner0xWindopain: How do you do that on kubuntu?22:58
ner0xI don't know much about networking but I can get myself around a linux computer just fine.22:58
Windopainner0x: i don't know how to do much more than shutdown and restart.22:59
daskreechWindopain: run jockey-kde22:59
daskreechner0x: either set the DHCP server to have a crazy death time for the lease or set your DHCP range and then give your computer a static IP address23:00
LaeborgHey!23:01
daskreechYes?23:01
LaeborgMy Kubuntu 9.10, 64 bits, has crashed. When I startup, kde don't start23:02
ner0xdaskreech: I believe the IP I'm requesting is out of range.23:02
Laeborgbut I can login into the terminal, but no gui..23:02
xrandr_laptopLaeborg: any info in /var/log/messages  or /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:06
Laeborg'could not detext X server version', 'DRI initialization failed' and 'atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized'23:10
daskreechGPS has not been initialized?23:13
daskreechwhat did you do before the crash?23:14
t0muhello!23:14
Laeborgsystem update23:15
t0muplease, How install mysql-workbench in kubuntu?23:15
t0muI install dependecies with apt-get, but.. print this error:23:16
t0muconfig.status: executing libtool commands23:16
t0muconfigure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-dynamic23:16
t0muin ./configure =(23:17
t0muanybody?23:20
daskreecht0mu: try apt-get dist-upgrade23:31
daskreechThought that sounds like a package error23:31

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