[00:00] <huhlig> how can I make in kubuntu just that the default is us
[00:00] <rahmu> crimsun http://pastebin.com/m436945f
[00:00] <huhlig> it says it in the kde control panel
[00:00] <crimsun> rahmu: from that pastebin, nothing is actually trying to play sound
[00:01] <rahmu> but i have chrome playing a youtube video
[00:01] <crimsun> rahmu: did you actually use the command I gave you?
[00:02] <rahmu> sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* this is what I used
[00:02] <rahmu> when I use Kaffeine and when I log in/out the sound actually works
[00:03] <crimsun> rahmu: have you created any asoundrc ?
[00:03] <crimsun> rahmu: can you reproduce the symptom using firefox-3.5?
[00:03] <rahmu> I don't think so (don't know what's an asoundrc)
[00:04] <crimsun> rahmu: but, from that output, it's pretty clear to me you aren't getting any sound because the app isn't even trying to use the sound device
[00:05] <rahmu>  I ran Kaffeine, it appeared in the output of the command. When I ran Firefox+youtube, it didn't
[00:05] <rahmu> why is Kaffeine the only one using the sound device? (that IS working)
[00:06] <crimsun> rahmu: that depends how Phonon and Kaffeine are configured. How /are/ they configured?
[00:06] <rahmu> default
[00:06] <rahmu> btw thx for your help/patience
[00:06] <crimsun> rahmu: either take a screenshot, or describe, please.
[00:06] <crimsun> rahmu: I have no idea what "default" means /for you/
[00:08] <rahmu> Ok last "fresh" install was Jaunty. I was using Gnome. then upgraded to Karmic. No problem there. Then installed kubuntu-dekstop package, problem appeared magically. If I log in in GNOME, no sound at all
[00:10] <chris062689> Does anyone remember that article on LIFEHACKER that there was website where you would draw a crude picture, and it would piece together the picture using images found on google?  It was a really neat webapp but I can't find it anymore.
[00:10] <rahmu> Don't know what to add. I am using 'legit' repos for downloads and update. Never had sound problems before. No special config was involved. Problems appeared as soon as I tried KDE (kubuntu-desktop)
[00:10] <crimsun> rahmu: err, you were using GNOME?  Is pulseaudio running?  pgrep pulse
[00:11] <rahmu> yep
[00:11] <crimsun> yep to which?
[00:11] <rahmu> pulse running
[00:11] <rahmu> got a PID
[00:11] <BluesKaj> chris062689, why are you asking here ..this chat isn't a support channel mfor webapps
[00:12] <crimsun> rahmu: something is very, very wrong, then.  It should have appeared in your fuser output.
[00:12] <crimsun> rahmu: echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[00:13] <rahmu> output: no
[00:13] <rahmu> and "The program pulseaudio closed unexpectedly" (GUI alert)
[00:14] <crimsun> rahmu: huh?  It should be autospawn = no
[00:14] <rahmu> exactly. My mistake. autospawn = no
[00:15] <crimsun> rahmu: so now you need to decide if you want to keep using PulseAudio
[00:15] <crimsun> rahmu: if you do, you need to configure KDE System Settings > Multimedia, and set PulseAudio to the highest/topmost priority
[00:16] <rahmu> what are the alternatives?
[00:16] <crimsun> rahmu: either you use it, or you don't.
[00:16] <crimsun> it's pretty straightforward.
[00:17] <rahmu> it was in the lowest priority. what are the benefits/disadvantages of putting it on top?
[00:17] <rahmu> (if you don't mind me asking)
[00:18] <crimsun> /don't/ put it at the top if you don't use PulseAudio
[00:18] <rahmu> say i want to use it. I put it at the top. What next?
[00:19] <crimsun> then you rm ~/.pulse/client.conf, logout, and login
[00:19] <rahmu> ok brb
[00:24] <rahmu> crimsun: I logged out/in, now sound has completely disappeared. Even Kaffeine doesn't have sound. I run the fuser command again, Pulsaudio appeared in the output, but Kaffeine doesn't anymore ...
[00:25] <rahmu> (am also playing youtube vids on both chrome and firefox. they don't appear in the output of fuser)
[00:29] <rahmu> crimsun: are you still here?
[00:31] <Fanfare[afk]> rahmu: another way is to completely remove pulesaudio, but i dont know bout gnome then...
[00:31] <crimsun> rahmu: check your volumes.
[00:31] <crimsun> rahmu: please pastebin precisely the command you're using
[00:31] <crimsun> bah
[00:37] <rahmu> Fanfare[afk] I don't mind removing pulseaudio. I don't use gnome anymore (for the time being)
[00:37] <rahmu> crimsun: checked my volumes. no problem there
[00:39] <crimsun> 19:31 < crimsun> rahmu: please pastebin precisely the command you're using
[00:39] <rahmu> the fuser one?
[00:39] <crimsun> rahmu: I need to see the command /and/ its output.  Yes.
[00:40] <rahmu> http://pastebin.com/m70c3555c
[00:41] <crimsun> rahmu: is that with an application playing a movie/music file?
[00:41] <rahmu> yes
[00:42] <crimsun> rahmu: ok, back to basics, since something is really screwed on your system.
[00:42] <crimsun> rahmu: first, can you hear output from: speaker-test -c2 -l1
[00:43] <rahmu> no
[00:43] <crimsun> rahmu: pastebin output from the following commands: pactl stat && amixer -Dhw:0
[00:44] <rahmu> http://pastebin.com/m4dd797e3
[00:45] <crimsun> rahmu: and you only have one sound card, correct?
[00:46] <rahmu> yes
[00:46] <crimsun> rahmu: do you hear anything from: speaker-test -c2 -l1 -Dplughw:0
[00:47] <DarkwingDuck> hmm, dragon player keeps crashing when I try to play a DVD. Do I need to install a DVD codec?
[00:47] <rahmu> crimsun: I don't hear anything and I get error message: Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[00:47] <crimsun> rahmu: likely due to PA being active.  Try: pasuspender -- speaker-test -c2 -l1 -Dplughw:0
[00:48] <rahmu> heard the noise
[00:49] <crimsun> great, so something in PA is fubar.  Please disable autospawn and use pulseaudio -vvvv > ~/pulseaudio.log 2>&1
[00:50] <rahmu> how to disable autospawn? kill the process?
[00:55] <rahmu> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m401b363e             the content of pulseaudio.log
[01:03] <crimsun> rahmu: cat ~/.pulse/client.conf
[01:03] <crimsun> rahmu: if the line autospawn = no  is not in it, use the command I gave you above
[01:03] <crimsun> rahmu: then, killall pulseaudio  and use the pulseaudio -vvvv command I gave you above
[01:04] <rahmu> no such file (client.conf)
[01:04] <crimsun> so create it using the echo command I gave you previously
[01:04] <crimsun> should be in your shell history
[01:05] <rahmu> I used this one (just making sure)  echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[01:06] <rahmu> the pulseaudio -vvvv is taking quite some time now
[01:07] <crimsun> did you try playing something?
[01:08] <rahmu> command is still executing but sound has come back to firefox
[01:09] <rahmu> ok apparently sound is back everywhere. But command is still executing
[01:09] <crimsun> that's expected.
[01:09] <crimsun> it's normally daemonized when you login, but you're running it in the foreground
[01:10] <crimsun> so, PA works fine, and your apps work fine
[01:10] <rahmu> yes
[01:10] <rahmu> how to configure it for next login?
[01:10] <crimsun> looks like an initialization race, then.
[01:11] <rahmu> "initialization race"?
[01:11] <crimsun> PA and some other app are fighting
[01:11] <rahmu> ok
[01:12] <daskreech> DarkwingDuck: I would hope so
[01:12] <crimsun> I'll upload a new version of PA to the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA for karmic in a bit
[01:12] <crimsun> rahmu: if it happens in the future, killall pulseaudio and restart it
[01:13] <rahmu> using pulseaudio -vvvv ?
[01:13] <crimsun> rahmu: yes, and please attach the log to a bug report
[01:14] <rahmu> never did that before, can you tell me how to do it properly pls (give the developers something useful)?
[01:14] <crimsun> rahmu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log is the process that we would like you to use.
[01:14] <crimsun> rahmu: to file a bug, it's as simple as "ubuntu-bug pulseaudio"
[01:16] <rahmu> crimsun: ok i will. Thank you so much for helping out. I owe you one big time. If there's anything I could do, do not hesitate
[01:16] <Autoscum> !vmware
[01:16] <Autoscum> !QEmu
[01:20] <poyntz> is it possible to "Open Containing Folder" in firefox with dolphin ? if so, how?
[01:22] <crimsun> rahmu: no prob
[01:25] <Autoscum> !VirtualBox
[01:33] <daskreech> ponytz: Yes
[01:33] <daskreech> poyntz: Yes
[01:36] <xero> hello can someone help me please i installed kubuntu and when i did i partitioned a fat 32 drive for my storage but i cannot read or wright to it could someone please explain how i go about fixing that problem?
[01:37] <xero> i used to know how but i forgot :)(
[01:37] <xero> :(
[01:38] <poyntz> daskreech: how ?
[01:38] <xero> been using kubuntu on and off for a fiew years now
[01:38] <xero> anyone help please?
[01:38] <a51ts> i'm trying to remove "Dragon Player", and it's asking to remove "kubuntu-desktop" as a dependency... what should I do?
[01:38] <xero> are you using kpkg get?
[01:39] <a51ts> i'm using kpackagemanager
[01:39] <a51ts> *kpackagekit
[01:39] <xero> you dont have to remove a programs dependencys
[01:39] <xero> it just asks if you want to
[01:39] <Fanfare[afk]> a51ts: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package...
[01:39] <aperson> a51ts, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[01:39] <a51ts> so it's safe to remove?
[01:39] <xero> aperson got it
[01:39] <aperson> no, Fanfare[afk] did :)
[01:39] <a51ts> ok, thanks all 3 of you :)
[01:40] <xero> lol
[01:40] <Fanfare[afk]> aperson: no?
[01:40] <xero> can someone tell me how to make my storage partition in fat 32 acessable i cant rember :(
[01:40] <xero> whats the command..
[01:40] <xero> want read wright download like i do with my / partition
[01:41] <xero> hmm ok
[01:41] <xero> guess ill just have to mount it :(
[01:42] <poyntz> daskreech: are you there?
[01:43] <daskreech> poyntz: Yes
[01:45] <daskreech> xero: mount it with the proper right?
[01:45] <xero> yeah
[01:45] <xero> im doin that now
[01:45] <xero> i used to know a way to make it acessable without mounting tho
[01:45] <daskreech> How do you even get to it without mounting it?
[01:46] <xero> mounting becomes a pain im automounting gona edit my fstab
[01:46] <xero> i hate this
[01:46] <xero> i cant rember
[01:46] <xero> some command that lets you acess storage and read wright wtihout mounting
[01:46] <xero> been like a year since i used unix
[01:46] <xero> got on a hardcore game kick forgot how much i missed it lol
[01:47] <Fanfare[afk]> xero: adding to /etc/fstab?
[01:47] <xero> yeah :(
[01:47] <xero> i dont like editing fstab accadently crashed my comp lasttime lol
[01:47] <xero> all because of one little mistake
[01:48] <xero> anyway ill make it happen thanks tho
[01:50] <daskreech> poyntz: http://luisfpg.blogspot.com/2009/04/making-firefox-open-files-honoring-kdes.html
[01:51] <foormea> hi
[01:52] <daskreech> !hi
[01:52] <foormea> i just installed a kubuntu on my brand new eeepc 1201n. firefox and thunderbird have HUGE FONT menus, how could i fix that? (menus are ok-sized for other apps, at least kde ones)
[01:52] <xero> ich ok im not as good as i rember lol got a simpler way to make my storage partition read wrightable?
[01:52] <aperson> if you want a gui to do it, pysdm can edit your fstab for you, xero
[01:52] <xero> yeah i downloaded that lol
[01:53] <xero> was lazy but aparentley i can allredy read wright
[01:53] <xero> frustrated :(
[01:54] <JontheEchidna> foormea: In System Settings, go Appearance -> GTK+ Appearance
[01:55] <foormea> JontheEchidna: ah excellent! thanks, i'll try and let you know
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> then make any change and hit applet
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> *apply
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> you can even change the setting you had to change back to what it was, the thing is just to get it to save the settings
[01:56] <iconmefisto> xero: if you have write access, what's the problem?
[01:56] <foormea> JontheEchidna: mh, i cannot change anything...
[01:56] <xero> lol i dont tho
[01:56] <xero> it just says i do
[01:56] <xero> all my downoads are stalled
[01:56] <xero> and it says i dont have permission
[01:56] <foormea> JontheEchidna: i can change "widget style" in GTK+ style
[01:56] <xero> to change even icons
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> foormea: that will work, you can select raleigh and then change it back to qt curve
[01:57] <iconmefisto> xero: can you pastebin your fstab?
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> that should enable "apply"
[01:57] <foormea> JontheEchidna: and in the part that says GTK+ fonts, "use my kde fonts in gtk+ applications" is selected and i cannot select the other option
[01:57] <xero> yeah sure
[01:57] <foormea> JontheEchidna: ok
[01:57] <aperson> xero, if you didn't before, you have to re-mount your drives for the permissions to take affect
[01:57] <xero> gona restart first
[01:57] <xero> ill be back i just tryed soemthing alittle diferent
[01:57] <xero> brb
[01:59] <foormea> JontheEchidna: ok, changing to raleigh did the trick
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> neat
[01:59] <foormea> how come qtcurve comes with huge fonts?! that's weird, i never had a problem with this before (either with kubuntu or gentoo)
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> foormea: what happens if you change back to qtcurve?
[02:00] <foormea> JontheEchidna: back with huge fonts
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> :/
[02:00] <foormea> it's ok, i don't mind the less good looking firefox
[02:00] <foormea> is there no way to adjust qtcurve preferences?
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> in theory it should use the KDE preferences
[02:01] <foormea> mhhhh
[02:01] <JontheEchidna> foormea: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=117962 <- if you want it looking a bit nicer
[02:01] <foormea> well
[02:01] <foormea> that's a minor problem
[02:01] <foormea> JontheEchidna: i usually like very 'raw' stuff but i'll give it a try
[02:01] <JontheEchidna> oh, could you try fiddling around with the KDE font settings? If you're using default fonts KDE might not explicitly set that in the config file
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> ooo: http://eddieringle.com/how-to-fix-gtk-theming-in-kubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> aha, fiddling around with KDE settings was the workaround to that issue:
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> Problem #2: Qtcurve’s font is much too big
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> Solution: Change the general font in systemsettings->appearance->fonts to something different, save, and then change it back. Repeat for `kdesudo systemsettings`.
[02:02] <FloodBotK1> JontheEchidna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02]  * JontheEchidna slaps FloodBotK1
[02:03] <foormea> JontheEchidna: thanks a lot!
[02:03] <JontheEchidna> foormea: no prob, sorry for the inconvenience
[02:03] <foormea> nothing to be sorry abotu :)
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> well, I made the GTK+ appearance module for System Settings ;-)
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> sorta, it used to be a part of gtk-qt-engine so I didn't write most of it...
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> but I maintain it now
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> but this seems to be more of a QtCurve problem
[02:04] <foormea> well then THANKS A LOT
[02:05] <foormea> i've been a linux enthusiast for years but i've never coded anything -- i cannot code at all
[02:05] <xero> ok yep confused lol i cannot wright to my storage partition its as a folder in my root but i can drag icons and folders their
[02:07] <iconmefisto> xero: it's better if you make the mount point in /media
[02:08] <xero> how i do that chief
[02:09] <iconmefisto> xero: sudo mkdir /media/<name-of-mountpoint-dir>   and then use that mountpoint in your fstab line
[02:09] <foormea> JontheEchidna: ok, i tried changing font to anything then revert back but the problem persists. if i "force fonts dpi" to 96 it does the trick
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> nice
[02:10] <foormea> JontheEchidna: to give you an idea of how big fonts are if i don't do that, they are even bigger than if i force fonts to 120
[02:11] <foormea> anyway, thanks a lot for your help :)
[02:13] <xero> kk thx
[02:19] <xero> omg
[02:19] <xero> the storage device manager does jack :(
[02:19] <xero> i still cant do anything with my storage partition
[02:19] <xero> gona headbut monitor soon lol i mounted it in media
[02:19] <xero> still no luck
[02:19] <xero> read only is clicked off not sure why it dosent work
[02:23] <xero> awe now i cant get it back where it belongs:(
[02:23] <xero> weak sauce lol
[02:23] <xero> anyway if anyone can help me with this simple problem i seem to be havin trouble with would be great thx
[02:24] <Autoscum> Hello, it's me again - boot guy!
[02:24] <Autoscum> I'm now trying to make a Windows XP bootable flash. Does anyone know how?
[02:25] <xero> ok if someone could just tell me the command to make /storage acessable that would be fab then i can just leave lol
[02:25] <xero> i dont care about auto mount anymore i just wana get this overwith cuz its makin me mad lol
[02:25] <joejc> are all the stupid bugs that should have caused the release to be delayed fixed?
[02:25] <xero> joejc
[02:25] <xero> u see that little butten on the bottem of your screen
[02:26] <joejc> so no?
[02:26] <poyntz> daskreech: thanks but it didn't work
[02:26] <xero> wate version u have
[02:26] <xero> joejc what version?
[02:26] <xero> u using karmic?
[02:27] <joejc> i was about to dl it
[02:27] <daskreech> xero: How are you doing?
[02:27] <xero> bad das
[02:27] <xero> lol
[02:27] <daskreech> poyntz: What happens when you run xdg-open from the command line?
[02:28] <xero> daskreech do u know the command to just make it read wrightable /storage im not gona make it auto anymore i just wana get this done lol
[02:28] <poyntz> daskreech: you mean xdg-open .mailcap ?
[02:29] <xero> daskreech: yea?\
[02:29] <daskreech> poyntz: some file
[02:29] <daskreech> xero: I don't know is it mounted already ?
[02:29] <xero> yeah
[02:30] <xero> and i have the read only butten non clicked
[02:30] <poyntz> daskreech: well with update-user-mailcap it tells me permission denied. even tho i chmod 755 the file
[02:30] <xero> and i remounted it using storage device manaiger but no luck
[02:30] <foormea> JontheEchidna: actually, my font issue is not really fixed... setting fonts to 96dpi is too small... setting to 120dpi is ok for kde apps, but fonts look slightly ugly in firefox... you were saying that changing fonts in raleigh mode for gtk+ appearance, applying, then setting back to the previous setting would do the trick
[02:31] <daskreech> poyntz: Try it on some file you downloaded
[02:31] <daskreech> xero: do you have it in the /etc/fstab ?
[02:31] <foormea> JontheEchidna: oh wait wait i think i'm an idiot :D
[02:31] <xero> naw i decided not to go that way this time
[02:32] <xero> lol
[02:32] <xero> i just want the command u type in konsol
[02:32] <xero> i cantrember but i know its real easy command
[02:32] <poyntz> daskreech: that was a file i downloaded
[02:32] <xero> anyway i gota go get some bubble tea lol
[02:32] <xero> ill talk to u guys later
[02:33] <foormea> JontheEchidna: yeah no changing font in raleigh then switching back to qtcurve doesn't do the trick on my side
[02:33] <poyntz> daskreech: anyway with the .mailcap file it just opened up kate
[02:34] <poyntz> daskreech: if i try with Warning: unknown mime-type for "update-user-mailcap" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[02:34] <poyntz> gah
[02:34] <poyntz> daskreech: that's what i get if i try it on update-user-mailcap
[02:40] <Autoscum> chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/puppy': Operation not permitted
[02:40] <Autoscum> Does anyone have any idea what this is about? :(
[02:41] <Vouche> hey everybody
[02:41] <Autoscum> Hey, Vouche. :)
[02:41] <Vouche> i just install ubuntu on my lap, i don't have idea how to use it :(
[02:42] <Autoscum> Why did you install it in the first place, then? :P
[02:42] <Vouche> cause Windows suck's
[02:42] <foormea> Autoscum: did you sudo? what partition type is it?
[02:42] <Vouche> but, i just need a mini bible
[02:42] <Autoscum> foormea: I did sudo, it's a fat32
[02:42] <Vouche> graphics are good, and easy, but i can not see the help in the console
[02:43] <Autoscum> Also, how do I run an exe as root?
[02:43] <foormea> Autoscum: mh. if i'm not mistaken for ntfs you need to change uid/gid in fstab or at mount time. i thought fat32 is easier to deal with
[02:43] <foormea> Autoscum: but you could try to unmount, change ownership, then remount?
[02:43] <Autoscum> I'm trying to make a USB bootable flash drive for Windows XP, running a Windows native program through Wine.
[02:43] <Autoscum> Is this insanity? :P
[02:43] <foormea> i don't get it
[02:44] <Autoscum> foormea: Do you know how to make a Windows XP bootable flash drive?
[02:44] <Vouche> just install windows in the usb drive
[02:46] <Autoscum> What?
[02:46] <Autoscum> Install Windows in a 512 USB drive?
[02:46] <Autoscum> 512 MB
[02:46] <Autoscum> I'm trying to put the ISO there, so I can install it from the flash drive due to the lack of CD-ROM or any other removable media.
[02:47] <Autoscum> Except for said 512 MB flash drive.
[02:47] <Autoscum> I already have a small Windows XP installation ISO
[02:48] <Autoscum> The quest is to put it on the Flash drive so it would act as an installation.
[02:48] <Autoscum> Not as a standalone O/S
[02:49] <Autoscum> No ideas huh?
[02:49] <Autoscum> Didn't think so. :/
[02:51] <Autoscum> In other words, I want to burn an image to a USB drive.
[02:59] <daskreech> dd ?
[03:20] <ilumi> Autoscum: there is a special app that puts isos on the usb drive
[03:21] <ilumi> Autoscum: UNetbootin
[03:22] <Autoscum> ilumi: That's for Linux installations only. :(
[03:23] <Autoscum> ilumi: I've already tried it, but if you got something on your mind, please share.
[03:39] <ilumi> Autoscum: dont know anything like that for windows
[03:39] <Autoscum> Alright, ilumi. :) Thanks for the help.
[03:44] <daskreech> Autoscum: I assume you tried asking in Puppy's IRC chan?
[03:44] <Autoscum> daskreech: The Puppy thing was solved. :)
[03:44] <Autoscum> I'm trying to create an XP bootable device now
[03:44] <Autoscum> I'm currently creating it through VMWare Workstation xD
[03:46] <Autoscum> daskreech: And it appears to be working. :)
[03:47] <Autoscum> I'll probably write an article on how to install a Windows XP system if you don't have a CD ROM nor a second hard drive, haha
[03:48] <daskreech> Does it involve downloading Kubuntu ? :)
[03:52] <Autoscum> daskreech: Yep.
[03:53] <Autoscum> daskreech: Downloading Wubi installer on a broken Windows installation, then using the Kubuntu to download VMWare, then creating a boot disk on an MP3 player
[03:53] <Autoscum> and reinstalling
[03:53] <Autoscum> :D
[03:56] <Autoscum> Makes a lot of sense, eh?
[03:56] <daskreech> ha ha Yeah :)
[04:00] <ilumi> Autoscum: why are you installing windows?
[04:00] <Autoscum> ilumi: That's my primary OS.
[04:00] <Autoscum> As much as I hate it, Mass Effect 2 is out xD
[04:00] <Autoscum> and I've got a killer video card that is kinda overkill to use on Linux
[04:00] <Autoscum> lol
[04:01] <Autoscum> ilumi: Of course, once I have Windows up and running, I'll come by from time to time to say hi. ^_^
[04:01] <Autoscum> Haha.
[04:02] <ilumi> yeah i was a big gamer back in the day,  but it's a waste of time, and doesnt teach you jack
[04:02] <daskreech> Wait it's out now?
[04:02] <daskreech> ilumi: Lies!
[04:03] <daskreech> I know to eat mushrooms now :)
[04:04] <ilumi> which mashrooms are you talking about?
[04:07] <Autoscum> daskreech: Mass Effect 2 is out!
[04:07] <Autoscum> daskreech: Release is from Razor 1911
[04:07] <Autoscum> ilumi: Thanks to the CoD series and Fallout 3, I was moved to learn about guns and stuff like that
[04:07] <Autoscum> :P
[04:07] <Autoscum> Sorry, I'm a bit incoherent. It's 6 AM and I haven't slept all night
[04:09] <daskreech> Gnight Autoscum
[04:09] <Autoscum> You're leaving? :P
[04:11] <daskreech> You are
[04:12] <Autoscum> Nah.
[04:12] <Autoscum> Be right back.,
[04:12] <Autoscum> Okay. ^_^
[04:12] <Autoscum> Much better.
[04:12] <Autoscum> daskreech: So, why am I leaving? I still got work to do
[04:13] <Autoscum> :P
[04:23] <victor__> anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3 for kde? i haven't found anything
[04:28] <ilumi> victor__: http://www.federicopistono.org/Set_up_an_MP3_OGG_Alarm_Clock_Using_Linux
[04:28] <daskreech> why do you need it for KDE specifically?
[04:28] <daskreech> kalarm should work
[04:29] <victor__> kalarm doesn't supports mp3 and i cant install alarmclock on kde :S
[04:40] <daskreech> .ogg ?
[04:40] <ilumi> ?
[04:42] <daskreech> victor__: You ca't install alarmclock on kde?
[05:07] <Guest34643> Need to install Nvidia drivers, so that I can increase screen resolution. But how do I get those drivers.
[05:11] <tolpico> There is an nvidia application in software managment . But no way to install it
[05:27] <tolpico> Would someone please help me install nvidia drivers on kubuntu? In hardware drivers dialog it doesnt show the drivers. How should I get it?
[05:29] <Daugha|n> !nvidia
[05:30] <daskreech> tolpico: try jockey-kde
[05:33] <tolpico> daskreech: thanks this is exactly what I was looking for. thanks Daugha|n too for that useful page.
[05:35] <tolpico> daskreech: opening jockey-kde as root gives this error "No protocol specified
[05:35] <tolpico> : cannot connect to X server :0.0"
[05:40] <tolpico> nvm got it from that poage, by opening hardware manager through menus
[06:02] <Daugha|n> Is there a way to reformat a drive, and lock out bad sectors?
[06:31] <james_l> Daugha|n: depending on file system, yes. If you are on one of the extX ones, you can do it without even reformatting with the -c option to fsck.extX.
[06:44] <pat|nG> good mornin everyone
[06:44] <pat|nG> anybody here?
[06:44] <pat|nG> need help
[06:45] <daskreech> with?
[06:48] <pat|nG> i got my laptop and i have win7 and i set the boot setup to cd as it boots up...now im in the process of installing kubuntu....it appears i'm in disk setup...how can i install it without a rewritting my win7 os? all i can see is /dev/sda1 ntfs until sda4.....i don't know which of that my win7 is runnin....so which one i will choose to install kubuntu? i got 3 partition each partition is 80gb how can i know that drive ain't used by win7?
[06:50] <daskreech> You have a /dev/sda1 sda2 sda3 and sda4 ?
[06:52] <pat|nG> daskreech: yes
[06:52] <pat|nG> sda1 0.0%(100MB) sda2 35.5%(78.0GB) sda3 33.5% (78.1GB) sda4 32.9% (76.6GB)
[06:52] <pat|nG> that's wat it is stated right now
[06:53] <daskreech> well all the partitions have something on them.
[06:53] <daskreech> Laptop?
[06:54] <pat|nG> yes
[06:55] <pat|nG> so which one will i chose?
[06:55] <pat|nG> is it dev/sda2?
[06:55] <daskreech> Right so the first partition is the utilties section
[06:55] <daskreech> pat|nG: What do you have on the three partitions?
[06:56] <pat|nG> coz sda1 size is 104mb used is 35mb and in sda2 83782mb size and used is 11491mb
[06:56] <pat|nG> in drive c in win7
[06:56] <pat|nG> and 1 is for my full kubuntu
[06:56] <pat|nG> and the other one is reserve for my next exploration to gentoo
[06:56] <kyubutsu> win7 is going to be in the partition with the most used space.. so avoid that one
[06:57] <pat|nG> but for now i just need kubuntu to be installed safe
[06:57] <daskreech> pat|nG: ok but there are things on them now?
[06:57] <pat|nG> nope
[06:57] <pat|nG> c is full for win7 and the 2 partition remainings are empty
[06:58] <daskreech> pat|nG: not according to that :)
[06:58] <daskreech> pat|nG: Ok open Dolphin
[06:58] <kyubutsu> also, the installer should give you the option to 'install side by side' so as to not overwrite other existing operating systems
[06:58] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: i did manual setup
[06:58] <pat|nG> :(
[06:59] <pat|nG> do i need to hit back?
[06:59] <kyubutsu> you can , yes
[06:59] <daskreech> pat|nG: open Dolphin
[06:59] <pat|nG> i don't know dolphin
[06:59] <pat|nG> what is that bro?
[06:59] <daskreech> pat|nG: press alt+F2 then type dolphin
[07:00] <maco> pat|nG: the file manager in kde
[07:00] <pat|nG> didn't show anything bro
[07:00] <daskreech> alt+F2 didn't show anything ?
[07:01] <pat|nG> wait it says here: HOW DO YOU WANT TO PARTITION DISK? CHOICES : ERASE AND USE THE ENTIRE DISK? SPECIFY PARTITIONS MANUALLY
[07:01] <pat|nG> daskreech: no bro
[07:01] <daskreech> Ah Right laptop
[07:01] <daskreech> open the K Menu in the lower left and type dolphin
[07:02] <pat|nG> bro i don't have that menu
[07:03] <daskreech> pat|nG: Ah let me see you choose install Kubuntu from the menu when the CD first started up ?
[07:05] <pat|nG> yes
[07:05] <Daugha|n> daskreech: Lemme know when ya got some time. I have a few new tricks I wanna try, and these should be easier than the lanboot one.=)
[07:05] <pat|nG> that's it
[07:05] <daskreech> pat|nG: ah ok so you aren't on the same laptop now talking to us?
[07:06] <Autoscum> I'm still alive!
[07:06] <Autoscum> Waiting for the Windows XP to copy!
[07:06] <Autoscum> :(
[07:06] <Daugha|n> Autoscum: Dare I ask?
[07:06] <pat|nG> nope
[07:06] <pat|nG> i'm using my desktop
[07:07] <Kage> ok... I installed Qt 4.6.2 with declaratives.... now how do I tell qmake to use 4.6.2, its still trying to use 4.5.2
[07:07] <daskreech> pat|nG: Well if you want a definitive answer you can either go through with some command line instructions I can give you or reboot to the Try Kubuntu now option
[07:08] <daskreech> Command line is faster but a little more frustrating Reboot is longer but should be easier on the nerves
[07:08] <Autoscum> Daugha|n: Sure, ask away. Haha
[07:08] <Daugha|n> Why xp....????
[07:08] <Autoscum> Daugha|n: I'm trying to copy a Windows CD to a USB Flash drive in VMWare workstation, so it would be bootable.
[07:08] <Daugha|n> Ah....That makes sense. =)
[07:09] <Autoscum> It's been 40 minutes, it's copied 70 MB.
[07:09] <Autoscum> Now I know what "painfully slow" means. :D
[07:09] <Daugha|n> I need to set up an xp image so I can install via lanbot oneof these days.
[07:09] <Daugha|n> That remonds me of dialup.....
[07:10] <Daugha|n> Cannot say I miss those days.
[07:10] <Autoscum> Indeed.
[07:10] <Autoscum> :P
[07:11] <pat|nG> daskreech: i think i saw already this dolphin u're talkin bro
[07:11] <pat|nG> i'm here in dolphin now
[07:11] <pat|nG> so wats next?
[07:11] <Autoscum> Daugha|n, well the saddest thing is, I stayed up all night researching how to make a bootable XP flash from Linux
[07:11] <Autoscum> That returned no results :(
[07:11] <Daugha|n> Autoscum: I gots some questions about data recovery, you know much
[07:11] <Autoscum> So I thought VMWare would help.
[07:12] <Autoscum> Daugha|n, I doubt I know as much as you think, but I'll try to help.
[07:12] <Autoscum> Shoot. :)
[07:12] <Daugha|n> Autoscum: Took me three days and four people helping to get lanboot working, so, I understand,.
[07:12] <daskreech> pat|nG: Great ok you should have a left panel
[07:12] <Autoscum> Haha.
[07:12] <Autoscum> Lanboot ^_^
[07:12] <daskreech> with some things like Home and Root
[07:12] <Daugha|n> Just wondered how hard it is to recover data that was on the hd before ubuntu was installed.
[07:12] <daskreech> at the Bottom should be 4 hard drives which are your 4 partitions
[07:12] <daskreech> you can click them to see what's in each
[07:12] <Autoscum> Hold on :)
[07:13] <Autoscum> Unetbootin has a lot of recovery software ready-to-go
[07:13] <pat|nG> can i pm u daskreech?
[07:13] <Daugha|n> Autoscum: I had an issue where lanboot was the only option....NOw that I got it working, well...It sure is a nice option.
[07:13] <daskreech> pat|nG: pl
[07:14] <Autoscum> Daugha|n, I hear you! :) But seeing how my other PC doesn't have a hard drive, I doubt that'll be any good for me.
[07:14] <Daugha|n> Autoscum: Ya, I had an HD, just no removable media options.
[07:15] <Autoscum> Haha.
[07:15] <Autoscum> I'm actually using a SANG MP3 player that I bought a few years ago.
[07:15] <Autoscum> It's got 512 MB of memory.
[07:15] <Autoscum> 487 of which are usable. :P
[07:15] <Daugha|n> Using it as the flash drive?
[07:15] <Autoscum> Yeah!
[07:15] <Autoscum> :P
[07:16] <Daugha|n> Thats hilarious.... =) Good luck.
[07:16] <Autoscum> Haha.
[07:16] <Autoscum> Yeah, it's quite funny.
[07:16] <kyubutsu> why dont you take your conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:16] <Autoscum> Especially how my 250 GB drive just stopped working :(
[07:16] <Autoscum> kyubutsu, or maybe to /query?
[07:17] <kyubutsu> offtopic is better..
[07:22] <muhandash> Hello?
[07:22] <daskreech> hi
[07:23] <kyubutsu> !ask
[07:23] <Autoscum> daskreech, we're too late. :(
[07:23] <Autoscum> He quit lol
[07:53] <noaXess> good morning.. how is life today? end of week?
[08:03] <Daugha|n> It exists....
[08:04] <Daugha|n> OK, now to some work.....I have a wd external with bad sectors, what would be the best way to go about reformatting and cutting out the bad sectors?
[08:06] <daskreech> badblocks
[08:07] <Daugha|n> Lemme check.
[08:08] <Daugha|n> Disk Util just shows 14 bad sectors.
[08:24] <zubin71> hi! im using karmic rite now with KDE. for some reason i cant assign keyboard shortcuts for shifting between workspaces. please help.
[08:30] <daskreech> zubin71: Ctrl+F1 F2 F3 Doesn't work?
[08:43] <Daugha|n> If I reformat as ext4 after running badblocks, will there be any problems with ubuntu recognizing the drive as an external?
[08:50] <MarcoPau> hello, compositing is almost always not enabled when I log into X, do you guys have a clue on this problem?
[08:55] <varanus> MarcoPau: do you have an ati videom card?
[08:56] <daskreech> !ph | pat|nG
[08:58] <MarcoPau> varanus: yes I do
[08:59] <varanus> MarcoPau: even though i can't help you very much cause i'm not an expert, i resolved this problem by installing the radeon driver wich is the open one, or you can try to get the latest catalyst driver from ati
[09:00] <varanus> but it was an known issue with the ati driver
[09:01] <MarcoPau> varanus: I'm using the catalyst driver
[09:04] <varanus> MarcoPau: the easiest way it to install the newest catalyst to see if it fixes it, the bit "harder" way is installing the radeon driver which works better imho. i installed the radeon and works just fine. i'm sorry that i can't help you more.
[09:04] <MarcoPau> ok
[09:04] <MarcoPau> varanus: thanks for the hint
[09:04] <varanus> np
[09:06] <MarcoPau> varanus: by radeon drivers you mean the ones coming with karmic right?
[09:07] <varanus> MarcoPau: yes, the ones in the repository
[09:07] <varanus> MarcoPau: before instaling that be sure to completely uninstall the catalyst, always if you go installing them
[09:09] <varanus> MarcoPau: there is one thing that could create you a little problem and not see the X right away. in the /ect/X11/ there is the xorg.conf file created by the catalyst
[09:11] <varanus> MarcoPau: before restarting with the new driver you have to delete that xorg.conf so the system starts using the radeon driver. i good thing is to backup it before deleting from there
[09:11] <MarcoPau> varanus: actually some of us (me included) already had recent problems with the radeon drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306215 anyway I'll give it a try now
[09:12] <varanus> MarcoPau: i'm not an expert but i have installed the radeon 5 days ago with no problems, but i can't assure you nothing, i'm sorry. just to let you know i got an hd4850
[09:23] <ubuntu_nuevo> HOla
[09:23] <ubuntu_nuevo> ¿HAyalguien?
[09:23] <ubuntu_nuevo> hOLAAAAAAAAAA
[09:24] <ubuntu_nuevo> ¿Estan?
[09:25] <re1n7> mm..
[09:25] <ubuntu_nuevo> hola
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> Estas?
[09:26] <pat|nG> anyone?
[09:27] <pat|nG> i type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used
[09:27] <pat|nG> does it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?
[09:28] <ubuntu_nuevo> I.m spain
[09:28] <kyubutsu> !es | ubuntu_nuevo
[09:28] <ubuntu_nuevo> ubootu
[09:28] <ubuntu_nuevo> ya en entrado
[09:29] <ubuntu_nuevo> y no responde nadie.
[09:36] <tolpico> !xorg
[09:39] <tolpico> After installing Nvidia Drivers my desktop reolution came down to 640x480 from 800x600. The drivers are activated and I am sure  they are the correct recommended ones.
[09:39] <tolpico> Also tried Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0" but no luck
[09:41] <tolpico> My current xorg.conf, if it helps: http://pastebin.com/m54aa16be
[09:45] <Autoscum> tolpico: sudo nvidia-settings
[09:45] <Autoscum> :)
[09:45] <Autoscum> Switch the resolution and tell it to save to X config file
[09:46] <tolpico> In the resolution list there are only two of them, 640x480 and  320x420
[09:48] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[09:48] <contrast> I keep getting this error for applications which are run as root: "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." Any ideas? I googled around and didn't find anything helpful.
[09:49] <tolpico> Autoscum: can I use a template of xorg and replace the resoution value my monitor supports by myself?
[09:50] <Autoscum> Sure.
[09:51] <Autoscum> You can manually edit xorg.conf
[09:51] <Autoscum> Though, that may cause difficulties
[09:51] <Autoscum> if the correct display adapter isn't selected in the file
[09:51] <Autoscum> Sorry if my messages are fragmented, I haven't slept all night :D
[09:52] <ubsafder> hello
[09:52] <Autoscum> Hey ubsafder.
[09:52] <tolpico> Autoscum: oh all help is appreciated, ;)
[09:53] <ubsafder> my linux hangs with booting can i skill all starting services from grub ( that's all i have  ?
[09:53] <ubsafder> skip not skill
[09:53] <tolpico> actually thats the problem, to manually edit it. But I am sure my monito supports 1024x768/. So I need to just put them but dont know how
[09:54] <tolpico> sry to Autoscum actually thats the problem, to manually edit it. But I am sure my monito supports 1024x768/. So I need to just put them but dont know how
[09:54] <ubsafder> even recovery mode won't boot
[09:56] <zubin71> daskreech : i cant shift workspaces even if i have assigned keyboard ahortcuts for it
[10:02] <ubsafder> can i boot with a sort of prompt to confirm starting services ?
[10:02] <ubsafder> for each service
[10:04] <kyubutsu> ubsafder:  you can only do that if you could at least get into recovery mode
[10:05] <ubsafder> ok i am still far from that i have a service that hang in anyboot
[10:05] <kyubutsu> if you need to access files in the drive you can boot up  from a live cd
[10:06] <ubsafder> ok and then ?
[10:06] <kyubutsu> as far as actually fixing the system, i dont have an answer tho
[10:07] <kyubutsu> sounds like you might want to back up your data and reinstall.. but you're welcome to stick around and maybe someone else has a better way to aid you
[10:12] <tolpico> sorry, did a restart to check if i can sort out resolution problem but no luck, any messages for me above?
[10:16] <ubsafder> what is the default level ?
[10:17] <ubsafder> for ubuntu 5?
[10:19] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:19] <cousin_mario> what's the cleanest way to enlarge all system chars?
[10:31] <pat|nG> anyone here?
[10:31] <pat|nG> how can i have a 3D desktop?
[10:33] <varanus> hi all, i'm going through a sound problem in kubuntu karmic. even though sound output works fine i can't capture sound from the mic. the only clue i have is by running skype from konsole and getting the following error: ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM null
[10:36] <Autoscum> !PulseAudio | varanus
[10:36] <Autoscum> It's a PulseAudio error. :)
[10:37] <varanus> Autoscum: but pulseaudio is not intended to be used with kde or am i wrong?
[10:37] <Autoscum> varanus: I'm with Karmic as well and I am using PulseAudio :)
[10:37] <Autoscum> Go to System Settings -> Multimedia and test out all devices
[10:38] <varanus> Autoscum: ok, i'll try installing it hope to get it right cause i gave it a try sometimes and i got no sound.
[10:39] <varanus> Autoscum: shall i ask you one more thing. does libpulse0 needs to be installed to use alsa or not? cause is the only paskage from pulse i have installed
[10:39] <Autoscum> That's THE PulseAudio
[10:39] <Autoscum> Uhh
[10:39] <Autoscum> Damn, sleep depravation takes its toll :P
[10:40] <Autoscum> Soo uhh... Yes. If you have alsa on the backend, install libpulse0
[10:40] <tolpico> Autoscum: have a nap, it feels 7th heaven, It happens with me too :)
[10:40] <Autoscum> tolpico: Not until I install that damn Windows XP and download Mass Effect 2
[10:40] <Autoscum> xD
[10:41] <Autoscum> My Internet will stop tomorrow around this time
[10:41] <Autoscum> Less than 24 hours
[10:41] <Autoscum> I haven't paid it lol
[10:41] <Autoscum> So, sleeping is not an option until everything is finished. :)
[10:41] <tolpico> I see :)
[10:42] <varanus> Autoscum: ty very much for the link, i'll give it a try :). lol,  i wish you to get everything done then :)
[10:43] <Autoscum> No problem, varanus.
[10:43] <Autoscum> I've frustrated many users on here when I was new.
[10:43] <Autoscum> Time to give back to the community. xD
[10:43] <zubin71> daskreech : CRTL+ F1 etc. works but how do i change it?
[10:46] <varanus> Autoscum: i know what u mean :D, done it for a while but now i'm more familiar with forums too so i try to frustrate ppl less xD. but this audio thing it's a week i'm getting frustrated lol
[10:46] <varanus> beb
[10:52] <Autoscum> Ah crap!
[10:53] <Autoscum> I just crapped up my audio :(
[10:54] <Autoscum> I'll be back.
[10:54] <Autoscum> AAAAH
[10:55] <Autoscum> I almost canceled 6 hours of file transfer!
[10:55] <Autoscum> Damn I almost had a heart attack!
[10:56] <Autoscum> Bah, there goes my cardio exercise for the day. xD
[10:58] <while> lol
[10:58] <while> Authority, nice
[10:58] <while> Autoscum, nice
[10:58] <while> :D
[10:59] <Autoscum> while: Yeah... very nice.
[10:59] <Autoscum> I'm steel feeling the adrenaline... remembering how I was saying NOO NO NO NO NO
[11:00] <Autoscum> But then VMWare asked me to confirm it and I said cancel.
[11:00] <Autoscum> Phew
[11:48] <pat|nG> hello?
[11:49] <omer> hello
[11:49] <pat|nG> omer can u help me out?
[11:49] <pat|nG> how can i activate my 3D desktop?
[11:51] <omer> package manager and install the Compiz compiz 3d desktop settings option of the activity
[11:51] <hateball> !ccsm
[11:52] <hateball> but Kwin has all that jazz these days doesnt it
[11:52] <pat|nG> i see it but no effects at all
[11:52] <pat|nG> i see the 3D visual effects and checked it
[11:52] <pat|nG> but nothing happens
[11:52] <pat|nG> weird isnt it?
[11:55] <omer> After you select and click on the 3d desktopu settings determined by its own shortcut keys along the shortcuts will work after you apply
[11:58] <omer> could you?
[12:07] <pat|nG> how come i can't view videos in my youtube page?
[12:07] <pat|nG> no flash player
[12:07] <pat|nG> how can i have one?
[12:08] <pat|nG> anyone?
[12:11] <pat|nG> how come i can't view videos in my youtube page?
[12:11] <pat|nG> no flash player
[12:11] <pat|nG> how can i have one?
[12:16] <sandhya> Hi, the preview pane in Dolphin is missing
[12:16] <sandhya> How do I get it back?
[12:16] <sandhya> View -> Preview is checked
[12:16] <soee> pat|nG: try installing restricted-extras for kubuntu
[12:17] <Autoscum> Okay, PulseAudio is freaking out.
[12:17] <Autoscum> It isn't operational, again.
[12:17] <Autoscum> !PulseAudio
[12:17] <pat|nG> how?
[12:17] <pat|nG> soee: how?
[12:17] <soee> use your kpackagekit tool
[12:18] <sandhya> anybody able to help?
[12:19] <pat|nG> i tried to download from adobe but it says unknown blah blah blah....checking.....installation window appear but nothing happnd actually
[12:21] <soee> pat|nG: run kpackageit and search for it than select to install kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[12:22] <pat|nG> couldnt find kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:22] <pat|nG> :(
[12:25] <soee> pat|nG: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/
[12:42] <pat|nG> soee
[12:42] <pat|nG> i already install
[12:42] <pat|nG> but it's the same
[12:46] <zorvalt> Hey everybody !
[12:47] <zorvalt> Does somebody know how to set a USB headset as the main sound output of Kubuntu ?
[12:52] <while> zorvalt, no ideea
[12:52] <zorvalt> while: ok, thanks. Anyone else ?
[12:54] <Peace-> zorvalt: try to join in #alsa
[12:54] <zorvalt> Peace-: ok
[13:01] <zorvalt> It's Okay, I just installed pulseaudio and it worked
[13:01] <zorvalt> Bye ;)
[13:14] <giuseppe_> hello
[13:14] <giuseppe_> i have a problem with youtube video with firefox
[13:14] <Autoscum> !PulseAudio | giuseppe_
[13:15] <Autoscum> Click that article and then navigate to Problems with flash :)
[13:15] <giuseppe_> thank's
[13:17] <pat|nG> huhuhu
[13:17] <pat|nG> anyone?
[13:17] <pat|nG> im lost
[13:18] <Daugha|n> Hunh???
[13:18] <pat|nG> i accidentally close my panel
[13:18] <pat|nG> like in windows the start up?
[13:18] <pat|nG> i mean start?
[13:18] <giuseppe_> i don't find my problem
[13:18] <pat|nG> i can't find it anymore
[13:18] <pat|nG> how can i get back that tray panel?
[13:18] <giuseppe_> when i connect to youtube, firefox not work
[13:18] <giuseppe_> which is problem?
[13:19] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: Try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:19] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: As in 'apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[13:20] <Daugha|n> pat|nG: I forget how to fix your problem. =(
[13:20] <giuseppe_> so i write: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[13:21] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_:  in cli, yes.
[13:21] <Daugha|n> Err....Konsole.
[13:22] <giuseppe_> ok
[13:26] <giuseppe_> ooo no
[13:26] <giuseppe_> there is problem
[13:26] <Daugha|n> ???
[13:26] <Daugha|n> Yes, noone here to help me with my problems.=)
[13:26] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_:  WHat ya got?
[13:27] <Kolia> pat|nG: the whole panel of just the K menu?
[13:29] <giuseppe_> when i go to youtube, my browser not work
[13:30] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: Need to be a little more specific than that. Does it close down, does it stop respoinding, does it just not play videos, exactly *what* does not work.
[13:31] <ken_fallon> Afternoon
[13:31] <Daugha|n> Monring.
[13:32] <ken_fallon> Can someone tell me which process manages the taskbar where the Kmenu, clock etc lives
[13:32] <giuseppe_> when i connect to youtube, video ready
[13:32] <Tm_T> ken_fallon: Plasma
[13:33] <pat|nG> how can i get back that tray panel? like in windows we have this start button in kubuntu the K icon on the lower left...how can i get that back?
[13:33] <Daugha|n> Hey, Tm_T
[13:33] <ken_fallon> It keeps freezing and I need to restart it
[13:33] <Tm_T> ken_fallon: or more precise, plasma-desktop most likely
[13:33] <ken_fallon> Tm_T: thanks
[13:33] <Kolia> pat|nG: the K menu or the whole panel?
[13:34] <ken_fallon> Kolia: the whole panel - also happens on Debian Sid
[13:34] <giuseppe_> but i don't listen audio
[13:34] <pat|nG> yes
[13:34] <pat|nG> the whole panel
[13:34] <giuseppe_> if i change page or search other video, my browser don't work
[13:34] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: SO, you just have no sound for youtube
[13:34] <pat|nG> i accidentally closed
[13:34] <Kolia> ken_fallon: pat|nG : right click > add panel then if you just want to add one
[13:34] <giuseppe_> yes but i can't change website
[13:35] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: Ok, firefox stops responding.
[13:35] <giuseppe_> if i connect to youtube, after i can't change website because firefox don't work
[13:35] <ken_fallon> Kolia: thanks but this is a freeze issue. I.E the clock is frozen. I just needed to know which process to look at
[13:35] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: Dont go to youtube. :P
[13:36] <Daugha|n> ken_fallon: Kolia is trying to help someone else.=)
[13:36] <ken_fallon> Daugha|n: thanks
[13:37] <Daugha|n> giuseppe_: WHat is the load on your processor?
[13:38] <Kolia> ken_fallon: plasma-desktop is the process
[13:38] <Kolia> ken_fallon: this is the same for the whole plasma thing (wallpaper, panel,widgets..)
[13:42] <ken_fallon> I killed the panel with the Ctl+Alt+Esc and the plasma-desktop process was still running as kdeinit4: plasma-desktop [kdeinit]
[13:42] <ken_fallon> running kdeinit4 plasma-desktop
[13:42] <ken_fallon> did not spawn a new one
[13:43] <Kolia> ken_fallon: kquitapp plasma-desktop
[13:43] <Kolia> ken_fallon: and then,  plasma-desktop to restart it
[13:44] <Kolia> your screen will go black for a second, but the console will remain
[13:46] <Daugha|n> How do I optimize ubuntu for streaming video from sites like zshare and stagevu?
[13:47] <ken_fallon> Kolia: Excellent thanks. It works now. Now I'd like to be able to file a bug against this crash. How can I go about getting usefull information ?
[13:48] <Kolia> ken_fallon: hum i tihnk it's too late. Generally when it crashes, you get a popup giving you the backtrace and an interface to report the bug
[13:49] <kyubutsu> also
[13:49] <kyubutsu> !bug
[13:49] <Kolia> ken_fallon: you can try asking on #kde-bugs if this is possible to collect information after it's been restored
[13:50] <ken_fallon> Thanks i'll go over there. However this happens a few times a day so it should be easy to reproduce
[13:50] <ken_fallon> Thanks everyone - have a good weekend
[13:52] <Kolia> ken_fallon: then it has probably been reported already, and even probably fixed in the development version (but you cans still report it) :)
[13:53] <ken_fallon> No harm to know how to report it anyway :)
[13:53] <pat|nG> i check all box in window management...including the desktop cube animation desktop cube and all under window management but no effect? why?
[13:57] <martijn> hi, i want login under root by su under bash, but when i do that it says there is a verification fault
[13:58] <martijn> how do i enter su level?
[14:07] <kyubutsu> !sudo | martijn
[14:10] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: i cannot do a 3D desktop i check all box from window management
[14:10] <pat|nG> nothing happend?
[14:11] <pat|nG> :(
[14:11] <pat|nG> anyone?
[14:13] <kyubutsu> pat|nG: you got an ati card?
[14:14] <Kolia> pat|nG: people are answering youi, but you never listen/answer them.
[14:15] <pat|nG> i don't have ati i think i got dell 1545
[14:15] <pat|nG> i don't know
[14:15] <pat|nG> not that comp exprt tho
[14:15] <pat|nG> but i think dell 1545 got nvdia
[14:17] <kyubutsu> alright, check if the proprietary driver is activated in   kickoff>applications>hardware drivers
[14:18] <martijn> i tried it with & kdesudo vuurmuur but this gives me nothing
[14:18] <kyubutsu> why does that program needs root priviledges?
[14:19] <martijn> i have not questioned me this to be honest
[14:19] <martijn> $ vuurmuur
[14:19] <martijn> Error: you are not root! Exitting.
[14:20] <martijn> am i the only dude where su does not work?
[14:20] <Pici> !sudo | martijn
[14:20] <kyubutsu> if you trust the program do    sudo vuurmuur   in terminal
[14:21] <martijn> when i do a & sudo vuurmuur it gives me no output, weird
[14:21] <kyubutsu> i already gave him that factoid, Pici
[14:21] <Pici> kyubutsu: Ah, I missed it.
[14:22] <kyubutsu> i just dont know what vuurmuur is or what it does
[14:22] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system? what does it mean?
[14:22] <martijn> and when i do $ sudo -i
[14:22] <martijn> root@jupiter-laptop:~# vuurmuur
[14:22] <Pici> kyubutsu: It looks to be a iptables/netfilter admin program
[14:22] <Pici> !info vuurmuur
[14:22] <martijn> it gives me nothing again
[14:23] <kyubutsu> pat|nG:  did you see any drivers listed in there at all?
[14:24] <kyubutsu> martijn:  maybe there is no graphical front end to it
[14:24] <Pici> martijn: They have a channel here #-19-26-27-28-33-34-36-38-40-45-46-53 • 275 nicks (@1 %0 +0 274) •
[14:24] <Pici> [#kubuntu] martijn: They have a channel here #
[14:24] <Pici> er.. wrong paste (clearly)
[14:25] <martijn> okok thanks!
[14:25] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: nothing
[14:25] <Pici> martijn: Since we don't know much about the program, perhaps the folks in #vuurmuur can help
[14:25] <pat|nG> does it mean i don't have one? i only got a built-in gfxcard?
[14:25] <martijn> i will go there, thanks for working with me
[14:31] <kyubutsu> pat|nG: open a terminal and type   lspci   and press enter
[14:32] <kyubutsu> look for a line that reads    vga compatible controller
[14:33] <kyubutsu> it will tell you what video card you have
[14:34] <kyubutsu> there is a more elegant way to bring it up but i dont recall it
[14:36] <Daugha|n> lspci | grep vga?
[14:36] <kyubutsu> nope..
[14:36] <kyubutsu> close tho
[14:36] <Daugha|n> SOunds falimiar. =)
[14:36] <Daugha|n> Familiar, even..
[14:37] <Daugha|n> cat + lapto == even worse typing than usual.
[14:46] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: i got a vga compatible controller: intel corp mobile 4 series chipset integrated gfx controller
[14:48] <kyubutsu> to my knowledge integrated graphics dont do 3d acceleration too well if at all ..
[14:49] <pat|nG> i think so too
[14:49] <pat|nG> :(
[14:49] <pat|nG> kyubutsu: how about i can't view videos from youtube?
[14:50] <kyubutsu> you need !flash
[14:50] <kyubutsu> !flash | pat|nG
[14:50] <pat|nG> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3109617.0 <--- i did follow all of the instructions here
[14:51] <pat|nG> it runs but when i try to open the konqueror web browser flash player needed
[14:51] <pat|nG> :(
[14:51] <pat|nG> all updates are done
[14:51] <pat|nG> works fine
[14:51] <kyubutsu> install firefox .. works better
[14:51] <Daugha|n> apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:51] <Daugha|n> :P
[14:52] <pat|nG> how can i install firefox?
[14:52] <genii> Daugha|n: With kubuntu-restricted-extras  konq might actually understand Flash ...
[14:52] <pat|nG> i click on mozilla firefox installer it has +install x exit
[14:54] <Daugha|n> genii: No clue, I tried konq once, and promptly deleted it. =)
[14:56] <Daugha|n> Now, there's an idea....
[14:56] <Daugha|n> How do I get a different activity on each screen?
[14:57] <Daugha|n> Hey, ilumi
[14:58] <kyubutsu> btw, Daugha|n , the command is   lspci | grep VGA   just gotta capitalize vga tho
[14:58] <kyubutsu> or wont work
[14:58] <pat|nG> i got it kyubutsu but no sound
[14:58]  * kyubutsu chuckles
[14:58] <pat|nG> hehe
[14:58] <ilumi> hey
[14:58] <Daugha|n> kyubutsu: Figgers. =)
[14:59] <pat|nG> anyone? i got the video working but no sounds
[14:59] <pat|nG> hehe
[14:59] <ilumi> is that a new distro i never heard about?
[15:00] <Daugha|n> pat|nG: So, fix the sound.:P
[15:00] <pat|nG> hahaha
[15:00] <pat|nG> how?
[15:01] <Daugha|n> pat|nG: Start by making sure all the sound levels are up?
[15:03] <Daugha|n> There a plugin I need to run multiple monitors?
[15:09] <pat|nG> anyone?
[15:09] <pat|nG> i tried to test on sound system in amarok when i click test it works
[15:09] <pat|nG> but i can't hear a sound in youtube videos
[15:15] <Mannequin> hi, I've added the Kubuntu Beta PPA, so to beable to install KDE SC 4.4rc1, but after updating sources, I don't see any KDE update
[15:15] <Mannequin> (I've done this a few days ago, and I've waited until today)
[15:15] <Mannequin> what may I be missing?
[15:16] <Mannequin> I followed the Software Repository Guides
[15:16] <Mannequin> and added the repository to my list of sources
[15:16] <Mannequin> maybe I should add this somewhere?
[15:16] <Mannequin> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[15:16] <Mannequin> (but where?)
[15:18] <Mannequin> mmmm, it seems I've added the wrong repository
[15:18] <Mannequin> backports != beta, right?
[15:25] <pat|nG> i can't open my kmix?
[15:25] <pat|nG> y?
[15:26] <Daugha|n> pat|nG: I dunno, I resolve any sound issues in gnome.
[15:26] <pat|nG> i just installed pulseaduio
[15:26] <pat|nG> but still no sounds
[15:26] <pat|nG> :(
[15:32] <ilumi> pat|nG: purge pulseaudio, install alsa and alsa-oss, reboot
[15:33] <avihay> anyone experiencing slow compositing with kwin?
[15:37] <valerio_> #ubuntu-it-bar
[15:38] <pat|nG> ilumi
[15:38] <pat|nG> how can i install alsa?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> pat|nG, in the terminal, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[15:40] <pat|nG> got it
[15:40] <pat|nG> alsa-base is already the newest version
[15:40] <pat|nG> alsa-utils is already the newest version
[15:43] <BluesKaj> pat|nG,open kmix and make sure all ctrls are up to 75%  and  is pulseaudio installed in system settings /multimedia
[15:45] <pat|nG> BluesKaj: the problem is no matter how i click kmix it will not open
[15:46] <BluesKaj> pat|nG, can you see any souncrds listed in system settings/multimedia
[15:46] <genii> When kmix won't open it's usually because the system doesn't find anything attached that it considers a sound device to use. eg: no driver
[15:47] <slow-motion> hi
[15:49] <pat|nG> yes
[15:50] <genii> pat|nG: What is result of: lspci -nn | grep Audio
[15:50] <BluesKaj> pat|nG, highlight the listed card and run the test box
[15:50] <pat|nG> i got a HDA Intel (stac92xx analog
[15:50] <genii> !intelhda
[15:50] <pat|nG> and pulseaudio
[15:50] <pat|nG> it works both
[15:51] <pat|nG> but i still got no sounds in youtube
[15:51] <genii> Is the embedded volume control inside the flash player turned up/unmuted?
[15:52] <pat|nG> where can i find it?
[15:52] <genii> Usually lower right of the video which is playing
[15:53] <pat|nG> it is on and full volume
[15:54] <BluesKaj> pat|nG, sometimes pulseaudio interferes and over rides alsa settings ...try removing it ..you can always reinstall
[16:01] <pat|nG> i have to remove?
[16:07] <Guest40414> First time on- I am investigating the idea of making the switch from gnome to kde in ubuntu, but I have failed miserably at setting up wlan0
[16:07] <Guest40414> How do I get to a subject chat?
[16:29] <gino_> ciao
[16:30] <Peace-> hi
[16:30] <ilumi> hiiii
[16:58] <Dubh`Tiegr> That was n9to fun.
[16:59] <Daughain> Ok......ANyone have any idea why instalkling kwlan killed all net access??
[16:59] <Daughain> Or even how to configure the crappy thing?
[17:00] <pat|nG> Daughain
[17:00] <pat|nG> i just got it
[17:00] <pat|nG> deng
[17:00] <pat|nG> i just type alsamixer on terminal
[17:01] <pat|nG> then puff a mixer and adjusted it like the PCM
[17:01] <pat|nG> wew
[17:01] <pat|nG> now it's working
[17:01] <Daughain> pat|nG my other system w9ont acknowledge either an eth0 OR a wlan0.
[17:01] <Daughain> Sorry, but I have other concerns right now., =)
[17:02] <pat|nG> it's awkie
[17:02] <pat|nG> thanx anyways
[17:02] <pat|nG> hehe
[17:03] <Daughain> Dammit...\
[17:04] <Daughain> Ok....
[17:06] <Daughain> Hey,  BluesKaj
[17:06] <Daughain> Got a min?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> what's up , Daughain ?
[17:09] <Daughain> Whiloe installing kde stuff to try and get my sedcond monitor working, I installed kwlan. That was great, until it discionnected me, and refused to acknowledge either eth0 or wlan0
[17:09] <Daughain> I remnoived kwlan, but still cant get network tools to acjnowledge anything else except a loopback interface.  Even though the system is plugged into the lan.
[17:11] <Daughain> That system is back in gn9ome right now, sionce I can a5t least find things there.)\
[17:11] <WaltzingAlong> sigh
[17:11] <Daughain> WaltzingAlong: I agree.=)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> Daughain, I suggest you use /etc/network/interfaces/ to connect your eth0 , eth0=dhcp in the cli , unless you use a static IP
[17:13] <BluesKaj> Daughain, then run , sudo dhclient eth0
[17:14] <Daughain> I can use the same commands to reconnect my wlan0 as well?
[17:15] <Daugha|n> HOney, I'm home.
[17:15] <pat|nG> how can i set my panel back to normal?
[17:16] <Daugha|n> Thanks as always, BluesKaj
[17:16] <pat|nG> i accidentally closed it
[17:16] <BluesKaj> usually yes but your encryption settings need to be listed aswell wpa2 apa-psk and passphrases etc
[17:16] <BluesKaj> wpa-psk
[17:17] <pat|nG> how can i set my panel back to normal?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> normaL?
[17:18] <pat|nG> yup
[17:18] <BluesKaj> dunno what that is
[17:18] <pat|nG> i got the K icon on the lower left
[17:18] <pat|nG> but now it's gone
[17:19] <BluesKaj> right click to add the kicker widget
[17:19] <pat|nG> in windows we have this start button and the time display
[17:20] <WaltzingAlong> in sharpe the bars can be customized as one sees fit, as well
[17:20] <BluesKaj> pat|nG, we know but just , right click on the desktop add widgets , dpouble click on the blue "K" when you find it
[17:21] <pat|nG> i got it but it was place on the centre
[17:21] <pat|nG> hehehe
[17:23] <BluesKaj> well then click on the cashwe icon in the right corner them move the K tp where you want
[17:23] <BluesKaj> cashew icon
[17:24] <artemis> hey guild, do you know how to use ethernet and wireless at the sametime?
[17:25] <WaltzingAlong> artemis: my computer does that often  ... but for different networks
[17:27] <artemis> anyone ?
[17:27] <artemis> :-< thx anyway
[17:27] <BluesKaj> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1108905.html artemis,
[17:28] <BluesKaj> no patience , must young and entitled :)
[17:29] <WaltzingAlong> and part of a system that encourages and reinforces such behaviors
[17:30] <Dubh`Tiegr> lopes over to sniff at bulldog98, learning the scent for later fetching if needed.
[17:32] <Dau`gone> BluesKaj; What was the second cli comnnand again? Apparently switching to kde caused a problem.
[17:33] <Dau`gone> I got it,
[17:34] <Daugha|n> I hopeI dont have to do that on every reboot.
[17:35] <TheAncientGoat> Grrrr
[17:35] <TheAncientGoat> Darn plasma
[17:35] <Daugha|n> Agreed.
[17:36] <TheAncientGoat> When I add a widget to a panel, nothing happens
[17:36] <TheAncientGoat> however
[17:36] <TheAncientGoat> when I /remove/ the widget that I just added
[17:36] <TheAncientGoat> Whoops, here pops up that widget
[17:36] <Daugha|n> Hey, I added a new network manager, and lost the network. =)
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> How the heck does that work? Did someone mess up a bool switch?
[17:37] <Daugha|n> Thats strange.
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> But the best is
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> I cant /remove/ the widgets either
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> So.. GRRR
[17:37] <Daugha|n> Ummmm........kde4.4?
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> nope
[17:37] <TheAncientGoat> 4.3
[17:38] <ilumi> linux is a mystery
[17:38] <Daugha|n> I'm runing 4.3.2 with no widget issues.
[17:38] <TheAncientGoat> and alt f2 isn't working either :(
[17:38] <TheAncientGoat> ilumi: KDE is not quite linux
[17:39] <ilumi> well, you can say that about everything
[17:39] <TheAncientGoat> Although Gnome is barely any better... And all the other WM's also give problems
[17:39] <ilumi> except the kernel
[17:39] <TheAncientGoat> Yeah.. But I guess if you only use the terminal, it cuts down quite a few snags ;)
[17:39] <Daugha|n> lol
[17:41] <Daugha|n> How does kwlan work? I installed it, but got no docs with the install....??/
[17:41] <xjjk> Daugha|n: klwan is really old
[17:41] <xjjk> I'd not use it
[17:42] <pat|nG> xjjk if u don't mind can u help me?
[17:42] <Daugha|n> xjjk: Now they tellme!! =)
[17:42] <pat|nG> hehe
[17:42] <xjjk> pat|nG: let me scroll up...
[17:42] <xjjk> Daugha|n: does networkmanager not work?
[17:42] <Daugha|n> WHat would you advise as a wlan gui, xjjk ?
[17:42] <xjjk> Daugha|n: networkmanager, or wicd
[17:42] <Daugha|n> Where is it?
[17:43] <xjjk> Daugha|n: networkmanager is included default with ubuntu and is what is used out of the box
[17:43] <pat|nG> i got problem wid panel i accidentally delete it i add widget and the K icon put on centre i need it like at it is in default in the lower left portion of the screen inline wid the time
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Daugha|n, for eth0 it's , sudo dhclient eth0 , to switch to wlan0 you have to do, wlan0=dhcp , then sudo dhclient wlan0
[17:43] <xjjk> pat|nG: er, which version of KDE
[17:43] <Daugha|n> xjjk: I'm a newb, and lose things in kde. I dont know where to look to find networkmanager.
[17:43] <xjjk> pat|nG: I think that's really easy to use...
[17:43] <xjjk> Daugha|n: it should be there by default already...
[17:43] <Daugha|n> Umm....Where?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> bbl
[17:43] <xjjk> Daugha|n: it's not a program you can, it's a plsama applet
[17:43] <pat|nG> i'm noob sori
[17:43] <pat|nG> hehe
[17:44] <xjjk> pat|nG: if you click on the plasma icon thing/cashew/whatever they cal it now
[17:44] <Daugha|n> xjjk:  AH, that explains a bit.=)
[17:44] <xjjk> pat|nG: you should see a "more settings" button
[17:44] <xjjk> and in there you should be able to choose horizontal alignment
[17:45] <xjjk> er, not horizontal... but alignment along a screen edge
[17:45] <xjjk> Daugha|n: you should have an icon near the system tray area
[17:45] <Daugha|n> Nope, tat disappeared when I installed kwlan.
[17:45] <xjjk> Daugha|n: remove kwlan...
[17:45] <Daugha|n> Thats why I said I couldnt find it.
[17:45] <xjjk> it's *really* old
[17:45] <Daugha|n> I already did.
[17:45] <xjjk> still gone?
[17:45] <Daugha|n> Yup.
[17:46] <xjjk> check if you have the package for it installed... I think it's called plasma-widget-networkmanager
[17:46] <Daugha|n> That was why I rwmoved kwlan the first time.
[17:46] <xjjk> or something to that effect
[17:47] <Daugha|n> xjjk: Thanks. It was uninstalled, instaling now.
[17:47] <xjjk> Daugha|n: I personally think NetworkManager is a complete POS, but they have good intentions and I'm sure it'll work someday
[17:48] <xjjk> Daugha|n: most people who get pissed with NetworkManager but still want a GUI go with wicd
[17:48] <Daugha|n> Well, I'm a linux newb coming from xp.....
[17:48] <Daugha|n> WHIle cli doesnt scare me, I dont know enough to really use it well, so I still need my gui.
[17:49] <xjjk> Daugha|n: no one does wireless networking with the CLI... but there are various daemons that handle things for you
[17:50] <xjjk> that you control by editing text files
[17:50] <xjjk> classic UNIX paradigm
[17:50] <Daugha|n> UNIX was 30 years ago for me. :P
[17:50] <xjjk> some ideas were good ideas
[17:50] <xjjk> like keeping settings in simple text files
[17:50]  * Daugha|n chuckles.
[17:51] <xjjk> and exposing various operations as files in general
[17:51] <xjjk> rather than magic mumbo jumbo
[17:51] <Daugha|n> I agree, but, after the lanboot exerience, I also know how slammed this channel would be if linux was pure cli/text.
[17:51] <xjjk> Daugha|n: I'm honestly not sure about that
[17:52] <xjjk> with CLI/text there's some transparency into how things work
[17:52] <xjjk> so you have a chance to fix things by yourself
[17:52] <xjjk> you get tangible errors
[17:52] <xjjk> that you can google
[17:52] <Daugha|n> It tok me three days to get lanboot set up on this system. MOst of that wa swaiting for someone who knew more about what I was looking at than I did, so they could poiunt out my mistake.=)
[17:53] <Daugha|n> I used a specific Ip, where I needed the subnet mask.
[17:53] <Captain_Haddock> What is Kubuntu's partition manager?
[17:53] <Captain_Haddock> or KDE's rather
[17:53] <xjjk> Captain_Haddock: it's in systemsettings
[17:54] <Daugha|n> If you still have gnome, you can use gparted.
[17:54] <xjjk> Captain_Haddock: the binary is called partitionmanager
[17:54] <Captain_Haddock> xjjk: what's it called? don't see it.
[17:54] <Captain_Haddock> looking
[17:54] <xjjk> Captain_Haddock: it's called partition manager
[17:55] <xjjk> you can open up a terminal or use krunner and just run "partitionmanager" directly
[17:55] <Captain_Haddock> installing now
[17:55] <Captain_Haddock> thanks
[17:55] <Daugha|n> All this started because I'm trying to get a second monitor working. =)
[17:56] <phoenix_> can anyone help me
[17:56] <phoenix_> problem after update
[17:57] <ilumi> i dont think anyone in their right mind would want to use cli alone
[17:57]  * Daugha|n chuckles...
[17:57] <Daugha|n> I remember the days....
[17:57] <Daugha|n> Its kinda fun, when you are used to it.=)
[17:57] <phoenix_> can anyone help me with kubuntu
[17:58] <ilumi> nah, it's the thing of the past
[17:58] <Captain_Haddock> phoenix_: nobody can until you tell us what the problem is.
[17:58] <Daugha|n> ilumi: SO, why ya still have one??=)
[17:58] <Captain_Haddock> xjjk: works a treat. Thanks again.
[17:58] <xjjk> Captain_Haddock: cool
[17:58] <phoenix_> i updated my kubuntu, after that i was not able to start the x server
[17:58] <ilumi> Daugha|n: only because gui doesnt have the needed tools to fix stuff
[17:59] <Daugha|n> Must still be viable.
[17:59] <Captain_Haddock> phoenix_: updated from what to what?
[17:59] <phoenix_> the cumulative updates
[17:59] <Daugha|n> How do I kickstart networkmanager from cli, since we on the subject.
[18:00] <phoenix_> i think i updated the kernal
[18:00] <ilumi> Daugha|n: see windows has all the gui tools you needm, thats why dos console is almost forgotten
[18:00] <Daugha|n> kernal update requires a reboot, phoenix_
[18:00] <Daugha|n> ilumi: windows has all the gui tools MS wants you to have.. =)
[18:00] <Daugha|n> There is a *big* difference. =)
[18:00] <phoenix_> ya, i done that
[18:01] <Nataouze> hello
[18:01] <ilumi> Daugha|n: right, but there is nothing else avarage user needs
[18:01] <Captain_Haddock> phoenix_: what are you using now?
[18:01] <phoenix_> after that kubuntu lower version kernel
[18:01] <ilumi> Daugha|n: you can configure pretty much everything from gui
[18:01] <phoenix_> i fixed the problem in this version
[18:01] <ilumi> Daugha|n: and it works
[18:02] <phoenix_> but when i loggin in the latest version i get the error and not able to start the xserver
[18:02] <D-coy> hi all o/
[18:02] <Daugha|n> ilumi: Ok, so I'm noty an average user. Might explain why I'm running linux now. :P
[18:02] <phoenix_> can i send you the error log
[18:02] <Daugha|n> phoenix_: pastebin it, better idea.
[18:02] <Nataouze> I upgraded to KDE 4.4, and now some shortcuts are borken, such as ALT+F2 for the launcher or F12 for yakuake
[18:02] <phoenix_> ok
[18:03] <Daugha|n> ilumi: How do I start networkmanager from cli?
[18:03] <ilumi> Daugha|n: yeah, but linux maybe has like 40% of what you need in gui, thats why you have to work with console alot
[18:04] <Daugha|n> ilumi: windows has about the same, it just doesnt give you a terminal interface to fix the rest of the issues. Thats why there are so many third-party apps to *fix* it. =)
[18:04] <phoenix_> X.Org X Server 1.6.4
[18:04] <phoenix_> Release Date: 2009-9-27
[18:04] <phoenix_> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[18:04] <phoenix_> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-23-server i686 Ubuntu
[18:04] <phoenix_> Current Operating System: Linux matrix 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686
[18:04] <FloodBotK1> phoenix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <phoenix_> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic root=UUID=95225b18-74c0-4d4b-b422-e0911ea62e6f ro quiet splash
[18:05] <Daugha|n> He missed my comment about pastebin, I see.
[18:05] <Captain_Haddock> he just saw the paste bit.
[18:05] <Captain_Haddock> Daugha|n: I think networkmanager in KDE 4 is a plasma applet
[18:06] <Captain_Haddock> plasmoid perhaps
[18:06] <ilumi> Daugha|n: well, what are you reffering to, thre is not much you need to fix in windows if anything, (not talking about security, spying, etc)
[18:06]  * Captain_Haddock uses wicd instead
[18:06] <Daugha|n> ilumi: Ok, *not* counting e=security, there is regular maintenance on your registry files for one...
[18:06] <Captain_Haddock> oh win v. linux
[18:06]  * Captain_Haddock backs away
[18:07] <Daugha|n> Captain_Haddock: I'm a newb. :P
[18:07] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[18:07] <Daugha|n> Aqnd, for amusement value, *I'm* supporting cli.=)
[18:07] <Captain_Haddock> Daugha|n: so, what's the problem?
[18:07] <ilumi> Daugha|n: average users dont need that
[18:07] <Daugha|n> Oh, Captain_Haddock I know its a plsma thing, I just dont know how to make it work.
[18:08] <ilumi> Daugha|n: thats only for geeks
[18:08] <Daugha|n> ilumi: As I said, I'm not an average user.
[18:08] <Captain_Haddock> Daugha|n: what doesn't work?
[18:08] <ilumi> Daugha|n: and u can manually edit it if you need to
[18:08] <Daugha|n> ANd I'm a nerd, dammit, not a geek.
[18:08] <Captain_Haddock> you're a NEET, just admit it :P
[18:08] <Daugha|n> lol
[18:09] <Daugha|n> Captain_Haddock: I had to reinstall networkmaager after a kwlan failure. =)
[18:09] <Captain_Haddock> a lowlan failure?
[18:09] <Captain_Haddock> oh
[18:09] <Daugha|n> I think I just found that kernel update phoenix_  was talking about.
[18:09] <Captain_Haddock> kwlan?
[18:09] <Daugha|n> kwlan.
[18:10]  * jussi01  reminds people this is a support channel and general discussion should be held in #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <Daugha|n> Crusing synaptics trying to find whatever package I need to allow multiple monitors.
[18:10]  * Captain_Haddock isn't familiar with kwlan
[18:10] <Daugha|n> Didnt realize kwlan was an antique so I included it in the install list.
[18:11] <Captain_Haddock> but IMO, if the plasmoid is not working for you, use wicd
[18:11] <Captain_Haddock> sudo apt-get install wicd
[18:11] <Captain_Haddock> (and remove kwlan)
[18:11] <Daugha|n> plasmoid wasnt wrking because it was uninstalled. :P
[18:11] <Daugha|n> DId tat a while ago. =)
[18:11] <jussi01> Daugha|n: which gfx card?
[18:11] <Daugha|n> jussi01: This is alaptop.
[18:12] <jussi01> Daugha|n: again, whcih grafics card?
[18:12] <Daugha|n> Radeon X1200 series, if I re,e,ber right.
[18:12] <Daugha|n> remember, eve.
[18:12] <daskreech> hi pat|nG
[18:12] <jussi01> right, have you installed the ati driver for it?
[18:13] <jussi01> Daugha|n: under system -> hardware drivers
[18:13] <Daugha|n> Karmic, no need for another driver for it.
[18:13] <jussi01> ahh, ok
[18:13] <daskreech> ilumi: I use CLI Alone
[18:13]  * jussi01 never remembers which ones you need the blob for
[18:13] <daskreech> it works for everything but managing images :(
[18:13] <jussi01> Daugha|n: alt+f2 -> krandr
[18:14] <Daugha|n> jussi01: Under system settings/display  It saysmy system is not set up for multiple monitors, even though I have a 22 plugged in and mirroring when it says that
[18:14] <jussi01> Daugha|n: although not sure how well that works.
[18:14] <phoenix_> the kernel version in with i get the error is 2.6.31-17
[18:14] <phoenix_> ya
[18:14] <phoenix_> i found a tip in a webpage and i uninstalled the nvidia drivers
[18:14] <phoenix_> after that when i logged into the latest kernel version , my system hangs with screen blank and contineous beep
[18:14] <phoenix_> then i logged into the kernel version and reinstalled the nvidia drivers and now it works fine
[18:14] <phoenix_> but when i loggin to the latest version i am not able to start the x server
[18:14] <jussi01> !xrandr
[18:14] <Daugha|n> jussi01: So far, it doesnt. =) I need to be able to display seperate workspaces on each monitor.
[18:15] <daskreech> Nataouze: got help?
[18:15] <Daugha|n> Whats 'X'?
[18:15] <jussi01> !x
[18:15] <jussi01> :D
[18:15] <jussi01> sorry for the multiple factoids, got lazy
[18:15] <jussi01> anyway, off to the shop now
[18:15] <Nataouze> daskreech: I went into the global shortcuts panel into the KDE config, and now it works again, but I didn't restard KDE yet
[18:15] <phoenix_> i found somewhere in a webpage that whenever we update the kernel, we have to reinstall the nvidia driver. is that true
[18:16] <daskreech> Nataouze: Ok
[18:16] <Daugha|n> factoids are fine.
[18:16] <hoban> hello all. I'm an arch user (kdemod) and have now got an itch to try kubuntu. Is there a way to get a minimal kde install like there is with kdemod or must I install all of kubuntu desktop in order to expect things to work under kubuntu?
[18:17] <Daugha|n> Ill get to the hdmi output later... :P
[18:17] <Daugha|n> brb, gonna run this reboot.
[18:17] <phoenix_> help
[18:18] <daskreech> hoban: what would you consider minimal KDE ?
[18:19] <hoban> daskreech: just the  bare minimum functional desktop. no add-on apps. I'd choose which apps to install myself. So that would required plasma/dolphin/phonon/etc. but *not* require things like games/amarok/etc.
[18:21] <genii> !info kde-minimal
[18:21] <hoban> genii, awesome! thanks
[18:21] <genii> hoban: np
[18:21] <hoban> is there a particular ppa I should use to get the latest kde on karmic?
[18:22] <phoenix_> dont do that
[18:22] <Daughain> Ok, that did some strange things...
[18:22] <hoban> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta I guess
[18:23] <hoban> phoenix_, who were you talking to?
[18:23] <daskreech> hoban: apt-get install plasma-desktop
[18:23] <phoenix_> hoban
[18:23] <hoban> daskreech, keep in mind that I'm currently running ubuntu
[18:23] <daskreech> or kde-minimal :)
[18:23] <hoban> so my repos point to the ubuntu repos, not the kubuntu ones
[18:24] <daskreech> hoban: They are the same repos
[18:24] <hoban> ok.
[18:24] <hoban> is there any particular reason not so use the kubuntu-ppa/beta?
[18:25] <daskreech> We don't discriminate much :)
[18:25] <phoenix_> if you have important files. dont use it
[18:26] <daskreech> hoban: You want the last shipped version of KDE that Kubuntu shipped with
[18:26] <hoban> haha, it'll eat my hamster eh?
[18:26] <daskreech> hoban: the main repos have what shipped with 9.10 plus security updates
[18:26] <phoenix_> i am here because the same reason
[18:26] <daskreech> hoban: backports has the lastest stable version
[18:27] <daskreech> hoban: beta ppa has the lastest version (the RC1 currently)
[18:27] <hoban> so, if I safely want the latest, I should use backports
[18:27] <daskreech> the latest KDe 4.3 yes
[18:28] <hoban> ok, thanks guys for the tips
[18:28] <phoenix_> help
[18:29] <phoenix_> not able to start the xserver in the kernel 2.6.31-17 in kubuntu
[18:30] <daskreech> phoenix_: What error?
[18:30] <phoenix_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/360796/
[18:33] <phoenix_> darkreech are you there
[18:35] <Captain_Haddock> phoenix_: probably has something to do with Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
[18:36] <phoenix_> its working fine in the lower kernel version 2.6.31-16
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> then use the lower kernel and wait for another update.
[18:39] <phoenix_> this is my xorg.conf
[18:39] <phoenix_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/360814/
[18:40] <phoenix_> i have rebuild the nvidia x configuartor
[18:40] <phoenix_> i have rebuild the xorg.cong using nvidia x configuartor
[18:41] <bushh> surabaya
[18:41] <daskreech> phoenix_: yes
[18:42] <daskreech> phoenix_: you have closed drivers?
[18:42] <phoenix_> can you help
[18:42] <phoenix_> what should i do
[18:43] <daskreech> Run sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:43] <phoenix_> done that
[18:43] <daskreech> Should rebuild the Driver
[18:46] <phoenix_> phoenix@matrix:/etc/X11$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:46] <phoenix_> Reading package lists... Done
[18:46] <phoenix_> Building dependency tree
[18:46] <phoenix_> Reading state information... Done
[18:46] <phoenix_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:46] <FloodBotK1> phoenix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:46] <Daugha|n> Didnt we go through this a little while ago?
[18:46] <phoenix_> sorry
[18:47] <Daugha|n> More for you, mate. You end up gagged if the bot feels you are spamming.
[18:48] <phoenix_> oh
[18:48] <phoenix_> now i know
[18:48] <Daugha|n> Hmmmm.....If I use gpart after running badblocks, the reformat will ignore all the banned blocks, right?
[18:49] <Daugha|n> phoenix_: 4 lines to warning, and I beleive 6 till gagged.
[18:49] <phoenix_> oh
[18:49] <taga101> Morning all
[18:49] <phoenix_> i got the rules
[18:49] <Daugha|n> Heya, taga101
[18:49] <phoenix_> morning
[18:50] <Daugha|n> GUess we shall find out.
[18:51] <phoenix_> everytime i update my kubuntu, i am not able to start the x server
[18:51] <phoenix_> usually i reinstall, but now i want to know why its happening, i think its because of the nvidia drivers
[18:52] <Daugha|n> I'mma newb too. =)
[18:52] <phoenix_> oh, linux are you using
[18:52] <Daugha|n> Get this external formatted, and then back to trying to get my monitors working.
[18:52] <gorgonizer> phoenix_: do you install the nividia drivers from their website, or via the repositories?
[18:53] <phoenix_> via repositories
[18:53] <Daugha|n> ubuntu with kde.
[18:53] <phoenix_> that kubuntu right?
[18:53] <Daugha|n> No. I still have full gnome.
[18:53] <xrandr_laptop> blech. gnome
[18:54] <xrandr_laptop> gnome is not as visually impressive as KDE
[18:54] <Daugha|n> No, but when kde taes dump, I can fix it. :P
[18:54] <phoenix_> do you get humbnail preview for media files in kde
[18:55] <xrandr_laptop> kde doesn't crash! not by itself anyway :)
[18:55] <Daugha|n> xrandr_laptop: No, only when you install parts of it. :P
[18:55] <taga101> its the operator not the machine LoL
[18:56] <Daugha|n> Its the apps in the repos, on some occasions.:P
[18:56] <xrandr_laptop> KDE is actually quite stable
[18:56] <xrandr_laptop> im just figuring some stuff out in it. I haven't used KDE in many moons
[18:56] <xrandr_laptop> such as, assigning shortcut keys, using compiz instead of kwin, etc.
[18:57] <Daugha|n> Its been about 30 years since I dealt with unix, and thats the last time I saw a functional cli.
[18:57] <phoenix_> i think i found the solution can you verify this and tell me
[18:57] <phoenix_> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/13/kernel-update-affects-some-nvidia-users-fix-included/
[18:57] <Daugha|n> I tried compiz, I tink I prefer kwin
[18:58] <daskreech> phoenix_: sudo depmod -ae should rebuild the drivers as well
[18:58] <phoenix_> oh, thats good
[18:59] <phoenix_> so i should rebuild the drivers first right?
[18:59] <daskreech> First?
[18:59] <daskreech> before what?
[18:59] <dhaumann> since the amarok upgrade to 2.2.2 on kubuntu I have no sound anymore.
[18:59] <daskreech> tha's the only problem you have right now
[18:59] <dhaumann> is that a known issue? maybe someone knows a workaound? all other apps play sound
[18:59] <Daugha|n> OK, how do I reformat a disk and get it to ignore bad sectors?
[19:00] <phoenix_> before using this command  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[19:00] <daskreech> Daugha|n: tried badblocks ?
[19:00] <Daugha|n> daskreech: Ran it for many hours....Now what?
[19:00] <daskreech> phoenix_: both should kick off the rebuild
[19:00] <daskreech> Daugha|n: should have marked the bad sectors as bad so a reformat will ignore them
[19:01] <phoenix_> oh ok, i will try that now, thanks a lot everyone
[19:01] <Daugha|n> daskreech: Used gpart to reformat as ext4, still showing as 232GiB and failing per disk utility.
[19:02] <Daugha|n> Or did I reformat the wrong way?
[19:03]  * daskreech shrugs :)
[19:03] <Daugha|n> lol
[19:03] <Daugha|n> That helps... =)
[19:04] <Daugha|n> OK, its time for bed, and Ill deal with this when the brian works again.
[19:07] <xrandr_laptop> here's a question regarding theme packages. When you install a theme package, can you get rid of the original tar.gz file, or does KDE use the original file instead of making a copy of it?
[19:07] <phoenix_> the problem is solved
[19:07] <phoenix_> now i am able to start the x server in the latest kernel
[19:09] <daskreech> phoenix_: It's just your drivers. They need to be rebuilt for every new kernel. The upgrade should do it automatically
[19:10] <daskreech> I guess for some reason on your computer it fails
[19:10] <daskreech> xrandr_laptop: It copies it
[19:10] <phoenix_> ya that what they have said. its happens only in nvidia driver version 9X
[19:10] <xrandr_laptop> thanks
[19:11] <daskreech> phoenix_: So just run that command after you upgrade a kernel and then you should be fine
[19:11] <phoenix_> ya learned that now
[19:12] <phoenix_> what is the alternate for yahoo messenger that you are using
[19:12] <phoenix_> i tried piden and gyache
[19:12] <Daugha|n> I llike pidgin.
[19:13] <daskreech> Pidgin is simple but doesn't have the extras like Webcam and picture sharing
[19:13] <simion314> pidgin is the best, kopete misses some features and gyache hangs on my pc
[19:13] <daskreech> Gyache does but is ugly as sin and twice as loud
[19:14] <daskreech> I'm seriously thinking about forking it and doing a Qt version
[19:14] <Daugha|n> lol
[19:14] <simion314> thats the problem, every IM uses theyr own libs, and reinvent the wheeel
[19:14] <phoenix_> what you have said is right, i am trying to use gyachi to use that voice chat feature
[19:15] <phoenix_> but the font is very bad
[19:16] <simion314> daskreech: maybe try to contribute to kopete
[19:16] <daskreech> simion314: I want to do both
[19:16] <daskreech> have a library that kopete can use but the interface and concept of Kopete doesn't allow things like Picture sharing
[19:16] <simion31422> daskreech: i tried but is so hard to debug c++/Qt apps, no nice graphics
[19:17] <daskreech> And I would say webcam and Picture sharing are the biggest uses of Yahoo
[19:17] <daskreech> I have at least three people who keep windows around just to use Picture sharing on Yahoo
[19:17] <daskreech> simion31422: Hmm ?
[19:18] <simion31422> i ment no nice GUI for debugging
[19:18] <phoenix_> i like kopete a lot, expecting someone to improve it
[19:18] <daskreech> simion314yache: have you tried qt designer ?
[19:18] <daskreech> phoenix_: You can help :)
[19:18] <simion314yache> phoenix_: no many people working on yahoo protocol in kopete, yahoo sucks ,unfortunetly all the people in my country uses it
[19:18] <phoenix_> i can a visual basic programmer not c
[19:20] <phoenix_> but trying by best to program in linux, one time installed the qt library and the KDevelop. didnt succeed
[19:20] <xrandr_laptop> how do you change the compiz settings?
[19:20] <simion314> daskreech: qt designer does only the interfaces, qtcreator is a nice IDE for Qt development
[19:21] <simion314> phoenix_: install the Qt SDK and Xorg headers and you are ready to go
[19:22] <phoenix_> what is the best ide
[19:22] <markus> I like kopete a lot. The only IM I know that can iclude skype. The only thing I miss is working file transfers on some protocols. Hope that will be implemented. Waiting for that since years.
[19:23] <simion314> qtcreator is good
[19:23] <markus> phoenix: this is like asking "whats the best beer"? 10 people 10 different opinions
[19:23] <daskreech> simion314: Sorry yes qtcreator
[19:24] <phoenix_> ok
[19:24] <daskreech> xrandr_laptop: install the app for compiz settings I forget the name now
[19:24] <daskreech> phoenix_: The one you can work with
[19:25] <daskreech> markus: Which protocols?
[19:25] <simion314> ccsm compiz config settings manager
[19:25] <daskreech> that's it
[19:26] <phoenix_> i am trying to download the qt sdk. what does this mean "Qt: Framework Only"
[19:26] <simion314> phoenix_: get the SDK  that has the qtcreator inside
[19:27] <daskreech> phoenix_: It's just the base Qt things you need to get started
[19:27] <phoenix_> is this right" Qt SDK for Open Source C++ development on Linux/X11 32-bit"
[19:28] <phoenix_> the one thing that kopete is lagging in case of yahoo is the room list feature
[19:28] <daskreech> phoenix_: You can jump into #kopete and talk there :)
[19:29] <phoenix_> ya
[19:29] <ibou> hi
[19:29] <ibou> i'm looking for a good video converter for kde
[19:29] <ibou> any idea ?
[19:31] <simion314> ibou: no ideea for GUI app,ffmpeg is the app that knows to convert video formats
[19:31] <daskreech> ffmpeg ?
[19:31] <simion314> it must be some Qt front ends but i do not know
[19:32] <ibou> ok
[19:32] <ibou> thx
[19:32] <ibou> !video
[19:32] <simion314> daskreech: yes, ffmpeg
[19:32] <ibou> !converter
[19:34] <Windopain> how can i enable compositioning in kde?
[19:37] <daskreech> Windopain: alt+F3 -> Configure Window behaviour
[19:43] <Windopain> daskreech: thanks
[19:46] <daskreech> Windopain: Sure
[19:56] <BlessJah> could someone pastebin /usr/share/xsessions/ from kubuntu9.04?
[19:56] <BlessJah> (file is named kde.desktop kde4.desktop or similar)
[19:58] <BlessJah> i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop from 9.04, could someone pastebin it somewhere?
[20:01] <[Relic]> Does the current gwenview, have a text directory list (like the old version did) for images or is it stuck with thumbnails?  If it is stuck with all thumbnails is there an alternative that properly does text directory lists like gwenview used too?
[20:06] <Windopain> failed to activate desktop effects using the given config.  check x.  you may consider changing advanced, especially compositioning... only options i have in advanced are shading
[20:13] <josh__> plasma work space just crashed and the dedbug porgram does not have the right info
[20:14] <hoban> hello all. What do you all use to auto-launch (and unlock?) ssh/gpg/kerberos keys when you log in to kde? it "just works" with gnome for me
[20:17] <WaltzingAlong> josh__: ok
[20:17] <josh__> it keeps crashing
[20:23] <daskreech> WaltzingAlong: Broke?
[20:23] <daskreech> josh__: plasma keeps crashing?
[20:24] <daskreech> hoban: kwallet I would guess
[20:25] <hoban> daskreech, I'm referring to something that automatically starts {ssh,gpg}-agent
[20:25] <rafytafy> hi, i have a question..i would like to try the 2.6.33 kernel on my karmic 64bit due to daily lockups, i want to add this to my repo...  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  how should I add it
[20:26] <hoban> in gnome, both are started automatically and if your password for either matches your gdm login password, your keys are also unlocked and loaded at login
[20:26] <josh__> yeah and other stuff too and i dont know how to find the debug  filles to install
[20:34] <bbeck> I'm running KDE 4.4 RC, and the printer settings aren't working, I was wondering if anyone was having the same problem?
[20:43] <daskreech> hoban: kwallet can do the same if you want it explicit you can run ssh-agent in autostart
[20:43] <daskreech> !autostart
[20:43] <daskreech> bbeck: More specific?
[20:44] <hoban> daskreech, thanks, I'll look into that
[20:49] <shiko> Всем привет !!!
[20:50] <Tm_T> !ru | shiko
[20:55] <Screamo_Smurf> anybody free to help me?
[20:56] <genii> Screamo_Smurf: Just ask your question of the channel generally and see if someone takes up an answer
[20:56] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[20:56] <NSsmiles> hi guys
[20:56] <Screamo_Smurf> im trying to get exaile to work, but it keeps telling me it cant decode because the decoder isnt installed
[20:57] <NSsmiles> is there help with getting opera on kubuntu?
[20:57] <Screamo_Smurf> NSsmiles i just did that 2 hours ago
[20:57] <NSsmiles> i looked it up no luci
[20:57] <NSsmiles> luck
[20:57] <Screamo_Smurf> what are you having problems with?
[20:58] <NSsmiles> i thought it was installed but i can't find it anywhere
[20:58] <Screamo_Smurf> wich version did you install?
[20:58] <NSsmiles> so i need to try again
[20:59] <NSsmiles> 10 i think
[20:59] <Screamo_Smurf> for wich version of ubuntu
[20:59] <Screamo_Smurf> *kubuntu
[20:59] <NSsmiles> 9.10
[20:59] <Screamo_Smurf> nvm go back on that
[20:59] <Screamo_Smurf> open konsole
[20:59] <NSsmiles> ok
[21:00] <Screamo_Smurf> hold on a sec
[21:00] <NSsmiles> ok
[21:00] <inteliwasp> does anyone know where the "nvidia-settings" saves it's settings at?
[21:00] <Screamo_Smurf> simply type opera in konsole
[21:00] <Screamo_Smurf> it will open if its installed
[21:01] <NSsmiles> command not found
[21:01] <Screamo_Smurf> then its not installed
[21:01] <Screamo_Smurf> hold on a sec ill give you a link
[21:01] <NSsmiles> yeah i need to try again
[21:01] <NSsmiles> ok
[21:01] <NSsmiles> thanks
[21:02] <Screamo_Smurf> http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=32614&location=121&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[21:02] <Screamo_Smurf> try that
[21:02] <NSsmiles> great thanks
[21:04] <Screamo_Smurf> can anyone help me with exaile?
[21:04] <daskreech> inteliwasp: likely in some .folder in your ~
[21:04] <daskreech> Screamo_Smurf: What is it doing?
[21:05] <Screamo_Smurf> wont play anything
[21:05] <Screamo_Smurf> basicly says theres no decoder
[21:05] <daskreech> as in won't play at all or play with no sound?
[21:05] <daskreech> Ah ok
[21:05] <Screamo_Smurf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8707809#post8707809
[21:05] <Screamo_Smurf> ^^ thats exaclty what it does
[21:05] <daskreech> Screamo_Smurf: you have installed the codecs already?
[21:05] <Screamo_Smurf> restricted extras?
[21:06] <Screamo_Smurf> if so yes
[21:06] <Screamo_Smurf> amarok will play them
[21:06] <Screamo_Smurf> but not exaile or audacous
[21:09] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[21:10] <daskreech> Screamo_Smurf: You need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:10] <daskreech> or in short
[21:10] <daskreech> !mp3
[21:10] <Screamo_Smurf> you mean kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:11] <Screamo_Smurf> daskreech ive already install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:12] <daskreech> Screamo_Smurf: Ubuntu-restricted extras
[21:12] <Screamo_Smurf> ok
[21:12] <daskreech> or just the gstreamer-bad package
[21:27] <Screamo_Smurf> oh wow
[21:28] <Screamo_Smurf> kubuntus virtual kboard is alot better then ubuntus
[21:28] <txes> hi! anybody know what was changed in updates list night.. something connected with Xserver... because today after restart I get black screen when KDM should show up (9.10 with KDE 4.4 RC1, fglrx driver from ATI site)
[21:29] <Peace-> txes: the driver...
[21:29] <Peace-> txes: bad driver= bad performance
[21:30] <[Relic]> Does the current gwenview, have a text directory list (like the old version did) for images or is it stuck with thumbnails?  If it is stuck with all thumbnails is there an alternative that properly does text directory lists like gwenview used too?
[21:31] <txes> Peace-: but the driver was not changed... because I installed it from the bin file from ati site... something other packed messed it up... I tried to reinstall fglrx driver but still same black screen...
[21:31] <daskreech> [Relic]: What do you mean?
[21:32] <Peace-> [Relic]: maybe on  /tmp
[21:32] <Peace-> this sick k3b doens't want get cddb infomations ...
[21:32] <Peace-> -.-''
[21:33] <Peace-> txes: dunno about ati ... but when you upgrade you should be carefull if you have ati nvdia...
[21:34] <daskreech> [Relic]: What text details?
[21:38] <xrandr_laptop> when is the next release of kubuntu scheduled for?
[21:39] <daskreech> april
[21:40] <Dekans> xrandr_laptop: april
[21:40] <Dekans> it's always april and october
[21:40] <xrandr_laptop> cool
[21:40] <daskreech> same day
[21:40] <Dekans> xrandr_laptop: Kubuntu 10.04 => April 2010
[21:41] <Dekans> Kubuntu 9.10 has been released on October 2009
[21:41] <Dekans> it's in the release number ;)
[21:41] <Dekans> Is Firefox 3.6 (stable not nightly) available in a Ubuntu repo ?
[21:43] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[21:45] <daskreech> Yes
[21:45] <daskreech> Screamo_Smurf: issues?
[21:46] <Screamo_Smurf> i just had to regiter is all
[21:46] <Screamo_Smurf> with a vkb
[21:46] <daskreech> hm ok
[22:00] <daskreech> [Relic]: still there?
[22:07] <jschall> why does networkmanager in (k)ubuntu ALWAYS revert to "auto eth0" (DHCP)? i want to use a static ip, and i want it to stick, and this is BS. why should end users have to edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:10] <daskreech> jschall: Shouldn't have to which networkmanager version are you using?
[22:11] <jschall> 0.8~a~git.20091013t193206.679d548-0ubuntu1
[22:11] <jschall> default with karmic
[22:11] <Fleck> any ideas why i'm getting 100% CPU usage while moving data from one HDD to another?
[22:12] <Fleck> SATA hdds
[22:12] <Fleck> 1TB and 1.5TB, ext4
[22:13] <daskreech> YOu don't have DMA turned on?
[22:13] <jschall> daskreech: i added a network connection in networkmanager, set it up as static and checked "connect automatically"
[22:13] <Fleck> daskreech DMA is ON
[22:14] <daskreech> and apply and it flicked back to DHCP?
[22:14] <jschall> you have really really fast hdds and a really really slow cpu?
[22:14] <jschall> no it works
[22:14] <Fleck> jschall well AMD 5200+ is really slow? :)
[22:14] <jschall> daskreech: but it doesn't stick if i reboot the system
[22:14] <daskreech> ah I see
[22:14] <jschall> Fleck: ... yeah, but not as slow as it could be
[22:15] <jschall> Fleck: hmm. i don't have 2 hdds in my system so i can't try it and see what it does on mine
[22:17] <jschall> i hate networkmanager
[22:17] <jschall> haaaaaate
[22:17] <jschall> that's hate with SIX 'a's
[22:18] <Fleck> jschall btw try wicd :)
[22:18] <Fleck> really nice network manager ;)
[22:18] <Screamo_Smurf> it does suck
[22:18] <Screamo_Smurf> im tethering so i use wvdial
[22:22] <[Relic]> boingy boingy boingy
[22:23] <daskreech> hmm?
[22:46] <Windopain> anyone know how i can determine if 3d graphics drivers are installed?  ubuntu 9.10 kde nvidia 7950gt...
[22:52] <daskreech> Windopain: Turning on Effects in Kwin is a quick way
[22:53] <Windopain> daskreech: i guess my next querstion is how to install the unauthorized drivers in 9.10 then, since that's what i'm troubleshooting (effects not turning on)
[22:55] <ner0x> How can I make sure my computer gets the same IP address from my router everytime WITHOUT using a MAC filter.
[22:55] <Windopain> turn off dhcp?
[22:58] <ner0x> Windopain: How do you do that on kubuntu?
[22:58] <ner0x> I don't know much about networking but I can get myself around a linux computer just fine.
[22:59] <Windopain> ner0x: i don't know how to do much more than shutdown and restart.
[22:59] <daskreech> Windopain: run jockey-kde
[23:00] <daskreech> ner0x: either set the DHCP server to have a crazy death time for the lease or set your DHCP range and then give your computer a static IP address
[23:01] <Laeborg> Hey!
[23:01] <daskreech> Yes?
[23:02] <Laeborg> My Kubuntu 9.10, 64 bits, has crashed. When I startup, kde don't start
[23:02] <ner0x> daskreech: I believe the IP I'm requesting is out of range.
[23:02] <Laeborg> but I can login into the terminal, but no gui..
[23:06] <xrandr_laptop> Laeborg: any info in /var/log/messages  or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:10] <Laeborg> 'could not detext X server version', 'DRI initialization failed' and 'atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized'
[23:13] <daskreech> GPS has not been initialized?
[23:14] <daskreech> what did you do before the crash?
[23:14] <t0mu> hello!
[23:15] <Laeborg> system update
[23:15] <t0mu> please, How install mysql-workbench in kubuntu?
[23:16] <t0mu> I install dependecies with apt-get, but.. print this error:
[23:16] <t0mu> config.status: executing libtool commands
[23:16] <t0mu> configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-dynamic
[23:17] <t0mu> in ./configure =(
[23:20] <t0mu> anybody?
[23:31] <daskreech> t0mu: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:31] <daskreech> Thought that sounds like a package error