[00:00] i guess lucid will have 3.6 not 3.7 [00:00] like if there's a major update by mozilla PPA might get it and archive might not for weeks/months [00:00] but for now it definitly is ;) [00:02] asac: so, what should the PPA name be? [00:02] and where? [00:07] micahg: i think firefox-stable [00:07] fta didnt vote? [00:07] asac: under ~mozillateam? [00:08] micahg: created https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable [00:09] if it's manual, i don't mind where. but ~mozillateam has been a kitchen sink for a long time, bad idea. [00:09] so thats it ;) [00:09] asac: k [00:09] as soon as it hits lucid, I'll backport [00:09] fta: we have a new name, so the ppa can stay random crack ;) [00:10] * micahg will delete his own ff-stable PPA :) [00:10] asac: can we do thunderbird-stable as well? [00:12] micahg: lets first get firefox-stable flying [00:12] asac: k ;) [00:13] for tbird we first have to finish the package rename and the upload to lucid [00:13] asac: k, you doing that or should I try again? [00:20] micahg: give it a try again. i will hav eto do it over weekend if you fail ;) [00:22] ok, i'm off. 'night all [00:25] night fta [00:29] asac: k [00:30] if I don't finish by Sun morning I'll let you know asac [00:30] micahg: guess on sat nothing will happen, so let me know friday night :) [00:31] asac: I was going to do most of the work sat night :) [00:31] hmm [00:31] if i start before ill let you know [00:31] tonight I have to finish up this work project [00:31] so ok [00:31] k [00:32] * asac has to leave the party too ... early appointment tomorrow [00:50] asac: hmm don't know about gcc-uno === asac_ is now known as asac [03:33] hey asac. will there now be a 3.8/4.0 mercurial trunk? [04:36] anyone having this with latest chromium ? [04:36] Your profile could not be opened correctly. [04:36] Some features may be unavailable. Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents. [05:06] asac: you're not up, are you? [05:30] asac: nm [05:33] asac: the new diff is under my incoming dir on chinstrap [05:51] I've just been made aware of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel ; I see that we're going to drop support for packages using xulrunner. [05:52] RAOF: he's not around... [05:54] micahg: asac's the only one who'll be interested in that? [05:58] RAOF: interested? he'll be the only one to answer you about plans :) [06:03] Ah, ok. [06:03] I was just going to suggest that we might need to port gnome-shell to seed rather than gjs if mozilla libraries are going away. [06:04] RAOF: probably not a bad idea, but you can check with him, usually back around 9 or 10 UTC [07:58] hey, is there a firefox-3.6 package for karmic that replaces the default firefox? [08:00] the ppas seem to only install it as namoroka [08:01] not at this time [08:10] moin moin [08:12] It looks like firefox 3.6 in the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA recently started configuring itself with --disable-system-cairo, which makes subpixel fonts look poor. Where’s the right place to report this? [08:15] andersk: here [08:15] and upstrem [08:16] though i doubt that we will see a fix for this ;) [08:16] upstream wants us to use in-source cairo (like verything else) [08:16] Ew. [08:16] and the in-source cairo has problem to talk to the system cairo used gtk [08:16] ;) [08:16] i investigated once ... it was bad for in-source cairo. yes [08:17] andersk: please file a bug upstream though [08:17] its important to get filed [08:17] asac: Regarding the dropping of xulrunner to universe, has any thought been given to gnome-shell at this point? [08:18] Okay. Is there context I can link to that shows where upstream asked for in-source cairo? (which justifies this as an upstream bug) [08:18] andersk: no. file the bug without that comment [08:32] andersk: all bugs are upstream ;) ... no need for justification [08:33] you could confirm that ubuntu uses in-source cairo now ... so they dont start saying its our cairo [08:33] RAOF: gnome-shell needs to go somewhere else. in general we dont allow libmozjs consumers in main [08:34] as there are no ABI/API guarantees upstream [08:34] (for security updates that is) [08:34] afaik, it makes progress on that [08:34] i will check [08:34] once seb is online [08:38] Yeah, I checked the build log to verify that the ubuntu-mozilla-daily package is built with --disable-system-cairo. [08:38] and about:buildconfig [08:38] I submitted https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541319 [08:38] Mozilla bug 541319 in General "Poor subpixel font rendering compared to rest of system in FF3.6 on Ubuntu" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [08:40] please make sure that you are not hitting the following https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458612 [08:40] Mozilla bug 458612 in Graphics "(Ubuntu) system fontconfig settings override GNOME font rendering screen settings" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [08:41] I don’t think so, my /etc/fonts/conf.d/11-lcd-filter-lcddefault.conf assigns lcdfilter=lcddefault to all fonts systemwide. [08:42] And I use several non-GNOME applications that look fine (e.g. drscheme, gitk). Not to mention Firefox itself until today. [08:48] This was previously fixed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/164640 (with the fix being to start using system cairo). [08:48] Ubuntu bug 164640 in xulrunner-1.9 "Build Firefox 3 against a subpixel-patched cairo" [Medium,Fix released] [08:55] asac: gnome-shell could be ported to seed relatively painlessly I believe. [08:57] yawn o/ [08:57] RAOF: right. and i thought that was already ongoing (and also discussed upstream) [08:58] andersk: can you do me a favour and check whether chaning the subpixel rendering type in the gnome settings changes anything at all? [08:58] same for hinting style [08:58] does that make any difference if you change something there [08:59] andersk: did you upgrade dailies today? did that went smooth? [08:59] packaging wise [09:05] Hello [09:05] asac: so xulrunner won't be removed ? [09:07] TBD [09:07] i guess we wont be able to get rid of it completely [09:10] <[reed]> asac: cairo issues aren't gtk widget.... they go in Core :: Graphics [09:11] <[reed]> fyi for future :) [09:11] [reed]: early in the morning. i didnt even spot that entry ;) [09:11] i scrolled a few times up and down and knew it was wrong somewhat [09:11] asac: so, will it be sync'ed from Debian ? [09:12] asac: Debian have added a debhelper script in xulrunner [09:12] we have that too afaik [09:12] and for now we wont sync [09:13] maybe next cycle [09:13] depends on a few things [09:33] ok, thanks [09:38] hi, I get a little bug in firefox-3.6 installing from PPA http://pastebin.com/f45d7c4b0 [09:38] I use ubuntu 9.04 [09:52] let me check [09:52] White_Sloun: can you stay here for a few more hours? we have to wait for jdstrand for that [09:52] he is in US and will probably wake up a bit later [09:52] most likely we need to not do apparmore on jaunty [09:53] White_Sloun: those odd characters in the paste .. whast that? [09:53] this is bad encoding for words in russian ) [09:54] ah ;) [09:56] I will wait here for 2 hours, maybe more, for contact mail to segooon@gmail.com [09:56] thanks [10:38] i can't run firefox 3.6. Gtting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/360570/ [10:39] nmm [10:39] Greenery: dpkg -l firefox\* please [10:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/360575/ [10:41] hmm [10:41] Greenery: dpkg -L firefox please [10:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/360577/ [10:43] hmm [10:43] Greenery: run strace -f -eopen firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/out.log.txt [10:43] and after it failed: [10:43] post the out.log.txt [10:44] /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.1pre/firefox: 59: dirname: Permission denied feels odd [10:44] Greenery: do you have apparmor profile enabled? [10:44] i've never used apparmor [10:44] i can't run the command you've just given me [10:45] why? [10:45] o wait nvm [10:45] >.< [10:45] what happens? [10:45] ok [10:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/360580/ [10:47] Greenery: please post your dmesg output too [10:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/360582/ [10:59] Greenery: yes, your apparmor profile is enabled it seems [10:59] oh okay, how do i disable it? [11:00] or can firefox work with apparmor enabled? [11:00] its supposed to work, but seems its buggy after the package rework [11:01] Greenery: try to run aa-complain /usr/bin/firefox [11:01] check if you have /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.bin.firefox afterwards [11:01] jdstrand: ^^ [11:02] i think we need to work a bit on aa rules [11:02] ok it is available on that directory [11:03] doesnt help? [11:04] still can't open it [11:05] wait for jdstrand [11:05] he probably will be here in a bit [11:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor [11:05] Greenery: sudo aa-complain /path/to/bin [11:06] Put all profiles into complain mode [11:06] sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/* [11:06] so try sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.fireofx [11:06] fox [11:06] so try sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox [11:06] or try all ;) [11:06] Greenery: ^^ [11:07] check the help page above too [11:07] okay [11:07] jdstrand: we have /usr/bin/firefox now ... that runs /usr/lib/firefox-*/run-mozilla.sh ... which in turn runs /usr/lib/firefox-*/firefox-bin :) [11:08] maybe appending the -bin to the profile be enough? [11:08] i got it working with sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/* [11:08] e.g.g [11:08] Greenery: thanks! [11:08] guess that should be fixed before i upload 3.6 [11:08] at last ^^ [11:08] Greenery: can you wait a bit ... i want you to try something ;) [11:08] sure [11:09] backup /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox [11:09] then edit that file [11:09] and to the line: [11:09] /usr/lib/firefox-*/firefox ... [11:09] make [11:09] /usr/lib/firefox-*/firefox-bin [11:09] and see if that helps if you set everything in enforce mode again [11:13] do i edit this line: /usr/lib/firefox*/firefox{,*[^s][^h]} flags=(complain) [11:13] into the new one? [11:14] yes [11:14] asac: FF 3.7 WFM [11:14] FYI [11:15] we didnt change 3.7 ;) [11:15] coolio [11:15] if you need smallish tests, let em know [11:15] you will get your sufferage soon ;) [11:15] bit busy, but I can always spare some time for you [11:15] firefox 3.6 i am mostly concerned atm [11:15] so you are of the hook ;) [11:16] eh [11:16] oh before I forget [11:16] shoot [11:16] seems changing NM wifi from user profile to all users works again [11:16] BUGabundo_remote: in lucid? [11:17] before it would not connect [11:17] asac: yes [11:17] or dailies? [11:17] great [11:17] think so [11:17] you dont run dailies? [11:17] ok, firefox load fine with the edit you asked [11:17] network-manager: Installed: 0.8~rc2-0ubuntu2~nmt3 [11:17] Greenery: hmm. i am not 100% sure we need to reload the profile somewhat [11:17] Greenery: if you change back, does it stop working again? [11:17] *** 0.8~rc2-0ubuntu2~nmt3 0 [11:17] 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages [11:17] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [11:17] 0.8~rc2-0ubuntu1 0 [11:17] 500 http://neacm.fe.up.pt lucid/main Packages [11:18] BUGabundo_remote: ok. so you probably didnt try recently? [11:18] * asac assumes its not the last bit for rc2 that fixed it [11:18] BUGabundo_remote: if there is abug open about this, please post your findings and set to fix committed [11:19] asac: it works even if i changed it back [11:19] Greenery: right. thats why i think the profile thing wasnt reloaded [11:19] Greenery: did you run aa-enforce? [11:19] asac: no bug, from me at least [11:19] <[reed]> asac: can you remove 3.6 from https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/449744/ [11:19] Ubuntu bug 449744 in iceweasel "Firefox crashes when attempting to load Firebug 1.5 alphas" [Unknown,Fix released] [11:19] I tried as recently as last week [11:19] <[reed]> I can't figure out how to do it [11:19] <[reed]> or maybe I don't have the needed permissions [11:19] asac: no i didn't run that [11:19] let me check [11:19] didn't work. and yesterday it worked again [11:19] Greenery: you ened to ... atm you just complain [11:20] BUGabundo_remote: ok. when did you last try? [11:20] (and it didnt) [11:20] [reed]: thats fix released i guess? [11:20] asac: I'm not entirely sure, but I think last week [11:20] when I got a new router setup [11:20] you can set to invalid or fix released [11:20] and created a new WiFi and tried to set up All Users [11:21] asac: I used aa-enforce, loads fine [11:21] [reed]: i think micahg intentionall set those so we remember to close the bug on next upload ... [11:21] or wasnt that fixed for "3.5.8"? [11:21] <[reed]> asac: but it never affected 3.6 in the first place, and people are getting confused [11:21] ah 3.6 [11:21] sorry misread [11:21] ok [11:22] set to invalid [11:22] done [11:22] <[reed]> thanks [11:22] <[reed]> er [11:22] <[reed]> you set the wrong one [11:22] <[reed]> but now that I know what to do [11:22] <[reed]> I can fix! [11:22] ;) [11:22] [reed]: i fixed that i think [11:22] 3.6 -> invalid [11:22] 3.5 -> fix committed [11:23] <[reed]> cool [11:47] asac: strange request: [11:48] we got several ppl here at work, running debian and using ubuntumozilla PPAs [11:48] would you consider adding debian release branchs? [11:49] at least would allow software-properties-kde/gtk to work, and handle depencies [11:49] * BUGabundo_remote ducks [12:00] BUGabundo_remote: not sure what you want [12:00] folks should use ubuntu [12:00] ahaahahahahahaahah [12:01] *should* is not Freedom of choice :D [12:02] asac, trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/firefox-3.6pre/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package firefox-3.6-gnome-support 0:3.6~hg20100117r33523+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~karmic [12:03] didn't you say you fixed it? [12:03] fta2: i added the replaces [12:04] check if firefox has replaces on firefox-3.6-gnome-support [12:04] firefox-3.6-gnome-support [12:04] thats what i see [12:04] in firefox branch i have [12:05] $ apt-cache show firefox | grep Replace [12:05] Replaces: firefox-3.0, firefox-3.5, firefox-3.6 [12:07] fta2: [12:07] for my $copyright (sort keys %{$$data{$dir}{$license}}) { [12:07] my @values = values %{$$data{$dir}{$license}}; [12:07] if ($#values == 1) { [12:07] printf "Files: %s/*\n", $dir; [12:07] } else { [12:07] fta2: thats odd. i definitly committed it [12:07] let me double check [12:08] yes. all committed [12:08] sure you ran update ? [12:08] fta2: so about that snippet ... that values == 1 seems to not work [12:08] i still get { } around single files [12:08] in licensecheck.pl [12:13] $#values gives the number of values of that list minus 1 [12:14] so use 0 to test for only 1 item, and -1 for emptiness [12:16] heh [12:16] ok [12:16] * asac tries [12:17] hmm doesnt help [12:17] nevermind [12:17] lets fix that later ;) [12:18] fta2: shit [12:18] so we need src/chrome/third_party/wtl [12:18] ? [12:19] Files: src/chrome/third_party/wtl/include/{atlapp.h,atlcrack.h,atlctrls.h,atlctrlw.h,atlctrlx.h,atlddx.h,atldlgs.h,atlfind.h,atlframe.h,atlgdi.h,atlmisc.h,atlprint.h,atlres.h,atlresce.h,atlscrl.h,atlsplit.h,atltheme.h,atluser.h,atlwince.h,atlwinx.h} [12:19] Copyright: Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. This file is a part of the Windows Template Library. The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the Microsoft Permissive License (Ms-PL) which can be found in the file: [12:19] * asac hates that appearing ;) [12:22] asac: fta: if you have a moment: why do FF 3.6, 3.7 and Chromium all drop logins after restarting the browser on so many more sites then before ? [12:22] a coworker just notice that after the upgrade for FF 3.6 in Mac. [12:22] no clue [12:22] guess websites get more broken [12:22] :( [12:22] chromium is bad in general for me [12:22] for logins [12:22] firefox does the same [12:22] but firefox still works for the sites i am using [12:23] stuff like gmail [12:23] works [12:23] even with Remember Me [12:23] probably extension [12:25] no addons on his mac [12:30] BUGabundo_remote: file upstream bug. havent seen it [12:30] and dont have a mac [12:32] fta2: do you know whats up with wtl? [12:32] * asac almost dputted it ;) [12:35] asac: also happens to me in ubuntu [12:35] so I tought it was a new Policy from browser makers [12:36] BUGabundo_remote: check with [reed] then [12:36] (12:20:21 PM) i.ca: forteller: WTF? Has the Firefox 3.6 update yesterday + today deleted all my Firefox 3.6 beta/RC profiles!? :( !Ubuntu [19721095] [12:36] I guess they were "imported", right? [12:36] BUGabundo_remote: users will get asked in todays update [12:37] yesterday it kept using the ffox 3.5 profile [12:38] fta2: i will drop it. afaics its only incuded for win [12:39] <[reed]> BUGabundo_remote: you're talking about cookies? [12:40] <[reed]> Chromium and Firefox use a very similar cookie implementation [12:40] <[reed]> as in, I think Chromium just uses Firefox's impl [12:40] <[reed]> so, if you see issues, please file bugs [12:40] [reed]: I think so [12:40] <[reed]> Core :: Networking: Cookies [12:40] at least for site's I've seen it [12:40] like gmail, identica, etc [12:41] [reed]: what I'm seeing is sites that usually didn't logout before (early chromium/chromium 3, FF 3.5.x), now loose logins even if Remember Me box is selected [12:42] but haven't managed to put my finger on it yet, its one of those "I have this strange feeling this wasn't like this before" cases, and a coworker just mentioned the same, reforcing my beliefes [12:43] <[reed]> yeah [12:43] <[reed]> so, you should enable NSPR logging for cookies [12:43] <[reed]> and file a bug [12:43] how do I do that?! [12:46] <[reed]> one moment [12:47] <[reed]> hmm [12:47] <[reed]> file a bug, dwitte will tell you! [12:47] okay [12:54] [reed]: asac: fyi https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541356 [12:55] Mozilla bug 541356 in General "session lost after restart" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [12:57] BUGabundo_remote: NSPR_LOG_MODULES=all:5 [12:57] export [12:57] to get loads of verbose output [12:58] asac: where to ? [12:59] in the terminal before you start [12:59] export NSPR_LOG_MODULES=all:5 [12:59] firefox [12:59] ahh [12:59] browser already open [12:59] restarting [12:59] killall firefox [12:59] firefox-3.7 [13:00] yeah [13:00] that's crazy debug [13:00] teeing to a log [13:01] lunch === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [13:22] fta2: CHROMIUM_FLAGS=${CHROMIUM_USER_FLAGS:-"$CHROMIUM_FLAGS"} as bashism? [13:22] chromium-browser.sh should be bash then i guess [13:22] do you know? [13:28] asac, i don't think so [13:28] * asac wonders how to find out ;) [13:30] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/360651/ [13:31] so pitti says its not a bashism, but doesnt make sense ;) [13:32] asac, full example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/360653/ [13:33] asac, basically, i hate bash and bashisms [13:34] fta2: but is dash a proof? does it work in posh? [13:35] in ubuntu, /bin/sh is dash, so it works fine [13:35] sure [13:35] even if /bin/sh is bash, it's fine too [13:35] anyway, pitti agrees with you [13:35] thats good enough for me [13:37] fta2: ill remove "do something aobut amd64" from TODO [13:38] Greenery, asac: aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/* is way too heavy-handed. All the apparmor profiles are now in complain mode. Better to just do: sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 [13:38] jdstrand: i commited something to firefox-3.6.head ... can you check that [13:38] (for apparmor) [13:38] Greenery: please perform: sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/* ; sudo aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 [13:38] we have a new binary now -> firefox-bin [13:38] its run like firefox -> run-mozilla.sh -> firefox-bin [13:38] asac: I already made the dirname and pwd changes yesterday I think [13:39] hmm [13:39] so its a real issue? [13:39] ok [13:39] but the binary name is now wrong [13:39] so i think -bin is correct there [13:40] asac: r476 and r477 should have fixed those (timestamp: Thu 2010-01-21 07:32:53 -0600) [13:40] hmm [13:41] jdstrand: yeah. [13:41] asac: the profile is supposed to protect /usr/lib/@APPNAME@*/firefox{,*[^s][^h]} === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_work [13:41] jdstrand: i changed that to: [13:41] /usr/lib/@APPNAME@*/firefox-bin... [13:41] asac: we don't protect /usr/bin [13:41] right [13:41] but the binary doesnt exist in the all-static build ;) [13:41] ok [13:41] thats why he got busted [13:42] (I'm just working through the two distinct issues we are having) [13:42] like /usr/bin/firefox calls /usr/lib/APPDIR/run-mozilla.sh (to set envs) and calls /usr/lib/appdir/firefox-bin (the real binary) [13:42] right [13:42] asac: you changed the pathname already? [13:42] yes [13:42] just wanted to check with you if thats obviously wrong [13:42] because he couldnt really confirm that it worked [13:42] * jdstrand pulls the latest commits [13:42] jdstrand: you can check the firefox .deb in daily [13:42] k [13:43] that doesnt have the new profile yet though [13:43] apparmore file i mean [13:43] but i just added -bin [13:43] asac: so the daily has the updated path is what you are saying? [13:44] asac: It supports usr/local/bin/tls.py but not usr/local/bin/tls which is why I comment. [13:44] fta2: thats about the tlslite patch [13:45] * asac checks [13:45] jdstrand: right. [13:45] asac, eh? [13:45] asac: ok, I'll review it and make changes if needed. at first glance it seems fine [13:45] asac, why do you need tls? [13:46] it's needed only to run the testsuite (in chromium) [13:46] fta2: you have a patch [13:46] you can drop it, pitti rejected my system phython-tlslite package so i'm back to the in-source one [13:47] hmm ok [13:47] i fixed it fo rnow [13:47] e.g. added that path ;) [13:47] we can drop it if you are ok [13:47] * asac does that [13:47] jdstrand: asac: so do I need to perform the command? [13:48] Greenery: please perform the command I mentioned. right now you disabled too many apparmor protections. you only wanted to disabled firefox, but you disabled dhclient, cups, tcpdump, ... [13:49] Greenery: the command I gave will enable everything again, then complain for firefox [13:49] ok done [13:50]