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TakyojiAnyone have the stance on the recent continuing implementation of HTML5-based video players, but with H.264 as the format, and Firefox being the one denying to implement a H.264 codec?22:17
TakyojiMozilla*22:17
_diabloWait, really? I thought Apple was the one that was preventing that?22:18
_diabloDo you have a link?22:18
TakyojiApple and Google are the ones supposedly opposing the implementation of Ogg Theora22:19
TakyojiMozilla is opposing to implementing H.26422:19
Takyojihttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/bumps-ahead-as-vimeo-youtube-respond-to-html5-video-demand.ars22:20
_diabloohhh, what is that?22:20
* _diablo reads that22:20
TakyojiSo now it's Daily Motion and Vimeo with a HTML5-based viewer, next it'll hopefully be YouTube as well soon22:21
kaimerraYouTube has theirs in beta22:21
_diabloI'm already using Youtube's one22:21
_diabloyeah22:21
kaimerrahttp://www.youtube.com/html522:21
TakyojiI've seen it22:22
TakyojiThe reason why Firefox isn't "supported" is because Firefox doesn't have a H.264 implementation supposedly.22:22
TakyojiAhh; so they've changed it now then22:23
TakyojiThat used to just be a single demo page originally22:23
_diabloyup22:27
TakyojiAnd Google Chrome itself on Linux isn't working with the HTML5 player apparently. :P22:29
_diablotrue22:29
_diabloit sucks22:29
_diablosame with chromium actually22:29
TakyojiI have version 422:30
_diabloVersion    : 4.0.285.022:31
_diabloalright, I have a clear opinion now22:31
_diabloGo Mozilla!22:31
_diabloWhat is the point of a standard if you have to pay for it?22:32
_diabloIt will kill firefox.22:32
TakyojiIsn't Google supposedly buying out the owner of H.264 though?22:32
TakyojiOn2 Technologies22:32
_diabloMaybe, but that still means that it's proprietary.22:32
_diabloDo you really trust Google on this?22:32
TakyojiIf the open it up, then it wouldn't be proprietary anymore I believe.22:35
_diablo"if they open it up"22:35
Takyoji(along with the patents surrounding it)22:35
_diabloagreed. But I'd rather have assurances going in.22:35
_diabloWhich h.264 doesn't provide22:35
_diabloI don't know, I know I'm paranoid, but I really don't want web standards to burn open source22:38
TakyojiI know, I'd love it to be Ogg Theora as well22:41
_diabloIt has to be. Ogg has just been getting better and better too22:41
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_diablo_activeAh, nice. This should be able to ping me whenever anyone makes a message. This will make question answering much faster.23:15

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