[00:00] <cirodiazvelez> i cant change my display settings and everithing looks giant help please
[00:00] <aliendude3500> cirodiazvelez, update your graphics driver. what graphics card do you have?
[00:01] <danny__> is anyone familiar with bash shell scripting?
[00:01] <aliendude3500> danny__, I am, somewhat...
[00:01] <cirodiazvelez> im on an 11.6 acer one model AO751H
[00:02] <aliendude3500> cirodiazvelez, that doesn't tell me anything about your graphics card. Can you post the output of "sudo lshw" in the terminal?
[00:02] <danny__> do you mind if you help me figure out how to write this one script..its really not to hard but its been awhile since I've dealt with shell scripting..
[00:02] <cirodiazvelez> OK THANKS LET ME SEE
[00:02] <aliendude3500> danny__, what do you need the script to do?
[00:03] <flootenkerp> Hi, I'm using google chrome, and I am getting this odd error about a revoked certificate
[00:03] <flootenkerp> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=16773
[00:03] <flootenkerp> Does anybody here know why?
[00:04] <aliendude3500> flootenkerp, check on a chrome specific IRC channel, you probably won't get help here.
[00:04] <mathew> i can't find 256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS drivers for ubuntu
[00:04] <flootenkerp> ok, thanks aliendude
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez> aliendude3500 *-display UNCLAIMED
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez>              description: VGA compatible controller
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez>              product: System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez>              physical id: 2
[00:04] <FloodBot1> cirodiazvelez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <cirodiazvelez>              bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[00:05] <aliendude3500> mathew, the open source noveau drivers should be plenty...
[00:05] <danny__> I have to write a script that requires one input argument. The script should print out a USAGE statement with a non-zero exit code. When the argument (number 1-6) is entered..the script should output...THE PROCESS ID FOR THE MINGETTY ON TTY# IS #### (where tty# represents the terminal # entered, and #### is the process id number.
[00:05] <koshari> mathew you shouldnt need specific drivers for that gpu
[00:05] <mathew> how do i do that aliendude?
[00:06] <mathew> i really have no clue what im doing, im used to windows
[00:06] <computer47562> welcome to linux
[00:06] <mathew> hahaha thanks, i like it alot more already
[00:06] <aliendude3500> mathew, if you have the latest updates, you probably already have open source nvidia drivers installed.
[00:06] <ribot> hi
[00:06] <koshari> mathew what are you actually trying to do?
[00:07] <ribot> is there a way to unlock the default keyring automatically on bootup?
[00:07] <mathew> yeah, but everything is effed up, like my facebook page is soo retared
[00:07] <unop> ribot, make sure your keyring's password and your login password are the same
[00:07] <cdw32> hello everyone
[00:07] <UbuntuFish> hey everyone
[00:07] <aliendude3500> mathew, try this "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" in the terminal. I don't even have an nvidia card, but that might work for you.
[00:07] <cirodiazvelez> alliendude3500 i just send u the info
[00:07] <militant> evening folks.  ran into a little UI issue.  i was fooling with compiz and enabled its fancy window switcher, and when i turned effects back off... no more of the regular window switcher..
[00:07] <mathew> well i just threw linux on here yesterday out of the blue, but my display is messed up
[00:08] <rww> ribot: blank the keyring password or set the keyring password to your login password and turn off auto login
[00:08] <ribot> unop they are the same, yet it doesnt happen.. i even installed this libpam keyring
[00:08] <CkhiKuzad> ugh, screw it. i am not going to get an answer, so its time to /quit
[00:08] <cdw32> would anyone know a program i could use to play avi file extensions?
[00:08] <ribot> rww i need to be able to boot it remotely
[00:08] <koshari> mathew how is your display messed up exactly?
[00:08] <aliendude3500> cirodiazvelez, hmm... Intel cards are generally very well supported on Linux. Do you have the latest system updates?
[00:08] <UbuntuFish> i was wondring about rythmbox, i can't get it to copy files i import to my music folder.  is there any way to set it to copy files into its library folder whien importing?
[00:08] <unop> ribot, ahh so you have a passwordless login?
[00:08] <rww> ribot: there is no way of automatically unlocking the keyring password without providing that password at some point.
[00:08] <mathew> like my cursor is tiny, all the text on my browser is small, and if i enlargen the text it gets jumbled up
[00:09] <ribot> ok well, is there a way to enter that password from ssh?
[00:09] <rww> ribot: if you need to autologin and automatically unlock the keyring, the keyring password has to be blank.
[00:09] <frostbite7> good evening everone
[00:09] <cirodiazvelez> yes man.. i jusst run the update =( what can i do
[00:09] <rww> not that I know of
[00:09] <mathew> plus the chat at the bottom of my face book is SOOO small
[00:09] <koshari> whats your screens resolution?
[00:09] <UbuntuFish> mathew:  maybe you just have a reallly high resolution display lol... what kind of graphics card do u have?
[00:09] <ribot> or i just need the wlan to activate automatically
[00:09] <ulb> doesnaybody here have an Asus eee box, and, if so, what version of ubuntu are you running on it? I was thinking of getting one as a small webserver.
[00:09] <aliendude3500> cirodiazvelez, did you try changing the resolution using System > Preferences > Display?
[00:09] <UbuntuFish> i was wondring about rythmbox, i can't get it to copy files i import to my music folder.  is there any way to set it to copy files into its library folder whien importing?
[00:10] <mathew> 1920x1200 but if i make it smaller the graphics look terrible and dull
[00:10] <frostbite7> can anyone help me install a plug in? how do i install plugins like autumn leaves and screensaver?
[00:10] <UbuntuFish> matew: what kind of graphics card do u hav?  like, intel, ati, nvidia, or what?
[00:11] <aliendude3500> danny__, that is a pretty complicated script, sorry, I don't have the time to write something that large... I thought you just needed a bit of syntax help...
[00:11] <kyle6513> Hey, does anyone know how to force a resolution on a display so that it either scrolls or stretches it? it works in windows, I've tried xorg and xrandr to no avail
[00:11] <kyle6513> I have intel intergrated graphics.
[00:11] <aliendude3500> frostbite7, If I'm right, you want to install screensavers?
[00:11] <mathew> 256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900
[00:12] <danny__> do you mind if I send you what I have so far and you can help me tweak it a bit?
[00:12] <cirodiazvelez> allien dude yes it only give me one option of screen resolution...}
[00:12] <aliendude3500> frostbite7, typing "sudo apt-get install screensaver\*" in the terminal should give you a pretty large collection of screensavers.
[00:12] <frostbite7> no. i want to install plugins like the snow plugins, cube atlantis, autumn leaves, and bubbles
[00:12] <frostbite7> lol but thanks for that info to :-)
[00:12] <mathew> 256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS ubuntu fish
[00:13] <aliendude3500> frostbite7, you mean desktop effects? Do you have Compiz enabled?
[00:13] <UbuntuFish> matew: do u have the proprietary driver installed?
[00:13] <frostbite7> yes i do
[00:13] <kyle6513> Hey, does anyone know how to force a resolution on a display so that it either scrolls or stretches it? it works in windows, I've tried xorg and xrandr to no avail
[00:13] <Charlie> hi
[00:13] <mathew> idk, i went to hardware drivers and it said it was up to date
[00:13] <tribbletron> ubuntu-desktop
[00:13] <Guest23519> just uninstalled everything in synaptic because i wanted it all clean
[00:14] <Guest23519> I am now on command based ubuntu like server
[00:14] <unop> ribot, you can use things like the interfaces file or wpasupplicant to start wireless
[00:14] <Guest23519> Can someone tell me how i install just the gnome interface?
[00:14] <UbuntuFish> matew: there should be an option for like nvidia drivers, proprietary drivers, something like that.  you can check that off, and it will install a driver made by nvidia and then ask you to restart.  it might help, if anything you will get better performance.
[00:14] <unop> ribot, that way you don't have to depend on having a user logging on to have wireless enabled
[00:14] <mathew> i'll check now...
[00:14] <kyle6513> Guest23519, I believe, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:15] <aliendude3500> frostbite7, you can change most compiz settings with compizconfig settings manager... I think the package is something like ccsm.
[00:15] <tweaksource> I like to install from a minimal cd and just add what I need.
[00:15] <kyle6513> Guest23519, I'll have to have a look, unless you want to try it
[00:15] <frostbite7> thank you aliendude3500
[00:15] <Guest23519> will it install all the other default application come with the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[00:15] <tweaksource> Guest23519, it would be ubuntu-desktop, yes
[00:16] <tweaksource> Guest23519, yes, it will
[00:16] <TroN-0074> can somebody please tell me how to fix my partitions under ubuntu?
[00:16] <TroN-0074> I will appreciate it
[00:16] <ribot> unop can i start it even without x then? got a link to this thing?
[00:16] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, What is wrong with them?
[00:16] <mathew> its says that there are no proprietary drivers in use on this system
[00:16] <UbuntuFish> matew:  ok.  that probably isn't the problem but it might be
[00:16] <TroN-0074> I have a doul boot with two copies of ubuntu I just want to removee one
[00:16] <Guest23519> but isn't there a way to just install the interface without having to get all the programs like firefox, openoffice, pidgin and so on?
[00:17] <mathew> well i have no clue what to do
[00:17] <mathew> lmfao
[00:17] <unop> ribot, what do you use as the encryption scheme for wireless?  WPA or WEP?
[00:17] <UbuntuFish> matew:  u said b4 that u just like recently "threw it on" your computer, is it like fully installed?  or was that someone else?
[00:17] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, Do you know which one is doing the booting?
[00:17] <danny__> hey aliendude3500 did you get what I sent you?
[00:17] <ribot> unop: wpa
[00:17] <TroN-0074> one I mess up the Xorg.conf so I installed it again and I didnt click to use the entired disck
[00:17] <mathew> i fully installed it, like reformated and everything
[00:18] <tweaksource> TroN-0074,  Is there WIndoze?
[00:18] <unop> ribot,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[00:18] <TroN-0074> I have 8.10 doing the boot, 9.04 has the xorg.conf messed up
[00:18] <ribot> thanks unop
[00:18] <kyle6513> Guest23519, try, sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[00:18] <UbuntuFish> matew:  ok good that is the cool thing to do.  and makes things simpler.  welcome to ubuntu btw
[00:19] <TroN-0074> I do not have windows installed
[00:19] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, So, 8.10 was installed 2nd and it is the one you want to keep?
[00:19] <mathew> thanks lmfao, like i said this is my first OS aside from windows
[00:19] <kyle6513> mathew, Good luck!
[00:19] <TroN-0074> yes I want 8.10
[00:19] <aliendude3500> danny__, yeah, I replied.
[00:19] <UbuntuFish> matew:  nice.  well too bad you have to start off right away with problems
[00:19] <TroN-0074> 9.04 does not work well with my grapich card
[00:20] <frostbite7> do you know where i can find these packages aliendude3500
[00:20] <mathew> yeah... its alot simpler i think so far... other than the issues lol
[00:20] <frostbite7> ?
[00:20] <tweaksource> TroN-0074,  When you installed 9.04 you used entire disk? Can you pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l', please?
[00:20] <mathew> btw thanks kyle
[00:21] <kyle6513> mathew, no problems =]
[00:21] <TroN-0074> yes one sec
[00:21] <Lungan_> When will next LTS support be available for download?
[00:21] <mathew> so do you have any ideas ubuntu fish?
[00:21] <cdw32> can a windows codec be used with 8.04
[00:22] <tweaksource> cdw32, Check Medibuntu
[00:22] <aliendude3500> frostbite7, hold on, I'm trying to help 4 people at once lol
[00:22] <UbuntuFish> alright, i probly shouldnt do this on an irc channel, but heres a link to a screenshot i just took of my hardware drivers page http://bit.ly/8XIBBP
[00:22] <kyle6513> Hey, does anyone know how to force a resolution on a display so that it either scrolls or stretches it? it works in windows, I've tried xorg and xrandr to no avail
[00:22] <TroN-0074> @chavez-laptop:~$ fdisk -l
[00:22] <TroN-0074> Cannot open /dev/sda
[00:22]  * kyle6513 steals UbuntuFish's hardware ;D
[00:22] <Lungan_> Is "Xubuntu" EXACTLY the same thing as Ubuntu? Without the xfce instead of gnome of course
[00:23] <frostbite7> :-0 no problem thanks again for going out of your way to help me in the first place. i appreciate it
[00:23] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  rawr, must defend computer
[00:23] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, xD
[00:23] <kyle6513> Lungan_, more or less, looks different though.
[00:23] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: with xfce instead of gnome
[00:23] <UbuntuFish> lungan: pretty much.  its good if regular ubuntu is too slow
[00:23] <TroN-0074> tweaksource this is what I  got @chavez-laptop:~$ fdisk -l
[00:23] <TroN-0074> Cannot open /dev/sda
[00:23] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, That's it?
[00:23] <mathew> yeah... i have nothing like that it says no proprietary drivers in use on this system
[00:24] <TroN-0074> yes
[00:24] <TroN-0074> weird
[00:24] <Lungan_> Yeah but xfce seems like a really nice windowmanager
[00:24] <UbuntuFish> matew: so theres no option to install nvidia?  ok i should probably stop obsessing with drivers
[00:24] <powertool08> How can I find what's stopping my drive from unmounting? lsof | grep /media/<drivelabel> isn't returning anything.
[00:24] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: meaning that certain configuration utilities and settings managment is different but the under the hood its the same
[00:24] <kyle6513> Can anyone help me setting up my laptop to display 1024x768 instead of 1024x600? intel graphics on eeepc
[00:24] <mathew> yeah.. nothing its all blank...
[00:24] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, Do you have gparted installed?
[00:25] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, or a live cd?
[00:25] <unop> kyle6513, can your eepc even support that resolution?
[00:25] <TroN-0074> I have the installation CD
[00:25] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: xfce is a whole desktop environment, if you want the best window manager ever, get openbox
[00:25] <kyle6513> unop, does under windows. it just stretches the display
[00:25] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, Is it Live CD or alternate install?
[00:25] <UbuntuFish> matew:  too bad.  btw, u r using karmic, right?
[00:25] <blakkheim> !best | arghh2d2
[00:25] <Lungan_> arghh2d2, openbox, is it hard to learn? is it fast?
[00:26] <mathew> pfftt idk im using ubuntu 9.10 thats all i know
[00:26] <TroN-0074> Live CD I believe. the first time I booted ubuntu from the CD
[00:26] <ribot> i seem to have wpa_supplicant installed, but there is no such file /etc/wpa_supplicant -- however there is a folder /etc/wpa_supplicant without any conf file
[00:26] <kyle6513> mathew, karmic is the code name for 9.10 so yes :P
[00:26] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: its fast and configuring is pretty easy once your used to it
[00:26] <mathew> then yes lmfao
[00:26] <kyle6513> mathew, :P
[00:27] <mathew> thanks kyle.. again lol
[00:27] <UbuntuFish> openbox looks kind of meh
[00:27] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, Your best bet would be to 1. Backup 2. Boot live cd 3. Delete 9.04 partition 4. move everything else if you wish.
[00:27] <rww> ribot: If you're trying to configure wireless from the command-line, just use /etc/network/interfaces
[00:27] <kyle6513> mathew, hey no problems, I'm still learning like you :)
[00:27] <Lungan_> arghh2d2, I've used fluxbox, but find it pretty hard to learn to have the full benefit of the windowmanager, is openbox easier?
[00:27] <UbuntuFish> ok... is everything like small but clear?  or small and "crunchy" if you know what i mean
[00:27] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, hey, if you're looking for speed, who cares about looks?
[00:27] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, If you don't NEED to remove 9.04, but just don't want it in the boot menu, you can remove the entry from menu.lst
[00:28] <mathew> small and clear... but tiny
[00:28] <TroN-0074> yeah deleting 9.04 would be my chooise but I dont know how to identify that partition
[00:28] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  yeah, but im a huge sucker for visual fx
[00:28] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: it's fast as balls...it starts out just a blank screen and a menu but you can customize it with light accessories like tint2 panel and rox file manager keeping it fast fast fast... if your not into building yourself tho your better off with xfce or lxde
[00:28] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, you're not alone, im lucky my little eeepc  has atleast 256 built in video memory ;D
[00:28] <TroN-0074> yeah but I would like to free some memory too. that is why I would like to just get rid of it
[00:28] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, If you have 1 disk, and it was clean when you installed 9.04 first, then it should be sda1
[00:28] <ribot> rww: what to write there?
[00:29] <rww> ribot: I assume you're using WPA?
[00:29] <Lungan_> arghh2d2, Yeah, but how does openbox differ from fluxbox?
[00:29] <UbuntuFish> matew:  thats really weird.  some sort of bug i guess, sorry im not that good.  the only thing i can think of is reducing your resolution.  hopefully someone smarter than me can think of something
[00:29] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, It should have only made 1 system partition and a swap
[00:29] <aliendude3500> kyle6513, if you don't carte about looks, and just want speed, use Xmonad. :P
[00:29] <ribot> rww yes
[00:29] <arghh2d2> Lungan_: a little bit faster, different config file formats...openbox uses .xml
[00:29] <mathew> well if i shrink my resolution everything gets dull
[00:30] <kyle6513> mathew, could you try running  xrandr in a terminal and put the output in a pastebin and give me the link?
[00:30] <TroN-0074> can you please tell me how to do it?
[00:30] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: how did u get an eeepc with video memory?  im guessing you also go crazy with compiz
[00:30] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, I have the eeepc 1000H, and yes, i <3 compiz xD
[00:30] <UbuntuFish> matew:  sorry, im actually a bit of a noob myself, if i think of anything myself i;ll let you know
[00:30] <Lungan_> arghh2d2, okok,maybe I will try that tomoroww
[00:30] <mathew> thanks
[00:30] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  nice.  whats your favorite window animation?
[00:31] <rww> ribot: http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834 is a good tutorial on wireless + /etc/network/interfaces. If you scroll down to "******Sample configuration WPA2 & DHCP, ESSID broadcast enabled****", it has what to put in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:31] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, Gparted is needed for the easiest route.
[00:31] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: or rather favorite compiz plugin in general
[00:31] <mathew> btw.. whats a good site for downloading music?
[00:31] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, didnt really look into that, it tends to slow down when im doing stuff at that point as im mostly running on the powersave, which makes the cpu run at 800mhz
[00:31] <mathew> ***app
[00:31] <TroN-0074> let me look for  it one sec
[00:31] <ribot> thans rww
[00:31] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, I just use fade, and i love the cube 8D
[00:32] <Ari_Lazarus> Hello peeps. I have a questions: when I connect my ext hdd to my computer and it gets mounted, I get two icons representing the drive. Why is this?
[00:32] <TroN-0074> gparted is installing now
[00:32] <powertool08> How can I find what's stopping my drive from unmounting? lsof | grep /media/<drivelabel> isn't returning anything.
[00:32] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  oh yes.  one thing that bugs me is:  i setup my bottom right corner to clear all the windows off to the side of the desktop, but i can't restore the windows while drag n dropping a file, forcing me to use the cube to get to my desktop
[00:33] <UbuntuFish> if that made sense
[00:33] <TroN-0074> o.k I got Gparted
[00:33] <Awesome3000> Ari_Lazarus  Are there two partitions or are they both the same
[00:33] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, i think i get what you mean xD
[00:33] <tweaksource> TroN-0074, How many partitions does it show?
[00:33] <TroN-0074> can you please advise on where to go from there
[00:33] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: yeah
[00:33] <Ari_Lazarus> Awesome3000: They are the same drive
[00:34] <TroN-0074> Oh I just installed I havent run it one sec
[00:34] <UbuntuFish> anyone know how to configure rythmbox to copy files into its library folder when importing?
[00:34] <Awesome3000> Ari_Lazarus: If you un-mount one do they both go
[00:34] <Ari_Lazarus> Nope
[00:34] <kyle6513> mathew, did you do what i asked? :S
[00:35] <Awesome3000> Ari_Lazarus: maybe the drive is being mounted twice
[00:35] <Ari_Lazarus> So I should check fstab?
[00:35] <mathew> whats a good... application i guess for downloading music?
[00:35] <blakkheim> mathew: wget
[00:35] <Kevin147> FrostWire
[00:36] <rww> !gnutella | mathew
[00:36] <powertool08> mathew: Don't forget torrents.
[00:36] <Ari_Lazarus> mathew: Ubuntu already comes with Transmission - just use any tracker you like
[00:36] <mathew> i used frostwire wheni had windows
[00:36] <xeer> I'm trying to find a good place to download the ubuntu torrent, can anyone recommend some sites?
[00:36] <UbuntuFish> anyone know how to configure rythmbox to copy files into its library folder when importing?
[00:36] <xeer> trackers I mean
[00:36] <UbuntuFish> brb everyone
[00:36] <Kevin147> matthew: There is FrostWire for Linux also.
[00:37] <mathew> i never thought of that lmfao
[00:37] <Kevin147> matthew: lol
[00:37] <Kevin`> I have problem with ubuntu and wireshark, anyone want to fix it?: http://kwzs.be/~kevin/shark1.txt http://kwzs.be/~kevin/shark2.txt
[00:37] <powertool08> xeer: http://www.thepirategoogle.com/
[00:37] <Awesome3000> Ari_Lazarus: if it's listed there Yes
[00:37] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, should be in settings, if not, there would be a plugin somewhere
[00:38] <mathew> what is the best? what would you recommend the most if i had to pick one?
[00:38] <powertool08> Nobody knows how to find what's blocking my drive from unmounting?
[00:38] <ulb> I am pretty sure ther eis an option to monitor a specific folde rin rhythmbox options
[00:38] <atomfox> how do you manually run sessions manager? what's the command thanks...
[00:38] <meganerd> powertool08: use lsof
[00:39] <powertool08> meganerd: I did, no results.
[00:39] <ulb> powertool08: lsof or top/htop
[00:39] <meganerd> powertool08: how did you use it?
[00:39] <Ari_Lazarus> Awesome3000: I think I know why. It exists in fstab, and when I connect it the drive automounts itself so I get two icons.
[00:39] <VCoolio> atomfox: gnome-session-properties
[00:39] <powertool08> ulb: I tried htop too, the only thing I found was ntfs-3g using it.
[00:40] <xeer> powertool08: thanks for the tip!
[00:40] <powertool08> meganerd: lsof | grep <disk label> and lsof | grep media
[00:40] <powertool08> xeer: np
[00:40] <xeer> powertool08: but it doesn't work.
[00:40] <xeer> lol
[00:40] <atomfox> VCoolio, thanks ^_^
[00:40] <NCDS> server irc.rizon.net
[00:40] <clone1018> Hello. Why won't this xorg.conf file work? http://paste.rohitab.com/1662
[00:40] <Awesome3000> Ari_Lazarus: That would be it
[00:40] <ymn_ayk80> hello everybody
[00:40] <ulb> powertool08: are you running wine?
[00:40] <powertool08> xeer: Oh, haven't used it in awhile.
[00:40] <powertool08> ulb: No.
[00:40] <ulb> so why ntfs-3g then?
[00:40] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  i scoured everywhere, couldnt find anything
[00:41] <ulb> running samba?
[00:41] <meganerd> ulb: ntfs-3g is the default way of accessing ntfs partitions these days
[00:41] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, dont think its possible, although theres an option to make it scan a folder for changes, maybe use that?
[00:41] <ulb> meganerd: yeah I wondered why he has ntfs with Linux
[00:42] <meganerd> powertool08: did you try "sudo lsof |grep <unique part of path"
[00:42] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: i guess.  but then it doesnt keep it nice and organized.
[00:42] <meganerd> ulb: a lot of USB drives now ship with it
[00:42] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, true that,
[00:42] <kyle6513> anyone here have any experience with 915resolution?
[00:42] <powertool08> ulb: Yes, I have samba running. Does it have to be stopped? Or disconnect any old sessions?
[00:42] <clone1018> Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:42] <meganerd> ulb: ntfsusb hard drives is how I share data with my friends
[00:43] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: i guess it doesnt matter cuz rythmbox organizes it in its ui lol
[00:43] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, hah, yeah, i like rythmbox's ui, although, i still wish winamp would get ported
[00:43] <powertool08> meganerd: Yes I tried that.
[00:43] <mazda01> bought some new dvd-r disc from best buy. $6 for qty 25. that was probably my mistake. i can't seem to make one successful burn of a dvd iso movie. I keep getting PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR  from k3b, brasero, and growisofs from the command line. do I just throw away all the disc?
[00:44] <ymn_ayk80> Hello everyone! I'm trying to mount an e-reader of Sony(usb connection), this is the result of mount: "mount: block device /dev/sde is write-protected, mounting read-only"...also I read this from /var/log/messages:  "kernel: [ 2634.221935] sd 8:0:0:3: [sde] Write Protect is on". What do I have to do to resolve this? Any idea?
[00:44] <meganerd> ymn_ayk80: probably a setting on the e-reader itself
[00:44] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: i am na ex-fanboi so itunes is really my preferred interface... speaking of which any idea when 5g ipod nano support is gonna be released for linux?
[00:45] <clone1018> Why won't this xorg.conf file work? If anyone has any ideas please query me. http://paste.rohitab.com/1662
[00:45] <powertool08> meganerd: ulb I stopped samba and the only process I can find is /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g, still not unmounting.
[00:46] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, no idea, I HATE itunes with a passion, it is the most absolute biggest piece of ^%$& software ever made, but I have no idea, it should be the same as most ipods, like the 4th G, this is for music of course, the video, no idea
[00:46] <rww> clone1018: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would help.
[00:46] <clone1018> One sec then
[00:46] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: it was my first music organizer so it set the standard for me lol
[00:46] <meganerd> clone1018: why are you bothering with xorg.conf?  xrandr is capable of making these changes on the fly
[00:46] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, If you think thats good, you should try winamp if you ever get windoze back
[00:47] <defaultuser> i need help with 2 things. starting with my kodak esp-3 all in one printer. doesnt do any thing
[00:47] <ymn_ayk80> meagnerd is right
[00:47] <ymn_ayk80> xrandr is cool
[00:47] <meganerd> powertool08: how are you unmounting it?
[00:47] <clone1018> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m22ee112d
[00:47] <powertool08> meganerd: right click and unmount on the desktop icon.
[00:47] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: lol i just recently killed my 'doze partition cuz it was so screwed up
[00:47] <clone1018> Where can I find xrandr?
[00:48] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, sad thing is, it was probably windows who did that
[00:48] <meganerd> powertool08: try unmounting it from the CLI, "sudo umount /media/<mountpoint>"
[00:48] <ymn_ayk80> maybe you have already
[00:48] <ulb> powertool08: have you tried lazy umount (-l)?
[00:48] <hosoka> Hello everyone. Anyone that can tell me what the commando line is for to start automatically into ubuntu without typing startx everytime ?
[00:48] <meganerd> powertool08: also, what version of Ubuntu is this?  Sorry if you posted earlier I just joined the onversation
[00:48] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  well, one time i reinstalled windoze cuz i resized its partition with gparted, which apperantly windows  can't handle
[00:48] <mazda01> bought some new dvd-r disc from best buy. $6 for qty 25. that was probably my mistake. i can't seem to make one successful burn of a dvd iso movie. I keep getting PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR  from k3b, brasero, and growisofs from the command line. do I just throw away all the disc?
[00:48] <rww> clone1018: `(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"` --> from the look of it, that log is from an attempt to launch Xorg failsafe, so it didn't use your xorg.conf
[00:49] <jrib> hosoka: it does that by default.  What did you do to disable it?
[00:49] <UbuntuFish> mazda01:  thats a hardware problem.
[00:49] <rww> ubottu: pm | clone1018
[00:49] <powertool08> ulb: Lazy umount did it.
[00:49] <hosoka> jrib: it was by default active, it disabled after an upgrade of the system.
[00:49] <mazda01> i could see if it was happening on 1 dvd burner, but all 3?? i doubt it
[00:49] <ulb> ;)
[00:49] <meganerd> hosoka: assuming you did not make too many significant changes: "sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults"
[00:49] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, of course not, why would windows think anyone would turn to linux again? pfff :P
[00:49] <UbuntuFish> mazda01:  3?  wow...
[00:50] <jrib> hosoka: what update?  updates don't do that
[00:50] <powertool08> meganerd: The lazy umount did the trick, thanks for the help though.
[00:50] <hosoka> jrib: upgrade of the syst.
[00:50] <powertool08> ulb: What exactly is lazy umount?
[00:50] <jrib> hosoka: is gdm installed?  Did you remove it?
[00:50] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513:  i hate the condecending "please wait while windows sets up your computer", like wtf i want to set up my computer get out of my box grr
[00:50] <hosoka> jrib: let me check that.
[00:50] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, hahaha
[00:50] <ulb> man umount (it detatches it from file hierarchy if it is not in use)
[00:51] <meganerd> powertool08: I would install the ntfsprogs package, it can be handy to fix ntfs volumes that are marked as dirty
[00:51] <powertool08> ulb: Ok, thanks for the help
[00:51] <powertool08> meganerd: I'll check that out, thanks again.
[00:51] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, I like the fact that windows, while being more primitive and having less ability to customize it, still takes longer than a fully customized linux installation to start up
[00:51] <ulb> sometimes things hang (I have had that issue with USB drives that get polled)
[00:51] <clone1018> So anyways how do I use xrandr?
[00:51] <mazda01> i have read that before burningh wodim tries to write data to a certain part of the media, if it cant then it will fail. the burner worked fine with my last dvd+r's I tried but this time I bought dvd-r's, super generic ones. yeah, i can't burn an dvd iso on a sony optirac dvd-ram burner, a generic 16x dvd burner or or my NEC burner
[00:52] <paul7285> greetings
[00:52] <bazhang> !xrandr | clone1018 read this
[00:52] <meganerd> clone1018: http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR
[00:52] <hosoka> jrb: have seen that gdm needed to be upgrade aswell. Perhaps that was the case ?
[00:52] <mazda01> the old dvd+r's were by phillips.
[00:52] <mazda01> worked fine
[00:52] <UbuntuFish> kyle653: it is a useful feature
[00:52] <UbuntuFish> kyle6513: lol
[00:53] <kyle6513> UbuntuFish, xD
[00:53] <franz99> Hi, I installed pptpd daemon on my Ubuntu 8.04 and configured the env. Actually all clients can correctly connect to the VPN server but I'd like that they can ping togheter too, is it possibile?
[00:54] <paul7285> hello    how can i install canon software under linuxmint 8
[00:54] <hosoka> jrb: after upgrading gdm does the syst needs reboot ?
[00:54] <UbuntuFish> random curious question, is it possible to setup a cluster computer with ubuntu?
[00:54] <clone1018> paul7285: #linuxmint
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport
[00:55] <meganerd> hosoka: no
[00:56] <hosoka> I was looking only for the commandline for autostart Ubuntu for me not to type startx everytime.
[00:56] <paul7285> # as in root
[00:56] <UbuntuFish> paul7285: no offense, but canon software sucks, if you really have to, run it under wine.  i would suggest using the photo app installed in mint, its gonna be like 1000 times better.  and you should really be asking this on the mint channel
[00:56] <clone1018> That ubuntu bot is really annoyinh
[00:56] <clone1018> annoying
[00:56] <hosoka> When going to login screen there is no way for me to unlock it as it turns out grey.
[00:56] <mazda01> so no one else is having problems with wodim?
[00:57] <hosoka> Knowing that in there is this option to autologin,but there is also a commando line.
[00:57] <UbuntuFish> clone1018, well it is kinda important, otherwise this would be flooded with like fedora, mac, windoze, etc users wanting help lol
[00:57] <skullcandy> hello guys, does anyone have itunes latest version installed on there ubuntu? i need some help installing it
[00:57] <clone1018> But I can't even PM someone without him bitching at me
[00:57] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: latest version of ubuntu?
[00:57] <bazhang> skullcandy, cannot be installed on ub untu
[00:58] <meganerd> franz99: it has been a long time since I have run pptp, but IIRC, the problem for you is routing based
[00:58] <UbuntuFish> clone1018: lol speaking of which how do u pm people?
[00:58] <skullcandy> no, i' am talking about itunes , either version is fine as long as its isntalled
[00:58] <paul7285> How do I(you) get to the mint channel ?  I get a program install .exe under wine
[00:58] <Ademos> Is this the place to ask for help with firefox-daily-builds? If not, is there an IRC channel I can go to?
[00:58] <bazhang> skullcandy, there is no Linux version
[00:58] <clone1018> ./query NAME message
[00:58] <franz99> meganerd, can you suggest me a guide? I have to play with iptables only?
[00:58] <skullcandy> what about installing it with wine?
[00:58] <unop> paul7285,   type   /join #linuxmint
[00:59] <bazhang> skullcandy, check the appdb; it is barely usable at last look
[00:59] <hosoka> I was looking only for the commandline for autostart Ubuntu for me not to type startx everytime.
[00:59] <franz99> meganerd, actually I cannot ping an host to another host, only the VPN server.. and I have to share some resurces on it.. it's very important :(
[00:59] <bazhang> !appdb | skullcandy
[00:59] <gbear14275> hello
[00:59] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: if you want ipod support, rythmbox has ipod support.  you can enable it in plugins
[00:59] <meganerd> franz99: I used to use poptop (almost 10 years ago by now) and I think there were options to push routing entries into the route table of the connecting clients
[00:59] <skullcandy> thankyou for the quick response
[00:59] <paul7285> okay thanks
[00:59] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: itunes is rly sketchy under wine
[01:00] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: lol thats what i love about the irc
[01:00] <bazhang> skullcandy, #winehq for specialized wine questions as well
[01:00] <skullcandy> @ubntufish, Ubuntu community = pwn winblows
[01:00] <franz99> meganerd, ok
[01:00] <skullcandy> thanks bazhang
[01:00] <tweaksource> GTKPod for Ipod support, too!
[01:00] <danny__> does anyone have experience writing bash shell scripts that could help me?
[01:00] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: lol yes.  btw, what do u want itunes for?
[01:00] <cirodiazvelez> hello, i cant  change my display settings pleas help
[01:00] <unop> danny__, /join #bash
[01:00] <meganerd> franz99: franz99 a better solution might be to use OpenVPN.  This is what I now use for my clients
[01:00] <roger_> i put a new drive in my system and i can't get it to mount other than clicking on it in nautilus, any ideas how to fix
[01:00] <Ademos> When attempting to run the latest firefox-3.6 from the firefox-daily-builds PPA, I get the follow errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/360367/
[01:00] <Awesome3000> danny__: what do you need done
[01:01] <skullcandy> @ubuntufish, my bro needs it for switching music onto his ipod
[01:01] <gbear14275> I'm trying to use diff to compare 2 directories but am being flooded by sessions data being only in one... i tried piping the results to less but can't seem to understand it, Also can't seem to find a flag which will ignore the "only in" messages... can someone suggest something which will help me understand this more easily?
[01:01] <hosoka> Hello does anyone knows the commandline for autostart Ubuntu for me not to type startx everytime.
[01:01] <Awesome3000> roger_: add it to fstab
[01:01] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: what kind of ipod?
[01:01] <skullcandy> ipod nano its orange
[01:01] <gbear14275> I don't have admin on the box I'm working on so need something at the user level :-/
[01:01] <baba> songbird with plugins is nearly itunes... i would prefer this way
[01:01] <roger_> Awesome3000 i put it in fstab, still no mount
[01:01] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: the one with the camera?
[01:02] <skullcandy> no no camera
[01:02] <skullcandy> lemme find a pic of it k?
[01:02] <hosoka> Anyone ?
[01:02] <meganerd> hosoka: sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[01:02] <mathew> hey, is UbuntuFish still around?
[01:02] <tweaksource> skullcandy, gtkpod works great for my nano.
[01:02] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy:  rythmbox should support it then, you could check it against this page here http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
[01:02] <UbuntuFish> matew: yea
[01:02] <mathew> lmfao... this sit is driving me crazy
[01:02] <skullcandy> @ubuntufish, exactly like this but orange> http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/ipod-nano.jpg
[01:02] <mathew> **shit
[01:02] <tweaksource> hosoka, You need a session manager like gdm, kdm, or xdm
[01:03]  * quarkup the story behind the Tux !! >> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/TheStoryBehindTux.jpg
[01:03] <Ademos> When attempting to run the latest firefox-3.6 from the firefox-daily-builds PPA, I get the follow errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/360367/
[01:03] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: that should work fine.  btw, you don't need the @
[01:03] <roger_> you think ubuntu is confused cuz i took out an old drive and put this one in with the same name
[01:03] <skullcandy> ubuntufish, i know i' am used to typing that on utube lawl
[01:04] <poyntz> can anyone help me install the quickcam driver on karmic?
[01:04] <poyntz> when i try to make i get errors
[01:04] <hosoka> meganerd: thanks, will try it out. I had been upgrading the gdm now.
[01:05] <meganerd> hosoka: make sure that gdm is properly upgraded, it should be set to run automatically
[01:05] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: here check this out http://bit.ly/6CpFIQ that is a screenshot of the plugins window in rythmbox, the default music player in ubuntu.  banshee also has ipod support
[01:05] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: nice
[01:05] <skullcandy> thankyou ubuntufish
[01:06] <didi> Does someone use choqok on Ubuntu? I want to take the icon off the notification area.
[01:06] <UbuntuFish> wow my updates are downloading sooo slow
[01:06] <skullcandy> looks sleek and sexy XD
[01:06] <dreki> does anyone know a way to control the cpu clock on an intell atom n270 processor with ubuntu 9.10
[01:06] <ulb> doesnaybody here have an Asus eee box, and, if so, what version of ubuntu are you running on it? I was thinking of getting one as a small webserver.
[01:06]  * quarkup the story behind the Tux !!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TheStoryBehindTux.jpg
[01:06] <erisco> what is the development package for udev-extras?
[01:06] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: awesoem. enjoy
[01:06] <meganerd> dreki: the CPU frequency monitor app should allow you to set the CPU freq
[01:07] <meganerd> dreki: right click on an empty part of the panel, and select "Add to Panel"
[01:07] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: btw music library, don't use the import feature, it doesn't copy the files.  set it to check for new files, and manually drop your music into the folder.  it will save you a lot of pain in the long run
[01:07] <UbuntuFish> if that made sense
[01:08] <dreki> meganerd, thanks
[01:08] <mathew> ubuntufish: i took a screen shot so you can see my problem, if your still interested, i did tweak all my text settings but things like limewire, and face book are still messed
[01:09] <erisco> checking for GUDEV... configure: error: Package requirements (gudev-1.0) were not met: No package 'gudev-1.0' found
[01:09] <erisco> how do I correct this?
[01:09]  * poyntz doesn't want penguinitis
[01:09] <skullcandy> @ubuntufish i need some help with the program since i' am new to this
[01:09] <skullcandy> how do i load it so my music and stuff pops up?
[01:10] <ubuntuUserTom> Hey people =)
[01:10] <baba> where can i find the gdm setup gui
[01:11] <Chris___> How can I improve my battery life?
[01:11] <UbuntuFish> matew: ok , can i see a link to the screenshot?  bit.ly gives a really easy way to quickly upload photos without an account
[01:11] <meganerd> Chris___: turn down the brightness of your LCD
[01:11] <ubuntuUserTom> Chris__, try powerttop
[01:11] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: sure.
[01:11] <Chris___> meganerd: my brightness is already set to low when on battery power
[01:11] <UbuntuFish> skullcandy: just checking, are you new to ubuntu or just to rythmbox?
[01:12] <Chris___> ubuntuUserTom: I've run it, it had a few suggestions, but they don't seem to have made a difference
[01:12] <skullcandy> new to gtkpod
[01:12] <skullcandy> part time user of ubuntu ( my home desktop)
[01:12] <truenhero> irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-es
[01:12] <craigbass1976> Is there a way besides lm_sensors to monitor different temps?  Lm_sensors isn't finding any sensors
[01:12] <DasEi> Chris___: scale down processor, choose bios option, use hdparm to  control hd, put swap in ram if ram is big enough,.. kill uneeded services..errm
[01:13] <truenhero> #ubuntu-es
[01:13] <mathew> ubuntufish: http://bit.ly/5DYWm2
[01:13] <truenhero> necesito ayuda en español
[01:13] <ubuntuUserTom> Hey, could any one help me with a Slight problem I have. I ammed out on partitioning my HDD while installing Ubuntu 9.10 on myLaptop...I kinda forgot to partition the 110gigs of Space I have for files and Now im low on space... Im wondering, is there any way to like resize my Home Directory to use this space?
[01:13] <craigbass1976> I did suck out the stuf from the laptop fan area, so everything might be all set now anyway, but I wanted to watch it
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> truenhero: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:14] <truenhero> gracias bastid
[01:14] <craigbass1976> ubuntuUserTom, you could just move the whole /home directory contents to this partition, and mount it up in /home (in /etc/fstab)
[01:14] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: yes, does this unallocated 100~ lie next to your current /home ?
[01:14] <DasEi> ly
[01:14] <craigbass1976> ubuntuUserTom, but you'll probably want to do this with a livecd, not while the machine is running your regular OS
[01:14] <UbuntuFish> matew: hrm.  that is weird.  that is a rly small font on frostwire setup.
[01:15] <hiexpo> ubuntuUserTom, - did you just install it
[01:15] <UbuntuFish> matew: btw nice theme and background
[01:15] <dreki> is there anything built in to ubuntu 9.10 that can display processor temp from the pannel?i cant seem to find anything
[01:15] <ubuntuUserTom> no I didnt just install it =( I got a pop up saying I have 400 megs left while installing winxp on virtualBox
[01:15] <skullcandy> hey, is there a reason why gtkpod doesn't recognize the itouch ?
[01:15] <trajko> decko-ku28
[01:15] <craigbass1976> dreki, That's funny...  I just asked the same thing.  lm_sensors might work for you
[01:16] <DasEi> dreki, install lm-sensors, run sensors detect, install gnome applets, there you are
[01:16] <gumpish> Are there any scriptable (ie non-interactive) utilities that can truncate binary files? Or would i need to code something up with python or similar?
[01:17] <hiexpo> dreki, - yes 1 sec i will get you the name of it
[01:17] <ubuntuguest> is there a way to get vino to connect to a listening viewer?
[01:17] <DasEi> dreki, craigbass1976, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:17] <mathew> thanks ubuntufish lmfao... but i need it fixed or im gonna put windows back on cause i can handle it
[01:18] <UbuntuFish> matew: dont give up too fast... o_o
[01:18] <ubuntuUserTom> I am not sure if the un allocated space is 'next' to my home dir, Iwill google mounting stuff and see if I can work with craigs idea.
[01:18] <mathew> im not gonna but its driving me crazy
[01:19] <ubuntuguest> is there a way to get the default VNC server (VINO) to connect to a listening viewer?
[01:19] <UbuntuFish> matew: found this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312359 im just reading it over now
[01:19] <hiexpo> dreki, - there is an applet that i use i just right clicked on one of my panels and clicked add to panel than a box will open type temp there will be a hd monitor
[01:19] <DasEi> k, but you can see graphically in gparted about partis location , or use sudo fdisk -l, ubuntuUserTom
[01:20] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi - ill open gparted
[01:20] <UbuntuFish> matew: ok i think i found a solution
[01:20] <mathew> oh thanks ubuntufish!! i'll read over it now
[01:20] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: open a trml ..
[01:20] <UbuntuFish> matew:
[01:20] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:20] <UbuntuFish> matew: push alt-f2
[01:20] <UbuntuFish> matew: and type gconf-editor
[01:20] <craigbass1976> DasEi, I've got a Dell that apparently won't play with lm_sensors...
[01:21] <truenhero> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH nm-applet
[01:21] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[01:21] <levi_> hello
[01:21] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: give url from trml here
[01:21] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi - sure, just a sec installing packages now
[01:21] <dreki> hiexpo, DasEi, craigbass1976,  (lol) thanks
[01:21] <DasEi> xd
[01:22] <DasEi> craigbass1976: no sensors found ?
[01:22] <ubuntuUserTom> http://pastebin.com/f7bb97c35
[01:22] <hiexpo> dreki, - no prob
[01:22] <UbuntuFish> matew: you should get this window thingy with this file navigator type thing on the side.  choose desktop/gnome/font_rendering, and something should pop up in the main area of the window.  it should say dpi = something.  what does it say?
[01:22] <brandon-> anyone use ifuse with their ipod touch 2g?
[01:22] <craigbass1976> DasEi, correct
[01:23] <SkullCandy23> hey guys
[01:23] <mathew> dpi 96..
[01:23] <DasEi> craigbass1976: so you got to find the correct modules youself then, Im sure for cpu temp least there are somes
[01:23] <SkullCandy23> irssi irc chat is sexy :)
[01:24] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f7bb97c35
[01:24] <craigbass1976> DasEi, if this thing runs for an hour without shutting down, I'm going to call it good and blame it on dust in the fan/radiator assembly
[01:24] <UbuntuFish> matew: hit alt-f2, type gconf-editor, and you should get this window thingy with this file navigator type thing on the side.  choose desktop/gnome/font_rendering, and something should pop up in the main area of the window.  it should say dpi = something.  what does it say?
[01:24] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: got it above, did you set up a seperate /boot ?
[01:24] <mathew> dpi 96
[01:25] <hiexpo> hey i got a ? now that i am thinking of it why when i install a deb package it ends up in local or obsolete in synaptic for some reason it works but wondering why
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> aercddtdra41lxueidlsi
[01:25] <DasEi> craigbass1976: you could stress the cpu some time, then reboot in bios and look for temp, quick n dirty
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> dretwtq41ftdrdr rtd tdeaqwtdetrf0gf whedgudgcsdegug
[01:25] <mathew> ubuntufish: it says dpi-96
[01:26] <bazhang> bastid_raZor, hi
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> fdiufjfjjvf
[01:26] <UbuntuFish> matew:  the forum thing is rly unclear
[01:26] <craigbass1976> DasEi, what's the best way to do that?
[01:26] <levi_> back
[01:26] <UbuntuFish> matew: here i wrote up a little step by step
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> bazhang: my 3 year old likes to type.. i'll change terminal screens
[01:26] <mathew> alright... what are you thinking
[01:26] <UbuntuFish> matew: matew: hit alt-f2, type gconf-editor, and you should get this window thingy with this file navigator type thing on the side.  choose desktop/gnome/font_rendering, and something should pop up in the main area of the window.  it should say dpi = something.  what does it say?
[01:26] <Skullcandy23> is there a # room just for socializing?
[01:26] <DasEi> !info cpuburn | craigbass1976:
[01:27] <UbuntuFish> matew: i would suggest setting it to 96
[01:27] <DasEi>  craigbass1976: you can alter it#s behavior up to freezing your box
[01:27] <mathew> ubuntufish: it already says 96
[01:27] <bazhang> Skullcandy23, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Skullcandy23> thanks
[01:28] <UbuntuFish> dasei: wow how did u get the bot to do that lol
[01:28] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: you got two linux partis, is one of them a seperate /boot ?
[01:28] <UbuntuFish> matew: try increasing the value, see if that works
[01:28] <DasEi> !brain | UbuntuFish
[01:28] <UbuntuFish> matew: it could just be that frostwire has a really small font, not ubuntu's problem
[01:28] <mathew> alright... i'll try that
[01:29] <UbuntuFish> dasei: nifty
[01:29] <mathew> yeah, but facebook is wierd too
[01:29] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: I think so, I halve a 12gb Linux File System then a 2gb 'Extended' partition...then my swap space
[01:29] <erisco> both my gliblib2.0 and gliblib2.0-dev are out of date but they depend on each other... how can I upgrade them?
[01:30] <UbuntuFish> !ubuntu
[01:30] <mathew> i tired it, it made everything bigger accept frostwire
[01:30] <UbuntuFish> ubottu: you are cool and smart.  i wish you were human.
[01:30] <UbuntuFish> matew: that sucks
[01:30] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:call http://pastebin.com/f7bb97c35 in browser, sda1 and sda 3 are the two "real partitons you got
[01:31] <ubuntuUserTom> yes
[01:31] <UbuntuFish> matew: its frostwires fault then, see if you can change it in frostwire settings.  jsut to be clear, its not a problem with ubuntu
[01:32] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: yes, I see. I dont think it is then installed on a separate partition.
[01:32] <UbuntuFish> !ayb is all your base are belong to us
[01:32] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:so sda is the 12, coming short , and sda3 is the one you want to use now ?
[01:32] <UbuntuFish> !ayb
[01:32] <bazhang> UbuntuFish, please dont do that
[01:32] <mathew> yeah... but facebook is still strange... and other sites... i'll show you
[01:32] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: yeah.
[01:32] <DasEi> UbuntuFish: query the bot to play with it
[01:32] <argued> where can I find a decent, clean and small cursor theme for ubuntu? All I find out there are either hi-tech bs or ugly ports from customize org
[01:32] <UbuntuFish> bazhang: ... sorry that was a stupid idea srry
[01:32] <e66> Hello, my appearence settings doesn't get saved. Everytime I reboot/login I see old theme.  But when I open the appearace settings applet, the desktop theme changes promptly. how do I make the change saved persistantly???
[01:33] <UbuntuFish> e66: sorry for the dumb question, but you aren't runnign off a cd are you?  once again, sorry for the dumb tech support question
[01:33] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:as they have no direct boaarging 12 wont work, bu you can put /home on sda3
[01:34] <e66> UbuntuFish: My ubuntu is installed in harddisk. No Live CD is here.
[01:34] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:* direct borders
[01:35] <UbuntuFish> e66: ok. sorry, no idea.  sounds like something is screwed up.
[01:35] <JpMaxMan> Hi - I feel there might be a bot running on one of my Ubuntu servers.  I can see outgoing network connections.  Is there a way to identify what process might be initiating the outgoing connection?
[01:35] <erisco> if I have package X at version 2.0 why will it not let me install X at version 2.1 with the excuse that it breaks the previous dependency?
[01:36] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, so If I did move Home to the sda3 partition I would just need to learn how to mount that partition on startup right?
[01:36] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:to do so, ensure in gparted sda3 is ext 3 or 4, afterward just hae to alter fstab
[01:36] <matelot> can "ls" ignore case ?
[01:36] <UbuntuFish> erisco: we would need the name of the package, and other info to help
[01:36] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, fstab. Ill google it. sda3 is ext4 I have it partitioned atm
[01:37] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:and copy over the content of old /home o course
[01:37] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: *formatted
[01:37] <matelot> can "ls" ignore case ?
[01:37] <DasEi> matelot: no
[01:37] <JpMaxMan> I have tried netstat / lsof - I am running darkstat and can see the outgoing connection just can't identify what process is initiating it
[01:37] <erisco> UbuntuFish, libglib2.0-0 I have the latest version from jaunty but I need the latest version from karmic. I grabbed the .deb from karmic but cannot install because it evidently breaks the dependency
[01:38] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: k, so is sda3 mounted now ? (mount in trml tells you) ?
[01:38] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: quick question, in say a terminal, if I wanted to accsess my Home directory would I still just type cd /home
[01:38] <Samp> When I was almost out of HDD space, an option showed up that let visualized the hard drive's usage. I've googled a bit and can't find what it is...
[01:38] <Samp> this was in ubuntu 9.10
[01:38] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: yes sda3 has been mounted, it require d a password to mount.
[01:38] <neothecat> hello.  has anyone have any major issues with using 64 bit?  such as virtualbox, Urban terror, etc?
[01:38] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: if you open a trml as regualar user you are in your home
[01:38] <afroman> anybody uses oss?
[01:38] <DasEi> like /home/tom
[01:39] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ah ok
[01:39] <atomfox> what file do I need to edit so I could run applications on during starup?
[01:39] <UbuntuFish> !libglib2.0-0
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> neothecat, Virtualbox works fine for me on 64bit, can't speak about Urban Terror (other games certainly run fine on 64bit for me)
[01:39] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: we can put this through in 20 min, if youre up to
[01:39] <erisco> neohashi, I run urt on 64 bit
[01:40] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Sure, that sounds great.
[01:40] <UbuntuFish> !graphical disc map | samp
[01:40] <neothecat> for me, on certain boxes, virtualbox runs great, on others, it brings down the whole box to a crawl, but i did not have this probelm in 32 bit
[01:40] <erisco> UbuntuFish, and uninstalling libglib2.0-0 first is no option because it wants to remove the 1.5GB of dependencies
[01:40] <mathew> ubuntufish: i took another screenshot with facebook, but censored names, so you can see the problem, and frostwires up too
[01:40] <DasEi> !brain > UbuntuFish
[01:40] <atomfox> ubottu, what file do I need to edit to include programs running during my startup?
[01:40] <atomfox> ubottu, thanks
[01:40] <DasEi> UbuntuFish: to try , /query ubottu
[01:40] <UbuntuFish> ok i am going to stop querying ubottu, im sure its annoying everyone
[01:41] <trevor> what is the command to install kde on top of gnome. i thought it was sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop???
[01:41] <UbuntuFish> sorry everyone :(
[01:41] <Samp> lol alt+f1 > apps > disk usage analyzer
[01:41] <bazhang> UbuntuFish, fine to query, just no need to add nonsense factoids
[01:41] <atechz> can anyone gave me a good website for  Pidgin, newbie thanks
[01:41] <Awesome3000> !UbuntuFish
[01:41] <UbuntuFish> samp: there is a useful app called graphical disk map in the ubuntu software centre
[01:41] <blakkheim> atechz: pidgin.im
[01:41] <mathew> ubuntufish: its fine, look how many questions i've asked you i took another screenshot with facebook, but censored names, so you can see the problem, and frostwires up too
[01:41] <DasEi> UbuntuFish: its alright to learn, but do it in a pm then and READ the info beforehand
[01:42] <UbuntuFish> matew: ok, can  i see a link
[01:42] <UbuntuFish> ?
[01:42] <bazhang> trevor, yes that is right
[01:42] <trevor> it says package not found
[01:42] <mathew> ubuntufish: http://bit.ly/702k3m
[01:42] <UbuntuFish> dasei: lol i didn't know how to do pms
[01:42] <bazhang> trevor, any typo?
[01:42] <trevor> also, how can i install firefox 3.6 on ubuntu 9.10?
[01:42] <UbuntuFish> but i figured it out no worries
[01:42] <Awesome3000> ./msg ubottu !ubottu
[01:43] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: open trml..
[01:43] <bazhang> trevor, not in the repos, you would need to install yourself from mozilla and it wont be supported here
[01:43] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: open
[01:43] <DasEi> UbuntuFish: /query ubottu
[01:43] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: cd
[01:43] <argued> trevor: you can just unpack it to your /home and run the firefox file
[01:43] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: where to?
[01:43] <UbuntuFish> matew: not gonna lie, i think thats a fine font size.  btw do you have like a really huge display?
[01:43] <ZykoticK9> trevor, see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[01:44] <afroman> how do I get to sound preferences with oss4?
[01:44] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: just cd, no args
[01:44] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: mount
[01:44] <trevor> eh, i will just use chrome
[01:44] <UbuntuFish> matew: in firefox you can change the font size of a webpage by holding down control and scrolling
[01:44] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: where is sda3 mounted ?
[01:44] <arghh2d2> chrome +1
[01:44] <planet8> I have downloaded the Ubuntu-Moblin-Remix image and have tried to put unto my usb drive using "dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/bar", but the usb wont boot. What am I doing wrong?
[01:44] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: file:///media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:45] <afroman> anybody uses oss4??
[01:45] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: sudo chown -R TomOrwahteverusernamehere /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:45] <UbuntuFish> arghh2d2: chrome ftw its the best!
[01:46] <arghh2d2> UbuntuFish: indeed
[01:46] <neothecat> yeah, i am loving chrome so much more then firefox and opera.
[01:46] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: replace above with actual used username on that sys
[01:46] <mathew> i know that... but the chaat box at the bottom stays th same... and EVERYTHING jumbles
[01:46] <derrty> chrome is the shit
[01:46] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok
[01:46] <derrty> even though it does have a tracker in it
[01:46] <Awesome3000> !language
[01:46] <arghh2d2> *nods and grins*
[01:46] <derrty> sorta
[01:47] <derrty> sorry
[01:47] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Ok, its done. No notifications or anything in the terminal.
[01:47] <UbuntuFish> sorry to talk about other users, especially when they are offline, but did anyone else get spammed by this guy called heavenRaiser?
[01:47] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: used this command - sudo chown -R tom /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:47] <mathew> i did lol, apperentally he hate blacks
[01:47] <planet8> come on people.. dd if of this image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/releases/9.10/release/, why doesn't it work?
[01:48] <erisco> UbuntuFish, don't be sorry, and yes
[01:48] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:k,  rsync -P ~  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:48] <iluminator101> how do i turn notebook power off in ubuntu -255 something?
[01:48] <arghh2d2> UbuntuFish: no, i wish!
[01:48] <mac9416> Is there some sort of file selection dialog app that comes with Ubuntu that will return the selected file's path?
[01:48] <JpMaxMan> can anyone help me w/ identifying suspicious network traffic on an Ubuntu server?  I need to be able to tell what process is initiating the outgoign connections I am seeing.
[01:49] <iluminator101> how do i turn notebook power off in ubuntu -255 something?
[01:49] <UbuntuFish> is there any sorta banning type thing?  cuz he was saying all sorts of racist stuff, btw how does this channel stay so "clean"?
[01:49] <Skullcandy23> @jpMaxMan try Wireshark
[01:49] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: rsync -P ~  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141 - Respones: sent 8 bytes  received 12 bytes  40.00 bytes/sec
[01:49] <ubuntuUserTom> total size is 0  speedup is 0.00
[01:49] <DasEi> JpMaxMan: netsta, htop,ethercap btw sniff
[01:49] <ZykoticK9> mac9416, you'd usually use "whereis PROGRAMYOURLOOKINGFOR" in a terminal will tell full path or "which PROG"
[01:49] <web1109> I would like to video chat between karmic and windows. What protocol and clients should I choose? Must be free. Must be open source on the linux side.
[01:49] <UbuntuFish> like how do they keep popular channels like this from getting spammed out?
[01:49] <cba123> Is it just me, or does there seem not to be a 64bit version of firefox 3.6?
[01:49] <mathew> ubuntufish: he told me he made a forum that i should join if i hate african americas
[01:50] <mac9416> ZykoticK9, thanks for the tip, but this is what I was looking for: http://library.gnome.org/users/zenity/stable/zenity-file-selection-options.html.en  I had no idea Zenity was that flexible.
[01:50] <UbuntuFish> web1109: you could use emesene to do msn chat, thats all i can think of right now
[01:50] <dekkong> Hello! i'm thinking of getting a usb 100mb wlan card.Is there anywhere I can see what brands ubuntu supports ?
[01:50] <UbuntuFish> matew: let's have a FLAME WAR WITH HIM!!!!  just kidding everyone, lets not have a flame war.
[01:50] <UbuntuFish> flame wars suck
[01:50] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:sry, my bad ,  rsync -P -r  /home/tom  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:50] <ultraparadigm> I can't seem to run anything with Wine
[01:51] <Pici> mathew, UbuntuFish: That person has been banned from the network, so lets get back to Ubuntu support.  #ubuntu-offtopic exists for general non-support chatter
[01:51] <ultraparadigm> Is Wine supposed to work on 64bit Ubuntu, or does it only work on 32bit Ubuntu with 32bit windows applications?
[01:51] <JpMaxMan> @Skullcandy23 can wireshark from a command line tell me what process / program is intitiating the connection?
[01:51] <foormea> hi hi
[01:51] <mathew> ubuntufish: back to the web browser thing i kow you can change font sizes but the chat box at the bottom stays the same... and EVERYTHING jumbles
[01:51] <UbuntuFish> pici: they were banned?  that was fast
[01:51] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: lsof -i is your friend
[01:51] <DasEi> ultraparadigm: 64 is fine, too
[01:52] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, something is happening
[01:52] <web1109> UbuntuFish: which among the protocols supported by karmic is the most open AND has a client on windows?
[01:52] <Awesome3000> !hi | foormea
[01:52] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: yes I tried netstat / lsof
[01:52] <ultraparadigm> DasEi, Do you know if I can run 32 bit applications with wine in 64bit Ubuntu?
[01:52] <UbuntuFish> web1109: i have no idea, i'll search around a bit
[01:52] <neothecat> if i purge pulse from my system, will can i just install also and everything will work automagically.  i do not like pulse, but i do not feeling spending a day fighting to ge sound working
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> ultraparadigm, yes
[01:52] <Pici> JpMaxMan: did you invoke them with sudo? netstat cannot show all process names unless it is run with sudo.
[01:52] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: but I don't think the process is "listening" it just initiates an outgoing connection
[01:52] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: 61%
[01:52] <UbuntuFish> matew: weird.  how big is your display (like in diagonalinches)
[01:52] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:should copy a bunch of stuff, let it finish, look for any skippings (permission no standard user)
[01:52] <ultraparadigm> Thanks.  I'm not sure why nothing with run then. :-(
[01:52] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: lsof should still pickit up
[01:53] <justin_> whats the best dock for xfce?
[01:53] <DasEi> !wine | ultraparadigm
[01:53] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: unless of course your system has a rootkit
[01:53] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: skipping non-regular file "tom/.Private"
[01:53] <UbuntuFish> web1109: im guessing skype is not what your looking for
[01:53] <web1109> UbuntuFish: yeah has to be open source on linux side
[01:53] <ultraparadigm> Thanks!
[01:53] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: hmmm but wouldn't I have to hit it w/ lsof right when the connection is being initiated before it's closed?
[01:53] <iluminator101> how do i turn notebook power off in ubuntu -255 something?
[01:53] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:let it finish for now ..
[01:54] <JpMaxMan> Pici: yes, have sudo / root
[01:54] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, its nearly done I think.
[01:54] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: tcpdump is the CLI program you are after, it won't give you process info since none of that data exists in the packet
[01:54] <web1109> iluminator101: what is this -225
[01:54] <MindVirus> Hi. Does anyone know if Banshee has musicbrainz support.
[01:54] <UbuntuFish> web1109:  more ideas, here is a web based solution:  http://tinychat.com/
[01:54] <MindVirus> support?
[01:54] <iluminator101> 255 i meant
[01:55] <iluminator101> web1109 255 i meant
[01:55] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:sudo   rsync -P -r -u   /home/tom  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[01:55] <iluminator101> thats for full power
[01:55] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: I'm using darkstat and I can see the network traffic  - I guess what I want is somthing that monitors all processes and reports on any network activity from that process
[01:55] <mathew> 17'' im pretty sure
[01:55] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:shall take the rest
[01:55] <web1109> UbuntuFish: thanks that's flashbased tho, opensource flash on linux kinda sucks
[01:55] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: that is what lsof does
[01:55] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Its still copying a tone of stuff, ill give you a shout when its done.
[01:55] <UbuntuFish> web1109: yeah i tried it out, it failed
[01:56] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: it won't help if you have been rootkitted
[01:56] <ouyes> hi everybody , how to adjust the subtitle of smplay so the subtitle is seen in the very bottom of the movie( i mean in the black bar,now it is in the images)
[01:56] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:fine, can see from -P (progress)
[01:56] <DasEi> !info rsync
[01:56] <mathew> ubuntu fish: 17" im pretty sure
[01:56] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: ok, maybe I need to readup on lsof, I was using lsof -i tcp:8433
[01:57] <web1109> iluminator101: you talking about overclocking/underclocking or something?
[01:57] <UbuntuFish> web1109: how about google chat?
[01:57] <iluminator101> harddrive cycle thats what i am talking about
[01:57] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: that syntax looks good as long as you are using sudo
[01:57]  * matelot Anyone uses RCS ?
[01:57] <Awesome3000> !empathy | web1109
[01:58] <web1109> UbuntuFish: i don't know never tried any of them, I don't care for me, it's for parents
[01:58] <UbuntuFish> web1109: just curious why it has to be open source
[01:58] <dude> good monning everyone
[01:59] <web1109> UbuntuFish: so it crashes less =]
[01:59] <ubuntuUserTom> web1109: good call
[01:59] <UbuntuFish> web1109: open source doesn't always mean less crashy
[01:59] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: yup I am, but the connection will happen in a quick burst - like I'll see an outgoing connection of 120bytes to host-89-107-226-178.dgn.net.tr port 8433
[01:59] <web1109> Awesome3000: yeah I'm kinda leaning toward e
[01:59] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: then it is gone
[01:59] <beenbassin> Having some wine problems. I was trying to install wine 1.2 to install WOW, but now it appears as though I don't have wine, yet under applications there is still a spot for it. When I try sudo apt-get install wine in terminal I get: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[01:59] <beenbassin> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[01:59] <beenbassin> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[01:59] <beenbassin> or been moved out of Incoming.
[01:59] <beenbassin> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[01:59] <FloodBot1> beenbassin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <web1109> Awesome3000: yeah I'm kinda leaning toward empathy, but which protocol should I choose? that has a windows client
[01:59] <beenbassin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:59] <JpMaxMan> tmeganerd: this happens about periodically to various international IP / hosts
[02:00] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok its done
[02:00] <zetheroo> my firefox in Ubuntu is really using a lot of CPU resources .... why is that?
[02:00] <iluminator101> i tried this hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda but its not working
[02:00] <iluminator101> can someone please help me
[02:00] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:sudo   rsync -P -r -u   /home/tom  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[02:00] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: now performing rsync -P -r -u   /home/tom  /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141
[02:00] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:shall take the rest
[02:00] <web1109> UbuntuFish: also besided crashes, wanna keep the system binary blob free
[02:00] <meganerd> JpMaxMan: watch -n1 lsof -i TCP:8433
[02:00] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok thats done
[02:01] <ouyes> hi does anybody know this  hi everybody , how to adjust the subtitle of smplay so the subtitle is seen in the very bottom of the movie( i mean in the black bar,now it is in the images)
[02:01] <sdwrage> Hey all
[02:01] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:just to verify ...
[02:01] <sdwrage> any good Ubuntu software for streaming videos to my xbox?
[02:01] <bazhang> sdwrage, xbmc ?
[02:01] <JpMaxMan> meganerd: Aha! I think that's what I was looking for - thank you - I'll keep an eye on it to see if I can find the huckleberry
[02:01] <Awesome3000> web1109: see http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Protocols%20Support  for protocols supported
[02:01] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:cd /media/72af32b2-f0c5-4599-a477-aa8813581141/Desktop
[02:01] <sdwrage> bazhang, ill look into that
[02:01] <DasEi> ls
[02:01] <yester64> @sdwrage try pms linux
[02:02] <sdwrage> yester64, whats pms linux?
[02:02] <bazhang> sdwrage, xboxmediacentre should be a ppa for that
[02:02] <Awesome3000> !mediatomb | sdwrage
[02:02] <web1109> Awesome3000: thanks for the nice link
[02:02] <yester64> ps3 media manager.. works also for 360
[02:02] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:can you see your old desktop-files in ls ?
[02:02] <yester64> very easy to setup
[02:02] <sdwrage> !info mediatomb
[02:02] <MindVirus> Hi. Does anyone know if Banshee has MusicBrainz support?
[02:02] <beenbassin> Trying to install wine, after having thought I removed it, get the following from terminal after sudo apt-get install : Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependen
[02:02] <beenbassin> cies:  wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[02:03] <sdwrage> so ... much... software...
[02:03] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: umm it dosent exist, but im looking @ nautilius right now (currently viewing the mounted drive) and it has 'tom' and within 'tom it has 'Desktop'
[02:03] <web1109> Awesome3000: so it looks like goole talk vs SIP, which has more traction/openness? (<-- is googling)
[02:03] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: I can CD to Desktop no problems
[02:04] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: and in Desk.. your files, fine then
[02:04] <yester64> mediatomb does not transcode i think
[02:04] <UbuntuFish> web1109: empathy has video chat support, you just have to choose the protocol.  tahts all i can think of, srry
[02:04] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: yes =) thank you for the help!
[02:04] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: still few steps ..
[02:04] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: oh, fstab and stuff?
[02:04] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:04] <dthmnk> Hi, I'm having a really strange problem... so far I've only been able to replicate it with Firefox (Ubuntu 9.1/Firefox 3.5)
[02:04] <bazhang> MindVirus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MusicBrainz this says yes
[02:05] <MindVirus> bazhang: Do you know how I can enable it?
[02:05] <Awesome3000> web1109 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Talk
[02:05] <dthmnk> everytime i open a website with some sort of flash on it, my next keystroke for some reason registers multileple times
[02:05] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: scroll down to a new line, add the line
[02:05] <bazhang> MindVirus, not sure, possibly a plugin, dont use banshee myself
[02:05] <dthmnk> IE: I open youtube, and I hit ctrl+t for a new tab... like 15 tabs will open
[02:06] <YuXy> http://www.pastebin.org/80025 - does anyone know what im missing to compile this
[02:06] <DasEi> /dev/sda3  /home   ext4  user,auto,rw,exec           0      0
[02:06] <dthmnk> or I go to type something, and I hit "i", it'll type "i' 15 times
[02:06] <zetheroo> is it normal for Firefox to be using so much CPU resource?
[02:06] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: saw above ?
[02:06] <MindVirus> bazhang: I am trying to find it.
[02:06] <sdwrage> yester64, it doesnt?
[02:06] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Yes, I have added it.
[02:06] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEI: Save?
[02:06] <Awesome3000> zetheroo: Firefox can be quite a hog
[02:06] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: save
[02:07] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: close
[02:07] <yester64> i tried once and it did not work
[02:07] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Ok
[02:07] <SirTopHat> I tried to apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev but I saw I had unmet dependencies, so I apt-get build-dep'd it, but that returned this
[02:07] <SirTopHat> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_dapper_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[02:07] <yester64> here is the page for the ps3 app http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/downloads/list
[02:07] <sdwrage> yester64, so wait... you want me to get the PS3 streaming app to use with xbox 360?
[02:07] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: sudo mount -a
[02:07] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: well yeah ... but this is a bit too much  ... I mean its like I am transcoding video or soemthing
[02:07] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: second
[02:07] <yester64> yes, it does work. i use it all the time... it only has basics for the 360 but works
[02:07] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: back to trml
[02:07] <yester64> its a java app
[02:07] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: yes
[02:07] <hiexpo> firefox is a hog but once it gets going it works good
[02:08] <UbuntuFish> bye everyone i got to go!!
[02:08] <Awesome3000> zetheroo how much is it using
[02:08] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: cd    , and close nautilus (/media..) if still open
[02:08] <yester64> i tried ushare (did work to 60%) but this works best.
[02:08]  * Awesome3000 is sad to see UbuntuFish go
[02:08] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: sudo umount /dev/sda3
[02:08] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: spikes to over 110%
[02:09] <Awesome3000> zetheroo: WHAT
[02:09] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: umount: /home: device is busy.
[02:09] <ubuntuUserTom>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[02:09] <ubuntuUserTom>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[02:09] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: and my CPU then is running at about 65 - 68 degrees Cel
[02:10] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: for work, we should be done now, yes I did the mistake missing sda3 unmount first, well..
[02:10] <dragondon> greetings all, looking for some assistance on setting up MythTV....
[02:10] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: I mean I do have about 15 tabs open ... but still ... nothing with heavy duty multimedia going
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> dragondon:  thers the #mythbuntu channel
[02:10] <bisong> Is any body here?
[02:10] <dragondon> cool, thanks Dr_Willis
[02:10] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: I think I'll start looking for a lightweight browser ... :)
[02:10] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Would a restart fix it?
[02:11] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: situation is you got to reboot, if that gives errors, you can still comment the last line in fstab out (by #), yes, as /home is mounted now
[02:11] <Awesome3000> zetheroo: I'd suggest Google Chrome
[02:11] <hiexpo> opera is pretty good for light weight
[02:11] <SirTopHat> I tried to apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev but I saw I had unmet dependencies, so I apt-get build-dep'd it, but that returned this
[02:11] <SirTopHat> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_dapper_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[02:11] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Ok I will restart now, ill come back and give you a report on how it went. BBS
[02:11] <zetheroo> Awesome3000: yeah .. thought of that too ... and Opera is nice too
[02:11] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: let me look at your fstab before reboot
[02:11] <zetheroo> hiexpo: yes
[02:12] <MindVirus> Does anyone know how to use MusicBrainz with Banshee?
[02:12] <SirTopHat> is libgtk2 just impossible to have here
[02:12] <bazhang> SirTopHat, that repos is long gone I suspect
[02:12] <SirTopHat> hm
[02:12] <Awesome3000> zetheroo: I'm running opera at the moment
[02:12] <web1109> zetheroo: +1 on chrome, i'm on chromium dev ppa, 10x faster then firefox =]
[02:13] <DasEi> web1109: very fast, but on some content still buggy
[02:13]  * kaolbrec can attest to that
[02:13] <web1109> DasEi: i saw few bad sites, nothing showstopping, you?
[02:14] <DasEi> web1109: yes, some "freaky flash /w external players f.e. , or stimes black screen
[02:14] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: ah, still alive
[02:14] <myeyespy> how do I install firefox 3.6 release and not a daily build?
[02:15] <web1109> DasEi: out of firefox, epiphany(webkit), midory, links2 (lol) i like chrome best, what do you use?
[02:15] <Out_Cold> myeyespy, is there a 3.6.deb?
[02:15] <DasEi> myeyespy: look at heir hp for a deb or source
[02:15] <charliebrown> anybody know how to get xbox 360 controller working in ubuntu 9+
[02:15] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: Yeah =P Only error I got was a Space Shortage error lol...in root
[02:16] <DasEi> web1109: depends on purpose
[02:16] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: But....Home has been enlarged
[02:16] <DasEi> web1109: chrome,ff,opera, epiphany..
[02:16] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: 85gig now =D I think its just roots a little small?
[02:16] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: open trml
[02:16] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, opened
[02:17] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: df -h
[02:17] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f55371231
[02:18] <web1109> DasEi: so um opera is not in standard repos?
[02:18] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: k, short on root is k for now... , I suggest the following ..
[02:18] <f1lt3r> i have a REALLY weird apache2 permission error that should not even exist!!!!!
[02:18] <f1lt3r> HEEELP!!!!!!!!
[02:18] <Awesome3000> http://www.opera.com/
[02:19] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r??
[02:19] <f1lt3r> Out_Cold, i have a 3 directories in root...
[02:19] <f1lt3r> all with the same permissions
[02:19] <n16h7f0x> where can i read the changelog for last xorg-core last update?
[02:19] <Out_Cold> which are>
[02:19] <Out_Cold> *?
[02:20] <f1lt3r> and the "javascript" directory says @no permission@ in the browser
[02:20] <f1lt3r> drwxr-xr-x 2 f1lt3r f1lt3r
[02:20] <f1lt3r> so i have /var/ww/js/, /var/www/javascript/, /var/www/test/
[02:20] <Awesome3000> web1109  http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-i386&ver=10.10&local=y
[02:20] <f1lt3r> and the javascript dir is permission denied
[02:21] <bubba_> can anyone help me with an ALSA on karmic question? (card is SB X-FI USB)?
[02:21] <f1lt3r> now... here's where it gets really weird Out_Cold
[02:21] <_schism_> evening all
[02:21] <charliebrown> ubuntu doesn't support xbox 360 wired controller...lame
[02:21] <Awesome3000> f1lt3r  do you own all 3 folders
[02:21] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: you still have to delete the old /home, you can do it by (for one reboot) alter fstab back to old status (just put an # in front of last line,reboot) to give the space free to / , but first try not to use any more space in /  to see a day if all went well, before killing old one,  can delete uneeded packages and o course emty trash
[02:21] <f1lt3r> yeah i do!
[02:21] <DasEi> !trash
[02:21] <Awesome3000> charliebrown: why do you say that
[02:21] <arghh2d2> charliebrown: yeah, totally, ubuntu FAIL
[02:21] <_schism_> I have an odd problem.  My server is booting with an odd error about a users dir not being owned by that user. how do I fix that?
[02:22] <charliebrown> cuz it doesn't...older kernels do
[02:22] <charliebrown> but not ubuntu 9+
[02:22] <f1lt3r>  sudo chown f1lt3r www/ -R
[02:22] <arghh2d2> charliebrown: yeah man screw progress!
[02:22] <f1lt3r> from within var
[02:22] <sdwrage> whats the command to restart GNOME?
[02:22] <f1lt3r> and still 'Forbidden' in localhost/javascript
[02:22] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: alright, ill see how it goes. Thanks for your help mate, I really appreciate it!
[02:22] <web1109> ok so opera is a binary blob, is it on its way out from linux or do people really desire it?
[02:23] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom:you now just have about 6 gig for /, but if we delete it know.. its gone forever
[02:23] <DasEi> now*
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> web1109:  opera is still very popular
[02:23] <YuXy> http://www.pastebin.org/80025 - does anyone know what im missing to compile this
[02:23] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, let me get this right. It denies you when you try to open in nautilus or web browser?
[02:23] <DasEi> web1109: no, can add an foreign repo for that
[02:23] <f1lt3r> web browser
[02:23] <web1109> Dr_Willis: but it can't be forked, extended and so forth.. so it's gonna get surpassed soon no?
[02:23] <DasEi> sdwrage: sudo gdm restart
[02:24] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, perhaps because the web browser uses a different user to access your folder?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> web1109:  it hasent in the last few years... so i dont think so.
[02:24] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: are applications installed by default in the root directory, or one of its supfolders?
[02:24] <f1lt3r> which user?
[02:24] <f1lt3r> root?
[02:24] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, i highly doubt it's root
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> web1109:  opera still does a lot of innovation and other browsers often  take features from it.
[02:24] <f1lt3r> yeah
[02:24] <f1lt3r> well i have 3 identical builds
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> web1109:  bottom line - use it if you want.. or not. :)
[02:24] <f1lt3r> and it is a problem on 2
[02:24] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: yes, not in /home  , /usr and its subdirs mainly, also under /
[02:25] <f1lt3r> and the only diff with the working one, is that i never uploaded some website i was working on
[02:25] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, i would adjust the permissions to 777 just and keep lowering the permissions till you find out what's up
[02:25] <hardworkr> how can i reset my passwork
[02:25] <charliebrown> opera FTW, unfortunately i have codependency issues with firefox extensions...opera is awesome
[02:25] <f1lt3r> so i'm guessing that the php fed up something
[02:25] <web1109> Dr_Willis: yea i hear about opera innovating here and there, i'll try it out on test machine
[02:25] <f1lt3r> i tried 777 already :-/
[02:25] <DasEi> hardworkr: still on that ??
[02:25] <DasEi> hardworkr: man passwd
[02:25] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, no access on 777???? that's no good
[02:25] <Newbuntu2> I'd like to create a backup shared drive on my network - got two identical 1TB drives, and was planning to do a software raid1. However, I'd like to be able to recover the data if the computer/system drive itself crashes, and easily move the drives. Would it be better to just rsync the drives every few minutes? I don't care for performance...
[02:25] <f1lt3r> i know!
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> web1109:  ive rarely had any issues with oprea. i jsut tend to uise firefox.. but google chrome is slowly gaining poplarity with me
[02:26] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok, well its not a problem now because my system is set up with all the Development tools I need...but it might become a problem later down the track, when it does i will probably just reinstall Ubuntu, partitioning it correctly this time.
[02:26] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, maybe try sudo chmod -r 777 /var/www/*
[02:26] <Awesome3000> charliebrown: see http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57304
[02:26] <f1lt3r> kk trying
[02:26] <usser> Newbuntu2, raid is not a backup solution :)
[02:26] <sdwrage> DasEi, didnt work
[02:27] <sdwrage> wasnt there a way with killall?
[02:27] <f1lt3r> no that didnt work Out_Cold
[02:27] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, refresh your browser?
[02:27] <f1lt3r> oh *
[02:27] <f1lt3r> one sec
[02:27] <web1109> lol i'm getting browser sidetracked... for SIP there are servers which I have to setup and account with?
[02:27] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: nah, have a look now a day or two, then reboot once with "old fstab, delete everything you can from /home, re-alter fstab, reboot, be done
[02:27] <f1lt3r> not sorking with * either
[02:27] <f1lt3r> breaks on every browser
[02:28] <Newbuntu2> usser: so would you suggest mounting one drive on the network, and have the other regularly rsyncing? or is there a better way?
[02:28] <f1lt3r> chrome
[02:28] <f1lt3r> firefox, opera etc
[02:28] <Out_Cold> can you pm me your ls -l /var/www ?
[02:28] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: ok =D I will do that then.
[02:28] <usser> Newbuntu2, rsync works for me. not gonna be hot swappable though. you really need raid+rsync
[02:29] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  , the # in front of line makes it a non-executed comment
[02:29] <hardworkr1> yes i need the link again to reset my password i gave up last night
[02:29] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: alright, ill do that soon then =D
[02:29] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: so you can edit (delete) all the old stuff from home then
[02:29] <DasEi> have fun .. and soace
[02:29] <hardworkr1> need to know how to reset my password on ubuntu
[02:29] <Newbuntu2> usser: that's ok - don't care about hot swappable  - more about being able to unplug the drive and take it with me on trips
[02:29] <DasEi> space
[02:30] <hardworkr1> does anyone have the link again
[02:30] <Newbuntu2> usser: and have a safe backup at home...
[02:30] <DasEi> sdwrage: what are you trying ?
[02:30] <CVirus> How can I prevent a user from mounting USB disks ?
[02:30] <sdwrage> DasEi, to refresh my menu items
[02:30] <sdwrage> I used to know how to do it
[02:30] <usser> Newbuntu2, yea sure it will work
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> hardworkr1:  boot to single/rescue mode or live cd.. chroot in, (if needed use  passwd command as needed) Ive never seen a link for a guide
[02:30] <Billiard> hardworkr1: use the recovery option from the boot menu, use the "passwd <username>" command
[02:33] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: where was fstab located again?
[02:33] <helper> hey guys! can someone ping for me: 212.40.152.195 , is there any reply? thx
[02:33] <DasEi> ubuntuUserTom: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  , the # in front of line makes it a non-executed comment
[02:33] <DasEi> /etc/fstab
[02:33] <ubuntuUserTom> DasEi: cheers
[02:33] <DasEi> burp
[02:33] <blakkheim> s/gksudo gedit/sudo vi
[02:34] <aspidites> ubuntuUserTom: /etc/fstabe
[02:34] <Myke1> Hey Fellow Ubuntuites :)
[02:34] <usser> helper, scanning...
[02:34] <aspidites> ubuntuUserTom: future reference, you can use locate to find a file. "sudo udpatedb && locate file_name
[02:34] <helper> usser ?
[02:34] <aspidites> er.. and that should have been /etc/fstab
[02:34] <zetheroo> Myke1: is that a word? :P
[02:35] <afroman> helper: whose ip is that?
[02:35] <afroman> helper: I got nothing. 100% loss
[02:35] <helper> afroman my ip! thx =)
[02:35] <DasEi> helper  no response
[02:35] <helper> afroman just testing my firewall
[02:35] <Myke1> lol just made it up
[02:36] <zetheroo> helper: dead
[02:36] <afroman> helper: np. now U know U r safe I guess :). what is ur firewall?
[02:36] <usser> helper, up
[02:36] <blakkheim> !u | afroman
[02:37] <usser> helper, Interesting ports on 212.40.152.195: 135/tcp filtered msrpc
[02:37] <helper> usser thx for nmap =)
[02:38] <usser> helper, no problem
[02:38] <hardworkr> who has a link to ubuntu for password help yes i know i keep asking but my lap top kps shutting down
[02:38] <Out_Cold> hardworkr, just type passwd in a terminal
[02:39] <arom> helper do you whant to get a openvas scan ?
[02:39] <hardworkr> ive tried that
[02:39] <afroman> anybody using oss4?
[02:39] <Out_Cold> hardworkr, and what happens?
[02:40] <hardworkr> nothing i have a mini dell lap top and its driving me crazy. i need to reset my password someone changed it and wont give it to me
[02:40] <hardworkr> how do i even reboot this crap
[02:40] <foormea> hey, does ubuntu generates menus automatically for fluxbox or enlightenment, or does the user have to edit menus manually for these 2 DMs?
[02:40] <Out_Cold> oh.... hardworkr then you need to boot off live usb and then as root, adjust the password
[02:41] <Out_Cold> foormea, flux has generated menus
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> 'someone changed it' makes me wonder what else they may have done.
[02:41] <foormea> Out_Cold: ok, thanks
[02:41] <hardworkr> exactly my point
[02:41] <Out_Cold> hardworkr, let this be a lesson... don't ever share your password with anyone.....
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> hardworkr:  sounds like time to do a reinstall then
[02:42] <Out_Cold> hardworkr, i agree with Dr_Willis
[02:42] <IdleOne> hardworkr: reinstall
[02:42] <hardworkr> it was my husband that changed it lol
[02:42] <Out_Cold> safest and fastest way to fix it
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> tell him to change it back then
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Or hes sleeping on the couch for the next year.
[02:42] <IdleOne> hardworkr: lol well then just hit him after he falls asleep
[02:42] <tweaksource>  foormea - All three of those have menus
[02:42] <Daemonic> The touchpad on my laptop is messed up. About every five to ten minutes I lose the ability to interact with X. I can mouse the cursor but I cannot click. I use and external usb mouse. Is there an easy way to totaly disable the touchpad?
[02:43] <tweaksource> Daemonic, Try tpconfig
[02:43] <Out_Cold> Daemonic, you used to be able to disable it in xorg.conf but not sure if that's the way to do now
[02:43] <Daemonic> Out_Cold, its not configured in xorg.conf
[02:43] <afroman> does anybody know how to use hdmi for sound with oss4?
[02:43] <Daemonic> I checked
[02:44] <blakkheim> afroman: why not use alsa?
[02:44] <militant> does doing an install from usb add files to the stick?  in very large amounts?
[02:44] <Out_Cold> militant, it shouldn't add any files if you are installing to a hdd
[02:44] <fredoslack> Hello
[02:44] <Daemonic> tweaksource, I only see options to configure the touchpad with tpconfig. I don't see anything about how to disable it entirely.
[02:44] <hardworkr> he doesnt remember what he changed it to
[02:44] <hardworkr> lol
[02:44] <tweaksource> militant, Installing FROM usb should add NO files.
[02:45] <hardworkr> so now im stuck
[02:45] <militant> Out_Cold, hmmm ok.  kuz i did one today on my brother's netbook and now the stick has no free space despite usually having 2gb leftover
[02:45] <fredoslack> How can I get
[02:45] <FunicularGoat> Any Gwibber users here?
[02:45] <fredoslack> the small yellow heads on Xchat ?
[02:45] <afroman> blakkheim: it didn't work with alsa & ati open driver
[02:45] <fredoslack> Like Xchat ' Windows ?
[02:45] <f1lt3r> Out_Cold, i restarted.... still wont let me create /var/www/javascript
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> hardworkr:  youve been told to use a lvie cd to change it.. or reinstall. so good luck I guess..   or slap the guy around till he rembers.
[02:45] <Out_Cold> hardworkr, reinstall from scratch or boot off of usb or live cd, then adjust the password from there
[02:45] <blakkheim> afroman: ati is the enemy of your freedom
[02:45] <hardworkr> ok i will try thannks
[02:45]  * Dr_Willis avoides ATI from now on
[02:46] <afroman> blakkheim: too bad I can't do much about it... I have a laptop
[02:46] <IdleOne> fredoslack: http://xchat.org/faq/#q224
[02:46] <f1lt3r> ok, so i chowned www/
[02:46] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, is the /var a separate partition??
[02:46] <f1lt3r> it then let me create /var/www/javascript/
[02:46] <f1lt3r> but permissino denied in browser
[02:46] <f1lt3r> Out_Cold, no same partition
[02:46] <IdleOne> fredoslack: not available on xchat for linux
[02:47] <fredoslack> IdleOne, << This feature is only available in the official Windows XChat release >>
[02:47] <fredoslack> :(
[02:47] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, chown it to root:f1lt3r???
[02:47] <IdleOne> fredoslack: thank goodness I say :)
[02:47] <fredoslack> :'(
[02:47] <f1lt3r> trying
[02:47] <afroman> blakkheim: can U help?
[02:47] <blakkheim> afroman: no i can't, ati is very poor in linux
[02:47] <tweaksource> fredoslack, Me too. Silly little yellow heads...
[02:47] <CAPcap> where can i see what usb devices i have connected?
[02:47] <f1lt3r> forbidden in browswer
[02:47] <blakkheim> CAPcap: lsusb
[02:48] <Out_Cold> CAPcap, in the browser they are usually mounted in /media or /mnt
[02:48] <charliebrown> awesome3000: thx for the link, regarding xbox 360 controller, but i'm not sure all of this will make the controller work, or just in xbmc?
[02:48] <Daemonic> All I need is to disable my laptops touchpad entirely. I have googled for hours and cannot find an answer.
[02:48] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, did you restart apache?
[02:48] <CAPcap> thanks out_cold
[02:48] <f1lt3r> i restarted my whole system
[02:48] <Daemonic> xorg.conf doesn't help. tpconfig doesn't help. wtf?
[02:48] <Out_Cold> i meant after the latest chown?
[02:49] <f1lt3r> no
[02:49] <f1lt3r> trying
[02:49] <IdleOne> !touchpad | Daemonic
[02:49] <militant> hmmm the usb stick is showing far more used than the files on it (with hiddens shown) account for
[02:49] <f1lt3r> stil forbidden
[02:49] <IdleOne> Daemonic: that  link should help
[02:49] <loops> Daemonic, on my laptop Fn -> function-key-7  shuts it off
[02:49] <tweaksource> Daemonic, the offending package should be xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:49] <Out_Cold> f1lt3r, maybe someone else has an idea... or try /join #apache
[02:50] <CAPcap> ok my camera (which works sometimes) isnt showing up there
[02:50] <Sorhan> evening all
[02:50] <loops> Daemonic, most laptops have a similar keystroke to shut it off
[02:50] <f1lt3r> ok thanks
[02:50] <Out_Cold> oh.. CAPcap you will find that in lsusb if it's mounted
[02:50] <Newbie001> :P howdy
[02:50] <Dimoutlook> Good evening
[02:50] <Daemonic> when I go to mouse under settings I have "Macintosh mouse button emulation" should that be there? I don't have a mac let alone a mac mouse.
[02:51] <loops> Daemonic, what model laptop do you have?
[02:51] <Sorhan> need some help, not able to browse windows machine on LAN, I can see one of the machines but not the other, can ping both
[02:51] <marcosRz> my opion on ubuntu horrible upgrade system --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387437
[02:51] <jiohdi> Daemonic: that means one button instead of two or more
[02:51] <Daemonic> loops, Vaio VGN-SZ660n
[02:51] <arom> I am used too gentoo guess there is no USE flags in ubuntu ?
[02:52] <CAPcap> ok my camera isnt really connecting... i cant seem to figure it out. cheese isnt recognizing it. it usually does
[02:52] <loops> Sorhan, probably misconfigured Samba on the machine you cant see
[02:52] <Dimoutlook> does anyone have trouble copying files off a usb flash drive
[02:52] <blakkheim> arom: nope, just generic, unoptimized, bloated binaries :(
[02:52] <Sorhan> loops, neither of them has Samba installed on them
[02:52] <fredoslack> tweaksource,  GN
[02:52] <jiohdi> Dimoutlook: not unless its corrupted
[02:52] <arghh2d2> arom: how'd you go from gentoo to ubuntu?
[02:52] <loops> Sorhan, ooops, misread
[02:52] <Out_Cold> marcosRz, imo upgrading by a fresh install and remounting old partitions is your best bet...
[02:53] <DJCharlie> Ok folks, last chance. I have X working on my TV-Out (i810 video), but it's "shaky-looking". My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/m263b0866 and the results of xrandr --verbose -q is here: http://pastebin.com/m7122b15a - So how do I fix it?
[02:53] <Sorhan> Samba on this machine, but not on either of the windows machines
[02:53] <mpavel> anybody got some experience with Nuxeo?
[02:53] <Dimoutlook> Ok thanks but its a new drive maby bad copy to the flash?
[02:53] <arom> blakkheim,  thanks
[02:54] <jiohdi> Dimoutlook: what can you see on it? anything?
[02:54] <kanster> hi
[02:54] <Sorhan> any Samba experts?
[02:54] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light won't come on.
[02:54] <arom> arghh2d2, I am now using backtrack4 it is buildt on ubuntu 8.10 but are thinking of try ubuntu
[02:54] <Dimoutlook> I can see and open files but cant copy to hard drive
[02:54] <kanster> How do I run .exe files?
[02:54] <jiohdi> Dimoutlook: what kind of error msg?
[02:54] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: No guarantees, but what's the problem?
[02:54] <mpavel> can anybody help me with some port forwarding stuff please?
[02:54] <Johnny_425> kanster: wine
[02:55] <dogmatix> My sound just stopped working, what can I do to troubleshoot?
[02:55] <jiohdi> kanster: wine
[02:55] <Johnny_425> kanster: try the beta version
[02:55] <marcosRz> Out_Cold: Like I said
[02:55] <Dimoutlook> none it just stops transfer and light gos out
[02:55] <marcosRz> Out_Cold:  clean install shoudn't be a option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1387437
[02:55] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light won't come on, please help
[02:55] <marcosRz> we can't talk about stability if we can't safe upgrade :P
[02:55] <Sorhan> DJ, unable to browse windows machines on LAN, can see 1 machine, but not the other
[02:55] <gdiz> hello everyone, I have an older dell that I am running ubuntu on.  I plugged it into my TV, and I am trying to watch hulu on it.  Occasionally it will run okay, but often times it will only run a frame or two per second as far as the video.  I don't believe it is a buffer issue because the buffer usually appears full.  I am trying to figure out how to optimize my system for this.  Any suggestions?
[02:55] <arom> mpavel, There i a great info on portforwarding on intenet
[02:56] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: Make sure all machines have the same workgroup name.
[02:56] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light won't come on.
[02:56] <Daemonic> ~# tpconfig -i
[02:56] <mpavel> arom: I need some more specific stuff, I've installed ubuntu server in VirtualBox
[02:56] <Daemonic> Found Synaptics Touchpad.
[02:56] <Daemonic> ~# synclient -l
[02:56] <Daemonic> Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
[02:56] <Out_Cold> marcosRz, agreed but it's the safest and easiest.... not sure if windows allows upgrading from xp>vista>7 without issues
[02:56] <mpavel> arom: and I installed Nuxeo on ubuntu
[02:56] <Daemonic> what the hell is going on here? why is it so god damn difficult to just disable the broken fucking thing. ARGH!!!
[02:56] <marcosRz> Out_Cold: oh yeah it does
[02:56] <phong_> hello
[02:56] <phong_> ;)
[02:56] <dogmatix> is there a command I can run to see what my sound settings are?
[02:56] <Sorhan> DJ, the windows machine can browse each other, both see this machine and can browse it, but it's not able to see one, or browse either
[02:56] <marcosRz> Out_Cold: By the way my friend upgraded OSX with a click :)
[02:56] <mpavel> arom: but I'm required to run Nuxeo at localhost:8080/nuxeo/
[02:56] <marcosRz> All went well and fine
[02:56] <phong_> ;)
[02:56] <marcosRz> ;)
[02:56] <FloodBot1> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <phong_> is kubuntu similar to ubuntu?
[02:57] <dogmatix> phong_ it's a different interface
[02:57] <jiohdi> phong its ubuntu with kde
[02:57] <phong_> yeah, but i think i love kubuntu more
[02:57] <loops> phong_, specifically KDE
[02:57] <mpavel> arom: however, I access ubuntu on port 8888 through http
[02:57] <phong_> kubuntu is nice
[02:57] <dogmatix> I can't stand kde personally
[02:57] <mpavel> arom: so i don't really know how to get Nuxeo to work
[02:57] <Out_Cold> marcosRz, well go pay for a solid mac friendly OSX :p
[02:57] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: pastebin.com your /etc/samba/smb.conf please.
[02:57] <mpavel> Johnny_425: open terminal, enter "xev"
[02:57] <gdiz> dogmatix, I am not sure what you are looking for, but I use aumix to control volume settings
[02:57] <Sorhan> DJ, ok gimme a few on that
[02:58] <marcosRz> Out_Cold: the thing is that
[02:58] <dogmatix> gdiz, I'm trying to figure out why I suddenly have no sound
[02:58] <marcosRz> a User Shoudn't even know about clean install
[02:58] <gdiz> oh...nevermind then
[02:58] <Dimoutlook> just had a suguestion to try the ports in the back of the computer will try that have to sign off to try that
[02:58] <valros> can anyone help set networking up in virtualbox?
[02:58] <Johnny_425> mpavel: now what?
[02:58] <marcosRz> thats not an option, when we talk about a "Human beings Distro"
[02:58] <phong_> yeah
[02:58] <phong_> ;)
[02:58] <jiohdi> dogmatix: some programs will turn the sound down... aumix is good to see this
[02:58] <arom> mpavel, do you want to portforward on your wifi router ?
[02:58] <mpavel> Johnny_425: press the caps key
[02:58] <Johnny_425> mpavel: I did
[02:58] <mpavel> arom: i've done that, so it works to connect to the ubuntu server
[02:58] <valros> or give a useful link
[02:58] <phong_> i like the kubuntu 'terminal ' console screen, it's looking nice black background
[02:59] <Johnny_425> mpavel: the light still won't come on
[02:59] <Out_Cold> marcosRz, well that's what you get when you switch to a free, open source OS.. several issues that need to be fixed, for free....
[02:59] <dogmatix> jiohdi, I'll run it and see what happens, but it was so abrupt I can't help but think it's something else
[02:59] <mpavel> Johnny_425: you need to take the code of the caps lock key
[02:59] <Daemonic> I cant even disable a broken touchpad without having to google for two days. no fucking wonder linux isn't a bigger contender in the market. what a piece of shit.
[02:59] <blakkheim> Daemonic: cry more
[02:59] <phong_> actually i'm running this linux under my vmware ;)
[02:59] <mpavel> Johnny_425: but I don't remember exactly in what file you should make changes, let me look for 2 minutes
[02:59] <bazhang> Daemonic, watch the language
[02:59] <phong_> i'm a  windows person, but love it   to run under vmware is nice ;)
[02:59] <DJCharlie> Daemonic: Linux is good for lots of things, but the support is decidedly lacking.
[02:59] <Johnny_425> mpavel: okay
[02:59] <Daemonic> I am
[02:59] <Daemonic> trust me
[03:00] <fredoslack> very lacking yes :(
[03:00] <Sorhan> DJ, http://pastebin.com/d1313db27
[03:00] <marcosRz> Out_Cold: so thats why I'm proposing a trying to help ppl with this horrible situation
[03:00] <mpavel> arom: but within ubuntu server I have tomcat running Nuxeo Document Management, which I have to run at http://localhost:8080/nuxeo/
[03:00] <dogmatix> yeah aumix isn't the answer
[03:00] <fredoslack> i think that ther will be a "sendback" system
[03:00] <buttons840> is flash 10 in the repos?
[03:00] <fredoslack> with 10.04 or 10.10
[03:01] <phong_> is it a good idea to run linux under vmware ?
[03:01] <fredoslack> ?
[03:01] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: First thing i see is that you haven't set a workgroup. You need to MAKE SURE all systems you're sharing with have that set.
[03:01] <mpavel> Johnny_425: what's the keycode for your caps lock key when you press it?
[03:01] <dogmatix> I wonder if an update broke something...
[03:01] <phong_> that way i can run 5 OSes at once.
[03:01] <Johnny_425> mpavel: 4294967216
[03:01] <aspidites> who needs 5 os's at once?
[03:01] <Sorhan> DJ, best way to set it in Samba's cfg
[03:01] <valros> seriously has anyone got internet working in virtualbox?
[03:01] <fredoslack> where on pourra faire des bugs ' rapports
[03:01] <tweaksource> phong_, Better to have a linux host and run the others in vmware.
[03:01] <kanster> Is Xubuntu supposed to not run .EXE files because it's designed for Linux?
[03:01] <dogmatix> valros, yeah I have
[03:01] <fredoslack> sorry for my english
[03:01] <valros> with NAT?
[03:01] <phong_> hahah tweaksource, unfortuately , i have it windows as a host... ;)
[03:02] <dogmatix> valros, oh, sorry thought you were talking about in general
[03:02] <aspidites> kanster: erm.. exe is windows only. can run a lot of them if you have wine installed though
[03:02] <jiohdi> kanster: xubuntu is just ubuntu with Xfce you can run it under wine
[03:02] <Johnny_425> kanster: yes
[03:02] <mpavel> Johnny_425: that doesn't look right, when you run xev, you should see "keycode: xx" which will change for every key
[03:02] <tweaksource> kanster, .exe's are Windows binary executables. No, the don't natively execute in Xubuntu
[03:02] <rww> ubottu: bugs | fredoslack
[03:02] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: Edit the smb.conf and change the line that says workgroup = workgroup to whatever your Win machines are set to.
[03:02] <fredoslack> rww,  thanks you :)
[03:02] <fredoslack> it's not really a bug, just a suggestion
[03:02] <phong_> oh my god, there is xubuntu?
[03:03] <rww> ubottu: brainstorm | fredoslack
[03:03] <phong_> darm it
[03:03] <fredoslack> une amélioration *
[03:03] <dogmatix> haha yeah
[03:03] <aspidites> are people finding vmware more stable than virtualbox or what?
[03:03] <phong_> how man ubuntu out there?
[03:03] <Sorhan> ok ... let's see if i can find that  ;)
[03:03] <phong_> dubuntu ?
[03:03] <dogmatix> technically linux mint is ubuntu
[03:03] <rww> fredoslack: There's also a French-language channel at #ubuntu-fr that might be helpful :)
[03:03] <phong_> mubuntu too ?
[03:03] <dogmatix> built on it
[03:03] <fredoslack> okkk tks for the link
[03:03] <Johnny_425> mpavel: 36
[03:03] <nomnex> how do I remove all the *~ in /home and its sub dirs? user@pc:~$ rm -r *~?
[03:03] <jiohdi> phong_: Xfce is similar to gnome but does not have as many features... tends to be lighter on the cpu
[03:03] <phong_> edubuntu i see that also
[03:04]  * fredoslack is posting
[03:04] <aspidites> nomnex: rm -r ./*~
[03:04] <fredoslack> )à
[03:04] <fredoslack> =)
[03:04] <jiohdi> phong there is also UNR for netbooks
[03:04] <phong_> why are there so many version of it
[03:04] <nomnex> aspidites, thanks
[03:04] <Out_Cold> marcosRz, not to diss your thread, but maybe you should put that in the brainstorm area instead of the forums... or both
[03:04] <phong_> i myself have use ubuntu, and kubuntu
[03:04] <aspidites> nomnex: assuming you are in home that is. if not, rm -r ~/*~
[03:04] <aspidites> nomnex: scratch that
[03:04] <phong_> which one is the main one? ubuntu ???
[03:05] <fredoslack> phong_,  KDE 4.4 will be nice, i think
[03:05] <nomnex> aspidites, I am, what's the "/"?
[03:05] <fredoslack> much more than 3.5 / 3.4
[03:05] <aspidites> nomnex: actually, no that was right ==> rm -r ~/*~
[03:05] <fredoslack> and than 4.3 :p
[03:05] <mpavel> can anyone give me a hand with some port forwarding stuff?
[03:05] <phong_> how do  i know my version?
[03:05] <aspidites> nomnex: the ~ is the same as $HOME
[03:05] <phong_> uname -r  ?
[03:05] <nomnex> aspidites, I see , thanks
[03:05] <fredoslack> phong_,  kde > help,
[03:05] <fredoslack> or similar
[03:06] <phong_> mine said: 2.6.31-17-generic
[03:06] <Out_Cold> mpavel, what is the device you are trying to forward on??
[03:06] <fredoslack> help, about, etc
[03:06] <frell> kde>help
[03:06] <fredoslack> phong_,  you have Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[03:06] <Flannel> phong_: lsb_release -a
[03:06] <fredoslack> Kubuntu *
[03:06] <phong_> i use kubuntu
[03:06] <phong_> now
[03:06] <phong_> but i also have ubuntu
[03:07] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: You also have no drives / directories shared.
[03:07] <fredoslack> phong_,  9.10 ?
[03:07] <phong_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[03:07] <phong_> Description:    Ubuntu 9.10
[03:07] <phong_> Release:        9.10
[03:07] <phong_> Codename:       karmic
[03:07] <aspidites> all these different spins make my head hurt
[03:07] <FloodBot1> phong_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <fredoslack> phong_,  you have KDE 4.3.?
[03:07] <Out_Cold> mpavel, what is the device you are trying to forward on??
[03:07] <jiohdi> phong, there is ldxe xfce openbox gnome and kde flavors and more :)
[03:07] <fredoslack> i thinks
[03:07] <mob> hey all ;] i got sound now .. but volumes really low in totem .. sliders @ max
[03:07] <phong_> how would i know?
[03:07] <mpavel> Out_Cold: the situation is more complex: i have ubuntu server running in virtual box, with port forwardin set up in my router for port 8888, and virtual box forwarding port 8888 as port 80 to ubuntu
[03:07] <fredoslack> phong_,  kde > help
[03:07] <Sorhan> DJ, there should be, it's shared off the desktop, able to browse from other machine
[03:07] <mpavel> Out_Cold: but I installed Nuxeo Document Management and in order to access it I have to run http://localhost:8080/nuxeo/
[03:08] <fredoslack> help, and About if existe
[03:08] <aspidites> mob: what shows in terminal? with alsamixer?
[03:08] <fredoslack> -e
[03:08] <Roasted> hey guys
[03:08] <mpavel> Out_Cold: now I don't really know how to get that done ...
[03:08] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: If you had anything shared, it'd be in the smb.conf
[03:08] <phong_> Version 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2)
[03:08] <Roasted> is there a way I can change the UUID of a hard drive besides reformatting it?
[03:08] <fredoslack> phong_,  ok
[03:08] <Sorhan> weird ... I do have a folder shared and browse-able ...
[03:08] <phong_> fredoslack should i stick with ubuntu ?
[03:08] <phong_> plain ubuntu
[03:08] <fredoslack> phong_,  4.4 should be better :}
[03:08] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: Locally, maybe. But not cross-systems
[03:08] <westmi> i've gotten updates for the last 3 days running
[03:08] <fredoslack> phong_,  a love Gnome,
[03:09] <fredoslack> it's very fonctionnel
[03:09] <fredoslack> but KDE is beautiful ...
[03:09] <westmi> is anyone else getting updates frequently lately?
[03:09] <rww> Roasted: try the second post of http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/948-change-uuid-ext3-partition.html , perhaps
[03:09] <fredoslack> it is a choice :)
[03:09] <Sorhan> DJ, regardless, i'm more worried about being able to access files on my windows system, not it being able to access this machine
[03:10] <phong_> how do i update to 4.4 ?
[03:10] <aspidites> Sorhan: ntfs fat or what?
[03:10] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: Sharing from Windows to Ubuntu is always a pain. Just a sec, I'll find you a link.
[03:10] <mob> terminal ??
[03:10] <Sorhan> aspi, the drives i want to browse should all be NTFS
[03:10] <Roasted> rww - thanks bro. Right when you responded I found on the ubuntu forums a command that was said to work. I already ran it and it works.... sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdX
[03:10]  * mob ubernoob
[03:10] <f1lt3r> Out_Cold, i uninstalled apache2 and reinstalled. Still no dice!
[03:10] <fredoslack> phong_,  with aptitude i don't know. But i think that Ubuntu 10.04 alpha 2
[03:10] <fredoslack> has got KDE 4.4 alpha
[03:11] <westmi> "Importaint Security Updates"
[03:11] <phong_> Version 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2)
[03:11] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html - There you go, step by step.
[03:11] <phong_> that is what i have
[03:11] <f1lt3r> anyone here running karmic?
[03:11] <phong_> but they have 4.4 RC1
[03:11] <phong_> how would i upgrade?
[03:11] <elitecoder> I'm looking for someone who's gotten L2TP/IPSec working on ubuntu. Any help? I've spent probably 6 or more hours on this and can't get a VPN working.
[03:11] <f1lt3r> Can someone try something for me in karmic with apache2 installed?
[03:11] <f1lt3r> I'm getting a weird error, i want to see if apache2 on karmic is broken.
[03:12] <phong_> 4.4 rc1 is not available for download yet ?
[03:12] <aspidites> filip: what's the error?
[03:12] <Sorhan> 'preciate it DJ, now if i can just save the modified smb.conf file
[03:12] <fredoslack> phong_,  i don't know how upgrade since 4.3 to 4.4RC sorry
[03:12] <cyberjorge> Hi , I need to change filenames automatically. Just need to put random numbers in the beginning of each filename to shuffle my music list in my mp3 player. How I do this automatically?
[03:12] <phong_> oh okay
[03:12] <DJCharlie> Sorhan, it's easy. sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:12] <f1lt3r> Can anyone here help me with a karmic apache2 problem?
[03:12] <dabukalam> i'm having a problem with installing lucid beta software on a jaunty server. Anyone experienced with repositories and sources?
[03:13] <Sorhan> DJ, no it's telling me i don't have rights to save the file
[03:13] <westmi> is anyone else getting updates frequently lately?
[03:13] <fredoslack> phong_,  you can too download Kubuntu Alpha 2  10.04  :)
[03:13] <westmi> i've gotten updates for the last 3 days running
[03:13] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: Open a terminal, and type sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:13] <westmi> "Importaint Security Updates"
[03:13] <soreau> mob: Open a terminal in Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type 'alsamixer' without quotes then press enter. There you can move the sliders with your arrow keys and toggle tracks on/off with 'm'
[03:14] <fredoslack> it's ce que je vais do tomorrow
[03:14] <DJCharlie> Sorhan: That will let you edit the smb.conf
[03:14] <fredoslack> i will download and install 10.04 tomorrow *
[03:14] <f1lt3r> Why can Karmic apache2 not server from a directory called /javascript/ ?
[03:14] <fredoslack> sorry for my poor english
[03:14] <killme> hi i need to know if there is any way to get a flv converter to an avi format to play the same quality in unbuntu 9.04 need help iv been trying most Linux post and still no luck iv got win-ff but the quality is blurred
[03:15] <Sorhan> ahhh ... i see now ... said the blind man
[03:15] <sekyourbox> can anyone here get onto hulu?
[03:15] <sekyourbox> with 804
[03:15] <killme> i can
[03:15] <dabukalam> op
[03:15] <phong_> 4.4 is not available yet
[03:15] <phong_> haha
[03:15] <dabukalam> i'm having a problem with installing lucid beta software on a jaunty server. Anyone experienced with repositories and sources?
[03:15] <elitecoder> I'm looking for someone who's gotten L2TP/IPSec working on ubuntu. Any help? I've spent probably 6 or more hours on this and can't get a VPN working.
[03:16] <aspidites> killme: try ffmpeg
[03:16] <bazhang> dabukalam, #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[03:16] <Billiard> killme, i use ffmpeg
[03:16] <fredoslack> phong_,  my further is 70' old
[03:16] <aspidites> Billiard: I beat you :)
[03:16] <IdleOne> dabukalam: if you can't handle repositories then perhaps an alpha release is not for you. more support in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <fredoslack> i have iinstalled Ubuntu on his portable
[03:16] <sekyourbox> killme, hulu keeps telling me to install the new flash
[03:16] <aspidites> killme: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989620
[03:16] <dabukalam> bazhang: it's not lucid, it's jaunty, it's just a lucid package and dependencies
[03:16] <fredoslack> he love :)
[03:16] <phong_> i want to try xubunto is it any diff from ubuntu ?
[03:16] <sekyourbox> I just installed the latest flash
[03:16] <dabukalam> bazhang: does that still belong in ubuntu+1?
[03:16] <aspidites> phong_: uses xfce instead of gnome
[03:17] <fredoslack> phong_,  more light
[03:17] <phong_> what is it
[03:17] <bazhang> dabukalam, that ios not supported and will break things
[03:17] <fredoslack> but very similar
[03:17] <phong_> where to get it
[03:17] <killme> ok where can i go to get ffmpeg ?
[03:17] <Dimoutlook> flash drive works perfectly in the ports off the motherbord but not the case
[03:17] <aspidites> phong_: google much?
[03:17] <Billiard> killme: package manager
[03:17] <dabukalam> bazhang: it's not the OS, it's just a package
[03:17] <phong_> http://www.xfce.org/
[03:17] <phong_> okay i got it
[03:17] <bazhang> dabukalam, does not matter
[03:17] <IdleOne> !google | aspidites
[03:17] <fredoslack> phong_,  xfce is great, you will see
[03:17] <killme> cool thank you
[03:17] <bazhang> phong_, install xubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <sekyourbox> whats wrong with mencoder?
[03:18] <fredoslack> it is a "small gnome"  hih i
[03:18] <fredoslack> hi hi
[03:18] <killme> did
[03:18] <phong_> xfce is like a theme for linux desktop, is that right?
[03:18] <fredoslack> more than a theme
[03:18] <jiohdi> phong, much like gnome
[03:18] <phong_> bazhang, why install xubuntu ??/what is the advantage ?
[03:18] <bazhang> phong_, not quite, it is a desktop environment much like KDE or gnome
[03:18] <fredoslack> an environnement
[03:19] <killme> you install the correct one
[03:19] <aspidites> IdleOne: understood, but "xubuntu" isn't much google foo. he does have ubuntu already afterall
[03:19] <jiohdi> phong, only its lighter in some ways when it comes to cpu load... and has less graphic capabilities
[03:19] <bazhang> phong_, what version of ubuntu are you using
[03:19] <developer> anyone here with a solution for remote desktop connectivity
[03:19] <phong_> i'm currently use kubuntu
[03:19] <IdleOne> aspidites: Still, please don't tell people to google it.
[03:19] <phong_> i'm currently use kubuntu 9.10
[03:19] <jiohdi> phong xfce is better on older slower computers
[03:19] <bazhang> phong_, no, I mean number
[03:19] <tacantara> #
[03:19] <phong_> i have intel i7 920
[03:19] <blakkheim> xubuntu is still very bloated
[03:19] <bazhang> phong_, then you can also try lubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <phong_> it's fast man
[03:20] <phong_> oh my god
[03:20] <phong_> how many ubuntu are out theer?
[03:20] <aspidites> lubuntu...hmm.lxde?
[03:20] <phong_> is it like from a to z
[03:20] <blakkheim> probably over 9000
[03:20] <bazhang> aspidites, yes
[03:20] <sekyourbox> I have a question.. Why doesn't hulu work???
[03:20] <Billiard> sekyourbox: what method did you use to install flash?
[03:20] <killme> too many
[03:20] <aspidites> sekyourbox: kinda vague. would need to know what symptoms you are experiencing. do you get a particular error message??
[03:20] <hiexpo> humm
[03:20] <fredoslack> there is Fluxbuntu too ^^
[03:20] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: it works, but its very cpu intensive and can crash systems with low memory
[03:21] <killme> i realy dont know
[03:21] <phong_> really?
[03:21] <phong_> let me see my god u make me sick now
[03:21]  * wiretapped uses rubuntu
[03:21] <killme> hu
[03:21] <wiretapped> (ratpoison)
[03:22] <jiohdi> wiretapped: that is one I have only vaguely heard about... whats its catch?
[03:22] <phong_> ok since u guys has experience, which kind of ubuntu should i install now?
[03:22] <phong_> please give me a good answer.
[03:22] <canthus13> wiretapped: Blah. ratpoison is TOO stripped down. wmii on my low-spec machine.
[03:22] <jiohdi> phong depends on what your machine can handle and what you want it to look like and do
[03:22] <aspidites> 65 ubuntu based distros
[03:22] <fredoslack> phong_,  ça dépend de tes besoins (merci de me traduire)
[03:22] <sekyourbox> I used this method to install the new flash.  Went to the vendors website, downloaded the .deb for 804+ installed, aptitude, and apt-get update (just because) and rebooted the machine.  cleared the cache on firefox, and hulu still says i need to upgrade.. Thanks in advance
[03:22] <phong_> my machine can handle anythings
[03:22] <canthus13> phong_: If you're not sure, go with plain-jane ubuntu.
[03:22] <aspidites> as per distrowatch: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=All&origin=All&basedon=Ubuntu&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active
[03:22] <fredoslack> it's depend of your needs *
[03:23] <canthus13> phong_: Just get the ubuntu CD and go for it.
[03:23] <phong_> ok
[03:23] <Kvist> Cdsfvcvf
[03:23] <phong_> the plain version
[03:23] <phong_> ;)
[03:23] <fredoslack> phong_,  Xfce or Fluxbox or Ion3 (huhu) for a old computer
[03:23] <Billiard> sekyourbox: try installing flashplugin-nonfree from the package manager
[03:23] <phong_> ok if i install ubuntu 9.10 and can i get the xfce to work on it?
[03:23] <DJCharlie> I have X working on my TV-Out (i810 video), but it's "shaky-looking". My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/m263b0866 and the results of xrandr --verbose -q is here: http://pastebin.com/m7122b15a - So how do I fix it?
[03:23] <canthus13> phong_: After working with it for a while you can either tweak it to suit your needs or have a better idea of what you really want to use.
[03:23] <canthus13> phong_: Sure.
[03:24] <phong_> ok i go with plain one
[03:24] <bazhang> phong_, that is ubuntu-desktop , you want xubuntu-desktop for xfce4
[03:24] <phong_> then keep on building it nice ;)
[03:24] <canthus13> phong_: Once it's installed, you can install xfce, then switch to it at the login screen.
[03:24] <jiohdi> phong, sure, you can even make extra user accounts and run each of them ... one account for xfce one for kde one for gnome etc
[03:24] <elitecoder> I'm looking for someone who's gotten L2TP/IPSec working on ubuntu. Any help? I've spent probably 6 or more hours on this and can't get a VPN working.
[03:24] <phong_> is xfce free?
[03:24] <canthus13> jiohdi: Or just use the same user account for each.
[03:24] <fredoslack> aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <Billiard> phong_: yes
[03:24] <fredoslack> :}
[03:24] <phong_> okay
[03:24] <phong_> brb
[03:24] <phong_> i'll install bye
[03:24] <canthus13> phong_: There's nothing at all in the repos that you have to pay for.
[03:24] <jiohdi> canthus, you can do that too :)
[03:24] <fredoslack> or apt-get
[03:24] <fredoslack> :p
[03:25] <canthus13> jiohdi: Less confusing that way.
[03:25] <aspidites> sudo apt-get/install that is
[03:25] <aspidites> unless you're lready root
[03:25] <sekyourbox> Billiard, flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[03:25] <sekyourbox> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:25] <jiohdi> canthus13: for who :)
[03:25] <canthus13> aspidites: Shouldn't already be root.
[03:25] <developer> anybody with a solution for remote desktop connectivity
[03:25] <aspidites> canthus13: just saying.
[03:26] <aspidites> developer: from what platform to what platform? linux to windows?
[03:26] <canthus13> aspidites: *shrug* we don't support running as root in here.
[03:26] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: its the newest for your distribution but you dont have 9.10 right?
[03:26] <developer> aspidites: yes
[03:26] <youshii> Hello is it possible that one could make a other operating system usb bootable than ubuntu by using the usb startup Disk Creator?
[03:26] <Billiard> sekyourbox: which version of flash does firefox say you have? type "about:plugins" into addressbar
[03:26] <sekyourbox> Jiohdi, 9.10 is on my laptop
[03:26] <developer> aspidites: or even linux to linux
[03:26] <canthus13> developer: VNC is the easiest.
[03:26] <aspidites> con-man: wasn't trying to advocate, just a blanket disclaimer
[03:26] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: is that the one that will not run hulu?
[03:27] <developer> aspidites: the problem is that the machines are on different network and behind NAT
[03:27] <developer> canthus13:  the problem is that the machines are on different network and behind NAT
[03:27] <aspidites> developer: vnc viewer?
[03:27] <elitecoder> o prease
[03:27] <canthus13> developer: You're gonna run into issues with pretty much anything in that situation.
[03:27] <testink> anyone here know how to help with ndiswrapper?
[03:28] <aspidites> developer: do you simply need remote access or do you need remote desktop?
[03:28] <sekyourbox> jiohdi, sorry 804 is the one im having issues with, havent tried on 910 yet.
[03:28] <sekyourbox> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260
[03:28] <developer> aspidites: vnc can work of course work...but how to connect to machines behind NAT
[03:28] <canthus13> developer: If you can explicitly forward a higher port to the machine in question, you can do it.
[03:28] <MoeGreen> i have used ndiswrapper.
[03:28] <developer> aspidites: i want remote desktop
[03:28] <MoeGreen> are you trying to get wireless to work?
[03:28] <youshii> Hello is it possible that one could make a other operating system usb bootable than ubuntu by using the usb startup Disk Creator?
[03:28] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: you have the newest for your distribution not the newest in existance and that is the problem
[03:28] <Billiard> developer: is port forwarding an option?
[03:28] <LearningUbunutu> Any idea on how to get Matrox G400/G450 dual head card to support two monitors?
[03:28] <canthus13> developer: Do you have access to the routers?
[03:29] <developer> canthus13: any help/resources which i can use??
[03:29] <canthus13> developer: Or access to the net admin and a couple of six-packs?
[03:29] <developer> canthus13: yes...have routers and has public IP. but not static
[03:29] <sekyourbox> jiohdi, other people here are watching hulu on 804 right?
[03:29] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: not sure... but you likely cannot even watch it on firefox right?
[03:29] <jony123> I need to apt-get some linux-headers.  it tells me to sudo aptitude install linux-headers-@(uname -r)
[03:30] <jony123> But that failed^
[03:30] <aspidites> developer: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-July/031855.html
[03:30] <canthus13> developer: Don't need a static.  You just need to be able to forward ports.  You would need a way to get the IP when it changes, tho.
[03:30] <sekyourbox> I cannot
[03:30] <canthus13> developer: Maybe a cron job to grab the external IP at 6 hour intervals and then email it to you.
[03:30] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: I think that is the problem then, because it likely needs flash 10 and 804 does not support it
[03:30] <developer> canthus13: ya...i think the dynamic dns facility is avaialble forfree
[03:30] <canthus13> developer: dyndns would also work, if you prefer the simple route. :)
[03:30] <sekyourbox> or 810 rather?
[03:31] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: you probabaly need at least 904
[03:31] <developer> canthus13: but the problem is that i dont know the concept behind port forwarding
[03:31] <sekyourbox> who here is running 8x for ubuntu??
[03:32] <developer> canthus13: and after all  where do we specify the port options in VNC Viewer??
[03:32] <DJCharlie> Anyone? I have X working on my TV-Out (i810 video), but it's "shaky-looking". My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/m263b0866 and the results of xrandr --verbose -q is here: http://pastebin.com/m7122b15a - So how do I fix it?
[03:32] <developer> canthus13: ya...dyndns
[03:32] <developer> :)
[03:32] <canthus13> developer: You just pick a port, say above 10000. (Nothing below 1065 for sure, as those are assigned to services).  Log into the router, tell it to forward the port to the machine in question.
[03:32] <youshii> Hello is it possible that one could make a other operating system usb bootable than ubuntu by using the usb startup Disk Creator?
[03:32] <jiohdi> sekyourbox: I am guessing just you :)
[03:32] <canthus13> developer: Have the VNC server on machine listen on the port you are forwarding to.
[03:32] <sekyourbox> really? wowy
[03:33] <canthus13> developer: As far as the viewer, there should be a configuration option to specify the port you want to use.
[03:33] <developer> canthus13: but i couldnt find much configuration options related to vnc...i think everything will be command line
[03:33] <canthus13> developer: This is all theory. I don't use it. I'm happy using the command line for all my needs.
[03:33] <jiohdi> youshii, very likely if you are good at editing grub...
[03:34] <canthus13> developer: I believe tightvnc is available and has a server with a gui. lemme look.
[03:34] <developer> canthus13: k..thanks in advance
[03:34] <verb3k> is there a way to install forefox 3.6 on karmic?
[03:34] <blakkheim> verb3k: compile it
[03:35] <Ari_Lazarus> !ubuntuzilla | verb3k
[03:35] <aspidites> jony123: replace the @ with $
[03:35] <canthus13> developer: Here's some relevant info.  http://www.tightvnc.com/faq.php
[03:35] <Ari_Lazarus> No:(
[03:35] <canthus13> developer: and I think tightvnc is in the repos...
[03:35] <aspidites> jony123: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:35] <developer> canthus13: k..let me see
[03:35] <canthus13> Hmm. maybe not.
[03:35] <developer> canthus13: but i heard that vnc needs a faster connection..isnt it??
[03:36] <MoeGreen> hey guys...i want to be able to view live video or snapshots from my web cam remotely...whats a good app to get me started?
[03:36] <canthus13> developer: more info for a server:  http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/
[03:36] <verb3k> MoeGreen, you mean live streaming on the internet?
[03:36] <aspidites> can't you stream video with vlc?
[03:36] <developer> canthus13: have you ever tried Team Viewer for windows....i am expecting functionality same as that software
[03:36] <aspidites> or you mean to host the feed online?
[03:36] <Losha> verb3k: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ but you'll have to spell it correctly...
[03:36] <canthus13> developer: It's not too bad if you have ~384k for upload speeds.
[03:37] <canthus13> developer: never used it.  Tightvnc gives you a window with the desktop of the server inside.
[03:37] <nhandler> x/48
[03:37] <verb3k> Losha, thanks for your tremendous help
[03:37] <verb3k> :D
[03:37] <MoeGreen> ya some kind of program that will connect to my ftp and give me live feed or snapshots every hour.
[03:37] <developer> canthus13: k..thats what i need
[03:37] <verb3k> MoeGreen, even if it's advanced and difficult to set? you have no problem with that?
[03:37]  * canthus13 prefers go2assist for streaming connections, but there's no linux version, unfortunatly. :(  It works great even at 150k.
[03:38] <developer> canthus13: so the first thing is that i should learn port forwarding...isnt it
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: It's not too hard on most routers.
[03:38] <developer> ok..
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: Are you behind a regular consumer-grade router?
[03:38] <aspidites> MoeGreen: http://alternativeto.net/desktop/gotoassist/
[03:38] <verb3k> MoeGreen, http://blog.devinrkennedy.com/2009/10/live-screencasting-using-ffmpeg.html, it's talking about screencasting, but the principle is similar
[03:38] <developer> canthus13: actually...we have ADSL Router
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: Then yes.
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: If you can get into the configuration, there should be a section for port forwarding.
[03:39] <MoeGreen> thx ill check it out.
[03:39] <aspidites> MoeGreen: then again, that might just  be remote access to the computer..hmmm
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: On most routers, it's pretty self-explanatory.
[03:39] <developer> canthus13: and the thing is that the public ip is on the routers interface
[03:39] <developer> canthus13: yas there is a section for portforwarding
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: If you're on a machine behind the router, you can go to ipchicken.com and get the public IP.
[03:40] <aspidites> MoeGreen: just a sec. might have found something
[03:40] <elitecoder> What's the name of the 9.10 release?
[03:40] <blakkheim> or just $ curl whatismyip.org && echo
[03:40] <elitecoder> jaunty?
[03:40] <elitecoder> or something else..
[03:40] <verb3k> Karmic Koala
[03:40] <MoeGreen> koo
[03:40] <ubuntuUserTom> Can any body tell me how I can delete my home directory, its my 'old' one that I don't need any more (re-synced it onto another partition) atm I am re-downloading ubuntu so i can use the USB to do it but is there any other way?
[03:40] <developer> canthus13: another thing is that the router is connected to a server and the local lan is connected to the server via a switch
[03:40] <elitecoder> thank you
[03:41] <Anacranom> elitecoder: karmic
[03:41] <aspidites> MoeGreen: meh. nevermind. assorted stuff i never heard of. sorry
[03:41] <elitecoder> thanks again :]
[03:41] <verb3k> elitecoder, you're welcome
[03:41] <MoeGreen> np
[03:42] <developer> canthus13: and the server has two network card and there is internal routing done within that server
[03:42] <developer> canthus13: i think all these things will make complications ....:(
[03:42] <airlia> Anyone want to help me out? I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and it keeps freezing every 10 or so minutes.
[03:42] <canthus13> developer: Maybe.  so.. all traffic goes through the server?
[03:43] <LLStarks> hi. how do i prevent synaptic from stealing focus?
[03:43] <developer> canthus13: yes..alll trafic goes through the server
[03:43] <scunizi> developer: so why have a router if you're using the server as one?
[03:43] <Dreki> airlia, you just installed ubuntu?
[03:43] <julio_> #ubuntu
[03:43] <canthus13> developer: Give it a shot.. the worst that can happen is it won't work and you'll have to figure out how to get the server to forward the traffic on.
[03:43] <airlia> I'm an ubuntu noob, but I've been running 9.10 for a month or so now.
[03:44] <airlia> The freezing has always been there, it's just gotten a lot worse recently.
[03:44] <canthus13> developer: Is the server transparent to the network? Or is it the default gateway?
[03:44] <aspidites> airlia: comfortable with a terminal?
[03:44] <airlia> A bit.
[03:44] <kalakupua> Hey
[03:44] <developer> canthus13: server is the default gateway
[03:44] <aspidites> airlia: pastebin top command for me please.
[03:44] <canthus13> developer: Then it might not work without a little tweaking to the server.
[03:44] <scunizi> !ics | developer - I came in late adn didn't get it all.. maybe this will help
[03:45] <developer> scunizi: the router is actually ADSL router...which provides iternet
[03:45] <kalakupua> Ubuntu Rocks!
[03:45] <julio_> How Can i connect to Ubuntu Brazil here?
[03:45] <Trek> julio_, is there an Ubuntu Brazil IRC channel?
[03:45] <bazhang> julio_, /j #ubuntu-br
[03:45] <canthus13> julio_: #ubuntu-br
[03:45] <Trek> thats a yes :P
[03:45] <julio_> Thanks!!!
[03:45] <bazhang> np :)
[03:45] <scunizi> developer: ah.. just went through that with a business..
[03:45] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d6340a433
[03:45] <daddysmurf> currently, at home I run ubuntu on my server. At work, we use CentOS (de-branded redhat). I need a test environment to learn to write rpm's. I cannot use work boxes (yet) because, I'm just learning the sys admin part, and we can't spare the boxes at the moment. I have a few options that I see. I can reformat with fedora (or some other rpm-based distro), I can use xen and para-virtualize an rpm-based distro (my preference), or I can 
[03:46] <sekyourbox> hoq do I force firefox to use 10.0.42.34-1 instead of Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260?
[03:46] <kalakupua> Anyone interested in a IDN? www.sɹǝʞɔɐɥ.com
[03:46] <scunizi> daddysmurf: use virtualbox.. easier and faster to setup..
[03:46] <bazhang> kalakupua, that is offtopic here dont paste in this channel
[03:46] <daddysmurf> scunizi: no gui
[03:47] <kalakupua> sorry
[03:47] <aspidites> airlia: when you say freezing do you mean all around or only certain programs?
[03:47] <kalakupua> I can answer ubuntu questions too
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: it will run headless.. or gui-less
[03:47] <kalakupua> :D
[03:47] <daddysmurf> scunizi: oh?
[03:47] <airlia> All around. Complete kernal failure. Caps lock doesn't even light up.
[03:47] <developer> canthus13: i think the things will be easy if i have the public IP for the server isnt it??
[03:47] <developer> canthus13: i mean the ppoe mode
[03:47] <daddysmurf> scunizi: completely, or after it's setup?
[03:47] <airlia> Can't ctrl+alt f1 for a shell either.
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: but not the version in the repos.. just the version from their site.. they have a repo for ubuntu
[03:47] <Zilu54> is there any ubuntu game IRCs?
[03:47] <aspidites> airlia: pastebin cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: completely
[03:47] <Zilu54> is there any ubuntu game IRCs?
[03:47] <sdwrage> How does one restart their GNOME desktop? I need a few menu items that I installed to show up
[03:48] <daddysmurf> scunizi: you may have just solved my entire issue
[03:48] <snuxoll> sdwrage: you just need to restare your panel
[03:48] <scunizi> sdwrage: sudo service gdm restart
[03:48] <scunizi> daddysmurf: :)
[03:48] <julio_> Hi people. I can't configure Kismet here in Ubuntu, People say that using BackTrack we don't even have to configure Kismet, is it true??
[03:48] <snuxoll> sdwrage: hit alt-f2 and type in: pkill gnome-panel
[03:48] <blakkheim> julio_: no
[03:48] <sekyourbox> hoq do I force firefox to use 10.0.42.34-1 instead of Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260?
[03:48] <sekyourbox> not sure if it went through
[03:49] <airlia> No such file or directory when i run the command cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <julio_> blakkheim So even in Back Track I gotta edit kismet.conf, is it?
[03:49] <blakkheim> julio_: yes
[03:49] <scunizi> airlia: nope.. not on the latest releases.. xrandr controls video setup
[03:49] <daddysmurf> sekyourbox: uninstall 9.0, figure out what it's failing to see?
[03:49] <aspidites> airlia: hmm..may be somewhere else. running arch here so i can't remember
[03:49] <aspidites> airlia: run locate xorg.conf
[03:49] <aspidites> then cat the result of that
[03:50] <julio_> blakkheim: =//, Thanks!!
[03:50] <aspidites> unless..by default does ubuntu run without xorg.conf?
[03:50] <deostroll> hi i installed tweetdeck. Created a custom app launcher, and added it to the applications bar on the top...i can't assign the same tweetdeck icon to it. Is it possible to do this?
[03:50] <scunizi> aspidites: there is no xorg.conf on 9.10 release
[03:50] <developer> airlia: i think ubuntu 9.10 doesnt use a xorg configuration
[03:50] <airlia> airlia@ubuntu:~$ locate xorg.conf
[03:50] <airlia> /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[03:50] <airlia> is the result of that command. sorry for not pastebin-ing that, are two lines okay in this channel?
[03:50] <aspidites> scunizi: just thought of that right before you typed it :P
[03:50] <snuxoll> Ubuntu 9.10 does Xorg configuration automatically now, there's no xorg.conf unless you create it
[03:50] <elitecoder> Is there a way to remove the config files installed by apt-get installing something?/
[03:50] <scunizi> aspidites: :)
[03:50] <snuxoll> airlia: that's fine
[03:50] <elitecoder> without going to find them
[03:50] <developer> airlia: ubuntu 9.10 auto configures the xserver
[03:51] <snuxoll> elitecoder: apt-get purge
[03:51] <sekyourbox> daddysmurf, i was gonna try that,but wanted to see what the deal was first
[03:51] <elitecoder> snuxoll: hank youuu
[03:51] <developer> elitecoder: use apt-get purge <package name>
[03:51] <deusr> hi
[03:51] <mauricioquiros> hi thre, I upgrade  Ubuntu Server on a VirtualBOx machine and it kill my VM, where could I ask for help? no luck with google or ubuntu forums..
[03:51] <julio_> Can Someone help me to configure Kismet?
[03:51] <aspidites> airlia: hmmm..thinking...
[03:52] <aspidites> airlia: which graphics driver are you using?
[03:52] <blakkheim> julio_: man kismet.conf
[03:52] <airlia> Oh man.. I honestly couldn't tell you.
[03:52] <aspidites> airlia: wm? stock gnome or do you have effects inabled
[03:52] <airlia> I'm using this dinosaur of a machine
[03:52] <Losha> airlia: frankly, I think freezes of the kind you describe are more likely to be due to a hardware problem. Bad memory, power supply, or motherboard. Did this box formerly run windows without freezing?
[03:52] <airlia> No effects enabled.
[03:52] <julio_> blakkheim, yeah I know, I gotta edit it, I just don know the chipset driver
[03:52] <airlia> It ran Ubuntu before, an older version. I think 7.04
[03:52] <developer> airlia: hardware configuration please
[03:52] <airlia> Then the HDD failed
[03:53] <airlia> Any command I can run to easily get you that info?
[03:53] <julio_> blakkheim, and I dont know where it is by typing lscpi or something like that
[03:53] <daddysmurf> sekyourbox: that's usually what I do if something's not working right. had zope on gentoo trying to crank up python 2.6, uninstalled 2.6, it found 2.4, then installed 2.6 after and it all worked like a dream
[03:53] <airlia> I also get an error at startup for a split second after GRUB loads, if that could help.
[03:53] <aspidites> airlia: yeah. lspci -v would do it
[03:53] <blakkheim> julio_: there is a lot of documentation on their site
[03:53] <airlia> 8254 timer not connected to io-apic is the error i think.
[03:53] <julio_> I'll take a look then, thanks!!
[03:53] <intangir> i just installed the newest version of ubuntu (9.10) and it wont let me create new panels in gnome.. i only have the default top and bottom ones...
[03:53] <deostroll> any1 knw whats a .svg file?
[03:53] <deusr> someone help me with the driver webcam Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:09c1 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Deluxe for Notebooks in ubuntu?
[03:53] <XVirus> How can I prevent a user from mounting USB disks ?
[03:54] <aspidites> airlia: :S that makes things fun. had that on my old laptop
[03:54] <developer> intangir: just right click on the top panel and click new panel
[03:54] <scunizi> deostroll: it's a svg graphic file.. inkscape or gimp should open it.
[03:54] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d1d28c995
[03:54] <Vantrax> intangir, so you cant right click on a panel and click new panel?
[03:54] <Trek> XVirus: you would need to configure the device mounting policy.  what version of ubu may I ask?
[03:54] <aspidites> airlia: didn't cause freezes though. could be your luck though.
[03:54] <scunizi> deostroll: svg=scalable vector graphics
[03:54] <XVirus> Trek: latest
[03:54] <developer> intangir: have you tried AWN....its better than the default panel for the panel at the bottom
[03:54] <deostroll> scunizi: can u add ur own images to it?
[03:54] <airlia> There's the result of that command.
[03:54] <Trek> XVirus: hold on a minute, okay?
[03:54] <XVirus> Trek: sure
[03:55] <Vantrax> developer, or use gnome-do in dock mode, or cairo dock
[03:55] <intangir> i right click the bar, gotto new panel, and nothing happens
[03:55] <intangir> i tried it in compiz and metacity
[03:55] <intangir> neither pop up a new panel
[03:55] <aspidites> airlia: ah. intel integrated. what about the results of lsmod | grep intel?
[03:55] <scunizi> deostroll: it is an image.. one image.. you can make your own though.. install inkscape
[03:55] <developer> Vantrax: but new AWN trunk is simply superb than others
[03:55] <intangir> i tried moving the existing panels to see if it was under them or something, but no
[03:55] <XVirus> Trek: I disabled automounting .. but my problem now is that when I plug the device .. it shows in nautilus's side pane and the user can click on it to mount it
[03:55] <deusr> someone?
[03:55] <Vantrax> lol
[03:55] <flaco> hi all.. someone can help me with routing with VPN (pptp) (I can't ping between clients, but can ping from server to client and back), I got this network diagram http://img693.imageshack.us/i/redh.png/ , can't understand this guide (I'm new with networks) http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/routing.phtml#client-to-lan the route changes I have to do it in the client or in the server??
[03:55] <developer> Vantrax: Simple , Stylish, and easily configurable
[03:56] <Vantrax> developer, I still think Gnome DO is much better, a few key features that make it much much better
[03:56] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d21e729a9
[03:56] <Trek> XVirus: Are you sure you didn't deactivate the passwords needed to mount internal media/removable media?
[03:56] <soreau> intangir: That's strange.. did you try restarting gnome-panel?
[03:56] <julio_> How can I make Kismet automatically detect my driver? hehe
[03:56] <aspidites> deusr: qc-usb driver, which is already integrated in the latest kernel (but i'm not sure which version of the kernel ubuntu runs stock)
[03:56] <XVirus> Trek: yes .. I didn't do that
[03:56] <developer> Vantrax: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/awn-new-features-download.html
[03:56] <soreau> ! webcam | deusr
[03:56] <blakkheim> julio_: you can't. if you want that kind of thing you shouldn't be using kismet in the first place.
[03:57] <developer> Vantrax: what features are distinct
[03:57] <deostroll> scunizi: k i want to take another app icon for my custom lauched app...hw can i do this?
[03:57] <julio_> hum...
[03:57] <XVirus> Trek: so ?
[03:57] <intangir> soreau: how do i restart just gnome-panel?
[03:57] <julio_> blakkheim, I want to test my wireless connection security
[03:57] <scunizi> flaco: not sure if I can help but let's see if we can logic this out.. are you on the client or server side?
[03:58] <aspidites> airlia: everything was fine until hardware failure right?
[03:58] <Trek> XVirus: sorry, give me a few seconds longer
[03:58] <blakkheim> julio_: what encryption scheme do you use
[03:58] <XVirus> Trek: sure
[03:58] <julio_> blakkheim wpa2
[03:58] <schnable> Hi, can someone point me to a resource that explains the differences between the hardy, hardy-updates, and hardy-security repos?
[03:58] <blakkheim> julio_: TKIP or AES
[03:58] <airlia> It was fine before the old HDD died
[03:58] <flacom> scunizi: both... I'm testing the network...
[03:58] <julio_> I do not understand about that much though, i've just put it in the router configuration
[03:58] <Vantrax> developer, gnome-do can search for and launch any application from the dock
[03:58] <deusr> aspidites, orcilia@ipa:/usr/NX/scripts/setup$ lsmod |grep qc
[03:58] <deusr> orcilia@ipa:/usr/NX/scripts/setup$
[03:58] <airlia> and with the older version of ubuntu
[03:58] <karpus> Hello, I'm having trouble with the Compiz plugin "Place Windows"! I want it to center Deluge's "Add Torrent" dialog, so I added "(class=Deluge-gtk) & title=Add Torrents" to the Fixed Placement Mode with the action "Centered", but it doesn't work. Anything wrong with my method? :\
[03:58] <scunizi> deostroll: right mouse click the current icon for your app, choose properties, in the new box click the icon, find the one you want and save
[03:58] <Anacranom> intangir: service gnome-panel restart
[03:58] <soreau> intangir: In ubuntu gnome, if gnome panel ever gets killed, it automatically restarts itself. So all you have to do is 'killall gnome-panel'
[03:58] <julio_> blakkheim, I guess it is AES
[03:59] <scunizi> flacom: ok.. are there routers on both sides?
[03:59] <blakkheim> julio_: and how many characters is your passphrase
[03:59] <Losha> airlia: According to google, "8254 timer not connected to io-apic" isn't known to cause freezes. In your place, I'd run a memtest overnight, and if that's clean, I'd try 8.04 LTS
[03:59] <julio_> blakkheim, and I told you, i do not understand about that much
[03:59] <julio_> blakkheim, 8
[03:59] <airlia> how do i run a memtest?
[03:59] <aspidites> airlia: really at this point i would be doing the old process of elination
[03:59] <blakkheim> julio_: you should increase that by a lot, using numbers/letters/ascii
[03:59] <scunizi> flacom: hard to tell from the diagram
[04:00] <aspidites> airlia: already do an fsck on your drives (at boot while they aren't mounted, that is)
[04:00] <soreau> karpus: Did you try using the + key in the match dialog in ccsm, then click Grab so you can click on the window you want to match?
[04:00] <blakkheim> julio_: i use a 63-character string of upper/lowercase+numbers+ascii
[04:00] <flacom> scunizi: yes, the router in the server I can made changes, in the others not
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim can people crack it easily?
[04:00] <blakkheim> julio_: 8 chars? yes 63? no
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim, wow
[04:00] <Trek> XVirus: i'm not sure why your system would be doing that.  I just tested my 9.10 install that I have on my server box (I use the GUI version of Ubu for my server) with removable media, and deactivated auto-mount anyways, and it prompts for the password to mount when using the sidebar
[04:00] <Trek> anyone: reference XVirus's question in case you have any other insights
[04:00] <flacom> scunizi: what info you think are missing?
[04:00] <karpus> soreau: Yes, it was through that dialog I got (class=Deluge-gtk) & title=Add Torrents
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim I though mine was pretty good haha people here generally use wep
[04:00] <Losha> airlia: it should be a boot option. It can't hurt to fsck your disks either, as aspidites says...
[04:01] <airlia> alright, i'll do that.
[04:01] <blakkheim> julio_: yeah that can be cracked in less than a minute..
[04:01] <XVirus> Trek: how did you disable automount ?
[04:01] <airlia> what should i press to get a terminal before boot?
[04:01] <scunizi> flacom: usually with vpn you're going from one network to another.. both are seperated by routers.. if the server is the router for the network then vpn isn't required and may not be configurable
[04:01] <XVirus> XVirus: did you try with a usb flash disk ?
[04:01] <julio_> blakkheim thatś incredible
[04:01] <soreau> karpus: Do you have compiz running?
[04:01] <aspidites> memtest is tied to bios i thought?
[04:01] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta
[04:02] <airlia> memtest is in bios then? but how would i run fsck?
[04:02] <intangir> weird, i killed gnome-panel and 1 new panel appeared after restart, just 1.. in my gnome-conf it shows i have 7 now ;) i tried adding a new one that many times but now only 3 are visible (better than 2 i guess..)
[04:02] <deostroll> scunizi: my app doesn't hve an icon i guess; its the shortcut which has it. Can't find the icon loc either way...
[04:02] <julio_> blakkheim thanks! I will make a bigger password !
[04:02] <julio_> blakkheim thanks! bye!
[04:02] <karpus> soreau: "compiz" and "compiz.real" is running according to the system monitor, so it should be running :)
[04:03] <aspidites> airlia: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[04:03] <aspidites> not quite what you asked, but it will accomplish the same
[04:03] <flacom> scunizi: my only problem now... is.. that the clients A and B can't connect to the PC located in the same network of the vpn server
[04:03] <soreau> karpus: If you use the same match in a different plugin, does it work? For example, using the match in the OBS plugin to make it transparent a bit
[04:03] <airlia> I'll try the disk check, thanks guys!
[04:03] <Losha> aspidites: memtest is a standalone bootable binary that you boot into *instead* of linux. It does a very thorough exercise of RAM if you let it run long enough. You can't combine it with fsck, it's meant for testing memory....
[04:03] <ouyes> after updating, there are two kernels in the grub startup option, how to get rid of the old one ?
[04:04] <sortremord> what is the boot kernel option for loading the basic VESA video driver?
[04:04] <scunizi> flacom: if there is a router between them then check the setup in the router.. most have a vpn setup section so it will pass the request to the internal IP of the machine you're trying to reach.
[04:04] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta
[04:04] <aspidites> Losha: rather, i meant the option for memtest is in the bios. at least its in mine. though, i do vaguely remember it being a boot option on ubuntu livecd
[04:04] <sacarlson> ﻿flacom I was just able to do this A and B on same network over wifi
[04:05] <sortremord> what is the boot kernel option for loading the basic VESA video driver?
[04:06] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm sure is the little detail, because I can ping from the clients A and B to the server, so  I need to forward the packages to the rest of the computers connected in the same network of the VPN
[04:06] <karpus> soreau: Uh... Not good, I tried adding it to the Opacity plugin but when I opened a torrent file, launching the dialog, the screen flickered and now ~35% of my screen is just black. I also saw Docky complaining about compositing being disabled or something like that (after the flickering)
[04:07] <soreau> karpus: Check that compiz is running, it may have crashed. Set to None and back again in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects
[04:07] <Losha> aspidites: I don't know if there are bios resident versions of memtest, many bioses will do some kind of cursory memory test at bootup, but the memtest I'm talking about is the boot option and it really needs to run overnight. If airlia sees a hang or other errors running memtest, we'll know it's a hardware issue....
[04:08] <aspidites> Losha: ah
[04:08] <Nichod> Well anyone knowledgeable know why Ubuntu 9.04 would install fine, but 9.10 wouldn't?
[04:08] <Nichod> Everytime I downloaded a 9.10 image it had an error in one file. And would cut off mid-installation.
[04:08] <Sorhan> ok ... finally able to mount shares that I need to on the windows machine, how can I make a script that on connection to my "home" network it mounts those directories?
[04:09] <loops> Nichod, different kernels, probably a regression.   What hardware are you on, and what do you mean by "doesn't install" ?
[04:09] <scunizi> Nichod: you burning the cd as slow as you can?
[04:09] <developer> Vantrax: so did u see the new awn??
[04:09] <sacarlson> ﻿flacom do you mean you want A and B and C to see each other over VPN?
[04:09] <bazhang> Nichod, the md5 sum fails?
[04:09] <Nichod> loops: it would simple say that an error occurred during installation (check harddrive, makesure CD fine, etc.)
[04:09] <Losha> Nichod: my first guess would be a bad burn with the 9.10 cd. Does the CD pass md5sum?
[04:09] <bazhang> Nichod, you may wish to try a torrent if os
[04:10] <Nichod> burned at 4x.
[04:10] <karpus> soreau: Ok, I think it's working again
[04:10] <Nichod> md5 sum was fine on all
[04:10] <Ziber> !cron
[04:10] <Nichod> i attempted 4 installations.
[04:10] <bazhang> Nichod, then I would suggest the alternate installer
[04:10] <flacom> scunizi: saddly, I got a crappy router... no VPN options
[04:10] <Nichod> i'm thinking of just upgrading a jaunty install.
[04:10] <Vantrax> developer, going to play with it on the weekend
[04:10] <flacom> sacarlson, yes
[04:11] <loops> Nichod, you might want to try installing from a USB thumb drive instead of CD
[04:11] <Nichod> just odd that the disk check said that an error was found.
[04:11] <scunizi> flacom: well you can try to portforward from the server to the machine you're trying to reachh
[04:11] <Nichod> in one file.
[04:11] <sdwrage> Hey guys, what file do I need to edit to add paths like JAVA_HOME
[04:11] <sacarlson> ﻿flacom I never played with that but I did see there was an option to configure so that other clients could see each other
[04:11] <developer> Vantrax: thats good...one best feature is that the GNOMENU is integrated with it
[04:11] <scunizi> Nichod: try burning an iso download using the torrent download option
[04:12] <Obsidian1723-2> How can I fix broken dependancies?
[04:12] <Nichod> loops: i tried installing with wubi, used unetbootin to create a usb burn, downloaded direct from ubuntu.com and downloaded a torrent.
[04:12] <XVirus> How can I prevent a user from mounting USB flash disks ?
[04:12] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta.
[04:12] <flacom> scunizi: I have setup the router to forward the VPN packages to the vpn server
[04:12] <Nichod> all of them resulted in a error in one file and a error during install (desktop version)
[04:12] <developer> Nichod: what about the checksum..?? if its ok then try booting from a usb
[04:12] <tweaksource> sdwrage, http://sanaulla.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/setting-java_home-in-ubuntu/
[04:12] <Nichod> developer: as i said i tried booting from a USB and the checksum was fine
[04:13] <developer> Nichod: then whats the issue,,??
[04:13] <Blue11> XVirus: make him a desktop user -- iirc they can't issue a sudo
[04:13] <Nichod> oddly enough the usb created with 9.10 didn't even work.
[04:13] <scunizi> flacom: you might also need to have the vpn server continue the forward to the machine you're trying to reach..
[04:13] <loops> Nichod, when you say "error in one file", were you getting an error message?
[04:13] <loops> Nichod, something isn't adding up.
[04:13] <developer> Nichod: y..?? is the machine a new one???
[04:13] <flacom> scunizi: that is... but I don't know how to do it
[04:13] <Nichod> loops: the error in 1 file was when scanning the disc for errors
[04:13] <tweaksource> ANyone know how to configure fluxbox apps file?
[04:13] <XVirus> Blue11: I'm not talking about manual mounting ... but automatic one
[04:14] <Nichod> loops: using the built in scan tool on the disc
[04:14] <loops> Nichod, which disk, the USB thumb drive?
[04:14] <Blue11> XVirus: don't know how to disable that ---
[04:14] <XVirus> Blue11: I disabled automatic mount already .. but the user can still mount the device when he clicks on it on nautilus's side pane
[04:14] <scunizi> flacom: that's where I'll have to pass it to someone that knows more about vpn and the server side setup.. If there's no answer here. try in ##linux
[04:14] <Losha> Nichod: you understand that an md5sum check of the iso is not the same as an md5sum check of the burned disk? You need to do the latter....
[04:14] <kronosx1> i have a question, does anyone here have a acer aspire one netbook?
[04:14] <Blue11> XVirus: hmmm
[04:15] <Nichod> loops: i technically tried installing 5 times. two of them using a CD and both times i checked the CD it said it had a file with an error. and it was from two different download locations that had sums checked
[04:15] <sdwrage> tweaksource, thx but figured it out :) ~/.profile
[04:15] <Blue11> kronosx1: yes I have one
[04:15] <tweaksource> sdwrage, Cool.
[04:15] <kronosx1> ok, i am a ubuntu noob, how would i go about formatting the entire HD to reinstall XP using the restore disk.
[04:16] <loops> Nichod, sometimes the disk-check does mess up.   But lets ignore that for a second, what happened when you installed from USB thumb drive?
[04:16] <tweaksource> kronosx1, gparted, delete all.
[04:16] <developer> kronosx1: u can use the live cd of ubuntu to format the harddisk
[04:16] <Blue11> kronosx1: as part of the install options - that is one of the options - just choose all of the disc
[04:16] <maco> kronosx1: the windows install disc should offer to do it for you
[04:16] <Nichod> loops: it wouldn't even read from the USB drive.
[04:16] <Nichod> loops: 9.04 ran from same usb drive fine.
[04:16] <Blue11> developer: well the usb start drive remember netbooks have no optical drives by defination
[04:16] <tweaksource> Windows install disk won't touch ext3
[04:17] <Losha> Nichod: do you still have the 9.10 cd you burned?
[04:17] <loops> Nichod, my guess is you're having more than one problem.
[04:17] <kronosx1> the windows install disk actually is just a restore disk that is a copy of a stock hd. i think i have a xp disk somewhere.
[04:17] <kronosx1> ill try that and see what happens.
[04:17] <developer> tweaksource: windows installation can delete ext3 partitions
[04:18] <Blue11> windows gets dicey over mbr ownership
[04:18] <loops> Nichod, i would ignore the disk-check and proceed with install, if it gives you an error, work from there
[04:18] <tweaksource> developer, Ok. I've never seen it recognize one.
[04:18] <what> Blue11: what u talkin about.
[04:18] <loops> Blue11, Windows gets territorial over mbr ownership
[04:18] <Nichod> loops: probably. just happy 9.04 is installed. just wondering if any known issues with 9.10 and hardware exist. any significant ones. i did do a search and came across other people that did the disk check and came up with the same error in a single file that had the same problem, but no one game a response to their problem on the forums.
[04:18] <sacarlson> ﻿flacom I think you need to add --client-to-client   to your openvpn command line or ﻿﻿client-to-client  to your openvpn config file to enable internal routeing
[04:18] <Blue11> loops: what I said...
[04:19] <what> i've installed windows several thousand times, and linux at least triple that
[04:19] <developer> tweaksource: it will show the ext3 partitions as unrecognized...but we can easily delete it
[04:19] <loops> Blue11, you said it too gently :o)
[04:19] <loops> what, me too
[04:19] <kronosx1> yeah, the restore disk i have installs windows as though it is a 1:1 copy of my HD. I hate acer for doing that.
[04:19] <tweaksource> developer, You are right. I stand corrected.
[04:19] <Blue11> kronosx1: the first thing I did was reformat the hd --
[04:19] <developer> tweaksource: even from a running windows we can see the partitions as unknown and healthy :)
[04:20] <BitWraith> how do I search for a package with apt?
[04:20] <kronosx1> i used  the restore disk last night and it gave me a grub error. cant remember what one.
[04:20] <scunizi> BitWraith: apt-cache search <search term>
[04:20] <tweaksource> True, but  I usually only see ntfs from Ubuntu.
[04:20] <Blue11> BitWraith: apt-cache search <packagename?
[04:20] <kronosx1> will do, i have a xp disk i just found and ill give that a try.
[04:20] <tweaksource> developer,  I forget.
[04:20] <Blue11> apt-cache search <packagename>
[04:20] <what> sigh
[04:20] <BitWraith> thanks
[04:20] <tweaksource> developer, Only have Win in VBox now.
[04:20] <what> blue, one can use multiple search terms btw
[04:20] <what> and it does not have to be package name
[04:21] <developer> tweaksource: ok..
[04:21] <what> it can be any term also in the full description iirc
[04:21] <Nichod> loops: how about any issues with scsi drives and karmic?
[04:21] <Blue11> what: i think it will take any regular expression
[04:21] <deusr> The  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitechsite is showing that my webcam works with the driver gpsca, but how do I find out which module is?
[04:21] <what> Blue11: possibly, not tried that ;)
[04:21] <Nichod> lopos: just trying to make sure if i do a jaunty update it will work (and i meant jaunty not karmic)
[04:21] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm not using openvpn
[04:21] <deusr> is longitech deluxe notebook
[04:21] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm using poptop
[04:21] <sdwrage> Hey guys, When I add something to ~/.profile, is it available right away???
[04:21] <Nichod> a search hasn't come across anything loops
[04:21] <loops> Nichod, yes someone earlier complained of issue installing with SCSI cdrom, and had to go to USB
[04:22] <sacarlson> ﻿flacom oh sorry
[04:22] <nickgarvey> sdwrage, you probably need to source it.  Type "source ~/.profile"
[04:22] <Blue11> i had problems with wifi connectivitiy - so I had to backport - then the connectivity problems went away -
[04:22] <Nichod> loops: well it's a scsi hd
[04:22] <Losha> Blue11: yes, man apt-cache says that "search" will take a regexp....
[04:22] <loops> Nichod, could be a problem of course, it's a new kernel, there might be a regression
[04:22] <c_nick> using control alt and F1..5 takes me to cmd prompt.. and using the same combination with F7 takes me to the GUI mode.. but on a 845 mobo P4 and 1 GB ram pc at home.. crtl alt F7 takes me to a blank screen instead.. how can i reset and enter.. i tried with /etc/init.d start but it says fail ..i even reconfigured xserver-xorg but still same issue
[04:22] <developer> tweaksource: are u using VBOX OSE??
[04:22] <Blue11> Losha: i thought it would, but am too lazy to fire up a term window and do a man ;-)
[04:23] <nickgarvey> c_nick: I assume restarting is not an option?
[04:23] <Trek> Nichod: is your issue that Karmic isn't working with scsi?  if thats the case with the new kernel, you might issue a bug report
[04:23] <dude> i want to instlal ubuntu ,what can i  do?
[04:23] <Blue11> dude: on what using what?
[04:23] <Losha> Nichod: do you have a 9.10 cd or did you do a usb install?
[04:23] <nickgarvey> !install > dude
[04:23] <dude> yes
[04:23] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, uhhhh now I am getting this: The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[04:23] <sdwrage> sudo: command not found
[04:23] <dude> i ave a 9.10 cd
[04:24] <dude> but my computer .
[04:24] <what> sdwrage:
[04:24] <Blue11> sdwrage: what are you trying to do?
[04:24] <c_nick> nickgarvey: well i have to restart
[04:24] <tweaksource> developer, I don't think so. Not from the repos. Would it say OSE?
[04:24] <dude> no cd device
[04:24] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:24] <what> cat /etc/*release && cat /etc/*version
[04:24] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: sounds like your .profile is a little bit messed up :) mind pastebinning it?
[04:24] <sdwrage> Blue11, set an environment variable for GRAILS
[04:24] <what> what do you get? pastebin it
[04:24] <what> !pastebin
[04:24] <c_nick> nickgarvey: otherwise nothing seems to work.. even the live cd takes a whole lot of time .. i am running Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix Edition
[04:24] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I cant open it....
[04:24] <developer> tweaksource: from the repos the give OSE-OpenSourceEdition
[04:24] <fredoslack> re hello :)
[04:24] <sdwrage> sudo is not working now
[04:25] <developer> tweaksource: you might have taken from SUN's site
[04:25] <Blue11> sdwrage: try logging off then back on - and see if that fixes it
[04:25] <victor__> anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3?
[04:25] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: so your terminal is down? are you able to open gedit?
[04:25] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: using the gui that is
[04:25] <victor__> anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3? (for kde)
[04:25] <sdwrage> lemme try that
[04:25] <julio_> br
[04:25] <flacom> scunizi: yes, I'm in the networking channel, but I think is too late :P
[04:25] <Blue11> victor__: mp3 - dunno wav yes.. kontact will to that
[04:26] <Trek> julio_ are you looking for #ubuntu-br?
[04:26] <tweaksource> developer, It is not OSE. I did download from Sun. Why do you ask?
[04:26] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:26] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: the latest beta?
[04:26] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok now I saved it back to where it should be
[04:26] <Obsidian1723-2> scun yeah
[04:26] <developer> tweaksource: i heard that the OSE version doesnt support USB sharing yet...wanted to know whether if they corrected it or not
[04:27] <sdwrage> basically reverted my changes and still no go
[04:27] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2, this is why people usually wait for the stable versions to be released as there are bugs in betas
[04:27] <Blue11> Obsidian1723-2: have you tried a sudo apt-get purge ?
[04:27] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: reverting your changes still doesn't let you use sudo?
[04:27] <Obsidian1723-2> blue, not yet
[04:27] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2, and I think Blue11's idea might help
[04:27] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, nope.....
[04:27] <sdwrage> gave me a bunch of errors
[04:27] <sdwrage> hold on ill pastebin
[04:27] <tweaksource> developer, Last I tried (a few months ago) there was no USB support. That's why I use the other.
[04:27] <Losha> victor__: perhaps kalarm (disclaimer: I don't run kde)
[04:27] <edday> how to modify UNR 9.10 login window? i want   username and password all needed , not show username. Login screen settings has little options and it's useless.
[04:27] <c_nick> i tried removing compiz and compiz-core but then when i go in the netbook remix desktop everything lags.. but in normal desktop it seems to work well
[04:27] <Obsidian1723-2> I tried purge, even with -f and no go
[04:28] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: hang on I think there is a ppa for that.. or install shiriko (spelling?) which is 3.5.. I have the latest 3.6 but it's auto updated.. hang on
[04:28] <Trek> scunizi: you thinking Shiretoko?
[04:28] <thechris> need help with dvd playback.
[04:28] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: you might need to go into single user mode depending on your errors, do you know what that is or should I find some links about it?
[04:28] <Blue11> c_nick: i don't run compiz on a netbook - not designed for that...
[04:28] <developer> tweaksource: ok...by the way do you customize your distro....are you a customize maniac like me??
[04:28] <Obsidian1723-2> scun, can I paste you the error?
[04:28] <c_nick> edday: in Systems -> Adminstation ->login screen
[04:28] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, http://pastium.org/view/82668ca95367d42005dcb9bef8ed2f31
[04:28] <Blue11> c_nick: netbook works well with metacity....
[04:28] <c_nick> so Blue11 just removing compiz and compiz core worked for you ?
[04:29] <tweaksource> thechris, http://www.medibuntu.org/
[04:29] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, it happened after you told me to do source ~/.profile
[04:29] <Blue11> c_nick: I never installed them...
[04:29] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: run that command again
[04:29] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I did  that already
[04:29] <sdwrage> meaning after I reverted
[04:29] <sdwrage> I redid source
[04:29] <sdwrage> and still... no go
[04:29] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and it did complete without errors?
[04:29] <tweaksource> good night, all
[04:29] <scunizi> Trek: Obsidian1723-2 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[04:30] <sdwrage> yeah it completed without errors
[04:30] <Blue11> c_nick: you should be able to select system/preferences/appearance/visual effects/none
[04:30] <Obsidian1723-2> scun replace my current PPA with that one?
[04:30] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: the errors you pasted, that is whenever you open up a terminal?
[04:30] <c_nick> Blue yes i did that also i did sudo aptitude remove compiz compiz-core and also removed an additional package under compiz in Package Manager.. now.. i want to know after updating etc.. will it give me problems.. or am i supposed to upgrade my comp.i want to work and dont want to lose my work so taking extra precautions
[04:30] <Trek> Obsidian: no, add it in addition to the current ppa
[04:30] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, oh wait... that was the errors from source
[04:30] <sdwrage> sorry
[04:30] <c_nick> Blue11: yes i did that also i did sudo aptitude remove compiz compiz-core and also removed an additional package under compiz in Package Manager.. now.. i want to know after updating etc.. will it give me problems.. or am i supposed to upgrade my comp.i want to work and dont want to lose my work so taking extra precautions
[04:31] <Trek> Obsidian: just incase something goes screwy
[04:31] <thechris> what else is needed for dvd playback than libdvdcss2?
[04:31] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ok, that is good in that we know the errors were in your .profile file
[04:31] <edday> no, it is useless, it has only 2 options, 1st is  Show the screen for choosing who will login in,  2nd is login as *** automatically
[04:31] <c_nick> Blue11: but then why does CTRL ALT F7  give me blank screen
[04:31] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, but I took the two lines I added at the end out
[04:31] <developer> thechris: install w32codecs too
[04:31] <sdwrage> and saved
[04:31] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: can you rename .profile to .profile_bak and reopen bash?
[04:31] <Blue11> c_nick: I don't know - like I said, I never installed it on a net book but usually choosing none disables compiz but leaves it installed -
[04:31] <sdwrage> k
[04:31] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: not sure what ppa you have.. there's more to the address for the repo listing.. and you'll have to import the pgp key.. google PPA ubuntu mozilla
[04:32] <s> hi
[04:32] <c_nick> Blue11: ok
[04:32] <c_nick> thanks
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> Id love to google, but without Firefox.... how?
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> thats what I have now
[04:32] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2: terminal -> w3m
[04:32] <Trek> that lets you surf the interwebz
[04:32] <Blue11> c_nick: the great thing about linux - you are your own sys admin - the bad thing about linux - you are your own sys admin
[04:32] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: hey you can try firefox 3.6 from mozillas website
[04:33] <ardchoille> Blue11: indeed
[04:33] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: that's the ppa I have.. it seems to update daily.. with FF open click Help/About to see what version.. mine now says Namoroka
[04:33] <edday> no other options, does UNR simplify that utility?
[04:33] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, done
[04:33] <c_nick> Blue11: :)
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and luck? can you sudo and all of that?
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: any luck*
[04:33] <Walrus23> i want to return to the original ubuntu, after converting to kubuntu and not liking it i want to go back
[04:33] <sdwrage> nope :(
[04:33] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: just download the tar.gz file extract it and run firefox script inside that
[04:33] <Walrus23> i cant figure out how
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: what error do you get?
[04:33] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, no :\
[04:33] <Blue11> okay taking a break bbl...how that helps some c_nick
[04:33] <c_nick> Blue11: what your hardware description
[04:33] <Obsidian1723-2> Can someone give me the direct Deb download for Firefox 3.6? I can wget it
[04:33] <Walrus23> please2help
[04:33] <sdwrage> hold on
[04:33] <ardchoille> !puregnome | Walrus23
[04:33] <sdwrage> sdwrage@sdwrage-desktop:/usr$ sudo nano
[04:33] <sdwrage> Command 'sudo' is available in '/usr/bin/sudo'
[04:33] <sdwrage> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[04:33] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: there is no need of .deb
[04:34] <sdwrage> ick sorry about that
[04:34] <FloodBot1> sdwrage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <scunizi> Walrus23: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop then follow the link I'll have ubottu send you a link to remove kde
[04:34] <Obsidian1723-2> tar.gz then?
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: just download the tar.gz file
[04:34] <sdwrage> yeah I know floodbot sheesh
[04:34] <scunizi> !puregnome | Walrus23
[04:34] <Walrus23> ugh, i want to be able to run both
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: there is no need to compile it
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2:
[04:34] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ^^
[04:34] <Walrus23> but i want to swap completely back to gnome for a little while
[04:34] <scunizi> Walrus23: oh.. then just install ubuntu-desktop and on the login screen change "sessions"
[04:35] <Walrus23> ahh
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: did you edit /etc/environment?
[04:35] <Walrus23> then i lick on the settings menu and it doesnt like me
[04:35] <Walrus23> click**
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: regardless, can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[04:35] <Walrus23> wireless keyboard ftl
[04:35] <edday> Is Login Screen Settings in UNR different from desktop edition?
[04:35] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, sure
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: if it is only one line paste it in here
[04:36] <thechris> developer, the guide at mediabuntu fails.  from what I recall, this was a lot easier last year
[04:36] <airtonix> Walrus23, once you install kde on a system running gnome, you cen never get rid of it without much pain
[04:36] <Walrus23> ahh
[04:36] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, what does source do anyways?
[04:36] <Walrus23> i should have fesized the partitions and separated them -.-
[04:36] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, http://pastium.org/view/24c7de02f37b074332de298e2466b551
[04:37] <airtonix> Walrus23, or you should have tried it in a virtual machine first
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: it reads the file for your shell, when you make changes to .bashrc or the like, source is used to update the shell with the information in that file
[04:37] <Out_Cold> why does ln -s /path/to/file /usr/bin/file produce this??    ls: cannot access /usr/bin/file: Too many levels of symbolic links
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: is that your /etc/environment?
[04:37] <thechris> and now I get "software index is broken"
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: because if it is then that is clearly the problem
[04:37] <Walrus23> nnngh ona 1.6GHz mobile centrino lapto, you're pushing it to run xVM to play with windows 3.1, let alona a virtual ubuntu install
[04:38] <airtonix> Out_Cold, first assumption : your target is already a symbolic link ?
[04:38] <Walrus23> nvm
[04:38] <Out_Cold> airtonix, ok that's very possible
[04:38] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I echoed my $PATH and it gave me GRAILS/bin....
[04:38] <Walrus23> there was one other thing, but i've forgotten
[04:39] <thechris> NO_PUBKEY
[04:39] <sdwrage> so apparently I overwrote my $PATH
[04:39] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a 9800GTX+ and ubuntu insists on installing 18X drivers when there are 195.X drivers available. Does anybody know a way to force it? I installed it yesterday through the .bin installer + nvidia-xconfig and today it is like if I hadn't installed it before :/
[04:39] <sdwrage> is there an easy way to reset $PATH?
[04:39] <Walrus23> oh yea, easy/difficuilt/impossible to run ubuntu on a G4 eMac?
[04:39] <sdwrage> maybe I should try to restart...
[04:39] <deusr> someone help me? I've tested all modules gspca and still getting the message Camera not found
[04:39] <Obsidian1723-2> Ok got ff downloaded, now what?
[04:39] <Walrus23> as well as mac OS
[04:39] <Out_Cold> airtonix, hmm.. file 'file' gives 'file' : POSIX shell script text executable
[04:39] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: that is what the /etc/environment is for, did you pastebin me the contents of that file or was that ~/.profile
[04:39] <thechris> what are all the apt-sources files?
[04:40] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Uninstall the 18X thing first in Hardware Drivers (if you haven't done that).
[04:40] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, yes
[04:40] <thechris> There is a repository not in sources.list
[04:40] <sdwrage> http://pastium.org/view/24c7de02f37b074332de298e2466b551
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: I never installed it in first place :P
[04:40] <thechris> and i need it to not be anywhere
[04:40] <XVirus> How can I prevent normal users from mounting usb flash disks ?
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: but it insists on downloading it when I try to enable compiz :(
[04:40] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: that was /etc/environment? if it was then could you open that file up for editing?
[04:40] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Oh really? That is crazy. :\
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: totally o.O
[04:40] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, no its not... it was ~/.profile
[04:41] <Out_Cold> XVirus, remove them from the mounting group.. usually this is auto disabled i think
[04:41] <scunizi> XVirus: there's probably a group you can remove them from
[04:41] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ah, what is /etc/environment?
[04:41] <sdwrage> hold on..
[04:41] <XVirus> Out_Cold: scunizi: what is the name of the group ?
[04:41] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: and duh! it had 173 enabled :/
[04:41] <DARKGuy> wtf with nvidia and ubuntu, their drivers are always outdated :(
[04:41] <Out_Cold> XVirus, not too sure... will look now
[04:41] <thechris> well it seems instead of dvd playback, i broke apt
[04:41] <XVirus> plugdev ?
[04:41] <scunizi> XVirus: check out Out_Cold 's post just above mine
[04:41] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[04:41] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: See !latest for a reason.
[04:41] <thechris> Anyone know how to fix apt?
[04:42] <sdwrage> but I had a few things on the path like ruby, php, etc
[04:42] <DARKGuy> !latest
[04:42] <Obsidian1723-2> Scun, I have Firefox downloaded, now what?
[04:42] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: Ah I see XD. Well at least it's not debian @.@. Is there a way to have the latest of the latest ?
[04:42] <osirisx11> when i try to install mplayer it becomes broken because of libdvdpau: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9
[04:42] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: try "source /etc/environment"
[04:42] <sdwrage> k..
[04:42] <Out_Cold> XVirus, it may be plugdev but i'd confirm this with someone else
[04:43] <XVirus> Out_Cold: it's not plugdev anyways
[04:43] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: For your Nvidia issues, you might want to try #nvidia -- Also, if you want to have latest of the latest (in everything), consider using ArchLinux at the least.
[04:43] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, perfect, that worked
[04:43] <deusr> hellow!!!
[04:43] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: I have, but it's a pain to maintain, so that's why I moved to Ubuntu to *use* the PC instead of tweak with it, but this is ridiculous.
[04:43] <sdwrage> now where should I be adding to path? I am trying to follow this installation article: http://www.grails.org/installation
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: good, double check the .profile you were trying to use as there was some sort of error in it
[04:44] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ^^
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ah ok one second
[04:44] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: and this isn't an nvidia issue, it's an *ubuntu* issue :/
[04:44] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, thx for the help btw
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: yup
[04:44] <thechris> i need to un-update apt
[04:44] <thechris> Does anyone know how to un-update apt?
[04:45] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: It also does mean they might know how to overcome this *ubuntu* issue -- if that's an *ubuntu* issue or *nvidia* issue.
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo apt-get --force-yes install libdvdpau
[04:45] <Out_Cold> XVirus, i'm pretty sure it's plugdev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[04:45] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: thanks for the fix but can you educate me a bit too?
[04:45] <Out_Cold> "or in a more flexible way, practical if you have several users, allow for instance the users in the plugdev group (usually those who are meant to be able to mount removable disks, desktop users) to create files and sub-directories on the disk:"
[04:45] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: well in that you're right, I guess I'll give it a shot
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: And the fact that you said you moved to Ubuntu to *use* the PC, forget about 19X, just use the *d* thing. Don't tweak it. :-)
[04:46] <XVirus> Out_Cold: the user is not in plugdev and he can mount usb flash disks by clicking their icon in nautilus side pane
[04:46] <thechris> guess i'm not throwing out enough buzzwords
[04:46] <deusr> hellloo!
[04:46] <Out_Cold> XVirus, read the link
[04:46] <deusr> help me!
[04:46] <XVirus> Out_Cold: fine .. thanks
[04:46] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: what directory did you checkout grails from?
[04:46] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: well into I mean
[04:46] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: XD I would, but video drivers are very, -very- important for me to have updated :P.... software can stay on "stable" for all I care xD
[04:47] <loops> thechris, do you want to downgrade the application "apt"?
[04:47] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, currently it sits in ~/grails
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ~/grails?
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: alright
[04:47] <Out_Cold> XVirus, what's the system on the flash? fat?
[04:47] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: E: Couldn't find package libdvdpau
[04:47] <XVirus> Out_Cold: yes
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and can you confirm that ~/grails/grails/bin exists?
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: yeah. that command will force the 'overwriting' of the already existing /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1 file. however, if you ever remove the ' pnvidia-185-libvdpau' package, you system would still be expecting that file to be on it
[04:47] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I will dbl check
[04:47] <Out_Cold> XVirus, what other groups is that user apart of?
[04:48] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, its ~/grails/bin
[04:48] <thechris> loops, no, i want to undo whatever added mediabuntu to apt's list of repositories
[04:48] <XVirus> Out_Cold: dialout, fax, cdrom, tape, audio, dip, video, netdev, sambashare
[04:48] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok, maybe it's libvdpau1, sorry
[04:48] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: alright, then add PATH="$HOME/grails/bin:$HOME/grails/ant/bin:$PATH"
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo apt-get --force-yes install libdvdpau1
[04:48] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: to your profile
[04:49] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: .profile I mean
[04:49] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and then source it
[04:49] <loops> thechris, okay..  try going into   system -> administration -> software sources    and remove that repo
[04:50] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:50] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: no entries for anything starting with libdvdp
[04:50] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok lemme try that
[04:50] <Out_Cold> XVirus, IIRC last time i made a seperate user, i had to su root to mount it.. as i wasn't in the plugdev group. maybe there are mounting permissions that are overriding the group?
[04:50] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: well just in case, this seems to fix it ^_^ -> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: hmmm, sorry. hang on. let me read the error message again!
[04:50] <XVirus> Out_Cold: could it be my /etc/sudoers ? .. give me a sec
[04:51] <thechris> loops, wow, that seems to have worked.  i wonder what non sources.list file it got that from?
[04:51] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, now I need to set JAVA_HOME
[04:51] <sdwrage> apparently thats not set... im guessing same spot?
[04:51] <loops> thechris, dunno.. but shouldn't be a problem
[04:51] <Out_Cold> XVirus, if they are in the sudoers file then i would assume that would override the plugdev
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: please try the following and tell me what you get....
[04:51] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: make sure java is install, it should be set automatically
[04:51] <scunizi> XVirus: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-disable-usb-mass-storage-device-usb-drive-in-linux-651262/
[04:51] <XVirus> Out_Cold: they user is very restricted in the sudoers file .. but let me check something
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Thanks for the head up.
[04:52] <thechris> loops, i still get "software index is broken"
[04:52] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, hrm good point :P
[04:52] <kbrosnan> Obsidian1723-2: sudo apt-get purge firefox xulrunner
[04:52] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ls libvdp*
[04:52] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: no prob :p
[04:52] <XVirus> scunizi: this isn't what I want
[04:52] <kbrosnan> Obsidian1723-2: then sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:52] <Obsidian1723-2> kb will try
[04:52] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: no matches
[04:52] <loops> thechris, at a command prompt type:    sudo apt-get install -f
[04:53] <XVirus> Out_Cold: it's not an /etc/sudoers issue :-(
[04:53] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: i'm not sure what's happening. the error message leads me to really believe that the following file exists on your system --> /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> wont let me purcge it
[04:54] <Silver_Swords> Obsidian1723-2: go to synaptic package manager, edit tab, click 'fix broken packages'
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> tried that
[04:54] <Out_Cold> XVirus, perhaps you can get the rclocal to remove the usb module?
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> sudo apt-get purge firefox xulrunner
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> Building dependency tree
[04:54] <thechris> loops, well, i don't really think it matters.  I can't get dvds to play.  I don't know why, i can play mpegs, have vlc, and have dvdcss
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> Reading state information... Done
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>   firefox: Depends: firefox-branding but it is not going to be installed or
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>                     abrowser-branding but it is not going to be installed
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>   firefox-3.5-branding: Depends: firefox-branding but it is not going to be installed
[04:54] <FloodBot1> Obsidian1723-2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I don't want to disable usb
[04:55] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: it actually didn't automatically do it for me, add this to your .profile (after install java): export JAVA_HOME=/usr/bin/java/
[04:55] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I'm setting a very restricted environment where the user can only mount a usb flash disk by double clicking a shell script on his desktop that mounts the thing in read only mode
[04:55] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: i know another way to try and fix this
[04:55] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok ill add that
[04:56] <julio_> Isnt RTL8187 driver supported by kismet?
[04:56] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier:   mplayer: Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:56] <Obsidian1723-2> :(
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok, try the --> apt-get -f install  .... then
[04:56] <XVirus> Out_Cold: any more clues ?
[04:57] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: hey I need to go, it looks like that should do it but if not then I'm sure someone else in here can help you out.  good luck
[04:57] <Out_Cold> i'm still stuck on the plugdev group.... not too sure where to go from there.
[04:57] <julio_> user of kismet, is the source driver RTL8187 not supported by kismet?
[04:57] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:57] <Obsidian1723-2> am I just hosed?
[04:58] <Out_Cold> XVirus, maybe a reboot after the removal of the plugdev group to initialize the change?
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo mv /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1 /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1.old
[04:58] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I'm sure i did that :-(
[04:58] <XVirus> Out_Cold: a reboot is not even necessary
[04:59] <Out_Cold> i didn't think so :o/
[04:59] <thechris> meh, i've wasted all the time i care to on this.  I'll just use something that actually plays dvds for now and get this computer set up later
[04:59] <Out_Cold> XVirus, can i see a pastebin of the group and sudoers?
[04:59] <sdwrage> Hey guys... getting this path error... grails: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly; can not execute: /usr/bin/java//bin/java
[04:59] <sdwrage> any ideas?
[04:59] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: done, now try to install mplayer again?
[05:00] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I remove the user from sudoers so there is no need to check it
[05:00] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: yes.. try --> apt-get -f install
[05:00] <Out_Cold> oooh...... XVirus maybe remove the entry from /etc/mtab???
[05:00] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: still same error like apt-get is expecting it to be there regardless of whether it is there or not
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: strange. i'm not sure what to make of this
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: you're sure the following file is not on your system? --> /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:02] <sdwrage> anyone?
[05:02] <sdwrage> Hey guys... getting this path error... grails: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly; can not execute: /usr/bin/java//bin/java
[05:02] <XVirus> Out_Cold: the entry inside mtab is the one in my script that the user uses to mount
[05:02] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: it is
[05:02] <XVirus> Out_Cold: not the entry of the /media/drive
[05:03] <Losha> osirisx11: just edit /var/lib/dpkg/status (make a copy first) and remove the paragraph for  nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9. This will make your system forget all about the nvidia package and should allow you do install mplayer....
[05:03] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I gtg now .. will be back in 30 minutes .. if you're not here by then .. I want to thank you a lot for your time
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: it is there??
[05:03] <sdwrage> nvm got it
[05:03] <sdwrage> :)
[05:03] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: yes
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok.. do the following --> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:04] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: then try to install mplayer again. bet it works this time
[05:04] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: i don't think it was earlier, pastebinning you
[05:04] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. I've tried sudo apt-get -f install/purge/autoremove etc, all no go.
[05:04] <julio_> Hi guys!! Do you know how to make the rtl8187 drive work in the kismet???
[05:04] <Out_Cold> i'm going to eat.... please forward all my mail to ubottu
[05:05] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok
[05:05] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mc5fd17f
[05:05] <Out_Cold> julio_, use aircrack-utils.. more specifically the driver util... airdriver-ng maybe??
[05:05] <Out_Cold> now going
[05:06] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: that did work!
[05:06] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: thanks!!
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: cool. thought it would
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: you're welcome. enjoy
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: :-)
[05:07] <julio_> Out_Cold, How can I use that "aircrack-utils"? I just know to use kismet and then aircrack, and the kismet is not identifying my drive
[05:08] <blakkheim> julio_: i really don't think you should be trying to use those tools without any knowledge of how to configure them
[05:08] <Out_Cold> i agree
[05:08] <julio_> blakkheim, i'm learning
[05:09] <Out_Cold> julio_, you aren't going to make any sense of what kismit spits out anyways
[05:09] <Obsidian1723-2> Well forcing the install worked
[05:09] <julio_> blakkheim, the problem is that the rtl8187 is not listed in the kismet site
[05:09] <blakkheim> julio_: learning would be reading the documentation, not asking questions that you can find the answers for yourself on their wiki/man pages
[05:09] <testink_> yay
[05:09] <Out_Cold> julio_, i was using the rtl8187 for monitoring... not kismet
[05:09] <julio_> blakkheim, my drive is not listed in the documentation, so I tried the mac80211 and it didn work
[05:10] <blakkheim> julio_: so then why are you still asking?
[05:10] <paissad> how can i grab the kernel version as named by www.kernel.org  ( for example 2.6.32.2) instead of the conventionnal names that distributions use , for example, ubuntu would name his kernel (2.6.32-generic) & gentoo ( 2.6.32-foo) ... knowing that are the same kernels
[05:10] <Out_Cold> oh... no it won't work in the mac driver
[05:10] <julio_> blakkheim, Cause nothing has worked and I wanna see if you have the solution
[05:11] <blakkheim> julio_: if nothing has worked it's either over your head or not GOING to work.
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> paissad: you download the kernel from kernel.org. then you configure the kernel. then you compile it, and finally, install it
[05:11] <julio_> blakkheim, haha
[05:11] <paissad> onetinsoldier, i know how to do that, but that's not my question mate
[05:11] <julio_> blakkheim, well man I'm just trying to find something here
[05:11] <Out_Cold> julio_, start here http://forums.remote-exploit.org/general-discussion/18552-install-rtl8187-driver-ubuntu.html
[05:12] <Pelo> evening folks, anyone know a command to tell me the video driver i'M using ?
[05:12] <julio_> Out_Cold, thanks I'll take a look!
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> paissad: ok. sorry. guess i didn't quite know what you meant by 'grab'
[05:12] <paissad> onetinsoldier, how can we retreive the orginal kernel version without doing regexp on the uname -r | a
[05:12] <Out_Cold> and a heads up julio_ don't ask those wonderful people stupid questions or they will shun you
[05:13] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[05:13] <obscurant1st> hey I messed up with the sources list how can i revert ioit back to factory settings?
[05:14] <obscurant1st> now when i try to install firefox all those pre release things comes up
[05:14] <obscurant1st> i dont want that... :(
[05:14] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[05:14] <julio_> Out_Cold, Thanks for the tips!
[05:14] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, just remove the links that you added or # them out
[05:14] <Rubbberducky> Anyone know where to get drivers for my realtek audio?  Or how to make it work.  haha...
 i dont know which i hv added or how many i hv added.
[05:15] <obscurant1st> can i get it from internet i meant the default list?
[05:15] <obscurant1st> n btw # them out means?
[05:16]  * Rubbberducky hates realtek. :(
[05:16]  * reactor too
[05:16] <Rubbberducky> lol good
[05:16] <reactor> xD
[05:17] <Rubbberducky> does yours at least work??
[05:17] <Losha> onetinsoldier: I read it the same as you did. I wondered if there were any ubuntu-specific diffs applied to standard kernel for ubuntu?
[05:17] <reactor> Rubbberducky, yes
[05:17] <plouffe> In Hardware Drivers it says "Alternate Atheros madwifi driver" "This driver is activated but currently not in use". How can I make it be used?
[05:17] <troopperi> obscurant1st: wich version of ubuntu you use?
[05:17] <obscurant1st> karmic 9.10 trooperi
[05:18] <Rubbberducky> reactor: mine does not.  Did you have to DL drivers?
[05:18] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, here is my list from /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/m623169e8 and # means comment them out, or make the lines not read by your computer
[05:18] <reactor> Rubbberducky, I have realtek adsl router given me by isp, but it drops my connection if it thinks it's "overloaded"
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> Losha: i'm pretty sure there are
[05:18] <reactor> Rubbberducky, do u mean realtek soundcard?
[05:18] <IdleOne> plouffe: select it and click enable at the bottom of the window
[05:18] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: ohhh lame.  I have built in realtek audio. I hate it.
[05:18] <obscurant1st> thanks Out_Cold
[05:18] <obscurant1st> I will try with that..:D
[05:19] <plouffe> IdleOne, there is no enable button . Only close and Deactivate
[05:19] <reactor> Rubbberducky, no I didn't dl any driverz while I had builtin realtek: it woked
[05:19] <Rubbberducky> reactor: Well youre lucky. :(
[05:19] <plouffe> IdleOne, in the Hardware Drivers window
[05:19] <IdleOne> plouffe: not sure then sorry
[05:20] <dreki> is there a way to control what core a process runs on?
[05:20] <reactor> Rubbberducky, I zapped it with 220 by accident then it burnt and I bought external souncard :P
[05:20] <onetinsoldier> Losha: if you look at this page, over on the right, you'll see an 'orig' and 'diff' downloads --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-image-2.6.32-11-generic
[05:20] <Pelo> plouffe, what are you trying to do ?
[05:20] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would compare the lists instead of copying from mine
[05:20] <obscurant1st> ooops..
[05:21] <obscurant1st> i aleady copied it..
[05:21] <obscurant1st> any problem?>?? :o
[05:21] <Losha> onetinsoldier: yeah, I see it mentions 'ubuntu patches'....
[05:21] <onetinsoldier> Losha: yep
[05:21] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: I have a beautiful Presonus Firestudio mobile audio interface that is not supported. :(
[05:21] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, well could be that you are using another distro or perhaps the servers are located half way around the world?
[05:21] <plouffe> Pelo trying to get my wifi to work
[05:21] <reactor> Rubbberducky, huh? wht is it?
[05:22] <Pelo> plouffe, ok, carry on, I can't help with that
[05:22] <Silver_Swords> anyone plays urban terror 4.1 here?
[05:22] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: Its a Firewire interface used for high quality recording with microphones
[05:22] <obscurant1st> ohh <Out_Cold> .. :(
[05:22] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: might be with "jack".. medibuntu repos will give you various higher end audio programs and "jack"
[05:22] <obscurant1st> anyway atleast it is working fine now i think
[05:22] <reactor> Rubbberducky, cool
[05:23] <Losha> paissad: I think the answer to your question is that the original string is lost when you set a new kernel name, so you'll have to use a regexp
[05:23] <obscurant1st> i did al these things for updating the firefox to 3.6
[05:23] <reactor> Rubbberducky, maybe it does need proprietary driv3z0rz?
[05:23] <obscurant1st> but i ended up in installing 3.6 pre
[05:23] <obscurant1st> :(
[05:23] <paissad> Losha, ok
[05:23] <Rubbberducky> scunizi: I am running Ubuntu Studio because it came with all those doo hickeys, I just dont have the slightest idea how to use them and I guess my interface isnt supported
[05:23] <obscurant1st> yuo have any idea on how to install this firefox 3.6?
[05:24] <sargento> Is there any command to view my CD drives, like lsusb or lspci?
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[05:24] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i havent tried yet but why do you need 3.6?
[05:24] <obscurant1st> actually 1 cool option is ther with firefox and some more bla bla features..
[05:25] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, if you must install build-essentials then compile the 3.6 source from mozilla
[05:25] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: firewire sometimes requires different libraries to function.. I have a firewire pci card that functioned in 6.06 but doesn't in 8.10-9.04-9.10.. at least yet.. I use it for my camera
[05:25] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, or search for a 3.6 deb online...
[05:25] <obscurant1st> the cool thing is when i liked is when we hover over the firefox themes in the theme gallery the whole firefox changes to that theme, a nice preview feature.
[05:25] <obscurant1st> i liked it.
[05:25] <MikeGuo> sargento: why you need that command? your cdrom can't work?
[05:26] <Rubbberducky> proprietary: Its things like that that make me want to just use the built in sound.  that doesnt seem to work, lol.
[05:26] <tolpico> Would someone please help me install nvidia drivers on kubuntu? In hardware drivers dialog it doesnt show the drivers. How should I get it?
[05:26] <obscurant1st> its not available yet. i  mean the .deb.
[05:26] <obscurant1st> :(
[05:26] <Rubbberducky> scunizi**
[05:26] <MikeGuo> sargento:  may  be ls /dev/sdx something,  x point to sda or sdb.
[05:26] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, might not work the same way in linux if that was the windows version
[05:26] <ardchoille> tolpico: you need to askin #kubuntu
[05:26] <obscurant1st> oh.... :|
[05:26] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, build from source then.. it's easier than you think
[05:26] <sargento> MaikeGuo, that's right. It appears on Computer like CD Drive, I inserted an audio CD but It doesn't mount it
[05:26] <obscurant1st> any thats why i wanted to update to the new version.
[05:26] <MikeGuo> tolpico: you can downlosd from nv web site, and directly install it.
[05:27] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: understandable
[05:27] <MikeGuo> or just the software package manage for install nvidia  deb package.
[05:27] <sargento> MikeGuo,  that's right. It appears on Computer like CD Drive, I inserted an audio CD but It doesn't mount it. I double-cliked it but nothing happens
[05:27] <Maximo> hey guys I have Karmic 9:10 and I need to go back 8:04 LTS ...how do I do this?
[05:27] <obscurant1st> oh, i donno why i didnt think about that, btw from where can i download the firefox sources, if its not too much to ask,,
[05:28] <Maximo> new to all this...
[05:28] <obscurant1st> I'm also searchin, bt if you knw pls giv me the link
[05:28] <Losha> Maximo: you have to install 8.04 from scratch, there is no downgrade capability....
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: you install 8.04 LTS fresh
[05:28] <PureKaoz> Sup?
[05:28] <Maximo> What just insert cd and thats it?
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: are you just wanting the stability of an LTS release?
[05:29] <Maximo> no...
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: why do you need 8.04? just curious...
[05:29] <Maximo> just screwed my system up
[05:29] <sacarlson> ﻿﻿Maximo you might want to run Ubuntu 8.04 in Vertualbox in Ubuntu 9.1 , not sure why you want 8.04
[05:29] <PureKaoz> Hrm... Whats up?
[05:29] <Maximo> is the only one have available at the moment
[05:29] <Maximo> see?
[05:29] <Maximo> no more
[05:30] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would start at firefox homepage
[05:30] <Silver_Swords> anyone having sound problems when playing urban terror 4.1 for linux?
[05:30] <ghthor_> I'm trying to move a linux system from one partition to another, its all contained in one partition. Everything kinda works but update-grub is still pointing to the old partition number for the kernels
[05:30] <Losha> Maximo: yes, just put in the cd and install. The catch is, you lose any 9.10 configuration. Save your /home somewhere safe if it has anything important in it.
[05:30] <Maximo> another question: suppose just wanna reinstall Karmic 9:10 how do I do that?
[05:30] <obscurant1st> Yeah I am doing it <Out_Cold>
[05:30] <obscurant1st> :D
[05:31] <obscurant1st> n now joined #firefox to ask this
[05:31] <obscurant1st> :D
[05:31] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would assume that their topic would tell you such info
[05:32] <Maximo> Losha: nothing important just alittle program I run thats it...
[05:32] <Out_Cold> | Firefox 3.6 released http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/all.html |
[05:32] <Maximo> Losha: how do I back it up?
[05:32] <Losha> Maximo: same answer, put in the cd and install. Maybe I'm missing something, because the answer seems so simple?
[05:33] <Losha> Maximo: copy it somewhere: to a blank cd or dvd, or to a different disk, or to a spare partition. Depends on your hardware....
[05:33] <Maximo> Losha: I upgraded it from previous version into 9:10
[05:33] <munk> hey all. I just accidentally sudo make install a program and now it has to be run as root. I am willing to bet if I reran the install as a normal user it would fail trying to over write the existing files. Is there any way to go back?
[05:34] <Vishal__> Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 broadband issue
[05:34] <Vishal__> pppoeconf not connecting
[05:34] <Maximo> Losha: oh I see
[05:34] <Out_Cold> munk, you have to sudo make install....
[05:34] <Vishal__> any help pl?
[05:34] <wolter> hi, does anybody know why the ubuntu pastebin is now private?
[05:35] <MikeGuo> Vishal_: what's that? I mean your problem.
[05:35] <munk> Out_Cold, but now the program has to be run as root. It never did before.
[05:35] <Vishal__> pppoeconf not connecting
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, change the permissions of the /usr/bin/file to 777
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, that's assuming that you want anyone to access it
[05:35] <MikeGuo> Vishal__: did you make sure you did the correct configuration?
[05:35] <munk> what about the permissions of all its dependencies?
[05:35] <IdleOne> wolter: what do you mean by private?
[05:35] <MikeGuo> and any logs?
[05:35] <munk> or will it grant access?
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, just the bin
[05:36] <munk> ok, thanks!
[05:36] <Losha> Maximo: it's ok to ask beginner questions here...
[05:36] <Maximo> you know it's
[05:36] <munk> Oh, I know this is the wrong channel but is anyone here having trouble with transcoder? it fails to load the export modules
[05:36] <Out_Cold> munk, do a "locate 'file' | grep bin"
[05:36] <wolter> IdleOne, that you need a login to use them
[05:37] <IdleOne> wolter: paste.ubuntu.com does not require a login
[05:37] <chipgeri> i installed eclipse from software center. now hao to add PDT to it?
[05:37] <Losha> munk: if it's a ubuntu app, it's ok to ask about it here. Which export modules?
[05:38] <munk> the xvid codec fails to load
[05:38] <munk> and the ffmpeg codec
[05:39] <munk> it was working fine before Koala
[05:39] <Losha> munk: When you say transcoder, do you mean transcode? Or some other app. Got an exact error message?
[05:39] <wolter> IdleOne, oh, looks like they fixed it
[05:39] <munk> I even recompiled transcoder (ie the make install)
[05:39] <munk> sorr, transcode
[05:39] <sargento> My Ubuntu 9.10 doesnt mount automatically my Audio CD, aby clue?
[05:40] <munk> [export_xvid4.so] v0.0.6 (2007-08-11) (video) XviD 1.0.x series (aka API 4.0) | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM
[05:40] <munk> [export_xvid4.so] warning: Encoder initialization failed
[05:40] <munk> [encoder.c] warning: video export module error: init failed
[05:40] <munk> [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder
[05:40] <FloodBot1> munk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <Billiard> sargento: audio cd's are not mounted, they dont have a filesystem
[05:40] <Out_Cold> Billiard, isn't the iso mounted?
[05:40] <munk> I have tried xvid version 1.0.2 and version 1.2.2
[05:41] <sargento> Billiard, Sorry, I don't know the right term but I cant listen to my CD I just inserted.
[05:41] <Billiard> sargento: which player are you trying to use?
[05:41] <Losha> munk: which os version?
[05:41] <munk> Karmic Koala
[05:41] <Pelo> those the live cd have a menu option for memcheck ?
[05:42] <Awesome3000> Yes
[05:42] <Awesome3000> I think so
[05:42] <Out_Cold> Pelo, if you are asking if ubuntu live cd has memcheck then yes
[05:42] <jake_> Alt tab has decided to stop working.  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:42] <Pelo> Out_Cold, yes that's what I was asking,  it'S been awhile so I didn' trememer
[05:42] <Losha> munk: you might need the medibuntu version. The standard version is missing mp3 because of licensing issues. www.medibuntu.org
[05:42] <sargento> Billiard, I tried Sound Juicer, I checked on Computer and there it appear as CD Drive but I cannot access to the content of it
[05:42] <Ari_Lazarus_> Hey, is OpenGL included by default in Jaunty?
[05:43] <munk> I just built transcode version 1.1.5 with no errors
[05:43] <Awesome3000> Pelo: just checked 9.04 has on the main menu
[05:43] <munk> and I installed the 'lame' packages that transcode uses for mp3
[05:43] <Out_Cold> munk, do you have gstreamer good/bad/ugly pluggins?
[05:43] <Pelo> thanks Awesome3000
[05:43] <tim> unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 in firefox can anyone tell me what this means or how to fix it
[05:43] <munk> it was working just fine in Heron
[05:44] <Pelo> munk, need to play mp3  ?   install lame
[05:44] <Losha> munk: dunno then. Try googling the error message....
[05:44] <munk> yea, googled the hell out of it
[05:44] <Billiard> sargento: maybe you need to choose your drive in the sound juicer preferences
[05:44] <munk> tried posting on the transcode newsgroup but it seems to be blocking my posts :S
[05:45] <Out_Cold> munk, sudo apt-get install gnome-restricted-extras?
[05:45] <Out_Cold> ooh.. ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:46] <sargento> Billiard, thanks Billiard, it worked with my DVD Drive, I think the problem is on CD Drive.
[05:46] <Billiard> sargento: ok np
[05:46] <Ari_Lazarus_> !opengl
[05:46] <munk> I have all the gstreamer plugins
[05:46] <Ari_Lazarus_> :(
[05:46] <Losha> !medibuntu
[05:47] <munk> is there any program that uses the xvid encoder that I can test? to make sure it is transcode and not xvid?
[05:47] <Out_Cold> munk, vlc plays anything
[05:47] <osirisx11> almost every day at least once a day, my wifi drops and refuses to come back until i do an ifconfig down/up on it, then it works fine again for the next day or so. any ideas?
[05:47] <tim> unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 how can i fix this or what does it mean
[05:48] <Linux-CLI> hi
[05:48] <Linux-CLI> Does the Creative Commons License allow for printing? (eg, a WikiBook from Wikipedia)
[05:48] <Losha> munk: ffmpeg, mencoder, dvdrip. But seriously, check out medibuntu first...
[05:48] <Pelo> Linux-CLI, not sure this is the right place to ask
[05:48] <Fudge> using 8.10 how can you update to gnome 2.29 from 2.26.1
[05:49] <osirisx11> Linux-CLI: i am pretty sure it does, ask #wikipedia
[05:49] <Losha> osirisx11: I think you're lucky you have a workaround...
[05:49] <effigy> /topic
[05:49] <Windopain> what kind of hoops do i need to jump through in order to force numlock on at startup and after login?  basically, i always want numlock on
[05:50] <Myke1> isnt Numlock a Bios thing?
[05:50] <Myke1> on my Motherboard it is
[05:50] <osirisx11> Losha: not an acceptable answer my friend
[05:51] <Losha> Windopain: apt-cache search numlock talks about something called numlockx
[05:51] <Out_Cold> Windopain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[05:51] <Windopain> thx
[05:51] <Losha> osirisx11: good luck with that...
[05:51] <Linux-CLI> osirisx11: Asked there, they aren't helpful :S
[05:51] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[05:51] <tim> hi can someone help me  in firefox i get unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 what can i do to fix this
[05:52] <Awesome3000> !numlock | Windopain
[05:52] <osirisx11> Losha: my business is depending on internet access, you can't just expect a hack to be a solution
[05:53] <munk> why are applications in /usr/local/bin not found in the terminal?
[05:53] <Losha> munk: does your path include /usr/local/bin ?
[05:54] <munk> probably not, how do I add it?
[05:54] <Losha> osirisx11: in all seriousness, you're running a free OS. There are no warranties. You could write a shell script that runs ping periodically, and when it fails, does an ifconfig, I suppose....
[05:54] <infid> how come faillog doesn't show enteries, instead they go to auth.log by default in ubuntu?
[05:55] <osirisx11> Losha: :(
[05:55] <Losha> munk: running bash? Look for PATH in your .bashrc and add /usr/local/bin to it....
[05:56] <antonius> i got os x on sda2, XP on sda1, and would like to install ubuntu on sdb3....anyone know how this will work with grub and whatnot?  i would like to continue using XP's bootloader (so to not break it lol)
[05:57] <Pelo> antonius, when you install grub will overwrite the xp bootloader
[05:57] <tim> how can i fix the problem in firefox unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3
[05:58] <antonius> pelo: yes i know...i think there is an option to install grub to the same partition as /
[05:58] <Pelo> antonius,  if you donT insall grub , you won'T be able to boot ubuntu because the xp boot loader won'T see it
[05:58] <onetinsoldier> tim: have you tried the #firefox channel?
[05:58]  * osirisx11 waves to mattgyver
[05:58] <khetti> how do i disable mouse accel in games? xset m 0 0 doesnt do jack
[05:58] <Pelo> antonius, grub need to install in the boot sector
[05:59] <Fudge> is it possible just to upgrade to a later gnome version with apt-get?
[05:59] <antonius> Pelo: that sux...guess it's linux virtualbox's for me...darn I really miss linux too
[05:59] <baz> question for ya, I have had to switch back to debian as i find that xubuntu is not stable enough for my use, however I have found that debian xfce install is missing the nice themes included with xubuntu 9.10, any one know where in the directory tree they are installed
[05:59] <Pelo> Fudge,  no , you only get fixes and stuff from the repos, you only get new version with new releases
[05:59] <tim> no i'm not very good at this
[05:59] <ardchoille> baz: Ask in #xubuntu
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: you mean a version of gnome from a newer version of ubuntu?
[06:00] <baz> ha
[06:00] <Fudge> yes using 8.10
[06:00] <antonius> pelo: well, grub doesn't see OS X, for some reason, the chainloader option works fine with loading XP, but it seems it won't load my os x partition
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: nope. i don't hink you can
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: nope. i don't think* you can
[06:01] <Pelo> antonius, I don'T know about that part , you might want to ask in #grub but be very patient, it's not a busy channel
[06:01] <Losha> Fudge: that depends entirely on whether the ubuntu team bothered to put an upgraded version in the repository. Using synaptic, you should be able to see if there's a newer version available. If not, your only recourse is probably to compile it yourself, which would probably be a lot of work///
[06:01] <antonius> any mac users here?  does grub recognize ur os x partition?
[06:01] <Fudge> think might stear away from that thanks
[06:01] <antonius> pelos: thx again
[06:02] <Losha> Fudge: whats in the newer version that you can't live without?
[06:02] <Fudge> just fixes
[06:02] <justin_> has anyone tryed BURG?
[06:02] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[06:02] <sparky13> #xubuntu
[06:03] <sparky13> can some put a link in so I can get to the xubuntu irc?
[06:03] <ardchoille> sparky13: /join #xubuntu
[06:03] <Trek> #xubuntu sparky
[06:03] <sparky13> nothing happens when I click it lol :(
[06:04] <Losha> Fudge: well, gnome is actualyl a collection of apps. Some of them might have newer versions you can upgrade individually....
[06:04] <sparky13> nm ty
[06:04] <ardchoille> sparky13: typ ei what I poste
[06:04] <sparky13> got it :)
[06:05] <Ari_Lazarus_> Does anyone know if OpenGL is packaged with Ubuntu Jaunty? If not, is it in the repository?
[06:06] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_,  what you need to install is a driver package with glx in the name
[06:06] <Pelo> assuming the one you have installed doesnT' have it already
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> Hmm. I do
[06:07] <Losha> Ari_Lazarus_: it's in hardy, so it's probably in jaunty. Try apt-cache search opengl
[06:07] <sparky13> #xubuntu
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> glitz-glx1
[06:07]  * Pelo is gonna shut up now insase his advice leads to another disaster
[06:07] <IdleOne> sparky13: type /join #xubuntu
[06:07] <Speck> #xubuntu
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> Must driver must be bonkers then.
[06:07] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: For intel and ati cards, the open source drivers provide opengl through mesa. With nvidia, you must install their proprietary driver
[06:07] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Are you having a problem with 3D?
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> Minecraft
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> If you've heard of it
[06:08] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Which card do you have?
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> Some crappy Intel integrated card, let me check
[06:08] <Losha> Pelo: sometimes it all just goes horribly wrong. Even the pros make mistakes. Be glad you aren't a surgeon....
[06:12] <a_user> Hello
[06:12] <Pelo> !hi | a_user
[06:12] <MikeNorby> I was in here earlier this afternoon, about not being able to log in, got that fixed. Thanks you gus. :)
[06:12] <fynn> Hey, what's the best way to install Firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu?
[06:12] <a_user> How can I download these .ram audio files? http://www.banadir24.com/portal/islamic/quran/index.html
[06:12] <MikeNorby> guys :)
[06:13] <Pelo> fynn, wait two months for the next release
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> 1ST TIME HERE 4 UBUNTO
[06:13] <fynn> Pelo: not an option, unfortunately.
[06:13] <MikeNorby> But now, I can't seem to get my audio to work, and the drivers are correctly installed.
[06:13] <fynn> I need to install it some time over the next couple of days.
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> dont know how to  manage this
[06:13] <Pelo> fynn, binary from the ff website then
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> is anyone can help me
[06:13] <soreau> ! ask | sim-PAUL-guy
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> can you help us
[06:14] <fynn> Pelo: OK, thought maybe there's a PPA for it.
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> soreau: I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[06:14] <IdleOne> sim-PAUL-guy: help with what?
[06:14] <Awesome3000> sim-PAUL-guy: What's the trouble
[06:14] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: That is certainly not an intel card..
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> :p
[06:14] <brandon-> how do youg et back into the gui once you hit shift alt f1 or whatever to get to the shell
[06:14] <Awesome3000> f7
[06:14] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Which version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> jaunty
[06:14] <IdleOne> brandon-: ctrl-alt-F7
[06:14] <brandon-> Awesome3000, you directing f7 at me?
[06:14] <brandon-> ok thank you idleone
[06:15] <Pelo> a_user, not sure, that website seems a bit on the complicated side for someting that should be easy
[06:15] <IdleOne> brandon-: np
[06:15] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Then you probably will benefit significantly from a mesa upgrade
[06:15] <Awesome3000> brandon- : yea f7 is the gui one
[06:15] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_, check in the systeem > admin menu for restricted drivers manager,  see if there is a drie rfor you there
[06:16] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Assuming 'glxinfo|grep renderer' does not report Software Rasterizer
[06:16] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound.
[06:16] <Ari_Lazarus_> I have a Mesa driver apparently?
[06:16] <Pelo> wasn'T there a special package for glx with ati cards ? someting with an f in the name
[06:17] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Yes, mesa provides 3D/OpenGL
[06:17] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_, you mean vesa ?
[06:17] <Pelo> nvm
[06:17] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: However you do have a lower end ati chip
[06:17] <Ari_Lazarus_> Mesa DRI R300 x86 / MMX / SSE2 NO-TCL
[06:18] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Check the performance in karmic and preferably after the Lucid release. If it has not improved, you can complain in #radeon
[06:18] <Ari_Lazarus_> It's not really the performance.. I just can't get the game to start :p
[06:18] <Ari_Lazarus_> (game is a Java applet)
[06:19] <blakkheim> ...
[06:19] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Why do you think java needs opengl?
[06:19] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound. Any suggestions to fix?
[06:19] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[06:19] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: Yes
[06:20] <syrius> cool
[06:20] <Ari_Lazarus_> Someone mentioned it in a forum thread that it might have something to do with opengl or that java graphics package lwjgl or however you spell it
[06:20] <soreau> ! who | Ari_Lazarus_
[06:20] <syrius> no special things required for it to work? Flare-Laptop
[06:20] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: I'm no tsure let me look it up
[06:21] <syrius> I know to play blu ray movies and such you do
[06:21] <syrius> but I don't care for that much
[06:21] <syrius> just want to burn mainly
[06:21] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[06:21] <IdleOne> syrius: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and see if what you are thinking of getting is supported.
[06:21] <syrius> plextor drive
[06:21] <syrius> well I have a plextor drive and it works
[06:21] <IdleOne> syrius: nice. now see if it is listed
[06:21] <syrius> it is the same plextor drive it just supports blu ray
[06:22] <syrius> I have the older one and it works
[06:22] <Explore2> Hi all, i need to install sun microsystems virtual box from site. can anyone please give me the exact address?
[06:22] <syrius> so the newer one probably works
[06:22] <syrius> Explore2, use your package manager
[06:22] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound. Anyone, is there a way to fix this?
[06:22] <MikeGuo> Explore2: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[06:23] <syrius> type alt+f2 then type terminal then type sudo apt-get install virtualbox Explore2
[06:23] <MikeGuo> MikeNorby: there is a guide about how to install ubuntun on Mac pro
[06:23] <syrius> sorry type gnome-terminal Explore2
[06:24] <MikeGuo> MikeNorby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro
[06:24] <MikeNorby> MikeGuo, It's installed perfectly fine on my MacBook Pro, its just the audio that doesnt work. It doesnt work booting from the disk either.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> yeah, there is  some detail information about the audio.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> in that page.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> you check that.
[06:25] <wastegate> hey
[06:25] <Pelo> !sound
[06:25] <syrius> Flare-Laptop, that doesn't talk about burning
[06:25] <syrius> I already saw that page
[06:25] <syrius> it talks about watching blu ray and hddvd movies
[06:25] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: Yes, I see that now :(
[06:25] <syrius> I don't care for doing that
[06:26] <Pelo> syrius, just burning data to a blueray ? doesn'T  brasero handle it ?
[06:26] <wastegate> what is the make command to compile only currently loaded modules, e.g. make lodmodconfig?? that doesn't work
[06:26] <syrius> I want to know before buying one Pelo
[06:26] <syrius> perhaps I should ask the tech guys at the store
[06:26] <syrius> perhaps they will know
[06:27] <kraut> moin
[06:28] <rumpsy> what is moin?
[06:28] <wastegate> lod mod config, I can't remeber!
[06:28] <wastegate> somebody has to know
[06:28] <Pelo> rumpsy, short for morning
[06:28] <elitecoder> How can I check the ./configure line a package was configured with?
[06:28] <rumpsy> Pelo: okay
[06:30] <winfried> hallo jemand online?
[06:31] <Newbuntu2> I'm adding a harddrive purely for backup  - any particular partitioning scheme or filesystem I should pick? Or is one big ext4 space good?
[06:31] <wastegate> make localmodconfig, that's it!
[06:31] <elitecoder> Is there a way to see how a package was ./configured?
[06:31] <aksci> how do i run a gui application as a different user through terminal?
[06:32] <lamebot> i am trying to watch a div x movie on ninjavideo.net, i get a message that says there was an error getting the video information
[06:32] <lamebot> does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:32] <antonius> aksci: su to the username
[06:32] <antonius> aksci: then type the command as that user
[06:33] <antonius> that should work
[06:33] <Pelo> lamebot, sounds like the website is sending bad data , not much you can do about that
[06:33] <lamebot> oh ok thanks
[06:33] <antonius> works for root, at least..example, sudo nautilus works
[06:33] <qweasdd> hello, a ubuntu based VPS of ours ran out of disk space, we cleaned the problem and restarted mysql. A warning is now shown, "* Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables. " - how can we see what the progress is on this, or if it is even doing anything as a particular database is not coming back up. It's around 450MB and the machine has been up for over 20minutes.
[06:34] <aksci> antonius: it doesn't work! display: unable to open X server `:0.0' @ display.c/DisplayImageCommand/418.
[06:34] <hyperstream> are there any guides on how to bridge my wlan0 to my wlan2 ?
[06:34] <Pelo> aksci, why not just use the fast user switcher applet ?
[06:35] <Explore2> syrius: in alt+f2, if i give terminal,i am getting an error
[06:35] <Explore2> no such file or directory
[06:35] <syrius> Explore2, type gnome-terminal then enter
[06:36] <aksci> Pelo: i don't want to switch user to just use a single application!
[06:36] <Darkedge> =/ I'm daul-booting Windows and Linux, I alredy have Linux installed, whats the easiest way to make space for Windows? I also plan on making just enough space for Windows and hoping its possible for Windows to see my Linux partion somehow? Any ideas? Thanks.
[06:36] <aksci> there should be a way! can't the same xserver be used by other login?
[06:36] <antonius> aksci: damn...sorry bro...maybe an X thing..i know in xnest was handy for this
[06:36] <syrius> Explore2, then in the terminal type without the quotes "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[06:36] <Pelo> Explore2, you can also switch to consol mode with crtl+alt+f2 ( throught to f6)  and crtl_alt+f7 to come back
[06:37] <syrius> let's not make it more complicated then it has to be for him/her
[06:37] <syrius> well actually f1 through f6 and f7 to get back
[06:38] <Pelo> syrius, well why are you tellhing him to open a terminal using alt+f2 instead of from the menu ?
[06:38] <winfried> spricht jemand deutsch?
[06:38] <Pelo> !de | Wind0pain
[06:38] <Pelo> ...
[06:39] <lol11> sup, where can i get help for bash scripting
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> lol11, #bash
[06:39] <Pelo> lol11, #bash
[06:40] <lol11> kk, it actually exists
[06:40] <lol11> lol
[06:40] <lol11> tahnks
[06:40] <Pelo> lol11, it's a big internet , everything exist somwhere
[06:40] <lol11> yep, ive realized it
[06:40] <srv> i have 2 network cards on different networks
[06:41] <srv> how can i access one of them from the other
[06:41] <aksci> antonius: huh? didn't get you!
[06:41] <Explore2> i got a deb package of virutal box, while installing it says, should the vboxdr kernel module be complied now?
[06:41] <antonius> aksci: try a program called xnest
[06:41] <antonius> Xnest...idk
[06:41] <Explore2> what are consequences of these?
[06:42] <Quan-Time_> .FLV video joiner / converter.. what are my options ? whats a good video editing prog
[06:42] <Quan-Time_> ?
[06:43] <Pelo> Quan-Time_, give avidemux a try , not sure about flv but probably,  might need to save it as someting else however
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> Quan-Time_, avidemux does support flv
[06:44] <Quan-Time_> nice.. cheers, il give it a whirl now !
[06:44] <Pelo> Explore2, compile it, it,s part of the instal process, if you'Re installg from the repository you need not fear
[06:44] <Newbuntu2> what is the best filesystem for a backup drive?
[06:45] <pat|nG> anyone here?
[06:45] <pat|nG> need help
[06:45] <pat|nG> :(
[06:45] <Pelo> pat|nG, just state your problem
[06:45] <Quan-Time_> pat|nG: whats your prob ?
[06:45] <antonius> newbuntu2: according to digg.com ext4 is the best filesystem ever lol
[06:45] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, any special type of media or just a hdd ?
[06:46] <wolter> !tab | antonius
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> Pelo: just a plain hdd - accessible via network, so blinding performance not necessary  - but is there a particularly good one for, eg, power losses, etc
[06:46] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, ext4 is up to the job
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> basically, which is the most robust
[06:46] <Quan-Time_> i use a 500gb external caddy,, NTFS,, works great
[06:47] <Pelo> Quan-Time_, ntfs support is not 100% in linux, much better then it was but not 100%
[06:47] <antonius> honestly, newbuntu2, if you use different OS, FAT32 of NTFS...OS X, windows, and linux can read write all of those
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> Pelo: I thought ext4 holds data in the cache for a long time before writing - hence not the best?
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> whereas ext3 syncs every 5 sec
[06:47] <pat|nG> i got my laptop and i have win7 and i set the boot setup to cd as it boots up...now im in the process of installing kubuntu....it appears i'm in disk setup...how can i install it without a rewritting my win7 os? all i can see is /dev/sda1 ntfs until sda4.....i don't know which of that my win7 is runnin....so which one i will choose to install kubuntu? i got 3 partition each partition is 80gb how can i know that drive ain't used by win7?
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> but it writes metadata/journal first, then the data...
[06:47] <reisio> ext4 is deafult for 9.10, right?
[06:47] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, you seem to be more knowlegdable about this then I am
[06:48] <Newbuntu2> reisio: yes
[06:48] <reisio> pat|nG: look at them, see if they're empty
[06:48] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Is only Win7 installed now?
[06:48] <reisio> pat|nG: should be auto-mounted if they're NTFS already
[06:48] <reisio> Newbuntu2: thanks
[06:48] <pat|nG> yes
[06:48] <Pelo> pat|nG, in the installation process you will be asked where to isntall, you'll be given the option to repartition if you need to make room
[06:48] <pat|nG> tweaksource: yes....it's new actually
[06:48] <Newbuntu2> reisergs is supposed to be good too....
[06:49] <reisio> it's not, it's bad :p
[06:49] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, yes but it will murder your wife
[06:49]  * Pelo just couldn'T resist
[06:49] <reisio> try harder :p
[06:49] <alftwo> lol
[06:49] <pat|nG> pelo: i didn't get that info actually it just choices to setup manually
[06:49] <tweaksource> pat|nG, So, there exists sda2 & 3?
[06:49] <pat|nG> i did manually
[06:49] <reisio> reiser is very good when you want something fast for files you _do not care about_
[06:49] <ZykoticK9> Newbuntu2, reiserfs or um murderfs as it has come to be know probably isn't such a good recommendation these days...
[06:49] <pat|nG> do i need to hit back?
[06:50] <tweaksource> I would suggest that you need to examine your partition schem
[06:50] <Newbuntu2> I guess ext3 it is, then
[06:50] <tweaksource> pat|nG, scheme
[06:51] <tweaksource> Newbuntu2, I still have issues from ext4, last I tried it.
[06:51] <pat|nG> sda1 0.0%(100MB) sda2 35.5%(78.0GB) sda3 33.5% (78.1GB) sda4 32.9% (76.6GB)
[06:52] <tweaksource> pat|nG, You made sda2, sda3 and sda4 correct?
[06:52] <pat|nG> it is already made by the techman from the shop i bought my notebook
[06:52] <tweaksource> pat|nG, You are using the Live cd?
[06:53] <pat|nG> yes
[06:53] <tweaksource> What is the output of 'fdisk -l', please?
[06:53] <pat|nG> and i chose setup manually
[06:53] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Pastebin
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> pat|nG, tweaksource - you will need to use "sudo fdisk -l" btw
[06:54] <tweaksource> ZykoticK9, Of course, you are correct.
[06:54] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:54] <pat|nG> tweaksource: i can't coz it's runnin manually i didn't used wubi app
[06:54] <pat|nG> coz i want to install it not under win7
[06:54] <pat|nG> i wan't a full kubuntu os runnin on my laptop
[06:55] <antonius> Newbuntu2: i concur, you've done ur research, and ext3 is probably ur best choice
[06:55] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Are you using a live cd with a desktop running?
[06:55] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Or are you saying that you are in alternate install?
[06:55] <Dravekx> IF I have users jailed into their home directories, and I specify myself to not be jailed so I can browse the server, what access do I give to /var/www in order me to access it? right now its root:root.
[06:56] <reisio> pat|nG: there're really only three possibilities: unpartitioned space you can install to, empty partitions you can delete and install to, and partitions you have to resize to make empty space to install to
[06:56] <Quan-Time_> avidemux works a charm !! cheers for the suggestion ppls.
[06:56] <reisio> all pretty easy to determine
[06:56] <reisio> Quan-Time_: for what?
[06:57] <Kvist> l
[06:57] <Dravekx> anyone have a "lamens book" on permissions?
[06:58] <pat|nG> reisio: how can i determine that partition ain't used by win7?
[06:58] <reisio> Dravekx: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/permissions.html
[06:58] <tweaksource> pat|nG, In any event, sda1 is likely Win7. If you just manually created sda2, sda3, and sda4, then pick one of those.
[06:58] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Win7 partition will have an NTFS file system.
[06:59] <Dravekx> reisio, thx
[06:59] <reisio> pat|nG: there's going to be a big partition that Windows 7's core files are on
[06:59] <reisio> pat|nG: any partition that comes _after_ that, that is devoid of data, you can most likely safely obliterate
[06:59] <winfried> anybody speak german?
[06:59] <reisio> winfried: #ubuntu-de
[07:00] <maco> !de | winfried
[07:03] <reisio> that's a lot of words to say '#ubuntu-de' :p
[07:03] <alftwo> why say it when you can write a script to do it too?
[07:03] <Dravekx> so...
[07:03] <tweaksource> reisio: indeed
[07:04] <alteregoa> yeah aubuntu satanic works very well
[07:04] <reisio> alftwo: I could put 'ude' into XChat's auto replacements :p
[07:04] <reisio> or I could just type '#ubuntu-de'
[07:04] <Dravekx> If I give myself ownership of a directory, and I give someone else ownership of a sub directory, can they access it????
[07:04] <reisio> takes approximately the same time
[07:04] <reisio> Dravekx: the sub-directory?
[07:04] <alftwo> heh
[07:05] <Dravekx> reisio, yes. did I say that wrong? lol
[07:05] <elvios> Dravekx: didn't you already read that book ? :D
[07:05] <reisio> Dravekx: just wanted to be clear
[07:05] <Dravekx> yeah, Im still lost though.
[07:05] <reisio> if someone owns a sub-directory, they own it
[07:05] <reisio> Dravekx: you probably own /home/youruser/, for example
[07:05] <reisio> you do not own /
[07:05] <reisio> /home/youruser/ is a sub directory of /
[07:06] <Dravekx> reisio, ok, let me see if I got this right. lol
[07:06] <reisio> when you own something, you own it
[07:06] <alteregoa> ubuntu-satanic helps me trought the day
[07:06] <hexd> does cedega demo with SPORE work with python 2.6.4
[07:06] <reisio> what's that?
[07:07] <reisio> (@alter)
[07:07] <Dravekx> reisio, I have ownership of /var/www, inside are symlinks that connect to user home directories, that will work correct?
[07:07] <reisio> Dravekx: define work ;)
[07:08] <Explore2> i installed virtualbox, by downloading debian package from site, wat is the command to open it now?
[07:08] <Dravekx> the users can put web pages in their home directories and be seen on the net
[07:08] <Dravekx> ?
[07:08] <acp_> !modinfo
[07:08] <Dravekx> oh, im retarded.. Im doing that now with root. lol
[07:08] <elvios> explore2: try vbox or virtualbox
[07:08] <tweaksource> Explore2, Virtualbox
[07:08] <Dravekx> duh
[07:10] <inertial> if my boot partition is out of space, i can just delete some of the old kernels?
[07:10] <BinaryMan> anyone have a suggestion on how to rip the audio from an mp4 video taken from a cellphone?
[07:10] <Flannel> inertial: Yeah, remove their packages through your favorite package manager (linux-image-[version] is the package)
[07:11] <tweaksource> BinaryMan, ffmpeg
[07:11] <Dravekx> cool
[07:11] <Dravekx> it works.
[07:11] <Khisanth> mplayer -dumpaudio foo.mp4
[07:11] <BinaryMan> that simple?
[07:11] <Khisanth> well not exactly, it doesn't work for all formats
[07:12] <Khisanth> don't recall if it does for mp4
[07:12] <alteregoa> ubuntu satanic is a very nice skin for ubuntu
[07:12] <Besogon> Hello!!!! ha) How can I know which package is include epsf.tex file????
[07:12] <tweaksource> BinaryMan,  ffmpeg -i input.mp4 out.mp3
[07:12] <ManDay> When I return the computer from Hibernation I (almost always) have to enter my root password "for the default keyring to unlock for nm-applet" - this is REALLY annoying - anyway to make it remember the permission??
[07:12] <alteregoa> the appearance looks very gothic but nice
[07:12] <reisio> can throw in -vn if it has trouble dropping the video
[07:13] <BinaryMan> tweaksource: the audio is in aac. will ffmpeg automagically transcode the aac to mp3?
[07:13] <reisio> yup
[07:13] <alteregoa> get foobar2000
[07:13] <alteregoa> install wine and get foobar2000
[07:13] <tweaksource> BinaryMan, Works for me
[07:13] <reisio> probably pretty low quality already, though, if it's from a cell phone
[07:13] <alteregoa> forget those complex cryptic command like commands
[07:13] <tweaksource> reisio, Agree.
[07:13] <Besogon> In which package is included epsf.tex? Which command should I use for it?
[07:13] <BinaryMan> alteregoa: i have a virtual machine with fb2k already on it, and i like the command line.
[07:14] <reisio> (meaning why convert it)
[07:14] <alteregoa> for a single file ok, but for tons nah
[07:14] <BinaryMan> reisio: i was thinking the same thing. if it sounds like crap, i won't keep it.
[07:14] <reisio> who needs a GUI when you can use mplayer -slave :)
[07:15] <reisio> BinaryMan: you could also just do mplayer -novideo foo.mp4 :p
[07:15] <alteregoa> thats why i work for xerox, developing gui
[07:16] <tweaksource> reisio, I've always used ffmpeg. Why do you prefer mplayer?
[07:16] <reisio> tweaksource: for playing
[07:17] <reisio> 'mplayer -slave' was re: foobar
[07:17] <tweaksource> yeah.
[07:18] <tweaksource> reisio, I just wondered if mplayer had some advantage over ffmpeg as a command line conversion tool.
[07:18] <hyper_ch> hello there, when I log into my ubuntu box with ssh I get that motd: http://www.pastie.org/789433 --> how is that achieved or how can I make on my debian boxes that it also shows me how many packages can be updated and how many updates are security updates?
[07:18] <reisio> tweaksource: mencoder has, very occasionally
[07:19] <reisio> I prefer ffmpeg myself
[07:19] <reisio> it's all the same code base, though
[07:19] <reisio> I'm sure you know :)
[07:20] <Ruge> Hi folks, how important is it to have the latest ubuntu?
[07:20] <tweaksource> ffmpeg has always worked for me and I'm used to it. mencoder has like a billion lines of docs
[07:20] <Ruge> I am on a very low bandwidth connection and only have a 9.04 disc
[07:20] <alftwo> hyper_ch: try /etc/motd iirc that is the right one, but I can't remember for SSH
[07:20] <tweaksource> I'm still using 8.04
[07:20] <Ruge> o rly, hahha
[07:21] <tweaksource> 8.04 is the current LTS
[07:21] <hyper_ch> alftwo: the question is, how does it end up there?
[07:21] <Ruge> oh i c
[07:21] <tweaksource> i.e. "stable"
[07:21] <Ruge> so for a new system, i will be fine with an older ubuntu for quite some time?
[07:22] <alftwo> hyper_ch: ah, didn't notice the rest of that, sorry ;p
[07:22] <Ruge> i may have an 8.04 disc around too XD
[07:22] <c_nick> is there a simple paintbrush option in Ubuntu not referring to GIMP
[07:22] <hyper_ch> Ruge: yeah, just newer versions usually provide more up-to-date programs
[07:22] <reisio> c_nick: xpaint?
[07:22] <hyper_ch> alftwo: :)
[07:22] <Ruge> awesome
[07:22] <tweaksource> Ruge, 9.04 is not "old"
[07:22] <c_nick> ok thanks
[07:22] <tweaksource> upgrade is always an option
[07:22] <thehungrylumberj> You should be, I find that Karmic is just flashier. You get some neat other programs but the basics are all covered in 8.04
[07:22] <Ruge> ahh yes
[07:22] <hyper_ch> Ruge: and 8.04 is supported on the desktop until april 2011
[07:22] <Ruge> well, i have a ... low level machine
[07:22] <Ruge> while i have large amounts of ram, i have no GFX
[07:23] <Ruge> so i would prefer no extra flashiness
[07:23] <hyper_ch> Ruge: the next lts is 10.04 and there should be a direct upgrade path from 8.04 to 10.04
[07:23] <tweaksource> Ruge, FLUXBOX
[07:23] <hatikvah> I also don't have gfx
[07:23] <hyper_ch> but I usually reinstall the whole system from alternate installer :)
[07:23] <tweaksource> Sorry, I can't help myself
[07:23] <Ruge> My specs: Intel P4 3.0Ghz, 2GB DDR1 RAM, onboard Intel GFX
[07:23] <tweaksource> Ruge, You'll be fine
[07:23] <Ruge> schweeet
[07:23] <hyper_ch> you call that low level machine?
[07:23] <hatikvah> but there is no problem with using higher graphic option
[07:23] <tweaksource> I'm sayin'
[07:24] <Ruge> hyper_ch: well, its the lack of GFX thats giving me a worry ;)
[07:24] <alteregoa> yes it is
[07:24] <thehungrylumberj> you can turn off all the flash in Karmic but then there isn't really a point in updating. If everything works fine don't bother
[07:24] <hyper_ch> Ruge:
[07:24] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'eubi': Linux 2.6.31-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.3.90 (KDE 4.3.90 (KDE 4.4 RC1)), CPU: Intel(R) Atom CPU N280   @ 1.66GHz at 1667 MHz (3324 bogomips), HD: 69/144GB, RAM: 1953/2005MB, 210 proc's, 18.3min up
[07:24] <c_nick> yes Ruge i am in the same category..except for the fact that i got a 1 GB less than you
[07:24] <hyper_ch> with intel GMA
[07:24] <hatikvah> atom..
[07:25] <hyper_ch> my beloved little netbook :9
[07:25] <tweaksource> AMD Athlon 2.2 GHz, 2 gb ram,
[07:25] <hatikvah> i want to buy netbook
[07:25] <Ruge> K i have: Ubuntu 8.10, Ubuntu 9.04 and LinuxMint 6
[07:25] <hyper_ch> hatikvah: if you want a bit a more powerful netbook get one with ION
[07:25] <tweaksource> hatikvah, Pick up one for me while you're out!
[07:25] <thehungrylumberj> If you are experienced with linux and have a small system why not try gentoo? You can strip it down nicely.
[07:26] <hatikvah> i have cheapest labtop only
[07:26] <hatikvah> lfdsfsdf
[07:26] <tweaksource> Ubuntu Minimal CD.
[07:26] <tweaksource> Already stripped.
[07:26] <thehungrylumberj> That too @tweak
[07:26] <hatikvah> It is too heavy to carry
[07:26] <n00p> I have the cheapest laptop with a sufficiently expensive solid state drive, it runs nicely :)
[07:26] <n00p> Well, not the cheapest.
[07:26] <Ruge> Well, ill take the plunge at 9.04
[07:26] <Ruge> See how it goes XD
[07:27] <n00p> A dell inspiron 1525 -- good power/price balance in my opinion.
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> I got a monster when I was a gamer now I feel like I wasted money since I run linux
[07:27] <tweaksource> Ruge: Best of Luck
[07:27] <Besogon> Samsung nc10 would be good netbook
[07:27] <Ruge> I just need to create \ and \home yes?
[07:27] <reisio> on Gentoo, you can tell man pages to not be installed :p
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> good luck
[07:27] <hatikvah> I bought this laptop about 400 bucks
[07:27] <hyper_ch> the only thing I'd wish on my netbook was dual core and 64bit
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> haha gentoo is cool I wan't to give it a go this year
[07:27] <hyper_ch> but then I couldn't run on battery for like 7h
[07:27] <c_nick> Ruge: i got U NBR 9.04
[07:27] <hyper_ch> gentoo is for people with no friends and too much spare time :)
[07:27] <c_nick> and its working well.. besides the compiz stuff
[07:27]  * Ruge has no friends and spare time
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> Haha thats why I like it!
[07:28] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[07:28] <tweaksource> Ruge, and swap
[07:28] <Ruge> ah swap, yes
[07:28] <alteregoa> Sysinfo for fnord-top: Linux 2.6.33-rc4-generic running Gnome Desktop Environment, CPU Intel Core I7 @ 4.2GHz (23102 bogomips), HD: 1620/1896GB, RAM: 1022/8192GB, 189 proc's, 2h 23min up
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> damn alteregoa
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> nice rig
[07:28] <stone_> nice
[07:29] <reisio> hyper_ch: I hate people with friends! :p
[07:29] <Besogon> hatikvah, Do you talk about SamsungNC10? What else do you need?
[07:29] <tweaksource> alteregoa, Where do you live? :)
[07:29] <hatikvah> How can I display system performance here?
[07:29] <alteregoa> switzerland
[07:29] <reisio> alteregoa: agreed
[07:29] <Myrtti> reminder people, this is the support channel, not "compare your hardware" discussion.
[07:29] <Ruge> Im sure the chan will switch gears when a question is asked next ;)
[07:29] <tweaksource> Myrtti, My bad.
[07:29] <n00p> (Myrtti) stop being a tight-arse. I see no requests for support here.
[07:30] <Ruge> rofl
[07:30] <Myrtti> n00p: It's my job to be one.
[07:30] <maco> n00p: be nice to Myrtti!
[07:30] <hatikvah> is this channel only for support?
[07:30] <Myrtti> hatikvah: yes.
[07:30] <n00p> Well you're not very good at it. You let me get the better of you.
[07:30] <thehungrylumberj> help I "mv /usr/ to /home/" wat do!?
[07:30] <Myrtti> hatikvah: if you want to chitchat, join #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[07:30] <thehungrylumberj> heh
[07:30] <Myrtti> thehungrylumberj: why?
[07:30] <IdleOne> !guidelines | n00p
[07:30] <n00p> !idgaf | IdleOne
[07:30]  * aquarat clicks
[07:31] <IdleOne> !language | n00p
[07:31] <thehungrylumberj> jk Myrtti haha
[07:31] <alteregoa> i measure my conditional replication organes with someone else
[07:31] <Besogon> hatikvah, gnome-system-monitor
[07:31] <aprilhare> hello. I installed tor, torbutton. privoxy and vidalia. I can run vidalia and connect to the tor network, however when I enable tor using torbutton, traffic doesn't go via tor for some reason. - any ideas?
[07:31] <n00p> How do you expect me to do that, you want me to pull my eyeballs out and turn them around?
[07:31] <aprilhare> n00p: yes plz
[07:32] <tweaksource> and take pics
[07:35] <aquarat> Herro... I'm battling to get samba installed on Ubuntu 9.10 AMD64. The command attempted was "sudo apt-get install samba", this results in the process hanging apparently on the post installation script. I have tried removing samba, I have tried purging and cleaning, I've tried updating the entire system, the result is always the same.
[07:35] <aquarat> :D
[07:36] <inertial> thanks Flannel
[07:36] <aquarat> I've also tried uncommenting the "off" token in the xinetd.conf file
[07:36] <n00p> How did you guys get that sysinfo btw?
[07:36] <srv> i have 2 different network cards each connected to different network, from one how can i acess the other
[07:36] <srv> i mean if i am in network1 how can i acess network2
[07:36] <IdleOne> n00p: xchat.org has a sysinfo script you can install
[07:36] <n00p> Blah, xchat.
[07:37] <IdleOne> has a few actually
[07:37] <IdleOne> n00p: I'm sure irssi has some also
[07:37] <hyper_ch> hatikvah: if you have konversation as irc client you can just type:  /sysinfo
[07:38] <homebrewcider> what's the best way to test my firewall please?
[07:38] <hyper_ch> homebrewcider: nmap
[07:38] <reisio> /join #hackers and be annoying
[07:39] <hatikvah> hyper_ch thank you
[07:39] <tweaksource> reisio, lol
[07:39] <Diverdude> is it possible to make all icons appear as small as possible on the desktop, instead of I have to manually right click each icon and stretch it, so that I can make it smaller with the mouse?
[07:39] <tweaksource> Diverdude, Increase screen resolution?
[07:39] <homebrewcider> checking it out, cheers
[07:40] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hehehe no :) That would be a pretty stupid solution
[07:40] <alteregoa> i increased it to 2048x something
[07:40] <tweaksource> Diverdude, What DE are you using?
[07:41] <tweaksource> or WM
[07:41] <reisio> Diverdude: you could symlink all your large icon directories to small icon directories :p
[07:41] <Diverdude> Diverdude, gnome if thats what you mean?
[07:41] <Diverdude> reisio, symlink?
[07:42] <tweaksource> nautilus->preferences icon view defaults
[07:42] <papul> hi guys :D
[07:42] <papul> quite silent 2day
[07:42] <tweaksource> Diverdude, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191483
[07:43] <reisio> Diverdude: you poor soul :) ffr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[07:44] <tweaksource> Diverdude, reisio Even better - http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/11/links.html
[07:44] <homebrewcider> hyper_ch-I'm behind a Smoothwall firewall, would this still work?
[07:44] <alteregoa> no
[07:44] <alteregoa> because smoothwall is outdated
[07:44] <aquarat> I'm also behind a smoothwall, it works great :)
[07:45] <alteregoa> yeah im behind a fork of smoothwall
[07:45] <reisio> I have a strict no-linking-to-blogs-with-serious-face policy :p
[07:45] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hmm i dont seem to have nautilus->preferences icon view defaults
[07:45] <reisio> not that that post looks bad, but it's policy :p
[07:46] <tweaksource> Diverdude, Sorry, that is an old post.
[07:46] <reisio> might ask #gnome
[07:46] <alteregoa> i still wait for openbsd wall or something
[07:47] <Diverdude> reisio, so a symbolic link is a sort of shortcut?
[07:47] <reisio> no, a shortcut is a sort of symbolic link :p
[07:47] <reisio> point is if it's looking for those icons at /foo/
[07:48] <reisio> you could just point /foo/ to /bar/
[07:48] <reisio> and it'd be none the wiser
[07:48] <reisio> course the text settings might be all screwey :p
[07:48] <tweaksource> Diverdude, You may be able to edit the gtk-icon-sizes in the gtkrc file in your theme
[07:48] <reisio> I'd be surprised if GNOME didn't have a pref for what you want _somewhere_
[07:49] <movied_> hi all i need help
[07:49] <tweaksource> reisio, I agree. I just don't want to login to gnome to hunt it down.  :)
[07:49] <papul> !help | movied_
[07:49] <movied_> i am new to linux
[07:49] <reisio> heh
[07:49] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hmm i see....where would i find that
[07:49] <Myrtti> !ask | movied_
[07:49] <roracle> so i used gimp and inkscape to create an icon for my desktop (a prism launched application) but the icon will not show up, regardless of what i do.  SVG and PNG format are the type they are, what do i do here?
[07:49] <movied_> thanks guys
[07:49] <reisio> roracle: how have you told it to show up?
[07:50] <movied_> i am trying to install VM ware player to load some virtual machine on ubuntu
[07:50] <roracle> in the gconf editor?  yes
[07:50] <reisio> roracle: that covers a lot of ground
[07:50] <roracle> other icons appear
[07:50] <reisio> movied_: and?
[07:50] <tweaksource> movied: go on...
[07:50] <roracle> like the default computer, home, and trash works
[07:51] <movied_> everytime i go on the terminal and i try to install and get to the point where i have to type in the password it does not allow me to type in anything
[07:51] <carpediem> roracle: For a prism app, make sure you set the launcher to executable (Prism doesn't do this by default)
[07:51] <movied_> all i can do is press enter
[07:51] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:51] <reisio> movied_: it doesn't say something about not showing characters while you type?
[07:51] <roracle> that did it!
[07:51] <tweaksource> movied_, How about tab?
[07:51] <movied_> exact
[07:51] <roracle> thanks a million!
[07:51] <movied_> pressing tab
[07:51] <carpediem> roracle: sure thing
[07:51] <Myrtti> movied_: it gives you "enter password:" and you type and nothing appears?
[07:51] <movied_> u mean as simple as that
[07:52] <alteregoa> i got a problem with my spastic sparrow
[07:52] <movied_> correct Myrtti
[07:52] <Myrtti> movied_: in the terminal the password characters aren't echoed, not even with asterisks
[07:52] <Myrtti> movied_: just enter your password and press enter.
[07:52] <thehungrylumberj> movied_: Myrtti: doesn't terminal not echo pass?
[07:52] <Myrtti> thehungrylumberj: no.
[07:53] <movied_> nothing seems to be displayed the cursor doesn't even move when i type
[07:53] <thehungrylumberj> whoops double advice sorry Myr
[07:53] <movied_> but only the enter key seems to work
[07:53] <Myrtti> movied_: give your password and press enter.
[07:53] <reisio> movied_: just type your password despite that, then hit ENTER
[07:53] <tweaksource> movied_, That is the expexted behaviour
[07:54] <Bodsda> I have installed fluxbox from source, but need help getting it into the sessions list. Can anyone tell me where the gdm config sessions file is?
[07:54] <movied_> i will try so the command should be sudo -l then when prompted for password i just type it
[07:54] <thehungrylumberj> It's a safety thing I believe movied.
[07:54] <papul> movied_: thats a security feature. it doesn't show the pass when u type
[07:54] <movied_> but i cant even c the *
[07:55] <Myrtti> movied_: as I said, they're not shown.
[07:55] <Bodsda> movied_: so that people looking over your shoulder cant tell how long the password is
[07:55] <movied_> kool i'll try gimi a sec
[07:55] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:55] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several NTP servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:55] <movied_> i'll be damed
[07:56] <talented> bendt, then tell the system you're in a place 30 minutes ahead
[07:56] <thehungrylumberj> haha cool ed movied?
[07:56] <tweaksource> movied_, Generally in Linux if nothing seems to have happened then all is well
[07:56] <movied_> its working i think
[07:56] <reisio> :)
[07:56] <movied_> i'll be coming here more often hope u guys are patient lol
[07:56] <talented> bendt, what location are you at?
[07:56] <tweaksource> movied_, We've all been there
[07:56] <thehungrylumberj> Microsoft solution to movied's problem: Turn monitor off then enter pass :P
[07:56] <Bodsda> movied_: if your willing to listen and do some research, were always happy to help
[07:56] <movied_> thanks everyone i am going to register a nick and see u soon
[07:57] <alteregoa> damnid did ya hear it on the NEWS, a EARTQUAKE on ANTARCTICA with 9.3 on the Scale!
[07:57] <reisio> is that a Haiti joke? :p
[07:57] <reisio> 6.3, you mean?
[07:57] <Bodsda> alteregoa: pop qiuz: what scale are they using?
[07:57] <bendt> Denmark - i think time zones vary by one hour only? GMT-1
[07:57] <alteregoa> richter scale, the dude from total recall
[07:58] <talented> 3.6... you have to look at it upside down if you go that far south
[07:58] <Bodsda> alteregoa: !!**NO**!! sorry, no one uses the richter scale anymore, apart from ignorant news reporters :)
[07:58] <movied_> guys i have a digital TV USB card to watch digital TV i am having driver issue as i was previously using XP
[07:58] <Myrtti> alteregoa, reisio: this is the support channel, if you want to discuss the news, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <movied_> not i am experimenting linux
[07:59] <bendt> talented, my time zone is called "Europe/Copenhagen" in the settings
[07:59] <movied_> was wondering if the hardware company does not provide a version does that mean i am stuck
[07:59] <reisio> Myrtti: -> alteregoa
[07:59] <alteregoa> hmm antarctica has no land lol
[07:59] <Bodsda> movied_: could you please run 'lsusb' and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <talented> do you know which ntp server you are using bendt ?
[07:59] <reisio> alteregoa: ...
[08:00] <movied_> u want me to paste it on the main channel?
[08:00] <Bodsda> movied_: no, paste to the site   paste.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <movied_> i got it i am pasting it on the link bodsda
[08:00] <bendt> I have chosen several - how do I check, which I am using? I put in n1.taur.dk manually.
[08:01] <Bodsda> movied_: cool, when you submit it, it will change the URL, we need that new URL to see the paste
[08:01] <movied_> its done
[08:01] <Bodsda> movied_: now, paste the new link in the channel
[08:01] <movied_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/360510/
[08:01] <talented> what's your time now bendt?
[08:01] <Bodsda> ty
[08:02] <movied_> so this is kind of ur ticket for logging fault u guys are quite organised
[08:02] <tweaksource> movied_, It just keeps the screen readable
[08:02] <bendt> 08:31 - it should be 09:02
[08:02] <bendt> 08:31 - it should be 09:01
[08:03] <reisio> bendt: man date
[08:03] <movied_> beg ur pardon tweaksource
[08:03] <reisio> http://www.google.com/search?q=ntp%20site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <tweaksource> movied_, pastebin keeps a long list of lines from cluttering the screen, if that is what you were referring to.
[08:04] <movied_> you guys have got channel rules
[08:04] <Bodsda> movied_: It just helps us by showing us info from your system, and doesnt flood the channel in the process. Now, there seems to be a bug with your tuner card, so make sure its in the system before ubuntu boots, then you need to look into something like MythTV
[08:04] <Myrtti> !guidelines > movied_
[08:04] <Bodsda> movied_: yep, rules, regulations - basically its common sense and family friendly
[08:04] <bendt> talented, reisio: ntpdate: 22 Jan 08:33:50 ntpdate[13592]: no servers can be used, exiting
[08:05] <talented> if you go System > Administration > Time & Date... click to make changes, Select Servers... what servers are checked?
[08:05] <bendt> talented, reisio: sorry - didnt pass a server name
[08:06] <movied_> so i got to research my driver issues with mythtv correct?
[08:06] <cmmenke> anyone how to fix this nvidia driver business?
[08:06] <root> hai
[08:06] <movied_> i think i had the same issue cmmenke
[08:06] <papul> root: please login thru another account
[08:07] <cmmenke> yah, im having some trouble with the drivers for it
[08:07] <andruk> how do i tell pbuilder to add my ppa from launchpad to its sources.list?
[08:07] <movied_> i had to use a chmod command or someting to change the file so that it runs or someting
[08:07] <Flannel> andruk: #ubuntu-motu will answer you, just be patient
[08:07] <talented> movied_, so it's executable?
[08:08] <movied_> that's right talented
[08:08] <movied_> i saw that on some blog i cant remember where
[08:08] <bendt> talented: n1.taur.dk, time1.stupi.se, time.service.uit.no, chronos.cru.fr, ntps1.2.uni-erlangen.de, ntps1.0.cs.tui-berlin.de, ntpa2.kph.uni-mainz.de, fartein.ifi.uio.no
[08:08] <movied_> but at that time i could not go forward with it as i was having the same problem with the password it kept on asking for password and i thought it was not registering
[08:08] <NightHawk877> I just resurrected my mom's old HP Pavilion ze4530us and after poking around on the internet, I discovered that it has an ATi chipset. Should I install the driver or no?
[08:08] <andruk> Flannel: roger that.  ...can i hold you to that?  :-)
[08:09] <talented> bendt, and what was the timezone?
[08:09] <bendt> Europe/copenhagen, GMT-1
[08:09] <thehungrylumberj> sudo chmod 777 should set all user rights to accessible so anyone could use the program I believe
[08:10] <bendt> sudo n1.taur.dk -> 22 Jan 09:09:05 ntpdate[13680]: step time server 217.198.219.102 offset 1836.684101 sec
[08:10] <movied_> i c
[08:10] <movied_> i am going to try it right away
[08:10] <bendt> Now system time is correct, but how to keep?
[08:10] <soreau> NightHawk877: If its an older ati chip, the driver is already installed
[08:10] <thehungrylumberj> see this forum for explanation movie http://www.websitebabble.com/uploading-files-ftp/1667-what-chmod-777-a.html
[08:10] <papul> movied_: just installed ubuntu?
[08:10] <Flannel> bendt: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[08:11] <NightHawk877> thanks soreau
[08:11] <movied_> yeah i installed yesterday
[08:11] <movied_> i had installed fedora 11 last week it was too difficult for me i had to step bacn a notch
[08:11] <NightHawk877> I have been using it since 8.04
[08:12] <prince> hi can someone pls sugest me how to install winpcap in ubuntu or any software that equalent to winpcap.my prjt requires winpcap to run
[08:13] <talented> prince, wireshark might be similar?
[08:13] <talented> don't know if it has libs you could use
[08:13] <defn> I need some help configuring my Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 :: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b -- I would like to specifically create the correct layout for my keyboard.  How do I go about making this keyboard work perfectly in linux?
[08:14] <Flannel> prince: winpcap is a windows version of the *nix pcap library.  Install libpcap0.8 for the library itself (search synaptic for pcap for a bunch of bindings, etc)
[08:14] <tweaksource> prince, Winpcap is for Windows platforms only, libpcap is the linux variant that does the same thing.
[08:14] <prince> is wireshark a packet capturing software
[08:14] <cmmenke> anyone know a really good, beginner to intermediate manual for ubuntu?
[08:14] <bendt> The serverguide suggest ntpd or ntpdate - is nptd standard? Ubuntu has allways kept track of time for me with no customization. Why this problem now?
[08:15] <talented> prince, yes
[08:15] <tweaksource> cmmenke, Ubuntuguide
[08:15] <cmmenke> is that the URL?
[08:15] <talented> if I recall correctly, it use to be ethereal
[08:15] <cmmenke> ubuntuguide.org/net/com?
[08:15] <prince> ok thanks all for details have a good day
[08:15] <Flannel> bendt: ntpdate is standard, it runs every time you boot (or login, I don't remember)
[08:15] <Flannel> cmmenke: help.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <defn> configuring keyboards sucks so bad
[08:15] <tweaksource> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/
[08:15] <defn> all these years and there's no good way to configure the damn things
[08:16] <tweaksource> cmmenke, What Flannel said.
[08:16] <cmmenke> thanks
[08:17] <richard_25> hi.  I'm having some issues trying to get my display recognized correctly.  Ubuntu keeps resetting it to an 800x600 resolution
[08:17] <bendt> Flannel, so I can go ahead and do apt-get remove npt?
[08:17] <bendt> Flannel, so I can go ahead and do apt-get remove ntp?
[08:17] <Flannel> bendt: There's no real reason to remove it
[08:18] <bendt> What should my settings be in admin-time&date?
[08:18] <tweaksource> richard_25, What version of Ubuntu ? What graphics adapter?
[08:18] <Daugha|n> Any advice for reformating a WD passport with bad sectors?
[08:19] <talented> your timezone, update from server, or manually set... and then pick a few servers close to you, or just the one
[08:19] <bendt> Flannel: What should my settings be in admin-time&date?
[08:19] <MaSSaSLaYeR> goodmorning
[08:19] <talented> when do you start losing half an hour?
[08:19] <talented> could be a failing battery
[08:20] <bendt> talented: does admin->time&date control ntpd or ntpdate?
[08:20] <richard_25> tweaksauce: Ubuntu 8.04  Nvidia - not certain of make
[08:20] <bendt> talented, Flannel: Should /etc/init.d/ntp be run at startup?
[08:20] <alteregoa> does linux 2.6 regconize MFM controllers?
[08:21] <talented> ntpd is ran every boot I believe
[08:21] <ardchoille> bendt: that is what syncs the system clock, I have it running
[08:21] <bendt> talented: how?
[08:22] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:22] <jez__> yo!
[08:22] <zubin71> hi! im using karmic rite now with KDE. for some reason i cant assign keyboard shortcuts for shifting between workspaces. please help.
[08:22] <actionparsnip> !shortcut
[08:23] <tweaksource> richard_25, When does the resolution get reset? After reboot> Immediately?
[08:23] <actionparsnip> Zubin71: #kubuntu will help better as they will use kde
[08:23] <ardchoille> zubin71: you need to ask in #kubuntu
[08:23] <zubin71> well, ive set my shortcuts both in the kde settings and the compiz manager; both dont work
[08:24] <zubin71> actionparsnip, ardchoille : will do... thnkx! :)
[08:24] <kubanc> I would like to strat devilspie before gnome-terminal at startup, how do I delay program to start later
[08:25] <leo> ?
[08:25] <actionparsnip> Kubanc: could make a bash script to sleep a while, then run the command and add that to the startup
[08:25] <tweaksource> actionparsnip, I agree.
[08:25] <talented> kubanc, in start up service folders, they used numbers in the name, the lower the number, the earlier it would start
[08:25] <richard_25> tweaksauce: after reboot
[08:26] <bendt> It seems, that /etc/init.d/ntp starts ntpd, and admin->time&date edits /etc/ntp.conf - am I right?
[08:26] <leo> excuse me
[08:26] <leo> what's the topic of here
[08:26] <actionparsnip> !ot | leo
[08:26] <ardchoille> leo: Ubuntu support
[08:26] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I attempt to enable the graphics acceleration, and it states my display device cannot be determined when I reboot
[08:26] <talented> bendt, ntpd is controlled by time & date
[08:27] <ColloquyUser> Hi
[08:27] <bendt> talented: ultimately - ntpd is controlled by /etc/ntp.conf?
[08:27] <talented> ntpd is a bit better than ntpdate because it has an algorithm to maintain synchronised time, even when it couldn't connect to the net
[08:28] <cmmenke> i read help.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <cmmenke> that stuff was tooooo absic
[08:29] <tweaksource> richard_25, What driver are you using? Did you set the rez using nvidia-settings?
[08:29] <cmmenke> basic*
[08:29] <cmmenke> im pretty savi on windows, perhaps a command line based tut
[08:29] <alteregoa> wget -q http://ubuntusatanic.org/ubuntu-se-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:29] <actionparsnip> Cmmenke: its supposed to be basic. Its a help page
[08:29] <jez__> I'm trying to join the #gstreamer channel, but get this: "Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel" what's going on?
[08:29] <alteregoa> Go to System->Administration->Software Sources->Third Party Software->Add and enter the following APT line:
[08:29] <actionparsnip> !register | jez_
[08:29] <cmmenke> i understand action, thank you
[08:30] <xxthink> Can an application built on 32 bit ubuntu runs on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[08:30] <alteregoa> deb http://ubuntusatanic.org/hell karmic main
[08:30] <jez__> thanks
[08:30] <actionparsnip> Xxthink: sure if you install ia32-libs on the 64bit rig and force the install
[08:30] <alteregoa> xxthink: yes
[08:31] <xxthink> ok
[08:31] <actionparsnip> Xxthink: you will need to satisfy 32bit deps though which can get messy
[08:31] <shushek> hi, i need some with splash screen setting in 9.10
[08:31] <Myrtti> jez__: there's been some attacks on freenode, and making channels accessible to only registered users makes the attacks more manageable
[08:31] <xxthink> ok
[08:31] <actionparsnip> !splash
[08:32] <alteregoa> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-satanic-wide
[08:32] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I'm sorry, very new to ubuntu.  Don't know the driver number,   U use the System>Admin>Hardware drivers to enable it, it reboots, tells me the display is in low resolution because It can't detect my display device, and then sets to 800x600
[08:32] <Myrtti> alteregoa: what is your point?
[08:32] <jez__> would turn away a bunch of confused new users too, I imagine
[08:33] <Myrtti> jez__: most read the message and do as they're guided to do
[08:33] <bonno> Hi all, I am quite new to this whole ubuntu thing. Just migrated over from windows. I am having problem installing flash in firefox on a 64bit system. Is there a quick easy fix for this?
[08:33] <MaSSaSLaYeR> What is recursion good for?
[08:33] <shushek> Ubottu, i did tried gnome-splashscreen-manager; but it waont change the screen..
[08:33] <actionparsnip> Bonno: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:33] <bonno> thanks actionparsnip I will try that
[08:34] <talented> MaSSaSLaYeR, girls love it
[08:34] <MaSSaSLaYeR> talented: i mean in Ubuntu =/
[08:34] <actionparsnip> Bonno: you want only one flash plugin or they will conflict and you will get nothing
[08:35] <strings> is there any command which does opposite functionality of head? that is read from the last line of a file.
[08:35] <bonno> ok, at the moment I have nothing I am pretty sure of.
[08:35] <tweaksource> richard_25, Do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[08:35] <bonno> thanks for the direction actionparsnip
[08:35] <Myrtti> strings: tail
[08:35] <brijith> hello everyone,I can not set gmail account in evolution mail client
[08:35] <actionparsnip> Strings: tail, you can use -n to specify the number of lines to tail
[08:35] <MaSSaSLaYeR> talented: recursion-no = authority only
[08:36] <strings> thanks myrtti & actionparsnip
[08:36] <brijith> hello everyone,I can not set gmail account in evolution mail client please help me
[08:36] <richard_25> tweaksauce: Don't know.  Suspect not.  sudo apt-get nividia-settings?
[08:36] <rww> ubottu: repeat | brijith
[08:36] <gadget3000> brijith: what error comes up?
[08:37] <tweaksource> richard_25, yes
[08:37] <brijith> gadget3000:  Error while Scanning folders in "IMAP server imap.gmail.com"
[08:37] <actionparsnip> Richard_25: try: gksudo jockey-gtk
[08:38] <MaSSaSLaYeR> let's see if i can play counterstrike on ubuntu xd
[08:38] <gadget3000> brijith: have you set the server ports? thats for incoming as well
[08:38] <That1guy> At 2 FPS, I'm sure you can
[08:38] <brijith> gadget3000: I am accessing internet behind a proxy server
[08:38] <actionparsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:38] <gadget3000> brijith: have you had a look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:39] <actionparsnip> brijith: ^
[08:39] <gadget3000> brijith: or do you use IMAP?
[08:39] <actionparsnip> Brijith: then export http proxy in a terminal, it will be obeyed systemwide
[08:39] <richard_25> Tweaksauce: Brings up Hardware Drivers window - one driver, not in use.  If I activate it, I need to reboot, it tells me It can't determine my display, and I get the low resolution
[08:40] <hechu> Hi, I am using ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop. I want run X application from remote server and show it on my laptop. I don't know how to config my laptop to listen 6000. or, somebody says I can use a ssh tunnel. any body can help me?
[08:40] <brijith> actionparsnip:I have set the proxy settings evolutions settings
[08:41] <gadget3000> brijith: do you use IMAP instead of POP?
[08:41] <That1guy> POP> IMAP imo
[08:41] <kwork> why pop ?
[08:42] <brijith> gadget3000:I think I am using IMAP
[08:42] <That1guy> b/c pop is typically more compatible
[08:43] <gadget3000> brijith: make sure the incoming server is imap.gmail.com:993 and set to ssl encryption. For out going smtp.gmail.com:587 and tls encryption
[08:43] <gadget3000> brijith: infact, try this: http://wazem.blogspot.com/2007/10/hot-to-configure-imap-on-evolution-and.html
[08:44] <ardchoille> gadget3000 brijith you don't ne4ed imap
[08:44] <brijith> gadget3000: will there be any problem because of proxy
[08:45] <ardchoille> Setting up evolution with gmail: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m11a7f272
[08:45] <brijith> gadget3000: in my network there is a proxy through I am using net
[08:45] <richard_25> tweaksauce: I've enabled it, it downloaded something, and is now telling me to restart
[08:45] <ardchoille> brijith: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m11a7f272
[08:45] <gadget3000> brijith: it should be fine as long as the proxy settings in evolution are correct
[08:46] <sarthorks> my laptop powers off the first few times at boot when it has not been powered on for the past 12 hours, say. is my laptop too cold to start?
[08:46] <alteregoa> gimp it like its hot
[08:47] <gadget3000> ardchoille: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&ctx=mail&answer=75725 look at the What's the difference between IMAP and POP? section
[08:48] <ardchoille> gadget3000: Ah, that's one choice I suppose
[08:48] <brijith> gadget3000: Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com: Name or service not known
[08:48] <brijith> this is what I am getting after trying as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:49] <mikkel> anyone here familiar with vim?
[08:49] <brijith>  gadget3000:  this is what I am getting after trying as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[08:49] <tarzeau_> is anyone able to install a gdm theme for 2.28 gdm on karmic?
[08:49] <alteregoa> yes
[08:49] <tarzeau_> how?
[08:49] <alteregoa> but anyone is not on irc right now
[08:49] <tarzeau_> i get the theme.tar.gz put it in /usr/share/themes
[08:50] <tarzeau_> use the sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 -t string -s /apps/metacity/general/theme "Gnome Black"
[08:50] <alteregoa> wait till anyone comes back to irc
[08:50] <Myrtti> alteregoa: be helpful!
[08:50] <tarzeau_> commands, but it just doesn't use it
[08:50] <mikkel> alteregoa: who's on first?
[08:50] <gadget3000> brijith: did you use smtp.gmail.com:587 intead of smtp.gmail.com?
[08:50] <ardchoille> mikkel: There are many folks here familiar with vim. What's your issue?
[08:50] <tarzeau_> it drives me nuts. xdm, wdm is so easy to configure. why is gnome so damn hard?
[08:51] <tarzeau_> how does gnome/ubuntu plan to succeed in a business/enterprise place where 100 or 1000 desktops exist
[08:51] <alteregoa> because gnome is made of pizza hut eating linux coders
[08:51] <tarzeau_> i can't run to each workstation to set it up manually (besides that doesn't work either)
[08:51] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: you're comparing a display manager to a desktop environment
[08:51] <tarzeau_> alteregoa: like i bother
[08:51] <mikkel> ardchoille: I know my way around in vim, but I accidentally hit a key and one of my variable names became highlighted http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68829/vim.png
[08:51] <mikkel> now I can't figure out how to undo it
[08:51] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: no i just want a display manager to fit in our environment
[08:51] <alteregoa> sometime i ask myself how they grew up to make the things so complicated
[08:51] <tarzeau_> and the only thing i'm able to is set the background image. but i want to customize the login panel too
[08:52] <tarzeau_> alteregoa: so do i! not like it was easier before
[08:52] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: gdm is still undergoing feature implementation
[08:52] <tarzeau_> but we really want to switch to gnome from fvwm2 now
[08:52] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: so i should wait for 1009?
[08:52] <Myrtti> alteregoa: I'm asking nicely, if you don't have ubuntu support issues, then either move to another channel, or be helpful instead of offtopic chatter and unhelpful comments
[08:52] <tarzeau_> i wish 2010 was the year of linux on the desktop
[08:52] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: 10.04 might have more gdm features enabled
[08:52] <jbee> hey folks, question: i want to define multiple hosts in ~/.ssh/config, each with his own port. but only the first "Port" is used, 22 for the others, which doesn't work. what am i not seeing here?
[08:52] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: i don't want features. i only want to install a theme
[08:52] <Daugha|n> I have an external HD, if I reformat as ext4, will there be any issues auto-mounting the device?
[08:52] <alteregoa> my comment was just a comment
[08:53] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: That's a feature
[08:53] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: it feels like windows
[08:53] <tarzeau_> the faster i could get this to work, the faster i can migrate 200 desktops to ubuntu, and it's like 1000 active users
[08:53] <kwork> 1000 users on 200 desktop o.O
[08:53] <tarzeau_> oh well, it's not like they cry for ubuntu, nor gnome
[08:54] <ardchoille> tarzeau_: gdm at this time doesn't have many theming features
[08:54] <tarzeau_> kwork: yes, we have like 3000 accounts at the www.phys.ethz.ch, and 200 managed linux workstations
[08:54] <tarzeau_> kwork: and like 50 macs, and 80 windows
[08:54] <brijith> gadget3000:no I didn't I just smtp.gmail.com
[08:54] <kwork> tarzeau_, how is it to manage linux workstations ?
[08:54] <kwork> tarzeau_, what distro you use ?
[08:54] <tarzeau_> ardchoille: i see, so i'm stuck with the ugly brown of ubuntu and the black and white background of mine: http://gnu.ethz.ch/zebrawhitebw.jpg
[08:54] <movied_> tarzeau_,  they probably work on rotating shifts on the same workstation so they done need that much PC
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:i nthe pop side also I did the same i did't give the port part
[08:55] <tarzeau_> kwork: currently mostly debian lenny, but the problem is with new hardware, it's not supported. now i've started to migrate to ubuntu
[08:55] <movied_> but still 200 for a 1000 its a big gap
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:should I give that ?
[08:55] <tarzeau_> kwork: great, we've documented most things: http://wiki.debian.org/Enterprise (also works for ubuntu)
[08:55] <gadget3000> brijith: yes
[08:55] <kwork> tarzeau_, nice ill check it out
[08:55] <brijith> gadget3000:what are the ports for POP and IMAP
[08:55] <tarzeau_> movied_: well at the ETH Zurich, people change, daily, 3 monthly, 3 yearly
[08:56] <tarzeau_> movied_: and our users keep their accounts, even if they only use it from remote, world wide
[08:56] <tarzeau_> kwork: where do you work, what market?
[08:56] <gadget3000> pop doesn't need it, only imap does. smtp is 587
[08:56] <kwork> tarzeau_, telecommunication
[08:56] <tarzeau_> kwork: the great things are like machines like this: http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/computers/slides/img_0421.html
[08:57] <tarzeau_> kwork: can you figure how much cpu power/memroy/disks it has? guess...
[08:57] <ardchoille> !ot | tarzeau_
[08:57] <tarzeau_> kwork: and you run linux too? ubuntu on desktops? servers?
[08:57] <kwork> tarzeau_,  64gb with 4 cpus ?
[08:58] <mikkel> I'm not going to spam the question, but I'll ask one more time anyway: I know my way around in vim, but I accidentally hit a key and one of my variable names became highlighted. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68829/vim.png Does anyone know how to undo it? Restarting vim doesn't help.
[08:58] <kwork> tarzeau_, technical people are running ubuntu as desktops, servers are linux/bsd/aix
[08:58] <kwork> tarzeau_,  normal people like support are running windows
[08:58] <tarzeau_> kwork: 128gb memory, 4 quad cores and 6 tb diskspace
[08:58] <kwork> nice :)
[08:59] <kwork> tarzeau_,  how much you payed for it ?
[08:59] <plinetva> test
[08:59] <tarzeau_> kwork: about 15000 swiss francs, maybe 5000 more or less, i don't remember
[08:59] <ardchoille> kwork , tarzeau_  I feel your conversation has moved into the off-topic arena. Can it be taken to another channel please?
[09:01] <mikkel> Aha! I still don't know what I did, but I undid it by deleting .viminfo from the working directory. Thanks anyway, folks.
[09:01] <tarzeau_> can i buy ubuntu support in switzerland, from canonical?
[09:02] <tarzeau_> kwork: i'm traveling with my ubuntu netbook from switzerland, through germany, to sweden/norway/denmark for 3 months this summer. you're in .ee?
[09:02] <kwork> tarzeau_,  yes
[09:03] <kwork> tarzeau_,  im off to lunch for now, back later
[09:03] <brontosaurusrex> how would i copy all the hidden folders starting with dot . to some other folder (user settings that is)
[09:04] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: only the .files or everything? or files and directories with a . at the beginning?
[09:04] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: i always use rsync -av ./ anotherplace/ (that just takes everything, works also between different computers)
[09:05] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: i'am with cp so far :)
[09:05] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: i'm also using rsync on the localdisk, just to save me the troubles on power outage so i don't have to start from scratch
[09:05] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: really convenient if you have terabytes to transfer
[09:06] <alteregoa> i need some tritium oxyde
[09:06] <bruno> buongiorno a tutti :)
[09:07] <alteregoa> buongiorno
[09:07] <alteregoa> ciao padania!
[09:07] <alteregoa> padania libera!
[09:07] <bazhang> alteregoa, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <ardchoille> bazhang: he's been warned more than once already
[09:07] <MaSSaSLaYeR> What's the difference between Postfix & Courier??
[09:07] <bazhang> Guest94506, here is english only #ubuntu-it for Italian
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: just trying to backup some basic files before trying upgrade to karmic
[09:08] <alteregoa> i need ubuntu-padania
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> tarzeau_: only bigger folder is /var/www
[09:08] <Guest94506> sorry but i have a problem with xubuntu for play Audio CD
[09:08] <cmmenke> im using wubi for my comp right, with windows 7, on my external can i permanently trade to ubuntu?
[09:09] <Guest94506> and i search for help
[09:09] <cmmenke> ....sweet
[09:09] <Guest46306> =)
[09:10] <ardchoille> Guest94506: you need to ask in #xubuntu
[09:10] <cmmenke> lol over one thousand people, and no answer, lame
[09:11] <Andyman555> what's the question?
[09:11] <diddy> What is the command to check the integrity of all installed packages? I want to check for rootkits, etc.
[09:11] <Andyman555> hmm...
[09:11] <brontosaurusrex> so will this: cp -r ~/.* /to/some/other/place/ work?
[09:11] <ardchoille> diddly: you can install and run rkhunter and chkrootkit to scan for rootkits
[09:11] <tarzeau_> diddy: chkrootkit or rkhunter
[09:11] <tarzeau_> brontosaurusrex: mc is also nice for these things...
[09:12] <Andyman555> by the way, are noob questions allowed in here? or are they frowned upon? =)
[09:12] <james_> hi
[09:12] <Andyman555> I may have a few silly ones from time to time, but if I should refrain from asking, by all means I will
[09:12] <tarzeau_> Andyman555: noob questions are fine i guess, just no meta questions please
[09:12] <diddy> tarzeau_, but isn't there also a command to check the interity of the installed packages against the ones on the server?
[09:13] <DJones> Andyman555: As long as they're questions about ubuntu support problems, they're fine here
[09:13] <Andyman555> thanks djones
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: yea, i'd google for dpkg package integrity md5
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: but why? if you think you got a broken disk, just use dmesg/badblocks
[09:13] <james_> how do i get yahoo for it
[09:13] <tarzeau_> diddy: or broken memory: memtester
[09:13] <ardchoille> diddly: that would take considerably longer than running a rootkit scanner
[09:13] <Guest37326> ty guy bye
[09:13] <DJones> james_: Yahoo messenger?
[09:13] <james_> yes
[09:14] <yipstar> i'm having trouble using ubuntu-vm-builder
[09:14] <DJones> james_: You can add yahoo messenger accounts to either pidgin or empathy which are chat clients
[09:14] <yipstar> specifically passing a --part option makes the command blow up
[09:14] <james_> k
[09:15] <yipstar> i've created a file with two lines that define the root and swap sizes
[09:15] <james_> what  abot this teamspeak
[09:15] <yipstar> is this a common problem?
[09:15] <james_> game server
[09:15] <billdozor> james: teamspeak client is not supported in Linux
[09:15] <DJones> james_: If you're using Ubunt 9.10, empathy is the default chat client and Pidgin is in the software repositories, I don't know about teamspeak
[09:15] <billdozor> you would want to get a new app for a client called "mangler"
[09:16] <james_> xfce one
[09:16] <james_> and   new
[09:16] <MegaHerz> How to load alsa? I've unloaded alsa modules via (sudo /sbin/alsa force-unload) and now want sound back without restarting whole the system
[09:16] <james_> at this
[09:16] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: modprobe what you unloaded?
[09:17] <eremite> If you're a gamer, Linux is not for you.  Most games do not work on Linux, not even in Wine.
[09:17] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: I've just executed that script. I don't know what modules it unloaded. Is there a way to... just start alsa?
[09:17] <Norby_> I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:18] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: or how to make system to reindentify needed modules?
[09:18] <DVS01> hi
[09:18] <Q|> python3: Installed Modules can't be imported, e.g. "ImportError: No module named html5lib". Why?
[09:18] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: and load them too
[09:18] <eremite> Does anyone know of some goof FPS games for Ubuntu?  When I say good, I mean NOT based on Doom, Quake or Cube. I'd also prefer if it was a game that I didnt play in Win95.
[09:18] <eremite> good*
[09:18] <DJones> !games | eremite
[09:18] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: no idea, sorry
[09:18] <DVS01> i wonder if crysis runs properly in wine
[09:19] <MegaHerz> alsa is pain, all the way
[09:19] <tarzeau_> eremite: i like sauerbraten very much
[09:19] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: no it's nice
[09:19] <movied_> can we register nick over this server
[09:19] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: you just shouldn't force unload modules, really
[09:19] <eremite> DJones, I am asking opinions, not for a list of generic games (all of which are junk)
[09:19] <MegaHerz> Why sound on windows just works? While on Ubuntu I have to restart alsa 10s times a day?
[09:19] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: yes, looks like
[09:19] <Norby_> I went here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: i never have to restart alsa (besides it's not a service one can restart) it's kernel modules
[09:20] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: but alsa force-reload didn't help this time
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: and it just works for me
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: what computer/soundcard do you have? which applications do you use?
[09:20] <eremite> tarzeau_,  Sauerbraten is crap.  Its based on a game engine that's nearly 10 years old.
[09:20] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: if you use gnome/kde the artsdaemon and the other softwaremixer, that's crap
[09:20] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's a complete rewrite, go have a look at it. it's much improved
[09:20] <DJones> eremite: In that case, you might be better asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic you normally get people chatting about different software and get opinions, rather than just problems using something specific
[09:20] <eremite> MegaHerz, Sound on ubuntu is crap, I agree.  I have no sound in games and randomly lose sound when watching vids or listening to MP3s
[09:20] <tarzeau_> eremite: i don't mean the cube,cube1 implementation, i mean sauerbraten
[09:21] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: but not for me. Without 'force-reload' "cheat" I can't get sound more then 2-4 hours. Apps like MOCP can't start, claiming it can't access something. So I have to force-reload alsa, and then MOCP works
[09:21] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: you run karmic?
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: try to use OSS instead of ALSA, if that works better, i don't know
[09:22] <pat|nG> i everyone
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: did you check the mocp bugs/development page, maybe it's known?
[09:22] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: MOCP application, 9.04, latest (I think) alsa (built using that fancy script found on Ubuntu forums)
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: or try to figure out what software is causing the problems
[09:22] <tarzeau_> MegaHerz: i'm pretty sure it's not alsa
[09:23] <eremite> tarzeau_, I know.  I mean ALL CUBE BASED GAMES ARE UTTER GARBAGE.  Have a look at some of the games for Windows (and modern consoles) and then look at that junk.  Its a joke.
[09:23] <Norby_> After following the instructions here, I nolonger have a sound card. The problem is that I was sent there to get sound in the firstplace, now I dont even have a card showing up. What's wrong? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:23] <tarzeau_> eremite: i'm sorry, but i have to disagree
[09:23] <MegaHerz> tarzeau_: yeah, default 9.04's alsa cound't even work on my laptop - Acer 5930G :( So I had to built latest
[09:23] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's not like i don't have consoles or windows, but well, there's a price/developer payment difference, please consider that
[09:24] <tarzeau_> eremite: how do you like world of goo? completely different game
[09:24] <gage> hey guys I've got a bit of a problem, I've been running fedora on my second hardrive and windows XP on my first one then I reinstalled Ubuntu (#! to be exact) over fedora but it left a grub on my First one and now I can't boot windows, any help?
[09:24] <tarzeau_> eremite: you know, i love to play nethack
[09:24] <johntramp> hi i have my email on another machine using getmail. i have been accessing it via ssh and mutt, which mostly works well except i have to check for new mails all the time. is there a way i could use something locally to notify me when new mail arrives?
[09:24] <Myrtti> tarzeau_, eremite: could you move this discussion elsewhere? it's not ubuntu support stuff...?
[09:24] <Suhail_> so i have a screen that was attached, then lost my session, now when i do screen -r it says (attached)--how can I attach to it?
[09:24] <ubuntu_nuevo> HOla
[09:24] <ubuntu_nuevo> Hello spain??
[09:24] <tarzeau_> Suhail_: try -x
[09:25] <tarzeau_> !es
[09:25]  * MegaHerz had to restart Linux again, because sound doesn't work
[09:25] <Suhail_> oh thanks
[09:25] <Suhail_> tarzeau_:
[09:25] <ubuntu_nuevo> oK
[09:25] <eremite> Myrtti,  Im asking where to get GOOD games for Ubuntu.  Where else should I ask about Ubuntu unless in the Ubuntu channel?
[09:25] <ubuntu_nuevo> tHAKS UBOOTU
[09:25] <gadget3000> eremite: nexuiz, unreal tournament 2004 & 3
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> Good bye
[09:26] <tarzeau_> https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup that's what i wanted!
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> i.m user linux!!
[09:26] <Norby_> After following the instructions here, I nolonger have a sound card. The problem is that I was sent there to get sound in the firstplace, now I dont even have a card showing up. What's wrong? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Karmic#Sound) and followed the steps exactly as shown, but my sound is still now working. Do you know what is wrong?
[09:26] <ubuntu_nuevo> ubuntu 9.04
[09:26] <Myrtti> eremite: good is such a vague, opinion based entity. You might try #ubuntu-offtopic too
[09:26] <DJones> eremite: I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic thats probably the best bet, its perhaps better for getting opinions, rather than specific support
[09:26] <eremite> johntramp, there is an app in the repositories that puts apps in the tray instead of closing them upon minimization.  I used to use it to keep Thunderbird open.  Alltray, i think its called
[09:26] <eremite> gadget3000, do you know of any games that are not old?
[09:27] <gadget3000> eremite: no, i don't think there are many. The only game that I know works well in wine is half life 2
[09:27] <tarzeau_> haha it's based on gtk1, and "this tab is not yet implemented"
[09:28] <pat|nG> ii type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used does it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?
[09:28] <gadget3000> eremite: In fact if you do find any then let me know :D
[09:28] <brijith> gadget3000:I gave the port numbers
[09:28] <speme> eremite, you can try quake live
[09:28] <brijith> gadget3000:still can't get it
[09:28] <tarzeau_> eremite: it's not like linux is the best platform for games
[09:28] <DVS01> lets see if i can get mortal kombat running in mame in ubuntu :D
[09:28] <gadget3000> brijith: and it still doesnt work? is it giving a different error?
[09:28] <eremite> speme, I hate old boring games with old engines and poor graphics.
[09:29] <brijith> gadget3000:yes Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com: Name or service not known
[09:29] <eremite> brijith, are you having troubles Sending, or recieving, your emails?
[09:29] <brijith> gadget3000:may be because I am behind a proxy server
[09:29] <speme> eremite, It's base firefox.
[09:29] <gadget3000> !repeat | norby_
[09:30] <eremite> You should try using your ISP's outgoing servers instead of Google's.
[09:30] <brijith> eremite:may be because I am behind a proxy server
[09:30] <jeremiah_rose> hey - has anyone here managed to compile gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad? I did it in ubuntu for 0.10.17 without errors, but the plugins don't show up in gst-inspect
[09:30] <pat|nG> ii type jockey-kde and it says no propretiary drivers is in used does it mean i got a built-in gfxcard?
[09:30] <Norby_> That's what i have been doing for the last 2 and a half hours, looking for the answer on the help page.
[09:30] <gadget3000> brijith: ive never used evolution with proxy. You could try just putting the IP address in instead of smtp...
[09:31] <Myrtti> pat|nG: it means that you have a graphics card that doesn't need a proprietary driver. it doesn't necessarily mean it's built-in
[09:31] <eremite> Norby_, reinstall?  Start over?
[09:31] <brontosaurusrex> whats the wildcard for 'starts with .'? .* is not
[09:31] <gadget3000> brijith: it should be 74.125.65.109:587
[09:31] <Explore2> Hi, does ubuntu9.10 have latest gstreamer or are there any ppas?
[09:31] <brijith> gadget3000:74.125.65.109 can be changes to my proxy's  ip rt ?
[09:32] <gadget3000> brijith: Try putting that ip in outgoing server instead of the smtp.gmail.com:587
[09:34] <brijith> gadget3000:Error while Sending message. Could not connect to 192.168.2.1: Connection refused
[09:35] <brontosaurusrex> nm, thunar knows how
[09:35] <gadget3000> brijith: can you surf the net. it sounds like your dns servers arent working proerly
[09:35] <brijith> I can see proxy setting under preference. So it is evident that it is possible to use evolution from behind a proxy server
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:yes
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:I can
[09:36] <orly_owl> I get "Error loading operating system" on jaunty on a thinkpad R51. How do I fix this?
[09:36] <brijith> gadget3000:I can see proxy setting under preference. So it is evident that it is possible to use evolution from behind a proxy server
[09:37] <gadget3000> brijith: For the sake of testing try removing the proxy settings anyway. Is it your own proxy server?
[09:37] <brijith> gadget3000:This is my office network so I can't
[09:39] <orly_owl> anyone?
[09:39] <gadget3000> brijith: try changing the dns severs then. do: 'sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf' and add nameserver dnsip at the top. eg for googles dns servers: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:39] <pshr_> hello... i am trying to install libcv-dev it says it depends on libcvaux-dev and it is not going to be installed when i try to install libcvaux-dev it says it depends on libcv-dev and its not going to be installed
[09:39] <pshr_> how do i slove this :(
[09:40] <pshr_> interdependencies i can say
[09:41] <bashca> hi there   please  help   >>>> mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tags
[09:41] <hyperstream> Can't open dhcpd.conf: Permission denied <---  -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 244 2009-06-26 00:11 dhcpd.conf  , what causes this ? ive tried dhcpd3 and the full path to: dhcpd3
[09:41] <Myrtti> orly_owl: is that the whole error message?
[09:42] <orly_owl> Myrtti: yes. i think it's GRUB
[09:42] <Myrtti> orly_owl: it doesn't say Error 17 or anything?
[09:42] <orly_owl> no
[09:42] <zahari_> Does someone know how to retrive '/etc/apache2' if deleted with "rm -rf"   ??
[09:43] <DVS01> try reinstalling it
[09:43] <brijith> gadget3000:after editing the resolv.conf it is waiting for some time and then shows the same errors
[09:43] <zahari_> DVS01, I had mod-python and it messed up so now I get:
[09:43] <zahari_> DVS01, /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-python.postrm: 7: a2dismod: not found
[09:44] <DVS01> you get that when you try doing what?
[09:44] <gadget3000> brijith: I don't know what else to suggest. Your office may have blocked it. sorry.
[09:44] <iceroot> zahari_: reinstall
[09:45] <iceroot> zahari_: and that is one reason not using rm -rf with root/sudo
[09:45] <brijith> gadget3000: in my office we are using squid as proxy server. Is there anything that I can do in its conf to solve this issue
[09:45] <BenB> how do I add a bug watch in launchpad?
[09:45] <brijith> gadget3000: I can access it
[09:46] <zahari_> iceroot, DVS01, I know but I wanted completly to get rid of apache2
[09:46] <gadget3000> brijith: I have never used squid so I wouldn't know
[09:46] <BenB> I see "remote bug watches" in the bottom left of a launchpad bug, I can even edit it, but I see no way to add a new link to an external bug.
[09:46] <brijith> gadget3000: oky any way thanks
[09:46] <BenB> s/bottom left/bottom right/
[09:46] <DVS01> sudo apt-get purge apache2
[09:46] <iceroot> zahari_: then use apt-get remove --purge instead of rm -rf
[09:46] <zahari_> iceroot, DVS01, and now mod-python has stuk into Synaptic
[09:46] <DVS01> or whatever the package name is
[09:46] <zahari_> Removing libapache2-mod-python ...
[09:46] <zahari_> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-python.postrm: 7: a2dismod: not found
[09:46] <zahari_> dpkg: error processing libapache2-mod-python (--remove):
[09:46] <zahari_>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[09:46] <zahari_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:46] <FloodBot1> zahari_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <zahari_>  libapache2-mod-python
[09:47] <iceroot> zahari_: yes, mod_python will be removed with a2dismod, because there is no apache anymore, there is also no a2dismod
[09:47] <Explore2> what is lib<package> and package in apt-cache?
[09:47] <iceroot> zahari_: reinstall apache to have a2dismod, then remove it with remove --purge instead of rm -rf
[09:48] <brontosaurusrex> does gnome have something similar to osx folder actions built in?
[09:48] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[09:48] <bashca> hi there   please  help   >>>> mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tags
[09:48] <iceroot> brontosaurusrex: what is a folder-action?
[09:48] <knandan> Hi..
[09:49] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: i'd say a user specific action is executed when there is a directory change
[09:49] <hyperstream> Can't open dhcpd.conf: Permission denied <---  -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 244 2009-06-26 00:11 dhcpd.conf  , what causes this ? ive tried dhcpd3 and the full path to: dhcpd3
[09:49] <brontosaurusrex> iceroot: something like that
[09:49] <knandan> just wanted to know whats the diff between different versions of Ubuntu..??
[09:49] <zahari_> iceroot, sorry for pasting I didn't know rules are that strict
[09:49] <mullein> how can i find out what version of ubuntu is installed?
[09:50] <DJones> knandan: Ubuntu uses Gnome as its desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE and Xubuntu uses XFCE
[09:50] <alteregoa> uname -r
[09:50] <om26er> mullein, system>administration>system monitor for gui
[09:50] <kwork> as default, you can use any of them on any of them
[09:50] <rww> ubottu: version | mullein
[09:51] <zahari_> iceroot, I cannot install/reinstall or remove anything because of 'libapache2-mod-python' it exits with error 127 of post install script
[09:51] <knandan> DJones: Thanks for response..
[09:51] <knandan> by version i mean..the different releases..
[09:51] <knandan> sorry for not being specific..
[09:51] <mullein> rww, thank you.  that was precisely what i needed
[09:52] <knandan> for e..g jaunty/karmic/koala etc..
[09:52] <zahari_> iceroot, I cannot install/reinstall or remove anything because of 'libapache2-mod-python' it exits with error 127 of post install script
[09:53] <ardchoille> knandan: newer version of software, and sometimes replacements likepidgin replaced with empathy in Karmic
[09:53] <DJones> knandan: No probs, Ubuntu is released every 6 months with updated versions of software, normally, if a new version is released, its not added to the current version unless it fixes a bug or security concern, effectively every 6 months you get a new version with the latest software, jaunty & karmic are the code names, jaunty was released in April 2009, Karmic in October 2010 etc
[09:54] <zahari_> iceroot, all this is happening because I deleted with "rm -rf /etc/apache2". Is there a way I an get out of this ?
[09:54] <brontosaurusrex> so Karmic came from the future? well thats really progress
[09:54] <DJones> brontosaurusrex: Ah well, I'm not awake yet :)
[09:54] <brontosaurusrex> ;)
[09:55] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[09:55] <rww> brontosaurusrex, DJones: October 2009 ;)
[09:55] <DJones> knandan: As brontosaurusrex noticed, Karmic should have said released October 2009
[09:56] <knandan> DJones..thanks..yes..i have already seen teh Karmic release..:-)
[09:56] <ardchoille> knandan: and some of the releases are LTS (Long Term Support) which is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server. Ubuntu 10.04 will be such a release
[09:56] <knandan> ardchoille: does that mean installation of pidgin on Karmic will fail?
[09:57] <ardchoille> iirc, 8.04 was the last LTS release4
[09:57] <ardchoille> knandan: not at all, I use pidgin in Karmic now
[09:57] <DJones> knandan: I use pidgin on karmic
[09:57]  * om26er use empathy
[09:57] <ardchoille> knandan: it's just one app swapped for another is all
[09:57] <alteregoa> i use pigthing in spastic sparrow
[09:58] <knandan> ardchoille DJones : I see..
[09:58] <ardchoille> alteregoa: Please stop that, you have been wanred numerous times and kicked once. Haven't you learned yet?
[09:58] <alteregoa> ardchoille what, i said what i used on my ubuntu fork
[09:59] <ikonia> alteregoa: this channel is for ubuntu support - not an ubuntu fork support
[09:59] <alteregoa> ok Sir
[10:00] <Shogoot> how do i make the join/parts messages to turn off? driving me insane...
[10:00] <ardchoille> Shogoot: in xchat?
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: which client are you using?
[10:00] <Shogoot> mirc plain
[10:00] <alteregoa> mirc
[10:00] <ardchoille> Shogoot: never heard of it
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: http://clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[10:00] <Shogoot> its the win original irc client
[10:00] <rww> Shogoot: `View => Options => pick "IRC". Click the "Events..." button. Change the "joins", "parts", "quits", and "nicks" to your desired settings: "In Status" or "Hide" are good options.`
[10:01] <yipstar> anyone familar with kvm around?
[10:01] <ikonia> yipstar: what's up ?
[10:01] <alteregoa> events
[10:01] <jk-cheng> on the user applet... in karmic it display username...
[10:02] <alteregoa> then select defaukt and use no
[10:02] <jk-cheng> how can i change it to Full name...
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: Why are you using KVM? why not VirtualBox
[10:02] <alteregoa> just click events on the channel, and hide the event for mirc
[10:02] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: why should he not use kvm ?
[10:02] <bilalakhtar> ikonia: well kvm is difficult to use
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> ikonia
[10:03] <Shogoot> solved thanks
[10:03] <yipstar> ikonia: having trouble with ubuntu-vm-builder command whenever i pass the --libvirt qemu:///system option it fails with: libvir: Domain Config error : internal error not supported architecture for os type 'hvm'
[10:03] <alteregoa> i use mirc with wine, because it works better
[10:03] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: depends - I find it quite easy
[10:03] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: not sure... i was told kvm was good stuff, haven't really investigated VirtualBox yet
[10:03] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: Find info about KVM here:- http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[10:04] <ikonia> yipstar: ahh for vm-builder, join #ubuntu-virt, some good guys who actually built the builder
[10:04] <ikonia> yipstar: I don't use the builder to be honest
[10:04] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: thats the howto i'm following to the t
[10:04] <ikonia> (or at least very often)
[10:04] <yipstar> ikonia: thanks i'll give them a try
[10:04] <jk-cheng> on the panel user applet... in karmic it display username... how can i change it to Full name...
[10:04] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: KVM is MUCH more powerful than virtualbox
[10:05] <bilalakhtar> yipstar: So, if you want to use it, good
[10:05] <bilalakhtar> guys will return in a min
[10:05] <yipstar> bilalakhtar: i was a previous xen user but since ubuntu dropped support for it i'm trying to keep up with the times
[10:06] <alteregoa> someone has a good star-trek theme for ubuntu?
[10:06] <ikonia> alteregoa: look on the theme sites for lcars
[10:06] <Gnow> freeradius anyone?
[10:06] <ikonia> Gnow: that's not a question, try asking a quetion
[10:07] <Gnow> i wanna setup a freeradius server but the info i got from the web is different from the radiusd.conf that i have. anyone can give me a hint?
[10:07] <alteregoa> fascinating thanks ikonia
[10:07] <ikonia> Gnow: what website are you using, and what ubuntu version are you using ?
[10:07] <yipstar> ikonia: do you know if i can use the virsh command to register a vm after it has been created? effectively just not trying to do that part with the vm-builder command
[10:07] <ikonia> yipstar: you should be able to find, as long as the config xml confirms to the same host
[10:07] <yipstar> since vm-builder seems to run fine as long as i leave the --libvirt option out
[10:07] <ikonia> "fine" not find
[10:07] <ardchoille> alteregoa: I remember seeing lots of LCARS stuff on www.gnome-look.org
[10:08] <Gnow> ikonia this is the info i follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ChillispotHotspot/8.04, but the same way i install it but the radiusd.conf is different
[10:08] <yipstar> ikonia: is that just the attach-device command?
[10:09] <ikonia> yipstar: I don't know of the top of my head
[10:09] <tiagotiago> hi
[10:09] <yipstar> ikonia: cool i'll do my own homework its just late :) thanks for the help
[10:09] <csaba> I've changed /etc/profile... how can I make the changes effective without restarting the computer?
[10:10] <nachow> . profile
[10:10] <ikonia> yipstar: you'll be fine with it though
[10:10] <nachow> or source profile
[10:11] <bilalakhtar> hi ppl does anyone know how to install firefox 3.6 on ubuntu karmic
[10:11] <tiagotiago> i've already trired the metamode thing with disabling one monitor, but i still have fullscreen games showing halfway out of my primary monitor (i have two CRT, side by side using twinview, the primary is the one on the right)
[10:11] <tiagotiago> tried*
[10:11] <nachow> if you can't use . or source, abandon this crappy distro
[10:11] <bilalakhtar> sabdfl: I wish you were here!
[10:11] <csaba> yeah . works
[10:11] <nachow> ...
[10:13] <cyberjorge> anyone used "Badram kernel"? is it worth using and is it a major thing to setup?
[10:13] <movied_> brb
[10:14] <brontosaurusrex> what else should i backup http://bronto.pastebin.com/m7f8f0a8a ?
[10:14] <tiagotiago> how can i have fullscreen games go to a single monitor (preferably my primary), without loosing twinview, without loosing single cube for two monitors, and with the fullscreen game being properly centered and scaled?
[10:15] <DJones> bilalakhtar: You can use the Mozilla Daily Build PPA to install Firefox 3.6 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa Bt be aware that because its not part of the normal Ubuntu repository, it's generally unsupported
[10:15] <csaba> I'm deleting a large directory with rm -rf is there a way to display some percentages and ETA?
[10:15] <mgolisch> no
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: open another terminal, and use "watch du -sh /path/to/folder"
[10:20] <stix> Hi guys. Can I update my firefox to 3.6 via one of the package managers, or do I need to do it myself?
[10:20] <Alvinware> How to get bak the removed panel?
[10:20] <Kamcio> czesc;)
[10:20] <Kamcio> poklika ktos
[10:20] <Kamcio> hehehehe
[10:21] <DJones> !cz
[10:21] <Alvinware> Any one know how to get back the panel?
[10:21] <Kamcio> siema djones
[10:21] <csaba> Lunar_Lamp: and uh what would that do?
[10:21] <tiagotiago_> seems my connection hickupped, if anyone had answered me please repeat
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: it would give you the size of the directory '/path/to/folder' every 2seconds.
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> Thus allowing you to see the approx rate of deletion of files within that folder.
[10:22] <csaba> Lunar_Lamp: ah interesting
[10:23] <hawodi> Hello all.
[10:23] <Lunar_Lamp> csaba: when you've finished with it, use ctrl+c to exit.
[10:23] <Kamcio> welcome to my word frends;)
[10:24] <Kamcio> what sup ?
[10:24] <tolpico> Trying to increase my resolution, installed nvidia drivers, but nvidia-settings still doesnt show the updated reolution list containing higher resolutions. How should I go about this?
[10:24] <ikonia> Kamcio: type "/topic" to see the topic of this channel, it's a support channel aimed at the support discussion of Ubuntu
[10:24] <Kamcio> chuj z wami kutasy
[10:25] <tolpico> My xorg.conf, if it helps: http://pastebin.com/m54aa16be
[10:28] <Kamcio> pomoze ktos?
[10:28] <tiagotiago_> restarting to test somthing, be back in abit
[10:28] <Kamcio> nie znam zbyt dobrze angielskeigo a mam duzy problem
[10:28] <Kamcio> z kompem;/
[10:28] <Kamcio> prosze pomocy!
[10:28] <Kamcio> nie badzcie tacy
[10:28] <FloodBot1> Kamcio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <XeroXer> Hi all! Does anyone have a good way to detect what monitor (if any) is connected at boot? I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. On 32 bit I used a script with ddcprobe that moved the correct xorg.conf file at bootup. But ddcprobe doesn't work on 64 bit for me.
[10:28] <BooRadley> !english | Kamcio
[10:28] <Kamcio> ok sorry frends
[10:28] <BooRadley> !pl | Kamcio
[10:29] <hawodi> I just installed wine on my system ( Ubuntu Karmic ) and I get this error when ever I try starting wine from the command line: /usr/lib/../bin/wine-pthread: could not open
[10:29] <Kamcio> ok dzieki chlopaki 3majcie sie ramy to sie nie posram
[10:29] <BooRadley> Kamcio: please stop?
[10:29] <Revlex> hi
[10:29] <tiagotiago_> nope, setting the offser of the emtamode to somthing negative didn't recenter the fullscreen stufff :(
[10:32] <geekyogi> I've problem with vsftpd.. I am using chroot option to lock or jail the local user to their home directory... but when i use a browser.. as anonymous.. its able to navigate to root directory.. any solution to prevent this..??
[10:33] <tiagotiago_> is there a way i can force all fullscreen programs to actually be windowed?
[10:33] <llutz> geekyogi: don't allow anonymous access
[10:33] <geekyogi> i need anonymous access
[10:35] <ikonia> geekyogi: then set your file system permissions correctly
[10:37] <geekyogi> ikonia file permissions for /var/ftp ..??
[10:38] <Gary20> is there any special meaning when underscore is used as first character in naming a file? like the dot?
[10:39] <rww> Gary20: not that I know of
[10:39] <Gary20> alright
[10:41] <ikonia> geekyogi: for either your chroot or the /root file system,
[10:41] <ikonia> geekyogi: depending on if you have the user chrooted correctly (which it doesn't sound like you do)
[10:42] <hawodi> am getting this error whenever I try to start wine on karmic kaola.
[10:42] <Explore2> How can see the man page of a function with in vim
[10:43] <FunkyWeasel> Morning.
[10:43] <Explore2> for eg. if i need to see man fopen,
[10:43] <Explore2> how can i see?
[10:43] <FunkyWeasel> When using saveAll on a HABTM model the created/modified fields of the related tables are not updating.
[10:44] <ikonia> Explore2: why do you need to see it in vim - man is the command
[10:44] <tiagotiago_> how can i get rid of this SCiM thing, it popped up without i wanitng it and it keeps changing the language :/
[10:45] <clamiax> hi
[10:45] <FunkyWeasel> Oh dear, sorry.  Wrong chan.  D'oh.
[10:45]  * FunkyWeasel gets his coat.
[10:45] <clamiax> I got today an HP Pavilion 3003el with Windows 7 pre-installed (sigh)
[10:45] <clamiax> I'm going to install Ubuntu 9.10 but I wondering if the remote control will works
[10:45] <clamiax> does anyone have an idea about?
[10:45] <clamiax> TIA.
[10:46] <ikonia> clamiax: what remote control daemon do you want to use ?
[10:46] <clamiax> ikonia: whatever it works
[10:46] <Oli``> Is there a way to get Compiz to position windows in the same way that Metacity would? (ie centred in the middle of a screen, rather than touching borders)
[10:46] <ghthor> clamiax, that's why I build my own machines
[10:46] <clamiax> As far as I can tell, LIRC doesn't supports my device
[10:47] <ikonia> clamiax: you don't know if it will work or not until you decide what daemon to use, eg: if you want to use irda go tot he irda website and see if it supports the device/chipset
[10:47] <clamiax> ikonia: my device is not listed in any of the existing daemon hardware list
[10:47] <ikonia> clamiax: then it's not supported
[10:47] <clamiax> ghthor: what do you mean?
[10:48] <cyberjorge> otherwise recompile all my vm kernels
[10:48] <cyberjorge> anyone used "Badram kernel"? is it worth using and is it a major thing to setup?
[10:48] <geekyogi> @ikonia edited vsftpd.conf file.. der is no option to jail the anonymous user preventing it to view the root folders.. though its not able to access any of these folders.. The root folder's permission seems fine...
[10:48] <clamiax> ikonia: mmh... i'll have to try. Many time I get devices working even if they was not listed into the supported hardware list
[10:48] <ikonia> clamiax: then why ask ?
[10:49] <clamiax> ikonia: because I'd hope to hair some success story about it (and maybe some informations on how to setting it up)
[10:49] <clamiax> ikonia: it's obvious.
[10:49] <ghthor> clamiax: Putting together your own build rather then buying a "dell" means no pre-installed windows
[10:49] <ikonia> clamiax: you didn't give any info on the device, you jus said a hp laptop
[10:49] <ikonia> clamiax: if you reference the chipset some people may be more aware
[10:49] <clamiax> ghthor: that's doable with your own hardware; though this is my girlfriend's laptop and I would like to install Ubuntu on it
[10:50] <paolo> ciao
[10:50] <ghthor> oh its a laptop >_>
[10:50] <paolo> !list
[10:50] <clamiax> mmh
[10:50] <clamiax> ikonia: you must have some problem with your IRC client. I wrote HP Pavilion 3003el
[10:51] <clamiax> that's all you need to get informations about my hardware.
[10:51] <TiagoTiago> another thing, the Enhanced Zoom thing in Compiz isn't working anymore, it doesn't zoom, and makes the mouse cursor disapear or move weirdly, how do i fix this?
[10:51] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: compiz acts weirdly sometime. You need a bit of lucky when enabling new stuff. Try again.
[10:52] <clamiax> Though I'm not sure it's related to compiz rather then the video driver.
[10:53] <paolo> ciao
[10:53] <clamiax> e ciao
[10:53] <TiagoTiago> what can i do to try to fix this?
[10:53] <rambo3> where is sh located ? /usr/ ?
[10:53] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it depends on your skills.
[10:54] <clamiax> To be honest, I can't help you much. Compiz is offlimit for me.
[10:54] <TiagoTiago> i can follow instructions and extrapolate from things that make sense
[10:54] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it may be useful tu strace(1) compiz in order to understand what's wrong
[10:55] <clamiax> but I'm pretty sure a web surfing can be fast and yet helpful.
[10:55] <TiagoTiago> "tu strace(1)" what does that mean? is that a command i should run on a terminal?
[10:56] <barije> asdh
[10:56] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: yes. It is, but if you never used it, then it can appear weird to you
[10:56] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: does the mouse will appeare again if you switch to a VT, then back to X11?
[10:57] <pretender_> is there a command in linux to list all users logged onto a windows terminal server
[10:57] <Bluespuke> hello, i've a problem... i've a laptop (no floppy, cd broken, no usb boot) with 9.10 installed on it. i need win XP besides or as replacement... any ideas how i could do this?
[10:58] <TiagoTiago> the mouse flickers, jitters, and somtimes disapear, right clicking seems to bring it back to normal, and  scrollling out, the motion to zoom out back to normal, also seems to fix it
[10:58] <clamiax> Bluespuke: wrong channel
[10:59] <while> win xp
[10:59] <while> and he`s on ubuntu channel
[10:59] <while> :))))))))
[10:59] <clamiax> don't byte newbie. They're just newbie ;-)
[10:59] <clamiax> And don't byte me for my terrible english :-(
[11:00] <while> if he managed to install 9.10 on his laptop lol he must me able to install win xp
[11:00] <Bluespuke> sorry, but the current os is ubuntu and i don't know how to get an alternate partition without using a live cd
[11:00] <while> don`t worry about your english lol :D
[11:00] <TiagoTiago> clamiax, i tried runnign the command you told me, and the terminal said "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[11:00] <while> external cd-rom
[11:00] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: what did you run, exactly?
[11:01] <TiagoTiago> i just copy/pasted wha tyou wrote
[11:01] <msilva> hello, good morning to all, I would like to help me install the metasploit umbuntu grateful ...
[11:01] <QPrime> Bluespuke: apt-get install gparted
[11:01] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: you should read strace(1) before drive you crazy with useless attempts.
[11:01] <while> try using #!/bin/bash -x
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> what do you mean bu "read strace(1)"" ?
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> by*
[11:02] <QPrime> Bluespuke: assuming that you have net access.
[11:02] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: read the man page for strace (which is at section 1)
[11:02] <Bluespuke> QPrime: yes i do
[11:02] <QPrime> Bluespuke: apt-get install gparted
[11:02] <TiagoTiago> ok
[11:03] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: but again, you should use strace as last resource. Try to surf the web first, it's likely you'll find a solution.
[11:05] <Jaime1985> Hello-Permission to request to paste a link that involves voting for me to join the creative national team of my country. I could use the votes. May I Paste my creative entry for you all to vote?
[11:05] <Jaime1985> its quick to vote.
[11:05] <clamiax> Jaime1985: why someone should vote you?
[11:05] <DJones> Jaime1985: This is a support channel, so it wouldn't be appropriate here
[11:05] <Bluespuke> ok, i got gparted but i can't resize the current partition...
[11:05] <TiagoTiago> i was focusing my websearches on the misaligned fullscreen issue, i hadn't thought about looking up stuff about this glitch, here ont he channel, since i didn't got answer for my first inquiry i started asking for help with less important issues i'm having
[11:05] <Jaime1985> because I believe my entry is comendable
[11:05] <Jaime1985> its very quick.
[11:05] <Jaime1985> and you will enjoy my design
[11:06] <Jaime1985> and this oppertunity comes once in a long time
[11:06] <QPrime> Bluespuke: makes sense.. its active at the moment.
[11:06] <clamiax> uhm
[11:06] <clamiax> you didn't convinced me. Wrong channel, bye.
[11:06] <Bluespuke> QPrime: that i knew before... so if i have just 1 partition and no boot options, i'm f*cked up?
[11:08] <QPrime> Bluespuke: perhaps not.
[11:08] <QPrime> Bluespuke: but it gets more difficult
[11:08] <KinkyKamikaze> I am trying to install a bunch of stuff, most compiled from source. How can I install them, where do you normally place them, and what do I type in my path to get access to them as they were normally installed with apt-get
[11:08] <Bluespuke> that's why i'm here to get a little help ;-)
[11:09] <while> clamiax, hahahaha "you didn't convinced me. Wrong channel, bye."
[11:09] <QPrime> Bluespuke: its possible to create a ram drive copy some needed files and swap roots to the new drive.
[11:09] <TiagoTiago> another symptom to add ot the list, the background of the spinnning cube is gettign whited out
[11:09] <QPrime> Bluespuke: thats more involved than most ppl are willing to help with :(
[11:10] <QPrime> Bluespuke: you said usb boot is a no go?
[11:10] <Bluespuke> QPrime: no usb boot and cd drive is broken...
[11:10] <nachow> livexxx is crap
[11:10] <nachow> they are not flexable
[11:11] <while> BlueEagle, you have comport ?
[11:11] <TiagoTiago> reloaidng the windows manager fixed that last one
[11:11] <TiagoTiago> damn, only untill i tried zomming again :/
[11:11] <arand> Bluespuke: pxe boot?
[11:12] <Bluespuke> arand: i heared about this, what do i need for it?
[11:12] <Bluespuke> i just have another xp computer around
[11:12] <QPrime> arand: good idea... but hes gonna need a server
[11:12] <nachow> somebody can try to break in your network and pxe your systems
[11:13] <Spajderix> hi
[11:13] <nachow> thet'a why
[11:13] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: it seems there's a bug about the XFIXES extension of X which nobodywants to fix
[11:13] <wild_oscar> does anyone know if NetworkManager supports dynamic APN for mobile connections?
[11:13] <TiagoTiago> :(
[11:13] <QPrime> Bluespuke: does you box even support pxe booting?
[11:13] <kakuzu> hi is there anyone of you who ever tried "wubi" ? am planning to use linux
[11:14] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: but it also seems to be a workaround ;)
[11:14] <Bluespuke> network boot yes, if that's what you mean
[11:14] <TiagoTiago> where can i read about it?
[11:14] <nachow> i won't cause its name
[11:14] <nachow> cause of
[11:14] <QPrime> Bluespuke: yup thats it.
[11:14] <nachow> wubi = cheating in mandarin
[11:14] <Spajderix> I'm running hardy on asus laptop with sata 250gb hdd. hdparm -t /dev/sda shows approximately 8MB/s but when I start ubuntu 9.10 live same command shows 60MB/s. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:15] <kakuzu> wubi = ubuntu installer for windows :|
[11:15] <arand> Bluespuke: There are a few options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[11:15] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: i'm actually reading this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/227907
[11:15] <QPrime> Bluespuke: well you have an option.  pxe is not specific to linux you should be able to find info on it with a search.
[11:15] <Jaime1985> http://www.designindaba.com/superstars/entry/jaime-de-gouveia
[11:15] <alteregoa> i need a klinzhai font
[11:15] <Bluespuke> QPrime: ok, i'll give it a try
[11:16] <Guest56415> hi all
[11:16] <alteregoa> did ya hear a quake shattered antarctica with 9.3 on the richter scale
[11:16] <ardchoille> !ot | alteregoa
[11:17] <alteregoa> ah wrong channel sorry
[11:18] <clamiax> TiagoTiago: just to try, disable Twinview in xorg.conf
[11:18] <clamiax> and try to use EZoom again.
[11:18] <tiagotiago_> i rememebr i once saw this setting, it was somthing baout fullscreen, id on't remember what it was, nor where it was located, much less it's name, i think it was somewhere in the compix settings, but i could be wrong, any idea?
[11:19] <tiagotiago_> i gotta loose twinview? :/
[11:19] <clamiax> uhm... it's just a try to understand where's the problem
[11:19] <clamiax> no idea about fullscreen thing in compiz
[11:19] <defn> What's the fastest way to get a vnc server running on 9.10?  I find it hard to believe there's no package that will just automatically add it to init.d etc.
[11:19] <mzimbres> hi, how can I find out which services are running on which ports? of the local host?
[11:19] <pat|nG> how can i put a picture on my desktop? like want it to set as a wallpaper?
[11:20] <tiagotiago_> i think it was near this other checkbox about rendering to off screen textures or somthing
[11:20] <clamiax> nfc
[11:20] <simplexio> mzimbres: netstat -l
[11:21] <Beto> #T-P
[11:21] <tiagotiago_> ok, now i lost one monitor, for the moment, brb
[11:22] <wild_oscar> also, is there a timer in network manager that can display the total connected time?
[11:22] <wild_oscar> (I have a prepaid GSM connection, want to have my costs controlled)
[11:22] <tparcina> Hi channel!
[11:23] <tparcina> How to get more informations about perticular PCIE card? (I would like to get information about chipset of my wireless card)
[11:23] <clamiax> wild_oscar: try with accounting rules of iptables or just install an ad-hoc tool.
[11:23] <victor__> hi i wanna install kubuntu9.10 into a usb memory of 8Gb of capacity but i'm not sure if it's gonna works...
[11:23] <tparcina> wild_oscar: Smart (having prepaid card).
[11:24] <wild_oscar> tparcina: smart is the name of a tool?
[11:24] <clamiax> wild_oscar: unlucky, ifconfig doesn't supports statistics anymore.
[11:24] <tiagotiago_> hm, i think i messed up somthing, sec
[11:24] <clamiax> victor__: why it shouldn't works?
[11:24] <clamiax> tiagotiago_ :)
[11:24] <nachow> is ubuntu designed for a usbkey or a memory card?
[11:24] <tparcina> wild_oscar: No, smart is to have GSM on prepaid :)
[11:24] <wild_oscar> tparcina: haha! oh
[11:24] <nachow> iirc, ubuntu is designed for livecd
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: no, but it will works anyway.
[11:25] <victor__> clamiax: i mean is the capacity enough? is the OS working very slower?
[11:25] <nachow> yes, but something will go wrong
[11:25] <tparcina> How to find out whic chipset does my wireless card have (PCIE)?
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: though, there's some version which is designed to be run on portable devices.
[11:25] <wild_oscar> tparcina: yeah, I don't need mobile broadband all the time; just when I go to meetings. rather expensive, but good if they do charge on 5 minute increments
[11:25] <clamiax> nachow: whath will go wrong, to you?
[11:25] <nachow> you will know
[11:26] <clamiax> victor__: the capacity is enough, about speed: it seems obvious that it will be slower than a SATA disk.
[11:26] <clamiax> nachow: i'll wait then.
[11:27] <victor__> clamiax: but is the different too big?
[11:27] <nachow> i hate dd guys
[11:27] <clamiax> victor__: I think the only difference is the storage device. All the hardware is exactly the same, isn't?
[11:28] <Bluespuke> hmm, i've another idea: is it possible to reinstall (and reformat the disks) from an existing ubuntu installation?
[11:28] <victor__> clamiax: yeah
[11:28]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[11:28] <clamiax> Bluespuke: it sounds a bit tricky but I guess it's possible.
[11:29] <nachow> how can you format a on-fly disk?
[11:29] <clamiax> Bluespuke: why should you do a thing like that?
[11:29] <clamiax> nachow: mfs?
[11:29] <clamiax> err
[11:29] <clamiax> *mkfs
[11:29] <nachow> on root partition?
[11:29] <Bluespuke> clamiax: so i could get another partition to copy a live cd and install xp
[11:30] <clamiax> nachow: on any partition
[11:30] <clamiax> Bluespuke: mmh.. your problem is that you haven't enough space to get the live CD?
[11:30] <nachow> hahaha
[11:31]  * nachow is tired of these dd guys
[11:31] <Bluespuke> clamiax: i have a lot of space (70gb) but it's only one partition
[11:31] <clamiax> nachow: what's wrong with dd?
[11:31] <clamiax> Bluespuke: ah, what mountpoint/filesystem?
[11:31] <nachow> it sounds like to upgrade the toolchian on a running system
[11:32] <clamiax> nachow: NetBSD people do it once a week
[11:32] <clamiax> ;)
[11:32] <nachow> dd guys ruin many systems until they get a glith way to work
[11:32] <papul> i am trying to compile a program and i want it to install to /home/papul/dir and not any where else
[11:32] <nachow> then they think that they are smarter than other people
[11:32] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, anyone know a fair amount about SSL
[11:32] <nwillems> Hi. I have a problem with external monitors for my laptop. I have 2 external monitors, a normal 19" monitor and a Full-HD flat-screen.
[11:32] <papul> !ask | Jimi_Neutral
[11:33] <Bluespuke> clamiax: it's the ubuntu drive
[11:33] <clamiax> papul: if it uses autof*ck stuff use the --prefix option, else edit the config.mk file.
[11:33] <papul> clamiax: --prefix???
[11:33] <dsearle> papul: If it is using standard makefiles you can use make DESTDIR=dir install
[11:33] <papul> please tell me the exact command
[11:33] <clamiax> Bluespuke: it sounds hard then
[11:33] <mzimbres> papul, ./configure --prefix=/home/papul/dir
[11:33] <papul> mzimbres: ok thanks
[11:34] <papul> no need to do anything during make install?
[11:34] <clamiax> papul: ./configure --help will tell you all options. You have to use ./configure --prefix=<destination> anyway
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> I didnt ask to ask a question lol
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> I said does anyone know a fair bit about SSL
[11:34] <Jimi_Neutral> that is a question :D
[11:34] <papul> Jimi_Neutral: go to #ssl
[11:34] <dsearle> papul: if you use the prefix method in config then no
[11:34] <clamiax> Jimi_Neutral: someone know about SSL for sure.
[11:34] <papul> ok thanks for the help all of you :)
[11:35] <papul> now lemme try compiling it
[11:35] <mzimbres> papul, no, just make and make install since you have writte permissions to that directory.
[11:35] <Jimi_Neutral> thos channels dont exist
[11:35] <nwillems> Jimi_Neutral, I'm no expert in SSL, but maybee I can guide you in the right direction, or maybee just point you to the channel #ssl
[11:35] <clamiax> JimiNeutral: try #openssl
[11:35] <clamiax> oh, sorry. *Jimi_Neutral.
[11:36] <Jimi_Neutral> tht one does tho clamiax ty :)
[11:36] <clamiax> yw
[11:37] <clamiax> Thanks anyway for your help and time. BBL
[11:37] <skydrome> is there a way to dim all but the foreground window?
[11:38] <ardchoille> skydrome: compiz can do that but I know of no other way
[11:38] <greenlantern> Hello
[11:38] <nwillems> I have a problem when connecting my flat-screen tv to my laptop, and the afterwards connecting my PC-monitor, and back again to the flat-screen, my laptop dosen't recognise the flat-scrren second time. Neither GUI or xrandr :(
[11:38] <skydrome> ya preferably without compiz
[11:39] <indus> hi
[11:39] <ardchoille> skydrome: That would be the responsibility of the window manager and Metacity can't do it
[11:39] <pat|nG> how can i put a picture on my desktop? like want it to set as a wallpaper?
[11:39] <indus> does anyone know if pasting how tos from ubuntu site to another blog is legal?
[11:39] <skydrome> ahh makes sense, ty ardchoille
[11:39] <ardchoille> yw
[11:39] <Younes> hi. What's the deal with ubuntu-netbook-remix? It's terrible
[11:40] <nwillems> indus, it probably is, as long as you credit the poster or release as same license, just a sec
[11:40] <ardchoille> pat|nG: right click the desktop, choose Change background, click the Add button and find a picture to use
[11:40] <Explore2> ikonia: man fopen can't i do?
[11:40] <nwillems> indus, what site exactly are you talking about?
[11:40] <Explore2> it doesn't work in shell also
[11:41] <ardchoille> Which package provides the script-worker tool?
[11:43] <papul_> i want to install a package called c-ares
[11:43] <papul_> but i cant find it in the repos
[11:44] <indus> nwillems, hi
[11:44] <papul> anyone?
[11:44] <indus> nwillems, from help.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <nwillems> Copyed from https://help.ubuntu.com/legal.html: Creative Commons ShareAlike 3.0 License (CC-BY-SA)
[11:45] <Younes> hi. Can I skip netbook-remix and go with a desktop instead on my netbook?
[11:45] <pat|nG> how can i activate my 3D desktop? do i need to install some program to do with it?
[11:46] <Younes> pat|nG settings->visual effects .. done
[11:46] <Younes> something like that*
[11:46] <pat|nG> i used kubuntu tho
[11:47] <pat|nG> is it the same?
[11:47] <Myrtti> pat|nG: no.
[11:47] <nwillems> indus, here is the short description of it: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[11:47] <pat|nG> so where can i change that?
[11:47] <Myrtti> pat|nG: why don't you ask in #kubuntu?
[11:48] <nwillems> indus, I promise you will understand this license page, I've used it for my own blog
[11:48] <pat|nG> no one is there
[11:48] <echo> hi
[11:48] <pat|nG> it's a ghost channel
[11:49] <Myrtti> pat|nG: 240nicks though
[11:49] <echo> welcome to freedom)
[11:49] <pat|nG> yup
[11:49] <pat|nG> but one do reply
[11:49] <pat|nG> :(
[11:49] <pat|nG> now atlast someone is here
[11:50] <marcuy> hi pat|nG
[11:50] <indus> nwillems, i have copy pasted to my blog, but its a company blog
[11:50] <indus> dont want any legal problems
[11:51] <rodfersou> hi everyone
[11:52] <Gary20> when coding in windows, i interact and store data in .ini files. is there an something like that in linux?
[11:52] <marcuy> hi rodfersou
[11:53] <rodfersou> what steps I follow to statically link a program into ubuntu? (I wanna statically link irssi to put the binary into my pendrive)
[11:53] <Myrtti> Gary20: very much so, in linux everything is saved in files
[11:53] <rodfersou> marcuy, =]
[11:53] <Myrtti> Gary20: linux doesn't have a windows registry kind of mechanism
[11:53] <Gary20> Myrtti, oh yeah. everything is file in linux. forgot
[11:53] <indus> happy new year folks :)
[11:53] <Gary20> Myrtti, so there's no specific format such as .ini?
[11:54] <Myrtti> Gary20: some apps use gconf format, some don't. Some store their configs in .config-directory, some don't.
[11:54] <Gary20> ok
[11:54] <nwillems> indus, try reading the simple license page: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
[11:55] <nwillems> indus, its 20 lines of short text
[11:55] <indus> nwillems, yes i did, but trust me,its not that simple sometimes
[11:55] <rodfersou> Gary20, gconf is almost like windows registry
[11:55] <indus> anyways thanks for the help.
[11:56] <fasta> When I do 'tsocks telnet yahoo.com' I get telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Transport endpoint is already connected. Why?
[11:56] <Gary20> "... XML file storage is the most common configuration." ?
[11:57] <Myrtti> Gary20: some files use that format, some don't. It's totally up to the developer what configuration format they use.
[11:59] <nwillems> indus, sry for leaving, just fucked up my display settings bad :P
[11:59] <indus> nwillems, ok easy on the language
[11:59] <Gary20> ok. i'll look into this more. thanks
[12:00] <indus> though, in some 100 years that word will mean something totally different
[12:00] <nwillems> indus, oh my appologize
[12:00] <indus> :D
[12:01] <nwillems> indus, did the simple license page help you?
[12:01] <echo> when ubuntu will support Fn keys ?
[12:01] <echo> * on samsung r60 laptops
[12:02] <fasta> echo: probably when someone pays to do so.
[12:02] <nwillems> echo, When you find out, please tell me :) I have an Lenovo S10e
[12:02] <indus> nwillems, yes thanks
[12:02] <indus> nwillems, cc sa license
[12:02] <fasta> echo: basically, someone has to figure out how the Windows drivers work and then port it to Linux.
[12:03] <nwillems> fasta, couldn't you just look at the raw-keyboard output?
[12:04] <ycy___> hi there
[12:04] <tiagotiago> switching off twinview gives me the zoom back, but i can't get it to work well with each monitor as it's own x session :/
[12:04] <ycy___> I have x11vnc auto-runned upon system boot. How do I know where is it launched? [i mean: in which file]
[12:05] <suigeneris> ycy___ grep
[12:05] <ycy___> suigeneris: in which dir
[12:05] <nwillems> Can anyone tell me how to setup my HD flatscreen for 720p? The GUI and xrandr dosen't detect it until restart
[12:05] <tiagotiago> fullscreen also work correctly without twinview :/
[12:05] <echo> i am satisfied all.. but only brightness adjustment not normally working..
[12:05] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc# grep -R x11vnc *
[12:05] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc#
[12:05] <tiagotiago> hm, gonna see how bad Xinerama is
[12:06] <suigeneris> grep -r x11vnc /etc/init.d
[12:06] <suigeneris> ycy___ ^^
[12:06] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc# grep -r x11vnc /etc/init.d/
[12:06] <ycy___> root@servertwo:/etc#
[12:06] <nwillems> echo, I'm neither having any real problems, its just wireless on/off and "screen changer"
[12:08] <echo> nwillems, my wi-fi adapter can be powered on/off by network manager or "ifconfig up/down wlan0" but works only in 9.10
[12:08] <ashrafbaha2> mk
[12:08] <London90> does anyone know when firefox 3.6 will be put in the ubuntu repos?
[12:08] <ashrafbaha2> hi
[12:09] <nwillems> echo, well, but wouldn't it be nice to have support for the little fancy button :)
[12:09] <echo> nwillems, yeah :)
[12:09] <DJones> London90: It will possibly be in the repo's for Lucid, but normally the new versions aren't backdated into an older version of Ubuntu
[12:10] <London90> DJones: thanks for the info!
[12:10] <echo> i remembered another trouble.. ati radeon X2300 drivers ..
[12:10] <bullgard> Why does my Karmic-Synaptic not show the  DEB program package  »mlton«? Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:10] <scunizi> London90: there is a PPA on launchpad for that.. I'm running 8.04 and have it.  there are daily updates
[12:10] <consolecowboy> if anyone else uses google reader with firefox 3.6, do you notice that 'v' (to open a the story) doesn't work half the time?
[12:11] <nwillems> echo, btw how can I find the right keyboard vendor, model for my laptop?
[12:12] <heoa> how can you use Grep like Ack-Grep?
[12:12] <London90> scunizi: Great, I don't suppose you have the link or remember which site you got it from?
[12:12] <heoa> ie you see the file after each match
[12:13] <scunizi> London90: launchpad is the site.. I'll google.
[12:13] <echo> nwillems, not what you need..
[12:14] <scunizi> London90: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:14] <nwillems> echo, ??
[12:14] <echo> nwillems, google for kernel-patch for you notebook model
[12:14] <London90> scunizi: great, thanks!
[12:15] <pat|nG> how can i install flash player on my browser?
[12:15] <pat|nG> i can't play videos on youtube
[12:15] <nwillems> echo, on the keyboard issue or on the display problem?
[12:16] <scunizi> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:16] <setkeh`> did my last message make it ??
[12:16] <Cynix01> xbmc from apt-get crashes on start ? any bugfixes ?
[12:17] <MK1974> hi
[12:17] <echo> awk, official ati drivers not suppors old radeons.. and there are alternative drvers - radeonhd.. how to configure radeonhd drivers, because linux games are works normaly, but windows games works with very small fps
[12:17] <echo> ?
[12:18] <MK1974> my gnome-terminal won't start anymore.
[12:18] <hyperstream> Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied.  <--- -rwxrwxrwx 1 root dhcpd 1 2010-01-22 19:54 /var/run/dhcpd.pid <-- dmesg shows: [23945.100846] type=1503 audit(1264162555.029:37):  operation="open" pid=13719 parent=2687 profile="/usr/sbin/dhcpd3" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=116 ouid=0 name="/var/run/dhcpd.pid"
[12:18] <hyperstream> any idea;s on this issue ?
[12:18] <echo> nwillems, kernel problem
[12:18] <MK1974> uninstalled and installed again already. nothing helps
[12:18] <echo> nwillems, problem of unsupported..
[12:19] <MK1974> when starting terminal for half a second terminal pop up and closes automatically
[12:19] <setkeh`> i keep getting spat into a busy box shell on my ubuntu server install saying "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/hddhexadress does not exist" any ideas??
[12:19] <nwillems> echo, I haven't noticed any kernel problem on my laptop :P what you mean unsupported?
[12:19] <echo> nwillems, there are some patches for any Fn supporting
[12:20] <MK1974> anyone got an idea
[12:20] <MK1974> ?
[12:20] <echo> nwillems, any newest kernel just do not support Fn keys
[12:20] <llutz> setkeh`: compare uuid from alert with your actual ones, fix grub/fstab then
[12:20] <scunizi> setkeh`: sudo blkid .. make notes on the uuid's of the drives.. then sudo nano /etc/fstab and compare the previous uuid's with what is listed in fstab.. sounds like you have a drive/partition with an unrecognizable uuid
[12:20] <nwillems> echo, ahh that way. well, I had an idea that supporting Fn is similar to supporting "windows"-key
[12:21] <echo> :)
[12:22] <echo> upper i means only not very popular laptops and some unsupported keys, as wi-fi, brightness and some others
[12:22] <setkeh`> scunizi: is there any way of doing this from inside busybox because i cannot boot
[12:22] <echo> in most of laptops there are amazing ubuntu supporting for hardware
[12:22] <llutz> setkeh`: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[12:23] <scunizi> setkeh`: probably but I don't know busybox..
[12:23] <setkeh`> llutz: ty will give it a shot
[12:23] <nwillems> would like to have windows for the applications menu, and then windows-r for "run application dialog", actually my brightness and sound and the PgUp/Dn, Del, Home, End is working, only one i miss is SysRq. Cant do Ctrl+SysRq+BckSp
[12:23] <nwillems> even NumLock and scrolllock is working
[12:24] <mapa> lk
[12:24] <indus> nwillems, ctl sysrq-backspace? for what is that used
[12:24] <setkeh`> llutz: they are the same uuids fstab vs the error
[12:24] <llutz> setkeh`: grub?
[12:24] <nwillems> indus, restart X, ctrl+alt+bcksp is not supported anymore, read it on the forums
[12:25] <indus> nwillems, its alt sysrq K
[12:25] <scunizi> nwillems: try ctrl+sysrq+k
[12:25] <indus> no no
[12:25] <indus> ALT SYSRQ K
[12:25] <nwillems> indus, maybee thats why it didn't work :P
[12:25] <echo> and yet, how to configure radeonhd?
[12:25] <hyperstream> can selinux be causing this error how can i fix this?: Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid: Permission denied.  <--- -rwxrwxrwx 1 root dhcpd 1 2010-01-22 19:54 /var/run/dhcpd.pid <-- dmesg shows: [23945.100846] type=1503 audit(1264162555.029:37):  operation="open" pid=13719 parent=2687 profile="/usr/sbin/dhcpd3" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=116 ouid=0 name="/var/run/dhcpd.pid"
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> I thiough it was alt-ctrl-sysreq-k
[12:25] <nwillems> he he
[12:25] <setkeh`> llutz: it has the same uuid
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> I thiough it was alt-ctrl-sysreq-k-stand-on-your-head-sing-the-abc's
[12:26] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: :)
[12:26] <indus> !altsysrqk
[12:26] <llutz> Dr_Willis: missed -backwards
[12:26] <osirisx11> is there any protection or warning in ubuntu when attempting to do an rm -rf /?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  and --in-mandrin-chinese
[12:26] <jrib> osirisx11:
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> osirisx11:   no
[12:27] <jrib> osirisx11: yes
[12:27] <nwillems> My bad, sry guys :P
[12:27] <osirisx11> thanks for clearing that up!
[12:27] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m2b0add3c
[12:27] <setkeh`> all my uuids match but still no boot
[12:27] <jrib> osirisx11: see "--preserve-root" in « man rm »
[12:29] <setkeh`> now its starting wtf
[12:30] <llutz> voodoo
[12:31] <Younes> shit channel, even ubuntu's people are crap =)
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Demand a refund then Younes..
[12:33] <seme> hey whats up with launchpad today... says there is a gpg error for ppa.launchpad.net
[12:33] <seme> can't verify the pgp signature
[12:33] <XeroXer> Does anyone know why ddcprobe gives edidfail in 64 bit (ubuntu 9.10), worked great on 32 bit.
[12:34] <bullgard> Why does my Karmic-Synaptic not show the  DEB program package  »mlton«? Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:34] <mohamed> hi
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !find mlton
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> !info  mlton
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> !info mlton
[12:36] <michaeldobrovits> Hello, does anyone knows why ut3 through wine has sound issues, can those enviromental distortion can be fixed?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> I thought UT3 had a native linux client..  of course wine has some sound issues with pulse audio in many games.
[12:38] <michaeldobrovits> Dr_Willis: ut3 doesn't have a native linux client. i don't use pulse on my jaunty do you have any idea which lib is probably damaged or if there's any chance of overriding enviroment fx in wines registry?
[12:38] <bullgard> !info eclipse
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> michaeldobrovits:  no idea.  check teh wine app database
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> michaeldobrovits:  they may have some info on the sound issues.
[12:39] <nwillems> times leet
[12:39] <michaeldobrovits> k, thx/
[12:39] <michaeldobrovits> .
[12:40] <mazda01> sick of making coasters, gonna try to get a new dvd burner. want dvd-ram and dvd-dl burning capabilities. ne1 suggest brand? LG, Lite-On, Sony, What?
[12:41] <llutz> mazda01: all the same crap today
[12:42] <mazda01> huh? i know that certain burner's firmware can't burn certain generic media. which is why i am asking what burner (or company) have people had the most success with
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  i was thinking that also.. they dont make them like they used to.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  check the box/specs for one that does what you want. Ive seen many are just rebranded from the same company
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Sometimes you can find an identcial optical drive rebranded under a differnt company for better prices if ya find them on sale
[12:43] <llutz> mazda01: just buy one, use recommended media and hope it will work. times are gone whit significant differences in quality etc between burners
[12:43] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, i am merely asking if ne1 has had more success with LG over Lite-On or vice-versa etc etc etc
[12:44] <llutz> mazda01: maybe look that firmware-updates don't need windows (samsung-like)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  it all would be subjective Ive had optical drives from all those companies.. and had them all die befor.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  ages ago i tried to stay with lite-on - but as i said many other brands are actually lite-on rebranded
[12:45] <llutz> even plextor is crap since years :(
[12:45] <bullgard> Why does my Karmic-Synaptic not show the  DEB program package  »mlton«? Synaptic package manager > Settings > Repositories > Software Sources > Ubuntu Software > Community-maintained Open-Source software (universe) is asserted. '~$ apt-cache search mlton; mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML'
[12:46] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, next question, is sata or pata way to go. \
[12:46] <llutz> mazda01: sata, pata is dead
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  i see no reason to ever use pata if you dont need to
[12:46] <Yarcanox> "pycentral: pycentral rtinstall: package python-twisted-core: not overwriting local files"
[12:46] <Myrtti> bullgard: check that you don't have any filters or searches that prevent it from showing
[12:46] <Yarcanox> now what? apt-get fails to upgrade python2.5 during apt-get upgrade and will fail everytime I try to install anything else
[12:46] <Yarcanox> :<
[12:46] <Yarcanox> even -f doesn't help
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:48] <Yarcanox> Dr_Willis: same error
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> hit it with a hammer..
[12:48] <Yarcanox> it always attempts to upgrade that python thing first and then comes up with that error
[12:48] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, now fot the medium. verbatim, hp, phillips, sony, tdk? there are so many?
[12:48] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:49] <Yarcanox> Dr_Willis: the upgrade has security relevant bind (some exploit) and openssl (that negotation vulnerability) fixes
[12:49] <Yarcanox> and it's on a production server
[12:49] <virkang> Hi everyone
[12:49] <Yarcanox> >.>
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  flip a coin. :) i just buy whats on sale.. and i keep backups..
[12:49] <Yarcanox> that means I need those upgrades to be proceeded. and I don't care about python at all.
[12:49] <mazda01> do you guys use dvd+r or dvd-r for making dvd movies>
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Yarcanox:  you could remove the python pacaktge I guess.. but that may be a bad idea
[12:49] <Yarcanox> yea
[12:50] <Yarcanox> because a lot of things depend on it
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  most all the players i have now - can use either one.
[12:50] <Yarcanox> if anyone has an idea how to fix this, please tell me.
[12:50] <Yarcanox> maybe I just need to remove the "local files" it doesn't want to overwrite
[12:50] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, any doesn't say k3b, automatically mark a dvd+r with the dvd-r bit anyway so that it can be played in most dvd players?
[12:50] <Yarcanox> but as the output is so insanely verbose, I have no idea what to do from here
[12:51] <llutz> mazda01: most companies have lists of media you should use with a specific drive. use them
[12:51] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, that is the difference right? dvd+r is for data (computers) and dvd-r is for dvd players in the family room? i mean ages ago.
[12:51] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  i think it was more of a marketing thing. I seem to find +r on sale more then -r. i got an OLD laptop that can only read -r.
[12:52] <EsatYuce> I downloaded Stardict dictionary from official website. How can i install the application?
[12:52] <mazda01> llutz, i am going with a lite-on DH-24AAS and I don't see anywhere on the tigerdirect website that says what media to use. maybe i need to check manufactureers website?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  what was it exactly you downloaded? doestt the site give any install directions>
[12:53] <llutz> mazda01: old stand-alone dvd-player had some compatibility-problems with +r, so -R was preferred. shouldn't make any difference today
[12:53] <EsatYuce> it gave me the link and mirror
[12:53] <llutz> mazda01: manufacturers site should offer those lists
[12:53] <paulus68> what do I need to adapt in this script to make sure that the file last is empty after running this script? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2134c93f
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  and what EXACTLY was the pacakge/file type you downloaded?
[12:53] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  there are many folders and files in the directory
[12:54] <iflema> Yarcanox its reversible... sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /var/cache/apt/pkgcache-old.bin && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:54] <Yarcanox> http://pastebin.com/d5fc40e7d please help >.>
[12:54] <EsatYuce> the name is /stardict-3.0.0/
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> foobarwhatever.tar.gz ? or somthing?
[12:54] <Yarcanox> iflema: what exactly will that do?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> if its source code. you need to compile it EsatYuce
[12:54] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  it is .deb package
[12:54] <bullgard> Myrtti: I did not switch on any filters (at least not intentionally). I quit Synaptic and restarted it. Now Synaptic finds »mlton«. I have never experienced a similar bug before. --  Thank you for your help.
[12:55] <iflema> Yarcanox force a refresh of the package database and hopefully an upgade
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  why did you extract it then to a directroy?  'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  is the command to insstall them normalluy
[12:55] <EsatYuce> ok, i will try this command
[12:55] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[12:55] <llutz> paulus68: why not using "last skeleton" instead of grepping?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> actually if you double click on a .deb  - its supposed to install it.
[12:56] <Yarcanox> iflema: not helping at all
[12:56] <surf> how can I remove evm?
[12:56] <Yarcanox> >.>
[12:56] <Yarcanox> same error.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !info evm
[12:56] <Pici> Yarcanox: Can you pastebin the entire error you are getting?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> surf:  how did you install it?
[12:56] <Yarcanox> already did: http://pastebin.com/d5fc40e7d
[12:56] <Pici> Yarcanox: ty
[12:57] <storm1> hello guys
[12:57] <storm1> my login doesn't work any longer
[12:57] <surf> Dr_Willis, I dunno. Seems that removing evms solves my problem lookin at launchpad...
[12:57] <llutz> paulus68: "last -t" may help too
[12:57] <storm1> can someone assist pls?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  tell the channel what the ssytem is doing exactly. and where its not working at.
[12:57] <storm1> gdm starts, login works, but right after that i stand at the login mask again
[12:57] <paulus68> llutz: well didn't think of that but the question is how to empty the last file at the end of the script
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  so either X or the Desktop is crashing. it seems.
[12:58] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis,  what is the different between to download direct link and to use command line?
[12:58] <surf> Dr_Willis, could you please help me with this strange udevd --daemon occuping 100% of cpu?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  can you login to the console?
[12:58] <storm1> if i log into a console, kill gdm and run "startx" it works
[12:58] <Urda> question: what does Firefox 3.6 mean for the Persona add on?
[12:58] <llutz> paulus68: echo "" >lastfile
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  Huh?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  that is weird.
[12:59] <EsatYuce> Dr_Willis, why cant i install it while downloading direct link?
[12:59] <storm1> really :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> EsatYuce:  you download the .deb and install the .deb  tahts how it works. normall.
[12:59] <storm1> Dr_Willis: any idea, where to find some error msgs? it's a plain default installation with nothing special, only a few weeks old
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz: and this will result in a empty file afterwards?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> actually using a repo/pacakg3 manager is the normal way. :) downlaoding .deb from just diffrent sites.. is rather uncommon.
[13:00] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:00] <Urda> arg wrong tab. My bad ubuntu guys
[13:00] <llutz> paulus68: sure
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  as a test. try making a new user. see if it works for them.. if it does work for the new user. that would show its the old users settings somehow causing an issue
[13:00] <paulus68> llutz: thanks
[13:00] <llutz> paulus68: echo  -n >lastfile         better
[13:01] <lopan> Hey everyone.  I was in here yesterday getting help with a boot issue, where my box boots into BusyBox instead of X / Desktop.  I have detailed my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8702824  if anyone could help that would be super good. :)
[13:01] <paulus68> llutz: ok
[13:01] <storm1> Dr_Willis: that would mean loosing all my settings :(
[13:01] <storm1> Dr_Willis: bad luck, eh?
[13:01] <mazda01> llutz, many people still have the old stand alone dvd player so i'll get dvd-r just in case
[13:01] <llutz> paulus68: every redirection with single > will overwrite existing files
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  no it would not.. it would mean you ADDED a new user to test...  :) you could then perhaps figure out what setting is causing an issue..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  and remove/fix the setting
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  IF its a user setting..
[13:02] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:02] <storm1> Dr_Willis: ok. i'll give it a try. brb
[13:02] <paulus68> llutz: thanks for the info
[13:02] <llutz> mazda01: i never had that issue, but i'm watching video not very often
[13:03] <Wunderkind> does anyone know of a cli app that's good for streaming radio, ala quodlibet?
[13:04] <Yarcanox> Pici: do you have an idea what to do?
[13:04] <Pici> Yarcanox: I'm looking into it still.
[13:05] <jirib> hello guys
[13:05] <storm1> Dr_Willis: new user works fine
[13:06] <storm1> Dr_Willis: more ideas?
[13:06] <Pici> Yarcanox: Can you try   sudo apt-get install -f python-twisted-core
[13:06] <jirib> i've tried to follow Seamless virtualization document on help.ubuntu.com but i still get two titlebars for Internet Explorer :(
[13:06] <jirib> how to solve that?
[13:07] <Yarcanox> Pici: "python-twisted-core is already the newest version."
[13:07] <chilli0> I have 3 computers with ubuntu but they cant see eachother in network
[13:08] <Yarcanox> followed by the same error when it tries to process the half-installed python2.5 thing
[13:08] <chilli0> I can ping them all
[13:08] <chilli0> Sometimes i can see them
[13:08] <bouma> hello. ive waited it out. im wondering is now a safe time to upgrade (reinstall to another partition) to 9.10 ??
[13:08] <chilli0> I can see a windows computer
[13:08] <storm1> Dr_Willis: which settings may cause that issue? how to filter that out?
[13:09] <Pici> Yarcanox: Right.  How about   sudo dpkg-reconfigure python-twisted-core
[13:09] <bouma> is ext4 ok for the install?? (i wonder if google is using extents)
[13:10] <szymon> ??
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  no idea. I would start with disabling compiz -  it is often a problem
[13:10] <BooRadley> Pici: Yarcanox, maybe some hints here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/291262. This page also suggest the one can set "overwrite-local=1 in /etc/python/debian_config"
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> storm1:   I normally dont worry about too many settings. and i often just clean out all the gnome settings to get back to defaults.
[13:10] <storm1> Dr_Willis: maybe ...
[13:10] <storm1> Dr_Willis: mompl
[13:10] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> I forget how to reset gnome defaults properly
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> storm1:  its very weird that the startx thing dosent crash also.  I wonder what its doing differntly
[13:12] <Pici> Yarcanox, BooRadley: I was looking at http://www.nesono.com/node/246 which lists a similar problem for a different package, but removing python-twisted-core probably won't work because a lot of packages depend on it.  I need to run to a quick meeting, but I'll be back soon to continue looking into it.
[13:12] <storm1> Dr_Willis: ok. thx. my fault. wrong setting in .profile caused that issue. found out looking in xsession-errors. sorry for the time i've stolen ;)
[13:12] <storm1> bye @ all
[13:13] <Elaina> Hello
[13:13] <michaeldobrovits> surf: do you have external usb burner?
[13:13] <tomlee> when we check the menu item preference.there is a "%u" after the command,what does it mean?
[13:13] <surf> michaeldobrovits, no
[13:14] <oCean_> Yarcanox: have you tried editing /etc/python/debian.config ?
[13:14] <michaeldobrovits> surf: upgraded lately?
[13:15] <surf> michaeldobrovits, no. Fresh Karmic
[13:15] <kacper> klo lubi ubuntu
[13:15] <kacper> okpjv9g6yTpko>lVCG6 PYW P<Fvous<bdxc
[13:15] <Elaina> I have just installed Ubuntu, it boots correctly, but it does not recognize my wireless network. I have a WRT54G. I've searched but can't find any useful info. Any help?
[13:15] <Yarcanox> oCean_: what am I supposed to edit there?
[13:16] <paulus68> exit
[13:16] <kacper> UBuntu 9.10
[13:16] <silviu-alexandru> exit
[13:16] <surf> michaeldobrovits, I read some bug report but I do not have evms installed. That's strange. It seems that uninstalling evms solves ...
[13:16] <tomlee> when we check the menu item preference.there is a "%u" after the command,what does it mean?
[13:17] <tomlee> who knows about it?
[13:17] <oCean_> Yarcanox: the update process cannot "force" python-central to overwrite local files, Adding "overwrite-local=1" in /etc/python/debian.conf should force that. (at least, according to feedback in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/291262)
[13:17] <Oasa> hw to copy 2 strings in C , i want the strings to copy space also
[13:17] <Oasa> please help me
[13:17] <Elaina> Can anyone help with my wireless issue?
[13:17] <michaeldobrovits> sorry surf: cannot help
[13:17] <kacper> Who likes windows
[13:18] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:18] <l3ns> hi everyone
[13:18] <oCean_> kacper: this is ubuntu technical support. You're welcome to discuss other issues in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <ThinkPad> Hello , everyone!
[13:19] <l3ns> i wanted to change the reso of my monitor. i checked xrandr and it says the max is 1600x900, can I still use value 1600x1050?
[13:19] <danny_> anyone good at writing bash shell scripts? if so do you mind helping me with this script I wrote...
[13:19] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: you can try
[13:19] <l3ns> okay..
[13:20] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: if it doesn't work return to default
[13:20] <Elaina> Again, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10, and it does not recognize my wireless network. My router is a WRT54G Linksys router. Can anyone help?
[13:20] <kacper> Windows Top
[13:21] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, nothing happened after doing this: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1600x1050
[13:22] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:23] <EsatYuce> Can i instal Ubuntu OS into one External Hard Disk?
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: why you need this 1680x1050?
[13:24] <lobo_estepario> Hi guys
[13:24] <pat|nG> i accidentally close my panel plasma same as in windows the start button? how can i bring it back?
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: is this u'r native
[13:24] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:24] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:24] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, just wanted to have more height for my lcd monitor.
[13:25] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: xorg.conf modeline for 1680x1050 can work
[13:26] <EsatYuce> Can i instal Ubuntu OS into one External Hard Disk?
[13:26] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:26] <DJones> EsatYuce: You can install onto an external drive, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing on external or RAID hard disks specifically the Boot from USB drive
[13:26] <DjCreed> Âñåì ïðèâåò
[13:26] <pat|nG> i accidentally close my panel plasma same as in windows the start button? how can i bring it back?
[13:27] <EsatYuce> DJones, thanks
[13:27] <michaeldobrovits> does anyone knows why wine hogs my q9400 to 100% while running UT3?
[13:27] <DjCreed> Åñòü êòî ïî ðóññêè ðàçãîâàðèâàåò òóò? =)
[13:27] <DJones> !ru | DjCreed
[13:27] <lobo_estepario> I need some help, I'm not able to use numbers or special symbols from numeric keypad. This can be easily fixed using Keyboard preference tool or simply press Shift+Numlock. But i need to disable this feature with command.
[13:28] <lobo_estepario> But i need to disable this feature from console.
[13:28] <DjCreed> =(
[13:28] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, there is no modeline in my xorg.conf file
[13:29] <danny_> anyone with experience writing bash shell scripts?
[13:29] <DjCreed> Ëþäè ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:29] <Yarcanox> oCean_: helped, thanks
[13:29] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:29] <Pici> danny_: Have you tried in #bash  ?
[13:30] <chilli0> But its askin for a password. How can make ubuntu not need a password to view shared files ?
[13:30] <iflema> michaeldobrovits no idea.... windows games best played on windows... ubuntu has in the repos nexuiz and other fps games... try nexuiz
[13:31] <DjCreed> Ëþäè ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:31] <danny_> ya
[13:31] <Daugha|n> How do I optimize ubuntu for streaming media sites like zshare or novamov??
[13:31] <iflema> danny_ http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[13:31] <oCean_> Yarcanox: good to hear!
[13:31] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: did you tried display options or nvidia xserver propeties in settings?
[13:32] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: ^perferences?
[13:32] <llutz> danny_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[13:32] <surf> my udevd --daemon is always at 100%!!! Can someone help me out?
[13:32] <okay> hi. is there a download manager for ubuntu that lets you resume downloads?
[13:32] <DjCreed> Ðóññêîÿçû÷íûå ëþäè òóò åñòü? =))
[13:33] <danny_> thanks guys!
[13:34] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: what version of ubuntu u have and what kind of gpu?
[13:34] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, i don't see nvidia properties in preferences
[13:34] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, 8.04
[13:34] <enzotib> okay: wget -c
[13:34] <l3ns> u mean cpu?
[13:34] <AceKing> Does anyone know what would cause my desktop to black? I can't see any icons or the image that I had as a background. I can go into the destop folder and see what is on there. I am running Karmic 32 bit
[13:34] <okay> enzotib: thanks i try it
[13:34] <allguru> how can i record a video in ubunntu ?
[13:35] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: system perfernces screen resolution?
[13:35] <surf> if I run udevadm monitor -e I get tons of messages saying the same thing
[13:35] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, ah gpu, i use nvidia if that's why u meant..
[13:35] <DjCreed> Ëþäè êîòîðûå ðàçãîâàðèâàþò íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå, ñòóêíèòå â ïðèâàò, ïîìîùü íóæíà...
[13:35] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, yep i could see that but the max reso is only up to 1600x900
[13:35] <surf> hi guys. Ubuntu Karmic installed on a ASUS UL50 machine. I have a process: udevd --daemon which has 100% of cpu. Why? It freezes my pc 9 times out of 10!
[13:36] <Random832> !ru | DjCreed
[13:36] <Pici> DjCreed: This channel is english only. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat for other language channels.
[13:36] <raggiskula> Hi
[13:36] <DjCreed> =|[::Pici::]|=> thanks
[13:36] <raggiskula> Can anyone recommend a web based media player?
[13:37] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: what kind of gpu do you have?
[13:37] <chilli0> Anyone know how to map a network share ? ( Like on windows )
[13:37] <Elaina> I have just installed Ubuntu. It's a dual-boot, with Windows Vista. Anyway, it's installed and working perfectly... the only problem is that it detects no wireless networks. I got no prompts or anything. When I click the Network Manager I get nothing. My router is a WRT54G Linksys. It works fine with Vista, I've tried resetting it, but to no avail. Can anyone help? I've tried searching Google but I get nothing of much use.
[13:37] <Random832> DjCreed; you should also set your irc program to use UTF-8, not Windows-1251
[13:37] <l3ns> michaeldobrovits, nvidia..
[13:38] <ibuclaw> chilli0, what type of network shares?
[13:38] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: did you installed drivers for it?
[13:38] <ibuclaw> Elaina, what type of network card / device do you use?
[13:39] <tom_> Elaina, try to choose to connect to a hidden wireless network. Just enter the name of the network as SSID (e.g 'dlink'), and turn off any password protection on the router
[13:39] <l3ns> yep, currently using nvidia drivers,
[13:39] <michaeldobrovits> l3ns: come to private
[13:39] <lobo_estepario> I need some help, I'm not able to use numbers or special symbols from numeric keypad. This can be easily fixed using Keyboard preference tool or simply press Shift+Numlock. But i need to disable this feature with command.
[13:39] <Elaina> Do wireless routers even work with Ubuntu?
[13:40] <l3ns> Elaina, yep sure
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: Yes, of course.
[13:40] <ibuclaw> Elaina, routers aren't the issue. =)
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: It sounds like Ubuntu doesn't have the drivers for your wireless chipset.
[13:40] <skunkworks_> elaina: is your wireless card detected?
[13:40] <jpds> Elaina: Try running: sudo lshw -C network
[13:41] <Daugha|n> I have an external HD, if I reformat as ext4, will there be any issues auto-mounting the device?
[13:41] <ibuclaw> Daugha|n, there should be none.
[13:41] <tom_> Daugha|n, not in ubuntu, no
[13:41] <Daugha|n> ibuclaw: Thanks.
[13:41] <Daugha|n> tom_: Thanks as well. =)
[13:42] <iflema> danny_ http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.html.tar.gz
[13:42] <IpSe_DiXiT> Hi, i run intrepid ibex and the update manager gives me an error output when trying to update plus i get a "out-of-date-warning" so i guess i need to upgrade my repos, where can i find the right ones for 8.10?? maybe the ones i have are old links and now they've changed. thanks
[13:44] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, what happens when you "Check" for updates?
[13:44] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: i told u it fails giving me some repos output
[13:45] <chilli0> ibuclaw, Well I want to do what happens in windows when you map a network drive ( network share acts like a hard drive)
[13:45] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, usually, System->Administration->Software Sources
[13:45] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, you can choose which server to download updates from.
[13:45] <pshr> hello every one
[13:45] <pshr> i just re installed ubuntu
[13:46] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: i no, im asking which one or if there's a weblink on which there are the most recent ones
[13:46] <pshr> but while installation i thought i would convert the ntfs drive to ext4
[13:46] <pshr> and i see that all the data is gone
[13:46] <Barridus> anyone know if firefox 3.6 will be an upgrade to the 3.5 package, or be an entirely new package?
[13:46] <pshr> is there any way to get it back, I desperately need it. Any data recovery tools for linux
[13:46] <virkang> hi
[13:46] <ouyes> hi how to uninstall the wireless driver came with the distribution
[13:46] <ouyes> remember only the wireless
[13:47] <virkang> could someone telle me if there will be a pre-installed desktop backup solution in Lucid ?
[13:47] <ouyes> virkang,  what you mean exactly?
[13:47] <ouyes> virkang,  backup what?
[13:48] <virkang> ouyes - I mean that i heard there will be some backup solution like back in time, or other things, installed by default in Lucid, is that true ?
[13:49] <ibuclaw> IpSe_DiXiT, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:49] <ouyes> virkang,  sorry i do not know what are you talking about ,though i am now on Lucid A2
[13:49] <llutz> virkang: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:49] <indus> virkang, yes
[13:50] <indus> virkang, possible
[13:50] <IpSe_DiXiT> ibuclaw: thanks
[13:50]  * indus googles for a blueprint
[13:50] <ouyes> virkang, by the way ,do you know how to remove the wireless driver came with the distribution?
[13:51] <ibuclaw> chilli0, in Nautilus, I believe you can go to: File->Connect to Server, and enter in any info/credentials there.
[13:51] <ibuclaw> it should appear on your desktop, and via Computer and Network Places screen.
[13:51] <Barridus> anyone know if firefox 3.6 will be an upgrade to the 3.5 package, or be an entirely new package?
[13:52] <ibuclaw> chilli0, I am not too certain of a "reconnect everytime" option, it's been a while since I last used it.
[13:52] <virkang> ouyes, sorry i don't understand your question, what wireless driver ? for what card ? and why do you want to uninstall it ?
[13:52] <coz_> Barridus,  my guess an upgrade  but you can install it now
[13:52] <virkang> indus, Thx
[13:52] <ibuclaw> though you can set permanent share drives in /etc/fstab
[13:52] <virkang> llutz, thx
[13:53] <Barridus> coz_, you mean via the .deb on the firefox page?  i usually like to wait until things hit the official repos
[13:53] <Martitapowa> Hello
[13:53] <coz_> Barridus,  either the deb or a repository.... either way  ...I have used it and 3.5.6pre is fine here
[13:54] <Martitapowa> hay alguien español?
[13:54] <indus> virkang, hi look http://ubuntu10-04.blogspot.com/2009/11/ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-will-get-bakup.html
[13:54] <Daugha|n> !es | Martitapowa
[13:54] <Martitapowa> ok
[13:55] <Martitapowa> thank
[13:55] <Martitapowa> i have you got nothing no this
[13:55] <bilalakhtar> /
[13:56] <pat|nG> i check all box in window management...including the desktop cube animation desktop cube and all under window management but no effect? why?
[13:56] <kerwin_> hello can i ask for help?
[13:57] <Daugha|n> No.
[13:57] <gcorvala> hello, I have switched my resolution to a bad one and my display is now switched off, how can I change the resolution ?
[13:57] <virkang> indus, thx ! Do you know which of the 2 solutions will be in ?
[13:57] <joegardner> gcorvala: you have to edit the xorg file
[13:58] <DJones> !ask | kerwin_
[13:58] <ibuclaw> pat|nG, is compiz running?
[13:58] <indus> virkang, i think the restore should be but have to wait and see
[13:58] <ibuclaw> pat|nG, Press Alt+F2, and type in: compiz --replace
[13:58] <indus> virkang, i too read that link just now :)
[13:58] <ouyes> virkang,  wifi card ,also the wireless card driver, it came along with your installation, it was pack in the installation cd, when you install ubuntu, you also install the wireless card dirver, get any idea?
[13:59] <ouyes> virkang, i use the aptoncd to backup the package that i downloaded
[13:59] <kerwin_> thanks.. here goes. I have XP. and i want it dual boot with 9.10. now on installation, partition cannot detect any OS. it didnt happen on my previous XP-9.04 setup.  how to deal with this?
[13:59] <JF1976> hi all, im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[13:59] <gcorvala> joegardner, yes but with karmic, the xorg.conf is not mandatory
[13:59] <gcorvala> so where is the "default" resolution stored ?
[14:00] <ouyes> kerwin_,  open a terminal then sudo update-grub
[14:00] <joegardner> Cybertinus: isnt't it in xorg?
[14:00] <pshr> !datarecovery
[14:00] <ouyes> kerwin_,  see if it can find the xp
[14:00] <joegardner> gcorvala: isnt't it in xorg?
[14:00] <gcorvala> is there another xorg.conf file somewhere ?
[14:00] <JF1976> kerwin_, try using the livecd to check all is fine, and if so you can use qtparted to make changes to your partition
[14:00] <ikonia> gcorvala: there should only be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:00] <gcorvala> joegardner, not in /etc/X11/
[14:01] <gcorvala> ikonia, not on karmic & lucid
[14:01] <ikonia> gcorvala: yes onkamric and lucid
[14:01] <ikonia> gcorvala: there doesn't have to be a file as xorg is dynamic now, it should only be created for forcing options
[14:01] <ouyes> kerwin_, if it can not you can edit the grub.conf(i forget the name ,but in 8.04 it is menu.lst) mannully add the xp option
[14:02] <gcorvala> ikonia, ok, should I mention every section in this xorg.conf ?
[14:02] <jozi> hey ppl
[14:02] <ikonia> gcorvala: only what you need
[14:02] <gcorvala> or just what I need to configure
[14:02] <ouyes> kerwin_,  any advance?
[14:02] <ikonia> gcorvala: it's all dynamic, just hard code in the sections you need
[14:02] <jozi> any hot gals in here
[14:02] <ouyes> ouyes, ah mate are you in xp now?
[14:02] <pat|nG> ibuclaw: i do pressed alt f2 nothing happns
[14:02] <kerwin_> ouyes: it can't find the XP. JF1976: yes, but even qparted cannot detect any OS. its telling me that 9.10 will overwrite all the HDD once i push through with the installation
[14:03] <ikonia> jozi: this channel is for ubuntu support only, please keep tot hat topic
[14:03] <gcorvala> ikonia, so if I just add the xorg.conf in /etc/X11, xserver-xorg will load it automatically
[14:03] <ikonia> gcorvala: correct, if it exists, it parses it
[14:03] <jozi> fuck u ikonia
[14:03] <ouyes> kerwin_,  hei, are you using the guided partionning?
[14:04] <kerwin_> ouyes: theres no option or guided partitioning.. ONLY "use all 80 gig HDD" or manual partitioning
[14:04] <ouyes> kerwin_, try to make the partition youself
[14:05] <ouyes> kerwin_,  use the manual, if you want keep your xp
[14:05] <JF1976> kerwin_, reboot into the xp system and run a disk check making sure that you do a clean shutdown, then have another go with the livecd
[14:05] <virkang> ouyes, for your wireless driver, in the command line, do a lsmod, then search for something that sounds like a wireless driver, and do a modprobe -r <modulename> to remove it from you running desktop
[14:05] <JF1976> hi all, im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[14:06] <ouyes> virkang,  i want to remove the driver pernamently
[14:06] <ouyes> virkang,  not to unload the mode
[14:06] <Cynix01> i have problems with xbmc 9.11
[14:06] <Cynix01> anyone can help me ?
[14:07] <ouyes> virkang, your way is a solution, also to  make a blacklist is even better, but the driver is still there
[14:07] <ouyes> kerwin_,  how things are going?
[14:08] <kerwin_> i still have my 9.04. but grub does not appear after my reinstallation of XP.
[14:08] <virkang> ok, so remove simply the module name in the /lib/modules directory
[14:08] <JF1976> kerwin_, if you install XP after Ubuntu the XP is going to remove grub, use recover from a livecd
[14:09] <kerwin_> ouyes: im xp now ;D
[14:09] <virkang> ouyes, ok, so remove simply the module name in the /lib/modules directory
[14:09] <virkang> indus, thx for the information
[14:09] <kerwin_> JF1976.. how can i do that?
[14:09] <JF1976> kerwin_, how did you install Ubuntu 9.10 wubi of cd
[14:09] <virkang> ouyes, it should be safer to rename it
[14:10] <kerwin_> i used a USB pen drive
[14:10] <virkang> ouyes, it should be safer to move it somewhere else
[14:10] <troopperi> Cynix01: ask you question?
[14:10] <JF1976> kerwin_, do you still have the pen drive ?
[14:10] <kerwin_> yup!
[14:10] <kerwin_> but only 9.10
[14:10] <ouyes> kerwin_, you can use a command ( i forget) to list all the partitions and mount point, then find out which is the xp located, then go to the menu.lst(the file name in your Lucid is different, try to search under /boot/grub) add the xp option
[14:11] <JF1976> kerwin_, and when you boot it what options does it give? or does it boot into a live session
[14:11] <kerwin_> ouyes: im kinda an idiot regarding commands
[14:11] <kerwin_> hehehe
[14:12] <kerwin_> JF: try ubuntu, install ubuntu, etc etc..
[14:12] <ouyes> virkang,  ok mate thanks for your advice , i want to remove the whole wireless care driver, not to disable it
[14:12] <pat|nG> anyone?
[14:12] <pat|nG> i can't do 3D desktop
[14:12] <ouyes> kerwin_,  ok reboot to ubuntu , il direct you
[14:12] <pat|nG> i'm using kubuntu i joined #kubuntu no one is there hope someone from here can help me out
[14:13] <okay> hi. is there a way to open a download with gwget from a website that requires that i enter the code displayed on the screen to download? when i download without gwget and enter code, it just pops up a download dialogue and the url is the same on the browser.
[14:13] <kerwin_> ok ill get another laptop
[14:13] <ouyes> ouyes,  ah you have two
[14:13] <JF1976> kerwin_, thats fine, we all start somewhere...  all you need to do it fix grub, but thats were im different than you as i would use the command line, so wait one moment and i'll see if a can find you a nice web page with some answers
[14:13] <kerwin_> thanks JF!
[14:14] <virkang> ouyes, if you remove the driver from the /lib/modules directory, it will be gone !
[14:14] <ouyes> virkang, but some files will be still there
[14:14] <JF1976> kerwin_, what you need to do is boot into ubuntu from your pen drive the chroot into the hdd installation followed by a grub-install("hd0") but you will need more info than that!
[14:15] <virkang> ouyes, what files for example ?
[14:16] <ouyes> virkang, frankly speaking,  i do not know i have not tried but i guess so ,
[14:16] <JF1976> kerwin_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:16] <ouyes> JF1976,  is that the situation, he installed xp later?
[14:17] <JF1976> kerwin_, thats about as best as i can do.. However if the installation is new, then it may be better for you to install Ubuntu again as that might be easier for you
[14:17] <kerwin_> yup
[14:17] <morrowyn> yellow
[14:17] <JF1976> kerwin_, but the time you take now will assist you later ;) its called learning
[14:17] <kerwin_> the prob is the installer of 9.10 cannot detect any OS
[14:17] <kerwin_> yup hehehe
[14:18] <JF1976> ouyes, yes from the comments made the XP installation has removed the grub loader
[14:18] <cba123> My Firefox isn't working well with Java all of the sudden.  I tried removing and reinstalling java, then java worked and flash didn't, reinstalled flash, and flash worked, but now no java again.  Any ideas?
[14:18] <JF1976> ouyes, im not new but im on guru either ;)
[14:18] <ouyes> JF1976, kerwin_ , always try to manually partition the hdd, and also install xp first
[14:18] <morrowyn> i have a ubuntu server box (9.04) and i want to create a virtual machine server from it, so i can install ms windows server 2008 on it, what vm tool should i use, since all has to be done from the command line
[14:18] <utente> ciao+
[14:18] <Ruge> Hi folks, having a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install
[14:19] <Ruge> I have no control over the audio
[14:19] <scunizi> morrowyn: virtualbox will install using cli and run headless
[14:19] <JF1976> yes XP MUST be first for first timers... XP dont like to share with anything and assumes it should do as it please to your MBR
[14:19] <Ruge> The volume control does nothing (its a constant volume) and inserting headphones speakers does nothing
[14:19] <virkang> ouyes, as far as I know (I'm probably not the man who knows more here), but if you remove the file I told you to remove, adn all his dependencies (listes in lsmod), I think this is it
[14:19] <morrowyn> cool, didn;t know that, thanks
[14:19] <JF1976> im in the middle of a Ubuntu 9.10 remaster using remastersys and after removal of orca and rebooting the automatic login fails and wont allow logons using the account? i have used recovery to check the account and all is fine, but whats the best way to fix this issue.. thanks
[14:20] <troopperi> Ruge: what is your soundcard? And type terminal aplay -L and aplay -l and pastebin it and send link here
[14:20] <kerwin_> yup ive installed XP first, only thing is XP got screwed up.. so i have to reisntall it... into one partition
[14:21] <virkang> ouyes, there is no "clean" way to uninstall a driver like in windows (where you have a remove program for drivers you installed yourself)
[14:21] <scunizi> kerwin_: do you need xp for games or less demanding stuff?
[14:21] <kerwin_> so the partition for 9.04 is still there but inacessible
[14:21] <kerwin_> scinizi: hehehe i just use xp for photoshop
[14:21] <virkang> ouyes, in my opinion, this is something that is missing in Ubuntu, and Linux in general : a driver management framework
[14:22] <arand> kerwin_: so you just want to get the grub menu again for 9.04/XP?
[14:22] <KaffeeJunky123> why dosn't keyboard layout switching work on ubuntu 9.04?
[14:22] <scunizi> kerwin_: why not run it in a vm inside of Ubuntu .. that way you won't have to boot to one.. then boot to the other?
[14:22] <ouyes> kerwin_, if that is the case, you installed xp later, the grub will lost,  you can just insert the live cd(any installation cd will do) and run a shell, or open the livecd's terminal and simply run
[14:22] <kerwin_> arand: yes! if its possible
[14:22] <ouyes> kerwin_, sudo update-grub
[14:22] <chilli0> How con  I mount a network share ?... I tryed a tut on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba. But i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3a25f8d
[14:22] <arand> kerwin_: which liveCD version?
[14:22] <Ruge> trooperi: here you go - http://pastebin.org/80317
[14:22] <ouyes> virkang,  you see a lot ,
[14:23] <arand> ouyes: that won't write to mbr..
[14:23] <morrowyn> scunizi : http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-3.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-9.04-server found this linky :-)
[14:23] <protojay> help! my xfce menu bars at the top and bottom of my desktop have disappeared! how do i get them back?
[14:23] <kerwin_> arand: the one that is present in my hdd is 9.04, but my installer (pen drive) is 9.10
[14:23] <Ruge> fixed it :D
[14:23] <ouyes> arand,  open the shell mount the / of the hdd
[14:24] <scunizi> morrowyn: hooraah! another google user! should be pretty easy to do.. just make sure that you use vbox from their site not our repos
[14:24] <troopperi> Ruge: have you checked sound at system->preferences->sound, does test volumes work?
[14:24] <ouyes> arand, and edit the menu.lst, manually add the xp option after go into the liveCD
[14:24] <Ruge> trooperi: yeah im playing aroudn with the settings, found it
[14:25] <Ruge> troopperi: basically my IBM has internal speakers... some audio is playing thru it... cant stop it for some reason (but headphones okay now)
[14:25] <nastas> hi all
[14:25] <arand> ouyes: kerwin_: But you are able too bot XP now but not 9.04?
[14:25] <ouyes> arand,  i am quite familiar with this thing, i even make a note for that
[14:25] <kerwin_> ouyes: yep!
[14:26] <ouyes> virkang, a driver management framework, this point is good idea for expert  level user
[14:26] <troopperi> Ruge: do you have googled that IBM model and ubuntu sound
[14:26] <protojay>  help! my xfce menu bars at the top and bottom of my desktop have disappeared! how do i get them back?????????
[14:26] <JF1976> kerwin_, boot the system using your pen drive and do what ouyes is saying "drop to a shell" but i think that you would be better off having a read of the link i provided https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:26] <Ruge> troopperi: i'll do that in a bit (for now this fix will be fine)
[14:27] <arand> kerwin_: ouyes: So What I wold do: Downgrade the liveCD-version of grub to grub-legacy " sudo aptitude install grub ", then run the grub-legacy shell...
[14:27] <troopperi> Ruge: okay :)
[14:27] <kerwin_> anyway... I think ive got two options. first, reinstate the GRUB so i can choose between XP and my old 9.04. -OR- fresh install of 9.10 (but 9.10 cannot see any os upon installation)
[14:27] <Guest92362> hola
[14:27] <kerwin_> ok thanks guys, im still downloading MIRC in another laptop ;D
[14:27] <soreau> protojay: Is xfce4-panel running?
[14:27] <JF1976> kerwin_, have a good read im sure you can do it!
[14:28] <arand> kerwin_: is 9.10 unable to see any partitions in the installer?
[14:28] <kerwin_> arand: yes,,,unable
[14:28] <ouyes> arand,  just one cd and  one command line then reboot, everything will be done, JF1976  kerwin_  we should stop here leave kerwin_  to try it out
[14:28] <JF1976> kerwin_, and if your worried about data loss use the pen drive and an extra HDD to make a backup of your home directory
[14:28] <protojay> soreau, thx, why woud it stop running ?
[14:29] <arand> kerwin_: are you using any raid setup on this computer?
[14:29] <soreau> protojay: No idea
[14:29] <JF1976> good question!
[14:29] <arand> ouyes: but you intend to instruct installing grub2? Which command?
[14:30] <JF1976> kerwin_, while you still in XP use device manager to view your disks
[14:30] <gcorvala> I have writed a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:30] <gcorvala> but when I do a "startx", it seems that the config is not loaded
[14:30] <kerwin_> arand: Raid?
[14:30] <kerwin_> ok
[14:30] <gcorvala> it keep the "default" configuration set by xorg
[14:30] <okay> hi. is there a way to open a download with gwget from a website that requires that i enter the code displayed on the screen to download? when i download without gwget and enter code, it just pops up a download dialogue and the url is the same on the browser.
[14:30] <Cynix01> anyone knows how i bugfix the crash on xbmc ubuntu 9.10 (karmic)
[14:31] <Cynix01> ??
[14:31] <j2daosh> so, i have ubuntu installed on a flash drive. I have been using it for diagnostics and such so i have added programs to it, removed programs from it, yada yada. It gives me the option to install at the boot screen, but i just tried and it didn't and i dont have the option anywhere. Is there an installer package somewhere so i can get it going on my laptop?
[14:31] <gcorvala> is there a way to directly interact with the "dynamic" xorg configuration ?
[14:31] <arand> kerwin_: two harddisks set up in combination (striping/mirroring or so)?
[14:31] <MaT-dg1> is it possible to cap the speed of copying files?
[14:31] <kerwin_> JF: what will I find?
[14:31] <scunizi> okay: there's gotta be a different site offering the same file without all the hoops to jump through.
[14:31] <ouyes> arand, kerwin_  oh god help me , one is sudo update-grub,one is sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:32] <ouyes> arand, kerwin_  got it?
[14:32] <acicula> MaT-dg1: i dont think so?
[14:32] <kerwin_> arand: my set up is 80HDD... 40 in drive C: 40 in drive d: , the rest in 9.04
[14:32] <JF1976> kerwin_, its been along time since i went near windows, so you will need to have a look about but within the device manager there is going to be a disk viewer
[14:32] <arand> ouyes: Yea, but that would install grub2, which I intended to avoid..
[14:32] <j2daosh> kerwin_: right click "my computer" on the desktop, go to ' manage', click disk manager
[14:33] <JF1976> thats it
[14:33] <arand> ouyes: also, editing grub.cfg is not recommended...
[14:33] <ouyes> arand,  ah , i see grub2,
[14:33] <gcorvala> xrandr return me always the resolution used by my display ( bad resolution ) but no way to change it :(
[14:33] <chilli0> How con  I mount a network share ?... I tryed a tut on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba. But i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3a25f8d
[14:34] <okay> doesnt look like it..its a bunch of drivers for this laptop i just formatted. this site has all drivers in one file, others have 40 seperate links for each driver
[14:34] <arand> ouyes: 9.04>> grub-legacy, Hence I intended to just reinstate that to mbr..
[14:34] <ouyes> arand,  but that is my practical method
[14:34] <scunizi> okay: sounds like they are windows drivers right?  have you booted the live cd? if so does the system work?
[14:35] <bonno> whats the best way to run an old windows game on ubuntu? VMWare?
[14:35] <bonno> I just wanna play c&c generals lol
[14:35] <scunizi> bonno: vmware and vbox etc assume you have a licensed copy of windows to install
[14:35] <cba123> MaT-dg1, What are you trying to do?  As in why do you need to cap the file copy speed?
[14:35] <arand> kerwin_: if you only have one HDisk, then I guess you don't have raid.. I've seen a bug where removing the "dmraid" package will make the installer able to se the partitons again..
[14:35] <bonno> yeah I do
[14:35] <remoteCTRL2> how can i reachn irc admin here? i am trying to join #debian...
[14:35] <kerwin_> JF: C: NTFS, then unknown partition then unknown partition then D: NTFS
[14:35] <scunizi> bonno: then virtuabox
[14:36] <kerwin_> arand: only one HDisk
[14:36] <okay> scunizi: the sytem works, i reinstalled xp on it but i need drivers to use various hardware or improve performance
[14:36] <cba123> bonno, Cadega (or wine with a little tweaking) would be your best bet.
[14:36] <bonno> never heard of vbox. VMWare is refferenced quite extensivly
[14:36] <bonno> oh ok, heard of wine too... not Cadega tho
[14:36] <ouyes> arand, maybe your way is some kind better, but my way is also ok and most importantly i have tried already and it worked perfectly, so we should stop here and leave kerwin_  to try , you see this is a piece of cake and he is not in a hurry and really a newbie
[14:36] <bonno> I shall research these things :D
[14:37] <adac> How to add an user to the group admin?
[14:37] <adac> command line
[14:37] <okay> have a shit wifi connect that keeps disconnecting so i wanna use gwget so i can resume but it only uses urls
[14:37] <kerwin_> okay... thanks hold on
[14:37] <cba123> bonno, Cadega isn't free, but it's pretty much a tweaked version of wine, that auto-configs and everything
[14:37] <cba123> bonno, cedega*
[14:37] <bonno> oh ok
[14:37] <JF1976> then it sound like you may have been using raid possibly and your going to need to know the answer to most questions asked from now on.. did you have a recent backup ?
[14:37] <soreau> ! pm | troopperi
[14:37] <MaT-dg1> cba123: my laptop has a slow 4200/min HDD. Whenever I copy files from one place to another the whole system slows down. Compiz stutters, apps not responding and slow,...
[14:37] <bonno> thanks cba123, I might look into this vbox thing
[14:37] <kerwin_> JF: yup!
[14:38] <scunizi> okay: and you're using ubuntu to download the drivers?  that's ironic :) .. why use gwget? do you not have a gui?
[14:38] <chilli0> How con  I mount a network share ?... I tryed a tut on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba. But i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3a25f8d
[14:38] <cba123> bonno, vbox is really unlikely to play C&C Generals at any speed you'd want
[14:38] <cba123> bonno, Unless they have come really far with the virtual-3d card
[14:39] <bonno> oh ok... so you think maybe wine or vmware are the best free options I should explore?
[14:39] <bonno> or am I trying to do something that is not possible
[14:39] <cba123> bonno, No VMWare either
[14:39] <scunizi> cba123: bonno you'd be supprised.. lots of improvements lately.. does c&c need the 3d card option for that game?  I'm doubtful
[14:39] <diddy> Anybody know any player that can play Intel Indeo 5 file on Ubuntu 9.10 64bit?
[14:39] <diddy> Is there still no solution for this?
[14:40] <ouyes> virkang,  hei, you are still here?
[14:40] <bonno> so... maybe wine is the best?
[14:40] <okay> scunizi: i need resume function
[14:40] <arand> ouyes: yea, most likely the matter of method won't matter, but the problem from there is that he'll be unable to update grub from the 9.04 install since he has the grub-legacy packages installed there still... Might be albe to install "grub-pc" (i.e. grub2) in 9.04 to take care of that, but then it's equally compicated in my opin...?
[14:40] <bonno> just trying to save myself some time :P
[14:40] <okay> keep disconnecting
[14:41] <cba123> scunizi, It does need a 3D card, generals started 3D http://tinyurl.com/yewdwfj, if it was red alert 2 no 3d needed.
[14:41] <scunizi> okay: wow.. that's a tough one.. maybe someone else can download and make a torrent for it for you to download.
[14:42] <ouyes> arand,  just leave it a while
[14:42] <cba123> bonno, You should try installing playonlinux too.  Wine can be a little tricky to configure to play games, I'd seriously suggest cedega.
[14:43] <scunizi> cba123: ah.. guess it really depends on the 3d progress vbox has made.. only one way to find out :)
[14:43] <bonno> thankyou people, you've given me a lot to go on
[14:43] <ouyes> virkang,  hei can you give more detail on how to remove the driver ? there directory you give /lib/mo..  is not the final path
[14:44] <redace> hello
[14:44] <andy-laptop> how can i change encoding options in unzip?
[14:45] <andy-laptop> i want to change it to cp949
[14:45] <gcorvala> nobody can help me to reset my xorg resolution ?
[14:45] <virkang> ouyes, what is the name of you module ?
[14:46] <Devil> How Can I install latex in ubuntu ?
[14:46] <Devil> it is not in rep
[14:46] <ouyes> virkang,  i am not quite sure ,but i get the name mac80211              209163  20 ath9k,ath9k_common,ath5k,at76c50x_usb,mac80211_
[14:46] <soreau> ouyes: Removing the module from the system isnt going to do anything more than unloading/blacklisting it. Why do you have to remove it from the system so badly?
[14:46] <Taroven> Anyone here use the Razer Naga at all? Mine doesn't seem to agree with Ubuntu.
[14:47] <pat|nG> i can't watch video in youtube
[14:47] <pat|nG> anyone?
[14:47] <ikonia> pat|nG: installed flash ?
[14:47] <ikonia> !flash > pat|nG
[14:47] <soreau> ! flash | pat|nG
[14:48] <ouyes> virkang,  i want to use another driver, when i installed, i found that the system was using the old one
[14:48] <scunizi> Devil: install lyx
[14:48] <ouyes> soreau,  i want to use another driver, when i installed, i found that the system was using the old one
[14:48] <kerwin_> hey guys.. im chattin in another laptop
[14:48] <Reboot90> C-[ qualche italiano_
[14:48] <DJones> !it > Reboot90
[14:48] <soreau> ouyes: Why do you want to use this other driver? Is there something wrong with the one provided with ubuntu?
[14:48] <Devil> scunizi : TNX
[14:49] <ouyes> soreau,  no it is just ok, but i have some testing so i want to use another one
[14:49] <kerwin_> ouyes: my other laptop is on the installation of 9.10... step 4 of 6 says This computer has no operating systems on it
[14:49] <arand> kerwin_: ok, are you booted into the liveCD?
[14:50] <kerwin_> arand: im inside the 9.10 live session
[14:50] <ouyes> kerwin_,  how can? are you sure you installed xp first?
[14:50] <kerwin_> maybe i should reinstall XP again... using all the HDD
[14:50] <arand> kerwin_: you could try doing "sudo aptitude remove dmraid" in a terminal, then recheck if the installer detects correctly
[14:51] <andy-laptop> i got music
[14:51] <swiftarrow> Devil
[14:51] <swiftarrow> Devil, you still there?
[14:51] <okay> scunizi: thanks anyway
[14:52] <ouyes> kerwin_,  what do you plan to do ?
[14:52] <kerwin_> ouyes: well i love very much to install 9.10...
[14:52] <ouyes> kerwin_,  perhaps, you should backup all your data first
[14:52] <swiftarrow> Devil, best way to install latex is to download the latest TeXLive DVD image, and follow the instructions on WikiBooks.  That way you get an up-to-date version.  the one in the repos is a little behind.
[14:52] <kerwin_> ouyes: yup all backed up
[14:53] <kerwin_> arand: still cant detect OS
[14:53] <ouyes> kerwin_,  oh, then you can install it by manually partition
[14:53] <soreau> ouyes: Well you really do not want to remove driver modules from the system. Instead, simply unload a module with rmmod or add it to the module blacklist in /etc to have it never load automatically
[14:53] <ascheel> When you save an ftp bookmark and choose to keep the login information, where is that login information kept?
[14:54] <kerwin_> ouyes: yes... but it will use the whole 80gig HDD
[14:54] <sdwrage> Morning all
[14:54] <ouyes> soreau,  but in fact i do not know which is the wireless module
[14:54] <soreau> ouyes: What is the output of lspci|grep -i ethernet ?
[14:54] <arand> kerwin_: if you check the partiton editor from the system>>admin menu does that show the partitons?
[14:55] <ouyes> kerwin_,  no i said chose to manually partition
[14:55] <ouyes> soreau,  the wireless card
[14:56] <kerwin_> arand: NO, unallocated
[14:56] <soreau> ouyes: The whole point is to show the output
[14:56] <kerwin_> ouyes: yes, but it only shows one SDA
[14:56] <ouyes> soreau,  ok mate  lspci|grep -i ethernet
[14:56] <ouyes> soreau, 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
[14:57] <arand> kerwin_: ok, then there's something else at work here, apart from the issue I know of...
[14:58] <kerwin_> arand: you're referring to what i see in Gparted right?
[14:58] <soreau> ouyes: That looks like your ethernet (wired) device. Is that the only output?
[14:58] <ouyes> kerwin_,  since you have all the data backup, you can delete all the partitions and create new for ubuntu / swap and home basically
[14:58] <arand> kerwin_: yes, it is empty as well right?
[14:58] <kerwin_> ouyes: but i need XP for photoshop
[14:59] <virkang> ouyes, try modinfo at76c50x_usb
[14:59] <virkang> it will show you the path of that module
[14:59] <ouyes> soreau,  yes mate
[14:59] <ouyes> kerwin_,  which step are you in now ?
[14:59] <scunizi> kerwin_: ouyes back to that.. do a full install of ubuntu and install xp in vbox.. it'll run photoshop there just fine AND you can do it in "seemless" mode so it looks native
[14:59] <virkang> ouyes, I think this is this one, is your wireless card plugged by usb ?
[14:59] <soreau> ouyes: Alright, pastebin the complete output of lspci to pastebin.com
[15:00] <ouyes> virkang,  nope
[15:00] <kerwin_> scunizi: but im just using a laptop, i cant use up much memory and resources
[15:00] <ouyes> soreau,  ok
[15:00] <scunizi> kerwin_: how much memory do you have in that
[15:01] <kerwin_> 2 gig
[15:01] <scunizi> kerwin_: that's a bunch.. shouldn't be a problem
[15:01] <kerwin_> scunizi: im also needing it for flash too and premiere
[15:01] <arand> kerwin_: ok, if the installer or partition editor didn't work after removing the dmraid package the I don't know how to get the 9.10 install working. We could go through getting 9.04 up and booting though, alongside XP..
[15:01] <scunizi> kerwin_: nevermind..
[15:02] <kerwin_> arand: yep thats plan no 2
[15:02] <virkang> ouyes, what is your wireless card ?
[15:02] <ouyes> virkang, soreau  thanks anyway http://pastebin.com/d20bced41
[15:03] <electro> hola
[15:03] <electro> anda ya
[15:03] <ouyes> soreau,  maybe you can give kerwin_  more details or a link about how to install vbox and xp in vbox and run ps, also i am interested
[15:04] <ouyes> virkang,  intel 5100 agn
[15:04] <Glaucous> I have a problem with Wine and .NET 3.0 (and above). - I have winetricks, I install it with "sh winetricks dotnet30", it extracts and then I get the error "Extraction Failed - Unable to find a volume for extraction. Please verify that you have proper permissions.". This shouldn't happen when using winetricks, according to like every forum.
[15:04] <ouyes> virkang,  you see the pastebin
[15:05] <virkang> ouyes, could you do the same with the lsmod output ?
[15:05] <ouyes> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[15:05] <genii> Glaucous: You might find the #winehq channel more helpful in this matter
[15:05] <virkang> ouyes, yes, that is your wireless card
[15:05] <Glaucous> Thank you genii. :)
[15:06] <arand> kerwin_: ok, first, "sudo aptitude install grub" This will remove grub-pc (which is grub2) and install the older grub version (which is what 9.04 uses) just in the liveCD environment.
[15:06] <ouyes> virkang,  it is there
[15:06] <soreau> ouyes: So you have an Intel 5100 AGN and the module is likely iwlagn
[15:06] <soreau> ouyes: Does lsmod|grep iwlagn show this module?
[15:07] <kerwin_> arand: take note im in live session of 9.10
[15:07] <ouyes> virkang,  it is a lot of lines and i chose one day so it wont waste much space for a long time
[15:07] <arand> kerwin_: Yes, that is why we need to "downgrade" to the older grub to match it with the version of 9.04 before starting to recover.
[15:07] <troopperi> protojay: did you get panels work=
[15:08] <ascheel> Is there a way to add a login/password to the gnome-keyring from the CLI?
[15:08] <ouyes> soreau,  go to see http://pastebin.com/d35b87145 again
[15:08] <kerwin_> arandokay hold on
[15:08] <ouyes> soreau,  i add the lsmod output
[15:09] <virkang> ouyes, type modinfo iwlagn
[15:09] <soreau> ouyes: So iwlagn is loaded, which is the right module. Which other driver are you wanting to try?
[15:09] <ouyes> virkang,  it is a lot of mass
[15:10] <jelly-bean> HOW do i skip formatting during install?
[15:10] <virkang> yes, but the beginning of the output tells you the path to the module
[15:10] <jelly-bean> its a virtual hdd that doesn't need to be formatted
[15:10] <viajante> where can I get medibuntu public key, the one on the script to install it doesn't seem to work
[15:10] <virkang> ouyes, yes, but the beginning of the output tells you the path to the module
[15:10] <ouyes> kerwin_,  are you still there and any advance?
[15:11] <mikebeecham> hi guys..>I'm trying to run spotify under wine.  I can search for tracks, etc...but when I double-click on the track nothing happens...any ideas?
[15:11] <virkang> ouyes, if you still want to remove it, move the file to your home, but lik I said, you can blacklist that module
[15:11] <kerwin_> arand: done
[15:11] <kerwin_> arand: what to do next?
[15:11] <ZykoticK9> Glaucous, if you're still around -- it get the exact same error with winetricks & dotnet3
[15:12] <arand> kerwin_: ok, then run "sudo grub" which will get you to the grub console
[15:12] <ZykoticK9> Glaucous, s/it/i
[15:12] <kerwin_> arand: ok
[15:12] <arand> kerwin_: here first use "find /boot/grub/stage1" In you case it should give somthing like "(hd0,1)" I think.
[15:12] <bonno> lol I ran C&C generals with wine and it changed my resolution etc. I alt+tab out of it and now I cant find c&c generals... any ideas? lol
[15:12] <ouyes> virkang, soreau  i am worn out at this matter forget it ,
[15:13] <viajante> btw anyone can tell me if hp mini has bluetooth?
[15:13] <galleta> hola
[15:13] <virkang> ouyes, by moving it to your home directory, you can still restore it
[15:13] <kerwin_> HDO,5
[15:13] <galleta> que hablas
[15:13] <arand> kerwin_: then use whatever you got there in the command "root (hd0,5)"
[15:13] <huff3r> ci
[15:13] <soreau> ouyes: The bottom line is, if its already working, dont mess with it. You will only make it worse and probably not able to work at all
[15:14] <Enigmator> I'd like to defrag some file on my partition, is it possible to defrag files using a ramfs as the secondary partition since I dont have any other ext3 partition?
[15:14] <ouyes> virkang, soreau   thanks for your try
[15:14] <tonyyarusso> Enigmator: What do you mean by defrag a file?
[15:14] <kerwin_> arand: i typed "root (hd0,5)"
[15:14] <soreau> virkang: Telling people to move modules is bad advice. There is never a reason to do that as blacklisting it is plenty enough
[15:14] <arand> kerwin_: Good and then "setup (hd0)"
[15:14] <ouyes> soreau,  but something really worth a try though facing a risk of damage
[15:14] <mt_> how do I prevent the ~file to be created? or how do I delete them all with one command from /home?
[15:15] <soreau> ouyes: IMHO, it is not worth a try
[15:15] <virkang> soreau, i know that, I told him, but he absolutely wanted to remove it
[15:15] <Enigmator> I mean just doing some defragmentation
[15:15] <soreau> virkang: He doesnt understand why he shouldnt do that
[15:15] <tonyyarusso> mt_: the command to delete them would be 'rm ~*'
[15:15] <arand> kerwin_: this will recover the mbr for grub, making it point to the grub you have installed on the ubuntu partition (hd0.5) in grub-terminology
[15:15] <tonyyarusso> Enigmator: You defragment filesystems, not files.
[15:15] <ZykoticK9> Enigmator, defrag is more a windows thing - it's not really an issue with EXT file systems
[15:15] <virkang> soreau, ok, next time I won't
[15:15] <mt_> tonyyarusso, this will only remove the ~* in the current dir
[15:16] <tonyyarusso> mt_: correct
[15:16] <mt_> I want to remove all everywhere in /home
[15:16] <tonyyarusso> mt_: then you would use 'find' with -exec
[15:16] <kerwin_> it says "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hdo)1+17 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2/boot/grub/menu.lst"...failed Error 12L invalid device requested
[15:16] <mt_> tonyyarusso, give me the full command please, I don't know -exec
[15:16] <ouyes> soreau, IMHO, you seem to know what i am trying, but as a matter of fact, i want it that way.  so leave my idea alone, do not persuade people to do something you think is right and wise
[15:16] <kerwin_> is it ok?
[15:16] <Enigmator> well Im at 4.3 fragmentation and I can see some slow down
[15:17] <tonyyarusso> mt_: I'd have to check the man page for the exact syntax also.
[15:17] <mt_> tonyyarusso, man exec or man find?
[15:17] <tonyyarusso> mt_: man find
[15:17] <soreau> ouyes: Actually, that is what this channel is all about. We would rather not help people break their systems even if they think they can make it better somehow :)
[15:17] <mt_> tonyyarusso, thanks
[15:17] <arand> kerwin_: Hmm, I'm not sure there, is that all it says?
[15:18] <kerwin_> yup
[15:18] <kerwin_> i better restart
[15:18] <om26er> !test
[15:18] <arand> kerwin_: no, hang on
[15:18] <mikebeecham> hi guys..>I'm trying to run spotify under wine.  I can search for tracks, etc...but when I double-click on the track nothing happens...any ideas?
[15:19] <rrittenhouse> is there a way to tell what type of drive is in a machine from the command prompt? (SCSI, IDE, SATA, etc)
[15:19] <arand> kerwin_: I'll have a look just to make sure here...
[15:19] <ouyes> soreau,  but how do you know it , no damage, no rebuildings. i think this channel is to try to help people with ubuntu issues in their way they like it, we are free to do anything we like
[15:20] <Oli``> My QT4 fonts are messed up Serif and Sans Serif both look really blocky. This is limited to QT4 (QT3 is fine).... I assume there's some corruption in a font-cache somewhere... How do I clear it?
[15:20] <LjL> ouyes: we're also free not to give advice we don't really like giving.
[15:20] <genii> rrittenhouse: sudo lshw -C storage
[15:20] <ouyes> soreau,  even at the risk of great damage
[15:20] <soreau> ouyes: You are free to take a hammer to you computer too, though I strongly suggest you do not
[15:20] <colin_> what does the -C flag do
[15:20] <colin_> ???
[15:21] <luk1106> siemanko
[15:21] <kerwin_> 9.10 is sure eyecandy
[15:21] <ikonia> colin_: in respect to what ?
[15:21] <Enigmator> tonyyaru I can assure you that it is possible to defragment files individually, test it using the command filefrag to see the fragment of any file then move it to another linux partition then back and see with filefrag
[15:21] <genii> colin_: On the lshw command it selects a Class of devices to list
[15:21] <luk1106> mówi ktoś tu po polsku
[15:21] <colin_> oh nice
[15:21] <corecode> so what's the problem with karmic/flash/pulseaudio?  I'm not getting sound reliably
[15:21] <ikonia> !pl > luk1106
[15:21] <acicula> !pl
[15:21] <soreau> ouyes: We try to help people better understand how to use their system with ubuntu correctly rather than help them break it because that is just bad advice
[15:21] <colin_> genii_: thanks
[15:21] <FabioTheApe> can someone help me, when i boot my computer instead of getting a splash screen I get "input not supported" how can i get my splash screen back?
[15:21] <ouyes> soreau, LjL ,ok can we just stop here, otherwise it will arise a ...
[15:22] <ikonia> FeiRuoWa: what did you do to break it
[15:22] <arand> kerwin_: hrm, it might be the whole partitiions-not found playing in here again... making it unable to find it...
[15:22] <eremite> how do I install the aurora theme engine in Karmic??  I geet getting errors in my terminal and on my appearance preferences.  Where do I get it?  Its not in the repos, but many other engines are.
[15:22] <onagro> ro
[15:22] <Enigmator> but I only have other ntfs partition that why I'm asking if anyone know if we could do it with a temporary ramfs
[15:22] <kerwin_> arand: i better reinstall my XP first... u think?
[15:23] <tobiasz> where can I get help regarding PIDGIN constantly crashing after trying to send/recieve message? GFIRE protocol plugin
[15:23] <kerwin_> arand: i mean start from scartch?
[15:23] <FeiRuoWa> ikonia, what did i do to break which?
[15:23] <FabioTheApe> I didn't break it, I installed Ubuntu and the first time i booted it it did such problem
[15:23] <onetinsoldier> eremite: did you download an aurora.deb and install it? if so, what was the version number of it?
[15:23] <ouyes> soreau,  someone wants that way even at the risk of breaking down, i make my point for three times, that is also a kind of correctly use---the way the owner wanted
[15:23] <ikonia> FeiRuoWa: sorry - that was for FabioTheApe
[15:23] <ikonia> FeiRuoWa: then why did you say get your splash screen back, suggesting you had it
[15:24] <scala> hello all
[15:24] <FabioTheApe> ikonia, i have to guess that the splash screen is set to the wron resolution
[15:24] <FabioTheApe> well it worked on the live disc
[15:24] <FabioTheApe> sorry
[15:24] <ikonia> FabioTheApe: a reasonable guess, try the "vga=ask" option to set different resolutions
[15:24] <FeiRuoWa> ohhhh, ok. i killed a partition two days ago, and was wondering how you knew :P
[15:24] <eremite> onetinsoldier,  I have not downloaded the aurora engine yet.  That's exactly why I asked where I can download the engine from.  I installed a theme from gnome-look.org and it didnt have the engine with it.
[15:24] <ikonia> FeiRuoWa: I am everywhere ;)
[15:25] <FeiRuoWa> ;p
[15:25] <FabioTheApe> ikonia, I need more detail then that, I am not very good with the config files
[15:25] <arand_> kerwin_: sorry, disconnect. But no, I don't think reinstalling Xp would help at this stage..
[15:25] <ikonia> FabioTheApe: you need to inerupt the grub boot process with "e" then add "vga=ask" as a boot option
[15:25] <onetinsoldier> eremite: ok, use a search engine to search for the following file(if you're running 64-bit) --> aurora_1.5-1_amd64.deb
[15:26] <eremite> onetinsoldier, dont tell people to use a search engine here.  Also, I am not running a 64bit machine.
[15:26] <FabioTheApe> ikonia, there is no easier way like checking the config file to see if it has the proper resolution?
[15:26] <eremite> !google
[15:26] <onetinsoldier> eremite: what's wrong with asking people to use a search engine?
[15:26] <ikonia> FabioTheApe: how can you change the config if you can't boot ?
[15:26] <eremite> !google ubottu
[15:26] <FabioTheApe> ikonia, I can boot
[15:27] <eremite> !google
[15:27] <kerwin_> arand: yup but thats okay, it wouldnt take 2 hours
[15:27] <ikonia> FabioTheApe: add vga=ask to the grub config then
[15:27] <FabioTheApe> it just goes from grub, to input not supported, then login screen
[15:27] <ouyes> soreau,  by the way , what i am trying is nice and good for me and also doing absolutely no damage to others, so what is the matter so importantly to figure out a way that instruct me in the correct way to use ubuntu .
[15:27] <Wipster> hi all, I'm trying to customise the ubuntu live cd to incorperate the loop-aes module, which means I need to recompile the kernel and put it in, I am trying to follow the customise guide on help but I am getting stuck and confused. Anyone able to lend a bit of a hand?
[15:27] <FabioTheApe> ikonia, so how do i do that?
[15:28] <ikonia> FabioTheApe: edit the grub config file and add "vga=ask" to the end of the boot line
[15:28] <soreau> ouyes: What is troubling to me is why you want to use a different driver then what is the correct one for your card. AFAIK, the only native linux driver you can use is iwlagn which is already in use.
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> eremite: try this one, it might be 32-bit --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438
[15:29] <ouyes> soreau,  ubuntu is free not just the fee but the way people try to use it and try to do something to it all on his own
[15:29] <arand> kerwin_: Are you able to get hold of any 9.04 version boot disk ubuntu? Using that hopefully the grub restore would work better..
[15:29] <ikonia> ouyes: soreau maybe take the end of this conversation to pm ?
[15:29] <luk1106> oj
[15:29] <viajante> btw anyone can tell me if hp mini has bluetooth?
[15:29] <ikonia> viajante: look on the hp website
[15:29] <viajante> where can I get medibuntu public key, the one on the script to install it doesn't seem to work
[15:29] <MauritianGuy> Wipster,  someone will have the answer soon lol
[15:30] <viajante> ikoni i did, and cant tell
[15:30] <ikonia> viajante: contact the people who support mediabuntu on their website
[15:30] <ikonia> viajante: then contact hp
[15:30] <viajante> i did on #medibuntu
[15:30] <ouyes> soreau,  sorry mate , i am not on purpose , il go with mine. get some rest
[15:30] <ikonia> viajante: ok so wait for them to respond
[15:30] <Wipster> MauritianGuy, I am just compiling the kernel for the second time.... hope they get back to me before I mess this one up too ahhhh :)
[15:30] <kerwin_> arand: im downloading it...
[15:31] <viajante> ikonia, they did, but response was unclarified
[15:31] <ikonia> viajante: then clarify with them - they support it
[15:31] <gotsanity> is it normal for npviewer.bin (adobe flash) to remain loaded (and waking my cpu 26% of the time) even when im not viewing a flash webpage?
[15:31] <MauritianGuy> i would have help if i knew how Wipster
[15:31] <acicula> gotsanity: unfortunatly yeah
[15:31] <viajante> what does iirc stands for?
[15:31] <rrittenhouse> genii, thx for the cmd earlier. Worked perfectly :)
[15:31] <MauritianGuy> viajante,  Internet relay chat
[15:32] <ikonia> viajante: no idea
[15:32] <llutz> viajante: if i recall correct
[15:32] <gotsanity> acicula, is there anyway to reduce the amount of polling it does? its doing a number on my battery
[15:32] <viajante> so, unswear was strange, on ·medibuntu
[15:32] <ouyes> soreau,  i remember you , you helped me a lot and also others
[15:32] <corecode> anybody else having problems of firefox not responding at times?
[15:32] <acicula> gotsanity: you can just kill the process, the browser will reload it when you need too
[15:32] <viajante> they said:  apt-get install medibuntu-keyring iirc
[15:32] <ikonia> viajante: contact THEM
[15:32] <acicula> gotsanity: at least thats what i do
[15:32] <ikonia> viajante: they are the ones who support it
[15:33] <viajante> ikonia, they seem to be sleeping
[15:33] <ikonia> viajante: wait for them to respond
[15:33] <viajante> ok
[15:33] <eremite> onetinsoldier, I found it elsewhere, but thanks for your time anyway.  I also get another error in my terminal when opening some apps.  I just opened "comix" and this is what I get" ** (comix:32656): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[15:33] <gotsanity> acicula, will it cause a problem if im currently viewing a flash page? (im assuming it would)
[15:33] <viajante> ikonia, are u a girl?
[15:33] <eremite> Does anyone know what this means?:: ** (comix:32656): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[15:33] <ikonia> viajante: does that matter ?
[15:33] <ikonia> eremite: in respect to what ?
[15:33] <viajante> u sound like one, and, no it doesnt
[15:33] <acicula> gotsanity: it will kill flash yeah
[15:33] <viajante> :D
[15:33] <eremite> Opening apps in my terminal.
[15:34] <eremite> I get an error that says:: CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[15:34] <ikonia> eremite: that's unusual
[15:34] <eremite> I know.
[15:34] <ikonia> eremite: normally a font related issue
[15:34] <queso> Will there be a firefox-3.6 package for Jaunty?
[15:34] <MauritianGuy> flv or swf acicula
[15:34] <ikonia> queso: not as of yet
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> eremite: do the apps run ok? for instance, i get some warning messages/errors when i start up gvim in a terminal, but gvim works fine. i ignore the errors, because, they're just warnings, not critical errors
[15:34] <Myrtti> no
[15:34] <FabioTheApe> grub is making me want to kill myself
[15:34] <viajante> whats the best choice of dev apps for an inventory sytem based on clowd computing
[15:34] <kerwin_> arand: if i get finish the 9.04 installer, what would be my next step?
[15:35] <eremite> onetinsoldier, if I didnt use a terminal I wouldnt know the  errors existed.
[15:35] <ikonia> viajante: dev apps aren't for could computeing
[15:35] <queso> ikonia: Sorry, I meant to ask: Is it planned?
[15:35] <ikonia> queso: not as of yet
[15:35] <queso> ikonia: okay, thx
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> eremite: roger
[15:35] <viajante> why not, cant we dev an app for it?
[15:36] <arand> kerwin_: boot the liveCD and do the steps we just did with the grub prompt, this time you won't have to do the initial "aptitude install grub" though, since the version is already the correct one...
[15:36] <ikonia> viajante: you can develop an application for it, but that has no relevence on cloud computing as that's handled by the OS
[15:36] <kerwin_> okay
[15:36] <presumida_> ayall please a quickie, i got the common dirs of a distro /dev, /usr, /etc, and so on. How can i mount them like a real system ? like proc, tempfs, and stuff?
[15:36] <arand> kerwin_: you might have bettter luck should you choose to upgrade the 9.04 to 9.10 without doing a fresh install using a CD..
[15:36] <viajante> ikonia, if the os is installed on a clowd server, it may
[15:37] <ikonia> viajante: no it doesn't
[15:37] <ikonia> viajante: you'd develop the app the same as you would if it was not on cloud coputing
[15:37] <acicula> presumida_: using mount? what are you trying to achieve?
[15:37] <nullp0inter> when my desktop idles for a while or the screensaver pops up, and i move anything to get ou tof it, firefox completely locks up..anyone see that before?
[15:37] <viajante> ikonia, you are right
[15:37] <presumida_> acicula: i got a gentoo stage1 , and i'm trying to mount it os-like
[15:38] <eremite> nullp0inter,  I had a similar problem>  When my screensaver and/or power saver started it would lock the screen black, and I would have to hard restart.
[15:38] <acicula> presumida_: i dont understand, can you rephrase
[15:38] <viajante> ikonia, so lets say you would use linux and you needed a database, would you use mysql or gApps?
[15:38] <presumida_> i mean, i got a untarred dir with /dev,/etc, and stuff, and i want it to get mounted chrooted as /, /proc with a proc filesystem, /tmp and /var as temp filsystems, and so acicula
[15:39] <kerwin_> arand: yup.. but some say its always better to have a fresh install (its faster)
[15:39] <JHPryke> Hey, i was woundering if anyone can help me. Ive just bought a 32" tv and i am running my computer from it, im using ubuntu 9.10. When i run World Of Warcraft through wine an error message comes up about my graphics, i have a 9 series nvidia card with a 1gb memory so i dont think its a card issue, any ideas?
[15:39] <ikonia> viajante: what I would use doesn't matter, it's what you use that fits your needs and applications
[15:39] <eremite> JHPryke, what is the error message?
[15:39] <acicula> presumida_: you are trying to install gentoo?
[15:40] <jamie74> Hello folks, I was wondering if someone could advise me on getting my SLI configuration right, I can't seem to do it?
[15:40] <Wipster> I have a sneaking suspicion that I have fumbled while trying to make this livecd modification again :/
[15:40] <viajante> ikonia, so how do you know what to choose?
[15:40] <ikonia> viajante: research
[15:40] <viajante> ikonia, thats a big word
[15:40] <presumida_> acicula: you type mount and you get : sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) , and the same with different types of mount with usr, tmp, var, etc, opt, and so
[15:40] <reactor> ikonia, phys?
[15:40] <acicula> viajante: 1) define goals, 2)define a measurement, 3) find solution that falls within goals and metrics
[15:40] <BluesKaj> JHPryke, need more specific info about the error message
[15:41] <ikonia> reactor: ?
[15:41] <MauritianGuy> JHPryke,  i came accross the same problem u will have to download a beta version of the driver and convert the file to executable and run it from its directory from terminal as sudo
[15:41] <tobiasz> where are pidgin's settings stored in ubuntu
[15:41] <arand> kerwin_: yea, a fresh install makes it possible to use the ext4 filesystem instead, true, but the difference shouldn't be huge though...
[15:41] <reactor> ikonia, phys research?
[15:41] <presumida_> i want to mount that dirs like filesystems and with their correct filesystem. but i dont know how to mount a dir
[15:41] <wild_oscar> just curious: will Firefox 3.6 be in karmic's repositories?
[15:41] <ikonia> reactor: no, I was talking to viajante and telling him to research applications
[15:41] <acicula> presumida_: man mount, look for bind
[15:41] <ikonia> wild_oscar: not planned as of yet
[15:41] <nullp0inter> anyone know of any new bug reports with firefox locking up? i found a bunch of old ones..but my system is up to date
[15:41] <presumida_> i did acicula
[15:41] <tweaksource73> presumida_, man mount
[15:41] <presumida_> yeah tweaksource73
[15:41] <presumida_> i read about bind
[15:41] <acicula> presumida_: also if you are installing gentoo maybe you should try #gentoo, they have a bit more experience there
[15:41] <acicula> (with gentoo)
[15:42] <reactor> ikonia, oh soz just mixed up :P
[15:42] <viajante> acicula, thx :-)
[15:42] <ikonia> reactor: not a problem
[15:42] <wild_oscar> ikonia: bummer
[15:42] <presumida_> they won't help me on that chan, stage1 isn't officially supported by gentoo
[15:42] <ikonia> presumida_: then we can't help you here
[15:42] <viajante> ikonia, that clue is also a good start
[15:42] <ikonia> presumida_: this channel is for ubuntu only
[15:42] <jamie74> Hello folks, I was wondering if someone could advise me on getting my SLI configuration right?
[15:42] <presumida_> i didn't ask about gentoo
[15:42] <presumida_> i may ask the same about ubuntu
[15:42] <ikonia> presumida_: apologies I thought this was for a gentoo install
[15:42] <llutz> presumida_: you want to read about bind-mount and chroot
[15:42] <presumida_> lets say that dirs are ubuntu ones, any *nix o-s shares the same fhs
[15:42] <MauritianGuy> SLI for linus
[15:43] <ikonia> jamie74: sli on linux is bad
[15:43] <ikonia> jamie74: but very usable
[15:43] <MauritianGuy> i mean its too powerful why u need that kind of graphic card
[15:43] <ibuclaw> ikonia, not really - you just need to specify the BusID of the primary card.
[15:43] <ikonia> presumida_: are they ubuntu ones ?
[15:43] <viajante> question: is it worty to change from wubi to regular ubuntu? why?
[15:43] <ikonia> ibuclaw: really, my experience and reading is that the support is poor ?
[15:44] <tobiasz> synaptic is worthless
[15:44] <ikonia> viajante: personal belief yes, but it's up to you
[15:44] <eremite> viajante, things work better, smoother and you have full controll over the entire PC,
[15:44] <tweaksource73> viajante, wubi is jacked
[15:44] <viajante> ikonia, çi didnt had a flash drive...
[15:44] <tobiasz> it handless dependancies in a shitty way
[15:44] <ikonia> tobiasz: please control your language
[15:44] <tobiasz> but you know I am right
[15:44] <user0303> :)
[15:44] <jamie74> Well, I'm having all kinds of trouble just getting the latest nvidia driver to install
[15:44] <ikonia> tobiasz: I just asked you to control your lanuage
[15:44] <viajante> tweaksource73, what do you mean?
[15:44] <tobiasz> synaptic is soooooo bugged in 9.10
[15:44] <presumida_> yyeah ikonia and llutz i did read about them, but im not sure that is what i want, i dont want em mounted as ubuntu mountpoints, but as completely appart of it, let's say i got one ubuntu and i got an empty partition, and i want to install another ubuntu on it with the standar dirs of my other ubuntu install
[15:45] <ikonia> tobiasz: don't use it then
[15:45] <ikonia> tobiasz: or log a bug
[15:45] <MauritianGuy> jamie74,  what driver model do u have
[15:45] <tobiasz> ikonia synaptic is bug
[15:45] <ikonia> presumida_: then you just copy the directoryies over and install grub
[15:45] <viajante> eremite, what control dont I have with wubi?
[15:45] <ikonia> tobiasz: don't use it then, ranting in here is not welcome
[15:45] <presumida_> and it will work?
[15:45] <user0303>  the latest nvidia driver  was what took down all my X-windows :)
[15:45] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: you should have been around with Opensuse about 3-4 years ago. THAT was bad dependency handling
[15:45] <MauritianGuy> its better to get it from Nvidia itself or if its XFX get it from their website they will provide Beta version
[15:45] <ikonia> presumida_: work fine, a common way to change disks
[15:45] <jamie74> mauritianguy i'm trying to install 190.53
[15:45] <Trek> user0303: you tried rolling back your nvidia drivers one version>
[15:45] <ikonia> nevans: use the modules in the repositories
[15:45] <user0303>  the latest nvidia driver  was what took down all my X-windows :)  on (SuSe)
[15:46] <MauritianGuy> 190.53 is the model?!!
[15:46] <user0303> XF86config editing to no avail
[15:46] <ikonia> MauritianGuy: they are kernel modules (drivers)
[15:46] <tobiasz> purging pidgin doesn't remove configuration files
[15:46] <jamie74> i can't even get it to install because i can't seem to stop x-server, i get a scrambled screen everytime i try to stop it prior to driver install
[15:46] <presumida_> ok ikonia , let's say in that partition i make a / with gparted of type ext4.
[15:46] <nevans> ikonia, methinks you tab completed the wrong nick? :)
[15:46] <ikonia> tobiasz: empathy is default in 9.10
[15:47] <MauritianGuy> i c
[15:47] <ikonia> nevans: apologies
[15:47] <nullp0inter> how do i find out the version of ubuntu i am running
[15:47] <nullp0inter> its not in about
[15:47] <ikonia> nevans: lsb-release -a
[15:47] <presumida_> ikonia: then i mount it on my ubuntu
[15:47] <ibuclaw> jamie74, you are trying to install the latest drivers from the website?
[15:47] <tweaksource73> nullp0inter, cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <ikonia> presumida_: you don't need to mount them, - you just boot off the second disk
[15:47] <tobiasz> ikonia but empathy is so poor it shouldn't replace pidgin
[15:47] <user0303> what is the strategy for giving out device names on ubuntu? my usb ports keep changing and now I cannot mount /dev/sdf1-6 at all
[15:47] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: the ones in your home folder? nor it should...
[15:48] <ikonia> tobiasz: ok, use pidgin then
[15:48] <jamie74> ibuclaw: yes, i believe the version is 190.53
[15:48] <user0303> they are not called sdf anymore and mount or fdisk -l does not render any solutions
[15:48] <presumida_> ikonia: and then simply paste /dev, /etc and so , grub-install it and will work?
[15:48] <eremite> nullp0inter, in terminal type :      cat /etc/issue
[15:48] <tobiasz> wild_oscar I thought purge should remove configuration files and it is what differs it from regular removing
[15:48] <tobiasz> wild_oscar it should
[15:48] <acicula> tobiasz: what files were left behind?
[15:48] <llutz> user0303: use labels or uuids to mount, not device-names
[15:48] <presumida_> ikonia: what do you mean by bootoff the second disk?
[15:48] <ibuclaw> jamie74, you'll need to uninstall everything NviDIA before you do that.
[15:48] <user0303> thanks llutz
[15:48] <tobiasz> ~/.purple
[15:49] <presumida_> ikonia: i need to mount and paste first the filesystem in there right?
[15:49] <ikonia> presumida_: dev is created on boot time so you don't need to copy that, /etc will be copied across from your earlier copy, you'll need to then change /etc on your target system to reference the new disk dievices
[15:49] <tobiasz> acicula ~/.purple
[15:49] <acicula> tobiasz: well those are user files, those never get purged afaik
[15:49] <ikonia> presumida_: no - just copy the directorys to the new disk
[15:49] <matalo> heya all. I run a ubuntu-server 9.10 slice which needs to remain up and reliable, i don't have time to fix it. I need a package from multiverse. If i change my sources am i likely to hit any issue?
[15:49] <llutz> tobiasz: personal files never will be deleted
[15:49] <tobiasz> llutz that's bullcrap
[15:49] <jamie74> ibuclaw: nvidia's site instructs to terminate GDM before installing, is this necessary?
[15:49] <Wipster> bah humbug, I think my livecd modification is messed again :/ I'm using module assistant in chroot to install loop-aes to my custom kernel, is that ok? Its failing with no headers specified...
[15:49] <presumida_> ikonia: yeah that's it ok
[15:49] <ibuclaw> jamie74, NViDIA doesn't like having multiple versions of itself installed.
[15:50] <presumida_> ikonia: many thanks :)
[15:50] <tobiasz> llutz pidgin kept crashing for me with gfire, and I couldn't fix it by simply reinstalling
[15:50] <nullp0inter> eremite: ty
[15:50] <ibuclaw> jamie74, that is correct.
[15:50] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: files from your home folder are user specific
[15:50] <presumida_> oh, but ikonia one more quetion
[15:50] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: purge removes system configuration files, not user config files
[15:50] <pshr> does any one know how to get disk partition information like that of cylinder head and sector
[15:50] <presumida_> if i do it that way, the special dirs won't get mounted as they are supposed to
[15:50] <jamie74> ibuclaw: that is my problem, i can't seem to properly stop GDM, everytime i try my screen just scrambles and I have to either reboot or go back to graphical
[15:50] <presumida_> ikonia:
[15:50] <llutz> tobiasz: you're using a multi-user OS, so stop whining
[15:51] <ikonia> presumida_: what special dirs ?
[15:51] <ikonia> presumida_: what exactly are you trying to do
[15:51] <iceroot> pshr: sudo fdisk -l
[15:51] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: otherwise how would it handle when you have more than one user?
[15:51] <jamie74> ibuclaw so i shouldn't actually have any nvidia driver installed yet
[15:51] <presumida_> the ones that need a special type of mount ikonia
[15:51] <ibuclaw> jamie74, do you get the same scrambled screen when you boot into recovery mode ?
[15:51] <viajante> eremite, what control dont I have with wubi?
[15:51] <ikonia> presumida_: such as ?
[15:51] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: I deleted pidgin i my machine and I'd delete your configuration files too, because we happen to share the same OS?
[15:51] <jamie74> ibuclaw no, recovery is clean
[15:52] <presumida_> ikonia: for example, proc, sys, var, tmp,...
[15:52] <ikonia> presumida_: they don't need special options
[15:52] <pshr> thanks iceroot
[15:52] <wild_oscar> tobiasz: btw, whining about something and saying it's crap or it doesn't work just because you don't understand it is not a good policy
[15:52] <presumida_> ikonia: sys needs to be mounted as sysfs, proc as proc, var and tmp as tempfs
[15:52] <ikonia> presumida_: and why do you want to mount them, when you boot of the new disk they will get automounted
[15:52] <iceroot> pshr: np
[15:53] <presumida_> ikonia: without anything more than pasting them in the new partition and installing grub on it?
[15:53] <ikonia> presumida_: I've told you what to do
[15:53] <wild_oscar> that would be fun, though, deleting all the other user's files just by removing a piece of software
[15:53] <presumida_> ikonia: yeah, to put the necessary dirs and install grub
[15:53] <ikonia> presumida_: copy the fiel systems to the new disk, update /etc/fstab on the new disk, install grub on the new disk, and boot the new disk
[15:53] <ibuclaw> jamie74, for installing nvidia drivers manually - this is something I wrote a while ago. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1125400
[15:54] <presumida_> ikonia: ok, so i will
[15:54] <eremite> viajante: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bugs
[15:54] <llutz> wild_oscar: my users would be very happy  ... :(
[15:54] <ibuclaw> jamie74, I can walk you through it loosely for your particular instance.
[15:54] <neothecat> this subject has been beaten to death, but has anybody got netbeans to run decently?  the UI is incredibly unresponsive.  i am using Sun Java 1.6 with 64 bit karmac
[15:54] <presumida_> ikonia: thanx for your time, if i see you l8r i'll let you know how it's going :P many thanks again
[15:55] <ikonia> presumida_: welcome
[15:55] <rambo3> is there a fast way to add a new sudo user ?
[15:55] <ikonia> rambo3: add a user to the admin group
[15:55] <ibuclaw> rambo3, sudo usermod -a -G admin <username>
[15:55] <jamie74> ibuclaw ok, let me read over your post and i'll give it another try, i can always come back if that doesn't work
[15:56] <erUSUL> rambo3: add it to the admin group
[15:56] <rambo3> thanks
[15:56] <erUSUL> rambo3: sudo adduser $USER admin
[15:56] <ibuclaw> jamie74, rather than "sudo service gdm stop", try rebooting into recovery mode and install the driver via the root terminal.
[15:56] <ibuclaw> jamie74, you will get a warning, but it should be harmless.
[15:57] <jamie74> ibuclaw: what kind of warning?
[15:57] <ibuclaw> jamie74, that you are in init 1 mode
[15:57] <Wipster> can anyone lend a hand with doing modifications to the ubuntu 9.10 livecd, just an overview would help I can try and hunt out the commands. I think I'm approaching it tottaly wrong
[15:57] <ibuclaw> jamie74, runlevel 1, even.
[15:58] <ibuclaw> jamie74, nvidia recommend that you install the driver in runlevel 3, as some services required for detection/whatnot may not be running.
[15:58] <Duder> hi guys, im trying to run install bitlbee, when i run ./configure i get the error "Could not find a suitable SLL library"
[15:58] <ibuclaw> jamie74, I've done it quite a few times, and generally find it a non-issue.
[15:59] <jamie74> ibuclaw yes, i've seen that warning before, i've ignored it, but the install fails right after that because the installer complains about X-server running
[15:59] <oberdada> Hello. Can someone recommend a nice dvd burning software for making video dvd's with menus? (for ubuntu of course)
[15:59] <jamie74> ibuclaw or x-term
[15:59] <ibuclaw> jamie74, oh, no that is a different warning.
[15:59] <ZykoticK9> !remaster | Wipster
[15:59] <ibuclaw> *that* warning you get is because an Xserver is running =)
[15:59] <Duder> anyone?
[15:59] <tweaksource73> oberdada, deveve?
[16:00] <jamie74> ibuclaw yes, that's my problem i can't stop x-server to install the driver
[16:00] <tweaksource73> oberdada, or dvdauthor
[16:00] <ibuclaw> jamie74, actually, can you open a terminal and run the command:  runlevel
[16:00] <user0303> id like to see the list of services being shut down on shutdown and equally getting started on boot up. is there a way to get around the black screen in ubuntu?
[16:00] <ibuclaw> jamie74, does it output: N 5
[16:00] <oberdada> tweaksource73: you mean devedee?
[16:00] <Wipster> ZykoticK9, thanks but I have been reading and following the help documentation but I am stuck and cant find a solution
[16:00] <soreau> Duder: You are probably missing dependencies. Is vitlvee not included in ubuntu repos?
[16:00] <llutz> Duder: try libgnutls-dev
[16:01] <soreau> bitlbee*
[16:01] <ZykoticK9> Wipster, sorry man I've never tried it so can't give any advice - good luck
[16:01] <pshr> iceroot, do you know of how to recover a partition
[16:01] <Wipster> ZykoticK9, ok thanks anyway
[16:01] <ibuclaw> soreau, bitlbee is in the repos last time I checked.
[16:01] <jamie74> ibuclaw: N 2 at present
[16:01] <acicula> user0303: escape or alt tab or alts esc
[16:01] <James_-_> Need a distro (I know this is the ubuntu channel)... My project is this - I have an old Dell Latitude D610 with 512 ram and no hard drive... only the left side of the keyboard work, etc... you get the idea... I want a live disk ISO that will run well enough to connect a wireless keyboard and mouse and connect it to my TV so we can watch netflixs and surf the web from there.... fast and simple?  Any ideas?
[16:01] <acicula> user0303: or alt-f1 ?
[16:01] <ikonia> James_-_: if you know this is an ubuntu channel - don't ask
[16:01] <user0303> tjanks acicula!
[16:01] <ibuclaw> jamie74, that is interesting ...
[16:01] <acicula> user0303: one of those anyway :)
[16:01] <usuario> usuario
[16:01] <soreau> Duder: If bitlbee is in ubuntu repos, theres no reason to compile it..
[16:01] <soreau> !info bitlbee
[16:02] <ibuclaw> jamie74, is this on this desktop you are sitting at?
[16:02] <llutz> Duder: sudo apt-get build-dep bitlbee
[16:02] <jamie74> ibuclaw: i'm sure it has something to do with my SLI configuration, i just can't seem to make it work, I've read several things on it and no luck for me
[16:02] <acicula> James_-_: get something light, like xubuntu?
[16:02] <James_-_> I have ubuntu on more things and can shake a stick at... everyone here has been so helpful in the past thought at a minimum you could point me in the right direction
[16:02] <jamie74> ibuclaw: yes, looking at it right now
[16:02] <Duder> guys i tried to install it from the repos but i got another error, something about being unable to read .conf files
[16:02] <tweaksource73> james, xubuntu
[16:02] <user0303> acicula; I'll try to find it. thanks again
[16:02] <James_-_> there we go... ok acicule thanks
[16:02] <ibuclaw> jamie74, nah, it shouldn't affect what runlevel you are in.
[16:03] <acicula> James_-_: there is no way around 512mb ram with programs like firefox though, it'll get sluggish sometimes
[16:03] <soreau> Duder: What command gives you the error about conf files?
[16:03] <jamie74> ibuclaw: i take it i should n't be in level 2?
[16:03] <llutz> Duder: then "do something" to fix that error
[16:03] <Duder> soreau: when i run the software
[16:03] <tweaksource73> Does anyone know how to configure windows to open as a tabbed group?
[16:03] <James_-_> acicula are there different flavorers xubuntu or just whats on the main download page
[16:04] <ibuclaw> jamie74, well, runlevel 2,3,4 and 5 are all the same in Ubuntu. but it's usually 5. =)
[16:04] <acicula> James_-_: just the one, it follows the normal ubuntu versioning 9.04,9.10 etc
[16:04] <oberdada> where can i get dvdauthor? its not in my "add applications" menu
[16:04] <tweaksource73> james, xubuntu is a "flavor" of ubuntu
[16:04] <presumida_> hey , i gotta go, bye ikonia :) cu, bye all , adios erUSUL nos vemos por ubuntu-es jeje soy obiwan_ vneg chao
[16:04] <soreau> Duder: I somehow doubt installing from source is going to make that error disappear.. maybe you should show the command you are running followed by the errors that it gives in a pastebin
[16:04] <ibuclaw> jamie74, runlevel 1 is single-user mode (recovery console). runlevel 6 is reboot. runlevel 0 is shutdown.
[16:04] <llutz> oberdada: dvdauthor is a cli app
[16:04] <James_-_> acicula also if i dug up a gig of ram would that solve any problems it will have
[16:05] <jamie74> ibuclaw: i see, as I'm sure you've figured out, i'm an ubuntu noob, but i'm willing to learn. right now i'm ready to shoot someone  :P
[16:05] <SatanClaus> hey guys, I want to start a backup script on shutdown with upstart... which event shall i bind it to?
[16:05] <ZykoticK9> oberdada, "sudo apt-get install dvdauthor" from cli, or use Synatic -- not everything is listed in Add/Remove
[16:05] <acicula> James_-_: most definitly
[16:05] <James_-_> acicula well i will start with my 512 today and see what i can dig up over the next week, I thank you for your time
[16:05] <acicula> James_-_: unless a processor is truelly archaic ie PIII and lower adding more mem is the best way to improve performance
[16:06] <James_-_> thanks
[16:06] <Duder> bitlbee error: http://pastebin.com/m287195de
[16:06] <llutz> Duder: does "/etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf" exist?
[16:06] <ibuclaw> jamie74, hehe - just be lucky you have interwebz... 4 years ago, I didn't (motherboard was buggy and caused system freeze on all systems except Debian Woody).
[16:07] <llutz> Duder: "ls -ld /var/lib/bitlbee/" says what?
[16:07] <ibuclaw> jamie74, anyways, let me know how you get on with that push-legacy guide =)
[16:07] <Duder> llutz: drwx------ 2 bitlbee bitlbee 4096 2010-01-22 16:24 /var/lib/bitlbee/
[16:07] <jamie74> ibuclaw: i sure will, thanks for taking the time to help me out
[16:08] <MauritianGuy> if u increase the IV-Swap drive size to like twice the RAM how much difference does it make
[16:08] <vbajic> hey guys, i installed karmic on an hp envy 15, but i can't get the camera tow rok
[16:08] <andy-laptop> congrats
[16:08] <vbajic> hey guys, i installed karmic on an hp envy 15, but i can't get the camera to work. any clues?
[16:08] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, no difference - unless you plan on hibernating your workstation.
[16:08] <MauritianGuy> does it matter
[16:09] <soreau> Duder: Perhaps you need to add your user to the bitlbee group? </guess>
[16:09] <MauritianGuy> what do u mean ibuclaw
[16:09] <llutz> Duder: does "/etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf" exist?
[16:09] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, swap is a "fallback" cache used to stop your system from crashing in Linux.
[16:09] <MauritianGuy> hibernating will consume more ram
[16:09] <tuxsun> hi all
[16:09] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, no - to hibernate your system, you require a swap that in equal-to, or greater-than your RAM size.
[16:10] <Duder> the file exists, but i need root to open it
[16:10] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, because when you hibernate, everything in RAM gets pushed into the swap drive before you shutdown.
[16:10] <Duder> i forgot, how do i make it free to use for all accounts
[16:10] <alloosh> hi, I have 9.10 installed and I have xp also, now all I need is a way to choose which os on startup. currently it boots to ubuntu and have no way to go to xp, any guide, help
[16:10] <colin_> what does the autoclean actually do
[16:10] <MauritianGuy> i saw it in some linux PDF manual i just wanted to know why it was recomended
[16:10] <arand> MauritianGuy: When hibernating all you ram get's copied and "frozen" in th swap space
[16:10] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, and when you boot, the reverse happens (Swap -> RAM).
[16:10] <colin_> how does it determine what to clean up
[16:10] <llutz> Duder: what user  at "User = "?
[16:11] <genii> colin_: It removes packages which are still installed but not being used any more
[16:11] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, as I said initially, swap is good as a "fallback" for when you are running low of RAM.
[16:11] <llutz> Duder: you don't want to make it writeable to other
[16:11] <MauritianGuy> I c that's interesting
[16:11] <arand> alloosh: if you hold shift while booting does it show a boot menu?
[16:11] <ibuclaw> it's there to stop your system from crashing
[16:11] <tuxsun> why hibernate when you can just lock the screen?
[16:11] <llutz> Duder: bitlbee.conf is root:root 640
[16:11] <colin_> it doesnt make your comp run faster?
[16:11] <Duder> User = bitlbe
[16:11] <acicula> tuxsun: power saving
[16:12] <tuxsun> apm settings under the screensaver don't accomplish the same power saving??
[16:12] <MauritianGuy> u guys know so much i got to be here mo often
[16:12] <llutz> Duder: User = bitlbee             it has to be
[16:12] <Duder> llutz: root 640? Im not following you now
[16:12] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, if you have 2GB+ of RAM, you only require 2GB swap - unless you plan on hibernating, then you instead have RAM+512MB size.
[16:12] <MauritianGuy> just looking at the channel main i learn a lot
[16:12] <Duder> llutz:  yea it is bitlbee
[16:12] <arand> tuxsun: hibernation uses zero power, that's never doable othetwise
[16:12] <acicula> tuxsun: screensaver is not powersaving
[16:12] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, if you have less than 2GB RAM, RAM*1.5 size swap is recommended.
[16:12] <MauritianGuy> i got like 4GB but i kinds over did the IV-swap to 8GB
[16:13] <llutz> Duder: sorry, bitlbee.conf has to be:  -rw-r----- 1 root bitlbee
[16:13] <acicula> a screensaver doesnt save power in any waye ven
[16:13] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, =)
[16:13] <MauritianGuy> i thought it would make it work faster lol
[16:13] <Duder> llutz: so exactly what do i need to type? chmod somethign ?
[16:13] <llutz> Duder: so sudo chown root:bitlbee /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf
[16:13] <tuxsun> I know screensaver itself is not, but the advanced power management (APM) settings that shut off the monitor and drives, etc.... isn't that all hibernation can do??
[16:13] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, unless you run 3 Virtual Machines at once, chances am that you will never use the swap.
[16:14] <ikonia> acicula: it's a screensaver, not a powersaver
[16:14] <acicula> tuxsun: hibernation shuts down the machine and stores the current system state on the hard drive
[16:14] <acicula> ikonia: thats what i said
[16:14] <MauritianGuy> i am planning of using VM workstation
[16:14] <ikonia> acicula: sorry, I've just re-read I thought you where asking that
[16:14] <MauritianGuy> so i guess its good then
[16:14] <Duder> llutz: I still get the same error, what is chown anyways
[16:14] <soreau> Duder: It seems bitlbee is already started when its installed, so all there is left to do is use it http://bugs.bitlbee.org/bitlbee/ticket/446
[16:15] <llutz> Duder: enter "whatis chown"
[16:15] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, unlike Windows/Mac, which use 500MB+ when you boot the workstation, Linux is (for the time being) rather tiny in comparison
[16:15] <MauritianGuy> i am planning on sticking to Lunux learn as much as i can and do my work on virtual machine
[16:15] <tuxsun> ahhh. I forgot that hibernation actually powered down and did that system snapshot
[16:15] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, using from 200MB+
[16:15] <tuxsun> do man chown in a console to learn more about chown
[16:15] <acicula> ikonia: just here to help ;)
[16:15] <Duder> llutz: k thx
[16:15] <soreau> Duder: Isnt there a client that you use bitlbee with?
[16:15] <Duder> soreau: checking the link
[16:15] <tuxsun> chown let's you change the owner and/or group of a file or set of files
[16:16] <MauritianGuy> oh i increased that to 400MB as well
[16:16] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, Linux does love caching things in RAM though - so I guess the only thing that can speed up your system is more of it =)
[16:16] <soreau> Duder: In the link, it says BitlBee is automaticallly started when you install the package.
[16:16] <MauritianGuy> hehe
[16:16] <soreau> Duder: So my guess is it isnt meant to be ran directly but you probably just use it with whatever program that uses the service
[16:17] <Duder> lol yea xD ok well how do i run it from irssi
[16:17] <tuxsun> do i need to open a port in the router for remote desktop viewer to work on a home LAN?  both machines configured to allow remote desktop but can't see each other.  ssh works fine, however
[16:17] <Duder> yea i feel stupid now
[16:17] <Duder> :)
[16:17] <ibuclaw> MauritianGuy, 2GB RAM is optimal though for most modern workstations.
[16:17] <llutz> Duder: http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/bitlbee-and-irssi/
[16:17] <JF1976> i cant log into karmic via GDM ? all is fine using recovery the account works but after starting the GDM my account fails any clues?
[16:17] <Myrtti> Duder: you connect to it like to a normal IRC server.
[16:17] <acicula> tuxsun: not for connections between local lan machines
[16:17] <MauritianGuy> ok
[16:17] <Myrtti> Duder: given you've configured the bitlbee first
[16:17] <acicula> tuxsun: opening up router ports exposes the service to the entire internet even
[16:17] <Duder> k checkin the link
[16:17] <vbajic> MauritianGuy: just don't try to run any genome sequensing applications on those 2GB
[16:17] <bigcx2> hey guysk i have a question about using NAPI for my ethernet driver
[16:17] <MauritianGuy> so with my 4GB i should not get much crash
[16:18] <bigcx2> has anyone ever used this before?
[16:18] <vbajic> wjat
[16:18] <acicula> MauritianGuy: why would you get a crash based on mem size to begin with
[16:18] <tuxsun> thanks, acicula... that's what I thought... will need to explore more when I have more time... thanks for the info
[16:18] <hwilde> hey my peeps I got a custom them saved in my Appearances Preferences.  I want to save this to a usb key and move it to another computer.  help!
[16:18] <soreau> Duder: A quick google search shows this http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/bitlbee-and-irssi/
[16:18] <vbajic> what's the kernel module name for the webcams, please? | more
[16:19] <acicula> vbajic: video4linux and co
[16:19] <MauritianGuy> i dont know realy
[16:19] <acicula> !webcam > vbajic
[16:19] <acicula> MauritianGuy: then why worry about it?
[16:19] <vbajic> acicula: danke
[16:19] <MauritianGuy> i am just installing everything through that PDF
[16:19] <acicula> vbajic: np
[16:20] <MauritianGuy> and i thnk whoever wrote it has a thing for a lot of memory
[16:20] <soreau> Duder: Of course I will say the messages given when attempting to run bitlbee directly are misleading. It should probably tell you that its a daemon that is already running ;)
[16:20] <MauritianGuy> i'll have to start thinking in a different perspective when it comes to linux
[16:21] <acicula> MauritianGuy: everyone has ideas about mem and swap, but just let the installer decided how much it thinks you need and it will be fine
[16:22] <vbajic> acicula: so basically, if i'm not seeing the video4linux driver in the lsmod list, it's not loaded, right?
[16:22] <Duder> ok thanks guys, i gotta do some other stuff right now but i'll check into this later. thanks for the help and link, kthxbye
[16:22] <Wipster> anyone here got some experiance with remastering livecd's? My attempts have failed and I am not too sure what to do
[16:22] <acicula> vbajic: the system is called video4linux, the driver is something shorter
[16:22] <pozic> I cannot connect to the Internet anymore using Ubuntu through a socks4 proxy anymore. Did something recently change?
[16:23] <MauritianGuy> Wipster,  man i think whatever ur trying to do must be complicated it sounds complicated
[16:23] <tuxsun> back for a few... suggestions on troubleshooting the Remote Desktop Viewer?  1 pc is running 9.10 and the other is 8.04 LTS ... both sytems up-to-date
[16:23] <vaix> I can I configure ubuntu to force add some static "search" domains to /etc/resolv.conf when regenerated by /sbin/resolvconf?   I get my IP/DNs info via dhcp.  According to man - I can add a "dns-search" line to the interface file - but where does that exist when using networkmanager ?
[16:23] <vaix> s/^I/How/
[16:24] <acicula> vaix: right click the network applet and edit the connection settings?
[16:24] <fire_princes> Здравейте!
[16:24] <acicula> !ru
[16:24] <__8472> Hi, is here somebody who already tried new Firefox 3.6 on the Karmic Koala? Because I've found some problem when trying installing extensions to Firefox 3.6 from my local computer/desktop. I simply try it like before, drag&drop the extension from desktop/folder to the Add-ons window of Firefox, but it's not accepted. Nothing happens, no installation. But extensions from web site will make the extension install window to appear. Did somebody else have this p
[16:24] <__8472> roblem or?
[16:24] <soreau> tuxsun: What are you trying and what is not working?
[16:24] <MauritianGuy> fire_princes,  i think i dont have the font ur using it looks weird
[16:24] <frostburn> vaix, right click network manager, edit connections, edit
[16:24] <vaix> acicula: It does not let me - our options there only work if I disable DHCP for DNS and use it only for IP - else the DNS options are greyed out
[16:25] <Wipster> MauritianGuy, I am trying to take the current livecd take the kernel compile with some different options install a module change some default settings. Thats it really.
[16:25] <fire_princes> Ама тук някой говори ли български?
[16:25] <acicula> vaix, switch dhcp to dhcp adress only
[16:25] <acicula> !ru | fire_princes
[16:25] <tuxsun> soreau: the Find button in remote viewer finds nothing when I click on Domain and select local
[16:25] <Wipster> and turn back into a livecd for me to use on the fly
[16:25] <JZA> hi I got a deb question
[16:25] <fire_princes> Аз не съм русначка!
[16:25] <vaix> acicula: but then if i swithc networks - I will not get the correct settings for that one
[16:25] <JZA> how do I know where does deb put the files
[16:25] <JZA> I am looking for an argument that just list the paths where the files are allocated.
[16:25] <acicula> fire_princes: well i cant tell what language it is based on just cyrilics,
[16:26] <tuxsun> soreau: if I enter the IP address of the other pc in the Host field  i.e. 192.169.102 ... it fails to connect
[16:26] <MauritianGuy> Wipster,  i wouldn't know how to go about doing it
[16:26] <soreau> tuxsun: Cant you specify the IP?
[16:26] <Guest68544> can some one help me on a problen
[16:26] <fire_princes> I am speaking bulgarian!
[16:26] <acicula> !ask | Guest68544
[16:26] <soreau> tuxsun: Can you ping that IP?
[16:26] <acicula> !bu
[16:26] <colin_> cyrilics?
[16:26] <MauritianGuy> the fire_princes  is talking russian or i am missing some fonts
[16:26] <vaix> acicula: There has to be a place in some file which has the interface information ...
[16:26] <__8472> Hi, is here somebody who already tried new Firefox 3.6 on the Karmic Koala? Because I've found some problem when trying installing extensions to Firefox 3.6 from my local computer/desktop. I simply try it like before, drag&drop the extension from desktop/folder to the Add-ons window of Firefox, but it's not accepted. Nothing happens, no installation. But extensions from web site will make the extension install window to appear. Did somebody else have this p
[16:26] <__8472> roblem or?
[16:26] <Wipster> MauritianGuy, doesn't seem like many do.... they are keeping quiet about it heh
[16:26] <oCean_> !bg | fire_princes
[16:26] <fire_princes> I am not speaking risan
[16:26] <tuxsun> soreau: yes, it pings and I can ssh into it and do remote admin
[16:26] <acicula> fire_princes: for english speakers the difference is hard to make out ;)
[16:26] <Guest68544> how to i get my internal wireless card to work
[16:26] <MauritianGuy> lol Wipster well tell me a bit more about how u do that
[16:27] <Like> hi!
[16:27] <acicula> fire_princes: yes i guessed
[16:27] <MauritianGuy> maybe i could learn from u Wipster
[16:27] <acicula> !hi | Like
[16:27] <soreau> tuxsun: Did you configure the machine in sys>prefs>remote desktop?
[16:27] <acicula> vaix: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:27] <Guest68544> how do u make a internal wireless card work
[16:27] <tuxsun> yes, both machines are configured to ask for a password
[16:27] <MauritianGuy> Guest68544,  u got a laptop
[16:28] <Like> acicula u solve the problem with an pci -e x-fi xtreme audio ?
[16:28] <Guest68544> hes and it works on windows nd not ubuntu
[16:28] <acicula> colin_: cyrilics, afaik the alphabet used by the russian language, and i assume some of the other baltic states as well?
[16:28] <tuxsun> soreau: I can't find any documentation on the settings anywhere
[16:28] <ibuclaw> Guest68544, what type of internal card?
[16:28] <soreau> tuxsun: The settings for what?
[16:28] <acicula> Like: nope but have you looked at the audio help wiki?
[16:28] <acicula> !sound > Like
[16:28] <tuxsun> soreau: is there a HOW-TO or FAQ anywhere for Remoter Desktop Viewer?
[16:29] <Like> yes anyway tnx
[16:29] <Guest68544> um i have no clue right now but it wont work nd i need it to
[16:29] <colin_> ahhhh cool
[16:29] <acicula> !wireless > Guest68544
[16:29] <soreau> tuxsun: I dont know, someone would have to google..
[16:29] <__8472> Hi, is here somebody who already tried new Firefox 3.6 on the Karmic Koala? Because I've found some problem when trying installing extensions to Firefox 3.6 from my local computer/desktop. I simply try it like before, drag&drop the extension from desktop/folder to the Add-ons window of Firefox, but it's not accepted. Nothing happens, no installation. But extensions from web site will make the extension install window to appear. Did somebody else have this p
[16:29] <__8472> roblem or?
[16:29] <tuxsun> I have a lot of experience with PUTTY and ssh on UNIX and Windows... so I'm not exactly a newbie to this
[16:29] <ZykoticK9> Guest68544, "lspci | grep Ethernet" in a terminal will tell you your wireless card's name
[16:29] <oCean_> __8472: please have some patience before repeating your problem
[16:29] <Guest68544> so is anyone going to help me
[16:30] <mmm4m5m> ﻿﻿Hi. I am using firefox (ubuntu)... Just notice that safe browsing (phishing) is enabled by default. Then found this chrome://browser/content/preferences/phishEULA.xhtml - "Google will receive the URLs of pages you visit for evaluation". I do not like it and I disable it. Now I am just wondering why firefox/ubuntu never ask me - agree or not.
[16:30] <eremite> http://chvnx.com/post/347555300/i-wrote-an-ultra-minimalist-conky-configuration
[16:30] <soreau> tuxsun: How I usually set it up is in sys>prefs>remote desktop, configure it to accept connections so I can connect to it from another machine
[16:30] <eremite> oh crap, wrong channel, sorry!
[16:30] <Wipster> MauritianGuy, well sofar I am downloading the livecd and mounting and extracting it, then chrooting it and mounting the bits and bobs in there, I am downloading the kernel source from the repos and applying the default config with one modification then recompiling, problem being inserting it into the image and applying the loop-aes module. Its the final part I am falling over
[16:30] <colin_> what does autoclean actually do???
[16:30] <cstk421> anyone familiar with any distros for PPPOE?
[16:30] <soreau> tuxsun: Then vino should be running and should allow you to connect. Try restarting the vino service
[16:31] <onetinsoldier> colin_: uninstalls packages that were installed by a program that required them
[16:31] <oCean_> colin_: cleans out useless packagefiles in local repository
[16:31] <MauritianGuy> man i cant believe u can do all that u must be realy good
[16:31] <acicula> cstk421: any distro will be able to do pppoe?
[16:31] <oCean_> onetinsoldier: colin_ it's not an uninstall
[16:31] <tuxsun> soreau: good idea, I have not checked the service...
[16:31] <cstk421> i know that i am looking for support regarding PPPEO
[16:31] <cstk421> PPPOE
[16:31] <__8472> oCean_: I'm patient. I'm only reacting as I was told in the past by other members here, to repeat my question often
[16:31] <eremite> Anyone know if there's a NATIVE linux app for Veoh?  Its probably one of the best site sout there, but I cant watch videos on it with Linux....I dont think.
[16:31] <acicula> cstk421: on ubuntu?
[16:32] <Wipster> MauritianGuy, not good enough, alwasy more to learn
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> oCean_: oh.. my bad
[16:32] <colin_> yeah based on what tho?
[16:32] <Like> ok im upgrading hehe
[16:32] <ge2x> hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10, but the installaion tells, the cd is faulty. However, it's not - I checked. Also I got a crash report for modprobe. Maybe it is the problem?
[16:32] <colin_> time stamps
[16:32] <__8472> Hi, is here somebody who already tried new Firefox 3.6 on the Karmic Koala? Because I've found some problem when trying installing extensions to Firefox 3.6 from my local computer/desktop. I simply try it like before, drag&drop the extension from desktop/folder to the Add-ons window of Firefox, but it's not accepted. Nothing happens, no installation. But extensions from web site will make the extension install window to appear. Did somebody else have this p
[16:32] <__8472> roblem or?
[16:32] <cstk421> the roaring penguin build of PPPOE . havent tried it not sure if it runs on UBUNTU
[16:32] <vaix> acicula: hmm none of the ethX or wlanX interfaces exist in /etc/network/interfaces .... any other ideas?
[16:32] <MauritianGuy> Wipster, u will find the answer i am sure
[16:32] <acicula> ge2x: how did you check the cd is ok
[16:32] <oCean_> onetinsoldier: colin_ "autoremove" at the other hand will remove (e.g. uninstall) packages that were once installed to satisfy dependencies
[16:33] <sipior> colin_: autoclean is defined precisely in the apt-get man page.
[16:33] <acicula> vaix: well these are normally configured through the network applet, via edit connections
[16:33] <onetinsoldier> oCean_: roger
[16:33] <ge2x> acicula: with the built in checker, when I booted
[16:33] <colin_> but not needed anymore right? oCean_
[16:33] <oCean_> colin_: indeed
[16:34] <vaix> acicula: yeah.....    that is the beauty of OpenSource right.... if you can figure out where it is - you can change/fix it!
[16:34] <acicula> ge2x: where in the proecss does it fail
[16:34] <colin_> yeah i read it i just wanted to know how it determined it sipior
[16:34] <phong_> good morning guys
[16:34] <acicula> vaix: nm-connection-editor from a console will also let you edit the connection details
[16:34] <cstk421> acicula ?
[16:34] <acicula> you can specify any dns fancy stuff there
[16:34] <sipior> colin_: it tells you how in that paragraph :-)
[16:35] <cstk421> acicula: are you familiar with any pppoe setups that you could answer a couple of questions on?
[16:35] <acicula> cstk421: yes ubuntu does support pppoe just fine, but so should what ever you are on now , if you have trouble getting it to work its probably just due to a configuration error
[16:35] <halvar> so whats the best atm, 32bit vs 64bit ubuntu ??
[16:35] <cstk421> i havent tried to use it yet
[16:36] <acicula> cstk421: this is an ubuntu support channel
[16:36] <cstk421> gotcha
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> halvar, basic rule of thumb - if you have more then 4G of memory, go 64bit
[16:36] <acicula> it sorta helps if you run ubuntu
[16:36] <twisted_> Hi all could any one help me i need to make my icons smaller on jolicloud desktop
[16:36] <__8472> Hi, is here somebody who already tried new Firefox 3.6 on the Karmic Koala? Because I've found some problem when trying installing extensions to Firefox 3.6 from my local computer/desktop. I simply try it like before, drag&drop the extension from desktop/folder to the Add-ons window of Firefox, but it's not accepted. Nothing happens, no installation. But extensions from web site will make the extension install window to appear. Did somebody else have this p
[16:36] <__8472> roblem or?
[16:36] <diddy> VLC get out of sync when I pause and restart a movie.
[16:36] <diddy> Is there any way to resync it again?
[16:36] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | __8472
[16:36] <acicula> __8472: you installed form the ppa?
[16:37] <JHPryke> Hi, i was in here earlier and asked a question about World of Warcraft. Some people asked for more details on the error message. Basicly ive been playing WoW via wine for months. I have just purchased a new 32" tv and now WoW wont load anymore, its not a linux error but a WoW error - The error is as follows
[16:37] <cstk421> acicula: if i did decide to go with UBUNTU ... what would be the best build of PPPOE to use with it/
[16:37] <cstk421> ?
[16:37] <JHPryke> ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception
[16:37] <JHPryke> Program:	C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe
[16:37] <JHPryke> Exception:	0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0073:006194ED
[16:37] <JHPryke> The instruction at "0x006194ED" referenced memory at "0xFA6CA698".
[16:37] <JHPryke> The memory could not be "written".
[16:37] <FloodBot1> JHPryke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <acicula> cstk421: there is no best build of pppoe
[16:37] <__8472> acicula: no, downloaded the tar.bz2 package directly from mozilla page. as always when some new mozilla product is released.
[16:37] <acicula> cstk421: its a protocol
[16:37] <twisted_> Hi all could any one help me i need to make my icons smaller on jolicloud desktop
[16:37] <acicula> cstk421: from the previous century
[16:37] <cstk421> acicula: and what is used in this century?
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> !pastebin | JHPryke
[16:38] <__8472> acicula: no, downloaded the tar.bz2 package directly from mozilla page. as always when some new mozilla product is released.
[16:38] <Chousuke> JHPryke: It might be a bug in WoW or in Wine. I think you should ask the wine devs.
[16:38] <eremite> JHPryke, If you're running World of Warcraft, run your Repair.exe and let it filter through the first portion (I usually do Check Files only). After that, it seems to work fine most of the time.
[16:39] <_raven_> can audacity split an audio-file into smaller own files by setting markers?
[16:39] <acicula> __8472: stop repeating, also #ubuntu is probably not the best place to ask about software not yet available for the current stable release
[16:39] <acicula> _raven_: dunno about markets but i click and audacity splits the files
[16:39] <twisted_> Hi all could any one help me i need to make my icons smaller on jolicloud desktop
[16:40] <JHPryke> Ok thanks ill try both awnsers
[16:40] <acicula> twisted_: try asking in jolicloud support?
[16:40] <oCean_> twisted_: jolicloud is not ubuntu, now is it?
[16:40] <cstk421> acicula:what is used in this century?
[16:40] <twisted_> sorry.. will do
[16:41] <_raven_> acicula, ok but i mean one 60 minute file saving into 10 minute files
[16:41] <acicula> _raven_: i dont see why that would be an issue, but best to have a look at the audacity support docs
[16:42] <_raven_> acicula, how are you doing it
[16:42] <frostburn> other than compiling, what's the best way to get firefox 3.6 for amd64?
[16:42] <Wipster> !wireless > MauritianGuy
[16:42] <acicula> frostburn: ppa (google)
[16:42] <ZykoticK9> frostburn, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[16:43] <frostburn> acicula, ZykoticK9 already checked, it's not in there, only a dummy package
[16:43] <acicula> _raven_: i just selected portions of the file and exported those
[16:43] <frostburn> its there fore 32bit, but not 64
[16:43] <_raven_> acicula, ah i see
[16:43] <acicula> frostburn: then it doesnt exist i guess
[16:43] <_raven_> acicula, but i mean something automatic like wavelab does it
[16:44] <acicula> _raven_: that i dont know, try the docs or a specific audacity support channel if it exists?
[16:45] <_raven_> ok tnx
[16:46] <alex_> hi, I need help with changing resolution
[16:46] <colin_> use the gui
[16:47] <colin_> its in system
[16:47] <boubbin_> alex_ what kind of problem?
[16:47] <alex_> system -> preferences -> display just tells me to use nvidia-config
[16:47] <alex_> I can't set the resolution I want
[16:48] <boubbin_> have you tried nvidia-config ?
[16:48] <alex_> in nvidia-settings I get the wrong list of available res.
[16:48] <ZykoticK9> alex_, use "sudo nvidia-settings" and try saving to Xorg - you'll probably get a Failed to Parse error if your using 9.10
[16:48] <ZykoticK9> alex_, s/sudo/gksu
[16:48] <harissouna> hello all i'm a new linuxian
[16:48] <harissouna> thank you to help me
[16:49] <alex_> ZykoticK9, what do I have to save to xorg?
[16:49] <colin_> check to see if you have the right xorg driver
[16:49] <colin_> for your nvidia
[16:49] <ZykoticK9> !ask | harissouna
[16:49] <tuxsun> soreau: I mispoke... the machines saw each other yesterday before I replaced CentOS with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS on the machine and now they can't see each other. hmmm....
[16:49] <ZykoticK9> alex_, there is a button in nvidia-settings for saving to xorg file -- if you don't when you reboot your changes will be lost
[16:50] <alex_> ZykoticK9, I get Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[16:50] <alex_> yes ZykoticK9, see what I wrote above :p
[16:50] <ZykoticK9> alex_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/360761/
[16:50] <grapple> anyone here good with permissions?
[16:50] <MauritianGuy> looks like everyone gets graphic card issue hmmm
[16:50] <acicula> just ask grapple
[16:52] <grapple> got an ubuntu 9.10 server with 20 users. i need for the instructor, who has sudo access to be able to create a file and copy it into everyone home dir and for all those users to have rwx access. i also created a group called prog and all these users as well as the instructor are in that group
[16:52] <MauritianGuy> maybe ibuclaw  can help u grapple
[16:52] <alex_> ok ZykoticK9, now I restart xorg? or do I try to add modelines to my new xorg.conf?
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> alex_, i wouldn't try adding modelines if i where you -- let the driver to the heavy lifting for you!
[16:53] <alex_> I have the modelines, so I might as well add them now
[16:53] <alex_> ok
[16:53] <grapple> if i create a file as they instructor, even one with 777 perms on it, the others still cannot write to it
[16:53] <alex_> ZykoticK9, so do Y just restart and see if it works?
[16:53] <alex_> do I^
[16:53] <ZykoticK9> alex_, sure
[16:53] <acicula> grapple: is it in a directory that is accessible?
[16:53] <alex_> k see you :D
[16:54] <Fragipani> hello, could anyone help me with the alsamixer in gnome?
[16:54] <MauritianGuy> i am going to bet people
[16:54] <grapple> acicula... yes... the instructor creates a file in his home dir and then copies it top all the students home dir, but they dont have write perms even though the instructor makes the file 777
[16:55] <Fragipani> alsamixer is working fine, but I can't adjust it with the panel
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> !gnome-alsamixer
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> oops. how do you get info?
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> !info gnome-alsamixer
[16:56] <alex_> ZykoticK9, now my only resolutions are 640x480 and 300x200
[16:56] <alex_> :D
[16:56] <grapple> #ubuntu-server
[16:56] <acicula> grapple: whats the permission after he copies the file
[16:56] <ZykoticK9> alex_, are you using the nvidia driver provided by Ubuntu? or direct from Nvidia?
[16:57] <alex_> I installed it with synaptic
[16:57] <alex_> I found the problem, I think
[16:57] <ZykoticK9> alex_, perhaps you'll need to manually add the modelines (is this an old monitor or something?)
[16:57] <alex_>     VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
[16:57] <Elmer_Stud> hey guys
[16:58] <alex_> ZykoticK9, seems like horizsync and vertrefresh areincorrect
[16:58] <alex_> in the new xorg.conf
[16:58] <epii> holaaaa
[16:58] <Pici> !es | epii
[16:58] <ZykoticK9> alex_, just be careful you're adding the correct values - you can fry you monitor by adding incorrect values to xorg like this...
[16:58] <epii> q ya lo seee
[16:59] <epii> adios
[16:59] <tuxsun> grapple: chgrp the file to users  and chmod the file to 775 ...  at 777 it should work no matter the user or group
[16:59] <epii> mb pesaaoo
[16:59] <epii> holaaa
[16:59] <alex_> ZykoticK9, I'll just add the modelines I was using before with gentoo
[16:59] <MauritianGuy> cheerz people
[16:59] <MauritianGuy> have a great day
[17:00] <brandonban6> Does anyone have a command to look up kernel version?
[17:00] <Pici> brandonban6: uname -a
[17:00] <mcphargus_> uname -a
[17:01] <cshadowrun_> Has anyone got ubuntu working with Vodafone TopUp and Go (UK) ?
[17:02] <cshadowrun_> Mine won't connect, i've tried everything :(
[17:02] <Daughain> growls softly as he hears the step of the Free when Daughain enters the Inn.
[17:03] <Daughain> Can someo9ne telk me how to get network toolss to turn ON my wlan0?
[17:03] <Daughain> looks over to the door, whiskers twitching at the abject form of the slave.
[17:03] <Daughain> eyes khannedy as they enter the doorway then lays his head back down as he recognizes the step of slave.
[17:03] <Daughain> watches YeTr2 warily as they enter the Inn, ears flattening back slightly.
[17:03] <Daughain> eyes steffan as they enter the doorway then lays his head back down as he recognizes the step of slave.
[17:03] <FloodBot1> Daughain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <frostburn> when you ssh into an ubuntu system, you get all sorts of system stats... where does one configure that?  I didn't see it in /etc/bash.bashrc nor in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> frostburn, /etc/motd
[17:05] <frostburn> ZykoticK9, ahh gotcha
[17:05] <Daughain> Lemme try this again....Can some9one help me get my otyher system back online?
[17:06] <PyroPhelia> does anybody know of any sites that give advanced tutorials on mdadm?
[17:08] <Ziber> If I set the uid bit on a file, to run it as root, and set the group as a non-root user, and set g+x, why do i get permission denied when running it from the non-root account?
[17:08] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, does group also have read as well as execute?
[17:09] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: it needs read?
[17:09]  * Ziber tries this
[17:09] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, you can't execute what you can't read
[17:09] <Ziber> touche.
[17:11] <sognigrandiosi> salve a tutti
[17:12] <brandonban6> thanks Pici
[17:12] <nubuntu> hey can any1 tell me how to make vlc work in nubutnu
[17:13] <sognigrandiosi> qualcuno mi dà una mano....
[17:13] <sognigrandiosi> mi servono informazioni
[17:14] <pha> hey people - I would really appreciate it if someone could help me with this issue...    I was using my laptop as a spare server, but decided to install desktop on it... so Installed FreeNX on it so I can access it from outside.
[17:14] <sriramoman> hello guys
[17:14] <pha> I changed the ssh port, and it has always worked and let me connect to the server, (and when I change ssh port back to 22, it allows me to connect).
[17:15] <pha> I changed the config (node.conf) to sshd_port=newport - and rebooted NX, but still having the problem connecting.
[17:15] <pha> Any ideas?
[17:15] <NarbeH> i can't Lock my Screen, (using 9.10) even i can't run ScreenSaver.
[17:15] <NarbeH> what's the problem?
[17:16] <rweng> someone ever seen something like this when doing ls -lah authorized_keys
[17:16] <rweng> ?????????? ? ? ? ?                ? authorized_keys
[17:16] <rweng> cant even run chown as root
[17:16] <Ziber> What do I put at the end of a command to remove output?
[17:16] <NarbeH> i can't Lock my Screen, (using 9.10) even i can't run ScreenSaver.
[17:16] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, "... 2>/dev/null"
[17:16] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: thanks
[17:16] <brandonban6> pha, forgive me if I am asking the obvious, but have your forwarded the new port or made an exception in your router/firewall?
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, it might actually be "... 2 > /dev/null"
[17:17] <NarbeH> i can't Lock my Screen, (using 9.10) even i can't run ScreenSaver.
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | NarbeH
[17:17] <pha> brandonban6, lol - no I would have asked the same thing - yeah, I completely disabled the firewall, and I forwarded the port on the router.
[17:18] <dsearle> ZykoticK9: I don't think spacing matters
[17:18] <pha> was one of the first trouble shooting methods I did...
[17:18] <pha> I have been trying to google an answer, but can't find anything that helps.
[17:18] <JZA> hi I got issues installing and post-configuring postgresql in ubuntu
[17:18] <pha> people who have ran into the same problem as me, but there's no "real" solution for it from what I can see...
[17:18] <JZA> the #postgresql people told me to get the documentation from the ubuntu repo in the hope of bieng tweaked for the distro
[17:19] <JZA> however the documentation is the same as in the website and all the paths seems to be messed up
[17:19] <sipior> Ziber: if you're looking to get everything (stdout and stderr), try "...&> /dev/null" (assuming bash, if course)
[17:19] <JZA> can anyone here help me out
[17:19] <brandonban6> pha, yeah it does seem strange... I like ssh cause it just works if the gates are open! You can ping the machine right?
[17:19] <ubuntuG13> what key would control autologin in gconf-editor?
[17:19] <CAPcap> how do i check what my IP is?
[17:19] <rweng> anybody here who can explain this? http://pastie.org/790021
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, ifconfig
[17:20] <brandonban6> CAPcap, ifconfig
[17:20] <brandonban6> ahhh ZykoticK9 beat me :P
[17:20] <NarbeH> why i can't lock my screen?
[17:20] <CAPcap> is there a way to check the IP addresses of all the computers on my home network?
[17:20] <pha> brandon-, yeah, everything seems to be fine - I can connect to it when I change the ssh port ... I just can't connect to the desktop using the new port.
[17:20] <pha> sorry, brandonban6*
[17:21] <ubuntuG13> what key do I have to modify to turn off autologin in gconf2-tool from ssh?
[17:21] <brandonban6> pha, that is strange, sorry wish I had some more ideas for you.
[17:21] <pha> brandonban6, no problem mate, thank-you for your input... I really appreciate it.
[17:21] <dsearle> CAPcap: you could use nmap to do a ping scan nmap -sP 192.168.2.1-254
[17:21] <brandonban6> CAPcap, I like to use Nmap
[17:22] <CAPcap> what do i type in to do that?
[17:22] <brandonban6> CAPcap, you need to install it (google it) and then use dsearle's command.
[17:22] <ubuntuG13> CAPcap GOOGLE
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> ubuntuG13, i have no idea on the gconf key but couldn't you ssh with X forwarding and use "gksu gdmsetup"?
[17:23] <CAPcap> mreh i'll just do it by checking the other computers by hand =P
[17:23] <CAPcap> thanks tho :)
[17:23] <Pici> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:24] <ubuntuG13> I turned on autologin but the filesystem if encrypted (done at install remember: require password to login and decrypt home dir) well if you set it to autologin after that you can't login cause you can't decrypt the home dir :-)
[17:24] <acicula> CAPcap: open a browser and type www.whatismyip.com, or if you want to see your local ip type ifconfig in a console, note that these are not necessarily the same
[17:24] <pwnedulongtime> how would I go about debugging a slow boot time on karmic?
[17:24] <alteregoa> fascinating
[17:24] <pwnedulongtime> are there tools for that?
[17:24] <acicula> pwnedulongtime: there is a boot time profilere yes
[17:24] <ubuntuG13> I am ssh in to the box but I need to know the key to change to turn off autologin
[17:25] <pwnedulongtime> acicula, what's it called?
[17:25] <ubuntuG13> gconf2-tool key
[17:25] <acicula> pwnedulongtime: dunno, should be easy to find via google, phoronix.org uses it to analyze distros
[17:25] <CAPcap> really guys im fine now, i was just trying to set up my printer. im good thanks for all ur help
[17:25] <ubuntuG13> thats a huge bug
[17:25] <ubuntuG13> ANYONE THERE?
[17:26] <alteregoa> ubuntu is full of it
[17:26] <ubuntuG13> yeah but it works well
[17:26] <ubuntuG13> what is the login application ubuntu uses ? GDM?
[17:26] <alteregoa> ubuntuG13: because this configuration files crap of linux
[17:27] <rferreira> hey fellas, is there any way to set pulseaudio to use a null device?
[17:27] <dsearle> ubuntuG13: by default GDM yes
[17:27] <alteregoa> ubuntuG13: it should be like windows, a single file, with a registry
[17:27] <rferreira> I'm having problems with pulseaudio and flash on a server without a sound card
[17:27] <ubuntuG13> alteregoa yeah so it promotes corruption?
[17:27] <ZykoticK9> alteregoa, NO IT SHOUDN'T
[17:27] <ubuntuG13> GREAT IDEA
[17:27] <acicula> !offtopic | ubuntuG13 ,ZykoticK9 ,alteregoa
[17:27] <alteregoa> ZykoticK9: yes it should, because you can set the rights to every key
[17:28] <Nichod> Ok. I for the life of me can't get flash player to work with everything.
[17:28] <Nichod> It will work with embedded videos.
[17:28] <Nichod> But not hulu.
[17:28] <alteregoa> ZykoticK9: just because microsoft invented that very good system it has not to be bad.
[17:29] <Nichod> Or it will load and not play.
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> !offtopic | alteregoa
[17:29] <ubuntuG13> I need to know how to turn off autologin from ssh with gconf2-tool cause there is a bug in 9.10 where if you set encryption during install then put autologin on afterwards you can not login because it can not decrypt home directory
[17:29] <bubuub> libres.irc-hispano.org
[17:29] <alteregoa> 10'000 config files across the harddisk, whatever think what you want
[17:29] <ubuntuG13> I am no offtopic these other idiots are I am just trying to help out a buddy
[17:29] <sipior> alteregoa: this isn't really a channel for discussing systems architecture.
[17:30] <alteregoa> sipior: yeah, its to archaic to talk about new stuff here
[17:30] <ubuntuG13> shut up and let people who need help get it
[17:30] <acicula> alteregoa: please stop trolling the channel
[17:30] <sipior> alteregoa: i don't see you talking about anything new. let's move along.
[17:30] <Pici> ubuntuG13: Please be civil. This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.
[17:30] <ubuntuG13> I need to know how to turn off autologin from ssh with gconf2-tool cause there is a bug in 9.10 where if you set encryption during install then put autologin on afterwards you can not login because it can not decrypt home directory
[17:31] <ubuntuG13> thus you can not login to your machine
[17:31] <heavens> Hi, I want to instll a sato label printer on ubuntu, the sato people says the drivers can only be installed on windows? Any help? I am a really beginner!
[17:31] <alteregoa> i just want to help making things better, but its hard to argue with stoistics
[17:31] <conb123> Hiya, i'm attempting to install some gnome-do plugins but it says that it requires a package called libevolution5.0-cli, does anyone know what happened to this package?
[17:31] <TopKatz> hello - were does ubuntu instll the mysql server binarys?  trying to install jasper reports and it wants to know were they are
[17:31] <ubuntuG13> heavens you can probably use the printer through vmware/virtualbox or possibly with some Mac OS X drivers or there may even be generic open source drivers somewhere
[17:32] <acicula> alteregoa: please stop trolling the channel, take it to offtopic
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> ubuntuG13, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309143 it's in /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[17:32] <ubuntuG13> thank you
[17:32] <Pici> acicula: Trolling isn't allowed in offtopic either.
[17:32] <llutz> TopKatz: dpkg -L mysql-server|grep bin
[17:32] <acicula> Pici: touche ;)
[17:33] <Nichod> Any help or suggestions for my flash issue?
[17:33] <skrite> hey all, i have been tasked with building an embedded computer with ubuntu minimal, it has to have no moving parts, and use a compact flash as the hard drive, anyone recommend a good one?
[17:34] <JonFromCanada> Quick Ubuntu question: I am missing the shutdown/logout/username icon [on the top right corner]. How do I get it restored?
[17:34] <TopKatz> looks like usr/bin
[17:34] <acicula> JonFromCanada: right click the panel and readd the widget?
[17:34] <conb123> Hiya is there any way to use apt-get install with an option that ignores unmet dependencies?
[17:34] <acicula> JonFromCanada: Add to panel
[17:34] <JonFromCanada> acicula: It is not listed in that menu.
[17:34] <heavens> ubuntuG13, Thanks, I don't really understand right now but Ill have a look on that
[17:34] <Nichod> I have uninstalled flash-installer. manually downloaded flash for 64bit ubuntu 9.10, extracted and placed into the appropriate folders (plugins, addons, etc.)
[17:34] <ubuntuG13> heavens what kind of printer is it model wise?
[17:35] <acicula> JonFromCanada: its called the indicator applet
[17:35] <acicula> JonFromCanada: indicator applet session even
[17:35] <ubuntuG13> hey check this out heavens actually you can install it on an XP machine or some machine you can get it to work with and then maybe share the printer to the linux machine
[17:35] <acicula> Nichod: whats the appropriate folder you put it in?
[17:35] <rferreira> does anyone know of a null driver for pulseaudio?
[17:36] <acicula> rferreira: you mean one that redirects pulseuadio to null?
[17:36] <heavens> ubuntu G13 it is a label barcoding printer
[17:36] <dean> hey, whats the best thing to use if you want to encode an avi into a dvd?
[17:36] <rferreira> acicula: yep
[17:36] <JonFromCanada> acicula: The indicator applet only gives me my Empathy mail, no username in the corner, and I already have it in the top right.
[17:36] <heavens> ubuntuG13 it is a label barcoding printer
[17:36] <joinet> I need some help to bild my Ati readon x200 series on my laptop toshiba
[17:37] <acicula> rferreira:  pulse-daemon.conf ? id venture it has a null sink
[17:37] <joinet> xorg.conf
[17:37] <ubuntuG13> whats the manufacturer and model
[17:37] <rferreira> acicula: hmmm
[17:37] <joinet> settings
[17:37] <joinet> T10-L30
[17:37] <acicula> JonFromCanada: the indicator-applet widget or the indicator-applet-session widget ?
[17:37] <heavens> ubuntu G13 is a sato x400
[17:37] <tobiasz_> is there any hope for non sucky flashplayer soon?
[17:37] <joinet> x200
[17:38] <joinet> wiki.org may be get some help?
[17:38] <JonFromCanada> acicula: I only have "indicator applet", no session.
[17:38] <conb123> Ok why won't my rhythmbox play mp3's, i checked synaptic and all the gstreamer packages are already installed, i clicked search when rhythmbox told me there is no decoder for mp3's but it didn't find anything
[17:38] <Guest85307> problem on wireless, help me !
[17:38] <Nichod> acicula: i placed it in the firefox plugins folders
[17:38] <enoch> hi all
[17:38] <yo> hi
[17:38] <dsearle> JonFromCanada: The widget you may be looking for is called "User Switcher"
[17:39] <enoch> ia have a problem with Network Manager, it says that my wifi is not enabled
[17:39] <ganymede> hello, i'm using ubuntu 9.10. given complete sudo privileges, can i log into the session of another user who has selected "switch user" or "lock session" and shows up as logged in on gdm? i need to shut this machine down for maintenance but i'd like to check first whether they have anything important left open, and they are not around right now
[17:39] <enoch> and i cannot enable it
[17:39] <yo> problem on realtek
[17:39] <yo> my
[17:39] <JonFromCanada> dsearle: User switcher prints the full name and allows you to switch users. What I am looking for is the icon that comes at the VERY top right, it displays your user name, and when clicking it, you can choose different shutdown options, etc.
[17:39] <acicula> JonFromCanada: try apt-get install indicator-applet-session , log out and back in and then try adding it via the same way
[17:40] <enoch> in the logs the last lines says; wlan0 supplicant manager state; down > idle
[17:40] <enoch> what can i do?
[17:40] <jellow> ganymede: Run who to see who is logged in and top or htop to see whats going on
[17:40] <heavens> ubuntuG13 is a sato x400 printer
[17:40] <Travis-42> I'm having problems using postfix. Some emails seem to not get sent by postfix, but they also don't show up in the postfix log (even with -v for verbose turned on). Could it still be a postfix problem, or is it more likely whatever is trying to send to postfix?
[17:40] <JonFromCanada> acicula: Ahh hell. That'd do it. I had a very random problem where my GNOME got destroyed [don't ask me how], so my friend had to completely nuke gdm and anything that depended upon gdm. I suppose some packages were left behind when we re-installed them.
[17:41] <JonFromCanada> acicula: I'll be back, logging.
[17:41] <Nichod> sigh. flash worked perfectly fine in 9.04 :(
[17:41] <ganymede> jellow, but that doesn't tell me everything. suppose i see "gedit" in ps aux, i still can't tell whether the user has unsaved files open
[17:42] <hwilde> ganymede, lsof will show you all the open file pointers on the system
[17:42] <tobiasz> any hope for flashplayer which isn't eating up to 90% cpu
[17:42] <tobiasz> ?
[17:43] <arand> Nichod: which folder? should be ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ..
[17:43] <JonFromCanada> Back. Still one small issue but I do not recall the user of the person helping me.
[17:44] <dsearle> JonFromCanada: acicula was helping you
[17:44] <JonFromCanada> I need to put something in the very top right of the GNOME UI panel, beside the clock, but I don't know how to move anything past the separator
[17:45] <fommil_> I have a Tomcat server running on Ubuntu Hardy that has a WebDAV folder set up over SSL/HTTPS. I can access the directory from an OS X client no problem. However, when I try to connect to the directory from an Ubuntu Jaunty client, Nautilus gives up and says "not authenticated". Anyone else able to get WebDAV/Nautilus working?
[17:45] <JonFromCanada> Anyone know how to move a widget to that area?
[17:45] <arand> Nichod: Ah, just saw earlier msgs, so flash is working but poorly... Don
[17:45] <JoeSomebody> hi i am doing an update and i am asked about samba, it says keep the local version currently installed , etc etc
[17:45] <arand> Nichod: ..'t know what to do about that..
[17:45] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: Yeah, but like its harder to do
[17:45] <JoeSomebody> install the package maintainers version means?
[17:45] <ubuntuG13> Is there a reason why Samba Shares stopped working in 9.10?
[17:45] <JoeSomebody> ubuntus latest?
[17:45] <Flare-Laptop> JoeSomebody: Yes
[17:45] <fommil_> Flare-Laptop: ?
[17:46] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: like WebDAV is evil to Nautilus you have to add something special for it work
[17:46] <arand> JoeSomebody: If you have any own specific configurations they might be overwritten in that case
[17:46] <JoeSomebody> i assume its  best to do  "install the package maintainers version"?
[17:46] <Flare-Laptop> idk remember exactly what tho
[17:46] <JonFromCanada> acicula: I need to put that new widget into the top right now, the issue is it is stopped at the separator before wifi battery sound clock, etc. How do I move a widget to this area?
[17:46] <fommil_> Flare-Laptop: right
[17:46] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: Let me look it up :)
[17:46] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: Unless you have edited the samba config manually
[17:47] <fommil_> Flare-Laptop: that would be helpful, I've tried but failed
[17:47] <arand> JonFromCanada: if you don't have any specific settings there you know of, yes install the "maintainer's"
[17:47] <ubuntuG13> is there any certain reason why samba doesn't work right in 9.10?
[17:47] <jellow> JonFromCanada: you need to unlock it -> Right click On seperator > Uncheck "Lock to panel"
[17:47] <JoeSomebody> dsearle, i have
[17:47] <JonFromCanada> acicula: I'm an idiot. Got it. Thanks.
[17:47] <JoeSomebody> i'll have to copy it off
[17:48] <JonFromCanada> lol jellow I know I just realised. haha.
[17:48] <JoeSomebody> where is that file again? :)
[17:48] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: Like I've got a "Secure WebDAV" option on my server's GUI, and I know it works. So let me find out how I got that to work again :)
[17:48] <ZykoticK9> JonFromCanada, right click on the separator and uncheck "lock to panel", move your new applet where you want it - then you could relock it if you wanted
[17:48] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: Well i would select the "keep current version"
[17:48] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: I believe /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:48] <Pici> ubuntuG13: Perhaps if you explain to everyone what isn't working exactly, then there will be a suggestion.  Its working fine for me on my installs.
[17:48] <JoeSomebody> i am usually a latest version kind of guy
[17:50] <ubuntuG13> after I install Ubuntu 9.10 on Desktop and Laptop and install samba and smbfs they say Cant open Windows Share and also nautilus pops up a dbus message saying the folders/shares are already mounted, I can view the shares but not connect
[17:50] <heavens> ubuntuG13 I am on a laptop, I ve got power failure and battery is finish, Im not quite sure if you are still with me. I ust found virtual bon, I will try that. Thanks again
[17:50] <conb123> Why won't mp3's play in ubuntu karmic, i install restricted extras and it wont find any plugins when it tries to search for them.
[17:50] <JoeSomebody> so i have saved the bottom section, iirc that is the only part i need to write back?
[17:51] <ganymede> hwilde, man...that is quite a bit of output to weed through. i think i'll just...wait until they get back
[17:51] <ZykoticK9> conb123, have you tried playing MP3s with something other then Rhythmbox?
[17:51] <JoeSomebody> should i close all other programs like this one  while updating? (i usually do)
[17:51] <hwilde> ganymede, you should be able to grep for somethin
[17:51] <conb123> ZykoticK9: Well yeah i tried it in the movie player as well, totem i think it's called
[17:52] <CAPcap> conb123 ive have you restarted rhythmbox since u installed the extras?
[17:52] <ubuntuG13> heavens the best way is to probably use VirtualBox install XP get it working in there then share to Ubuntu
[17:52] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: Would be a wise idea
[17:52] <hwilde> ganymede, lsof | grep theirusername
[17:52] <tobiasz> any hope for flashplayer which isn't eating up to 90% cpu?
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks
[17:52] <ubuntuG13> after I install Ubuntu 9.10 on Desktop and Laptop and install samba and smbfs they say Cant open Windows Share and also nautilus pops up a dbus message saying the folders/shares are already mounted, I can view the shares but not connect
[17:52] <conb123> CAPcap: Yup
[17:52] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: Usaully not much of a problem
[17:52] <CAPcap> conb123 how about ur computer?
[17:52] <heavens> I will try, Hope to get there
[17:52] <aspiro> bonjour
[17:52] <JoeSomebody> ok, later :0
[17:52] <dsearle> JoeSomebody: but its "recomended" ;)
[17:52] <aspiro> hi ^^'
[17:53] <ganymede> hwilde, but there's still a question of whether that is revealing everything...maybe they're in the middle of typing up an email in a webmail interface and it hasn't saved a draft...etc, it's still most preferable to actually log into their session
[17:53] <conb123> CAPcap: Well no would i really have to do that?
[17:53] <hwilde> ganymede, run "top" and see if there are any active processes with their username
[17:53] <arand> tobiasz: gnash, maybe... You'd have to whine at adobe for that, which don't seem to care much for gnu/linux-flash
[17:54] <CAPcap> conb123 not usually, but ive had problems with rhythmbox too that are now gone... couldnt play m4a files but they play now and all i can remember doing was rebooting. it never hurts realy
[17:54] <ganymede> hwilde, but there is still a difference between a running process and an application with unsaved data
[17:54] <fabio_> ola
[17:54] <puma> ola
[17:55] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: Like I can't find it :(
[17:55] <fommil_> Flare-Laptop: like, thanks
[17:55] <conb123> CAPcap: Right ok then, I just tried vlc as well, it started playing but there was no sound
[17:55] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: lol Nice :P
[17:55] <NoobUser> A stubborn DVD won't eject. How do I force it to eject?
[17:56] <fabio_> elou
[17:56] <Flare-Laptop> NoobUser: sudo umount /dev/dvd1
[17:56] <fommil_> Flare-Laptop: that's pretty crazy that SSL WebDAV isn't supported out of the box
[17:56] <jellow> NoobUser: eject -t
[17:56] <CAPcap> conb123 thats beyond me sorry. :\ just post ur questions again
[17:56] <Flare-Laptop> fommil_: Well I know its possible so yeah
[17:56] <NoobUser> jellow: Not working.
[17:56] <madcat1990> I am needing help with ubuntu server and network bridging, all tutorials online either don't work with me or make both connections not work
[17:56] <CAPcap> NoobUser, right click it on ur desktop and unmount it if that option is available
[17:56] <fabio_> elou
[17:56] <NoobUser> Flare-Laptop: It's not mounted.
[17:57] <NoobUser> CAPcap: It's not mounted.
[17:57] <Flare-Laptop> NoobUser: oh ok
[17:57] <noecc> I have the following in /etc/ufw/user.rules
[17:57] <noecc> ### tuple ### deny any any 0.0.0.0/0 any 119.112.0.0/13
[17:57] <noecc> -A ufw-user-input -s 119.112.0.0/13 -j DROP
[17:57] <chipgeri> how to install vlc player?
[17:58] <iceroot> chipgeri: sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:58] <madcat1990> @chipgeri : open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[17:58] <MYabes> #ubuntu-sugar
[17:58] <jellow> NoobUser: No idea , eject -t should work - Reboot?
[17:58] <noecc> yet 119.119.243.49 was able to get to a login screen on the web site.
[17:58] <NoobUser> jellow: I'd rather not reboot.
[17:58] <madcat1990> can someone help me with my network bridge? =/
[17:58] <noecc> any ideas how?
[17:58] <NoobUser> jellow: That's a Windoze solution.
[17:58] <octaveous> hi all, i am looking for a good tutorial for setting up an online installation server. I have been googling around for quite a bit now but no success :(. any help would be appreciated
[17:58] <bala> Ad
[17:59] <bala> hi
[17:59] <bala> tell me how to install vlc???
[17:59] <CAPcap> NoobUser, how about a pry bar and a hammer? that should get it out in a jiffy
[17:59] <octaveous> sudo aptitude install vlc
[18:00] <NoobUser> CAPcap: This channel is full of unhelpful people.
[18:00] <iceroot> bala: sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:00] <hwilde> NoobUser, what is your major malfunction
[18:00] <octaveous> ﻿hi all, i am looking for a good tutorial for setting up an online installation server. I have been googling around for quite a bit now but no success :(. any help would be appreciated
[18:00] <jellow> NoobUser: Have a look at "man eject" Might be something =/
[18:00] <NoobUser> hwilde: eject reports no output and doesn't work
[18:01] <switchgirl> how to sync my alcatel ot-708 with ubuntu?
[18:02] <hwilde> NoobUser, sudo eject -v -d -i 0
[18:04] <Ziber> A box that I have has 22mb free of physical RAM, but has ~2G of swap. if physical RAM runs out, will I notice?
[18:04] <hwilde> Ziber, writing to swap is using your harddrive, which is theoretically slower read/write than ram
[18:04] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:05]  * Ziber nods... 
[18:05] <Ziber> noticably slower?
[18:05] <iceroot> Ziber: yes
[18:05] <Ziber> okay.
[18:05] <hwilde> Ziber, the slow down will be the amount of data in swap divided by the difference in readwrite speed between ram and your harddrive
[18:05] <muep__> Ziber: often Linux uses all the available RAM for caching the hard disks, to make file reads faster. It can instantly free this cache memory for applications, though, when the require it
[18:06] <nitrate_> octaveous, do you mean something along this article ? http://bit.ly/2kZfXA
[18:06] <Ziber> alright...
[18:06] <acicula> Ziber: free -m reports the total mem in use and the mem acutally used after subtracting buffered stuff
[18:06] <Ziber> acicula: yeah, thats how i saw that is has very little physical ram left.
[18:06] <Ziber> *it has
[18:06] <hwilde> Ziber, it is worth noting linux will use as much ram as possible to try to make things fast, it doesn't necessarily mean you are out of memory
[18:06] <Ziber> okay.
[18:07] <actionparsnip> Ziber: unused ram is wasted ram
[18:07] <hwilde> Ziber, for example, try opening a bunch of applications, and run that command again
[18:07] <acicula> Ziber: thats normal, look in the free column ,the 2e value is the real fre memory for applications
[18:07] <hwilde> it will have shifted memory from cache and buffers into use
[18:07] <Ziber> ie, on a VM i'm running, i have 2mb of physical ram (only gave it 128mb), but 2G of swap.
[18:08] <actionparsnip> Ziber: you can instruct the system to drop the cache but it will rebuild soon. It will let you see the ral used ram for actual apps though
[18:08] <Ziber> well, as long as it wont run out of mem and like crash or something, im fine.
[18:09] <ubuntuG13> I followed this tut to get samba going and it wont let me connect: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1168
[18:09] <ubuntuG13> I tried to share the Public folder in the home Dir
[18:09] <actionparsnip> Ziber: totally, the kernel is smart and will sort it out for you based on what it has to play with
[18:09] <acicula> Ziber: your actual mem is backed by swap, so its almost always dettrimental to assign very little memory and much hd swap to a vm
[18:09] <ubuntuG13> I edited my smb.conf so the home dir would be available
[18:09] <PyroPhelia> is it possible to see every ip that a user has ever had?
[18:10] <Ziber> acicula: its a bad idea to give 2G of hd swap and 128mb RAM? why?
[18:10] <actionparsnip> Ubuntug13: nautilus can share folders for you (if you use it)
[18:10]  * alteregoa eats a karmic banana
[18:10] <acicula> Ziber: say you have 4GB of actual mem, and start 10 VMS wit 128MB mem and the rest HD swap
[18:10] <ubuntuG13> yes I know it wasnt working I can share between ubuntu now but not Windows VM
[18:10] <acicula> Ziber: it will lead to extensive hd swapping while you still have plenty of mem left
[18:10] <hwilde> Ziber, ram is faster than swap.  that is the only point here
[18:10] <actionparsnip> Pyrophelia: users don't get ip addresses, hostnames do
[18:10] <acicula> your OS will back real mem with swap when necessary
[18:10] <Ziber> well, the physical box only has 256mb of RAM to begin with.
[18:11] <hwilde> upgrade.
[18:11] <acicula> Ziber: ah, then why virtualize on that?
[18:11] <alteregoa> get 2gb
[18:11] <alteregoa> with 2gb ubuntu runs smoothly
[18:11] <Ziber> its an old laptop that my dad was going to trash. and its all i have to play with
[18:11] <actionparsnip> Ziber: you can set swappiness lower to reduce swapping by the kernel. But 2gb for 128mb ram is a lot
[18:11] <colin_> does anyone know the java irc
[18:12] <colin_> like the freenode server
[18:12] <Ziber> alright...
[18:12] <acicula> fair enough, its  gonna be slow though, lots of swapping on laptop hd's , well :/
[18:12] <actionparsnip> Colin_: try #java
[18:12] <alteregoa> you can set swap in your video memory
[18:12] <chewbranca> I just installed ubuntu on my macbook and I wanted to say I am amazingly impressed with how well it installed
[18:12] <chewbranca> everything is working perfectly, audio video sleep hibernate wireless even the touchpad
[18:13] <hwilde> chewbranca, make a backup image before you jinx it
[18:13] <chewbranca> hwilde, hahaha
[18:13] <hwilde> seriously.
[18:13] <PyroPhelia> actionparsnip, I've setup a private login for a client and I want to know if they have tried to login yet
[18:13] <actionparsnip> chewbranca: +1 to hwilde. Get partimage on the case ;)
[18:14] <chewbranca> hwilde, already backed up osx on there, but it was just a base install, only thing I had to configure was the touchpad
[18:14] <CAPcap> I havent had any real problems either chewbranca but im running a dell laptop. only thing that doesnt work is hibernate but this is an old model that couldnt hibernate back when it was windows so thats not surprising
[18:14] <militant> kinda having an issue.  always before, my bit torrent clients (transmission, deluged) ran fine.  now they're eating a ton of cpu and lagging up the whole machine including GUI really bad.  would there be any way to find out what they're doing?
[18:14] <PyroPhelia> actionparsnip, I would like to be able to see the IPs of seccessful and attempts of logins if there is a way
[18:14] <chewbranca> unfortunately my backup drive is much smaller than my laptop drive so I don't have room to do extra backups right now
[18:14] <actionparsnip> Pyrophelia: if its a basic user logon there are logs foe that so you can see when a user logged on etc
[18:14] <hwilde> PyroPhelia, /var/log/auth.log
[18:15] <acicula> militant: heavy disk activity, many torrents or large amount of connections?
[18:15] <Ziber> i really should install ubuntu 9.04 on my other box (which i used to use as a windows xp pro desktop) which has 2gb of ram
[18:15] <chewbranca> CAPcap, nice, yeah its working surprisingly well for me
[18:15] <llutz> PyroPhelia: last "user"
[18:15] <actionparsnip> Pyrophelia: not sure what granularity they use though. Maybe it needs adding
[18:15] <crom09> i want to access a folder in my ubuntu desktop from my xp laptop, can anybody help me?
[18:16] <hwilde> !samba > crom09
[18:16] <actionparsnip> Ziber: if it suits the requirement of the system, go for it
[18:16] <chewbranca> this is a 1st gen macbook, so not the strongest of components, so I'm going to throw on awesome wm or xmonad to make it even faster
[18:16] <militant> acicula, i'm thinking disk activity, preallocating space and so on.  deluged hung so bad i couldn't kill it except by rebooting, stayed that way for an hour... transmission came out of it mostly now
[18:16] <acicula> militant: got many torrents open/seeding?
[18:16] <actionparsnip> Ziber: if the xp is running fine, why fix what isn't broken ;)
[18:16] <crom09> ok, I installed the samba thing, and shared the folder, but i don't know how to see it from my xp laptop
[18:16] <militant> just one
[18:17] <acicula> militant: if you pause the torrent does the problem go away?
[18:17] <hwilde> crom09, http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Sharing_Ubuntu_Linux_Folders_with_Remote_Windows_Systems
[18:17] <chewbranca> crom09, probably not in the same workgroup, check the whole 'windows network'
[18:17] <actionparsnip> Crom09: read the factoid fully
[18:17] <JJR> hi all
[18:17] <chewbranca> crom09, or just connect directly, that usually works a lot easier
[18:17] <crom09> ok, going to read that
[18:17] <acicula> militant: in that case it may just be making to much connections, reducint the total allowed connection count may help
[18:17] <hwilde> crom09, there is actually a youtube video as well if you search  "How-to: File sharing with Ubuntu using Samba"
[18:17] <chewbranca> crom09, hit connect to server and type the ip address :D
[18:18] <crom09> ok thx, i'll see these things and ask agian if i still have problems
[18:18] <militant> hmmm.  it's mostly come out of it.  weird that they both ran into issues though, and only lately.
[18:18] <JJR> anyone willing to help me setting up my graphic card properly..??
[18:18] <brandonban6> JJR, I think lots of ppl are willing... what the issue?
[18:19] <actionparsnip> Jjr: sudo lshw -C display :will tell you what it is
[18:19] <actionparsnip> Jjr: you can use the product line to find guides.
[18:19] <JJR> it a intell 4500m
[18:19] <JJR> well i tried a couple of guids w/o any luck
[18:20] <actionparsnip> Jjr: you may have to form an xorg.conf file to get it nice. Usually intel vga things just pickup ok
[18:21] <hwilde> JJR, what is not configured correctly about your graphics card ?
[18:21] <JJR> yep that is the problem how to set it up correctly
[18:22] <hwilde> JJR, you have no graphics ?
[18:22] <JJR> iv got nothing under device in x11.conf
[18:22] <acicula> JJR: what have you done to set it up? whats is the problem and what are you trying to achieve?
[18:22] <JJR> in x11.org under "section device" it says Configured Video Device"
[18:22] <acicula> JJR: and can you type in a console glxinfo | grep dri
[18:23] <hwilde> JJR, do you have a graphical display, yes or no
[18:23] <JJR> under monitor ---->Configured Monitor
[18:23] <actionparsnip> Jjr: try installing the xorg edgers ppa and upgrading. May help
[18:23] <JJR> glxinfo currently not installed
[18:24] <mplabs> Hello
[18:24] <actionparsnip> Jjr: what release are you using? I just read a laptop eiki for a lenovo lappy with the same chip and reportes it worked for with karmic
[18:24] <actionparsnip> !hi | mplabs
[18:24] <bubuub>  /server libres.irc-hispano.org
[18:24] <JJR> aser aspire 5738z
[18:25] <jamie> hid3, I have an Ipod touch , and I need a way to sync and add music in ubuntu.
[18:25] <mplabs> I have a problem with my webcam, the image is inverted (180 degrees rotated). Any idea ?
[18:25] <acicula> actionparsnip: it does, im on a gma4500 laptop here, supports been rocking for karmic
[18:25] <actionparsnip> Jjr: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[18:25] <brandonban6> mplabs, what application does this occur in?
[18:25] <JJR> code name interupid
[18:26] <drewby> how can I record the audio output
[18:26] <actionparsnip> Acicula: nice. I avoid intel's vga personally
[18:26] <JJR> Codename:       intrepid
[18:26] <JJR> **
[18:26] <drewby> I could do it in 8.10 by playing with volume controls,  can't figure it out anymore though I still agree volume controls are much better
[18:26] <acicula> actionparsnip: well from the bunch the 4500 isnt to bad
[18:26] <mplabs> doesn't matter the application, in all applications the same :S
[18:26] <m33cfw> my firefox starts automatically on startup.which i don't want but its not listed in startup applications
[18:27] <actionparsnip> Jjr: try adding the xorg edgers ppa. It may. Help. Or install karmic
[18:27] <DanaG> hmm, anyone know how to encrypt home on an already-installed system?
[18:27] <jamie> How do I sync my Ipod touch in linux, and add music?
[18:27] <Topy44> does anyone know where exactly the look of the window list applet buttons gets defined?
[18:27] <actionparsnip> !ipod | jamie
[18:27] <jamie> Thanks action.
[18:27] <Topy44> also used as titlebar by the window picker applet
[18:27] <JJR> how to do that how to add edger ppa...?
[18:27] <soreau> m33cfw: Which DE?
[18:28] <mplabs> is there an appication to control webcam's effects ?
[18:28] <actionparsnip> Jjr: I can't websearch for you too well on my g1 phone. It will appear if you look
[18:28] <JJR> ok thanks i will try uncle google
[18:28] <CAPcap> I'm having problems installing Google Chrome have a popup that says "The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file."
[18:29] <soreau> DanaG: My guess would be to create a partition with encrypted file system, cp everything from home to it, then make a symlink
[18:29] <skrite> CAPcap, how are you trying to install?
[18:29] <DanaG> oh heck, if I were going to do that, I'd just reinstall.
[18:29] <CAPcap> I downloaded it from Google's website and am letting the package installer do the work...
[18:30] <DanaG> Is there any easier way?
[18:30] <DanaG> I don't actually have very much data on the thing right now.'
[18:30] <Audible> hmm
[18:30] <JJR> so how do i install glx package
[18:31] <actionparsnip> Capcap: add the chromium ppa. Much easier
[18:31] <Audible> my mysql server suddenly decided not to work anymore
[18:31] <drewby> I downloaded some python script to do it for me, nvrmnd guys, thanks.
[18:31] <CAPcap> actionparsnip i thought chromium and chrome werent the same
[18:31] <soreau> JJR: Which card do you have?
[18:31] <skrite> CAPcap,   try using this, it is what has worked the best when i install chrome on ubuntu boxes http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[18:31] <JJR> intel 4500m
[18:31] <maverick_> how do i get thunar to automount my ipod touch (after jailbreaking and following instructions), which happens automatically in nautilus and works just fine?
[18:32] <soreau> JJR: Then glx is already installed
[18:32] <soreau> JJR: Are you having a problem?
[18:32] <brandonban6> DanaG, you could install truecrypt and use an encrypted container within your home partition.
[18:32] <brandonban6> partition=directory :)
[18:32] <skrite> CAPcap, since chrome is open source, some linux devs built their own version because it was kinda taking google a while to get around to making the linux version
[18:33] <actionparsnip> Capcap: chromium is the bleeding edge version
[18:33] <skrite> CAPcap, i just use the google-chrome, myself
[18:33] <JJR> well i want to run"glxinfo | grep dri
[18:33] <JJR> " and the output is "The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed"
[18:33] <CAPcap> skrite so chromium is a debian/ubuntu custom stable version essentially?
[18:33] <DanaG> I want the thing with the least performance impact.
[18:33] <actionparsnip> Capcap: you cannot add some addons to chrome and you must use chromium. It also means you can install using apt-get etc which is much nicer
[18:33] <hwilde> JJR, what exactly is the problem with your display
[18:34] <DanaG> I don't need resistance to brute-force; just resistance to casual snooping by other users.
[18:34] <JJR> cant set it up
[18:34] <hwilde> JJR, so you have NO graphics ?
[18:34] <soreau> JJR: Its provided by mesa-utils
[18:34] <JJR> when i open "configure display" there are notning
[18:34] <actionparsnip> Jjr: did the edgers ppa not help?
[18:34] <jamie> How can I change the applications icon (manually)
[18:34] <JJR> si empty
[18:34] <nascentmind> Hi. I have installed openldap in ubuntu 9.10 but I am not prompted for an admin password. why is that?
[18:34] <amusselm-vogon> Hello folks, I'm having some problems with my Xorg. I can't seem to set it to resoluations higher than 800x600. Plus, my virtual TTYs are not working either.
[18:34] <hwilde> JJR, do you have a graphical login when you turn on your computer?
[18:34] <JJR> steel reading
[18:34] <JJR> yes
[18:35] <JJR> and also i cant change resolution
[18:35] <Taroven> Anyone here use the Razer Naga at all? Mine doesn't seem to agree with Ubuntu.
[18:35] <hwilde> JJR, when you login are you presented with a graphical desktop ?
[18:35] <JJR> yes
[18:35] <skrite> CAPcap, actually, i have not used chromium in some time, not since the dev channel for google chrome was made available.
[18:35] <hwilde> JJR, so all you need is to change the resolution?
[18:35] <soreau> JJR: Make sure x11-server-utils and mesa-utils are installed
[18:35] <brandonban6> DanaG, there would be minimal performance impact with truecrypt (using the container method), you essential have an encrypted file inside your home directory that you could store sensitive information on.
[18:35] <JJR>  well yes and fix my x11.conf
[18:35] <JJR> some how
[18:35] <actionparsnip> Capcap: I use it here with 64bit flash and 64bit java. Works a treat
[18:35] <CAPcap> ok i have another question, I changed my password, but when i went to install this, and it asked for my password but it wouldnt take my new one, it wanted my old one...
[18:35] <skrite> CAPcap, google-chrome on ubuntu from dev channel does get updated pretty regularly
[18:36] <soreau> JJR: You dont need an xorg.conf with newer versions of X and open drivers like intel
[18:36] <hwilde> JJR, if you have graphics then your xorg.conf is fine.  when you go to system preferences display can you change resolution?
[18:36] <hcook> howdy
[18:36] <skrite> CAPcap, how did you change your passowrd?
[18:36] <actionparsnip> Capcap: run: passwd
[18:36] <actionparsnip> Capcap: then type the password you want
[18:36] <JJR> i think so my karnell is 2.6.30.9
[18:36] <nascentmind> anybody?
[18:36] <JJR> nope
[18:37] <soreau> JJR: glxinfo is provided by the mesa-utils package
[18:37] <CAPcap> i changed my password under System>Administration>Users and Groups
[18:37] <MaRLBoRo> anybody know how to manage my iphone in ubuntu
[18:37] <roberto__> ciao
[18:37] <user_> i'm trying to set up dhcp on virtual interface, any help?
[18:37] <actionparsnip> !ipod | marlboro
[18:37] <hwilde> he said iphone
[18:37] <hwilde> which requires itunes or jailbreak
[18:37] <roberto__> cerco una guida su ubuntu 9.10
[18:37] <DanaG> ah, my sensitive things would include pidgin logs, not user preferences... okay, that works for me.
[18:38] <JJR> and also when i press ctrl+alt+bcksp" and then startx again
[18:38] <vexu> i think i need help with something
[18:38] <JJR> i can change resolution
[18:38] <actionparsnip> User_: dhcp server or client?
[18:38] <JJR> but when i try  kde is crashing the screen goes black
[18:38] <vexu> i was trying to install ifuse from this web site http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-connect-iphoneipod-touch-using-usbin-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html#more-2042
[18:39] <vexu> and some how erased my source.list
[18:39] <soreau> JJR: What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ?
[18:39] <vexu> wondering if anyone can help
[18:39] <MaRLBoRo> i don't want to jailbreak my iphone
[18:39] <vexu> jailbreak your phone
[18:39] <MaRLBoRo> what i want is to add and remove music to my iphone
[18:39] <vexu> can anyone help?
[18:39] <soreau> vexu: Go to sys>admin>software sources and enable default sources there
[18:39] <user_> actionparsnip: client
[18:39] <MaRLBoRo> i got 3.0.2 version on my iphone
[18:40] <JJR> glxinfo|grep dri
[18:40] <JJR> " nothing
[18:40] <user_> actionparsnip: eth0 dhcp is fine, eth0:0 dhcp not fine
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> !sources | vexu
[18:40] <user_> even with different hwadr
[18:40] <actionparsnip> Vexu: if you websearch for sources.list yourreleasenamehere you will strike gold if noone pastebin's theirs
[18:40] <d4n1> hey, i need help, im completeley lost, it has to do with C, but is strickly based on linux -->  http://pastebin.com/m38f41f5
[18:40] <JJR> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset 20061102 x86/MMX/SSE2
[18:40] <soreau> JJR: grep renderer, not dri
[18:40] <ik1> Does anyone know when will Thunderbird 3 be released in the regular Karmic package list?
[18:40] <Taroven> Anyone here use the Razer Naga at all? Mine doesn't seem to agree with Ubuntu (no response onscreen from mouse movement/clicks).
[18:40] <JJR> that is
[18:40] <soreau> JJR: So it looks like your graphics are fine
[18:40] <iceroot> d4n1: #c
[18:41] <d4n1> thank you
[18:41] <soreau> JJR: Does compiz work?
[18:41] <actionparsnip> Marlboro: you have a device from one of the most closed minded companies around so you will have issues using it on an OS they refuse to support. Apple suck
[18:42] <MaRLBoRo> ngek!
[18:42] <Taroven> Not sure if I'd call Apple close-minded, but spot on with the rest.
[18:42] <vexu> this is the error is shot back  E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[18:42] <vexu> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:42] <vexu> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[18:42] <vexu> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:42] <JJR> yes it works but i just did a fresh install because of the stuped graphig card and i have to install it again
[18:42] <FloodBot1> vexu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <vexu>  i will check out those sites
[18:42] <actionparsnip> Marlboro: some users even shell out for a license and run a whole virtualise system just because apple are so ignorant and they want to use their devices
[18:42] <soreau> JJR: Maybe try karmic.
[18:42] <Dani98> ola
[18:43] <actionparsnip> Marlboro: you may find so,e solace in wine. I have seen the newer versions run itunes a little. Check the appdb
[18:44] <MaRLBoRo> i already installed wine and itunes...but when i connect my iphone it didn't recognized my iphone from itunes
[18:44] <blakkheim> MaRLBoRo: lol itunes in wine
[18:44] <jemark> try rhythmbox ;)
[18:44] <ik1> When will the default Ubuntu Karmic repository include Thunderbird 3 by default?
[18:44] <tal> Is it impossible to install a very minimal command line interface ubuntu install?
[18:44] <actionparsnip> Vexu: read the line to make sure it is ok. It will look like the rest somewhat. I personally bet you have the word sudo in there
[18:45] <blakkheim> !mini > tal
[18:45] <jemark> tal, yes it is
[18:45] <roberto__> irc.abjects.net
[18:45] <actionparsnip> Blakkheim: seems it works a little now. Check it out. I could be wrong
[18:45] <MaRLBoRo> i saw some instruction from web..to install i tunes i need to install wine
[18:45] <iceroot> ik1: never
[18:45] <CAPcap> ok im trying to change my password in user settings but its been checking my password for 3 minutes
[18:45] <LuciusMare_> hello
[18:46] <tyrosine> is there a functional java-enabled web browser lighter than firefox? firefox feels bulkier than it was a few years ago (phoenix days)
[18:46] <iceroot> ik1: a ubuntu-version is only getting security updates, no major-updates
[18:46] <LuciusMare_> i once used ubuntu and checked encrypt my home partition, now i migrated, but i have no idea how should i unencrypt my files
[18:46] <actionparsnip> Tyrosine: kazenchase or arora are light
[18:46] <actionparsnip> Tyrosine: firefox is bloated beyond comprehension
[18:46] <tal> blakkheim, jemark,  I know about the mini iso, just wanted to know just how small it is - I'm thinking, debian lci small, but debian has failed me. I'm on a netbook and the debian installer insists you look for the cdrom during the install =/
[18:47] <blakkheim> tal: i've used the debian usb netinstall on a netbook and it worked
[18:47] <tal> blakkheim, Just tried that - apparently, ALL the mirrors are bad.
[18:47] <tal> or need a proxy code
[18:47] <ahayzen> @tyrosine: I use Seamonkey which uses the firefox engine but is much faster
[18:47] <blakkheim> tal: i used the usa http server
[18:48] <JJR> ok so how to add my graphic card and monitor in x11.conf
[18:48] <CAPcap> ok im trying to change my password in user settings but its been checking my password for 6 minutes
[18:48] <tal> blakkheim,  I tried all the UK, then moved to USA, then, randomly attempted Portugal.
[18:48] <JJR> and how to change "vesa" to intel"
[18:48] <iceroot> ik1: please no pms
[18:49] <iceroot> ik1: as i said, an ubuntu-version will only get security-updates, no major updates
[18:49] <iceroot> !backport | ik1
[18:49] <tal> blakkheim, I'll try the mini and will return if all else fails! Thanks for the help.
[18:49] <MaRLBoRo> as of now nothing to do with my iphone...i cn't even manage my music :( suck!!
[18:49] <ahayzen> @tyrosine: Find seamonkey at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
[18:50] <ik1> Thanks a lot iceroot
[18:50] <tyrosine> thx ahayzen
[18:50] <vbajic> hey guys, is there something in the wiki about installing skype on karmik? i get video out to other people, but i cannot see myself on the video
[18:50] <ik1> iceroot: thanks a lot
[18:51] <maverick_> can anyone help me with this error in google chrome: The server's security certificate is revoked!...this happens even when i visit help.ubuntu.com
[18:51] <CAPcap> HELP! I changed my password earlier and it worked for a little while but has reverted to my old password again! WTF
[18:51] <blakkheim> CAPcap: that shouldn't happen. perhaps you've been rooted?
[18:51] <CAPcap> been rooted?
[18:51] <blakkheim> CAPcap: hacked, in other words. someone else may be doing it.
[18:52] <blakkheim> CAPcap: is this a server or just regular desktop?
[18:52] <soreau> CAPcap: Can you explain what makes you think your password has changed?
[18:52] <CAPcap> Desktop
[18:52] <blakkheim> CAPcap: if you run "sudo passwd yourusername" and change it, see if it reverts back again later.
[18:53] <Zosimos> alright, i installed gta san andreas in wine using these instructions: http://sudosys.be/?q=GTA_san_andreas_on_ubuntu_8_04_wine -- it's noteworthy that when i start the game it's highly buggy, i cant read the words etc. and if i run the game outside of wine's virtual desktop, the resolution on my entire desktop goes haywire
[18:53] <soreau> Zosimos: #wine-hq
[18:53] <Zosimos> i have an hp, and i know i dont have ati graphics card, checked. so theoretically my game should have worked
[18:53] <actionparsnip_> Zosimos: i'd ask in #winehq its more specific to you issue
[18:53] <eremite> I just installed Freebirth, an app from the repos, and nothing happens when i click on the icon.  Nothing at all.
[18:53] <Zosimos> ah thanks
[18:53] <CAPcap> I changed my password in the user settings manager, and later it asked me for my password to install something and it wanted my old password, wouldnt take my new one. when i went to the manager again, and tried to change my password id didnt want my new one it wanted my old one.
[18:54] <actionparsnip_> Zosimos: make sure you are using the latest wine from the wine repo
[18:54] <actionparsnip_> Zosimos: and have the game itself fully updated
[18:54] <Zosimos> i am
[18:54] <soreau> CAPcap: Since changing your password, have you logged in again?
[18:54] <JZA> how can I add multiple groups to a file?
[18:54] <CAPcap> soreau no
[18:54] <JZA> chgrp ?? newgroup <file>
[18:54] <Zosimos> i have wine1.2 installed with aptitude. i'm all set
[18:55] <hwilde> JZA, file can only hve one group permission
[18:55] <soreau> CAPcap: See if restarting X by logging out helps
[18:55] <duffer> maverick: Is your system date correct?
[18:55] <actionparsnip_> blakkheim: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18308
[18:55] <Zosimos> unfortunately i need a registered name to talk on winehq, how inconveniant
[18:55] <actionparsnip_> !register | zosimos
[18:55] <CAPcap> well im back to my old password, the change wasnt important i just wanted to know what was happening...
[18:55] <blakkheim> actionparsnip_: crazy, the idea of itunes in wine used to be laughable
[18:55] <soreau> Zosimos: Since freenode has been under attack lately, many channels have resorted to setting +R
[18:56] <CAPcap> and what do you mean by restarting X?
[18:56] <actionparsnip_> Zosimos: not unfortunate at all
[18:56] <hwilde> Zosimos, registering is free and really easy
[18:56] <soreau> CAPcap: Logging out
[18:56] <actionparsnip_> Blakkheim: I just avoid apple's garbage. My G1 is android to the max baby
[18:56] <guntbert> blakkheim: be warned that sudo passwd user is the *one* method I know to bork an encrypted homedir
[18:56] <crom09> I asked a question 10 minutes ago about sharing folders
[18:57] <hwilde> crom09, welcome back
[18:57] <blakkheim> guntbert: he didn't mention encryption
[18:57] <crom09> just wanted to say that i was doing everything ok, my problem was that firestarter was blocking things
[18:57] <actionparsnip_> Crom09: d'oh ;)
[18:57] <crom09> if i stop the firewall everything goes well
[18:57] <hwilde> crom09, you come from windows land?  you doin't really need a firewall in linux :)
[18:57] <LuciusMare_> heh
[18:57] <guntbert> blakkheim: I didn't imply that :) - just a general warning from a support case last week
[18:57] <blakkheim> guntbert: k
[18:58] <actionparsnip_> Crom09: then allow the traffic from the client system or permit the service
[18:58] <crom09> well, yes, anyway what is firestrarter useful for?
[18:58] <actionparsnip_> Crom09: if you use a router then a firewall is a bit ott
[18:58] <crom09> yes, i use a router
[18:58] <guntbert> blakkheim: and people tend to forget about that encryption - I will ask actively in the future
[18:59] <actionparsnip_> Crom09: your router will protect you due to the nature of nat
[18:59] <crom09> so i'll be better off uninstalling firestrter?
[18:59] <soreau> Isnt firestarter just a frontend to iptables and friends?
[19:00] <actionparsnip_> Crom09: its not really needed imho. The router will do a fine job
[19:00] <ik1> ik:test
[19:00] <user_> I'd like to have two ips to one interface, and then load balance between these interfaces to increase throughput, possible?
[19:01] <ranjan> hello every body
[19:02] <wm_> how do i get to single user prompt in grub , during boot ?
[19:02] <guntbert> user_: no advantage if there is only one physical interface
[19:02] <oCean_> user_: 2 ips on 1 interface? What type of loadbalancing would that be?
[19:02] <user_> wm_: shift + escape
[19:02] <user_> guntbert: my halls of residence throttles to 100KiB/s
[19:02] <user_> so I'd get 200KiB/s with two lines
[19:03] <hwilde> user_, you can do like this:   sudo ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.102 netmask 255.255.255.0
[19:03] <ranjan> i am having an issue with samba share ..... at my place it is giving an error message wile trying to open network place with the windows system... it is giving unable to mount list from the server i am on ubuntu 9.10 setup please help
[19:03] <hwilde> user_, that will define a virtual interface eth0:1 with that ip
[19:03] <user_> hwilde: yes, then i need to set up a bridge, which doesn't work because eth0:1 is a bridge
[19:04] <CAPcap> ok i changed my password logged back in and now my yahoo connection with empathy are gone
[19:04] <crom09> ranjan: have you installed firestarter?
[19:04] <ranjan> crom09: no
[19:05] <CAPcap> when i try to redo them i get a message about my keyring and account manager and usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5
[19:05] <oCean_> user_: have 1 physical interface, you'd still gain no advantage
[19:05] <MaRLBoRo> i install ipod-convenience
[19:06] <user_> oCean_: how come?
[19:06] <user_> 100KiB/s to internet is slow
[19:06] <MaRLBoRo> but got problem
[19:06] <MaRLBoRo> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:06] <MaRLBoRo> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[19:06] <MaRLBoRo> what's that means
[19:06] <oCean_> oCean_: there is one line in (the physical thing) right? There is your limit
[19:06] <Audible> are there any command in linux to get a unique identifier of the computer?
[19:07] <oCean_> user_: ^
[19:07] <SatanClaus> heyho, since ubuntu 9.10 my console output of a backup initscript doesn't appear anymore. Some hint?
[19:07] <crom09> bye
[19:07] <guntbert> MaRLBoRo: is a second packag manager running?
[19:07] <SatanClaus> (the script seems to run, but I can't see the progress or anything)
[19:07] <noe> olaaa
[19:07] <user_> oCean_: yes but with a different mac and ip address running down a bridge, it would double, right?
[19:07] <MaRLBoRo> i closed my window while ipod-convience is running
[19:07] <noe> hello
[19:08] <MaRLBoRo> now i got that error message
[19:08] <noe> espanish?
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> !es | noe
[19:08] <ubuntu_904> my ubuntu lags a lot.. its kind of slow I am running a P4 845GV mobo 1 GB ram... i removed compiz and compiz core.. but its still kind of lagging a little slow.. can i make it fast by any chance
[19:08] <jtaby_> Hey, I'm trying to setup my ubuntu server so that I can ssh into it from my mac w/o having to type in a password everytime. I appended my id_rsa.pub to authorized_keys, but it didn't work
[19:08] <Trek> can someone send me the informational ! message to PM about firewalls?
[19:08] <jtaby_> any ideas?
[19:09] <hema> i want to know how i can stop asking pw
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> ubuntu_904, add RAM...
[19:09] <oCean_> user_: interface bonding is normally done using 2 (or more) physical interfaces. Modes being loadbalanced, failover, teaming etc.
[19:09] <Trek> hema, specifically what are you looking to do other than stop asking for password?
[19:09] <Roasted> hey guys - do you guys know if theres a way I can integrate skype with pidgin? I'd rather use my skype account within pidgin if possible.
[19:09] <ubuntu_904> ZykoticK9: is it only a ram issue
[19:09] <Trek> !firewall > Trek
[19:09] <oCean_> user_: since i'm not sure where the limit is set, i don't know whether 2 macs on 1 physical interface would render double speed
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> ubuntu_904, perhaps not - but i thought "get a better computer" would be rude ;)
[19:10] <hema> when opnning parttion
[19:10] <ubuntu_904> or something else cause on system monitor its showing only 16% used by programs and memory
[19:10] <ubuntu_904> cache*
[19:10] <Trek> ubuntu_904, mind filling me in via PM about your issue?  maybe I can help
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> ubuntu_904, you might want to try Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
[19:11] <Trek> hema: what exactly do you mean "when opening partition"?  and what version of ubuntu
[19:11] <hema> 9.10
[19:12] <ubuntu_904> my CPU is 100% in use
[19:12] <hcook> so, before going to ubuntu 9.10 (and probaby more importantly firefox 3.5) firefox had tools->clear private data, which would let me remove, say, all my authenticated sessions without messing with cookies or history. that seems to be gone now...i've looked through preferences and everything and can't find it. is there a way to do that now?
[19:12] <CAPcap> I need some help with Empathy. Or my Keyring. i dont know which. I changed my password, then logged out and back in. Now my Yahoo acct is deleted from Empathy and when I try to create a new one a box talkinf about my keyring pops up my password doesnt work in it and neither does my old one. HELP!
[19:12] <JoeSomebody> pretty cool new samba didnt wipe out my conf !!!
[19:13] <capon> hi all, I am trying to enable networking on my laptop (using ubuntu) nut it doesn't work, even if I click on the network button it doesnt find anything, the buttons are grey!!
[19:13] <JoeSomebody> how do i change my default boot OS, this ubuntu karmic has xp as well
[19:13] <tiagotiago> ok, i dunno what else to do, i've tried using the makefile from a previous version, following all the instructions, i installed the qmake thing, but i still got nothing, still clueless,  how do i get qjoypad 4.0 ( http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/#download ) installed and working in my system?
[19:13] <capon> ps. I reinstalled ubuntu but same problem
[19:14] <Wipster> Anyong know about livecd 'remastering' the help docs are not helping atm, I know what I wana do but cant work out the steps atm
[19:14] <Trek> capon, what wifi carrd do you have?
[19:14] <capon> alfa
[19:14] <hcook> JoeSomebody: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[19:14] <capon> Trek, well I'm on a vaio, but even the one in the laptop doesnt work
[19:15] <JoeSomebody> hcook, thx
[19:15] <ZykoticK9> JoeSomebody, those Grub instructions DO NOT apply to 9.10 BTW
[19:15] <capon> can anybody  tell me commands to use to manually start wireless connection?
[19:15] <JoeSomebody> how do i check which grub i got ? (i think its the new one)
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> JoeSomebody, did you clean install 9.10?
[19:16] <JoeSomebody> yes
[19:16] <CAPcap> then u have grub 2
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> JoeSomebody, they you have grub 2
[19:16] <JoeSomebody> ok
[19:16] <JoeSomebody> then i need a new link for help
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | JoeSomebody
[19:17] <capon> so?
[19:18]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[19:18] <Trek> capon, i understand that, i was asking to figure out what wifi card you were using
[19:18] <Trek> capon, okay for me to PM you?
[19:18] <capon> yes olz
[19:18] <capon> plz
[19:19] <vexu> so some how i erased /etc/apt/source.list !?!
[19:19] <vexu> im running 9.04 and anyone tell me an easy way to get this back to like it was a fresh install?
[19:19] <JoeSomebody> hmm, i have to learn all about grub 2 just to change my default boot ?
[19:20] <Windopain> how can i share desktop for remote connections/presentation w/ ubuntu?  i used teamviewer w/ windows in the past
[19:20] <defrysk> vexu, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[19:21] <racquad> hi guys, I have just installed 9.10 server, but it keeps changings the screen resolution. I want a plai text resolution. How can I do it?
[19:22] <vexu> defrysk, is this so i can create my own and put it there?
[19:22] <defrysk> vexu, it generates a sources.list for you
[19:22] <ardchoille> I just did a typo in bash (Karmic) and this was returned: "No command 'mam' found, but there are 17 similar ones"  How do I see the "similar ones"?
[19:22] <enoch> hi all, im haveing  a problem with iwlagn and network manager
[19:22] <vexu> nice thank you
[19:22] <enoch> can someone help me?
[19:22] <defrysk> just follow the instructions
[19:23] <kenster> hello
[19:23] <nvme> is it possible for two users to be on the same VNC desktop (with one user as view only)?
[19:24] <ulb> does anybody here know about/run tomato? I am wondering what 'the best' tomato compatible wifi router for under $75 might be?
[19:24] <llutz> ulb: there's no "best", but tomato runs fine on wrt54gl
[19:24] <wm_> nvme: sure
[19:25] <ulb> I knwo...just thinking best "value"
[19:25] <nvme> wm_, nvm got it figured
[19:25] <defrysk> cheapest is usually best value
[19:25] <kenster> anyone know how to fix the login bug in empathy
[19:25] <wm_> i found some router that would run it, online , for $20 or so... i was going to order 5 ! i dont remember url anymore
[19:25] <ulb> wrt54gl is $59 locally
[19:25] <wm_> i read about it in the Tomato forums
[19:25] <ulb> buffalo rounters even more
[19:26] <Runeg> I'm thinking of hooking up a DAS via eSATA to a Ubuntu workstation. How is eSata connectivity/driver/usibility in Ubuntu?
[19:26] <mkjackson> hey folks, so I migrated over to ubuntu 9.10 (ati in tow) and now for some reason I can't switch workspaces... (?)  anyone seen this before?
[19:27] <Edgan> Runeg: I have never had a problem with it in Linux. It is just like another sata port
[19:27] <hiexpo> hello all
[19:27] <vbajic> hey guys. i got a little issue with ubuntu and skype: i cannot bring up my self-video on screen. any clues, or do i run dtrace on this bitch?
[19:28] <wm_> i didnt know dtrace worked in non solaris land
[19:28] <vbajic> ya, there's ports for mac and linux
[19:28] <wm_> do you get any video at all?  are you in a dark room?  what kind of camera?
[19:28] <VCoolio> mkjackson: you mean keybinding doesn't work or also clicking the pager doesn't do it? Did you enable advanced video settings or what is it in the last tab in appearance settings?
[19:29] <vbajic> wm_: others see video from me. if i use luvcview, my camera displays my fat-ass correctly
[19:29] <vbajic> wm_: build-in laptop webcam
[19:29] <JoeSomebody> i hope someone is going to help me , i am going to run update-grub without a clue ...
[19:29] <mkjackson> VCoolio: everything else works but when I turn off desktop cube it seems to refuse to shift over
[19:30] <hiexpo> i use cheese
[19:30] <Roasted> hey guys - do you guys know if theres a way I can integrate skype with pidgin? I'd rather use my skype account within pidgin if possible.
[19:30] <sdbinwiiexe> How can I set grub to boot into ubuntu automatically, without waiting for 10 seconds?
[19:30] <vbajic> no darkroom, just saudi arabia, but there's no women behind me right now, so the image should not be all black
[19:30] <mkjackson> VCoolio: but with cube on it runs slow as hell thanks to ATI not caring much for us Linux boys
[19:30] <VCoolio> mkjackson: did you enable some other workspace shifter plugin in compiz besides the cube?
[19:30] <eremite> mkjackson, are you saying that when compiz is off you cant "slide" windows to the next virtual desktop?  That's normal.  Right click the title bar of the app and choose a workspace.
[19:30] <Edgan> sdbinwiiexe: change the timeout in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:31] <wm_> do you see a dark box when you try to test out the video camera, in skype test call ?
[19:31] <JoeSomebody> Generating grub.cfg ...
[19:31] <capon> hi all, where do I get a specific driver:  iwl3945 for wireless?
[19:31] <JoeSomebody> and then what?
[19:31] <mkjackson> VCoolio: no no, I can put windows in the other workspaces fine but if I try to switch to them it doesn't shift over
[19:31] <Windopain> how do i use the desktop cube in kde?  i enabled it but i can't find anywhere to setup the corners for compositioning
[19:31] <mkjackson> VCoolio: I'm gonna tinker a bit
[19:32] <vbajic> Windopain: control+alt+shift+f1
[19:32] <guntbert> capon: thats included by default - should be at least
[19:32] <vbajic> that's all you will ever need.
[19:32] <VCoolio> mkjackson: there are more shift plugins, ring and simple and another one; try those
[19:32] <eremite> mkjackson, that's absolutly normal.  Its been like that since day one.  You need to have compiz on for the effects.  Any animation si an effect, and is based on compiz's engine.
[19:32] <cptmorgan> im running ubuntu 8.04 server and i setup a bind server. Thing is the name server im putting in /etc/resolv.conf which is 127.0.0.1 is being ignored. its like my dns settings are still being retrieved through dhcp and storing them somewhere else
[19:32] <ardchoille> Windopain: wyou really need to ask in #kubuntu
[19:32] <racquad> hi guys, I have just installed 9.10 server, but it keeps changings the screen resolution. I want a plai text resolution. How can I do it?
[19:32] <JoeSomebody> knock knock
[19:32] <capon> guntbert, my wireless donesnt work!!
[19:32] <Windopain> vbajic: tty1, for what reason?
[19:33] <capon> guntbert, it doesnt enable
[19:33] <vbajic> people don't read the manual, do they?
[19:33] <capon> guntbert, it's grey!
[19:33] <eremite> racquad, what do you mean it keeps changing screen resolutions?  WHEN does it change?  What do you do that make sit change, if anything??
[19:33] <vbajic> Windopain: cuz you don't need compbiz
[19:33] <Windopain> ardchoille: thanks for the suggestion.
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> racquad, server is ONLY terminal, no GUI - how is it changing resolution?
[19:33] <vbajic> in the beginning was the command line....
[19:33] <Windopain> vbajic: ahh, so you're suggesting i don't use what i want to use, eh?
[19:33] <Windopain> sometimes i think the goal of linux help channels becomes warding off newcomers to the os...
[19:34] <Windopain> the goal of many users in the channel, at least
[19:34] <racquad> eremite, it changes after boot. it still textmode, but with a different resolution rather than the 80x25
[19:34] <guntbert> capon: I guessed as much, try sudo modprobe iwl3945 please
[19:34] <racquad> ZykoticK9, I don't know. As I said, it keeps under textmode, but not 80x25
[19:34] <eremite> Windopain, just looking at the ammount of people in here should tell the new linux user just how easy it is to use linux.
[19:35] <sdbinwiiexe> Edgan: it says I'm trying to save on a read-only disk
[19:35] <ZykoticK9> racquad, you might want to ask the same question in the server channel.  good luck.
[19:35] <vbajic> Windopain: the learning curve for unix has always been steep. you're better off in the command line
[19:35] <JoeSomebody> Generating grub.cfg ... and then what?
[19:35] <vbajic> without compbiz and bling bling
[19:35] <JoeSomebody> do i edit that file?
[19:35] <racquad> ZykoticK9, I tried, but no answer came from there.
[19:35] <vbajic> why are you using linux anyway?
[19:35] <Windopain> eremite: from one day of use i have 20+ unresolved issues - easy?
[19:35] <wladek> UBUNTU is the best linux
[19:35] <guntbert> !ot
[19:35] <eremite> Windopain, I have more.  That's my exact point.
[19:35] <vexu> how would i got about restoreing /etc/apt/sources.list for ubuntu 9.04?
[19:36] <vexu> with out a fresh install
[19:36] <Windopain> eremite: excuse me for being a bit slow ;)
[19:36] <Dawgmatix> I am trying to setup a baseline ubuntu virtual machine whcih I can clone as desired. Any pointers on how to setup things so that when the first time it boots up it creates ssh keys / adds some users ...
[19:36] <hwilde> vexu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1142603
[19:36] <capon> guntbert, nothing hapend
[19:36] <eremite> Windopain, no problem.  It's expected with Windows in your name ;)
[19:36] <Windopain> ok, so it's not *easy* :) fair enough.   it is fun, however.
[19:36] <cptmorgan> im running ubuntu 8.04 server and i setup a bind server. Thing is the name server im putting in /etc/resolv.conf which is 127.0.0.1 is being ignored. its like my dns settings are still being retrieved through dhcp and storing them somewhere else. im using /etc/network/interfaces and specifying static ips. where are the dns numbers getting set from?
[19:36] <JoeSomebody> DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE This is the main Grub 2 file. It "replaces" Grub Legacy's /boot/grub/menu.lst. This file contains the Grub menu instructions. Unlike Grub Legacy's menu.lst file, grub.cfg is NOT MEANT TO BE EDITED!!!
[19:36] <mkjackson> VCoolio: so I decided to go into System->Appearance and set it to normal and all restored back to normal...  there must have been something in the mix messing everything else up...
[19:36] <Windopain> eremite: well, the windo in my name refers to a drug, actually, but the expectation should be the same.
[19:37] <JoeSomebody> how can i edit a file if i cant edit a file?
[19:37] <capon> guntbert, I can not enable Wirelss
[19:37] <eremite> JoeSomebody, magic?
[19:37] <capon> guntbert, It's grey
[19:37] <vbajic> cptmorgan: yar, mataey, avast ye self and go plunder  ye local library and barns and noble: you're looking for that rotten meat called "O'Reilly"
[19:37] <guntbert> capon: good - that means no error, now please look at the output of lsmod | grep iwl (don't paste it here, use !pastebin if you want)
[19:37] <JoeSomebody> apparently
[19:37] <Windopain> is there a remote desktop feature/app for linux?
[19:38] <VCoolio> mkjackson: cool; remember to export your current and working compiz settings; can be useful if it gets screwed again
[19:38] <vbajic> Windopain: yes.
[19:38] <vbajic> it's called ssh
[19:38] <hwilde> cptmorgan, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf   request domain-name-servers
[19:38] <eremite> Windopain, system > preferences > remote
[19:38] <vexu> that wasnt it thanks for the input
[19:38] <Windopain> vbabiy: for the gui?
[19:38] <capon> guntbert, http://pastebin.com/m64cc0b65
[19:38] <theDex> aloah
[19:38] <Jeruvy> Windopain: gnome uses vnc out of the box. you can also use vinagre for other protocols
[19:38] <hwilde> Windopain, I like freenx I think it's the fastest.
[19:38] <vexu> im thinking it would be easer to do a fresh install
[19:38] <vbajic> hwilde: 1000 usd says he hasn't edited /etc/network/interfaces to edit out dhcp
[19:39] <vexu> maybe i will try 9.10
[19:39] <vexu> anyone hear anything good about this?
[19:39] <vbabiy> Windopain, what?
[19:39] <hwilde> vbajic, fair enough but editing dhclient to not request dns would also work
[19:39] <vbajic> wtf
[19:39] <JoeSomebody> can someone help me please to do this one simple thing?
[19:39] <sdbinwiiexe> How can I edit my grub configuration file?, it says i'm saving to a read-only disk.
[19:39] <hwilde> vexu, I just linked you to a 9.04 sources.list didn't you look?
[19:39] <Windopain> vbabiy: sorry, wrong nick
[19:39] <vbajic> hwilde: that's the stupid way
[19:39] <vbajic> especially on a dns server
[19:39] <salat_> hey...got some problems to connect two computers (ubuntu on the one, sysrescuecd on the other -both livecds) now i type "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" and "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" on the other machine...but if i try to ping the corresponding ip i get no answer=C what is my problem?
[19:39] <hwilde> vbajic, not if he is hardcoding resolv.conf and doesn't want it edited.
[19:39] <vbajic> there's a right way and there's a wrong way.
[19:40] <JoeSomebody> at least tell me why you wont help me then
[19:40] <hiexpo> JoeSomebody, - what ya need help with
[19:40] <Urda> vbajic: like using vi vs emacs :D
[19:40] <guntbert> capon: thats the same I have - and it works out of the box - is there a hardware switch?
[19:40] <JoeSomebody> change default boot OS
[19:40] <vbajic> Urda: no, there's no issue there. vi ftw
[19:40] <JoeSomebody> shoudl be easy
[19:40] <tal_> I'm trying to install the minimal edition, but apparently all the mirrors are bad, I can't connect to any of them, help!
[19:40] <vbajic> down with the cult of emacs
[19:40] <Urda> vbajic: a friend indeed :D
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[19:40] <cptmorgan> hwilde: your the man... thx
[19:40] <JoeSomebody> SHOULD BE EASY
[19:40] <Dawgmatix> hey no one say anything against emacs :)
[19:40] <theDex> aloah the LaptopTestingTeam wiki page i want to edit says #DO NOT EDIT THIS PAGE , copy its contents and save it there
[19:40] <vbajic> HeavenRaiser: #gnaa
[19:40] <cptmorgan> you're*
[19:40] <bja> EDITOR WAR!!!!!
[19:41] <Urda> VI FTW
[19:41] <theDex> could somebody that has done such once query me for some help?
[19:41] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, /etc/default/grub     GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[19:41] <shizzle> muahahaha
[19:41] <vbajic> nani?
[19:41] <JoeSomebody> it  says do not edit
[19:41] <vbajic> fo shizzle
[19:41] <shizzle> haha
[19:41] <JoeSomebody> what the frack do i edit /change then?
[19:41] <capon> guntbert, http://pastebin.com/m6ecee05b
[19:41] <vbajic> JoeSomebody: xp, vista or 7 ?
[19:41] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, I just told you.
[19:42] <capon> guntbert, yes there is an hardware swich, and it's on
[19:42] <vexu> hwilde- i checked it out! but i must be misunderstanding something because i tryed adding someting to this list and it somehow all got erased
[19:42] <hwilde> vexu, just copy and paste the sources.list from that website dude
[19:42] <vbajic> do you guys get a lot of this? people who refuse to rtfm?
[19:42] <tal_> #gnaa
[19:42] <capon> guntbert, I am using an alfa network too and it has the same problem... :(
[19:42] <salat_> would someone with network knowledge query me plz?
[19:42] <vexu> i tryed that still nothing
[19:42] <vbajic> tal_: rob malda owns my soul
[19:43] <sdbinwiiexe> how can i edit my grub.cfg?
[19:43] <vexu> my update and synaptic gives error
[19:43] <guntbert> capon: you see you do have the driver :) - please open a terminal and type iwlist scan
[19:43] <hwilde> vexu, sudo pastebinit -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:43] <Dawgmatix> vbajic - with the attention span getting shorter people dont even read the net lingo manual to find out what rtfm means
[19:43] <JoeSomebody> hwilde, thanks, but dotn know the number
[19:43] <guntbert> !pm | salat_
[19:43] <kyanardag_> i accidenttally deleted /boot folder.. how can i generate vmlinuz and initrd files..
[19:43] <vexu> this is there error   E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[19:43] <vexu> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[19:43] <vexu> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[19:43] <vexu> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[19:43] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, look in your grub cfg it starts at 0 then 1 2 3 4 etc, or when you boot count down the list
[19:43] <FloodBot1> vexu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Pici> tal_, vbajic This is a support channel, please stay on topic
[19:43] <JoeSomebody> who many things are in the 9.04 default menu?
[19:43] <sdbinwiiexe> my grub.cfg says it's read-only when i try to edit it
[19:43] <JoeSomebody> HOW many things are in the 9.04 default menu?
[19:43] <vbajic> Dawgmatix: so, why is ubuntu catering to them?
[19:44] <hwilde> vexu, pastebinit please.
[19:44] <JoeSomebody> HOW many things are in the 9.10  default menu?
[19:44] <JoeSomebody> grrrr
[19:44] <JoeSomebody> i might as well give up
[19:44] <JoeSomebody> it aint my day
[19:44] <FloodBot1> JoeSomebody: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <hwilde> JoeSomebody,  pastebin your grub.cfg
[19:44] <tal_> Anyone?
[19:44] <JoeSomebody> hwilde, i dont want to BOOT!
[19:44] <capon> guntbert, what could it be?
[19:45] <vbajic> he wants to LIVE
[19:45] <JoeSomebody> HOW many things are in the 9.10  default menu?
[19:45] <vbajic> JoeSomebody: seriously, go back to windows
[19:45] <hwilde> !ot > vbajic
[19:45] <Pici> vbajic: That is not needed here. Please stop.
[19:45] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, pastebin your grub.cfg file now.
[19:45] <guntbert> capon: any results from iwlist scan?
[19:45] <tal_> !ot
[19:45] <capon> guntbert, http://pastebin.com/m6ecee05b
[19:45] <vexu> sorry not sure what pastebinit is?
[19:45] <capon> no
[19:45] <vbajic> what's not needed here?
[19:45] <capon> guntbert, no
[19:45] <hwilde> vexu, sudo pastebinit -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:45] <Pici> !guidelines > vbajic
[19:45] <JoeSomebody> yeah thats right tell everybody to go back to windows
[19:45] <sdbinwiiexe> when i try to save my grub.cfg after editing, i get "You are trying to save the file on a read-only disk." Error
[19:45] <vbajic> telling people that if they can't hack it they should go back to windows?
[19:46] <JoeSomebody> way to grow the community asshole
[19:46] <Pici> JoeSomebody: Drop it.
[19:46] <vbajic> lol
[19:46] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, last time I will ask you,   pastebin your grub.cfg
[19:46] <vbajic> "communicty"
[19:46] <JoeSomebody> ok sorry
[19:46] <capon> guntbert, when i press on the right button on network ( on the left top side of the screen) the networking is enabled, nut it's not possiblet to enable the wireless
[19:46] <theDex> is there somebody here that did edits to the ubuntu wiki?
[19:46] <guntbert> capon: strange - can you exclude a hardware problem on the card?
[19:47] <vexu> said that command not found
[19:47] <capon> yes
[19:47] <capon> guntbert, yes, but nothing
[19:47] <tal_> So no-one here has installed ubuntu before?
[19:47] <Pici> theDex: Do you have a question about the wiki?
[19:47] <theDex> ## DO NOT EDIT this page directly, copy its content to a new page and save it there!
[19:47] <theDex> how will that ever be found again then?
[19:47] <JoeSomebody> i simply wanted to know how many things are in the menu, without rebooting so i can fix it
[19:47] <wm_> this channel is amazing
[19:47] <Pici> theDex: What page?
[19:47] <JoeSomebody> that file does not tell me
[19:47] <cptmorgan> hwilde: actually wouldnt dhclient only be used if i was retrieving a ip adress from dhcp? im setting the interfaces statically. Ive never used dhcp and the server i put in /etc/resolv.conf gets ignored.
[19:47] <theDex> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/SamsungN510
[19:47] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, pastebin your grub.cfg
[19:48] <wm_> JoeSomebody: so pastebin in your grub.cfg and menu.lst
[19:48] <JoeSomebody> another fiel with the menu i can read?
[19:48] <guntbert> capon: at the moment I can only suggest you try with different live CDs
[19:48] <capon> guntbert, ok
[19:48] <theDex> i got one of those and found some minor bugs and fixed em
[19:48] <theDex> i thought i could share
[19:48] <CAPcap> I need help now. If i cant get my problem fixed in 10 minutes im switching to fedora. I changed my password, now when i open empathy my old accts are gona and when i try yto put in a new acct it wants to access my keyring. neither my old password or new access my keyring. if i deny it access it wont let add accts
[19:48] <hwilde> vexu, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:48] <capon> guntbert, thanks by the way :D
[19:48] <guntbert> capon: np - and Good luck :-)
[19:48] <capon> guntbert, ;)
[19:49] <vexu> that error still comes up!
[19:49] <Dawgmatix> I am trying to setup a baseline virtual machine whcih I can clone as desired. Any pointers on how to setup things so that when the first time it boots up it creates ssh keys / adds some users / does some other initialization ...
[19:49] <JoeSomebody> http://pastebin.com/m5f132efc and where is menu?
[19:50] <Windopain> accidentally opened a .vdi w/ kwrite by clicking on- 5.8 GB memory used w/ 7 GB of swap.  closed kWrite but memory is not freeing up.  raid0 is active; is there a way i can check HD performance?  read/write speeds, general speed, etc?  similar to hdtach for win?
[19:50] <vexu> i somehow erased that whole page /etc/apt/source.list
[19:50] <bja> Dawgmatix, you could put an initi script that deletes itself afterwards
[19:50] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, locate menu.lst
[19:50] <grub_booter> hi - don't really get this, but i've lost the ability to copy/paste with my middle mouse button on ubuntu 9.04 - issue occurred after a reboot about a week or two back - been driving me nuts :-) - do you guys have any clues as to what's going on there?
[19:50] <phong_> hi everyone
[19:50] <outer_space> how does super-user not have permission to put a file someplace? sudo echo "" > ms_error.txt  "bash: ms_error.txt: Permission denied"
[19:50] <Dawgmatix> i see bja, i was wondering if there are any inbuilt mechanisms in ubuntu
[19:50] <Dawgmatix> because first time init would be a common usecase i would think
[19:50] <tal_> CAPcap: go to your home folder, press ctrl-h so hidden files show, and look either for a folder called keyrings (am I right...not sure) or a file called gnome2keyring (or something like that)
[19:50] <phong_> how to list port usage?
[19:51] <theDex> Pici: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/SamsungN510, i found some bugs on my n510 that aren't mentioned
[19:51] <MrUnix> Spellcheck doesn't work in Abiword. Does anyone know how to enable it?
[19:51] <hwilde> phong_, netstat
[19:51] <JoeSomebody> i probably should go back to windows
[19:51] <JoeSomebody> i dont have one
[19:51] <ZykoticK9> Windopain, re-hd test check out the "hdparm" program
[19:51] <bja> Dawgmatix, the way first time init usually works if that it checks a file in /etc to see if it's supposed to run
[19:51] <bja> and just runs everytime with at least that check
[19:51] <theDex> Pici: and spent lots of time fixing em, so i thought i could share
[19:51] <JoeSomebody> where is supposed to be?
[19:51] <acicula> menu.lst is old grub
[19:51] <guntbert> outer_space: the elevated permission don't extend to the redirection - I try to remember the correct command
[19:51] <JoeSomebody> its grub2, am i  even supposed to have one?
[19:51] <Windopain> how do you read load averages?  3.21, 3.97, 2.75
[19:51] <acicula> JoeSomebody: no you dont have a menu.lst with grub2
[19:51] <phong_> how to list specific port number range open?
[19:52] <wm_> what does grub2 use instead ?
[19:52] <tal_> Trying to install minimal, all the mirrors appear to be bad, what's wrong?
[19:52] <CAPcap> tal_ no folder called that
[19:52] <JoeSomebody> then how can i read my menu? ONLY by rebooting?
[19:52] <Dawgmatix> okay bja, looking into this
[19:52] <acicula> tal_: your download?
[19:52] <ardchoille> outer_space: echo blah  sudo tee -a file
[19:52] <ardchoille> outer_space: echo blah | sudo tee -a file
[19:52] <Windopain> ZykoticK9: thx
[19:52] <phong_> netstat  port-port ?
[19:52] <tal_> acicula: just in the install
[19:52] <wm_> tal_: are you connected to the internet
[19:52] <tal_> wm_: Yeah, tried both wlan0 and eth0
[19:53] <tal_> wm_ Neither work
[19:53] <CAPcap> tal_ i see mission control which is whats asking for my keyring
[19:53] <wm_> tal_: is your machine doing dns lookups?
[19:53] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, you could have changed GRUB_DEFAULT to 1 2 3 4 etc and tested it by now instead you are here wasting time
[19:53] <JoeSomebody> boot stuff shoudl be easier, every new user potentially needs to go there
[19:53] <ardchoille> outer_space: so it would be: echo "" | sudo tee -a ms_error.txt
[19:53] <tal_> wm_: No idea, how would I check that?
[19:53] <Pici> theDex: I think that was there for the person who intially created that page from a template, I think you can ignore it.
[19:53] <JoeSomebody> i didnt want to reboot
[19:53] <bja> Dawgmatix, I'm not familiar with exactly how you'd accomplish this in ubuntu, but redhat/fedora had a firstboot config file in /etc/sysconfig
[19:53] <theDex> Pici: should i remove that line?
[19:53] <tal_> CAPcap go to the private chat window
[19:54] <wm_> wm_: go to a different terminal, ( control-alt-5 for example ) , type:  ping 4.2.2.2   then ping www.ubuntu.com then ping google.com
[19:54] <bja> Dawgmatix,  there was a variable in the firstboot file that was set to True once it had completed
[19:54] <Pici> theDex: I think that would be fine.
[19:54] <theDex> Pici: great, thanks for your help
[19:54] <hwilde> JoeSomebody,  run   "ls -l /etc/grub.d/"   and pastebin the output please
[19:54] <bja> Dawgmatix, then the init script firstboot ran every time you came into runlevel 3 or 5 and checked to see if the variable was False, and if it did, it did some configuration
[19:55] <bja> Dawgmatix, even if ubuntu doesn't have that inbuilt facility, it's not particularly difficult to simulate
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> Windopain, re-load average the numbers correspond to load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes
[19:55] <Guest11451> alguien habla castellano?
[19:55] <acicula> Guest41714: language?
[19:56] <tal_> wm_ Was that last message to me?
[19:56] <vikasap> I am not able to find an pages for the file-io system calls. Do I need to install something ?
[19:56] <bombel> Does anyone know how to enable window rendering while resize the window?
[19:56] <vikasap> *man pages
[19:56] <JoeSomebody> http://pastebin.com/m630e0cec
[19:56] <acicula> vikasap: dev man pages
[19:56] <Windopain> does a load avg of 2 indicate 2 processors loaded at 100?
[19:56] <Windopain> 100% even
[19:56] <acicula> Windopain: no, load indexes go way higher then that
[19:56] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, pastebin that file that says 40_custom
[19:57] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, I think your windows entries will be in there
[19:57] <Windopain> acicula: just wondering what the actual number means now that i understand the time intervals
[19:57] <hwilde> it's a made up number.  should be below 1
[19:57] <Windopain> if a box 1/ only 1 proc is loaded 100%, and a box w/ 2 proc is loaded 100%, would the load avgs be the same?
[19:57] <acicula> Windopain: im sure its properly documented somewhere
[19:57] <Windopain> hwilde: ahh
[19:57] <Windopain> ok, it's not common knowledge tho
[19:58] <hwilde> Windopain, if you get up around 3 it will become unresponsive
[19:58] <linxeh> Windopain: load avgs are the number of jobs, not cpu usage
[19:58] <JoeSomebody> bty - i read many pages from google, and got nowhere, so i asked in here, i didnt mean to start anybody up
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> Windopain, "In short it is the average sum of the number of processes waiting in the run-queue plus the number currently executing over 1, 5, and 15 minute time periods"
[19:58] <dtcrshr> hi fellas, any simple trick to get sound on youtube on 9.10 ?
[19:58] <Windopain> ZykoticK9 thanks, i'll copy that into my notes
[19:58] <linxeh> Windopain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing) - this explains it
[19:59] <Dawgmatix> dtcrshr - youtube just launched a html5 beta, so you can switch to the html5 canvas
[19:59] <vikasap> acicula: Thanks , got that
[19:59] <duffydack> dtcrshr, are you using 64bit?
[19:59] <dtcrshr> how do i do that?
[19:59] <dtcrshr> no, 32bit
[19:59] <dtcrshr> i got video just fine, and audio on other software
[19:59] <dtcrshr> video, mp3 and so on
[19:59] <dtcrshr> just flash content got no sound
[19:59] <JoeSomebody> hwilde, not in there
[19:59] <JoeSomebody> cummom you guys must know on a default karmic , how many entries?
[19:59] <w3b4> opa
[19:59] <JoeSomebody> in the boot menu?
[20:00] <BlessJah> i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop from kubuntu 9.04
[20:00] <Windopain> how can i get a list of all hds in the system?  and all mounted hds in the system
[20:00] <JoeSomebody> easy question for you guys , is it not? :)
[20:00] <ikonia> Windopain: sudo fdisk -l shows it, and mount shows all mounted
[20:00] <BlessJah> file can be named similar (kde4.desktop or whatever), could someone pastebin it?
[20:00] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me how to make zenmap check all my ip addresses on my network to basicly scan my whole network with out haveing to change the addresses in zenmap
[20:00] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, this explains how to add windows to your grub menu:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200513
[20:00] <JoeSomebody> i know i want the last entry
[20:00] <JoeSomebody> the windows one
[20:01] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: you want it to what ?
[20:01] <JoeSomebody> i just don't know its freakin number!
[20:01] <BlessJah> i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop from kubuntu 9.04
[20:01] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: count it - starting from 0
[20:01] <acicula> jgcampbell300: it has a specific module for that iirc
[20:01] <hwilde> JoeSomebody, reboot and count.  it starts at zero.  goodbye
[20:01] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: so 0 is the first,
[20:01] <JoeSomebody> you guys must know on a default karmic , how many entries?
[20:01] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: look in your grub config
[20:01] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: default depends on each users system
[20:02] <jgcampbell300> acicula: hmm tell me more please
[20:02] <vikasap> acicula: Need to get the glibc-doc as well . I think
[20:02] <BlessJah> i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop from kubuntu 9.04, could someone pastebin it?
[20:02] <JoeSomebody> i installed 1 thing, and got about 6 things in my menu
[20:03] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: what did you install to get additional entries ?
[20:03] <JoeSomebody> so my confusion should be understandable
[20:03] <acicula> vikasap: maybe, but iirc there are no man pages in there, cant hurt to check :)
[20:03] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: there is nothing confusing, count them starting at 0
[20:03] <hwilde> ikonia, I have been telling him that for half an hour now
[20:03] <JoeSomebody> i had xp, then i put karmic, and the menu has liek 6 or 7 things ion there
[20:03] <IdleOne> I have lost my right click menu and Icons on my desktop, metacity --replace had no effect. Any suggestions?
[20:03] <ikonia> hwilde: it will end soon
[20:03] <alesan> hi how do I install firefox 3.6?
[20:03] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: yes, a memtest, a failsafe, and on occasion kernel updates may apply an additional entry
[20:03] <alesan> I have ubuntu 9.1
[20:04] <Windopain> hmmm so hdparm -i /dev/sda1 doesn't seem to tell me much about read/write speeds
[20:04] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: if there are some you don't want/need you can delete them
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> so i figured you know my menu, i'l ask here
[20:04] <llutz> Windopain: hdparm -tT /dev/sda1
[20:04] <acicula> jgcampbell300: i wouldnt know without digging back into the zenoss docs, best to have a looksie yourself
[20:04] <Windopain> how about this... is there a way to display the speed files are being copied at while they are being copied?  i've seen this in other versions of linux and also in win7
[20:04] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: you've been told the answer
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> ikonia, thak you for all that i understand much better
[20:05] <JoeSomebody> hwilde, thank you too
[20:05] <Welshy-Rob> hi i would like to create a slide show of pictures for my desktop background (ubuntu 9.10) ive looked at a script on the fourm i am just a bit stuck at this step "make the script executable: chmod u+x name_of_script" could someone explain what it is please?
[20:05] <hwilde> Welshy-Rob, that says to change the permissions of the script so it is +x which is executable
[20:05] <Curuy>  
[20:05] <IdleOne> Welshy-Rob: run that command replacing name_of_script with the actual name
[20:06] <Welshy-Rob> IdleOne, in terminal?
[20:06] <IdleOne> Welshy-Rob: you will need to cd to the dir where you saved the script, yes in terminal
[20:06] <alesan> so my understanding is that ubuntu does not support firefox 3.6?
[20:06] <alesan> yet
[20:07] <ikonia> alesan: it doesn't not supoprt it, it's just not packaged yet
[20:07] <wm_> im sure it will Really Really Soon.  there's nothing stopping you from downloading it
[20:07] <acicula> alesan: correct, ussually software revisions are not updated but just maintained for security updates
[20:07] <snarkster> can anyone tell me why teamspeak doesnt work at all.
[20:07] <snarkster> i cant hear or say anything
[20:07] <IdleOne> I have lost my right click menu and icons on my desktop, metacity --replace had no effect. Any suggestions?
[20:07] <Welshy-Rob> IdleOne, okay ill give it a go so i cd to my scrip and then type chmod u+x background ??
[20:07] <Jeruvy> alesan: I heard that 3.6 was going to be skipped by the mozilla team and they were going straight to 3.7
[20:07] <acicula> snarkster: teamspeak doesnt play well with other programs using sound
[20:07] <alesan> acicula, that's so bad, I could understand minor packages but come on, this is firefox...
[20:07] <snarkster> i can log into the server
[20:07] <ianto> Welshy-Rob:  Can you please check PM :)?
[20:07] <JoeSomebody> before i go, on behalf of us newbies, i humbly ask SOME of you to have more patience with us, you know who you are, we are already frustrated by windows, if you are too frustrated to be a helper, don't speak to us :)
[20:07] <klappi> snarkster: what version of teamspeak?
[20:07] <alesan> Jeruvy, firefcox 3.6 has been released yesterday go on the home page on mozilla.com
[20:08] <IdleOne> Welshy-Rob: chmod +x filename.
[20:08] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: people have patience with you#
[20:08] <snarkster> version 2.0.32.60
[20:08] <acicula> alesan: its a new version, so probably will be made available via backports, and is via ppa
[20:08] <Jeruvy> alesan: it was?  Ok I'll have a peek.
[20:08] <wm_> if you think #ubuntu is mean, try #centos someday.  those guys are jerks!
[20:08] <klappi> snarkster: how did you install and invoke teamspeak?
[20:08] <snarkster> ive installed aoss, but what is my sound device?
[20:08] <alesan> Jeruvy, it is 3.7 that will be scrapped ot go directly to 4.0
[20:08] <sdbinwiiexe> How do I make ubuntu prompt for my username on startup, instead f just the password?
[20:08] <acicula> snarkster: dsp
[20:08] <snarkster> from the menu
[20:08] <snarkster> its set to dsp
[20:08] <alesan> acicula, those words do not make much sense to the average Ubunut user.
[20:09] <snarkster> well im looking at it so i understood what he meant..
[20:09] <snarkster> Im thinking its some other config problem with me sound maybe
[20:09] <snarkster> ive never been able to get a mic working ever in my 7 years using linux.
[20:09] <acicula> snarkster: maybe some other programs are still using the alsa portion, that blocks the oss emu, you could try it with pulseaudio dsp emulation i think?
[20:10] <klappi> snarkster: hm i think i cant help you we are using ts3 and i uninstalled pulse audio sorry
[20:10] <snarkster> ok
[20:11] <user0303> does anyone know if the XEN virtual machine server is stable enough for regular use with say 9.10 ?
[20:11] <iceroot> user0303: the citrix-one`
[20:11] <snarkster> pulse audio already installed
[20:12] <Zesturian> Hello, how can I install all the dependencies of a package but not the package itself? I tried 'apt-get build-dep fwknop-server' but it doesn't include exim4 etc.
[20:12] <Lostinspace_46> Does anyone know how to set line spacing in gedit?
[20:12] <cool> df
[20:12] <snarkster> hmm from konsole running aoss teamspeak give seg fault
[20:13] <auli> hi, can anybody suggest where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu in (Ontario) Canada? Don't want the M$ mess :P
[20:13] <auli> preferably from a store instead of ordering online
[20:13] <snarkster> red 7 online
[20:13] <ikonia> auli: it's called MS and try using google or more appropaite channels, this channel is for ubuntu support
[20:13] <acicula> snarkster: use teamspeak.bin
[20:13] <acicula> teamspeak is a wrapper and doesnt work with a dsp emu iirc
[20:13] <auli> ikonia: apologies
[20:14] <Pici> auli: Try #ubuntu-ca the Canada team channel
[20:14] <snarkster> thank you
[20:14] <blitz__> hallo, someone knows a german ubuntu channel on freenode?
[20:14] <acicula> !de
[20:14] <Pici> blitz__: #ubuntu-de
[20:15] <blitz__> thx
[20:15] <blume> hello, i got a question
[20:15] <blume> I want to play my old  Playstation 1 Games on Ubuntu over "Psxe"
[20:15] <hema> i  neeed help
[20:15] <acicula> !ask | hema
[20:15] <hema> sorry
[20:16] <blume> But whenever i insert one of my old game-disc's the disc itself gets recognized as Audio-CD
[20:16] <hema> i wann t to stop authentication
[20:17] <hema> ?
[20:17] <acicula> authentication of what, you want to auto login a user?
[20:17] <blume> And this ends up in an error in "PSXE" with the message "It seems like it isnt a real Ps1 Disc" or similiar
[20:17] <hiexpo> hema, - authinication of what ?
[20:18] <Lostinspace_46> Does anyone know how to set line spacing in gedit?
[20:18] <zpertee> I want to have a program automatically start when a particular user logs in, but not for other users? In other words user specific startup programs
[20:18] <blume> I would appreciate any suggestion that may lead me to the solution :)
[20:18] <acicula> blume Startup applications ?
[20:18] <hema> when opening
[20:18] <hema> my parttion
[20:19] <erUSUL> zpertee: add it to users System>Prferences>init apps
[20:19] <blume> Not sure if you mean the Autorun-Window
[20:19] <acicula> blume: system->preferences->startup applications preferences
[20:19] <blume> and then ?
[20:20] <acicula> add whatever you want to run ?
[20:20] <bombel> Does anyone know how to enable window rendering while resize the window?
[20:20] <acicula> not sure if this affects just one user or all of them, but i guess just the one user you do it ass
[20:20] <acicula> *as
[20:20] <blume> umm, i think you missunderstood me :)
[20:20] <hwilde> bombel, disable fancy effect in appearance
[20:21] <hwilde> bombel, the transparent window resize rendering is a "feature"
[20:21] <adac> How can I change the computer name on command line?
[20:21] <hwilde> adac, man hostname
[20:21] <zleap> yeah man hostname
[20:21] <jgcampbell300> how do i search for a directory that has FreeNX installed in it ... i forgot where it is
[20:21] <guntbert> !hostname | adac
[20:21] <adac> k, thx gusy
[20:21] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, locate freenx
[20:21] <hema> fuck  all
[20:21] <blume> Lets say i insert an Playstation1 Game CD into my CD-Drive, then there is some kind of a pop-up and they cd gets recognized as Audio-CD
[20:21] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, or locate -i   to ignore case
[20:21] <jgcampbell300> thank you hwilde
[20:22] <hema> i will back to windows
[20:22] <acicula> blume: sorry condused you wioth zpertee
[20:22] <hwilde> hema, did you even ask a question?
[20:22] <guntbert> !language | hema
[20:22] <blume> yea thought so acicula :)
[20:22] <blume> Nevermind :)
[20:22] <jgcampbell300> hmm i am trying to find the client ... that found the server ... maybe i need to install the client again
[20:22] <hema> ubuntu
[20:22] <acicula> zpertee: see my previous answer to blume for auto starting a service
[20:23] <hema> ask me passord
[20:23] <hema> when opening folders
[20:23] <hema> or network
[20:23] <blume> and ?
[20:23] <hema> or terminal
[20:23] <blume> whats the matter hema :)
[20:23] <ardchoille> hema: you need touse your user password
[20:23] <BitWraith> how do I add a link to the windows desktop (/host/Documents and Settings/USER/Desktop) to the ubuntu desktop? will ln -s work for something that is on another partition?
[20:23] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, it's called  nxclient
[20:23] <jgcampbell300> ahh let me try that
[20:23] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[20:23] <ardchoille> hema: That same password you use to log in
[20:24] <blakkheim> BitWraith: why did you use wubi instead of a real installation?
[20:24] <hema> i wann t to stop it
[20:24] <jgcampbell300> ok i guess i dont have the client ... is there a command like sudo apt-get install nx client ?
[20:24] <rafytafy> can someone tell me how to add this URL to my repo list?  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:24] <ardchoille> hema: you want the system to stop asking you for a password?
[20:24] <BitWraith> blakkheim, because the machine I wanted to install on is very picky about which devices it will boot from, I didn't feel like struggling with it
[20:24] <hema> yes
[20:24] <mike8i8> Is there a way to remap keys without using xmodmap??
[20:24] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, yep
[20:24] <hwilde> !keytouch > mike8i8
[20:24] <theDex> Pici: do you have the muse to check my changes if they are compliant to the wiki standards?
[20:24] <ardchoille> hema: It's a security thing, it's helping keep your system secure
[20:25] <Like> :O
[20:25] <BitWraith> So far I have tried wubi on several boxes and it hasn't given me any trouble aside from a general ubuntu issue with one of the graphics cards
[20:25] <hema> i didn t need this security
[20:25] <Pici> theDex: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-doc , I'm a bit busy here at the moment.
[20:25] <theDex> ah okay
[20:25] <theDex> thanks
[20:25] <ardchoille> hema: if your computer is connected to the internet, you do need security
[20:25] <blakkheim> BitWraith: it is also running on top of a bad filesystem that gets fragmented and has slower disk i/o
[20:26] <hema> it s too boor
[20:26] <jgcampbell300> hmm guess i need to google and find the instructions to install Free NX on ubuntu 9.10
[20:26] <blume> boor ?
[20:26] <hema> every time ask me for password
[20:26] <ardchoille> hema: What is your native language?
[20:26] <mike8i8> Is there a way to remap keys without using xmodmap??
[20:26] <hema> english
[20:26] <blakkheim> ^ lol
[20:26] <ardchoille> :/
[20:27] <hwilde> mike8i8, read the message from ubottu about keytouch
[20:27] <acicula> jgcampbell300: likely there is a deb or repo on the freenx site
[20:27] <mike8i8> I had
[20:27] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, sudo apt-get install nxclient
[20:27] <blume> when does it exactly ask you for the password ?
[20:27] <hema> r u go  ?
[20:27] <blakkheim> hema: he asked because it sounds like english is not your first language, but you're saying it is?
[20:27] <ardchoille> blume: he means sudo/gksudo stuff
[20:27] <konman> rafytafy• how did you come up with this idea?
[20:27] <jgcampbell300> could not find package nxclient
[20:27] <mike8i8> I want to remap the <Esc> key to the <Ctl-{> COmbination
[20:27] <adac> guntbert, hwilde I changed both, /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts an I did log out, but still the terminal shows me the old hostname. Any ideas?
[20:27] <hwilde> hema, you can just login as root, but that is not recommended, because then your system will be insecure, and you will have similar problems to windows which is probably why you hate it in the first place
[20:28] <jgcampbell300> so my list dosnt have where its at ?
[20:28] <hwilde> adac, did you run the hostname command too ?
[20:28] <adac> hwilde, nope
[20:28] <hwilde> !find nxclient karmic
[20:28] <ardchoille> hema: I aksed because there are other channels in other languages and I thought you might be more comfortable in one of your native language
[20:28] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, hmm that is odd standby
[20:28] <hema> yes english dosn t my first language
[20:28] <blakkheim> aha
[20:28] <jgcampbell300> kk
[20:28] <ardchoille> hwilde: Please don't recommend logging in as root, that is not recommended or supported here
[20:28] <hema> i m now under stand
[20:28] <cptmorgan> im using static network settings and /etc/resolv.conf has no effect on my name servers. I can delete the file and everything still resolves. where is the nameserver file hiding?
[20:29] <Like> !D
[20:29] <rafytafy> konman: I have been browsing forum and a few other people have this problem of 64bit lockups
[20:29] <Like> :O
[20:29] <hema> thank you all
[20:29] <rafytafy> something to do with the 2.6.31-14 and up kernel
[20:29] <guntbert> Like:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:29] <hwilde> ardchoille, I said it wasn't recommended.  get off my case
[20:29] <MFriedman> how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[20:29] <hema> sorry for all
[20:29] <hema> i was  ugly
[20:29] <blakkheim> oo boon too
[20:29] <hema> sorry
[20:29] <IdleOne> MFriedman: ooboontoo
[20:29] <Like> yeah the last pass gunni
[20:30] <Like> im already have an card detecter
[20:30] <Like> hewri go
[20:30] <Windopain> i have an nvidia card; installed jaunty; saw message about unauth drivers being avail; upgraded to 9.10; no more message; would they be included w/ the 9.10 install? if not, how can i check/install them?
[20:30] <guntbert> !enter | Like
[20:30] <flowr> Hi. I cant get the 'Broadcom 5343' wireless chipset work with ubuntu. And I've installed all those packets http://blog.muehlburger.at/2009/09/25/howto-install-broadcom-wireless-device-on-hp-mini-5101-running-ubuntu-jaunty/
[20:30] <Like> how i edit asoundrc ? fo asoundconf-gtk?
[20:30] <blume> hema are you talking about the "sudo"-passworts, or the passworts you have to type in when you for example mount an Harddrive ?
[20:30] <Like> and itsself
[20:30] <DexterF> hi
[20:30] <MFriedman> what are the system requirements for ubuntu?
[20:31] <konman> rafytafy• dont you get kernel updates?
[20:31] <IdleOne> hey DexterF
[20:31] <DexterF> just tried to disable the splash on grub2. cant even find the config. the f?!* ?
[20:31] <IdleOne> MFriedman: www.ubuntu.com has all that info for you :)
[20:31] <rafytafy> konman: i have current karmic 64bit kernel, i want to try the 2.6.33 kernel to see if the lockup issue still persists
[20:31] <purpleGecko> Hi all, I thought I understood Ubuntu runlevels, but rc2.d doesn't seem to load gdm anywhere, and yet I'm in Gnome! Could someone let me know how this loads?
[20:31] <user0303> my router suddenly passed out a new IP to my Linux box in the LAN, an IP within the set range, I lost connection and could not get back on. I set the IP again with ifconfig eth0, again within the range, but it did not reappear.
[20:31] <hema>  r there arabic or chinees
[20:31] <maco> !sa | hema
[20:31] <maco> !cn | hema
[20:31] <hwilde> jgcampbell300, here is the client download page http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=1348
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels | purpleGecko
[20:32] <IdleOne> DexterF: I dont think you can with grub2
[20:32] <IdleOne> DexterF: not yet that is
[20:32] <DexterF> IdleOne: WHAT?!?!!???!
[20:32] <flowr> F*CK THIS CHANNEL IS SO FULL OF 10-YO KIDS!! FFCKN SHTT DISTRO!
[20:32]  * DexterF has a hissy fit
[20:32] <B3ns4ws0m3> o_o
[20:32] <Sacho> okay.
[20:32] <blakkheim> lol
[20:32] <maco> !ops | flowr
[20:32] <IdleOne> flowr: thank you. there is the door
[20:33] <ardchoille> DexterF , IdleOne yes, you can disable splash
[20:33] <DexterF> phew
[20:33] <purpleGecko> ZykotickK9: thank you, I'll go and find out what Upstart is now!
[20:33] <jgcampbell300> thanks man ... i been fighting the client for a bit
[20:33] <patrlck> hi
[20:33] <IdleOne> ardchoille: ahh good could you tell DexterF how
[20:33] <konman> rafytafy• 2.6.33 is not stable
[20:33] <genii> DexterF: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"         in /etc/default/grub         then (sudo) update-grub
[20:33] <ZykoticK9> purpleGecko, do you want to disable GDM?
[20:33] <patrlck> I have a logitech mouse mx 550 wireless. I have recharged it and now the middle button isn't responsive. any idea how to fix that?
[20:34] <hwilde> DexterF, IdleOne   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:34] <DexterF> genii: eh... and... not for all, only one? got 6 kernels to boot on 3 dists
[20:34] <rafytafy> konman: my current 2.6.31-17 is giving me problems as well
[20:34] <IdleOne> Afternoon mneptok :)
[20:34] <Sirius_Black> Hola :D
[20:34] <B3ns4ws0m3> nice mneptok ;)
[20:34] <mneptok> IdleOne: ahoyhoy
[20:34] <genii> DexterF: Offhand, no idea
[20:34] <DrLuke> hello
[20:35] <purpleGecko> Zykotick9: no, just trying to understand more!
[20:35] <ardchoille> DexterF: I know you can disable splash, but I don't remember how I did it. You have to remove "splash" from a file and I need to find that file.
[20:35] <ardchoille> !grub2
[20:35] <hwilde> DexterF, do you see what I said?    grub.cfg   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:35] <DrLuke> can I run java5 and java6 at the same time in ubuntu 9.10?
[20:35] <user0303> can anyone recommend a firewall ?
[20:35] <hwilde> !firewall > user0303
[20:35] <konman> rafytafy: the current kernel is 2.6.32.4
[20:35] <eae> hey, how can I remove pulseaudio without uninstalling the whole gnome?
[20:35] <IdleOne> hwilde: I thought editing grub.cfg was a bad idea?
[20:35] <jgcampbell300> ok i was trying to install the wrong package ... thank you very much for you help
[20:35] <ardchoille> DexterF: This page explains it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[20:36] <rafytafy> I have 2.6.31-17-generic_64 on my karmic
[20:36] <hwilde> IdleOne, meh, what is this windows?  we are not allowed to edit files now ?
[20:36] <user0303> I've been looking at firewalls that let you observe in realtime. "firestarter", vuurmuur, etc
[20:36] <IdleOne> hwilde: I remember reading that editing that file by hand would break things. I'm probably wrong though
[20:36] <hwilde> user0303, I like the Cisco ASA 5520 personally
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> eae, i don't recommend it but if you want to remove Pulse see http://paste.ubuntu.com/360862/
[20:37] <hwilde> IdleOne, technically, editing any system file has the potential to break things tbh
[20:37] <ardchoille> IdleOne: you can edit /etc/defaults/grub and then do "sudo update-grub"and that was the recommended way
[20:37] <user0303> I have VNC working between windows (ultraVNC) and a Linux VNC but havent figured out a way to optain graphics yet with that combination. ideas? input?
[20:37] <IdleOne> ardchoille: hwilde thank you for the info :)
[20:38] <DexterF> oh jebus now I get it...  this is just.. awkward.
[20:38] <Markive> Good evening all, is it possible in ubuntu to run itunes or is there a really nice way of putting tunes on my iphone?
[20:38] <ardchoille> DexterF: I agree, but it's the way now
[20:38] <konman> rafytafy: there is a guide for upgrading the kernel: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-kernel-upgrade-howto/
[20:38] <rafytafy> thank you
[20:39] <axisys> i have 10 .ps files... i want to make one .pdf file out of them .. i tried to run the following.. but it has been running for 1 hr.
[20:39] <axisys> gs -q -sPAPERSIZE=letter -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=ipmp.pdf ipmp1.ps ipmp2.ps ipmp3.ps ipmp4.ps ipmp5.ps ipmp6.ps ipmp7.ps ipmp8.ps ipmp9.ps ipmp10.ps ipmp11.ps
[20:39] <axisys> any suggestion how to achieve that would be appreciated
[20:39] <axisys> i am running ubuntu karmic (latest) on intel core duo 2.4ghz and 3G mem .. it should have been completed real fast.. eash file is about 300K
[20:39] <FloodBot1> axisys: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <ardchoille> DexterF: Look at the  grub (/etc/default/grub) section on that page
[20:39] <ryanCH> hi
[20:39] <bullgard> !sound | bullgard
[20:40] <ardchoille> DexterF: I removed splash and quite, gives a nice text boot
[20:40] <DexterF> "hey, let's make the config file not to be edited but let it be generated by a script so you cant just edit it from any live cd but have to mount all the distro devs and chroot, and hey, even better, lets mek it not build the conf from a file but from a *set* of files in a dir and *totally* riddle everyone how to arrange the order in case one needs that! did we release proper docs yet? not even one piece? GOOD."
[20:40] <rafytafy> konman: once i install the image do I have to do anything with grub2? I am used to using grub1 and i would normally edit the grub.conf
[20:40] <purpleGecko> Zykotick9: Thank you, I've found the info on upstart :)
[20:41] <blakkheim> DexterF: grub2 sucks i agree, i use regular grub :)
[20:41] <ryanCH> can someone login to my FTP server at "74.100.199.142" and tell me if they see any files in the directory?
[20:41]  * DexterF now officially hates grub2
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> ryanCH, no files listed
[20:41] <acicula> ryanCH: dont ask people here to do that
[20:41] <IdleOne> ryanCH: looks empty
[20:41] <ardchoille> DexterF: I sent yo a PM
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> ryanCH, BTW anonymous FTP if probably NOT a good idea
[20:42] <ryanCH> IdleOne, but put a file in that directory .. it only shows up when i do "ftp 192.168.1.6" which is my computer the ftp server is hosted
[20:42] <jgcampbell300> whats the command line for finding out the version of ubuntu your runing please
[20:42] <acicula> Logging in to random servers without knowing who they belong to is also not very smart
[20:43] <acicula> jgcampbell300: lsb_release -a
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> jgcampbell300, "lsb_realease -a"
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> jgcampbell300, use acicula and not my typo version :)
[20:43] <user0303> thanks ubottu and hwilde. Ihave been looking at Firestarter yes :)
[20:43] <pershian007> hi how can resize root partition ?
[20:44] <axisys> how do I make stick stuff in /etc/resolv.conf that will survive a reboot? i am using dhcp .. i want add more entries in search row
[20:44] <acicula> !partition
[20:44] <guntbert> pershian007: you need to boot from a live CD
[20:44] <jgcampbell300> lol ty
[20:44] <llutz> axisys: edit dhclient.conf
[20:44] <pershian007> guntbert how ?
[20:45] <guntbert> pershian007: how what? how to boot from a live CD?
[20:45] <axisys> llutz: looking.. still trying to find a clue what entry need to be added for `search'
[20:46] <pershian007> no , how resize in live cd ?
[20:46] <c_korn> hello, I want to debug a fullscreen application with gdb. when the game segfaults it does not return to my gnome terminal because gdb blocks it. how can I force the application to open in a window ?
[20:46] <pershian007> guntbert no , how resize in live cd ?
[20:46] <belacqua> Is there a way to find if you are running a 386 or amd64 version of the kernel from the command line?  thanks.
[20:46] <llutz> axisys: supersede domain-name “yoursearch.domain.tld";
[20:46] <acicula> belacqua: uname -a
[20:47] <axisys> llutz: oh ok.. thanks a lot
[20:47] <ylynfatt> Good day all. I'd like to know how to go about renaming a set of folders e.g. folder1, folder2... to new_folder1, new_folder2?
[20:47] <konman> rafytafy: you have to run "update-grub2"
[20:47] <ylynfatt> via a bash or python script
[20:48] <belacqua> acicula: thanks.  d'oh - didn't see it at first.
[20:48] <EuphorianX3> When I lower my resolution below 1600x1200 LCD, the color and blending become dull, is there anyway to fix that
[20:48] <guntbert> pershian007: using gparted - but at the moment I don't have the spirit  -  because it depends on what else there is on the disk
[20:48] <konman> rafytafy: sorry for slow response
[20:48] <patrlck> I see there is no xorg.conf in ubuntu 9.10 .. where do I have to look to change the settings for my mouse???
[20:48] <mike8i8> Is there a way to remap keys without using xmodmap??
[20:49] <acicula> EuphorianX3: yeah , run your lcd at its native resolution?
[20:49] <Retro68> darn.
[20:49] <pershian007> guntbert 10 Q
[20:49] <patrlck> ping
[20:49] <Retro68> mymmain nick is taken lol
[20:49] <EuphorianX3> acicula I don't like doing that cause it slows down
[20:49] <acicula> EuphorianX3: in games you mean?
[20:49] <ardchoille> Retro68: PM?
[20:49] <EuphorianX3> UI
[20:49] <Retro68> ?
[20:49] <EuphorianX3> GUI*
[20:50] <acicula> EuphorianX3: well its unavoidable with lcd screens
[20:50] <guntbert> Retro68: ask in #freenode
[20:50] <patrlck> does anyone know how to change some of my mouse settings? xorg.conf doesn't exist in latest ubuntu
[20:50] <belacqua> ylynfatt:   look for and install one from these   $ apt-cache search file | grep rename
[20:50] <EuphorianX3> theres no way for my OS to emulate the lower resolutions with better quality?
[20:51] <acicula> patrlck: via preferences -> mouse?
[20:51] <patrlck> acicula, not all settings are available there
[20:51] <patrlck> ie: middle mouse button and such
[20:51] <llutz> ylynfatt: mmv
[20:51] <Retro68> CPU:       Single core Intel Atom N270 (UP) cache 512 KB flags (sse3)
[20:51] <Retro68>            Clock Speeds: (1) 1600.00 MHz (2) 800.00 MHz
[20:51] <saxartist> why are the default login screens so ugly now? The Ubuntustudio one is awful
[20:51] <patrlck> basically I just put my mouse on recharge, then the middle button won't work as it used to
[20:51] <Retro68> UNR = excellent
[20:51] <acicula> EuphorianX3: the lcd emulates lower resolutions at the expense of screen quality
[20:52] <nomercy> hi is there anybody using bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?
[20:52] <belacqua> ylynfatt:   for i in * ; do mv $i foo_$i ; done
[20:52] <EuphorianX3> ok then, well the biggest problem i have with being in 1600x1200 is when i drag the windows and it displays the contents dragging, it is slow and choppy how do i disable that feature?
[20:52] <guntbert> !anyone | nomercy
[20:53] <ylynfatt> belacqua: thanks I'll try that.
[20:53] <fredensborg> I just used Synaptic to install unrar-free, but it doesn't run when I click on an archive that I want to unpack. Any suggestions?
[20:53] <acicula> EuphorianX3: Preferences->Appearance
[20:53] <Retro68> unrar nonfree
[20:53] <purpleGecko> patrlck: xorg.conf is here: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:53] <Retro68> unrar free doesnt support the latest rar archives
[20:53] <patrlck> fredensborg, I'd suggest to use winrar thru wine :P
[20:53] <EuphorianX3> visual effects are turned off.
[20:53] <Retro68> wine..
[20:54] <patrlck> purpleGecko, not in ubuntu 9.10
[20:54] <acicula> no need for that, unrar (nonfree) works just fine
[20:54] <fredensborg> Ok both of you!
[20:54] <Retro68> ugh
[20:54] <fredensborg> acicula: I'll try that
[20:54] <Retro68> like I suggested heh, unrar nonfree
[20:54] <purpleGecko> patrlck: that's what I'm on - only re-installed this week :)
[20:55] <fredensborg> Retro68: Right
[20:55] <patrlck> purpleGecko, well there is no file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:55] <Retro68> its what I use
[20:55] <Retro68> for a long time it was certain progs that kept me stuck on windows
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> patrlck, by default there is not an xorg.conf in 9.10 - what gfx card you using?
[20:55] <patrlck> radeon
[20:56] <ZykoticK9> patrlck, sorry i'm no help there - hoping you where going to say nvidia
[20:56] <Retro68> but theres such a plethora of open source programs out there now, I just plain dont need windows
[20:56] <patrlck> I'm currently downloading ATI's proprietary drivers for my video card
[20:57]  * Retro68 was superhappy to find gweled
[20:57] <patrlck> I hate the fact that most of linux knowledge fades with time
[20:57] <acicula> patrlck: using the hardware driver installation or are you manually downloading the driver yoursel
[20:58] <patrlck> acicula, hw driver installation
[20:58] <acicula> patrlck: k
[20:59] <patrlck> should I expect my system to crash or something? :P
[20:59] <purpleGecko> patrlck: sorry for doubting you, it seems the installation of my nvidia driver created my xorg.conf :/
[20:59] <acicula> patrlck: nah
[20:59] <patrlck> purpleGecko, np :)
[20:59] <acicula> patrlck: it will send wafts of magic smokes before it does that
[20:59] <patrlck> sounds good
[20:59] <lampe2> hello
[20:59] <acicula> i know right
[20:59] <patrlck> whattttttttt, I need to restart :(
[20:59] <snake_> I need drivers for: "Dell 1397 WLAN 802.11g" and google is not my friend today...
[21:00] <truk77> Anybody: I'm having serious issues installing Ubuntu on a Dell Precision 1500.   Suspect the video driver.  Is there a way to use the Karmic LiveCD in command line only mode?
[21:00] <patrlck> well, hopefully my mouse will be fixed when I reboot
[21:00] <patrlck> good old windows trick
[21:00] <acicula> snake_: what does lspci report as the name of your wlan?
[21:00] <snake_> truk77, ctrl alt f2
[21:00] <acicula> patrlck: its lying
[21:00] <acicula> patrlck: just kill the gui, thats enough ;)
[21:00] <patrlck> acicula, yeah that makes sense
[21:01] <snake_> acicula, my wireless card is named eth1 if that is what you need
[21:01] <truk77> snake_: something's screwing up the system when it tries to start an X server, I think...I want to get into text mode before it tries
[21:01] <mvn071> hi, i am prepairing  ubuntu-desktop deployment based pxeboot for ~100 desktops. pxeboots offer a livesystem based one image using casper and squashfs. This image is readonly for performance reasons. It mount homedirs over NFS and authenticates against kerberos. My question is, is this approach different enough to write a howto on the wiki?
[21:01] <snake_> truk77, yes when you boot up press "ctrl alt f2"
[21:01] <truk77> snake_: ok, thanks, will try
[21:01] <Hafiz> asd
[21:01] <_vbu> Hi. I am running ubuntu 8.04, due to some issue kernel panics, i searched for crash dumps in /var/crash but there isn't one. Is there some way to get a crash dump
[21:01] <acicula> snake_: nope, type, chip and all that is important to solve the problem, if its not autodetected after a fresh install first connecgt a cable and update your system completely, maybe it will already propose the proper drivers via preferences->hardware drivers
[21:02] <acicula> _vbu: kernel panics do not generate crash dumps
[21:02] <_vbu> acicula: can i enable kernel dump in ubuntu
[21:03] <acicula> _vbu: well i assume you can force the kernel to dump somewhere
[21:03] <_vbu> acicula: yes i want the same
[21:03] <acicula> _vbu: otherwise noone could debug it, but dunno, what do you get a kernel panic at
[21:03] <acicula> is it just failing to mount the root fs or?
[21:04] <acicula> mvn071: it wont hurt ? afaik the pxe wiki focusses on just the simple installation case
[21:04] <_vbu> acicula: i am running a custom module of mine and i want to debug it
[21:04] <_vbu> acicula: which tool or kernel option is used to enable the crash dump
[21:05] <acicula> _vbu: yeah you will have to look into kernel debugging, but if its a mod consider loading/unloading it into a running kernel rather then debugging at boot?
[21:05] <acicula> _vbu: wouldnt know
[21:06] <_vbu> acicula: its a dynamic loadable module. but after running a few hours the system crashes. I am unable to get to the problem because i have nothing more then a backtrace
[21:07] <DexterF> need a mail client that can talk to an MS Exchange - is there any..?
[21:07] <DexterF> or a plugin for tbird?
[21:08] <acicula> DexterF: thunderbird can talk to exchange afaik or at least via imap?
[21:08] <DexterF> nah, need to be the exchange protocol, imap not running on that Ex and I cant do a thing about it
[21:09] <zig_> Anyone know of a way to, via a command-line of some sort, convert a mass amount of PDF files to, say, TXT, or ODT or what-have-you
[21:09] <grandm> hi,  im using ubuntu 9.10, how can i look up what my audio record device is called, i have tried lsmod but i dont know what im looking for
[21:09] <zig_> Perhaps even HTML
[21:09] <_vbu> DexterF: you could try crossover + microsoft outlook. it works well for me
[21:09] <DexterF> :|
[21:09] <DexterF> VMware then, rather
[21:10] <Lavinho> alguem sabe que comandos se usa no empathy ?
[21:10] <rafael> hello
[21:10] <bullgard> man ls: "option -F, --classify: append indicator (one of */=>@|) to entries.' What does the indicator '@' stand for?
[21:10] <_vbu> DexterF: it doesn't take that much resources as a vmware image takes
[21:10] <acicula> Lavinho: language?
[21:10] <Billiard> zig_: there is a pdftohtml command
[21:10] <Lavinho> e que eu n me consigo ligar no irc com o empathy , diz-me comando não suportado
[21:10] <acicula> Lavinho: empathy doesnt do irc very well afaik
[21:11] <BlouBlou> !enlglish | Lavinho
[21:11] <rafael> poland?
[21:11] <BlouBlou> !english | Lavinho
[21:11] <acicula> !pl | rafael
[21:11] <rafael> ok
[21:11] <mneptok> !pt > Lavinho
[21:11] <DexterF> _vbu: resources are not much of an issue, and 2003 works ok on 256MB
[21:12] <tweaksource> I'm looking at building a pc and run ubuntu. Should any Intel chipset + nvidia  combination work well?
[21:12] <tweaksource> Anything to beware of?
[21:12] <iceroot> tweaksource: sure
[21:12] <iceroot> tweaksource: i am using it too
[21:12] <tweaksource> iceroot, What are you using?
[21:12] <mneptok> tweaksource: you'll avoid frustration by using Intel throughout. especially for graphics and wireless.
[21:12] <iceroot> tweaksource: asus p5b-e + gf7900 gs
[21:12] <hummesse> i have a question regarding ebay. Where to post?
[21:13] <digms> #ebay
[21:13] <hummesse> no
[21:13] <iceroot> hummesse: not here
[21:13] <tweaksource> mneptok, That's what i thought. I have 2 pc's with ATI now. Some releases work well. Others don't
[21:13] <mneptok> hummesse: eBay has customer service for users. contact them.
[21:13] <hero1900> how to show the boot menu if i got single ubuntu on one hard disk i want to look at the menu??
[21:13] <acicula> mneptok: not really, all the atom intel gfx stuff doesnt work so well
[21:13] <hummesse> i mean an irc channel
[21:13] <tweaksource> I'm talking desktop
[21:13] <hummesse> #ebay is empty
[21:13] <acicula> mneptok: no hw accelerated video decode on intel 4500 either :/
[21:13] <iceroot> !ot | hummesse
[21:14] <hummesse> thanks
[21:14] <guntbert> hero1900: on booting press either <shift> or <esc>
[21:14] <hero1900> thx
[21:14] <cyad1972> Hola buenas a todos
[21:14] <cyad1972> ¿alguien puede echarme un cbale?
[21:14] <tweaksource> iceroot, thanks.
[21:15] <acicula> iceroot: it maybe that the 7900gs is only supported still by the open source nvidia driver and not the binary driver from nvidia itself(less 3d stuff support)
[21:15] <iceroot> acicula: its using the closed source driver
[21:15] <rafael> hello
[21:15] <cyad1972> ¿alguien sabe si se puede instalar ubunmtu en un pendrive?
[21:15] <acicula> iceroot: cool :), didnt think it would still work with that
[21:15] <tweaksource> iceroot, No issues with 7900gs then?
[21:16] <rafael> i'm looking for CAF for ubuntu?? any idea?
[21:16] <Arsin> I ran SuperPi on Ubuntu and Win7, Win7 won by 10min, any idea why?
[21:16] <acicula> cyad1972: language?
[21:16] <iceroot> tweaksource: no
[21:16] <rafael> CAD
[21:16] <acicula> !usb | cyad1972
[21:16] <sheldon> hello all, i get a problem to change permission on ntfs-3g mounted partition
[21:17] <acicula> Arsin: Superpi is a windows program?
[21:17] <sheldon> i mount ntfs-3g and after impossible to changer owner of dir
[21:17] <acicula> sheldon: premissions on ntfs are different from unix permissions
[21:17] <jjk>  gcc:no input files error
[21:17] <cyad1972> Pero lo que quiero es instalarlo en un usb no desde un usb
[21:17] <sheldon> it's not possible to change permission ?
[21:17] <Arsin> acicula: Both, in linux its just a command
[21:17] <acicula> !pt | cyad1972
[21:17] <mneptok> !es | cyad1972
[21:18] <acicula> Arsin: dunno then
[21:18] <sheldon> maybe problem is that my device is a logical partition ?
[21:18] <acicula> sheldon: thats not related
[21:18] <tasslehoff> I need to do chgrp on /home, but it fails on .gfvs and gives up. How can I do chgrp on everything except that one?
[21:18] <sheldon> it's strange no ?
[21:18] <bullgard> man ls: "option -F, --classify: append indicator (one of */=>@|) to entries." What does the indicator '@' stand for?
[21:19] <sheldon> normally i would be able to change owner of mounted dir ?
[21:19] <Billiard> sheldon: ntfs doesnt support unix permissions, you can change the owner of the entire filesystem when you mount it though
[21:19] <jjk> gcc:no input files error in the terminal  but in synaptic manager gcc is installed
[21:19] <zacktu> i have installed eclipse as /opt/eclipsexx (download, not via synaptic).  That's fine for me to use as a developer.  Pydev updates from the pydev site when I'm using eclipse.  On the other hand, eclipse doesn't update and doesn't show the eclipse update site as "available" unless I execute eclipse from the command line as root.   Is this the way it should be?
[21:19] <tasslehoff> or, how can I chgrp on .gfvs?
[21:20] <sheldon> how can i do this ?
[21:20] <consolecowboy> omg i was just messing about with Cheese, taking multiple photos and suddenly these voices came on saying stuff like 'hahaha you look' and 'cheeeeese!' i nearly got a heartattack, i live alone and i was in complete silence. whats that all about?
[21:20] <sheldon> i must to add sudo permission to my user for mount ?
[21:20] <tlyu> bullgard, "@" in ls -F = symbolic link
[21:21] <Billiard> sheldon: how are you mounting it currently, do you have a line in your fstab?
[21:21] <hiexpo> consolecowboy, - lol
[21:21] <acicula> jjk: the error means gcc works but it doesnt have anything to do
[21:21] <sheldon> in root, mount -t ntfs-3g ......
[21:22] <Billiard> sheldon: add the option gid=value
[21:22] <fredensborg> How do I extract a file inside an ISO file?
[21:22] <Billiard> sheldon: to your mount command so "mount.ntfs-3g /dev/xxxx /mountpoint gid=groupname"
[21:23] <guntbert> !iso | fredensborg
[21:23] <jophish> Howdy all. At the moment, I have a file server at home, and I mount a directory on there from any computer in the house using nfs, with full rw permissions, all is hunky-dory. I have a static ip, so I thought it might be useful to be able to mount a directory on the server from the web. There seems to be two ways of doing this, either by sshfs, or mounting a nfs share over ssh. Which one of these would #ubuntu recommend? in terms of security and ea
[21:23] <jophish> se of use. Mounting the share from the web should probably be limited to one directory on the server, with no write permissions. Thanks
[21:23] <fredensborg> Appreciated
[21:23] <jjk> @acicula:but my programs are not working here when i use gcc command in terminal
[21:24] <acicula> jjk: if you type gcc in the terminal what does it say
[21:24] <mneptok> jophish: install openssh-server and use ssh. far, FAR more secure.
[21:25] <acicula> mneptok: both things he mentioned use that
[21:25] <FishLightDesign> hey all!
[21:25] <acicula> sshfs is probably based on sftp and scp, the other uses the ssh tunnel to route nfs traffic over?
[21:25] <FishLightDesign> so I am having problems installing on a Flash Drive
[21:25] <mneptok> acicula: yes. but nfs+ssh introduced another potential attack surface in nfs
[21:25] <aeon-ltd> jophish: yeah +1 on security, but remember to change port 22 to something more obscure
[21:25] <jophish> thanks mneptok, is this: http://www.howtoforge.com/nfs_ssh_tunneling what you have in mind?
[21:25] <acicula> mneptok: not really
[21:26] <acicula> mneptok: you tunnel from one machine to another
[21:26] <FishLightDesign> I want to make it as the primary boot disc. I'm running desktop on a server
[21:26] <mneptok> jophish: no, leave nfs out of it.
[21:26] <acicula> so nfs is never exposed to the internet
[21:26] <jjk> @acicula:it says "gcc:no input files"
[21:26] <acicula> jjk: then gcc is working
[21:26] <FishLightDesign> anyone?
[21:26] <acicula> using sshfs is probably easier though
[21:26] <aeon-ltd> acicula: its safe to run nfs just make sure your iptables or fw is configured well enough
[21:27] <Billiard> FishLightDesign: did you choose to boot from usb in the bios settings?
[21:27] <FishLightDesign> yeah, I have a live version of desktop running right now
[21:27] <jophish> what is insecure about sshing into the server, and them mounting a nfs share from there? as in the link I posted
[21:27] <Billiard> FishLightDesign: so what is the problem?
[21:27] <FishLightDesign> and the flash is plugged in. but I want the flash to actually serve as the boot drive for the computer
[21:27] <FishLightDesign> I have't installed linux on it yet
[21:27] <jjk> @acicula:when i do my programs output is not coming here
[21:27] <jophish> or how would I mount the directory using just ssh?
[21:28] <Billiard> FishLightDesign: which part are you stuck on?
[21:28] <bullgard> man ls: "option -F, --classify: append indicator (one of */=>@|) to entries.' What does the indicator '@' stand for?
[21:28] <Laibsch> Hi, is Ubuntu netbook remix defined by the configurations and set of available packages or are the packages recompiled in a way to save space, for example?
[21:28] <ubuntu__> słabo znam angielski
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> jophish: same network? by any chance
[21:28] <FishLightDesign> let me try again... hold on. I'm going to wipe the drive and try the install again
[21:29] <georgiosarkouzis> Heya people-I got a question  regarding setting a specific resolution for gdm in 9.10. I can not see the user list etc,because the resolution is too high.I would like to set it to 1024x768-xrandr and saving into /etc/gdm/Init/Default didn't help( I followed several suggestions but nada)..
[21:29] <jophish> what do you mean aeon-ltd ?
[21:29] <acicula> Laibsch: its meant to fit on a small netbook disk
[21:29] <bullgard> Laibsch: Ubuntu Remix is an alternative set of available packages.
[21:29] <aeon-ltd> jophish: is the nfs share on the same network ie. local file server
[21:30] <tlyu> bullgard, "@" in ls -F = symbolic link. the info page explains, but the man page does not.
[21:30] <bullgard> tlyu: Thank you very much for your help.
[21:31] <Laibsch> bullgard: are they recompiled any differently than the "normal" packages?  for example, is the firefox package any different in UNR than in normal Ubuntu?
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> Laibsch: nope but branding may differ
[21:31] <Lostinspace_46> My gedit is double spacing lines.  How can I stop this?
[21:31] <Laibsch> OK
[21:32] <jophish> aeon-ltd, at the moment I am fine mounting the nfs share from inside the lan, but I want to extend this to allowing me to access the files from the internet
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> jophish: as long as ufw or iptables are set to accept incoming connections from your ip then i don't see why this isn't secure
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> jophish: *only accept incoming
[21:33] <Laibsch> I'm thinking about buying a hybrid netbook with ssd and hd.  Space on the SSD would be at a premium and I'm thinking about installing a separate, slimmed-down linux on the SSD.  And I want to have as much space remaining as possible on the SSD for real data.
[21:33] <jophish> this is for mounting the nfs share through a ssh tunnel right?
[21:33] <dsearle> Anyone using a sata cd drive with ubuntu? I'm thinking about buying one, but i'm not sure about the support for them.
[21:33] <jophish> wouldn't the server see the nfs mount request come from its own ip then?
[21:34] <jophish> so I should put in /etc/exports a line dealing with localhost
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> jophish: damn you right soz my bad, but you can still limit ssh access
[21:34] <jophish> yeah, I was going to set up a user without the ability to run commands
[21:35] <ulb> .
[21:35] <ulb> is it possible to run webserver from NAS device?
[21:39] <meco> I opened an ISO file and found several files inside, among them a 1.4GB .CAB file. Is this the file which contains the media I am looking for?
[21:39] <acicula> ulb: heu, the short answer would be yeah, but it sortof depends how you want to do it. its pretty specific for a generic support channel though
[21:40] <acicula> dsearle: my sata dvd burner works just fine
[21:40] <ulb> acicula: ty, yeah just sort of thinking out loud
[21:40] <dsearle> acicula: What drive have you got?
[21:41] <Schui> hello, having a bit of trouble getting my camera to work.. its a hitachi dz-mv230a. i looked it up and it appears support is only for windows/mac. i was wondering if there were more traditional ways of using your cam?
[21:41] <acicula> dsearle: dunno
[21:41] <acicula> dsearle: samsung something i think
[21:41] <guntbert> meco: .cab are windows archives
[21:41] <acicula> dsearle: i cant fanthom why a sata drive would not work though
[21:41] <dsearle> acicula: ty, Will have a shop arround :)
[21:41] <acicula> dsearle: at least not from any of the generic brands
[21:41] <Scunizi> Schui: camera or camcorder?
[21:41] <dsearle> acicula: I've just read reports of people not being able to burn, etc..
[21:41] <meco> guntbert: Yeah, but they can be opened like any arhcive can't they?
[21:42] <Schui> scunizi, its a camcorder - dvd cam
[21:42] <acicula> dsearle: well i havent tried that, i think
[21:42] <Scunizi> Schui: and dv output?
[21:42] <guntbert> meco: just try - I have no idea
[21:42] <meco> Does anyone know how I can open a .cab archive?
[21:43] <Schui> scunizi, it has a usb connection to the pc
[21:43] <acicula> meco: with cabextract
[21:43] <meco> acicula: nice
[21:43] <acicula> meco: ?
[21:44] <meco> acicula: appreciated
[21:44] <Scunizi> Schui: then you need to focus on mounting it as a usb device.. there may also be a setting in the camera for a couple different pc connection modes
[21:45] <jophish> OK, it seems that sshfs is the best way to do this, (leave nfs out of this). Is there any way in which I can get sshfs to only access one directory with read only permissions?
[21:45] <Schui> scunizi, how would i mount it as a usb device?
[21:47] <Scunizi> Schui: sorry i have to leave that for others
[21:47] <Schui> scunizi, np lol
[21:47] <acicula> jophish: well sshfs uses sftp/scp or an ssh session under the hood, so you have the same permissions as the user you login as
[21:47] <meco> acicula: After I installed cabextract using Synaptic I clicked on the .cab archive and got an error message saying that no application is installed for this file type. Any suggestion?
[21:48] <acicula> meco: probably fileroller doesnt understand cabextract
[21:48] <Lostinspace_46> My gedit is double spacing lines.  How can I stop this?
[21:48] <acicula> meco: wield the console ;)
[21:48] <jophish> so I need to set sshfs to only allow an unprivileged user login from 192.168.0.1 (my router)
[21:49] <jophish> is it possible to limit a user to only being able to see /data/music, and have no write permissions there
[21:49] <acicula> jophish: apparmor maybe
[21:49] <erUSUL> jophish: make it read only for him
[21:49] <acicula> jophish: or create a user which only has permissions for those directories?
[21:50] <jophish> That's possible?
[21:50] <Trek> jophish: not easily, but it can be done
[21:50] <erUSUL> !permisions | jophish
[21:50] <erUSUL> !permision | jophish
[21:50] <wh1901> о
[21:50] <tasslehoff> If I change a keyboard layout (in an editor), do I have to restart X for it to take effect?
[21:50] <Schui> so is there a piece of software or something i could use to get my cam to work? i plug it in and it's not detected... it's a hitachi dz-mv230a camcorder.. should i just make a new post to the forums?
[21:50] <Trek> !permissions | jophish
[21:50] <acicula> well the user must have a a username/passwd, doesnt need to be able to actually start a shell (maybe?)
[21:50] <jophish> the thing is, that the directory is read, write for everyone. at the moment it's mounted just form the lan, with trusted users
[21:50] <acicula> !webcam > Schui
[21:51] <erUSUL> Trek: ty
[21:51] <acicula> Schui: also gstreamer-properties, do you get any output there?
[21:51] <Trek> erUSUL: no problem.
[21:51] <XeroXer> Does anyone know why ddcprobe gives edidfail in 64 bit (ubuntu 9.10), worked great on 32 bit.
[21:52] <Schui> acicula, yes. it gets like 5 lines of "Skipping unavailable plugin" and then it opens up a window
[21:53] <acicula> Schui: check the linked webpage for any solutions
[21:53] <meco> Is it possible to copy a file so I can access it from Windows XP?
[21:53] <acicula> meco: copy it to the windows partition?
[21:53] <ikonia> meco: sure, mount your windows partition
[21:53] <jophish> so the file permissions are "-rwxrw-rw- 1 root root" for every file, any way to limit this dumb user another way?
[21:54] <DVA5912> What is two finger scrolling ?
[21:54] <acicula> jophish: yeah not make it writeable for world would be a good start ;)
[21:54] <acicula> DVA5912: one finger on the touchpad and one one the screen :)?
[21:54] <Trek> meco:  yes, copy it to a separate FAT16 partition
[21:54] <Schui> acicula, its not a webcam, would that matter?
[21:54] <acicula> Schui: yeah
[21:54] <acicula> DVA5912: its for touchscreens i think
[21:54] <DVA5912> acicula, there is an option for two finger scrolling in thouchpad settings
[21:54] <DVA5912> aohh
[21:55] <meco> What app is comparable to Windows Explorer in Ubuntu?
[21:55] <acicula> DVA5912: oh then i dont know
[21:55] <acicula> meco: nautilus
[21:55] <jophish> acicula, at the moment its accessed by several people over a lan, who all need rw permissions. that seemed to be the only way of doing that, letting "others" have rw access
[21:55] <acicula> Schui: erm is it a camera on a stick with a usb connector or is it a camera with interated storage
[21:56] <meco> I think I have nautilus installed, but I cannot see it in the menus. Suggestions?
[21:56] <acicula> Schui: if the latter then you may not be able to directly access the video input
[21:56] <Schui> acicula, its a hand held video recorder, it uses dvd rw's for storage
[21:56] <acicula> Schui: does it show up as a storage device?
[21:56] <jophish> meco, go to places, in the top left
[21:56] <meco> Right
[21:56] <jophish> between applicationa and system
[21:56] <Schui> acicula, nothing shows up. it's possible i'm doing something wrong when connecting tho
[21:56] <acicula> Schui: for the direct video access part, ie watch what the camera is seeing right now it will be treated as a webcam
[21:57] <acicula> Schui: well its usb or firewire, not much to do wrong there
[21:57] <acicula> Schui: remove any hubs to make sure just in case
[21:57] <Schui> acicula, to elaborate, if i plug in the usb cord when camera is off, nothing happens at all. but if i plug it in when the camera is on, it goes into some kind of "thinking" mode, and then goes blank
[21:58] <acicula> Schui: well probably because the kernel is trying to figure out what the new usb device is\
[21:58] <acicula> and then decides : idunno
[21:58] <acicula> you can type dmesg on a console and see some status messages about that
[21:58] <Schui> acicula, probably lol
[21:59] <Schui> acicula, dmesg comes up with tons of stuff :S
[21:59] <acicula> Schui: thats normal
[22:00] <acicula> prolly just want the last 10-15 linesa
[22:00] <Schui> acicula, none of it means anything to me tho.. would you like to see it?
[22:00] <acicula> Schui: yeah slap it on pastebin
[22:01] <acicula> Schui: you want to be able to use it as a webcam or?
[22:01] <Schui> acicula, i just want to get stuff off the cam onto th epc
[22:02] <phong_> Linux phong 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:02] <meco> Can I run Windows under Ubuntu if I install Wine, and do I use Synaptic to do that?
[22:02] <acicula> so view it as a storage
[22:02] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | meco
[22:02] <acicula> Schui: is there a mode you can set on the camera so that it maybe shows up as a disk, ie pc sync mode or something to that extend?
[22:02] <elyos> meco - what app do u need windows for?
[22:03] <meco> elyos:  It's a game I just downloaded
[22:03] <Schui> acicula, possibly. there's no buttons i can see for that but there is options available in the camera settings, i can look
[22:03] <elyos> meco you wont want to run a game in a virtualmachine
[22:03] <elyos> meco your only viable option IS wine in that case
[22:04] <elyos> meco and most of the time it's an EPIC phail
[22:04] <acicula> meco: Wine emulates a windows environment to run windows programs in, A vitualizer emulates a pc to run windows in to run windos apps in
[22:04] <meco> elyos: OK. Is that a simple thing to get going (for a newbie)?
[22:04] <switchgirl> anyone know where to look for how to sync Alcatel OT-708 with ubuntu?
[22:04] <acicula> meco: sucess variers, look on winehq site to see if particula apps work
[22:04] <kermit> noscript is maddening, having to approve everything constantly.. is there a way to just get firefox to only run scripts on pages IM ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ?
[22:05] <Schui> acicula, wow, i figured it out.... you can just put the mini-dvd in the comp >_<
[22:05] <Schui> acicula, im an idiot lol. thanks for your help man
[22:05] <daftykins> kermit: that's why i can never put up with it myself. i think it's the only option, unless you get someones "safe list"
[22:05] <elyos> meco: you'll have to google it, there's tutorials, but you can just use the one in the package manager to be easy.  but sometimes the newer beta has better support for newer windows apps
[22:05] <Lostinspace_46> My gedit is double spacing lines.  How can I stop this?
[22:06] <kermit> daftykins: its amazing someone would invent such a convoluted method, and the flash blocker thing too.. rather than just 'run things im looking at and not things im not'
[22:06] <blakkheim> Lostinspace_46: use vi
[22:06] <kermit> daftykins: the pdf on wear leveling answered my question, thanks
[22:06] <meco> I think I shall boot Windows to see if I want to invest much time playing that game, otherwise I should wait getting my feet totally wet until I really need to...
[22:07] <elyos> meco good idea,  linux gets the user away from gaming and on to real work in general :)
[22:07] <jschall> why does networkmanager in (k)ubuntu ALWAYS revert to "auto eth0" (DHCP)? i want to use a static ip, and i want it to stick, and this is BS. why should end users have to edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:07] <daftykins> kermit: cool :) yeah sometimes i think the best solution is to have two FF installs, one with noscript and adblock blocking everything, then another that you paste links you just want to see into :>
[22:07] <meco> elyos: Hehe... I've been on the right path for years then :-)
[22:08] <daftykins> jschall: in gnome the network settings utility lets you keep network manager but specify a static config.
[22:08] <daftykins> i'm sure KDE has the same.
[22:08] <Lostinspace_46> blakkheim> Might try that, never used it.
[22:10] <lumox> hi. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10. In the new sound settings manager my card is not displayed and I don't have sound (Realtek ALC660), but speaker-test is working and my card is displayed in alsamixer!
[22:11] <meco> How can I delete a file that was created with a sudo command?
[22:11] <meco> (using nautilus)
[22:11] <lumox> @meco: go to terminal and run sudo nautilus
[22:12] <meco> lumox: OK
[22:12] <guntbert> meco: no
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> meco, techincally you should be using "gksu nautilus"
[22:12] <guntbert> !gksudo | meco lumox
[22:12] <oCean_> meco: lumox actually, use gksudo for gui apps
[22:12] <blakkheim> meco: sudo rm file
[22:12] <daftykins> lumox: sorry to second guess but it'd be best advised to hit alt+f2 and run "gksudo nautilus" for safety's sake
[22:13] <meco> ok all
[22:15] <lumox> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10. In the new sound settings manager my card is not displayed and I don't have sound (Realtek ALC660), but speaker-test is working and my card is displayed in alsamixer!
[22:15] <meco> I got an error:
[22:15] <daftykins> lumox: are you fully updated and upgraded?
[22:16] <lumox> yes
[22:16] <meco> can I post it (two lines)?
[22:16] <daftykins> !pastebin
[22:16] <KrisKo> hi there, where can i set default window manager in ubuntu 9.10 (gnome)?
[22:17] <xguru> lumox: have you ran alsamixer in terminal and made sure the volume is up?
[22:17] <lumox> xguru: yes, and actually i can hear sound with speaker-test
[22:18] <acicula> Schui: eh yeah that would work too :)
[22:18] <xguru> lumox: have you check the bottom of the alsa bars to see if they are MM instead of 00
[22:18] <Schui> acicula, >_< lol ty though you are a smart person
[22:18] <meco> OK, here is the error message:
[22:18] <meco> SNautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[22:19] <acicula> Schui: thanx
[22:19] <daftykins> xguru: re-read lumox 's question, it's not the audio not working, it's the GUI apps not seeing the device.
[22:19] <meco> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[22:19] <rado1> How would I go about debugging this keyboard repeat rate issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/427168
[22:20] <DJCharlie> Folks, I need some big help fast. My routing tables on my server are screwed up (http://pastebin.com/m4872da42) and I can't fix them. Data that should be going through eth0 is going through eth1 for some reason.
[22:20] <lumox> @xguru: the problem is that the card is not displayed in ubuntus sound settings (only a "dummy-card")
[22:20] <DJCharlie> ANY help would be appreciated.
[22:20] <meco> When I opened nautilus using gksudo my dekstop was empty, so I guess that the error message which I pasted explains what is the probem.
[22:20] <xguru> hmm..
[22:21] <piero> How can I get help about glade/gtk ?
[22:21] <acicula> DJCharlie: default         192.168.254.1   0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[22:21] <acicula> DJCharlie: default         192.168.254.254 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[22:21] <acicula> your default gw/route is set to eth0
[22:22] <acicula> not sure why its in there twice either?
[22:22] <daftykins> lumox: i have a feeling it may be some config in your /home folder left on from the previous version
[22:22] <acicula> DJCharlie: delete those and readd a default route to the right gw on eth1?
[22:22] <DJCharlie> acicula: How?
[22:22] <lumox> @daftykins: possible, which files may i delete?
[22:23] <daftykins> lumox: that's the part i'm stuck on :D just fiddling now
[22:23] <piero> In Glade3, how can I create an Image widget with a png/jpg file? I don't know how to create a GdkImage it needs...
[22:23] <lumox> @daftykins: what about ~/.pulse
[22:23] <acicula> DJCharlie: route del and then the rules you want to remove
[22:23] <acicula> route add to readd them
[22:23] <daftykins> lumox: pulseaudio is config'd in ~/.pulse and ~/.pulse-cookie ,try moving those to .pulseold and .pulse-cookieold
[22:23] <daftykins> ye ;)
[22:23] <daftykins> just booted my VM to check :P
[22:24] <daftykins> lumox: i have a feeling those might have nothing to do with the GUI apps mind, but worth a shot
[22:24] <DJCharlie> acicula: SIOCDELRT: No such process
[22:24] <xguru> lumox: what is selected under the output tab?
[22:24] <acicula> DJCharlie: use sudo
[22:24] <DJCharlie> acicula: That's what I get when I try route del ANYTHING.
[22:24] <macman_> wierd
[22:25] <DJCharlie> acicula: That's with sudo route del <anything>
[22:25] <acicula> well anything has to match a specific rule i think
[22:25] <daftykins> deleting routes can be a little finicky
[22:25] <DJCharlie> acicula: Example: sudo route del default zuul
[22:26] <acicula> DJCharlie: cant fix it by restarting the network configurations, since it appearantly worked before and was configured?
[22:26] <DJCharlie> acicula: That was the first thing I tried.
[22:26] <acicula> DJCharlie: i think you have to add the device as well to the del ?
[22:26] <DJCharlie> eth0 is a direct connection to the net. eth1 is to my home lan (for samba)
[22:27] <acicula> DJCharlie: oh
[22:27] <acicula> then you probably want eth0 as the default gw route
[22:27] <DJCharlie> acicula: Exactly.
[22:27] <daftykins> DJCharlie: you tried checking the interfaces file then just rebooting?
[22:27] <acicula> DJCharlie: you want to delete zuul though?
[22:27] <daftykins> to clear those odd routes.
[22:27] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Several times.
[22:28] <daftykins> heh so that weird 'zuul' comes from nowhere?
[22:28] <DJCharlie> acicula: I want to set it back up so all outside data goes through eth0 (web server, shoutcast, etc)
[22:28] <acicula> well you have a default route on eth0 to two different gateways, and one that goes back
[22:28] <DJCharlie> daftykins: zuul is my firewall on eth1.
[22:28] <Slart> hmm.. anyone else having problems joining #ubuntu? I ended up in #ubuntu-unregged
[22:28] <daftykins> a different comp?
[22:29] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Yes.
[22:29] <daftykins> Slart: due to teh spam only reg'd users can join now
[22:29] <maco> Slart: probably because of the spam attacks
[22:29] <DJCharlie> Is there any way to clear ALL route?
[22:29] <Slart> daftykins, maco: ahh... well.. I can live with that.. thanks
[22:29] <pen16> hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu but I don't want all the massive junk it comes with. What's the best way to create an ubuntu install that has basically nothing?
[22:30] <mementomori> hi
[22:30] <Slart> !minimal | pen16
[22:30] <acicula> bringing down the interfaces might remove the rules asociated with it?
[22:30] <pen16> thanks
[22:30] <Slart> pen16: I don't think it gets any smaller than that
[22:30] <acicula> dont do this if you'r logged in remotely though :)
[22:30] <daftykins> DJCharlie: not that i know of. looks weird that you're getting 254.254 when that'd be of no use at all.
[22:30] <pen16> cool
[22:30] <iceroot> DJCharlie: have a look at man route
[22:31] <DJCharlie> acicula: And when they come back up, the rules are there again.
[22:32] <piero> I'm creating a toolbar with my own icons using glade3. But I need to give a file with a GdkPixBuf and I just have png files. What can I do?
[22:32] <DJCharlie> iceroot: Did that, and I can't get it to delete the routes.
[22:33] <iceroot> DJCharlie: hm, i thought "del" is working for it but never tried
[22:33] <DJCharlie> iceroot: All that gives me is SIOCDELRT: No such process
[22:33] <mementomori> I've a laptop and a desktop pc. I also have an external 500gb hd. How can I backup them without having duplicated files on the hd and without having desktop files on the laptop (and viceversa)?
[22:34] <iceroot> DJCharlie: with sudo?
[22:34] <DJCharlie> iceroot: Yes, with sudo.
[22:34] <mementomori>   
[22:35] <daftykins> DJCharlie: can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[22:36] <DJCharlie> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/m49832994
[22:36] <DJCharlie> And here's my ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/m1bbeab21
[22:38] <Slart> mementomori: you want to backup your stuff on both the desktop and the laptop? and keep the backups on the external drive? but for files that exist on both computers you don't want to store two copies?
[22:38] <daftykins> DJCharlie: so your network goes how? cable -> eth0 of PC, eth1 of PC <-> firewall ?
[22:38] <infid> my netbook running ubuntu always has a hardtime seeing my internal network when i turn on my netbook. my ubuntu laptop doesn't though. any idea why this might be?
[22:38] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Close, but not quite.
[22:38] <daftykins> ok :)
[22:38] <DJCharlie> daftykins: DSL -> eth0 of PC.
[22:39] <mementomori> Slart, more or less
[22:39] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Then we have Firewall -> LAN -> eth1 of PC
[22:39] <DJCharlie> eth0 is a dedicated connection for the server.
[22:39] <DJCharlie> eth1 is for access from my lan.
[22:39] <mementomori> Slart, I dont want to backup on the "clients". I want to backup directly on the hd
[22:40] <Slart> mementomori: you could probably do it using rsync...but it will take some work.. it would be much easier if you didn't mind having some files twice
[22:40] <daftykins> DJCharlie: ooh-err, bit more complex than i can follow, what's the route of a packet out to the Internet from a client PC then?
[22:40] <daftykins> i don't quite get how the firewall PC + this router one connect
[22:41] <DJCharlie> daftykins: That would be: client pc -> Firewall -> outside
[22:41] <DJCharlie> daftykins: The ONLY thing eth1 should connect to is the local lan. it shouldn't be using the firewall.
[22:42] <Slart> mementomori: you could also just run the two separate backups and try to find identical files on the external drive and symlink those.. there has to be a utility that does that in the repos
[22:42] <jellow> When ever i startuo i have no sound and have to enable it in alsa mixer , Whats the fix?
[22:43] <mementomori> Slart, your second idea looks promising
[22:43] <daftykins> DJCharlie: hmm that's not how i'd do it, i'd just have the one machine with two interfaces firewall'ing and routing. don't see the need for two separate subnets
[22:43] <sevenseeker> so ubuntu 9.10's and 10.4's (current) gparted does not grok my osx 10.6 hfs+ partition on an external drive, should I try a gparted livecd? (dev)
[22:44] <DJCharlie> daftykins: This system is a server for kjsr.net's streaming feed. We have a dedicated DSL connection for it on eth0.
[22:44] <DJCharlie> daftykins: eth1 is just for local access to the shared drives.
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> sevenseeker:  for many filesystms that are not linux 'standard' you need to have installed some extra support tools for gparted to properly do things with them. No idea if this is the case for HFS+
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> sevenseeker:  but it is the case for ntfs
[22:46] <neil_d> can you download a multi-boot dvd with both ubuntu and kubuntu on it?
[22:46] <daftykins> DJCharlie: ok sorry i don't really follow well enough to help. if i wanted to get rid of those routes though i'd either reinstall the OS or backup and delete interfaces to try from scratch
[22:46] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Way too drastic.
[22:46] <sevenseeker> Dr_Willis: yeah I was afraid of that, because I installed everything even remotely related to hfs available, no dice
[22:46] <sevenseeker> thanks
[22:49] <KinkyKamikaze> Excuse me, I am running ubuntu and when trying to create a new window in my screen session I get fork: Cannot allocate memory
[22:49] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: means you are out of memory
[22:49] <KinkyKamikaze> How do I release some or "purge" as it is called in OS X.
[22:49] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: YEah.. I got 3 gb...
[22:49] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: ur still out
[22:50] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: How the hell can a x-less system take that much
[22:50] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: can you post free -a
[22:50] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: running some server of some kind?
[22:50] <patcito> acicula, there is no free -a
[22:50] <acicula> my bad
[22:50] <Slart> mementomori: finddup looks promising to do the hardlinking thing
[22:50] <acicula> -m
[22:51] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: -/+ buffers/cache:       1600       1392
[22:51] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: Not really. rTorrent (thats empty), irssi, bitlbee, apache (nothing on Apache)
[22:51] <Slart> !info perforate | mementomori
[22:51] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: hmm, nothing spectacularly wrong with that
[22:52] <JoeSomebody> hi, someone was telling me of a package that will save all my config, packages, and whatever i have installed / set up (in karmic) can be packed up and moved to another (clean) machine, anyone know what/where that is?
[22:52] <mementomori> thanks!
[22:52] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: lots of processes running perhaps?
[22:52] <JoeSomebody> i got a faster box to try :)
[22:52] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: Still I hate to reboot the server to be able to run more screens
[22:52] <grendal_prime> does anyone know of a vidconferenceing client that works with office live meeting.
[22:52] <shizzle> created another user and added them to the admin group. Should this give them all the access the need to modify any files on the FS?
[22:52] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: Hwo do  I check that
[22:52] <Slart> !clone | JoeSomebody
[22:52] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: ps ufax, or top
[22:52] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: more screens?
[22:53] <Slart> JoeSomebody: not sure if any of those sound familiar
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> JoeSomebody:  thers proberly some more specific tools to backup/move the users config files also.
[22:53] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: More windows in a screen that is
[22:53] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: Ok, I can't tell if it is too much or too little processes
[22:53] <acicula> cp, tar
[22:53] <JoeSomebody> that was it thanks :)
[22:53] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: ps ufax | wc and post the output of that
[22:54] <acicula> its a pipe |
[22:54] <acicula> (counts ;))
[22:54] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula:  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[22:54] <KinkyKamikaze> 24886 seivan    18  -2  126m  36m  30m S    1  1.2  11:26.11 rtorrent
[22:54] <KinkyKamikaze> Sorry
[22:54] <grendal_prime> my office just switched over to windows live office (yippe) and im tying to figure out if im going to need to run a windows vm for the live meetings.
[22:55] <daftykins> eww windows live :S
[22:55] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: http://gist.github.com/284260
[22:55] <aliendude3500> Hey guys, I know this channel is primarily for Ubuntu support, but I would like to ask you all to take a minute of your time to vote in favor of a petition to get official Linux support for the Unity3D web player. This player is being used for more and more interactive web content, and I think it would be great if this content would also be available to Unity users. The main reason that Unity isn't officially supported
[22:55] <aliendude3500>  on Linux is because they don't realize that there ARE Linux users who want to see Unity on their platform. The URL to the voting page is http://feedback.unity3d.com/forums/15792-unity/suggestions/164961
[22:55] <acicula> aliendude3500: not the right place to ask
[22:55] <daftykins> !ot | aliendude3500
[22:56] <neil_d> what would this file be http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.zsync ?
[22:56] <JoeSomebody> i would like to save my xchat, modified theme, samba stuff, packages, pretty much everything if i can
[22:56] <shizzle> created another user and added them to the admin group. Should this give them all the access the need to modify any files on the FS?
[22:56] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: nothing wrong with that either
[22:57] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: what program gives the fork error
[22:57] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: screen
[22:57] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: you type screen and it fails?
[22:57] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: how many screens are you running already?
[22:57] <KinkyKamikaze> 1
[22:57] <acicula> so you type screen and you get the fork error or?
[22:58] <plustax> Problem. Everything just went black and white. I hit control something then all of a sudden everything is black and white
[22:58] <KinkyKamikaze>  Aciid 3566.pts-0.debby(10/15/2009 04:56:52 PM)(Detache
[22:58] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: No
[22:58] <Slart> plustax: it's probably a compiz setting
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> plustax:  if you mean on the Desktop - there is some compiz features to do that. Check the CCSM tool and its keybindings.
[22:58] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: I press ctrl-a c
[22:58] <KinkyKamikaze> acicula: To make a new window inside the screen
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[22:58] <acicula> plustax: are you just seeing some text?
[22:58] <KinkyKamikaze> and I get  a memory out..
[22:59] <Slart> plustax: try ALT+M
[22:59] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: odd
[22:59] <plustax> worked!
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> Compiz has somne really neat featires.. but its hard to figure out what keycombos are all in use. They need a tool that just prints out a 'cheat sheet' of what keybindings are in use
[22:59] <acicula> KinkyKamikaze: if you exit the current screen and restart it, same behavior?
[22:59] <infid> how can i tell if ubuntu is using PAM or some other authentication?
[22:59] <Slart> plustax: the plugin is called "Negative".. it's in the compiz config settings managers Accessability section
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> Win(super)-M here inverts the display
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[23:00] <Slart> m
[23:00] <Slart> oops
[23:00] <ner0x> How can I make sure my computer gets the same IP address from my router everytime WITHOUT using a MAC filter.
[23:01] <acicula> ner0x: tell your router to assign the same ip, or use a fixed ip on the computer
[23:01] <erUSUL> ner0x: you can not; you can disable dhcp and use static ip's though
[23:01] <ner0x> erUSUL: I think that's the route I'd like to take.
[23:02] <Slart> ner0x: most sane DHCP server implementations hand out the same ip to the same computer (if it's available and so on).. I think most use the MAC address to remember the computer.. not sure what you mean by MAC filter though
[23:02] <jess^> hey, is there any way to tell the text mode installer i don't have a cdrom so it shouldn't look for one?  i'm trying to do a ubuntu 9.10 server install off a usb stick.
[23:02] <ner0x> Slart: Checking the MAC address and assigning the IP address accordingly.
[23:03] <ner0x> How can I stop using DHCP,first off?
[23:03] <erUSUL> ner0x: the thing is if you do not want to use a MAC<-->IP assignemet you rule out the only way a dhcp server can assing you a deterministic ip address
[23:03] <DJCharlie> daftykins: Got the routing fixed, I think... But web is still down.
[23:03] <Slart> ner0x: hmm.. it all depends on the dhcp server.. some implements a parameter you can send ... apart from that I don't know..
[23:04] <erUSUL> ner0x: disable it in your router? (keep in mind dhcp may be giving you more than the ip; dns servers for instance)
[23:04] <Slart> ner0x: what is wrong with using the MAC-address to match against previous ip leases?
[23:05] <Hinata> Hi I have a bit of a problem... my mouse just stopped to work (I tried on 3 different computer...) I was wondering if there was a way to use a joypad as a mouse for the time I get a new mouse (all stores are closed right now...)
[23:05] <daftykins> ner0x: there is no option other than static DHCP leases on the router web interface.
[23:05] <daftykins> well, unless you have an OS the supports asking for the same one every time via DHCP which OS X seems to have.
[23:05] <daftykins> s/the/that/
[23:06] <erUSUL> infid: ubuntu uses pam yes
[23:06] <Slart> Hinata: have you tried using the Mouse Keys feature? it's in System, preferences, keyboard
[23:06] <chazco> Hi... anyone able to recommend a good guide on setting up lirc in Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:07] <Hinata> Slart: how do I do that w/o a mouse?
[23:07] <ner0x> Slart: I need it to be a specific IP address.
[23:07] <Slart> Hinata: I think that lets you use the numeric keypad to control the mouse pointer.. it's not very practical.. but it might get you through the weekend
[23:07] <Slart> Hinata: ah.. tricky.. didn't think of that =) let me see if I can find an alternative way of enabling that
[23:07] <sa000> anyone did windows 7 image with clonezilla ?
[23:08] <duffydack> sa000, yup
[23:08] <daftykins> Hinata: Alt+F1 to get the menu then cursor keys to navigate
[23:08] <Hinata> oh that's brilliant
[23:08] <sa000> duffydack: any doc
[23:09] <daftykins> Hinata: you're not a Naruto fan are you? ;)
[23:09] <sa000> duffydack: i neverd used clonezilla before
[23:09] <duffydack> sa000, clonezilla.org
[23:09] <sa000> i know this website
[23:09] <Hinata> h it worked
[23:09] <Hinata> daftykins: no I'm not
[23:09] <sa000> i m looking for doc that specially related to windows 7 cloning
[23:09] <Slart> Hinata: ahh.. CTRL+SHIFT+NUMLOCK enables the mouse keys
[23:10] <Hinata> that worked it's wonderfull ^ ^
[23:10] <Hinata> though I'de be curious to know what emulated the right click
[23:11] <duffydack> sa000, it does win7 and linux the same.
[23:11] <duffydack> sa000, just images it..with mbr and other stuff
[23:12] <sa000> ok
[23:12] <mick__> yay got it working at last :-)
[23:14] <Kentrel> Hi. Can someone give me a technical reason or any reason really, why NTFS drives tend to not be mounted by default in many linux distros, including the Dual boot user friendly Ubuntu?
[23:14] <daftykins> Kentrel: NTFS functionality isn't 100% so it's best to not have people accidentally corrupt their NTFS volumes.
[23:14] <Slart> Hinata:  / *  -   selects which mouse button to "operate".. left, middle, right  .. pressing 5 presses the selected button
[23:15] <KinkyKamikaze> how do I do that
[23:17] <Kentrel> dafty, I see. that makes sense. Thanks
[23:17] <Hinata> Slart: oh thanks
[23:19] <Kentrel> So how do I get ubuntu to mount them without asking for a password anytime. I have a password at login - thats the only security I need for my drives
[23:19] <VCoolio> Kentrel: edit /etc/fstab
[23:20] <Kentrel> k
[23:20] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Kentrel
[23:20] <electronicsjar> does anyone here know of a good channel to ask about gnu mailman?
[23:20] <Kentrel> thanks
[23:21] <Hinata> Slart, daftykins well many thanks you just saved my day ^ ^
[23:21] <Slart> Hinata: you're welcome
[23:23] <VCoolio> Kentrel: in fstab it should be a line like "[/dev/sda1] [/media/something] ntfs[-3g] user,defaults 0 0" the parts between [ ] unsure
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Hi
[23:24] <electronicsjar> does anyone here know of a good channel to ask about gnu mailman?
[23:25] <Kentrel> #gnu ?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Kentrel: I thought about maybe suggesting that :D
[23:26] <wolter> Hi, how can I open a terminal with a script and leave it open after the script exists?
[23:26] <erUSUL> wolter: run "exec bash" as the last command ?
[23:27] <wolter> erUSUL, i do but gnome-terminal closes either way
[23:28] <wolter> erUSUL, or doesn't give the $ and stays blank
[23:29] <infid> erUSUL: if ubuntu uses pam why does /etc/ssh_config not say anything about PAM, but does say things about GSSAPI?
[23:29] <ardchoille> wolter: Does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1174884.html
[23:29] <blakkheim> infid: check sshd_config
[23:29] <linxeh> why would the client config know anything about PAM ?
[23:30] <Helsinkiii> I am having trouble connecting via SSH to a remote server. I get a ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host error
[23:30] <erUSUL> infid: ubuntu != openssh server
[23:30] <chuckf>  /who #ubuntu-men
[23:30] <infid> erUSUL: thanks
[23:30] <linxeh> Helsinkiii: ssh -v ?
[23:30] <infid> blakkheim: thanks
[23:30] <erUSUL> infid: i was refering to the login process to the system
[23:30] <wolter> ardchoille, thanks :)
[23:30] <erUSUL> infid: /etc/pam.conf /etc/pam.d/* etc ...
[23:30] <infid> i understand now
[23:30] <ardchoille> wolter: yw :)
[23:30] <Helsinkiii> linxeh: i got some debug1: lines and same error at the end
[23:31] <Helsinkiii> linxeh: stuff like  identity file /home/amoskovitz/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
[23:35] <Luser> I see that munin was finally accepted to be updated to 1.4.3 on the 20th. Is there an "incoming" directory at ubuntu like debian. I need munin 1.4.x
[23:36] <stopmv> hi is there any Great AUDIO CONVERTER ?
[23:36] <blakkheim> stopmv: ffmpeg
[23:36] <Ademan> anyone know a way to list all *available* filesystems from the command line? SystemRescueCD has something, it outputs something like  [ /dev/sda1 ] [ ntfs ] [ Disk Label ] [ 120.0 GB ]
[23:37] <marcuy> fs<tabulator> Ademan
[23:37] <Slart> Luser: I don't think ubuntu updates packages unless there is a security issue
[23:37] <stopmv> Blakkeim does it have GUI
[23:37] <blakkheim> stopmv: no, you don't need one
[23:38] <stopmv> im sure i need one =)
[23:38] <Slart> Luser: there are some extra repos you can enable in the software sources dialog.. "proposed" is one.. I don't remember what the others are called.. I wouldn't recommend enabling these just for one package though
[23:38] <blakkheim> stopmv: sudo aptitude install ffmpeg; man ffmpeg
[23:38] <Slart> Ademan: df?
[23:38] <Luser> Slart, no, 1.2.x is not used anymore. and it's not compatible with 1.4.x and that's what I use on my debian. so my ubuntu and debian can not exchange munin data
[23:38] <acicula> stopmv: im sure audacity can but its more of a sound editor then converter , though im sure it does it well
[23:38] <Ademan> Slart: doesn't that only show mounted ones?
[23:39] <Luser> Slart, is lucid the equivalent of sid?
[23:39] <Luser> unstable
[23:39] <stopmv> acicula: better than commands ty
[23:39] <Slart> Ademan: ah... yes..not really sure what to use then
[23:39] <Slart> Luser: nope.. ubuntu doesn't use rolling updates like that
[23:39] <Ademan> marcuy: i don't see anything that looks like what i want, two i don't know what they do though so i'll check their man pages
[23:39] <Slart> Luser: lucid is the next version though.. it will be released in april
[23:39] <Slart> !lucid | Luser
[23:39] <acicula> lucid is the equivalent of might kill your dog
[23:40] <marcuy> Ademan: this would be the better solution
[23:40] <grndslm> karmic and lucid are great adjectives
[23:40] <grndslm> A+
[23:40] <Slart> !info munin
[23:40] <Slart> !info munin lucid
[23:40] <acicula> well not really, but its beta, prone to breackage, and most likely at some point will hose your system
[23:40] <marcuy> !info Ademan
[23:40] <stopmv> blackkeim ty also
[23:40] <Luser> 1.2.6, was asked in november to be upgraded to the new stable munin code.
[23:40] <Fudge> im logged into a mates ubuntu over ssh, is there a way I can msg him so he sees it on his desktop, gnome
[23:41] <Ademan> Fudge: yes
[23:41] <Luser> so I'll install the debian package then..
[23:41] <Ademan> Fudge: do you have admin though?
[23:41] <Fudge> yes adb_monster
[23:41] <Ademan> and what version
[23:41] <Fudge> Ademan sry
[23:41] <Slart> Luser: perhaps it's easier to compile it from source then
[23:41] <Fudge> 904
[23:42] <Ademan> Fudge: ok yeah there's a command to use those toaster popups
[23:42] <Luser> Slart, or "backport to ubuntu" using debian package source
[23:42] <Ademan> Fudge: need to remember what it was though
[23:42] <Luser> Slart, I don't like having non-packaged stuff
[23:42] <Ademan> although dbus would do
[23:42] <Fudge> k mate thatd be great if u look up and not down you may remember faster
[23:42] <Fudge> hwo does dbus deliver it
[23:42] <Slart> !checkinstall |  Luser
[23:43] <Slart> Luser: with that you'll get the best of both worlds =)
[23:43] <marcuy> !amsn
[23:43] <marcuy> where is the documentation of the #ubuntu bots?
[23:43] <Ademan> marcuy: /msg ubottu help   ?
[23:44] <Pici> !usage | marcuy
[23:44] <marcuy> nice Pici , Ademan
[23:44] <Ruge> Hi folks, anyone know why my fresh install of Ubuntu keeps changing resolution each time I reboot?
[23:45] <Ruge> Just a minute ago i had 1600x1200, I reset and now my max is 1152x864
[23:45] <Slart> Ruge: have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log . It has information about why a certain mode was chosen
[23:45] <Ruge> Slart: Oh cool thanks. Its just strange that at certain times I can get certain resolutions.
[23:46] <Slart> Ruge: indeed.. and they say computers are consistent =)
[23:46] <Ruge> My computer is not meant to be temperamental!
[23:46] <Ruge> ;-)
[23:47] <mick__> I gave up trying to use IIRC and am relying on a graphical client, at least I can see what is going on now :-)
[23:47] <marcuy> mick__: try irssi
[23:47] <Ruge> I like xChat
[23:48] <mick__> I tried Xchat, cant see all the names as it scrolls off screen
[23:48] <Ruge> really?
[23:48] <mick__> i will try irssi as per suggestion for now using the mozlilla one
[23:48] <mick__> i think its xchat, you have to click the button to see the list of names
[23:48] <Ruge> my xchat
[23:48] <Ruge> has a nicklist on the right
[23:49] <mick__> xchat-gnome sorry
[23:49] <Ruge> all i typed was "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[23:49] <mick__> is what i installed :-(
[23:49] <Ruge> and i got this xchat with the nicklist on the right
[23:49] <mick__> i tried to be clever..note the use of the word tried
[23:49] <xim_> i <3 xchat-gnome
[23:49] <mick__> and did a "sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome"
[23:49] <Ruge> the xchat I previously used had the button nicklist which i despised.
[23:49] <Ruge> i prefer the nicklist to the right, so give that a whirl
[23:49] <Luser> Slart, in fact in was only uploaded on the 14th of January in debian.
[23:50] <mick__> thats the one i installed ruge lol
[23:50] <xim_> is there any compression software like winzip, 7zip, winrar, etc in ubuntu?
[23:50] <marcuy> the most hackable client is irssi
[23:50] <mick__> yup sure is xim!
[23:50] <mick__> and its dead easy!
[23:50] <Ruge> mick__ o rly? but our clients look different!
[23:50] <mick__> i will try irssi, is it a graphical client marcuy?
[23:50] <Slart> xim_: lots.. there is a gui app called "file-roller" for gnome.. then there's lots of command line stuff
[23:50] <xim_> mick__, i hope its not TOO easy, the one that comes with ubuntu is so easy it doesnt work ;p
[23:50] <xim_> Slart, ok ill try that one!
[23:50] <mick__> lol
[23:50] <Slart> marcuy: got some documentation on that? just curious
[23:51] <krad> how to execute 2 commands with nohup?
[23:51] <marcuy> console based mick__
[23:51] <krad> sleep 1; sleep 2;
[23:51] <Slart> marcuy: or .. you meant.. hackable = customizable?
[23:51] <mick__> I hope so
[23:52] <marcuy> Slart: gui based are not so customizable like irssi
[23:52] <mick__> using chatzilla with firefox for now
[23:52] <marcuy> sure Slart, i guess it wasn't the most accurate term to say that ;)
[23:52] <xim_> Slart, does i have fileroller already, do i have to manually create an icon for it or is it in some place in the applications menu i cant find?
[23:52] <mick__> hey my first few sentences on irc so give me a break for now lol
[23:52] <Slart> marcuy: hehe.. for a second I thought you meant that irssi had security problems =)
[23:53] <linxeh> it does
[23:53] <marcuy> Slart: hah sorry didn't want to mean that, at least I hadn't found anyone yet! ;)
[23:53] <linxeh> its insecure about the future of mIRC
[23:53] <Slart> xim_: it's in the accessories menu.. but it's hidden for some reason.. if you go to system, preferences, Main Menu   you can unhide it.. it's called Archive Manager
[23:53] <marcuy> lol linxeh
[23:54] <erUSUL> xim_: it is better to call it and/or use it from the file manager context menus
[23:54] <xim_> erUSUL, it doesnt show from there like it should
[23:54] <mick__> i never thought about the fact it was hidden till just now and being using gnu-linux since redhat 4
[23:55] <xim_> Slart, thanks i didnt know things were hidden like that
[23:55] <mick__> its amazing what you learn you dont know by someone asking simple questions isnt it?
[23:55] <mick__> oh by redhat 4, i dont mean RHEL 4, i mean Redhat 4.2 way back when
[23:55] <Slart> xim_: I was a bit surprised as well.. well.. there it is.. if you want rar-support you'll have to install the rar libraries
[23:55] <Slart> !rar | xim_
[23:56] <mick__> I am looking forward to the classrooms tomorrow
[23:56] <marcuy> !amsn | marcuy
[23:56] <mick__> thats why i said i would come on here tonight to make sure I knew what i was doing for tomorrow :-)
[23:56] <Ruge> a +1 for unrar for me
[23:57] <marcuy> i prefer rar -x it's preinstalled
[23:57] <linxeh> mick__: redhat 4, or rhel4 ? :)
[23:57] <mick__> non windows user here by choice, at w**k/paid employment have to use it though
[23:57] <mick__> redhat 4 linuxeh
[23:57] <linxeh> mick__: :)
[23:57] <mick__> as in back in 95 or so
[23:57] <mick__> lol
[23:57] <linxeh> later than that I fear
[23:57] <edbian> mick__, Why such an old version?
[23:58] <linxeh> edbian: duh, new versions hadnt been written 10 years ago ?
[23:58] <mick__> no no, thats where i started to use linux!!!
[23:58] <linxeh> mick__: SLS here, then Slackware
[23:58] <mick__> not what i am using now :)
[23:58] <mick__> wow!!
[23:58] <mick__> yup remember slackware fondly too :)
[23:58] <xim_> why can it only split files in 7zip or rar format?
[23:58] <mick__> why can what only split them xim?
[23:58] <blakkheim> xim_: what format do you want?
[23:59] <erUSUL> xim_: becouse only those formats support splitting natively
[23:59] <xim_> i could have swarn ive been splitting zip files in windows for years...?
[23:59] <linxeh> xim_: you have
[23:59] <mick__> I have a 5 year old niece in Ireland using edubuntu on a cheap netbook, and 65 year old parents using kubuntu but with kde 3.5 as their main desktop