[01:24] <chance22> I have an old copy of xubuntu 7.10 I'd like to put on a ten year old laptop (600 MHz, 256MB RAM). Before I start, is 7.10 still supported, will it upgrade to the latest kernel, are there any security issues to be aware of? Thanks.
[01:32] <truenhero_> help me about nm-applet
[01:33] <knome> chance22, 7.10's EOL was April 18th, 2009.
[01:34] <knome> chance22, i don't know if there is any security concerns, but even if there will be, no updates will be available.
[01:34] <knome> !ask | truenhero_
[01:37] <truenhero_> el problema es que tengo xfce y me corre todo el nm-applet bien, pero cuando cambio de session a fluxbox no me arranca el nm-applet
[01:39] <chance22> Thanks knome. I think I'll look for another solution.
[01:39] <knome> !es | truenhero_
[01:41] <truenhero_> i have xfce, but when i start the fluxbox session, nm-applet dont start, and if i start manually, shows that the device is not managed
[01:41] <knome> truenhero_, do you have the same problem with xfce session?
[01:43] <truenhero_> no, on xfce nm-applet run nice
[01:43] <knome> truenhero_, if you run nm-applet from terminal in fluxbox, do you get any output?
[01:45] <truenhero_> yes but the zydas(usb dongle) dont appears
[01:45] <truenhero_> i cant see the wireless connections
[01:46] <knome> truenhero_, what's the output in terminal? do you get any error messages or warnings?
[01:46] <truenhero_> yes but Im  current on xfce
[01:49] <knome> well, i need to know the errors
[01:49] <truenhero_> hmmm, ok, but i see you here1?
[01:52] <truenhero_> well, another cuestion about nm-applet, if i want surf like user i must run nm-applet like user or root1??
[02:14] <knome> truenhero_, you should run nm-applet as normal user
[02:14] <knome> i'm going to sleep now
[02:14] <knome> good night and good lucj.
[02:14] <knome> *luck
[06:00] <baz> hey, where are the themes installed in the directory tree?
[06:01] <Balsaq> try right clicking on the desktop?
[06:02] <baz> well, i am not in xubuntu 9.10, i switched back to debian as I miss its stabilty and being able to do things like vga=0x345 (1600x1200) framebuffer and still have x come up.
[06:03] <Balsaq> i have had great luck with xubuntu 904
[06:03] <Balsaq> havent tried 910 yet
[06:03] <Sysi-> /usr/share/themes and ~/.themes
[06:03] <Balsaq> sysi!
[06:03] <Sysi-> there are gdm and window manager themes
[06:03] <Sysi-> ohai Balsaq
[06:03] <Balsaq> thank goodness you have arrived
[06:03] <baz> ah
[06:04] <Sysi-> no gdm, *gtk
[06:04] <baz> thanks a bunch
[06:04] <sparky13> hey a question people. are there any themes to make xubuntu similar in look etc to xp or vista or windows 7?
[06:04] <sparky13> prefferably xp
[06:05] <sparky13> i need this so that people who aren't so good with computers can get somewhere lol
[06:05] <Sysi-> at least for window borders there is xp-lookalike available by default
[06:06] <Sysi-> you can browse and searsh themes at http://xfce-look-org
[06:06] <Sysi-> themes from gnome-look also work, unless window borders
[06:07] <sparky13> sorry randomly exited
[06:07] <sparky13> wat was that site?
[06:07] <Sysi-> http://xfce-look-org
[06:08] <Sysi-> themes from gnome-look also work, unless window borders
[06:09] <sparky13> ok i'll go look
[06:20] <sparky13> how do i install the theme?
[06:20] <sparky13> i tried placing it in the .theme folder but there is none
[06:20] <sparky13> i have show hidden folders on
[06:21] <Awesome3000> sparky13  drag the archive into the apperances window
[06:22] <sparky13> and drop?
[06:22] <sparky13> it doesn't accept it as such
[06:30] <sparky13> ???
[07:19] <Sysi> if you need to place things in a folder that doesn't exist, create that folder
[09:21] <Eltornado> hi all
[09:21] <Sysi> !hi
[09:23] <Eltornado> i got i login window loop on my Xubuntu 9.10 after enaling and then disabling the option "show session seletction on login" don't remember exact the name of this option but this is the meaning
[09:28] <TheSheep> you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1 (switch back with alt+ctrl+f7 or f8), log in and examine the .xsessionerrors file
[09:31] <Eltornado> ok thanks
[09:32] <TheSheep> the most recent messages are at the end
[09:36] <Eltornado> i'm trying tp post it i use a virtual machine
[09:36] <Eltornado> :)
[09:39] <Eltornado> sorry i have to go to work now i will come back later with the xsession log
[09:39] <Eltornado> thanks for your help
[15:36] <Eltornado> hi all
[15:38] <Eltornado> using xubunut 9.10 i have a loop on the login window after enabling and disabling the option "show a list of previous session" on the session parameter
[15:47] <slow-motion> hi
[17:36] <SMQBlot> pöff pöff
[17:40] <SMQBlot> how do you register your nick on ubuntu server/freenode?
[17:40] <genii> !register
[17:48] <peterman> hello every body.....  someone spech spanish?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> ;!spanish
[17:48] <peterman> necesito alluda....
[17:48] <charlie-tca> !spanish
[17:49] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu channels can help with xubuntu, too.
[17:49] <peterman> ok...  thanks
[18:32] <maverick_> how do i get thunar to automount my ipod touch (after jailbreaking and following instructions), which happens automatically in nautilus and works just fine?
[18:36] <likemindead> Try this, maverick_ : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[18:36] <likemindead> (More or les...)
[18:37] <maverick_> ok checking it out..
[18:38] <likemindead> Also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:39] <maverick_> likemindead: nope, i cant see my ipod in fstab or gparted..its mounted in nautilus, any way i can get some info out of that?
[18:41] <maverick_> like dmesg or syslog, will that help?
[18:43] <maverick_> never mind, i got it solved
[19:07] <nigel_nb> hi, anyone having lernid working on xubuntu?
[19:07]  * eXpl0i7 Playing: Blind Business - Ghost Buster G
[19:07] <nigel_nb> can someone help confirm a bug?
[19:07] <likemindead> Not familiar with lernid. Sorry. :-\
[19:09] <nigel_nb> !lernid
[19:09] <nigel_nb> looks like ubottu doesn't know either
[19:10]  * eXpl0i7 Playing: Blind Business - Granja Na Livadi Nema
[19:11] <pleia2> eXpl0i7: please don't use that here
[19:11] <eXpl0i7> ohh
[19:11] <eXpl0i7> sorry
[19:11] <pleia2> nigel_nb: I'll install it in a bit, what's the trouble?
[19:12] <nigel_nb> pleia2, seems to be not working.  It runs initially
[19:12] <nigel_nb> then when you select and event and enter user name, does not connect
[19:13] <nigel_nb> um, osd-notify shows that you've connected and lernid disappears
[19:13] <pleia2> hmm
[19:14] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I think its built with too much gtk, not sure though
[19:16] <pleia2> nigel_nb: do you launch gnome services on startup?
[19:16] <nigel_nb> pleia2, no
[19:16] <nigel_nb> what is that?
[19:16] <pleia2> under settings > session and startup
[19:16] <pleia2> advanced tab
[19:17] <nigel_nb> pleia2, yep
[19:20] <pleia2> seems to work ok for me
[19:20] <nigel_nb> oh! ugh!
[19:20] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I'm doing something wrong then
[19:29] <nigel_nb> pleia2, you could connect into a classroom?
[19:31] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yep
[19:31] <nigel_nb> :(
[19:31] <nigel_nb> any suggestions?
[19:32] <pleia2> when you load it up and select a day, do you see a button in the -chat window asking to connect?
[19:32] <nigel_nb> I dont go that far
[19:33] <pleia2> that's the next step after selecting a day
[19:33] <pleia2> you can't select a day?
[19:33] <nigel_nb> after selecting a day and entering nick name, I see the notify, then it disappears
[19:34] <pleia2> right, then look in the -chat window
[19:34] <pleia2> there should be a button so you can connect
[19:34] <nigel_nb> I mean lernid disappears
[19:34] <pleia2> oh
[19:34] <pleia2> run lernid from a terminal and see why it's crashing
[19:36] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I'm not getting any clue from that http://paste.ubuntu.com/360835/
[19:37] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know enough about lernid or python to be helpful
[19:52] <SMQBlot> hello, how do you edit xfce menu? i have installed a game with wine through playonlinux that does not work, removed the prefix, but the shortcuts in the menu is still there, how do I remove them?
[19:58] <SMQBlot> found it, /home/nicklas/.config/menus/applications-merged
[20:46] <Xase> =/
[20:50] <TheSheep> !hi | Xase
[20:52] <Xase> It told me also that it wasn't apble to mount at /
[20:53] <Xase> oh well i installed xubuntu as ext4 but kboot reports that it cannot mount it, busybox# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root  ext3 cannot mount because of unsupported optional features
[20:54] <TheSheep> mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/root
[20:55] <Xase> tried just returns a mount failed
[20:55] <nigel_nb> sudo?
[20:55] <Xase> already root
[20:55] <TheSheep> Xase: dmesg doesn't say anything more?
[20:56] <Xase> You can access dmesg from busybox =/
[20:56] <Xase> ?
[20:56] <TheSheep> not sure
[20:56] <Xase> Sorry i'm kind of not too experienced with this
[20:56] <Xase> What does it refer to when it says rescue cd?
[20:56] <TheSheep> I'm guessing your / stopped mounting?
[20:57] <Xase> Well it hasn't mounted before either.
[20:57] <Xase> But yes.
[20:57] <TheSheep> btw, try fdisk -l do list the partitions, maybe it's not sda1
[20:57] <Xase> For all intents and purposes, the bootloader can not find a root fs
[20:57] <Xase> alright
[20:58] <TheSheep> is this some strange hardware?
[20:58] <TheSheep> maybe the kernel has problems seeing the disks
[20:58] <TheSheep> some boot option may be needed
[20:58] <Xase> Well it is a ppc based system... hence the kboot.
[20:58] <TheSheep> !ppc
[20:59] <Xase> but all fixes applicable to x86 should apply I believe.
[20:59] <TheSheep> hmm..
[20:59] <TheSheep> you might ask on #ubuntu-ppc
[20:59] <TheSheep> they are more familiar
[20:59] <TheSheep> with this
[20:59] <Xase> Perhaps... but is there a way to edit /etc/fstab from busybox?
[20:59] <Sysi> what version of xubuntu?
[20:59] <Xase> 9.10
[21:00] <Sysi> do i remember right that tehe was no version for ppc?
[21:01] <Sysi> no, there is..
[21:01] <Xase> There is :D
[21:01] <Xase> I'm using it ;)
[21:02] <Sysi> well it propably won't boot even to installation otherly
[21:03] <Xase> It installed fine =/
[21:03] <Xase> Just it cannot find the root fs now.
[21:03] <Xase> Do you mean other options?
[21:04] <Sysi> has it worked before?
[21:04] <Xase> Yeah, with 9.04
[21:04] <Xase> But I used ext3 that time
[21:05] <Sysi> but that current installation?
[21:05] <Xase> The current install is ext4
[21:05] <Xase> Is there a way to convert it from ext4 to ext3 with just busybox?
[21:06] <TheSheep> you can probably force mounting it as ext3
[21:06] <TheSheep> but that may result in corruption of large files
[21:06] <TheSheep> if you modify them
[21:07] <Sysi> best way to do that change is reinstall
[21:07] <Xase> ....
[21:07] <Xase> Hmm
[21:07] <Xase> Okay
[21:09] <Xase> bbs
[21:16] <Xase> Dreadfully slow it is...
[21:39] <Xase> 60% done,,,
[22:17] <becker_11> Can anyone suggest a reason as to why my panel didn't start when I rebooted ?? or how I can bring it back?
[22:18] <Sysi> !panels
[22:19] <becker_11> Sysi, thanks I have a panel!
[22:19] <Sysi> np :)
[22:20] <becker_11> in other pc related weirdness when I restart "all" my sound levels master, pcm, pc speaker etc are muted
[22:20] <becker_11> I can't figure it out
[22:20] <Sysi> that's just common bug
[22:21] <Sysi> google knows a lot about it
[22:21] <becker_11> Sysi,  oh  good at least I'm not finding new ones :-)
[22:21] <becker_11> will go hit google then
[22:21] <Sysi> well, it's as old as karmic
[22:21] <Sysi> oh right :D
[22:22] <becker_11> does xubuntu release at the same time as ubuntu or is there a delay ?
[22:22] <Sysi> same time
[22:22] <Sysi> at least it should
[22:23] <becker_11> cool I'm planning a complete system reinstall when the new release comes out .... going to repartion my drive as I only need winxp for my iphone and gps and leave the greater part for linux
[22:23] <becker_11> was thinking 50gb for win 450gb for lin
[23:16] <crowds> My 'workspaces' occasionally get renamed to their defaults after restart, has anyone experienced this before?