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gino_xdcc00:03
Windopaini always see screenshots of rather unique desktop configurations... are there any decent sites w/ walkthroughs on how to setup non-default configurations?00:25
daskreechWindopain: Such as?00:30
Windopainjust various looks/feels for the desktop00:30
Windopaindon't have anything specific at the moment00:30
Windopainkinda an abstract question... guess it's either, "yeah, thissite.com" or "wtf are you talkinga bout" :)00:31
[Relic]daskreech, in the old version it would just be a normal file list or thumbnails, in the live cd I couldn't find any way of showing just a file list, it always had thumbnails in gwenview00:32
daskreech[Relic]: Far as I know it's just thumbnails. What would you want with a plain listing?00:34
[Relic]animations that at 24 frames a second will all look quite the same00:35
daskreechWindopain: I know what you are talking about about but it's a lot of variety out there00:35
daskreech[Relic]: There would be no animations with a plain listing :)00:36
[Relic]precisely I could just pick the frame to check that I needed rather than being distracted by the other 2400+ thumbnails00:36
daskreech[Relic]: Ah you have a whole set of photos that all look the same?00:37
daskreechSo you know what you are looking for by name?00:38
[Relic]you can easily end up with a lot that look very similair, also seems like a waste of resources to thumbnail everything00:38
daskreechThumbnails are shared in KDE so not that much of a waste00:39
daskreechDolphin uses them etc00:39
daskreech[Relic]: So how do you identify them?00:41
[Relic]most are simply numerically sequenced however with the the thumbnails only not too many per page, was like 2x3 times on the normal list vs thumbnails.  Not sure I saw a way to reduce the thumbnail size either, but didn't really play with it much on the new live cd00:44
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daskreech[Relic]: at the bottom right there is a slider to get the thumbnails larger or smaller at the bottom left there is a filter so you can filter out ranges or whatever00:47
Windopainwhy would gnome system monitor be running when i'm using kde?00:55
daskreechCause you started it somehow?00:56
Windopainhmm.  sounds like something id do00:59
[Relic]one more reason not to allow gnomes into your computer  :)00:59
daskreech:-)01:00
daskreechWindopain: If you want you can make an activity then play with your desktop01:00
[Relic]which version of FF is current for kubuntu?01:00
Windopaindamn, running two VMs simultaneously has brought my system to its knees ... if i find the job# of one can i kill it through a terminal and not affect the other?01:01
daskreech3.501:14
daskreechWindopain: yes01:15
cjaeHi, sorry to ask but I cant seem to get it, I deleted my kdewallet since I had forgotten the password to send and check mail, I do not want to have to store my pop password with kmail, how do I re-enable kwallet with kontact?01:45
cjaeI created a new wallet "My Wallet" and set it in kde control module01:45
cjaestill prompts for pop password01:45
cjaeInstalled: 4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa201:45
meowbuntuhi i have a vailed ubuntu os i am wanting to know if there is a kubuntu repo i can add01:50
meowbuntuhi i have a vailed ubuntu os i am wanting to know if there is a kubuntu repo i can add02:05
Riddellkarmic testers for KDE SC 4.4 RC 2 needed02:05
Riddellmeowbuntu: install kubuntu-desktop if you want kubuntu02:06
meowbuntuRiddell, are you sure kubuntu is already a fully tested os02:06
meowbuntuand stidio02:06
meowbuntuy need to test kde when kubuntu02:07
RiddellI don't know what you're talking about02:07
meowbuntuyou said   <Riddell> karmic testers for KDE SC 4.4 RC 2 needed02:07
meowbuntukubuntu has been finalised.02:08
Riddellbecause it's a new version of KDE02:09
meowbuntuo i c is that not for ubuntu 9.202:10
meowbuntu9.2002:10
meowbuntuthe version after karmic02:10
macothere is no 9.2002:13
macounless on your planet there are 20 months in a year02:13
maco:P02:13
meowbuntumaco the version after karmic as i said02:13
maco10.0402:13
meowbuntuok point02:13
macoand kde sc 4.4 is going into karmic-backports i assume...02:13
macoRiddell: right?02:13
Riddellbeta PPA02:14
meowbuntumaco you the guy in #ubuntu02:19
macoi am in #ubuntu, but i am not a guy02:19
meowbuntureally then what are you a cat02:21
macoRiddell: last you saw me, what species and gender was i?02:22
Riddella lovely lady02:22
macothank you dear02:23
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maco!away | meowbuntu-afk02:25
ubottumeowbuntu-afk: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»02:25
macoRiddell: wait wait but when its the final release, its going to stay in the beta ppa?02:25
Riddellmaco: no then it'll go to updates02:26
meowbuntu-afkmaco, i did not use any away message just changed my nick so ppl know i'm away02:51
macomeowbuntu-afk: that's what it's talking about02:51
macothe /nick shows a line in everyone channel02:51
macowhereas if you just /away, it marks you as away in the nick list on the client without spamming every channel02:51
meowbuntu-afknope not exactly02:54
meowbuntu-afka long away message would be like this02:55
macoit doesn't say "long" it says "noisy"02:55
maconoisy = we can see it02:55
macojust using /away marks you away silently02:55
meowbuntu-afkmaco hope you saw that02:56
meowbuntu-afkeither or alot of ppl use -afk if they are away. you are teh first person to mention this and i been using freenode for 6-8 months02:57
macothis is #*ubuntu* channel rules, not freenode server rules02:58
maco(* being a wildcard)02:58
meowbuntuhi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media??03:21
werfactmeowbuntu: what do you mean sometimes03:26
meowbuntudoes not matter. old comp03:28
meowbuntujust need a low resorce webbrowser that can still play flashmedia ok03:28
Screamo_SmurfAnyone know anything about speeding up Kubuntu by disabling stuff i dont need?03:43
happyScreamo_Smurf: there are so few extra things... are you finding it is slow?03:46
happythe first thing I would remove is compositing03:46
Screamo_Smurfhappy im running a 800mhz 370mb pc :/03:47
happyin that case do not use KDE03:47
macouse xfce03:47
macoor maybe just lxde03:47
happyI would not suggest gnome on that either03:47
Screamo_Smurflol03:47
Screamo_Smurfi dont like gnome or xfce :S03:47
happyI would go with maco's suggetiong03:48
Screamo_Smurfkde is fast enough for me03:48
macooooh or enlightenment. i used e17 on my old pentium203:48
Screamo_Smurfits actualy a little faster then gnome03:48
happyScreamo_Smurf: On machines that bad I use icewm :-P03:48
Screamo_Smurfwell sadly im used to poorly performing pcs03:48
Screamo_Smurfthis pc with kubuntu runs faster then my 1.7gh 1gb winxp pc03:48
happyScreamo_Smurf: I am used to cutting down on stuff until it makes "poorly performing pcs" look like multi million dollar super computers :-P03:49
happylol03:49
Screamo_Smurfso how do i make it run a bit faster lol03:50
happyno idea :-P03:51
Screamo_Smurf:/03:51
Screamo_Smurfi opened system monitor and noticed there was alot of stuff running in the background...03:51
Screamo_Smurftheres no way i need all of it running03:52
Screamo_Smurfalso i dont like how it like saves sessions :/03:52
Screamo_Smurf:////03:58
happyScreamo_Smurf: then disable it03:58
Screamo_Smurfwhere lol03:58
Screamo_Smurfive onbly been using Kubuntu for 12 hours03:58
happyScreamo_Smurf: I do not play with most of the gui stuff :-P03:58
happyI will look03:59
happybut I know about as much as you about configuring kde. And I have been using it for years :-\03:59
Screamo_Smurflol03:59
happyit is under system settings -> advanced -> session manager04:00
Screamo_Smurfi also have 2 hd's id like to be automagicly mounted at startup04:00
* happy figures as long as he is here he should disable it himself04:00
happyScreamo_Smurf: the only way I know how to do that is with fstab. Have you used other linuxes before?04:01
Screamo_Smurfubuntu for the past 22days lol04:01
happylol04:01
happyScreamo_Smurf: why do you need it automatically mounted?04:01
Screamo_Smurfbut i know more then most ppl would at this point04:01
happy:-)04:02
Screamo_Smurfbecuz on is my ubuntu hdd and the other has all my music on it04:02
Screamo_Smurfi cant play music unless i mount it first04:02
happyScreamo_Smurf: why don't you run ubuntu and kubuntu on the same system?04:02
Screamo_Smurfdont like the clutter lol04:02
happyyou can switch between them without restarting04:02
happyok04:02
Screamo_Smurfwhy does everybody ask me that04:02
happyyou should be able to mount it through dolphin04:03
happybut I have never actuall tried it... (I am new to the whole gui thing :-P)04:03
Screamo_Smurfi can mount it thru dolphin04:03
Screamo_Smurfbut04:03
happyScreamo_Smurf: it should show up as a volume in dolphin04:04
Screamo_Smurfim lazy04:04
happylol04:04
Screamo_Smurfi dont want to have to manualy mount it to listen to music04:04
happyScreamo_Smurf: all you need to do is the icon. Then you can browse your music :-P04:04
Screamo_Smurfyea but i want it AUTOMAGICLY done :/04:05
happyok04:05
happy!fstab04:06
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:06
happyScreamo_Smurf: automounting partitions is still a config file thing04:06
RoeyHello05:42
RoeyI can't hear sound all of a sudden, and mpg123 gives me errors:  http://pastebin.com/m4dfb857e  <-- sound doesn't play for me, not with mpg123 and not with amarok.  It says it cannot open hw1,005:43
RoeyI have noticed it since apt-get upgrading.  I upgraded these packages:  http://pastebin.com/m7a585a2b05:44
Roeyhola de nuevo, ze05:44
Roey*zetheroo05:44
zetherooRoey: howdy05:44
zetheroo:)05:44
Roey:>05:44
RoeyI appreicate your dedication05:44
zetheroohaha05:45
zetheroohave you tried playing audio through FF?05:45
RoeySo I tried it with Fx open and it still doens't play05:46
zetherooand what about playing a Flash vid in FF?05:46
zetherooany audio?05:46
Roeylemme check05:46
Roeyzetheroo:  nope05:47
Roeyjust video05:47
zetheroook05:47
Roeyyeah. I just have no idea.05:48
zetheroovery odd ... because it seems that most people have this issue but with FF and not with the other players05:48
RoeyI did sudo fuser -v /snd/*05:49
Roeyand got only kmix05:49
zetherooI don't use Kubuntu so I am not sure how the audio options would work there ... but is there a place to change your audio output hardware device?05:50
RoeyI don't thgink it makes a difference?05:52
zetherooI was just wondering because it says it cannot open hw1,0 ....05:53
Roeyah05:53
Roeywell I tried with other devices through amarok and got the same thing05:53
RoeyI understand05:53
crimsunyou need to use sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq*05:54
zetherooI am also asking in #alsa for you ...05:54
crimsunno need, zetheroo; I'm reading here.05:54
zetheroocrimsun: are you from the #alsa camp? :)05:54
zetheroook .. cool05:54
Roeycrimsun:  I've just been doing sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*05:59
Roeycrimsun:  /dev/dsp:            roey      24296 F.... python06:01
Roeycrimsun:  oh, that was minirok06:02
Roeykilled minirok, I can play mpg12306:02
zetherooRoey: so what was the problem?06:04
crimsunRoey: on your system, anything that uses /dev/dsp will block native alsa apps06:04
crimsunRoey: i.e., because your sound card does not have hardware support for pcm multiopen06:05
Roeyzetheroo:  ah, that minirok hogged something06:06
Roeyguess it doesn't use alsa?06:06
Roeyright06:07
crimsunit uses alsa's oss emulation, and your hw doesn't support multiopen06:07
zetheroook .. interesting .. good to know06:07
Roeyok06:07
Roeyhow do you know this?06:07
zetherooRoey: he is damn clever :P06:07
Roey;)06:07
crimsunit's black magick06:07
Roey:)06:08
Karhuhi everyone...i was owndering if anyone can tell me the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" in adept manager06:13
Karhuwondering*06:13
werfactKarhu: i thought it was safe and full06:14
UK-DOHow to start PPP broadband on Kubuntu I need to connect thru ethernet adpter to DHCP and then again needs to dial to connect the net how do I configure modem thingy06:35
* krash_n_burn grumbles07:20
krash_n_burnOkay, I just did an install of kubuntu 10.4 me guesses, well my grub is all messed up...07:21
krash_n_burncan I just put /dev/sda5 in there instead of the uuid crap?07:21
krash_n_burnor is there an easier way to fix it, I'm kinda tired and wanted to get this up and running quickly :P07:22
pat|nGmornin07:48
shadeslayerpat|nG: afternoon :)07:48
pat|nGjust installed xchat but i can't find it07:48
pat|nGwhere can i find my xchat newly installed?07:49
shadeslayerpat|nG: press : Alt+F2 > Type xchart07:50
shadeslayerum xhat07:50
shadeslayertypos all the way :P07:50
shadeslayerpat|nG: did it open?07:51
pat|nGcan't see anything07:52
pat|nGi pressed alt f207:52
shadeslayerpat|nG: which KDE?07:52
shadeslayerKDE version i mean07:52
pat|nGi got kde407:52
pat|nGkubuntu 9.1007:53
shadeslayerpat|nG: the one which is installed by default? or did you upgrade to the latest?07:53
pat|nGi installed it from software management07:54
pat|nGdefault is quarsil07:54
zubin71hello, im currently using kubuntu. i want to limit the windows i open in a particular workspace to appear in the toolbar of that particular workspace only. how do i do that? please help07:55
shadeslayerzubin71: right click the empty space in the taskbar and click taskbar settings07:55
shadeslayerpat|nG: ok did alt+F2 not open a bar thingy in the middle?07:55
zubin71shadeslayer : you mean panel options...07:56
shadeslayerzubin71: no the taskbar settings,it should be the topmost option07:56
zubin71shadeslayer : all i have are "task manager settings" and "panel options" :(07:57
shadeslayerzubin71: yeah task manager settings... didnt i say that07:58
shadeslayerzubin71: by taskbar i meant taskmanager settings :)07:58
shadeslayerpat|nG: ?07:58
zubin71shadeslayer : oh sorry, hadnt gotten that... :(07:59
zubin71shadeslayer : yup its done!07:59
zubin71shadeslayer : :)07:59
zubin71shadeslayer : thank you :)07:59
shadeslayerzubin71: you can also completely replace the task manager07:59
zubin71shadeslayer : replace?07:59
shadeslayerzubin71: with something like stasks or smooth tasks07:59
shadeslayerzubin71: its a plasmoid basically one sec08:00
zubin71shadeslayer i see08:00
zubin71shadeslayer , sure take ur time...08:00
shadeslayerzubin71: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=10158608:00
zubin71shadeslayer , gee, thnkx :)08:01
pat|nGi see this textbox08:01
pat|nGshadeslayer08:01
pat|nGi typed xchat but nothing happns08:01
zubin71shadeslayer and i am having a hard time configuring my shortcuts...08:01
shadeslayerpat|nG: ok now whatever app you want to launch type the name in it08:01
shadeslayerzubin71: K > Sysytem Settings > Input08:02
shadeslayerzubin71: make that Keyboard and Mouse08:02
zubin71shadeslayer rite now, switch workspaces as <ctrl><f1> etc... i configured to move with <ctrl><alt><1> etc... but its not working08:02
zubin71shadeslayer ok08:02
shadeslayerpat|nG: hmm.. ok type : Konsole08:02
shadeslayerpat|nG: and press enter,youll get a terminal up and running,type xchat in that terminal08:03
shadeslayerpat|nG: did it launch ?08:06
pat|nGyes08:07
pat|nGthanx shadeslayer08:07
pat|nG  but upon connecting i got error message :(08:07
pat|nGlike infected with a virus trojan08:08
pat|nGwat does it mean?08:08
shadeslayerpat|nG: um please close xchat and launch it from alt+F2 now.. it should work08:08
shadeslayerpat|nG: and linux has no viruses :)08:09
shadeslayer!virus > pat|nG08:09
ubottupat|nG, please see my private message08:09
pat|nGi get this virus thingy08:14
pat|nG:(08:14
shadeslayerpat|nG: virus thingy? can you do a imagebin?08:14
shadeslayer!imagebin | pat|nG08:14
ubottupat|nG: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.08:14
pat|nGhttp://imagebin.org/8139708:17
pat|nGshadeslayer08:17
shadeslayerpat|nG: hang on :)08:17
shadeslayerpat|nG: lemme try that with irssi08:18
pat|nGwhat will i do now?08:19
shadeslayerpat|nG: looks like a network problem not a xchat problem08:19
shadeslayeri cant even connect :P08:19
shadeslayerpat|nG: can you connect via quassel?08:20
shadeslayerpat|nG: and you seem to be glined on undernet... dont know why,but that may be preventing you from connecting08:21
pat|nGnope08:21
pat|nGon quassel it works fine08:21
pat|nGdon't know with this xchat08:22
shadeslayerpat|nG: hmm.. please contact the network ops on undernet then,its a network problem not a xchat problem08:22
macopat|nG: are you behind a proxy?08:23
shadeslayerpat|nG: xchat connects to freenode right?08:23
macopat|nG: maybe you dont have your proxy variables set for gnome or something?08:23
pat|nGi do used proxy08:23
pat|nGshould i remove?08:24
macoi dont know how to change the proxy settings, so sure, try without08:24
macoif you can08:25
pat|nGi removed it08:25
pat|nGbut same08:25
macohmm i dont know then08:25
pat|nGmaco: is it possible to have a 3D desktop on a built-in gfxcard?08:29
shadeslayerpat|nG: i dont see why not08:29
pat|nGhow?08:30
pat|nGi tried to check all box like 3D cube box08:31
pat|nGbut nothing happnd08:31
shadeslayerpat|nG: do you have the desktop effects enabled?08:34
shadeslayerpat|nG: things like transperency and other window effects08:35
macopat|nG: yeah works fine on intel graphics08:37
pat|nGreally?08:40
pat|nGhow?08:40
pat|nGi tried yesterday bro08:40
pat|nGseems can't find a way to activate it08:40
pat|nG maco?08:45
macowhats up?08:46
macooh08:46
macowhich intel?08:46
maco965 and 945 should work...08:46
pat|nGi got dell 154508:48
titan_arkDaugha|n: sup? long time no see =)09:04
titan_arkhey could anyone help me out with configuring Knetworkmanager.09:07
titan_arkits driving me crazy09:07
titan_arkanyone???09:10
titan_arkanyone around?09:22
Daugha|nNo, we're taking the night off. =)09:45
eeoshi! Is there an application to edit video subtitles in kubuntu? I want to add subtitles to a video shot by my wife10:10
LuciusMareohai10:20
titan_arkany help with alsa :(10:24
titan_arkcant get my sound10:24
pat|nGalt+f2 then type: alsamix10:27
pat|nGcheck all volumes10:27
HoellPhey...10:36
HoellPi desperately try to set "mic as output" and "line as output" to true, but kmix always resets the value after some time without sound10:37
HoellPis there any workaround i could try?10:37
HoellPi'm on rc2 since today btw10:39
noaXesshi all11:01
noaXesswas up today?11:01
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noaXesshow can i set write access to a ext4 usb harddisk? normally it will be mounted like this: /dev/sdc1 on /media/BIGFOOT type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)11:12
noaXessbut i can't write as normal user.. only as root/ with sudp11:13
noaXesssudo ^11:13
Neremorhello!11:25
Neremoris there any free software to remote-control a windows 7 pc via kubuntu?11:25
shadeslayerNeremor: i dont think so11:26
HoellPNeremor: vnc?11:26
HoellPshould work on any system11:26
Neremorok, that sounds good. could you please tell me what i need to install on the windows and the kubuntu mashine?11:27
HoellPon kubuntu you just need to run "krdc" in internet section of the menu11:28
HoellPand install some kind of vnc server on windows11:28
HoellPi think tightvnc is one, but i no very little about windows11:28
HoellPand nothing about 711:28
noaXessNeremor: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php11:32
noaXessNeremor: in krdc then just connect to vnc://ip-of-vnc-server:590011:33
noaXess5900 is the dfault vnc server port..11:33
pat|nGi can't play cd audio11:38
pat|nGanyone?11:38
noaXess!audio | pat|nG11:40
ubottupat|nG: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:40
Alarmhello, i am using the Ozone window decoration and also activated shadows in my desktop effects11:51
Alarmunfortunately i do not see any shadows behind windows no matter how i change my shadow settings  (kde4.2)11:51
tdgshello12:03
tdgsI just installed kde 4.4rc1 from the beta ppa12:03
tdgsand I am having some trouble12:04
tdgswith the kaddressbook application12:04
tdgsit does not have any menus12:04
tdgswhen I click the File menu for example12:04
tdgsI get an empty list12:04
tdgsthe same happens with all the other menus, except the settings menu12:05
tdgsany ideas? should I file a bug report?>12:05
tdgsno?12:07
pat|nG!audio12:18
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:18
pat|nG!MP312:18
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:18
Alarmhello, i am using the Ozone window decoration and also activated shadows in my desktop effects12:25
Alarmunfortunately i do not see any shadows behind windows no matter how i change my shadow settings  (kde4.2)12:25
tdgs!help12:30
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:30
tdgsanyone experiencing problems with kaddressbook in kde 4.4 (kubuntu 9.10)? Here, I can see no menu entries in File, View etc. Any ideas?12:31
shadeslayertdgs: btw ask in #kde if this channel goes to sleep :P12:32
tdgsthx12:33
BlessJahhi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file, could someone pastebin it?12:45
BlessJahfile can be named similar like kde4.ubuntu12:46
HoellPhmm12:51
HoellPpastebin.com messes up lots of the comments12:51
BlessJahHoellP: use anything u want, u can even query me12:51
BlessJahhi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from 9.04, could someone pastebin it?13:01
pat|nGi got an error stating cannot connect to a server using xchat coz it has virus? anyone? how come?13:10
trakinasHi all! does anyone here work with mysql? I was reading a query and there is something I could not understand13:18
DerHorsttrakinas: go further13:23
invaderzimQuestion/problem: In KDM, after choosing console login, I can't go back to kdm with exit/logout, unless I restart the KDM service. Is that normal?13:23
invaderzimrunning karmic13:23
trakinasDerHorst: there is this String Replace syntaxe, okay, no problem wth that. but at the end, after the difinition  of what will be replaced theres something that looks like an interval, which is what I did not understand.13:25
trakinasDerHorst: SUBSTRING(REPLACE(p.message, '<br>', '<br />'), 1, 65534)13:25
trakinasit will replace <br> with <br />, okay. fine. but what is the 1, 65534 bit? I tried to find something on MySQL manual, but there's nothing like that on the String operations part.13:26
DerHorst1 = start, 65534 = length13:27
DerHorstCould that be?13:27
trakinasDerHorst: maybe. but lengh of the string?13:28
smellynoserHi - khubd is hogging like a bishop and causing my load to go up to 600. How do I stop it from hogging or restart it?13:28
DerHorsttrakinas: I gues substring returns the first Part of p.message13:30
DerHorstand the end of the first part is at sign 6553413:30
DerHorstSo everything which would stand behind 65534 would be not part of the returnstring13:30
trakinasDerHorst: I think I got it now. Thanks.13:31
DerHorst=)13:32
invaderzimno one/13:37
invaderzim?13:37
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trakinasinvaderzim: never tried that. I dont know how this loggin mode works, so I can't help.13:39
invaderzimthanks13:39
Biosftwhey i cant access a certain file because of some invalid char inside its name13:51
Biosftwthe file is coming from an old windows system (98 or something)13:51
invaderzimBios you want to rename it?14:00
invaderzimBiosftw: you want to rename it or wanna read it in its current chars?14:00
Biosftwrename14:00
invaderzimBiosftw: use mc to rename14:00
Biosftwmc is what?14:00
invaderzimBiosftw: i always use it with this problems14:01
invaderzimBiosftw: apt-get install mc14:01
invaderzimBiosftw: midnight commander, a "console file manager"14:01
Biosftwok i will give it a try14:01
Biosftwthx invaderzim14:06
Biosftw: D14:06
invaderzimno prob =)14:06
aftertafconcerning the topic : isnt there an RC2 now? i just had 150+ updates :)14:10
aftertafkde 4.414:11
aftertaf4.3.95 RC2 in About KDE :) w00t14:11
Tm_Tnope, RC2 is not released yet (:14:13
BlessJahhi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from kubuntu/ubuntu with installed kde (has to be 9.04), could someone pastebin it?14:16
aftertafTm_T: not sure bout that, as I'm using it now ....14:18
aftertafjust checked14:18
Tm_Taftertaf: sure, it's there but it's not released yet, so might still be missing something14:18
aftertafwell, nothing smells of fire as of yet ;)14:19
Tm_Turrrgh, still old Qt there14:20
aftertafold? as in 4.5 ?14:21
aftertafno, 4.4... ;)14:22
Tm_Taftertaf: no, Qt is 4.6.0 in beta ppa14:23
aftertafk14:23
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LinusTHi. We've just migrated to Karmic, and some of our users are getting a Akonadi Self-Test failures window when they log in. The failures don't seem to affect functionality. How can I make the warning go away permanently?15:12
Screamo_Smurfi need help with my panel!!15:44
Screamo_Smurfnevermind i fixed it myself :)15:50
shadeslayerunofficial announcement... KDE 4.3.95 packages have arrived in the repos.. again this is UNOFFICIAL16:11
QuintasanHey guys, anyone using Semantik can tell me what should the Preview window do?16:15
shadeslayerQuintasan: preview the item?16:19
shadeslayerQuintasan: oh i thought you meant semantic.. :P16:19
Malin_Does anyone know why I can't get the facebook plasma widget to work?16:25
Malin_I just get a widget with text16:25
Malin_saying16:25
shadeslayerMalin_: did you install plasma-scriptengines16:26
Malin_yeah....16:26
shadeslayerMalin_: ok... what does it say?16:27
Malin_it says16:27
Malin_script initialization failed16:27
Malin_but before I tried to reinstall the package16:27
Malin_it said sometihing else16:27
Malin_but I have to look for the message16:27
shadeslayerMalin_: ah,remove the widget, run : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : and then add the plasmoid again16:28
pat|nGanyone?16:28
shadeslayerpat|nG: whats the problem?16:28
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pat|nGis it possible to run compiz in kde?16:28
Malin_the later one said: could not open the facebook package required for the facebook widget16:28
shadeslayerpat|nG: yep16:28
pat|nGany docs support?16:28
pat|nGthanx shadeslayer16:29
pat|nGu're the best bro16:29
pat|nGhehe16:29
shadeslayerMalin_: well did you install the facebook plasmoid?16:29
shadeslayerpat|nG: no problem16:29
Malin_shadeslayer: re add as reinstall, or just readd the widget?16:29
Malin_shadeslayer: yeah.. i did so16:29
shadeslayerMalin_: reinstall16:29
Malin_oki16:29
shadeslayerpat|nG: lemme check with ubottu16:29
mofuxhi16:30
mofuxi want to buy a pci-express graphics adapter that works flawlessy and with compositing under ubuntu / kubuntu?16:30
mofuxis there one you guys can recommend?16:30
Malin_still same error......16:30
mofuxalso it would be nice if it is passively cooled16:30
Malin_the one with scriptengine...16:30
shadeslayerpat|nG: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=7883116:31
shadeslayerpat|nG: its a bit old ( 4.3.1 )16:31
shadeslayermofux: i have a nvidia 8600 M GT,works fine16:31
shadeslayer!hardware | mofux : also see this16:31
ubottumofux : also see this: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection16:31
shadeslayermofux: nvidia is a preferred choice amongst users as they have better support16:32
Malin_shadeslayer: should kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental be run as root?16:32
shadeslayerMalin_: nope16:33
Malin_oki :)16:33
mofuxshadeslayer: thank you, any prefered model among the nvidia cards?16:33
shadeslayerMalin_: it just refreshes system cache16:33
Malin_Think I forgot to uninstall the widget first.. trying again16:33
maurimy vlc is taking a lot of memory.... but i dont understand why, pleqase may you help me16:33
shadeslayermofux: i heard the 8600 and 8800 had some issues,but the newer revisions sorted them out,but id still be wary of those 2 cards,rest all are fine i think16:34
shadeslayermauri: happens with some of the apps here too,like nepomuk and konversation,itll die down eventually,it could also be vlc's cache16:34
Malin_I did: purge the widget, then I did run kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental and then I reinstalled the facebook widget. It complains about the scritpengine who failed....16:34
shadeslayerMalin_: can you paste a imagebin?16:35
shadeslayers/imagebin/image16:35
Malin_how do I do that?16:35
Malin_is it an url?16:36
maurishadeslayer: i've killed more than one time it16:36
lorentshi16:36
shadeslayer!imagebin | Malin_16:36
ubottuMalin_: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.16:36
maurishadeslayer: it start with 15B and grow....now it is 240MB16:36
shadeslayermauri: it might be vlc's cache then16:37
Malin_ubottu: okey, thanx16:37
shadeslayermauri: is it a beta version or something?16:37
maurishadeslayer: the one on the repository16:37
maurishadeslayer: karmic16:37
shadeslayermauri: hmm... well the memory seems to be growing here too... probably just cache16:39
Malin_her the picture is: http://imagebin.org/8144416:40
shadeslayerMalin_: one sec16:41
Malin_okey :)16:41
Malin_hm.. I should have written: Her is the picture.. Think I have to start writing more English.....16:41
tsimpsonMalin_: "here" not "her" ;)16:42
Malin_doh16:42
Malin_tsimpson: thanx16:42
shadeslayerMalin_: apparently i have the same problem :P16:42
shadeslayerMalin_: hold on16:43
lorentsdo you guys know why my root pasword in a grapical session works and in a terminal doesn't work?16:43
Malin_shadeslayer: what a coincidence hehe16:43
tsimpsonlorents: did you set a root password?16:43
lorentsi had this with solaris and  bsd, that's why i changed to kubuntu...16:43
tsimpsonthere is none by default16:43
lorentsyeah16:43
lorentsjust standard called "root"16:44
tsimpsonhow/where are you trying to enter the password?16:44
lorentswell i wanted to install vlc true a terminal session16:44
lorentsand when it asked for priveledges it said there was no root accout16:44
tsimpsonwhen what asked?16:45
lorentsafter i typed apt-get install vlc16:45
tsimpsonas root, as your user, or with sudo?16:45
shadeslayertsimpson: maybe if he types : passwd in a konsole?16:45
lorentswith sudo16:46
shadeslayerlorents: without16:46
tsimpsonsudo expects your password, not roots16:46
lorentsahh ok16:46
tsimpsonthat's kind of the whole point of sudo :)16:46
lorentsand where do i give my own acc preveledges to do something like an install?16:47
tsimpsonif you prefix a command with "sudo", it'll run as root16:47
shadeslayerMalin_: sorry cant get it to work16:47
tsimpsonor "kdesudo" for GUIs16:47
macolorents: first user account has that16:47
Malin_shadeslayer: ah..okey, maybe it is a bug?16:48
macolorents: but /etc/sudoers is where thatd be configured16:48
lorentsah k thx maco16:48
Malin_shadeslayer: It works from a live-cd in a virtualbox, but maybe it has to do with kde4.2 vs 4.3?16:48
shadeslayerMalin_: maybe,but try : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook?content=106752 and http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook+Fixed?content=11561216:48
tsimpsonsudo is not the easiest thing in the word to configure16:48
macotsimpson: there are examples in the file....16:48
Malin_shadeslayer: thanx. I will take a look16:48
pat|nGshadeslayer: just read the post.......but got a question does it works fine with my laptop with a built-in gfxcard?16:48
tsimpsonmaco: even so16:49
shadeslayerpat|nG: yeah i dont see why not16:49
macotsimpson: well, and "always use visudo"16:49
Malin_shadeslayer: I tried that one in the first link, but can't it to work16:49
pat|nGi see16:49
tsimpsonlorents: if you do edit /etc/sudoers, use the command "sudo visudo"16:49
pat|nGthanx bro16:49
pat|nGu're the best16:49
shadeslayerMalin_: ah,try the 2nd16:49
pat|nGhope u'll be online all the time here16:49
shadeslayerpat|nG: no problem16:49
pat|nGahehehe16:49
Malin_shadeslayer: I will16:49
shadeslayerpat|nG: well i want to but cant :P16:49
lorentsk thx tsimpson16:49
trinityi am not sure how to install nvidia driver. i mean after i type in 'sudo aptitute install nvidia...' and then tab - there are so many options popping out and i dont know what to choose exactly.16:50
pat|nGi got lots of thingy to be fixed and i'm still learnin kubuntu distro...first time in linux tho...but it's worth tryin.....16:51
tsimpsontrinity: use the hardware drivers manager16:52
tsimpsonin the application menu under "System"16:52
trinitywill try now16:53
Malin_shadeslayer: http://pastebin.org/8104916:53
Malin_shadeslayer: same error as with the first link16:54
Malin_shadeslayer: I tried to manually install both, but It dosen't shows up in the add widget wizard16:54
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shadeslayerMalin_: remove the 'plasmoid' filter16:56
Malin_ah16:56
Malin_where do I remove the filter?16:56
maurishadeslayer: how can i empthy the cache16:56
shadeslayerMalin_: in the filter field... when you select : install plasmoid from file16:56
francesco_what is this?16:56
Malin_I feel poor for shadeslayer who has to answer so many questions...16:56
Malin_oki16:57
shadeslayermauri: you cant16:57
shadeslayerMalin_: nah ive grown used to it,i used to ask so many questions thats how i learnt,ask all you want16:57
Malin_shadeslayer: I see.. hm.. can't figure out about the filter....16:58
shadeslayerMalin_: kde 4.3?16:58
Malin_hm.. or maybe I did16:58
shadeslayerhehe :D16:58
Malin_yeah it is kde.4.316:58
Malin_shadeslayer: the filter when I try to install from file, and get the filebrowser-open dialog thing? :)16:58
shadeslayerwhen you have to find the plasmoid,just below filename theres a filter fieled,delete the filter word : plasmoid16:58
shadeslayeryeah16:59
shadeslayer*fiedl16:59
shadeslayermeh.. field16:59
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Malin_shadeslayer: Its like it not installs....17:03
trinitythe hardware manager says that my nvidia driver is enabled but is not in use, because it's proprietary and kubuntu cant fix it:< any other ways to install it?;/17:04
Malin_trinity: download the NVIDIA........run package for your card17:05
trinitycant:< silly chrome doesnt want to download it from nvidia.17:05
Malin_you can hit: shift + alt + f2 to get to a shell17:05
Malin_then do17:05
trinityi did that17:05
Malin_sudo service kdm stop17:05
trinityif you mean sudo command17:06
trinitywhat will that do?17:06
Malin_sudo chmod +x NVIDIApakcage.run17:06
Malin_sudo sh NVIDIApackage.run17:06
Malin_go through the setup17:06
Malin_then17:06
Malin_reboot or maybe just17:06
Malin_sudo service kdm start17:06
Malin_the sudo installs as root, you have to be root to install it17:07
Malin_trinity: Can't you download it from another browser? or just rightclck and save as17:07
shadeslayertrinity: do you want binary packages or the source?17:07
Malin_Don't think you will get a source of the NVIDIA pacagke, as it's not open source17:07
shadeslayer(hint : binaries are better since you can auto upgrade them)17:08
trinitysorry, what is the difference between them? im new to linux17:08
trinityaah;)17:08
Malin_awh....17:08
Malin_yeah. It's maybe better to install nvidia through the repo17:08
shadeslayertrinity: ok well then binary it is,easier to maintain for you till you get accquainted with stuff17:08
Malin_but if it's somehow not works....17:08
shadeslayertrinity: ok now,do you want bleeding edge or the stable ones?17:08
shadeslayerMalin_: i can make it work :P17:09
Malin_me too17:09
shadeslayerMalin_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new17:09
Malin_but It's not the latest drivers...17:09
trinity:) if you too make it work i ll hug you;)17:09
trinitytwo*17:09
shadeslayertrinity: well which driver do you want? bleeding edge or the stable ones?17:09
trinityi need smth at least... my screen is blurry with horrible resolution17:09
shadeslayertrinity: well choose one then :P17:10
markus_hy everybody17:10
shadeslayermarkus_: hi17:10
trinitydifference?:>17:10
shadeslayertrinity: bleeding edge drivers are better but not stable17:10
markus_my sound is only working sometimes and sometimes I get only knack sounds. could it be that pulse and alsa kill eachother?17:10
trinityi do need smth stable untill i become more or less cleverer;)17:10
shadeslayercan crash and other stuff,stable ones have lesser features but dont crash17:10
Malin_maybe trinity could tell wich card?17:11
Malin_and so one.. but hm...17:11
trinitysure, one sec17:11
markus_is it possible to remove pulseaudio completely?17:11
Malin_think so17:11
trinityNVIDIA, GeForce G102M17:11
shadeslayertrinity: ok press alt+F2 and type jockey-kde17:11
Malin_hm.. maybe give up that facebook-widget :(17:11
shadeslayerMalin_: yeah probably,i prefer kopete chat17:11
shadeslayerMalin_: oh i have a idea17:11
Malin_trinity: I hava G105M almost same card then ;)17:12
trinity;)17:12
shadeslayerMalin_: install the web slice widget or similar web browser widget and point it to facebook17:12
Malin_shadeslayer: I do use pidgin, because the facebook-chat-plugin for kopete dosen't work for me17:12
shadeslayerMalin_: ah if you compile from sources it works :P17:12
Malin_shadeslayer: that's a workaround who can work :)17:12
trinitydone that, hardware manager says that my driver is activated, but not in use ;/17:12
Malin_shadeslayer: really? how? :) I think I could give it a try17:12
shadeslayertrinity: did you reboot after it installed?17:13
shadeslayerMalin_: for kopete?17:13
Malin_for kopete yeah17:13
trinityerr... i dont remember;/ was yesterday at 2am.. lemme do it now;)17:13
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shadeslayerMalin_: ok do you want the constant flux git download or the point release?17:14
shadeslayerMalin_: point release is better if you cant update git regularly17:15
BluesKajhowdy folks17:16
SamWeasleyHello! Anyone here tried remaster Kubuntu with Remastersys? I need some tips17:16
trinitywheee! thank you thank you thank you!;) now it works... just needed to restart;) and my wobbly windows work again!17:16
shadeslayertrinity: wobbly windows are fun :P17:16
shadeslayerBluesKaj: oh hey17:17
SamWeasleyAnd also I need some helps with KDE Effects and a Intel video board17:17
trinityoh no>< i removed tasks or smth from the task menu;/ how do i get it back?:/17:17
trinityand yes they are indeed;)17:17
shadeslayertrinity: add the taskbar widget to the taskbar17:17
shadeslayerMalin_: whatcha thinkin?17:18
Malin_shadeslayer: Don't know if I understod what exactely you mean17:19
Malin_maybe a point relase then? :)17:19
shadeslayerMalin_: well do you know what git is?17:19
Malin_yeah17:19
shadeslayerMalin_: ok here : http://github.com/dmacvicar/kopete-facebook/downloads17:19
Malin_it's something like wget or something I guess17:19
trinityok added, but they are kind of switched places with System Tray;/17:19
shadeslayerMalin_: yeah kinda.. its a revision control system17:20
Malin_hm.. maybe it's not, but hm.. I have know the name17:20
Malin_oki17:20
shadeslayertrinity: click on the cashew in the bar and then drag the task manager17:20
trinity0_o17:20
shadeslayertrinity: theres a cashew on the extreme right of the taskbar17:21
shadeslayerMalin_: after you download it, untar it somewhere and then make a folder called build,cd to that folder using a terminal and then ill give you further instructions17:21
Malin_okey17:22
shadeslayerMalin_: build folder is in the folder you untarred17:22
Malin_I'll make that folder inside the untared folder?17:22
shadeslayerMalin_: yes,something like : kopete-facebook/build/17:22
Malin_awh. yeah17:22
Malin_you just said so17:22
Malin_mhm17:22
shadeslayerMalin_: done?17:23
Malin_jupp done17:23
shadeslayerMalin_: ok now : sudo apt-get install build-essential17:23
Malin_it's the newest version ;)17:24
Malin_so well.. done somehow17:24
Malin_do I have to run make?17:25
Malin_or cmake?17:25
shadeslayerMalin_: oh wait add  libkopete-dev and libqjson-dev to that17:25
Malin_okey thanx17:25
shadeslayerMalin_: done installing those two?17:25
Malin_not yet17:25
Malin_it installes17:25
Malin_or installs or however it is spelled... hm17:26
Malin_done17:26
trinityoh i ve just deleted the taskbar at all, barely found how to return it back... thankfully it's easier than on windows17:26
shadeslayerMalin_: ok now run these one by one : http://pastebin.com/f34a349017:26
Malin_trinity:  I know how to fix it in gnome, but maybe it's something like that in kde too?17:26
shadeslayertrinity: yeah its a bit confusing for new comers.. understanding the concept of widgets in the taskbar17:26
Malin_Somoen who knows?17:26
Malin_hm.. is the ; something you added for some reason?17:27
shadeslayerMalin_: thats my personal buildscript i use that i just posted :P17:27
Malin_a :)17:27
shadeslayerMalin_: its called buildthis.sh and i just cd to the build folder and run buildhis.sh :P17:28
Malin_hm.. a lot easier :p17:28
shadeslayerMalin_: yeah :)17:28
Malin_hehe17:28
Malin_bash-script17:28
shadeslayerMalin_: yep :)17:29
Malin_:D17:29
trinityyay!17:29
Malin_so the ; is for doing thing in " a chain" somehow? :)17:29
shadeslayerMalin_: quickly now i have to get to work on some kde webby stuff :P17:29
Malin_like? :)17:29
shadeslayerMalin_: yeah you can run the commands one by one like : sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:29
shadeslayerMalin_: wanna help?17:30
Malin_almost finished17:30
trinityand the last question: do you know how to 'shrink' the task manager window icons, so that they were squares instead of rectangles. ive seen it on someone's computer, but i dont know the name of that app17:30
Malin_the same as writing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?17:30
shadeslayertrinity: ah smooth tasks17:30
Malin_shadeslayer: I would like to help, but what should I do? :)17:30
shadeslayerMalin_: one and the same17:30
shadeslayerMalin_: its *very* simple17:31
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shadeslayerMalin_: http://community.kde.org/Scratchpad/www-rework17:31
trinity:O plasma workspace crashed when i dragged smooth tasks;/17:31
Malin_shadeslayer: I will take a look :)17:31
shadeslayertrinity: 4.3 ?17:31
trinity4.3 what?:>17:32
shadeslayertrinity: kde 4.3?17:32
shadeslayerMalin_: did it compile?17:32
Malin_shadeslayer: yeah17:32
shadeslayerMalin_: installed?17:32
trinity;/ how do i check it? *blush*17:32
Malin_shadeslayer: yeah, its istalled17:32
Malin_installed17:32
shadeslayertrinity: oh open any app and check the help > About KDE17:33
trinityKDE - Be Free!17:33
trinityPlatform Version 4.3.90 (KDE 4.3.90 (KDE 4.4 RC1))17:33
Malin_is it common to get errors when running: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental ?17:33
shadeslayerMalin_: cool,it disconnects now and then here... maybe because i have the git version17:33
shadeslayerMalin_: yeah17:33
Malin_trinity: kde4.4 is not finished, and could then be very buggy17:33
Malin_shadeslayer:  should I just run kopete to check?17:34
shadeslayerMalin_: that step is not required.... i just added it since some apps needed it17:34
shadeslayerMalin_: sure go ahead17:34
trinityoki. that means i ll jst have to bare the rectangular task manager windows?17:34
trinityuntill a better version17:34
shadeslayertrinity: hmm thats a known problem,i had to compile smooth-tasks to solve that17:35
trinityhow?17:35
shadeslayertrinity: theres a PPA with the latest packages... dont need to compile17:35
Malin_something I miss with kopete and pidgin is webcam support for wlm-sessions17:36
markus_For sound the backend xine is selected in kubuntu. what other options exist?17:36
shadeslayertrinity: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586 << read carefully17:36
shadeslayerMalin_: phonon-gstreamer17:36
Malin_oh.. I got an inncomming messege in kopete from facebookchatt omg... :D17:36
shadeslayerMalin_: :D17:36
trinityanother facebook-dependant;)17:36
Malin_shadeslayer: Works like a sharm... sadly those new versions is not in the repos yet :(17:39
Malin_is there a irc-plugin as well? and how good is it?17:39
Malin_anyway17:39
Malin_I will take a closer look at the site you linked to17:40
markus_Now I installed phonon-gstreamer. But I do not get any sound with it. Damn.. Sound is really badly implemented in kubuntu :-(17:41
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trinitywhat does 'yum' do?17:42
markus_Systemsettings say I have: HDE Intel (CONEXANT Analog) is that the problem? What does it mean?17:43
trinity117:49
Brhad56217:49
kamolahttp://imagebin.org/8145917:50
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xorredI have / on disk1 and /home on disk2, how do I move / on disk 2 too?17:58
xorredI guess a new folder - home - must be created there and /home/content must be moved to /home/, then copy all  from / to disk2 and then run grub?17:59
xorreddoes kubuntu i386 support 4+ GB of ram?18:07
xorredpreviously I had to download the x64 bit version18:07
Malin_looks like kwin use some cpu18:08
Malin_always over 20%18:09
Tm_TMalin_: you use some effects?18:09
xorredcan I use 6GB of ram with the default i386 release of 9.10?18:09
Malin_it might be the reason... so I should try to disable some18:09
xorred9.04 only saw 418:09
Malin_xorred: not without building the kernel for support higher than 4GB18:10
Malin_it's possible to do so18:10
Tm_Tno need to build, just to install18:10
xorredso I need to download the x64 bit iso18:10
xorredinstall?18:10
xorredwhat should I apt-get18:10
Malin_Tm_T: I spoke to xorred18:10
ikoniabes option to do it18:10
Malin_or spoked18:10
Tm_TMalin_: me too (:18:11
xorredI used to install the server kernel with all problems after that18:11
xorredso .. pae kernel18:11
Malin_if you have a 64-bit cpu it's better to install the 64-bit version of the os18:11
Malin_Tm_T: ah.. my bad... sorry18:11
xorredcore 2 duo18:11
xorred apt-cache search pae18:12
xorredxen-hypervisor-3.3 - The Xen Hypervisor for i386 and amd64.18:12
Malin_yeah, then you better go for 64-bit os ;)18:12
xorredonly package it finds18:12
xorredkk18:12
xorredwell.... I upgraded several times, and the system is ...18:13
xorredI'd like to just reinstall18:13
xorredalsa broke on every upgrade18:13
xorredand now only pulse is available18:13
xorredis pulse the default in new releases?18:13
xorredpulseaudio18:13
PorbsKHello I need some help bout configuring PPP broaband. So is Ubuntu setup and Kubuntu setup same ?18:14
xorredsimilar18:14
PorbsKsudo apt-get install pppoeconf ?18:14
xorredgosh... the kubuntu  4.4.3 beta is... not stable :)18:18
xorrederr, 4.4.rc118:18
Malin_brb18:19
trinityit's not, no:<18:24
pulaskiHi, can anyone suggest a channel where I can ask questions about the openoffice writer application in kubuntu 9.10?18:26
Bizzehhi, does kubuntu recognise windows7 when you attempt to dual boot and set it up to be a bootable OS in grub?18:30
PorbsKcan anyone show the icon that confirmes  "network connected" bcoz everytime I start Kubuntu 9.10 i see only network card icon with cable pulled out18:30
PorbsKhow does the LAN connected icon looks like18:31
aqaqhello how do u defrag ubuntu18:33
trinityBizzeh: ive got both of them installed and it's fine working18:34
ikoniaaqaq: you don't need to18:36
aqaqok thank you18:36
Malin_where to configure a widget? the configfiles...18:38
FloodBotK1NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.18:42
Malin_I'm trying again18:43
Malin_Is there anybody in here?18:43
Tm_TMalin_: sure is, just be patient (:18:43
trinityi am here! i am alive!18:43
Malin_tryed just because of FloodBotK1's message....18:44
Malin_tried18:44
trinitystasks dont want to work still:< hmm18:44
trinityis it just me, or whenever i open okular file it doubles the windows, so that i get file<1> and file<2> opened at a time18:46
Tm_Ttrinity: never happened for me18:46
trinityhmm..just opened one of my lectures again... and i get "Lecture1.pdf - Okular" and "same - Okular<2>" at the same time18:47
trinityoh great, my laptop cam is inverted in skype and i can't change it. any ideas guys?19:00
Duskaois there anyone here that can tell me how to change my start up programs? or how to access the start up script?19:02
Malin_noone knows how to configure a widget-code?19:07
Malin_Think I found what I was looking for19:14
Malin_maybe not all......19:19
PeterFAI've got considerable reason to believe that the KDE composite layer is pretty buggy. It often captures the mouse in some mysterious way that makes it impossible to click on most things but allows you to click on certain things on the taskbar, but also the KDE menu cannot be click on.19:45
PeterFAPlus I have random freezes.19:46
PeterFAI disable the composites and suddenly everything is working without a problem.19:46
PeterFAIt's back to that usual Linux solidness of which I've grown so fond.19:46
PeterFAIs there a workaround to get the composites without the bugs?19:46
PeterFAWhat is -r?19:47
mplabsHello !19:47
mplabsI want to create again the list of available sessions, can I do that ?19:48
mplabsright now I have "default", "xfce" and "failsafe", where is KDE ? :S19:48
tsimpsonPeterFA: see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml19:48
PeterFAtsimpson, thanks.19:49
PeterFAGuys, if you want a thrill, take anti-candida and drink a lot of coffee.19:49
PeterFAThe anti-candida makes you very sensitive to coffee.19:49
PeterFAThe thing is you feel happy and crap for no reason without feeling bad in any way.19:51
PeterFAWhen I first took this anti-candida, my mouth started to go numb. :p19:51
pat|nGgot to go guys19:53
Tm_T!ot | PeterFA19:53
ubottuPeterFA: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:53
pat|nGthanx for the help19:53
pat|nGbye19:53
mplabswell, I can't enter to my KDE session19:53
mplabsbecause it's not in my available list19:53
mplabswhat can I do ?19:53
Tm_Tmplabs: reinstall kdebase-workspace-data19:56
mplabsreinstalling19:56
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Guest66405doesn't work20:01
Guest66405:|20:01
Guest66405I'm still in xfce20:01
Tm_Thmm, interesting20:02
Guest66405can I force KDE by startx or similar in the command line ?20:02
Tm_Tstartkde20:02
Guest66405I mean.. like startxfce420:02
Guest66405ok20:03
Tm_TGuest66405: but, you still don't have /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop ?20:03
Guest66405yep, I have20:04
Tm_Tthen it should be there, try reboot just for giggles20:04
Guest66405haha, it will be my 30+ reboot today20:04
Guest66405:P20:05
Tm_Tif you have that file, it should appear into session menu20:05
Guest66405rebooting...20:05
joh6nn1i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty20:11
joh6nn1i've tried disabling ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference20:11
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mplabsThank you !20:15
mplabsIt works now :)20:15
Tm_Tmplabs: brilliant (:20:15
mplabsby the way.. it was because of kdebase-workspace-bin20:15
Tm_Tah20:15
mplabsI just reinstalled it20:16
mplabsThat's all. thank you again20:17
titan_arkcould anyone suggest a voice recording tool20:17
titan_arki need a basic one20:17
titan_arktrying to configure my microphone20:17
titan_ark:(20:17
joh6nntitan_ark: i'm fond of audacity20:19
joh6nnit goes beyond basic, but it's fairly straightforward20:19
titan_arkjoh6nn: okay :) have used it before.20:20
titan_arkshall try it20:20
titan_arki just cant get to get my mic to work20:20
titan_arkno matter what i try with alsa20:20
joh6nnsure it's not something with the mic?20:20
titan_arkor prolly i am not doing it right20:20
titan_arknah the mic works20:20
joh6nnworks on another box, etc?20:20
titan_arksame box on windows boot20:21
titan_arkworks perfectly20:21
joh6nnok20:21
joh6nnhave you checked to make sure the mic's not muted in the alsa-mixer?20:21
titan_arki had set it right once before with a wubi install, cant seem to remember how i did it then20:21
titan_arkthe alsa mixer i installed seems very basic20:21
titan_arkno options at all20:21
titan_arkunless i try it in command20:22
raindogHas windows grouping been removed from the latest kde 4.4 release?20:22
joh6nni'm familiar with it almost exclusively as a command line tool; didn't even realize it came with a gui20:22
Tm_Traindog: no20:22
raindogTm_T: Hmm, can't find it.20:23
titan_arkjoh6nn: ah20:23
titan_arkcould i post a screenshot and if you could tell me if its configured right?20:23
Tm_Traindog: which windeco? it's not supported in all of them20:24
joh6nnsure.20:24
joh6nndon't confuse that for me knowing what i'm talking about, though :)20:24
raindogTm_T: Ah, using bespin.  I'll switch and check it out.  Thanks for the info.20:24
Tm_Traindog: it doesn't support it, I'm 99 % sure (:20:24
raindogTm_T: That was it.  Thank you.20:25
Tm_Tnp20:25
raindog4.4rc2 seems rather snappy to me.  Excellent work.20:25
titan_arkjoh6nn: :) http://imagebin.ca/view/0r3Yzkfc.html20:26
titan_arkand this too http://imagebin.ca/view/E8KqCA0.html20:26
chimp-champIn Kubuntu 9.10 I don't have a system tray for updates any longer - is that a bug?20:27
Tm_Tchimp-champ: it shows only when there's updates, do you mean it doesn't show up even when there is?20:27
soeeanyone who is using panel at the top of the screen?20:28
Tm_Tyes?20:28
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soeeTm_T: u do?20:29
titan_arkjoh6nn: you still with me?20:29
Tm_T!anyone | soee (:)20:29
ubottusoee (:): A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?20:29
joh6nntitan_ark: yeah, thinking20:29
titan_arkjoh6nn: okay thx :)20:30
joh6nnit's not immediately obvious to me whether those are muted or not; i only ever mess with alsa-mixer when my sound isn't working20:30
joh6nnthen i forget about it and put it back on the shelf20:30
titan_ark:D same here20:30
titan_arki had set the damnt hing a few weeks back20:30
titan_arkin wubi20:30
titan_arknow did a dual boot and :P20:30
ideasiIs this the right place to ask tech questions?  I'm pretty new to this whole linux thing and I'm a bit lost trying to make something work.20:31
Tm_Tideasi: yes (:20:32
chimp-champTm_T: I mean it in this way: Yesterday I looked in the systemsettings at "install and remove software" and found some corrections of bugs, they are called Updates :P . But in the system bar in my control panel there was no gear with the green arrow (like in 9.04) which showed updates.20:33
ideasiOkay, neat.  Well, I'm trying to get ninjavideo.com to work. .It's a divx video website.  I've tried installing mplayer, vlc, and totem (all with mozilla plugins of course,) but for some reason none of them seem to work.  I've spent the past 3 hours on google, trying out all the solutions there after searching for simply "ninjavideo kubuntu," but I'm sitll not having any luck.20:33
titan_arkjoh6nn: i vaguely remember i needed to do something with the sound card INTEL hda ... and check for the port20:34
titan_arknothing beyond that20:34
Tm_Tchimp-champ: hmm, perhaps you don't have it installed, sorry don't know much of it as I remove those things when I see 'em20:36
chimp-champTm_T: It was standard in 9.04.20:37
chimp-champAnd a have ticked all options which are about displaying notifications.20:38
chimp-champIts a general problem for me since upgrading to 9.10.20:38
Tm_Tchimp-champ: see if you have update-notifier-kde installed20:39
chimp-champYes, it is.20:40
joh6nntitan_ark: yeah, i'm stumped, other than to check and make sure the mic's not muted20:40
titan_arkjoh6nn: okay. how do i check that?20:40
joh6nnif you tab over to the mic controls in alsa mixer, i think you can toggle mute with 'M'20:41
titan_arkdoes it indicate anywhere if it is muted?20:42
titan_arkcos when i press M nothing changes20:42
TheGentlemanhello. I have already installed Kubuntu Karmic on 2 PC without problems. Now I have huge problems with a third one (follows)20:45
joh6nntitan_ark: yeah, it should say MM in the volume thing if it's muted.  but i'm not sure what to make of the lack of a volume indicator for the mic settings20:46
titan_arkjoh6nn: ah yes, i see that option is only for the speaker output20:46
titan_arkits not there for the mic :P20:46
TheGentlemaninstallation went smoothly and everything seemed to work fine. then I added the nvidia drivers from the Hardware Drivers menu and rebooted after completion (follows)20:47
shadowhywindhay all I'm trying to set up a openswan vpn (l2tp/ipsec) and I keep getting a but no connection has been authorized with policy=PSK error anyone have any ideas?20:48
TheGentlemanat reboot the system can't start X !20:48
TheGentlemanlogged in from command line and tried startx gives a huge list of error messages20:49
ripcordtitan_ark: hit your TAB key20:49
titan_arkripcord: to get to capture?20:49
ripcordsorry, tab in alsamixer shows additional meters if they are available20:50
TheGentlemancould i remove anythingt to have it again without nvidia drivers ?20:50
titan_arkripcord: it just changes to capture or playback options on pressing tab20:51
titan_arkhttp://imagebin.ca/view/0r3Yzkfc.html20:51
titan_arkis my capture settings20:51
ripcordtitan_ark: ah, ok20:51
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help20:51
ripcordtitan_ark: I had major problems with alsa and my HDA Intel soundcard. Never could find a solution.20:52
titan_arkripcord: hmm. i was able to configure it when i did a wubi install, cant seem to remember how i did it then20:53
TheGentlemanHow can i remove or disable nvidia drivers (installed from Hardware Drivers menu)? Something went wrong and K Karmic can't start X now!20:53
titan_arki had to check for some port of the card and also the alsa GUI was more elaborate than the one i have installed now.20:53
titan_arkripcord: cant figure it out20:53
robin0800titan_ark: if your feeling brave you could always try pulse audio20:54
titan_arkrobin0800: :D20:54
titan_arki am hoping i could set it right easily like the previous tim20:54
ripcordTheGentleman: the NVidia drivers should show up in synaptic if you search for them. Then you can uninstall them20:55
titan_arkwhen i tried gnome - Ubuntu the setup was so darn simple!20:55
ripcordor even in KPackageKit20:55
TheGentlemanripcor, I said that X doesn't start!!!  how can I run synaptic then?20:55
ripcordah, if you remeber the driver name you can uninstall it with apt-get20:56
robin0800titan_ark: kde dosen't install pulse audio server by default gnome does20:56
titan_arkrobin0800: hmm, so how do i go about doing it? am quite a noob20:56
titan_arkwould appreciate it if you could help20:57
TheGentlemanripcord: yes, i know i can use apt-get, what i need to know is the driver name!20:57
joh6nnTheGentleman: try dpkg --get-selections *nvidia*20:57
joh6nnthat should give you a list of everything installed with nvidia in the name20:57
robin0800titan_ark: sudo aptitude install pulseaudio20:57
TheGentlemanthanks joh6nn20:58
joh6nn:)20:58
titan_arkrobin0800: i guess i alreaady did that last night.20:58
titan_arkrobin0800: says its installed to latest version20:58
titan_arkbut i cant find the application when i search for it20:59
robin0800titan_ark: now install the pulse audio volme control20:59
titan_arkwhat is the packagename exactly?21:00
TheGentlemanjoh6nn, you suggest to remove or purge nvidia drivers ( i really dunno) ?21:02
joh6nnTheGentleman: remove will leave all their configuration information behind.  purge gets rid of everything21:02
joh6nnseeing as how the configuration they've got is obviously not working, i think purge might be best here21:03
robin0800titan_ark:  pavucontrol think21:03
TheGentlemanthat's what i thought too joh6nn, but it's good to hear it from someone more expert than myself!  :)21:03
joh6nnhah! i'm so totally not an expert21:04
TheGentlemanyou surely know more than myself... i'm just a user21:04
joh6nnsame here.  in fact, i'm here trying to get my own issue solved :)21:05
TheGentlemani see... well, i go try on that machine21:05
TheGentlemancross your fingers21:05
joh6nncrossed :)21:07
titan_arkrobin0800: installing :)21:07
titan_arkrobin0800: done21:07
slow-motionhi21:11
titan_arkrobin0800: cant figure out what to do next21:17
robin0800titan_ark:  do aptitude search pulseaudio21:18
titan_arkrobin0800: phew running thro console is difficult21:20
robin0800titan_ark: use kpackagekit if you prefer21:21
titan_arkrobin0800: yeah, i guess everything is installed!21:22
titan_arki remember doingsudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins "pulseaudio-*" paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter yesterday21:22
robin0800titan_ark: this is what I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/361533/21:24
titan_arkrobin0800: mine looks a bit differenthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/361535/21:27
titan_arkcant decipher what it means though21:28
robin0800titan_ark: have you tried to run the pulseaudio volume control its in multimedia if installed correctly21:29
titan_arkrobin0800: ah it works!21:32
titan_arkrobin0800: but it seems to only read the integrated mic array of the notebook instead of the mic i have plugged in21:32
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help21:33
robin0800titan_ark: run alsamixer and make sure its enabled21:33
titan_arkok21:34
titan_arkhmmm21:39
titan_arknothing seems to change21:39
titan_arkand its noisy too21:39
robin0800titan_ark: does alsamixer show it?21:40
titan_arkrobin0800: there is no change in alsa mixer21:40
titan_arkit still looks the same21:40
robin0800titan_ark: this is running from console?21:41
titan_arkyes21:41
titan_arkshall i show you a screenshot?21:41
robin0800titan_ark: is your microphone there?21:42
robin0800titan_ark: you might have to scroll there could be lots21:43
titan_arkhttp://imagebin.ca/view/fbHDyp5a.html21:46
titan_arkhttp://imagebin.ca/view/ltk1nZ.html21:46
titan_arkthe mic seems to be on21:46
robin0800titan_ark: use curser keys to see if there are any more21:48
smellynoserPhotoshop, Kubuntu and Wine? Ridiculously slow? Bad idea? I don't like GIMP by the way :)21:49
titan_arkrobin0800: nope21:54
titan_arkno pore21:54
titan_ark*no more21:54
joh6nnsmellynoser: ridiculously slow, bad idea21:57
robin0800titan_ark: the mics don't appear to be active21:57
titan_arkhmmm21:58
titan_arkcant seem to be able to set it r ight21:58
joh6nnsmellynoser: if you want something that's closer to photoshop, you might try Pixel21:58
joh6nnit's like $50, but runs natively on mac, windows, and linux21:58
smellynoserjoh6nn: Thanks21:59
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help22:25
meowbuntuhi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.22:26
meowbuntui know xp could lable them and not use them22:29
meowbuntuhi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.22:34
meowbuntui know xp could lable them and not use them22:34
meowbuntuok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,22:56
rmrfslashI upgraded finally to 9.1022:57
rmrfslashlooks good22:57
rmrfslashwhere's quassel?22:57
meowbunturmrfslash: if not here then hes away22:57
joh6nnmeowbuntu: for the kubuntu desktop, there should be a package named something kubuntu-desktop.  don't know about for ubuntu-studio22:57
joh6nnrmrfslash: i just upgraded to 9.10, too; have you noticed any problems with network speed?22:58
joh6nnmy wireless connection is really slow since upgrading last night22:58
rmrfslash:-/22:58
rmrfslashno. Quassel the IRC client22:59
rmrfslashwas in 9.0422:59
rmrfslashrather came with 9.0422:59
rmrfslashI can apt-get it in this version22:59
joh6nnit's in Apps > Internet, for me22:59
joh6nnright near the top of the list22:59
rmrfslashNot for me23:00
joh6nnhmm.  what happens when you try to install it?23:01
rmrfslashThe following packages have unmet dependencies:   quassel: Depends: quassel-data (= 0.5.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable23:01
rmrfslash:-/23:01
joh6nntry installing that package directly, see what it says23:01
rmrfslashquassel-data is installing23:02
rmrfslasho I don't get that error23:02
rmrfslashThe following packages have unmet dependencies:   quassel: Depends: quassel-data (= 0.5.0-0ubuntu1) but 0.5.2-0ubuntu1~karmic1 is to be installed23:02
rmrfslashwtf23:02
rmrfslashaptitude offers for me to downgrade quassel-data to fix the dep issue23:03
rmrfslashI guess we'll go w/ that23:04
rmrfslashseemed to work23:04
joh6nnyeah, sounds like you've got some borkage there23:04
rmrfslashthen I did a aptitude update/full-upgrade which moved me up to the correct version23:05
rmrfslashgo figure23:05
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Bizzehif i create a logical partition, then create 3 partitions for ubuntu within that (boot, swap and root) and set kubuntu to install grub to (hd0) will kubuntu installer recignise windows 7 and add it to the boot list/23:14
tsimpsonPlease do not click any of those links23:15
FloodBotK3!netsplit23:16
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:16
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help23:21
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robin0800_joh6nn: different drivers , different network manager?23:46
joh6nnrobin0800_: just now tried upgrading to a new driver from backports, no love23:46
joh6nngetting ready to try wicd23:46
joh6nni don't think that's it, though, unless they made some serious changes to NM between jaunty and karmic23:47
robin0800_joh6nn: I think they did23:47
joh6nnoh ah?  then perhaps that's it23:47
joh6nnwell, let's see what happens with wicd, then23:47
robin0800_joh6nn: make sure you have a backup23:48
joh6nndid that last night before upgrading :)23:48
joh6nnwell, here goes nothing.  hopefully, i'll be back in a moment23:49
cinexis there somewhere i can dowload kubuntu 9.1 with kde3 ?23:49
cinexthe wife doesnt like kde423:50
robin0800_cinex: try gnome23:50
cinexnvm23:50
cinexfound it23:50
cinexpfft gnome23:50
trinitywhy dont people like gnome?23:51
cinexno alternate cd though :/23:51
robin0800_cinex: yes there is23:52
Koliatrinity: according to the success of Ubuntu, it's worng to say that people dont like gnome ;)23:52
trinityoh well;) i am kind of noobie in this. but i ve noticed some people dont like gnome for some reason.23:53
cinexim used to kde23:54
robin0800_trinity: its not as flash as kde but more functional in MHO23:55
Koliatrinity: well kubuntu uses KDE, so in this chan you will find people that prefer kde over gnome. And troll about it :)23:55
cinexI'm not trolling23:55
Koliacinex: i wasn't talking of you23:55
cinexexcersizing my freedom is all :p23:55
cinexexcersizing my bad spelling t oo23:56
Koliajust saying that trashing gnome in a kde-related chan is "normal" ;)23:56
trinitystill wrong;)23:56
Koliaand reciprocally23:56
trinityah okay;)23:56
macowell....we might tease gnomeies...but trashing's a bit extreme23:56
macounless you're nixternal23:56
maco!nixternal23:56
ubottuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Windows7 lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, and help on the MIRC client too! <nixternal> I LOVE MIRC!!!23:56
APERSON!ot23:56
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:56
trinityat least you re not windows users trolling people who dont how to fix that silly system23:57
Koliamaco: english not my mother language, sorry for bad use of "trash" .. but you got the idea :)23:57
macoKolia: well, my point is it's all in good fun. we tease them, they team us, and then if its at a conference, a few rounds of beers tend to follow23:57
macos/team/tease/23:57
Koliamaco: yep i agree23:58
Kolialet's stop off topic :)23:58

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