[00:03] <gino_> xdcc
[00:25] <Windopain> i always see screenshots of rather unique desktop configurations... are there any decent sites w/ walkthroughs on how to setup non-default configurations?
[00:30] <daskreech> Windopain: Such as?
[00:30] <Windopain> just various looks/feels for the desktop
[00:30] <Windopain> don't have anything specific at the moment
[00:31] <Windopain> kinda an abstract question... guess it's either, "yeah, thissite.com" or "wtf are you talkinga bout" :)
[00:32] <[Relic]> daskreech, in the old version it would just be a normal file list or thumbnails, in the live cd I couldn't find any way of showing just a file list, it always had thumbnails in gwenview
[00:34] <daskreech> [Relic]: Far as I know it's just thumbnails. What would you want with a plain listing?
[00:35] <[Relic]> animations that at 24 frames a second will all look quite the same
[00:35] <daskreech> Windopain: I know what you are talking about about but it's a lot of variety out there
[00:36] <daskreech> [Relic]: There would be no animations with a plain listing :)
[00:36] <[Relic]> precisely I could just pick the frame to check that I needed rather than being distracted by the other 2400+ thumbnails
[00:37] <daskreech> [Relic]: Ah you have a whole set of photos that all look the same?
[00:38] <daskreech> So you know what you are looking for by name?
[00:38] <[Relic]> you can easily end up with a lot that look very similair, also seems like a waste of resources to thumbnail everything
[00:39] <daskreech> Thumbnails are shared in KDE so not that much of a waste
[00:39] <daskreech> Dolphin uses them etc
[00:41] <daskreech> [Relic]: So how do you identify them?
[00:44] <[Relic]> most are simply numerically sequenced however with the the thumbnails only not too many per page, was like 2x3 times on the normal list vs thumbnails.  Not sure I saw a way to reduce the thumbnail size either, but didn't really play with it much on the new live cd
[00:47] <daskreech> [Relic]: at the bottom right there is a slider to get the thumbnails larger or smaller at the bottom left there is a filter so you can filter out ranges or whatever
[00:55] <Windopain> why would gnome system monitor be running when i'm using kde?
[00:56] <daskreech> Cause you started it somehow?
[00:59] <Windopain> hmm.  sounds like something id do
[00:59] <[Relic]> one more reason not to allow gnomes into your computer  :)
[01:00] <daskreech> :-)
[01:00] <daskreech> Windopain: If you want you can make an activity then play with your desktop
[01:00] <[Relic]> which version of FF is current for kubuntu?
[01:01] <Windopain> damn, running two VMs simultaneously has brought my system to its knees ... if i find the job# of one can i kill it through a terminal and not affect the other?
[01:14] <daskreech> 3.5
[01:15] <daskreech> Windopain: yes
[01:45] <cjae> Hi, sorry to ask but I cant seem to get it, I deleted my kdewallet since I had forgotten the password to send and check mail, I do not want to have to store my pop password with kmail, how do I re-enable kwallet with kontact?
[01:45] <cjae> I created a new wallet "My Wallet" and set it in kde control module
[01:45] <cjae> still prompts for pop password
[01:45] <cjae> Installed: 4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2
[01:50] <meowbuntu> hi i have a vailed ubuntu os i am wanting to know if there is a kubuntu repo i can add
[02:05] <meowbuntu> hi i have a vailed ubuntu os i am wanting to know if there is a kubuntu repo i can add
[02:05] <Riddell> karmic testers for KDE SC 4.4 RC 2 needed
[02:06] <Riddell> meowbuntu: install kubuntu-desktop if you want kubuntu
[02:06] <meowbuntu> Riddell, are you sure kubuntu is already a fully tested os
[02:06] <meowbuntu> and stidio
[02:07] <meowbuntu> y need to test kde when kubuntu
[02:07] <Riddell> I don't know what you're talking about
[02:07] <meowbuntu> you said   <Riddell> karmic testers for KDE SC 4.4 RC 2 needed
[02:08] <meowbuntu> kubuntu has been finalised.
[02:09] <Riddell> because it's a new version of KDE
[02:10] <meowbuntu> o i c is that not for ubuntu 9.2
[02:10] <meowbuntu> 9.20
[02:10] <meowbuntu> the version after karmic
[02:13] <maco> there is no 9.20
[02:13] <maco> unless on your planet there are 20 months in a year
[02:13] <maco> :P
[02:13] <meowbuntu> maco the version after karmic as i said
[02:13] <maco> 10.04
[02:13] <meowbuntu> ok point
[02:13] <maco> and kde sc 4.4 is going into karmic-backports i assume...
[02:13] <maco> Riddell: right?
[02:14] <Riddell> beta PPA
[02:19] <meowbuntu> maco you the guy in #ubuntu
[02:19] <maco> i am in #ubuntu, but i am not a guy
[02:21] <meowbuntu> really then what are you a cat
[02:22] <maco> Riddell: last you saw me, what species and gender was i?
[02:22] <Riddell> a lovely lady
[02:23] <maco> thank you dear
[02:25] <maco> !away | meowbuntu-afk
[02:25] <maco> Riddell: wait wait but when its the final release, its going to stay in the beta ppa?
[02:26] <Riddell> maco: no then it'll go to updates
[02:51] <meowbuntu-afk> maco, i did not use any away message just changed my nick so ppl know i'm away
[02:51] <maco> meowbuntu-afk: that's what it's talking about
[02:51] <maco> the /nick shows a line in everyone channel
[02:51] <maco> whereas if you just /away, it marks you as away in the nick list on the client without spamming every channel
[02:54] <meowbuntu-afk> nope not exactly
[02:55] <meowbuntu-afk> a long away message would be like this
[02:55] <maco> it doesn't say "long" it says "noisy"
[02:55] <maco> noisy = we can see it
[02:55] <maco> just using /away marks you away silently
[02:56] <meowbuntu-afk> maco hope you saw that
[02:57] <meowbuntu-afk> either or alot of ppl use -afk if they are away. you are teh first person to mention this and i been using freenode for 6-8 months
[02:58] <maco> this is #*ubuntu* channel rules, not freenode server rules
[02:58] <maco> (* being a wildcard)
[03:21] <meowbuntu> hi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media??
[03:26] <werfact> meowbuntu: what do you mean sometimes
[03:28] <meowbuntu> does not matter. old comp
[03:28] <meowbuntu> just need a low resorce webbrowser that can still play flashmedia ok
[03:43] <Screamo_Smurf> Anyone know anything about speeding up Kubuntu by disabling stuff i dont need?
[03:46] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: there are so few extra things... are you finding it is slow?
[03:46] <happy> the first thing I would remove is compositing
[03:47] <Screamo_Smurf> happy im running a 800mhz 370mb pc :/
[03:47] <happy> in that case do not use KDE
[03:47] <maco> use xfce
[03:47] <maco> or maybe just lxde
[03:47] <happy> I would not suggest gnome on that either
[03:47] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[03:47] <Screamo_Smurf> i dont like gnome or xfce :S
[03:48] <happy> I would go with maco's suggetiong
[03:48] <Screamo_Smurf> kde is fast enough for me
[03:48] <maco> oooh or enlightenment. i used e17 on my old pentium2
[03:48] <Screamo_Smurf> its actualy a little faster then gnome
[03:48] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: On machines that bad I use icewm :-P
[03:48] <Screamo_Smurf> well sadly im used to poorly performing pcs
[03:48] <Screamo_Smurf> this pc with kubuntu runs faster then my 1.7gh 1gb winxp pc
[03:49] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: I am used to cutting down on stuff until it makes "poorly performing pcs" look like multi million dollar super computers :-P
[03:49] <happy> lol
[03:50] <Screamo_Smurf> so how do i make it run a bit faster lol
[03:51] <happy> no idea :-P
[03:51] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[03:51] <Screamo_Smurf> i opened system monitor and noticed there was alot of stuff running in the background...
[03:52] <Screamo_Smurf> theres no way i need all of it running
[03:52] <Screamo_Smurf> also i dont like how it like saves sessions :/
[03:58] <Screamo_Smurf> :////
[03:58] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: then disable it
[03:58] <Screamo_Smurf> where lol
[03:58] <Screamo_Smurf> ive onbly been using Kubuntu for 12 hours
[03:58] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: I do not play with most of the gui stuff :-P
[03:59] <happy> I will look
[03:59] <happy> but I know about as much as you about configuring kde. And I have been using it for years :-\
[03:59] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[04:00] <happy> it is under system settings -> advanced -> session manager
[04:00] <Screamo_Smurf> i also have 2 hd's id like to be automagicly mounted at startup
[04:00]  * happy figures as long as he is here he should disable it himself
[04:01] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: the only way I know how to do that is with fstab. Have you used other linuxes before?
[04:01] <Screamo_Smurf> ubuntu for the past 22days lol
[04:01] <happy> lol
[04:01] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: why do you need it automatically mounted?
[04:01] <Screamo_Smurf> but i know more then most ppl would at this point
[04:02] <happy> :-)
[04:02] <Screamo_Smurf> becuz on is my ubuntu hdd and the other has all my music on it
[04:02] <Screamo_Smurf> i cant play music unless i mount it first
[04:02] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: why don't you run ubuntu and kubuntu on the same system?
[04:02] <Screamo_Smurf> dont like the clutter lol
[04:02] <happy> you can switch between them without restarting
[04:02] <happy> ok
[04:02] <Screamo_Smurf> why does everybody ask me that
[04:03] <happy> you should be able to mount it through dolphin
[04:03] <happy> but I have never actuall tried it... (I am new to the whole gui thing :-P)
[04:03] <Screamo_Smurf> i can mount it thru dolphin
[04:03] <Screamo_Smurf> but
[04:04] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: it should show up as a volume in dolphin
[04:04] <Screamo_Smurf> im lazy
[04:04] <happy> lol
[04:04] <Screamo_Smurf> i dont want to have to manualy mount it to listen to music
[04:04] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: all you need to do is the icon. Then you can browse your music :-P
[04:05] <Screamo_Smurf> yea but i want it AUTOMAGICLY done :/
[04:05] <happy> ok
[04:06] <happy> !fstab
[04:06] <happy> Screamo_Smurf: automounting partitions is still a config file thing
[05:42] <Roey> Hello
[05:43] <Roey> I can't hear sound all of a sudden, and mpg123 gives me errors:  http://pastebin.com/m4dfb857e  <-- sound doesn't play for me, not with mpg123 and not with amarok.  It says it cannot open hw1,0
[05:44] <Roey> I have noticed it since apt-get upgrading.  I upgraded these packages:  http://pastebin.com/m7a585a2b
[05:44] <Roey> hola de nuevo, ze
[05:44] <Roey> *zetheroo
[05:44] <zetheroo> Roey: howdy
[05:44] <zetheroo> :)
[05:44] <Roey> :>
[05:44] <Roey> I appreicate your dedication
[05:45] <zetheroo> haha
[05:45] <zetheroo> have you tried playing audio through FF?
[05:46] <Roey> So I tried it with Fx open and it still doens't play
[05:46] <zetheroo> and what about playing a Flash vid in FF?
[05:46] <zetheroo> any audio?
[05:46] <Roey> lemme check
[05:47] <Roey> zetheroo:  nope
[05:47] <Roey> just video
[05:47] <zetheroo> ok
[05:48] <Roey> yeah. I just have no idea.
[05:48] <zetheroo> very odd ... because it seems that most people have this issue but with FF and not with the other players
[05:49] <Roey> I did sudo fuser -v /snd/*
[05:49] <Roey> and got only kmix
[05:50] <zetheroo> I don't use Kubuntu so I am not sure how the audio options would work there ... but is there a place to change your audio output hardware device?
[05:52] <Roey> I don't thgink it makes a difference?
[05:53] <zetheroo> I was just wondering because it says it cannot open hw1,0 ....
[05:53] <Roey> ah
[05:53] <Roey> well I tried with other devices through amarok and got the same thing
[05:53] <Roey> I understand
[05:54] <crimsun> you need to use sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq*
[05:54] <zetheroo> I am also asking in #alsa for you ...
[05:54] <crimsun> no need, zetheroo; I'm reading here.
[05:54] <zetheroo> crimsun: are you from the #alsa camp? :)
[05:54] <zetheroo> ok .. cool
[05:59] <Roey> crimsun:  I've just been doing sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[06:01] <Roey> crimsun:  /dev/dsp:            roey      24296 F.... python
[06:02] <Roey> crimsun:  oh, that was minirok
[06:02] <Roey> killed minirok, I can play mpg123
[06:04] <zetheroo> Roey: so what was the problem?
[06:04] <crimsun> Roey: on your system, anything that uses /dev/dsp will block native alsa apps
[06:05] <crimsun> Roey: i.e., because your sound card does not have hardware support for pcm multiopen
[06:06] <Roey> zetheroo:  ah, that minirok hogged something
[06:06] <Roey> guess it doesn't use alsa?
[06:07] <Roey> right
[06:07] <crimsun> it uses alsa's oss emulation, and your hw doesn't support multiopen
[06:07] <zetheroo> ok .. interesting .. good to know
[06:07] <Roey> ok
[06:07] <Roey> how do you know this?
[06:07] <zetheroo> Roey: he is damn clever :P
[06:07] <Roey> ;)
[06:07] <crimsun> it's black magick
[06:08] <Roey> :)
[06:13] <Karhu> hi everyone...i was owndering if anyone can tell me the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" in adept manager
[06:13] <Karhu> wondering*
[06:14] <werfact> Karhu: i thought it was safe and full
[06:35] <UK-DO> How to start PPP broadband on Kubuntu I need to connect thru ethernet adpter to DHCP and then again needs to dial to connect the net how do I configure modem thingy
[07:20]  * krash_n_burn grumbles
[07:21] <krash_n_burn> Okay, I just did an install of kubuntu 10.4 me guesses, well my grub is all messed up...
[07:21] <krash_n_burn> can I just put /dev/sda5 in there instead of the uuid crap?
[07:22] <krash_n_burn> or is there an easier way to fix it, I'm kinda tired and wanted to get this up and running quickly :P
[07:48] <pat|nG> mornin
[07:48] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: afternoon :)
[07:48] <pat|nG> just installed xchat but i can't find it
[07:49] <pat|nG> where can i find my xchat newly installed?
[07:50] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: press : Alt+F2 > Type xchart
[07:50] <shadeslayer> um xhat
[07:50] <shadeslayer> typos all the way :P
[07:51] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: did it open?
[07:52] <pat|nG> can't see anything
[07:52] <pat|nG> i pressed alt f2
[07:52] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: which KDE?
[07:52] <shadeslayer> KDE version i mean
[07:52] <pat|nG> i got kde4
[07:53] <pat|nG> kubuntu 9.10
[07:53] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: the one which is installed by default? or did you upgrade to the latest?
[07:54] <pat|nG> i installed it from software management
[07:54] <pat|nG> default is quarsil
[07:55] <zubin71> hello, im currently using kubuntu. i want to limit the windows i open in a particular workspace to appear in the toolbar of that particular workspace only. how do i do that? please help
[07:55] <shadeslayer> zubin71: right click the empty space in the taskbar and click taskbar settings
[07:55] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: ok did alt+F2 not open a bar thingy in the middle?
[07:56] <zubin71> shadeslayer : you mean panel options...
[07:56] <shadeslayer> zubin71: no the taskbar settings,it should be the topmost option
[07:57] <zubin71> shadeslayer : all i have are "task manager settings" and "panel options" :(
[07:58] <shadeslayer> zubin71: yeah task manager settings... didnt i say that
[07:58] <shadeslayer> zubin71: by taskbar i meant taskmanager settings :)
[07:58] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: ?
[07:59] <zubin71> shadeslayer : oh sorry, hadnt gotten that... :(
[07:59] <zubin71> shadeslayer : yup its done!
[07:59] <zubin71> shadeslayer : :)
[07:59] <zubin71> shadeslayer : thank you :)
[07:59] <shadeslayer> zubin71: you can also completely replace the task manager
[07:59] <zubin71> shadeslayer : replace?
[07:59] <shadeslayer> zubin71: with something like stasks or smooth tasks
[08:00] <shadeslayer> zubin71: its a plasmoid basically one sec
[08:00] <zubin71> shadeslayer i see
[08:00] <zubin71> shadeslayer , sure take ur time...
[08:00] <shadeslayer> zubin71: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586
[08:01] <zubin71> shadeslayer , gee, thnkx :)
[08:01] <pat|nG> i see this textbox
[08:01] <pat|nG> shadeslayer
[08:01] <pat|nG> i typed xchat but nothing happns
[08:01] <zubin71> shadeslayer and i am having a hard time configuring my shortcuts...
[08:01] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: ok now whatever app you want to launch type the name in it
[08:02] <shadeslayer> zubin71: K > Sysytem Settings > Input
[08:02] <shadeslayer> zubin71: make that Keyboard and Mouse
[08:02] <zubin71> shadeslayer rite now, switch workspaces as <ctrl><f1> etc... i configured to move with <ctrl><alt><1> etc... but its not working
[08:02] <zubin71> shadeslayer ok
[08:02] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: hmm.. ok type : Konsole
[08:03] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: and press enter,youll get a terminal up and running,type xchat in that terminal
[08:06] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: did it launch ?
[08:07] <pat|nG> yes
[08:07] <pat|nG> thanx shadeslayer
[08:07] <pat|nG>   but upon connecting i got error message :(
[08:08] <pat|nG> like infected with a virus trojan
[08:08] <pat|nG> wat does it mean?
[08:08] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: um please close xchat and launch it from alt+F2 now.. it should work
[08:09] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: and linux has no viruses :)
[08:09] <shadeslayer> !virus > pat|nG
[08:14] <pat|nG> i get this virus thingy
[08:14] <pat|nG> :(
[08:14] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: virus thingy? can you do a imagebin?
[08:14] <shadeslayer> !imagebin | pat|nG
[08:17] <pat|nG> http://imagebin.org/81397
[08:17] <pat|nG> shadeslayer
[08:17] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: hang on :)
[08:18] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: lemme try that with irssi
[08:19] <pat|nG> what will i do now?
[08:19] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: looks like a network problem not a xchat problem
[08:19] <shadeslayer> i cant even connect :P
[08:20] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: can you connect via quassel?
[08:21] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: and you seem to be glined on undernet... dont know why,but that may be preventing you from connecting
[08:21] <pat|nG> nope
[08:21] <pat|nG> on quassel it works fine
[08:22] <pat|nG> don't know with this xchat
[08:22] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: hmm.. please contact the network ops on undernet then,its a network problem not a xchat problem
[08:23] <maco> pat|nG: are you behind a proxy?
[08:23] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: xchat connects to freenode right?
[08:23] <maco> pat|nG: maybe you dont have your proxy variables set for gnome or something?
[08:23] <pat|nG> i do used proxy
[08:24] <pat|nG> should i remove?
[08:24] <maco> i dont know how to change the proxy settings, so sure, try without
[08:25] <maco> if you can
[08:25] <pat|nG> i removed it
[08:25] <pat|nG> but same
[08:25] <maco> hmm i dont know then
[08:29] <pat|nG> maco: is it possible to have a 3D desktop on a built-in gfxcard?
[08:29] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: i dont see why not
[08:30] <pat|nG> how?
[08:31] <pat|nG> i tried to check all box like 3D cube box
[08:31] <pat|nG> but nothing happnd
[08:34] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: do you have the desktop effects enabled?
[08:35] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: things like transperency and other window effects
[08:37] <maco> pat|nG: yeah works fine on intel graphics
[08:40] <pat|nG> really?
[08:40] <pat|nG> how?
[08:40] <pat|nG> i tried yesterday bro
[08:40] <pat|nG> seems can't find a way to activate it
[08:45] <pat|nG>  maco?
[08:46] <maco> whats up?
[08:46] <maco> oh
[08:46] <maco> which intel?
[08:46] <maco> 965 and 945 should work...
[08:48] <pat|nG> i got dell 1545
[09:04] <titan_ark> Daugha|n: sup? long time no see =)
[09:07] <titan_ark> hey could anyone help me out with configuring Knetworkmanager.
[09:07] <titan_ark> its driving me crazy
[09:10] <titan_ark> anyone???
[09:22] <titan_ark> anyone around?
[09:45] <Daugha|n> No, we're taking the night off. =)
[10:10] <eeos> hi! Is there an application to edit video subtitles in kubuntu? I want to add subtitles to a video shot by my wife
[10:20] <LuciusMare> ohai
[10:24] <titan_ark> any help with alsa :(
[10:24] <titan_ark> cant get my sound
[10:27] <pat|nG> alt+f2 then type: alsamix
[10:27] <pat|nG> check all volumes
[10:36] <HoellP> hey...
[10:37] <HoellP> i desperately try to set "mic as output" and "line as output" to true, but kmix always resets the value after some time without sound
[10:37] <HoellP> is there any workaround i could try?
[10:39] <HoellP> i'm on rc2 since today btw
[11:01] <noaXess> hi all
[11:01] <noaXess> was up today?
[11:12] <noaXess> how can i set write access to a ext4 usb harddisk? normally it will be mounted like this: /dev/sdc1 on /media/BIGFOOT type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[11:13] <noaXess> but i can't write as normal user.. only as root/ with sudp
[11:13] <noaXess> sudo ^
[11:25] <Neremor> hello!
[11:25] <Neremor> is there any free software to remote-control a windows 7 pc via kubuntu?
[11:26] <shadeslayer> Neremor: i dont think so
[11:26] <HoellP> Neremor: vnc?
[11:26] <HoellP> should work on any system
[11:27] <Neremor> ok, that sounds good. could you please tell me what i need to install on the windows and the kubuntu mashine?
[11:28] <HoellP> on kubuntu you just need to run "krdc" in internet section of the menu
[11:28] <HoellP> and install some kind of vnc server on windows
[11:28] <HoellP> i think tightvnc is one, but i no very little about windows
[11:28] <HoellP> and nothing about 7
[11:32] <noaXess> Neremor: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php
[11:33] <noaXess> Neremor: in krdc then just connect to vnc://ip-of-vnc-server:5900
[11:33] <noaXess> 5900 is the dfault vnc server port..
[11:38] <pat|nG> i can't play cd audio
[11:38] <pat|nG> anyone?
[11:40] <noaXess> !audio | pat|nG
[11:51] <Alarm> hello, i am using the Ozone window decoration and also activated shadows in my desktop effects
[11:51] <Alarm> unfortunately i do not see any shadows behind windows no matter how i change my shadow settings  (kde4.2)
[12:03] <tdgs> hello
[12:03] <tdgs> I just installed kde 4.4rc1 from the beta ppa
[12:04] <tdgs> and I am having some trouble
[12:04] <tdgs> with the kaddressbook application
[12:04] <tdgs> it does not have any menus
[12:04] <tdgs> when I click the File menu for example
[12:04] <tdgs> I get an empty list
[12:05] <tdgs> the same happens with all the other menus, except the settings menu
[12:05] <tdgs> any ideas? should I file a bug report?>
[12:07] <tdgs> no?
[12:18] <pat|nG> !audio
[12:18] <pat|nG> !MP3
[12:25] <Alarm> hello, i am using the Ozone window decoration and also activated shadows in my desktop effects
[12:25] <Alarm> unfortunately i do not see any shadows behind windows no matter how i change my shadow settings  (kde4.2)
[12:30] <tdgs> !help
[12:31] <tdgs> anyone experiencing problems with kaddressbook in kde 4.4 (kubuntu 9.10)? Here, I can see no menu entries in File, View etc. Any ideas?
[12:32] <shadeslayer> tdgs: btw ask in #kde if this channel goes to sleep :P
[12:33] <tdgs> thx
[12:45] <BlessJah> hi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file, could someone pastebin it?
[12:46] <BlessJah> file can be named similar like kde4.ubuntu
[12:51] <HoellP> hmm
[12:51] <HoellP> pastebin.com messes up lots of the comments
[12:51] <BlessJah> HoellP: use anything u want, u can even query me
[13:01] <BlessJah> hi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from 9.04, could someone pastebin it?
[13:10] <pat|nG> i got an error stating cannot connect to a server using xchat coz it has virus? anyone? how come?
[13:18] <trakinas> Hi all! does anyone here work with mysql? I was reading a query and there is something I could not understand
[13:23] <DerHorst> trakinas: go further
[13:23] <invaderzim> Question/problem: In KDM, after choosing console login, I can't go back to kdm with exit/logout, unless I restart the KDM service. Is that normal?
[13:23] <invaderzim> running karmic
[13:25] <trakinas> DerHorst: there is this String Replace syntaxe, okay, no problem wth that. but at the end, after the difinition  of what will be replaced theres something that looks like an interval, which is what I did not understand.
[13:25] <trakinas> DerHorst: SUBSTRING(REPLACE(p.message, '<br>', '<br />'), 1, 65534)
[13:26] <trakinas> it will replace <br> with <br />, okay. fine. but what is the 1, 65534 bit? I tried to find something on MySQL manual, but there's nothing like that on the String operations part.
[13:27] <DerHorst> 1 = start, 65534 = length
[13:27] <DerHorst> Could that be?
[13:28] <trakinas> DerHorst: maybe. but lengh of the string?
[13:28] <smellynoser> Hi - khubd is hogging like a bishop and causing my load to go up to 600. How do I stop it from hogging or restart it?
[13:30] <DerHorst> trakinas: I gues substring returns the first Part of p.message
[13:30] <DerHorst> and the end of the first part is at sign 65534
[13:30] <DerHorst> So everything which would stand behind 65534 would be not part of the returnstring
[13:31] <trakinas> DerHorst: I think I got it now. Thanks.
[13:32] <DerHorst> =)
[13:37] <invaderzim> no one/
[13:37] <invaderzim> ?
[13:39] <trakinas> invaderzim: never tried that. I dont know how this loggin mode works, so I can't help.
[13:39] <invaderzim> thanks
[13:51] <Biosftw> hey i cant access a certain file because of some invalid char inside its name
[13:51] <Biosftw> the file is coming from an old windows system (98 or something)
[14:00] <invaderzim> Bios you want to rename it?
[14:00] <invaderzim> Biosftw: you want to rename it or wanna read it in its current chars?
[14:00] <Biosftw> rename
[14:00] <invaderzim> Biosftw: use mc to rename
[14:00] <Biosftw> mc is what?
[14:01] <invaderzim> Biosftw: i always use it with this problems
[14:01] <invaderzim> Biosftw: apt-get install mc
[14:01] <invaderzim> Biosftw: midnight commander, a "console file manager"
[14:01] <Biosftw> ok i will give it a try
[14:06] <Biosftw> thx invaderzim
[14:06] <Biosftw> : D
[14:06] <invaderzim> no prob =)
[14:10] <aftertaf> concerning the topic : isnt there an RC2 now? i just had 150+ updates :)
[14:11] <aftertaf> kde 4.4
[14:11] <aftertaf> 4.3.95 RC2 in About KDE :) w00t
[14:13] <Tm_T> nope, RC2 is not released yet (:
[14:16] <BlessJah> hi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from kubuntu/ubuntu with installed kde (has to be 9.04), could someone pastebin it?
[14:18] <aftertaf> Tm_T: not sure bout that, as I'm using it now ....
[14:18] <aftertaf> just checked
[14:18] <Tm_T> aftertaf: sure, it's there but it's not released yet, so might still be missing something
[14:19] <aftertaf> well, nothing smells of fire as of yet ;)
[14:20] <Tm_T> urrrgh, still old Qt there
[14:21] <aftertaf> old? as in 4.5 ?
[14:22] <aftertaf> no, 4.4... ;)
[14:23] <Tm_T> aftertaf: no, Qt is 4.6.0 in beta ppa
[14:23] <aftertaf> k
[15:12] <LinusT> Hi. We've just migrated to Karmic, and some of our users are getting a Akonadi Self-Test failures window when they log in. The failures don't seem to affect functionality. How can I make the warning go away permanently?
[15:44] <Screamo_Smurf> i need help with my panel!!
[15:50] <Screamo_Smurf> nevermind i fixed it myself :)
[16:11] <shadeslayer> unofficial announcement... KDE 4.3.95 packages have arrived in the repos.. again this is UNOFFICIAL
[16:15] <Quintasan> Hey guys, anyone using Semantik can tell me what should the Preview window do?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: preview the item?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: oh i thought you meant semantic.. :P
[16:25] <Malin_> Does anyone know why I can't get the facebook plasma widget to work?
[16:25] <Malin_> I just get a widget with text
[16:25] <Malin_> saying
[16:26] <shadeslayer> Malin_: did you install plasma-scriptengines
[16:26] <Malin_> yeah....
[16:27] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ok... what does it say?
[16:27] <Malin_> it says
[16:27] <Malin_> script initialization failed
[16:27] <Malin_> but before I tried to reinstall the package
[16:27] <Malin_> it said sometihing else
[16:27] <Malin_> but I have to look for the message
[16:28] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ah,remove the widget, run : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : and then add the plasmoid again
[16:28] <pat|nG> anyone?
[16:28] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: whats the problem?
[16:28] <pat|nG> is it possible to run compiz in kde?
[16:28] <Malin_> the later one said: could not open the facebook package required for the facebook widget
[16:28] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: yep
[16:28] <pat|nG> any docs support?
[16:29] <pat|nG> thanx shadeslayer
[16:29] <pat|nG> u're the best bro
[16:29] <pat|nG> hehe
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Malin_: well did you install the facebook plasmoid?
[16:29] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: no problem
[16:29] <Malin_> shadeslayer: re add as reinstall, or just readd the widget?
[16:29] <Malin_> shadeslayer: yeah.. i did so
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Malin_: reinstall
[16:29] <Malin_> oki
[16:29] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: lemme check with ubottu
[16:30] <mofux> hi
[16:30] <mofux> i want to buy a pci-express graphics adapter that works flawlessy and with compositing under ubuntu / kubuntu?
[16:30] <mofux> is there one you guys can recommend?
[16:30] <Malin_> still same error......
[16:30] <mofux> also it would be nice if it is passively cooled
[16:30] <Malin_> the one with scriptengine...
[16:31] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=78831
[16:31] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: its a bit old ( 4.3.1 )
[16:31] <shadeslayer> mofux: i have a nvidia 8600 M GT,works fine
[16:31] <shadeslayer> !hardware | mofux : also see this
[16:32] <shadeslayer> mofux: nvidia is a preferred choice amongst users as they have better support
[16:32] <Malin_> shadeslayer: should kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental be run as root?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> Malin_: nope
[16:33] <Malin_> oki :)
[16:33] <mofux> shadeslayer: thank you, any prefered model among the nvidia cards?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> Malin_: it just refreshes system cache
[16:33] <Malin_> Think I forgot to uninstall the widget first.. trying again
[16:33] <mauri> my vlc is taking a lot of memory.... but i dont understand why, pleqase may you help me
[16:34] <shadeslayer> mofux: i heard the 8600 and 8800 had some issues,but the newer revisions sorted them out,but id still be wary of those 2 cards,rest all are fine i think
[16:34] <shadeslayer> mauri: happens with some of the apps here too,like nepomuk and konversation,itll die down eventually,it could also be vlc's cache
[16:34] <Malin_> I did: purge the widget, then I did run kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental and then I reinstalled the facebook widget. It complains about the scritpengine who failed....
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Malin_: can you paste a imagebin?
[16:35] <shadeslayer> s/imagebin/image
[16:35] <Malin_> how do I do that?
[16:36] <Malin_> is it an url?
[16:36] <mauri> shadeslayer: i've killed more than one time it
[16:36] <lorents> hi
[16:36] <shadeslayer> !imagebin | Malin_
[16:36] <mauri> shadeslayer: it start with 15B and grow....now it is 240MB
[16:37] <shadeslayer> mauri: it might be vlc's cache then
[16:37] <Malin_> ubottu: okey, thanx
[16:37] <shadeslayer> mauri: is it a beta version or something?
[16:37] <mauri> shadeslayer: the one on the repository
[16:37] <mauri> shadeslayer: karmic
[16:39] <shadeslayer> mauri: hmm... well the memory seems to be growing here too... probably just cache
[16:40] <Malin_> her the picture is: http://imagebin.org/81444
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Malin_: one sec
[16:41] <Malin_> okey :)
[16:41] <Malin_> hm.. I should have written: Her is the picture.. Think I have to start writing more English.....
[16:42] <tsimpson> Malin_: "here" not "her" ;)
[16:42] <Malin_> doh
[16:42] <Malin_> tsimpson: thanx
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Malin_: apparently i have the same problem :P
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Malin_: hold on
[16:43] <lorents> do you guys know why my root pasword in a grapical session works and in a terminal doesn't work?
[16:43] <Malin_> shadeslayer: what a coincidence hehe
[16:43] <tsimpson> lorents: did you set a root password?
[16:43] <lorents> i had this with solaris and  bsd, that's why i changed to kubuntu...
[16:43] <tsimpson> there is none by default
[16:43] <lorents> yeah
[16:44] <lorents> just standard called "root"
[16:44] <tsimpson> how/where are you trying to enter the password?
[16:44] <lorents> well i wanted to install vlc true a terminal session
[16:44] <lorents> and when it asked for priveledges it said there was no root accout
[16:45] <tsimpson> when what asked?
[16:45] <lorents> after i typed apt-get install vlc
[16:45] <tsimpson> as root, as your user, or with sudo?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: maybe if he types : passwd in a konsole?
[16:46] <lorents> with sudo
[16:46] <shadeslayer> lorents: without
[16:46] <tsimpson> sudo expects your password, not roots
[16:46] <lorents> ahh ok
[16:46] <tsimpson> that's kind of the whole point of sudo :)
[16:47] <lorents> and where do i give my own acc preveledges to do something like an install?
[16:47] <tsimpson> if you prefix a command with "sudo", it'll run as root
[16:47] <shadeslayer> Malin_: sorry cant get it to work
[16:47] <tsimpson> or "kdesudo" for GUIs
[16:47] <maco> lorents: first user account has that
[16:48] <Malin_> shadeslayer: ah..okey, maybe it is a bug?
[16:48] <maco> lorents: but /etc/sudoers is where thatd be configured
[16:48] <lorents> ah k thx maco
[16:48] <Malin_> shadeslayer: It works from a live-cd in a virtualbox, but maybe it has to do with kde4.2 vs 4.3?
[16:48] <shadeslayer> Malin_: maybe,but try : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook?content=106752 and http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook+Fixed?content=115612
[16:48] <tsimpson> sudo is not the easiest thing in the word to configure
[16:48] <maco> tsimpson: there are examples in the file....
[16:48] <Malin_> shadeslayer: thanx. I will take a look
[16:48] <pat|nG> shadeslayer: just read the post.......but got a question does it works fine with my laptop with a built-in gfxcard?
[16:49] <tsimpson> maco: even so
[16:49] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: yeah i dont see why not
[16:49] <maco> tsimpson: well, and "always use visudo"
[16:49] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I tried that one in the first link, but can't it to work
[16:49] <pat|nG> i see
[16:49] <tsimpson> lorents: if you do edit /etc/sudoers, use the command "sudo visudo"
[16:49] <pat|nG> thanx bro
[16:49] <pat|nG> u're the best
[16:49] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ah,try the 2nd
[16:49] <pat|nG> hope u'll be online all the time here
[16:49] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: no problem
[16:49] <pat|nG> ahehehe
[16:49] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I will
[16:49] <shadeslayer> pat|nG: well i want to but cant :P
[16:49] <lorents> k thx tsimpson
[16:50] <trinity> i am not sure how to install nvidia driver. i mean after i type in 'sudo aptitute install nvidia...' and then tab - there are so many options popping out and i dont know what to choose exactly.
[16:51] <pat|nG> i got lots of thingy to be fixed and i'm still learnin kubuntu distro...first time in linux tho...but it's worth tryin.....
[16:52] <tsimpson> trinity: use the hardware drivers manager
[16:52] <tsimpson> in the application menu under "System"
[16:53] <trinity> will try now
[16:53] <Malin_> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.org/81049
[16:54] <Malin_> shadeslayer: same error as with the first link
[16:54] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I tried to manually install both, but It dosen't shows up in the add widget wizard
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Malin_: remove the 'plasmoid' filter
[16:56] <Malin_> ah
[16:56] <Malin_> where do I remove the filter?
[16:56] <mauri> shadeslayer: how can i empthy the cache
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Malin_: in the filter field... when you select : install plasmoid from file
[16:56] <francesco_> what is this?
[16:56] <Malin_> I feel poor for shadeslayer who has to answer so many questions...
[16:57] <Malin_> oki
[16:57] <shadeslayer> mauri: you cant
[16:57] <shadeslayer> Malin_: nah ive grown used to it,i used to ask so many questions thats how i learnt,ask all you want
[16:58] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I see.. hm.. can't figure out about the filter....
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Malin_: kde 4.3?
[16:58] <Malin_> hm.. or maybe I did
[16:58] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[16:58] <Malin_> yeah it is kde.4.3
[16:58] <Malin_> shadeslayer: the filter when I try to install from file, and get the filebrowser-open dialog thing? :)
[16:58] <shadeslayer> when you have to find the plasmoid,just below filename theres a filter fieled,delete the filter word : plasmoid
[16:59] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:59] <shadeslayer> *fiedl
[16:59] <shadeslayer> meh.. field
[17:03] <Malin_> shadeslayer: Its like it not installs....
[17:04] <trinity> the hardware manager says that my nvidia driver is enabled but is not in use, because it's proprietary and kubuntu cant fix it:< any other ways to install it?;/
[17:05] <Malin_> trinity: download the NVIDIA........run package for your card
[17:05] <trinity> cant:< silly chrome doesnt want to download it from nvidia.
[17:05] <Malin_> you can hit: shift + alt + f2 to get to a shell
[17:05] <Malin_> then do
[17:05] <trinity> i did that
[17:05] <Malin_> sudo service kdm stop
[17:06] <trinity> if you mean sudo command
[17:06] <trinity> what will that do?
[17:06] <Malin_> sudo chmod +x NVIDIApakcage.run
[17:06] <Malin_> sudo sh NVIDIApackage.run
[17:06] <Malin_> go through the setup
[17:06] <Malin_> then
[17:06] <Malin_> reboot or maybe just
[17:06] <Malin_> sudo service kdm start
[17:07] <Malin_> the sudo installs as root, you have to be root to install it
[17:07] <Malin_> trinity: Can't you download it from another browser? or just rightclck and save as
[17:07] <shadeslayer> trinity: do you want binary packages or the source?
[17:07] <Malin_> Don't think you will get a source of the NVIDIA pacagke, as it's not open source
[17:08] <shadeslayer> (hint : binaries are better since you can auto upgrade them)
[17:08] <trinity> sorry, what is the difference between them? im new to linux
[17:08] <trinity> aah;)
[17:08] <Malin_> awh....
[17:08] <Malin_> yeah. It's maybe better to install nvidia through the repo
[17:08] <shadeslayer> trinity: ok well then binary it is,easier to maintain for you till you get accquainted with stuff
[17:08] <Malin_> but if it's somehow not works....
[17:08] <shadeslayer> trinity: ok now,do you want bleeding edge or the stable ones?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> Malin_: i can make it work :P
[17:09] <Malin_> me too
[17:09] <shadeslayer> Malin_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[17:09] <Malin_> but It's not the latest drivers...
[17:09] <trinity> :) if you too make it work i ll hug you;)
[17:09] <trinity> two*
[17:09] <shadeslayer> trinity: well which driver do you want? bleeding edge or the stable ones?
[17:09] <trinity> i need smth at least... my screen is blurry with horrible resolution
[17:10] <shadeslayer> trinity: well choose one then :P
[17:10] <markus_> hy everybody
[17:10] <shadeslayer> markus_: hi
[17:10] <trinity> difference?:>
[17:10] <shadeslayer> trinity: bleeding edge drivers are better but not stable
[17:10] <markus_> my sound is only working sometimes and sometimes I get only knack sounds. could it be that pulse and alsa kill eachother?
[17:10] <trinity> i do need smth stable untill i become more or less cleverer;)
[17:10] <shadeslayer> can crash and other stuff,stable ones have lesser features but dont crash
[17:11] <Malin_> maybe trinity could tell wich card?
[17:11] <Malin_> and so one.. but hm...
[17:11] <trinity> sure, one sec
[17:11] <markus_> is it possible to remove pulseaudio completely?
[17:11] <Malin_> think so
[17:11] <trinity> NVIDIA, GeForce G102M
[17:11] <shadeslayer> trinity: ok press alt+F2 and type jockey-kde
[17:11] <Malin_> hm.. maybe give up that facebook-widget :(
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yeah probably,i prefer kopete chat
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Malin_: oh i have a idea
[17:12] <Malin_> trinity: I hava G105M almost same card then ;)
[17:12] <trinity> ;)
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Malin_: install the web slice widget or similar web browser widget and point it to facebook
[17:12] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I do use pidgin, because the facebook-chat-plugin for kopete dosen't work for me
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ah if you compile from sources it works :P
[17:12] <Malin_> shadeslayer: that's a workaround who can work :)
[17:12] <trinity> done that, hardware manager says that my driver is activated, but not in use ;/
[17:12] <Malin_> shadeslayer: really? how? :) I think I could give it a try
[17:13] <shadeslayer> trinity: did you reboot after it installed?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Malin_: for kopete?
[17:13] <Malin_> for kopete yeah
[17:13] <trinity> err... i dont remember;/ was yesterday at 2am.. lemme do it now;)
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ok do you want the constant flux git download or the point release?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Malin_: point release is better if you cant update git regularly
[17:16] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[17:16] <SamWeasley> Hello! Anyone here tried remaster Kubuntu with Remastersys? I need some tips
[17:16] <trinity> wheee! thank you thank you thank you!;) now it works... just needed to restart;) and my wobbly windows work again!
[17:16] <shadeslayer> trinity: wobbly windows are fun :P
[17:17] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: oh hey
[17:17] <SamWeasley> And also I need some helps with KDE Effects and a Intel video board
[17:17] <trinity> oh no>< i removed tasks or smth from the task menu;/ how do i get it back?:/
[17:17] <trinity> and yes they are indeed;)
[17:17] <shadeslayer> trinity: add the taskbar widget to the taskbar
[17:18] <shadeslayer> Malin_: whatcha thinkin?
[17:19] <Malin_> shadeslayer: Don't know if I understod what exactely you mean
[17:19] <Malin_> maybe a point relase then? :)
[17:19] <shadeslayer> Malin_: well do you know what git is?
[17:19] <Malin_> yeah
[17:19] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ok here : http://github.com/dmacvicar/kopete-facebook/downloads
[17:19] <Malin_> it's something like wget or something I guess
[17:19] <trinity> ok added, but they are kind of switched places with System Tray;/
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yeah kinda.. its a revision control system
[17:20] <Malin_> hm.. maybe it's not, but hm.. I have know the name
[17:20] <Malin_> oki
[17:20] <shadeslayer> trinity: click on the cashew in the bar and then drag the task manager
[17:20] <trinity> 0_o
[17:21] <shadeslayer> trinity: theres a cashew on the extreme right of the taskbar
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Malin_: after you download it, untar it somewhere and then make a folder called build,cd to that folder using a terminal and then ill give you further instructions
[17:22] <Malin_> okey
[17:22] <shadeslayer> Malin_: build folder is in the folder you untarred
[17:22] <Malin_> I'll make that folder inside the untared folder?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yes,something like : kopete-facebook/build/
[17:22] <Malin_> awh. yeah
[17:22] <Malin_> you just said so
[17:22] <Malin_> mhm
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Malin_: done?
[17:23] <Malin_> jupp done
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ok now : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:24] <Malin_> it's the newest version ;)
[17:24] <Malin_> so well.. done somehow
[17:25] <Malin_> do I have to run make?
[17:25] <Malin_> or cmake?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Malin_: oh wait add  libkopete-dev and libqjson-dev to that
[17:25] <Malin_> okey thanx
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Malin_: done installing those two?
[17:25] <Malin_> not yet
[17:25] <Malin_> it installes
[17:26] <Malin_> or installs or however it is spelled... hm
[17:26] <Malin_> done
[17:26] <trinity> oh i ve just deleted the taskbar at all, barely found how to return it back... thankfully it's easier than on windows
[17:26] <shadeslayer> Malin_: ok now run these one by one : http://pastebin.com/f34a3490
[17:26] <Malin_> trinity:  I know how to fix it in gnome, but maybe it's something like that in kde too?
[17:26] <shadeslayer> trinity: yeah its a bit confusing for new comers.. understanding the concept of widgets in the taskbar
[17:26] <Malin_> Somoen who knows?
[17:27] <Malin_> hm.. is the ; something you added for some reason?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Malin_: thats my personal buildscript i use that i just posted :P
[17:27] <Malin_> a :)
[17:28] <shadeslayer> Malin_: its called buildthis.sh and i just cd to the build folder and run buildhis.sh :P
[17:28] <Malin_> hm.. a lot easier :p
[17:28] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yeah :)
[17:28] <Malin_> hehe
[17:28] <Malin_> bash-script
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yep :)
[17:29] <Malin_> :D
[17:29] <trinity> yay!
[17:29] <Malin_> so the ; is for doing thing in " a chain" somehow? :)
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Malin_: quickly now i have to get to work on some kde webby stuff :P
[17:29] <Malin_> like? :)
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yeah you can run the commands one by one like : sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Malin_: wanna help?
[17:30] <Malin_> almost finished
[17:30] <trinity> and the last question: do you know how to 'shrink' the task manager window icons, so that they were squares instead of rectangles. ive seen it on someone's computer, but i dont know the name of that app
[17:30] <Malin_> the same as writing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> trinity: ah smooth tasks
[17:30] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I would like to help, but what should I do? :)
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Malin_: one and the same
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Malin_: its *very* simple
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Malin_: http://community.kde.org/Scratchpad/www-rework
[17:31] <trinity> :O plasma workspace crashed when i dragged smooth tasks;/
[17:31] <Malin_> shadeslayer: I will take a look :)
[17:31] <shadeslayer> trinity: 4.3 ?
[17:32] <trinity> 4.3 what?:>
[17:32] <shadeslayer> trinity: kde 4.3?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Malin_: did it compile?
[17:32] <Malin_> shadeslayer: yeah
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Malin_: installed?
[17:32] <trinity> ;/ how do i check it? *blush*
[17:32] <Malin_> shadeslayer: yeah, its istalled
[17:32] <Malin_> installed
[17:33] <shadeslayer> trinity: oh open any app and check the help > About KDE
[17:33] <trinity> KDE - Be Free!
[17:33] <trinity> Platform Version 4.3.90 (KDE 4.3.90 (KDE 4.4 RC1))
[17:33] <Malin_> is it common to get errors when running: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental ?
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Malin_: cool,it disconnects now and then here... maybe because i have the git version
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Malin_: yeah
[17:33] <Malin_> trinity: kde4.4 is not finished, and could then be very buggy
[17:34] <Malin_> shadeslayer:  should I just run kopete to check?
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Malin_: that step is not required.... i just added it since some apps needed it
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Malin_: sure go ahead
[17:34] <trinity> oki. that means i ll jst have to bare the rectangular task manager windows?
[17:34] <trinity> untill a better version
[17:35] <shadeslayer> trinity: hmm thats a known problem,i had to compile smooth-tasks to solve that
[17:35] <trinity> how?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> trinity: theres a PPA with the latest packages... dont need to compile
[17:36] <Malin_> something I miss with kopete and pidgin is webcam support for wlm-sessions
[17:36] <markus_> For sound the backend xine is selected in kubuntu. what other options exist?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> trinity: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586 << read carefully
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Malin_: phonon-gstreamer
[17:36] <Malin_> oh.. I got an inncomming messege in kopete from facebookchatt omg... :D
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Malin_: :D
[17:36] <trinity> another facebook-dependant;)
[17:39] <Malin_> shadeslayer: Works like a sharm... sadly those new versions is not in the repos yet :(
[17:39] <Malin_> is there a irc-plugin as well? and how good is it?
[17:39] <Malin_> anyway
[17:40] <Malin_> I will take a closer look at the site you linked to
[17:41] <markus_> Now I installed phonon-gstreamer. But I do not get any sound with it. Damn.. Sound is really badly implemented in kubuntu :-(
[17:42] <trinity> what does 'yum' do?
[17:43] <markus_> Systemsettings say I have: HDE Intel (CONEXANT Analog) is that the problem? What does it mean?
[17:49] <trinity> 1
[17:49] <Brhad56> 2
[17:50] <kamola> http://imagebin.org/81459
[17:58] <xorred> I have / on disk1 and /home on disk2, how do I move / on disk 2 too?
[17:59] <xorred> I guess a new folder - home - must be created there and /home/content must be moved to /home/, then copy all  from / to disk2 and then run grub?
[18:07] <xorred> does kubuntu i386 support 4+ GB of ram?
[18:07] <xorred> previously I had to download the x64 bit version
[18:08] <Malin_> looks like kwin use some cpu
[18:09] <Malin_> always over 20%
[18:09] <Tm_T> Malin_: you use some effects?
[18:09] <xorred> can I use 6GB of ram with the default i386 release of 9.10?
[18:09] <Malin_> it might be the reason... so I should try to disable some
[18:09] <xorred> 9.04 only saw 4
[18:10] <Malin_> xorred: not without building the kernel for support higher than 4GB
[18:10] <Malin_> it's possible to do so
[18:10] <Tm_T> no need to build, just to install
[18:10] <xorred> so I need to download the x64 bit iso
[18:10] <xorred> install?
[18:10] <xorred> what should I apt-get
[18:10] <Malin_> Tm_T: I spoke to xorred
[18:10] <ikonia> bes option to do it
[18:10] <Malin_> or spoked
[18:11] <Tm_T> Malin_: me too (:
[18:11] <xorred> I used to install the server kernel with all problems after that
[18:11] <xorred> so .. pae kernel
[18:11] <Malin_> if you have a 64-bit cpu it's better to install the 64-bit version of the os
[18:11] <Malin_> Tm_T: ah.. my bad... sorry
[18:11] <xorred> core 2 duo
[18:12] <xorred>  apt-cache search pae
[18:12] <xorred> xen-hypervisor-3.3 - The Xen Hypervisor for i386 and amd64.
[18:12] <Malin_> yeah, then you better go for 64-bit os ;)
[18:12] <xorred> only package it finds
[18:12] <xorred> kk
[18:13] <xorred> well.... I upgraded several times, and the system is ...
[18:13] <xorred> I'd like to just reinstall
[18:13] <xorred> alsa broke on every upgrade
[18:13] <xorred> and now only pulse is available
[18:13] <xorred> is pulse the default in new releases?
[18:13] <xorred> pulseaudio
[18:14] <PorbsK> Hello I need some help bout configuring PPP broaband. So is Ubuntu setup and Kubuntu setup same ?
[18:14] <xorred> similar
[18:14] <PorbsK> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf ?
[18:18] <xorred> gosh... the kubuntu  4.4.3 beta is... not stable :)
[18:18] <xorred> err, 4.4.rc1
[18:19] <Malin_> brb
[18:24] <trinity> it's not, no:<
[18:26] <pulaski> Hi, can anyone suggest a channel where I can ask questions about the openoffice writer application in kubuntu 9.10?
[18:30] <Bizzeh> hi, does kubuntu recognise windows7 when you attempt to dual boot and set it up to be a bootable OS in grub?
[18:30] <PorbsK> can anyone show the icon that confirmes  "network connected" bcoz everytime I start Kubuntu 9.10 i see only network card icon with cable pulled out
[18:31] <PorbsK> how does the LAN connected icon looks like
[18:33] <aqaq> hello how do u defrag ubuntu
[18:34] <trinity> Bizzeh: ive got both of them installed and it's fine working
[18:36] <ikonia> aqaq: you don't need to
[18:36] <aqaq> ok thank you
[18:38] <Malin_> where to configure a widget? the configfiles...
[18:42] <FloodBotK1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[18:43] <Malin_> I'm trying again
[18:43] <Malin_> Is there anybody in here?
[18:43] <Tm_T> Malin_: sure is, just be patient (:
[18:43] <trinity> i am here! i am alive!
[18:44] <Malin_> tryed just because of FloodBotK1's message....
[18:44] <Malin_> tried
[18:44] <trinity> stasks dont want to work still:< hmm
[18:46] <trinity> is it just me, or whenever i open okular file it doubles the windows, so that i get file<1> and file<2> opened at a time
[18:46] <Tm_T> trinity: never happened for me
[18:47] <trinity> hmm..just opened one of my lectures again... and i get "Lecture1.pdf - Okular" and "same - Okular<2>" at the same time
[19:00] <trinity> oh great, my laptop cam is inverted in skype and i can't change it. any ideas guys?
[19:02] <Duskao> is there anyone here that can tell me how to change my start up programs? or how to access the start up script?
[19:07] <Malin_> noone knows how to configure a widget-code?
[19:14] <Malin_> Think I found what I was looking for
[19:19] <Malin_> maybe not all......
[19:45] <PeterFA> I've got considerable reason to believe that the KDE composite layer is pretty buggy. It often captures the mouse in some mysterious way that makes it impossible to click on most things but allows you to click on certain things on the taskbar, but also the KDE menu cannot be click on.
[19:46] <PeterFA> Plus I have random freezes.
[19:46] <PeterFA> I disable the composites and suddenly everything is working without a problem.
[19:46] <PeterFA> It's back to that usual Linux solidness of which I've grown so fond.
[19:46] <PeterFA> Is there a workaround to get the composites without the bugs?
[19:47] <PeterFA> What is -r?
[19:47] <mplabs> Hello !
[19:48] <mplabs> I want to create again the list of available sessions, can I do that ?
[19:48] <mplabs> right now I have "default", "xfce" and "failsafe", where is KDE ? :S
[19:48] <tsimpson> PeterFA: see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[19:49] <PeterFA> tsimpson, thanks.
[19:49] <PeterFA> Guys, if you want a thrill, take anti-candida and drink a lot of coffee.
[19:49] <PeterFA> The anti-candida makes you very sensitive to coffee.
[19:51] <PeterFA> The thing is you feel happy and crap for no reason without feeling bad in any way.
[19:51] <PeterFA> When I first took this anti-candida, my mouth started to go numb. :p
[19:53] <pat|nG> got to go guys
[19:53] <Tm_T> !ot | PeterFA
[19:53] <pat|nG> thanx for the help
[19:53] <pat|nG> bye
[19:53] <mplabs> well, I can't enter to my KDE session
[19:53] <mplabs> because it's not in my available list
[19:53] <mplabs> what can I do ?
[19:56] <Tm_T> mplabs: reinstall kdebase-workspace-data
[19:56] <mplabs> reinstalling
[20:01] <Guest66405> doesn't work
[20:01] <Guest66405> :|
[20:01] <Guest66405> I'm still in xfce
[20:02] <Tm_T> hmm, interesting
[20:02] <Guest66405> can I force KDE by startx or similar in the command line ?
[20:02] <Tm_T> startkde
[20:02] <Guest66405> I mean.. like startxfce4
[20:03] <Guest66405> ok
[20:03] <Tm_T> Guest66405: but, you still don't have /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop ?
[20:04] <Guest66405> yep, I have
[20:04] <Tm_T> then it should be there, try reboot just for giggles
[20:04] <Guest66405> haha, it will be my 30+ reboot today
[20:05] <Guest66405> :P
[20:05] <Tm_T> if you have that file, it should appear into session menu
[20:05] <Guest66405> rebooting...
[20:11] <joh6nn1> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty
[20:11] <joh6nn1> i've tried disabling ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference
[20:15] <mplabs> Thank you !
[20:15] <mplabs> It works now :)
[20:15] <Tm_T> mplabs: brilliant (:
[20:15] <mplabs> by the way.. it was because of kdebase-workspace-bin
[20:15] <Tm_T> ah
[20:16] <mplabs> I just reinstalled it
[20:17] <mplabs> That's all. thank you again
[20:17] <titan_ark> could anyone suggest a voice recording tool
[20:17] <titan_ark> i need a basic one
[20:17] <titan_ark> trying to configure my microphone
[20:17] <titan_ark> :(
[20:19] <joh6nn> titan_ark: i'm fond of audacity
[20:19] <joh6nn> it goes beyond basic, but it's fairly straightforward
[20:20] <titan_ark> joh6nn: okay :) have used it before.
[20:20] <titan_ark> shall try it
[20:20] <titan_ark> i just cant get to get my mic to work
[20:20] <titan_ark> no matter what i try with alsa
[20:20] <joh6nn> sure it's not something with the mic?
[20:20] <titan_ark> or prolly i am not doing it right
[20:20] <titan_ark> nah the mic works
[20:20] <joh6nn> works on another box, etc?
[20:21] <titan_ark> same box on windows boot
[20:21] <titan_ark> works perfectly
[20:21] <joh6nn> ok
[20:21] <joh6nn> have you checked to make sure the mic's not muted in the alsa-mixer?
[20:21] <titan_ark> i had set it right once before with a wubi install, cant seem to remember how i did it then
[20:21] <titan_ark> the alsa mixer i installed seems very basic
[20:21] <titan_ark> no options at all
[20:22] <titan_ark> unless i try it in command
[20:22] <raindog> Has windows grouping been removed from the latest kde 4.4 release?
[20:22] <joh6nn> i'm familiar with it almost exclusively as a command line tool; didn't even realize it came with a gui
[20:22] <Tm_T> raindog: no
[20:23] <raindog> Tm_T: Hmm, can't find it.
[20:23] <titan_ark> joh6nn: ah
[20:23] <titan_ark> could i post a screenshot and if you could tell me if its configured right?
[20:24] <Tm_T> raindog: which windeco? it's not supported in all of them
[20:24] <joh6nn> sure.
[20:24] <joh6nn> don't confuse that for me knowing what i'm talking about, though :)
[20:24] <raindog> Tm_T: Ah, using bespin.  I'll switch and check it out.  Thanks for the info.
[20:24] <Tm_T> raindog: it doesn't support it, I'm 99 % sure (:
[20:25] <raindog> Tm_T: That was it.  Thank you.
[20:25] <Tm_T> np
[20:25] <raindog> 4.4rc2 seems rather snappy to me.  Excellent work.
[20:26] <titan_ark> joh6nn: :) http://imagebin.ca/view/0r3Yzkfc.html
[20:26] <titan_ark> and this too http://imagebin.ca/view/E8KqCA0.html
[20:27] <chimp-champ> In Kubuntu 9.10 I don't have a system tray for updates any longer - is that a bug?
[20:27] <Tm_T> chimp-champ: it shows only when there's updates, do you mean it doesn't show up even when there is?
[20:28] <soee> anyone who is using panel at the top of the screen?
[20:28] <Tm_T> yes?
[20:29] <soee> Tm_T: u do?
[20:29] <titan_ark> joh6nn: you still with me?
[20:29] <Tm_T> !anyone | soee (:)
[20:29] <joh6nn> titan_ark: yeah, thinking
[20:30] <titan_ark> joh6nn: okay thx :)
[20:30] <joh6nn> it's not immediately obvious to me whether those are muted or not; i only ever mess with alsa-mixer when my sound isn't working
[20:30] <joh6nn> then i forget about it and put it back on the shelf
[20:30] <titan_ark> :D same here
[20:30] <titan_ark> i had set the damnt hing a few weeks back
[20:30] <titan_ark> in wubi
[20:30] <titan_ark> now did a dual boot and :P
[20:31] <ideasi> Is this the right place to ask tech questions?  I'm pretty new to this whole linux thing and I'm a bit lost trying to make something work.
[20:32] <Tm_T> ideasi: yes (:
[20:33] <chimp-champ> Tm_T: I mean it in this way: Yesterday I looked in the systemsettings at "install and remove software" and found some corrections of bugs, they are called Updates :P . But in the system bar in my control panel there was no gear with the green arrow (like in 9.04) which showed updates.
[20:33] <ideasi> Okay, neat.  Well, I'm trying to get ninjavideo.com to work. .It's a divx video website.  I've tried installing mplayer, vlc, and totem (all with mozilla plugins of course,) but for some reason none of them seem to work.  I've spent the past 3 hours on google, trying out all the solutions there after searching for simply "ninjavideo kubuntu," but I'm sitll not having any luck.
[20:34] <titan_ark> joh6nn: i vaguely remember i needed to do something with the sound card INTEL hda ... and check for the port
[20:34] <titan_ark> nothing beyond that
[20:36] <Tm_T> chimp-champ: hmm, perhaps you don't have it installed, sorry don't know much of it as I remove those things when I see 'em
[20:37] <chimp-champ> Tm_T: It was standard in 9.04.
[20:38] <chimp-champ> And a have ticked all options which are about displaying notifications.
[20:38] <chimp-champ> Its a general problem for me since upgrading to 9.10.
[20:39] <Tm_T> chimp-champ: see if you have update-notifier-kde installed
[20:40] <chimp-champ> Yes, it is.
[20:40] <joh6nn> titan_ark: yeah, i'm stumped, other than to check and make sure the mic's not muted
[20:40] <titan_ark> joh6nn: okay. how do i check that?
[20:41] <joh6nn> if you tab over to the mic controls in alsa mixer, i think you can toggle mute with 'M'
[20:42] <titan_ark> does it indicate anywhere if it is muted?
[20:42] <titan_ark> cos when i press M nothing changes
[20:45] <TheGentleman> hello. I have already installed Kubuntu Karmic on 2 PC without problems. Now I have huge problems with a third one (follows)
[20:46] <joh6nn> titan_ark: yeah, it should say MM in the volume thing if it's muted.  but i'm not sure what to make of the lack of a volume indicator for the mic settings
[20:46] <titan_ark> joh6nn: ah yes, i see that option is only for the speaker output
[20:46] <titan_ark> its not there for the mic :P
[20:47] <TheGentleman> installation went smoothly and everything seemed to work fine. then I added the nvidia drivers from the Hardware Drivers menu and rebooted after completion (follows)
[20:48] <shadowhywind> hay all I'm trying to set up a openswan vpn (l2tp/ipsec) and I keep getting a but no connection has been authorized with policy=PSK error anyone have any ideas?
[20:48] <TheGentleman> at reboot the system can't start X !
[20:49] <TheGentleman> logged in from command line and tried startx gives a huge list of error messages
[20:49] <ripcord> titan_ark: hit your TAB key
[20:49] <titan_ark> ripcord: to get to capture?
[20:50] <ripcord> sorry, tab in alsamixer shows additional meters if they are available
[20:50] <TheGentleman> could i remove anythingt to have it again without nvidia drivers ?
[20:51] <titan_ark> ripcord: it just changes to capture or playback options on pressing tab
[20:51] <titan_ark> http://imagebin.ca/view/0r3Yzkfc.html
[20:51] <titan_ark> is my capture settings
[20:51] <ripcord> titan_ark: ah, ok
[20:51] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[20:52] <ripcord> titan_ark: I had major problems with alsa and my HDA Intel soundcard. Never could find a solution.
[20:53] <titan_ark> ripcord: hmm. i was able to configure it when i did a wubi install, cant seem to remember how i did it then
[20:53] <TheGentleman> How can i remove or disable nvidia drivers (installed from Hardware Drivers menu)? Something went wrong and K Karmic can't start X now!
[20:53] <titan_ark> i had to check for some port of the card and also the alsa GUI was more elaborate than the one i have installed now.
[20:53] <titan_ark> ripcord: cant figure it out
[20:54] <robin0800> titan_ark: if your feeling brave you could always try pulse audio
[20:54] <titan_ark> robin0800: :D
[20:54] <titan_ark> i am hoping i could set it right easily like the previous tim
[20:55] <ripcord> TheGentleman: the NVidia drivers should show up in synaptic if you search for them. Then you can uninstall them
[20:55] <titan_ark> when i tried gnome - Ubuntu the setup was so darn simple!
[20:55] <ripcord> or even in KPackageKit
[20:55] <TheGentleman> ripcor, I said that X doesn't start!!!  how can I run synaptic then?
[20:56] <ripcord> ah, if you remeber the driver name you can uninstall it with apt-get
[20:56] <robin0800> titan_ark: kde dosen't install pulse audio server by default gnome does
[20:56] <titan_ark> robin0800: hmm, so how do i go about doing it? am quite a noob
[20:57] <titan_ark> would appreciate it if you could help
[20:57] <TheGentleman> ripcord: yes, i know i can use apt-get, what i need to know is the driver name!
[20:57] <joh6nn> TheGentleman: try dpkg --get-selections *nvidia*
[20:57] <joh6nn> that should give you a list of everything installed with nvidia in the name
[20:57] <robin0800> titan_ark: sudo aptitude install pulseaudio
[20:58] <TheGentleman> thanks joh6nn
[20:58] <joh6nn> :)
[20:58] <titan_ark> robin0800: i guess i alreaady did that last night.
[20:58] <titan_ark> robin0800: says its installed to latest version
[20:59] <titan_ark> but i cant find the application when i search for it
[20:59] <robin0800> titan_ark: now install the pulse audio volme control
[21:00] <titan_ark> what is the packagename exactly?
[21:02] <TheGentleman> joh6nn, you suggest to remove or purge nvidia drivers ( i really dunno) ?
[21:02] <joh6nn> TheGentleman: remove will leave all their configuration information behind.  purge gets rid of everything
[21:03] <joh6nn> seeing as how the configuration they've got is obviously not working, i think purge might be best here
[21:03] <robin0800> titan_ark:  pavucontrol think
[21:03] <TheGentleman> that's what i thought too joh6nn, but it's good to hear it from someone more expert than myself!  :)
[21:04] <joh6nn> hah! i'm so totally not an expert
[21:04] <TheGentleman> you surely know more than myself... i'm just a user
[21:05] <joh6nn> same here.  in fact, i'm here trying to get my own issue solved :)
[21:05] <TheGentleman> i see... well, i go try on that machine
[21:05] <TheGentleman> cross your fingers
[21:07] <joh6nn> crossed :)
[21:07] <titan_ark> robin0800: installing :)
[21:07] <titan_ark> robin0800: done
[21:11] <slow-motion> hi
[21:17] <titan_ark> robin0800: cant figure out what to do next
[21:18] <robin0800> titan_ark:  do aptitude search pulseaudio
[21:20] <titan_ark> robin0800: phew running thro console is difficult
[21:21] <robin0800> titan_ark: use kpackagekit if you prefer
[21:22] <titan_ark> robin0800: yeah, i guess everything is installed!
[21:22] <titan_ark> i remember doingsudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins "pulseaudio-*" paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter yesterday
[21:24] <robin0800> titan_ark: this is what I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/361533/
[21:27] <titan_ark> robin0800: mine looks a bit differenthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/361535/
[21:28] <titan_ark> cant decipher what it means though
[21:29] <robin0800> titan_ark: have you tried to run the pulseaudio volume control its in multimedia if installed correctly
[21:32] <titan_ark> robin0800: ah it works!
[21:32] <titan_ark> robin0800: but it seems to only read the integrated mic array of the notebook instead of the mic i have plugged in
[21:33] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[21:33] <robin0800> titan_ark: run alsamixer and make sure its enabled
[21:34] <titan_ark> ok
[21:39] <titan_ark> hmmm
[21:39] <titan_ark> nothing seems to change
[21:39] <titan_ark> and its noisy too
[21:40] <robin0800> titan_ark: does alsamixer show it?
[21:40] <titan_ark> robin0800: there is no change in alsa mixer
[21:40] <titan_ark> it still looks the same
[21:41] <robin0800> titan_ark: this is running from console?
[21:41] <titan_ark> yes
[21:41] <titan_ark> shall i show you a screenshot?
[21:42] <robin0800> titan_ark: is your microphone there?
[21:43] <robin0800> titan_ark: you might have to scroll there could be lots
[21:46] <titan_ark> http://imagebin.ca/view/fbHDyp5a.html
[21:46] <titan_ark> http://imagebin.ca/view/ltk1nZ.html
[21:46] <titan_ark> the mic seems to be on
[21:48] <robin0800> titan_ark: use curser keys to see if there are any more
[21:49] <smellynoser> Photoshop, Kubuntu and Wine? Ridiculously slow? Bad idea? I don't like GIMP by the way :)
[21:54] <titan_ark> robin0800: nope
[21:54] <titan_ark> no pore
[21:54] <titan_ark> *no more
[21:57] <joh6nn> smellynoser: ridiculously slow, bad idea
[21:57] <robin0800> titan_ark: the mics don't appear to be active
[21:58] <titan_ark> hmmm
[21:58] <titan_ark> cant seem to be able to set it r ight
[21:58] <joh6nn> smellynoser: if you want something that's closer to photoshop, you might try Pixel
[21:58] <joh6nn> it's like $50, but runs natively on mac, windows, and linux
[21:59] <smellynoser> joh6nn: Thanks
[22:25] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[22:26] <meowbuntu> hi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.
[22:29] <meowbuntu> i know xp could lable them and not use them
[22:34] <meowbuntu> hi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.
[22:34] <meowbuntu> i know xp could lable them and not use them
[22:56] <meowbuntu> ok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,
[22:57] <rmrfslash> I upgraded finally to 9.10
[22:57] <rmrfslash> looks good
[22:57] <rmrfslash> where's quassel?
[22:57] <meowbuntu> rmrfslash: if not here then hes away
[22:57] <joh6nn> meowbuntu: for the kubuntu desktop, there should be a package named something kubuntu-desktop.  don't know about for ubuntu-studio
[22:58] <joh6nn> rmrfslash: i just upgraded to 9.10, too; have you noticed any problems with network speed?
[22:58] <joh6nn> my wireless connection is really slow since upgrading last night
[22:58] <rmrfslash> :-/
[22:59] <rmrfslash> no. Quassel the IRC client
[22:59] <rmrfslash> was in 9.04
[22:59] <rmrfslash> rather came with 9.04
[22:59] <rmrfslash> I can apt-get it in this version
[22:59] <joh6nn> it's in Apps > Internet, for me
[22:59] <joh6nn> right near the top of the list
[23:00] <rmrfslash> Not for me
[23:01] <joh6nn> hmm.  what happens when you try to install it?
[23:01] <rmrfslash> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   quassel: Depends: quassel-data (= 0.5.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[23:01] <rmrfslash> :-/
[23:01] <joh6nn> try installing that package directly, see what it says
[23:02] <rmrfslash> quassel-data is installing
[23:02] <rmrfslash> o I don't get that error
[23:02] <rmrfslash> The following packages have unmet dependencies:   quassel: Depends: quassel-data (= 0.5.0-0ubuntu1) but 0.5.2-0ubuntu1~karmic1 is to be installed
[23:02] <rmrfslash> wtf
[23:03] <rmrfslash> aptitude offers for me to downgrade quassel-data to fix the dep issue
[23:04] <rmrfslash> I guess we'll go w/ that
[23:04] <rmrfslash> seemed to work
[23:04] <joh6nn> yeah, sounds like you've got some borkage there
[23:05] <rmrfslash> then I did a aptitude update/full-upgrade which moved me up to the correct version
[23:05] <rmrfslash> go figure
[23:14] <Bizzeh> if i create a logical partition, then create 3 partitions for ubuntu within that (boot, swap and root) and set kubuntu to install grub to (hd0) will kubuntu installer recignise windows 7 and add it to the boot list/
[23:15] <tsimpson> Please do not click any of those links
[23:16] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[23:21] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[23:46] <robin0800_> joh6nn: different drivers , different network manager?
[23:46] <joh6nn> robin0800_: just now tried upgrading to a new driver from backports, no love
[23:46] <joh6nn> getting ready to try wicd
[23:47] <joh6nn> i don't think that's it, though, unless they made some serious changes to NM between jaunty and karmic
[23:47] <robin0800_> joh6nn: I think they did
[23:47] <joh6nn> oh ah?  then perhaps that's it
[23:47] <joh6nn> well, let's see what happens with wicd, then
[23:48] <robin0800_> joh6nn: make sure you have a backup
[23:48] <joh6nn> did that last night before upgrading :)
[23:49] <joh6nn> well, here goes nothing.  hopefully, i'll be back in a moment
[23:49] <cinex> is there somewhere i can dowload kubuntu 9.1 with kde3 ?
[23:50] <cinex> the wife doesnt like kde4
[23:50] <robin0800_> cinex: try gnome
[23:50] <cinex> nvm
[23:50] <cinex> found it
[23:50] <cinex> pfft gnome
[23:51] <trinity> why dont people like gnome?
[23:51] <cinex> no alternate cd though :/
[23:52] <robin0800_> cinex: yes there is
[23:52] <Kolia> trinity: according to the success of Ubuntu, it's worng to say that people dont like gnome ;)
[23:53] <trinity> oh well;) i am kind of noobie in this. but i ve noticed some people dont like gnome for some reason.
[23:54] <cinex> im used to kde
[23:55] <robin0800_> trinity: its not as flash as kde but more functional in MHO
[23:55] <Kolia> trinity: well kubuntu uses KDE, so in this chan you will find people that prefer kde over gnome. And troll about it :)
[23:55] <cinex> I'm not trolling
[23:55] <Kolia> cinex: i wasn't talking of you
[23:55] <cinex> excersizing my freedom is all :p
[23:56] <cinex> excersizing my bad spelling t oo
[23:56] <Kolia> just saying that trashing gnome in a kde-related chan is "normal" ;)
[23:56] <trinity> still wrong;)
[23:56] <Kolia> and reciprocally
[23:56] <trinity> ah okay;)
[23:56] <maco> well....we might tease gnomeies...but trashing's a bit extreme
[23:56] <maco> unless you're nixternal
[23:56] <maco> !nixternal
[23:56] <APERSON> !ot
[23:57] <trinity> at least you re not windows users trolling people who dont how to fix that silly system
[23:57] <Kolia> maco: english not my mother language, sorry for bad use of "trash" .. but you got the idea :)
[23:57] <maco> Kolia: well, my point is it's all in good fun. we tease them, they team us, and then if its at a conference, a few rounds of beers tend to follow
[23:57] <maco> s/team/tease/
[23:58] <Kolia> maco: yep i agree
[23:58] <Kolia> let's stop off topic :)