=== itnet7 is now known as itnet7_meetup [00:18] I'm testing hardy atm & persistence mode isn't working. can someone pls have a quick look & see if is should link to bug #263598 or bug #84591 or file a new bug? [00:18] Launchpad bug 263598 in casper "Hardy: Persistent mount of casper-rw" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263598 [00:18] Launchpad bug 84591 in casper "feisty 20070210/herd5 persistent mode doesn't work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84591 === Lupine is now known as Lupine|meetup === itnet7_meetup is now known as itnet7|meetup [01:58] is #484603 a security bug that needs to be tagged as such? [01:58] bug 484603 [01:58] Launchpad bug 484603 in indicator-applet "Lock Screen doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/484603 [01:59] ah, thanks :) [02:00] i remember some tlk of it [02:00] I would not consider it a security issue... from the point the system is set to auto-login, there is no security in place anymore. And there is a bypass [02:00] hggdh: this is *without* auto-login. [02:01] it not a security bug (i think)... hggdh thoughts ^^ [02:01] atrus: indeed, sorry. Missed the 'not' [02:01] yeah, i assume he was specific because of how often the auto-login related bug gets reported. :) [02:02] adding my experince, "I've found my machine unlocked a number of times, when I expected it to be safely locked away. As it turns out, this is the culprit, I've been telling my machine to lock and it hasn't happened." [02:02] now *this* is a security issue [02:04] I have set Importance to high there [02:05] (in my case, I run screensaver with auto-lock disabled. But whenever I leave the laptop, I manually lock it) [02:06] atrus -- are you also affected by it? [02:07] indeed, commented as such, and just hit the +affected and +subscribed buttons :) [02:08] heh. LP did not show your comment to me until I (again) refreshed the page === itnet7|meetup is now known as itnet7 === vish is now known as mac_v === mac_v is now known as vish === nigel_nb is now known as Guest58748 === nigelbabu is now known as Guest19591 [09:55] wtf? bug #511512 [09:55] Launchpad bug 511512 in ubuntuone-client "unable to connect to cloud on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511512 [09:55] oops bug #511514 actually [09:55] Launchpad bug 511514 in debian-installer "my car" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511514 [09:57] kermiac, O_o [09:57] kermiac, if thats a spammer... he has had to do some amazing lot of work [09:59] * kermiac chuckles [10:03] Thats dedication to spamming right there. [10:05] hehe === nigel_nb is now known as Guest97501 === nigel_nb is now known as Guest36386 [11:43] Morning all [11:43] morning xteejx [11:43] Hey qense :) [11:44] Anyone able to change bug 451620 to Triaged, Medium please...I have Bug Control privileges but it's my own bug [11:44] Launchpad bug 451620 in linux "[Hewlett-Packard Compaq Presario CQ50 Notebook PC] suspend/resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451620 [12:45] xteejx: the linux kernel folks move pretty quick on the kernel bugs [12:46] we could just wait for them [12:47] vish: Not if they don't know about it... [12:48] xteejx: tried #ubuntu-kernel ? [12:48] Besides, 3 months without triage tends to mean it won't be done, but there's enough information, I'm just not allowed to set status on my own bug even though I could. [12:49] Well I was going to just upstream it [12:49] ooh.. i didnt notice the date ;) [12:49] Although I should really test the latest mainline kernel... [12:49] :P [12:50] xteejx: btw, .31-14 is an old kernel... there are newere kernels.. do you still have a problem with those? [12:50] newer* [12:50] I'm using Lucid now, should really update it, but now its a different issue.... sod it I'll close it, there's no dupes [12:51] yeah , i'm on lucid too , the whole .31 series was very buggy [atleast for me] ;) [12:51] same [12:52] lucid suspends now and resumes, but X doesn't reinitialise properly :( [12:54] bug 507108 is the current one [12:54] Launchpad bug 507108 in linux "Compaq Presario CQ50-110EM resume failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507108 === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca [14:02] jcastro: Since you're a member of registry administrators, I've created the https://launchpad.net/nautilus-actions project and imported the branch. How do I transfer ownership of the project to the registry administrators and add it to the GNOME Project at Launchpad? === nigel_nb is now known as Guest70547 [14:31] qense: PM? [14:32] cjohnston: I solved it, I justed made the registry team the driver and added the project to the gnome LP project, that'll do it [14:33] hmm? [14:35] qense: I had already reported that bug as a Lernid bug.. So I duped yours.. Mine is private though, as I made it a security issue (since it automatically loads the links and could cause harm to users) [14:36] cjohnston: ah, other issue. That's why I didn't find a previous bug report. [14:36] cjohnston: but does it really need to be hidden? [14:37] It did that by default when I hit security.. My thinking is that we don't want to advertise the problem though... expecially with the event next week [14:37] incase someone gets any ideas [14:37] your subscribed to the bug though... [14:39] ok [14:39] but I'm not a bug supervisor or driver for Lernid, so I probably can't see the thing [14:39] to the bug report I mentioned there was already a branch attached with a fix [14:40] ic [14:41] Did anyone already contact jono? I haven't heard much from him about Lernid lately, there are still a few outstanding merge requests. [14:41] qense, I just fixed a dependency today [14:42] I mailed him, hopefully he should look into it [14:42] I hope so [14:43] there was a telepathy-idle dependency which didn't come up coz telepathy-idle is included in ubuntu livecd, not xubuntu [14:43] a lot of the connection problems are caused by Lernid not being able to handle running Telepathy Idle instances [14:44] yeah [14:44] When Lernid doesn't exit properly you won't be able to reconnect to the classroom until you kill telepathy-idle [14:44] which happens quite often at the moment because the fix for quiting is in some of the pending merge requests [14:44] qense, well, its all about accepting the merge, should be fixed when he puts a few hours into i [14:45] thanks for the heads up about killing telepathy-idle [14:46] someone should also look into Lernid's performance, it's quite slow sometimes. Even quitting takes ages [14:47] but that's probably related to the disconnecting from IRC [14:47] its not disconnecting properly I ink [14:47] s/ink/think [15:01] vish, you there? [15:02] om26er: BTW -- as soon as Brian is back he will set you up in bog-control [15:02] s/bog/bug/ [15:02] hggdh: define 'back'? [15:03] yofel: AFAICR he is/was traveling [15:03] ah, thx [15:03] hggdh, thanks [15:03] yofel: of course, this also applies to you ;-) [15:04] hggdh: I was wondering too why I didn't get a response from him yet, but I know he's a very busy person so I can wait :) [15:04] yofel: this is most probably why [15:06] om26er: o/ [15:07] vish, is this a simple task? https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/497728 [15:07] Launchpad bug 497728 in nautilus "Make default thumbnail size the same as the icon size" [Low,Triaged] [15:08] om26er: it is simple , but i dont think it is really an improvement [15:09] om26er: i'v seen the bug , i'v left it for later... [15:09] om26er: a few bugs , i/we usually try for a few days to see if they are an improvement or not [15:10] vish, its improvement for sure as the desktop will have a consistent feel [15:11] om26er: the icons look consistently aligned , but the image preview becomes small.. :( [15:12] om26er: did you find the icon causing Bug 500392 , i'm not sure where it is hidden , else its a simple fix :/ [15:12] Launchpad bug 500392 in hundredpapercuts "Default application icon does not scale properly because of low resolution. " [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500392 [15:13] I think both humanity and gnome icon theme have the same icon in this case [15:14] om26er: yup , i'v been looking where the icon is hidden.. if i know the icon.. i can fix it in humanity [15:15] * om26er is searching [15:15] vish, /usr/share/icons [15:15] /usr/share/icons/application-default-icon.png ? [15:16] it doesnt seem like the one.. [15:16] its named application-default-icon.png [15:16] * vish checks again [15:17] om26er: i'v seen that icon , but the one used is different.. === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [15:50] when i do sudo apt-get update it says that everything is up to date, but when I start the "update manager" gui it finds updates! is that a bug? [15:51] No, the two commands update different things [15:52] so how do i update everything from the terminal? [15:52] "apt-get update" updates the *indexes* of available packages which allow update manager to figure out what updates are available [15:52] ic [15:53] My personal favourite is to run "aptitude" which gives you an interactive terminal UI for managing upgrades. The keybindings take some learning, though [15:53] to say the least ;-) [15:53] if i do apt-get upgrade will that work? [15:54] Less interactive ways are "apt-get upgrade", "apt-get dist-upgrade", "aptitude upgrade" .... [15:54] also, sometimes aptitude actions are different from apt-get [15:54] * hggdh gets it every so often [15:54] k thanks guys [15:54] Mainly in that aptitude tends to be more proactive about removing stuff which is no longer requited [15:55] *required [15:55] yes [15:55] but if one does not know about it, it may surprise [15:56] also -- there is this thing about 'no longer required' -- I have gnome/kde/xfce installed. a chunk of kde packages are considered 'no longer required' [15:57] They won't be so considered if you clear their "automatically installed" flag === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:00] thanks a lot hggdh :) [18:00] how did I do? ;) [18:00] welcome. Good presentation! [18:00] nigelbabu: great session ;) [18:00] :) [18:02] * hggdh is feeling rather, er, proudy... === andresmujica1 is now known as andresmujica [18:03] hggdh, why? [18:04] because of what all y'all are doing [18:04] hehe :) [18:05] nigelbabu: you're fairly new right? or just new to -motu? [18:05] maco, hardly 6 months [18:06] hggdh: thanks for your help! [18:06] and already teaching how to submit *good* bug reports [18:06] maco, I've seen a lot of *bad* ones ;) [18:08] maco, plus I've talked with dan about hardware bugs too! [18:08] I hang out in -bugs and listen so much that I do hear a lot of what is said :) [18:28] if a bug exists in karmic and in lucid we have a new system for that matter( i.e. bug does not apply anymore) should it be marked invalid? [18:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/501898 [18:28] Launchpad bug 501898 in rhythmbox "tray icon changes width on play/pause" [Low,Incomplete] [18:30] om26er: no. A bug is still a valid bug while the system on which it was reported against is supported [18:31] and, in this case, rithmbox was taken out of the standard offering, but it is still available for install on Lucid (I use it, for example) [18:32] hggdh, but when a bug is reported against for example empathy 2.28 we mark it fixed if fixed upstream in the current development series [18:33] anyone here successfully using bughugger on kubuntu? it doesn't work the least bit for me [18:33] om26er: not really. We mark it "Fix Committed" if it has already been committed on Ubuntu (a debdiff was accepted, for example), and "Fix Released" when the new package is published [18:34] nixternal: failed with me also, on Gnome [18:34] does it just freeze? [18:34] I do the "Launchpad Says I'm Done" thing during the authorization, and it just freezes there [18:34] nixternal: no, I got a conflict with quickly [18:35] did not even get that far [18:35] * hggdh must clean up /usr/local [18:35] om26er: if the bug was reported against 2.28, and fixed (and published) on 2.29/2.30, then it *is* fix released [18:36] shoot, now it just worked :/ [18:36] interesting [18:38] and I spoke to soon :D [18:39] I remember Brian saying some actions could take a long time (due to LP searching) [18:49] hggdh, you speak spanish? [18:49] nigelbabu: I can read it, but -- for my life -- cannot *speak* it [18:50] but usually can translate :-) [18:50] can you help out the spanish user day [18:50] they are short of volunteers to administrate [18:51] as long as I do not have to type in Spanish, no problem [18:52] where is it? [18:52] hggdh, #ubuntu-charlas [18:53] hggdh, #ubuntu-charlas-chat [18:53] talk to diegotc [18:53] hggdh, I suggest you join us on #ubuntu-learning [18:53] hggdh: if people swear in spanish "no palabras malas" should work [18:54] heh. Thank you, maco [18:54] what does that mean? === andresmujica1 is now known as andresmujica [19:23] hggdh, how goes? polishing spanish skills? [19:23] nigelbabu: indeed. It is usually easy to understand, just weird [19:23] hehe :) [19:24] nigelbabu: "no palabras malas" means "no cusswords". Literal translation is "no bad words" [19:24] ah [19:57] does anyone else just get timeouts when trying to get a package bug list on LP? Or is it just me [19:58] yofel: I was getting it on Edge. Standard is working [19:59] ok, I'm on edge too, disabling redirect... [20:00] ok works, thx [20:02] welcome === mcas_ is now known as mcas [20:44] thekorn: When running zeitgeist-daemon from the Lucid package I get "ImportError: cannot import name config". /usr/share/zeitgeist does only contain the directory _zeitgeist, is that bad? [20:45] the repositories have 3.1, btw [20:47] qense, sorry, I have some guests around, can you please talk to RainCT or seiflotfy in #zeitgeist, or file a bug, I can have a closer look at it tomorrow [20:47] thekorn: alright, I'll ask someone else then. Have fun! [22:47] qense: thank you for taking two mentees [22:48] boas [22:48] boas, BUGabundo [22:49] hggdh: I should have taken more a lot earlier, especially considering that my first stopped (temporary, he said) because of a lack of time, but I forgot to add more. [22:52] I am happy no matter what :-) [22:58] hi ddecator ;) [22:58] hey yofel, haha [22:59] i'm trying to get more things figured out for BugSquad...i added the hugday tools, and i hope to attend bug days so i can at least see what it's like, even if i can't do much yet [23:00] ah, wait [23:00] i'll be in class during the meetings... [23:02] wait, i'm a little confused...yofel, so bugsquad meetings are at 16:00 UTC once a month, but what time are hugday meetings held? [23:03] ddecator: the hugdays aren't meetings, they are like: 'A day when we all gather to triage bugs about a specific app' [23:03] everyone joins when they have the time [23:03] we DO have members from all over the world ;) [23:04] ah, alright, on this channel? [23:04] haha, true [23:04] ddecator: yes [23:05] ddecator: other than the bugdays, if you're new, just like jcastro said hang out in this channel [23:05] yofel, alright thank you for the help, i'll make sure to be here every thursday to see what i can do. i emailed the mentor team leader to see what the status is in regards to me getting a mentor. i'm excited to be more involved =) [23:05] and i have this added to my favorite channels so i can see what goes on between hug days [23:06] hggdh, qense: can you be a bit more specific about the mentoring? [23:06] yofel: what would you like to know? [23:07] oh its ddecator that emailed the mentor team leader. Hum. *Who* is s/he? [23:08] -he- my name is Draycen, i'm a sophomore at depaul university and a huge fan of ubuntu. i love testing software and finding bugs, which i report, but i want to get more involved with ubuntu and i figured that the bugsquad would be a good fit for me [23:09] ddecator: welcome :-) [23:09] we will be more than happy to help you [23:09] hggdh: thanks =) [23:09] ddecator: Who exactly did you mail? Brian Murray? [23:11] ddecator: BTW -- hi. I am a sequence of consonants that make no sense in English. I use to hang around, and help whenever I can [23:11] "use to"? [23:12] I am being humble, maco [23:13] well i was just thinking you didnt seem to have disappeared [23:13] hggdh: i did everything that the wiki states i should do (made a wiki page, got my launchpad account all setup), so now the next step said i needed a mentor. qense: i emailed Pedro Villavicencio (the BugSquad Mentorship owner...sorry for the delayed response, i was trying to find his name haha) [23:14] ah, well you didn't have to mail him personally, although he'll probably respond to you. It is enough to follow the instructions on . [23:14] Anyway, I'm off, it's already late here and I don't want to be too tired tomorrow. ;) Sleep well everyone! [23:14] ddecator: oh, OK. Pedro is pedro_ here. You might apply for membership here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship [23:14] have a good one, qense [23:15] cya qense [23:15] hggdh: yes, i applied for membership there, and pedro is the owner so when i just clicked the "contact team's owner" link because i didn't know how long i was supposed to expect to wait [23:15] (11:11:59 PM) mode (+r-R ) by tsimpson ?? [23:15] still spam probs? [23:15] yep [23:16] lotsa [23:16] wow bad grammar...sorry about that [23:17] ddecator: np. We are still trying to straighten out the details on the mentoship, so I cannot say how long it will take [23:17] hggdh: remembered something I wanted to ask you: the bugsquad/Mentors wiki page mentions that you should apply to the bugsquad-mentorship LP team, when is one supposed to join the bugsquad team? [23:18] yofel: the busquad is *still* an open team, so one should join as early as one wishes [23:18] hggdh, yofel: any recommendations for what i can do to help while i wait to be assigned a mentor? i have joined my loco team and have been talking with them, but they aren't currently involved in working on anything [23:18] it will be closed later on, so that we can find who is really in, and who entered, and moved on [23:19] ddecator: you can join us here. Any of us will help you whenever you need [23:19] this channel is the best channel to get (generic) knowledge on bugs [23:19] ddecator: BTW, you are already here ;-) so just keep on [23:20] and *ask* when in doubt. Nobody will bite you [23:20] thanks hggdh, but is there anything i can do to help others? also, should i join the bugsquad team on launchpad then? sorry for all the questions, haha [23:20] ddecator: feel free to ask. Yes, you should joing the bugsquad [23:21] and to help... start looking at bugs that are in NEW/INCOMPLETE status. Find one, or more, packages you feel confortable with [23:21] and start trying to figure out what is the problem the original reporter had [23:22] and -- gain -- ask here whenever in doubt. Reading and following the links on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad will help you a lot [23:23] so i can give feeback on bugs, just don't change the status of them at this point? or i can test the bug and try to confirm it? (but not mark as confirmed, just say i reproduced it?) [23:24] if you test, and confirm, go ahead and mark it so (and add a comment explaining why) [23:24] and you *can* change the status. The only limitations are (1) you cannot set a but Triaged; (2) you cannot set Importance [23:25] notice I stated *cannot*. This means that you will be unable to, even if you try [23:25] alright, thanks...so the best thing would be to pick a package i am comfortable with, go to its page in launchpad, and view the bugs? or is there a place where i can see all of the new bugs submitted? [23:25] ok, good to know [23:26] to see all bugs of a specific package , you go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/source/+ [23:26] or just go to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu and search there for the package [23:27] alright, thanks hggdh, i really appreciate the help. i'll go see what i can do and let you guys know if i have anymore questions [23:28] ddecator: you are welcome. We appreciate the help. Please do not hesitate in asking here whenever needed [23:29] maco: lately I have been only virtually present (logged in, but busy elsewhere) [23:29] ah [23:29] um that path was wrong hggdh [23:30] its http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ [23:30] (.edge being optional, but my correction is regarding location of +) [23:30] ddecator: ^ [23:31] ah, thanks maco [23:32] ddecator: the more general information on how to find new bugs is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Untriaged%20bugs [23:33] as the page says, don't use the ML [23:33] (mailing list) [23:33] perfect, thanks yofel =) [23:33] * yofel prefers the IRC channel [23:33] indeeed, thanks, maco [23:47] just for the record, i confirmed my first bug =) [23:48] great [23:49] now get fixing it :D [23:50] ah, that i don't know how to do, haha [23:51] heh. Don't be nasty, BUGabundo ;-) [23:51] if i knew how gnome-panel worked, i would try =p [23:51] jk ddecator [23:51] triagger do important work too [23:51] don't try to fix the entire world [23:52] baby steps, baby steps [23:52] haha, that's my plan [23:56] is it alright if i change a status to "incomplete"? [23:57] ddecator: usually sure (tip: if you need help on a bug post the bug number please, like "bug XXXXX") [23:57] that way we know what you're talking about ;) [23:59] bug 511623, i left a comment asking the submitter to be more specific, so i thought i should mark it "incomplete" until they clarify the behavior [23:59] Launchpad bug 511623 in ffmpeg2theora "Two pass encoding worse than single pass for low video quality values." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511623 [23:59] 511632* [23:59] sorry, haha