/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/23/#ubuntu-learning.txt

doctormowb cjohnston00:08
cjohnstonty00:09
cjohnstonpleia2: are we doing open week or user days tomorrow?00:16
_marx_cjohnston: i thought it was uds!00:26
* cjohnston throws stuff at NC hoping to hit _marx_ 00:26
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction/cj  <--my edits to pleia2's work00:26
cjohnstonthougths?00:26
* _marx_ ducks00:26
* cjohnston goes to get another beer00:26
Pendulumhiya00:27
cjohnstonPendulum:00:28
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction/cj  <--my edits to pleia2's work00:28
cjohnstoncomments, changes, tell me it sucks, something please00:28
cjohnstonyou too _marx_00:29
Pendulumlooks good00:29
Pendulumanyone else have no idea what to say about themselves?00:29
cjohnstonmy name is Pendulum and im the queen of the world00:30
* _marx_ probably said too much took some out just now00:30
cjohnstonyou had better come up with something... or ill come up with something.. i work in publishing specializing in fantasy00:30
Pendulum:P00:30
PendulumI will say something, just not sure what00:31
_marx_looks good cj and nice email Pendulum00:31
* _marx_ worried about having enough content00:32
_marx_just don't know the level of user to expect00:32
Pendulum_marx_: you will be fine! I'm sure!00:32
_marx_i bought "special" coffee, locally roasted for tomorrow00:34
Pendulumhah00:35
_marx_light roast, more caffeine00:35
PendulumI am about to start drinking now. then bed at 9 theoretically and then up at 6 tomorrow morning :)00:35
Pendulumand then more drinking after things are over tomorrow night ;)00:35
cjohnstonagreed Pendulum00:36
cjohnstonim already drinking tonight00:36
cjohnstonPendulum: _marx_ how do yall want to do the intro... do you want to get to type a part?00:36
cjohnstonor do you want me to just tell you that you are typing a part?00:37
cjohnstonor?00:37
_marx_in -classroom00:37
cjohnstonyes00:37
cjohnstonat 120000:37
_marx_sinbot google coffee00:37
Pendulumhowever other people want to do it is fine, so if you want me to type a part, tell me :P00:37
_marx_yeah00:38
Pendulumoh, shoot, I hope I have milk for tea tomorrow!00:38
_marx_i can type a bit or not00:38
Pendulum(I don't drink coffee)00:38
_marx_alarm is set for 5:3000:38
_marx_body clock is _not trained00:39
Pendulum5:30 is my normal awake time00:39
_marx_used to be mine00:39
PendulumI may be decadent and reset it for 6 for tomorrow ;)00:39
cjohnstoni keep going back and forth for what time i want to get up00:40
* cjohnston hopes pleia2 isnt gone for the night00:40
_marx_one thing i've learned from job interviews is to not be afraid to say "i don't know"00:43
Pendulumcjohnston: see, I told you we'd be drinking and having a party tonight ;)00:51
cjohnstonya cause im not in school00:51
_marx_cjohnston: how many hours of school, credit hours i mean00:53
cjohnston000:54
cjohnstoni dropped out00:54
Pendulumcjohnston: aww :(00:54
_marx_oh! okay00:54
cjohnstonim not the only one00:54
cjohnstonthere are already a couple others who have00:55
_marx_i've found even a 3 credit hour course one night a week difficult to do while working00:55
Pendulum*nods*00:56
Pendulumtbh, I suspect that's not uncommon in the program you're in00:56
Pendulumand better to get out early than 6 months in00:56
cjohnstonyup00:56
cjohnstonthe class starts with 60... about 20-25 finish it00:56
_marx_serious attrition rate00:57
cjohnstonuh huh00:57
_marx_i'd like to find some reasonably priced lpi course/test packages00:59
cjohnstonme too _marx_00:59
_marx_the test is not too bad, but i'd pay for some good guaranteed training01:00
cjohnston2k01:00
cjohnstonlol01:00
_marx_more than that for redhat01:01
cjohnstonouch01:01
cjohnstoni really would like to do it01:01
cjohnstonbut without some help, i cant support the 2k cost...01:01
cjohnstonor cant justify it01:01
_marx_me either01:01
_marx_the redhat online / virtual training /w/test I had a year ago was very good01:02
_marx_good teacher, good environment: I didn't pay for it ;)01:03
cjohnstonthats always a good thing01:04
_marx_dude that paid for it still hasn't provided work, but he has invested so who knows01:06
Pendulumhmm... i should eat something to go with my drink01:09
cjohnstonnah01:09
_marx_pizza is  on the way01:09
Pendulumi think it will be the 2nd half of what I ordered last night (I'm not safe to cook so I depend on delivery and microwavable food, sadly :( )01:10
_marx_cjohnston: can you cook?01:12
cjohnstonthats what they tell me01:13
* _marx_ can do prep01:13
PendulumI could theoretically cook if someone was there to supervise and lift things... I used to be able to cook :(01:13
cjohnston:-(01:13
_marx_oh :-(01:13
* _marx_ was going into smart aleck mode01:14
PendulumI stopped cooking after the 2nd instance in a month of my leaving the (gas) oven on overnight despite having checked repeatedly that it was off and my brain somehow registering that it was when it wasn't01:14
cjohnston:-(01:14
_marx_hum, i've done that w/an electric oven01:15
Pendulum_marx_: you don't have a condition that causes mental and physical fatigue to extreme levels, though. I figured it was a sign.01:18
_marx_right Pendulum mine is just an old brain01:20
Pendulumhah :P01:22
* _marx_ slides Pendulum a slice of pizza01:22
Pendulumta :)01:23
Pendulumalthough I'm not eating badly01:23
Pendulum(leftovers from last night are turkey and stuffing and mash)01:23
Pendulumjust not what I wanted to have for dinner01:23
_marx_what's mash? oh taters mashed up ;) sounds good01:27
Pendulummash = mashed potatoes :)01:28
_marx_real southern speak it's like "mashd'taters" all one word01:28
Pendulumheh01:29
_marx_no "p" sound at all01:29
cjohnstondo be do02:15
cjohnstonPendulum: you in bed yet?02:16
Pendulumno02:17
Pendulumstill p02:17
Pendulum*up02:17
cjohnstonyou said you were gonna go to bed at 9!02:17
* _marx_ out02:19
Pendulumi failed02:21
cjohnstonlol02:22
cjohnstong'nite _marx_02:22
cjohnstonPendulum: i cant find nagendra's intro02:22
cjohnstonnm02:23
cjohnstongot it02:23
nigel_nbpleia2, ping02:27
pleia2nigel_nb: hey02:27
nigel_nbI didn't quite understand the talk of logo attribution02:28
pleia2you can license images02:28
pleia2akgraner was asking if you required attribution - which means people have to say the image was made by you and link to the license each time they use your image02:29
pleia2(doctormo will come beat me up soon for this crude description)02:29
nigel_nboh I didn't02:29
pleia2ok :)02:30
pleia2so it's just "creative commons" then02:30
nigel_nbwhich is why I made it into CC-SA02:30
pleia2oh good02:30
nigel_nbI think I did02:30
nigel_nbanyway, if it went into ubuntu wiki, its automatically GPL'd02:30
pleia2no, gpl requires you to ship a copy of the license with each thing02:31
nigel_nbugh!02:31
pleia2I don't know that the wiki has a formal license at this point, I know it's something on the community council agenda02:31
nigel_nbAttribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons falls under GPL?02:31
pleia2no02:31
pleia2gpl is something different02:31
pleia2gpl is *more* restrictive02:31
pleia2since it's viral02:32
nigel_nbI know, one of the CC license is GPL friendly, I forget which02:32
nigel_nbtechnically, the license ships with the logo.  The logo's original source is my flickr page02:32
nigel_nbwhich has a license02:32
cjohnstonpleia2: how does this look for the topic: /topic Ubuntu Classroom || Ubuntu User Days | Session: Switching to Ubuntu & Installation ~~ Instructor: Nagendra || User Days Survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY02:33
pleia2s/~~ Instructor:/presented by02:34
cjohnstonokie02:34
cjohnstonpleia2: do we want to let the instructors introduce themselves, or do we wnat to introduce them?02:37
cjohnstonPendulum: you can chime in too02:37
pleia2I think we should do it02:37
cjohnstonok..02:37
pleia2speaking of intros, who is doing the one for the day? :)02:37
cjohnstonim editing the intros they submited to make it third person02:37
cjohnstoni havent gotten that far yet02:38
cjohnstonlol02:38
pleia2ok02:38
cjohnstonwhen you get a chance can you look at my edits?02:38
cjohnston;-)02:38
pleia2no, just finished replacing my firewall server02:38
pleia2doing some fixes on my network now, I'll have a look soon :)02:38
cjohnstonissues at the house?02:38
* cjohnston doesnt have a firewall server :-(02:38
* cjohnston is also happy that starcraftman submitted a third person intro!02:39
cjohnstonhehe02:39
pleia2nah, I just have too many servers, need to consolidate them for the move02:39
pleia2having an sparc ultra10 was cool and fun, but now it's just silly to have the add'l machine02:39
cjohnstonsend it to me02:39
pleia2hehe02:39
pleia2I am keeping it actually, just had to retire it from daily use02:40
cjohnstonlol02:40
nigel_nbpleia2, few years down the line you can start a museum02:40
* starcraftman waves hello!02:40
starcraftmancjohnston: I try to be thoughtful :)02:41
pleia2I forgot something with this migration, my voip phone isn't working02:41
cjohnstoni dont have your voip number, so it doesnt matter to me :-P02:41
cjohnstonjk02:41
nigel_nbdead? or something you did wrong?02:41
starcraftmancjohnston: I wanna make sure I got this right, I'm at 1500 UTC.... that's 1000 EST right?02:41
* starcraftman hates timezones.02:41
pleia2it's my work phone02:42
cjohnstonya02:42
cjohnstonbut you can get up with me if you like02:42
pleia2I'll nag my boss to help debug on monday (I warned him I was doing this this weekend)02:42
cjohnstonstarcraftman: ^^02:42
starcraftmancjohnston: hehe, 0700 ain't that bad. I use to wake up at 5:30 for years.02:43
* nigel_nb remembers that his session is still not ready02:43
cjohnstonuh oh nigel_nb02:43
nigel_nbpleia2, akgraner_ ultimately posted without logo :P02:44
cjohnstonstarcraftman: with my schdule, one day im up at 530, the next day 7, then the third day i can sleep in02:44
cjohnstonso i cant get used to it02:44
starcraftmanoh and nigel_nb I wanted to run a section of my talk by ya, I'm talking bout lp just a lil bit, I'm sure you'll cover it more.02:44
nigel_nbstarcraftman, answers and bugs, I cover in detail02:44
nigel_nbstarcraftman, you were devoting 5 mins each so i thought it would be basic..02:45
starcraftmannigel_nb: aye, just kinda mention them in passing as last stop for getting help. Good that your covering it, I not largest LP user. I'll be sitting in on some sessions like yours.02:46
nigel_nbstarcraftman, hehe.. best part of bug reporting.  we suggest people not to use the web interface to actually do the first part02:47
nigel_nbpleia2, I dont think setting r+ is a good idea02:48
nigel_nba lot of people will be testing logging in all, esp frm lernid02:48
Pendulumnigel_nb: she was just doing it overnight02:48
pleia2they can still join02:48
pleia2nhandler is turning it off in a few hours02:49
nhandlernigel_nb: +r wasn't set. +R was set02:49
* nigel_nb isn't well educated on channel flags02:49
nigel_nbnhandler, what's the diff b/w r+ and R+?02:49
nhandlernigel_nb: +R prevents unidentified people from talking. They can still join02:49
nigel_nband the small r?02:50
nhandlernigel_nb: You might like http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml02:50
nhandlernigel_nb: +r prevents unidentified people from joining the channel02:50
nigel_nboooh02:50
Pendulumpleia2: and we're setting +m for -classroom after the first session anyway, right?02:52
pleia2Pendulum: yeah02:52
nhandlerPendulum: I would think that would depend on what the session leader would want02:52
cjohnstonhey DiegoTc02:52
DiegoTchi cjohnston02:53
pleia2nhandler: the instructor can ask us to remove the mode if they want, but by default we're keeping the channel +m for the day02:53
pleia2just like we did for UOW02:53
DiegoTccjohnston, thanks for cheers in the board meeting :D02:54
cjohnston;-)02:54
cjohnstonof course02:54
pleia2cjohnston: is there a diff as to what you added?02:56
pleia2I don't remember what I wrote :)02:56
cjohnstonlol02:56
cjohnstonyours is still at the same page02:56
cjohnstonhehe02:56
cjohnstonill post it over there so you have a diff02:57
starcraftmannoob question: what's +m do?02:57
pleia2yeah, I'm sure whatever you put in was fine02:57
cjohnstonmute02:57
pleia2what are we supposed to say when we introduce ourselves?02:57
starcraftmanah, I c.02:57
nhandlerstarcraftman: It moderates the channel so only voiced users and ops can talk02:57
* starcraftman is still an IRC noob after all this time.02:57
starcraftmanhehe]02:57
pleia2hehe02:58
nigel_nbstarcraftman, well, me too!02:58
pleia2hi, I'm pleia2, I like cats02:58
nigel_nbpleia2, and star wars02:58
pleia2oh yes, I do quite like star wars02:58
pleia2and ubuntu!02:58
pleia2ok, I'll just say I'm a UCLP person02:59
cjohnstonpleia2: i changed the page you made.. so now there should be a diff for you02:59
nigel_nbnhandler, sweet, my loco didnt have topic protection, so I put in the User Days announcement too!02:59
nhandler:)02:59
pleia2cjohnston: thanks :)02:59
nigel_nbspamming away02:59
cjohnstonlol nigel_nb03:00
nigel_nbcjohnston, I'm wondering whether to do an hourly countdown on identi.ca03:00
pleia2cjohnston: looks good!03:01
cjohnstonlol nigel_nb03:01
nhandlernigel_nb: You could do that in cron ;)03:01
nigel_nbnhandler, i shouldn't get kicked03:02
nigel_nbnhandler, I can? in cron? post to identi.ca from command-line?03:02
nigel_nbcjohnston, okay, UBT topic changed too ;)03:03
nhandlernigel_nb: /usr/bin/curl -u YOURNAME:YOURPASSWORD -d status="YOUR MESSAGE" http://identi.ca/api/statuses/update.xml03:04
* nigel_nb tries it out03:04
* starcraftman is glad he's an IRC noob with nigel_nb03:06
starcraftman:)03:06
nigel_nb:)03:06
starcraftmanhehe, belated, supporting in beginners.03:06
nigel_nbthis command line thingy is fun!03:06
cjohnstoni think i have the intros ready03:11
pleia2\o/03:11
cjohnstonnot our intros03:11
cjohnstonlo03:11
cjohnstonlol03:11
* DiegoTc wants to have the intros ready for the USD in spanish :(03:15
DiegoTci have to wake up early tomorrow03:15
nigel_nbcjohnston, you have mine right?03:15
cjohnstonme too03:15
cjohnstonlol03:15
cjohnstonnigel_nb: ya i think so03:15
cjohnstonok.. i got out intro sorted out for the 1200 slot...03:18
cjohnston:-)03:18
* cjohnston wanted to introduce ya'll and since noone had a preference I decided that :-P lol03:18
pleia2great job with this cjohnston :)03:20
cjohnstonty03:20
cjohnstonim trying to think of any last minute things that need to be done03:21
pleia2sleep?03:21
pleia2:)03:21
cjohnstoni know as soon as i go lay down ill remember something and then have to get up to come fix it so i can sleep03:21
pleia2hehe03:21
cjohnstoni slept so bad wednesday night debating what to do with school03:22
cjohnstonive slept like a baby since then03:22
cjohnstonlol03:22
nigel_nbcjohnston, quit school?03:23
cjohnstonuh huh03:23
cjohnstoni spoke with someone today.. she said most people failed the two quizzes yesterday03:24
nigel_nbbetter now that after devoting months and crashing03:24
cjohnstonthats why i did it03:24
Pendulumokay, i'm going to bed for real. catch y'all in a few hours.03:26
pleia2night pen :)03:26
cjohnstonG'nite Pendulum03:27
cjohnstonone last blog for planet03:28
cjohnstonI think I'm out.. goodnight03:29
pleia2night cjohnston :)03:30
nigel_nbokay, I'll off soon too03:30
pleia2later nigel_nb :)03:30
nigel_nbdont sleep in anyone03:30
pleia2bah, ya'll will cover for me03:30
nigel_nbpleia2, I suggest you stop tinkering with the hardware, or you'll get up late ;)03:30
pleia2well I have to at least clean up :) this place is a mess of dust and wires nwo03:31
pleia2now03:31
nigel_nbpleia2, I'm off, good night.03:34
pleia2night :)03:34
DiegoTcpleia2, are you bussy right now?03:50
pleia2DiegoTc: no, what's up?03:53
* pleia2 should go to bed soon though03:56
DiegoTcpleia2, thanks03:57
DiegoTci ask to nhandler in beginners channel03:57
DiegoTcit is for adding my feedback to the planet03:57
pleia2having trouble?03:58
pleia2oh, ssh key03:58
DiegoTcnop03:58
DiegoTcadding the feedback03:59
DiegoTcthe last step03:59
pleia2I don't understand :\04:00
DiegoTcpleia2,  to this step (Once you've done that, add a stanza like the following to the end of the config.ini file)04:01
pleia2ok04:01
pleia2what's the trouble?04:01
pleia2trying to figure out what your feed url is?04:02
nigel_nbDiegoTc, where exactly are you stuck?04:03
pleia2nigel_nb: hey, I thought you left :)04:03
nigel_nbpleia2, naah, applying for volunteer on freenode ;)04:03
pleia2hehe04:04
nigel_nbpleia2, I thought u were cleaning up?04:04
pleia2done now, getting ready for bed :)04:04
DiegoTcnigel_nb, well don't know actually04:06
DiegoTci finish to add my name in the config.ini file:04:06
nigel_nbyou pulled the branch?04:06
DiegoTcand make this $ bzr diff04:06
DiegoTc$ bzr commit -m "Added yourusername to Planet Ubuntu"04:06
nigel_nbdid u add name, feed, and all?04:07
DiegoTcso i think i have to wait04:07
nigel_nbohh you pushed the diff?04:07
pleia2the planet only updates a few times an hour04:07
DiegoTcwell the feed nhandler told me to add this one http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?cat=72&feed=atom04:07
DiegoTcbut i am wondering04:07
DiegoTcwhat i have to do04:07
pleia2it updated 20 minutes ago04:08
DiegoTcso the post i wrote appears on the planet04:08
pleia2did you do this more than 20 minutes ago?04:08
DiegoTcnop04:08
DiegoTcsome 3 minutes ago04:08
pleia2oh, you just have to wait :)04:08
pleia2it only updates each time the cron job runs on the planet itself04:09
DiegoTcokay04:09
pleia2I think it runs every half hour or so04:09
DiegoTcbut lets said if i want to post this post on the planet http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?p=36004:09
nigel_nbDiegoTc, delete post and psot again ;)04:10
pleia2that's in category 72, so it should be fine04:10
DiegoTci only have to choose the "ubuntu-planet" category  si it will work04:11
DiegoTcpleia2, how do you know the category?04:11
pleia2DiegoTc: you gave the link above :)04:11
pleia2http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?cat=72&feed=atom <--- cat 7204:11
pleia2which is ubuntu-planet04:12
pleia2on your blog04:12
pleia2I need to go sleepy04:12
pleia2good night folks :)04:12
DiegoTchh04:12
DiegoTcoh04:12
DiegoTcthanks04:12
DiegoTcGood Night04:12
nigel_nbpleia2, night04:12
duanedesigncongratulations DiegoTc on becoming an Ubuntu Member04:17
mhall119cjohnston, still awake?04:37
nigel_nbI doubht mhall119, looking for somethin?04:38
mhall119was going to get his input on my outline04:38
nigel_nbeveryone's asleep to be up early for the user day04:38
mhall119yeah, me too, I'm about to head to bed actually04:39
mhall119was prepping food for a party tomorrow04:39
mhall119There's going to be a couple dozen people at my house04:39
mhall119while I'm doing my class04:39
nigel_nbwow!04:40
mhall119yeah, it's gonna be fun04:40
mhall119they're all Florida LoCo guys/gals/kids, so it'll be a good time04:41
mhall119we're gonna project #ubuntu-classroom somewhere we can all watch04:41
nigel_nbyou guys are awesome! why not get everyone online too?04:42
mhall119I'm sure they will be04:43
mhall119but they'll also be working04:43
mhall119installing Ubuntu on about 50 computes04:43
mhall119okay, it's pushing on midnight, I can still get 5 hours of sleep, see you tomorrow nigel_nb04:44
nigel_nbwow! wow! wow!04:44
nigel_nbcya04:44
DiegoTcduanedesign, thanks04:49
duanedesignDiegoTc: blog looks good too. Did you get it added to ubuntu Planet?04:49
DiegoTcduanedesign, my name appers on the feed04:50
DiegoTcduanedesign,  but no the post04:52
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nigel_nbAlanBell, ping09:53
cjohnstonuggh10:37
nigel_nbwhat?10:38
nigel_nbcjohnston, morning... awake yet?10:39
cjohnstonjust got up10:39
nigel_nbcjohnston, I didn't sleep :(10:40
cjohnston:-(10:41
cjohnstonWhat time is it?10:41
nigel_nbcjohnston, we need to tell people to ignore join parts and to ignore ctcp versions10:41
nigel_nbits10:41 UTC10:41
cjohnstonThat's on the user days page10:41
cjohnstonyou10:41
cjohnstonyoour10:41
cjohnstonyour10:41
cjohnstonuggh.... i just fired up one of my machines and its making a horrid noise10:42
nigel_nbits 5 am?10:42
cjohnston54210:43
cjohnstonWhere you are10:43
cjohnston?10:43
cjohnstoncoffee is brewing10:43
_marx_same here10:43
nigel_nbnaah, 4:15 for me10:43
nigel_nbpm though10:43
cjohnstonmornin mark10:44
nigel_nbcjohnston, I vote that we mention the ignore command in the beginning10:49
cjohnstonok10:53
cjohnstonnigel_nb _marx_ have you two seen the introduction we are giving?10:59
cjohnstonand your parts of it?10:59
nigel_nbum, I have to introduce myself right?10:59
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction10:59
cjohnstonill say your name, and then you introduce yourslef11:00
nigel_nboh cool11:00
Pendulummorning11:02
nigel_nbmorning Pendulum :)11:02
nigel_nbcjohnston, do I need to introduce myself in the beginning?11:03
nigel_nbcjohnston, and dont forget to mention about the spam... DO NOT CLICK11:04
Pendulumactually, we might want to come up with a line about that quickly that can be given at the beginning of each class11:06
nigel_nbtrue11:06
nigel_nbinstructions to ignore in webchat?11:06
* nigel_nb goes to edit wiki11:07
_marx_let's hope we don't see the netsplit craziness11:07
nigel_nbthat would be disastorous indeed11:07
Pendulumsomething like "Unfortunately freenode, the IRC network we use, has been hit hard recently with an influx of java spam. For more information please see http://blog.freenode.net/2010/01/javascript-spam/ . Do not click other links that say they are more information about the spam."11:07
AlanBellnigel_nb: pont11:08
Pendulums/java/javascript11:08
AlanBellnigel_nb: pong11:08
nigel_nbAlanBell, wanted to know about how to set irc client to ignore ctcp msgs during user days11:08
nigel_nbAlanBell, all good, found it :)11:08
AlanBell /window level -CTCP11:09
AlanBellin irssi11:09
nigel_nbI found that big /ignore thingy from UOW11:09
cjohnstonhey Pendulum11:10
cjohnstonugh11:10
cjohnstonboth kids just got up11:10
Pendulumyou can also use /umode +C11:10
Pendulumcjohnston: your kids are early risers11:10
AlanBellPendulum: not sure that works without +m and I couldn't get that to work11:10
cjohnstonnigel_nb: yes.. you will introduce yourself during the intro hour... _marx_ you too.... so you can both use the intro you already wrote, and we can do a more brief intro later11:10
nigel_nbokay11:11
cjohnstonPendulum: yes they do... but they are at school normally before 711:12
nigel_nbcjohnston, we did a mistake, we should have had one slide with the user day logo ;)11:12
nigel_nblol, next time ;(11:12
cjohnstonit pulls up the wiki page11:12
nigel_nbI know, but slides are cooler11:13
cjohnstonare you on lernid?11:13
nigel_nbyes11:13
cjohnstonlol11:13
AlanBellthe ctcp spam is going to be a real pain I think11:13
cjohnstonuggh11:13
nigel_nband we could have used it during our session11:13
nigel_nbAlanBell, I'm afraid of more people clicking it :(11:13
nigel_nband causing more spam and k-lining11:13
AlanBellyes11:13
AlanBellwhen everyone is muted in -classroom will that stop it there?11:14
Pendulumyes11:14
nigel_nbI hope11:14
Pendulumat least it'll stop them from pasting links11:14
cjohnstondont know AlanBell11:14
AlanBellprobably best to do that sooner rather than later11:15
cjohnston?11:15
AlanBellpeople will be arriving soon11:15
cjohnstonthe first hour is interactive11:15
Pendulumpeople are arriving11:15
AlanBellah, ok interactive in -classroom11:15
cjohnstonyes11:16
cjohnstonfor the first hour11:16
cjohnstonafter that it will be muted11:16
nigel_nbcjohnston, Pendulum, _marx_ : http://pastebin.com/m6c3ee53f11:16
* starcraftman waves morning.11:16
nigel_nbits the warning not to click on links11:16
cjohnstonhey bud11:16
cjohnstonk11:17
cjohnstonthanks11:17
starcraftmanmmmm, I want more sleep but it doesn't work putting head on pillow :(11:17
AlanBells/infect/infected/11:17
cjohnstoni was upset when my alarm started going off11:17
cjohnstonuggh... my third system is giving me hastles this mornin11:18
nigel_nbhttp://pastebin.com/m1843ea85 corrected11:18
* _marx_ was already awake when his went off11:18
cjohnstonlol _marx_11:18
cjohnstonthat excited?11:18
_marx_nah wife went to work early11:18
_marx_should'a moved the coffee pot in here11:19
cjohnstonlol11:19
cjohnstonPendulum: _marx_ nigel_nb you all see your part for the intro hour correct?11:19
nigel_nbapparently mhall has a whole lot planned for the day11:19
nigel_nbyes11:20
cjohnstonyes11:20
cjohnstonand he is trying to get me to come down to his house11:20
nigel_nbhehe11:20
cjohnstonI told him id have to be there at 6am11:20
cjohnstonhe changed his mind11:20
nigel_nbhahaaha11:20
_marx_cjohnston: yes11:20
cjohnstonalthough I got them to get a projector and UUD will be projected on a screen11:20
nigel_nbpopey, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-learning/2010-January/000108.html11:21
nigel_nbpopey, announcement ^^11:21
nigel_nbcjohnston, relax.  Lernid is an in-testing software11:22
nigel_nbnhandler, ping11:22
cjohnstonnigel_nb: its supposted to be production for next week tho11:22
_marx_cjohnston: where's the wiki w/bios11:24
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro11:24
_marx_ah the date is what i missed11:25
cjohnstonnot effecient addresses.. but i didnt think about everyone needing access when i did it11:27
cjohnstonlol11:27
cjohnstonoh well11:27
popeycreate a new page and redirect it?11:28
cjohnstonpopey: no making sense today!11:30
* pleia2 waves11:33
AlanBellmajor problem!11:33
_marx_moanin' pleia211:33
Pendulumhiya pleia211:34
AlanBellif someone pastes in a spam link in -classroom all the lernid users will automatically open the link and get k-lined11:34
_marx_ouch11:34
AlanBellplease can we mute -classroom and do the interactive stuff in -chat11:34
AlanBellI am hoping ctcp spam links won't affect lernid11:35
AlanBellbut some of the spam is people joining channels and pasting links11:35
AlanBellcjohnston ^^11:36
pleia2it's going to be +m during the sessions anyway11:36
pleia2but we can't do it until after the intro11:36
pleia2since that11:36
AlanBellapparently the first session is interactive in -classroom11:36
pleia2yes11:36
pleia2we can't really change that now :)11:37
cjohnstonhttp://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY11:37
cjohnstonany last questions to add?11:37
pleia2AlanBell: please don't tell people not to use it :(11:37
pleia2the spam stopped like 40 minutes ago11:37
_marx_cjohnston: anything for folks using lernid11:38
* pleia2 sighs11:38
=== nigel_nb is now known as Guest97501
AlanBellsorry, but the spam has been on and off for days11:38
cjohnstondunno11:39
AlanBellthe user days thing is a tempting target and I really don't want it to start badly11:39
pleia2fine, we'll +m except when we are interactive11:40
=== nigel_nb is now known as Guest36386
pleia2but please stop telling people not to use it11:40
AlanBellI want people to use it11:40
pleia2you just told them not to11:40
pleia2it's confusing11:40
AlanBellwhen not muted11:40
pleia2people are using lernid, they don't know what mute is11:40
pleia2they can't tell when it's being use11:40
pleia2d11:40
AlanBellI think most of the lernid users do know what muted means11:41
AlanBellI really think it would be best to mute the channel and have the interactive session in -classroom-chat11:42
Pendulumooh, just thought of something should we change the QUESTION: format to QUESTION, ?11:42
Pendulumsince it's now been discovered that : breaks lernid (sorta)11:42
pleia2Pendulum: yeah, that seems reasonable11:42
nigelbabuplease DO NOT use : after nick completion, it causes error in lernid11:43
pleia2Pendulum, cjohnston updated the intro to be QUESTION w/o the :11:44
_marx_T -1511:45
Pendulumbtw, who is introducing nagendra?11:45
Pendulumeveryone else we can figure out when they show up, but he should be showing up in the midding of *our* session so should probably be sorted now ;)11:45
_marx_nigelbabu, testing nick tab completion11:46
nigelbabuah11:46
cjohnstonty pleia211:46
pleia2Pendulum: I guess we just do a basic "this is nagendra with a class about $foo"11:46
pleia2rather than a real intro :\11:46
nigelbabupleia2, then we can do who is nagendra11:47
pleia2hm?11:47
nigelbabulike we say this is foo who is doing a class about foo11:47
nigelbabufoo is blah blah blah11:48
nigelbabuthen hand over11:48
pleia2oh I misread11:48
nigelbabupleia2, wats normal membership for UOW?11:49
pleia2not sure, so many people lurk in -classroom that it's a bit hard to tell11:49
pleia2200ish?11:49
nigelbabuhm, we're getting there11:49
Pendulumpleia2: no, I mean, which one of us is saying that?11:50
pleia2should we update _marx_'s section about lernid to make clear that it's alpha software?11:50
Pendulumwe have an intro for him11:50
pleia2Pendulum: yeah, I misread, sorry about that11:50
nigelbabustarting 10 minutes11:51
nigelbabuoooh i'm getting stage fright11:51
pleia2hehe11:51
nigelbabuI lost power at my house11:51
nigelbaburan out and paying for power and internet now :(11:51
cjohnstonAlanBell: mind if i subscribe you to a lernid bug?11:52
cjohnstonouch nigelbabu11:52
nigelbabupleia2, keep this http://pastebin.com/m413a9c5c.  Its my session11:53
nigelbabuin case I miss11:53
nigelbabuand poke hggdh in ubuntu-bugs, he'll take over ;)11:53
pleia2I was gonna say... I can't do it! ;)11:53
nigelbabu#end disaster management11:53
cjohnstonnigelbabu: is he prepaired to take it over?11:54
cjohnstonand willing?11:54
nigelbabucjohnston, he's going to help with Q and A11:54
cjohnstonwhered AlanBell go11:54
cjohnstonok cool11:54
nigelbabucjohnston, if he's not you can ;)11:54
cjohnstonok11:54
cjohnstonthanks11:54
cjohnstoni have it11:54
cjohnston5 minutes11:54
pleia2-classroom had "Ubuntu Classroom Chat" in the /topic11:55
pleia2dropped the Chat bit :)11:56
cjohnstonim retarded.. whats your point11:56
* pleia2 hugs cjohnston 11:56
Pendulumcjohnston: can you not use the word retard? it's offensive11:56
cjohnstonI'm sorry11:56
AlanBellcjohnston: here11:56
Pendulumcjohnston: apology accepted :)11:56
* Pendulum hugs cjohnston 11:56
nigelbabucjohnston, I'm adding the part about the trouble on network to my thing11:57
nigelbabuand also about ignore11:57
nigelbabucjohnston, where is nagendra ? :(12:00
pleia2:)12:00
pleia2ready?12:00
nigelbabuhe was here some time back12:00
cjohnstondoesnt matter12:00
nigelbabulets move!12:00
cjohnston070012:00
cjohnstongood mornin!12:00
cjohnstonI changed the openweek to userday lol12:01
cjohnstoneveryone has been made ops btw... please help out with a quick ban/kick if there is spam12:02
pleia2we can probably +m after this "I'm from" bit12:02
cjohnstontrue12:03
nigelbabuyes12:03
nigelbabupleia2, we should, no late I'm so and so12:03
Pendulumpleia2: does your intro actually say you like cats, btw?12:04
nigelbabulol12:04
pleia2Pendulum: no, then people think I'm a crazy cat lady :)12:04
cjohnstonif its true why not say it12:04
Pendulumheh12:04
nigelbabuhahaha12:04
_marx_lol!12:04
nigelbabuwe know you are12:04
pleia2what's the link to the freenode webchat?12:04
pleia2lol12:04
nigelbabuwebchat.freenode.net12:04
PendulumI was just trying to figure out if I had to say "Pendulum likes cats (also)" or not :P12:04
pleia2I know that part :) the full link!12:05
nigelbabuhttp://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-classroom%2Cubuntu-classroom-chat12:05
nigelbabupleia2, m+12:05
nigelbabunagendra, welcome12:05
cjohnstonhey nagendra12:06
cjohnstonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro  <-- nigelbabu _marx_ pleia2 Pendulum12:06
AlanBellthanks pleia212:07
cjohnstonmornin mike12:08
pleia2I think I'm going to go take a nap after the intro, there are enough folks here this early to cover, right?12:08
pleia2I will be around later when ya'll get tired :)12:08
Pendulumgo for it12:09
cjohnstonlol12:09
cjohnstoni want a nap12:09
cjohnstonpleia2: your up12:10
mhall119I just woke up and I want one12:10
pleia2ok, I'm done12:11
cjohnstonPendulum: ;-)12:12
PendulumI'm done :)12:13
* _marx_ done12:15
nigelbabuI'm done12:17
nigelbabucjohnston, lets move, I'm done12:18
cjohnstonpleia2: your turn ;-)12:19
cjohnstonno colons!!!!!12:19
nigelbabupleia2, colon!!12:19
cjohnstonlol12:19
pleia2doh, it's in the script :)12:20
cjohnstonpleia2: i just resaved the script removing a colon.. refresh real quick12:20
nigelbabupleia2, modify the question12:20
nigelbabuquestion: bla bla12:20
pleia2Pendulum: you're up :)12:21
cjohnstonthe links are gonna open alot of websites for peopel12:22
cjohnstonlol12:22
pleia2that's a really obnoxious feature12:22
pleia2hehe12:22
cjohnstontry to slow it down a little..12:22
cjohnstonwe are only 22 minutes in12:22
pleia2there is Q&A at the end of our intro12:22
cjohnstonhopefully they have questions12:22
cjohnstonlink fail12:22
cjohnstonpleia2: are you pleia2 on LP?12:23
* Pendulum removed her own colon :P12:23
pleia2"on LP"?12:23
cjohnstonyay!12:23
cjohnstonlaunchpad12:23
cjohnston.net/~??12:23
pleia2of course...12:23
cjohnstonthought so..12:23
Pendulum_marx_: you're up12:23
pleia2can't really be part of ubuntu community if you're not12:24
pleia2or were you asking something more specific?12:24
Pendulumpleia2: he was asing your launchpad address12:24
pleia2oooh12:24
pleia2no12:24
pleia2I'm lyz12:24
cjohnstontwss12:24
cjohnstonpleia2: you have been added to a bug12:25
* _marx_ done12:26
pleia2cjohnston: I am not really interested in lernid...12:26
cjohnstonnigelbabu: your up12:26
pleia2I am on enough bugs that I do care about :)12:26
cjohnstonill remove you then12:26
cjohnstonlol12:26
cjohnston;-)12:26
pleia2thanks12:26
Pendulumdoes lernid have a channel? I'm having a problem, but I think it's unique to me12:26
cjohnstonmaybe i cant remove you pleia2 ... sorry12:27
pleia2link?12:27
cjohnstonhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/51153512:27
pleia2thanks :)12:28
pleia2Pendulum: I think that question was answered in -chat12:30
Pendulumwas it?12:30
Pendulumstill should probably be a public question12:30
pleia2ok :)12:31
Pendulumlike the ones about sound and about whether lernid is required12:31
nigelbabuI'll answer them12:31
pleia2we are falling behind on questions, anyone want to answer the latest one in -classroom please?12:32
cjohnstoni dont know the answer12:33
cjohnstonlol12:33
Pendulumneither do I12:33
pleia2nigelbabu?12:33
pleia2nigelbabu: we want to answer the questions we post in -classroom first :)12:33
pleia2I'll post them, you can answer?12:34
nigelbabui can try12:34
pleia2can you answer the /unignore one ?12:34
cjohnstonim searching to see what i can find12:34
pleia2I'll do it...12:34
nigelbabuI dont know the unignore one12:35
pleia2someone posted the answer in -chat12:35
cjohnstongreat12:35
nigelbabupleia2, you want me to answer that one?12:36
nigelbabuthanks ;)12:36
pleia2those darn colons :)12:40
cjohnstonlol12:40
pleia2we should probably keep the irc questions in -chat12:40
pleia2since they are being answered ok there12:40
Pendulumokay, sorry12:41
pleia2no problem12:41
pleia2there are just so many of them, by the time we paste some helpful attendee is already answering :)12:41
Pendulumhmm... next time maybe we should see about getting the "using IRC" session earlier in the day?12:42
pleia2yeah, it's kinda funny at the end12:43
nigelbabuhehe12:43
pleia2"now that you used it all day, here is how to use it!" oops :)12:43
nigelbabupleia2, how often?12:44
cjohnstonthe using IRC session isnt on using the client.. but using the resource that is IRC i believe12:45
cjohnstoni.e. how to get help in IRC...12:45
nigelbabucjohnston, yes, you're right12:45
pleia2looks to be both12:45
pleia2based on the outline12:46
cjohnstondunno12:46
nagendra_if anyone have any questions about ubuntu installation please do let me know12:46
nigelbabunagendra_, welcome.  right now we're getting basic user days questions answered12:48
Pendulumdid we ever decide who is introducing nagendra_ ?12:48
cjohnstonno.. i figured wed just pick as we go12:49
nigelbabuhow do I voice a person?12:49
nigelbabuwell.. just in case12:49
cjohnstonnigelbabu: ill take care of that12:49
cjohnstonjust easier12:49
cjohnston;-)12:49
nigelbabucjohnston, just asking.. in case ;)12:50
cjohnstoni had to learn12:50
cjohnstonlol12:50
cjohnstonits a msg to chanserv12:50
nigelbabuvoice right?12:51
nigelbabuand devoice?12:51
pleia2/mode -v nickname12:51
pleia2/mode +v nickname12:51
pleia2or /msg chanserv voice #channel nickname12:52
pleia2but +v seems easier for me :)12:52
cjohnstoni didnt know that one pleia212:52
cjohnstoncool12:52
nigelbabuv+ depends on client I think12:52
pleia2on some clients you need to include the channel name12:52
nigelbabushall I say thats about it for the first session?12:52
pleia2but it's just a channel mode12:52
cjohnstonnagendra1: are you having internet issues today?12:54
starcraftmanquesiton: nigel said : mess with lernid, links still fine eh? I'm just editting my prewritten speech.12:54
nigelbabustarcraftman, the links are why : mess with lernid12:54
pleia2nigelbabu: hey, we still have 6 minutes! :)12:54
pleia2quick, link to survey?12:54
starcraftmannigelbabu: so... I can't post links?12:55
pleia2cjohnston: wait! we need to answer the survey question first :)12:55
cjohnstonit was12:55
cjohnstonsorry12:55
nigelbabuhttp://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY12:55
nagendra1no their is no issues with my internet connection12:56
nigelbabustarcraftman, becuse links work! everything else has problems ;)12:56
cjohnstonnagendra1: good..12:56
nigelbabunagendra1, would you prefer pasting questions yourself or do you want us to do it for you?12:56
starcraftmannigelbabu: right ok, good. I remove extra colons then.12:56
cjohnstonnagendra1: which nick are you using for teaching?12:56
nigelbabufor whoever is pating questions, please remove the colon12:57
* pleia2 nods12:58
cjohnstonnagendra1: ??12:58
nagendra1           Difference between windows and Linux (Ubuntu)12:58
nagendra1 Why Windows?12:58
nagendra1 Why Ubuntu?12:58
nagendra1 Who need Ubuntu and who need Windows12:58
nagendra1 Different version of Ubuntu and Linux12:58
nagendra1 Using Ubuntu live media12:58
nagendra1 Ubuntu Installation12:58
cjohnstonumm12:58
pleia2nigelbabu: did we intentionally move it to the end?12:58
nigelbabupleia2, not really, but it got bumped down12:58
nigelbabu+scheduling12:59
nigelbabunhandler, is busy during these hours12:59
Pendulumnagendra1: you need to joing #ubuntu-classroom12:59
cjohnstonya.. peoples avail12:59
Pendulumin about a minute when your session starts ( and after someone introduces you) that's where your session goes12:59
cjohnstonnagendra1: hello?12:59
nagendra1yep12:59
nagendra1I am in the #ubuntu-classroom13:00
cjohnstonwhich nick are you using?13:00
Pendulumokay who is introducing? (since it's now time)13:00
cjohnstoni dont see nagendra113:00
cjohnstonPendulum: you can13:00
pleia2ok, I just voiced both :)13:01
nigelbabuhehe13:01
Pendulumnagendra1: you're up13:04
starcraftmancjohnston: q: can you only make an openID acocunt now for forums sign in?13:04
cjohnstonhuh?13:05
nigelbabustarcraftman, what/13:05
Pendulumnagendra1: where are you? you need to start your session13:05
Pendulumoops, nevermind :)13:05
starcraftmannigelbabu: cjohnstonI dunno, I just went to forums, all I see when not logged in  is "sign in with launchpad" I don't see just sign up forums.13:06
starcraftmanAm I blind?13:06
starcraftman><13:06
nigelbabustarcraftman, you can't sign up for an account with openID, you need to create an ID and associate your open ID with it13:07
cjohnstoni see the user/pass login13:07
nigelbabuand then not use your username and pass but use your open ID to login13:07
cjohnstonPendulum: you got this one for a few minutes?13:08
starcraftmannigelbabu: oh damn, stupid me, register icon at left! Har.13:08
* starcraftman feels dumb, dons dunce cap.13:08
cjohnstonis it bad that i have 4 irc's open?13:08
PendulumI can :)13:08
cjohnstonty13:08
cjohnstonill be back in a few..13:09
_marx_cjohnston, only 4!13:12
pleia2oops, colon13:14
nigelbabu!!!!13:15
Pendulumhonestly, if that's the biggest problem, I suspect lernid can survive ;)13:15
nigelbabuPendulum, its not a big problem13:16
Pendulumthat's my point13:16
pleia2I think we want to split this session into 2 hours next time13:16
nigelbabuits just something that jono overlooked to filter out13:16
nigelbabupleia2, I figured out my lernid trouble13:17
pleia2intro to ubuntu should be separate from installation13:17
nigelbabuyou seem to have installed a lot of extra packages, else it wouldn't have worked for you.  default xubuntu does not have one dependency13:17
nigelbabupleia2, there is a package called telepathy-idle (I didnt have it)13:19
PendulumI think we maybe want to start asking people to hold questions until the end or something13:19
pleia2we'll have to ask the instructor what they prefer13:20
Pendulumyeah13:20
pleia2he's asking for questions :)13:20
Pendulumyeah, but none of those questions were relevent to what he was asking for questions about13:20
pleia2well, he was talking about installation13:20
nigelbabuPendulum, just a heads up, there is a planned update to lernid to get QUESTION: blabla to get automatically pasted13:21
Pendulumcool13:21
nigelbabusome kind of session leader lernid ;)13:21
pleia2hopefully in a controlled way?13:21
cjohnstongot breakfast.. im good to go13:21
cjohnstoncall !question, lernid pastes one question, Answer: would answer the question and paste the next would be cool13:22
pleia2I mean, so bad ones can be weeded out13:22
cjohnstono13:22
cjohnstonthat too13:22
nigelbabunot planned, some feature like this will be implimented, but jono knows details13:23
pleia2cool13:23
starcraftmanyay, done editting my speech, I hope c/ping the thing gets me more time in my session, getting help is a big topic ><13:23
cjohnstonstarcraftman: remove all the colons :-P13:25
starcraftmancjohnston: darn the colons I say!!!13:25
starcraftmanstraight to Robot Hell!13:25
cjohnstonlol13:25
starcraftmancjohnston: everytime I post a link it automatically redirects the lernid folks eh?13:29
_marx_anyone know how to make konversation detach a channel13:29
starcraftmaneven without the link tag.13:29
_marx_so there's two windows open13:29
cjohnstonyes starcraftman13:29
popeycjohnston: dont suppose you have any backup people for the user day?13:29
starcraftmancjohnston: rgr, just checking.13:29
cjohnstonpopey: you backing out?13:29
starcraftmanhi popey!13:30
nigelbabupopey, bad headache?13:30
popeyI've got a monster headache13:30
nigelbabupopey, have the session written out?13:30
popeyI need to get away from the screen13:30
popeyno nigelbabu13:30
pleia2eek13:30
cjohnstonduanedesign: ??13:30
nigelbabuoh oh13:30
popeyi might be okay in a few hours, but I dont know13:30
duanedesignhello, just got in13:30
nigelbabuif you had a session written out, we could manage13:30
duanedesign:)13:30
popeyjust wanted to see if you had any backups13:30
cjohnstonpartitioning 101 right popey ?13:31
pleia2duanedesign: up for doing a partitioning 101 session today? :)13:31
popeyyeah13:31
nigelbabuduanedesign, you'll have to write it too!13:31
Pendulumpopey: hope you feel better *hugs*13:31
duanedesignwhat time is it13:31
pleia220 UTC13:31
popey7 hours13:31
duanedesignoh sure13:31
popey6.513:31
pleia2\o/13:31
duanedesignno problem at all13:31
* popey hugs duanedesign 13:31
popeysorry guys/gals13:31
starcraftmanduanedesign: good guy, and hope ya feel better popey13:32
cjohnstonno problem popey.. health always comes first13:32
popeyi never ever get these, but today I do13:32
duanedesignpopey: hope you feel better13:32
_marx_hope you get to feeling better popey13:32
popeythanks13:32
popeyoffline..13:32
starcraftmanduanedesign: hmmm, popey doesn't seem to have posted an outline. Well no matter, Don't mind improvising a bit? Just don't forget talking bout /home.13:34
_marx_i saw size of swap questions just now too13:35
duanedesignstarcraftman: thanks for checking. I got a few hours to pull something together. :)13:35
nigelbabu<flame alert>13:35
starcraftmanduanedesign: no worries. Just run down the basics, what's a partition, logical/ext/primary, filesystem types, swap (please tell em not to use that silly 2*RAM rule), and then gparted basics and /home. That should cover. Heh, almost sounds like I should do it.... I <3 partitions.13:37
nigelbabustarcraftman, wanna switch?13:40
nigelbabu;)13:40
starcraftmannigelbabu: heh, naw, I like my support topic too, got it all written out. That'd make it too easy for duanedesign methinks!13:41
nigelbabuhaha!13:41
nigelbabuI thought so ;)13:41
starcraftmanduanedesign: if you need any help though I'm about, I'll prolly be avail in the slot for answer questions in chat at least.13:43
duanedesignthanks starcraftman13:44
starcraftmanduanedesign: np13:44
nigelbabustarcraftman, duanedesign : we can voice both of you13:45
nigelbabuso starcraftman can take questions13:45
cjohnstonnagendra1: 14 minutes left13:46
duanedesignill be right back. had to add some extra aliases to handle the increase in windows13:46
starcraftmannigelbabu: ah sure, up to duane it's his session.13:46
starcraftmannigelbabu: where'd marx go? Isn't he next?13:49
* _marx_ here13:49
cjohnstonAnyone with UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro open please refresh!13:50
cjohnstonnagendra1: 10 minutes left13:50
nigelbabuwhose got lernid, a doubt13:50
nigelbabuis the ending time for schedules a bit off?13:51
cjohnstonI have lernid13:51
cjohnston?13:51
cjohnstonit just gave a 10 minute warning13:51
starcraftman_marx_: oh silly me, was looking at m section. Hi there.13:51
_marx_hi starcraftman13:51
nigelbabucjohnston, check schedule, what is the end time?13:52
nigelbabufirst few sessions13:52
cjohnston9, 10, 11, 1213:53
cjohnston_marx_: fwiw, im changing your intro a little since you already used it once13:53
_marx_k cjohnston13:53
_marx_i left out the carpenter bit first time13:53
cjohnstonnow you tell me that13:54
cjohnston:-P13:54
pleia2hehe13:54
_marx_sorry13:54
cjohnstonpleia2: should we announce 5 minutes left in -classroom?13:54
pleia2yeah13:54
cjohnstonuggh... /me is tired of the wiki13:54
_marx_cjohnston, shall i change the topic?13:55
cjohnston_marx_: not yet13:56
cjohnstonAnyone with UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro open please refresh!13:56
_marx_yeah when it's time i meant13:56
cjohnstonif you want..13:56
cjohnstonill do marks session13:56
_marx_intro?13:57
cjohnstonpleia2: go find your beer at 913:57
cjohnston;-)13:57
nigelbabuguys I'm going away for some time13:57
nigelbabudinner and all13:57
cjohnstonk nigelbabu see you when you get back!13:57
nigelbabucjohnston, hope you handle things well13:57
starcraftmanlater nigelbabu13:57
pleia2cjohnston: I think I will :)13:57
PendulumI'm going to grab some breakfast (or at least tea) back in a few minutes13:57
pleia2ok, I'll wait until pen comes back13:58
Pendulumpleia2: you sure? I can wait13:58
Pendulum(I"m just going 10 ft)13:58
pleia2I will be gone for a couple hours :)13:58
Pendulumheh, fair point13:58
nagendra1hay I am done with my session13:59
pleia2thanks nagendra1 :)14:00
nagendra1:)14:00
Pendulumpleia2: I'm back :)14:00
pleia2ok :)14:00
pleia2bbl folks, good luck!14:00
mhall119|workcjohnston: call me if you need me, I'm doing work around the house14:02
cjohnstonthanks mike14:02
cjohnstonPendulum: do you want me to handle the questions or do you want to?14:08
Pendulumeither or14:08
Pendulumwhich would you prefer?14:08
cjohnstonhe cant even say the first word before they start with the questions.. holy crap14:08
Pendulumyep14:08
cjohnstondoesnt matter to me.. if you need to take a break you can14:09
PendulumI'm only c&ping the ones I think are relevent to where he is14:09
cjohnstonya14:09
Pendulum(like so that people knew that shell = terminal in ubuntu)14:09
cjohnstonill let you take it then..14:09
cjohnstonand ill just help control14:09
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starcraftmancjohnston: hmmm, for my session can I just have questions kept to the end? Prefer not to interupt my flow. Maybe ya can answer em in chat if they aren't too major?14:12
cjohnstonstarcraftman: ya.. just ask that at the beginning14:12
starcraftmancjohnston: rgr.14:13
Pendulumcjohnston: when people check in with us we should probably start asking that question so we know before they start talking ;)14:13
nigelbabuum, can someone op me in classroom14:13
cjohnstonya14:14
cjohnstonprofessor.. wow..14:14
cjohnstonlol14:14
nigelbabuthanks :)14:15
nigelbabuI'm out for dinner for a few14:15
cjohnstoncya14:15
starcraftmandarn it, where's ignore command? I forgot to do that...14:16
starcraftmanunignore after undoes right?14:16
cjohnstoni believe so14:17
cjohnstonuggh14:21
cjohnstonpeople are pm'ing now14:21
cjohnstonjamalta: identify!14:21
jamaltacjohnston: hey14:21
Pendulumcjohnston: about?14:21
jamaltacjohnston: sorry, issues with ubuntu one screwed up my config14:21
cjohnstonlol14:21
cjohnstonPendulum: PMing mark14:21
jamaltahe should just ignore them14:22
cjohnstonhe asked people not to PM him14:22
jamaltathat's good too :)14:23
cjohnstonhow goes this mornin jamalta ?14:23
cjohnstonyou going to mikes?14:24
jamaltacjohnston: going well so far14:26
jamaltanot sure yet, haven't asked telepathy14:27
cjohnstonic14:27
jamaltaare you?14:28
cjohnstonno14:29
cjohnstonhe wouldnt let me show up at 614:29
jamaltapm?14:30
jamaltaoh before user days14:30
jamaltaright14:30
nigelbabuokay, I"m back14:42
starcraftmanlo again nigelbabu14:43
Pendulumhi nigelbabu14:45
nigelbabuPendulum, how are you guys holding up?14:45
Pendulumnot too badly14:46
nigelbabu:)14:47
starcraftmanjus my notebook, main machines been lil testy lately, too much tinkering maybe?14:47
cjohnstonlol14:48
nigelbabuare we pasting for max? or is he doing it himself?14:48
* nigelbabu glares at colon usage! 14:48
Pendulumit's been a bit of both14:48
nigelbabuhouston calling starcraft-ntbk, come in starcraft-ntbk ;)14:50
Pendulumstarcraft-ntbk: you want questions held, correct?14:50
cjohnstonstarcraftman: which nick are you using14:52
starcraftmancjohnston: starcraftman, ntbk just my alt14:52
starcraftmanhmmm, maybe I'll log it off unless I crash.14:52
nigelbabuokay, halt self-destruct ;)14:52
nigelbabucjohnston, !!!! colon !!!!14:54
cjohnstonlol14:54
nigelbabuif u cant remove the colon14:54
DiegoTccjohnston, they just ask me a question i don't know the answer14:54
nigelbabujust make sure there is blank space before and after14:54
starcraftmannigelbabu: you'll be happy to know I removed em all except for links :)14:54
nigelbabuDiegoTc, whats the question?14:54
DiegoTcis the ubuntu user day always going to be the 23 of January14:54
nigelbabuDiegoTc, no14:54
DiegoTcokay14:55
nigelbabuDiegoTc, this is the first one.  We will plan another one acrroding feedback from attendees14:55
nigelbabucjohnston, does DiegoTc have survey link? or a survey?14:55
starcraftmannigelbabu: we haz a survey for feedback?14:55
cjohnstondunno nigelbabu14:55
nigelbabucjohnston, is the survey oriented too much to our user days (specific session-wise)?14:56
nigelbabuif not, he can use ours too (though I prefer a new one)14:56
nigelbabustarcraftman, yes14:56
cjohnstonyes... i think it is too english oriented14:56
DiegoTcmay i see it?14:57
nigelbabuDiegoTc, you can create a new survey using survey monkey dot com14:57
cjohnstonDiegoTc: its in the topic in #ubuntu-classroom14:57
nigelbabuDiegoTc, http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY14:57
starcraftmanmonkey!!14:58
starcraftmanI sees. I will be sure to lodge complaints on the lack of food/cake promised air shipped to my home!14:58
DiegoTcworking on it14:59
nigelbabucjohnston, shall I do the intro?14:59
Pendulumnigelbabu: go for it14:59
nigelbabustarcraftman, you're up :)15:01
nigelbabumade a little cosmetic change of "we think he's a bot"15:02
nigelbabustarcraftman, you want questions at the end?15:03
starcraftmanI'm getting there in introduction.15:03
nigelbabustarcraftman, oh great, lernid doesnt take https :(15:04
cjohnstonnigelbabu: it had a - infront of it with no space15:05
nigelbabuah15:05
nigelbabuthat could also cause trouble15:05
Pendulumgood thing for the lernid people that we are testing before UDW ;)15:06
nigelbabudefinitely, now all session leaders can rewrite15:07
nigelbabuhe's good (as expected) :)15:09
nigelbabustarcraftman, good going so far!15:18
DiegoTcnigelbabu, ready http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MSRXBMW15:26
nigelbabuDiegoTc, nicely done (though I dont understand the launguage)15:26
DiegoTchahaha15:26
DiegoTcthe same question but in spansh15:27
DiegoTcspanish15:27
_marx_DiegoTc, how is it going today in spanish15:31
nigelbabuwe've hit 225 users online15:31
DiegoTc_marx_, we have not started yet15:33
nigelbabuDiegoTc, oh, when is your first session?15:33
DiegoTc27 minutes are missing15:33
DiegoTcwe have right now 47 people15:34
nigelbabuah, thats why pablo is spamming identi.ca :P15:34
DiegoTchahah15:34
_marx_tee menos vienteseis15:34
DiegoTcwe have 47 people right now15:34
_marx_hablo un poco15:34
DiegoTcin the first openweek in spanish 60-70people was the record15:35
nigelbabuDiegoTc, then its pretty cool :)15:35
cjohnstonDiegoTc: it looks like there should be a log bot in your channel15:38
DiegoTci am looking for it15:40
DiegoTcto many nicks15:40
nigelbabuDiegoTc, whats your channel?15:40
andresmujicaDiegoTc: ubuntulog15:41
DiegoTcia lo vi15:41
DiegoTci saw it15:41
andresmujicaDiegoTc: log at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/23/%23ubuntu-charlas.html15:41
DiegoTcthanks15:42
jamaltanm,. i'm here!15:46
jamaltaerr15:46
jamalta:)15:46
cjohnstonyour late!15:47
cjohnstonI'm gonna report you!15:47
jamaltapfft15:47
pleia2how are we naming this day? User Days 01?15:47
jamalta:P15:47
jamaltai was :(15:47
* pleia2 is going to start putting up logs15:47
nigelbabupleia2, for the record, I asked that some time back15:47
pleia2nigelbabu: ok, what was the answer?15:48
nigelbabuwe do it by dates :(15:48
nigelbabubut I think number is a good idea ;)15:48
nigelbabua few years down the line15:48
paultagnigelbabu, looks like starcraftman is doing a great job15:49
pleia2what is the date format? US? Int'l?15:49
paultagso much copy paste!15:49
pleia2Jan2010?15:49
nigelbabupaultag, he's doing excellent format15:49
nigelbabupleia2, refer to intro page which cjohnston made15:49
nigelbabu0123201015:49
pleia2ah US timestamp15:49
nigelbabupaultag, everyone likes him ;)15:49
cjohnstonpleia2: I was gonna do em just by date15:49
jamaltaheh, we have quite a few lernid users15:50
pleia2why are we going with US?15:50
cjohnstoncause international conduses me?15:50
nigelbabuwoops we forgot to change the calender15:50
pleia2hehe15:50
pleia2do we actually need the *day*15:50
nigelbabuI vote we go by numbers15:50
pleia2can we just do month? :)15:50
pleia201201015:50
nigelbabujust put 00115:51
pleia2001?15:51
cjohnstonI was gonna just do January 201015:51
nigelbabuwe'll keep incrementing, that way when we get to 25 or 50, we can have a celebration ;)15:51
pleia2I am going with January201015:51
pleia2:)15:51
nigelbabuwokay15:51
_marx_nigelbabu, i like your optimism15:52
nigelbabupaultag, if u understand spanish, do drop by at ubuntu-charlas15:52
nigelbabu_marx_, hehe ;)15:52
paultagnigelbabu, I don't :(15:52
starcraftmanyou guys wanna manage the questions and pasting to classroom?15:52
paultagnigelbabu, I only speak german15:52
nigelbabu_marx_, with such an amazing team, I have no doubts15:52
_marx_it's going well so far15:53
nigelbabupaultag, there was some internet in having a german one.. perhaps you'd be interested15:53
paultagnigelbabu, german user days?15:53
paultagnigelbabu, I am not nearly good enough :)15:53
nigelbabupaultag, yeah.. well, you could mange stuff15:53
nigelbabustarcraftman, see question15:54
paultagI would not mind that15:54
nigelbabupaultag, do a survey and start things with the loco, even 5 sessions would be nice15:54
paultagnigelbabu, whens the next userdays?15:55
nigelbabupaultag, the spanish guys have real interest going15:55
nigelbabunot decided15:55
paultagOK15:55
nigelbabudepends on feedback15:55
paultagI'll do some groundwork when / if you need me15:55
cjohnstonnigelbabu: i think they are all picking on me in -charlas15:55
nigelbabuprobably another 6 months15:55
pleia2cjohnston: if you don't object, I'm just going to edit the included UserDaysTeam/01232010 page to have logs, and include it in UserDays/Logs/January201015:55
DiegoTccjohnston, was the sensation in #ubuntu-charlas15:55
cjohnstonpleia2: go for it15:56
cjohnstonthey enjoyed messing with the english speaker? cause they could make fun of me and i wouldnt know15:56
cjohnstoni translated about the first 10 lines and then gave up cause they were talking too fast15:56
paultaghahahhaa15:56
pleia2cjohnston: do we just want to put the logs under their outline? on like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/CommandLineBasics ?15:57
* _marx_ thinks logs for each class good idea15:58
_marx_users can look for what the want instead of the entire day15:58
cjohnstonpleia2: tbh, i was thinking about linking from UserDays to something like January 2010 (in the logs on the header), and then on that page, have the schedule, with the logs linked from the course title in the schedule15:58
cjohnstonstarcraftman: you finished?15:59
cjohnstonI guess it would more be UserDays/January201015:59
pleia2cjohnston: right, that's what I'm saying :) already created such a page15:59
cjohnstonill intro jamalta15:59
cjohnstonoh fine.. im confused15:59
cjohnstonleave me alone!15:59
cjohnston:-P15:59
pleia2hehe16:00
jamaltahm ok :)16:00
pleia2I'll just make it and you can tell me if you hate it, or change it ;)16:00
* nigelbabu hugs starcraftman 16:01
cjohnstonlol16:01
jamaltado i start? o.o16:01
jamaltaoh wait.. ok16:01
nigelbabustarcraftman, that was really really really awesome!16:01
nigelbabujamalta, we'll alert you ;)16:01
jamaltanigelbabu: ok cool :)16:01
jamaltasorry a bit nervous, lol16:01
nigelbabuapparently the spanish guys hit 69 members, during UOW their record is around 70, pretty cool!16:02
cjohnstonjamalta: its you16:02
_marx_there're at 73 now!16:02
nigelbabuwe're at 22116:03
nigelbabujamalta, um, dont use colon!16:03
DiegoTcwe just began right now16:03
starcraftmannigelbabu: thanks and yes cjohnston now that is done, used every minute :)16:03
nigelbabujamalta, if you do, please leave space before and after16:03
jamaltalike :) or :(16:04
jamaltaOH16:04
paultagcjohnston, why no colons?16:04
cjohnstonpaultag: it is throwing erros in lernid16:04
nigelbabupaultag, lernid errors16:04
paultagAhhhh16:04
paultagthat's awesome. I'm so doing that16:04
cjohnstonplease dont16:04
paultagI'm kidding, man16:04
cjohnstonits annoying as... well... its annoying16:04
paultagsheeeet16:04
nigelbabupaultag, its a pretty nifty app.  you should probably join developing it ;)16:05
jamaltaoh i'm not using lernid, sorry!16:05
paultagnigelbabu, I was going to talk with Jono about it, but then I started doing Fluxbox dev work16:05
nigelbabupaultag, got lots of bugs now.  apparently, lots of people helping already16:05
paultagYeah, I don't want to fsck things up16:05
nigelbabuhehe ;)16:06
nigelbabupleia2, logs posted?16:10
jamaltathis is going kind of fast... lol16:10
pleia2nigelbabu: working on it...16:11
cjohnstonslow it down jamalta ;-)16:12
nigelbabujamalta, take time, relax ;)16:13
nigelbabuum, jamalta, do you mind if we paste the questions? the colon is an issue for quite a lot of people16:14
cjohnstonouch: ouch: ouch: ouch: ouch:16:14
paultagI'm so glad we are not using lernid today16:15
nigelbabupaultag, I wonder how bad developer week would be16:15
_marx_yeah the colon is pita bug16:15
_marx_i've got to step out for about an hour16:15
paultagaahahaha16:15
_marx_should be back by 12:30 EST16:16
paultagyou did it again jamalta!16:16
Pendulum_marx_: see ya :)16:16
pleia2ok, session logs for the first 4 sessions are now up16:18
cjohnstonpleia2: the email that just came for UCLP, I was actually looking at that spot yesterday and thinking about throwing my name in it.. ;-)16:19
cjohnstonsweet.. thanks pleia2 !16:19
pleia2cjohnston: you mean classroom?16:19
cjohnstonehh16:19
cjohnstonthat one too16:19
cjohnstonlol16:19
pleia2hehe16:19
pleia2yeah, I am not sure how to approach his email16:19
pleia2we kinda do that already by cc-ing the -news-team on announcements16:19
cjohnstonya16:19
cjohnstonI know16:19
cjohnstonIs there anything else needed help with?16:20
nigelbabuwhat mail are you talking about?16:20
cjohnstonI was thinking about sending out an email to see if anyone had any classes they were wanting to teach for Feb since nothin is scheduled16:20
pleia2we mostly just need help recruiting16:21
pleia2nigelbabu: latest email to ubuntu-classroom list16:21
nigelbabuclassroom oh, i haven't signed up16:21
nigelbabumeant to, forgot16:21
starcraftmanthere's a list?16:21
pleia2starcraftman: yes :)16:22
* cjohnston has been working on setting up his rules so emails go to the right places... since i get so many16:22
starcraftmanpleia2: do we have lp team too?16:23
pleia2starcraftman: there is a classroom management team16:24
starcraftmanpleia2: ah ok, not for contribs then. s'okay, I got enough teams I guess.16:24
nigelbabuplenty of lernid users today :)16:24
nigelbabuI count more than 1516:24
cjohnstonand thats just who hasnt changed from lernid nicks correct?16:24
nigelbabuno16:25
nigelbabulernid automatically prepends user with lernid_16:25
nigelbabuactually lernid opens 2 irc connections, one with telepathy and one with webchat16:25
cjohnstonnigelbabu: im in as cjohnston|lernid16:25
nigelbabuthe webchat is the user name we decide16:26
nigelbabucheck lernid_cjohnston|lernid16:26
nigelbabuthe telepathy is lernid_<what-you-decided>16:26
cjohnstonoh thats just off16:27
nigelbabunext time, we'll ask all instructors to run lernid instance16:28
nigelbabuthat way they'll be careful ;)16:28
cjohnstonpleia2: email good16:28
nigelbabucjohnston, I'm in classroom and I never got an email :(16:29
nigelbabuI mean clasroom list16:29
cjohnstondunno16:30
nigelbabuhunts for archive16:30
cjohnstonubuntu-classroom@lists.ubuntu.com16:30
nigelbabuyep16:30
pleia2nigelbabu: you are configured to get digests16:32
pleia2rather than individual emails16:32
cjohnston;-)16:32
nigelbabudoh! I dont get that either16:32
pleia2digests are bad for low traffic lists like classroom16:32
pleia2takes weeks to finally get email16:32
nigelbabuyeah16:33
nigelbabuthose were my first few days16:33
nigelbabunow only docs is digest16:33
cjohnstontoo much wiki email today16:35
nigelbabupleia2, who does the recruiting (arm-twisting) for dev week?16:35
cjohnstonlol16:35
nigelbabudaniel?16:35
cjohnstonyes16:35
pleia2nigelbabu: the motu folks16:35
nigelbabucjohnston, put docs into digest (that thing is not worth it anyway)16:36
nigelbabuits mostly about sys docs16:36
cjohnstonlol16:36
nigelbabupleia2, and I'll help cjohnston with the recruiting and with advertising16:37
pleia2\o/16:37
cjohnstonPendulum: did you go away for a break or are you still around16:37
PendulumI'm still here, was attempting to order groceries16:37
nigelbabupleia2, ?16:37
* nigelbabu looks around wondering if he said something wrong16:38
pleia2\o/ <-- cheering16:39
cjohnstonnigelbabu: thats great16:39
cjohnston;-)16:39
nigelbabuah !16:39
nigelbabuBTW, Some of the bugs in Lernid are actually fixed16:40
cjohnston?16:40
cjohnstonis there an update?16:40
nigelbabuJono hasn't merged all the branch requests that he's got16:40
cjohnstonic16:40
nigelbabuonce he does that, its going to be clean16:40
nigelbabuI spoke to quense about it.  He's hacked around it16:41
nigelbabus/clean/cleaner16:42
nigelbabuwhoever is introducing me, talk about attacks again and logs available16:47
nigelbabuand survey16:47
cjohnstonleave my poor phone (email) alone!16:49
nigelbabuyour on your phone?16:50
nigelbabupleia2, if you dont mind, I could use the extra time16:52
pleia2sorry, I wasn't paying attention, extra time?16:52
jamaltanigelbabu: take it :)16:52
nigelbabujamalta, thanks.  beautiful session :)16:53
jamaltanigelbabu: thanks :)16:53
nigelbabupleia2, jamalta is done.  wondered if I could start early16:53
pleia2nigelbabu: but what if people come for your session? they will be late16:53
pleia2we really should stick to the schedule so people aren't disappointed16:53
nigelbabuok :)16:53
pleia2(people can disagree with me if they want)16:54
pleia2hehe16:54
cjohnstongood point16:55
cjohnstonbut who would wnat to listen to nigelbabu ?16:55
cjohnston:-P16:55
cjohnstonjk of course16:55
jamaltabtw, thank you all :)16:55
nigelbabuhehe16:55
jamaltathis was a very fun experience16:55
cjohnstonthanks jamalta !16:55
Pendulumnigelbabu: do you want questions throughout or just at the end?16:56
nigelbabuPendulum, I'll take it thrice during the session.  I'll ask for them :)16:56
Pendulumokay :)16:57
Pendulumyou might want to say that at the beginning16:57
nigelbabuI will16:57
nigelbabuum, why can't I voice/devoice anyone? even though I'm op16:57
pleia2doing it wrong? :)16:58
cjohnstonnigelbabu: /mode +/- v <user>16:59
nigelbabuyeah17:00
cjohnstonits noon17:00
nigelbabuthe msg thingie is not working17:00
pleia2hehe17:00
cjohnstonwho is introducing?17:00
pleia2what is it saying?17:00
nigelbabunot me!17:00
pleia2I can do it, just read the intro page?17:00
nigelbabuyeah17:00
cjohnstonya17:00
cjohnstonyou got it pleia2 ?17:02
nigelbabuim on?17:02
pleia2go :)17:02
DiegoTchey guys a new record17:03
PendulumDiegoTc: way to go!17:04
DiegoTc101 people on EL Dia del Usuario Ubuntu17:04
cjohnstonyay!17:07
pleia2DiegoTc: great!17:07
Pendulum\o/17:07
jamaltaalright thx everyone17:10
jamaltai have to head out to reinstall karmic on my machine17:10
Pendulumjamalta: thank you!17:10
jamaltaeverything looks retarded lol17:10
jamaltaPendulum: thank you! :)17:10
jamaltagood job to everyone17:10
jamaltayou guys are doing great17:10
Pendulumjamalta: can you please not use the word retarded? it's offensive17:10
jamaltaPendulum: sorry :(17:11
jamaltaI will rephrase that then, everything looks distorted17:11
Pendulumthanks :)17:11
jamaltaPendulum: yw, sorry about that17:12
pleia2gah, colon17:12
pleia2sorry17:13
cjohnstonI've sent jono an email to let him know some feedback17:15
PendulumI have to admit the immediate apologies when someone does slip up and use a colon are somewhat amusing me17:15
pleia2thinking first instead of after is too hard :)17:16
cjohnstonlol17:16
pleia2*paste* OH BOTHER!17:16
Pendulumand then I giggle when I see the apology :)17:17
Pendulum(although some of that may be sleep deprivation, I suppose)17:17
pleia2hehe17:17
* cjohnston feels like he needs a shower17:18
pleia2me too17:19
* cjohnston wishes we could all get together for dinner and a drink after this17:20
cjohnstonlol17:20
nigelbabucjohnston, me too!17:21
cjohnstonnigelbabu: come on over17:21
pleia2I'm glad you didn't say "for a shower after this"17:21
cjohnstonlol17:21
cjohnstonmy wife would have a problem with that17:21
pleia2hehe17:22
DiegoTccjohnston, i had to arranged the logs so they can be seen like this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/Introduction17:22
cjohnstonfor yours?17:22
DiegoTcyeap17:23
cjohnstoncool17:23
DiegoTchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion17:23
DiegoTclook17:23
nigelbabui'd love to, will you pay for my ticket ?17:23
nigelbabu;)17:23
DiegoTcbut is there a way only for copy paste17:23
cjohnstonyup.. uh huh... i know exactly what is going on there DiegoTc... so glad you gave me that link :-P17:23
cjohnstonjk.. it looks good DiegoTc17:23
DiegoTccjohnston, well i want this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion to look like this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/Introduction17:24
cjohnstonit does doesnt it?17:25
DiegoTcnop it doesn't17:25
DiegoTcthe english version looks like IRC log17:26
DiegoTcspanish version is lie this one17:26
DiegoTc<cjohnston> it does doesnt it?   11.2517:26
cjohnstonoh17:26
cjohnstonthat has to do with the log that you used17:26
cjohnstonwe should be able to get the ones from the bot...17:27
cjohnstonbrb17:27
pleia2DiegoTc: we're getting ours from irclogs.ubuntu.com17:30
pleia2the spanish ones is a bit confusing to my brain17:30
DiegoTcyes to me to17:31
DiegoTc:(17:31
DiegoTcthere it goes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion17:31
cjohnstoncool17:32
cjohnstonyou got it17:32
pleia2looks good :)17:32
mhall119I'm here17:33
_marx_mhall119, you do know about the colon thing right?17:34
* pleia2 fires up lernid to have a look17:35
mhall119_marx_, 2 or more right17:36
_marx_hadn't heard two none is probably safest17:37
mhall119ok17:38
* _marx_ just now started lernid17:39
mhall119test17:41
_marx_ah i c17:42
DiegoTcif i want to give voice to someone in a channel which is the command?17:43
cjohnstonits /mode +v <nick>17:44
DiegoTcand for taking it /mode -v <nick>17:45
Pendulumpleia2: are you around to talk about a -learning thing for a sec?17:46
pleia2Pendulum: sure17:46
cjohnstonnigelbabu: fyi 8 minutes17:52
Pendulumhiya dinda :)17:52
cjohnstonlunch has arrived.. yay!17:52
mhall119my house it getting crowded17:53
cjohnstoni bet17:53
nigelbabucjohnston, done, questions now17:53
cjohnstonyou smokin some food?17:53
cjohnstonawesome nigelbabu17:53
nigelbabucjohnston, how was it? too fast?17:53
cjohnstontbh i didnt horribly pay too much attention... trying to work on other things17:53
cjohnstonat the same time17:53
_marx_it was good nigelbabu good job!17:54
pleia2it was great nigelbabu :)17:54
pleia2nigelbabu: you ok posting hte QUESTIONs?17:54
nigelbabuyeah17:55
nigelbabui'm cool with that17:55
pleia2ok :)17:55
cjohnstonim planning on reading all the logs later on.. ;-)17:56
cjohnstonthen tell mhall119 how bad... i mean how good of a job he did17:56
* mhall119 is anxious17:56
pleia2mhall119: you'll do great! :)17:56
mhall119it still feels like public speaking17:56
mhall119pleia2, are you giving time warnings?17:57
pleia2I keep forgetting17:57
mhall119like at 15 minutes, 10 mintues, etc17:57
mhall119well then I'll blame it on you if I run over ;P17:57
pleia2ok17:57
pleia2hehe17:57
cjohnstonive been giving some mhall11917:57
cjohnstondepending on how they are doing17:57
mhall119ok17:58
cjohnstonyour on mike18:01
mhall119is someone pasting questions in to -classroom?18:01
mhall119please please18:01
cjohnstonup to you18:01
cjohnstonthen18:01
cjohnstonye18:01
cjohnstons18:01
nigelbabuphew18:01
* nigelbabu is exhausted and feels high ;)18:01
* _marx_ gives nigelbabu a pat on the back18:04
cjohnstongo nigelbabu .. go nigelbabu ...18:05
cjohnstonits your birthday18:05
cjohnstonlol18:05
Pendulumnigelbabu: well done :)18:05
nigelbabuthanks :)18:05
starcraftmangood of you to have pics mhall119, next time I'd just take shots of the window, focuses user eyes and takes less space on pages.18:06
* starcraftman waves hello to cprofitt18:06
cjohnstonnigelbabu: is there a spam issue in -chat18:07
nigelbabustarcraftman: you made a heck a lot of work easier for me18:07
nigelbabucjohnston, yes18:07
cjohnstonis it someone in the room?18:07
nigelbabuhopefully most people set it to ignore18:07
nigelbabuthe guy got k-lined18:07
cjohnstonk18:07
starcraftmannigelbabu: hehe, getting more questions now? didn't get a lil bored not having a flurry to keep up with?18:08
* DiegoTc is getting tired :(18:10
starcraftmanDiegoTc: power nap time?18:10
starcraftmanSpanish session going alright?18:10
DiegoTcyeap, but we need people to help18:10
DiegoTcwe didn't think about that18:10
DiegoTchaha18:10
nigelbabuDiegoTc, it gets tiring doing the op parts after some time.  we're doing it in shifts18:11
starcraftmanI'd volunteer to deliver my get help speech but.... you'd have to find me a babel fish for translation to fit in my ear.18:11
DiegoTcnigelbabu, yeap, but you were prepared for that18:11
DiegoTcpablo and myself18:11
DiegoTcforget about that18:11
cprofittForum folks appear to be on vacation18:11
DiegoTcwe are asking help to person we know18:11
nigelbabugood :)18:12
nigelbabuduane?18:12
DiegoTcbut the problem is they don't have their nicks register18:12
DiegoTc:(18:12
nigelbabuDiegoTc, be careful about the ctcp spam floating around18:13
starcraftmannigelbabu: is this going to stop sometime?18:15
nigelbabustarcraftman, next saturday18:16
starcraftmanah good18:16
starcraftmannigelbabu: what's special about next saturday?18:16
DiegoTcnigelbabu, what i have to do if it appears'18:16
DiegoTc?18:16
cjohnstonthe new version of freenode i believe18:16
nigelbabujust make an announcement not to click the links18:16
pleia2starcraftman: fwiw, there are two mailing lists18:23
pleia2ubuntu-learning which focuses on course development18:23
pleia2and ubuntu-classroom which is a sub-project of -learning focused on the IRC portion of things18:23
starcraftmanpleia2:oh18:24
nigelbabuand ubuntu user days is like half there and half here ;)18:24
pleia2well, we use this channel to plan -classroom stuff18:24
pleia2since -classroom is a subproject18:24
pleia2so it's a bit confusing :)18:24
starcraftmanpleia2: I guess I can sign up for other too while I'm at it, got a good filtering scheme keeps me from flooding. I'm available for delivering the odd session if you guys need.18:24
starcraftmanlink?18:25
pleia2starcraftman: great!18:25
Pendulumthere are 2 mailing lists?18:25
pleia2https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-classroom18:26
Pendulumhmm... I think I'm not on one of them18:26
nigelbabuPendulum, you aren't ubuntu member yet?18:26
starcraftmanpleia2: np, I do more advanced topics as needed too. Just not server stuff.18:26
Pendulumnigelbabu: no...18:27
nigelbabuah, that figures how you turn up on my gtalk contacts18:27
* cjohnston doesnt have anyone on google talk18:28
cjohnstonlol18:28
Pendulumnigelbabu: when I go for member I'd be pendulum@ubuntu.com not pstowe anyway18:28
nigelbabuhehe18:29
nigelbabuI renamed you now as pendulum, penelope was misleading18:29
nigelbabuI'd be wondering "now who is this"18:29
* cjohnston likes calling her Penny18:29
cjohnstondunno why18:29
PendulumPenny is fine as long as it's not Penny Lane18:30
cjohnstonJust Penny18:30
cjohnstonyyyuuuummmmmmm.. monster energy drink18:30
* pleia2 sips redbull18:37
cjohnstonI prefer monster18:38
cjohnstonthe locarb one tastes really good18:38
* Pendulum has never had redbull or monster18:38
* nigelbabu is on d bed18:38
pleia2this is the sugar free one18:38
pleia2nomonom18:38
cjohnstonlol18:39
nigelbabume <3 the fact that maco and hggh are answering questions that session leaders cannot resolve :)18:40
cjohnstonlol18:41
cjohnstontryin to clean out my email18:42
DiegoTcSOS18:44
nigelbabuDiegoTc, yes?18:44
cjohnstonwhats up dude?18:44
DiegoTcI am almost alone right now in #ubuntu-charlas18:45
DiegoTcPAblo got sick right now18:45
DiegoTche went to the hospital18:45
cjohnston??18:45
nigelbabuoh18:45
cjohnston:-(18:45
cjohnstonI'm in there18:45
cjohnstonDon't know how much help I can be by not understanding18:46
DiegoTcwell  supposly we were going to divide i am living at 22.00  utc and was going to be the last 2 hours18:46
nigelbabuDiegoTc, how much more to go?18:48
nigelbabui mean hours18:48
DiegoTci will be 3 more hours18:48
cjohnstonDiegoTc: is there anything we can help you wish?18:50
cjohnstonwith18:50
pleia2shall we drag magicfab here?18:50
cjohnstonim trying to think of spanish speakers who can help18:50
cjohnstonhe is still teaching in spanish user day18:50
pleia2ah ok18:50
pleia2right right, they were back to back sessions18:51
DiegoTcmagicfab is leaving after the english class he gives18:51
DiegoTcwell someone has to be op and always be in passing by #ubuntu-charlas-chat18:51
DiegoTcand if someone see <PREGUNTA>18:51
DiegoTccopy it to the #ubuntu-charlas channel18:51
DiegoTcright now there is no problem, but i am wondering what will happen in 3hours18:52
DiegoTc:S18:52
cjohnstoncan some of your other instructos help out?18:53
cjohnstonhey hggdh18:53
hggdhcheers18:53
cjohnstonthanks for your help today18:53
nigelbabuDiegoTc, hggdh *mite* volunteer to help you guys out18:53
cjohnstonhggdh: speaks spanish?18:54
* _marx_ spanish is pretty bad18:54
hggdhI can read it -- I speak Portuguese18:54
pleia2all I can say is "no hablo espanol" and "yo tengo dos gatos"18:54
cjohnstoni can ask for a telephone number, and where the pain is18:54
hggdhLOL18:54
pleia2:)18:54
Pendulumhggdh: can you read it enough that if you were to see something say <PREGUNTA> and then something else, you'd know it was a quesiton to be pasted into a channel where someone was teaching a class?18:55
hggdhPendulum: oh yes, this is easy18:55
cjohnstonhggdh: can you help out the spanish user days?18:56
hggdhfor the record, pregunta == pergunta in Portuguese18:56
cjohnstonone of their hosts went to the hospital18:56
hggdhcjohnston: yes18:56
cjohnstonexcept for the fact that i can guess pregunta means question, i wouldnt know18:56
pleia2hehe18:56
DiegoTcyes18:56
cjohnstonhggdh: #ubuntu-charlas and #ubuntu-charlas-chat18:57
mhall119my fingers hurt18:57
hggdhcjohnston: I am there18:57
mhall119that was ferocious typing18:57
cjohnston:-)18:57
pleia2woohoo mhall119! :)18:58
nigelbabuDiegoTc, can you voice hggdh please18:58
Pendulummhall119: well done!18:58
DiegoTcyeap18:58
DiegoTcI am doing it right now18:58
nigelbabu:)18:58
mhall119I knew I was gonna run long18:58
mhall119I wasn't too terribly technical was I?18:58
DiegoTcthanks guys18:58
mhall119okay, I've got meat to attend to, thanks for letting me be a part of User Day18:59
nigelbabuI got this one ;)18:59
pleia2thanks mhall119 :)18:59
nigelbabumhall119, it was nice :)18:59
cjohnstonthanks mike!18:59
nigelbabumhall119, I've only done from command line18:59
DiegoTcwell hggdh will help in the copy paste question from 23. utc and Jdardon he will be op when i leave18:59
_marx_good job mhall11918:59
nigelbabumhall119, thanks for amazing class, again :)18:59
hggdhDiegoTc: roger wilco19:00
DiegoTchaha19:00
pleia2does lernid give like 50 notifications for new sessions for everyone?19:00
hggdhDiegoTc: you mean 23:00 UTC, correct?19:00
Pendulumyes19:00
DiegoTcdon't  understand19:00
DiegoTcyeap19:00
nigelbabupleia2, no19:00
hggdhOK. So I am going out for 30 minutes to grab me lunch19:00
DiegoTcokay19:00
pleia2nigelbabu: I think you can go ahead and introduce magicfab19:01
Pendulumis MagicFab done with his spanish presentation?19:01
_marx_no, look like not quite19:02
DiegoTche got a little excited :D19:02
cjohnstonall i know is he said MORTAL FATAL....19:05
DiegoTchaha19:05
DiegoTche finish19:05
cjohnstonpleia2: Pendulum nigelbabu _marx_ how ya doin?19:06
pleia2good, pizza should be here soon!19:06
pleia2:)19:06
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cjohnstonyummy19:06
nigelbabucjohnston, a little sleepy, its 12:30 am19:06
nigelbabuI didn't sleep in the afternoon at all19:06
cjohnstonyou can take off whenever you need to19:07
_marx_ok, streatching my spanish skills trying to follow some over there19:07
pleia2does MF want questions pasted to him as they come in, or will he pause and ask for them?19:07
Pendulumcjohnston: okay. just finished some wings and have a burrito to start in on when I get hungry next19:07
Pendulumoh and a passionfruit shake to try19:07
cjohnstonlol19:07
cjohnstonpleia2: dont know.. i tried PMing him, but no response19:08
Pendulumthe bonus of living in Harlem is good Spanish food :)19:08
DiegoTcMagicFab  finish in one channel and goes directly to the other one19:12
starcraftmanduanedesign: poke, how goes?19:13
Pendulumbtw, do you guys want me to take the next intro?19:16
* starcraftman hopes duanedesign hasn't gotten lost before session.19:16
cjohnstonthats fine19:16
PendulumI feel like I'm not pulling my own weight here, sorry :(19:17
cjohnstonyour doin fine19:17
pleia2Pendulum: if you want to take over posting questions when my food arrives, you're welcome to :)19:18
Pendulumokay :)19:18
nigelbabuPendulum, no problem, go :)19:19
duanedesignstarcraftman: good19:29
starcraftmanah hey duanedesign, good good, just checking.19:29
starcraftmanI'll be around if ya need a bit of hand, just touching up a lil program fora  class.19:30
Pendulumduanedesign: do you have an intro I can use?19:30
Pendulum(to introduce you)19:30
Pendulumor a wiki page that I can read quickly and use to create one?19:30
cjohnstonI'm going to stretch for a few minutes.. if you ping me it will go to my phone, so if you need something.. ping me19:31
cjohnstonbut dont abuse it19:31
Pendulumhaha19:31
pleia2Pendulum: food arrived! passing question handling to you :)19:34
Pendulumkk19:34
Pendulumduanedesign: intro for me to use?19:34
starcraftmanPendulum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/duanedesign < Duanes page, must be busy prepping.19:42
duanedesignPendulum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/duanedesign19:44
duanedesignoops19:44
cjohnstononly 26100 more seconds19:44
cjohnstonhttp://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=23&month=1&year=2010&hour=22&min=00&sec=00&p0=86719:45
nigelbabucan you guys mange the show?19:45
cjohnstonya19:45
duanedesignstarcraftman: are you familiar with were the mount point is specified when creating a new Logical Partition. I dont have a LiveCD burned right now to check.19:45
cjohnstongo to bed19:45
* DiegoTc is tired :S19:46
hggdhonly a few more hours, DiegoTc ;-)19:47
nigelbabuI'll be back in a few hours19:47
cjohnstonsleep well nigelbabu19:47
starcraftmanduanedesign: hmm, I can boot lucid vm installer and see. If you need screens check the gparted site doc seciton eh? I'm sure they dun mind ya borrow.19:47
nigelbabuits 1 am and i'm hardly holding up19:47
duanedesignthats a good place to check19:47
DiegoTcnigelbabu, here is almost 219:48
DiegoTcbut pm :p19:48
hggdhg'night nigelbabu, good work :-)19:48
nigelbabuthanks hggdh, not complete yet19:48
DiegoTcGood Night nigelbabu19:48
DiegoTcthanks for all19:48
nigelbabuI'm spreading nets for next session19:48
starcraftmannight nigelbabu19:48
nigelbabugetting people to lead sessions ;)19:48
nigelbabugot one now19:49
nigelbabupleia2, maco commited to doing a session next time19:49
pleia2\o/19:49
hggdhway to go.19:49
* hggdh wonders how the hell he got pulled in ;-)19:49
DiegoTcfor the next time we have to get better prepared with PAblo :D19:49
DiegoTcwe have learn something new this day19:50
DiegoTcWE ARE HUMANS!!19:50
DiegoTcwe get tired :(19:50
cprofittpleia2: 4pm EST is my time -- anything you need from me prior to the session?19:50
pleia2nope19:50
cprofittk19:50
cjohnstonyes19:50
pleia2oh19:50
cjohnstona million dollars19:51
pleia2:P19:51
cprofittI do have breaks where I ask for questions. and at the end as well.19:51
DiegoTchahah19:51
cprofittI will be linking them out to the wiki and to the forums19:51
cjohnstonok.. cool19:51
_marx_cprofitt, you know about the colon problem in lernid?19:51
hggdhok, my first intervention in perfect Spanish done. Perfect, a least for me.19:53
cjohnstonof the 5 people in my house, im the only one awake at 3pm19:53
pleia2hehe19:53
pleia2my housemates are cats, so it's no surprise that they are sleeping19:53
nigelbabucan someone give me a wake up call in a few hours lol19:54
cjohnstonumm19:55
cjohnstonsure19:55
cjohnstonif you pay for the call19:55
nigelbabuhehe19:55
mhall119cjohnston, you looking for me?19:56
cjohnstonPendulum: are you doing the next one?19:56
cjohnstonmhall119: nope.. some people in -fl are19:56
Pendulumcjohnston: if I can figure out what to say19:57
cjohnstonduanedesign: ?19:57
Pendulumor do you want to do it and I'll do the one after19:57
Pendulum(I've been distracted by posting questions19:57
cjohnstonill do it19:57
duanedesignthats a good place to check/819:58
DiegoTchello duanedesign19:59
duanedesignhello19:59
cjohnstonduanedesign: do you have an intro?19:59
duanedesignno :(19:59
_marx_nicely done cjohnston20:01
cjohnstonI know.. thats why i'm cjohnston and your not20:02
cjohnston:-P20:02
cjohnstonjk20:02
cjohnstonheh20:02
cjohnston25000 more seconds!!!20:03
cjohnstonlol20:03
cjohnston_marx_: having a good day?20:04
_marx_yeah, haven't killed a pesky cat yet, butt is getting tired of sitting20:05
cjohnstonget up and walk around.. i did a little bit ago20:05
_marx_today she decides she wants to play with network cables!20:05
cjohnstonlmao20:05
pleia2hehe20:05
_marx_back in a few20:07
cjohnston;-)20:07
hggdhcan someone ban IngoForina on the charlas-chat?20:08
hggdhIngForigua, sorry20:08
cjohnstonuggh20:09
cjohnstondoes anyone have ops?20:10
cjohnstonwhat is he needing banned for20:10
cjohnstonhggdh:20:10
cjohnstonDiegoTc:20:10
DiegoTcyes cjohnston20:10
cjohnstonDiegoTc: look up at hggdh's msgs20:10
hggdhhe idiot was suggesting at chat for people to use 'sudo rm -rf /'20:11
cjohnstonhe is one of the instructos too20:11
DiegoTchggdh, yeap he is one of the instructors20:12
hggdhfor me this is enough reason to ban. It is not acceptable at all.20:12
cjohnstonDiegoTc: do you have the ability to ops in charlas-chat ?20:12
hggdhDiegoTc: please tell him not to do taht anymore20:12
Pendulumyou could always point out that I'm fairly certain that falls under violation of the CoC if he won't listen20:13
DiegoTchggdh, ready20:14
DiegoTcwhich is the command for giving op to someone?20:15
cjohnstonit is /mode +o <nick>20:15
* pleia2 hugs IdleOne 20:15
* IdleOne hugs back20:15
DiegoTcthanks20:16
IdleOneadded to favorites20:16
pleia2IdleOne wants to help with our next UUD :)20:16
cjohnstonwhats an IdleOne20:16
pleia2he's a canadian with an ubuntu tattoo!20:16
IdleOnecjohnston: Well it is a ummm, well. What's it to you? :P20:16
IdleOne:) hehe20:16
Pendulumhiya IdleOne :)20:16
hggdhDiegoTc: I am ready20:16
IdleOneheya Pendulum20:17
IdleOne:)20:17
cjohnstonumm... its... i dunno20:17
IdleOnecjohnston: it's an old nick from another network20:17
IdleOnejust doesn't seem to want to go away20:17
cjohnstonwhats your current nick on this network?20:18
IdleOneIdleOne:20:18
IdleOne:)20:18
cjohnstonuh huh20:18
cjohnstonthank20:18
cjohnstonthanks20:18
DiegoTchggdh and cjohnston sometimes in spanish they are some phrases that will look ofensive in enlgish, so becarful with that20:18
cjohnstonDiegoTc i will20:19
hggdhDiegoTc: certainly20:19
DiegoTcand in the chat channel they are having spam, questions and also helping in the interview20:20
DiegoTcso don't think they are just having full spam there :p20:20
cjohnstonthe sun is getting to that spot where it comes through the window and my office is almost unbearable20:22
hggdhheh. At least you have the sun shining. Here... blah weather20:23
cjohnstonits flipping january 23 and its 75 degrees... i hate it!20:23
DiegoTccjohnston,  hggdh andresmujica and Jdardon will be helping20:24
cjohnstonsweet20:24
hggdhand in Chicago is about 48...20:24
DiegoTcright now they are eating :D20:24
cjohnstonthats too hot20:24
cjohnstonawesome20:24
DiegoTcgoing to the shower20:24
_marx_98 in -charlas atm20:38
cjohnston207 in classroom!20:38
_marx_i think it's been higher than that20:39
hggdhwhen I got in the -charlas, it was at about 12020:39
DiegoTchggdh, 120?20:41
cjohnstonpleia2: your killing my inbox20:41
cjohnstonlol20:41
pleia2sorry :)20:41
DiegoTcwho didn't saw it the most i saw 11220:41
hggdhDiegoTc: as far as I can remember. I was curious, so I looked at the body count20:41
cprofittpleia2: what room(s) do I need to be in?20:42
pleia2cprofitt: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat20:42
pleia2you talk in #ubuntu-classroom, people chat and ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, we paste questions to you in #ubuntu-classroom20:42
Pendulumcprofitt: do you want questions as you go or have you built in question & answer time or how would you like that handled?20:43
cprofittI have built in spaces for questions20:43
cprofittbut questions that are relevant can interrupt me...20:43
cprofittI really do not mind20:43
cjohnston22,500 seconds left  ;-)20:44
pleia2hehe20:45
* cjohnston is firing emails back at pleia2 now.. hehe20:45
* Pendulum is ignoring emails today20:46
* _marx_ too20:46
Pendulumif you don't have my phone number or aren't on IRC, you can wait, IMO20:46
* pleia2 reviews diff - yay!20:46
* cjohnston goes searching Pendulum's phone number20:47
cjohnstonlol20:47
cjohnstonI'm taking care of the todo list that pleia2 gave me20:47
nhandlercjohnston: When you add links to LP, don't link to edge (re: w.u.c/Classroom/Guidelines)20:47
cjohnstonand trying to keep from having a thousand wiki change emails from pleia220:48
cjohnstonsorry nhandler20:48
pleia2it's ok, I filter them all anyway20:49
nhandlercjohnston: No problem. Your update looks good. Maybe mention how to OP, set the /topic, and set +m (many people don't know how to do that)20:49
cjohnstonI plan on it20:49
* nhandler has gotten a million emails from the User Day pages20:49
cjohnston98% prolly from me20:49
cjohnstonlol20:49
cjohnstonI havent mastered the preview button20:49
nhandler:)20:49
pleia2nah, I've been updating all the pages to have logs20:49
pleia2so probably lots from me :)20:50
DiegoTcnhandler, really?20:51
nhandlerDiegoTc: Really what?20:51
DiegoTc* nhandler has gotten a million emails from the User Day pages20:51
nhandlerDiegoTc: Well, maybe not a million, but a lot20:51
DiegoTchaha20:52
DiegoTcokay20:52
cjohnstonit is way too flipping hot in here20:52
hggdhO(1 million) certainly ;-)20:52
cprofittso just hang in the channel and wait for the introdution now?20:58
hggdhcprofitt: yes20:58
cjohnstonits you21:01
cjohnstoncprofitt:21:01
pleia2oops, duanedesign used /Partitioning and we had /Partitioning101 linked21:02
cjohnstonjust noticed that my current karma is 3344  lol21:02
* pleia2 gets rid of the 10121:02
cjohnstonhmm.. trying to figure out the best way to format this21:05
cjohnstonnhandler: ill try to hit preview so i dont spam you too much21:05
nhandlercjohnston: Don't worry about it ;) I'm used to it.21:06
cjohnstonlol21:06
cjohnstonI'm trying to learn to be nice21:06
cjohnstonlol21:06
Pendulumcjohnston: better late than never? :P21:07
cjohnstonouch21:07
* Pendulum hugs cjohnston 21:07
cjohnstonuh huh21:07
hggdhcjohnston: you karma beats mine21:07
pleia2yeah I have like 2 karmas21:07
pleia2hehe21:08
PendulumI have none, I think21:08
pleia2oh sorry, 15 :)21:08
cjohnstonpleia2: you have 1521:08
cjohnstonhggdh: umm.. your karma is scary21:09
cprofitthow are questions handled... how do I know if there are none?21:10
hggdhthere will be someone forwarding them to you21:10
cjohnston hggdh the last 4 digits of my phone number is 383321:10
cjohnstonyour karma is 388321:10
cjohnstonthats too close21:11
cjohnstonfor comfort21:11
cjohnstonlol21:11
hggdhcjohnston: I *knew* karma was useful somewhere!21:11
cprofittcan we have the other class leave dicussion if that is where people are supposed to be asking me questions21:11
hggdhcjohnston: ^21:11
cjohnstoncprofitt: just look for what starts with QUESTION  dont worry about the rest. if thats ok?21:13
pleia2cprofitt: you'll want to avoid using :21:13
pleia2it breaks lernid :)21:13
pleia2(or try anyway, we're all failing at this)21:13
cjohnstonlol21:13
hggdhcjohnston: who is going to forward Qs to c profitt?21:14
pleia2Pendulum is already21:14
cjohnstonPendulum: is on top of this stuff21:14
hggdhoh, k, sorry21:14
cjohnstonhggdh: i can keep you voiced and you can help21:14
Pendulumcprofitt: let me know if I'm pasting too fast for you21:14
hggdhif Pendulum is there, no need21:15
PendulumI'm trying to wait until I think you've finished the previous, but can't always tell21:15
cprofittI will let you know21:15
DiegoTcthe logs have been update 100 % https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/LogsEnero201021:16
Pendulumalso, let me know if you want me to wait until you ask for questions at any point21:17
cprofittk21:17
cprofittPendulum: we good to go on to the next topic...21:17
Pendulumlooks like it :)21:17
cjohnstonduanedesign: thanks for the last minute step up!21:20
duanedesigncjohnston: no problem. i am glad to do it21:20
duanedesigncjohnston: hour goes by quick21:21
duanedesign:P21:21
duanedesignor i type slow21:21
cjohnstonhmm21:22
* cjohnston goes looking for wiki help21:22
cjohnstonlol21:22
DiegoTccjohnston, Pablo got intoxicated with his lunch21:24
cjohnstonintoxicated?21:24
DiegoTcintoxicated21:25
DiegoTcyeap21:25
cjohnstonlike drunk?21:25
starcraftmanduanedesign: nice job duanedesign :)21:25
duanedesignstarcraftman: thanks the prep time went fast. The session went even faster. Definetly learned a lot for my next session, as that was my first one.21:26
duanedesigni.e. put important stuff first in case you run long :)21:27
starcraftmanduanedesign: good good, was my first one too. Ah yes, or know strictly how long your going. I just pretyped it, I'd have never finished otherwise.21:28
cjohnstonG3521:28
cjohnstonugg21:28
DiegoTcguys Jorge Castro speaks spanish?21:42
starcraftmanDiegoTc: dunno him, ask.21:43
jcastrohi!21:48
pleia2hey jcastro :)21:48
Pendulumhiya jcastro :)21:48
jcastrowow neat, lernid notified-osd'ed me that I have 10 minutes!21:49
DiegoTchi jcastro21:50
DiegoTcjcastro, you speak spanish21:50
jcastrohi!21:50
jcastronope.21:50
jcastrois there a paste person or is just me?21:56
PendulumI'm there21:56
* jcastro can do whichever21:56
jcastrook, cool21:56
Pendulumdo you want questions through out or at specific points?21:56
jcastrothroughout it fine21:56
jcastroI'll start with a spiel21:56
jcastroand then some points21:56
jcastroand then be alike "any questions so far?"21:57
Pendulumand that's a good time to start putting in questions? ;)21:57
jcastroyeah, heh21:57
Pendulumcjohnston, _marx_, nigelbabu, pleia2: who is introducing jcastro ?21:57
Pendulum(I can do it, I just wanted to know if someone else was)21:58
_marx_you want this one?21:58
Pendulumsure21:58
_marx_ghead21:58
nhandlercjohnston: If you include {{{, the wiki formatting is ignored21:59
cjohnstonim noticing..21:59
cjohnstonI'm trying to figure out how to do this, but wanted to show pleia2 the length21:59
DiegoTcokay guys i will leave in some minutes21:59
DiegoTc:D21:59
doctormopleia2: hey22:00
pleia2hey doctormo22:00
cjohnstonwhats up doc?22:00
doctormoDo you have any experence with raid?22:01
pleia2software or hardware?22:01
PendulumI think I just got cut off :P22:01
doctormopleia2: Looks like it might be software, bios raid 1 on a Dell desktop22:01
pleia2doctormo: raid 1 configured on a dell controller?22:02
pleia2or configured by mdadm in linux?22:02
pleia2(if former, yuck)22:02
doctormopleia2: raid 1 configured by the bios on the dell (I think) it's hard to figure out.22:03
* pleia2 nods22:03
pleia2my experience with those is 1) they are a pain to configure and work with because nothing is labeled sanely in the raid bios22:03
pleia22) when one dies, you're in trouble22:03
pleia2one == controller22:04
pleia2that said, what is your question? :)22:04
DiegoTccjohnston, hggdh I am leaving in 5 mintues22:04
DiegoTcminutes22:04
cjohnstonok DiegoTc thanks..22:04
cjohnstonhow much longer is yours scheduled?22:04
DiegoTcandresmujica, and Jdardon will be heloing22:04
hggdhDiegoTc: OK22:04
DiegoTcit finish at 1utc22:05
cjohnstonso about 3 hours22:05
DiegoTc3 more clases are missing22:05
DiegoTcI think I will be for the end22:05
DiegoTcthanks for all22:05
cjohnstonthanks DiegoTc22:06
cjohnstonnhandler: how does that one look?22:07
doctormopleia2: One has died ;-)22:07
pleia2doctormo: find another that is identical22:07
pleia2that's your only hope, good luck :)22:08
doctormopleia2: Another disk?22:08
pleia2oh, a disk died?22:08
doctormopleia2: yes22:08
pleia2ah ok, that shouldn't be so bad22:08
nhandlercjohnston: I'll make a few changes. For instance, I would talk about OPing yourself instead of giving yourself OPs. I would also only mention the /mode #ubuntu-classroom +m command (not the /mode +m), it should work in all clients22:09
cjohnston17,450 seconds left for those keeping track22:09
cjohnstonok22:09
pleia2pull the bad disk, put in a new one, go into the raid bios and add the disk to the "container" (I think they call it container)22:09
cjohnstonGo for it.. and then ill learn from you ;-)22:09
DiegoTcthanks22:09
pleia2it should automagically do it's thing and restore the data22:09
DiegoTcsee you later22:09
doctormopleia2: Ah thanks :-)22:09
pleia2doctormo: just pay attention to big warnings, the interface isn't particularly intuitive, this always takes me forever since I always fear data loss :)22:10
_marx_see ya DiegoTc22:10
cprofittso --- honest opinin -- did it go ok?22:11
hggdhcprofitt: yes22:11
_marx_yes it went well cprofitt22:11
Pendulumcprofitt: good job :)22:11
cprofittok ... thanks ... irc is much different than in-person...22:12
_marx_i got a little worried when the app specific questions started flowing in22:12
Pendulum_marx_: so did I22:12
cprofittyeah some of the specific stuff was a bit over my head22:12
_marx_so a _very good idea to have a forum post ready to go22:12
cprofittthat is why I had the forum area ready22:12
cprofittthanks _marx_22:13
_marx_i think we can make use of that in future sessions22:13
cprofittI think some courses benefit from it... that is for sure22:13
cprofittPendulum: will there be logs posted at some point?22:14
Pendulumcprofitt: should be. cjohnston and pleia2 have been handling those22:14
pleia2cprofitt: logs of your session are already posted22:14
pleia2at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/UbuntuEquivalentPrograms22:14
cjohnstoncprofitt: pleia2 is all over this stuff22:14
cjohnstonlol22:14
pleia2:)22:14
cprofittthanks pleia2 -- added a link to that on the forum post22:15
pleia2sure thing22:15
cjohnstonim glad pleia2 is all over the logs.. i dont feel like doing that today22:15
cprofittalready had and asnwered the first question on the forums22:15
pleia2hehe22:16
cprofittI have to admit I was a bit worried about taking on such a broad topic, but it is one I am passionate about22:16
cprofittspecific use cases for the applications are really better for a session dedicated to those apps22:16
cprofittbut you know they would come up in a session like this22:16
cprofittI have to run and eat dinner now...22:16
_marx_have some for me ;)22:17
cprofittbut if you have feedback on how to improve the IRC sessions I do I would be most appreciative of the feedback guys22:17
cjohnstonpizza has been ordered22:18
cjohnstonyay!22:18
pleia2yum yum22:18
doctormopleia2: OK it's an intel raid system and it has 4 options, none of which are recover.22:18
doctormopleia2: Delete Raid, Create Raid, Reset Raid and Exit22:19
pleia2doctormo: if you pull the bad disk, put in a new disk, and try to boot it - what does it do?22:19
doctormopleia2: It shows 1 member disk and 1 non-raid disk22:19
pleia2ok, so somehow we need to get that disk in as a member22:20
doctormopleia2: does the new disk have to be empty do you think?22:20
pleia2doctormo: shouldn't matter, it should wipe it22:20
pleia2doctormo: I'd look up what "reset raid" means, find some docs for the controller22:20
pleia2these things are never labeled well, that might be what you want, or it might mean "wipe all the data and make me cry"22:21
mhall119how did the rest of UUD go>22:21
pleia2mhall119: still going on! and good :)22:22
Pendulummhall119: it's still going :)22:22
doctormopleia2: Most of the options are cry22:22
pleia2doctormo: I hate hardware raid, even worse they don't tend to be faster than linux software raid these days, which has much less crying involved22:22
mhall119oh, I thought it ended by now22:23
pleia2mhall119: 4.5 more hours22:23
mhall119oh wow22:24
pleia2yeah, whose idea was it to make this so long anyway? :)22:24
PendulumI think our volunteer teachers22:24
* mhall119 blames cjohnston 22:24
Pendulumthey kept volunteering so cjohnston kept adding hours in to fit them ;)22:24
pleia2hehe22:25
cjohnstonalot of people were complaining that it was geared towards US TZ..22:26
cjohnstonso i kept adding to give as many people as possible a chance..22:27
Pendulumyeah, i'm hoping at some point we can get some people in Asia/Australia/NZ to do one the same day22:27
cjohnstonif more people kept volunteering I was gonna do two 12 hours dupilcated22:27
Pendulumheh22:27
doctormopleia2: This post doesn't fill me with joy: http://search.code-head.com/F-Raid-1-rebuild-ICH7-chipset-use-Matrix-Storage-Manager-217559122:28
doctormoIt looks like it can only be recovered using windows, by installing it to the new partition22:31
pleia2:(22:32
mhall119next UUD is gonna be 24 hours long, with one teacher in every timezone22:32
hggdhclassroom-chats needs some ops now22:32
cjohnstonhggdh: its hard to do anything22:33
doctormopleia2: Although according to intel's own pages you can use mdadm from 2.6.27 upwards.22:33
cjohnstonwtf22:36
paultagpleia2, I'm here. I'll be in the shower just before my block. I'll be here22:37
paultagBRB22:37
pleia2good :)22:37
mhall119what's the command to get ops in -chat?22:37
cjohnstonsame as in -classroom22:37
cjohnston:-P22:37
mhall119no BBQ for you22:38
jcastroam I the only personal spammed so far?22:38
cjohnstonmsg chanserv op chan22:38
jcastrobecause that would be awesome22:38
_marx_wow, this is the worst i've seen22:38
paultagDo you guys need OP help?22:38
paultagI'll op up if you want me in there22:38
hggdhjcastro: yes, you were selected to be the Most Spammed One (TM)22:39
jcastroawesome22:39
paultagcjohnston, I know how to op :P22:39
cjohnstonlol22:39
hggdhone more line in the resume ;-)22:39
doctormopleia2: But the ubuntu live cd doesn't see any md devices, perhaps there is some kernel module for imsm22:39
_marx_spam going by so fast i can't see the questions22:40
cjohnstonpleia2: try -m?22:44
cjohnstonits been a couple minutes22:44
cjohnstonuggh22:46
paultagback22:47
paultagClassroom ops -- I can manage my own questions :)22:47
pleia2good to know :)22:48
doctormopleia2: Ah looks like dmraid is the program to use, but I can't find out how to add a drive and it complains about the wrong number of devices.22:49
pleia2doctormo: ah interesting22:49
doctormoI wonder if it needs to be empty22:50
doctormoFor the bios to flag it as a replacement22:50
cjohnstonare yall good for a bit? family problems22:51
pleia2cjohnston: yep22:51
Pendulumcjohnston: go deal with that22:51
* _marx_ will topic change22:52
pleia2I'll intro the next then22:52
Pendulumand paultag said he was going to handle his own questions, yes?22:53
Pendulumpaultag: let us know if you need any help22:53
pleia2yep22:53
paultagPendulum, Sure thing. I have it all set22:53
paultagI have my XChat fragmented. I can see chat while typing22:53
paultag:)22:53
_marx_paultag, wait on pleia2 to finish the er your intro22:54
paultagSure thing22:54
cprofittthat raid does not look like real raid...22:56
cprofittor at least not the hardware raid I have used22:57
pleia2cprofitt: I'm thinking it's cheap hardware raid, like dell perc controllers22:57
pleia2which calls itself hardware raid, but its just a kludge of software on top of a cheap controller22:58
jcastroperc = pray everything rebuilds correctly22:58
pleia2hehe22:58
cprofitteven perc controllers usually have a bios on the controller that allows you to set the raid up22:58
cprofittI hate perc controllers though...22:58
cprofittbut any controller than requires windows to build the raid is the suck22:59
pleia2there is a raid bios from what doctormo said, but it's very very limited in functionality22:59
pleia2_marx_: ready?22:59
pleia2\o/22:59
* _marx_ was waiting on 18:0023:00
paultagGood to go?23:00
_marx_hit it23:01
_marx_14100 seconds to go ;)23:05
paultagheh23:13
_marx_t -45 and Hellow isn't here23:15
pleia2hmmm, he did blog about having internet issues23:16
pleia2now I'm worried :)23:16
paultagHe is usually good about tha23:17
paultagthe will find a line23:17
pleia2if not, is there anyone who can fill in? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/PackageManagementBasics23:17
paultagThe changes also pass through two trusted authorities, Debian and Ubuntu. As we are able to control exactly what goes into the packages, we can ensure that the packages are safe, and changes made are not malicious.23:17
* pleia2 nudges paultag back to the proper channel23:18
paultagShit! thanks :)23:18
pleia2:)23:18
_marx_lol!23:18
pleia2ok, I need a break from my monitor23:19
Pendulumokay23:19
pleia2bbiab :)23:19
cjohnstonI'm back23:29
cjohnstonsorry guys23:29
cjohnstonHow are we doing23:29
Pendulumfine23:30
Pendulumpaultag wanted to do his own questions23:30
Pendulumso he's been doing that23:30
Pendulumpleia2 has gone to take a break from the computer23:30
Pendulumand that's about how it all stands23:30
cjohnstona break for Pendulum23:30
_marx_t -30 and Hellow isn't here yet23:30
paultag:)23:30
cjohnstonYay!23:30
cjohnstonhows the spam23:30
paultagOK23:31
paultaga lot of CTCP static23:31
cjohnstonuggh23:31
* _marx_ wonders if shrini could move up an hour23:40
cjohnstonwhy?23:41
hggdhcjohnston: he just wanted us to verify the folks on -charla were happy with the answers23:41
_marx_still no Hellow23:41
cjohnstonlol hggdh23:41
hggdh:-)23:41
_marx_cjohnston, Hellow is up next and not around yet23:42
_marx_t -1723:43
cjohnstonemail said 15 minutes... so he still has 223:43
cjohnstonlol23:43
starcraftmanI'm sure hellow will make it, and that's another topic I like, apt from the command line! :)23:45
* _marx_ tries to stop worrying 23:46
starcraftman_marx_: squeeze a stress ball?23:47
_marx_thx, breathing exercises too23:49
starcraftmannot a super hard topic, ya could find someone to step in. I'd volunteer but I kinda thinking of going to game.23:49
starcraftmanThere's always my ready made apt guide for anyone to follow.23:49
cjohnstonI think that we have pretty much succeeded, so im happy23:49
cjohnstonlol23:49
_marx_he's got several things in his outline i wouldn't be able to cover well on short notice23:50
starcraftman_marx_: like?23:50
_marx_aptitude, never used it23:50
starcraftmanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50002023:50
starcraftman:)23:50
starcraftmanI still remember writing that, excellent piece of work, needs some up to date love.23:51
starcraftmanAll still quite relevant.23:51
starcraftmanaptitude just slightly different from apt-get, unless ya was meaning using the ncurses aptituded interface?23:52
cjohnstonhey shrini23:53
cjohnstonCan you possibly go on an hour early?23:53
shrinicjohnston: hei23:53
shrinicjohnston: sure23:53
starcraftman_marx_: oh dear.... http://hellow.posterous.com/death-to-my-connection < If you didn't see.23:53
_marx_i did23:53
shrinicjohnston: woke up so early :-)23:53
shrinicjohnston: at which time?23:54
cjohnstonnext23:54
starcraftmanhi shrini, 5 minutes.23:54
shrinicjohnston: wow23:54
cjohnstonI thought I had seen him since then23:54
shrinicjohnston: thats great23:54
cjohnstondunno23:54
shrinicjohnston: I am ready23:54
cjohnstonWe will give a couple more minutes..23:54
shrinicjohnston: just confirm me once again23:54
starcraftmanshrini: I just wanted to say been waiting on your presentation. You going to cover handling sync conflicts with One?23:54
shrinicjohnston: sure23:54
shrinistarcraftman: sure23:56
_marx_next would be nhandler on IRC do we need to see if he can move up as well?23:56
pleia2are you sure? the schedule has been widely repeated23:56
paultagI'll stall23:56
cjohnston_marx_: we can wait and see if by chance hellow shows up23:57
_marx_pleia2, we're missing Hellow23:57
_marx_right very good23:57
pleia2_marx_: I understand, but changing the schedule may upset people who come for shrini's presentation in an hour :(23:57
cjohnstonpleia2: you wanna take a break?23:57
pleia2would probably be better to find some filler presentation23:57
_marx_indeed23:57
cjohnstonwhatcha fillin in on pleia2 ?23:57
cjohnston:-P23:57
IdleOnehaha23:57
pleia2IdleOne is going to talk about apt!23:58
IdleOneI am?!23:58
starcraftmanha!23:58
* starcraftman runs away before laugh gets him volunteered.23:58
IdleOneI mean starcraftman has them really nice wiki's and all he is way more prepared then my completely not prepared self :)23:58
cjohnstonbut he wants to go to the game23:58
starcraftmanIdleOne: what hey? pleia2 clearly said IdleOne23:59
IdleOnegame can wait23:59
starcraftmancjohnston: now your making me feel guilty!23:59
IdleOnethis is UUD and more important23:59
pleia2that's how we got all our volunteers, guilt23:59
starcraftmanpleia2: lol23:59
cjohnstonits up to you bro.. please dont volunteer if you dont want to23:59

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