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linxehsee zipsplit, zip etc00:00
erUSULxim_: seems like the zip program in linux is less capable than winzip and its ilk :)00:00
linxehjust use zipsplit00:00
mick__on the contrary, its mmore powerful00:00
infidmick__ why would you do that when could have bought them both windows licenses for over 100 dollars each and get to deal with reinstalling it all the time when they get malware/virus infested?00:00
kradstfu00:00
kradmick__00:00
erUSULxim_: either way; unix moto is "do one thing and do it well" use zip; split and cat00:00
linxehkrad: ?00:01
mick__lol infid00:01
kradabusing my pm00:01
mick__im pming ou?00:01
kradwait00:01
kradsorry it's miip00:01
linxeherUSUL: or use zipsplit rather than split if you want anyone else to make sense of it00:01
kradbut anyway, stfu you too00:01
kradlmao00:01
mick__awww yoru a sweety krad :-P00:01
xim_linxeh, is zipslipt not in the repos?00:01
erUSULlinxeh: ok pint taken ;)00:01
kradmick__, faggot00:02
linxehxim_: I already have it on my ubuntu box00:02
mick__righteo krad.00:02
xim_its seeming less and less likely i can get this file split in the next hour00:03
linxehdpkg -S `which zipsplit`00:03
linxehzip: /usr/bin/zipsplit00:03
Picikrad, mick__ : This is a support channel. Lets keep it civil and on-topic.  If you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic , but please mind the /topic in there as well.00:03
mick__linuxeh..another motto is ''unix is user friendly, just choosy about who it is friendly with''00:03
mick__i am trying thankyou00:03
linxehxim_: if you have "zip" then you should have zipsplit00:03
mick__thank you pici00:03
xim_ahh i see00:03
xim_linxeh, thx00:03
mick__first time in here or on irc00:03
mick__in the classrooms tomorrow do you think they will touch dns/ftp setup and lockdown?00:04
linxehmick__: 15+ years of linux, and no IRC ?00:04
gui7ello00:04
revelnickdoes this really have any advantage over the kernel cache? http://talks.php.net/show/acc_php/3500:04
mick__no :-)00:04
mazda01ne1 have successful burns with TDK dvd+r's?00:04
mick__i have mazda yes00:04
linxehmazda01: yup00:04
blakkheim!u | mazda0100:04
ubottumazda01: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' or 'Ur' are words in the English language. Nor are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' or 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.00:04
gui7i'm on a pc; i'd like to triple-boot win7, mac os x, and ubuntu using the grub bootloader. i can't seem to find any complete/proper tutorials using GRUB, anyone know hwo to do this?00:05
linxehmazda01: as many as other brands anyway00:05
mick__i had to switch down to +8 speed though00:05
mick__will mac work with grub?00:05
daftykinsgui7: that's a bit off topic really.00:05
mick__afaik it tries to grab the bootloader00:06
daftykinsmacs use EFI, only bootcamp partition OS's could use GRUB chainloaded i think.00:06
gui7daftykins, is it? i've gotten help with these things here before tho :)00:06
mazda01linxeh, well, i just bought some generic garbage from best buy 25 dvd-r's and they are all bad! i can't believe that not just one dvd burner in my computer went bad, but both????00:06
mick__mazda are they scratched?00:06
gui7perhaps i could delete windows' + mac's own bootloaders and then add in entries to grub?00:07
mick__or if they have been on display they will suffer uv degradation of the plastic too00:07
mick__what about setting up linux as dom0 and running them as VMs with XEN00:07
xim_so how do i get file roller to package up rar files, the file compression link only seems to cover unraring them00:07
bikcmpHello all, I get a error when using make00:08
pen16how long before audio works on Linux without all the problems00:08
pen165 yrs?00:08
mick__sorry xim not too sure it does have plugins as far as i can recall00:08
mazda01gonna buy a new lite-on dh-24aas, anyone else know if that's a re-branded piece of junk, or is it a decent lite-on model? buying from tigerfdirect for $29.9900:08
bikcmphttp://pastebin.com/d6ca8434b00:08
gui7pen16, the million-dollars question :P00:08
sebsebsebpen16: that depends on the distro, how well audio works or doesn't work, to some extent00:09
mick__pen16 I have been using linux with audio for the last 12 at least00:09
mick__no problems :)00:09
Picimazda01: Best to ask in ##hardware for that00:09
mick__I stick to standard cards though00:09
sebsebsebpen16: there are a few ways audio can be done, and it's pulseaudio that is known to get the issues00:09
mazda01Pici, there's a linux hardware channel?00:09
Schuianyone know of a good place to buy ubuntu laptops?00:09
mick__in what country?00:09
mick__Schui, what country?00:10
mazda01Pici, i have been having issues wodim and dvd+rw tools, so i am not even sure I need to buy a new drie but I figure $29.99 isn't bad00:10
sebsebsebpen16: What kind of sound problems you got?00:10
Schuimick_, united states00:10
pen16It may be possible to avoid problems with audio if you are mostly using desktop applications. All I do is music so, I use some audio production apps and therefore they all pretty much use different audio daemons00:10
mick__ah not off the top of my head sorry :-(00:10
xim_can file roller not create rar archives? or anything splitable? it says it only splits 7zip and rar, but cant make either of those types00:10
pen16Not just what the distro ships for basic desktop sound support00:10
mick__I know there is one in the uk alright00:10
pen16So there's all kinds of problems00:10
Schuiwhat is it anyways? :)00:10
pen16basically endless :X00:10
Picimazda01: I'm not familiar with those tools, so I probably can't help. Sorry.00:10
mick__two minutes let me find the ad in the mag00:11
PiciSchui: Dell sells computers with Ubuntu on them. As well as System 76.00:11
pen16sound surely could work for regular ol' programs00:11
mazda01Pici, wodim is what k3b and almost every gui image burning software uses.00:11
Schuity pici00:11
cegorachanybody know an archive format that is compatible with ubuntu and supports larch archive files?00:11
sebsebsebpen16: by default the distro will be using pulseaudio,  which can be disabled some how, don't know how,  and even removed which isn't really a good idea.00:11
pen16sebsebseb: Yes, the regular stuff for the distro is fine, but the "musician programs" aren't under the tight scrutiny of the Ubuntu team to integrated into a regular desktop00:12
pen16they're more undergroundish00:12
gui7if i install windows 7 and then ubuntu, will grub allow me to boot straight into win7 or will i have to  then re-choose windows 7 in 7's own bootloader?00:12
pen16so they all use different sound systems00:12
sebsebsebgui7: Grub will allow both to boot, but Ubuntu will be the default, but that can be changed00:13
pen16some use ESD, some use pulseaudio, some use jack, some use ALSA directly00:13
pen16and you gotta make it all work together to have a functioning music system00:13
sebsebsebgui7: one will automatically load by default, and that one is Ubuntu00:13
mazda01Pici, dvd+rw-tools dvd+rw-tools makes it possible to burn DVD images created by dvdauthor or genisoimage to DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, and DVD-RW00:13
mazda01 disks, replacing cdrecord-proDVD in many cases.00:13
AndorinHey, guys? I'm on 64-bit Karmic. I have the package flashplugin-installer installed, but no Flash in Firefox 3.6. Anyone know why?00:14
mazda01sorry for pasting, i thought it would paste on one line00:14
mick__Schui:  http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/lenovo/00:14
aciculacegorach: bz2+tar ?00:15
mick__for the music stuff think i came across an article sometime ago in ubuntucircle magazine(online free pdf mag devoted to ubuntu)00:15
cegorachacicula: is that windows compatible?00:15
aciculapen16: just pukse and audio will do(or is the default), esd is dead(i hope anyway)00:15
sebsebsebAndorin: not on Ubuntu right now,  so uhmm   3.6 hrm, is that one you installed yourself directly from Mozilla,  or the one that comes in Ubuntu that has been updated?00:15
pen16right now I'm trying to get  PulseAudio, ESD, OSS, ALSA, Jack, to all work together and I it's highly stressful00:16
aciculacegorach: nope, then you have to stick to zip00:16
Andorinsebsebseb: Installed it myself.00:16
aciculapen16: why?00:16
sebsebsebAndorin: ok that's what I thought00:16
pen16i just wanna make music :(00:16
aciculajackal: is for professional stuff00:16
aciculaerr pen1600:16
mick__pen16 see my last post :)00:16
acicula*jack is00:16
cegorachacicula: damn... the files i need to transfer are too big for a zip file, and my install doesn't seem to want to cooperate with openrar00:16
sebsebsebAndorin: ok what you installed probably works in  the other Firefox, tried that?00:17
pen16on windows there's like 2 ways of sound working and every program supports both of them :)00:17
Picipen16: Take a look at the audio section here for a list of music production applications in Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList00:17
aciculacegorach: you can split archives with rar00:17
sebsebsebAndorin: if you would have to install Flash yourself,  and make sure it's in the plugins folder for Firefox 3.6, or something like this00:17
pen16Pici: That list is very mainstream00:17
pen16I use trackers and stuff00:17
pen16things not on the list00:18
sebsebsebAndorin: I think you would... above  (I don't like when I type the wrong words)00:18
cegorachacicula: but when i transfer it to my ubuntu box, the archive opens, but i cant get any of the files to extract from the archive00:18
Andorinsebsebseb: Yes, Flash works in Firefox 3.5. I guess I can poke around and see whether it installed correctly for 3.6.00:18
sebsebsebAndorin: right that's what I am getting at00:18
pen16I'm curious though, is PulseAudio set to become the standard, "for reals this time!" ?00:18
pen16like really00:18
pen16or is there a new project set to replace it already  :X :X00:19
sebsebsebAndorin: what you installed, is  probably only really for  Firefox 3.5  and  other browsers that use the same Flash  that you can get from the repo such as  Galeon and  Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser  just epiphany and a game gets installed)00:19
Andorinsebsebseb: Yeah, I know about Epiphany... I suppose I just figured that my Flash version would be compatible with the new Firefox by default.00:20
sebsebsebpen16: pulseaudio has been the default since Ubuntu 8.0400:21
pen16is it gonna stay though, long term?00:21
sebsebsebpen16: it's also the default  for many other distros now as well00:21
pen1610 years?00:21
pen16what is the Linux equivalent of ASIO?00:21
erdemoztrkHi there00:22
sebsebsebpen16: one of those distros I know pulseaudio can easilly be disabled,  I wonder how that's done in Ubuntu00:22
erUSULpen16: you use jack instead of PA for professional audio and the -rt kernel00:22
pen16erUSUL: what's minimum latency?00:23
sebsebsebAndorin: by the way why did you want to get the other Firefox?00:23
Schuiso i have a question, not really a problem. i remember hearing about people installing games to their external hard drive and then playing off there instead of using up system resources, i wonder if you could do the same in linux?00:23
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chilli0Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help00:24
erUSULpen16: that i dunno maybe you should ask in #ubuntustudio or other more specialized audio on linux forum00:24
sebsebsebSchui: sure, but  playing a game from an external hard drive,  I think might mean it will be a bit slower,  whatever OS is being run00:24
erdemoztrkCan somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code?00:24
Andorinsebsebseb: No particular reason... just wanted to try it out, and stick with it if it worked.00:24
Schuiseb - yeah, it might be slow unless you used usb2.0 or something00:25
erdemoztrkCan somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code00:25
Black_PhantomI have heard that Ubuntu 10.04 will be on a DVD only, is that true ?00:26
erUSULBlack_Phantom: no00:26
sebsebsebAndorin: right, but it probably doesn't offer that much advantage from 3.5, and the next Ubuntu Desktop version will have 3.6 or later by default00:26
sebsebsebBlack_Phantom: no00:26
sebsebsebBlack_Phantom: something about how Kubuntu only fits on a DVD at the moment or something like that, anyway #ubuntu+1 for Lucid stuff00:27
Schuiso do you think you could install windows games to an external and play them on linux?00:27
Black_Phantomoh ok00:27
sebsebsebSchui: Windows games oh right00:27
gui7does grub2 correctly recognize windows7?00:27
sebsebsebSchui: that's good in a way,  means you woudn't have to  put partitiosn such as /usr or whever native Linux programs get installed, onto your external hard disk00:27
chilli0Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help00:27
sebsebsebgui7: should do yes00:28
Schuisebsebseb, do you think it would work? like you could play the games off the external even though they are for windows?00:28
sebsebsebSchui: you would run Windows games, in  Wine, or commercial versions of it,  or  a Windows virtual machine00:28
sebsebsebSchui: quite a lot of these games will work quite well  in Wine, but quite a lot won't work well in Wine, or well they will  after you configured a bit00:28
sebsebsebSchui: ,but configuring isn't easy00:29
Schuiyeah i tried to install ut2004, it was too much of a pain so i gave up00:29
DaZisn't ut2k4 for linux?00:29
sebsebsebSchui: by default Wine puts it's hidden .wine folder in  Home00:29
DaZ>:00:29
Schuiyeah daz, but i couldnt get sound to work00:30
Schuiseb, i will have to try this :)00:30
aciculasebsebseb: gstreamer-properties lets you change whats used by gnome00:30
chilli0Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help00:30
DaZSchui: echo $SDL_AUDIODRIVER00:30
aciculaSchui: external disks work, but USB limits transfer speed significantly00:31
sebsebsebSchui:  the .wine folder you should be able to use from an external hard disk, as far as I know.   I think you would just then have to tell wine config where  .wine is located.  and point any wine program shorcuts to your external hard disk, or something like this.   Anyway #winehq  is a good channel to be asking Wine questions.00:31
googleitok so my bluetooth doesnt work00:31
woltergoogleit00:31
googleitbluez wont read my adapter00:31
sebsebsebSchui: plus you can open wine programs up  using the terminal00:31
googleitblueman doesnt resolve the problem00:31
grendal_primeis anyone having a problem with 910 just freezing?00:32
grendal_primeim wondering if it has anything to do with ext400:32
aciculagoogleit: is there a hci device? check with hciconfig00:32
mick__not for me on intel hardware00:32
mick__in fact 910 best for my laptop since 70400:32
googleiti have logitech00:32
sebsebsebacicula: oh right pen16  wants to know that00:32
googleit2.0 edr00:32
JasonrjI tried the Ubuntu live CD, then I rebooted into Win7 again and now my clock is 4 hours off. Also, while booting it did a checkdisk for some reason and had probably a few hundred errors that it fixed no problem.. IS that normal?00:33
googleitmy usb is reading it00:33
grendal_primeya this would be intel, 32bit, laptop.  It was running 804 with no problems.00:33
mick__what timezone was the cd using?00:33
grendal_primebut if i fire up anthing that requires any hd access on a large scale it freezes00:34
mick__grendal:: initially yes, but then after about a month they got the xserver sorted properly00:34
JasonrjI don't know, it didn't ask me for a time-zone, I didn't notice the clock was messed up though until I rebooted.00:34
mick__for this reason I am going to be very very very very slow to upgrade to 10.0400:34
erUSULchilli0: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.00:34
erUSULchilli0: run the command the error told you to run00:35
chilli0erUSUL, Did you read the pb ?00:35
mick__sounds like it could be a heating problem00:35
chilli0I ran it00:35
mick__i get that when i used it on the duvet too from time to time :)00:35
chilli0erUSUL, Line 900:36
erUSULchilli0: ok; tried purging the problematic pavkage?00:36
mick__grendal::  or your hard disk could be dying, have you tried running a giagnostic?00:36
erUSULchilli0: the kernel in that case?00:36
grendal_primemick__: well i just downloaded this iso the other night, and there were no more updates to it, so Is it possible to just install on ext300:36
chilli0erUSUL,  Its any packeges00:36
googleitacicula how do i use hciconfig00:36
chilli0erUSUL,  Ill reinstall ubuntu00:37
googleitto activate my bluetooth00:37
erUSULchilli0: no is linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic00:37
mick__yes it is00:37
DaZgrendal_prime: filesystem doesn't usually freeze an operating system.00:37
aciculagoogleit: you type it in a console00:37
googleitha thanks i figured that part00:37
erUSULchilli0: try this first « sudo apt-get clean && sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:37
googleitbut i reset or restart it and i get it cant open device00:37
aciculagoogleit: means no driver loaded00:38
chilli0erUSUL,  If I have /home on a seperate partion and only format / will I lose all emails00:38
mick__best wishes to all time for me to call it a night at almost 1am here00:38
googleitah00:38
erUSULchilli0: evolution?00:38
chilli0Yepp00:38
mazda01trying to set dvd drive to pio mode so i can flash the firmware to make sure the drive is dead and not just incompatible media. anyone know how to help. I cam getting this error: hdparm -d /dev/hda00:38
mazda01HDIO_SET_PIO_MODE failed: Operation not permitted00:39
erUSULmazda01: are you sure the dvd drive is /dev/hda?00:39
mazda01erUSUL, no, that was a mistake. the drive is /dev/sg000:39
chilli0erUSUL,  Yes00:40
erUSULmazda01:  /dev/sr0 ?00:40
erUSULchilli0: no it shoud be all in your home. you can make a backup there is an option in File menu to do it00:41
mazda01erUSUL, yes, i tried all of the above. /dev/scd0, /dev/sg0, /dev/sr0, and /dev/dvd, and /dev/dvdrw00:41
erUSULmazda01: hdparm does not work on libata devices afaik00:41
mazda01erUSUL, all say the same thing00:41
erUSULmazda01: you will have to use a kernel option i think00:41
mazda01erUSUL, huh? since when. I have set the dma mode on my drives and that worked fine.00:41
mazda01erUSUL, using hdparm00:42
erUSULmazda01: since the change to libata00:42
erUSUL!libata00:42
neil_dmazda01: are you running hdparm as root?00:43
mazda01erUSUL, really, how stupid. why did they go and do that? you mean that hdparm just has been updated to work with the new libata driver? yes, running as rooty00:43
mazda01rooty = root00:43
saxofonerHi everyone. I was trying to fix sound on my new 9.10 install, and I installed linux backports alsa karmic generic, and when I rebooted, I was stuck in low graphics mode. Then my graphics card started overheating. I've always run the nvidia drivers just fine. I would normally reconfigure xconfig but that's not there anymore, so I'll try anything00:43
neil_dmazda01: if you do "ls /dev/hda*" do you see all the partitions?00:44
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mazda01neil_d, i don't even have any "hda" drives, only "sda"00:45
Random832i got gnome-shell - is there any way to add applets to it - i've got battery, volume, and wireless, but none of my other icons00:46
mazda01neil_d, if I issue  ls /dev/sda* and yes. i see all my partitions. but I am trying to solve the pio mode for a dvd drive. so I can flash the firmware00:46
erUSULmazda01: the parameter is libata.force=<device>:pio<number>   where device is number in my case « dmesg | grep ATAPI » gives ata6.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, 1.01, max UDMA/33 so the number is 6.00 then pio can be pio0 to pio700:48
erUSULmazda01: so "libata.force=6.00:pio7" for example00:48
erUSULmazda01: but the question is... do you have the firmware flasher for linux ?00:49
erUSULsaxofoner: maybe you just need to reinstall the drivers ?00:50
neil_dmazda01: when I tried to run hdparm on my dvd with "hdparm /dev/sr0" It gave an error of "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" so maybe hdparm doesn't work on cdrom etc.00:52
saxofonererUSUL: I suppose I'll try dpkg reconfigure, and then I'll reinstall nvidia drivers. but why would installing sound backport drivers mess up my graphics00:52
saxofonerrhetorical question of course00:52
mordofok, this is one thing i'm not used to struggling with.  I installed 9.10 on a computer of mine (older comp), there's no xorg.conf, and dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has no effect.. i can't find how to tell it to use 1280x768 resolution..00:52
mordofI made an xorg.conf with the monitor/screen in it with that, but it didn't take00:53
saxofonermordof: xorg.conf is gone forever, sadly00:53
mordof; ; ok.. so what do i do instead?00:53
Ademansaxofoner: what? xorg.conf is OPTIONAL last i heard...00:54
Kevin147I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!00:54
mordofi went to x.org, and it showed that it looks for the xorg.conf in that area00:55
mordofso my guess is it's still optional00:55
saxofonerOh really? Cool, I remember trying to do something that I thought I knew how to do and not being able to do it the old way through xorg. Maybe it's still there for certain things00:56
mordofi don't know any other means to configure my monitor though00:56
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psvastihow do i check for viruses?  i tried to log on to undernet and it g-lined me saying i was infected00:57
daftykinspsvasti: it was probably just a joke.00:57
psvastino no, it happened nearly instantly00:58
neil_dmordof: I use the menu "System->Preferences->Display"00:58
talI'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?00:58
mordofneil_d: that doesn't work, it's not recognizing the resolution size00:58
daftykinspsvasti: keep reconnecting 'til you get a different server00:58
psvastiAUTO [1] Infected with a virus or trojan, please clean your system. Cleaner @ http://www.moosoft.com (P321).00:59
mordofneil_d: i need to force it to use 1280x768, right now it's only letting me use 800x600 and 640x48000:59
ChibaPetHey all. Quick question: Is there a way for me to enable a hardware bell instead of having a sound file played for my terminal bell, say, in Gnome Terminal?00:59
neil_dpsvasti: all web-bassed virus checks are invalid.. and try to get you to install spyware.00:59
Kevin147I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!00:59
psvastidifferent server, same message00:59
IAmEpic 01:00
ChibaPet(I want to let the system beep at me several times in a row, but the soundfile-based beeps all seem somewhat "rate limited".)01:00
Trek 01:00
Flare-LaptopTrek: o.O01:00
Trekwow, sorry, i accidentially hit the spacebar01:00
talAny ideas?01:00
ChibaPetAnyone have clues for me? :)01:00
Treki'm messing with my hardware, makes it hard when I bump the keyboard01:00
Flare-LaptopTrek: Ahh ok01:00
Flare-LaptopKevin147: We'll help ya01:01
mordofAnyone able to help me get ubuntu to recognize (or force it) the resolution 1280x768?01:01
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Kevin147Flare-Laptop, ok01:01
neil_dmordof: what type of video card do you have?01:01
daftykinsand what driver is currently in use? ^01:01
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mordofneil_d: i don't know. it's a computer i was given. i'm not sure what video card driver is installed in the tower either >.<;01:01
ChibaPetAlright, back to Google.01:02
mordofneil_d: it's onboard.. nothing worthy of trying for any good drivers01:02
* mordof checks the motherboard.01:02
afromanhello. I  have installed the alsa upgrade script now nothing works.01:03
neil_dmordof: can you find it in the output of "lspci"01:03
mordofneil_d: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)01:04
daftykinserk intel 845G01:04
mordofdaftykins: don't worry, i'm setting it up for my dad - simple office use, lol01:05
daftykinsnah i just have no idea if you could get that to do anything sensible with karmic01:05
mordofdaftykins: surely it's still possible to force a resolution though..01:05
mordofat least i'm hoping.. lol01:06
daftykinsmordof: i'm sure it is with manual xorg.conf hax, with modelines and some such01:06
Dr_Willismordof:  for many nvidia cards ive had - i HAVE to use teh nvidia drivers for it to properly detect the res of the monitors01:06
mordofDr_Willis: you don't have to properly detect the resolution of monitors..01:07
Dr_Willismordof:   but with intel - most of those are built in.01:07
Dr_Willismordof:  with many of my Nvidia machines. they use the wrong res. I install the nvidia drivers and they detect teh res properly. its been this way for at least 5 machines ive worked with in the past.01:07
talI'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?01:07
talI.e. what are their names?01:08
Dr_Willismordof:  you may want to check the Intel video wiki page/forum threads.01:08
neil_dmordof: don't know what to do now... sorry!  maybe you search for the chipset number and find out something.01:08
mordofDr_Willis: i'm going to google it.. but again, you don't need it to detect the resolution itself - that's what xorg.conf is for01:08
daftykinsyou do for nvidia hardware because then it detects the *precise* mode01:09
mazda01erUSUL, yes I do, people have written it. it's called necflash01:09
daftykinsjust resolution isn't enough01:09
Dr_Willismordof:   ive not had to have res information in xorg.conf in ages.01:09
mordofah01:09
Dr_Willistal:  try   gnome-appearance-properties01:09
Dr_Willistal:  what version of ubuntu you using anyway>01:09
talDr_Willis, it's based (very deep  down now ;)) on 9.0401:11
doofyI just installed ubuntu on a partition of my macbook pro. I have refit on here and I have rescanned the partition table, but ubuntu isnt showing up. How can I get this to boot?01:11
Adman65I'm using ubuntu server, I created a new user using useradd but now that use has no bash completion01:12
talDr_Willis, I don;t have that =/01:12
Sky[x]how to turn monitor ON over SSH without X, keyboard, mouse ?01:12
talI just need the program that edits the GDM settings01:12
Dr_Willistal:  No idea then. thats the tool that contriolls the gnome themes.   gdm in 9.10 is different so i dont know the tool name for that.01:12
DARKGuyhm, is there any IRC console program which allows the channels to be switched with the mouse when under X?01:13
talDr_Willis, Damn. ah well, thanks a lot!01:13
Dr_Willistal:  install 'ubuntu-desktop' perhaps it will pull it in.01:14
Dr_Willis!gdm01:14
Dr_Willistal:  or check the repos for a gdm specific config tool.01:14
Adman65hmm, any reason why /etc/skel is empty ?01:15
Dr_WillisAdman65:  check for .Files withs ls -al01:15
mordofthis is so not going to be fun...01:15
Dr_WillisAdman65:  i only have 4 files in it here.01:15
nonameNNAdman65: why would it be full of files?01:15
mtx_initi had a freind in hs named tal01:16
Adman65Forgot they were .files01:16
Adman65carry on01:16
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neil_dI am currently downloading 9.10 but why does this stop firefox working?  shouldn't the packet from wget and firefox have the same priority in the tcp stack?01:16
Adman65hmm, new user can't find `source` command prompt is only a $01:17
mtx_initneil_d: wget is usually faster, given its smaller size01:17
mordofoh great, the patch needed to allow 1280x768 came up with a 404 -.-;01:18
Dr_Williswhat shell are you using? source is a bash built in i thought or do . whateverscript01:18
Adman65Dr_Willis: bash01:18
KamokowI was installing another language, through language support. And it uninstalled edubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu 9.10 install. Is this normal? I didnt think so D:01:18
Dr_WillisAdman65:  its a bash built in. so either theres somthing very weird going on.. or bash is not the shell.. check echo $SHELL01:20
talDr_Willis, I never had gnome - I had openbox, now I'm removing it in favour or xnomad01:20
talmtx_init, My full name is Taliesen01:20
Adman65Dr_Willis: doh. /bin/sh01:20
Dr_Willistal:   thats the problem wih doing things like that. You have to learn how all these parts work01:20
Dr_WillisAdman65:  :)01:20
Adman65i guess you have to explicity set it with useradd01:21
Dr_Willisi always use adduser :)01:21
neil_dmtx_init: so what difference should that make.. how could that stop firefox?01:21
Adman65Dr_Willis: is that a debian thing ?01:21
mtx_inittal: oh ok, tal is a Israeli girls name.  I think it means the morning dew on a leaf.01:21
KamokowOh, nevermind my previous question, it was my fault.01:22
Dr_WillisAdman65:  never noticed.. ive used adduser for years..01:22
mtx_initneil_d: something is wrong with firefox, possible sudo apt-get remove firefox, then purge and reinstall01:22
Adman65Dr_Willis: *shrug*, I've always used useradd01:22
talmtx_init, Haha, I'm british =)01:24
objornhow do i enable ctl-alt-backspace?01:24
gabriel__Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?01:24
objorn!ctl-alt-backspace01:24
zagabarOkay, I had some problems with my ICS. I am trying to share internet to my network from my ubuntu server. I also use it as a mail server. I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing    After making these commands: http://pastebin.com/m380851ae I cannot log in to squirrelmail nor with firebird anymore. It says "User not found" or "connection refused". Its ports are still ope01:25
arandobjorn: You can use alt+sysreq+k instead01:26
arand!dontzap | objorn01:26
ubottuobjorn: To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap01:26
gabriel__Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?01:27
meganerdzagabar: is your lan on the 192.168.0.0/24 network?01:28
neil_darand: do you know why it was disabled in the first place?  I found it useful01:28
MTecknologyAnybody know how I can allow root login through gdm from the command line?01:28
DaZMTecknology: by editing gdm config files.01:28
kc8pxyi am i'm trying to use minicom to access my cisco router via console. it doesn't seem to like me trying to use it with /dev/ttyS0 ..   how else do i acceess the comport?01:28
MTecknologyDaZ: which file though?01:29
DaZeh :f01:29
MTecknologyBacktrack is based on Ubuntu now and I don't want to create an additional user for that purpose - since half the tools need to be run as root anyway..01:29
zagabarmeganerd: I don't have a lan yet. That's what I was trying to configure. And I was aiming to have it on that network yes.01:29
kc8pxyon my hardy system that is01:29
neil_dMTecknology: I think all you need to do is give root a password... using "passwd".. but it is dangerous.. you can use "sudo -i" to get a root terminal.01:30
meganerdzagabar: are those the only 3 rules you have?01:30
arandneil_d: because it was too easily reachable and would loose an unsuspecting user all open data.01:30
DaZneil_d: and you're wrong.01:30
MTecknologyneil_d: read the note about backtrack :)01:31
MTecknologyDaZ: I found one option for it, AllowRootLogin; but that didn't change it.. I'll just add a user for it01:31
neil_dDaZ: about what?01:32
* kc8pxy needs to RTFM more often for ubuntu.. it's simpler for the user that expects a lego-like system. put the right blocks in place and it works.01:32
DaZneil_d: logging in as root in gdm needs a little more effort.01:32
wolterk01:32
kc8pxyyou just need to know what blocks are for what.01:32
zagabarmeganerd: No, I have these too: http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d  Those nat rules01:33
neil_dDaZ: ok01:33
wolterhi, sometimes after i wake up my computer from suspend, Xorg starts using like 17% of the processor.. what could be happening?01:33
MTecknologyneil_d: not something the normal system should EVER do - but in the case of a system like this it's basically mandatory01:34
zagabarhttp://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d How can I remove these POSTROUTING rules?01:36
meganerdzagabar: I am about to head home now, so I can't really look at this further.  You may want to look at fwbuilder on a GUI machine, and then check out the rules it makes.01:36
almostdvsso, I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu installation, and on restart it says it cant find something and drops to a shell, can anyone help?01:36
zagabarmeganerd: Okay. Thanks anyway.01:36
meganerdzagabar: I have never looked at that Ubuntu internet connection sharing script so I can't really comment on that01:36
meganerdzagabar: to be honest I have been writing my own rules from scratch for a while.  An easier connection sharing approach might be to install Arno's iptables scripts, a few of my friends seem to like it01:37
neil_dif I use a raid1 setup.. once grub is configured correctly.. I should be able to turn the computer off, remove any drive, and have it still boot correctly?01:40
zagabarmeganerd: I see. That might be a good starter to get some understanding. However I have no problems getting the ICS to work, the problem is that when it is active, it somehow disables the mail service programs.01:40
syriushow do I share a cd/dvd drive over network?01:41
wolterXorg is using up like 20% of my processor, what could it be?01:41
objornhow can i restore the default xorg.config?01:41
objornor have it reconfigured?01:41
syriusmaybe 3d graphics or not very good graphics card maybe01:41
syriustry turning off 3d desktop acceleration wolter01:42
woltersyrius, it uses more, like 40% if i do that01:42
wolter(cause GPU is handling my desktop with compiz... with metacity it will be my CPU)01:42
wolterbut anyway, this only happens after i wake my computer up from suspend01:42
wolternormally, how much cpu should Xorg use?01:43
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objornsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what i was looking for01:45
TheMozartobjorn: yes01:46
objornty internet01:46
zagabarAnyone knows how to delete the POSTROUTING rules here? http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d01:49
meowbuntuhi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.01:50
Dr_WillisI thought everything in 'ubuntu-studio' came from  the normal repos. and perhaps medibuntu01:51
nukeslionhello, i have updated my video driver to the latest nvidia one because the last one wasn't working properly, now my sound devices are not appearing01:51
Maczimuskubuntu-desktop has the kubuntu packages01:51
objorni can't sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server01:51
melfythere a disk free space panel item for ubuntu for external drives etc?01:52
objornxorg-server isn't an option :\01:52
* nukeslion goes to try rebooting01:52
ZiberAlright, so I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 server. No matter what I do, I cant seem to get internet. I *know* my router gives out DHCP, but my box cant see to get it. And I know its physically connected properly because I had windows xp pro installed, which worked fine, with internet. Any ideas?01:54
Dr_WillisZiber:  state the connection type. Wired or wireless..01:54
Ziberwired01:54
Dr_Willisthat is odd.01:54
Ziberindeed.01:54
mobi-sheepZiber: Pastebin "lshw -c network"01:55
Dr_Willistry 'sudo dhclient' and see if it grabs the ip. try pinging the router also.01:55
Ziberlshw -c network returned nothing. and i cant ping the router.01:55
chetnickmy grub menu is filling up with every new version of kernel. I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 which uses new GRUB2. How do i get rid of all this entries? Thanks.01:55
Dr_WillisZiber:  has any live cd's worked with networking?01:55
Dr_Willisdouble check the cables also. :) had the dog chew one up on me..01:56
Ziberuhm, i tried one, and no, i dont recall it working.01:56
mobi-sheepZiber: "lshw -c network" return nothing? Meh. It don't see the network card if you're saying that.01:56
Ziberyes, it returned nothing.01:56
Dr_WillisZiber:  that is very very odd then, Hmm any idea what NIC you got?01:57
unopchetnick, remove the old kernel packages?? only after you are sure the new one works well for you -- that's importasnt01:57
millertimek1a2m3there was an old mouse game that I used to play on the computer (windows) you started off inside a bunch of squares that you could push, and there were cats on the outside01:57
unopimportant*01:57
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millertimek1a2m3ah crap off topic01:57
Ziberno, not off hand, no. "lshw" returned an "ethernet device" tho. so it sees it... :o01:57
chetnickunop: remove from /boot ? and run update-grub?01:57
millertimek1a2m3where's the off topic channel again?01:57
onetinsoldier#ubuntu-ot01:57
unopchetnick, no, remove from your package manager. synaptic or apt-get, etc01:57
Dr_WillisZiber:  could be theres some kernel module youi need to load. How old is this machine?01:58
Dr_Willismillertimek1a2m3:  ive played tjhat game in wine i recall. :) but i forget its name01:58
ZiberDr_Willis: the machine is about 2 years old, i think. maybe a bit more...01:58
millertimek1a2m3Dr_Willis: you know what i'm talking about?01:58
Dr_WillisZiber:  see if dmesg output mentions the network cards at all. i had a Marvell NIC that the kernel dident like too well01:59
Dr_Willisif windows was handy - it may be usefull to boot back to windows and sewe what drivers/name it calls the card.02:00
psycho_oreosmarvell has their own driver however, named skg02:01
gmachine_24Greetings Earthlings, esp. Dr_Willis. When I run fsck on a hard drive identified with a UUID, do I specify the (unmounted) drive/partition by a path such as /media/drivename or by its UUID? I attempted with the path, i.e. fsck /media/100GB but got: fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=xxxxx'02:01
objornneed help dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work :\02:01
objornit just goes to the next line02:02
objorn..when i type that in02:02
afromanhow do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference02:02
ZiberDr_Willis: what can i search for in /var/log/dmesg to see if it found NIC?02:03
syriusis this safe to use? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260502:03
Dr_Willisdmesg | grep PATTERN02:03
Dr_WillisZiber:  not sure what pattern to sue02:03
syriusapt-get install brain02:04
frederick85hi i'm wondering how I can get some effects to add reverb to my mic playing live over skype or something02:04
syriusapt-get install HDtv02:04
Out_Cold!info brain > Out_Cold02:04
Dr_Willissyrius:  that guide does seem to be 3 yrs old02:04
syriusapt-get install $$$$02:04
gmachine_24Ok, so I realized that, since the drive/partition is not mounted, /media/xxxdrivename is not going to work.02:04
ZykoticK9Ziber, if you want to find your NIC use "lspci | grep -i network"02:04
gmachine_24any help?02:04
Dr_Willissyrius:  but the basics of it are the same. You may want to backup the origianl samba smb.cfg file  befor doing major changes to it02:05
almostdvsso I'm upgrading my friends ubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?02:05
Ziber"lspci | grep -i network" returned nothing.02:05
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  Mount the drive?02:05
meowbuntuhi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.02:05
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  you fsck UNMOUNTED filesystems02:05
Out_ColdDr_Willis, that's always a problem with the forums... I still find fixes for 6.0402:05
Ziberwith lspci, i see "bridge: ... ethernet" tho02:06
ZykoticK9Ziber, just to double check try "lspci | grep -i Ethernet"02:06
gmachine_24Dr_Willis - I know. That's what I said.02:06
afromananybody? how do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference02:06
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  fsck /dev/wghatever02:06
ZiberZykoticK9: that found it.02:06
mobi-sheepafroman: at least, is gnome-volume-control installed?02:06
Ziber00:11.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)02:07
afromanmobi-sheep: no, I don't think so02:07
mazda01tried to enable the libata.force parameter for setting pio mode but it didnt' work. erUSUL suggested i try this: libata.force=1.00:pio7   where 1.00 is the ata number of the dvd drive after running dmesg | grep ATAPI. I get this: ata1.00: ATAPI: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A, 1.02, max UDMA/66. BUT, when I look at dmesg after booting up, i see this; ata: failed to parse force parameter "1" (unknown value)02:08
mobi-sheepafroman: You're not sure? What does the line say for "aptitude search gnome-volume-control"?02:08
ZykoticK9Ziber, i'm no help to you BUT - typically you'd see "00:00:00 Ethernet controller: blah blah blah..." have any idea why it says Bridge?02:08
ZiberZykoticK9: no, i dont.02:09
mobi-sheepafroman: Err, hold on.02:09
millertimek1a2m3hey i just downloaded a jar fiel02:09
millertimek1a2m3file** how do i run it?02:09
millertimek1a2m3double clicking it only opens up the archive manager02:09
gmachine_24Dr_Willis, yes, I did that. I get the same error msg each time - "The superblock could not be read ... " etc. tried alternative e2fsck -b 8193 <device> and that failed as well.02:09
meowbuntuanyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os02:09
Blue1what a hassle...02:09
gmachine_24I will restart the comp and try again.02:09
millertimek1a2m3never mind02:09
gmachine_24Thank you.02:09
Out_ColdHas anyone locked down their nfs 'status' port while attempting nfs firewall rules? Or does anyone have an active /etc/init.d/nfs-commons script running??02:09
Out_Cold** scrtipt in 9.1002:10
mobi-sheepafroman: Try running "gnome-volume-control" in the terminal.02:10
meowbuntumobi-sheep, he would be better to run alsamixer right02:11
ZykoticK9Ziber, this was from a very old post but might still be worth a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/02:11
meowbuntumobi-sheep, or he could install gnome-alsamixer (frount end for alsamixer which is better)02:11
mobi-sheepmeowbuntu: Not at all. He have no sound issues. Just missing few things from menus.02:11
afromanmobi-sheep: it's there02:12
CVirusOut_Cold: I haven't found a solution yet by the way :-D02:12
afromanmeowbuntu: I also did install gnome alsamixer02:12
Out_ColdCVirus, well i feel better knowing i'm not alone..02:12
meowbuntuafroman, you have to use gnome-alsamixer as alsamixer now wont work itself02:13
Out_Coldtime for a new paste i guess02:13
mobi-sheepafroman: Okay. You were doing something that results the disappearance of that menu. You could add it via System --> Prefs --> Main Menu.02:13
CVirusOut_Cold: I was talking about yesterday's problem02:13
Out_Coldoh...02:13
Out_Coldi lose track of those i talk to02:13
CVirusOut_Cold: XVirus02:13
CVirusOut_Cold: I want to prevent users from mouting USB flash disks using nautilus's side pane02:14
meowbuntuanyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os02:14
zagabarCan someone please explain the meaning of this rule: sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE02:14
Out_ColdCVirus, unless i scanned the logs, i couldn't even remember my name yesterday :(02:14
macomeowbuntu: ther IS NO kubuntu repo separate from ubuntu's repo02:14
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CVirusOut_Cold: it's okay :-D02:14
macomeowbuntu: there is simply a kubuntu-desktop package found in the same repo02:14
macomeowbuntu: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, mythbuntu, lubuntu, and ubuntu studio all share the same repos02:15
meowbuntumac9416, there is actually i install kubuntu-desktop right02:15
CVirusGuys, anyone has any clue how can I prevent users from mounting USB flash disks using nautilus side pane ?02:15
meowbuntuthen to add ubuntu studio i would add02:15
macomeowbuntu: kubuntu-desktop is a package, not a repo. and yes, you should be able to install ubuntu-studio-desktop at the same time02:15
Treblais the ATI video card recomended over nvidia?02:15
Out_Coldzagabar, what's your POSTROUTING rules all say? that takes packets and masquerades them then send them forward to another IP address I think02:15
macomeowbuntu: if you cannot, then you've found a bug02:16
afromanmeowbuntu: hey. mobi left. do you mind helping me to the end?02:16
meowbuntuevery version has something similar to this right http://ubuntuce.com/convert.htm02:16
Out_Coldit's amazing how much I've learned about iptables trying to fix my one random port.02:16
zagabarOut_Cold: Another ip? What ip? That is the only rule.  The thing with that rule is when I am adding it. Then I cannot use my services that are used for checking mail. Like squirrelmail or thunderbird.02:16
Out_Coldzagabar, are you adding it by yourself??02:17
almostdvsso I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?02:17
zagabarOut_Cold: Yeah, I am just pasting that line in a terminal and pressing enter.02:18
frederick85Hi i'm trying to figure out if there is a way to add sound effect to my microphone to use on skype and things like that that take the mic02:18
zagabarOut_Cold: Then squirrelmail starts failing02:18
Out_Coldzagabar, what are you trying to do? have a link?02:18
meowbuntuafroman, with what02:18
afromanmeowbuntu: sound. I still can't find it in the main menu. however I see Multimedia System selector02:19
MajoraHow do I resize partitions? I was told to use gparted but I can't figure out how to actually use it. ._.;02:19
ZykoticK9Trebla, No NO and NO!  I'd avoid ATI if I where you02:19
zagabarOut_Cold: Following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing   My server has eth0 connected to internet and eth1 to other computers and I want to make it share the connection with them. The guide works for that, but it also kills squirrelmail and ability to connect to the server with thunderbird. Other services as ampache and ftp, ssh etc are still intact though.02:19
Out_ColdMajora, what are you trying to resize? what type? and is it already mounted?02:20
meowbuntuafroman, i am actually in studio atm so might not get it exactly right02:20
Majoraext3 part that has ubuntu on it... and I'm gonna say yes?02:20
almostdvsso I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?02:20
meowbuntuafroman, open a terminal and type this sound02:20
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meowbuntuthat should open up the sound settings02:21
mazda01can anyone help me set my dvd drive to anyh pio mode so i can flash the firmware using necflash for linux? i have tried libata.force=1.00:pio7  but it didn't work, hdparm -I /dev/sg0 still says drive is in DMA mode and the necflash fails with Error submitting checksum02:21
MajoraOut_Cold: ext3 ubuntu part, already mounted. I just want to make it smaller.02:21
ZykoticK9meowbuntu, no "sound" command on my Ubuntu 9.10???02:21
Out_ColdMajora, unmount it first02:22
meowbuntumazda01, maby instaling the restricted extras will work(some countries this may be illegal) in terminal install ubuntu-restricted-extras02:22
MajoraOut_Cold: how? sorry, I don't usually have to fiddle with ubuntu this much. x.x;02:22
* tiger2wander is away: Away02:22
meowbuntumazda01, sorry type this  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras02:23
Trek!away > tiger2wander02:23
ubottutiger2wander, please see my private message02:23
syriuscool02:23
mazda01meowbuntu, do you even know what you're trying to help me with? sorry, i don't mean to be rude but I am trying to set a libata.force option in the kernel boot line. what does that have to do with restricyed formats at all?02:23
syriusI see what to do now02:23
Out_ColdMajora, can you paste me the contents of sudo fdisk -l   and mount    Run both from terminal please02:23
afromanmeowbuntu: it didn't work. check my message02:24
CVirusHow can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?02:24
Out_Cold!pastebin > Majora02:24
ubottuMajora, please see my private message02:24
almostdvsdoes ubuntu now delete the old kernels after an update or just clean up the grub menu?02:24
meowbuntumazda01, you said you had problems with dvd player right02:24
syriusso ; and # is a comment that is not run in a conf file?02:24
MajoraOut_Cold: Hmm... wasn't expecting it to be this complicated. I will BRB then while I boot into ubuntu. xD02:24
IdleOnealmostdvs: you have to delete the old kernels yourself02:24
exigraffquestion - I have a symlink in /etc/network/if-up.d, pointing to a script that authenticates me to my uni's network. the script runs on ifup if there's a gdm session open, but not on ifup when the machine boots. any ideas?02:24
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Out_ColdCVirus, you said you used mtab for your script?02:25
mazda01meowbuntu-afk, i am trying to flash the firmware, which has nothing to do with enabling the restricted formats. thanks for trying though02:25
mazda01brb02:25
almostdvsIdleOne: can i still boot into the old ones from grub, the upgrade is not going over well02:25
IdleOnealmostdvs: yes, your old kernel should still be in the grub menu02:26
Out_Coldzagabar, what's the rule directly before that one?02:26
CVirusOut_Cold: no I didn't but I found an entry there for sdb102:26
meowbuntu-afkafroman, just a last minute thing please ask to pm first before doing it its polite02:26
Out_ColdCVirus, can i see the script?02:27
afromanmeowbuntu-afk: sorry. didn't know02:27
almostdvsIdleOne: (i'm not in grub now obviously) but the only kernels i saw were for the new upgrade and the recovery mode.  is there an option where i can see more...02:27
CVirusOut_Cold: sure give me a sec02:27
IdleOnealmostdvs: grub2 or grub?02:28
almostdvsIdleOne: i'm assuming grub02:28
afromanmeowbuntu-afk: nothing still02:28
almostdvsIdleOne: this is a friends computer that i was upgradeing02:28
IdleOne!grub | almostdvs02:28
ubottualmostdvs: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.02:28
IdleOnealmostdvs: check the previous links for more info02:28
CVirusOut_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m7693ffe3 the above is the mount script and the other is the unmount script02:29
afromanmeowbuntu-afk: shall I pm or shall we stay in the main window?02:29
MajoraOut_Cold: What were those terminal commands again?02:30
Out_ColdMajora, sudo fdisk -l and mount02:30
Out_ColdCVirus, let me test a few things out and check back02:31
CVirusOut_Cold: sure02:32
MajoraOut_Cold, http://pastebin.com/d4ed1b13a02:32
cpareHello - Can someone help me with an "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" error02:33
Out_ColdMajora, so dev/sda6 you want to shrink how much?02:33
Out_Coldcpare, try another server02:34
Out_Coldthere is a list option in repositories i think02:34
ZykoticK9cpare, system / Administration / Software sources -- then change the "download from:" dropdown02:34
MajoraOut_Cold, it is currently about 70 GiB, I want to make it 25.02:35
cpareThanks Out_Cold & ZykotickS - trying it now02:35
almostdvsIdleOne: is that most likely the problem, if I was just trying a normal upgrade and now it can't find root02:36
Out_ColdMajora, fair enough. now you have to resize while the partition is unmounted. so do you have a live cd/usb?02:36
Majorano CD, but I have a USB handy... would probably have to download something though02:36
CVirusOut_Cold: if only I could prevent the devkit daemon from detecting the devices02:37
cpareOut_Cold - ZykoticK9 - Changing the repository to the master did the trick, Thanks for the suggestion, who would have thought the US Repository would fail like that...02:39
Out_ColdMajora, yes. it would have been easier if you had originally created a few small partitions and kept one big one for /home or file storage. But default installs make one big / partition. You need to download an iso image and use unetbootin to make. then while using the live usb, /dev/sda6 is unmounted you resize in gparted02:40
MajoraOut_Cold, no CD, have a USB handy. Though nothing on it partition-relevant.02:40
Out_Coldcpare, probably server overload02:40
meowbuntu-afk  hi how can i uninstall oss sound again02:41
meowbuntu-afkafroman, needs to know how to uninstall oss02:41
MajoraOut_Cold, can I just delete the partition and remake another? i.e. would that be easier than editing the existing partition.02:42
Out_ColdMajora, no not really. resizing means you don't have to re-install everything.02:43
chetnickresizing can be little tricky, depending on your partition layout.02:44
Out_Coldchetnick, it's the last partition02:44
wasutton3is there a way to set up a global proxy toggle so that i can alternate between a proxy and a direct internet connection?02:46
ZiberSo nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?02:46
Out_ColdMajora, if you resized to 10 gb for ubuntu and made one more partition for files, you could mount it both in windows and ubuntu.02:46
MajoraOut_Cold, Well, I should probably resize the swap partition. in my n00bishness I made it waaaay too huge. c.c02:47
HinataMajora: how huge?02:47
MajoraHinata, like five gigabytes huge.02:48
* Majora QQ's02:48
Out_Coldwell Majora if you were to spend the extra time, then a proper partition plan and a fresh install would do you better02:48
MajoraLike I said, n00b xD02:48
Out_ColdMajora, a nice starting layout would be 2xram for swap, 8-12 gb for / and whatever else for /home02:49
CVirusOut_Cold: any clue man ?02:49
HinataMajora: I'm not sure how good it is but I've heared at plenty of place that it was "good to have twice as much space in swap than you have of RAM memorie (2gb of swap for 1gm of RAM) now I don't know if it's true though02:49
Out_ColdCVirus, i need to go find a usb still02:49
CVirusOut_Cold: if you're living nearby I can pass one by :-p02:50
ZiberSo nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?02:51
HinataOut_Cold: where does that 2x ramp = swap come from? I mean... if you have 8gb of ram... the swap shouldn't be used too much right?02:52
Out_ColdCVirus, i had like 10 of them downstairs but that's 2 flights of stairs. just had to get motivated :p02:52
syriushow do I restart samb in ubuntu?02:52
Jeruvysyrius: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart02:52
syriusafter I make changes so that it is reconized right away02:52
Out_Coldsyrius, possibly sudo /etc/init.d..... ^^^02:53
afromanhow do I get sound preferences back?02:53
CVirusOut_Cold: I heard that people who go down stairs to search for flash disks, win prizes02:57
MajoraCVirus, Out_Cold: part of 9.10!02:58
CVirushehe02:58
CVirusHinata: you use swap for hibernate and suspend02:59
macoCVirus: not for suspend2ram02:59
CViruserr02:59
macoCVirus: s2ram uses well...ram02:59
CVirushibernate only02:59
CVirusyeah .. sorry02:59
Out_ColdCVirus, hibernate is to disk02:59
CVirusexactly02:59
ZiberSo nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?02:59
ardchoille!wireless03:00
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:00
TrekCVirus, swap can also be used if you have multiple virtual machines running on a system at a time (seen it on a client's system once)03:00
cegorachhow can i find the actual mounted location of a mounted disk?03:00
dennymount03:00
macocegorach: just type "mount"03:00
Ziberardchoille: not running wireless03:00
CVirusTrek: I have 3 vm's running right now :-)03:00
ardchoilleZiber: That was meant for me03:01
Ziberoh, i thought you were responding to my issue.03:01
cegorachthanks03:01
wasutton3i think i might have changed the permissions of /bin/bash how would i go about fixing that?03:02
Out_Coldgeeeez.... no wonder i couldn't mount the usb :o/ i was ssh'd into my server03:02
Dr_Williswasutton3:  perms here are --> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 917960 2009-09-14 01:08 /bin/bash.03:02
ZykoticK9wasutton3, "ls -l /bin/bash" should be root:root rwxr-xr-x03:03
wasutton3Dr_Willis, thanks i found out i had accidentally overwrote it -_- ill have to go hunting03:03
frederick85does anyone know how I can apply ladspa effects to my microphone without having to record things03:03
Dr_Willisfrederick85:  like make you sound like donald duck on Skype? :)03:04
CVirusOut_Cold: happens ALL the time :-D03:04
Out_ColdCVirus, when i've completely dropped to shell i always switch tty's so i notice.. but i use xchat and gnome-terminal atm03:05
CVirusOut_Cold: why did you fully drop to shell ?03:07
CVirusI was considering doing so owing to the lack of good DE's or wm's03:07
Out_ColdCVirus, i do when i'm reading man/usr pages and trying to learn/fix03:07
EinherjarQuestion about RAID systems: I had a 2-disc RAID 0 system that I would like to change to a 1-disc non-RAID system with a new OS. I thought it would be possible to just remove one of the drives and boot from the disc, but the system puts out a disc-error warning beep. (bit more to come)03:07
CVirusbut then I decided to use KDE till I finish my own super-awesome DE03:07
EinherjarWhen I try to boot to the OS I had, now, after replacing the disc, it comes up with a kernel panic, saying it cannot sync the system. Is there a way to fix this, or to overwrite the old system with the new one?03:08
Dr_WillisUlttra-Spiffy-Desktop :)03:08
ZykoticK9Einherjar, with RAID 0 half the data is written to one drive and half to the other -- kinda hard to break that up after, no fault tolerance at all...03:09
Dr_WillisActually Raid-0  is even more Unreleiable isent it.. (i dont use raid any more)03:09
EinherjarZykoticK9, so by removing the one drive and trying to boot to a disc, I messed up the system?03:09
Dr_WillisMore unrelieable then a single hd. :) i guess ya can say03:10
EinherjarI'm finding that out, in a way I'd rather not, Dr_Willis.03:10
cegorachis there a better way to recover files from a bad hdd than dd_rhelp?03:10
ZykoticK9Einherjar, what do you mean by boot to a disc?  a cdrom should be fine.  but no way to boot from only 1 HD of your RAID003:10
EdganDr_Willis: you will have to put the drive back in, and use a third source of storage to backup the data to.03:10
Trekanyone know if there will be any issues with the following hardware with 9.04 Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/361006/03:10
ZiberSo nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?03:11
scuniziEinherjar: did you make sure the drive was put back in the same position on the motherboard when you replaced it?03:11
EdganDr_Willis: Then you could do a fresh install to one of the original hard drives.03:11
EinherjarZykoticK9, I accidentally tried booting to a single drive at first, because my boot order did not include the CD/DVD as the first option.03:11
TrekZiber: Because its a bridge and not a controller, you don't have internet.03:11
ZiberTrek: yes, i got that. how do i fix that?03:12
TrekZiber: not sure, usually its a hardware related issue03:12
Einherjarscunizi, that's the first thing I checked. The cables are all correct, and I've tried switching them, to make sure.03:12
Ziber:/03:12
iflemaTrek download a live cd of 9.04 and boot it live.....03:12
scuniziEinherjar: and the boot order is the same?03:12
EinherjarWhen I attempt to boot to a live CD, it fails. Doing a memory check turns up a large number of errors.03:12
zirodayTrek: shouldn't be, however motherboards can be funny03:12
Trekiflema: i'm asking before I get the hardware (i'm planning the upgrades, don't have the hardware yet)03:13
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EinherjarNo, I corrected the boot order, and booting from a CD comes first. When I do, however, it fails, and the memory check turns up errors.03:13
Trekziroday: main issue is that its a quad-core and DDR3 ram, not DDR2 and dual core, hence why I asked03:13
scuniziEinherjar: mem check on the cd or ram?03:13
ZykoticK9Ziber, did you try what i sent you in a pastbin awhile ago?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/ about rmmod forcedeth etc03:13
Einherjarscunizi, mem check.03:13
zirodayTrek: Ubuntu is fully compatible with quad core and DDR3 ram systems, however if it doesn't like the motherboard :)03:14
scuniziEinherjar: so bad ram... ouch03:14
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ZiberZykoticK9: no, didnt see it, sorry, will look now03:14
EinherjarBad RAM? Even if I had just booted to the normal system right before to backup the files on it?03:14
wasutton3i have done something extremely stupid. I have overwritten /bin/bash. is there a way for me to recover, and if so, how/03:15
Trekziroday: ever hear of Ubuntu not working with Gigabyte boards?03:15
Trekwasutton3: reinstall the OS03:15
zirodayTrek: yes03:15
Out_ColdCVirus, well the first thing i notice with the script is the mkdir /mnt/sdb1 what if it's not sdb1??03:15
wasutton3Trek: is that the only way?03:15
Trekwasutton3: only absolute sure way to fix it.  there might be other ways though03:16
ZiberZykoticK9: rmmmod supposed to take a bit to finish?03:16
EinherjarOK. I'll pull out one of the RAM sticks, and if that doesn't work, switch it with the other. I hope that is it.03:16
iflemaZiber /etc/network/interfaces strip away all but lo references03:16
ZykoticK9wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install dash"?03:16
Ziberiflema: why?03:16
iflemaZiber to remove the bridge...03:16
Ziberwell, im doing a "rmmod forcedeth" atm...03:16
ZykoticK9iflema, Ziber the bridge Ziber is refering to is not a network bridge but how the NIC is identified in lspci?  i have NO idea why.03:17
cegorachdoes anyone know a good way to recover data from a bad harddrive?03:17
wasutton3ZykoticK9: i got dash installed03:17
ZiberZykoticK9: rmmod is taking a while...03:17
ZykoticK9Ziber, rmmod should only take a second03:17
Ziber:/03:17
zirodaycegorach: has it made the clicks of death?03:17
Ziberi think it froze.03:18
abumaiahow do I find out what version my wifi driver is?03:18
CVirus Out_Cold: I have a script for sdc and sdd03:18
cegorachziroday: i dont believe so (click of death is horrid clicking coming from the drive, right?)03:18
ZykoticK9wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install bash" then?03:18
CVirusOut_Cold: and I'm expecting only disks with 1 partition to be mounted03:19
zirodaycegorach: yes, its when the pin becomes unaligned and scratches the magnetic plates. What exactly is wrong with the drive?03:19
wasutton3ZykoticK9: i tried that, ill paste it really quick03:19
Einherjarscunizi, thank you. One of my sticks of RAM was cracked, probably when I was fiddling with the drive to pull it out.03:19
EinherjarSadly, the sticks are 2 GB, while the drives are only 20s for testing purposes. Too bad it wasn't the drive that was bad, instead.03:20
scuniziEinherjar: glad you found it.. did you have anther to replace it?03:20
cegorachziroday: from my friend's gf - the mac froze up, and then she punched the keyboard, now the computer wont boot03:20
zirodaycegorach: so you don't actually no if the hard drive is naft?03:20
meowbuntuhi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???03:20
zirodays/no/know03:20
cegorachziroday: i now have it mounted in my ubuntu box, and i'm trying to back up the data for them03:21
ZiberZykoticK9: had to restart. couldnt alt+c out of it. anything else to try? that didnt do it, btw. lspci still says bridge03:21
cegorachziroday: naft?03:21
Einherjarscunizi, no, but it was a pair of 2 GB sticks. C'est la vie. An expensive lesson to be more careful than I thought I was.03:21
zirodaycegorach: okay, and does ubuntu recognize the drive?03:21
ZykoticK9Ziber, lspci will probably always say bridge instead of controller -- for whatever reason???03:21
scuniziEinherjar: I have some old, old edo mem sticks if you want.. by old I mean '87 ish03:21
wasutton3KykoticK9: this is what i got http://pastebin.com/m11905b3703:22
frederick85Dr_Willis: yes i wanna sound different on skype, a bit of reverb would be good03:22
ZiberZykoticK9: and because it does, i have no internet?03:22
cegorachziroday: it recognized the drive and mounted it, but it lagged the crap out of all the file system windows03:22
zirodaycegorach: err okay, well just copy the drive contents onto an external drive (using rsync or whatever)03:22
ZykoticK9Ziber, ?03:23
ZiberZykoticK9: well, i cant get internet, at all. cant ping the router, etc. someone said it was because its a bridge and not a controller?03:23
ZykoticK9wasutton3, i imagine your error is caused because one of the install scripts is trying to call /bin/bash - which isn't there03:23
cegorachziroday: well, i tried to copy using cp, but it kept giving me a 'cannot stat ... I/O error'03:23
meowbuntuhi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???03:24
Einherjarscunizi, Nah. I have a few 256 I can use for the time being. Just a bit longer before I can get another big one to replace it. Thank you, though.03:24
ZykoticK9Ziber, i understand your problem - you're not the only person with this chipset/nic to have problems - it was a search that found me those directions for rmmod03:24
wasutton3KykoticK9, would it be possible to just copy /bin/bash from a different computer?03:24
zirodaycegorach: ookay, well if I were you I'd just try get the documents she wants first, and then get the less important stuff later03:24
EinherjarZykoticK9 and scunizi, I thank you both for the help. I'm still learning Linux, and computers in general. Hopefully I'll be able to repay your aid by helping others in the future!03:25
ZiberZykoticK9: and the only solution is to replace the hardware?03:25
ZykoticK9wasutton3, certainly worth a try -- you MIGHT even try linking dash to bash to test03:25
wasutton3true03:25
cegorachziroday: ok.. i'll try to see if it even lets me do that... i've been trying to use dd_rhelp, but that is taking for ever, and i dont think it is actually copying anything03:25
Out_ColdCVirus, i was just reading but -> If your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that your user has the correct privileges. Go to System->Administration->User and Groups, choose the user, click on "Properties", then go to the "User Privileges" tab. You should have the "Access external storage devices automatically" option checked.03:25
Out_Coldor unchecked03:26
ZykoticK9Ziber, i don't know man -- i don't have the same hardware/issue... but hopefully it's a solveable problem03:26
Ziber:/03:26
meowbuntuany ideas on a really low resourse webbrowser that still plays flashmedia03:26
Ziberthis is silly. an old laptop that my dad was going to trash, but i stole and coverted into a server, works fine. but my custom-built desktop has problems :(03:26
Out_Coldmeowbuntu, seamonkey maybe?03:27
Out_ColdZiber, my custom built everythings have problems :p03:27
coz_meowbuntu,  google chrome is fairly good03:27
abumaiais there a way to find my wifi driver version?03:27
wasutton3ZykoticK9, you are brilliant, i linked it, then was able to install and everything was fine again, no errors, thanks03:28
ZykoticK9wasutton3, glad you got it :)03:28
meowbuntucoz_, i saisd lower than forefox and chrome03:29
petsoundsmeowbuntu, midori03:29
coz_meowbuntu,  oh sorry   then I am not sure...03:29
ZiberZykoticK9: thanks for ur help tho03:29
meowbuntupetsounds, aint madori a kde app03:30
spiffydiffyAnyone here good at figuring out boot/partitioning problems?03:30
ZykoticK9Ziber, your welcome man - i hope you get it working!03:30
petsoundsmeowbuntu, no midori is GTK+03:30
MrUnix!ask | spiffydiffy03:30
ubottuspiffydiffy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:30
coz_meowbuntu,  its another webkit based browser    as is chrome03:30
spiffydiffyFunny, I thought I DID ask a question.03:31
Trekspiffydiffy: you didn't specify a specific enough question03:32
abumaiawow03:32
abumaiahe left03:32
Trekindeed he did, abumaia03:32
MrUnixHis issue obviously wasn't important.03:33
Trekor maybe he expected a faster response, MrUnix03:33
CVirusOut_Cold: I disabled automount already using gconf-editor03:34
CAPcapI have a wireless internet issue.03:34
TrekCAPcap, whats your issue?03:34
mediaprodigyQuestion: Need an app that is similar to Logic, Protools any recommendations.. in the past someone recommended Rosegarden.. any thoughts03:35
mediaprodigyIm trying to do a remix to a song and need the appropriate software for ubuntu03:35
coz_mediaprodigy,  mm  I do most of my music stuff onwindows  unfortuantly03:36
CAPcapWe use a voip phone service in my home. Its buggy and so several times a day we have to reset the modem and router and voip box. when we do this i am obviously forcefully disconnected on my computer. when i was running windows it reconnected just fine but now when we reset I have to reboot my computer to get it to connect to the internet again. how can i fix that?03:36
coz_mediaprodigy,  how about ardour ?03:37
scunizigoogle "music stuff ubuntu" :)03:37
mediaprodigycoz: yeah.. i have a dual boot.. so i have xp but seriously am trying to not use it..03:37
MauritianGuywoow03:37
coz_mediaprodigy,    http://ardour.org/03:37
MauritianGuyits took me a while to realise that i had to complete my nick registration to get here lol03:37
mediaprodigyscunizi: I am but this channel always has good perspectives..03:37
coz_mediaprodigy,  and I Believe you just need to   sudo apt-get install ardour03:37
scuniziCAPcap: you voip service doesn't have QoS .. it's going through the internet cloud.. what service do you have?03:38
MrUnixmediaprodigy, just do like the rest of us and sever your ties to windows completely.03:38
CAPcapidk something obscure03:38
TrekMauritianGuy, it took a person named iAmEpic an hour to realize he had to post on my channel03:38
MrUnixBe a man and let Linux take over your entire HDD.03:38
MauritianGuyguys i am having a problem installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53-pkg1.run03:38
macoMrUnix: that has what, exactly, to do with being a man?03:38
coz_MauritianGuy,  what steps have you taken so far?03:38
MauritianGuyi have tried to get to the terminal and login as root03:39
scuniziCAPcap: is it a sip line you're using with a software client? or a hard phone? is there a box you plug into the internet and then plug the phones into?03:39
CAPcapits called Voipo scunizi03:39
MrUnixmaco, he's making excuses not to install Linux as his sole OS. Men don't make excuses.03:39
coz_MauritianGuy,  have you downloaded this driver from nvidia?03:39
MauritianGuythen tried to accedd the desktop directory where the file is but i cannto access it from there03:39
CAPcapand theres a box we plug our phones into03:39
macoMrUnix: perhaps some men do. who made you arbiter of what men do and do not do?03:39
Fezzlermy sound is "broken" , how to I assess/diagnos repair03:39
mediaprodigyMrUnix: I am trying to get back into djing.. using serato.. mac and xp only and my only mac died.. that was the day I decided it was time to move to ubuntu.03:40
MauritianGuyso i doubleclick and run it on the terminal option but with this option u cannot login as root before so i am stuck03:40
scuniziCAPcap: so they give you a voip adaptor it looks like .. is that right?03:40
coz_MauritianGuy,  one thing to keep in mind is that when you are talking to someone specifically here...type the first few letter of the name and hit tab to complete...this will alert them03:40
macoMauritianGuy: sudo -i03:40
coz_MauritianGuy,  no that wont work that way  not is it the best way to do it03:40
MrUnixmaco, Being a man I think I have first-hand experience in this matter.03:40
coz_MauritianGuy, ` first   sudo apt-get install build-essential03:40
macoMrUnix: but you are not the boss of all men03:40
scuniziCAPcap: just saw your post about the box03:40
MrUnixmaco, when did I ever say I was the boss of all men?03:41
petsoundsmediaprodigy, #opensourcemusicians03:41
MauritianGuycoz_,  when i do the sudo it will fix the install ?03:41
Fezzlerusing 9.1003:41
coz_MauritianGuy,  no03:41
scuniziCAPcap: do you have that box plugged into your router or direct into your internet connection (dsl or cable)03:41
macoMrUnix: you are trying to decide what determines being a Real Man. please do not. it is not welcoming to people who do not fit *your* definition03:41
coz_MauritianGuy,  first    do this    sudo apt-get install build-essential03:41
Trek!offtopic | maco03:41
ubottumaco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:41
fivetwentysixWhere does gem install rails on Ubuntu? Typing rails does not do anything.03:41
CAPcapscunizi phone >router> cable modem03:42
MrUnixmaco, You're taking an obvious joke and blowing it way out of proportion. I suggest you take it to ot or you cool off bud. This is a support channel.03:42
meowbuntuok how do i turn off process i dont kneed that may be running in background03:42
macoMrUnix: then please do not make such jokes in here03:42
scuniziCAPcap: phone>adaptor>router>cable modem?03:42
MrUnixThanks Trek03:42
macosexism is not appreciated03:42
Trekyw, Mr. Unix, but I almost issued one on you too03:42
CAPcapscunizi yeah sorry =P03:42
MrUnixmeowbuntu, run ps in terminal to find them then kill them.03:42
coz_meowbuntu,  you could install sysv-rc-conf03:42
meowbuntuoy keep it on topic please03:42
meowbuntu!offtopic03:42
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:42
MrUnixTrek, I was wrong for posting the joke, I didn't mean to let it carry on so far.03:43
MauritianGuycoz_,  ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root03:43
objornwhere might i find the xorg.conf?03:43
TrekMrUnix, PM me if you want to discuss my reasons for almost issuing one on you03:43
coz_MauritianGuy,  dont try to install this yet...did you install   build-essential ?03:43
MauritianGuyyep i did03:43
coz_ok03:43
ZykoticK9objorn, in 9.10 there isn't one by default03:43
coz_MauritianGuy,   now is there a driver already installed via  hardwa03:44
coz_drives03:44
objornZykoticK9: i need one03:44
MauritianGuyhow do i check03:44
MauritianGuyhow do i check coz_03:44
ZykoticK9objorn, but it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:44
scuniziCAPcap: sometimes you get better service if it's cable modem>adaptor>router .. the reasoning is that the adaptor, also called an ATA, has the ability to prioritize the packets leaving your lan for the internet. so with the adaptor between the cable modem and router it can effectively choke data traffic to allow the voice03:44
coz_MauritianGuy,   system/administration/hardware drivers03:44
objornZykoticK9: but it isn't there03:44
ZykoticK9objorn, you using nvidia?03:44
meowbuntuMrUnix, ps is no good did not even show xchat there thats running03:44
objornZykoticK9: intel03:44
coz_MauritianGuy,  are any of those drivers enabled yet?03:45
ZykoticK9objorn, sorry man, not sure how to generate one with intel - best of luck03:45
meowbuntucoz_, is there a nore gtk frount end for sysv-rc-conf03:45
CAPcapscunizi i'll look into seeing if we can set it up that way. but really what i want to know is how to get my computer to reconnect after the reset, without rebooting my entire system03:45
coz_meowbuntu,  no I dont think so   you have to run  sudo sysv-rc-conf03:46
scuniziCAPcap: sudo service networking restart03:46
meowbuntucoz_, for alsamixer there is gnome-alsamixer03:46
MrUnixmeowbuntu, ps -A or ps aux | less03:46
coz_meowbuntu,   understood03:46
Trekscunizi CAPcap:  that might not work03:46
coz_meowbuntu,  there is also alsamixer-gui03:46
ZykoticK9objorn, without an Xorg running i think "Xorg -configure" will make one to /root then you can copy/rename it to correct location03:46
CAPcapok well what do u think might? it just sits there loading all day and never connecting03:46
Trekscunizi CAPcap:  I had to use 'sudo ifconfig <interfaceName> down up' to effectively reboot each interface03:46
scuniziTrek: what's the right way .. use to involve sudo /etc/init.d/<something>03:46
Fezzleris there a command line instruction I can run to assess why I have no sound03:47
MauritianGuycoz_,  There is an Nvidia version 173 which is installed and 185 is the recomended one but in't the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53 better03:47
Trekscunizi CAPcap:  what I've run into is that I used ifconfig and the down and up flags to reboot the interface(s)03:47
vampedwow i'm puzzled. don't you need SWAP in order to suspend? I just suspended & resumed, and I have no SWAP03:47
coz_MauritianGuy,  ok there are a few steps you have to do before you can install the official navidia driver  so first thing is to get a pencil and paper03:47
scuniziTrek: CAPcap now I remember .. haven't had to use that in a while.. I typically right mouse click the network icon and choose disconnect then reconnect.03:47
CAPcaptrek thats beyond me... im not very good with the terminal03:47
ZykoticK9vamped, i think it's hibernate that requires swap03:48
TrekCAPcap, you using an ethernet cable?03:48
CAPcapand scunizi ive tried that it isnt working03:48
MauritianGuybrb coz_03:48
abumaiahow do I find the version number of my wifi driver?03:48
TrekCAPcap, or wifi?03:48
CAPcapTrek no wireless03:48
coz_MauritianGuy,  ok03:48
TrekCAPcap, do me a favor: go into terminal type "ifconfig"03:48
coz_abumaia,   I am not sure  but if no one here has an response try the ##linux channel03:48
TrekCAPcap, is a wlan0 listed there?03:48
MauritianGuycoz_,  got it03:48
CAPcapTrek Built in wifi on my laptop03:48
CAPcapok03:48
coz_MauritianGuy,  ok  DO NOT do anything until i say go ...write this stuff down03:49
coz_MauritianGuy,     ctrl+alt+F103:49
CAPcapno i have lo03:49
MauritianGuydo u mind sending me the instruction on private coz_03:49
coz_MauritianGuy,   no I dont mind03:49
CAPcapand eth1 and eth003:49
wasutton3is there a way to have root run a command at login of a regular user?03:49
karmsthello03:49
TrekCAPcap, then we'll do this: we'll reboot all interfaces in one line.03:49
MrUnix!hi | karmst03:49
ubottukarmst: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!03:49
happywasutton3: su - username03:49
karmstIs there a way to use Ubuntu Karmic as a Firewall for dual wan with QOS ability?03:49
CAPcapTrek what is a Local Loopback?03:50
wasutton3happy: i mean have it run automatically, without any password requirement or prompt03:50
happywasutton3: su does not require a password if you are root03:50
scunizikarmst: qos is only on your lan.. you can't qos packets once they hit the internet03:50
TrekCAPcap, loopback is somehting that the system uses to communicate with itself on a network03:50
ZykoticK9CAPcap, loopback is 127.0.0.1 - basically yourself03:50
Gnea!java03:51
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:51
CAPcapok :)03:51
happywasutton3: or am I misunderstanding the question?03:51
karmstright scunizi I need a gateway solution that has QOS for VoIP03:51
TrekCAPcap, with a wlan0 not existing, but an eth0 and eth1 means wifi = eth in the detection03:51
Treknevertheless...03:51
TrekCAPcap, type this in terminal on one line: sudo ifconfig eth0 down up; sudo ifconfig eth1 down up03:51
karmstcan Ubuntu be a gateway?03:51
CAPcapthe line that says eth1 has all my connection details03:51
wasutton3happy: but i am logging in as my user. the script has to be run with root permissions but can only be run once the gnome has loaded completely03:51
CAPcapso it must be my wireless....03:51
MrUnixkarmst, yes it can.03:51
TrekCAPcap: then only do this: sudo ifconfig eth1 down up03:51
TrekCAPcap: in terminal03:52
happywasutton3: ok, so you want the user to run as root. Not the root to run as user03:52
TrekCAPcap: then use your connection manager to select the network again03:52
karmstMrUnix: can you team two WAN interfaces together with it?03:52
TrekCAPcap: should allow you to reconnect03:52
wasutton3happy: correct03:52
scunizikarmst: asterisk will probably do that.. QoS can occationally be implemented in your router or in a smart switch.. but again.. QoS for voIP will only work within your lan..03:52
happywasutton3: there is a way to allow passwordless sudo for certain programs03:52
MrUnixkarmst, This isn't really my department. I'm sorry.03:53
TrekCAPcap: you will lose your connection if you're using that computer on this chat though, at least for a few minutes03:53
scunizikarmst: unless you have a t-1 from a carrier and they have the ability to put that on the circuit03:53
happywasutton3: you could make a non editable root owned script. And then say it can be run as root without a password.03:53
wasutton3happy: ok, where would i find this?03:53
happywasutton3: I do not know off the top of my head how to do that. Let me look it up03:53
Fezzlerhow do I check my sound card drivers03:54
karmstscunizi: my problem is that the VoIP calls are not clear and that other services are sucking up all the available bandwidth03:54
wasutton3ok03:54
ZykoticK9wasutton3, research the sudoers file03:54
karmstso I need to somehow make those calls packet priority03:54
CAPcapok, well for now i cant see that it did anything but i'll try it next time we have a reset. thanks for all of your help Trek and scunizi03:55
TrekCAPcap: wait03:55
Trek...03:55
wasutton3ok03:55
happywasutton3: http://polishlinux.org/first-steps/root-account/sudo-faq/03:55
scunizikarmst: what kind of router do you have?03:55
karmsta syswan 24vws vpn03:56
karmstbut I've since moved to a VMware esxi server with a virtual router03:56
happywasutton3: you need to make sure to read everything there. And back up the sudoers file. And make sure the script you allow to run can not be tampered with by users. you are walking into one of the biggest security minefields.03:56
karmstI'm thinking about using vyatta03:56
happywasutton3: have fun :-P03:56
Mr_Queuewhy not just include it in the start up scripts wasutton3?03:58
vajorieyou gotta stop diverting everyone to ubuntu-unregged... it's extremely annoying.03:59
scunizikarmst: google doesn't find a syswan.. if the new router is virtual look into having it put a TOS bit on the voip traffic and give it priority..  however a smart switch will also do this effectively and may be easier.. that's about as much as I can guide you.03:59
karmstvajorie just register your nick and then add the password to your irc profile03:59
johntramphi i have my email on another machine using getmail. i have been accessing it via ssh and mutt, which mostly works well except i have to check for new mails all the time. is there a way i could use something locally to notify me when new mail arrives?03:59
karmsthmm03:59
karmstI have a smart switch as well04:00
MrUnixWhere is the sudoers file on Ubuntu? /etc/sudoers?04:00
karmst I have a dell powerconnect 480004:00
MrUnix(I'm on Fedora)04:00
TrekMrUnix: i think so04:00
TrekMrUnix: use sudo to edit it04:00
vajoriekarmst: it's registered. I autojoin to ubuntu bf I have time to identify. also, I don't see the point of having folks register their usernames. I'm guessing a script can do that easily for random nicks.04:00
MrUnixTrek, thanks. =P I need to put Ubuntu on a VM so I can remember all of this stuff.04:00
TrekMrUnix: let me check04:01
TrekMrUnix: yeah, thats where it is, but even with sudo I can't edit it.  might be that I need to login as root04:01
Mr_QueueTrek: no no... visudo to edit.04:02
Trekthanks Mr_Queue04:02
naiadcan xrandr be used with xinerama or do they not coexist?04:02
MrUnixvajorie, Most IRC channels require a registered nick to view or post in a discussion. It is true that simple scripts can be used to create registered users en masse, but to be honest people rarely care enough to try.04:02
MrUnixThanks Trek04:02
scunizikarmst: a lot of smart switched have PoS and voip priority.. easier than messing with a router or virtual router.04:02
karmstah04:03
karmstyou may be right04:03
fivetwentysixwhy is the rails package out of date04:03
scunizikarmst: *PoE not PoS sorry.. "Power over Ethernet"04:04
scunizinaiad: I don't think they coexist.. if you use xinerama you may have to write your own xorg.conf04:08
karmstscunizi: my switch has Class of Service or COS is that the same thing?04:08
scunizikarmst: might be..04:08
naiadtrying to have 1 lcd in landscape, 1 in portrait and be able to drag windows between them.  preferrably being able to switch from landscape/portrait without restarting x04:08
Mr_Queueas in QoS?04:08
Mr_Queuekarmst: ^^04:09
scunizikarmst: I'd say yes.. I've forgotten what number represents voip qos  .. Mr_Queue ..yes04:09
Lostinspace_46@new york04:09
karmstah04:10
Mr_QueueQoS rules just give priority to some packets over others. In my opinion you'd need to have a rather over-worked router for it to matter..04:10
Mr_Queue50-100 clients...04:10
TrekMr_Queue, how exactly can you get gedit to edit /etc/sudoers ?04:11
karmstMr_Queue: I'm having VoIP issues04:11
karmstcalls are all garbled and nothing is clear04:11
scuniziMr_Queue: karmst would like to prioritize only on the lan since you can't in the cloud.. he's got other stuff on the lan eating bandwidth04:11
Mr_QueueTrek: 'sudo visudo'04:11
Mr_Queuekarmst: that could be anything under the sun really......04:12
TrekMr_Queue, I meanm with the GUI text editor, not CLI-based text editor04:12
scuniziMr_Queue: a smart switch of the right type will prioritize voip traffic on the lan04:12
karmstwell I put a sniffer and can see where the traffic is being over run by mail server, data transfers and backups04:12
Mr_Queuescunizi: sure... but what's smart? off the shelf walmart hardware? Powered by OpenWRT?04:13
karmsthaha04:13
karmstno I have a Dell PowerConnect 272404:13
karmstit is a managed switch04:13
Screamo_Smurf:/04:14
Blue1you can tell if it's a dell....04:14
scuniziMr_Queue: no.. you're thinking router.. I'm talking dedicated switch $400 and north of that.. Netgear, linksys, cisco.. typically 12-24-48 port with PoE04:14
Mr_QueueTrek: not to be a donk, but I don't know/care... 'sudo visudo' pretty much if you're playing with that you better be able to do it from something other than Firefox/OpenOffice, else leave it be until things catch up to your needs..04:14
Trekokay, thanks, Mr_Queue04:15
Screamo_Smurfi need help with automagickly mounting hd's at startup04:15
ziroday!fstab > Screamo_Smurf04:15
ubottuScreamo_Smurf, please see my private message04:15
Mr_QueueTrek: reason being..04:15
karmstok this is talking about DSCP egress queue values04:16
TrekMr_Queue: found my answer.  forgot I asked about this on the fourms :P04:17
Mr_QueueTrek: 'visudo' not only enables a lock file so no one else can be editing sudoers at the same time, there are a few checks for what works and what doesnt.. So if you have a typo it will catch it..04:17
Screamo_Smurf:/04:17
scuniziMr_Queue: karmst here's one.. much more expensive than the one that I give clients but essentially the features are very similar.. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=netgear+24+port+poe+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6072252272563113789&ei=_3daS6bgF5DysQOPr-ScAw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDQQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers04:17
Mr_Queuescunizi: what are you playing with?04:17
Mr_QueueTINYURL04:17
Screamo_Smurfyea04:18
scuniziMr_Queue: karmst http://tinyurl.com/ygu3re304:18
karmstscunizi: yeah I have basically a similar device04:19
karmstit's like an $800.00 switch04:19
n00pYour unreg channel is fucked up, #ubuntu. Get rid of it, it's so restrictive: I can't change nickname until I part it, even if I log in.04:19
scunizikarmst: the one I typically play with retails for around $40004:20
Mr_Queuescunizi: well to be honest I've never seen that hardware. No clue what it's powered by, and probably isn't Ubuntu/Debian so I would guess you're in the wrong area for answers.. I mean the easy obvious stuff of QoS should somewhat jump out imo.. but if now.. write the firmware keyholder?04:20
karmstbut this is doing priority by actual physical port on the switch04:20
Mr_Queuescunizi: Look at OpenWRT.04:21
scunizikarmst: can or not.. the smart switches can do vlan, port designation, QoS, PoE etc.. on one port or all.04:22
Mr_Queuescunizi: http://openwrt.org/04:22
Mr_QueueRegardless, and no offense, offtopic...04:23
scuniziMr_Queue: I've seen OpenWRT and it's fine as a firmware replacement on small non-commercial linksys routers and others.. however what I'm talking to karmst about is commercial grade equipment.. an actual switch.. it's not a router and has no routing functions perse.. not in the classic sense anyway..04:23
scuniziMr_Queue: you can hook a fiber link directly to it, hook several together with fiber etc..04:24
Mr_Queuescunizi: Have you not seen RouterStation Pro by Ubiquiti? Pretty serious hardware bro... http://www.ubnt.com/products/rspro.php04:24
Mr_QueueHave a look what it ships with..04:25
wasutton3is there a command i can enter to enable or disable a system wide proxy ( i only need it sometimes but its often enough that changing it gets old fast)04:25
Mr_Queuewasutton3: it's called a script.04:25
Screamo_Smurfziroday im not completly understading it04:25
wasutton3Mr_Queue, i figured as much i just dont know what needs to be entered04:26
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: sure, what about?04:26
Screamo_Smurflol04:26
Screamo_Smurfummm04:26
scuniziMr_Queue: looks nice but it's still not carrier grade stuff. I'd never run a serious business with it..04:26
zirodayscunizi: Mr_Queue: any chance you could take your networking discussion to ##networking?04:27
Screamo_Smurfpretty much the whole thing lol04:27
Mr_Queuewasutton3: well buddy.......04:27
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: ookay :), where have you read up to?04:27
Mr_Queueziroday: I'm with you there dude.. But I'm gonna miss the meeting. :)04:27
Quan-Timei have steam open, and its actively downloading an update,, how can i tell waht its connecting to ? whats the command from a term to list all active connections ?04:27
Screamo_Smurfwell i got the fstab file open, but im not sure what to put in lol04:27
panfistcan anyone explain why the testdisk package was dropped from the repositories?04:27
panfistis there something better in there now?04:27
spiffydiffyDoes anyone know why a fresh install onto a hardware RAID-0 will boot only from the live CD?  This is single OS setup and the 9.10 liveCD was told to use the entire disk.04:28
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: right, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please04:28
Screamo_Smurfi want to auto mount these drives: /dev/sdc1: UUID="AC88BCB688BC807E" LABEL="Old computer" TYPE="ntfs" and /dev/sdb1: UUID="c96e3e4b-03e2-413b-a10a-36e67bc4fcdc" TYPE="ext4"04:28
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: right, give me a sec04:28
zirodaypanfist: erm it is in the repo's since dapper, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=testdisk&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all04:29
Mr_QueueQuan-Time: like netstat?04:29
Quan-TimeMr_Queue: yup, that did it04:29
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: made a mount point?04:29
panfistaaaah i forgot to include universe in my new environment thanks04:29
Quan-Timei have a data cap where i am, BUT some steam servers are "unmetered" just making sure it was connected properly04:29
Screamo_Smurfwell they are both currently mounted and they are where i want them to be04:30
Mr_QueueScreamo_Smurf: where's grub?04:30
Screamo_Smurfsince the folders exist right now idk if that would casue a problem04:30
Mr_QueueScreamo_Smurf: wrong nick...04:30
Mr_Queuespiffydiffy: where is grub?04:30
Screamo_Smurf:/04:30
karmstscunizi: I've figured it out. You have to create a VLAN first and then give that priority over the other traffic in the switch04:31
seanp8088hello, i just need someone to post their /etc/init/dmesg.conf04:31
seanp8088i accidently borked mine04:31
scunizikarmst: that's one way :)04:31
GhostWolfhey all, im wondering if anyone can help me? im trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10, reason im trying to do this is trying to get the modem for my dial up to be enabled04:31
karmst;)04:31
seanp8088this is for karmic server if it matters04:31
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: okay, well where do you want to mount the partitions? Normally I would create a folder like /media/oldfolder04:31
spiffydiffyMr_Queue:Not sure.  Everything I've read uses /dev/hda but my system has a hardware RAID-O and I can't figure out what the dev name actually is.04:31
Screamo_Smurfpretty much like that04:31
Screamo_Smurflike /media/oldcomputer and the same for the other one04:32
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: and so for your first fstab line it would be UUID=AC88BCB688BC807E /media/oldcomputer ntfs defaults 0 004:32
CVirusHow can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?04:32
Mr_Queuespiffydiffy: unlucky for you.. I have yet to play with RAID.. BUT grub is the player here...04:32
Screamo_Smurfso i just add that to fstab?04:33
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: sure, if you are not sure feel free to paste your entire fstab after04:33
spiffydiffyMr_Queue: Yes, and I have read many grub tutorials.  Lamentably, they all talk about single IDE or SATA setups, and use dev names that don't apply to me.  When I do a df, I get a very confusing response.04:33
Mr_Queuespiffydiffy: pastebin grub.cfg/menu?04:33
seanp8088so could someone please post their default /etc/init/dmesg.conf file, i accidently overwrote mine :(04:34
Mr_QueueLamentably NICE... we've been on a word of the day kick for a couple weeks now a few friends and I.04:34
spiffydiffyMr_Queue: not sure what you are asking.....  Somewhat new to linux (came from BSD).04:34
Mr_Queuespiffydiffy: Well... /boot will have grub.<something> depending on what release your chilling at..04:35
GhostWolfcan anyone please help me? please.. i been having problems trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10 so i can enable the data modem so i can use dial up04:35
zirodayseanp8088: http://pastebin.com/f2e259c8004:36
seanp8088ziroday: thx dood04:36
spiffydiffyMr_Queue: Okay, so you're looking for the config file for grub, right?04:36
kora-chanhi, im using 9.10 and just installed a 2.6.32 kernel to get the sound working on my mac book pro 5,5. this worked, but after a reboot my wireless lan doesnt work anymore (used the broadcom drivers from restricted). now i cant install them again from the gui. any idea how i can i install those drivers manually for my new kernel?04:36
zirodayGhostWolf: right click on network manager and select edit connections04:36
JabberWalkieok, so I tried to install usb-creator as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick   so I can install ubuntu on a computer using a usb memory stick. It comes up as not found...04:36
Screamo_Smurfziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5b91ef404:36
seanp8088GhostWolf: there should be a dial-up config tab on the network settings dialog box.  are you running -desktop or -server?04:36
rsmith16384hello all04:36
Mr_Queuespiffydiffy: yes.04:36
Screamo_SmurfGhostWolf sudo apt-get install wvdial04:37
GhostWolfziroday where is the network manager? i don't see network managers in either sections in the system tab04:37
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: looks perfect04:37
rsmith16384has anyone gotten jumbo frames working on realtek gigabit card?04:37
karmstthanks scunizi for the direction. This is actually working.04:37
zirodayGhostWolf: its a small icon in the top right on the menubar04:37
rsmith16384i set mtu to 9000 but ifconfig still shows 150004:37
GhostWolfScreamo_Smurf i know i need to get that but i need to get the modem to enable first04:37
scuniziGhostWolf: pick the upper panel and right mouse click > Add to panel > Modem Monitor  .. this will activate and allow the modem to work I believe.. wvdial is another program that may get loaded at the same time.04:37
iflemaGhostWolf pots? old school dial-up? whats the modem type..... if its not external get ready 4 tears04:37
scunizikarmst: learned most of my voip stuff over the last 6 months selling IP-PBX's04:38
scunizikarmst: glad it's working04:38
Screamo_Smurfziroday what about for the other one? :P04:38
seanp8088rsmith16384: try editing /etc/network/interfaces and specify the MTU there04:38
seanp8088rsmith16384: man interfaces04:38
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: well similar thing, just change out the UUID, mount point and possibly filesystem. Feel free to go ahead and then pastebin when you are done04:38
rsmith16384ok will report the result in about 10 mins04:38
GhostWolfiflema its not external and im not going to go about to not try if people tell me i can't have dial up with it04:38
seanp8088rsmith16384: so you'd want to append "mtu 9000" in there somewhere.  then do /etc/init.d/networking restart04:39
seanp8088rsmith16384: jumbo frames, eh?  Make sure your router / switch / NIC supports them04:39
scuniziKarius: Is this at work? or at home?04:39
rsmith16384both do04:39
scuniziKarius: sorry. wrong nick.04:39
seanp8088OK, then you should be good to go.  Don't expect it to play nice with other devices that don't support jumbo frames04:39
rsmith16384i can mismatch itll just be slower right till theyre all on the same page?04:39
iflemaGhostWolf yeah go 4 it.. i just mean prepare yourself for tears.... alot of internal dialup modems are made for windows...04:40
seanp8088rsmith16384: no, if you have the MTU set incorrectly it'll chop packets and basically not work04:40
penguincentralhi. does anyone know of an ubuntu deri04:40
penguincentralerr04:40
GhostWolfiflema yes i know but i already did research there are modems that work with linux and i already checked and ubuntu already noticed it and got the drivers..04:40
rsmith16384my switch in unmanaged so i guess itll detect them04:40
rsmith16384ill set the router from a diff puter i guess04:41
iflemaGhostWolf good one.....04:41
seanp8088rsmith16384: it's worth a shot, if it doesn't work just switch it back to 1500 and restart networking again04:41
rsmith16384if you dont hear from me , well :)04:41
penguincentraldoes anyone know of an ubuntu distro that'll support a comp with a 600 MHz processor and 128 mb of ram?04:42
seanp8088penguincentral: you could try installing -server then just install your own lightweight GUI04:42
penguincentralk04:42
Screamo_Smurfziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5c6f290604:42
seanp8088penguincentral: that's what I did with a thin client.  You should be able to run 'dwm' which is a very efficient window manager.  make sure you read about how to use it first04:42
seanp8088penguincentral: there are honestly more efficient distros for low CPU applications04:43
seanp8088penguincentral: my 1000mhz Via Eden doesn't have enough graphics power to barely browse the web04:43
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: err why are you trying to mount the drive that is running ubuntu?04:43
zcat[1]puppy!04:43
penguincentralseanp8088: what do you suggest04:43
Screamo_Smurfthe contents of the hme folder duh :D04:44
seanp8088penguincentral: puppy linux, damn small linux, or ArchLinux / FreeBSD if you want to work a bit more04:44
Screamo_Smurf*home04:44
seanp8088penguincentral: is it i386 or i686? (does it support instructions like CMOV) ?04:44
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: err I would double check your UUID's on that last one04:44
Screamo_Smurf:/04:44
zirodayScreamo_Smurf: it appears you're trying to mount the same drive twice04:44
zirodayfirst as /, then as /media/ubuntu04:45
seanp8088penguincentral: you can find out by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags"04:45
penguincentralseanp8088: its running win 200004:45
Screamo_Smurflol oops i forgot the kubuntu drive wasnt sda104:45
seanp8088penguincentral: try CPUZ:04:46
seanp8088penguincentral: oops, http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php04:46
penguincentralok04:46
seanp8088penguincentral: debian, for instance, is available in an i386 flavor, where as ubuntu requires i68604:46
Screamo_Smurfso this would be about right:UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 004:47
penguincentralseanp8088: i'm recycling this comp for my uncle that doesnt really know how to use one04:47
robbso i have ubuntu 9.10, and it was running the geforce2 ti using the supplied drivers (weak/nil 3d support) i added an ATI Rage PCI for dual monitor setup, much reading later, it is apparent this will not work, due to security issues with the driver for ATI and a headache full of compiling kernels for the Nvidia... perhaps better legacy hardware support in future releases, or am i just wishing?04:48
seanp8088penguincentral: if it's a pentium III then it should be fine04:48
robbplus i think there is no binary driver support for 9.10/geforce204:48
penguincentralseanp8088: yeah it's a p304:48
robbforums were mentioning gutsy and such04:48
seanp8088robb: i found this: http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/04:49
Screamo_Smurfziroday UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 004:50
seanp8088robb: that might be tough tho, dealing with two vid drivers04:50
robbyes, what i found was similiar04:51
seanp8088man Tranmission is a joke compared to rtorrent04:53
askihow can I list hard disk partitions(mounted and unmounted) using command line?04:53
MrUnixseanp8088, I like Transmission.04:53
seanp8088but i will say that rtorrent + XMLRPC + SCGI + Apache is a bit of a PITA to set up at first04:53
MrUnixaski, fdisk -l04:53
askiMrUnix: ty.04:54
rwwaski: you might need sudo fdisk -l to list them all.04:54
MrUnixaski, might need to run that as root. No worries.04:54
robbseanp8088: i think that is referring to the dual head ati/nvidia cards, not TWO cards :)04:54
seanp8088aski: 'mount' will show you what's mounted.  'df -h' will show you how much space is left on each mounted device04:54
blakkheimrtorrent here04:54
robbenvyng just gave up on me, the nvidia control applet says i have no cards (wrong driver version for support), etc etc04:55
DJCharlieEvening all. Quick question. I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this?04:55
voidmagei'm having steam crash a few seconds after logging in - the error it dumps is err:dbghelp:pe_load_dbg_file Couldn't find .DBG file "COMCTL32.dbg" ("")04:55
seanp8088robb: yeah, that might be difficult to get working.  at work I run an ATI 200m laptop with the laptop and an external plus an EVGA displaylink USB adapter for a 3rd monitor...but in windows :)04:55
voidmagegoogle didn't turn up anything, anybody else know what that means?04:55
MrUnixDJCharlie, punch it in the face.04:55
zomfgcrazyhello.. =x04:55
MrUnix!hi | zomfgcrazy04:56
ubottuzomfgcrazy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!04:56
zomfgcrazy^.^04:56
CVirusHow can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?04:56
penguincentralseanp8088: is there a novice user friendly lightweight distro that you like?04:56
MrUnixCVirus, did you try asking in ##linux?04:56
askiseanp8088: ty.04:56
MrUnixpenguincentral, puppy!04:56
robbpenguincentral: ubuntu! :)04:57
MrUnixUbuntu is lightweight, but puppy is super lightweight!04:57
MrUnixPuppy Linux FTW04:57
CVirusMrUnix: this is more ubuntu/gnome related04:57
zcat[1]CVirus:  user permissions04:57
penguincentralk...04:57
MrUnixCVirus, I understand, but if you don't get any help in here you might try there. =)04:57
zcat[1]CVirus:  system > ADministration > Users and groups04:57
CViruszcat[1]: doesn't work04:58
robbcan't just take /dev/usb (or whatever) permission away from users?04:58
firestriderhey guys you probably get this a lot but what's the advantage of linux over windows besides cost and being open source04:58
Screamo_Smurfits just better04:58
zomfgcrazyis there any way to make a 'mountable' image of a windows partition that i can then save as a singular file and mount in Ubuntu (9.10) and have all of the stuff there as if it were actually hardwired in?04:58
MrUnixfirestrider, This isn't really the channel for that.04:58
Screamo_SmurfSnakDoc04:58
robbfirestrider: security, important to me04:58
CVirusrobb: ?04:58
MrUnixfirestrider, pm me if you'd like to discuss it.04:59
CVirusrobb: which node exactly ?04:59
SnakDocScreamo_Smurf: yes ??04:59
voidmagepersonally, i like doing things from the command line, also ssh04:59
robbCVirus: dunno which node04:59
robbjust an idea04:59
Screamo_Smurfi know somebody with that nick.. just wondering if maybe your the person i know04:59
CVirusrobb: the nodes are created dynamically anyways .. so I don't think it's of any use to change their permissions as they will be resetted04:59
DJCharlieI have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this? And no, punching it won't help.04:59
zcat[1]never tried to stop users mounting removable filesystems but the option is there. Doesn't it work?04:59
Screamo_SmurfDJCharlie kick it05:00
SnakDocScreamo_Smurf: no idea don't know anyone with yours off tom of my head05:00
CViruszcat[1]: yes it doesn't :-(05:00
Screamo_Smurfhmmm05:00
Screamo_Smurfever heard of xbc?05:00
DJCharlieCan someone give me a serious answer please?05:00
robbDJCharlie: perhaps it has it's own power management??05:00
MrUnix!xubuntu | DJCharlie05:00
ubottuDJCharlie: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels05:00
Screamo_SmurfDJCharlie try edit the setting under screensaver05:00
zcat[1]CVirus:  Oh well. Unplug the USB ports (or fill them with glue) -- hehe05:00
CVirusdooh05:01
DJCharlieScreamo_Smurf: As I said, I've done that.05:01
zcat[1]There'll be some permissions thing in /etc/udev rules that you can change.05:01
Screamo_Smurf:/05:01
Screamo_Smurfidk then05:01
Screamo_Smurfi use kubuntu :D05:01
hiexpook that took me awhile to figure outthat mess05:02
Mr_Queueno05:02
zomfgcrazyIs it possible to back up a windows partition (filesystem?) to an image and then be able to mount it in Ubuntu?  If so.. what might be used to do it?05:02
zcat[1]CVirus:  Also file a bug or feature request, perhaps we can have the ability to control that added to 10.0405:02
seanp8088CVirus: << http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369205:02
Screamo_Smurf!fstab05:02
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:02
seanp8088CVirus: it won't completely prevent it if they know how to use mount, but you could lock that down too05:03
robb!envyng05:03
ubottuEnvyNG is a program to install newer version of nVidia or ATi drivers, it can be found in !Universe as "envyng-gtk" (for Gtk/Gnome) or "envyng-qt" (for Qt/KDE). It is NOT a supported method to install video drivers; please only use it if standard methods fail and at your own risk - See also !BinaryDriver05:03
robbnewer :(05:03
glickexcuse me, what does it mean when you do an 'ls' and you see a folder that is highlighted in green?05:03
CVirusseanp8088: gnome-volume-manager is no longer in 9.0405:03
robb!ls05:03
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:03
syriusI have this enabled in my smb.conf file to use cdrom on  my vista machine I am able to access it but I can't burn to it http://pastebin.ca/raw/1762480 how do I do this I tried network map the drive that didn't work either05:03
MrUnixglick, green is executable05:03
syrius:/05:03
gasullCan anybody tell me how to get apt links working in Firefox?  Thanks05:03
glickahh05:04
glickthanks MrUnix05:04
MrUnixglick, Each color means something. Blue is a directory, pink/magenta is a symlink, for example. And no worries.05:04
glickMrUnix, even though its a directory05:04
glickMrUnix, its a directory05:04
MrUnixglick, Is it? Hmmm I'm in Fedora right now and green here is an exec. My bad.05:04
seanp8088CVirus: maybe this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/05:04
hiexpois anybody else having probs logging in here tonight ?05:05
mneptokglick: directories need to executable bit set in order to be opened.05:05
zcat[1]syrius:  is it possible to burn to a shared CDROM between two windows machines?!!05:05
glickits a directory with all perms05:05
zomfgcrazyI see fstab is used to manage partitions, but can it create an image of one (from one)?05:05
glickmneptok, but other directories with x bit set arnt highlithgted05:05
CVirusseanp8088: I don't want do that because the superuser needs access to usb05:05
CVirusseanp8088: I want to prevent normal users only05:05
MrUnixglick, then maybe the run perm overwrites it's standard blue color? I'm not sure bud.05:05
mneptokglick: are they 777 like the directory you're talking about?05:05
glickno mneptok05:06
seanp8088CVirus: you could blacklist the module then modprobe it when you need it05:06
seanp8088CVirus: http://www.ossramblings.com/disabling_usb_storage_in_linux like this <<05:06
mneptokglick: that's probably the reason05:06
glickah05:06
CVirusseanp8088: actually I don't want to prevent users from accessing usb drives .. I'm allowing them to mount them but in read-only mode using a script I wrote that they have to invoke05:07
onetinsoldierglick: try the following command on it and tell us what you get --> file <greenthing>05:07
MrUnixfile = awesome command05:07
CVirusseanp8088: so i can't remove the usb module05:07
syriusI think so zcat[1]05:07
zomfgcrazyCan the tutorial on this page be used to successfully and safely backup a Windows XP partition? (-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 <-)05:07
syriusbut how do I do it?05:07
onetinsoldierMrUnix: :-)05:07
glickonetinsoldier, it says its a directory05:08
voidmageokay i'm really confused05:08
onetinsoldierglick: understood05:08
voidmagesteam keeps crashing in wine without dumping an error message anywhere05:08
CVirusseanp8088: more ideas ?05:08
glickhmm its no big deal05:08
glicki was just curious why it was green highlighted05:08
seanp8088CVirus: i'm not sure how to specifically lock down nautalis without implementing your own form of UAC by recompiling it :)05:09
Avenegrai been using conky and it seems the most perfect monitor ever, but just read that there are also rainmeter, samurize & geektool. Anyone has used them? are they better than conky?05:09
CVirusseanp8088: I don't think it's related to nautilus .. it is related to udev i guess05:09
zomfgcrazyi've used samurize. i wasn't a huge fan, but i will admit i didn't take the time to learn all of the ins and outs.05:10
voidmagedoes anyone have any ideas about my steam problem, or is there a better channel to ask in?05:10
MrUnixOh, it's green highlighted?05:10
MrUnixI thought you meant the text was green. My bad. Green highlight means something else.05:10
seanp8088Avenegra: if you've already found the most perfect monitor ever, why would you want to switch?  Conky is pretty damn configurable05:10
echo3zom: That would proably work with05:10
seanp8088Avenegra: i've been meaning to write an alert thingy for it in LUA05:11
Avenegrazomfgcrazy: conky kicks till the end, but i was just curious05:11
zcat[1]syrius:  I would share a writable directory, then have a small script that takes the contents of that directory and burns it to CD either by checking for a flag file (eg a cron job that looks for a file called 'burn_now') or by sshing to the server machine05:11
Avenegrai know, it's amazing and plus a joy to play with the config05:11
Avenegrabut.. as said i just wanted to hear from the others05:11
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syrius:/05:12
robbnvidia-glx-XXX only goes back to 96 on karmic, and the geforce2 ti needs nvidia-glx-7105:12
seanp8088Avenegra: i thought rainmeter was windows-only and geektool was mac-only05:12
robbbut i think 71 is uncompilable? on 9.1005:13
zcat[1]syrius:  there may be some samba tool I'm not aware of, but to do this would be only a few lines of bash script and a one line entry in crontab.05:13
seanp8088robb: did you already try nvidia-glx-legacy ?05:14
Avenegradunno, that would left me with samurize. i'll check it's page (i doubt i'll find better though =)05:14
zcat[1][ -e /shared_cd/burn_now ] && mkisofs {options} && isoburner {options} && rm /shared_cd/*05:14
Avenegrathanks!05:15
zcat[1]I think you could do it with one line in crontab even05:15
needhelp1does anyone here use something other than nm applet05:16
seanp8088time to play left4dead2 :)05:17
robbseanp8088: :) yes05:17
ardchoillezcat[1]: might want to add a md5sum command so burn_now doesn't get removed if the burn is bad05:17
needhelp1nm-applet wont work for me, wireless conn works fine in windows.. ubuntus nmapplet wont work05:17
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seanp8088robb: might want to check this out too, it's old :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5396605:18
voidmagewell, new question05:18
seanp8088robb: here is what i searched for, seems other links might be useful: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=quY&q=ubuntu+two+different+video+cards&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=05:18
voidmagedoes anyone know how to uninstall ie6 in wine? i installed it by accident05:18
MrUnix!ask | voidmage05:19
ubottuvoidmage: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:19
MrUnixvoidmage, How did you install it by accident? Come clean man05:19
voidmageokay fine05:19
voidmagei was trying to get star trek working and it said to run winetricks ie605:19
jack5463what is ubuntu dolphin05:19
robbyep, read it :)05:19
needhelp1does anyone use something besides nm applet?05:19
voidmageMrUnix: and now things that need gecko are running ie6 and crashing after a few seconds05:19
MrUnixDolphin is a windows manager found in KDE.05:19
needhelp1i cant get nm applet to work right.. looking for replacements05:19
seanp8088needhelp1: use somehing besides... for what?05:20
kinja-sheepMrUnix: He tripped over something and installed it.05:20
needhelp1network connections... i cant get wireless connections to work in ubuntu with nm applet05:20
needhelp1networkmanager applet05:20
voidmagethat too, i don't know what i was thinking05:20
voidmage:P05:20
MrUnixkinja-sheep, voidmage lol05:20
MrUnixWell, since you tainted it with Microsoft stuff I'mma be honest.05:20
MrUnixYou have to kill it.05:20
MrUnixWith fire05:20
infidwhen i 'ssh -X me@mypc' it lets me in but running (nautilus, xclock, etc) says: 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong auth'. if i echo $DISPLAY it says 'localhost:10.0' like it hsould though. any ideas? I'm using public keys with passwordauthentication no and xauth says 'using auth file /var/run/gdm/auth-for/infid-vfw80x/database'05:21
seanp8088needhelp1: <<< http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html05:21
seanp8088needhelp1: here is a guide for 9.10: http://forceflow.ulyssis.be/2009/09/26/wicd-an-alternative-network-manager/ (really easy, just apt-get install wicd and it'll remove nm applet)05:22
seanp8088needhelp1: i replaced network-manager with WICD because of my wifi disconnecting even with "compatible" madwifi patched drivers05:23
seanp8088needhelp1: wicd isn't perfect, it has some bugs, but it's better than network-manager if you're having trouble05:23
needhelp1yeah, IMO this is a widely known issue with ubuntu05:24
seanp8088needhelp1: yep :) i fix it all the time for friends05:24
needhelp1you would think gnome would fix this.. or ubuntu would change the default network manager05:25
econdudeHowdy!05:26
MauritianGuyhello i am back05:26
MauritianGuyhey coz_ u der05:26
MauritianGuyi need some help installing a driver05:27
MauritianGuyit seems that i cannot access any directory beyond Home with my current user or root access05:28
myk_robinsonany Banshee users here? Tried it this evening, and it will consistently use 100% of one of my cores. I can disable all plugins, and it still does it. Does this happen for you as well? Using Rhythmbox with a bunch of plugins doesnt exhibit this behavior05:28
MauritianGuysomehow i keep getting error no such file or directory05:28
MauritianGuyit might be my syntax though i am quite new at the basic linux command syntax05:28
Mr_Queueblah... oh it's easy... yeah a+b = c05:29
MauritianGuyi already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.5305:29
MauritianGuyi already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.5305:30
MauritianGuysorry for repeating05:30
MauritianGuyso i did the get update and the dist-upgrade and the reboot and the uninstall of the previous driver but i got stuck in accessing the directory where the new driver is located05:31
MauritianGuyany suggestion?05:31
Akumahello, I need some advice regarding computer law05:33
MauritianGuycomputer law05:33
Akumayea05:33
MauritianGuyregarding what exactly its sounds interesting05:33
robbcomputer law05:33
Akumanot sure where else to ask, but ubuntu people seems are usually a knowledgeable bunch05:33
MauritianGuyi can search a bit if i dont know05:34
MrUnixAkuma, just spit it out. We'll do our best.05:34
FlannelAkuma: that's offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic (but thats not exactly proper legal counsel either)05:34
MrUnix*grabs his pipe and a whiskey* This is gonna be cool.05:34
MauritianGuylol MrUnix05:34
Akumamy problem is the following, I have created a website for somebody, the files are located in a remote server for which I am not registered05:34
Akumathe files however do belong to me given that the person in question has not paid me for my work05:35
Akumanow, I still have access to my files05:35
FlannelAkuma: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here (This is ubuntu support only) thanks05:35
Akumawould it be considered an offense to actually delete the stuff that I own on that webserver05:35
Akumaok Flannel, sorry05:35
AkumaI'll swap05:35
robband read the fine print of your contract :)05:36
Akumano contract05:36
iflemaAkuma yep... whats the contract05:36
MauritianGuydepends on where the remote server is located if there are legal laws in the country where the server is located if not u still cant do anything from where u are regardless as u dont have any access to the remote server05:36
iflemaAkuma hmmmm05:36
Akumait's located in canada, however I've tagged my websites with md5 lines05:36
Akumawhich I do as a precaution05:37
robbcanada recognizes ownership until payment05:37
MauritianGuyi think i am right05:37
ardchoilleFlannel has stated that this is OT for this channel folks05:37
Akumaok I'll continue this on the other one05:37
Akumasorry about that05:37
MrUnixAs it's your intellectual property you may do with it as you wish.05:37
MrUnixAnd this is ot05:37
MrUnix!ot | MrUnix05:38
ubottuMrUnix, please see my private message05:38
MrUnixAh damn!05:38
MauritianGuyits beyond me realy i only know that the server is protected by the law in which the country its located05:38
FlannelMauritianGuy, robb, iflema, MrUnix: Join #ubuntu-offtopic and provide insight there, thanks.05:38
MauritianGuythanks Flannel05:38
Salva1Hello.05:38
justin_Hi, I have trouble with my ati graphics card FirePro V375005:38
justin_join #ati05:38
MauritianGuybut can anyone help me with installing an Nvidia driver05:38
MauritianGuyon Ubuntu05:39
ardchoille!nvidia| MauritianGuy05:39
ubottuMauritianGuy: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:39
Salva1Does anyone know why my Nautilus bookmarks get deleted frequently.05:39
robb:)05:39
Salva1?05:39
robboh, ubuntu, why such pain with video cards05:39
myk_robinsonnvm.. updated Banshee to the version in PPA, and it works fine. More normal CPU usage, single digits05:39
zenlunaticzomfgcrazy: did you figure out the windows image thing05:39
robbi guess it's all linux's05:39
robbGPL thing05:39
Salva1This time I ran into almost 0 KB left in one partition.05:39
ardchoilleSalva1: nautilus bookmarks are contained in ~/.gtk-bookmarks is something deleting that file?05:39
Salva1It is very annoying, really.05:40
robbsecurity settings?05:40
ardchoilleMauritianGuy: which nvisia card do you have?05:40
robbsomething like "clear history on close"05:40
MauritianGuyi got one that is ridicously too much for my use but i still want to get it to work its an XFX 9800GT05:41
MauritianGuyi am trying to install 190.5305:41
ardchoilleMauritianGuy: the Hardware Drivers tool should help you with that05:41
Salva1It was working OK in the past 3 or so months.05:41
MauritianGuyi already uninstall driver 173 and 153 as they are not compatible ardchoille05:42
Salva1But this time I got almost 0KB left in one partition and all the bookmarks are gone.05:42
Salva1I fear if some other things are gone too.05:42
MauritianGuycoz_` gave me some instructions couple of minutes ago05:42
MauritianGuybut i got to the part where i have to use the commant letc/init.d/gdm and i got an error no such fine or directory05:43
robboh it's there05:43
myk_robinsonfor anyone who care, actually it seems the high cpu usage in Banshe is directly linked to BPM detection. Turn that off, problem disappears. I was able to duplicate it even after the update05:43
robbsudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:43
ardchoillerobb: I don't think that works on Karmic05:43
robbardchoille: it did on mine...05:44
robbtty7 shut down :)05:44
robbbut also i have a messed up configuration05:44
ardchoilleWell, I also could be wrong05:45
d4n1sup guys, how can i get man pages on fork and other system functions?05:47
Salva1For what is the Gnome virtual filesystem?05:47
MrUnixd4n1, I dislike you and your generalized casual greeting toward me.05:48
MrUnix=P05:48
FlannelMrUnix: Excuse me?05:48
robb'the foreign one'05:48
BwaahMrUnix: I like you and your snarky greeting to the newcomer05:49
MrUnixFlannel, You're exused sir.05:49
MrUnixBwaah, thank you sir. And now back to the topic at hand. (whatever that may be)05:49
d4n1what is wrong MrUnix05:49
ardchoilleMrUnix: Careful05:49
MrUnixd4n1, Nothing. Just a bit of ribbing towards the newcomer.05:49
d4n1lol Bwaah05:49
d4n1lol05:50
firestrideris intels gfx driver any good in terms of video hardware acceleration05:50
Salva1I am getting annoyed of losing user directory data,05:50
d4n1well, i don't know what to say really, but i need man pages on fork, wait, execl05:50
d4n1etc05:50
robbfirestrider: the hardware behind it is generally crud, for acceleration05:50
Salva1It makes me want to switch to Windows.05:51
MrUnixSalva1, What're you losing?05:51
robbSalva1: stop filling your partitions then05:51
robbsame problem will happen on any OS05:51
d4n1don't switch salval05:51
Salva1The .gtk-bookmarks file contents this time.05:51
Salva1I lost Firefox sessions, compiz configurations (I had lost of them).05:52
Salva1In the past.05:52
MrUnixHmmmm05:52
ardchoilleSalva1: are you running a script thatcleans the systemor something?05:52
Salva1But If I fill one, It should not do that, Robb.05:52
drekiwhen i installed ubuntu i checked the encrypt myhome directory thing, how secure is that encryption?05:52
robbdreki: as secure as your passphrase and encryption level05:53
Salva1I do not know, Archoille.05:53
Salva1I did not make one, for sure.05:54
d4n1well guys, what do i need to have man pages on fork, ppid, execl, wait05:54
bikcmpHello all, I'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook05:55
MrUnixWhat's the command to execute a file.run?05:55
bikcmpI tried it a few times05:55
bikcmpMrUnix: ./FILE05:55
bikcmpbut I can't get it to launch05:55
MrUnixbikcmp, thanks05:55
bikcmpMrUnix: make sure it's chmodded05:55
zenlunaticbikcmp: assuming its marked executable05:56
MrUnixbikcmp, I did and I used ./file as well. Hmmmm05:56
bikcmpmaybe zipped05:56
MrUnixI'ma working on it05:56
bikcmpor tared05:56
MrUnixNah, it's a raw file. No wrappings or compression.05:56
bikcmpI'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook05:56
mediaprodigyDoes anyone have the issue where if your computer goes into sleep mode it does not want to wake up.. and it forces you to reboot?05:56
MrUnixbikcmp, what's the issue exactly?05:56
bikcmpSo I install it with wubi05:56
bikcmpand when I reboot it just goes to a busybox screen05:56
MrUnix*facepalm* Wubi. Not my area of expertise. Sorry05:56
bikcmpor a shell05:56
bikcmp:/05:56
bikcmpHP mini 11005:57
drekirobb, how can i check/change the encryption type?05:57
ZykoticK9So the articles about Firefox 3.6 being difficult to install on Linux (specifically Ubuntu) inspired me to try installing it (but failed with the PPA version, from tarball I can get it working) anyone get Firefox 3.6 from the Mozilla PPA working TODAY?  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/361066/ for much more details05:57
zenlunaticmedia`: yeah that can be a case on some laptops for instance05:57
mediaprodigyhappens on my desktop machine.. sucks05:57
zenlunaticmediaprodigy: ^05:57
Blue1mediaprodigy: yup - that's why I never use sleep mode.....doesn't work in windoze either05:57
zenlunaticmy ibook used to do that05:58
mediaprodigyzenlunatic: i read this is easily fixable by making it never go to sleep05:58
bikcmpknow why mine just goes to busybox?05:58
d4n1 fork, system, execl, getpid, getppid, wait, waitpid,  perror and exit. <-- i need their man entries, how can i get them?05:58
Blue1d4n1: those are system processes05:59
Blue1d4n1: except for excel05:59
robbMrUnix: sh blah.run05:59
d4n1yes they are Blue1, but they have man entries06:00
robbat least for the nvidia binaries....06:00
d4n1and i need to lean to use those functions06:00
d4n1but i am clueless06:00
MrUnixrobb, for some reason it had to be run as sudo.06:00
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Salva1Is there some program in Ubuntu that deletes things when is running aout of space?06:00
Blue1d4n1: maybe you're using a different version of ubuntu - but mine does NOT have those06:00
Salva1*Out.06:00
Salva1By default.06:01
d4n1Blue1: exaclty, mine doesnt either06:01
d4n1but my school did06:01
d4n1and i think i need to include manpages-dev06:01
d4n1wait...06:01
Blue1d4n1: and I wouldn't expect they would those are kernel specific06:01
d4n1Blue1: apparently, try it, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev, they are there06:02
d4n1now to learn to use them06:02
Blue1d4n1: that make sense....06:02
Salva1Can anyone tell me what the Gnome virtual filesystem does?06:02
d4n1just finished getting their man entries06:02
Salva1*Do.06:03
d4n1salval: actualy it was does06:04
d4n1yes Blue106:04
d4n1now i need to learn to use them :(06:04
Salva1OK:06:05
Salva1.06:05
Blue1d4n1: I don't do kernel development - sorry I can't help -- now mvs - that's a different story - that and RSX I do know the internals06:05
Blue1d4n1: fork was born in RSX land06:06
mediaprodigyubuntu musicians channel link anyone..06:06
d4n1Blue1, what does that mean?06:07
Blue1d4n1: to fork a process is to send it from kernel process status, to a non-priveleged state to continue processing06:07
MarupaHey there, everyone.  I'm looking to install ubuntu on a 64b box that already has windows7 installed on it.  I've got a raid 0+1 setup (software) which linux sees as the four individual drives it is.  If I were to install using the wubi method, would linux be raided on all four drives?06:08
Blue1d4n1: i.e. nmi vs mi (non-maskable interrupts vs maskable interrupts)06:08
d4n1Blue1: im lost, im kind of a beginer :(, but you know your stuff06:09
Blue1d4n1: yes, but you don't need to know how a car engine works, to drive a car - neither do you need to know the internals of linux to use it.06:10
Blue1hell I used windows for years -06:10
Random832Blue1; um, that's not what fork means in unix at all06:11
zirodayMarupa: unfortunately, no06:11
Random832fork in unix is derived from the idea of a 'fork in the road' - there was one process and now there are two identical processes06:11
Blue1Random832: what does it mean in unix?  that's what it did in rsx anyway06:12
d4n1Blue1: you are absolutely right. But you need to learn to drive it before you hop in the drives seat06:12
theadminHello. Is it possible to make Ubuntu download a specified file every n hours?06:12
zirodaytheadmin: cron and wget06:12
d4n1Blue1: im still at learning06:12
robbtheadmin: cron06:12
Blue1theadmin: cron06:12
QPrimed4n1: the skill sets in this channel are wide, but most of us are beginners or power users... the same general skill sets as with any OS.06:12
theadminbleh, cron. Gotta learn this stuff06:12
MarupaDang.  Is there any way to resize partitions of a raided drive in linux, then?06:12
Random832Blue1; you call the function from your process and now there are two of the process06:12
ardchoilletheadmin: I wrote a cron tutorial, hold on..06:12
Blue1theadmin: man cron - -I think I've an example somewhere06:12
QPrimed4n1: the nice thing with FLOSS is that you get the tools to move from beginner to developer... right out of the box06:13
ardchoilletheadmin: my cron tutorial: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html06:13
Blue1Random832: true but the distinction was when the process was forked, it became a maskable interrupt06:13
d4n1QPrime: what is FLOSS06:13
theadminardchoille: Thanks a lot, reading now06:13
brishuhi folks, i have a question about an app, the alarm-clock to be more precise, whenever i open that guy up, i see a message saying that "my old alarm list is not empty",  now i dont see any menu entries (on the Global menu applet), not do i see any options in there to clear it, is there something i am missing?06:14
Blue1thanks ardchoille I will add a link on pkill-906:14
QPrimed4n1: Free (Libre) Open Source Software  Free (as in beer), Libre (as in freedom)06:14
d4n1QPrime, i wish there was free beer ^_^06:15
Random832how is a process an interrupt?06:15
Blue1d406:15
Blue1d4n1: or free donuts!06:15
Karhuhi..would someone be able to tell me the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" in adept manager please06:15
QPrimed4n1: *grin* well bits 'n bytes are the next best thing...06:15
d4n1Blue1: u just made me hungry06:15
d4n1QPrime: ^_^06:15
MarupaAnyone know if it's possible to assemble a raid in linux and resize the partition?06:16
Blue1Random832: i/o -- parts of it MUST be completed before continuing - starting a device - but once the device is started, then it can be forked to a maskable interrupt to wait for completion06:16
aarcanehow do I prevent update-grub from generating an entry for a specific operating system or partition ?06:16
Random832yeah, that's not what the term 'fork' refers to at all in unix - it doesn't refer to devices at all, it's for programs06:16
Blue1Random832: okay I stand corrected.06:17
Random832you're thinking of the return from the kernel to user code - that's not called fork06:17
Random832in unix06:17
theadminardchoille: Does this look right?06:17
theadmin0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt06:17
theadminOops06:17
theadminDamn enter message breaking :/06:17
theadminardchoille: Does this look right? 0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt06:18
ardchoille00 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt06:18
ardchoilletheadmin: ^^06:19
theadminardchoille: Oops. Thanks06:19
ardchoilletheadmin: that will execute the command at the top of every hour06:19
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theadminardchoille: Yeah, just what I want :D06:19
ardchoilletheadmin: ok06:20
Billiardtheadmin: im not positive but i thought wget needs the -O option to specify filename06:20
theadminBilliard: Uh... Huh? *checks man pages*06:20
theadminBilliard: Ah, that's right06:21
ardchoilletheadmin: wait, you need a cd in there06:21
UK-DOHello guys I need a little brush up bout Ububtu/Kubuntu Which filesystem is best for K/Ubuntu 9,1006:21
theadminUK-DO: Depends on your system and what you like06:22
Blue1UK-DO: depends on what you are doing - but ext4 is the default06:22
BilliardUK-DO: you probably want ext3/406:22
ardchoilletheadmin: that page will get saved as index.html:  00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org06:22
UK-DOI'm avg user and absolute newbie to linux06:22
Blue1UK-DO: take the default - ext4 then06:23
baddogThe default will probably suffice06:23
UK-DOok06:23
theadminardchoille: Okay, here is the full command I have: 00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt06:24
Billiardtheadmin: why not just use -O06:24
* Blue1 wishes there was a reiserfs to ext4 converter - but there isn't 06:24
UK-DOAnd I forgot all that swapspace home dir etc too I don't wish to creat any seperate partition for that I will be using single 19 GB partition for all that stuff  is that gonna be ok ?06:24
ardchoilletheadmin: I was just about to show you how to add a mv command :)06:24
owen1what's the name of this game - multiplayer creatures, that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.06:24
theadminBilliard: %) this will also do I guess... Whatever06:24
Blue1UK-DO: I run linux on an 8 g flash drive- you'd be fine06:24
Billiardtheadmin: idk if it can be done in one command idk why you would want to do it in 306:25
Blue1but I use a different filesystem06:25
ardchoilletheadmin: changing the file extension isn't going to remove the html code from the downloaded page though06:25
Billiardardchoille: i dont think that page has any html06:25
theadminardchoille: I know, but whatismyip.org is just plain-texted current computer IP06:25
Marupatheadmin: not only the IP though.06:26
ardchoilleBilliard: Ah, you're right, it doesn't. I just assumed due to the file extension .html06:26
ezrafreeany ideas what might be happening here: i had slackware installed and then i installed ubuntu to another partition and everything is working great except each time i boot up into one or the other my time is reset somehow. some kind of an mbr issue or something? any ideas06:26
Blue1theadmin: why are you trying to get your ip addy every hour?06:26
theadminMarupa: Huh?06:26
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Blue1ezrafree: ru by chance using the same gui in each os?06:27
Marupatheadmin: Nevermind, was thinking .com, which gives you lots of other crap.06:27
ezrafreeyes i am, gnome06:27
ezrafreeyou mean my wm, right?06:27
UK-DOI tried Kubuntu 9.10 with live CD but could not make network adpters work I have 2 ethernet adpaters 1 is being used other one is unpluged I tried to configure but no luck and I have some PPP network which is needed to start my broadband so am I going to have probs ?06:27
theadminardchoille: Well, there is something wrong there. 00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt looks better.06:27
Blue1ezrafree: ahh the could be an issue - if they both point to the same home directory then the conf files over write each other - I use gnome in one and kde or something else in the other06:27
ezrafreeBlue1: except they are each installed on completely different partitions, so / for slackware is on say /dev/sda1 while ubuntu's / is on /dev/sda306:27
Marupatheadmin, wouldn't it be better to put all that as it's own script and then point cron to the script?06:28
ezrafreethey do share a swap on /dev/sda2 though, could that be the issue?06:28
Blue1ezrafree: I ran into that problem because /home was on a seperate drive - so I used it for both os06:28
ardchoilletheadmin: yeah, if you don't rm it wget will keep adding files with (1), (2), etc06:28
theadminardchoille: Also, what the heck is with this weird filename? /tmp/crontab.H39H3K/crontab? And what is one line doing there? some python script.06:28
DexterLBhi06:28
DexterLBI'm on a fresh install (karmic) on a new PC06:29
owen1what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.06:29
ezrafreeBlue1: ahh gotcha yeah that shouldn't be an issue for me then. this seems more a mbr issue or something... slackware was (is?) using lilo.. while ubuntu uses grub. could that be causing it somehow?06:29
DexterLBI installed compiz and it works (starting it with compiz --replace). Now how do I make it run as gnome default?06:29
ezrafreeisn't the time saved between boots in the cpu somehow?06:29
ardchoilletheadmin: hmm.. no idea06:29
ardchoilledoesn't happen here06:29
Blue1ezrafree: I don't know - I use grub in both ubuntu and suse06:29
ezrafreeDexterLB: have you also installed "fusion-icon"06:29
Marupacan anyone tell me if it's possible to resize a bios-created raid partition?06:30
Billiardtheadmin: i beleive it has you modify a temporary file, and applies the proper locks when it saves the real crontab06:30
theadminBilliard: Ah, I see06:30
ezrafreeDexterLB: if not, install fusion-icon and then set that as a start-up item in gnome06:30
Blue1Billiard: sounds right06:30
UK-DOethernet adpter just wont get configured by DHCP and finding modem from that list is also kinda tricky which one should I choose for PPPoE and dial and update my installtion06:30
ezrafreeBlue1: np, i'll check with the slackware folks06:30
soreauDexterLB: To make it the default, open gnome-appearance-properties (System > Preferences > Appearance) and set the radio button to anything other than None in the Visual Effects tab.06:31
ardchoilletheadmin: Got a better command, hold on06:31
ezrafreemaybe they have some ideas, appreciate the help though06:31
Blue1ezrafree: sorry06:31
DexterLBsoreau: yeah I had that in mind06:31
DexterLBsoreau: but it will erase my compiz settings06:31
ardchoilletheadmin:  00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org -O /path/home-ip.txt06:31
DexterLBsoreau: I'll first export them to a file06:31
Billiardardchoille: you dont need to rm, wget will overwrite06:32
ardchoilletheadmin: of course, change the /path bit06:32
ardchoilleBilliard: Ah, nice to know06:32
Billiardardchoille: you dont need to cd either, just specify the whole path06:32
tolpicoTrying to install Hardy Heron 8.04 Server on Virtual box. Assigned 512 MB RAM, 5GB fixed space. Trying to install gives "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" error. Any ideas what is the problem?06:32
theadminardchoille: %) what's wrong with previous one? Already quit nano :D06:32
ardchoilletheadmin: Nothing really, just trying to get the line as small as possibl, yours will work fine06:32
DexterLBbrb06:32
ardchoilleBilliard: Thanks for the tips :)06:33
Billiardardchoille: np06:33
ardchoilleI love this channel, learn something new everday06:35
UK-DOI have 64 Bit CPU but I'm to install x86 do you think I should download 64 bit K/Ubuntu and is 64 bit OS gonna decrease the # of available apps ?06:37
bazhangUK-DO, no06:37
theadminUK-DO: Normal apps are compiled for both x86 and x64, altough it was a pain to get flash working on x64 someday06:38
MarupaWow, would have thought my question was an easy one.06:38
theadminardchoille: ...Okay... now how do I check whether this crontab really works? Is there some "run now"?06:38
theadminardchoille: Also, I don't get it, is crontab one file, or can there be many?06:39
UK-DOhmm I m still worried bout compatiblity of 64 bit 1st I ll try to make my damn PPP broadband06:39
UK-DO-work*06:39
ardchoilletheadmin: there is one crontab file for each user, but no limit on how many lines/commands you can have06:39
Blue1UK-DO: I've no issues with 64 bit (yet)06:40
ardchoilletheadmin: you can always set the time to a minute from now and see if it works06:40
theadminardchoille: Okay, I'll just paste that command and see what it does for me06:40
ardchoilletheadmin: sometimes the terminal handles things differently than cron, you should really set the time amminute ahead and check it that way06:41
theadminardchoille: A minute ahead? %)06:41
theadminardchoille: But it's 9:39 now, it runs every hour06:41
ardchoilleyes, if your time is 22:40, set it to 22:41 and see if it runs06:41
ardchoilletheadmin: 41 21 * * * command06:42
theadminOkay... let me try that stuff... oh wait, no can do.06:42
theadminMy time is kinda synced from servers06:42
Blue1okay good night folks --06:42
PlimmerI have a samba share where I want to download files to from my server (share and server is the same thing). I want everyone on the network to be able to save/delete/move/write files to this share. However I cant get my default user to have acces to write to this share.06:43
ardchoilleno, set the time in crontab06:43
Billiardtheadmin: he wants you to change the crontab line06:43
PlimmerI did a chmod -R 777 /media/share06:43
theadminWell, I'll just wait and see what happens after 20 minutes. I have time.06:43
PlimmerAnd still nothing.06:43
ardchoillePlimmer: you need sudo for that06:43
UK-DOCan someone be kind enough to tell me what the heck is /modem in PPP config app(Kubuntu) forums says use gnome app but how do use gnome app if there is no network06:43
PlimmerOh yeah, it was with sudo06:43
ardchoillePlimmer: ah, ok06:43
PlimmerBut my torrent client isint able to write to that dir.06:44
PlimmerAnd I have no idear why.06:44
Marupacan anyone answer my question about a software raid partition resize?06:44
theadmin777, 610... those number-based permissions are confusing.06:44
tolpicoWhat is the cause of kernel panic error on a brand new installation, virtual box. :--> http://i46.tinypic.com/be5udh.png06:44
ardchoillePlimmer: sudo chmod -R a+rw06:44
Marupatheadmin, not so much:  4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = execute.  4+2 = read/write, 4+2+1 = read/write/execute.06:45
ardchoilleThat will make it read/write for all users06:45
theadminMarupa: 4+2 as in 6?06:45
Marupatheadmin, yep!06:45
Plimmerardchoille: Still not able to.06:45
Billiardardchoille: 777 should have already made it all rwx06:45
drmrhorsehow do i keep usb sticks from automounting?06:45
ardchoilleBilliard: yeah06:45
ardchoillePlimmer: weird06:46
Plimmerdrwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 disk106:46
BilliardPlimmer: ls -ld /media/share  shows it as 777?06:46
xnixanHi, is there any good SWF player for linux?06:46
theadminCan I remove this white Ubuntu logo on boot?06:46
Billiardxnixan: flashplayer?06:46
Plimmerdrwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 /media/disk106:46
Marupatheadmin, and the xxx format is 'self' 'group' 'world'.  so 700 would give you full access but nobody else has access, 770 would be you full access, anyone in your usergroup full access, and nobody else has any access.06:46
Plimmerdisk1 = share06:46
ardchoilleBilliard: I dislike recursive octal settings because some people think it's ok to chmod -R 700 and then wonder why they can't acccess the dir (removed x bit for folders)06:47
Billiardardchoille: i woudnt do it either, but he already did it, and it should be writable06:47
ardchoilleyeah, good point06:47
xnixanBilliard, thanks, but i think i was not clear, i need a player with controllers for pausing, rewind, and forward!06:47
robbmplayer!06:48
Billiardxnixan: rewinding swf?06:48
theadminxnixan: Hm, I think VLC plays this stuff... there is nothing so far it did not play for me :D06:48
ardchoillexnixan: xine plays .swf files06:48
robboh, swf06:48
UK-DOPlz xplain bit bout this so I can get my damn broadband work for Kubuntu "Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter......"06:48
xnixanBilliard, yes!06:48
ardchoillexnixan: isn't that a bit like rewinding a dvd?06:48
* ardchoille hides06:48
robbi think it supports flv06:48
robbis not quite the same tho?06:48
xnixanardchoille, yup!06:49
BilliardPlimmer: your torrent client is on the same machine or trying to write through samba share?06:49
PlimmerYes06:50
theadminAnyway, any good download manager with support for HTTP AND torrents? I don't like running both gwget and transmission.06:50
BilliardPlimmer: wasnt a yes/no question06:50
PlimmerThe share and torrent client is on the same machine06:50
BilliardPlimmer: ok, which torrent client? and it tells you doesnt have write permission? you sure you are saving to the correct directory?06:51
Plimmerrtorrent06:51
PlimmerGod..06:51
Plimmer2 secs06:51
ardchoilleBilliard: "do you want a red one or a blue one".. "yes!" hehe06:52
UK-DOHow do I do this Plz Plz clarify a bit >>>>"Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter."06:52
UK-DOHow do I boot with any parameters06:53
PlimmerIt wasent saving the right place.. Thats a couple of hours I'll never see again.06:53
drmrhorsehow do i keep usb sticks from automounting?06:54
theadminUK-DO: It seems like you need to press some key in installer... uhm... I don't know, which lets you modify the boot parameters, and just add modules=ppp-udeb at the end of line06:54
Billiarddrmrhorse: gnome-volume-manager handles that i believe, so you could try disabling it maybe06:55
UK-DOtheadmin: If I don't do that I wont be able to install and use my broadband it goes through PPP06:55
UK-DOThats why I'm looking up on google too06:56
drmrhorsehmm ty06:56
theadminUK-DO: I've no idea, there is this little gnome-ppp (or kppp) package for that... I configured my PPTP-VPN single-handely when installing the OS. Resolving dependencies manually was a mess, cause installing the packages with no internet is a pain in... well, basically everywhere06:57
drmrhorseBilliard: i dont see gnome-volume-manager anywhere06:57
UK-DOI decided to go with Kubuntu I tried live CD too but KPPP fails to start network06:58
Billiarddrmrhorse: anywhere? where did you look06:58
drmrhorsegconf06:58
Plazma/awa06:58
Billiarddrmrhorse: could try uninstalling it06:58
drmrhorsethat doesnt seem wise06:58
Billiarddrmrhorse: if there are problems just reinstall it06:59
drmrhorseright06:59
Karhuhi everyone...i have an nvidia tnt2 card installed running kubuntu 8.10...i have insalled the restricted nvidia driver for my card but for some reason everything still seems very sluggish eg. webpages seem laggy when i scroll through them and i was wondering if anyone here had any ideas as to why its like that07:00
kaushalhi07:00
omologoshi07:00
kaushalhttp://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/099 --> what does file(*) means ?07:01
omologosdoes anybody know why java isn't included in ubuntu?07:01
darthanubisomologos, because it is java07:01
darthanubis!java07:01
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:01
MarupaI've got a software(fake) raid set up that already has windows installed, how would I set it up so that linux can read this partition?07:02
omologosi've already installed java07:02
darthanubis!dmraid07:02
omologosi'm just curious why isn't it preinstalled if it's GPL07:02
darthanubisomologos, I did not ask you that07:02
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darthanubisthere are alot of GPL stuff not preisntalled07:03
omologosdarthanubis: no, it was I who asked...07:03
Marupadarthanubis: apparently that didn't do anything?07:03
omologosyeah, but java is a very commonly needed thing07:03
darthanubismaybe you thought ubuntu was mint?07:03
theadminardchoille: My thank you, it worked very smooth, I didn't even notice anything.07:03
theadminomologos: Yeah, and mp3 codecs too, yet you don't complain about them ;) not everybody needs it.07:04
Billiardomologos: probably because it is not needed by everyone and it is somewhat large, i dont use any java software07:04
omologosah, ok07:04
UK-DOOk thanks for the help I ll install the Kubuntu 1st worry bout broadband later :\07:05
Karhunoone can help with my graphics issues?07:07
theadminKarhu: If nobody anwers, nobody knows... but what are the issues?07:07
Karhuim running an nvidia tnt2 card with kububuntu 8.10 with restricted drivers installed but everything still seems very sluggish graphically07:08
Karhuwas just wondering if anyone had any ideas07:08
BilliardKarhu: are the drivers enabled?07:08
theadminKarhu: sluggish? Like, is the image blurry or something?07:08
Karhuyeah they are enabled07:08
BilliardKarhu: how did you install the drivers?07:09
Karhuno sluggish like webpages etc seem to be laggy when they scroll07:09
Karhuthrough the hardware thingo07:09
theadminKarhu: Maybe it's a memory issue?07:09
Karhuhardware drivers manager07:09
thinkertinkerHi there,The option for connecting Internet via blue-tooth doesn't seem to work in my Ubuntu9.10. NM ,Network-Manager Applet 0.7.996,Is this a known issue or am i wrong somewhere?07:10
Karhuhmm well i only have 512Mb RAM but it ran perfectly fine with windows xp07:10
theadminKarhu: Ah... 512? Kubuntu was incredibly slow with that for me... you should try using GNOME over KDE, it works smoother07:10
Karhui tried gnome and it was just the same :-(07:10
theadminKarhu: Hm, then it's not the problem07:11
daeogot a question about installing 9.10 , it seems the installer is stuck on detecting my harddrives and setting up the partitioner how may I find out if there are any errors? im currently in the live cd run right now07:11
Karhui have seen pc's run like this on windows when there were no drivers installed07:12
theadmindaeo: Have you checked whether the CD is burned and downloaded correctly?07:12
Billiarddaeo: did you verify the cd burned correctly?07:12
bazhangdaeo, did you md5 the iso before burning at a very low speed? do the disk integrity check as well?07:12
daeoit was ordered from the website i got it yesterday07:12
daeoso im sure the cd is good07:12
cjae!pictures07:12
k0shwill ubuntu autodetect properietary drivers and install them? i try to deploy system on many desktops via network-booting and want to know if such procedure autoexist in ubuntu07:12
daeook now i just got an error..07:12
k0sh?07:12
daeoubiquity.components.partman failed with exit code 14107:13
daeochecking /var/log/syslog07:13
bazhangdaeo, getting the cd in the mail is not a guarantee the disk is good07:13
daeowell everything but this one part seems to be fine.. odd07:14
daeochecking the log file now..07:14
Billiardk0sh: some will show up under the hardware drivers section from the menu, such as nvidia video drivers07:14
cjaedaeo: the disc has a check option upon booting it - not that thats the problem07:15
theadminWell, k0sh, here we have this kinda thing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png didn't see anything like his on KDE.07:15
daeoright, ok so assuming is not the cd.. i was able to open the disk manager in the menus and saw all of my drives07:16
daeoso what might I check to find my issue? im not getting much from syslog07:16
daeowell rather i can't understand it07:16
k0shtheadmin: what im looking for is some automatic way to setup proper drivers, probably before x starts, since i want to have one nfsroot from which all desktops will use it07:16
theadmink0sh: o_O I don't know how to set them up with no X, except for installing the packages manually07:17
cjaedaeo: are trying to dual boot or do you have ms windows drives in the machine (ntfs)07:17
Karhuok everybody thanks very much for your time maybe this load of updates im installing will help the issue :-)07:17
MHz128hi all07:17
daeoyes, when i was on 8.10 i would dual boot and am trying to install over it so yes very much so am i doing that07:17
theadminHi, MHz12807:17
daeoprimay disc is win xp07:18
daeo2nd is going to be my reinstall of ubuntu07:18
MHz128I am unable to browse the web while connecting to a WPA2 router, however, another WEP router works just fine. I keep getting 'unable to resolve host' ... any ideas?07:18
k0shtheadmin: thx i guess :)07:18
theadmink0sh: No problem, altough I did not help >_<07:18
MHz128both connections are strong, and my native rtl8187 driver works great07:18
cjaedaeo: I dont think the linux ntfs driver needs to have the ntfs drives in *good shape* as much as it did before but it is good habbit to make sure that they are07:19
k0shtheadmin: nah, you helped, at least i know more or less how it looks like :)07:19
MHz128Under Windows, I am able to connect to the WPA encrypted router... linux, not so much :p07:19
daeook might there be a way for me to skip the ntfs drive scanning? i'd like for it to see windows but not waste its time i suppose... and i'd rather not spend 3 hours waiting for windows to defrag07:22
cjaedaeo: you could also try downloading and installing from an alternate install disc (these have tend to have more options) and make sure your bios settings are good07:23
theadminSigh, another disconnect :/07:24
firestriderhey does ubuntu do ram prefetching07:24
cjaedaeo: I had a dual boot system the same for many release installs, and have run into problems with the live installer especially naming the drives incorrectly07:24
abumaiaI'm a relatively new linux user, been mucking about with ubuntu for about 2 weeks now.  Do I need to be looking at any antivirus and firewall programs?07:25
theadmincjae: Naming? /dev/sda1 is /dev/sda1, and that's all %)07:25
daeohrm07:25
theadminabumaia: No, Ubuntu is safe from viruses07:25
theadminabumaia: Quite as any Linux system07:25
abumaiaok.. how about firewalls?07:26
theadminabumaia: Depending on whether you want them or not :D07:26
daeocjae: so im in a pickle here i'd rather _not_ have to download it thats why i ordered the cd... is there no other way?07:26
cjaedaeo: eg. for 6.06 to 8,04 reinstalls windows = /dev/sda all of a sudden 8.10 windows =/dev/sdb and boot laoder was added to wrong mbr07:26
cjaedaeo: just letting you know of my troubles with live installers07:27
daeoi see07:27
firestrideryou know of any businesses that use linux clients07:27
daeowell i didn't actually pick the live install07:27
daeowhen i started the install i did the regular install option not, let me see and try07:27
daeoso after it hung the first time i canceled the installer and it took me to the live run07:27
theadminThis "Install Ubuntu" on 9.04 CD did not work for me, black screen07:28
theadminBut all went fine from Live session ^_^07:28
icerootfirestrider: sure but that is offtopic07:29
abumaiamy 9.10 install(s) went fine both Live and straight from the cd boot menu07:29
firestridersigh I'm always off topic07:30
daeook so assuming its not the installer ... how else can i proceed?07:30
Blue1i have a cyberpower cp550sl ups - where can I find software for it?  coming up dry on google07:30
Blue1!hcl | blue107:30
ubottuBlue1, please see my private message07:30
abumaiaBlue1: their website doesn't have anything for you?07:30
Blue1abumaia: i haven't seen any I'll keep looking -- it shipped with only windoze software07:31
Blue1abumaia: it just says this in the hcl:  genericups upstype=707:32
cyrus_mcI am trying to do something like find /etc/conf.d | tar cfv to create an archive frmo the files in conf.d but the tar command isn't workign. Anyone know how to do that07:32
abumaiaBlue1: oh yeah, the website has Linux software for that UPS07:33
daeook thanks for the help given.. i suppose i won't be getting anywhere with this then.07:33
abumaia32 (and 64) bit Shutdown software for HID USB and serial UPS07:33
cjaedaeo: fix ntfs first, then check cd then come back and ask07:33
Blue1abumaia: ahh let me try it thanks07:34
cjaedaeo: http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/pub/releases/karmic/  the alternate disc is one the page07:34
MHz128hi07:37
MHz128how do I clearn the dns cache?07:37
MHz128clear07:37
BilliardMHz128: i beleive ubuntu doesnt have any sort of dns cache by default07:38
MHz128oh07:39
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Blue1abumaia: okay it's installed but how do I run it?07:39
abumaiaBlue1:  sorry, but I have no idea.  I just went to the website to confirm if they had linux software available, I don't have any of their products.07:40
dragonHow do I check whether my OS is 32-bit or 64-bit? It's Friday night, so someone needs to remind me.07:40
mneptokdragon: uname -a07:41
hiexpogood evening all07:41
dragonmneptok: Linux hostname 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux07:41
mneptokdragon: right07:41
dragonmneptok: does that mean i386?07:41
mneptokdragon: yes07:41
icerootdragon: dpkg --print-architecture07:42
dragoniceroot: that's a better one, thanks.07:42
icerootdragon: but more to write :(07:42
dragonthough `uname -a` would work on all UNIX systems I think.07:42
dragoniceroot: autocomplete FTW07:43
dragon:)07:43
icerootdragon: correct, mine is only working on debian based distris07:43
abumaiaiceroot: does that show if you have a 64-capable processor, or just whether you have the 32 or 64 version of ubuntu installed?07:43
icerootabumaia: its showing what you have installed07:43
dragonabumaia: the version of OS, that is, ubuntu07:43
abumaiahow do you find out if your processor is 64-capable?07:44
dragonabumaia: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo07:44
icerootabumaia: lm in /proc/cpuinfo07:44
dragonabumaia: if there's lm under flags, your processor supports 64-bit OSes.07:44
icerootabumaia: imo lm stands for large memory i think07:44
abumaiayeah, it shows up twice07:45
abumaiasweet, next time I do a reinstall, I'll try the 64 version07:45
dragonabumaia: most of the newer machines (intel core etc.) are 64-bit.07:45
icerootabumaia: you only need 64bit if you have 4gb and more07:46
dragoniceroot: 3GiB07:46
abumaiahmm, nope, only got 3gb ram07:46
Dr_Willis64bit can help math intensive tasks also. like video reencoding and so forth07:46
abumaiaI do run a lot of BOINC though07:46
icerootdragon: 3gb ram + adrress bus should be fine with 32bit07:46
Dr_Willisi  also found it easier to go all 64bit on my 4 pc  Lan. that way i can cach the same packages on one server. :)07:47
dragonMy P4 box had the lm flag present for some reason. I'm running 64-bit karmic on it now.07:47
Gneahrm, isn't there a way to get java to work in firefox 3.5 for 9.04?07:49
GneaI've tried installing the !java way, but no go07:49
icerootGnea: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin07:49
dragonGnea: did you install the plugin the iceroot way?07:50
Gneait's still downloading07:50
icerootGnea: i had the same problem some days ago, i was download jre and not the plugin07:50
Gneawell it's almost done :)07:51
abumaiaI had that same problem when I first installed ubuntu.  It's a little confusing for a newbie ^_^07:51
keepsakeAny way to change audio codecs in karmic? My sound quality is trash.07:51
hiexpoi have boticed a lot of the times it can be a 64 bit processor but only be a 32 bit system07:51
iceroothiexpo: sure07:52
iceroothiexpo: amd64 cpus can run 32bit nativ07:52
hiexpoyep07:52
hiexpothats what mine is07:52
hiexpoi have ro throtle mine down cause it gets to hot sometimes07:53
UK-DOHello guys I need some criticle help for setting up ppp broadband I tried hard but I cant seem to make it work07:53
Gneaiceroot: thank you :)07:54
icerootGnea: np07:54
dragonUK-DO: how far did you get?07:54
atomfoxNeed help trying to edit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu but the changes I made don't apply07:55
UK-DOI installed kubuntu and configured my Username password and phone no07:56
UK-DObut it needs to configure modem I cant do that07:56
UK-DOPhone no is not really phone no its server name "abc/abc"07:56
atomfoxanyone?07:57
kermiachey ppl anyone use quassel & know how to ignore CTCP or Version requests from the spam bots? I can't seem to get it right07:57
kermiacI asked in #quassel, but maybe they're all asleep?07:58
Dr_WillisUK-DO:  how are you connecting exactly?07:58
icerootkermiac: /ignore * CTCP  or something like that. look at /help ignore07:58
kermiacty iceroot. I'll give that a try :)07:58
icerootkermiac: /IGNORE * CTCPS07:58
abumaiaatomfox:  sudo gedit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu ?07:59
iceroot!gksudo | abumaia07:59
ubottuabumaia: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)07:59
UK-DO1st it needs to connect LAN then dial a server to start broadband thorugh PPP07:59
UK-DOeverything goes throuh ethernet twisted pair07:59
atomfoxabumaia, I edited it already the problem is it dont apply to my menu bar, the things I added does not appear on my menu bar :(08:00
icerootatomfox: you have to restart the menu-bar/panel08:00
abumaiaiceroot:  I'm still trying to figure out when something is graphical or not.  ^_^08:00
icerootabumaia: everything starting with g is grapchical norally08:01
abumaiaatomfox: did a logout-login not help?08:01
owen1what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.08:01
atomfoxnope08:01
icerootabumaia: but of course you want sudo vim instead of gksudo gedit :)08:01
atomfoxabumaia, nope08:02
abumaiahehe.  I'm still new to this, not sure if I'm ready yet to move up from gedit ^_^08:02
owen1abumaia: no worries. vim is a life-changing tool08:02
robbaren't they all08:02
icerootabumaia: yes the first time you see vim you will be afraid but ofter some time you will see how mich powerfull vim is08:03
UK-DOI cant really understand this bcoz I'm still a newbie otherwise I could have tried this to install PPP during Kubuntu install  >>>>>> Installing over PPPoE is mostly the same as any other installation. The following steps explain the differences.Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter. This means that at the boot prompt you should enter:08:03
NotTooSmartwhy does my swap some times work on boot, and others not load, and when I try to do sudo swapon -a it says, swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptoswap: open failed: No such device or address08:05
abumaiait's almost like learning a different language.  you have to use different forms of some words depending on what you're talking about, just like you have to use different forms of sudo depending on what you're running ^_^08:06
CoJaBo-AztecI have a source file that includes #include <openssl/bn.h>. What needs to be installed to make this work?08:08
CoJaBo-AztecIs there a dev package or something? The obvious, apt-get install openssl, reports its already installed.08:08
SlartNotTooSmart: how is your swap defined in fstab?08:08
NotTooSmartSlart:08:09
NotTooSmart/dev/mapper/cryptoswap none swap sw 0 008:09
icerootCoJaBo-Aztec: try apt-file search bn.h  (before install apt-file and run sudo apt-file update)08:09
SlartCoJaBo-Aztec: libssl-dev is the one you're looking for..08:09
UK-DOI think it was easier in Ubuntu 8.10 I could configure SLIP connection and network would start as it should be. So is there no way I can make it work for Kubuntu 9.1008:10
SlartCoJaBo-Aztec: and I agree with iceroot.. apt-file is a wonderful little tool for these kinds of problems08:10
CoJaBo-AztecThanks, that should turn out to be very helpful o_O08:10
CoJaBo-Aztec sudo apt-get install libssl-dev08:10
CoJaBo-Aztecoops08:11
Slart!find openssl/bn.h08:11
ubottuFile openssl/bn.h found in libssl-dev, libxmlsec1-dev08:11
Slartubottu is also a nice tool =)08:11
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:11
CoJaBo-Azteclol08:11
icerootSlart: but not intelligent :)08:11
Slarticeroot: hehe08:11
CoJaBo-AztecI guess thats why they call it a "tool"...08:11
CoJaBo-AztecLOL08:11
SlartNotTooSmart: could it be a race condition? that /dev/mapper isn't created when it tries to mount the swap?08:12
CoJaBo-AztecYay, it compiles now! xD08:12
NotTooSmartSlart: my encrypted drive always works ... and /dev/mapper/cryptoswap is always created08:12
FIlaletHi everyone08:13
SlartNotTooSmart: no error messages in syslog or kern.log?08:13
NotTooSmartSlart: how do I check?08:13
UK-DOI ll try this "install modules=ppp-udeb" lessee what happens :\08:13
SlartNotTooSmart: gedit /var/log/syslog    and   gedit /var/log/kern.log    try searching from the end08:14
iflemaSlart tail08:15
NotTooSmartSlart: Jan 22 06:27:15 media kernel: [56884.010887] FAT: Directory bread(block 275) failed but its not FAT ?08:15
infidhow come karmic doesn't have an ~/.Xauthority file?08:16
Slartiflema: we're looking for an error message that has happened sometimes during the last couple of boots.. might as well look at the entire file08:16
UK-DOThe PPPoE connection set up during the installation will also be available after the reboot into the installed system (see Chapter 7,Booting Into Your New Ubuntu System). <<<<<<<<<< ANY help bout this08:17
SlartNotTooSmart: never seen that message before.. not really sure what it means..08:17
abumaiaOn a previous installation, I told ubuntu to install with an encrypted home directory.  But whenever I logged in, I was unable to use synaptic, update manager, pretty much any program that asks for a password before starting.  It only did that when the home directory was encrypted.  When I reinstalled with an unencrypted home, everything worked as it should.  Is there something special that needs to be done when using an encrypted home, to make those prog08:17
iflemaSlart more08:17
kaushalchecking in again for my query ?08:17
Slartiflema: got something against gedit? why not "cat" when we're at it?08:18
NotTooSmartSlart: it is actually a server install ;-P08:18
iflemaSlart yeah good one.... ill put a screen lock on asap ;)08:18
* iflema busted08:19
Slartiflema: =)08:19
SlartNotTooSmart: ahem.. well.. =)08:19
NotTooSmartso if the device is created, and referenced correctly in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab08:19
NotTooSmartwhat can the problem be08:19
isolat3dsh33pI'm watching a movie from a shared folder in my friends computer and it's always get stuck, is there anyway to make it faster besides downloading the file from the network?08:19
SlartNotTooSmart: I can't really think of any other reason for it to work *some* of the time...08:21
NotTooSmartSlart: me either08:21
NotTooSmartSlart: well I think I just fixed it by re-creating the swap partition08:24
abumaiathat sounds almost face-palm worthy08:25
SlartNotTooSmart: huh? I'm happy for you.. but I still don't understand why that would work08:25
NotTooSmartSlart: alright, neither do I08:25
NotTooSmartSlart: Probably because your right and on reboot it goes back to not working.08:27
* iflema little shit08:27
NotTooSmartlol08:27
SlartNotTooSmart: you could of course try not mounting the swap in the fstab and create a script that runs on boot with a sleep 10; create swap08:28
SlartNotTooSmart: but that's kind of like giving up =)08:29
NotTooSmartSlart: yea, but its kind of easy ;-p08:29
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NotTooSmartdo you have ideas on how to fix the problem then :-)08:30
zetherooI wish F-spot would not create a copy of all my photos ... isn't there some app that uses a database or something to sort the pics instead of physically creating duplicates of everything?08:31
SlartNotTooSmart: nope.. I've been googling about swap and encryption.. haven't found anything useful yet08:31
NotTooSmartSlart: /etc/crypttab is also involved08:32
infidwhy doesn't ubuntu 9.10 come with an ~/.Xauthority file?08:32
NotTooSmartSlart: cryptoswap /dev/sda5 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 is the line im using08:32
ghostknifeWith the new ubuntu's there is no xorg.conf by default. I need to add some settings to xorg.conf, how can I generate one with my current settings so I can change it. I don't want to create one and have to struggle to get settings into it that matches my current working configuration.08:33
EmLeXnvidia-xconfigure?08:33
EmLeXnvidia-xconfig*08:34
EmLeXghostknife:08:34
Slartinfid: here's some info on that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteXHowTo08:35
ghostknifeEmLeX: thanks. "aticonfig --initial" seemed to generate something. Now just to try it out08:35
trollboyis the weather app not updating for anyone else?08:36
EmLeXah u have ati sorry08:36
robertneville777Whatsup guys!08:36
FloodBot1NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.08:36
abumaiatrollboy: which weather app?08:36
infidslart heh i'm actually already reading that, but that tells me it creates a file in /tmp, but i've looked in there and it didnt08:36
Duderhi, i need to make a bootable usb install disk of ubuntu that will run on computers which do not support booting from usb08:36
bazhangDuder, that does not make sense08:37
DuderCan unetbootin format the usb disk to cdfs08:37
dnm_i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive08:37
Slartinfid: hmm.. same thing here... odd08:37
Duderi did it before with windows 708:37
dnm_help plz08:37
infidslart i'm reading the xauth man page and i think i need to do the xauth extract stuff to get the cookie on the client machine08:38
EmLeXhave any1 tested if it is any delay whit full hdd encryption on things in ubuntu?08:38
Duderthen my bios recognized my usb as a cd08:38
dcntrctHi.  I would like to upgrade my Jaunty Jackalope to a Karmic Koala but when I attempt to do so it says it plans to REMOVE mysql5-server.  That scares the crap out of me... does that mean my database data will disappear ?!08:38
rumpsydcntrct: i think it will not08:38
dnm_i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive ... any help08:39
dcntrcthrmmm... "I think" is not reassuring enough... I suppose I will have to figure out how to backup my data ;)08:39
rumpsytake a backup of your db and tables if you afraid of08:39
joyce_Hello can someone please tell me how to match all files that are not jpg|gif|png|ico in FilesMatch directive of apache08:39
Slartinfid: well.. I suppose the man pages should be trusted.. I don't have a better alternative solution08:39
dcntrctyeah08:39
dcntrctthanks08:39
Kvistl08:39
Dr_Willisdnm_:  if your linux filesystems are full.. they are full or getting full.  you did a normal install? not a Wubi Install?08:39
spersaudwhat will be the next release of ubuntu ?08:40
Dr_Willisdnm_:  or are you refering to the windows fileysstems?08:40
bazhangspersaud, April08:40
Dr_Willis!release | spersaud08:40
ubottuspersaud: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:40
abumaiaspersaud, 10.04 Lucid Lynx, in april08:40
dnm_dr_willis: i am not sure on that .. i get htis pop up on my ubuntu interface telling i have 170mb free space08:40
actionparsnipDnm_: does df -h say the same?08:41
glassresistorso i just "upgraded" to an ssd on my dell inspion 1545 thinkin it would give me another hour or so of battery life but its actually cut it down an hour08:41
dnm_actionparsnip: wats df -h08:41
actionparsnipDnm_: a terminal command08:41
abumaiaglassresistor:  downgrade to the original drive then?08:42
dnm_actionparsnip: k can you feed me in more on that08:42
glassresistorim running karmic on ext2 with most of my IO set to tmpfs08:42
Slartglassresistor: hmm.. I was thinking of doing the same on my laptop.. wonder why that is08:42
actionparsnipDnm_ open a terminal and type "df -h" without the "s08:42
NotTooSmartSlart: maybe i should go about writing that script ;-p08:42
Dr_Willisdnm_:  empty the 'trash' and perhaps clean out stuff you dont need.   check your filesystems to see what all is taking up space. How big is your / filesystem and your  /home ?08:42
glassresistorabumaia: well yeah maybe go back but it boots much faster and programs are snappier but im still confused as to why08:42
spersaudwhat are the benefits of Ubuntu vs Debian ?08:43
actionparsnipDnm_: same free space?08:43
actionparsnip!ot | spersaud08:43
ubottuspersaud: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:43
dnm_actionparsnip: did tat08:43
glassresistorspersaud: ubuntu is easier debian is more open08:43
icerootspersaud: debian = stable without usability, ubuntu = not stable like debian with usability08:43
actionparsnipDnm: does it give the same result for free space?08:43
EmLeXhave any1 gotn a 1400x900 tty1 shell before cant pick that res in grub208:43
glassresistoris there a tool for listing the different devices power usage in real time?08:44
icerootglassresistor: maybe powertop08:44
SlartNotTooSmart: try asking the channel again.. perhaps someone else has run into the same problem08:44
actionparsnipEmlex: its a setting in. /etc/default/grub read this:08:44
actionparsnip!grub2 | emlex08:45
ubottuemlex: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub208:45
dnm_actionparsnip: sent u teh feedback to a sepertae window08:45
glassresistoriceroot: powertop tells me what an apps power consumption is08:45
glassresistoriceroot: and it just keeps saying i should auto suspend my usb08:45
dnm_dr_willis: the trash u mean is the one on the mainpage rite ???08:45
icerootglassresistor: ah ok, the sorry08:46
zetherooin ##linux a guy is saying that in Ubuntu you don't use sudo to enter your root password ?!08:46
Dr_Willisdnm_:  err.. yes.. the trashcan. :)08:46
Dr_Williszetheroo:  sudo is for the USERS password08:46
Dr_Williszetheroo:  theres no default root user password08:46
dnm_dr_willis: tats empty08:46
trollboyWeather Report 2.28.0 is failing to update, is this happening for anyone else?08:47
Dr_Willisdnm_:  time to learn some linux basics and how your filesystems are laid out and figure out where your space went. How much space did  You allocate to linux anyway>08:47
zetherooDr_Willis: so is that a security issue?08:47
zetherooDr_Willis: cause that is whats being said08:47
spersaudDr_Willis: are you really a PHD or of the like ?08:47
sebsebseb!noroot |  zetheroo08:47
ubottuzetheroo: We do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information.08:47
zetherooDr_Willis: can you install Ubuntu without setting a sudo password?08:48
trollboyspacey, Dr_Willis did his post-doctorate work at evil university08:48
dnm_dr_willis:  u r rite ... i think when i was installing it .. it asked me the same question .. i dont remember what i entered .. i think 4 or 8 gb08:48
sebsebsebzetheroo: by the default  you just use sudo when you want root for anything08:48
icerootzetheroo: without sudo you cant manage your system08:48
Slartzetheroo: not really a security issue.. you use the same password to access sudo as you do to login..08:48
zetherooright ...08:48
Dr_Williszetheroo:  whats a security issue?    the phrase 'sudo password' is incorrect. You set up sudo to allow USERS to do specicif things.. its the users password they enter to gain sudo privialges08:48
trollboyHi OhioEric what part of ohio?08:48
zetheroobut can you leave the password area blank when installing Ubuntu?08:49
sebsebsebzetheroo: maybe, but that woudn't be a good idea08:49
icerootzetheroo: dont do something like that08:49
sebsebsebzetheroo: you should have a password with letters and numbers at least08:49
Dr_Willisdnm_:  sounds like you shoudl of allocated more space.. 4gb is very tiny.. 8gb is useable.. if you are carefull time to clean out stuff.. or get more space.08:49
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Slartzetheroo: sudo offers you a bit mre granularity.. ie you can allow one user to only run the backup software as root.. but he/she can't run other commands.. with a root password it's all or nothing08:49
sebsebsebzetheroo: and at least 8 characters I would say, but I guess the longer the better really08:49
Dr_Williszetheroo:  i doubt if the installer will let you enter a blank user password.08:49
zetheroohmmm ok08:50
dnm_dr_willis:  i would like the second option .. how do i get more space08:50
iceroot!tab | dnm_08:50
ubottudnm_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:50
zetheroobasically they are saying to not use a debian distro is security matters to me ...08:50
sebsebsebDr_Willis: well 123 has been possible, if I remember correctly08:50
SlartDr_Willis: I think it will complain at least.. it does that when I use 4 letter passwords for my account.. but it creates them08:50
Dr_Willisdnm_:  live cd and gparted and resize.. or reinstall. and give it more space.08:50
neil_dI am having trouble with a raid1 setup.. I am trying to test if all the setups are done right, by turning the computer off, removing a HDD and seeing if it will boot...  grub is installed on both HDD and I do get a menu :) but it doesn't boot.  :( I can manage to get it to start the (initramfs) :)  but the raid1 isn't configured properly... can someone help?08:50
SlartDr_Willis: that's in a vm, btw... not on my real system08:50
Dr_WillisSlart:  yea. I always use the same password normally :) so o dont try others.08:51
* Dr_Willis recalls a bug a few releases back where you could make a initial user with the name 'root' :)08:51
Slartzetheroo: buy a good book on linux security and systems management.. it will do more to secure your system than selecting some special distro08:51
dnm_dr_willis:  i dont want to unistall n reinstall08:51
leofenghuang难道没有中国人?08:51
OhioEricCleveland08:52
zetherooSlart: right08:52
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bazhangleofenghuang, /join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese08:52
dnm_dr_willis:  is there an easier option08:52
icerootdnm_: type dr and then press the tab-key (two arrows on it)08:52
glassresistoriceroot: is not problem thanks for the help but any idea on how switchin an hd can increase power usae08:52
OhioEricfor whomever asked08:52
maco!cn | leofenghuang08:52
ubottuleofenghuang: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk08:52
zetherooin Ubuntu the user password is what is used to gain root level privileges - no?08:52
bazhangtheadmin, its cn or zh or tw08:52
Slartzetheroo: yes08:52
dnm_iceroot: thanks .. that was helpful :-)08:52
hyperstreamWhy would urlsnarf or wireshark stop internet traffic on an airbase-ng  soft AP(when a client is connect and its using the wlan0 to provide net to wlan2(SoftAP) its also very slow(with good signal)08:52
theadminbazhang: Sorry, messed a bit08:52
Slartzetheroo: if your user is an admin user, that is08:52
zetherooSlart: ok08:52
icerootzetheroo: maybe have a look at  man sudo08:53
Dr_Willisdnm_:   gparted to resize or reinstall.. pick one..  or make a new partition to put /home on and leave the 8gb just for / , If you just got 4gb for / - then I suggest  making it at least 10gb08:53
theadminmy first shell script, yay :D... okay, sorry, this was offtopic08:53
zetheroothis is utter bs ... "(19:22:54) valan: zetheroo perhaps in the last year they changed the default, but a year ago you didn't need a password at all to access root via sudo" ...08:53
dnm_Dr_Willis: gparted to resize08:53
Slartzetheroo: bs..08:53
gerardp200008:53
Dr_WillisYou can set it where you dont need a password to sudo... but thats not reccomended. :)08:54
Slartzetheroo: it's been the same way for at least 3 years or so08:54
theadminzetheroo: No... I did use Ubuntu around a year, you always needed a password to gain root08:54
zetherooexactly08:54
icerootzetheroo: in every ubuntu and debian relase you need a password for sudo by default08:54
Slartzetheroo: but we can only speak for the ubuntu distros.. there are lots of derivatives out there08:54
zetherooI have used it since 2005 and always needed my admin password08:55
hyperstreamzetheroo, sudo su -08:55
hyperstreamzetheroo, careful with it.08:55
Dr_Willissudo su - is redundant. :)08:55
zetherooSlart: well he is talking about Ubuntu08:55
hyperstreamDr_Willis, i use it daily :)08:55
theadminWhat's that, sudo su? sudo -i is the recommended way08:55
Dr_Willishttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/08:55
Dr_Willishyperstream:  learn better habbits08:55
hyperstreamtheadmin, whats the difference?08:55
iceroothyperstream: environment08:56
Dr_Willishyperstream:  envirimental settings08:56
hyperstreamDr_Willis, no thank you, im fine with root terminals :)08:56
macotheadmin: "sudo su" is like "sudo -s"08:56
Dr_Willishyperstream:  learn the proper way to get a root terminal08:56
hyperstreamDr_Willis, why?08:56
hyperstreamDr_Willis, its working fine for me with the method i use?08:56
Dr_WillisIve seen several cases where your sudo su - or other things can get things goofy08:56
macohyperstream: "sudo su" = "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" = "sudo su -"08:56
iceroothyperstream: as we told you, the environment is the reason08:56
Dr_Willisits also 'redundant' :)08:56
macohyperstream: if youre going to use "sudo su" at least include the - at the end08:56
hyperstreamDr_Willis, please show me examples. Hope its stuff i use sudo su - for ..08:56
Dr_Willishyperstream:  i pasted a url.08:57
Dr_Willisgo read it :)08:57
hyperstreamDr_Willis, ive read that several times.08:57
iceroothyperstream: please reread then08:57
hyperstreamDr_Willis, still doesnt justify why im being told that i need to do it another way ?08:57
Dr_WillisThen you are lucky you havent stumbled upon some of the quirks.08:57
hyperstreamDr_Willis, yeah for the paste year ....08:57
hyperstreampast*08:57
macoDr_Willis: what hyperstream is fine08:57
theadminOkay... now this is annoying. How can I make Ubuntu stop displaying dumb messages like these? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png I want it to always run shell scripts in terminal08:57
Dr_Willisive seen people spend some time trying to track down  some issues doing it other ways.08:58
macoDr_Willis: hyperstream didnt say "sudo su" but rather "sudo su -" which IS the same as "sudo -i"08:58
hyperstreamDr_Willis, what maco said :)08:58
macoDr_Willis: if hyperstream just said "sudo su" then yes, the env would be an issue as that's only "sudo -s"08:58
Dr_Willis'he command sudo -i is the equivalent to the 'su -' command'  or so i hear.08:58
ardchoillehyperstream: YOU don't need to do it another way, you can do whatever you want on your system. However, while in this channelit's best to recommend the proper way to do things08:58
hyperstream<hyperstream> zetheroo, sudo su -08:58
dinosaurvskittenDoes anyone here use full disk encryption? I'm wondering how well it plays with laptops. For instance, what happens if you hibernate? Do you get prompted for a password or does it stay mounted?08:58
Dr_Willissudo su - is like sudo sudo sudo sudo su  logic isent it..08:58
* Dr_Willis ssh's to localhost for fun.08:59
zetheroohyperstream: whichis for what?08:59
hyperstreamardchoille, perhaps, but not to me... to the person i may have miss informed. sudo su - is fine.08:59
macoDr_Willis: well yes, its less efficient and requires spawning more shells, but in terms of teh env settings, its the same effect08:59
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: yes, you are asked for your encryption password again (at least with TC)08:59
bullgardI downloaded the DEB program package »jargon-text«. What is the preferred Ubuntu way to read and search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt? '~$ most /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt' is uncomfortable.08:59
Dr_WillisI recall having my own custome root .profile and other things in the past (dont do it as much now a days) and had to be carefull how i 'su'd' to root08:59
dinosaurvskittencegorach, thanks09:00
theadminbullgard: You can try a text editor, or maybe less or more09:00
dinosaurvskittencegorach, any particular reason why you went for TC instead of dmcrypt?09:00
theadminTC? Is this for TrueCrypt?09:01
pat|nGis it possible to activate 3D with a built-in intel gfxcard?09:01
hyperstreambullgard, gedit file.txt  or nano file.txt or vim file.txt (from console, otherwise applications>accessories>gedit09:01
dinosaurvskittentheadmin, yes, at least that's what I assumed :)09:01
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: i have had a lot of experience with truecrypt, and it is very user friendly and easy to use09:01
bullgardtheadmin: Following your advice is uncomfortable. As I pointed out, even most is inconvenient.09:01
Dr_Willispat|nG:  it works for my Netbook. well compiz and low end 3d games work. :) its not got much Powar!09:01
MiracleHi all. I am trying to set up a little-osm server. I am running the following command and getting an error: sudo mysql -u root<planet.sql09:02
MiracleERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) how can I run this if I can't log in as root?09:02
Dr_Willisbullgard:  search and read for what exactly?09:02
theadmindinosaurvskitten: Cool thing imho... and I've no idea what the heck dmcrypt is, but truecrypt totally rocks... it's quite uncomfortable to do NTFS formatting though09:02
pat|nGcompiz?09:02
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: plus, it allows you to encrypt a disk/partition that is in use (which was handy for my win7 netbook)09:02
dinosaurvskittencegorach, it is user friendly in some sense, but in others the UI is a bit glitchy from what I could tell when using it with an external drive (prompting for the volume password and root password before checking whether the mount point is already in use or whether the device exists at all)09:02
Dr_Willis!compiz | pat|nG09:02
ubottupat|nG: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz09:02
Dr_Willispat|nG:  it gives ubuntu the fancy eye candy09:02
infidhas anyone in here got X11 ssh forwarding working on ubuntu 9.10? it's supposed to work out of the box but definitely isn't for me, nor with lots of tweaking09:02
bullgardDr_Willis: I designeted the object of my question exactly. What do you want to know exactly?09:02
pat|nGdoes it work to kubuntu?09:02
pat|nGi'm in kubuntu kde09:03
theadminpat|nG: Yes, but you'll have to mess around a bit09:03
soreaupat|nG: Most intel chips will already have 3D working by default09:03
macoDr_Willis: pat|nG is trying to do it with kwin's 3D but its refusing to enable09:03
pat|nG#kubuntu no support channel09:03
dinosaurvskittentheadmin, dmcrypt seems to be pretty much like truecrypt but at the kernel level09:03
bazhangpat|nG, sure, but kde4 has its own compositing09:03
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bullgards/designeted/designated/09:03
pat|nGi got kde4 i check all options but nothing happnd09:03
pat|nG:(09:03
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: i never use the ui unless i am creating a new drive. i have a boot password, and then after it logs in, it automounts my 3-4 internal volumes09:03
hyperstreamMiracle, mysql --help, i think off the top of my head you need to use -p09:03
dinosaurvskittentheadmin, I may be mistaken though - I only just started reading up about it09:03
Slartinfid: you mean things like ssh -X 192.168.42.42 gedit  ?09:03
infidslart yeah09:03
macohyperstream: yep that sounds riht09:04
Miraclehyperstream - thx    I'll look into it09:04
dinosaurvskittencegorach, ah ok09:04
infidi can ssh -X <host> but if i type 'gedit' it will say authenication failed09:04
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: is dmcrypt cross platform?09:04
Slartinfid: let me check09:04
hyperstreamMiracle, nps, mate09:04
dinosaurvskittentheadmin, what do you mean by uncomfortable?09:04
bullgardhyperstream: nano is bad. It is even worse than most.09:04
dinosaurvskittencegorach, probably not09:04
hyperstreambullgard, how can i tell from looking at your name, how advanced you are with linux ? :), yes i agree nano is bad.09:04
blakkheimuse vi09:05
theadmindinosaurvskitten: Well, on Linux I kinda have to first do "truecrypt --mount somefile --filesystem=none", then "mkfs -t ntfs /dev/mapper/truecrypt1"09:05
dinosaurvskittencegorach, then again, the drives I'll be encrypting are linux filesystems, which aren't mountable on the other OS I use (for now anyways...)09:05
macoor if you want to look all advanced: type "view" as it is vi in read only mode :P09:05
infidslart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.009:05
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: that would be another reason why i wouldnt use it. i switch between windows and linux every now and then, and it is really nice to not have to worry about reencrypting the disks09:05
Slartinfid: hang on.. let me get my vm's up and running =)09:05
hyperstreammaco, :P09:05
infidk09:05
dinosaurvskittencegorach, yeah I think I'll go for truecrypt after all09:06
glassresistoranyone know of an app to view harddrive power usage09:06
bullgardhyperstream: So what Ubuntu program is best suited to read ans search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt?09:07
dinosaurvskittenglassresistor, you might be able to get some info from powertop, but I'm not completely sure09:07
bullgards/ans/and/09:07
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: one thing you may try, is to mount the volumes at a lower mount point (i mount mine at X/Y/Z in windows)09:07
hyperstreambullgard, most text editors have a search function built in.09:07
macobullgard: i dont really know what you're looking for exactly. i mean, i just use "less"...09:07
hyperstreambullgard, cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for09:07
bullgardhyper09:08
macohyperstream: O_o09:08
blakkheimhyperstream: why would you do that09:08
macohyperstream: grep what-im-lloking-for file.txt09:08
blakkheim^09:08
dinosaurvskittenhyperstream, grep what-im-looking-for file.txt09:08
hyperstreamcause im a noob ?09:08
dinosaurvskittendarn, beat me to it09:08
Dr_Willisredundancy again! :)09:08
hyperstream:)09:08
* cachivachi gets disgusted09:08
theadminhyperstream: Don't worry, I do that too :D09:08
hyperstreamit works none the less09:08
* cachivachi leaves09:08
* Dr_Willis wayves bye to cachivachi09:08
hyperstreamtheadmin, one of the first things i learnt, just a habbit :)09:08
hyperstreamcachivachi <-- weak as :)09:09
theadminsame here, hyperstream09:09
bullgardhyperstream, maco: "less" is no convinient tool for /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt09:09
* maco wants to know what was disgusting09:09
Dr_Willisbullgard:  and why is it not convient? ive dont think youve clarified that point.09:09
theadminmaco: Probably the "cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for" part09:09
bullgards/convinient/convenient/09:09
hyperstreammaco, think it was my: "cat file.txt | grep "search stuff"09:09
macobullgard: is there something odd about it? it's a text file. its what i use for every textfile09:09
yahyahi09:09
hyperstreambullgard, what is your actual issue ?09:09
Dr_Willisfirefox whatever.txt   :)09:09
infidtheadmin: you dont have to cat a file to grep it. just do 'grep foo file.txt'09:10
yahyai  need help09:10
bullgardmaco: It is a specially formatted text file.09:10
hyperstreamyahya, tell us about your issue ?09:10
macoinfid: hyperstream said it and then 3 of us said what you just said09:10
yahyaممكن مساعدة09:10
theadmininfid: Yeah I know, just an old habbit from back when I didn't know much about bash09:10
macoinfid: and then someone  /part'd in disgust09:10
theadminyahya: Wha?09:10
hyperstreamwhat language is that lol09:10
maco!sa | yahya09:10
ubottuyahya: For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية09:10
theadminhyperstream: hebrew, imho09:10
infidheh sorry09:10
Xfactutorrent now officially accepted that it can run nicely on WINE, http://www.utorrent.com/downloads (system requirements) !09:10
infidi like transmission, what's utorrent got on it?09:11
zetheroohas anyone here had success running Plasma in Ubuntu?09:11
hyperstreamXfact, whats wrong with qbittorrent ?09:11
dinosaurvskitteninfid, the UI's less clunky to put it bluntly/vaguely09:11
hyperstreaminfid, i dont think transmission support DHT09:11
macozetheroo: inside gnome, instead of in kde?09:11
zetheroomaco: yep09:12
hyperstreaminfid, but qbittorent does :)09:12
stanman246hey in here, just received my net xw4400 pc, can't wait to get ubu on it. But am in doubt... What's better 32 or 64 bits. Am kinda new on ubuntu09:12
yahyaيا احبابي انا مش عارف اهمل ثلاثي الابعاد لسطح المكتب ممكن مساعدة09:12
theadminPlasma in GNOME? o_O Now I am disgusted.09:12
macozetheroo: plasmoidviewer or something....09:12
theadminyahya: English please09:12
hyperstreamyahya, /join #ubuntu-arabic09:12
infidi've never needed fancy bt features. dont even know what they are. i just know i get my files super fast over fios09:12
macozetheroo: you need to run the plasmoids inside a viewer thingy09:12
Xfacthyperstream:  I use transmission, I am just saying now the original is supported, then why look for alternatives...!09:12
ardchoille!arabic09:12
ubottuFor Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية09:12
shamrezsadat063306cc062f 063406450639063106cc0632 06330627062f0627062a09:12
bazhangshamrezsadat, please stop that09:13
theadminshamrezsadat: UTF-8 please!09:13
macoshamrezsadat: unicode, please09:13
zetheroomaco: have you done it?09:13
macozetheroo: nope, i use kde09:13
shamrezsadatsssssd09:13
dinosaurvskittenis there a reason why I should *not* use noatime with all my mounted partitions?09:13
zetheroomaco: I heard of people doing it in Ubuntu ..09:13
stanman246it's a C2D cpu, so it's 64bits, but is ubuntu 64bit the same as 32bit?09:13
neil_dI have a raid1 setup... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid up :( it says the only HDD is a spare.. when I stop it and rescan it finds it and starts it properly... what do I do about this?09:13
bullgardDr_Willis, hyperstream, maco : Synaptic: "This version is in the original text format and is best viewed with Volks-hypertext browser (vh), but can be viewed without it."09:13
macozetheroo: i know its possible. i just havent tried it as i dont have gnome09:14
theadminplasma on Gnome is likely a bad idea, though, zetheroo09:14
theadminworse idea is plasma on XFCE though :D09:15
zetherootheadmin: why?09:15
shamrezsadatbuggy?hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah09:15
hyperstreambullgard, im not sure if im correct on this, but the answer is within what you paste yes?09:15
Slartinfid: ok.. it works without any problems here..09:15
ChrisMorganMy Ubuntu 9.10 system just froze completely (no response to any input method, including e.g. Caps Lock not changing its light status) while I was running Rhythmbox (just after the habitual restart09:15
shamrezsadatbuggy09:15
theadminzetheroo: Well, GNOME is not intended to use Plasma... it will just look weird, trust me %)09:15
Slartinfid: tried it  9.04 desktop -> 9.10 desktop.. clean install.. just installed openssh server and it works09:15
bazhangshamrezsadat, did you have a support question?09:15
infidslart weird. i dont know what i'm doing wrong. i even tried disabling my firewall. the only thing i can gather is that i'm using public keys and have disabled password logins, which might be conflicting with it09:15
zetherootheadmin: have you done it?09:15
theadminChrisMorgan: Did you try reisub?09:16
infidslart i'm doing a 9.10 dt to a 9.10 dt09:16
ChrisMorgandue to sleep causing it to fail reading the CD), and so I did a hard restart.  Now I've got gdu-notification-daemon and Palimpsest Disk Utility telling me of SMART problems...09:16
mimisi try to open .deb files but i can't, do tou know what may be the problem?09:16
zetherooshamrezsadat: yeah  ... wondering the same ... did you have a Q?09:16
shamrezsadatnoooooooooooooooooooo09:16
ChrisMorgan(Sorry, I didn't mean to press Enter first time)09:16
zetherooshamrezsadat: so your here to help out/09:16
zetheroo?09:16
theadminmimis: Do you have the admin rights? Is gdebi working normally?09:16
shamrezsadatno he is not tell me09:16
bullgardhyperstream: It is not. --  Thank you.09:16
stanman246anyone?09:16
bazhangshamrezsadat, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here09:16
Slartinfid: what was the error message you got?09:16
hyperstreambullgard, volks-hypertext browser?09:17
mimistheadmin: how can i check it?09:17
infidslart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.009:17
shamrezsadatbazhang i fuck ur sister mthere fucker09:17
stanman246does 64bit have all the same software as ubu 32 bits?09:17
hyperstreamot oh09:17
hyperstreamwe have a kick comming :LP09:17
theadminmimis: Well, try running the console based installer and see if you succeed. "sudo dpkg -i debpackage.deb"09:17
Slartstanman246: yes09:17
dnivrahyperstream, bazhang beat you to it:)09:17
hyperstreami stand corrected :)09:17
stanman246thanks Slart09:18
laega facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?]09:18
hyperstreamdnivra, i dont have oper priv's :)09:18
dnivrahyperstream, i meant he did it before you could even say it:)09:18
hyperstreamdnivra, oo my bad lol, yes very quick09:18
ChrisMorganIt's an incidental thing I've observed as absolutely consistent behaviour: play a CD with Rhythmbox, put the machine in standby, when it wakes up, Rhythmbox won't be able to play the CD until it's restarted, claiming a read buffer failure of some sort (can't remember precisely what it was).  Replacing the CD doesn't help.09:18
dnivrahyperstream, no problem:). i know that was damn fast09:18
yahya__mhdilove3@hotmail.com09:18
Slartstanman246: I can honestly say that I wouldn't be able to tell if it was 32bit or 64bit if you just put me in front of a computer with ubuntu.. well.. unless I run uname or something like that, of course09:18
theadminyahya__: Don't spam!09:19
dnivraanother one soon coming I guess.09:19
theadmin...i guess I shouldn't show up in this channel around that time... never did before, never saw any spam... sigh %)09:19
stanman246Slart: I want to use it for video editing, so i hope that will increase the box' speed09:19
Slartstanman246: don't get your hopes up.. it's not that much faster09:20
stanman246hmmm09:20
Dr_Willisstanman246:   You may see some gains. but it depends on what you do.  of course if its a 2% gain..  over the course of a 3 days of video reencoding,,.,,09:20
ChrisMorganSo now Ubuntu is telling me that the S.M.A.R.T. chip in my disk is reporting "Disk has many bad sectors" (Reallocated Sector Count is 65541 sectors... suspiciously close to 65536 which I thusly presume is a magic number with hard disks).  Would this be due to the system's freeze and hard restart, or the other way round, or something else altogether, or no way of telling really?09:20
theadminWhy do I hear a loud pop-like sound when I hibernate?09:20
theadminChrisMorgan: NEVER HARD RESTART!!! Use REISUB!09:21
stanman246even if i pop in 8gb's?09:21
ChrisMorgantheadmin: I had no choice, it was all completely locked up.09:21
Dr_Willisstanman246:  more is always better. :)09:21
SlartChrisMorgan: I would say it's your hard drive that is crashing.. backup backup backup09:21
foul_owlanyone here use directfb?09:21
bupssshello09:21
theadminChrisMorgan: Did you even try REISUB?... Altough... I'd run fsck from a Live session and see if it fixes those errors09:21
Slartstanman246: memory size is the only really noticable difference between 32bit and 64bit..09:21
ChrisMorganFirst all except the mouse froze, then the screen went black (except for the mouse cursor for some reason) and all input stopped working.09:22
Slartstanman246: if you've got more than 3.5GB go with 64bit09:22
ChrisMorganCaps Lock was stuck on (don't recall having it on... wondered why it was on)09:22
hyperstreamChrisMorgan, CTRL + ALT + F1 didnt do anything either?09:22
ChrisMorganSo I really had no choice (and anyway, I've never heard of reisub :D)09:22
mimistheadmin: i still can't install it. Before this problem i installed build-essential, i don't know if it matters09:22
foul_owlis it possible to run opengl apps without x1109:22
dinosaurvskittencegorach, looks like there's some support for dmcrypt on windows through freeotfe09:23
stanman246ah... I'll just give it a try then... Now the only thing I need to know is: Got me a dual xp install on the box (C: and E:)... And a large free partition for Ubu, will grub pick up both xp installs? Need that for my wife and kids...09:23
ChrisMorganhyperstream: I tried Ctrl+Alt+(Backspace|Delete), but not Ctrl+Alt+F1 'cos I couldn't remember it09:23
hyperstreamstanman246, yes it should09:23
fourshorewhen i try to join a counterstrike server my screen goes blank and i get the message "Out Of Range"09:23
hyperstreamChrisMorgan, ok, kept it in mind for next time, should give you a console to work with09:23
ChrisMorganAnyway, input from the keyboard and mouse didn't seem to be getting processed at all, at the hardware elvel, I think09:23
fourshorehow do i fix this?09:23
hyperstreamfourshore, installed with what? wine?09:23
hyperstreamfourshore, #winehq09:24
infidslart do you have the file ~/.Xauthority or did it work for you without it?09:24
Slartinfid: I think it said something about creating that when I connected09:24
fourshoreyes wine09:24
stanman246ok, I'm going for it! can't wait... thanks for the advice guys!09:25
fourshorebut they don't know the answer09:25
* iflema thinks... the real me thinks winblows apps with wine as a system requirement..... what!/why!/NO! (floodgates) or maybe the beginning of the end, amen to that.09:25
infidslart what all did you do, just ran the command 'ssh -X host command'? or did you run any 'xauth' stuff?09:25
hyperstreamfourshore, this is a ubuntu channel, not a wine channel, hence why there is #winehq09:26
Dr_WillisThe wine app database is also good..09:26
Slartinfid: I installed openssh-server and some regular updates.. then I opened a terminal and ran  "ssh -X 172.16.0.1 gedit"  that opened a gedit window remotely.. I closed that and tried just "ssh -X 172.16.0.1" and then ran gedit from that prompt which also worked.. nothing else09:26
abu123Hi09:26
Xfactanybody can refer me some useful lite-weight web browsers?09:26
abu123how to copy to /usr/share/sounds09:27
laegXfact: firefox, firefox portable09:27
hyperstreamXfact, chrome is pretty lightweight :)09:27
Dr_WillisXfact:  google chome, opera, midori09:27
cegorachdinosaurvskitten: interesting... doubt i'll switch from tc, since it has served me so well09:27
Slartinfid: no configuration.. no xauth stuff09:27
hyperstreamXfact, or lynx (terminal)09:27
Guard1anXfact, gnome/kde?09:27
fourshorehyperstream, why are you whining then09:27
XfactMidori type...Fireox and chrome and opera not lite weight09:27
cegorachhyperstream: how does chrome run in linux?09:27
hyperstreamcegorach, sure does mate09:27
XfactGuard1an:  gnome09:27
laegXfact: what seems to be the problem?09:27
hyperstreamcegorach, get it from google :)09:27
abu123I want you install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu09:28
hyperstreamcegorach, i definatly use it, have for a while now09:28
hyperstreamfourshore, 'whining' about what?09:28
abu123I want to install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu09:28
cegorachhyperstream: not does it run, _how_ does it run, like how well?09:28
Dr_Willisabu123:  so... whats stopping you...09:28
hyperstreamcegorach, flawless for me and ive put it through everything i can think of09:28
Xfactlaeg: firefox aqnd chrome taking too much ram while loading (flash based etc.) heavy weight pages.....09:28
Xfact*an d09:28
hyperstreamcegorach, flash etc, all fine,(sorry miss read your question)09:28
Guard1anXfact, midori09:28
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Dr_WillisXfact:  if you want low ram ussage.. disable flash.. perhaps..09:29
abu123I want to make ubuntu as win7 look09:29
cegorachhyperstream: nice. i will def have to get that instead of recustomizing ff here on my server09:29
XfactHow is epiphany?09:29
hyperstreamcegorach, yeah im in love with chrome.09:29
Guest90567hi suche verzweifelt diesen patch für macbook 4,1 soundkarte09:29
Guest90567patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz09:30
Guest90567kann mir wer helfen?09:30
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Slartinfid: if I check the host computer now, I do have a .Xauthority file.. and when I try to rerun the ssh command it doesn't say anything about it any more09:30
jasmin76danke09:30
Slartinfid: I can try deleting it and trying again09:30
Guard1anXfact, mmm not sure if it's stabalised, they moved to webkit from gecko09:30
XfactDr_Willis: turning off flash wasn't a decent idea :(09:30
Dr_WillisXfact:  i think disabling flash is a VERY decent idea. :)09:31
* Dr_Willis waits for teh day when flash goes the way of Realplayer09:31
Xfactanybody heard about a audio player 'aTunes', it's having lots of problem!09:31
jasmin76HI guys searching for my macbook 4,1 this sound patch    patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz09:32
jasmin76can somebody help me?09:32
cegorachdr_wilis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?09:32
Guard1anYoutube switched to html509:32
neil_dI have a raid1.. if I disconnect a HDD initramfs wont start the raid device up :(   why?  Have I configured it wrong or something?09:32
XfactDr_Willis: in peasant days, 80% good looking and useful sites are flash based!O:-)09:32
BlouBloujasmin76: yes, and what do you want do with it?09:32
hyperstream!germen09:32
hyperstreamwow cant even spell that one aye ><09:33
neil_dXfact: and none need to be.09:33
cegorachdr_willis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?09:33
theadmin!de | hyperstream09:33
ubottuhyperstream: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.09:33
pat|nGdoes compizfusion supports KDE?09:33
jasmin76to activate also the third speaker ...09:33
zirodaypat|nG: yes, for more details ask in #kubuntu09:33
cegorachanyone know how to set up a teamspeak server?09:33
infidSlart:  it's ok thanks. i just have a messed up system for some reason. i'll figure it out eventually. thanks for all the help.09:34
pat|nGziroday: #kubuntu is a ghost channel09:34
Slartinfid: you're welcome09:34
zirodaypat|nG: it most certainly is not :)09:34
laegunder ubuntu 9.01 a facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?09:34
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neil_dlaeg: netstat might do that..09:35
theadminlaeg: 9.01?! What kinda thing is that? o_O09:35
laegtheadmin: funny09:35
laegneil_d: ty, i'll have a look09:35
iflemalaeg netstat -tuna09:35
whynotbuongiorno a tutti09:36
laegiflema: ty, if i'm on a website but it has already loaded and there are no ads etc, will it still show up?09:37
Dr_Willis!info gnomeartng09:37
ubottuPackage gnomeartng does not exist in karmic09:37
laegi imagine the facebook app will keep 'loading' so will be establish, my last question is offtopic09:37
iflemalaeg for a little while add  c netstat -tunac09:38
pat|nGlaeg: check ur apps09:38
pat|nGinstall the new flash player09:39
chilipepperI have fliles in flac and I want to convert them into mp3. What media converter do you suggest?09:39
iflemalaeg and maybe pipe through grep09:40
laegiflema: thanks, i got the port and ip09:41
laegpat|nG: what will checking my apps and installing the latest flash do?09:41
rossiniciao09:41
thejoniubottu09:42
thejoniwhat is ubottu09:42
Dr_Willis!bot09:42
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots09:42
ownerhow to register nick name?09:43
Dr_Willis!register | owner09:43
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Topy44i am still trying to find out how the look of the buttons in the gnome panel window selector applet gets defined09:45
thejoniwhat is ubuntu09:45
Topy44somewhere in the gtk theme i guess...09:45
Topy44but i cant find it09:45
thejoni!ubuntu09:45
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com09:45
suigeneris!ubuntu | th0ger09:45
ubottuth0ger: please see above09:45
bazhangthejoni, an OS.  chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you dont have any support questions09:45
suigeneris!ubuntu | thejoni09:45
ubottuthejoni: please see above09:45
* citbun is away (disconnecting...)09:47
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canottoexit09:47
bacilonadios09:48
bacilonme piro09:48
ranjanhello every body i am having an problem with samba sare i am not able to brouse the network place from my ubuntu 9.10  any help will be great09:48
bacilonengaleee09:49
MauritianGuyguys how do i check drivers for my whole system09:49
bacilonolaaaaaaa09:49
bacilonk aceis09:49
bazhang!es | bacilon09:49
ubottubacilon: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:49
MauritianGuyi just updated nvidia driver i am not sure if it got installed or not09:49
hyperstreamMauritianGuy, use the display manager09:50
hyperstreamMauritianGuy, System>Pref>Display (choose to use manufactor software)09:50
iflemaMauritianGuy lsmod | grep nvidia09:50
MauritianGuythanks i am on it09:51
canottociao09:51
iflemacanotto ciao09:51
bazhang!it | canotto09:51
ubottucanotto: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)09:51
DiverdudeI need to understand this correct. If I have bought a new device, e.g. a USB wireless network adapter and i need to install the driver for it, i need to recompile the kernel?09:51
soreauDiverdude: You dont need to recompile the kernel09:52
thejoni!register thejoni09:52
canottoscusa sono nuovo e sto cercando di capire come muovermi09:52
Diverdudesoreau, when do you then need to recompile the kernel?09:52
bazhangcanotto, english here ; #ubuntu-it for Italian09:52
thejoni!register09:52
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode09:52
XfactOsdisk.com taking $5 for Ubuntu CDs http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/ubuntu?ad=google&gclid=CM_ii5ueup8CFY0vpAodImPFbA why?11109:53
Xfact!09:53
bazhangthejoni, help in #freenode for registration09:53
SlartXfact: to cover the cost of the physical disc?09:53
soreauDiverdude: That is a subjective question. Short answer is you never need to compile your own kernel09:53
canotto#ubuntu-it09:53
bazhangXfact, that is offtopic here09:53
SlartXfact: it's not illegal to charge money for opensource software09:53
bazhangcanotto, /join #ubuntu-it09:53
theadminXFact: You can resell Ubuntu, it's normal09:53
theadminXFact: Altough it's also dumb09:54
soreauDiverdude: Which device do you have as reported by lsusb?09:54
Topy44seems like a fair price for burning and shipping a disc, especially if its labeled09:54
bazhanglets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please09:54
Xfactyea, why people will buy a free thing!09:54
theadminYep, that would go there...09:54
Topy44because some people dont have a highspeed internet connection09:54
bazhangXfact, #ubuntu-offtopic09:54
Topy44or access to one09:54
Diverdudesoreau, moment...I will be right back.09:55
iflemasupport09:55
Topy44and it might just be easier to order it on dvd then getting it downloaded somewhere else, where they still need to buy media to put it on09:55
SlartTopy44: you had better start listening to ops.. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic09:56
Topy44sorry09:56
Topy44must have missed that09:56
ectoif I try to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using the Update Manager, do you think it will install GRUB2?  I've got LILO installed because for whatever reason this Dell doesn't like GRUB (1)09:57
soreauecto: An upgrade wont install grub209:57
Slartecto: I don't know for sure but from what I've heard it keeps your current grub version09:57
soreauonly clean install of karmic or later09:57
ectoOK09:58
bazhangyou can choose grub2 in an upgrade09:58
greek-33DNS Question: I have 2 DNS servers. When my primary is down, my ubuntu client is too slow09:58
greek-33any ideas?09:58
MoL0ToVhi to all09:59
soreaugreek-33: Use GEs dns 4.2.2.1 or googles 8.8.8.809:59
fourshorewhere is the default download directory in ubuntu?09:59
papulbetter use opendns09:59
papulmuch much better than the others10:00
Dr_WillisI perfer googles DNS servers to opendns10:00
rwwHow do I change the CPU frequency governor from the command-line?10:00
oCean__rww: cpufreq-selector10:00
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titan_arkhey. am having some trouble getting my audio to work10:01
rwwoCean_: thanks10:01
MoL0ToVi just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick...10:01
titan_arkcant seem to get the alsa and pulse audio plugins to install10:01
Slartfourshore: I think that depends on what application you use to download stuff with10:02
fourshorethe terminal?10:02
fourshoreor firefox?10:02
Slartfourshore: chromium has one.. firefox has another.. it might be in ~/Downloads .. I have mine set to ~/Desktop10:02
Slartfourshore: bash doesn't download files afaik10:02
Slartfourshore: firefox has a setting for it.. check the preferences10:03
greek-33thanks you10:03
greek-33bye10:03
fourshorewhere does firefox save files?10:03
MoL0ToVi just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick..10:03
Slartfourshore: start firefox, click the Edit menu, click preferences..  choose the Main tab.. see the lower part of that window? it's right there10:04
incidenceHm, do I have some kinda rootkit or such? I'm getting lots of "xmvs: no such nick/channel, vtf: no such nick/channel, ydhgrfsgknvi: no such nick/channel" to my status window?10:04
ZykoticK9MoL0ToV, ext2 is actually the best for USB/SSD - lack of journaling cuts down on writes to disk, thus faster & preserves the hardware longer10:05
Topy44incidence: no, its a problem on freenode currently, its spambots10:05
incidenceTopy44: Ah, thats what the javascript spam thing was about10:05
Topy44exactly10:05
MoL0ToVZykoticK9, exist a way to entirely cache the root fs, systemlog dir, tmp dir so if i write something there is more fast?10:06
fourshoreit says user/Downloads10:06
* incidence stops downloading GRsecurity10:06
ZykoticK9MoL0ToV, no idea man - best of luck10:06
fourshorebut where is that directory... it doesn't seem to be within the File System drive?10:06
MoL0ToVi can mount /tmp and /var/log as tmpfs? this can improve performance?10:06
ZykoticK9fourshore, try "cd ~/Dwonloads" in a terminal10:07
Slartfourshore: it's probably ~/Downloads .. as in /home/<yourusername>/Downloads10:07
MoL0ToVi can mount a ext4 fs but use as ext2?10:07
ZykoticK9MoL0ToV, i doubt it, but maybe10:07
fourshoreyeah i know, but shouldn't it reside within the drive which i installed ubuntu? ie. "Filesystem"10:08
Dr_WillisMoL0ToV:  I dont think thats fully possible.  thers some backwardsd compat features with ext4->3->2 but  thats proberly pushing it10:08
MoL0ToVin facts only firefox is so slow... how i can know what and where firefox writes ti disk?10:08
MoL0ToVto10:08
Dr_Willisfourshore:  check your firefox browser settings.  It saves them to Downloads here in my Homedir10:08
KarolloHello!10:09
Slartfourshore: why would you download things into your system drive? downloads go to a folder in your home hierarchy..10:10
KarolloIs there sth like MS paint for Linux? I don't mind gimp10:10
Dr_Willis!info mtpaint10:10
ubottumtpaint (source: mtpaint): painting program to create pixel art and manipulate digital photos. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (karmic), package size 657 kB, installed size 1824 kB10:10
paranoid_ndroidKarollo, tuxpaint10:10
stanman246during the install, should i choose for guided or manual option? I want to triple boot after the install10:10
Dr_WillisKarollo:  tehres proberly other painting programs out.. depends on your needs10:10
Dr_WillisGimp is really not made for 'painting' :)10:11
Karollothanks :)10:11
fourshoreSlart, because I come from a Windows background10:11
blue_pearlstanman246: manual10:11
fourshoreso this home heirarchy, is that like on a separate partition to the system drive?10:11
Dr_Willisfourshore:  it can be.. or not10:11
Dr_Willis /home/usernames/stuffgoeshere10:11
stanman246blue_pearl: will grub pick up both the other os'?10:12
jasmin25searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid10:12
blue_pearlstanman246: what r the three OS which U want 2 install?10:12
Slartfourshore: do you save stuff in c:\windows  when you're running windows?   your home folder can be on a different partition if you've set it up that way it can also be on the root drive.. in /home/<yourusername>10:12
ubuntuserdoes anyone have experience with virtualbox on a linux distro, windows and visual studio_ Does it seem to work well?10:13
stanman246got 2 xp's (on sda1 and sda5) the rest is free space10:13
ubuntuser&j #linux10:13
stanman246ubuntuser: I'm running it fine10:13
blue_pearlstanman246:: grub will pick it up automatically10:13
stanman246ok, thanks10:13
ubuntuserstanman246, okay...what kind of Visual Studio projects do you make_10:13
Slartfourshore: all user settings go to that same place... your home folder.. system wide settings is in /etc usually.. but if it's a per-user setting it usually ends up in that users home folder10:13
dnm_can some help me sort out some space problems on my ubuntu10:13
blue_pearlubuntuser: what do u want 2 know about virtual box????10:14
blue_pearlstanman246: u r welcome.10:14
stanman246ubuntuser: actually none, did some trying out and did an install just to see if it worked10:14
fourshoreSlart, but is that home folder on the same drive as the system files?10:14
oCean_dnm_: just ask. Use pastebin for pastes10:14
ubuntuserblue_pearl, well if i can create asp.net applications in visual studio on virtual box without any problems10:14
soreau! ask | dnm_10:14
ubottudnm_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:14
stanman246ubuntuser: i use virtualbox OSE for all M$ needed apps10:15
ubuntuserstanman246, do you have it running now?10:15
Slartfourshore: it can be.. or it can be on a different partition10:15
ubuntuserstanman246, Basically I am interrested in if I am able to create asp.net apps on virtual box10:15
dnm_running a dual boot .. ubuntu is showing low space .. help needed10:15
stanman246it's on my laptop, am doing an ubu install right now10:15
stanman246ubuntuser: can't see why not10:15
blue_pearlubuntuser: well generally every software for windows runs fine on virtaul box....VS will also run perfect...i think10:16
ubuntuserstanman246, i was just thinking that there might be a problem with the webserver and all10:16
stanman246why10:16
Slartfourshore: but you'll find it at /home/    that still doesn't mean it has to be on the same partition as /   (root)10:16
KarolloI'm writing (Shutdown 0) in my terminal and PC i shutting down but it's only ubuntu logo and i thinks then my pc is freezd, why? It doesn't close10:17
dnm_Dr_Willis: u there10:17
stanman246i recall doing a VE with xampp, which worked just fine10:17
oCean_dnm_: some details would be nice. Are you running ubuntu currently? Then (in terminal) do "df -k" and "sudo fdisk -l" and paste output on paste.ubuntu.com10:17
stanman246could even reach it from the outsite ;_10:17
Dr_Willisdnm_:  yes.. what have you actually done to figure out how much space you are using and where its at?10:17
Dr_Willisdnm_:  dont expect us to play 20 questions all day long to get to the actual problem.10:17
Dr_Willisactual question.. that is.. :)10:18
dnm_Dr_Willis: sorry i m new to this n m not sure how to get things done10:18
dnm_oCean_: i m using ubuntu now .. will do the terminal thing10:18
Dr_Willisdnm_:  #1 starters install the 'pastebinit' command via 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'10:19
ubuntuserstanman246, its because I have dual boot system now...and was thinking about devoting everything to ubuntu instead and running virtualbox for visual studio...but its a big step to take because i need to be able to develop .net web apps...so that has to workperfectly10:19
jasmin25help10:19
oCean_dnm_: ok. After you've pasted the output of the commands at paste.ubuntu.com, you can give the resulting URL in this channel, so we can have a look10:19
blue_pearlubuntuser:why dont u give a try....i dont thinku will face any prob...10:19
Dr_Willisdnm_:  then use the command to give us some info tell us eht URLs for the pastebin  pastes for the following command 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit' and 'df -h | pastebinit'10:19
laeghow do i resolve an ipaddress to domain name?10:20
LuciusMareohai10:20
jasmin25help10:20
raven(how) is possible to open a partition which has been saved by PARTIMAGE?10:20
LuciusMarewhat is the name of the widget that displays a small menu where i can browse my home folder? (out of the box, it is right next to the K menu) - and can i get it on debian?10:21
Dr_Willisraven:  you can mount 'filesystem' images with the loop option of mount  theres an example for iso files.10:21
Dr_Willis!iso10:21
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.10:21
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bazhangLuciusMare, on debian?10:21
Guest60196weee10:21
LuciusMarebazhang: yes10:21
bazhangLuciusMare, ask in #debian10:21
LuciusMareer10:21
ravenDr_Willis, partimage gives no iso files10:21
blue_pearlLuciusMare: Folder View Screenlet????10:22
LuciusMarebut how should they know what do i mean?10:22
LuciusMarei ask here because i found it on kubuntu only10:22
ravenDr_Willis, and it's not a single file but about 20 á 4 gb10:22
LuciusMareblue_pearl: i meant the KDE thingy10:22
dudehello everyone10:23
maxunackQ: i'm installing ubuntu and am wondering which mount points to use (and what size for each)? i've done swap, but what about /, /home and whatever else? i have 450gb to spare10:23
nikhil_how does one troublehoot a kernel panic under ubuntu?10:23
joschi__hi10:23
Dr_Willisraven:  iso is just an example..   you could check the partimage docs/guides to see how they reccomend doing it10:23
blue_pearlLuciusMare:if u install Screenlet and start the "FolderView" screenlet u can get to view folder,files from a widget..it available on all Linux10:23
LuciusMaremaxunack: i usually leave about 50 gigs or so for /, and rest for /home10:23
LuciusMareblue_pearl: i dont mean screenlets, i mean the KDE widget10:23
dnm_oCean_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/10:23
maxunackLuciusMare: thanks.. any other partitions i should think about? maybe /var ?10:24
blue_pearlLuciusMare: ok i c....well i dont use KDE..but i understand what u r asking about.10:24
maxunackmaybe some hefty log files might come along... but maybe not important since its for personal use10:24
dnm_Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/10:24
LuciusMaremaxunack: well, i think that for desktop, separate home is just about enough10:25
blue_pearlmaxunack:if u do swap and / its enough to install Ubuntu10:25
Dr_Willisraven:  a quick google - shoes many people wanting to do it.. and not being possible10:25
maxunackcool cool, thanks, guys10:25
blue_pearlmaxunack: u r welcome.10:25
ravenDr_Willis, yes that's the problem...10:25
arguedI am in need of buying a new hard drive, my question is if I install the new HD and put my old HD in an external case, will I be able to mount the external hd with all files on it and copy it over to my new one witch I will install Karmic on?10:25
Dr_Willisdnm_:  Hmm.. thers not any linux partitons shown  - How exactly DID you install ubuntu?10:26
LuciusMaremaxunack: though, if you are going to install a server, and you have a specific reason to use separate /var (for keeping logs?) or /usr (for installing applications), go ahead. I recommend separate home, eventual migrating to another distro is MUCH easier10:26
Dr_Willisargued:  i do that all the time.10:26
hyperstreamargued, yes, provided the hard disk is in working order.10:26
oCean_dnm_: there's no linux install on that disk. I also asked to paste the output of "df -k", that'll show us the linux disk partitioning10:26
Dr_Willisargued:  actually with grub2 - it can even detect/boot the external one. :)10:26
dudei want to install raid disk. what can i do10:26
Dr_Willis!raid | dude10:27
ubottudude: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto10:27
CAiROhi10:27
arguedthank you guys, I wanted to ask before just so grub wont cause any trubles10:27
Dr_Willisdude:  read up on the topic  a good deal befor starting. :)10:27
fourshorei just installed the latest version of Wine but need to downgrade to 1.1.34, how do i do this?10:27
duderaid 510:27
LuciusMarefourshore: apt-get install wine=1.1.3410:27
CAiROi'm having problems accessing an usb stick from the desktop, when i plug in the stick, it appears in the "place" menu, but selecting the stick from there does nothing10:27
CAiROno mount, no window opening, nothing10:27
dudethank you10:27
LuciusMarefourshore: useful tip, just add = and version, and poof! instant specific version10:28
CAiROand the same thing works on my ubuntu notebook without problems10:28
CAiROwhat could be the cause?10:28
fourshoreLuciusMare, thanks. Do I need to apt-get remove wine first?10:28
jasmin25searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid10:28
CAiROmy user is part of the group "disk"10:28
LuciusMarewell10:28
stanman246got 3 partitions: 40gb for / 200mb for /boot and 100gb for /home.... am i doing the right thing or should i assign a different partition for /tmp?10:28
argueddoes anyone here have anything to say about Western  Digital Caviar Black Dualcore 640GB10:28
LuciusMarefourshore: not sure, if it does not work, remove it first10:28
Dr_Willisargued:  its a 640gb hard drive....10:28
Dr_Willis:)10:28
fourshoreLuciusMare, do I need to remove the current (latest) version first10:28
stanman246WD..10:28
fourshoreok10:28
stanman246:)10:28
dnm_Dr_Willis: well i installed wubu first then i downloaded it via net and installed it10:29
Dr_Willisdnm_:  wubi is a special way to install Ubuntu 'inside' windows  - I dont use wubi. so cant help.10:29
Parah10:29
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arguedDR Willis: that much I get.. I ment - I wont use any more hitachi drives cause they wont work all that good for me, how about WD for you guys10:29
Dr_Willisdnm_:  ive no idea if its even possible to resize a wubi install10:29
dnm_Dr_Willis: oh k10:29
Dr_Willisargued:  HD's are the weakest part of any system I find. - I tend to  balance price vs size  and warrenty.10:30
stanman246should i make an assigned /tmp partition?10:30
dnm_oCean_: have any suggestions10:30
Dr_Willisdnm_:  i suggest doing a 'normal' ubuntu install to real partitions. and forgetting wuibi even exists10:30
oCean_!wubi | dnm_ here's some more inof on installing/running wubi (i don't have that either)10:30
ubottudnm_ here's some more inof on installing/running wubi (i don't have that either): Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.10:30
konrads_Hi, I have an ancient 7.04 ubuntu10:31
arguedthe price is right atm and warrenty is 5 years so all that is good as far as I need to know10:31
LuciusMarekonrads_: congratulations10:31
konrads_i want to upgrade to latst, but 7.04->9.10 is not supported10:31
konrads_nor I can find a 7.10 mirror10:31
konrads_what should I do?10:31
Dr_Willisargued:  who has 5 yr warrenty? I turned 2 segates the other day and got them replaced. :) they wer both 4 yrs old..10:31
om26ercan I decrease the width of window list applet?10:31
dnm_Dr_Willis: k i m not getting it .. so basically you are tellin me that i havent installed it the right way10:31
Dr_Williskonrads_:  the old repos get moved to some  archive server.10:31
arguedmy local dealer who sells WD10:31
chilipepperWow Dr_Willis , that was cool10:32
Dr_Willisdnm_:  you installed it in the 'wubi' way - a 'install under windows' way. thats not  what Most linux users use10:32
iflemaCAiRO have you been messing with user access rights? whats the kernel version on troubled os?.... did you compile it yourself? whats the file system on the flash disk?10:32
oCean_konrads_: here is some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:32
dnm_Dr_Willis: ok .. so how do i do it the other way10:32
Dr_Willisdnm_:  boot the cd.. follow the installer directions10:32
ravenis possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?10:33
Dr_Willisdnm_:  i would backup any data ya got on the wubi install and remove it.. then do a nomral install10:33
dnm_Dr_Willis: ok so for that i have to get a cd10:33
CAiROiflema: no, i haven't except for adding my user to groups like audio, i'm using 8.04 with a 2.6.24-26 kernel10:33
Dr_Willisdnm_:  you can make a bootable flash drive  No cd needed10:33
dnm_Dr_Willis: my data is on another drive10:33
arguedis there anything else I need to think of before doing this? my harddrive is practically full atm, losing transfer speed for every backup and I believe I need to change it before I lose anything important10:33
dnm_Dr_Willis: how do i do that .. can you give me a link10:33
CAiROiflema: the stick has a fat filesystem and yes, i've rebuild the ubuntu kernel image but only the PAE option changed10:34
Dr_Willisdnm_:   use the usb-creator tool thats in the menus10:34
CAiROiflema: everything else is the same10:34
Dr_Willisdnm_:  or the 'unetbootin' tool10:34
CAiROiflema: i can mount the sticks as root using mount on the command line10:34
CAiRObut i want it to happen automatically as on my notebook10:34
iflemaCAiRO ok\10:34
CAiROiflema: i wonder how to debug this? where can i see message of something failing if i click on my stick from the places menu and nothing happens?10:35
oCean_konrads_: upgrading would be a huge deal, with uncertain result. Backup your data, and do fresh install might be best option!?10:35
* ultraparadigm is excited! Just beat Portal My first real game in linux. Whoot! <-----such a n00b10:35
ravenis possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?10:36
konrads_oCean_: thanks10:36
arguedDr_Willis: ?10:36
Dr_Willisargued:  ??10:36
arguedDr_Willis: anything else I need to keep in mind before doing this?10:36
iflemaCAiRO this kernel recompile you did a complete copy bar the added PAE support?10:37
Dr_Willisargued:  doing what? I got distractd by some cookies that needed nom noming...10:37
Dr_Willis:P10:37
CAiROiflema: i've created my own "pae flavour" as some of the howtos in the net recommend10:37
arguedDr_Willis: cookies are good :) ... about the hd I need to change10:37
iflemaCAiRO debug question a good one.... off top of head not sure10:38
Dr_Willisargued:  i swap them out to USB enclosuires all the time10:38
Dr_Willisargued:  slowly moving things over to  enclosures with SATA connectors10:38
CAiROiflema: if i knew how to see the command that nautilus or the gnome panels tries to run10:38
CAiROiflema: i could probably spot the error10:38
arguedDr_Willis: alright then, I am of to the dealer so you guys have a nice day10:39
CAiROiflema: but my first problem is that nautlis always detaches itself from the terminal and seems to have no debug option10:39
iflemaCAiRO start it with a terminal gksu nautilus and watch the terminal for output...10:40
n8lagwhat is the .dmrc file for?10:40
Dr_Willisn8lag:  your GDM default sessuion setting10:41
CAiROiflema: as root, it works strangely10:41
iflemaCAiRO maybe10:41
n8lagsorry but what is gdm?10:42
zetheroois there any way to hide the desktop icons without disabling the desktop itself?10:42
n8laggnome something?10:42
Dr_Williszetheroo:  the ubuntu-tweak tool has a setting to do that10:42
Dr_Williszetheroo:  so its proberly some gnome/gconf setting10:42
zetherooDr_Willis: I mean hide all the icons .. not just the system icons10:42
Dr_Williszetheroo:  I seem to recall that beign a feature.. of course anything in Desktop might still show up10:43
HoodedRatserver irc.goto10.org10:44
Dr_Williszetheroo:  has a check box to 'Show Desktop Icons'10:44
Dr_Williszetheroo:  it hides them all here.. even things in Desktop10:44
zetherooDr_Willis: oh ok ... will try that out ...10:45
CAiROiflema: when i do it as root i can see entries like "Jan 23 11:40:56 belana hald: mounted /dev/sdd1 on behalf of uid 0" in my syslog10:46
CAiRObut not if i do it as user10:46
zetherooDr_Willis: hmm ... maybe I have to log out and back in for the changes to take effect10:47
n8lagi am trying to record with the mic like so:  rec foo.wav. i can hear the mic on earphones, but the .wav iss totally silent.  any ideas?10:47
Dr_Williszetheroo:  they got turned off here.. then nautilus crashed.. :)10:47
zetherooDr_Willis: hehe ... see when I untick "show_desktop" in gconf-editor I loose all the icons but I also loose the possibility to right-click on the desktop10:48
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krixiehi10:50
fourshoresudo apt-get install wine=1.1.3410:50
fourshoreversion 1.1.34 for wine was not found10:50
fourshorehelp10:50
papul!hi | krixie10:50
ubottukrixie: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!10:50
Dr_Williszetheroo:   could make hide the Volume and other special icons and just keep your Desktop directory empty10:50
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n8lagu can try :  apt-cache search wine10:51
n8lagthat will tell u all the wines they have10:51
zetherooDr_Willis: nah ... see I am using the Folder Screenlet ... :)10:51
CAiROiflema: just for your information, gnome-mount -vbd seems to have the debug output10:51
Dr_Williszetheroo:  never heard of it.. :) i find most widgits -- a pain10:51
iflemaCAiRO not there outda box...... but thank u.10:53
iflemaCAiRO hope ya find what ya need..... im worried because of the custom kernel and the adding of users to groups.... you have this trouble.... voids ya support warranty ;) its hard to know exactly what you have been up 2. sorry im not of more useful10:57
CAiROiflema: no problem, i've found a workaround meanwhile10:58
CAiROiflema: its somehow connected to the policy kit10:58
CAiROwhich thinks my user is not on a local console10:59
CAiROi wonder why it does that10:59
papulhow to use git with ubuntu?11:00
fourshoreafter decompressing the contents of a tar.bz2 file, how do i run the application/installer?11:00
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Dr_Willisfourshore:  totally depends on what it is/wqas in the arvhive11:03
syockitfourshore: try binary downloads instead11:03
mikebeechamdoes anyone know how to get spotify working under wine?  I installed it, it opens up...I can search, but no tracks play past 1 second???11:03
Dr_Willis!appdb11:03
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help11:03
eremitetest11:03
kostkonmikebeecham, check your sound prefs11:03
syockitfourshore: do you specifically need that version, or do you just want the latest version?11:04
kostkonmikebeecham, wine's sound prefs i mean. and install the latest version of wine. here's the ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/11:04
TeamColtrais there any simple "String Video Clips Together" type program? (I hate to use this example... but like windows movie maker ugh)11:04
kostkonmikebeecham, you may also find this page useful http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/11:05
fourshoresyockit, the latest version doesn't work with the program i'm trying to run, so i need that version11:05
NaamHi every one , i really need your help :'( i've installed Crunchbang On a USB (8Go) and i can't boot on other system because i have error 21 on boot :( Can someone help me ?11:07
TeamColtraNaam, #CrunchBang11:07
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Naamthanks i will try in this chanel11:07
eremiteNaam, join the channel #crunchbang11:07
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syockitfourshore: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html11:08
papulhi. i want to know what git is and how to use it?11:09
papulubuntu documentation SUCKS11:09
blue_pearlNaam: u there????11:09
Dr_Willis_!git11:09
ubottuGit is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)11:09
* Dr_Willis_ wonders how git Docs lead to the logic of ubuntu docs lacking...11:10
iflemapapul http://git-scm.com/11:10
TeamColtrapapul, why didn't you just try git --help11:10
papulman i have seen all that11:10
blue_pearlNaam:try reinstalling the grub.11:10
papulTeamColtra: i dont thinks i have git installed11:10
Dr_Willis_papul:  so ask a more specific question perhaps.11:10
TeamColtra... then sudo apt-get install git11:10
Dr_Willis_!info git11:10
ubottuPackage git does not exist in karmic11:10
papul!info git-core11:11
ubottugit-core (source: git-core): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3.3-2 (karmic), package size 6958 kB, installed size 14232 kB11:11
TeamColtra... then sudo apt-get install git-core11:11
TeamColtra:P sorry11:11
Dr_Willis_actually if ya type 'git' i think it tells you to install git-core. :)11:11
TeamColtraDr_Willis, I wouldn't know, when I type git it brings up options since I alreayd have it :P11:11
d3xterhey guys11:11
fourshoresyockit, what's the difference between i386, amd64 and lpia?11:12
Dr_Willis_TeamColtra:  same here..11:12
d3xteri've got an msi wind with a bison webcam. when i try to disable/enable my webcam with the fn-key, dmesg says "unkown keycode", which keycode should i set?11:12
papulbut what is git?11:12
TeamColtrapapul, its a revision control program11:13
Dr_Willis_fast, scalable, distributed revision control system11:13
TeamColtrapapul, if you are asking questions like that... then thats not Ubuntus fault, thats your non ability to do a google search11:13
papulso i get the latest versions of all programs?11:13
TeamColtrapapul, programs that use git revision system11:13
syockitfourshore: it's the architecture of the processor you're using. Actually what you need to download depends on which kernel you installed. Try this in terminal: uname -a11:13
d3xterany hints?11:14
CooPs89when I run TOP, how come the total memory used is a lot more than the sum of the RES column?11:14
papulso when i run git what happens? eg. if i run apt then it downloads a deb file and installs it. but what does git do?11:14
syockitfourshore: if it has x86_64, then you need amd64. if just x86, then i38611:15
coz_CooPs89,  try installing htop...I dont think you will get better info but maybe better to read and far11:15
coz_more options11:15
Dr_Willis_papul:  git lets people work together on source code in a organized maner.11:15
fourshoresyockit, Linux Mick-desktop 2.6.31-17-generic-pae #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:23:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux11:15
Dr_Willis_I imagine git could work on other things also.. :) but code is the main ussage11:16
papulthen it of no use to me.11:16
Eagle_hi guys11:16
Dr_Willis_papul:  we never said it was.11:16
syockitfourshore: i686 huh? I suppose you can use the i386 one11:16
papulbtw this is the page that SUCKS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git11:16
Dr_Willis_make it better. then.11:16
coz_papul,  only if you decide to compile an application from source that is on git11:16
coz_papul,  then you would need to have git-core installed11:16
lightbrickoMy secondary HDD doesn't get mounted anymore. It happened today, and I've not done anything. It's in fstab. It doesn't get mounted at boot and when trying to mount it manually I get "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/SamsungPartition busy". Can someone help?11:17
* Dr_Willis_ wonders why papul says the page sucks.. if he dident even know what the page was about.11:17
Dr_Willis_but  thats proberly OT. :)11:17
papulDr_Willis_: have u seen arch documentation? they are much better11:17
papulubuntu is the most widely use linux distro11:18
Dr_Willis_papul:  i gave up on arch - if you like arch - go use it i guess11:18
* TeamColtra is trying to figure out how such a detailed help page, can "suck"11:18
papulits documentation should be good11:18
coz_papul,  how new to linux are you?11:18
Dr_Willis_You can edit teh documeion if you wanted to. Ive helped tweak seeral of the docs11:18
papul1.5 yrs experience11:18
papulmaybe more11:18
coz_papul, oh well... then any of the distributions should suit you ...ubuntu can be as complex or ready to go easy as you make it11:19
fourshoresyockit, Error: Breaks exisiting package 'wine1.2' conflict: wine (< 1.2)11:19
Parsinetworkmanager does not work:(11:19
oCean_papul: if you find it insufficient, then contribute. That's what a community is about. But this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic11:19
* TeamColtra has 5 years experience and still uses Linux Mint (mainly for the community)11:19
coz_o011:20
* TeamColtra is not trying to troll just saying.11:20
oCean_!doesnotwork | Parsi11:20
syockityup, wine1.2 doesn't allow older wine to exist. you may need to uninstall it first11:20
ParsiI added DSL connection, but shows nothing to select11:20
rwwoCean_: I'm guessing you want !work11:20
fourshoresyockit, but i can't even do that11:20
oCean_rww: ghe, yep, that's the one11:21
oCean_!work | Parsi11:21
ubottuParsi: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:21
syockitfourshore: why? sudo apt-get remove wine1.2 , or anything like it?11:21
fourshoresyockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, sudo apt-get remove wine11:21
ParsioCean_: ah, I said, I added a DSL connection but there is nothing to select11:21
fourshoresyockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, Package wine is not installed, so not removed11:22
syockitfourshore: sudo apt-get remove wine1.211:22
richardshey, i've got a new ubuntu 9.10 server install that i would like to have multiple IPs on different VLAN's on.  However, only the vlan I specify the gateway on works. if i specify gateway in multiple interfaces, then the last one i specify works.11:22
* iflema flash-less youtube... amen..... 11:22
fourshorehmm that worked11:22
fourshorebut why is it 1.2 when it's actually 1.1.36?11:22
sebsebseb!server | richards11:23
ubotturichards: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support11:23
richardslooking in tcpdump shows that pings to ip's that aren't working are being received in the expected place but doesn't show any responses to them.11:23
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oCean_Parsi: in what way you "added a DSL connection" ?11:23
richardsthanks, will ask there11:23
sebsebsebrichards: np11:23
ParsioCean_: right click on networknamager and select "Edit conenctions"11:24
Parsi*connections11:24
isolat3dsh33panyone knows the shortcut to focus the entry box in nautilus file browser?11:24
Parsithere is  'ifupdown(eth0)' connection in the wired conenctions11:25
rwwisolat3dsh33p: if you mean the one where you input a folder to go to, Ctrl-L11:25
isolat3dsh33prww, that's it. Thanks :)11:26
rwwisolat3dsh33p: same shortcut as the address bar in various web browsers, incidentally11:26
syockitfourshore: maybe you accidentally installed wine1.2 previously11:26
isolat3dsh33prww, thank's again :D11:26
Parsiwhet I click on NetworkManager opened menu has a disabled Item 'Device is not managed'11:27
Parsi*when11:27
MauritianGuyhola11:28
toni_hola a tod@s11:28
ubuntu51hello11:28
MauritianGuylol11:29
ubuntu51please help me to change my login themes in new  version of ubuntu11:29
MauritianGuyi am getting grey hair11:29
toni_today it's ubuntu user day and at 16:00 let's start , it's true??11:29
ubuntu51i can't change my login themes11:29
MauritianGuyi was able to finally install my sound drivers11:29
Dr_Willis_ubuntu51:  install the old gdm if you want to use all the old gdm themes.. the new gdm is not as theable, theres a few tweaks you can do, and the 'epidermis' tool can install/enable a few themes for it11:29
ubuntu51any available program to change login themes in new ubuntu11:29
MauritianGuythank god ausus made a package that does all the updates and installation all at once for the onboard sound drivers it even removed the default one11:30
MauritianGuybut i am still struggling with Nvidia11:30
ubuntu51what the version of old gdm11:30
coz_UbuntU,  well its actually going to use the installed gtk2 themes you have already let me get the command11:30
teflon.11:30
Dr_Willis_ubuntu51:  the 9.04 release has the older gdm. 9.10 uses the new gdm.  the old is still in the repios11:31
ubuntu51i already install gdm11:31
MauritianGuydoes anyone know where i can get someting called a foo-dev or foo-devel11:31
ubuntu51but i can't change11:31
MauritianGuyi googled it i cant find it11:31
Dr_Willis_ubuntu51:  gdm is installed by default allready... what exactly did you install?11:31
coz_ubuntu51,  sorry that was for you hold on11:31
sebsebsebubuntu51: as far as I know it's not as simple as just installing the old GDM, you would have to enable it.   there is some program apparnatly that can maybe change theme for new GDM, can't remember what it's called now, plus not in the repo.   So probably better to just install KDM for example which is in the repo11:31
sebsebseb!info kdm11:31
ubottukdm (source: kdebase-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu7.1 (karmic), package size 1747 kB, installed size 4064 kB11:31
MauritianGuyi think its a compler for cc or c++11:31
coz_ubuntu51,  run this command   change the gtk2 theme  which will change the gdm theme only  then reboot      gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties11:32
rapcorepoznan.irc.pl11:33
coz_ubuntu51,   at this point I am using the balanzan theme under user account and also the balanzan gtk2 theme under root which will change the login screen to match my user theme11:33
* Dr_Willis_ dosent worry about themes for somthing he only sees for like 10 sec when he first logins11:33
sebsebsebubuntu51: KDM looks nice by default,  how Ubuntu does GDM 2 is way to dark for me11:34
coz_Dr_Willis_,  no but that dark gdm theme is difficult to read at least for me :)11:34
Dr_Willis_actually I think this box may be using KDM becauise i never changed it back. :)11:34
ubuntu51i already install gdm 2.011:34
Dr_Willis_some bright ugly checkbord wallpaper its using11:34
Dr_Willis_!info gdm11:35
ubottugdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 656 kB, installed size 7280 kB11:35
coz_Dr_Willis_,  eeww11:35
ubuntu51u suggest to use old gdm11:35
sebsebsebDr_Willis_: yeah KDM has a blue theme by default for KDM11:35
sebsebsebubuntu51: no I suggest to try KDM11:35
Dr_Willis_ubuntu51:  depemnds on what you want/need...  I suggest not worrying too much about themes.11:35
triple-15#yogyakarta11:36
papulany one using a mac theme here?11:36
coz_ubuntu51,  changing the gdm ...as i mentioned..isnt difficult just a pain in the butt :)11:36
Dr_Willis_papul:  seen them in the repos.. and basically hated them all. :)11:36
MauritianGuywhat was the ubuntu off topic channel called again11:36
Dr_Willis_!ot11:36
papulmee too11:36
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!11:36
MauritianGuyi mean i cant join it11:36
sebsebsebubuntu51: in a way it's a bit silly to put  the old GDM  on in Karmic, in my opinion anyway,  may as well just use KDM instead, oh and sure that can get themed, I just have never bothered myself11:37
rwwMauritianGuy: typing "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" doesn't work?11:37
MauritianGuyman ubottu  is a realy good bot11:37
Dr_Willis_set auto login,.  :) gdm just blinks and logs in11:37
syockitMauritianGuy: please register your nick11:37
ubuntu51kdmgdm is really working in my new ubuntu? what do u think11:37
MauritianGuyi did not put the - inbetween lol11:37
syockitoh11:37
MauritianGuyi am der11:37
PFAhey, what's the name of the gnome power monitor thing?11:38
sebsebsebubuntu51: I don't understand11:38
ubuntu51kdm11:38
hiexpodaughter2011:38
luisgmarineHello11:38
skillerhi11:38
ubuntu51is really work in karmic11:39
MauritianGuyoh syockit  i think i did register my nick11:39
coz_ubuntu51,   are you on KDE?11:39
ubuntu51no11:39
ubuntu51gnomw11:39
ubuntu51gnome11:39
sebsebsebubuntu51: you  can try KDM, if you don't like it you can switch back to  the new GDM, or try using the old one.   plus KDM can be themed.   Only thing is KDM is a KDE app meaning it will want to put on quite a few things.11:39
luisgmarineI'm running Kubuntu and after my computer restarted, I can't change my resolution back to 1920 x 1080, and I'm stuck using this 420 x 30011:39
falcongazehi11:39
sebsebsebubuntu51: if you haven't installed KDE stuff into Ubuntu/Gnome before11:39
MauritianGuysup coz_11:39
PFAokay, never mind that, but how do i get to the equivalent of "run" in windows?11:39
hiexpogot a prob here i can not figure out with tucan manager was booting now i goofed it11:39
coz_ubuntu51, oh  ok... well  I like kde's login screen but  gdm is fine11:39
coz_MauritianGuy,  hey guy :)11:39
syockitPFA: alt-f211:39
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coz_MauritianGuy,  so did that work for you?11:40
PFAsyockit: thanks11:40
sebsebsebcoz_: well GDM 2 isn't  when people want to theme it like the old one, such as this person11:40
coz_sebsebseb,  but is not hard to do11:40
sebsebsebcoz_: I wanted to do that, but KDM is fine for me11:40
coz_sebsebseb,  although you only get colour changes11:40
coz_with gdm11:40
sebsebsebcoz_: exactly only colour changes, not a proper theme, which is what people want11:40
coz_sebsebseb,  believe me I understand11:41
luisgmarinecan anyon ehelp me change my resolution, It reset to a lower one and wont allow me to make changes11:41
ubuntu51what do u think11:41
MauritianGuyi didn't work coz_ there is an error with th3e letc/init.d/gdm stop part11:41
ubuntu51kdm is compatible to gnome11:41
sebsebsebubuntu51: yes11:41
ubuntu51ok11:41
sebsebsebubuntu51: you can log into Ubuntu/Gnome using KDM11:41
ubuntu51i try11:41
coz_MauritianGuy, mm   then you might have  to replace that with   service  gdm stop11:41
MauritianGuycoz_,  i got an error no such file or directory11:41
coz_MauritianGuy,  for which the nvidia driver package?11:42
sebsebsebubuntu51: when you install it, and it asks which to use, remember to put KDM11:42
MauritianGuy190.5311:42
hiexpohmm11:42
Dr_Willis_'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' :) will make it ask if you want to change back11:42
sebsebsebDr_Willis_: yeah that I guess, or  ubuntu51 could uninstall it11:43
eliofeliof11:43
Parsihwo can I reconfigute NetworkManager?11:43
Parsi*how11:43
coz_MauritianGuy,  I was afraid of that...for some reason some karmic systems are still using   "service  gdm  stop  or start or restart"   here it has reverted back to  /etc/init.d/gdm11:43
Parsi.networkmanager11:43
Parsi!networkmanager11:44
ubottunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager11:44
skillersome one uses bactrack??11:44
Dr_Willis_skiller:  they giot their own support channel11:44
MauritianGuyi am not sure what u mean coz_11:44
nastashi all11:44
coz_MauritianGuy,  ok the part I mentione that uses  /etc/init.d/gdm  stop   can be replace by      service gdm stop11:44
syockitParsi: umm don't know if it will work: sudo service network-manager restart11:44
coz_MauritianGuy, so instead of   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  use        service gdm stop11:45
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coz_MauritianGuy,  the rest of the  instructions should be the same11:45
coz_MauritianGuy,  also after you do the     sudo -i       you dont need to use sudo any longer   just type in the commands11:46
MauritianGuyso i just use service gdm stop as a command11:46
MauritianGuykool11:46
MauritianGuyi'll just try that now coz the driver is still uninstall is that kool11:46
coz_MauritianGuy,  yes where I said to use   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  you will now use     service  gdm stop   instead11:46
Dr_Willis_its a GOOD idea to get in the habbit of using the 'service' command11:46
Dr_Willis_forget about /etc/init.d/XXXXXX11:47
coz_Dr_Willis_,  no longer works on this clean install11:47
ectospasmI'm SOOOO glad Debian/Ubuntu decided to add the service command!11:47
brijithHello friends ,Evolution can not connect to Gmail behind a  proxy server11:47
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Dr_Willis_ectospasm:  But im not sure hiow it compares to the simallery named command in other disrtos. :)11:48
MauritianGuyhow do i know if it worked coz_11:48
ectospasmbrijith: is that a question or a statement11:48
coz_MauritianGuy,  you wont get an error :)11:48
ectospasmDr_Willis_: from my limited usage of it in Ubuntu, it seems the same... not sure about chkconfig though.11:48
MauritianGuykool than i got like a list of weird stuff i guess it worked then11:48
coz_I know that on this system ...after several updates....service gdm   no longer works   only /etc/init.d/gdm11:49
brijithectospasm: I can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server in access Internet11:49
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ectospasmbrijith: I don't know Evolution, sorry.  Can you access Gmail with a web browser?11:49
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Parsisyockit: network-manager start/running, process 667411:50
brijithectospasm: YEs I can access gmail through browser11:51
ectospasmbrijith: using the proxy?11:52
brijithectospasm: yes11:52
hiexpoAttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'AnonymousDownload'11:52
brijithectospasm: I can see prosy settings in evolution11:52
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brijithectospasm: but it is not working even if I set those settings11:52
ectospasmbrijith: I dunno, I don't use Evolution11:53
brijithectospasm: ok no problem11:53
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brijithI can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server for access Internet11:54
syockitParsi: so do you have the network interface managed yet?11:55
Parsisyockit: no, and I don't know how to11:55
luisgmarinehello guys.  After I restarted my computer, I'm stuck in a 640x480 resolution.  But going through the menues I can't seem to change it back, any suggestions?11:55
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syockitParsi: was it like that all along, or did it just suddenly become like that?11:57
helboyubuntu hungary?11:57
LjL!hu11:58
helboyhungary chat?11:58
brontosaurusrexeasy way to browse win network in xubuntu?11:58
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál11:58
Parsisyockit: yes, all the time since 9.1011:58
bazhanghelboy, #ubuntu-hu11:58
mondoshawanhey all ... is there a texteditor who can read cryptet files ... ex: i have a textfile and with pgp i have now a textfil.pgp    now it would be cool that one editor asksme for password and schows me the textfile11:58
luisgmarinecan anyone help me reset nvidia settings?11:59
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Dr_Willis_luisgmarine:  you could move/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think if the settingsd are in there.12:00
upgrayeddhow do get another channel??12:00
Dr_Willis_upgrayedd:   /join #funstuff12:00
upgrayeddkay thanks12:00
ectospasmwhat's in #funstuff12:00
ectospasm?12:00
luisgmarineDr_Willis_, yeah still can't explain why my settings changed after a darn reboot12:00
upgrayeddhow do search for channels?12:01
ectospasmupgrayedd: /list, and then duck.12:01
Dr_Willis_!channels12:01
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines12:01
upgrayeddthanx12:01
luisgmarinescrew this I'm just going to re-install12:01
Dr_Willis_luisgmarine:  sounds like windows training kicking in! :)12:02
Dr_Willis_luisgmarine:  what got changed exactly?12:02
luisgmarineDr_Willis_, my resolution.  It's stuck at 640x480 and I can't change it12:02
Dr_Willis_luisgmarine:  that sounds like the nvidia drivers got broken or somthing12:03
yofelUbuntu User Day starting now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays12:03
luisgmarineDr_Willis_, yeah going to try to re-install them12:03
Flannelyofel: Please don't advertise here.  #ubuntu-offtopic is appropriate, #ubuntu isn't.  Thanks12:03
luisgmarineDr_Willis_, I find KDE harder to use than GNOme for some reason.  They don't have an easy option to re-install like they do in synaptic12:03
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yofelFlannel: ok, sorry12:03
e3p3rry#join ubuntu-classroom12:05
hiexpohaving a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df79412:06
domenico__ciao ragà, sono nuovo12:06
ubuntu51any easy way to change login screen in karmic12:06
Batduck1969#ubuntu-classroom12:06
domenico__ma qui siete italiani?12:07
ubuntu51i can't change my login screen12:07
ubuntu51i can't install old gdm12:07
ubuntu51what i can do to change login screen12:07
domenico__Who is italian here?12:07
rwwubottu: it | domenico__12:07
ubottudomenico__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:07
coz_ubuntu51,    gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties    choose the theme  then reboot12:07
domenico__ok grazie12:08
jiohdianyone know why UNR cannot connect to ubuntu one... says that a newer version of the server is needed?12:08
neil_dMy raid1 setup doesn't appear to be correct... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid as degraded :(  it leaves the only HDD as a spare :(  what can I do about this?12:08
swiftarrowHi!  I installed 9.10 on my Inspiron 1100, and now it's hanging a lot.  How can I fix it?12:08
ectospasmswiftarrow: is there anything in /var/log/messages which may indicate the problem?12:09
hiexposwiftarrow, - did you update12:09
Ven]nhi12:09
Ven]nhow do I skip the network manager asking for password for keyring to connect to wifi?12:10
swiftarrowhiexpo, I did a fresh install12:10
saftsackhey, how can i reinitialize alsa? i have a new soundcard but all configuration files are for the old one :(12:10
swiftarrowectospasm, I'll take a look12:10
hiexpoi tried that and rm -r it12:10
swiftarrowectospasm, what should I look for?12:10
coz_saftsack,  I think    /etc/init.d/alsa restart12:11
ectospasmswiftarrow: I'd look for any kernel panics, or any other message just prior to a restart.12:11
hiexpooh sorry was talking about somrthing else12:11
ectospasmswiftarrow: the exact form is variable.12:11
ectospasmswiftarrow: this also assumes that /var/log/messges captures the problem )-;12:11
swiftarrowectospasm, I'm booting it right now12:12
ectospasmswiftarrow: I'd recommend using vim (VIMproved) to look at the logs, for syntax highlighting (vim -R /var/log/messages)12:12
ubuntu51can't enabled to locate12:12
swiftarrowectospasm, will it still be there after a boot?12:13
ectospasmswiftarrow: it should be... it's dmesg that gets wiped on boot12:13
ectospasmswiftarrow: many times problems like this don't show up in /var/log/messages, so this really is a shot in the dark.12:14
saftsackcoz_, i did a reboot but i cant run alsamixer as root12:14
swiftarrowectospasm, I have messages and messages.1, which one?12:14
coz_mm12:14
saftsackmodules are loaded correctly (emu10k1)12:14
ectospasmswiftarrow: messages will be the most recent12:14
do0obhi12:16
do0obis there anything like this for gnome?  http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=118823&file1=118823-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Leo-like-bespin+pack12:16
swiftarrowectospasm, I can't find where it must have frozen...12:17
swiftarrowectospasm, I see a lot of "Unable to read EDID bloc." errors12:18
ectospasmswiftarrow: I'd find where syslog restarts (go to the end of the file and work up), and see if you find any clues just above that.  This is not an exact science, so there12:18
hiexpohaving a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df79412:18
ectospasmswiftarrow: I'm not sure what those are, are those in some kernel module?12:18
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swiftarrowectospasm, i guess, it says "Username kernel: numbers: i2c-adapter itc-0: unable to read EDID block"12:19
hathi all! does anybody know if there is an ext3 build of ubuntu 9.10? i'm having problems with ext4.. :(12:20
neil_dif I have a raid1 setup mounted as "/"... and I unplug a drive (when off).. shouldn't the computer still boot?12:20
Vincent_kwhy isnt acpi-cpufreq present in karmic12:20
ectospasmhmmm, you've got a problem with i2c... that's not good.12:21
Vincent_kthe module12:21
ectospasmswiftarrow: ^^^12:21
swiftarrowectospasm, pardon my ignorance... what's i2c?12:21
Vincent_ki have a centrino notebook12:21
Dr_Willis_hat:  you could tell the installer/partiomner to use ext3 if you wanted to12:21
hatDr_Willis_: how would i do that? i'm not really familiar with messing with the partitions manually..12:22
ectospasmi2c (I squared C) is a signaling protocol on your motherboard, used for things like temperature sensors12:22
Vincent_kthe funny thing is that the scaling applet in ubuntu seem to scale without any acpi module loaded12:22
ectospasmswiftarrow: ^^^12:22
Dr_Willis_hat:  just make some ext3 partitons and tell the installer to mount them as / and /home if you wanted both.12:22
ekpyroticHey guys need a hand, I'm instlling Ubuntu to a USB, how big should the USB be?12:23
hatDr_Willis_: how would i do that?!12:23
Dr_Willis_hat:  dont forget to make a swap partition also.12:23
Dr_Willis_hat:  the installer has a partioner tool. time to check it out.. or use gparted befor starting the installer.12:23
arand_ekpyrotic: As in a liveUSB, persisten or a normal diskinstall.. on a stick?12:24
Dr_Willis_hat:   the custom partioning   option in the installer lets you select where to mouint things12:24
hatDr_Willis_: ok thanks very much..12:24
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ectospasmswiftarrow: you may want to scour Launchpad to see if anyone has filed a bug on it12:24
Vincent_kanyone? what modules do you use?12:25
iflemahat problem with ubuntu and ext4 or with another distro accessing ubuntus ext4?12:25
ekpyroticI assum I can install liveUSB from the disk, right? So, liveUSB. I can install software?12:25
swiftarrowectospasm, ok.  I'm looking through messages to see if anything else looks suspect12:25
ectospasmswiftarrow: using vim will really help, because downright errors will show up in red12:26
ectospasmswiftarrow: "aptitude -y install vim" if you haven't already12:26
swiftarrowectospasm, ok, thanks! I'll get vim then12:26
johntramphi.12:30
ekpyroticQuestions about LiveUSB: will I be able to install software from the software centre (I can't do that just booting from disc).12:30
johntrampis there a way to have make a notification even triggered by anther machine on the network12:30
ectospasmekpyrotic: I think you can, you need to make sure you've got enough room on the USB thumb drive though12:30
johntrampis it libnotify which shows up when i change from power to battery for eg12:31
Craig_Demlibnotify provides the notifications on the desktop, yes,12:31
johntrampok12:32
ekpyroticectoplasm, if I buy a 6gb usb will that be adaquate?12:32
johntrampso is there a way to broadcast an event on the network to show up on libnotify12:32
ajhaverycould you suggest a mp3 player for kde12:32
ajhavery?12:32
johntrampamarok12:32
ajhaveryamarok can't import from    other filesysytems on the hard drive12:33
ajhaveryi have windows 7 installed on one partition and my music collection is in windows12:33
SwianXrythmbox12:33
swiftarrowectospasm, does it only sho errors on /var/messages?12:33
swiftarrowectospasm, I'm browsing /media/KING/messages12:34
swiftarrowand it's all one color12:34
ajhaveryso i want a mp3 player which could import media libraray from windows12:34
ectospasmswiftarrow: what, vim?  You'll have to tell vim you're reading a messages log12:34
SwianXajharvey I do that with rythmbox12:34
ectospasmswiftarrow: try ":set filetype messages"12:34
vilinyHey! Anyone know how i can get rid of this: E: grub-pc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 112:34
vilinyE: grub2: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured - it comes up every time i install something :/12:34
ectospasmswiftarrow: and ":syntax on"12:34
swiftarrowunknown option: messages12:35
swiftarrowectospasm, ^^^12:35
ajhaverythanx12:35
IgramulHi, on http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/asterisk-chan-capi I can see that CAPI support for the asterisk PBX needs asterisk 1.4. However, that is not available. Is there somewhere CAPI support for the current asterisk version (i.e. 1.6)?12:35
ajhaverybur rythmbox works well on gnome12:36
ajhaverydoes it perorm well on kde also?12:36
Dynetrekkhi, any filezilla users here? I have problems connecting to a server, and I suspect filezilla tries to use FTP rather than SFTP... how can I make sure it uses sftp?12:36
SwianXI don't use kde so I don't know12:36
SwianXbut give it a try12:36
supernapalmhey I'm pretty much at a dead end, is anyone here familiar with Usenet? Specificaly Newshosting12:36
swiftarrowectospasm, got it.  setfiletype messages12:37
ajhaveryok12:37
rt2570hi anybody got any luck with an wifi usb stick with rt2570 chipset ... I tried all kinds of howto's and ndiswrapper stuff etc ...12:37
Igramulsupernapalm, do You want to host a nntp server?12:37
TaylDynetrekk: Go to the site manager and configure it to SFTP ther.12:37
rt2570.12:37
Taylthere.*12:37
DynetrekkTayl: what do you mean by "site manager"? is it a setting in filezilla?12:37
supernapalmI have really bad downloading speeds, my average is supposed to be 600kbps but it's 30kbps MAX right now...12:37
TaylDynetrekk: File >> Site Manager12:38
rt2570I got ubuntu 9.10 it works sometimes and sometimes it justs disconnects ? it's a sweex lc100060 usb stick12:38
swiftarrowectospasm, it's just coloured stuff... all the numbers are read, but no whole lines. Even the ones that I told you about.12:38
TaylDynetrekk: Create a new site connection profile to the FTP/SFTP you're trying to connect to.12:38
TaylDynetrekk: Just be sure to change the servertype to SFTP.12:39
DynetrekkTayl: I'll look into it, thanks.12:39
TaylDynetrekk: You're welcome.12:39
supernapalmdownloading things through my browser is fine, but the Usenet thing is god awfuly slow, using Alt Binz as the program12:40
supernapalmI've tried the alt ports that Newshosting suggests but no difference12:40
supernapalmam I better off going to another channel that deals with newsgroups? I have no clue where to get my problem answered, and Newshosting is taking ages to reply to my email12:41
JHPrykeHey, im trying to install the beta version for my graphics driver, its a .run file so i type in sudo sh ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.30-pkg1.run.... it loads up fine but says i need to kill X Server to install, any thoughts on this?12:42
llutz!info lxde-common12:43
sebsebsebsupernapalm: ##networking  ##linux  maybe I don't know12:43
ubottulxde-common (source: lxde-common): the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment configuration data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 814 kB, installed size 1100 kB12:43
Xfactcan anyone tell me what is gnome display manager?12:43
sebsebsebsupernapalm: maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic12:43
llutzXfact: gdm, the graphical "login-manager"12:43
Xfact llutz: updating gdm to the latest is important?12:44
supernapalmwell I'll give it a try, I'm trying to download a 16gb file(s) and 30kbps speed isn't gonna cut it for me lol12:44
girirkenHaving problem with flash player in youtube. Ubuntu Karmic, FF 3.5.7, flash 10,0,42,34 installed. Clicking on any button doesnt work, flash becomes unresponsive. Only reloading all the pages (and sometimes restarting FF) fix this.12:44
sebsebsebXfact: the default log in screen for Ubuntu, which version of Ubuntu are you on?12:44
Xfactsebsebseb: 9.1012:44
girirkenIt happens after using youtube a few times, the problem doesnt happen right away.12:44
sebsebsebgirirken: ah yes Firefox Flash issues's you can try another browser that uses the same Flash such as galeon and Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser12:45
sebsebseb)12:45
Xfactafter updating gdm my computer is getting inaccessible :(12:45
DynetrekkTayl: worked great, thanks!12:45
girirkensebsebseb: so its a known issue?12:45
Tr1n_girken:  I'm on Karmic, my flash shound disappears in all browsers after a random amount of time12:45
TaylDynetrekk: Glad to be of help =)12:45
sebsebsebgirirken: yes Firefox Flash issues are quite known in Ubuntu,  since Flash is closed source and so on12:45
sebsebsebgirirken: there's also Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives, but might not be good enough for your Flash useage12:46
Xfactanyone can help on gdm?12:46
girirkenoh I see... well maybe i'll have a look then, thanks12:46
sebsebsebXfact: not sure, but you could use KDM instead for example :)12:46
sebsebsebXfact: ,but you now can't log in using GDM?12:46
girirkenoh also on another topic, can anyone tell me about, if in the login screen, I choose console login... how in the world can I go back to kdm/gdm/etc ?12:47
JHPrykeHow would i disable X-Server, so i can run my graphics driver install?12:47
sebsebsebgirirken: probably some other way as well, but turn the computer off and on again?12:48
girirkenyes i know it but its gotta be another way12:48
XfactAfter updating gdm, at the position of login screen, everything is flickering (monitor or my keyboard, mouse, and cup lights...!) horribly!12:48
TeLLuSgirirken: exit  ?12:48
girirkenrunning startx or anyth like that doesnt solve it because it enters with my user already12:48
sebsebsebXfact: ok12:49
sebsebsebXfact: can you log into Ubuntu from GDM though?12:49
Xfactso I am currently using the older version of gdm and it's working fairly..yet12:49
girirkenTeLLuS: exit just goes to the console login12:49
iflemagirirken im assuming your on 64bit? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html extract and put it in /home/[whatever]/.mozilla/plugins mae the folder plugins yoursel if does not exist..mozilla in a12:49
girirkeniflema: nope, 32bit12:49
TeLLuSgirirken: Did you wait a few seconds?12:49
sebsebsebXfact: using the older version of GDM is a bit silly in my opinion, since KDM is good and can be installed and used from the repo :)12:49
llutzJHPryke: sudo service gdm stop12:50
girirkenTeLLuS: well actually i use ctrl+d to exit but its the same right12:50
iflemagirirken ooo. sorry12:50
TeLLuSgirirken: Yes. Is gdm or kdm still running?12:50
JHPrykeThank you sir12:50
Xfactsebsebseb: ubuntu is gdm based, kdm will not harm it?12:50
girirkenTeLLuS: no its not running12:50
XfactI mean gnome based12:50
sebsebsebXfact: it's a KDE app, meaning if you haven't installed those before, it will want to put a bit of KDE stuff on12:50
llutzXfact: you also can use slim or xdm12:50
girirkeni think i have to try it12:50
girirkenok let me try it12:50
sebsebsebXfact: llutz  there's slim ,but that's not in the repo, and apparnatly  xdm isn't that good12:51
ectospasmxdm is fugly12:51
llutzsebsebseb: what do you miss with xdm?12:51
TeLLuSgirirken: Then start it with.. sudo service gdm/kdm start12:51
sebsebsebllutz: I haven't used it properly,  I think I had it enabled once  in Ubuntu or a vm or whatever can't quite remember12:51
Xfactwell, finally I question is xdm, kdm, gdm theses apps are not that important to update?12:52
sebsebsebllutz: pretty sure someone told me on IRC that it wasn't that good though,  or something like that12:52
Xfact*my12:52
llutzsebsebseb: so FUD, thx12:52
sebsebsebllutz: it's more limiting in what it can do than GDM and KDM or something like that12:52
ectospasmllutz: last I used xdm, it still used Motif12:52
* ectospasm shudders12:52
SirNothusHmm, I think I broke update-grub12:52
llutzsebsebseb: it does what it was developed for: manage user-logins12:52
krautmoin12:53
fwaokdaanyone here know how I can install the sdk to ubuntu 9.10 through terminal? I don't want eclipse btw12:53
sebsebsebXfact: just get the security updates from the Ubuntu repo, and useually you will be fine12:53
sebsebsebXfact: well the updates you get are only security updates,  or useually only security updates12:53
setuidHow do I play ASF video (in a .wmv file)? xine, mplayer, vlc don't do it after installing all of the available codecs12:53
sebsebseb!medibuntu | setuid12:54
ubottusetuid: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org12:54
Xfactwell, it would be awesome if ubuntu has any 'system restore' or that kind of apps, that helps to put everything in previous state before the error occurs.. (these is a nice feature of windows)12:54
llutzectospasm: who cares12:54
sebsebsebsetuid: think something in medibuntu for that12:54
SirNothusI don't think it should run for over 1 minute at 90% CPU, and I don't think my menu.lst file should be 3MB in size..12:54
ectospasmllutz: like I said, it's fugly.  Matter of taste, really12:54
ectospasmIt's got the same basic functionality of gdm and kdm12:54
ectospasm...may be more or less configurable, I'm not sure.12:54
llutzectospasm: as i said: it manages user-logins, not more not less. so it might be an alternative to those, who do not need all that pointless fancy graphics-foo12:56
sebsebsebllutz: KDM is also much  more used  than xdm by Ubuntu users, so probably  another reason why it's better to recommend KDM12:56
sebsebsebllutz: altough if someone said that about  xchat  and Konversation,  saying xchat would be better to recommend, beause it's more used than Konversation,   I woudn't agree12:57
llutzsebsebseb: i won't recommend kdm to people not using KDE12:57
hyperstreamGnome is fine :)12:57
* SirNothus recommends Slackware12:57
sebsebsebllutz: I think recommending KDM is fine, as long as it's made clear to them, that it will put on other KDE stuff and quite a bit of it, if they haven't installed KDE apps into Ubuntu/Gnome before12:58
sebsebsebhyperstream: well that new GDM 2 isn't for quite a lot of us12:59
ranjanhello every body .. does any body know how to apply patch ... on xserver13:00
ranjanas13:00
setuidsebsebseb, Thanks for the link... however, nothing in medibuntu plays asf ither13:00
setuids/ither/either/13:00
ranjanthe path that is avilable on http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/13:00
sebsebsebsetuid: well propritary codecs13:00
sebsebseb!codecs13:00
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:00
llutzsetuid: isn't asf just a file, containing a link to the "real" media-file?13:01
sebsebsebsetuid: probalby something for Desktop Linux that can do it, but if not well,  you could  Wine some Windows program for it I expect13:01
setuidsebsebseb, Same thing, those codecs (in ubuntu-restricted-extras) does not include an asf codec13:02
girirkenso in the login screen I opted for console login... KDM is still a process, but alt+f7 is blank. typing EXIT just goes back to the console login. How do I go back to X?13:02
setuidsebsebseb, it's a Microsoft-provided .wmv file, in an executable file, which is ASF encoded13:02
aciculaasf is a container, not a codec13:02
sebsebsebsetuid: by the way it's possible to do WMP under Wine13:02
sebsebsebsetuid: 10 and 11 yeah13:02
aciculamplayer -playlist should be able to deal with it?13:02
sebsebseband older13:02
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dayois this usr day?13:04
sebsebsebsetuid: plus foobar2000 can play pretty much anything I think,  or is that just for music hrm, anyway you can Wine that13:04
ikonia?13:04
BlessJahhi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from kubuntu/ubuntu with installed kde (has to be 9.04), could someone pastebin it?13:04
* iflema hybrid theory13:04
girirkenno one?13:05
SirNothusCan anyone spot the error in my grub conf file? http://www.madmonks.org/~mattw/menu.lst13:05
ikoniano one what ?13:05
BlessJahno one?13:05
girirkenmy problem is above13:05
aciculagirirken: try logout instead of exit?13:05
girirkenhmmm let me see13:05
ikoniaSirNothus: what problem are you having ?13:06
girirkenno logout and exit are the same13:06
setuidgirirken, No they are not13:06
aciculagirirken: weird13:06
girirkeni just tried13:06
girirkenok let me see i'll have to leave irc wait13:06
girirkeni tried on the 2nd console13:06
SirNothusikonia: update-grub runs forever13:06
aciculais X still running?13:06
lolnic_hi, I just upgraded to 10.04 and NetworkManager isn't working properly. I suspect that it hasn't found my wireless card, what can i do?13:06
sebsebseblolnic_: #ubuntu+1 for 10.0413:06
aciculalolnic_: ask in #ubuntu+1, lucid is not supported here13:06
ikoniaSirNothus: how do you know that's a error in the menu.lst ?13:07
bazhangdayo, in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat13:07
lolnic_okay, thanks, sorry13:07
SirNothusikonia: Umm, take a look at the file I just linked and take a wild guess ;-)13:07
girirkenno, logout went back to console login13:07
aciculagirirken: is X still running as a process?13:07
aciculagirirken: you could try stopping and starting gdm13:08
aciculaor kdm, whichever you are using13:08
girirkenkdm is13:08
girirkenkdm is running13:08
dayobazhang: ok thanks13:08
aciculayeah, and is X?13:08
girirkenwell if the X process is called X anything, no it isnt13:08
aciculagirirken: stop kdm, sudo service stop kdm13:09
aciculaerr service kdm stop13:09
aciculaand then start it again with start13:09
girirkenok it worked but thats not very user friendly13:10
girirkenwas it supposed to be like this?13:10
girirkenor maybe its because this is Kubuntu?13:10
brontosaurusrexeasy way to browse win network in xubuntu?13:10
brontosaurusrexthunar?13:11
TimeFXI am using Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic, and I have a problem with sound in Gnome, my snd card is detected by alsa and but I only get dummy output for the sound settings in Gnome, any ideas? I ve tried various guides on the web with no avail.13:11
aciculagirirken: dunno, normally people dont go from kdm to an old school console13:11
sebsebsebbrontosaurusrex: If you don't get a proper answer here soon you can try #xubuntu13:11
girirkenbback13:11
brontosaurusrexsebsebseb: thanks13:11
sebsebsebbrontosaurusrex: np or of course just go there now and try :D13:12
aciculayou'd expect that you logged out kdm is restarted though, yeh13:12
wersi just installed firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa. can't find a way to run it though. any idea? :)13:12
johntrampwhat package does notify-send come from?13:13
llutzwers: alt-f2: firefox-3.613:13
aciculajohntramp: dpkg-query -S notify-send13:13
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wersllutz, that's what i thought too. doesnt work though13:13
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* SirNothus wonders where ikonia went..13:14
johntrampacicula: i dont have it yet13:14
SirNothusShould I have mentioned that was a 3M file?13:14
llutzwers: dpkg -L firefox-3.6.... | grep bin13:14
johntrampi want to know where it is to install it13:14
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wersllutz, not installed according to it. synaptic says otherwise.. hmmm13:15
aciculajohntramp: then you have to use google to dig it up, googling for the term and ubuntu should land you on the right package, alternatively you can just run the command and see if a package is suggested by ubuntu13:15
llutzwers: use the real packagename13:15
llutzwers: dpkg -l firefox*|grep ^ii13:15
setuidsebsebseb, I give up... fscking Microsoft.13:16
wersllutz, looks like it's really firefox-3.6. tried sudo apt-get install too. said it's installed13:16
setuidsebsebseb, Just blogged about it: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-stillpropagating-the-malware-problem13:16
sebsebsebsetuid: well I gave two suggestions for maybe getting  it working, here's another,  got a feeling you won't like it much, but Windows virtual machine13:17
setuider: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-still-propagating-the-malware-problem13:17
Night_Elfhi all. I'm installing 'squeeze' on a USB via debootstrap. When it comes to grub, I get the message "can not find list of partitions".  On /boot/grub/  ( /boot is a different partition, other than / )  there's no menu.lst file. What can I do ?13:17
sebsebsebNight_Elf: #debian13:17
setuidsebsebseb, I run VMware already... just ridiculous that I have to unpack and executable to get to a .wmv file, which is ASF-encoded, which I can't play anyway13:18
Night_Elfsebsebseb: well, grub issues are the same in both, not to say identical.13:18
sebsebsebNight_Elf: maybe so, but your still on Debian so yeah #debian13:18
sebsebsebNight_Elf: however  i'll do this for you, even though you should be getting Debian support in there really13:19
sebsebseb!grub | Night_Elf13:19
ubottuNight_Elf: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.13:19
Night_Elfsebsebseb: I am there. Just noone seems to either know it, either the ones who do are away :/13:19
Night_Elf!grub213:20
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub213:21
Mist_Hi, I am installing ubuntu netbook remix on a Samsung NC10. Isntalling from an USB drive pen. Problem is it is taking tons of time. Editing the partition tables etc. takes 10-15 minutes seraching the partitions beteen editing them. Have I missed specify some boot install option, or is it the USB drive?13:22
Night_Elfsebsebseb: oh well. grub2 doesn't have a menu.lst13:22
sebsebsebNight_Elf: yes that's right13:23
Mist_Each install step is taking 5-10 minutes between them also. (it is 9.10 btw)13:23
sebsebsebNight_Elf: I thought you meant Grub to begin with, but no you wanted Grub 2 factoid anyway uhmm.  it's some other file  you  need to edit, also you can use #grub for support with Grub 213:23
Night_Elfsebsebseb: thanks for the hints. I'm following them to see how these things have changed13:23
Mist_I used the USB startup disk creator in Kubuntu 9.10 (this box) to make the usb install disk btw.13:24
Night_Elfsebsebseb: actually I didn't know about grub and grub2. Only now I became aware13:24
sebsebsebNight_Elf: np even though you shouldn't of really been getting help in here since on Debian :D13:24
Night_Elfsebsebseb: lol. ok I'm shutting up. Yet thanks :)13:25
adamanyone good with power management?13:25
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sebsebsebNight_Elf: well some people might have a little problem with it, anyway have fun with Grub 213:25
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jiraayaIm using ubuntu 9.10 on an intel motherboard. Seems like i have the "black screen of death". I tried the i915.modeset=0 but it did not work. When i boot from my live Cd, there is no such balck screen. is there anything that i can do to make solve it?13:26
adam_need some help with power management13:27
Guest2085First time useing irc!13:27
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JackzorWIn13:27
sebsebseb!hi | Jackzor13:27
ubottuJackzor: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!13:27
perlsyntax_Does anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu 9.10?13:30
leganyone here that wants to help me with oidentd? getting ERROR : NO-USER with about everything I do13:30
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mikii cant get sound thorugh my headphones nor can i speak through my microphone.. is there some sort of sound driver im missing?13:30
jasonmchristos1hi people i just ripped a cd using cdparanoia and now i have a wav file for each sone how do i use the flac command to encode them all instead of typing each filename input13:31
adam_miki, do you hear sound at all?13:31
JackzorWhat is my password exactly?13:32
mikiyes i do. adam_13:32
JackzorTo register or whatever13:32
mikii cant get it externally13:32
mikior use a microphone13:32
sebsebsebJackzor: #freenode for help with that kind of stuff13:32
sebsebseb!register13:32
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode13:32
adam_miki, then its a setting in your sound properties13:32
sutekhello, I search for a program to connect to a dedicated server from OVH. Remotedesktop Client program is not 100% compatible13:32
mikireally?13:32
mikiI'm tryed, not sure what to change though..13:32
adam_miki, are you using gnome or kubuntu?13:33
mikignome13:33
k3rnhi13:33
jasonmchristos1im trying to use flac command from command line to batch encode wavs13:33
jasonmchristos1i understand how to do it one at a time but how do i batch it13:34
adam_miki, right click your speaker, and go into the hardware...13:34
llutzjasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac foo bar; done13:34
riveroesto k es cjoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee13:34
mikiwhich speaker?13:34
adam_miki, make sure that your input is your microphone13:34
adam_miki, the speaker up in the right hand corner of your xsession13:34
mikiyeah theres no hardware tho13:35
adam_miki, sound preferences, input tab13:35
mikiohh prefences?13:35
mikilol sorry.13:35
k3rni installed karmic on usb hard drive. it works on all systems i tested it on. so my goal is to get it to boot on an intel macbook. anyone got his working? i am wresteling with that for days now :/. any help appreciated!13:35
jasonmchristos1llutz: i dont understand13:35
mikiill try them all..13:36
roothi guys13:36
roothow are u13:36
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jasonmchristos1llutz: what is foo bar13:36
Guest90020who is using bt 413:36
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llutzjasonmchristos1: your options13:36
JackzorGah13:37
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JackzorIs my nickname already taken or something?13:37
mikinothing13:37
BenwaHi, i want to re-install ubuntu on my computer but a torrent is still running. How can i keep it for my fresh install. I don't want to download it again, it's a huge file. 87% for the moment.13:37
llutzjasonmchristos1: your wav-filenames will be stored in $i, so "do something" with it13:37
perlsyntaxDoes anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu?13:37
jribBenwa: why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?13:38
perlsyntaxOr what software i need.13:38
adam_miki, does the input say microphone1?13:38
Benwajrib>  because it is unstable right nox, i made too many bad things...13:38
johntramphave any of you used socat before?13:38
Benwa*now13:38
jribBenwa: do you have a separate /home partition?13:38
mikiHDA ATI.. HDA ATI... REALTEK.. etc13:39
Benwathe question is not do i have to re-install ubuntu, but how do i keep this unfinished torrent.13:39
mikithats it?13:39
Benwajrib>  yes13:39
k3rnboot ubuntu from usb on mac -> anyone??13:39
johntrampi have a port set up using socat -u tcp4-listen:6666,fork,bind=127.0.0.1 exec:/home/john/notify-remote.sh13:39
neil_dperlsyntax: I don't know exactly.. but have you tried 'dd' to create a .iso and write that to a CD-R?13:39
iflema Benwa youll need the stub or try to remember the keywords you used to search or what site it came from.... easy enough and move the files13:39
johntramphow do i now send something to that port?13:39
thijsany of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?13:39
llutzjohntramp: cat file| nc host port13:39
jribBenwa: then just reinstall ubuntu and use the same /home partition...13:39
Benwaiflema>  i still have the torrent i downloaded on internet.13:40
johntrampllutz: ok ill try that, thanks13:40
Benwajrib>  no, i want to rebuild my /home13:40
jribBenwa: make sure you don't reformat the /home partition.  Why?13:40
Benwai want a fresh install13:40
adam_miki, i have mine on microphone113:40
jribBenwa: create a new user and copy over the data you want then13:40
mikiok13:40
Benwajrib>  'cause my config files suck13:40
jribBenwa: see my last13:41
perlsyntaxi don't have the wii yet.13:41
iflema Benwa ok too easy.... when your up in new system.... put the 87% done files where the torrent app would downlad and itll pick up where it left off13:41
mikii have an inbulit mic on my notebook13:41
mikihow can i get that to work13:41
Benwaiflema>  i try this, thanks13:41
NiluHi, I upgraded my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. After this, the linux system has become very slow that I cannot happen to work in ubuntu. Can you please tell me what could be the reason?13:41
sebsebsebperlsyntax: As far as I know WII games are never meant to be copied13:42
Jackzorperlsyntax: You have to have a certain dvd drive to rip the games anyways. Do you have the right drive?  You need one of the following LG-8164b LG-8163b LG-8162b LG-8161b13:42
jribBenwa: if all you want to do is reset your user configuration's then you don't need to reinstall at all, just create the new user13:42
JackzorIf I were you I would just toreent the games that you wish to back up.13:43
JackzorIts easier13:43
llutzjasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac <YOUR OPTIONS HERE> "$i" ; done                 got it?13:43
perlsyntaxi do13:43
sebsebseb!piracy |  Jackzor  perlsyntax13:43
ubottuJackzor  perlsyntax: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o13:43
Benwajrib>  yes i do know, but i have thousands of programs i do not need anymore, i just want a fresh install, my ubuntu is SO slow...13:43
jribBenwa: ok13:43
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Benwajrib>  i use this ubuntu for years13:44
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adam_miki, sorrry stepped away13:45
sebsebsebNilu: maybe it's since you need to install a propritary graphics card driver13:45
sebsebsebNilu: however quite a lot of people got issues after upgrading from 9.0413:46
iflemaBenwa when the files are in place you start the torrent again... and itll pickup........13:46
perlsyntaxyou guys don't know much lol.13:46
mikiok...13:46
AndreMorro[BR]113:46
Benwaiflema>  thanks a lot13:46
adam_miki, the built in should work automatically. you may have to adjust the gain.13:46
_nmapHi, i plug my celular phone on usb and the ubuntu dont mount the device for me... How can i do that manually?13:46
mikiive tryed13:47
mikiill try again..13:47
fourshoreevery now and then my computer would automatically scan my cd drive (although it is empty) and cause a lag on my computer. how do i fix this?13:48
Dreamglider_nmap,  can you see the phone with > lsusb ?13:49
_nmapDreamglider, yes.   Bus 003 Device 014: ID 0421:0008 Nokia Mobile Phones13:50
Dreamglider_nmap,  try sudo fdisk -l13:50
thijsany of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?13:51
Nilusebsebseb: Ok. But, it used to work great with 9.04. Is it possible that some service might be causing this because the CPU runs to 100% usage quite often. That's odd and it's a dual core. In 'top', it shows only process that consumes most of the CPU and the root happens to be the owner of that.13:51
chrisdonehow do you disable the horrible "minimize" animation on metacity?13:51
_nmapDreamglider, have here /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 but i think no one is my phone...13:53
_nmapdmesg shows: [10410.128024] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 1513:54
_nmap[10410.352972] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice13:54
syockitoo didn't know there was usb for wine13:55
sebsebsebNilu: stuff like that after 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades for quite a lot of people, things that worked fine in 9.04 not doing so in the upgrade13:55
llutz_nmap: most nokias have a mode switch when connecting to usb (pc-suite, usb-massstorage). checked that?13:55
sebsebsebNilu: probably a good idea to clean install and try 9.10 like that13:55
_nmapllutz, yeap... i choose data transfer mode... Should i try another one?13:56
sebsebsebNilu: plus that way well, Ext4 by default and Grub 2, not really that needed, but anyway13:56
Dreamglider_nmap, it should be on wither Datastorage or ask on conn.13:56
llutz_nmap: if you want to mount it, "usb-storage"13:56
Nilusebsebseb: Ok. Thnaks sebsebseb. :) .13:57
Nilu*Thanks13:57
Dreamglider_nmap, have a look at > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Transfer-Files-To-And-From-Your-Nokia-Phone-63116.shtml13:57
sebsebsebNilu: seperate /homes can make clean installing and even distro hoping easier, and it's easier to one of those up your self when doing an install of Ubuntu13:57
sebsebsebNilu: set one of those up.... above  and  np13:58
_nmapllutz, My phone is in portuguese. When i plug the usb cable i have 4 options. ( Pc Suite, Data Transfer, Image Printing, Media Player)13:58
Nilusebsebseb: Cool. Will try that.13:58
sebsebsebNilu: know how to make one?  and about good partition sizes?13:59
Dreamglider_nmap, try setting it to English language and see what is says13:59
sebsebsebNilu: well if you got say an external hard disk you don't really need one,  since data can just be put on that13:59
hyperstreamanyone here installed backtrack linux 4 along side ubuntu ?13:59
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Nilusebsebseb: Not really. But, I thought I would try to find out myself. But, if you can chip in that would be great. :) .14:00
myk_robinsonbeen having a problem with YouTube and Firefox. Sometimes, when I click a link, I get an error about WATCH or RESULTS bin file or something to that nature, and i have to refresh several times, then it will work. This behaviour is not exhibited in Chrome, every link an every video works fine. This happens on my desktop and laptops. Any ideas?14:00
sebsebsebhyperstream: That's a distro that should not be used as a proper OS!14:00
llutz_nmap: so Data Transfer should be fine14:00
Thoven78Question: I created two shared folders, one on my desktop and the other one in my Laptop. However i can access the shared folder on the desktop from my laptop, but I can't access the shared folder on laptop from the desktop.14:00
sebsebsebNilu: ok  you can first set up in gparted and finnish off in manual install telling to use as /home and Ext4 file system, or you can do in manual install.   10GB or so for / is good,  big seperate home, and a bit of SWAP14:00
sebsebsebNilu: SWAP depends on RAM and if you want to hibernate and such14:01
hyperstreamsebsebseb, thats your opinion. Alot of other would disagree, Is it true it should not be by your opinion or due to fact?, its fine to use as a OS for pentesting.14:01
_nmapIf i remember well ubuntu mount automatically on data transfer mode other time14:01
sebsebsebhyperstream: yeah  security type purpouses,  and really it should only run as a Live CD for it's proper useage14:01
sebsebsebhyperstream: not be used as say an alternative to Windows, that's my point14:01
hyperstreamsebsebseb, right now that we have cleared that up, i wish to join many many others in using it as a pentesting OS. dual boot pref with ubuntu14:02
Nilusebsebseb: Cool. Ya I had something like this for 9.04.14:02
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sebsebsebNilu: well  I assume you used the guided install for 9.04, meaning  your SWAP space should be a good size already14:03
calrikhi all not getting much luck in the vmware channel but hope somewhere here can help me, I just want to know the best practice to run vmware and load up virtual machines without have to use sudo every time?14:03
hyperstreamcalrik, sudo -i14:04
Nilusebsebseb: Ya.14:04
hiexpohas anyone else here had prob's with tucan manager14:04
calrikwhat does that do?14:04
sebsebsebnikolam: how big is your swap and how much RAM by the way?14:04
hyperstreamgives you root terminal/shell14:04
sebsebsebnikolam: wrong one14:04
sebsebsebNilu:  see above14:04
kcghello there, just installed ubuntu on my laptop, thought would say hi here14:05
jribcalrik: you shouldn't need to sudo vmware14:05
jrib!vmware | calrik14:05
ubottucalrik: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware14:05
PsyonaraHi everyone. My Ubuntu installation started doing a weird thing today. When I load some web pages, external files (e.g. CSS, JS, etc) will not load. From what I can see, it's only when those files are from a subdomain. Any ideas? It does this in all browsers, but when I try on Windows, it works fine.14:05
hyperstreamPsyonara, that is very strange.14:05
calrikjrib: I can load up vmware no problem but when I go to load the actually machines say permission denied, running vmware with sudo solves this problem14:05
PsyonaraYeah, dunno what to do...14:06
Milp_mainWhen i do make to compile busybox, where does make create the output?14:06
jribcalrik: check ubottu's link.  Presumably you need to add your user to some group but I don't use vmware14:06
calrikjrib: I have chmod 755 the director the vm are stored in also14:06
PsyonaraExamples are Adobe, Amazon, and IMDB. They all don't load with CSS.14:06
calrikok ta I will have a look14:06
fourshorehow do i eject a cd drive in ubuntu if the cd drive button does not work?14:06
lunixHei people! I have a really strange problem and I hope someone here got a good answer to it.  I use firefox 3.5.7.  Ive got a newly installed Ubuntu 9.10 64bit installation.  quad processor and 4 gigs of ram.   When i go to a semi-heavy website (db.no) and open a few tabs.. 4 or more  firefox stops responding for a while and on system monitor onw or two of the cpu's are 100% while the two others are almost idle.. Flash is installed the ubuntu way an14:06
ikoniamunz: in the source tree14:06
hyperstreamPsyonara, something is blocking them, some software id assume14:07
Thevikinganyone got a eee pc 1005ha? running ubuntu?14:07
forceflowTheviking: me14:07
hyperstreamlunix, try the new google chrome browser (yes for linux) its great!14:07
Nilusebsebseb: RAM : 2 GB, SWAP : 4 GB.14:07
ikonialunix: flash is probably the problem there - flash is closed source and reacts different to different websites14:07
iflemaNilu if ya plan on staying... try 20+ gig for / (root) swap at least more than total physical ram and big /home partition. all these mount points can be moved/increased but best to cover it straight up.14:07
ikoniaMilp_main: in the source tree is where the output is14:07
sebsebsebNilu: good, yep that's  what it should be14:07
Theviking9,10?-- forceflow14:07
Milp_mainsource tree?14:07
Psyonarahyperstream, not sure what it could be, I didn't install anything recently.14:07
hyperstreamlunix, also try other browsers see if the problem is still around14:08
looterHello,  I am having a slight problem with my xorg config.  In an attempt to fix the blank menus in Wine and Open Office in my Ubuntu 8.10 build I followed this tutorial.  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122695    However this morning I woke up and restarted the machine and ubuntu told me it was going to run in low graphics mode.  So i deleted teh lines in my xorg.conf that I had added from that forum post, the14:08
lootern restarted x again but still no luck.  I'm stuck in low graphics mode any suggestions?14:08
FloodBot1looter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:08
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ikoniaMilp_main: yes, where you are typing "make" why are you building busybox - it's in the ubuntu repos14:08
kcgi have a question, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doesn't appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it?14:08
Milp_mainikonia because i am building it for arm14:08
ikoniaMilp_main: you're cross-compiling it ?14:08
Milp_mainikonia yes14:08
ikoniaMilp_main: what cross-compiler are you using ?14:08
sebsebsebNilu: you can keep the SWAP it made for you, when you re install,  just being clear in case you aren't sure.   it's probably also in an extended partition which is fine14:09
DexterLBI installed ubuntu karmic and got the kde packages as I always do14:09
DexterLBstarting any kde app that uses sound (e.g. qt designer, system settings, kttsmgr) outputs this error and crashes: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei14:09
DexterLBsmells like broken packages, what can I do?14:09
FloodBot1DexterLB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:09
Milp_mainikonia: arm-none-linux-gnueabi14:09
DexterLBalso, removing the xine backend causes the same error but for the gstreamer backend14:09
ikoniaMilp_main: so what is your current host system, and whats you're target tripplet ?14:09
Nilusebsebseb: Yes.14:10
lunixhyperstream, ikonia: Thanks for good advice! Ill try that. On the 32 bit installation I had before, this was not a problem.  But ill troulbeshoot it a bit by trying chrome and another flashplayer :)  Thanks a lot!14:10
Milp_mainikonia my host system is a VM runnin debian 5.0.0, and my target system is android14:10
Psyonarahyperstream, thanks anyway, will keep on trying.14:10
ikoniaMilp_main: then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?14:10
Milp_mainikonia i dont know any better support channels :(14:10
ikoniaMilp_main: #debian14:10
calrikjrib: thanks I solved it turned out to be a permissions problem after all, I done chmod 775 but should have done it recursively :)14:10
hyperstreamPsyonara, i couldnt imagen such an issue thats all, sorry mate14:10
jribcalrik: ak, ok14:10
Milp_mainikonia gonna go there, but i thought this was a pretty general linux question so i could aswell ask here14:10
jribcalrik: I guess you created the virtual machines as root then?14:11
Psyonarahyperstream, no worries, thanks. :)14:11
ikoniaMilp_main: this channel is for ubuntu support only14:11
nwillemsHi, I'm looking for some help on configuring X/or which component it is that manages multi screen14:11
hyperstreamPsyonara, to be honest id be doing a fresh install and get on these sites straight away and install stuff one by one till my setup is complete14:11
Milp_mainahh ok, thanks14:11
ikoniano problem14:11
Milp_maingreat, cant go on their channel for some reason14:11
Milp_mainits probably full i guess14:11
hyperstreamregister your nickname?14:11
Psyonarahyperstream, thanks, might just try that...14:11
hyperstreami just joined its not full14:11
DexterLBhmm I'm using the unofficial kde repo14:11
sebsebsebNilu: so just make the two partitions in manual,  i'll repeate.  10GB or so for  /   big seperate home and the Ext4 file system. and that's a good re install14:11
Niluiflema: Ya understood. Will try reinstalling. Thanks anyways. :) .14:12
hyperstreamMilp_main, register your nickname14:12
ikonia!register > Milp_main14:12
ubottuMilp_main, please see my private message14:12
hyperstream!register | Milp_main14:12
ubottuMilp_main: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode14:12
DexterLBhow can I downgrade ALL kde packages to the karmic native ones/14:12
DexterLB-/+?14:12
Milp_mainthanks14:12
AlBundywhat are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?14:12
hyperstreamPsyonara, I had extreme laptop issues with 9.10 only thing that solved it was #ubuntu+1 (Developement next release 10.4 lucid) if you should find yourself banging you head agaisnt the wall14:13
aftertafDexterLB: which source for your KDE?14:13
Nilusebsebseb: Cool. Will do that. Thanks again. Anything else, I should take care of?14:13
myk_robinsonif anyone's able to help with my Firefox/Youtube issue, here's a screen shot of what happens:   http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg14:13
hyperstreamPsyonara, havnt had any issues with it so far14:13
ikoniahyperstream: advising 10.04 is not really acceptable, especially if it's for no specific reason14:13
aftertafDexterLB : try the new 4.4 RC2 packages too14:13
serpicohi14:13
elitedevcan anyone do me a quick favor? just need an ip address for a functioning dns server since my isp's is down. like opendns or something.14:13
Psyonarahyperstream, ok thanks. I'm still on 9.04, cuz I had problems with 9.10. Might have to try 10.04 then. Is yours relatively stable?14:14
ikoniaelitedev: this is not an approprriate channel to ask14:14
hyperstreamikonia, its incase he spends tonight/tommorow with no luck.14:14
ikoniaPsyonara: no it is not stable14:14
ikoniahyperstream: that's no reason to suggest 10.0414:14
DexterLBaftertaf: will they fix my problem?14:14
llutzelitedev: 4.4.4.214:14
hyperstreamPsyonara, havnt had an issue yet mate, and ive slammed it from pentesting to everyday home/office usuage.14:14
sebsebsebNilu: which graphics card you got?   well  just make sure there isn't anything to install in  system > administration > hardware drivers  once on, and if there is well install graphics card driver for example. and get all the security updates of course.  and start installing whatever your going to install etc14:14
aftertafDexterLB: one way to try : i'm on it and have no such issue man14:15
AlBundywhat are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?14:15
myk_robinsonelitedev: you can use OpenDNS  209.67.222.222 and 209.67.220.22014:15
Psyonarahyperstream, Ok, will consider it. I just find it strange that this problem comes up from one day to the next, without any major changes to the system.14:15
hyperstreamikonia, the amount of times its solved issues for people and/or been mentioned as a solution :)14:15
ikoniaPsyonara: I strongly advise you not to upgrade to 10.04 without reason, it may be viewed as stable for someone, but it may not be for you, it is in development and a moving target and can break at any point in the development cycly14:15
erUSULAlBundy: System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers14:15
ikoniahyperstream: no - blindly recommending development releases is not acceptable14:15
AlBundyerUSUL, there is nothing there.14:15
DexterLBaftertaf: give that apt line! :P14:15
PsyonaraIkonia, ok thanks.14:15
elitedevmyk_robinson, llutz: thank you! ikonia: not so much.14:15
sebsebsebNilu: oh and I would put  letters and numbers at least in the account  password,  and at least  8 characters14:16
erUSULAlBundy: then you will have to use the free radeon drivers (probably what you are using already)14:16
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aftertafDexterLB: msged :)14:16
hyperstreamPsyonara, what ikonia said is true, but many people ive solved laptop issues with have agreed, i would suggest not upgrading like ikonia is suggesting but a clean install if you did need to attempt that. install 9.10 and debug first tho :)14:16
ikoniaPsyonara: I would not suggest a clean install14:16
Ven]nubuntu keeps trying to connect to a wlan ive been on before.. but I dont want it to try that one.. how to fix?14:16
iflemahyperstream its an alpha...14:16
Ven]nI get a popup to type in WEP password14:16
ikoniahyperstream: I've just told you blindly recommending 10.04 is not aceptable - please stop14:17
ikoniaPsyonara: I would suggest not using it14:17
Psyonarahyperstream: yeah, I was thinking of trying 9.10, but haven't decided yet.14:17
Psyonaraikonia, not even 9.10?14:17
ikoniaPsyonara: 9.10 would be a more sensible update if you're keen on an update14:17
ikoniaPsyonara: 9.10 is stable14:17
AlBundyerUSUL, and why is that exactly?14:17
Psyonaraikonia, ok, that's what hyperstream then suggested.14:18
erUSULAlBundy: those drivers come preinstalled with the system14:18
myk_robinsonthese messages are going by a bit fast, so at the risk of being called impatient and a spammer, anyone able to help with this:  http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg14:18
ikoniaPsyonara: that's more than a sensible approach14:18
erUSULAlBundy: do « man radeon » in a terminal14:18
ikoniahyperstream: my apologies14:18
hyperstream;/14:18
jason_I need help14:18
hyperstreamjason_, please state the question you have :)14:19
sebsebseb!ask | jason_14:19
ubottujason_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:19
Psyonaraikonia, hyperstream: is an upgrade to 9.10 likely to solve problems, or is a clean install better?14:19
jason_When I run the command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak (or any other reposotory I get the following error14:19
jason_Exception in thread Thread-1:14:19
jason_Traceback (most recent call last):14:19
jason_  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 525, in __bootstrap_inner14:19
jason_    self.run()14:19
jason_  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 60, in run14:19
FloodBot1jason_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:19
jason_    self.add_ppa_signing_key(self.ppa_path)14:19
nwillemsI'm looking for someone who can help me on monitor "detction". My laptop recognises my 19" PC Monitor via VGA and also my Flatscreen TV same port, but the later only on reboot.14:19
hyperstreamPsyonara, i always prefer clean installs, but i cannot say a upgrade wouldnt help14:19
ikoniaPsyonara: an upgrade is acceptable, it may or may not solve the problems you're seeing, look on launchpad.net to see if anyone has been having a simliar problem/bug on 9.1014:20
Psyonarahyperstream, thanks.14:20
kcghi, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doest appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it? Many thanks.14:20
Psyonaraikonia, thanks, I'll check it out.14:20
ikoniaPsyonara: also check launchpad.net for the problem you're having see if anyone's actually logged it for your distro and posted a fix14:20
sebsebsebPsyonara: 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades have gone wrong on quite a few people,  plus not that important, but  those Ext3 9.04 installs won't get converted to Ext4 on upgrade, and no Grub 2 either14:20
myk_robinsonkcg: not a direct fix, but have you tried using Screenlets instead?14:20
ikoniasebsebseb: why does he need grub 2 ?14:20
hyperstreamPsyonara, not a problem14:20
ikoniasebsebseb: why is not having grub 2 a bad thing ?14:21
sebsebsebikonia: exactly, hence my plus not that important14:21
Psyonarasebsebseb, I'm already on Ext414:21
ikoniasebsebseb: so why mention it ?14:21
sebsebsebikonia: ,because it won't happen on upgrade?14:21
ikoniasebsebseb: but you've just said that it's not importat14:21
supernapalmis there ANYONE on here that has knowledge of Usenet? I'm using Alt Binz and Newshosting and at best download speed is only 30kbps when it should be 600kbps. It was fine last night managed to download 12gb but just slowed to almost a halt today...14:21
ikoniasupernapalm: could it be your isp shaping/throttling you ? could it be your usenet servers are currently under load?14:22
ikoniasupernapalm: what usenet client are you using, what ubuntu version ?14:22
jason_I get an error when I run the command  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak [http://paste.ubuntu.com/361269/]14:22
hyperstreamsupernapalm, portforwarding? perhaps assigned a new DHCP ipaddress via your router could have messed with firewall/service configuration with you router? (stab in the dark)14:23
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: I use Sabnzbd without issue. Like ikonia said, cound be your ISP throttling you, particularly if you downloaded 12GB in one night. That would be a red flag for some ISPs14:23
witoldhi14:23
viktorfulopHey! This is my first time here... This is some kind of help channel, right? So can I ask a question?14:23
hyperstreamjason_, whats the error, can you paste it @ pastebin.com please (the error)14:23
sebsebsebviktorfulop: of course, just ask14:23
kcgmyk_robinson: another widget engine?14:23
supernapalmthing is I've downloaded well over 12gb in one night before via torrents and never had a problem14:23
ikoniasupernapalm: worth checking with your isp - and your usenet servers14:24
ikoniasupernapalm: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue though14:24
jason_I did the "Exeption in line..." is the error14:24
supernapalmyeh well I sent an email to Newshosting support but they havern't got back to me14:24
myk_robinsonkcg: yes, but with much better widgets. You have to consider that each widget may have its own bugs. Do you get the same results with every weather plugin you try, or just one in particular?14:24
syockitwhat's the safest way to restart compiz?14:25
kcgyup, every plugin14:25
ikoniasupernapalm: give them time, either way doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue14:25
hyperstreamjason_, so sorry, im blind :(14:25
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: for me, I have to throttle down my newsgroup downloads, otherwise it takes everything available on my network. Have you accidentally made a change in your app, are you perhaps throttling yourself? Do you get the same slow results when direct downloaing something from a website? I guess what I'm trying to ask is if the slow speeds are isloated to newgroup downloads14:26
viktorfulopCool. So here's the thing: I have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?14:26
supernapalmyeh, downloading from browser is NO problem at all youtube is fine14:27
supernapalmit's only with Usenet14:27
kcgmyk_robinson: I am going to try out screenlets first and see how it goes. Many thanks.14:28
ikoniasupernapalm: therefore it's either your isp or your usenet server, not an ubuntu issue14:28
myk_robinsonkcg: no prob, glad to be able to help. Hope it works for you14:28
bobbydhi14:28
supernapalmby process of elimination it's a server problem for sure because my ISP throttles traffic but only between 5pm and 11pm when I'm not usually on anyway14:29
serpicohi14:29
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: only other thing I can think is trying a different app for downloading and see if you can duplicate the problem14:29
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: http://sabnzbd.org/14:29
himawijayates14:30
myk_robinsonI know i'm flooding again, but have any of you seen this error before in Firefox/Youtube    http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg14:30
ikoniasupernapalm: ok - so nothing we can do to help you with that problem14:30
bobbydOn Ubuntu 9.04 The hardware volume buttons on my laptop no longer control the master volume, but are somehow mapping to the "capture" pulseaudio master volume. How can I fix this?14:31
supernapalmwell thanks for the suggestions anyway14:31
shane2peruIs there a simple way to import a m3u or pls playlist into rhythmbox?14:31
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: what service are you using? Astraweb has been great for me14:31
supernapalmas in premium server? I'm signed up to Newshosting14:32
shane2peruahh, got it, it is load file. :)14:32
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: just checking their site to see if they have a "Server Status" or something, perhaps it is a server problem. At any rate, I'm curious14:33
supernapalmnot on their homepage14:34
AlBundymy karmic doesnt recognize my external monitor, what can I do?14:34
supernapalmthey're supposed to be one of the top dogs so to speak and prices were good14:34
johntrampis there a file similar to .xinitrc where i can run commands when i start gnome14:34
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: they have a few different servers listed, have you tried using a different one?14:34
Ven]nwhere do I manage the wireless networks in ubuntu?=14:35
sporedihow do i register with my nick name sorry forget did login long time back since create14:35
Ven]nfound it14:35
llutz!register | sporedi14:35
ubottusporedi: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode14:35
sporediok14:35
sporedithank you !14:35
supernapalmI can only use the server my account is on i think14:35
supernapalmi'm not sure14:35
myk_robinsonas long as you have a valid account, you should be able to use any server you choose. At least thats how it is with Astraweb. I alsways use the SSL encrypted server. Would only take you a few seconds to try a different one, either it will work or it wont14:36
bobbydaha! I fixed it: system->sound, choose the correct track to control at the bottom of the dialog :).14:37
ScoobyDooI Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.14:37
viktorfulopsooo... can you help me on that previous problem i mentioned? just to know whether i should wait or not...14:37
myk_robinsonsupernapalm: you may be right, though. Looks like their server configuration is specific to account type14:37
gotsanityis there any way to share my banshee database with other machines on my local network? (im looking to share ratings mainly)14:38
nwillemsHey. I'm having some problem with multi monitor in ubuntu 9.10. I have a flatscreen and a monitor, my flatscreen won't show up after I have had the monitor plugged in. Is this anything common?14:38
ikoniasupernapalm: can you please stop discussing this in this channel. it's not an ubuntu issue14:38
coz_nwillems,  which video card are you using14:38
g-meHey All.. Can Anyone recommend a local personal fincance program at all? Open to suggestions but naturally would like a pssword / lock on the program also. Cheers14:38
ScoobyDooI Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.14:39
hyperstreamg-me, gnucash14:39
myk_robinsong-me: kMyMoney is excellent, even in Gnome14:39
nwillemsjust a sec will look it up, I have a Lenovo S10e netbook.14:39
g-mehyperstream: does that support a password at startup?14:39
coz_nwillems,    lspci | grep -i vga14:39
hyperstreamg-me, not sure mate14:39
g-memyk_robinson: will give that a look cheers.14:39
g-mehyperstream: I will dig around and have a look. Thanks14:39
nwillemscoz_, It's an intel14:40
llutzg-me: hibiscus14:40
myk_robinsong-me: its in the repositories, but here's some information for you  http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html14:40
coz_nwillems,  ok now in terminal    _sudo glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE14:40
nwillems_sudo ??14:40
ScoobyDooI Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I boot into Xubuntu and have the second drive plugged in?14:40
coz_nwillems,  you can try it without sudo if you like14:41
sporedii am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz14:41
mediaprodigyHello everyone14:41
nwillemsMy question was more about the underscore?14:41
coz_nwillems,  are you running the system as root?14:41
g-memyk_robinson: yeah that looks what I am after. Will check that out thanks.14:41
coz_nwillems,  oh maybe i have the wrong person let me check14:41
nwillems204814:41
nwillemscoz_, its 204814:42
coz_nwillems,  ok that means that dual monitors CANNOT exceed that resolution in any one direction14:42
coz_nwillems,  that is hardware based by the way and not changeagle at least as far as I know14:42
myk_robinsong-me: yeah, its about as close to Quicken as one can get in Linux. I actually like it better14:42
coz_nwillems,  so the combined monitors cannot exceed that 204814:43
ScoobyDooI Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I Do that as well as have the new drive plugged in?14:43
nwillemscoz_, is it on a per monitor basis or "total" display?14:43
hyperstreamScoobyDoo, try #xubuntu14:43
g-mesince I got a good response to the last question... Is there any FOSS ssl VPN software about anyone can recommend14:43
coz_nwillems,  total14:43
ScoobyDooAh ok thanks14:43
llutzg-me: openvpn?14:43
g-memyk_robinson: its all you fault then if I go bankrupt ! :)14:43
nwillemscoz_, Okay, that solves one problem about My HD TV not being able to go 1080p. But to the main point.14:43
myk_robinsong-me: glad to be of service :)14:43
nwillemscoz_, My flatscreen TV dosen14:44
RobotCowhow can i check how many man pages there are for a command?14:44
g-mellutz: is openvpn still supported? I thought support had ceased.. However if it works and is secure I will give it a go14:44
coz_nwillems,  again it is most likely related to the MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE  however  I cant be sure because I have never tested it with flatscreen TV14:44
llutzRobotCow: man -k14:44
coz_nwillems,  in order to get around that you would need a different video card14:44
RobotCowllutz, thanks14:45
nwillemscoz_, My flatscreen TV dosen't "identify" after I have had my monitor attached to my laptop?14:45
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noise_hi i want to start learning c++,but i dont know what kind of tools should i use14:45
noise_maby emacs,or vi14:45
coz_nwillems,   mm   I am not sure what that issue would be then   but it recogizes it if the monitor had not been attached?14:45
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jeffmrnoise_, or pico or a graphical text editor14:46
coz_noise gedit should work14:46
nwillemsit just sees it as the old one, dosen't detect the new monitors sizes. The one is 4:3 -monitor and the flatscreen is 16:914:46
noise_what is pico?14:46
g-menoise: this may be blasphemous: Notepad++ with Wine14:47
jeffmrnoise_, its a simple terminal text editor14:47
noise_cute14:47
jeffmrnoise_, simpler than emacs and vi14:47
coz_nwillems,  mmm ok  then I am at a loss here and any info I could give you right now would be a guess... i am betting there is someone with a bit more experience with these matters   if not...you could try  ##linux channel14:47
sporedii am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz14:47
Ricky_dsgsg14:48
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nwillemscoz_, well thanks for the help, can you maybee give a guess on which component it is located?14:48
noise_how can i clik in pico expl. ^R ??14:48
coz_nwillems,  which component?  I am not sure what you mean14:49
jeffmrnoise_, I don't think you can.  I think you would have to use a graphical editor or something else14:49
jeffmrit has a go to line command and the commands are listed at the bottom of the screen14:49
nwillemscoz_, like in what piece of software? Like X or driver or something in between, maybee Gnome.14:50
myk_robinsonnoise_: I would recommend using gedit. It has a GUI, which may be helpful, plus it has language markup to help with highlighting and format for C++14:50
coz_nwillems,  oh well... it is going to be mostly the video card/driver14:51
noise_ok thanks14:51
myk_robinsonnoise_: perhaps this will help:   http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/06/using-gedit-as-ide-python-cc-or-any.html14:51
nwillemscoz_, Thanks a lot, you really helped me there. have a great day14:51
Guest19797hi i restored a partimage-backup to a partition but cannot open the encrypted home folder (running system with already the home folder mounted) what to do?14:51
coz_nwillems,  but again ...you want to check with someone with more experience in this14:52
coz_nwillems,  that's why i suggested  the ##linux channel :)14:52
nwillemscoz_, I will see if there's someone in there or maybee if there's an intel-graphics channel14:52
coz_nwillems,  I hope this pans out for you.... video issues are a pain in the butt :)14:52
nwillemscoz_, Yeah, sadly the manufactures like haven't opened their eyes to this community14:53
coz_nwillems,  well  intel...nvidia to a point...and now ati have been there....ati is now open source14:54
coz_nwillems,  laptops arent always equipped with high end video  so  that could be the issue14:54
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Guest19797i have troubles mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please14:55
tentaclemooseanyone have any trouble with 9.10 and netbook remix?14:56
nwillemscoz_, but then again laptops are being sold more often than "normal" PC's14:56
tentaclemoosespecifically, with the main menu being too large for the screen?14:56
myk_robinsonfigured out my Firefox/Youtube problem. Looks like the Download Helper plugin was causing occasional trouble. Disabled it and have had no issues14:56
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coz_nwillems,   perhaps... you might have to special order a higher end video chip in the laptop...but   I dont use laptops at all so I am certainly not the last work on the topic  :)14:57
viktorfulopI have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?14:57
mazda01can anyone please tell me how to do a search from command line to find a trash icon in ubuntu. i would think it would have "trash" and either "svg" or "png" in it. I tried sudo find /usr/ -name "trash*png" but that didn't work. any thoughts?14:57
YezYezI have installed ubuntu 9.10. I cannot boot my previously installed Windows7. I get 'BOOTMGR is missing' when trying to boot windows7. What should I do?14:58
Guest19797i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please14:58
nwillemscoz_, he he. Statistics says so14:58
YezYezmazda01, try "trash*ico" ?14:59
erUSUL!ecryptfs14:59
YezYezAnyone in here ran windows7 before installing ubuntu?15:00
coz_YezYez,  yes I just did a clients system that had windows 7 on it15:00
sanguisdexI need to get my hands on the live image for intrepid ibex any one know where I can get that?15:00
jiohdianyway to run tomtom software in ubuntu?15:01
YezYezcoz_, Can you tell me what you did in order for GRUB to make windows7 boot? I get 'bootmgr is missing' when booting W715:01
coz_sanguisdex,    http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/15:01
brendan`jiohdi, with wine?15:01
jiohdibrendan, wine lets a zip file down load... which vanishes ... and then nothing happens15:02
coz_YezYez,   mm   I removed windows 7 for this client  ... I have not done a dual boot with windows7  and ubuntu yet  but let me check15:02
YezYezcoz_, its weird...normally w7 has 2 partitions I think15:02
YezYezbut it seems like I only have 115:02
jeffmrYezYez, I think you have to boot with the Windows 7 cd and repair the installation15:02
YezYez:s15:03
sanguisdexunless of course the opensource ati driver is now supporting opengl for mobility-radion cards15:03
jeffmrI had to do that but it was on a mac15:03
YezYezjeffmr, the cd said it cannot be repaired15:03
coz_YezYez,  see if any of this is familiar   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103599915:03
nikhilunable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help15:03
nikhilunable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.15:04
YezYezlet me check, coz_15:04
coz_YezYez,  also check here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot15:04
nikhilunable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.15:06
mazda01YezYez, that didn't find anything. I am using cairo-dock from ppa weekly. i am missing alamixer icon, trash icon, and clock icon for some reaason.15:06
Guest19797i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please15:06
coz_YezYez,  here is a graphical tutorial on this    http://netcashingin.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu.html15:06
myk_robinsonnikhil: not sure, HPLIP is showing to have supported that printer since Ubuntu 5.04 you connected by USB?15:06
Mist_On a typical ubuntu installation, how should I divide the partitions for like  /boot /  /home /swap and so on?15:07
Mist_What is recomended I mean..15:07
nikhilmyk_robinson: yes, connected thru usb15:07
sanguisdexis there a way to install a an image to a live CD and test ati drivers?15:07
Mist_On typical user desktop system Iso far had like 100 MB or so for /boot15:08
Mist_5 GB for /15:08
coz_Misery,   take a look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition15:08
myk_robinsonMist_: I typically do a 30-40GB / partition, a 2GB swap, and the largest portion for a /home partition. I like a separate /home partition because I prefer a clean install to an upgrade, and this ensures I keep my stuff15:08
nikhilmyk_robinson: saw the help site. it says it requires downloadable driver plug in. ???15:08
ubuntu_chile_tcoExiste alguien que hable español ??15:08
myk_robinsonnikhil: you should have everything you need in the repositories, I believe. Lemme double check15:08
YezYezty coz_15:08
YezYezbut it seems like i have far greater problems15:09
YezYez:s15:09
coz_oo15:09
YezYezi destroyed the win7 boot partition i guess15:09
nikhilmyk_robinson: like what from repos? pls help15:09
YezYezso now there is no possible way to boot15:09
Mist_myk_robinson: Yeah that is why I also split /home from the rest :)  5GB will be enough for the rest other than /boot  and /home u think?15:09
YezYez>:[15:09
PindamanHola15:10
coz_YezYez,  mm   I wish I could help more here ..unfortunately I have to break...I have several clients this morning :(  be back later though...but I know there are very qualified people on this channel that can help15:10
YezYeznp, ty for your help coz_...take care mate :)15:10
Mist_Another reason is how reading is handled in GNU/Linux of disk.. old trick to speed up old drives for servers is to have the most used partitions as close to the parking of the spindles..15:10
myk_robinsonMist_: I wouldnt bother with a /boot partition  I just allow GRUB to be installed to MBR anyway.  I would recommend at least 10GB for / just because it contains the whole OS, including apps you install to standard location. You wanna allow a little wiggle room15:11
mike5hi all. Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?15:11
Mist_Thus.. swap should have the average shortest time over the platters along with most information intense area ;P15:11
myk_robinsonMist_: what size hard drive?15:11
mediaprodigywhat's up everyone15:11
YezYezmazda01, this should give you some clues to where icons are located: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/ubuntu-customization-guide-v2/15:11
mike5that is, my access-point is just fine, I just cant connect from ubuntu.15:12
myk_robinsonnikhil: did you download the driver or install it from Synaptic?15:12
beeman_nlhmm15:12
beeman_nlmy mouse suddely stops responding in my Karmic box15:13
nikhilmyk_robinson: installed thru synaptic15:13
Mist_myk_robinson: 320 GB - around 30 GB of the initial WinXP installation on a Samsung NC10 ^^ I have been doing gnu/linux since 1993 but havent kept up with the recent 5 years exploding development so unsure of disk spaces for mostly /boot and kernel dynamics :)15:13
beeman_nli have two mice, the both stop after some time (not at the same time though)15:13
beeman_nlis there any way to reset the mice or something?15:13
iBUntuSsalam sumer15:14
myk_robinsonnikhil: can you tell what version of hplip is installed?15:14
Mist_myk_robinson: that and a bit of.. ahum.. sort of perfectionst personality distorder :D lol lol15:14
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Mist_errr disorder :)15:14
nikhilmyk_robinson: HPLIP 2.8.715:14
myk_robinsonMist_: I would stick with just a swap, /, and /home    Should be fine15:14
nikhilmyk_robinson: Device manager software version: 1415:15
myk_robinsonnikhil: not sure, everything says it should just work. Take a look at this:  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html15:16
Mist_myk_robinson: probably :) I should install another gig ram into this one and virtualbox my insane scientist laboratory experiments with distros anyway on the side ^^15:16
mike5Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?15:16
myk_robinsonMist_: yeah, VirtualBox is a lot more enjoyable with RAM15:16
myk_robinsonmike5: whats problem are you ahving?15:16
Mist_myk_robinson: yeah.. so the wize men say (and girls)15:16
mike5well... can't connect :)15:17
mike5nothing happens15:17
myk_robinsonmike5: if you disable the encryption can you connect?15:17
Guest19797i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please15:18
mike5I thought I will not have to fiddle with my router to do this...15:18
mazda01i've set the empty and full icons for cairo-dock trash applet but it still wont show up. whats going on?15:18
mike5is there anything I can try on ubuntu before I do that?15:18
beeman_nldammit this sucks :(15:18
beeman_nlneed to reboot to get the mouse back15:18
myk_robinsonmike5: its best to start with the simplest thing. We need to determine if your wifi card is working at all, and this is the easiest way to test that15:19
nikhilmyk_robinson: is it better to download from site instead of synaptic?15:19
myk_robinsonnikhil: from the site will give you the latest version and help ensure that it is not just an issue of the older driver having a bug of some sort15:19
mike5hmmm. What happens if I disable encryption while I'm connected?15:19
mike5that is, I'm talking through this connection right now from my windows machine15:20
myk_robinsonmike5: if it is wireless ,you will lose your connection15:20
nikhilmyk_robinson: i hope so. btw thx so much15:20
myk_robinsonmike5: you dont get an error or any complaint about incorrect password?15:20
mike5where do I look for that?15:20
myk_robinsonmike5: what version of Ubuntu and what model wireless card, or laptop, or whatever15:20
mike5ok, its 9.10 from yesterday15:21
mike564bit15:21
mike5and the card is .... intel 5100 something...15:21
myk_robinsonmike5: are you able to connect it by ethernet cable and run all updates?15:21
nastasmike5: ubuntu machine is it finding your wireless network?15:21
mike5let me check...15:21
mike5hmmm, let me find some network cable...15:22
nikhilmyk_robinson: in the Hplip toolbox, there is an option which says "Install required plugin". when i click on it, nothing happens.  maybe if that is done, problem will be solved?15:22
myk_robinsonnikhil: that's the part i dont understand, I dont think the plugin is required. But the newer driver is leaps ahead of the one you are using15:23
jaypurdoes any1 know some soft. like m$ sam?? for linux? i'd like to make some robot speaking...15:23
mike5I'll be back...15:23
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emperrorranyone can tell me..? what is ubufox exactly?15:24
nikhilmyk_robinson: maybe i will just uninstall and reinstall hplip from the site.15:24
myk_robinsonjaypur: try Festival, should be in the repository15:25
jaypurmyk_robinson, k brb15:25
oCean_!info ubufox | emperrorr15:25
ubottuemperrorr: ubufox (source: ubufox): Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration defaults and apt support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 55 kB, installed size 328 kB15:25
emperrorrthx15:27
JovarasMy hard drive has got many bad sectors, and when I try to install ubuntu it performs check on bad sectors and it keeps going forever. I think it's "badblocks -v /dev/hdx ". Is there any way to skip this check before installing?15:28
jeerumhi15:28
jophhi15:28
jeerumwhy is soo hard to get streaming to server?15:28
jeerumin ubuntu?15:29
jeerumnow i have tryd over 2 days15:29
Dubaihello15:29
jophmany things are hard to achieve in linux15:30
jeerum:D15:30
jeerumbut is there any solution?15:31
jophi don't know sorry :) i'm very new to it and have questions, too :]15:31
viktorfulopgee, thanks for not helping me but helping everyone else...15:32
jopheveryone else lol15:32
jophdid you try vlc player, jeerum?15:32
jophi used vlc player in windows and streaming wasn't that hard15:33
jeerumtoyou can stream to shoutcast serverfr15:34
jeerum?15:35
jophis there anyone, who got cs (steam) working on an ati radeon hd 4850 with -nearly good- performance?15:35
myk_robinsonjaypur: figure it out?15:35
jaypurmyk_robinson, installing X)15:35
jophi don't know jeerum, but i don't think so15:35
stanman246_hi anyone knows a way to split avi files into clips?15:35
myk_robinsonjaypur: the syntax once you run Festival is       (SayText "place text to be spoken inside double quotes")    This all must be enclosed in parethesis15:36
jophdo you try streaming to shoutcast with winamp, jeerum?15:36
myk_robinsonjaypur: it can also read a file15:36
_raveni have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please15:36
myk_robinsonjaypur: once you run festival from the console, type help for more syntax/commands15:36
jaypurmyk_robinson, it runs at terminal?15:36
myk_robinsonjaypur: yes15:36
jaypurhow can i record ???15:36
myk_robinsonjaypur: that, i'm not sure. Perhaps i didnt understand your application15:37
beeman_nlhmm i just filed this bug against my mouse problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/51159015:37
myk_robinsonjaypur: sorry, I have to go out on a service call. Hopefully someone else can pickup where we left off and help you out15:37
beeman_nlif anyone has some idea's i'd be happy to test them :)15:38
jaypurmyk_robinson, hmmm i think i'll look about this, i'd like to make a robot talking for a readio... i'll check this later thanks a lot friend15:38
Lizakp15:38
jophjeerum: i think there should be a list of supported applications on the shoutcast homepage, most apps need a plugin to stream15:39
g0thHi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password."15:39
jeerumjoph i have looked15:39
g0thany idea how to fix this?15:40
jeerumbut nothing understand15:40
jeerumthere is some apps that runs on terminal15:40
jeerumi need some with gui15:40
jophdo you want the listeners to connect to YOUR ip address or to another ip address?15:42
jeerumto another ip15:42
jeerumi have vps15:42
jophah okay15:42
jophvps?15:42
jeerumvirtual private server15:42
g0thHi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password." Any idea how to fix this?15:42
jophand that server has got a shoutcast app running? or is it the server you want to configure?15:43
g0thanyone?15:44
jophg0th, did you type in your password? :)15:44
mike5ok. 199 updates installed15:45
g0thjoph: I did for thunderbird 3.015:45
jophthe information you are giving is a little poor15:45
mike5let me  see if wireless works now15:45
g0thjoph: then I simply removed tb 3.0 and installed tb 3.115:45
llutzg0th: it's beta, so ask devs, write bugreport15:45
g0thwhat other information do you need?15:45
jophmaybe llutz is more into this15:46
g0thllutz: I think it is a very common problem (from my google search)15:46
jeerumjph Server is running http://puurmani.com:800015:46
llutzjoph: nope15:46
jophand you tried to reconfigure tb?15:46
g0thI didn't find anything that solves the issue though15:46
g0thhow?15:46
g0thI mean reconfigure what/how?15:47
jophnormal gui settings15:47
g0thin the preferences it doesnt list any saved passwords15:47
g0thhmm15:47
mtaftmhello everyone, got my cam sorted, its a bit dark how would i go about sorting the quality out?15:48
jophthat's what i'm talking bout :)15:48
gujaHello all. Anyone managed to install and run Visual Studio 2008 in Ubuntu without using Virtual Machine or making Win-Ubuntu dual boot?15:48
jophjeerum: i'll try to connect as listener to test15:48
g0thjoph: what do you mean?15:48
stanman246what software should i use for 'clipping' up one big avi?15:49
mtaftmguja: you tried wine mate?15:49
g0thjoph: what do I need to do?15:49
g0thstanman246: clipping up how?15:49
xxthinkAre there some thread profile tool under linux?15:49
jophif there ain't no saved passwords listed maybe they're lost and you need to re-save em?15:49
g0thhow?15:49
gujamtaftm, wine can't handle VS2008.15:49
jeerumjoph its working on server15:49
mtaftmoh right sorry15:49
jophby typing 'em in whereever you did that before15:50
jeerumnow its another streamer, but i want do it my self15:50
stanman246g0th: i'd like to make seperate clips out of one avi, would be nice if the clips are the scene changes15:50
jophah i c jee15:50
mike5so, where do I check for my wireless errors?15:51
shadow120anyone know of a GUI for john the ripper?15:51
mike5also, where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?15:52
g0thstanman246: hmm, so something like clipping in the time direction? sorry at first though I don't know15:52
jophjeerum: did you search synaptic for "shoutcast"?15:52
perlsyntaxHow can i do this in linux see how fast my cpu are?15:52
g0thjoph: where can I type the passwords?15:52
perlsyntaxis there away15:52
jeerumjoph no15:52
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jeerumwhat it is?15:53
jophg0th: you said you were using the previous version of tb, didn't you type in any passwords before?15:53
g0thjoph: yes in the previous version15:54
xxthinkAre there some thread profile tool under linux?15:54
perlsyntaxHow can i check my cpu speed in ubuntu?15:54
g0thjoph: and after having typed them in I can't type them in anymore15:54
mike5where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?15:54
jophjeerum: you want to stream to a shoutcast server, don't you? so you can search synaptic for "shoutcast" to find plugins or stand-alone-apps to do this15:54
g0thjoph: since the "master password service"/whatever  is dealing with it15:54
LjLperlsyntax: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give you the mhz and the bogomips15:54
perlsyntaxthanks15:55
jophg0th: ok i think you have to remove it completely15:55
oCean_mike5: read up on grub2 config here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119527515:55
g0thjoph: remove what?15:55
arandmike5:  using grub or grub2? (if fresh-install of 9.10, -> grub2)15:55
mike5tnx15:55
jeerumok now i understand, i have searched in synaptic manager15:55
jeerumand in google15:55
jeerumthere is some, but not working on me15:56
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g0thjoph?15:56
KayLiibjr15:56
g0th...15:56
g0thhmpf15:57
g0thI will downgrade to tb 3.0 then15:57
ayazhi15:58
g0thit can't be that the basic mail functionality doesnt work :-(15:58
_raveni have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please15:58
llutzg0th: tb lacks basic functions since ever15:58
jophg0th: remove tb15:58
the_real_dave!hi | ayaz15:58
ubottuayaz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!15:58
Jef91Ok - I'm feeling beyond stupid right now15:58
Jef91How on earth do I install a custom font in Ubunut?15:58
Jef91Ubuntu*15:58
oCean_Jef91: basics are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts15:59
the_real_daveJef91: Try copying it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ?15:59
jophjeerum: try using xmms2 + xmm2-plugin-icymetaint <- maybe that helps15:59
mike5tnx. I'll be back to troubleshoot wireless later.15:59
jeerumsthanks i will15:59
jophxmm2 = xmms2 :D15:59
mikebeechamkostkon: thanks mate...I added the ppa, removed wine and re-installed.  All is good now mate.16:00
Jef91oCean_ / the_real_dave - will I need to restart my application for it to see the fonts after I move my fonts there?16:01
Jef91nvm - I do not16:01
jophg0th: hope that works, if it doesn't you need to completely remove tb (incl. folder[s]) and reinstall it so that you're beginning from zero16:01
the_real_daveJef91: probably, though I'm not sure. I know if I change font in Conky I have to start it again so maybe16:02
z3rongod_First of all pardon my ignorance and even maybe for the offtopic, but I don't know where else to ask and I'm sure there might be someone to answer this issue. I am currently running a game server, and 50 fake game servers. The reason for the fake game servers is because the master server list on which clients connect are filled with fake servers. I am trying to figure out how to use less resources for the fake servers. They are currently being run on wi16:03
llutz!ot | z3rongod_ you are right, it's off-topic here16:05
ubottuz3rongod_ you are right, it's off-topic here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:05
g0thjoph: that's not an option16:05
g0thjoph: I have like 100 folders with over 50'000 sorted mails/etc and several hundred rules16:05
jophg0th: ah because you need the received mails huh?16:05
jophuh ye16:06
g0thso I won't retype everything, sorry16:06
g0thnot an option16:06
llutzg0th: get it back from backup later16:06
g0thI want to keep the account settings, folder settings, filter settings, etc16:06
g0thand of course where the messages are stored16:07
g0ththose are all things that take a _very_ long time to "redo"16:07
jophis it already stable?16:07
llutzg0th: why dou you use alpha/beta-software then?16:07
jophthat'd have been my next question :D16:07
g0thllutz: my current solution is indeed to downgrade to tb 3.016:07
llutzg0th: hopefully your profile still works16:08
g0thyes I hope16:08
g0thI am a bit angry at the tb devs16:08
Ranakahhi everybody.. what packet i need to install for "ip" command?16:08
jophelse you know next time not to use them :)16:08
g0ththe main thing should be that basic functionality keeps working16:08
llutzg0th you are the only one to be angry at16:08
g0thno matter if it is beta or alpha or stable16:08
om26erg0th, do you pay them?16:09
jophhow did you upgrade?16:09
llutzepic fail16:09
g0thom26er: of course not, lol16:09
g0thpay for failure?16:09
g0th^^16:09
militantcan i install 9.10 remotely?  like if i have a box i wanna stick under my desk headless, can i start an ubuntu install from a usb stick and telnet/ssh in to actually run it?16:09
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oCean_Ranakah: package iproute16:10
RanakahoCean_ tnx :)16:10
militantto do the install that is.  kuz i don't wanna have to hook up the other monitor just for a 30 minute install16:10
llutzg0th: you sound like: whaaa, mama, they broke my toy....    so go to #thunderbird and whine there.16:10
gui7anyone know if there are any advantadges on using unetbootin to "burn" an ubuntu iso to disk as opposed to just using dd?16:10
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jophi prefer to wine :D16:10
g0thllutz: no, I simply sound angry16:10
oCean_Ranakah: tip: at packages.ubuntu.com you can search on package name and package content.16:11
om26ergui7, its easy16:11
g0thllutz: this is already the third time a tb upgrade caused problems16:11
om26ergui7, it installs the boot loader16:11
llutzg0th: tb is crap, was crap, will ever be crap, so use something working next16:11
g0thanyway I already talked to the guys in thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org16:11
g0ththanks for your help16:11
g0thbye16:11
llutzg0th: but we're off-topic here, so16:11
gui7om26er, i meant to burn the .iso to a flash/USB drive - wouldn't it be exactly the same thing as if i just used dd?16:11
om26ergui7, no, it won't boot16:12
robbwould removing xserver-xorg-* packages and then reinstalling them reload the ubuntu-provided drivers for video cards?16:12
om26ergui7, either use unetbootin or ubuntu's own usb-creator-gtk16:12
gui7om26er, ah ok. do you know why?16:12
jophdoes anyone know what i gotta do to play counter-strike the way it should be with an ati radeon hd 4850? (but on linux)16:13
om26ergui7, dd just copies the contents and does not install the bootloader on the usb to boot16:13
robb!binarydrivers | joph16:13
ubottujoph: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:13
Xbertjoph, you need to run it thru wine16:13
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jophXbert: i have wine installed, 3d accel is working, prop driver installed (catalyst 9.12)16:14
jophXbert: wine ver. 1.1.3616:14
militantdoes anyone know if telnetd or sshd is running during an install16:15
jophsteam is installed, sound driver is set to alsa, sound simulated at 44k ( tried 22k too)16:15
jophtried pixel shader on/off16:15
llutzmilitant: very unlikely16:16
militantllutz, i wouldn't think so either.  just looking for ways to do an install without dragging a monitor in here16:16
jeffmranyone want to help me test sharing my itunes library remotely?16:17
llutzmilitant: debootstrap16:17
militantoh?  ok.  checking into that.16:17
mynameisdeletedI'm using 9.10 and had an upgrade where it wrote /boot/grub/menu.lst to a bad part of drive outside the bioses reach16:17
mynameisdeletedits easy enough to fix by deleting and recreating the file after you enter grub commands manually16:18
jeffmrit can be done using a program called simplifymedia16:18
emperorhaha16:18
mynameisdeletedbut I'm curious why that generally happens16:18
mynameisdeletedon kernel upgrades sometimes16:18
emperorik ben thom16:18
mynameisdeletedmost noobs will give linux up if they see broken grub config file16:18
emperorkut16:18
MidasManchuHey mates, anyone know why Firefox is sluggish on 64-bit nix ubuntu during the connecting, handshaking, and retrieval phases?  This is a non-problem in opera, which makes me wonder about Firefox's networking code16:18
Xbertjoph, try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30452816:18
emperorkan het ook in nederlands16:19
om26erMidasManchu, try chromium16:19
ChogyDanmynameisdeleted: have you tried grub2?16:19
militantllutz, not seeing how debootstrap does this?  still looking thru it though16:19
chistesxanyone know software to ping automatic ubuntu16:20
om26er!nl | emperor16:20
ubottuemperor: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl16:20
MidasManchuom26er, no can do; I have too many tools on firefox that don't port over16:20
llutzmilitant: needs a running system on the machine you want install to. ssh to it, mount target-partition and debootstrap then16:20
emperorhe16:21
sandro_ciao16:21
emperorik16:21
emperorheet16:21
emperorgeen16:21
emperordude16:21
FloodBot4emperor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:21
militanthmmmm well there is an option, yes.  there's an existing ubuntu install on the box, i could do that16:21
jophrobb: i'm so happy to have my system up and running with 3d accel. do you know that i won't shoot it down with that binary drivers?16:21
robbhehe16:21
robbyou wouldn't believe what i've been thru with video drivers...16:21
_raveni have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please16:21
arandmynameisdeleted: if it is a "well defined" and clear issue reporting a bug about it might be a good idea, if there aren't already one.16:21
jophso you're using an ati too, huh? ;)16:22
mynameisdeletedI think grub2 can possibly break... the issue is it shoudl test a config file before upgrading a config file16:22
mynameisdeletedand if it doesnt work revert16:22
mynameisdeletedgrub config can be tested without a reboot16:22
mynameisdeletedand woudl have caught this16:22
emperoremail is verbeek.thom@gmail.com mail mme16:22
mynameisdeletedby running grub as a process during runtime16:22
om26er!enter | mynameisdeleted16:22
ubottumynameisdeleted: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:22
jophrobb: you're using an ati gc too?16:22
LjLemperor: wrong channel for spamming email addresses.16:23
emperorljl wat is dat voor naam16:23
LjL!nl | emperor16:23
ubottuemperor: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl16:23
llutzLjL: just a troll16:23
bazhangemperor, did you have a support question? #ubuntu-nl for dutch16:24
needhelp1What would it take for ubuntu to switch from nm applet to wicd ?16:24
emperorspectrobes is cool  he16:24
needhelp1for default install16:24
jribneedhelp1: you mean you want to change the way ubuntu is distributed?16:24
LjLneedhelp1: a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)16:24
bazhangemperor, please take chat elsewhere16:24
om26erneedhelp1, 10/10016:24
kad_hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?16:24
maverickafter upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240...help please?16:24
robbjoph: trying to get a geforce2 ti + ati rage 3d to work simultaneously16:25
* om26er thinks '10' is even more16:25
jopho_O16:25
needhelp1jrib: yeah16:25
robbyep :)16:25
Edgarhello16:26
jophrobb: lol never heard of such an approach16:26
needhelp1wicd works as far as i can tell better than nm applet, nmapplet gives me so much issues its not funny.16:26
om26er!hello | Edgar16:26
ubottuEdgar: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:26
needhelp1and this issue seems pretty wide with ubuntu users16:26
Edgarhey16:26
Edgarim mexican16:26
om26erneedhelp1, remove nm and install wicd16:26
robbjoph: apparently issues with the ati card drivers being insecure16:26
robband no support on 9.10 for geforce2 ti drivers16:26
Edgarare you from us16:27
robb(binaries of both)16:27
Edgar??16:27
damjanzgAnybody know how to install a J programing language in ubuntu?16:27
om26erEdgar, this channel is english only16:27
bazhangEdgar, this is for support; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat16:27
jophbut u got this to work? sounds amazing :D16:27
maurivlc is taking a lot of memory with the time passing16:27
robbno, it's not working16:27
needhelp1om26er: i have, like 20 times and for a ton of my friends16:27
_raveni have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please16:27
needhelp1om26er: this to me seems like a big issue gone unresolved for a while16:28
jophah okay16:28
surfhi. I had problems with the wifi connection so I installed wicd. Now it's ok but my eth connection keeps disconnetting.16:28
protojaymakes16:28
the_real_daveHi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.16:28
DiverdudeI have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?16:28
jophrobb: do you know more about gaming on ati?16:28
kad_hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?16:29
chistesxI need find software make ping automatic ubuntu can anyone help me?16:29
om26er_needhelp1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+filebug16:30
the_real_daveHi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.4Ghz (128/400 and OCd to 3Ghz) Celeron to a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 (512/533). Offtopic I know, but will there be much of a difference in power?16:30
bazhangthe_real_dave, try in ##hardware as it is offtopic here16:30
petsoundsmy brain is about to melt, my iPod is no longer detected with gtkpod or other ipod software. any clue? :(16:30
bazhangpetsounds, which version of ubuntu and which ipod16:31
maverickafter upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240 ...help please?16:31
petsoundsbazhang, karmic & iPod shuffle16:31
bazhangpetsounds, rhythmbox does it fine for those two here16:31
the_real_davechistesx: I've something that might interest you. Its a script for Conky but it might do the job. http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/conky-ip-monitor/16:32
robbjoph: no, sorry16:32
the_real_davebazhang: Thanks :)16:32
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jophrobb: nobody may know everything ;)16:33
robbi know nothing :)16:33
jophjust like me16:34
chistesxthanks for answer16:34
robbwith linux, get used to it16:34
robbnice that so many do know lots16:34
jophXbert: the problem is, that most articles are about counter-strike source, like this one. i want to play cs1.6 and i didn't find helpful stuff at google. i don't know if i need to downgrade my kernel (2.6.31-14), my distro (9.10), if i need another gc-driver (prop cat 9.12) or what ever i need to do :S16:35
robbjoph: depending on family of video card, may need to go back to 8.0416:35
DiverdudeI have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?16:35
robbthis is what it seems to me, at least16:35
petsoundsbazhang, please take a look at this scrrenshot http://is.gd/6SDXj16:35
robb9.10 seems to have limited support16:36
jophrobb: yeah linux is an os that stimulates the brain and makes it easier to learn because you know it from the beginning that you need to investigate :D16:36
robbwell said16:36
bazhangpetsounds, never tried gtkpod as rhythmbox always worked with many versions and models of iPod16:37
apandahey guys. i'm trying to boot an ubuntu 8.04 at an amd k6 something 400mhz pc with 256mb ram, i've already tried acpi off and all other "extended options" and also to boot in video safe mode, but it wont get past the booting screen. i thought maybe a 6.06 live cd could still boot on that old hardware, but i cant find a download for that16:37
jophrobb: it is not really old (ati radeon hd 4850)16:37
robbjoph: if you have binary drivers loaded, that's probably as good as it gets16:38
om26er_apanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/16:38
dbdii407Question. You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?16:38
om26er_apanda, ahh sorry for the link16:39
jophhum16:39
sebsebseb!6.06 |  apanda  om26er_16:39
ubottuapanda  om26er_: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on July 14th 2009, Server support will end in June 2011. See !upgrade for upgrade instructions16:39
* om26er_ sorried for that16:40
mike5hi all. I'm back and still trying to setup wireless networking on my computer.16:40
petsoundsbazhang, when you plug in the usb do you see new device in desktop? because i don't.16:40
jophwell, i'm using the most recent ones (downloaded from ati hp is binary, isn't it? i'm not originally english, i'm german, sorry :)16:40
sebsebsebom26er_: yeah a bit silly to be recommending it to someone now, in this case apanda16:40
administratorhi16:41
sebsebsebom26er_: what's up with 8.04 on there, did you have a working install?  also there are other distros that are specifically designed for older hardware16:41
bazhangpetsounds, yes, though some models appear as usb storage device on desktop; rhythmbox c orrectly identifies as iPods though16:41
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Guest45931ok16:41
sebsebsebom26er_: whoops messaged wrong one just then, apanda see above please16:41
Guest45931Anyone Marathi here?16:41
om26er_!in | Guest4593116:42
ubottuGuest45931: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India16:42
shane2peruOk, I can't seem to get the Realplayer plugin to work with FF3?  It doesn't show up?  I installed via medibuntu repos and followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods  Any help would be appreciated.16:42
aLiiCiiaola16:43
mike5what logs do I check to see any error messages from my wireless adapter?16:43
dbdii407Anyone?16:43
om26er_!hi | dbdii40716:43
ubottudbdii407: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:43
dbdii407I already asked. :P16:43
emperorhahaham im am the emperor16:44
pa7hfinderany IBMers here/16:44
emperorno16:44
dbdii407You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?16:44
IceDaneAnyone here ever used bootchart to measure boot time? I'm looking at my aful boot chart, and it's logging stuff that's way past logging in.. Me starting a terminal, all the window manager stuff, irssi, etc. I know that's not right.16:44
emperorhuh16:44
the_real_dave!ot | emperor16:44
ubottuemperor: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:44
sebsebsebdbdii407: try #php16:44
mike5I see wpa_supplicant is reporting CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULT16:44
bazhangemperor, this is for support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic16:45
sebsebsebdbdii407: or is it ##php hrm16:45
apandaok i know 6.06 desktop support has ended, i just need a live cd of it, i think the amd k6-2 or something processors are no longer supported by the new kernels in 8.04 etc16:45
jophrobb: you won't believe what i'm gone through the last week. i installed ubuntu with wubi and went through so many traps with my ati again and again... got blackscreens at boot... kernel upgrade -> unable to mount fs ... etc etc etc :D everything in the past week and i'm glad to be (nearly through with that) but i'm happy to know what i know now :) and it ain't enough yet and i didn't reach my minimal and easy goal of playing counterstrike16:45
joph in linux. that can't be that hard ... darn16:45
the_real_daveIceDane: yup, its really useful :) Nice to have a proper graph16:45
dbdii407sebsebseb: I don't think they would have the info I'm looking for16:45
IceDanethe_real_dave: ever had the problems i'm having?16:45
sebsebsebdbdii407: http not php  just seen that properly, there is a channel for your kind of issue though,  well there's ##networking sure, but I think there's something else as well16:45
dbdii407sebsebseb: I do believe the page was written by the Ubuntu peeps?16:45
robbjoph: welcome to doing it yourself :D16:45
emperoryoutube vampire knigt16:46
the_real_daveIceDane: no :( what version of bootchart and ubuntu release are you using?16:46
emperorlooking16:46
ayazI have a problem with Conduit16:46
emperorfat16:46
sebsebsebdbdii407: what page?16:46
IceDanethe_real_dave: 9.10, the one in the repos.16:46
dbdii407sebsebseb: The placeholder page16:46
om26er_emperor, please type /part and press enter16:46
jophrobb: so you think a downgrade (of anything) may be necessary?16:46
toni_hola16:47
the_real_davecan you upload one of the graphs using Omploader.org?16:47
robblike i said, depends on hardware version, seems 9.10 should support most newer ati/nvidia cards with binary drivers quite well16:47
robband it's own drivers (less 3d support tho)16:47
IceDanethe_real_dave: sec16:47
sebsebsebdbdii407: lighthttpd is not written by Ubuntu as far as I know.  I mean most packages in the Ubuntu repo aren't written by Ubuntu developers.16:48
om26er_!sp | toni_16:48
acalbazaif i have an empty partition, would i be able to install another verion of ubuntu and have grub pick it up?  or do i need to do perform dual booting magic outside of the install process?16:48
jophrobb: but i'm not using the most recent version of ubu, cuz then i get "unable to mount root fs" and "vfs" anything ^16:49
apandaok looks like ubuntu isnt meant for amd k6-2 cpus16:49
robbhehe16:49
robbsounds messed16:49
sebsebsebacalbaza: I found out earlier that apparantly Grub 2 has issues with multi booting.   So I guess if it's the old Grub sure.  Also with enough RAM and  such you could virtual machine the other Ubuntu.16:49
dbdii407sebsebseb: I know that. But I don't think, If i remember correctly, that the placeholder page was written by lighttpd16:50
robbapanda: those should be x86 chipsets, should work16:50
sebsebsebapanda: yeah probably not,  anyway is that some really old CPU?16:50
jophyap. deinstalled it via synapt. after that lovely boot messages -g-16:50
IceDanethe_real_dave: if you scroll down far enough, you can see urxvt, irssi, all the wmii related stuff. It shouldn't be logging it.16:50
perlsyntaxDoes anyone know if this card support by ubuntu ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB ?16:50
perlsyntaxis good 3d for linux16:50
dbdii407sebsebseb: In fact, I only get it when i install it with sudo apt-get16:50
apandaamd k6-2 400 mhz. i think all newer linux kernels dont support that any longer16:50
InvaderZimWhy when theres a kernel upgrade, the pkgmanager doesnt remove the old kernel and the old initrd?16:50
sebsebsebdbdii407: ok well I don't know16:51
IdleOneInvaderZim: just in case the new kernel doesn't place nice with your hardware16:51
IceDaneInvaderZim: Because the kernel can fuck up.16:51
acalbazasebsebseb: i want to use my radeon 850xt card in jaunty... my card craps out in koala since they reved xorg and the latest catalyst drivers dont support my radeon.... kinda bummed about it.16:51
IdleOneIceDane: please watch your language16:51
apandaaltho k6-2 is x86 compatible afaik ;)16:51
swiftarrowHi!  I need to revert my ubuntu Xorg driver to intel 2.4 in karmic  Can someone please guide me?  Thanks!16:51
sebsebsebapanda: Puppy Linux  and  Damn Small Linux are designed for rather old hardware16:51
arandInvaderZim: To have a fallback option.16:51
jophdo i need to change from 64 to 32 bit ubu to play games on wine with mentionable performance?16:51
IceDaneIn which case you don't want to be stuck with only your new kernel.16:51
InvaderZimoh so after about 10 upgrades I will have a little party with grub menu and the /boot dir16:51
IceDaneOh god. Does this channel forbid profanity?16:51
IdleOneIceDane: yes16:52
IceDanethat's only one step below censoring topics.16:52
papulwhere are the .so files located?16:52
apandayeah i know, thanks :) i was trying to get ubuntu because i'm used to it a bit and its nice. i have a working puppy here too, will give that a go, ty16:52
StereocaulonProblems: 1) Sound 5.1 does not work correctly both on Pulse and ALSA, though it does show up on Alsamixer. 2 Every SDL-game crashes. 3 Youtube and many other Flash-sites crash FF when Flash Player alpha from Adobe is installed. System: Ubu 9.10 64 Bits, snd HDA-Intel, vid: nVidia 9800 using nVidia drivers16:52
thom_emperor 1516:52
the_real_daveIceDane: ya, it should stop before kdm starts. I've never seen that before. Try asking in the bootchart thread in the Ubuntu Forums Cafe?16:52
papulwhere are the .so files located?16:52
IdleOneInvaderZim: you can remove the old kernels using Synaptic if you like16:53
sebsebsebapanda: ok well  have fun with that old computer I guess and np16:53
IceDanethe_real_dave: Just ubuntuforums.org or something?16:53
ChogyDananyone know about applying patches?  It is complaining that it can't find the file, but it is comparing to /dev/null which looks like it is supposed to create the file16:53
Stereocaulonpapul: locate .so16:53
om26er_!lubuntu16:53
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu16:53
InvaderZimIdleOne: i remeber one time when I tried removing it, and it seemed a lot of programs depended on it16:53
thom_download kut16:53
thom_sex?16:53
bazhangthom_, did you have a support question?16:53
JesusSuperstarmale16:54
JesusSuperstar:P16:54
toni_hay alguien español o española?16:54
bazhangthom_, stop or you will be removed16:54
thom_kutto16:54
Stereocaulon!ot | thom_16:54
ubottuthom_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!16:54
IdleOne!es | toni_16:54
ubottutoni_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:54
bazhangtoni_, #ubuntu-es16:54
toni_thanks16:54
thom_sukkel16:54
acalbazahow can i tell what version of grub?16:54
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the_real_daveIceDane: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531453&page=6916:55
jophmay it be necessery to use 32bit ubuntu to play counter-strike 1.6 on wine with better performance?16:56
the_real_daveIceDane: bear in mind though that it's not a support thread, so your question might be better placed in the general help section16:56
IceDanethe_real_dave: Yeah, I'm writing a thread there. Thanks16:57
armenbHi I've got a really dumb question: Can someone give me a URL of an ubuntu 9.10 desktop ISO?16:57
armenbthe ubuntu.com webpage sucks and uses some awful redirection mechanism, which makes it hard for me to get the URL to paste to curl or wget.16:57
BlouBlouarmenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download16:57
armenbBlouBlou: that's exactly what I'm talking about. that webpage sucks.16:58
erUSULarmenb: wwww.ubuntu.com/download ?16:58
needhelp1who here uses wicd ?16:58
armenbI want the URL of the ISO, not the download webpage.16:58
the_real_daveneedhelp1: I do :)16:58
BlouBlouarmenb: maybe torrent?16:58
bazhangarmenb, hang on a second16:58
armenbI don't want a torrent though.16:58
needhelp1the_real_dave: and anyone else that uses wicd .. have you tried using 1.7 or are you still using 1.6.1 ?16:58
steffanarmenb: #ubuntu-website is their channel - i'm sure they welcome suggestions there16:58
bishalbishok16:58
armenboh, interesting, i didn't know that..thanks steffan16:59
steffanarmenb: no problem16:59
the_real_daveneedhelp1: I'm back on 1.5.9 :(16:59
bazhanghttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ armenb16:59
needhelp1the_real_dave: why 1.5.9?16:59
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the_real_davearmenb: try a mirror like http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ubuntu-cdimage/ ?17:01
armenbthe_real_dave: thanks. know of any on the east cost of the US? :-)17:02
the_real_daveneedhelp1: I just grabbed the version from the repos, not realising there was a newer one. Is there much improvement?17:02
needhelp1yeah, but i want to try 1.7 but its not in the ubuntu repos17:02
jopharmenb?17:02
StereocaulonMy 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...17:03
the_real_davearmenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors There's the full list :) Take your pick17:03
armenbdamnit, that URL redirects to cdimage.ubuntu.com.17:03
Link__Hey, I think that I have found a very important bug in Ubuntu ;)17:03
Link__But I have never done bug reports before17:03
oCean_!bug | Link__17:04
steffan!bugs > Link__17:04
ubottuLink__: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots17:04
ubottuLink__, please see my private message17:04
Link__Can someone help me ?17:04
armenber, sorry nevermind.17:04
bo7amny_hlo ??17:04
jopharmenb17:04
jophneed 32 or 64 bit iso?17:04
the_real_davearmenb: Give an example of what's on the east coast and I'll send you the link :)17:04
the_real_davearmenb: My knowledge of american geography ain't great17:04
oCean_armenb: torrents is an option too for ubuntu iso's17:05
_ravencannot open ENCRYPTED HOME directory - help please17:05
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AresGodOfWarraven did u setup your pw on install?17:06
mynameisdeletedso yeah... I'm forcing an fsck for my problem since I had kernels written outside the partition appearantly which seems like somethign is badly wrong17:06
StereocaulonoCean_, armenb has already said that Torrents were not an option17:06
mynameisdeletedif I see it come up with stuff I'll prob move home irectory contents to another machine and re-install17:06
bishalg17:06
mynameisdeletedthere were previous fsck troubles and its been through a lot of rough reboots17:06
Xqtftqx_hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte17:06
bishalwhat17:06
bishalhey17:07
IdleOne!hi | bishal17:07
ubottubishal: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!17:07
bishalvery good17:07
bishalthan u17:07
bishalok17:07
the_real_davearmenb: Did you get it?17:07
bishalgood17:07
Stereocaulonmynameisdeleted, did you try to run a utility to check if your HDD is still physically OK? In my case it was my IDE/ SATA controller that was shot.17:07
bazhangbishal, this is ubuntu support; did you have a support question? or just wish to chat17:08
arand!enter | bishal17:08
ubottubishal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:08
mynameisdeletedI have very cheap hard drive... 1.5TB for 115 bucks17:08
bazhangbishal, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat17:08
bishalno i dont hane17:08
mynameisdeletedfrom reports that drive can fail sometimes .. hence teh bad end of consumer reviws for it17:08
jophcan i downgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from within ubuntu 9.10 ?17:08
mynameisdeletedI dont think the motherboard type ever fails17:08
IdleOne!downgrade17:08
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.17:08
bazhangjoph, no, full reinstall17:08
Stereocaulonmynameisdeleted, WD I presume? I've had 2 of them that died within 4 months.17:08
InvaderZimjoph Why???17:08
InvaderZimjoph just reinstall17:09
jophare you sure bazhang ?17:09
IdleOnepositive17:09
bazhangjoph, noy a wubi install?17:09
jophomg i don't want all my files to go to waste ^17:09
bazhangerr not17:09
mynameisdeletedwhats the most reputable drive brand for 1.5tb size and sata?17:09
administrator_hi17:09
quarkupany1 using wine with a kernel with a BFS / CK / ZEN patchset ? i wonder about this :: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=1058117:09
IdleOnemynameisdeleted: ##hardware17:09
jophi installed with wubi, yes17:09
bazhang##hardware for hardware questions please mynameisdeleted17:09
Stereocaulonmynameisdeleted, I'd say Seagate, but they make a lot of noise17:09
administrator_<exit>17:09
administrator_exit17:09
the_real_davemynameisdeleted: I wouldn't be so sure. I once managed to short circuit just one fan connector on a mobo :) Ridiclious17:10
bazhangjoph, and you have backed up your data?17:10
InvaderZimQuestion: How to return from Console Login to Graphical Login?17:10
mynameisdeletedseagate barracuda 3.5 inch sata 1.5tb17:10
IdleOneInvaderZim: ctrl-alt-F717:10
mynameisdeleted32mb cache 7200 rpm17:10
bazhangctrl alt f7 InvaderZim17:10
oCean_mynameisdeleted: this is not a hardware discussion channel.17:10
InvaderZimIdleOne: no, its BLANK17:10
InvaderZimKDM -> Console Login17:10
FitzzI installed e16 and then removed it, and then i can't move any windows anymore on gnome. Any idea how to fix this?17:11
petsoundsbazhang, it seems that my iPod is not formatted http://is.gd/6SIeq17:11
jophcan i copy my files from the linux partition to a windows partition without destroying sth in windows?17:11
julioHi people, can someone help with my Flash PLugin??? When I watch a video in youtube, when I try to pause the video, the flash doesnt answer the command17:11
quarkuptry Ctrl+Alt+F7 then the same but between F1 and F1217:11
InvaderZimquark all blank except for the 6 consoles17:11
quarkuphmm17:11
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InvaderZimand KDM still running as a process17:11
quarkupthen your KDM daemon is not running17:11
IdleOnedoes startx work for kdm?17:12
InvaderZimstartx works17:12
quarkupkill it then restart the kdm17:12
InvaderZimbut its not what I want17:12
InvaderZimit doesnt asks for login17:12
quarkupsudo pkill -kill kdm ; startx17:12
quarkuphmm17:12
InvaderZimok... I want to know if there's a "graceful friendly" way of doing it17:12
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bazhangpetsounds, palimpsest? did you not try rhythmbox or did palimpsest autolaunch17:12
julioHi guys, why video in youtube do not PAUSE? Im runing Karmic Koala last flasb version17:12
needhelp1does anyone know any portable hdd that are using usb 3.0 ?17:12
InvaderZimyou can choose console login, but cant go back unless you reboot/17:12
administrator__hi17:12
quarkup(in kde) sudo systemsettings > advanced > login screen > user convenience > auto-login (disable it)17:13
oCean_needhelp1: maybe ask in ##hardware? This is not the place for hardware discussions17:13
InvaderZimquarkup: no, its not autologin. it doesnt show because I ran startx with my user, so its already logged in17:13
quarkupdo17:13
quarkupsudo pkill -kill Xorg17:13
quarkupsudo pkill -kill kdm17:13
InvaderZimquarkup: and if I stop and restart kdm, it works... but it's not friendly, AND in the login screen shows the console login SESSION even though its logged out17:14
oCean_!prefix | quarkup17:14
Stereocaulon My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...17:14
ubottuquarkup: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)17:14
mike5hi again. I'm reading the forums and I see that wireless problems are quite common in 9.10...17:14
mike5Still, I'd like to get it working, if asomeone could spare a few minutes17:14
quarkupInvaderZim: so it happens every time you restart the cpu17:14
InvaderZimquarkup: no... when I restart it works again17:15
InvaderZimquarkup: I just want to go back to KDM without rebooting17:15
InvaderZimquarkup: and without restarting services17:15
petsoundsbazhang, rhythmbox can't detect my ipod :(17:15
quarkupInvaderZim: then just start it17:15
quarkupKDM is a service xD17:15
quarkupa daemon17:15
InvaderZimquarkup: KDM is already running17:15
bazhangpetsounds, thats odd17:15
needhelp1mike5: wireless issues17:15
needhelp1?17:16
InvaderZimquarkup: I shouldnt have to restart it17:16
quarkupwindows has services, linux has daemons17:16
mike5yes. doesn't connect17:16
oCean_mike5: Describe your problem including hardware details and steps taken sofar. Try to keep the description in single line, so that one can follow17:16
quarkupInvaderZim: maybe it has got a problem or something weird17:16
sdwrageHey all17:16
needhelp1i wish ubuntu would look into this, and replace nm applet17:16
sdwragewhere do I put system sound themes?17:16
BluesKajhowdy folks17:16
InvaderZimquarkup: I didnt restart it to go to console, it was user friendly. Just click Power Button -> Console Login17:16
needhelp1mike5: what is it doing, or not doing?17:16
InvaderZimquarkup: not power button, menu... mixed up17:16
quarkupInvaderZim: i im understanding you17:17
scuniziwould someone hilight my nick? I'm testing an irssi script17:17
llutzscunizi: no17:17
Myke1Hello people, I have a question if you can answer... its not about Ubuntu per se, but about a program called Virtualbox... anyone know how to make the window bigger?17:17
quarkupInvaderZim: it may be a bug :s17:17
DiverdudeI have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?17:17
scunizillutz: worked! thanks17:17
InvaderZimquarkup: so no one uses this option i think, since no one knows a way to go back17:17
quarkupin my box it works great, but im using archlinux17:17
InvaderZimquarkup: how do you go back then?17:17
StereocaulonMyke1, install VirtualBox extensions, than shut-down and restart your VM17:17
quarkupi usually just press Ctrl+Alt+F717:17
InvaderZimquarkup: it should be a command like "logout"17:17
quarkupwait17:17
quarkupim checking 1 thing17:18
Myke1Virtualbox extensions are available at the VBox website?17:18
ironfoot495HI is there someone who can help fix pear and xml on my machione?17:18
InvaderZimquarkup: no, if I press ctrl+alt+f1, it works as your way... but what I'm doing is different17:18
quarkupabout the ttys and how to find the tty in which the kdm is asking for login17:18
ironfoot495machine?17:18
quarkupi know17:18
quarkupInvaderZim: the only way to get from the tty1 to the KDM is pressing Ctrl+Alt+F717:18
StereocaulonMyke1, They are available from the status bar in an open VM, look under the icon that looks like a chip17:18
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scuniziMyke1: no.. at the top of the VM guest window there are 3 menus .. one will let you "install" or mount the virtual cdrom containing vbox guest additions..17:19
quarkupusually a linux box has configured 6 terminals17:19
InvaderZimquarkup: but seems Console Login kills the "f7 screen"17:19
needhelp1mike5:  u there?17:19
scuniziMyke1: are you running kde or gnome?17:19
oCean_Myke1: you can install the guestadditions through menu option (not sure which one) - it'll download the additions.iso if not already present17:19
InvaderZimquarkup: all I get is a black screen with blinking cursos on top left17:19
quarkupso in the 7 and above are the Xorg terminal, the graphic environment17:19
sdwragewhere do I put system sound themes?17:19
Stereocaulonscunizi, This depends on the version of Virtualbox17:19
Myke1Ubuntu 9.10 (Gnome)17:19
mike5installed 9.10 for the first time yesterday. then I right-clicked on Wireless iconm selected "Edit connections..."/added in wireless tab, defines SSID, and Wireless security "WPA & WPA2 personal"17:20
Myke1ok let me look for the menu17:20
quarkupInvaderZim: weird. it must be a bug. ask it in the ubuntu forums. maybe you have found one bug. !17:20
StereocaulonMyke1, which Guest OS are you running as VM?17:20
scuniziStereocaulon: if you mean the difference between -ose and non-free you might be right.. I only run non-free for the usb support17:20
Stereocaulonscunizi, that might be the difference, yes...17:20
InvaderZimquarkup: is it better to ask in forums or file a bug?17:20
mike5needhelp1: I also have "connect automatically" checked and "available to all users"17:20
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Myke1Free BSD17:20
scuniziMyke1: did you load vbox from the repos or did you get it direct from vbox?17:21
needhelp1and it wont connect?17:21
needhelp1mike5:17:21
StereocaulonMyke1, I'm not sure if FreeBSD has extensions...17:21
Myke1From Vbox's website17:21
quarkupInvaderZim: ask first in the forum. it may be an issue17:21
StereocaulonMyke1, did you install a .deb specifically for Ubu 9.10?17:22
sdwragewhere do I put system sound themes?17:22
Myke1Yup17:22
quarkupInvaderZim: then if nobody has an answer OR if nobody solves the problem, file the bug report ;)17:22
* matelot Is Bazaar a good chioce for single-user to just keep track of changes to files (not projects) ?17:22
Myke1Everything works just fine, its just that the window doesnt get any bigger then what it is17:22
Stereocaulonmatelot, Bazaar is quite heavy, I'm not sure if it's useful for 1-person "projects"17:23
matelotStereocaulon: oh really, that sucks17:23
StereocaulonMyke1, did you try setting VM options in VBox before you start the VM?17:23
deanx3hi.. i want my dns server..update automatically my dynamic ip  in all A records entries...  is the best thing to do , or its better to use CNAME only with dyndns domain?17:24
deanx3 the ip change very rarely... but i want something update auto17:24
Stereocaulonmatelot, why not use Subversion, or CVS?17:24
jolarenhello17:24
Stereocaulon!question | jolaren17:25
ubottujolaren: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:25
mike5needhelp1: also, if I left click on the wireless icon, and select "connect to hidden wireless network", if I select the connection from combo box, it the data gets filled in other fields except password, but "connect" button is disabled.17:25
matelotStereocaulon: SVN has not gui client17:25
jolarenStereocaulon; I have no question17:26
matelotStereocaulon: cvs is rather "old"17:26
fire_princes#ubuntu .bg17:26
Myke1i dont have an option, it let me adjust the window size, but it doesnt get any bigger17:26
oCean_Stereocaulon: there was no question (yet) in there. No need to throw the !factoids around17:26
fire_princescould someone give me the link to that bg chat?17:26
bazhangfire_princes, #ubuntu-bg for bulgaria17:27
fire_princesthank you!17:27
mosimoive got a rather odd problem ive not seen before, If i do "df -h" my partition /dev/sda1 says size: 456G, used 434G, available 0, use 100%17:27
Stereocaulonmatelot, there is an extension for Firefox if you use Tortoise SVN. That will get you a GUI17:28
mosimono matter how much stuff i delete it always says available: 017:28
mosimoeven though the used amount is going down17:28
Lyokoñlkjhgfd17:28
Xqtftqx_hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte17:28
paulproteusThe filesystem reserves some space for root by default17:29
paulproteusman tune2fs look for reserve17:29
Lyokoespañol17:29
matelotStereocaulon: Tortoise SVN is awindows client , no ?17:29
ikonia!es | Lyoko17:29
ubottuLyoko: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:29
mosimocheers, ill have a look17:29
bazhangLyoko, #ubuntu-es17:29
jophwhat does LTS mean?17:29
joph(hardy heron LTS)17:29
ikoniajoph: "long term support"17:29
Lyokohello17:29
Stereocaulonmatelot, it also has a Linux-port if I'm not mistaken17:29
Xqtftqx_is there a special chan for server support?17:29
Lyokobonjour17:29
Lyokohola17:29
scunizi!lts | joph17:29
ubottujoph: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04).  The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)17:29
ikoniaXqtftqx_: ask here or #ubuntu-server17:30
Xqtftqx_thank you17:30
mosimoheh, cant run gzip to extract the manual. no space on device, ill look for an online one17:30
LyokoAblo español17:30
ikonia!es | Lyoko17:30
ubottuLyoko: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:30
bazhangLyoko, /join #ubuntu-es17:30
Stereocaulonmatelot, sorry about that, you can use RapidSVN in combination with SubVersion17:30
jophah thanks ikonia17:30
Lyokoqwertyuiopñlkjhgfdsazxcvbnm17:31
matelotStereocaulon: yeah never heard of RapidSVN, have to check it out...17:31
Lyokoffgggg17:31
bazhangLyoko, stop that17:31
bazhangwhoops17:31
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mosimopaulproteus: tune2fs, setting the reserve block amount lower sorted it for now, thanks17:32
paulproteusmosimo, Yay!17:32
Stereocaulonikonia, What a delicious polite phrase to kick someone from the channel, I love it...17:32
mosimogot to fit a bigger hdd in there on monday now17:32
jophomg it will only take 18 hours to download the desktop iso because i got only 10KB/s17:33
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Stereocaulonjoph, whoa, are you on a ISDN-line or something?17:33
InvaderZimjoph: torrent up17:33
scunizijoph: try the torrent17:33
IdleOnetake you less time to start from scratch17:33
jophmy internet is down to 10KB/s maybe because i didn't pay my provider this month until today17:35
jph_why would sudo apt-get install apache2 return that if couldn't find a package by that name?17:35
scunizijph_: do you want the full lamp stack?17:35
Stereocaulonjoph, that is reasonable, you can still read your text-only e-mail that way.17:36
ikoniajph_: is there a package called apache2 ?17:36
ikoniajph_: also make sure you do apt-get update first17:36
jph_yes but tasksel dosn't list it...17:36
scunizijph_: tasksel does list "lamp"17:36
jph_yea just basic server, ssh and manual17:37
Stereocaulonjoph, You might try to seek an open Wireless Network instead, just ask around with your neighbours.17:37
scunizijph_: what version of ubuntu are you running?17:37
jph_9.1017:37
jophye17:37
InvaderZimhow do you leave tasksel?17:37
M3TVFanybody running Linrad in Ubuntu17:37
InvaderZimctrl c doesnt work17:37
scunizijph_: it's there.. there's so much more listed in tasksel on 9.10 it's easy to overlook17:38
StereocaulonInvaderZim, did you try 'q'?17:38
jph_k brb phone call17:38
InvaderZimStereocaulon: Q doesnt work17:39
Welshy-Rob_hi dose anyone know of a pidgin plugin that sets your status as what songs playing in ubuntu 9.10 karmic17:39
InvaderZimWelshy-Rob_: ask in  #pidgin17:40
boss_mcWelshy-Rob_: pidgin-musictracker17:40
matelotAnyone evered used Perforce ?17:40
Welshy-Rob_InvaderZim, i tried , couldnt connect to channel17:40
Welshy-Rob_cheers boss_mc17:41
XfactI found many useful DNS servers that many company providing, like Google public dns, Opendns etc., can anyone tell me which is the best dns provider that can really stabilize my connection?17:41
ikoniaXfact: that's not an ubuntu question17:42
unopXfact, the best ones are the ones who have the shortest roundtrip time for you -- so benchmark a few and choose the one that suits you well17:42
Tr1nXfact:  download namebench, will tell you what server is fastest for you17:42
jophStereocaulon thanks for the hint :)17:42
Xfactthanks, and I believe that was a Ubuntu internet settings related question :)17:43
Stereocaulonjoph, np :-)17:43
Stereocaulon My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...17:43
jophStereocaulon but i have no wlan ^^ i will use torrent because sometimes it stops loading and i need to redownload omg17:43
ikoniaXfact: no it's not17:43
Xfactikonia: I don't want to start a debate, but I think it's your personal opinion :)17:44
ikoniaXfact: no - it's not, asking which open dns servers are stable is nothing to do with ubuntu17:44
ikoniaXfact: if your dns servers are failing, contact your ISP17:44
Stereocaulonjoph, Maybe one of your neighbours are so kind to download Ubuntu for you and burn it on a disk? Many old folks around here have a 4MB+ ADSL connection just to get some occasional e-mail...17:44
jophStereocaulon: did you install jack or something like that?17:44
jellowanyone know a way to autmaticly reverse ssh tunnel every time i boot17:45
mibmib_i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded....so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration (i don´t wanna give these documents 777...17:45
mibmib_...rights, i guess thats not secure)17:45
FloodBot4mibmib_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:45
Xfactikonia: actually that wasn't my question, I was asking for batter DNS...17:45
ikoniamibmib_: you'd have to script that17:45
Stereocaulonjoph, no I didn't install17:45
StereocaulonJack17:45
ikoniaXfact: yes, and better dns serves are nothing to do with ubuntu17:45
jophhehe i will download it myself. sometimes i'm a little patient :) well from 26mbit down to 10kb :D that's hard food17:46
ikoniajoph: have you tried using the torrents ? they normally come down quicker17:46
WipsterHi, I'm trying to make a boot cd remastering didn't work out too well so I am trying to build from scratch but I am having a few issues with size and I think I am messing something up heh. Can someone lend a hand17:47
jophi'm just using it17:47
killaxxlkilla17:47
Stereocaulonjoph, that's a good pipe indeed. 26MB/s...If you can't pay it, why not downgrade to some more affordable connection?17:47
Xfactikonia: yes it is, Ubuntu runs internet, and faster internet runs on batter DNS, I wanted faster net on my karmic so I asked, so I believe it has relation with Ubuntu and so other peoples answered my question gently, and please don't keep this topic anymore....:)17:48
jophmy download rate is low because my provider has set it that way17:48
killaxxlrecent17:49
IdleOneXfact: better is the proper spelling :)17:49
killaxxl!recent17:49
StereocaulonWipster, try using K3B in order to get a reliable bootable CD.17:49
ikoniaXfact: please view your private messages as I don't want to take the channel any further offtopic17:49
jophit's about 19€ per month, it's not that expensive17:49
jophcable17:50
aboucipu...17:50
WipsterStereocaulon, thanks, I;l look into it17:50
Stereocaulonjoph, That's pretty good indeed, how's your upload?17:50
ikoniaStereocaulon: guys - the channels topic is ubuntu support17:50
ikonianot dsl comparision tests, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic of pm please.17:50
osotogariAnyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?17:50
XfactIdleOne: where I miss-spelled?17:50
IdleOneXfact: in your last two statements.17:51
Stereocaulonikonia, OK.17:51
jophi didn't pay because my money didn't come17:51
killaxxltheres a package download for fn kays17:51
killaxxlheys*17:51
jophul is just 1mb17:51
killaxxlkeys*17:51
deanx3is it better to run older version of ubuntu..with 128RAM? or the latest will run properly without gui? for run a server http,smtp,pop3,dns with 20clients max approx?17:51
Xfacti don't think so...17:51
Stereocaulonjoph, we could discuss this in a Private channel, ikonia is not someone to mess with17:51
ikoniadeanx3: just run ubuntu 8.04 for stability and disable X1117:52
dartHello, since I can install firefox 32bits in ubuntu 9.10 64bits?17:52
ikoniadeanx3: you'll get solid stability and disabling X will save you some ram17:52
salatwould someone with network knowledge please query me?17:52
jophhehe np17:52
ikoniadeanx3: you can, but why do you wnat to ?17:52
ikoniasalat: just ask the channel your question if it's an ubuntu issue17:52
jophbut this is a serious linux problem ;D17:52
ikoniajoph: enough please.17:53
StereocaulonI'm trying to enable Japanese (Kana/ Kanji) input on Ubu 9.10. Tried installing every IME and associated font, but no JP input yet...17:53
killaxxlwhen you install it didnt ask language?17:53
AshishMalikHow can I check if my UBUNTU can play WOLFENSTEIN game. Whether it meets all System Requirements or Not.17:53
ikoniaStereocaulon: you're not the only one who's had a problem with that, I've seen a bug on launchpad for jp support if you don't select it at install time17:54
osotogari@ killaxxl : whats the package name?17:54
ikoniaAshishMalik: what are the system requirements for wolfenstein ?17:54
salatsomething is wrong with my crossover connection. seems like my wlan-inet access uses eth0...shouldnt it use its own?17:54
killaxxljust search function keys17:54
killaxxlor fn keys17:54
Stereocaulonikonia, thanks do you have a link to that bug?17:54
ikoniaStereocaulon: no, but I'm sure if you search you'll find it17:54
killaxxlup at the top of the manager17:54
osotogari@ killaxxl : in synaptic?17:54
killaxxlyeah17:54
ikoniaStereocaulon: I believe this was on 8.04 fyi17:55
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killaxxl\i know i saw a package for toshiba just browsing17:55
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maverickHi I've installed MPlayer and I keep getting the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.67: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory..libx264-67 is the latest version17:55
ikoniakillaxxl: tosh package is hot keys as I recall17:55
AshishMalikikonia: 3D hardware accelerator with 32 MB with full open GLSupport17:55
ikoniaAshishMalik: ok - so that's video card requirements, what video card do you have ?17:55
killaxxli am pretty sure it had one for fn keys too17:55
Stereocaulonikonia, I've used it without problems from Ubu 5.04 all the way up till 9.1017:56
AshishMalikikonia: I mainly want to check this17:56
eremiteI need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix and out of sync video.17:56
ikoniaStereocaulon: oh really, so it's just 9.10 casuing you the problem17:56
Stereocaulonikonia, I'm afraid so.17:56
sdwrageHey all, where is the configuration editor in ubuntu 9.10?17:56
sdwragei need to edit my splash image17:56
llutzsdwrage: sudo nano ....17:56
ikonia!splash | sdwrage17:57
ubottusdwrage: To change the Gnome splash screen, use gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.17:57
ikoniasdwrage: splash image is not a quick change, it's quite complex17:57
ikonia!bootsplash | sdwrage17:57
salatseems like my wlancard uses eth0...why is this so?17:57
sdwragellutz, ikkerus thx :)17:57
Nuxcyis there anyway to undo crontab -r ?17:57
me___hi; i'm running 8.04 (LTS) and would like to upgrade to the future; update-manager -d only offer 10.4 for me... how should i upgrade?17:57
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deanx3i will download17:57
ikoniame___: update-manager -d is for devleopment releases, there is only 10.04 in development so that's why it's offering you 10.0417:57
deanx3LTS17:57
deanx3iokonia17:57
killaxxlooo i love this channel17:58
me___ikonia: ah okay. how should i upgrade?17:58
IdleOneme___: System > Administration > Update Manager and change the setting from LTS only to all17:58
ikoniame___: are you currently running 8.04 ?17:58
sdwragellutz, why the ... ?17:58
me___yes17:58
Stereocaulonme___, I'm afraid it's not feasible to upgrade from 8.04 => 9.10 Try a clean install instead17:58
sdwrageyou stated that like I should know this already17:58
me___i'd have to do all the intermediate upgrades, right?17:58
llutzsdwrage: to be replaced by a configuration-filename of your choice17:58
ikoniame___: ok - so update-manager will only offer you the next lts release (10.04) unless you tell it to offer non-lts releases.17:58
ikoniame___: yes, you have to go through them17:58
eremiteI need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER (or any video player) play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix an out of sync video.17:58
sdwragellutz, ah I see :P my bad17:58
killaxxllol i just got a funny ass pm17:58
thedlwI recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?17:59
mibmib_i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...17:59
sdwragellutz, so used to arrogant people thinking others should know what they know. thx for the help ;)17:59
mibmib_the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded.17:59
me___okay, changing sources.list one by one is a good way to step through intrepid/what-ever-9.04-was/jaunty?17:59
osotogariAnyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?17:59
ikoniame___: if you open update manager and hit "settings" in the bottom left, you'll see a "release upgrade" drop down at the bottom, change this to "normal releases" rather than lts and it will work17:59
IdleOneme___: sorry, change LTS only to Normal releases17:59
ikoniame___: don't change your sources.list - that is the wrong way17:59
xorredI have / on disk1 and /home on disk2, how do I move / on disk 2 too?17:59
mibmib_so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration17:59
xorred guess a new folder - home - must be created there and /home/content must be moved to /home/, then copy all  from / to disk2 and then run grub?17:59
mibmib_i don´t wanna give these documents 777 rights, i guess thats not secure18:00
me___okay, thanks.18:00
Stereocaulonme___, Mostly it's quicker to just create a backup of your /home drive and do a clean install. If you have to go through every intermediate install, also picking up upgrade bugs of every upgrade in the process...18:00
ThermateI have some music for this channel.18:00
me___i can't clean install as i no longer have a cd-drive and can't boot usb...18:00
llutzeremite: mplayer -delay               (read man-page for further info)18:00
eremiteMusic for a help channel?18:00
Thermate"I will go down with this ship18:00
ThermateI will raise myh arms18:00
Thermateand surrender18:00
IdleOneme___: then you have your answer :)18:00
Thermatenow you won't be able to get it out of your head18:00
xorredThermate: fk u18:01
ikoniame___: follow the instructions I gave you18:01
ikoniaThermate: stop that please18:01
sdwrageThermate, I hate racists18:01
IdleOneThermate: stop18:01
me___ikonia: okay, will d.18:01
me___*do18:01
ThermateWhat did I do wrong?18:01
eremitesdwrage, WTF are you talking about?18:01
eddymhey guys how i can i give access to my ubuntu pc to windows pc18:01
Thermatesdwrage I am not a racist18:01
ikoniaeddym: control the langauge please18:01
sdwrageeremite, I got a PM18:01
deanx3any opensource package are available in ubuntu gui.. for automated mouse and keyboard.....  and you can play at schedule later... the mouse and keyboard  you saved early.?18:01
sdwragetalking about Obama being a N***** from Thermate18:01
ikoniaThermate: please don't make pointless comments, it's a support channel, help or don't, but don't make pointless noise18:02
eremiteHe is.18:02
IdleOneThermate: a couple things actually. Using enter key as punctuation, not staying on topic18:02
daviciao18:02
eddymcan some1 kick thermate18:02
sdwrageeremite, again... I hate racism18:02
davi!lista18:02
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »18:02
eddymthank you18:02
thedlwI recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?18:03
IdleOneeddym: right click on the folder you want to share, click properties and share the folder. Samba will be installed if it is not already. Then you will be able to access that folder from windows18:03
newguy2010For some reason I cannot access my home room can someone help me18:04
newguy2010Sorry my home folder18:04
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eddymIdleOne, thanks18:04
IdleOneeddym: np. if you have any issues just ask in here and someone will try and help18:04
PorbsKHi Can anyone tell me how do I enable my SLIP/PPP connection on Kubuntu18:04
n2diy_! wireless18:05
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:05
newguy2010I have a new issue, I am not able to save to my home folder it says access denied18:05
Stereocaulonikonia, Could you please ban Thermate from this channel, he/ she is harassing me on PM18:05
me___hmm system >> administration >> update manager doesn't seem to have a 'settings' button?18:05
IdleOneme___: on the bottom left?18:05
sayanrijunewguy2010, sudo chown -R <yourlogin> /home/<yourlogin>18:06
ikoniaStereocaulon: it's not in the channel any more, join #freenode and speak to staff18:06
llutznewguy2010: sudo chown you:you -R /home/you                  you = your username18:06
Stereocaulonikonia, I will if Thermate continues.18:06
ertyuiohi there18:06
me___ah, its in System >> Admin >> Software Sources18:06
selycan anyone tell me what package contins gtk-config?  i'm using ubuntu 9.10 if it matters18:06
newguy2010sayanriju--Thanks ill try18:06
IdleOneme___: yes there also18:06
ertyuioi need all this package for ubuntu 9.10 i dont know how to find it18:07
killaxxlnewguy2010: have you tied going root?18:07
ertyuiodeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main18:07
ertyuiodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse18:07
ertyuiodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse18:07
ertyuiodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse18:07
ertyuiodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse18:07
FloodBot4ertyuio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:07
IdleOne!feisty18:07
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 19th, 2008. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.18:07
IdleOneertyuio: upgrade to a supported release18:08
me___know of any faster gtk themes than Human, btw?18:08
ertyuioi neeed all this package for ubuntu 9.1018:08
ertyuiohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/361385/18:08
Leoneof`hi, this does work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?18:08
yahyaالسلام عليكم18:09
Leoneof`doesn't*18:09
Leoneof`this doesn't work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?18:09
sayanrijuertyuio, those are not packages, they refer to repositories18:09
IdleOneertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?18:09
ikoniaLeoneof`: iptables-save is the command18:09
llutzLeoneof`: sudo iptables-save18:09
Leoneof`oh thanks :)18:09
killaxxlevery one!!! i just snorted a oxycontin!!!18:09
killaxxl=/18:09
IdleOneikonia: ^^18:09
ertyuiohelllo18:09
newguy2010I received the error "chown: missing operand after `wmy76ram/home/wmy76ram'  after entering sudo chown -R <login>/home/<yourlogin>18:10
ertyuiois there anyone here ?18:10
ikoniaIdleOne: huh ?18:10
xorredcan I use 6GB of ram with the default i386 release of 9.10? 9.04 used to see only 418:10
killaxxli am here18:10
IdleOneikonia: look at killaxxl last few lines18:10
sayanrijunewguy2010, there's a blank space  before /home...18:10
llutzxorred: you have to use 64bit or pae-kernel18:10
IdleOnethank you18:10
mobidroidHi I just installed Mandriva on my computer which also have ubuntu, I tought the grub file would just be updated and allow me to boot both OS it's not the case. Is there a easy way to add ubuntu on the list? I cant find the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition in order to copy the kernel image stuff, I tried a chainloader but i guess im doing it wrong18:10
newguy2010thanks trying again18:11
alanmmhi all, i have a serious problem and could really use some help please!!!!18:11
ikoniamobidroid: due to grub 2 it no longer works well as a dual boot option18:11
IdleOnealanmm: please ask18:11
mobidroidikonia: ok is tere a way to repair my ubuntu parition?18:11
mobidroidpartition*18:11
zambamobidroid: depends what's wrong with it18:11
bartekhey18:12
ikoniamobidroid: what's the problem with it ?18:12
IdleOnehello bartek18:12
mobidroidwell actually the partition should be fine but i just want to boot ubuntu18:12
barteki upgrade my ubu 9.04 to 9.1018:12
mobidroidmandriva only offer mandriva image18:12
bartekand there's no sound18:12
ertyuiolot of question without answer18:12
alanmmi had run out of space on my 10gb drive and .private or something showed as using most of the space so i removed it (dont use it anyway) and now i can't log in with the graphical login and when i do "ls" nothing shows up at all except . and .. and .cache. when i type df the space used is still nearly full so is my files still there do you think?18:12
ertyuiohere18:12
ikoniamobidroid: you need to edit your mandrakes boot menu for grub18:12
PorbsKAre Ubuntu  and Kubuntu setting for PPPoE ADSL same ?18:12
ertyuiowhere is my answer ?18:12
IdleOnebartek: run alsmixer in terminal and unmute everything18:13
newguy2010sayanriju--  now i receive chown: cannot access `/home/wmy76ram/.gvfs': Permission denied18:13
bartekhmm18:13
IdleOneertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?18:13
alanmmthis is my work computer so i am kinda screwed if it's messed up :(18:13
sayanrijumobidroid, read the official help on grub2, and reinstall grub2 using a live cd; then add boot option for Mandriva18:13
bartekIdleOne, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device18:13
ertyuioi just need all this package for 9.1018:13
IdleOnebartek: hmmm strange18:13
sayanrijunewguy2010, now retry accessing your home directory18:13
barteki know;/18:13
IdleOne!sound | bartek see if this helps some18:14
mobidroidikonia, yup, but i'm stock at the name of the kernel and image path, I mounted the ubuntu partition trying to find the "old menu list" but didnt find it to copy paste the old settings so is there a default image that i should use?18:14
ubottubartek see if this helps some: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:14
_if_mobidroid: maybe supergrub can help?18:14
bartekbash: !sound: event not found18:14
ikoniamobidroid: don't copy and paste your grub 2 options to grub one,  just add the ubuntu entries to your mandriva grub boot list18:14
mobidroidsayanriju: but who is using grub2 ? ubuntu or madriva? i see grub 1.5 when it boot18:14
IdleOnebartek: foolow the link and info ubottu just gave you :)18:14
IdleOnefollow*18:14
bartekok, thx ubottu18:14
sayanrijumobidroid, ubuntu 9.10 uses grub2, mandriva uses 1.518:14
ikoniamobidroid: you're using the mandriva grub, so that's the one you ned to edit18:15
ikoniasayanriju: he's using grub 118:15
sayanrijuikonia, yes, because he installed mandriva after ubuntu18:15
ikoniasayanriju: yes18:15
jophalanmm: did you type in cd / before looking for files?18:15
bartekreboot18:15
newguy2010sayanriju:  OK on home folder but trying to put file there to install program and get this error  Error moving file: Permission denied18:15
berserk_renyo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T18:15
mobidroidikonia: yep lets me put on pastebin some info about my stuff18:15
alanmmjoph: no. if i do that then i get lots of stuff like dev mnt usr home etc18:15
salem_caen#ubuntu-fr18:16
alanmmi can log in in the black console18:16
sayanrijuikonia, mobidroid so he should perhaps restore the ubuntu grub, and then add a boot option for mandriva18:16
ikoniasayanriju: why ?18:16
sayanrijuikonia, coz grub2>grub1.518:16
ikoniasayanriju: ubuntu won't be able to update any mandriva options due to how grub 2 works, mandriva will18:16
ikoniasayanriju: no it's not18:16
ikoniasayanriju: why is grub2 better than grub 1 ?18:16
alanmmbut not the graphical window.. just goes back to the login window after a few seconds18:16
jophso what is missing?18:16
sayanrijunot better, later version18:16
ikoniasayanriju: so ??? why does that mean its better to use18:17
alanmmjoph: when i log in, if i type ls it shows ., .., .cache18:17
berserk_renyo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T I18:17
berserk_ren using ubuntu 9.0418:17
ikoniasayanriju: if version numbers ar eyou deciding factor I suggest you look at how you evaluate software18:17
PorbsKis "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf' gonna also work for Kubuntu ?18:17
alanmmjoph: nothing else. until i removed .private it had Documents, Desktop, etc etc etc18:17
sayanrijuikonia, perhaps you should suggest the ubuntu devs the same thing18:17
IdleOnePorbsK: it should18:17
PorbsKok18:17
IdleOnePorbsK: you could ask in #kubuntu18:18
ikoniasayanriju: they chose it for a different reason, grub 1 is better for his dual boot options18:18
sayanrijupersonally, /me feels grub2 is plain half-baked18:18
jophalanmm: but u wanted to delete it and now complain about that?18:18
mobidroidikonia: http://pastebin.fr/664018:18
barteklol18:18
newguy2010cant save to home folder.  I get access denied.  I am the administrator.18:18
barteknow it works18:18
bartek:)18:18
IdleOnebartek: happy to hear it.18:18
mobidroidI know that the ubuntu partition is the first partition18:19
IdleOnebartek: what did you change?18:19
jophberserk_ren: try the ati drivers and build distro specific packages18:19
mAriachihello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:19
alanmmjoph: no, there was a folder called .private or .Private or Private or something.. it was showing as taking all the space and i don't use it so I deleted it but it deleted EVERYTHING like documents etc that were not in the "private" folder18:19
sayanrijuikonia, actually IMHO, both grub2 and 1.5 are ok for his purpose, but let's not argue :)18:19
PorbsKMy ethernet device just wont get started while in Kubuntu is there any way to get it work it's attached to motherboard18:19
barteki changed in menu.lst kernel number18:19
ikoniasayanriju: really - ok, how would mandriva update the grub options that are stored on ubuntu's /etc partition ?18:19
bartekbecause i did upgrade from 9,04 to 9,1018:19
berserk_renjoph, i've tried many times... i usen Envy too18:19
IdleOnebartek: ok.18:20
bartekand grub doesn't change idk why18:20
mobidroidsayanriju , ikonia: any idea what i need to put in my menu.lst?18:20
ikoniamobidroid: you're ubuntu boot options, kernel/initrd etc etc18:20
jophalanmm: why do you think, was that folder so big?18:20
jophdid you even look into it before deleting?18:21
alanmmjoph: no idea.. but it was empty18:21
berserk_renalso tried open source driver - but opsource drv is sucks... it wasnt workig for unknown reason18:21
alanmmjoph: yes, was empty18:21
mobidroidikonia that's the part I really don't know.. I just know its karmic koala :S18:21
alanmmjoph: i don't understand why it went wrong18:21
ikoniamobidroid: mount your ubuntu partition, look at the /boot partition and get the kernel and initrd details from there18:22
bartekhmm18:22
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:22
alanmmim not supposed to be able to mess with files on this computer that im not allowed to i think because it's encrypted18:22
bartekwhich player is good to listen radio?18:22
alanmmso it shouldn't be messed up18:22
mAriachibartek: Exaile18:23
alanmmnot too badly anyway        :)18:23
IdleOnebartek: vlc works nice for me18:23
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:23
bartekok, i'll try18:23
mobidroidikonia: look http://pastebin.fr/6641 Iv'e put the listing of my ubuntu boot folder, is that what i need?18:23
erpoI want to simulate dialup speeds on my laptop when I'm surfing from my home broadband connection. I've tried traffic shaping with the tc command, but that only limits upstream speeds. Suggestions?18:23
alanmmjoph: the total space available still shows as almost 100% so the files are still there somewhere18:23
jophalanmm: not every folder that looks empty to you at the first sight is really empty18:24
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:24
alanmmjoph: ok18:24
goog1jhmAriachi: maybe there are two sound-devices in your box...18:24
alanmmjoph: any possibility to reverse what i did?18:24
ikoniamobidroid: yes that has your kernels18:24
mobidroidikonia: and wich one is the good one?!?!18:24
mAriachigoogljh: i don't quite understand you18:24
ikoniamobidroid: that latest versions in /boot18:24
mAriachigoogljh: which box?18:25
jophalanmm: okay they will be hidden in some . <- prefixed folders18:25
alanmmwhy would there be a folder that seems huge but not have any files in it be so important??18:25
bartekmAriachi, exaile works good :) thanks18:25
goog1jhyour computer, mAriachi...18:25
mobidroidok18:25
alanmmjoph: there is a .cache but its empty18:25
jophlike the ones in /home/yourusername18:25
WipsterIf I am making a livecd and I need a customised kernel should I make the kernel in the livecd chroot? that means downloading all of the packages for compiling...18:25
mAriachibartek: np anytime, anywhere18:25
jophalanmm: i dunno18:25
alanmmjoph: ls /home/alanmm shows ., .. and .cache18:25
alanmmargh18:26
alexande1hi18:26
alanmm:,(18:26
mAriachigoogljh: it's a notebok18:26
mobidroidikonia: is the "root=UUID=" stuff usefull?!18:26
jophikonia: can he reverse deleting the private folder?18:26
goog1jhmAriachi: check how many playback-devices you have..maybe every output got his own device?18:26
ikoniajoph: pardon ?18:27
alanmmi didn't put annything in the private folder !!18:27
ikoniamobidroid: you can use that, but I'd just use device names at this time18:27
mAriachigoogjlh: tried every combination, doesnt work18:27
jophalanmm: and do your applications still start?18:27
alanmmjoph: i can't log in18:27
alanmmjoph: except in the black screen18:27
jophalanmm: gimma an example of what application you have installed18:28
alanmmehhh18:28
alanmmfirefox18:28
goog1jhmAriachi: do you use alsa or oss?18:28
naruto_pr0hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?18:28
jophikonia: alanmm has deleted some directories and wants to know if he can undo that18:28
joyce_When I try this, I'm getting a regex could not be compiled error. Can some one plz tell me why? <FilesMatch  "(?<!(gif|jpeg|png|swf|ico|php))$">18:28
mAriachigoogljh: i've got to the point of muting the headphones when they are plugged, but the speakers continue playing, if i dont mute the headphones, the headphones (external speakers) and internal speakers play at the same time18:28
ikoniajoph: probably not18:28
mAriachii have both18:28
rafael_hello i need to apply a patch to modem manager but when i try to get the source it says that the directory couldn't be found18:28
mAriachigoogljh: i have both18:29
mAriachigoogljh: realtek is the OSS, the other is Nvidia HDA Alsa18:29
naruto_pr0rafael_, sudo apt-get update18:29
jophalanmm: try it with "ls -a"18:29
rafael_if i update, do i get the patches?18:29
mobidroidikonia: do you think it's this is ok : http://pastebin.fr/664218:29
alanmmim gonna try leaving it switched off for a while18:29
alanmmjoph: ., .., .cache18:29
ouyesfinally, i installed ubuntu to my sd card sucessfully and now i am runing it .18:30
alanmm. .. .cache18:30
naruto_pr0rafael_, maybe just try it18:30
ikoniamobidroid: seems enough to boot it you'll need your root= linux too18:30
jophalanmm: "cd /home/alanmm" ... then ... "ls -a"18:30
alanmmsame18:30
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:30
alanmmjoph: same18:30
mobidroidikonia: is root (hd0,1) enought?18:30
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Johnny_Smith_14test18:30
ikoniamobidroid: no18:31
mobidroidikonia: argg any idea how i find the root info?18:31
jophempty?18:31
naruto_pr0hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?18:31
ikoniamobidroid: come on ???? you know what disk your root file system is on18:31
e3coany upstart experts in here?18:31
ikoniae3co: just ask the question18:31
karma_policewhats the easiest way to only display linux and windows in grub dualboot/18:32
ikonianaruto_pr0: how did you upgrade it to 3.6 ?18:32
ikoniakarma_police: remove the entries you don't want from the grub menu.lst18:32
jophalanmm: is it empty? is there another folder in /home/ ?18:32
alanmmjoph: wtf. there is a whole bunch of stuff in ../.Private18:32
alanmmjoph: yeah18:32
ikoniaalanmm: please control your language18:32
karma_policei think i have grub2.. how do i get to the list?18:32
alanmmjoph: /home/.Private18:32
alanmmand /home/.ecryptfs18:32
ikoniakarma_police: look in /etc/grub18:33
alanmmikonia: sos!18:33
e3coI am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot wont to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is not inittab anymore18:33
ouyeskarma_police,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg18:33
mAriachikarma_police: if you want to remove older kernels, use the Synaptic to uninstall them18:33
naruto_pr0ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion18:33
e3cowont=want18:33
scunizikarma_police: like ikonia said.. but the alternative is to just comment them out with #18:33
joph:)18:33
[B]randonCheck out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to brandon@nlsecurity.org Thanks!18:33
alanmmjoph: but not my files.. just random stuff18:33
karma_policei've removed the kernals.. just want to get rid of memtest and recovery18:33
[B]randonCheck out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to brandon@nlsecurity.org Thanks!18:33
e3cobasically I am building a Terminal Server client for work18:33
mobidroidikonia: hmmm well it's all on the same partition / disk?! I'm lost now18:33
scunizikarma_police: that's not a good idea18:34
mAriachikarma_police: edit the grub.cfg with su privileges18:34
PorbsKI'm havin a lot of probs with Kubuntu but I wish to continue with it so is anyone able t configure their PPPoE broadband with Ubuntu 9.10 ?18:34
ouyeshow to remove the old kernel since a update18:34
alanmmjoph: /home/alanmm/.ecryptfs/alanm/private etc etc18:34
alanmmarggggggggg18:34
jophalanmm: can't you log in to X?18:34
karma_policei may just comment them out18:34
* matelot I want to install a software and here is my questioin: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168931/18:34
mAriachikarma_police: i wouldt suggest it either, memtest is a needy and powerful tool18:34
ikoniamobidroid: root for mandriva is not on the same partition as ubuntu18:34
ikoniamobidroid: look at the entries in /etc/grub on your ubuntu partition18:34
karma_policemay just leave it alone then :)18:34
mAriachiouyes: use the Synaptic to uninstall them18:34
alanmmjoph: if X is the desktop then no, i can't.. just goes to the login window again. i can login when i go to ctrl alt f118:35
karma_policewas just trying to clean up the grub menu a bit18:35
jophalanmm: did you find it?18:35
alanmmjoph: find what?18:35
mAriachiouyes: just type in the name of the kernel you want removed and uninstall them18:35
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:35
trismkarma_police: if you just want to remove memtest from the menu but leave it installed you can just sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+; sudo update-grub;18:36
e3co I am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot want to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is no inittab anymore? I am building a terminal server client for work.18:36
Wipsterif I am making a livecd and I need to run a customised kernel do I need to build it in the chroot or elsewhere? my cd size ends up huge18:36
ouyesmAriachi,  ok il try , i think you way will do18:36
ikoniaWipster: custom kernels are not supported18:36
mAriachiouyes: yep, it's the way I did it :D18:36
Wipsterikonia, yeh I know but is that how you would build it? its the process I'm having issue with18:37
ikoniaWipster: within the chrooot18:38
jophalanmm: find your files18:38
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?18:38
jophafk18:38
PorbsKShould I remove Kubuntu and install Ubuntu ? I'm having network probs with Kubuntu :(18:38
kudociao18:38
Wipsterikonia, ok thanks is there a way I can aptitude purge all modules installed to be able to compile the kernel once its done? or will I have to write them all down?18:39
ouyesmAriachi,  but i am wandering if there are any problem to have two kernels at the same time ?18:39
mAriachiporbsk: that will not solve your problems, they run on the same core, only the desktop is different, Kubuntu uses KDE desktop environment, Ubuntu uses GNOME18:39
alanmmjoph: nope :(18:39
ikoniaWipster: remove them manually18:39
alanmmjoph: i think this problem is more complex than i can handel18:39
jolaren23how do I ssh within the local area network?18:40
mAriachiouyes: none whatsoever, it's just to remove them if you think your grub menu is crowded18:40
mobidroidikonia: howww I think i understand what you mean, my grub config is not just the 4 lines on pastebin I only add those 4 lines all the mandriva config stuff is still there is this why you say there is missing stuff?18:40
alanmmjoph: i might get my work laptop "stolen" or "dropped accidentally" :/18:40
ikoniamobidroid: sounds good18:40
Wipsterikonia, ouch - ok thanks for your help I'l see how I get on18:40
ouyesin the gparted there is a manage flag, what is it ?18:40
ikoniaWipster: sorry18:40
Tm_Tjolaren23: "ssh computername" ?18:40
jolaren23hm ok will try that18:41
mAriachiporbsk: what kind of network problems are you experiencing?18:41
PorbsKSo is there3 no way to make PPPoE work and start my Net ? I remember ubuntu 8.10 being able to connect PPPoE with SLIP config without any extra need18:41
JJRhi room18:41
the_real_dave!hi | JJR18:41
ubottuJJR: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!18:41
ouyesmAriachi,  yep i delete some of the entries related to an old kernel in the grub file18:41
JJR")18:41
JJRgot a little problem here configurating my display....18:42
mAriachiporbsk: you need to edit the network connection, right click then properties on the network manager applet, then go to wired, and edit the credentials18:42
JJRanyone willning to help18:42
mAriachiJJR: just ask your question18:42
barfNoen i BIOS avdelingen her?18:42
barfJeg har en PC som er helt ny18:42
alanmmPorbsK: i had problem with kubuntu before with the network and it worked fine with the same ubuntu but without the k :)18:42
JJRwell when i open "configure display" meny is empty18:43
barfDen kan kun boote fra SATA HDD og IDE CDROM, jeg prøver å boote den fra Memory Stick, og SATA CDROM men det funker ikke18:43
JJRalso in my x11.conf file there is nothing18:43
mAriachiJJR: have you installed the drivers?18:43
zobbarf think you should ask norwegian or danish questions in corresponding forums18:43
alanmmbarf: ta det på svenska / dansk / norsk kanalen18:43
ADjameswhats a good open source software to monitor a server's hardware load from a windows machine on an offsite location?18:43
JJRwell i have intel 4500m card and as far as i know drivers came w/ karnell18:43
alanmmbarf: danks i gues18:43
PorbsKI did all things I confiugre DSL settings in Kubuntu then configured KPPP too but it just don't find the network18:44
JJRim w/ 2.6.30.918:44
mAriachiJJR: go to system, then to Hardware drivers, and see whether or not you have some drivers to install18:44
JJRwell18:44
alanmm#ubuntu.dk18:44
mAriachiporbsk: write the nickname of the person you are reffering to first18:44
JJRit says that i have everything18:44
mAriachiJJR: write the nickname before anything else18:44
alanmmPorbsK: it's plugged in? ;)18:44
mAriachiJJR: what kind of graphics card do you have?18:45
Ferris-is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to karmic like i did intrepid to jaunty last night?18:45
JJRintel 4500m18:45
alanmmjoph: i am screwed then right?18:45
PorbsKI m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable18:45
e3coI would like to know how to modify upstart so that instead of the user seeing a login: prompt my script is automatically loaded (rrdesktop)(revisedrdesktop) and the user is brought off a live cd to my terminal server.18:46
PorbsKalanmm: I m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable18:46
jolaren23is it possible to scan ssh within lan?18:46
JJRmAriachi : i have intel 4500m18:46
mobidroidikonia: just to be sure before i reboot can you double check my grub conf: http://pastebin.fr/664318:46
alanmmPorbsK: like, look at the cable.. is it connected to the computer or not? :)18:46
mAriachiferris- yes there is: sudo update-manager -d18:46
LuizAquinoHi everyone. Does Ubuntu comes, by default, with some GUI tools to see our hardware? Before Ubuntu 8.04 I used gnome-device-manager.18:46
ouyesi can copy files to an ext4 external hard disk18:47
PorbsKYes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows18:47
Ferris-thank you mAriachi18:47
ouyesi can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk18:47
alanmmomg i am so dead on monday.. trashed my linux computer which isn't supposed to be possible according it internal it18:47
ouyesi can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why?18:47
alanmmHOW CAN THIS HAPPPEN?18:47
mAriachiJJR: open terminal, sudo apt-get install xsever-xorg-intel-video18:47
PorbsKalanmm:Yes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows18:47
mAriachiferris: np18:47
JJRmariachi: ok18:47
paulus68how do I configure Irssi in order to auto connect to the server and for which user?18:48
jolaren23Does anyone know if it is possible to scan after ssh servers in my network?18:48
IdleOnepaulus68: #irssi should be able to help with that18:49
the_real_davejolaren23: scan to find all ssh servers, or just ping an IP?18:49
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ouyeshi does anybody know this?  i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why? also when you in that partition right click the mouser there is no creat folder option18:49
jolaren23the_real_dave; My htpc is setup with ssh but I don't know how to find it18:49
vitaHi18:49
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jophalanmm: i'm back18:50
PorbsKalanmm: I have 2 network devices one plugged with cable other is unused.they hsow up in Kubuntu eth0 and eth1 eth0 has an icon with cable in some box18:50
vitaI have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists18:50
mAriachiouyes: right click the drive and go to permissions, do you have read and write permissions? by you, i mean your user name18:50
e3colivecd question  / if I add a rc.local to /etc/skel/rc.local  will the live user "ubuntu" automatically run anything i put in there?18:50
paulus68IdleOne: thanks18:51
jophalanmm: your apt-get is still working right?18:51
the_real_davejolaren23: You should be able to go into your router's settings and find the local IP addresses. Try going to 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.0.1 in your browser18:51
ouyesmAriachi,  it says root18:51
vitaI guess that there is something more to configure. But I fail to find it. Any ideas?18:51
sunrunner20does ubuntu auto detect hardware changes each time at boot?18:51
sakthivelhi..my desktop doesnot connect internet after logout or suspend.. why18:51
ouyesmAriachi,  what can do with this?18:51
jolaren23the_real_dave; I have a switch18:51
mAriachiouyes: try with a different file browser from root18:51
the_real_daveouyes: post the output of sudo fdisk -l18:51
mAriachiouyes: sudo nautilus18:52
sunrunner20sakthivel: have you tried restarting the interface?18:52
berserk_renwhat's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}18:52
mkquistouyes: try opening nautilus with sudo and change the permissions18:52
sakthivelrestarting no problem ,, it will connect internet...18:52
sunrunner20or looking at ipconfig (or ifconfig i get them confused)18:52
mAriachiouyes: you need to take ownership of the drive and the files, in other words to change permissions, i dont quite remeber the command, gimme a sec18:52
JJRmAriachi: well it says "Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-intel-video"18:52
PorbsKSomeone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"18:52
sunrunner20sakthivel: not the whole machine, just the interface (or did you phrase that weirdly)18:53
DimitriusBoa tarde18:53
mAriachisudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel18:53
PorbsKI'll just restart and try and call it a day18:53
mAriachiJJR: try this then18:53
the_real_daveouyes: you want to use a command like sudo chmod -Rv 777 /media/xxx to change the permissions of your drive to be read by everyone18:53
berserk_renwhat's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}18:53
mAriachiJJR: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel18:53
sakthiveli think ubuntu doenot connect internet after logout and login18:54
DimitriusAlgum brasileiro?18:54
mAriachiouyes: that's the command, what the real dave said18:54
mAriachiouyes: but first try with nautilus18:54
JJRmAriachi :well i heve already the newest version of the drivers18:54
ouyesmAriachi, mkquist  the_real_dave  thanks18:54
vitaI have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists18:54
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Wind0painwhat's an ISO burner for ubuntu?18:54
PorbsK Someone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"18:55
LuizAquinoUbuntu 9.04 doesn't come with gnome-device-manager. Is there some another GUI tool, by default, to know our hardware?18:55
the_real_daveouyes: using nautilus as root will not solve the problem, the files copied there will then be owned by root. Its much better to use the above command to change the permissions and write the files as your user18:55
JJRmAriachi: i thing the problem i s in my x11-conf fire , when i open it it say only defout card defout monitor and not mine18:55
mAriachiJJR: don't know anything else you can do then, appart from downloading a custom xorg.cfg for you18:55
sakthivelnormally ubuntu is autodetecting internet when my computer. during logout and login it wil not resume18:55
berserk_renwhat's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.04 ?18:55
the_real_davejolaren23: I'm guessing you cant hook up a monitor?18:55
JJRmAriachi :ok thanks pall18:56
PorbsKThanks for all the help have a nice day :D18:56
jolaren23the_real_dave; I guess I could, would be easier the other way around thought.. but sure18:56
the_real_davejolaren23: if you can, use the command ifconfig to see your IP address, presuming your using linux that is18:56
mAriachiJJR: np dude, anytime18:56
azerty3hi ther18:57
LuizAquinoDimitrius: Yes, I am.18:57
JJRany one how to create custom x11.conf with mine graphic card,monitor, etc. ....?18:57
mAriachiazerty3: just post a question, dude18:57
mAriachiazerty3: hi18:57
DimitriusAlgum brasileiro ai?18:57
azerty3i need this pakage deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main for ubuntu 9.10 how to get it ?18:57
LuizAquinoDimitrius: Me! :)18:58
the_real_davejolaren23: you could try pinging all the addresses starting from 1?18:58
mAriachiazerty3: change the feisty-commercial with karmic18:58
the_real_davejolaren23: but that would be quite some effort18:58
vita I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists18:58
ouyesmAriachi,  your way is the easiest and also works thanks18:58
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mAriachiouyes: np dude, but i think you should consider changing the permissions, and taking ownership of the files :D18:59
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azerty3you mean this ? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic-commercial main18:59
chowderanyone try lucid? I'm having some problems with locales. I tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf but I get an error message saying that it isn't installed. I try to install localeconf but its not in the repos. Anyone else encounter this problem?18:59
LuizAquinoazerty3: You can add this repository in your list: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories18:59
mAriachiazerty3: exactly18:59
ouyesmAriachi,  but there is some warnings came out18:59
IdleOnechowder: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support18:59
zagabarANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE18:59
mAriachiouyes: right click the drive while in nautilus18:59
mAriachiouyes: go to properties19:00
berserk_renopen source driver doesnt help... nintendo DS emulator running games very slow T_T19:00
the_real_daveouyes: using sudo nautilus will not be persistant, you'll have to use that everytime. Your much better off to take ownership of the files19:00
mAriachiouyes: permisions19:00
ouyesmAriachi,  yes  i changed that ,by the porperties and its permission19:00
azerty3no not working19:00
mAriachiouyes: then change the permissions19:00
azerty3it give this E: Couldn't find package deb19:00
kvaps\join ubuntu-ru19:00
kvapsупс =)19:00
mAriachiazerty3: you need to add the package source in the software sources19:00
IdleOneazerty3: what are you trying to install?19:00
mAriachiazerty3: not in termianl19:00
azerty3LuizAquino:  doing it synaptics it give lots of result, i dont know what to choose ?19:01
azerty3i try to install freepbx19:01
ouyesmAriachi, i just specify the name of me instead root19:01
LuizAquinoazerty3: Just a minute...19:01
ouyesmAriachi,  is that changing the permission for ever?19:01
mAriachiouyes: your name should have read&write permissions19:01
LuizAquinoazerty3: See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto19:01
the_real_daveouyes: any files written after that will be owned by those who wrote them :)19:02
ouyesmAriachi,  never mind it is in a group, so he has the group's permission19:02
LuizAquinoazerty3: Another source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu19:02
Rubber_Bof19:02
Rubber_y a des francais ?19:03
IdleOne!fr | Rubber_19:03
ubottuRubber_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:03
ouyesthe_real_dave,  if i go to mount it on another pc?19:03
Rubber_bien ubottu19:03
ouyesthe_real_dave, even  if i go to mount it on another pc?19:03
mAriachiouyes: you will need to open nautilus again19:03
azerty3c'est super ubuntu19:03
mAriachiouyes: do the chmod in terminal19:03
Rubber_azerty arrete ...19:03
ouyesmAriachi,  ok19:04
azerty3thx a lot my friend LuizAquino19:04
Rubber_j arrive plus a rien l asp passe pas19:04
azerty3i understand it19:04
LuizAquinoazerty3: You're welcome. :)19:04
sunrunner20berserk_ren: DS emulation isn't exactly fast or good... period19:04
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the_real_daveouyes: Yup. If you wrote the file as one user, it stays as that user. Then again, you can always change the permissions from the other computer too19:04
e3conevermind .. I figured it out.19:05
Rubber_ubuntu  fr on fait commernt mon irc est plus a jour19:05
berserk_rensunrunner20, it's not specially DS, some other games is slow to... those with openGL =|19:05
ramirohow do I install a package to some other --prefix? (that would be the equivalent of "make DESTDIR=myprefix install"). I don't need any prerm or postinst to run, I just need the files the package gives me19:05
mAriachi!Македонија 4евер!19:05
Rubber_la commande19:05
IdleOneRubber_: tape /join Z#ubuntu-fr19:05
IdleOne-Z19:05
Rubber_idleone19:05
Rubber_te mon sauveur19:05
IdleOnede rien.19:05
berserk_renill try fglrx ...19:05
Rubber_Z ?19:06
Audiblewhats the "best" html editor in ubuntu current? dont answer vim or nano ;)19:06
IdleOnesans le Z19:06
Rubber_lool19:06
the_real_daveouyes: I would advise using chmod to recursively change the files to allow them to be accessed by anyone, if your using the drive one other computers19:06
ramiroAudible: kate19:06
Rubber_trop fort19:06
Rubber_un jour je serais enfant19:06
T-b0bAudible: quanta19:06
balain my linux sound s not coming... some 1 help me...19:06
berserk_renbala,  wich soundcard?19:06
ouyesthe_real_dave,  i did it already , thanks mate19:06
rafael_ok, i tried to patch modemmanager but i got the error permission denied19:07
vitaCould someone help me how to report bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ ? All I see is useless and confusing crap. In earlier version, there was button "Report bug," Not it is missing and I feel like in maze. Whenever I move to, I get nowhere.19:07
Agnulhi19:07
ouyesmAriachi,  thanks19:07
ramirobala: are the speakers powered on and plugged in to your computer?19:07
Rubber_ça passe pas19:07
mAriachiouyes: can you copy to and from the drive now?19:07
IdleOne!bug | vita19:07
ubottuvita: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots19:07
the_real_daveouyes: no worries :)19:07
mAriachiouyes: np, anytime19:07
vita!bug19:07
Rubber_le "/join ubuntu.fré19:07
Rubber_oups19:07
balayes ramiro19:07
IdleOneRubber_: /join #ubuntu-fr19:07
vitaIdleOne: thanks19:07
mAriachiRubber_: this is not a chat channel: please do not flood19:08
Rubber_idleone19:08
Rubber_je colle ta reponse19:08
balain windows sound is coming... ramiro19:08
ouyesmAriachi, i am copying  now19:08
erdemoztrkhello there19:08
erdemoztrkDoes anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?19:08
mAriachibala: which soundcard do you have?19:08
JJRhow properly to edint my x11.conf file accorting my confugoration...? anyone willling to help me19:08
Rubber_lool Idleone19:09
Rubber_personne mle calcule19:09
Rubber_la bas19:09
ouyesthe_real_dave, mAriachi ,how can i mount a ext4 in windows? i am worried somebody would see my ext4 partition19:09
balai dont know... how to check it??? mariachi19:09
Rubber_J aurais du faire englais19:09
rafael_i tried to patch modem manager but i got permission denied error19:09
ramiroouyes: anyone with physical acces to your computer cn see your ext4 partition19:09
mAriachiouyes: dont think that it is possible, maybe with some update to windows19:10
mAriachibala: aplay -l in a termnial19:10
erdemoztrkDoes anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?19:10
Rubber_CE KOI FREENODE ?19:10
mAriachikick Rubber_ please19:10
ramiroouyes: unless you encrypt your files, there's no way to prevent someone with physical access to your computer to read everything you have. the only way is to make sure that person is dumb and incapable of googling =)19:10
ardchoille!french | Rubber_19:11
ubottuRubber_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:11
ouyesramiro,  but you insert the hd under windows ,it is not be found or recognized by the OS19:11
Rubber_mariachi on taqime l aim espingouin19:11
IdleOnemAriachi: why?19:11
the_real_daveouyes: you cant. You can mount ext3 in Windows, but its much safer to use NTFS on your external harddrive, Linux plays much nicer with NTFS than WIndows does with ext ;)19:11
Rubber_l ami19:11
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greenjellowhellow19:11
Rubber_ubottu ce l enbfer la bas19:11
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:11
ardchoilleRubber_:  ce channelis anglais seulement. S'il vous plaît aller à # ubuntu-fr19:11
mAriachiIdleOne: flooding and speaking french on an english channel19:11
greenjellowhello?19:11
IdleOneRubber_: svp, parle en anglais dans ce canal.19:12
mAriachigreenjellow: just state your issue dude :D19:12
greenjellowcool :)19:12
IdleOnemAriachi: he is having issues joining the french channel.19:12
Rubber_i ll bze back idleone19:12
ramiroouyes: so? the files are there anyways. even using a hex editor you will be able to see them. more sophysticated programs will be able to mount it on windows just like another drive19:12
greenjellowit's with the ps319:12
akaeduxubuntu19:12
greenjellowubuntu19:12
mAriachigreenjellow: spare the pleasantries xD19:12
ouyesthe_real_dave,  no mate ,most of my personal time i am under ubuntu19:12
greenjellowpetitboote freezes when i boot linux19:13
greyI kinda deleted my boot sector my laptop... Is there a way to kind of make a live CD only to install GRUB?19:13
greenjellowno idea why i think it has to do with the kernel19:13
ouyesramiro,  i see ,truecrypt19:13
balamariachi... card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]19:13
bala  Subdevices: 1/119:13
bala  Subdevice #0: subdevice #019:13
balacard 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]19:13
bala  Subdevices: 1/119:13
bala  Subdevice #0: subdevice #019:13
mAriachigreenjellow: dont have alot of experience on the subject19:13
FloodBot4bala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:13
mAriachibala so it's an intel19:13
ZykoticK9anyone gotton firefox-3.6 from the Mozilla PPA to work in the last 2 days?19:13
balayup19:13
mAriachibala: have you installed the restricted extras?19:13
ouyesramiro,  the_real_dave  il use truecrypt to encrypt sensitive data19:13
greenjellowo ok19:13
balano19:14
ramiroouyes: I've never used truecrypt, but if that does what the name says, it should be ok =)19:14
mAriachibala: do this in a terminal19:14
Rubber_y a un salon en francais ?19:14
balak19:14
mAriachibala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu_restricted_extras19:14
akaeduhow can let xubuntu mount wind disk , start up19:14
mAriachibala: sry19:14
the_real_daveouyes: ok. It is easier though to change it to NTFS when the drive is empty then full though ;) As for what's being said about access to your data, yes, all users can access it, but its an external drive so that's pretty much what you want. Truecrypt is a good idea for sensitive stuff, its good :) But either way, WIndows cant read ext lol :D19:14
ouyesramiro,  what do you use to protect your data19:14
IdleOneRubber_: oui. #ubuntu-fr19:14
mAriachibala: mistake19:14
Rubber_Idleone j ai essayé19:14
mAriachibala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras19:14
balawat mistake??19:15
ramiroouyes: I don't protect any of it...19:15
balakk19:15
Rubber_y a 6 clampins19:15
mAriachiouyes:19:15
Rubber_pire que sur bds19:15
sakthivelanybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend ..19:15
mAriachiouyes: do you use the drive on windows and linux comps?19:15
mAriachiouyes: if so, i would suggest making it an NTFS type19:16
macman_guys i have a quewtion .. so im using one of those ide to usb things right .. it has sata everything on it .. when i plug it in ubuntu it dosen't get recognized .. if i reboot and boot into windows it recognizes .. so short story why does my hdd's work in windows and not ubuntu19:16
greenjellowis there  way to update the kernel automatically19:16
joshuahello19:16
danehey19:16
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the_real_dave!hi | joshua dane19:16
ubottujoshua dane: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!19:16
mAriachigreenjellow: the update manager will inform you if there is a new kernel19:16
ouyesmAriachi,  yes i divide the hard drive into two partitions one is ntfs one is ext4 hoping ext4 would not be seen under windows and so protect my data19:16
Talon_Ubuntu 9.10 is not finding all my SATA drives.19:16
greenjellowok19:17
sakthivel anybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend .19:17
greenjellowthanks19:17
mAriachiouyes: good move, if you dont need the partition ext4 under windows19:17
the_real_davesakthivel: A wireless connection? If so, probably Network-Manager's fault19:17
sakthiveli am using ethernet connection19:17
mAriachisakthivel: just unplug and plug your cable and it should be fine19:18
sshcsvn: command not found19:18
sshcI install the svn package19:18
mAriachi hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?19:18
greenjellowi fixed the problem mAriacchi :) thanks19:18
IdleOne!register | Rubber_19:18
ubottuRubber_: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode19:18
iokaguys would you please tell me how do I cp a directory19:18
sakthiveli tried unplug  no use,, only restart or powerof only working19:19
the_real_daveouyes: I would depend on the fact that ext4 cant be read n WIndow to protect your data. If someone wants to get to it, there are ways around it probably. They could always just hook it up to a linux pc and have full control. Truecrypt though will actually encrypt your data and protect it19:19
Dwight1I'm new. Does anybody know how to install w_scan-20091230 on 9.10? the one in synaptic is out of date and doesn't work properly.19:19
sshcwhat do I need to install in order to use the svn command?19:19
infidsvn19:19
Talon_I have 3 sata drives plugged into my motherboard, two of which are burners.. one is a hard drive.. windows see's them all.. ubuntu 9.10 just sees the burners, any clue why?19:19
sshcinfid: I did install svn19:19
infidsshc from apache you need to apt get libapache2-svn too19:20
sshcinfid: ok, thanks!19:20
mAriachiTalon_: it sees the hard drive aswell, dont worry, if you cant access it, then it is probably not mounted, install pysdm to help you19:20
ouyesthe_real_dave,  there is few people around me(in my life cycle or work place) using linux19:20
mAriachiouyes: dont worry about encrypting when you have ext419:21
Talon_its not a /dev/sd choice... I can't mount it with mount cause its not there19:21
Talon_i got /sda and /sdb which are my two ide drives19:21
Talon_thats it19:21
the_real_daveioka: use the recursive option, -R19:21
mAriachitalon_: sda is the first drive19:21
mAriachitalon_: sdb is the second19:22
infidon my host i changed 'PasswordAuthentication' and 'UsePAM' to 'no' in sshd_config to disable password logins from clients, which works, but now i can't ssh FROM my host to other places anymore. any idea why? it says 'permission denied (publickey,password)'19:22
Talon_i should have a sdc19:22
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Talon_but its not there19:22
VanDykecan anyone here read chinese? if so, plz /msg me19:22
apandai'd like to use ubuntu on an old amd k6-2/400 mhz but i cant find out which versions still support that. the newer one's dont because the new linux kernels dont support that processor any longer. i have tried 8.04 ubuntu and xubuntu live with no success19:22
mAriachitalon_: you have 3 hard drives?19:22
ouyesmAriachi,  the_real_dave , and i installed ubuntu to my TF card and i am runing it. ubuntu is amazing19:22
Talon_yes19:22
the_real_daveouyes: fair enough, just so long as your aware that it won't protect your data from anyone determined enough ;) TF card?19:22
VanDykeapanda, get an older version, probably 6.-ish19:23
mAriachiouyes: good job dude! if you want to use it properly, you need to apply more usable space while creating it19:23
Talon_two ide drives, which are both recognised, and 3 sata drives, 1 hdd and two dvd burners19:23
apandayeah VanDyke i've tried to get 6.x but i couldnt find a desktop iso of that one any longer because its no longer supported ;)19:23
Talon_everythings found but my sata hdd19:23
mAriachitalon_: try reconnecting19:23
mAriachitalon_: and installing pysdm19:24
ouyesthe_real_dave,  yes a 8GB TF card( a usb storge micro sd)19:24
sakthivelwhich is best linux ubuntu/suse/debian or etc19:24
Talon_what is pysdm19:24
philipwnhow to find which process is using my soundcard?19:24
infidsakthivel: this isn't politics, there is no best19:24
chuckfsakthivel: you'll get a biased answer here19:24
apandalies, the best is etc19:24
VanDykeapanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.2/19:24
mAriachisakthivel: get your info right, ubuntu is based on debian :D19:24
VanDykeit's the server LTS, but works just as well19:24
Talon_pysdm installed19:24
apandaVanDyke, thanks but thats server only 6.x :)19:25
the_real_daveouyes: Lol nice one :) Enjoy learning more Ubuntu :D19:25
osotogariAnyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?19:25
mAriachitalon_: now run it in terminal, sudo pysdm19:25
ouyesmAriachi,  the_real_dave  i installed everything that i need,and it work as fine as it were installed in the hard driver19:25
VanDykeapanda, but it works just the same19:25
mAriachiouyes: yep, ubuntu rocks :D19:25
Talon_shows sda, and sdb, no sdc19:25
zakazaka19:25
apandaah ok VanDyke, but it's no live cd, right?19:25
matan_hi all19:26
salathey...why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html19:26
VanDykeapanda, no19:26
alienjeffo/ matan_19:26
VanDykeapanda, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso19:26
the_real_daveouyes: the one thing to be aware of is your swap partition. Seeing as that's a flash drive, with a limited number of read and writes, having your swap on the flash card can lower its life span19:26
apandawee :) thanks VanDyke :D19:26
VanDykethat's a live cd19:26
mAriachitalon_: is your SATA hard drive connected properly? if so, try disconecting one of the burners and conencting the hard drive to the burners cable19:26
matan_yes?19:27
Talon_yes, windows sees the drive just fine19:27
houmshas anyone used FOG on ubuntu before?19:27
matan_i have problem with gamepad19:27
rafael_how long does it takes to apply a patch?19:27
mAriachirafael_ depends on your conf, and bandwidth19:28
houmsor better question does anyone know php pretty well?19:28
Talon_i know its there and works fine, windows sees it, i can play my music its my music drive, i boot linux.. its gone19:28
ouyesthe_real_dave,  but also i can not delete the swap partition19:28
mAriachiouyes: dont do that19:28
infidhomus what about php19:28
rafael_mAriachi so, it's normal for it to take like half hour o more?19:28
mAriachiouyes: it'll be fine with the swap19:29
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salatsomeone with network knowledge please query me=C19:29
mAriachirafael_ if you have a slow bandwidth, yes19:29
houmsi installed fog and when i go to upload image it goes hrough process but then throughs a cannot move and references a php file19:29
infidsalat im sure everyone in here has network knowledge19:29
sakthiveli am a new ubuntu user.. i am using both windwos and ubuntu.. i feel ubuntu gnome disply graphics is not so good compare to windows.. if i install kde.. my system is going very slow..19:29
ouyesthe_real_dave, but the system hardly use the swap space a few Mb19:29
houmsi have looked at the file and line reference and see what it is referencing but have no way of know how to fix it19:29
salatinfid..but they dont answer=C19:30
Talon_ive removed dmraid, rebooted, not there, re-installed dmraid, rebooted, not there... no matter what linux doesnt see it.. it didnt even see it on the livecd19:30
mAriachisakthivel: you need to install compiz config to get the most out of gnome19:30
ouyesmAriachi, yep, it is a little slow than that installed in the hd19:30
mAriachisakthivel: KDE is alot more memory hungry19:30
the_real_daveouyes: even a few Mb is still accessing the drive. You'll probably be fine, you'll break/lose/wipe Ubuntu off the card before you reach the maximum number of read-writes l)19:31
rafael_mAriachi is it normal for the terminal to not give any outputs when i put the patch command?19:31
sakthivelcompiz is not working my pc19:31
mAriachisakthivel: if you want a simple, fast and not memory hogging, install xfce19:31
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salatwhy does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html19:31
mAriachirafael_: patch for what?19:31
rafael_for modem manager19:31
mAriachisakthivel: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop19:32
sakthivelok.. but i like gnome.. can i get any themes to change my desktop graphics19:32
mAriachisakthivel: yep, gazillions of them19:32
mAriachijust google for themes19:32
ouyesthe_real_dave,  how many time does i have before it is damaged?19:32
newguy2010OK I am a serious noob here...yesterday I was using Linux Mint Helena and adoobe acrobat player worked fine.  Today I am using straight ubuntu 9.10 and cannot get my cd to play in  adobe player any suggestions?19:33
houmsthe file references line 13319:33
mAriachiouyes: dont worry about damaging, the swap will only be used if theres not enough RAM on your pc, so your fine19:33
sakthiveli feel my desktop ubuntu doestnot support grphics. how do i install driver for grahics19:33
the_real_davesakthivel: you might just need certain drivers. what graphics card have you?19:33
houmsand its http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/361470/19:33
houmsgreping for srcdd in that same file produces two lines19:33
sakthivelmy desktop is ibm duron 85019:33
newguy2010Help with Ubuntu 9.10 and adobe plyer19:33
houmsthe one seen on line 133 and this one19:33
houms$srcdd = $uploaddir . $mac;19:33
ouyesmAriachi,  i agree with you ,but it seems we are wrong19:34
sakthivelamd process19:34
rafael_mAriachi patch for modem manager19:34
the_real_daveouyes: millions mate, don't worry about it :) You'll be fine,19:34
mAriachisakthivel: you should deffinetly consider xfce desktop19:34
mAriachisakthivel: its great for older conf19:34
sakthivelok19:34
the_real_daveouyes: it was much more lethal with older flash drives19:34
the_real_davesakthivel: for a very light Ubuntu based distro, try Crunchbang. Faster and Lighter than Xubuntu19:35
sakthivelwhere can i find the driver for IBM amd  duron 850 system19:35
mAriachiouyes: dont worry, i am still using an MMC from my first phone, i have ubuntu 9.10 on it, never gave me a problem, these things are bulletproof19:35
Talon_any ideas why windows sees the drive and linux cant19:35
the_real_davesakthivel: go to system > administration > restricted drivers.19:35
mAriachiouyes: one of the reasons why they come with a 5 or more year guarantee19:35
zagabar3~19:35
Rubber_i m french19:36
sakthivelok what abt Crunchbang is it also ubuntu19:36
the_real_davesakthivel: that will show if you need drivers or not19:36
mAriachisakthivel: or try puppy linux, dely linux or other small distro's19:36
salatwhy does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html19:36
ouyesmAriachi,  yep but i already lost the guarantee paper19:36
zagabarANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE19:36
the_real_davesakthivel: YUp, Crunchbang is UBuntu, just uses the much lighter and faster Openbox Window Manager19:36
holm_was19:36
mAriachisakthivel: but to do that, you'll need a complete reinstall, try first going to xfce, do this, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop19:36
the_real_daveouyes: and you'll lose the memory card before you run out of read-write cycles ;)19:37
brontosaurusrexwhats the prefered way to turn xubuntu into ubuntu?, clean one?19:37
mAriachiouyes: dont worry about damaging, believe me19:37
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: what release?19:37
brontosaurusrexthe_real_dave: 9.1019:37
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: just install the gnome desktop19:37
mplabsHello guys !19:38
onetinsoldierhi19:38
mAriachi!hi mplabs19:38
mplabsHow are you all ?19:38
mAriachimplabs !hi19:38
sakthiveli havent find restricted drivers from admin19:38
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: install ubuntu-desktop to get all the gnome programs, and ill get you a script in a sec to completely remove xfce19:38
mplabsI have some problem with my Ubuntu19:38
usuarioesto k ess??19:38
usuarioesta en ingless adioss19:38
mAriachimplabs: just state your issue :D19:39
usuario_hello19:39
* Talon_ strangles ubuntu19:39
brontosaurusrexthe_real_dave: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?19:39
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apandais there a way to boot the 8.04 live cd with a 2.4 kernel? is one included there?19:39
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: exactly19:39
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: well, you'll need to use sudo like19:39
usuario_how are you19:39
ouyesthe_real_dave,  mAriachi i do not worry i would lost the card, i care for the time, if for 3 year i lost it, i think it deserves19:39
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: this is not the preffered way, but it is the fastest :D19:40
the_real_daveouyes: I don't quite understand you mate....19:40
mAriachiouyes: right you are19:40
mplabsI was trying to solve some problem with my... nvidia driver ? xorg.conf file ? I don't know, the fact is that now I'm on xfce but I use KDE, I don't know why but I can't enter to KDE19:40
brontosaurusrexmAriachi: and the prefered way is?19:40
Talon_could it be the sata controller on my motherboard isn't supported fully in ubuntu? but then why would it see the burners and not the harddrive..19:41
mAriachithe_real_dave: he's refering to his flash drive, if it's gone in 3 years, that's enough19:41
mplabsI mean.. it's not in my list19:41
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: a complete reinstall from scratch19:41
rafael_do i need internet connection to apply a patch if i already have the source and the patch?19:41
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: Here's the link for the command to completely remove xubuntu leaving just gnome http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome19:41
mplabsjust default, xface and failsafe session is in the list19:41
mplabs:S19:41
ouyesthe_real_dave,  i care about how long i can use it under ubuntu , if it is a long time ,why bother its damage? it is worth that19:41
jolaren23Does anyone know if the Spotify plugin works with xbmc-live yet?19:42
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: i would suggest that19:42
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: you may want to use sudo apt-get purge to remove all config files, your choice19:42
ouyesmAriachi,  are you a native speaker of english?19:42
brontosaurusrexthe_real_dave: thanks, but the reinstall is the best possible way?19:42
mAriachiouyes: no, why do you ask?19:42
the_real_daveouyes: Ah ok mate19:42
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: yes, yes it is :D19:42
brontosaurusrexok, so if i reinstall, should i go with lucid or karmic?19:43
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: apt-get purge will remove it just as clean as a re-install19:43
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: karmic19:43
ouyesmAriachi, nothing, you get a good comperihension19:43
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: so not necessarily better19:43
brontosaurusrexok :)19:43
mplabshow is the name of the kde package in the sources list ? I will reinstall it19:43
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: it's easier not to19:43
the_real_davemplabs: kubuntu-desktop will install the KDE desktop19:44
mAriachiouyes: tnx, i'm from macedonia, i study languages, plan on to make a living out of it19:44
ChibaPetHey all! Today's question: If I hit the wireless kill switch on my laptop, it... works. Is there, however, a way to re-enable the radio without rebooting?19:44
simon__as a translator?19:44
keshavEmpathy or Pidgin?19:45
mAriachisimon_ are you refering to me?19:45
brontosaurusrexok, lets see, ill do install ubuntu-desktop and that xubuntu remover, then if it fails, ill reinstall ;)19:45
mAriachisimon_: type the nickname before anything else19:45
the_real_davekeshav: I prefer pidgin :)19:45
ChibaPetI see in syslog: NetworkManager: <info> Wireless now disabled by radio killswitch19:45
mAriachibrontosaurusrex: excellent compromise xd :D19:45
ChibaPetWondering how to accomplish the reverse of that.19:45
Rubber_Idleone nous a abandonné19:45
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: lol ok :) be aware that the ubuntu-desktop package is quite big :)19:45
simon__what nicknameẞ19:45
sakthivelpidgin support voice and vido chat?19:46
brontosaurusrexshould be here in 3 minutes, 800 megs19:46
mAriachisimon_: of who you are referring to19:46
simon__you19:46
mAriachisakthivel: nope, pidgin sucks at that19:46
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: and think about using apt-get purge, which will delete all the configs as well :)19:46
mplabsI think I need to reinstall some packages (or reconfigure) to make again the list of available sessions19:46
mAriachisimon_: then write my nickname before anything else19:46
brontosaurusrexthe_real_dave: /etc configs or user configs?19:46
ouyesmAriachi,  the_real_dave  i am leaving now for sleep, goodday and thanks for your help .bye19:46
keshavthe_real_dave, I think Pidgin is cool, but Empathy takes the crown - voice chat! Not sure if Pidgin has that19:47
FreddyHayekis this working?19:47
mAriachiouyes:np dude, anytime, anywhere19:47
ChibaPetFreddy, yes.19:47
mAriachiouyes: cya19:47
FreddyHayekty19:47
Talon_do you think i can get my drive visible if I tried another distro? say SuSE for example...19:47
sakthivelcan i use evolution mail for yahoo..19:47
berserk_rendammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy19:47
the_real_davebrontosaurusrex: program configs, things in /etc as far as I know. Could be worth googling first :)19:47
sakthivelis it support yahoo19:47
ChibaPetAnyone know of a channel where folks might know about this wireless kill switch issue? Been ages since I've IRC'd.19:47
simon__mAriachi: like this?19:47
ubuntuim runing ubuntu 9.10 and my video card is turning off19:47
the_real_daveouyes: Night mate :D19:47
BesogonTalon_, yes you can19:47
jawtf19:47
yrlnryWhen I plug my digital camera into the USB port on my Ubuntu laptop, the camera device appears on the desktop and I can open it like a folder.  But there is nothing in the folder.  Why can't I see my pictures?19:47
mAriachisimon_: yep, exactly19:47
mAriachisimon_ :D19:48
macosakthivel: if you've paid yahoo to let you have pop/imap access, sure. evolution supports standard protocols19:48
brontosaurusrexthe_real_dave: ok, thanks19:48
carolinaportugues pt br19:48
the_real_davekeshav: I never use video chat, I've terrible bandwidth. I just prefer pidgin's UI :D19:48
Talon_its a shame, i kinda like ubuntu tho :/19:48
sakthivelevolution support gmail?19:48
ubuntuyes19:48
keshavthe_real_dave yeah, it looks more mature19:48
ChibaPetI need mailing lists, I guess. I should figure out if I'm sticking with Ubuntu or trying CentOS and then subscribe to something. :P19:49
the_real_davesakthivel: I presume so, gmail supprts pop right?19:49
berserk_rendammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy19:49
ChibaPetLater all.19:49
Talon_how can i check to see if ubuntu even recognizes all four possible sata ports?19:49
keshavsakthivel Yes, gmail supports both pop3 and imap19:49
FreddyHayekany way to make teh font larger? I don't mean I just want to shout at y'all. I want to read what you say without my nose on the monitor.19:49
mAriachiALL: good night y'all, cya tomorrow19:50
Rubber_j en ai assez19:50
the_real_davemAriachi: Night mate :D19:50
BesogonTalon_, sudo fdisk -l Should show you all drives and partitions19:50
Rubber_ve rebrancher mon dd win19:50
simon__good night19:50
nenesalguien que entienda español?19:50
Ferris-heh. FreddyHayek. There is a way, ive seen it >_>19:51
Rubber_Idleone il est ou ?19:51
marcuyyo entiendo19:51
the_real_daveTalon_: it doesn't make sense that it would recognise the dvd drives and not the hdd if they're both connected to the same controller. could be worth taking a look in your BIOS19:51
marcuyque pasó nenes ?19:51
Rubber_marcury eqsta solo19:52
FreddyHayekFerris, thanks. If you can recall some hint?19:52
Rubber_esta19:52
Rubber_oups19:52
marcuyops19:52
Rubber_da19:52
berserk_rendammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy19:52
Rubber_bersek j ai vomi19:52
marcuyque decis Rubber_ ?19:52
Talon_the_real_dave: my thoughts exactly.. but windows sees it fine. I looked in bios and bios sees them fine and all of the hdd's have the same preferences in the bios19:53
Rubber_marcury jy sois frog man19:53
the_real_daveTalon_: I presume fdisk -l shows nothing?19:53
Talon_just two drives19:53
Talon_the two on the IDE controller19:53
Rubber_qui pour m apprendre l anglais ?19:54
the_real_daveTalon_: You have IDE disk drives and sata hdds? Are they all connected to the mobo?19:54
Talon_yes, two ide drives on the ide controller, three sata drives on the sata controller, two of which are dvd burners that linux recognizes19:55
chilifingerhow can you get a windows class name?19:55
Rubber_Ce mieux Windows19:55
the_real_daveTalon_: hmmm, that makes no sense. I'm of no help mate, sorry :(19:55
sakthiveli tried evlotion mail fro gmail.. folllowingerror accured during send recieve.. Error while Sending message.19:55
sakthivelMAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at19:55
sakthivelhttp://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.4319:55
jribchilifinger: xprop19:56
Talon_its gotta be a bug, because its completely there and acessable if i boot winxp19:56
chilifingerjrib: thanks19:56
sakthivelMAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at19:56
sakthivelhttp://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.4319:56
mazda01_trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.19:57
sakthivelhow to connect evolution mail for gmail account.. i tried error message19:57
Talon_ok the hdd connected to the SATA controller is actually an IDE drive with a IDE 2 SATA controller conntected to it, could that be the issue?19:58
Talon_and if so, why does windows handle it and linux doesnt19:58
Talon_could linux be assuming its sata2 when in actuallity i think those converter boxes for ide drives are sata1?19:59
zob_Hi. Does anyone know if MONO can somehow control USB midi??? MONO as in f-spot and rhythmbox that is!19:59
infidSlart: you there?20:00
Slartinfid: sure20:00
Slartinfid: what's up?20:00
apipkin1i'm having a problem with 9.10. I clicked to remove the speaker from the top panel. now the panels keep reloading. i can't alt+f2 at all and rebooting is almost impossible20:00
infidslart cool, did you use gnome-terminal last night when you did the ssh -X stuff?20:00
Slartinfid: yes, why?20:00
thevishywhat is the best way to add a old linux parition to my ubuntu filesystem20:01
FreddyHayekOh well. I'll just have put up with the tiny font. I'm growing very frustrated with the idiot-proofing in the flavors of linuks (I'm missing 3 characters - so my spelling is creative :)) . There are no idiots that will log into my system. (You there, snickering, STFU). Is there some way to set up a partition so that whoever or whatever writes to it any user booting in any OS, can read, write and eksecute it? I have one drive set up with two installations of U20:01
Slartthevishy: if you just want to access the data just put it in the fstab20:01
apipkin1i think compiz is in an infinite loop :/20:01
infidslart im still trying to get it working. ive been using gnome terminal. sometimes some gui apps like gvim or gnome-chess will run but their gui's wont run, instead they run inside the terminal as console versions20:01
Slartinfid: do you have the DISPLY enviroment variable set?20:01
infidslart: and i even tried disabling passwordless logins and keys and went back to default sshd_config but i still get the same errors20:01
jribFreddyHayek: font size?  System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts.  As for permissions, see ubottu20:02
Slartinfid: sorry.. DISPLAY20:02
jrib!permissions > FreddyHayek20:02
ubottuFreddyHayek, please see my private message20:02
infidSlart: yeah i've always had DISPLAY set20:02
infidSlart it's set to localhost:10.020:02
Slartinfid: hmm.. mine is just set to :0.0  no localhost20:02
infidslart ok i just got some progress20:02
infidslart i tried ssh -X'ing FROm the host to the client this time and it works when i run gui apps!20:03
Slartinfid: try adding that before your command....   DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -X bla bla bla20:03
thevishynot just the data i want to merge it as I have less diskspace20:03
infidslart: my client is a laptop, maybe thats why?20:03
thevishyi want to resize the filesystem and include the other linux parition20:03
Slartinfid: shouldn't be a difference between laptops and regular desktops when it comes to this stuff20:03
Talon_I'm going to try something, since i upgraded my pc to a motherboard with enough sata ports on it, i didn't need my old PCI sata raid controller, but the drive was found on that old pci card on my old machine in Ubuntu 9.10. I'm going to put that card back in and see if linux finds the drive on that controller.. be back with an update in 10 mins or so20:03
infidslart well even on the working computer it says localhost:10.0, and all tutorials say that's what the offset should be20:03
Slartthevishy: oh.. do you want the data? or it's empty?20:04
Slartinfid: why 10.0 ? you're running more than one X server?20:04
thevishyI dont want the data , it is a broken linux mint installation20:04
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Slartthevishy: boot from a live cd.. use gparted.. remove the mint partition.. resize some other partition that's next to it... that should work alright.. but always make backups.. things can get nasty if you get a power failure or something like that20:05
infidslart no. idk why it's that. it just is by default. if you look in sshd_config it shows X11DisplayOffset 1020:05
DoGuKaNhi20:05
DoGuKaNDo you have moblock using??20:05
thevishyright I will try that , its a laptop so no power issue I hope but yes i will keep that in mind thanks20:05
FreddyHayekjrib, I guess that "!" nomenclature elicited the ot message. Thanks. I'll ollk at it but I've goggled permissions already and spent a lot of time reading the results. I can screw with individual files easily. What I want is to change the way the permissions default so to speak. I want any files written to a particular partition to AUTOMATICALLY have permissions for anyone to do anything with. Not to have to change them one at a time.20:06
shane2peruok, when I start up evolution, it just goes to a dark window, and refuses to respond to anything!  Any ideas???20:06
jribFreddyHayek: do you have more than one user on your system?20:06
Slartinfid: ha.. you're absolutely right.. it says localhost:10.0 on my system too.. I just looked at a regular gnome-terminal.. not through ssh20:06
Gaming4JChey all, how would I go about submitting a bug for a game called PenguPop? They don't have their own bug tracker and it's in the repos soo...20:06
lianimatoris there a way to take a photo from a webcam from the terminal?20:07
infidslart the only thing about this laptop (the machine that it wont work FROM, but works TO) is that it's ubuntu 9.10 as an upgrade from jaunty. so maybe something got mangled somewhere20:07
ViridianFireCan anyone help me get my headphone jack to work?20:07
Loshainfid: the 10 is basically arbitrary. It's just chosen so it won't clash with any other local screens you might have....20:07
Slartinfid: it's possible.. upgrades can be a bit tricky20:07
infidslart but the ssh config files are identical20:07
Slartinfid: perhaps it's not ssh that's being naughty.. perhaps it's X20:08
FreddyHayekjrib Technically, yes. I have different user names on the two seperate installations. They are both me but the machine doesn't know that.20:08
infidslart yeah probably20:08
Gaming4JCViridianFire: Have you been to Sound Preferences >> Input/Output? That has information on your headphones and the connector can be selected from there as well20:08
jribFreddyHayek: what filesystem is the partition in question?20:08
ViridianFireyeah i have been there20:09
Gaming4JCI'm not sure if this bug really needs to be in launchpad since they don't have a category for it there... hmm20:09
infidlosha ok i'll make a note of that thanks20:09
Gaming4JC!sound20:10
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:10
ViridianFireok thanks20:10
ViridianFireIll try those things20:10
Gaming4JCnp. :)20:10
FreddyHayekjrib, FAT (presumaly 32, Ubuntu just calls it FAT, Which, to me means FAT12, but I can't believe that). I also have one et3 data partition that seems to work the same way. I gave up on et4.20:11
jribFreddyHayek: what partition are you talking about now?  FAT doesn't store permissions so those get decided at mount time20:11
ViridianFirewait what volume control?20:11
ViridianFireI double clicked the one on the task bar and nothing happened20:12
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Gaming4JCViridianFire: System>>Preferences>>Sound20:13
Johnny_425Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light doesn't come on. I have a dell keyboard. Please Help20:13
ViridianFireI dont have an alsa mixer option20:13
Gaming4JChmm20:14
titan_arksound problems?20:14
titan_arksame here :(20:14
OerHeksViridianFire terminal > alsamixer20:14
titan_arkcant get my mic to work20:14
doritois there any msn clone for linux that supports webcam feature?20:15
ubuntuwich channel is ubuntu jam going to be on20:15
doritoas well as microphone20:15
FreddyHayekjrib, I'm talking about the FAT. I picked it specifically for that freason bcause I couldn't get es4 partitions to even consistently give access to the partiton let alone the files on it. If I can't get the perms to default the way I want 'em, maybe I could run some sort of script that would reset all perms on all files in a given partition, all the way down thru the subdirectories, sort of like a GLObAL command in a 4DOS batch file?20:15
shane2perucan someone recommend a decent replacment for Rhythmbox?   What would you use for an all around music player? I don't need nothing fancy.20:15
jribFreddyHayek: like I said, FAT doesn't store permissions.  Just mount it with the right options20:16
iokaguys how can I see all the running processes ?20:16
iokaps -a?20:16
jrib!fat > FreddyHayek20:16
ubottuFreddyHayek, please see my private message20:16
iokait does not show one of them20:16
Gaming4JCshane2peru: mplayer, mpoc, quite a few basic ones. Media Player Classic is also a fav. :)20:16
iokawhat should I do?20:16
guntbertioka: ps aux20:16
guntbertioka: without -20:16
iokaok guntbert I'll try20:16
shane2peruGaming4JC, I would like a decent GUI interface20:16
Gaming4JCshane2peru: hmm, WinAmp under wine? lol jk20:17
shane2peruGaming4JC, lol, ugg, no, Gnome type stuff. :)20:17
Talon_update report: I installed that PCI Raid controller, and now I have my drive 320:17
Gaming4JCI also am looking for another player though, Rhythmbox seems to stop playing CDs now after about the 5th song. :/20:17
Gaming4JCheh20:17
VCoolioshane2peru: banshee, audacious, various mpd clients like quodlibet, ario, sonata; there's tons of options in this department20:18
shane2peruGaming4JC, yeah, Rhythmbox is ok, but I think there is probably something better out there.20:18
Talon_but now i got to get the drivers for that pci raid controller in windows so windows can access that drive again... jeesh... what a mess20:18
shane2peruVCoolio, I want something that would drop in as a replacment for the default, perhaps I will give banshee a try20:18
mazda01_trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.20:19
MasterMatanhi all20:19
shane2peruVCoolio, I always liked Amarok in the old days, thought it had a nice interface, Rhythmbox just is lacking some stuff.20:19
jribmazda01_: why would they be overwritten?20:19
meeeehi again; trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, i get an 'Could Not Calculate the Update' error20:20
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty20:20
joh6nni've tried disabling ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference20:20
meeeeits a fresh install of 8.04, trying to upgrade to 8.10....20:20
iokaguntbert: 10x a lot man :)20:21
jribmeeee: how are you upgrading?20:21
meeeeupdate-manager20:21
guntbertioka: you're welcome :-)20:21
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VCoolioshane2peru: banshee has a lot to offer too; quodlibet has a lot of plugins to get features; just try out stuff20:21
jribme___: did you update 8.04 first?  Have you ever enabled any third-party repositories?  Have you installed anything outside the official repositories?20:22
shane2peruVCoolio, is Juk more of a kde one?20:22
ViridianFireI have the alsamixer open in the terminal20:22
mazda01_jrib, not sure. i am using a usb live persistent install created by pendrivelinux windows executable. it created a 4gb casper-rw file and there must be some script run at bootup that overwrites certain files. or maybe my main filesystem files can't be saved to because i have a ro filesystem. not sure. here is the output of mount:  http://pastebin.com/f1cb986ee20:22
me___i have a fresh 8.04.no outside repos, no packages at all installed other than the base ones20:22
jolarenHow do I run an Java application in Ubuntu?20:22
jribmazda01_: is anything peristent?20:22
VCoolioshane2peru: yes20:22
ViridianFireand there is no volume bar for the headphone jack20:22
joh6nnjolaren: do you have java installed?20:22
jrib!persistent > mazda01_20:23
shane2peruVCoolio, ahh, I want to stay clear of the extra kde stuff, ok, Banshee, and I will look  at that other one too.20:23
jribmazda01_: maybe that helps20:23
mazda01_jrib, it appears that files I write to my home dir are still there.20:23
Gaming4JCahhh finally found a pengupop tracker... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pengupop/+filebug20:23
aliciapgdoes anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?20:23
jolarenjoh6nn; I believe so, yes.. I installeds ome dependencies from the packet manager20:23
mazda01_jrib, changes like installing programs (cairo-dock, xchat, etc etc) are still here after reboit20:23
jolarenjoh6nn; the "sunjava-6-bin" package20:23
joh6nnjolaren: ok.  and what program are you trying to run?20:24
jason_whats a good vnc server application for ubuntu? I need it for being a server so I can log into it from work - not a viewer. (already have the viewer)20:24
jolarenjoh6nn; Jotify20:24
jribmazda01_: I see.  Don't know then, see if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent has a better install method that works20:24
roleri am running ubuntu with an ATI 4650 on my TV. It has underscan and I want to turn it off to get rid of the border. I am trying to find the right option for xorg.conf, anyone have that?20:24
jolarenjoh6nn; joel@joel-laptop:~$ java -version20:24
jolarenjava version "1.6.0_15"20:24
jolarenJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)20:24
jolarenJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)20:24
FloodBot4jolaren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:24
ViridianFireso my headphone jack doesnt have a volume bar in the alsamixer and isnt outputing sound20:25
thedukehey guys, I'm struggling a little with cronjobs... they just refuse to run20:25
jrib!cron | theduke20:26
ubottutheduke: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm20:26
joh6nnjolaren: and what happens when you try to run it?20:26
thedukejust a simple test: * * * * * ls /home/username >> /home/username/ls.log20:26
_MaX_hi20:26
* _MaX_ is german *g*20:26
thedukeand nothing shows up in the file20:26
jribtheduke: did you remember the final newline?20:27
aliciapgdoes anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?20:28
PsiCoLeOhi guys20:28
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty20:28
jolarenjoh6nn; When trying to open from X.. gedit opens it but when opening from terminal I just get errors20:28
_MaX_Spricht hier jemand deutsch? Hab kb auf englisch zu reden -.-20:28
PsiCoLeOim trying to upgrade/update my kernel to 2.6.3320:28
joh6nn_MaX_: ich glaube es gibt deutsch sprachige channels20:29
FreddyHayekjrib, the FAT article you referred me to SEEMS to imply that if I reformat NTFS that may accomplish what I want, i.e, , a partition that lets anyone who can mount it, regardless of what installation of Ubuntu they boot form or what account they are in, or for that matter, what OS they are using to read, write, or eksecute anything on that partition without having to reset file perms of individual files. Afore I go off and reformat, do you believe my inference20:29
_MaX_Ne dreht sich ja um Ubuntu:P20:29
joh6nnjolaren: : pastebin the errors?20:29
jribFreddyHayek: while that's true of ntfs, it is also true of fat20:29
_MaX_Um die Installation um genau zu sein oO20:30
jrib!de | _MaX_20:30
ubottu_MaX_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.20:30
ciscohello everyone i'm new 2 this and i'm having a problem and wondering if someone can help20:30
thedukejrib: that was it, thanks20:30
jribtheduke: I hate that too :)20:30
PsiCoLeObut when I update using to 2.6.33 using ppa20:30
jribcisco: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)20:30
ciscohow you do that20:30
_MaX_Das mit dem /join brauchste mir nich zu sagen, ich kenn IRC :P20:30
jribcisco: just state your problem to the channel, if someone can help, they will20:31
PsiCoLeOi cant use the wirless nor the nvidia drivers20:31
Gaming4JC!help | cisco20:31
ubottucisco: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:31
joh6nn_MaX_: ja, ich meinte ich glaube es gibt sogar deutsch sprachige Ubuntu channels :)20:31
mazda01_so no one has used the pendrivelinux windows executable to create a live usb session and try to make changes to fstab, etc?20:31
Talon_sorry i had to restart my virtual machine, but any clue why my hard drive works on a PCI Raid controller and not the motherboards SATA ports? (worked in win, but not linux) but using this pci raid controller, i can now have my sata drive in both linux and windows..20:31
_MaX_joh6nn: :P20:31
FreddyHayekjrib, that's what I thought before. That  is why I used FAT. but it doesn't seem to be working that way. Seems, at the very least,  to be stopping anyone but the creator from modifying any file unless I reset the perms.20:32
_MaX_- Please register with servicthis channel (#ubuntu-de)20:32
_MaX_-.-20:32
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help20:32
ciscook well i just got 9.10 i have sound but when i try hooking up my headphones i have sound coming out of my comp speakers and my headphones at the same time anybody knows how to fix it20:32
jribFreddyHayek: fat does not have permissions.  They get set when you mount them.20:33
jribFreddyHayek: just follow ubottu's link on what options you need to pass when you mount20:33
OerHeksTalon_  i preffer  pci raid over the onboard raid controller, these are software-raid - uses the cpu20:33
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ViridianFireGaming4JC: The only hardware options I have under sound preferences are: Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo input, Digital Stereo Duplex, Digital Stereo Output + Analog Stereo Input, and Analog Stereo Output20:35
Talon_im just lucky i had this card, i almost blew away linux it annoyed me that bad20:35
r3zahi , i download the thunderbird 3 from mozilla ( tar.bz2 ) now how can i install it in ubuntu ?20:35
nh2what can I do that apt-get install firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa does not upgrade the firefox meta package and the firefox 3.5 packages?20:35
blakkheimr3za: compile probably20:35
r3zablakkheim: can u explain it more ?20:35
Gnear3za: why would you download the tar.bz2?20:35
blakkheim!compile > r3za20:35
ubottur3za, please see my private message20:35
jribr3za: thunderbird is in the repositories.  It's better to use the repositories in general20:35
titan_arkhey does anyone know how to configure the microphone and alsa?20:36
FreddyHayekjrib, thanks. What I hear you saying is that I had half the solution by formatting FAT (or I could have used NTFS) but that now I need to study mounting. If you say that is a fair summary, I'll go study mounting options and quit bthering y'all for a while. Do I take you r meaning correctly?20:36
ubuntuhello everyone.  Is there a good hard drive data recovery program for Ubuntu?20:36
titan_arki cant seem to get any sound/ noise20:36
_dreamycan anyone please tell me why there is no 3d driver for my sis 672 fx ?20:36
jribFreddyHayek: right.  If you are using fstab, ubottu's link should tell you exactly what options you need.  (umask)20:36
_dreamyanyone helping on this ?20:36
r3zajrib: i want the 3 version , respositories have 2.0.23 ..20:36
greenjellowi'm having trouble connecting to the repositories  :( bummer20:37
FreddyHayekjrib, TYVM. later.20:37
Gaming4JCViridianFire: Hmm I'll send a pic of my setup, just a moment...20:37
ViridianFireok20:37
jribr3za: ok, but it's recommended you wait for version 3 to enter the repositories instead of installing it on your own20:37
lucas_una preg, como se instala un nuevo usplash?20:37
Gnea!info testdisk20:37
greenjellowgoogle it lucas20:37
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (karmic), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB20:37
greenjellowit's prob easy20:37
aliciapgdoes anyoneknow anything about musescore?20:37
lucas_ok20:38
ciscoviri thats the same options i saw but none of that gets rid of the problem any other suggestions20:38
Gaming4JCViridianFire: Here's how I select headphones for when I'm using them over my speakers: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1021/soundprefs.jpg20:38
xiambaxCan someone please assist me in mounting an AFP Volume in linux?20:38
namehey20:38
nameanyone can tell me how good orca works?20:38
Gaming4JC!welcome | name20:38
ubottuname: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!20:38
ViridianFireyeah that doesnt seem to work for me20:39
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crlsgmshello fellas, can anyone suggest a nice screenshot app that i can get through synaptic?20:39
Gaming4JCViridianFire: Hmm that's strange, and I'm not particularly good at troubleshooting advanced sound issues. You might want to open up a topic on the forum20:39
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ViridianFireok20:39
nh2r3za: http://www.kabatology.com/12/09/a-single-command-to-install-thunderbird-3-in-ubuntu/20:40
jribdatacrusher: what's wrong with the default one?  Press your print-screen button20:40
ciscooh ok i will try and open up a topic20:40
PindamanAnyone here that can help me out with a non-working repository on Ubuntu Server CLI?20:40
jribPindaman: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)20:40
ViridianFirewell I dont have a volume bar for it on alsamixer could that have anything to do with it?20:40
datacrusherjrib, i got no default one on my start apps20:40
datacrushercan you tell me the name of the default one?20:40
greenjellowpidaman i think i have the same proble20:40
jribdatacrusher: press your print-screen button20:40
datacrusheriv pressed20:40
jribdatacrusher: on your keyboard20:40
datacrusherand now?20:40
jribdatacrusher: that's it :/  are you using gnome in ubuntu?20:41
PindamanMy Ubuntu Server has internet, can ping "www.google.nl" but the repository cannot update or install anything. Hangs on connecting. I can ping the repository address where its trying to connect to.20:41
datacrusheryes20:41
datacrusherwell, i got an error now20:41
datacrushergnome-screenshot20:41
Gaming4JCViridianFire: My AlsaMixer also shows no headphones, but it's working so I'm not sure that's the issue. :/20:41
jribdatacrusher: right20:41
datacrusherill search for it on synaptic20:41
ViridianFireok thanks20:41
greenjellow@Pidaman I have the same problem20:41
ciscoi've tried to delete alsa but that didn't work either20:41
PindamanAlsa is for sound?20:41
r3zanh2: thanks alot man ..20:42
PindamanOh sorry i read the wrong line20:42
ciscooh ok20:42
greenjellow@Pindaman did you upgrade?20:42
lauren-zoehello20:42
PindamanUpgrade to what greenjellow ?20:42
nh2r3za: no problem. There is also a mozilla daily PPA, but it tends to upgrade other stuff you don't want to have.20:42
jribgreenjellow: pastebin your error20:42
nh2how to prevent apt from upgrading firefox(-3.5) package while installing FF 3.6 (mozilla-ppa)?20:42
ciscoto 9.1020:42
lauren-zoehey sexy20:42
datacrusherjrib, dont have it on synaptics list20:42
datacrusherany alternative?20:43
PindamanI installed Ubuntu Server 32bit. Tried reinstalling but same problem20:43
greenjellowi don't now from an older version of ubuntu20:43
Gaming4JCok, guess I had better be going. cya alls20:43
greenjellowi see20:43
Gaming4JC!bye | Gaming4JC20:43
PindamanI did not upgrade greenjellow20:43
ubottuGaming4JC, please see my private message20:43
ArchMagei was hoping someone could help me. Whenever I run blender it segfaults immediately. I was able to run it just fine when i first installed it. also I'm getting a lot of glxinfo errors in my dmesg log20:43
greenjellowi did and this problem came up20:43
jribPindaman: pastebin the command you are running and the full output20:43
greenjellowthere's nothing about it in google20:43
jribgreenjellow: what version are you on now?20:43
PindamanI will paste it, sec20:43
greenjellowi dont even know20:43
greenjellow8.0420:43
greenjellowi think20:43
jrib!version | greenjellow20:43
ubottugreenjellow: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »20:43
greenjellowok20:44
jribdatacrusher: gnome-screenshot is in the "gnome-utils" package20:44
djbasichey can anyone tell me why my web brrowser shuts down20:44
djbasic???20:44
ArchMagehere is a pastebin of my dmesg log containing the glxinfo errors AND the blender error20:44
ArchMagehttp://pastebin.com/m7a44df2920:44
datacrusherhm.. thanks20:44
greenjellowok20:44
jribdjbasic: if you want us to guess, my guess is flash...20:44
ciscopindaman how can i get sound out of my headphones alone20:44
BinaryManif i have a flac image + cue and want to convert individual tracks to mp3, store them in a specific directory, and replaygain them, is there a (set of) command line program(s) that can be used to do this?20:44
PindamanShould be automatic cisco. Had no problems with that20:44
djbasici dnot flash people sorry20:44
djbasic you mean flash player?20:44
datacrusherahhh now were talking20:44
datacrusherthanks jrib20:44
PindamanTry reconnection the headphones cisco20:45
djbasichow can i fix it20:45
jribdatacrusher: this should be in the default install, are you sure your install finished successfully?20:45
ciscoi did i went to 9.10 and i get sound out of both my headphones and comp speakers at the same time20:45
greenjellowyeah im hardy 8.0420:45
ciscodid i miss intalling something20:45
djbasic?20:45
* ArchMage sighs20:45
Pindamanhave you tried the alsa settings from CLI cisco ?20:45
djbasichow do i fix tis web from shuting down20:45
djbasicits pissing me off20:46
greenjellowthanks ubottu20:46
ciscono how do i get there20:46
jribdjbasic: what version of ubuntu?20:46
djbasicshit all20:46
djbasicna just 201020:46
PindamanOpen a terminal and then type "alsa" youll get a screen with some settings, cisco20:46
jribdjbasic: you aren't making any senes.20:46
jribsense even20:46
mneptok!language | djbasic20:46
ubottudjbasic: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:46
djbasici got 9.1020:46
djbasic9.1020:46
ArchMageanyone else have this problem w/ glxinfo/blender?20:47
Pindamanjrib, http://pastebin.com/m5df4a9a3 .20:47
nh2ArchMage: if it worked on the first start, perhaps something in your configuration went wrong. try to remove/rename the .blender folder and see what happens on the next start20:47
Pindamanjrib, i am able to ping the adresses by their alfabetic name.20:47
cisconot getting anything20:47
djbasici started the load first my screen did some wiered things20:47
jribPindaman: does a mirror work ok?20:47
ArchMagenh2, that was my thought too, but i tried that already. :(20:47
PindamanMaybe alsa is not installed cisco?20:47
ciscoi'm supposed to type sudo alsa right??20:47
ArchMagenh2, also tried completely removing it in synaptic then reinstalling blender20:47
Pindamanjrib, what do you mean? These are multiple sources20:48
djbasicis there any way i can load XP20:48
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help20:48
jribPindaman: I mean try a mirror other than nl.archive.ubuntu.com20:48
PindamanJust alsa should work too cisco. Try looking if the package is installed via package manager20:48
ArchMagealso the glxinfo errors concern me greatly20:48
ArchMagecould this mean my gfxcard memory is going bad?20:48
PindamanIll try to replace the whole file with an alternative, english one jrib ?20:49
greenjellowi don't think its the source jrib it's something else20:49
m4jis there a way to find a user group of ubuntu20:49
jolarenHow do I see my lan adress in ubuntu?20:49
jribgreenjellow: this would let us know for sure :)20:49
Pindamanifconfig20:49
greenjellowok lol20:49
jribm4j: what do you mean by "user group"?20:49
thruxtonjolaren: /sbin/ifconfig20:50
nh2ArchMage: which Ubuntu version /kernel?20:50
datacrusherjrib, well, i got this ubuntu pre configured for an specific software, much stuff was removed20:50
ArchMagesec20:50
datacrusherim putting it now20:50
jribdatacrusher: I see20:50
aliciapgdoes anyone know how to play midi's in musescore?20:50
ArchMageLinux Tiamat 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux20:50
ArchMagekarmic20:50
m4jUbuntu user group20:50
ArchMagebut that hasn't changed since it was working20:50
p3rrorhello20:51
otto_hi, running karmic, curious, where did /etc/acpi/ac.d/90-hdparm.sh go (jaunty)?20:51
jribm4j: you mean like a local group of users that meet in real life?20:51
m4jyes20:51
jrib!loco | m4j20:52
ubottum4j: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams20:52
ArchMagei don't understand how something could work on first run then after a reboot suddenly not be working20:52
m4jwhat?20:52
ArchMageno changes to the system20:52
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ArchMagecould the glxinfo and the blender issue be related/20:53
yahyahelo20:53
nh2ArchMage: perhaps. do you have an ATI card?20:54
ArchMagei do, but if that were the issue wouldn't it have not run the first time?20:54
jribm4j: read the link ubottu gave you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams20:54
foul_owlgnome can't seem to remember that i want to show all my folders as lists20:55
nh2not sure20:55
foul_owlit just started doing that20:55
nh2ArchMage: not sure, but its definately graphics related with glxinfo. Are you running the opensource drivers?20:56
Pindamanjrib, the same problem with the US mirror. Maybe a firewall problem? Havent checked on that at all :)20:56
jribPindaman: yeah, maybe20:56
PindamanI mean Ubuntu firewall20:56
fherhola  alguien que hable español?20:56
LiquidLionanyone know of a way to install debian to a separate partition while booted into ubuntu? im having trouble with every usb and cd media known to man and cant get debian installed20:56
greenjellowubuntu has a firewall20:56
greenjellowcool20:56
mneptok!es | fher20:56
ubottufher: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:56
ArchMagei'm running whatever ubuntu installed20:56
jribPindaman: ubuntu has a firewall but there are no rules by default20:56
greenjellowpindaman i think somethins messed in a file somewhere *cries*20:57
PindamanAh. Then im stuck again20:57
nh2LiquidLion: you could search for "debootstrap"20:57
jribPindaman: can you visit http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in a browser ok?20:57
fherok thanks20:57
greenjellowPindaman: I checked everywhere online nothing20:57
PindamanSec20:57
nh2ArchMage: ok, could you check system->system settings point-> hardware (propiretary) drivers?20:57
LiquidLionnh2: did that. almost had an complete sys that i booted into. desktop environ and all.... cept there were TONS of mistakes in the install somehow20:57
jribgreenjellow: have you pastebinned your error yet?20:57
Pindamanjrib, http://pastebin.com/m3af00ba120:58
fheri need the link20:58
greenjellowno20:58
fherplease20:58
greenjellowbut is the same exact thing as pandaman20:58
ArchMagethe only thing in "hardware drivers" is a software modem20:58
greenjellowpindaman20:58
jribPindaman: oh right, you're on a server.  But pinging is not the same I guess20:58
nh2LiquidLion: hmm ok, this is a problem. you could install debian in a virtual machine and if that runs copy the whole thing to your real system20:58
jribgreenjellow: you aren't using the same ubuntu version20:58
PindamanIt is with the alfebetic name. Meaning DNS is working20:59
greenjellowtrue20:59
PindamanIm using Ubuntu Server 32b20:59
LiquidLionnh2: got a linky for a howto? never did that before20:59
PindamanFrom VMware20:59
greenjellowlet me instal irc in ubuntu20:59
balasound is not coming... guys help me...20:59
azerty3again20:59
azerty3i20:59
jribPindaman: how about: wget -q -O - http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/      does that work?20:59
LiquidLioncuz i already have a virtual debian machine :( its why i want debian now. lol20:59
azerty3i try to find package can't find it for ubuntu 9.1021:00
PindamanThe - before the link with space?21:00
cemcI'm using thunderbird3 (downloaded from mozilla site). could anybody tell me how to set chrome as the default browser?21:00
jribPindaman: yeah21:00
ciscowhich alsa box do i need to check sorry i'm a noob21:00
Peloazerty3, what's the package ?21:00
thruxtoncemc: ints in chromes options21:00
pilif12pHey. I can't install KompoZer from the software center...21:00
propellerdnkрусские есть?21:00
pilif12pi get an error21:00
greenjellow_jrib:how can i see the error?21:00
Pelo!ru | propellerdnk21:00
ubottupropellerdnk: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:00
greenjellow_jrib:so i can copy paste21:00
azerty3deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main21:00
azerty3deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse21:00
azerty3deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse21:00
azerty3deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse21:00
FloodBot4azerty3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:00
azerty3deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multivers21:00
jribgreenjellow_: why are you here if you don't see an error :P21:00
Pindamanjrib, 0 (nul) isnt an parameter21:01
azerty3these all package Pelo21:01
greenjellow_jrib:ok wait a sec i do lol21:01
balain lunix sound is not coming... help me...21:01
jribPindaman: O, not 021:01
PindamanOk21:01
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Peloazerty3, those aren'T packages those are repositories for an old release of ubuntu , why are you wanting packages in there ?21:01
ciscopindaman which box do i check21:01
pilif12phelp?21:01
cemcthruxton: chrome IS the default browser, but thunderbird doesn't have any... it opens a window to select the app with which I want to open the url21:01
pilif12psomething about untrusted source21:01
Pindamancisco, are you in package manager now? Look for alsa. Or try to google the .tar.gz files21:02
nh2LiquidLion: unfortunately I've no link, but the procedure is as following: install a Virtual Machine software (e.g. Virtualbox), install debian inside it, set up a virtual network and copy over / to a mounted partition. (you have to make sure you chose the same file system in vm and real machine and delete the folders which are created automatically as /sys and /proc on the real machine)21:02
propellerdnkне знаю как переключиться на руский чат21:02
Pelopilif12p, you'Re missing an authoriztion key, go back to wehre you got that repos and get the key21:02
azerty3yes i need those repositories to install this things mysql php5-mysql php-db mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5 php5-gd php-pear php-pear-DB sox curl21:02
Pelo!ru | propellerdnk21:02
thruxtoncemc: ahh, sorry, misunderstood you..21:02
ciscoi'm in package manager now21:02
newguy2010need serious help here.  I have lectures sent to me on CD they need to play in adobe...I am serious noob...21:02
Peloazerty3, what version of ubuntu are you running ?21:02
LiquidLionok i'll give it a try. ty nh221:02
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mtx_initpropellerdnk: I dont think many speak Cyrillic here21:03
newguy20109.1021:03
ciscoi typed in alsa on search box21:03
azerty39.10 karmic21:03
pilif12pHow do i know where i got the repos...?21:03
ArchMagei'm not sure my video card even has binary drivers21:03
ciscojust wondering which box do i check21:03
ArchMageplus if the app worked when i first installed it i don't understand why it shouldn't work now21:03
Peloazerty3, look in menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,  you can find those packages in there21:03
mneptokmtx_init: no speaks Cyrillic. it's the name of an alphabet. ;)21:03
nh2LiquidLion: no problem. you could also try "TestDrive" which seems to install debian/ubuntu isos in a Qemu/KVM machine21:03
Peloazerty3, or new versions of them21:03
nh2ArchMage: try installing the ati proprietary drivers, reboot and check if the error persists21:03
greenjellowa program froze how do i force quit?21:03
Pindamanhttp://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-upgrade-to-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu.html maybe this link is usefull cisco21:03
propellerdnkrussian chat?21:03
Pelopropellerdnk,   #ubuntu-ru21:04
mtx_initmneptok: a alphabet which is part of many languages, which is why I stated the alphabet rather then the actual unknow language.21:04
newguy2010how do i play flash media in ubuntu Karmic Koala21:04
mneptok!ru | propellerdnk21:04
ubottupropellerdnk: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:04
nh2ArchMage: there are binary drivers if its a radeono21:04
jribgreenjellow: system -> administration -> system monitor21:04
ArchMagei don't think there are proprietary drivers my graphics card is like a 9100 IGP mobile21:04
balahelp me!!!! sound is coming...21:04
ciscoty will try21:04
jrib!flash > newguy201021:04
ubottunewguy2010, please see my private message21:04
propellerdnk#ubuntu-ru21:04
Pelonewguy2010, instgall the restricted extras , look in the package manager at the bottom of the application menu21:04
mtx_initI should have been more clear21:04
Pelopropellerdnk,   /join #ubuntu-ru21:04
ArchMageit's not even in the selection list on the ati driver page21:04
ciscois that for ubuntu 9.1021:05
thruxtoncemc: did you try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser21:05
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help21:05
balahelp me... sound is not coming jaunty.....ti dont the exact repos 4 my sound card...any idea tghaty can help me21:05
sagittaWhere can I find a printer driver for my Brother MFC-5460CN Printer ? ?21:06
nh2ArchMage: seems as if 9100 series were thrown out of fglrx in some release, but you could try an older one21:06
jrib!printing > sagitta21:06
ubottusagitta, please see my private message21:06
Pindamanjrib, the command finised with no output. apt-get is still not able to update with the US and NL repo21:06
jribPindaman: there is your problem.  wget is basically just a web browser21:06
azerty3Pelo: the problem is if i install pakage from synaptics , by doing a quick search it list lots of content i don't know which one have to choose21:06
ArchMagei don't understand. as i said, it worked when i first installed it21:06
ArchMagewhy would a graphics card update change anything?21:06
azerty3and if i install everything it takes time21:07
Peloazerty3, look for the one closest to the names you have21:07
jribPindaman: remove the "-q" and try again21:07
ArchMageplus i don't even know how to begin figuring out how to find propriertary drivers for this  card21:07
newguy2010I can play flash media in a web page but not on CD any help for this21:07
Pelonewguy2010, you can play flash media with  mplayer if I remember correctly21:08
Pindamanjrib, it was -O -  and not -O- right21:08
jribPindaman: they are equivalent21:08
PindamanOh21:08
newguy2010Pelo when I click the start file it opens the archive manager21:08
Pelonewguy2010, open mplayer first and then from there open the file21:08
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newguy2010ill try21:09
nh2ArchMage: yes, it is indeed strange that it worked for the first time, I have no idea why. But if the prop. driver does not help anything, you can still search for another solutioin, so it might be worth a try. http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xorg-driver-fglrx seems to support 910021:09
azerty3ok i ll try Pelo21:09
libtechi want to comment out some entries in the grub menu, i thought it was /boot/grub/menu.lst but i am not seeing this file? has it changed in 9.10?21:09
nh2how to prevent apt from upgrading firefox(-3.5) package while installing FF 3.6 (mozilla-ppa)?21:09
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ciscohey pindaman i have 9.10 not 9.0421:10
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PindamanYeah sorry, ill look again21:10
ciscowould that still work21:10
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ciscooh ok ty21:10
ArchMageso if i install this via synaptic it won't conflict with whatever i already have installed?21:11
greenjellowin pastebin i tripped the spambooster wtf is that lol21:11
greenjellowhow can i post21:11
Pindamancisco, what does "cat /proc/asound/version" output?21:11
PeloArchMage, if htere are conflicts you'll get a msg before the install begins21:11
DEbiansqueezenh2 would aptitude pinning work for you ?21:11
DEbiansqueezeaptitude hold21:12
ciscowhere do i find that at21:12
nh2ArchMage: yeah you should try it, it will deny if it thinks it won't work21:12
cemcthruxton: yep, I tried that21:12
thruxtonlibtech: look at /etc/default/grub21:12
newguy2010exit21:12
KentrelIs there a native tool in Ubuntu to monitor in real time my connection speed to a specific IP, or do I need to download something else to do it?21:13
Pindamancisco, open an terminal and type "cat /proc/asound/version"21:13
theRipperhy all , i install apache and opnessl ,but when i install openssl don`t work, the site is same21:13
Gnea!info etherape21:13
ubottuetherape (source: etherape): graphical network monitor modeled after etherman. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1build1 (karmic), package size 372 kB, installed size 932 kB21:13
onetinsoldierKentrel: i think 'iptraf' will do that21:13
theRippersorry for my english21:13
Kentrelok21:13
Pindamanjrib, Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com|2001:7b8:3:37::21:2|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.21:13
jribPindaman: right, this is some sort of network issue21:14
duckx0rwhere is the default local mail storage in ubuntu?21:14
ArchMageonce it's installed do i have to do something to switch to that driver?21:14
jribPindaman: maybe related to ipv6, i don't know21:14
azerty3installing a program by synaptic i got this error : E: roxen4-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 121:14
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azerty3what i have to do ?21:14
greenjellowjrib:how do i post in pastebin it says im a spammer21:14
jribduckx0r: why do you think there is one?  Ubuntu doesn't ship with any sort of MTA21:14
jribgreenjellow: use a different pastebin21:15
greenjellowok21:15
Parabolawill ubuntu 9.10 support ipod nano 4G (one right before the new video one)21:15
Peloduckx0r, for what ? stuff for evolution is stored in the /home folder,  for the other kind of mail,  /var/mail ...21:15
davefI had to delete some files in /lib/modules to make room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now it says my system is broken, how do I remove linux-restricted-modules-xxx when some files are already removed?21:15
Parabolamy girlfriend has a 4g, and i want to remove windows off her desktop21:15
KentrelThats what she said!21:15
Parabolarhytmbox, or gtkpod?21:15
CatoueyI'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.1.0 from 9.0.4 on my VPS.  I get tye system fully upgraded and then run do-release-upgrade.  After it starts upgrading (as per the "Upgrading" message) I'm seeing "FATAL -> Failed to fork.  I haven't been able to figure how to fix this.  Anyone know what might cause this?21:15
ciscoAdvanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20.........that what it said21:15
PeloParabola, better check in theforum  www.ubuntuforums.org21:15
duckx0rPelo, I sent an e-mail to my user and I can get it using the mail command, but there are no files in my /var/mail/$USER folder21:16
PeloParabola, you can alway use songbird, looks a lot like itune21:16
Peloduckx0r, /home/username/.mail maybe ?21:16
PindamanThen try updating it with this cisco : http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/10/29/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on-ubuntu-karmic-koala-9-10/21:16
Peloduckx0r, I don'T realy have a clue sorry21:16
ArchMagenh2, is there anything i have to do to enable this driver once it's installed?21:16
azerty3installing a program by synaptic i got this error : E: roxen4-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 121:16
azerty3is it notmal .?21:17
duckx0rPelo, yeah I thought maybe something like that too, but it's not there either. thanks though21:17
greenjellowjrib: here's my error http://pastebin.mozilla.org/69925421:17
ciscook brb ty21:17
Peloazerty3, error msg are not normal no21:17
azerty3what i have to do ?21:17
Peloazerty3, no idea what ishappening,  try doing a google search for the msg21:17
jolarenHow do I write to see what directory I am in? I want to see all the directory way.. /home/user/desktop etc21:17
davefjolaren, 'pwd'21:18
brontosaurusrexjolaren: pwd21:18
Pelojolaren, pwd I think21:18
azerty3again i try to install an other package at the final of installation process it give the same result21:18
Pelolater folks21:18
azerty3i dont where the blem is ???21:18
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lifestreamHello, is there a GUI for the *new* Grub yet?21:18
onetinsoldierazerty3: no, that's not normal and can be hard to fix sometimes. i can probably help you fix it. but it may take a while irc texting to each other.21:19
nh2DEbiansqueeze: seems a good try, it stops overrdining my old packages, but still wants to remove packages like firefox-3.0-branding and firefox-3.0-gnome-support. How to get around this?21:19
jribgreenjellow: i have to go, post that to the channel21:19
azerty3WEll no problem i m motivate21:19
onetinsoldierazerty3: only other option is doing something like a remote-desktop session or something. might be interesting but i've never done it21:20
azerty3to understand what it happen21:20
ChogyDanazerty3: do you know what roxen is?21:20
azerty3coooooool21:20
Pindamanjrib, an idea to comment uit all the ip6 stuff in /etc/hosts? Theres no ip4 stuff inthere21:20
azerty3i give me pc21:20
azerty3to you ?21:20
onetinsoldierazerty3: is english not your first language?21:20
azerty3no the last one21:20
greenjellowok thanks jrib21:20
onetinsoldierazerty3: roger, hehe21:20
CatoueyI'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.1.0 from 9.0.4 on my VPS. I get tye system fully upgraded and then run do-release-upgrade. After it starts upgrading (as per the "Upgrading" message) I'm seeing "FATAL -> Failed to fork. I haven't been able to figure how to fix this. Anyone know what might cause this?21:21
greenjellowi need help with this error anyone up for it? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/69925421:21
Pindaman< afk for a min21:21
ChogyDangreenjellow: check your interwebs?21:22
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Guest64047please help with importing another repositories to svn server21:22
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UbuntuUserHi, i need help with IRC21:23
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:23
UbuntuUseri want to write in #ubuntu-de21:23
azerty3wat's up ?21:23
greenjellowchogydan:whats interwebs. internet? it's working21:23
zagabarIs there a command that displays the current traffic through a specified network device?21:23
UbuntuUserbut the bot says: Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel21:23
UbuntuUserwhat to do?21:23
kwkhi21:23
ChogyDangreenjellow: use a browser and see if you can connect to those addresses.21:23
ChogyDan!register | UbuntuUser21:24
ubottuUbuntuUser: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode21:24
greenjellowo ok21:24
dman777does the live ubutnu contain a /etc/mtab?21:24
mazda01_ha, i was just coming to ask also. does someone know if a live session of ubuntu contain a /etc/mtab file?21:24
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?21:24
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:25
mazda01_joh6nn, what wireless card do you have? issue lspci21:25
greenjellowChogyDan: i cant connect 404 error, how do i fix this?21:25
thedukehow can I combine the output from two commands? or combine a regular string with a command output? like "Current date: " + date >> file.log21:26
CatoueyWhen doing a 'do-release-upgrade' should  I change the repositories to the new OS before or after running do-release-upgrade?21:26
joh6nnmazda01_: atheros AR521221:26
ChogyDangreenjellow: OH, you are using powerpc.  I thought they ended support for that21:26
ChogyDanCatouey: I thought that tool would do it for you21:26
greenjellowpeople still use it21:26
toto__hi guys! comeone there?21:26
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LordMetroidSo Ubuntu is using iBus now?21:27
UbuntuUseri dont want to register with password and email adress, some days ago I had not to register. Why now?21:27
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toto__i have just installed ubuntu. wanted to try avant window navigator. it asks for a compositing like compiz21:27
greenjellowChogyDan: i think i need another downlaod server or something21:27
CatoueyChogyDan: Thanks, I wasn't sure if that could be causing my FATAL -> Failed to fork errors on do-release-upgrade21:27
ChogyDangreenjellow: yes, but lack of support means the repos will get shutdown eventually21:27
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ChogyDan!powerpc | greenjellow21:27
ubottugreenjellow: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ21:27
toto__which one should i go for? i htere a tuto? i d like to run it but having the choice between gnome or compiz as DE21:27
thedcmyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawr21:28
ripcordUbuntuUser:  some channels have flags set that only allow registered users in them21:28
thedcmyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:28
greenjellowok thanks for the info21:28
zagabarWRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!21:28
toto__to run copiz do i have to run it in command line?21:28
greenjellowima see what i can do21:28
UbuntuUserbut ubuntu-de is an official irc support channel ...21:28
toto__*compiz21:28
greenjellowthanks21:28
ChogyDangreenjellow: yeah, you should be able to use the community repos or something, good luck21:28
UbuntuUserand it worked well in the past21:29
ripcordUbuntuUser: it depends on if the moderators want to set the flag or not. Sometimes they will set it temporarily to stop spam bots21:29
UbuntuUserah ok21:29
guntbertUbuntuUser: if it is not too urgent please wait a few days - when the spam attacks are over the mode will be set back to normal21:29
UbuntuUserand 2nd problem: i want to join #mumble21:30
ChogyDanCatouey: yeah, I dunno.  I would check the !upgrade factoid and make sure you are fully updated21:30
UbuntuUserbut following error: You need to be identified to join that channel21:30
joh6nnmazda01_: any ideas?21:30
UbuntuUserso i cant join nor register21:30
lifestreamtoto__, do you already have compiz installed? If so, go System->Preferences->Appearance     then click on the last tab, that says Visual Effects.... select.... "Normal" or "Extra"21:30
CatoueyChogyDan: I am fully updtated, I ran the update, upgrade, and full-upgrade commands 2x21:30
guntbertUbuntuUser: same as above - simply register21:30
ciscopindaman ty for your help it's telling me to restart my comp if anything goes wrong i will try and come back on it's hard to get Internet in Afghanistan but hopefully i did everything right21:30
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:31
lifestreamtoto__, then next time you start your computer, compiz will be running21:31
UbuntuUserbut how to register at mumble without a tab in pidgin?21:31
chazcoHi... i'm trying to save a file from a website (a flv). Normally i can copy it from the firefox cache, but it automatically deletes itself as soon as it's complete. How can I prevent this from happening? Tried making the file read only with no luck...21:31
toto__lifestream: you mean the EXTRA visual effects ARE compiz?21:31
nh2toto__: yes21:32
PedroI have an issue I am having some trouble resolving.  I have a single monitor at 1680x1050 but for some reason my Nvidia card is creating a wider screen that pans to the right.   How do I make it so that its only 1680x1050?21:32
nh2toto__: compiz is installed on ubuntu and enabled if you switch desktop effects to on21:32
lifestreamnh2,  NORMAL  is compiz too, isn't it? It's just less CPU intensive effects, right?21:32
ripcordUbuntuUser: register with nickserv first then you should be able to get in to the channele21:32
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nh2lifestream: yes, the first point in effects is compiz off, the second two are for on21:33
PedroI have an issue I am having some trouble resolving.  I have a single monitor at 1680x1050 but for some reason my Nvidia card is creating a wider screen that pans to the right.   How do I make it so that its only 1680x1050?21:33
guntbert!register | UbuntuUser21:33
ubottuUbuntuUser: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode21:33
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PedroSomething to do with X screen but how do I disable that??21:34
LjL!away > LiquidLion|AFK    (LiquidLion|AFK, see the private message from ubottu)21:34
guntbertUbuntuUser: its one registration for the network - not one for every channel21:34
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:34
nh2DEbiansqueeze: works fine now, I pin-disallowed all packages from the mozilla-ppa with Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net and set priority to -1000 and pin-allowed 300 the firefox-3.6 and firefox-3.6-gnome-support packages. Thanks for your hint!21:34
UbuntuUserfor the freenode network?21:34
MidnighTokerevening people. I'm looking for an app that will show me multiple clocks in different timezones. can anyone recommend something please? google is not helping.21:34
toto__nh2 great21:34
toto__thanks21:34
toto__i ll try normal then cause Extra is just too slow for my config21:34
PedroCan someone help me with my screen panning when the mouse hits the right side?21:34
toto__i restart X21:35
dman777No /etc/mtab in the live ubununtu system. Is that normal for ubunutu?21:35
guntbertUbuntuUser: I suggest you join #freenode for further questions about acces to the network21:35
guntbert*access21:35
MidnighTokerPedro: open System -> Preferences -> Display and set your screen resolution to the correct one for your monitor.21:35
makedonac144yo21:35
makedonac144I have a question21:35
makedonac144My friend has a problem21:36
lifestream!ask | makedonac14421:36
ubottumakedonac144: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:36
LjL!info gworldclock | MidnighToker21:36
ubottuMidnighToker: gworldclock (source: gworldclock): Displays time and date in specified time zones. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-7ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 39 kB, installed size 208 kB21:36
duckx0rthat's not a question :P21:36
lifestream!enter | makedonac14421:36
ubottumakedonac144: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:36
newguy2010Ok i am lost.....cant save files to home folder only home/<username>  so cant install things that load from home menu21:36
brophati want to make a UNR Flash drive using a mac, but the instructions are totally  confusing. anyone want to sum it up fo rme?21:36
makedonac144He's Ubuntu won't recongize his HDD in "My comptuer"21:36
Xodiac13i need help on finding the right distro for my video card i have a radeon hd 4350 and all i want to do is get 3d working so forth what would be the best distro for my video card21:36
MidnighTokerLjL: thank you kindly21:36
PedroMidnighToker:  When I try to set the resolution instead of leaving it on auto it black screens.21:36
nh2brophat: try unetbootin21:36
LjLnewguy2010: err... what? /home/<username>/ *is* your home folder.21:36
MidnighTokerPedro: that will probably be your refresh causing problems.21:37
brophatnh2 that will make my flash drive?21:37
joh6nnnewguy2010: i'm not sure i followed that.  what are you trying to do?21:37
nh2brophat: yeah you can chose a distri to install, it will even download it for you21:37
DekkardXodiac13:  !ati21:37
PedroMidnightoker: I left the refresh on auto and I have also tried it on 6021:37
makedonac144How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but his HDD21:37
nh2brophat: it flashes it to a given usb drive21:37
Xodiac13!ati21:37
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:37
newguy2010guess i dont really know..my username is wmy76ram and that is where things download to but then the command in terminal reply cant find21:37
nh2brophat: and makes it bootable21:37
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:38
MidnighTokerPedro: hmm. what graphics card?21:38
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?21:38
brophati gotta download unetbootin cause my mac say no such command found21:38
PedroNvidia GTX 28521:38
makedonac144How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but my HDD wont show in My computer21:38
ArchMagethe fglrx drivers didn't work at all21:39
LjLnewguy2010: you're trying to install programs by manually downloading them?21:39
Pololoidjoh6nn: Try desabling IPv621:39
ArchMageblender still doesn't work on a new username21:39
nh2hehe I recently thought Ubuntu wouldn't recognize my HD, too, so I disconnected power and reconnected some times, then I realized that the HD I searched for was actually in my cupboard instead of my computer and that I hat disconnected my normal system HD, but I didn't notice it because Ubuntu kept running ^^21:39
PedroMidnightoker: Nvidia gtx 28521:39
ArchMagedeleting ~/.blender21:39
newguy2010LjL: yes stuff like realplayer21:39
joh6nnPololoid: i tried that; no discernible difference21:39
ArchMagedidn't do anything, apt-get remove --purge blender and apt-get autoremove21:39
MidnighTokerPedro: have you tried using `nvidia-settings`?21:39
makedonac144How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but his HDD21:39
ArchMagethen reinstalled blender. still doesn't work21:39
Xodiac13for my video card what about dual monitoring will i be able to do that with ease too21:39
ArchMagealso still getting glxinfo errors21:39
lifestreammakedonac144,  You mean, your Ubuntu HDD won't show up in Windows "My computer"?21:39
nh2ArchMage: can you run other opengl 2d or 3d apps?21:40
makedonac144In the Ubuntu explorer I mean21:40
PedroMidnightoker: When I go to display settings it pops up the nvidia control panel21:40
ArchMageglxgears works fine21:40
makedonac144My Windows Crashed21:40
LjLnewguy2010: you can use VLC to play most Real files, and VLC is in the repositories and doesn't involve doing strange things like you're attempting to...21:40
makedonac144I can boot it up anymore21:40
LjL!real > newguy2010    (newguy2010, see the private message from ubottu)21:40
MidnighTokerPedro: hmm... ok. you have a proper problem then. beyond my remit, i'm afraid. sorry21:40
nh2ArchMage: I think glxgears is not a so great example to try out (though i forgot the reason why), try something else21:40
davidfI'm trying to install a .deb for xgospel (an Internet Go client) and get the message: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  Can not find xlibs package on Ubuntu Jaunty anywhere, or install it.  Any ideas?21:41
newguy2010it wont play this flash cd from my instructor..it used to play strat to Adobe Flah when I click the start.exe file21:41
PedroMidnighToker:  I believe it has to do with X screen but the control panel will not let me disable it.21:41
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:41
nh2makedonac144: do a "sudo fdisk -l" and paste it via nopaste21:41
ArchMagewell what would you like me to try21:41
PedroMidnighToker:  It has my "X screen" dimensions set to 2960x1050 ... but won't let me disable that ... could it be I have to somehow run the nvidia thing as admin?21:42
StaticShockso, the man page for shutdown(8) says that the tool is just there for backwards compatibility with System V, and is pointless in Upstart. so is there a different, upstart-specific way to shut down / restart etc?21:42
joh6nnPololoid: any other ideas?21:43
nh2ArchMage: not sure, perhaps try supertuxkart21:43
ArchMagecompiz desktop cube works fine too21:43
ArchMageeven with rotate21:43
Pololoidjoh6nn: No21:43
_mariusplease help with importing another repositories to svn server21:43
Xodiac13is it easy to do dual monitors with ubuntu?21:43
nh2ArchMage: hmm then opengl should work fine21:44
ArchMageyes21:44
pembrokeHI21:44
ArchMagehowever blender still segfaults immediately21:44
ArchMagethe window pops up and closes immediately21:44
joh6nn_marius: i'm not sure anyone here is going to be able to help you with that.  that's more of a specific svn question, than a distro question21:44
nh2perhaps the version of blender uses some newer opengl commands your graphics card doesn't understand21:44
pembrokehow can I change the options for resolution?21:44
nh2ArchMage: could you try a rather old version of blender?21:44
ArchMagethen it shouldn't have worked when i first installed it21:45
ArchMagei used it for like 4 hours21:45
mneptokArchMage: what output do you get when running Blender from the command line?21:45
benji_Hi, is there a bootclean.sh somewhere in ubuntu distro?21:45
nh2makedonac144: it's "sudo fdisk -l"21:45
makedonac144My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me21:45
ArchMagearcane@Tiamat:~$ blender21:45
ArchMageCompiled with Python version 2.6.4.21:45
ArchMageChecking for installed Python... got it!21:45
ArchMageSegmentation fault21:45
_mariusjoh6nn: where could i get help? it's very important for me to solve it21:45
mneptokArchMage: and have you tried booting to an earlier kernel?21:46
FloodBot4ArchMage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:46
ArchMagei wasn't running on an earlier kernel when i was using it for four hours yesterday :(21:46
davefI had to delete some files in /lib/modules to make room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now it says my system is broken, how do I remove linux-restricted-modules-xxx when some files are already removed?21:46
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makedonac144My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me21:47
mneptokArchMage: have you tried deleting all the Blender prefs in your home dir?21:47
mneptokArchMage: and try disabling Compiz.21:48
ArchMageyes21:48
nh2ArchMage: perhaps there is indeed something wrong with your card. you could try letting it cool a down a bit. You could also try starting blender from a ubuntu live cd which will make sure it isnt't your system that has changed21:48
ArchMagecompiz is not on21:48
macman_question .. i have an external usb hdd that connects via ide to usb dongle .. windows can read it but ubuntu/linux can't .. are there any apps out there that can force the external hdd to be read .. the FS is ntfs21:48
joh6nn_marius: no idea.  perhaps try and find a subversion channel?21:48
ArchMagealso apparently i was getting no glxinfo errors yesterday21:48
ArchMageand today i am21:48
_mariusjoh6nn: ok. tks a lot21:48
nh2makedonac144: you have to post the output of sudo fdisk -l somewhere so that we can read it21:48
ArchMageso i'm inclined to believe that issue is related21:48
init2winit77How do I install more FONT types and make them accessible system wide?21:49
makedonac144My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me21:49
JustMozzyhi guys. I've been searching on the net for OVI for linux. I found several forum entries talking about it and some people said they downloaded and tried it but I couldn't find any links. can someone help?21:49
nh2init2winit77: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts21:49
ArchMagehow can i disable DRI in 9.10?21:50
ArchMagei don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:50
init2winit77nh2: thank you21:51
gerobHow do I turn off X screen?21:51
iAmerikanHas anyone been successful in browsing a bluetooth device?21:51
nh2ArchMage: sudo Xorg -configure  will create an xorg.conf21:51
ArchMageis there no way to disable DRI without dealing with an xorg.conf?21:52
Ferris-is there any way to change the graphical menu structure? so i can click to open a box where i can click to open a box to chose a program to run rather than having this list of options <applications, places, system> in front of me21:52
lifestreamIs there a GRUB2 GUI yet?21:53
DarkDigitalDreamDoes anyone know offhand what command would be able to tell me the last time a folder (or any contents in a folder) had any data added, removed, or altered?21:53
PololoidNo21:53
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nh2ArchMage: I don't think so, it might work with a HAL fdi file but it seems way harder than editing xorg.conf21:53
cdahmedehhello, i am running xubuntu 9.10 and want to permanently disable touchpad tapping, in gnome, there was checkbox to disable it. in xfce there anything. i tried disable via the xinput configuration in command line, but it's reset when i resume after suspend21:54
nh2ArchMage: you can still fiddle with HAL in case disabling dri helps21:54
nh2cdahmedeh: synclient is your friend. there should be a command21:54
Kubianyone know how to disable overscan on a vga monitor?21:54
IceDaneI just tried starting my ubuntu server box up again, and tried to upgrade. For some reason, it is erroring on openoffice packages, and they are preventing me from getting new packages and they won't be removed. Error is: Removing openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us ...21:54
IceDane/var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.postrm: 6: update-openoffice-dicts: not found21:54
apipkini have ubuntu 9.10 and compiz keeps reloading and it makes it incredibly difficult to do anything. how do i fix this?21:55
Guest9637i have a question21:55
hiexpohello all21:56
nh2cdahmedeh: sorry syndaemon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad21:56
nh2cdahmedeh: -t option21:56
JustMozzycan someone help me to make my N series phone visible as a media player to ubuntu?21:57
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hiexpolost my hd last night :(21:57
cdahmedehit still doesn't work with synclient, touchpad tapping is disabled at first. when i suspend, and then resume, tapping works again, and i want tapping to be disable permanently21:57
CNLiberalcan anyone tell me why my 9.10 x32 box is no longer serving out NFS3?  when I do a ps aux I see this:  /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --manage-gids --no-nfs-version 321:58
lifestreamDarkDigitalDream, ls -lt  | grep NameOfYourFolder     could be a start.. run [man ls] to see help.21:58
Linockshello21:58
cdahmedehoh wait, i missed nh2's post21:58
amaureaHow do I use the usb virtual file system (usbfs) in ubuntu? /proc/bus/usb is not mounted here21:59
ArchMagethis is the most frustrating crap ever21:59
LinocksHello I can't seem to get my wireless card working21:59
DarkDigitalDreamlifestream, getting close. I was looking at stat, myself. What I am doing is making a bash script that tells xmms2 to update the media library if it has been changed since last checked.21:59
lifestreamAh, so you need the whole script21:59
hiexpoArchMage, - whats wrong ?22:00
BenutzerConnyGood evening. Is it possible to say the split command, not cut a line - do the cut at the begin of a line f. e.?22:00
amaureanevermind, it has been moved to /dev/bus/usb22:00
heroidwhere can i add empathy plug-ins i want to add now-playing?22:00
DarkDigitalDreamlifestream, well It should really only be 2 lines, so at least half of it haha. I just need the 'has the directory changed' part. I guess I can use the total directory size?22:00
Linockscan anyone help? it is a belkin22:00
sdbinwiiexeHow can I change what partition to boot on my PC?  Say it's windows (/dev/sda1), but I want it to be Ubuntu (/dev/sda3)?22:00
davefWhat's the best music player for large collections of music (over NFS, if it matters)?22:00
sdbinwiiexenot using grub configurations\22:01
BenutzerConnydavef: atunes works22:01
CNLiberali had to killall the rpc.mountd and then start it again after the port mapper service was on22:01
CNLiberalnow everything's cool, but i don't know why it hung to begin with22:01
hiexposdbinwiiexe, - you have a dual boot setup?22:01
sdbinwiiexeyes22:02
hiexpowith ubuntu and windows22:02
sdbinwiiexeyes22:02
PololoidWUBI?22:02
sdbinwiiexepartitioned22:02
sdbinwiiexenot wubi22:02
paddymelon121hey guys... how can i create an easy gui in my c++ program in ubuntu/linux?22:02
davefBunutzerConny: atunes? I don't see that in synaptic.22:02
davidhello22:02
LinocksHello can anyone help me to get my belkin wireless card working?22:02
hiexpodoes a grub not come up when you boot to give you option22:02
sdbinwiiexeno, it boots straight into windows22:03
davidhow do i edit stuff as superuser22:03
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Linocks@david hello22:03
Guest37807hi22:03
DarkDigitalDreamlifestream, I think I can make do with using a simple 'du --max-depth=0 <directory>'22:03
Guest37807<--- David22:03
Guest37807:)22:03
paddymelon121Guest37807 sudo -command-22:03
davefGuest37807: sudo <editorname> <filename>22:03
paddymelon121or sudo -i22:04
lifestreamDarkDigitalDream, Yeah, size could work :P What I was thinking was much more complicated :P22:04
Guest37807wich editor is good?22:04
hiexpoim thinking one sec22:04
paddymelon121Guest37807, for gui, gedit22:04
lifestreamDarkDigitalDream,  I'm quite the bash scripting beginner, not a pro :P  BUT I think ls -lt /path/to/music/ would be enough.  You could use  sed (man sed) to extract  the date/time part. Then save that date/time to a file... Next time the script runs, it could compare the new date/time and compare it with the old date/time that was saved on a file earlier.22:04
davefGuest37807: I guess you probably want something like gedit.  I usually use 'mg', but I wouldn't recommend it.22:04
paddymelon121Guest37807, for non-gui/terminal, nano22:05
iAmerikancan anyone help me with compiling gnome-vfs-obexftp-0.1 ?22:05
Guest37807if i type sudo gedit (file name) on the command propmt will it work on GUI?22:05
hiexpowill it boot into ubuntu22:05
Guest37807let me try22:06
davefGuest37807: yes, gedit will pop up a window, and let you use the mouse.22:06
paddymelon121can i make a c++ program with a gui that starts functions when buttons are pressed easily?22:06
DarkDigitalDreamlifestream, as much as I love programming, I probably know less about bash scripting than you. I've only made a few trivial scripts over the last 5 years I have spent with linux. just the idea of using sed to extract strings from output intimidates me :P22:06
lifestreamMe too, me too :X Sed is creepy22:06
DarkDigitalDreamawk is just as creepy in my eyes22:07
nh2paddymelon121: "easily" depends, I think yes if you know how to program c++. In this case, try the Qt Creator22:07
paddymelon121can i make a c++ program with a gui that starts functions when buttons are pressed easily?22:07
paddymelon121thanks nh222:07
hiexposdbinwiiexe,  - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot read this it will help you22:07
jellowi only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.1022:08
paddymelon121i heard it may be easier, nh2, but, wats the difference between it and gtk?22:08
nh2Guest37807: can you specify your question?22:08
Guest37807BRB22:08
aBsolutex3hello all22:08
plokI want to boot 9.10 desktop from a flash drive, but I can only find the .iso file, not the .img. Can anybody help me out?22:08
microhaxoI have a quick question, is it possible for me to make it so there can only be 1 browser window open at one time?22:09
mobi-sheep!usb | plok22:09
ubottuplok: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent22:09
jellowi only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.1022:09
jellow!sound | jellow22:09
ubottujellow, please see my private message22:09
davefAnyone know how to fix broken packages (broke because I deleted some files).  I actually want the whole package removed.22:09
LinocksHello can anyone help me to get my belkin wireless card working?22:09
DarkDigitalDreampaddymelon121, this doesnt fall into the realm of 'easy' (maybe not even practical for what you are doing) but I use SDL for video game development, and that would work for nice GUI's22:09
nh2paddymelon121: GTK is written in C, Qt in C++. The may look differently, GTK uses Windows widgets on windows, Qt emulates them. The way you handle things is different between them. Wikipedia will tell you more detailed things22:09
paddymelon121whats the difference between qt and gtk? Anyone?22:09
guntbertplok: you can create the flash drive with the usb creator in ubuntu22:10
joh6nnpaddymelon121: that's a rather involved question.  why do you ask?22:10
infidhow can i have ubuntu popup a bubble everytime i get a new gmail?22:10
paddymelon121joh6nn... wat do u mean?22:10
joh6nndavef: are you comfortable with the command line?22:10
nh2infid: use a program that uses ubuntu notifications or install a plugin for your mail program22:10
plokubottu: I read both pages, but it says i have to use img file to boot from a flash drive, and 9.10 desktop is not distributed in img file22:11
davefjoh6nn: yes.22:11
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:11
microhaxoI have this ubuntu setup for a person with special needs and he likes to open many browser windows, he doesn't understand the concept of tabs. How can i limit him to just 1 window open.22:11
infidnh2 do you know of any22:11
DarkDigitalDreaminfid, have you considered linking your gmail account to thunderbird and using it?22:11
paddymelon121joh6nn... wat do u mean?22:11
joh6nnpaddymelon121: the answer to that question is sort of technical, so i'm wondering why you're asking, and what you're trying to do; there may be an easier answer, than explaining the full difference between those 222:11
DarkDigitalDreamif thunderbird is running and you get an e-mail, you get a popup22:11
infidDarkDigitalDream: will i still be able to access gmail from the web if i do that?22:11
DarkDigitalDreaminfid, yes22:11
infidok ill try that then thanks22:11
paddymelon121joh6nn, im trying to make a gui for my C++ program22:12
DarkDigitalDreaminfid, the only downside I see is that your e-mail takes up space on your hard drive as well as googles. But this is good for finding emails when you are offline22:12
nh2infid: I'd expect evolution to do so, but have not tried it, http://ubublogger.wordpress.com/ubuntu-notify-for-thunderbird/ could work, too22:12
microhaxoAnyone? Is there any way to only allow 1 window run?22:12
davefjoh6nn: I removed some files from /lib/modules that old kernels were using, so I'd have room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now I can't remove the package.  And I can't install anything, bucause they are broken.22:12
nh2paddymelon121: in this case, you should really use Qt Creator, the workflow is quite nice22:12
nh2paddymelon121: its in the ubuntu repo22:13
jellowi only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.1022:13
joh6nndavef: `sudo apt-get purge packagename` should remove the package, and all it's settings.  you could also try `apt-get install --reinstall packagename`22:13
paddymelon121nh2, ok, thanks, ill check it out22:13
theRipperhow to find a line text with search in linux ?22:13
infidtheRipper: grep?22:13
DarkDigitalDreammicrohaxo, I dont know much about this, but I have heard that KDE has a 'kiosk mode' if you install the right package. That might give the limitations you are looking for. no promises though22:13
joh6nnpaddymelon121: well, gtk is the gui framework that Gnome uses.  Qt is the framework that KDE uses.  beyond that, the answers start to get pretty indepth22:14
joh6nnpaddymelon121:  if you use Gnome, then i'd say use gtk.  if you use KDE, then i'd suggest Qt22:14
paddymelon121joh6nn, thanks22:15
paddymelon121that helps a lot22:15
joh6nnno problem :)22:15
joh6nndavef: if that doesn't get you anywhere, let me know22:15
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?22:15
paddymelon121is there a simple editor for gtk or do i need to learn the api?22:15
theRipperinfid thanks22:16
joh6nnpaddymelon121: no idea, that's out of my league :)22:17
microhaxoThanks DarkDigitalDream22:17
paddymelon121joh6nn, thanks for your help today!22:17
joh6nnno problem :)22:17
davefjoh6nn: no good.  It's trying to remove them before it will try anything else, since they are old.22:17
joh6nndavef: what errors are you getting?  PM them to me if they're longer than just a few lines22:18
renanOla22:18
BenutzerConnyAny hint where to ask, to improve my "split" knowledge (transform big file into small ones)?22:18
renansou novo no Ubunto22:18
renanalguem poderia me ajudar?22:19
lifestream!pt22:19
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:19
Pololoid#ubuntu-pt22:19
lifestream:D22:19
davefjoh6nn: I think I got it.  I just need to mkdir and touch any files it says aren't there until it works.  Thank god it isn't doing any md5sums on the files before deleting them.22:19
renandica simples22:19
renan meu Gaim22:19
jellowI have sound issue , I can only hear background noise , Stoppign alsa or uninstalling alsa has no effect , What is going on?22:19
renanesta com problema de protocolo22:19
wr4pp3rjoin #ubuntu-charlas22:19
joh6nndavef: heh.  that works :)22:20
mneptok!pt | renan22:20
ubotturenan: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:20
masingerzHi what is a good version for asus 1000he22:20
renancomo faço para acessar  o  locla informado22:20
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renanlocal**22:20
Dr_Willismasingerz:  the ubuntu UNR version works good on my netbooks22:21
djugglerAnyone use a utility that captures images as they cross your network? I seem to recall one that put the images on a screen saver.22:21
Johnny_425I need to merge two partitions, how do I do it?22:21
Guest35010witam22:21
paddymelon121ok, now can anyone help me with why, after upgrading to karmic from jaunty, my gdm wont boot? It hangs on the first screen but, if i go into a shell with repair mode and type 'gdm' it works fine. I had to register my gconf schema when i first upgraded but,22:21
paddymelon121it is otherwise fine22:22
Dr_WillisJohnny_425:  what filesystems? are they side by side on the disk layout? are they both primary? extended/logicals?22:22
davefdjuggler: I remember something like that used for wireless.  I know it had 'air' in the name. Let me see if I can find it.22:23
davidi have a question22:23
davidi want to install aterm22:23
davidsudo apt-get install aterm22:23
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infidis there anyway to make rhythmbox have a black background?22:23
Guest49088i want to install aterm22:24
Guest49088sudo apt-get install aterm22:24
spunkHello, can anyone recommend an application similar to MS Visio for Linux? (I don't recognize dia as an alternative...)22:24
Dr_Willis!find aterm22:24
ubottuFound: aterm, aterm-ml, multi-aterm22:24
Guest49088but what do i do then?22:24
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  run 'aterm' perhaps from the alt-f2 prompt22:24
Guest49088wen i install it do i need to do, make?22:25
Guest49088make is to compile it?22:25
jellowI have sound issue , I can only hear background noise , Stoppign alsa or uninstalling alsa has no effect , What is going on?22:25
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  you installed it from the repos/package manager.. its allready installed once you do the apt-get install command.22:25
marcosRzcan someone here type my nickname to check if notifications are ok?22:25
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  you are not using source.22:25
Guest49088o cool22:25
Dr_Willis!apt | Guest4908822:25
ubottuGuest49088: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)22:25
guntbertmarcosRz: that what #test  is for22:25
davefdjuggler: Maybe this: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/driftnet/22:25
djugglerdavef: thanks22:25
marcosRzcool22:26
marcosRzthanks22:26
Johnny_425how do i merge free disk space with a partition22:26
guntbertmarcosRz: :)22:26
marcosRzthanks guys22:26
marcosRzits working22:26
meowbuntuhi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.22:26
Dr_WillisJohnny_425:  what filesystems? are they side by side on the disk layout? are they both primary? extended/logicals?22:26
meowbuntu!isp22:27
Dr_WillisJohnny_425:  short answer - use gparted.. but you proberly will have to move data from one to the 2nd.. then shrink the 1st.. and enlarge the 2nd..  repeate as needed22:27
djugglerdavef: that looks good! EtherPeg was the one I recalled hearing about before. Now that I see the name and am reminded it was only on Mac that jumped out. I'll give driftnet a try.22:27
Loshameowbuntu: what kind of filesystem do you have on the hdd?22:28
meowbuntuhi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd ubuntu live cd says i have some.22:28
pilif12pugh22:28
alvaroola22:28
Haitihola22:28
meowbuntui know xp could lable them and not use them.22:28
Loshameowbuntu: Please answer the question: what kind of filesystem do you have on the hdd?22:29
meowbuntulinux what else22:29
meowbuntuext 422:29
LjL!sudoedit | Guest4908822:29
ubottuGuest49088: To edit files with !superuser access using the user's standard editor (as set in the EDITOR !shell variable) and its normal configuration, the command « sudoedit <filename> » is available. It creates a local copy of the file, and runs the editor with the user's permissions.22:29
meowbuntuLosha: I AM GOING TO INSTALL UBUNTU ON THIS HDD22:29
TaklopHey guys some halp pl0x ;) How to install a live version of ubuntu onto a portable hardrive, then create a writeable partition on it, so the live ubuntu can write onto it?22:30
toto__hi i m back22:30
toto__i m trying to install themes in gnome but "not valid theme"22:30
toto__it s a .tar.gz (raptor theme)22:30
meowbuntuHaiti: is spamming me in a pm watch out for him22:31
Dr_WillisTaklop:  you could make the HD be a linux filesystem such as ext3, install grub2. and have grub2 boot a ubuntu ISO file as one way.22:31
Loshameowbuntu: please don't shout (using caps is shouting).22:31
kojak012Hello22:31
meowbuntuLosha: oops22:31
kojak012I have a question22:31
Dr_WillisTaklop:  thers also guides at pendrivelinux.com on making a 'casper' save file on a usb drive/live install.22:31
* Losha Haiti is sending racist PMs. The usual nonsense rants....22:31
kojak012JPATH_COMPONENT_SITE returns in format /var/www/html22:31
meowbuntu<Haiti> My friend!  I think this might interest you!  Now that the Obama Nigger Tide is rapidly in retreat, the time for us to act is NOW!  Tired of Niggers and their monkeyshines?  Can't join the KKK because you are not White?  This is Billy Mayes here with an amazing new website!  Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum  Chimpout Forum welcomes anybody who hates niggers and isn't a nigger.      Asian?  No Problem!  Jew22:32
kojak012instead http://www.mydomain.com22:32
Dr_Willistoto__:  look whats in the archive. it could be theres some extra files/archives inside it.22:32
meowbuntu^ Haiti just sent me that in a pm22:32
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  not in here please.. just use /ignore22:32
guntbertmeowbuntu: please don't paste that22:32
libtechwow22:32
DARKGuyhahahahaah WTF xD22:32
Loshameowbuntu: you just made it worse by repeating it...22:32
LjLmeowbuntu: report in #ubuntu-ops - don't repeat here please ;(22:32
mike998Wow... great start to the evening!22:32
meowbuntuthanks haiti is now on ignore22:32
TaklopDr_Willis: Thanks man22:32
toto__Dr_Willis: ok, and to instal icons themes?22:32
DARKGuyOh, humans.22:32
DARKGuy:P22:32
guntbertmeowbuntu: and don't paste that there again22:32
mike998Does anyone know how to enable framebuffer in 9.10?22:33
kojak012 JPATH_COMPONENT_SITE returns in format /var/www/html instead http://www.mydomain.com22:33
meowbuntuLjL: how do i report that22:33
LjLmeowbuntu: join #ubuntu-ops and tell them.22:33
meowbuntustop all telling me i get it22:33
nh2mike998: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer22:33
meowbuntuLosha: how do i fix my hdd so i can install to it22:33
jack5463is .XLSB something that can be run as an animation?22:34
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mike998nh2: I looked at that, but when I add the line vga=792 to the kernel line, I can't find my root partition22:34
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meowbuntuLjL: how can i report that pm to ops22:35
meowbuntugunbert how can i report a spam pm to ops22:35
LjLmeowbuntu: *join* the channel #ubuntu-ops by typing /join #ubuntu-ops and *tell* them.22:35
Picimeowbuntu: Its already taken care of.22:35
guntbert!tab | meowbuntu22:36
ubottumeowbuntu: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:36
nh2mike998: thats strange, it should not change anything except from graphics. you have to add it to the kernel line, not not delete the other parameters, it should work then22:36
mike998nh2: rather than the usual root=hda5 reference, I have a uuid.22:37
snake_My microphone won't work22:37
nh2mike998: shoud still work if you don't delete that, just put your vga line at the end of the line22:37
LaibschIf you could buy either the Asus 1005P or the MSI U115 netbook which one would you choose (if both were available to you for the same price)?22:38
toto__how do in install an icon theme?22:38
jellowafter "sudo alsa force-unload" i can no longer reload the asa sound module , how do i do it?22:38
Laibschmaybe more appropriate in -offtopic22:38
snake_My microphone won't work can anyone help me out ?22:38
meowbuntugunbert i am a lonterm user of irc i know that22:38
meowbuntuhi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd ubuntu live cd says i have some.22:39
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VCooliototo__: drag and drop the .tar.gz in the appearance window22:39
guntbertmeowbuntu: then why don't you use it? (my nick is not gunbert :-))22:39
spenserHello can anyone reccomend me to a c programming channel?22:39
VCooliototo__: or extract in ~/.icons, then select it in appearance > customize > icons22:39
snake_My microphone won't work22:40
meowbuntuwhatever guntbert dont be pickey22:40
guntbertmeowbuntu: :)22:40
spenserI'm trying to write a daemon in C that polls a couple serial ports and adds the data to a database.22:40
* meowbuntu is trying to get help but instead gets told off. I NEED HELP 22:40
snake_Mt mic won't werk22:40
guntbert!repeat | snake_22:41
ubottusnake_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.22:41
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snake_ugh22:41
meowbuntu!ask | snake_22:41
ubottusnake_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:41
DarkDigitalDreammeowbuntu, fsck helped fix my hard drive when my computer shut off while it was in mid-write. Maybe it'll help you out too22:41
iAmerikanCan anyone help me find what serial port used for bluetooth w/ my phone?22:41
meowbuntuDarkDigitalDream: i have bad sectors i was going to install, to this hdd22:42
iAmerikanI've used sdptool to find it but there are multiple entries22:42
guntbertmeowbuntu: short answer: buy a new HD22:42
meowbuntuis there a tool that i can use to scan hdd and get a readout22:42
Dr_WillisI thought the mkfs command scanned/marked sectors.. using badblocks..22:42
guntbertmeowbuntu: smartmontools could help22:42
meowbuntuok guntbert i will use another spare one. y can xp work and just ignore bad sectors and be fine22:43
spenserAnyone know of a good C programming channel for Linux?22:43
tsimpsontry ##C22:43
spenserthanks22:43
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  its very likely it will not 'be fine'22:43
DarkDigitalDreammeowbuntu, linux can ignore the bad sectors too, but if your hard drive is showing signs of trouble do you really want to trust it to hold your data?22:44
meowbuntuDr_Willis: in xp it would be22:44
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  it will work for a while till it needsd somd data from the bad sectors.. then proberly crash22:44
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  No it wont.. it will act ok for a while.. and very likely will just crash a bit more often22:44
johan__hi everyone, i have a problem installing my ati radeon 9550 display driver on ubuntu 9.10, i have looked everyhere and have only found solutions to lower versions of ubuntu22:44
iAmerikanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/361576/ which channel should I use to bind bluetooth in RFCOMM?22:44
meowbuntuDr_Willis: i know xp lables teh bad sectors and ignors them permintly and never rights to them.22:44
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  the badblocks command can scan for bad blocks.  if you wanted to. partion the drive where the bad ones are in a partion you dont use. (thats still risky)22:44
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  if some are bad.. more are likely to go bad at any time. I wouldent put anything impiorntant on that HD. Good Luck22:45
PaschuHey, how to change the size of a partition in windows???22:45
arandmeowbuntu: I know that some manufacturers supply boot disks which can re-allocate the bad sectors so thaey won't interfere, last time I tried one this involved reformatting the whole disk though... So depends on whether or not that is worth the hassle of reinstalling everything...22:45
AhoxHi, how do I display the iowait for a specific job?22:45
meowbuntuok i will use another spare hdd i have. thanks all22:45
johan__hi everyone, i have a problem installing my ati radeon 9550 display driver on ubuntu 9.10, i have looked everyhere and have only found solutions to lower versions of ubuntu22:45
quesois there a way to have windows display while resizing, instead of only displaying an outline?22:45
iAmerikanPaschu, partition magic.22:45
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  segate has tools like arand  just mentioned.22:45
lorisciao22:45
Guest49088anyone know how to turn aterm transparent?22:45
loris!list22:45
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »22:45
Dr_WillisI still dont trust hard drives  that have that22:45
meowbuntuarand: its a spare hdd. what is teh software you are refering to22:46
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  use a terminal that has the feature built in.. or use the compiz features to enabel true transparancy of any window.22:46
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  aterm might have 'fake' transpraency22:46
usserjohan__, ati dropped support for your card in the newest driver, and old drivers dont work with 9.1022:46
Guest49088ill try that22:46
Guest49088thanks22:46
meowbuntuDr_Willis: what are the applications called22:47
Paschubut partition magic is not free22:47
jolarenWhat do you use sabnzbd for? I understand it has to do with downloading and usenet but nothing else22:47
arandmeowbuntu: depending on the manufacturer of the disk, look at the their webpage for any utility/tools they might supply.22:47
iAmerikanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/361576/ which channel should I use to bind bluetooth in RFCOMM?22:47
meowbuntuok thanks arand22:48
PaschuHey, how to change the size of a partition in windows??? Parition Magic is not for free22:48
toto__ok thanks22:48
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  some tool i downloaded from the segate web site wwas what i used on my segate drive. Even after i used the tool - it 'fixed' things.. I still dont trust the drive. Its now the wifes 'videos' drive.22:48
hiexpoDr_Willis, - when you get a minute i haveone im stck on22:48
Dr_Willishiexpo:  oh? :)22:48
hiexpolol22:48
Dr_WillisGuest49088:  check 'man aterm' why are you even using aterm?22:48
iAmerikanPaschu, this isn't a windows support channel :\22:49
meowbuntuDr_Willis: arand what would i look for on segate site as its a segate hdd22:49
PaschuiAmerikan: Ow come on, its only a little question22:49
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  i dont rember. i got it over a year ago.22:49
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?22:49
Pindamanipv6?22:49
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:   You can also enter the serial# on the segate site and see if its still under warrenty. If it fails teh tests.. You can send it back. :) they replaced 2 500gb hd;s for me.22:50
erUSUL!compila22:50
erUSUL!compile22:50
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)22:50
cinalihi22:50
iAmerikanPaschu, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=partition+manager+windows+free&aq=f&aql=&aqi=g1&oq=22:50
q8sphello22:50
Wrobyo22:50
cinaliDear Ubuntu fans!22:51
hiexpoi had to do a fresh install lost my hard drive so got all my software reinstalled now no big but clamtk is outof date so i downloaded a new version no big but what is the right way to install it as an update?22:51
cinaliI ahve one question to ask if anyone can answere I aprriciate alot22:51
Dr_Willishiexpo:  i just install clamav and the front ends.. and run 'sudo freshclam' (i think)22:51
Wrobenybady know , The Sims 3 has started in Wine 1,1,36?? (Sory for my English)22:51
Dr_Willishiexpo:  i dont bother updateing the actual client/core. but im lazy :)22:51
Slartcinali: and we would appreciate it if you just asked your question....so we had a chance of trying to answer it =)22:51
hiexpoi jusok22:52
pirrehi, I'm experiencing some problems while trying to upgrade my Ubuntu, I was wondering if anyone here could help me22:52
hiexposo u dont bother with the gui22:52
azerty3hi there22:52
Dr_Willishiexpo:  perhaps this --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-clam-antivirus-with-gtk-frontend-gui.html22:52
SlartWrob: check http://appdb.winehq.org  they have a list of apps/games and reports on how good they work in wine22:52
azerty3i try to remove a package22:52
Dr_Willishiexpo:  i dont see much need for the gui22:52
hiexpoi know22:52
cvdhet there,  key to lock screen?22:53
azerty3but the old configuration come with the new installation22:53
hiexpook gonna read it thanks and i will see ya in a bit22:53
cinalihow can I write commands unter root in a terminal window22:53
Dr_Willishiexpo:  thers also the kde front end.. and proberly other front ends22:53
azerty3what to do to remove completly the package + configuraion ?22:53
meowbuntuok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,22:53
Dr_Willis!sudo | cinali22:53
ubottucinali: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)22:53
hiexpoi dont like kde22:53
Dr_Willishiexpo:  so what.. you can still use kde/qt specic apps..22:54
meowbuntu!aptitude22:54
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide22:54
Dr_WillisI always install k3b :)22:54
cvdctrl+alt+l, thanks22:54
cvdanyway22:54
cinalithanks alot guys!22:54
hiexpotrue but they seem to always hang22:54
phahey guys - I am using ubuntu.... using Deluge torrent client.... I have a 1Gbps connection.... but Deluge won't let me change the default upload any higher than 9000kbps - any reason why?22:54
Dr_Willishiexpo:  file bug reports i guess.. I never have the issue22:54
hiexpokool22:54
Neo|Desktophey everyone, where can i find the pxe images for 9.10?22:54
phaI am just seeing freeware and legit things like ubuntu/slackware/gentoo/debian/bsd - that sort of thing.22:54
pirreFeisty to Gutsy; Upgrade doesn't go through it's telling me it doesn't find the files even though I downloaded the Gutsy upgrade files already..22:55
phaAny help I would really appreciate it.22:55
Dr_Willishiexpo:  gee clamtk seems about as basic a gui as one can get. :)22:55
rzanebr10oi22:55
BenwaHi, i cannot fix my grub2 after a windows install on the same harddrive. Windows is on /dev/sda1 and ubuntu on /dev/sda2. When i turn on my computer i just have a prompt like that : grub> . Pretty bad no?22:55
hiexpoyep22:55
Rabbitbunnypha: Try to type on a single line, this channel is pretty busy.22:55
Dr_Willishiexpo:  so whats the problem with installing it? download the deb install...22:55
phaRabbitbunny, sorry mate.22:56
hiexpoi installed deb last time and it worked fine but itsat in my obsolete delete folder22:56
VCooliopirre: not supported anymore; why don't you do a fresh install with 8.04 (LTS) or more recent?22:56
Rabbitbunnypha: no problem, just saying, it will help you.22:56
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; i've already disabled ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have helped.  anyone have any ideas?22:56
phaNo worries mate, I appreciate the input - thanks.22:56
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meowbuntuok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,22:57
hiexpoit seems like that aslways happens when i install deb packs for some reason22:57
phahey guys - I am using ubuntu.... using Deluge torrent client.... I have a 1Gbps connection.... but Deluge won't let me change the default upload any higher than 9000kbps....... I am just seeing freeware and legit things like ubuntu/slackware/gentoo/debian/bsd - that sort of thing .... anyone have any ideas?22:57
pha:)22:57
Barbarenhello22:57
Dr_Willishiexpo:  i just installed the latest clamtk from the homepage of clamtk it seems to work here22:57
ubuntuno it must be a kubuntu live cd to do that22:57
pirreVCoolio: need not to lose the data on the computer... :P and I'm now trying to get this upgraded just so that I'd be able to get it even a little closer to the still supported versions22:57
BarbarenI have a quick question, if i want to set a shell variable so that it's the same everytime i start linux, how can i do that?22:57
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  you can install the other whatever-desktop packages and select what windowmanger/desktop to use from the GDM login22:57
hiexpoya thats the one i have /// did you just run the deb installer22:58
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  it can be a little annoying - your menus will show ALL items from all of them. You might not want your kde apps shown ojn gnome and so fortjh..22:58
Dr_Willishiexpo:  downloaded, double clicked..22:58
Out_Coldcan anyone figure out why i can't compile??? http://pastebin.com/d6b7b3b4022:58
Dr_Willishiexpo:  dclicked on the deb.. it installed.22:58
hiexpoya thats how i did it last time22:58
Out_Coldmaybe the doc can help :p22:58
meowbuntuDr_Willis: is there a way around this22:58
Benwanobody to help me to fix my grub2?22:59
hiexpobut it sits in the obsolete folder that way22:59
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  proberly some annoying ways.. but i dont bother.22:59
SlartOut_Cold: you installed the build-essential package?22:59
Dr_Willishiexpo:  ive never hear  of an obsolete folder..22:59
VCooliopirre: there are archive repos for old version; you can put those in your software sources; let me see if I can find the links22:59
Out_ColdSlart, of course22:59
Dr_Willishiexpo:  so i dont know what you mean22:59
hiexpoin synaptic22:59
pirreVCoolio: I've been following this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty22:59
pirreVCoolio: and honestly I've spent hours with this already22:59
VCooliopirre: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy  let me check your link23:00
Dr_Willishiexpo:  does it really matter?23:00
Dr_Willishiexpo:  it works. :)23:00
meowbuntuDr_Willis: it would be easier if i could saves instaslling a new os for everthing. i do wonder y it would display all apps thats strange really.23:00
SlartOut_Cold: hmm.. what's with that first error?  /bin/sh bad interpreter?23:00
Johnny_425how do i merge two filesystems23:00
hiexpono not really i just get picky and want everything perfect  lol23:00
Dr_Willishiexpo:  i dont see any obsolete stuff here in synaptic.23:00
joh6nnJohnny_425: that kind of depends.  what are you trying to do?23:00
hiexpoit only shows up if theres something in it23:00
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  the menu items for ALL the desktops get generated from various .desktop files..   thats how they work23:01
Out_ColdSlart, not too sure... but i think that's my issue... i have built before with ./configure and since it wasn't working i tried sh ./configure23:01
azerty3hi23:01
Johnny_425joh6nn: i'm trying to create more space23:01
MrUnix!hi | azerty323:01
ubottuazerty3: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!23:01
azerty3i want to reconfigure mysql23:01
meowbuntuDr_Willis: stuff in synaptis may not be teh latest apps its just the tested ones. the apps websites have the latest versions and test releases not synaptic23:01
azerty3i don't how to do ?23:01
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  if they were kept seperate like years ago.. people would get mad that isntalling a gnome app made no icon in their kde menus and visa versa.. so its a no win situation23:01
meowbuntuDr_Willis: you should know that though23:01
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  edit all the .desktop files as needed.. good luck.23:01
KenBW2how do i rsync the *contents* of a folder ~/Synergy to a folder ~/Synergy223:02
SlartOut_Cold: here are some suggestions.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/binsh-bad-interpreter-permission-denied-392740/23:02
joh6nnJohnny_425: yeah, but by doing what?  what two filesystems are you trying to merge?23:02
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  if theres a more elegant solution ive never seen it.23:02
jolarenCould anyone explain for me the useage of sabnzbd?23:02
Dr_Willismeowbuntu:  also if you set stuff to autostart in gnome. it MIGHT also autostart in kde.. thats either good of bad.. depening on your needs23:02
meowbuntuyea it would take a while to edit each menu seperatly. i just want an easy way to install ubuntu studio apps mainly not to fussed with kubuntu23:02
azerty3hello23:03
Dr_Willisubuntu studio last i chekced is jsut a set of apps that are in the normal repos.. and a fancier themes. actually they MIGHT use a realtime kernel.. im not sure23:03
azerty3is there anyone know how to reconfigure mysql ?23:03
SlartOut_Cold: hmm.. where are these files located? on an ext2/3/4 disk? or somewhere else? ntfs perhaps?23:03
jellowI get only back ground noise , even when i reboot i still hear it , the only way to i can stop is buy force unloading alsa , Can some one help me please23:04
Piciazerty3: What do you mean? What are you trying to do?23:04
Out_ColdSlart, inside a lvm on ext4 located across ssh23:05
azerty3i try to install a package which require mysql i made mistake during the installation phase23:05
azerty3now i need to unistall it23:05
azerty3and to reconfigure23:05
Out_ColdSlart, i'm going to try relocating the files to a /tmp location and try from there23:06
Piciazerty3: What version of mysql did you install?23:06
ubuntuput in a boot disk and chose the partion you want to get rid of23:07
SlartOut_Cold: it was just something I found when googling around for that error message.. not sure if it's the same issue you're having23:07
h2g2bobazerty3: you could run synaptic, right click on the mysql packages and select reinstall?23:08
Piciazerty3: You need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-VERSION     where VERSION is the version number of mysql that you have installed.23:08
Out_ColdSlart, not sure why i can't build.. never had this issue before until i was trying to install the /etc/init.d/nfs-common23:08
Out_Cold!info nfs-utils23:09
ubottuPackage nfs-utils does not exist in karmic23:09
Out_Coldbite me bot23:09
MrUnixUbottu is a bot. Please don't think he's intelligent. =P23:09
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:09
Out_ColdMrUnix, i was assuming quite the opposite ;)23:10
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jellowI get only back ground noise , even when i reboot i still hear it , the only way to i can stop is buy force unloading alsa , Can some one help me please23:10
azerty3version 5.1.3723:10
DarkDigitalDreamjellow, I live in a small country home several months of the year and experience the same thing. In my case it is because the house is not properly grounded23:11
MrUnixazerty3, do like they said and run synaptic, find mysql and right-click to choose 'reinstall". Then apply the changes.23:11
kickarhey guys what do i need to listen to online radio ?23:11
kickari have a pls file but cant open it23:11
MrUnixkickar, speakers23:11
DarkDigitalDreamkickar, speakers, for a start ;)23:11
DarkDigitalDreamah, beat to the punch23:11
azerty3that what i have to done23:11
* MrUnix high-fives DarkDigitalDream 23:12
Out_Coldkickar, rhythmbox works nice23:12
kickarOut_Cold,  any plugins ?23:12
jellowDarkDigitalDream: but if i force-unload alsa it stops23:12
kickari cant listen with it23:12
Out_Coldkickar, depends on the stream i suppose, but not usually23:12
azerty3using synaptic it don't ask me to reconfigure the file23:12
h2g2bobkickar: pls is a text file with a list of mp3s. Movie player is a good a choice imho23:12
Out_Coldh2g2bob, pls can be a radio http link as well23:13
kickarh2g2bob,  i am talking about this streaming radios ..23:13
Out_Coldh2g2bob, it's a generic playlist23:13
DarkDigitalDreamjellow, hmm... I dont know enough about alsa to say. I think you are right though. A ground issue would not care if alsa is using your sound card or not23:13
ubuntudo you use last fm23:13
Out_Coldbbs need to move the truck23:14
bikcmpHello all; I'm trying to install ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to my netbook23:14
bikcmpand it installs23:14
BlueSherpais it possible to use a raid system while it's Migrating?23:14
bikcmpwith wubi btw23:14
bikcmpand then when I reboot it gets a grub:sh shell23:14
Out_Cold!enter > bikcmp23:14
ubottubikcmp, please see my private message23:14
ubuntuuse flash usb divice23:14
bikcmpOut_Cold: sorry about that23:14
Benwaj'imagine que je ne peux pas réparer mon grub2 avec un alternate-cd, si?23:15
jellowDarkDigitalDream: this has happened on Windows aswell , My comuter is a cruel mistress23:15
Benwaoups wrong window, sorry23:15
bikcmpubuntu: Nope, can't do that, i have windows on it23:15
jazz join the #ubuntu-classroom23:15
RandomUsrhello23:15
DarkDigitalDreamjellow, if it happens in windows as well, it is not an alsa issue and is likely a hardware issue. Grounding MIGHT be the cause. Poor sound card quality could do it as well. I'm a software oriented person, and this falls outside my expertise.23:16
jophishWould it be possible to configure sshd to allow anyone to login from the local lan (192.168.0.xxx) but to only allow one user to login from the internet?23:16
DarkDigitalDreamjellow, have you tried different speakers?23:16
bikcmpi've read this is a bug in grub2; tried all the fixes23:17
bikcmpno luck23:17
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jazz#ubuntu-classroom23:18
jellowDarkDigitalDream: I only use ear phones , i have tried several all the same.23:19
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jophishWould it be sufficient to "AllowUsers sleeper *.*.*.* \ AllowUsers * 192.168.0.*"23:19
jophishso anyone can login from the lan, but only sleeper can login from anywhere23:19
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RandomUsrtrying to configure samba, but I can't seem to get the authentication right. How can I ensure that the settings are appropriate without using testparm?23:20
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glickexcuse me how do ai take a screenshot?23:20
glickof a specific window?23:21
MrUnixglick, Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot23:21
danyRglick: just select that window and press Alt + Prt Sc23:22
bikcmpIs the grub:sh shell a bug?23:22
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help23:22
glickMrUnix, where does it place the image?23:23
bikcmpIll try #ubuntu-boot23:23
MrUnixglick, I'm not sure off the top of my head. Pictures? I can check.23:23
snoopyHow can I check how much ram my pc has?23:23
imp|homeImage taken is left in the clipboard. Paste it into GIMP or other photo editor.23:23
jellowDarkDigitalDream: Il try a live cd before i though it out the window23:23
MrUnixglick, Desktop or Pictures.23:23
h2g2bobjophish: this man page says it should be a space seperated list of user or user@host items - http://man-wiki.net/index.php/5:sshd_config23:23
bikcmpsnoopy: I would get a sysinfo app23:24
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glicknope23:24
glicknone of those23:24
ganymedejoh6nn, do you have a broadcom chipset? if so, try pinging your access point. if your pings are above 100 or 200 ms, then maybe it's because network-manager scans for APs every few seconds. in that case, try switching to wicd23:24
jophishoh sure, h2g2bob but apart from the syntax, that setup should do what I want?23:24
danyRsnoopy: sistem > administration > system monitor23:24
IceDaneSo.. In the hypothetical situation where one's girlfriend accidentally turns off the socket to which your ubuntu server is connected as it's dist-upgrading, what can I expect to happen?23:24
joh6nnganymede: no, atheros23:24
ganymedejoh6nn, oh, beats me... =/23:24
imp|homere: prtsrc Ok I just tried it, a menu should popup and ask you where you want to save it.23:25
DarkDigitalDreamjellow, with some quick online searching, grounding seems to be the most likely cause. this might seem like an odd way to troubleshoot, but does touching the metal on your computer case and/or the headphone jack solve the problem? You can basically use your body to ground home electronics this way.23:25
jophishIceDane, you leave your girlfriend?23:25
joh6nnIceDane: i'd say yank the drive, back it up, and then try to install from cd23:25
danyRIceDane: it depends. was it in the download part or in the installation?23:26
macoIceDane: you can try to finish the install "sudp dpkg --configure -a"23:26
IceDanedanyR: Installation, I believe23:26
h2g2bobjophish: I think that's right. You shouldn't need the *.*.*.* - just sleeper will do.23:26
IceDane"Unpacking replacement..." etc23:26
jophishIceDane, although I have lots power when dist-upgrading, booted back up and all was fine and I managed to upgrade properly23:26
jophishok, thanks h2g2bob23:26
IceDaneYeah, it wouldn't be a problem if I could just SSH back in23:26
IceDaneheh =)23:26
danyRIceDane: ups...23:27
IceDaneI don't even have a monitor - this is a laptop23:27
neil_ddoes ubuntu have a small install iso like debians net install system?23:27
imp|homeIceDane: install VirtualBox and try it, you can yank the virtual cable anytime you want.23:27
MrUnixIceDane, Laptops don't have monitors?23:27
IceDaneMrUnix: They do, but they don't have input ports for video, at least most don't23:27
jophishMrUnix, might be hard to use a laptop as a display device23:27
MrUnixIceDane, I gotcha.23:28
iAmerikanCan anyone help me connect to my phone via an rfcomm binded serial port on BitPim?23:28
IceDaneWhen I just started the dist upgrade, an emergency ssh daemon was started in case ssh would go wrong(the default one), it was 9000, I think, but it might have been 9000 and something.. Anyone happen to know this?23:28
Slart!minimal | neil_d23:28
ubottuneil_d: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:28
neil_dSlart: just what I was looking for.. thanks23:28
IceDanebrb, leaving gf.23:29
iAmerikanCan anyone help me connect to my phone via an rfcomm binded serial port on BitPim? followed http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2007/12/using-a-bluetooth-phone-with-linux.ars23:29
jibberiaevenin' - gparted question. booted off cd. made a bunch of (significant) changes, hit "apply" and the gparted window disappeared -- and the cd-rom drive is making repetitive thrashy sounds (as in, it sounds like it's having trouble reading)23:30
iAmerikansince I can't install gnome-vfx-obexftp23:30
jibberiathink it b0rked my drive already?23:30
aeromaxRight. So I'm trying to run ubuntu without ruining my shit.23:30
aeromaxNot working.23:30
jibberiai can't imagine why it would need to read from the CD-ROM once it's doing its thing...?23:30
aeromaxAny suggestions?23:30
joh6nnaeromax: ?23:30
aeromaxI've installed it on a partition on my laptop23:30
aeromaxIt checks installation23:30
jibberiaaeromax: how bad?23:30
MrUnixaeromax, Please watch your language, this is a family chat.23:30
h2g2bobjibberia: see if it's still running with system monitor?23:31
aeromaxOh, right. It hasn't actually borned me23:31
aeromax*borked23:31
aeromax"The selected partition already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk"23:31
jibberiah2g2bob: i'm running the gparted live cd23:31
jibberiai know this is a bit out of ubuntu scope23:31
jibberiabut the OS in question is ubuntu23:31
aeromaxI've only booted to ubuntu like once before because I'm constantly afraid I'll do something wrong and destroy my windows partition23:32
og01ok gnu screen is giving me trouble, I've changed the profile to plain but its still using the bottom two lines for hardstatus, how can i get rid of the crappy bottom two lines when using screen in ubuntu (prefably without restarting my session)23:32
aeromaxAnd I don't have the installation CD with me23:32
aeromax:-(23:32
MrUnixaeromax, Your windows and Ubuntu partitions are seperated. You won't hurt your windows part unless your really asinine with it.23:32
duckx0rI have a problem with local mailing. When I send a mail to a local user, it gets delivered to my local maildir store and when I connect via IMAP to my localhost I can retrieve the mail, but when I try viewing it by typing mail it says "no mail for {user}"23:32
jibberiah2g2bob: there are icons for terminal, info, and some other junk, but nothing seems to work.23:32
aeromaxAll right. Well, now that that's set, I still can't run anything23:32
aeromaxI booted into ubuntu like 5mins ago and it's refusing to finish loading23:32
jibberiai'm just wondering if pressing "apply" in gparted instantly modifies the table, and then goes on to do its data magic23:33
aeromaxright now I've got the sunbeam background and a dialog box telling me23:33
aeromax"The selected partition already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk"23:33
Kubitthis is just plain silly... :p it's not recognizing the password I selected for my nick..23:33
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Kubitoh wrong channel sorry23:33
aeromax"Please uninstall these before trying again"23:33
aeromaxso do I go into /ubuntu/disks and delete root.disk and reload everything from the CD or is there something I can do from the boot menu23:34
aeromaxpartition 1 of /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda23:34
aeromaxAnd then "no root file system is defined"23:34
jibberiah2g2bob: i know this is a tough question.... aaaany advice is appreciated23:34
aeromaxWhat does this even mean23:34
jibberiait feels like it's hung trying to read from the cd, but i'm scared to death to reboot23:35
h2g2bobjibberia: it's a bit outside my comfort zone too - any way to get into some sort of shell?23:36
Trekaeromax: you can just go into the LiveCD and reinstall your Ubuntu OS and nuke the old stuff, right?23:36
MrUnixjibberia, What's the issue?23:36
jibberiai'll paste, hang on23:36
aeromaxNuke the old ubuntu stuff? Sure.23:36
jibberia(broken left wrist)23:36
aeromaxBut what did I screw up the first time?23:36
jibberiagparted question. booted off cd. made a bunch of (significant) changes, hit "apply" and the gparted window disappeared -- and the cd-rom drive is making repetitive thrashy sounds (as in, it sounds like it's having trouble reading)23:36
aeromaxI installed it into a different partition and only booted into ubuntu once23:37
sunrunner20so whats teh difference between 'desktop' and 'alternate'?23:37
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erUSUL!alternate | sunrunner2023:37
ubottusunrunner20: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal23:37
Trekaeromax: not sure, maybe the install CD is just borked.  seen it a few times23:37
aeromax(I don't know if it's a different partition, I'm pretty sure but I did it a couple months ago and can't really remember, but I can boot into windows or ubuntu)23:37
sunrunner20k, thx23:37
h2g2bobjibberia: You could check the hard disk activity light as well - silly suggestion but worth looking23:37
aeromaxThe first time I ran it everything worked fine23:37
sunrunner20coulden't find it searching23:37
jibberiah2g2bob: good suggestion. been looking at it23:38
aeromaxthen the next time it gave me this spiel about blah blah clearing something and I was under the impression it was screwing with Windows files and then I turned it off because i was scared ;_;23:38
jibberiait repeatedly makes one blink each time the cd drive makes a bad sound23:38
TrekTHAT'S why aeromax23:38
Treki think...23:38
jibberialike a "laser bounce all the way from once side to the other" sound23:38
jibberiawha-chunk!23:38
aeromaxBut why can't I just have it resume where it left off?23:38
Treki'm not sure aeromax.  probably someone else would know though23:39
h2g2bobjibberia: i guess probably not doing anything - if it's moving data (resizing partitions, etc) it would probably be lit up quite a lot23:39
aeromaxAnyone else?23:39
jibberiawhy on earth would it need to read from the cd!? this machine only has ~450mb ram (512 - graphics)... maybe that's why?23:39
jibberiai agree23:39
thrhrhhey23:39
rastaman_join #ubuntu-charlar23:39
thrhrhanyone ever install jondo ?23:40
jibberiabut i wonder if the "apply" button modifies the partition table, and then goes on to do the data magic.23:40
jibberiaso if i restart now, i'm b0rked.23:40
thrhrhi'm trying to install jondo23:40
jibberiagoogling seems to reveal that gparted takes about an hour for a 40gb volume, and this one is ~25-30, so maybe i'll wait it out for a while longer...23:41
thrhrhbut for some reason i can't get the rep to work23:41
pasjrdose any one use dose any one use vm.swappiness23:41
jibberiago smoke cigarettes and grumble and fidget...?23:41
jibberiadose any one use copy paste?23:41
jibberiahehe23:41
jibberia;)23:41
jibberiai don't mess w/ swappiness, but i'd like to someda23:42
jibberia+y23:42
h2g2bobjibberia: if theres any way to get to a shell you should be able to see if it's still running23:42
pasjrI am trying to find out a good number to use between 0-10023:43
jibberiathere's a shell icon, but i can't get it to start up23:43
jibberiamaybe if i click really often.... i think the UI is blocking between disk reads or something23:43
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thrhrhso no one knows about jondo ?23:43
jibberiamm, nah, the mouse works well23:43
jibberiai know 0 about jondo, sry23:43
thrhrhits cool23:44
h2g2bobjibberia: does it have ctrl+alt+f_something?23:44
* jibberia tries23:44
jibberiaooooooooooooo23:44
benji_Is there a way to get the default main.cf postfix conf file bundled with the distrib?23:44
thrhrhdo you know how to add an pgp key23:44
thrhrhhttp://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo/download/linux23:44
erUSUL!find main.cf23:44
duckx0rhow can I make it so that the "mail" command uses my maildir store in ~/Maildir ?23:45
jolarenCould someone please tell me the point in having Sabnzbd? what does it doo23:45
ubottuFile main.cf found in dspam-doc, kolabd, mailreader, postfix, postfix-doc (and 15 others)23:45
jibberiah2g2bob: YES thank you23:45
jibberiaATAPI error23:45
jibberiacd rom is fukt23:45
aeromaxHey, guys23:45
h2g2bobjibberia:  ps -ef | less  will list processes23:45
aeromaxWild question here23:45
oneinchHi. I am fairly new to ubuntu and I have recently installed icecast2. I cannot get into the /etc/icecast2 directory. is there a proper, ubuntu way to get in the directory?23:45
aeromaxWhat are ACPI workarounds23:45
jibberiayeah shell expert here23:45
jibberiabut i never use GUIs23:45
aeromaxand what happens if I boot into them?23:45
jibberia*rarely23:45
aeromaxfrom the boot menu23:45
h2g2bobjibberia: cool23:45
benji_<erUSUL> how can I see it?23:45
ownerhello. I have a problem. Every time I log in to my computer I have to manually tell the screen resolution to go to 1024x768. It goes to 600x800 by default.23:45
joh6nni'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help23:46
ownerAt the GDM it is 1024x76823:46
erUSULbenji_: acording to apt-file all that packages have a file named like that including postfix23:46
ownerI'm using NVIDIA 6100 onboard23:46
brophati have the 9.04 UNR img file, so how do I make the USB disk from it?23:46
erUSULbenji_: dpgk -L postfix | grep main.cfg23:46
benji_<erUSUL> is there a way to see it without install it?23:46
ownerI edited my xorg.conf as root but that didn't work.23:46
benji_I mean the content of this file23:46
h2g2bobjibberia: gparted starts up subprocesses with the command line resizing tools, etc. so don't just look for gparted :)23:47
erUSULbenji_: maybe in packages.ubuntu.com dunno23:47
ownerI deleted the 800x600 setting in Xorg.conf but that didn't work.23:47
erUSULbenji_: or ask someone to paste it for you23:47
brophatI am using mac23:47
ownerthe monitor is a SyncMaster 930b23:47
erUSULbenji_: i do not have postfix so i can not23:47
jibberiai'm seeing repeated CD-ROM read errors23:47
thrhrhi'm going so crazy i'm going to eat my own caca23:47
jibberiaso hopefully, dear god, the "apply" button didn't actually work yet23:47
ownerIs anyone paying attention to what I'm saying?23:47
brophatthe website says mac can't use the current 9.10 iso, so use the 9.04 img file and do it the old way, but they never said what the old way was bwahahahha23:48
jibberiaowner: i wasn't23:48
* jibberia reads23:48
ownerjibberia thanks.23:48
jibberiaowner: sorry, no advice :(23:48
erUSULowner: imposible if it is spread in over 5 lines in between 20 others. keep your question in one line with as much detail as you can23:48
thrhrhi'm going so crazy i'm going to eat my own caca23:48
erUSUL!enter23:48
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!23:48
AndreMorro[BR]QUESTION - where can I found Karmic for PowerPC?23:49
ownererUSUL ubottu sorry. Just thought of different things at different times.23:49
erUSUL!ppc23:49
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ23:49
AndreMorro[BR]erUSUL, !thankyou23:49
jazz#ubuntu-classroom23:50
outer_spacehow do you find out what kind of filesystem is on an external hdd, its not in 'properties'23:50
thrhrhhey so i'm trying to add this repository and it tells me to that the repository is signed with the OpenPGP key23:50
thrhrhit gives me a pgp key23:50
erUSULouter_space: if it is mounted just check « cat /proc/mounts »23:51
thrhrhhow can i add it23:51
SmartSsaouter_space, you can open a terminal and just type 'mount' - it will tell you all the mounted disks as well as their type.23:51
erUSUL!gpgerr | thrhrh23:51
ubottuthrhrh: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key> && gpg --export --armor <key> | sudo apt-key add - »23:51
outer_spacesmartssa ty23:51
blekoshello, anyone knows any alternative to cryptload for linux?23:51
erUSULblekos: what does cryptload do?23:51
ownerIf you guys can't answer my previous question then can you tell me how to tell my computer exactly what monitor I have?23:52
jazz #ubuntu-classroom-chat23:52
outer_spaceso what does type fuseblk mean for a hd format?23:52
erUSULjazz: /j #ubuntu-classroom-chat23:52
duckx0rhow can I make it so that the "mailx" command looks for mail in my maildir store in ~/Maildir instead of /var/mail/$USER ?23:52
jazzthank you  haha23:52
erUSULouter_space: paste the full line23:52
blekosit is  a downloader, that you can insert your e.g rapidhsare credentials and automatically download the links from rapidshare23:52
outer_space/dev/sdb1 /media/42DC58ECDC58DBAB fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 023:52
erUSULblekos: try tucan23:53
outer_spacei put it into a macbook and it cant write to it! how useless is a hdd that macbooks cant write to!23:53
=== Trek is now known as I
erUSULouter_space: should be ntfs via fuse and ntfs-3g23:53
outer_spaceneed to find out what format its in23:53
blekoshm i will give it a try23:53
=== I is now known as iShallResist
outer_spaceoh ya thats what fuse means23:53
outer_spaceguess i have to install it on the macbook too23:53
thrhrhthanks but how do i add a .asc file as a key23:53
IceDaneI think my box is completely and utterly thunder.. smitten.23:53
=== iShallResist is now known as Trek
thrhrhi tried running synaptic23:54
thrhrhand adding it manually23:54
erUSULthrhrh: probaly → sudo apt-key add file.asc23:54
thrhrhbut it didn't help23:54
thrhrhlet me try23:54
thrhrhthanks23:54
thrhrhwhere should i download the file too23:55
thrhrhto run that command23:55
morph_someone have problem with flashplayer plugib?23:55
thrhrhi have the file currently in downloads23:56
thrhrhshould i move it else where23:56
puszyis there possibility to install netbook's windows drivers on ubuntu? i mean power system23:57
erUSULpuszy: no windows drivers do not work in linux23:57
erUSULpuszy: only exception netrwork drivers via ndiswrapper but they are buggy23:58
erUSULallways better to get a native driver23:58
puszyso i have to find the sam thing as linux packeges?23:58
erUSULpuszy: probably; what are you trying to do ?23:59
thrhrhgot it23:59
thrhrhthanks so much23:59
thrhrhi don't have to eat my caca now !!!23:59
thrhrh=)23:59
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