[00:00] <linxeh> see zipsplit, zip etc
[00:00] <erUSUL> xim_: seems like the zip program in linux is less capable than winzip and its ilk :)
[00:00] <linxeh> just use zipsplit
[00:00] <mick__> on the contrary, its mmore powerful
[00:00] <infid> mick__ why would you do that when could have bought them both windows licenses for over 100 dollars each and get to deal with reinstalling it all the time when they get malware/virus infested?
[00:00] <krad> stfu
[00:00] <krad> mick__
[00:00] <erUSUL> xim_: either way; unix moto is "do one thing and do it well" use zip; split and cat
[00:01] <linxeh> krad: ?
[00:01] <mick__> lol infid
[00:01] <krad> abusing my pm
[00:01] <mick__> im pming ou?
[00:01] <krad> wait
[00:01] <krad> sorry it's miip
[00:01] <linxeh> erUSUL: or use zipsplit rather than split if you want anyone else to make sense of it
[00:01] <krad> but anyway, stfu you too
[00:01] <krad> lmao
[00:01] <mick__> awww yoru a sweety krad :-P
[00:01] <xim_> linxeh, is zipslipt not in the repos?
[00:01] <erUSUL> linxeh: ok pint taken ;)
[00:02] <krad> mick__, faggot
[00:02] <linxeh> xim_: I already have it on my ubuntu box
[00:02] <mick__> righteo krad.
[00:03] <xim_> its seeming less and less likely i can get this file split in the next hour
[00:03] <linxeh> dpkg -S `which zipsplit`
[00:03] <linxeh> zip: /usr/bin/zipsplit
[00:03] <Pici> krad, mick__ : This is a support channel. Lets keep it civil and on-topic.  If you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic , but please mind the /topic in there as well.
[00:03] <mick__> linuxeh..another motto is ''unix is user friendly, just choosy about who it is friendly with''
[00:03] <mick__> i am trying thankyou
[00:03] <linxeh> xim_: if you have "zip" then you should have zipsplit
[00:03] <mick__> thank you pici
[00:03] <xim_> ahh i see
[00:03] <xim_> linxeh, thx
[00:03] <mick__> first time in here or on irc
[00:04] <mick__> in the classrooms tomorrow do you think they will touch dns/ftp setup and lockdown?
[00:04] <linxeh> mick__: 15+ years of linux, and no IRC ?
[00:04] <gui7> ello
[00:04] <revelnick> does this really have any advantage over the kernel cache? http://talks.php.net/show/acc_php/35
[00:04] <mick__> no :-)
[00:04] <mazda01> ne1 have successful burns with TDK dvd+r's?
[00:04] <mick__> i have mazda yes
[00:04] <linxeh> mazda01: yup
[00:04] <blakkheim> !u | mazda01
[00:05] <gui7> i'm on a pc; i'd like to triple-boot win7, mac os x, and ubuntu using the grub bootloader. i can't seem to find any complete/proper tutorials using GRUB, anyone know hwo to do this?
[00:05] <linxeh> mazda01: as many as other brands anyway
[00:05] <mick__> i had to switch down to +8 speed though
[00:05] <mick__> will mac work with grub?
[00:05] <daftykins> gui7: that's a bit off topic really.
[00:06] <mick__> afaik it tries to grab the bootloader
[00:06] <daftykins> macs use EFI, only bootcamp partition OS's could use GRUB chainloaded i think.
[00:06] <gui7> daftykins, is it? i've gotten help with these things here before tho :)
[00:06] <mazda01> linxeh, well, i just bought some generic garbage from best buy 25 dvd-r's and they are all bad! i can't believe that not just one dvd burner in my computer went bad, but both????
[00:06] <mick__> mazda are they scratched?
[00:07] <gui7> perhaps i could delete windows' + mac's own bootloaders and then add in entries to grub?
[00:07] <mick__> or if they have been on display they will suffer uv degradation of the plastic too
[00:07] <mick__> what about setting up linux as dom0 and running them as VMs with XEN
[00:07] <xim_> so how do i get file roller to package up rar files, the file compression link only seems to cover unraring them
[00:08] <bikcmp> Hello all, I get a error when using make
[00:08] <pen16> how long before audio works on Linux without all the problems
[00:08] <pen16> 5 yrs?
[00:08] <mick__> sorry xim not too sure it does have plugins as far as i can recall
[00:08] <mazda01> gonna buy a new lite-on dh-24aas, anyone else know if that's a re-branded piece of junk, or is it a decent lite-on model? buying from tigerfdirect for $29.99
[00:08] <bikcmp> http://pastebin.com/d6ca8434b
[00:08] <gui7> pen16, the million-dollars question :P
[00:09] <sebsebseb> pen16: that depends on the distro, how well audio works or doesn't work, to some extent
[00:09] <mick__> pen16 I have been using linux with audio for the last 12 at least
[00:09] <mick__> no problems :)
[00:09] <Pici> mazda01: Best to ask in ##hardware for that
[00:09] <mick__> I stick to standard cards though
[00:09] <sebsebseb> pen16: there are a few ways audio can be done, and it's pulseaudio that is known to get the issues
[00:09] <mazda01> Pici, there's a linux hardware channel?
[00:09] <Schui> anyone know of a good place to buy ubuntu laptops?
[00:09] <mick__> in what country?
[00:10] <mick__> Schui, what country?
[00:10] <mazda01> Pici, i have been having issues wodim and dvd+rw tools, so i am not even sure I need to buy a new drie but I figure $29.99 isn't bad
[00:10] <sebsebseb> pen16: What kind of sound problems you got?
[00:10] <Schui> mick_, united states
[00:10] <pen16> It may be possible to avoid problems with audio if you are mostly using desktop applications. All I do is music so, I use some audio production apps and therefore they all pretty much use different audio daemons
[00:10] <mick__> ah not off the top of my head sorry :-(
[00:10] <xim_> can file roller not create rar archives? or anything splitable? it says it only splits 7zip and rar, but cant make either of those types
[00:10] <pen16> Not just what the distro ships for basic desktop sound support
[00:10] <mick__> I know there is one in the uk alright
[00:10] <pen16> So there's all kinds of problems
[00:10] <Schui> what is it anyways? :)
[00:10] <pen16> basically endless :X
[00:10] <Pici> mazda01: I'm not familiar with those tools, so I probably can't help. Sorry.
[00:11] <mick__> two minutes let me find the ad in the mag
[00:11] <Pici> Schui: Dell sells computers with Ubuntu on them. As well as System 76.
[00:11] <pen16> sound surely could work for regular ol' programs
[00:11] <mazda01> Pici, wodim is what k3b and almost every gui image burning software uses.
[00:11] <Schui> ty pici
[00:11] <cegorach> anybody know an archive format that is compatible with ubuntu and supports larch archive files?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> pen16: by default the distro will be using pulseaudio,  which can be disabled some how, don't know how,  and even removed which isn't really a good idea.
[00:12] <pen16> sebsebseb: Yes, the regular stuff for the distro is fine, but the "musician programs" aren't under the tight scrutiny of the Ubuntu team to integrated into a regular desktop
[00:12] <pen16> they're more undergroundish
[00:12] <gui7> if i install windows 7 and then ubuntu, will grub allow me to boot straight into win7 or will i have to  then re-choose windows 7 in 7's own bootloader?
[00:12] <pen16> so they all use different sound systems
[00:13] <sebsebseb> gui7: Grub will allow both to boot, but Ubuntu will be the default, but that can be changed
[00:13] <pen16> some use ESD, some use pulseaudio, some use jack, some use ALSA directly
[00:13] <pen16> and you gotta make it all work together to have a functioning music system
[00:13] <sebsebseb> gui7: one will automatically load by default, and that one is Ubuntu
[00:13] <mazda01> Pici, dvd+rw-tools dvd+rw-tools makes it possible to burn DVD images created by dvdauthor or genisoimage to DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, and DVD-RW
[00:13] <mazda01>  disks, replacing cdrecord-proDVD in many cases.
[00:14] <Andorin> Hey, guys? I'm on 64-bit Karmic. I have the package flashplugin-installer installed, but no Flash in Firefox 3.6. Anyone know why?
[00:14] <mazda01> sorry for pasting, i thought it would paste on one line
[00:14] <mick__> Schui:  http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/lenovo/
[00:15] <acicula> cegorach: bz2+tar ?
[00:15] <mick__> for the music stuff think i came across an article sometime ago in ubuntucircle magazine(online free pdf mag devoted to ubuntu)
[00:15] <cegorach> acicula: is that windows compatible?
[00:15] <acicula> pen16: just pukse and audio will do(or is the default), esd is dead(i hope anyway)
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Andorin: not on Ubuntu right now,  so uhmm   3.6 hrm, is that one you installed yourself directly from Mozilla,  or the one that comes in Ubuntu that has been updated?
[00:16] <pen16> right now I'm trying to get  PulseAudio, ESD, OSS, ALSA, Jack, to all work together and I it's highly stressful
[00:16] <acicula> cegorach: nope, then you have to stick to zip
[00:16] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Installed it myself.
[00:16] <acicula> pen16: why?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Andorin: ok that's what I thought
[00:16] <pen16> i just wanna make music :(
[00:16] <acicula> jackal: is for professional stuff
[00:16] <acicula> err pen16
[00:16] <mick__> pen16 see my last post :)
[00:16] <acicula> *jack is
[00:16] <cegorach> acicula: damn... the files i need to transfer are too big for a zip file, and my install doesn't seem to want to cooperate with openrar
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Andorin: ok what you installed probably works in  the other Firefox, tried that?
[00:17] <pen16> on windows there's like 2 ways of sound working and every program supports both of them :)
[00:17] <Pici> pen16: Take a look at the audio section here for a list of music production applications in Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[00:17] <acicula> cegorach: you can split archives with rar
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Andorin: if you would have to install Flash yourself,  and make sure it's in the plugins folder for Firefox 3.6, or something like this
[00:17] <pen16> Pici: That list is very mainstream
[00:17] <pen16> I use trackers and stuff
[00:18] <pen16> things not on the list
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Andorin: I think you would... above  (I don't like when I type the wrong words)
[00:18] <cegorach> acicula: but when i transfer it to my ubuntu box, the archive opens, but i cant get any of the files to extract from the archive
[00:18] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Yes, Flash works in Firefox 3.5. I guess I can poke around and see whether it installed correctly for 3.6.
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Andorin: right that's what I am getting at
[00:18] <pen16> I'm curious though, is PulseAudio set to become the standard, "for reals this time!" ?
[00:18] <pen16> like really
[00:19] <pen16> or is there a new project set to replace it already  :X :X
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Andorin: what you installed, is  probably only really for  Firefox 3.5  and  other browsers that use the same Flash  that you can get from the repo such as  Galeon and  Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser  just epiphany and a game gets installed)
[00:20] <Andorin> sebsebseb: Yeah, I know about Epiphany... I suppose I just figured that my Flash version would be compatible with the new Firefox by default.
[00:21] <sebsebseb> pen16: pulseaudio has been the default since Ubuntu 8.04
[00:21] <pen16> is it gonna stay though, long term?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> pen16: it's also the default  for many other distros now as well
[00:21] <pen16> 10 years?
[00:21] <pen16> what is the Linux equivalent of ASIO?
[00:22] <erdemoztrk> Hi there
[00:22] <sebsebseb> pen16: one of those distros I know pulseaudio can easilly be disabled,  I wonder how that's done in Ubuntu
[00:22] <erUSUL> pen16: you use jack instead of PA for professional audio and the -rt kernel
[00:23] <pen16> erUSUL: what's minimum latency?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Andorin: by the way why did you want to get the other Firefox?
[00:23] <Schui> so i have a question, not really a problem. i remember hearing about people installing games to their external hard drive and then playing off there instead of using up system resources, i wonder if you could do the same in linux?
[00:24] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:24] <erUSUL> pen16: that i dunno maybe you should ask in #ubuntustudio or other more specialized audio on linux forum
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Schui: sure, but  playing a game from an external hard drive,  I think might mean it will be a bit slower,  whatever OS is being run
[00:24] <erdemoztrk> Can somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code?
[00:24] <Andorin> sebsebseb: No particular reason... just wanted to try it out, and stick with it if it worked.
[00:25] <Schui> seb - yeah, it might be slow unless you used usb2.0 or something
[00:25] <erdemoztrk> Can somebody help me to install BitTorrent-5.3-GPL from its souce code
[00:26] <Black_Phantom> I have heard that Ubuntu 10.04 will be on a DVD only, is that true ?
[00:26] <erUSUL> Black_Phantom: no
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Andorin: right, but it probably doesn't offer that much advantage from 3.5, and the next Ubuntu Desktop version will have 3.6 or later by default
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: no
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Black_Phantom: something about how Kubuntu only fits on a DVD at the moment or something like that, anyway #ubuntu+1 for Lucid stuff
[00:27] <Schui> so do you think you could install windows games to an external and play them on linux?
[00:27] <Black_Phantom> oh ok
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Schui: Windows games oh right
[00:27] <gui7> does grub2 correctly recognize windows7?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Schui: that's good in a way,  means you woudn't have to  put partitiosn such as /usr or whever native Linux programs get installed, onto your external hard disk
[00:27] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:28] <sebsebseb> gui7: should do yes
[00:28] <Schui> sebsebseb, do you think it would work? like you could play the games off the external even though they are for windows?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Schui: you would run Windows games, in  Wine, or commercial versions of it,  or  a Windows virtual machine
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Schui: quite a lot of these games will work quite well  in Wine, but quite a lot won't work well in Wine, or well they will  after you configured a bit
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Schui: ,but configuring isn't easy
[00:29] <Schui> yeah i tried to install ut2004, it was too much of a pain so i gave up
[00:29] <DaZ> isn't ut2k4 for linux?
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Schui: by default Wine puts it's hidden .wine folder in  Home
[00:29] <DaZ> >:
[00:30] <Schui> yeah daz, but i couldnt get sound to work
[00:30] <Schui> seb, i will have to try this :)
[00:30] <acicula> sebsebseb: gstreamer-properties lets you change whats used by gnome
[00:30] <chilli0> Hello . I tryed to install any program but get this http://pastebin.com/m205befee Please help
[00:30] <DaZ> Schui: echo $SDL_AUDIODRIVER
[00:31] <acicula> Schui: external disks work, but USB limits transfer speed significantly
[00:31] <sebsebseb> Schui:  the .wine folder you should be able to use from an external hard disk, as far as I know.   I think you would just then have to tell wine config where  .wine is located.  and point any wine program shorcuts to your external hard disk, or something like this.   Anyway #winehq  is a good channel to be asking Wine questions.
[00:31] <googleit> ok so my bluetooth doesnt work
[00:31] <wolter> googleit
[00:31] <googleit> bluez wont read my adapter
[00:31] <sebsebseb> Schui: plus you can open wine programs up  using the terminal
[00:31] <googleit> blueman doesnt resolve the problem
[00:32] <grendal_prime> is anyone having a problem with 910 just freezing?
[00:32] <grendal_prime> im wondering if it has anything to do with ext4
[00:32] <acicula> googleit: is there a hci device? check with hciconfig
[00:32] <mick__> not for me on intel hardware
[00:32] <mick__> in fact 910 best for my laptop since 704
[00:32] <googleit> i have logitech
[00:32] <sebsebseb> acicula: oh right pen16  wants to know that
[00:32] <googleit> 2.0 edr
[00:33] <Jasonrj> I tried the Ubuntu live CD, then I rebooted into Win7 again and now my clock is 4 hours off. Also, while booting it did a checkdisk for some reason and had probably a few hundred errors that it fixed no problem.. IS that normal?
[00:33] <googleit> my usb is reading it
[00:33] <grendal_prime> ya this would be intel, 32bit, laptop.  It was running 804 with no problems.
[00:33] <mick__> what timezone was the cd using?
[00:34] <grendal_prime> but if i fire up anthing that requires any hd access on a large scale it freezes
[00:34] <mick__> grendal:: initially yes, but then after about a month they got the xserver sorted properly
[00:34] <Jasonrj> I don't know, it didn't ask me for a time-zone, I didn't notice the clock was messed up though until I rebooted.
[00:34] <mick__> for this reason I am going to be very very very very slow to upgrade to 10.04
[00:34] <erUSUL> chilli0: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:35] <erUSUL> chilli0: run the command the error told you to run
[00:35] <chilli0> erUSUL, Did you read the pb ?
[00:35] <mick__> sounds like it could be a heating problem
[00:35] <chilli0> I ran it
[00:35] <mick__> i get that when i used it on the duvet too from time to time :)
[00:36] <chilli0> erUSUL, Line 9
[00:36] <erUSUL> chilli0: ok; tried purging the problematic pavkage?
[00:36] <mick__> grendal::  or your hard disk could be dying, have you tried running a giagnostic?
[00:36] <erUSUL> chilli0: the kernel in that case?
[00:36] <grendal_prime> mick__: well i just downloaded this iso the other night, and there were no more updates to it, so Is it possible to just install on ext3
[00:36] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Its any packeges
[00:36] <googleit> acicula how do i use hciconfig
[00:37] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Ill reinstall ubuntu
[00:37] <googleit> to activate my bluetooth
[00:37] <erUSUL> chilli0: no is linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic
[00:37] <mick__> yes it is
[00:37] <DaZ> grendal_prime: filesystem doesn't usually freeze an operating system.
[00:37] <acicula> googleit: you type it in a console
[00:37] <googleit> ha thanks i figured that part
[00:37] <erUSUL> chilli0: try this first « sudo apt-get clean && sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:37] <googleit> but i reset or restart it and i get it cant open device
[00:38] <acicula> googleit: means no driver loaded
[00:38] <chilli0> erUSUL,  If I have /home on a seperate partion and only format / will I lose all emails
[00:38] <mick__> best wishes to all time for me to call it a night at almost 1am here
[00:38] <googleit> ah
[00:38] <erUSUL> chilli0: evolution?
[00:38] <chilli0> Yepp
[00:38] <mazda01> trying to set dvd drive to pio mode so i can flash the firmware to make sure the drive is dead and not just incompatible media. anyone know how to help. I cam getting this error: hdparm -d /dev/hda
[00:39] <mazda01> HDIO_SET_PIO_MODE failed: Operation not permitted
[00:39] <erUSUL> mazda01: are you sure the dvd drive is /dev/hda?
[00:39] <mazda01> erUSUL, no, that was a mistake. the drive is /dev/sg0
[00:40] <chilli0> erUSUL,  Yes
[00:40] <erUSUL> mazda01:  /dev/sr0 ?
[00:41] <erUSUL> chilli0: no it shoud be all in your home. you can make a backup there is an option in File menu to do it
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, yes, i tried all of the above. /dev/scd0, /dev/sg0, /dev/sr0, and /dev/dvd, and /dev/dvdrw
[00:41] <erUSUL> mazda01: hdparm does not work on libata devices afaik
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, all say the same thing
[00:41] <erUSUL> mazda01: you will have to use a kernel option i think
[00:41] <mazda01> erUSUL, huh? since when. I have set the dma mode on my drives and that worked fine.
[00:42] <mazda01> erUSUL, using hdparm
[00:42] <erUSUL> mazda01: since the change to libata
[00:42] <erUSUL> !libata
[00:43] <neil_d> mazda01: are you running hdparm as root?
[00:43] <mazda01> erUSUL, really, how stupid. why did they go and do that? you mean that hdparm just has been updated to work with the new libata driver? yes, running as rooty
[00:43] <mazda01> rooty = root
[00:43] <saxofoner> Hi everyone. I was trying to fix sound on my new 9.10 install, and I installed linux backports alsa karmic generic, and when I rebooted, I was stuck in low graphics mode. Then my graphics card started overheating. I've always run the nvidia drivers just fine. I would normally reconfigure xconfig but that's not there anymore, so I'll try anything
[00:44] <neil_d> mazda01: if you do "ls /dev/hda*" do you see all the partitions?
[00:45] <mazda01> neil_d, i don't even have any "hda" drives, only "sda"
[00:46] <Random832> i got gnome-shell - is there any way to add applets to it - i've got battery, volume, and wireless, but none of my other icons
[00:46] <mazda01> neil_d, if I issue  ls /dev/sda* and yes. i see all my partitions. but I am trying to solve the pio mode for a dvd drive. so I can flash the firmware
[00:48] <erUSUL> mazda01: the parameter is libata.force=<device>:pio<number>   where device is number in my case « dmesg | grep ATAPI » gives ata6.00: ATAPI: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, 1.01, max UDMA/33 so the number is 6.00 then pio can be pio0 to pio7
[00:48] <erUSUL> mazda01: so "libata.force=6.00:pio7" for example
[00:49] <erUSUL> mazda01: but the question is... do you have the firmware flasher for linux ?
[00:50] <erUSUL> saxofoner: maybe you just need to reinstall the drivers ?
[00:52] <neil_d> mazda01: when I tried to run hdparm on my dvd with "hdparm /dev/sr0" It gave an error of "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" so maybe hdparm doesn't work on cdrom etc.
[00:52] <saxofoner> erUSUL: I suppose I'll try dpkg reconfigure, and then I'll reinstall nvidia drivers. but why would installing sound backport drivers mess up my graphics
[00:52] <saxofoner> rhetorical question of course
[00:52] <mordof> ok, this is one thing i'm not used to struggling with.  I installed 9.10 on a computer of mine (older comp), there's no xorg.conf, and dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has no effect.. i can't find how to tell it to use 1280x768 resolution..
[00:53] <mordof> I made an xorg.conf with the monitor/screen in it with that, but it didn't take
[00:53] <saxofoner> mordof: xorg.conf is gone forever, sadly
[00:53] <mordof> ; ; ok.. so what do i do instead?
[00:54] <Ademan> saxofoner: what? xorg.conf is OPTIONAL last i heard...
[00:54] <Kevin147> I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!
[00:55] <mordof> i went to x.org, and it showed that it looks for the xorg.conf in that area
[00:55] <mordof> so my guess is it's still optional
[00:56] <saxofoner> Oh really? Cool, I remember trying to do something that I thought I knew how to do and not being able to do it the old way through xorg. Maybe it's still there for certain things
[00:56] <mordof> i don't know any other means to configure my monitor though
[00:57] <psvasti> how do i check for viruses?  i tried to log on to undernet and it g-lined me saying i was infected
[00:57] <daftykins> psvasti: it was probably just a joke.
[00:58] <psvasti> no no, it happened nearly instantly
[00:58] <neil_d> mordof: I use the menu "System->Preferences->Display"
[00:58] <tal> I'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?
[00:58] <mordof> neil_d: that doesn't work, it's not recognizing the resolution size
[00:58] <daftykins> psvasti: keep reconnecting 'til you get a different server
[00:59] <psvasti> AUTO [1] Infected with a virus or trojan, please clean your system. Cleaner @ http://www.moosoft.com (P321).
[00:59] <mordof> neil_d: i need to force it to use 1280x768, right now it's only letting me use 800x600 and 640x480
[00:59] <ChibaPet> Hey all. Quick question: Is there a way for me to enable a hardware bell instead of having a sound file played for my terminal bell, say, in Gnome Terminal?
[00:59] <neil_d> psvasti: all web-bassed virus checks are invalid.. and try to get you to install spyware.
[00:59] <Kevin147> I have a Dell Inspiron and I just installed Ubuntu on it. I am using a laptop, it runs great! But one problem, the built in mic does not work... I am pretty good in Ubuntu, but I could not seem to get it to work... Please help!!!!
[00:59] <psvasti> different server, same message
[01:00] <IAmEpic>  
[01:00] <ChibaPet> (I want to let the system beep at me several times in a row, but the soundfile-based beeps all seem somewhat "rate limited".)
[01:00] <Trek>  
[01:00] <Flare-Laptop> Trek: o.O
[01:00] <Trek> wow, sorry, i accidentially hit the spacebar
[01:00] <tal> Any ideas?
[01:00] <ChibaPet> Anyone have clues for me? :)
[01:00] <Trek> i'm messing with my hardware, makes it hard when I bump the keyboard
[01:00] <Flare-Laptop> Trek: Ahh ok
[01:01] <Flare-Laptop> Kevin147: We'll help ya
[01:01] <mordof> Anyone able to help me get ubuntu to recognize (or force it) the resolution 1280x768?
[01:01] <Kevin147> Flare-Laptop, ok
[01:01] <neil_d> mordof: what type of video card do you have?
[01:01] <daftykins> and what driver is currently in use? ^
[01:01] <mordof> neil_d: i don't know. it's a computer i was given. i'm not sure what video card driver is installed in the tower either >.<;
[01:02] <ChibaPet> Alright, back to Google.
[01:02] <mordof> neil_d: it's onboard.. nothing worthy of trying for any good drivers
[01:02]  * mordof checks the motherboard.
[01:03] <afroman> hello. I  have installed the alsa upgrade script now nothing works.
[01:03] <neil_d> mordof: can you find it in the output of "lspci"
[01:04] <mordof> neil_d: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[01:04] <daftykins> erk intel 845G
[01:05] <mordof> daftykins: don't worry, i'm setting it up for my dad - simple office use, lol
[01:05] <daftykins> nah i just have no idea if you could get that to do anything sensible with karmic
[01:05] <mordof> daftykins: surely it's still possible to force a resolution though..
[01:06] <mordof> at least i'm hoping.. lol
[01:06] <daftykins> mordof: i'm sure it is with manual xorg.conf hax, with modelines and some such
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  for many nvidia cards ive had - i HAVE to use teh nvidia drivers for it to properly detect the res of the monitors
[01:07] <mordof> Dr_Willis: you don't have to properly detect the resolution of monitors..
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> mordof:   but with intel - most of those are built in.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  with many of my Nvidia machines. they use the wrong res. I install the nvidia drivers and they detect teh res properly. its been this way for at least 5 machines ive worked with in the past.
[01:07] <tal> I'm running xmonad and need to change my gdm theme and my gtk theme, how can I initiate these programs from the commsnd line?
[01:08] <tal> I.e. what are their names?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> mordof:  you may want to check the Intel video wiki page/forum threads.
[01:08] <neil_d> mordof: don't know what to do now... sorry!  maybe you search for the chipset number and find out something.
[01:08] <mordof> Dr_Willis: i'm going to google it.. but again, you don't need it to detect the resolution itself - that's what xorg.conf is for
[01:09] <daftykins> you do for nvidia hardware because then it detects the *precise* mode
[01:09] <mazda01> erUSUL, yes I do, people have written it. it's called necflash
[01:09] <daftykins> just resolution isn't enough
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> mordof:   ive not had to have res information in xorg.conf in ages.
[01:09] <mordof> ah
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> tal:  try   gnome-appearance-properties
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> tal:  what version of ubuntu you using anyway>
[01:11] <tal> Dr_Willis, it's based (very deep  down now ;)) on 9.04
[01:11] <doofy> I just installed ubuntu on a partition of my macbook pro. I have refit on here and I have rescanned the partition table, but ubuntu isnt showing up. How can I get this to boot?
[01:12] <Adman65> I'm using ubuntu server, I created a new user using useradd but now that use has no bash completion
[01:12] <tal> Dr_Willis, I don;t have that =/
[01:12] <Sky[x]> how to turn monitor ON over SSH without X, keyboard, mouse ?
[01:12] <tal> I just need the program that edits the GDM settings
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> tal:  No idea then. thats the tool that contriolls the gnome themes.   gdm in 9.10 is different so i dont know the tool name for that.
[01:13] <DARKGuy> hm, is there any IRC console program which allows the channels to be switched with the mouse when under X?
[01:13] <tal> Dr_Willis, Damn. ah well, thanks a lot!
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> tal:  install 'ubuntu-desktop' perhaps it will pull it in.
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> !gdm
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> tal:  or check the repos for a gdm specific config tool.
[01:15] <Adman65> hmm, any reason why /etc/skel is empty ?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  check for .Files withs ls -al
[01:15] <mordof> this is so not going to be fun...
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  i only have 4 files in it here.
[01:15] <nonameNN> Adman65: why would it be full of files?
[01:16] <mtx_init> i had a freind in hs named tal
[01:16] <Adman65> Forgot they were .files
[01:16] <Adman65> carry on
[01:16] <neil_d> I am currently downloading 9.10 but why does this stop firefox working?  shouldn't the packet from wget and firefox have the same priority in the tcp stack?
[01:17] <Adman65> hmm, new user can't find `source` command prompt is only a $
[01:17] <mtx_init> neil_d: wget is usually faster, given its smaller size
[01:18] <mordof> oh great, the patch needed to allow 1280x768 came up with a 404 -.-;
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> what shell are you using? source is a bash built in i thought or do . whateverscript
[01:18] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: bash
[01:18] <Kamokow> I was installing another language, through language support. And it uninstalled edubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu 9.10 install. Is this normal? I didnt think so D:
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  its a bash built in. so either theres somthing very weird going on.. or bash is not the shell.. check echo $SHELL
[01:20] <tal> Dr_Willis, I never had gnome - I had openbox, now I'm removing it in favour or xnomad
[01:20] <tal> mtx_init, My full name is Taliesen
[01:20] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: doh. /bin/sh
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> tal:   thats the problem wih doing things like that. You have to learn how all these parts work
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  :)
[01:21] <Adman65> i guess you have to explicity set it with useradd
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> i always use adduser :)
[01:21] <neil_d> mtx_init: so what difference should that make.. how could that stop firefox?
[01:21] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: is that a debian thing ?
[01:21] <mtx_init> tal: oh ok, tal is a Israeli girls name.  I think it means the morning dew on a leaf.
[01:22] <Kamokow> Oh, nevermind my previous question, it was my fault.
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> Adman65:  never noticed.. ive used adduser for years..
[01:22] <mtx_init> neil_d: something is wrong with firefox, possible sudo apt-get remove firefox, then purge and reinstall
[01:22] <Adman65> Dr_Willis: *shrug*, I've always used useradd
[01:24] <tal> mtx_init, Haha, I'm british =)
[01:24] <objorn> how do i enable ctl-alt-backspace?
[01:24] <gabriel__> Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?
[01:24] <objorn> !ctl-alt-backspace
[01:25] <zagabar> Okay, I had some problems with my ICS. I am trying to share internet to my network from my ubuntu server. I also use it as a mail server. I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing    After making these commands: http://pastebin.com/m380851ae I cannot log in to squirrelmail nor with firebird anymore. It says "User not found" or "connection refused". Its ports are still ope
[01:26] <arand> objorn: You can use alt+sysreq+k instead
[01:26] <arand> !dontzap | objorn
[01:27] <gabriel__> Hey all, how do you install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an existing 9.10 installation?
[01:28] <meganerd> zagabar: is your lan on the 192.168.0.0/24 network?
[01:28] <neil_d> arand: do you know why it was disabled in the first place?  I found it useful
[01:28] <MTecknology> Anybody know how I can allow root login through gdm from the command line?
[01:28] <DaZ> MTecknology: by editing gdm config files.
[01:28] <kc8pxy> i am i'm trying to use minicom to access my cisco router via console. it doesn't seem to like me trying to use it with /dev/ttyS0 ..   how else do i acceess the comport?
[01:29] <MTecknology> DaZ: which file though?
[01:29] <DaZ> eh :f
[01:29] <MTecknology> Backtrack is based on Ubuntu now and I don't want to create an additional user for that purpose - since half the tools need to be run as root anyway..
[01:29] <zagabar> meganerd: I don't have a lan yet. That's what I was trying to configure. And I was aiming to have it on that network yes.
[01:29] <kc8pxy> on my hardy system that is
[01:30] <neil_d> MTecknology: I think all you need to do is give root a password... using "passwd".. but it is dangerous.. you can use "sudo -i" to get a root terminal.
[01:30] <meganerd> zagabar: are those the only 3 rules you have?
[01:30] <arand> neil_d: because it was too easily reachable and would loose an unsuspecting user all open data.
[01:30] <DaZ> neil_d: and you're wrong.
[01:31] <MTecknology> neil_d: read the note about backtrack :)
[01:31] <MTecknology> DaZ: I found one option for it, AllowRootLogin; but that didn't change it.. I'll just add a user for it
[01:32] <neil_d> DaZ: about what?
[01:32]  * kc8pxy needs to RTFM more often for ubuntu..  it's simpler for the user that expects a lego-like system. put the right blocks in place and it works.
[01:32] <DaZ> neil_d: logging in as root in gdm needs a little more effort.
[01:32] <wolter> k
[01:32] <kc8pxy> you just need to know what blocks are for what.
[01:33] <zagabar> meganerd: No, I have these too: http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d  Those nat rules
[01:33] <neil_d> DaZ: ok
[01:33] <wolter> hi, sometimes after i wake up my computer from suspend, Xorg starts using like 17% of the processor.. what could be happening?
[01:34] <MTecknology> neil_d: not something the normal system should EVER do - but in the case of a system like this it's basically mandatory
[01:36] <zagabar> http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d How can I remove these POSTROUTING rules?
[01:36] <meganerd> zagabar: I am about to head home now, so I can't really look at this further.  You may want to look at fwbuilder on a GUI machine, and then check out the rules it makes.
[01:36] <almostdvs> so, I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu installation, and on restart it says it cant find something and drops to a shell, can anyone help?
[01:36] <zagabar> meganerd: Okay. Thanks anyway.
[01:36] <meganerd> zagabar: I have never looked at that Ubuntu internet connection sharing script so I can't really comment on that
[01:37] <meganerd> zagabar: to be honest I have been writing my own rules from scratch for a while.  An easier connection sharing approach might be to install Arno's iptables scripts, a few of my friends seem to like it
[01:40] <neil_d> if I use a raid1 setup.. once grub is configured correctly.. I should be able to turn the computer off, remove any drive, and have it still boot correctly?
[01:40] <zagabar> meganerd: I see. That might be a good starter to get some understanding. However I have no problems getting the ICS to work, the problem is that when it is active, it somehow disables the mail service programs.
[01:41] <syrius> how do I share a cd/dvd drive over network?
[01:41] <wolter> Xorg is using up like 20% of my processor, what could it be?
[01:41] <objorn> how can i restore the default xorg.config?
[01:41] <objorn> or have it reconfigured?
[01:41] <syrius> maybe 3d graphics or not very good graphics card maybe
[01:42] <syrius> try turning off 3d desktop acceleration wolter
[01:42] <wolter> syrius, it uses more, like 40% if i do that
[01:42] <wolter> (cause GPU is handling my desktop with compiz... with metacity it will be my CPU)
[01:42] <wolter> but anyway, this only happens after i wake my computer up from suspend
[01:43] <wolter> normally, how much cpu should Xorg use?
[01:45] <objorn> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what i was looking for
[01:46] <TheMozart> objorn: yes
[01:46] <objorn> ty internet
[01:49] <zagabar> Anyone knows how to delete the POSTROUTING rules here? http://pastebin.com/m5f0b147d
[01:50] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> I thought everything in 'ubuntu-studio' came from  the normal repos. and perhaps medibuntu
[01:51] <nukeslion> hello, i have updated my video driver to the latest nvidia one because the last one wasn't working properly, now my sound devices are not appearing
[01:51] <Maczimus> kubuntu-desktop has the kubuntu packages
[01:51] <objorn> i can't sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:52] <melfy> there a disk free space panel item for ubuntu for external drives etc?
[01:52] <objorn> xorg-server isn't an option :\
[01:52]  * nukeslion goes to try rebooting
[01:54] <Ziber> Alright, so I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 server. No matter what I do, I cant seem to get internet. I *know* my router gives out DHCP, but my box cant see to get it. And I know its physically connected properly because I had windows xp pro installed, which worked fine, with internet. Any ideas?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  state the connection type. Wired or wireless..
[01:54] <Ziber> wired
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> that is odd.
[01:54] <Ziber> indeed.
[01:55] <mobi-sheep> Ziber: Pastebin "lshw -c network"
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo dhclient' and see if it grabs the ip. try pinging the router also.
[01:55] <Ziber> lshw -c network returned nothing. and i cant ping the router.
[01:55] <chetnick> my grub menu is filling up with every new version of kernel. I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 which uses new GRUB2. How do i get rid of all this entries? Thanks.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  has any live cd's worked with networking?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> double check the cables also. :) had the dog chew one up on me..
[01:56] <Ziber> uhm, i tried one, and no, i dont recall it working.
[01:56] <mobi-sheep> Ziber: "lshw -c network" return nothing? Meh. It don't see the network card if you're saying that.
[01:56] <Ziber> yes, it returned nothing.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  that is very very odd then, Hmm any idea what NIC you got?
[01:57] <unop> chetnick, remove the old kernel packages?? only after you are sure the new one works well for you -- that's importasnt
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> there was an old mouse game that I used to play on the computer (windows) you started off inside a bunch of squares that you could push, and there were cats on the outside
[01:57] <unop> important*
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> ah crap off topic
[01:57] <Ziber> no, not off hand, no. "lshw" returned an "ethernet device" tho. so it sees it... :o
[01:57] <chetnick> unop: remove from /boot ? and run update-grub?
[01:57] <millertimek1a2m3> where's the off topic channel again?
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> #ubuntu-ot
[01:57] <unop> chetnick, no, remove from your package manager. synaptic or apt-get, etc
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  could be theres some kernel module youi need to load. How old is this machine?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> millertimek1a2m3:  ive played tjhat game in wine i recall. :) but i forget its name
[01:58] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: the machine is about 2 years old, i think. maybe a bit more...
[01:58] <millertimek1a2m3> Dr_Willis: you know what i'm talking about?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  see if dmesg output mentions the network cards at all. i had a Marvell NIC that the kernel dident like too well
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> if windows was handy - it may be usefull to boot back to windows and sewe what drivers/name it calls the card.
[02:01] <psycho_oreos> marvell has their own driver however, named skg
[02:01] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings, esp. Dr_Willis. When I run fsck on a hard drive identified with a UUID, do I specify the (unmounted) drive/partition by a path such as /media/drivename or by its UUID? I attempted with the path, i.e. fsck /media/100GB but got: fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=xxxxx'
[02:01] <objorn> need help dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work :\
[02:02] <objorn> it just goes to the next line
[02:02] <objorn> ..when i type that in
[02:02] <afroman> how do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference
[02:03] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: what can i search for in /var/log/dmesg to see if it found NIC?
[02:03] <syrius> is this safe to use? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> dmesg | grep PATTERN
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  not sure what pattern to sue
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install brain
[02:04] <frederick85> hi i'm wondering how I can get some effects to add reverb to my mic playing live over skype or something
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install HDtv
[02:04] <Out_Cold> !info brain > Out_Cold
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> syrius:  that guide does seem to be 3 yrs old
[02:04] <syrius> apt-get install $$$$
[02:04] <gmachine_24> Ok, so I realized that, since the drive/partition is not mounted, /media/xxxdrivename is not going to work.
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, if you want to find your NIC use "lspci | grep -i network"
[02:04] <gmachine_24> any help?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> syrius:  but the basics of it are the same. You may want to backup the origianl samba smb.cfg file  befor doing major changes to it
[02:05] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends ubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:05] <Ziber> "lspci | grep -i network" returned nothing.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  Mount the drive?
[02:05] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know if there are valid kubuntu and studio repos i can add to my ubuntu install.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  you fsck UNMOUNTED filesystems
[02:05] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, that's always a problem with the forums... I still find fixes for 6.04
[02:06] <Ziber> with lspci, i see "bridge: ... ethernet" tho
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, just to double check try "lspci | grep -i Ethernet"
[02:06] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis - I know. That's what I said.
[02:06] <afroman> anybody? how do I get back sound preferences? I don't see it in Sys-->preference
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  fsck /dev/wghatever
[02:06] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: that found it.
[02:06] <mobi-sheep> afroman: at least, is gnome-volume-control installed?
[02:07] <Ziber> 00:11.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[02:07] <afroman> mobi-sheep: no, I don't think so
[02:08] <mazda01> tried to enable the libata.force parameter for setting pio mode but it didnt' work. erUSUL suggested i try this: libata.force=1.00:pio7   where 1.00 is the ata number of the dvd drive after running dmesg | grep ATAPI. I get this: ata1.00: ATAPI: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A, 1.02, max UDMA/66. BUT, when I look at dmesg after booting up, i see this; ata: failed to parse force parameter "1" (unknown value)
[02:08] <mobi-sheep> afroman: You're not sure? What does the line say for "aptitude search gnome-volume-control"?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i'm no help to you BUT - typically you'd see "00:00:00 Ethernet controller: blah blah blah..." have any idea why it says Bridge?
[02:09] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: no, i dont.
[02:09] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Err, hold on.
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> hey i just downloaded a jar fiel
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> file** how do i run it?
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> double clicking it only opens up the archive manager
[02:09] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis, yes, I did that. I get the same error msg each time - "The superblock could not be read ... " etc. tried alternative e2fsck -b 8193 <device> and that failed as well.
[02:09] <meowbuntu> anyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os
[02:09] <Blue1> what a hassle...
[02:09] <gmachine_24> I will restart the comp and try again.
[02:09] <millertimek1a2m3> never mind
[02:09] <gmachine_24> Thank you.
[02:09] <Out_Cold> Has anyone locked down their nfs 'status' port while attempting nfs firewall rules? Or does anyone have an active /etc/init.d/nfs-commons script running??
[02:10] <Out_Cold> ** scrtipt in 9.10
[02:10] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Try running "gnome-volume-control" in the terminal.
[02:11] <meowbuntu> mobi-sheep, he would be better to run alsamixer right
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, this was from a very old post but might still be worth a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/
[02:11] <meowbuntu> mobi-sheep, or he could install gnome-alsamixer (frount end for alsamixer which is better)
[02:11] <mobi-sheep> meowbuntu: Not at all. He have no sound issues. Just missing few things from menus.
[02:12] <afroman> mobi-sheep: it's there
[02:12] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I haven't found a solution yet by the way :-D
[02:12] <afroman> meowbuntu: I also did install gnome alsamixer
[02:12] <Out_Cold> CVirus, well i feel better knowing i'm not alone..
[02:13] <meowbuntu> afroman, you have to use gnome-alsamixer as alsamixer now wont work itself
[02:13] <Out_Cold> time for a new paste i guess
[02:13] <mobi-sheep> afroman: Okay. You were doing something that results the disappearance of that menu. You could add it via System --> Prefs --> Main Menu.
[02:13] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I was talking about yesterday's problem
[02:13] <Out_Cold> oh...
[02:13] <Out_Cold> i lose track of those i talk to
[02:13] <CVirus> Out_Cold: XVirus
[02:14] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I want to prevent users from mouting USB flash disks using nautilus's side pane
[02:14] <meowbuntu> anyone know if i can add the full kubuntu repo and the full studio repo to my installed ubuntu os
[02:14] <zagabar> Can someone please explain the meaning of this rule: sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[02:14] <Out_Cold> CVirus, unless i scanned the logs, i couldn't even remember my name yesterday :(
[02:14] <maco> meowbuntu: ther IS NO kubuntu repo separate from ubuntu's repo
[02:14] <CVirus> Out_Cold: it's okay :-D
[02:14] <maco> meowbuntu: there is simply a kubuntu-desktop package found in the same repo
[02:15] <maco> meowbuntu: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, mythbuntu, lubuntu, and ubuntu studio all share the same repos
[02:15] <meowbuntu> mac9416, there is actually i install kubuntu-desktop right
[02:15] <CVirus> Guys, anyone has any clue how can I prevent users from mounting USB flash disks using nautilus side pane ?
[02:15] <meowbuntu> then to add ubuntu studio i would add
[02:15] <maco> meowbuntu: kubuntu-desktop is a package, not a repo. and yes, you should be able to install ubuntu-studio-desktop at the same time
[02:15] <Trebla> is the ATI video card recomended over nvidia?
[02:15] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what's your POSTROUTING rules all say? that takes packets and masquerades them then send them forward to another IP address I think
[02:16] <maco> meowbuntu: if you cannot, then you've found a bug
[02:16] <afroman> meowbuntu: hey. mobi left. do you mind helping me to the end?
[02:16] <meowbuntu> every version has something similar to this right http://ubuntuce.com/convert.htm
[02:16] <Out_Cold> it's amazing how much I've learned about iptables trying to fix my one random port.
[02:16] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Another ip? What ip? That is the only rule.  The thing with that rule is when I am adding it. Then I cannot use my services that are used for checking mail. Like squirrelmail or thunderbird.
[02:17] <Out_Cold> zagabar, are you adding it by yourself??
[02:17] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:18] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Yeah, I am just pasting that line in a terminal and pressing enter.
[02:18] <frederick85> Hi i'm trying to figure out if there is a way to add sound effect to my microphone to use on skype and things like that that take the mic
[02:18] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Then squirrelmail starts failing
[02:18] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what are you trying to do? have a link?
[02:18] <meowbuntu> afroman, with what
[02:19] <afroman> meowbuntu: sound. I still can't find it in the main menu. however I see Multimedia System selector
[02:19] <Majora> How do I resize partitions? I was told to use gparted but I can't figure out how to actually use it. ._.;
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> Trebla, No NO and NO!  I'd avoid ATI if I where you
[02:19] <zagabar> Out_Cold: Following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing   My server has eth0 connected to internet and eth1 to other computers and I want to make it share the connection with them. The guide works for that, but it also kills squirrelmail and ability to connect to the server with thunderbird. Other services as ampache and ftp, ssh etc are still intact though.
[02:20] <Out_Cold> Majora, what are you trying to resize? what type? and is it already mounted?
[02:20] <meowbuntu> afroman, i am actually in studio atm so might not get it exactly right
[02:20] <Majora> ext3 part that has ubuntu on it... and I'm gonna say yes?
[02:20] <almostdvs> so I'm upgrading my friends kubuntu and on restart i'm told that it can't find the root and it drops to an initrd shell  can anyone help?
[02:20] <meowbuntu> afroman, open a terminal and type this sound
[02:21] <meowbuntu> that should open up the sound settings
[02:21] <mazda01> can anyone help me set my dvd drive to anyh pio mode so i can flash the firmware using necflash for linux? i have tried libata.force=1.00:pio7  but it didn't work, hdparm -I /dev/sg0 still says drive is in DMA mode and the necflash fails with Error submitting checksum
[02:21] <Majora> Out_Cold: ext3 ubuntu part, already mounted. I just want to make it smaller.
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, no "sound" command on my Ubuntu 9.10???
[02:22] <Out_Cold> Majora, unmount it first
[02:22] <meowbuntu> mazda01, maby instaling the restricted extras will work(some countries this may be illegal) in terminal install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:22] <Majora> Out_Cold: how? sorry, I don't usually have to fiddle with ubuntu this much. x.x;
[02:22]  * tiger2wander is away: Away
[02:23] <meowbuntu> mazda01, sorry type this  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:23] <Trek> !away > tiger2wander
[02:23] <syrius> cool
[02:23] <mazda01> meowbuntu, do you even know what you're trying to help me with? sorry, i don't mean to be rude but I am trying to set a libata.force option in the kernel boot line. what does that have to do with restricyed formats at all?
[02:23] <syrius> I see what to do now
[02:23] <Out_Cold> Majora, can you paste me the contents of sudo fdisk -l   and mount    Run both from terminal please
[02:24] <afroman> meowbuntu: it didn't work. check my message
[02:24] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[02:24] <Out_Cold> !pastebin > Majora
[02:24] <almostdvs> does ubuntu now delete the old kernels after an update or just clean up the grub menu?
[02:24] <meowbuntu> mazda01, you said you had problems with dvd player right
[02:24] <syrius> so ; and # is a comment that is not run in a conf file?
[02:24] <Majora> Out_Cold: Hmm... wasn't expecting it to be this complicated. I will BRB then while I boot into ubuntu. xD
[02:24] <IdleOne> almostdvs: you have to delete the old kernels yourself
[02:24] <exigraff> question - I have a symlink in /etc/network/if-up.d, pointing to a script that authenticates me to my uni's network. the script runs on ifup if there's a gdm session open, but not on ifup when the machine boots. any ideas?
[02:25] <Out_Cold> CVirus, you said you used mtab for your script?
[02:25] <mazda01> meowbuntu-afk, i am trying to flash the firmware, which has nothing to do with enabling the restricted formats. thanks for trying though
[02:25] <mazda01> brb
[02:25] <almostdvs> IdleOne: can i still boot into the old ones from grub, the upgrade is not going over well
[02:26] <IdleOne> almostdvs: yes, your old kernel should still be in the grub menu
[02:26] <Out_Cold> zagabar, what's the rule directly before that one?
[02:26] <CVirus> Out_Cold: no I didn't but I found an entry there for sdb1
[02:26] <meowbuntu-afk> afroman, just a last minute thing please ask to pm first before doing it its polite
[02:27] <Out_Cold> CVirus, can i see the script?
[02:27] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: sorry. didn't know
[02:27] <almostdvs> IdleOne: (i'm not in grub now obviously) but the only kernels i saw were for the new upgrade and the recovery mode.  is there an option where i can see more...
[02:27] <CVirus> Out_Cold: sure give me a sec
[02:28] <IdleOne> almostdvs: grub2 or grub?
[02:28] <almostdvs> IdleOne: i'm assuming grub
[02:28] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: nothing still
[02:28] <almostdvs> IdleOne: this is a friends computer that i was upgradeing
[02:28] <IdleOne> !grub | almostdvs
[02:28] <IdleOne> almostdvs: check the previous links for more info
[02:29] <CVirus> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/m7693ffe3 the above is the mount script and the other is the unmount script
[02:29] <afroman> meowbuntu-afk: shall I pm or shall we stay in the main window?
[02:30] <Majora> Out_Cold: What were those terminal commands again?
[02:30] <Out_Cold> Majora, sudo fdisk -l and mount
[02:31] <Out_Cold> CVirus, let me test a few things out and check back
[02:32] <CVirus> Out_Cold: sure
[02:32] <Majora> Out_Cold, http://pastebin.com/d4ed1b13a
[02:33] <cpare> Hello - Can someone help me with an "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" error
[02:33] <Out_Cold> Majora, so dev/sda6 you want to shrink how much?
[02:34] <Out_Cold> cpare, try another server
[02:34] <Out_Cold> there is a list option in repositories i think
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> cpare, system / Administration / Software sources -- then change the "download from:" dropdown
[02:35] <Majora> Out_Cold, it is currently about 70 GiB, I want to make it 25.
[02:35] <cpare> Thanks Out_Cold & ZykotickS - trying it now
[02:36] <almostdvs> IdleOne: is that most likely the problem, if I was just trying a normal upgrade and now it can't find root
[02:36] <Out_Cold> Majora, fair enough. now you have to resize while the partition is unmounted. so do you have a live cd/usb?
[02:36] <Majora> no CD, but I have a USB handy... would probably have to download something though
[02:37] <CVirus> Out_Cold: if only I could prevent the devkit daemon from detecting the devices
[02:39] <cpare> Out_Cold - ZykoticK9 - Changing the repository to the master did the trick, Thanks for the suggestion, who would have thought the US Repository would fail like that...
[02:40] <Out_Cold> Majora, yes. it would have been easier if you had originally created a few small partitions and kept one big one for /home or file storage. But default installs make one big / partition. You need to download an iso image and use unetbootin to make. then while using the live usb, /dev/sda6 is unmounted you resize in gparted
[02:40] <Majora> Out_Cold, no CD, have a USB handy. Though nothing on it partition-relevant.
[02:40] <Out_Cold> cpare, probably server overload
[02:41] <meowbuntu-afk>   hi how can i uninstall oss sound again
[02:41] <meowbuntu-afk> afroman, needs to know how to uninstall oss
[02:42] <Majora> Out_Cold, can I just delete the partition and remake another? i.e. would that be easier than editing the existing partition.
[02:43] <Out_Cold> Majora, no not really. resizing means you don't have to re-install everything.
[02:44] <chetnick> resizing can be little tricky, depending on your partition layout.
[02:44] <Out_Cold> chetnick, it's the last partition
[02:46] <wasutton3> is there a way to set up a global proxy toggle so that i can alternate between a proxy and a direct internet connection?
[02:46] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[02:46] <Out_Cold> Majora, if you resized to 10 gb for ubuntu and made one more partition for files, you could mount it both in windows and ubuntu.
[02:47] <Majora> Out_Cold, Well, I should probably resize the swap partition. in my n00bishness I made it waaaay too huge. c.c
[02:47] <Hinata> Majora: how huge?
[02:48] <Majora> Hinata, like five gigabytes huge.
[02:48]  * Majora QQ's
[02:48] <Out_Cold> well Majora if you were to spend the extra time, then a proper partition plan and a fresh install would do you better
[02:48] <Majora> Like I said, n00b xD
[02:49] <Out_Cold> Majora, a nice starting layout would be 2xram for swap, 8-12 gb for / and whatever else for /home
[02:49] <CVirus> Out_Cold: any clue man ?
[02:49] <Hinata> Majora: I'm not sure how good it is but I've heared at plenty of place that it was "good to have twice as much space in swap than you have of RAM memorie (2gb of swap for 1gm of RAM) now I don't know if it's true though
[02:49] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i need to go find a usb still
[02:50] <CVirus> Out_Cold: if you're living nearby I can pass one by :-p
[02:51] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[02:52] <Hinata> Out_Cold: where does that 2x ramp = swap come from? I mean... if you have 8gb of ram... the swap shouldn't be used too much right?
[02:52] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i had like 10 of them downstairs but that's 2 flights of stairs. just had to get motivated :p
[02:52] <syrius> how do I restart samb in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jeruvy> syrius: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:52] <syrius> after I make changes so that it is reconized right away
[02:53] <Out_Cold> syrius, possibly sudo /etc/init.d..... ^^^
[02:53] <afroman> how do I get sound preferences back?
[02:57] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I heard that people who go down stairs to search for flash disks, win prizes
[02:58] <Majora> CVirus, Out_Cold: part of 9.10!
[02:58] <CVirus> hehe
[02:59] <CVirus> Hinata: you use swap for hibernate and suspend
[02:59] <maco> CVirus: not for suspend2ram
[02:59] <CVirus> err
[02:59] <maco> CVirus: s2ram uses well...ram
[02:59] <CVirus> hibernate only
[02:59] <CVirus> yeah .. sorry
[02:59] <Out_Cold> CVirus, hibernate is to disk
[02:59] <CVirus> exactly
[02:59] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[03:00] <ardchoille> !wireless
[03:00] <Trek> CVirus, swap can also be used if you have multiple virtual machines running on a system at a time (seen it on a client's system once)
[03:00] <cegorach> how can i find the actual mounted location of a mounted disk?
[03:00] <denny> mount
[03:00] <maco> cegorach: just type "mount"
[03:00] <Ziber> ardchoille: not running wireless
[03:00] <CVirus> Trek: I have 3 vm's running right now :-)
[03:01] <ardchoille> Ziber: That was meant for me
[03:01] <Ziber> oh, i thought you were responding to my issue.
[03:01] <cegorach> thanks
[03:02] <wasutton3> i think i might have changed the permissions of /bin/bash how would i go about fixing that?
[03:02] <Out_Cold> geeeez.... no wonder i couldn't mount the usb :o/ i was ssh'd into my server
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  perms here are --> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 917960 2009-09-14 01:08 /bin/bash.
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, "ls -l /bin/bash" should be root:root rwxr-xr-x
[03:03] <wasutton3> Dr_Willis, thanks i found out i had accidentally overwrote it -_- ill have to go hunting
[03:03] <frederick85> does anyone know how I can apply ladspa effects to my microphone without having to record things
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> frederick85:  like make you sound like donald duck on Skype? :)
[03:04] <CVirus> Out_Cold: happens ALL the time :-D
[03:05] <Out_Cold> CVirus, when i've completely dropped to shell i always switch tty's so i notice.. but i use xchat and gnome-terminal atm
[03:07] <CVirus> Out_Cold: why did you fully drop to shell ?
[03:07] <CVirus> I was considering doing so owing to the lack of good DE's or wm's
[03:07] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i do when i'm reading man/usr pages and trying to learn/fix
[03:07] <Einherjar> Question about RAID systems: I had a 2-disc RAID 0 system that I would like to change to a 1-disc non-RAID system with a new OS. I thought it would be possible to just remove one of the drives and boot from the disc, but the system puts out a disc-error warning beep. (bit more to come)
[03:07] <CVirus> but then I decided to use KDE till I finish my own super-awesome DE
[03:08] <Einherjar> When I try to boot to the OS I had, now, after replacing the disc, it comes up with a kernel panic, saying it cannot sync the system. Is there a way to fix this, or to overwrite the old system with the new one?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Ulttra-Spiffy-Desktop :)
[03:09] <ZykoticK9> Einherjar, with RAID 0 half the data is written to one drive and half to the other -- kinda hard to break that up after, no fault tolerance at all...
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Actually Raid-0  is even more Unreleiable isent it.. (i dont use raid any more)
[03:09] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9, so by removing the one drive and trying to boot to a disc, I messed up the system?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> More unrelieable then a single hd. :) i guess ya can say
[03:10] <Einherjar> I'm finding that out, in a way I'd rather not, Dr_Willis.
[03:10] <cegorach> is there a better way to recover files from a bad hdd than dd_rhelp?
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> Einherjar, what do you mean by boot to a disc?  a cdrom should be fine.  but no way to boot from only 1 HD of your RAID0
[03:10] <Edgan> Dr_Willis: you will have to put the drive back in, and use a third source of storage to backup the data to.
[03:10] <Trek> anyone know if there will be any issues with the following hardware with 9.04 Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/361006/
[03:11] <Ziber> So nobody has any ideas a) why my network card is a "bridge" and not a "controller" and b) why the internet doesnt work?
[03:11] <scunizi> Einherjar: did you make sure the drive was put back in the same position on the motherboard when you replaced it?
[03:11] <Edgan> Dr_Willis: Then you could do a fresh install to one of the original hard drives.
[03:11] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9, I accidentally tried booting to a single drive at first, because my boot order did not include the CD/DVD as the first option.
[03:11] <Trek> Ziber: Because its a bridge and not a controller, you don't have internet.
[03:12] <Ziber> Trek: yes, i got that. how do i fix that?
[03:12] <Trek> Ziber: not sure, usually its a hardware related issue
[03:12] <Einherjar> scunizi, that's the first thing I checked. The cables are all correct, and I've tried switching them, to make sure.
[03:12] <Ziber> :/
[03:12] <iflema> Trek download a live cd of 9.04 and boot it live.....
[03:12] <scunizi> Einherjar: and the boot order is the same?
[03:12] <Einherjar> When I attempt to boot to a live CD, it fails. Doing a memory check turns up a large number of errors.
[03:12] <ziroday> Trek: shouldn't be, however motherboards can be funny
[03:13] <Trek> iflema: i'm asking before I get the hardware (i'm planning the upgrades, don't have the hardware yet)
[03:13] <Einherjar> No, I corrected the boot order, and booting from a CD comes first. When I do, however, it fails, and the memory check turns up errors.
[03:13] <Trek> ziroday: main issue is that its a quad-core and DDR3 ram, not DDR2 and dual core, hence why I asked
[03:13] <scunizi> Einherjar: mem check on the cd or ram?
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, did you try what i sent you in a pastbin awhile ago?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/360983/ about rmmod forcedeth etc
[03:13] <Einherjar> scunizi, mem check.
[03:14] <ziroday> Trek: Ubuntu is fully compatible with quad core and DDR3 ram systems, however if it doesn't like the motherboard :)
[03:14] <scunizi> Einherjar: so bad ram... ouch
[03:14] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: no, didnt see it, sorry, will look now
[03:14] <Einherjar> Bad RAM? Even if I had just booted to the normal system right before to backup the files on it?
[03:15] <wasutton3> i have done something extremely stupid. I have overwritten /bin/bash. is there a way for me to recover, and if so, how/
[03:15] <Trek> ziroday: ever hear of Ubuntu not working with Gigabyte boards?
[03:15] <Trek> wasutton3: reinstall the OS
[03:15] <ziroday> Trek: yes
[03:15] <Out_Cold> CVirus, well the first thing i notice with the script is the mkdir /mnt/sdb1 what if it's not sdb1??
[03:15] <wasutton3> Trek: is that the only way?
[03:16] <Trek> wasutton3: only absolute sure way to fix it.  there might be other ways though
[03:16] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: rmmmod supposed to take a bit to finish?
[03:16] <Einherjar> OK. I'll pull out one of the RAM sticks, and if that doesn't work, switch it with the other. I hope that is it.
[03:16] <iflema> Ziber /etc/network/interfaces strip away all but lo references
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install dash"?
[03:16] <Ziber> iflema: why?
[03:16] <iflema> Ziber to remove the bridge...
[03:16] <Ziber> well, im doing a "rmmod forcedeth" atm...
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> iflema, Ziber the bridge Ziber is refering to is not a network bridge but how the NIC is identified in lspci?  i have NO idea why.
[03:17] <cegorach> does anyone know a good way to recover data from a bad harddrive?
[03:17] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9: i got dash installed
[03:17] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: rmmod is taking a while...
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, rmmod should only take a second
[03:17] <Ziber> :/
[03:17] <ziroday> cegorach: has it made the clicks of death?
[03:18] <Ziber> i think it froze.
[03:18] <abumaia> how do I find out what version my wifi driver is?
[03:18] <CVirus>  Out_Cold: I have a script for sdc and sdd
[03:18] <cegorach> ziroday: i dont believe so (click of death is horrid clicking coming from the drive, right?)
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, tried "sudo apt-get install bash" then?
[03:19] <CVirus> Out_Cold: and I'm expecting only disks with 1 partition to be mounted
[03:19] <ziroday> cegorach: yes, its when the pin becomes unaligned and scratches the magnetic plates. What exactly is wrong with the drive?
[03:19] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9: i tried that, ill paste it really quick
[03:19] <Einherjar> scunizi, thank you. One of my sticks of RAM was cracked, probably when I was fiddling with the drive to pull it out.
[03:20] <Einherjar> Sadly, the sticks are 2 GB, while the drives are only 20s for testing purposes. Too bad it wasn't the drive that was bad, instead.
[03:20] <scunizi> Einherjar: glad you found it.. did you have anther to replace it?
[03:20] <cegorach> ziroday: from my friend's gf - the mac froze up, and then she punched the keyboard, now the computer wont boot
[03:20] <ziroday> cegorach: so you don't actually no if the hard drive is naft?
[03:20] <meowbuntu> hi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???
[03:20] <ziroday> s/no/know
[03:21] <cegorach> ziroday: i now have it mounted in my ubuntu box, and i'm trying to back up the data for them
[03:21] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: had to restart. couldnt alt+c out of it. anything else to try? that didnt do it, btw. lspci still says bridge
[03:21] <cegorach> ziroday: naft?
[03:21] <Einherjar> scunizi, no, but it was a pair of 2 GB sticks. C'est la vie. An expensive lesson to be more careful than I thought I was.
[03:21] <ziroday> cegorach: okay, and does ubuntu recognize the drive?
[03:21] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, lspci will probably always say bridge instead of controller -- for whatever reason???
[03:21] <scunizi> Einherjar: I have some old, old edo mem sticks if you want.. by old I mean '87 ish
[03:22] <wasutton3> KykoticK9: this is what i got http://pastebin.com/m11905b37
[03:22] <frederick85> Dr_Willis: yes i wanna sound different on skype, a bit of reverb would be good
[03:22] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: and because it does, i have no internet?
[03:22] <cegorach> ziroday: it recognized the drive and mounted it, but it lagged the crap out of all the file system windows
[03:22] <ziroday> cegorach: err okay, well just copy the drive contents onto an external drive (using rsync or whatever)
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, ?
[03:23] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: well, i cant get internet, at all. cant ping the router, etc. someone said it was because its a bridge and not a controller?
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, i imagine your error is caused because one of the install scripts is trying to call /bin/bash - which isn't there
[03:23] <cegorach> ziroday: well, i tried to copy using cp, but it kept giving me a 'cannot stat ... I/O error'
[03:24] <meowbuntu> hi sometimes on my computer firefox and google chrome wont let me play flashmedia. is there a browser that is real low on resources but can still let me view flash media???
[03:24] <Einherjar> scunizi, Nah. I have a few 256 I can use for the time being. Just a bit longer before I can get another big one to replace it. Thank you, though.
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i understand your problem - you're not the only person with this chipset/nic to have problems - it was a search that found me those directions for rmmod
[03:24] <wasutton3> KykoticK9, would it be possible to just copy /bin/bash from a different computer?
[03:24] <ziroday> cegorach: ookay, well if I were you I'd just try get the documents she wants first, and then get the less important stuff later
[03:25] <Einherjar> ZykoticK9 and scunizi, I thank you both for the help. I'm still learning Linux, and computers in general. Hopefully I'll be able to repay your aid by helping others in the future!
[03:25] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: and the only solution is to replace the hardware?
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, certainly worth a try -- you MIGHT even try linking dash to bash to test
[03:25] <wasutton3> true
[03:25] <cegorach> ziroday: ok.. i'll try to see if it even lets me do that... i've been trying to use dd_rhelp, but that is taking for ever, and i dont think it is actually copying anything
[03:25] <Out_Cold> CVirus, i was just reading but -> If your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that your user has the correct privileges. Go to System->Administration->User and Groups, choose the user, click on "Properties", then go to the "User Privileges" tab. You should have the "Access external storage devices automatically" option checked.
[03:26] <Out_Cold> or unchecked
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, i don't know man -- i don't have the same hardware/issue... but hopefully it's a solveable problem
[03:26] <Ziber> :/
[03:26] <meowbuntu> any ideas on a really low resourse webbrowser that still plays flashmedia
[03:26] <Ziber> this is silly. an old laptop that my dad was going to trash, but i stole and coverted into a server, works fine. but my custom-built desktop has problems :(
[03:27] <Out_Cold> meowbuntu, seamonkey maybe?
[03:27] <Out_Cold> Ziber, my custom built everythings have problems :p
[03:27] <coz_> meowbuntu,  google chrome is fairly good
[03:27] <abumaia> is there a way to find my wifi driver version?
[03:28] <wasutton3> ZykoticK9, you are brilliant, i linked it, then was able to install and everything was fine again, no errors, thanks
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, glad you got it :)
[03:29] <meowbuntu> coz_, i saisd lower than forefox and chrome
[03:29] <petsounds> meowbuntu, midori
[03:29] <coz_> meowbuntu,  oh sorry   then I am not sure...
[03:29] <Ziber> ZykoticK9: thanks for ur help tho
[03:30] <meowbuntu> petsounds, aint madori a kde app
[03:30] <spiffydiffy> Anyone here good at figuring out boot/partitioning problems?
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> Ziber, your welcome man - i hope you get it working!
[03:30] <petsounds> meowbuntu, no midori is GTK+
[03:30] <MrUnix> !ask | spiffydiffy
[03:30] <coz_> meowbuntu,  its another webkit based browser    as is chrome
[03:31] <spiffydiffy> Funny, I thought I DID ask a question.
[03:32] <Trek> spiffydiffy: you didn't specify a specific enough question
[03:32] <abumaia> wow
[03:32] <abumaia> he left
[03:32] <Trek> indeed he did, abumaia
[03:33] <MrUnix> His issue obviously wasn't important.
[03:33] <Trek> or maybe he expected a faster response, MrUnix
[03:34] <CVirus> Out_Cold: I disabled automount already using gconf-editor
[03:34] <CAPcap> I have a wireless internet issue.
[03:34] <Trek> CAPcap, whats your issue?
[03:35] <mediaprodigy> Question: Need an app that is similar to Logic, Protools any recommendations.. in the past someone recommended Rosegarden.. any thoughts
[03:35] <mediaprodigy> Im trying to do a remix to a song and need the appropriate software for ubuntu
[03:36] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  mm  I do most of my music stuff onwindows  unfortuantly
[03:36] <CAPcap> We use a voip phone service in my home. Its buggy and so several times a day we have to reset the modem and router and voip box. when we do this i am obviously forcefully disconnected on my computer. when i was running windows it reconnected just fine but now when we reset I have to reboot my computer to get it to connect to the internet again. how can i fix that?
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  how about ardour ?
[03:37] <scunizi> google "music stuff ubuntu" :)
[03:37] <mediaprodigy> coz: yeah.. i have a dual boot.. so i have xp but seriously am trying to not use it..
[03:37] <MauritianGuy> woow
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,    http://ardour.org/
[03:37] <MauritianGuy> its took me a while to realise that i had to complete my nick registration to get here lol
[03:37] <mediaprodigy> scunizi: I am but this channel always has good perspectives..
[03:37] <coz_> mediaprodigy,  and I Believe you just need to   sudo apt-get install ardour
[03:38] <scunizi> CAPcap: you voip service doesn't have QoS .. it's going through the internet cloud.. what service do you have?
[03:38] <MrUnix> mediaprodigy, just do like the rest of us and sever your ties to windows completely.
[03:38] <CAPcap> idk something obscure
[03:38] <Trek> MauritianGuy, it took a person named iAmEpic an hour to realize he had to post on my channel
[03:38] <MrUnix> Be a man and let Linux take over your entire HDD.
[03:38] <MauritianGuy> guys i am having a problem installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53-pkg1.run
[03:38] <maco> MrUnix: that has what, exactly, to do with being a man?
[03:38] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  what steps have you taken so far?
[03:39] <MauritianGuy> i have tried to get to the terminal and login as root
[03:39] <scunizi> CAPcap: is it a sip line you're using with a software client? or a hard phone? is there a box you plug into the internet and then plug the phones into?
[03:39] <CAPcap> its called Voipo scunizi
[03:39] <MrUnix> maco, he's making excuses not to install Linux as his sole OS. Men don't make excuses.
[03:39] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  have you downloaded this driver from nvidia?
[03:39] <MauritianGuy> then tried to accedd the desktop directory where the file is but i cannto access it from there
[03:39] <CAPcap> and theres a box we plug our phones into
[03:39] <maco> MrUnix: perhaps some men do. who made you arbiter of what men do and do not do?
[03:39] <Fezzler> my sound is "broken" , how to I assess/diagnos repair
[03:40] <mediaprodigy> MrUnix: I am trying to get back into djing.. using serato.. mac and xp only and my only mac died.. that was the day I decided it was time to move to ubuntu.
[03:40] <MauritianGuy> so i doubleclick and run it on the terminal option but with this option u cannot login as root before so i am stuck
[03:40] <scunizi> CAPcap: so they give you a voip adaptor it looks like .. is that right?
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  one thing to keep in mind is that when you are talking to someone specifically here...type the first few letter of the name and hit tab to complete...this will alert them
[03:40] <maco> MauritianGuy: sudo -i
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  no that wont work that way  not is it the best way to do it
[03:40] <MrUnix> maco, Being a man I think I have first-hand experience in this matter.
[03:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy, ` first   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:40] <maco> MrUnix: but you are not the boss of all men
[03:40] <scunizi> CAPcap: just saw your post about the box
[03:41] <MrUnix> maco, when did I ever say I was the boss of all men?
[03:41] <petsounds> mediaprodigy, #opensourcemusicians
[03:41] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  when i do the sudo it will fix the install ?
[03:41] <Fezzler> using 9.10
[03:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  no
[03:41] <scunizi> CAPcap: do you have that box plugged into your router or direct into your internet connection (dsl or cable)
[03:41] <maco> MrUnix: you are trying to decide what determines being a Real Man. please do not. it is not welcoming to people who do not fit *your* definition
[03:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  first    do this    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:41] <Trek> !offtopic | maco
[03:41] <fivetwentysix> Where does gem install rails on Ubuntu? Typing rails does not do anything.
[03:42] <CAPcap> scunizi phone >router> cable modem
[03:42] <MrUnix> maco, You're taking an obvious joke and blowing it way out of proportion. I suggest you take it to ot or you cool off bud. This is a support channel.
[03:42] <meowbuntu> ok how do i turn off process i dont kneed that may be running in background
[03:42] <maco> MrUnix: then please do not make such jokes in here
[03:42] <scunizi> CAPcap: phone>adaptor>router>cable modem?
[03:42] <MrUnix> Thanks Trek
[03:42] <maco> sexism is not appreciated
[03:42] <Trek> yw, Mr. Unix, but I almost issued one on you too
[03:42] <CAPcap> scunizi yeah sorry =P
[03:42] <MrUnix> meowbuntu, run ps in terminal to find them then kill them.
[03:42] <coz_> meowbuntu,  you could install sysv-rc-conf
[03:42] <meowbuntu> oy keep it on topic please
[03:42] <meowbuntu> !offtopic
[03:43] <MrUnix> Trek, I was wrong for posting the joke, I didn't mean to let it carry on so far.
[03:43] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  ERROR: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[03:43] <objorn> where might i find the xorg.conf?
[03:43] <Trek> MrUnix, PM me if you want to discuss my reasons for almost issuing one on you
[03:43] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  dont try to install this yet...did you install   build-essential ?
[03:43] <MauritianGuy> yep i did
[03:43] <coz_> ok
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> objorn, in 9.10 there isn't one by default
[03:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   now is there a driver already installed via  hardwa
[03:44] <coz_> drives
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: i need one
[03:44] <MauritianGuy> how do i check
[03:44] <MauritianGuy> how do i check coz_
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> objorn, but it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <scunizi> CAPcap: sometimes you get better service if it's cable modem>adaptor>router .. the reasoning is that the adaptor, also called an ATA, has the ability to prioritize the packets leaving your lan for the internet. so with the adaptor between the cable modem and router it can effectively choke data traffic to allow the voice
[03:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   system/administration/hardware drivers
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: but it isn't there
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> objorn, you using nvidia?
[03:44] <meowbuntu> MrUnix, ps is no good did not even show xchat there thats running
[03:44] <objorn> ZykoticK9: intel
[03:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  are any of those drivers enabled yet?
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> objorn, sorry man, not sure how to generate one with intel - best of luck
[03:45] <meowbuntu> coz_, is there a nore gtk frount end for sysv-rc-conf
[03:45] <CAPcap> scunizi i'll look into seeing if we can set it up that way. but really what i want to know is how to get my computer to reconnect after the reset, without rebooting my entire system
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,  no I dont think so   you have to run  sudo sysv-rc-conf
[03:46] <scunizi> CAPcap: sudo service networking restart
[03:46] <meowbuntu> coz_, for alsamixer there is gnome-alsamixer
[03:46] <MrUnix> meowbuntu, ps -A or ps aux | less
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,   understood
[03:46] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  that might not work
[03:46] <coz_> meowbuntu,  there is also alsamixer-gui
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> objorn, without an Xorg running i think "Xorg -configure" will make one to /root then you can copy/rename it to correct location
[03:46] <CAPcap> ok well what do u think might? it just sits there loading all day and never connecting
[03:46] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  I had to use 'sudo ifconfig <interfaceName> down up' to effectively reboot each interface
[03:46] <scunizi> Trek: what's the right way .. use to involve sudo /etc/init.d/<something>
[03:47] <Fezzler> is there a command line instruction I can run to assess why I have no sound
[03:47] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  There is an Nvidia version 173 which is installed and 185 is the recomended one but in't the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53 better
[03:47] <Trek> scunizi CAPcap:  what I've run into is that I used ifconfig and the down and up flags to reboot the interface(s)
[03:47] <vamped> wow i'm puzzled. don't you need SWAP in order to suspend? I just suspended & resumed, and I have no SWAP
[03:47] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok there are a few steps you have to do before you can install the official navidia driver  so first thing is to get a pencil and paper
[03:47] <scunizi> Trek: CAPcap now I remember .. haven't had to use that in a while.. I typically right mouse click the network icon and choose disconnect then reconnect.
[03:47] <CAPcap> trek thats beyond me... im not very good with the terminal
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> vamped, i think it's hibernate that requires swap
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, you using an ethernet cable?
[03:48] <CAPcap> and scunizi ive tried that it isnt working
[03:48] <MauritianGuy> brb coz_
[03:48] <abumaia> how do I find the version number of my wifi driver?
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, or wifi?
[03:48] <CAPcap> Trek no wireless
[03:48] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, do me a favor: go into terminal type "ifconfig"
[03:48] <coz_> abumaia,   I am not sure  but if no one here has an response try the ##linux channel
[03:48] <Trek> CAPcap, is a wlan0 listed there?
[03:48] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  got it
[03:48] <CAPcap> Trek Built in wifi on my laptop
[03:48] <CAPcap> ok
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok  DO NOT do anything until i say go ...write this stuff down
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,     ctrl+alt+F1
[03:49] <CAPcap> no i have lo
[03:49] <MauritianGuy> do u mind sending me the instruction on private coz_
[03:49] <coz_> MauritianGuy,   no I dont mind
[03:49] <CAPcap> and eth1 and eth0
[03:49] <wasutton3> is there a way to have root run a command at login of a regular user?
[03:49] <karmst> hello
[03:49] <Trek> CAPcap, then we'll do this: we'll reboot all interfaces in one line.
[03:49] <MrUnix> !hi | karmst
[03:49] <happy> wasutton3: su - username
[03:49] <karmst> Is there a way to use Ubuntu Karmic as a Firewall for dual wan with QOS ability?
[03:50] <CAPcap> Trek what is a Local Loopback?
[03:50] <wasutton3> happy: i mean have it run automatically, without any password requirement or prompt
[03:50] <happy> wasutton3: su does not require a password if you are root
[03:50] <scunizi> karmst: qos is only on your lan.. you can't qos packets once they hit the internet
[03:50] <Trek> CAPcap, loopback is somehting that the system uses to communicate with itself on a network
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, loopback is 127.0.0.1 - basically yourself
[03:51] <Gnea> !java
[03:51] <CAPcap> ok :)
[03:51] <happy> wasutton3: or am I misunderstanding the question?
[03:51] <karmst> right scunizi I need a gateway solution that has QOS for VoIP
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap, with a wlan0 not existing, but an eth0 and eth1 means wifi = eth in the detection
[03:51] <Trek> nevertheless...
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap, type this in terminal on one line: sudo ifconfig eth0 down up; sudo ifconfig eth1 down up
[03:51] <karmst> can Ubuntu be a gateway?
[03:51] <CAPcap> the line that says eth1 has all my connection details
[03:51] <wasutton3> happy: but i am logging in as my user. the script has to be run with root permissions but can only be run once the gnome has loaded completely
[03:51] <CAPcap> so it must be my wireless....
[03:51] <MrUnix> karmst, yes it can.
[03:51] <Trek> CAPcap: then only do this: sudo ifconfig eth1 down up
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: in terminal
[03:52] <happy> wasutton3: ok, so you want the user to run as root. Not the root to run as user
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: then use your connection manager to select the network again
[03:52] <karmst> MrUnix: can you team two WAN interfaces together with it?
[03:52] <Trek> CAPcap: should allow you to reconnect
[03:52] <wasutton3> happy: correct
[03:52] <scunizi> karmst: asterisk will probably do that.. QoS can occationally be implemented in your router or in a smart switch.. but again.. QoS for voIP will only work within your lan..
[03:52] <happy> wasutton3: there is a way to allow passwordless sudo for certain programs
[03:53] <MrUnix> karmst, This isn't really my department. I'm sorry.
[03:53] <Trek> CAPcap: you will lose your connection if you're using that computer on this chat though, at least for a few minutes
[03:53] <scunizi> karmst: unless you have a t-1 from a carrier and they have the ability to put that on the circuit
[03:53] <happy> wasutton3: you could make a non editable root owned script. And then say it can be run as root without a password.
[03:53] <wasutton3> happy: ok, where would i find this?
[03:53] <happy> wasutton3: I do not know off the top of my head how to do that. Let me look it up
[03:54] <Fezzler> how do I check my sound card drivers
[03:54] <karmst> scunizi: my problem is that the VoIP calls are not clear and that other services are sucking up all the available bandwidth
[03:54] <wasutton3> ok
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> wasutton3, research the sudoers file
[03:54] <karmst> so I need to somehow make those calls packet priority
[03:55] <CAPcap> ok, well for now i cant see that it did anything but i'll try it next time we have a reset. thanks for all of your help Trek and scunizi
[03:55] <Trek> CAPcap: wait
[03:55] <Trek> ...
[03:55] <wasutton3> ok
[03:55] <happy> wasutton3: http://polishlinux.org/first-steps/root-account/sudo-faq/
[03:55] <scunizi> karmst: what kind of router do you have?
[03:56] <karmst> a syswan 24vws vpn
[03:56] <karmst> but I've since moved to a VMware esxi server with a virtual router
[03:56] <happy> wasutton3: you need to make sure to read everything there. And back up the sudoers file. And make sure the script you allow to run can not be tampered with by users. you are walking into one of the biggest security minefields.
[03:56] <karmst> I'm thinking about using vyatta
[03:56] <happy> wasutton3: have fun :-P
[03:58] <Mr_Queue> why not just include it in the start up scripts wasutton3?
[03:59] <vajorie> you gotta stop diverting everyone to ubuntu-unregged... it's extremely annoying.
[03:59] <scunizi> karmst: google doesn't find a syswan.. if the new router is virtual look into having it put a TOS bit on the voip traffic and give it priority..  however a smart switch will also do this effectively and may be easier.. that's about as much as I can guide you.
[03:59] <karmst> vajorie just register your nick and then add the password to your irc profile
[03:59] <johntramp> hi i have my email on another machine using getmail. i have been accessing it via ssh and mutt, which mostly works well except i have to check for new mails all the time. is there a way i could use something locally to notify me when new mail arrives?
[03:59] <karmst> hmm
[04:00] <karmst> I have a smart switch as well
[04:00] <MrUnix> Where is the sudoers file on Ubuntu? /etc/sudoers?
[04:00] <karmst>  I have a dell powerconnect 4800
[04:00] <MrUnix> (I'm on Fedora)
[04:00] <Trek> MrUnix: i think so
[04:00] <Trek> MrUnix: use sudo to edit it
[04:00] <vajorie> karmst: it's registered. I autojoin to ubuntu bf I have time to identify. also, I don't see the point of having folks register their usernames. I'm guessing a script can do that easily for random nicks.
[04:00] <MrUnix> Trek, thanks. =P I need to put Ubuntu on a VM so I can remember all of this stuff.
[04:01] <Trek> MrUnix: let me check
[04:01] <Trek> MrUnix: yeah, thats where it is, but even with sudo I can't edit it.  might be that I need to login as root
[04:02] <Mr_Queue> Trek: no no... visudo to edit.
[04:02] <Trek> thanks Mr_Queue
[04:02] <naiad> can xrandr be used with xinerama or do they not coexist?
[04:02] <MrUnix> vajorie, Most IRC channels require a registered nick to view or post in a discussion. It is true that simple scripts can be used to create registered users en masse, but to be honest people rarely care enough to try.
[04:02] <MrUnix> Thanks Trek
[04:02] <scunizi> karmst: a lot of smart switched have PoS and voip priority.. easier than messing with a router or virtual router.
[04:03] <karmst> ah
[04:03] <karmst> you may be right
[04:03] <fivetwentysix> why is the rails package out of date
[04:04] <scunizi> karmst: *PoE not PoS sorry.. "Power over Ethernet"
[04:08] <scunizi> naiad: I don't think they coexist.. if you use xinerama you may have to write your own xorg.conf
[04:08] <karmst> scunizi: my switch has Class of Service or COS is that the same thing?
[04:08] <scunizi> karmst: might be..
[04:08] <naiad> trying to have 1 lcd in landscape, 1 in portrait and be able to drag windows between them.  preferrably being able to switch from landscape/portrait without restarting x
[04:08] <Mr_Queue> as in QoS?
[04:09] <Mr_Queue> karmst: ^^
[04:09] <scunizi> karmst: I'd say yes.. I've forgotten what number represents voip qos  .. Mr_Queue ..yes
[04:09] <Lostinspace_46> @new york
[04:10] <karmst> ah
[04:10] <Mr_Queue> QoS rules just give priority to some packets over others. In my opinion you'd need to have a rather over-worked router for it to matter..
[04:10] <Mr_Queue> 50-100 clients...
[04:11] <Trek> Mr_Queue, how exactly can you get gedit to edit /etc/sudoers ?
[04:11] <karmst> Mr_Queue: I'm having VoIP issues
[04:11] <karmst> calls are all garbled and nothing is clear
[04:11] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: karmst would like to prioritize only on the lan since you can't in the cloud.. he's got other stuff on the lan eating bandwidth
[04:11] <Mr_Queue> Trek: 'sudo visudo'
[04:12] <Mr_Queue> karmst: that could be anything under the sun really......
[04:12] <Trek> Mr_Queue, I meanm with the GUI text editor, not CLI-based text editor
[04:12] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: a smart switch of the right type will prioritize voip traffic on the lan
[04:12] <karmst> well I put a sniffer and can see where the traffic is being over run by mail server, data transfers and backups
[04:13] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: sure... but what's smart? off the shelf walmart hardware? Powered by OpenWRT?
[04:13] <karmst> haha
[04:13] <karmst> no I have a Dell PowerConnect 2724
[04:13] <karmst> it is a managed switch
[04:14] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:14] <Blue1> you can tell if it's a dell....
[04:14] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: no.. you're thinking router.. I'm talking dedicated switch $400 and north of that.. Netgear, linksys, cisco.. typically 12-24-48 port with PoE
[04:14] <Mr_Queue> Trek: not to be a donk, but I don't know/care... 'sudo visudo' pretty much if you're playing with that you better be able to do it from something other than Firefox/OpenOffice, else leave it be until things catch up to your needs..
[04:15] <Trek> okay, thanks, Mr_Queue
[04:15] <Screamo_Smurf> i need help with automagickly mounting hd's at startup
[04:15] <ziroday> !fstab > Screamo_Smurf
[04:15] <Mr_Queue> Trek: reason being..
[04:16] <karmst> ok this is talking about DSCP egress queue values
[04:17] <Trek> Mr_Queue: found my answer.  forgot I asked about this on the fourms :P
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> Trek: 'visudo' not only enables a lock file so no one else can be editing sudoers at the same time, there are a few checks for what works and what doesnt.. So if you have a typo it will catch it..
[04:17] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:17] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: karmst here's one.. much more expensive than the one that I give clients but essentially the features are very similar.. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=netgear+24+port+poe+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6072252272563113789&ei=_3daS6bgF5DysQOPr-ScAw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDQQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: what are you playing with?
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> TINYURL
[04:18] <Screamo_Smurf> yea
[04:18] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: karmst http://tinyurl.com/ygu3re3
[04:19] <karmst> scunizi: yeah I have basically a similar device
[04:19] <karmst> it's like an $800.00 switch
[04:19] <n00p> Your unreg channel is fucked up, #ubuntu. Get rid of it, it's so restrictive: I can't change nickname until I part it, even if I log in.
[04:20] <scunizi> karmst: the one I typically play with retails for around $400
[04:20] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: well to be honest I've never seen that hardware. No clue what it's powered by, and probably isn't Ubuntu/Debian so I would guess you're in the wrong area for answers.. I mean the easy obvious stuff of QoS should somewhat jump out imo.. but if now.. write the firmware keyholder?
[04:20] <karmst> but this is doing priority by actual physical port on the switch
[04:21] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: Look at OpenWRT.
[04:22] <scunizi> karmst: can or not.. the smart switches can do vlan, port designation, QoS, PoE etc.. on one port or all.
[04:22] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: http://openwrt.org/
[04:23] <Mr_Queue> Regardless, and no offense, offtopic...
[04:23] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: I've seen OpenWRT and it's fine as a firmware replacement on small non-commercial linksys routers and others.. however what I'm talking to karmst about is commercial grade equipment.. an actual switch.. it's not a router and has no routing functions perse.. not in the classic sense anyway..
[04:24] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: you can hook a fiber link directly to it, hook several together with fiber etc..
[04:24] <Mr_Queue> scunizi: Have you not seen RouterStation Pro by Ubiquiti? Pretty serious hardware bro... http://www.ubnt.com/products/rspro.php
[04:25] <Mr_Queue> Have a look what it ships with..
[04:25] <wasutton3> is there a command i can enter to enable or disable a system wide proxy ( i only need it sometimes but its often enough that changing it gets old fast)
[04:25] <Mr_Queue> wasutton3: it's called a script.
[04:25] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday im not completly understading it
[04:26] <wasutton3> Mr_Queue, i figured as much i just dont know what needs to be entered
[04:26] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: sure, what about?
[04:26] <Screamo_Smurf> lol
[04:26] <Screamo_Smurf> ummm
[04:26] <scunizi> Mr_Queue: looks nice but it's still not carrier grade stuff. I'd never run a serious business with it..
[04:27] <ziroday> scunizi: Mr_Queue: any chance you could take your networking discussion to ##networking?
[04:27] <Screamo_Smurf> pretty much the whole thing lol
[04:27] <Mr_Queue> wasutton3: well buddy.......
[04:27] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: ookay :), where have you read up to?
[04:27] <Mr_Queue> ziroday: I'm with you there dude.. But I'm gonna miss the meeting. :)
[04:27] <Quan-Time> i have steam open, and its actively downloading an update,, how can i tell waht its connecting to ? whats the command from a term to list all active connections ?
[04:27] <Screamo_Smurf> well i got the fstab file open, but im not sure what to put in lol
[04:27] <panfist> can anyone explain why the testdisk package was dropped from the repositories?
[04:27] <panfist> is there something better in there now?
[04:28] <spiffydiffy> Does anyone know why a fresh install onto a hardware RAID-0 will boot only from the live CD?  This is single OS setup and the 9.10 liveCD was told to use the entire disk.
[04:28] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: right, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[04:28] <Screamo_Smurf> i want to auto mount these drives: /dev/sdc1: UUID="AC88BCB688BC807E" LABEL="Old computer" TYPE="ntfs" and /dev/sdb1: UUID="c96e3e4b-03e2-413b-a10a-36e67bc4fcdc" TYPE="ext4"
[04:28] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: right, give me a sec
[04:29] <ziroday> panfist: erm it is in the repo's since dapper, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=testdisk&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[04:29] <Mr_Queue> Quan-Time: like netstat?
[04:29] <Quan-Time> Mr_Queue: yup, that did it
[04:29] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: made a mount point?
[04:29] <panfist> aaaah i forgot to include universe in my new environment thanks
[04:29] <Quan-Time> i have a data cap where i am, BUT some steam servers are "unmetered" just making sure it was connected properly
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> well they are both currently mounted and they are where i want them to be
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> Screamo_Smurf: where's grub?
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> since the folders exist right now idk if that would casue a problem
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> Screamo_Smurf: wrong nick...
[04:30] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: where is grub?
[04:30] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:31] <karmst> scunizi: I've figured it out. You have to create a VLAN first and then give that priority over the other traffic in the switch
[04:31] <seanp8088> hello, i just need someone to post their /etc/init/dmesg.conf
[04:31] <seanp8088> i accidently borked mine
[04:31] <scunizi> karmst: that's one way :)
[04:31] <GhostWolf> hey all, im wondering if anyone can help me? im trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10, reason im trying to do this is trying to get the modem for my dial up to be enabled
[04:31] <karmst> ;)
[04:31] <seanp8088> this is for karmic server if it matters
[04:31] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: okay, well where do you want to mount the partitions? Normally I would create a folder like /media/oldfolder
[04:31] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue:Not sure.  Everything I've read uses /dev/hda but my system has a hardware RAID-O and I can't figure out what the dev name actually is.
[04:31] <Screamo_Smurf> pretty much like that
[04:32] <Screamo_Smurf> like /media/oldcomputer and the same for the other one
[04:32] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: and so for your first fstab line it would be UUID=AC88BCB688BC807E /media/oldcomputer ntfs defaults 0 0
[04:32] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[04:32] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: unlucky for you.. I have yet to play with RAID.. BUT grub is the player here...
[04:33] <Screamo_Smurf> so i just add that to fstab?
[04:33] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: sure, if you are not sure feel free to paste your entire fstab after
[04:33] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: Yes, and I have read many grub tutorials.  Lamentably, they all talk about single IDE or SATA setups, and use dev names that don't apply to me.  When I do a df, I get a very confusing response.
[04:33] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: pastebin grub.cfg/menu?
[04:34] <seanp8088> so could someone please post their default /etc/init/dmesg.conf file, i accidently overwrote mine :(
[04:34] <Mr_Queue> Lamentably NICE... we've been on a word of the day kick for a couple weeks now a few friends and I.
[04:34] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: not sure what you are asking.....  Somewhat new to linux (came from BSD).
[04:35] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: Well... /boot will have grub.<something> depending on what release your chilling at..
[04:35] <GhostWolf> can anyone please help me? please.. i been having problems trying to find the network settings in ubuntu 9.10 so i can enable the data modem so i can use dial up
[04:36] <ziroday> seanp8088: http://pastebin.com/f2e259c80
[04:36] <seanp8088> ziroday: thx dood
[04:36] <spiffydiffy> Mr_Queue: Okay, so you're looking for the config file for grub, right?
[04:36] <kora-chan> hi, im using 9.10 and just installed a 2.6.32 kernel to get the sound working on my mac book pro 5,5. this worked, but after a reboot my wireless lan doesnt work anymore (used the broadcom drivers from restricted). now i cant install them again from the gui. any idea how i can i install those drivers manually for my new kernel?
[04:36] <ziroday> GhostWolf: right click on network manager and select edit connections
[04:36] <JabberWalkie> ok, so I tried to install usb-creator as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick   so I can install ubuntu on a computer using a usb memory stick. It comes up as not found...
[04:36] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5b91ef4
[04:36] <seanp8088> GhostWolf: there should be a dial-up config tab on the network settings dialog box.  are you running -desktop or -server?
[04:36] <rsmith16384> hello all
[04:36] <Mr_Queue> spiffydiffy: yes.
[04:37] <Screamo_Smurf> GhostWolf sudo apt-get install wvdial
[04:37] <GhostWolf> ziroday where is the network manager? i don't see network managers in either sections in the system tab
[04:37] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: looks perfect
[04:37] <rsmith16384> has anyone gotten jumbo frames working on realtek gigabit card?
[04:37] <karmst> thanks scunizi for the direction. This is actually working.
[04:37] <ziroday> GhostWolf: its a small icon in the top right on the menubar
[04:37] <rsmith16384> i set mtu to 9000 but ifconfig still shows 1500
[04:37] <GhostWolf> Screamo_Smurf i know i need to get that but i need to get the modem to enable first
[04:37] <scunizi> GhostWolf: pick the upper panel and right mouse click > Add to panel > Modem Monitor  .. this will activate and allow the modem to work I believe.. wvdial is another program that may get loaded at the same time.
[04:37] <iflema> GhostWolf pots? old school dial-up? whats the modem type..... if its not external get ready 4 tears
[04:38] <scunizi> karmst: learned most of my voip stuff over the last 6 months selling IP-PBX's
[04:38] <scunizi> karmst: glad it's working
[04:38] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday what about for the other one? :P
[04:38] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: try editing /etc/network/interfaces and specify the MTU there
[04:38] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: man interfaces
[04:38] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: well similar thing, just change out the UUID, mount point and possibly filesystem. Feel free to go ahead and then pastebin when you are done
[04:38] <rsmith16384> ok will report the result in about 10 mins
[04:38] <GhostWolf> iflema its not external and im not going to go about to not try if people tell me i can't have dial up with it
[04:39] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: so you'd want to append "mtu 9000" in there somewhere.  then do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:39] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: jumbo frames, eh?  Make sure your router / switch / NIC supports them
[04:39] <scunizi> Karius: Is this at work? or at home?
[04:39] <rsmith16384> both do
[04:39] <scunizi> Karius: sorry. wrong nick.
[04:39] <seanp8088> OK, then you should be good to go.  Don't expect it to play nice with other devices that don't support jumbo frames
[04:39] <rsmith16384> i can mismatch itll just be slower right till theyre all on the same page?
[04:40] <iflema> GhostWolf yeah go 4 it.. i just mean prepare yourself for tears.... alot of internal dialup modems are made for windows...
[04:40] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: no, if you have the MTU set incorrectly it'll chop packets and basically not work
[04:40] <penguincentral> hi. does anyone know of an ubuntu deri
[04:40] <penguincentral> err
[04:40] <GhostWolf> iflema yes i know but i already did research there are modems that work with linux and i already checked and ubuntu already noticed it and got the drivers..
[04:40] <rsmith16384> my switch in unmanaged so i guess itll detect them
[04:41] <rsmith16384> ill set the router from a diff puter i guess
[04:41] <iflema> GhostWolf good one.....
[04:41] <seanp8088> rsmith16384: it's worth a shot, if it doesn't work just switch it back to 1500 and restart networking again
[04:41] <rsmith16384> if you dont hear from me , well :)
[04:42] <penguincentral> does anyone know of an ubuntu distro that'll support a comp with a 600 MHz processor and 128 mb of ram?
[04:42] <seanp8088> penguincentral: you could try installing -server then just install your own lightweight GUI
[04:42] <penguincentral> k
[04:42] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5c6f2906
[04:42] <seanp8088> penguincentral: that's what I did with a thin client.  You should be able to run 'dwm' which is a very efficient window manager.  make sure you read about how to use it first
[04:43] <seanp8088> penguincentral: there are honestly more efficient distros for low CPU applications
[04:43] <seanp8088> penguincentral: my 1000mhz Via Eden doesn't have enough graphics power to barely browse the web
[04:43] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: err why are you trying to mount the drive that is running ubuntu?
[04:43] <zcat[1]> puppy!
[04:43] <penguincentral> seanp8088: what do you suggest
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> the contents of the hme folder duh :D
[04:44] <seanp8088> penguincentral: puppy linux, damn small linux, or ArchLinux / FreeBSD if you want to work a bit more
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> *home
[04:44] <seanp8088> penguincentral: is it i386 or i686? (does it support instructions like CMOV) ?
[04:44] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: err I would double check your UUID's on that last one
[04:44] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[04:44] <ziroday> Screamo_Smurf: it appears you're trying to mount the same drive twice
[04:45] <ziroday> first as /, then as /media/ubuntu
[04:45] <seanp8088> penguincentral: you can find out by running "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags"
[04:45] <penguincentral> seanp8088: its running win 2000
[04:45] <Screamo_Smurf> lol oops i forgot the kubuntu drive wasnt sda1
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: try CPUZ:
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: oops, http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
[04:46] <penguincentral> ok
[04:46] <seanp8088> penguincentral: debian, for instance, is available in an i386 flavor, where as ubuntu requires i686
[04:47] <Screamo_Smurf> so this would be about right:UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 0
[04:47] <penguincentral> seanp8088: i'm recycling this comp for my uncle that doesnt really know how to use one
[04:48] <robb> so i have ubuntu 9.10, and it was running the geforce2 ti using the supplied drivers (weak/nil 3d support) i added an ATI Rage PCI for dual monitor setup, much reading later, it is apparent this will not work, due to security issues with the driver for ATI and a headache full of compiling kernels for the Nvidia... perhaps better legacy hardware support in future releases, or am i just wishing?
[04:48] <seanp8088> penguincentral: if it's a pentium III then it should be fine
[04:48] <robb> plus i think there is no binary driver support for 9.10/geforce2
[04:48] <penguincentral> seanp8088: yeah it's a p3
[04:48] <robb> forums were mentioning gutsy and such
[04:49] <seanp8088> robb: i found this: http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/
[04:50] <Screamo_Smurf> ziroday UUID=91a46e4b-4651-4b1d-a2a1-2c0e833c555e /media/ubuntu ext4 defaults 0 0
[04:50] <seanp8088> robb: that might be tough tho, dealing with two vid drivers
[04:51] <robb> yes, what i found was similiar
[04:53] <seanp8088> man Tranmission is a joke compared to rtorrent
[04:53] <aski> how can I list hard disk partitions(mounted and unmounted) using command line?
[04:53] <MrUnix> seanp8088, I like Transmission.
[04:53] <seanp8088> but i will say that rtorrent + XMLRPC + SCGI + Apache is a bit of a PITA to set up at first
[04:53] <MrUnix> aski, fdisk -l
[04:54] <aski> MrUnix: ty.
[04:54] <rww> aski: you might need sudo fdisk -l to list them all.
[04:54] <MrUnix> aski, might need to run that as root. No worries.
[04:54] <robb> seanp8088: i think that is referring to the dual head ati/nvidia cards, not TWO cards :)
[04:54] <seanp8088> aski: 'mount' will show you what's mounted.  'df -h' will show you how much space is left on each mounted device
[04:54] <blakkheim> rtorrent here
[04:55] <robb> envyng just gave up on me, the nvidia control applet says i have no cards (wrong driver version for support), etc etc
[04:55] <DJCharlie> Evening all. Quick question. I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this?
[04:55] <voidmage> i'm having steam crash a few seconds after logging in - the error it dumps is err:dbghelp:pe_load_dbg_file Couldn't find .DBG file "COMCTL32.dbg" ("")
[04:55] <seanp8088> robb: yeah, that might be difficult to get working.  at work I run an ATI 200m laptop with the laptop and an external plus an EVGA displaylink USB adapter for a 3rd monitor...but in windows :)
[04:55] <voidmage> google didn't turn up anything, anybody else know what that means?
[04:55] <MrUnix> DJCharlie, punch it in the face.
[04:55] <zomfgcrazy> hello.. =x
[04:56] <MrUnix> !hi | zomfgcrazy
[04:56] <zomfgcrazy> ^.^
[04:56] <CVirus> How can I prevent users from mounting external USB devices using nautilus side pane ?
[04:56] <penguincentral> seanp8088: is there a novice user friendly lightweight distro that you like?
[04:56] <MrUnix> CVirus, did you try asking in ##linux?
[04:56] <aski> seanp8088: ty.
[04:56] <MrUnix> penguincentral, puppy!
[04:57] <robb> penguincentral: ubuntu! :)
[04:57] <MrUnix> Ubuntu is lightweight, but puppy is super lightweight!
[04:57] <MrUnix> Puppy Linux FTW
[04:57] <CVirus> MrUnix: this is more ubuntu/gnome related
[04:57] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  user permissions
[04:57] <penguincentral> k...
[04:57] <MrUnix> CVirus, I understand, but if you don't get any help in here you might try there. =)
[04:57] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  system > ADministration > Users and groups
[04:58] <CVirus> zcat[1]: doesn't work
[04:58] <robb> can't just take /dev/usb (or whatever) permission away from users?
[04:58] <firestrider> hey guys you probably get this a lot but what's the advantage of linux over windows besides cost and being open source
[04:58] <Screamo_Smurf> its just better
[04:58] <zomfgcrazy> is there any way to make a 'mountable' image of a windows partition that i can then save as a singular file and mount in Ubuntu (9.10) and have all of the stuff there as if it were actually hardwired in?
[04:58] <MrUnix> firestrider, This isn't really the channel for that.
[04:58] <Screamo_Smurf> SnakDoc
[04:58] <robb> firestrider: security, important to me
[04:58] <CVirus> robb: ?
[04:59] <MrUnix> firestrider, pm me if you'd like to discuss it.
[04:59] <CVirus> robb: which node exactly ?
[04:59] <SnakDoc> Screamo_Smurf: yes ??
[04:59] <voidmage> personally, i like doing things from the command line, also ssh
[04:59] <robb> CVirus: dunno which node
[04:59] <robb> just an idea
[04:59] <Screamo_Smurf> i know somebody with that nick.. just wondering if maybe your the person i know
[04:59] <CVirus> robb: the nodes are created dynamically anyways .. so I don't think it's of any use to change their permissions as they will be resetted
[04:59] <DJCharlie> I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this? And no, punching it won't help.
[04:59] <zcat[1]> never tried to stop users mounting removable filesystems but the option is there. Doesn't it work?
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> DJCharlie kick it
[05:00] <SnakDoc> Screamo_Smurf: no idea don't know anyone with yours off tom of my head
[05:00] <CVirus> zcat[1]: yes it doesn't :-(
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> hmmm
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> ever heard of xbc?
[05:00] <DJCharlie> Can someone give me a serious answer please?
[05:00] <robb> DJCharlie: perhaps it has it's own power management??
[05:00] <MrUnix> !xubuntu | DJCharlie
[05:00] <Screamo_Smurf> DJCharlie try edit the setting under screensaver
[05:00] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  Oh well. Unplug the USB ports (or fill them with glue) -- hehe
[05:01] <CVirus> dooh
[05:01] <DJCharlie> Screamo_Smurf: As I said, I've done that.
[05:01] <zcat[1]> There'll be some permissions thing in /etc/udev rules that you can change.
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> idk then
[05:01] <Screamo_Smurf> i use kubuntu :D
[05:02] <hiexpo> ok that took me awhile to figure outthat mess
[05:02] <Mr_Queue> no
[05:02] <zomfgcrazy> Is it possible to back up a windows partition (filesystem?) to an image and then be able to mount it in Ubuntu?  If so.. what might be used to do it?
[05:02] <zcat[1]> CVirus:  Also file a bug or feature request, perhaps we can have the ability to control that added to 10.04
[05:02] <seanp8088> CVirus: << http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13692
[05:02] <Screamo_Smurf> !fstab
[05:03] <seanp8088> CVirus: it won't completely prevent it if they know how to use mount, but you could lock that down too
[05:03] <robb> !envyng
[05:03] <robb> newer :(
[05:03] <glick> excuse me, what does it mean when you do an 'ls' and you see a folder that is highlighted in green?
[05:03] <CVirus> seanp8088: gnome-volume-manager is no longer in 9.04
[05:03] <robb> !ls
[05:03] <syrius> I have this enabled in my smb.conf file to use cdrom on  my vista machine I am able to access it but I can't burn to it http://pastebin.ca/raw/1762480 how do I do this I tried network map the drive that didn't work either
[05:03] <MrUnix> glick, green is executable
[05:03] <syrius> :/
[05:03] <gasull> Can anybody tell me how to get apt links working in Firefox?  Thanks
[05:04] <glick> ahh
[05:04] <glick> thanks MrUnix
[05:04] <MrUnix> glick, Each color means something. Blue is a directory, pink/magenta is a symlink, for example. And no worries.
[05:04] <glick> MrUnix, even though its a directory
[05:04] <glick> MrUnix, its a directory
[05:04] <MrUnix> glick, Is it? Hmmm I'm in Fedora right now and green here is an exec. My bad.
[05:04] <seanp8088> CVirus: maybe this? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/
[05:05] <hiexpo> is anybody else having probs logging in here tonight ?
[05:05] <mneptok> glick: directories need to executable bit set in order to be opened.
[05:05] <zcat[1]> syrius:  is it possible to burn to a shared CDROM between two windows machines?!!
[05:05] <glick> its a directory with all perms
[05:05] <zomfgcrazy> I see fstab is used to manage partitions, but can it create an image of one (from one)?
[05:05] <glick> mneptok, but other directories with x bit set arnt highlithgted
[05:05] <CVirus> seanp8088: I don't want do that because the superuser needs access to usb
[05:05] <CVirus> seanp8088: I want to prevent normal users only
[05:05] <MrUnix> glick, then maybe the run perm overwrites it's standard blue color? I'm not sure bud.
[05:05] <mneptok> glick: are they 777 like the directory you're talking about?
[05:06] <glick> no mneptok
[05:06] <seanp8088> CVirus: you could blacklist the module then modprobe it when you need it
[05:06] <seanp8088> CVirus: http://www.ossramblings.com/disabling_usb_storage_in_linux like this <<
[05:06] <mneptok> glick: that's probably the reason
[05:06] <glick> ah
[05:07] <CVirus> seanp8088: actually I don't want to prevent users from accessing usb drives .. I'm allowing them to mount them but in read-only mode using a script I wrote that they have to invoke
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> glick: try the following command on it and tell us what you get --> file <greenthing>
[05:07] <MrUnix> file = awesome command
[05:07] <CVirus> seanp8088: so i can't remove the usb module
[05:07] <syrius> I think so zcat[1]
[05:07] <zomfgcrazy> Can the tutorial on this page be used to successfully and safely backup a Windows XP partition? (-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 <-)
[05:07] <syrius> but how do I do it?
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> MrUnix: :-)
[05:08] <glick> onetinsoldier, it says its a directory
[05:08] <voidmage> okay i'm really confused
[05:08] <onetinsoldier> glick: understood
[05:08] <voidmage> steam keeps crashing in wine without dumping an error message anywhere
[05:08] <CVirus> seanp8088: more ideas ?
[05:08] <glick> hmm its no big deal
[05:08] <glick> i was just curious why it was green highlighted
[05:09] <seanp8088> CVirus: i'm not sure how to specifically lock down nautalis without implementing your own form of UAC by recompiling it :)
[05:09] <Avenegra> i been using conky and it seems the most perfect monitor ever, but just read that there are also rainmeter, samurize & geektool. Anyone has used them? are they better than conky?
[05:09] <CVirus> seanp8088: I don't think it's related to nautilus .. it is related to udev i guess
[05:10] <zomfgcrazy> i've used samurize. i wasn't a huge fan, but i will admit i didn't take the time to learn all of the ins and outs.
[05:10] <voidmage> does anyone have any ideas about my steam problem, or is there a better channel to ask in?
[05:10] <MrUnix> Oh, it's green highlighted?
[05:10] <MrUnix> I thought you meant the text was green. My bad. Green highlight means something else.
[05:10] <seanp8088> Avenegra: if you've already found the most perfect monitor ever, why would you want to switch?  Conky is pretty damn configurable
[05:10] <echo3> zom: That would proably work with
[05:11] <seanp8088> Avenegra: i've been meaning to write an alert thingy for it in LUA
[05:11] <Avenegra> zomfgcrazy: conky kicks till the end, but i was just curious
[05:11] <zcat[1]> syrius:  I would share a writable directory, then have a small script that takes the contents of that directory and burns it to CD either by checking for a flag file (eg a cron job that looks for a file called 'burn_now') or by sshing to the server machine
[05:11] <Avenegra> i know, it's amazing and plus a joy to play with the config
[05:11] <Avenegra> but.. as said i just wanted to hear from the others
[05:12] <syrius> :/
[05:12] <robb> nvidia-glx-XXX only goes back to 96 on karmic, and the geforce2 ti needs nvidia-glx-71
[05:12] <seanp8088> Avenegra: i thought rainmeter was windows-only and geektool was mac-only
[05:13] <robb> but i think 71 is uncompilable? on 9.10
[05:13] <zcat[1]> syrius:  there may be some samba tool I'm not aware of, but to do this would be only a few lines of bash script and a one line entry in crontab.
[05:14] <seanp8088> robb: did you already try nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[05:14] <Avenegra> dunno, that would left me with samurize. i'll check it's page (i doubt i'll find better though =)
[05:14] <zcat[1]> [ -e /shared_cd/burn_now ] && mkisofs {options} && isoburner {options} && rm /shared_cd/*
[05:15] <Avenegra> thanks!
[05:15] <zcat[1]> I think you could do it with one line in crontab even
[05:16] <needhelp1> does anyone here use something other than nm applet
[05:17] <seanp8088> time to play left4dead2 :)
[05:17] <robb> seanp8088: :) yes
[05:17] <ardchoille> zcat[1]: might want to add a md5sum command so burn_now doesn't get removed if the burn is bad
[05:17] <needhelp1> nm-applet wont work for me, wireless conn works fine in windows.. ubuntus nmapplet wont work
[05:18] <seanp8088> robb: might want to check this out too, it's old :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[05:18] <voidmage> well, new question
[05:18] <seanp8088> robb: here is what i searched for, seems other links might be useful: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=quY&q=ubuntu+two+different+video+cards&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=
[05:18] <voidmage> does anyone know how to uninstall ie6 in wine? i installed it by accident
[05:19] <MrUnix> !ask | voidmage
[05:19] <MrUnix> voidmage, How did you install it by accident? Come clean man
[05:19] <voidmage> okay fine
[05:19] <voidmage> i was trying to get star trek working and it said to run winetricks ie6
[05:19] <jack5463> what is ubuntu dolphin
[05:19] <robb> yep, read it :)
[05:19] <needhelp1> does anyone use something besides nm applet?
[05:19] <voidmage> MrUnix: and now things that need gecko are running ie6 and crashing after a few seconds
[05:19] <MrUnix> Dolphin is a windows manager found in KDE.
[05:19] <needhelp1> i cant get nm applet to work right.. looking for replacements
[05:20] <seanp8088> needhelp1: use somehing besides... for what?
[05:20] <kinja-sheep> MrUnix: He tripped over something and installed it.
[05:20] <needhelp1> network connections... i cant get wireless connections to work in ubuntu with nm applet
[05:20] <needhelp1> networkmanager applet
[05:20] <voidmage> that too, i don't know what i was thinking
[05:20] <voidmage> :P
[05:20] <MrUnix> kinja-sheep, voidmage lol
[05:20] <MrUnix> Well, since you tainted it with Microsoft stuff I'mma be honest.
[05:20] <MrUnix> You have to kill it.
[05:20] <MrUnix> With fire
[05:21] <infid> when i 'ssh -X me@mypc' it lets me in but running (nautilus, xclock, etc) says: 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong auth'. if i echo $DISPLAY it says 'localhost:10.0' like it hsould though. any ideas? I'm using public keys with passwordauthentication no and xauth says 'using auth file /var/run/gdm/auth-for/infid-vfw80x/database'
[05:21] <seanp8088> needhelp1: <<< http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html
[05:22] <seanp8088> needhelp1: here is a guide for 9.10: http://forceflow.ulyssis.be/2009/09/26/wicd-an-alternative-network-manager/ (really easy, just apt-get install wicd and it'll remove nm applet)
[05:23] <seanp8088> needhelp1: i replaced network-manager with WICD because of my wifi disconnecting even with "compatible" madwifi patched drivers
[05:23] <seanp8088> needhelp1: wicd isn't perfect, it has some bugs, but it's better than network-manager if you're having trouble
[05:24] <needhelp1> yeah, IMO this is a widely known issue with ubuntu
[05:24] <seanp8088> needhelp1: yep :) i fix it all the time for friends
[05:25] <needhelp1> you would think gnome would fix this.. or ubuntu would change the default network manager
[05:26] <econdude> Howdy!
[05:26] <MauritianGuy> hello i am back
[05:26] <MauritianGuy> hey coz_ u der
[05:27] <MauritianGuy> i need some help installing a driver
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> it seems that i cannot access any directory beyond Home with my current user or root access
[05:28] <myk_robinson> any Banshee users here? Tried it this evening, and it will consistently use 100% of one of my cores. I can disable all plugins, and it still does it. Does this happen for you as well? Using Rhythmbox with a bunch of plugins doesnt exhibit this behavior
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> somehow i keep getting error no such file or directory
[05:28] <MauritianGuy> it might be my syntax though i am quite new at the basic linux command syntax
[05:29] <Mr_Queue> blah... oh it's easy... yeah a+b = c
[05:29] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.53
[05:30] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall the current nvidia driver to install the current beta 190.53
[05:30] <MauritianGuy> sorry for repeating
[05:31] <MauritianGuy> so i did the get update and the dist-upgrade and the reboot and the uninstall of the previous driver but i got stuck in accessing the directory where the new driver is located
[05:31] <MauritianGuy> any suggestion?
[05:33] <Akuma> hello, I need some advice regarding computer law
[05:33] <MauritianGuy> computer law
[05:33] <Akuma> yea
[05:33] <MauritianGuy> regarding what exactly its sounds interesting
[05:33] <robb> computer law
[05:33] <Akuma> not sure where else to ask, but ubuntu people seems are usually a knowledgeable bunch
[05:34] <MauritianGuy> i can search a bit if i dont know
[05:34] <MrUnix> Akuma, just spit it out. We'll do our best.
[05:34] <Flannel> Akuma: that's offtopic for this channel.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic (but thats not exactly proper legal counsel either)
[05:34] <MrUnix> *grabs his pipe and a whiskey* This is gonna be cool.
[05:34] <MauritianGuy> lol MrUnix
[05:34] <Akuma> my problem is the following, I have created a website for somebody, the files are located in a remote server for which I am not registered
[05:35] <Akuma> the files however do belong to me given that the person in question has not paid me for my work
[05:35] <Akuma> now, I still have access to my files
[05:35] <Flannel> Akuma: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here (This is ubuntu support only) thanks
[05:35] <Akuma> would it be considered an offense to actually delete the stuff that I own on that webserver
[05:35] <Akuma> ok Flannel, sorry
[05:35] <Akuma> I'll swap
[05:36] <robb> and read the fine print of your contract :)
[05:36] <Akuma> no contract
[05:36] <iflema> Akuma yep... whats the contract
[05:36] <MauritianGuy> depends on where the remote server is located if there are legal laws in the country where the server is located if not u still cant do anything from where u are regardless as u dont have any access to the remote server
[05:36] <iflema> Akuma hmmmm
[05:36] <Akuma> it's located in canada, however I've tagged my websites with md5 lines
[05:37] <Akuma> which I do as a precaution
[05:37] <robb> canada recognizes ownership until payment
[05:37] <MauritianGuy> i think i am right
[05:37] <ardchoille> Flannel has stated that this is OT for this channel folks
[05:37] <Akuma> ok I'll continue this on the other one
[05:37] <Akuma> sorry about that
[05:37] <MrUnix> As it's your intellectual property you may do with it as you wish.
[05:37] <MrUnix> And this is ot
[05:38] <MrUnix> !ot | MrUnix
[05:38] <MrUnix> Ah damn!
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> its beyond me realy i only know that the server is protected by the law in which the country its located
[05:38] <Flannel> MauritianGuy, robb, iflema, MrUnix: Join #ubuntu-offtopic and provide insight there, thanks.
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> thanks Flannel
[05:38] <Salva1> Hello.
[05:38] <justin_> Hi, I have trouble with my ati graphics card FirePro V3750
[05:38] <justin_> join #ati
[05:38] <MauritianGuy> but can anyone help me with installing an Nvidia driver
[05:39] <MauritianGuy> on Ubuntu
[05:39] <ardchoille> !nvidia| MauritianGuy
[05:39] <Salva1> Does anyone know why my Nautilus bookmarks get deleted frequently.
[05:39] <robb> :)
[05:39] <Salva1> ?
[05:39] <robb> oh, ubuntu, why such pain with video cards
[05:39] <myk_robinson> nvm.. updated Banshee to the version in PPA, and it works fine. More normal CPU usage, single digits
[05:39] <zenlunatic> zomfgcrazy: did you figure out the windows image thing
[05:39] <robb> i guess it's all linux's
[05:39] <robb> GPL thing
[05:39] <Salva1> This time I ran into almost 0 KB left in one partition.
[05:39] <ardchoille> Salva1: nautilus bookmarks are contained in ~/.gtk-bookmarks is something deleting that file?
[05:40] <Salva1> It is very annoying, really.
[05:40] <robb> security settings?
[05:40] <ardchoille> MauritianGuy: which nvisia card do you have?
[05:40] <robb> something like "clear history on close"
[05:41] <MauritianGuy> i got one that is ridicously too much for my use but i still want to get it to work its an XFX 9800GT
[05:41] <MauritianGuy> i am trying to install 190.53
[05:41] <ardchoille> MauritianGuy: the Hardware Drivers tool should help you with that
[05:41] <Salva1> It was working OK in the past 3 or so months.
[05:42] <MauritianGuy> i already uninstall driver 173 and 153 as they are not compatible ardchoille
[05:42] <Salva1> But this time I got almost 0KB left in one partition and all the bookmarks are gone.
[05:42] <Salva1> I fear if some other things are gone too.
[05:42] <MauritianGuy> coz_` gave me some instructions couple of minutes ago
[05:43] <MauritianGuy> but i got to the part where i have to use the commant letc/init.d/gdm and i got an error no such fine or directory
[05:43] <robb> oh it's there
[05:43] <myk_robinson> for anyone who care, actually it seems the high cpu usage in Banshe is directly linked to BPM detection. Turn that off, problem disappears. I was able to duplicate it even after the update
[05:43] <robb> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:43] <ardchoille> robb: I don't think that works on Karmic
[05:44] <robb> ardchoille: it did on mine...
[05:44] <robb> tty7 shut down :)
[05:44] <robb> but also i have a messed up configuration
[05:45] <ardchoille> Well, I also could be wrong
[05:47] <d4n1> sup guys, how can i get man pages on fork and other system functions?
[05:47] <Salva1> For what is the Gnome virtual filesystem?
[05:48] <MrUnix> d4n1, I dislike you and your generalized casual greeting toward me.
[05:48] <MrUnix> =P
[05:48] <Flannel> MrUnix: Excuse me?
[05:48] <robb> 'the foreign one'
[05:49] <Bwaah> MrUnix: I like you and your snarky greeting to the newcomer
[05:49] <MrUnix> Flannel, You're exused sir.
[05:49] <MrUnix> Bwaah, thank you sir. And now back to the topic at hand. (whatever that may be)
[05:49] <d4n1> what is wrong MrUnix
[05:49] <ardchoille> MrUnix: Careful
[05:49] <MrUnix> d4n1, Nothing. Just a bit of ribbing towards the newcomer.
[05:49] <d4n1> lol Bwaah
[05:50] <d4n1> lol
[05:50] <firestrider> is intels gfx driver any good in terms of video hardware acceleration
[05:50] <Salva1> I am getting annoyed of losing user directory data,
[05:50] <d4n1> well, i don't know what to say really, but i need man pages on fork, wait, execl
[05:50] <d4n1> etc
[05:50] <robb> firestrider: the hardware behind it is generally crud, for acceleration
[05:51] <Salva1> It makes me want to switch to Windows.
[05:51] <MrUnix> Salva1, What're you losing?
[05:51] <robb> Salva1: stop filling your partitions then
[05:51] <robb> same problem will happen on any OS
[05:51] <d4n1> don't switch salval
[05:51] <Salva1> The .gtk-bookmarks file contents this time.
[05:52] <Salva1> I lost Firefox sessions, compiz configurations (I had lost of them).
[05:52] <Salva1> In the past.
[05:52] <MrUnix> Hmmmm
[05:52] <ardchoille> Salva1: are you running a script thatcleans the systemor something?
[05:52] <Salva1> But If I fill one, It should not do that, Robb.
[05:52] <dreki> when i installed ubuntu i checked the encrypt myhome directory thing, how secure is that encryption?
[05:53] <robb> dreki: as secure as your passphrase and encryption level
[05:53] <Salva1> I do not know, Archoille.
[05:54] <Salva1> I did not make one, for sure.
[05:54] <d4n1> well guys, what do i need to have man pages on fork, ppid, execl, wait
[05:55] <bikcmp> Hello all, I'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook
[05:55] <MrUnix> What's the command to execute a file.run?
[05:55] <bikcmp> I tried it a few times
[05:55] <bikcmp> MrUnix: ./FILE
[05:55] <bikcmp> but I can't get it to launch
[05:55] <MrUnix> bikcmp, thanks
[05:55] <bikcmp> MrUnix: make sure it's chmodded
[05:56] <zenlunatic> bikcmp: assuming its marked executable
[05:56] <MrUnix> bikcmp, I did and I used ./file as well. Hmmmm
[05:56] <bikcmp> maybe zipped
[05:56] <MrUnix> I'ma working on it
[05:56] <bikcmp> or tared
[05:56] <MrUnix> Nah, it's a raw file. No wrappings or compression.
[05:56] <bikcmp> I'm trying to install ubuntu to my netbook
[05:56] <mediaprodigy> Does anyone have the issue where if your computer goes into sleep mode it does not want to wake up.. and it forces you to reboot?
[05:56] <MrUnix> bikcmp, what's the issue exactly?
[05:56] <bikcmp> So I install it with wubi
[05:56] <bikcmp> and when I reboot it just goes to a busybox screen
[05:56] <MrUnix> *facepalm* Wubi. Not my area of expertise. Sorry
[05:56] <bikcmp> or a shell
[05:56] <bikcmp> :/
[05:57] <bikcmp> HP mini 110
[05:57] <dreki> robb, how can i check/change the encryption type?
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> So the articles about Firefox 3.6 being difficult to install on Linux (specifically Ubuntu) inspired me to try installing it (but failed with the PPA version, from tarball I can get it working) anyone get Firefox 3.6 from the Mozilla PPA working TODAY?  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/361066/ for much more details
[05:57] <zenlunatic> media`: yeah that can be a case on some laptops for instance
[05:57] <mediaprodigy> happens on my desktop machine.. sucks
[05:57] <zenlunatic> mediaprodigy: ^
[05:57] <Blue1> mediaprodigy: yup - that's why I never use sleep mode.....doesn't work in windoze either
[05:58] <zenlunatic> my ibook used to do that
[05:58] <mediaprodigy> zenlunatic: i read this is easily fixable by making it never go to sleep
[05:58] <bikcmp> know why mine just goes to busybox?
[05:58] <d4n1>  fork, system, execl, getpid, getppid, wait, waitpid,  perror and exit. <-- i need their man entries, how can i get them?
[05:59] <Blue1> d4n1: those are system processes
[05:59] <Blue1> d4n1: except for excel
[05:59] <robb> MrUnix: sh blah.run
[06:00] <d4n1> yes they are Blue1, but they have man entries
[06:00] <robb> at least for the nvidia binaries....
[06:00] <d4n1> and i need to lean to use those functions
[06:00] <d4n1> but i am clueless
[06:00] <MrUnix> robb, for some reason it had to be run as sudo.
[06:00] <Salva1> Is there some program in Ubuntu that deletes things when is running aout of space?
[06:00] <Blue1> d4n1: maybe you're using a different version of ubuntu - but mine does NOT have those
[06:00] <Salva1> *Out.
[06:01] <Salva1> By default.
[06:01] <d4n1> Blue1: exaclty, mine doesnt either
[06:01] <d4n1> but my school did
[06:01] <d4n1> and i think i need to include manpages-dev
[06:01] <d4n1> wait...
[06:01] <Blue1> d4n1: and I wouldn't expect they would those are kernel specific
[06:02] <d4n1> Blue1: apparently, try it, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev, they are there
[06:02] <d4n1> now to learn to use them
[06:02] <Blue1> d4n1: that make sense....
[06:02] <Salva1> Can anyone tell me what the Gnome virtual filesystem does?
[06:02] <d4n1> just finished getting their man entries
[06:03] <Salva1> *Do.
[06:04] <d4n1> salval: actualy it was does
[06:04] <d4n1> yes Blue1
[06:04] <d4n1> now i need to learn to use them :(
[06:05] <Salva1> OK:
[06:05] <Salva1> .
[06:05] <Blue1> d4n1: I don't do kernel development - sorry I can't help -- now mvs - that's a different story - that and RSX I do know the internals
[06:06] <Blue1> d4n1: fork was born in RSX land
[06:06] <mediaprodigy> ubuntu musicians channel link anyone..
[06:07] <d4n1> Blue1, what does that mean?
[06:07] <Blue1> d4n1: to fork a process is to send it from kernel process status, to a non-priveleged state to continue processing
[06:08] <Marupa> Hey there, everyone.  I'm looking to install ubuntu on a 64b box that already has windows7 installed on it.  I've got a raid 0+1 setup (software) which linux sees as the four individual drives it is.  If I were to install using the wubi method, would linux be raided on all four drives?
[06:08] <Blue1> d4n1: i.e. nmi vs mi (non-maskable interrupts vs maskable interrupts)
[06:09] <d4n1> Blue1: im lost, im kind of a beginer :(, but you know your stuff
[06:10] <Blue1> d4n1: yes, but you don't need to know how a car engine works, to drive a car - neither do you need to know the internals of linux to use it.
[06:10] <Blue1> hell I used windows for years -
[06:11] <Random832> Blue1; um, that's not what fork means in unix at all
[06:11] <ziroday> Marupa: unfortunately, no
[06:11] <Random832> fork in unix is derived from the idea of a 'fork in the road' - there was one process and now there are two identical processes
[06:12] <Blue1> Random832: what does it mean in unix?  that's what it did in rsx anyway
[06:12] <d4n1> Blue1: you are absolutely right. But you need to learn to drive it before you hop in the drives seat
[06:12] <theadmin> Hello. Is it possible to make Ubuntu download a specified file every n hours?
[06:12] <ziroday> theadmin: cron and wget
[06:12] <d4n1> Blue1: im still at learning
[06:12] <robb> theadmin: cron
[06:12] <Blue1> theadmin: cron
[06:12] <QPrime> d4n1: the skill sets in this channel are wide, but most of us are beginners or power users... the same general skill sets as with any OS.
[06:12] <theadmin> bleh, cron. Gotta learn this stuff
[06:12] <Marupa> Dang.  Is there any way to resize partitions of a raided drive in linux, then?
[06:12] <Random832> Blue1; you call the function from your process and now there are two of the process
[06:12] <ardchoille> theadmin: I wrote a cron tutorial, hold on..
[06:12] <Blue1> theadmin: man cron - -I think I've an example somewhere
[06:13] <QPrime> d4n1: the nice thing with FLOSS is that you get the tools to move from beginner to developer... right out of the box
[06:13] <ardchoille> theadmin: my cron tutorial: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html
[06:13] <Blue1> Random832: true but the distinction was when the process was forked, it became a maskable interrupt
[06:13] <d4n1> QPrime: what is FLOSS
[06:13] <theadmin> ardchoille: Thanks a lot, reading now
[06:14] <brishu> hi folks, i have a question about an app, the alarm-clock to be more precise, whenever i open that guy up, i see a message saying that "my old alarm list is not empty",  now i dont see any menu entries (on the Global menu applet), not do i see any options in there to clear it, is there something i am missing?
[06:14] <Blue1> thanks ardchoille I will add a link on pkill-9
[06:14] <QPrime> d4n1: Free (Libre) Open Source Software  Free (as in beer), Libre (as in freedom)
[06:15] <d4n1> QPrime, i wish there was free beer ^_^
[06:15] <Random832> how is a process an interrupt?
[06:15] <Blue1> d4
[06:15] <Blue1> d4n1: or free donuts!
[06:15] <Karhu> hi..would someone be able to tell me the difference between "full upgrade" and "version upgrade" in adept manager please
[06:15] <QPrime> d4n1: *grin* well bits 'n bytes are the next best thing...
[06:15] <d4n1> Blue1: u just made me hungry
[06:15] <d4n1> QPrime: ^_^
[06:16] <Marupa> Anyone know if it's possible to assemble a raid in linux and resize the partition?
[06:16] <Blue1> Random832: i/o -- parts of it MUST be completed before continuing - starting a device - but once the device is started, then it can be forked to a maskable interrupt to wait for completion
[06:16] <aarcane> how do I prevent update-grub from generating an entry for a specific operating system or partition ?
[06:16] <Random832> yeah, that's not what the term 'fork' refers to at all in unix - it doesn't refer to devices at all, it's for programs
[06:17] <Blue1> Random832: okay I stand corrected.
[06:17] <Random832> you're thinking of the return from the kernel to user code - that's not called fork
[06:17] <Random832> in unix
[06:17] <theadmin> ardchoille: Does this look right?
[06:17] <theadmin> 0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:17] <theadmin> Oops
[06:17] <theadmin> Damn enter message breaking :/
[06:18] <theadmin> ardchoille: Does this look right? 0 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:18] <ardchoille> 00 * * * * wget whatismyip.org ~/Sharedfolder/Home-IP.txt
[06:19] <ardchoille> theadmin: ^^
[06:19] <theadmin> ardchoille: Oops. Thanks
[06:19] <ardchoille> theadmin: that will execute the command at the top of every hour
[06:19] <theadmin> ardchoille: Yeah, just what I want :D
[06:20] <ardchoille> theadmin: ok
[06:20] <Billiard> theadmin: im not positive but i thought wget needs the -O option to specify filename
[06:20] <theadmin> Billiard: Uh... Huh? *checks man pages*
[06:21] <theadmin> Billiard: Ah, that's right
[06:21] <ardchoille> theadmin: wait, you need a cd in there
[06:21] <UK-DO> Hello guys I need a little brush up bout Ububtu/Kubuntu Which filesystem is best for K/Ubuntu 9,10
[06:22] <theadmin> UK-DO: Depends on your system and what you like
[06:22] <Blue1> UK-DO: depends on what you are doing - but ext4 is the default
[06:22] <Billiard> UK-DO: you probably want ext3/4
[06:22] <ardchoille> theadmin: that page will get saved as index.html:  00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org
[06:22] <UK-DO> I'm avg user and absolute newbie to linux
[06:23] <Blue1> UK-DO: take the default - ext4 then
[06:23] <baddog> The default will probably suffice
[06:23] <UK-DO> ok
[06:24] <theadmin> ardchoille: Okay, here is the full command I have: 00 * * * * cd ~/Sharedfolder/ && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt
[06:24] <Billiard> theadmin: why not just use -O
[06:24]  * Blue1 wishes there was a reiserfs to ext4 converter - but there isn't 
[06:24] <UK-DO> And I forgot all that swapspace home dir etc too I don't wish to creat any seperate partition for that I will be using single 19 GB partition for all that stuff  is that gonna be ok ?
[06:24] <ardchoille> theadmin: I was just about to show you how to add a mv command :)
[06:24] <owen1> what's the name of this game - multiplayer creatures, that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[06:24] <theadmin> Billiard: %) this will also do I guess... Whatever
[06:24] <Blue1> UK-DO: I run linux on an 8 g flash drive- you'd be fine
[06:25] <Billiard> theadmin: idk if it can be done in one command idk why you would want to do it in 3
[06:25] <Blue1> but I use a different filesystem
[06:25] <ardchoille> theadmin: changing the file extension isn't going to remove the html code from the downloaded page though
[06:25] <Billiard> ardchoille: i dont think that page has any html
[06:25] <theadmin> ardchoille: I know, but whatismyip.org is just plain-texted current computer IP
[06:26] <Marupa> theadmin: not only the IP though.
[06:26] <ardchoille> Billiard: Ah, you're right, it doesn't. I just assumed due to the file extension .html
[06:26] <ezrafree> any ideas what might be happening here: i had slackware installed and then i installed ubuntu to another partition and everything is working great except each time i boot up into one or the other my time is reset somehow. some kind of an mbr issue or something? any ideas
[06:26] <Blue1> theadmin: why are you trying to get your ip addy every hour?
[06:26] <theadmin> Marupa: Huh?
[06:27] <Blue1> ezrafree: ru by chance using the same gui in each os?
[06:27] <Marupa> theadmin: Nevermind, was thinking .com, which gives you lots of other crap.
[06:27] <ezrafree> yes i am, gnome
[06:27] <ezrafree> you mean my wm, right?
[06:27] <UK-DO> I tried Kubuntu 9.10 with live CD but could not make network adpters work I have 2 ethernet adpaters 1 is being used other one is unpluged I tried to configure but no luck and I have some PPP network which is needed to start my broadband so am I going to have probs ?
[06:27] <theadmin> ardchoille: Well, there is something wrong there. 00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org && mv index.html home-ip.txt looks better.
[06:27] <Blue1> ezrafree: ahh the could be an issue - if they both point to the same home directory then the conf files over write each other - I use gnome in one and kde or something else in the other
[06:27] <ezrafree> Blue1: except they are each installed on completely different partitions, so / for slackware is on say /dev/sda1 while ubuntu's / is on /dev/sda3
[06:28] <Marupa> theadmin, wouldn't it be better to put all that as it's own script and then point cron to the script?
[06:28] <ezrafree> they do share a swap on /dev/sda2 though, could that be the issue?
[06:28] <Blue1> ezrafree: I ran into that problem because /home was on a seperate drive - so I used it for both os
[06:28] <ardchoille> theadmin: yeah, if you don't rm it wget will keep adding files with (1), (2), etc
[06:28] <theadmin> ardchoille: Also, what the heck is with this weird filename? /tmp/crontab.H39H3K/crontab? And what is one line doing there? some python script.
[06:28] <DexterLB> hi
[06:29] <DexterLB> I'm on a fresh install (karmic) on a new PC
[06:29] <owen1> what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[06:29] <ezrafree> Blue1: ahh gotcha yeah that shouldn't be an issue for me then. this seems more a mbr issue or something... slackware was (is?) using lilo.. while ubuntu uses grub. could that be causing it somehow?
[06:29] <DexterLB> I installed compiz and it works (starting it with compiz --replace). Now how do I make it run as gnome default?
[06:29] <ezrafree> isn't the time saved between boots in the cpu somehow?
[06:29] <ardchoille> theadmin: hmm.. no idea
[06:29] <ardchoille> doesn't happen here
[06:29] <Blue1> ezrafree: I don't know - I use grub in both ubuntu and suse
[06:29] <ezrafree> DexterLB: have you also installed "fusion-icon"
[06:30] <Marupa> can anyone tell me if it's possible to resize a bios-created raid partition?
[06:30] <Billiard> theadmin: i beleive it has you modify a temporary file, and applies the proper locks when it saves the real crontab
[06:30] <theadmin> Billiard: Ah, I see
[06:30] <ezrafree> DexterLB: if not, install fusion-icon and then set that as a start-up item in gnome
[06:30] <Blue1> Billiard: sounds right
[06:30] <UK-DO> ethernet adpter just wont get configured by DHCP and finding modem from that list is also kinda tricky which one should I choose for PPPoE and dial and update my installtion
[06:30] <ezrafree> Blue1: np, i'll check with the slackware folks
[06:31] <soreau> DexterLB: To make it the default, open gnome-appearance-properties (System > Preferences > Appearance) and set the radio button to anything other than None in the Visual Effects tab.
[06:31] <ardchoille> theadmin: Got a better command, hold on
[06:31] <ezrafree> maybe they have some ideas, appreciate the help though
[06:31] <Blue1> ezrafree: sorry
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: yeah I had that in mind
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: but it will erase my compiz settings
[06:31] <ardchoille> theadmin:  00 * * * * cd ~/Dropbox/ && rm -rf home-ip.txt && wget whatismyip.org -O /path/home-ip.txt
[06:31] <DexterLB> soreau: I'll first export them to a file
[06:32] <Billiard> ardchoille: you dont need to rm, wget will overwrite
[06:32] <ardchoille> theadmin: of course, change the /path bit
[06:32] <ardchoille> Billiard: Ah, nice to know
[06:32] <Billiard> ardchoille: you dont need to cd either, just specify the whole path
[06:32] <tolpico> Trying to install Hardy Heron 8.04 Server on Virtual box. Assigned 512 MB RAM, 5GB fixed space. Trying to install gives "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" error. Any ideas what is the problem?
[06:32] <theadmin> ardchoille: %) what's wrong with previous one? Already quit nano :D
[06:32] <ardchoille> theadmin: Nothing really, just trying to get the line as small as possibl, yours will work fine
[06:32] <DexterLB> brb
[06:33] <ardchoille> Billiard: Thanks for the tips :)
[06:33] <Billiard> ardchoille: np
[06:35] <ardchoille> I love this channel, learn something new everday
[06:37] <UK-DO> I have 64 Bit CPU but I'm to install x86 do you think I should download 64 bit K/Ubuntu and is 64 bit OS gonna decrease the # of available apps ?
[06:37] <bazhang> UK-DO, no
[06:38] <theadmin> UK-DO: Normal apps are compiled for both x86 and x64, altough it was a pain to get flash working on x64 someday
[06:38] <Marupa> Wow, would have thought my question was an easy one.
[06:38] <theadmin> ardchoille: ...Okay... now how do I check whether this crontab really works? Is there some "run now"?
[06:39] <theadmin> ardchoille: Also, I don't get it, is crontab one file, or can there be many?
[06:39] <UK-DO> hmm I m still worried bout compatiblity of 64 bit 1st I ll try to make my damn PPP broadband
[06:39] <UK-DO> -work*
[06:39] <ardchoille> theadmin: there is one crontab file for each user, but no limit on how many lines/commands you can have
[06:40] <Blue1> UK-DO: I've no issues with 64 bit (yet)
[06:40] <ardchoille> theadmin: you can always set the time to a minute from now and see if it works
[06:40] <theadmin> ardchoille: Okay, I'll just paste that command and see what it does for me
[06:41] <ardchoille> theadmin: sometimes the terminal handles things differently than cron, you should really set the time amminute ahead and check it that way
[06:41] <theadmin> ardchoille: A minute ahead? %)
[06:41] <theadmin> ardchoille: But it's 9:39 now, it runs every hour
[06:41] <ardchoille> yes, if your time is 22:40, set it to 22:41 and see if it runs
[06:42] <ardchoille> theadmin: 41 21 * * * command
[06:42] <theadmin> Okay... let me try that stuff... oh wait, no can do.
[06:42] <theadmin> My time is kinda synced from servers
[06:42] <Blue1> okay good night folks --
[06:43] <Plimmer> I have a samba share where I want to download files to from my server (share and server is the same thing). I want everyone on the network to be able to save/delete/move/write files to this share. However I cant get my default user to have acces to write to this share.
[06:43] <ardchoille> no, set the time in crontab
[06:43] <Billiard> theadmin: he wants you to change the crontab line
[06:43] <Plimmer> I did a chmod -R 777 /media/share
[06:43] <theadmin> Well, I'll just wait and see what happens after 20 minutes. I have time.
[06:43] <Plimmer> And still nothing.
[06:43] <ardchoille> Plimmer: you need sudo for that
[06:43] <UK-DO> Can someone be kind enough to tell me what the heck is /modem in PPP config app(Kubuntu) forums says use gnome app but how do use gnome app if there is no network
[06:43] <Plimmer> Oh yeah, it was with sudo
[06:43] <ardchoille> Plimmer: ah, ok
[06:44] <Plimmer> But my torrent client isint able to write to that dir.
[06:44] <Plimmer> And I have no idear why.
[06:44] <Marupa> can anyone answer my question about a software raid partition resize?
[06:44] <theadmin> 777, 610... those number-based permissions are confusing.
[06:44] <tolpico> What is the cause of kernel panic error on a brand new installation, virtual box. :--> http://i46.tinypic.com/be5udh.png
[06:44] <ardchoille> Plimmer: sudo chmod -R a+rw
[06:45] <Marupa> theadmin, not so much:  4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = execute.  4+2 = read/write, 4+2+1 = read/write/execute.
[06:45] <ardchoille> That will make it read/write for all users
[06:45] <theadmin> Marupa: 4+2 as in 6?
[06:45] <Marupa> theadmin, yep!
[06:45] <Plimmer> ardchoille: Still not able to.
[06:45] <Billiard> ardchoille: 777 should have already made it all rwx
[06:45] <drmrhorse> how do i keep usb sticks from automounting?
[06:45] <ardchoille> Billiard: yeah
[06:46] <ardchoille> Plimmer: weird
[06:46] <Plimmer> drwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 disk1
[06:46] <Billiard> Plimmer: ls -ld /media/share  shows it as 777?
[06:46] <xnixan> Hi, is there any good SWF player for linux?
[06:46] <theadmin> Can I remove this white Ubuntu logo on boot?
[06:46] <Billiard> xnixan: flashplayer?
[06:46] <Plimmer> drwxrwxrwx 4 esben esben 4096 2010-01-23 03:40 /media/disk1
[06:46] <Marupa> theadmin, and the xxx format is 'self' 'group' 'world'.  so 700 would give you full access but nobody else has access, 770 would be you full access, anyone in your usergroup full access, and nobody else has any access.
[06:46] <Plimmer> disk1 = share
[06:47] <ardchoille> Billiard: I dislike recursive octal settings because some people think it's ok to chmod -R 700 and then wonder why they can't acccess the dir (removed x bit for folders)
[06:47] <Billiard> ardchoille: i woudnt do it either, but he already did it, and it should be writable
[06:47] <ardchoille> yeah, good point
[06:47] <xnixan> Billiard, thanks, but i think i was not clear, i need a player with controllers for pausing, rewind, and forward!
[06:48] <robb> mplayer!
[06:48] <Billiard> xnixan: rewinding swf?
[06:48] <theadmin> xnixan: Hm, I think VLC plays this stuff... there is nothing so far it did not play for me :D
[06:48] <ardchoille> xnixan: xine plays .swf files
[06:48] <robb> oh, swf
[06:48] <UK-DO> Plz xplain bit bout this so I can get my damn broadband work for Kubuntu "Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter......"
[06:48] <xnixan> Billiard, yes!
[06:48] <ardchoille> xnixan: isn't that a bit like rewinding a dvd?
[06:48]  * ardchoille hides
[06:48] <robb> i think it supports flv
[06:48] <robb> is not quite the same tho?
[06:49] <xnixan> ardchoille, yup!
[06:49] <Billiard> Plimmer: your torrent client is on the same machine or trying to write through samba share?
[06:50] <Plimmer> Yes
[06:50] <theadmin> Anyway, any good download manager with support for HTTP AND torrents? I don't like running both gwget and transmission.
[06:50] <Billiard> Plimmer: wasnt a yes/no question
[06:50] <Plimmer> The share and torrent client is on the same machine
[06:51] <Billiard> Plimmer: ok, which torrent client? and it tells you doesnt have write permission? you sure you are saving to the correct directory?
[06:51] <Plimmer> rtorrent
[06:51] <Plimmer> God..
[06:51] <Plimmer> 2 secs
[06:52] <ardchoille> Billiard: "do you want a red one or a blue one".. "yes!" hehe
[06:52] <UK-DO> How do I do this Plz Plz clarify a bit >>>>"Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter."
[06:53] <UK-DO> How do I boot with any parameters
[06:53] <Plimmer> It wasent saving the right place.. Thats a couple of hours I'll never see again.
[06:54] <drmrhorse> how do i keep usb sticks from automounting?
[06:54] <theadmin> UK-DO: It seems like you need to press some key in installer... uhm... I don't know, which lets you modify the boot parameters, and just add modules=ppp-udeb at the end of line
[06:55] <Billiard> drmrhorse: gnome-volume-manager handles that i believe, so you could try disabling it maybe
[06:55] <UK-DO> theadmin: If I don't do that I wont be able to install and use my broadband it goes through PPP
[06:56] <UK-DO> Thats why I'm looking up on google too
[06:56] <drmrhorse> hmm ty
[06:57] <theadmin> UK-DO: I've no idea, there is this little gnome-ppp (or kppp) package for that... I configured my PPTP-VPN single-handely when installing the OS. Resolving dependencies manually was a mess, cause installing the packages with no internet is a pain in... well, basically everywhere
[06:57] <drmrhorse> Billiard: i dont see gnome-volume-manager anywhere
[06:58] <UK-DO> I decided to go with Kubuntu I tried live CD too but KPPP fails to start network
[06:58] <Billiard> drmrhorse: anywhere? where did you look
[06:58] <drmrhorse> gconf
[06:58] <Plazma> /awa
[06:58] <Billiard> drmrhorse: could try uninstalling it
[06:58] <drmrhorse> that doesnt seem wise
[06:59] <Billiard> drmrhorse: if there are problems just reinstall it
[06:59] <drmrhorse> right
[07:00] <Karhu> hi everyone...i have an nvidia tnt2 card installed running kubuntu 8.10...i have insalled the restricted nvidia driver for my card but for some reason everything still seems very sluggish eg. webpages seem laggy when i scroll through them and i was wondering if anyone here had any ideas as to why its like that
[07:00] <kaushal> hi
[07:00] <omologos> hi
[07:01] <kaushal> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/099 --> what does file(*) means ?
[07:01] <omologos> does anybody know why java isn't included in ubuntu?
[07:01] <darthanubis> omologos, because it is java
[07:01] <darthanubis> !java
[07:02] <Marupa> I've got a software(fake) raid set up that already has windows installed, how would I set it up so that linux can read this partition?
[07:02] <omologos> i've already installed java
[07:02] <darthanubis> !dmraid
[07:02] <omologos> i'm just curious why isn't it preinstalled if it's GPL
[07:02] <darthanubis> omologos, I did not ask you that
[07:03] <darthanubis> there are alot of GPL stuff not preisntalled
[07:03] <omologos> darthanubis: no, it was I who asked...
[07:03] <Marupa> darthanubis: apparently that didn't do anything?
[07:03] <omologos> yeah, but java is a very commonly needed thing
[07:03] <darthanubis> maybe you thought ubuntu was mint?
[07:03] <theadmin> ardchoille: My thank you, it worked very smooth, I didn't even notice anything.
[07:04] <theadmin> omologos: Yeah, and mp3 codecs too, yet you don't complain about them ;) not everybody needs it.
[07:04] <Billiard> omologos: probably because it is not needed by everyone and it is somewhat large, i dont use any java software
[07:04] <omologos> ah, ok
[07:05] <UK-DO> Ok thanks for the help I ll install the Kubuntu 1st worry bout broadband later :\
[07:07] <Karhu> noone can help with my graphics issues?
[07:07] <theadmin> Karhu: If nobody anwers, nobody knows... but what are the issues?
[07:08] <Karhu> im running an nvidia tnt2 card with kububuntu 8.10 with restricted drivers installed but everything still seems very sluggish graphically
[07:08] <Karhu> was just wondering if anyone had any ideas
[07:08] <Billiard> Karhu: are the drivers enabled?
[07:08] <theadmin> Karhu: sluggish? Like, is the image blurry or something?
[07:08] <Karhu> yeah they are enabled
[07:09] <Billiard> Karhu: how did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <Karhu> no sluggish like webpages etc seem to be laggy when they scroll
[07:09] <Karhu> through the hardware thingo
[07:09] <theadmin> Karhu: Maybe it's a memory issue?
[07:09] <Karhu> hardware drivers manager
[07:10] <thinkertinker> Hi there,The option for connecting Internet via blue-tooth doesn't seem to work in my Ubuntu9.10. NM ,Network-Manager Applet 0.7.996,Is this a known issue or am i wrong somewhere?
[07:10] <Karhu> hmm well i only have 512Mb RAM but it ran perfectly fine with windows xp
[07:10] <theadmin> Karhu: Ah... 512? Kubuntu was incredibly slow with that for me... you should try using GNOME over KDE, it works smoother
[07:10] <Karhu> i tried gnome and it was just the same :-(
[07:11] <theadmin> Karhu: Hm, then it's not the problem
[07:11] <daeo> got a question about installing 9.10 , it seems the installer is stuck on detecting my harddrives and setting up the partitioner how may I find out if there are any errors? im currently in the live cd run right now
[07:12] <Karhu> i have seen pc's run like this on windows when there were no drivers installed
[07:12] <theadmin> daeo: Have you checked whether the CD is burned and downloaded correctly?
[07:12] <Billiard> daeo: did you verify the cd burned correctly?
[07:12] <bazhang> daeo, did you md5 the iso before burning at a very low speed? do the disk integrity check as well?
[07:12] <daeo> it was ordered from the website i got it yesterday
[07:12] <daeo> so im sure the cd is good
[07:12] <cjae> !pictures
[07:12] <k0sh> will ubuntu autodetect properietary drivers and install them? i try to deploy system on many desktops via network-booting and want to know if such procedure autoexist in ubuntu
[07:12] <daeo> ok now i just got an error..
[07:12] <k0sh> ?
[07:13] <daeo> ubiquity.components.partman failed with exit code 141
[07:13] <daeo> checking /var/log/syslog
[07:13] <bazhang> daeo, getting the cd in the mail is not a guarantee the disk is good
[07:14] <daeo> well everything but this one part seems to be fine.. odd
[07:14] <daeo> checking the log file now..
[07:14] <Billiard> k0sh: some will show up under the hardware drivers section from the menu, such as nvidia video drivers
[07:15] <cjae> daeo: the disc has a check option upon booting it - not that thats the problem
[07:15] <theadmin> Well, k0sh, here we have this kinda thing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png didn't see anything like his on KDE.
[07:16] <daeo> right, ok so assuming is not the cd.. i was able to open the disk manager in the menus and saw all of my drives
[07:16] <daeo> so what might I check to find my issue? im not getting much from syslog
[07:16] <daeo> well rather i can't understand it
[07:16] <k0sh> theadmin: what im looking for is some automatic way to setup proper drivers, probably before x starts, since i want to have one nfsroot from which all desktops will use it
[07:17] <theadmin> k0sh: o_O I don't know how to set them up with no X, except for installing the packages manually
[07:17] <cjae> daeo: are trying to dual boot or do you have ms windows drives in the machine (ntfs)
[07:17] <Karhu> ok everybody thanks very much for your time maybe this load of updates im installing will help the issue :-)
[07:17] <MHz128> hi all
[07:17] <daeo> yes, when i was on 8.10 i would dual boot and am trying to install over it so yes very much so am i doing that
[07:17] <theadmin> Hi, MHz128
[07:18] <daeo> primay disc is win xp
[07:18] <daeo> 2nd is going to be my reinstall of ubuntu
[07:18] <MHz128> I am unable to browse the web while connecting to a WPA2 router, however, another WEP router works just fine. I keep getting 'unable to resolve host' ... any ideas?
[07:18] <k0sh> theadmin: thx i guess :)
[07:18] <theadmin> k0sh: No problem, altough I did not help >_<
[07:18] <MHz128> both connections are strong, and my native rtl8187 driver works great
[07:19] <cjae> daeo: I dont think the linux ntfs driver needs to have the ntfs drives in *good shape* as much as it did before but it is good habbit to make sure that they are
[07:19] <k0sh> theadmin: nah, you helped, at least i know more or less how it looks like :)
[07:19] <MHz128> Under Windows, I am able to connect to the WPA encrypted router... linux, not so much :p
[07:22] <daeo> ok might there be a way for me to skip the ntfs drive scanning? i'd like for it to see windows but not waste its time i suppose... and i'd rather not spend 3 hours waiting for windows to defrag
[07:23] <cjae> daeo: you could also try downloading and installing from an alternate install disc (these have tend to have more options) and make sure your bios settings are good
[07:24] <theadmin> Sigh, another disconnect :/
[07:24] <firestrider> hey does ubuntu do ram prefetching
[07:24] <cjae> daeo: I had a dual boot system the same for many release installs, and have run into problems with the live installer especially naming the drives incorrectly
[07:25] <abumaia> I'm a relatively new linux user, been mucking about with ubuntu for about 2 weeks now.  Do I need to be looking at any antivirus and firewall programs?
[07:25] <theadmin> cjae: Naming? /dev/sda1 is /dev/sda1, and that's all %)
[07:25] <daeo> hrm
[07:25] <theadmin> abumaia: No, Ubuntu is safe from viruses
[07:25] <theadmin> abumaia: Quite as any Linux system
[07:26] <abumaia> ok.. how about firewalls?
[07:26] <theadmin> abumaia: Depending on whether you want them or not :D
[07:26] <daeo> cjae: so im in a pickle here i'd rather _not_ have to download it thats why i ordered the cd... is there no other way?
[07:26] <cjae> daeo: eg. for 6.06 to 8,04 reinstalls windows = /dev/sda all of a sudden 8.10 windows =/dev/sdb and boot laoder was added to wrong mbr
[07:27] <cjae> daeo: just letting you know of my troubles with live installers
[07:27] <daeo> i see
[07:27] <firestrider> you know of any businesses that use linux clients
[07:27] <daeo> well i didn't actually pick the live install
[07:27] <daeo> when i started the install i did the regular install option not, let me see and try
[07:27] <daeo> so after it hung the first time i canceled the installer and it took me to the live run
[07:28] <theadmin> This "Install Ubuntu" on 9.04 CD did not work for me, black screen
[07:28] <theadmin> But all went fine from Live session ^_^
[07:29] <iceroot> firestrider: sure but that is offtopic
[07:29] <abumaia> my 9.10 install(s) went fine both Live and straight from the cd boot menu
[07:30] <firestrider> sigh I'm always off topic
[07:30] <daeo> ok so assuming its not the installer ... how else can i proceed?
[07:30] <Blue1> i have a cyberpower cp550sl ups - where can I find software for it?  coming up dry on google
[07:30] <Blue1> !hcl | blue1
[07:30] <abumaia> Blue1: their website doesn't have anything for you?
[07:31] <Blue1> abumaia: i haven't seen any I'll keep looking -- it shipped with only windoze software
[07:32] <Blue1> abumaia: it just says this in the hcl:  genericups upstype=7
[07:32] <cyrus_mc> I am trying to do something like find /etc/conf.d | tar cfv to create an archive frmo the files in conf.d but the tar command isn't workign. Anyone know how to do that
[07:33] <abumaia> Blue1: oh yeah, the website has Linux software for that UPS
[07:33] <daeo> ok thanks for the help given.. i suppose i won't be getting anywhere with this then.
[07:33] <abumaia> 32 (and 64) bit Shutdown software for HID USB and serial UPS
[07:33] <cjae> daeo: fix ntfs first, then check cd then come back and ask
[07:34] <Blue1> abumaia: ahh let me try it thanks
[07:34] <cjae> daeo: http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/pub/releases/karmic/  the alternate disc is one the page
[07:37] <MHz128> hi
[07:37] <MHz128> how do I clearn the dns cache?
[07:37] <MHz128> clear
[07:38] <Billiard> MHz128: i beleive ubuntu doesnt have any sort of dns cache by default
[07:39] <MHz128> oh
[07:39] <Blue1> abumaia: okay it's installed but how do I run it?
[07:40] <abumaia> Blue1:  sorry, but I have no idea.  I just went to the website to confirm if they had linux software available, I don't have any of their products.
[07:40] <dragon> How do I check whether my OS is 32-bit or 64-bit? It's Friday night, so someone needs to remind me.
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: uname -a
[07:41] <hiexpo> good evening all
[07:41] <dragon> mneptok: Linux hostname 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: right
[07:41] <dragon> mneptok: does that mean i386?
[07:41] <mneptok> dragon: yes
[07:42] <iceroot> dragon: dpkg --print-architecture
[07:42] <dragon> iceroot: that's a better one, thanks.
[07:42] <iceroot> dragon: but more to write :(
[07:42] <dragon> though `uname -a` would work on all UNIX systems I think.
[07:43] <dragon> iceroot: autocomplete FTW
[07:43] <dragon> :)
[07:43] <iceroot> dragon: correct, mine is only working on debian based distris
[07:43] <abumaia> iceroot: does that show if you have a 64-capable processor, or just whether you have the 32 or 64 version of ubuntu installed?
[07:43] <iceroot> abumaia: its showing what you have installed
[07:43] <dragon> abumaia: the version of OS, that is, ubuntu
[07:44] <abumaia> how do you find out if your processor is 64-capable?
[07:44] <dragon> abumaia: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[07:44] <iceroot> abumaia: lm in /proc/cpuinfo
[07:44] <dragon> abumaia: if there's lm under flags, your processor supports 64-bit OSes.
[07:44] <iceroot> abumaia: imo lm stands for large memory i think
[07:45] <abumaia> yeah, it shows up twice
[07:45] <abumaia> sweet, next time I do a reinstall, I'll try the 64 version
[07:45] <dragon> abumaia: most of the newer machines (intel core etc.) are 64-bit.
[07:46] <iceroot> abumaia: you only need 64bit if you have 4gb and more
[07:46] <dragon> iceroot: 3GiB
[07:46] <abumaia> hmm, nope, only got 3gb ram
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> 64bit can help math intensive tasks also. like video reencoding and so forth
[07:46] <abumaia> I do run a lot of BOINC though
[07:46] <iceroot> dragon: 3gb ram + adrress bus should be fine with 32bit
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i  also found it easier to go all 64bit on my 4 pc  Lan. that way i can cach the same packages on one server. :)
[07:47] <dragon> My P4 box had the lm flag present for some reason. I'm running 64-bit karmic on it now.
[07:49] <Gnea> hrm, isn't there a way to get java to work in firefox 3.5 for 9.04?
[07:49] <Gnea> I've tried installing the !java way, but no go
[07:49] <iceroot> Gnea: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[07:50] <dragon> Gnea: did you install the plugin the iceroot way?
[07:50] <Gnea> it's still downloading
[07:50] <iceroot> Gnea: i had the same problem some days ago, i was download jre and not the plugin
[07:51] <Gnea> well it's almost done :)
[07:51] <abumaia> I had that same problem when I first installed ubuntu.  It's a little confusing for a newbie ^_^
[07:51] <keepsake> Any way to change audio codecs in karmic? My sound quality is trash.
[07:51] <hiexpo> i have boticed a lot of the times it can be a 64 bit processor but only be a 32 bit system
[07:52] <iceroot> hiexpo: sure
[07:52] <iceroot> hiexpo: amd64 cpus can run 32bit nativ
[07:52] <hiexpo> yep
[07:52] <hiexpo> thats what mine is
[07:53] <hiexpo> i have ro throtle mine down cause it gets to hot sometimes
[07:53] <UK-DO> Hello guys I need some criticle help for setting up ppp broadband I tried hard but I cant seem to make it work
[07:54] <Gnea> iceroot: thank you :)
[07:54] <iceroot> Gnea: np
[07:54] <dragon> UK-DO: how far did you get?
[07:55] <atomfox> Need help trying to edit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu but the changes I made don't apply
[07:56] <UK-DO> I installed kubuntu and configured my Username password and phone no
[07:56] <UK-DO> but it needs to configure modem I cant do that
[07:56] <UK-DO> Phone no is not really phone no its server name "abc/abc"
[07:57] <atomfox> anyone?
[07:57] <kermiac> hey ppl anyone use quassel & know how to ignore CTCP or Version requests from the spam bots? I can't seem to get it right
[07:58] <kermiac> I asked in #quassel, but maybe they're all asleep?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> UK-DO:  how are you connecting exactly?
[07:58] <iceroot> kermiac: /ignore * CTCP  or something like that. look at /help ignore
[07:58] <kermiac> ty iceroot. I'll give that a try :)
[07:58] <iceroot> kermiac: /IGNORE * CTCPS
[07:59] <abumaia> atomfox:  sudo gedit /etc/xdg/menus/application.menu ?
[07:59] <iceroot> !gksudo | abumaia
[07:59] <UK-DO> 1st it needs to connect LAN then dial a server to start broadband thorugh PPP
[07:59] <UK-DO> everything goes throuh ethernet twisted pair
[08:00] <atomfox> abumaia, I edited it already the problem is it dont apply to my menu bar, the things I added does not appear on my menu bar :(
[08:00] <iceroot> atomfox: you have to restart the menu-bar/panel
[08:00] <abumaia> iceroot:  I'm still trying to figure out when something is graphical or not.  ^_^
[08:01] <iceroot> abumaia: everything starting with g is grapchical norally
[08:01] <abumaia> atomfox: did a logout-login not help?
[08:01] <owen1> what's the name of this multiplayer game - ball-shaped creatures that shoots on each other, and have catch the flag option as well. they also have ropes they can use to jump.
[08:01] <atomfox> nope
[08:01] <iceroot> abumaia: but of course you want sudo vim instead of gksudo gedit :)
[08:02] <atomfox> abumaia, nope
[08:02] <abumaia> hehe.  I'm still new to this, not sure if I'm ready yet to move up from gedit ^_^
[08:02] <owen1> abumaia: no worries. vim is a life-changing tool
[08:02] <robb> aren't they all
[08:03] <iceroot> abumaia: yes the first time you see vim you will be afraid but ofter some time you will see how mich powerfull vim is
[08:03] <UK-DO> I cant really understand this bcoz I'm still a newbie otherwise I could have tried this to install PPP during Kubuntu install  >>>>>> Installing over PPPoE is mostly the same as any other installation. The following steps explain the differences.Boot the installer with modules=ppp-udeb as boot parameter. This means that at the boot prompt you should enter:
[08:05] <NotTooSmart> why does my swap some times work on boot, and others not load, and when I try to do sudo swapon -a it says, swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptoswap: open failed: No such device or address
[08:06] <abumaia> it's almost like learning a different language.  you have to use different forms of some words depending on what you're talking about, just like you have to use different forms of sudo depending on what you're running ^_^
[08:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I have a source file that includes #include <openssl/bn.h>. What needs to be installed to make this work?
[08:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there a dev package or something? The obvious, apt-get install openssl, reports its already installed.
[08:08] <Slart> NotTooSmart: how is your swap defined in fstab?
[08:09] <NotTooSmart> Slart:
[08:09] <NotTooSmart> /dev/mapper/cryptoswap none swap sw 0 0
[08:09] <iceroot> CoJaBo-Aztec: try apt-file search bn.h  (before install apt-file and run sudo apt-file update)
[08:09] <Slart> CoJaBo-Aztec: libssl-dev is the one you're looking for..
[08:10] <UK-DO> I think it was easier in Ubuntu 8.10 I could configure SLIP connection and network would start as it should be. So is there no way I can make it work for Kubuntu 9.10
[08:10] <Slart> CoJaBo-Aztec: and I agree with iceroot.. apt-file is a wonderful little tool for these kinds of problems
[08:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Thanks, that should turn out to be very helpful o_O
[08:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec>  sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> oops
[08:11] <Slart> !find openssl/bn.h
[08:11] <Slart> ubottu is also a nice tool =)
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[08:11] <iceroot> Slart: but not intelligent :)
[08:11] <Slart> iceroot: hehe
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I guess thats why they call it a "tool"...
[08:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> LOL
[08:12] <Slart> NotTooSmart: could it be a race condition? that /dev/mapper isn't created when it tries to mount the swap?
[08:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yay, it compiles now! xD
[08:12] <NotTooSmart> Slart: my encrypted drive always works ... and /dev/mapper/cryptoswap is always created
[08:13] <FIlalet> Hi everyone
[08:13] <Slart> NotTooSmart: no error messages in syslog or kern.log?
[08:13] <NotTooSmart> Slart: how do I check?
[08:13] <UK-DO> I ll try this "install modules=ppp-udeb" lessee what happens :\
[08:14] <Slart> NotTooSmart: gedit /var/log/syslog    and   gedit /var/log/kern.log    try searching from the end
[08:15] <iflema> Slart tail
[08:15] <NotTooSmart> Slart: Jan 22 06:27:15 media kernel: [56884.010887] FAT: Directory bread(block 275) failed but its not FAT ?
[08:16] <infid> how come karmic doesn't have an ~/.Xauthority file?
[08:16] <Slart> iflema: we're looking for an error message that has happened sometimes during the last couple of boots.. might as well look at the entire file
[08:17] <UK-DO> The PPPoE connection set up during the installation will also be available after the reboot into the installed system (see Chapter 7,Booting Into Your New Ubuntu System). <<<<<<<<<< ANY help bout this
[08:17] <Slart> NotTooSmart: never seen that message before.. not really sure what it means..
[08:17] <abumaia> On a previous installation, I told ubuntu to install with an encrypted home directory.  But whenever I logged in, I was unable to use synaptic, update manager, pretty much any program that asks for a password before starting.  It only did that when the home directory was encrypted.  When I reinstalled with an unencrypted home, everything worked as it should.  Is there something special that needs to be done when using an encrypted home, to make those prog
[08:17] <iflema> Slart more
[08:17] <kaushal> checking in again for my query ?
[08:18] <Slart> iflema: got something against gedit? why not "cat" when we're at it?
[08:18] <NotTooSmart> Slart: it is actually a server install ;-P
[08:18] <iflema> Slart yeah good one.... ill put a screen lock on asap ;)
[08:19]  * iflema busted
[08:19] <Slart> iflema: =)
[08:19] <Slart> NotTooSmart: ahem.. well.. =)
[08:19] <NotTooSmart> so if the device is created, and referenced correctly in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab
[08:19] <NotTooSmart> what can the problem be
[08:19] <isolat3dsh33p> I'm watching a movie from a shared folder in my friends computer and it's always get stuck, is there anyway to make it faster besides downloading the file from the network?
[08:21] <Slart> NotTooSmart: I can't really think of any other reason for it to work *some* of the time...
[08:21] <NotTooSmart> Slart: me either
[08:24] <NotTooSmart> Slart: well I think I just fixed it by re-creating the swap partition
[08:25] <abumaia> that sounds almost face-palm worthy
[08:25] <Slart> NotTooSmart: huh? I'm happy for you.. but I still don't understand why that would work
[08:25] <NotTooSmart> Slart: alright, neither do I
[08:27] <NotTooSmart> Slart: Probably because your right and on reboot it goes back to not working.
[08:27]  * iflema little shit
[08:27] <NotTooSmart> lol
[08:28] <Slart> NotTooSmart: you could of course try not mounting the swap in the fstab and create a script that runs on boot with a sleep 10; create swap
[08:29] <Slart> NotTooSmart: but that's kind of like giving up =)
[08:29] <NotTooSmart> Slart: yea, but its kind of easy ;-p
[08:30] <NotTooSmart> do you have ideas on how to fix the problem then :-)
[08:31] <zetheroo> I wish F-spot would not create a copy of all my photos ... isn't there some app that uses a database or something to sort the pics instead of physically creating duplicates of everything?
[08:31] <Slart> NotTooSmart: nope.. I've been googling about swap and encryption.. haven't found anything useful yet
[08:32] <NotTooSmart> Slart: /etc/crypttab is also involved
[08:32] <infid> why doesn't ubuntu 9.10 come with an ~/.Xauthority file?
[08:32] <NotTooSmart> Slart: cryptoswap /dev/sda5 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 is the line im using
[08:33] <ghostknife> With the new ubuntu's there is no xorg.conf by default. I need to add some settings to xorg.conf, how can I generate one with my current settings so I can change it. I don't want to create one and have to struggle to get settings into it that matches my current working configuration.
[08:33] <EmLeX> nvidia-xconfigure?
[08:34] <EmLeX> nvidia-xconfig*
[08:34] <EmLeX> ghostknife:
[08:35] <Slart> infid: here's some info on that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteXHowTo
[08:35] <ghostknife> EmLeX: thanks. "aticonfig --initial" seemed to generate something. Now just to try it out
[08:36] <trollboy> is the weather app not updating for anyone else?
[08:36] <EmLeX> ah u have ati sorry
[08:36] <robertneville777> Whatsup guys!
[08:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:36] <abumaia> trollboy: which weather app?
[08:36] <infid> slart heh i'm actually already reading that, but that tells me it creates a file in /tmp, but i've looked in there and it didnt
[08:36] <Duder> hi, i need to make a bootable usb install disk of ubuntu that will run on computers which do not support booting from usb
[08:37] <bazhang> Duder, that does not make sense
[08:37] <Duder> Can unetbootin format the usb disk to cdfs
[08:37] <dnm_> i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive
[08:37] <Slart> infid: hmm.. same thing here... odd
[08:37] <Duder> i did it before with windows 7
[08:37] <dnm_> help plz
[08:38] <infid> slart i'm reading the xauth man page and i think i need to do the xauth extract stuff to get the cookie on the client machine
[08:38] <EmLeX> have any1 tested if it is any delay whit full hdd encryption on things in ubuntu?
[08:38] <Duder> then my bios recognized my usb as a cd
[08:38] <dcntrct> Hi.  I would like to upgrade my Jaunty Jackalope to a Karmic Koala but when I attempt to do so it says it plans to REMOVE mysql5-server.  That scares the crap out of me... does that mean my database data will disappear ?!
[08:38] <rumpsy> dcntrct: i think it will not
[08:39] <dnm_> i am using a dual boot .. while ubuntu tells me i am out of space .. windows tell me i have 1gb on the drive ... any help
[08:39] <dcntrct> hrmmm... "I think" is not reassuring enough... I suppose I will have to figure out how to backup my data ;)
[08:39] <rumpsy> take a backup of your db and tables if you afraid of
[08:39] <joyce_> Hello can someone please tell me how to match all files that are not jpg|gif|png|ico in FilesMatch directive of apache
[08:39] <Slart> infid: well.. I suppose the man pages should be trusted.. I don't have a better alternative solution
[08:39] <dcntrct> yeah
[08:39] <dcntrct> thanks
[08:39] <Kvist> l
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  if your linux filesystems are full.. they are full or getting full.  you did a normal install? not a Wubi Install?
[08:40] <spersaud> what will be the next release of ubuntu ?
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  or are you refering to the windows fileysstems?
[08:40] <bazhang> spersaud, April
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !release | spersaud
[08:40] <abumaia> spersaud, 10.04 Lucid Lynx, in april
[08:40] <dnm_> dr_willis: i am not sure on that .. i get htis pop up on my ubuntu interface telling i have 170mb free space
[08:41] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: does df -h say the same?
[08:41] <glassresistor> so i just "upgraded" to an ssd on my dell inspion 1545 thinkin it would give me another hour or so of battery life but its actually cut it down an hour
[08:41] <dnm_> actionparsnip: wats df -h
[08:41] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: a terminal command
[08:42] <abumaia> glassresistor:  downgrade to the original drive then?
[08:42] <dnm_> actionparsnip: k can you feed me in more on that
[08:42] <glassresistor> im running karmic on ext2 with most of my IO set to tmpfs
[08:42] <Slart> glassresistor: hmm.. I was thinking of doing the same on my laptop.. wonder why that is
[08:42] <actionparsnip> Dnm_ open a terminal and type "df -h" without the "s
[08:42] <NotTooSmart> Slart: maybe i should go about writing that script ;-p
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  empty the 'trash' and perhaps clean out stuff you dont need.   check your filesystems to see what all is taking up space. How big is your / filesystem and your  /home ?
[08:42] <glassresistor> abumaia: well yeah maybe go back but it boots much faster and programs are snappier but im still confused as to why
[08:43] <spersaud> what are the benefits of Ubuntu vs Debian ?
[08:43] <actionparsnip> Dnm_: same free space?
[08:43] <actionparsnip> !ot | spersaud
[08:43] <dnm_> actionparsnip: did tat
[08:43] <glassresistor> spersaud: ubuntu is easier debian is more open
[08:43] <iceroot> spersaud: debian = stable without usability, ubuntu = not stable like debian with usability
[08:43] <actionparsnip> Dnm: does it give the same result for free space?
[08:43] <EmLeX> have any1 gotn a 1400x900 tty1 shell before cant pick that res in grub2
[08:44] <glassresistor> is there a tool for listing the different devices power usage in real time?
[08:44] <iceroot> glassresistor: maybe powertop
[08:44] <Slart> NotTooSmart: try asking the channel again.. perhaps someone else has run into the same problem
[08:44] <actionparsnip> Emlex: its a setting in. /etc/default/grub read this:
[08:45] <actionparsnip> !grub2 | emlex
[08:45] <dnm_> actionparsnip: sent u teh feedback to a sepertae window
[08:45] <glassresistor> iceroot: powertop tells me what an apps power consumption is
[08:45] <glassresistor> iceroot: and it just keeps saying i should auto suspend my usb
[08:45] <dnm_> dr_willis: the trash u mean is the one on the mainpage rite ???
[08:46] <iceroot> glassresistor: ah ok, the sorry
[08:46] <zetheroo> in ##linux a guy is saying that in Ubuntu you don't use sudo to enter your root password ?!
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  err.. yes.. the trashcan. :)
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  sudo is for the USERS password
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  theres no default root user password
[08:46] <dnm_> dr_willis: tats empty
[08:47] <trollboy> Weather Report 2.28.0 is failing to update, is this happening for anyone else?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  time to learn some linux basics and how your filesystems are laid out and figure out where your space went. How much space did  You allocate to linux anyway>
[08:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: so is that a security issue?
[08:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: cause that is whats being said
[08:47] <spersaud> Dr_Willis: are you really a PHD or of the like ?
[08:47] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  zetheroo
[08:48] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: can you install Ubuntu without setting a sudo password?
[08:48] <trollboy> spacey, Dr_Willis did his post-doctorate work at evil university
[08:48] <dnm_> dr_willis:  u r rite ... i think when i was installing it .. it asked me the same question .. i dont remember what i entered .. i think 4 or 8 gb
[08:48] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: by the default  you just use sudo when you want root for anything
[08:48] <iceroot> zetheroo: without sudo you cant manage your system
[08:48] <Slart> zetheroo: not really a security issue.. you use the same password to access sudo as you do to login..
[08:48] <zetheroo> right ...
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  whats a security issue?    the phrase 'sudo password' is incorrect. You set up sudo to allow USERS to do specicif things.. its the users password they enter to gain sudo privialges
[08:48] <trollboy> Hi OhioEric what part of ohio?
[08:49] <zetheroo> but can you leave the password area blank when installing Ubuntu?
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: maybe, but that woudn't be a good idea
[08:49] <iceroot> zetheroo: dont do something like that
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: you should have a password with letters and numbers at least
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  sounds like you shoudl of allocated more space.. 4gb is very tiny.. 8gb is useable.. if you are carefull time to clean out stuff.. or get more space.
[08:49] <Slart> zetheroo: sudo offers you a bit mre granularity.. ie you can allow one user to only run the backup software as root.. but he/she can't run other commands.. with a root password it's all or nothing
[08:49] <sebsebseb> zetheroo: and at least 8 characters I would say, but I guess the longer the better really
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  i doubt if the installer will let you enter a blank user password.
[08:50] <zetheroo> hmmm ok
[08:50] <dnm_> dr_willis:  i would like the second option .. how do i get more space
[08:50] <iceroot> !tab | dnm_
[08:50] <zetheroo> basically they are saying to not use a debian distro is security matters to me ...
[08:50] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: well 123 has been possible, if I remember correctly
[08:50] <Slart> Dr_Willis: I think it will complain at least.. it does that when I use 4 letter passwords for my account.. but it creates them
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  live cd and gparted and resize.. or reinstall. and give it more space.
[08:50] <neil_d> I am having trouble with a raid1 setup.. I am trying to test if all the setups are done right, by turning the computer off, removing a HDD and seeing if it will boot...  grub is installed on both HDD and I do get a menu :) but it doesn't boot.  :( I can manage to get it to start the (initramfs) :)  but the raid1 isn't configured properly... can someone help?
[08:50] <Slart> Dr_Willis: that's in a vm, btw... not on my real system
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Slart:  yea. I always use the same password normally :) so o dont try others.
[08:51]  * Dr_Willis recalls a bug a few releases back where you could make a initial user with the name 'root' :)
[08:51] <Slart> zetheroo: buy a good book on linux security and systems management.. it will do more to secure your system than selecting some special distro
[08:51] <dnm_> dr_willis:  i dont want to unistall n reinstall
[08:51] <leofenghuang> 难道没有中国人？
[08:52] <OhioEric> Cleveland
[08:52] <zetheroo> Slart: right
[08:52] <theadmin> !ch | leofenghuang
[08:52] <bazhang> leofenghuang, /join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[08:52] <dnm_> dr_willis:  is there an easier option
[08:52] <iceroot> dnm_: type dr and then press the tab-key (two arrows on it)
[08:52] <glassresistor> iceroot: is not problem thanks for the help but any idea on how switchin an hd can increase power usae
[08:52] <OhioEric> for whomever asked
[08:52] <maco> !cn | leofenghuang
[08:52] <zetheroo> in Ubuntu the user password is what is used to gain root level privileges - no?
[08:52] <bazhang> theadmin, its cn or zh or tw
[08:52] <Slart> zetheroo: yes
[08:52] <dnm_> iceroot: thanks .. that was helpful :-)
[08:52] <hyperstream> Why would urlsnarf or wireshark stop internet traffic on an airbase-ng  soft AP(when a client is connect and its using the wlan0 to provide net to wlan2(SoftAP) its also very slow(with good signal)
[08:52] <theadmin> bazhang: Sorry, messed a bit
[08:52] <Slart> zetheroo: if your user is an admin user, that is
[08:52] <zetheroo> Slart: ok
[08:53] <iceroot> zetheroo: maybe have a look at  man sudo
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:   gparted to resize or reinstall.. pick one..  or make a new partition to put /home on and leave the 8gb just for / , If you just got 4gb for / - then I suggest  making it at least 10gb
[08:53] <theadmin> my first shell script, yay :D... okay, sorry, this was offtopic
[08:53] <zetheroo> this is utter bs ... "(19:22:54) valan: zetheroo perhaps in the last year they changed the default, but a year ago you didn't need a password at all to access root via sudo" ...
[08:53] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: gparted to resize
[08:53] <Slart> zetheroo: bs..
[08:53] <gerard> p2000
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> You can set it where you dont need a password to sudo... but thats not reccomended. :)
[08:54] <Slart> zetheroo: it's been the same way for at least 3 years or so
[08:54] <theadmin> zetheroo: No... I did use Ubuntu around a year, you always needed a password to gain root
[08:54] <zetheroo> exactly
[08:54] <iceroot> zetheroo: in every ubuntu and debian relase you need a password for sudo by default
[08:54] <Slart> zetheroo: but we can only speak for the ubuntu distros.. there are lots of derivatives out there
[08:55] <zetheroo> I have used it since 2005 and always needed my admin password
[08:55] <hyperstream> zetheroo, sudo su -
[08:55] <hyperstream> zetheroo, careful with it.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> sudo su - is redundant. :)
[08:55] <zetheroo> Slart: well he is talking about Ubuntu
[08:55] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, i use it daily :)
[08:55] <theadmin> What's that, sudo su? sudo -i is the recommended way
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  learn better habbits
[08:55] <hyperstream> theadmin, whats the difference?
[08:56] <iceroot> hyperstream: environment
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  envirimental settings
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, no thank you, im fine with root terminals :)
[08:56] <maco> theadmin: "sudo su" is like "sudo -s"
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  learn the proper way to get a root terminal
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, why?
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, its working fine for me with the method i use?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen several cases where your sudo su - or other things can get things goofy
[08:56] <maco> hyperstream: "sudo su" = "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" = "sudo su -"
[08:56] <iceroot> hyperstream: as we told you, the environment is the reason
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> its also 'redundant' :)
[08:56] <maco> hyperstream: if youre going to use "sudo su" at least include the - at the end
[08:56] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, please show me examples. Hope its stuff i use sudo su - for ..
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> hyperstream:  i pasted a url.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> go read it :)
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, ive read that several times.
[08:57] <iceroot> hyperstream: please reread then
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, still doesnt justify why im being told that i need to do it another way ?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Then you are lucky you havent stumbled upon some of the quirks.
[08:57] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, yeah for the paste year ....
[08:57] <hyperstream> past*
[08:57] <maco> Dr_Willis: what hyperstream is fine
[08:57] <theadmin> Okay... now this is annoying. How can I make Ubuntu stop displaying dumb messages like these? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot.png I want it to always run shell scripts in terminal
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ive seen people spend some time trying to track down  some issues doing it other ways.
[08:58] <maco> Dr_Willis: hyperstream didnt say "sudo su" but rather "sudo su -" which IS the same as "sudo -i"
[08:58] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, what maco said :)
[08:58] <maco> Dr_Willis: if hyperstream just said "sudo su" then yes, the env would be an issue as that's only "sudo -s"
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> 'he command sudo -i is the equivalent to the 'su -' command'  or so i hear.
[08:58] <ardchoille> hyperstream: YOU don't need to do it another way, you can do whatever you want on your system. However, while in this channelit's best to recommend the proper way to do things
 zetheroo, sudo su -
[08:58] <dinosaurvskitten> Does anyone here use full disk encryption? I'm wondering how well it plays with laptops. For instance, what happens if you hibernate? Do you get prompted for a password or does it stay mounted?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> sudo su - is like sudo sudo sudo sudo su  logic isent it..
[08:59]  * Dr_Willis ssh's to localhost for fun.
[08:59] <zetheroo> hyperstream: whichis for what?
[08:59] <hyperstream> ardchoille, perhaps, but not to me... to the person i may have miss informed. sudo su - is fine.
[08:59] <maco> Dr_Willis: well yes, its less efficient and requires spawning more shells, but in terms of teh env settings, its the same effect
[08:59] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: yes, you are asked for your encryption password again (at least with TC)
[08:59] <bullgard> I downloaded the DEB program package »jargon-text«. What is the preferred Ubuntu way to read and search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt? '~$ most /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt' is uncomfortable.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> I recall having my own custome root .profile and other things in the past (dont do it as much now a days) and had to be carefull how i 'su'd' to root
[09:00] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, thanks
[09:00] <theadmin> bullgard: You can try a text editor, or maybe less or more
[09:00] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, any particular reason why you went for TC instead of dmcrypt?
[09:01] <theadmin> TC? Is this for TrueCrypt?
[09:01] <pat|nG> is it possible to activate 3D with a built-in intel gfxcard?
[09:01] <hyperstream> bullgard, gedit file.txt  or nano file.txt or vim file.txt (from console, otherwise applications>accessories>gedit
[09:01] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, yes, at least that's what I assumed :)
[09:01] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: i have had a lot of experience with truecrypt, and it is very user friendly and easy to use
[09:01] <bullgard> theadmin: Following your advice is uncomfortable. As I pointed out, even most is inconvenient.
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  it works for my Netbook. well compiz and low end 3d games work. :) its not got much Powar!
[09:02] <Miracle> Hi all. I am trying to set up a little-osm server. I am running the following command and getting an error: sudo mysql -u root<planet.sql
[09:02] <Miracle> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) how can I run this if I can't log in as root?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  search and read for what exactly?
[09:02] <theadmin> dinosaurvskitten: Cool thing imho... and I've no idea what the heck dmcrypt is, but truecrypt totally rocks... it's quite uncomfortable to do NTFS formatting though
[09:02] <pat|nG> compiz?
[09:02] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: plus, it allows you to encrypt a disk/partition that is in use (which was handy for my win7 netbook)
[09:02] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, it is user friendly in some sense, but in others the UI is a bit glitchy from what I could tell when using it with an external drive (prompting for the volume password and root password before checking whether the mount point is already in use or whether the device exists at all)
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | pat|nG
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  it gives ubuntu the fancy eye candy
[09:02] <infid> has anyone in here got X11 ssh forwarding working on ubuntu 9.10? it's supposed to work out of the box but definitely isn't for me, nor with lots of tweaking
[09:02] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: I designeted the object of my question exactly. What do you want to know exactly?
[09:02] <pat|nG> does it work to kubuntu?
[09:03] <pat|nG> i'm in kubuntu kde
[09:03] <theadmin> pat|nG: Yes, but you'll have to mess around a bit
[09:03] <soreau> pat|nG: Most intel chips will already have 3D working by default
[09:03] <maco> Dr_Willis: pat|nG is trying to do it with kwin's 3D but its refusing to enable
[09:03] <pat|nG> #kubuntu no support channel
[09:03] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, dmcrypt seems to be pretty much like truecrypt but at the kernel level
[09:03] <bazhang> pat|nG, sure, but kde4 has its own compositing
[09:03] <bullgard> s/designeted/designated/
[09:03] <pat|nG> i got kde4 i check all options but nothing happnd
[09:03] <pat|nG> :(
[09:03] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: i never use the ui unless i am creating a new drive. i have a boot password, and then after it logs in, it automounts my 3-4 internal volumes
[09:03] <hyperstream> Miracle, mysql --help, i think off the top of my head you need to use -p
[09:03] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, I may be mistaken though - I only just started reading up about it
[09:03] <Slart> infid: you mean things like ssh -X 192.168.42.42 gedit  ?
[09:03] <infid> slart yeah
[09:04] <maco> hyperstream: yep that sounds riht
[09:04] <Miracle> hyperstream - thx    I'll look into it
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, ah ok
[09:04] <infid> i can ssh -X <host> but if i type 'gedit' it will say authenication failed
[09:04] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: is dmcrypt cross platform?
[09:04] <Slart> infid: let me check
[09:04] <hyperstream> Miracle, nps, mate
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> theadmin, what do you mean by uncomfortable?
[09:04] <bullgard> hyperstream: nano is bad. It is even worse than most.
[09:04] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, probably not
[09:04] <hyperstream> bullgard, how can i tell from looking at your name, how advanced you are with linux ? :), yes i agree nano is bad.
[09:05] <blakkheim> use vi
[09:05] <theadmin> dinosaurvskitten: Well, on Linux I kinda have to first do "truecrypt --mount somefile --filesystem=none", then "mkfs -t ntfs /dev/mapper/truecrypt1"
[09:05] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, then again, the drives I'll be encrypting are linux filesystems, which aren't mountable on the other OS I use (for now anyways...)
[09:05] <maco> or if you want to look all advanced: type "view" as it is vi in read only mode :P
[09:05] <infid> slart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[09:05] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: that would be another reason why i wouldnt use it. i switch between windows and linux every now and then, and it is really nice to not have to worry about reencrypting the disks
[09:05] <Slart> infid: hang on.. let me get my vm's up and running =)
[09:05] <hyperstream> maco, :P
[09:05] <infid> k
[09:06] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, yeah I think I'll go for truecrypt after all
[09:06] <glassresistor> anyone know of an app to view harddrive power usage
[09:07] <bullgard> hyperstream: So what Ubuntu program is best suited to read ans search /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt?
[09:07] <dinosaurvskitten> glassresistor, you might be able to get some info from powertop, but I'm not completely sure
[09:07] <bullgard> s/ans/and/
[09:07] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: one thing you may try, is to mount the volumes at a lower mount point (i mount mine at X/Y/Z in windows)
[09:07] <hyperstream> bullgard, most text editors have a search function built in.
[09:07] <maco> bullgard: i dont really know what you're looking for exactly. i mean, i just use "less"...
[09:07] <hyperstream> bullgard, cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for
[09:08] <bullgard> hyper
[09:08] <maco> hyperstream: O_o
[09:08] <blakkheim> hyperstream: why would you do that
[09:08] <maco> hyperstream: grep what-im-lloking-for file.txt
[09:08] <blakkheim> ^
[09:08] <dinosaurvskitten> hyperstream, grep what-im-looking-for file.txt
[09:08] <hyperstream> cause im a noob ?
[09:08] <dinosaurvskitten> darn, beat me to it
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> redundancy again! :)
[09:08] <hyperstream> :)
[09:08]  * cachivachi gets disgusted
[09:08] <theadmin> hyperstream: Don't worry, I do that too :D
[09:08] <hyperstream> it works none the less
[09:08]  * cachivachi leaves
[09:08]  * Dr_Willis wayves bye to cachivachi
[09:08] <hyperstream> theadmin, one of the first things i learnt, just a habbit :)
[09:09] <hyperstream> cachivachi <-- weak as :)
[09:09] <theadmin> same here, hyperstream
[09:09] <bullgard> hyperstream, maco: "less" is no convinient tool for /usr/share/vh/jargon.txt
[09:09]  * maco wants to know what was disgusting
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  and why is it not convient? ive dont think youve clarified that point.
[09:09] <theadmin> maco: Probably the "cat file.txt | grep what-im-looking-for" part
[09:09] <bullgard> s/convinient/convenient/
[09:09] <hyperstream> maco, think it was my: "cat file.txt | grep "search stuff"
[09:09] <maco> bullgard: is there something odd about it? it's a text file. its what i use for every textfile
[09:09] <yahya> hi
[09:09] <hyperstream> bullgard, what is your actual issue ?
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> firefox whatever.txt   :)
[09:10] <infid> theadmin: you dont have to cat a file to grep it. just do 'grep foo file.txt'
[09:10] <yahya> i  need help
[09:10] <bullgard> maco: It is a specially formatted text file.
[09:10] <hyperstream> yahya, tell us about your issue ?
[09:10] <maco> infid: hyperstream said it and then 3 of us said what you just said
[09:10] <yahya> ممكن مساعدة
[09:10] <theadmin> infid: Yeah I know, just an old habbit from back when I didn't know much about bash
[09:10] <maco> infid: and then someone  /part'd in disgust
[09:10] <theadmin> yahya: Wha?
[09:10] <hyperstream> what language is that lol
[09:10] <maco> !sa | yahya
[09:10] <theadmin> hyperstream: hebrew, imho
[09:10] <infid> heh sorry
[09:10] <Xfact> utorrent now officially accepted that it can run nicely on WINE, http://www.utorrent.com/downloads (system requirements) !
[09:11] <infid> i like transmission, what's utorrent got on it?
[09:11] <zetheroo> has anyone here had success running Plasma in Ubuntu?
[09:11] <hyperstream> Xfact, whats wrong with qbittorrent ?
[09:11] <dinosaurvskitten> infid, the UI's less clunky to put it bluntly/vaguely
[09:11] <hyperstream> infid, i dont think transmission support DHT
[09:11] <maco> zetheroo: inside gnome, instead of in kde?
[09:12] <zetheroo> maco: yep
[09:12] <hyperstream> infid, but qbittorent does :)
[09:12] <stanman246> hey in here, just received my net xw4400 pc, can't wait to get ubu on it. But am in doubt... What's better 32 or 64 bits. Am kinda new on ubuntu
[09:12] <yahya> يا احبابي انا مش عارف اهمل ثلاثي الابعاد لسطح المكتب ممكن مساعدة
[09:12] <theadmin> Plasma in GNOME? o_O Now I am disgusted.
[09:12] <maco> zetheroo: plasmoidviewer or something....
[09:12] <theadmin> yahya: English please
[09:12] <hyperstream> yahya, /join #ubuntu-arabic
[09:12] <infid> i've never needed fancy bt features. dont even know what they are. i just know i get my files super fast over fios
[09:12] <maco> zetheroo: you need to run the plasmoids inside a viewer thingy
[09:12] <Xfact> hyperstream:  I use transmission, I am just saying now the original is supported, then why look for alternatives...!
[09:12] <ardchoille> !arabic
[09:12] <shamrezsadat> 063306cc062f 063406450639063106cc0632 06330627062f0627062a
[09:13] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, please stop that
[09:13] <theadmin> shamrezsadat: UTF-8 please!
[09:13] <maco> shamrezsadat: unicode, please
[09:13] <zetheroo> maco: have you done it?
[09:13] <maco> zetheroo: nope, i use kde
[09:13] <shamrezsadat> sssssd
[09:13] <dinosaurvskitten> is there a reason why I should *not* use noatime with all my mounted partitions?
[09:13] <zetheroo> maco: I heard of people doing it in Ubuntu ..
[09:13] <stanman246> it's a C2D cpu, so it's 64bits, but is ubuntu 64bit the same as 32bit?
[09:13] <neil_d> I have a raid1 setup... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid up :( it says the only HDD is a spare.. when I stop it and rescan it finds it and starts it properly... what do I do about this?
[09:13] <bullgard> Dr_Willis, hyperstream, maco : Synaptic: "This version is in the original text format and is best viewed with Volks-hypertext browser (vh), but can be viewed without it."
[09:14] <maco> zetheroo: i know its possible. i just havent tried it as i dont have gnome
[09:14] <theadmin> plasma on Gnome is likely a bad idea, though, zetheroo
[09:15] <theadmin> worse idea is plasma on XFCE though :D
[09:15] <zetheroo> theadmin: why?
[09:15] <shamrezsadat> buggy?hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah
[09:15] <hyperstream> bullgard, im not sure if im correct on this, but the answer is within what you paste yes?
[09:15] <Slart> infid: ok.. it works without any problems here..
[09:15] <ChrisMorgan> My Ubuntu 9.10 system just froze completely (no response to any input method, including e.g. Caps Lock not changing its light status) while I was running Rhythmbox (just after the habitual restart
[09:15] <shamrezsadat> buggy
[09:15] <theadmin> zetheroo: Well, GNOME is not intended to use Plasma... it will just look weird, trust me %)
[09:15] <Slart> infid: tried it  9.04 desktop -> 9.10 desktop.. clean install.. just installed openssh server and it works
[09:15] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, did you have a support question?
[09:15] <infid> slart weird. i dont know what i'm doing wrong. i even tried disabling my firewall. the only thing i can gather is that i'm using public keys and have disabled password logins, which might be conflicting with it
[09:15] <zetheroo> theadmin: have you done it?
[09:16] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: Did you try reisub?
[09:16] <infid> slart i'm doing a 9.10 dt to a 9.10 dt
[09:16] <ChrisMorgan> due to sleep causing it to fail reading the CD), and so I did a hard restart.  Now I've got gdu-notification-daemon and Palimpsest Disk Utility telling me of SMART problems...
[09:16] <mimis> i try to open .deb files but i can't, do tou know what may be the problem?
[09:16] <zetheroo> shamrezsadat: yeah  ... wondering the same ... did you have a Q?
[09:16] <shamrezsadat> noooooooooooooooooooo
[09:16] <ChrisMorgan> (Sorry, I didn't mean to press Enter first time)
[09:16] <zetheroo> shamrezsadat: so your here to help out/
[09:16] <zetheroo> ?
[09:16] <theadmin> mimis: Do you have the admin rights? Is gdebi working normally?
[09:16] <shamrezsadat> no he is not tell me
[09:16] <bullgard> hyperstream: It is not. --  Thank you.
[09:16] <stanman246> anyone?
[09:16] <bazhang> shamrezsadat, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[09:16] <Slart> infid: what was the error message you got?
[09:17] <hyperstream> bullgard, volks-hypertext browser?
[09:17] <mimis> theadmin: how can i check it?
[09:17] <infid> slart it tells me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. (gedit:2345) Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[09:17] <shamrezsadat> bazhang i fuck ur sister mthere fucker
[09:17] <stanman246> does 64bit have all the same software as ubu 32 bits?
[09:17] <hyperstream> ot oh
[09:17] <hyperstream> we have a kick comming :LP
[09:17] <theadmin> mimis: Well, try running the console based installer and see if you succeed. "sudo dpkg -i debpackage.deb"
[09:17] <Slart> stanman246: yes
[09:17] <dnivra> hyperstream, bazhang beat you to it:)
[09:17] <hyperstream> i stand corrected :)
[09:18] <stanman246> thanks Slart
[09:18] <laeg> a facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?]
[09:18] <hyperstream> dnivra, i dont have oper priv's :)
[09:18] <dnivra> hyperstream, i meant he did it before you could even say it:)
[09:18] <hyperstream> dnivra, oo my bad lol, yes very quick
[09:18] <ChrisMorgan> It's an incidental thing I've observed as absolutely consistent behaviour: play a CD with Rhythmbox, put the machine in standby, when it wakes up, Rhythmbox won't be able to play the CD until it's restarted, claiming a read buffer failure of some sort (can't remember precisely what it was).  Replacing the CD doesn't help.
[09:18] <dnivra> hyperstream, no problem:). i know that was damn fast
[09:18] <yahya__> mhdilove3@hotmail.com
[09:18] <Slart> stanman246: I can honestly say that I wouldn't be able to tell if it was 32bit or 64bit if you just put me in front of a computer with ubuntu.. well.. unless I run uname or something like that, of course
[09:19] <theadmin> yahya__: Don't spam!
[09:19] <dnivra> another one soon coming I guess.
[09:19] <theadmin> ...i guess I shouldn't show up in this channel around that time... never did before, never saw any spam... sigh %)
[09:19] <stanman246> Slart: I want to use it for video editing, so i hope that will increase the box' speed
[09:20] <Slart> stanman246: don't get your hopes up.. it's not that much faster
[09:20] <stanman246> hmmm
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> stanman246:   You may see some gains. but it depends on what you do.  of course if its a 2% gain..  over the course of a 3 days of video reencoding,,.,,
[09:20] <ChrisMorgan> So now Ubuntu is telling me that the S.M.A.R.T. chip in my disk is reporting "Disk has many bad sectors" (Reallocated Sector Count is 65541 sectors... suspiciously close to 65536 which I thusly presume is a magic number with hard disks).  Would this be due to the system's freeze and hard restart, or the other way round, or something else altogether, or no way of telling really?
[09:20] <theadmin> Why do I hear a loud pop-like sound when I hibernate?
[09:21] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: NEVER HARD RESTART!!! Use REISUB!
[09:21] <stanman246> even if i pop in 8gb's?
[09:21] <ChrisMorgan> theadmin: I had no choice, it was all completely locked up.
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> stanman246:  more is always better. :)
[09:21] <Slart> ChrisMorgan: I would say it's your hard drive that is crashing.. backup backup backup
[09:21] <foul_owl> anyone here use directfb?
[09:21] <bupsss> hello
[09:21] <theadmin> ChrisMorgan: Did you even try REISUB?... Altough... I'd run fsck from a Live session and see if it fixes those errors
[09:21] <Slart> stanman246: memory size is the only really noticable difference between 32bit and 64bit..
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> First all except the mouse froze, then the screen went black (except for the mouse cursor for some reason) and all input stopped working.
[09:22] <Slart> stanman246: if you've got more than 3.5GB go with 64bit
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> Caps Lock was stuck on (don't recall having it on... wondered why it was on)
[09:22] <hyperstream> ChrisMorgan, CTRL + ALT + F1 didnt do anything either?
[09:22] <ChrisMorgan> So I really had no choice (and anyway, I've never heard of reisub :D)
[09:22] <mimis> theadmin: i still can't install it. Before this problem i installed build-essential, i don't know if it matters
[09:22] <foul_owl> is it possible to run opengl apps without x11
[09:23] <dinosaurvskitten> cegorach, looks like there's some support for dmcrypt on windows through freeotfe
[09:23] <stanman246> ah... I'll just give it a try then... Now the only thing I need to know is: Got me a dual xp install on the box (C: and E:)... And a large free partition for Ubu, will grub pick up both xp installs? Need that for my wife and kids...
[09:23] <ChrisMorgan> hyperstream: I tried Ctrl+Alt+(Backspace|Delete), but not Ctrl+Alt+F1 'cos I couldn't remember it
[09:23] <hyperstream> stanman246, yes it should
[09:23] <fourshore> when i try to join a counterstrike server my screen goes blank and i get the message "Out Of Range"
[09:23] <hyperstream> ChrisMorgan, ok, kept it in mind for next time, should give you a console to work with
[09:23] <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, input from the keyboard and mouse didn't seem to be getting processed at all, at the hardware elvel, I think
[09:23] <fourshore> how do i fix this?
[09:23] <hyperstream> fourshore, installed with what? wine?
[09:24] <hyperstream> fourshore, #winehq
[09:24] <infid> slart do you have the file ~/.Xauthority or did it work for you without it?
[09:24] <Slart> infid: I think it said something about creating that when I connected
[09:24] <fourshore> yes wine
[09:25] <stanman246> ok, I'm going for it! can't wait... thanks for the advice guys!
[09:25] <fourshore> but they don't know the answer
[09:25]  * iflema thinks... the real me thinks winblows apps with wine as a system requirement..... what!/why!/NO! (floodgates) or maybe the beginning of the end, amen to that.
[09:25] <infid> slart what all did you do, just ran the command 'ssh -X host command'? or did you run any 'xauth' stuff?
[09:26] <hyperstream> fourshore, this is a ubuntu channel, not a wine channel, hence why there is #winehq
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> The wine app database is also good..
[09:26] <Slart> infid: I installed openssh-server and some regular updates.. then I opened a terminal and ran  "ssh -X 172.16.0.1 gedit"  that opened a gedit window remotely.. I closed that and tried just "ssh -X 172.16.0.1" and then ran gedit from that prompt which also worked.. nothing else
[09:26] <abu123> Hi
[09:26] <Xfact> anybody can refer me some useful lite-weight web browsers?
[09:27] <abu123> how to copy to /usr/share/sounds
[09:27] <laeg> Xfact: firefox, firefox portable
[09:27] <hyperstream> Xfact, chrome is pretty lightweight :)
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  google chome, opera, midori
[09:27] <cegorach> dinosaurvskitten: interesting... doubt i'll switch from tc, since it has served me so well
[09:27] <Slart> infid: no configuration.. no xauth stuff
[09:27] <hyperstream> Xfact, or lynx (terminal)
[09:27] <Guard1an> Xfact, gnome/kde?
[09:27] <fourshore> hyperstream, why are you whining then
[09:27] <Xfact> Midori type...Fireox and chrome and opera not lite weight
[09:27] <cegorach> hyperstream: how does chrome run in linux?
[09:27] <hyperstream> cegorach, sure does mate
[09:27] <Xfact> Guard1an:  gnome
[09:27] <laeg> Xfact: what seems to be the problem?
[09:27] <hyperstream> cegorach, get it from google :)
[09:28] <abu123> I want you install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, i definatly use it, have for a while now
[09:28] <hyperstream> fourshore, 'whining' about what?
[09:28] <abu123> I want to install win7 transformation pack for ubuntu
[09:28] <cegorach> hyperstream: not does it run, _how_ does it run, like how well?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> abu123:  so... whats stopping you...
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, flawless for me and ive put it through everything i can think of
[09:28] <Xfact> laeg: firefox aqnd chrome taking too much ram while loading (flash based etc.) heavy weight pages.....
[09:28] <Xfact> *an d
[09:28] <hyperstream> cegorach, flash etc, all fine,(sorry miss read your question)
[09:28] <Guard1an> Xfact, midori
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  if you want low ram ussage.. disable flash.. perhaps..
[09:29] <abu123> I want to make ubuntu as win7 look
[09:29] <cegorach> hyperstream: nice. i will def have to get that instead of recustomizing ff here on my server
[09:29] <Xfact> How is epiphany?
[09:29] <hyperstream> cegorach, yeah im in love with chrome.
[09:29] <Guest90567> hi suche verzweifelt diesen patch für macbook 4,1 soundkarte
[09:30] <Guest90567> patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz
[09:30] <Guest90567> kann mir wer helfen?
[09:30] <Slart> infid: if I check the host computer now, I do have a .Xauthority file.. and when I try to rerun the ssh command it doesn't say anything about it any more
[09:30] <jasmin76> danke
[09:30] <Slart> infid: I can try deleting it and trying again
[09:30] <Guard1an> Xfact, mmm not sure if it's stabalised, they moved to webkit from gecko
[09:30] <Xfact> Dr_Willis: turning off flash wasn't a decent idea :(
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  i think disabling flash is a VERY decent idea. :)
[09:31]  * Dr_Willis waits for teh day when flash goes the way of  Realplayer
[09:31] <Xfact> anybody heard about a audio player 'aTunes', it's having lots of problem!
[09:32] <jasmin76> HI guys searching for my macbook 4,1 this sound patch    patch_realtek.c.mb31.gz
[09:32] <jasmin76> can somebody help me?
[09:32] <cegorach> dr_wilis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?
[09:32] <Guard1an> Youtube switched to html5
[09:32] <neil_d> I have a raid1.. if I disconnect a HDD initramfs wont start the raid device up :(   why?  Have I configured it wrong or something?
[09:32] <Xfact> Dr_Willis: in peasant days, 80% good looking and useful sites are flash based!O:-)
[09:32] <BlouBlou> jasmin76: yes, and what do you want do with it?
[09:32] <hyperstream> !germen
[09:33] <hyperstream> wow cant even spell that one aye ><
[09:33] <neil_d> Xfact: and none need to be.
[09:33] <cegorach> dr_willis - did you see that youtube can now be used without flash?
[09:33] <theadmin> !de | hyperstream
[09:33] <pat|nG> does compizfusion supports KDE?
[09:33] <jasmin76> to activate also the third speaker ...
[09:33] <ziroday> pat|nG: yes, for more details ask in #kubuntu
[09:33] <cegorach> anyone know how to set up a teamspeak server?
[09:34] <infid> Slart:  it's ok thanks. i just have a messed up system for some reason. i'll figure it out eventually. thanks for all the help.
[09:34] <pat|nG> ziroday: #kubuntu is a ghost channel
[09:34] <Slart> infid: you're welcome
[09:34] <ziroday> pat|nG: it most certainly is not :)
[09:34] <laeg> under ubuntu 9.01 a facebook flash app i open with firefox connects to me on 9339, i need to check whether the port is tcp or udp and where exactly it's connecting from. how can i?
[09:35] <neil_d> laeg: netstat might do that..
[09:35] <theadmin> laeg: 9.01?! What kinda thing is that? o_O
[09:35] <laeg> theadmin: funny
[09:35] <laeg> neil_d: ty, i'll have a look
[09:35] <iflema> laeg netstat -tuna
[09:36] <whynot> buongiorno a tutti
[09:37] <laeg> iflema: ty, if i'm on a website but it has already loaded and there are no ads etc, will it still show up?
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> !info gnomeartng
[09:37] <laeg> i imagine the facebook app will keep 'loading' so will be establish, my last question is offtopic
[09:38] <iflema> laeg for a little while add  c netstat -tunac
[09:38] <pat|nG> laeg: check ur apps
[09:39] <pat|nG> install the new flash player
[09:39] <chilipepper> I have fliles in flac and I want to convert them into mp3. What media converter do you suggest?
[09:40] <iflema> laeg and maybe pipe through grep
[09:41] <laeg> iflema: thanks, i got the port and ip
[09:41] <laeg> pat|nG: what will checking my apps and installing the latest flash do?
[09:41] <rossini> ciao
[09:42] <thejoni> ubottu
[09:42] <thejoni> what is ubottu
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[09:43] <owner> how to register nick name?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> !register | owner
[09:45] <Topy44> i am still trying to find out how the look of the buttons in the gnome panel window selector applet gets defined
[09:45] <thejoni> what is ubuntu
[09:45] <Topy44> somewhere in the gtk theme i guess...
[09:45] <Topy44> but i cant find it
[09:45] <thejoni> !ubuntu
[09:45] <suigeneris> !ubuntu | th0ger
[09:45] <bazhang> thejoni, an OS.  chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you dont have any support questions
[09:45] <suigeneris> !ubuntu | thejoni
[09:47]  * citbun is away (disconnecting...)
[09:47] <canotto> exit
[09:48] <bacilon> adios
[09:48] <bacilon> me piro
[09:48] <ranjan> hello every body i am having an problem with samba sare i am not able to brouse the network place from my ubuntu 9.10  any help will be great
[09:49] <bacilon> engaleee
[09:49] <MauritianGuy> guys how do i check drivers for my whole system
[09:49] <bacilon> olaaaaaaa
[09:49] <bacilon> k aceis
[09:49] <bazhang> !es | bacilon
[09:49] <MauritianGuy> i just updated nvidia driver i am not sure if it got installed or not
[09:50] <hyperstream> MauritianGuy, use the display manager
[09:50] <hyperstream> MauritianGuy, System>Pref>Display (choose to use manufactor software)
[09:50] <iflema> MauritianGuy lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:51] <MauritianGuy> thanks i am on it
[09:51] <canotto> ciao
[09:51] <iflema> canotto ciao
[09:51] <bazhang> !it | canotto
[09:51] <Diverdude> I need to understand this correct. If I have bought a new device, e.g. a USB wireless network adapter and i need to install the driver for it, i need to recompile the kernel?
[09:52] <soreau> Diverdude: You dont need to recompile the kernel
[09:52] <thejoni> !register thejoni
[09:52] <canotto> scusa sono nuovo e sto cercando di capire come muovermi
[09:52] <Diverdude> soreau, when do you then need to recompile the kernel?
[09:52] <bazhang> canotto, english here ; #ubuntu-it for Italian
[09:52] <thejoni> !register
[09:53] <Xfact> Osdisk.com taking $5 for Ubuntu CDs http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/ubuntu?ad=google&gclid=CM_ii5ueup8CFY0vpAodImPFbA why?111
[09:53] <Xfact> !
[09:53] <bazhang> thejoni, help in #freenode for registration
[09:53] <Slart> Xfact: to cover the cost of the physical disc?
[09:53] <soreau> Diverdude: That is a subjective question. Short answer is you never need to compile your own kernel
[09:53] <canotto> #ubuntu-it
[09:53] <bazhang> Xfact, that is offtopic here
[09:53] <Slart> Xfact: it's not illegal to charge money for opensource software
[09:53] <bazhang> canotto, /join #ubuntu-it
[09:53] <theadmin> XFact: You can resell Ubuntu, it's normal
[09:54] <theadmin> XFact: Altough it's also dumb
[09:54] <soreau> Diverdude: Which device do you have as reported by lsusb?
[09:54] <Topy44> seems like a fair price for burning and shipping a disc, especially if its labeled
[09:54] <bazhang> lets take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:54] <Xfact> yea, why people will buy a free thing!
[09:54] <theadmin> Yep, that would go there...
[09:54] <Topy44> because some people dont have a highspeed internet connection
[09:54] <bazhang> Xfact, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:54] <Topy44> or access to one
[09:55] <Diverdude> soreau, moment...I will be right back.
[09:55] <iflema> support
[09:55] <Topy44> and it might just be easier to order it on dvd then getting it downloaded somewhere else, where they still need to buy media to put it on
[09:56] <Slart> Topy44: you had better start listening to ops.. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Topy44> sorry
[09:56] <Topy44> must have missed that
[09:57] <ecto> if I try to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using the Update Manager, do you think it will install GRUB2?  I've got LILO installed because for whatever reason this Dell doesn't like GRUB (1)
[09:57] <soreau> ecto: An upgrade wont install grub2
[09:57] <Slart> ecto: I don't know for sure but from what I've heard it keeps your current grub version
[09:57] <soreau> only clean install of karmic or later
[09:58] <ecto> OK
[09:58] <bazhang> you can choose grub2 in an upgrade
[09:58] <greek-33> DNS Question: I have 2 DNS servers. When my primary is down, my ubuntu client is too slow
[09:58] <greek-33> any ideas?
[09:59] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[09:59] <soreau> greek-33: Use GEs dns 4.2.2.1 or googles 8.8.8.8
[09:59] <fourshore> where is the default download directory in ubuntu?
[09:59] <papul> better use opendns
[10:00] <papul> much much better than the others
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> I perfer googles DNS servers to opendns
[10:00] <rww> How do I change the CPU frequency governor from the command-line?
[10:00] <oCean__> rww: cpufreq-selector
[10:01] <titan_ark> hey. am having some trouble getting my audio to work
[10:01] <rww> oCean_: thanks
[10:01] <MoL0ToV> i just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick...
[10:01] <titan_ark> cant seem to get the alsa and pulse audio plugins to install
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: I think that depends on what application you use to download stuff with
[10:02] <fourshore> the terminal?
[10:02] <fourshore> or firefox?
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: chromium has one.. firefox has another.. it might be in ~/Downloads .. I have mine set to ~/Desktop
[10:02] <Slart> fourshore: bash doesn't download files afaik
[10:03] <Slart> fourshore: firefox has a setting for it.. check the preferences
[10:03] <greek-33> thanks you
[10:03] <greek-33> bye
[10:03] <fourshore> where does firefox save files?
[10:03] <MoL0ToV> i just installed ubuntu un a ext4 usb stick: exist a way to speed up the system when ther are a disk write operation? firefox is so slow... i think that writes something to usb stick..
[10:04] <Slart> fourshore: start firefox, click the Edit menu, click preferences..  choose the Main tab.. see the lower part of that window? it's right there
[10:04] <incidence> Hm, do I have some kinda rootkit or such? I'm getting lots of "xmvs: no such nick/channel, vtf: no such nick/channel, ydhgrfsgknvi: no such nick/channel" to my status window?
[10:05] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, ext2 is actually the best for USB/SSD - lack of journaling cuts down on writes to disk, thus faster & preserves the hardware longer
[10:05] <Topy44> incidence: no, its a problem on freenode currently, its spambots
[10:05] <incidence> Topy44: Ah, thats what the javascript spam thing was about
[10:05] <Topy44> exactly
[10:06] <MoL0ToV> ZykoticK9, exist a way to entirely cache the root fs, systemlog dir, tmp dir so if i write something there is more fast?
[10:06] <fourshore> it says user/Downloads
[10:06]  * incidence stops downloading GRsecurity
[10:06] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, no idea man - best of luck
[10:06] <fourshore> but where is that directory... it doesn't seem to be within the File System drive?
[10:06] <MoL0ToV> i can mount /tmp and /var/log as tmpfs? this can improve performance?
[10:07] <ZykoticK9> fourshore, try "cd ~/Dwonloads" in a terminal
[10:07] <Slart> fourshore: it's probably ~/Downloads .. as in /home/<yourusername>/Downloads
[10:07] <MoL0ToV> i can mount a ext4 fs but use as ext2?
[10:07] <ZykoticK9> MoL0ToV, i doubt it, but maybe
[10:08] <fourshore> yeah i know, but shouldn't it reside within the drive which i installed ubuntu? ie. "Filesystem"
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  I dont think thats fully possible.  thers some backwardsd compat features with ext4->3->2 but  thats proberly pushing it
[10:08] <MoL0ToV> in facts only firefox is so slow... how i can know what and where firefox writes ti disk?
[10:08] <MoL0ToV> to
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  check your firefox browser settings.  It saves them to Downloads here in my Homedir
[10:09] <Karollo> Hello!
[10:10] <Slart> fourshore: why would you download things into your system drive? downloads go to a folder in your home hierarchy..
[10:10] <Karollo> Is there sth like MS paint for Linux? I don't mind gimp
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[10:10] <paranoid_ndroid> Karollo, tuxpaint
[10:10] <stanman246> during the install, should i choose for guided or manual option? I want to triple boot after the install
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> Karollo:  tehres proberly other painting programs out.. depends on your needs
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> Gimp is really not made for 'painting' :)
[10:11] <Karollo> thanks :)
[10:11] <fourshore> Slart, because I come from a Windows background
[10:11] <blue_pearl> stanman246: manual
[10:11] <fourshore> so this home heirarchy, is that like on a separate partition to the system drive?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  it can be.. or not
[10:11] <Dr_Willis>  /home/usernames/stuffgoeshere
[10:12] <stanman246> blue_pearl: will grub pick up both the other os'?
[10:12] <jasmin25> searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid
[10:12] <blue_pearl> stanman246: what r the three OS which U want 2 install?
[10:12] <Slart> fourshore: do you save stuff in c:\windows  when you're running windows?   your home folder can be on a different partition if you've set it up that way it can also be on the root drive.. in /home/<yourusername>
[10:13] <ubuntuser> does anyone have experience with virtualbox on a linux distro, windows and visual studio_ Does it seem to work well?
[10:13] <stanman246> got 2 xp's (on sda1 and sda5) the rest is free space
[10:13] <ubuntuser> &j #linux
[10:13] <stanman246> ubuntuser: I'm running it fine
[10:13] <blue_pearl> stanman246:: grub will pick it up automatically
[10:13] <stanman246> ok, thanks
[10:13] <ubuntuser> stanman246, okay...what kind of Visual Studio projects do you make_
[10:13] <Slart> fourshore: all user settings go to that same place... your home folder.. system wide settings is in /etc usually.. but if it's a per-user setting it usually ends up in that users home folder
[10:13] <dnm_> can some help me sort out some space problems on my ubuntu
[10:14] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser: what do u want 2 know about virtual box????
[10:14] <blue_pearl> stanman246: u r welcome.
[10:14] <stanman246> ubuntuser: actually none, did some trying out and did an install just to see if it worked
[10:14] <fourshore> Slart, but is that home folder on the same drive as the system files?
[10:14] <oCean_> dnm_: just ask. Use pastebin for pastes
[10:14] <ubuntuser> blue_pearl, well if i can create asp.net applications in visual studio on virtual box without any problems
[10:14] <soreau> ! ask | dnm_
[10:15] <stanman246> ubuntuser: i use virtualbox OSE for all M$ needed apps
[10:15] <ubuntuser> stanman246, do you have it running now?
[10:15] <Slart> fourshore: it can be.. or it can be on a different partition
[10:15] <ubuntuser> stanman246, Basically I am interrested in if I am able to create asp.net apps on virtual box
[10:15] <dnm_> running a dual boot .. ubuntu is showing low space .. help needed
[10:15] <stanman246> it's on my laptop, am doing an ubu install right now
[10:15] <stanman246> ubuntuser: can't see why not
[10:16] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser: well generally every software for windows runs fine on virtaul box....VS will also run perfect...i think
[10:16] <ubuntuser> stanman246, i was just thinking that there might be a problem with the webserver and all
[10:16] <stanman246> why
[10:16] <Slart> fourshore: but you'll find it at /home/    that still doesn't mean it has to be on the same partition as /   (root)
[10:17] <Karollo> I'm writing (Shutdown 0) in my terminal and PC i shutting down but it's only ubuntu logo and i thinks then my pc is freezd, why? It doesn't close
[10:17] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: u there
[10:17] <stanman246> i recall doing a VE with xampp, which worked just fine
[10:17] <oCean_> dnm_: some details would be nice. Are you running ubuntu currently? Then (in terminal) do "df -k" and "sudo fdisk -l" and paste output on paste.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <stanman246> could even reach it from the outsite ;_
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  yes.. what have you actually done to figure out how much space you are using and where its at?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  dont expect us to play 20 questions all day long to get to the actual problem.
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> actual question.. that is.. :)
[10:18] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: sorry i m new to this n m not sure how to get things done
[10:18] <dnm_> oCean_: i m using ubuntu now .. will do the terminal thing
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  #1 starters install the 'pastebinit' command via 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[10:19] <ubuntuser> stanman246, its because I have dual boot system now...and was thinking about devoting everything to ubuntu instead and running virtualbox for visual studio...but its a big step to take because i need to be able to develop .net web apps...so that has to workperfectly
[10:19] <jasmin25> help
[10:19] <oCean_> dnm_: ok. After you've pasted the output of the commands at paste.ubuntu.com, you can give the resulting URL in this channel, so we can have a look
[10:19] <blue_pearl> ubuntuser:why dont u give a try....i dont thinku will face any prob...
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  then use the command to give us some info tell us eht URLs for the pastebin  pastes for the following command 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit' and 'df -h | pastebinit'
[10:20] <laeg> how do i resolve an ipaddress to domain name?
[10:20] <LuciusMare> ohai
[10:20] <jasmin25> help
[10:20] <raven> (how) is possible to open a partition which has been saved by PARTIMAGE?
[10:21] <LuciusMare> what is the name of the widget that displays a small menu where i can browse my home folder? (out of the box, it is right next to the K menu) - and can i get it on debian?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> raven:  you can mount 'filesystem' images with the loop option of mount  theres an example for iso files.
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[10:21] <bazhang> LuciusMare, on debian?
[10:21] <Guest60196> weee
[10:21] <LuciusMare> bazhang: yes
[10:21] <bazhang> LuciusMare, ask in #debian
[10:21] <LuciusMare> er
[10:21] <raven> Dr_Willis, partimage gives no iso files
[10:22] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare: Folder View Screenlet????
[10:22] <LuciusMare> but how should they know what do i mean?
[10:22] <LuciusMare> i ask here because i found it on kubuntu only
[10:22] <raven> Dr_Willis, and it's not a single file but about 20 á 4 gb
[10:22] <LuciusMare> blue_pearl: i meant the KDE thingy
[10:23] <dude> hello everyone
[10:23] <maxunack> Q: i'm installing ubuntu and am wondering which mount points to use (and what size for each)? i've done swap, but what about /, /home and whatever else? i have 450gb to spare
[10:23] <nikhil_> how does one troublehoot a kernel panic under ubuntu?
[10:23] <joschi__> hi
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> raven:  iso is just an example..   you could check the partimage docs/guides to see how they reccomend doing it
[10:23] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare:if u install Screenlet and start the "FolderView" screenlet u can get to view folder,files from a widget..it available on all Linux
[10:23] <LuciusMare> maxunack: i usually leave about 50 gigs or so for /, and rest for /home
[10:23] <LuciusMare> blue_pearl: i dont mean screenlets, i mean the KDE widget
[10:23] <dnm_> oCean_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/
[10:24] <maxunack> LuciusMare: thanks.. any other partitions i should think about? maybe /var ?
[10:24] <blue_pearl> LuciusMare: ok i c....well i dont use KDE..but i understand what u r asking about.
[10:24] <maxunack> maybe some hefty log files might come along... but maybe not important since its for personal use
[10:24] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361168/
[10:25] <LuciusMare> maxunack: well, i think that for desktop, separate home is just about enough
[10:25] <blue_pearl> maxunack:if u do swap and / its enough to install Ubuntu
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> raven:  a quick google - shoes many people wanting to do it.. and not being possible
[10:25] <maxunack> cool cool, thanks, guys
[10:25] <blue_pearl> maxunack: u r welcome.
[10:25] <raven> Dr_Willis, yes that's the problem...
[10:25] <argued> I am in need of buying a new hard drive, my question is if I install the new HD and put my old HD in an external case, will I be able to mount the external hd with all files on it and copy it over to my new one witch I will install Karmic on?
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  Hmm.. thers not any linux partitons shown  - How exactly DID you install ubuntu?
[10:26] <LuciusMare> maxunack: though, if you are going to install a server, and you have a specific reason to use separate /var (for keeping logs?) or /usr (for installing applications), go ahead. I recommend separate home, eventual migrating to another distro is MUCH easier
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> argued:  i do that all the time.
[10:26] <hyperstream> argued, yes, provided the hard disk is in working order.
[10:26] <oCean_> dnm_: there's no linux install on that disk. I also asked to paste the output of "df -k", that'll show us the linux disk partitioning
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> argued:  actually with grub2 - it can even detect/boot the external one. :)
[10:26] <dude> i want to install raid disk. what can i do
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> !raid | dude
[10:27] <CAiRO> hi
[10:27] <argued> thank you guys, I wanted to ask before just so grub wont cause any trubles
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> dude:  read up on the topic  a good deal befor starting. :)
[10:27] <fourshore> i just installed the latest version of Wine but need to downgrade to 1.1.34, how do i do this?
[10:27] <dude> raid 5
[10:27] <LuciusMare> fourshore: apt-get install wine=1.1.34
[10:27] <CAiRO> i'm having problems accessing an usb stick from the desktop, when i plug in the stick, it appears in the "place" menu, but selecting the stick from there does nothing
[10:27] <CAiRO> no mount, no window opening, nothing
[10:27] <dude> thank you
[10:28] <LuciusMare> fourshore: useful tip, just add = and version, and poof! instant specific version
[10:28] <CAiRO> and the same thing works on my ubuntu notebook without problems
[10:28] <CAiRO> what could be the cause?
[10:28] <fourshore> LuciusMare, thanks. Do I need to apt-get remove wine first?
[10:28] <jasmin25> searching for my macbook 4,1 a soundfix for ubuntu interpid
[10:28] <CAiRO> my user is part of the group "disk"
[10:28] <LuciusMare> well
[10:28] <stanman246> got 3 partitions: 40gb for / 200mb for /boot and 100gb for /home.... am i doing the right thing or should i assign a different partition for /tmp?
[10:28] <argued> does anyone here have anything to say about Western  Digital Caviar Black Dualcore 640GB
[10:28] <LuciusMare> fourshore: not sure, if it does not work, remove it first
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> argued:  its a 640gb hard drive....
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:28] <fourshore> LuciusMare, do I need to remove the current (latest) version first
[10:28] <stanman246> WD..
[10:28] <fourshore> ok
[10:28] <stanman246> :)
[10:29] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: well i installed wubu first then i downloaded it via net and installed it
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  wubi is a special way to install Ubuntu 'inside' windows  - I dont use wubi. so cant help.
[10:29] <Para> h
[10:29] <argued> DR Willis: that much I get.. I ment - I wont use any more hitachi drives cause they wont work all that good for me, how about WD for you guys
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  ive no idea if its even possible to resize a wubi install
[10:29] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: oh k
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> argued:  HD's are the weakest part of any system I find. - I tend to  balance price vs size  and warrenty.
[10:30] <stanman246> should i make an assigned /tmp partition?
[10:30] <dnm_> oCean_: have any suggestions
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  i suggest doing a 'normal' ubuntu install to real partitions. and forgetting wuibi even exists
[10:30] <oCean_> !wubi | dnm_ here's some more inof on installing/running wubi (i don't have that either)
[10:31] <konrads_> Hi, I have an ancient 7.04 ubuntu
[10:31] <argued> the price is right atm and warrenty is 5 years so all that is good as far as I need to know
[10:31] <LuciusMare> konrads_: congratulations
[10:31] <konrads_> i want to upgrade to latst, but 7.04->9.10 is not supported
[10:31] <konrads_> nor I can find a 7.10 mirror
[10:31] <konrads_> what should I do?
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> argued:  who has 5 yr warrenty? I turned 2 segates the other day and got them replaced. :) they wer both 4 yrs old..
[10:31] <om26er> can I decrease the width of window list applet?
[10:31] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: k i m not getting it .. so basically you are tellin me that i havent installed it the right way
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> konrads_:  the old repos get moved to some  archive server.
[10:31] <argued> my local dealer who sells WD
[10:32] <chilipepper> Wow Dr_Willis , that was cool
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  you installed it in the 'wubi' way - a 'install under windows' way. thats not  what Most linux users use
[10:32] <iflema> CAiRO have you been messing with user access rights? whats the kernel version on troubled os?.... did you compile it yourself? whats the file system on the flash disk?
[10:32] <oCean_> konrads_: here is some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:32] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: ok .. so how do i do it the other way
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  boot the cd.. follow the installer directions
[10:33] <raven> is possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  i would backup any data ya got on the wubi install and remove it.. then do a nomral install
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: ok so for that i have to get a cd
[10:33] <CAiRO> iflema: no, i haven't except for adding my user to groups like audio, i'm using 8.04 with a 2.6.24-26 kernel
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  you can make a bootable flash drive  No cd needed
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: my data is on another drive
[10:33] <argued> is there anything else I need to think of before doing this? my harddrive is practically full atm, losing transfer speed for every backup and I believe I need to change it before I lose anything important
[10:33] <dnm_> Dr_Willis: how do i do that .. can you give me a link
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: the stick has a fat filesystem and yes, i've rebuild the ubuntu kernel image but only the PAE option changed
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:   use the usb-creator tool thats in the menus
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: everything else is the same
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> dnm_:  or the 'unetbootin' tool
[10:34] <CAiRO> iflema: i can mount the sticks as root using mount on the command line
[10:34] <CAiRO> but i want it to happen automatically as on my notebook
[10:34] <iflema> CAiRO ok\
[10:35] <CAiRO> iflema: i wonder how to debug this? where can i see message of something failing if i click on my stick from the places menu and nothing happens?
[10:35] <oCean_> konrads_: upgrading would be a huge deal, with uncertain result. Backup your data, and do fresh install might be best option!?
[10:35]  * ultraparadigm is excited! Just beat Portal My first real game in linux. Whoot! <-----such a n00b
[10:36] <raven> is possible to restore a partimage backup into a folder instead of a partition?
[10:36] <konrads_> oCean_: thanks
[10:36] <argued> Dr_Willis: ?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> argued:  ??
[10:36] <argued> Dr_Willis: anything else I need to keep in mind before doing this?
[10:37] <iflema> CAiRO this kernel recompile you did a complete copy bar the added PAE support?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> argued:  doing what? I got distractd by some cookies that needed nom noming...
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:37] <CAiRO> iflema: i've created my own "pae flavour" as some of the howtos in the net recommend
[10:37] <argued> Dr_Willis: cookies are good :) ... about the hd I need to change
[10:38] <iflema> CAiRO debug question a good one.... off top of head not sure
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> argued:  i swap them out to USB enclosuires all the time
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> argued:  slowly moving things over to  enclosures with SATA connectors
[10:38] <CAiRO> iflema: if i knew how to see the command that nautilus or the gnome panels tries to run
[10:38] <CAiRO> iflema: i could probably spot the error
[10:39] <argued> Dr_Willis: alright then, I am of to the dealer so you guys have a nice day
[10:39] <CAiRO> iflema: but my first problem is that nautlis always detaches itself from the terminal and seems to have no debug option
[10:40] <iflema> CAiRO start it with a terminal gksu nautilus and watch the terminal for output...
[10:40] <n8lag> what is the .dmrc file for?
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> n8lag:  your GDM default sessuion setting
[10:41] <CAiRO> iflema: as root, it works strangely
[10:41] <iflema> CAiRO maybe
[10:42] <n8lag> sorry but what is gdm?
[10:42] <zetheroo> is there any way to hide the desktop icons without disabling the desktop itself?
[10:42] <n8lag> gnome something?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  the ubuntu-tweak tool has a setting to do that
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  so its proberly some gnome/gconf setting
[10:42] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: I mean hide all the icons .. not just the system icons
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  I seem to recall that beign a feature.. of course anything in Desktop might still show up
[10:44] <HoodedRat> server irc.goto10.org
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  has a check box to 'Show Desktop Icons'
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  it hides them all here.. even things in Desktop
[10:45] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: oh ok ... will try that out ...
[10:46] <CAiRO> iflema: when i do it as root i can see entries like "Jan 23 11:40:56 belana hald: mounted /dev/sdd1 on behalf of uid 0" in my syslog
[10:46] <CAiRO> but not if i do it as user
[10:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: hmm ... maybe I have to log out and back in for the changes to take effect
[10:47] <n8lag> i am trying to record with the mic like so:  rec foo.wav. i can hear the mic on earphones, but the .wav iss totally silent.  any ideas?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  they got turned off here.. then nautilus crashed.. :)
[10:48] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: hehe ... see when I untick "show_desktop" in gconf-editor I loose all the icons but I also loose the possibility to right-click on the desktop
[10:50] <krixie> hi
[10:50] <fourshore> sudo apt-get install wine=1.1.34
[10:50] <fourshore> version 1.1.34 for wine was not found
[10:50] <fourshore> help
[10:50] <papul> !hi | krixie
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:   could make hide the Volume and other special icons and just keep your Desktop directory empty
[10:51] <n8lag> u can try :  apt-cache search wine
[10:51] <n8lag> that will tell u all the wines they have
[10:51] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: nah ... see I am using the Folder Screenlet ... :)
[10:51] <CAiRO> iflema: just for your information, gnome-mount -vbd seems to have the debug output
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  never heard of it.. :) i find most widgits -- a pain
[10:53] <iflema> CAiRO not there outda box...... but thank u.
[10:57] <iflema> CAiRO hope ya find what ya need..... im worried because of the custom kernel and the adding of users to groups.... you have this trouble.... voids ya support warranty ;) its hard to know exactly what you have been up 2. sorry im not of more useful
[10:58] <CAiRO> iflema: no problem, i've found a workaround meanwhile
[10:58] <CAiRO> iflema: its somehow connected to the policy kit
[10:59] <CAiRO> which thinks my user is not on a local console
[10:59] <CAiRO> i wonder why it does that
[11:00] <papul> how to use git with ubuntu?
[11:00] <fourshore> after decompressing the contents of a tar.bz2 file, how do i run the application/installer?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> fourshore:  totally depends on what it is/wqas in the arvhive
[11:03] <syockit> fourshore: try binary downloads instead
[11:03] <mikebeecham> does anyone know how to get spotify working under wine?  I installed it, it opens up...I can search, but no tracks play past 1 second???
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[11:03] <eremite> test
[11:03] <kostkon> mikebeecham, check your sound prefs
[11:04] <syockit> fourshore: do you specifically need that version, or do you just want the latest version?
[11:04] <kostkon> mikebeecham, wine's sound prefs i mean. and install the latest version of wine. here's the ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/
[11:04] <TeamColtra> is there any simple "String Video Clips Together" type program? (I hate to use this example... but like windows movie maker ugh)
[11:05] <kostkon> mikebeecham, you may also find this page useful http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/
[11:05] <fourshore> syockit, the latest version doesn't work with the program i'm trying to run, so i need that version
[11:07] <Naam> Hi every one , i really need your help :'( i've installed Crunchbang On a USB (8Go) and i can't boot on other system because i have error 21 on boot :( Can someone help me ?
[11:07] <TeamColtra> Naam, #CrunchBang
[11:07] <Naam> thanks i will try in this chanel
[11:07] <eremite> Naam, join the channel #crunchbang
[11:08] <syockit> fourshore: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[11:09] <papul> hi. i want to know what git is and how to use it?
[11:09] <papul> ubuntu documentation SUCKS
[11:09] <blue_pearl> Naam: u there????
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> !git
[11:10]  * Dr_Willis_ wonders how git Docs lead to the logic of ubuntu docs lacking...
[11:10] <iflema> papul http://git-scm.com/
[11:10] <TeamColtra> papul, why didn't you just try git --help
[11:10] <papul> man i have seen all that
[11:10] <blue_pearl> Naam:try reinstalling the grub.
[11:10] <papul> TeamColtra: i dont thinks i have git installed
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  so ask a more specific question perhaps.
[11:10] <TeamColtra> ... then sudo apt-get install git
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> !info git
[11:11] <papul> !info git-core
[11:11] <TeamColtra> ... then sudo apt-get install git-core
[11:11] <TeamColtra> :P sorry
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> actually if ya type 'git' i think it tells you to install git-core. :)
[11:11] <TeamColtra> Dr_Willis, I wouldn't know, when I type git it brings up options since I alreayd have it :P
[11:11] <d3xter> hey guys
[11:12] <fourshore> syockit, what's the difference between i386, amd64 and lpia?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> TeamColtra:  same here..
[11:12] <d3xter> i've got an msi wind with a bison webcam. when i try to disable/enable my webcam with the fn-key, dmesg says "unkown keycode", which keycode should i set?
[11:12] <papul> but what is git?
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, its a revision control program
[11:13] <Dr_Willis_> fast, scalable, distributed revision control system
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, if you are asking questions like that... then thats not Ubuntus fault, thats your non ability to do a google search
[11:13] <papul> so i get the latest versions of all programs?
[11:13] <TeamColtra> papul, programs that use git revision system
[11:13] <syockit> fourshore: it's the architecture of the processor you're using. Actually what you need to download depends on which kernel you installed. Try this in terminal: uname -a
[11:14] <d3xter> any hints?
[11:14] <CooPs89> when I run TOP, how come the total memory used is a lot more than the sum of the RES column?
[11:14] <papul> so when i run git what happens? eg. if i run apt then it downloads a deb file and installs it. but what does git do?
[11:15] <syockit> fourshore: if it has x86_64, then you need amd64. if just x86, then i386
[11:15] <coz_> CooPs89,  try installing htop...I dont think you will get better info but maybe better to read and far
[11:15] <coz_> more options
[11:15] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  git lets people work together on source code in a organized maner.
[11:15] <fourshore> syockit, Linux Mick-desktop 2.6.31-17-generic-pae #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:23:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> I imagine git could work on other things also.. :) but code is the main ussage
[11:16] <papul> then it of no use to me.
[11:16] <Eagle_> hi guys
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  we never said it was.
[11:16] <syockit> fourshore: i686 huh? I suppose you can use the i386 one
[11:16] <papul> btw this is the page that SUCKS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> make it better. then.
[11:16] <coz_> papul,  only if you decide to compile an application from source that is on git
[11:16] <coz_> papul,  then you would need to have git-core installed
[11:17] <lightbricko> My secondary HDD doesn't get mounted anymore. It happened today, and I've not done anything. It's in fstab. It doesn't get mounted at boot and when trying to mount it manually I get "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/SamsungPartition busy". Can someone help?
[11:17]  * Dr_Willis_ wonders why papul  says the page sucks.. if he dident even know what the page was about.
[11:17] <Dr_Willis_> but  thats proberly OT. :)
[11:17] <papul> Dr_Willis_: have u seen arch documentation? they are much better
[11:18] <papul> ubuntu is the most widely use linux distro
[11:18] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  i gave up on arch - if you like arch - go use it i guess
[11:18]  * TeamColtra is trying to figure out how such a detailed help page, can "suck"
[11:18] <papul> its documentation should be good
[11:18] <coz_> papul,  how new to linux are you?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis_> You can edit teh documeion if you wanted to. Ive helped tweak seeral of the docs
[11:18] <papul> 1.5 yrs experience
[11:18] <papul> maybe more
[11:19] <coz_> papul, oh well... then any of the distributions should suit you ...ubuntu can be as complex or ready to go easy as you make it
[11:19] <fourshore> syockit, Error: Breaks exisiting package 'wine1.2' conflict: wine (< 1.2)
[11:19] <Parsi> networkmanager does not work:(
[11:19] <oCean_> papul: if you find it insufficient, then contribute. That's what a community is about. But this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19]  * TeamColtra has 5 years experience and still uses Linux Mint (mainly for the community)
[11:20] <coz_> o0
[11:20]  * TeamColtra is not trying to troll just saying.
[11:20] <oCean_> !doesnotwork | Parsi
[11:20] <syockit> yup, wine1.2 doesn't allow older wine to exist. you may need to uninstall it first
[11:20] <Parsi> I added DSL connection, but shows nothing to select
[11:20] <rww> oCean_: I'm guessing you want !work
[11:20] <fourshore> syockit, but i can't even do that
[11:21] <oCean_> rww: ghe, yep, that's the one
[11:21] <oCean_> !work | Parsi
[11:21] <syockit> fourshore: why? sudo apt-get remove wine1.2 , or anything like it?
[11:21] <fourshore> syockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, sudo apt-get remove wine
[11:21] <Parsi> oCean_: ah, I said, I added a DSL connection but there is nothing to select
[11:22] <fourshore> syockit, sudo apt-get remove wine, Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[11:22] <syockit> fourshore: sudo apt-get remove wine1.2
[11:22] <richards> hey, i've got a new ubuntu 9.10 server install that i would like to have multiple IPs on different VLAN's on.  However, only the vlan I specify the gateway on works. if i specify gateway in multiple interfaces, then the last one i specify works.
[11:22]  * iflema flash-less youtube... amen..... 
[11:22] <fourshore> hmm that worked
[11:22] <fourshore> but why is it 1.2 when it's actually 1.1.36?
[11:23] <sebsebseb> !server | richards
[11:23] <richards> looking in tcpdump shows that pings to ip's that aren't working are being received in the expected place but doesn't show any responses to them.
[11:23] <oCean_> Parsi: in what way you "added a DSL connection" ?
[11:23] <richards> thanks, will ask there
[11:23] <sebsebseb> richards: np
[11:24] <Parsi> oCean_: right click on networknamager and select "Edit conenctions"
[11:24] <Parsi> *connections
[11:24] <isolat3dsh33p> anyone knows the shortcut to focus the entry box in nautilus file browser?
[11:25] <Parsi> there is  'ifupdown(eth0)' connection in the wired conenctions
[11:25] <rww> isolat3dsh33p: if you mean the one where you input a folder to go to, Ctrl-L
[11:26] <isolat3dsh33p> rww, that's it. Thanks :)
[11:26] <rww> isolat3dsh33p: same shortcut as the address bar in various web browsers, incidentally
[11:26] <syockit> fourshore: maybe you accidentally installed wine1.2 previously
[11:26] <isolat3dsh33p> rww, thank's again :D
[11:27] <Parsi> whet I click on NetworkManager opened menu has a disabled Item 'Device is not managed'
[11:27] <Parsi> *when
[11:28] <MauritianGuy> hola
[11:28] <toni_> hola a tod@s
[11:28] <ubuntu51> hello
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> lol
[11:29] <ubuntu51> please help me to change my login themes in new  version of ubuntu
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> i am getting grey hair
[11:29] <toni_> today it's ubuntu user day and at 16:00 let's start , it's true??
[11:29] <ubuntu51> i can't change my login themes
[11:29] <MauritianGuy> i was able to finally install my sound drivers
[11:29] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  install the old gdm if you want to use all the old gdm themes.. the new gdm is not as theable, theres a few tweaks you can do, and the 'epidermis' tool can install/enable a few themes for it
[11:29] <ubuntu51> any available program to change login themes in new ubuntu
[11:30] <MauritianGuy> thank god ausus made a package that does all the updates and installation all at once for the onboard sound drivers it even removed the default one
[11:30] <MauritianGuy> but i am still struggling with Nvidia
[11:30] <ubuntu51> what the version of old gdm
[11:30] <coz_> UbuntU,  well its actually going to use the installed gtk2 themes you have already let me get the command
[11:30] <teflon> .
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  the 9.04 release has the older gdm. 9.10 uses the new gdm.  the old is still in the repios
[11:31] <ubuntu51> i already install gdm
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> does anyone know where i can get someting called a foo-dev or foo-devel
[11:31] <ubuntu51> but i can't change
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> i googled it i cant find it
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  gdm is installed by default allready... what exactly did you install?
[11:31] <coz_> ubuntu51,  sorry that was for you hold on
[11:31] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: as far as I know it's not as simple as just installing the old GDM, you would have to enable it.   there is some program apparnatly that can maybe change theme for new GDM, can't remember what it's called now, plus not in the repo.   So probably better to just install KDM for example which is in the repo
[11:31] <sebsebseb> !info kdm
[11:31] <MauritianGuy> i think its a compler for cc or c++
[11:32] <coz_> ubuntu51,  run this command   change the gtk2 theme  which will change the gdm theme only  then reboot      gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[11:33] <rapcore> poznan.irc.pl
[11:33] <coz_> ubuntu51,   at this point I am using the balanzan theme under user account and also the balanzan gtk2 theme under root which will change the login screen to match my user theme
[11:33]  * Dr_Willis_ dosent worry about themes for somthing he only sees for like 10 sec when he first logins
[11:34] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: KDM looks nice by default,  how Ubuntu does GDM 2 is way to dark for me
[11:34] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  no but that dark gdm theme is difficult to read at least for me :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis_> actually I think this box may be using KDM becauise i never changed it back. :)
[11:34] <ubuntu51> i already install gdm 2.0
[11:34] <Dr_Willis_> some bright ugly checkbord wallpaper its using
[11:35] <Dr_Willis_> !info gdm
[11:35] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  eeww
[11:35] <ubuntu51> u suggest to use old gdm
[11:35] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis_: yeah KDM has a blue theme by default for KDM
[11:35] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: no I suggest to try KDM
[11:35] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu51:  depemnds on what you want/need...  I suggest not worrying too much about themes.
[11:36] <triple-15> #yogyakarta
[11:36] <papul> any one using a mac theme here?
[11:36] <coz_> ubuntu51,  changing the gdm ...as i mentioned..isnt difficult just a pain in the butt :)
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> papul:  seen them in the repos.. and basically hated them all. :)
[11:36] <MauritianGuy> what was the ubuntu off topic channel called again
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> !ot
[11:36] <papul> mee too
[11:36] <MauritianGuy> i mean i cant join it
[11:37] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: in a way it's a bit silly to put  the old GDM  on in Karmic, in my opinion anyway,  may as well just use KDM instead, oh and sure that can get themed, I just have never bothered myself
[11:37] <rww> MauritianGuy: typing "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" doesn't work?
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> man ubottu  is a realy good bot
[11:37] <Dr_Willis_> set auto login,.  :) gdm just blinks and logs in
[11:37] <syockit> MauritianGuy: please register your nick
[11:37] <ubuntu51> kdmgdm is really working in my new ubuntu? what do u think
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> i did not put the - inbetween lol
[11:37] <syockit> oh
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> i am der
[11:38] <PFA> hey, what's the name of the gnome power monitor thing?
[11:38] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: I don't understand
[11:38] <ubuntu51> kdm
[11:38] <hiexpo> daughter20
[11:38] <luisgmarine> Hello
[11:38] <skiller> hi
[11:39] <ubuntu51> is really work in karmic
[11:39] <MauritianGuy> oh syockit  i think i did register my nick
[11:39] <coz_> ubuntu51,   are you on KDE?
[11:39] <ubuntu51> no
[11:39] <ubuntu51> gnomw
[11:39] <ubuntu51> gnome
[11:39] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: you  can try KDM, if you don't like it you can switch back to  the new GDM, or try using the old one.   plus KDM can be themed.   Only thing is KDM is a KDE app meaning it will want to put on quite a few things.
[11:39] <luisgmarine> I'm running Kubuntu and after my computer restarted, I can't change my resolution back to 1920 x 1080, and I'm stuck using this 420 x 300
[11:39] <falcongaze> hi
[11:39] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: if you haven't installed KDE stuff into Ubuntu/Gnome before
[11:39] <MauritianGuy> sup coz_
[11:39] <PFA> okay, never mind that, but how do i get to the equivalent of "run" in windows?
[11:39] <hiexpo> got a prob here i can not figure out with tucan manager was booting now i goofed it
[11:39] <coz_> ubuntu51, oh  ok... well  I like kde's login screen but  gdm is fine
[11:39] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  hey guy :)
[11:39] <syockit> PFA: alt-f2
[11:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  so did that work for you?
[11:40] <PFA> syockit: thanks
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: well GDM 2 isn't  when people want to theme it like the old one, such as this person
[11:40] <coz_> sebsebseb,  but is not hard to do
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: I wanted to do that, but KDM is fine for me
[11:40] <coz_> sebsebseb,  although you only get colour changes
[11:40] <coz_> with gdm
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: exactly only colour changes, not a proper theme, which is what people want
[11:41] <coz_> sebsebseb,  believe me I understand
[11:41] <luisgmarine> can anyon ehelp me change my resolution, It reset to a lower one and wont allow me to make changes
[11:41] <ubuntu51> what do u think
[11:41] <MauritianGuy> i didn't work coz_ there is an error with th3e letc/init.d/gdm stop part
[11:41] <ubuntu51> kdm is compatible to gnome
[11:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: yes
[11:41] <ubuntu51> ok
[11:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: you can log into Ubuntu/Gnome using KDM
[11:41] <ubuntu51> i try
[11:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy, mm   then you might have  to replace that with   service  gdm stop
[11:41] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  i got an error no such file or directory
[11:42] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  for which the nvidia driver package?
[11:42] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: when you install it, and it asks which to use, remember to put KDM
[11:42] <MauritianGuy> 190.53
[11:42] <hiexpo> hmm
[11:42] <Dr_Willis_> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' :) will make it ask if you want to change back
[11:43] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis_: yeah that I guess, or  ubuntu51 could uninstall it
[11:43] <eliof> eliof
[11:43] <Parsi> hwo can I reconfigute NetworkManager?
[11:43] <Parsi> *how
[11:43] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  I was afraid of that...for some reason some karmic systems are still using   "service  gdm  stop  or start or restart"   here it has reverted back to  /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:43] <Parsi> .networkmanager
[11:44] <Parsi> !networkmanager
[11:44] <skiller> some one uses bactrack??
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> skiller:  they giot their own support channel
[11:44] <MauritianGuy> i am not sure what u mean coz_
[11:44] <nastas> hi all
[11:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok the part I mentione that uses  /etc/init.d/gdm  stop   can be replace by      service gdm stop
[11:44] <syockit> Parsi: umm don't know if it will work: sudo service network-manager restart
[11:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy, so instead of   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  use        service gdm stop
[11:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  the rest of the  instructions should be the same
[11:46] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  also after you do the     sudo -i       you dont need to use sudo any longer   just type in the commands
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> so i just use service gdm stop as a command
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> kool
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> i'll just try that now coz the driver is still uninstall is that kool
[11:46] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  yes where I said to use   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  you will now use     service  gdm stop   instead
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> its a GOOD idea to get in the habbit of using the 'service' command
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> forget about /etc/init.d/XXXXXX
[11:47] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  no longer works on this clean install
[11:47] <ectospasm> I'm SOOOO glad Debian/Ubuntu decided to add the service command!
[11:47] <brijith> Hello friends ,Evolution can not connect to Gmail behind a  proxy server
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_> ectospasm:  But im not sure hiow it compares to the simallery named command in other disrtos. :)
[11:48] <MauritianGuy> how do i know if it worked coz_
[11:48] <ectospasm> brijith: is that a question or a statement
[11:48] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  you wont get an error :)
[11:48] <ectospasm> Dr_Willis_: from my limited usage of it in Ubuntu, it seems the same... not sure about chkconfig though.
[11:48] <MauritianGuy> kool than i got like a list of weird stuff i guess it worked then
[11:49] <coz_> I know that on this system ...after several updates....service gdm   no longer works   only /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:49] <brijith> ectospasm: I can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server in access Internet
[11:49] <ectospasm> brijith: I don't know Evolution, sorry.  Can you access Gmail with a web browser?
[11:50] <Parsi> syockit: network-manager start/running, process 6674
[11:51] <brijith> ectospasm: YEs I can access gmail through browser
[11:52] <ectospasm> brijith: using the proxy?
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: yes
[11:52] <hiexpo> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'AnonymousDownload'
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: I can see prosy settings in evolution
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: but it is not working even if I set those settings
[11:53] <ectospasm> brijith: I dunno, I don't use Evolution
[11:53] <brijith> ectospasm: ok no problem
[11:54] <brijith> I can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server for access Internet
[11:55] <syockit> Parsi: so do you have the network interface managed yet?
[11:55] <Parsi> syockit: no, and I don't know how to
[11:55] <luisgmarine> hello guys.  After I restarted my computer, I'm stuck in a 640x480 resolution.  But going through the menues I can't seem to change it back, any suggestions?
[11:57] <syockit> Parsi: was it like that all along, or did it just suddenly become like that?
[11:57] <helboy> ubuntu hungary?
[11:58] <LjL> !hu
[11:58] <helboy> hungary chat?
[11:58] <brontosaurusrex> easy way to browse win network in xubuntu?
[11:58] <Parsi> syockit: yes, all the time since 9.10
[11:58] <bazhang> helboy, #ubuntu-hu
[11:58] <mondoshawan> hey all ... is there a texteditor who can read cryptet files ... ex: i have a textfile and with pgp i have now a textfil.pgp    now it would be cool that one editor asksme for password and schows me the textfile
[11:59] <luisgmarine> can anyone help me reset nvidia settings?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  you could move/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think if the settingsd are in there.
[12:00] <upgrayedd> how do get another channel??
[12:00] <Dr_Willis_> upgrayedd:   /join #funstuff
[12:00] <upgrayedd> kay thanks
[12:00] <ectospasm> what's in #funstuff
[12:00] <ectospasm> ?
[12:00] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, yeah still can't explain why my settings changed after a darn reboot
[12:01] <upgrayedd> how do search for channels?
[12:01] <ectospasm> upgrayedd: /list, and then duck.
[12:01] <Dr_Willis_> !channels
[12:01] <upgrayedd> thanx
[12:01] <luisgmarine> screw this I'm just going to re-install
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  sounds like windows training kicking in! :)
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  what got changed exactly?
[12:02] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, my resolution.  It's stuck at 640x480 and I can't change it
[12:03] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  that sounds like the nvidia drivers got broken or somthing
[12:03] <yofel> Ubuntu User Day starting now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays
[12:03] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, yeah going to try to re-install them
[12:03] <Flannel> yofel: Please don't advertise here.  #ubuntu-offtopic is appropriate, #ubuntu isn't.  Thanks
[12:03] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, I find KDE harder to use than GNOme for some reason.  They don't have an easy option to re-install like they do in synaptic
[12:03] <yofel> Flannel: ok, sorry
[12:05] <e3p3rry> #join ubuntu-classroom
[12:06] <hiexpo> having a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df794
[12:06] <domenico__> ciao ragà, sono nuovo
[12:06] <ubuntu51> any easy way to change login screen in karmic
[12:06] <Batduck1969> #ubuntu-classroom
[12:07] <domenico__> ma qui siete italiani?
[12:07] <ubuntu51> i can't change my login screen
[12:07] <ubuntu51> i can't install old gdm
[12:07] <ubuntu51> what i can do to change login screen
[12:07] <domenico__> Who is italian here?
[12:07] <rww> ubottu: it | domenico__
[12:07] <coz_> ubuntu51,    gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties    choose the theme  then reboot
[12:08] <domenico__> ok grazie
[12:08] <jiohdi> anyone know why UNR cannot connect to ubuntu one... says that a newer version of the server is needed?
[12:08] <neil_d> My raid1 setup doesn't appear to be correct... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid as degraded :(  it leaves the only HDD as a spare :(  what can I do about this?
[12:08] <swiftarrow> Hi!  I installed 9.10 on my Inspiron 1100, and now it's hanging a lot.  How can I fix it?
[12:09] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: is there anything in /var/log/messages which may indicate the problem?
[12:09] <hiexpo> swiftarrow, - did you update
[12:09] <Ven]n> hi
[12:10] <Ven]n> how do I skip the network manager asking for password for keyring to connect to wifi?
[12:10] <swiftarrow> hiexpo, I did a fresh install
[12:10] <saftsack> hey, how can i reinitialize alsa? i have a new soundcard but all configuration files are for the old one :(
[12:10] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'll take a look
[12:10] <hiexpo> i tried that and rm -r it
[12:10] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, what should I look for?
[12:11] <coz_> saftsack,  I think    /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd look for any kernel panics, or any other message just prior to a restart.
[12:11] <hiexpo> oh sorry was talking about somrthing else
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: the exact form is variable.
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: this also assumes that /var/log/messges captures the problem )-;
[12:12] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'm booting it right now
[12:12] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd recommend using vim (VIMproved) to look at the logs, for syntax highlighting (vim -R /var/log/messages)
[12:12] <ubuntu51> can't enabled to locate
[12:13] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, will it still be there after a boot?
[12:13] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: it should be... it's dmesg that gets wiped on boot
[12:14] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: many times problems like this don't show up in /var/log/messages, so this really is a shot in the dark.
[12:14] <saftsack> coz_, i did a reboot but i cant run alsamixer as root
[12:14] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I have messages and messages.1, which one?
[12:14] <coz_> mm
[12:14] <saftsack> modules are loaded correctly (emu10k1)
[12:14] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: messages will be the most recent
[12:16] <do0ob> hi
[12:16] <do0ob> is there anything like this for gnome?  http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=118823&file1=118823-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Leo-like-bespin+pack
[12:17] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I can't find where it must have frozen...
[12:18] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I see a lot of "Unable to read EDID bloc." errors
[12:18] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd find where syslog restarts (go to the end of the file and work up), and see if you find any clues just above that.  This is not an exact science, so there
[12:18] <hiexpo> having a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df794
[12:18] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'm not sure what those are, are those in some kernel module?
[12:19] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, i guess, it says "Username kernel: numbers: i2c-adapter itc-0: unable to read EDID block"
[12:20] <hat> hi all! does anybody know if there is an ext3 build of ubuntu 9.10? i'm having problems with ext4.. :(
[12:20] <neil_d> if I have a raid1 setup mounted as "/"... and I unplug a drive (when off).. shouldn't the computer still boot?
[12:20] <Vincent_k> why isnt acpi-cpufreq present in karmic
[12:21] <ectospasm> hmmm, you've got a problem with i2c... that's not good.
[12:21] <Vincent_k> the module
[12:21] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: ^^^
[12:21] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, pardon my ignorance... what's i2c?
[12:21] <Vincent_k> i have a centrino notebook
[12:21] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  you could tell the installer/partiomner to use ext3 if you wanted to
[12:22] <hat> Dr_Willis_: how would i do that? i'm not really familiar with messing with the partitions manually..
[12:22] <ectospasm> i2c (I squared C) is a signaling protocol on your motherboard, used for things like temperature sensors
[12:22] <Vincent_k> the funny thing is that the scaling applet in ubuntu seem to scale without any acpi module loaded
[12:22] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: ^^^
[12:22] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  just make some ext3 partitons and tell the installer to mount them as / and /home if you wanted both.
[12:23] <ekpyrotic> Hey guys need a hand, I'm instlling Ubuntu to a USB, how big should the USB be?
[12:23] <hat> Dr_Willis_: how would i do that?!
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  dont forget to make a swap partition also.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  the installer has a partioner tool. time to check it out.. or use gparted befor starting the installer.
[12:24] <arand_> ekpyrotic: As in a liveUSB, persisten or a normal diskinstall.. on a stick?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis_> hat:   the custom partioning   option in the installer lets you select where to mouint things
[12:24] <hat> Dr_Willis_: ok thanks very much..
[12:24] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: you may want to scour Launchpad to see if anyone has filed a bug on it
[12:25] <Vincent_k> anyone? what modules do you use?
[12:25] <iflema> hat problem with ubuntu and ext4 or with another distro accessing ubuntus ext4?
[12:25] <ekpyrotic> I assum I can install liveUSB from the disk, right? So, liveUSB. I can install software?
[12:25] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ok.  I'm looking through messages to see if anything else looks suspect
[12:26] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: using vim will really help, because downright errors will show up in red
[12:26] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: "aptitude -y install vim" if you haven't already
[12:26] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ok, thanks! I'll get vim then
[12:30] <johntramp> hi.
[12:30] <ekpyrotic> Questions about LiveUSB: will I be able to install software from the software centre (I can't do that just booting from disc).
[12:30] <johntramp> is there a way to have make a notification even triggered by anther machine on the network
[12:30] <ectospasm> ekpyrotic: I think you can, you need to make sure you've got enough room on the USB thumb drive though
[12:31] <johntramp> is it libnotify which shows up when i change from power to battery for eg
[12:31] <Craig_Dem> libnotify provides the notifications on the desktop, yes,
[12:32] <johntramp> ok
[12:32] <ekpyrotic> ectoplasm, if I buy a 6gb usb will that be adaquate?
[12:32] <johntramp> so is there a way to broadcast an event on the network to show up on libnotify
[12:32] <ajhavery> could you suggest a mp3 player for kde
[12:32] <ajhavery> ?
[12:32] <johntramp> amarok
[12:33] <ajhavery> amarok can't import from    other filesysytems on the hard drive
[12:33] <ajhavery> i have windows 7 installed on one partition and my music collection is in windows
[12:33] <SwianX> rythmbox
[12:33] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, does it only sho errors on /var/messages?
[12:34] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'm browsing /media/KING/messages
[12:34] <swiftarrow> and it's all one color
[12:34] <ajhavery> so i want a mp3 player which could import media libraray from windows
[12:34] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: what, vim?  You'll have to tell vim you're reading a messages log
[12:34] <SwianX> ajharvey I do that with rythmbox
[12:34] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: try ":set filetype messages"
[12:34] <viliny> Hey! Anyone know how i can get rid of this: E: grub-pc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:34] <viliny> E: grub2: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured - it comes up every time i install something :/
[12:34] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: and ":syntax on"
[12:35] <swiftarrow> unknown option: messages
[12:35] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ^^^
[12:35] <ajhavery> thanx
[12:35] <Igramul> Hi, on http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/asterisk-chan-capi I can see that CAPI support for the asterisk PBX needs asterisk 1.4. However, that is not available. Is there somewhere CAPI support for the current asterisk version (i.e. 1.6)?
[12:36] <ajhavery> bur rythmbox works well on gnome
[12:36] <ajhavery> does it perorm well on kde also?
[12:36] <Dynetrekk> hi, any filezilla users here? I have problems connecting to a server, and I suspect filezilla tries to use FTP rather than SFTP... how can I make sure it uses sftp?
[12:36] <SwianX> I don't use kde so I don't know
[12:36] <SwianX> but give it a try
[12:36] <supernapalm> hey I'm pretty much at a dead end, is anyone here familiar with Usenet? Specificaly Newshosting
[12:37] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, got it.  setfiletype messages
[12:37] <ajhavery> ok
[12:37] <rt2570> hi anybody got any luck with an wifi usb stick with rt2570 chipset ... I tried all kinds of howto's and ndiswrapper stuff etc ...
[12:37] <Igramul> supernapalm, do You want to host a nntp server?
[12:37] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Go to the site manager and configure it to SFTP ther.
[12:37] <rt2570> .
[12:37] <Tayl> there.*
[12:37] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: what do you mean by "site manager"? is it a setting in filezilla?
[12:37] <supernapalm> I have really bad downloading speeds, my average is supposed to be 600kbps but it's 30kbps MAX right now...
[12:38] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: File >> Site Manager
[12:38] <rt2570> I got ubuntu 9.10 it works sometimes and sometimes it justs disconnects ? it's a sweex lc100060 usb stick
[12:38] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, it's just coloured stuff... all the numbers are read, but no whole lines. Even the ones that I told you about.
[12:38] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Create a new site connection profile to the FTP/SFTP you're trying to connect to.
[12:39] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Just be sure to change the servertype to SFTP.
[12:39] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: I'll look into it, thanks.
[12:39] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: You're welcome.
[12:40] <supernapalm> downloading things through my browser is fine, but the Usenet thing is god awfuly slow, using Alt Binz as the program
[12:40] <supernapalm> I've tried the alt ports that Newshosting suggests but no difference
[12:41] <supernapalm> am I better off going to another channel that deals with newsgroups? I have no clue where to get my problem answered, and Newshosting is taking ages to reply to my email
[12:42] <JHPryke> Hey, im trying to install the beta version for my graphics driver, its a .run file so i type in sudo sh ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.30-pkg1.run.... it loads up fine but says i need to kill X Server to install, any thoughts on this?
[12:43] <llutz> !info lxde-common
[12:43] <sebsebseb> supernapalm: ##networking  ##linux  maybe I don't know
[12:43] <Xfact> can anyone tell me what is gnome display manager?
[12:43] <sebsebseb> supernapalm: maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <llutz> Xfact: gdm, the graphical "login-manager"
[12:44] <Xfact>  llutz: updating gdm to the latest is important?
[12:44] <supernapalm> well I'll give it a try, I'm trying to download a 16gb file(s) and 30kbps speed isn't gonna cut it for me lol
[12:44] <girirken> Having problem with flash player in youtube. Ubuntu Karmic, FF 3.5.7, flash 10,0,42,34 installed. Clicking on any button doesnt work, flash becomes unresponsive. Only reloading all the pages (and sometimes restarting FF) fix this.
[12:44] <sebsebseb> Xfact: the default log in screen for Ubuntu, which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:44] <Xfact> sebsebseb: 9.10
[12:44] <girirken> It happens after using youtube a few times, the problem doesnt happen right away.
[12:45] <sebsebseb> girirken: ah yes Firefox Flash issues's you can try another browser that uses the same Flash such as galeon and Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[12:45] <sebsebseb> )
[12:45] <Xfact> after updating gdm my computer is getting inaccessible :(
[12:45] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: worked great, thanks!
[12:45] <girirken> sebsebseb: so its a known issue?
[12:45] <Tr1n_> girken:  I'm on Karmic, my flash shound disappears in all browsers after a random amount of time
[12:45] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Glad to be of help =)
[12:45] <sebsebseb> girirken: yes Firefox Flash issues are quite known in Ubuntu,  since Flash is closed source and so on
[12:46] <sebsebseb> girirken: there's also Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives, but might not be good enough for your Flash useage
[12:46] <Xfact> anyone can help on gdm?
[12:46] <girirken> oh I see... well maybe i'll have a look then, thanks
[12:46] <sebsebseb> Xfact: not sure, but you could use KDM instead for example :)
[12:46] <sebsebseb> Xfact: ,but you now can't log in using GDM?
[12:47] <girirken> oh also on another topic, can anyone tell me about, if in the login screen, I choose console login... how in the world can I go back to kdm/gdm/etc ?
[12:47] <JHPryke> How would i disable X-Server, so i can run my graphics driver install?
[12:48] <sebsebseb> girirken: probably some other way as well, but turn the computer off and on again?
[12:48] <girirken> yes i know it but its gotta be another way
[12:48] <Xfact> After updating gdm, at the position of login screen, everything is flickering (monitor or my keyboard, mouse, and cup lights...!) horribly!
[12:48] <TeLLuS> girirken: exit  ?
[12:48] <girirken> running startx or anyth like that doesnt solve it because it enters with my user already
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: ok
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: can you log into Ubuntu from GDM though?
[12:49] <Xfact> so I am currently using the older version of gdm and it's working fairly..yet
[12:49] <girirken> TeLLuS: exit just goes to the console login
[12:49] <iflema> girirken im assuming your on 64bit? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html extract and put it in /home/[whatever]/.mozilla/plugins mae the folder plugins yoursel if does not exist..mozilla in a
[12:49] <girirken> iflema: nope, 32bit
[12:49] <TeLLuS> girirken: Did you wait a few seconds?
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: using the older version of GDM is a bit silly in my opinion, since KDM is good and can be installed and used from the repo :)
[12:50] <llutz> JHPryke: sudo service gdm stop
[12:50] <girirken> TeLLuS: well actually i use ctrl+d to exit but its the same right
[12:50] <iflema> girirken ooo. sorry
[12:50] <TeLLuS> girirken: Yes. Is gdm or kdm still running?
[12:50] <JHPryke> Thank you sir
[12:50] <Xfact> sebsebseb: ubuntu is gdm based, kdm will not harm it?
[12:50] <girirken> TeLLuS: no its not running
[12:50] <Xfact> I mean gnome based
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Xfact: it's a KDE app, meaning if you haven't installed those before, it will want to put a bit of KDE stuff on
[12:50] <llutz> Xfact: you also can use slim or xdm
[12:50] <girirken> i think i have to try it
[12:50] <girirken> ok let me try it
[12:51] <sebsebseb> Xfact: llutz  there's slim ,but that's not in the repo, and apparnatly  xdm isn't that good
[12:51] <ectospasm> xdm is fugly
[12:51] <llutz> sebsebseb: what do you miss with xdm?
[12:51] <TeLLuS> girirken: Then start it with.. sudo service gdm/kdm start
[12:51] <sebsebseb> llutz: I haven't used it properly,  I think I had it enabled once  in Ubuntu or a vm or whatever can't quite remember
[12:52] <Xfact> well, finally I question is xdm, kdm, gdm theses apps are not that important to update?
[12:52] <sebsebseb> llutz: pretty sure someone told me on IRC that it wasn't that good though,  or something like that
[12:52] <Xfact> *my
[12:52] <llutz> sebsebseb: so FUD, thx
[12:52] <sebsebseb> llutz: it's more limiting in what it can do than GDM and KDM or something like that
[12:52] <ectospasm> llutz: last I used xdm, it still used Motif
[12:52]  * ectospasm shudders
[12:52] <SirNothus> Hmm, I think I broke update-grub
[12:52] <llutz> sebsebseb: it does what it was developed for: manage user-logins
[12:53] <kraut> moin
[12:53] <fwaokda> anyone here know how I can install the sdk to ubuntu 9.10 through terminal? I don't want eclipse btw
[12:53] <sebsebseb> Xfact: just get the security updates from the Ubuntu repo, and useually you will be fine
[12:53] <sebsebseb> Xfact: well the updates you get are only security updates,  or useually only security updates
[12:53] <setuid> How do I play ASF video (in a .wmv file)? xine, mplayer, vlc don't do it after installing all of the available codecs
[12:54] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | setuid
[12:54] <Xfact> well, it would be awesome if ubuntu has any 'system restore' or that kind of apps, that helps to put everything in previous state before the error occurs.. (these is a nice feature of windows)
[12:54] <llutz> ectospasm: who cares
[12:54] <sebsebseb> setuid: think something in medibuntu for that
[12:54] <SirNothus> I don't think it should run for over 1 minute at 90% CPU, and I don't think my menu.lst file should be 3MB in size..
[12:54] <ectospasm> llutz: like I said, it's fugly.  Matter of taste, really
[12:54] <ectospasm> It's got the same basic functionality of gdm and kdm
[12:54] <ectospasm> ...may be more or less configurable, I'm not sure.
[12:56] <llutz> ectospasm: as i said: it manages user-logins, not more not less. so it might be an alternative to those, who do not need all that pointless fancy graphics-foo
[12:56] <sebsebseb> llutz: KDM is also much  more used  than xdm by Ubuntu users, so probably  another reason why it's better to recommend KDM
[12:57] <sebsebseb> llutz: altough if someone said that about  xchat  and Konversation,  saying xchat would be better to recommend, beause it's more used than Konversation,   I woudn't agree
[12:57] <llutz> sebsebseb: i won't recommend kdm to people not using KDE
[12:57] <hyperstream> Gnome is fine :)
[12:57]  * SirNothus recommends Slackware
[12:58] <sebsebseb> llutz: I think recommending KDM is fine, as long as it's made clear to them, that it will put on other KDE stuff and quite a bit of it, if they haven't installed KDE apps into Ubuntu/Gnome before
[12:59] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: well that new GDM 2 isn't for quite a lot of us
[13:00] <ranjan> hello every body .. does any body know how to apply patch ... on xserver
[13:00] <ranjan> as
[13:00] <setuid> sebsebseb, Thanks for the link... however, nothing in medibuntu plays asf ither
[13:00] <setuid> s/ither/either/
[13:00] <ranjan> the path that is avilable on http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[13:00] <sebsebseb> setuid: well propritary codecs
[13:00] <sebsebseb> !codecs
[13:01] <llutz> setuid: isn't asf just a file, containing a link to the "real" media-file?
[13:01] <sebsebseb> setuid: probalby something for Desktop Linux that can do it, but if not well,  you could  Wine some Windows program for it I expect
[13:02] <setuid> sebsebseb, Same thing, those codecs (in ubuntu-restricted-extras) does not include an asf codec
[13:02] <girirken> so in the login screen I opted for console login... KDM is still a process, but alt+f7 is blank. typing EXIT just goes back to the console login. How do I go back to X?
[13:02] <setuid> sebsebseb, it's a Microsoft-provided .wmv file, in an executable file, which is ASF encoded
[13:02] <acicula> asf is a container, not a codec
[13:02] <sebsebseb> setuid: by the way it's possible to do WMP under Wine
[13:02] <sebsebseb> setuid: 10 and 11 yeah
[13:02] <acicula> mplayer -playlist should be able to deal with it?
[13:02] <sebsebseb> and older
[13:04] <dayo> is this usr day?
[13:04] <sebsebseb> setuid: plus foobar2000 can play pretty much anything I think,  or is that just for music hrm, anyway you can Wine that
[13:04] <ikonia> ?
[13:04] <BlessJah> hi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from kubuntu/ubuntu with installed kde (has to be 9.04), could someone pastebin it?
[13:04]  * iflema hybrid theory
[13:05] <girirken> no one?
[13:05] <SirNothus> Can anyone spot the error in my grub conf file? http://www.madmonks.org/~mattw/menu.lst
[13:05] <ikonia> no one what ?
[13:05] <BlessJah> no one?
[13:05] <girirken> my problem is above
[13:05] <acicula> girirken: try logout instead of exit?
[13:05] <girirken> hmmm let me see
[13:06] <ikonia> SirNothus: what problem are you having ?
[13:06] <girirken> no logout and exit are the same
[13:06] <setuid> girirken, No they are not
[13:06] <acicula> girirken: weird
[13:06] <girirken> i just tried
[13:06] <girirken> ok let me see i'll have to leave irc wait
[13:06] <girirken> i tried on the 2nd console
[13:06] <SirNothus> ikonia: update-grub runs forever
[13:06] <acicula> is X still running?
[13:06] <lolnic_> hi, I just upgraded to 10.04 and NetworkManager isn't working properly. I suspect that it hasn't found my wireless card, what can i do?
[13:06] <sebsebseb> lolnic_: #ubuntu+1 for 10.04
[13:06] <acicula> lolnic_: ask in #ubuntu+1, lucid is not supported here
[13:07] <ikonia> SirNothus: how do you know that's a error in the menu.lst ?
[13:07] <bazhang> dayo, in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[13:07] <lolnic_> okay, thanks, sorry
[13:07] <SirNothus> ikonia: Umm, take a look at the file I just linked and take a wild guess ;-)
[13:07] <girirken> no, logout went back to console login
[13:07] <acicula> girirken: is X still running as a process?
[13:08] <acicula> girirken: you could try stopping and starting gdm
[13:08] <acicula> or kdm, whichever you are using
[13:08] <girirken> kdm is
[13:08] <girirken> kdm is running
[13:08] <dayo> bazhang: ok thanks
[13:08] <acicula> yeah, and is X?
[13:08] <girirken> well if the X process is called X anything, no it isnt
[13:09] <acicula> girirken: stop kdm, sudo service stop kdm
[13:09] <acicula> err service kdm stop
[13:09] <acicula> and then start it again with start
[13:10] <girirken> ok it worked but thats not very user friendly
[13:10] <girirken> was it supposed to be like this?
[13:10] <girirken> or maybe its because this is Kubuntu?
[13:10] <brontosaurusrex> easy way to browse win network in xubuntu?
[13:11] <brontosaurusrex> thunar?
[13:11] <TimeFX> I am using Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic, and I have a problem with sound in Gnome, my snd card is detected by alsa and but I only get dummy output for the sound settings in Gnome, any ideas? I ve tried various guides on the web with no avail.
[13:11] <acicula> girirken: dunno, normally people dont go from kdm to an old school console
[13:11] <sebsebseb> brontosaurusrex: If you don't get a proper answer here soon you can try #xubuntu
[13:11] <girirken> bback
[13:11] <brontosaurusrex> sebsebseb: thanks
[13:12] <sebsebseb> brontosaurusrex: np or of course just go there now and try :D
[13:12] <acicula> you'd expect that you logged out kdm is restarted though, yeh
[13:12] <wers> i just installed firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa. can't find a way to run it though. any idea? :)
[13:13] <johntramp> what package does notify-send come from?
[13:13] <llutz> wers: alt-f2: firefox-3.6
[13:13] <acicula> johntramp: dpkg-query -S notify-send
[13:13] <wers> llutz, that's what i thought too. doesnt work though
[13:14]  * SirNothus wonders where ikonia went..
[13:14] <johntramp> acicula: i dont have it yet
[13:14] <SirNothus> Should I have mentioned that was a 3M file?
[13:14] <llutz> wers: dpkg -L firefox-3.6.... | grep bin
[13:14] <johntramp> i want to know where it is to install it
[13:15] <wers> llutz, not installed according to it. synaptic says otherwise.. hmmm
[13:15] <acicula> johntramp: then you have to use google to dig it up, googling for the term and ubuntu should land you on the right package, alternatively you can just run the command and see if a package is suggested by ubuntu
[13:15] <llutz> wers: use the real packagename
[13:15] <llutz> wers: dpkg -l firefox*|grep ^ii
[13:16] <setuid> sebsebseb, I give up... fscking Microsoft.
[13:16] <wers> llutz, looks like it's really firefox-3.6. tried sudo apt-get install too. said it's installed
[13:16] <setuid> sebsebseb, Just blogged about it: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-stillpropagating-the-malware-problem
[13:17] <sebsebseb> setuid: well I gave two suggestions for maybe getting  it working, here's another,  got a feeling you won't like it much, but Windows virtual machine
[13:17] <setuid> er: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-still-propagating-the-malware-problem
[13:17] <Night_Elf> hi all. I'm installing 'squeeze' on a USB via debootstrap. When it comes to grub, I get the message "can not find list of partitions".  On /boot/grub/  ( /boot is a different partition, other than / )  there's no menu.lst file. What can I do ?
[13:17] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: #debian
[13:18] <setuid> sebsebseb, I run VMware already... just ridiculous that I have to unpack and executable to get to a .wmv file, which is ASF-encoded, which I can't play anyway
[13:18] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: well, grub issues are the same in both, not to say identical.
[13:18] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: maybe so, but your still on Debian so yeah #debian
[13:19] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: however  i'll do this for you, even though you should be getting Debian support in there really
[13:19] <sebsebseb> !grub | Night_Elf
[13:19] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: I am there. Just noone seems to either know it, either the ones who do are away :/
[13:20] <Night_Elf> !grub2
[13:22] <Mist_> Hi, I am installing ubuntu netbook remix on a Samsung NC10. Isntalling from an USB drive pen. Problem is it is taking tons of time. Editing the partition tables etc. takes 10-15 minutes seraching the partitions beteen editing them. Have I missed specify some boot install option, or is it the USB drive?
[13:22] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: oh well. grub2 doesn't have a menu.lst
[13:23] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: yes that's right
[13:23] <Mist_> Each install step is taking 5-10 minutes between them also. (it is 9.10 btw)
[13:23] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: I thought you meant Grub to begin with, but no you wanted Grub 2 factoid anyway uhmm.  it's some other file  you  need to edit, also you can use #grub for support with Grub 2
[13:23] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: thanks for the hints. I'm following them to see how these things have changed
[13:24] <Mist_> I used the USB startup disk creator in Kubuntu 9.10 (this box) to make the usb install disk btw.
[13:24] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: actually I didn't know about grub and grub2. Only now I became aware
[13:24] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: np even though you shouldn't of really been getting help in here since on Debian :D
[13:25] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: lol. ok I'm shutting up. Yet thanks :)
[13:25] <adam> anyone good with power management?
[13:25] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: well some people might have a little problem with it, anyway have fun with Grub 2
[13:26] <jiraaya> Im using ubuntu 9.10 on an intel motherboard. Seems like i have the "black screen of death". I tried the i915.modeset=0 but it did not work. When i boot from my live Cd, there is no such balck screen. is there anything that i can do to make solve it?
[13:27] <adam_> need some help with power management
[13:27] <Guest2085> First time useing irc!
[13:27] <Jackzor> WIn
[13:27] <sebsebseb> !hi | Jackzor
[13:30] <perlsyntax_> Does anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu 9.10?
[13:30] <leg> anyone here that wants to help me with oidentd? getting ERROR : NO-USER with about everything I do
[13:30] <miki> i cant get sound thorugh my headphones nor can i speak through my microphone.. is there some sort of sound driver im missing?
[13:31] <jasonmchristos1> hi people i just ripped a cd using cdparanoia and now i have a wav file for each sone how do i use the flac command to encode them all instead of typing each filename input
[13:31] <adam_> miki, do you hear sound at all?
[13:32] <Jackzor> What is my password exactly?
[13:32] <miki> yes i do. adam_
[13:32] <Jackzor> To register or whatever
[13:32] <miki> i cant get it externally
[13:32] <miki> or use a microphone
[13:32] <sebsebseb> Jackzor: #freenode for help with that kind of stuff
[13:32] <sebsebseb> !register
[13:32] <adam_> miki, then its a setting in your sound properties
[13:32] <sutek> hello, I search for a program to connect to a dedicated server from OVH. Remotedesktop Client program is not 100% compatible
[13:32] <miki> really?
[13:32] <miki> I'm tryed, not sure what to change though..
[13:33] <adam_> miki, are you using gnome or kubuntu?
[13:33] <miki> gnome
[13:33] <k3rn> hi
[13:33] <jasonmchristos1> im trying to use flac command from command line to batch encode wavs
[13:34] <jasonmchristos1> i understand how to do it one at a time but how do i batch it
[13:34] <adam_> miki, right click your speaker, and go into the hardware...
[13:34] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac foo bar; done
[13:34] <rivero> esto k es cjoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:34] <miki> which speaker?
[13:34] <adam_> miki, make sure that your input is your microphone
[13:34] <adam_> miki, the speaker up in the right hand corner of your xsession
[13:35] <miki> yeah theres no hardware tho
[13:35] <adam_> miki, sound preferences, input tab
[13:35] <miki> ohh prefences?
[13:35] <miki> lol sorry.
[13:35] <k3rn> i installed karmic on usb hard drive. it works on all systems i tested it on. so my goal is to get it to boot on an intel macbook. anyone got his working? i am wresteling with that for days now :/. any help appreciated!
[13:35] <jasonmchristos1> llutz: i dont understand
[13:36] <miki> ill try them all..
[13:36] <root> hi guys
[13:36] <root> how are u
[13:36] <jasonmchristos1> llutz: what is foo bar
[13:36] <Guest90020> who is using bt 4
[13:36] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: your options
[13:37] <Jackzor> Gah
[13:37] <Jackzor> Is my nickname already taken or something?
[13:37] <miki> nothing
[13:37] <Benwa> Hi, i want to re-install ubuntu on my computer but a torrent is still running. How can i keep it for my fresh install. I don't want to download it again, it's a huge file. 87% for the moment.
[13:37] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: your wav-filenames will be stored in $i, so "do something" with it
[13:37] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu?
[13:38] <jrib> Benwa: why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?
[13:38] <perlsyntax> Or what software i need.
[13:38] <adam_> miki, does the input say microphone1?
[13:38] <Benwa> jrib>  because it is unstable right nox, i made too many bad things...
[13:38] <johntramp> have any of you used socat before?
[13:38] <Benwa> *now
[13:38] <jrib> Benwa: do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:39] <miki> HDA ATI.. HDA ATI... REALTEK.. etc
[13:39] <Benwa> the question is not do i have to re-install ubuntu, but how do i keep this unfinished torrent.
[13:39] <miki> thats it?
[13:39] <Benwa> jrib>  yes
[13:39] <k3rn> boot ubuntu from usb on mac -> anyone??
[13:39] <johntramp> i have a port set up using socat -u tcp4-listen:6666,fork,bind=127.0.0.1 exec:/home/john/notify-remote.sh
[13:39] <neil_d> perlsyntax: I don't know exactly.. but have you tried 'dd' to create a .iso and write that to a CD-R?
[13:39] <iflema>  Benwa youll need the stub or try to remember the keywords you used to search or what site it came from.... easy enough and move the files
[13:39] <johntramp> how do i now send something to that port?
[13:39] <thijs> any of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?
[13:39] <llutz> johntramp: cat file| nc host port
[13:39] <jrib> Benwa: then just reinstall ubuntu and use the same /home partition...
[13:40] <Benwa> iflema>  i still have the torrent i downloaded on internet.
[13:40] <johntramp> llutz: ok ill try that, thanks
[13:40] <Benwa> jrib>  no, i want to rebuild my /home
[13:40] <jrib> Benwa: make sure you don't reformat the /home partition.  Why?
[13:40] <Benwa> i want a fresh install
[13:40] <adam_> miki, i have mine on microphone1
[13:40] <jrib> Benwa: create a new user and copy over the data you want then
[13:40] <miki> ok
[13:40] <Benwa> jrib>  'cause my config files suck
[13:41] <jrib> Benwa: see my last
[13:41] <perlsyntax> i don't have the wii yet.
[13:41] <iflema>  Benwa ok too easy.... when your up in new system.... put the 87% done files where the torrent app would downlad and itll pick up where it left off
[13:41] <miki> i have an inbulit mic on my notebook
[13:41] <miki> how can i get that to work
[13:41] <Benwa> iflema>  i try this, thanks
[13:41] <Nilu> Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. After this, the linux system has become very slow that I cannot happen to work in ubuntu. Can you please tell me what could be the reason?
[13:42] <sebsebseb> perlsyntax: As far as I know WII games are never meant to be copied
[13:42] <Jackzor> perlsyntax: You have to have a certain dvd drive to rip the games anyways. Do you have the right drive?  You need one of the following LG-8164b LG-8163b LG-8162b LG-8161b
[13:42] <jrib> Benwa: if all you want to do is reset your user configuration's then you don't need to reinstall at all, just create the new user
[13:43] <Jackzor> If I were you I would just toreent the games that you wish to back up.
[13:43] <Jackzor> Its easier
[13:43] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac <YOUR OPTIONS HERE> "$i" ; done                 got it?
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i do
[13:43] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  Jackzor  perlsyntax
[13:43] <Benwa> jrib>  yes i do know, but i have thousands of programs i do not need anymore, i just want a fresh install, my ubuntu is SO slow...
[13:43] <jrib> Benwa: ok
[13:44] <Benwa> jrib>  i use this ubuntu for years
[13:45] <adam_> miki, sorrry stepped away
[13:45] <sebsebseb> Nilu: maybe it's since you need to install a propritary graphics card driver
[13:46] <sebsebseb> Nilu: however quite a lot of people got issues after upgrading from 9.04
[13:46] <iflema> Benwa when the files are in place you start the torrent again... and itll pickup........
[13:46] <perlsyntax> you guys don't know much lol.
[13:46] <miki> ok...
[13:46] <AndreMorro[BR]> 1
[13:46] <Benwa> iflema>  thanks a lot
[13:46] <adam_> miki, the built in should work automatically. you may have to adjust the gain.
[13:46] <_nmap> Hi, i plug my celular phone on usb and the ubuntu dont mount the device for me... How can i do that manually?
[13:47] <miki> ive tryed
[13:47] <miki> ill try again..
[13:48] <fourshore> every now and then my computer would automatically scan my cd drive (although it is empty) and cause a lag on my computer. how do i fix this?
[13:49] <Dreamglider> _nmap,  can you see the phone with > lsusb ?
[13:50] <_nmap> Dreamglider, yes.   Bus 003 Device 014: ID 0421:0008 Nokia Mobile Phones
[13:50] <Dreamglider> _nmap,  try sudo fdisk -l
[13:51] <thijs> any of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?
[13:51] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ok. But, it used to work great with 9.04. Is it possible that some service might be causing this because the CPU runs to 100% usage quite often. That's odd and it's a dual core. In 'top', it shows only process that consumes most of the CPU and the root happens to be the owner of that.
[13:51] <chrisdone> how do you disable the horrible "minimize" animation on metacity?
[13:53] <_nmap> Dreamglider, have here /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 but i think no one is my phone...
[13:54] <_nmap> dmesg shows: [10410.128024] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 15
[13:54] <_nmap> [10410.352972] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[13:55] <syockit> oo didn't know there was usb for wine
[13:55] <sebsebseb> Nilu: stuff like that after 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades for quite a lot of people, things that worked fine in 9.04 not doing so in the upgrade
[13:55] <llutz> _nmap: most nokias have a mode switch when connecting to usb (pc-suite, usb-massstorage). checked that?
[13:55] <sebsebseb> Nilu: probably a good idea to clean install and try 9.10 like that
[13:56] <_nmap> llutz, yeap... i choose data transfer mode... Should i try another one?
[13:56] <sebsebseb> Nilu: plus that way well, Ext4 by default and Grub 2, not really that needed, but anyway
[13:56] <Dreamglider> _nmap, it should be on wither Datastorage or ask on conn.
[13:56] <llutz> _nmap: if you want to mount it, "usb-storage"
[13:57] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ok. Thnaks sebsebseb. :) .
[13:57] <Nilu> *Thanks
[13:57] <Dreamglider> _nmap, have a look at > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Transfer-Files-To-And-From-Your-Nokia-Phone-63116.shtml
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Nilu: seperate /homes can make clean installing and even distro hoping easier, and it's easier to one of those up your self when doing an install of Ubuntu
[13:58] <sebsebseb> Nilu: set one of those up.... above  and  np
[13:58] <_nmap> llutz, My phone is in portuguese. When i plug the usb cable i have 4 options. ( Pc Suite, Data Transfer, Image Printing, Media Player)
[13:58] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Will try that.
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Nilu: know how to make one?  and about good partition sizes?
[13:59] <Dreamglider> _nmap, try setting it to English language and see what is says
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Nilu: well if you got say an external hard disk you don't really need one,  since data can just be put on that
[13:59] <hyperstream> anyone here installed backtrack linux 4 along side ubuntu ?
[14:00] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Not really. But, I thought I would try to find out myself. But, if you can chip in that would be great. :) .
[14:00] <myk_robinson> been having a problem with YouTube and Firefox. Sometimes, when I click a link, I get an error about WATCH or RESULTS bin file or something to that nature, and i have to refresh several times, then it will work. This behaviour is not exhibited in Chrome, every link an every video works fine. This happens on my desktop and laptops. Any ideas?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: That's a distro that should not be used as a proper OS!
[14:00] <llutz> _nmap: so Data Transfer should be fine
[14:00] <Thoven78> Question: I created two shared folders, one on my desktop and the other one in my Laptop. However i can access the shared folder on the desktop from my laptop, but I can't access the shared folder on laptop from the desktop.
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Nilu: ok  you can first set up in gparted and finnish off in manual install telling to use as /home and Ext4 file system, or you can do in manual install.   10GB or so for / is good,  big seperate home, and a bit of SWAP
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Nilu: SWAP depends on RAM and if you want to hibernate and such
[14:01] <hyperstream> sebsebseb, thats your opinion. Alot of other would disagree, Is it true it should not be by your opinion or due to fact?, its fine to use as a OS for pentesting.
[14:01] <_nmap> If i remember well ubuntu mount automatically on data transfer mode other time
[14:01] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: yeah  security type purpouses,  and really it should only run as a Live CD for it's proper useage
[14:01] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: not be used as say an alternative to Windows, that's my point
[14:02] <hyperstream> sebsebseb, right now that we have cleared that up, i wish to join many many others in using it as a pentesting OS. dual boot pref with ubuntu
[14:02] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Ya I had something like this for 9.04.
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nilu: well  I assume you used the guided install for 9.04, meaning  your SWAP space should be a good size already
[14:03] <calrik> hi all not getting much luck in the vmware channel but hope somewhere here can help me, I just want to know the best practice to run vmware and load up virtual machines without have to use sudo every time?
[14:04] <hyperstream> calrik, sudo -i
[14:04] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ya.
[14:04] <hiexpo> has anyone else here had prob's with tucan manager
[14:04] <calrik> what does that do?
[14:04] <sebsebseb> nikolam: how big is your swap and how much RAM by the way?
[14:04] <hyperstream> gives you root terminal/shell
[14:04] <sebsebseb> nikolam: wrong one
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Nilu:  see above
[14:05] <kcg> hello there, just installed ubuntu on my laptop, thought would say hi here
[14:05] <jrib> calrik: you shouldn't need to sudo vmware
[14:05] <jrib> !vmware | calrik
[14:05] <Psyonara> Hi everyone. My Ubuntu installation started doing a weird thing today. When I load some web pages, external files (e.g. CSS, JS, etc) will not load. From what I can see, it's only when those files are from a subdomain. Any ideas? It does this in all browsers, but when I try on Windows, it works fine.
[14:05] <hyperstream> Psyonara, that is very strange.
[14:05] <calrik> jrib: I can load up vmware no problem but when I go to load the actually machines say permission denied, running vmware with sudo solves this problem
[14:06] <Psyonara> Yeah, dunno what to do...
[14:06] <Milp_main> When i do make to compile busybox, where does make create the output?
[14:06] <jrib> calrik: check ubottu's link.  Presumably you need to add your user to some group but I don't use vmware
[14:06] <calrik> jrib: I have chmod 755 the director the vm are stored in also
[14:06] <Psyonara> Examples are Adobe, Amazon, and IMDB. They all don't load with CSS.
[14:06] <calrik> ok ta I will have a look
[14:06] <fourshore> how do i eject a cd drive in ubuntu if the cd drive button does not work?
[14:06] <lunix> Hei people! I have a really strange problem and I hope someone here got a good answer to it.  I use firefox 3.5.7.  Ive got a newly installed Ubuntu 9.10 64bit installation.  quad processor and 4 gigs of ram.   When i go to a semi-heavy website (db.no) and open a few tabs.. 4 or more  firefox stops responding for a while and on system monitor onw or two of the cpu's are 100% while the two others are almost idle.. Flash is installed the ubuntu way an
[14:06] <ikonia> munz: in the source tree
[14:07] <hyperstream> Psyonara, something is blocking them, some software id assume
[14:07] <Theviking> anyone got a eee pc 1005ha? running ubuntu?
[14:07] <forceflow> Theviking: me
[14:07] <hyperstream> lunix, try the new google chrome browser (yes for linux) its great!
[14:07] <Nilu> sebsebseb: RAM : 2 GB, SWAP : 4 GB.
[14:07] <ikonia> lunix: flash is probably the problem there - flash is closed source and reacts different to different websites
[14:07] <iflema> Nilu if ya plan on staying... try 20+ gig for / (root) swap at least more than total physical ram and big /home partition. all these mount points can be moved/increased but best to cover it straight up.
[14:07] <ikonia> Milp_main: in the source tree is where the output is
[14:07] <sebsebseb> Nilu: good, yep that's  what it should be
[14:07] <Theviking> 9,10?-- forceflow
[14:07] <Milp_main> source tree?
[14:07] <Psyonara> hyperstream, not sure what it could be, I didn't install anything recently.
[14:08] <hyperstream> lunix, also try other browsers see if the problem is still around
[14:08] <looter> Hello,  I am having a slight problem with my xorg config.  In an attempt to fix the blank menus in Wine and Open Office in my Ubuntu 8.10 build I followed this tutorial.  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122695    However this morning I woke up and restarted the machine and ubuntu told me it was going to run in low graphics mode.  So i deleted teh lines in my xorg.conf that I had added from that forum post, the
[14:08] <looter> n restarted x again but still no luck.  I'm stuck in low graphics mode any suggestions?
[14:08] <FloodBot1> looter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: yes, where you are typing "make" why are you building busybox - it's in the ubuntu repos
[14:08] <kcg> i have a question, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doesn't appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it?
[14:08] <Milp_main> ikonia because i am building it for arm
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: you're cross-compiling it ?
[14:08] <Milp_main> ikonia yes
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: what cross-compiler are you using ?
[14:09] <sebsebseb> Nilu: you can keep the SWAP it made for you, when you re install,  just being clear in case you aren't sure.   it's probably also in an extended partition which is fine
[14:09] <DexterLB> I installed ubuntu karmic and got the kde packages as I always do
[14:09] <DexterLB> starting any kde app that uses sound (e.g. qt designer, system settings, kttsmgr) outputs this error and crashes: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei
[14:09] <DexterLB> smells like broken packages, what can I do?
[14:09] <FloodBot1> DexterLB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <Milp_main> ikonia: arm-none-linux-gnueabi
[14:09] <DexterLB> also, removing the xine backend causes the same error but for the gstreamer backend
[14:09] <ikonia> Milp_main: so what is your current host system, and whats you're target tripplet ?
[14:10] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Yes.
[14:10] <lunix> hyperstream, ikonia: Thanks for good advice! Ill try that. On the 32 bit installation I had before, this was not a problem.  But ill troulbeshoot it a bit by trying chrome and another flashplayer :)  Thanks a lot!
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia my host system is a VM runnin debian 5.0.0, and my target system is android
[14:10] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks anyway, will keep on trying.
[14:10] <ikonia> Milp_main: then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia i dont know any better support channels :(
[14:10] <ikonia> Milp_main: #debian
[14:10] <calrik> jrib: thanks I solved it turned out to be a permissions problem after all, I done chmod 775 but should have done it recursively :)
[14:10] <hyperstream> Psyonara, i couldnt imagen such an issue thats all, sorry mate
[14:10] <jrib> calrik: ak, ok
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia gonna go there, but i thought this was a pretty general linux question so i could aswell ask here
[14:11] <jrib> calrik: I guess you created the virtual machines as root then?
[14:11] <Psyonara> hyperstream, no worries, thanks. :)
[14:11] <ikonia> Milp_main: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[14:11] <nwillems> Hi, I'm looking for some help on configuring X/or which component it is that manages multi screen
[14:11] <hyperstream> Psyonara, to be honest id be doing a fresh install and get on these sites straight away and install stuff one by one till my setup is complete
[14:11] <Milp_main> ahh ok, thanks
[14:11] <ikonia> no problem
[14:11] <Milp_main> great, cant go on their channel for some reason
[14:11] <Milp_main> its probably full i guess
[14:11] <hyperstream> register your nickname?
[14:11] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks, might just try that...
[14:11] <hyperstream> i just joined its not full
[14:11] <DexterLB> hmm I'm using the unofficial kde repo
[14:11] <sebsebseb> Nilu: so just make the two partitions in manual,  i'll repeate.  10GB or so for  /   big seperate home and the Ext4 file system. and that's a good re install
[14:12] <Nilu> iflema: Ya understood. Will try reinstalling. Thanks anyways. :) .
[14:12] <hyperstream> Milp_main, register your nickname
[14:12] <ikonia> !register > Milp_main
[14:12] <hyperstream> !register | Milp_main
[14:12] <DexterLB> how can I downgrade ALL kde packages to the karmic native ones/
[14:12] <DexterLB> -/+?
[14:12] <Milp_main> thanks
[14:12] <AlBundy> what are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?
[14:13] <hyperstream> Psyonara, I had extreme laptop issues with 9.10 only thing that solved it was #ubuntu+1 (Developement next release 10.4 lucid) if you should find yourself banging you head agaisnt the wall
[14:13] <aftertaf> DexterLB: which source for your KDE?
[14:13] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Will do that. Thanks again. Anything else, I should take care of?
[14:13] <myk_robinson> if anyone's able to help with my Firefox/Youtube issue, here's a screen shot of what happens:   http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:13] <hyperstream> Psyonara, havnt had any issues with it so far
[14:13] <ikonia> hyperstream: advising 10.04 is not really acceptable, especially if it's for no specific reason
[14:13] <aftertaf> DexterLB : try the new 4.4 RC2 packages too
[14:13] <serpico> hi
[14:13] <elitedev> can anyone do me a quick favor? just need an ip address for a functioning dns server since my isp's is down. like opendns or something.
[14:14] <Psyonara> hyperstream, ok thanks. I'm still on 9.04, cuz I had problems with 9.10. Might have to try 10.04 then. Is yours relatively stable?
[14:14] <ikonia> elitedev: this is not an approprriate channel to ask
[14:14] <hyperstream> ikonia, its incase he spends tonight/tommorow with no luck.
[14:14] <ikonia> Psyonara: no it is not stable
[14:14] <ikonia> hyperstream: that's no reason to suggest 10.04
[14:14] <DexterLB> aftertaf: will they fix my problem?
[14:14] <llutz> elitedev: 4.4.4.2
[14:14] <hyperstream> Psyonara, havnt had an issue yet mate, and ive slammed it from pentesting to everyday home/office usuage.
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Nilu: which graphics card you got?   well  just make sure there isn't anything to install in  system > administration > hardware drivers  once on, and if there is well install graphics card driver for example. and get all the security updates of course.  and start installing whatever your going to install etc
[14:15] <aftertaf> DexterLB: one way to try : i'm on it and have no such issue man
[14:15] <AlBundy> what are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?
[14:15] <myk_robinson> elitedev: you can use OpenDNS  209.67.222.222 and 209.67.220.220
[14:15] <Psyonara> hyperstream, Ok, will consider it. I just find it strange that this problem comes up from one day to the next, without any major changes to the system.
[14:15] <hyperstream> ikonia, the amount of times its solved issues for people and/or been mentioned as a solution :)
[14:15] <ikonia> Psyonara: I strongly advise you not to upgrade to 10.04 without reason, it may be viewed as stable for someone, but it may not be for you, it is in development and a moving target and can break at any point in the development cycly
[14:15] <erUSUL> AlBundy: System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers
[14:15] <ikonia> hyperstream: no - blindly recommending development releases is not acceptable
[14:15] <AlBundy> erUSUL, there is nothing there.
[14:15] <DexterLB> aftertaf: give that apt line! :P
[14:15] <Psyonara> Ikonia, ok thanks.
[14:15] <elitedev> myk_robinson, llutz: thank you! ikonia: not so much.
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Nilu: oh and I would put  letters and numbers at least in the account  password,  and at least  8 characters
[14:16] <erUSUL> AlBundy: then you will have to use the free radeon drivers (probably what you are using already)
[14:16] <aftertaf> DexterLB: msged :)
[14:16] <hyperstream> Psyonara, what ikonia said is true, but many people ive solved laptop issues with have agreed, i would suggest not upgrading like ikonia is suggesting but a clean install if you did need to attempt that. install 9.10 and debug first tho :)
[14:16] <ikonia> Psyonara: I would not suggest a clean install
[14:16] <Ven]n> ubuntu keeps trying to connect to a wlan ive been on before.. but I dont want it to try that one.. how to fix?
[14:16] <iflema> hyperstream its an alpha...
[14:16] <Ven]n> I get a popup to type in WEP password
[14:17] <ikonia> hyperstream: I've just told you blindly recommending 10.04 is not aceptable - please stop
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: I would suggest not using it
[14:17] <Psyonara> hyperstream: yeah, I was thinking of trying 9.10, but haven't decided yet.
[14:17] <Psyonara> ikonia, not even 9.10?
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: 9.10 would be a more sensible update if you're keen on an update
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: 9.10 is stable
[14:17] <AlBundy> erUSUL, and why is that exactly?
[14:18] <Psyonara> ikonia, ok, that's what hyperstream then suggested.
[14:18] <erUSUL> AlBundy: those drivers come preinstalled with the system
[14:18] <myk_robinson> these messages are going by a bit fast, so at the risk of being called impatient and a spammer, anyone able to help with this:  http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:18] <ikonia> Psyonara: that's more than a sensible approach
[14:18] <erUSUL> AlBundy: do « man radeon » in a terminal
[14:18] <ikonia> hyperstream: my apologies
[14:18] <hyperstream> ;/
[14:18] <jason_> I need help
[14:19] <hyperstream> jason_, please state the question you have :)
[14:19] <sebsebseb> !ask | jason_
[14:19] <Psyonara> ikonia, hyperstream: is an upgrade to 9.10 likely to solve problems, or is a clean install better?
[14:19] <jason_> When I run the command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak (or any other reposotory I get the following error
[14:19] <jason_> Exception in thread Thread-1:
[14:19] <jason_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:19] <jason_>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 525, in __bootstrap_inner
[14:19] <jason_>     self.run()
[14:19] <jason_>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 60, in run
[14:19] <FloodBot1> jason_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <jason_>     self.add_ppa_signing_key(self.ppa_path)
[14:19] <nwillems> I'm looking for someone who can help me on monitor "detction". My laptop recognises my 19" PC Monitor via VGA and also my Flatscreen TV same port, but the later only on reboot.
[14:19] <hyperstream> Psyonara, i always prefer clean installs, but i cannot say a upgrade wouldnt help
[14:20] <ikonia> Psyonara: an upgrade is acceptable, it may or may not solve the problems you're seeing, look on launchpad.net to see if anyone has been having a simliar problem/bug on 9.10
[14:20] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks.
[14:20] <kcg> hi, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doest appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it? Many thanks.
[14:20] <Psyonara> ikonia, thanks, I'll check it out.
[14:20] <ikonia> Psyonara: also check launchpad.net for the problem you're having see if anyone's actually logged it for your distro and posted a fix
[14:20] <sebsebseb> Psyonara: 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades have gone wrong on quite a few people,  plus not that important, but  those Ext3 9.04 installs won't get converted to Ext4 on upgrade, and no Grub 2 either
[14:20] <myk_robinson> kcg: not a direct fix, but have you tried using Screenlets instead?
[14:20] <ikonia> sebsebseb: why does he need grub 2 ?
[14:20] <hyperstream> Psyonara, not a problem
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: why is not having grub 2 a bad thing ?
[14:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: exactly, hence my plus not that important
[14:21] <Psyonara> sebsebseb, I'm already on Ext4
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: so why mention it ?
[14:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ,because it won't happen on upgrade?
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: but you've just said that it's not importat
[14:21] <supernapalm> is there ANYONE on here that has knowledge of Usenet? I'm using Alt Binz and Newshosting and at best download speed is only 30kbps when it should be 600kbps. It was fine last night managed to download 12gb but just slowed to almost a halt today...
[14:22] <ikonia> supernapalm: could it be your isp shaping/throttling you ? could it be your usenet servers are currently under load?
[14:22] <ikonia> supernapalm: what usenet client are you using, what ubuntu version ?
[14:22] <jason_> I get an error when I run the command  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak [http://paste.ubuntu.com/361269/]
[14:23] <hyperstream> supernapalm, portforwarding? perhaps assigned a new DHCP ipaddress via your router could have messed with firewall/service configuration with you router? (stab in the dark)
[14:23] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: I use Sabnzbd without issue. Like ikonia said, cound be your ISP throttling you, particularly if you downloaded 12GB in one night. That would be a red flag for some ISPs
[14:23] <witold> hi
[14:23] <viktorfulop> Hey! This is my first time here... This is some kind of help channel, right? So can I ask a question?
[14:23] <hyperstream> jason_, whats the error, can you paste it @ pastebin.com please (the error)
[14:23] <sebsebseb> viktorfulop: of course, just ask
[14:23] <kcg> myk_robinson: another widget engine?
[14:23] <supernapalm> thing is I've downloaded well over 12gb in one night before via torrents and never had a problem
[14:24] <ikonia> supernapalm: worth checking with your isp - and your usenet servers
[14:24] <ikonia> supernapalm: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue though
[14:24] <jason_> I did the "Exeption in line..." is the error
[14:24] <supernapalm> yeh well I sent an email to Newshosting support but they havern't got back to me
[14:24] <myk_robinson> kcg: yes, but with much better widgets. You have to consider that each widget may have its own bugs. Do you get the same results with every weather plugin you try, or just one in particular?
[14:25] <syockit> what's the safest way to restart compiz?
[14:25] <kcg> yup, every plugin
[14:25] <ikonia> supernapalm: give them time, either way doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[14:25] <hyperstream> jason_, so sorry, im blind :(
[14:26] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: for me, I have to throttle down my newsgroup downloads, otherwise it takes everything available on my network. Have you accidentally made a change in your app, are you perhaps throttling yourself? Do you get the same slow results when direct downloaing something from a website? I guess what I'm trying to ask is if the slow speeds are isloated to newgroup downloads
[14:26] <viktorfulop> Cool. So here's the thing: I have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?
[14:27] <supernapalm> yeh, downloading from browser is NO problem at all youtube is fine
[14:27] <supernapalm> it's only with Usenet
[14:28] <kcg> myk_robinson: I am going to try out screenlets first and see how it goes. Many thanks.
[14:28] <ikonia> supernapalm: therefore it's either your isp or your usenet server, not an ubuntu issue
[14:28] <myk_robinson> kcg: no prob, glad to be able to help. Hope it works for you
[14:28] <bobbyd> hi
[14:29] <supernapalm> by process of elimination it's a server problem for sure because my ISP throttles traffic but only between 5pm and 11pm when I'm not usually on anyway
[14:29] <serpico> hi
[14:29] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: only other thing I can think is trying a different app for downloading and see if you can duplicate the problem
[14:29] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: http://sabnzbd.org/
[14:30] <himawijaya> tes
[14:30] <myk_robinson> I know i'm flooding again, but have any of you seen this error before in Firefox/Youtube    http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:30] <ikonia> supernapalm: ok - so nothing we can do to help you with that problem
[14:31] <bobbyd> On Ubuntu 9.04 The hardware volume buttons on my laptop no longer control the master volume, but are somehow mapping to the "capture" pulseaudio master volume. How can I fix this?
[14:31] <supernapalm> well thanks for the suggestions anyway
[14:31] <shane2peru> Is there a simple way to import a m3u or pls playlist into rhythmbox?
[14:31] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: what service are you using? Astraweb has been great for me
[14:32] <supernapalm> as in premium server? I'm signed up to Newshosting
[14:32] <shane2peru> ahh, got it, it is load file. :)
[14:33] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: just checking their site to see if they have a "Server Status" or something, perhaps it is a server problem. At any rate, I'm curious
[14:34] <supernapalm> not on their homepage
[14:34] <AlBundy> my karmic doesnt recognize my external monitor, what can I do?
[14:34] <supernapalm> they're supposed to be one of the top dogs so to speak and prices were good
[14:34] <johntramp> is there a file similar to .xinitrc where i can run commands when i start gnome
[14:34] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: they have a few different servers listed, have you tried using a different one?
[14:35] <Ven]n> where do I manage the wireless networks in ubuntu?=
[14:35] <sporedi> how do i register with my nick name sorry forget did login long time back since create
[14:35] <Ven]n> found it
[14:35] <llutz> !register | sporedi
[14:35] <sporedi> ok
[14:35] <sporedi> thank you !
[14:35] <supernapalm> I can only use the server my account is on i think
[14:35] <supernapalm> i'm not sure
[14:36] <myk_robinson> as long as you have a valid account, you should be able to use any server you choose. At least thats how it is with Astraweb. I alsways use the SSL encrypted server. Would only take you a few seconds to try a different one, either it will work or it wont
[14:37] <bobbyd> aha! I fixed it: system->sound, choose the correct track to control at the bottom of the dialog :).
[14:37] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.
[14:37] <viktorfulop> sooo... can you help me on that previous problem i mentioned? just to know whether i should wait or not...
[14:37] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: you may be right, though. Looks like their server configuration is specific to account type
[14:38] <gotsanity> is there any way to share my banshee database with other machines on my local network? (im looking to share ratings mainly)
[14:38] <nwillems> Hey. I'm having some problem with multi monitor in ubuntu 9.10. I have a flatscreen and a monitor, my flatscreen won't show up after I have had the monitor plugged in. Is this anything common?
[14:38] <ikonia> supernapalm: can you please stop discussing this in this channel. it's not an ubuntu issue
[14:38] <coz_> nwillems,  which video card are you using
[14:38] <g-me> Hey All.. Can Anyone recommend a local personal fincance program at all? Open to suggestions but naturally would like a pssword / lock on the program also. Cheers
[14:39] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.
[14:39] <hyperstream> g-me, gnucash
[14:39] <myk_robinson> g-me: kMyMoney is excellent, even in Gnome
[14:39] <nwillems> just a sec will look it up, I have a Lenovo S10e netbook.
[14:39] <g-me> hyperstream: does that support a password at startup?
[14:39] <coz_> nwillems,    lspci | grep -i vga
[14:39] <hyperstream> g-me, not sure mate
[14:39] <g-me> myk_robinson: will give that a look cheers.
[14:39] <g-me> hyperstream: I will dig around and have a look. Thanks
[14:40] <nwillems> coz_, It's an intel
[14:40] <llutz> g-me: hibiscus
[14:40] <myk_robinson> g-me: its in the repositories, but here's some information for you  http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[14:40] <coz_> nwillems,  ok now in terminal    _sudo glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
[14:40] <nwillems> _sudo ??
[14:40] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I boot into Xubuntu and have the second drive plugged in?
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  you can try it without sudo if you like
[14:41] <sporedi> i am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz
[14:41] <mediaprodigy> Hello everyone
[14:41] <nwillems> My question was more about the underscore?
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  are you running the system as root?
[14:41] <g-me> myk_robinson: yeah that looks what I am after. Will check that out thanks.
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  oh maybe i have the wrong person let me check
[14:41] <nwillems> 2048
[14:42] <nwillems> coz_, its 2048
[14:42] <coz_> nwillems,  ok that means that dual monitors CANNOT exceed that resolution in any one direction
[14:42] <coz_> nwillems,  that is hardware based by the way and not changeagle at least as far as I know
[14:42] <myk_robinson> g-me: yeah, its about as close to Quicken as one can get in Linux. I actually like it better
[14:43] <coz_> nwillems,  so the combined monitors cannot exceed that 2048
[14:43] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I Do that as well as have the new drive plugged in?
[14:43] <nwillems> coz_, is it on a per monitor basis or "total" display?
[14:43] <hyperstream> ScoobyDoo, try #xubuntu
[14:43] <g-me> since I got a good response to the last question... Is there any FOSS ssl VPN software about anyone can recommend
[14:43] <coz_> nwillems,  total
[14:43] <ScoobyDoo> Ah ok thanks
[14:43] <llutz> g-me: openvpn?
[14:43] <g-me> myk_robinson: its all you fault then if I go bankrupt ! :)
[14:43] <nwillems> coz_, Okay, that solves one problem about My HD TV not being able to go 1080p. But to the main point.
[14:43] <myk_robinson> g-me: glad to be of service :)
[14:44] <nwillems> coz_, My flatscreen TV dosen
[14:44] <RobotCow> how can i check how many man pages there are for a command?
[14:44] <g-me> llutz: is openvpn still supported? I thought support had ceased.. However if it works and is secure I will give it a go
[14:44] <coz_> nwillems,  again it is most likely related to the MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE  however  I cant be sure because I have never tested it with flatscreen TV
[14:44] <llutz> RobotCow: man -k
[14:44] <coz_> nwillems,  in order to get around that you would need a different video card
[14:45] <RobotCow> llutz, thanks
[14:45] <nwillems> coz_, My flatscreen TV dosen't "identify" after I have had my monitor attached to my laptop?
[14:45] <noise_> hi i want to start learning c++,but i dont know what kind of tools should i use
[14:45] <noise_> maby emacs,or vi
[14:45] <coz_> nwillems,   mm   I am not sure what that issue would be then   but it recogizes it if the monitor had not been attached?
[14:46] <jeffmr> noise_, or pico or a graphical text editor
[14:46] <coz_> noise gedit should work
[14:46] <nwillems> it just sees it as the old one, dosen't detect the new monitors sizes. The one is 4:3 -monitor and the flatscreen is 16:9
[14:46] <noise_> what is pico?
[14:47] <g-me> noise: this may be blasphemous: Notepad++ with Wine
[14:47] <jeffmr> noise_, its a simple terminal text editor
[14:47] <noise_> cute
[14:47] <jeffmr> noise_, simpler than emacs and vi
[14:47] <coz_> nwillems,  mmm ok  then I am at a loss here and any info I could give you right now would be a guess... i am betting there is someone with a bit more experience with these matters   if not...you could try  ##linux channel
[14:47] <sporedi> i am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz
[14:48] <Ricky_> dsgsg
[14:48] <nwillems> coz_, well thanks for the help, can you maybee give a guess on which component it is located?
[14:48] <noise_> how can i clik in pico expl. ^R ??
[14:49] <coz_> nwillems,  which component?  I am not sure what you mean
[14:49] <jeffmr> noise_, I don't think you can.  I think you would have to use a graphical editor or something else
[14:49] <jeffmr> it has a go to line command and the commands are listed at the bottom of the screen
[14:50] <nwillems> coz_, like in what piece of software? Like X or driver or something in between, maybee Gnome.
[14:50] <myk_robinson> noise_: I would recommend using gedit. It has a GUI, which may be helpful, plus it has language markup to help with highlighting and format for C++
[14:51] <coz_> nwillems,  oh well... it is going to be mostly the video card/driver
[14:51] <noise_> ok thanks
[14:51] <myk_robinson> noise_: perhaps this will help:   http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/06/using-gedit-as-ide-python-cc-or-any.html
[14:51] <nwillems> coz_, Thanks a lot, you really helped me there. have a great day
[14:51] <Guest19797> hi i restored a partimage-backup to a partition but cannot open the encrypted home folder (running system with already the home folder mounted) what to do?
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  but again ...you want to check with someone with more experience in this
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  that's why i suggested  the ##linux channel :)
[14:52] <nwillems> coz_, I will see if there's someone in there or maybee if there's an intel-graphics channel
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  I hope this pans out for you.... video issues are a pain in the butt :)
[14:53] <nwillems> coz_, Yeah, sadly the manufactures like haven't opened their eyes to this community
[14:54] <coz_> nwillems,  well  intel...nvidia to a point...and now ati have been there....ati is now open source
[14:54] <coz_> nwillems,  laptops arent always equipped with high end video  so  that could be the issue
[14:55] <Guest19797> i have troubles mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[14:56] <tentaclemoose> anyone have any trouble with 9.10 and netbook remix?
[14:56] <nwillems> coz_, but then again laptops are being sold more often than "normal" PC's
[14:56] <tentaclemoose> specifically, with the main menu being too large for the screen?
[14:56] <myk_robinson> figured out my Firefox/Youtube problem. Looks like the Download Helper plugin was causing occasional trouble. Disabled it and have had no issues
[14:57] <coz_> nwillems,   perhaps... you might have to special order a higher end video chip in the laptop...but   I dont use laptops at all so I am certainly not the last work on the topic  :)
[14:57] <viktorfulop> I have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?
[14:57] <mazda01> can anyone please tell me how to do a search from command line to find a trash icon in ubuntu. i would think it would have "trash" and either "svg" or "png" in it. I tried sudo find /usr/ -name "trash*png" but that didn't work. any thoughts?
[14:58] <YezYez> I have installed ubuntu 9.10. I cannot boot my previously installed Windows7. I get 'BOOTMGR is missing' when trying to boot windows7. What should I do?
[14:58] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[14:58] <nwillems> coz_, he he. Statistics says so
[14:59] <YezYez> mazda01, try "trash*ico" ?
[14:59] <erUSUL> !ecryptfs
[15:00] <YezYez> Anyone in here ran windows7 before installing ubuntu?
[15:00] <coz_> YezYez,  yes I just did a clients system that had windows 7 on it
[15:00] <sanguisdex> I need to get my hands on the live image for intrepid ibex any one know where I can get that?
[15:01] <jiohdi> anyway to run tomtom software in ubuntu?
[15:01] <YezYez> coz_, Can you tell me what you did in order for GRUB to make windows7 boot? I get 'bootmgr is missing' when booting W7
[15:01] <coz_> sanguisdex,    http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[15:01] <brendan`> jiohdi, with wine?
[15:02] <jiohdi> brendan, wine lets a zip file down load... which vanishes ... and then nothing happens
[15:02] <coz_> YezYez,   mm   I removed windows 7 for this client  ... I have not done a dual boot with windows7  and ubuntu yet  but let me check
[15:02] <YezYez> coz_, its weird...normally w7 has 2 partitions I think
[15:02] <YezYez> but it seems like I only have 1
[15:02] <jeffmr> YezYez, I think you have to boot with the Windows 7 cd and repair the installation
[15:03] <YezYez> :s
[15:03] <sanguisdex> unless of course the opensource ati driver is now supporting opengl for mobility-radion cards
[15:03] <jeffmr> I had to do that but it was on a mac
[15:03] <YezYez> jeffmr, the cd said it cannot be repaired
[15:03] <coz_> YezYez,  see if any of this is familiar   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[15:03] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help
[15:04] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.
[15:04] <YezYez> let me check, coz_
[15:04] <coz_> YezYez,  also check here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:06] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.
[15:06] <mazda01> YezYez, that didn't find anything. I am using cairo-dock from ppa weekly. i am missing alamixer icon, trash icon, and clock icon for some reaason.
[15:06] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:06] <coz_> YezYez,  here is a graphical tutorial on this    http://netcashingin.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu.html
[15:06] <myk_robinson> nikhil: not sure, HPLIP is showing to have supported that printer since Ubuntu 5.04 you connected by USB?
[15:07] <Mist_> On a typical ubuntu installation, how should I divide the partitions for like  /boot /  /home /swap and so on?
[15:07] <Mist_> What is recomended I mean..
[15:07] <nikhil> myk_robinson: yes, connected thru usb
[15:07] <sanguisdex> is there a way to install a an image to a live CD and test ati drivers?
[15:08] <Mist_> On typical user desktop system Iso far had like 100 MB or so for /boot
[15:08] <Mist_> 5 GB for /
[15:08] <coz_> Misery,   take a look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[15:08] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I typically do a 30-40GB / partition, a 2GB swap, and the largest portion for a /home partition. I like a separate /home partition because I prefer a clean install to an upgrade, and this ensures I keep my stuff
[15:08] <nikhil> myk_robinson: saw the help site. it says it requires downloadable driver plug in. ???
[15:08] <ubuntu_chile_tco> Existe alguien que hable español ??
[15:08] <myk_robinson> nikhil: you should have everything you need in the repositories, I believe. Lemme double check
[15:08] <YezYez> ty coz_
[15:09] <YezYez> but it seems like i have far greater problems
[15:09] <YezYez> :s
[15:09] <coz_> oo
[15:09] <YezYez> i destroyed the win7 boot partition i guess
[15:09] <nikhil> myk_robinson: like what from repos? pls help
[15:09] <YezYez> so now there is no possible way to boot
[15:09] <Mist_> myk_robinson: Yeah that is why I also split /home from the rest :)  5GB will be enough for the rest other than /boot  and /home u think?
[15:09] <YezYez> >:[
[15:10] <Pindaman> Hola
[15:10] <coz_> YezYez,  mm   I wish I could help more here ..unfortunately I have to break...I have several clients this morning :(  be back later though...but I know there are very qualified people on this channel that can help
[15:10] <YezYez> np, ty for your help coz_...take care mate :)
[15:10] <Mist_> Another reason is how reading is handled in GNU/Linux of disk.. old trick to speed up old drives for servers is to have the most used partitions as close to the parking of the spindles..
[15:11] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I wouldnt bother with a /boot partition  I just allow GRUB to be installed to MBR anyway.  I would recommend at least 10GB for / just because it contains the whole OS, including apps you install to standard location. You wanna allow a little wiggle room
[15:11] <mike5> hi all. Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?
[15:11] <Mist_> Thus.. swap should have the average shortest time over the platters along with most information intense area ;P
[15:11] <myk_robinson> Mist_: what size hard drive?
[15:11] <mediaprodigy> what's up everyone
[15:11] <YezYez> mazda01, this should give you some clues to where icons are located: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/ubuntu-customization-guide-v2/
[15:12] <mike5> that is, my access-point is just fine, I just cant connect from ubuntu.
[15:12] <myk_robinson> nikhil: did you download the driver or install it from Synaptic?
[15:12] <beeman_nl> hmm
[15:13] <beeman_nl> my mouse suddely stops responding in my Karmic box
[15:13] <nikhil> myk_robinson: installed thru synaptic
[15:13] <Mist_> myk_robinson: 320 GB - around 30 GB of the initial WinXP installation on a Samsung NC10 ^^ I have been doing gnu/linux since 1993 but havent kept up with the recent 5 years exploding development so unsure of disk spaces for mostly /boot and kernel dynamics :)
[15:13] <beeman_nl> i have two mice, the both stop after some time (not at the same time though)
[15:13] <beeman_nl> is there any way to reset the mice or something?
[15:14] <iBUntuS> salam sumer
[15:14] <myk_robinson> nikhil: can you tell what version of hplip is installed?
[15:14] <Mist_> myk_robinson: that and a bit of.. ahum.. sort of perfectionst personality distorder :D lol lol
[15:14] <Mist_> errr disorder :)
[15:14] <nikhil> myk_robinson: HPLIP 2.8.7
[15:14] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I would stick with just a swap, /, and /home    Should be fine
[15:15] <nikhil> myk_robinson: Device manager software version: 14
[15:16] <myk_robinson> nikhil: not sure, everything says it should just work. Take a look at this:  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[15:16] <Mist_> myk_robinson: probably :) I should install another gig ram into this one and virtualbox my insane scientist laboratory experiments with distros anyway on the side ^^
[15:16] <mike5> Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?
[15:16] <myk_robinson> Mist_: yeah, VirtualBox is a lot more enjoyable with RAM
[15:16] <myk_robinson> mike5: whats problem are you ahving?
[15:16] <Mist_> myk_robinson: yeah.. so the wize men say (and girls)
[15:17] <mike5> well... can't connect :)
[15:17] <mike5> nothing happens
[15:17] <myk_robinson> mike5: if you disable the encryption can you connect?
[15:18] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:18] <mike5> I thought I will not have to fiddle with my router to do this...
[15:18] <mazda01> i've set the empty and full icons for cairo-dock trash applet but it still wont show up. whats going on?
[15:18] <mike5> is there anything I can try on ubuntu before I do that?
[15:18] <beeman_nl> dammit this sucks :(
[15:18] <beeman_nl> need to reboot to get the mouse back
[15:19] <myk_robinson> mike5: its best to start with the simplest thing. We need to determine if your wifi card is working at all, and this is the easiest way to test that
[15:19] <nikhil> myk_robinson: is it better to download from site instead of synaptic?
[15:19] <myk_robinson> nikhil: from the site will give you the latest version and help ensure that it is not just an issue of the older driver having a bug of some sort
[15:19] <mike5> hmmm. What happens if I disable encryption while I'm connected?
[15:20] <mike5> that is, I'm talking through this connection right now from my windows machine
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: if it is wireless ,you will lose your connection
[15:20] <nikhil> myk_robinson: i hope so. btw thx so much
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: you dont get an error or any complaint about incorrect password?
[15:20] <mike5> where do I look for that?
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: what version of Ubuntu and what model wireless card, or laptop, or whatever
[15:21] <mike5> ok, its 9.10 from yesterday
[15:21] <mike5> 64bit
[15:21] <mike5> and the card is .... intel 5100 something...
[15:21] <myk_robinson> mike5: are you able to connect it by ethernet cable and run all updates?
[15:21] <nastas> mike5: ubuntu machine is it finding your wireless network?
[15:21] <mike5> let me check...
[15:22] <mike5> hmmm, let me find some network cable...
[15:22] <nikhil> myk_robinson: in the Hplip toolbox, there is an option which says "Install required plugin". when i click on it, nothing happens.  maybe if that is done, problem will be solved?
[15:23] <myk_robinson> nikhil: that's the part i dont understand, I dont think the plugin is required. But the newer driver is leaps ahead of the one you are using
[15:23] <jaypur> does any1 know some soft. like m$ sam?? for linux? i'd like to make some robot speaking...
[15:23] <mike5> I'll be back...
[15:24] <emperrorr> anyone can tell me..? what is ubufox exactly?
[15:24] <nikhil> myk_robinson: maybe i will just uninstall and reinstall hplip from the site.
[15:25] <myk_robinson> jaypur: try Festival, should be in the repository
[15:25] <jaypur> myk_robinson, k brb
[15:25] <oCean_> !info ubufox | emperrorr
[15:27] <emperrorr> thx
[15:28] <Jovaras> My hard drive has got many bad sectors, and when I try to install ubuntu it performs check on bad sectors and it keeps going forever. I think it's "badblocks -v /dev/hdx ". Is there any way to skip this check before installing?
[15:28] <jeerum> hi
[15:28] <joph> hi
[15:28] <jeerum> why is soo hard to get streaming to server?
[15:29] <jeerum> in ubuntu?
[15:29] <jeerum> now i have tryd over 2 days
[15:29] <Dubai> hello
[15:30] <joph> many things are hard to achieve in linux
[15:30] <jeerum> :D
[15:31] <jeerum> but is there any solution?
[15:31] <joph> i don't know sorry :) i'm very new to it and have questions, too :]
[15:32] <viktorfulop> gee, thanks for not helping me but helping everyone else...
[15:32] <joph> everyone else lol
[15:32] <joph> did you try vlc player, jeerum?
[15:33] <joph> i used vlc player in windows and streaming wasn't that hard
[15:34] <jeerum> toyou can stream to shoutcast serverfr
[15:35] <jeerum> ?
[15:35] <joph> is there anyone, who got cs (steam) working on an ati radeon hd 4850 with -nearly good- performance?
[15:35] <myk_robinson> jaypur: figure it out?
[15:35] <jaypur> myk_robinson, installing X)
[15:35] <joph> i don't know jeerum, but i don't think so
[15:35] <stanman246_> hi anyone knows a way to split avi files into clips?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: the syntax once you run Festival is       (SayText "place text to be spoken inside double quotes")    This all must be enclosed in parethesis
[15:36] <joph> do you try streaming to shoutcast with winamp, jeerum?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: it can also read a file
[15:36] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: once you run festival from the console, type help for more syntax/commands
[15:36] <jaypur> myk_robinson, it runs at terminal?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: yes
[15:36] <jaypur> how can i record ???
[15:37] <myk_robinson> jaypur: that, i'm not sure. Perhaps i didnt understand your application
[15:37] <beeman_nl> hmm i just filed this bug against my mouse problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/511590
[15:37] <myk_robinson> jaypur: sorry, I have to go out on a service call. Hopefully someone else can pickup where we left off and help you out
[15:38] <beeman_nl> if anyone has some idea's i'd be happy to test them :)
[15:38] <jaypur> myk_robinson, hmmm i think i'll look about this, i'd like to make a robot talking for a readio... i'll check this later thanks a lot friend
[15:38] <Lizak> p
[15:39] <joph> jeerum: i think there should be a list of supported applications on the shoutcast homepage, most apps need a plugin to stream
[15:39] <g0th> Hi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password."
[15:39] <jeerum> joph i have looked
[15:40] <g0th> any idea how to fix this?
[15:40] <jeerum> but nothing understand
[15:40] <jeerum> there is some apps that runs on terminal
[15:40] <jeerum> i need some with gui
[15:42] <joph> do you want the listeners to connect to YOUR ip address or to another ip address?
[15:42] <jeerum> to another ip
[15:42] <jeerum> i have vps
[15:42] <joph> ah okay
[15:42] <joph> vps?
[15:42] <jeerum> virtual private server
[15:42] <g0th> Hi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password." Any idea how to fix this?
[15:43] <joph> and that server has got a shoutcast app running? or is it the server you want to configure?
[15:44] <g0th> anyone?
[15:44] <joph> g0th, did you type in your password? :)
[15:45] <mike5> ok. 199 updates installed
[15:45] <g0th> joph: I did for thunderbird 3.0
[15:45] <joph> the information you are giving is a little poor
[15:45] <mike5> let me  see if wireless works now
[15:45] <g0th> joph: then I simply removed tb 3.0 and installed tb 3.1
[15:45] <llutz> g0th: it's beta, so ask devs, write bugreport
[15:45] <g0th> what other information do you need?
[15:46] <joph> maybe llutz is more into this
[15:46] <g0th> llutz: I think it is a very common problem (from my google search)
[15:46] <jeerum> jph Server is running http://puurmani.com:8000
[15:46] <llutz> joph: nope
[15:46] <joph> and you tried to reconfigure tb?
[15:46] <g0th> I didn't find anything that solves the issue though
[15:46] <g0th> how?
[15:47] <g0th> I mean reconfigure what/how?
[15:47] <joph> normal gui settings
[15:47] <g0th> in the preferences it doesnt list any saved passwords
[15:47] <g0th> hmm
[15:48] <mtaftm> hello everyone, got my cam sorted, its a bit dark how would i go about sorting the quality out?
[15:48] <joph> that's what i'm talking bout :)
[15:48] <guja> Hello all. Anyone managed to install and run Visual Studio 2008 in Ubuntu without using Virtual Machine or making Win-Ubuntu dual boot?
[15:48] <joph> jeerum: i'll try to connect as listener to test
[15:48] <g0th> joph: what do you mean?
[15:49] <stanman246> what software should i use for 'clipping' up one big avi?
[15:49] <mtaftm> guja: you tried wine mate?
[15:49] <g0th> joph: what do I need to do?
[15:49] <g0th> stanman246: clipping up how?
[15:49] <xxthink> Are there some thread profile tool under linux?
[15:49] <joph> if there ain't no saved passwords listed maybe they're lost and you need to re-save em?
[15:49] <g0th> how?
[15:49] <guja> mtaftm, wine can't handle VS2008.
[15:49] <jeerum> joph its working on server
[15:49] <mtaftm> oh right sorry
[15:50] <joph> by typing 'em in whereever you did that before
[15:50] <jeerum> now its another streamer, but i want do it my self
[15:50] <stanman246> g0th: i'd like to make seperate clips out of one avi, would be nice if the clips are the scene changes
[15:50] <joph> ah i c jee
[15:51] <mike5> so, where do I check for my wireless errors?
[15:51] <shadow120> anyone know of a GUI for john the ripper?
[15:52] <mike5> also, where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?
[15:52] <g0th> stanman246: hmm, so something like clipping in the time direction? sorry at first though I don't know
[15:52] <joph> jeerum: did you search synaptic for "shoutcast"?
[15:52] <perlsyntax> How can i do this in linux see how fast my cpu are?
[15:52] <g0th> joph: where can I type the passwords?
[15:52] <perlsyntax> is there away
[15:52] <jeerum> joph no
[15:53] <jeerum> what it is?
[15:53] <joph> g0th: you said you were using the previous version of tb, didn't you type in any passwords before?
[15:54] <g0th> joph: yes in the previous version
[15:54] <xxthink> Are there some thread profile tool under linux?
[15:54] <perlsyntax> How can i check my cpu speed in ubuntu?
[15:54] <g0th> joph: and after having typed them in I can't type them in anymore
[15:54] <mike5> where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?
[15:54] <joph> jeerum: you want to stream to a shoutcast server, don't you? so you can search synaptic for "shoutcast" to find plugins or stand-alone-apps to do this
[15:54] <g0th> joph: since the "master password service"/whatever  is dealing with it
[15:54] <LjL> perlsyntax: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give you the mhz and the bogomips
[15:55] <perlsyntax> thanks
[15:55] <joph> g0th: ok i think you have to remove it completely
[15:55] <oCean_> mike5: read up on grub2 config here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[15:55] <g0th> joph: remove what?
[15:55] <arand> mike5:  using grub or grub2? (if fresh-install of 9.10, -> grub2)
[15:55] <mike5> tnx
[15:55] <jeerum> ok now i understand, i have searched in synaptic manager
[15:55] <jeerum> and in google
[15:56] <jeerum> there is some, but not working on me
[15:56] <g0th> joph?
[15:56] <KayLii> bjr
[15:56] <g0th> ...
[15:57] <g0th> hmpf
[15:57] <g0th> I will downgrade to tb 3.0 then
[15:58] <ayaz> hi
[15:58] <g0th> it can't be that the basic mail functionality doesnt work :-(
[15:58] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:58] <llutz> g0th: tb lacks basic functions since ever
[15:58] <joph> g0th: remove tb
[15:58] <the_real_dave> !hi | ayaz
[15:58] <Jef91> Ok - I'm feeling beyond stupid right now
[15:58] <Jef91> How on earth do I install a custom font in Ubunut?
[15:58] <Jef91> Ubuntu*
[15:59] <oCean_> Jef91: basics are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[15:59] <the_real_dave> Jef91: Try copying it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ?
[15:59] <joph> jeerum: try using xmms2 + xmm2-plugin-icymetaint <- maybe that helps
[15:59] <mike5> tnx. I'll be back to troubleshoot wireless later.
[15:59] <jeerum> sthanks i will
[15:59] <joph> xmm2 = xmms2 :D
[16:00] <mikebeecham> kostkon: thanks mate...I added the ppa, removed wine and re-installed.  All is good now mate.
[16:01] <Jef91> oCean_ / the_real_dave - will I need to restart my application for it to see the fonts after I move my fonts there?
[16:01] <Jef91> nvm - I do not
[16:01] <joph> g0th: hope that works, if it doesn't you need to completely remove tb (incl. folder[s]) and reinstall it so that you're beginning from zero
[16:02] <the_real_dave> Jef91: probably, though I'm not sure. I know if I change font in Conky I have to start it again so maybe
[16:03] <z3rongod_> First of all pardon my ignorance and even maybe for the offtopic, but I don't know where else to ask and I'm sure there might be someone to answer this issue. I am currently running a game server, and 50 fake game servers. The reason for the fake game servers is because the master server list on which clients connect are filled with fake servers. I am trying to figure out how to use less resources for the fake servers. They are currently being run on wi
[16:05] <llutz> !ot | z3rongod_ you are right, it's off-topic here
[16:05] <g0th> joph: that's not an option
[16:05] <g0th> joph: I have like 100 folders with over 50'000 sorted mails/etc and several hundred rules
[16:05] <joph> g0th: ah because you need the received mails huh?
[16:06] <joph> uh ye
[16:06] <g0th> so I won't retype everything, sorry
[16:06] <g0th> not an option
[16:06] <llutz> g0th: get it back from backup later
[16:06] <g0th> I want to keep the account settings, folder settings, filter settings, etc
[16:07] <g0th> and of course where the messages are stored
[16:07] <g0th> those are all things that take a _very_ long time to "redo"
[16:07] <joph> is it already stable?
[16:07] <llutz> g0th: why dou you use alpha/beta-software then?
[16:07] <joph> that'd have been my next question :D
[16:07] <g0th> llutz: my current solution is indeed to downgrade to tb 3.0
[16:08] <llutz> g0th: hopefully your profile still works
[16:08] <g0th> yes I hope
[16:08] <g0th> I am a bit angry at the tb devs
[16:08] <Ranakah> hi everybody.. what packet i need to install for "ip" command?
[16:08] <joph> else you know next time not to use them :)
[16:08] <g0th> the main thing should be that basic functionality keeps working
[16:08] <llutz> g0th you are the only one to be angry at
[16:08] <g0th> no matter if it is beta or alpha or stable
[16:09] <om26er> g0th, do you pay them?
[16:09] <joph> how did you upgrade?
[16:09] <llutz> epic fail
[16:09] <g0th> om26er: of course not, lol
[16:09] <g0th> pay for failure?
[16:09] <g0th> ^^
[16:09] <militant> can i install 9.10 remotely?  like if i have a box i wanna stick under my desk headless, can i start an ubuntu install from a usb stick and telnet/ssh in to actually run it?
[16:10] <oCean_> Ranakah: package iproute
[16:10] <Ranakah> oCean_ tnx :)
[16:10] <militant> to do the install that is.  kuz i don't wanna have to hook up the other monitor just for a 30 minute install
[16:10] <llutz> g0th: you sound like: whaaa, mama, they broke my toy....    so go to #thunderbird and whine there.
[16:10] <gui7> anyone know if there are any advantadges on using unetbootin to "burn" an ubuntu iso to disk as opposed to just using dd?
[16:10] <joph> i prefer to wine :D
[16:10] <g0th> llutz: no, I simply sound angry
[16:11] <oCean_> Ranakah: tip: at packages.ubuntu.com you can search on package name and package content.
[16:11] <om26er> gui7, its easy
[16:11] <g0th> llutz: this is already the third time a tb upgrade caused problems
[16:11] <om26er> gui7, it installs the boot loader
[16:11] <llutz> g0th: tb is crap, was crap, will ever be crap, so use something working next
[16:11] <g0th> anyway I already talked to the guys in thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[16:11] <g0th> thanks for your help
[16:11] <g0th> bye
[16:11] <llutz> g0th: but we're off-topic here, so
[16:11] <gui7> om26er, i meant to burn the .iso to a flash/USB drive - wouldn't it be exactly the same thing as if i just used dd?
[16:12] <om26er> gui7, no, it won't boot
[16:12] <robb> would removing xserver-xorg-* packages and then reinstalling them reload the ubuntu-provided drivers for video cards?
[16:12] <om26er> gui7, either use unetbootin or ubuntu's own usb-creator-gtk
[16:12] <gui7> om26er, ah ok. do you know why?
[16:13] <joph> does anyone know what i gotta do to play counter-strike the way it should be with an ati radeon hd 4850? (but on linux)
[16:13] <om26er> gui7, dd just copies the contents and does not install the bootloader on the usb to boot
[16:13] <robb> !binarydrivers | joph
[16:13] <Xbert> joph, you need to run it thru wine
[16:14] <joph> Xbert: i have wine installed, 3d accel is working, prop driver installed (catalyst 9.12)
[16:14] <joph> Xbert: wine ver. 1.1.36
[16:15] <militant> does anyone know if telnetd or sshd is running during an install
[16:15] <joph> steam is installed, sound driver is set to alsa, sound simulated at 44k ( tried 22k too)
[16:15] <joph> tried pixel shader on/off
[16:16] <llutz> militant: very unlikely
[16:16] <militant> llutz, i wouldn't think so either.  just looking for ways to do an install without dragging a monitor in here
[16:17] <jeffmr> anyone want to help me test sharing my itunes library remotely?
[16:17] <llutz> militant: debootstrap
[16:17] <militant> oh?  ok.  checking into that.
[16:17] <mynameisdeleted> I'm using 9.10 and had an upgrade where it wrote /boot/grub/menu.lst to a bad part of drive outside the bioses reach
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> its easy enough to fix by deleting and recreating the file after you enter grub commands manually
[16:18] <jeffmr> it can be done using a program called simplifymedia
[16:18] <emperor> haha
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> but I'm curious why that generally happens
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> on kernel upgrades sometimes
[16:18] <emperor> ik ben thom
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> most noobs will give linux up if they see broken grub config file
[16:18] <emperor> kut
[16:18] <MidasManchu> Hey mates, anyone know why Firefox is sluggish on 64-bit nix ubuntu during the connecting, handshaking, and retrieval phases?  This is a non-problem in opera, which makes me wonder about Firefox's networking code
[16:18] <Xbert> joph, try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528
[16:19] <emperor> kan het ook in nederlands
[16:19] <om26er> MidasManchu, try chromium
[16:19] <ChogyDan> mynameisdeleted: have you tried grub2?
[16:19] <militant> llutz, not seeing how debootstrap does this?  still looking thru it though
[16:20] <chistesx> anyone know software to ping automatic ubuntu
[16:20] <om26er> !nl | emperor
[16:20] <MidasManchu> om26er, no can do; I have too many tools on firefox that don't port over
[16:20] <llutz> militant: needs a running system on the machine you want install to. ssh to it, mount target-partition and debootstrap then
[16:21] <emperor> he
[16:21] <sandro_> ciao
[16:21] <emperor> ik
[16:21] <emperor> heet
[16:21] <emperor> geen
[16:21] <emperor> dude
[16:21] <FloodBot4> emperor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <militant> hmmmm well there is an option, yes.  there's an existing ubuntu install on the box, i could do that
[16:21] <joph> robb: i'm so happy to have my system up and running with 3d accel. do you know that i won't shoot it down with that binary drivers?
[16:21] <robb> hehe
[16:21] <robb> you wouldn't believe what i've been thru with video drivers...
[16:21] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[16:21] <arand> mynameisdeleted: if it is a "well defined" and clear issue reporting a bug about it might be a good idea, if there aren't already one.
[16:22] <joph> so you're using an ati too, huh? ;)
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> I think grub2 can possibly break... the issue is it shoudl test a config file before upgrading a config file
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> and if it doesnt work revert
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> grub config can be tested without a reboot
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> and woudl have caught this
[16:22] <emperor> email is verbeek.thom@gmail.com mail mme
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> by running grub as a process during runtime
[16:22] <om26er> !enter | mynameisdeleted
[16:22] <joph> robb: you're using an ati gc too?
[16:23] <LjL> emperor: wrong channel for spamming email addresses.
[16:23] <emperor> ljl wat is dat voor naam
[16:23] <LjL> !nl | emperor
[16:23] <llutz> LjL: just a troll
[16:24] <bazhang> emperor, did you have a support question? #ubuntu-nl for dutch
[16:24] <needhelp1> What would it take for ubuntu to switch from nm applet to wicd ?
[16:24] <emperor> spectrobes is cool  he
[16:24] <needhelp1> for default install
[16:24] <jrib> needhelp1: you mean you want to change the way ubuntu is distributed?
[16:24] <LjL> needhelp1: a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[16:24] <bazhang> emperor, please take chat elsewhere
[16:24] <om26er> needhelp1, 10/100
[16:24] <kad_> hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?
[16:24] <maverick> after upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240...help please?
[16:25] <robb> joph: trying to get a geforce2 ti + ati rage 3d to work simultaneously
[16:25]  * om26er thinks '10' is even more
[16:25] <joph> o_O
[16:25] <needhelp1> jrib: yeah
[16:25] <robb> yep :)
[16:26] <Edgar> hello
[16:26] <joph> robb: lol never heard of such an approach
[16:26] <needhelp1> wicd works as far as i can tell better than nm applet, nmapplet gives me so much issues its not funny.
[16:26] <om26er> !hello | Edgar
[16:26] <needhelp1> and this issue seems pretty wide with ubuntu users
[16:26] <Edgar> hey
[16:26] <Edgar> im mexican
[16:26] <om26er> needhelp1, remove nm and install wicd
[16:26] <robb> joph: apparently issues with the ati card drivers being insecure
[16:26] <robb> and no support on 9.10 for geforce2 ti drivers
[16:27] <Edgar> are you from us
[16:27] <robb> (binaries of both)
[16:27] <Edgar> ??
[16:27] <damjanzg> Anybody know how to install a J programing language in ubuntu?
[16:27] <om26er> Edgar, this channel is english only
[16:27] <bazhang> Edgar, this is for support; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:27] <joph> but u got this to work? sounds amazing :D
[16:27] <mauri> vlc is taking a lot of memory with the time passing
[16:27] <robb> no, it's not working
[16:27] <needhelp1> om26er: i have, like 20 times and for a ton of my friends
[16:27] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[16:28] <needhelp1> om26er: this to me seems like a big issue gone unresolved for a while
[16:28] <joph> ah okay
[16:28] <surf> hi. I had problems with the wifi connection so I installed wicd. Now it's ok but my eth connection keeps disconnetting.
[16:28] <protojay> makes
[16:28] <the_real_dave> Hi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.
[16:28] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[16:28] <joph> robb: do you know more about gaming on ati?
[16:29] <kad_> hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?
[16:29] <chistesx> I need find software make ping automatic ubuntu can anyone help me?
[16:30] <om26er_> needhelp1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+filebug
[16:30] <the_real_dave> Hi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.4Ghz (128/400 and OCd to 3Ghz) Celeron to a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 (512/533). Offtopic I know, but will there be much of a difference in power?
[16:30] <bazhang> the_real_dave, try in ##hardware as it is offtopic here
[16:30] <petsounds> my brain is about to melt, my iPod is no longer detected with gtkpod or other ipod software. any clue? :(
[16:31] <bazhang> petsounds, which version of ubuntu and which ipod
[16:31] <maverick> after upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240 ...help please?
[16:31] <petsounds> bazhang, karmic & iPod shuffle
[16:31] <bazhang> petsounds, rhythmbox does it fine for those two here
[16:32] <the_real_dave> chistesx: I've something that might interest you. Its a script for Conky but it might do the job. http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/conky-ip-monitor/
[16:32] <robb> joph: no, sorry
[16:32] <the_real_dave> bazhang: Thanks :)
[16:33] <joph> robb: nobody may know everything ;)
[16:33] <robb> i know nothing :)
[16:34] <joph> just like me
[16:34] <chistesx> thanks for answer
[16:34] <robb> with linux, get used to it
[16:34] <robb> nice that so many do know lots
[16:35] <joph> Xbert: the problem is, that most articles are about counter-strike source, like this one. i want to play cs1.6 and i didn't find helpful stuff at google. i don't know if i need to downgrade my kernel (2.6.31-14), my distro (9.10), if i need another gc-driver (prop cat 9.12) or what ever i need to do :S
[16:35] <robb> joph: depending on family of video card, may need to go back to 8.04
[16:35] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[16:35] <robb> this is what it seems to me, at least
[16:35] <petsounds> bazhang, please take a look at this scrrenshot http://is.gd/6SDXj
[16:36] <robb> 9.10 seems to have limited support
[16:36] <joph> robb: yeah linux is an os that stimulates the brain and makes it easier to learn because you know it from the beginning that you need to investigate :D
[16:36] <robb> well said
[16:37] <bazhang> petsounds, never tried gtkpod as rhythmbox always worked with many versions and models of iPod
[16:37] <apanda> hey guys. i'm trying to boot an ubuntu 8.04 at an amd k6 something 400mhz pc with 256mb ram, i've already tried acpi off and all other "extended options" and also to boot in video safe mode, but it wont get past the booting screen. i thought maybe a 6.06 live cd could still boot on that old hardware, but i cant find a download for that
[16:37] <joph> robb: it is not really old (ati radeon hd 4850)
[16:38] <robb> joph: if you have binary drivers loaded, that's probably as good as it gets
[16:38] <om26er_> apanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[16:38] <dbdii407> Question. You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?
[16:39] <om26er_> apanda, ahh sorry for the link
[16:39] <joph> hum
[16:39] <sebsebseb> !6.06 |  apanda  om26er_
[16:40]  * om26er_ sorried for that
[16:40] <mike5> hi all. I'm back and still trying to setup wireless networking on my computer.
[16:40] <petsounds> bazhang, when you plug in the usb do you see new device in desktop? because i don't.
[16:40] <joph> well, i'm using the most recent ones (downloaded from ati hp is binary, isn't it? i'm not originally english, i'm german, sorry :)
[16:40] <sebsebseb> om26er_: yeah a bit silly to be recommending it to someone now, in this case apanda
[16:41] <administrator> hi
[16:41] <sebsebseb> om26er_: what's up with 8.04 on there, did you have a working install?  also there are other distros that are specifically designed for older hardware
[16:41] <bazhang> petsounds, yes, though some models appear as usb storage device on desktop; rhythmbox c orrectly identifies as iPods though
[16:41] <Guest45931> ok
[16:41] <sebsebseb> om26er_: whoops messaged wrong one just then, apanda see above please
[16:41] <Guest45931> Anyone Marathi here?
[16:42] <om26er_> !in | Guest45931
[16:42] <shane2peru> Ok, I can't seem to get the Realplayer plugin to work with FF3?  It doesn't show up?  I installed via medibuntu repos and followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods  Any help would be appreciated.
[16:43] <aLiiCiia> ola
[16:43] <mike5> what logs do I check to see any error messages from my wireless adapter?
[16:43] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[16:43] <om26er_> !hi | dbdii407
[16:43] <dbdii407> I already asked. :P
[16:44] <emperor> hahaham im am the emperor
[16:44] <pa7hfinder> any IBMers here/
[16:44] <emperor> no
[16:44] <dbdii407> You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?
[16:44] <IceDane> Anyone here ever used bootchart to measure boot time? I'm looking at my aful boot chart, and it's logging stuff that's way past logging in.. Me starting a terminal, all the window manager stuff, irssi, etc. I know that's not right.
[16:44] <emperor> huh
[16:44] <the_real_dave> !ot | emperor
[16:44] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: try #php
[16:44] <mike5> I see wpa_supplicant is reporting CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULT
[16:45] <bazhang> emperor, this is for support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:45] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: or is it ##php hrm
[16:45] <apanda> ok i know 6.06 desktop support has ended, i just need a live cd of it, i think the amd k6-2 or something processors are no longer supported by the new kernels in 8.04 etc
[16:45] <joph> robb: you won't believe what i'm gone through the last week. i installed ubuntu with wubi and went through so many traps with my ati again and again... got blackscreens at boot... kernel upgrade -> unable to mount fs ... etc etc etc :D everything in the past week and i'm glad to be (nearly through with that) but i'm happy to know what i know now :) and it ain't enough yet and i didn't reach my minimal and easy goal of playing counterstrike
[16:45] <joph>  in linux. that can't be that hard ... darn
[16:45] <the_real_dave> IceDane: yup, its really useful :) Nice to have a proper graph
[16:45] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I don't think they would have the info I'm looking for
[16:45] <IceDane> the_real_dave: ever had the problems i'm having?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: http not php  just seen that properly, there is a channel for your kind of issue though,  well there's ##networking sure, but I think there's something else as well
[16:45] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I do believe the page was written by the Ubuntu peeps?
[16:45] <robb> joph: welcome to doing it yourself :D
[16:46] <emperor> youtube vampire knigt
[16:46] <the_real_dave> IceDane: no :( what version of bootchart and ubuntu release are you using?
[16:46] <emperor> looking
[16:46] <ayaz> I have a problem with Conduit
[16:46] <emperor> fat
[16:46] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: what page?
[16:46] <IceDane> the_real_dave: 9.10, the one in the repos.
[16:46] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: The placeholder page
[16:46] <om26er_> emperor, please type /part and press enter
[16:46] <joph> robb: so you think a downgrade (of anything) may be necessary?
[16:47] <toni_> hola
[16:47] <the_real_dave> can you upload one of the graphs using Omploader.org?
[16:47] <robb> like i said, depends on hardware version, seems 9.10 should support most newer ati/nvidia cards with binary drivers quite well
[16:47] <robb> and it's own drivers (less 3d support tho)
[16:47] <IceDane> the_real_dave: sec
[16:48] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: lighthttpd is not written by Ubuntu as far as I know.  I mean most packages in the Ubuntu repo aren't written by Ubuntu developers.
[16:48] <om26er_> !sp | toni_
[16:48] <acalbaza> if i have an empty partition, would i be able to install another verion of ubuntu and have grub pick it up?  or do i need to do perform dual booting magic outside of the install process?
[16:49] <joph> robb: but i'm not using the most recent version of ubu, cuz then i get "unable to mount root fs" and "vfs" anything ^
[16:49] <apanda> ok looks like ubuntu isnt meant for amd k6-2 cpus
[16:49] <robb> hehe
[16:49] <robb> sounds messed
[16:49] <sebsebseb> acalbaza: I found out earlier that apparantly Grub 2 has issues with multi booting.   So I guess if it's the old Grub sure.  Also with enough RAM and  such you could virtual machine the other Ubuntu.
[16:50] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I know that. But I don't think, If i remember correctly, that the placeholder page was written by lighttpd
[16:50] <robb> apanda: those should be x86 chipsets, should work
[16:50] <sebsebseb> apanda: yeah probably not,  anyway is that some really old CPU?
[16:50] <joph> yap. deinstalled it via synapt. after that lovely boot messages -g-
[16:50] <IceDane> the_real_dave: if you scroll down far enough, you can see urxvt, irssi, all the wmii related stuff. It shouldn't be logging it.
[16:50] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if this card support by ubuntu ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB ?
[16:50] <perlsyntax> is good 3d for linux
[16:50] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: In fact, I only get it when i install it with sudo apt-get
[16:50] <apanda> amd k6-2 400 mhz. i think all newer linux kernels dont support that any longer
[16:50] <InvaderZim> Why when theres a kernel upgrade, the pkgmanager doesnt remove the old kernel and the old initrd?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: ok well I don't know
[16:51] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: just in case the new kernel doesn't place nice with your hardware
[16:51] <IceDane> InvaderZim: Because the kernel can fuck up.
[16:51] <acalbaza> sebsebseb: i want to use my radeon 850xt card in jaunty... my card craps out in koala since they reved xorg and the latest catalyst drivers dont support my radeon.... kinda bummed about it.
[16:51] <IdleOne> IceDane: please watch your language
[16:51] <apanda> altho k6-2 is x86 compatible afaik ;)
[16:51] <swiftarrow> Hi!  I need to revert my ubuntu Xorg driver to intel 2.4 in karmic  Can someone please guide me?  Thanks!
[16:51] <sebsebseb> apanda: Puppy Linux  and  Damn Small Linux are designed for rather old hardware
[16:51] <arand> InvaderZim: To have a fallback option.
[16:51] <joph> do i need to change from 64 to 32 bit ubu to play games on wine with mentionable performance?
[16:51] <IceDane> In which case you don't want to be stuck with only your new kernel.
[16:51] <InvaderZim> oh so after about 10 upgrades I will have a little party with grub menu and the /boot dir
[16:51] <IceDane> Oh god. Does this channel forbid profanity?
[16:52] <IdleOne> IceDane: yes
[16:52] <IceDane> that's only one step below censoring topics.
[16:52] <papul> where are the .so files located?
[16:52] <apanda> yeah i know, thanks :) i was trying to get ubuntu because i'm used to it a bit and its nice. i have a working puppy here too, will give that a go, ty
[16:52] <Stereocaulon> Problems: 1) Sound 5.1 does not work correctly both on Pulse and ALSA, though it does show up on Alsamixer. 2 Every SDL-game crashes. 3 Youtube and many other Flash-sites crash FF when Flash Player alpha from Adobe is installed. System: Ubu 9.10 64 Bits, snd HDA-Intel, vid: nVidia 9800 using nVidia drivers
[16:52] <thom_> emperor 15
[16:52] <the_real_dave> IceDane: ya, it should stop before kdm starts. I've never seen that before. Try asking in the bootchart thread in the Ubuntu Forums Cafe?
[16:52] <papul> where are the .so files located?
[16:53] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: you can remove the old kernels using Synaptic if you like
[16:53] <sebsebseb> apanda: ok well  have fun with that old computer I guess and np
[16:53] <IceDane> the_real_dave: Just ubuntuforums.org or something?
[16:53] <ChogyDan> anyone know about applying patches?  It is complaining that it can't find the file, but it is comparing to /dev/null which looks like it is supposed to create the file
[16:53] <Stereocaulon> papul: locate .so
[16:53] <om26er_> !lubuntu
[16:53] <InvaderZim> IdleOne: i remeber one time when I tried removing it, and it seemed a lot of programs depended on it
[16:53] <thom_> download kut
[16:53] <thom_> sex?
[16:53] <bazhang> thom_, did you have a support question?
[16:54] <JesusSuperstar> male
[16:54] <JesusSuperstar> :P
[16:54] <toni_> hay alguien español o española?
[16:54] <bazhang> thom_, stop or you will be removed
[16:54] <thom_> kutto
[16:54] <Stereocaulon> !ot | thom_
[16:54] <IdleOne> !es | toni_
[16:54] <bazhang> toni_, #ubuntu-es
[16:54] <toni_> thanks
[16:54] <thom_> sukkel
[16:54] <acalbaza> how can i tell what version of grub?
[16:55] <the_real_dave> IceDane: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531453&page=69
[16:56] <joph> may it be necessery to use 32bit ubuntu to play counter-strike 1.6 on wine with better performance?
[16:56] <the_real_dave> IceDane: bear in mind though that it's not a support thread, so your question might be better placed in the general help section
[16:57] <IceDane> the_real_dave: Yeah, I'm writing a thread there. Thanks
[16:57] <armenb> Hi I've got a really dumb question: Can someone give me a URL of an ubuntu 9.10 desktop ISO?
[16:57] <armenb> the ubuntu.com webpage sucks and uses some awful redirection mechanism, which makes it hard for me to get the URL to paste to curl or wget.
[16:57] <BlouBlou> armenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[16:58] <armenb> BlouBlou: that's exactly what I'm talking about. that webpage sucks.
[16:58] <erUSUL> armenb: wwww.ubuntu.com/download ?
[16:58] <needhelp1> who here uses wicd ?
[16:58] <armenb> I want the URL of the ISO, not the download webpage.
[16:58] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I do :)
[16:58] <BlouBlou> armenb: maybe torrent?
[16:58] <bazhang> armenb, hang on a second
[16:58] <armenb> I don't want a torrent though.
[16:58] <needhelp1> the_real_dave: and anyone else that uses wicd .. have you tried using 1.7 or are you still using 1.6.1 ?
[16:58] <steffan> armenb: #ubuntu-website is their channel - i'm sure they welcome suggestions there
[16:58] <bishal> bishok
[16:59] <armenb> oh, interesting, i didn't know that..thanks steffan
[16:59] <steffan> armenb: no problem
[16:59] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I'm back on 1.5.9 :(
[16:59] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ armenb
[16:59] <needhelp1> the_real_dave: why 1.5.9?
[17:01] <the_real_dave> armenb: try a mirror like http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ubuntu-cdimage/ ?
[17:02] <armenb> the_real_dave: thanks. know of any on the east cost of the US? :-)
[17:02] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I just grabbed the version from the repos, not realising there was a newer one. Is there much improvement?
[17:02] <needhelp1> yeah, but i want to try 1.7 but its not in the ubuntu repos
[17:02] <joph> armenb?
[17:03] <Stereocaulon> My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:03] <the_real_dave> armenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors There's the full list :) Take your pick
[17:03] <armenb> damnit, that URL redirects to cdimage.ubuntu.com.
[17:03] <Link__> Hey, I think that I have found a very important bug in Ubuntu ;)
[17:03] <Link__> But I have never done bug reports before
[17:04] <oCean_> !bug | Link__
[17:04] <steffan> !bugs > Link__
[17:04] <Link__> Can someone help me ?
[17:04] <armenb> er, sorry nevermind.
[17:04] <bo7amny_> hlo ??
[17:04] <joph> armenb
[17:04] <joph> need 32 or 64 bit iso?
[17:04] <the_real_dave> armenb: Give an example of what's on the east coast and I'll send you the link :)
[17:04] <the_real_dave> armenb: My knowledge of american geography ain't great
[17:05] <oCean_> armenb: torrents is an option too for ubuntu iso's
[17:05] <_raven> cannot open ENCRYPTED HOME directory - help please
[17:06] <AresGodOfWar> raven did u setup your pw on install?
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> so yeah... I'm forcing an fsck for my problem since I had kernels written outside the partition appearantly which seems like somethign is badly wrong
[17:06] <Stereocaulon> oCean_, armenb has already said that Torrents were not an option
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> if I see it come up with stuff I'll prob move home irectory contents to another machine and re-install
[17:06] <bishal> g
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> there were previous fsck troubles and its been through a lot of rough reboots
[17:06] <Xqtftqx_> hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte
[17:06] <bishal> what
[17:07] <bishal> hey
[17:07] <IdleOne> !hi | bishal
[17:07] <bishal> very good
[17:07] <bishal> than u
[17:07] <bishal> ok
[17:07] <the_real_dave> armenb: Did you get it?
[17:07] <bishal> good
[17:07] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, did you try to run a utility to check if your HDD is still physically OK? In my case it was my IDE/ SATA controller that was shot.
[17:08] <bazhang> bishal, this is ubuntu support; did you have a support question? or just wish to chat
[17:08] <arand> !enter | bishal
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> I have very cheap hard drive... 1.5TB for 115 bucks
[17:08] <bazhang> bishal, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[17:08] <bishal> no i dont hane
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> from reports that drive can fail sometimes .. hence teh bad end of consumer reviws for it
[17:08] <joph> can i downgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from within ubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> I dont think the motherboard type ever fails
[17:08] <IdleOne> !downgrade
[17:08] <bazhang> joph, no, full reinstall
[17:08] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, WD I presume? I've had 2 of them that died within 4 months.
[17:08] <InvaderZim> joph Why???
[17:09] <InvaderZim> joph just reinstall
[17:09] <joph> are you sure bazhang ?
[17:09] <IdleOne> positive
[17:09] <bazhang> joph, noy a wubi install?
[17:09] <joph> omg i don't want all my files to go to waste ^
[17:09] <bazhang> err not
[17:09] <mynameisdeleted> whats the most reputable drive brand for 1.5tb size and sata?
[17:09] <administrator_> hi
[17:09] <quarkup> any1 using wine with a kernel with a BFS / CK / ZEN patchset ? i wonder about this :: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=10581
[17:09] <IdleOne> mynameisdeleted: ##hardware
[17:09] <joph> i installed with wubi, yes
[17:09] <bazhang> ##hardware for hardware questions please mynameisdeleted
[17:09] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, I'd say Seagate, but they make a lot of noise
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[17:09] <administrator_> exit
[17:10] <the_real_dave> mynameisdeleted: I wouldn't be so sure. I once managed to short circuit just one fan connector on a mobo :) Ridiclious
[17:10] <bazhang> joph, and you have backed up your data?
[17:10] <InvaderZim> Question: How to return from Console Login to Graphical Login?
[17:10] <mynameisdeleted> seagate barracuda 3.5 inch sata 1.5tb
[17:10] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: ctrl-alt-F7
[17:10] <mynameisdeleted> 32mb cache 7200 rpm
[17:10] <bazhang> ctrl alt f7 InvaderZim
[17:10] <oCean_> mynameisdeleted: this is not a hardware discussion channel.
[17:10] <InvaderZim> IdleOne: no, its BLANK
[17:10] <InvaderZim> KDM -> Console Login
[17:11] <Fitzz> I installed e16 and then removed it, and then i can't move any windows anymore on gnome. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:11] <petsounds> bazhang, it seems that my iPod is not formatted http://is.gd/6SIeq
[17:11] <joph> can i copy my files from the linux partition to a windows partition without destroying sth in windows?
[17:11] <julio> Hi people, can someone help with my Flash PLugin??? When I watch a video in youtube, when I try to pause the video, the flash doesnt answer the command
[17:11] <quarkup> try Ctrl+Alt+F7 then the same but between F1 and F12
[17:11] <InvaderZim> quark all blank except for the 6 consoles
[17:11] <quarkup> hmm
[17:11] <InvaderZim> and KDM still running as a process
[17:11] <quarkup> then your KDM daemon is not running
[17:12] <IdleOne> does startx work for kdm?
[17:12] <InvaderZim> startx works
[17:12] <quarkup> kill it then restart the kdm
[17:12] <InvaderZim> but its not what I want
[17:12] <InvaderZim> it doesnt asks for login
[17:12] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill kdm ; startx
[17:12] <quarkup> hmm
[17:12] <InvaderZim> ok... I want to know if there's a "graceful friendly" way of doing it
[17:12] <bazhang> petsounds, palimpsest? did you not try rhythmbox or did palimpsest autolaunch
[17:12] <julio> Hi guys, why video in youtube do not PAUSE? Im runing Karmic Koala last flasb version
[17:12] <needhelp1> does anyone know any portable hdd that are using usb 3.0 ?
[17:12] <InvaderZim> you can choose console login, but cant go back unless you reboot/
[17:12] <administrator__> hi
[17:13] <quarkup> (in kde) sudo systemsettings > advanced > login screen > user convenience > auto-login (disable it)
[17:13] <oCean_> needhelp1: maybe ask in ##hardware? This is not the place for hardware discussions
[17:13] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no, its not autologin. it doesnt show because I ran startx with my user, so its already logged in
[17:13] <quarkup> do
[17:13] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill Xorg
[17:13] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill kdm
[17:14] <InvaderZim> quarkup: and if I stop and restart kdm, it works... but it's not friendly, AND in the login screen shows the console login SESSION even though its logged out
[17:14] <oCean_> !prefix | quarkup
[17:14] <Stereocaulon>  My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:14] <mike5> hi again. I'm reading the forums and I see that wireless problems are quite common in 9.10...
[17:14] <mike5> Still, I'd like to get it working, if asomeone could spare a few minutes
[17:14] <quarkup> InvaderZim: so it happens every time you restart the cpu
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no... when I restart it works again
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I just want to go back to KDM without rebooting
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: and without restarting services
[17:15] <petsounds> bazhang, rhythmbox can't detect my ipod :(
[17:15] <quarkup> InvaderZim: then just start it
[17:15] <quarkup> KDM is a service xD
[17:15] <quarkup> a daemon
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: KDM is already running
[17:15] <bazhang> petsounds, thats odd
[17:15] <needhelp1> mike5: wireless issues
[17:16] <needhelp1> ?
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I shouldnt have to restart it
[17:16] <quarkup> windows has services, linux has daemons
[17:16] <mike5> yes. doesn't connect
[17:16] <oCean_> mike5: Describe your problem including hardware details and steps taken sofar. Try to keep the description in single line, so that one can follow
[17:16] <quarkup> InvaderZim: maybe it has got a problem or something weird
[17:16] <sdwrage> Hey all
[17:16] <needhelp1> i wish ubuntu would look into this, and replace nm applet
[17:16] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I didnt restart it to go to console, it was user friendly. Just click Power Button -> Console Login
[17:16] <needhelp1> mike5: what is it doing, or not doing?
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: not power button, menu... mixed up
[17:17] <quarkup> InvaderZim: i im understanding you
[17:17] <scunizi> would someone hilight my nick? I'm testing an irssi script
[17:17] <llutz> scunizi: no
[17:17] <Myke1> Hello people, I have a question if you can answer... its not about Ubuntu per se, but about a program called Virtualbox... anyone know how to make the window bigger?
[17:17] <quarkup> InvaderZim: it may be a bug :s
[17:17] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[17:17] <scunizi> llutz: worked! thanks
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: so no one uses this option i think, since no one knows a way to go back
[17:17] <quarkup> in my box it works great, but im using archlinux
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: how do you go back then?
[17:17] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, install VirtualBox extensions, than shut-down and restart your VM
[17:17] <quarkup> i usually just press Ctrl+Alt+F7
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: it should be a command like "logout"
[17:17] <quarkup> wait
[17:18] <quarkup> im checking 1 thing
[17:18] <Myke1> Virtualbox extensions are available at the VBox website?
[17:18] <ironfoot495> HI is there someone who can help fix pear and xml on my machione?
[17:18] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no, if I press ctrl+alt+f1, it works as your way... but what I'm doing is different
[17:18] <quarkup> about the ttys and how to find the tty in which the kdm is asking for login
[17:18] <ironfoot495> machine?
[17:18] <quarkup> i know
[17:18] <quarkup> InvaderZim: the only way to get from the tty1 to the KDM is pressing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[17:18] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, They are available from the status bar in an open VM, look under the icon that looks like a chip
[17:19] <scunizi> Myke1: no.. at the top of the VM guest window there are 3 menus .. one will let you "install" or mount the virtual cdrom containing vbox guest additions..
[17:19] <quarkup> usually a linux box has configured 6 terminals
[17:19] <InvaderZim> quarkup: but seems Console Login kills the "f7 screen"
[17:19] <needhelp1> mike5:  u there?
[17:19] <scunizi> Myke1: are you running kde or gnome?
[17:19] <oCean_> Myke1: you can install the guestadditions through menu option (not sure which one) - it'll download the additions.iso if not already present
[17:19] <InvaderZim> quarkup: all I get is a black screen with blinking cursos on top left
[17:19] <quarkup> so in the 7 and above are the Xorg terminal, the graphic environment
[17:19] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:19] <Stereocaulon> scunizi, This depends on the version of Virtualbox
[17:19] <Myke1> Ubuntu 9.10 (Gnome)
[17:20] <mike5> installed 9.10 for the first time yesterday. then I right-clicked on Wireless iconm selected "Edit connections..."/added in wireless tab, defines SSID, and Wireless security "WPA & WPA2 personal"
[17:20] <Myke1> ok let me look for the menu
[17:20] <quarkup> InvaderZim: weird. it must be a bug. ask it in the ubuntu forums. maybe you have found one bug. !
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, which Guest OS are you running as VM?
[17:20] <scunizi> Stereocaulon: if you mean the difference between -ose and non-free you might be right.. I only run non-free for the usb support
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> scunizi, that might be the difference, yes...
[17:20] <InvaderZim> quarkup: is it better to ask in forums or file a bug?
[17:20] <mike5> needhelp1: I also have "connect automatically" checked and "available to all users"
[17:20] <Myke1> Free BSD
[17:21] <scunizi> Myke1: did you load vbox from the repos or did you get it direct from vbox?
[17:21] <needhelp1> and it wont connect?
[17:21] <needhelp1> mike5:
[17:21] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, I'm not sure if FreeBSD has extensions...
[17:21] <Myke1> From Vbox's website
[17:21] <quarkup> InvaderZim: ask first in the forum. it may be an issue
[17:22] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, did you install a .deb specifically for Ubu 9.10?
[17:22] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:22] <Myke1> Yup
[17:22] <quarkup> InvaderZim: then if nobody has an answer OR if nobody solves the problem, file the bug report ;)
[17:22]  * matelot Is Bazaar a good chioce for single-user to just keep track of changes to files (not projects) ?
[17:22] <Myke1> Everything works just fine, its just that the window doesnt get any bigger then what it is
[17:23] <Stereocaulon> matelot, Bazaar is quite heavy, I'm not sure if it's useful for 1-person "projects"
[17:23] <matelot> Stereocaulon: oh really, that sucks
[17:23] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, did you try setting VM options in VBox before you start the VM?
[17:24] <deanx3> hi.. i want my dns server..update automatically my dynamic ip  in all A records entries...  is the best thing to do , or its better to use CNAME only with dyndns domain?
[17:24] <deanx3>  the ip change very rarely... but i want something update auto
[17:24] <Stereocaulon> matelot, why not use Subversion, or CVS?
[17:24] <jolaren> hello
[17:25] <Stereocaulon> !question | jolaren
[17:25] <mike5> needhelp1: also, if I left click on the wireless icon, and select "connect to hidden wireless network", if I select the connection from combo box, it the data gets filled in other fields except password, but "connect" button is disabled.
[17:25] <matelot> Stereocaulon: SVN has not gui client
[17:26] <jolaren> Stereocaulon; I have no question
[17:26] <matelot> Stereocaulon: cvs is rather "old"
[17:26] <fire_princes> #ubuntu .bg
[17:26] <Myke1> i dont have an option, it let me adjust the window size, but it doesnt get any bigger
[17:26] <oCean_> Stereocaulon: there was no question (yet) in there. No need to throw the !factoids around
[17:26] <fire_princes> could someone give me the link to that bg chat?
[17:27] <bazhang> fire_princes, #ubuntu-bg for bulgaria
[17:27] <fire_princes> thank you!
[17:27] <mosimo> ive got a rather odd problem ive not seen before, If i do "df -h" my partition /dev/sda1 says size: 456G, used 434G, available 0, use 100%
[17:28] <Stereocaulon> matelot, there is an extension for Firefox if you use Tortoise SVN. That will get you a GUI
[17:28] <mosimo> no matter how much stuff i delete it always says available: 0
[17:28] <mosimo> even though the used amount is going down
[17:28] <Lyoko> ñlkjhgfd
[17:28] <Xqtftqx_> hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte
[17:29] <paulproteus> The filesystem reserves some space for root by default
[17:29] <paulproteus> man tune2fs look for reserve
[17:29] <Lyoko> español
[17:29] <matelot> Stereocaulon: Tortoise SVN is awindows client , no ?
[17:29] <ikonia> !es | Lyoko
[17:29] <mosimo> cheers, ill have a look
[17:29] <bazhang> Lyoko, #ubuntu-es
[17:29] <joph> what does LTS mean?
[17:29] <joph> (hardy heron LTS)
[17:29] <ikonia> joph: "long term support"
[17:29] <Lyoko> hello
[17:29] <Stereocaulon> matelot, it also has a Linux-port if I'm not mistaken
[17:29] <Xqtftqx_> is there a special chan for server support?
[17:29] <Lyoko> bonjour
[17:29] <Lyoko> hola
[17:29] <scunizi> !lts | joph
[17:30] <ikonia> Xqtftqx_: ask here or #ubuntu-server
[17:30] <Xqtftqx_> thank you
[17:30] <mosimo> heh, cant run gzip to extract the manual. no space on device, ill look for an online one
[17:30] <Lyoko> Ablo español
[17:30] <ikonia> !es | Lyoko
[17:30] <bazhang> Lyoko, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:30] <Stereocaulon> matelot, sorry about that, you can use RapidSVN in combination with SubVersion
[17:30] <joph> ah thanks ikonia
[17:31] <Lyoko> qwertyuiopñlkjhgfdsazxcvbnm
[17:31] <matelot> Stereocaulon: yeah never heard of RapidSVN, have to check it out...
[17:31] <Lyoko> ffgggg
[17:31] <bazhang> Lyoko, stop that
[17:31] <bazhang> whoops
[17:32] <mosimo> paulproteus: tune2fs, setting the reserve block amount lower sorted it for now, thanks
[17:32] <paulproteus> mosimo, Yay!
[17:32] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, What a delicious polite phrase to kick someone from the channel, I love it...
[17:32] <mosimo> got to fit a bigger hdd in there on monday now
[17:33] <joph> omg it will only take 18 hours to download the desktop iso because i got only 10KB/s
[17:33] <Stereocaulon> joph, whoa, are you on a ISDN-line or something?
[17:33] <InvaderZim> joph: torrent up
[17:33] <scunizi> joph: try the torrent
[17:33] <IdleOne> take you less time to start from scratch
[17:35] <joph> my internet is down to 10KB/s maybe because i didn't pay my provider this month until today
[17:35] <jph_> why would sudo apt-get install apache2 return that if couldn't find a package by that name?
[17:35] <scunizi> jph_: do you want the full lamp stack?
[17:36] <Stereocaulon> joph, that is reasonable, you can still read your text-only e-mail that way.
[17:36] <ikonia> jph_: is there a package called apache2 ?
[17:36] <ikonia> jph_: also make sure you do apt-get update first
[17:36] <jph_> yes but tasksel dosn't list it...
[17:36] <scunizi> jph_: tasksel does list "lamp"
[17:37] <jph_> yea just basic server, ssh and manual
[17:37] <Stereocaulon> joph, You might try to seek an open Wireless Network instead, just ask around with your neighbours.
[17:37] <scunizi> jph_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:37] <jph_> 9.10
[17:37] <joph> ye
[17:37] <InvaderZim> how do you leave tasksel?
[17:37] <M3TVF> anybody running Linrad in Ubuntu
[17:37] <InvaderZim> ctrl c doesnt work
[17:38] <scunizi> jph_: it's there.. there's so much more listed in tasksel on 9.10 it's easy to overlook
[17:38] <Stereocaulon> InvaderZim, did you try 'q'?
[17:38] <jph_> k brb phone call
[17:39] <InvaderZim> Stereocaulon: Q doesnt work
[17:39] <Welshy-Rob_> hi dose anyone know of a pidgin plugin that sets your status as what songs playing in ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[17:40] <InvaderZim> Welshy-Rob_: ask in  #pidgin
[17:40] <boss_mc> Welshy-Rob_: pidgin-musictracker
[17:40] <matelot> Anyone evered used Perforce ?
[17:40] <Welshy-Rob_> InvaderZim, i tried , couldnt connect to channel
[17:41] <Welshy-Rob_> cheers boss_mc
[17:41] <Xfact> I found many useful DNS servers that many company providing, like Google public dns, Opendns etc., can anyone tell me which is the best dns provider that can really stabilize my connection?
[17:42] <ikonia> Xfact: that's not an ubuntu question
[17:42] <unop> Xfact, the best ones are the ones who have the shortest roundtrip time for you -- so benchmark a few and choose the one that suits you well
[17:42] <Tr1n> Xfact:  download namebench, will tell you what server is fastest for you
[17:42] <joph> Stereocaulon thanks for the hint :)
[17:43] <Xfact> thanks, and I believe that was a Ubuntu internet settings related question :)
[17:43] <Stereocaulon> joph, np :-)
[17:43] <Stereocaulon>  My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:43] <joph> Stereocaulon but i have no wlan ^^ i will use torrent because sometimes it stops loading and i need to redownload omg
[17:43] <ikonia> Xfact: no it's not
[17:44] <Xfact> ikonia: I don't want to start a debate, but I think it's your personal opinion :)
[17:44] <ikonia> Xfact: no - it's not, asking which open dns servers are stable is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:44] <ikonia> Xfact: if your dns servers are failing, contact your ISP
[17:44] <Stereocaulon> joph, Maybe one of your neighbours are so kind to download Ubuntu for you and burn it on a disk? Many old folks around here have a 4MB+ ADSL connection just to get some occasional e-mail...
[17:44] <joph> Stereocaulon: did you install jack or something like that?
[17:45] <jellow> anyone know a way to autmaticly reverse ssh tunnel every time i boot
[17:45] <mibmib_> i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded....so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration (i don´t wanna give these documents 777...
[17:45] <mibmib_> ...rights, i guess thats not secure)
[17:45] <FloodBot4> mibmib_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <Xfact> ikonia: actually that wasn't my question, I was asking for batter DNS...
[17:45] <ikonia> mibmib_: you'd have to script that
[17:45] <Stereocaulon> joph, no I didn't install
[17:45] <Stereocaulon> Jack
[17:45] <ikonia> Xfact: yes, and better dns serves are nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:46] <joph> hehe i will download it myself. sometimes i'm a little patient :) well from 26mbit down to 10kb :D that's hard food
[17:46] <ikonia> joph: have you tried using the torrents ? they normally come down quicker
[17:47] <Wipster> Hi, I'm trying to make a boot cd remastering didn't work out too well so I am trying to build from scratch but I am having a few issues with size and I think I am messing something up heh. Can someone lend a hand
[17:47] <joph> i'm just using it
[17:47] <killaxxl> killa
[17:47] <Stereocaulon> joph, that's a good pipe indeed. 26MB/s...If you can't pay it, why not downgrade to some more affordable connection?
[17:48] <Xfact> ikonia: yes it is, Ubuntu runs internet, and faster internet runs on batter DNS, I wanted faster net on my karmic so I asked, so I believe it has relation with Ubuntu and so other peoples answered my question gently, and please don't keep this topic anymore....:)
[17:48] <joph> my download rate is low because my provider has set it that way
[17:49] <killaxxl> recent
[17:49] <IdleOne> Xfact: better is the proper spelling :)
[17:49] <killaxxl> !recent
[17:49] <Stereocaulon> Wipster, try using K3B in order to get a reliable bootable CD.
[17:49] <ikonia> Xfact: please view your private messages as I don't want to take the channel any further offtopic
[17:49] <joph> it's about 19€ per month, it's not that expensive
[17:50] <joph> cable
[17:50] <aboucipu> ...
[17:50] <Wipster> Stereocaulon, thanks, I;l look into it
[17:50] <Stereocaulon> joph, That's pretty good indeed, how's your upload?
[17:50] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: guys - the channels topic is ubuntu support
[17:50] <ikonia> not dsl comparision tests, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic of pm please.
[17:50] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[17:50] <Xfact> IdleOne: where I miss-spelled?
[17:51] <IdleOne> Xfact: in your last two statements.
[17:51] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, OK.
[17:51] <joph> i didn't pay because my money didn't come
[17:51] <killaxxl> theres a package download for fn kays
[17:51] <killaxxl> heys*
[17:51] <joph> ul is just 1mb
[17:51] <killaxxl> keys*
[17:51] <deanx3> is it better to run older version of ubuntu..with 128RAM? or the latest will run properly without gui? for run a server http,smtp,pop3,dns with 20clients max approx?
[17:51] <Xfact> i don't think so...
[17:51] <Stereocaulon> joph, we could discuss this in a Private channel, ikonia is not someone to mess with
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: just run ubuntu 8.04 for stability and disable X11
[17:52] <dart> Hello, since I can install firefox 32bits in ubuntu 9.10 64bits?
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: you'll get solid stability and disabling X will save you some ram
[17:52] <salat> would someone with network knowledge please query me?
[17:52] <joph> hehe np
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: you can, but why do you wnat to ?
[17:52] <ikonia> salat: just ask the channel your question if it's an ubuntu issue
[17:52] <joph> but this is a serious linux problem ;D
[17:53] <ikonia> joph: enough please.
[17:53] <Stereocaulon> I'm trying to enable Japanese (Kana/ Kanji) input on Ubu 9.10. Tried installing every IME and associated font, but no JP input yet...
[17:53] <killaxxl> when you install it didnt ask language?
[17:53] <AshishMalik> How can I check if my UBUNTU can play WOLFENSTEIN game. Whether it meets all System Requirements or Not.
[17:54] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: you're not the only one who's had a problem with that, I've seen a bug on launchpad for jp support if you don't select it at install time
[17:54] <osotogari> @ killaxxl : whats the package name?
[17:54] <ikonia> AshishMalik: what are the system requirements for wolfenstein ?
[17:54] <salat> something is wrong with my crossover connection. seems like my wlan-inet access uses eth0...shouldnt it use its own?
[17:54] <killaxxl> just search function keys
[17:54] <killaxxl> or fn keys
[17:54] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, thanks do you have a link to that bug?
[17:54] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: no, but I'm sure if you search you'll find it
[17:54] <killaxxl> up at the top of the manager
[17:54] <osotogari> @ killaxxl : in synaptic?
[17:54] <killaxxl> yeah
[17:55] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: I believe this was on 8.04 fyi
[17:55] <killaxxl> \i know i saw a package for toshiba just browsing
[17:55] <maverick> Hi I've installed MPlayer and I keep getting the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.67: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory..libx264-67 is the latest version
[17:55] <ikonia> killaxxl: tosh package is hot keys as I recall
[17:55] <AshishMalik> ikonia: 3D hardware accelerator with 32 MB with full open GLSupport
[17:55] <ikonia> AshishMalik: ok - so that's video card requirements, what video card do you have ?
[17:55] <killaxxl> i am pretty sure it had one for fn keys too
[17:56] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I've used it without problems from Ubu 5.04 all the way up till 9.10
[17:56] <AshishMalik> ikonia: I mainly want to check this
[17:56] <eremite> I need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix and out of sync video.
[17:56] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: oh really, so it's just 9.10 casuing you the problem
[17:56] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I'm afraid so.
[17:56] <sdwrage> Hey all, where is the configuration editor in ubuntu 9.10?
[17:56] <sdwrage> i need to edit my splash image
[17:56] <llutz> sdwrage: sudo nano ....
[17:57] <ikonia> !splash | sdwrage
[17:57] <ikonia> sdwrage: splash image is not a quick change, it's quite complex
[17:57] <ikonia> !bootsplash | sdwrage
[17:57] <salat> seems like my wlancard uses eth0...why is this so?
[17:57] <sdwrage> llutz, ikkerus thx :)
[17:57] <Nuxcy> is there anyway to undo crontab -r ?
[17:57] <me___> hi; i'm running 8.04 (LTS) and would like to upgrade to the future; update-manager -d only offer 10.4 for me... how should i upgrade?
[17:57] <deanx3> i will download
[17:57] <ikonia> me___: update-manager -d is for devleopment releases, there is only 10.04 in development so that's why it's offering you 10.04
[17:57] <deanx3> LTS
[17:57] <deanx3> iokonia
[17:58] <killaxxl> ooo i love this channel
[17:58] <me___> ikonia: ah okay. how should i upgrade?
[17:58] <IdleOne> me___: System > Administration > Update Manager and change the setting from LTS only to all
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: are you currently running 8.04 ?
[17:58] <sdwrage> llutz, why the ... ?
[17:58] <me___> yes
[17:58] <Stereocaulon> me___, I'm afraid it's not feasible to upgrade from 8.04 => 9.10 Try a clean install instead
[17:58] <sdwrage> you stated that like I should know this already
[17:58] <me___> i'd have to do all the intermediate upgrades, right?
[17:58] <llutz> sdwrage: to be replaced by a configuration-filename of your choice
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: ok - so update-manager will only offer you the next lts release (10.04) unless you tell it to offer non-lts releases.
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: yes, you have to go through them
[17:58] <eremite> I need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER (or any video player) play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix an out of sync video.
[17:58] <sdwrage> llutz, ah I see :P my bad
[17:58] <killaxxl> lol i just got a funny ass pm
[17:59] <thedlw> I recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?
[17:59] <mibmib_> i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...
[17:59] <sdwrage> llutz, so used to arrogant people thinking others should know what they know. thx for the help ;)
[17:59] <mibmib_> the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded.
[17:59] <me___> okay, changing sources.list one by one is a good way to step through intrepid/what-ever-9.04-was/jaunty?
[17:59] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[17:59] <ikonia> me___: if you open update manager and hit "settings" in the bottom left, you'll see a "release upgrade" drop down at the bottom, change this to "normal releases" rather than lts and it will work
[17:59] <IdleOne> me___: sorry, change LTS only to Normal releases
[17:59] <ikonia> me___: don't change your sources.list - that is the wrong way
[17:59] <xorred> I have / on disk1 and /home on disk2, how do I move / on disk 2 too?
[17:59] <mibmib_> so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration
[17:59] <xorred>  guess a new folder - home - must be created there and /home/content must be moved to /home/, then copy all  from / to disk2 and then run grub?
[18:00] <mibmib_> i don´t wanna give these documents 777 rights, i guess thats not secure
[18:00] <me___> okay, thanks.
[18:00] <Stereocaulon> me___, Mostly it's quicker to just create a backup of your /home drive and do a clean install. If you have to go through every intermediate install, also picking up upgrade bugs of every upgrade in the process...
[18:00] <Thermate> I have some music for this channel.
[18:00] <me___> i can't clean install as i no longer have a cd-drive and can't boot usb...
[18:00] <llutz> eremite: mplayer -delay               (read man-page for further info)
[18:00] <eremite> Music for a help channel?
[18:00] <Thermate> "I will go down with this ship
[18:00] <Thermate> I will raise myh arms
[18:00] <Thermate> and surrender
[18:00] <IdleOne> me___: then you have your answer :)
[18:00] <Thermate> now you won't be able to get it out of your head
[18:01] <xorred> Thermate: fk u
[18:01] <ikonia> me___: follow the instructions I gave you
[18:01] <ikonia> Thermate: stop that please
[18:01] <sdwrage> Thermate, I hate racists
[18:01] <IdleOne> Thermate: stop
[18:01] <me___> ikonia: okay, will d.
[18:01] <me___> *do
[18:01] <Thermate> What did I do wrong?
[18:01] <eremite> sdwrage, WTF are you talking about?
[18:01] <eddym> hey guys how i can i give access to my ubuntu pc to windows pc
[18:01] <Thermate> sdwrage I am not a racist
[18:01] <ikonia> eddym: control the langauge please
[18:01] <sdwrage> eremite, I got a PM
[18:01] <deanx3> any opensource package are available in ubuntu gui.. for automated mouse and keyboard.....  and you can play at schedule later... the mouse and keyboard  you saved early.?
[18:01] <sdwrage> talking about Obama being a N***** from Thermate
[18:02] <ikonia> Thermate: please don't make pointless comments, it's a support channel, help or don't, but don't make pointless noise
[18:02] <eremite> He is.
[18:02] <IdleOne> Thermate: a couple things actually. Using enter key as punctuation, not staying on topic
[18:02] <davi> ciao
[18:02] <eddym> can some1 kick thermate
[18:02] <sdwrage> eremite, again... I hate racism
[18:02] <davi> !lista
[18:02] <eddym> thank you
[18:03] <thedlw> I recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?
[18:03] <IdleOne> eddym: right click on the folder you want to share, click properties and share the folder. Samba will be installed if it is not already. Then you will be able to access that folder from windows
[18:04] <newguy2010> For some reason I cannot access my home room can someone help me
[18:04] <newguy2010> Sorry my home folder
[18:04] <eddym> IdleOne, thanks
[18:04] <IdleOne> eddym: np. if you have any issues just ask in here and someone will try and help
[18:04] <PorbsK> Hi Can anyone tell me how do I enable my SLIP/PPP connection on Kubuntu
[18:05] <n2diy_> ! wireless
[18:05] <newguy2010> I have a new issue, I am not able to save to my home folder it says access denied
[18:05] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, Could you please ban Thermate from this channel, he/ she is harassing me on PM
[18:05] <me___> hmm system >> administration >> update manager doesn't seem to have a 'settings' button?
[18:05] <IdleOne> me___: on the bottom left?
[18:06] <sayanriju> newguy2010, sudo chown -R <yourlogin> /home/<yourlogin>
[18:06] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: it's not in the channel any more, join #freenode and speak to staff
[18:06] <llutz> newguy2010: sudo chown you:you -R /home/you                  you = your username
[18:06] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I will if Thermate continues.
[18:06] <ertyuio> hi there
[18:06] <me___> ah, its in System >> Admin >> Software Sources
[18:06] <sely> can anyone tell me what package contins gtk-config?  i'm using ubuntu 9.10 if it matters
[18:06] <newguy2010> sayanriju--Thanks ill try
[18:06] <IdleOne> me___: yes there also
[18:07] <ertyuio> i need all this package for ubuntu 9.10 i dont know how to find it
[18:07] <killaxxl> newguy2010: have you tied going root?
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[18:07] <FloodBot4> ertyuio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <IdleOne> !feisty
[18:08] <IdleOne> ertyuio: upgrade to a supported release
[18:08] <me___> know of any faster gtk themes than Human, btw?
[18:08] <ertyuio> i neeed all this package for ubuntu 9.10
[18:08] <ertyuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/361385/
[18:08] <Leoneof`> hi, this does work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?
[18:09] <yahya> السلام عليكم
[18:09] <Leoneof`> doesn't*
[18:09] <Leoneof`> this doesn't work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?
[18:09] <sayanriju> ertyuio, those are not packages, they refer to repositories
[18:09] <IdleOne> ertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:09] <ikonia> Leoneof`: iptables-save is the command
[18:09] <llutz> Leoneof`: sudo iptables-save
[18:09] <Leoneof`> oh thanks :)
[18:09] <killaxxl> every one!!! i just snorted a oxycontin!!!
[18:09] <killaxxl> =/
[18:09] <IdleOne> ikonia: ^^
[18:09] <ertyuio> helllo
[18:10] <newguy2010> I received the error "chown: missing operand after `wmy76ram/home/wmy76ram'  after entering sudo chown -R <login>/home/<yourlogin>
[18:10] <ertyuio> is there anyone here ?
[18:10] <ikonia> IdleOne: huh ?
[18:10] <xorred> can I use 6GB of ram with the default i386 release of 9.10? 9.04 used to see only 4
[18:10] <killaxxl> i am here
[18:10] <IdleOne> ikonia: look at killaxxl last few lines
[18:10] <sayanriju> newguy2010, there's a blank space  before /home...
[18:10] <llutz> xorred: you have to use 64bit or pae-kernel
[18:10] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:10] <mobidroid> Hi I just installed Mandriva on my computer which also have ubuntu, I tought the grub file would just be updated and allow me to boot both OS it's not the case. Is there a easy way to add ubuntu on the list? I cant find the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition in order to copy the kernel image stuff, I tried a chainloader but i guess im doing it wrong
[18:11] <newguy2010> thanks trying again
[18:11] <alanmm> hi all, i have a serious problem and could really use some help please!!!!
[18:11] <ikonia> mobidroid: due to grub 2 it no longer works well as a dual boot option
[18:11] <IdleOne> alanmm: please ask
[18:11] <mobidroid> ikonia: ok is tere a way to repair my ubuntu parition?
[18:11] <mobidroid> partition*
[18:11] <zamba> mobidroid: depends what's wrong with it
[18:12] <bartek> hey
[18:12] <ikonia> mobidroid: what's the problem with it ?
[18:12] <IdleOne> hello bartek
[18:12] <mobidroid> well actually the partition should be fine but i just want to boot ubuntu
[18:12] <bartek> i upgrade my ubu 9.04 to 9.10
[18:12] <mobidroid> mandriva only offer mandriva image
[18:12] <bartek> and there's no sound
[18:12] <ertyuio> lot of question without answer
[18:12] <alanmm> i had run out of space on my 10gb drive and .private or something showed as using most of the space so i removed it (dont use it anyway) and now i can't log in with the graphical login and when i do "ls" nothing shows up at all except . and .. and .cache. when i type df the space used is still nearly full so is my files still there do you think?
[18:12] <ertyuio> here
[18:12] <ikonia> mobidroid: you need to edit your mandrakes boot menu for grub
[18:12] <PorbsK> Are Ubuntu  and Kubuntu setting for PPPoE ADSL same ?
[18:12] <ertyuio> where is my answer ?
[18:13] <IdleOne> bartek: run alsmixer in terminal and unmute everything
[18:13] <newguy2010> sayanriju--  now i receive chown: cannot access `/home/wmy76ram/.gvfs': Permission denied
[18:13] <bartek> hmm
[18:13] <IdleOne> ertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:13] <alanmm> this is my work computer so i am kinda screwed if it's messed up :(
[18:13] <sayanriju> mobidroid, read the official help on grub2, and reinstall grub2 using a live cd; then add boot option for Mandriva
[18:13] <bartek> IdleOne, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[18:13] <ertyuio> i just need all this package for 9.10
[18:13] <IdleOne> bartek: hmmm strange
[18:13] <sayanriju> newguy2010, now retry accessing your home directory
[18:13] <bartek> i know;/
[18:14] <IdleOne> !sound | bartek see if this helps some
[18:14] <mobidroid> ikonia, yup, but i'm stock at the name of the kernel and image path, I mounted the ubuntu partition trying to find the "old menu list" but didnt find it to copy paste the old settings so is there a default image that i should use?
[18:14] <_if_> mobidroid: maybe supergrub can help?
[18:14] <bartek> bash: !sound: event not found
[18:14] <ikonia> mobidroid: don't copy and paste your grub 2 options to grub one,  just add the ubuntu entries to your mandriva grub boot list
[18:14] <mobidroid> sayanriju: but who is using grub2 ? ubuntu or madriva? i see grub 1.5 when it boot
[18:14] <IdleOne> bartek: foolow the link and info ubottu just gave you :)
[18:14] <IdleOne> follow*
[18:14] <bartek> ok, thx ubottu
[18:14] <sayanriju> mobidroid, ubuntu 9.10 uses grub2, mandriva uses 1.5
[18:15] <ikonia> mobidroid: you're using the mandriva grub, so that's the one you ned to edit
[18:15] <ikonia> sayanriju: he's using grub 1
[18:15] <sayanriju> ikonia, yes, because he installed mandriva after ubuntu
[18:15] <ikonia> sayanriju: yes
[18:15] <joph> alanmm: did you type in cd / before looking for files?
[18:15] <bartek> reboot
[18:15] <newguy2010> sayanriju:  OK on home folder but trying to put file there to install program and get this error  Error moving file: Permission denied
[18:15] <berserk_ren> yo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T
[18:15] <mobidroid> ikonia: yep lets me put on pastebin some info about my stuff
[18:15] <alanmm> joph: no. if i do that then i get lots of stuff like dev mnt usr home etc
[18:16] <salem_caen> #ubuntu-fr
[18:16] <alanmm> i can log in in the black console
[18:16] <sayanriju> ikonia, mobidroid so he should perhaps restore the ubuntu grub, and then add a boot option for mandriva
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: why ?
[18:16] <sayanriju> ikonia, coz grub2>grub1.5
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: ubuntu won't be able to update any mandriva options due to how grub 2 works, mandriva will
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: no it's not
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: why is grub2 better than grub 1 ?
[18:16] <alanmm> but not the graphical window.. just goes back to the login window after a few seconds
[18:16] <joph> so what is missing?
[18:16] <sayanriju> not better, later version
[18:17] <ikonia> sayanriju: so ??? why does that mean its better to use
[18:17] <alanmm> joph: when i log in, if i type ls it shows ., .., .cache
[18:17] <berserk_ren> yo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T I
[18:17] <berserk_ren>  using ubuntu 9.04
[18:17] <ikonia> sayanriju: if version numbers ar eyou deciding factor I suggest you look at how you evaluate software
[18:17] <PorbsK> is "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf' gonna also work for Kubuntu ?
[18:17] <alanmm> joph: nothing else. until i removed .private it had Documents, Desktop, etc etc etc
[18:17] <sayanriju> ikonia, perhaps you should suggest the ubuntu devs the same thing
[18:17] <IdleOne> PorbsK: it should
[18:17] <PorbsK> ok
[18:18] <IdleOne> PorbsK: you could ask in #kubuntu
[18:18] <ikonia> sayanriju: they chose it for a different reason, grub 1 is better for his dual boot options
[18:18] <sayanriju> personally, /me feels grub2 is plain half-baked
[18:18] <joph> alanmm: but u wanted to delete it and now complain about that?
[18:18] <mobidroid> ikonia: http://pastebin.fr/6640
[18:18] <bartek> lol
[18:18] <newguy2010> cant save to home folder.  I get access denied.  I am the administrator.
[18:18] <bartek> now it works
[18:18] <bartek> :)
[18:18] <IdleOne> bartek: happy to hear it.
[18:19] <mobidroid> I know that the ubuntu partition is the first partition
[18:19] <IdleOne> bartek: what did you change?
[18:19] <joph> berserk_ren: try the ati drivers and build distro specific packages
[18:19] <mAriachi> hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:19] <alanmm> joph: no, there was a folder called .private or .Private or Private or something.. it was showing as taking all the space and i don't use it so I deleted it but it deleted EVERYTHING like documents etc that were not in the "private" folder
[18:19] <sayanriju> ikonia, actually IMHO, both grub2 and 1.5 are ok for his purpose, but let's not argue :)
[18:19] <PorbsK> My ethernet device just wont get started while in Kubuntu is there any way to get it work it's attached to motherboard
[18:19] <bartek> i changed in menu.lst kernel number
[18:19] <ikonia> sayanriju: really - ok, how would mandriva update the grub options that are stored on ubuntu's /etc partition ?
[18:19] <bartek> because i did upgrade from 9,04 to 9,10
[18:19] <berserk_ren> joph, i've tried many times... i usen Envy too
[18:20] <IdleOne> bartek: ok.
[18:20] <bartek> and grub doesn't change idk why
[18:20] <mobidroid> sayanriju , ikonia: any idea what i need to put in my menu.lst?
[18:20] <ikonia> mobidroid: you're ubuntu boot options, kernel/initrd etc etc
[18:20] <joph> alanmm: why do you think, was that folder so big?
[18:21] <joph> did you even look into it before deleting?
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: no idea.. but it was empty
[18:21] <berserk_ren> also tried open source driver - but opsource drv is sucks... it wasnt workig for unknown reason
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: yes, was empty
[18:21] <mobidroid> ikonia that's the part I really don't know.. I just know its karmic koala :S
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: i don't understand why it went wrong
[18:22] <ikonia> mobidroid: mount your ubuntu partition, look at the /boot partition and get the kernel and initrd details from there
[18:22] <bartek> hmm
[18:22] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:22] <alanmm> im not supposed to be able to mess with files on this computer that im not allowed to i think because it's encrypted
[18:22] <bartek> which player is good to listen radio?
[18:22] <alanmm> so it shouldn't be messed up
[18:23] <mAriachi> bartek: Exaile
[18:23] <alanmm> not too badly anyway        :)
[18:23] <IdleOne> bartek: vlc works nice for me
[18:23] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:23] <bartek> ok, i'll try
[18:23] <mobidroid> ikonia: look http://pastebin.fr/6641 Iv'e put the listing of my ubuntu boot folder, is that what i need?
[18:23] <erpo> I want to simulate dialup speeds on my laptop when I'm surfing from my home broadband connection. I've tried traffic shaping with the tc command, but that only limits upstream speeds. Suggestions?
[18:23] <alanmm> joph: the total space available still shows as almost 100% so the files are still there somewhere
[18:24] <joph> alanmm: not every folder that looks empty to you at the first sight is really empty
[18:24] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:24] <alanmm> joph: ok
[18:24] <goog1jh> mAriachi: maybe there are two sound-devices in your box...
[18:24] <alanmm> joph: any possibility to reverse what i did?
[18:24] <ikonia> mobidroid: yes that has your kernels
[18:24] <mobidroid> ikonia: and wich one is the good one?!?!
[18:24] <mAriachi> googljh: i don't quite understand you
[18:24] <ikonia> mobidroid: that latest versions in /boot
[18:25] <mAriachi> googljh: which box?
[18:25] <joph> alanmm: okay they will be hidden in some . <- prefixed folders
[18:25] <alanmm> why would there be a folder that seems huge but not have any files in it be so important??
[18:25] <bartek> mAriachi, exaile works good :) thanks
[18:25] <goog1jh> your computer, mAriachi...
[18:25] <mobidroid> ok
[18:25] <alanmm> joph: there is a .cache but its empty
[18:25] <joph> like the ones in /home/yourusername
[18:25] <Wipster> If I am making a livecd and I need a customised kernel should I make the kernel in the livecd chroot? that means downloading all of the packages for compiling...
[18:25] <mAriachi> bartek: np anytime, anywhere
[18:25] <joph> alanmm: i dunno
[18:25] <alanmm> joph: ls /home/alanmm shows ., .. and .cache
[18:26] <alanmm> argh
[18:26] <alexande1> hi
[18:26] <alanmm> :,(
[18:26] <mAriachi> googljh: it's a notebok
[18:26] <mobidroid> ikonia: is the "root=UUID=" stuff usefull?!
[18:26] <joph> ikonia: can he reverse deleting the private folder?
[18:26] <goog1jh> mAriachi: check how many playback-devices you have..maybe every output got his own device?
[18:27] <ikonia> joph: pardon ?
[18:27] <alanmm> i didn't put annything in the private folder !!
[18:27] <ikonia> mobidroid: you can use that, but I'd just use device names at this time
[18:27] <mAriachi> googjlh: tried every combination, doesnt work
[18:27] <joph> alanmm: and do your applications still start?
[18:27] <alanmm> joph: i can't log in
[18:27] <alanmm> joph: except in the black screen
[18:28] <joph> alanmm: gimma an example of what application you have installed
[18:28] <alanmm> ehhh
[18:28] <alanmm> firefox
[18:28] <goog1jh> mAriachi: do you use alsa or oss?
[18:28] <naruto_pr0> hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?
[18:28] <joph> ikonia: alanmm has deleted some directories and wants to know if he can undo that
[18:28] <joyce_> When I try this, I'm getting a regex could not be compiled error. Can some one plz tell me why? <FilesMatch  "(?<!(gif|jpeg|png|swf|ico|php))$">
[18:28] <mAriachi> googljh: i've got to the point of muting the headphones when they are plugged, but the speakers continue playing, if i dont mute the headphones, the headphones (external speakers) and internal speakers play at the same time
[18:28] <ikonia> joph: probably not
[18:28] <mAriachi> i have both
[18:28] <rafael_> hello i need to apply a patch to modem manager but when i try to get the source it says that the directory couldn't be found
[18:29] <mAriachi> googljh: i have both
[18:29] <mAriachi> googljh: realtek is the OSS, the other is Nvidia HDA Alsa
[18:29] <naruto_pr0> rafael_, sudo apt-get update
[18:29] <joph> alanmm: try it with "ls -a"
[18:29] <rafael_> if i update, do i get the patches?
[18:29] <mobidroid> ikonia: do you think it's this is ok : http://pastebin.fr/6642
[18:29] <alanmm> im gonna try leaving it switched off for a while
[18:29] <alanmm> joph: ., .., .cache
[18:30] <ouyes> finally, i installed ubuntu to my sd card sucessfully and now i am runing it .
[18:30] <alanmm> . .. .cache
[18:30] <naruto_pr0> rafael_, maybe just try it
[18:30] <ikonia> mobidroid: seems enough to boot it you'll need your root= linux too
[18:30] <joph> alanmm: "cd /home/alanmm" ... then ... "ls -a"
[18:30] <alanmm> same
[18:30] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:30] <alanmm> joph: same
[18:30] <mobidroid> ikonia: is root (hd0,1) enought?
[18:30] <Johnny_Smith_14> test
[18:31] <ikonia> mobidroid: no
[18:31] <mobidroid> ikonia: argg any idea how i find the root info?
[18:31] <joph> empty?
[18:31] <naruto_pr0> hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?
[18:31] <ikonia> mobidroid: come on ???? you know what disk your root file system is on
[18:31] <e3co> any upstart experts in here?
[18:31] <ikonia> e3co: just ask the question
[18:32] <karma_police> whats the easiest way to only display linux and windows in grub dualboot/
[18:32] <ikonia> naruto_pr0: how did you upgrade it to 3.6 ?
[18:32] <ikonia> karma_police: remove the entries you don't want from the grub menu.lst
[18:32] <joph> alanmm: is it empty? is there another folder in /home/ ?
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: wtf. there is a whole bunch of stuff in ../.Private
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: yeah
[18:32] <ikonia> alanmm: please control your language
[18:32] <karma_police> i think i have grub2.. how do i get to the list?
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: /home/.Private
[18:32] <alanmm> and /home/.ecryptfs
[18:33] <ikonia> karma_police: look in /etc/grub
[18:33] <alanmm> ikonia: sos!
[18:33] <e3co> I am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot wont to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is not inittab anymore
[18:33] <ouyes> karma_police,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:33] <mAriachi> karma_police: if you want to remove older kernels, use the Synaptic to uninstall them
[18:33] <naruto_pr0> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[18:33] <e3co> wont=want
[18:33] <scunizi> karma_police: like ikonia said.. but the alternative is to just comment them out with #
[18:33] <joph> :)
[18:33] <[B]randon> Check out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to brandon@nlsecurity.org Thanks!
[18:33] <alanmm> joph: but not my files.. just random stuff
[18:33] <karma_police> i've removed the kernals.. just want to get rid of memtest and recovery
[18:33] <[B]randon> Check out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to brandon@nlsecurity.org Thanks!
[18:33] <e3co> basically I am building a Terminal Server client for work
[18:33] <mobidroid> ikonia: hmmm well it's all on the same partition / disk?! I'm lost now
[18:34] <scunizi> karma_police: that's not a good idea
[18:34] <mAriachi> karma_police: edit the grub.cfg with su privileges
[18:34] <PorbsK> I'm havin a lot of probs with Kubuntu but I wish to continue with it so is anyone able t configure their PPPoE broadband with Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:34] <ouyes> how to remove the old kernel since a update
[18:34] <alanmm> joph: /home/alanmm/.ecryptfs/alanm/private etc etc
[18:34] <alanmm> arggggggggg
[18:34] <joph> alanmm: can't you log in to X?
[18:34] <karma_police> i may just comment them out
[18:34]  * matelot I want to install a software and here is my questioin: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168931/
[18:34] <mAriachi> karma_police: i wouldt suggest it either, memtest is a needy and powerful tool
[18:34] <ikonia> mobidroid: root for mandriva is not on the same partition as ubuntu
[18:34] <ikonia> mobidroid: look at the entries in /etc/grub on your ubuntu partition
[18:34] <karma_police> may just leave it alone then :)
[18:34] <mAriachi> ouyes: use the Synaptic to uninstall them
[18:35] <alanmm> joph: if X is the desktop then no, i can't.. just goes to the login window again. i can login when i go to ctrl alt f1
[18:35] <karma_police> was just trying to clean up the grub menu a bit
[18:35] <joph> alanmm: did you find it?
[18:35] <alanmm> joph: find what?
[18:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: just type in the name of the kernel you want removed and uninstall them
[18:35] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:36] <trism> karma_police: if you just want to remove memtest from the menu but leave it installed you can just sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+; sudo update-grub;
[18:36] <e3co>  I am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot want to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is no inittab anymore? I am building a terminal server client for work.
[18:36] <Wipster> if I am making a livecd and I need to run a customised kernel do I need to build it in the chroot or elsewhere? my cd size ends up huge
[18:36] <ouyes> mAriachi,  ok il try , i think you way will do
[18:36] <ikonia> Wipster: custom kernels are not supported
[18:36] <mAriachi> ouyes: yep, it's the way I did it :D
[18:37] <Wipster> ikonia, yeh I know but is that how you would build it? its the process I'm having issue with
[18:38] <ikonia> Wipster: within the chrooot
[18:38] <joph> alanmm: find your files
[18:38] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:38] <joph> afk
[18:38] <PorbsK> Should I remove Kubuntu and install Ubuntu ? I'm having network probs with Kubuntu :(
[18:38] <kudo> ciao
[18:39] <Wipster> ikonia, ok thanks is there a way I can aptitude purge all modules installed to be able to compile the kernel once its done? or will I have to write them all down?
[18:39] <ouyes> mAriachi,  but i am wandering if there are any problem to have two kernels at the same time ?
[18:39] <mAriachi> porbsk: that will not solve your problems, they run on the same core, only the desktop is different, Kubuntu uses KDE desktop environment, Ubuntu uses GNOME
[18:39] <alanmm> joph: nope :(
[18:39] <ikonia> Wipster: remove them manually
[18:39] <alanmm> joph: i think this problem is more complex than i can handel
[18:40] <jolaren23> how do I ssh within the local area network?
[18:40] <mAriachi> ouyes: none whatsoever, it's just to remove them if you think your grub menu is crowded
[18:40] <mobidroid> ikonia: howww I think i understand what you mean, my grub config is not just the 4 lines on pastebin I only add those 4 lines all the mandriva config stuff is still there is this why you say there is missing stuff?
[18:40] <alanmm> joph: i might get my work laptop "stolen" or "dropped accidentally" :/
[18:40] <ikonia> mobidroid: sounds good
[18:40] <Wipster> ikonia, ouch - ok thanks for your help I'l see how I get on
[18:40] <ouyes> in the gparted there is a manage flag, what is it ?
[18:40] <ikonia> Wipster: sorry
[18:40] <Tm_T> jolaren23: "ssh computername" ?
[18:41] <jolaren23> hm ok will try that
[18:41] <mAriachi> porbsk: what kind of network problems are you experiencing?
[18:41] <PorbsK> So is there3 no way to make PPPoE work and start my Net ? I remember ubuntu 8.10 being able to connect PPPoE with SLIP config without any extra need
[18:41] <JJR> hi room
[18:41] <the_real_dave> !hi | JJR
[18:41] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yep i delete some of the entries related to an old kernel in the grub file
[18:41] <JJR> ")
[18:42] <JJR> got a little problem here configurating my display....
[18:42] <mAriachi> porbsk: you need to edit the network connection, right click then properties on the network manager applet, then go to wired, and edit the credentials
[18:42] <JJR> anyone willning to help
[18:42] <mAriachi> JJR: just ask your question
[18:42] <barf> Noen i BIOS avdelingen her?
[18:42] <barf> Jeg har en PC som er helt ny
[18:42] <alanmm> PorbsK: i had problem with kubuntu before with the network and it worked fine with the same ubuntu but without the k :)
[18:43] <JJR> well when i open "configure display" meny is empty
[18:43] <barf> Den kan kun boote fra SATA HDD og IDE CDROM, jeg prøver å boote den fra Memory Stick, og SATA CDROM men det funker ikke
[18:43] <JJR> also in my x11.conf file there is nothing
[18:43] <mAriachi> JJR: have you installed the drivers?
[18:43] <zob> barf think you should ask norwegian or danish questions in corresponding forums
[18:43] <alanmm> barf: ta det på svenska / dansk / norsk kanalen
[18:43] <ADjames> whats a good open source software to monitor a server's hardware load from a windows machine on an offsite location?
[18:43] <JJR> well i have intel 4500m card and as far as i know drivers came w/ karnell
[18:43] <alanmm> barf: danks i gues
[18:44] <PorbsK> I did all things I confiugre DSL settings in Kubuntu then configured KPPP too but it just don't find the network
[18:44] <JJR> im w/ 2.6.30.9
[18:44] <mAriachi> JJR: go to system, then to Hardware drivers, and see whether or not you have some drivers to install
[18:44] <JJR> well
[18:44] <alanmm> #ubuntu.dk
[18:44] <mAriachi> porbsk: write the nickname of the person you are reffering to first
[18:44] <JJR> it says that i have everything
[18:44] <mAriachi> JJR: write the nickname before anything else
[18:44] <alanmm> PorbsK: it's plugged in? ;)
[18:45] <mAriachi> JJR: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[18:45] <Ferris-> is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to karmic like i did intrepid to jaunty last night?
[18:45] <JJR> intel 4500m
[18:45] <alanmm> joph: i am screwed then right?
[18:45] <PorbsK> I m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable
[18:46] <e3co> I would like to know how to modify upstart so that instead of the user seeing a login: prompt my script is automatically loaded (rrdesktop)(revisedrdesktop) and the user is brought off a live cd to my terminal server.
[18:46] <PorbsK> alanmm: I m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable
[18:46] <jolaren23> is it possible to scan ssh within lan?
[18:46] <JJR> mAriachi : i have intel 4500m
[18:46] <mobidroid> ikonia: just to be sure before i reboot can you double check my grub conf: http://pastebin.fr/6643
[18:46] <alanmm> PorbsK: like, look at the cable.. is it connected to the computer or not? :)
[18:46] <mAriachi> ferris- yes there is: sudo update-manager -d
[18:46] <LuizAquino> Hi everyone. Does Ubuntu comes, by default, with some GUI tools to see our hardware? Before Ubuntu 8.04 I used gnome-device-manager.
[18:47] <ouyes> i can copy files to an ext4 external hard disk
[18:47] <PorbsK> Yes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows
[18:47] <Ferris-> thank you mAriachi
[18:47] <ouyes> i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk
[18:47] <alanmm> omg i am so dead on monday.. trashed my linux computer which isn't supposed to be possible according it internal it
[18:47] <ouyes> i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why?
[18:47] <alanmm> HOW CAN THIS HAPPPEN?
[18:47] <mAriachi> JJR: open terminal, sudo apt-get install xsever-xorg-intel-video
[18:47] <PorbsK> alanmm:Yes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows
[18:47] <mAriachi> ferris: np
[18:47] <JJR> mariachi: ok
[18:48] <paulus68> how do I configure Irssi in order to auto connect to the server and for which user?
[18:48] <jolaren23> Does anyone know if it is possible to scan after ssh servers in my network?
[18:49] <IdleOne> paulus68: #irssi should be able to help with that
[18:49] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: scan to find all ssh servers, or just ping an IP?
[18:49] <ouyes> hi does anybody know this?  i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why? also when you in that partition right click the mouser there is no creat folder option
[18:49] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; My htpc is setup with ssh but I don't know how to find it
[18:49] <vita> Hi
[18:50] <joph> alanmm: i'm back
[18:50] <PorbsK> alanmm: I have 2 network devices one plugged with cable other is unused.they hsow up in Kubuntu eth0 and eth1 eth0 has an icon with cable in some box
[18:50] <vita> I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:50] <mAriachi> ouyes: right click the drive and go to permissions, do you have read and write permissions? by you, i mean your user name
[18:50] <e3co> livecd question  / if I add a rc.local to /etc/skel/rc.local  will the live user "ubuntu" automatically run anything i put in there?
[18:51] <paulus68> IdleOne: thanks
[18:51] <joph> alanmm: your apt-get is still working right?
[18:51] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: You should be able to go into your router's settings and find the local IP addresses. Try going to 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.0.1 in your browser
[18:51] <ouyes> mAriachi,  it says root
[18:51] <vita> I guess that there is something more to configure. But I fail to find it. Any ideas?
[18:51] <sunrunner20> does ubuntu auto detect hardware changes each time at boot?
[18:51] <sakthivel> hi..my desktop doesnot connect internet after logout or suspend.. why
[18:51] <ouyes> mAriachi,  what can do with this?
[18:51] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; I have a switch
[18:51] <mAriachi> ouyes: try with a different file browser from root
[18:51] <the_real_dave> ouyes: post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:52] <mAriachi> ouyes: sudo nautilus
[18:52] <sunrunner20> sakthivel: have you tried restarting the interface?
[18:52] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}
[18:52] <mkquist> ouyes: try opening nautilus with sudo and change the permissions
[18:52] <sakthivel> restarting no problem ,, it will connect internet...
[18:52] <sunrunner20> or looking at ipconfig (or ifconfig i get them confused)
[18:52] <mAriachi> ouyes: you need to take ownership of the drive and the files, in other words to change permissions, i dont quite remeber the command, gimme a sec
[18:52] <JJR> mAriachi: well it says "Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-intel-video"
[18:52] <PorbsK> Someone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[18:53] <sunrunner20> sakthivel: not the whole machine, just the interface (or did you phrase that weirdly)
[18:53] <Dimitrius> Boa tarde
[18:53] <mAriachi> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:53] <PorbsK> I'll just restart and try and call it a day
[18:53] <mAriachi> JJR: try this then
[18:53] <the_real_dave> ouyes: you want to use a command like sudo chmod -Rv 777 /media/xxx to change the permissions of your drive to be read by everyone
[18:53] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}
[18:53] <mAriachi> JJR: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:54] <sakthivel> i think ubuntu doenot connect internet after logout and login
[18:54] <Dimitrius> Algum brasileiro?
[18:54] <mAriachi> ouyes: that's the command, what the real dave said
[18:54] <mAriachi> ouyes: but first try with nautilus
[18:54] <JJR> mAriachi :well i heve already the newest version of the drivers
[18:54] <ouyes> mAriachi, mkquist  the_real_dave  thanks
[18:54] <vita> I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:54] <Wind0pain> what's an ISO burner for ubuntu?
[18:55] <PorbsK>  Someone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[18:55] <LuizAquino> Ubuntu 9.04 doesn't come with gnome-device-manager. Is there some another GUI tool, by default, to know our hardware?
[18:55] <the_real_dave> ouyes: using nautilus as root will not solve the problem, the files copied there will then be owned by root. Its much better to use the above command to change the permissions and write the files as your user
[18:55] <JJR> mAriachi: i thing the problem i s in my x11-conf fire , when i open it it say only defout card defout monitor and not mine
[18:55] <mAriachi> JJR: don't know anything else you can do then, appart from downloading a custom xorg.cfg for you
[18:55] <sakthivel> normally ubuntu is autodetecting internet when my computer. during logout and login it wil not resume
[18:55] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:55] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: I'm guessing you cant hook up a monitor?
[18:56] <JJR> mAriachi :ok thanks pall
[18:56] <PorbsK> Thanks for all the help have a nice day :D
[18:56] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; I guess I could, would be easier the other way around thought.. but sure
[18:56] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: if you can, use the command ifconfig to see your IP address, presuming your using linux that is
[18:56] <mAriachi> JJR: np dude, anytime
[18:57] <azerty3> hi ther
[18:57] <LuizAquino> Dimitrius: Yes, I am.
[18:57] <JJR> any one how to create custom x11.conf with mine graphic card,monitor, etc. ....?
[18:57] <mAriachi> azerty3: just post a question, dude
[18:57] <mAriachi> azerty3: hi
[18:57] <Dimitrius> Algum brasileiro ai?
[18:57] <azerty3> i need this pakage deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main for ubuntu 9.10 how to get it ?
[18:58] <LuizAquino> Dimitrius: Me! :)
[18:58] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: you could try pinging all the addresses starting from 1?
[18:58] <mAriachi> azerty3: change the feisty-commercial with karmic
[18:58] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: but that would be quite some effort
[18:58] <vita>  I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:58] <ouyes> mAriachi,  your way is the easiest and also works thanks
[18:59] <mAriachi> ouyes: np dude, but i think you should consider changing the permissions, and taking ownership of the files :D
[18:59] <azerty3> you mean this ? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic-commercial main
[18:59] <chowder> anyone try lucid? I'm having some problems with locales. I tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf but I get an error message saying that it isn't installed. I try to install localeconf but its not in the repos. Anyone else encounter this problem?
[18:59] <LuizAquino> azerty3: You can add this repository in your list: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories
[18:59] <mAriachi> azerty3: exactly
[18:59] <ouyes> mAriachi,  but there is some warnings came out
[18:59] <IdleOne> chowder: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[18:59] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[18:59] <mAriachi> ouyes: right click the drive while in nautilus
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: go to properties
[19:00] <berserk_ren> open source driver doesnt help... nintendo DS emulator running games very slow T_T
[19:00] <the_real_dave> ouyes: using sudo nautilus will not be persistant, you'll have to use that everytime. Your much better off to take ownership of the files
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: permisions
[19:00] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yes  i changed that ,by the porperties and its permission
[19:00] <azerty3> no not working
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: then change the permissions
[19:00] <azerty3> it give this E: Couldn't find package deb
[19:00] <kvaps> \join ubuntu-ru
[19:00] <kvaps> упс =)
[19:00] <mAriachi> azerty3: you need to add the package source in the software sources
[19:00] <IdleOne> azerty3: what are you trying to install?
[19:00] <mAriachi> azerty3: not in termianl
[19:01] <azerty3> LuizAquino:  doing it synaptics it give lots of result, i dont know what to choose ?
[19:01] <azerty3> i try to install freepbx
[19:01] <ouyes> mAriachi, i just specify the name of me instead root
[19:01] <LuizAquino> azerty3: Just a minute...
[19:01] <ouyes> mAriachi,  is that changing the permission for ever?
[19:01] <mAriachi> ouyes: your name should have read&write permissions
[19:01] <LuizAquino> azerty3: See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[19:02] <the_real_dave> ouyes: any files written after that will be owned by those who wrote them :)
[19:02] <ouyes> mAriachi,  never mind it is in a group, so he has the group's permission
[19:02] <LuizAquino> azerty3: Another source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:02] <Rubber_> Bof
[19:03] <Rubber_> y a des francais ?
[19:03] <IdleOne> !fr | Rubber_
[19:03] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  if i go to mount it on another pc?
[19:03] <Rubber_> bien ubottu
[19:03] <ouyes> the_real_dave, even  if i go to mount it on another pc?
[19:03] <mAriachi> ouyes: you will need to open nautilus again
[19:03] <azerty3> c'est super ubuntu
[19:03] <mAriachi> ouyes: do the chmod in terminal
[19:03] <Rubber_> azerty arrete ...
[19:04] <ouyes> mAriachi,  ok
[19:04] <azerty3> thx a lot my friend LuizAquino
[19:04] <Rubber_> j arrive plus a rien l asp passe pas
[19:04] <azerty3> i understand it
[19:04] <LuizAquino> azerty3: You're welcome. :)
[19:04] <sunrunner20> berserk_ren: DS emulation isn't exactly fast or good... period
[19:04] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Yup. If you wrote the file as one user, it stays as that user. Then again, you can always change the permissions from the other computer too
[19:05] <e3co> nevermind .. I figured it out.
[19:05] <Rubber_> ubuntu  fr on fait commernt mon irc est plus a jour
[19:05] <berserk_ren> sunrunner20, it's not specially DS, some other games is slow to... those with openGL =|
[19:05] <ramiro> how do I install a package to some other --prefix? (that would be the equivalent of "make DESTDIR=myprefix install"). I don't need any prerm or postinst to run, I just need the files the package gives me
[19:05] <mAriachi> !Македонија 4евер!
[19:05] <Rubber_> la commande
[19:05] <IdleOne> Rubber_: tape /join Z#ubuntu-fr
[19:05] <IdleOne> -Z
[19:05] <Rubber_> idleone
[19:05] <Rubber_> te mon sauveur
[19:05] <IdleOne> de rien.
[19:05] <berserk_ren> ill try fglrx ...
[19:06] <Rubber_> Z ?
[19:06] <Audible> whats the "best" html editor in ubuntu current? dont answer vim or nano ;)
[19:06] <IdleOne> sans le Z
[19:06] <Rubber_> lool
[19:06] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I would advise using chmod to recursively change the files to allow them to be accessed by anyone, if your using the drive one other computers
[19:06] <ramiro> Audible: kate
[19:06] <Rubber_> trop fort
[19:06] <Rubber_> un jour je serais enfant
[19:06] <T-b0b> Audible: quanta
[19:06] <bala> in my linux sound s not coming... some 1 help me...
[19:06] <berserk_ren> bala,  wich soundcard?
[19:06] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  i did it already , thanks mate
[19:07] <rafael_> ok, i tried to patch modemmanager but i got the error permission denied
[19:07] <vita> Could someone help me how to report bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ ? All I see is useless and confusing crap. In earlier version, there was button "Report bug," Not it is missing and I feel like in maze. Whenever I move to, I get nowhere.
[19:07] <Agnul> hi
[19:07] <ouyes> mAriachi,  thanks
[19:07] <ramiro> bala: are the speakers powered on and plugged in to your computer?
[19:07] <Rubber_> ça passe pas
[19:07] <mAriachi> ouyes: can you copy to and from the drive now?
[19:07] <IdleOne> !bug | vita
[19:07] <the_real_dave> ouyes: no worries :)
[19:07] <mAriachi> ouyes: np, anytime
[19:07] <vita> !bug
[19:07] <Rubber_> le "/join ubuntu.fré
[19:07] <Rubber_> oups
[19:07] <bala> yes ramiro
[19:07] <IdleOne> Rubber_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:07] <vita> IdleOne: thanks
[19:08] <mAriachi> Rubber_: this is not a chat channel: please do not flood
[19:08] <Rubber_> idleone
[19:08] <Rubber_> je colle ta reponse
[19:08] <bala> in windows sound is coming... ramiro
[19:08] <ouyes> mAriachi, i am copying  now
[19:08] <erdemoztrk> hello there
[19:08] <erdemoztrk> Does anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?
[19:08] <mAriachi> bala: which soundcard do you have?
[19:08] <JJR> how properly to edint my x11.conf file accorting my confugoration...? anyone willling to help me
[19:09] <Rubber_> lool Idleone
[19:09] <Rubber_> personne mle calcule
[19:09] <Rubber_> la bas
[19:09] <ouyes> the_real_dave, mAriachi ,how can i mount a ext4 in windows? i am worried somebody would see my ext4 partition
[19:09] <bala> i dont know... how to check it??? mariachi
[19:09] <Rubber_> J aurais du faire englais
[19:09] <rafael_> i tried to patch modem manager but i got permission denied error
[19:09] <ramiro> ouyes: anyone with physical acces to your computer cn see your ext4 partition
[19:10] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont think that it is possible, maybe with some update to windows
[19:10] <mAriachi> bala: aplay -l in a termnial
[19:10] <erdemoztrk> Does anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?
[19:10] <Rubber_> CE KOI FREENODE ?
[19:10] <mAriachi> kick Rubber_ please
[19:10] <ramiro> ouyes: unless you encrypt your files, there's no way to prevent someone with physical access to your computer to read everything you have. the only way is to make sure that person is dumb and incapable of googling =)
[19:11] <ardchoille> !french | Rubber_
[19:11] <ouyes> ramiro,  but you insert the hd under windows ,it is not be found or recognized by the OS
[19:11] <Rubber_> mariachi on taqime l aim espingouin
[19:11] <IdleOne> mAriachi: why?
[19:11] <the_real_dave> ouyes: you cant. You can mount ext3 in Windows, but its much safer to use NTFS on your external harddrive, Linux plays much nicer with NTFS than WIndows does with ext ;)
[19:11] <Rubber_> l ami
[19:11] <greenjellow> hellow
[19:11] <Rubber_> ubottu ce l enbfer la bas
[19:11] <ardchoille> Rubber_:  ce channelis anglais seulement. S'il vous plaît aller à # ubuntu-fr
[19:11] <mAriachi> IdleOne: flooding and speaking french on an english channel
[19:11] <greenjellow> hello?
[19:12] <IdleOne> Rubber_: svp, parle en anglais dans ce canal.
[19:12] <mAriachi> greenjellow: just state your issue dude :D
[19:12] <greenjellow> cool :)
[19:12] <IdleOne> mAriachi: he is having issues joining the french channel.
[19:12] <Rubber_> i ll bze back idleone
[19:12] <ramiro> ouyes: so? the files are there anyways. even using a hex editor you will be able to see them. more sophysticated programs will be able to mount it on windows just like another drive
[19:12] <greenjellow> it's with the ps3
[19:12] <akaedu> xubuntu
[19:12] <greenjellow> ubuntu
[19:12] <mAriachi> greenjellow: spare the pleasantries xD
[19:12] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  no mate ,most of my personal time i am under ubuntu
[19:13] <greenjellow> petitboote freezes when i boot linux
[19:13] <grey> I kinda deleted my boot sector my laptop... Is there a way to kind of make a live CD only to install GRUB?
[19:13] <greenjellow> no idea why i think it has to do with the kernel
[19:13] <ouyes> ramiro,  i see ,truecrypt
[19:13] <bala> mariachi... card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:13] <bala> card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:13] <mAriachi> greenjellow: dont have alot of experience on the subject
[19:13] <FloodBot4> bala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <mAriachi> bala so it's an intel
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> anyone gotton firefox-3.6 from the Mozilla PPA to work in the last 2 days?
[19:13] <bala> yup
[19:13] <mAriachi> bala: have you installed the restricted extras?
[19:13] <ouyes> ramiro,  the_real_dave  il use truecrypt to encrypt sensitive data
[19:13] <greenjellow> o ok
[19:14] <bala> no
[19:14] <ramiro> ouyes: I've never used truecrypt, but if that does what the name says, it should be ok =)
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: do this in a terminal
[19:14] <Rubber_> y a un salon en francais ?
[19:14] <bala> k
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu_restricted_extras
[19:14] <akaedu> how can let xubuntu mount wind disk , start up
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sry
[19:14] <the_real_dave> ouyes: ok. It is easier though to change it to NTFS when the drive is empty then full though ;) As for what's being said about access to your data, yes, all users can access it, but its an external drive so that's pretty much what you want. Truecrypt is a good idea for sensitive stuff, its good :) But either way, WIndows cant read ext lol :D
[19:14] <ouyes> ramiro,  what do you use to protect your data
[19:14] <IdleOne> Rubber_: oui. #ubuntu-fr
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: mistake
[19:14] <Rubber_> Idleone j ai essayé
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:15] <bala> wat mistake??
[19:15] <ramiro> ouyes: I don't protect any of it...
[19:15] <bala> kk
[19:15] <Rubber_> y a 6 clampins
[19:15] <mAriachi> ouyes:
[19:15] <Rubber_> pire que sur bds
[19:15] <sakthivel> anybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend ..
[19:15] <mAriachi> ouyes: do you use the drive on windows and linux comps?
[19:16] <mAriachi> ouyes: if so, i would suggest making it an NTFS type
[19:16] <macman_> guys i have a quewtion .. so im using one of those ide to usb things right .. it has sata everything on it .. when i plug it in ubuntu it dosen't get recognized .. if i reboot and boot into windows it recognizes .. so short story why does my hdd's work in windows and not ubuntu
[19:16] <greenjellow> is there  way to update the kernel automatically
[19:16] <joshua> hello
[19:16] <dane> hey
[19:16] <the_real_dave> !hi | joshua dane
[19:16] <mAriachi> greenjellow: the update manager will inform you if there is a new kernel
[19:16] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yes i divide the hard drive into two partitions one is ntfs one is ext4 hoping ext4 would not be seen under windows and so protect my data
[19:16] <Talon_> Ubuntu 9.10 is not finding all my SATA drives.
[19:17] <greenjellow> ok
[19:17] <sakthivel>  anybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend .
[19:17] <greenjellow> thanks
[19:17] <mAriachi> ouyes: good move, if you dont need the partition ext4 under windows
[19:17] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: A wireless connection? If so, probably Network-Manager's fault
[19:17] <sakthivel> i am using ethernet connection
[19:18] <mAriachi> sakthivel: just unplug and plug your cable and it should be fine
[19:18] <sshc> svn: command not found
[19:18] <sshc> I install the svn package
[19:18] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[19:18] <greenjellow> i fixed the problem mAriacchi :) thanks
[19:18] <IdleOne> !register | Rubber_
[19:18] <ioka> guys would you please tell me how do I cp a directory
[19:19] <sakthivel> i tried unplug  no use,, only restart or powerof only working
[19:19] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I would depend on the fact that ext4 cant be read n WIndow to protect your data. If someone wants to get to it, there are ways around it probably. They could always just hook it up to a linux pc and have full control. Truecrypt though will actually encrypt your data and protect it
[19:19] <Dwight1> I'm new. Does anybody know how to install w_scan-20091230 on 9.10? the one in synaptic is out of date and doesn't work properly.
[19:19] <sshc> what do I need to install in order to use the svn command?
[19:19] <infid> svn
[19:19] <Talon_> I have 3 sata drives plugged into my motherboard, two of which are burners.. one is a hard drive.. windows see's them all.. ubuntu 9.10 just sees the burners, any clue why?
[19:19] <sshc> infid: I did install svn
[19:20] <infid> sshc from apache you need to apt get libapache2-svn too
[19:20] <sshc> infid: ok, thanks!
[19:20] <mAriachi> Talon_: it sees the hard drive aswell, dont worry, if you cant access it, then it is probably not mounted, install pysdm to help you
[19:20] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  there is few people around me(in my life cycle or work place) using linux
[19:21] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about encrypting when you have ext4
[19:21] <Talon_> its not a /dev/sd choice... I can't mount it with mount cause its not there
[19:21] <Talon_> i got /sda and /sdb which are my two ide drives
[19:21] <Talon_> thats it
[19:21] <the_real_dave> ioka: use the recursive option, -R
[19:21] <mAriachi> talon_: sda is the first drive
[19:22] <mAriachi> talon_: sdb is the second
[19:22] <infid> on my host i changed 'PasswordAuthentication' and 'UsePAM' to 'no' in sshd_config to disable password logins from clients, which works, but now i can't ssh FROM my host to other places anymore. any idea why? it says 'permission denied (publickey,password)'
[19:22] <Talon_> i should have a sdc
[19:22] <Talon_> but its not there
[19:22] <VanDyke> can anyone here read chinese? if so, plz /msg me
[19:22] <apanda> i'd like to use ubuntu on an old amd k6-2/400 mhz but i cant find out which versions still support that. the newer one's dont because the new linux kernels dont support that processor any longer. i have tried 8.04 ubuntu and xubuntu live with no success
[19:22] <mAriachi> talon_: you have 3 hard drives?
[19:22] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave , and i installed ubuntu to my TF card and i am runing it. ubuntu is amazing
[19:22] <Talon_> yes
[19:22] <the_real_dave> ouyes: fair enough, just so long as your aware that it won't protect your data from anyone determined enough ;) TF card?
[19:23] <VanDyke> apanda, get an older version, probably 6.-ish
[19:23] <mAriachi> ouyes: good job dude! if you want to use it properly, you need to apply more usable space while creating it
[19:23] <Talon_> two ide drives, which are both recognised, and 3 sata drives, 1 hdd and two dvd burners
[19:23] <apanda> yeah VanDyke i've tried to get 6.x but i couldnt find a desktop iso of that one any longer because its no longer supported ;)
[19:23] <Talon_> everythings found but my sata hdd
[19:23] <mAriachi> talon_: try reconnecting
[19:24] <mAriachi> talon_: and installing pysdm
[19:24] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  yes a 8GB TF card( a usb storge micro sd)
[19:24] <sakthivel> which is best linux ubuntu/suse/debian or etc
[19:24] <Talon_> what is pysdm
[19:24] <philipwn> how to find which process is using my soundcard?
[19:24] <infid> sakthivel: this isn't politics, there is no best
[19:24] <chuckf> sakthivel: you'll get a biased answer here
[19:24] <apanda> lies, the best is etc
[19:24] <VanDyke> apanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.2/
[19:24] <mAriachi> sakthivel: get your info right, ubuntu is based on debian :D
[19:24] <VanDyke> it's the server LTS, but works just as well
[19:24] <Talon_> pysdm installed
[19:25] <apanda> VanDyke, thanks but thats server only 6.x :)
[19:25] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Lol nice one :) Enjoy learning more Ubuntu :D
[19:25] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[19:25] <mAriachi> talon_: now run it in terminal, sudo pysdm
[19:25] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave  i installed everything that i need,and it work as fine as it were installed in the hard driver
[19:25] <VanDyke> apanda, but it works just the same
[19:25] <mAriachi> ouyes: yep, ubuntu rocks :D
[19:25] <Talon_> shows sda, and sdb, no sdc
[19:25] <zaka> zaka
[19:25] <apanda> ah ok VanDyke, but it's no live cd, right?
[19:26] <matan_> hi all
[19:26] <salat> hey...why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:26] <VanDyke> apanda, no
[19:26] <alienjeff> o/ matan_
[19:26] <VanDyke> apanda, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[19:26] <the_real_dave> ouyes: the one thing to be aware of is your swap partition. Seeing as that's a flash drive, with a limited number of read and writes, having your swap on the flash card can lower its life span
[19:26] <apanda> wee :) thanks VanDyke :D
[19:26] <VanDyke> that's a live cd
[19:26] <mAriachi> talon_: is your SATA hard drive connected properly? if so, try disconecting one of the burners and conencting the hard drive to the burners cable
[19:27] <matan_> yes?
[19:27] <Talon_> yes, windows sees the drive just fine
[19:27] <houms> has anyone used FOG on ubuntu before?
[19:27] <matan_> i have problem with gamepad
[19:27] <rafael_> how long does it takes to apply a patch?
[19:28] <mAriachi> rafael_ depends on your conf, and bandwidth
[19:28] <houms> or better question does anyone know php pretty well?
[19:28] <Talon_> i know its there and works fine, windows sees it, i can play my music its my music drive, i boot linux.. its gone
[19:28] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  but also i can not delete the swap partition
[19:28] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont do that
[19:28] <infid> homus what about php
[19:28] <rafael_> mAriachi so, it's normal for it to take like half hour o more?
[19:29] <mAriachi> ouyes: it'll be fine with the swap
[19:29] <salat> someone with network knowledge please query me=C
[19:29] <mAriachi> rafael_ if you have a slow bandwidth, yes
[19:29] <houms> i installed fog and when i go to upload image it goes hrough process but then throughs a cannot move and references a php file
[19:29] <infid> salat im sure everyone in here has network knowledge
[19:29] <sakthivel> i am a new ubuntu user.. i am using both windwos and ubuntu.. i feel ubuntu gnome disply graphics is not so good compare to windows.. if i install kde.. my system is going very slow..
[19:29] <ouyes> the_real_dave, but the system hardly use the swap space a few Mb
[19:29] <houms> i have looked at the file and line reference and see what it is referencing but have no way of know how to fix it
[19:30] <salat> infid..but they dont answer=C
[19:30] <Talon_> ive removed dmraid, rebooted, not there, re-installed dmraid, rebooted, not there... no matter what linux doesnt see it.. it didnt even see it on the livecd
[19:30] <mAriachi> sakthivel: you need to install compiz config to get the most out of gnome
[19:30] <ouyes> mAriachi, yep, it is a little slow than that installed in the hd
[19:30] <mAriachi> sakthivel: KDE is alot more memory hungry
[19:31] <the_real_dave> ouyes: even a few Mb is still accessing the drive. You'll probably be fine, you'll break/lose/wipe Ubuntu off the card before you reach the maximum number of read-writes l)
[19:31] <rafael_> mAriachi is it normal for the terminal to not give any outputs when i put the patch command?
[19:31] <sakthivel> compiz is not working my pc
[19:31] <mAriachi> sakthivel: if you want a simple, fast and not memory hogging, install xfce
[19:31] <salat> why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:31] <mAriachi> rafael_: patch for what?
[19:31] <rafael_> for modem manager
[19:32] <mAriachi> sakthivel: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:32] <sakthivel> ok.. but i like gnome.. can i get any themes to change my desktop graphics
[19:32] <mAriachi> sakthivel: yep, gazillions of them
[19:32] <mAriachi> just google for themes
[19:32] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  how many time does i have before it is damaged?
[19:33] <newguy2010> OK I am a serious noob here...yesterday I was using Linux Mint Helena and adoobe acrobat player worked fine.  Today I am using straight ubuntu 9.10 and cannot get my cd to play in  adobe player any suggestions?
[19:33] <houms> the file references line 133
[19:33] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about damaging, the swap will only be used if theres not enough RAM on your pc, so your fine
[19:33] <sakthivel> i feel my desktop ubuntu doestnot support grphics. how do i install driver for grahics
[19:33] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: you might just need certain drivers. what graphics card have you?
[19:33] <houms> and its http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/361470/
[19:33] <houms> greping for srcdd in that same file produces two lines
[19:33] <sakthivel> my desktop is ibm duron 850
[19:33] <newguy2010> Help with Ubuntu 9.10 and adobe plyer
[19:33] <houms> the one seen on line 133 and this one
[19:33] <houms> $srcdd = $uploaddir . $mac;
[19:34] <ouyes> mAriachi,  i agree with you ,but it seems we are wrong
[19:34] <sakthivel> amd process
[19:34] <rafael_> mAriachi patch for modem manager
[19:34] <the_real_dave> ouyes: millions mate, don't worry about it :) You'll be fine,
[19:34] <mAriachi> sakthivel: you should deffinetly consider xfce desktop
[19:34] <mAriachi> sakthivel: its great for older conf
[19:34] <sakthivel> ok
[19:34] <the_real_dave> ouyes: it was much more lethal with older flash drives
[19:35] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: for a very light Ubuntu based distro, try Crunchbang. Faster and Lighter than Xubuntu
[19:35] <sakthivel> where can i find the driver for IBM amd  duron 850 system
[19:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry, i am still using an MMC from my first phone, i have ubuntu 9.10 on it, never gave me a problem, these things are bulletproof
[19:35] <Talon_> any ideas why windows sees the drive and linux cant
[19:35] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: go to system > administration > restricted drivers.
[19:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: one of the reasons why they come with a 5 or more year guarantee
[19:35] <zagabar> 3~
[19:36] <Rubber_> i m french
[19:36] <sakthivel> ok what abt Crunchbang is it also ubuntu
[19:36] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: that will show if you need drivers or not
[19:36] <mAriachi> sakthivel: or try puppy linux, dely linux or other small distro's
[19:36] <salat> why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:36] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yep but i already lost the guarantee paper
[19:36] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[19:36] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: YUp, Crunchbang is UBuntu, just uses the much lighter and faster Openbox Window Manager
[19:36] <holm_> was
[19:36] <mAriachi> sakthivel: but to do that, you'll need a complete reinstall, try first going to xfce, do this, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:37] <the_real_dave> ouyes: and you'll lose the memory card before you run out of read-write cycles ;)
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> whats the prefered way to turn xubuntu into ubuntu?, clean one?
[19:37] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about damaging, believe me
[19:37] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: what release?
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: 9.10
[19:37] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: just install the gnome desktop
[19:38] <mplabs> Hello guys !
[19:38] <onetinsoldier> hi
[19:38] <mAriachi> !hi mplabs
[19:38] <mplabs> How are you all ?
[19:38] <mAriachi> mplabs !hi
[19:38] <sakthivel> i havent find restricted drivers from admin
[19:38] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: install ubuntu-desktop to get all the gnome programs, and ill get you a script in a sec to completely remove xfce
[19:38] <mplabs> I have some problem with my Ubuntu
[19:38] <usuario> esto k ess??
[19:38] <usuario> esta en ingless adioss
[19:39] <mAriachi> mplabs: just state your issue :D
[19:39] <usuario_> hello
[19:39]  * Talon_ strangles ubuntu
[19:39] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:39] <apanda> is there a way to boot the 8.04 live cd with a 2.4 kernel? is one included there?
[19:39] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: exactly
[19:39] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: well, you'll need to use sudo like
[19:39] <usuario_> how are you
[19:39] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  mAriachi i do not worry i would lost the card, i care for the time, if for 3 year i lost it, i think it deserves
[19:40] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: this is not the preffered way, but it is the fastest :D
[19:40] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I don't quite understand you mate....
[19:40] <mAriachi> ouyes: right you are
[19:40] <mplabs> I was trying to solve some problem with my... nvidia driver ? xorg.conf file ? I don't know, the fact is that now I'm on xfce but I use KDE, I don't know why but I can't enter to KDE
[19:40] <brontosaurusrex> mAriachi: and the prefered way is?
[19:41] <Talon_> could it be the sata controller on my motherboard isn't supported fully in ubuntu? but then why would it see the burners and not the harddrive..
[19:41] <mAriachi> the_real_dave: he's refering to his flash drive, if it's gone in 3 years, that's enough
[19:41] <mplabs> I mean.. it's not in my list
[19:41] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: a complete reinstall from scratch
[19:41] <rafael_> do i need internet connection to apply a patch if i already have the source and the patch?
[19:41] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: Here's the link for the command to completely remove xubuntu leaving just gnome http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[19:41] <mplabs> just default, xface and failsafe session is in the list
[19:41] <mplabs> :S
[19:41] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  i care about how long i can use it under ubuntu , if it is a long time ,why bother its damage? it is worth that
[19:42] <jolaren23> Does anyone know if the Spotify plugin works with xbmc-live yet?
[19:42] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: i would suggest that
[19:42] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: you may want to use sudo apt-get purge to remove all config files, your choice
[19:42] <ouyes> mAriachi,  are you a native speaker of english?
[19:42] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: thanks, but the reinstall is the best possible way?
[19:42] <mAriachi> ouyes: no, why do you ask?
[19:42] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Ah ok mate
[19:42] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: yes, yes it is :D
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> ok, so if i reinstall, should i go with lucid or karmic?
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: apt-get purge will remove it just as clean as a re-install
[19:43] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: karmic
[19:43] <ouyes> mAriachi, nothing, you get a good comperihension
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: so not necessarily better
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> ok :)
[19:43] <mplabs> how is the name of the kde package in the sources list ? I will reinstall it
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: it's easier not to
[19:44] <the_real_dave> mplabs: kubuntu-desktop will install the KDE desktop
[19:44] <mAriachi> ouyes: tnx, i'm from macedonia, i study languages, plan on to make a living out of it
[19:44] <ChibaPet> Hey all! Today's question: If I hit the wireless kill switch on my laptop, it... works. Is there, however, a way to re-enable the radio without rebooting?
[19:44] <simon__> as a translator?
[19:45] <keshav> Empathy or Pidgin?
[19:45] <mAriachi> simon_ are you refering to me?
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> ok, lets see, ill do install ubuntu-desktop and that xubuntu remover, then if it fails, ill reinstall ;)
[19:45] <mAriachi> simon_: type the nickname before anything else
[19:45] <the_real_dave> keshav: I prefer pidgin :)
[19:45] <ChibaPet> I see in syslog: NetworkManager: <info> Wireless now disabled by radio killswitch
[19:45] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: excellent compromise xd :D
[19:45] <ChibaPet> Wondering how to accomplish the reverse of that.
[19:45] <Rubber_> Idleone nous a abandonné
[19:45] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: lol ok :) be aware that the ubuntu-desktop package is quite big :)
[19:45] <simon__> what nicknameẞ
[19:46] <sakthivel> pidgin support voice and vido chat?
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> should be here in 3 minutes, 800 megs
[19:46] <mAriachi> simon_: of who you are referring to
[19:46] <simon__> you
[19:46] <mAriachi> sakthivel: nope, pidgin sucks at that
[19:46] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: and think about using apt-get purge, which will delete all the configs as well :)
[19:46] <mplabs> I think I need to reinstall some packages (or reconfigure) to make again the list of available sessions
[19:46] <mAriachi> simon_: then write my nickname before anything else
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: /etc configs or user configs?
[19:46] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave  i am leaving now for sleep, goodday and thanks for your help .bye
[19:47] <keshav> the_real_dave, I think Pidgin is cool, but Empathy takes the crown - voice chat! Not sure if Pidgin has that
[19:47] <FreddyHayek> is this working?
[19:47] <mAriachi> ouyes:np dude, anytime, anywhere
[19:47] <ChibaPet> Freddy, yes.
[19:47] <mAriachi> ouyes: cya
[19:47] <FreddyHayek> ty
[19:47] <Talon_> do you think i can get my drive visible if I tried another distro? say SuSE for example...
[19:47] <sakthivel> can i use evolution mail for yahoo..
[19:47] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:47] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: program configs, things in /etc as far as I know. Could be worth googling first :)
[19:47] <sakthivel> is it support yahoo
[19:47] <ChibaPet> Anyone know of a channel where folks might know about this wireless kill switch issue? Been ages since I've IRC'd.
[19:47] <simon__> mAriachi: like this?
[19:47] <ubuntu> im runing ubuntu 9.10 and my video card is turning off
[19:47] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Night mate :D
[19:47] <Besogon> Talon_, yes you can
[19:47] <ja> wtf
[19:47] <yrlnry> When I plug my digital camera into the USB port on my Ubuntu laptop, the camera device appears on the desktop and I can open it like a folder.  But there is nothing in the folder.  Why can't I see my pictures?
[19:47] <mAriachi> simon_: yep, exactly
[19:48] <mAriachi> simon_ :D
[19:48] <maco> sakthivel: if you've paid yahoo to let you have pop/imap access, sure. evolution supports standard protocols
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: ok, thanks
[19:48] <carolina> portugues pt br
[19:48] <the_real_dave> keshav: I never use video chat, I've terrible bandwidth. I just prefer pidgin's UI :D
[19:48] <Talon_> its a shame, i kinda like ubuntu tho :/
[19:48] <sakthivel> evolution support gmail?
[19:48] <ubuntu> yes
[19:48] <keshav> the_real_dave yeah, it looks more mature
[19:49] <ChibaPet> I need mailing lists, I guess. I should figure out if I'm sticking with Ubuntu or trying CentOS and then subscribe to something. :P
[19:49] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: I presume so, gmail supprts pop right?
[19:49] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:49] <ChibaPet> Later all.
[19:49] <Talon_> how can i check to see if ubuntu even recognizes all four possible sata ports?
[19:49] <keshav> sakthivel Yes, gmail supports both pop3 and imap
[19:49] <FreddyHayek> any way to make teh font larger? I don't mean I just want to shout at y'all. I want to read what you say without my nose on the monitor.
[19:50] <mAriachi> ALL: good night y'all, cya tomorrow
[19:50] <Rubber_> j en ai assez
[19:50] <the_real_dave> mAriachi: Night mate :D
[19:50] <Besogon> Talon_, sudo fdisk -l Should show you all drives and partitions
[19:50] <Rubber_> ve rebrancher mon dd win
[19:50] <simon__> good night
[19:50] <nenes> alguien que entienda español?
[19:51] <Ferris-> heh. FreddyHayek. There is a way, ive seen it >_>
[19:51] <Rubber_> Idleone il est ou ?
[19:51] <marcuy> yo entiendo
[19:51] <the_real_dave> Talon_: it doesn't make sense that it would recognise the dvd drives and not the hdd if they're both connected to the same controller. could be worth taking a look in your BIOS
[19:51] <marcuy> que pasó nenes ?
[19:52] <Rubber_> marcury eqsta solo
[19:52] <FreddyHayek> Ferris, thanks. If you can recall some hint?
[19:52] <Rubber_> esta
[19:52] <Rubber_> oups
[19:52] <marcuy> ops
[19:52] <Rubber_> da
[19:52] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:52] <Rubber_> bersek j ai vomi
[19:52] <marcuy> que decis Rubber_ ?
[19:53] <Talon_> the_real_dave: my thoughts exactly.. but windows sees it fine. I looked in bios and bios sees them fine and all of the hdd's have the same preferences in the bios
[19:53] <Rubber_> marcury jy sois frog man
[19:53] <the_real_dave> Talon_: I presume fdisk -l shows nothing?
[19:53] <Talon_> just two drives
[19:53] <Talon_> the two on the IDE controller
[19:54] <Rubber_> qui pour m apprendre l anglais ?
[19:54] <the_real_dave> Talon_: You have IDE disk drives and sata hdds? Are they all connected to the mobo?
[19:55] <Talon_> yes, two ide drives on the ide controller, three sata drives on the sata controller, two of which are dvd burners that linux recognizes
[19:55] <chilifinger> how can you get a windows class name?
[19:55] <Rubber_> Ce mieux Windows
[19:55] <the_real_dave> Talon_: hmmm, that makes no sense. I'm of no help mate, sorry :(
[19:55] <sakthivel> i tried evlotion mail fro gmail.. folllowingerror accured during send recieve.. Error while Sending message.
[19:55] <sakthivel> MAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at
[19:55] <sakthivel> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.43
[19:56] <jrib> chilifinger: xprop
[19:56] <Talon_> its gotta be a bug, because its completely there and acessable if i boot winxp
[19:56] <chilifinger> jrib: thanks
[19:56] <sakthivel> MAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at
[19:56] <sakthivel> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.43
[19:57] <mazda01_> trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.
[19:57] <sakthivel> how to connect evolution mail for gmail account.. i tried error message
[19:58] <Talon_> ok the hdd connected to the SATA controller is actually an IDE drive with a IDE 2 SATA controller conntected to it, could that be the issue?
[19:58] <Talon_> and if so, why does windows handle it and linux doesnt
[19:59] <Talon_> could linux be assuming its sata2 when in actuallity i think those converter boxes for ide drives are sata1?
[19:59] <zob_> Hi. Does anyone know if MONO can somehow control USB midi??? MONO as in f-spot and rhythmbox that is!
[20:00] <infid> Slart: you there?
[20:00] <Slart> infid: sure
[20:00] <Slart> infid: what's up?
[20:00] <apipkin1> i'm having a problem with 9.10. I clicked to remove the speaker from the top panel. now the panels keep reloading. i can't alt+f2 at all and rebooting is almost impossible
[20:00] <infid> slart cool, did you use gnome-terminal last night when you did the ssh -X stuff?
[20:00] <Slart> infid: yes, why?
[20:01] <thevishy> what is the best way to add a old linux parition to my ubuntu filesystem
[20:01] <FreddyHayek> Oh well. I'll just have put up with the tiny font. I'm growing very frustrated with the idiot-proofing in the flavors of linuks (I'm missing 3 characters - so my spelling is creative :)) . There are no idiots that will log into my system. (You there, snickering, STFU). Is there some way to set up a partition so that whoever or whatever writes to it any user booting in any OS, can read, write and eksecute it? I have one drive set up with two installations of U
[20:01] <Slart> thevishy: if you just want to access the data just put it in the fstab
[20:01] <apipkin1> i think compiz is in an infinite loop :/
[20:01] <infid> slart im still trying to get it working. ive been using gnome terminal. sometimes some gui apps like gvim or gnome-chess will run but their gui's wont run, instead they run inside the terminal as console versions
[20:01] <Slart> infid: do you have the DISPLY enviroment variable set?
[20:01] <infid> slart: and i even tried disabling passwordless logins and keys and went back to default sshd_config but i still get the same errors
[20:02] <jrib> FreddyHayek: font size?  System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts.  As for permissions, see ubottu
[20:02] <Slart> infid: sorry.. DISPLAY
[20:02] <jrib> !permissions > FreddyHayek
[20:02] <infid> Slart: yeah i've always had DISPLAY set
[20:02] <infid> Slart it's set to localhost:10.0
[20:02] <Slart> infid: hmm.. mine is just set to :0.0  no localhost
[20:02] <infid> slart ok i just got some progress
[20:03] <infid> slart i tried ssh -X'ing FROm the host to the client this time and it works when i run gui apps!
[20:03] <Slart> infid: try adding that before your command....   DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -X bla bla bla
[20:03] <thevishy> not just the data i want to merge it as I have less diskspace
[20:03] <infid> slart: my client is a laptop, maybe thats why?
[20:03] <thevishy> i want to resize the filesystem and include the other linux parition
[20:03] <Slart> infid: shouldn't be a difference between laptops and regular desktops when it comes to this stuff
[20:03] <Talon_> I'm going to try something, since i upgraded my pc to a motherboard with enough sata ports on it, i didn't need my old PCI sata raid controller, but the drive was found on that old pci card on my old machine in Ubuntu 9.10. I'm going to put that card back in and see if linux finds the drive on that controller.. be back with an update in 10 mins or so
[20:03] <infid> slart well even on the working computer it says localhost:10.0, and all tutorials say that's what the offset should be
[20:04] <Slart> thevishy: oh.. do you want the data? or it's empty?
[20:04] <Slart> infid: why 10.0 ? you're running more than one X server?
[20:04] <thevishy> I dont want the data , it is a broken linux mint installation
[20:05] <Slart> thevishy: boot from a live cd.. use gparted.. remove the mint partition.. resize some other partition that's next to it... that should work alright.. but always make backups.. things can get nasty if you get a power failure or something like that
[20:05] <infid> slart no. idk why it's that. it just is by default. if you look in sshd_config it shows X11DisplayOffset 10
[20:05] <DoGuKaN> hi
[20:05] <DoGuKaN> Do you have moblock using??
[20:05] <thevishy> right I will try that , its a laptop so no power issue I hope but yes i will keep that in mind thanks
[20:06] <FreddyHayek> jrib, I guess that "!" nomenclature elicited the ot message. Thanks. I'll ollk at it but I've goggled permissions already and spent a lot of time reading the results. I can screw with individual files easily. What I want is to change the way the permissions default so to speak. I want any files written to a particular partition to AUTOMATICALLY have permissions for anyone to do anything with. Not to have to change them one at a time.
[20:06] <shane2peru> ok, when I start up evolution, it just goes to a dark window, and refuses to respond to anything!  Any ideas???
[20:06] <jrib> FreddyHayek: do you have more than one user on your system?
[20:06] <Slart> infid: ha.. you're absolutely right.. it says localhost:10.0 on my system too.. I just looked at a regular gnome-terminal.. not through ssh
[20:06] <Gaming4JC> hey all, how would I go about submitting a bug for a game called PenguPop? They don't have their own bug tracker and it's in the repos soo...
[20:07] <lianimator> is there a way to take a photo from a webcam from the terminal?
[20:07] <infid> slart the only thing about this laptop (the machine that it wont work FROM, but works TO) is that it's ubuntu 9.10 as an upgrade from jaunty. so maybe something got mangled somewhere
[20:07] <ViridianFire> Can anyone help me get my headphone jack to work?
[20:07] <Losha> infid: the 10 is basically arbitrary. It's just chosen so it won't clash with any other local screens you might have....
[20:07] <Slart> infid: it's possible.. upgrades can be a bit tricky
[20:07] <infid> slart but the ssh config files are identical
[20:08] <Slart> infid: perhaps it's not ssh that's being naughty.. perhaps it's X
[20:08] <FreddyHayek> jrib Technically, yes. I have different user names on the two seperate installations. They are both me but the machine doesn't know that.
[20:08] <infid> slart yeah probably
[20:08] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Have you been to Sound Preferences >> Input/Output? That has information on your headphones and the connector can be selected from there as well
[20:08] <jrib> FreddyHayek: what filesystem is the partition in question?
[20:09] <ViridianFire> yeah i have been there
[20:09] <Gaming4JC> I'm not sure if this bug really needs to be in launchpad since they don't have a category for it there... hmm
[20:09] <infid> losha ok i'll make a note of that thanks
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> !sound
[20:10] <ViridianFire> ok thanks
[20:10] <ViridianFire> Ill try those things
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> np. :)
[20:11] <FreddyHayek> jrib, FAT (presumaly 32, Ubuntu just calls it FAT, Which, to me means FAT12, but I can't believe that). I also have one et3 data partition that seems to work the same way. I gave up on et4.
[20:11] <jrib> FreddyHayek: what partition are you talking about now?  FAT doesn't store permissions so those get decided at mount time
[20:11] <ViridianFire> wait what volume control?
[20:12] <ViridianFire> I double clicked the one on the task bar and nothing happened
[20:13] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: System>>Preferences>>Sound
[20:13] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light doesn't come on. I have a dell keyboard. Please Help
[20:13] <ViridianFire> I dont have an alsa mixer option
[20:14] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[20:14] <titan_ark> sound problems?
[20:14] <titan_ark> same here :(
[20:14] <OerHeks> ViridianFire terminal > alsamixer
[20:14] <titan_ark> cant get my mic to work
[20:15] <dorito> is there any msn clone for linux that supports webcam feature?
[20:15] <ubuntu> wich channel is ubuntu jam going to be on
[20:15] <dorito> as well as microphone
[20:15] <FreddyHayek> jrib, I'm talking about the FAT. I picked it specifically for that freason bcause I couldn't get es4 partitions to even consistently give access to the partiton let alone the files on it. If I can't get the perms to default the way I want 'em, maybe I could run some sort of script that would reset all perms on all files in a given partition, all the way down thru the subdirectories, sort of like a GLObAL command in a 4DOS batch file?
[20:15] <shane2peru> can someone recommend a decent replacment for Rhythmbox?   What would you use for an all around music player? I don't need nothing fancy.
[20:16] <jrib> FreddyHayek: like I said, FAT doesn't store permissions.  Just mount it with the right options
[20:16] <ioka> guys how can I see all the running processes ?
[20:16] <ioka> ps -a?
[20:16] <jrib> !fat > FreddyHayek
[20:16] <ioka> it does not show one of them
[20:16] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: mplayer, mpoc, quite a few basic ones. Media Player Classic is also a fav. :)
[20:16] <ioka> what should I do?
[20:16] <guntbert> ioka: ps aux
[20:16] <guntbert> ioka: without -
[20:16] <ioka> ok guntbert I'll try
[20:16] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, I would like a decent GUI interface
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: hmm, WinAmp under wine? lol jk
[20:17] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, lol, ugg, no, Gnome type stuff. :)
[20:17] <Talon_> update report: I installed that PCI Raid controller, and now I have my drive 3
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> I also am looking for another player though, Rhythmbox seems to stop playing CDs now after about the 5th song. :/
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> heh
[20:18] <VCoolio> shane2peru: banshee, audacious, various mpd clients like quodlibet, ario, sonata; there's tons of options in this department
[20:18] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, yeah, Rhythmbox is ok, but I think there is probably something better out there.
[20:18] <Talon_> but now i got to get the drivers for that pci raid controller in windows so windows can access that drive again... jeesh... what a mess
[20:18] <shane2peru> VCoolio, I want something that would drop in as a replacment for the default, perhaps I will give banshee a try
[20:19] <mazda01_> trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.
[20:19] <MasterMatan> hi all
[20:19] <shane2peru> VCoolio, I always liked Amarok in the old days, thought it had a nice interface, Rhythmbox just is lacking some stuff.
[20:19] <jrib> mazda01_: why would they be overwritten?
[20:20] <meeee> hi again; trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, i get an 'Could Not Calculate the Update' error
[20:20] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty
[20:20] <joh6nn> i've tried disabling ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference
[20:20] <meeee> its a fresh install of 8.04, trying to upgrade to 8.10....
[20:21] <ioka> guntbert: 10x a lot man :)
[20:21] <jrib> meeee: how are you upgrading?
[20:21] <meeee> update-manager
[20:21] <guntbert> ioka: you're welcome :-)
[20:21] <VCoolio> shane2peru: banshee has a lot to offer too; quodlibet has a lot of plugins to get features; just try out stuff
[20:22] <jrib> me___: did you update 8.04 first?  Have you ever enabled any third-party repositories?  Have you installed anything outside the official repositories?
[20:22] <shane2peru> VCoolio, is Juk more of a kde one?
[20:22] <ViridianFire> I have the alsamixer open in the terminal
[20:22] <mazda01_> jrib, not sure. i am using a usb live persistent install created by pendrivelinux windows executable. it created a 4gb casper-rw file and there must be some script run at bootup that overwrites certain files. or maybe my main filesystem files can't be saved to because i have a ro filesystem. not sure. here is the output of mount:  http://pastebin.com/f1cb986ee
[20:22] <me___> i have a fresh 8.04.no outside repos, no packages at all installed other than the base ones
[20:22] <jolaren> How do I run an Java application in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <jrib> mazda01_: is anything peristent?
[20:22] <VCoolio> shane2peru: yes
[20:22] <ViridianFire> and there is no volume bar for the headphone jack
[20:22] <joh6nn> jolaren: do you have java installed?
[20:23] <jrib> !persistent > mazda01_
[20:23] <shane2peru> VCoolio, ahh, I want to stay clear of the extra kde stuff, ok, Banshee, and I will look  at that other one too.
[20:23] <jrib> mazda01_: maybe that helps
[20:23] <mazda01_> jrib, it appears that files I write to my home dir are still there.
[20:23] <Gaming4JC> ahhh finally found a pengupop tracker... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pengupop/+filebug
[20:23] <aliciapg> does anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?
[20:23] <jolaren> joh6nn; I believe so, yes.. I installeds ome dependencies from the packet manager
[20:23] <mazda01_> jrib, changes like installing programs (cairo-dock, xchat, etc etc) are still here after reboit
[20:23] <jolaren> joh6nn; the "sunjava-6-bin" package
[20:24] <joh6nn> jolaren: ok.  and what program are you trying to run?
[20:24] <jason_> whats a good vnc server application for ubuntu? I need it for being a server so I can log into it from work - not a viewer. (already have the viewer)
[20:24] <jolaren> joh6nn; Jotify
[20:24] <jrib> mazda01_: I see.  Don't know then, see if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent has a better install method that works
[20:24] <roler> i am running ubuntu with an ATI 4650 on my TV. It has underscan and I want to turn it off to get rid of the border. I am trying to find the right option for xorg.conf, anyone have that?
[20:24] <jolaren> joh6nn; joel@joel-laptop:~$ java -version
[20:24] <jolaren> java version "1.6.0_15"
[20:24] <jolaren> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
[20:24] <jolaren> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[20:24] <FloodBot4> jolaren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <ViridianFire> so my headphone jack doesnt have a volume bar in the alsamixer and isnt outputing sound
[20:25] <theduke> hey guys, I'm struggling a little with cronjobs... they just refuse to run
[20:26] <jrib> !cron | theduke
[20:26] <joh6nn> jolaren: and what happens when you try to run it?
[20:26] <theduke> just a simple test: * * * * * ls /home/username >> /home/username/ls.log
[20:26] <_MaX_> hi
[20:26]  * _MaX_ is german *g*
[20:26] <theduke> and nothing shows up in the file
[20:27] <jrib> theduke: did you remember the final newline?
[20:28] <aliciapg> does anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?
[20:28] <PsiCoLeO> hi guys
[20:28] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty
[20:28] <jolaren> joh6nn; When trying to open from X.. gedit opens it but when opening from terminal I just get errors
[20:28] <_MaX_> Spricht hier jemand deutsch? Hab kb auf englisch zu reden -.-
[20:28] <PsiCoLeO> im trying to upgrade/update my kernel to 2.6.33
[20:29] <joh6nn> _MaX_: ich glaube es gibt deutsch sprachige channels
[20:29] <FreddyHayek> jrib, the FAT article you referred me to SEEMS to imply that if I reformat NTFS that may accomplish what I want, i.e, , a partition that lets anyone who can mount it, regardless of what installation of Ubuntu they boot form or what account they are in, or for that matter, what OS they are using to read, write, or eksecute anything on that partition without having to reset file perms of individual files. Afore I go off and reformat, do you believe my inference
[20:29] <_MaX_> Ne dreht sich ja um Ubuntu:P
[20:29] <joh6nn> jolaren: : pastebin the errors?
[20:29] <jrib> FreddyHayek: while that's true of ntfs, it is also true of fat
[20:30] <_MaX_> Um die Installation um genau zu sein oO
[20:30] <jrib> !de | _MaX_
[20:30] <cisco> hello everyone i'm new 2 this and i'm having a problem and wondering if someone can help
[20:30] <theduke> jrib: that was it, thanks
[20:30] <jrib> theduke: I hate that too :)
[20:30] <PsiCoLeO> but when I update using to 2.6.33 using ppa
[20:30] <jrib> cisco: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:30] <cisco> how you do that
[20:30] <_MaX_> Das mit dem /join brauchste mir nich zu sagen, ich kenn IRC :P
[20:31] <jrib> cisco: just state your problem to the channel, if someone can help, they will
[20:31] <PsiCoLeO> i cant use the wirless nor the nvidia drivers
[20:31] <Gaming4JC> !help | cisco
[20:31] <joh6nn> _MaX_: ja, ich meinte ich glaube es gibt sogar deutsch sprachige Ubuntu channels :)
[20:31] <mazda01_> so no one has used the pendrivelinux windows executable to create a live usb session and try to make changes to fstab, etc?
[20:31] <Talon_> sorry i had to restart my virtual machine, but any clue why my hard drive works on a PCI Raid controller and not the motherboards SATA ports? (worked in win, but not linux) but using this pci raid controller, i can now have my sata drive in both linux and windows..
[20:31] <_MaX_> joh6nn: :P
[20:32] <FreddyHayek> jrib, that's what I thought before. That  is why I used FAT. but it doesn't seem to be working that way. Seems, at the very least,  to be stopping anyone but the creator from modifying any file unless I reset the perms.
[20:32] <_MaX_> - Please register with servicthis channel (#ubuntu-de)
[20:32] <_MaX_> -.-
[20:32] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[20:32] <cisco> ok well i just got 9.10 i have sound but when i try hooking up my headphones i have sound coming out of my comp speakers and my headphones at the same time anybody knows how to fix it
[20:33] <jrib> FreddyHayek: fat does not have permissions.  They get set when you mount them.
[20:33] <jrib> FreddyHayek: just follow ubottu's link on what options you need to pass when you mount
[20:33] <OerHeks> Talon_  i preffer  pci raid over the onboard raid controller, these are software-raid - uses the cpu
[20:35] <ViridianFire> Gaming4JC: The only hardware options I have under sound preferences are: Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo input, Digital Stereo Duplex, Digital Stereo Output + Analog Stereo Input, and Analog Stereo Output
[20:35] <Talon_> im just lucky i had this card, i almost blew away linux it annoyed me that bad
[20:35] <r3za> hi , i download the thunderbird 3 from mozilla ( tar.bz2 ) now how can i install it in ubuntu ?
[20:35] <nh2> what can I do that apt-get install firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa does not upgrade the firefox meta package and the firefox 3.5 packages?
[20:35] <blakkheim> r3za: compile probably
[20:35] <r3za> blakkheim: can u explain it more ?
[20:35] <Gnea> r3za: why would you download the tar.bz2?
[20:35] <blakkheim> !compile > r3za
[20:35] <jrib> r3za: thunderbird is in the repositories.  It's better to use the repositories in general
[20:36] <titan_ark> hey does anyone know how to configure the microphone and alsa?
[20:36] <FreddyHayek> jrib, thanks. What I hear you saying is that I had half the solution by formatting FAT (or I could have used NTFS) but that now I need to study mounting. If you say that is a fair summary, I'll go study mounting options and quit bthering y'all for a while. Do I take you r meaning correctly?
[20:36] <ubuntu> hello everyone.  Is there a good hard drive data recovery program for Ubuntu?
[20:36] <titan_ark> i cant seem to get any sound/ noise
[20:36] <_dreamy> can anyone please tell me why there is no 3d driver for my sis 672 fx ?
[20:36] <jrib> FreddyHayek: right.  If you are using fstab, ubottu's link should tell you exactly what options you need.  (umask)
[20:36] <_dreamy> anyone helping on this ?
[20:36] <r3za> jrib: i want the 3 version , respositories have 2.0.23 ..
[20:37] <greenjellow> i'm having trouble connecting to the repositories  :( bummer
[20:37] <FreddyHayek> jrib, TYVM. later.
[20:37] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Hmm I'll send a pic of my setup, just a moment...
[20:37] <ViridianFire> ok
[20:37] <jrib> r3za: ok, but it's recommended you wait for version 3 to enter the repositories instead of installing it on your own
[20:37] <lucas_> una preg, como se instala un nuevo usplash?
[20:37] <Gnea> !info testdisk
[20:37] <greenjellow> google it lucas
[20:37] <greenjellow> it's prob easy
[20:37] <aliciapg> does anyoneknow anything about musescore?
[20:38] <lucas_> ok
[20:38] <cisco> viri thats the same options i saw but none of that gets rid of the problem any other suggestions
[20:38] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Here's how I select headphones for when I'm using them over my speakers: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1021/soundprefs.jpg
[20:38] <xiambax> Can someone please assist me in mounting an AFP Volume in linux?
[20:38] <name> hey
[20:38] <name> anyone can tell me how good orca works?
[20:38] <Gaming4JC> !welcome | name
[20:39] <ViridianFire> yeah that doesnt seem to work for me
[20:39] <crlsgms> hello fellas, can anyone suggest a nice screenshot app that i can get through synaptic?
[20:39] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Hmm that's strange, and I'm not particularly good at troubleshooting advanced sound issues. You might want to open up a topic on the forum
[20:39] <ViridianFire> ok
[20:40] <nh2> r3za: http://www.kabatology.com/12/09/a-single-command-to-install-thunderbird-3-in-ubuntu/
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: what's wrong with the default one?  Press your print-screen button
[20:40] <cisco> oh ok i will try and open up a topic
[20:40] <Pindaman> Anyone here that can help me out with a non-working repository on Ubuntu Server CLI?
[20:40] <jrib> Pindaman: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:40] <ViridianFire> well I dont have a volume bar for it on alsamixer could that have anything to do with it?
[20:40] <datacrusher> jrib, i got no default one on my start apps
[20:40] <datacrusher> can you tell me the name of the default one?
[20:40] <greenjellow> pidaman i think i have the same proble
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: press your print-screen button
[20:40] <datacrusher> iv pressed
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: on your keyboard
[20:40] <datacrusher> and now?
[20:41] <jrib> datacrusher: that's it :/  are you using gnome in ubuntu?
[20:41] <Pindaman> My Ubuntu Server has internet, can ping "www.google.nl" but the repository cannot update or install anything. Hangs on connecting. I can ping the repository address where its trying to connect to.
[20:41] <datacrusher> yes
[20:41] <datacrusher> well, i got an error now
[20:41] <datacrusher> gnome-screenshot
[20:41] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: My AlsaMixer also shows no headphones, but it's working so I'm not sure that's the issue. :/
[20:41] <jrib> datacrusher: right
[20:41] <datacrusher> ill search for it on synaptic
[20:41] <ViridianFire> ok thanks
[20:41] <greenjellow> @Pidaman I have the same problem
[20:41] <cisco> i've tried to delete alsa but that didn't work either
[20:41] <Pindaman> Alsa is for sound?
[20:42] <r3za> nh2: thanks alot man ..
[20:42] <Pindaman> Oh sorry i read the wrong line
[20:42] <cisco> oh ok
[20:42] <greenjellow> @Pindaman did you upgrade?
[20:42] <lauren-zoe> hello
[20:42] <Pindaman> Upgrade to what greenjellow ?
[20:42] <nh2> r3za: no problem. There is also a mozilla daily PPA, but it tends to upgrade other stuff you don't want to have.
[20:42] <jrib> greenjellow: pastebin your error
[20:42] <nh2> how to prevent apt from upgrading firefox(-3.5) package while installing FF 3.6 (mozilla-ppa)?
[20:42] <cisco> to 9.10
[20:42] <lauren-zoe> hey sexy
[20:42] <datacrusher> jrib, dont have it on synaptics list
[20:43] <datacrusher> any alternative?
[20:43] <Pindaman> I installed Ubuntu Server 32bit. Tried reinstalling but same problem
[20:43] <greenjellow> i don't now from an older version of ubuntu
[20:43] <Gaming4JC> ok, guess I had better be going. cya alls
[20:43] <greenjellow> i see
[20:43] <Gaming4JC> !bye | Gaming4JC
[20:43] <Pindaman> I did not upgrade greenjellow
[20:43] <ArchMage> i was hoping someone could help me. Whenever I run blender it segfaults immediately. I was able to run it just fine when i first installed it. also I'm getting a lot of glxinfo errors in my dmesg log
[20:43] <greenjellow> i did and this problem came up
[20:43] <jrib> Pindaman: pastebin the command you are running and the full output
[20:43] <greenjellow> there's nothing about it in google
[20:43] <jrib> greenjellow: what version are you on now?
[20:43] <Pindaman> I will paste it, sec
[20:43] <greenjellow> i dont even know
[20:43] <greenjellow> 8.04
[20:43] <greenjellow> i think
[20:43] <jrib> !version | greenjellow
[20:44] <greenjellow> ok
[20:44] <jrib> datacrusher: gnome-screenshot is in the "gnome-utils" package
[20:44] <djbasic> hey can anyone tell me why my web brrowser shuts down
[20:44] <djbasic> ???
[20:44] <ArchMage> here is a pastebin of my dmesg log containing the glxinfo errors AND the blender error
[20:44] <ArchMage> http://pastebin.com/m7a44df29
[20:44] <datacrusher> hm.. thanks
[20:44] <greenjellow> ok
[20:44] <jrib> djbasic: if you want us to guess, my guess is flash...
[20:44] <cisco> pindaman how can i get sound out of my headphones alone
[20:44] <BinaryMan> if i have a flac image + cue and want to convert individual tracks to mp3, store them in a specific directory, and replaygain them, is there a (set of) command line program(s) that can be used to do this?
[20:44] <Pindaman> Should be automatic cisco. Had no problems with that
[20:44] <djbasic> i dnot flash people sorry
[20:44] <djbasic>  you mean flash player?
[20:44] <datacrusher> ahhh now were talking
[20:44] <datacrusher> thanks jrib
[20:45] <Pindaman> Try reconnection the headphones cisco
[20:45] <djbasic> how can i fix it
[20:45] <jrib> datacrusher: this should be in the default install, are you sure your install finished successfully?
[20:45] <cisco> i did i went to 9.10 and i get sound out of both my headphones and comp speakers at the same time
[20:45] <greenjellow> yeah im hardy 8.04
[20:45] <cisco> did i miss intalling something
[20:45] <djbasic> ?
[20:45]  * ArchMage sighs
[20:45] <Pindaman> have you tried the alsa settings from CLI cisco ?
[20:45] <djbasic> how do i fix tis web from shuting down
[20:46] <djbasic> its pissing me off
[20:46] <greenjellow> thanks ubottu
[20:46] <cisco> no how do i get there
[20:46] <jrib> djbasic: what version of ubuntu?
[20:46] <djbasic> shit all
[20:46] <djbasic> na just 2010
[20:46] <Pindaman> Open a terminal and then type "alsa" youll get a screen with some settings, cisco
[20:46] <jrib> djbasic: you aren't making any senes.
[20:46] <jrib> sense even
[20:46] <mneptok> !language | djbasic
[20:46] <djbasic> i got 9.10
[20:46] <djbasic> 9.10
[20:47] <ArchMage> anyone else have this problem w/ glxinfo/blender?
[20:47] <Pindaman> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m5df4a9a3 .
[20:47] <nh2> ArchMage: if it worked on the first start, perhaps something in your configuration went wrong. try to remove/rename the .blender folder and see what happens on the next start
[20:47] <Pindaman> jrib, i am able to ping the adresses by their alfabetic name.
[20:47] <cisco> not getting anything
[20:47] <djbasic> i started the load first my screen did some wiered things
[20:47] <jrib> Pindaman: does a mirror work ok?
[20:47] <ArchMage> nh2, that was my thought too, but i tried that already. :(
[20:47] <Pindaman> Maybe alsa is not installed cisco?
[20:47] <cisco> i'm supposed to type sudo alsa right??
[20:47] <ArchMage> nh2, also tried completely removing it in synaptic then reinstalling blender
[20:48] <Pindaman> jrib, what do you mean? These are multiple sources
[20:48] <djbasic> is there any way i can load XP
[20:48] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[20:48] <jrib> Pindaman: I mean try a mirror other than nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <Pindaman> Just alsa should work too cisco. Try looking if the package is installed via package manager
[20:48] <ArchMage> also the glxinfo errors concern me greatly
[20:48] <ArchMage> could this mean my gfxcard memory is going bad?
[20:49] <Pindaman> Ill try to replace the whole file with an alternative, english one jrib ?
[20:49] <greenjellow> i don't think its the source jrib it's something else
[20:49] <m4j> is there a way to find a user group of ubuntu
[20:49] <jolaren> How do I see my lan adress in ubuntu?
[20:49] <jrib> greenjellow: this would let us know for sure :)
[20:49] <Pindaman> ifconfig
[20:49] <greenjellow> ok lol
[20:49] <jrib> m4j: what do you mean by "user group"?
[20:50] <thruxton> jolaren: /sbin/ifconfig
[20:50] <nh2> ArchMage: which Ubuntu version /kernel?
[20:50] <datacrusher> jrib, well, i got this ubuntu pre configured for an specific software, much stuff was removed
[20:50] <ArchMage> sec
[20:50] <datacrusher> im putting it now
[20:50] <jrib> datacrusher: I see
[20:50] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to play midi's in musescore?
[20:50] <ArchMage> Linux Tiamat 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:50] <ArchMage> karmic
[20:50] <m4j> Ubuntu user group
[20:50] <ArchMage> but that hasn't changed since it was working
[20:51] <p3rror> hello
[20:51] <otto_> hi, running karmic, curious, where did /etc/acpi/ac.d/90-hdparm.sh go (jaunty)?
[20:51] <jrib> m4j: you mean like a local group of users that meet in real life?
[20:51] <m4j> yes
[20:52] <jrib> !loco | m4j
[20:52] <ArchMage> i don't understand how something could work on first run then after a reboot suddenly not be working
[20:52] <m4j> what?
[20:52] <ArchMage> no changes to the system
[20:53] <ArchMage> could the glxinfo and the blender issue be related/
[20:53] <yahya> helo
[20:54] <nh2> ArchMage: perhaps. do you have an ATI card?
[20:54] <ArchMage> i do, but if that were the issue wouldn't it have not run the first time?
[20:54] <jrib> m4j: read the link ubottu gave you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[20:55] <foul_owl> gnome can't seem to remember that i want to show all my folders as lists
[20:55] <nh2> not sure
[20:55] <foul_owl> it just started doing that
[20:56] <nh2> ArchMage: not sure, but its definately graphics related with glxinfo. Are you running the opensource drivers?
[20:56] <Pindaman> jrib, the same problem with the US mirror. Maybe a firewall problem? Havent checked on that at all :)
[20:56] <jrib> Pindaman: yeah, maybe
[20:56] <Pindaman> I mean Ubuntu firewall
[20:56] <fher> hola  alguien que hable español?
[20:56] <LiquidLion> anyone know of a way to install debian to a separate partition while booted into ubuntu? im having trouble with every usb and cd media known to man and cant get debian installed
[20:56] <greenjellow> ubuntu has a firewall
[20:56] <greenjellow> cool
[20:56] <mneptok> !es | fher
[20:56] <ArchMage> i'm running whatever ubuntu installed
[20:56] <jrib> Pindaman: ubuntu has a firewall but there are no rules by default
[20:57] <greenjellow> pindaman i think somethins messed in a file somewhere *cries*
[20:57] <Pindaman> Ah. Then im stuck again
[20:57] <nh2> LiquidLion: you could search for "debootstrap"
[20:57] <jrib> Pindaman: can you visit http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in a browser ok?
[20:57] <fher> ok thanks
[20:57] <greenjellow> Pindaman: I checked everywhere online nothing
[20:57] <Pindaman> Sec
[20:57] <nh2> ArchMage: ok, could you check system->system settings point-> hardware (propiretary) drivers?
[20:57] <LiquidLion> nh2: did that. almost had an complete sys that i booted into. desktop environ and all.... cept there were TONS of mistakes in the install somehow
[20:57] <jrib> greenjellow: have you pastebinned your error yet?
[20:58] <Pindaman> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m3af00ba1
[20:58] <fher> i need the link
[20:58] <greenjellow> no
[20:58] <fher> please
[20:58] <greenjellow> but is the same exact thing as pandaman
[20:58] <ArchMage> the only thing in "hardware drivers" is a software modem
[20:58] <greenjellow> pindaman
[20:58] <jrib> Pindaman: oh right, you're on a server.  But pinging is not the same I guess
[20:58] <nh2> LiquidLion: hmm ok, this is a problem. you could install debian in a virtual machine and if that runs copy the whole thing to your real system
[20:58] <jrib> greenjellow: you aren't using the same ubuntu version
[20:59] <Pindaman> It is with the alfebetic name. Meaning DNS is working
[20:59] <greenjellow> true
[20:59] <Pindaman> Im using Ubuntu Server 32b
[20:59] <LiquidLion> nh2: got a linky for a howto? never did that before
[20:59] <Pindaman> From VMware
[20:59] <greenjellow> let me instal irc in ubuntu
[20:59] <bala> sound is not coming... guys help me...
[20:59] <azerty3> again
[20:59] <azerty3> i
[20:59] <jrib> Pindaman: how about: wget -q -O - http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/      does that work?
[20:59] <LiquidLion> cuz i already have a virtual debian machine :( its why i want debian now. lol
[21:00] <azerty3> i try to find package can't find it for ubuntu 9.10
[21:00] <Pindaman> The - before the link with space?
[21:00] <cemc> I'm using thunderbird3 (downloaded from mozilla site). could anybody tell me how to set chrome as the default browser?
[21:00] <jrib> Pindaman: yeah
[21:00] <cisco> which alsa box do i need to check sorry i'm a noob
[21:00] <Pelo> azerty3, what's the package ?
[21:00] <thruxton> cemc: ints in chromes options
[21:00] <pilif12p> Hey. I can't install KompoZer from the software center...
[21:00] <propellerdnk> русские есть?
[21:00] <pilif12p> i get an error
[21:00] <greenjellow_> jrib:how can i see the error?
[21:00] <Pelo> !ru | propellerdnk
[21:00] <greenjellow_> jrib:so i can copy paste
[21:00] <azerty3> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[21:00] <azerty3> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[21:00] <azerty3> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse
[21:00] <azerty3> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[21:00] <FloodBot4> azerty3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <azerty3> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multivers
[21:00] <jrib> greenjellow_: why are you here if you don't see an error :P
[21:01] <Pindaman> jrib, 0 (nul) isnt an parameter
[21:01] <azerty3> these all package Pelo
[21:01] <greenjellow_> jrib:ok wait a sec i do lol
[21:01] <bala> in lunix sound is not coming... help me...
[21:01] <jrib> Pindaman: O, not 0
[21:01] <Pindaman> Ok
[21:01] <Pelo> azerty3, those aren'T packages those are repositories for an old release of ubuntu , why are you wanting packages in there ?
[21:01] <cisco> pindaman which box do i check
[21:01] <pilif12p> help?
[21:01] <cemc> thruxton: chrome IS the default browser, but thunderbird doesn't have any... it opens a window to select the app with which I want to open the url
[21:01] <pilif12p> something about untrusted source
[21:02] <Pindaman> cisco, are you in package manager now? Look for alsa. Or try to google the .tar.gz files
[21:02] <nh2> LiquidLion: unfortunately I've no link, but the procedure is as following: install a Virtual Machine software (e.g. Virtualbox), install debian inside it, set up a virtual network and copy over / to a mounted partition. (you have to make sure you chose the same file system in vm and real machine and delete the folders which are created automatically as /sys and /proc on the real machine)
[21:02] <propellerdnk> не знаю как переключиться на руский чат
[21:02] <Pelo> pilif12p, you'Re missing an authoriztion key, go back to wehre you got that repos and get the key
[21:02] <azerty3> yes i need those repositories to install this things mysql php5-mysql php-db mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5 php5-gd php-pear php-pear-DB sox curl
[21:02] <Pelo> !ru | propellerdnk
[21:02] <thruxton> cemc: ahh, sorry, misunderstood you..
[21:02] <cisco> i'm in package manager now
[21:02] <newguy2010> need serious help here.  I have lectures sent to me on CD they need to play in adobe...I am serious noob...
[21:02] <Pelo> azerty3, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[21:02] <LiquidLion> ok i'll give it a try. ty nh2
[21:03] <mtx_init> propellerdnk: I dont think many speak Cyrillic here
[21:03] <newguy2010> 9.10
[21:03] <cisco> i typed in alsa on search box
[21:03] <azerty3> 9.10 karmic
[21:03] <pilif12p> How do i know where i got the repos...?
[21:03] <ArchMage> i'm not sure my video card even has binary drivers
[21:03] <cisco> just wondering which box do i check
[21:03] <ArchMage> plus if the app worked when i first installed it i don't understand why it shouldn't work now
[21:03] <Pelo> azerty3, look in menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,  you can find those packages in there
[21:03] <mneptok> mtx_init: no speaks Cyrillic. it's the name of an alphabet. ;)
[21:03] <nh2> LiquidLion: no problem. you could also try "TestDrive" which seems to install debian/ubuntu isos in a Qemu/KVM machine
[21:03] <Pelo> azerty3, or new versions of them
[21:03] <nh2> ArchMage: try installing the ati proprietary drivers, reboot and check if the error persists
[21:03] <greenjellow> a program froze how do i force quit?
[21:03] <Pindaman> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-upgrade-to-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu.html maybe this link is usefull cisco
[21:03] <propellerdnk> russian chat?
[21:04] <Pelo> propellerdnk,   #ubuntu-ru
[21:04] <mtx_init> mneptok: a alphabet which is part of many languages, which is why I stated the alphabet rather then the actual unknow language.
[21:04] <newguy2010> how do i play flash media in ubuntu Karmic Koala
[21:04] <mneptok> !ru | propellerdnk
[21:04] <nh2> ArchMage: there are binary drivers if its a radeono
[21:04] <jrib> greenjellow: system -> administration -> system monitor
[21:04] <ArchMage> i don't think there are proprietary drivers my graphics card is like a 9100 IGP mobile
[21:04] <bala> help me!!!! sound is coming...
[21:04] <cisco> ty will try
[21:04] <jrib> !flash > newguy2010
[21:04] <propellerdnk> #ubuntu-ru
[21:04] <Pelo> newguy2010, instgall the restricted extras , look in the package manager at the bottom of the application menu
[21:04] <mtx_init> I should have been more clear
[21:04] <Pelo> propellerdnk,   /join #ubuntu-ru
[21:04] <ArchMage> it's not even in the selection list on the ati driver page
[21:05] <cisco> is that for ubuntu 9.10
[21:05] <thruxton> cemc: did you try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[21:05] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[21:05] <bala> help me... sound is not coming jaunty.....ti dont the exact repos 4 my sound card...any idea tghaty can help me
[21:06] <sagitta> Where can I find a printer driver for my Brother MFC-5460CN Printer ? ?
[21:06] <nh2> ArchMage: seems as if 9100 series were thrown out of fglrx in some release, but you could try an older one
[21:06] <jrib> !printing > sagitta
[21:06] <Pindaman> jrib, the command finised with no output. apt-get is still not able to update with the US and NL repo
[21:06] <jrib> Pindaman: there is your problem.  wget is basically just a web browser
[21:06] <azerty3> Pelo: the problem is if i install pakage from synaptics , by doing a quick search it list lots of content i don't know which one have to choose
[21:06] <ArchMage> i don't understand. as i said, it worked when i first installed it
[21:06] <ArchMage> why would a graphics card update change anything?
[21:07] <azerty3> and if i install everything it takes time
[21:07] <Pelo> azerty3, look for the one closest to the names you have
[21:07] <jrib> Pindaman: remove the "-q" and try again
[21:07] <ArchMage> plus i don't even know how to begin figuring out how to find propriertary drivers for this  card
[21:07] <newguy2010> I can play flash media in a web page but not on CD any help for this
[21:08] <Pelo> newguy2010, you can play flash media with  mplayer if I remember correctly
[21:08] <Pindaman> jrib, it was -O -  and not -O- right
[21:08] <jrib> Pindaman: they are equivalent
[21:08] <Pindaman> Oh
[21:08] <newguy2010> Pelo when I click the start file it opens the archive manager
[21:08] <Pelo> newguy2010, open mplayer first and then from there open the file
[21:09] <newguy2010> ill try
[21:09] <nh2> ArchMage: yes, it is indeed strange that it worked for the first time, I have no idea why. But if the prop. driver does not help anything, you can still search for another solutioin, so it might be worth a try. http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xorg-driver-fglrx seems to support 9100
[21:09] <azerty3> ok i ll try Pelo
[21:09] <libtech> i want to comment out some entries in the grub menu, i thought it was /boot/grub/menu.lst but i am not seeing this file? has it changed in 9.10?
[21:09] <nh2> how to prevent apt from upgrading firefox(-3.5) package while installing FF 3.6 (mozilla-ppa)?
[21:10] <cisco> hey pindaman i have 9.10 not 9.04
[21:10] <Pindaman> Yeah sorry, ill look again
[21:10] <cisco> would that still work
[21:10] <cisco> oh ok ty
[21:11] <ArchMage> so if i install this via synaptic it won't conflict with whatever i already have installed?
[21:11] <greenjellow> in pastebin i tripped the spambooster wtf is that lol
[21:11] <greenjellow> how can i post
[21:11] <Pindaman> cisco, what does "cat /proc/asound/version" output?
[21:11] <Pelo> ArchMage, if htere are conflicts you'll get a msg before the install begins
[21:11] <DEbiansqueeze> nh2 would aptitude pinning work for you ?
[21:12] <DEbiansqueeze> aptitude hold
[21:12] <cisco> where do i find that at
[21:12] <nh2> ArchMage: yeah you should try it, it will deny if it thinks it won't work
[21:12] <cemc> thruxton: yep, I tried that
[21:12] <thruxton> libtech: look at /etc/default/grub
[21:12] <newguy2010> exit
[21:13] <Kentrel> Is there a native tool in Ubuntu to monitor in real time my connection speed to a specific IP, or do I need to download something else to do it?
[21:13] <Pindaman> cisco, open an terminal and type "cat /proc/asound/version"
[21:13] <theRipper> hy all , i install apache and opnessl ,but when i install openssl don`t work, the site is same
[21:13] <Gnea> !info etherape
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> Kentrel: i think 'iptraf' will do that
[21:13] <theRipper> sorry for my english
[21:13] <Kentrel> ok
[21:13] <Pindaman> jrib, Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com|2001:7b8:3:37::21:2|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[21:14] <jrib> Pindaman: right, this is some sort of network issue
[21:14] <duckx0r> where is the default local mail storage in ubuntu?
[21:14] <ArchMage> once it's installed do i have to do something to switch to that driver?
[21:14] <jrib> Pindaman: maybe related to ipv6, i don't know
[21:14] <azerty3> installing a program by synaptic i got this error : E: roxen4-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:14] <azerty3> what i have to do ?
[21:14] <greenjellow> jrib:how do i post in pastebin it says im a spammer
[21:14] <jrib> duckx0r: why do you think there is one?  Ubuntu doesn't ship with any sort of MTA
[21:15] <jrib> greenjellow: use a different pastebin
[21:15] <greenjellow> ok
[21:15] <Parabola> will ubuntu 9.10 support ipod nano 4G (one right before the new video one)
[21:15] <Pelo> duckx0r, for what ? stuff for evolution is stored in the /home folder,  for the other kind of mail,  /var/mail ...
[21:15] <davef> I had to delete some files in /lib/modules to make room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now it says my system is broken, how do I remove linux-restricted-modules-xxx when some files are already removed?
[21:15] <Parabola> my girlfriend has a 4g, and i want to remove windows off her desktop
[21:15] <Kentrel> Thats what she said!
[21:15] <Parabola> rhytmbox, or gtkpod?
[21:15] <Catouey> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.1.0 from 9.0.4 on my VPS.  I get tye system fully upgraded and then run do-release-upgrade.  After it starts upgrading (as per the "Upgrading" message) I'm seeing "FATAL -> Failed to fork.  I haven't been able to figure how to fix this.  Anyone know what might cause this?
[21:15] <cisco> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20.........that what it said
[21:15] <Pelo> Parabola, better check in theforum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[21:16] <duckx0r> Pelo, I sent an e-mail to my user and I can get it using the mail command, but there are no files in my /var/mail/$USER folder
[21:16] <Pelo> Parabola, you can alway use songbird, looks a lot like itune
[21:16] <Pelo> duckx0r, /home/username/.mail maybe ?
[21:16] <Pindaman> Then try updating it with this cisco : http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/10/29/upgrade-alsa-1-0-21-on-ubuntu-karmic-koala-9-10/
[21:16] <Pelo> duckx0r, I don'T realy have a clue sorry
[21:16] <ArchMage> nh2, is there anything i have to do to enable this driver once it's installed?
[21:16] <azerty3> installing a program by synaptic i got this error : E: roxen4-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:17] <azerty3> is it notmal .?
[21:17] <duckx0r> Pelo, yeah I thought maybe something like that too, but it's not there either. thanks though
[21:17] <greenjellow> jrib: here's my error http://pastebin.mozilla.org/699254
[21:17] <cisco> ok brb ty
[21:17] <Pelo> azerty3, error msg are not normal no
[21:17] <azerty3> what i have to do ?
[21:17] <Pelo> azerty3, no idea what ishappening,  try doing a google search for the msg
[21:17] <jolaren> How do I write to see what directory I am in? I want to see all the directory way.. /home/user/desktop etc
[21:18] <davef> jolaren, 'pwd'
[21:18] <brontosaurusrex> jolaren: pwd
[21:18] <Pelo> jolaren, pwd I think
[21:18] <azerty3> again i try to install an other package at the final of installation process it give the same result
[21:18] <Pelo> later folks
[21:18] <azerty3> i dont where the blem is ???
[21:18] <lifestream> Hello, is there a GUI for the *new* Grub yet?
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> azerty3: no, that's not normal and can be hard to fix sometimes. i can probably help you fix it. but it may take a while irc texting to each other.
[21:19] <nh2> DEbiansqueeze: seems a good try, it stops overrdining my old packages, but still wants to remove packages like firefox-3.0-branding and firefox-3.0-gnome-support. How to get around this?
[21:19] <jrib> greenjellow: i have to go, post that to the channel
[21:19] <azerty3> WEll no problem i m motivate
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> azerty3: only other option is doing something like a remote-desktop session or something. might be interesting but i've never done it
[21:20] <azerty3> to understand what it happen
[21:20] <ChogyDan> azerty3: do you know what roxen is?
[21:20] <azerty3> coooooool
[21:20] <Pindaman> jrib, an idea to comment uit all the ip6 stuff in /etc/hosts? Theres no ip4 stuff inthere
[21:20] <azerty3> i give me pc
[21:20] <azerty3> to you ?
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> azerty3: is english not your first language?
[21:20] <azerty3> no the last one
[21:20] <greenjellow> ok thanks jrib
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> azerty3: roger, hehe
[21:21] <Catouey> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.1.0 from 9.0.4 on my VPS. I get tye system fully upgraded and then run do-release-upgrade. After it starts upgrading (as per the "Upgrading" message) I'm seeing "FATAL -> Failed to fork. I haven't been able to figure how to fix this. Anyone know what might cause this?
[21:21] <greenjellow> i need help with this error anyone up for it? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/699254
[21:21] <Pindaman> < afk for a min
[21:22] <ChogyDan> greenjellow: check your interwebs?
[21:22] <Guest64047> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:23] <UbuntuUser> Hi, i need help with IRC
[21:23] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:23] <UbuntuUser> i want to write in #ubuntu-de
[21:23] <azerty3> wat's up ?
[21:23] <greenjellow> chogydan:whats interwebs. internet? it's working
[21:23] <zagabar> Is there a command that displays the current traffic through a specified network device?
[21:23] <UbuntuUser> but the bot says: Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[21:23] <UbuntuUser> what to do?
[21:23] <kwk> hi
[21:23] <ChogyDan> greenjellow: use a browser and see if you can connect to those addresses.
[21:24] <ChogyDan> !register | UbuntuUser
[21:24] <greenjellow> o ok
[21:24] <dman777> does the live ubutnu contain a /etc/mtab?
[21:24] <mazda01_> ha, i was just coming to ask also. does someone know if a live session of ubuntu contain a /etc/mtab file?
[21:24] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?
[21:25] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:25] <mazda01_> joh6nn, what wireless card do you have? issue lspci
[21:25] <greenjellow> ChogyDan: i cant connect 404 error, how do i fix this?
[21:26] <theduke> how can I combine the output from two commands? or combine a regular string with a command output? like "Current date: " + date >> file.log
[21:26] <Catouey> When doing a 'do-release-upgrade' should  I change the repositories to the new OS before or after running do-release-upgrade?
[21:26] <joh6nn> mazda01_: atheros AR5212
[21:26] <ChogyDan> greenjellow: OH, you are using powerpc.  I thought they ended support for that
[21:26] <ChogyDan> Catouey: I thought that tool would do it for you
[21:26] <greenjellow> people still use it
[21:26] <toto__> hi guys! comeone there?
[21:27] <LordMetroid> So Ubuntu is using iBus now?
[21:27] <UbuntuUser> i dont want to register with password and email adress, some days ago I had not to register. Why now?
[21:27] <toto__> i have just installed ubuntu. wanted to try avant window navigator. it asks for a compositing like compiz
[21:27] <greenjellow> ChogyDan: i think i need another downlaod server or something
[21:27] <Catouey> ChogyDan: Thanks, I wasn't sure if that could be causing my FATAL -> Failed to fork errors on do-release-upgrade
[21:27] <ChogyDan> greenjellow: yes, but lack of support means the repos will get shutdown eventually
[21:27] <ChogyDan> !powerpc | greenjellow
[21:27] <toto__> which one should i go for? i htere a tuto? i d like to run it but having the choice between gnome or compiz as DE
[21:28] <thedcm> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawr
[21:28] <ripcord> UbuntuUser:  some channels have flags set that only allow registered users in them
[21:28] <thedcm> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:28] <greenjellow> ok thanks for the info
[21:28] <zagabar> WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
[21:28] <toto__> to run copiz do i have to run it in command line?
[21:28] <greenjellow> ima see what i can do
[21:28] <UbuntuUser> but ubuntu-de is an official irc support channel ...
[21:28] <toto__> *compiz
[21:28] <greenjellow> thanks
[21:28] <ChogyDan> greenjellow: yeah, you should be able to use the community repos or something, good luck
[21:29] <UbuntuUser> and it worked well in the past
[21:29] <ripcord> UbuntuUser: it depends on if the moderators want to set the flag or not. Sometimes they will set it temporarily to stop spam bots
[21:29] <UbuntuUser> ah ok
[21:29] <guntbert> UbuntuUser: if it is not too urgent please wait a few days - when the spam attacks are over the mode will be set back to normal
[21:30] <UbuntuUser> and 2nd problem: i want to join #mumble
[21:30] <ChogyDan> Catouey: yeah, I dunno.  I would check the !upgrade factoid and make sure you are fully updated
[21:30] <UbuntuUser> but following error: You need to be identified to join that channel
[21:30] <joh6nn> mazda01_: any ideas?
[21:30] <UbuntuUser> so i cant join nor register
[21:30] <lifestream> toto__, do you already have compiz installed? If so, go System->Preferences->Appearance     then click on the last tab, that says Visual Effects.... select.... "Normal" or "Extra"
[21:30] <Catouey> ChogyDan: I am fully updtated, I ran the update, upgrade, and full-upgrade commands 2x
[21:30] <guntbert> UbuntuUser: same as above - simply register
[21:30] <cisco> pindaman ty for your help it's telling me to restart my comp if anything goes wrong i will try and come back on it's hard to get Internet in Afghanistan but hopefully i did everything right
[21:31] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:31] <lifestream> toto__, then next time you start your computer, compiz will be running
[21:31] <UbuntuUser> but how to register at mumble without a tab in pidgin?
[21:31] <chazco> Hi... i'm trying to save a file from a website (a flv). Normally i can copy it from the firefox cache, but it automatically deletes itself as soon as it's complete. How can I prevent this from happening? Tried making the file read only with no luck...
[21:31] <toto__> lifestream: you mean the EXTRA visual effects ARE compiz?
[21:32] <nh2> toto__: yes
[21:32] <Pedro> I have an issue I am having some trouble resolving.  I have a single monitor at 1680x1050 but for some reason my Nvidia card is creating a wider screen that pans to the right.   How do I make it so that its only 1680x1050?
[21:32] <nh2> toto__: compiz is installed on ubuntu and enabled if you switch desktop effects to on
[21:32] <lifestream> nh2,  NORMAL  is compiz too, isn't it? It's just less CPU intensive effects, right?
[21:32] <ripcord> UbuntuUser: register with nickserv first then you should be able to get in to the channele
[21:33] <nh2> lifestream: yes, the first point in effects is compiz off, the second two are for on
[21:33] <Pedro> I have an issue I am having some trouble resolving.  I have a single monitor at 1680x1050 but for some reason my Nvidia card is creating a wider screen that pans to the right.   How do I make it so that its only 1680x1050?
[21:33] <guntbert> !register | UbuntuUser
[21:33]  * LiquidLion is away: is too distracted to pay attention (gone at 23rd Jan, 21:33:43)
[21:34] <Pedro> Something to do with X screen but how do I disable that??
[21:34] <LjL> !away > LiquidLion|AFK    (LiquidLion|AFK, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:34] <guntbert> UbuntuUser: its one registration for the network - not one for every channel
[21:34] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:34] <nh2> DEbiansqueeze: works fine now, I pin-disallowed all packages from the mozilla-ppa with Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net and set priority to -1000 and pin-allowed 300 the firefox-3.6 and firefox-3.6-gnome-support packages. Thanks for your hint!
[21:34] <UbuntuUser> for the freenode network?
[21:34] <MidnighToker> evening people. I'm looking for an app that will show me multiple clocks in different timezones. can anyone recommend something please? google is not helping.
[21:34] <toto__> nh2 great
[21:34] <toto__> thanks
[21:34] <toto__> i ll try normal then cause Extra is just too slow for my config
[21:34] <Pedro> Can someone help me with my screen panning when the mouse hits the right side?
[21:35] <toto__> i restart X
[21:35] <dman777> No /etc/mtab in the live ubununtu system. Is that normal for ubunutu?
[21:35] <guntbert> UbuntuUser: I suggest you join #freenode for further questions about acces to the network
[21:35] <guntbert> *access
[21:35] <MidnighToker> Pedro: open System -> Preferences -> Display and set your screen resolution to the correct one for your monitor.
[21:35] <makedonac144> yo
[21:35] <makedonac144> I have a question
[21:36] <makedonac144> My friend has a problem
[21:36] <lifestream> !ask | makedonac144
[21:36] <LjL> !info gworldclock | MidnighToker
[21:36] <duckx0r> that's not a question :P
[21:36] <lifestream> !enter | makedonac144
[21:36] <newguy2010> Ok i am lost.....cant save files to home folder only home/<username>  so cant install things that load from home menu
[21:36] <brophat> i want to make a UNR Flash drive using a mac, but the instructions are totally  confusing. anyone want to sum it up fo rme?
[21:36] <makedonac144> He's Ubuntu won't recongize his HDD in "My comptuer"
[21:36] <Xodiac13> i need help on finding the right distro for my video card i have a radeon hd 4350 and all i want to do is get 3d working so forth what would be the best distro for my video card
[21:36] <MidnighToker> LjL: thank you kindly
[21:36] <Pedro> MidnighToker:  When I try to set the resolution instead of leaving it on auto it black screens.
[21:36] <nh2> brophat: try unetbootin
[21:36] <LjL> newguy2010: err... what? /home/<username>/ *is* your home folder.
[21:37] <MidnighToker> Pedro: that will probably be your refresh causing problems.
[21:37] <brophat> nh2 that will make my flash drive?
[21:37] <joh6nn> newguy2010: i'm not sure i followed that.  what are you trying to do?
[21:37] <nh2> brophat: yeah you can chose a distri to install, it will even download it for you
[21:37] <Dekkard> Xodiac13:  !ati
[21:37] <Pedro> Midnightoker: I left the refresh on auto and I have also tried it on 60
[21:37] <makedonac144> How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but his HDD
[21:37] <nh2> brophat: it flashes it to a given usb drive
[21:37] <Xodiac13> !ati
[21:37] <newguy2010> guess i dont really know..my username is wmy76ram and that is where things download to but then the command in terminal reply cant find
[21:37] <nh2> brophat: and makes it bootable
[21:38] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:38] <MidnighToker> Pedro: hmm. what graphics card?
[21:38] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?
[21:38] <brophat> i gotta download unetbootin cause my mac say no such command found
[21:38] <Pedro> Nvidia GTX 285
[21:38] <makedonac144> How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but my HDD wont show in My computer
[21:39] <ArchMage> the fglrx drivers didn't work at all
[21:39] <LjL> newguy2010: you're trying to install programs by manually downloading them?
[21:39] <Pololoid> joh6nn: Try desabling IPv6
[21:39] <ArchMage> blender still doesn't work on a new username
[21:39] <nh2> hehe I recently thought Ubuntu wouldn't recognize my HD, too, so I disconnected power and reconnected some times, then I realized that the HD I searched for was actually in my cupboard instead of my computer and that I hat disconnected my normal system HD, but I didn't notice it because Ubuntu kept running ^^
[21:39] <Pedro> Midnightoker: Nvidia gtx 285
[21:39] <ArchMage> deleting ~/.blender
[21:39] <newguy2010> LjL: yes stuff like realplayer
[21:39] <joh6nn> Pololoid: i tried that; no discernible difference
[21:39] <ArchMage> didn't do anything, apt-get remove --purge blender and apt-get autoremove
[21:39] <MidnighToker> Pedro: have you tried using `nvidia-settings`?
[21:39] <makedonac144> How do you make your Ubuntu recognize your HDD in my computer, everything is recognized (external HDD, usb drive) but his HDD
[21:39] <ArchMage> then reinstalled blender. still doesn't work
[21:39] <Xodiac13> for my video card what about dual monitoring will i be able to do that with ease too
[21:39] <ArchMage> also still getting glxinfo errors
[21:39] <lifestream> makedonac144,  You mean, your Ubuntu HDD won't show up in Windows "My computer"?
[21:40] <nh2> ArchMage: can you run other opengl 2d or 3d apps?
[21:40] <makedonac144> In the Ubuntu explorer I mean
[21:40] <Pedro> Midnightoker: When I go to display settings it pops up the nvidia control panel
[21:40] <ArchMage> glxgears works fine
[21:40] <makedonac144> My Windows Crashed
[21:40] <LjL> newguy2010: you can use VLC to play most Real files, and VLC is in the repositories and doesn't involve doing strange things like you're attempting to...
[21:40] <makedonac144> I can boot it up anymore
[21:40] <LjL> !real > newguy2010    (newguy2010, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:40] <MidnighToker> Pedro: hmm... ok. you have a proper problem then. beyond my remit, i'm afraid. sorry
[21:40] <nh2> ArchMage: I think glxgears is not a so great example to try out (though i forgot the reason why), try something else
[21:41] <davidf> I'm trying to install a .deb for xgospel (an Internet Go client) and get the message: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs (>> 4.1.0)  Can not find xlibs package on Ubuntu Jaunty anywhere, or install it.  Any ideas?
[21:41] <newguy2010> it wont play this flash cd from my instructor..it used to play strat to Adobe Flah when I click the start.exe file
[21:41] <Pedro> MidnighToker:  I believe it has to do with X screen but the control panel will not let me disable it.
[21:41] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:41] <nh2> makedonac144: do a "sudo fdisk -l" and paste it via nopaste
[21:41] <ArchMage> well what would you like me to try
[21:42] <Pedro> MidnighToker:  It has my "X screen" dimensions set to 2960x1050 ... but won't let me disable that ... could it be I have to somehow run the nvidia thing as admin?
[21:42] <StaticShock> so, the man page for shutdown(8) says that the tool is just there for backwards compatibility with System V, and is pointless in Upstart. so is there a different, upstart-specific way to shut down / restart etc?
[21:43] <joh6nn> Pololoid: any other ideas?
[21:43] <nh2> ArchMage: not sure, perhaps try supertuxkart
[21:43] <ArchMage> compiz desktop cube works fine too
[21:43] <ArchMage> even with rotate
[21:43] <Pololoid> joh6nn: No
[21:43] <_marius> please help with importing another repositories to svn server
[21:43] <Xodiac13> is it easy to do dual monitors with ubuntu?
[21:44] <nh2> ArchMage: hmm then opengl should work fine
[21:44] <ArchMage> yes
[21:44] <pembroke> HI
[21:44] <ArchMage> however blender still segfaults immediately
[21:44] <ArchMage> the window pops up and closes immediately
[21:44] <joh6nn> _marius: i'm not sure anyone here is going to be able to help you with that.  that's more of a specific svn question, than a distro question
[21:44] <nh2> perhaps the version of blender uses some newer opengl commands your graphics card doesn't understand
[21:44] <pembroke> how can I change the options for resolution?
[21:44] <nh2> ArchMage: could you try a rather old version of blender?
[21:45] <ArchMage> then it shouldn't have worked when i first installed it
[21:45] <ArchMage> i used it for like 4 hours
[21:45] <mneptok> ArchMage: what output do you get when running Blender from the command line?
[21:45] <benji_> Hi, is there a bootclean.sh somewhere in ubuntu distro?
[21:45] <nh2> makedonac144: it's "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:45] <makedonac144> My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me
[21:45] <ArchMage> arcane@Tiamat:~$ blender
[21:45] <ArchMage> Compiled with Python version 2.6.4.
[21:45] <ArchMage> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[21:45] <ArchMage> Segmentation fault
[21:45] <_marius> joh6nn: where could i get help? it's very important for me to solve it
[21:46] <mneptok> ArchMage: and have you tried booting to an earlier kernel?
[21:46] <FloodBot4> ArchMage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <ArchMage> i wasn't running on an earlier kernel when i was using it for four hours yesterday :(
[21:46] <davef> I had to delete some files in /lib/modules to make room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now it says my system is broken, how do I remove linux-restricted-modules-xxx when some files are already removed?
[21:47] <makedonac144> My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me
[21:47] <mneptok> ArchMage: have you tried deleting all the Blender prefs in your home dir?
[21:48] <mneptok> ArchMage: and try disabling Compiz.
[21:48] <ArchMage> yes
[21:48] <nh2> ArchMage: perhaps there is indeed something wrong with your card. you could try letting it cool a down a bit. You could also try starting blender from a ubuntu live cd which will make sure it isnt't your system that has changed
[21:48] <ArchMage> compiz is not on
[21:48] <macman_> question .. i have an external usb hdd that connects via ide to usb dongle .. windows can read it but ubuntu/linux can't .. are there any apps out there that can force the external hdd to be read .. the FS is ntfs
[21:48] <joh6nn> _marius: no idea.  perhaps try and find a subversion channel?
[21:48] <ArchMage> also apparently i was getting no glxinfo errors yesterday
[21:48] <ArchMage> and today i am
[21:48] <_marius> joh6nn: ok. tks a lot
[21:48] <nh2> makedonac144: you have to post the output of sudo fdisk -l somewhere so that we can read it
[21:48] <ArchMage> so i'm inclined to believe that issue is related
[21:49] <init2winit77> How do I install more FONT types and make them accessible system wide?
[21:49] <makedonac144> My Windows Vista won't boot anymore, I had only one partition and I wanted to recover my files using Ubuntu Live CD, But Ubuntu does not recognize my HDD, It's not showed anywhere. Someone please help me
[21:49] <JustMozzy> hi guys. I've been searching on the net for OVI for linux. I found several forum entries talking about it and some people said they downloaded and tried it but I couldn't find any links. can someone help?
[21:49] <nh2> init2winit77: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[21:50] <ArchMage> how can i disable DRI in 9.10?
[21:50] <ArchMage> i don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:51] <init2winit77> nh2: thank you
[21:51] <gerob> How do I turn off X screen?
[21:51] <iAmerikan> Has anyone been successful in browsing a bluetooth device?
[21:51] <nh2> ArchMage: sudo Xorg -configure  will create an xorg.conf
[21:52] <ArchMage> is there no way to disable DRI without dealing with an xorg.conf?
[21:52] <Ferris-> is there any way to change the graphical menu structure? so i can click to open a box where i can click to open a box to chose a program to run rather than having this list of options <applications, places, system> in front of me
[21:53] <lifestream> Is there a GRUB2 GUI yet?
[21:53] <DarkDigitalDream> Does anyone know offhand what command would be able to tell me the last time a folder (or any contents in a folder) had any data added, removed, or altered?
[21:53] <Pololoid> No
[21:53] <nh2> ArchMage: I don't think so, it might work with a HAL fdi file but it seems way harder than editing xorg.conf
[21:54] <cdahmedeh> hello, i am running xubuntu 9.10 and want to permanently disable touchpad tapping, in gnome, there was checkbox to disable it. in xfce there anything. i tried disable via the xinput configuration in command line, but it's reset when i resume after suspend
[21:54] <nh2> ArchMage: you can still fiddle with HAL in case disabling dri helps
[21:54] <nh2> cdahmedeh: synclient is your friend. there should be a command
[21:54] <Kubi> anyone know how to disable overscan on a vga monitor?
[21:54] <IceDane> I just tried starting my ubuntu server box up again, and tried to upgrade. For some reason, it is erroring on openoffice packages, and they are preventing me from getting new packages and they won't be removed. Error is: Removing openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us ...
[21:54] <IceDane> /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.postrm: 6: update-openoffice-dicts: not found
[21:55] <apipkin> i have ubuntu 9.10 and compiz keeps reloading and it makes it incredibly difficult to do anything. how do i fix this?
[21:55] <Guest9637> i have a question
[21:56] <hiexpo> hello all
[21:56] <nh2> cdahmedeh: sorry syndaemon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:56] <nh2> cdahmedeh: -t option
[21:57] <JustMozzy> can someone help me to make my N series phone visible as a media player to ubuntu?
[21:57] <hiexpo> lost my hd last night :(
[21:57] <cdahmedeh> it still doesn't work with synclient, touchpad tapping is disabled at first. when i suspend, and then resume, tapping works again, and i want tapping to be disable permanently
[21:58] <CNLiberal> can anyone tell me why my 9.10 x32 box is no longer serving out NFS3?  when I do a ps aux I see this:  /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --manage-gids --no-nfs-version 3
[21:58] <lifestream> DarkDigitalDream, ls -lt  | grep NameOfYourFolder     could be a start.. run [man ls] to see help.
[21:58] <Linocks> hello
[21:58] <cdahmedeh> oh wait, i missed nh2's post
[21:59] <amaurea> How do I use the usb virtual file system (usbfs) in ubuntu? /proc/bus/usb is not mounted here
[21:59] <ArchMage> this is the most frustrating crap ever
[21:59] <Linocks> Hello I can't seem to get my wireless card working
[21:59] <DarkDigitalDream> lifestream, getting close. I was looking at stat, myself. What I am doing is making a bash script that tells xmms2 to update the media library if it has been changed since last checked.
[21:59] <lifestream> Ah, so you need the whole script
[22:00] <hiexpo> ArchMage, - whats wrong ?
[22:00] <BenutzerConny> Good evening. Is it possible to say the split command, not cut a line - do the cut at the begin of a line f. e.?
[22:00] <amaurea> nevermind, it has been moved to /dev/bus/usb
[22:00] <heroid> where can i add empathy plug-ins i want to add now-playing?
[22:00] <DarkDigitalDream> lifestream, well It should really only be 2 lines, so at least half of it haha. I just need the 'has the directory changed' part. I guess I can use the total directory size?
[22:00] <Linocks> can anyone help? it is a belkin
[22:00] <sdbinwiiexe> How can I change what partition to boot on my PC?  Say it's windows (/dev/sda1), but I want it to be Ubuntu (/dev/sda3)?
[22:00] <davef> What's the best music player for large collections of music (over NFS, if it matters)?
[22:01] <sdbinwiiexe> not using grub configurations\
[22:01] <BenutzerConny> davef: atunes works
[22:01] <CNLiberal> i had to killall the rpc.mountd and then start it again after the port mapper service was on
[22:01] <CNLiberal> now everything's cool, but i don't know why it hung to begin with
[22:01] <hiexpo> sdbinwiiexe, - you have a dual boot setup?
[22:02] <sdbinwiiexe> yes
[22:02] <hiexpo> with ubuntu and windows
[22:02] <sdbinwiiexe> yes
[22:02] <Pololoid> WUBI?
[22:02] <sdbinwiiexe> partitioned
[22:02] <sdbinwiiexe> not wubi
[22:02] <paddymelon121> hey guys... how can i create an easy gui in my c++ program in ubuntu/linux?
[22:02] <davef> BunutzerConny: atunes? I don't see that in synaptic.
[22:02] <david> hello
[22:02] <Linocks> Hello can anyone help me to get my belkin wireless card working?
[22:02] <hiexpo> does a grub not come up when you boot to give you option
[22:03] <sdbinwiiexe> no, it boots straight into windows
[22:03] <david> how do i edit stuff as superuser
[22:03] <Linocks> @david hello
[22:03] <Guest37807> hi
[22:03] <DarkDigitalDream> lifestream, I think I can make do with using a simple 'du --max-depth=0 <directory>'
[22:03] <Guest37807> <--- David
[22:03] <Guest37807> :)
[22:03] <paddymelon121> Guest37807 sudo -command-
[22:03] <davef> Guest37807: sudo <editorname> <filename>
[22:04] <paddymelon121> or sudo -i
[22:04] <lifestream> DarkDigitalDream, Yeah, size could work :P What I was thinking was much more complicated :P
[22:04] <Guest37807> wich editor is good?
[22:04] <hiexpo> im thinking one sec
[22:04] <paddymelon121> Guest37807, for gui, gedit
[22:04] <lifestream> DarkDigitalDream,  I'm quite the bash scripting beginner, not a pro :P  BUT I think ls -lt /path/to/music/ would be enough.  You could use  sed (man sed) to extract  the date/time part. Then save that date/time to a file... Next time the script runs, it could compare the new date/time and compare it with the old date/time that was saved on a file earlier.
[22:04] <davef> Guest37807: I guess you probably want something like gedit.  I usually use 'mg', but I wouldn't recommend it.
[22:05] <paddymelon121> Guest37807, for non-gui/terminal, nano
[22:05] <iAmerikan> can anyone help me with compiling gnome-vfs-obexftp-0.1 ?
[22:05] <Guest37807> if i type sudo gedit (file name) on the command propmt will it work on GUI?
[22:05] <hiexpo> will it boot into ubuntu
[22:06] <Guest37807> let me try
[22:06] <davef> Guest37807: yes, gedit will pop up a window, and let you use the mouse.
[22:06] <paddymelon121> can i make a c++ program with a gui that starts functions when buttons are pressed easily?
[22:06] <DarkDigitalDream> lifestream, as much as I love programming, I probably know less about bash scripting than you. I've only made a few trivial scripts over the last 5 years I have spent with linux. just the idea of using sed to extract strings from output intimidates me :P
[22:06] <lifestream> Me too, me too :X Sed is creepy
[22:07] <DarkDigitalDream> awk is just as creepy in my eyes
[22:07] <nh2> paddymelon121: "easily" depends, I think yes if you know how to program c++. In this case, try the Qt Creator
[22:07] <paddymelon121> can i make a c++ program with a gui that starts functions when buttons are pressed easily?
[22:07] <paddymelon121> thanks nh2
[22:07] <hiexpo> sdbinwiiexe,  - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot read this it will help you
[22:08] <jellow> i only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.10
[22:08] <paddymelon121> i heard it may be easier, nh2, but, wats the difference between it and gtk?
[22:08] <nh2> Guest37807: can you specify your question?
[22:08] <Guest37807> BRB
[22:08] <aBsolutex3> hello all
[22:08] <plok> I want to boot 9.10 desktop from a flash drive, but I can only find the .iso file, not the .img. Can anybody help me out?
[22:09] <microhaxo> I have a quick question, is it possible for me to make it so there can only be 1 browser window open at one time?
[22:09] <mobi-sheep> !usb | plok
[22:09] <jellow> i only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.10
[22:09] <jellow> !sound | jellow
[22:09] <davef> Anyone know how to fix broken packages (broke because I deleted some files).  I actually want the whole package removed.
[22:09] <Linocks> Hello can anyone help me to get my belkin wireless card working?
[22:09] <DarkDigitalDream> paddymelon121, this doesnt fall into the realm of 'easy' (maybe not even practical for what you are doing) but I use SDL for video game development, and that would work for nice GUI's
[22:09] <nh2> paddymelon121: GTK is written in C, Qt in C++. The may look differently, GTK uses Windows widgets on windows, Qt emulates them. The way you handle things is different between them. Wikipedia will tell you more detailed things
[22:09] <paddymelon121> whats the difference between qt and gtk? Anyone?
[22:10] <guntbert> plok: you can create the flash drive with the usb creator in ubuntu
[22:10] <joh6nn> paddymelon121: that's a rather involved question.  why do you ask?
[22:10] <infid> how can i have ubuntu popup a bubble everytime i get a new gmail?
[22:10] <paddymelon121> joh6nn... wat do u mean?
[22:10] <joh6nn> davef: are you comfortable with the command line?
[22:10] <nh2> infid: use a program that uses ubuntu notifications or install a plugin for your mail program
[22:11] <plok> ubottu: I read both pages, but it says i have to use img file to boot from a flash drive, and 9.10 desktop is not distributed in img file
[22:11] <davef> joh6nn: yes.
[22:11] <microhaxo> I have this ubuntu setup for a person with special needs and he likes to open many browser windows, he doesn't understand the concept of tabs. How can i limit him to just 1 window open.
[22:11] <infid> nh2 do you know of any
[22:11] <DarkDigitalDream> infid, have you considered linking your gmail account to thunderbird and using it?
[22:11] <paddymelon121> joh6nn... wat do u mean?
[22:11] <joh6nn> paddymelon121: the answer to that question is sort of technical, so i'm wondering why you're asking, and what you're trying to do; there may be an easier answer, than explaining the full difference between those 2
[22:11] <DarkDigitalDream> if thunderbird is running and you get an e-mail, you get a popup
[22:11] <infid> DarkDigitalDream: will i still be able to access gmail from the web if i do that?
[22:11] <DarkDigitalDream> infid, yes
[22:11] <infid> ok ill try that then thanks
[22:12] <paddymelon121> joh6nn, im trying to make a gui for my C++ program
[22:12] <DarkDigitalDream> infid, the only downside I see is that your e-mail takes up space on your hard drive as well as googles. But this is good for finding emails when you are offline
[22:12] <nh2> infid: I'd expect evolution to do so, but have not tried it, http://ubublogger.wordpress.com/ubuntu-notify-for-thunderbird/ could work, too
[22:12] <microhaxo> Anyone? Is there any way to only allow 1 window run?
[22:12] <davef> joh6nn: I removed some files from /lib/modules that old kernels were using, so I'd have room to upgrade to 9.10.  Now I can't remove the package.  And I can't install anything, bucause they are broken.
[22:12] <nh2> paddymelon121: in this case, you should really use Qt Creator, the workflow is quite nice
[22:13] <nh2> paddymelon121: its in the ubuntu repo
[22:13] <jellow> i only get cracking noise from my speakers , ubuntu 9.10
[22:13] <joh6nn> davef: `sudo apt-get purge packagename` should remove the package, and all it's settings.  you could also try `apt-get install --reinstall packagename`
[22:13] <paddymelon121> nh2, ok, thanks, ill check it out
[22:13] <theRipper> how to find a line text with search in linux ?
[22:13] <infid> theRipper: grep?
[22:13] <DarkDigitalDream> microhaxo, I dont know much about this, but I have heard that KDE has a 'kiosk mode' if you install the right package. That might give the limitations you are looking for. no promises though
[22:14] <joh6nn> paddymelon121: well, gtk is the gui framework that Gnome uses.  Qt is the framework that KDE uses.  beyond that, the answers start to get pretty indepth
[22:14] <joh6nn> paddymelon121:  if you use Gnome, then i'd say use gtk.  if you use KDE, then i'd suggest Qt
[22:15] <paddymelon121> joh6nn, thanks
[22:15] <paddymelon121> that helps a lot
[22:15] <joh6nn> no problem :)
[22:15] <joh6nn> davef: if that doesn't get you anywhere, let me know
[22:15] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?
[22:15] <paddymelon121> is there a simple editor for gtk or do i need to learn the api?
[22:16] <theRipper> infid thanks
[22:17] <joh6nn> paddymelon121: no idea, that's out of my league :)
[22:17] <microhaxo> Thanks DarkDigitalDream
[22:17] <paddymelon121> joh6nn, thanks for your help today!
[22:17] <joh6nn> no problem :)
[22:17] <davef> joh6nn: no good.  It's trying to remove them before it will try anything else, since they are old.
[22:18] <joh6nn> davef: what errors are you getting?  PM them to me if they're longer than just a few lines
[22:18] <renan> Ola
[22:18] <BenutzerConny> Any hint where to ask, to improve my "split" knowledge (transform big file into small ones)?
[22:18] <renan> sou novo no Ubunto
[22:19] <renan> alguem poderia me ajudar?
[22:19] <lifestream> !pt
[22:19] <Pololoid> #ubuntu-pt
[22:19] <lifestream> :D
[22:19] <davef> joh6nn: I think I got it.  I just need to mkdir and touch any files it says aren't there until it works.  Thank god it isn't doing any md5sums on the files before deleting them.
[22:19] <renan> dica simples
[22:19] <renan>  meu Gaim
[22:19] <jellow> I have sound issue , I can only hear background noise , Stoppign alsa or uninstalling alsa has no effect , What is going on?
[22:19] <renan> esta com problema de protocolo
[22:19] <wr4pp3r> join #ubuntu-charlas
[22:20] <joh6nn> davef: heh.  that works :)
[22:20] <mneptok> !pt | renan
[22:20] <masingerz> Hi what is a good version for asus 1000he
[22:20] <renan> como faço para acessar  o  locla informado
[22:20] <renan> local**
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> masingerz:  the ubuntu UNR version works good on my netbooks
[22:21] <djuggler> Anyone use a utility that captures images as they cross your network? I seem to recall one that put the images on a screen saver.
[22:21] <Johnny_425> I need to merge two partitions, how do I do it?
[22:21] <Guest35010> witam
[22:21] <paddymelon121> ok, now can anyone help me with why, after upgrading to karmic from jaunty, my gdm wont boot? It hangs on the first screen but, if i go into a shell with repair mode and type 'gdm' it works fine. I had to register my gconf schema when i first upgraded but,
[22:22] <paddymelon121> it is otherwise fine
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> Johnny_425:  what filesystems? are they side by side on the disk layout? are they both primary? extended/logicals?
[22:23] <davef> djuggler: I remember something like that used for wireless.  I know it had 'air' in the name. Let me see if I can find it.
[22:23] <david> i have a question
[22:23] <david> i want to install aterm
[22:23] <david> sudo apt-get install aterm
[22:23] <infid> is there anyway to make rhythmbox have a black background?
[22:24] <Guest49088> i want to install aterm
[22:24] <Guest49088> sudo apt-get install aterm
[22:24] <spunk> Hello, can anyone recommend an application similar to MS Visio for Linux? (I don't recognize dia as an alternative...)
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> !find aterm
[22:24] <Guest49088> but what do i do then?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  run 'aterm' perhaps from the alt-f2 prompt
[22:25] <Guest49088> wen i install it do i need to do, make?
[22:25] <Guest49088> make is to compile it?
[22:25] <jellow> I have sound issue , I can only hear background noise , Stoppign alsa or uninstalling alsa has no effect , What is going on?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  you installed it from the repos/package manager.. its allready installed once you do the apt-get install command.
[22:25] <marcosRz> can someone here type my nickname to check if notifications are ok?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  you are not using source.
[22:25] <Guest49088> o cool
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> !apt | Guest49088
[22:25] <guntbert> marcosRz: that what #test  is for
[22:25] <davef> djuggler: Maybe this: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~chris/driftnet/
[22:25] <djuggler> davef: thanks
[22:26] <marcosRz> cool
[22:26] <marcosRz> thanks
[22:26] <Johnny_425> how do i merge free disk space with a partition
[22:26] <guntbert> marcosRz: :)
[22:26] <marcosRz> thanks guys
[22:26] <marcosRz> its working
[22:26] <meowbuntu> hi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd kubuntu live cd says i have some.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Johnny_425:  what filesystems? are they side by side on the disk layout? are they both primary? extended/logicals?
[22:27] <meowbuntu> !isp
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> Johnny_425:  short answer - use gparted.. but you proberly will have to move data from one to the 2nd.. then shrink the 1st.. and enlarge the 2nd..  repeate as needed
[22:27] <djuggler> davef: that looks good! EtherPeg was the one I recalled hearing about before. Now that I see the name and am reminded it was only on Mac that jumped out. I'll give driftnet a try.
[22:28] <Losha> meowbuntu: what kind of filesystem do you have on the hdd?
[22:28] <meowbuntu> hi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd ubuntu live cd says i have some.
[22:28] <pilif12p> ugh
[22:28] <alvaro> ola
[22:28] <Haiti> hola
[22:28] <meowbuntu> i know xp could lable them and not use them.
[22:29] <Losha> meowbuntu: Please answer the question: what kind of filesystem do you have on the hdd?
[22:29] <meowbuntu> linux what else
[22:29] <meowbuntu> ext 4
[22:29] <LjL> !sudoedit | Guest49088
[22:29] <meowbuntu> Losha: I AM GOING TO INSTALL UBUNTU ON THIS HDD
[22:30] <Taklop> Hey guys some halp pl0x ;) How to install a live version of ubuntu onto a portable hardrive, then create a writeable partition on it, so the live ubuntu can write onto it?
[22:30] <toto__> hi i m back
[22:30] <toto__> i m trying to install themes in gnome but "not valid theme"
[22:30] <toto__> it s a .tar.gz (raptor theme)
[22:31] <meowbuntu> Haiti: is spamming me in a pm watch out for him
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> Taklop:  you could make the HD be a linux filesystem such as ext3, install grub2. and have grub2 boot a ubuntu ISO file as one way.
[22:31] <Losha> meowbuntu: please don't shout (using caps is shouting).
[22:31] <kojak012> Hello
[22:31] <meowbuntu> Losha: oops
[22:31] <kojak012> I have a question
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> Taklop:  thers also guides at pendrivelinux.com on making a 'casper' save file on a usb drive/live install.
[22:31]  * Losha Haiti is sending racist PMs. The usual nonsense rants....
[22:31] <kojak012> JPATH_COMPONENT_SITE returns in format /var/www/html
 My friend!  I think this might interest you!  Now that the Obama Nigger Tide is rapidly in retreat, the time for us to act is NOW!  Tired of Niggers and their monkeyshines?  Can't join the KKK because you are not White?  This is Billy Mayes here with an amazing new website!  Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum  Chimpout Forum welcomes anybody who hates niggers and isn't a nigger.      Asian?  No Problem!  Jew
[22:32] <kojak012> instead http://www.mydomain.com
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> toto__:  look whats in the archive. it could be theres some extra files/archives inside it.
[22:32] <meowbuntu> ^ Haiti just sent me that in a pm
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  not in here please.. just use /ignore
[22:32] <guntbert> meowbuntu: please don't paste that
[22:32] <libtech> wow
[22:32] <DARKGuy> hahahahaah WTF xD
[22:32] <Losha> meowbuntu: you just made it worse by repeating it...
[22:32] <LjL> meowbuntu: report in #ubuntu-ops - don't repeat here please ;(
[22:32] <mike998> Wow... great start to the evening!
[22:32] <meowbuntu> thanks haiti is now on ignore
[22:32] <Taklop> Dr_Willis: Thanks man
[22:32] <toto__> Dr_Willis: ok, and to instal icons themes?
[22:32] <DARKGuy> Oh, humans.
[22:32] <DARKGuy> :P
[22:32] <guntbert> meowbuntu: and don't paste that there again
[22:33] <mike998> Does anyone know how to enable framebuffer in 9.10?
[22:33] <kojak012>  JPATH_COMPONENT_SITE returns in format /var/www/html instead http://www.mydomain.com
[22:33] <meowbuntu> LjL: how do i report that
[22:33] <LjL> meowbuntu: join #ubuntu-ops and tell them.
[22:33] <meowbuntu> stop all telling me i get it
[22:33] <nh2> mike998: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[22:33] <meowbuntu> Losha: how do i fix my hdd so i can install to it
[22:34] <jack5463> is .XLSB something that can be run as an animation?
[22:34] <mike998> nh2: I looked at that, but when I add the line vga=792 to the kernel line, I can't find my root partition
[22:35] <meowbuntu> LjL: how can i report that pm to ops
[22:35] <meowbuntu> gunbert how can i report a spam pm to ops
[22:35] <LjL> meowbuntu: *join* the channel #ubuntu-ops by typing /join #ubuntu-ops and *tell* them.
[22:35] <Pici> meowbuntu: Its already taken care of.
[22:36] <guntbert> !tab | meowbuntu
[22:36] <nh2> mike998: thats strange, it should not change anything except from graphics. you have to add it to the kernel line, not not delete the other parameters, it should work then
[22:37] <mike998> nh2: rather than the usual root=hda5 reference, I have a uuid.
[22:37] <snake_> My microphone won't work
[22:37] <nh2> mike998: shoud still work if you don't delete that, just put your vga line at the end of the line
[22:38] <Laibsch> If you could buy either the Asus 1005P or the MSI U115 netbook which one would you choose (if both were available to you for the same price)?
[22:38] <toto__> how do in install an icon theme?
[22:38] <jellow> after "sudo alsa force-unload" i can no longer reload the asa sound module , how do i do it?
[22:38] <Laibsch> maybe more appropriate in -offtopic
[22:38] <snake_> My microphone won't work can anyone help me out ?
[22:38] <meowbuntu> gunbert i am a lonterm user of irc i know that
[22:39] <meowbuntu> hi how can i fix bad sectors on a hdd ubuntu live cd says i have some.
[22:39] <VCoolio> toto__: drag and drop the .tar.gz in the appearance window
[22:39] <guntbert> meowbuntu: then why don't you use it? (my nick is not gunbert :-))
[22:39] <spenser> Hello can anyone reccomend me to a c programming channel?
[22:39] <VCoolio> toto__: or extract in ~/.icons, then select it in appearance > customize > icons
[22:40] <snake_> My microphone won't work
[22:40] <meowbuntu> whatever guntbert dont be pickey
[22:40] <guntbert> meowbuntu: :)
[22:40] <spenser> I'm trying to write a daemon in C that polls a couple serial ports and adds the data to a database.
[22:40]  * meowbuntu is trying to get help but instead gets told off. I NEED HELP 
[22:40] <snake_> Mt mic won't werk
[22:41] <guntbert> !repeat | snake_
[22:41] <snake_> ugh
[22:41] <meowbuntu> !ask | snake_
[22:41] <DarkDigitalDream> meowbuntu, fsck helped fix my hard drive when my computer shut off while it was in mid-write. Maybe it'll help you out too
[22:41] <iAmerikan> Can anyone help me find what serial port used for bluetooth w/ my phone?
[22:42] <meowbuntu> DarkDigitalDream: i have bad sectors i was going to install, to this hdd
[22:42] <iAmerikan> I've used sdptool to find it but there are multiple entries
[22:42] <guntbert> meowbuntu: short answer: buy a new HD
[22:42] <meowbuntu> is there a tool that i can use to scan hdd and get a readout
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> I thought the mkfs command scanned/marked sectors.. using badblocks..
[22:42] <guntbert> meowbuntu: smartmontools could help
[22:43] <meowbuntu> ok guntbert i will use another spare one. y can xp work and just ignore bad sectors and be fine
[22:43] <spenser> Anyone know of a good C programming channel for Linux?
[22:43] <tsimpson> try ##C
[22:43] <spenser> thanks
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  its very likely it will not 'be fine'
[22:44] <DarkDigitalDream> meowbuntu, linux can ignore the bad sectors too, but if your hard drive is showing signs of trouble do you really want to trust it to hold your data?
[22:44] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: in xp it would be
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  it will work for a while till it needsd somd data from the bad sectors.. then proberly crash
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  No it wont.. it will act ok for a while.. and very likely will just crash a bit more often
[22:44] <johan__> hi everyone, i have a problem installing my ati radeon 9550 display driver on ubuntu 9.10, i have looked everyhere and have only found solutions to lower versions of ubuntu
[22:44] <iAmerikan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/361576/ which channel should I use to bind bluetooth in RFCOMM?
[22:44] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: i know xp lables teh bad sectors and ignors them permintly and never rights to them.
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  the badblocks command can scan for bad blocks.  if you wanted to. partion the drive where the bad ones are in a partion you dont use. (thats still risky)
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  if some are bad.. more are likely to go bad at any time. I wouldent put anything impiorntant on that HD. Good Luck
[22:45] <Paschu> Hey, how to change the size of a partition in windows???
[22:45] <arand> meowbuntu: I know that some manufacturers supply boot disks which can re-allocate the bad sectors so thaey won't interfere, last time I tried one this involved reformatting the whole disk though... So depends on whether or not that is worth the hassle of reinstalling everything...
[22:45] <Ahox> Hi, how do I display the iowait for a specific job?
[22:45] <meowbuntu> ok i will use another spare hdd i have. thanks all
[22:45] <johan__> hi everyone, i have a problem installing my ati radeon 9550 display driver on ubuntu 9.10, i have looked everyhere and have only found solutions to lower versions of ubuntu
[22:45] <queso> is there a way to have windows display while resizing, instead of only displaying an outline?
[22:45] <iAmerikan> Paschu, partition magic.
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  segate has tools like arand  just mentioned.
[22:45] <loris> ciao
[22:45] <Guest49088> anyone know how to turn aterm transparent?
[22:45] <loris> !list
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> I still dont trust hard drives  that have that
[22:46] <meowbuntu> arand: its a spare hdd. what is teh software you are refering to
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  use a terminal that has the feature built in.. or use the compiz features to enabel true transparancy of any window.
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  aterm might have 'fake' transpraency
[22:46] <usser> johan__, ati dropped support for your card in the newest driver, and old drivers dont work with 9.10
[22:46] <Guest49088> ill try that
[22:46] <Guest49088> thanks
[22:47] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: what are the applications called
[22:47] <Paschu> but partition magic is not free
[22:47] <jolaren> What do you use sabnzbd for? I understand it has to do with downloading and usenet but nothing else
[22:47] <arand> meowbuntu: depending on the manufacturer of the disk, look at the their webpage for any utility/tools they might supply.
[22:47] <iAmerikan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/361576/ which channel should I use to bind bluetooth in RFCOMM?
[22:48] <meowbuntu> ok thanks arand
[22:48] <Paschu> Hey, how to change the size of a partition in windows??? Parition Magic is not for free
[22:48] <toto__> ok thanks
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  some tool i downloaded from the segate web site wwas what i used on my segate drive. Even after i used the tool - it 'fixed' things.. I still dont trust the drive. Its now the wifes 'videos' drive.
[22:48] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, - when you get a minute i haveone im stck on
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  oh? :)
[22:48] <hiexpo> lol
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> Guest49088:  check 'man aterm' why are you even using aterm?
[22:49] <iAmerikan> Paschu, this isn't a windows support channel :\
[22:49] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: arand what would i look for on segate site as its a segate hdd
[22:49] <Paschu> iAmerikan: Ow come on, its only a little question
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  i dont rember. i got it over a year ago.
[22:49] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; anyone have any ideas on what could be causing this?
[22:49] <Pindaman> ipv6?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:   You can also enter the serial# on the segate site and see if its still under warrenty. If it fails teh tests.. You can send it back. :) they replaced 2 500gb hd;s for me.
[22:50] <erUSUL> !compila
[22:50] <erUSUL> !compile
[22:50] <cinali> hi
[22:50] <iAmerikan> Paschu, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=partition+manager+windows+free&aq=f&aql=&aqi=g1&oq=
[22:50] <q8sp> hello
[22:50] <Wrob> yo
[22:51] <cinali> Dear Ubuntu fans!
[22:51] <hiexpo> i had to do a fresh install lost my hard drive so got all my software reinstalled now no big but clamtk is outof date so i downloaded a new version no big but what is the right way to install it as an update?
[22:51] <cinali> I ahve one question to ask if anyone can answere I aprriciate alot
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i just install clamav and the front ends.. and run 'sudo freshclam' (i think)
[22:51] <Wrob> enybady know , The Sims 3 has started in Wine 1,1,36?? (Sory for my English)
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i dont bother updateing the actual client/core. but im lazy :)
[22:51] <Slart> cinali: and we would appreciate it if you just asked your question....so we had a chance of trying to answer it =)
[22:52] <hiexpo> i jusok
[22:52] <pirre> hi, I'm experiencing some problems while trying to upgrade my Ubuntu, I was wondering if anyone here could help me
[22:52] <hiexpo> so u dont bother with the gui
[22:52] <azerty3> hi there
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  perhaps this --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-clam-antivirus-with-gtk-frontend-gui.html
[22:52] <Slart> Wrob: check http://appdb.winehq.org  they have a list of apps/games and reports on how good they work in wine
[22:52] <azerty3> i try to remove a package
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i dont see much need for the gui
[22:52] <hiexpo> i know
[22:53] <cvd> het there,  key to lock screen?
[22:53] <azerty3> but the old configuration come with the new installation
[22:53] <hiexpo> ok gonna read it thanks and i will see ya in a bit
[22:53] <cinali> how can I write commands unter root in a terminal window
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  thers also the kde front end.. and proberly other front ends
[22:53] <azerty3> what to do to remove completly the package + configuraion ?
[22:53] <meowbuntu> ok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | cinali
[22:53] <hiexpo> i dont like kde
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  so what.. you can still use kde/qt specic apps..
[22:54] <meowbuntu> !aptitude
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> I always install k3b :)
[22:54] <cvd> ctrl+alt+l, thanks
[22:54] <cvd> anyway
[22:54] <cinali> thanks alot guys!
[22:54] <hiexpo> true but they seem to always hang
[22:54] <pha> hey guys - I am using ubuntu.... using Deluge torrent client.... I have a 1Gbps connection.... but Deluge won't let me change the default upload any higher than 9000kbps - any reason why?
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  file bug reports i guess.. I never have the issue
[22:54] <hiexpo> kool
[22:54] <Neo|Desktop> hey everyone, where can i find the pxe images for 9.10?
[22:54] <pha> I am just seeing freeware and legit things like ubuntu/slackware/gentoo/debian/bsd - that sort of thing.
[22:55] <pirre> Feisty to Gutsy; Upgrade doesn't go through it's telling me it doesn't find the files even though I downloaded the Gutsy upgrade files already..
[22:55] <pha> Any help I would really appreciate it.
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  gee clamtk seems about as basic a gui as one can get. :)
[22:55] <rzanebr10> oi
[22:55] <Benwa> Hi, i cannot fix my grub2 after a windows install on the same harddrive. Windows is on /dev/sda1 and ubuntu on /dev/sda2. When i turn on my computer i just have a prompt like that : grub> . Pretty bad no?
[22:55] <hiexpo> yep
[22:55] <Rabbitbunny> pha: Try to type on a single line, this channel is pretty busy.
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  so whats the problem with installing it? download the deb install...
[22:56] <pha> Rabbitbunny, sorry mate.
[22:56] <hiexpo> i installed deb last time and it worked fine but itsat in my obsolete delete folder
[22:56] <VCoolio> pirre: not supported anymore; why don't you do a fresh install with 8.04 (LTS) or more recent?
[22:56] <Rabbitbunny> pha: no problem, just saying, it will help you.
[22:56] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty; i've already disabled ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have helped.  anyone have any ideas?
[22:56] <pha> No worries mate, I appreciate the input - thanks.
[22:57] <meowbuntu> ok if i have a new install of ubuntu can i install kubuntu desktop with it(not just kde), and also ubuntu studio desktop,
[22:57] <hiexpo> it seems like that aslways happens when i install deb packs for some reason
[22:57] <pha> hey guys - I am using ubuntu.... using Deluge torrent client.... I have a 1Gbps connection.... but Deluge won't let me change the default upload any higher than 9000kbps....... I am just seeing freeware and legit things like ubuntu/slackware/gentoo/debian/bsd - that sort of thing .... anyone have any ideas?
[22:57] <pha> :)
[22:57] <Barbaren> hello
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i just installed the latest clamtk from the homepage of clamtk it seems to work here
[22:57] <ubuntu> no it must be a kubuntu live cd to do that
[22:57] <pirre> VCoolio: need not to lose the data on the computer... :P and I'm now trying to get this upgraded just so that I'd be able to get it even a little closer to the still supported versions
[22:57] <Barbaren> I have a quick question, if i want to set a shell variable so that it's the same everytime i start linux, how can i do that?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  you can install the other whatever-desktop packages and select what windowmanger/desktop to use from the GDM login
[22:58] <hiexpo> ya thats the one i have /// did you just run the deb installer
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  it can be a little annoying - your menus will show ALL items from all of them. You might not want your kde apps shown ojn gnome and so fortjh..
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  downloaded, double clicked..
[22:58] <Out_Cold> can anyone figure out why i can't compile??? http://pastebin.com/d6b7b3b40
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  dclicked on the deb.. it installed.
[22:58] <hiexpo> ya thats how i did it last time
[22:58] <Out_Cold> maybe the doc can help :p
[22:58] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: is there a way around this
[22:59] <Benwa> nobody to help me to fix my grub2?
[22:59] <hiexpo> but it sits in the obsolete folder that way
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  proberly some annoying ways.. but i dont bother.
[22:59] <Slart> Out_Cold: you installed the build-essential package?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  ive never hear  of an obsolete folder..
[22:59] <VCoolio> pirre: there are archive repos for old version; you can put those in your software sources; let me see if I can find the links
[22:59] <Out_Cold> Slart, of course
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  so i dont know what you mean
[22:59] <hiexpo> in synaptic
[22:59] <pirre> VCoolio: I've been following this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty
[22:59] <pirre> VCoolio: and honestly I've spent hours with this already
[23:00] <VCoolio> pirre: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy  let me check your link
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  does it really matter?
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  it works. :)
[23:00] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: it would be easier if i could saves instaslling a new os for everthing. i do wonder y it would display all apps thats strange really.
[23:00] <Slart> Out_Cold: hmm.. what's with that first error?  /bin/sh bad interpreter?
[23:00] <Johnny_425> how do i merge two filesystems
[23:00] <hiexpo> no not really i just get picky and want everything perfect  lol
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  i dont see any obsolete stuff here in synaptic.
[23:00] <joh6nn> Johnny_425: that kind of depends.  what are you trying to do?
[23:00] <hiexpo> it only shows up if theres something in it
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  the menu items for ALL the desktops get generated from various .desktop files..   thats how they work
[23:01] <Out_Cold> Slart, not too sure... but i think that's my issue... i have built before with ./configure and since it wasn't working i tried sh ./configure
[23:01] <azerty3> hi
[23:01] <Johnny_425> joh6nn: i'm trying to create more space
[23:01] <MrUnix> !hi | azerty3
[23:01] <azerty3> i want to reconfigure mysql
[23:01] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: stuff in synaptis may not be teh latest apps its just the tested ones. the apps websites have the latest versions and test releases not synaptic
[23:01] <azerty3> i don't how to do ?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  if they were kept seperate like years ago.. people would get mad that isntalling a gnome app made no icon in their kde menus and visa versa.. so its a no win situation
[23:01] <meowbuntu> Dr_Willis: you should know that though
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  edit all the .desktop files as needed.. good luck.
[23:02] <KenBW2> how do i rsync the *contents* of a folder ~/Synergy to a folder ~/Synergy2
[23:02] <Slart> Out_Cold: here are some suggestions.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/binsh-bad-interpreter-permission-denied-392740/
[23:02] <joh6nn> Johnny_425: yeah, but by doing what?  what two filesystems are you trying to merge?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  if theres a more elegant solution ive never seen it.
[23:02] <jolaren> Could anyone explain for me the useage of sabnzbd?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> meowbuntu:  also if you set stuff to autostart in gnome. it MIGHT also autostart in kde.. thats either good of bad.. depening on your needs
[23:02] <meowbuntu> yea it would take a while to edit each menu seperatly. i just want an easy way to install ubuntu studio apps mainly not to fussed with kubuntu
[23:03] <azerty3> hello
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu studio last i chekced is jsut a set of apps that are in the normal repos.. and a fancier themes. actually they MIGHT use a realtime kernel.. im not sure
[23:03] <azerty3> is there anyone know how to reconfigure mysql ?
[23:03] <Slart> Out_Cold: hmm.. where are these files located? on an ext2/3/4 disk? or somewhere else? ntfs perhaps?
[23:04] <jellow> I get only back ground noise , even when i reboot i still hear it , the only way to i can stop is buy force unloading alsa , Can some one help me please
[23:04] <Pici> azerty3: What do you mean? What are you trying to do?
[23:05] <Out_Cold> Slart, inside a lvm on ext4 located across ssh
[23:05] <azerty3> i try to install a package which require mysql i made mistake during the installation phase
[23:05] <azerty3> now i need to unistall it
[23:05] <azerty3> and to reconfigure
[23:06] <Out_Cold> Slart, i'm going to try relocating the files to a /tmp location and try from there
[23:06] <Pici> azerty3: What version of mysql did you install?
[23:07] <ubuntu> put in a boot disk and chose the partion you want to get rid of
[23:07] <Slart> Out_Cold: it was just something I found when googling around for that error message.. not sure if it's the same issue you're having
[23:08] <h2g2bob> azerty3: you could run synaptic, right click on the mysql packages and select reinstall?
[23:08] <Pici> azerty3: You need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-VERSION     where VERSION is the version number of mysql that you have installed.
[23:08] <Out_Cold> Slart, not sure why i can't build.. never had this issue before until i was trying to install the /etc/init.d/nfs-common
[23:09] <Out_Cold> !info nfs-utils
[23:09] <Out_Cold> bite me bot
[23:09] <MrUnix> Ubottu is a bot. Please don't think he's intelligent. =P
[23:10] <Out_Cold> MrUnix, i was assuming quite the opposite ;)
[23:10] <jellow> I get only back ground noise , even when i reboot i still hear it , the only way to i can stop is buy force unloading alsa , Can some one help me please
[23:10] <azerty3> version 5.1.37
[23:11] <DarkDigitalDream> jellow, I live in a small country home several months of the year and experience the same thing. In my case it is because the house is not properly grounded
[23:11] <MrUnix> azerty3, do like they said and run synaptic, find mysql and right-click to choose 'reinstall". Then apply the changes.
[23:11] <kickar> hey guys what do i need to listen to online radio ?
[23:11] <kickar> i have a pls file but cant open it
[23:11] <MrUnix> kickar, speakers
[23:11] <DarkDigitalDream> kickar, speakers, for a start ;)
[23:11] <DarkDigitalDream> ah, beat to the punch
[23:11] <azerty3> that what i have to done
[23:12]  * MrUnix high-fives DarkDigitalDream 
[23:12] <Out_Cold> kickar, rhythmbox works nice
[23:12] <kickar> Out_Cold,  any plugins ?
[23:12] <jellow> DarkDigitalDream: but if i force-unload alsa it stops
[23:12] <kickar> i cant listen with it
[23:12] <Out_Cold> kickar, depends on the stream i suppose, but not usually
[23:12] <azerty3> using synaptic it don't ask me to reconfigure the file
[23:12] <h2g2bob> kickar: pls is a text file with a list of mp3s. Movie player is a good a choice imho
[23:13] <Out_Cold> h2g2bob, pls can be a radio http link as well
[23:13] <kickar> h2g2bob,  i am talking about this streaming radios ..
[23:13] <Out_Cold> h2g2bob, it's a generic playlist
[23:13] <DarkDigitalDream> jellow, hmm... I dont know enough about alsa to say. I think you are right though. A ground issue would not care if alsa is using your sound card or not
[23:13] <ubuntu> do you use last fm
[23:14] <Out_Cold> bbs need to move the truck
[23:14] <bikcmp> Hello all; I'm trying to install ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to my netbook
[23:14] <bikcmp> and it installs
[23:14] <BlueSherpa> is it possible to use a raid system while it's Migrating?
[23:14] <bikcmp> with wubi btw
[23:14] <bikcmp> and then when I reboot it gets a grub:sh shell
[23:14] <Out_Cold> !enter > bikcmp
[23:14] <ubuntu> use flash usb divice
[23:14] <bikcmp> Out_Cold: sorry about that
[23:15] <Benwa> j'imagine que je ne peux pas réparer mon grub2 avec un alternate-cd, si?
[23:15] <jellow> DarkDigitalDream: this has happened on Windows aswell , My comuter is a cruel mistress
[23:15] <Benwa> oups wrong window, sorry
[23:15] <bikcmp> ubuntu: Nope, can't do that, i have windows on it
[23:15] <jazz>  join the #ubuntu-classroom
[23:15] <RandomUsr> hello
[23:16] <DarkDigitalDream> jellow, if it happens in windows as well, it is not an alsa issue and is likely a hardware issue. Grounding MIGHT be the cause. Poor sound card quality could do it as well. I'm a software oriented person, and this falls outside my expertise.
[23:16] <jophish> Would it be possible to configure sshd to allow anyone to login from the local lan (192.168.0.xxx) but to only allow one user to login from the internet?
[23:16] <DarkDigitalDream> jellow, have you tried different speakers?
[23:17] <bikcmp> i've read this is a bug in grub2; tried all the fixes
[23:17] <bikcmp> no luck
[23:18] <jazz> #ubuntu-classroom
[23:19] <jellow> DarkDigitalDream: I only use ear phones , i have tried several all the same.
[23:19] <jophish> Would it be sufficient to "AllowUsers sleeper *.*.*.* \ AllowUsers * 192.168.0.*"
[23:19] <jophish> so anyone can login from the lan, but only sleeper can login from anywhere
[23:20] <RandomUsr> trying to configure samba, but I can't seem to get the authentication right. How can I ensure that the settings are appropriate without using testparm?
[23:20] <glick> excuse me how do ai take a screenshot?
[23:21] <glick> of a specific window?
[23:21] <MrUnix> glick, Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot
[23:22] <danyR> glick: just select that window and press Alt + Prt Sc
[23:22] <bikcmp> Is the grub:sh shell a bug?
[23:22] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[23:23] <glick> MrUnix, where does it place the image?
[23:23] <bikcmp> Ill try #ubuntu-boot
[23:23] <MrUnix> glick, I'm not sure off the top of my head. Pictures? I can check.
[23:23] <snoopy> How can I check how much ram my pc has?
[23:23] <imp|home> Image taken is left in the clipboard. Paste it into GIMP or other photo editor.
[23:23] <jellow> DarkDigitalDream: Il try a live cd before i though it out the window
[23:23] <MrUnix> glick, Desktop or Pictures.
[23:23] <h2g2bob> jophish: this man page says it should be a space seperated list of user or user@host items - http://man-wiki.net/index.php/5:sshd_config
[23:24] <bikcmp> snoopy: I would get a sysinfo app
[23:24] <glick> nope
[23:24] <glick> none of those
[23:24] <ganymede> joh6nn, do you have a broadcom chipset? if so, try pinging your access point. if your pings are above 100 or 200 ms, then maybe it's because network-manager scans for APs every few seconds. in that case, try switching to wicd
[23:24] <jophish> oh sure, h2g2bob but apart from the syntax, that setup should do what I want?
[23:24] <danyR> snoopy: sistem > administration > system monitor
[23:24] <IceDane> So.. In the hypothetical situation where one's girlfriend accidentally turns off the socket to which your ubuntu server is connected as it's dist-upgrading, what can I expect to happen?
[23:24] <joh6nn> ganymede: no, atheros
[23:24] <ganymede> joh6nn, oh, beats me... =/
[23:25] <imp|home> re: prtsrc Ok I just tried it, a menu should popup and ask you where you want to save it.
[23:25] <DarkDigitalDream> jellow, with some quick online searching, grounding seems to be the most likely cause. this might seem like an odd way to troubleshoot, but does touching the metal on your computer case and/or the headphone jack solve the problem? You can basically use your body to ground home electronics this way.
[23:25] <jophish> IceDane, you leave your girlfriend?
[23:25] <joh6nn> IceDane: i'd say yank the drive, back it up, and then try to install from cd
[23:26] <danyR> IceDane: it depends. was it in the download part or in the installation?
[23:26] <maco> IceDane: you can try to finish the install "sudp dpkg --configure -a"
[23:26] <IceDane> danyR: Installation, I believe
[23:26] <h2g2bob> jophish: I think that's right. You shouldn't need the *.*.*.* - just sleeper will do.
[23:26] <IceDane> "Unpacking replacement..." etc
[23:26] <jophish> IceDane, although I have lots power when dist-upgrading, booted back up and all was fine and I managed to upgrade properly
[23:26] <jophish> ok, thanks h2g2bob
[23:26] <IceDane> Yeah, it wouldn't be a problem if I could just SSH back in
[23:26] <IceDane> heh =)
[23:27] <danyR> IceDane: ups...
[23:27] <IceDane> I don't even have a monitor - this is a laptop
[23:27] <neil_d> does ubuntu have a small install iso like debians net install system?
[23:27] <imp|home> IceDane: install VirtualBox and try it, you can yank the virtual cable anytime you want.
[23:27] <MrUnix> IceDane, Laptops don't have monitors?
[23:27] <IceDane> MrUnix: They do, but they don't have input ports for video, at least most don't
[23:27] <jophish> MrUnix, might be hard to use a laptop as a display device
[23:28] <MrUnix> IceDane, I gotcha.
[23:28] <iAmerikan> Can anyone help me connect to my phone via an rfcomm binded serial port on BitPim?
[23:28] <IceDane> When I just started the dist upgrade, an emergency ssh daemon was started in case ssh would go wrong(the default one), it was 9000, I think, but it might have been 9000 and something.. Anyone happen to know this?
[23:28] <Slart> !minimal | neil_d
[23:28] <neil_d> Slart: just what I was looking for.. thanks
[23:29] <IceDane> brb, leaving gf.
[23:29] <iAmerikan> Can anyone help me connect to my phone via an rfcomm binded serial port on BitPim? followed http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2007/12/using-a-bluetooth-phone-with-linux.ars
[23:30] <jibberia> evenin' - gparted question. booted off cd. made a bunch of (significant) changes, hit "apply" and the gparted window disappeared -- and the cd-rom drive is making repetitive thrashy sounds (as in, it sounds like it's having trouble reading)
[23:30] <iAmerikan> since I can't install gnome-vfx-obexftp
[23:30] <jibberia> think it b0rked my drive already?
[23:30] <aeromax> Right. So I'm trying to run ubuntu without ruining my shit.
[23:30] <aeromax> Not working.
[23:30] <jibberia> i can't imagine why it would need to read from the CD-ROM once it's doing its thing...?
[23:30] <aeromax> Any suggestions?
[23:30] <joh6nn> aeromax: ?
[23:30] <aeromax> I've installed it on a partition on my laptop
[23:30] <aeromax> It checks installation
[23:30] <jibberia> aeromax: how bad?
[23:30] <MrUnix> aeromax, Please watch your language, this is a family chat.
[23:31] <h2g2bob> jibberia: see if it's still running with system monitor?
[23:31] <aeromax> Oh, right. It hasn't actually borned me
[23:31] <aeromax> *borked
[23:31] <aeromax> "The selected partition already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk"
[23:31] <jibberia> h2g2bob: i'm running the gparted live cd
[23:31] <jibberia> i know this is a bit out of ubuntu scope
[23:31] <jibberia> but the OS in question is ubuntu
[23:32] <aeromax> I've only booted to ubuntu like once before because I'm constantly afraid I'll do something wrong and destroy my windows partition
[23:32] <og01> ok gnu screen is giving me trouble, I've changed the profile to plain but its still using the bottom two lines for hardstatus, how can i get rid of the crappy bottom two lines when using screen in ubuntu (prefably without restarting my session)
[23:32] <aeromax> And I don't have the installation CD with me
[23:32] <aeromax> :-(
[23:32] <MrUnix> aeromax, Your windows and Ubuntu partitions are seperated. You won't hurt your windows part unless your really asinine with it.
[23:32] <duckx0r> I have a problem with local mailing. When I send a mail to a local user, it gets delivered to my local maildir store and when I connect via IMAP to my localhost I can retrieve the mail, but when I try viewing it by typing mail it says "no mail for {user}"
[23:32] <jibberia> h2g2bob: there are icons for terminal, info, and some other junk, but nothing seems to work.
[23:32] <aeromax> All right. Well, now that that's set, I still can't run anything
[23:32] <aeromax> I booted into ubuntu like 5mins ago and it's refusing to finish loading
[23:33] <jibberia> i'm just wondering if pressing "apply" in gparted instantly modifies the table, and then goes on to do its data magic
[23:33] <aeromax> right now I've got the sunbeam background and a dialog box telling me
[23:33] <aeromax> "The selected partition already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk"
[23:33] <Kubit> this is just plain silly... :p it's not recognizing the password I selected for my nick..
[23:33] <Kubit> oh wrong channel sorry
[23:33] <aeromax> "Please uninstall these before trying again"
[23:34] <aeromax> so do I go into /ubuntu/disks and delete root.disk and reload everything from the CD or is there something I can do from the boot menu
[23:34] <aeromax> partition 1 of /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda
[23:34] <aeromax> And then "no root file system is defined"
[23:34] <jibberia> h2g2bob: i know this is a tough question.... aaaany advice is appreciated
[23:34] <aeromax> What does this even mean
[23:35] <jibberia> it feels like it's hung trying to read from the cd, but i'm scared to death to reboot
[23:36] <h2g2bob> jibberia: it's a bit outside my comfort zone too - any way to get into some sort of shell?
[23:36] <Trek> aeromax: you can just go into the LiveCD and reinstall your Ubuntu OS and nuke the old stuff, right?
[23:36] <MrUnix> jibberia, What's the issue?
[23:36] <jibberia> i'll paste, hang on
[23:36] <aeromax> Nuke the old ubuntu stuff? Sure.
[23:36] <jibberia> (broken left wrist)
[23:36] <aeromax> But what did I screw up the first time?
[23:36] <jibberia> gparted question. booted off cd. made a bunch of (significant) changes, hit "apply" and the gparted window disappeared -- and the cd-rom drive is making repetitive thrashy sounds (as in, it sounds like it's having trouble reading)
[23:37] <aeromax> I installed it into a different partition and only booted into ubuntu once
[23:37] <sunrunner20> so whats teh difference between 'desktop' and 'alternate'?
[23:37] <erUSUL> !alternate | sunrunner20
[23:37] <Trek> aeromax: not sure, maybe the install CD is just borked.  seen it a few times
[23:37] <aeromax> (I don't know if it's a different partition, I'm pretty sure but I did it a couple months ago and can't really remember, but I can boot into windows or ubuntu)
[23:37] <sunrunner20> k, thx
[23:37] <h2g2bob> jibberia: You could check the hard disk activity light as well - silly suggestion but worth looking
[23:37] <aeromax> The first time I ran it everything worked fine
[23:37] <sunrunner20> coulden't find it searching
[23:38] <jibberia> h2g2bob: good suggestion. been looking at it
[23:38] <aeromax> then the next time it gave me this spiel about blah blah clearing something and I was under the impression it was screwing with Windows files and then I turned it off because i was scared ;_;
[23:38] <jibberia> it repeatedly makes one blink each time the cd drive makes a bad sound
[23:38] <Trek> THAT'S why aeromax
[23:38] <Trek> i think...
[23:38] <jibberia> like a "laser bounce all the way from once side to the other" sound
[23:38] <jibberia> wha-chunk!
[23:38] <aeromax> But why can't I just have it resume where it left off?
[23:39] <Trek> i'm not sure aeromax.  probably someone else would know though
[23:39] <h2g2bob> jibberia: i guess probably not doing anything - if it's moving data (resizing partitions, etc) it would probably be lit up quite a lot
[23:39] <aeromax> Anyone else?
[23:39] <jibberia> why on earth would it need to read from the cd!? this machine only has ~450mb ram (512 - graphics)... maybe that's why?
[23:39] <jibberia> i agree
[23:39] <thrhrh> hey
[23:39] <rastaman_> join #ubuntu-charlar
[23:40] <thrhrh> anyone ever install jondo ?
[23:40] <jibberia> but i wonder if the "apply" button modifies the partition table, and then goes on to do the data magic.
[23:40] <jibberia> so if i restart now, i'm b0rked.
[23:40] <thrhrh> i'm trying to install jondo
[23:41] <jibberia> googling seems to reveal that gparted takes about an hour for a 40gb volume, and this one is ~25-30, so maybe i'll wait it out for a while longer...
[23:41] <thrhrh> but for some reason i can't get the rep to work
[23:41] <pasjr> dose any one use dose any one use vm.swappiness
[23:41] <jibberia> go smoke cigarettes and grumble and fidget...?
[23:41] <jibberia> dose any one use copy paste?
[23:41] <jibberia> hehe
[23:41] <jibberia> ;)
[23:42] <jibberia> i don't mess w/ swappiness, but i'd like to someda
[23:42] <jibberia> +y
[23:42] <h2g2bob> jibberia: if theres any way to get to a shell you should be able to see if it's still running
[23:43] <pasjr> I am trying to find out a good number to use between 0-100
[23:43] <jibberia> there's a shell icon, but i can't get it to start up
[23:43] <jibberia> maybe if i click really often.... i think the UI is blocking between disk reads or something
[23:43] <thrhrh> so no one knows about jondo ?
[23:43] <jibberia> mm, nah, the mouse works well
[23:43] <jibberia> i know 0 about jondo, sry
[23:44] <thrhrh> its cool
[23:44] <h2g2bob> jibberia: does it have ctrl+alt+f_something?
[23:44]  * jibberia tries
[23:44] <jibberia> ooooooooooooo
[23:44] <benji_> Is there a way to get the default main.cf postfix conf file bundled with the distrib?
[23:44] <thrhrh> do you know how to add an pgp key
[23:44] <thrhrh> http://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo/download/linux
[23:44] <erUSUL> !find main.cf
[23:45] <duckx0r> how can I make it so that the "mail" command uses my maildir store in ~/Maildir ?
[23:45] <jolaren> Could someone please tell me the point in having Sabnzbd? what does it doo
[23:45] <jibberia> h2g2bob: YES thank you
[23:45] <jibberia> ATAPI error
[23:45] <jibberia> cd rom is fukt
[23:45] <aeromax> Hey, guys
[23:45] <h2g2bob> jibberia:  ps -ef | less  will list processes
[23:45] <aeromax> Wild question here
[23:45] <oneinch> Hi. I am fairly new to ubuntu and I have recently installed icecast2. I cannot get into the /etc/icecast2 directory. is there a proper, ubuntu way to get in the directory?
[23:45] <aeromax> What are ACPI workarounds
[23:45] <jibberia> yeah shell expert here
[23:45] <jibberia> but i never use GUIs
[23:45] <aeromax> and what happens if I boot into them?
[23:45] <jibberia> *rarely
[23:45] <aeromax> from the boot menu
[23:45] <h2g2bob> jibberia: cool
 how can I see it?
[23:45] <owner> hello. I have a problem. Every time I log in to my computer I have to manually tell the screen resolution to go to 1024x768. It goes to 600x800 by default.
[23:46] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[23:46] <owner> At the GDM it is 1024x768
[23:46] <erUSUL> benji_: acording to apt-file all that packages have a file named like that including postfix
[23:46] <owner> I'm using NVIDIA 6100 onboard
[23:46] <brophat> i have the 9.04 UNR img file, so how do I make the USB disk from it?
[23:46] <erUSUL> benji_: dpgk -L postfix | grep main.cfg
 is there a way to see it without install it?
[23:46] <owner> I edited my xorg.conf as root but that didn't work.
[23:46] <benji_> I mean the content of this file
[23:47] <h2g2bob> jibberia: gparted starts up subprocesses with the command line resizing tools, etc. so don't just look for gparted :)
[23:47] <erUSUL> benji_: maybe in packages.ubuntu.com dunno
[23:47] <owner> I deleted the 800x600 setting in Xorg.conf but that didn't work.
[23:47] <erUSUL> benji_: or ask someone to paste it for you
[23:47] <brophat> I am using mac
[23:47] <owner> the monitor is a SyncMaster 930b
[23:47] <erUSUL> benji_: i do not have postfix so i can not
[23:47] <jibberia> i'm seeing repeated CD-ROM read errors
[23:47] <thrhrh> i'm going so crazy i'm going to eat my own caca
[23:47] <jibberia> so hopefully, dear god, the "apply" button didn't actually work yet
[23:47] <owner> Is anyone paying attention to what I'm saying?
[23:48] <brophat> the website says mac can't use the current 9.10 iso, so use the 9.04 img file and do it the old way, but they never said what the old way was bwahahahha
[23:48] <jibberia> owner: i wasn't
[23:48]  * jibberia reads
[23:48] <owner> jibberia thanks.
[23:48] <jibberia> owner: sorry, no advice :(
[23:48] <erUSUL> owner: imposible if it is spread in over 5 lines in between 20 others. keep your question in one line with as much detail as you can
[23:48] <thrhrh> i'm going so crazy i'm going to eat my own caca
[23:48] <erUSUL> !enter
[23:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> QUESTION - where can I found Karmic for PowerPC?
[23:49] <owner> erUSUL ubottu sorry. Just thought of different things at different times.
[23:49] <erUSUL> !ppc
[23:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> erUSUL, !thankyou
[23:50] <jazz> #ubuntu-classroom
[23:50] <outer_space> how do you find out what kind of filesystem is on an external hdd, its not in 'properties'
[23:50] <thrhrh> hey so i'm trying to add this repository and it tells me to that the repository is signed with the OpenPGP key
[23:50] <thrhrh> it gives me a pgp key
[23:51] <erUSUL> outer_space: if it is mounted just check « cat /proc/mounts »
[23:51] <thrhrh> how can i add it
[23:51] <SmartSsa> outer_space, you can open a terminal and just type 'mount' - it will tell you all the mounted disks as well as their type.
[23:51] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | thrhrh
[23:51] <outer_space> smartssa ty
[23:51] <blekos> hello, anyone knows any alternative to cryptload for linux?
[23:51] <erUSUL> blekos: what does cryptload do?
[23:52] <owner> If you guys can't answer my previous question then can you tell me how to tell my computer exactly what monitor I have?
[23:52] <jazz>  #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[23:52] <outer_space> so what does type fuseblk mean for a hd format?
[23:52] <erUSUL> jazz: /j #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[23:52] <duckx0r> how can I make it so that the "mailx" command looks for mail in my maildir store in ~/Maildir instead of /var/mail/$USER ?
[23:52] <jazz> thank you  haha
[23:52] <erUSUL> outer_space: paste the full line
[23:52] <blekos> it is  a downloader, that you can insert your e.g rapidhsare credentials and automatically download the links from rapidshare
[23:52] <outer_space> /dev/sdb1 /media/42DC58ECDC58DBAB fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[23:53] <erUSUL> blekos: try tucan
[23:53] <outer_space> i put it into a macbook and it cant write to it! how useless is a hdd that macbooks cant write to!
[23:53] <erUSUL> outer_space: should be ntfs via fuse and ntfs-3g
[23:53] <outer_space> need to find out what format its in
[23:53] <blekos> hm i will give it a try
[23:53] <outer_space> oh ya thats what fuse means
[23:53] <outer_space> guess i have to install it on the macbook too
[23:53] <thrhrh> thanks but how do i add a .asc file as a key
[23:53] <IceDane> I think my box is completely and utterly thunder.. smitten.
[23:54] <thrhrh> i tried running synaptic
[23:54] <thrhrh> and adding it manually
[23:54] <erUSUL> thrhrh: probaly → sudo apt-key add file.asc
[23:54] <thrhrh> but it didn't help
[23:54] <thrhrh> let me try
[23:54] <thrhrh> thanks
[23:55] <thrhrh> where should i download the file too
[23:55] <thrhrh> to run that command
[23:55] <morph_> someone have problem with flashplayer plugib?
[23:56] <thrhrh> i have the file currently in downloads
[23:56] <thrhrh> should i move it else where
[23:57] <puszy> is there possibility to install netbook's windows drivers on ubuntu? i mean power system
[23:57] <erUSUL> puszy: no windows drivers do not work in linux
[23:58] <erUSUL> puszy: only exception netrwork drivers via ndiswrapper but they are buggy
[23:58] <erUSUL> allways better to get a native driver
[23:58] <puszy> so i have to find the sam thing as linux packeges?
[23:59] <erUSUL> puszy: probably; what are you trying to do ?
[23:59] <thrhrh> got it
[23:59] <thrhrh> thanks so much
[23:59] <thrhrh> i don't have to eat my caca now !!!
[23:59] <thrhrh> =)
[23:59] <erUSUL> !language
[23:59] <erUSUL> !enter