/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/23/#xubuntu.txt

crowdsmy 'workspaces' sometimes get renamed to their defaults after reboot, any suggestions?00:00
etron_hey i  got some sound problems04:29
etron_any1 know anything?04:29
nigel_nbetron_, what kind of prolems?04:29
nigel_nb!ask04:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:29
etron_ok so i cant get any sound from my computer04:30
etron_i have no idea why04:30
nigel_nbcan you first check if the volume is turned all the way up, installs sometimes have that problem04:30
etron_tried that04:31
nigel_nbokay, so you're running xubuntu 9.10?04:31
etron_yeah04:31
etron_hey im really sry but i gotta go i'll prolly b on later04:32
DJCharlieEvening all. Quick question. I have XFCE running, and have power management set to NEVER turn off the screen. BUT, after 10 minutes of inactivity, it turns off anyway. How can I stop this?05:01
nigel_nbDJCharlie, is that your screen turning off or your monitor displaying blank screensaver?05:05
DJCharlienigel_nb: Screensaver isn't enabled, and the monitor says "No Signal" until I hit a key or move the mouse.05:05
nigel_nboh, DJCharlie, sorry, then its beyond me :(05:07
DJCharlieThanks anyway.05:08
etron_ok so i cant get any sound on my computer05:12
alokitojoin #kubuntu05:46
alokitolol, sorry05:46
Balsaqsorry for what?05:53
brontosaurusrexhello, is there an easy way to browse win network in xubuntu? via thunar maybe?13:12
TheSheep!smb13:21
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.13:21
TheSheephmm...13:21
TheSheep!smbfs13:21
TheSheep!fusesmb13:22
ubottufusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network.  Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb13:22
TheSheepbrontosaurusrex: ^ that last one13:22
brontosaurusrexthanks13:22
ScoobyDooI Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I Do that as well as have the new drive plugged in?14:43
ScoobyDooCome on you know you wanna help me, Don't be shy :-)14:44
charlie-tcaScoobyDoo: have patience, please.14:44
charlie-tcaDid you add the new drive after the existing drive in the controllers?14:45
charlie-tcaOn my SATA drives, I can go into BIOS and tell it the order of the drives.14:45
ScoobyDooI installed xubuntu on the drive that was allready in it, Then I added the second and now I get the grub error 1514:46
ScoobyDooI did try telling it to boot from both the first and second drive but I got a diffrent error on one of those14:46
ScoobyDooShould have put both drives in and then install xubuntu, I'm such an idiot :-(14:47
charlie-tcaSo your second drive is trying to be the master drive, instead of the drive you had first. Tell it boot from the drive you installed on. The second drive will need to be mounted and formatted after the system starts up14:47
charlie-tcaYou won't be able to see the new drive at all until after you get to the desktop and then tell it to mount it.14:48
ScoobyDooI luckly have the computer right next to this one I'm talking to you on, Hold On I'll boot it up and go into BIOS14:48
ScoobyDooFirst boot device: Atapi cdrom: second: 1st IDE-HDD: Third: 2nd IDE-HDD14:49
ScoobyDooShall I try swapping the two IDE-HDD's?14:50
charlie-tcaAre they on an IDE controller inside the box?14:52
charlie-tcaOh, nm. Yes, try swapping the two IDE-HDD's there.14:53
charlie-tcaWhen you added the new drive, did you set the jumper on the back for a slave drive or for cable-select?14:54
ScoobyDooFirst is the cdrom, Then it's 1st IDE-HDD, And finally It's 2nd IDE-HDD14:55
charlie-tcaYou placed the drive in the box, right?14:55
ScoobyDooOf course14:55
ScoobyDooComputers froze14:55
charlie-tcaDid you set the drive jumpers for master and slave on the back of the drives?14:56
ScoobyDooSorry don't know anything about that :-(14:56
charlie-tcaIf the jumpers are not set correctly, the system is trying to decide which drive to use, but can't identify either one. You need to look in the drive paperwork for information on setting the jumpers.14:57
charlie-tcaAre these using the red cable about 1/2 inch wide or a flat wide cable about 2 inches wide?14:58
ScoobyDooPaperwork? Don't think we got any of that14:58
ScoobyDooHold on14:58
ScoobyDootheir's a cable with a white head, That has a yellow,black and red cables,14:58
charlie-tcaWhat about the other cable you connected?14:59
ScoobyDooI don't quite know how to describe that one14:59
charlie-tcaIs it small, red?14:59
ScoobyDooWell actully It's not a cable15:00
charlie-tcawhat kind of system?15:00
charlie-tcadesktop or laptop?15:00
ScoobyDooI think it's called a 'host interface'15:01
charlie-tcadesktop or laptop?15:01
ScoobyDooHold On I have a better idea, I'll take a photo15:01
ScoobyDooDesktop15:01
ScoobyDooGateway15:01
ScoobyDoobrb15:02
charlie-tcathe cable with the white head, and separate wires is the power. The other cable is the IDE cable. It should be grey15:02
ScoobyDooYeah that sorta fits the description15:03
ScoobyDooSo their's the cable with the white head and the IDE cable in both Hard drives15:03
ScoobyDooNo other;s15:03
ScoobyDooIsn't their supposed to be a little black one?15:04
charlie-tcayes15:04
charlie-tcaNow you have to take the new drive out, look at the back, and you will see an area of double pins on it. One section will have between 4 and 6 pins in two rows.15:05
charlie-tcaOn the drive, it should tell you where to put a jumper for Master, Slave, or CS(Cable Select)15:06
charlie-tcaPut that jumper in position S or Slave15:06
ScoobyDooOk hold on, I'll get my trusty screwdriver set15:06
ScoobyDooOK, I've had to take all the cables out of both the drives15:09
charlie-tcanow look on the drive for where to put the jumper. If the old drive had it on CS, put the new drives jumper on CS.15:11
charlie-tcaIf the old drive has it on M or Master, put the new drive jumper on S or Slave15:12
ScoobyDooHold on15:13
ScoobyDoohttp://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4535/dscf2043.jpg15:15
ScoobyDooSorry, I'm just too thick lol15:15
brontosaurusrexwhats the deault text editor in xfce?15:17
ScoobyDooOK the new drive is in the slave bit15:19
ScoobyDooLets boot Up15:19
ScoobyDooWHOoooo! It it's booting up with Xubuntu15:21
ScoobyDoowow that was actully rather simple15:21
ScoobyDooscoobydoo15:22
ScoobyDooscrappydoo15:22
ScoobyDooOp's wrong keyboard15:22
ScoobyDooLets see if it sees my new hd15:23
ScoobyDoocharlie-tca! Bad new's I can't see the new drive in :/media/15:25
charlie-tcaYes, but you need to get a book and learn about doing all that stuff15:25
charlie-tcaIt won't show up on its own. You have to tell Xubuntu that the drive exists now. Just a minute15:25
ScoobyDooI'm only going to be using the new computer for burning discs15:26
ScoobyDooSo long as it can see the new drive and has a nice quick cdrom, Everythings brillant15:26
charlie-tcatry reading this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive15:28
ScoobyDooI'm verbally telling it to find my new drive but It's not moving15:28
charlie-tcaIt should help you get to where you can find it15:28
charlie-tcaI have told several drives where to go, unfortunately, some heard me! I lost three hard drives this month15:29
ScoobyDoocharlie-tca, Not out of the woods yet, It says I have to run 'sudo fdkisk /dev/sdb/' But it says unable to open /dev/sdb/15:37
ScoobyDooI'm using the correct logical name15:37
ScoobyDooOps I put /dev/sdb/ Not /dev/sdb15:37
ScoobyDooI'm such an idiot15:38
knomethat shouldn't make any difference15:38
charlie-tcamatters on a new drive15:39
knomeit does?15:39
charlie-tcaAFAIR15:40
ScoobyDooI'm using partion nu,ber two, But their's 'No free sectors avalible'15:40
ScoobyDoonumber one is apparently already defined15:40
charlie-tcaWhat is the exact command you typed?15:40
ScoobyDooIn the guide it says to type sudo fdisk /dev/sdb   then n then p and then the number one15:41
charlie-tcaWhat is the exact command you typed?15:41
ScoobyDooI just said15:41
ScoobyDooI'll try number three15:42
charlie-tcaYou hit enter after each one?15:42
charlie-tcayou have to find why it is not working. Don't keep trying numbers, it might mess something up...15:43
charlie-tcaWhy aren't you using gparted? you could see if there are any partitions on the drive, then.15:45
ScoobyDooSorry brb I have to unpack the shopping15:45
charlie-tcaGood MOrning, knome15:45
knomeevening charlie-tca :)15:45
charlie-tcaI looked in #ubuntu-classroom, seems like the user day sessions started about 12 hours early15:46
knomewhat? "oops"?15:48
charlie-tcaMaybe it is me... the schedule shows it starting at 12:00 UTC, but they are already into the 3rd or 4th session15:50
charlie-tcaAccording to my clock, it is now 3:51 AM UTC15:51
knomeno, it's 3:51PM15:51
charlie-tcawell... My eyes are crossed, then. Must be me!15:52
charlie-tcaMaybe that's why I miss most meetings scheduled for UTC times15:53
knomemaybe. people should use meeting schedulers more15:53
ScoobyDooOk I'm back15:56
ScoobyDooOne coffe, One problem with ubuntu, Sounds like a good night in?15:56
charlie-tcasure15:57
ScoobyDooApart this problem with the new drive, The internet doesn't seem to like working with xubuntu, So I can't installed gparted15:58
ScoobyDooProblem after problem after problem15:58
charlie-tcai see15:58
charlie-tcaTry typing   mount   in the terminal and hit enter. It will tell you which drive is in use now15:59
ScoobyDooclear15:59
ScoobyDooDam wrong keyboard again15:59
ScoobyDooWhat am I looking for? sda?16:00
charlie-tcayes, sda or sdb16:00
ScoobyDooTheir's a /dev/sda1 on /16:00
charlie-tcaokay16:00
ScoobyDooThe new drive's name is just sdb16:01
charlie-tcanow in the terminal, type  mkdir /media/sdb16:01
ScoobyDooAlready made a folder16:01
ScoobyDooHD-20GB16:01
charlie-tcaokay16:01
charlie-tcanow   mount /dev/sdb1 /media/HD-20GB16:02
ScoobyDoodon't ya mean /dev/sdb ?16:02
ScoobyDooOk it's done it16:03
charlie-tcano, I mean sdb116:04
ScoobyDooYay It sees my drive16:04
charlie-tcanow  ls /media/HD-20GB16:04
charlie-tcaThat's a small Ls16:04
ScoobyDooSeems the previous owners left stuff on their drive16:05
ScoobyDooLooks like window, BOOO!16:05
charlie-tcaSo, the drive is already partitioned.16:05
ScoobyDoo*windows16:05
charlie-tcaBut the fdisk commands won't work until you delete the existing partitions.16:06
ScoobyDooOne of the files reads 'Sarah's standing order and direct debits'16:06
ScoobyDooNothern rock 95 pund16:07
ScoobyDoo*pound16:07
charlie-tcaso to clear the drive and use it, after  sudo fdisk /dev/sdb , you have to type d and then follow whatever it tells you. Then start over with partitioning16:07
charlie-tcaAre you using this as one big drive or are you going to have several partitions on it?16:08
ScoobyDooRolf, She has theme hospital the game16:09
ScoobyDooShe also has mozilla firefox, I know firefox saves passwords in the appdata folder16:10
ScoobyDooLets see if she left them for us16:10
knomeScoobyDoo, please, we don't want to hear that. if you must do it, do it by yourself.16:11
knomeScoobyDoo, you wouldn't want someone playing with your personal stuff.16:11
ScoobyDooI wouldent be stupid enough to leave my files for everyone to see16:12
ScoobyDooShe doesn't have a documents and settings folder :-(16:12
knomeit doesn't make any difference. please stop telling us when you play with someone else's files. this is a support channel and that is totally offtopic.16:12
ScoobyDooAh ok, Well anyway thanks for your help charlie-tca!16:12
ScoobyDooXubuntu says thank you16:13
knomeScoobyDoo, have fun with xubuntu :)16:13
charlie-tcayw16:13
ScoobyDooI think i like ubuntu better16:13
ScoobyDooOw well she deleted her documents and settings folder so nothing left to do but remove all the stuff16:15
ScoobyDooWhat's the switch if you want to remove folders using rm?16:19
brontosaurusrexhow silly is to install nautilus in xubuntu?16:19
ScoobyDoo-r right?16:19
charlie-tcaScoobyDoo: rm -r DIRCTORY16:19
charlie-tcasee rm --help16:20
ScoobyDooNo wonder why16:20
ScoobyDooI did rm -r -f *.*16:20
charlie-tcabrontosaurusrex: depends on whether or not you want to use it16:20
charlie-tcayou should be doing something like rm -r /media/20GB-HD/DIRECTORY_NAME16:21
craigbass1976Am I numb, or is there no way to print from gpicview?16:22
=== awway is now known as lukinfore
ScoobyDooIf I did rm -f -r /media/HD-20GB/ Will that remove the HD-20Gb folder as well? or just everything inside of it?16:22
charlie-tcatake a look at man gpicview ?16:22
ScoobyDooOn ubuntu I would run nautilus with sudo, but xubuntu doesn't have nautilus does it?16:25
charlie-tcaI don't know, ScoobyDoo. I think it will remove the HD folder too16:27
charlie-tcaXubuntu does not have nautilus. You can use gksu thunar though16:27
charlie-tcaThunar replaces nautilus in Xubuntu16:27
ScoobyDooI have a problem that charlie-tca can't fix16:33
ScoobyDooThis damn screw won't go back in16:33
charlie-tcaIn where?16:33
charlie-tcaAre you sure you didn't mix the screws up?16:34
ScoobyDooIn the metal cage that holds the hard drives inplace16:34
charlie-tcaIs that the one in the front, holds the drive cage in16:34
charlie-tcaUse a cover screw to replace it16:34
ScoobyDooApart from that Xubuntu has been preparing to delete the files of the drive for about 5 minutes now, I guess the computer's dam slow huh?16:35
charlie-tcaMake sure you have the cage in the right place, sometimes you can get them in off a little16:35
charlie-tcaYou are deleting a lot of files, it takes time16:35
charlie-tcaYou told it to erase that entire drive, and it might be full...16:36
ScoobyDooI fear that since the computer is'nt all that up to date, It's gonna have a hard time burning .iso files to a disc16:36
ScoobyDooThe dvd drive or cd drive or whatever i put in, Has a write speed of x5216:37
charlie-tcaMine burn them fine, it takes a little time, sometimes.16:38
ScoobyDooWhy is it preparing to delete files? what does it have to do besides actully de;ete them?16:39
charlie-tcaIt is the way the delete works, I guess16:40
ScoobyDooManuly deleting the folder is quicker16:41
charlie-tcayup16:42
ScoobyDooOk time to start moving the iso file from the ipod nano to the computer, I bet this is going to take forever16:43
ScoobyDoo2 Hours remaining16:48
ScoobyDooWhat could that be, The usb thing in the computer, Or the fact that the computer has a low amount of CPU?16:49
ScoobyDooI know the ipod nano is fast at transfering stuff too and from it so it isn't that16:50
charlie-tcaIt could be either one, or the amount of memory16:52
ScoobyDooWith the two ram unit's in it has 256 mb of ram, I know that's terrible16:53
ScoobyDooOnly started messing with computers hardware a week ago, just do it as a hobby16:54
charlie-tcaThat's why it is slow16:55
ScoobyDooBecause of the ram?16:56
charlie-tcayes. 256 is a minumum to run most gui s .16:57
ScoobyDooWere getting another desktop computer tomorrow, Not sure what Ram it has, Lets hope its alot, Plus this computer only has two slots16:57
acalbazahow can i tell what version of grub i am running?16:59
ScoobyDooI could do it with this computer, The one we bought, But where's the fun in that?16:59
ScoobyDooOk I'm off, Things i need for the computer are, Ram and possibly another usb thing that goes into the back17:00
ScoobyDooThanks for helping charlie-tca!17:00
charlie-tcaacalbaza: in a terminal, type "apt-cache policy grub-common" and hit enter17:02
brontosaurusrexwhats the prefered way to turn xubuntu into ubuntu?19:36
brontosaurusrexclean one19:36
likemindeadFresh install of Ubuntu.19:39
charlie-tca__clean as in remove all of xubuntu?19:39
likemindead(My preferred way.)19:39
charlie-tca__mine too19:39
charlie-tca__Only way to get a clean install is to start from the cd, isn't it?19:40
simon__hey19:42
simon__i am missing my panels, how do I restore them? i cannot find the answer on the web19:43
charlie-tca__!panels19:45
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/19:45
simon__many thanks :)#19:49
simon__for some reason I couldnt find that anywhere19:50
charlie-tca__Maybe it is kept hidden? I think it is because it under XubuntuPanels19:52
simon__I looked in the documentation and only found customising panels19:56
simon__yeah just updated alsa and have stereo again :)19:57
knomecharlie-tca__, one should find it, it's on the faq on my blog19:58
_blink_Hey I have a quick question about xubuntu20:14
_blink_When I install it will it give me an option to dual boot it with my current os?20:15
Karutyes you will have a boot manager called GRUB20:19
_blink_Excellent thank you. I am new to linux and unbuntu20:20
slow-motionhi21:11
FrozenFire[work]Is there a simple way in which I can "replay" my text clipboard contents as key presses? There's a certain piece of Windows software that I'm running in Wine, which doesn't permit pasting into its text fields.22:55

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!