[01:26] i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty. I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help [01:27] Hi! [01:27] Anybody here using Kubuntu hardy? [01:28] I don't know why, but my outgoing internettraffic has stopped working on Hardy [01:28] I can't send any files or anything at all anymore. [01:28] Does somebody else have this problem? [01:32] serox: you have no outgoing traffic whatsoever? [01:33] There is no option in kdebluetooth for receiving files. How do I receive? [01:33] joh6nn: Nope, doesn't work at all [01:33] joh6nn: My english isn't that good, so I will try to answear as good as possible. [01:34] joh6nn: There is a swedish site where you can test your bandwith. It checks my downstream, but when it want's to check my upstream it justs stands at 0% [01:34] I can't send files with FTP either. [01:34] hrm [01:34] But it works in 9.10 [01:35] joh6nn: And I could send files with 8.10 before, so I don't know what happened. I even re-installed ~8 days ago [01:35] well, you must be able to send at least *some* outgoing traffic, or you'd never be able to send the http requests to get to the website to begin with [01:36] serox: what bandwidth testing site are you using? [01:37] joh6nn: bredbandskollen.se [01:37] joh6nn: Aha okey [01:37] joh6nn: But I can't send files [01:37] to any ftp site, or just the one you normally use? [01:40] joh6nn: Any + the site I just talked about doesn't work [01:41] And I can't use Mediatomb either cause of my problem. [01:41] Mediatomb is a program so I can stream from my laptop to my Playstation 3 [01:41] hrm [01:44] joh6nn: It's really strange I know =) [01:50] serox: what happens if you try to ping a website? [01:53] joh6nn: I can ping www.google.cm [01:53] com [01:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/361668/ [01:55] can you ping the ftp host? [01:56] <[Relic]> easiest way to list all installed package to a text file is...? dpkg -l?? [01:57] [Relic]: dpkg --get-selections > text_file [01:57] joh6nn: I will try [01:58] <[Relic]> thanks, I do this only every few years [01:58] [Relic]: i recommend putting it into a daily cron job; you can use it to help recover after disasters [01:58] joh6nn: Nope, I can't [01:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/361671/ [01:59] serox: then something is running on your machine, i'd think, that is blocking certain ports. a firewall maybe? [02:02] joh6nn: Maybe it's my router? [02:02] joh6nn: But why isn't it blocking in 9.10? [02:02] joh6nn: I use a Linksys WRT54GL [02:03] joh6nn: I have a fiber-connection, so I don't have any modem. [02:03] serox: exactly, that's why i think it's something that's running on the machine; otherwise it would prevent other devices/installs from working, as well [02:03] THought maybe you should know. [02:03] joh6nn: Aha okey [02:03] joh6nn: Anything I can do/try maybe that you know of? [02:03] `ps aux` to see what's running ? [02:05] I will try it [02:06] joh6nn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361674/ [02:09] <[Relic]> haven't had any disasters :) [02:10] [Relic]: then you're probably over due for one :) [02:11] <[Relic]> it is called an new install :) [02:11] serox: what do you get if you run lsof -i ? [02:16] joh6nn: I will try [02:17] joh6nn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361679/ [02:22] serox: hrm. i'm out of ideas, then :( [02:23] joh6nn: Okey [02:23] joh6nn: Could it be something with the router or what? [02:24] it could be. that would be strange, but it's a strange problem [02:24] Hehe yes [02:24] joh6nn: But the question then is -> which port is closed/opened that shouldn't be t [02:24] be it [02:27] joh6nn: Are you using Kubuntu 9.10? [02:27] yes [02:27] Okey, happy with KDE4? [02:27] Well; i gues you are since you're using it =) [02:29] <[Relic]> using something simply because there isn't anything better isn't the same as being happy with it [02:30] serox: actually, i'm not [02:30] i just upgraded yesterday [02:30] i'd been running 8.04 for quite some time, reluctant to upgrade [02:30] <[Relic]> same here [02:30] <[Relic]> going to upgrade in a few though :) [02:31] joh6nn: Ahh okey, I didn't like KDE4 at all [02:31] but a few things finally forced me to. since the upgrade, in addition to KDE4 not being as good as KDE3 (in my opinion), i've been having some internet issues [02:31] joh6nn: What does "reluctant" mean? [02:31] so, 2 steps forward, 1 step back [02:31] serox: unwilling, didn't want to [02:31] Ahh okey [02:31] joh6nn: I installed Ubuntu 9.10, was pretty okey. [02:32] But some things in GNOME looks pretty old in some way. [02:33] But it was sooo nice to be able to use some newer packages + have my internetproblem fixed. [02:33] But I really really love KDE3, I would like to use it forever if it had the same updates as 9.10 etc [02:34] Damn it, my cabl went out frm my laptop. [02:37] serox: yeah, i feel the same way. i was much happier with KDE3; i understand that it was time to rewrite some things, but i'm not sure that KDE4 is an improvement [02:37] Baaah, it's 03:37 here =/ [02:37] it's been more than a year already, and still not all the features from KDE3 are back [02:37] joh6nn: KDE4 was annoying me as hell [02:38] I gave it one last chans like 10 days ago, but I re-installed after 15min [02:38] They removed kedit, kview as well, really annoying [02:39] And I couldn't create icons easily on the desktop like I can with KDE3, and I couldn't drag icons to the taskbar as easily as in KDE3. [02:40] And those widgets at the top of the screen-corners was annoying me. Kopete-KDE3 is alot better looking etc [02:40] Wellwell [02:40] joh6nn: Thanks alot for your help, I really appreciate it alot [02:40] Time to go to bed, take care everybody! [02:40] God natt [02:40] no problem :) [02:40] Ops, that was in swedish =) [02:40] nacht! [02:40] God night! [02:40] serox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:40] Sorry =) [03:22] !netsplit [03:22] !netsplit [03:22] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [03:53] i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty. I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help [04:03] joh6nn: how can you tell [04:05] ilumi: how do you mean? [04:05] you mean what are my specific symptoms? [04:06] joh6nn: how can you tell it's actually slower [04:07] ilumi: web pages i visit regularly are loading very slowly. my fiancee's machine, still running Hardy, is just a few feet away, and loading them just fine [04:08] i have the same symptoms trying to transfer a file from my box to hers, over the lan, so it's not just wan traffic [04:09] joh6nn: why dont you do a speed test, and see hwat you get [04:10] Speedtest.net or speakeasy or both [04:16] ilumi: speedtest.net is telling me roughly about 2 Mbs down. it should be about 5 [04:17] but beyond that, trying to download packages last night, apt told me that a 50Mb was going to take over an hour to download [04:18] i let it go for about 20 minutes before i got fed up and downloaded it on another box on the lan and moved it over with a usb drive [04:23] not sure could be driver problem, [04:24] did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? [04:26] ilumi: i always do clean installs; i've had back luck with upgrades. [04:26] i tried upgrading to a backport driver to see if that would help, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference [04:27] i also tried switching from networking manager to wicd, but i didn't seem to have any connectivity at all then, though i may have missed something there [04:31] !netsplit [04:31] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [04:33] !netsplit [04:33] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [04:56] !kubuntu [04:56] kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [04:56] !gnome [04:56] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [04:56] !ubuntu [04:56] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package. [04:57] !Michael Jackson === ilumi is now known as werfact [08:55] Help. Have new eee, 250gb hd. Want to dual boot 9.10 with current win 7. Disk came with 4 primary partitions - os, data, 0x1b install, 16MB boot booster. Have deleted data, but don't want to delete others. I expect current 3 partitions to be a problem. Are there any docs out there regarding partitioning / dual-boot for these circumstances? Thanks. [08:56] er, Current 3 primary partitions leaves one for extended, and I expect only having an extended partition available for kubuntu to be the problem. === bs27975_not is now known as bs27975 [09:07] Anyone home? (Can't tell.) Help, please. Have new eee, 250gb hd. Want to dual boot 9.10 with current win 7. Disk came with 4 primary partitions - os, data, 0x1b install, 16MB boot booster. Have deleted data, but don't want to delete others. I expect current 3 primary partitions to be a problem for installing kubuntu, as this would require it to live entirely within extended partition, which... [09:07] ...I suspect it will be unhappy about. Are there any docs out there regarding partitioning / dual-boot for these circumstances? Thanks kindly. Googling brings results like drinking from a fire hose - can't find pertinent hits from all the background noise. [09:08] you have to mount each drive first [09:12] pat|ng ??? [09:13] pat|ng ... i.e. You were talking to me? [09:57] btw did anyone upgrade to 4.3.95? [09:58] (even though its not official,its in the repos) [11:15] hi how can i configure konqueror so that it will know how to handle irc links, open them with a chat client? [11:16] hi all [11:17] :( nobody knows this or is it simply not possible [11:17] ? [11:18] regenkind: I know there is a way, but I don't know how [11:19] Hey guys, does anyone know how to set the panel color? [11:22] Does quassel support dcc file transfer now? [11:27] hey guys do you know how can I find hard links in directory tof ind soft one we uce ls -s but I dont know hardlinks [11:33] @jti: AFAIK you simply can't if you follow the text from info coreutils 'ln invocation' you'll that they (hardlink and source) are simply the same [11:33] oups... missed the verb: see [11:35] hi [11:36] Hello I' new in Linux, I have installed the Kubuntu last version and have problems with video rasolution, can anyone help me? I'm using virtualbox [11:41] I don't see an option in kdebluetooth for receiving files, how come? [11:52] Hello I' new in Linux, I have installed the Kubuntu last version and have problems with video rasolution, can anyone help me? I'm using virtualbox [11:52] AlexV_ whats your problem [11:54] I run KUBUNTU in virtual box under windows XP , I would like to use it in full screen mode in resolution 1400X900, but KUBUNTU does not have this resolution options it only has 800X600 and 600X480 [11:54] you have to install vbox tools [11:55] "guestadditions" en vbox menu [11:55] then restart y resize your vbox windows [11:56] ToxinPowe - no idea what "vbox tools" are, but I will find out . [11:57] Thanks [11:59] I need to install "vbox tools" under virtual Linux? OR under host windows? [12:00] http://www.ehow.com/how_2343701_screen-resolution-ubuntu-virtual-box.html [12:08] Thanks, let me try it. === xavier is now known as Guest64063 [12:21] Does anyone know a GTK+ theme that looks like the default Oxygen and that adopts system colors? [12:25] AlexV_, works? === Malin_ is now known as Malin_away === Malin_away is now known as Malin_ === kinzeron is now known as sendalB === sendalB is now known as sendal [14:07] Hi, where can I find help with using a cell phone to connect to the internet via Bluetooth? (thanks) [14:08] OuZo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup [14:30] hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks [14:31] ajd2k9: you might want to ask this in channel #linux [14:32] alright will do cheers ... n00b q .. how do i get there lol [14:32] /join #linux === binarylooks_ is now known as binarylooks [14:33] working? [14:34] seem to of lost my mouse :(~ [14:34] as in it wont move lol === binarylooks is now known as binarylooks_ [14:36] ajd2k9: which client do you use? [14:36] might want to use page down biutton [14:36] button === binarylooks_ is now known as binarylooks [14:50] matijn : im using Koala === AssociateXxx is now known as AssociateX [14:51] Hi and also hello [14:52] Is there a site that list by consensus what the best packages for this or that are? [14:53] I need to edit some VOB files [14:54] hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks [14:57] _help === orion is now known as Guest113 [15:23] hi i seem to have a problem just recently changed from my gfx card to onboard HDMI port so i could get audio through my tv .. it works with my music but not with mozilla or vlc .. works in amarok perfectly fine its just when theres video involved .. any suggestions peeps ... thanks??? [15:24] ajd2k9_: what did they told you in #linux ? [15:25] ajd2k9_: it has to do with pulseaudio, so you have to change output device of pulseaudio [15:25] pulse audio? [15:25] !pulseaudio [15:25] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [15:25] thanks mate ! [15:26] that's what I would blame, anyway [15:33] where can i see processor's working frequency? [15:37] tm_T : pulse audio hasnt made a diffrence ... === Maniac is now known as Guest69824 [15:53] whats a good channel for launchpad ppa help? [15:53] like uploading packages and stuff ? === ubuntu is now known as bomber [16:00] im trying to reinstall grub and not having any luck [16:01] bomber: seen the wiki page? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:01] in the /boot/grub directory it doesnt even show the menu.lst file? [16:01] i have tried the instructions but to no avail [16:03] bomber: where are you stuk? [16:03] bomber: *stuck [16:04] well when i do find /boot/grub/stage1 i get file not found [16:04] when i do parted --list i see the partition i installed linux too but i cant get the bootloader back on it [16:04] bomber: one sec [16:05] bomber: this is grub2 right? [16:05] i have 2 ide drives and 1 sata [16:05] That was just strange. [16:06] bomber: no i mean there are 2 grub versions : grub 1 and grub 2 [16:06] i believe its ver 2 [16:06] its the latest kubuntu [16:06] bomber: do you have a live usb/cd ? [16:07] thats what im using now [16:07] bomber: try this then : http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide [16:07] bomber: itll grub from scratch [16:07] ok lemme see [16:08] bomber: grub-install didn't work? [16:08] no it cant find the stage1 file [16:08] Shaan7: its required to bind the drive first [16:08] thats probably missing in the wiki [16:08] shadeslayer: i had told him to mount the partition [16:09] Shaan7: mounting and binding are 2 different thiings [16:09] shadeslayer: mount /dev/sdXn /mnt works for me [16:09] *thinkgs [16:09] eek.. typos :P [16:09] Shaan7: yeah thats mounting but you need to bind the drive too [16:09] Shaan7: like this : sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev [16:10] i tried your method too shaan7.... you were the one that told me a few muntes ago? [16:10] Shaan7: please read the same link i gave to bomber [16:10] im reading now [16:10] shadeslayer: ok, then I was lucky that it worked without bind ;) will take care next time. thanks :) [16:11] Shaan7: no problem :) [16:13] bomber: did it work? [16:14] Why would process' be shjowing xorg using 30+% of the load on my proccy? [16:14] im still doing it...... double checking everything before i run them [16:15] bomber: ah thats good policy :) [16:15] btw anyone here know packaging ? [16:17] something mush have went wrong...... getting command not found now [16:17] bomber: whut? [16:17] trying apt-get or grub [16:17] bomber: 0_o [16:18] i made it to the part where you chane to root than im getting command errors now [16:18] bomber: which command error? === kishore_ is now known as kishore [16:18] command not found [16:19] bomber: for which command? [16:19] trying to run apt-get install grub [16:19] bomber: >< [16:19] bomber: you cant just apt-get install grub :P [16:19] i already installed grub so i tried just running grub and that wont work either [16:19] bomber: if youve install grub then just reboot the system [16:20] lemme try but i dont think it installed [16:20] brb [16:20] bomber: sure === drostie_ is now known as drostie === pierpaolo is now known as Galaxy [16:34] hi [16:38] sup === mathias is now known as Guest98972 [16:45] hääääääää [16:45] wie geht dess [16:46] adsf [16:48] asdf [16:49] sf [16:49] as [16:49] df [16:49] asdf [16:49] michi__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:49] sdf [16:49] Gi jetzt gehts oder? [16:49] schreib ma was in des kästle [16:49] !!!!!!!!!!!! [16:49] same thing... no grub [16:50] hüä [16:50] was issn dess [16:50] kann dess ma einer erklärn? [16:51] sin da noch andere leute oder nur unser pc === mathias is now known as Guest8235 [17:00] i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty. I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help [17:00] I think I'm suffering from that libindicate3 bug, the bug DB tells me to upgrade to version ubuntu2, but I don't know where to do that === mathias is now known as Guest66859 [17:02] unfortunately, if I can't get this bug fixed I'll have to switch back to Debian... I liked kubuntu several years ago but the basic QA is just baffling to me. How can you release something that crashes when you add and then remove a panel applet [17:02] who exactly is "testing" this thing [17:03] does someone speak german here? [17:03] !de | Guest66859 [17:03] Guest66859: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [17:04] Guest66859: ein bisschen. but there are german language help channels === Guest66859 is now known as Michilaptop [17:06] hi are there any realistic car games for linux currently ? [17:06] Hi ! [17:06] \o/ [17:06] I installed 9.10 on a laptop, had the same silly crash (tried to add a panel button, then remove it, kicker went away and never came back). In that case I just gave up and installed Debian. I'm giving Kubuntu a second chance on my other machine but if nobody can help why should I keep wasting my time [17:06] this is a really basic, basic thing. The thing is crashing out of the box. Who is testing this stuff, I'd like to give them a few suggestions [17:07] !games | Martijn81 [17:07] Martijn81: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php [17:07] Alien2: i came in late; what's the problem you're seeing? [17:07] Alien2: what is a "panel button"? [17:07] Alien2: ok first of all which KDE version? [17:08] I'm using 9.10 Kubuntu, straight out of box, I cannot tell you the version, since all of KDE is essentially crashed [17:08] I have the windows which are currently open, and that's it [17:08] I made a Krunner plugin for Opera where can I post it ? [17:08] Alien2: go to help > about KDE [17:08] How am I supposed to click on help when nothing is working [17:08] (of any window) [17:09] Ok. KDE 4.3.2 [17:09] Alien2: you said you have windows open [17:09] I filed a bug report last night, the bug collector tells me it's a dup of some libindicate3 bug [17:09] Alien2: ok now can you open a terminal? [17:09] Alien2: um thats a gnome library.. [17:09] * shadeslayer wonders how that could affect kde [17:10] "Um," I filed a bug report through the automated crash reporter. Today in my email it tells me this thing. [17:10] So basically, by using the facilities of the system it's telling me I have a Gnome issue? Again, who the hell is testing this crap [17:10] Alien2: can you paste the link to the bug report? [17:10] Alien2: please be patient and let us sort out the problem [17:11] Alien2: we need info not sarcasm to work :) [17:11] hang on I am digging up the email [17:11] Alien2: sure [17:12] as far as sarcasm, I am not trying to be sarcastic. I don't understand how something can be released that crashes within 5 minutes of booting up, when I try to do something extremely simple [17:12] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224002 [17:12] Alien2: it didnt crash when i had 4.3.4 [17:13] it says that my bug has been marked as a dup of 212063 [17:13] Alien2: well, it'd be pretty hard to test every possible scenario, on every possible piece of hardware [17:13] Alien2: ah its marked as a duplicate [17:13] is there a chan for kubuntu dev ? [17:13] I understand the difficulties of testing. [17:14] Alien2: please do apt-cache policy libindicate3 and report back the version [17:14] but this has happened on both machines I have installed 9.10 on, one is a laptop, one is a Mac Mini x86 [17:14] shades, somebody just told me that libindicate3 is part of Gnome, which I am not using [17:15] but I will check [17:15] Alien2: yeah i just told you that :) [17:15] Alien2: but sometimes when you install apps like firefox some parts of gnome libraries are pulled in [17:15] It says installed 0.2.3-0ubuntu1, candidate 0.2.3-0ubuntu2 [17:15] Alien2: thats the proble [17:16] Alien2: thats the problem update to 0.2.3-0ubuntu2 and itll be fixed [17:16] Alien2: read : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212063 [17:16] Alien2: or more accurately : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212063#c28 [17:16] shades, I did read that, I knew this information already... my original question was HOW to upgrade this package, that's what I can't figure out [17:17] Alien2: why didnt you ask to then? do : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:17] Alien2: my bad [17:17] the very first thing I commented here was "I think I'm suffering from that libindicate3 bug, the bug DB tells me [17:17] to upgrade to version ubuntu2, but I don't know where to do that" [17:17] Alien2: i just started reading from your second post,im sorry [17:18] no prob. [17:18] I've been doing this a long time. I have to say, some of these newer facilities are making things harder for me, not easier [17:18] Alien2: well for basic updates and upgrades use : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:18] that seems a little heavy handed. [17:19] Alien2: heavy handed as in? [17:20] as in I do not want to upgrade everything to the latest version, just the component which is not working [17:20] Alien2: that command updates everything to the latest bugfix release,why dont you use that? [17:21] because I prefer the bugs I know to the bugs I don't know [17:22] * Kolia prefers less bugs [17:22] Alien2: i think that new stuff is uploaded so as to fix stuff not break it [17:22] thanks for these links shadeslayer ! [17:23] Martijn81: if you like gaming i would suggest sabayon [17:24] you just told me that it's impossible to test all configurations, which I understand, being a developer myself. so how can you also say that patching 1000 different things will make my system better, my system is "unique," right? [17:24] Alien2: yes,but usually bugfixes are really important upgrades.. [17:25] hey man, thanks again! :D [17:25] Alien2: A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by following the package name with an equals and the version of the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected for install. Alternatively a specific distribution can be selected by following the package name with a slash and the version of the distribution or the Archive name (stable, testing, unstable). [17:25] the installation is so fresh I suppose I have nothing to lose anyway. [17:25] Alien2: directly from the apt-get man page [17:26] Alien2: i would seriously recommend those upgrades... they arent called upgrades for no reason [17:26] I'm not trying to be a dick, I just work on software where a crash in the field results in somebody losing their job so you gotta understand my viewpoint is colored by that sort of attitude [17:27] I am going to pull the trigger now. [17:27] Alien2: i understand but what im saying is completely different.. im saying to remain updated to latest bug fixes,or atleast just the security updates.. [17:27] Alien2: itll be a better experience not a worse on [17:27] *one [17:28] Alien2: updates and patches are released so as to make the system work better,not worse,and even though they dont test them out on every machine,the tests themselves are pretty exhaustive [17:33] Alien2: upgraded? [17:33] still going [17:33] Alien2: how big is the upgrade anyways? [17:34] did not notice the package count, but it's 193 megabytes of stuff. [17:35] hi [17:36] markinux: hey [17:36] what's up? [17:37] arrrrgh it's updating the kernel, this is the kind of thing that makes me nervous === oug is now known as jumanjiko [17:37] ok. it's done, guess I'll reboot and pray. [17:37] hopefully bbiab [17:39] one last question before I shutdown... any idea why a 'shutdown -h now' or a 'halt' doesn't seem the work -- the progress bar hangs at about 95%. I need to hard poweroff, which sucks. it's a mac mini so maybe it's a hardware thing [17:39] Alien2: no need to pray [17:39] Alien2: works on a dell here [17:39] Alien2: try : sudo halt -h NOW [17:40] always works here :) [17:40] hello everyone [17:40] that's exactly what I do. even if it does go down, doesn't come back up correctly. it hangs on the mac's gray bootup screen. I'm sure it's a mac mini thing [17:40] anyway. be back. [17:40] i have some problem with qt. can anyone help me [17:41] phoenix_: whats the problem? [17:41] phoenix_: is this related to kubuntu? [17:41] my os is kubuntu, but problem is in qt [17:42] when i try to build my project , it says unused variables [17:42] i am not able to build my program [17:43] phoenix_: try #kubuntu_devel :) [17:44] phoenix_: #kubuntu-devel sorry [17:44] what is that === orion_ is now known as Guest60492 [17:44] i am a newbie [17:44] phoenix_: hi, so i started on Qt [17:45] phoenix_: there is a #qt chanel and a #c++ [17:45] how can i access the channel [17:45] same way you got to this one [17:45] phoenix_: what are you using? [17:45] /j #qt [17:46] quassel irc [17:46] seems to be working, but I had to blow away ~/.kde [17:46] how would I disable touchpad tapping automatically on startup in KDE? I don't believe KDE's systemsettings has touchpad settings. [17:47] phoenix_: in that Tab that you see the server messages you can tupe command , "join #qt" withoud "characthers [17:47] syndaemon appears to have a switch to disable both tapping and scrolling, but I still want the latter [17:47] ok [17:47] its showing up in the left panel i will try that [17:48] thank you [17:48] I'm currently just running gsynaptics to apply disable tapping manually on each boot, but I'd rather have it work without interaction [17:48] s/apply // [17:52] Dhraakellian: that might be possible but youll need to familiar with CLO [17:52] s/CLO/CLI [17:53] Dhraakellian: also see synclient [17:53]