[00:18] <micahg> asac: how can I help?
[01:40] <micahg> maxb: http://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Iceowl_extensions_1_0b1_in_experimental.html
[03:46] <micahg> asac: you on?
[06:27] <vish> hmm.. when will firefox 3.6 land in lucid?
[06:27] <micahg> vish: when it's ready ;)
[06:27] <vish> ;p
[07:22] <micahg> asac: let's talk in the morning...I think I have TB3 merged again, but I have a slight problem
[08:41] <LLStarks> what about thunderbird 3?
[11:08] <asac> vish: ffox36 is in NEW ... so waits for archive admin kick
[11:09]  * vish ha.. so asac *can* see me ;)
[11:09] <asac> one sec ;)
[11:11] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/sandbox/+packages
[11:11] <asac> vish: can you try to upgrade to them? ... if so i will copy them to the new firefox-stable ppa
[11:11]  * vish tires
[11:11] <asac> just add that ppa and run dist-upgrade
[11:12] <asac> and post what apt wants to do ;)
[11:13] <asac> interestingly the amd64 builders queue somehow managed to catch up over night
[11:30] <hifi> where is the official 3.6 release pushed first (ppa, any repo)?
[11:32] <asac> hifi: its stuck in NEW ... so it will be first in firefox-stable ppa
[11:32] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[11:33] <hifi> thanks, it'll be just a day or so when it's available?
[11:37] <LLStarks> tigger?
[11:37] <LLStarks> nice.
[11:38] <asac> hifi: atm i hope in 1h ;)
[11:38] <asac> but if the latest package is bad it can take indefinitly longer
[11:39] <vish> asac: dist-upgrade says nothing to be upgraded... your sandbox is in the new repos
[11:40] <hifi> asac: ah, cool :)
[11:40] <vish> sandbox firefox stuff*
[11:41] <asac> vish: if you are running dailies then thats expected
[11:41] <asac> daily is ahead of 3.6 final
[11:42] <vish> asac: ..., i'm on lucid main
[11:42] <vish> i dont have the dailies
[11:42] <asac> vish: apt-cache policy firefox
[11:42] <asac> i am using lucid main too
[11:42] <asac> and just doing the same
[11:42] <asac> i get
[11:42] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/361876/
[11:43] <asac> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/361877/ (for policy)
[11:43] <vish> asac: > http://paste.ubuntu.com/361878/
[11:44] <asac> vish: you use pinning ;)
[11:44] <asac> 600 http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Packages
[11:44] <vish> asac: argh! i forgot
[11:44] <asac> drop your pinning
[11:44] <asac> :-P
[11:44] <vish> :s , thanks for pointing it out ;)
[11:45] <asac> let me know if the upgrade wents smooth
[11:46] <vish> asac: yay > http://paste.ubuntu.com/361880/  upgrading ;)
[11:47] <asac> cool
[11:52] <asac> vish: upgrade finished?
[11:53]  * asac copies to stable ppa once vish confirms ;)
[11:56] <vish> asac: worked , but weird , that it didnt check for add-on updates/compatibility , but rather just said add-ons incompatible
[11:56] <vish> i had to check manually
[11:56] <asac> interesting
[11:57] <vish> oh , crappy firefox fonts again :s
[11:57] <asac> hifi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/ ... in a few minutes
[11:58] <asac> vish: yes
[11:58] <asac> we filed upstream bug already ... it happens because we dont use system-cairo anymore
[11:58] <asac> 15:40 < asac_> font cairo issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541319
[12:00]  * vish digs for workarounds
[12:01] <asac> i dont think there are any ... besides maybe making a link to the firefox libcairo for /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.8
[12:01] <hifi> asac: thank you!
[12:01] <asac> but that might make whole desktop to crash ;) ... so be prepared for battle
[12:01] <asac> hifi: oh. its only karmic and lucid for now
[12:01] <asac> hardy and jaunty will follow soonish ;)
[12:03] <marquinos> Hi!
[12:04] <marquinos> With a proposed update, the asturian language was updated
[12:04] <marquinos> and then firefox not run any more
[12:04] <hifi> asac: I run lucid :)
[12:04] <marquinos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/511837
[12:05] <marquinos> Any idea about the origin of the problem? what string?
[12:07] <asac> marquinos: please check with ArneGoetje in -desktop
[12:07] <hifi> asac: it works
[12:09] <asac> great
[12:09] <asac> enjoy
[12:09] <hifi> will do, thank you very much :)
[12:10] <marquinos> asac, I don't undertand you :$ Where can I check with ArneGoetje? in irc?
[12:10] <asac> marquinos: #ubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <asac> he is probably not there till tomorrow
[12:10] <asac> yes irc
[12:11] <asac> i dont know exactly whats going on. but we moved the langpack creation thing to a different server
[12:11] <asac> so it might have something to do with that
[12:11] <marquinos> ok ;)
[12:11] <marquinos> Thanks asac !
[12:11] <marquinos> :)
[12:11] <asac> np
[12:12] <hifi> asac: btw. will that ppa always track upstream stable faster?
[12:12] <asac> yes
[12:12] <asac> thats the idea
[12:13] <asac> delay was due to the fact that we did a big refactoring of the packaging
[12:28] <hifi> hmm, what kind of video formats firefox 3.6 supports by default
[12:29] <hifi> yeah, ogg only
[13:00] <asac> fta: do you have a stable m-devscript in some ppa?
[13:01] <asac> i need to binary copy that to firefox-stable to hardy
[13:01] <asac> didnt really want to copy umd
[13:03] <asac> guess i should just copy
[13:03] <asac> doing
[13:03] <asac> lets hope that doesnt bust the -stable ppa ;)
[13:11] <asac> fta: i guess you can safely disable nmt for "jaunty"
[13:11] <asac> we will never be able to backport all the bits needed
[14:00] <fta> asac, done
[14:00] <asac> zthx
[14:00] <fta> what about ff3.5?
[14:02] <asac> disable it for now too
[14:02] <asac> also how about killing intrepid everywhere ;)?
[14:03] <asac> lets keep it running till eol
[14:19] <fta> done
[14:19] <fta> i hate people redenting with the same groups
[14:19] <fta> the server should drop the groups
[14:39] <asac> true
[14:39] <asac> thought it did
[14:40] <asac> at least the redent button should
[14:51] <asac> i386  3   555 jobs (26 hours)
[14:51] <asac> ok out for lunch etc.
[14:56] <mbana> asac: hi, just wondering if u've tried it urself
[14:59] <Ruyan> Hi, how can i install mozilla SDK on ubuntu?
[14:59] <asac> Ruyan: not sure what that is ... xulrunner-1.9.1-dev contains the xulrunner sdk
[14:59] <asac> mbana: tried what?
[15:00] <asac> lunch
[15:01] <Ruyan> i need run up xpcom
[15:23] <fta> damn, i can't login on openrunner.com with chromium
[15:25] <fta> XHR error
[15:25] <fta> damn site
[15:29] <asac> Ruyan: i think our xul -dev packages are what you are looking for
[15:35] <asac> micahg: what's the prob?
[15:35] <asac> (tb3 merge)
[15:35] <micahg> asac: I tried a bzr mv on tb3 before merge and they still conflict because of no common ancestor
[15:42] <asac> before merge?
[15:42] <asac> bzr merge -r 0.. ... worked for me
[15:42] <asac> had conflicts, but those were resolvable
[15:43] <micahg> asac: I did bzr mv on the tb3 files so they have the same name, then bzr merge -r0..-1 and I get a debian and a debian.moved dir
[15:43] <asac> debian.moved is the old tb2?
[15:43] <asac> thats ok i guess
[15:43] <micahg> asac: yes, but the diff is the entire debian dir :(
[15:44] <asac> so its tricky next steps are:
[15:44] <asac> bzr mv debian.moved/changelog changelog
[15:44] <asac> edit and add the tb3 changelog on top
[15:45] <asac> let me see if i can do the first few steps
[15:45]  * micahg was also wondering why ff changelog is in TB...
[15:45] <asac> because the tb package orginated from the ff package ;)
[15:45] <asac> iirc
[15:45] <micahg> should it stay there?
[15:46] <asac> have to look ... one sec
[15:48] <asac> ok pushed current .head to bzr push lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thundebird.head.tb3-take1
[15:48] <asac> now uncommitting the stuff to last 2.0 release
[15:50] <asac> if that doesnt work we can just use that i think and continue
[15:50] <micahg> well, I have the new files, I can copy the stuff in with meld...
[15:52] <asac> meld?
[15:53] <micahg> merge tool
[15:55] <asac> ok this works:
[15:55] <asac> (not great, but better than not merging at all)
[15:55] <asac> bzr rm debian
[15:56] <asac> bzr commit --local -m "* delete all packaging files to prepare tb3 merge"
[15:56] <asac> bzr merge -r0.. ../thunderbird-3.0.head
[15:56] <asac> let me commit those two steps
[15:57] <micahg> that basically has the same problem I have
[15:58] <micahg> delete old add new
[15:59] <asac> no
[15:59] <asac> its different
[15:59] <asac> you didnt do merge -r0..
[15:59] <asac> so now we have the same you initially did, but the branch has the full tbird 3 commit history
[15:59] <asac> so now you can use bzr mv etc.
[15:59] <asac> to replay what you did before
[15:59] <asac> committed the delete and then merge
[15:59] <asac> rev 115
[16:00] <asac> the tb3-take1 branch still has all from what you had
[16:00] <asac> not perfect, but bets we can do i guess
[16:00] <asac> the tbird branch should never have been started from scratch to begin with ;)
[16:01] <asac> micahg: so you think you can go on now with bzr mv etc.?
[16:01] <micahg> asac: now I can probaby merge in my local tb3.head :)
[16:01] <asac> err that sounds like it would be bad
[16:01] <asac> but try
[16:02]  * micahg will try to have this done by 19:00 UTC
[16:02] <asac> i am quite sure you have to to replay
[16:02] <micahg> asac: I redid my local TB3
[16:02] <asac> ah
[16:02] <asac> ok
[16:02] <asac> why not try it right now ;)?
[16:02] <asac> while i am still here
[16:02] <asac> will be on the road a bit later ;)
[16:04] <asac> 17:03 < asac> thunderbird.dev$ bzr log --include-merges | pastebinit
[16:04] <asac> 17:03 < asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/362021/
[16:04] <asac> 17:03 < asac> there is the whole history ;)
[16:04] <asac> posted to wrong channel :-P
[16:13] <micahg> ok, my bzr mv changes worked now, but we need some of the packaging stuff from TB2 :(
[16:13] <micahg> should I just copy those back in
[16:15] <micahg> asac: ^^
[17:08] <mbana> hello
[17:08] <mbana> who's using KDE
[17:56] <asac_> micahg: what packaging stuff?
[17:56] <micahg> asac_: some of the files that weren't in the 3.0 branch
[17:57] <asac_> should be ok to add them again
[17:57] <micahg> k, I'll meld the changes in
[17:57] <micahg> asac_: what happened to ff36?
[17:57] <asac_> in firefox-stable
[17:57] <asac_> but stuck in NEW :/
[17:58]  * micahg missed that somehow
[17:58] <asac_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/+packages
[17:58] <asac_> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue
[17:59] <micahg> ah, ok, do you need an archive admin to allow?
[17:59] <micahg> since it's a new source?
[17:59] <sebner> micahg: aye
[18:00] <asac_> yes ... i thought it wasnt new because that source was still in hardy etc. but seems i was wrong ;)
[18:00] <sebner> asac_: what does mfs stand for?
[18:00] <asac_> moz ffox stable
[18:03] <sebner> asac_: haha, you are way to serious. What speaks against leaving mfs out? Most people will ignore/don't understand it anyways
[18:05] <asac_> no its good to have it
[18:06] <sebner> asac_: speaking of ff, any progress regarding TB?
[18:06] <micahg> sebner: testing build now :)
[18:07] <sebner> micahg: ah I forgot, you are in charge of it :D
[18:07] <micahg> sebner: I'm attempting it :)
[18:07] <sebner> heh
[18:07] <sebner> micahg: testbuilding means upload to Ubuntu if everything is going fine?!
[18:08] <micahg> sebner: probably, but I think I'll need to tweak a few things ;)
[18:08] <sebner> micahg: nothing against you but you are tweaking since the 3.0 release 2 months ago :P FF3.6 just got released some days ago and it's ready :P
[18:09] <micahg> sebner: I wasn't working on it straight for 2 months...
[18:09] <sebner> ^^
[18:09] <micahg> I was missing some bzr fundamentals on my first try
[18:10] <sebner> nvm nvm, it's was more of a joke anyways
[18:10] <micahg> sebner: asac's been working behind the scenes on the ff 3.6 migration since UDS I think
[18:10] <asac_> me?
[18:10] <asac_> no
[18:10] <micahg> no
[18:10] <micahg> ?
[18:10] <julio> hi there, i've just added the daily repo to my sources and updated on the will of having 3.6 but when installed firefox-3.6 and firefox-3.6-gnome-support nothing changed. Any clue of what might be wrong?
[18:10] <micahg> julio: install firefox
[18:11] <asac_> i was working on firefox-support-model in that i planned etc. but hands on work i didnt really do
[18:11] <julio> i already have it... 3.5.7
[18:11] <micahg> firefox-3.6 is no longer..it'
[18:11] <micahg> s migrated to firefox in the daily ppa
[18:11] <julio> should i remove it prior to install?
[18:11] <asac_> i did firefox-3.5 all-static sometimes after UDS ... proof of concept thing ... like two times a few hours
[18:11] <micahg> no, it should upgrade
[18:12] <julio> also someone told me that it could appear as namoroka or comething line on the internet menu but is not there either
[18:12] <julio> any clue?
[18:13] <asac_> julio: dpkg -l firefox\*
[18:13] <asac_> paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <micahg> asac_: /bin/sh: debian/thunderbird.postinst: not found
[18:14] <asac_> julio: you need to run apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:14] <micahg> I have the .in file
[18:15] <asac_> micahg: the .in file is transformed in debian/rules
[18:16] <julio> asac_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362096/
[18:16] <asac_> you need to drop the version there
[18:16] <asac_> julio: the daily takes over 3.5.7 ... you just have to upgrade your system after adding the ppa
[18:16] <asac_> installing firefox-3.6 etc. wasnt really necessary
[18:17] <asac_> julio: you could also remove those two packages again and rather go for the stable ppa: ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[18:17] <asac_> which isnt daily ;)
[18:17] <asac_> and has 3.6
[18:18] <micahg> asac_: fixed, I goofed the .rules file when I added some stuff :9
[18:18] <asac_> k
[18:18] <julio> well... dist-upgrade or or the last thing?
[18:18] <asac_> depends on whether you want to use dailies for your main browser in future
[18:18] <asac_> if not go the stable route
[18:19] <julio> so if i want to use the stable one i can safely remove daily from my sources?
[18:19] <asac_> yes
[18:19] <asac_> add the stable ppa in /topic instead
[18:21] <julio> how can i add the ppa on the command line? mean, editing on vim... the "deb something lines"
[18:21] <micahg> julio: karmic?
[18:21] <julio> yup
[18:22] <asac_> julio: ^^
[18:22] <micahg> asac_: add sudo there
[18:22] <micahg> asac_: nm
[18:22] <asac_> but you need to remove daily explicitly ;)
[18:22] <asac_> but thats clear i guess
[18:22]  * micahg need to fix the pins :)
[18:22] <julio> so sudo ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable right?
[18:23] <micahg> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[18:23] <julio> i've asked for the deb lines as i feel more comfortable having all the ppas grouped :p
[18:24] <micahg> julio: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[18:24] <julio> will this add it at the end of the file?
[18:24] <asac_> no
[18:24] <micahg> julio: it creates its own file in sources.list.d
[18:24] <asac_> it will add a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:24] <asac_> ack
[18:24] <asac_> best way to do it in general
[18:25] <julio> advantages?
[18:25] <asac_> i am not here to convince anyone
[18:26] <micahg> julio: imports key for you
[18:26] <julio> ic
[18:26] <micahg> asac_: seems to be buiilding :)
[18:27] <asac_> it starts building. then wait till it fails
[18:27] <asac_> and fix stuff
[18:27] <asac_> probably need to be really lucky to not fail ...
[18:27] <asac_> have you dropped the patch that appends version etc?
[18:27] <asac_> that needs to be dropped now
[18:27] <micahg> asac_: I modified the profile patch to not add version
[18:28] <asac_> thunderbird-3-profile.patch
[18:28] <asac_> good
[18:28] <micahg> I kept the substitution of %APP_NAME% for thunderbird
[18:28] <micahg> like we did for firefox
[18:28] <asac_> ok
[18:29] <micahg> although, it probably can be dropped too if it's unversioned I guess
[18:29] <asac_> we keep it in firefox because of the abrowser thing. i dont think thats needed here directly anymore ... but well
[18:29] <asac_> ;)
[18:29] <asac_> yes
[18:29] <asac_> the complete patch can go
[18:29] <micahg> k, next spin ;)
[18:29] <asac_> we would need it for a thunderbird-dev package etc.
[18:29] <asac_> err
[18:29] <asac_> thunderbird-daily
[18:29] <asac_> thunderbird-beta
[18:29] <asac_> etc.
[18:29] <asac_> -dev would be confusing ;)
[18:29] <asac_> anyway. have to pack things and then travel. fell asleep when i targetted to travel
[18:30] <asac_> will check later whats going on
[18:30] <micahg> I think I found the stuff for the -dev package...
[18:30] <asac_> guess a bit more than 2.5h from now
[18:30] <asac_> micahg: lets do the -dev package after the upload ;)
[18:30] <micahg> 0ubuntu2?
[18:31] <asac_> well. lets first get there ;)
[18:31] <asac_> off for now
[18:34] <julio> ok. added the stable repo, should i install it manully now or a apt-get upgrade will do it?
[18:34] <julio> it offers only 3.5
[18:34] <micahg> apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:38] <julio> on it, in the mean time... is there a way of checking for duplicated ppas? every time i do an upgrade it checks for like 120 places... :p
[18:38] <jcastro> you could go clean up what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:40] <julio> well, 3.6 at last :D thanks for that, where sould i go to install spanish lang pack?
[18:40] <micahg> julio: no langpacks yet
[18:41] <micahg> unless you want to install the upstream one, but you have to remember to remove it later
[18:41] <julio> upstream?
[18:41] <micahg> from mozilla
[18:42] <julio> what is that?
[18:42] <micahg> mozilla is the maker of firefox
[18:43] <julio> sorry, question was for upstream :p
[18:43] <julio> what does it mean?
[18:43] <micahg> oh, upstream is mozilla
[18:43] <micahg> you install an .xpi from them
[18:43] <micahg> vs installing an ubuntu language pack
[18:43] <micahg> we don't have the language packs yet, they'll come later in the lucid cycle
[18:44] <julio> i've done that for my 3.5 when intalled
[18:44] <julio> thought it was normal
[18:44] <micahg> no, they normally come in the ubuntu language pack for releases
[18:45] <julio> where can i get the xpi?
[18:46]  * micahg is looking
[18:52]  * micahg is at a loss...
[18:52] <micahg> gavin: where can we find the upstream language packs?
[18:52] <julio> lol, san google?
[18:56] <gavin> for what version?
[18:56] <micahg> gavin: 3.6
[18:57] <gavin> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.2-l10n/
[18:58] <julio> :D the big G got me there a few secs ago
[18:58] <micahg> julio: ^^
[18:58] <julio> thanks
[18:58]  * micahg must be rusty on google fu
[19:00] <julio> fu?
[19:00] <micahg> julio: slang term...
[19:00] <julio> is the same as in script fu on gimp?
[19:00] <julio> i don't know what it means
[19:01] <micahg> julio: probable ;) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=google+fu
[19:01] <julio> well found an es-ar langpack but it says 3.6pre
[19:01] <julio> is that the one i'm looking for?
[19:02] <micahg> julio: it should be 3.6.1pre
[19:03] <julio> i skipped it as ff said 3.6, thought it was for a beta or so
[19:04] <micahg> asac_: we need to profile patch for profile migration :)
[19:32] <julio> micahg, well got it in spanish, thanks
[20:45] <Varnion> boas
[20:45] <Varnion> tenho problemas com flash
[20:45] <BUGabundo> english Varnion
[20:46] <Varnion> ah
[20:46] <Varnion> tao esuqce xD
[20:46] <BUGabundo> lol
[20:46] <BUGabundo> fta: where should flash 64bits .so be placed for Chromium to work ?
[20:50] <fta> usual plugin dirs
[20:51] <BUGabundo> fta: and where is that?
[20:51] <BUGabundo> I only know .mozilla/plugins
[20:52]  * micahg sees a lot of symlinks in flashplugin-installer
[20:53] <BUGabundo> yeah
[20:53] <BUGabundo> and wrapper is broken again in 64 bits
[20:53] <BUGabundo> just trying to help this user
[21:52] <asac_> micahg: profile patch for profile migration?
[21:52] <asac_> sounds wrong. we need to modify the startscript to properly migration
[21:52] <asac_> and need to copy the profile migration dialog
[21:52] <micahg> asac_: yeah from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird
[21:53] <asac_> we need to migration from .mozilla-thunderbird/... to .thunderbird by default
[21:53] <asac_> if user also has .thunderbird-3.0 we need to ask which one should be used
[21:53] <asac_> like we do for firefox
[21:53] <asac_> the profile migrator
[21:53] <asac_> its debian/migrator/main.c
[21:53] <asac_> in firefox-3.6.head
[21:53] <asac_> and its compiled in debian/rules
[21:53] <asac_> check that ... and put that into tbird too
[21:54] <asac_> of course adjust the text in the dialog ;)
[21:54] <micahg> asac_: k, I had to pull a new source tarball, I was ahving trouble with 3.0
[21:54] <asac_> ok. not sure why, but ok
[21:54] <asac_> sounds like you had some other issues ;)
[21:54] <asac_> but if you have a good one now its fine
[21:55] <micahg> I'm pulling 3.0.1
[21:55] <asac_> nah
[21:55] <asac_> please pull 3.0
[21:55] <asac_> thats what we started to do
[21:55] <asac_> we should finish that and then go for 3.0.1 after thats done
[21:55] <asac_> anyway. remember to push what you have EOD
[21:55] <asac_> i will continue it in case its not finished
[21:55] <micahg> asac_: I'm doing 3.0.1 now
[21:56] <asac_> does 3.0 work already?
[21:56] <asac_> please dont
[21:56] <micahg> I think the version file was messed up
[21:56] <asac_> fix 3.0
[21:57] <micahg> k, I'll pull a new 3.0 then
[21:57] <asac_> you still have the tarball from last time
[21:57] <micahg> somehow, I got 3.0.2 in my 3.0pre
[21:57] <asac_> keep using it
[21:57] <micahg> er, 3.0
[21:57] <asac_> the tarball isnt really important
[21:57] <micahg> k
[21:57] <asac_> any tarball created by dailies should be fine
[21:57] <asac_> just dont bump the changelog to something ahead of 3.0
[21:57] <micahg> I was getting an error with regards to libdir
[21:58] <asac_> new tarball is never an answer to such issues
[21:59] <micahg> k
[21:59] <asac_> just wastes time ;)
[22:02]  * micahg found it...
[22:02] <micahg> forgot to unversion something
[22:02] <micahg> asac_: the install dir should be unversioned, right?
[22:02] <asac_> right ;)
[22:02] <micahg> not like ff?
[22:02] <asac_> no
[22:02] <asac_> it should be versioned
[22:02] <micahg> ugh
[22:02] <asac_> no need to patch
[22:02] <asac_> upstream already does it
[22:03] <asac_> the right way
[22:04] <micahg> k, trying again
[22:05] <micahg> asac_: are we still installing stuff in /usr/share/thunderbird?
[22:05] <asac_> no
[22:05] <asac_> well i dont know
[22:05] <micahg> ah, ok, so that wasn't a bug
[22:05] <micahg> well
[22:05] <micahg> in 2.0 we did
[22:05] <asac_> what i know is that the thunderbird-3.0.install file
[22:05] <micahg> in the new package we don't
[22:05] <asac_> is good
[22:05] <asac_> just needs to be renamed
[22:05] <asac_> without content changes
[22:05] <micahg> k
[22:05] <asac_> e.g. still usr/lib/thunderbird-*/
[22:06] <asac_> yes
[22:06] <asac_> its intentional that we dont split stuff to /usr/share
[22:06] <asac_> thats a useless debian policy
[22:06] <micahg> so we don't even need the links file them
[22:06] <micahg> *then
[22:06] <asac_> if the links file only does that
[22:06] <asac_> then yes
[22:06] <asac_> imo the stuff we had in thunderbird-3.0.head was good
[22:06] <asac_> just the package names needed to be changed
[22:06] <asac_> to unversioned
[22:07] <micahg> k
[22:09] <micahg> asac_: we're not using system dictionaries?
[22:10] <asac_> we are using them
[22:10] <asac_> at least thats the idea
[22:10] <micahg> it's not symlinked
[22:10] <asac_> so yeah. thats probably one link
[22:10] <asac_> right
[22:10] <micahg> but it's in the install file
[22:10] <asac_> if its not in tbird-3.0.head before the rename
[22:10] <asac_> dont bother
[22:10] <asac_> we can do that after teh upload
[22:10] <micahg> k
[22:10] <asac_> first lets get it to state we had dailies, just renamed
[22:11] <micahg> k
[22:12] <joelinux> micahg: you there
[22:12] <micahg> joelinux: yep
[22:12] <micahg> asac_: I think I almost got it
[22:13] <joelinux> Is there a way I can copy my +junk branch over to seamonkey ? I get "is not compatible with" when I try and push from the branch I checked out
[22:14] <micahg> idk
[22:14] <joelinux> :-)
[22:14] <micahg> asac_: if I've been using debuild -nc to test, how do I make it do a clean build?
[22:14]  * micahg thinks he goofed on upstream dir
[22:14] <micahg> it's fixed now
[22:14] <micahg> but I think I have to do a rebuild
[22:16] <asac_> micahg: why do you want a full rebuild?
[22:16] <asac_> a full rebuild always costs lots of time so better try to do an incremental and only when you think its all ok, do a full rebuild to test everything
[22:16] <micahg> I didn't have the upstream dir versioned die to the patch
[22:16] <asac_> (saves lots of time)
[22:16] <micahg> I dropped the patch
[22:16] <asac_> micahg: ah ... ok
[22:16] <micahg> I know it's been saving me time
[22:17] <micahg> I think this might be the last thing
[22:17] <asac_> so you dropped the patch ... then you can try to remove the debian/stamp-*make* file
[22:17] <asac_> in that way debuilc -nc runs a full make on the tree
[22:17] <asac_> bjut doesnt rebuild everything
[22:17] <micahg> ah, k
[22:17] <asac_> just those files changed
[22:17] <asac_> sometimes there is no good way, but first try
[22:17] <asac_> if that doesnt help you need a ful lrebuild
[22:18] <micahg> asac_: should the bug to upload TB3 go at the top with the upstream bugs fixed?
[22:19] <micahg> or under my name?
[22:22] <micahg> asac_: is there a way to depatch, repatch without a full rebuild?
[22:23]  * micahg thinks he figured it out
[22:23] <micahg> asac_: if I remove stamp-patched will it repatch?
[22:28] <asac_> micahg: not repatch, but patch
[22:28] <asac_> at best dont do that
[22:28] <asac_> you can use quilt in the build-tree
[22:28] <asac_> to get the tree in the state you want
[22:28]  * micahg found it, yep that's what I did
[22:28] <asac_> just ensure that make stamp is dont
[22:28] <micahg> dont?
[22:29] <asac_> is not existing
[22:29] <asac_> you can even run make in the build-tree
[22:29] <asac_> and then just debuild -nc
[22:29] <micahg> k, think I got it now
[22:29]  * micahg is learning :)
[22:29] <asac_> heh
[22:29] <asac_> great
[22:29] <micahg> still had the old patch applied
[22:30] <asac_> yeah
[22:30] <asac_> ;)
[22:31] <micahg> good new is tb3 branch hasn't broken any of our packaging since release...otherwise I'd be in trouble using 3.0.2pre to test this
[22:32] <micahg> ugh
[22:33] <micahg> something's still not right
[22:34] <asac_> what happens?
[22:34] <micahg> it's still doing make install unversioned
[22:37] <asac_> micahg: how did the patch look like that you dropped?
[22:38] <asac_> if that touched a Makefile.in and the Makefile doesnt get updated for some reason, just run ./config.status
[22:38] <asac_> then make
[22:38] <asac_> and make install DESTDIR=/tmp/test
[22:38] <asac_> to see whats going on
[22:38] <asac_> ;)
[22:38] <micahg> http://pastebin.com/f71bb275d
[22:39] <asac_> so yeah... autoconf.mk.in probably doesnt trigger an update of the autoconf.mk
[22:39] <asac_> so run ./config.status
[22:39] <asac_> ensure that you see that autoconf.mk gets generated
[22:39] <asac_> same for mozilla.in
[22:39] <micahg> I see autoconf.mk recreated
[22:40] <micahg> I don't see mozilla.in
[22:41] <micahg> or rather I don't see it regenerated
[22:41] <micahg> ./config.status doesn't do anything in the mozilla dir
[22:42] <micahg> asac_: ^^
[22:46] <asac_> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362228/
[22:46] <asac_> thats what happens in a ffox tree
[22:47] <asac_> i am really sure same happens in tbird tree
[22:47] <asac_> oh ... there might be two config.status
[22:47] <micahg> k, that's what I got
[22:47] <asac_> e.g. you might need to cd in the mozilla dir and there is another config.status
[22:47] <micahg> no mozilla.in
[22:47] <micahg> ah :)
[22:47] <asac_> tbird basically has the full xulrunner/ffox tree nested inside
[22:48] <asac_> so you have mozilla/mozilla/ ;)
[22:48] <asac_> or am i wrong?
[22:48] <micahg> well, make is rerunning
[22:48] <asac_> top mozilla is comm-central ... nested one is mozilla-central
[22:48] <micahg> yep
[22:48] <micahg> or in our case comm-191 and moz-191
[22:49] <asac_> micahg: yeah. just double check that the make really goes in the nested mozilla
[22:49] <asac_> maybe the use a hand crafted stamp mechanism to not rebuild full mozilla/ nested
[22:49] <asac_> but i hope now
[22:49] <asac_> not
[22:50] <micahg> heh
[22:50] <micahg> seems to work now, let me try debuild -nc
[22:50] <asac_> good
[22:50] <asac_> yeah
[22:50] <asac_> probably is good now
[22:50] <asac_> well done
[22:51] <asac_> ;)
[22:51]  * micahg hopes there are no more issues with the build...
[22:51] <micahg> :) got further than last time
[22:52] <micahg> cp: not writing through dangling symlink `debian/thunderbird/usr/share/pixmaps/thunderbird.png'
[22:52] <micahg> ?
[22:53] <micahg> heh, double link...
[22:53] <asac_> not sure
[22:53] <asac_> feels like messy link
[22:53] <asac_> right
[22:53] <micahg> it was trying to link from /u/s/tb
[22:53] <asac_> from or to?
[22:53] <asac_> /usr/share?
[22:53] <micahg> from
[22:53] <asac_> thought we dont have there anything
[22:54] <asac_> wasnt that the idea? just /usr/lib
[22:54] <micahg> yeah, I'll fix the links file to link properly
[22:54] <asac_> right
[22:54]  * micahg missed it
[22:54] <asac_> debuild -nc should work for tha
[22:54] <asac_> t
[22:55] <asac_> so ... when all that works what usually helps to get this all digested is to safe the stuff that worked and think about how you can split up the work in multiple steps
[22:56] <asac_> so you can commit them one by one
[22:56] <asac_> in that way you reflect on the process of doing it and next time you can use that as a blueprint to predict the process for a different change you want to od ;)
[22:57] <asac_> but guess you will figure ;)
[22:57] <asac_> fg
[22:57] <asac_> oops
[22:59] <micahg> asac_: do we still need the mozilla-thunderbird binary symlink?
[23:01] <micahg> heh, the icon isn't there
[23:02] <micahg> that's the issue
[23:02] <micahg> 64 pixel isn't there, what should I install?
[23:04] <micahg> nm
[23:06] <asac_> yes, lets keep the symlink for binary
[23:08]  * micahg was installing the file over a link :(
[23:11] <micahg> I got a lot of shlibs:depends warnings
[23:13] <micahg> asac_: also, which copyright file should be used the original or fta's
[23:13] <micahg> asac_: I have the deb packages :)
[23:18] <micahg> asac_: should I risk installing my .deb package?
[23:19] <asac_> micahg: good idea is to check the content ... you can run a find debian/PACKAGENAME
[23:19] <asac_> to see what it would look like
[23:19]  * micahg is backing up my tb3 profile
[23:19] <asac_> thats usually a good idea too
[23:20] <asac_> if you have a .mozilla-thunderbird back that up too
[23:20] <micahg> hmm
[23:20] <micahg> still a little goofy
[23:21] <micahg> do I still need to link these libs: http://pastebin.com/fc643d0e
[23:22] <asac_> that looks wrong
[23:23] <asac_> do we create those links?
[23:23] <micahg> that should be in the thunderbird dir
[23:23] <micahg> it was from tb2
[23:23] <asac_> those we dont need
[23:23] <micahg> maybe I should try without that file
[23:24] <asac_> imo we really just needed what was in tb3 branch
[23:24] <asac_> stuff like copyright etc. might be better in tb2
[23:24] <asac_> but the general packaging was ok afaik
[23:24] <micahg> yeah, I was going to ask about the copyright file
[23:24] <micahg> you have one from 2003 and fta has one from when he made tb3 branch
[23:25] <asac_> the 3.0 one looks quite ok
[23:25] <micahg> k
[23:26] <fta> what are you trying to do?
[23:26] <micahg> make tb3 release
[23:26] <fta> isn't my branch ok as it is? i mean + the profile migration stuff from ff?
[23:27] <fta> why reuse anything from tb2 at all?
[23:27] <micahg> missing man page and a couple of other things
[23:27] <fta> it should be easy to cherry picj
[23:27] <fta> k
[23:27] <micahg> yep
[23:27] <asac_> its all fine
[23:27] <micahg> that's what I did
[23:27] <asac_> just flashing out the details
[23:27] <asac_> and the rename of packages before the upload
[23:28] <micahg> there's this line in the copyright: EDIT: downloaded from CVS (until 3.0 is released) using the following commands:
[23:28] <micahg>    debian/rules get-orig-source (you need to install mozilla-devscripts >= 0.05)
[23:28] <asac_> remove the until bracket stuff
[23:28] <asac_> and say "to get latest upstream snapshot, ..."
[23:29] <asac_> "get latest upstream snapshot from CVS using ...
[23:29] <asac_> "
[23:29] <asac_> maybe do another paragraph
[23:29] <micahg> I'm assuming s/CVS/HG
[23:30] <asac_> "get a specific tag by using ... get-orig-source DEBIAN_TAG=THUNDERBIRD_VERSION_tag=version"
[23:30] <asac_> yeah hg
[23:30] <asac_> it is
[23:30] <asac_> and drop the minimum m-devscripts version
[23:30] <asac_> unless we know whats the real minimum required for hg
[23:30] <asac_> maybe just say: "needs a recent mozilla-devscripts"
[23:31] <asac_> anyway. those are details ;) ... first check that everything works
[23:31] <asac_> :-P
[23:31]  * micahg hopes he doesn't blow up his system :0
[23:31] <asac_> so if find debian/thunderbird looks ok
[23:31] <asac_> just install the package
[23:31] <asac_> nah ;)
[23:31] <asac_> unlikely
[23:32] <asac_> unless you have stuff in postinst that rm -rf /
[23:32] <asac_>  ;)
[23:32] <asac_> micahg: commit stuff ;)
[23:32] <asac_> pus to a private branch
[23:32] <asac_> in that way you dont loose your work if you trashh everything
[23:32] <micahg> I meant my TB stuff
[23:32] <micahg> I backed it up
[23:32] <asac_> not that i would think it happens
[23:32] <asac_> ah
[23:32] <asac_> seems safe
[23:33] <asac_> if you backup profile
[23:33] <micahg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/362245/
[23:33] <micahg> I have to run out for about an hour
[23:33] <asac_> k
[23:33] <micahg> I would assume I should add a conflicts for that package?
[23:33] <asac_> yes thats a bug in thunderbird-locale-en-gb
[23:33] <asac_> remove that package for now
[23:34] <asac_> and file a bug bug against that langpack
[23:35] <micahg> enigmail also conflicts
[23:35] <asac_> yes. thats a bug too somewhat
[23:35] <asac_> but enigmail needs to be fixed anyway
[23:35] <asac_> for this
[23:35] <micahg> yep
[23:35] <asac_> so remove it for now
[23:35] <asac_> and file a bug against enigmail ;)
[23:35] <asac_> "enigmail not ready for tb3"
[23:35] <asac_> or something
[23:36] <micahg> nah, there's already a bug to update
[23:36] <asac_> good
[23:36] <asac_> just ensure its there and when tbird enters the archive
[23:36] <asac_> that should become RC
[23:36] <micahg> well, it installed ok, but as shredder
[23:36] <asac_> e.g. targetted for lucid and milestoned for beta or something
[23:36] <micahg> because I was using 3.0.2pre
[23:37] <asac_> yes thats fine
[23:37] <asac_> so try a build with the 3.0 tarball you hopefully have still ;)
[23:37] <asac_> test tbird a bit and see if all is fine
[23:37]  * asac_ wonders if the builders already built the hardy etc. firefox-stable
[23:38] <asac_> nope
[23:38] <asac_> lol i3863 650 jobs (28 hours)
[23:38] <asac_> see there are no mozilla/chromium or other dailies on the current i386 builders
[23:39] <asac_> seems its not just us ;
[23:39] <asac_> )
[23:39] <asac_> busting the builder
[23:39] <asac_> s
[23:39] <micahg> k asac, trying again with 3.0 tarball, bbiab
[23:39] <asac_> great
[23:43] <asac> i think i have to close irssi ;) bad state