[00:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #511743 in ntp (main) "typo in ntpdate manpage (patch included)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511743
[00:47] <erichammond> PatrickDK: If your end goal is using EC2, then I'd recommend using EC2 from the start.  You skip a big Eucalyptus learning curve which is not necessary for using EC2 and you avoid various Eucalyptus-specific issues and incompatibilities.  They keep getting fixed and a lot of progress is being made, but I think your life would be simpler not getting into it if you don't have to.  EC2 is pretty cheap to fool around with if you don't l
[01:18] <MTecknology> Any idea how I can stop these messages from winding up in /var/mail/michael ?
[01:18] <MTecknology> not there - but just not generated
[01:20] <jpds> MTecknology: Cron messages?
[01:20] <MTecknology> ya
[01:20] <MTecknology> I know I can set MAILTO="" in crontab; but I do want messages from some of them
[01:20] <jpds> Pipe the ones you don't want to /dev/null
[01:21] <MTecknology> pipe or redirect?
[01:22] <jpds> The latter.
[01:22] <MTecknology> so this? @daily /home/michael/.bin/sync-logs 2>&1 > /dev/null
[01:22] <MTecknology> or do I not need the 2>&1 anymore?
[01:23] <jpds> Shouldn't be necessary.
[01:24] <MTecknology> ok, thanks :)
[01:27] <PatrickDK> erichammond, hmm, I was estimating costs, and it looked like around 2k for 2 days
[01:28] <PatrickDK> and if I scaled ec2 up to a development + testing time of 1week, heh
[01:31] <MTecknology> PatrickDK: what's that for?
[01:31] <PatrickDK> to mirror a production envioment, so it can stay live, while the physical infrastructure is moved
[01:35] <MTecknology> fun..
[04:31] <usrv> what's the best way to encrypt a raid that will just be used for storage under ubuntu server?
[07:44] <erichammond> usrv: I'm not sure about "best", but I use cryptsetup with LUKS.  Once I find something that works, I tend to stick with it, so I'm probably a few years behind the hottest new encryption setup.
[07:45] <erichammond> usrv: This won't apply directly to every situation and you should understand every aspect of the tools you are using when security is at stake, but it might give you some pointers to follow: http://alestic.com/2009/10/ec2-disk-encryption
[07:47] <erichammond> usrv: If you're talking "server" there is a big question about where you store your decryption key and if you need to re-enter it manually on a reboot.
[09:00] <sabgenton> !network install
[09:01] <sabgenton> I want to install sever over the netowork as  you can make a usbstick of ubuntu-server
[09:01] <sabgenton> !tcp install
[10:07] <wortbit> It it possible to run instances on the uec clc?
[11:25] <cHarNe2> hi guys, dont know if am at the right place, but ill give it a shot,
[11:25] <cHarNe2> i got a ubuntu server at witch i am using as file-server etc.
[11:26] <cHarNe2> and im doing a _lot_ mv, rm, rar, you name it. but i want to make this easier.
[11:27] <cHarNe2> i want to make C-w erase untill '/' or ' ', not just ' '.
[11:27] <cHarNe2> how or where do i fix this?
[11:59] <dayo> how do i undo the rules i've added to iptables from this tutorial and then restart iptables? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html
[12:09] <dayo> how do i restart iptables in ubuntu? `/etc/init.d/iptables restart` doesn't work.
[12:15] <mealstrom> check iptables-save iptables-restore
[12:15] <mealstrom> and iptables-apply
[12:26] <DrNick_> does anyone know what happened to ubuntu server on Sun hardware? I'm assuming that idea kinna died a death...
[12:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #511888 in samba (main) "Samba Panic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511888
[12:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #511893 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "install of mysql-server-5.0 fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511893
[12:51] <au> hm, I am running ubuntu 9.10 server with apache and it appears to ignore my server tokens that I have put in the apache2.conf, is this normal?
[12:55] <au> I have ServerSignature On
[12:55] <au> and ServerTokens Prod
[12:55] <au> in apache2.conf but it still says Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu) Server at 10.0.0.3 Port 80 -- I have restarted Apache, still the same
[15:00] <wortbit> Is it possible to run isntances on the same machine that runs e.g. the clc?
[17:51] <ckontros> With "unattended-upgrades" is "Ubuntu karmic-main"; a proper "Allowed-Origins"
[17:51] <ckontros> ?
[18:36] <wortbit> Is it possible to run the node software/instances on the same machine that runs the cluster controller?
[18:47] <jpds> ckontros: No.
[18:48] <jpds> ckontros: Just "Ubuntu karmic-updates"; - should do it.
[19:12] <ckontros> jpds: That should get me any updates from main,universe and so on? I also want to add a PPA. What should the formatting be like for them?
[19:13] <jpds> ckontros: All in your sources.list, yeah.
[19:13] <jpds> Never have used it for a PPA though.
[19:13] <ckontros> jpds: Even an enabled PPA? Neat.
[19:13] <ckontros> Oh
[20:01] <resno> whats the best way method of databack up on a home server.
[20:17] <jMyles> I'm running ubuntu-server as a gateway / router with two NICs.  It's working great, but I think some traffic is being blocked by iptables that I don't want blocked.  I am logging it and tailing the log, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at.  For example, I'm running wifidog (a captive portal auth and gateway) and it is supposed to ping clients once a minute.  However, the pings are not arriving.
[20:25] <MTecknology> Anyone know offhand a directory I can't use ls on if I'm not root?
[20:25] <guntbert> MTecknology: what do you want to test?
[20:26] <MTecknology> guntbert: I'm trying to show the difference between root and not root to a user - I'm trying to explain what sudo does
[20:27] <guntbert> MTecknology: well you could/should set the permissions for /root to 700 - or you try to cat /etc/shadow
[20:28] <MTecknology> I found one - /etc/ssl/private
[20:28] <MTecknology> guntbert: thanks
[20:29] <guntbert> MTecknology: you're welcome :-)
[20:29] <MTecknology> I always seem to need to type my password in twice to do anything :S
[21:11] <jMyles> I have some questions about iptables - can I send my iptables -L -v to somebody and ask some questions?
[21:15] <guntbert> jMyles: in any case (I cannot assist at the moment) you could !pastebin it
[21:15] <guntbert> !pastebin
[21:16] <jMyles> guntbert, yeah, I'm hoping somebody can work with me one-on-one for a little while and help me firmly grasp what I'm looking at.
[21:18] <jMyles> btw, I just started using pastebinit - what an awesome little piece of software!
[21:19] <guntbert> isn't it?
[21:45] <Tobi_2> hey guys, have a question to server networking. have in my intranet some devices with static ip adresses in a specified subnet. is it possible to handle 2 subnets with one network interface (eth0)
[21:45] <Tobi_2> hope you can help me
[21:46] <sub> yes, using an alias/sub-interface
[21:46] <Tobi_2> is there an article in man or web?
[21:51] <Tobi_2> i tryed with iface eth0:1 inet static address 196.168.0.1..stuff but ifconfig only shows the direct eth0 configuration - and i can't ping devices in this 196... subnet
[21:54] <sub> try starting with eth0:0
[22:52] <Bizzeh> is it possible with ubuntu server to set up your own cloud?
[22:55] <andol> Bizzeh: Actually, that is *possible* with pretty much any operating system. That said, using ubuntu server might give you a few more building blocks in place.
[23:17] <DrNick_> there's loads of cloudy stuff up on the ubuntu website about it at the moment.  you get the impression they seem to rather like the idea.
[23:24] <internalkernel> Does anyone have any good online references for setting up Quotas in Dovecot referencing mysql? (Ubu 9.10, Dovecot 1.1, postfixadmin)
[23:24] <internalkernel> I've read http://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/1.1 over and over and over... to no avail
[23:24] <internalkernel> and google produces a lot of garbage that brings me back to that page...