| Takyoji | Stupid question: Would an SD card supposedly be faster (in terms of reading) in comparison to a 4200 RPM harddrive? | 01:10 |
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| Takyoji | I can't find any definite number that SD cards typically are used at. | 01:11 |
| _diablo | Takyoji, sd will almost for sure be faster at reading, but it depends on a ton. Also, it depends on other stuff like whether you need burst data or long reads. | 01:12 |
| _diablo | and do you mean sd card or ssd? | 01:12 |
| Takyoji | Because I'm thinking in terms of an OS installation | 01:12 |
| Takyoji | SD card | 01:12 |
| Takyoji | (for the time being) | 01:12 |
| _diablo | oh. It will probably be faster | 01:14 |
| _diablo | but it might also depend on brand and other stuff | 01:14 |
| _diablo | I would try it. | 01:14 |
| _diablo | it will probably be faster. | 01:14 |
| Takyoji | Because I got a somewhat older laptop handed down to me, which already dual-boots XP and Ubuntu (but 9.04 I think) | 01:15 |
| Takyoji | and was considering if I should get an SSD, or just work along the lines of an SD card or USB for the OS, and the harddrive for large storage. | 01:15 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: most SD cards read at a max of 15MB/s, with more expensive ones going up to 30MB/s. | 01:18 |
| _diablo | eh, if it's an old computer, the HDD is probably not your limiting factor. It's probably CPU or RAM so it won't matter too much. | 01:18 |
| tonyyarusso | Oh please - it would have to be like circa 1994 for the CPU to be the limiter. | 01:19 |
| Takyoji | What would be a typical size of an Ubuntu installation? | 01:21 |
| Takyoji | ~2GB, or? | 01:22 |
| _diablo | tonyyarusso, it depends on what you're doing. | 01:22 |
| Takyoji | I'm simply talking in terms of boot performance | 01:22 |
| _diablo | ah, right, oops | 01:23 |
| Takyoji | Boot performance and perhaps time taken to open applications | 01:23 |
| Takyoji | I don't mind how long it takes a thing to save, or for a document to be read necessarily | 01:23 |
| Takyoji | 9.04 is about 2.3GB installed | 01:28 |
| Takyoji | Referencing from: http://www.tuxradar.com/files/ubuntu_vs_7-3.png | 01:29 |
| mr_steve | Takyoji: if you try it, let me know how it goes... | 01:33 |
| mr_steve | I was considering Ubuntu on an SD card for my netbook, to avoid spinning the HD when I don't need to | 01:33 |
| _diablo | same here | 01:34 |
| _diablo | mr_steve, when do you want to start ubuntu hour? | 01:34 |
| Takyoji | I think I might try just grabbing an small high-speed SD card as well for testing. But perhaps, I could test between the two, to see if it's any different for my system (like if the reader only works at a certain speed) | 01:34 |
| mr_steve | _diablo: I'm starting to figure out my routine a bit more now, so I'm thinking maybe this coming friday | 01:35 |
| mr_steve | There's a new variable now though apparently I've started having anxiety attacks. Yay. | 01:35 |
| mr_steve | at any rate I'm going to start looking for a decent coffeeshop close to MCTC to hold it at | 01:37 |
| _diablo | mr_steve, ouch. okay, yeah, keep me in the loop | 01:38 |
| Takyoji | Ooo, the Firefox Personas are quite nice | 01:45 |
| Takyoji | When it originally came out as a plugin there was barely much available | 01:46 |
| Takyoji | Now it's like the next best thing, beyond desktop wallpapers | 01:49 |
| * tonyyarusso doesn't see the point | 02:06 | |
| Takyoji | It's just a simple customization; it's not too obtrusive either | 02:07 |
| tonyyarusso | It's just another application - why do you need it to have star trek logos scattered about? | 02:07 |
| _diablo | haha | 02:07 |
| _diablo | it's pretty | 02:07 |
| _diablo | same reason why I like compiz | 02:07 |
| Takyoji | It's built into the GUI system of Firefox 3.6. :P | 02:07 |
| Takyoji | So it's not necessarily a whole separate entity | 02:08 |
| Takyoji | That is very awkward | 02:57 |
| _diablo | what? | 02:58 |
| Takyoji | Apparently I'm installing a Java update, and it's offering a Bing Toolbar for Internet Explorer.. | 02:58 |
| _diablo | LOL | 02:58 |
| Takyoji | Due to my current lack of a 4GB SD card (that isn't of someone else's), and to the worry that a 4GB SD card might not work on the system (due to the delay until SDHC was really used) | 04:21 |
| Takyoji | I think I'll try a 4GB flash drive | 04:21 |
| Takyoji | USB flash drive | 04:21 |
| Takyoji | The only thing I worry of is that it might install the bootloader to the USB flash drive | 04:22 |
| Takyoji | and at the same time, USB might be a bit slow | 04:23 |
| Takyoji | Thoughts? | 04:24 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah, it will be super slow | 04:25 |
| Alpha_Cluster | not ture | 04:25 |
| Alpha_Cluster | it depends on if its a usb2 port and how fast the ram in the usb drive is | 04:25 |
| tonyyarusso | I've never seen a USB flash drive with a decent speed of the actual flash. | 04:26 |
| Alpha_Cluster | really my corsair flash voyager has pretty awesome speeds | 04:27 |
| Takyoji | The optimal speed of USB 2 is 480Mb/s | 04:28 |
| Takyoji | (60MB/s) | 04:28 |
| tonyyarusso | s/optimal/theoretical maximum raw/ | 04:29 |
| tonyyarusso | Meaning your best bet for actual data transfer is more like 30MB/s | 04:29 |
| Alpha_Cluster | yep i get about 40 with my good flash drive | 04:31 |
| Alpha_Cluster | most flash drives use cheap ram and so they normally get up to maybe 30 on a good day | 04:31 |
| Alpha_Cluster | if you buy a drive though from the enthusist ram companies they tend to be less skimpy and get 40-50 | 04:32 |
| Alpha_Cluster | i cant wait for usb 3.0 to become big | 04:32 |
| Alpha_Cluster | it will force flash drives to use good ram :) | 04:32 |
| Takyoji | NAND* | 04:33 |
| Alpha_Cluster | true its NAND >.< i always just call it ram cause i forget the name | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | I need an Ubuntu sticker for this laptop... | 04:38 |
| Alpha_Cluster | lol i feel bad i dont have any computers running ubuntu rigth now >.< | 04:39 |
| Takyoji | My whole house runs Ubuntu! | 04:40 |
| Takyoji | :P | 04:40 |
| Alpha_Cluster | >.< i got a macbook pro and a desktop that has a new ati 5770 so i cannot really run it very well | 04:40 |
| Alpha_Cluster | i got VMs though that i run it on | 04:41 |
| Takyoji | Geez, you're such a disgrace to our cult! :P | 04:41 |
| Alpha_Cluster | lol | 04:41 |
| Takyoji | I think it would run fine on a Macbook Pro though | 04:41 |
| Alpha_Cluster | hey i would run it on this computer if i could | 04:41 |
| Alpha_Cluster | no sound on the Mac | 04:42 |
| Alpha_Cluster | on this computer the ATI drivers dont allow it to play videos | 04:42 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 04:42 |
| Alpha_Cluster | yeah sadly OSX works to well also for me to want to replace it | 04:43 |
| Alpha_Cluster | and Windows 7 works better right now for this computer >.< | 04:43 |
| Takyoji | Anyone have thoughts on http://helpmysql.org/en/theissue/customerspaythebill ? | 04:58 |
| Takyoji | Apparently Web of Trust is advocating it | 05:03 |
| Takyoji | (the petition) | 05:03 |
| Takyoji | Hah, this boot performance is slower than a crawl | 05:19 |
| Takyoji | It's probably only USB 1 ports | 05:19 |
| Takyoji | Just loading GRUB was like several minutes | 05:19 |
| Takyoji | 50 seconds from GRUB to the login screen using this USB drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220251&cm_re=patriot_4GB-_-20-220-251-_-Product on a HP Pavilion DV1000 laptop | 05:21 |
| Takyoji | Is it considerably wrong that wireless service works fine; but identifies as eth1? | 06:49 |
| tonyyarusso | not at all | 06:52 |
| tonyyarusso | my thinkpad does the same, always has | 06:53 |
| Takyoji | Apparently my desktop, which is connected directly by Ethernet claims an internet speed of 11Mbps, while the laptop claims 0.5Mbps | 08:08 |
| Takyoji | However the upload speed was at about the same as it was for the desktop | 08:09 |
| Takyoji | Based upon testing with the use of speedtest.net, and the Milwaukee, WI server | 08:10 |
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