[00:00] <daskreech> Yep
[00:01] <shadeslayer> daskreech: meh... thatll take a day or two :(
[00:01] <daskreech> shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~neversfelde/+archive/experimental
[00:01] <shadeslayer> daskreech: yeah i know about that :)
[00:01] <shadeslayer> but i didnt want to package git...
[00:05] <daskreech> :-)
[00:06] <daskreech> You have 64 bit choqok?
[00:07] <shadeslayer> daskreech: i compiled it
[00:07] <daskreech> ok
[00:10] <daskreech> GinoMan__: can You jump into #kwin ?
[00:10] <GinoMan__> /join #kwin ?
[00:10] <GinoMan__> yes
[00:10] <daskreech> GinoMan__: Yes
[00:19] <GinoMan__> may be dumb to say, but I'm here... now what?
[00:21] <shadeslayer> GinoMan__: which client?
[00:21] <GinoMan__> client?
[00:22] <daskreech> GinoMan__: maybe KDE 4.4 ?
[00:22] <shadeslayer> daskreech: whats going on?
[00:22] <daskreech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/362248/ <--- shadeslayer
[00:23] <GinoMan__> oh... KDE is 4.3.2
[00:24] <daskreech> I know I was asking maybe you wanted to upgrade to a newer KDE ?
[00:24] <daskreech> KDE 4.3.4 or KDE 4.4
[00:26] <GinoMan__> that may help
[00:26] <daskreech> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/126
[00:27] <daskreech> GinoMan__: ^^^
[00:28]  * GinoMan__ loves sudo !!
[00:28] <GinoMan__> I feel like I'm telling the computer "SUDO STUPID!!!!"
[00:28] <daskreech> :-D
[00:30]  * GinoMan__ is full-upgrade-ing
[00:31]  * GinoMan__ waits 13 minutes for it to finish
[00:31]  * GinoMan__ downloads
[00:38] <GinoMan__> hey, is there any cool feature additions between 4.3.2 and 4.3.4
[00:38] <GinoMan__> ?
[00:38] <daskreech> GinoMan__: and usual logout then press alt+E on the login screen and relogin
[00:38] <GinoMan__> alt E?
[00:38] <daskreech> no features for a minor bump
[00:38] <daskreech> it's a bugfix release
[00:39] <daskreech> alt+E restarts X
[00:39] <GinoMan__> I thought it was control alt bksp
[00:44] <GinoMan__> almost done
[00:46] <GinoMan__> hey... can kopete do irc yet?
[00:50] <GinoMan> still crashing
[00:51] <daskreech> GinoMan: same error
[00:52] <GinoMan> yes
[00:55] <GinoMan> i don't know if I said this but it started after I did all the updates after installing from the CD
[00:55] <daskreech> The error doesn't come up anywhere on the net either :(
[00:55] <GinoMan> hmmm
[00:56] <GinoMan> the crash handler says there's a problem with the libGL
[00:56] <daskreech> GinoMan: so you are surviving without kwin or you have another window manager?
[00:56] <GinoMan> metacity
[00:56] <GinoMan> which was ugly until I installed gnome and xfce
[00:57] <daskreech> ok
[01:02] <GinoMan> what about the graphics driver not wanting to install properly
[01:05] <daskreech> GinoMan: whatls it doing?
[01:05] <GinoMan> it's the ati driver
[01:06] <GinoMan> there's no option for making karmic packages
[01:06] <GinoMan> so I had to make jaunty packages
[01:07] <daskreech> !ati
[01:08] <GinoMan> I've been to that page
[01:09] <GinoMan> the problem is that I create the driver using "aptitude install fglrx-kernel-source" and it says that everything works fine and that everything installs
[01:09] <GinoMan> but when I run "lsmod | grep fglrx" I get nothing
[01:10] <GinoMan> if I "modprobe fglrx" I get an error
[01:11] <daskreech> GinoMan: sudo depmod
[01:11] <GinoMan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[01:11] <GinoMan> if I modprobe
[01:12] <GinoMan> there was no output to depmod
[01:12] <daskreech> do you have ati or some such loade?
[01:12] <daskreech> loaded?
[01:13] <GinoMan> ati_agp                 6760  0
[01:13] <GinoMan> agpgart                34988  1 ati_agp
[01:13] <GinoMan> lsmod | grep ati
[01:15] <daskreech> ahmmm
[01:15] <daskreech> not sure if that's the driver
[01:16] <GinoMan> I removed the
[01:16] <GinoMan> them*
[01:16] <GinoMan> rmmod
[01:16] <GinoMan> graphics did not change at all
[01:17] <daskreech> modprobe fglrx
[01:22] <GinoMan> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[01:23] <daskreech> uname -r
[01:24] <GinoMan> hold on
[01:24] <GinoMan> brb
[01:24] <GinoMan> I'm gonna restart in 2.6.31.17
[01:25] <xero> can someone tell me why operation is not permitable .. sudo chown xero:xero /media/storage
[01:26] <crimsun> xero: you probably want uid=, gid=, and/or umask= instead.
[01:26] <xero> its fat32
[01:27] <crimsun> right, see above.
[01:28] <GinoMan_> how do I set kdm as the default display manager?
[01:28] <xero> tryed that
[01:28] <GinoMan_> ok
[01:28] <GinoMan_> brb
[01:29] <GinoMan_> oh... kwin crashed on bootup again
[01:29] <xero> they dont work and what shoulid i put after the = and do i type -o aswell?
[01:29] <xero> like sudo chown xero:xero /media/Storage -o uid= ????????????????
[01:29] <xero> i someone culd help me with this it would be verry apreciated its a fat 32 drive so im not sure
[01:30] <xero> what command will make me read wright to it
[01:30] <xero> its a /dev/sda6
[01:31] <xero> anyone know of a partition maniger for linux? kinda like partition magic?
[01:31] <xero> maby ill just make it a ext 4 filesystem instead
[01:31] <scunizi> xero: it's called "partitionmanager"  ..
[01:31] <xero> thankyou
[01:31] <xero> sudo apt-get install partitionmanger?
[01:31] <scunizi> xero: will you be sharing this drive with a windows machine?
[01:31] <xero> yes
[01:31] <xero> prefreably
[01:32] <xero> thats why i made it fat 32
[01:32] <scunizi> then don't make it ext4.. make it ext3
[01:32] <xero> couldent pick nfts from the linux menu
[01:32] <scunizi> there are drivers for windows and ext3
[01:32] <xero> ext 3 shows up in windows?
[01:32] <xero> aww ic ic
[01:32] <xero> ok
[01:34] <GinoMan_> why don't people make ext4, xfs, jfs, etc drivers for windows?
[01:34] <GinoMan_> I mean, if you have the source code for the linux driver, shouldn't it be a simple task of porting the driver to windows?
[01:34] <crimsun> xero: those are mount(8) options, not chown(1) options
[01:35] <scunizi> ext3 has been around for quite some time and the driver works but occationally has quirks.
[01:35] <xero> yeah i know
[01:35] <xero> i just want to be able to read wright to my fat 32
[01:35] <xero> but it keeps saying i dont have permission
[01:35] <xero> when i try chown it
[01:35] <xero> so i wana format it with partition manager but partition manager wont let me do anything how i run it in administrator mode
[01:36] <xero> linux is confuseing sometimes :(
[01:36] <xero> i shoulodent have to change ownership when im on my admin account
[01:37] <crimsun> xero: you're approaching it from the wrong angle fundamentally. It isn't a chown(1) issue; it's a mount(8) issue.
[01:37] <xero> but its mounted
[01:37] <xero> and i used the mounting manager and took read only off
[01:37] <xero> and remounted it
[01:37] <xero> what could i be missing?
[01:37] <crimsun> what mount options were used?
[01:38] <daskreech> GinoMan_: They do
[01:38] <xero> i dunno lol just the ones that prevent me from reading and wrighting
[01:38] <xero> want me to pastebin a screenshot?
[01:38] <xero> of my editor?
[01:38] <crimsun> xero: grep ntfs /proc/mounts
[01:38] <GinoMan_> hmmm
[01:38] <xero> nothing happen
[01:38] <xero> crimsun
[01:39] <crimsun> xero: sorry, grep vfat /proc/mounts
[01:39] <xero> /dev/sda6 /media/Storage vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[01:39] <xero> xero@Lxt9-i386:/media/Storage$
[01:39] <omar> hola
[01:40] <crimsun> xero: is that from fstab(5)?
[01:40] <xero> thats what came up
[01:40] <xero> when i typed grep vfat
[01:40] <gabinoobie> quelq'un parle franÃ§ais ds le coin ?
[01:40] <crimsun> xero: yes, those are the /active/ options, but the options are given somewhere. I'm asking whether they're specified in /etc/fstab.
[01:40] <omar> alguien habla espaÃ±ol
[01:41] <xero> dunno
[01:41] <xero> what do u want me to do sire
[01:41] <crimsun> xero: so look in /etc/fstab.
[01:41] <omar> alguien habla espaÃ±ol??
[01:41] <crimsun> omar: #ubuntu-es, por favor
[01:41] <xero> kk
[01:41] <crimsun> omar: lo siento, #kubuntu-es
[01:42] <ilumi> when i set $JAVA_HOME what is the last folder that should be included, the bin or the main java folder?
[01:42] <xero> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:42] <xero> #
[01:42] <xero> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[01:42] <xero> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[01:42] <xero> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[01:42] <FloodBotK2> xero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <xero> #
[01:43] <mkquist__> xero: cant you just edit your fstab to allow user access?
[01:44] <xero> how?
[01:44] <mkquist__> xero: like use these options  - vfat    user,rw,noauto      0   0
[01:44] <xero> ummm
[01:45] <xero> could u pm me the proticol for changing fstab plz? private msg i would apreciate it
[01:45] <xero> i gota go l8tr guys thanks for trying
[01:46] <daskreech> !es
[01:47]  * GinoMan_ almost put rm * as root
[01:47] <GinoMan_> instead of ./*
[01:47] <daskreech> GinoMan_: Fear you for you are root and forgetfull
[01:48] <GinoMan_> yes
[01:48] <daskreech> granted * and ./* are the same thing
[01:48] <GinoMan_> .....
[01:48] <GinoMan_> ok
[01:48] <GinoMan_> I didn't know
[01:49] <K350> Is there no progressbar when transfering files in Dolphin?
[01:49] <daskreech> K350: I get one
[01:50] <K350> daskreech: Where is it?
[01:51] <daskreech> K350: If you have plasma running then it's by the i in the system tray
[01:51] <daskreech> which will probably be a number now
[01:51] <K350> aaaah
[01:52] <K350> daskreech: it disapears
[01:52] <K350> daskreech: I mean..it opops up and disapears
[01:53] <K350> daskreech: Any idea how to make it permanent visible while transfering files?
[01:53] <daskreech> K350: I think you can pin it
[01:53]  * GinoMan_ wonders how they make a self installer that's a shell script
[01:53] <daskreech> If you click it it stays up but I have KDE 4.4
[01:53] <daskreech> GinoMan_: loads of ways. How who does it ?
[01:54] <GinoMan_> the ati driver
[01:55] <K350> daskreech: Aha, well I've KDE4...if it's not updated......
[01:55] <GinoMan_> it's a huge 81 mb file and it registers as a text file and then the text file is a shell script
[01:55] <daskreech> K350: Well yes :) that's why you have plasma. Do you have KDE 4.3 or 4.4 ?
[01:56] <daskreech> GinoMan_: It's a Binary file with a shell script headed
[01:56] <daskreech> header
[01:56] <K350> daskreech: Good question. what's the command teh check version?
[01:56] <K350> teh/to
[01:56] <GinoMan_> so what... a shell script with a tar.gz concatenated to it?
[01:56] <K350> the
[01:57] <K350> typos
[01:57] <dunga> what equipment do i need so that guests connecting to my wireless network can only browse the net and not browse other network resources?
[01:57] <daskreech> K350: In any KDE app help -> About KDE
[01:57] <GinoMan_> replace your router with a portanet
[01:57] <K350> daskreech: Ah, I see...
[01:57] <GinoMan_> dunga
[01:58] <dunga> hi GinoMan
[01:58] <tcarter>  i have a phillips webcam and installed setpwc from synaptic Pkg mngr...can anyone tell me where i can find it or how to run it?
[01:58] <dunga> what is a portanet?
[01:59] <daskreech> what is setpwc ?
[02:00] <K350> daskreech: I've KDE 4.3.2  Is 4.4 stable or beta?
[02:00] <tcarter> daskreech: it is a module that is supposed to help config the phillips webcam to work in linux
[02:00] <GinoMan_> dunga: 2600 vol 26, issue 4, winter 2009-2010: Page 9-12
[02:01] <daskreech> K350: Ahmm it's RC2
[02:01] <daskreech> I don't know if you consider that stable or not
[02:01] <GinoMan_> basically you get a laptop with a wireless card, equip it with a second card, then set up software on it that makes it a wireless server
[02:01] <daskreech> tcarter: setpwc from the command line doesnt start it?
[02:01] <GinoMan_> you can do the same with a desktop with two wireless cards
[02:02] <dunga> GinoMan - you have confused me more.
[02:02] <GinoMan_> hold on dunga
[02:02] <dunga> any special software if I went desktop solution
[02:02] <tcarter> daskreech: no unless i was in the wrong directory but i tried several. and i cant find it anywhere under the applications menu
[02:02] <K350> daskreech: Well, thanks for helpling me finding the progressbar :-)
[02:04] <GinoMan_> Dunga: if you go to borders or barnes and noble, buy the hacker quarterly (2600) it's the latest one
[02:04] <GinoMan_> has an old old telephone operator photograph on the front with a elderly woman as the operator wearing headphones
[02:04] <GinoMan_> http://www.2600.com/covers/wi091.gif
[02:04] <GinoMan_> looks like that
[02:05] <daskreech> tcarter: Hold on
[02:05] <GinoMan_> inside on the pages i cited, there's instructions on how to set up a portanet
[02:05] <GinoMan_> it's a wireless router/webserver
[02:05] <tcarter> daskreech: ok thanks
[02:05] <GinoMan_> you can make it so that it's wirlessly connected to your router, you're router is encrypted
[02:05] <GinoMan_> and the portanet is unencrypted
[02:06] <GinoMan_> the unencrypted portanet then serves up whatever you want
[02:06] <GinoMan_> a limited internet
[02:06] <dunga> I Googled it up. Looks plasticky - if only to judge a book by its cover
[02:06] <GinoMan_> or just certian services
[02:06] <GinoMan_> etc
[02:06] <GinoMan_> that it provides through the encrypted router
[02:06] <GinoMan_> or care of
[02:06] <GinoMan_> the encrypted router
[02:06] <GinoMan_> your guests connect to it instead of directly to your router
[02:08] <daskreech> tcarter: type man setpwc
[02:09] <tcarter> daskreech: ok
[02:11] <tcarter> daskreech: thank you
[02:11] <GinoMan_> it'd be nice if the ati package maker was more verbose
[02:12] <GinoMan_> that would explain it
[02:12] <daskreech> What did you find out
[02:12] <GinoMan_> I was using ati driver 9-3
[02:12] <GinoMan_> the newest one out was 9-12
[02:12] <daskreech> Right
[02:12] <GinoMan_> wow.... epic fail
[02:14] <private2> Hi, I am stumped and the forums were not of help. I am running KDE3 on Kubuntu 9.04 (long story). When I went to update kdebase-runtime, adapt-updater had install errors and now I cannot get Firefox to start. "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime" did not help. Do you have any suggestions for what I should do next?
[02:14] <daskreech> private2: Where did you get KDE3 From?
[02:16] <private2> daskreech,  I found the link on the Kubuntu wiki. The site is pearsoncomputing.net
[02:17] <daskreech> private2: ok right :)
[02:17] <private2> daskreech: I have been using it for months and this is my first problem...
[02:18] <daskreech> I'm sure they would be happy to hear about that :)
[02:19] <daskreech> What were the errors?
[02:20] <GinoMan_> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device
[02:20] <GinoMan_> I hate my life
[02:21] <GinoMan_> great
[02:21] <private2> daskreech: adapt-updater says "there was an error committing changes possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages".
[02:22] <daskreech> private2: unravel the errors manually
[02:23] <GinoMan_> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[02:23] <private2> daskreech: "sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime" last line says "e: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
[02:23] <daskreech> With no reason?
[02:25] <private2> daskreech: "errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb"
[02:26] <daskreech> private2: rm that file and sudo apt-get update and install again
[02:30] <private2> daskreech: It still failed. "trying to overwrite /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu which is also in package kdesudo"
[02:31] <daskreech> private2: ack that error. You can --force-overwrite
[02:33] <private2> daskreech: "sudo apt-get --force-overwrite install kdebase-runtime"?
[02:33] <private2> daskreech: I have never had to do that before.
[02:33] <daskreech> Yeah it's a kdesu kdesudo conflict
[02:38] <private2> daskreech: "sudo apt-get --force-yes install kdebase-runtime" had same error as before and "--force-overwrite" did not exist.
[02:39] <crimsun> those are only options for dpkg, not apt-get.
[02:40] <daskreech> yeah that ^^
[02:41] <daskreech>  it's dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[02:44] <private2> daskreech: "dpkg -i --force-overwrite kdebase-runtime" errors with "cannot access archive no such file or directory"
[02:44] <crimsun> you need the full path to the deb file
[02:48] <private2> Yup and got errors of "dependency problems prevent configuration of kdebase-runtime" and "package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 is not configured yet".
[02:54] <crimsun> so now use apt-get -f install
[02:56] <private2> I think that did it. Thank You VERY much :)
[04:13] <Martijn81> are there any realistic car games yet for linux?
[04:19] <Martijn81> no body knows
[04:45] <moonrock713> linux rules
[04:46] <shadeslayer> moonrock713: moonrock713 we know
[04:48] <shadeslayer> i think the kde release team is so in love with rc2 it refuses to officially release it :P
[04:49] <moonrock713> no i mean linux really rules....cause i can really program cool things in python
[05:03] <daskreech> Martijn81: Yes
[05:04] <Martijn81> which one daskreech?
[05:06] <daskreech> TORCS
[05:06] <daskreech> I think it changed it's name recently
[05:09] <Martijn81> daskreech: i cannot enjoy this game so much to be honest :o
[05:10] <daskreech> Martijn81: What game are you looking for?
[05:10] <Martijn81> a car game which looks like trackmania original
[05:11] <Martijn81> hard to match that right>
[05:12] <daskreech> Trackmania is very realistic ?
[05:13] <Martijn81> well, yeah they do it well i guess
[05:14] <daskreech> http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/games/trackmania-united-forever-on-linux-with-wine.html
[05:28] <Martijn81> hmmm, the saling game of this software builder does not work under kubuntu with wine though
[05:28] <Martijn81> let's see what trackmania does here
[05:29] <daskreech> The what?
[05:32] <Martijn81> hehe, lol, they a sailing game too there
[05:32] <Martijn81> which should be for what i was looking for
[05:33] <Martijn81> but it does not load, unfornately
[05:55] <daskreech> Still not following but I hope you fix it :)
[06:08] <tony__>  anyone know where exactly in firefox it calls to the OS (linux specifically) to use a certain widget? reason being my widgets are messed up in kde 4.4 using firefox portable
[06:11] <daskreech> tony__: Looked ok in KDE 4,3 ?
[06:12] <tony__> idk, new to kde and linux
[06:12] <tony__> sorta
[06:12] <tony__> it looks ok in the installed firefox, just not portable
[06:15] <daskreech> Ah probably qtcurve
[06:16] <tony__> yeah, have it installed
[06:16] <daskreech> portable probably just doesn't know it's there
[06:16] <tony__> reason being is it's easier atm than encrypting home partition
[06:17] <tony__> so portable on encrypted file works better atm
[06:17] <tony__> i know, just wondering where in ff's code would it be to call the widget image
[06:18] <tony__> i know the least bit about programming but may be of use to someone else also
[06:18] <tony__> idk why apps like to install all over the place in linux and windows
[06:19] <tony__> i'm afraid my passwords and stuff will be not be secure since they're stored in unencrypted files or folders, right?
[06:21] <daskreech> tony__: Well if you can get on irc.mozilla.org then #firefox there would be quite helpful with the portable issue
[06:21] <tony__> yeah, tried though. need to register. don't know how
[06:21] <daskreech> tony__: I don't know of apps that install all over the place
[06:22] <tony__> firefox does. it's got files in home, /usr/share /usr/lib, etc
[06:23] <tony__> is it generally safe to use firefox to store passwords?
[06:26] <ilumi> what do you mean safe?
[06:27] <owen1> Anyone with Dell mini 10 or Inspiron 11Z - please confirm the touchpad bug I just sumbitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/512192
[06:27] <ilumi> i confirm
[06:28] <ilumi> i had problems with it on my laptop
[06:28] <ilumi> lenovo
[06:28] <daskreech> tony__: it keeps it's files in ~ by default. For a portable config you can keep them on the encrypted Stick
[06:29] <ilumi> however it wasnt e sensitivity issue
[06:29] <ilumi> other problems
[06:30] <alokito> where can I set the shortcut for window opacity? I forgot :(
[06:30] <daskreech> Global Shortcuts?
[06:31] <alokito> daskreech, where in globar shortcuts?
[06:31] <alokito> Kwin?
[06:31] <alokito> global*
[06:33] <alokito> hello?
[06:34] <tony__> btw, i'm amazed at how far kde's come. i'm watching movies on boxee, kdelirc setup so easy, and my desktop looks awesome
[06:34] <tony__> thanks to any kubuntu and kde devs, if you're in here
[06:35] <tony__> looks better than windows 7 i was using and i'm very picky about aesthetics
[06:36]  * alokito *still* can't find the opacity settings anywhere
[06:36]  * alokito is upset
[06:36] <tony__> opacity for what?
[06:36] <alokito> ouch I've forgotten google :|
[06:36] <tony__> system settings, appearance
[06:36] <alokito> tony__, windows
[06:36] <tony__> or right-click desktop
[06:37] <Duskao> anyone else running an Ati gpu? perhaps a 4850? What driver do you find is the most stable?
[06:37] <alokito> hmm
[06:37] <tony__> alokito, system settings, desktop
[06:37] <tony__> then advanced
[06:38] <alokito> ok, checking :)
[06:38] <tony__> then translucency. is that what you're looking for?
[06:38] <alokito> google can find that anyway, wonder how I forgot google :P
[06:39] <alokito> umm there's no translucency in there @ tony__
[06:40] <alokito> :-/
[06:40] <tony__> it is in mine using kde 4.4rc2
[06:40] <alokito> I'm in Lucid A1 KDE SC 4.4 RC1... btw :)
[06:40] <alokito> hmm
[06:40] <tony__> in 4.3 i think it was in right-clicking the desktop
[06:40] <alokito> in lucid a2?
[06:40] <alokito> sorry it's a2, not a1
[06:41] <alokito> no I'm 4.4
[06:41] <tony__> maybe your card can't perform translucency, idk
[06:41] <alokito> no I can use all effects
[06:41] <alokito> well, I'm looking for manual opacity control
[06:42] <alokito> window* opacity
[06:42] <alokito> and I did have this feature in karmic but forgot where it was
[06:42] <tony__> i don't see it, only seen an option for "translucency"
[06:42] <daskreech> Alt+F3 ?
[06:43] <tony__> then again, i'm not much help. i haven't used kde in ages
[06:43] <alokito> daskreech, yup, thanks... but where can I set a keyboard shortcut?
[06:43] <tony__> since when did kde catch up with win7? i'm surprised the progress
[06:44] <alokito> i.e. I want to control transparency with Alt+MouseScroll
[06:44] <alokito> tony__, kwin+compiz had those effects long before win-dows
[06:44] <daskreech> tony__: I think you should be surprised the Windows 7 caught up with KDE
[06:45]  * alokito agrees with daskreech 
[06:45]  * alokito boos MS
[06:46] <daskreech> No need for that :)
[06:46] <tony__> yeah but windows 7 was stable with those effects
[06:46] <alokito> :P
[06:46] <tony__> kde 4 seems very stable and very usable unlike the last time i tried with 4.1
[06:47] <alokito> windows, stable?
[06:47] <alokito> they can't even make a virus free kernel or fragment free FS!
[06:47] <tony__> yeah, generally moreso than linux, imo
[06:47] <daskreech> I'm sure they could but then why would you buy the next one?
[06:47] <tony__> linux fragments and can get viruses, just wait until 50% userbase, if it ever happens
[06:48] <daskreech> tony__: 4.1 was a intital release. Sort of like Windows Vista
[06:48] <daskreech> !virus
[06:48] <tony__> vista was better, very stable. just a system hog
[06:48] <daskreech> Really?
[06:48] <daskreech> Hmm I crashed it the first day I got it
[06:48] <alokito> tony__, virus attack is impossible *without* the user's own will in the sudo/root system
[06:48] <daskreech> It blamed Firefox
[06:49] <tony__> i started jdownloader lastnight for the first time and it crashed my whole system, a java app. not very good
[06:49] <daskreech> in any case all of this is offtopic
[06:49] <daskreech> !ot
[06:49] <tony__> alokito, impossible in the loosest sense of the word
[06:49] <tony__> ok, back on topic
[06:49] <alokito> hmm yes
[06:50] <alokito> we should talk about this in offtopic channel
[06:50] <tony__> but i'm using rc software. seems surprisingly stable
[06:50] <tony__> i have no need to flame other os's, just got off topic
[06:50] <tony__> all are very good in some ways
[06:51] <daskreech> Indeed
[06:51] <tony__> hearts's with linux
[06:51] <daskreech> Granted there is only about three at this point in time
[06:51] <daskreech> Windows, Unix Flavours and Symbian
[06:52] <tony__> OSX. it's far removed from unix
[06:52] <alokito> tony__, to point out the faults of an OS isn't flaming
[06:52] <daskreech> No
[06:52] <daskreech> It's very UNIX
[06:52] <daskreech> it just doesn't use X
[06:53] <daskreech> Which is perfectly valid in a UNIX mindset
[06:53] <tony__> come to think about it, i've had them all on my pc. even symbian through a java emulator
[06:53] <alokito> and yes it truly is impossible to get a automated virus attack if you know what sudo/root account is for
[06:54] <alokito> I've used symbian in Vbox
[06:54] <daskreech> alokito: it's not impoossible since alot of stuff is left automated
[06:54] <alokito> oh it's google android, not symbian
[06:54] <alokito> sorry
[06:54] <daskreech> However it's suprememly unlikely to have a virus "problem"
[06:54] <alokito> daskreech, like?
[06:55] <daskreech> Either widespread or in a particular instance
[06:55] <daskreech> alokito: like someone having a cron job running things from his ~/bin dir
[06:55] <alokito> no I mean where's the leak for an automated attack?
[06:55] <daskreech> or from the cron-daily dir
[06:56] <daskreech> There are a few vectors but they are all reliant on both a silly user and blind chance
[06:56] <alokito> hmm I've never faced any in 3 years of Linuxing
[06:57] <daskreech> They may infect 15 or so people worldwide which for most cases isn't worth the effort
[06:57] <daskreech> and certiainly won't be a "problem" except for those people who will wise up pretty quick
[06:58] <alokito> It's never recommended to install softs aside from a trusted repo... thus if you get affected, it's your own fault
[06:58] <daskreech> Unless you are in a highly automated heterogenous work environment you will likely hear someone caught a virus and wander over to take a look, laugh then go on working since you probably won't get affected
[06:58] <tony__> anyone have back mouse button working in dolphin? should it work by default?
[06:58] <tony__> would be nice to have
[06:59] <alokito> kde now supports touchpad B-)
[06:59] <daskreech> Windows problem is if anyone catches it then you probably will to. Linux and UNIX setups are the opposite it's quite unlikely your machine is like anyone elses
[06:59] <daskreech> Hooray Qt and Nokia
[06:59] <alokito> (though I don't have any idea how to use those on a desktop)
[07:04] <alokito> daskreech, the (kubuntu)OT channel is all silent, the official(this) channel is not much active either... so please don't mind if we are not always using it for support related discussions :P
[07:05] <daskreech> i know it just has to be said :)
[07:06] <alokito> hehe okay :)
[07:12] <tony__> just to let anyone know, i found an easy way to use mouse gestures in dolphin and about all browsers at kdeapps
[07:13] <daskreech> Nice blog it
[07:14] <tony__> i have no blog. have nothing important to really say, lol
[07:15] <daskreech> Ahwell that would have a further reach than the few people here listening :)
[07:17] <alokito> all my blogs are in my native lang.(bangla)
[07:17] <alokito> don't have any in English :(
[07:18] <tony__> bangla? bangladesh?
[07:18] <alokito> yup!
[07:20] <alokito> tony__, where are you from?
[07:21] <tony__> mid-usa
[07:22] <alokito> ok
[07:23] <alokito> you should try the mouse themes in kde-look.org
[07:23] <alokito> I don't like the default theme so I installed some
[07:23] <tony__> yeah, hope it's warmer where you're at. getting sick of winter
[07:24] <alokito> they look cool B-)
[07:24] <tony__> it's not bad. most are kind of tacky
[07:24] <alokito> yah, winter is fading away
[07:24] <alokito> rain is my favorite season
[07:25] <tony__> rain is a season there? here's it's just an instance
[07:25] <tony__> i used to like rain but doing construction work, i hate working out in the mud
[07:25] <alokito> yup it's our speciality!
[07:26] <alokito> people here love to play soccer on Mud :D
[07:27] <tony__> you mean football? i though us americans were the only ones who say soccer
[07:27] <alokito> yup, footbal
[07:27] <alokito> football*
[07:27] <alokito> there are 2 variations of football I think
[07:27] <alokito> 1 is like rugby(american football) and the other is genuine football
[07:28] <alokito> FIFA
[07:29] <alokito> so, soccer is more specific...
[07:30] <tony__> gotcha
[07:30] <alokito> :)
[07:30] <tony__> seems soccer is a least fav sport here. i always liked it though
[07:30] <alokito> cricket and football are my fav sports
[07:31] <alokito> and chess and carrom in board games
[07:34] <tony__> don't play any sports here or board games. mostly just video games. lazy, i know
[07:34] <tony__> i get enough physical labor at work anyhow
[07:35] <alokito> yup I also play PC Games
[07:35] <tony__> then again, i'm approaching 30. getting too old to be banging my body around
[07:35] <alokito> hmm
[07:35] <alokito> I'm 19
[07:36] <alokito> brb I gotta take a shower
[07:36] <tony__> i play pc games some, though since i'm on kde, i guess steam and other games aren't much good
[07:36] <tony__> later
[07:37] <alokito> tony__, there are lots of good games in http://playdeb.net
[07:37] <alokito> you should try some :)
[07:37] <alokito> ciao..
[07:37] <Smudo1983> hi
[07:37] <tony__> yeah, i'm familiar with linux games. played plenty though i don't want my windows games to be wasted
[07:37] <tony__> later
[07:38] <Smudo1983> warsow is a very nice game
[07:39] <Smudo1983> you can install the 2 os with dual boot man
[07:56] <tony__> yeah, dual booting now
[07:56] <tony__> got a 360 for games so not too worried
[08:00] <tony__> i just installed kde 4.4rc2. is it usually a problem playing two sounds at once?
[08:11] <shadeslayer> tony__: nope
[08:15] <tony__> ok, i can play two avi's at once. just not youtube and an avi or amarok
[08:56] <useless> WTF
[09:03] <shadeslayer> Guest34402: ?
[09:03] <shadeslayer> um sorry
[09:07] <kameron> is qtparted in kubuntu repos?
[09:07] <alokito> lucid's kubuntu 4.4 is now RC2?
[09:07] <shadeslayer> alokito: probably
[09:07] <shadeslayer> alokito: (if they repaired mesa)
[09:07] <alokito> shadeslayer, how can I check the version?
[09:08] <shadeslayer> alokito: we also i have kde 4.4.RC2 ( in karmic )
[09:08] <alokito> I have installed all latest updates
[09:08] <shadeslayer> alokito: open any app and check > Help > About KDE
[09:08] <alokito> so mine is also RC2?
[09:08] <alokito> hmmm
[09:08] <alokito> yah, RC2
[09:08] <alokito> cool :D
[09:08] <shadeslayer> alokito: :)
[09:09] <alokito> kde4 rocks
[09:09] <alokito> I wasn't a kde fan at all before kde4
[09:12] <rethus> anyone using ktimetracker in kontact? seems to be very buggy
[09:12] <alokito> hmm there should be scrollbar in amarok lyrics plugin
[09:13] <alokito> I have to maximize the screen to read the whole lyrics :(
[09:13] <rethus> dont save any values
[09:14] <rethus> can i upgrade to newer kde version than kde 4.3.2
[09:14] <rethus> should be stable
[09:15] <sandhya> 4.3.4?
[09:15] <rethus> sandhya: is this a question or an answer?
[09:15] <alokito> kde 4.4 rc2 is pretty stable for me, but I won't recommend it to newbies :-)
[09:15] <sandhya> that is the newer KDE version which is stable
[09:16] <rethus> 4.3.4 is stable?
[09:17] <rethus> which repos i had to add?
[09:17] <Tm_T> rethus: 4.3.4 is in Karmic backports
[09:17] <Tm_T> !backports
[09:17] <rethus> alokito: thanks, i'm not a newbie, but i dind't ive on the edge.
[09:18] <rethus> so backports is not experimantal, its realy stable?!
[09:18] <sandhya> my console beeps have stopped being audible post the upgrade to karmic
[09:18] <sandhya> any idea why? or how to debug?
[09:19] <Tm_T> rethus: yes
[09:19] <alokito> rethus, hmm okay... I'm using the Lucid alpha 2 for everything I do in my pc and having no trouble at all
[09:20] <rethus> Tm_T: so i'm new to kubuntu but many years on suse... what repos should i add for ubuntu too? whats about security and update repos... which one is after clean installation added, which one shoul i add after installation?
[09:21] <Tm_T> !repositories
[09:21] <Tm_T> rethus: I think security and updates are on by default
[09:21] <Tm_T> !worksforme | alokito
[09:21] <alokito> rethus, this might help: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/01/19/how-to-install-kde-4-4-rc-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[09:22] <amichair> is anyone seeing plasma-dekstop taking up a whole lot of memory (RES) ?
[09:22] <Tm_T> that helps if he likes to install non-stable release, yes
[09:22] <rethus> so i use this for adding backports:?
[09:22] <Tm_T> amichair: not me
[09:22] <rethus> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:22] <Tm_T> rethus: yes
[09:22] <alokito> Tm_T, I already said that, Guess You didn't read my messages!
[09:22] <Tm_T> alokito: I did (:
[09:23] <alokito> Tm_T, <alokito> kde 4.4 rc2 is pretty stable for me, but I won't recommend it to newbies :-)
[09:23] <rethus> deb command not found
[09:23] <rethus> strange
[09:23] <alokito> rethus, you gotta add the right repo in your sources.list
[09:24] <sandhya> rethus: read up on the help links
[09:24] <sandhya> anybody have any ideas on my sound issue?
[09:24] <amichair> my plasma-desktop (KDE 4.3.4) is up to 937M and rising. I opened a kde bug, but they can't recreate. looking for someone else who sees this, so we can maybe pinpoint the cause.
[09:25] <alokito> !ask | sandhya
[09:25] <sandhya> alokito: scroll up
[09:25] <alokito> ok..
[09:27] <alokito> sandhya, System Settings->Notifications->System Bell
[09:27] <alokito> if thats what you are looking for... :-/
[09:29] <sandhya> alokito: That's useful. Thanks. The issue is that I can't hear the console beep / system bell.
[09:29] <sandhya> I used to be able to
[09:29] <alokito> hmm
[09:29] <Black^Oprah> http://phuzion.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/cf/cfec6f73a10e39d1c343cac345e4c226b04475ac.jpg happy Aus Day to all aussies for tomorrow!
[09:29] <sandhya> for e.g., the beep command from the cli is now inaudible
[09:29] <alokito> I don't like console beeps
[09:30] <sandhya> I used to hear it fine
[09:30] <rethus> how is the apt-row for deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:30] <alokito> they remind me of old pcs :-S
[09:30] <sandhya> they're more reliable than sound files :)
[09:30] <sandhya> and controllable separately
[09:30] <alokito> rethus, there should be a kde 4.4 repo for karmic, but it might not be stable
[09:31] <rethus> so i didn't need it... ui cant take me over to use beta ;) don't try it anyway
[09:31] <rethus> :D
[09:32] <alokito> ok :)
[09:32] <alokito> then you should be happy with the KDE 4.3 in your karmic repo
[09:33] <alokito> if you need something better you have to join the bleeding edge :P
[09:33] <rethus> 4.3 is ok. but i try now 4.3.4 thats should have some new features infront of 4.3.2
[09:34] <rethus> no thanks
[09:34] <alokito> hmm that's cutting edge :)
[09:35] <rethus> 114 new packages :D
[09:35] <alokito> in backport?
[09:37] <rethus> yes
[09:38] <rethus> now i have 4.3.2 and in backport are 114 new package for me
[09:38] <rethus> so thats "living on the edge"-enough for me ;)
[09:39] <jussi01> rethus: its just the update to a new release - it usually updates most packages - ie. 4.3.2 -> 4.3.4
[09:40] <alokito> rethus, good for you :)
[09:40] <jussi01> Currently, the "bleeding edge" is 4.4 RC2 ;)
[09:40] <alokito> jussi01, yup and I'm in that right now ;)
[09:43] <alokito> here's my current desktop: http://i45.tinypic.com/ir1awj.jpg
[09:43] <rogerio> oi
[09:46] <alokito> oh I've also created a panel with app shortcuts on the right... but it's set to autohide so showing in the screenshot
[09:55] <alokito> not* showing
[09:55]  * alokito yawns
[10:23] <Paddy_NI> Hello not sure if I am in the correct place but I am trying to use network-manager-gnome in kde 4 would anyone know of a guide for doing this?
[10:23] <Sungod123> hello, i need help regarding intsallation
[10:24] <Sungod123> i burned the kubuntu 64 bnit image on a cd,i boot from cd everything works fine, i see kubuntu flash screen when i click "install kubuntu" but after that i only see a black menu and theres a text marker which keeps splashing
[10:24] <Sungod123> and it wont go any further
[10:24] <Sungod123> i'ms new to linux, if anyone could help?
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, sounds to me like the x server is crashing
[10:25] <Sungod123> no idea what that is Paddy_NI, and how do i fix it
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, have you tried just selecting install when you boot the cd
[10:25] <Sungod123> yes
[10:25] <Sungod123> many times
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, X is responsible for the graphical display
[10:25] <Sungod123> i tried install without changes to computer, or check cd for effects
[10:25] <Sungod123> same thing happens on all
[10:25] <Sungod123> defects*
[10:25] <Paddy_NI> hmm.. could be your hardware
[10:26] <Sungod123> i'm using a dell laptop
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> what gfx card are you using?
[10:26] <Sungod123> i also have a 32 bit ubuntu cd
[10:26] <Sungod123> which works fine
[10:26] <Sungod123> ATI
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> which?
[10:26] <Sungod123> let me check
[10:26] <Sungod123> one sec
[10:27] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, also if ubuntu 32 bit installs correctly then you theoretically should be able to install 32 bit kubuntu
[10:27] <Sungod123> ATI mobility HD 4570
[10:27] <Paddy_NI> Okay just a moment
[10:27] <Sungod123> i assumed Paddy_NI, first i thought i'm burning the image wrong, burnt again 2 times, same problem :(
[10:28] <Sungod123> and yes i have 32 bit cd, shipped from ubuntu, but i wanted KDE desktop and 64 bit to utilise my RAM completely
[10:29] <Sungod123> so i downloaded the 64 bit kubuntu
[10:29] <Sungod123> torrented*
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, Is your laptop a Dell Studio 15?
[10:29] <Sungod123> yes sir
[10:29] <Sungod123> 1555
[10:29] <Paddy_NI> Have you read this http://www.linlap.com/wiki/dell+studio+15
[10:29] <Sungod123> nope, i will now Paddy_NI, can you hold on
[10:30] <Paddy_NI> Yeah sure I am of to make some tea
[10:31] <Sungod123> Paddy_NI: it tells me everything should be working fine :/
[10:31] <Sungod123> i dont see any compatibility issues listed there
[10:31] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, oh it seems he was not using 64 bit
[10:32] <Sungod123> ah, does that make difference?
[10:32] <Sungod123> and now where do go from here? is there any possible solution to this for a newbie like me
[10:34] <Paddy_NI> I am reading
[10:34] <Sungod123> thanks a lot for trying
[10:34] <Sungod123> in meantime, ill sit tight
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, are you sure its an ati card?
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> seems to be intel
[10:35] <Sungod123> yes Paddy_NI, i'm on windblows7, and used dxdiag
[10:35] <Paddy_NI> ah
[10:36] <Sungod123> is there possiblity of me burning the image wrong
[10:36] <Sungod123> any way to check that? or if that was the case it wouldnt start at all
[10:36] <Paddy_NI> It appears the laptop's built in display is incompatible with Intel graphics driver. According to the last couple of posts on that site
[10:36] <Paddy_NI> hmm.. sec
[10:37] <Sungod123> because from my past experience normal ubuntu has been alright, although it got corrupted after some time fo no reason, so i thought ill try kubuntu 64 bit now
[10:38] <Paddy_NI> Sungod123, just found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/ati-mobility-radeon-hd-4570-on-kubuntu-9.10-64-bit-765615/
[10:40] <Sungod123> i'm also seeing a console like thing Paddy_NI
[10:41] <Sungod123> after the basic kubuntu logo and splash screen
[10:41] <Paddy_NI> yes I know
[10:41] <Sungod123> but i dont see his problem resolved
[10:41] <Sungod123> :(
[10:41] <Paddy_NI> last post
[10:41] <Sungod123> what's wrong, and how to fix
[10:41] <Sungod123> well i only have 1 graphic card i think
[10:41] <Sungod123> and its dedicated
[10:45] <Sungod123> Paddy_NI: his desktop effects were'nt working, for me it wont even start or do anything at all :/
[10:53] <pat|nG> i accidentally closed my panel...how can i set it back to the original themes and everything?
[10:54] <Kolia> pat|nG: right click on desktop --> add panel?
[10:54] <pat|nG> i've been doin that
[10:54] <pat|nG> but i can't get it right to its original form
[10:54] <Kolia> ah
[10:54] <pat|nG> i just wanna need it to the original settings
[10:54] <pat|nG> :(
[10:54] <Sungod123> can anyone else help me please?
[11:01] <simion314> Sungod123: what is your problem?
[11:02] <Sungod123> sec
 i burned the kubuntu 64 bnit image on a cd,i boot from cd everything works fine, i see kubuntu flash screen when i click "install kubuntu" but after that i only see a black menu and theres a text marker which keeps splashing
 and it wont go any further
[11:02] <Sungod123> i tried using Wubi just to test, it gave error regarding something with installation files
[11:03] <Sungod123> i torrented the image and burnt using roxio, i dont know what i'm doing wrong
[11:03] <Sungod123> ive burnt it on 2 cds so far, same problem
[11:04] <Sungod123> can you help simion314
[11:05] <simion314> Sungod123: it can e that the image you downloaded was corupted, try to check the MD5 sum,also can be a bug , you can install using the alternate CD
[11:05] <Sungod123> i dont have 64 bit alternate CD
[11:06] <Sungod123> and how do i check MD5, i'm new to linux sorry
[11:06] <Sungod123> my alternate CD is 32 bit ubuntu, i wanted it 64 bit with KDE so i dled that
[11:06] <simion314> Sungod123: there are instructions on the download page
[11:06] <Sungod123> could you please redirect me
[11:06] <Sungod123> with a link
[11:07] <Sungod123> ah
[11:07] <Sungod123> md5 sums?
[11:07] <simion314> Sungod123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[11:08] <simion314> Sungod123: this how to is better http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/how-to-check-md5sum-of-downloads-reader-questions/
[11:08] <Sungod123> simion314, may i pm you
[11:10] <simion314> Sungod123: yes
[11:16] <psteyn> Hi guys.  What linux software can I use to view my Nokia E75's messages and so on?  Anything that works for E71/72 should also work
[11:22] <Basstard`> psteyn: I saw a program last week.. can't remember what it was called..
[11:24] <Basstard`> psteyn: Wammu..
[11:24] <Basstard`> psteyn: or Gammu..
[11:53] <Daughain> Ok....WHat flag do I use to get badblocks to mark sectors so they dont get used on a reformat?
[11:53] <Daughain> Or, how do I get this to work...??
[13:39] <Ahox> Hi, laut kubuntu.org ist kde rc2 draussen. Die werden bei mir jedoch noch nicht angezeigt. Stimmt das oder mache ich etwas falsch?
[13:40] <Pici> !de | Ahox
[13:41] <Ahox> Argh, sorry, I am still kind of sleeping. I want to install the kde rc2 which according to kubuntu.org is already out.  However my aptitude does not show me any updates. (the beta ppa are enabled).
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Ahox: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:43] <Ahox> shadeslayer,  tried that to no avail
[13:43] <shadeslayer> Ahox: also check if you have already upgraded to  RC 2 already
[13:43] <Ahox> shadeslayer,  ouch, thnx
[13:43] <shadeslayer> Ahox: packages were uploaded a few days ago but not officially announced :)
[13:44] <Ahox> shadeslayer,  ok, this would explain it
[13:44] <Ahox> thnx a lot
[13:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:39] <richb1908> new to IRC bear with me please
[14:39] <genii> !hi
[14:41] <richb1908> Just installed Karmic on a very old laptop. Enjoying the experience
[14:41] <guest2> any one can help me how to install Apache hadoop
[14:45] <Tm_T> hi villemv
[14:46] <villemv> er Tm_T, you were expecting me? ;-)
[14:53] <marc-andre> hiho
[14:54] <Tm_T> villemv: not really, just said hi to new .fi face around here (to me atleast)
[14:54] <marc-andre> i don't have sound in java applications (at least in the Cisco WebEx client), what do i need to adjust ?
[14:54] <villemv> Tm_T: alright. I thought you were someone I knew that I didn't recognize from the nick :-)
[14:56] <BluesKaj> marc-andre, make sure you have all your reposities enabled , then install flashplugin-nonfree or kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:57] <BluesKaj> err repositories
[14:58] <marc-andre> BluesKaj: ahhh, my bad, i installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras x(
[14:59] <BluesKaj> marc-andre, hmm that should still work , but install flashplugin-nonfree as well
[15:14] <jaison> hi
[15:14] <jaison> anybody home
[15:14] <jaison> ???
[15:14] <jaison> ???
[15:14] <jaison> ???
[15:14] <FloodBotK2> jaison: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <jaison> im new to ubuntu
[15:16] <jaison> im not able to connect to the internet
[15:16] <jaison> i have problems
[15:16] <jaison> can anybody help me??
[15:16] <rmrfslash> wired/wireless?
[15:17] <jaison> wireless
[15:17] <jussi01> jaison: patience mate, not everyone is here at all times, just ask and wait :)
[15:17] <rmrfslash> you have the wireless application running and visible in the system tray?
[15:17] <jaison> yes
[15:18] <rmrfslash> rather, the network manager
[15:18] <JuJuBee> !wireless
[15:18] <jaison> it shows the signal
[15:18] <rmrfslash> ok
[15:18] <rmrfslash> if you run ifconfig -a do you ahve an IP on wlan0
[15:19] <jaison> yes
[15:19] <rmrfslash> ok
[15:19] <jaison> hey now its working
[15:19] <rmrfslash> host google.com
[15:20] <jaison> donno why
[15:20] <rmrfslash> ok... well
[15:20] <jaison> thanks
[15:20] <rmrfslash> have fun
[15:20] <jaison> then
[15:20] <jaison> i hvae one more doubt
[15:20] <jaison> i dont like ubuntu 9.0
[15:20] <rmrfslash> we all have our doubts
[15:20] <rmrfslash> hahahah
[15:20] <jaison> i was using
[15:20] <rmrfslash> i just upgraded, it's a bit better than 9.04
[15:20] <jaison> ubuntu 8
[15:20] <jaison> it was good
[15:20] <jaison> except for the video chat
[15:20] <jaison> so i once installed
[15:20] <jaison> ubuntu 9
[15:20] <rmrfslash> you're on the "K"ubuntu channel, you know that right?
[15:21] <jaison> yes
[15:21] <FloodBotK2> jaison: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <rmrfslash> so I assume when you say ubuntu you mean kubuntu
[15:21] <jaison> yes
[15:21] <rmrfslash> in essence ubuntu is Debian + GTK while Kubuntu is Debian + KDE
[15:21] <rmrfslash> ok
[15:22] <rmrfslash> what video chat?
[15:22] <rmrfslash> Skype?
[15:22] <rmrfslash> Empathy?
[15:22] <jaison> in pidgin
[15:22] <rmrfslash> pidgin has video?
[15:22] <jaison> in ubuntu 9 it has video
[15:22] <rmrfslash> hmm
[15:22] <rmrfslash> I see
[15:22] <jaison> so i changed to ubuntu 9 once
[15:22] <rmrfslash> This was a huge missing feature in old pidgin
[15:23] <jaison> yes i know
[15:23] <rmrfslash> anyways... so you're using Pidgin w/ video
[15:23] <rmrfslash> in Kubuntu 8.10
[15:23] <jaison> can i??
[15:23] <rmrfslash> and when you upgraded to 9.10...........
[15:23] <jaison> i dont think so
[15:23] <rmrfslash> I dunno, did you try?
[15:23] <jaison> no
[15:23] <rmrfslash> apt-get install pidgin?
[15:23] <jaison> i have pidgin
[15:24] <jaison> video doesnt work
[15:24] <rmrfslash> I don't use pidgin, I can't help you
[15:24] <rmrfslash> I use (if I'm to use a standalone IM client) Empathy
[15:24] <rmrfslash> it's considered by several to be the Pidgin killer
[15:24] <rmrfslash> don't know how true that is
[15:25] <rmrfslash> but it seems to work
[15:25] <jaison> ok
[15:26] <fabio__> hello
[15:28] <abner> ppl, Im looking for the kde 4.3.3 pkgs that was in launchpad. where are them? moved to another place?
[15:29] <rmrfslash> in empathy when I try to start a new video chat I get empathy-Message: Element error: Failed to connect: Connection refused -- pulsesrc.c(597): gst_pulsesrc_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/EmpathyGstAudioSrc:empathygstaudiosrc0/GstGConfAudioSrc:gconfaudiosrc0/GstBin:bin3/GstPulseSrc:pulsesrc0
[15:29] <rmrfslash> what a piece of junk
[15:30] <EagleScreen> abner: they are in karmic-backports
[15:31] <abner> EagleScreen, do you have the deb repo address, please?
[15:31] <EagleScreen> sure
[15:31] <EagleScreen> deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[15:32] <rmrfslash> jaison: if I've learned anything, never just *expect* something to work when it comes to linux
[15:32] <rmrfslash> and what fixes one app will likely break another
[15:32] <abner> EagleScreen, let me test it here, thanks in advance!
[15:32] <rmrfslash> cuz no one can agree on a multimedia API
[15:32] <EagleScreen> abner: you can enable this repo in your kpackagekit settings
[15:32] <rmrfslash> or a network manager
[15:32] <rmrfslash> or anything
[15:39] <cjohnston> Interested in learning about how to do development work in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? Join in on the Ubuntu Developer Week to learn! Ubuntu Developer Week is starting in approx. 30 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat   - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek for more info
[15:46] <Sungod123> When I boot from Kubuntu 9.10 CD then the initial menu (with e.g. the keymap and language menu) is displayed but the actual full Ubuntu is not successful booted later.
[15:46] <Sungod123> After some minutes only the cursor is visible on a black screen.
[15:47] <Sungod123> and it keeps blinking, and nothing happens
[15:52] <ubuntu> hi, i want to try out mdadm for my raid system, am i able to configure this under the desktop cd of 9.10?
[15:52] <somekool> anyone upgraded to 4.4 rc2 ? how stable is it ?
[15:54] <ubuntu> somekool: not yet, but rc1 was not stable here seeing that it made apt-get to fail big time
[15:57] <ubuntu> somekool: Ã¬ would advice to wait for the normal backport release of it
[15:57] <ubuntu> those are more stable IIRC
[15:58] <ubuntu> any knows?
[16:48] <Izinucs> I've got a couple kmail questions.... how do I get "Reply's" to start my reply on Top of the previous message instead of the bottom?  Also, how do I get forwards to "Quote" the text instead of "Attaching" the previous email?
[16:52] <sa1981_> hey everyone
[16:52] <sa1981_> anybody know how I backup kopete message history?
[16:53] <wftl> Just back up $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs sa1981_
[16:54] <wftl> tar it, zip it, or whatever. Burn it to a disk and store it.
[16:55] <eitreach> Is there a way to automount my external drive in KDE 4.3, like there is in KDE 4.4?
[16:55] <eitreach> I'm not skilled enough to mess around with fstab, so..
[16:55] <sa1981_> wftl: ok, cool thnx alot
[16:56] <sa1981_> wftl: I am actually using kopete under ubuntu
[17:06] <sa1981_> wftl: can it be kopete_history?
[17:06] <wftl> sa1981_: How old is your Ubuntu release.
[17:06] <sa1981_> old...8.10 i think
[17:06] <wftl> It's possible that this is being stored in .kde4 instead of .kde
[17:06] <wftl> Same folder, but .kde4 instead
[17:07] <sa1981_> yes, there is where i found this folder
[17:07] <sa1981_> wftl:  ...kde4/apps/kopete_history
[17:09] <sa1981_> wftl: must be it right?
[17:14] <r00t_> each tiem i try to unrar a rar or other archive i get an error about "CRC failed"
[17:18] <sa1981_> wftl: cannot find the logs folder
[17:18] <ilumi> sa1981_: logd for what
[17:19] <Krezkey> whats a good chat client other than Kopete
[17:20] <ilumi> Krezkey: pigin?
[17:20] <ilumi> or pidgin, something like that
[17:21] <Krezkey> thanks
[17:21] <sa1981_> ilumi: logs for kopete chat history
[17:21] <sa1981_> ilumi: am trying to find the history file for kopete chat history
[17:21] <sa1981_> ilumi: under ubuntu 8.10 though
[17:21] <Krezkey> having problems with Kopete...keep getting unwanted people added to friends lists.
[17:22] <Izinucs> Suddenly my audio has stopped working.. It's been fine for the last 5 years on gnome and on 9.10 kubuntu up until today.. any suggestions on how to diagnose this?
[17:22] <ilumi> sa1981_: check if there is a hidden directory in your home folder
[17:22] <ilumi> sa1981_: for kopete
[17:23] <sa1981_> ilumi: hm
[17:24] <FOAD> Hi.
[17:25] <sa1981_> ilumi: no
[17:25] <FOAD> My new keyboard does not have previous/next mmkeys, but I'd like to assign that function to some of the other (worthless) mmkeys it does have.  How do I do this, please?
[17:26] <ilumi> sa1981_: do a search for it
[17:27] <sa1981_> ilumi: i did before, the only thing I found was kopete_history
[17:27] <lavin> list
[17:27] <sa1981_> ilumi: but that does not seem to be it
[17:28] <lavin> help ubuntu drivin me crazy
[17:28] <BluesKaj> Krezkey, if you want an irc dedicated client , then try konversation
[17:29] <Izinucs> or Quassel
[17:29] <BluesKaj> <---not a quassel fan m but to each his own :)
[17:29] <Krezkey> well O want to chat on yahoo. I use Quassel here
[17:30] <Krezkey> I want to chat on yahoo.
[17:30] <Izinucs> BluesKaj: It's "ok".. I'm typically in irssi :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yahoo ? who cares about yahoo anymore
[17:30] <Krezkey> all my friends areon there. thats all
[17:31] <BluesKaj> hehe, nm I'm just an old graump who thinks those silly google chat and yahootalk clients merely AIM wanna be's
[17:32] <Krezkey> thats ok...to each their own.
[17:32] <ilumi> sa1981_: is the loging turned on?
[17:32] <Izinucs> even aplay doesn't work anymore on k9.10 .. suddenly and without notice.. any advice on diagnostics?
[17:32] <sa1981_> ilumi: yes it is
[17:33] <sa1981_> ilumi: i have logs from 2007 and onwards that i need to backup
[17:33] <ilumi> sa try .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[17:34] <sa1981_> ilumi: could it be one of the following: kcm_kopete_history.so or kopete_history.so
[17:35] <ilumi> sa1981_: dont know, backup them all
[17:35] <sa1981_> hm
[17:37] <sa1981_> ilumi: ah, screw it
[17:37] <sa1981_> :)
[17:37] <FOAD> Please, anyone?  How can I remap multimedia keys?
[17:37] <sa1981_> ilumi: thanx a lot for your help
[17:41] <iconmefisto> FOAD: systemsettings, keyboard & mouse, standard keyboard shortcuts
[17:42] <FOAD> iconmefisto: sadly there is no "Next" or "Previous" there. (For songs.)
[17:49] <iconmefisto> FOAD: is that something that should work in all music players? or just one particular player?
[17:49] <FOAD> iconmefisto: the former.
[17:50] <iconmefisto> FOAD: you might want to look into xmodmap to remap keys
[17:50] <[GuS]> Hi guys, since i've updated to kde4.4rc2 i have problems related to qscintilla: RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyQt4.Qsci module requires API v6.0
[17:50] <FOAD> Basically, I want to remap two mm buttons to XF86Prev and XF86Next.
[17:50] <FOAD> I guess I will have to descend to that level.
[17:50] <FOAD> I hoped Kubuntu would provide something more.. userfriendly.
[17:51] <FOAD> But thanks for the sugguestion, iconmefisto. :)
[18:05] <genii> [GuS]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550720 posts a solution which may work for you
[18:05] <r00t_> My desktop is no longer vieable,what happned? (my desktop file area not my background)
[18:07] <[GuS]> genii: i was about to compile latest qsci :)
[18:07] <[GuS]> which i guess will fix that
[18:07] <Sakui> is automount where it automagically mounts CD drives and other things?
[18:07] <genii> r00t_: Add widget called "Folder View" to your desktop
[18:10] <r00t_> thanks
[18:11] <r00t_> when using fileroller or other prograsm to open a rar file i get this error:rld-nwn2.iso         - CRC failed
[18:11] <r00t_>  Anyway to fix this?
[18:15] <Sakui> is automount where it automagically mounts CD drives and other things?
[18:16] <iconmefisto> r00t_: corrupted download?
[18:17] <r00t_> iconmefisto: its done this with many .rar files also woudlent ktorrent have runa .md5 after teh download was copmlete?
[18:19] <user_> hi
[18:20] <user_> i have problems with gpg and pinentry
[18:22] <user_> I can't read encrpyted mails or sign them
[18:22] <user_> pinentry rushes though and don't ask me for my pw
[18:22] <user_> then error is wrong pw
[18:22] <user_> what can i do?
[18:25] <iconmefisto> r00t_: do you have unrar or unrar-nonfree installed?
[18:26] <genii> user_: Did you install Kubuntu from inside Ubuntu, or was it installed from a Kubuntu cd? It can be you don't have pinentry-qt4 but pinentry-gtk2 instead
[18:27] <r00t_> icon: E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[18:27] <r00t_> iconmefisto: ^
[18:27] <r00t_> unrar is installed
[18:27] <genii> !info unrar-nonfree
[18:28] <genii> !info unrar-free
[18:28] <iconmefisto> that's the one I meant. unrar-free. sorry for the confusion
[18:30] <user_> genii: from a kubuntu live cd
[18:30] <user_> then upgraded twice
[18:31] <user_> but i have some ubuntu things as well. using have kmail and thunderbird - in case this is of importance
[18:32] <genii> user_: Does command: apt-cache policy pinentry-qt4           show that it is installed?
[18:33] <irene__> Hi, all. The hard drive of my laptop is dying, so i'm trying to mount its encrypted data on another ubuntu laptop. But user ids are different. Okay, i'm not very clear, but here's my question: can I create 2 entries in /etc/passwd having different usernames but the same uid/gid ?
[18:33] <user_> oh it says none installed
[18:34] <nasrullah> hi
[18:34] <user_> genii: installing pinenetry-qt4 now
[18:34] <somekool> irene__: no but you can change ownership of all files
[18:35] <user_> maybe that was not used back in intrepid where I originally installed kubuntu
[18:35] <user_> thank you
[18:35] <genii> user_: Keep us posted
[18:35] <irene__> Thanks somekool
[18:36] <nasrullah> could anyone tell me how to install realplayer codecs in amarok????
[18:36] <user_> genii: I restarted kmail now, but still same prob
[18:37] <user_> genii: I found out that when I do 'pkill gpg-agent' then I can enter my pw in the gpg editor, else this one also says 'wrong pw' without actually asking me. the screens just rush through
[18:38] <nasrullah> realplayer codecs for amarok please.....................
[18:39] <user_> genii: I did not have pinentry-gtk but pinentry-qt  (without the '4') should I rather uninstall this one now in order to avoid clonflicts?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> !real | nasrullah
[18:42] <nasrullah> thank you <ubottu>
[18:44] <user_> hmm, genii, I now have pinentry-qt4 installed, -qt uninstalled, closed kmail, pkill pgp-agent, pkill gpg-agent, reopen kmail
[18:44] <user_> now the dialogs don't rush thru anymore, but still it asks no pw and says 'wrong pw'
[18:45] <genii> user_: Apologies on lag, my work is quite busy right now.
[18:46] <nasrullah> i want to buy a netbook....which one is good with kubuntu???
[18:46] <user_> genii: no problem. work is priority. thank you anyway
[18:49] <user_> anyone else?
[19:03] <genii> user_: Does: grep use-agent ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf            show it as commented out?
[19:10] <user_> genii: andy@Rechner:~$ grep use-agent ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[19:10] <user_> use-agent
[19:12] <blueyed> Can somebody provide (i.e. confirm or not confirm) bug 447929?
[19:12] <blueyed> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/447929
[19:16] <user_> blueyed: I just tried
[19:16] <user_> could not enter as I have no account, but so far it worked as should
[19:17] <blueyed> user_: thanks. So when clicking Ok, you got an error page and the dialog closed? Are you using Karmic?
[19:17] <user_> yes
[19:17] <user_> karmic
[19:18] <blueyed> user_: then it's an odd bug.. happened with karmic for me, too. Have you setup kwalletmanager? (i.e. passwords in the KDE Wallet)
[19:18] <user_> the original dialgo closes it says authentication failed and asks if I want to try again or cancel
[19:18] <user_> cancle brings error page
[19:18] <user_> yes I have
[19:18] <blueyed> ok. Can you leave a comment on the bug please, if you have a LP.net account?
[19:18] <user_> no account sorry
[19:18] <user_> maybe I get one later
[19:19] <blueyed> Odd. But thanks! Now I know that it's something obscure at least.
[19:19] <blueyed> I can provide your info there, no prob.
[19:19] <user_> ok
[19:19] <blueyed> But a LP.net account does not hurt.. ;)
[19:19] <blueyed> Thanks again and enjoy your (better working) Kubuntu.. ;)
[19:19] <user_> maybe just reinstall kwallet
[19:19] <user_> mine is bugging me as it lets me not read my mails
[19:20] <blueyed> in what regard?
[19:20] <user_> it tells me I gave wrong decryption pw though it didn't even ask me for a pw
[19:20] <user_> gpg with pinentry-qt4 for example in kmail
[19:21] <blueyed> so then pinentry window does not pop up? This has nothing to do with kwallet AFAIK (at least I get the pinentry dialog, but nothing about my kdewallet)
[19:21] <user_> i never said it had to do with kwallet.
[19:21] <user_> no no window even popping up
[19:27] <illunatic> hey guys i used putty on windows the shell into a remote freebsd machine and run irssi. what should i use for this on kubuntu?
[19:27] <illunatic> i have putty now, but it's not as good.
[19:28] <blueyed> user_: so the window is pinentry window is popping up actually?
[19:28] <blueyed> illunatic: just use "ssh" in "konsole".
[19:28] <illunatic> alright thanks
[19:29] <blueyed> putty is a workaround for windows, but not required on Linux really.
[19:29] <foormea> hi
[19:29] <avi_> hi, would Kubuntu run better on a 1.5Ghz 1.5GB Ram 2005 PowerBook G4 than Ubuntu?
[19:29] <foormea> i'm using kubuntu on an eeepc 1201n that has ION chipset. i have no sound when playing a movie with vlc or mplayer, but i have sound when using dragon player. apparently it's related to pulseaudio, as i get this error message with mplayer: AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
[19:29] <avi_> Or should there not be a different?
[19:29] <foormea> in system settings/multimedia, i see the following 'devices': hda nvidia (alc269 analog) ; hda nvidia, nvidia hdmi (hdmi audio output) ; pulseaudio
[19:29] <foormea> when trying the sound on pulseaudio, i get a message that says that pulseaudio doesn't work
[19:30] <illunatic> success >_<
[19:30] <foormea> and "mplayer -ao alsa <whatever file>" doesn't play any sound
[19:30] <illunatic> thanks again haha
[19:30] <illunatic> i had the wrong ip addy before lol
[19:30] <avi_> Is there any real danger in disabling a thermal module, or should the lower-level systems manage on their own?
[19:35] <eitreach> I need some assistance with adding my external drive to fstab.
[19:35] <user_> blueyed: no, nothing popping up, just telling me wrong pw
[19:35] <xrandr> ok, i am using kubuntu 9.10 -- what software packages do I need to install to get my logitech webcam to work?
[19:38] <blueyed> user_: I see. Also very odd. You might file a bug about this. Might be even easier to debug than my problem.. ;)
[19:38] <user_> sure it's just some fucked up settings
[19:38] <user_> as not all users have this 'bug'
[19:39] <blueyed> like with mine.. but you can probably manually trigger pinentry somehow and see what it does.. try "pinentry-qt" in a shell. There's a debug flag, but I don't know what to tell him ("orders").
[19:40] <foormea> hey, aren't i supposed to have pulseaudio installed by default in karmic?!
[19:41] <blueyed> not with Kubuntu AFAIK
[19:41] <blueyed> But I have installed both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[19:41] <blueyed> Most KDE apps do not use pulseaudio though (in Karmic), which is a heaven sent in some cases.
[19:42] <foormea> installing pulseaudio should just fix my vlc/mplayer issue?
[19:42] <foormea> that's weird though, i didn't have this problem with my laptop
[19:42] <foormea> vlc and mplayer 'just work' on my laptop on a fresh karmic
[19:42] <foormea> but i'm having this issue on my netbook
[19:42] <blueyed> vlc works fine for me, but maybe needs some configuration (backend) only.
[19:43] <blueyed> foormea: then it's prolly something different/buggy.
[19:43] <foormea> mh
[19:44] <foormea> i'll be right back
[19:49] <BULLMAN> Hi
[19:50] <BULLMAN> I have a problem, whenever I try to close a tab on firefox or opera I cannot use the ctrl F4 keystroke
[19:50] <BULLMAN> It says that combination is assigned to something else in KDE
[19:50] <BULLMAN> kde 4.3 here
[19:50] <BULLMAN> any ideas on what can i do?
[19:53] <blueyed> BULLMAN: for me, ctrl-f4 switches to desktop 4. Try Ctrl-W instead.
[19:53] <BULLMAN> control w closes the whole firefox
[19:53] <BULLMAN> not the tab
[19:53] <blueyed> BULLMAN: not for me. Are you confusing ctrl-w with alt-f4?
[19:54] <BULLMAN> no
[19:54] <BULLMAN> alt F4 closes the window
[19:54] <BULLMAN> just as ctrl w does
[19:54] <macisp2000> So does the new firefox 3.6 show up on the system updates?  Or what do you have to do?
[19:54] <blueyed> odd.
[19:55] <BULLMAN> I tried to look for the keyboard shortcuts on system preferences but I just cannot find any ctrl f4
[19:55] <blueyed> macisp2000: no in Karmic, and even not in Lucid until now/yesterday. Try http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/ instead.
[19:56] <blueyed> BULLMAN: pressing ctrl-f4 does nothing for you? or does it switch to desktop 4, too?
[19:56] <BULLMAN> nope
[19:56] <BULLMAN> ctrl f4 does nothing at all
[19:57] <blueyed> but who says it's registered? when you want to assign a new shortcut?
[19:58] <BULLMAN> i dont know what happened, at first it used to work fine
[19:58] <BULLMAN> ctrl f4 to close tabs
[20:00] <macisp2000> I downloaded it from firefox website.  Extracted it in my downloads folder.  I can run it from my downloads folder, but I have no idea were to put it normally?
[20:01] <blueyed> macisp2000: use the project, I've mentioned: they provide the original builds via a repo for easy installation/upgrade.
[20:02] <blueyed> macisp2000: otherwise, you could create a local .desktop file for launching or just a script in ~/bin maybe. But I suggest you take the ubuntuzilla route. Makes upgrades easier, too.
[20:04] <macisp2000> thanks
[20:09] <user_> genii: any other ideas??
[20:10] <genii> macisp2000: You might want to try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[20:11] <genii> user_: Did you do anything recently other than updates, which might have affected gpg (made a new key, revoked a key, etc) ?
[20:17] <BULLMAN> Found the soluton for my ctrl F4
[20:17] <BULLMAN> it was assigned to KWin
[20:17] <BULLMAN> to change to desktop 4
[20:17] <BULLMAN> but since I had only 2 desktops
[20:17] <BULLMAN> i didnt realize it had this action assigned
[20:18] <BULLMAN> I deleted this shortcut on kwin
[20:18] <BULLMAN> and now it works
[20:18] <BULLMAN> thanks, bye bye
[20:23] <Sakui`_> how do you disable hardware?
[20:35] <user_> genii: no. and they problem is already there for some time now. i think, all I did was upgrade to karmic
[20:35] <user_> the*
[20:46] <genii> user_: Perhaps to try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnupg-agent
[21:04] <bdizzle> hi, I was hoping someone could help me to get my SD card to be recognized by the internal card reader
[21:11] <DarkSmoke> hello
[21:11] <DarkSmoke> why is kde bluetooth loosing its adapter settings?
[21:11] <DarkSmoke> for example i set the adapter as discoverable, i press ok, and it turns to hidden again
[21:11] <DarkSmoke> :S
[21:12] <Tm_T> DarkSmoke: rightaway or after some time?
[21:12] <DarkSmoke> right away
[21:12] <Tm_T> ok, that's not right then
[21:12] <DarkSmoke> :/
[21:13] <user_> genii: did that
[21:13] <user_> did not help
[21:13] <user_> or maybe I need a restart for it to take effect?
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> is there any solution Tm_Tr
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> is there any solution Tm_T ?
[21:14] <Tm_T> DarkSmoke: no idea, sorry
[21:14] <DarkSmoke> ok
[21:14] <bdizzle> I have a Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia card reader and would love for it to be able to recognize and mount SD cards
[21:14] <bdizzle> can anyone help with that, by chance?
[21:46] <Nete> Hello, I am trying to divide my main 224 GB partition. Unfortunately it is mounted and I can't umount it.
[21:46] <Nete> What can I do?
[21:48] <genii> Nete: Boot to livecd and repartition it from there
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Nete, you can't partition a mounted partition from with the OS, you can do so with a live cd or a part editor like gparted
[21:49] <Nete> Ok, Thank you... but does the livecd come with partition manager?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> livecd and gparted is also alive cd ,but only for aprtitioning
[21:53] <BluesKaj> oops lemme rephrase that , gparted is alive cd partitioner
[22:18] <jirik> Hi, I do not have the option "Move windows to group" in window menu. I use Kubuntu 9.10 KDE SC 4.4 RC2 - what could be wrong?
[22:19] <tony32> does kubuntu encrypt the home directory like ubuntu?
[22:20] <Tm_T> tony32: if you choose so, I think
[22:20] <tony32> i don't recall it giving me an option. is it too late once installed?
[22:20] <Tm_T> I guess no (:
[22:25] <fuego2> where can download Kubuntu 9.10 KDE SC 4.4 RC2?
[22:26] <Mamarok> fuego2: see http://kubuntu.org
[22:27] <Daughain> How do I get badblocks to mark the bad sectors so they are not used on reformat?
[22:28] <werfact> tony32: dont encrypt, it might f up and youll be screwed
[22:29] <tony32> ok, guess i will
[22:30] <fuego2> kubuntu 9.10 with kwin effects, is a very slow system...
[22:30] <fuego2> and... for me, is a winvista/7 "free"
[22:32] <fuego2> is the same thing...
[22:34] <fuego2> bleh! long life to gnome! && debian! :) all the best!
[22:38] <marek_> ?
[22:39] <illunatic> hm this appears to be inaccurate http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[22:39] <illunatic> anyone know where to find panel settings?
[22:39] <illunatic> heh apps aren't showing in taskbar :X
[22:39] <illunatic> accidentally closed the panel
[22:40] <illunatic> found some settings right-clicking
[22:40] <illunatic> but aaah don't know how to get it back
[22:40] <james_l> if you have a terminal open or type alt-f2 and 'plasma-desktop'
[22:41] <james_l> if you have the terminal open type that as well.
[22:41] <illunatic> o there i got it
[22:41] <illunatic> had to add taskbar widget
[22:41] <illunatic> thanks
[22:42] <illunatic> task manager* widget that is
[22:42] <illunatic> kubuntu: so easy, even i can do it
[22:51] <xman> hello
[22:54] <happy> hi
[23:04] <damanmagee> can this channel be used to get support for programs running on kubuntu
[23:04] <Tm_T> yes
[23:05] <happy> of course :-)
[23:06] <damanmagee> thanks. cant get sound to work on gyachi messenger, i have selected pulse audio plug in but no luck, im running kubuntu 9.10
[23:10] <damanmagee> btw As a new user to linux after buying windows 7 i must say what a trully professional operating system, been using it now for about 3 weeks and cant seem to stop
[23:12] <wizkoder> use windows 7! you bought it!
[23:12] <BluesKaj> damanmagee, does your soundcard test ok as the primary sound server ?
[23:13] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio isn,
[23:13] <BluesKaj> 'tnecea
[23:13] <BluesKaj> err necessary
[23:14] <damanmagee> I was previously a user of amiga 1200 and loved it but that died off so i become a windows user after buying windows 7 was bored of the same old stuff so i tried ubuntu and loved it than used the kde interface as kubuntu and i love it
[23:15] <BluesKaj> damanmagee, look in system settings/multimedia for your audio card
[23:15] <damanmagee> my sound card is intel but i have to use the pulse audio in the system settings of kubuntu cos the default intel doesnt work
[23:15] <BluesKaj> !intelhda
[23:16] <damanmagee> yes intel hda
[23:19] <damanmagee> thanks for that info ubottu
[23:21] <BluesKaj> ubottu, is an info bot
[23:21] <damanmagee> dope
[23:21] <BluesKaj> hehe, not really ..we were all new once
[23:22] <damanmagee> does anyone use google chrome browser on kubuntu
[23:25] <happy> damanmagee: I do
[23:26] <damanmagee> used to use opera found it fast but buggy on certain websites, chrome is very fast and so far stable
[23:27] <BluesKaj> <--uses google-chrome aswell
[23:30] <damanmagee> I have been pleasently surprised at the software support for linux by some of the big software companies, its beyond me why linux isnt more mass market that what it is
[23:35] <marcosRz> guys
[23:35] <marcosRz> how do I sort the kde menu by app name?
[23:36] <damanmagee> i downloaded thunderbird 3 and created a desktop link to the program, however when i try to change the icon that is allocated i get a error could not save properties you dont have  sufficiant access to write
[23:36] <damanmagee> any ideas please
[23:38] <BluesKaj> damanmagee, open the konsole and type update-rc.d  , it might work
[23:39] <marcosRz> how do I SORT the kde menu by app name?
[23:41] <tony32> could anyone tell me how to download via subversion?
[23:41] <tony32> or build with it?
[23:41] <damanmagee> usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove
[23:41] <damanmagee>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK]
[23:41] <damanmagee>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] .
[23:41] <damanmagee>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5]
[23:41] <damanmagee>                 -n: not really
[23:41] <FloodBotK2> damanmagee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <damanmagee>                 -f: force
[23:42] <damanmagee> sorry
[23:42] <damanmagee> that gave error
[23:44] <axiom> Why can't I have sound from KDE app *and* flash apps in the same session.  Why does it have to be one or the other?
[23:45] <marcosRz> Am I the only one who thinks KPackageKit sucks? I mean Synaptic is way better
[23:45] <BluesKaj> axiom, install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:45] <BluesKaj> marcosRz, nope, youaren't theonly one :)
[23:46] <marcosRz> I mean
[23:46] <axiom> BluesKaj: Yes, I have that installed
[23:46] <marcosRz> I try to keep *loyal* to kde
[23:47] <marcosRz> but theres like major stuff that sucks on kde
[23:47] <marcosRz> for example
[23:47] <marcosRz> browser
[23:47] <marcosRz> why can't kde have a decent browser?
[23:47] <marcosRz> I feel sick to use firefox/chromium under KDE :(
[23:47] <marcosRz> Yes I've tried arora/rekonq/konqueror
[23:47] <axiom> BluesKaj: Flash work with sound, sometime if I "sudo alsa force-reload" enough times, but something is not right
[23:48] <crimsun> axiom: 64-bit or 32-bit?
[23:48] <axiom> I am on 64-bit
[23:48] <crimsun> axiom: don't use flashplugin
[23:48] <crimsun> sorry
[23:48] <crimsun> axiom: don't use flashplugin-installer; use the native 64-bit alpha from labs.adobe
[23:49] <damanmagee> is there any need to install the java runtime on kubuntu, what programs use it?
[23:49] <axiom> Well, yes, I know, there is a 64-bit plugin, and it works great and doesn't crash, but I could never get sound out of it
[23:49] <crimsun> axiom: and you are /not/ using PulseAudio, correct?
[23:50] <axiom> Hmmm.. I think pulseaudio is the only way to run surround sound, no?
[23:50] <crimsun> axiom: no
[23:50] <axiom> Is there a page somewhere that expains how audio should work in KDE, because I have read a lot of differnent things and am kinda confused
[23:51] <BluesKaj> interesting crimsun , I'm using 64 bit nad flashplugin-nonfree works just fine
[23:51] <BluesKaj> and
[23:51] <crimsun> BluesKaj: it works for some people
[23:51] <axiom> so should I be using esound?
[23:51] <crimsun> axiom: no
[23:51] <axiom> alsa then?
[23:52] <crimsun> axiom: you always have ALSA unless you explicitly compile and install OSS v4
[23:52] <axiom> alright..
[23:52] <crimsun> axiom: so, do you have PA active?
[23:53] <axiom> I just uninstalled it
[23:53] <crimsun> axiom: uninstall or purge?
[23:53] <crimsun> axiom: if you're going to get rid of PA, you need to purge it
[23:55] <crimsun> axiom: after you've purged pulseaudio, you need to killall pulseaudio
[23:56] <crimsun> axiom: then, you need to (re)configure KDE System Settings > Multimedia and put PulseAudio at the bottom/lowest priority
[23:56] <marcosRz> damn
[23:56] <marcosRz> I'm using synaptic right know
[23:56] <marcosRz> I feel so sick
[23:56] <marcosRz> :(
[23:56] <FloodBotK2> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <axiom> pulseadio is gone, and amrok still works
[23:57] <axiom> I need to get rid of the 32-buit flash theb
[23:58] <axiom> but when I try to "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree" it tries to also uninstall kde...
[23:59] <crimsun> axiom: huh? perhaps kubuntu-restricted-extras?