[01:51] howdy [01:59] hiya cjohnston [01:59] hey Pendulum :) [02:00] hey Pendulum nigel_nb [02:00] * nigel_nb gives award of merit to cjohnston , Pendulum , and _marx_ [02:01] for all the hard work! [02:01] and pleia2 ! [02:02] doh! missed pleia2 ! her too!! [02:02] hi guys :D [02:02] hey DiegoTc :) [02:03] hi nigel_nb [02:03] again [02:03] cjohnston, pleia2 USA Team lost yesterday [02:03] lol [02:03] usa lost wat? [02:03] soccer [02:03] bah [02:03] I only watch cricket [02:05] nigel_nb, soccer is cool [02:06] http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2010/01/US-vs-Honduras-Post-match-Quote-Sheet.aspx [02:06] yeah, but india never makes it to the world cup ;) [02:06] nigel_nb, you are from india? [02:06] yeah [02:07] nigel_nb, well Honduras Team also until this year(28 years without going to a world cup) [02:07] ah [02:09] nigel_nb, from what part of india are you? [02:18] DiegoTc, bangalore [02:21] * cjohnston thinks he us bugging pleia2 again.. lol [02:22] hahaha [02:25] I think so too! [02:25] but I'm thinking I'm bugging everyone with my enthusiasm [02:26] lol [02:26] im working on my todo list that she gave me [02:26] hehe [02:26] anything on the todo that has "remind nigel to .."? [02:29] i dunno [02:30] ah, remember it now [02:30] classroom logo [04:55] mhall119: are you there? [04:55] mhall119: solved evolution issue with u1? [05:07] uggh [05:07] * cjohnston cant sleep [05:16] cjohnston: :-) [05:17] hey shrini [05:17] cjohnston: hello :-) [05:18] cjohnston: still working? [05:18] define working [05:19] cjohnston: hahahaha [05:19] at work.. no [05:20] cant sleep.. so im going to take care of stuff on my todo list [05:20] cjohnston: fine :-) [05:20] cjohnston: great. === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [13:13] morning/evening everyone [13:13] * nigel_nb yawns [13:13] morning [13:14] :) [13:14] did u see my PM yesterday? [13:14] yep, is that idea different from the one I posted to the list? [13:15] when? where? [13:15] yesterday, replying to your post [13:15] 24 hours would be great, we just need to recruit volunteers from other tzs [13:16] ah, yeah, but then, I was thinking of it across 3 days [13:16] now, I'm thinking of an all in one day effort [13:16] ah, gotcha [13:16] we can divide it across the membership regions [13:16] * pleia2 nods [13:17] so 3 groups work for 8 hours and we'll be dne [13:17] probably groups of 3 each or somethin [13:17] were you thinking the same sessions at each one? [13:17] no [13:17] we could have one session repeating thrice [13:17] "Whats new in Lucid" [13:18] everything else has to change I think [13:18] the idea is everyone gets to participate, the drawback is everyone misses some part of it [13:18] it has to change? [13:19] I don't see a huge problem with repeating some sessions, as what we have volunteers for dictates [13:20] we "could" repeat, I dont mind. [13:20] like each team change, we repeat all courses, but new instructors [13:21] another drawback is EU has a lot of languages, we mite need to get a french and german at least [13:21] if only for their TZ times [13:21] a lot of europeans speak english [13:21] I think we delegate decisions like that to the regional team running it though :) [13:22] true [13:22] even AlanBell 's suggestion has a lot of merit [13:23] a different sort of branding as a 24-hour round the globe teaching conference with keynotes and all the works [13:23] i'm all +1 for that one [13:24] oh and pleia2, you'd forgotten to unmute the classroom ;) [13:25] that was my job? [13:25] * AlanBell would prefer the classroom to be muted as much as possible still [13:25] cjohnston was the one removing all the modes :) [13:25] AlanBell: people do impromtu sessions and ask about the project there [13:25] i dont have op if u remember [13:26] and well, jono was testing lernid [13:26] a lot of problems we faced have been solved now [13:26] great :) [13:26] especially the : problem [13:26] thank goodness [13:26] pleia2: yes, I understand that, just there are quite a few lernid clients idling [13:27] the : bug that has been fixed is the cosmetic one causing spurious errors [13:28] and I think the web interface is gone! [13:28] but one may need to branch the code and run it with quickly, I'm not if there is a new package for karmic yet [13:28] ah, in that case it might be safe [13:58] mornin [13:58] Good Morning cjohnston [14:00] I specifically remember unmuting the classroom [14:00] prior to unopping everone [14:23] mornin pendulum_ [14:25] Hiya cjohnston [14:26] How are you this am? [14:30] Wet. Pouring and windy in NYC this morning [14:30] :-( [14:30] its wet here too.. but im not goin out side, so i dont much care.. lol [14:31] here too, and crazy warm, 61F out! [14:33] 57* [14:33] hey jamalta [14:33] bye jamalta [14:35] Around 55 here [14:36] * cjohnston misses the cold that we had [14:36] whos participating in udw this week? [14:43] I've got to work, although am going to pay attention as much as possible [14:43] :( [14:45] pendulum_: someone has to work. :-( I'm working Tueday Friday this week and luckly those two days there wasn't much I really wanted to be a part of... [14:46] Yeah, I'd be less grumpy if I didn't need a day off [14:47] okay, my power company decided to cut 2 hours now, 1 hour in the morning and 1 in the evening :( [14:47] :( [14:49] that sucks nigel_nb [14:49] big time yeah :( [14:49] tell them to cut yours in the middle of the night when your at work.. lol [14:49] ha, I wish [14:52] I'm glad we havent gotten to that yet [14:52] cjohnston, dont we need a new meeting to discuss post- user day? [14:53] nigel_nb: get off your high [14:53] lol [14:53] we are going to.. [14:53] I doubt if I ever can [14:53] lol [14:54] I'm already on the hunt for volunteers to help host, especially in differnt TZ's [14:54] lol [14:55] for example, I miss-managed [14:55] if I had slept early, you folks, would have gotten some rest towords the end when I could have taken over [14:57] * nigel_nb is getting new lernid version now ;) [14:58] nigel_nb: it works nicely.. i played with the bug fixes @ 230 [14:58] only thing is, is there a package for karmic? [14:58] I only see one for lucid [15:00] im tryin to find the ppa for you [15:01] nigel_nb: http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/01/25/ubuntu-developer-week-begins-and-new-lernid-release-to-enjoy-it-with/ [15:02] seems like every time jono blogs it shows up in my reader 4 times [15:03] lol [15:03] cjohnston: because he's that awesome [15:03] Do you have feeds for multiple planets or something going into your reader? [15:03] lol [15:03] I am subscribed to his blog, planet, and canonical [15:03] no wonder [15:03] i should prolly remove his [15:05] posted to the UBT mailing list: [15:05] As a non-team member and a beginning ubuntu user, I can say that I was [15:05] totally blown away by the recent User Days, the success of which, from [15:05] my observation, belongs to the BT. Whatever lack of activity that may [15:05] have been sensed over the last few weeks, User Days more than [15:05] compensates for that. You guys rock. Thanks for an awesome User Day. [15:07] when did this come in? [15:07] ah [15:07] he mentioned that to me yday too :) [15:14] cjohnston, LOL NOTE: We have heard of a bug when clicking Edit->Preferences causing Lernid to crash. Right now the workaround is * don’t click on preferences.* :P [15:14] heh [15:14] yup [15:15] we discovered that bug last night [15:15] ah [15:15] I missed that part :( I was around when he started testing but got cut off later on [15:15] btw, all the bugs logged had branches within the time we finished user days [15:16] the community rocks, never seen such quick fixes popping up O_O [15:17] Has anyone replied to Hellow? [15:17] If not I will. [15:17] you can [15:17] I was writing [15:17] * pleia2 busy at work today [15:17] pleia2: ! [15:17] oh fun [15:17] I'll try not to bug you too much then [15:17] :-P [15:18] * pleia2 ran out of creamer for her coffee, it's not a good day ;) [15:18] pleia2, black coffee then ;) [15:18] aww [15:19] cjohnston, anything specific you want to add - I'm just saying "its okay, in future let us know" [15:19] You going to respond? [15:19] I was responding when you were asking [15:19] ok.. [15:19] nah.. nothing else.. [15:20] "We're sorry that you weren't able to participate either. In future, do let us know if possible. [15:20] " [15:20] I dont know that id even put in the future let us know... [15:20] ok, so only first sentence ;) [15:20] since he already admitted that he should have.. [15:20] ok [15:21] i'll change to "We're sorry that you weren't able to participate either." [15:21] Just say thanks for your willingness to help out, and hopefully things will work out better next time.. and acknowledge that starcraft.man did an excellend job taking care of the course on 4 minutes notice [15:21] okay [15:22] basically just acknowledge the fact that he sent us an apology and that starcraft fixed it for us [15:22] good thing starcraft isnt in here.. his head would be swelling [15:22] lol [15:23] hehe [15:25] it should be ;) , he did a great job [15:25] lernid is a beauty now ;) [15:25] wish I were here to participate :( [15:26] I wish telepathy-idle would use my socks proxy so I could use lernid [15:27] mhall119|work, add feature request bug [15:27] someone will submit a branch for it [15:27] mhall119|work: i dont believe that outside of the first session anything from lernid will be specifically used... [15:27] +1 [15:27] lol [15:27] nigel_nb: yeah, but telepathy-idle gets to little love I doubt anything would be done [15:27] but it was requested that the first session (by jono) dh would do slides to show it off [15:28] mhall119|work, well, by the time we were done with user days,the : but was fixed in branches [15:28] so, I think someone would do something [15:28] even quense was telling telepathy-idle has issues [15:28] anyone on twitter/identi.ca/?? post a quick thing about UDW getting ready to start... ;-) [15:28] yea [15:28] done! [15:28] nigel_nb: this isn't a lernid issue though [15:29] cjohnston: you post and I'll RT you again :P [15:29] I already poste [15:29] posted [15:29] lol [15:29] posted [15:30] cjohnston: what's your twitter/identi.ca name? I don't think I'm following you [15:30] chris_johnston/chrisjohnston respectivly [15:30] cjohnston, you posted to the ubuntu group? [15:30] where? [15:30] identi.ca [15:30] umm [15:30] ?? [15:31] * cjohnston doesnt know much about identi.ca [15:31] there are groups on identi.ca and if u post on it, a lot more people will see it [15:31] How do I do that [15:32] well, first you have to subscribe here http://identi.ca/group/ubuntu [15:32] then when you post, you put !ubuntu and it will post to ubuntu group [15:32] I'm re-tweeting dholbach's instead [15:32] heh [15:32] well fine then [15:32] see if i care [15:32] sorry, his was handy [15:33] it also had the correct time, UDW starts in 30 minutes, not 1.5 hours [15:34] :-P [15:34] haha [15:35] I told dholbach about the interest in a german user day [15:35] I'll have to mail a few people and get things started [15:38] pleia2: wants to feel special with a voice in -classroom :-P [15:39] bah, silly thing [15:39] lol [15:40] cjohnston, btw, i think you forgot to -m classroom yday [15:40] no, he did -m, I checked the logs [15:40] I could have sworn i did it [15:40] I accused pleia2, but she said she was innocent lol [15:40] lol [15:40] chanserv +m-ed later for some reason [15:40] im innocent too! [15:40] yay [15:40] ah! [15:40] i love it tho.. guilty until proven innocent [15:40] yeah, french system [15:40] too many windows! [15:40] thats the american system [15:41] hey, american is other way around or are you kidding? [15:41] right [15:41] uh huh [15:41] not [15:42] cjohnston: uh, you probably shouldn't spam channels like that [15:42] you're going to get yourself banned [15:42] pleia2: other than #x/k I was told to [15:42] nigel_nb: it's *supposed* to be innocent until proven guilty in the US, doesn't generally work that way, however [15:43] ah [15:43] cjohnston: want to stick with doing it only on channels where you have explicit permission :) [15:43] I did plan to learn law at one point ;) my memory is still good [15:44] joining help channels you've never been in to advertise events like #x makes you look like a spammer [15:44] this is not a standard practice for *any* event [15:44] k [15:49] didn't mean to come off as harsh, I just don't want to see you getting in trouble :) [15:50] * cjohnston is crying in the corner [15:50] hehe [15:50] aw [15:50] * Pendulum hugs cjohnston [15:50] hope hates the fact that i can cry on demand [15:50] :P [15:50] pleia2: you have no creamer and i have cold coffee :-( [15:51] boo [15:51] * pleia2 blames monday [15:51] lol [15:52] Whenever you get time (I know you said your busy today) can you take a look at the recrutment page and see if its missing anything.. and also at the todo email to see if anything else needs to get done with that? [15:52] yeah, I will be free after 4EST so I'll have a look then :) [15:52] cjohnston: she really does control your TODO list, doesn't she? [15:53] uh huh [15:53] sounds good [15:53] woo I have minions! [15:53] ;) [15:53] btw, I suggest for the next UUD we have a blueprint [15:53] pleia2: you have someone with too much time on their hands [15:54] I also want to get the usteams structure for the approved teams interviews done so I can hand it off to cjohnston^Wsomeone [15:54] huh what [15:54] im not sure that was english [15:54] haha [15:55] ok folks, I'm off to work [15:55] bye nigel_nb ! [15:55] catch y'all 2morrow [15:55] its republic day 2morrow and I wont be online, I'll be out playing football with a few friends [15:56] cjohnston: I don't do anything with the US locos and I understood it ;) [15:56] cjohnston: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us/2010-January/000556.html this idea needs to be documented, fleshed out, and implemented (probably for february) [16:02] hmmms... okie [16:03] hrm, gnome-keyring? [16:03] I never configured the gnome-keyring, I use xubuntu [16:04] * pleia2 frowns at it [16:04] what about gnome-keyring? [16:04] lernid was asking for access to it [16:05] o [16:05] lol [16:05] <_marx_> jsut your passwd should make peace with it [16:05] _marx_: if only that had worked [16:05] <_marx_> ah :( [16:05] ended up just deleting whatever default keyring that was lurking in my .gnome2 directory [16:06] heh [16:07] and neat, it doesn't use webchat anymore :) [16:37] do be do be do [16:41] cjohnston: bored already? [16:41] nope. [16:41] well [16:41] always [16:41] but not any moreso than normal [16:42] dholbach is keeping me busy(ish) [16:42] heh [16:42] was going to say that it looked like there were plenty of questions in -classroom-chat [16:43] i guess i should open a session that doesnt have everything blocked to look for spam [17:08] * cjohnston is working on the clean off desk part of todo list.. that one wasnt assigned by pleia2 [17:08] hah [17:08] that might actually be more fun than what I'm doing [17:09] i dunno about that [17:10] I'm counting characters in a printed book to come up with an approximate character count for the entire book that can then be used to come up with an approximate page count if the book were to be done with different width of type, font, number of lines per page, etc. [17:11] ya [17:11] ummm [17:11] ill pass [17:11] lol [17:11] <_marx_> oh my Pendulum you have my sympathies [17:11] I did this for about 6 hours yesterday too [17:12] good book atleast? :-P [17:12] well I'm not reading it as I work, but I do think I will borrow this one for a week to read ;) [17:12] lol [17:14] I work for a company that's kinda odd in that other people contract out to us [17:14] (not normal in publishing, usually production is in-house) [17:14] heh [17:14] my main client, though, is Tor [17:14] (specifically their mass market stuff) [17:14] which means free Tor books for me ;) [17:19] hmm.. whats a tor book? [17:21] they do "genre" fiction [17:21] Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind, Orson Scott Card are their big authors [17:21] they also do mysteries and some military-type novels [17:22] ic [17:22] * cjohnston doesnt like reading non-tech books [17:30] i cant stand how the library doesnt have the books that i want.. i dont want to buy them [17:32] asked them to get the books [17:32] chances are if you want to read them, others will also [17:32] the library wins [17:33] my library sucks [17:33] i can try tho [17:33] lol [17:34] I am lucky, my local library is part of a county-wide library system, if mine doesn't have it they can order it from another library in the system and get it delivered to their branch free so I can pick up :) [17:35] not that I make time for reading fiction anymore :\ [17:35] cjohnston: libraries are like FOSS projects, without the users it sucks. :) [17:36] lol [17:36] true [17:36] * IdleOne doesn't even have a library card :/ [17:36] mine is county wide.. i can order books online and they deliver to me.. but alot of stuff doesnt seem to be gotten [17:36] I suxxorz hard [17:39] * cjohnston wants a new desk [17:39] and a new lappy [17:42] Hi all. [17:43] hello [17:45] Does Ubuntu Community Learning Project offer courses or documentation pages? [17:46] I am a sysadmin who switched a few servers from Fedora core to Ubuntu, and wrote a bunch of tech notes that might be worth sharing. [17:47] I am thinking to either put up a website or just join Ubuntu documentation team. [18:06] popey: ping [18:06] hi cjohnston [18:06] sorry for dropping out on the weekend [18:06] feeling better I hope? [18:06] not a problem [18:06] yeah [18:06] although being back at work doesnt help ;) [18:07] never does [18:07] Pendulum: can you take about 10 minutes? [18:08] yep [18:08] cjohnston: you pung btw? [18:08] can someone +v me? [18:08] done [18:08] pung? [18:08] pinged [18:09] wanted to know if you were feeling better [18:09] btw if you need me to help with pasting questions I am here :). just ping me [18:09] Pendulum: he wants the questions as they come [18:09] ty IdleOne [18:09] oh, thanks :) [18:09] cjohnston: I know :) [18:09] absolutely [18:09] just makin sure.. hehe [18:09] brb [18:17] ty Pendulum... i can take it back [18:18] k [18:18] unless I'm not here (which I'll let you know) feel free to poke me at any other point you want a break [18:18] thanks! your the best [18:19] just wait for me to confirm I"m around in case I'm in the boss's office or something and don't see it ;) [18:20] ya.. absolutely [18:30] DiegoTc: how was the feedback from your ud? [18:30] I am going to see right now [18:30] yesterday only 37 answers :( [18:30] 32 for us [18:31] really?? [18:31] ya [18:31] cjohnston: do i give you the results?? [18:32] you dont have to... [18:32] well only 39 answers [18:36] cjohnston: I think an answer i should share is the las [18:36] last one [18:37] when should the next USD should be [18:37] everyone said that 2 times the year] [18:37] ok [18:40]