=== KatieKitty is now known as KatieOffline === KatieOffline is now known as KatieKitty === KatieKitty is now known as KatieOffline [03:45] hey === KatieOffline is now known as KatieKitty === KatieKitty is now known as KatieOffline === KatieOffline is now known as KatieKitty [10:29] KatieKitty: hi... could you turn off the nick changes ? as you can see from above , the channel is mostly flooded with yours ;) [10:29] ops [10:29] sorry [10:29] :) [10:29] npp.. :) === Yos is now known as Yos_ === Yos_ is now known as Yos === roobiew_ is now known as robbiew === vish is now known as \vish [18:03] o/ [18:03] welcome! [18:04] \o [18:04] I'll start? [18:05] sure :) [18:05] today I'll be giving an ubuntu developer week presentation on how to run the devel release (that's at 1900UTC) [18:05] there are sekrit updates I'll be working on for release today [18:06] and then I'll probably be working on nautilus for the do-not-execute .desktop files stuff [18:06] sweet [18:06] timestamps? [18:06] persia also found a tiny glitch with the hardening behavior when using "ld" alone, which I think I can fix. [18:06] yeah, the idea I'm going to go with is timestamps [18:06] ctime, specifically [18:07] kees: You're fixing that? I won't bother to work around it then. [18:07] persia: I'm not sure I _can_ fix it; I'd prefer it just switch to using gcc. [18:07] OK. [18:07] * jjohansen waves [18:07] persia: but it is a regression from something that should normally build without a problem. [18:07] hi jjohansen! [18:08] persia: I just think I have an idea about it. haven't gotten much further [18:08] heya jjohansen [18:08] Right. Back to the meeting :) [18:08] :) [18:08] and speaking of jjohansen, I'd like to get the new upstream parser improvements into lucid too. [18:08] right, can we hold off a couple days [18:09] I have some more patches coming there [18:09] o/ [18:09] okay, cool [18:09] sorry I'm late [18:09] uhm, that's it from me. robbiew: no problem. that's why there's scrollback :) [18:10] jdstrand: your turn! [18:10] I'll go next [18:10] oups :P [18:10] oops [18:10] sorry, was trying to hand off. :) [18:10] jdstrand --- [18:10] who is going now? [18:11] :P [18:11] jdong: you [18:11] oups [18:11] heh [18:11] jdstrand: you [18:11] heh [18:11] \o/ [18:11] darn completion [18:11] now all three of you can fighting it out! [18:11] *gets scared* :) [18:11] sorry bout that jdong [18:11] what did I do!! ;-) [18:11] so I am in the happy place this week [18:11] hahaha no worries :) [18:12] I hope to finish some embedded expat updates and actually do the clamav from hardy-backports to -security [18:12] cool [18:12] beyond that, there are some ufw logging bugs that I've known about for a while that people are starting to bug me about, so I will look at SRUs for them [18:13] and I should get the libvert merge done too [18:13] oh, and look at (potentiallly) more firefox 3.6 (static build destined for lucid) apparmor packaging issues [18:14] firefox is getting renamed, so the packaging for the profile and the profile itself needed some updating. there might be a little more to do there [18:14] (that's all from me) [18:14] I'm on triage this week [18:15] and am working on a sekrit update also [18:15] * jdstrand feels left out [18:15] and I have mysql updates pending the new thing that came out today [18:15] I'll wait until we get a fix for that, or else, I'll publish mysql when we come back from sprint [18:16] and that's about it for me [18:16] jdstrand: s/static/monolithic/ yes? [18:17] i.e. it's still a dynamic executable, right? [18:17] kees: yeah-- monolithic. sorry, they've been abusing that term. the new firefox will use embedded code copies for most of the build (libc6 and a couple others being an exception) [18:18] okay, cool [18:18] kees: so we'll get all the compiler hardening, etc [18:18] well, technically we still would, but yes, dynamic for _really_ low level stuff. [18:18] which reminds me, I need to upgrade and try it now that its done building [18:19] s/its/it's/ [18:19] aiui, the compiler flags will still be there [18:19] it's just it won't use Ubuntu's libpng, for example [18:20] oh, it's in the NEW queue [18:20] jdstrand: yeah :( [18:21] well, yeah, we have to trust them, but they are doing that stuff anyway (ie updating libpng) [18:21] and we don't have a choice [18:21] * kees nods [18:21] anyhoo, old news [18:22] so, that's it? [18:22] does anyone have any questions/issues for the security team? [18:23] bye-bye [18:23] oh, we need to try to knock out a few more workitems: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-security.html [18:23] but, we know that already, so again, old news. :) [18:23] anything else? [18:24] kees: several things I mentioned I'm working on are work items [18:25] I don't have anything [18:25] jdstrand: yup, cool. same for me (nautilus) but I just wanted to paste the burndown anyway. :) [18:25] ok, thanks everyone! [18:25] heh === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:01] Laters folks.