[03:45] <jono> hey
[10:29] <vish> KatieKitty: hi... could you turn off the nick changes ? as you can see from above , the channel is mostly flooded with yours ;)
[10:29] <KatieKitty> ops
[10:29] <KatieKitty> sorry
[10:29] <KatieKitty> :)
[10:29] <vish> npp.. :)
[18:03] <jdstrand> o/
[18:03] <mdeslaur> welcome!
[18:04] <kees> \o
[18:04] <kees> I'll start?
[18:05] <mdeslaur> sure :)
[18:05] <kees> today I'll be giving an ubuntu developer week presentation on how to run the devel release (that's at 1900UTC)
[18:05] <kees> there are sekrit updates I'll be working on for release today
[18:06] <kees> and then I'll probably be working on nautilus for the do-not-execute .desktop files stuff
[18:06] <mdeslaur> sweet
[18:06] <mdeslaur> timestamps?
[18:06] <kees> persia also found a tiny glitch with the hardening behavior when using "ld" alone, which I think I can fix.
[18:06] <kees> yeah, the idea I'm going to go with is timestamps
[18:06] <kees> ctime, specifically
[18:07] <persia> kees: You're fixing that?  I won't bother to work around it then.
[18:07] <kees> persia: I'm not sure I _can_ fix it; I'd prefer it just switch to using gcc.
[18:07] <persia> OK.
[18:07]  * jjohansen waves
[18:07] <kees> persia: but it is a regression from something that should normally build without a problem.
[18:07] <mdeslaur> hi jjohansen!
[18:08] <kees> persia: I just think I have an idea about it.  haven't gotten much further
[18:08] <kees> heya jjohansen
[18:08] <persia> Right.  Back to the meeting :)
[18:08] <jjohansen> :)
[18:08] <kees> and speaking of jjohansen, I'd like to get the new upstream parser improvements into lucid too.
[18:08] <jjohansen> right, can we hold off a couple days
[18:09] <jjohansen> I have some more patches coming there
[18:09] <robbiew> o/
[18:09] <kees> okay, cool
[18:09] <robbiew> sorry I'm late
[18:09] <kees> uhm, that's it from me.  robbiew: no problem.  that's why there's scrollback :)
[18:10] <kees> jdstrand: your turn!
[18:10] <mdeslaur> I'll go next
[18:10] <mdeslaur> oups :P
[18:10] <kees> oops
[18:10] <kees> sorry, was trying to hand off.  :)
[18:10] <mdeslaur> jdstrand ---
[18:10] <jdstrand> who is going now?
[18:11] <jdstrand> :P
[18:11] <mdeslaur> jdong: you
[18:11] <mdeslaur> oups
[18:11] <kees> heh
[18:11] <mdeslaur> jdstrand: you
[18:11] <jdstrand> heh
[18:11] <jdstrand> \o/
[18:11] <mdeslaur> darn completion
[18:11] <kees> now all three of you can fighting it out!
[18:11] <jdong> *gets scared* :)
[18:11] <mdeslaur> sorry bout that jdong
[18:11] <jdong> what did I do!! ;-)
[18:11] <jdstrand> so I am in the happy place this week
[18:11] <jdong> hahaha no worries :)
[18:12] <jdstrand> I hope to finish some embedded expat updates and actually do the clamav from hardy-backports to -security
[18:12] <mdeslaur> cool
[18:12] <jdstrand> beyond that, there are some ufw logging bugs that I've known about for a while that people are starting to bug me about, so I will look at SRUs for them
[18:13] <jdstrand> and I should get the libvert merge done too
[18:13] <jdstrand> oh, and look at (potentiallly) more firefox 3.6 (static build destined for lucid) apparmor packaging issues
[18:14] <jdstrand> firefox is getting renamed, so the packaging for the profile and the profile itself needed some updating. there might be a little more to do there
[18:14] <jdstrand> (that's all from me)
[18:14] <mdeslaur> I'm on triage this week
[18:15] <mdeslaur> and am working on a sekrit update also
[18:15]  * jdstrand feels left out
[18:15] <mdeslaur> and I have mysql updates pending the new thing that came out today
[18:15] <mdeslaur> I'll wait until we get a fix for that, or else, I'll publish mysql when we come back from sprint
[18:16] <mdeslaur> and that's about it for me
[18:16] <kees> jdstrand: s/static/monolithic/ yes?
[18:17] <kees> i.e. it's still a dynamic executable, right?
[18:17] <jdstrand> kees: yeah-- monolithic. sorry, they've been abusing that term. the new firefox will use embedded code copies for most of the build (libc6 and a couple others being an exception)
[18:18] <kees> okay, cool
[18:18] <jdstrand> kees: so we'll get all the compiler hardening, etc
[18:18] <kees> well, technically we still would, but yes, dynamic for _really_ low level stuff.
[18:18] <kees> which reminds me, I need to upgrade and try it now that its done building
[18:19] <kees> s/its/it's/
[18:19] <jdstrand> aiui, the compiler flags will still be there
[18:19] <jdstrand> it's just it won't use Ubuntu's libpng, for example
[18:20] <kees> oh, it's in the NEW queue
[18:20] <kees> jdstrand: yeah :(
[18:21] <jdstrand> well, yeah, we have to trust them, but they are doing that stuff anyway (ie updating libpng)
[18:21] <jdstrand> and we don't have a choice
[18:21]  * kees nods
[18:21] <jdstrand> anyhoo, old news
[18:22] <mdeslaur> so, that's it?
[18:22] <mdeslaur> does anyone have any questions/issues for the security team?
[18:23] <mdeslaur> bye-bye
[18:23] <kees> oh, we need to try to knock out a few more workitems: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-security.html
[18:23] <kees> but, we know that already, so again, old news.  :)
[18:23] <kees> anything else?
[18:24] <jdstrand> kees: several things I mentioned I'm working on are work items
[18:25] <jdstrand> I don't have anything
[18:25] <kees> jdstrand: yup, cool.  same for me (nautilus) but I just wanted to paste the burndown anyway.  :)
[18:25] <kees> ok, thanks everyone!
[18:25] <jdstrand> heh
[21:01] <Smex> Laters folks.