[00:17] micahg: all good? [01:08] asac: it didn't run since I had uncommited changes..running now [01:25] running? [01:31] uncommitted changes usually work with bzr bd ... just not bzr rm i think [01:34] asac: not if files are missing :) [01:35] I removed 2 of the files from TB2 pkg dir [01:35] the tb-dom-inspector [01:35] 02:31 < asac> uncommitted changes usually work with bzr bd ... just not bzr rm i think [01:35] tb2 pkg dir? [01:35] how did that come in the branch again [01:36] my fault [01:36] k [01:37] so ... in any case, please push your stuff up to some private branch before you go off [01:37] * micahg didn't know what was useless before [01:37] k [01:37] otherwise i probabl ywould end up redoing anything [01:37] i wouldnt have added anything [01:37] until the package rename works [01:37] thats too much at once [01:37] firs step: make package work [01:37] second: improve [01:38] but ok [01:38] * micahg knows for next time [01:38] * micahg thought making =TB2 was step 1 [01:40] thats why i said, you should copy your work when done to some other place and think about atomic steps you can split that up [01:41] helops a lot when one does that [01:41] so, push to private branch [01:41] remerge small pieces into head? [01:42] well. better remerge small pieces into another private branch and give me the url when ready [01:42] i will pull that in if its good :) [01:42] heh, ok [01:43] such refactorings definitly require peer review ;) [01:43] it's nice to have peer review ;) [01:44] laptop at 81C [01:47] heh [01:47] too much building [01:48] yeah [01:54] building + flash [02:01] flash is hot ;) [02:01] yes [02:12] ugh, my tarball is bad [02:13] I'll generate a new one from the tag [02:14] hi micah [02:15] hi joelinux [02:15] sorry for jumping, but are you talking about a thunderbird tarball [02:16] joelinux: yes [02:16] you mentioned from a tag. Did you call with client.py to extract? [02:17] get-orig-source handles all that [02:17] once it's set up [02:17] I was having a problem with that. I guess I had it set up wrong. [02:27] micahg: I think the stuff I did on seamonkey can help out with TB [02:28] joelinux: TB's not broke, it's PEBKAC error [02:28] what PEBKAC? [02:28] !PEBKAC [02:28] problem exists between keyboard and chair [02:29] :-) [02:48] * micahg hopes this is the last build for TB3 [02:49] Are you working on the stable branch, 3.0.1 or a different one? [02:49] 3.0 [02:49] * micahg is slamming his HD today [02:50] I bet [02:50] xfs [02:50] not made for builds [02:50] really. I usually go with ext3/4 [02:51] are you pulling the orig source each time? [02:51] no [02:52] but it recreates the build env when you use a new tarball [02:52] good, cause that really hurts the drive ( and bandwidth) [02:52] making builds hurts the drive too :( [02:54] unless they're scsi drives [03:35] asac: I pushed my branch up under myself [03:35] built fine from start to finish [03:56] asac: I'm not going to be able to merge the finished product into smaller commits before tomorrow night [03:58] asac: here's the branch I pushed if you want to work on it: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/thunderbird/thunderbird.head-TB3 [04:02] asac: also report a bug doesn't quite work right, so I'd say drop the patch if you push it tomorrow [06:10] anyone know where exactly in firefox it calls to the OS (linux specifically) to use a certain widget? reason being my widgets are messed up in kde 4.4 using firefox portable [06:10] the usual methods didn't work for portable firefox [08:40] asac, ccheney: about the firefox-3.6 transition: how to proceed with the translations in Launchpad? merge xulrunner into firefox? Is this update for all releases? [08:40] dpm: ^ [08:53] morning [10:08] hm, zero bugs in the team's launchpad bug tracker -- should I report straight upstream? [10:09] akaihola: you can report in ubuntu and upstrema ;) [10:10] and then connect the bugs [10:10] but in general yes, upstream is a better place to report firefox issues [10:11] better than reverting to Lucid's firefox, verifying that the bug exists there and reporting on Launchpad? [10:12] my issue *might* be a metacity problem instead [10:31] <[reed]> wait, how in the world did I miss the entire "multisearch" fiasco? [10:31] [reed]: seems you were disconnected ;) [10:31] <[reed]> I guess so [10:31] i was sure you were here when everybody ranted ;) [10:32] <[reed]> huh [10:32] but i think it was while you were off duty somewhat [10:32] how did that come up just noe? [10:32] now? [10:33] <[reed]> I saw it mentioned somewhere [10:33] <[reed]> it was mentioned in a comment on http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/01/video_freedom_a.html [10:34] heh [10:35] i think today we will announce multisearch II ;) [10:35] <[reed]> oh? [10:35] <[reed]> lol [10:36] <[reed]> good luck with that! [10:39] * vish hands asac_ a shield ... [for the rotten eggs he might receive ] ;) [10:40] vish: ahaha [10:41] BUGabundo_remote: heh , it was pretty funny , how the multisearch bug report became an asac_ hate-report ;) [10:44] multisearch fiasco? [10:45] vish: even asac blog.... man ppl are BAD [10:45] then again, I was among those, that didnt like my _regular_ searchs being intercepted, and removed the addon [11:34] mozilla 242852 [11:34] Mozilla bug 242852 in Menus "I wish that "Copy link text" were a hyperlink contextual menu option" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242852 [11:34] :p [13:24] hi all, could someone help me in telling me whether the [13:25] oops, typed enter too fast [13:25] again... [13:25] hi [13:25] ;) [13:25] could someone help me with bug 511837? I'm trying to tell if it's a translation issue [13:25] Launchpad bug 511837 in language-pack-ast "Latest language pack in 'karmic-proposed' breaks Firefox in Asturian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511837 [13:25] :) [13:27] hey asac:) [13:27] hi [13:27] dpm: the langpack thing moved to a different machine [13:27] talk to ArneGoetje [13:27] dont know what the status is [13:27] but it feels that langpacks could well be busted becaues of that migration [13:33] asac_ they seem to be ok for other languages, but that's a good point, ArneGoetje, do you think the 20090116 language pack PPA could have had the problem because of that? [13:54] dpm: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-ast there is no package in karmic-proposed [13:54] e.g. i cant really look [13:54] if you can get me a .deb to check i can take a look how bad it is [14:12] asac_ thanks for looking. yes, I asked pitti to remove it from -proposed. It was the same as this one -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/931940/+listing-archive-extra [14:14] dpm: the other langpacks are good? [14:15] asac_ I haven't tested them all, but at least the Catalan langpack I'm running did not give me any problems [14:15] let me install a few... [14:16] thats strange then [14:16] please post your chrome.manifest files [14:16] ... and you should definitly test all ... to prevent rollout [14:17] of an eventual busted thing from -proposed [14:17] unless pitti removed all now [14:18] if you hvae the langpack-o-matic log from that run it would be great [14:18] for now i would really think we should make a new run with the new infrastructure [14:19] asac_ yes, give me a sec and I'll post the chrome.manifest files... (we do call for testing and test them, that's why we first upload them to -proposed). ArneGoetje is running langpack-o-matic, so we'll have to wait until he comes back for the log [14:29] asac_ here are my chrome.manifest files (both are the same): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/362625 let me see if I can install the broken asturian langpack and post their chrome.manifest files [14:33] both are the same? hmm. [14:33] that feels wrong to begin with [14:33] there is something fishy ... maybe arne manually uploadde a en-US.xpi [14:33] and thought they were the same [14:34] chrome.manifest is in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/... [14:34] anyway ... i have to go and try to fix my email/irc gateway [14:34] I'm not sure, but these are not giving me any (apparent problems). Yes, it is there [14:35] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/langpack-ca@firefox-3.5.ubuntu.com/chrome.manifest [14:35] and [14:36] /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/extensions/langpack-ca@xulrunner-1.9.1.ubuntu.com/chrome.manifest [14:38] asac_: I think you are right, might have been my fault... [14:41] ArneGoetje, asac_ the Asturian ones look a bit different: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/362638 [14:41] good... have to run out for a few hours to fix my email/irc stuff [14:41] bbthen [14:43] They've got xulrunner-1.9.1-ast.jar or firefox-3.5-ast.jar instead of just ast.jar [14:44] ArneGoetje, what do you think the problem might be, then? [14:45] dpm: like asac said, I uploaded a en-US.xpi and thought it was the same as the existing one... [14:46] asac: if you have about 100 or so tabs open in ff does it crash on u im trying to determine if its just a bug in windows version of ff or also occurs on ubuntu as well [14:47] eagles0513875: I recently had 146 tabs open in the 3.5 one on Karmic and it didn't crash. [14:48] strange [14:48] then its a windows bug [14:48] causes strange runtime errors on windows [14:48] eagles0513875: we've had some reports of the same on linux [14:48] it's most likely caused by something in one of those tabs [14:48] If/when oopp lands, it might help [14:48] ok im thinking flash cuz friend of mine was talking to them about it and they said something about flash being the cause [14:49] ArneGoetje, I'm just trying to understand it, so does this affect all languages? Or is it the cause of the -ast problem? [14:51] dpm: probably those which only have translations in launchpad and not upstream [14:52] ArneGoetje, ok, so what do you think we should do? Do you think the translations for those languages be fixed, new langpacks only for them be built and then uploaded to -proposed? [14:53] dpm: let me take a look first [14:53] ok, thanks ArneGoetje [14:56] dpm: yep, as I thought. I need to upload the proper en-US.xpi for firefox and xulrunner again... that should fix the problem. [15:01] ArneGoetje, ah, ok. Oncee the new en-US.xpi template has been uploaded, would it be possible to request a build of the packages affected (if I understand it correctly only those languages translating directly upstream and only the language-pack-ll packages) on the PPA, so that we could copy them to -proposed? [15:02] dpm: I have to see [15:07] ok, thanks! [15:08] anyone able to give me an idea on what [flush-*] is in "ps aux" i have 18 of them [15:08] * gnomefreak thinks 18 is too many [15:13] here is the screenshot of the flush process http://img130.imageshack.us/i/psaux.png/ [15:34] * vish looks at firefox and weeps at the fonts :s [15:35] gnomefreak: what is the icon with the pond and ripple? [15:36] ? [15:36] what/where is icon? [15:36] gnomefreak: rather what app* .. in between the thunderbird and sunbird[or whatever] [15:37] * gnomefreak still confused [15:37] gnomefreak: what icon is to the left of the thunderbird icon? on the panel [15:38] on my panel is tbird-2 [15:38] sunbird-thunderbird-2- tb3 [15:41] gnomefreak: the one in the red box> http://imagebin.ca/view/mxrATKyu.html [15:41] thats from the image you posted above [15:41] vish: yep that is tb2 [15:42] i did? [15:42] huh... weird icon ;) [15:42] here is the screenshot of the flush process http://img130.imageshack.us/i/psaux.png/ [15:42] * gnomefreak dont recall wher ei got it but i had a few (10) or so Mozilla icons [15:42] ;) [15:43] vish: http://img130.imageshack.us/i/psaux.png/ [15:43] look at top terminal [15:43] * gnomefreak filed bug [15:46] * vish has one flush-8.0 but doesnt know what it is ;) [15:48] vish: its pdflush but that doesnt help me understnad it :) [15:48] gnomefreak: in the sys monitor , waiting channel it says > bdi_writeback_task [15:48] oh pdflush :D [15:49] * gnomefreak needs to find out what file to edit to prevent deamons from loading [15:49] * vish fades back into the woodwork [15:51] * gnomefreak goes for smoke while i try to figure this out [16:28] was firefox-3.6 ever fixed? if so what repo? [16:29] gnomefreak: yes, it's in lucid [16:29] as well as firefox-stable as per the channel note [16:29] micahg: so i can install firefox-3.6 or is there another package? [16:29] hopefully the dailies still work [16:30] micahg: im upgrading now but as of this morning it does not [16:30] gnomefreak: firefox-3.6 is now firefox [16:31] in dailies, lucid, and firefox-stable ppa [16:31] ok [16:31] thanks [16:32] the stable PPA is the mozilla team PPA it seems [16:33] gnomefreak: yes, it belongs to the team [16:33] yep [16:34] ok thanks be back in a few [16:38] sweet, the FF3.6 notify-osd stuff looks nice [16:41] ok micahg the package "firefox" is reserved to firefox-2.0 is this going to be changed so firefox == 3.* [16:41] for bug reports [16:42] s/to/for [16:46] gnomefreak: check out the flushes> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/bootcharts/daniel-lucid-20100125-oldkernel.png [16:53] vish: the flush amounts are expected? [16:55] that is also an old kernel we are on 2.6.32-11 [16:55] gnomefreak: i guess so.. that was from pitti's bootchart , they are cutting down boot time , so if it wasnt essential my guess is that they wouldnt be ther.. , he would know more.. [16:57] ok thanks [16:57] gnomefreak: heh , you scared me once into filing something similar ;p > Bug #409784 [16:57] Launchpad bug 409784 in udev "102 instances of udev running !" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409784 [16:58] i remember that bug, dont recall it being invalid [16:59] you filed it? [16:59] yup [16:59] were you using another name? [16:59] ah , yeah , earlier i used > mac_v updated nick recently [16:59] ah [17:02] * gnomefreak confused again. How is it ok to have 102 or ever 84 of the same process? [17:04] gnomefreak: iirc , keybuk mentioned that during boot since several processes are running/loaded rapidly , udev has several instances running , but over time the instances reduce , so if 1 have 102 during boot , it would be lesser over 6~12 hrs and keep reducing [17:05] s/1/i [17:05] oh [17:11] !info firefox karmic [17:11] firefox (source: firefox-3.5): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 71 kB, installed size 128 kB [17:24] asac_: any objection of approving Joe for MT membership? [17:28] gnomefreak: joe? [17:28] do i know him? [17:28] ;) [17:29] yeah hold ona sec. Joe Lesko he is working on SM2 [17:31] and looking to be a member as well as maintainer of SM2 but i need to really look at this package in its close to final state. micahg how is Sm2 going? Is there a chance to remove script and use debian/rules or is it close to being shipped? I havent looked at it since the most recent changes [17:31] gnomefreak: from what I've discussed with him, it's going to need a little work [17:31] I haven't actually looked at it yet [17:32] gnomefreak: BTW, you don't have to be a member to be a maintainer initially [17:32] I'm more interested in the package following the same as all our other ones and nobinonly should be used [17:32] micahg: i know [17:33] membership allows you to use MT branches and PPA as i recall [17:33] gnomefreak: he hacked up mozclient, so that's at least one thing that'll need to be fixed [17:33] asac_: https://edge.launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet [17:34] let him first contribute [17:34] we want new members to have actively contribute here before [17:34] micahg: im not going to have alot of time this week but i will grab the branch friday/saterday and look at it to see what i think [17:34] e.g. suggest merges [17:35] asac_: you dont want the merge for SM2 atm it needs some more work [17:35] right. so he needs to be here [17:35] work with us on that [17:35] and when its ready we merge it [17:35] after a few times, he can become mt ;) [17:35] micahg: mozclient hacks == target changes? [17:36] gnomefreak: tag changes [17:36] yeah that [17:36] he made his own version of DEBIAN_TAG [17:36] if i want to use firefox 3.6 and firebug 1.5 on ubuntu 9.10, is there a particular version/package of firefox i should use? [17:36] schmichael: see the channel title [17:36] micahg: i swear i actually googled before asking. that counts for something right? [17:36] IIRC 1.5 has a bunch of problems [17:37] thanks [17:37] gnomefreak: fixed with ff36 [17:37] with firefox-3.6 and up [17:37] micahg: did we get 1.5 in repos yet? [17:37] gnomefreak: i don't think so [17:37] we were on 1.4* [17:37] gnomefreak: jsut released [17:37] k [17:37] schmichael: use upstream firebug [17:38] asac_: wrt TB3, do you want me to try again tonight...it needs work and I think I added too much [17:38] micahg: always do, but thanks. installing ff3.6 now [17:38] micahg: the .links file needs to go [17:38] asac_: yeah, I did that already [17:39] and I shouldn't have imported the cdbs folder either [17:39] * micahg has learned that just becuase it's there doesn't make it necessary :) [17:39] gnomefreak: firebug 1.5 is in unstable in debian [17:40] micahg: works beautifully, no more segfaults with fb1.5. thanks! [17:40] micahg: k [17:40] gnomefreak: firebug 1.5 should be in lucid in about 2 weeks [17:41] k [17:41] was uploaded to unstable yesterday [17:42] asac_: so, should I try again tonight? === vish is now known as \vish [18:01] micahg: i fixed the .links locally [18:01] micahg: i will let you know [18:01] have to check if its good afterwards [18:02] * asac_ drinks a hot tea before going on the road again [18:07] asac_: what are we doing with the package "firefox" in LP for bugs? [18:07] we continue using it ;) [18:07] haha [18:07] back to roots [18:08] asac_: for firefox-2? or will it be used for >=3.5 [18:08] for 3.6 onwards [18:08] k [18:11] micahg: do you know if we added this fix to 3.6 [18:11] http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/454c8ec86b1e [18:12] that fix [18:12] or are we only fixing it in 3.7 [18:22] <[reed]> gnomefreak: that is 3.7 only [18:27] gnomefreak: I updated find the right package to say firefox for firefox 3.6+ [18:36] thanks [reed] and micahg [18:37] anyone else notice that (i think its the mozillateam PPA) is not working? [18:38] gnomefreak: can you define not working? [18:38] its fta's and mozillateam [18:38] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [18:38] sources and binaries [18:38] gnomefreak: that's not used AFAIK [18:39] micahg: what isnt used? [18:39] that PPA [18:39] that is the mozillateam PPA [18:39] gnomefreak: for what? [18:39] micahg: if not what is the stable firefox PPA [18:39] gnomefreak: see channel title [18:39] micahg: that is the one i had [18:39] gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable [18:39] micahg: i used the command and it said i had it already [18:39] gnomefreak: k? [18:40] did you add the mozilla team ppa as well? [18:40] nothing in there for karmic or lucid [18:40] micahg: already had it as i always had [18:41] gnomefreak: well, it's empty for karmic and lucid, so you might want to disable or you'll get errors [18:41] gpg: key CE49EC21: "Launchpad PPA for Mozilla Team" not changed [18:41] that is what i get using the command in topic [18:42] gnomefreak: so you already have it [18:42] but that's not the ppa you mentioned before [18:43] micahg: i had mozillateam PPA not the one in topic that is what it told me though [18:43] mozillateam/ppa != mozillateam/firefox-stable [18:43] micahg: that is not correct. they are not the same [18:43] oh yeah sorry [18:44] micahg: than it would be great to know why it said i had it and didnt add the firefox-stable one [18:44] gnomefreak: I think it's a bug [18:44] you already have the key so it might not add the repo [18:44] we should add the PPA link to topic instead if it is a bug [18:44] gnomefreak: apt-cache policy | grep firefox-stable [18:44] W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_mozillateam_firefox-stable_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_binary-i386_Packages) [18:45] gnomefreak: seems like you ran it twice [18:45] nomefreak@Development:~$ policy |grep firefox-stable release v=10.04,o=LP-PPA-mozillateam-firefox-stable,a=lucid,n=lucid,l=Firefox Stable Channel Packages,c=main [18:45] yep, you got it [18:45] micahg: its only in there one time [18:45] so you're good, what's the problem? [18:46] micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362786/ [18:46] micahg: I should not get any error or warning from PPA [18:47] you have that and you added the repo with sudo add-apt-repo? [18:47] no matter how hard i look there is only 1 in there for stable. Im going to guess its the name of the PPA apt doesnt understand [18:48] micahg: i did the first time but it gave me same thing so i than added it by hand still same thing [18:48] gnomefreak: you probably have an additional entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d [18:48] giv eme a minute [18:50] i might have fixed it but not sure yet [18:51] nope still saying dup [18:53] fixed [18:55] 3.6.1~hg20100122r33535+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd3 is not fixed, when is planned fix for dailies? [18:56] * gnomefreak would love to avoid pinning it if possible [18:56] * gnomefreak brb smoke [18:57] what is broken? [19:01] fta: firefox in daily builds [19:02] 3.6.1~hg20100122r33535+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd3 [19:02] which part? [19:02] fta: it wont launch [19:02] it was fixed (so i hear) in firefox-stable PPA [19:04] hm, broken here too, but it's apparmor [19:04] fta: what is broken, the 3.6 daily? in what way? [19:05] fta: should we add the apparmor fix [19:05] jdstrand: dailies wont launch [19:05] jdstrand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362794/ [19:05] asac: hi, i was saying have u managed to fix it [19:05] _you_ [19:05] gnomefreak: can you paste your dmesg? [19:06] jdstrand: full output http://paste.ubuntu.com/362796/ [19:06] its at the bottom [19:07] that is an old profile name [19:07] gnomefreak: can you paste the output of 'ls -l /etc/apparmor.d'? [19:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/362797/ is not the same as fta's [19:08] jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362799/ [19:09] 3.7 works great [19:09] mine is from yesterday, i'm upgrading right now [19:09] gnomefreak: can you give the output of 'dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 ; dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox [19:09] ' [19:10] nomefreak@Development:~$ 'dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 ; dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox' [19:10] bash: dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 ; dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox: No such file or directory [19:11] the problem is that there are two apparmor conffiles that are competing for the binary-- the first is what should be used, the second is what is being used [19:12] gnomefreak: do that command without the single quotes [19:13] irefox-3.6: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6 [19:13] firefox: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox [19:13] * gnomefreak checks [19:13] there should be an f in there [19:13] hmmm [19:13] ok [19:14] gnomefreak: for now, just do 'sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6' and 'sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox' [19:15] gnomefreak: that will unload the problematic profile, but only until next reboot [19:15] gnomefreak: is this on lucid I presume? [19:15] jdstrand: yes lucid [19:16] k [19:16] jdstrand: doesnt help [19:17] bash: sudo apparmor_parser -R etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox-3.6: No such file or directory same with "firefox" [19:17] gnomefreak: can you paste dmeg [19:17] gnomefreak: do that without the single quotes [19:17] (forget the dmesg) [19:18] ok now it starts [19:18] ok [19:19] jdstrand: you got what you need from me for this bug? [19:19] gnomefreak: yes [19:19] jdstrand: ok thanks i can go do housework :) [19:20] gnomefreak: thanks for the info [19:20] jdstrand: anytime [19:21] asac: we are going to want to do another upload of firefox on lucid [19:46] still broken after the upgrade [19:54] fta: is your brokeness due to apparmor? [19:54] yes [19:54] fta: can you paste your dmesg? [19:55] fta: and also 'sudo aa-status' [19:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/362825/ [19:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/362826/ [19:56] fta: please give the output of 'ls /etc/apparmor.d' [20:00] abstractions disable sbin.dhclient3 usr.bin.evince usr.bin.firefox-3.5 usr.bin.firefox-3.7 usr.sbin.mysqld [20:00] cache force-complain tunables usr.bin.firefox usr.bin.firefox-3.6 usr.sbin.cupsd usr.sbin.tcpdump [20:00] same bug i assume [20:01]