[02:06] <verbalshadow> how do you debug a x crash that causes a hardlock and you can't get a backtrace even with when you remote in
[02:07] <verbalshadow> if the crash the machine can't even accept new ssh connections
[02:07] <verbalshadow> s/if /and
[02:07] <RAOF> verbalshadow: You can try mounting the root filesystem with the “sync” flag; that'll probably slow disc i/o substantially, but should ensure that (almost) all of the log files get written out to disc before it dies.
[02:09] <RAOF> You can also try netconsole, to send dmesg out over the network to another machine.
[02:11] <verbalshadow> RAOF: thanks do i just add sync to the boot command ??
[02:12] <RAOF> I think you'd want to edit /etc/fstab
[02:17] <verbalshadow> ok, i wish i could figure out what the hell is wrong it is killing me
[11:45] <bryyce> tjaalton, are your xorg (1:7.5+1ubuntu1) changes in git?
[12:00] <tjaalton> bryyce: uh, seems not
[12:01] <tjaalton> bryyce: I can fix the changelog version when I push
[12:01] <tjaalton> also will add wacom back to -input-all
[12:02] <tjaalton> bryyce: do you want to release it too?
[12:48] <AlanBell> morning all
[12:49] <AlanBell> I am wondering if there is anything I can do to assist with progress on bug 428769
[12:49] <AlanBell> any further information I can add, or point me in the direction of the code responsible and I will have a poke about and see what I can find
[12:50] <AlanBell> the issue occurs with Lucid Alpha 2
[12:50] <AlanBell> compiz works perfectly on the same hardware in Jaunty
[15:51] <tseliot> superm1: it looks like more transitional packages will be needed: bug #510390
[15:51] <tseliot> you're gonna love it :-P
[16:48] <apw> bryyce, about?
[16:55] <superm1> tseliot, i'm not convinced
[16:56] <superm1> does mplayer build-dep on libvdpau?
[16:56] <superm1> (eg does it do it right..)
[16:56] <superm1> i can double check tonight if a fresh install has the same problem with mythtv
[16:56] <superm1> which does have a proper build-dep on libvdpau
[16:56] <tseliot> superm1: that would be welcome
[16:57] <tseliot> I guess it built against the old (nvidia?) libvdpau
[16:57] <superm1> tseliot, for now, i think just a C/R on that 185 package should be sufficient for upgraders though, no?
[16:58] <superm1> looking over https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+changelog i'd agree with that
[16:59] <bjsnider> that old mplayer has an ancient vdpau in it
[16:59] <bjsnider> it does not play well with the newer libvdpau
[16:59] <superm1> okay so lets get that fixed before we get any new transitional packages in place
[16:59] <bjsnider> i'm sure reinhard has it in mind to refresh it
[16:59] <superm1> bjsnider, do you by chance have a patch for it that you might share with siretart?
[17:00] <bjsnider> he had to fix that stupid ffmpeg problem first though
[17:00] <tseliot> superm1: this is exactly why I pinged you before doing any actual work
[17:00] <bjsnider> superm1, i just used reinhard's update command from the debian scripts
[17:01] <superm1> bjsnider, the ffmpeg problems should be fixed now i think
[17:01] <bjsnider> so my version is newer out of svn or whatever it is. may e git. i don't remember
[17:01] <bjsnider> yeah that's good, so everything should be refreshed, all of the encoding libs like theora, x264 etc. and vlc and mplayer
[17:02] <tseliot> superm1, bjsnider: can you add a comment in bug #510390
[17:02] <tseliot> so as to explain what's required
[17:02] <bjsnider> why does it say fix released?
[17:03] <tseliot> bjsnider: because there was a bug
[17:03] <tseliot> maybe we should open a different bug report
[17:03] <tseliot> the bug was the lack of libvdpau.so in /usr/lib/
[17:03] <tseliot> which is no longer the case
[17:04] <bjsnider> my ppa still has that newer mplayer from a few months ago. if someone wants to try it they're welcome.
[17:04] <bjsnider> but i don't use lucid
[17:04] <bjsnider> i could ask somebody in +1 i guess
[17:05] <bjsnider> tseliot, is the nvidia vdpau lib now int he same place as it always was?
[17:07] <tseliot> bjsnider: it's compliant with what Nvidia explained in bug #432172
[17:10] <bjsnider> wait a minute. how could fta have both nvidia-current and the 185 libvdpau package both installed? they contain the same files. so obviously the locations must have changed
[17:10] <bjsnider> mplayer needs to be refreshed so that it finds the new location and that old package has to be forced out
[17:10] <bjsnider> in my view
[17:12] <tseliot> right but the links will make it work
[17:12] <tseliot> no doubt on the fact that mplayer needs to be rebuilt against the new vdpau
[17:15] <Q-FUNK> on Lucid, since a few days, I seem to have a situation where pressing ALT+F* makes the system switch to a vcons, instead of calling whatever shortcut the desktop has defined.
[17:15] <Q-FUNK> has the kernel and/or X server suddenly changed from CTRL+ALT+F* to ALT+F* to change vcons?
[17:16] <tseliot> maybe gnome did?
[17:22] <Q-FUNK> tseliot: gnome still has its shortcuts as before.  as son as I return from whichever vcons I was sent to, the correct gnome action took place and is waiting for me to interact.
[17:23] <tseliot> oh
[17:23] <tseliot> tjaalton: ^^
[17:41] <superm1> bjsnider, okay well i filed a bug in debian to get mplayer patched to stop hacking it's own vdpau support in
[17:42] <superm1> are there any other packages yo uknow that do this?
[17:42] <superm1> ffmpeg should be fixed now
[17:43] <bjsnider> what i meant by the notion that there are problems witht hat build vis a vis vdpau is that there are playback bugs and things that were fixed in 2008
[17:43] <bjsnider> not that it couldn't find the vdpau libs or drivers
[17:45] <jcristau> mvo: i resent your xserver patch, hopefully keithp will take it now :)
[17:54] <mvo> jcristau: cool, thanks. fingers crossed :)
[17:55] <superm1> well the new stuff dlopen's from a new place too I thought, so that's a bit important as well
[17:56] <superm1> debian bug 566868 if you'd like to subscribe
[18:49] <AlanBell> where is the upstream for the intel graphics driver?
[18:50] <johanbr> intellinuxgraphics.org
[19:14] <AlanBell> johanbr: thanks
[19:15] <AlanBell> I think I found an upstream bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22996 that should be associated with bug 428769
[19:15] <AlanBell> how do I tell launchpad to link to that bug?
[19:18] <johanbr> click on "Also affects project"
[19:19] <AlanBell> johanbr: done, thanks.
[19:19] <johanbr> you're welcome