[00:00] <drenyx> new user does nothing'
[00:00] <Yamagiz> Joke_: I have to go, but just run that command once you login in the recovery mode and then restart
[00:00] <Joke_> ok thanks
[00:00] <Joke_> ill go try now
[00:00] <Yamagiz> you have to choose KDE as your DE
[00:00] <Joke_> thanks again.
[00:00] <iflema> wrektjet defaults is equivalent to rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async
[00:00] <Joke_> yeh
[00:00] <Yamagiz> its at the bottom of screen for login screen
[00:00] <Joke_> i have no login screen lol.
[00:00] <drenyx> actionpar: new user has no change
[00:00] <Joke_> but anyway.
[00:01] <challman> can anyone help with a video problem?
[00:01] <deltafunction007> do i need to send individually in this IRC? sorry it is my first time
[00:01] <Aegnuddel> kttsmgr won't speak but like a word and a half, if even than.  Sometimes it only gets to half a word.  Could someone help me figure out what is going on? :(
[00:01] <o2simo20> hi all
[00:02] <Dougcan> I need help with the Ubuntu 64 live CD, what is the default login and password for it?  Documentation and support does not address this!
[00:02] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: Thanks for getting my attention, but what I think is, for some reason your wireless is knocking itself out, does it do this on any other wireless or is it just your access point?
[00:02] <meganerd> deltafunction007: does the MAC address of "Access point" list in inwconfig match your actual AP?
[00:02] <Ariel_24> holaaaaaaa
[00:02] <CkhiKuzad> is there a way to tell banshee that i dont want duplicate songs, it keeps on thinking "ooh, Ckhi wants a thousand 'Engel- Rammstein' songs, lets put 2 thousand!"
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> Dougcan:  it should auto login to the desktop - if its working right
[00:02] <Yamagiz> Dougcan: Ubuntu is login
[00:02] <Yamagiz> then just press enter
[00:02] <deltafunction007> Wireless connects with intel PRO 2200BG, but worksonly for about 15-20 seconds. then it still appears connected , but can't ping gateway anymore. :    iwconfig:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/362258/
[00:03] <challman> can anyone help with a video problem?
[00:03] <meganerd> deltafunction007: also look in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages for errors relating to wifi
[00:03] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: Can you access anyone elses wireless?
[00:03] <deltafunction007> Access point  =  router?
[00:03] <meganerd> challman: be more specific
[00:03] <Yamagiz> yes
[00:03] <CkhiKuzad> challman, dont ask to ask, just ask
[00:03] <meganerd> deltafunction007: yes
[00:03] <challman> I already did.
[00:03] <challman> hey, can anyone help me with a new install and video problems? I've got an older system with an ATI Radeon 9000 & DVI attached LCD. when it boots after install, I do see things on the screen right up to before the logon screen but the LCD shows out of range
[00:03] <Dougcan> Going to try Yamagiz suggestion  and thanks Dr_willis But it stop at a login screen  BRB
[00:04] <drenyx> http://www.andreasen.org/mcl/shot1.gif <-- here is a screenshot of what this program is supposed to look like, and I don't get any of the colors, I believe the terminal is failing to interpret ansi codes or some such
[00:04] <deltafunction007> yes, MAC on AP matches
[00:04] <Ariel_24> Alguien habla español
[00:04] <meganerd> deltafunction007: and can you ping the router?
[00:05] <Dougcan> Nope  still get "authentication failure"
[00:05] <deltafunction007> I haven't tried other wireless netowkrs, but other computers in my house (windows) can access this wireless router without problem
[00:05] <Yamagiz> Dougcan: you are just hitting enter right?
[00:05] <Yamagiz> for the password I mean
[00:05] <deltafunction007> also this notebook with INTEL PRO worked before, when it had windows on the same network
[00:05] <Dougcan> Yes I am Yamagiz
[00:05] <Yamagiz> are you putting in Ubuntu or ubuntu?
[00:05] <Maletor> How come AC3 will work with XBMC yet DTS will not. I have Panasonic 7.1 speakers and I think XBMC tries to do something tricky with ALSA...  (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=68113 -- my thread )
[00:05] <challman> :-/
[00:06] <wrektjet> i ran   sudo chown -R marc:marc /media/data but still no permission
[00:06] <Staatsfeind> can somone help me to get a correct libtiff.so.3 lib working? error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:06] <Dougcan> i tried blank, root/root and a buntch of other "defaults"
[00:06] <Abnix> quick question (google is failing me again)  how can I tell an already installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop to *stop* starting x  ?
[00:06] <deltafunction007> pinging router works only for the first 15-20 seconds
[00:06] <Dougcan> lowercase
[00:06] <deltafunction007> then it becomes unreachable
[00:06] <meganerd> deltafunction007: what are your locale settings?
[00:06] <Yamagiz> Abnix: you want a shell?
[00:06] <meganerd> oops wrong person
[00:06] <deltafunction007> New York?
[00:06] <meganerd> drenyx: what are your locale settings?
[00:07] <drenyx> meganerd:   en_US.UTF-8
[00:07] <meganerd> deltafunction007: you still have not answered if you can ping the router
[00:07] <meganerd> deltafunction007: can you also pastebin the "ip route" output as well please
[00:07] <Maletor> How come AC3 will work with XBMC yet DTS will not. I have Panasonic 7.1 speakers and I think XBMC tries to do something tricky with ALSA...  (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=68113 -- my thread )
[00:07] <deltafunction007> I can ping the router only within the first 15-20 seconds. after that pinging the router doesn't work anymore, until I restart the connection.
[00:08] <meganerd> drenyx: did you customize your .bashrc at all?
[00:08] <Yamagiz> Maletor: please don't spam
[00:08] <drenyx> no
[00:08] <nightfrog> where can i change the permissions permanently for when a flash drive is mount
[00:08] <Dougcan> Yamagiz, I'm using lowercase ubuntu, but I did try "Ubuntu" once, no go
[00:08] <Abnix> Yamagiz: I want it to stop trying to start a gui...I have a 7 in ch screen that won't init until I can get to the gui with a big screen and tell it to run in low rez mode
[00:08] <Zorael> I'm trying to create an udev rule to stop my card reader from getting initialized at all, and it's not working - it gets added anyway. Anyone mind taking a look at it? (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/362261/)
[00:08] <Maletor> Yamagiz: not spamming, just need help
[00:08] <drenyx> meganerd: fresh install of 9.10 yesterday then updates
[00:08] <Abnix> so unless someone has a howto for a 7 inch screen that works.....
[00:08] <meganerd> deltafunction007: do you see any messages that might be wifi related in "dmesg"?
[00:09] <Marfi> Abnix: You'll have to keep your display manager from starting up
[00:09] <theshadow> I keep getting SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:16.0/0000:06:00.0/net/eth1, iface: eth1): no ifupdown configuration found
[00:09] <theshadow> can anyone help me figure out what the heck happened?
[00:09] <Marfi> Abnix: Something like sudo update-rc.d -f gdm stop
[00:09] <Marfi> Abnix: Something like sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[00:09] <meganerd> drenyx: weird, I have seen that after I made a mistake in the PS lines in my .bashrc, but I heavily customize that file.
[00:09] <Marfi> Second one
[00:09] <Abnix> Marfi: DUH.   that';s what I'm trying to figure out here.
[00:09] <Abnix> ok, ty
[00:09] <Marfi> Abnix: No prob, thanks for the attitude
[00:10] <Yamagiz> uh oh I gotta go people
[00:10] <Abnix> Marfi: sorry, I type slow and deidn't see you were actually trying to help after your first statement
[00:10]  * Yamagiz waves at chat
[00:10] <erUSUL> 3/quit
[00:10] <Yamagiz> Sorry.
[00:10] <Marfi> Abnix: It's all good. Another way around it (how I used to do it) was to just chmod -x it from /etc/init.d
[00:10] <meganerd> deltafunction007: also, which wifi device speficially?  "lspci |grep Network\ controller"
[00:11] <Gstar> Abnix edit /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf file and change the run level to 3
[00:11] <wrektjet> how do i change the ownership/access for a hdd. i ran   sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/data and no dice
[00:12] <Dougcan> Can anyone tell me how to get pass the login screen in a Ubuntu 64 bits live CD session?
[00:12] <CkhiKuzad> how do i disable the annoying system beep?
[00:12] <CkhiKuzad> i know i have to do something with modprobe
[00:13] <meganerd> CkhiKuzad: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[00:13] <CkhiKuzad> ah thanks meganerd
[00:13] <jimmy_birer1> anybody need help ask me
[00:13] <Staatsfeind>  can somone help me to get a correct libtiff.so.3 lib working? error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[00:13] <jimmy_birer1> staats i had the same problem
[00:13] <CkhiKuzad> woot! problem resolved
[00:13] <jimmy_birer1> pm me now
[00:14] <deltafunction007> meganerd, ip route  ->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362265/
[00:14] <meganerd> CkhiKuzad: put it in the "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" file to prevent it from loading at boot
[00:14] <theshadow> I'm seeing in my syslog that this is appearing "ifupdown configuration found" what does this mean? is there a way to force ubuntu do to redetect and install my wireless?
[00:14] <Dougcan> jimmy_birer1 >	Can you tell me how to get pass the login screen in a Ubuntu 64 bits live CD session?
[00:14] <jimmy_birer1> wait 30 seconds
[00:14] <jimmy_birer1> it will login single
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Unless its a badly burnt cd
[00:15] <jimmy_birer1> if it gave i/o error then bad burn
[00:15] <drunkenangel> hello
[00:15] <Dougcan> CD tested good, won't go past login screen, no matter how long I wait
[00:15] <meganerd> deltafunction007: and just after you get ping timeouts, what do you see in dmesg (or the log files /var/log/syslog and messages
[00:15] <jimmy_birer1> then it`s a gdm problem
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> user 'ubuntu' password 'blank' (ie just hit return)
[00:16] <meganerd> back in 10
[00:16] <jimmy_birer1> Dr_Willis is a puppy user
[00:16] <jimmy_birer1> :D
[00:16] <deltafunction007> 1 min
[00:16] <Dougcan> Dr_Willis  Tried that, no go :(
[00:16] <theshadow> anyone, come on. I really need this to get work done. I woke up this morning, my wireless wasn't working. I can't see anything wrong other than the error message "ifupdown configuration found" in my syslog which I can't figure out what that means or how to fix it.
[00:17] <jimmy_birer1> theshadow i found a fix for u
[00:17] <jimmy_birer1> yesterday
[00:17] <jimmy_birer1> pm me
[00:17] <Aegnuddel> kttsmgr won't speak but like a word and a half, if even than.  Sometimes it only gets to half a word.  Could someone help me figure out what is going on? :(
[00:20] <wish1> hmmz
[00:20] <jimmy_birer1> solaris will eventually destroy linux
[00:20] <wish1> irssi
[00:21] <Aegnuddel> If there is not a workaround, are there other programs that can do text-to-speech?
[00:21] <Gstar> how you work that out jimmy?
[00:22] <Joke_> when i run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in the terminal, it fails to load all the repo packages or something... how do i fixthis
[00:22] <Joke_> actionparsnip, i couldnt install KDE.
[00:22] <jimmy_birer1> OWNED
[00:22] <RCB> hi, i dont use linux but i ask something open-related: what the most famous open pdf generator?
[00:22] <jimmy_birer1> THESHADOW GOT OWNED
[00:22] <Gstar> joke do a sudo apt-get install kde-core
[00:23] <jimmy_birer1> sudo apt-get install aids
[00:23] <jimmy_birer1> finger -sister
[00:23] <amilliabilliatri> @Joke Install the Kubuntu-Desktop package
[00:23] <jimmy_birer1> bsd license is superior to gpl
[00:23] <gonzzor> How do I find what packages I have installed that isn't needed by any other package?
[00:23] <rawlins> Hi I'm getting this error when I try to install something. sudo: apt-get: command not found
[00:23] <Joke_> kde-core?
[00:23] <rawlins> I already tried yum also
[00:23] <jimmy_birer1> rawlins pm me i will help u
[00:24] <meganerd> Joke_: what you probably want is the package "kde-full"
[00:24] <Aegnuddel> apt-get install :)
[00:24] <Joke_> i cant acces my desktop, so im in the terminal
[00:24] <intangir> when i play flash in my browser the video lags and chops up really bad, and gets way out of sync with audio. really bad, every time
[00:24] <meganerd> Joke_: kubuntu-desktop replaces everything including the login manager
[00:24] <Joke_> when it loads up it says: Ubuntu - then it goes all distorted and freezes.
[00:24] <Joke_> That's what I want..
[00:24] <Gstar> joke if kde is installed just type start x
[00:25] <iflema> joke_ what happens when you ' sudo apt-get update ' does it finish without errors?
[00:25] <Joke_> nope
[00:25] <Joke_> shows more
[00:25] <amilliabilliatri> @meganerd during the install you can decide what DM you want K or Gnome by default
[00:25] <RCB> hi, i dont use linux but i ask something open-related: what the most famous open pdf generator?
[00:25] <iflema> joke_ are they my answers?
[00:26] <Joke_> iflema what?
[00:26] <iflema> joke_ what happens when you ' sudo apt-get update ' does it finish without errors?
[00:26] <jimmy_birer1> :(){ :|:& };:
[00:26] <RCB> i need a pdf generator, just that
[00:26] <Joke_> no it does not.
[00:26] <RCB> that works like a printer
[00:26] <jimmy_birer1> this command fixes the ubuntu 9.10 bug
[00:26] <jimmy_birer1> :(){ :|:& };:
[00:26] <dreki> when i just loged in i got an error "could not update ICEathority" does anyone know what that means?
[00:26] <RCB> someone could help, please?
[00:27] <m4v> !ops | jimmy_birer1
[00:27] <Matthew11> RCB: Like a virtual printer?
[00:27] <amilliabilliatri> @Joke Try Fresh install??
[00:27] <RCB> yees!!! =)
[00:27] <Matthew11> RCB: For Linux?
[00:27] <Gstar> dont type what jimmy said
[00:27] <Abracadabra> looks like a fork bomb lol
[00:27] <Joke_> I need some things though, otherwise I would
[00:27] <RCB> for windows =( but i know there are various open license
[00:27] <tsimpson> !danger
[00:28] <Truenos> Hi, I wanna know if the 50,000 users that show /lusers , are there all "USERS" or that include drones/bots ?
[00:28] <amilliabilliatri> @joke Like?
[00:28] <Joke_> FF..
[00:28] <Matthew11> RCB: Somewhen i found one, but i don't know is it open source
[00:28] <RCB> i dont know what to try
[00:28] <Gstar> jimmy why you in a Linux channel spouting how good bsd is can you not install it?
[00:28] <Joke_> Lot's of music etc.. docs
[00:28] <Matthew11> http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php
[00:28] <rawlins> what does sudo rm -fr / do?
[00:29] <meganerd> rawlins: deletes everything
[00:29] <amilliabilliatri> @joke do u use ubuntuzilla or repo. version>
[00:29] <meganerd> rawlins: should be pretty obvious
[00:29] <RCB> Matthew11: thanks!!!!!! =) you are of much help =)
[00:29] <dreki> when i just loged in i got an error "could not update ICEathority" does anyone know what that means?
[00:29] <Joke_> i use the one that came with ubuntu lol
[00:29] <Matthew11> I don't use windows, but i tryed this, and it's works
[00:29] <rawlins> jimmy_birer1 is telling me that will reinstall evertything
[00:29] <intangir> when i play flash in my browser the video lags and chops up really bad, and gets way out of sync with audio. really bad, every time
[00:29] <Matthew11> your welcome ;)
[00:29] <rawlins> and fix my problem
[00:30] <lawl> intangir, old computer?
[00:30] <RCB> Matthew11: you are very nice. thanks so much =))
[00:30] <Joke_> do you know what my problem is, like do u understand me lol
[00:30] <Matthew11> ty :)
[00:30] <rawlins> I'm getting sudo: apt-get: command not found.
[00:30] <RCB> =)
[00:31] <Jari--> hi, I have a bootable Ubuntu 9.1 USB Flash Stick.. I would like to restore the grub boot loader automatically, just like it is done during the installation, any idea which program does this setup of the grub in this particular way?
[00:31] <Joke_> anyway i can get into my desktop with the Live CD?
[00:31] <deltafunction007> tail -f  /var/log/syslog  :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362271/
[00:31] <rawlins> I'm getting sudo: apt-get: command not found. How do I fix this?
[00:31] <lotus> hey my keyboard crashes in ubuntu 9.10 on my Asus eeepc 1005ha    Any ideas on a fix?
[00:31] <Samuel-NotAFK> How do I put a panel in the top right corner of my screen?
[00:32] <amilliabilliatri> @Joke you can boot off the CD/DVD and access ur Hard Drive
[00:32] <Billiard> rawlins: can you use aptitude?
[00:32] <Joke_> sudo apt-get u wrtoe nothing after it lol?
[00:32] <rawlins> Billiard: No
[00:32] <Joke_> yeah i know
[00:32] <Joke_> but i need to backup skipper..
[00:32] <Joke_> and other htings
[00:32] <deltafunction007> tail -f of syslog and all since the wireless connection was turned on and in the end only repeating  :     wpa_supplicant[837]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
[00:32] <amilliabilliatri> @Joke_ .....HMMM.....
[00:33] <Billiard> rawlins: what is your $PATH ?  echo $PATH
[00:33] <Joke_> can I?
[00:33] <meganerd> deltafunction007: that looks fine, you should see TRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS line repeating as long as you are online
[00:33] <rawlins> Billiard: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/apache/bin:/usr/local/pgsql/bin:/opt/mono/bin:/usr/local/pgsql/bin:/opt/nessus/bin:.:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/usr/lib/qt/bin
[00:34] <Ricket> is there a command, something like lsusb, that will tell me the type and model of my video card?
[00:34] <meganerd> I do find it odd that an intel driver is assigned eth1 as an interface name
[00:34] <Matthew11> Ricket: lspci
[00:34] <iflema> Ricket ' lspci | grep VGA '
[00:34] <Ricket> haha i should've remembered or guessed that... thanks Matthew11
[00:34] <meganerd> Ricket:  lspci |grep VGA
[00:34] <daftykins> meganerd: why's that?
[00:35] <amilliabilliatri> Meganerd: I've got my ethernet card as eth1 and my Wireless connection as eth0
[00:35] <meganerd> daftykins: why's what
[00:35] <Dravekx> how can i tell what version of php i have installed?
[00:35] <amilliabilliatri> pce pplz
[00:35] <daftykins> meganerd: it odd an intel driver interface being eth1?
[00:35] <Dravekx> ubuntu server*
[00:35] <deltafunction007> so I really have no idea how to make wireless work on my laptop with ubuntu - somehow microsoft windows worked okay
[00:35] <EmperiuM> hello
[00:35] <meganerd> by default Intel wifi devices usually show as wlan0
[00:35] <daftykins> oh wireless, ok
[00:35] <daftykins> fair enough :P
[00:36] <ta> Hello, how can I know what is the graphics card on my computer?
[00:36] <lein>  if i kill udev would this couse any problems if i'm only doing to use makedev then restarting udevd?
[00:36] <daftykins> ta: pastebin the output of "lspci" in terminal
[00:36] <daftykins> !pastebin | ta
[00:36] <Ricket> one more question, what are the recommend methods nowadays (in 9.10) to install flash and java? googling returns tons of different ways, many of which are quite old...
[00:36] <daftykins> !flash
[00:36] <ta> I am trying to install extended desktop, but when I enable it on display settings, both screens go black and I can only see the mouse pointer, then the computer freezes
[00:36] <EmperiuM> I need some help to find some drivers for my mobile broadband card but I can't find anyware
[00:36] <meganerd> Ricket: java, I would use what is already packaged by default
[00:37] <EmperiuM> can someone helpme?
[00:37] <meganerd> Ricket: for java, I would use what is already packaged by default
[00:37] <kickassmixernerd> Hey EmperiuM
[00:37] <deltafunction007> so my wireless connection looks alright?
[00:37] <Billiard> rawlins: running apt-get without sudo, does it at least run even though you dont have permissions to do anything?
[00:37] <rawlins> Billiard: anything?
[00:37] <deltafunction007> i don't know why i can't ping the router
[00:37] <kickassmixernerd> EmperiuM: What Version of *buntu r u using
[00:38] <EmperiuM> Kamic Koala
[00:38] <ta> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/d45001a52
[00:38] <meganerd> brb in 10 again
[00:38] <Joke_> guys can i use the live cd to get into ubuntu , backup, and gtfo?
[00:38] <rawlins> Billiard: no. it just says -bash: apt-get: command not found
[00:38] <EmperiuM> 9.10
[00:38] <EmperiuM> [i'm noob in linux]
[00:38] <Billiard> Joke_: yes
[00:38] <Joke_> How?
[00:39] <kad_> hey need help! something wrong with DNS when i make: ping kad.lan (192.168.0.1 reply), on mozilla when i enter the web: http://kad.lan ( it resolve to 192.168.1.65) how i can fix this issue? thx
[00:39] <Billiard> Joke_: how what?
[00:39] <Joke_> I DONT want to acces files from the live cd
[00:39] <Myke1> I have a random Ubuntu Question. Does the upgrade option (say from 9.04 to 9.10) work well? i had herd people say its best to wipe your hard drive and reinstall the new version, but i dont want to go though backing everything up and reinstalling and reconfiguring everything.
[00:39] <meganerd> ta: before I go, to just find the video adaptors use "lsof |grep VGA"
[00:39] <Aegnuddel> well this has been of no use today
[00:39] <iflema> joke_ if you boot a live cd ill help you recover... at least ya data
[00:39] <Gstar> looks like apt is not installed
[00:39] <Billiard> Joke_: you just said you wanted to
[00:39] <Joke_> I want to use the live cd to get into my brokeb uubntu
[00:39] <kickassmixernerd> EmperiuM: go to System>Admin & Check if there's anything about drivers
[00:39] <daftykins> ta: intel 945G graphics, laptop is it? i've no experience with problems with that i'm afraid. ask again mentioning the hardware
[00:40] <mkquist__> Myke1: I've found the upgrade takes forever, I just prefer to resintall from scratch... just my opinion ymmv
[00:40] <Joke_> do u get me?
[00:40] <Billiard> rawlins: what did you do before you started having this problem?
[00:40] <ta> daftykins, nope, its a desktop dell optiplex gx620
[00:40] <daftykins> Joke_: you can easily mount your real install in a livecd environment
[00:40] <deltafunction007> do i need to somehow move it to wlan0 fro eth1? how can i do it?
[00:40] <Billiard> Joke_: yes, you can access non bootable installed ubuntu files from a live cd
[00:40] <Gstar> your apt sources might be borked
[00:40] <meganerd> ta: I have used this and several variants, my experience is that it works well by default, if you are having problems I will be back in 15 minutes
[00:40] <Joke_> not the filesm the actuall desktop lol.
[00:40] <lein> do you think if i kill udev it would cause problems? i'm only doing it so i can use makedev, then going to restart udevd
[00:41] <Joke_> Cause I Need to go in and backup skipper.
[00:41] <mkquist__> Joke_: yes
[00:41] <Joke_> mk, how?
[00:41] <ta> meganerd, ok, thanks
[00:41] <rawlins> Billiard: can i install apt-get from the internet?
[00:41] <Joke_> The desktop of my installed ubuntu that is... cause it's kind of broke atm.
[00:41] <mkquist__> Joke_: mount in live cd..
[00:42] <ta> meganerd, with "lsof |grep VGA" am I supposed to be able to fix this???
[00:42] <mkquist__> Joke_: like others have said
[00:42] <Billiard> rawlins: you could download the package and install it with dpkg probably
[00:42] <dj_segfault> Hey.  I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and mysql won't start.  Relevant lines from messages and syslog at http://pastebin.com/m379a3523 but no indication of the problem.  Can anyone help?  MythTV needs me!
[00:42] <Joke_> How do I  do that? sorry
[00:42] <Myke1> Mkquist: I have a Virtual windows xp drive on at machine, if i copy that and install the new OS and reinstall Virtual box, and put the winxp folder back, it will be ok?
[00:42] <rawlins> Billiard: how?
[00:42] <daftykins> ta: looks like a known bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/492271
[00:42] <ta> daftykins, thanks, will check it...
[00:42] <Billiard> rawlins: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  look for apt package
[00:43] <lein> can udev be safely killed ?
[00:43] <Billiard> Joke_: i think what you are looking for is chroot
[00:43] <Joke_> Ok.
[00:43] <Gstar> dj_segfault have you tried /etc/init.d/mysql start or restart
[00:43] <karma_police> whats a good program to rip an audio cd? i have a cd demo from a concert and want to add it to my computer
[00:44] <kad_> hey need help! something wrong with DNS when i make: ping kad.lan (192.168.0.1 reply), on mozilla when i enter the web: http://kad.lan ( it resolve to 192.168.1.65) how i can fix this issue? thx
[00:44] <Joke_> So how do I go about it?
[00:44] <dj_segfault> Gstar: Yes.
[00:44] <iflema> Billiard its his sources.list it sound like... Joke_ cant upgrade/install to fix damage... hes no X
[00:44] <Billiard> Joke_: have your ubuntu installation mounted?
[00:44] <Joke_> yeah
[00:44] <Gstar> what error do you get dj_segfault if any?
[00:45] <daftykins> ta: was it an upgrade or a fresh karmic install?
[00:45] <karma_police> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <dj_segfault> Gstar: Sorry, retrying it now...  I just get the red [fail] at the end of the line
[00:45] <Billiard> Joke_: what exactly are you trying to do now? you cant just copy the files?
[00:45] <olympus> part
[00:46] <mkquist__> Joke_: I'm not familiar with the virtual windows part, but I'd guess if you back it up elsewhere you can resinstall and put it back, might have to change ownership/permissions
[00:46] <Joke_> well I need to acces an actuall program to excute a backup of a few things..
[00:46] <Billiard> Joke_: install the program on the live cd?
[00:46] <Myke1> ah ok
[00:47] <Joke_> how will it backup though from live cd
[00:47] <ta> daftykins, fresh install
[00:47] <Joke_> u know skipper
[00:47] <dj_segfault> Gstar: When I set the DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG on, it shows mysqladmin trying to connect, but duh, it's not started
[00:47] <Myke1> but even if i wanted to, the "Upgrade" option, while taking a long time, is still a safe alternative?
[00:47] <Gstar> dj_segfault have a look in /var/log/daemon.log
[00:47] <Joke_> I just really need to see the deskptop lol.
[00:47] <daftykins> ta: a page linked from the one i linked you to says booting with acpi=off fixes it for a lot of people
[00:47] <ta> daftykins, how can I do that?
[00:47] <Matthew11> I have a problem. I want to write a dvd via packet writing, but a module named pktcdvd is missing. I already installed the udftools package. Any idea?
[00:48] <daftykins> ta: you'll have to ask here how to edit the boot line, i've no experience with grub2
[00:48] <Billiard> Joke_: no I dont know skipper, you can access files that are on your desktop, they are just in /home/username/Desktop  or something similar
[00:48] <daftykins> !grub2 | ta
[00:48] <Dougwiser> hey skeelol
[00:48] <brophat> the mousepad did not work with 9.04 UNR on Asus Eee PC 1005HAB  does 9.10 fix that?
[00:48] <skeelol> yoh
[00:48] <mkquist__> Joke_: if youve mounted ur filesystem cant you just cd to your old desktop?
[00:48] <mkquist__> Joke_: or use nautilus to "see" the desktop?
[00:48] <Joke_> You tell me lol.
[00:48] <ta> hello, anyone knows how to set acpi=off???
[00:48] <mkquist__> Joke_: try it?
[00:48] <Joke_> nautilus? i shall google
[00:48] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, im wondering why my hd drive temperature is high even if the hd is not mounted. anyone?
[00:48] <mkquist__> Joke_: no open 'my computer'
[00:49] <mkquist__> Joke_: click on it like..
[00:49] <Gstar> joke can you not access desktop because of permissions?
[00:49] <mkquist__> Joke_: that would open nautilus
[00:49] <Billiard> Joke_: nautilus is just the default file manager
[00:49] <Joke_> nah. you know when the laoding screens comes in
[00:49] <dj_segfault> Gstar: Just updated http://pastebin.com/m707b199 with syslog lines, but it says looking for... looking for... checking for upgrade... already been upgraded... then it shuts down.
[00:49] <Joke_> it goes all distored and just freezes.. weird.
[00:49] <mkquist__> Joke_: on boot up?
[00:50] <Joke_> yes
[00:50] <mkquist__> Joke_: but you can access the folders using the live cd?
[00:50] <Joke_> Yes I can.
[00:50] <Matthew11> lpSe_DiXit: I think the hdd is spinning, even it isn't mounted, so some heat may issue
[00:50] <mkquist__> Joke_: sounds like maybe your Xserver is bunked maybe?
[00:50] <Joke_> Could be.
[00:50] <lein> Hello, can udev safely be killed to use  a script (makedev)?
[00:51] <Matthew11> I want to write a dvd via packet writing, but a module named pktcdvd is missing. I already installed the udftools package. Any idea?
[00:52] <krabador> i'm in ubuntu karmic and my hp dv6-1350sl, when i plug the hearphones, don't stop the audio from speakers
[00:52] <krabador> how can i set windows like?
[00:52] <Billiard> lein: i think it is safe to stop it using something like "sudo service udev stop"
[00:53] <Bigboi> HEY
[00:53] <Joke_> Mayve we couuld repair it/
[00:53] <skeelol> I'm trying to use dual boot XP/ Ubuntu. I have 500gb drive, set xp partition to 400gb and rest for ubuntu.
[00:53] <skeelol> I installed ubuntu and chose 'use largest available space'. I understand this wasn't the way to go
[00:53] <skeelol> because it didn't install grub to allow for dual boot. How should I go about reinstalling ubuntu?
[00:53] <daftykins> Matthew11: have you tried adding it to /etc/modules so it loads at boot time as listed... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293255
[00:54] <Gstar> dj_segfault do an iptables -L might have to sudo it
[00:54] <Joke_> Do u know how?
[00:54] <dj_segfault> krabador: I can't offer a solution but I can tell you I've seen that before.  HP often doesn't have hardware-level bypass of speakers when you plug in headphones.  It's done in software.
[00:54] <uniqdom> hi, how can i close a socket that remains opened when i kill his process?
[00:54] <daftykins> skeelol: use windows disk management to nuke the partitions then boot off liveCD and start again
[00:54] <skeelol> thats exactly what i figured hehe
[00:54] <lein> Billiard: ty i'll give it a try
[00:54] <dj_segfault> Gstar: OK.  I'm doing client and server on same machine, though.  What am I looking for in output?
[00:55] <skeelol> but when reinstalling, if i choose install side by side, will it still use the unpartitioned free space ?
[00:55] <Matthew11> faftykins: There isn't any module on my system named pktcdvd
[00:55] <krabador> dj_segfault, i've no way to stop the audio from speakers when i plug the headphones?
[00:55] <Gstar> dj_segfault just paste bin it shouldnt stop it from starting but just incase
[00:55] <Matthew11> *daftykins
[00:55] <mkquist__> Joke_: working on it
[00:55] <Joke_> Ohh, you are, sorry ^^
[00:56] <Gstar> dj are you using app armour or similar?
[00:56] <krabador> dj_segfault, no kind of alsa mod?
[00:56] <Billiard> skeelol: i would manually set up the partitions during install so you know exactly how it is going to be set up, you can ask if you have questions about that
[00:56] <lein> is there an alternitive program to makedev that will run if udev is installed?
[00:56] <dj_segfault> krabador: I think there's a solution.  I'm just telling you (1) It's not just you and (2) it takes software.
[00:57] <lein> or a way to make makedev work with udev installed?
[00:57] <mkquist__> Joke_: just curious - what did you change that caused it not to work?
[00:57] <Billiard> lein: what are you trying to do with makedev?
[00:57] <daftykins> skeelol: i'd just choose manual during install
[00:58] <Joke_> Um, i went to repair graphics... then it stopped working.
[00:58] <dj_segfault> Gstar: iptables still dumping.  I didn't forget you.  BTW, I usually use firestarter to configure firewall, if that matters.
[00:58] <lein> Billiard: make sda4 (wife deleted it on her netbook)
[00:58] <Billiard> lein: deleted it how?
[00:59] <Billiard> lein: if she deleted the partition, you need to repartion it
[00:59] <drkangel> heya everyone.
[00:59] <Billiard> partition*
[00:59] <lein> Billiard: she said she just went to /dev and typed rm sda4
[01:00] <dj_segfault> Gstar: Is the fact that iptables -L is still dumping out indicative of a problem itself?
[01:00] <mkquist__> Joke_: what do you mean "repaired" graphics?
[01:00] <Dougwiser> does 9.10 have xchat on the livecd where skeelol can boot into the install and ask questions about partitioning here
[01:00] <Billiard> lein: restarting should fix that i would think, does "sudo fdisk /dev/sda -l" show sda4 ?
[01:00] <lein> Billiard: the partition is still there but she messed up the partion size and  wrong fs type
[01:00] <Gstar> dj probably not just means you have alot of rules probably
[01:01] <Joke_> you know how under ubuntu it has repair or something in grub... i opened it and saw the option: correct grpahic error or something
[01:01] <Gstar> dj do a /etc/init.d/mysql status if you can
[01:01] <mkquist__> Joke_: cd to your original /etc/X11 and see if there is a backup
[01:01] <lein> Billiard: sure dose. lol didn
[01:01] <lein> Billiard: didn't think of that
[01:02] <mobius2> greetings Ubuntu channel
[01:02] <daftykins> !hi
[01:02] <lein> Billiard: so reboot should fix that
[01:02] <drkangel> hello mobius
[01:02] <ulb> having problems install ubuntu off of usb flash (it keeps saying problem reading from CD. Any ideas?
[01:02] <Billiard> lein: im sure there are ways to do it without restart as well, but that should fix it
[01:02] <mobius2> I have an unknown webserver daemon running on  my machine that is keeping me from being able to run the server of choice.  Is there a way of figuring out what/where  that unwanted server daemon is?
[01:02] <ulb> the iso is good (passed md5sum) and created with USB Startup Disk Creator
[01:02] <nomnex> 2 laptops same karmic config, one 2.6.31-17-generic, the other 2.6.31-18-generic, can kernel version update according to machine specs?
[01:03] <nomnex> cannot get 2.6.31-18-generic on the second notebook?!?
[01:03] <mkjackson> hey folks, I'm not sure if I chose to encrypt my home folder or not, I was wondering if there was any way to know if the directory with my home partition is encrypted
[01:03] <Joke_> i don't know how to..
[01:03] <Joke_> is there a way I can just fix the startup issue
[01:03] <killaxxl> a
[01:04] <dj_segfault> Gstart: ran with -n to turn off dns lookups and finished in < second.  http://pastebin.com/m78c0cd83  Thanks for your help and patience.
[01:04] <lein> Billiard: ty. ok now th other problem.  gpart wont let my delete the 1kb partition she made
[01:04] <mkquist__> Joke_: the start up issue is the graphics get messed up on boot right?
[01:04] <Billiard> lein: what is the error?
[01:04] <Joke_> yes thats correct
[01:04] <mkquist__> Joke_: then just restore the old settings and that should allow you to boot into ubuntu again
[01:05] <dj_segfault> Gstar: "* MySQL is stopped."
[01:05] <Joke_> And how do I do that/
[01:05] <mkquist__> Joke_: i was heading you in that direction... to just fix you start up issue..
[01:05] <killaxxl> i got graphic issues too but if i keep trying to reboot it works
[01:05] <Joke_> Yeh, seems easier.
[01:05] <NickM|Netbook> i cant unmount an ftp drive
[01:06] <mkquist__> Joke_: cd to you original /etc/X11 folder and see if there is a xorg.conf backup
[01:06] <Gstar> you have 3306 open
[01:06] <NickM|Netbook> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[01:06] <lein> Billiard: error: unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition
[01:06] <NickM|Netbook> i get that error when i try and unmount it
[01:06] <Gstar> when you did a status on mysql didnt give any permissin errors?
[01:06] <mkquist__> Joke_: open a terminal and type cd /etc/X11
[01:06] <Joke_> i did
[01:07] <dj_segfault> Gstar: No permission errors. Just * MySQL is stopped.
[01:07] <mkquist__> Joke_: k
[01:07] <Billiard> lein: is the partition mounted or somehting?
[01:07] <mkquist__> Joke_: is there a backup?
[01:07] <lein> Billiard: no
[01:07] <dj_segfault> Gstar: I have to have mysql open to my intranet because my mythtv frontends need to get to it
[01:07] <Joke_> What do I do after I type that in... sorry man linux noob.
[01:07] <mkquist__> Joke_: then sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg-conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:07] <mkquist__> Joke_: is there a backup?
[01:07] <NickM|Netbook> how do i unmount this ftp drive without having to restart my comp?
[01:08] <lein> Billiard: mtab doesn't show it at all
[01:08] <Joke_> no file in directory...
[01:08] <Joke_> means no right? :(
[01:08] <mkquist__> Joke_: /etc/X11?
[01:08] <Gstar> have a look in /var/log/messages anything in there?
[01:08] <mkquist__> Joke_: lol
[01:08] <dj_segfault> NickM|Netbook: Did you do a ps to make sure ftp wasn't still running?
[01:08] <Joke_> yeah there
[01:09] <mkquist__> Joke_: theres nothing there?
[01:09] <NickM|Netbook> dj_segfault, ummmmm no
[01:09] <Joke_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg-conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf   i  pasted that and it said nothing
[01:09] <tux_blue> hello
[01:09] <joey_> I have a question about wicd. I want to set it so that I either have to enter my wireless password or my system password to connect to an encrypted network. does anybody know how to do this?
[01:09] <Joke_> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg-conf-backup': No such file or directory
[01:09] <NickM|Netbook> i used the connect to server thing
[01:09] <AnakinSkywhopper> Good evening
[01:09] <Billiard> lein: maybe try parted
[01:09] <Billiard> lein: or fdisk
[01:09] <mkquist__> Joke_: did you check for a backup?
[01:09] <NickM|Netbook> and i cant disconnect now
[01:09] <AnakinSkywhopper> I'm new to IRC. How do I see a list of channels and change?
[01:09] <dreki> every time i start ubuntu i get and error "can not update ICE.authority"
[01:10] <xangua> AnakinSkywhopper: /list
[01:10] <Joke_> yes i typed the line in u sent me: cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg-conf-backup': No such file or directory
[01:10] <mkquist__> Joke_: and that command shouldn't be run till you know what the backup is called... =(
[01:10] <NickM|Netbook> AnakinSkywhopper, /list
[01:10] <Matthew11> good night guys!
[01:10] <Joke_> oh...
[01:10] <mkquist__> Joke_: good, now -look- in the /etc/X11 folder for a backup first...
[01:10] <joey_> anybody here know about wicd?
[01:10] <joey_> I have a question about wicd. I want to set it so that I either have to enter my wireless password or my system password to connect to an encrypted network. does anybody know how to do this?
[01:10] <iflema> Joke_ in a terminal type ' ls /etc/X11 |grep xorg '
[01:10] <AnakinSkywhopper> Hmm. It no workie.
[01:11] <Joke_> k
[01:11] <agroker> I have somehow lost my 500Mb swap file, df and fstab do not show it anymore, but GParted shows those 500Mb as "unformatted partition" /dev/sda5, how can I bring my swap back?
[01:11] <Joke_> output: xorg.conf xorg.conf.20100125111515
[01:11] <jrib> !swap | agroker
[01:11]  * iflema :|
[01:11] <dreki> every time i start ubuntu i get and error "can not update ICE.authority" does anyone know why?
[01:11] <jrib> agroker: format it and add it to fstab
[01:11] <Gstar> df dont show swap
[01:12] <agroker> jrib, format it as swap?
[01:12] <jrib> agroker: yes
[01:12] <agroker> jrib, thanks
[01:12] <rumpsy> Being an admin i want to a startup application for users, how can i do that
[01:12] <rumpsy> Being an admin i want add to a startup application for users, how can i do that
[01:12] <dj_segfault> Gstar: You said 3306 is oopen, but I see it only open to my intranet.  Is that still a problem?  I had it that way before.
[01:12] <Laibsch> Hi.  I have openssh-server installed on my karmic machine.  But I don't want it to start at boot time.  How can I disable it?  I looked through /etc/default/ssh and /etc/ssh but found nothing obvious.
[01:12] <lein> draki: its most likely a permision  issue, ive had this happen a few times
[01:12] <mkjackson> hey folks, is there any way to tell if a partition is being read using an encryption system?
[01:12] <mkjackson> I'm not sure if I encrypted it or not
[01:12] <rumpsy> Being an admin i want  to add a startup application for users, how can i do that
[01:13] <Gstar> dj shouldnt be if your only accessing it locally
[01:13] <dreki> lein do you know what i can do about it?
[01:13] <Billiard> dreki: what does "ls -ld .ICEauthority" give you?
[01:13] <Gstar> have you rebooted the server if you have does it fail to start on reboot?
[01:13] <agroker> ok, fdisk -l shows my swap as /dev/sda5, does that mean everything is fine?
[01:13] <Billiard> dreki: make that "ls -ld ~/.ICEauthority"
[01:14] <krabador> dj_segfault, do you can help me?
[01:14] <agroker> even if fstab does not mention swap?
[01:14] <jrib> agroker: swapon -s
[01:14] <occy> is there some tool that will allow you to browse contents of a zip or tar.gz file via console.  maybe an ncurses based tool?
[01:15] <Billiard> agroker: fdisk showing the swap doesnt mean it is being used
[01:15] <agroker> jrib, nothing, also free shows it to be 0, I see now
[01:15] <helper> hey! is there any tool i can open with webmin for ex: or alone which give me graph on my HDD  how much it use? for example i need it to track my squid how much it sill have a space but on graph! thx
[01:15] <agroker> Billiard, I realize now
[01:15] <jrib> occy: no idea but check midnight commander?
[01:15] <Joke_> mkquit, u there?
[01:15] <jrib> agroker: right, it needs to be in your fstab afaik
[01:15] <mkquist__> Joke_: still here
[01:15] <sargully> hm
[01:15] <lein> draki: i booted to console and did "chmod -rwx <username>:<username> ~/.ICEauthority"
[01:15] <rumpsy> how to integrate two users and run both at a time
[01:15] <dj_segfault> krabador: I'm sorry.  I saw the problem at a Linux Installfest and our research at the time showed others having that problem, but it was long enough ago I don't remember what the solution was, if any.  Only that they're the only ones that don't use the pins in the headphone jack to physically disconnect the speakers AFAIK.
[01:15] <meganerd> helper: look at cacti
[01:15] <dreki> Billiard, "-rw------- 1 root root 7597 2010-01-23 00:26 /home/steve/.ICEauthority"
[01:15] <Joke_> Did u see what I wrote? I think it found it.
[01:15] <mkquist__> Joke_: thought iflema was working with you
[01:16] <jrib> occy: I mean, you understand that you can have tar and zip just list the contents too right?
[01:16] <Joke_> ohh,  sorry.
[01:16] <agroker> jrib, thanks for the faq, I should be able to do it now
[01:16] <helper> meganerd,  hey thx i'll look now! but this how work? like after install check http://localhost ?
[01:16] <Billiard> dreki: do a "sudo chown steve ~/.ICEauthority"
[01:16] <Gstar> one thing to try dj would be to reinstall the nmysql server
[01:16] <jrib> Laibsch: install sysv-rc-conf and disable the ssh service from starting
[01:16] <mkquist__> Joke_: well, you might want to check what that file the one xorg.conf.20100125111515 has in it
[01:17] <mkquist__> Joke_: are you familiar with pastebin?
[01:17] <Joke_> yes i am
[01:17] <iflema> helper in a terminal type ' baobab ' also under applications / accessories desktop menu
[01:17] <Laibsch> jrib: thank you
[01:17] <helper> iflema, thx =)
[01:17] <Billiard> dreki: sorry steve:steve instead of steve would be better
[01:17] <occy> jrb howdy ltns... :)
[01:17] <kickassmixernerd> hi
[01:17] <jrib> occy: what?
[01:18] <kickassmixernerd> looking for a job
[01:18] <jrib> kickassmixernerd: hi, wrong channel :)
[01:18] <Morphias> ok.  i was running ubuntu 9.10, x64 but i dont think that was the issue.  I had a kernel panic due to my intel graphics card (X3100, and saw that there was memory leak in the drivers.  How well known is this issue and is there a fix for it?
[01:18] <occy> <-- Trae
[01:18] <occy> from themes.org/linux.com  but anyway
[01:18] <occy> heh
[01:18] <mkquist__> Joke_: could you paste the contents of the two xorg files there?
[01:18] <dreki> Billiard, well i did it the first way and it took me back to a prompt should i redo it with steve:steve?
[01:18] <dj_segfault> Gstar: I'm desperate.  WIll try reinstalling server.   I have databases backed up but hopefully it won't overwrite them.  Thanks.
[01:18] <Billiard> dreki: yeah
[01:18] <kickassmixernerd> jrib: huh?
[01:18] <meganerd> helper: yes, you I tend to acceess it via https:// remotely
[01:18] <Joke_> if you can tell me how to open them lol :(
[01:18] <jrib> kickassmixernerd: this channel is for ubuntu support, not job seeking
[01:18] <occy> jrb I'm looking for a way to browse the file contents in a "clicky" type way via console.
[01:18] <meganerd> helper: yes, though I tend to acceess it via https:// remotely
[01:18]  * Joke_ hangs his head in shame
[01:19] <dreki> Billiard, ok took me back to a prompt again
[01:19] <meganerd> occy: look at mc
[01:19] <dj_segfault> krabador: My user group is the Boston Linux and UNIX Group http://www.blu.org  If you ask on the mailing list someone else might remember the solution.  It's free and open.
[01:19] <kickassmixernerd> jrib: ubuntu support job....
[01:19] <meganerd> occy: or lftp for remote
[01:19] <joey_> New question: I have a question about wicd. I want to set it so that I either have to enter my wireless password or my system password to connect to an encrypted network. does anybody know how to do this?
[01:20] <dreki> Billiard, shoult i restart and try it?
[01:20] <krabador> dj_segfault, thanx
[01:20] <jrib> kickassmixernerd: this isn't the place for that, this channel is for community-provided support
[01:20] <kickassmixernerd> jrib: w/e
[01:20] <mkquist__> Joke_: np you can just use gedit to open them and copy/paste
[01:20] <NamVet1> can't watch this video here, any help?  http://www.thecauseofeffect.com/#
[01:20] <lein> draki: ls -ld ~/.ICEauthority
[01:20] <occy> yeah checking out MC now
[01:21] <lein> draki: do "ls -ld ~/.ICEauthority" again
[01:21] <dreki> lein ok
[01:21] <dj_segfault> I want to uninstall mysql-server and reinstall it.  Where are the files associated with the databases so I can back them up just in case?
[01:22] <Joke_> how do i open it from the terminial.. im sorry i still dont follow
[01:22] <occy> MC worked fine... problem is my backup isn't new enough
[01:22] <occy> lol
[01:22] <occy> thanks guys!
[01:22] <jrib> dj_segfault: uninstalling something and reinstalling is unlikely to accomplish much.  /Why/ do you want to do so?
[01:22] <jrib> Joke_: open what?
[01:22] <Joke_> the xorg.xonf file
[01:22] <dreki> Bilge, lein, -rw------- 1 steve steve 7597 2010-01-23 00:26 /home/steve/.ICEauthority
[01:22] <dan__> can someone help me it is regarding my wifi
[01:22] <jrib> Joke_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:23] <Gstar> /var/lib/mysql not 100% though
[01:23] <jack5463> does java script load with the ubuntu live cd?
[01:23] <Billiard> dreki: looks good
[01:23] <lein> draki: normaly if console give you a new prompt and no messages then what you did worked. that should fix the issue
[01:23] <mkquist__> jrib: trying to help restore his X conf
[01:23] <dj_segfault> jrib: After upgrading 9.04 to 9.10 mysql won't start.  Gstar tried to help me but we ran out of things to try and very little help from my logs.
[01:23] <jrib> jack5463: yes...
[01:23] <Billiard> jack5463: what do you mean? the webbrowser supports javascript
[01:23] <jrib> dj_segfault: what happens when you try?
[01:23] <jongbergs> hi, what command-line program supports video and music playback in console terminal?
[01:23] <jrib> jongbergs: mplayer, vlc
[01:23] <dreki> Billiard, lein, ok thanks a bunch i will try it
[01:24] <dj_segfault> jrib: It just says it failed.  Log files here http://pastebin.com/m707b199
[01:24] <Joke_> mkquist
[01:24] <jongbergs> jrib: is this possible without X window?
[01:24] <mkquist__> Joke_: still here
[01:24] <Joke_> im so lost, man.
[01:25] <midoo> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*
[01:25] <Tiders> Which log will show me why my computer just crashed
[01:25] <occy> Win.  I found newer backups!  weee.
[01:25] <jongbergs> Tiders: cat /var/log/messages
[01:25] <Billiard> Tiders: syslog maybe
[01:26] <scunizi> jongbergs: music isn't too much of a problem.. aplay will do that and I"m sure there are others .. video is something else if you don't have the gui loaded.. there's one prog. that I tried about a year ago but it's different.. It takes the video and plays it as ASCII code..
[01:26] <mkquist__> Joke_: np...  sounds to me like your xorg.conf file has the wrong settings in it now... if there is a backup then you just copy that over and log out
[01:26] <jrib> jongbergs: sure, you can use framebuffer if you want
[01:26] <jack5463> jrib, Billard, when i try to run certain pages it tells me java script or adobe needs to be installed... but it won't install them. if i search flash apps in synaptic package manager and apply everything there it doesn't solve the problem
[01:26] <mkquist__> Joke_: log in and you should be back, or in this case reboot out of live cd
[01:26] <Morphias> Can someone help me with Intel Linux driver issues?
[01:26] <Joke_> so what do i do after I log off?
[01:27] <mkquist__> Joke_: well after you copy the backup to your xorg.conf file you reboot and that should do it...
[01:27] <jrib> !who | Joke_
[01:27] <jongbergs> !ask | Morphias
[01:27] <jrib> !flash > jack5463
[01:27] <occy> I'm continually amazed at how relavant console based apps are still to this day.
[01:27] <jrib> jack5463: make sure you restart your browser after you install flash
[01:27] <Joke_> mkquist, how do I back it up?
[01:28] <mkquist__> Joke_: just start typing my name and tab will finish it for you... btw
[01:28] <Tiders> Okay so I think pulseaudio crashed my system has anyone ever seen this before?      "Jan 20 22:59:59 shawn-desktop pulseaudio[4490]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink."
[01:28] <Billiard> jack5463: anything javascript should work fine on the live cd, you will need to install flashplayer to have flash like others are saying
[01:28] <Tiders> That error was spammed about 300 times in the log
[01:28] <Joke_> k
[01:28] <Joke_> mkquist__: so how do i back it up?
, i am not in the mood for channel jokes, i already posted my ISSUE so if you or anyone else have the technical skills to use irc, you also have the technical skills to scroll up
[01:28]  * iflema whoever said simply reformat... brilliant.... 
[01:30] <dreki> Billiard, lein that fixed it thanks,   what does that file do?
[01:30] <mkquist__> Joke_: type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup  to start
[01:30] <Billiard> dreki: i have no clue, i would have to google
[01:30] <Joke_> mkquist__:  really sorry for having no clue, been up all night treying to fix.
[01:31] <lein> draki: no clue either
[01:31] <Morphias> like i said, I have an Intel Graphics card.  Ubuntu 9.10, x64.  I experienced a kernel panic.  I learned that it was the card.  Any fix?
[01:32] <Joke_> mkquist__:  it returns no output, does that mean it's done?
[01:32] <AwesomeGuy> Kernel Panis on the Dance Floor
[01:32] <AwesomeGuy> Panic
[01:32] <mkquist__> Joke_: no output, you just created a back up of you current config (but its prob broken =( )
[01:32] <AwesomeGuy> Kernel Panis at the disco.
[01:32] <Joke_> mkquist__:  ill take it did, brb restating
[01:32] <AwesomeGuy> Panic*
[01:32] <NSsmiles> hi
[01:32] <mkquist__> Joke_:  then, if that xorg.conf.20100125111515 is a good backup, type -  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20100125111515 /etc/X11/xorg.conf and that will replace it with the old one
[01:33] <jongbergs> jrib, scunizi : thanks for the tip..
[01:33] <mkquist__> Joke_: hold on
[01:33] <NSsmiles> how do you get the list of rooms
[01:33] <Joke_> kk
[01:33] <dave`> hey guys, using apt-cache how can i see all the package versions available, i want to install imagemagick 6.5
[01:33] <NSsmiles> or channels
[01:33] <dave`> but it defaults to 6.3
[01:33] <jrib> jongbergs, scunizi: you can watch video as usual in framebuffer with mplayer for example :)
[01:33] <mkquist__> Joke_:sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20100125111515 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <mkquist__> Joke_: then reboot
[01:34] <Joke_> mkquist__:  ok
[01:34] <scunizi> jrib: really? I didn't know that. how do you do it?
[01:34] <mkquist__> Joke_: g/l
[01:34] <Joke_> mkquist__:  it just returned to the next line without saying anything
[01:34] <Joke_> hopefully thats it
[01:34] <Joke_> brb
[01:34] <mkquist__> Joke_: k
[01:35] <jrib> scunizi: mplayer -vo fbdev file   in a tty.  You need a working frambuffer.  Also it may be fbdev2 instead of fbdev
[01:35] <jongbergs> jrib: do you mean the output video is in ascii text format?
[01:35] <scunizi> jrib: how do you check for a working frambuffer?
[01:35] <jrib> jongbergs: no, it's not ascii text
[01:35] <jrib> scunizi: try the command and see :)
[01:36] <ChrisMorgan> Palimpsest Disk Utility reports "DISK HAS MANY BAD SECTORS" (65541 to be precise), but I don't believe this is a problem but rather due to the necessity of a hard power off after a freeze.  It was suggested to use fsck, but as I see it this won't help convince the SMART chip on the drive it should try them again.  Any ideas?
[01:36] <evon> can someone please help me update my kernel to support my wacom bamboo tablet? i need someone who can walk me through it step by step. I've already downloaded the drivers to do the update
[01:36] <jongbergs> jrib: ok i'll try that also..hope it works :)
[01:36] <linuxuz3r> how do i force install a 32bit application
[01:36] <jrib> jongbergs: it's nice and all, but I'll stick with X
[01:37] <iflema> ChrisMorgan fsck -f force the issue
[01:37] <ChrisMorgan> And anyway, I haven't been able to get fsck to check my ext4 partition (/dev/sda5) - it's always mounted (even in recovery mode) and I don't really feel like risking its "SEVERE file system damage" or "busy" in the live CD for some reason
[01:38] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: do I get a warranty from you that it won't break anything? :-)
[01:38] <herbero> Hi, I am running Debian Lenny, and I was having no troubles until I suddenly got a GRUB error 17. I read a bit online, it seems that my partition table is messed up, or possibly that one of my hd's is out. But without bash, I am struggling pretty badly. Can I fix this by popping in a live cd? How can I get command line back?
[01:38] <herbero> sorry bout the lengthy post
[01:39] <Billiard> linuxuz3r: i think its dpkg --force-architecture,  dont use it for libs
[01:39] <iflema> ChrisMorgan it cant be mounted the drive ya wanna scan
[01:39] <Drknzz> hi guys! whatg do i need to make my laptops dial-up modem work on ubuntu? im on windows right now tho :/
[01:39] <iflema> ChrisMorgan as you know
[01:39] <Psychouroboros> anyone knows how to make chrome the default browser, instead of firefox?
[01:39] <evon> herbero. testdisk is a good program to use. it's on most popular rescue live CDs
[01:40] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: "e2fsck 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)  |  /dev/sda5 is mounted.  ||  WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.  ||  Do you really want to continue (y/n)? "
[01:40] <evon> can someone please help me update my kernel to support my wacom bamboo tablet? i need someone who can walk me through it step by step. I've already downloaded the drivers to do the update
[01:40] <scunizi> jrib: tried and mplayer tried.. it appeared to run and sound worked but no video
[01:41] <jrib> scunizi: no framebuffer then I guess
[01:41] <Drknzz> evon: i can help you, but what exactly do you mean by updating the kernel? recompiling it?
[01:41] <scunizi> yep
[01:41] <Mad_Hacker> psychouroboros, system->preferences->preferred applications(i'm on 8.04, so it could be different)
[01:41] <herbero> evon: so I need a Live CD to access GRUB?
[01:41] <jrib> !info fbi | scunizi
[01:41] <jrib> scunizi: that's one of my favorite package names
[01:41] <scunizi> jrib: what *is* a framebuffer? part of the video card? driver
[01:41] <herbero> evon:...I mean bash...
[01:41] <linuxuz3r> Billiard: the printer driver that i want to install is 32bits i am on 64bit ubuntu
[01:41] <Psychouroboros> thanks Mad_Hacker
[01:42] <Mad_Hacker> np
[01:42] <evon> drknzz: yes i want to recompile it with a new module to support my wacom bamboo tabley
[01:42] <Drknzz> scunizi: its a sort of cache, like a bridge between cpu and gpu
[01:42] <evon> drknzz: at least that's what I think i have to do
[01:42] <Drknzz> evon: you dont recompile a kernel with a module
[01:42] <Drknzz> evon:  you compile the module for the kernel
[01:42] <evon> drknzz: lol
[01:42] <jrib> scunizi: some way to access a video card that's not X, that's my (probably incorrect) understanding anyway
[01:43] <scunizi> jrib: still no video after installing fbi.. but then I'm running the nvidia binary blob
[01:43] <Drknzz> evon: try this: cd /wacom/driver/folder ./configure make sudo make install
[01:43] <jrib> scunizi: right, fbi wouldn't do anything.  I just liked the name
[01:43] <Billiard> linuxuz3r: you sure there isnt a package in the package manager that would support your printer?
[01:43] <jrib> scunizi: you might try uvesafb I guess. I liked that one, though I don't have it enabled right now
[01:44] <scunizi> linuxuz3r: install the 32 bit libraries
[01:44] <evon> drknzz: i did that already but it has done nothing for me. here's the instruction i am trying to figure out http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/kernel
[01:44] <malicious-mind> Hi, i have this error, and i find the page to fix it but i do not know how:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/441408
[01:44] <iflema> ChrisMorgan in a terminal try ' sudo touch /forcefsck '
[01:44] <scunizi> jrib: no biggie.. more curiosity than anything else..
[01:44] <iflema> ChrisMorgan then reboot
[01:45] <ChrisMorgan> Ahhh... so you can do it like that.  That seems a good way of doing it
[01:45] <evon> drknzz: brb. i'm gonna get the kids ready for bed. thanks in advance for the help
[01:45] <ChrisMorgan> Then just the normal GRUB entry?
[01:45] <iflema> ChrisMorgan boot as normal....
[01:45] <helper> meganerd,  i install it but when i type: cacti say command not found! i install it using: apt-get install cacti
[01:45] <Drknzz> evon: ok, ill be reading that webpage and try to make it easier for you to understand
[01:47] <malicious-mind> anybody can help me?
[01:47] <jokeem> hi
[01:47] <jokeem> mkquist__:  u t here?
[01:47] <mkquist__> jokeem: that joke?
[01:47] <ChrisMorgan> I suppose the "problem" if problem it is could also be in my NTFS partitions - my 160GB has only about 40GB of ext4 at the moment.  fsck won't help with that...
[01:48] <jokeem> mkquist__:  it is, it didint work :(
[01:48] <mkquist__> jokeem: yep
[01:48] <mkquist__> jokeem: what happened?
[01:48] <jokeem> mkquist__: same thing.. i startup it pixelates and freezes
[01:48] <mkquist__> jokeem: well that was a stretch, assuming the file you copied was a good one
[01:48] <jokeem> hmmm
[01:48] <mkquist__> jokeem: hmm have you looked at the logs at all to see whats happening?
[01:49] <jokeem> mkquist__:  i dont know how to..
[01:49] <Drknzz> evon:  u here?
[01:49] <jrib> scunizi: I forgot which console browser can do it, but there is at least one that can also display images from the web in frame buffer too
[01:50] <helper> iflema,  when i type : baobab , give error : ** (baobab:6839): CRITICAL **: Unable to parse option: Cannot open display:
[01:50] <ezrafree> if a program's latest version isn't available in the software center, can i just install from source instead? new to ubuntu and wondering if that'll mess things up or not to install software that isn't from the software center
[01:50] <scunizi> jrib: I've used elinks2 -g for that but it's not framebuffer..
[01:50] <jrib> ezrafree: it's recommended you don't
[01:50] <iflema> helper that was 4 gui
[01:50] <Drknzz> ezrafree: if u are going to do that, ud better uninstall it from apt-get first
[01:50] <ezrafree> jrib: i see
[01:51] <ezrafree> Drknzz: and "Ubuntu Software Center" is just a frontend to apt-get, right?
[01:51] <Drknzz> ezrafree: jrib forgot to mention u can always do it, but try to only do so if its EXTREMELY neccesary or the version on repos wont work for you :)
[01:52] <jrib> Drknzz: basically, if you are asking that question, you probably shouldn't :)
[01:52] <iflema> ChrisMorgan im assuming sda5 is the / (root) partition
[01:52] <mkquist__> jokeem: look in adminstration - log file viewer
[01:52] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: correct
[01:52] <iflema> ChrisMorgan in a terminal try ' sudo touch /forcefsck '
[01:52] <Drknzz> ezrafree: yes, along synaptic, packagekit..... even tho apt-get its just a frontend to the real thing: dpkg
[01:52] <mazda01> wondering if there is a medibuntu repo for lucid yet?
[01:52] <ChrisMorgan> Yep, I did that.
[01:53] <jrib> !lucid | mazda01
[01:53] <jokeem> mkquist__:  do u want the xorg log? ill pastebin it?
[01:53] <ChrisMorgan> Just about ready to restart now
[01:53] <mazda01> tried googling it but couldnt' seem to find anything yet
[01:53] <ezrafree> Drknzz: gotcha. i used to run debian some years ago so it's not all completely new to me
[01:53] <iflema> ChrisMorgan ya scared.....
[01:53] <mazda01> !lucid | jrib
[01:53] <jrib> mazda01: #ubuntu+1 for help with lucid, not here...
[01:53] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: why do you ask? :-)
[01:53] <jokeem> mkquist__:  http://pastebin.com/m2f3285ca
[01:53] <mkquist__> jokeem: go ahead, if i cant help - then others can take a looksee too
[01:54] <ChrisMorgan> I'm just installing lynx for the fun of it.
[01:54] <evon> drknzz: yes
[01:54] <Drknzz> ezrafree: ok, just remember installing with dpkg AND compiling from source can lead to some VERY nasty situations :D
[01:54] <evon> drknzz: sorry about that
[01:54] <lizk> what is the numbering scheme for grub2, whre is the manpage?
[01:54] <Drknzz> evon: np
[01:54] <iflema> ChrisMorgan i guess i would be.... if that for somereaso does not work there many other ways to accomplish this
[01:54] <evon> drknzz: making the bottle now
[01:54] <jokeem> mkquist__:  okay. well there it is for anyone to see..
[01:54] <Drknzz> evon: did you try to follow this procedure? http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/buildwacom6
[01:54] <mazda01> jrib, thanks for the info. i just tried /join #ubuntu+1    but it didn't go to that  channel/.
[01:55] <tcarter> i have a phillips webcam and installed setpwc from synaptic Pkg mngr...can anyone tell me where i can find it or how to run it?
[01:55] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: having searched around it seems that it's mostly just a default too low in palimpsest... it seems safe to ignore
[01:55] <ezrafree> Drknzz: yes i shall bear this in mind, it's not so important to me in this case, netbeans 6.7.1 will work fine for now until a package for 6.8 shows up in the software center
[01:55] <ChrisMorgan> Still I'd like to see if I can fix it
[01:55] <NamVet1> would like to watch this video but can't any help? http://www.thecauseofeffect.com/#
[01:55] <jrib> !register | mazda01
[01:55] <ChrisMorgan> Dreadful, I may need to reboot into Windows and run chkdisk!  :O
[01:55] <mazda01> jrib, what's with you, i am already registered!
[01:55] <evon> drknzz: didn't see that one. i will try it now
[01:55] <SerpentX> hi
[01:56] <Drknzz> evon: ok, tell em if u need something
[01:56] <mazda01> !register | jrib
[01:56] <jrib> mazda01: stop doing that.  Anyway, you aren't identified
[01:56] <mazda01> jrib, i have had mazda01 within freenode for ever, since back to probably fiesty fawn
[01:56] <SerpentX> Anyone here have knowledge in Phone / VOIP?
[01:57] <jrib> mazda01: right now, at this moment, you are not identified.
[01:57] <mazda01> IDENTIFY mazda01
[01:57] <jokeem> mkquist__:  any thoughts?
[01:57] <scunizi> SerpentX: what's up
[01:57] <jrib> mazda01: (and thus why you can't join #ubuntu+1)
[01:57] <tcarter> Does any one know anything about this?:
[01:57] <tcarter>  i have a phillips webcam and installed setpwc from synaptic Pkg mngr...can anyone tell me where i can find it or how to run it?
[01:57] <mkquist__> jokeem: looking at it
[01:57] <SerpentX> What I'd like to do is set up my linux box to allow connections voice connections and use my lanline to dial out
[01:57] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok
[01:57] <actkbd> hello
[01:58] <WildAtheart> Hi actkb
[01:58] <mazda01> jrib, ok, i'll look into that. i thought mazda01 and mazda01_ were both registered for me.
[01:58] <mazda01> BRB
[01:58] <jrib> mazda01: they may be, but you still need to tell your client to identify when you connect
[01:58] <actkbd> can somone please explain when i run actkbd i get an error saying Error: could not open /dev/input/event0: Permission denied
[01:58] <WildAtheart> Wow this room chanel has many people in it
[01:58] <actkbd> how i might be able to correct this
[01:58] <actkbd> its search for my keyboard right?
[01:58] <scunizi> SerpentX: that can be done with Asterisk and other spinoffs from Asterisk.. it's in the repos but isn't the easiest thing to get working.. there is a nice pdf on their site that will help quite a bit.. but to answer your question.. it is possible.
[01:59] <WildAtheart> actkbd sign on as root
[01:59] <actkbd> searching*
[01:59] <Dimoutlook> keep getting corrupted dvd-rw disks when I blank with brasero
[01:59] <SerpentX> Asterisk, i'm on it thanks
[01:59] <Drknzz> actkbd: try sudo actkbd ;)
[01:59] <Drknzz> Dimoutlook: i think i read brasero had bugs with that somewher, try updating brasero from source or use something else :p
[01:59] <scunizi> SerpentX: Asterisk is basically a voip server.. you can have a full pbx system with it if you spend enough time :)
[02:00] <actkbd> Drknzz: right tried that it works but wy cant i chmod it and use it regular
[02:00] <WildAtheart> scunizi LOL..
[02:00] <linuxuz3r> thanks i got it working
[02:00] <_MM_> how do I check the size of a file from consolee?
[02:00] <WildAtheart> scunizi its better to just use freepbx
[02:00] <mdg> I'm having trouble getting NickServe to respond so I can register my nick - any tips?
[02:00] <Dimoutlook> Drknzz thanks thought it might be a bug
[02:00] <neo_> hola alguen abla español
[02:00] <WildAtheart> Asterisk is an awwsome program.. you cam make it do about anything
[02:00] <scunizi> WildAtheart: based on asterisk .. right?  .. just a varient
[02:00] <Drknzz> actkbd: maybe your app requests DIRECT access to the keyboard, or whatever device is that
[02:00] <WildAtheart> with voice calls..
[02:01] <Drknzz> Dimoutlook: np :)
[02:01] <mkquist__> jokeem: can you pastebin you /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup?
[02:01] <WildAtheart> scunizi no freepbx  is a user interface  that lets you create dialplans.. if you expert dialplan coder you wouldnt need freepbx
[02:01] <mkquist__> jokeem: or maybe just the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:01] <Dimoutlook> Drknzz I will have to read up on how to compile from source
[02:02] <scunizi> WildAtheart: ah.. been looking for something like that.. so a gui front end for asterisk
[02:02] <WildAtheart> Freepbx more or less writes all the code for asterisk.. but asterisk is still the aplication that handle the calls
[02:02] <scunizi> WildAtheart: I like it.
[02:02] <jokeem> if i can work out how to i will mkquist__
[02:02] <Dimoutlook> Thanks to all have to see how to add source bye
[02:02] <Drknzz> Dimoutlook: pretty easy: apt-get remove brasero; cd /path/to/brasero/sourcecode; ./configure; make; sudo make install
[02:02] <WildAtheart> scunizi yes... Also asterisk makes a GUI for it as well.. but depending on your needs you might like freepbx better
[02:03] <jokeem> mkquist__:  no i have no idea how to.
[02:03] <jokeem> lol
[02:03] <WildAtheart> scuniz what country you from?
[02:03] <scunizi> WildAtheart: U.S.
[02:03] <mkquist__> jokeem: just type - gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <mkquist__> jokeem: then copy that
[02:04] <WildAtheart> scunizi you using asterisk for business or resale?
[02:04] <NamVet1> Karmic Koala OS would like to watch this video but can't any help? http://www.thecauseofeffect.com/#
[02:04] <scunizi> WildAtheart: neither.. fun.. I actually sell IP based pbx's that have a linux kernel but the rest is custom..
[02:05] <jokeem> mkquist__:  http://pastebin.com/m1968d2d9
[02:05] <WildAtheart> scunizi ok cool .. you a developer or installer..
[02:05] <jetpack> is anyone in here familiar with Joy2Key?
[02:06] <WildAtheart> I am setting up servers with PBX for leasing
[02:06] <scunizi> WildAtheart: general manager, sales manager, web developer, personell director etc.. I'm the only one in my department until we get the company up and running more.
[02:06] <titaniumbrella> hi can someone tell me why videos get choppy after a while *most likely after updates* when streaming from websites?
[02:06] <scunizi> WildAtheart: and installer
[02:06] <WildAtheart> scunizi sounds interesting
[02:06] <Ricket> my computer screen just froze and my caps & scroll lock lights are blinking (not num lock). it's a kernel panic right? Do only those 2 blinking mean something more than that?
[02:06] <titaniumbrella> some sites got choppy*but not all* after having ubuntu installed for 2 months
[02:06] <WildAtheart> scunizi are you using freepbx now?
[02:07] <howdeep> !xfce
[02:07] <scunizi> WildAtheart: nope.. looking at what it will take to install
[02:07] <jokeem> mkquist__:  whaat ya think?
[02:07] <titaniumbrella> umm using 9.10
[02:07] <WildAtheart> scunizi... I have have a sulution nearly completed.. takes only 5 minutes to install
[02:08] <evon> drknzz: ok everything configured nicely but this happened when i ran make http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4aef9afb
[02:08] <_MM_> Any experience using  DUPLICITY ? why is this overwriting my stuff on the server running this command ? duplicity --include /var/a/db --include /var/a/resources --exclude '**' /var/a ftp://50465@my_ip//backup_duplicity
[02:08] <WildAtheart> comlete server.. with asterisk.. web server.. email.. freebpx.. voip billing...
[02:08] <WildAtheart> complete
[02:08] <dj_segfault> Upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 installed mysql-server-core-5.0, but not mysql-server-5.0 (which has the init.d file and logrotate, etc).  Is there a reason for that?
[02:08] <scunizi> WildAtheart: I'm jealous.. I don't code :(
[02:08] <Drknzz> evon: im checking that
[02:08] <evon> drknzz: thans
[02:09] <Drknzz> evon: you have kernel headers installed?
[02:09] <jph_> Running a fresh install of ubuntu server 9.10 sudo apt-get update fails to connect to anything and sudo tasksel only list three things... I want to install a LAMP package... What do I need to do?
[02:09] <WildAtheart> scunizi lol.. you dont need to code.. Shoot me over an email.. I will send you a link when i am done.. you can check it out..
[02:09] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[02:09] <lizk> in grub2 what is the number of first logical partition
[02:09] <evon> drknzz: i don't know. can i install them through synaptic?
[02:09] <WildAtheart> scunizi i am setting this up for none coder.. business users..
[02:09] <jrib> !grub2 > lizk
[02:10] <Drknzz> evon: yes
[02:10] <WildAtheart> its made easy for business that want 12 phone lines..
[02:10] <Drknzz> evon: make sure they are of the same version as your actual kernel (u can check that with uname -r)
[02:10] <jetpack> Alright guys, I have a USB game controller, and I want to use it as a media remote sort of deal on my computer. Anyone have any ideas? I think I am getting pretty close...
[02:10] <jimcooncat> I'd like to know if there is an option where I could have "group homes", where a home directory is provided for each group formed by manual input. Anyone heard of a setup like that?
[02:11] <lizk> jrib: i read that doesn't answer my question
[02:11] <evon> drknzz: yes it looks like the headers are already installed.
[02:11] <Drknzz> evon: hmmmpphh
[02:11] <evon> drknzz: but there are a number of different headers to choose though
[02:12] <Drknzz> evon: weird, re-check ./configure's output
[02:12] <Drknzz> evon: make sure you have the headers for your actual kernel
[02:12] <jetpack> Anyone?
[02:12] <FernandoF> Hello! good evening
[02:12] <WildAtheart> Drknzz are you an expert in unbuntu?
[02:12] <jrib> lizk: wasn't your question about whether numbering starts at 0 or 1 in grub 2?
[02:12] <evon> drknzz: i see linux-headers-2.6.31-17-generic-pae
[02:12] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Not really an expert, but i do know my way around
[02:12] <FernandoF> Anyone knows how to bypass error "Move background page assignment" in OpenOffice?
[02:13] <evon> drknzz: that matches my kernel and is already installed
[02:13] <evon> drknzz: but there's also generic and 386
[02:13] <mkquist__> jokeem: which radeon card do you have - if you know?
[02:13] <Drknzz> evon: hmmm, check that webpage for anything related to that
[02:13] <WildAtheart> Drknzz do you do freelance work?
[02:13] <jokeem> mkquist__:  dunno
[02:14] <eeepcwifi> Hi, I was wondering if there is anyone that can help me with my new eeepc / netbook ubuntu wifi connection problem?
[02:14] <Drknzz> evon: i  think those errors come from bad code, but im not absolutely sure
[02:14] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: huh?
[02:14] <FernandoF> reported bug 46307 on that issue is there for ages with no solution
[02:14] <WildAtheart> Drknzz do you work for pay over the net?
[02:14] <lizk> jrib: sda1=1 sdb=2 sdc=3 sdd=extended sde=firstLogical=?
[02:14] <NamVet1> senare 8-)
[02:14] <eeepcwifi> I installed 9.10 netbook remix and I can connect fine to open wifi networks but it keeps prompting me to enter my key when I try to join my network.
[02:15] <eeepcwifi> my network is wep 128bit and is not broadcasting.
[02:15] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Nope, im just helping out while my download finished over this solw dial-up link XD
[02:15] <eeepcwifi> I don't even know where to start
[02:15] <mkquist__> jokeem: type lspci at command prompt
[02:15] <WildAtheart> lol Drknzz
[02:15] <jetpack> Alright guys, I have a USB game controller, and I want to use it as a media remote sort of deal on my computer. Anyone have any ideas? I think I am getting pretty close... I just need a little bit of help
[02:15] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: hehehhe, i was a noob, and i like to help noobs :)
[02:16] <jrib> lizk: same as before afaik.  It's the nth partition.  So in your example, 5
[02:16] <evon> drknzz: my output from ./configure http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5908a5ef.  according to the site that'
[02:16] <WildAtheart> Drknzz well that is good.. I use centos mostly.. but starting to switch to ubuntu and would like to hire someone one to do some work.
[02:16] <evon> drknzz: my output from ./configure http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5908a5ef.  according to the site that's what supposed to happen
[02:16] <jokeem> mkquist__:  http://pastebin.com/m166ea1bd
[02:16] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Well, you pretty much dont need to hire ppl, just come here :)
[02:16] <PC_Nerd101> Can anyone explain what the score's refer to when running aptitude full-upgrade etc?   I'm rather confused as to the difference between positive and negative scores.
[02:17] <Drknzz> evon, ima check that out
[02:17] <WildAtheart> LOL Drknzz.. I dont believe you a noob... noobs dont admit too often they are a noob.. unless they begging for help and dont want to act stupid
[02:17] <jrib> !aptitude | PC_Nerd101
[02:17] <dj_segfault> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  I now have mysql 5.0 (I need it for mythtv among other things).  The upgrade installed mysql-server-core-5.0 but not msql-server-5.0.  When I tried installing *that*, it said it needed mysql-client-5.0, which it won't install because mysql-client-5.1 is installed.  Has anyone else seen this?
[02:17] <jrib> PC_Nerd101: no idea, but I'd guess the aptitude manual may have a clue (link on that page)
[02:17] <Drknzz> evon: youre lacking a LOT of needed packages for building that module
[02:18] <evon> drknzz: lol. do tell
[02:18] <WildAtheart> dj_segfault uninstall both.. and reinstall
[02:18] <evon> drknzz: what should i install?
[02:18] <jph_> this is the output of when i run tasksel list-tasks... ~$ sudo tasksel --list-tasks
[02:18] <jph_> i server	Basic Ubuntu server
[02:18] <jph_> i openssh-server	OpenSSH server
[02:18] <jph_> u manual	Manual package selection
[02:18] <jph_>   this is the same and only list offered if i run sudo tasksel with the goal of installing a LAMP server package... where do i start to get my LAMP package?
[02:18] <FloodBot1> jph_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:18] <evon> jph_ use pastebin
[02:18] <jph_> will do
[02:18] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: lol, just ask, id bet someone will help you everytime, just be patient, or ask the bot ;)
[02:18] <Drknzz> evon: hehehe
[02:18] <jrib> dj_segfault: erm, how did you upgrade?
[02:18] <dj_segfault> WildAtheart: Uninstall *which*  Everything mysql?
[02:18] <dj_segfault> jrib: From the updater
[02:19] <cp721> hello how can i undo this command "sudo ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.10.3 to 192.168.10.2 port 49200"
[02:19] <jimmy_birer1> wildheart ask me the question
[02:19] <eeepcwifi> Ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix, eeepc 1000, I can connect to open wifi networks but my wep 128bit hidden network it keeps prompting me to enter my key and never connects.. HELP!!!
[02:19] <jrib> dj_segfault: were you using unofficial repositories or debs?
[02:19] <jokeem> mkquist__:  did you se?
[02:19] <Drknzz> evon:  try searching in synaptic for every name below the kernel and dev
[02:19] <WildAtheart> Drknzz LOL.../   somethings i need only to do once.. i dont always have time to learn.. cheaper to just pay someone
[02:19] <lizk> jrib: you have a link/ereference? In grub1 firstlogical always = 4
[02:19] <dj_segfault> jrib: Not that I know of, other than mutlimedia (dvd stuff)
[02:19] <Drknzz> evon: that may give u all headers u need
[02:19] <jrib> lizk: because counting started at 0 before, now it starts at 1
[02:19] <sharktooth> eeepcwifi:are you using proprietary drivers?
[02:20] <Drknzz> WildAtheart:
[02:20] <evon> jph_ you mean from my ./configure output?
[02:20] <jetpack> eepcwifi: Try resetting your router. Just like, power off / power on
[02:20] <eeepcwifi> sharktooth: its a stock install just installed today
[02:20] <dj_segfault> jrib: Trying to research which version of MySQL is needed for MythTV
[02:20] <WildAtheart> Drknzz I do development for others.. and not always have enough time even for things i know how to do well
[02:20] <eeepcwifi> its not my router.. I tested it on windows and 2 iphones
[02:20] <eeepcwifi> its ubuntu
[02:20] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Its pretty neat to know your way around stuff at all times, but if you do want to hire someone...
[02:20] <WildAtheart> dj_segfault do you have data you are afraid to lose?
[02:21] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: you should go for paid canonical support
[02:21] <lizk> jrib: you are saying that no matter my partitioning, /dev/sdaX always equals hd0,X ?  even with 1 primary 1 logical, /dev/sda3 = hd0,3 ?
[02:21] <sharktooth> eeepcwifi:go to the system|admin|hardware drivers , see if you can install another driver for your wireless card;it MIGHT help, ephasis on might
[02:21] <jrib> lizk: afaik, yes.
[02:21] <mkquist__> jokeem: yea i got it
[02:21] <cp721> hello how can i undo this command "sudo ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.10.3 to 192.168.10.2 port 49200"
[02:21] <dj_segfault> WildAtheart: It's backed up, but I would rather not lose it.  Years of MythTV, wordpress, etc
[02:21] <hyperstream> is it possible to see what port an application is listening on ?
[02:21] <WildAtheart> Drknzz  nice if i do that is there a chance  i might one accross you there?
[02:21] <sharktooth> does anyone know why the upgrade button on ubuntu fails
[02:21] <lizk> jrib: where is that info? I want to be REALLY sure b4 i potentialy hose it
[02:21] <PC_Nerd101> jrib: I've just gone through the manual and haven't specifically found anything relating to scores
[02:22] <Drknzz> cp721: change allow for deny and thats it
[02:22] <jrib> lizk: how would you hose it?  It would just fail to boot
[02:22] <jokeem> mkquist__:  k, did you find anything with either logs?
[02:22] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Nope, but i bet those guys are nice :)
[02:22] <lizk> jrib: that would mean reinstall for me
[02:22] <evon> drknzz: you mean from my ./configure output?
[02:22] <WildAtheart> Drknzz yea they better be nice as much as they charge
[02:22] <Drknzz> evon: yup
[02:22] <WildAtheart> hehe
[02:22] <evon> drknzz: not finding any of them
[02:22] <eeepcwifi> sharktooth: if it matters it connects fine to open networks.. so are drivers the issue?
[02:23] <Drknzz> WildAtheart: Well, i hardly doubt they arent XD
[02:23] <jrib> lizk: add an extra entry in grub instead of deleting the working one, no?
[02:23] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: it did the on-boot-fsck, still the same SMART complaint.  I expect I'll just have to tell it to not warn me.
[02:23] <Drknzz> evon: weird, plz wait
[02:23] <jph_> evon I don't know... I have never had this problem before... I did a clean install of 9.10 and at install i used tasksel as provided in the installation wizard to install OpenSSH however for some unknown reason I didn't install LAMP at that time... no when entering sudo tasksel it only list three options not the long list as before
[02:23] <jetpack> Alright guys, I have a USB game controller, and I want to use it as a media remote sort of deal on my computer. Anyone have any ideas? I think I am getting pretty close... I just need a little bump in the right dirrection
[02:23] <lizk> well i want to concentrate on getting the number 100% correct, rather than play guessing games
[02:23] <eeepcwifi> it says no propietary drivers are in use and it gives none in the list
[02:23] <WildAtheart> jetpack google game controller to make sure its supported first
[02:24] <eeepcwifi> sharktooth: it says no propietary drivers are in use and it gives none in the list
[02:24] <sharktooth> eeepcwifi: with the right drivers can can do more, it is worth a try. I know monitor mode works with some drivers maybe the hidden net will work
[02:24] <sharktooth> eeepcwifi:what router are you using?
[02:24] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: do other computers on the network connect right now?
[02:24] <Drknzz> evon: try installing this and see if configure tells xfree86 stuff is present: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libxxf86misc-dev
[02:25] <jrib> lizk: you would have figured it out already.  The link I gave you earlier explains how the numbering works.  There's also the official grub 2 docs I guess
[02:25] <eeepcwifi> sharktooth: wrt54gl jetpack: yes 1 windows and 2 iphones.. I also deleted and created the network on the iphone to make sure. The router is also new.
[02:25] <jetpack> WildAtHeart: I have. It works flawlessly as a game controller. I am using Joy2Key to convert buttons to key presses, but I can't get it to act like my media keys
[02:25] <lizk> jrib: thing is (i'm using alternate i386) top says "configuration grub-pc" yet the instructions & examples are for old grub with wrong numbering
[02:26] <WildAtheart> jetpack i am new to ubuntu.. not sure i can help you there..
[02:26] <lizk> jrib: will it actualy do the correct thing given the corrct number?
[02:26] <iflema> ChrisMorgan did fsck complained about smart?
[02:26] <jrib> lizk: I don't understand what you just said.  top of what?
[02:26] <ChrisMorgan> iflema: it didn't complain about anything that I noticed
[02:26] <adante> hi guys, i stupidly did do-release-upgrade from an ssh session which died, now there are some dpkg-reconfigure processes that are preventing me from re-running do-release-upgrade - is it safe to just kill them and restart?
[02:26] <pfred1> I think I'm starting to see why Ubuntu wants to drop the gimp from future versions
[02:26] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: i have 1 windows, desktop ubuntu  connected wired and 2 iphones connected wifi fine adn the router is 1 month old.
[02:26] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: try disconnecting and reconnecting the router just in case, and also double check the passphrase. I have an older router that glitches up a lot
[02:26] <lizk> jrib: i'm using the alternate install disk, when promped to write grub to mrbr i decline, then next screen it ask me for hdx,x, gut gives old instructin for grub1
[02:27] <jrib> lizk: what ubuntu version?
[02:27] <lizk> 9.10
[02:27] <jetpack> WildAtHeart: Eh. Thanks anyway.
[02:27] <CIELO> K
[02:27]  * Callum_ scratches his hair over how to configure BIND
[02:27] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: I have done that. and I checked the passphrase with teh iphone cus I was second guessing myself cus it wouldnt connect.
[02:27] <jrib> lizk: I don't actually know if the alternate disk uses grub 2 or not
[02:27] <serengeti> hyperstream: I think something like netstat -anp |grep processname
[02:27] <fulvio> ciao
[02:28] <lizk> jrib: oh, that could make it different from live? it says "grub-pc" in title of that screen, grub-pc is grub2 no?
[02:28] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: if you go into the routers config pages can you pull up a DHCP table? It should have the MAC and IP of everything connected.
[02:28] <jph_> evon any thoughts?
[02:28] <jokeem> mkquist__:  u htere?
[02:28] <jrib> lizk: I don't know.  I suppose if that's true, it's very likely a bug already exists at bugs.ubuntu.com about it
[02:29] <mkquist__> jokeem: still here, i dont use radeon cards, so I'm not sure on their config - maybe someone using radeon gfx could lend a hand?
[02:29] <jetpack> Do any of you guys have experience with Media Keys under Ubuntu?
[02:29] <hyperstream> serengeti, thansk mate
[02:29] <serengeti> hyperstream, no worries :)
[02:29] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok... i might just reinstall
[02:29] <jokeem> so sick of linux
[02:29] <jrib> jetpack: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[02:30] <pfred1> jokeem its not for everyone
[02:30] <mkquist__> jokeem: its worth the learning curve - imho
[02:30] <evon> jph_ sorry that last message i wrote was not meant for you. I actually don't know anything about that stuff
[02:30] <mkquist__> anyone use radeon card can help maybe?
[02:30] <jph_> o
[02:30] <lizk> jrib: thing is this is my second install, first worked briefly then wouldn't boot after update grub said "file not found"
[02:30] <jokeem> yeahh...
[02:30] <jetpack> jrib: huh? I am new to irc. lol
[02:30] <arghh2d2> lol, if you cant handle ubuntu then linux is definitely "not for you"
[02:30] <jokeem> i enjoy linux - but it's too difficult... like all the commands. why so serious?
[02:31] <serengeti> mkquist__ what's the problem?
[02:31] <mkquist__> jokeem: maybe dont make changes till your a little more sure of what they do
[02:31] <jrib> jetpack: irc netiquette is to just jump right in and ask your real question.  Then if someone knows, they will try to help you
[02:31] <hyperstream> jokeem, wrong place to chuck a emo :)
[02:31] <jokeem> mkquist__:  lol pretty much
[02:31] <mkquist__> serengeti: he jokeem cant log into his linux
[02:31] <serengeti> mkquist__ pity :p
[02:31] <pfred1> jokeem you're probably better off not trying Slackware then
[02:31] <mkquist__> serengeti: was thinking his xorg got messed up
[02:31] <FernandoF> OpenOffice 3.1 (ppt) can not open presentation.  Someone can help?
[02:31] <jrib> jokeem: you don't need to run a single command in ubuntu if you don't want to...
[02:31] <gent00> why ubuntu is that slow?
[02:31] <arghh2d2> jokeem: jokeem try gentoo, it's super easy
[02:31] <jokeem> u eventually do.
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> hahahaha
[02:32] <jrib> jokeem: like when?
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> @ gentoo
[02:32] <serengeti> mkquist__ I'll look it up in the log and see if I can help
[02:32] <gent00> solaris will destroy linux eventually
[02:32] <gent00> they begun to sale
[02:32] <jetpack> jrib: oh gotcha. Haha. I don't think my issue would fit on one line.
[02:32] <rip> I tried installing 3 different distros (Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE) on a laptop with a nvidia geforce card in order to find out if any would be able to suspend (sleep) the laptop....  Under the default installation of the three distros, only Fedora successfully suspended the laptop via the included pm-suspend utility from pm-utils and only Fedora, by default, installs the nouveau driver while the other two seem to install the 'vesa' driver
[02:32] <rip> , by default.  Is suspend likely to be working on Fedora exactly because of the nouveau driver?  And does this mean, if I install the nouveau driver, it will work on Ubuntu also?
[02:32] <FernandoF> message i get is "Move background page assignment"
[02:32] <mkquist__> serengeti: thanx
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> =) atleast you know the truth
[02:32] <evon> drknzz: new error this time http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7e9f2e8b
[02:32] <gent00> solarisboy enjoy ur OS
[02:32] <sharktooth> eeepcwifi:I don't know if this will help but here you go;good luck! http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2007/12/29/my-linksys-wrt54gl-ubuntu-wireless-settings.html
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> i will
[02:32] <oorah> i'm having trouble installing onto my ps3 here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBNmM1I_XM
[02:32] <gent00> it`s way better than Lunix
[02:32] <jokeem> anyway i can get skipper passwords/
[02:32] <mkquist__> jokeem: might wanna give serengeti a mo to look at your pastebin
[02:32] <Drknzz> evon: see my private messages?
[02:32] <jrib> jetpack: summarize it and a link with more details (logs, etc.) by using http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: I have the dhcp list
[02:32] <gent00> I mean looser`s unix
[02:32] <jokeem> and a list of installed programs
[02:33] <jph_> anyone have any thoughts on why tasksel will only show three things to install, really two that are installed and some manual package selection tool
[02:33] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok.
[02:33] <evon> drknzz: installed them already
[02:33] <SolarisBoy> well i actually prefer red hat based distros
[02:33] <SolarisBoy> but whos looking anyway huh =)
[02:33] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: but my netbook's mac does not show up in it
[02:33] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: hey um does ubuntu sitll use grub legacy
[02:33] <gent00> linux sucks generally
[02:33] <jrib> gent00: let's stay on-topic please.
[02:33] <Drknzz> evon: i still need to give you more man, wait
[02:33] <oorah> i don't think solaris is user friendly enough to destroy linux lol gent00
[02:33] <jetpack> jrib: Sweet. thanks! will do.
[02:33] <mkquist__> gent00: nice channel for that
[02:33] <evon> drknzz: lol ok thanks
[02:33] <SolarisBoy> well we should stop comparing an OS to a kernel first
[02:33] <jrib> jph_: did you also say apt-get update didn't work?
[02:33] <serengeti> jokeem, I've always used ubuntu with Radeons so there's a small chance I can help
[02:34] <SolarisBoy> solaris is not comparible to linux
[02:34] <arghh2d2> SolarisBoy: tru dat
[02:34] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: Huh. I'm out of ideas then
[02:34] <jph_> jrib yes I did say that
[02:34] <gent00> yeah because solaris is way better
[02:34] <jokeem> serengeti: awesome.
[02:34] <jrib> jph_: did you fix that?
[02:34] <mkquist__> jokeem: what was it you did again the got it futzed up?
[02:34] <oorah> i'm having trouble installing onto my ps3 here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBNmM1I_XM
[02:34] <ta> how can I emulate windows in ubuntu? I need to install MS Project and it cannot run with wine as far as I know
[02:34] <gent00> i saw solaris 10
[02:34] <jrib> gent00: take the discussion elsewhere (last warning)
[02:34] <gent00> ok
[02:34] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: I installed grub on a usbstick but the menu says version 1.97~beta4
[02:34] <jokeem> serengeti:  well when i boot up, the ubuntu screen goes all distorted and freezes.
[02:34] <arghh2d2> ta: virtualbox
[02:34] <gent00> i saw solaris 10 and i understood that Linux will die soon
[02:34] <jph_> jrib negative I bet they are related but I don't know where to start so i came here
[02:35] <jokeem> mkquist__:  thanks for all your help, appreciate it.
[02:35] <sun> anything I should do to get the most out of my system after a fresh install?
[02:35] <mkquist__> give it a rest...
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> hehe
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> AIX is rather defensive these days...
[02:35] <mkquist__> jokeem: sry i couldnt get you back
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  that is the version # for grub2 in ubuntu 9.10 - yes...
[02:35] <evon> gent00: what makes solaris 10 so special?
[02:35]  * sabgenton asks all: if I use grub-install on a drive will it install gurb 2?
[02:35] <eeepcwifi> Jetpack: I know it has to do with ubuntu and connecting to a hidden wep 128bit.. some part of that doesn't work. cus it can connect fine to an open netowrk and my router is definately not the issue 2 other os's connect fine wifi and my wifi printer connects fine to it as well.
[02:35] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: ah
[02:35] <jokeem> mkquist__:  no worries
[02:35] <serengeti> jokeem, can you see the ubuntu logo before this happens?
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !info grubpc
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !info grub-pc
[02:35] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[02:35] <jrib> jph_: right, that's my bet too :)  pastebin your command and the output when you run « sudo apt-get update »
[02:36] <Drknzz> evon: pastebin ./configure --help output
[02:36] <gent00> !info windows
[02:36] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: confusing
[02:36] <gent00> haha
[02:36] <SolarisBoy> evon: its scalable is one of my favs about solaris,, and it has a truly native relation with the hardware it sits on
[02:36] <jph_> jrub will do brb it takes a second or two to fail big
[02:36] <mdg2> hi
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  not really :)
[02:36] <jokeem> serengeti:  yes
[02:36] <jrib> SolarisBoy, evon, gent00: #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about other operating systems or anything non-support really. This channel is busy enough as it is
[02:36] <jokeem> serengeti:  when it finished loading, it goes all distorted.
[02:36] <SolarisBoy> thats nice
[02:37] <SolarisBoy> ill brb
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  thats just how version #s work.  They pused grub2 in whild it was still considerd beta
[02:37] <arghh2d2> jrub, lol
[02:37] <sabgenton> Dr_willis do you think grub2 could install  ubuntu server iso's
[02:37] <evon> drknzz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m27a7978e
[02:37] <serengeti> jokeem, when the screen freezes, can you use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to the text console?
[02:37] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: are you able to test different router configs without messing anything else up too badly?
[02:37] <sabgenton> non live cd isos
[02:37] <evon> jrib: sorry about that man
[02:37] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: I'm trying what you told me about yesterday
[02:37] <gent00> this channel has too restricted rules.
[02:37] <jokeem> serengeti:  never tryed..
[02:37] <sabgenton> grub2 able to boot isos
[02:37] <gent00> if u say u support freedom then give more freedom to users
[02:37] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: I have too much connected to it in use. And this is how I want it set up. So I need to get the netbook working with wep 128bit hidden
[02:38] <serengeti> jokeem, and what Radeon is it, by the way/
[02:38] <pfred1> gent00 you are free to start your own channel
[02:38] <noshelter> I currently have nvidia-glx.185 installed, and i tried the latest version of the drivers from the nvidia site, but the temp on my GPU is always around 66 when idle and the fan is always running, any hints on how to fix this?
[02:38] <jokeem> i dont know. mkquist__  what was it :D
[02:38] <oorah> i'm having trouble installing onto my ps3 here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBNmM1I_XM
[02:39] <devilwithaheart> eeepwifi: did you try deleting the network profile and recreating it. It sometimes work for me.
[02:39] <Drknzz> evon: i think you will need to read more on that webpage, i have no idea what could ever be wrong, sorry
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> !ps3 | oorah
[02:39] <serengeti> jokeem, so was it like that from the beginning or maybe you have installed some new drivers?
[02:39] <eeepcwifi> devilwithaheart: yes I've done it several times cus I thoguht I was typing something wrong until I tested teh settigns on my iphone and it worked.
[02:39] <rip> How does one install nouveau driver (for nvdia video cards) on Ubuntu?  I assume it involves installing 'xserver-xorg-video-nouveau', but then what do I do?
[02:39] <evon> drknzz: are you really giving up on me? :-( there are no more packages i have to install?
[02:39] <pfred1> is there any way I can downgrade the version of the gimp shipped with Ubuntu 9.10 to a useful version?
[02:39] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: I was just going to have you un-hide it and see if it will connect unhidden. Have you filed a bug report?
[02:40] <noshelter> rip: search for the nvidia-glx package, or go to the nvidia website
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !pin | pfred1
[02:40] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: I can try unhiding it.. sec...
[02:40] <Drknzz> evon: im sleepy now, gotta go bed, and, as  far as i can go undersgtanding the problem, it might be the developers fault this time :S
[02:40] <rip> noshelter: I don't want to install Nvidia's proprietary drivers though
[02:40] <jokeem> serengeti:  well i was in the recovery for ubuntu, and I press fix graphic errors.
[02:41] <rip> I prefer free drivers
[02:41] <noshelter> rip: sorry, not sure of a free version of them
[02:41] <Drknzz> evon: i have to go university tomorrow :p
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> rip:  often i find to get all teh features -  You have to use the drivers from nvidia
[02:41] <jph_> jrub  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362322/
[02:41] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: it works with my network broadcasting
[02:41] <jolaren> How do I activate sound in rdesktop? and is it possible to multi client with rdesktop?
[02:41] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: so the issue is that its hidden.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> rip:  on some box's i cant even get proper resolutions without the nvidia drivers installed.
[02:42] <evon> drknzz: i hear you. I have work in the morning.
[02:42] <devilwithaheart> eeepcwifi: what encription you use?
[02:42] <evon> drknzz: thanks though. I will keep searching.
[02:42] <mkquist__> hey whats happens in koala when you remove the xorg.conf and reboot?
[02:42] <eeepcwifi> devilwithaheart: wep 128
[02:42] <oorah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBNmM1I_XM here is the error i'm getting trying to install Ubuntu onto my ps3
[02:42] <jolaren> How do I activate sound in rdesktop? and is it possible to multi client with rdesktop?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> mkquist__:  it uses the default autoconfiguring feature of X.
[02:42] <rip> Dr_Willis: I'm not that tempted to get all the features... I only want to get suspend (sleep) working on a laptop... and the nouveau free driver seems to be able to sleep my laptop since it is intstalled by default on Fedora... so that's why i'm asking how one installs nouveau on Ubuntu...
[02:42] <mkquist__> will it crash or remake?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> rip:  never tried them. so no idea
[02:43] <frogzoo> mkquist__: it won't remake - X will fail to start
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> mkquist__:  neither.. it AUTOCONFIGURES.
[02:43] <rip> Dr_Willis: I can get the laptops full resolution with the nouveau driver on Fedora
[02:43] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: are you sure that you had the network ID in exactly right?
[02:43] <mkquist__> Dr_Willis: so what if jokeem just removes his xorg.conf... so will it reconfigure?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> mkquist__:  it autoconfigures as needed upon X startup. In theory.
[02:43] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: yes its 4 letters not easy to mess up :)
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> mkquist__:  it does not make a xorg.conf
[02:43] <mkquist__> Dr_Willis: so its almost like dpkg-reconfigure-xserver?
[02:43] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: its shat.. :) so i know i typed it right
[02:44] <mkquist__> lets find out... hmm
[02:44] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: not sure if you saw but it did connect when it was broadcasting.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> mkquist__:  i have severla machines with no xorg.conf - some need it for special features/settings
[02:44] <pfred1> Dr_Willis pinning seems useful if you have things that work
[02:44] <oorah> can anyone help me with ps3 errors?
[02:45] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: Yeah, I saw that... hmm...
[02:45] <jolaren> Anyone know of a good rdesktop client? gnome-rdesktop isnt so good
[02:45] <RainbowEyes> um... does anybody know if there's a good Microsoft Project equivalent for Ubuntu? >.>
[02:45] <jrib> jph_: "jrib" instead of "jrub" if you want me to get a highlight :)
[02:45] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: im going to hide it and try again.
[02:45] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: alright
[02:45] <jph_> sorrt typo
[02:46] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: so to make sure I'm doing it right.. i just go to the wifi manager and chose connect to hidden wireless network or should I create new wireless network?
[02:46] <jrib> jph_: is your internet working otherwise?
[02:46] <sabgenton> dr_willis
[02:46] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: nope, connect to hidden is right
[02:46] <mkquist__> jokeem: still here?
[02:46] <jokeem> is there such thing as a system restore for ubuntu?
[02:46] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: ok brb
[02:46] <jokeem> mkquist__:  yes
[02:46] <oorah> here's the errors i'm getting on my ps3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBNmM1I_XM
[02:46] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: I can't get ubuntu-server  to see the cdrom drive when it boots
[02:46] <jph_> jrib yes it works, I am SSHed in to that box and also have terminal access to the back via hardwired KVM
[02:46] <ChrisMorgan> I installed GSmartControl, it installed a launcher which triggers su-to-root -X -c gsmartcontrol -- but su-to-root is in the package `menu` which wasn't installed.  Does its dependency list need updating?
[02:47] <mkquist__> sabgenton: hes gone i think
[02:47] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[02:47] <sabgenton> k
[02:47] <sabgenton> thx
[02:47] <mkquist__> jokeem: back in live cd?
[02:47] <jph_> jrib if you need me to test the internet on that box let me know how you would like me to
[02:47] <jrib> jph_: nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com    works ok?
[02:47] <jokeem> yes
[02:47] <oorah> assuming almost nobody installs Linux onto a ps3 or knows anything about ppc?
[02:47] <twb> When booting the live CD, is there a way to stop gdm (and thus X) from starting?
[02:48] <macman_> hey all .. i have a detached screen .. how can i view what is going on without re-attaching to it ?
[02:48] <jolaren> No rdesktop gui avaiable? Gosh
[02:48] <jetpack> Hey guys, I am trying to configure a gamepad with joy2key (yes the pad is supported) but am having trouble mapping it to my media keys. Anyone have any ideas? More info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/362325/
[02:48] <devilwithaheart> macman_: you can ssh into it.
[02:48] <jph_> jrib it failed
[02:48] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: same thing.. it just keeps spinning and then prompts me to enter it again..
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/nslookup-flaws.html
[02:49] <jrib> jph_: it's a dns issue then
[02:49] <macman_> thanks
[02:49] <jph_> jrib connection timed out
[02:49] <RainbowEyes> does anybody know if there's a good Microsoft Project equivalent for Ubuntu? X:
[02:49] <Bogo> can anyone help me with a server problem...i can't seem to fix it... :(
[02:49] <jrib> jph_: I don't really know too much about this, but what is in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:49] <frogzoo> RainbowEyes: there's Task Juggler, and there's Project
[02:49] <Bogo> more exactly a mail server problem...
[02:49] <jetpack> eeepcwifi: Huh... No idea. I would file a bug report, and then just un-hide it for now if you need it. It is probably a bug that is unique to your hardware.
[02:49] <RainbowEyes> okay, thanks frogzoo, I'll look it up ^^
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> and Planner RainbowEyes
[02:50] <mkquist__> jokeem: how about you open a terminal and type - sudo mv /etc/xorg.conf /etc/xorg.conf.old
[02:50] <jeffreyf> oorah, if you want to try, there are several tutorials on the internet on how to install Ubuntu or other distro onto the PS3.  You need the PowerPC (mac) version as the processor is a power series
[02:50] <eeepcwifi> jetpack: I'll do that. Thanks for the help
[02:50] <mkquist__> jokeem: and try a reboot, doesnt work come back in live cd
[02:50] <RainbowEyes> SolarisBoy: okay, I'll check that out too :)
[02:50] <jokeem> mkquist__:  will do
[02:50] <serengeti> jokeem: so you got the distortion for no apparent reason and then went to recovery and clicked Fix graphics errors?
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> resolv.conf defines which dns servers you use amongst other things
[02:50] <jetpack> Hey guys, I am trying to configure a gamepad with joy2key but am having trouble mapping it to my media keys. Anyone have any ideas? More info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/362325/
[02:50] <jokeem> serengeti: other way arounf
[02:51] <jokeem> around*
[02:51] <frogzoo> RainbowEyes: s/Planner/Project
[02:51] <serengeti> mquist__: it won't work if he's on livecd, will it?
[02:51] <SolarisBoy> it also defines a search pattern to be appended to the end of hostnames like mydomain.net
[02:51] <jph_> jrib before we get to that let me run this thought by you, we are behind firewalls here I have access to modify them... that server has the following and only the following ports opened up on it 22,80,433,53    could this be the root of my problem?
[02:51] <serengeti> mquist__: I mean it's not /etc/foo but /media/????/foo
[02:51] <jokeem> mkquist__: mv: cannot stat `/etc/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[02:51] <RainbowEyes> frogzoo: so you meant Planner?
[02:52] <framelinux> Hello!
[02:52] <oorah> jeffreyf, i know that, however the tutorials say nothing about the error messages i get. i've checked several of them for weeks
[02:52] <eeepcwifi> bogo: whats your server problem?
[02:52] <mkquist__> jokeem: srry sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[02:52] <eeepcwifi> i may not be great with desktop stuff but I do a lot of linux server work
[02:52] <mkquist__> jokeem: missed the X11 part... oops
[02:53] <jokeem> ok
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> apt-cache show planner
[02:53] <mkquist__> serengeti: thats right
[02:53] <mkquist__> jokeem: you have to be doing this on your old install... right
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> unless thats an virtual package or something
[02:53] <frogzoo> Task Juggler > Planner
[02:53] <mkquist__> serengeti: just assumed he knew that ... bad assumption
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> ahh i see
[02:53] <jokeem> mkquist__: what u mean? in the recvoer
[02:53] <jrib> jph_: hmm.  Well apt-get either uses http or ftp (looks like that should be ok). As for the dns lookups, I don't know what you need to do firewall-wise if anything
[02:53] <jokeem> recovery*
[02:53] <framelinux> help!, how to install xubuntu on pentium III 128 RAM and 333 Mhz? no alternate cd
[02:54] <Bogo> right...so...i have installed ubuntu server 9.04 on a server machine...installed and configured the mail server (following this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.10-ispconfig-3), but when i'm trying to access my email account on the server, outlook can't find the serverm neither thunderbird. i have installed ispconfig and tried to configure and run roundcube.
[02:54] <mkquist__> jokeem: sorry, I should have mentioned that all those commands are to be run on you hard drive ubuntu install, cant just do it in live cd
[02:54] <serengeti> jokeem, wait a sec. do you see your hard drive partitions on the livecd desktop?
[02:54] <Bogo> internet connection is working...
[02:54] <mkquist__> jokeem: wont do anything there
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> you need to try resolving whatever apt is trying to resolve against your dns server would be likely one of the first steps if you feel its dns related
[02:54] <ta> how reliable is virtualbox_
[02:54] <jeffreyf> oorah    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> like dig <domain> @<dns server>
[02:54] <mkquist__> jokeem: means is you have to mount your ubuntu installation and cd to it and then run those commands
[02:54] <jokeem> mkquist__: OHHHHHHHH. serengeti  yes
[02:55] <ta> !virtualbox
[02:55] <jokeem> mkquist__: im sorry, i have no clue how to..
[02:55] <serengeti> jokeem: so find the partition that has a folder named "etc" in it
[02:55] <Shwack> http://www.uglyduxrecords.com
[02:55] <jetpack> I am trying to configure a gamepad with joy2key but am having trouble mapping it to my media keys. Anyone have any ideas? More info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/362325/
[02:55] <jrib> SolarisBoy: nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com failed for jph_ with connection timed out
[02:55] <Shwack> oh crap...sorry wrong room to ctrl v in :( sorry
[02:55] <mkquist__> jokeem: know how to mount you ubuntu install?  the hard drive one?
[02:55] <serengeti> jokeem: and browse to etc/X11
[02:55] <jokeem> serengeti:  YEP
[02:55] <mkquist__> jokeem: do that
[02:55] <jph_> jrib ok well where would you like to start as far and finding the problem...
[02:55] <jokeem> no  i dont
[02:55] <CondorDelta> hola a todos
[02:55] <mkquist__> jokeem: how did you look at it before?
[02:55] <jokeem> just look for the folder?
[02:56] <CondorDelta> alguien que hable español ?
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> jrib: against the dns server in his resolv.conf? or the one being used by his router?
[02:56] <jokeem> thats what mount means?
[02:56] <Bogo> solarisboy: how am i supposed to do that? :( i'm kind of a noob @ servers :(
[02:56] <jokeem> cause i can do that
[02:56] <mkquist__> jokeem: can you browse you ubuntu install?
[02:56] <serengeti> jokeem: when you have found "etc", open it, then go to "X11"
[02:56] <jrib> @mark Shwack
[02:56] <dthmnk> exit
[02:56] <jokeem> ok vguyd
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> with that command 'dig us.archive.ubuntu.com @<mydnsserver>'
[02:56] <serengeti> jokeem: and in "X11" find a file "xorg.conf" and delete it
[02:56] <jokeem> guys*
[02:57] <jetpack> CondorDelta: Si. Solamente un poco. Por Que?
[02:57] <Bogo> run as root i presume...
 being the one in question,, alternatively you can try 4.2.2.2 and see if you can query verizon pub for the domain in question
[02:57] <mkquist__> jokeem: what hes saying
[02:57] <iflema> ChrisMorgan m8 backup anything important hey..... does not sound good.... you need to check for bad blocks...
[02:57] <jolaren> Is it possible to keep the user logged in with rdesktop? When I login to my win7 computer I get logged out from the mainscreen
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> no you dont need to be root to run dig
[02:57] <jokeem> ok i did that
[02:57] <jrib> jph_: pastebin /etc/resolv.conf is a good start
[02:57] <jokeem> but permission denied lol.
[02:57] <CondorDelta> hola jetpack
[02:57] <jph_> jrib ok will do
[02:57] <jrib> SolarisBoy: nslookup suse whatever is in /etc/resolv.conf afaik
[02:57] <CondorDelta> tengo un problema con mi ubuntu
[02:57] <CondorDelta> soy nuevo en linux
[02:57] <mkquist__> serengeti: hell have to sudo to do it
[02:57] <jrib> uses even
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> yes
[02:57] <jetpack> CondorDelta: Jaja. Hola.
[02:57] <Shwack> jrib what's up?
[02:57] <framelinux> jetpack
[02:57] <puff> The firefox package is a meta-package that installs the latest version of firefox in the repos. How do I see the latest version in the repos?
[02:58] <jrib> Shwack: nothing, ignore me
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> jrib: which is why he should direct it not to
[02:58] <framelinux> yo hablo español XD
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> with @
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> and see if he is able to resolve there
[02:58] <CondorDelta> hola fremalinux
[02:58] <jetpack> framelinux: yes?
[02:58] <Shwack> jrib: k
[02:58] <CondorDelta> necesito ayuda
[02:58] <jrib> SolarisBoy: ok, good idea
[02:58] <framelinux> yo pensaba que solo se hablaba ingles aca XDDD
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> dig does the same as well
[02:58] <mkquist__> jokeem: open a terminal
[02:58] <jokeem> yea
[02:58] <framelinux> dime Condor Delta
[02:58] <CondorDelta> jaja me estaba temiendo lo mismo
[02:58] <jrib> !es | CondorDelta
[02:58] <serengeti> mkquist__: haven't used ubuntu livecd in a while ;)
[02:58] <jph_> jrib no need to pastbin it is as follows: first line 'search us'  second line 'nameserver 10.12.1.1'
[02:59] <CondorDelta> lo que sucede es que por casualidad borre el icono de network manager
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> can you ping that name server?
[02:59] <CondorDelta> y no puedo ver el listado de mis redes
[02:59] <jetpack> CondorDelta: Que tipo de ayuda?
[02:59] <framelinux> es facil
[02:59] <evon> i noticed that i have linux headers installed that are different from my current kernel version, can this cause problems for me if i am trying to compile a new kernel module?
[02:59] <framelinux> haces click derecho en el panel
[02:59] <jokeem> mkquist__:  next?
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> and if you can next can you 'dig us.archive.ubuntu.com @us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[02:59] <jph_> SolarisBoy was that directed at me?
[02:59] <framelinux> haces click en añadir al panel..
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> yes it was
[02:59] <mkquist__> jokeem: gksudo nautilus
[02:59] <CondorDelta> ya lo hice, pero no aparece la opcion de network manager
[02:59] <CondorDelta> =(
[02:59] <jrib> framelinux, CondorDelta: english only here please.  #ubuntu-es for spanish
[02:59] <framelinux> que version usas?
[03:00] <mkquist__> jokeem: then goto your hard drive ubuntu install and look in /etc/X11 for xorg.conf and rename it to xorg.conf.old
[03:00] <jph_> sorry I have missed most of what you said... multi tasking and only looking at highlighted stuff, what do you need me to do?
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> lol ok
[03:00] <jokeem> ok
[03:00] <Bogo> i can't understand a thing here :( who's taking to who?! :((
[03:00] <framelinux> jrib, en ubuntu-es parece un chat de messenger, no hay nadie
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> one ping that ip address two 'dig us.archive.ubuntu.com @<ipaddress>'
[03:00] <jrib> Bogo: just read the red/highlight stuff :)
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> if one fails there is you answer
[03:01] <jph_> SolarisBoy ok will do
[03:01] <jokeem> when gksudo i cant see my other partition....
[03:01] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[03:01] <jrib> framelinux: 50 people there
[03:01] <serengeti> Bogo: everybody's talking to everybody! It's crazy but fun!
[03:01] <Bogo> using chatzilla...there's no red/highlight stuff
[03:01] <CondorDelta> jrib sorry, i dont speack inglish. i am new user in ubuntu
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> i use irssi
[03:01] <CondorDelta> and new user and irc
[03:01] <Bogo> i can see that serengeti
[03:01] <Bogo> :))
[03:02] <Atttelecom> Hello.
[03:02] <Bogo> still..who can help me with my ubuntu mail server issues? :((
[03:02] <framelinux> CondorDelta veni a ubuntu-es
[03:02] <mkquist__> jokeem: u doin ok?
[03:02] <framelinux> es mejor
[03:02] <CondorDelta> como entro a ubuntu-es
[03:02] <CondorDelta> ??
[03:02] <jetpack> CondorDelta: type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:02] <Atttelecom> I`m here to tell you the opinion of our corporation that we see no future in mobile Linux
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> how did that work out for you jph_ ?
[03:02] <serengeti> Bogo: but seriously, if someone should wish to address you they would generally start their message with "Bogo:" ;)
[03:02] <jokeem> mkquist__:  nah, i gksudo'ed but i cant see my ubuntu install...
[03:02] <Atttelecom> Especially for Ubuntu Mobile
[03:03] <vomjom> what happened to ctrl alt + and ctrl alt - in X?
[03:03] <vomjom> is there an equivalent way to zoom in now?
[03:03] <jrib> Atttelecom: this is a channel for community support, it's not really the right place for that
[03:03] <songer> CondorDelta: como te conectas?
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> how about successful ventures like the android?
[03:03] <mkquist__> jokeem: ok then just minimize that, click on places and goto/computer
[03:03] <Atttelecom> jrib u are being nasty
[03:03] <Bogo> serengeti: good point... :( i guess in this case there's no one that can help me :(
[03:03] <Atttelecom> android is getting less and less popularity
[03:03] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok
[03:03]  * jrib sighs
[03:03] <scunizi> Atttelecom: no he's not.. go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <CondorDelta> xchat irc, acabo de instalarlo
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> Bogo: whats your mail issue?
[03:03] <Bogo> i have installed ubuntu server 9.04 on a server machine...installed and configured the mail server (following this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.10-ispconfig-3), but when i'm trying to access my email account on the server, outlook can't find the serverm neither thunderbird. i have installed ispconfig and tried to configure and run roundcube.
[03:03] <mkquist__> jokeem: then click on ur ubuntu hard drive install
[03:03] <EastDallas> Bogo: do you have dns configured properly?
[03:04] <jokeem> mkquist__:  yes
[03:04] <mkquist__> jokeem: look for etc
[03:04] <uniqdom> CondorDelta, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[03:04] <Bogo> dns is actually provided by freezone.com
[03:04] <jokeem> it wont let me delete it but
[03:04] <mkquist__> jokeem: you can just type e and itll find it...
[03:04] <mkquist__> jokeem: i know
[03:04]  * iflema :|
[03:04] <Bogo> zoneedit.com sorry :D
[03:04] <mkquist__> then goto X11
[03:04] <jokeem> mkquist__:  okk
[03:04] <David664> i have a question about Wine
[03:04] <jph_> SolarisBoy jrib  I did the following and got the following.. sorry didn't understand the syntax at first..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362332/
[03:04] <David664> is the latest wine 1.1?
[03:04] <framelinux> ahhh
[03:05] <jokeem> mkquist__: im there.
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> no servers could be reached
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> no servers could be reached
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> oops sorry
[03:05] <FloodBot1> SolarisBoy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <framelinux> condordelta que aIRC usas?
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> smh
[03:05] <frogzoo> wine has a 1.x release??
[03:05] <mkquist__> jokeem: hmm i cant delete it huh?
[03:05] <steven__1> quit
[03:05] <steven__1> \quit
[03:05] <jokeem> mkquist__:  no permission..
[03:05] <Shwack> rofl
[03:05] <oorah> how do i remove a broken link that i can't get off my desktop?
[03:05] <frogzoo> zomg, they released wine
[03:05] <mkquist__> jokeem: im doing the same on other machine to walk you through... ok np
[03:05] <serengeti> jokeem: you can right-click the file it and go to Properties
[03:05] <David664> i have ver 1.0.1
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> you need a space between the @10.12.1.1 and the domain name
[03:06] <jokeem> ok ok
[03:06] <CondorDelta> Framelinux estoy con Xchat
[03:06] <jph_> SolarisBoy what do you mean by that
[03:06] <jetpack> I am trying to configure a gamepad with joy2key but am having trouble mapping it to my media keys. Any ideas? More info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/362325/
[03:06] <serengeti> jokeem: then select the text under Location: and copy it to the clipboard
[03:06] <CondorDelta> el ke da por defecto ubuntu
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> its trying to query us.archive.ubuntu.com@10.12.1.1 which isn't a valid address
[03:06] <serengeti> jokeem: ctrl+c
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> do the command like this 1. ping 10.12.1.1
[03:06] <mkquist__> jokeem: at least that got it mounted... open a terminal and type cd /media
[03:06] <Bogo> SolarisBoy: dns is provided by zoneedit.com forwarding from zoneedit is working because i can access the server via putty and ports 80, 8080 & 443...but that mail accounts wont work
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> actually ping -c 4 10.12.1.1
[03:06] <mkquist__> jokeem: what do you see?
[03:07] <SolarisBoy> thethen if you get a reply do this 'dig us.archive.ubuntu.com @10.12.1.1'
[03:07] <jph_> SolarisBoy destination port unreachable
[03:07] <serengeti> jokeem: then in the terminal write rm <now click Edit-Paste>/xorg.conf
[03:07] <David664> on wine could i install programs like in windows? i mean the install wizard or does it have to be a simple .exe file???
[03:07] <SolarisBoy> jph_: then dns isn't listening there
[03:07] <jokeem> mkquist__:  sorry
[03:07] <SolarisBoy> on port 53 atleast
[03:07] <serengeti> jokeem: I mean sudo  rm <now click Edit-Paste>/xorg.conf
[03:07] <jokeem> sd
[03:07] <jokeem> serengeti:  ok
[03:08] <jph_> SolarisBoy ok what do i do then to get it listening.. or do i have to jump over to the smoothwall room and chat there
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> jph_: can you ping 91.189.88.45
[03:08] <EastDallas> David664: you install like windows
[03:08] <serengeti> mkquist__: sorry just noticed we were both giving jokeem similar directions :D
[03:08] <IdleOne> David664: #winehq can help.
[03:08] <jokeem> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  I mean sudo  rm </media/disk/etc/X11>/xorg.conf  - permission denied/
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> jph_: that IP address is a private one,, i assume its on your network behind a firewall?
[03:08] <David664> is wine ok or yall recomend something ealse?
[03:08] <jph_> SolarisBoy yes good ping
[03:08] <serengeti> jokeem: try without the < >
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> ok
[03:08] <mkquist__> serengeti: np
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> so you are able to ping the ip of that domain but your resolving isn't working
[03:08] <serengeti>  sudo  rm /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <mkquist__> serengeti: you got him in command line?
[03:09] <EastDallas> David664: VMware is better, but wine works for a lot.  What are you trying to install?
[03:09] <SolarisBoy> what is the IP address of your router?
[03:09] <mkquist__> serengeti: i see you do.. lol
[03:09] <David664> ;\
[03:09] <jokeem> wow it worked?
[03:09] <mkquist__> serengeti: you do it...
[03:09] <mkquist__> jokeem: probably
[03:09] <mkquist__> jokeem: type ls
[03:09] <hlfshell> has there been any reported problem with Eclipse 3.4 not working with any recent ubuntu updates? MY eclipse just stopped working completely - won't load up, and the few times it does buttons on menus won't respond.
[03:09] <mkquist__> jokeem: should be gone
[03:09] <CondorDelta> gracias uniqdom
[03:09] <jokeem> it returned an empty line no errors?
[03:09] <Shwack> I have a problem with Remote Desktop Viewing and Ubuntu - When I use the provided server, any client comes up with a static screen, no updates.  When I use a different server, like TightVNC's server for example, it works.
[03:09] <jetpack> I am trying to configure a gamepad as a media remote but am having trouble mapping it to my media keys. Any ideas? More info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/362325/
[03:09] <jph_> SolarisBoy on that NIC it is 10.12.1.1 or do you mean to my modem
[03:09] <Bogo> solarisboy: here's the output ------------
[03:10] <Bogo> root@mail:/home/bogdan# dig us.archive.ubuntu.com @10.12.1.1
[03:10] <Bogo> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P2 <<>> us.archive.ubuntu.com @10.12.1.1
[03:10] <serengeti> jokeem: great, you can now try to boot and if it's still distorted... come back :P
[03:10] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ls.. and?
[03:10] <Bogo> ;; global options: +cmd
[03:10] <Bogo> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[03:10] <FloodBot1> Bogo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <EastDallas> hlfshell: I've had a ton of issues with eclipse since upgrading to Karmic
[03:10] <jokeem> serengeti: lol kk
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> ahh its a modem...
[03:10] <mkquist__> jokeem: should be gone.. no?
[03:10] <jokeem> brb
[03:10] <mkquist__> jokeem: the one he had you remove
[03:10] <David664> EastDallas im trying to install a video conference program
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> is that 'modem' doing any DNS services for you? or are you not aware?
[03:10] <hlfshell> me too EastDallas - as long as its not just me. Have you done anything to fix it?
[03:10] <jph_> SolarisBoy cable
[03:10] <jokeem> ill brb mkquist__
[03:10] <jokeem> see what happens..
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> if not you should be using an external public IP of the ISP provided to you
[03:10] <EastDallas> hlfshell: including the button issue you mention.
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> Bogo: need way more info
[03:11] <EastDallas> hlfshell: I downgraded to the version available in the repos
[03:11] <hlfshell> hmmm any ideas EastDallas on the fix? i was thinking about switching what java JDK i was using
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> what exactly is your error?
[03:11] <Bogo> solaris: no...the modem doesn't do that...ask me and i'll provide the info
[03:11] <jph_> SolarisBoy can I PM you
[03:11] <sharktooth> does anyone have a fix for pulse audio
[03:11] <hlfshell> :-/ i need an AVR MCU plug in not compatible with the 3.2 eclipse available in the repos though EastDallas
[03:11] <EastDallas> David664: I would try it with wine and see how it works.
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> sure im leaving work soon though =)
[03:11] <EastDallas> hlfshell: don't know what to tell you...
[03:12] <SolarisBoy> Bogo: what exact error are you getting when doing what task?
[03:12] <EastDallas> sharktooth: what's the problem?
[03:12] <hlfshell> :-/ thanks anyway EastDallas - at least i know im not alone
[03:12] <EastDallas> !audio | sharktooth
[03:13] <EastDallas> sharktooth: What problem are you having with Pulse Audio?
[03:13] <sharktooth> i have to killall pulseaudio&&force-reload pulse to activate audio
[03:13] <serengeti> hlfshell: I'm using eclipse galileo on openjdk and it works fine
[03:14] <elux> hey guys
[03:14] <serengeti> hlfshell: not from the repos though but the version from eclipse.org, I just unpacked it in my home dir
[03:14] <sharktooth> EastDallas:that is not the exact code but i have to do this everytime for audio. and scripting doens't work for automate
[03:14] <elux> how do i change the time zone for a ubuntu system?
[03:15] <sharktooth> EastDallas: i have no audio till i run a script
[03:15] <elux> i changed /etc/localtime with a file in the timezone share, it worked just fine, but then when i rebooted it switched back to UTC
[03:15] <EastDallas> sharktooth: looking....
[03:15] <mkquist__> elux: adminstration/time and date
[03:15] <elux> administartion... ?
[03:16] <elux> ohh this is ubuntu server
[03:16] <elux> no X
[03:16] <mkquist__> elux: sry
[03:16] <elux> np
[03:16] <mkquist__> elux: didnt know... lol
[03:16] <elux> yea i should have mentioned it
[03:17] <eeepcwifi> uggh.. Ok now I can't even report the bug cus its saying that network-manager-gnome isn't a genuine ubuntu package
[03:17] <jokeem> mkquist__:  no luck and ser
[03:17] <eeepcwifi> but its a default netbook remix install which I just downloaded from the frontpage of ubuntu.com
[03:17] <eeepcwifi> wtf?
[03:17] <EastDallas> elux: tzconfig
[03:17] <mkquist__> jokeem: still same?
[03:17] <jokeem> im on my windows pc now, so what ever u want me to try i can easily do.
[03:17] <jokeem> mkquist__:  yea
[03:17] <EastDallas> elux: or tzselect
[03:17] <sharktooth> EastDallas:brb emergency
[03:17] <elux> hrmm.. its saying tzconfig command is deprecated and to use tzdata
[03:18] <EastDallas> sharktooth: still looking for a solution...
[03:18] <mkquist__> jokeem: well, what were you backing up (or trying to before), maybe an install would be quicker...
[03:18] <EastDallas> elux try tzselect
[03:18] <serengeti> jokeem: so you can see that distorted screen on your linux box right now?
[03:18] <EastDallas> elux:  or try tzdata
[03:18] <jokeem> nah im back on the live CD
[03:18] <elux> hrmm.  okay, but if i reboot, it will go back to UTC
[03:19] <jokeem> but it was like    Ubuntu      Ubuntu     Ubuntu   - all distorted
[03:19] <EastDallas> elux: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[03:19] <jokeem> ill try and google a pic
[03:19] <hlfshell> EastDallas, here: http://wobiny.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/eclipse-mouse-click-problem-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[03:19] <nod32> hi Bill Gates.
[03:19] <EastDallas> elux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[03:19] <eeepcwifi> HELP!!  OS: Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix | Problem, Trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug <PID>. I used the PID for network-manager-gnome and its saying "The probme cannot be reported, this is not a genuine ubuntu package"
[03:19] <serengeti> jokeem: it might be a stupid question but is it a crt or lcd screen?
[03:20] <warpaint> hello all
[03:20] <jokeem> erm...... not sure tbh.
[03:20] <jokeem> just an accer notebook..
[03:20] <serengeti> jokeem: ah ok, it's an lcd ;)
[03:20] <elux> that is annoying... doesnt tell me how i can keep the setting on reboot
[03:20] <mkquist__> jokeem: lcd
[03:20] <mkquist__> tlol
[03:20] <serengeti> no worries
[03:20] <jokeem> lol :D
[03:21] <EastDallas> elux: did you try dpkg-reconfigure tzdata?
[03:22] <elux> EastDallas: yes it works. but what do i change to keep the setting between reboots
[03:22] <elux> i see /etc/timezone .. but im not sure what value to put in it
[03:22] <elux> ill try rebooting after using this reconfigure tzdata stuff
[03:22] <eeepcwifi> HELP!!  OS: Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix | Problem, Trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug <PID>. I used the PID for network-manager-gnome and its saying "The probme cannot be reported, this is not a genuine ubuntu package"
[03:22] <jokeem> what else can I try?
[03:23] <EastDallas> elux: is that how you changed it the first time, or have you tried rebooting since you ran the command i just gave you?
[03:23] <jokeem> a system restore would be nice :(
[03:23] <EastDallas> !repeat | eeepcwifi
[03:24] <rip> has anyone installed the nouveau driver for a computer w/ an nvidia video cards?  how does one do this?
[03:24] <eeepcwifi> :) well whats the repeat delay?
[03:24] <SolarisBoy> brb guys
[03:24] <malnek> could anyone here recommend a good newsreader for use with giganews and newzbin? (.nzb files)
[03:24] <nomasteryoda> pan
[03:24] <RainbowEyes> I have a minor issue: xchat won't beep on highlights or pm's, does anyone know how to fix that? it's already checked to beep in my settings
[03:25] <evon> can someone please help me build a kernel module
[03:25] <IdleOne> eeepcwifi: use ubuntu-bug network-manager-gnome
[03:25] <IdleOne> not the PID
[03:25] <eeepcwifi> idleOne: I tried that too
[03:25] <eeepcwifi> same response
[03:25] <Poul|Raider> anyone know where the List.cs is to be found, in mono project, wanted to check out the source code of it, but cant find it in system.collections.generic
[03:25] <IdleOne> the pid on your system is most certanly diffrent then on mine eeepcwifi
[03:26] <serengeti> jokeem: well, there are some things you might want to try, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble. Wouldn't a reinstall be quicker?
[03:26] <jokeem> yeah, but I need a lot of the stuff on there
[03:26] <jokeem> valuable info $$
[03:26] <eeepcwifi> IdleOne: it recognized that the PID was for network-manager-gnome cus it was in teh title of the error box.. so I tried just the program name and same response.. not genuine
[03:26] <jokeem> LOL
[03:26] <nomasteryoda> malnek, apt-get install pan
[03:26] <eeepcwifi> also the pid was suggested on the help pages for reporting a bug on ubuntu.com
[03:27] <evon> this is the error i am getting http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3b8b701d
[03:27] <serengeti> jokeem: can you browse to your home directory from the livecd?
[03:28] <jokeem> yeah, but theres a program called skipper that saved your passwords etc.. i need to run a abck from that
[03:28] <IdleOne> eeepcwifi: got me.
[03:28] <malnek> nomasteryoda, thanks :)
[03:28] <jokeem> serengeti:  maybe I could copy the FireFox folder.. some how?
[03:29] <mkquist__> jokeem: you could always do that
[03:29] <mkquist__> jokeem: do you have another hd?
[03:29] <jokeem> wheres the ff folder?
[03:29] <jokeem> nah, i has cds^^
[03:29] <eeepcwifi> I sometimes feel like I am cursed with this netbook.
[03:30] <malnek> jeez, its been too long since i used any sort of os other than win. How can i grep in top after firefox pid number?
[03:30] <mkquist__> jokeem: is the hd partitioned into more than one partition?
[03:30] <jokeem> mkquist__:  also, how do i see all the installed programs i have, so i can atleast remember the names of them all.
[03:30] <eeepcwifi> ps ax | grep -i firefox
[03:30] <jokeem> mkquist__:  believe not
[03:30] <jokeem> i have windows and ubnu
[03:30] <jokeem> ubuntu*
[03:30] <eeepcwifi> malnek: ps ax | grep -i firefox
[03:31] <malnek> eeepcwifi, thanks!
[03:31] <RainbowEyes> so, does anybody know why xchat won't beep even though it's set to beep in the alerts settings? didn't really find anything on the internet
[03:31] <mkquist__> serengeti: hows about he just removes and reinstalls the package xserver-xorg-video-radeon from the command line in recovery mode?
[03:31] <eeepcwifi> malnek: you can't run grep on top :( but you can use -p and the pid.. lol but you need the pid first
[03:32] <eeepcwifi> malnek: so use ps
[03:32] <EastDallas> Hey DugOut!
[03:32] <malnek> eeepcwifi, will remember that. Great tip thanks again
[03:32] <serengeti> mkquist__: do you know which radeon is it? maybe it's a newer one and he needs fglrx?
[03:32] <Hilikus> is there a way to know the size of a diff in svn between the working copy and HEAD?
[03:32] <eeepcwifi> malnek: np
[03:32] <mkquist__> serengeti: 3200
[03:33] <jokeem> mk mkquist__ can i make a backup off my installed programs on the live cd, then ill copy the home folder/desktop, then firefox
[03:33] <serengeti> mkquist__: well he needs fglrx ;)
[03:34] <serengeti> jokeem: do you know if your ubuntu install is 32 or 64 bit?
[03:34] <tLoFP> how can I make an .iso Image of a CD?
[03:34] <jokeem> serengeti:  32
[03:35] <jiohdi> tLoFP: dd if=cdromx of=whatever.iso
[03:35] <serengeti> jokeem: well if you want to try one more thing...
[03:35] <tLoFP> jiohdi: like dat... for real? no software to install?
[03:35] <jokeem> serengeti:  sure.
[03:35] <jiohdi> tLoFP: dd does it all :)
[03:36] <puff> Dang.
[03:36] <eeepcwifi> is 10 minutes enough time for repeating my help request?
[03:36] <puff> I'm trying to install the firefox daily build, but it failed.
[03:36] <serengeti> jokeem: you can go to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.25&lang=English
[03:36] <arghh2d2> tLoFP: you think thats neat, check out www.commandfu.com
[03:36] <serengeti> and download that driver
[03:37] <tLoFP> jiohdi it didn't find cdromx
[03:37] <jokeem> k
[03:37] <arghh2d2> tLoFP: www.commandlinefu.com
[03:37] <f1lt3r> Hey guys, how do I diff a certain number of lines?
[03:37] <f1lt3r> From terminal?
[03:37] <jiohdi> tLoFP: you have to sub cdromx for your actual location
[03:37] <jokeem> serengeti:  LOL, i just typed k and pressed enter on my laptop... im so stressed atm
[03:37] <jiohdi> tLoFP: it was not meant to be literal
[03:37] <tLoFP> jiohdi: I have cdrom and cdrom0 both seem to access the disk, whats the diff?
[03:37] <jiohdi> tLoFP: it could be something like /media/cdrom0
[03:37] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d4ee1e644
[03:38] <RainbowEyes> um... does anybody know why xchat's not giving me a beep on highlights or pm's even though I set it to do so in the alerts settings?... *one last try for now >_>*
[03:38] <tLoFP> jiohdi: yea I have /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0 but they both direct me to the contents of the cd
[03:38] <mkquist__> serengeti: then hell have to boot to recovery and install from cl
[03:38] <jiohdi> tLoFP: than it likely does not matter which you use
[03:38] <mkquist__> jokeem: no you cannot backup 'onto' the live cd
[03:38] <puff> Anyone?  Bueler?
[03:38] <puff> sigh.
[03:38] <mkquist__> jokeem: you can burn it to a cd if you have a burner
[03:38] <jokeem> mkquist__:  from , not to.
[03:39] <tLoFP> jiohdi: dd: reading `/media/cdrom': Is a directory
[03:39] <eeepcwifi> HELP!!  OS: Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix | Problem, Trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug <PID>. I used the PID for network-manager-gnome and its saying "The probme cannot be reported, this is not a genuine ubuntu package"
[03:39] <tLoFP> no .iso
[03:39] <serengeti> mkquist__: maybe chroot would work?
[03:39] <mkquist__> jokeem: i thought you wanted to back up your install?
[03:39] <tLoFP> jiohdi: cdrom0 does the same
[03:39] <jokeem> yeah i did
[03:39] <jiohdi> tLoFP: dd turns the contents into an iso file
[03:39] <jokeem> serengeti:  whats chroot?
[03:39] <mkquist__> serengeti: chroot to what?
[03:39] <eeepcwifi> I guess the real problem is that ubuntu-bug doesn't see network-manager-gnome as a genuine package
[03:39] <ToastedPine> could be because you don't have a sound file xchat is pointed to
[03:40] <mkquist__> serengeti: to do what rather?
[03:40] <tLoFP> jiohdi: no... you .... you can't make .iso that fast
[03:40] <tLoFP> its... its not possible... is it ?
[03:40] <jiohdi> tLoFP: you can I have done it
[03:40] <tLoFP> jiohdi: I mean it was instant
[03:40] <mkquist__> jokeem: whats the output of - lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:41] <EastDallas> puff: did you try installing the two packages mentioned in the error?
[03:41] <jiohdi> tLoFP: check the size of the file
[03:41] <tLoFP> jiohdi: lol no the iso is 0 bytes, something wrong
[03:41] <serengeti> mkquist__: well it makes programs think they live in a different filesystem, in a way
[03:41] <serengeti> mkquist__: so you can run apt-get and stuff from the live cd, but it works on your hard drive install
[03:42] <jokeem> mkquist__:  01.05.0 VGA compatiable controller
[03:42] <mkquist__> serengeti: to install gfx driver?
[03:42] <jiohdi> tLoFP: check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[03:42] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ATI TECH RS780M radesen HD 3200 graphics.. etc
[03:42] <EastDallas> puff: did you try installing the two packages mentioned in the error?
[03:42] <jiohdi> tLoFP: I may have left out something
[03:42] <mkquist__> anyone else wanna comment on that?
[03:42] <ToastedPine> Hmm, anyone have experience with running an existing partition of ubuntu as a guest in virtualbox? It's on the same HD, and I'm wondering if I'm doing potentially unholy things to it by doing so.
[03:42] <serengeti> mkquist__: I have never tried it :p
[03:43] <mkquist__> jokeem: and then glxinfo |grep vendor
[03:43] <serengeti> mkquist__: in theory, nothing can go wrong :)
[03:43] <jokeem> unkown chip id. cant guess.
[03:43] <eeepcwifi> :)
[03:43] <arghh2d2> ToastedPine: thats not how it works
[03:44] <mkquist__> serengeti: you get to walk him thru that one... =p
[03:44] <ToastedPine> arghh2d2: not how what works?
[03:45] <serengeti> jokeem: how's the download going, by the way?
[03:45] <hiexpo> wow still as busy as ever in here
[03:45] <jokeem> im putting it on a usb now
[03:45] <serengeti> jokeem: that driver I've linked to
[03:45] <serengeti> jokeem, you don't need to
[03:45] <puff> EastDallas: Well, tried that and hten tried apt-get install firefox again, now when I start firefox I get a popup that says History Tree Extension - Overlay Initialization Error.
[03:45] <jokeem> serengeti:  yes, i do.. if i downlaoded it on my PC lol
[03:46] <serengeti> jokeem: I see ;)
[03:46] <dj_segfault> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10.  Can't find the gnome applet that lets me adjust the volume and open the mixer.  Anyone know where that went?
[03:46] <hiexpo> top right had corner
[03:46] <jokeem> serengeti: installing now...
[03:46] <serengeti> jokeem: how are you installing it?
[03:47] <serengeti> jokeem: on the livecd?
[03:47] <jokeem> serengeti:  yes
[03:47] <serengeti> jokeem: then stop ;)
[03:47] <jokeem> serengeti:  i double click, run in terminal..
[03:47] <jokeem> serengeti:  lol kk
[03:47] <serengeti> jokeem: it won't work
[03:47] <jokeem> serengeti:  i fgured
[03:47] <dj_segfault> hiexpo: If that was to me, I know where it's *SUPPOSED* to be.  But it isn't there, and when I click on add applet, there's nothing about sound/audio/volume control there
[03:48] <serengeti> jokeem: can you copy it to your home directory on the hard drive?
[03:48] <hiexpo> let me look what its actually called one sec
[03:48] <serengeti> jokeem: the one that has all your documents and stuff in it
[03:49] <jokeem> permission denied...
[03:49] <serengeti> jokeem: ok
[03:49] <jokeem> :(
[03:49] <andydbzee> lol
[03:49] <jokeem> im gonna smash it soon :(
[03:49] <serengeti> jokeem: what's the name of your pendrive on the desktop?
[03:49] <jokeem> Lexar
[03:50] <andydbzee> whats the terminal command to get rid of the raccoon in my ceiling?
[03:50] <serengeti> jokeem: and that driver file is just there, I mean it's not in a subdirectory or anything?
[03:50] <Flare-Laptop> andydbzee: spam?
[03:50] <mkquist__> serengeti: you gonna have him install the fglrx driver?
[03:50] <tLoFP> jiohdi: I did through the GUI, it seems to be working on it now
[03:51] <dj_segfault> andydbzee: smite
[03:51] <jokeem> serengeti:  just there
[03:51] <andydbzee> lol
[03:51] <hiexpo> go into synaptic and type sound and see whats check in yhe list
[03:51] <mkquist__> andydbzee: sudo rm -rf racoon_in_ceiling?
[03:51] <Flare-Laptop> !lol | andydbzee
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[03:51] <serengeti> mkquist__: daredevil I am :] but it's easy to do nowadays.
[03:52] <jokeem> serengeti:   i tell you what, help me backup ff, and i reinstall the crap ;)
[03:52] <dj_segfault> hiexpo: There's about four pages of matches
[03:52] <Flare-Laptop> skeelol: Please don't spam
[03:52] <mkquist__> jokeem: im thinking you still could edit you xorg.conf - i tossed up a pastebin, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf(tab to finish)   and replace the device section with the pastebin
[03:53] <jph_> If I want to prevent apache from starting on boot where do i go to change that
[03:53] <serengeti> jokeem: that's easy: go to your home dir on the hard drive and click View - Show hidden files
[03:53] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok..
[03:53] <hiexpo> ok let me check one other thing
[03:53] <mkquist__> jokeem: youll have to change the name to just xorg.conf though to try it - again on you hard drive install not the live cd
[03:54] <serengeti> jokeem: firefox stuff is in the directory called ".mozilla"
[03:54] <mkquist__> jokeem:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3f5ec395
[03:54] <LinuX2half> why I can't seem to upgrade my firefox?
[03:54] <jokeem> mkquist__:  don't worry, im reinstalling it.
[03:54] <mkquist__> jokeem: or you can just reinstall, your choice
[03:54] <LinuX2half> I open the browser as root but it doesn't display the update option
[03:54] <jokeem> mkquist__: k 4 hours of trying, straight.. give up
[03:54] <mkquist__> jokeem: ok
[03:54] <andydbzee> i've got a problem with totem, i'm pretty sure it has to do with gstreamer. i can't seem to play dvds, vlc is not working either
[03:55] <mkquist__> jokeem: gave it a go though..  sry
[03:55] <andydbzee> i'd like to get it to work in vlc honestly
[03:55] <eeepcwifi> ubuntu-bug detects network-manager-gnome as non-genuine and wont let me report a bug with it. Any suggestions?
[03:55] <jokeem> mkquist__:  yeahh
[03:55] <jokeem> mkquist__:  nw
[03:55] <TeslaTony> LinuX2half, what version do you have and what are you trying to upgrade to?
[03:55] <dj_segfault> hiexpo: On a lark I went to system > preferences > startup applications and I see volume control in there, which is gnome-volume-control-applet.  I think that's it, but there's no volume control. I'll try to find it and run manually.
[03:55] <mkquist__> jokeem: i say back it up, give the edit a chance, it fails.. reainstall, it works, you done.
[03:56] <andydbzee>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  dvdnav error: cannot set title (can't decrypt DVD?) dvdread error: fatal error in vts ifo dvdread error: DvdReadSetArea(0,0,1) failed (can't decrypt DVD?) main error: no access module matched "dvd"
[03:56] <LinuX2half> TeslaTony:Currently I'm running 3.5.7 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 3.6
[03:56] <andydbzee> this is what i get in vlc... any ideas?
[03:56] <jokeem> mkquist__:  i say throw the thing in the bin
[03:56] <mkquist__> jokeem: naw, you can do that tomorrow... =p
[03:56] <jokeem> mkquist__:  im like 3 hours behind now in school work.. could of had the best head start today lol
[03:57] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[03:57] <mkquist__> repeat after me.. dont make changes for no reas.... oh nevermind too late for that
[03:57] <jokeem> lol
[03:57] <TeslaTony> LinuX2half, try http://smartproteam.com/install-current-firefox-36-ubuntu/
[03:57] <jokeem> my sound wasnt working
[03:57] <Flare-Laptop> !lol | jokeem (once again)
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[03:57] <Flare-Laptop> !ops | skeelol
[03:57] <jokeem> trying to fix that
[03:57] <serengeti> mkquist__: as I said, if all you care about is firefox then you just have to backup the .mozilla folder
[03:57] <serengeti> mkquist__: sorry wrong nick ;)
[03:57] <jokeem> will it backup my book marks too?
[03:58] <serengeti> jokeem: as I said, if all you care about is firefox then you just have to backup the .mozilla folder
[03:58] <mkquist__> serengeti: np
[03:58] <LinuX2half> I have already have those PPA source code inputed
[03:58] <serengeti> jokeem: everything including extensions, history, cookies, bookmarks etc
[03:58] <jokeem> serengeti:  ohh noo, history ^^
[03:59] <serengeti> jokeem: the best thing to do is find that .mozilla directory, right click on it and choose Compress
[03:59] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[03:59] <jokeem> serengeti:  ok
[04:00] <hiexpo> there ya go
[04:00] <LinuX2half> Well I've try to add the sourceforge source code and already I can't seem to update my browser
[04:00] <jokeem> ARRRRRRRRRRRR. Wont let me abckup, permission denied!!!!
[04:00] <mkquist__> serengeti: so which mozilla directory?
[04:00] <jokeem> FFFFFFF**
[04:00] <mkquist__> jokeem: sudo
[04:00] <hiexpo> that should fix it
[04:00] <LinuX2half> Does anyone know to resolve this issue....?
[04:01] <jokeem> sudo what? :S
[04:01] <mkquist__> jokeem: try sudo whatever command you were trying to backup
[04:01] <mkquist__> jokeem: oh your in nautilus
[04:01] <hiexpo> LinuX2half: - whays the prob
[04:02] <jokeem> i was draging folders onto my usb.. lol
[04:02] <ToastedPine> jokeem: you could try sudo nautilus, then you could just drop drag things
[04:02] <mkquist__> jokeem: gksudo nautilus
[04:02] <jokeem> ToastedPine:  ok
[04:02] <helper> is there any program like vnstat but in real time ? coz vnstat either need 5 min or manual to update ! thx
[04:02] <mkquist__> does gksudo even matter against sudo anymore?
[04:02] <jokeem> ToastedPine:  wait.. i cant see  my other partiton when i gksudo...
[04:02] <LinuX2half> hiexpo: Alright, I'm running a 3.5.7 version of firefox and I want to upgrade the browser to 3.6 but when I run the browser as root it doesn't display the "check for updates" option.
[04:03] <serengeti> jokeem: in the terminal, do
[04:03] <serengeti> "cd ~/Desktop"
[04:03] <mkquist__> jokeem: look in media
[04:03] <puff> Hm, I tried to install the firefox daily build via the PPA.  This broke, citing dependency on abrowser-brnading and firefox-branding.   I installed those packages manually and firefox then refused to start, instead popping up a warning "History Tree Extension - Overlay Initialization Error."
[04:03] <jokeem> No media?
[04:03] <ToastedPine> O_O
[04:03] <mkquist__> serengeti: wont that just put him in the root folder?
[04:03] <LinuX2half> hiexpo: I've also added the source code and the daily build.
[04:03] <serengeti> jokeem: then "sudo tar -cf moz.tar /media/disk/home/YOURUSERNAME/.mozilla"
[04:04] <eeepcwifi> helper: for realtime I use iftop and for logging purposes I use ntop
[04:04] <serengeti> mkquist: it should put him on the livecd desktop
[04:04] <hiexpo> LinuX2half: - i am not sure about that but i think you have to download and install it manually
[04:04] <mkquist__> serengeti: if he sudo nautilus?
[04:04] <puff> I then removed the daily build PPA from my /etcapt/sources.list and then apt-get removed firefox, apt-get removed abrowser-brnading, apt-get removed firefox-branding.   Installed firefox, it failed to run.  Removed it and reinstalled it two or three times and it finally is sorta working, though it'smissing the /usr/bin/firefox alias to /usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[04:04] <puff> Any advice here?
[04:04] <serengeti> mkquist__: but he can't see the partitions if he does sudo nautils
[04:05] <helper> eeepcwifi, what i need is to check the bandwidth usage in real time like if my users are downloading how much !! Does ntop do this?
[04:05] <mkquist__> why not?
[04:05] <mkquist__> serengeti: why not?
[04:05] <serengeti> mkquist__: dunno, but that's what he said.
[04:05] <jokeem> ok ff backed up
[04:05] <jokeem> can i sue that command for other dirctories?
[04:05] <jokeem> use*
[04:05] <mkquist__> serengeti: cause he started in diff place
[04:06] <serengeti> jokeem: you have that moz.tar file on the desktop?
[04:06] <ToastedPine> hmmm, it's a long shot, but chmod 777 <path to folder> might be able to make copying possible.
[04:06] <jokeem> serengeti:  yes
[04:06] <serengeti> jokeem: have you checked what's inside?
[04:06] <jokeem> ser yeah
[04:06] <jokeem> serengeti:  firefox.. my addons.. etc
[04:07] <jokeem> bookmarks
[04:07] <eeepcwifi> helper: ntop will graphically track overall usage as well as individual ip traffics going through your gateway. It keeps statistical logs of everything and updates realtime. Its webbased and uses its own built in webserver. Iftop is great for getting current traffic based on an interface (eg. iftop -i eth0) but it doesn't keep statistical logs. I manage 30 servers and use iftop for quick spot checks if its running slow and ntop for history to see when / 
[04:07] <jokeem> serengeti:  ill use that command for toher folders?
[04:08] <serengeti> jokeem: you can but you might run out of space
[04:08] <jokeem> ill delete as I go serengeti
[04:09] <serengeti> jokeem: the thing is that your livecd desktop has very little free space
[04:09] <eeepcwifi> helper: ntop also gives you top users and you can go in and see exactly what traffic they were doing and when. As well as their throughput.
[04:09] <mkquist__> serengeti:  isnt he copying this to a usb drive?
[04:09] <LinuX2half> hiexpo: oh okay then thanks
[04:09] <serengeti> jokeem: so you might want to do "cd /media/Lexer" in the terminal so that the files end up on the pendrive
[04:09] <jokeem> mkquist__:  yea lol
[04:09] <jokeem> ok
[04:09] <serengeti> mkquist__: I told him to do cd ~/Desktop before ;)
[04:10] <eeepcwifi> helper: I think ntop is what yoru looking for if you need statistical history. but if you just need to do a quick check on who is doing what right now then iftop provides a very low overhead command line interface thats really quick and easy.
[04:11] <ToastedPine> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2007/12/access_linux_files_from_window/   <--- copy firefox backup in windows?
[04:11] <LinuX2half> When will ubuntu finished packaging firefox 3.6?
[04:11] <eeepcwifi> helper: but ntop can be used to see who is doing what right now as well, but is more resource intense by nature.
[04:11] <hiexpo> LinuX2half: - no prob sorry i couldn't help
[04:11] <kad_>  eeepcwifi  downloaded ntop! http://localhost => for web log?
[04:11] <mkquist__> LinuX2half: chrome...
[04:11] <LinuX2half> hiexpo that's alright, but I thanked for your effort
[04:11] <zenlunatic> LinuX2half: probably april
[04:12] <serengeti> jokeem: before you do the reinstall, please check that all the files really are in the archives you create and on the usb drive, ok? :P
[04:12] <LinuX2half> That long...?
[04:12] <mkquist__> jokeem: I'm still of the opinion that its worth on more reboot after editing the xorg.conf file...  If that works your done.. no reinstall
[04:12] <jokeem> serengeti:  lol i will
[04:12] <jokeem> mkquist__:  doubt it will lol
[04:13] <mkquist__> jokeem: youd be surpised, i used to install when i ran into problems before, but now ive found that it can usually be fixed pretty easily and you learn
[04:13] <eeepcwifi> kad: you need to configure it's conf file and then connect to it by port.. eg http://localhost:5423 or what ever port you configure it to run on
[04:13] <mkquist__> jokeem:  oops- in the process
[04:13] <jokeem> mkquist__:  I guess, but im on the verge of smashing things..
[04:13] <serengeti> mkquist__: I agree, reinstalling is generally against the linux spirit ;) but if he's already so much late...
[04:13] <eeepcwifi> Kad: I use ntop in OpenSuSE and its config file is located in /etc/sysconfig/ntop
[04:14] <mkquist__> serengeti: i know, but thats one thing that has not been done... and its simple
[04:15] <eeepcwifi> kad: you need to configure the interface it listens on, port it will run its webserver on and what user it will run its webserver with and other settings for performance
[04:15] <jph_> If I want to prevent apache from starting on boot where do i go to change that
[04:15] <serengeti> jokeem: I have to go anyway. you can always try the xorg.conf thing after you've backed up your stuff and just check if the system boots ok
[04:15] <LinuX2half> okay then I'll wait patiently until its furnished just like last time
[04:15] <jokeem> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:15] <jokeem> wait serengeti
[04:15] <serengeti> jokeem: ?
[04:16] <jokeem> please,
[04:16] <jokeem> how can i use that command to backup other things
[04:16] <jokeem> saying no such file or dir
[04:16] <jokeem> how can i do all of it at once.. actually
[04:16] <viersya> .....
[04:17] <LinuX2half> is there some way where I can see the progress of the firefox version development..?
[04:17] <eeepcwifi> kad: for example I run mine with this: /usr/bin/ntop -P /var/lib/ntop -i eth0 -u wwwrun -w <INTERFACE_IP>:5423 -b -n -z
[04:17] <eeepcwifi> The -P is where it will store its database -b -n -z are for performance reasons
[04:17] <LinuX2half> I'm not sure if there's a site to track the progress of the developing version online......
[04:17] <jokeem> can I backup from windows? cause I have a large aprtiotn there.. ill just backup the whole l ot
[04:17] <mkquist__> serengeti: lookit the output of glxinfo |grep vendor, unknown chip id. cant guess, so the machine doesnt know what its dealing with
[04:18] <elnur> hello
[04:18] <mkquist__> jokeem: windows doesnt usually read from ext partitions...
[04:18] <serengeti> jokeem: maybe try tar cvf everything.tar /media/disk/home/yourusernamehere    - it would copy your entire home dir
[04:18] <eeepcwifi> kad: you'll see that i specify port 5423 so when connecting to its web interface i use http://<IP>:5423
[04:18] <ranjan> i am not being able to b rouse my network place from nautilus  it is giving an error message of Failed to retrieve share list from server   any help would be of great help
[04:18] <jokeem> serengeti:  ok, cheers
[04:19] <mkquist__> serengeti: if he has a windows part- why  not back up there?
[04:19] <jokeem> serengeti:  it's working :)
[04:20] <aliendude3500> Are there any devs on here that are working on the new software center rating system? I was looking at the concepts and I noticed that the term "Ubuntu Single Sign-On Account" is used. Is this just your Launchpad account?
[04:20] <serengeti> mkquist__: I guess it doesn't make much difference
[04:20] <eeepcwifi> kad_: but you may want to look at iftop its much simpler and great for quick spot checks
[04:20] <mkquist__> serengeti: more space?
[04:20] <rww> aliendude3500: I'm not familiar with the spec, but I would imagine so, yes.
[04:20] <andydbzee> crazy
[04:21] <andydbzee> ok. so i can't play dvds
[04:21] <rww> aliendude3500: since Launchpad is what's used for Ubuntu One (and practically everything else).
[04:21] <serengeti> mkquist__: touche. but maybe the usb drive has enough room? we'll see...
[04:21] <aliendude3500> Well, if any devs see this, I think it would be much better to make the dialog just say "Launchpad account" instead of "Ubuntu Single Sign-On account". MUCH less redundant. :)
[04:21] <andydbzee> and i think i deleted all my media dependencies
[04:21] <mkquist__> serengeti: hope
[04:21] <drenyx> l
[04:22] <jokeem> apprently it doesn't
[04:22] <serengeti> mkquist__: I think at the moment fglrx is needed for opengl acceleration on ati HD3200
[04:22] <andydbzee> anyone good with vlc errors?
[04:22] <drenyx> anyone know why my terminal/console garbles up ansi/ncurses stuff?
[04:22] <serengeti> jokeem: out of space?
[04:22] <jokeem> maybe I can backit up remotely to my windows machine...... some how
[04:22] <jokeem> serengeti:  yea lol
[04:22] <aliendude3500> I know you guys are trying to make this seem super easy and obvious for new users, but Launchpad account is shorter, better sounding, and not any harder to understand.
[04:23] <serengeti> jokeem: delete the movies :p
[04:23] <tarek> bongoir
[04:23] <andydbzee> thats silly
[04:24] <jokeem> serengeti:  got none son :P
[04:24] <serengeti> jokeem: but seriously, what's the name of your windows partition on the livecd desktop?
[04:24] <jokeem> ill see if i can borrow my friend external HDD
[04:24] <jokeem> umm
[04:24] <jokeem> ACER
[04:24] <serengeti> jokeem: ok so in the terminal do cd /media/ACER
[04:24] <andydbzee> my best friend is google
[04:25] <serengeti> and then that tar thing
[04:25] <uwall-e> can anyone help me to write data to a hfsplust external?
[04:25] <jokeem> ur a legend
[04:25] <serengeti> maybe there's enough room on your windows drive
[04:25] <jokeem> ...if it works :)
[04:25] <jokeem> 100gb should do it :)
[04:25] <serengeti> jokeem: it's actually mkquist__'s idea ;)
[04:26] <jokeem> <3 mkquist__  & serengeti
[04:26] <mkquist__> serengeti: just need to get him fixed, whoevers idea.. =)
[04:26] <serengeti> jokeem: but I really have to go, it's 5:26 am where I live
[04:26] <jokeem> serengeti:  ok thanks heaps for the help
[04:26] <mkquist__> jokeem:  gedit /etc/xorg.conf...
[04:26] <mkquist__> jokeem: g/l either way
[04:27] <jokeem> mkquist__:  lemme b/u first
[04:27] <serengeti> i might be not completely aware of what I'm saying anymore :P
[04:27] <mkquist__> jokeem: of course
[04:27] <uwall-e> no one have any ideas
[04:27] <uwall-e> ?
[04:27] <jokeem> lol
[04:27] <eeepcwifi> answers aren't instant from what I've learned :(
[04:28] <jokeem> mkquist__:  I'll talk to you later.. if you're still on, while it backups. I need a rest
[04:28] <serengeti> mkquist__: he's on live cd, /etc isn't interesting,  you want /media/disk/etc/foooooo
[04:28] <mkquist__> jokeem: kk
[04:28] <serengeti> mkquist__: bye
[04:28] <serengeti> jokeem: bye
[04:28] <tonsofpcs> they aren't?
[04:28] <mkquist__> serengeti: bye
[04:28] <jokeem> the home fodler as all m installed programs.. desktops... music.. pics etc right lol
[04:29] <SetiAmon> hey how do i open a rar in ubuntu.this is the first time i have had to unrar a file since moving to linux
[04:29] <blakkheim> SetiAmon: unrar x file.rar
[04:29] <mkquist__> jokeem: for the most part, its got your configs, not sure about all the programs though
[04:29] <jokeem> mkquist__:  ok
[04:29] <SetiAmon> blakkheim thanks i'll try that now
[04:30] <undec1m> Anyone have any tips on recovering data from a partition that failed to resize with gparted? Here's the kicker: the files were encrypted with ecryptfs.
[04:30] <uwall-e> its kinda odd that im having this much trouble with hfs+ and linux! i thought this would have been an issue that was quickly salved
[04:30] <hiexpo> download unrar
[04:30] <j-3-r-g_> yo
[04:31] <j-3-r-g_> wats up everyone
[04:31] <j-3-r-g_> anyone familiar with Classless Inter-Domain Routing
[04:31] <SetiAmon> hmm ok
[04:31] <j-3-r-g_> ?
[04:31] <j-3-r-g_> the wiki doesn't seem to help me as much i was expecting it to
[04:33] <ranjan> is it possible to create an link with auto mounted drive files
[04:33] <SetiAmon> hmm blakkheim I downloaded it but all 4 items failed  it said.i downloaded all of it.is there another way to unrar
[04:34] <eeepcwifi> SetiAmon: try unrar-free -x file.rar
[04:35] <jazz> hello. does anyone have any problems with the volume lowering and muting randomly? when NO music is playing?
[04:35] <ranjan> is it possible to create an link with auto mounted drive files i am getting this message Error while creating link how to fix it .... please reply
[04:36] <drenyx> �24;5Hs�24;6H�H�0m�24;5H �24;5H�H�0m�24;5Hd�24;6H�H�0m�24;5H �24;5H�  anyone know why I'm getting this on my terminal/console instead of having it interpreted correctly?
[04:37] <j-3-r-g_> drenyx: wat exactly u were trying to do
[04:37] <j-3-r-g_> ?
[04:37] <cmmenke> whats a fantastic program for ripping and encoding for linux?
[04:37] <cmmenke> movies
[04:37] <drenyx> j-3: I'm running a program that outputs ncurses and ansi colors to a terminal or console
[04:38] <jimmyknox> what??
[04:38] <jimmyknox> WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE
[04:38] <jimmyknox> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY AND I INSIST ON SAYING IT
[04:38] <drenyx> it's worked fine in slackware for 10 years, locally and over ssh but ubuntu wants to corrupt it
[04:38] <vexue> looking how to write data to hfs+ external??
[04:38] <SerpentX> jimmyknox: $5/night
[04:38] <jazz> my volume randomly lowers itself and or mutes. no music is playing
[04:38] <mkquist> cmmenke: avidemux?
[04:39] <j-3-r-g_> hmmmm dats strange
[04:39] <j-3-r-g_> is it a custome program u wrote?
[04:39] <cmmenke> avidemux can do x264?
[04:39] <vexue> any help
[04:39] <factotum> I thought I heard a rucus
[04:39] <mkquist__> cmmenke: encoding anyway
[04:39] <eeepcwifi> drenyx: im sure its has to do with the terminal program not understanding the ansi/ascii charectors
[04:39] <mkquist__> cmmenke: 64bit?
[04:39] <vexue> looking how to write data to hfs+ external??
[04:39] <drenyx> eee: I agree, how do I fix it?
[04:39] <vexue> any help
[04:40] <drenyx> j-3: screen shot at http://www.andreasen.org/mcl/shot1.gif
[04:40] <eeepcwifi> drenyx: I come from the good ol' bbs days where ansi/ascii was the cream of the crop!
[04:40] <drenyx> it's actually a mud program for playing a text based mud
[04:40] <eeepcwifi> drenyx: but I haven't had to figure out how to get a terminal program to interpret that type of data in .. mm about 20 years! LOL
[04:40] <drenyx> but even the colored bar at the top doesn't work
[04:40] <eeepcwifi> drenyx: mud .. sounds abour right
[04:40] <cmmenke> 32 :(
[04:40] <eeepcwifi> drenyx: are you using the standard terminal program with ubuntu
[04:40] <drenyx> eee: I haven't had problems 'till I played with ubuntu
[04:41] <dabukalam> I'm having problems scanning. When I run scanimage as root I have no problem, but when I run it normally I get: "scanimage: open of device brother2:bus6;dev1 failed: Error during device I/O". How can I modify the permissions on my scanner?
[04:41] <drenyx> tried gnome-terminal, xterm, eterm, aterm, putty, xterm without gnome, booted to recovery mode
[04:41] <jimmyknox> WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE
[04:41] <jimmyknox> "Page closed"
[04:41] <drenyx> it's definately a setting somewhere that affects terminatls
[04:41] <jimmyknox> join
[04:41] <dabukalam> jimmyknox, I think it's an IRC channel?
[04:42] <Diverdude> Is it possible to get a huge clock like this: http://www.elegantpie.com/hugeclock.html  in ubuntu ?
[04:42] <jimmyknox> You condescending to me, dabukalam?
[04:42] <j-3-r-g_> i dunno only thing that comes to mind is the .bashrc
[04:42] <jimmyknox> Now you fucked up
[04:42] <jazz> my volume randomly lowers itself and or mutes. no music is playing, ubuntu 9,10, never had a problem b4 and its annoying any1 have this problem?
[04:43] <j-3-r-g_> jazz: have u google da problem as yet?
[04:43] <dabukalam> !google | j-3-r-g_
[04:43] <Crayboff> hrm
[04:43] <wiggmpk> I just installed Karmic Koala on my notebook, currently running kernel 2.6.31-17 amd64. Every time I try to suspend my notebook, it cuts to a black screen with a blinking cursor. I have to manually power it off every time. Please help!!
[04:44] <jazz> no not googled
[04:44] <j-3-r-g_> hmmm
[04:44] <Out_Cold> wiggmpk, i occasionally get that. haven;t found a solution yet
[04:44] <j-3-r-g_> ok
[04:44] <factotum> whats a simple way to start up a sort of "transparent" bash terminal on my desktop. No window borders/background etc
[04:44] <andydbzee> i cannot get to dvd menu with xine
[04:44] <j-3-r-g_> anywayz its late i gots to go
[04:44] <andydbzee> although the dvd plays
[04:44] <j-3-r-g_> good luck with jazz
[04:45] <think__> Hello everyone
[04:45] <j-3-r-g_> later everyone
[04:45] <dabukalam> think__, Hi!
[04:45] <dabukalam> j-3-r-g_, bye!
[04:45] <andydbzee> cya
[04:45] <jazz> i was hoping for a specific idea than a random google one. on what might be or possible isnt a problem
[04:45] <Out_Cold> factotum, not sure about the transparency but yakuaki or what ever it's called is a drop down terminal.. very handy!
[04:45] <dabukalam> j-3-r-g_, bye!
[04:45] <dabukalam> I'm having problems scanning. When I run scanimage as root I have no problem, but when I run it normally I get: "scanimage: open of device brother2:bus6;dev1 failed: Error during device I/O". How can I modify the permissions on my scanner?
[04:45] <drew3> This seems to be the right place to ask about a way to make the 'mouse-cursor' in Gnome 'bigger' 9.10.
[04:46] <andydbzee> sigh
[04:46] <andydbzee> i think i'm rooted
[04:46] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, add yourself to the group associated... perhaps it's scan?
[04:46] <dabukalam> drew3, can't that be done from the appearance settings? i'm not entirely sure if you can change the size of cursors, but I know you can change the cursor theme from there
[04:47] <think__> or in gconf-editor maybe
[04:47] <dabukalam> Out_Cold: Okay, how can i view which users are in a group?
[04:47] <drew3> dabukalam: not that I could find.
[04:47] <jazz> brb
[04:47] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, sudo nano /etc/group
[04:48] <Quan-Time> anyone run steam + bioshock in WINE ? i cant get it to launch. ideas ?
[04:48] <dabukalam> drew3, try getting a larger cursor theme from gnome-look? although I'm sure there's an easier way
[04:48] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, drew3, check accesibility
[04:49] <think__> did you try gconf-editor
[04:49] <SetiAmon> eeepcwifi I tried unrar-free -x file.rar and it still failed
[04:49] <SolarisBoy> isn't it with no -?
[04:49] <drew3> cursor theme, ahh dabukalam   those terms help,  ty
[04:49] <dabukalam> Out_Cold, do I have to restart anything, or will it take changes immediately?
[04:50] <rumpsy> SetiAmon: Install unrar-nonfree
[04:50] <rumpsy> And try it
[04:50] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, i don't think it's immediate. ask around though
[04:50] <SetiAmon> but don't i have to register the nonfree version of unrar to use it
[04:50] <Out_Cold> SetiAmon, no
[04:51] <eeepcwifi> SetiAmon: what is the error it failed with?
[04:51] <Ramza> is banshee generally a bad media player?  it's taking up in excess of 800MB's of memory for me right now.
[04:51] <dabukalam> Out_Cold, yeah I have my user added to all the groups in there, saned, scanner, saneusers, but still no access
[04:51] <dabukalam> how can I chown the scanner with a group?
[04:51] <rumpsy> SetiAmon: What version of unrar you are having right now?
[04:51] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, i can't say for 100% but nay need a complete reboot for the effects to take place
[04:52] <dabukalam> Out_Cold: I'd rather restart a process, it's a server and currently serving...
[04:52] <SetiAmon> well since i just installed it i should have the latest.1.3.1
[04:53] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, you can chown the specific process but that may not help you either... might not be what you expected
[04:53] <rumpsy> Ramza: It depends upon what codec you are having and what type of media file you are playing !
[04:53] <Out_Cold> dabukalam, my server takes less than 1 min to reboot... might be worth it..
[04:53] <Out_Cold> maybe someone else here knows how to have /etc/group changes take effect
[04:54] <SetiAmon> cool it worked
[04:54] <SetiAmon> Thanks all,thanks unrar-nonfree worked
[04:54] <rumpsy> SetiAmon: :)
[04:55] <Ramza> well, for now i'll just restart it and wait.  see if it hapens again.  I like it so would prefer to keep using it.  thanks.
[04:55] <Out_Cold> SetiAmon, nonfree just means it does not follow the ubuntu code of open source, there for not included by default
[04:55] <SetiAmon> oh
[04:55] <SetiAmon> thanks
[04:55] <cmmenke> where is the terminal in the launch application?
[04:55] <Quan-Time> bioshock + wine (steam).. anyone got experience with it ? i cant get it working.. but its rated as gold, and no comments on it.
[04:55] <rumpsy> Quan-Time: goto accessories
[04:56] <dabukalam> cmmenke, if you mean the app menu, it's in accessories...
[04:56] <Out_Cold> SetiAmon, like mp3's are not open source, there for you need to enable on a default machine..
[04:56] <SetiAmon> Hmm since i set up dual monitors (twinview) when i hit f12 it maximizes on my second screen(which is a 40 inch tv behind me) is there a way to get it to open up here on my small monitor(already selected as primary)
[04:56] <Quan-Time> rumpsy: yer.. and ?
[04:56] <Diverdude> Is it possible to get a huge clock like this: http://www.elegantpie.com/hugeclock.html  in ubuntu ?
[04:57] <rumpsy> Quan-Time: you can also do like this, press alt+F2, then typein gnome-terminal
[04:58] <dabukalam> Diverdude, there's a cool mod site at http://www.gnome-look.org - check out the screensavers over there, I'm sure you'll find something suitable
[04:58] <rumpsy> default terminal is in , press alt+F2 goto accessories and choose terminal
[04:58] <rumpsy> default terminal is in , press alt+F1 goto accessories and choose terminal
[04:58] <Quan-Time> yup.. i know term..
[04:58] <rumpsy> ^^
[04:58] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, Quan-Time you can also do ctrl + alt + f1-f7 to get different ttys and switch back and forth
[04:58] <rumpsy> Quan-Time: what you want then?
[04:58] <Quan-Time> wait.. i asked about bioshock + WINE...
[04:59] <rumpsy> ah
[04:59] <jazz> ive googled  my problem and nothing was for me everything was intrepid or laptops
[04:59] <jazz> i use a desktop hp and  only after a fresh install of the os has this been happening
[05:00] <rumpsy> jazz: what was your problem?
[05:00] <cmmenke> i went to download something, and sais it requires an app. to load, and im looking terminal, where is that in the browser?
[05:00] <jazz> regardless of listening to music or not the volume just lowers or mutes
[05:01] <jazz> sometimes gradually other times way fast to mute
[05:01] <rumpsy> cmmenke: what type of file you downloaded?
[05:01] <cmmenke> the ubuntu law restriction thing
[05:01] <cmmenke> Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and 9.10 (Karmic Koala)
[05:02] <jazz> never had a problem before
[05:02] <zilkomaa> Could some1 help me plz..i upgraded grub & kernel and now i cant boot to windows xp when i press enter in grub it just loads grub again? No error messages and nothing..
[05:02] <rumpsy> jazz: set your volume preference to PCM
[05:03] <ghthor> zilkomaa, which version of grub is it?
[05:03] <zilkomaa> ghthor, 1.97
[05:03] <zilkomaa> ghthor, 1.97b
[05:03] <rumpsy> cmmenke: so is that a PDF or DOC
[05:03] <ghthor> zilkomaa, have you tried running "sudo update-grub" already?
[05:03] <cmmenke> ugh
[05:03] <jazz> whats pcm and how? (im sorry i am new)
[05:04] <cmmenke> i had to use apturl
[05:04] <cmmenke> whatever that is
[05:04] <zilkomaa> ghthor, no i hasnt ill try it
[05:04] <rumpsy> cmmenke: if you want to know about your system, goto system option ans look for about ubuntu
[05:05] <rumpsy> jazz, can you see volume icon on your panel? just right click and goto preference and select PCM in that
[05:05] <ghthor> zilkomaa, if that doesn't work paste your "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the url in here that is returns
[05:05] <Diverdude> dabukalam, it seems there is nothing on that side to be used as a desktop clock
[05:06] <jazz> yes  im looking for pcm.... i did right click after i asked how ,,, :)
[05:06] <dabukalam> Diverdude, you want a clock on your desktop, or a clock in your screensaver?
[05:06] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok ill try that previous one now thanks! brb
[05:06] <rumpsy> jazz: CAn you see PCM in that listed window, select that
[05:06] <cmmenke> does handbrake work for linux?
[05:07] <dabukalam> cmmenke, yup
[05:07] <dabukalam> !handbrake | cmmenke
[05:07] <cmmenke> 32 bit also?
[05:07] <rumpsy> handbrake?
[05:07] <cmmenke> or only 64
[05:07] <dabukalam> rumpsy, it's a DVD-ripping tool
[05:07] <rumpsy> oh
[05:07] <rumpsy> :)
[05:07] <jazz> only internal audio and bt878 aidio capture
[05:07] <cmmenke> it encodes also :)
[05:07] <Diverdude> dabukalam, sorry in the screensaver...basically i just want my computer to be able to show me the time in huge font
[05:07] <jazz> ubder hard ware
[05:07] <cmmenke> thanks guys
[05:08] <cmmenke> any really good ripping software? for entire cd rips, about the same as dvddecrypter
[05:08] <dabukalam> Diverdude, okay, just get a desktop widget and increase it's size to like 500%
[05:09] <rumpsy> Jazz: below to that hardware there will be some lists, in that choose PCM
[05:09] <Billiard> cmmenke: dvdbackup probably does just as good a job as dvddecryptor
[05:10] <Diverdude> dabukalam, but can i activate a desktop widget on a keystroke?
[05:10] <jazz> i found the list no pcm tohugh
[05:10] <rumpsy> Jazz: in that list you will be see something like this, MAster, PCM, Front, Front Mic, Lne-in............ and so and so , in that list choose PCM
[05:11] <tapan> hello , i am trying to install openldap on karmic
[05:11] <cmmenke> billiard: does it now :)
[05:11] <tapan> but it does not show the configuration dialog
[05:11] <priya> hi all
[05:11] <tapan> during installation
[05:11] <rumpsy> Jazz: Before that did you choosed Alsa Mixer
[05:11] <tapan> how do i set up the ldap password
[05:12] <dabukalam> Diverdude, if you download the app screenlets, and install this, you can make it huge: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Glass+themes+for+Digital+Clock+%28SVG%29?content=99585
[05:12] <priya> i need help in making a launcher for  .x86 file
[05:12] <dabukalam> !screenlets | Diverdude
[05:12] <rumpsy> priya: what?
[05:12] <jazz> `i dont have also mixer i dont think
[05:13] <jazz> no alsa mixer
[05:13] <dabukalam> Diverdude, yes with compiz, you can add them all into a widget layer and activate the layer using a keystroke or moving the mouse to a corner or side of the screen
[05:13] <zilkomaa> ghthor, Hi, it didnt work here's my grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/362376/
[05:13] <rumpsy> Jazz: in preference window, what are all the drivers you have in dropdown box
[05:13] <tapan> how do i configure openldap
[05:13] <jongbergs> !sound
[05:14] <rumpsy> Jazz^^
[05:14] <tapan> please help me
[05:14] <tapan> i need to configure ldap
[05:14] <rumpsy> !ldap
[05:14] <ghthor> zilkomaa, can you also post me the output from "sudo fdisk -l" and tell me what partition Windows is supposed to me on
[05:14] <Roasted> Does anybody know if there's a way you can add Skype to Pidgin? I'd like to use Pidgin for aim,yahoo, and skype, but I cant figure out if theres a skype plugin or not. :(
[05:15] <zilkomaa> ghthor, sure
[05:15] <priya> i want to creat a quick launch for a  program  because to launch it right now its too many steps in terminal
[05:15] <jazz> internal audio and bt878 audio capture
[05:15] <rumpsy> Roasted: You can check that in pidgin website for third party plugins
[05:15] <jazz> double  clicking nothing happens
[05:16] <rumpsy> Jazz: choose internal audio
[05:16] <zilkomaa> ghthor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362379/
[05:16] <jazz> it is
[05:16] <zilkomaa> ghthor, on that sda1
[05:17] <jazz> under profile  analog surround 5.1 + digital stereo  is selected
[05:17] <rumpsy> okay
[05:17] <rumpsy> Now, choose pcm below to that dropdown box
[05:18] <priya> i want to creat a quick launch for a  program  because to launch it right now its too many steps in terminal
[05:18] <jokeem> whats the command to backup firefox
[05:18] <rumpsy> it will contain something like, master, pcm , front, and so and so
[05:18] <jokeem> mkquist: u there
[05:18] <rumpsy> priya: what kind of app?
[05:18] <tapan> when i install ldap it does not show the configuration dialog
[05:19] <tapan> i even tried to reconfigure it
[05:19] <jazz> still no pcm
[05:19] <priya> .x86
[05:19] <rumpsy> Jazz: then what and all you see in that list
[05:19] <priya> is that what u are asking its a executable  program file
[05:20] <jazz> a bunch of 4.1 5.1 and analog and  digital stereo
[05:20] <rumpsy> priya, just rightclick on desktop and create a launcher
[05:20] <ghthor> zilkomaa, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362383/ try this grub.cfg
[05:20] <rumpsy> Jazz, paste those things in http://pastie.org
[05:20] <tapan> how cam i configure ldap
[05:20] <tapan> please help
[05:21] <priya> i have tried that  when i lauch the launcher the termial windows shuts down instantly it does not run
[05:21] <rumpsy> tapan: Why you need ldap
[05:21] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok
[05:21] <tapan> well i am building an ftp service using vsftpd
[05:21] <rumpsy> is that a windows application
[05:21] <tapan> and i do not want to give ftp users shelll access
[05:22] <priya> no this one is linux
[05:22] <jazz> wont let me right click it select the option
[05:22] <rumpsy> priya, try to chmod +x
[05:22] <priya> i can run it in terminal once i go into the cd of that file
[05:22] <Explore2> can anyone pls tell me abt this error? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[05:22] <jazz> can  i do a screen shot?
[05:22] <rumpsy> jazz , okay
[05:23] <Quan-Time> Explore2: umm.. paste the link, not the entry box thing ;)
[05:23] <Explore2> what do i need to paste?
[05:23]  * Trippin7464 »» Music: (Paused) «» Linkin Park - New Divide (181.FM - The Buzz (Your Alternative Station!)) «» 141:05/00:00 ««
[05:23] <Quan-Time> anyone got experience with bioshock (steam) and WINE ? i cant get it going.. only shows splash screen and stops, karmic 9.10 x64
[05:23] <rumpsy> Explore2: Nothing was in that page
[05:24] <Quan-Time> Explore2: yer. thats the part you enter..
[05:24] <cmmenke> okay, i need a solution for dvd ripping, i need somethng that won't compress anything, dvdbackup compresses audio
[05:24] <jokeem> Quan-Time:  what's the command to backup firefox..?
[05:24] <ghthor> zilkomaa, if that works, add these lines to "/etc/grub.d/40_custom" http://paste.ubuntu.com/362385/
[05:24] <priya> i have error reading config file
[05:24] <rumpsy> priya: so, what happened!
[05:24] <jazz> hmm where does the screenshots go on default? i didnt even gert a bot to save it or not
[05:24] <Quan-Time> jokeem: backup FF ? umm.. not sure.
[05:24] <jazz> so frustrating hehe
[05:24] <Explore2> Sorry, your post tripped our spam/abuse filter - let us know if you think this could be improved
[05:24] <Quan-Time> Explore2: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3e787cbf
[05:24] <Quan-Time> like that
[05:24] <jokeem> firefox
[05:24] <rumpsy> priya: Can you please tell us what file is that, or what app
[05:25] <jokeem> like tar cvf /media.. etc
[05:25] <Out_Cold> cmmenke, dd can produce an exact copy of a dvd... check that out
[05:25] <rumpsy> Jazz: ;)
[05:25] <Quan-Time> jokeem: isnt there an option to backup your db ? config / history / bookmarks ?
[05:25] <priya> i can send u the  folder u have  a look
[05:25] <jokeem> Quan-Time:  nvm..
[05:25] <cmmenke> dd?
[05:25] <Quan-Time> np :)
[05:25] <rumpsy> ;)
[05:25] <Explore2> pastebin not working for me
[05:25] <tapan> so how do i autoconfigure ldap
[05:26] <priya> desktop@DESKTOP:~$ chmod +x
[05:26] <priya> chmod: missing operand after `+x'
[05:26] <priya> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[05:26] <mirsal> moin
[05:26] <Quan-Time> Explore2: you have some sort of adblock / java block
[05:26] <Quan-Time> ??
[05:26] <rumpsy> Explore2: alternate in http://pastie.org
[05:26] <Explore2> http://codepad.org/QBLhYlO0
[05:26] <tapan> how to i configure ldap
[05:26] <tapan> how to i configure ldap
[05:26] <tapan> how to i configure ldap
[05:26] <FloodBot1> tapan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <Quan-Time> HARHAR why do ppl even bother to try that
[05:27] <tapan> please help me
[05:27] <blakkheim> !please | tapan
[05:27] <cmmenke> is dd command0-line?
[05:27] <delan> tapan, http://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[05:27] <rumpsy> Explore2: okay, that was may due to some error due to server busy
[05:27] <delan> cmmenke, yes
[05:27] <Abnix> I've just discovered the most astonishing thing about this distro....  no matter what I do, I cannot stop X from loading at boot... I've done the 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove'  I've even found the gdm init script and made it non-executable... but still here I sit at a gdm login prompt
[05:27] <tapan> i need to configure ldap
[05:27] <delan> tapan, http://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[05:27] <Explore2> but that error never goes off for me
[05:28] <priya> can i send  u the folder with this  file in it
[05:28] <cmmenke> lame....im so new to linux, 4 days using it, 18 years of windows
[05:28] <Abnix> anypne know of a sure fire way to disable (but not cripple) x ?
[05:28] <rumpsy> priya, :) , cd to that folder, and this is example, chomd +x priya, where priya is the file to execute
[05:28] <jazz> hell i cant even print the screen with the window open? i hope  10.4 isnt  this bad
[05:29] <tapan> how do i configure ldap
[05:29] <priya> ok
[05:29] <rumpsy> jazz: ;)
[05:29] <David664> im trying to execute a program in wine but it freezes or its slow, is this normal
[05:29] <David664> ?
[05:29] <jazz> except 9.10 wasnt problematic till i reinstalled it
[05:30] <rumpsy> jazz, do onething after right click choose "open volume control"
[05:30] <Explore2> rumpsy: do you mean my server is slow or ubuntu server?
[05:30] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok he how can i save that grub.cfg it doesnt allow me to whats the magic words read only..
[05:30] <scunizi> David664: check wine's site for your programs compatibility .. wine is not a windows substitute
[05:30] <rumpsy> Explore2: do this , apt-get install netselect-apt
[05:31] <David664> o i thought it worked on all of them :)
[05:31] <jazz> i right click i have mute and prefrences
[05:31] <Out_Cold> scunizi, wine is Not an emulator :p
[05:31] <rumpsy> jazz: after that choose edit in that window and goto preference
[05:31] <rumpsy> priya: What happened ?
[05:31] <zilkomaa> ahthor, to get write access to that file..
[05:31] <scunizi> Out_Cold: yep.. or a "substitute" :)
[05:32] <zilkomaa> ahthor, chmod something..??
[05:32] <priya> rumpsy, this is what i got  back in terminal desktop@DESKTOP:~/Desktop/RQC$ chmod +x rq-echo-client.x86
[05:32] <priya> desktop@DESKTOP:~/Desktop/RQC$
[05:32] <Myke1> can you use Virtualbox to install windows to play windows games?
[05:32] <Out_Cold> Myke1, slow but possible
[05:32] <priya> ls
[05:33] <scunizi> Myke1: some games not all.. depends on how graphicly intensive they are. do they need 3d etc..
[05:33] <rumpsy> priya, what kind of file is that, still i don't understand
[05:34] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, maybe i can add to priya's issue. she/he has a script which it the rq-echo-client.x86 which checks locally in the same folder for a .conf file, she is trying to call the script withoput having to cd to the folder in question
[05:35] <priya> right on and im a he  lol
[05:35] <rumpsy> priya, after chmod +x go to that folder and double click that chmoded file to execute
[05:35] <rumpsy> so, you are shemale right, lol
[05:35] <lifestream> {QUESTION}  -  Hmm, hello everyone, just a simple question about backup, I guess: when a backup is done, does it backup every single file again, or just those that have *changed* from the last backup?
[05:36] <Out_Cold> problem is, sym-linking it to /bin/ forces an error and also editing the $PATH which I may or may not have correctly assisted in
[05:36] <wzssyqa> i want to share some file with ftp,is there a simple ftp server?
[05:36] <priya> u lost me on the command
[05:36] <Out_Cold> lifestream, depends on the application used.. some do both
[05:36] <scunizi> wzssyqa: one.ubuntu.com.. online and shareable
[05:36] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, proftpd is great
[05:37] <jazz> under settings for selected device  all i get are a bunch of analog 5.1 to 7.1 device input and digital stereo inuts
[05:37] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: is there one that just a command?
[05:37] <jazz> inputs^
[05:37] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ill try that now..
[05:37] <rumpsy> Out_Cold: could you understand what kind of query priya(he/she) asked? , but i'm not
[05:37] <wzssyqa> just like python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080
[05:38] <lifestream> Out_Cold, both, huh? Hmm.. I'm looking online at different backup apps, really difficult to see which ones do it :P
[05:38] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, not sure what you mean
[05:38] <rumpsy> Anyway, brb
[05:38] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, he wants to run this script every boot up/log in.. so far my attempts to assist have been futile
[05:38] <ghthor> zilkomaa, were you able to boot into windows?
[05:38] <jazz> vev um restarting mabe that will cottect
[05:39] <jazz> correwct
[05:39] <Abnix> anyone here have a good xorg config for use on a 7 inch screen?
[05:39] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: the simplest ftp server
[05:39] <jazz>  cant type in the dark  lol
[05:39] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, as easily as possible. ie: not by cd ..... ./file
[05:39] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: and not a deman
[05:39] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, proftpd is easy to set up and easy to add users but it has a gui frontend
[05:40] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: i want just like this python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 to get a http server
[05:40] <Out_Cold> jazz, my typing gets worse dependoing on the light
[05:40] <zetheroo> I lost this info ... whats the PPA for the best and latest nvidia drivers?
[05:40] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, use firefox for that?
[05:41] <Oasa> How to get a file with primarily no data, but i have to occupy space ?
[05:41] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: firefox?
[05:41] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, firefox allows you to connect to ftp or http
[05:42] <tr1sth3t> I am having a problem with horribly slow download speeds with Ubuntu 9.10. Are there any know issues? Speeds are @ 2000-3000B/s for some packages for archive.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <rumpsy> wzssyqa: for ftp you can also use nautilus
[05:42] <tapan> how to change the ldap password
[05:42] <Out_Cold> tr1sth3t, switch server locations
[05:42] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: is there a good http clenck that work like ftp one?
[05:42] <Explore2> rumpsy: http://codepad.org/RFeHzmBf
[05:43] <tapan> please how to change the ldap password
[05:43] <rumpsy> Explore2: oh, happy now?
[05:43] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, like rumpsy said, nautilus or firefox, depends on what exactly you want to do
[05:43] <tapan> please help me
[05:43] <tr1sth3t> Out_Cold, explain. In my software sources under the Ubuntu Software tab is shows server for the US and main server. I set it to main server but it's still the same.
[05:43] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: i want to transfer a lot of image to another person
[05:44] <rumpsy> tapan: i donno about ldap, you man it
[05:44] <cmmenke> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:44] <cmmenke> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:44] <Out_Cold> there is even a built in ftp client in gnome located in the menu.... but i think that's nautilus
[05:44] <cmmenke> what does that mean?
[05:44] <Explore2> rumpsy: i can install what i want now..btw wot does that command mean?
[05:44] <Explore2> cmmenke: run with sudo
[05:44] <cmmenke> i did
[05:44] <cmmenke> sudo apt-get install vobcopy
[05:44] <cmmenke> and i tried
[05:44] <cmmenke> su
[05:44] <Out_Cold> tr1sth3t, set it to something close to you... the main has a lot of load
[05:44] <Explore2> may be synaptic is kept open
[05:44] <rumpsy> cmmenke: please check any other terminal is opened query to installation, or synaptic manager
[05:45] <EastDallas> tapan: user password?
[05:45] <Out_Cold> wzssyqa, then tarballing or ftp is the way to go. if you want to send to them, they need the server, if you want them to take from you, then you need the server
[05:45] <cmmenke> there is another synaptic running in non-interactive mode :(
[05:45] <rumpsy> Explore2: so , you installed, netselect-apt?
[05:45] <tapan> ldap password
[05:45] <EastDallas> tapan: ldap user password?
[05:45] <rumpsy> cmmenke: close that, ;)
[05:45] <tapan> yes
[05:45] <cmmenke> where is it?
[05:46] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: i know,but i don't want to use vsftpd etc,they are to big
[05:46] <tr1sth3t> Out_Cold, ubuntu.media.mit.edu seems to work a little better. Thanks.
[05:46] <Oasa>  How to make a file with primarily no data, but i have to occupy space ?
[05:47] <cmmenke> got it, thanks guys :)
[05:47] <tapan> EastDallas: you know about it
[05:47] <cmmenke> had a dialog box under all my windows
[05:47] <Out_Cold> tapan, something like ldappassword -A oldpass -s newpass
[05:47] <scunizi> Oasa: touch textfile.txt
[05:48] <zilkomaa> ghthor, now it says error: no such partition
[05:48] <ghthor> zilkomaa, hmmm
[05:48] <Oasa> I recently downloaded a fake movie which is a 3 min clip. 3 min is nothing but an image and background music. The size is 798 MB. All other is crap data. It made me angry. What i wonder how did they make it.
[05:48] <Oasa> scunizi : What ?
[05:48] <Out_Cold> dunno wzssyqa, check around, google, read/search in synaptic
[05:48] <wzssyqa> Out_Cold: thx
[05:49] <scunizi> Oasa: the fake movie could be a virus infected file made for windows users
[05:49] <Out_Cold> tapan, just try running ldappassword by it's self... or man ldappassword (which is where i found out the info above_
[05:50] <Noxon> looking 4 some 1 w/ exp w/ bt4
[05:50] <tapan> No manual entry for ldappassword
[05:50] <Out_Cold> Noxon, look in #backtrack-linux
[05:50] <ghthor> zilkomaa, http://paste.ubuntu.com/362394/ put that in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[05:50] <Oasa> scunizi : May be. But I want to make one. It should be like a 3 min video. Rest can be 0 data. But how do I make up ?
[05:50] <ghthor> zilkomaa, and rerun sudo update-grub
[05:50] <Noxon> thanks
[05:50] <Out_Cold> tapan, http://linux.die.net/man/1/ldappasswd
[05:50] <Explore2> rumpsy: ya i installed..what is that exactly?
[05:51] <priya> goog nite all i give up on linux maybe back to windows 7 for this file much easier to launch
[05:51] <scunizi> Oasa: no idea
[05:51] <Explore2> cmmenke: what is non-interactive mode?
[05:51] <Oasa> Can any one help me ?
[05:51] <rumpsy> Explore2: That deb file is to select fastest servers near to you.
[05:51] <priya> Linux very hard to learn and run my own opinion
[05:51] <rumpsy> priya: may be to you !
[05:52] <cmmenke> idk, but i got it
[05:52] <priya> lol  forsure
[05:52] <blakkheim> Linux is very easy to learn and run my own opinion
[05:52] <Quan-Time> bioshock, steam, wine... anyone got ideas / experience ? it shows splash. and stops
[05:52] <cmmenke> trying to learn the command-line for vobcopy now :( daunting
[05:52] <Out_Cold> priya, it's not friendly without a little help ;)
[05:52] <Explore2> so netselect-apt, is a deb file?
[05:52] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok is this the right way to add those lines? http://paste.ubuntu.com/362396/
[05:52] <Out_Cold> shove it blakkheim.... probably played with linux during it's early 90s phase :p
[05:52] <rumpsy> Linux, has opens its variety of options.
[05:53] <priya> all i want to do is run this app with launcher but it dont work for me
[05:53] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: more like 2006
[05:53] <ghthor> zilkomaa, yes
[05:53] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok
[05:53] <didi> Does empathy on a call in Karmic eats someone else cpu too? Here it practically tops one core (90%).
[05:53] <Maletor> Why can't I hear DTS out of XBMC? / How do I test if Ubuntu (pulseaudio) can play DTS?
[05:53] <Out_Cold> blakkheim, well then we are both on the same page lol... not hard, but definitely not easy
[05:54] <zilkomaa> ghthor, k i'll restart now..
[05:54] <Oasa> Can any one please tell me why they quit pidgin and moved on to empathy ?
[05:54] <ghthor> zilkomaa, ahh, wait those aren't the right lines, need  "set root=(hd0,1)", "chainloader (hd0,1)+1"
[05:54] <blakkheim> Oasa: angry teenagers who wanted webcam chat
[05:54] <zilkomaa> ghthor, eheh okoko
[05:54] <Out_Cold> Oasa, cuz they are lame
[05:55] <Oasa> Pidgin now supports webcam chat.
[05:55] <blakkheim> Oasa: it didn't when they switched
[05:55] <rumpsy> Explore2: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/netselect-apt, check it here
[05:55] <Out_Cold> so if enough people use pidgin over empathy (which i think is so far the case) they may switch back
[05:55] <priya> good nite all  i wont give up that  easy  i will be back  lol
[05:55] <Oasa> I like pidgin.
[05:56] <Out_Cold> we'll be here priya rest easy
[05:56] <jazz> i rebooted i just realized i dont even get the ubuntu drums  just the drums for login not the lil beat as the animation dances
[05:56] <priya> thanks
[05:56] <rumpsy> lol
[05:56] <jazz> screw! a hammer will fix it later!
[05:56] <Coded1> im thinking of purchasing a new rig in a few months and want to get something in the mid-high end that plays nice with linux, it's been a while and I'm hearing great things about amd cpus but not so much with ati gpu's + linux and also that amd mother boards don't play very well with nvidia. what kind of rigs do you guys run, where can I go for further info?
[05:56] <blakkheim> Coded1: avoid ati
[05:57] <blakkheim> Coded1: just build it yourself
[05:57] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok changed..
[05:57] <Out_Cold> Coded1, ati works great in laptops but not towers.. and nvidia always has driver issues that are difficult to fix
[05:57] <zilkomaa> ghthor, restarting now..
[05:57] <ghthor> zilkomaa, kk
[05:58] <Coded1> blakkheim, that I know (previous 9800 owner) and I will be building it myself, been checking around on newegg.com but scared if I get an AMD mb chipset im gonna paint myself into a corner, are there mobos that are friendly to both amd/nvidia?
[05:58] <scunizi> Out_Cold: I've never found that with nvidia.. lately the newer cards might have issues because the driver available in ubuntu is pretty far behind the power curve
[05:58] <blakkheim> Coded1: not sure, i'm an intel guy
[05:59] <Coded1> AMD prices are almost too sweet to let go
[05:59] <Out_Cold> scunizi, i've seen a fair bit of issues especially with overscanning and new drivers failing to support old cards..
[05:59] <Oasa> ia m an intel guy too
[05:59] <Xcell> i use asus / amd / nvidia / 0 problems.
[06:00] <scunizi> Out_Cold: new drivers and old cards don't mix well.. that's why there are 3 primary drivers for nvidia cards.. New .. Old.. and Older
[06:00] <rumpsy> But you hate those things when you have single cpu
[06:00] <Explore2> when do i get this err? ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.20 port 22: No route to host
[06:00] <Explore2> lost connection
[06:00] <Out_Cold> scunizi, agreed but try telling that to the auto-updater
[06:01] <Out_Cold> Explore2, firewall
[06:01] <wiggmpk> I just installed Karmic Koala on my notebook, currently running kernel 2.6.31-17 amd64. Every time I try to suspend my notebook, it cuts to a black screen with a blinking cursor. I have to manually power it off every time. Please help!!
[06:01] <Coded1> Explore2, check to see if you have an ip address on that card
[06:01] <scunizi> Out_Cold: yep.. I never use the auto updater.. in fact I use the drivers from nvidia's site.. I just plan on reinstalling them on a kernel upgrade
[06:01] <Explore2> How?
[06:02] <scunizi> wiggmpk: your swap should be apx 2x of your ram for suspend to work
[06:02] <Out_Cold> scunizi, but that's where i see the issues with users.... that and overscan is one hellova ***
[06:02] <rumpsy> But i donno how you guys do support for non-free drivers , o_O
[06:02] <rumpsy> i mean nvidia-glx
[06:02] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, we don
[06:02] <Out_Cold> t
[06:02] <wiggmpk> scunizi: 4 GB Physical RAM & 12 GB SWAP, not the issue :)
[06:03] <ghthor> zilkomaa, still no luck?
[06:03] <Out_Cold> rumpsy, nvidia issues for nvidia devs
[06:03] <zilkomaa> ghthor, argh now there is two windows xp boot sections in grub other one says again error: no such partition and other one loads back to grub like i said before :(
[06:03] <rumpsy> Everyday, someone asking about 3d drivers, why don't they use default drivers for stability
[06:04] <Coded1> guess you have to pick the lesser of the evils with gpu's intel just sucks, amd is great value but doesn't work on nix, nvidia offers a lot more but is closed
[06:04] <jazz> work with creative soundblaster cards? if  i have to use my sound card then fine because this is driving me nuts!
[06:04] <rileyp> hi all
[06:04] <jazz> does linux ybuntu 9.10 ^
[06:04] <rileyp> Can I get some help here with suspend
[06:04] <mihamina> rileyp: yep
[06:04] <rumpsy> i choosed to use nv driver as my default driver
[06:04] <rileyp> and karmic
[06:04] <scunizi> wiggmpk: suspend and hibernate don't share a unified method of programming and can be very different from one machine to the next.. I'd search the forums for your laptop model to see what others have experienced and possible solutions
[06:04] <Oasa> rileyp : Dont ask to ask. Just ask
[06:05] <zilkomaa> ghthor, should i reinstall grub or something..
[06:05] <rileyp> its a desktop and i have searched the forums for 3 days
[06:05] <rileyp> to no avail
[06:05] <rumpsy> I know the power of default video drivers
[06:05] <EastDallas> jazz: I have on old SB Audigy Platinum in my desktop, works like a charm.
[06:05] <Oasa> rileyp : YOur problem please
[06:05] <wiggmpk> scunizi: I have tried, also googled.. Looks like suspend/hibernate is a known issue with 9.10 and bug reports are filed.. Just taking a shot in the dark in the channel
[06:05] <wiggmpk> scunizi: you think a swap partition across a software raid would cause an issue with suspending
[06:06] <Oasa> wiggmpk : No
[06:06] <Myke1> I have NO idea why hardware manufacturers make closed sourced drivers :(
[06:06] <Oasa> lol Myke1
[06:06] <scunizi> wiggmpk: that's a wrinkle .. maybe
[06:06] <Myke1> they dont make money on the drivers, they make money on the hardware
[06:06] <rileyp> ok upon suspend screen freezes and keyboard no reponsive as well as mouse system is frozen
[06:06] <rumpsy> JAzz, if you are using soundblaster card, modprobe appropriate driver
[06:06] <wiggmpk> Oasa: no what?
[06:06] <Out_Cold> Myke1, to be better than the others... or at least different
[06:07] <wiggmpk> scunizi: doesnt seem like it would be an issue, it wasnt before
[06:07] <Oasa> wiggmpk: It wont cauase trouble.
[06:07] <rileyp> the  suspend log log looks fine though
[06:07] <ghthor> zilkomaa, well I don't know then, to remove the second entry just remove it from /etc/grub.d/40_custom.  Maybe you should just try reinstalling grub with "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[06:07] <wiggmpk> Oasa: any thoughts on why suspend is borked?
[06:07] <Coded1> Myke1, but if someone figures out a better way to do it they might feel bad
[06:07] <scunizi> wiggmpk: I'm not familure enough with raid to know
[06:07] <Coded1> wont anyone think of the corporations!
[06:07] <tony__>  anyone know where exactly in firefox it calls to the OS (linux specifically) to use a certain widget? reason being my widgets are messed up in kde 4.4 using firefox portable
[06:07] <zilkomaa> ghthor, ok thanks u anyway
[06:07] <rfgergrthnre> wiggmpk, suspend with ubuntu has a long history of being broken
[06:07] <jazz> man im so angry right now, first cairo  goes down making my updates crazy and i did a clean install of ubuntu reinstall all my stuff, and now sound give me trouble.
[06:07] <Oasa> wiggmpk : No idea. As you have said, Its a popular bug. Hope they fix it in Lynx.
[06:07] <rfgergrthnre> jazz, probably pulseaudio's fault
[06:07] <wiggmpk> Oasa: so do I
[06:08] <rileyp> I know its a common prob but i would liketo get on top of
[06:08] <Myke1> Well, its just a driver. They can concentrate on making the hardware and make drivers open sourced so that everyone who can make them better. no harm no foul
[06:08] <wiggmpk> rfgergrthnre: right, I remember.. However this is usually referred to as a regression.. suspend/hibernate should be a no brainer these days
[06:08] <Myke1> just my 2 cents
[06:09] <jazz> ok lets find puse audio? would i have installed it inadvertently?
[06:09] <rileyp> im using 2.6.31.14
[06:09] <Out_Cold> 2 cents compared to millions :p
[06:09] <rileyp> i will not upgrade kerel as i have doen in the past to no benefit other that ata read errors and randon sysmen freezes
[06:10] <rileyp> it doe snot fix suspend
[06:10] <EastDallas> tony__: That might be a question for #kubuntu or #firefox
[06:10] <albert> hello
[06:10] <Oasa> rileyp : Then what can you do ?
[06:10] <rileyp> hi bert
[06:11] <rileyp> Im asking!
[06:11] <Coded1> what do you guys think about ddr3 and tripple channel ram?
[06:11] <Coded1> just hype?
[06:11] <Myke1> Well, is it easy to dual boot Windows Xp and Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:11] <rfgergrthnre> wiggmpk, yep, it is regression... i dunno why, but things in ubuntu don't seem to stay in they work... look at x and audio... they were working fine in previous releases, but then they had to go and rewrite them and introduce lame bugs
[06:11] <Bailey> hi i have a question with my ubuntu
[06:11] <albert> On macOS terminal I can do "say hello" and my speakers say: hello. Can i do the same with Linux?
[06:11] <jazz> the players  i have now were the players i had before. and i dont have pulse audio
[06:12] <bastid_raZor> albert: espeak
[06:12] <Bailey> my programs are not working
[06:12] <albert> bastid_raZor: is espaeak a program?
[06:12] <Bailey> but they are supported with the new ubuntu
[06:12] <wiggmpk> rfgergrthnre: well they did integrate PulseAudio.. which is beautiful if they would of just integrated it properly.
[06:12] <rileyp> also when using mythbuntu my surround sound makes a d large crack sound everytime i open and close live tv or movie
[06:13] <rfgergrthnre> wiggmpk, heh, dont talk to me about pulseaudio... it's just really that bad
[06:13] <bastid_raZor> albert: it is a command line app.. it should be installed by default.
[06:13] <Oasa> bastid_raZor : I dont get espeak.
[06:13] <wiggmpk> rfgergrthnre: based upon what though? your experience with Ubuntu? other distro's havent had most of the problems with PulseAudio
[06:13] <bastid_raZor> !info espeak
[06:13] <rfgergrthnre> wiggmpk, volume resetting and randomly muting, a whole second of sound lag from all apps, unable to play audio from two apps at once... urgh
[06:14] <Oasa> bastid_raZor : I am getting this error
[06:14] <Oasa> PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_WRONLY
[06:14] <Explore2> Hi all, i installed x264 and gstreamer packages from apt-get on 9.10, i still get no element"x264", any idea?
[06:14] <Oasa> PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000
[06:14] <wiggmpk> rfgergrthnre: anyway, I am gabbing in a support channel lol.. later
[06:14] <rfgergrthnre> wiggmpk, which is the chat channel?
[06:14] <albert> bastid_raZor: thats true! thank you very much :)))
[06:14] <jazz> alright how do i find what my intergrated audio card is? im filing a bug report  has to be
[06:15] <wiggmpk> rfgergrthnre: eh...??? #ubuntu-offtopic i suppose
[06:15] <rumpsy> Jazz: check that in lspci command
[06:15] <albert> bastid_raZor: do you know if i can do the same but wirtting a command 'say' ?
[06:15] <tazbo> I used to have a script set up so I could right click a file or batch of files and resize them.. I still have the script but I forgot how I set it up... anyone suggest a site that has the info?
[06:15] <jazz> i dont know what that is,
[06:16] <Oasa> rename the program as say :S
[06:16] <albert> how can I change the word to 'say'?
[06:16] <albert> rename how?
[06:16] <wm_> how do i make my wireless intel nic work in karmic?
[06:16] <EastDallas> rileyp: I had the same problem.  It has to do with power_save...looking for the fix....
[06:16] <bastid_raZor> albert: alias say=espeak
[06:16] <Coded1> albert, "alias say=espeak'
[06:16] <rumpsy> albert, give a text file to it
[06:16] <rileyp> so my suspend issue is ther any setting in the /init.d/  folder i can try that might stop teh crashing upon suspned
[06:17] <albert> ok thanks you Coded1 bastid_raZor
[06:17] <albert> but my computer will remember this alias?
[06:17] <albert> when I restart my computer it will remember the alias?
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> albert: you could add it to your .bashrc file
[06:18] <albert> where's this file?
[06:18] <rww> albert: in your home folder
[06:18] <rileyp> its hidden
[06:18] <rww> albert: nano ~/.bashrc
[06:18] <albert> its an ocult file
[06:18] <albert> ?
[06:18] <albert> ok
[06:18] <albert> thanks
[06:18] <FloodBot1> albert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <albert> sorry FloodBot1
[06:19] <EastDallas> rileyp: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-fix-crackling-noise-on-hda-audio-cards-in-ubuntu-9-10.html
[06:19] <rileyp> thnaks for that East dallas
[06:20] <worud> What is favorite twitter client for ubuntu?
[06:21] <fib3r> Donate skills and hardware to rebuild an open source Haiti today: http://linuxcharity.webuda.com
[06:22] <cbleslie> WTF spam?
[06:22] <wm_> that sounds incredibly useless
[06:22] <Guest75386> what spam
[06:23] <kaziem> is there an alternative for tsmmc (windows) for linux? Basically tsmmc is a program to manage multiple remote desktops, one screen in each tab... check this to get a picture of what I mean http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Image:Windows_server_2008_remote_desktops_sessions.jpg
[06:23] <Guest75386> anyone use bt4 final
[06:23] <albert> bastid_raZor: then only i have to add 'alias say=espeak' on the last line of this file?
[06:23] <Oasa> yes aldbert.
[06:24] <wm_> why does the iwl driver suck so much ?
[06:24] <Oasa> add it anywhere.
[06:24] <albert> okey thanks you very much
[06:25] <Oasa> albert : There should many aliases already, such as ll = ll -s . look at the syntax and rewrite
[06:25] <lolnic_> Hi, how do i change the program gdm uses to hibernate? if i can, that is
[06:25] <albert> i did a question because i'm reading some examples in the same file like: alias ls=ls --color=auto'
[06:26] <Oasa> okay
[06:26] <albert> ok then now is perfect
[06:26] <albert> thank you
[06:26] <owen1> Anyone with Dell mini 10 or Inspiron 11Z - please confirm the touchpad bug I just sumbitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/512192
[06:26] <Oasa> welcome.
[06:26] <Oasa> If someone is swearing, how do i use ubottu to tell him that dont swear ?? !swear doesnt work :S
[06:27] <rww> Oasa: !language
[06:27] <Oasa> okay rww
[06:27] <Oasa> !language
[06:27] <onetinsoldier> kaziem: perhaps tsclient?
[06:27] <albert> !spanish
[06:27] <rww> owen1: glad I got the 10v ;P
[06:27] <EastDallas> worud: I like gwibber, but you can use Tweetdeck and Destroy Twitter by installing Adobe Air for linux.
[06:28] <vinq1> How do I change Apache .htaccess to only cache the homepage URL (/) and not the other files?
[06:28] <rileyp> what logs should i look at to resolve suspend problems
[06:28] <kaziem> onetinsoldier, good idea, I'll give it a try and report back
[06:29] <EastDallas> !ubottu | Oasa
[06:29] <albert> only for curiosity, exist the same program but with IDE interface?
[06:29] <worud> EastDalls: Thank you so much. I'll try. :)
[06:29] <EastDallas> Oasa You can search the factoid list
[06:29] <EastDallas> worud: np
[06:32] <hicarbon> It's nice to finally be able to work in linux. <sigh>
[06:33] <rileyp> what logs to look at for suspen d problems?
[06:35] <philipwn> how to see how much HZ is my kernel running at?
[06:35] <lolnic_> how do i make it so that the hibernate button on the menu runs hibernate? (as in from the package you can get from sudo apt-get install hibernate)
[06:36] <kaziem> onetinsoldier, nope there is no tabs where there is 1 remote desktop on each of them.. it's just a rdesktop frontend for configuration etc
[06:37] <racle> Hello, anyone know reason why ssh login is getting slower? so after i put my username to ssh, it takes over 10 seconds to get input my password. usually that happens after 20+ days uptime. running ubuntu server 2009
[06:37] <onetinsoldier> kaziem: roger. sorry
[06:37] <kaziem> thanks anywasy
[06:39] <Barridus> is firefox 3.6 on the repo's, i can't seem to find it but i may be looking incorrectly
[06:39] <Barridus> ?*
[06:39] <bastid_raZor> Barridus: no 3.6 is not in the repo and will not be for karmic.
[06:39] <Barridus> not even as shiretoko or a-browser?
[06:40] <hiexpo> EastDallas: - is that a command to get bot to give answers
[06:43] <Barridus> bastid_raZor, not even as shiretoko or a-browser?
[06:45] <Leonardo_the_Pac> ello...
[06:46] <Leonardo_the_Pac> anyone?
[06:46] <sachin6870> yes....
[06:46] <Leonardo_the_Pac> hi.
[06:46] <sachin6870> whats up
[06:46] <SE7> nothin much, you?
[06:46] <sachin6870> same.
[06:46] <SE7> sweet what time is it?
[06:47] <sachin6870> 12:17 PM IST
[06:47] <vinq1> Anyone know how to cache a homepage, and only a homepage, on Apache? It's an .htaccess config question.
[06:48] <SE7> woha.. really? its 11:48 pm here..
[06:48] <SE7> how is this possible lol
[06:51] <sachin6870> I dont know, might be your clock is running behind
[06:51] <sachin6870> :)
[06:52] <przemo_one> hi guys/ question about firefox3.6
[06:52] <przemo_one> do we expect that in repository? for 64bit platform?
[06:52] <SE7> sachin6870: i dun think so man.. all my clocks are set to 11:52...
[06:53] <przemo_one> will that be an update for 3.5.x or new branch?
[06:54] <yipstar> is this the appropriate place to ask questions about how to setup kvm vm's on ubuntu?
[06:54] <yipstar> #kvm is a ghost town
[06:54] <Quan-Time> bioshock, steam, wine... anyone got ideas / experience ? it shows splash. and stops. anyone experience this ?
[06:55] <ruffus910> i can no longer hear sound from videos in firefox. please help.
[06:56] <Quan-Time> ruffus910: i get that sometimes too,, shut everything down, anythingthat uses sounds,, and it comes back..
[06:56] <Quan-Time> sometimes 2 younoob videos screws it..i put it down to flash problems..
[06:57] <ruffus910> it just all of a sudden stopped working :-)
[06:57] <ruffus910> i downloaded some limewire songs, then it broke
[06:57] <ruffus910> could that be it?
[06:57] <Quan-Time> quite possibly.. what media player ?
[06:58] <Quan-Time> maybe try to kill anything thats relating to it
[06:58] <ruffus910> vlc
[06:59] <ruffus910> Quan-Time: fixed. thank you
[06:59] <Quan-Time> ruffus910: yer. same.. umm.. as much as everyone says "you never have to reboot linux".. you owuld be surprised how many things it can fix..
[06:59] <Quan-Time> ruffus910: np.. glad it worked !
[06:59] <ruffus910> :-)
[06:59] <Quan-Time> now fix my wine issue !
[07:00] <ruffus910> maybe, whats the problem
[07:03] <bullgard> What is the filename of the source code file of the ALSA driver /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko? What DEB program package does it include?
[07:03] <Quan-Time> ruffus910: bioshock (steam) on wine.. isntalled it fine.. went to play, installed dx10, and now it only loads the splash screen.. wine config i already use ALSA drivers, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17740
[07:03] <firestrider> hey is there an equivalent to resource monitor, event viewer, device manager, and registry in ubuntu
[07:03] <Quan-Time> that link says to mess around with alsa, BUT i dont have that dhirectory to begin with... no sure what action to take.. as everyone says it just works.. :(
[07:04] <bullgard> firestrider: About registry: Have a look at gconf.
[07:04] <ruffus910> Quan-Time: ah. sorry. i got nothing
[07:05] <przemo_one> never mind. loading mozilla daily
[07:05] <bullgard> firestrider: Ubuntu's device manager is udev.
[07:05] <Quan-Time> ruffus910: heh. no one does :( its annoying
[07:05] <firestrider> ok thanks bullgard
[07:05] <rww> Hi. I don't use my Caps Lock key and want it to map to Escape instead. How do I do that?
[07:06] <Quan-Time> rww: wow.. umm. macro maybe
[07:06] <Differentkindof> I had a question with regards to porting to arm
[07:06] <bullgard> firestrider: What do you mean by "resource monitor"?
[07:07] <przemo_one> aperantly 3.6 is an update for 3.5 /// never mind :)
[07:08] <firestrider> resource monitor program in windows vista and 7
[07:08] <jobbie> hello all
[07:08] <bullgard> rww: Try http://www.columbia.edu/~djv/docs/keyremap.html
[07:08] <jobbie> so my system has 2 drives, one for / and one for /home
[07:08] <firestrider> it's like task manager but shows much more details
[07:08] <jobbie> the drive with my home partition is failing and i'd like to replace it with another drive
[07:09] <bullgard> firestrider: I did not ask you where "resource monitor" is but what it is.
[07:09] <firestrider> and you can drill down by process to see it's disk io, network io, and memory faults
[07:10] <jobbie> whats the best way to swap drives ... with my /home on the new drive of course.
[07:10] <bullgard> firestrider: This is a busy channel. If you talk to me, please prepend your message with my nick.
[07:11] <firestrider> bullgard, it's like task manager but more detailed and granular
[07:14] <firestrider> bullgard also does ubuntu prefetch ram for applications?
[07:14] <Quan-Time> hey, trying to get bioshock (steam ver) workin on WINE 1.1.36 - ubuntu karmic 9.10 x64, i looked here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17740 and i have the problem of only getting a splash screen.. I also use ALSA for sound, so the suggestion isnt relevant to me.. anyone with idheas ?
[07:14] <panfist> is there something similar to rdiff-backup that's supported by ubuntu?
[07:15] <bullgard> firestrider: For an equivalent to resource monitor in Ubuntu, click System > Administration > System monitor.
[07:16] <bullgard> firestrider: Yes, In some cases Ubuntu does prefetch RAM for applications.
[07:20] <mishi> momma
[07:20] <brand0n> anyone have any idea why sometimes when i login the screen goes white
[07:20] <brand0n> and all i can see is the cursor
[07:20] <brand0n> usually only happens if my girlfriend logs in first
[07:21] <ranjan> hello very body is here any body who knows how to write in hindi
[07:21] <rumpsy> Ask your girlfriend what she did before you login
[07:21] <brand0n> she doesnt do anything
[07:22] <brand0n> like when i reboot i log us both in
[07:22] <rumpsy> ranjan:What you exactly need
[07:22] <brand0n> sometimes i log her in first
[07:22] <brand0n> and thats when it happens on my side, if i log her in first
[07:22] <jlauxetta> I sometimes log my girlfriend in too :D
[07:23] <c2d2> I wish to completely purge/remove/uninstall flash.
[07:23] <rumpsy> Avoid using more stuffs in desktop, use automatic screen resolution
[07:23] <c2d2> It is broken and I whish to repair it.  Suggestions?
[07:24] <ranjan> rumpsy : i am trying to write some contain in hindi but i am facing problem in writing words which includes half cracters  in devnagri script
[07:25] <rumpsy> brand0n: yes, don't put bunch of files and folders on desktop... clean it if you have, put those in documents or somewhere else
[07:25] <brand0n> i have 3 folders and 2 shortcuts
[07:25] <brand0n> on my desktop
[07:25] <brand0n> hers has like 5 folders and 4 shortcuts
[07:25] <brand0n> hardly a bunch
[07:26] <rumpsy> ranjan: goto accessories and use character map tool
[07:26] <bullgard> brand0n: Your computer's configuration is at fault. You need to provide error messages in order that a knowledgeable person can suggest a remedy. I believe that you should obtain the help of local knowledgeable friend.
[07:26] <MiBo> brand0n: Ive had the same problem
[07:27] <brand0n> i get no error messages when it happens bullgard, the screen just turns white and all i can see is my cursor
[07:27] <brand0n> i press shift + ctrl + f1 to go to shell
[07:27] <brand0n> and then reboot
[07:27] <brand0n> and it usually fixes it
[07:27] <brand0n> sometimes it does it twice in a row
[07:27] <FloodBot1> brand0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <brand0n> oh god
[07:27] <brand0n> sorry floodbot1, didnt mean to fill the channel with questions about ubuntu
[07:27] <bullgard> brand0n: I believe you. But the computer certainly will throw error messages in the /var/log/ directory.
[07:28] <brand0n> ok bullgard ill see what i can dig up, thank you
[07:28] <brand0n> which log file would it be in bullgard
[07:28] <brand0n> the xorg one?
[07:28] <MiBo> brand0n: I think it's a gdm problem
[07:28] <brand0n> did you ever fix it mibo? or do you just try to deal with it
[07:29] <cmmenke> im using vobcopy, and the i ripped "vobcopy -i -m /dir/dir
[07:29] <cmmenke> and it is literally taking a small century
[07:29] <MiBo> I never directly fixed it
[07:29] <brand0n> lol
[07:29] <cmmenke> Writing to /home/chas/PACIFIC_HEIGHTS/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
[07:29] <cmmenke>   26MB of 1024MB written ( 2.5 % )
[07:29] <cmmenke> in about 2 hours, any fix?
[07:29] <brand0n> i mean it doesnt happen that often, id just like to fix it or atleast know what causes it
[07:30] <zilkomaa> Can someone help me whats the problem, trying to boot windows xp from grub after pressing enter there comes a screen only reading GRUB_ blinking?
[07:30] <bullgard> brand0n: I do not know exactly because you did not describe your situation exactly. Try first the file /var/log/messages and look up the time when you got the white screen.
[07:30] <brand0n> also sound randomly goes out in flash, anyone ever deal with that problem?
[07:30] <cmmenke> no one knows?
[07:30] <bullgard> !sound | brandon
[07:31] <bullgard> !sound | brand0n
[07:31] <rumpsy> !video | brand0n
[07:31] <RaiN88> hi
[07:31] <RaiN88> hi everyone
[07:31] <RaiN88> I need some help
[07:31] <cmmenke> anybody know what this means with my external drive? Sorry, could not display all the contents of "FreeAgent Drive_": Input/output error
[07:32] <RaiN88> I'm new on ubuntu
[07:32] <tavasti> !ask | RaiN88
[07:32] <RaiN88> okay
[07:32] <rumpsy> RaiN88: So, typein your problem
[07:32] <bullgard> What is the filename of the source code file of the ALSA driver /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko? What DEB program package does it include?
[07:32] <RaiN88> My ubuntu wont restart
[07:32] <RaiN88> It stuck on black screen
[07:33] <rumpsy> What ubuntu you are using
[07:33] <mishi> I just fixed that
[07:33] <RaiN88> 9.10
[07:33] <RaiN88> the new version
[07:33] <sergfclcgf> linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux
[07:33] <sergfclcgf> sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks linux sucks
[07:33] <FloodBot1> sergfclcgf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <hyperstream> lol
[07:33] <brand0n> lol?
[07:33] <mishi> I had a video card issue
[07:34] <RaiN88> What will I do ?
[07:34] <hyperstream> How can i tell what version of apache my box downstairs is running from my lan ?(no sshd)
[07:34] <Myke1> lol looks like someone doesnt know how to use Linux... haha
[07:34] <mishi> I had to install the nvidia package before it would let me go to gnome
[07:34] <alexidoia> hi there, my system have crashed and I am trying to do back up. For this I am trying to mount a usb key via the command line
[07:34] <rumpsy> sergfclcgf: i think you don't want a kick from this channel
[07:34] <pehden> apache virtual host help anyone
[07:34] <alexidoia> could someone telle me how to do that ?
[07:34] <alexidoia> I think I did it once, by-uuud
[07:34] <pehden> http://pehden.net
[07:34] <rumpsy> pehden: try man apache, or goto #apache
[07:34] <pehden> http://pehden.net/vhost.conf
[07:35] <zilkomaa> Can someone help me whats the problem, trying to boot windows xp from grub after pressing enter there comes a screen only reading GRUB_ blinking?
[07:35] <RaiN88> I already installed it
[07:35] <pehden> sorry bout the links but the seond one is the conf and i cant figure out why its not showing the right directory
[07:36] <RaiN88> but when I try to restart, it process then it stuck on a black screen
[07:36] <pehden> #apache2
[07:36] <RaiN88> What version of Ubuntu is the best??
[07:37] <adet> hyay..........
[07:37] <ranjan> rumpsy : i got it for the time being ... i think i have to work with this for couple of days so that i can make my self more familiar with this ... thanks for your help
[07:37] <pehden> it said i needed to register to join that channel
[07:37] <rumpsy> RaiN88: 9.10 also god
[07:37] <rumpsy> ranjan: you are welcome
[07:38] <rumpsy> s/god/good
[07:38] <rumpsy> ;)  , lol
[07:38] <RaiN88> It has more bug I think
[07:38] <RaiN88> Because When it wont restart my system
[07:38] <rumpsy> Updates are there to fix bugs
[07:38] <RaiN88> :((
[07:38] <pehden> um
[07:39] <pehden> how do i register to join #apache
[07:39] <RaiN88> Which is better Ubuntu or Kubuntu ??
[07:39] <Pici> !register
[07:39] <pehden> thanks
[07:39] <Quan-Time> anyone who has a elantech touch pad which WONT identify, and cant install touch pad drivers.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/512192
[07:39] <pehden> i cant beleave i forgot that
[07:39] <MiBo> Kubuntu
[07:40] <Quan-Time> PLEASE go to that link and click "effects me"... we really need this resolved.
[07:40] <brand0n> gnome display manager - thats the login screen right? i see gdm-themes package in synaptic, anyone ever change the default theme?
[07:42] <bullgard> brand0n: "GNOME Display Manager (GDM) is GNOME's login manager."
[07:42] <rumpsy> break, i want coffee,
[07:42] <RaiN88> how to fix the bugz in ubuntu?
[07:42] <brand0n> does the latest one support theme changes? i noticed there isnt any to choose from to change like there was in jaunty
[07:42] <brand0n> what bugs rain
[07:43] <d4m0nm> can any1 help me connect to my win7 box via dyn dns from ubuntu?
[07:43] <d4m0nm> lol
[07:43] <RaiN88> It wont restart
[07:43] <rumpsy> brand0n: new wave theme really rocks, have a try
[07:43] <d4m0nm> fells green
[07:43] <d4m0nm> feels
[07:43] <bullgard> brand0n: You are a beginner. Please do not change the default theme. Please target first at completing your general Ubuntu usage skills before you start this endeavor.
[07:43] <RaiN88> where can I get themes??
[07:43] <tomkat> ubuntu won't find drivers for my 3d card
[07:43] <brand0n> im not a beginner lol
[07:44] <brand0n> ive used ubuntu for like 9 months
[07:44] <RaiN88> I am beginner
[07:44] <RaiN88> I need some help
[07:44] <pehden> !register
[07:44] <brand0n> i was just wondering if there was a reason why you could select themes in 9.04 but not in 9.10, didnt know if it didnt support it anymore or what
[07:44] <RaiN88> How to fix all the bugs that I will encounter?
[07:45] <brand0n> you gotta be way more specific rain
[07:45] <brand0n> and your english being terrible doesnt help
[07:45] <tomkat> can someone please help me with my 3d graphics card?
[07:45] <RaiN88> the restart bugs
[07:45] <brand0n> what happens when you restart rain
[07:46] <rumpsy> brand0n: do you know his exact nick,its not rain
[07:46] <bullgard> brand0n: Yes, there is much work going on on this program and a lot of controversial discussion taking place. Join gimpnet and there #gdm in order to follow the discussion.
[07:46] <RaiN88> When I rrestart, it stuck with black screen
[07:46] <tomkat> why won't Ubuntu find drivers for my 3dfx card?
[07:46] <brand0n> Rain88
[07:46] <brand0n> ?
[07:46] <brand0n> is there text on the black screen rain88
[07:46] <brand0n> does it show ubuntu logo at all?
[07:46] <RaiN88> no
[07:46] <RaiN88> not at all
[07:47] <RaiN88> just a black screen
[07:47] <RaiN88> ....
[07:48] <RaiN88> ???
[07:48] <bluewhale> hi, just installed ubuntu 9.10, and using twinview with nvidia drivers. How can I prevent the task bars spanning both screens, this is very annoying
[07:48] <wenko> Hey folks
[07:49] <wenko> anyone familair with this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:49] <wenko> libssl0.9.8 seems to be the culprit
[07:49] <rumpsy> RaiN88: Just tell us errors you see in /var/logs
[07:49] <rumpsy> somebody may help you
[07:50] <RaiN88> How would I know?
[07:51] <mkquist__> !beginner
[07:51] <zilkomaa> can some1 tell me whats the problem trying to boot from grub to windows xp not giving any error messages only comes screen where reads GRUB_ ?
[07:51] <mkquist__> !new
[07:51] <zilkomaa> Cant find any solution from web either..
[07:51] <rumpsy> RaiN88: ^^
[07:52] <RaiN88> How would I know? :(
[07:52] <wenko> anyone familair with this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:52] <BinaryMan> I know its late so a lot of people are idling. however, would anyone still alive have any guesses why the cryptroot file stored in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d suddenly disappear?
[07:53] <RaiN88> How will I see errors in /var/logs?
[07:53] <Myrtti> RaiN88: you could try to boot to the recovery mode
[07:53] <BinaryMan> alongside that, why would cryptsetup suddenly have a problem with the libgpg-error.so.0 library, causing the user to reinstall the libgpg-error package
[07:54] <BinaryMan> this is a problem i had about a week ago that i ended up solving, but never found out why everything regarding cryptsetup commited suicide on me.
[07:54] <rumpsy> RaiN88: each and every error will be logged in /var/logs so open it and check it
[07:55] <mkquist__> RaiN88: relax, it can be figured out, but not like what you are doing...  take your time and analyze...  but most of all relax.. geeze.  Usually its something simple, but it takes some problem solving.  Getting wound up wont solve anything
[07:55] <RaiN88> What if we'll use remote desktop?
[07:55] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: what is the problem you're having?
[07:56] <RaiN88> It wont restart, It stuck in black screen
[07:57] <BinaryMan> define it. One of your machines?
[07:57] <RaiN88> Myrtt: then what will I do?
[07:57] <Myrtti> RaiN88: check /var/logs
[07:57] <mkquist__> looking back, I'm guessing that, for whatever reason, grub is looking at the wrong place, so start there.  assuming you go ubuntu to install
[07:57] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: I'm willing to help you with your problem. you have to answer my questions though.
[07:57] <rumpsy> RaiN88: Explain clearly, what happen , what you did...
[07:57] <mkquist__> RaiN88: listen to BinaryMan
[07:58] <RaiN88> Okay
[07:58] <mkquist__> RaiN88: or rumpsy
[07:58] <BinaryMan> and /var/logs does not exist. what i believe Myrtti is referring to is a folder called /var/log, which holds logs about a variety of different services.
[07:58] <BinaryMan> once you can tell me more about your problem, i'll have a better idea of which log to look at.
[07:58] <RaiN88> I see a lot of logs here
[07:58] <BinaryMan> which will more than liketly tell us more information that can be used to diagnose your problem.
[07:58] <pehden> its pissing me off
[07:59] <brand0n> how do i assign sounds to actions? the sound gui in preferences only lets me select themes
[07:59] <pehden> does any one here know how to configure vhost in apache
[07:59] <brand0n> or do i gotta assign each action manually?
[07:59] <RaiN88> When I restart it process then stuck in black screen, then nothing happens ..
[07:59] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: That's normal. is your only problem centered around rebooting?
[07:59] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: or are you having problems booting into your system as well?
[08:00] <RaiN88> maybe..
[08:00] <pehden> apache room says must regiter i register and it still wont let me in
[08:00] <rumpsy> rain88: there is another option to check system log, goto system, and then to administration and choose system log
[08:00]  * BinaryMan sighs
[08:00] <RaiN88> Okay rumpsy
[08:00] <BinaryMan> I can't help the guy if he won't give more information.
[08:01] <Myrtti> pehden: you've registered, and identified?f
[08:01] <Myke1> Hey I have a Question about Dual booting... If I have Windows Xp and Ubuntu 9.10 installed, If I upgrade 9.10 to  10.04 when it comes out, will that affect the Grub Bootloader?
[08:02] <pehden> im running apache2 its server 2 virtual host but one of the vhost its showing the wrong directory as the output
[08:02] <Pici> pehden: You need to verify  your account by checking the email that you used when you registered.
[08:02] <pehden> identify how
[08:02] <pehden> ok
[08:02] <BinaryMan> Myke1: I can't say for sure, but I'm going to imagine that current bootloader entries will be preserved when upgrading.
[08:02] <dopple> could someone assist.. i downloaded a winxp iso and burned it but its not bootable.. how can i make a bootable USB drive from ubuntu that i can boot from to install windows as a dualboot
[08:03] <RaiN88> I didn't see the system log, only system testing and system monitor
[08:03] <Myke1> I was thinking it would be ok too, it would just give me the choice of 10.04 instead of 9.10 after upgrading
[08:03] <pehden> ok i did that irc thing how do i login
[08:04] <BinaryMan> dopple: if you're inside ubuntu right now, system -> administration -> USB startup disk creator.
[08:04] <Myrtti> pehden: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[08:04] <BinaryMan> pehden: assuming you've registered your nick
[08:04] <RaiN88> BinaryMan what will I do? :(
[08:05] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: you need to listen to us and give us clear responses.
[08:05] <BinaryMan> I can't help you if you don't answer the questions I ask you.
[08:05] <RaiN88> Okay
[08:05] <RaiN88> I will
[08:05] <BinaryMan> Let's try this again.
[08:05] <dopple> BinaryMan: but will booting from the disk that that creates allow me to install windows from this apparently-unbootable cd i burned?
[08:06] <BinaryMan> dopple: shouldn't have downloaded a windows iso off the internet. :P
[08:06] <RaiN88> Okay BinaryMan
[08:06] <RaiN88> I will
[08:06] <RaiN88> Just tell me what to do?
[08:06] <dopple> BinaryMan:  :P
[08:06] <pehden> how do i know i am in the room
[08:06] <pehden> of apache
[08:06] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: You said that when you reboot, you have a black screen and your computer sits there. is that your only problem.
[08:06] <RaiN88> Yeah
[08:06] <BinaryMan> alright
[08:07] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: do you have any problems booting into your system?
[08:07] <RaiN88> Dont have
[08:07] <pehden> wait i think i found that part out
[08:07] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: Are you booted into your system right now?
[08:07] <pehden> pici:thanks
[08:07] <RaiN88> Yes
[08:07] <pehden> binaryman:thanks
[08:07] <RaiN88> I have two OS
[08:08] <RaiN88> XP and Ubuntu
[08:08] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: Alright. That shouldn't be a problem.
[08:08] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: Go to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal.
[08:08] <RaiN88> Okay
[08:08] <RaiN88> I am here
[08:08] <pehden> any one here?
[08:08] <james__> nope.
[08:08] <pehden> damn
[08:08] <dopple> ok this isnt gonna work i apparently need to find a bootable disc
[08:09] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: type in the following command.
[08:09] <pehden> the bot wasnt in here
[08:09] <pehden> bots
[08:09] <pehden> nope
[08:09] <pehden> lol
[08:09] <BinaryMan> tail /var/log/dmesg
[08:09] <pehden> do it in apache its kind of funny
[08:09] <rumpsy> pehden: is also a bot kind
[08:09] <BinaryMan> Tell me if you see anything that looks like an error.
[08:09] <dopple> figures the iso i downloaded wasnt bootable
[08:10] <cmmenke> anyone know why my external harddrive is a ho? and gives me some weird input/output message
[08:10] <pehden> rumpsy: im not a bot
[08:10] <Explore1> i am not seeing file at dest using scp
[08:10] <Explore1> any idea?
[08:10] <cmmenke> and why vobcopy is taking 2 days literally for a rip
[08:10] <rumpsy> RaiN88: BinaryMan , told  you to use, this command, /var/log/dmesg
[08:10] <RaiN88> no
[08:10] <Explore1> scp newVR fstl@192.168.1.20
[08:10] <g0tcha> hey guys.. anyone can help me mount a RAID harddisk to ubuntu to recover some data?
[08:10] <Explore1> this doesn't ask me for password
[08:10] <RaiN88> I didnt see an error
[08:10] <pehden> rumpsy i wasy seeing if the bot in here had the same trigger word
[08:11] <BinaryMan> rumpsy: No, I didn't.
[08:11] <BinaryMan> rumpsy: I told him to use "tail /var/log/dmesg"
[08:11] <BinaryMan> typing in the file path will return an error.
[08:11] <RaiN88> yeah
[08:12] <RaiN88> Is it okay that I have two generic and two recovery mode?
[08:12] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: Yup.
[08:12] <tomkat> is there a support group for VIA/SVG UniChrome Pro IGP 3dfx cards?
[08:12] <andruk> how do i change karmic's boot splash image?
[08:12] <rumpsy> BinaryMan: yes, i was just informing him, you given a info to him
[08:12] <evilsherpa> hey all, i have a nas, and i think im most of the way there, but when i sudo mount -a now it says mount error(13): Permission denied Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) but permissions should be all good
[08:13] <BinaryMan> tomkat: not that i'm aware of. why, are you having problems getting your unichrome video card to work?
[08:13] <rumpsy> but, yes i missed a tail, lol
[08:13] <RaiN88> Why is it two?
[08:14] <przemo_one> hiffy, how to force install package from repository??
[08:14] <tomkat> binaryman: yes.
[08:14] <przemo_one> hi guys :)
[08:14] <RaiN88> and I has two memtest
[08:14] <BinaryMan> RaiN88: for the different kernels you have on your machine
[08:14] <firestrider> hey guys how can I install you ubuntu in virtualbox and will the install be nonpersistant and see my native hardware?
[08:14] <BinaryMan> tomkat: I had the same problem on an old Averatech laptop. give me like 5 minutes and i'll try finding the solution that worked for me.
[08:14] <tomkat> binaryman: thankyou
[08:14] <firestrider> or do I need a processor with hardware virtualization
[08:15] <RaiN88> Where should I go, First one or the 2nd ?
[08:15] <BinaryMan> tomkat: fyi, it's a problem with the driver. you'll have to manually patch it.
[08:15] <tomkat> binaryman: im new to linux
[08:15] <przemo_one> firestrider if you have one, then it helps, but it's not requaired. works slow on one that does not have.
[08:15] <ehlim1> hi all, may i know can ubuntu handles 2 or more connections at once?
[08:16] <przemo_one> haw to force install java plugin, when its different version form java bin??
[08:16] <BinaryMan> tomkat: i had been using linux for awhile when i started using the laptop, so i was able to figure it out.
[08:16] <tentaclemoose> is there a netbook remix specific channel?
[08:17] <firestrider> I want the full ubuntu experience with gpu accel video ... guess I can't do that with a virtual machine
[08:18] <przemo_one> anyone can help??
[08:18] <Myrtti> przemo_one: use update-alternatives --all to choose the version of different stuff
[08:18] <tentaclemoose> how does one add new places to the place menu?
[08:19] <tentaclemoose> on netbook remix that is
[08:19] <przemo_one> thanx will try
[08:19] <andruk> ehlim1: do you mean two network connections?
[08:19] <ardchoille> tentaclemoose: you can try adding bookmarks to ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[08:19] <Eremite> tentaclemoose, right click on your menu (before expanding it) and choose edit menues
[08:19] <ardchoille> tentaclemoose: That's how it's done in the desktop version
[08:20] <tentaclemoose> bah, can't do that with the ume desktop thingamajigger
[08:20] <iflema>  tentaclemoose open nautilus and drap what you want into the lower left pane....
[08:20] <ardchoille> tentaclemoose: the entries take the form:  file:///path/folder
[08:20] <tentaclemoose> gotcha
[08:20] <Eremite> tentaclemoose, read what I said, Its simple.
[08:20] <firestrider> this is probably a silly question but can you boot ubuntu on a liveusb then do a full install on that same usb drive
[08:20] <ardchoille> Eremite: the menu editor doesn't allow changing the Places menu item
[08:21]  * iflema :)
[08:21] <Eremite> ardchoille, yes it does.  i just did it
[08:21] <tentaclemoose> eremite's method worked
[08:21] <tentaclemoose> perfectly i might add
[08:21] <ardchoille> iflema: that method adds new bookmarks to ~/.gtk-bookmarks.. which is what I suggested
[08:21] <BinaryMan> tomkat: having problems finding the fix for the driver. bear with me
[08:21] <rileyp> when opening vlc or mythtv video or live tv i get loud boom from surround sound
[08:21] <iflema> ardchoille: and
[08:21] <Eremite> rileyp, I get that too.  It sounds like its about to blow my speakers.  New since Karmic.
[08:22] <ardchoille> Eremite: then you need to write us a tutorial because chaning the "Places" menu item via the menu editor isn't possible
[08:22] <firestrider> if not is there a way to get full install of ubuntu on a usb drive from within windows
[08:22] <iflema> ardchoille: that's when there's too many
[08:22] <l2tponlinux> hi everybody
[08:22] <rumpsy> RaiN88: what kernels you see there?
[08:22] <Eremite> ardchoille, how did 2 of us just do it if it doesnt work.  Get real.
[08:22] <tentaclemoose> is there any way to get the central menu of ume to function as a file browser?
[08:22] <rumpsy> RaiN88: choose to one comes with ubuntu 9.10
[08:23] <mobius2> is there a way to turn off or disable the "default web page for this server"  content that  my ubuntu appears to be serving on port 80 of my machine?
[08:23] <przemo_one> Martti my problem is i have installed java 6 bin higher versin then plugin is in repo. so when i try to install plugin i have version mismatch
[08:23] <l2tponlinux> how to connect to a l2tp vpn server? i'm trying to migrate from winxp
[08:23] <mobius2> I do not remember starting a web server
[08:23] <mobius2> XD
[08:23] <rileyp> how do I fix it?
[08:23] <RaiN88> rumpsy
[08:23] <ardchoille> Eremite: Please see my pm
[08:24] <kanzie> what user do you recommend I create new directories in /var/www for website as
[08:24] <RaiN88> where can I see it?
[08:24] <Callum_> Okay, so, my problem: My web server's website is only accessible by direct IP on the network... 1) I have ports 80 and 443 forwarded to my server, 2) I changed my router config page's port so it doesn't use port 80, 3) port 80 is DEFINITELY not blocked, as I connected to my internet IP and got the router's config settings page fine before I changed it's port...but I STILL cannot access my web server, not connecting at all, get a "can't establish connecti
[08:24] <Callum_> on" error...anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[08:24] <EastDallas> mobius2: remove apache
[08:24] <mobius2> apache not installed so not removed
[08:24] <rumpsy> RaiN88: during startup, in the grub menu
[08:24] <RaiN88> wait I will reboot
[08:24] <mobius2> apache2 not installed so not removed
[08:25] <mobius2> lsof shows  nothing about any webserver
[08:25] <EastDallas> mobius2: Well, you obviously have some sort of web server installed, but you don't know which?
[08:25] <przemo_one> is there any wey to clean repos cache and force update from scratch??
[08:25] <RaiN88> Is it okay that I can't restart?
[08:25] <mobius2> no and I am quite surprised
[08:25] <Myke1> How do you change the startup sound in Ubuntu 9.10
[08:26] <mrp> how do i set ufw to log to a seperate file?
[08:26] <mobius2> apparently the problem started with the accidental installation of a program called "webcam"
[08:26] <Eremite> Myke1, right clcik on the sound icon in your task bar, choose preferences
[08:26] <mobius2> that installed it's whole new set of webserver daemons
[08:26] <RaiN88> rumpsy
[08:26] <RaiN88> ?
[08:27] <mobius2> horrible program with busted removes
[08:27] <RaiN88> Is it normal that my system can't restart?
[08:27] <rumpsy> shutdown and start your system again, and in the grub menu choose default kernel to boot
[08:27] <rumpsy> RaiN88: ^^
[08:27] <tomkat> binaryman: no problems, take your time
[08:28] <Myke1> @Eremite it just has sound effects/hardware/input/output and applications
[08:28] <l2tponlinux> how to connect to a l2tp vpn server?
[08:28] <Eremite> Sound Preferences > Sond Effects > Sound Theme
[08:28] <Eremite> Myke1, Sound Preferences > Sound Effects > Sound Theme
[08:29] <kanzie> how can I change the default eitor of crontab
[08:29] <przemo_one> got it :)
[08:29] <BinaryMan> tomkat: do you have the errors xorg is spitting back at you? i don't have a hard drive in the laptop that has the unichrome video card in ot, so i can't go and check.
[08:29] <glick> hey is there any way i can count pixels on my screen?
[08:29] <BinaryMan> there was something specific that i searched for on google and found a forum post that had a solution.
[08:30] <EastDallas> mobius2: did you install the webcam-server package?
[08:30] <butterycroissant> glick, magnifying glass + pen/paper
[08:30] <Myke1> @Eremite there is just ubuntu, but no way to change it
[08:30] <EastDallas> !info webcam-server
[08:30] <kanzie> How can I change the default editor for crontab cause right now it is something that cant be used by a human
[08:30] <tomkat> BinaryMan: I havent encountered any error messages.
[08:30] <Eremite> glick, In a terminal type:  xdpyinfo  | grep 'dimensions:'
[08:31] <glick> Eremite, heh actually i wanted to count the pixels of a line in my browser
[08:31] <BinaryMan> tomkat: at the command line prompt the livecd drops you into, run the command "startx" without the quotecs.
[08:31] <EastDallas> mobius2: did you install the webcam-server package?
[08:31] <ardchoille> kanzie: run this in a terminal: /usr/bin/select-editor
[08:31] <rumpsy> s/quotecs/quotes
[08:32] <tomkat> binaryman: sudo startx in the terminal?
[08:32] <rileyp>  xdpyinfo  | grep 'dimensions:'            is this for me
[08:32] <BinaryMan> tomkat: yeah
[08:32] <l2tponlinux> ANYONE USING OPENL2TP??
[08:32] <BinaryMan> forgot that you need to run that as sudo
[08:32] <Eremite> glick, take a screenshot and drag the image to gimp.  Measure it.
[08:32] <butterycroissant> glick, you could take a screenshot, crop
[08:32] <butterycroissant> and yeah
[08:32] <rileyp> ahh glick sorry
[08:32] <butterycroissant> what eremite said
[08:32]  * Eremite is a genius. 
[08:32] <butterycroissant> it's true
[08:33]  * butterycroissant is a fantastic breakfast treat.
[08:33] <Eremite> I dont disagree.
[08:33] <tomkat> binaryman: hmm. error message. can i paste this into a private message for you to see?
[08:33] <butterycroissant> paste bin it
[08:33] <butterycroissant> *pastebin
[08:33] <ardchoille> Eremite: PM?
[08:33] <tomkat> pastebin?
[08:33] <ardchoille> !paste
[08:33] <butterycroissant> so that the vast collective can debug for you
[08:34] <tomkat> !paste
[08:34] <BinaryMan> tomkat: personally, i like pastey.net
[08:34] <massimo_> !list
[08:35] <homeboy> hi, how can i make so that when i launch app from menu, it will prompt for a passwork
[08:35] <homeboy> *password
[08:36] <butterycroissant> change the permissions on it
[08:36] <BinaryMan> homeboy: Do you want to run the program as root?
[08:36] <EastDallas> homeboy: is it prompting for the admin password?  Or some other wallet like kdewallet?
[08:36] <homeboy> i want to run it as user,but so it will promp for example root password
[08:37] <tomkat> binaryman: http://www.pastey.net/131885
[08:37]  * EastDallas misread homeboy's question...
[08:37] <BinaryMan> homeboy: append 'gksu -u <user>' to the entry.
[08:38] <BinaryMan> homeboy: for example, gksu -u homeboy nautilus
[08:38] <ardchoille> BinaryMan: he wants to run it as "user" but prompt for roots password.. which I don't quite understand
[08:38] <homeboy> ty, i was playing with that, but didn't know the exact synopsis
[08:38] <BinaryMan> ardchoille: neither do i. gksu is the best thing i an think of
[08:38] <ardchoille> BinaryMan: yeayh
[08:38] <SmartSsa> I also don't think gksu will ask for a password if '-u user' matches the already logged in user.
[08:38] <BinaryMan> tomkat: wow, you don't really have much of a problem.
[08:39] <BinaryMan> tomkat: try hitting ctrl + alt + F7.
[08:39] <Jck_true> Allright so I need to read a file on the shell and strip everything from CCC:START till CCC.END
[08:39] <butterycroissant> wait, what?
[08:40] <tomkat> binaryman: nothing happens
[08:40] <BinaryMan> hrm
[08:40] <rumpsy> Jck_true: try nano
[08:40] <Jck_true> I'm modifying a settings file and I need a shellscript for adding the settings and for removeing them again
[08:40] <BinaryMan> try this then
[08:40] <BinaryMan> press ctrl + alt + F1
[08:40] <Jck_true> Therefor i wrap them in #CCC:START  and #CCC:END
[08:40] <BinaryMan> then sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock
[08:41] <BinaryMan> and type in sudo startx again
[08:41] <BinaryMan> actually, wait
[08:41] <BinaryMan> before you rm the lock file
[08:41] <rileyp> EastDallas this only partially fixed problem Its no longer doing it when i change channel but when i close myth and open vlc
[08:41] <user_> Hello , i installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my machine . later i installed Windows 7 (in order to use some graphic software) and now when i start the computer i can see the grub menu , can i restore/fix the Ubuntu boot or i should installed ubuntu from the start ?
[08:41] <BinaryMan> type in ps aux | grep X
[08:42] <pat|nG> do i need to format if i'll change my kde to gnome!?
[08:42] <BinaryMan> user_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:42] <SmartSsa> Jck_true, you may want to look at 'sed' for inline text replacement
[08:42] <Jck_true> SmartSsa: I'll have a look
[08:42] <butterycroissant> user_ did you install windows 7 on a different partition?
[08:43] <user_> butterycroissant: yes
[08:43] <butterycroissant> ok, so what's the problem?
[08:44] <mrjaxon> Hey people :-) does anyone know of a good linuxvideo? I mean for learning. I've seen something called Linux+ and that was really helpful.
[08:47] <jumbers> Is there a way for me to block SSH logins from a certain block of IP addresses?
[08:48] <tomkat> binaryman: what does ps aux and grep x do?
[08:49] <Guest67722> Hi
[08:49] <Guest67722> Im back
[08:49] <Guest67722> rumpsy
[08:49] <BinaryMan> tomkat: mind you, i'm falling asleep, but ps aux prints all your running proccess, and piping it to grep X will show you only process with X in the name.
[08:49] <Guest67722> are u there?
[08:50] <BinaryMan> thus ps aux | grep X will show you if your X server is running.
[08:50] <rumpsy> so, what happened
[08:50] <Guest67722> GNU Grub version 1.87~beta4
[08:50] <Guest67722> Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31.-17-generic
[08:51] <Guest67722> Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31.-17-generic (recovery mode)
[08:51] <Copter> how can i find the path to jre on the system?
[08:51] <rumpsy> Guest67722: what happened to problem? sloved?
[08:51] <Guest67722> Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31.-14-generic
[08:51] <Guest67722> Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31.-17-generic (recovery mode)
[08:52] <rumpsy> Guest67722: Choose, 2.6.31.14-gegeric
[08:52] <Guest67722> and (memtest+86+)
[08:52] <Guest67722> (memtest, serial console 115200)
[08:52] <rumpsy> s/gegeric/generic
[08:52] <Guest67722> rumpsy have u seen it?
[08:53] <Guest67722> **GNU Grub version 1.97~beta4
[08:53] <rumpsy> i think you installed new kernel
[08:53] <Guest67722> What should I do?
[08:54] <rumpsy> just boot your system, with 2.6.31.14-generic
[08:54] <tomkat> binaryman: when i type grep X the prompt vanishes
[08:54] <Guest67722> why?
[08:54] <Guest67722> why not .17? :D
[08:55] <rumpsy> That one misconfigured
[08:55] <Guest67722> ah okay
[08:55] <Guest67722> I am running now is .17
[08:55] <Guest67722> I am running .17 now
[08:55] <rumpsy> if you want you can remove it from synaptic manager
[08:55] <Guest67722> Okay
[08:55] <Guest67722> I'll do what u say
[08:56] <nixjr> how can i use unrar in terminal, to extract many archives one after another?
[08:56] <ardchoille> nixjr: for i in *.rar; do; unrar $i; done
[08:56] <ardchoille> nixjr: Not sure about the "unrar " command though
[08:57] <Guest67722> BRB i'll change to .14
[08:57] <tomkat> is "ps aux | grep X" one command? if so, how do i input the middle char?
[08:57] <tomkat> the pipe
[08:57] <nixjr> ardchoille, i know "unrar e file.rar" works for one file
[08:57] <ardchoille> nixjr: for i in *.rar; do; unrar e $i; done
[08:58] <tomkat> what is that character in the mioddle of "ps aux | grep X"
[08:58] <ardchoille> pipe
[08:58] <EastDallas> tomkat: it's on the slash key right above enter
[08:58] <nixjr> ardchoille, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[08:58] <tomkat> thanks
[08:59] <pat|nG> do i need to format if i'll change my kde to gnome!?
[08:59] <EastDallas> pat|nG: no
[08:59] <Eremite> pat|nG, no
[08:59] <ardchoille> nixjr: for i in *.rar; do unrar e "$i"; done
[08:59] <andrew_50> nixjr: unrar e $1
[08:59] <ardchoille> nixjr: sorry, typo
[08:59] <EastDallas> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <andrew_50> too slow :)
[09:00] <cairo__> hi
[09:00] <ardchoille> andrew_50: needs to be $i
[09:00] <cairo__> what's better, cron-apt or apticron?
[09:00] <xbuntu> hi
[09:00] <cairo__> i need a script to mail me about package updates
[09:00] <andrew_50> ardchoille: That make me slow and incorrect as well :(
[09:00] <ardchoille> andrew_50: time for coffee?
[09:01] <andrew_50> ardchoille: exactly :)
[09:01] <xbuntu> :D
[09:01] <pat|nG> EastDallas: just doin that? wid out purging my kde?
[09:02] <EastDallas> pat|nG: yep
[09:02] <pat|nG> or do i have to purge and install gnome?
[09:02] <pat|nG> i see
[09:02] <EastDallas> pat|nG: after you install gnome you can choose whether you use kde or gnome when you log in.
[09:02] <EastDallas> pat|nG: under session type
[09:03] <hiexpo> ? how do i get into to my source list i have duplicates in it
[09:03] <trevor> I only have gnome set up to start after a ./gnmoe --replace
[09:03] <Copter> whats the linux equalivent to: set ENVIRONMENT_ID=my-test-beta ?
[09:03] <nixjr> ardchoille, ah much thanks, i have 100+ 300mb archives, didnt feel like doing that manually
[09:03] <ardchoille> nixjr: hehe, understandable
[09:03] <EastDallas> pat|nG: if you want to remove kde completely: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:04] <EastDallas> hiexpo: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <ardchoille> nixjr: in case you're wondering, that is a for loop.. it looks for any file with the .rar extension, unpacks it and goes on to the next one
[09:05] <ardchoille> !gksudo EastDallas hiexpo
[09:05] <hiexpo> EastDallas: - thanks
[09:05] <ardchoille> !gksudo | EastDallas hiexpo
[09:05] <EastDallas> hiexpo: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <Shay521> Hello , i installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my machine and later on i installed Windows 7 on new partition , the boot menu is gone and i want to restore the grub using the restoring manual , but the problem i dont have the Ubuntu 9.10 live cd with me , i have only Ubuntu 8.10 live cd , can i restore the grub using this cd ?
[09:06] <hiexpo> EastDallas: - got it thanks
[09:07] <nixjr> ardchoille, ive written it down so i might adapt it for future uses
[09:07] <Eremite> Shay521, I would assume you could.
[09:07] <RaiN1> Hi
[09:08] <ardchoille> nixjr: Good idea, just change the ".rar" and "unrar e" bits for diff file types
[09:09] <l3ns> hi everyone
[09:09] <butterycroissant> hey buddy!
[09:10] <l3ns> i uninstalled my current gedit using sypnatic and downloaded the newest version which is 2.28. how do i install this new version? it;s .tar.gz file..
[09:10] <indus> hello
[09:11] <indus> l3ns, whats new in the newer version
[09:11] <indus> just curious
[09:11] <cairo__> what's better, cron-apt or apticron?
[09:11] <l3ns> plug-ins?
[09:11] <tiagospina> bom dia
[09:12] <tiagospina> alguem poderia ajudar com uma divida?
[09:12] <tiagospina> duvida
[09:12] <Bacta> l3ns: Unpack it
[09:12] <nixjr> ardchoille, strange, im looking at a system monitor, and it shows my dual core cpu with cpu1@50% and cpu2@30% usage, why are they not running as fast are possible to extract?
[09:12] <Bacta> Sounds like you'll need to build it
[09:12] <Myrtti> !pt | tiagospina
[09:12] <Bacta> Welcome to hell ;)
[09:12] <ardchoille> nixjr: no idea
[09:12] <tiagospina> ok tanks
[09:15] <mrp> how can i push ufw messages to a seperate log file?
[09:16] <mkanyicy> hi
[09:17] <LITesterB> !hello
[09:17] <mkanyicy> i have a 32-bit computer and I want to buy an nVidia AGP card and it says 'AGP 8x 64bit' and I am worried about that '64bit' description of the card, is it a right card for my PC?
[09:18] <LITesterB> what model?
[09:18] <indus> mkanyicy, doesnt matter what it says on the card, however this card seems rather old
[09:19] <mkanyicy> indus, what do you recommend then?
[09:19] <indus> mkanyicy, you trying to upgrade your card?is this a new card?
[09:19] <LITesterB> is this in a personal buy/sell print? they probably meant AGP 8x 64MB
[09:19] <indus> yeah probably its the ram
[09:19]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[09:19] <indus> 64 MB
[09:20] <mkanyicy> indus, I am afraid to buy stuff that will not work with my PC. my motherboard is Biostar P4M80-M4
[09:20] <mkanyicy> LITesterB, indus it's 64bit and 256MB
[09:20] <sandhya> post upgrade to karmic, console beeps are inaudible on my laptop.. any idea why?
[09:20] <indus> HMM ok
[09:21] <indus> mkanyicy, do you have an AGP slot?
[09:21] <mkanyicy> indus, LITesterB, I am not sure whether that means that it should be used to 64-bit computers or what
[09:21] <indus> ah yes it has
[09:21] <mkanyicy> indus, yes I have one
[09:21] <indus> mkanyicy, any link for the card?
[09:21] <mkanyicy> indus, I was using ATI Radion X700 and it died
[09:21] <LITesterB> do you have the model of the nvidia card?
[09:22] <mkanyicy> indus, here we go: http://www.kalahari.net/electronics/Gigabyte-NVIDIA-GeForce-6200/4585/34620212.aspx
[09:22] <l3ns> uhm guys, i am using 8.04 version now, how do i upgrade to 9.10?
[09:22] <indus> mkanyicy, aah a geforce 6200 , works fine
[09:22] <mkanyicy> LITesterB, http://www.kalahari.net/electronics/Gigabyte-NVIDIA-GeForce-6200/4585/34620212.aspx
[09:22] <mkanyicy> indus, so I must not worry about that '64bit' description ?
[09:23] <Eremite> l3ns, you can download the .iso from the internet or you can upgrade your current install by opening a terminal and typing: sudo apt-get install upgrade
[09:23] <Flannel> !upgrade | l3ns, Eremite
[09:23] <indus> mkanyicy, where does it say 64 bit
[09:24] <l3ns> Eremite, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:24] <l3ns> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:24] <indus> mkanyicy, as far as i know, there is no such thing when buying a graphichs card
[09:24] <l3ns> that's after doing apt-get isntall upgrade
[09:24] <indus> mkanyicy, it looks out of stock though :)
[09:24] <LITesterB> 256MB 64Bit GDDR2
[09:24] <iceroot> Eremite: apt-get install upgrade != upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[09:24] <Jonathon> Hi. I have two HDDs, one with Vista and one with Ubuntu. Had some major problems on my Vista HDD and had to reinstall Vista. But now, when I turn on my computer, GRUB boot manager doesn't come up anymore. I can only get into Vista. I have tried holding down F8 at startup and booting from my Ubuntu HDD but it does not work. Is there anyway I can get the GRUB boot manager to come up when I turn my computer on again? Because right 
[09:24] <indus> mkanyicy, aah its talking about the memory interface
[09:25] <Eremite> iceroot, OOPS, i though she said 9.04.  My mistake.
[09:25] <indus> mkanyicy, ddr 2 ram spec
[09:25] <l3ns> n3f@n3f-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install upgrade
[09:25] <l3ns> Reading package lists... Done
[09:25] <l3ns> Building dependency tree
[09:25] <l3ns> Reading state information... Done
[09:25] <l3ns> E: Couldn't find package upgrade
[09:25] <indus> mkanyicy, dont worry about all that
[09:25] <FloodBot1> l3ns: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <LITesterB> mkanyicy yes I would say that card will work with your motherboard
[09:25] <indus> mkanyicy, for example my card is gddr 3 256 bit memory interface
[09:26] <indus> pci express
[09:26] <LITesterB> however, #hardware would probably be a better place for advice of this nature
[09:26] <rumpsy> Jonathon: if you have ubuntu cd, goto recovery mode and install grub again, or repair it
[09:26] <EastDallas> l3ns: it should be sudo apt-get upgrade   No 'install'
[09:26] <indus> mkanyicy, if you have the budget,buy a faster AGP
[09:26] <hiexpo> ok found my dubs and fixed thanks
[09:26] <DJones> !grub | Jonathon You'll need to resintall grub from a livecd or a supergrub disk, Ubottu's link has details of what you need to do, if you're on Karmic you'll need to follow instructions for grub2, if its an earlier version of ubuntu, you need the instructions for grub 1
[09:27] <l3ns> EastDallas, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:27] <l3ns> it's not detecting any newer updates. :(
[09:27] <Jonathon> Thanks everyone... I will try that.
[09:27] <EastDallas> l3ns: that means there's nothing that needs to be upgraded
[09:27] <l3ns> i'm using 8.04,,,
[09:28] <mkanyicy> indus, can you recommend something, I am a bit a newbie in the hardware side of things
[09:28] <EastDallas> l3ns: and you want to upgrade to Karmic?
[09:28] <indus> mkanyicy, hmm tell me your complete system specs
[09:28] <l3ns> EastDallas, yes
[09:28] <mkanyicy> indus, the specifications of my motherboard are here: ftp://ftp.biostar-usa.com/manuals/P4M80-M4/P4M80M4manual.pdf
[09:28] <indus> mkanyicy, yeah saw that
[09:29] <developer> any good linux remote support softwares??
[09:29] <indus> developer, lirc
[09:29] <indus> !lirc
[09:29] <mkanyicy> indus, I have pentium 4 with 1GB RAM and 250GB WD HDD and 320GB Seagate HDD. that's all
[09:29] <developer> indus: what it actually does??
[09:30] <indus> developer, its the software which helps configure and run a IR remote
[09:30] <indus> !info lirc
[09:30] <EmperiuM> hello
[09:30] <EmperiuM> good mornig ppl
[09:30] <developer> indus: i asked about remote support over internet
[09:30] <EmperiuM> is anybody in here?
[09:30] <indus> developer, oh sorry
[09:30] <l3ns> how to check for my current version?
[09:31] <hiexpo> about 1200 people
[09:31] <EmperiuM> I need some help please
[09:31] <sandhya> post upgrade to karmic, console beeps are inaudible on my laptop.. any idea why?
[09:31] <developer> EmperiuM: Just ask ur help and wait
[09:31] <indus> mkanyicy, ok see if there are more powerful graphics options, try a 7000 serries card if available
[09:31] <hiexpo> ask your ? and if some can help they will
[09:32] <EmperiuM> last night I update my ubunti 9.10 and now the pc doesn't boot
[09:32] <indus> sandhya, what is a console beep
[09:32] <EastDallas> l3ns: when you open the update manager doesn't it tell you that there's a new version available?
[09:32] <EmperiuM> It list some commands
[09:32] <sandhya> indus: like a system bell?
[09:32] <ranjan> sandhya: try to configure in the sound configuration section
[09:32] <ranjan> EmperiuM: what commands
[09:32] <indus> sandhya, try system>pref>sounds
[09:32] <EmperiuM> and I don't know
[09:32] <indus> sandhya, system sounds
[09:32] <l3ns> EastDallas, nope it says no current updates available
[09:32] <EmperiuM> .[badram boot cat chainloader configfile cpuid dump echo exit export halt help initrd insmod linux list_env loopback ls lsmod parser.rescue parser.sh reader.normal reader.rescue reboot rmmod root save_env search set sleep source terminal_imput.console terminal_output.console test unset
[09:32] <indus> alerts and beeps
[09:32] <sandhya> indus: I specifically use beep from the commandline, which is now inaudible post upgrade
[09:32] <ranjan> EmperiuM: what is shown??
[09:33] <indus> sandhya, or try under audio properties from panel
[09:33] <EmperiuM> sh:grub>
[09:33] <EmperiuM> .[badram boot cat chainloader configfile cpuid dump echo exit export halt help initrd insmod linux list_env loopback ls lsmod parser.rescue parser.sh reader.normal reader.rescue reboot rmmod root save_env search set sleep source terminal_imput.console terminal_output.console test unset
[09:33] <l3ns> EastDallas, it says my system is up-to-date
[09:33] <ranjan> EmperiuM: oh that is the problem related to grub 2
[09:33] <EmperiuM> cant I roleback ?
[09:33] <indus> mkanyicy, there are some agp ati cards also available example the radeon HD 4670
[09:33] <indus> mkanyicy, try
[09:34] <EmperiuM> went i type the command boot
[09:34] <EastDallas> l3ns: hit alt+f2 then type gksudo update-manager -c
[09:34] <EmperiuM> it says "no kernel loaded"
[09:34] <sandhya> using KDE, and I had a look in system settings -> multimedia and system settings -> notifications
[09:34] <sandhya> I can't hear the previews either
[09:34] <mkanyicy> indus, i had a lot of support issues with ATI on linux, i heard that nVidia has better linux support
[09:35] <EastDallas> l3ns: it should tell you at the very top that a new version of ubuntu is available.
[09:35] <indus> mkanyicy, bah thats old news
[09:35] <indus> mkanyicy, i just got a ATI 4850
[09:35] <indus> works good
[09:35] <l3ns> EastDallas, nothing happens
[09:35] <indus> i was using nvidia 3 years, recently changed but didnt have issues as people report
[09:36] <indus> mkanyicy, whats the price of that card ?
[09:36] <mkanyicy> indus, which one?
[09:37] <indus> mkanyicy, geforce 6200
[09:37] <mkanyicy> indus, it's out of stock so I am not looking it anymore
[09:37] <onats> hello, when is the new ff version going to be released for ubuntu?
[09:37] <rumpsy> If any indians here, i wish them in advance "Happy Republic Day"
[09:37] <indus> k
[09:37] <indus> rumpsy, thanks
[09:38] <tnt_> How are official kernel compiled ? When taking a kernel.org file and using the _same_ config as an official kernel, make-kpkg makes me a "xenu-linux-image" and .deb and not a simple linux-image one. (But I want a kernel with official config that supports both domU and non-domU .. but named linux-image)
[09:38] <EmperiuM> what should I do to fixe the problem with grub 2
[09:38] <EmperiuM> ?
[09:38] <rumpsy> indus, being an indian i have to ..
[09:38] <EastDallas> l3ns: try just update-manager -c  leave off the gksudo
[09:38] <Eremite> Hi Open Source lovers!  Like noise, experimental audio and weird sounds? http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=chvnx  Free PUBLIC DOMAIN audio by me, for you.
[09:38] <Eremite> crap, wrong channel
[09:38] <Unhammer> hey, how can I check what wifi driver is being used by the ubuntu live cd?
[09:39] <coz_> EmperiuM,   sorry didnt see your post  ...what is the issue with grub?
[09:39] <blacksun> sup
[09:39] <ZykoticK9> mupen64plus (from google code page - bin version 1.9 cli only, repo version seems broken) everything works Except the A and B buttons are backwards!  Suggestions?
[09:39] <EmperiuM> .[badram boot cat chainloader configfile cpuid dump echo exit export halt help initrd insmod linux list_env loopback ls lsmod parser.rescue parser.sh reader.normal reader.rescue reboot rmmod root save_env search set sleep source terminal_imput.console terminal_output.console test unset
[09:39] <l3ns> EastDallas, works, but it's saying still my system is up-to-date
[09:39] <blacksun> is rm *.rnd the same as mv *.rnd /dev/null
[09:39] <l3ns> how do I check for my os version?
[09:39] <EastDallas> l3ns:  hit 'check'
[09:39] <blacksun> l3ns, uname -a
[09:39] <coz_> l3ns,   lsb_release -a
[09:40] <soreau> ZykoticK9: a) use a real controller b) use a for b and vice versa
[09:40] <l3ns> Linux n3f-desktop 2.6.24-26-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 1 18:37:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:40] <indus> rumpsy, happy republic day yo too
[09:40] <indus> tomorrow that is
[09:40] <ZykoticK9> soreau, it is an N64 controller, it's cli only NO interface to configure buttons!!!
[09:40] <Eremite> l3ns, in terminal type: cat /etc/issue
[09:40] <l3ns> EastDallas, already hit the check button, still the sname
[09:41] <soreau> ZykoticK9: the config file is in .config/mupen64plus/
[09:41] <rumpsy> indus: yes \o/
[09:41] <l3ns> thanks Eremite yea it's Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS \n \l
[09:41] <Myrtti> onats: karmic? officially, never
[09:41] <Eremite> You're welcome, l3ns
[09:41] <l3ns> but why it ain't detecting newer version available?
[09:42] <Eremite> l3ns, you dont have the newer version installed :D
[09:42] <coz_> l3ns,    update-manager -d
[09:42] <l3ns> Eremite, yes and that's why I would want to upgrade it :D
[09:42] <Eremite> l3ns, do you have a cd burner and a CD or DVD?
[09:43] <l3ns> coz_, still the same..
[09:43] <Eremite> l3ns, if you have a DVD or CD burner and a CD, visit http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:44] <coz_> l3ns,   yes^^  you may want to burn the newer version... a clean install is far preferable then an upgrade
[09:44] <l3ns> but i don't have a rom on this machine
[09:44] <Eremite> coz_, you couldnt be more correct.  I upgraded instead of a fresh install to karmic, and there was soooo many problems.
[09:44] <indus> mkanyicy, hi
[09:45] <indus> mkanyicy, so what have you decided
[09:45] <coz_> Eremite,  it happens quite often  so  I understand :)
[09:45] <l3ns> which is lts version, 9.10 or 9.04?
[09:45] <indus> l3ns, 10.04
[09:45] <indus> 8.04
[09:45] <jpds> l3ns: Neither
[09:45] <l3ns> ???
[09:46] <ardchoille> l3ns: 8.04 and soon to be 10.04
[09:46] <l3ns> ahh. when is 10.04 be released?
[09:46] <EastDallas> l3ns: Go to System > Administration > Software Sources:  then choose Normal releases in the Show new distribution releases drop-down menu
[09:46] <ardchoille> !lucid
[09:46] <Myrtti> l3ns: as the 10.04 implies, april
[09:46] <Eremite> Lucid in April, right?
[09:46] <EmperiuM> I think is better to install ubutu again
[09:46] <EastDallas> l3ns: then alt+f2 update-manager -d
[09:46] <ardchoille> 10.04 (year.month)
[09:47] <tm^x> when is firefox 3.6 going to be in the repo?
[09:48] <newbuntuser> hi
[09:48] <ardchoille> tm^x: It won't, we don't get new versions unless it's part of a security upgrade or major bug fix
[09:48] <EastDallas> l3ns: I don't think you can upgrade directly to karmic.  You'll have to go to 8.10, then to 9.04, then to 9.10
[09:48] <newbuntuser> simple question I'm sure, I've searched all I can but am still having trouble with permissions
[09:49] <newbuntuser> if I sudo chown 777 /Share
[09:49] <blacksun> damnit. what is the chmod number for /dev/null
[09:49] <l3ns> EastDallas, got it mate, it's showing 8.10 now..
[09:49] <newbuntuser> shouldn't that give me full access for all users?
[09:49] <rumpsy> i think its 000
[09:49] <Eremite> newbuntuser,  chown -R username /foldername/
[09:49] <ardchoille> newbuntuser: I wrote a tutorial on file permission: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/08/linux-file-permissions.html
[09:49] <newbuntuser> oh -R
[09:49] <EastDallas> l3ns: I totally forgot that wasn't selected by default.
[09:49] <Guest90234> rumpsy??
[09:50] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: it should be chmod not chown
[09:50] <Guest90234> rumpsy??
[09:50] <Guest90234> are you there?
[09:50] <rumpsy> Guest90234: What, who are you?
[09:51] <Guest90234> This is RaiN
[09:51] <Copter> Hi. I downloaded java jre 1.6.18 and unpacked it but when i do java -version from any place of the system i get the version 1.6.15
[09:51] <l3ns> EastDallas, thanks =)
[09:51] <Copter> how do i uninstall 15?
[09:51] <Guest90234> how are you rumpsy?
[09:51] <newbuntuser> so sudo chown user /folder
[09:52] <rumpsy> Guest90234: o_O , fine don't confuse me
[09:52] <Guest90234> I cant use my Name :(
[09:52] <Guest90234> dunno why
[09:52] <tm^x> ardchoille: hmm ok
[09:53] <Guest90234> back to our topic .. can we?!
[09:53] <newbuntuser> East Dallas: I can access it fine with sudo sh, but not without sudo
[09:53] <rumpsy> you have to register
[09:53] <Guest90234> how?
[09:53] <rumpsy> !register | Guest90234
[09:53] <Guest90234> RaiN appears in my Screen ..
[09:53] <rumpsy> What client you are using?
[09:53] <newbuntuser> it's a mount point, could that be why?
[09:54] <Guest90234> empathy
[09:55] <rumpsy> follow those rules, and register you nick
[09:55] <Industrial> Netbeans 6.8 is out. Still 6.7 in synaptic. Can I somehow upgrade (through the package manager) to 6.8 ?
[09:55] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: chmod -R 755 mydirectory
[09:55] <Guest90234> I am in synaptic packager manger now rumpsy
[09:56] <l3ns> EastDallas, is it possible to go back to 8.04 after upgrading to 8.10?
[09:56] <Guest90234> what will I do next?
[09:56] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: you want to give everyone access to the directory and it's contents, correct?
[09:56] <rumpsy> Do you want to remove that linux kernel, which you installed recently
[09:56] <EastDallas> l3ns: not that i'm aware of, not without reinstalling.
[09:56] <Guest90234> yes!
[09:56] <Guest90234> the old version I think
[09:56] <rww> l3ns: no
[09:56] <Guest90234> the .14
[09:57] <rumpsy> Which one you want to remove
[09:57] <l3ns> hmm EastDallas rww okay...
[09:57] <Guest90234> .14
[09:57] <Student> Thanks EastDallas. You just solved my problem before I could finish typing it. :)
[09:57] <Student> EastDallas Here it was: "I was using fedora and made a few folders and now I switched to Ubuntu and it's saying I cant access them because I'm not the owner. Can anyone help?"
[09:58] <rumpsy> wait
[09:58] <Eremite> Student, access them in terminal with sudo?
[09:58] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: yes all so I can change with file manager
[09:58] <Guest90234> okay
[09:58] <EastDallas> Student: well, that's one way to solve it....you can change ownership using chown
[09:58] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: using my user account not rood
[09:58] <newbuntuser> root
[09:58] <ZykoticK9> soreau, thanks you pushed me in the right direction!  mupen64plus.conf doesn't seem to have any joy mappings by default, so I originally tried to edit blight_input.conf which was referenced as the input plugin from mupen64plus.conf but swapping the buttons 4 and 5 ( A and B ) had no effect -- BUT the file mupen64plus.cfg did have the mappings and making the swap worked :)  Thanks again.
[09:59] <Student> EastDallas: Yeah I still need to read up on the commands parameters.
[09:59] <Guest90234> does ubuntu 9.10 don't support Restart?
[09:59] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: It's a mount point so -R might not be ideal right?
[09:59] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: you should be able to access after modifying the permissions using chmod.
[09:59] <Eremite> Guest90234, you can use reboot instead.
[09:59] <rumpsy> Guest90234: search that in synaptic package manager
[09:59] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: Do you need to take ownership or change permissions?
[10:00] <Guest90234> Eremite how will I do that?
[10:00] <luxoFlux> Student: sudo nautilus gives you a filemanager with root rights. Then set ownership of the files to your user.
[10:00] <rww> !gksudo
[10:00] <Guest90234> what am I going to search rumpsy?
[10:00] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: the -R would be appropriate is you want to change all of the contents to777, but that's pretty unlikely.
[10:00] <Student> luxoFlux: Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind.
[10:00] <newbuntuser> East Dallas: chmod has no effect, and no error!
[10:00] <Eremite> Type reboot instead of restart?  You were asking about terminal commands, no?
[10:01] <rumpsy> Guest90234:linux-image-2.6.28-14-generic
[10:01] <rumpsy> i believe that one is old
[10:01] <verb3k> What is the best way to extract vobsubs on linux?
[10:01] <rumpsy> if you found that, remove it
[10:01] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: I'd like to take ownership, I had to mount with sudo.  So default was root then.  maybe at mount time would be a way to set uid?
[10:02] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: exactly
[10:02] <archboxman> Just to let you ubuntu users know I just installed ArchLinux it is not easy ;)
[10:03] <Guest90234> nothing appears
[10:03] <Guest90234> but when I try ubuntu, linux 2.6.31-14-generic it appears
[10:03] <rumpsy> okay remove it
[10:03] <rumpsy> Guest90234: ^^
[10:04] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: you should be able to add uid= to the mount command
[10:04] <zetheroo> why won't Ubuntu recognise my 4gb of RAM?
[10:04] <rumpsy> !mount | newbuntuser
[10:04] <archboxman> No more like you have to configure xorg which is your x windows system and grub and rc.conf when all that is done by the Ubuntu install
[10:05] <coz_> zetheroo,  did you install the 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu?
[10:05] <zetheroo> coz_: uhm .. 32 I think
[10:05] <Guest90234> Latest Version                                         Description
[10:05] <Guest90234> 2.6.31.17.30                                         Linux kernel source with Ubuntu Patches
[10:05] <Guest90234> This what appears
[10:05] <coz_> zetheroo,  ok that's why...32 bit limit of memory recognition is as most 3.5 gigs
[10:05] <Guest90234> Should I remove it?
[10:06] <zetheroo> coz_: well it says 2.9GB here ...
[10:06] <trollboy> is there a trick I can use to see if a file is a binary or a txt?
[10:06] <coz_> zetheroo,   ok   is this a 64 bit system?
[10:06] <zetheroo> coz_: how can i get the most out of my 4GB?
[10:06] <rumpsy> well, check it before you have .17 installed
[10:06] <zetheroo> coz_: dunno ... C2D
[10:06] <frogzoo> 32 bits is 4 gig in actual fact - there's some bios or other consideration that limits 32bit to 3.5gig
[10:06] <rumpsy> if then , unistall, or remove
[10:06] <coz_> zetheroo,  well if the system is 64 bit then download and install  the 64 bit edition of ubunti
[10:06] <coz_> zetheroo,  hold on
[10:06] <pranav> hello
[10:07] <zetheroo> coz_: its a laptop .. Thinkpad R61 ...
[10:07] <archboxman> apt-get install or apt-get remove
[10:07] <newbuntuser> ubotto:I'm attaching a shared drive to a folder
[10:07] <rumpsy> i like thinkpad Laptops
[10:07] <Guest90234> hmmm
[10:07] <archboxman> !apt-get
[10:07] <zetheroo> coz_: C2D T9300 ....
[10:07] <rumpsy> newbuntuser: don't talk to bot
[10:08] <pranav> can any body tell me abt virtual box pls???
[10:08] <coz_> zetheroo,  ok hold on
[10:08] <archboxman> !bot
[10:08] <newbuntuser> rumpsy: haha
[10:08] <rumpsy> !virtual box
[10:08] <EastDallas> newbuntuser is this an ntfs volume?
[10:08] <archboxman> newbuntuser: its there for information
[10:08] <rumpsy> !VirtualBox
[10:08] <newbuntuser> ubotto: thx bot
[10:09] <rumpsy> pranav: ^^
[10:09] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: it's through VirtualBox shared folder
[10:09] <pranav> (03:38:26  IST) rumpsy can you  body tell me abt virtual box pls???
[10:09] <archboxman> Virtualbox is a sandbox and will not spread a virus to rest of your computer...that bot won't tell you that
[10:09] <coz_> zetheroo,  in terminal  uname -m
[10:09] <zetheroo> does 64bit Ubuntu work as well as the 32bit version?
[10:09] <newbuntuser> sudo mount -o uid=1000 -t vboxsf desktop /home/xuse/Desktop/macdesktop/ finally worked
[10:10] <rumpsy> Its like emulator like, you can install windows in linuxBOx using VirtualBox
[10:10] <zetheroo> coz_: i686
[10:10] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: cool
[10:10] <edeca> zetheroo: Yes, on 64 bit hardware
[10:10] <newbuntuser> txh fer helping me think about it
[10:10] <archboxman> rumpsy: I use playonlinux much better runs wine ;)
[10:10] <coz_> zetheroo, mm  that is 32 bit
[10:10] <newbuntuser> weird chmod didn't do anything
[10:11] <zetheroo> coz_: so i cannot even use a 64bit OS on this machine?
[10:11] <coz_> zetheroo,  correct
[10:11] <archboxman> newbuntuser: are you using su or sudo???
[10:11] <newbuntuser> archboxman: sudo, is su better?
[10:12] <RaiN> << does it change to RaiN ??
[10:12] <coz_> zetheroo,   when you boot into ubuntu there is a memory test option
[10:12] <rumpsy> pranav: In simple its a package which helps to run two types of OS in a single windows
[10:12] <zetheroo> coz_: what would the point be of creating a machine that can use 4GB of RAM but will not allow any OS that utilises that RAM!? very strange
[10:12] <rumpsy> pranav: In simple its a package which helps to run two types of OS in a single window
[10:12] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: I had a similar prob before with an ntfs partition, and I had to take ownership, couldn't do anything else.  I used ntfs-config....I had just started using ubuntu.
[10:12] <rumpsy> I mean singleBox
[10:12] <coz_> zetheroo,  well that's a good question... I have no answer for you thouogh....
[10:12] <archboxman> ewook: su is for root commands and sudo runs one root command
[10:13] <rumpsy> if you don't know about virtualBox don't mess with it
[10:13] <coz_> zetheroo,  just to be on the safe side...when you boot into ubuntu   there should be a memory test option...you could run that to be sure all memory is fine...however it still wont recognize 4 gigs
[10:13] <rumpsy> Leave that !
[10:13] <rww> zetheroo: The T9300 supports 64bit just fine.
[10:13] <Industrial> Netbeans 6.8 is out. Still 6.7 in synaptic. Can I somehow upgrade (through the package manager) to 6.8 ?
[10:13] <Guest34402> now upgrade firefox to 3.6  my os ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:13] <coz_> rww,   ah cool
[10:13] <zetheroo> rww: does it?
[10:13] <archboxman> ewook: in some linux installs you have to add urself to the sudo group ,but Ubuntu does it for you
[10:13] <rww> zetheroo: yes
[10:13] <coz_> zetheroo,  there you go
[10:13] <zetheroo> coz_: cool
[10:13] <rumpsy> hey rww o/
[10:14] <rww> coz_: uname gives the architecture of the current OS, not whether the machine itself is 64-bit capable.
[10:14] <zetheroo> rww: do I have to reinstall everything from scratch? ... can i just upgrade or something to 64bit?
[10:14] <indus> rww, how about uname -r
[10:14] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: it's alla bout permissions eh?  I'd still like to see things more simple with permissions, 1 plus 3 plus 4 equals 7, of course!!
[10:14] <rww> zetheroo: you have to reinstall
[10:14] <coz_> rww,   right   forgot about that     I am thinking dmidecode may help not sure
[10:14] <Guest34402> !help
[10:14] <EastDallas> newbuntuser: haha
[10:14] <rww> indus: all of the various uname parameters give the architecture of the current OS.
[10:14] <Guest34402> !firefox
[10:14] <indus> rww, hmm yes
[10:15] <coz_> zetheroo,  download the 64 bit edition of ubuntu and burn that to cd
[10:15] <rww> indus: the point of uname is to give OS info, not machine info :)
[10:15] <zetheroo> rww: can 64bit run everything that 32bit does in Ubuntu?
[10:15] <dnivra> zetheroo, you could try installing linux kernel pae. i use 32 bit ubuntu with this kernel to use the whole 4GB.(saying this just in case no one told you this)
[10:15] <coz_> zetheroo,  then reinstall the entire system
[10:15] <zetheroo> dnivra: so there is a 32bit kernel that can use all 4GB of RAM?
[10:16] <ewook> archboxman: ?
[10:16] <archboxman> I use firefox 3.5 on archlinux becuase they use bleeding edge packages kinda weird
[10:16] <archboxman> ewook: ues
[10:16] <archboxman> yes
[10:16] <newbuntuser> EastDallas: now hopefully it will be persistent upon reboot
[10:16] <rww> zetheroo: there are a tiny number of packages in the 32-bit repositories that aren't in the 64-bit repositories. You will likely never come across them.
[10:16] <Student> Oh so thats what the PAE kernel does... :)
[10:16] <frogzoo> zetheroo: most everything, so almost
[10:16] <coz_> zetheroo,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312763
[10:16] <rumpsy> zetheroo: try to install 32-bit kernel
[10:16] <dnivra> zetheroo, not exactly but yeah there is a way to use the whole 4GB ram in 32 bit systems.
[10:16] <ewook> archboxman: you're tabbing wrong.
[10:16] <coz_> zetheroo,  I have not tried that however
[10:16] <dnivra> zetheroo, 32 bit OS Ubuntu version*
[10:16] <EastDallas> Guest34402: http://www.getfirefox.com
[10:16] <RaiN88> <<< Am I now RaiN ???
[10:17] <archboxman> ewook: what do you mean??? explain
[10:17] <zetheroo> dnivra: so what I am running is not 32bit OS?
[10:17] <frogzoo> dnivra: any clue as to what's involved in enabling the last 0.5 gig on 32 bit?
[10:17] <ewook> archboxman: you're spamming me. I haven't asked anything.
[10:17] <coz_> zetheroo,  you are running 32 bit OS
[10:17] <ikonia> frogzoo: to enable more than 3.5 gig of ram you either need to use the 32bit PAE kernel, or install a 64bit OS
[10:18] <coz_> zetheroo,   in terminal do   sudo dmidecode   and move down to the Processor Informatoin
[10:18] <zetheroo> so why are people saying to install the 32bit kernel ?
[10:18] <dnivra> frogzoo, for me it's satisfaction that ubuntu is detecting the whole 4GB and not just win
[10:18] <frogzoo> ikonia: interesting..
[10:18] <rumpsy> zetheroo: in to app of 64bit you have to install a lib !
[10:18] <zetheroo>  coz_: ok
[10:18] <dnivra> zetheroo, 32 bit PAE kernel I think is what they mean.
[10:18] <Industrial> Netbeans 6.8 is out. Still 6.7 in synaptic. Can I somehow upgrade (through the package manager) to 6.8 ?
[10:18] <coz_> zetheroo,  under  "Family"  it should tell you the type of processor you have onboard
[10:18] <archboxman> ewook: sorry, I use irssi for irc and I have a yellow background picture with yellow highlights for names sorry hard to read names with have to change picture or theme??? Sorry ;)
[10:19] <ewook> archboxman: if you're running from a x-terminal, just change it to white text, and black background..
[10:19] <EastDallas> Guest34402: They may not put Firefox 3.6 in the repositories for Karmic.  Ubuntu likes to approve certain versions of applications for each version of Ubuntu, and only release security updates and bug fixes.
[10:19] <zetheroo> coz_: Other - ha
[10:19] <rumpsy> archboxman: i tag you, i like irssi
[10:19] <coz_> zetheroo,  it says  "other" ?
[10:19] <zetheroo> coz_: yeah
[10:19] <archboxman> ewook: great program thanks for the advice ;)
[10:19] <coz_> zetheroo,   what is the make and model of this again?
[10:20] <ewook> archboxman: I know. I run it too.
[10:20] <archboxman> cant beat irssi
[10:20] <zetheroo> coz_: Intel C2D T9300 2.5GHZ 6MB Cache
[10:20] <archboxman> ;0
[10:20] <coz_> zetheroo,  no i menat the laptop itself
[10:20] <coz_> neverminde
[10:20] <zetheroo> coz_: Thinkpad R61
[10:21] <archboxman> ewook: dont know why people complain about irssi hard to set up found it easy to setup and run
[10:21] <Copter> how do i get sudo rights in ubuntu to write within the file system explorer?
[10:21] <Copter> so i can copy to usr/ etc?
[10:22] <jellow> Copter: gksu nautilus
[10:22] <Laibsch> Can I somehow have update-grub add a line "savedefault 0" to all kernel entries?  I know "savedefault" is possible, but I need "savedefault 0"
[10:22] <Copter> jellow: what? :o
[10:22] <frogzoo> Copter: if you don't know, you shouldn't be poking about there
[10:22] <zetheroo> coz_: in the other info it shows 2GB in each bank
[10:22] <adelie42> how do I mount a usb storage device? http://paste.ubuntu.com/362501/
[10:23] <jellow> Copter: Open terminal => gksu nautilus
[10:23] <frogzoo> adelie42: if it doesn't work when you plug it in, best you can do is hope for a kernel update
[10:23] <archboxman> Copter: cp command to copy in terminal probably going to neeed to be su or sudo
[10:23] <coz_> zetheroo,  right it should see it but a 32 bit OS cant use it all  you need to go to ubuntu.com and download the 64 bit edition of ubuntu and install that
[10:23] <archboxman> !copy
[10:23] <Acheron> Hello, anyone know how to setup a proper apt server? (reprepro)
[10:24] <coz_> zetheroo,  or change the kernel as suggested by dnivra
[10:24] <zetheroo> ok so the 64bit version of Ubuntu is as good as the 32bit version right? no incompatibilities or hardware issues etc?
[10:24] <Student> zetheroo: You will have to install flash yourself. But it's not hard.
[10:24] <coz_> zetheroo,  as far as I am aware it should be fine
[10:24] <archboxman> zetheroo: no sometimes flash has issues
[10:24] <EastDallas> !bots | archboxman
[10:25] <dnivra> coz_, don't you think zetheroo should just install the kernel rather than bother installing the whole system from scratch? it's a logical choice right?
[10:25] <zetheroo> coz_: will doing that other thing to the kernel make anything else not work that currenty is?
[10:25] <jellow> !iso | jellow
[10:25] <coz_> dnivra,  I would guess that depends on how experienced he is no?
[10:25] <adelie42> frogzoo: so what works is pretty smart, but that's it? The device is thoroughly recognized and doesn't encounter any errors when it connects
[10:25] <dnivra> coz_, true.
[10:25] <archboxman> !Ubottu
[10:25] <rumpsy> zetheroo: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 try this
[10:25] <archboxman> !cp
[10:25] <coz_> zetheroo,  well If you are not expeienced with kernel changes then I would just install the 64 bit edition of ubuntu
[10:25] <zetheroo> dnivra: yeah .. how much does it take to install this other kernel? ... and will all my apps and such still work ? or maybe yes maybe no?
[10:26] <archboxman> !linux commands
[10:26] <archboxman> !commands
[10:26] <rumpsy> zetheroo: you have to install lib32
[10:26] <zetheroo> coz_: right
[10:26] <dnivra> zetheroo, I've been using the kernel with no problems. and of course i've got the 32 bit kernel as backup: the entry is still in grub.
[10:26] <luxoFlux> zetheroo: I think skype doesn't run on 64 bits as it's not open source.
[10:26] <archboxman> stupid bot
[10:26] <coz_> zetheroo,  perhaps speak with dnivra  about the installation of this kernel
[10:27] <zetheroo> ok
[10:27] <dnivra> coz_, you can handle it no problem:). we're a community right?
[10:27] <archboxman> luxoFlux: everyone is having trouble run skype in 64 along with flash
[10:27] <zetheroo> rumpsy: is that all?
[10:27] <ikonia> archboxman: no they are not - please don't make stuff up
[10:27] <coz_> dnivra,  you have the experience with installing this particular kernel   I dont
[10:27] <ikonia> archboxman: there are problems for some users, but it' snot everyone
[10:27] <rumpsy> yes, you have to install ia32
[10:27] <gustavonarea> Hi. I removed Evolution and now I can't log in anymore on Ubuntu. After I enter my password, I get back to GDM. Is there any log I could check to see what happens? Or do you know what's going on?
[10:27] <dnivra> coz_, oh ok.
[10:28] <EastDallas> archboxman: the flash problem was resolved long ago
[10:28] <archboxman> ikonia: Running arch linux we can't get it run in 64
[10:28] <zetheroo> dnivra: is this true? :)
[10:28] <rumpsy> zetheroo: installing ia32 may fix your problem, then try to install skype
[10:28] <ikonia> EastDallas: there still are flash problems, but it's certainly a minority user
[10:28] <gustavonarea> Oh, I also create a new user and tried to log in, but the problem was still there
[10:28] <dnivra> zetheroo, if you plan to install the kernel check out http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[10:28] <ikonia> archboxman: this is Ubuntu support - please don't reference arch problems in here
[10:28] <zetheroo> rumpsy: uhm ... I already have Skype installed
[10:28] <Jonathon> Can someone direct me to the instructions for burning ISOs to CDs properly? I'm trying to get Super GRUB Disk onto a CD-ROM, and I know there was a special way to put the ISO on properly so it would boot correctly. Where can I find this? Thanks.
[10:28] <coz_> zetheroo,  let me see if there are any tutorial pages about this
[10:28] <dnivra> zetheroo, is what true? which comment are you referring to?
[10:28] <archboxman> sorry going to Load LinuxMint got to go
[10:28] <brand0n> gustavonarea, try reinstall evolution
[10:28] <zetheroo> dnivra: the lib32 needing to be installed
[10:29] <gustavonarea> brand0n: already did that :(
[10:29] <archboxman> maybe debian not sure yet
[10:29] <adelie42> JonathanD: right click iso and burn. it will work because the iso is raw
[10:29] <brand0n> try failsafe gnome
[10:29] <Student> Jonathon: Are you using Ubuntu?
[10:29] <ikonia> archboxman: off you go then
[10:29] <archboxman> parting
[10:29] <brand0n> gustavonarea, did you try failsafe gnome
[10:29] <dnivra> zetheroo, lib32 to run the PAE kernel? I don't think so. i just installed the packages as stated in that link i gave you
[10:29] <rumpsy> zetheroo: my recommendation is don't use 32bit kernel for 64bit processor
[10:30] <Jonathon> Student: I'm on Vista trying to get back to Ubuntu
[10:30] <zetheroo> dnivra: ok
[10:30] <theadmin> rumpsy: A good one :D I think zat is obvious
[10:30] <zetheroo> rumpsy: ok ... why?
[10:30] <Guest34402> help me now to Fullscreen game stargraft wine my os ubuntu 9.10
[10:30] <adelie42> how do I mount a usb storage device? http://paste.ubuntu.com/362501/
[10:30] <theadmin> Guest34402: Uh, ask on #winehq. First off look in settings...
[10:30] <brand0n> Guest34402, nice english
[10:30] <dnivra> rumpsy, please enlighten me on that too. why 32 bit kernel is not good for 64 bit kernel?
[10:30] <Student> Jonathon: Then I recomend CDBurnerXP and it will bring up a menu that says burn ISO. I doon't remember if vista has a iso burner built in.
[10:30] <archboxman> Last idea I will leave the community with http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/42/
[10:31] <brand0n> best windows iso burner is imgburn
[10:31] <Jonathon> Thanks guys I'll have a look at those
[10:31] <Student> brand0n: but doesn't that cost money?
[10:31] <jellow> adelie42: nautilus should bick it up so on pannel =>  Places => click on usb device
[10:31] <brand0n> nope
[10:31] <brand0n> its freeware
[10:31] <zetheroo> rumpsy: is there a reason why its better to run the 64bit version instead of this?
[10:31] <Student> brand0n: oh ok
[10:31] <rumpsy> 32bit kernels are prepared with limitations with 32bit processor! its not fit for 64bit until you install 64bit kernel
[10:31] <jellow> adelie42: Or youc an use terminal
[10:31] <EastDallas> Jonathon: you don't have to do anything special, just burn it using nero, infrarecorder, or whatever software you like
[10:32] <zetheroo> rumpsy: so will it damage my hardware to do this?
[10:32] <gustavonarea> brand0n: I'm trying to, but I cannot find the list of sessions I could use. Where is it in Ubuntu Karmic?
[10:32] <coz_> zetheroo,  I have heard nothing wrong with using the PAE kernel...however I have no experience with it at all so  any suggestions at this point are going to be from those that have used it :)
[10:32] <Student> All this talk of installing 64 bit Ubuntu is making me think of switching. :P
[10:32] <rumpsy> zetheroo: no, but your memory will not be used fully
[10:33] <zetheroo> coz_: no worries .. thanks for all your help :)
[10:33] <zetheroo> rumpsy: so it will but it won't ...
[10:33] <coz_> zetheroo,  no problem and good luck with whichever diceision you make
[10:33] <Student> I don't think I need to switch since there isn't mtoo much of a performance difference. Well I might for video\audio encoding. But I only have 2GB of ram anyways.
[10:33] <adelie42> jellow: everything looks right, and it is assigned a device, but in addition to it not recognizing any kind of partition, gparted nor the new "disk manager" even see its existance
[10:33] <saftsack> hi, my alsa can't find any soundcard. lspci lists my soundcard, modules are also loaded correctly by alsa.
[10:34] <jellow> adelie42: look at any erros in dmesg
[10:34] <rumpsy> zetheroo: if you have more doubts, look in wiki about 32bit kernel limitations and 64bit kernel advantages
[10:34] <zetheroo> rumpsy: the thing is that I need the use of all the apps I am using ... and that includes Skype ... among others ... I don't need mroe limitations ... but I also would like my new dual channel RAM to work :)
[10:34] <suigeneris> is there a bug in chown? I type chown and the first two or three characters of the user, hit tab and user\: comes up. then I try adding the same user as the group and tab doesn't accept it. what gives?
[10:35] <Ari_Lazarus> Hey guys. I was trying to make a shortcut / symlink, but I need to pass it some arguments which are in a windows type format. How can I do this?
[10:35] <adelie42> jellow: that was what I posted, and no, no errors. Bus 1 Device 4 scsi 11
[10:35] <khriss> guys can i have a support regarding my video card driver for my laptop?
[10:35] <susanin-dom> hi
[10:35] <atomfox> msg nickserv identify redsix
[10:35] <theadmin> Does anybody know how to stop different things making files like "filename.ext~"? I usually have to often do "rm -rf *~ && rm -rf .*~"
[10:35] <adelie42> jellow: and type 0
[10:35] <susanin-dom> Кто знает когда заработает форум?
[10:36] <theadmin> susanin-dom: English please. Но я хз :D
[10:36] <dnivra> theadmin, are you using gedit?
[10:36] <theadmin> dnivra: Usually.
[10:36] <jellow> adelie42: I see sorry , Not sure i can help you , Possibly try in windows not very helpful i know =/
[10:36] <khriss> where can i get Sis 671/771 mirage 3 drivers for ubuntu 9.10 and how can i maximize my resolution to 1360x768?
[10:36] <ardchoille> susanin-dom: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> !ru | susanin-dom
[10:36] <dnivra> theadmin, you can switch off create backups in gedit. that way you won't see those files.
[10:36] <zetheroo> dnivra: so this is all you did?   sudo sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[10:36] <theadmin> dnivra: Okay, looking for that
[10:37] <dnivra> zetheroo, yeah
[10:37] <atomfox> theadmin, Sir do you know hot to fix the random freeze in ubuntu 9.10. I always experience it... ^_^
[10:37] <suigeneris> atomfox you should change your password at once
[10:37] <susanin-dom> my english is not very good.
[10:37] <adelie42> jellow: hmm... probably got a live XP cd somewhere. I'll look for it  :( thanks anyway
[10:37] <theadmin> atomfox: Me? I don't have anything to do with it.
[10:37] <atomfox> yup I know
[10:37] <Tissspp> Hi I recently installed xubuntu-desktop followed by kubuntu-desktop onto ubuntu to experience them, but now the ugly kubuntu cursor is there and won't go away. And trying to change it in the theme settings doesn't work neither.
[10:37] <theadmin> Anyway, susanin-dom wonders when forums will be back up
[10:37] <atomfox> suigeneris, yup I know
[10:37] <zetheroo> dnivra: and your system is now using over 3GB of ram?
[10:37] <atomfox> ^_^
[10:37] <dnivra> zetheroo, 3.8GB
[10:38] <susanin-dom> anybody khow when forum will be good?
[10:38] <zetheroo> dnivra: so you also have 4GB in your system ...
[10:38] <dnivra> zetheroo, yes I do.
[10:38] <khriss> where can i get Sis 671/771 mirage 3 drivers for ubuntu 9.10 and how can i maximize my resolution to 1360x768?
[10:38] <jellow> how i tun a file into an iso?
[10:39] <luxoFlux> what package do i need to install to get the services start/stop utility in my desktop ubuntu menu?
[10:39] <Acheron> Can anyone help me with a reprepro apt server?
[10:39] <theadmin> susanin-dom: У меня форум работает нормально // Forums work for me
[10:40] <coz_> Acheron,  I know nothing about it however ..if no one here can help you could also try the ##linux on freenode or  #linux on efnet server
[10:40] <Student> luxoFlux: For me it's preinstalled in System->Administration->Services is this what you meant?
[10:41] <luxoFlux> Student: Yes i don't have it. My previous install had it.
[10:41] <dnivra> zetheroo, but as rumpsy said the 32 bit might not be the best on the 64bit architecture. I've not used the 64 bit version so I don't know. I'm happy it works faster that win vista 64 bit so don't wanna change. never had the need to change.
[10:41] <dnivra> zetheroo, 32 bit kernel*
[10:42] <atomfox> anyone here experiencing the random freeze in ubuntu 9.10?
[10:42] <theadmin> atomfox: Sometimes happens to me, no idea wtf
[10:42] <Student> luxoFlux: Ok found it. Go to synaptic package manager and search for system-services
[10:42] <jellow> !img | jellow
[10:42] <coz_> zetheroo,  they do make a point here.... since you have  64 bit architecture it may be best to use the 64 bit ubuntu   and other than having to install flash manually... apparenlty it works just as well :)
[10:42] <luxoFlux> Student : thanks
[10:43] <Student> luxoFlux: Np just let me know if it helps :)
[10:43] <theadmin> jellow: There is no such ubottu command as "!img"
[10:43] <ardchoille> Student: Any way to get that on Karmic?
[10:43] <Student> ardchoille: Get what?
[10:43] <zetheroo>  coz_: except for skype!?
[10:43] <coz_> zetheroo,  rather you have 64 bit hardware
[10:43] <ardchoille> Student: system-services
[10:43] <coz_> zetheroo,  oh  mmmm
[10:44] <Student> ardchoille: I'm on Jaunty but it should work for Karmic too
[10:44] <coz_> zetheroo,  then the other alternative is to do nothing
[10:44] <atomfox> theadmin, I hope somebody could find I fix for it, been solving it for 1 week, and still the freezing occurs
[10:44] <ardchoille> !info system-services
[10:44] <coz_> zetheroo,   and just accespt the amount of memory recognized and go from there
[10:44] <ardchoille> Student: ^^
[10:44] <theadmin> atomfox: Usually it's something with hardware
[10:44] <Student> ardchoille: Hmm interesting.
[10:44] <jellow> theadmin: i know was jut a shot in the dark trying to mount an .img
[10:45] <ardchoille> Student: could be due to the move away from sysinit system
[10:45] <psycho_oreos> jellow, you need something like cdemu
[10:45] <atomfox> theadmin, I'm not sure, how about you? do you still experience it?
[10:45] <theadmin> jellow: IMG? You can try "mount -o loop file.img ~/somedir", but I don't know... this works with ISO's
[10:45] <Student> ardchoille: I decided not to go to karmic because it didn't work for me too well. Maybe since It's been a while I'll give it another try.
[10:45] <theadmin> atomfox: Rarely
[10:45] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, highly doubt that will work
[10:46] <sera|work> a freshly installed server 9.10 just shows GRUB_ and nothing else at boot ... i already reinstalled, same error. any ideas?
[10:46] <Student> ardchoille: Are you having any troubles with: 9.10?
[10:46] <jellow> psycho_oreos: just convert it to iso
[10:46] <ardchoille> Student: Not a bit
[10:46] <theadmin> jellow: Actually, try to get disc images in ISO format, those are only ones that get mounted for me
[10:46] <psycho_oreos> jellow, yeah that is another way, maybe with binchunker :)
[10:46] <suigeneris> is there a bug in chown? I type chown and the first two or three characters of the user, hit tab and user\: comes up. then I try adding the same user as the group and tab doesn't accept it. what gives?
[10:46] <ardchoille> Student: But I build my own computers from parts that I already know work with Ubuntu
[10:46] <Student> ardchoille: Hmm well in a bit I think I'll give 9.10 64 bit a try. Thanks :)
[10:47] <jellow> theadmin: tried that kept asking for a filesystem
[10:47] <theadmin> jellow: Ah, then it's not gonna work :/
[10:47] <Student> ardchoille: I think I first tried when it was an alpha so....
[10:47] <psycho_oreos> jellow, though the good thing about cdemu is that it has the capability to emulate a virtual cd/dvd drive.. much like like how daemontools work on win32
[10:47] <ardchoille> Student: yeah, I didn';t install it until this month, didn't want any of the hassle others were having
[10:48] <luxoFlux> Student : no that package doesn't exist on my system.
[10:48] <theadmin> What is the proper way to mount an NTFS filesystem? "ntfs-3g /dev/somedrive" or "mount /dev/somedrive"?
[10:48] <rumpsy> theadmin: lol
[10:48] <Student> luxoFlux are you on 9.10?
[10:48] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, either will work I think.. though ntfs-3g is probably better than ntfs itself
[10:48] <theadmin> rumpsy: Uh... huh?
[10:48] <Miracle> hi people I'm trying to compile my first kernel and was wondering if i need to provide support for both x86 and x64 or would x64 be enough?
[10:48] <rumpsy> theadmin: sudo fdisk -l
[10:48] <psycho_oreos> Miracle, depends on your applicants
[10:49] <theadmin> rumpsy: That lists, not mounts
[10:49] <jellow> psycho_oreos: sounds usefull , will have a look
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> Miracle, s/applicants/applications
[10:49] <rumpsy> theadmin: then, look what drive you want
[10:49] <luxoFlux> Student: yes desktop iso
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> jellow, the only downfall is that getting it to work is quite awkward, just be forewarned
[10:49] <theadmin> rumpsy: Uh... no, I just ask what is the proper command to mount NTFS
[10:49] <Student> luxoFlux I was told that specific package isn't on 9.10. I'll try to find it out.
[10:49] <rumpsy> theadmin: this is command, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/theadmin/mounted
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<hd> /mnt/some_point
[10:50] <Miracle> psycho_oreos ok are there apps that only work in x86 or usually there both?
[10:50] <theadmin> rumpsy: /home/theadmin doesn't exist. Why not use ~? This would be more universal.
[10:50] <psycho_oreos> Miracle, not off my head, but moreso are the drivers that could be an issue for example
[10:50] <zetheroo> is there an Ubuntu chat for the 64bit version?
[10:50] <rumpsy> theadmin: ^^, that was an example, you have to choose exact hdd and location to mount
[10:50] <Miracle> oreo ah ok thx
[10:50] <Myrtti> zetheroo: this is it
[10:50] <theadmin> zetheroo: There are many IM clients for x64 ubuntu
[10:51] <rumpsy> theadmin: got it? worked?
[10:51] <psycho_oreos> Miracle, nw.. technically 32bit can be run under 64bit platform but it may get slowed down.. if you're using ia64 the lag is very evident but that sort of hardware is fairly rare
[10:51] <zetheroo> Myrtti: ah .. ok ... you use 64bit? I just want to know all the gory details of what does NOT work :)
[10:51] <hiexpo> psycho_oreos: - hey what prog is that cdemu i use to use daemon tools and loved it
[10:51] <theadmin> rumpsy: Yep. Thanks.
[10:51] <zetheroo> theadmin: I was not asking for an IM client ;)
[10:51] <theadmin> zetheroo: Then what? o_O
[10:52] <Myrtti> zetheroo: everything works.
[10:52] <Myrtti> zetheroo: that is, everything I've thrown at it
[10:52] <Student> luxoFlux Sorry I cant find anything for 9.10. Maybe someone else knows.
[10:52] <psycho_oreos> hiexpo, yeah its cdemu, but cdemu is only CLI front-end.. daemontools is more like GUI frontend.. to this date I haven't found a decent equivalence to it apart from cdemu itself
[10:52] <zetheroo> Myrtti: repos the same? what about Skype?
[10:53] <hiexpo> ok kool and where did ya get it in the rep's ?
[10:53] <rww> zetheroo: 1) yes, 2) skype has a 64-bit version
[10:53] <psycho_oreos> zetheroo,  think its the same, except instead of it being marked as i386 its marked as x86-64.. unless otherwise it comes from ppa
[10:53] <Student> Myrtti: Are you using 9.10?
[10:53] <Myrtti> zetheroo: only thing I've done differently is that I got the alpha flash plugin from labs.adobe.com. Some people use other methods.
[10:53] <Myrtti> Student: yes?
[10:53] <hiexpo> i found it thanks
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> hiexpo, you'll need to search for it and add ppa keys :) but like I said, I have to warn you its not easy to get it working right :)
[10:54] <melchior> How do i install a deb package from the sehell ?
[10:54] <zetheroo> rww: awesome .. so skype for Linux 64bit
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> melchior, dpkg -i </path/to/file>
[10:54] <Student> Myrtti: Ok now I'll update to 9.10 64 bit for sure. I am on 9.04 32 bit now and wanted to know another users opinnion.
[10:54] <psycho_oreos> melchior, err add sudo in front
[10:54] <thwapp> Hello folks...
[10:54] <hiexpo> no prob i'll get it working :)
[10:54] <ardchoille> melchior: you'll need sudo for that
[10:54] <zetheroo> Myrtti: ok ... so flash is really a pain in the rear ...
[10:54] <rww> zetheroo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2064-bit%20Flash%20plugin
[10:54] <melchior> thanks
[10:54] <rww> zetheroo: works fine for me.
[10:55] <meco> What is the command to act as root?
[10:55] <psycho_oreos> meco, sudo
[10:55] <meco> ok
[10:55] <pranav> hello
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> hi | pranav
[10:56] <khriss> where can i get Sis 671/771 mirage 3 drivers for ubuntu 9.10 and how can i maximize my resolution to 1360x768?
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> !hi | pranav
[10:56] <luxoFlux> bye
[10:56] <pranav> can u tell me abt virtual manager
[10:56] <pranav> hi psycho
[10:57] <zetheroo> rww: ok so that worked for you then ...
[10:57] <rww> zetheroo: yes. That's also the plugin Myrtti was talking about, I think.
[10:57] <thomas82> Hello
[10:57] <thwapp> I wished I knew who it was that pointed me in the right direction 13 hours ago, but I finally figure out how to network install Ubuntu from the mini.iso onto my desktop..
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> khriss,
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[10:57] <FloodBot1> psycho_oreos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[10:57] <meco> How do I get the prompt back?
[10:58] <meco> ctrl-z, got it
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> bleh sorry bout that
[10:58] <psycho_oreos> khriss, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8718754
[10:58] <recon69_lap> hi all, I install avg 8.5 and trying to work out how to scan a flash drive. anyone?
[10:58] <hawodi> Hello all.
[10:59] <coz_> rechael2,  did you read the man page for that?
[10:59] <coz_> rechael2,  sorry
[10:59] <zetheroo> rww: ok .. sounds promising .. so with 64bit Ubuntu things should really fly .... that's the point of it right? ... I mean I mean I got a 2x2GB kit of ram so that dual channel would work ...
[10:59] <coz_> recon69_lap,  did you read the man page?
[10:59] <meco> I want to delete a directory which has drwxr-xr-x. How do I do that?
[10:59] <rww> zetheroo: I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in speed.
[10:59] <Student> Does 9.10 allow you to encrypt your home directory in the installer. So that I don't have to use an alternative cd?
[10:59] <rww> Student: yes
[10:59] <prodigel> hi all. I have a directory tree that I need to 'clean' of .svn subdirectories. Can I do that without a script?
[11:00] <Student> rww: Thanks
[11:00] <zetheroo> rww: oh? ... humph ...
[11:00] <rww> Student: There's an option towards the end to "Log in automatically", "Log in manually", "Log in manually and encrypt home folder", or something like that.
[11:00] <Student> rww: Ok
[11:00] <pat|nG> i just purge kde4 on my laptop.....i got a message....configuring kdm...do i have to stop kdm daemon and press YES? or NO? which one? i purged the kde4 and change to ubuntu....which one will i choose?
[11:00] <recon69_lap> coz_ : installed as a deb , no idea what it's called in man
[11:00] <coz_> recon69_lap,   you could use  clamav I believe
[11:01] <coz_> rechael2,  in terminal   man avg
[11:01] <recon69_lap> coz_: afrade not
[11:01] <coz_> mmm
[11:01] <coz_> recon69_lap,  let me check hold on
[11:01] <meco> Why do I get "su: Authentication failure" when I enter the password I set up the system with?
[11:01] <rww> meco: because you should be using sudo, not su.
[11:01] <dschie> Hi! Someone knowns how to use NetworkManager/nm-applet for VPN only, and leave the network device unmanaged? It cant be managed by nm because nis and autofs wouldnt work.
[11:02] <meco> rww: what whould I type more than 'sudo' ?
[11:02] <pat|nG> anyone?
[11:02] <researcher1> is it possible to install windows Xp after UBUNTU 9.10 64 bits?
[11:02] <coz_> recon69_lap,   in google type this    avg 8.5 man page  and there is a pdf download manual
[11:02] <pat|nG> anyone?
[11:02] <pat|nG> i just purge kde4 on my laptop.....i got a message....configuring kdm...do i have to stop kdm daemon and press YES? or NO? which one? i purged the kde4 and change to ubuntu....which one will i choose?
[11:02] <coz_> recon69_lap,  the link should read    [PDF]
[11:02] <coz_> <%DOC NAME%> User M
[11:02] <recon69_lap> coz_: thx, I'll have a look at that :)
[11:03] <pat|nG> anyone?
[11:03] <rww> meco: What are you trying to do?
[11:03] <Student> researcher1: Dual Boot?
[11:03] <meco> rww: I want to delete a directory which has drwxr-xr-x.
[11:03] <testi_> I can reach samba servers on debian lenny with smbtree (doing broadcast), but i can't reach samba servers running on karmic - though access and name resolving works, in case you know the hostname. Local network is an ipv4 network, however karmic samba listens on an ipv6 address - this shouldn't be a problem theoretically, but seems to be practically. What can I do on which side to solve this?
[11:03] <zilkomaa> Can some1 help me please, after ubuntu 9.10 install i cant boot from grub to windows xp? It doesn't give any error messages just reloads grub again? Here is disk info's: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362528/    -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362530/
[11:03] <coz_> pat|nG,  you can use either gdm or kde it shouldnt matter
[11:03] <coz_> pat|nG,  kdm is prettier :)
[11:03] <rww> meco: if you own it, you should just be able to do "rm -r directoryname". If not, "sudo rm -r directoryname".
[11:04] <Student> researcher1: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[11:04] <meco> rww: It worked!
[11:05] <jenda> Say I have a text file with semi-private info in (login names, unimportant passwords, bank account numbers (but no passwords, just so I can copy-paste them)), but I still don't want it to be accessible to anyone who walks by the machine - is there a reasonable and simple way to password protect it? I chown'd it to root:root, but I'm not sure if that really makes any sense.
[11:05] <meco> What's the command to see how much free hard disk space there is?
[11:05] <hawodi> Am having a very weired problem. I have a cdma broadband internet connection via an express card which works well. The connection is disconnected when ever I connect a network cable on the same computer. Is it that I cannot use the broadband card and connect to my network at the same time?
[11:05] <zetheroo> read on a blog that 64bit ubuntu "lacks tickless" so laptops will experience less battery power
[11:05] <zetheroo> is this still an issue?
[11:06] <jenda> Oh, and I usually access the file with "cat" in the terminal.
[11:06] <rww> meco: df
[11:06] <meco> ok
[11:06] <rww> meco: (stands for Disk Free)
[11:06] <coz_> zetheroo,  how important is the lapttop install you have now?
[11:06] <rww> meco: if you do "df -H", it'll use more readable units.
[11:07] <zetheroo> coz_: haha ... uh .. only my main machine :)
[11:07] <hawodi> anyone here?
[11:07] <coz_> zetheroo,  one of the best ways I know to find out if issues show up is to actually give it a try...you already have the 32 bit cd ...download the 64 bit cd and install it and test it :)   you can always reinstall the 32 bit if you prefer that :)
[11:07] <geirha> jenda: Try pwsafe instead of a text file
[11:07] <meco> rww: I set up 8.04 on a 10GB partition. Now there's about 5.5 GB free. Is that enough to install 9.10 in addition?
[11:08] <coz_> meco,  you would be cutting it a bit close   ...not much room for downloads etc
[11:08] <rww> meco: It's doable, but I wouldn't recommend it.
[11:08] <zetheroo> coz_:: installing an OS is not the issue .. I have a lot of data and a lot of apps installed and configured as I want ... I wipe this system and start afresh means a lot more work than just installing an OS
[11:08] <meco> coz_: Right
[11:08] <meco> rww: ok
[11:09] <coz_> zetheroo,  ah  ok that's probably what I meant about how important this install is
[11:09] <zetheroo> coz_: I have learned in Linux to really make sure making a change is going to make things better and not worse ... :)
[11:10] <Laibsch> Can I have update-grub add "savedefault 1" to every entry in menu.lst instead of just "savedefault"?
[11:10] <coz_> zetheroo,  you should also keep in mind that backing up is part of the deal... I generally go by "if I cannot reinstall at any given moment I am probably doing something wrong "
[11:11] <coz_> zetheroo,  many applications have settings you can back up for reinstallation
[11:11] <Student> coz_ couldn't you make a separate partition for your home directory and keep files there then install ubuntu again and tell it not to touch the partition? (Just curious)
[11:11] <zetheroo> coz_: yes ...
[11:11] <coz_> Student,  that is alwyas an option
[11:12] <zetheroo> coz_: also living in Australia means I have sucky Internet  ... :P  ... so yeah ... just making sure its going to be worth it ... it sounds good ... but then again people are saying they have not been noticing any performance diff ...
[11:13] <coz_> zetheroo,  well your issue isnt performance but rather the system recognizing all of the memory right?
[11:13] <landswipe> i'm having trouble installing git-daemon-run
[11:13] <homeboy> hello again, i can't get gksu -u user to work
[11:13] <landswipe> for some reason when I do dpkg --listfiles git-daemon-run
[11:13] <zetheroo> coz_: the only reason I want the system to use all the RAM is for higher performance :)
[11:13] <pehden> im using xChat how do i make this log in
[11:13] <landswipe> and it clearly stats /etc/sv/git-daemon/run should be installed
[11:13] <rumpsy> homeboy: just use gksu
[11:13] <pehden> when i load it
[11:14] <landswipe> i've tried reinstalling, and dpkg-reconfigure but the /etc/sv/git-daemon/run folder is never installed.
[11:14] <homeboy> but i need just if my gf tries to launch picasa, it asks for password
[11:14] <homeboy> any password that she don't know will do
[11:14] <coz_> zetheroo,  mm  ok understood... then the choice is dependent of if you want to go through the installation procedure and test the 64 bit version or not  right ?
[11:15] <rumpsy> homeboy: remove your gf name from sudo
[11:15] <zetheroo> coz_: yep ... choices choices :)  ... I am looking up performance benchmarks online ... interesting stuff ...
[11:17] <rumpsy> homeboy:goto useraccount, and then choose your gf account and uncheck administrate system in properties
[11:17] <coz_> zetheroo,  tthe most comprehensive benchmark is  this one  http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/  however it is a pain in the butt ,,,my opinion
[11:18] <zilkomaa> Can some1 help me please, after ubuntu 9.10 install i cant boot from grub to windows xp? It doesn't give any error messages just reloads grub again after pressing enter on windows xp? Here is disk info's: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362528/    -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362530/
[11:18] <zetheroo> coz_: oh yeah ...? ... ok well I was looking for benchmark results ... I don't really want to do all that work - ha
[11:19] <coz_> zetheroo,  oh ok :)
[11:19] <pehden> lol
[11:20] <www> lol
[11:20] <landswipe> how do I force reinstallation of a package if it is not installing a file that is clearly one in dpkg --listfiles
[11:20] <landswipe> is there a way to reset dpkg or apt-get?
[11:21] <zetheroo> coz_: found this  ... PAE kernel and 64bit kernel run very close http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[11:21] <ksbalaji> yesterday my modem failed to connect. I tinkered a bit and believe that it is because of a website stopbadware.org cookies. Now my connection has resumed surprisingly. can someone say what this stopbadware.org is about please?
[11:21] <indus> landswipe, man dpkg might help
[11:21] <pehden> sudo apt-get purge
[11:21] <zetheroo> coz_: well on the first one anyhow .. ha
[11:21] <pehden> that will remove all of it to start a fresh install
[11:22] <landswipe> indus: what am I looking for?
[11:22] <coz_> zetheroo,  interesting...so not too much difference at all
[11:22] <coz_> zetheroo,   so the decision is do you need the recognized memory for just everyday stuff then
[11:22] <ksbalaji> hey! what has happened to firestarter? a new version is not available!
[11:22] <indus> landswipe, tried dpkg -force?
[11:23] <nibbler> zetheroo: http://pastebin.com/m4ade9c24 add this to your menu.lst, and see if you can boot any of these entrys (done quick, 1 or two are wong for sure...)
[11:23] <MohammadRRR> Hi I Have A lot of .deb files and i have created Packages.gz file . now i want to make Release File What Should I DO ?
[11:23] <zetheroo> coz_: well yeah  .. I am looking at where the main differences of performance come into the picture
[11:23] <indus> landswipe, use at your own risk, i have no idea how it works
[11:23] <recon69_lap> hmm, avg reporting nothing. is it actually scanning anything?
[11:23] <zetheroo> nibbler: uhm ... what?
[11:24] <coz_> zetheroo,  I would use that last link as a reliable source
[11:24] <pehden> landswipe: you could use sudo apt-get purge target-app tor unistall and delete all conf files
[11:24] <nibbler> zetheroo: sorry
[11:24] <nibbler> zilkomaa:  http://pastebin.com/m4ade9c24 add this to your menu.lst, and see if you can boot any of these entrys (done quick, 1 or two are wong for sure...)
[11:24] <landswipe> ah that sounds like it
[11:24] <zetheroo> coz_: sorry what link?
[11:24] <pehden> landswipe to start a fresh install
[11:24] <coz_> zetheroo,    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[11:25] <landswipe> that did it ;)
[11:25] <indus> apt-get purge is to remove all old files with configuration
[11:25] <landswipe> thanks for the 'purge' hint
[11:25] <pehden> i had to use it today
[11:25] <zetheroo> coz_: that's what I am looking at :)
[11:26] <pehden> landswipe no prob
[11:26] <pehden> indus yes
[11:27] <philipwn> let's say i have a /dev/sda4 partition, that makes it hd(0,3 or 4)?
[11:27] <indus> yeah no need of using apt-get remove -purge
[11:27] <indus> works directly
[11:28] <pat|nG> i'm in a way of processing my installation to ubuntu in terminal...and got stuck in this setting up gnome-pilot-conduits.....processing triggers for python-support....then pating@pating:~$ what will i do next!?
[11:28] <pehden> indus i would have done that one today first if i thought of it lol
[11:28] <indus> pehden, which one
[11:29] <pehden> indus apt-get remove -purge
[11:29] <pat|nG> anyone?
[11:29] <pat|nG> i don't know what to do next
[11:29] <pat|nG> :(
[11:29] <indus> pehden, yea but just purge works good too
[11:29] <indus> pat|nG,
[11:29] <pehden> indus i had to use purge cause it wouldnt remove lol
[11:30] <indus> pat|nG, its finished isnt it
[11:30] <pat|nG> indus: i just purged kubuntu and install ubuntu....and stuck in processing triggers for python-support....
[11:30] <indus> pat|nG, stuck?
[11:30] <pat|nG> is it finished?
[11:30] <indus> pat|nG, howdid you purge kubuntu?
[11:30] <pehden> pat|nG you should have google pure ubuntu
[11:30] <indus> pat|nG, if it comes back to $ then its
[11:30] <pehden> pat|nG you should have google pure gnome
[11:30] <indus> it is
[11:30] <pat|nG> sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <pat|nG> then got back to root:~$
[11:31] <indus> pat|nG, ya its done
[11:31] <pat|nG> bet it's finished isn't it?
[11:31] <indus> pat|nG, did you restart system?
[11:31] <indus> u scared?:)
[11:31] <pehden> lol should have went to that pure gnome site
[11:31] <indus> pehden, what do you mean pure gnome site
[11:32] <suigeneris> is there a bug in chown? I type chown and the first two or three characters of the user, hit tab and user\: comes up. then I try adding the same user as the group and tab doesn't accept it. what gives?
[11:32] <Newky> pat|nG: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[11:32] <pehden> newky yea that site
[11:32] <MohammadRRR> Hi I Have A lot of .deb files and i have created Packages.gz file . now i want to make Release File What Should I DO ?
[11:32] <CyL> I'm having with skype, my mic simply doesn't work, any advice?
[11:32] <geirha> suigeneris: I get the same, but it
[11:33] <Newky> CyL: 9.10?
[11:33] <indus> MohammadRRR, wrong channel i think
[11:33] <CyL> Newky: yeap
[11:33] <indus> MohammadRRR, wait
[11:33] <pehden> Cyl pulse audio is needed
[11:33] <geirha> suigeneris: I get the same, but it's not a bug with chmod, it's a problem with the configuration of bash completion
[11:33] <geirha> suigeneris: *chown
[11:33] <Newky> CyL: have u went into the sound preferences? and tryed the different audio servers for input
[11:33] <pat|nG> Newky: so wat will i do then?
[11:33] <suigeneris> geirha so what should I do?
[11:34] <CyL> pehden: I gues I have this installed, I'll check
[11:34] <Newky> pat|nG: do the remove kubuntu command, u probably have most of it removed
[11:34] <geirha> suigeneris: Type it in manually ... username:groupname
[11:34] <Newky> CyL: if u are using 9.10 u hav pulseaudio
[11:34] <nmvictor> is their a way i could install the kernel in karmic in jaunty?
[11:34] <CyL> Newky: I guess I only have one sound server
[11:34] <pat|nG> Newky: how?
[11:34] <pat|nG> i just purged it
[11:34] <pat|nG> and install ubuntu
[11:34] <Newky> do u see the
[11:34] <indus> MohammadRRR, try contacting the motu
[11:34] <pat|nG> but i still got the kubuntu themes and the K icond
[11:34] <MohammadRRR> indus : TNX
[11:34] <suigeneris> geirha I can, but isn't that a bit annoying?
[11:35] <Newky> pat|nG: well have u tried restart that will remove all kde apps libs etc
[11:35] <indus> MohammadRRR, #ubuntu-motu
[11:35] <CyL> Newky: I'll head to the sound preferences than...
[11:35] <Newky> pat|nG: by that i mean, that command on that website will remove all kde apps lips etc
[11:35] <Newky> CyL: yeah wait there was a website i saw that dealed with skype audio
[11:35] <indus> MohammadRRR, they can probably guide you in case you are making universe packages
[11:35] <CyL> Newky: okay
[11:35] <triple-06> oi
[11:35] <meco> I have Ubuntu 2.6.24-24 and 2.6.24-26. Could I remove the older version, and would that save up much disk space?
[11:36] <geirha> suigeneris: usernames and groupnames are usually so short and easy, that I've never used tab-completion for it.
[11:36] <jenda> appreciability and expressibility - do they sound very alien?
[11:36] <nmvictor> is their a way i could install the kernel in karmic in jaunty?
[11:36] <pehden> cly i would try to help your more with the sound but i fixed mine by accident
[11:36] <pat|nG> Newky: how can i get to the site using terminal? it seems i can't open my firefox now
[11:36] <king6cong> hello
[11:36] <indus> jenda, no
[11:36] <pehden> cyl i would try to help your more with the sound but i fixed mine by accident
[11:37] <rumpsy> meco, its not a big file as you thinking about
[11:37] <king6cong> do you play savage2?
[11:37] <king6cong> anyone like it?
[11:37] <meco> rumpsy: Huh?
[11:37] <king6cong> who is good at play savage2?
[11:37] <meco> king6cong: What is it?
[11:37] <CyL> pehden: lol, sometimes good things also happen by accident ;)
[11:37] <rumpsy> meco: leave it, its not a space occupier
[11:38] <king6cong> it is a great game that can be played under Ubuntu
[11:38] <meco> rumpsy: OK!
[11:38] <pehden> cyl i agree
[11:38] <Newky> CyL: i know this sounds ridiculous bu have u gone into your volume control and checked ur mic volume>
[11:38] <meco> king6cong: Can I use the Synaptic installer to install it?
[11:38] <CyL> Newky: In fact it is now so ridiculous... everytime I start alsamixer, the mic is muted....
[11:39] <Newky> CyL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308090
[11:39] <CyL> Newky: But indeed, I eveytime change it's volume setting
[11:39] <Newky> CyL: does sound recoder work?
[11:40] <catherine> 大家好
[11:40] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:41] <CyL> Newky: have not tryied it yet... I'll try it...
[11:41] <ksbalaji> is firestarter obsolete please?
[11:41] <Student> Hey everyone. I just installed Karmic 64 bit and am getting an error 15 from grub. I did a fdisk -l and I think it's because my second drive is set as the boot drive. Any ideas?
[11:41] <pehden> ,,,
[11:42] <pehden> um huh
[11:42] <Newky> Student: try this http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/
[11:42] <test_> ?
[11:43] <CyL> Newky: no, it is not working
[11:44] <Newky> CyL: Sound recorder?
[11:44] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: What?
[11:45] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: What you want?
[11:45] <CyL> Newky: yes... the sound recorder is not recording
[11:45] <abhijit> hi
[11:45] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: Figure out clearly
[11:45] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, I had firestarter installed. I removed it and tried to reinstall it. My synaptic manager says it is no longer available. any idea?
[11:46] <rumpsy> hmm, what version of ubuntu you are using?
[11:46] <Newky> CyL: its one of those things u gotta mess with a little bit, it took me ages, i jus kept googling it and found a solution eventually bu it was mostly in the sound preferences
[11:47] <claudia_> Hi am trying to install skype but it is asking for a password
[11:47] <Myrtti> claudia_: did you try giving out your own?
[11:47] <claudia_> yip many times
[11:47] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, is there any other firewall program good enough and easy (gui) to understand?
[11:47] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: ufw es oficial en ubuntu y existe guwf
[11:48] <geirha> ksbalaji: Make sure universe is enabled in System -> Administration -> Software sources
[11:48] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: ufw is official in ubuntu and you have guwf as a gui
[11:48] <CyL> Newky: Well, thanks for your advice buddy
[11:48] <claudia_> I am trying with debian package
[11:48] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: reload after you change in synaptic package manager
[11:48] <Newky> CyL: sorry, literally varies from system to system, wats ur setup?
[11:48] <erUSUL> !info ufw
[11:48] <erUSUL> !info gufw
[11:48] <hudo> how can I detect distinct memory information (hardware infos)
[11:49] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, geirha but ufw, guwf - not easy for me please.
[11:49] <erUSUL> hudo: "sudo lshw | less" or "sudo dmidecode | less"
[11:49] <doolyes> #ubuntu-ko
[11:49] <geirha> ksbalaji: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[11:49] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, ? what do I change in synaptic?
[11:49] <pat|nG> hello?
[11:50] <rumpsy> in synaptic goto repositories and choose universal, to take effect, reload it, press reload button
[11:51] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: ^^
[11:51] <bnoble> hi everyone
[11:52] <CyL> Newky: no problem, I'm wirh Ubuntu 9.10 on a Asus 1005HA
[11:52] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: universal is a repository for lots ubuntu package, checkin and reload
[11:52] <ahnboyoung> hi
[11:52] <bnoble> hi Rachel
[11:52] <ahnboyoung> :-)
[11:53] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, I have universal repository enabled. I have repository line for that. However I do not see details of firestarter firewall there. I think it is gone for goodl
[11:54] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: what version of ubuntu you are running?
[11:54] <ksbalaji> mine is old-gold hardy LTS!
[11:54] <rumpsy> cool
[11:55] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/firestarter , check here
[11:55] <pawel__> any ideas how to mount my mobile phone through usb ?
[11:55] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, thanks and bye all of you!
[11:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawel__, aint it suposed to be automatic:
[11:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> ?
[11:56] <pawel__> yes it should be but somehow it doesnt
[11:56] <pawel__> its only with my mobile, if it is about mp3 player it works fine
[11:56] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: happy Republic day, in advance
[11:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawel__, wich mobile you're trying:]
[11:56] <anoob> hi... is there a battery / volume controll / network icon to fluxbox systray?
[11:56] <pawel__> samsung lucido
[11:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> **** keybord
[11:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawel__, check de logs, plug-in and type in terminal `dmesg`
[11:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> the laste lines should say something about new hardware
[11:57] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, Hey! Thanks! r u ind? wish u d same!
[11:57] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: yes !
[11:57] <pawel__> ugm, a lot of info appeared
[11:58] <montom> hi guys i have installed a cairo-dock on ubuntu 9.10 and the main panel in hidden , i cant see the network manager and volume control .. any help?
[11:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawel__, you can copy the results in pvt (last lines)
[11:58] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: could you able to install firestarter now?
[11:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> -J ?
[11:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> don't remember that
[11:59] <rww> AndreMorro[BR]: Join throttling
[12:00] <thiagoss> Sound has gone bad on my karmic. It is 'basser' than it should, like when you slow down audio and voices get weird (don't know the proper name for this in english, sorry)
[12:00] <thiagoss> Has anyone faced this here?
[12:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> rww, ty
[12:00] <montom> AndreMorro[BR] i have installed a cairo-dock on ubuntu 9.10 and the main panel in hidden , i cant see the network manager and volume control .. please help
[12:01] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, enjoy yr free holiday! -bt firestarter- some problem. synaptic says -Package firestarter has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or  not available with the contents of sources.list,,,,,,
[12:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> montom, I'm afraid I cant help you, never used cairo-dock
[12:01] <montom> hi guys i have installed a cairo-dock on ubuntu 9.10 and the main panel in hidden , i cant see the network manager and volume control .. anyone ..
[12:01] <dnivra> montom, is it that cairo-dock is covering those icons or is it that the network manager icon is not present there?
[12:02] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: use this, apt-get install netselect-apt ans apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean
[12:02] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: use this, apt-get install netselect-apt and apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean
[12:02] <indus> ksbalaji, use gufw
[12:02] <indus> ksbalaji, i believe you are looking for a firewall?
[12:03] <ksbalaji> indus, thanks but gufw is too complicated for me. I had firestarter but now gone.
[12:03] <montom> dnivra : the network manager was on the main panel when i installed the cairo-dock and launched it the main panel disappeared so did the network manager
[12:03] <indus> ksbalaji, complicated??ufw stands for uncomplicated firewall
[12:04] <sakthivel> how to install .sh file extension
[12:04] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, let me try.
[12:04] <dnivra> montom, so you don't have a panel on top?
[12:04] <indus> ksbalaji, the gui for g ufw is very similar to firestarter
[12:04] <erUSUL> sakthivel: what are you trying to install ?
[12:04] <sakthivel> netbeans
[12:04] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: after all, try apt-get install firestarter
[12:04] <montom> dnivra , nope i dont have..
[12:05] <indus> firestarter seems oprhaned now with some security issues i heard
[12:05] <ksbalaji> indus, I have ufw disabled. me at 50 + find it difficult.
[12:05] <montom> dnivra : how do i restore that panel ?
[12:05] <erUSUL> !find netbeans
[12:05] <erUSUL> sakthivel: netbeans is on the repositories
[12:05] <dnivra> montom, perhaps you should rephrase the question as "I lost my gnome panel on top. how do I get it back?". I don't know how to but someone else might. try searching google how to meanwhile you wait.
[12:05] <erUSUL> !info netbeans
[12:06] <indus> ksbalaji, ufw disabled?how did you disable it?
[12:06] <sakthivel> yes. but i need php version not available
[12:06] <Oli``> gparted crashed and now "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage" is locked - how can I manually unlock it?
[12:07] <administrator_> how to change the login screen? ubuntu 9.04?
[12:07] <erUSUL> indus: less /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
[12:07] <ksbalaji> indus, ufw disable!
[12:08] <dnivra> administrator_, try "gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties". if this doesn't work, google how to. should get.
[12:08] <administrator_> ok
[12:09] <hetii> hi :)
[12:09] <administrator_> it is not opening
[12:10] <dnivra> montom, here's a way to restore the panels. I've not tried it. give it a shot. http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[12:10] <Student> Well I'll be back and see if I fixed my grub.
[12:10] <administrator_> ok thnx i got from net.
[12:10] <administrator_> thnx
[12:10] <administrator_> by
[12:10] <hetii> hoc can i build from this two multi dimensional directory one? {'aaa': {'bbb': {'c': {}}}} and {'aaa': {'bbb': {'d': {}}}}  expected result: {'aaa': {'bbb': {'d': {}, 'c': {}}}}  ??
[12:10] <hetii> *how :)
[12:10] <pokerov> hello everybody
[12:11] <rww> ubottu: ot | hetii
[12:11] <xxthink> How to restore my 64 bit ubuntu?
[12:11] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | danielck montom
[12:11] <hetii> ups sorry i frgot change channel :)
[12:11] <xxthink> I update the kernel to 2.6.32
[12:12] <xxthink> Now I want to go back to the original kernel of ubuntu 9.10
[12:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> xxthink, there should be others kernels to choose to boot on in grub
[12:12] <xxthink> I installed it on vbox
[12:12] <xxthink> when I boot the linux, I can't see the boot menu
[12:12] <KaffeeJunky123> any1 here got some knowledge on ACPI and some time to look through some errors and warnings in my systemlogs?
[12:12] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, :apt-get install firestarter = Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree   Reading state information... Done Package firestarter is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package firestarter has no installation candidate balaji@viva100:~$
[12:12] <erUSUL> xxthink: remove the kernel you installed
[12:13] <xxthink> erUSUL: How to remove it?
[12:13] <xxthink> what command?
[12:13] <erUSUL> xxthink: how did you installed it?
[12:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> xxthink, try pressing down arrow or ESC under during boot
[12:13] <montom> ubottu : can u set two panels so that they are launched  when the session is started
[12:13] <montom> ?
[12:13] <xxthink> AndreMorro[BR]: let me try
[12:13] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: i think you have to include some repo in synaptic
[12:14] <rumpsy> ksbalaji: try to add something and remove it after install, but remember to apt-get update
[12:14] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: go to system>admin...>software sources. in the first tab tick all relevan repos univers multiverse etc
[12:14] <xxthink> AndreMorro[BR]: it doesn't work
[12:14] <xxthink> erUSUL: how to remove the new kernel I just installed？
[12:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> xxthink, <erUSUL> xxthink: how did you installed it?
[12:15] <ksbalaji> rumpsy, you may be right. let me check up all repos. erUSUL K i shall.
[12:15] <xxthink> dpkg -i *.deb
[12:15] <erUSUL> xxthink: first i need to know how did you installed it?
[12:15] <rumpsy> ;)
[12:15] <xxthink> erUSUL: I use the following command
[12:15] <xxthink> dpkg -i *.deb
[12:15] <erUSUL> xxthink: then remove it from synaptic just like any other package
[12:15] <erUSUL> xxthink: search for the package name
[12:15] <pat|nG> Newky: still there?
[12:16] <xxthink> ok
[12:16] <xxthink> let me try
[12:16] <evilsherpa> hey all, no love, cant get connected to my nas, ive set up an smbcredentials file, with the login and username for my nas, but i get this permission not granted error
[12:16] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, except  sourcecode everything else checked!
[12:16] <pat|nG> how can i install ubuntu 9.10 thru net?
[12:17] <MohammadRRR> Hi I Have A lot of .deb files and i have created Packages.gz file . now i want to make Release File What Should I DO ? I Can not join to ubuntu-motu to ask this Question
[12:18] <Myrtti> MohammadRRR: why can't you join the channel?
[12:18] <elkusa> hi
[12:18] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: close the dialog; it should ask to reload the sources info but just to make sure run « sudo aptitude update »
[12:19] <rww> Myrtti: It's +r and they aren't registered
[12:19] <Myrtti> rww: not surprised
[12:19] <MohammadRRR> Myrtti : It Said You Must Identify
[12:19] <Myrtti> !register > MohammadRRR
[12:19] <elkusa> hi all
[12:19] <elkusa> asalamu alaikum
[12:20] <MohammadRRR> !register > MohammadRRR
[12:20] <elkusa> halo
[12:21] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, yeah! It offered to reload and I am trying it.
[12:21] <Myrtti> !minimal | pat|nG
[12:21] <xxthink> erUSUL: thank you!!!
[12:21] <MohammadRRR> Murtti:where should i register ?
[12:21] <apelgate> hello
[12:21] <rww> MohammadRRR: please read the private message you got from ubottu
[12:21] <einstein1969> hi, how to change level to single mode in ubuntu?
[12:21] <Myrtti> MohammadRRR: to freenode. /msg nickserv help register
[12:22] <apelgate> where do I change network config on an ubuntu linux in text mode?
[12:22] <adante> hi guys, if anybody wants to do some tech support and earn some easy money http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddzcv779_2c2gqrkv8
[12:22] <rww> apelgate: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:22] <erUSUL> xxthink: yw
[12:22] <rww> apelgate: see `man interfaces` for configuration help.
[12:22] <apelgate> thank's
[12:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> erUSUL, any tips on how to compiling to frind pawel__  ?
[12:24] <sandeep_> how to identify in irc
[12:24] <evilsherpa> hmm, i have a laptop with nas access and I tried copying the fstab file and the cifs/smb credentials file, but no love
[12:24] <Myrtti> sandeep_: /msg nickserv help identify
[12:24] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, thanks! rumpsy got it! thanks all and bye!
[12:25] <rumpsy> ;) , bye
[12:25] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: yw
[12:25] <saviorfromthenor> hello
[12:26] <saviorfromthenor> can anyone help me?
[12:26] <AndreMorro[BR]> saviorfromthenor, maybe
[12:26] <saviorfromthenor> hehe, cute answer
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[12:27] <saviorfromthenor> i just need to know what language i should learn to make applications in ubuntu
[12:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> Je*** i love thos !things
[12:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> saviorfromthenor, python, perl, C, C+,C++,
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  depends on the app.  You can use Python for a great many tasks.. easy to learn.. powerfull... and so on
[12:28] <saviorfromthenor> i see,
[12:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> I agree with Dr_Willis Python makes greats things
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> many of the support apps in ubuntu are in python. and theres tons of docs/examples/tutorials
[12:29] <duffydack> when you close a program in scale mode (compiz) does it do it properly or kill it dirty
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> I suck at python >:) i tend to use perl
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> but my needs are minimal
[12:29] <coz_> duffydack,  "dirty"
[12:29] <coz_> duffydack,  let me try it here
[12:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> well i suck at both, i'm better designing interfaces
[12:30] <saviorfromthenor> i'm familiar with vb6, will python be easy for me
[12:30] <saviorfromthenor> this irc is so cool i really get related answers
[12:30] <rumpsy> bye guys, time to move :)
[12:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> saviorfromthenor, pretty much yeah, if you do undestand the "Programming Logic" it well be smooth
[12:30] <Student> Well I took the long way to fix my Grub 2 Error 15 but it worked.
[12:31] <saviorfromthenor> okay
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  i tend to find that VB teaches bad programming habbits.. Python tries to teach good habbits
[12:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> like Dr_Willis said, there are tons of examples and tutos on the net
[12:31] <saviorfromthenor> YES!
[12:31] <saviorfromthenor> that is so true
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  python is avail for windows also :)
[12:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> One good thing, you don't have to declare variables on python like VB6
[12:32] <saviorfromthenor> its okay, i really want to move to linux
[12:32] <saviorfromthenor> virus issues is so overwhelming these days
[12:32] <saviorfromthenor> oh
[12:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> just to remember that Linux also have virus, its way hard to get one but, still exists...
[12:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> so a few secutiry procedures are always welcome
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> of course some of the 'viruses' mentioned for linux.. are like 5+ yrs old.. and only affected one specific disrto and one specific 'service'.... :)
[12:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> Dr_Willis, thats right, but they're out there... just waiting...
[12:33] <saviorfromthenor> yeah, but i believe that destructive linux users is remote
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> waiting to find somthing with a 2.1 kernel and  bind 1.00000.1.00000
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> LOL
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  the biggest danger to your linux box will be YOU. :)
[12:34] <saviorfromthenor> lol
[12:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> I read somewhere that a Guy pis*** of made a few linux virus showing that is possible
[12:34] <saviorfromthenor> you guys are so kind
[12:35] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: do you know what hd_media is about
[12:35] <sabgenton> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> even the definiton of a 'virus' these days is often muddy.
[12:35] <polargus> has anybody successfully done a squashfs/unionfs mount of /usr on karmic?
[12:35] <saviorfromthenor> what is that?
[12:35] <sabgenton> aparently it will help me boot server from usbstick
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  no idea really. Looks liek it might be for some netboot
[12:36] <polargus> I just got a full usb install of ubuntu going
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  some minimal setup to get to the rest ot the thing
[12:36] <polargus> and I was thinking of squashing /usr
[12:36] <saviorfromthenor> im running my ubuntu from a usb
[12:36] <polargus> saviorfromthenor, cool me too
[12:36] <Student> sabgenton Those files let you boot off of a cd\dvd usb etc
[12:36] <polargus> are you running the liveusb version or a vanilla install?
[12:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> polargus, why would you squash your /usr ??
[12:36] <saviorfromthenor> i think its a liveusb
[12:36] <sabgenton> Student: where can I learn more about its purpose
[12:37] <retry> AndreMorro[BR], to reclaim space
[12:37] <retry> you have limited space on a usb
[12:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> Indeed...
[12:37] <saviorfromthenor> yeah
[12:37] <retry> also I read that a squashed filesystem reads faster
[12:37] <sabgenton> Student:hd-media
[12:37] <retry> and is less wear on the usb stick
[12:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> Ok, you convinced me
[12:37] <saviorfromthenor> i have a question for that about space in the usb
[12:37] <retry> saviorfromthenor, what does your fstab look like?
[12:38] <Student> sabgenton looking for a site with the info
[12:38] <retry> I used ext4 and turned journaling off
[12:38] <saviorfromthenor> when i uninstall a software the free space doesnt change
[12:38] <retry> and also set up sysctl to sync to the drive less
[12:38] <retry> it helped
[12:38] <retry> saviorfromthenor, yeah you can't reclaim free space on the squashed mount
[12:38] <retry> only the overlay
[12:38] <saviorfromthenor> i see
[12:38] <retry> so if you installed something after the squash into the overlay
[12:38] <retry> you can reclaim space from the overlay
[12:38] <retry> to reclaim space from the squashed part, you have to recompress
[12:39] <retry> that is why I did the vanilla install
[12:39] <retry> I wanted to remove all the stuff I dont want first
[12:39] <saviorfromthenor> then?
[12:39] <saviorfromthenor> sorry to be a newbie
[12:39] <retry> well now I'm contemplating the squashmount
[12:39] <sabgenton> Student: thanks man!
[12:39] <Student> sabgenton: http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX may be of some help
[12:39] <retry> but I dont know...I read mixed stuff about it succeeding in karmic
[12:39] <retry> also unionfs does not seem aailable
[12:40] <retry> there's some other aufs or something
[12:40] <saviorfromthenor> its just im so tired of xp
[12:40] <retry> what's wrong with XP?
[12:41] <retry> i'm not an OS fanboy...I use them all...I just hate apple for political reasons
[12:41] <saviorfromthenor> i feel its not what i need in the industry
[12:41] <retry> linux is fun, but it's a lot of work to get right
[12:42] <sabgenton> Student: there must be a proper ubuntu write up on that repo
[12:42] <retry> take this usb install...now granted I probably would have 10x more trouble getting XP on a usb key
[12:42] <sabgenton> an it's purpose
[12:42] <retry> but the usb key install is not perfect...it flakes out sometimes
[12:42] <saviorfromthenor> lol
[12:42] <Student> Eh My computer rebooted.
[12:42] <sera|work> after installing a 9.10 server i just had GRUB_ standing there at boot. i reinstalled, installed 9.04 (with lilo) and reinstalled again, no change
[12:42] <sera|work> any ideas?
[12:42] <sabgenton> Student: there must be a proper ubuntu write up on that repo
[12:43] <retry> sera, it's not much to go on
[12:43] <saviorfromthenor> its actually those things retry that make a good programmer
[12:43] <sabgenton> I hate reboots
[12:43] <retry> saviorfromthenor, what things?
[12:43] <Student> sabgenton: So basically Intrid is a ramdisk. It then loads the linux kernel etc into memory.
[12:43] <meco> How do I know if my PC is 32bit or 64bit?
[12:43] <retry> meco what is your cpu?
[12:43] <meco> Pentium something, not sure
[12:43] <saviorfromthenor> the need to test your capabilities
[12:43] <tomkat> does anyone know how do i kill apt-get?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> The fact you can do an usb install and they work so well.. is amazing  :)
[12:44] <retry> meco, 32 bit
[12:44] <meco> retry: OK
[12:44] <Student> sabgenton: Like your Bios loads your Operating system or boot loader as the case may be.
[12:44] <retry> tomkat, why would you want to kill it?
[12:44] <retry> that's risky
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> meco:  you might want to be more specific  on what the cpu is.. :)
[12:44] <DrPoodle> tomkat: doesn't pkill -9 apt-get work?
[12:44] <retry> pentiums are 32 bit
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> meco:  try a 64bit live cd.. see if it works. :P
[12:45] <sabgenton> Student: are u just talking about intrid in general or the intrid at that repo I linked to
[12:45] <sabgenton> ?
[12:45] <tomkat> thanks i'lkl try
[12:45] <retry> meco fire up konsole and type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:45] <Ergo^> hello, im having issued with buntu 9.10 and mic setup, before 9.10 in old audio panel i had a setting to change wheater i want to use line in or mic input on my sound blaster, now when i go to recording and try these settings, nothing changes, even when i amplify the mic to max i can barely record anything
[12:45] <retry> and tell us what you get
[12:45] <retry> !sound
[12:45] <sera|work> retry: well, i know...that's why i ended up asking here ;-)
[12:45] <saviorfromthenor> yeah i think the 64bit wont work, my old pc cant boot live cds
[12:46] <meco>  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
[12:46] <retry> Ergo^ try some of those links
[12:46] <tomkat> retry: operation not permitted
[12:46] <retry> yup i was right 32bit definitely
[12:46] <Student> sabgenton: That repo is the same thing I'm talking about.
[12:46] <Ergo^> LOL at that ;-) thats slightly outdated :P If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer)
[12:46] <Student> I'll check Ubuntu's site and see if there is more info on it.
[12:46] <sabgenton> ok that intrid specifically
[12:46] <retry> tomkat, why do you want to kill apt ?
[12:46] <sabgenton> i see
[12:47] <retry> Ergo^, you're right...you need a pulse guide
[12:47] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawel__ made this Samsung Lucido working under ubuntu, he set the mobile phone as Multimedia Player instead of USB-DISK, now he cad add things to the mobile, edit, and stuff
[12:47] <retry> a lot of people have had probs with sound in karmic
[12:47] <retry> !pulse
[12:47] <Ergo^> retry: i could do it with with old gnome audio panel just fine, not sure how to change things here
[12:47] <saviorfromthenor> uhm anyone want to suggest a good place to start learning python
[12:47] <retry> Ergo^, you probably have an underlying problem if the gnome mixer is not working
[12:48] <retry> if things are greyed out and whatnot
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  other then google? :)
[12:48] <saviorfromthenor> hehe, bringsup showmedo
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> saviorfromthenor:  i always to to the 'python game of the week' page.. but then i waste hours playing tgames
[12:48] <tomkat> i closed the terminal while apt-get was running, and now its still being used but invisible
[12:48] <Ergo^> retry: it IS working , i managed to amplify recording to max - but it sounds like a whisper now
[12:48] <retry> saviorfromthenor, diveintopython.org
[12:48] <root> hello
[12:48] <retry> Ergo^, hmm
[12:48] <saviorfromthenor> wait
[12:48] <retry> try to fire up the alsamixer
[12:48] <retry> and see if you can crank levels tehre
[12:48] <Student> sabgenton: Here you go: It's a hard disk kernel:http://do-it-blog.de/it-blog/linux-stuff/linux-iso-image-to-hard-disk-install
[12:48] <tomkat> now when i try 'sudo synaptic' it wont let me have priveliges
[12:49] <retry> go to cmdline and type alsamixer
[12:49] <retry> it's a curses based UI
[12:49] <retry> but pretty easy to work
[12:49] <retry> tomkat ok then type sudo killall apt-get
[12:49] <tomkat> retry: do you understand my problem?
[12:49] <tomkat> ahh thanks
[12:49] <Guest83261> guys how do i crack wep on backtrack?
[12:50] <sabgenton> Student: ah interesting
[12:50] <saviorfromthenor> retry, tanks
[12:50] <retry> Guest83261, that's not ubuntu related
[12:50] <Pici> Guest83261: We do not support Backtrack here, please use their channel: #remote-exploit
[12:50] <Guest83261> alright thnx:)
[12:50] <saviorfromthenor> just downloaded the books
[12:50] <Guest83261> which is better ubuntu or backtrack?
[12:50] <retry> for what?
[12:50] <Guest83261> cracking and hacking
[12:50] <Pici> !best | Guest83261
[12:50] <Myrtti> Guest83261: you'll get subjective answers here
[12:51]  * Dr_Willis finds that most people in here that ask about backtrack.. really shouldent be using backtrack....
[12:51] <persia> Could anyone tell me the right channel to ask about translations issues?
[12:51] <saviorfromthenor> hehe
[12:51] <Guest83261> why do u say so Dr_Willis?
[12:51] <retry> Guest, if you're just gonna be a script kiddie prolly use the distro will all the tools all ready to go
[12:51] <retry> with*
[12:52] <persia> Erm, I think I've found it.  Sorry for the noise.
[12:52] <tomkat> retry thanks for that it works now
[12:52] <retry> tomkat, cool
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Guest83261:  becuse peoel that come in here asking about it.. tend to not know enough linux basics to even begin to use the tools it has.
[12:52] <retry> I generally use apt-get when i know exactly what I want and synaptic when I was to read all the neat descriptions or do a keyword search
[12:52] <retry> like removing kde ...very useful to have synaptic for that
[12:53] <gdb> retry: You can do that in aptitude, on the command line.
[12:53] <retry> there's a whole group section called kde desktop or something to that effect
[12:53] <youwerman> so can I install windows 7 AFTER having installed ubuntu? I have xubuntu perfectly fine but I wonder if I could install windows 7 normally
[12:53] <hawodi> ?
[12:53] <retry> I never use aptitude
[12:53] <gdb> retry: aptitude show <package i want to read the neat description of>
[12:53] <retry> either apt or synaptic
[12:53] <atrl> hi
[12:53] <atrl> I have a question about dhcpd, Is it the same run this --> dhcpd eth0 than change in the file /etc/default/dhcp3-server the option INTERFACES ?
[12:53] <zewb> you are usually better off installing your software from the source code
[12:53] <zewb> rather than relying on broken ubuntu packages
[12:53] <retry> gdb, i find synaptic easier when i want to quickly read through many
[12:53] <gdb> aptitude is the recommended tool over apt
[12:53] <zewb> i thought they were the same
[12:53] <gdb> They are not the same.
[12:54] <zewb> apt-get works fine
[12:54] <retry> aptitude is a curses based version of synaptic pretty much
[12:54] <gdb> A bicyle works fine, too.  I prefer driving a car.
[12:54] <retry> they all call apt
[12:54] <Ergo^> retry: ok i managed to do it
[12:54] <gdb> retry: No, it's not.
[12:54] <zewb> i wish linux developers would come up with new things
[12:54] <gdb> retry: It has a curses UI, it's a command line tool just like apt-get is.
[12:54] <retry> ok synaptic is a GTK version of aptidude
[12:54] <saviorfromthenor> they do actually
[12:54] <zewb> theres always like 100 different programs that are slightly different forks from the original
[12:54] <gdb> No, it's not. heh
[12:54] <zewb> and all do the exact same thing
[12:54] <jiohdi> retry: yes I have cursed many times trying to use aptitude
[12:54] <gdb> No, they don't.
[12:54] <gdb> lol
[12:54] <iceroot> !ot | zewb
[12:55] <Ergo^> for some reason analog source was set to aux, not microphone, that setting is not present at all in pa panel
[12:55] <saviorfromthenor> yeah the do the same thing, but they improve
[12:56] <Ergo^> is there a gui version of alsamixer ?
[12:56] <retry> Ergo^, were you able to adjust it in alsamixer?
[12:57] <retry> not that I know of
[12:57] <retry> you can make a panel launcher for it though
[12:57] <SwedeMike> Ergo^: alsamixer-gui
[12:57] <atrl> I have a question about dhcpd, Is it the same run this --> dhcpd eth0 than change in the file /etc/default/dhcp3-server the option INTERFACES ?
[12:57] <Ergo^> retry: yeah, it looks basicly like the old audio panel from gnome
[12:57] <Quakes> Hey all i have a local network with a ubuntu web server im using 1to1 Nat Mapping to give the ubuntu machine a global ip but apache isnt accepting requests locally or externally on that ip turned off firewall and global address is pingable any ideas?
[12:57] <Ergo^> and it contained exact settings i need to change
[12:57] <hsa2> hello, is there anyone using scite for code editing?
[12:58] <saviorfromthenor> im new here
[12:58] <Myrtti> youwerman: you can install, but you need to reinstall a bootloader with an Ubuntu installation disk afterwards. Windows is a jealous OS, and wants to keep the harddrives all to itself.
[12:58] <casa> hola
[12:58] <atrl> casa hola que tal
[12:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, dind't understand your question
[12:58] <casa> uffff
[12:59] <saviorfromthenor> i had a drive breakdown once
[12:59] <casa> esto es nuevo para mi
[12:59] <Myrtti> !es
[12:59] <youwerman> Myrtti, thanks :D
[12:59] <casa> no caxo una
[12:59] <saviorfromthenor> when i tried a dual boot of pclinux os and xp
[12:59] <youwerman> Myrtti, where can I get a bootloader?
[12:59] <Ergo^> retry: well, no im not sure how to fix it long term, the settings dont persist
[12:59] <youwerman> oh
[12:59] <casa> sniffffffffffffffffffff
[12:59] <Ergo^> when i close the window i lose all recording capability again :/
[12:59] <youwerman> from the ubuntu disk
[12:59] <retry> which window?
[12:59] <casa> whooooooooo
[12:59] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] sorry my english. I want dhcpd listen on eth0 interface only
[13:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, you can edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[13:00] <atrl> and I'm reading you have to change the file /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[13:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, you're dhcpd, the server?
[13:00] <atrl> but you can also run "dhcpd eth0"
[13:00] <tec> hi
[13:00] <retry> atrl are you trying to run a dhcp client or a server?
[13:00] <atrl> and_ yes
[13:00] <atrl> server
[13:00] <atrl> are both options the same ?
[13:00] <retry> no
[13:00] <retry> very different
[13:01] <saviorfromthenor> anyway need to get back on my project, thanks again retry and dr willis
[13:01] <casa> puro inglihsssss
[13:01] <retry> ok see ya
[13:01] <casa> puro inglihsssss
[13:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, First the ethX that will listen on for dhcp need to be a fixed IP, then you can edit the /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[13:01] <casa> adiosssssssss
[13:01] <casa> bexos
[13:01] <casa> muakisss
[13:01] <atrl> casa besos
[13:01] <atrl> xD
[13:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, theres a INTERFACES="" change it to "INTERFACES="ethX"
[13:01] <casa> extraño el terra
[13:01] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] I undersntand you
[13:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> X must the the number of your interface
[13:01] <atrl> aprende ingles con vaughan :p
[13:01] <Ergo^> retry: heh it seems that alsamixer settings dont influence any pulseaudio settings, i could hear myself in speakers, but neither sound recorder or skype were able to record any sound :(
[13:01] <casa> naaaaaaa
[13:01] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] yes
[13:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> casa, cabron
[13:01] <Myrtti> casa: stop it, or you'll be muted or removed from the channel. Please use English.
[13:02] <casa> es imposible para mi
[13:02] <atrl> but then when you run this --> "dhcpd eth0" what are you doing ?
[13:02] <retry> Ergo^, very odd..I really dont understand the alsa/pulse relationship that well
[13:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, your asking eth0 to discover a IP from another server
[13:02] <outlaw94> lol\
[13:02] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] like a client ?
[13:02] <Ergo^> retry:  yeah, me neither, it worked perfectly pre 9.10, now i cant adjust that at all from giu
[13:02] <atrl> not like a server ?
[13:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, exactly
[13:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> like a client
[13:03] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] ok thanks you
[13:03] <casa> atrl cuando escribiran en español
[13:03] <Myrtti> !es > casa
[13:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> casa com le hace dito, español e en #ubuntu-es
[13:03] <atrl> casa no puedes hablar español aquí
[13:03] <jellow> How can i stop pulse audio , It keeps respawning
[13:03] <haurra> hi there, I have been wondering for age : how can I get rid of old shorcuts in the Places menu ?
[13:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, you can use the alacarte program
[13:04] <casa> atrl cual es la pagina de español aca
[13:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> oooops
[13:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> sorry
[13:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> wrong answer
[13:04] <FloodBot4> AndreMorro[BR]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> FloodBot4 sorry bot
[13:04] <atrl> casa ubuntu-es
[13:04] <atrl> they speak in spanish :p
[13:05] <haurra> I need an app for that ?
[13:05] <keddddddy> ive searched the forums but i cant seem to find a fix
[13:05] <dollarbang> Good morning all, just checking to see if I have PIDGIN setup correctly.
[13:05] <casa> atrl graciassssssssss
[13:05] <steelnwool> hi. in theory when the next LTS comes out should i be able to upgrade from Koala to LTS ?
[13:05] <keddddddy> some flash vids wont play on firefor/epiphany
[13:05] <jellow> dollarbang: Good'day seems to be working
[13:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, you can open nautilus (file-browser) ant press Ctrl B, this opens a Places Organizer
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> steelnwool:  yes
[13:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> you can remove, add, change...
[13:06] <dollarbang> jellow: thank you, have a good day today, and a better one tomorrow
[13:06] <haurra> AndreMorro[BR]: very good
[13:06] <jellow> dollarbang: i shall indeed
[13:07] <keddddddy> ive searched the forums but i cant seem to find a fix  some flash vids wont play on firefoxr/epiphany ...i did about:pluging and shockwave is installed and running. some videos will..some dont
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> AndreMorro[BR]:  Heh - Ive never noticed that befor. :)
[13:07] <Ergo^> i want to cry, who can i contact about PA and ubuntu integration ?
[13:07] <keddddddy> am i missing a certain package or something?
[13:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> Dr_Willis, the places editor?
[13:08] <AndreMorro[BR]> keddddddy, it depends, you're trying to watch flash vids? or WMP vids?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> AndreMorro[BR]:  yea - i just drag/drop them to the sidebar in teh file manager to add new ones
[13:08] <haurra> I have some space shared via samba, it appears in my places Menu, but I would like to create a link to it from my desktop, is that even possible ?
[13:08] <lsdluna> for some reason now that I come to use the following command - mplayer mms://url -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.asf ........ i get "-dumpstream: command not found" ? is there something I need to re-install?
[13:09] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, yeah you can, make a "Place" and place the location to the samba share
[13:09] <retry> lsdluna, does the url have a ; in it?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> haurra:  i was able to drag/drop a icon from my places/bookmarks menu to the desktop just now
[13:09] <AndreMorro[BR]> like "my Samba Share"  - Location - smb://mysambaserver/share
[13:09] <sandeepb> can anyone solve me a problem i had updated new ubuntu and it is giving me a error that mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot be mounted and giving a problem in swap
[13:09] <lsdluna> retry: no
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> haurra:  but it seems to only work that way for mounted locations
[13:10] <AndreMorro[BR]> sandeepb, can you be more specifc?
[13:10] <retry> lsdluna, strange that it says command not found ont he flag right after the url
[13:10] <NoReflex> Hey guys! I need to give samba access to 15 users to a fileserver. I've setup 15 accounts with shell = usr/bin/nologin and with their home dirs = /var/samba/username - is it enough to enable the home dirs section of smb.conf?; i'm using karmic server
[13:10] <steelnwool> Dr_Willis: good, i've got a bunch of machines that i'm now thinking should have been LTS, so once i upgrade karmic, i'll just keep them at LTS.
[13:10] <retry> karmic is not an LTS release
[13:10] <steelnwool> NoReflex: your best bet is to probably test.
[13:10] <retry> not every release is LTS steelnwool
[13:10] <haurra> Dr_Willis: if I do this, it copies the content
[13:10] <steelnwool> retry: i did not suggest it was.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> NoReflex:  give them samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' also perhaps
[13:11] <steelnwool> i know. re-read what i asked and said.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> haurra:  Hmm  thats annoying. :)
[13:11] <retry> you said once you upgrade karmic, you'll keep them lts
[13:11] <steelnwool> retry: i asked if i could upgrade karmic to LTS.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> haurra:  there is a feature to make gnome show the mounted things on teh desktop automatically
[13:11] <retry> karmic is the latest distro
[13:11] <steelnwool> i understand.
[13:11] <sandeepb> AndreMorro: i updated ubuntu to karmic and when i reboot the system it giving an error saying one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot be mounted
[13:11] <retry> you can wait for the next lts
[13:11] <[Outcast]> I am trying to install a login screen theme, but gdmsetup does not show anything about themes. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[13:11] <steelnwool> i'm talking future tense.
[13:11] <NoReflex> Dr_Willis: I did smbpasswd -a username for all users...but no file was created in /etc/samba -do I have to look for it someplace else?
[13:11] <retry> that wont be for a while
[13:11] <steelnwool> i know.
[13:11] <retry> ah ok
[13:12] <lsdluna> retry: thanks, i just realised i didnt use the mms url, used the http one lol
[13:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, you want a link of you share in the desktop??
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> NoReflex:  i think a lot of that is in /var/SOMTHING/samba
[13:12] <retry> sorry I missed your original q
[13:12] <steelnwool> np. busy channel.
[13:12] <sandeepb> AndreMorro: its giving problem at swap mounting
[13:12] <atrl> AndreMorro[BR] are you really sure dhcdp eth0 is for the client, because I'm reading that dhclient eth1 es for client and dhcpd eth0 es for running the server
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> NoReflex:  a read of the samba books avail in the samba-doc package may be worth while
[13:12] <haurra> AndreMorro[BR]: yes please
[13:12] <retry> atrl, it doesn't matter which # you pick
[13:12] <retry> it depends on the device you want to assign to which role
[13:12] <retry> assuming you even have two NICs
[13:12] <phox_> Hi! So im trying to connect to my ubuntu from my windows pc, and i just installed samba, and it says a need some password and username. I tried the same as my username and password is for the ubuntu-comp, but it didnt work. What to do?
[13:12] <pat|nG> i just downloaded a theme and it is GDM-CompetingEntities.tar.gz how can i install it? it seems there's an error installing it...
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> NoReflex:  I recall there being some trick to make the users home's be a default share they access also with some settings.. saves a little effort at times
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> NoReflex:  /var/lib/samba has some neat configs also. :) that you proberly shouldnt be touching
[13:13] <retry> atrl, so if you're trying to have a server route traffic, one NIC would face the WAN, the other would face the LAN and serve DHCP assignments
[13:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, not sure how to do that...
[13:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> haurra, never done links to a samba share
[13:13] <zetheroo> is there a way to be able to right-click on a file and select "open as root" or something ?
[13:13] <toogreen> any1 else have choppy sound recently in several apps (vlc, sdl games, etc) I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 64bits... Just recently started having choppy sound
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  its very likely its a theme for the older versiion of gdm - the newer version in 9.10 is not very themeable
[13:14] <pat|nG> i see
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  i recall the ubuntu-tweak tool having a check box to add somthing like that.
[13:14] <atrl> retry yes I understand you but then with "dhcpd eth0" you server listen dhcpdiscover on eth0 interface
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  but i  nevber tried  that feature
[13:14] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: ok thakns
[13:14] <phox_> Hi! So im trying to connect to my ubuntu from my windows pc, and i just installed samba, and it says a need some password and username. I tried the same as my username and password is for the ubuntu-comp, but it didnt work. What to do?
[13:14] <atrl> isn't it ?
[13:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, you don't actually need to run any commands to run the server
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  thers also nautilus scripting features to add it.  i recall there being some 'edit as root....'  thing somewhere
[13:15] <retry> phox_, samba has its own auth mechanism
[13:15] <retry> although I think you can tweak it to use user accounts via pam or something
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  sudo smbpasswd -a user   to set the samba password
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> retry:  yea theres some way to sync the 2 passwords.. but ive never learned how. :)
[13:15] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: yeah ... I thought I saw that somewhere at some point in time
[13:15] <phox_> Dr_Willis: okey!
[13:15] <pat|nG> can anyone teach me how to put some design apps on my gnome desktop? like i want to have a digital clock calendar and weather somethin? pls?
[13:16] <retry> Dr_Willis, pam, LDAP (ycuk)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  thers seeral ways to get widgits for the desktop. (i hate them all)   google desktop can have widgits if ya want.
[13:16] <retry> pat|nG, right click on a panel and add applets
[13:16] <retry> there are applets for all that
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  or use conky for desktop  gizmos
[13:16] <AndreMorro[BR]> atrl, Basics: You install dhcp3-server, edit the "/etc/default/dhcp3-server" and modify the INTERFACES="" to your ethX that will listen on the network, then edit the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to configure the subnets and masks, the restart the dhcp3-server service... and it should flow
[13:16] <retry> Dr_Willis, yeah willis most of the applets suck...tons of ram that is
[13:16] <phox_> Dr_Willis: okey, so i entered the ubuntu comp now. But there are no files on it! Which map am i currently reading, and how do i change that?
[13:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, am I right?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> I perfer the good old Windowmaker warf docklets.
[13:17] <Ergo^> retry: i think the problem with PA right now is that its not setting correctly the capture device, while i set it to mic it probably still uses aux
[13:17] <redspike> doses ubuntu 9.10 server working as xen dom0 ?
[13:17] <retry> AndreMorro[BR], you sound right...I'm not an expert on setting up dhcpd servers
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  where does it say you are at?  did you make a share? or shareing what exactly?
[13:17] <retry> I just use my router with tomato :/
[13:17] <retry> that's just zeroconfig
[13:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> gotcha
[13:17] <sabgenton> what do yo call karmic
[13:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> well, thats the way i usually do it...
[13:17] <sabgenton> the release name?
[13:18] <sabgenton> i mean is there an offical term for it?
[13:18] <meco> I just downloaded a game (Savage 2) and it comes in a .bin file. What do I do with it?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !karmic
[13:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> sabgenton, Karmic Coala (aka 9.10)
[13:18] <phox_> Dr_willis: i just installed samba from software center, and logged in. But the map i reach is blank! Can i configure this somehow so that i acces the external harddrive on the ubuntu comp?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> meco:  chmod +x whatever.bin   then ./whatever.bin
[13:18] <sabgenton> yeah but is i call the release name
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  samba has 100000000's of configurations
[13:18] <meco> Dr_Willis: OK
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  right click on a directroy. make a share out of it perhaps..
[13:19] <phox_> Dr_willie: haha, yeah i though so xD OKey, ill try
[13:19] <sabgenton> ubuntu <release no> <release name>
[13:19] <sabgenton> is that how u would state it
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  the version # is the same as the date of release.. year.month
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu 9.04  = 2009, 4th month
[13:20] <Audible> apart from custom updating to 2.6.32 kernel, are there any way I can get KSM enabled in Karmic ?
[13:20] <sabgenton> ok ok didn't knwo that
[13:20] <sabgenton> date thing
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> sort of a pointless way to version things.. :) but  so what.
[13:20] <retry> ubuntu always releases in april and october
[13:20] <retry> so 10.04 is right around the corner
[13:20] <sabgenton> just wanted to know the terminiolagy
[13:21] <retry> what's the nick name gonna be for 10.04?
[13:21] <Pici> !lucid
[13:21] <retry> leaping lemur?
[13:21] <retry> oh
[13:21] <sabgenton> really
[13:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> LOL
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> retry:  Pukeing Platypus
[13:21] <phox_> Dr_willis: when i right click the external drive, then properties, where is the button to share it?:P
[13:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> Leaping Lemur, LOL
[13:21] <sabgenton> codename
[13:21] <retry> lynx is a bad choice
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  try a directoruy in the uysers home. for a test.
[13:21] <retry> it's already a browser
[13:21] <Audible> lucid leopard
[13:21] <retry> leopard is used by apple
[13:21] <Audible> would be a poke at apple
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> retry:  and chromium is also a game.. :)
[13:22] <retry> chromium is part of firefox
[13:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> no no no
[13:22] <retry> if you look into firefox internals
[13:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> chromium theres NOTHING to firefox
[13:22] <Pici> retry: Thats 'chrome'
[13:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> it uses a few engines...
[13:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> and LOTS o custumizations
[13:22] <retry> oh right chrome sorry
[13:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> Pici, actually chrome is based on chromium
[13:22] <retry> yes chrome is chromium
[13:23] <Audible> anyway, could anyone explain me how to get KSM enabled in 9.10 ?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> worst named new 'thing' [13:23] <retry> but chrome in firefox is not chromium
[13:23] <retry> that's what I was trying to say
[13:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> Audible, KSM?
[13:23] <Pici> Its all offtopic, and I'd be glad to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic, but lets keep #ubuntu free for support
[13:23] <Audible> Kernel Samepage memory
[13:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> wow...
[13:24] <AndreMorro[BR]> HNI
[13:24] <AndreMorro[BR]> Have No Idea
[13:24] <retry> what's KSM all about?
[13:24] <AndreMorro[BR]> I think you can patch the kernel you're using, and recompiling
[13:24] <AndreMorro[BR]> instead of upgrading
[13:24] <Audible> i havent tested it yet, but evidently it reuses the read-only pieces of memory to save memory
[13:24] <retry> it's not memory
[13:24] <retry> it's merging
[13:25] <Audible> ah :)
[13:25] <retry> Kernel SamePage Merging is a recent linux kernel feature which combines identical memory pages from multiple processes into one copy on write memory region.
[13:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> Audible, KSM is a 2.6.32 feature
[13:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> that whats written in a few forums global
[13:25] <Audible> yeah, i know
[13:26] <Audible> i just wasnt sure if there was any nice little feature i could do so i didnt go through the whole recompile hassle
[13:26] <Audible> my system is already kinda stable ;)
[13:26] <AndreMorro[BR]> I see, but it says that only 2.6.32 accepts such patch
[13:26] <retry> why do you want it Audible
[13:26] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, to save memory
[13:27] <Audible> retry :  launching multiple copies of a  memory hogging application
[13:27] <retry> AndreMorro[BR], I think it's only an advantage when virtualizing guests
[13:27] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, "it reuses the read-only pieces of memory to save memory"
[13:27] <retry> KSM, an acronym for Kernel SamePage Merging, a feature of the Linux kernel allowing KVM guest virtual machines to share identical memory pages
[13:27] <dingo> hi there
[13:27] <retry> I dont think it applies to regular applications
[13:27] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, hi here
[13:27] <saviorfromthenor> im back
[13:28] <dingo> i downloaded 64bit ubuntu ,burnt cd and inserted into my new core2quad pc
[13:28] <dingo> nothing happened:(
[13:28] <Audible> retry : i've heard from a guy that currently uses it that it works to vertain wine applications
[13:28] <dingo> my new pc detects the ubuntu 32bit cd
[13:28] <Audible> eeg wow
[13:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, is your pc set to boot on CD first?
[13:28] <dingo> yeah
[13:28] <dingo> i am booted from 32bit ubuntut
[13:28] <dingo> and chatting here
[13:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> hm...
[13:28] <dingo> but my new pc doesnt respond to the 64bit cd
[13:28] <retry> dingo, maybe the 64bit burn simply failed
[13:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, and what you mean with nothing happes?
[13:28] <retry> got another 64bit machine around you can try to boot with it?
[13:29] <dingo> it says intel ... please insert boot device and restart
[13:29] <AndreMorro[BR]> so I think retry is right
[13:29] <dingo> retry: yah my friend has
[13:29] <dingo> let me check
[13:29] <retry> dingo I really think the cd medium is borked
[13:29] <AndreMorro[BR]> maybe the recording went wrong
[13:29] <dingo> i too hope so
[13:29] <retry> because if it was a 64 bit  issue more likely it would at least get to the bootloader
[13:29] <retry> and fail when you loaded the kernel
[13:29] <AndreMorro[BR]> as retry says, you should retry recording
[13:30]  * retry aborts, fails
[13:30] <dingo> not a problem , but let me check another pc
[13:30] <dropcode> is there an app that will allow me to loop a video in place of a webcam?
[13:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, go ahead,
[13:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> dropcode, not sure...
[13:31] <s00p> guys something's going wrong here... ubuntu karmic 64-bit x86 and something's up with my desktop. It'll only let me switch tasks once. After that, I need to ALT+F4 to close the application (it won't let me click the close button) or I can't use anything except the application that has highlight
[13:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> try search fake webcam in ubuntu foruns
[13:31] <s00p> if that makes any sense
[13:31] <dingo> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:31] <dingo> yah other computer detected the 64bit cd
[13:31] <dingo> :( now what
[13:31] <dingo> the other computer is a core2duo
[13:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, swap cd-roms
[13:31] <Italian_Plumber1> hello
[13:31] <saviorfromthenor> run the cd
[13:31] <dingo> why ?
[13:32] <dingo> my cdrom will detect the 32 bit cd and not the 64bit cd
[13:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, cuz the other cd-rom is reading your cd...
[13:32] <dingo> anything like a 32bit bios ?
[13:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, no...
[13:32] <dingo> and core2quad is 64 bit processor ?
[13:32] <saviorfromthenor> yeah
[13:32] <dingo> is there a ia64 vs amd64 issue ?
[13:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, all above core2duo are
[13:33] <dingo> then whats the issue with the cd rom
[13:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, try burning another CD in a slower speed
[13:33] <saviorfromthenor> andre is right
[13:33] <saviorfromthenor> some cd roms read poorly
[13:33] <dingo> i mean cud it be becoz of the cd drive ?
[13:33] <dingo> hmm
[13:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, cuz if there was a problem, there would be a message like "Use a Proper Kernel"
[13:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> something like that
[13:34] <dingo> hmm
[13:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, try it by a USB
[13:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> a live USB or Burn a new CD in lower-speed
[13:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> sometimes it help
[13:34] <iceroot> !enter
[13:34] <s00p> I'm in a bit of trouble here guys... ubuntu karmic amd64 and it'll only let me switch tasks once. After that, I need to ALT+F4 to close the application (it won't let me click the close button) or I can't use anything except the application that has focus
[13:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> ubottu, sorry
[13:34] <dingo> AndreMorro[BR]: can i use a usb drive to install ?
[13:34] <dingo> how to do that ?
[13:34] <saviorfromthenor> a usb is better if you have doubts on cd roms
[13:34] <dingo> i wasted a cd
[13:34] <retry> s00p anything in /var/log/messages or dmesg?
[13:35] <s00p> let me check
[13:35] <saviorfromthenor> on pendriveapps
[13:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> dingo, Go to System -> Administration -> Create a USB...
[13:35] <retry> dingo, download unetbootin
[13:35] <retry> it's a great little app that makes setting up a usb key simple as hell
[13:35] <indus> always use cd rw , cd r is a waste really
[13:35] <s00p> a bunch of things from psmouse.c retry
[13:36] <s00p> you want me to copy/paste in your privates?
[13:36] <retry> s00p pastebin the errors if you want
[13:36] <retry> no use pastebin
[13:36] <s00p> I can't switch tasks man
[13:36] <retry> !pastebin
[13:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, you're using LIVE or did you installed it?
[13:36] <retry> oh
[13:36] <s00p> I can only use 2 tasks
[13:36] <s00p> the console and this task
[13:36] <s00p> so yeh
[13:36] <s00p> it's installed AndreMorro[BR]
[13:36] <retry> console window in the GUI or actually ttyN ?
[13:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, already update it?
[13:36] <s00p> GUI
[13:36] <s00p> AndreMorro[BR]: yes
[13:36] <retry> s00p go ahead and paste it
[13:36] <retry> to me
[13:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, disabled desktop effect?
[13:37] <s00p> what sort of stupid question is that? Why would I complain if I didn't already have the latest version?
[13:37] <retry> i actually uninstalled compiz all together
[13:37] <phox_> I just installed samba, and i want to share my folders. When i rightclick a folder, and click share options i get this box that says "create share" and more. When i click create share, another window open that says that nautilus need to "Add the permissions automatically", and then when i click ok nothings happens. It just goes back the previous box, and its all red like it failed. What to do?
[13:37] <riz0n> hello, I have a server which runs Ubuntu Linux. Normally, I apply available updates through gnome however I am in an environment which has low bandwidth available. What is the best (and easiet) way to check and retrieve the latest updates for Ubuntu from the command line?
[13:37] <retry> phox_, you should probably go to #samba
[13:38] <phox_> okey!
[13:38] <retry> they might help you better
[13:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, well you came here looking for help, I'm doing a few research to imagine the scenario you're working on, if you don't need help why are you here?
[13:38] <saviorfromthenor> some drama
[13:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> saviorfromthenor, I Love drama =)
[13:38] <saviorfromthenor> hehe
[13:39] <retry> s00p you got a laptop with touchpad?
[13:39] <retry> what sort of mouse is this
[13:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> I live in Brazil, also know as drama-country
[13:39] <wasutton3> is there a way to remotely view a tty session as if i was sitting in front of my computer (kinda like vnc only for text mode)
[13:39] <crissi> hello. i installed karmic and trying to setup my printer. i can setup it (via cups admin page) but it doesnt print. I always got 'client-error-not-possible'. whats wrong there? i tried to print as user and as root but still same.
[13:39] <saviorfromthenor> im from the philippines
[13:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> wasutton3, theres a app named screen something like that
[13:40] <Pici> !screen| wasutton3
[13:40] <AndreMorro[BR]> crissi, what printer are you using? tried using the printer admin ?
[13:41] <retry> wasutton3, yeah kvm
[13:41] <retry> screen is for saving a login shell
[13:41] <retry> so you can detach and return to it
[13:41] <retry> although is has a feature whereby you can share it with others
[13:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, I always use screen to "share" a ssh screen with someone else
[13:42] <retry> AndreMorro[BR], yeah that's fun the permissions are always a drag though
[13:42] <retry> unless you are both logged in as same user
[13:42] <crissi> AndreMorro[BR]: its a samsung clp500 (color laser). its using splix.
[13:42] <crissi> printer admin?
[13:42] <erUSUL> riz0n: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:42] <retry> wasutton3, maybe you simply want ssh?
[13:42] <crissi> i use cups admin
[13:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> crissi, System -> Administration -> printing
[13:43] <crissi> AndreMorro[BR]: that should not differ
[13:43] <AndreMorro[BR]> crissi, you're right... stupid question
[13:44] <s00p> so retry any idea what might have caused that?
[13:44] <retry> no
[13:44] <retry> are you using a trackpad
[13:44] <s00p> I rebooted, because I couldn't switch back to irssi D:
[13:44] <s00p> yes...
[13:44] <retry> what sort?
[13:45] <s00p> the sort in a dell inspiron 1525
[13:45] <MrTorque> how do i create a file with 800GB quickly? dd if=/dev/zero takes so long!
[13:45] <meco> I'm having problems running Savage 2. After I have installed it, when I run it, it only shows a black screen for a brief moment, then it's gone.
[13:45] <retry> synaptics? alps?
[13:45] <s00p> I don't know. How do I find out?
[13:45] <retry> lspci
[13:45] <s00p> doesn't appear to have my trackpad
[13:46] <retry> really?
[13:46] <retry> it should be there somewhere
[13:46] <retry> try lspci -vv
[13:46] <s00p> it's got my network interfaces, something to do with ricoh (memory sticks, SD, etc) then all intel stuff... no trackpad
[13:46] <retry> weird
[13:46] <retry> so your prob is that the mouse stops moving?
[13:46] <s00p> no
[13:46] <s00p> my problem was
[13:46] <retry> it moves but you can't click anything?
[13:47] <s00p> I was unable to swap to any other task
[13:47] <s00p> almost correct
[13:47] <retry> and you think it's the mouse
[13:47] <s00p> did I say that?
[13:47] <retry> so the mouse clicks inside the windows you can click on it
[13:47] <retry> i mean the windows you can make active
[13:47] <s00p> I can only -use- the -active- window
[13:47] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, are you allright man?
[13:47] <retry> it's 3:47am
[13:47] <s00p> can't click shutdown, the desktop, the taskbar or anything else
[13:48] <saviorfromthenor> hehe
[13:48] <s00p> I could hit ALT+F4 and that's how I got back to irssi
[13:48] <retry> i should be asleep..not playing indian tech sup dude
[13:48] <saviorfromthenor> love this channel
[13:48] <retry> s00p can you alt-tab?
[13:48] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, try to deactive desktop effect
[13:49] <meco> Like I said, I'm having troubles with the installation of Savage 2....
[13:49] <tomkat> google-earth gives a segmentation fault error. why is this?
[13:49] <retry> cause google software is buggy as hell
[13:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, press alt f2 the run gksu gnome-display-properties
[13:50] <saviorfromthenor> really?
[13:50] <s00p> what am I lookin for AndreMorro[BR] ?
[13:50] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, what kind of problems?
[13:50] <retry> s00p, did alt+tab not do anything?
[13:50] <saviorfromthenor> i thought google was fine with apps>
[13:50] <retry> as far as moving to other active tasks
[13:50] <s00p> alt+tab did nothing
[13:50] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, it can be a bug in you video-driver , and the "desktop effects" are causing a bug in your window manager
[13:50] <retry> do you have any other active tasks to swap to at the moment?
[13:50] <meco> I'm having problems running Savage 2. After I have installed it, when I run it, it only shows a black screen for a brief moment, then it's gone.
[13:50] <s00p> right so disable desktop effects AndreMorro[BR] ?
[13:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, yeah, its a test thou...
[13:51] <retry> not a bad idea to try to disable compiz
[13:51] <retry> i find it useless if you're not going to run the silly cube rotating desktop thingy
[13:51] <retry> which is useless anyway
[13:51] <s00p> ok
[13:52] <s00p> done
[13:52] <s00p> this was a one-off thing
[13:52] <s00p> it's never happened to me before
[13:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, still not working?
[13:52] <s00p> oh no, I've rebooted since then
[13:52] <s00p> it's working fine now
[13:52] <saviorfromthenor> compiz is fine with me, it always makes my friends jealous
[13:52] <MrTorque> how do i create a file with 800GB quickly? dd if=/dev/zero takes so long!
[13:52] <s00p> MrTorque: get a quicker hard drive, fool
[13:52] <retry> you can only write to a disk so fast
[13:53] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, can you switch between apps now?
[13:53] <s00p> yes
[13:53] <retry> aint gonna get any faster than /dev/zero
[13:53] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, great@
[13:53] <s00p> well
[13:53] <MrTorque> s00p: did you ever had to write  800GB file??
[13:53] <retry> typical disk throughput is maybe between 50-80MB
[13:53] <darthn8ers> .org
[13:53] <retry> per sec
[13:53] <s00p> I came back to find out what could have caused that
[13:53] <pat|nG> does compiz works for an intel gfxcard 256mb?
[13:53] <s00p> in order to prevent it from happening again
[13:53] <s00p> because if I didn't have console open
[13:53] <retry> so 10000sec maybe to write 800G
[13:54] <s00p> I wouldn't have been able to reboot D:
[13:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, it depends on the model
[13:54] <s00p> at least not safely
[13:54] <saviorfromthenor> maybe a process got terminated
[13:54] <s00p> MrTorque: yes. I did it on a RAID0.
[13:54] <s00p> It took a little over a minute.
[13:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, check the video-drivers
[13:54] <s00p> for what, AndreMorro[BR]?
[13:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, updates, bugs...
[13:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> anything
[13:54] <riz0n> erUSUL: Thanks for your help. The aptutide command did the trick :)
[13:54] <retry> s00p, you can always ctl+alt+f1 to a tty , login, and shutdown from there
[13:55] <meco> Is there a command for me to check what video card I have installed?
[13:55] <s00p> AndreMorro[BR]: heh, I run sudo apt-get update & upgrade every day if that's what you mean
[13:55] <retry> meco, lspci
[13:55] <meco> ok
[13:55] <MrTorque> s00p: is there an other way then dd it from /dev/zero?
[13:56] <MrTorque> s00p: buying faster harddrives is not possible
[13:56] <s00p> MrTorque: don't go there.
[13:56] <retry> MrTorque, sure you can just cat a file into itself in a while loop
[13:56] <s00p> MrTorque: yes, it is possible
[13:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> s00p, uh... yeah, tahts helps to but, sometimes a update may crash your system just by adding something to where it shoudnt,
[13:56] <MrTorque> retry: will that be faster?
[13:56] <retry> not likely to go any faster though
[13:56] <s00p> fair enough AndreMorro[BR]
[13:56] <retry> you could try and see
[13:56] <meco> retry: What should I look for to see video card information?
[13:57] <retry> meco , look for something that says video in it
[13:57] <retry> or graphics
[13:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, it says Intel GM88 something
[13:57] <s00p> MrTorque: listen, ok? Your hard drive is the bottleneck, not dd. There is nothing you can do to speed it up.
[13:57] <s00p> Except for getting a different hard drive, of course.
[13:57] <MrTorque> is there no way to say: "these blocks are reserved, even if no data in them?"
[13:57] <DSpair> meco: Run the command "lspci -v | grep -A 5 "Graphic"
[13:57] <s00p> NO! Hard drives CAN ONLY WRITE so fast!
[13:58] <saviorfromthenor> then make a partition
[13:58] <MrTorque> s00p: hm, ok.
[13:58] <saviorfromthenor> that way its reserved
[13:58] <s00p> MrTorque: hard drives are bottlenecks in -most systems-, you hear? Writing to them is -slow- by comparison to RAM.
[13:58] <meco> I'm not seeing anything intelligible...
[13:59] <retry> MrTorque, it's likely your drive doesn't write any faster than 100MB/sec and probably slower than that overall
[13:59] <retry> so do the math
[13:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, ?
[13:59] <s00p> Unless you want to get 800GB of RAM or a new HD, MrTorque, there is no faster way.
[13:59] <MrTorque> s00p: well, i can not change the bottleneck. i have to live with it
[13:59] <retry> 10 sec to write 1G or 8000sec to write 800G
[13:59] <retry> that's 133minutes or over 2 hours
[13:59] <meco> AndreMorro[BR]: Well, I'm not seeing anything resembling Intel GM88
[13:59] <saviorfromthenor> yes hard drives have maximum write limit
[13:59] <MrTorque> s00p: for win there seems to be tools for that: http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/40935/how-can-i-create-a-file-of-a-certain-size-in-windows-xp-and-later.html
[14:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, there should be something like  "VGA compatible controller"
[14:00] <retry> MrTorque, what are you trying to do?
[14:00] <meco> Yes, I have " VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)"
[14:00] <DSpair> meco: Try: lspci -v | grep -A 10 VGA
[14:00] <s00p> MrTorque: there seems to be tools for that in Linux too. It's called 'dd'.
[14:00] <retry> oh you have lovely intel media accelerator
[14:00] <retry> waht fun
[14:01] <MrTorque> retry: i have a NAS (cheap one) and i want to create a file-container which i will then decrypt with luks
[14:01] <meco> Can I run Savage 2 on that?
[14:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, great, !! thats a compatible Intel Card, GM845
[14:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, what is savage?
[14:01] <DSpair> meco: You should see a line "Kernel driver", which will tell you which X driver is being used.
[14:01] <retry> what you want an 800Gig file to make a loopback device?
[14:01] <meco> AndreMorro[BR]: It's a game
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:01] <saviorfromthenor> what's a ;oopback?
[14:01] <ron> Hi can anyone help, im trying to set up a VPN Connection to my home server using pptp and i cant get it to work,
[14:01] <chilli0> Hello, can anyone give me a  list of default cli text editros in ubuntu ?
[14:02] <MrTorque> s00p: what about mkfile? http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/mkfile/
[14:02] <frogzoo> chilli0: gedit, & vim
[14:02] <retry> chilli0, vi, vim, nano
[14:02] <DSpair> saviorfromthenor: It's a "fake" disk device made from a file on a real device.
[14:02] <riz0n> chilli0: vi nano
[14:02] <s00p> MrTorque: if your file is 100% redundant then you could use something like zfs to compress it, and possibly reduce the bottleneck significantly.
[14:02] <chilli0> Ok thanks.
[14:02] <m__> hi
[14:02] <meco> DSpair: No kernel driver line
[14:02] <riz0n> you guys should try SSH over Wild Blue satellite.
[14:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, it will not run smothly but yes, you can, but it would be better to buy a NVIDIA or ATI 3D card
[14:02] <DSpair> meco: Really? Interesting.
[14:03] <m__> I can't install yahoo messenger her
[14:03] <DSpair> riz0n: I'd rather poke my eyes out with red-hot tongs.
[14:03] <meco> AndreMorro[BR]: I see
[14:03] <saviorfromthenor> on an ubuntu?
[14:03] <m__> any one can help plz
[14:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> m__, try using empathy or pidgin, it suports lots of protocols also yahoo
[14:03] <meco> DSpair: Nope
[14:03] <s00p> MrTorque: consider looking at zfs for your nas.
[14:03] <retry> meco, I very much doubt you can play savage 2 on that GPU
[14:03] <saviorfromthenor> use pidgin
[14:03] <m__> I 'm a new user
[14:03] <MrTorque> s00p: what with dd and the seek option??
[14:03] <retry> that game looks like a fps with a lot of 3d rendering
[14:03] <m__> I just installed the sys riight now
[14:03] <DSpair> m_: Yahoo Messenger is a Windows application. You should use Pidgin or Empathy on Linux.
[14:03] <meco> retry: So that may be why the game won't start up?
[14:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> m__, Aplications -> Internet -> Empathy
[14:04] <s00p> I don't know if seeking is very optimal on compressed drives... but writing redundant (repetitive) data to them should be.
[14:04] <riz0n> DSpair: i know what you mean, where i just moved to i cant get DSL or cable for broadband. it was either wild blue or hughes net and wildblue just happened to cost the least of the two.. :\
[14:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> you can add your yahoo acount there and start using it
[14:04] <ron> nobody good with pptpd? :(
[14:04] <retry> meco, possibly...and even if it could, I doubt you can play it with that GPU ..you'd get like 6 frames a sec
[14:04] <DSpair> riz0n: Both of them really suck for latency though... I'm sorry for you bro!
[14:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> ron, maaaannn, i'm fighting with it for 2 months
[14:04] <meco> retry: Too bad.. Oh, well!
[14:05] <riz0n> yep the latency stinks. like 2 or 3 seconsd
[14:05] <riz0n> but its better than using smoke signals for internet LMAO
[14:05] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:05] <DSpair> riz0n: I used to have Hughes Net and you couldn't even establish an IPSEC VPN over that sucker because of the latency.
[14:05] <pat|nG> i installed compiz but i can't have the 3D cube effects how can i do it?
[14:05] <s00p> so if all you want to do is dd if=/dev/zero then yes that should be fast if you provide a large bs like 1M and write to a compressed drive.. heck I think you can even mount gzip/bz2 files
[14:05] <MrTorque> s00p: haha, i did: dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/linkstation1/container bs=1024 seek=799999990 count=800000000 and voila: got a 800GB file very, very quickly!
[14:05] <ron> AndreMorro[BR], if your just like 'not connecting' too? it gets to a point then seems to close the connection..
[14:05] <ron> is*
[14:06] <AndreMorro[BR]> ron, actually i can connect, but keeps droping
[14:06] <riz0n> That was one of my next projecst... VPN to my Ubuntu server
[14:06] <s00p> why are you using 1024 bs?
[14:06] <s00p> I'd be using 1M
[14:06] <AndreMorro[BR]> ron, so far I changed to openvpn and installed on the MS machines also
[14:06] <riz0n> my ubuntu server sits behind a cable modem and runs fairly fast
[14:06] <DSpair> riz0n: RFC 1149.
[14:07] <ron> AndreMorro[BR], woudl you recomend it?
[14:07] <retry> MrTorque, that's cause you didnt write the entire file out
[14:07] <DSpair> RFC 1149 : IP over Avian Carriers - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
[14:07] <MrTorque> retry: but that is okay, isnt't it? the size is allocated.
[14:07] <retry> sure
[14:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> ron, yeah, its much better, safer and secure, but its not easy to teach someone how to install it on MS computers...
[14:07] <riz0n> ubuntu rules but satellite internet sux.
[14:07] <retry> for your purposes
[14:07] <s00p> I've been thinking of getting some aluminium, soldering up a box with some rods to suspend atom boards on and running a series of atom boards in mineral oil...
[14:08] <riz0n> But Wild Blue is an excellent name for the service. Trying to use the service will drive you wild, and paying the bills will leave you blue.
[14:08] <s00p> think that'd work well riz0n?
[14:08] <Pici> DSpair, riz0n, s00p: #ubuntu is for support only. If you just want to chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that purpose.
[14:08] <chilli0> Hi, Im getting thes weird error. exportfs: Warning: /media/My Book does not support NFS export.
[14:08] <DSpair> Pici: OK, NP... Sorry for the inconvenience.
[14:08] <chilli0> Is that because its a usb ?
[14:08] <meco> regarding Savage 2 the FAQ for the Linux installation reads: "Savage 2 requires an OpenGL 2.1 compliant video card and driver. This means it will not run on Geforce 4 series and below." I suppose that my compatible Intel Card, GM845, is not up to the task?
[14:08] <riz0n> i dunno i've never tried soaking atom boards in oil
[14:09] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, proabably, or beacause it has spaces on the name
[14:09] <riz0n> Pici: I am getting support.
[14:09] <s00p> Pici: then make yourself useful and tell me what caused that crash I experienced earlier
[14:09] <AndreMorro[BR]> meco, you're right...
[14:09] <ikonia> chilli0: try changing it from a name with a space to removing the space
[14:09] <airtonix> riz0n, when are you going to return to the topic ?
[14:09] <guest2> i need help in ubuntu
[14:09] <ikonia> chilli0: also what file system is on mybook ?
[14:09] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR], Is there anyway to fix the name with out formatting ?
[14:09] <retry> meco you basically have a card that is the bare minimum to run a modern GUI
[14:09] <chilli0> Not to sure.
[14:09] <retry> it is not able to game at all
[14:10] <retry> nothing substantil
[14:10] <ikonia> chilli0: they are two things to find out and check
[14:10] <retry> you could probably play some really old games
[14:10] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, yeah, use GParteD
[14:10] <DSpair> chilli0: Sure you can rename the mount point without formatting.
[14:10] <ron> AndreMorro[BR] THanks ill give it a try, im only doing it on ubuntu anyway
[14:10] <riz0n> hrmm I didn't know that all 1322 had a specific topic we were discussing
[14:10] <retry> like mario kart
[14:10] <meco> retry: Ok
[14:10] <guest2> any one help me to install apache hadoop
[14:10] <chilli0> DSpair, How can I do this ?
[14:10] <retry> you should have bought a pc with a dedicated GPU if you wanted to game
[14:10] <Pici> s00p: I don't know what caused your issue, but I saw that you got some good suggestions if it happens again.
[14:10] <ikonia> guest2: hadoop ?
[14:11] <airtonix> riz0n, pretty sure that when you joined the channel it describes what is on topic here (protip : ubuntu support not your ability to pay bills of some non factor company)
[14:11] <DSpair> chilli0: Install GParteD. From the System->Administration->Synapic Package Manager
[14:11] <s00p> Pici like what, CTRL+ALT+F1 when my ALT+TAB wasn't working? hmmm? Awesome!
[14:11] <s00p> thanks for helping Pici!
[14:11] <chilli0> DSpair,  Im on ssh =P
[14:11] <AndreMorro[BR]> someone is in a bad mood
[14:11] <ws2> hi
[14:11] <DSpair> chilli0: OK, "aptitude install parted"
[14:11] <ws2> как я могу
[14:11] <ws2> зайти на arsanna.com
[14:11] <ws2> O_O
[14:11] <saviorfromthenor> wow
[14:11] <Pici> s00p: No, regarding disabling compiz.
[14:12] <Pici> !ru | ws2
[14:12] <riz0n> airtonix: your complaints of my short line about wild blue is off-topic to this channel. when do you plan to return to the topic of this channel?
[14:12] <ws2> !ru
[14:12] <meco> How do I uninstall Savage 2? It doesn't show in Synaptic?
[14:12] <ws2> i che?
[14:12] <tomkat> does anyone have issues with their audigy 4?
[14:12] <Pici> ws2: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:12] <chilli0> DSpair,  Ok done.
[14:12] <ws2> fuck you
[14:12] <ws2> pidor
[14:12] <retry> meco how did you install it?
[14:12] <meco> retry: It was a .bin file
[14:12] <retry> bin file?
[14:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> things are guetting messy
[14:12] <guest2> how to install hadoop and hbase
[14:12] <meco> Yes
[14:12] <DSpair> chilli0: Use the man page to help you: "man parted"
[14:13] <retry> that's not an installable
[14:13] <retry> that's like a cd image
[14:13] <saviorfromthenor> yeah, is it always like this here?
[14:13] <meco> retry: /Savage2Install-2.1.0-i686.bin
[14:13] <chilli0> DSpair,  mmm new disk label i guess ?
[14:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, yeap!
[14:13] <retry> meco so what did you type to install it?
[14:13] <DSpair> chilli0: Yup!
[14:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> saviorfromthenor, not really, they should read the "How to get help" from ubuntu user days yesterday
[14:13] <meco> retry: I typed ./Savage2Install-2.1.0-i686.bin after having done chmod +x
[14:14] <retry> hmm
[14:14] <saviorfromthenor> hehe
[14:14] <Sargot_need_help> hello i have 1 question i get a dvd as present and try to watch it but it doesn't work
[14:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sargot_need_help, -> you need to watch dvds?
[14:15] <saviorfromthenor> open it on the totem player
[14:15] <riz0n> oh well, i'm not here to argue about what is considered on topic and off-topic. i joined, i presented a complaint regarding my wild blue and slow UBUNTU service, perhaps someone was going to come along and provide me with SUPPORT which would have sped up my experience using ubuntu and wild blue. i am truly sorry of my one off-topic line regarding wild blue upset you dearly to the point that it made you have to call me out in the channel abou
[14:15] <KrisKo> hello, i have my own bin directory with scripts, i added the dir to enviroment variables, it works correctly, but when i try to run my own command with sudo i get command not found? how could i fix this
[14:15] <KrisKo> ?
[14:15] <retry> meco so it's some proprietary installer...does it have an uninstall option ?
[14:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> KrisKo, check the $PATH from root user
[14:15] <grawity> KrisKo: 'sudo' resets $PATH to the one root has.
[14:16] <meco> retry: I'll try running it again
[14:16] <retry> try adding --help to the cmdline
[14:16] <grawity> KrisKo: usually, I put such "system" binaries to /usr/local/bin.
[14:16] <retry> see if it has options
[14:16] <dhuv> hello all
[14:16] <chilli0> DSpair,  Could you help out for one sec ? I cant unmount it. It says its busy.
[14:16] <retry> KrisKo you should do what grawity suggests
[14:17] <dhuv> I am using 9.10 and was wondering when an official firefox 3.6 package will be available for download?
[14:17] <DSpair> chilli0: cd to a different directory outside of the drive.
[14:17] <Sargot_need_help> i want AndreMorro[BR] because i have no dvd player so i want to see it on my pc
[14:17] <retry> /usr/local/bin is for custom scripts you want to set up
[14:17] <dfa_> hi.  i have  an error in Karmic:   when i play a mp3 file, in the middle the song stops  and the player marker acelerates to the end.   i try a lot of files and some players.  any idea ?
[14:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, make sure your not on the device write now (type pwd to se where you are)
[14:17] <nomad111> hi all is it possible in bash to get which screen the mouse pointer is in
[14:17] <grawity> dhuv: Official Mozilla package or official Ubuntu package?
[14:17] <nomad111> at the moment
[14:17] <retry> dhuv, probably wont be
[14:17] <retry> not til next distro release in april
[14:17] <dhuv> grawity: official ubuntu package
[14:17] <grawity> dhuv: Ubuntu - not sooner than 10.04.
[14:17] <chilli0> Im not on the device.
[14:17] <nomad111> actually not mouse pointer but lets say the current gnome-terminal
[14:18] <Pici> riz0n: Why not forget it and just ask your *support* question again and perhaps someone can answer.  If you want to chat about random stuff whilst waiting for a response, we ask that you do so in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:18] <grawity> dhuv: But the ones from Mozilla work quite good too.
[14:18] <retry> distro versions dont upgrade packages
[14:18] <KrisKo> grawity: ok i'll put them to usr local lib.
[14:18] <meco> retry: It doesn't respond to that switch
[14:18] <dhuv> grawity: I prefer the Ubuntu package because it has better font rendering. Is there anyway to make the Mozilla package the same?
[14:18] <grawity> KrisKo: bin, not lib. lib is for libraries.
[14:18] <retry> they freeze them and backport patches from newer development they deem important
[14:18] <retry> usually security
[14:18] <grawity> dhuv: Edit ~/.fonts.conf
[14:18] <KrisKo> grawity: :) sorry bin
[14:18] <retry> meco, not sure then...that's not a standard package installer
[14:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sargot_need_help, ok, first thing, make sure you PC reads DVD-Medias, second, Open the Totem (Application -> Multimedia -> Movie Player (or something like it) then go to File, Reproduce "Your Media"
[14:18] <grawity> dhuv: My Linux laptop is toast, so please wait a few minutes while I try to find a backup copy of that.
[14:19] <retry> so it probably just put its files wherever it wanted
[14:19] <retry> maybe it's all in your home dir or something
[14:19] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, try unounting with -f (force)
[14:19] <dhuv> grawity: Fonts in other apps are fine, just Firefox has thinner fonts, is that something .fonts.conf can fix?
[14:19] <grawity> nomad111: It might be possible -- but always remember that it isn't always gnome-terminal. It might not even be running under X.
[14:20] <chilli0> kk
[14:20] <grawity> dhuv: Yep. Ubuntu's package is patched to respect GNOME's font settings. Official Mozilla builds, on the other hand, only use fontconfig settings (changeable through fonts.conf)
[14:20] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Still busy
[14:20] <dfa_> hi.  i have  an error in Karmic:   when i play a mp3 file, in the middle the song stops  and the player marker acelerates to the end.   i try a lot of files and some players.  any idea ?
[14:20] <grawity> dhuv: "Thinner fonts" in this case is hinting mode... Which one do you have in GNOME's appearance settings? Medium, light, none?
[14:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, there's no one using it?
[14:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, maybe a download, or upload,
[14:20] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Nop
[14:21] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Ill restart it
[14:21] <sebcio> google.pl
[14:21] <duffydack> I think liberation sans font looks absolutely awesome in Firefox.
[14:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, thats what i was writing
[14:21] <nomad111> grawity: i was reading a guide recently on how to emulate windows 7's aero snap in ubuntu (in which you drag a window to the edge of a screen to make resize: top -> maximise, left -> fill left half, right -> fill right half). Only problem was that the guide did not take into account a multi-display setup.
[14:21] <nomad111> im trying to overcome that
[14:21] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  hehe
[14:21] <duffydack> I wish chromium would look as good.
[14:21] <retry> chilli0, type lsof and grep for your mount name
[14:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> duffydack, chrome-beta looks good
[14:22] <retry> so sudo lsof|grep <mount name>
[14:22] <chilli0> retry,  To late o=
[14:22] <retry> meh ah well
[14:22] <retry> so what is that a usb key?
[14:22] <retry> or usb hdd?
[14:22] <Sargot_need_help> mh  AndreMorro[BR] this is clear i am no newbie ;) totem can't open it because it can't see a file he can handle on this dvd, vlc open the dvd a menu appears but i choose the language than vlc close, if a use mplayer a can see the disney intro but it can't open the other tracks...
[14:22] <chilli0> retry,  Usb harddrive hehe
[14:22] <duffydack> AndreMorro[BR], Ive tried google chrome and chromium and they dont honour font changes at all for me..  fonts either look too small or too fat/bold compared to what I have now
[14:23] <PcPixel> Hello. I have a question about Ubuntu Server 9.10 and iptables. How does Ubuntu remember what user defined rules you havein place?
[14:23] <luist> how do i keep my changes to terminator preferences? they always go back to default
[14:23] <retry> chilli0, so ubuntu auto mounted it with that crappy name?
[14:23] <retry> PcPixel, it loads them from a file
[14:23] <Myrtti> luist: edit the config file or configure it with gnome-terminal
[14:23] <meco> retry: Yes, I found it in my home dir. Now it's gone...
[14:23] <chilli0> retry, Seems that wa
[14:23] <chilli0> way *
[14:23] <grawity> dhuv: There, wget http://dpaste.com/150210/plain/ -O ~/.fonts.conf
[14:23] <retry> hm
[14:23] <saviorfromthenor> hey i got a question, which app should i install in ubuntu if i want to see the whole network traffic?
[14:23] <retry> honestly a space in the name shouldn't cause it so much problems
[14:23] <PcPixel> retry: how do they get saved? US seems different than the other OS's Ive used
[14:23] <NET||abuse> hey folks, anyone know if this will get sorted soon? how soon? http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=2708
[14:23] <KrisKo> I have set my aliases, they work correctly, but whe i login to my account via ssh, they don't :(, also they don't work on tty's...
[14:24] <grawity> saviorfromthenor: A packet sniffer? (Wireshark is popular.)
[14:24] <grawity> KrisKo: Where have you set them?
[14:24] <retry> PcPixel, I don't remember offhand how ubuntu does it
[14:24] <saviorfromthenor> ill try that
[14:24] <saviorfromthenor> thnaks grawity
[14:24] <retry> I know in debian you basically do it yourself with iptables-save and iptables-load
[14:24] <KrisKo> grawity: ~/.bash_aliases, adn added line to ~/.bashrc
[14:24] <grawity> dhuv: Then open it in your favourite text editor, and edit the hintstyle. "Thick" fonts is 'slight' or 'none'.
[14:24] <disappearedng> Anyone here can tell me how I can change my dns ?
[14:24] <retry> and make it part of a pre up and post down scripts
[14:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> duffydack, never checked that out
[14:25] <grawity> KrisKo: Do you have a ~/.profile, or ~/.bash_profile, or ~/.bash_login? (Any of these.)
[14:25] <retry> disappearedng, edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:25] <disappearedng> retry: is that safe?
[14:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> Hey I have a question, anyone knows a HP12c emulator? or something like it?
[14:25] <grawity> KrisKo: If yes, does it contain a line saying '. ~/.bashrc' or 'source ~/.bashrc'?
[14:25] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Erm
[14:25] <retry> disappearedng, well it's how you always did it on linux
[14:25] <KrisKo> grawity: only .profile
[14:25] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR], (parted) mklabel harddrive
[14:25] <chilli0> Warning: The existing disk label on /dev/sdb will be destroyed and all data on this disk will be lost. Do you want to continue?
[14:25] <saviorfromthenor> ?
[14:25] <grawity> KrisKo: Okay, now does it contain a line saying '. ~/.bashrc' or 'source ~/.bashrc'?
[14:25] <chilli0> Can I do it with out losing 500 gigs of data ?
[14:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, holly cr**
[14:25] <disappearedng> is there any software that allows to change dns?
[14:25] <retry> ubuntu keeps changing so many basic things it's hard to know what old ways are not informing some GUI front end tool
[14:26] <retry> and thus breaking things
[14:26] <grawity> chilli0: NO.
[14:26] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, didn~t new that
[14:26] <phox_> I share some folders over the local network, but then i try to open a folder from my win-pc, it says that the path isnt found. What could be the problem? I have samba.
[14:26] <chilli0> disappearedng,  Maybe host file ?
[14:26] <KrisKo> grawity: no, it doesn't
[14:26] <disappearedng> cause I use a vpn
[14:26] <AndreMorro[BR]> disappearedng, you can manually do it by editing /etc/resolv.conf (sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf)
[14:26] <grawity> chilli0: I think you are looking for "e2label" instead...
[14:26] <grawity> KrisKo: Then add it.
[14:26] <disappearedng> um, like dnsmasq?
[14:26] <grawity> KrisKo: Or, pastebin the entire ~/.profile if you can.
[14:26] <chilli0> grawity,  Whats that ?
[14:26] <retry> like today for example I used userdel to remove a user from the sytem and when I tried to add them back in wtih the GNOME frontend , it was all complaining about user already existing and what not
[14:27] <PcPixel> Is there somewhere that documents how the firewall in Ubuntu Server works? I want to deploy one, but I need to be sure I can control the firewall on boot.
[14:27] <retry> PcPixel, just install some frontend tool...there are plenty that make it easy like firestarter
[14:27] <grawity> chilli0: It's a program to change the filesystem label of an ext2 partition.
[14:27] <saviorfromthenor> massive questions
[14:27] <grawity> PcPixel: Are you talking about ufw or iptables?
[14:27] <KrisKo> grawity: the only line there uncommented is: test -z "$PROFILEREAD" && . /etc/profile || true
[14:27] <nomad111> is it possible to make find return files only
[14:27] <nomad111> not folders
[14:27] <chilli0> grawity,  Its not ext2 o=
[14:27] <PcPixel> grawity: uiptables
[14:27] <PcPixel> retry:" no GUI. this is a server box. no GUI
[14:28] <grawity> chilli0: ext[234] are the same in this case.
[14:28] <chilli0> grawity,  Its nfs or some windows crap
[14:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> PcPixel, disable ufw and write yours using iptables
[14:28] <grawity> PcPixel: iptables is an interface to 'netfiler' kernel module, and it's available all the time, even on boot. It's not Ubuntu-specific. And it has a lot of docs all over the googles.
[14:28] <chilli0> grawity,  Anyway to change the mount point name ?
[14:28] <airtonix> PcPixel, ufw is the clie version of gufw which are just both frontends to iptables... however they are fairly simplistic in their application
[14:28] <dhuv> grawity: hintstyle is set to hintslight
[14:28] <grawity> chilli0: NTFS? It's not crap... in any case, 'ntfslabel'
[14:29] <retry> i have never seen a definitive iptables script that covers all the weird things that people can do to your packets
[14:29] <PcPixel> grawirty: right, but most other distros ive seen has an iptables script on boot that loads rules. ubuntu server doesnt have that, so im wondering how it remembers the rules youve put in place
[14:29] <chilli0> grawity,  I said some windows crap o/
[14:29] <phox_> I share some folders over the local network, but then i try to open a folder from my win-pc, it says that the path isnt found. What could be the problem? I have samba, and already tried in #samba, no help there.
[14:29] <retry> PcPixel, oh it has it somewhere
[14:29] <retry> there's no more /etc/init.d/iptables?
[14:29] <grawity> chilli0: Dude, NTFS is awesome.
[14:29] <PcPixel> retry: nope.
[14:29] <grawity> chilli0: (Yes, I know it's a Windows thing.)
[14:29] <chilli0> Ok.
[14:29] <retry> what about event.d?
[14:29] <retry> anything in there
[14:29] <PcPixel> retry: in any version of Ubuntu Server i've looked at i havent seen one
[14:29] <PcPixel> event.,d? lkemme checlk
[14:30] <grawity> chilli0: ...anyway, did you try ntfslabel?
[14:30] <airtonix> grawity, apart from its lack of real symlinks and the constant need for defragmentation
[14:30] <disappearedng> ok anyone familair with /etc/resolv.conf
[14:30] <retry> yes
[14:30] <chilli0> grawity,  Installing now
[14:30] <retry> it's a very simple file
[14:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> PcPixel, write your own, the put it in /etc/rc3 (maybe 2) as SXXfirewall or something like it...
[14:30] <retry> that has your DNS entries
[14:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> S means it wil start, XX its the order,
[14:30] <guest2> any one know about hadoop or hbase can help  me???????????
[14:30] <grawity> airtonix: NTFS has symlinks, it's just that Windows XP and older did not support them.
[14:30] <disappearedng> ok so let say my first dns censors sites, will me secondary dns entries be used to retrieve failed attempts from 1?
[14:30] <PcPixel> Andre: Ah, so I jus thave to add my own
[14:30] <grawity> disappearedng: Depends on how the "censoring" is done.
[14:30] <retry> disappearedng, depends
[14:31] <airtonix> grawity, junctioning is hardly a something i would call a comparable symlink provider
[14:31] <retry> yeah exactly
[14:31] <disappearedng> let say if censorship blocks out dns
[14:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> PcPixel, you're right, just be shure to able your SSH connections
[14:31] <retry> if it it censors by resolivng you to some IP and saying no bad
[14:31] <retry> then NO
[14:31] <chilli0> grawity,  No im not. Whats it called in the respos ?
[14:31] <retry> it won't
[14:31] <grawity> chilli0: ntfsprogs
[14:31] <disappearedng> um,
[14:31] <retry> if censor means it won't return an IP record at all
[14:31] <retry> then yes it would
[14:31] <disappearedng> ok cool
[14:31] <airtonix> grawity, i do however wish ubuntu used a filesystem that allowed for per node permission systems like windows provides
[14:31] <Talon_> I followed this guide here: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/ and got internet connection sharing half working. It seems on boot, ethernet is initialized before wireless gets a chance, then pc's on the ethernet cant get the internet unless i disconnect my ethernet and reconnect it after wireless starts up..
[14:31] <grawity> airtonix: NTFS symlinks act exactly the same way as Unix symlinks.
[14:31] <PcPixel> ok ill give that a shot. i finally have a chance to let ubuntu shine at work, so i wanrt to be sure i can secure the OS when it goes public
[14:31] <Talon_> any ideas how to fix this?
[14:31] <disappearedng> anything to dynamically change my resolver? cause my resolver gets rewritten all the time
[14:32] <airtonix> grawity, unfortunatly they do not.
[14:32] <KrisKo> grawity: thank you, I added the '. ~/.bashrc', now it works.
[14:32] <chilli0> grawity,  Thanks. But that computer just lost internet o=
[14:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> disappearedng, sometimes (I Do this) the DNS its now blocking, but all traffic goes to a proxy (like squid) and it blocks there...
[14:32] <Pici> guest2: I don't think anyone here is familiar with it.  You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or #httpd (the apache channel)
[14:32] <grawity> airtonix: Got any examples on how they are different?
[14:32] <guest2> ok thanks pici
[14:32] <retry> disappearedng, are you getting your IP from dhcp?
[14:33] <fist> hey guys, what does this step means? : "as root, install the virtualbox guest additons."
[14:33] <retry> because that usually assigns dns from the dhcp server
[14:33] <retry> every time
[14:33] <disappearedng> yes,
[14:33] <retry> but you can set static DNS
[14:33] <disappearedng> I am also using openvpn
[14:33] <retry> in your network interfaces
[14:33] <disappearedng> but then there's a script update-resolv-conf
[14:33] <pawan> hi
[14:33] <disappearedng> not sure what it does
[14:33] <pawan> when is the next release coming
[14:33] <retry> hmm I dont know much about openvpn config
[14:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, 04/2010
[14:34] <retry> I use hardware vpn
[14:34] <pawan> !ubuntu
[14:34] <retry> !kubuntu
[14:34] <retry> !gnome
[14:34] <retry> !desktop
[14:34] <Myrtti> are we done with the bot soon?
[14:35] <retry> maybe
[14:35] <Myrtti> !bot > retry
[14:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> lol
[14:35] <saviorfromthenor> ?
[14:36] <duffydack> fist, mount the guest additions cd and sudo ./VBox<whateverOS>
[14:36] <chilli0> grawity, How can I enable desktop view / sharing from cli ?
[14:36] <chilli0> grawity, Remote desktoping =P
[14:36] <grawity> chilli0: I don't know.
[14:36] <chilli0> O=
[14:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, system -> preferencers - remote desktop connection
[14:36] <pawan> pawan here
[14:36] <disappearedng> anyone know how to use update-resolv-conf?
[14:36] <fffmvn> :)
[14:36] <chilli0> Anyone know how to enable remote desktop from cli ?
[14:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, its VNC
[14:37] <pawan> who there
[14:37] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  I need to enable it from cli
[14:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, wow... that would be...
[14:37] <retry> you can if you have X running
[14:37] <retry> what's the new vnc server called now?
[14:37] <retry> vino or something?
[14:37] <chilli0> retry,  Its running on the computer.
[14:37] <retry> vinagre is the client...
[14:37] <Talon_> is there a way to set prioritys on network manager to start wireless before ethernet?
[14:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, xtightvnc-server something like it
[14:38] <retry> oh tight is not default though
[14:38] <retry> I love tight
[14:38] <duffydack> vino-server or something.
[14:38] <retry> chilli0, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-266981.html
[14:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> tight, loose, doesn't matter
[14:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> vnc isn't the best choice
[14:39] <pawan> which is better windows or ubuntu
[14:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, are you kidding?
[14:39] <Trezker> raphaelachown54@hotmail.com anyone we know?
[14:39] <pawan> just
[14:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, each has its qualitys
[14:40] <cuthbert> Hello. On my other system, I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on dual-boot with Windows Vista on a laptop, and I have problem booting into Ubuntu. It shows an error that mention about booting a kernel. How do I go about doing it?
[14:40] <AndreMorro[BR]> sorry for bad spell
[14:40] <AndreMorro[BR]> cuthbert, can you write the error?
[14:41] <cuthbert> "error: you need to load the kernel first. press any key to continue"
[14:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> cuthbert, something went wrong during your instaltion buddy, can you reinstall it?
[14:41] <pawan> ok
[14:42] <retry> yes vnc is quick and easy but not an efficient transport
[14:42] <cuthbert> oh, okay. i will re-install it first and see how it goes. but if the problem is still around?
[14:42] <retry> I like nx
[14:42] <retry> oh man nearly 5am
[14:42] <retry> I'm going to bed
[14:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> cuthbert, you come back to us and check if we can help
[14:42] <cuthbert> okay, thanks.
[14:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, where you chating from?
[14:42] <retry> hawaii
[14:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> retry, 5 am??
[14:43] <retry> [retry TIME reply]: Mon Jan 25 04:42:34 2010
[14:43] <AndreMorro[BR]> gosh
[14:43] <retry> I'm so screwed now
[14:43] <pawan> hello
[14:43] <retry> ah well
[14:43] <retry> nn
[14:43] <jellow> !hi | pawan
[14:44] <AndreMorro[BR]> jellow, can anyone play with the ! with the bot?
[14:44] <AndreMorro[BR]> it will save my fingers a bit
[14:44] <jellow> !bot | AndreMorro[BR]
[14:44] <saviorfromthenor> you should get some sleep retry
[14:44] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ubuntu > AndreMorro[BR]
[14:44] <pawan> what
[14:45] <AndreMorro[BR]> jellow, ty
[14:45] <jellow> AndreMorro[BR]: np
[14:45] <pawan> is fucking a lady good thing
[14:46] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, are you kidding?
[14:46] <pawan> just for fun
[14:46] <Myrtti> pawan: er
[14:46] <melchior> hello all. I've just installed linux on an embedded device. Kernel and fs where provided. Web server is already installed but there's just a httpd executable in /usr/sbin and nthing else no apache2 folder, no httpd folder, no httpd.conf.... How could i configure this webserver ?
[14:46] <macman_> i have a question .. im on ubuntu right and my sound is so friggin loud .. i can't even put it on 1 without it blasting .. there a setting i can change besides the default sound because that isn't working
[14:46] <AndreMorro[BR]> !offtopic | pawan
[14:47] <AndreMorro[BR]> macman_, yes, open up the mixer, and do the "fine tunning"  there
[14:47] <pawan> why not here
[14:47] <Myrtti> pawan: nowhere in #ubuntu channels
[14:47] <Myrtti> pawan: not even in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:48] <AndreMorro[BR]> !language | pawan
[14:48] <AndreMorro[BR]> loved the bot ! thing
[14:48] <pawan> oh no
[14:49] <saviorfromthenor> hehe
[14:50] <saviorfromthenor> just tried wireshark, it ate me alive
[14:51] <saviorfromthenor> ?
[14:51] <pawan> but i am feeling horny
[14:51] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, you need to be more specific next time when you want to have network monitoring (there are many aspects to it)
[14:51] <chilli0> I need some help. I think my computer is stuffed.
[14:51] <pawan> where to go
[14:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, sleep...
[14:51] <saviorfromthenor> tnx airtonix
[14:51] <jellow> !ask | chilli0
[14:51] <pawan> sleep not coming
[14:51] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, wireshark is about inspecting the contents of the network data...
[14:51] <Myrtti> pawan: elsewhere. continuing this thread of conversation might end up you getting muted or removed from the channel
[14:52] <chilli0> jellow,  I dont know wtf is wrong
[14:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> !language | chilli0
[14:52] <jellow> chilli0: Will your system not boot ?
[14:52] <chilli0> Im connected to the computer locally. but it cant go out to the internet
[14:52] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, but typically a person wanting to "see the network traffic" means they want to see the connections and the traffic speed of those connections ... is this the case with you ?
[14:52] <chilli0> It says there are no valid connections found.
[14:52] <clusty_> hey
[14:52] <saviorfromthenor> hehe, i was hoping to try airtonix on my classmates who download using torrent in our public wifi
[14:53] <clusty_> where is the new grub config file?
[14:53] <chilli0> Yet it connects to LAN.
[14:53] <pawan> i want the answer
[14:53] <clusty_> i see no /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:53] <Myrtti> pawan: you've been given several
[14:53] <chilli0> Device is unmanaged apparently.
[14:53] <saviorfromthenor> yes airtonix
[14:53] <pawan> ok
[14:53] <Sargot_need_help> is there i possibility to install a i386 .deb under 64-bit ubuntu?
[14:53] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, so you want to see connections & speeds or the contents of each data packet ?
[14:54] <jellow> chilli0: could you post the out put on pastebin of "sudo ifconfig"
[14:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> pawan, do this, go to sleep before you mom find's out what you're doing on the internet and get you grounded...
[14:54] <pawan> good advice
[14:54] <chilli0> jellow,  Are you sure you mean ipconfig ?
[14:54] <pawan> u too do like this or what
[14:54] <saviorfromthenor> i am getting so tired of slow connections due to torrent downloads of others who share the wifi network
[14:54] <jellow> chilli0: i mean ifconfig
[14:55] <chilli0> http://pastebin.com/m38661828
[14:55] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, if you want to monitor connections and speeds passing through or from your own computer i suggest jnettop. if you want to see connections from other computers on your own subnet you might like to try out etherape
[14:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, try "sudo ping 200.180.33.66"
[14:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, see if its pinging...
[14:56] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Works
[14:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, try pinging www.google.com.br
[14:56] <pawan> but
[14:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> or .com, whatever
[14:56] <pawan> my desire
[14:56] <chilli0> DNS issue i think
[14:56] <chilli0> That fails
[14:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, yeah, add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to your /etc/resolv.conf
[14:56] <pawan> and my life
[14:56] <Jimi_Neutral> Anyone know why I cannot download the 32 bit server edition of karmic, or is there not one?
[14:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 (google public dns)
[14:56] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, in the case of desiring priority on the connection there is some things you can do providing the wifi modem (and the internet connection it connects to is yours)...
[14:56] <pawan> i am dying man
[14:57] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,  let me check hold on
[14:57] <saviorfromthenor> got it airtonix, tnx
[14:57] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  But I cant edit the network erm look.
[14:57] <pawan> pls help
[14:57] <Jimi_Neutral> or should I say I cant find a link for it
[14:57] <Jimi_Neutral> it goes to 64bit every time
[14:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, yes there is, just gotta change it on the download options
[14:57] <Myrtti> pawan: you've been told the guidelines of this channel, and told to behave. This is the final warning, if you do not keep on topic (Ubuntu support), you will be muted, removed or even banned.
[14:57] <Jimi_Neutral> AndreMorro[BR], forgive me but i couldnt see any
[14:57] <Jimi_Neutral> coz_, ty
[14:57] <saviorfromthenor> airtonix: i guess i just want to know which ip uses torrent
[14:58] <jellow> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server ?
[14:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, underneath the Green Download, theres a Alternate Download Options,
[14:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, you can choose 32bit from there
[14:58] <Myrtti> saviorfromthenor: if you don't have access to the router/hub, you'll probably not have any means of getting that information. Also, be aware that in some jurisdictions packet sniffing etc. are illegal.
[14:58] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,   mm I only see the 64 bit version let me keep checking
[14:58] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, you won't really be able to determine that if they have encryption and use a non standard port for their torrent software... maybe generalised traffic speeds will indicate this
[14:58] <saviorfromthenor> because when i looked up how to stop torrent using the router, they just it was not thateasy
[14:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> coz_, right at the bottom of the Green Download button theres a "Alternate Downlaod options"
[14:59] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  http://g.imagehost.org/0609/Screenshot-1.png
[14:59] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,  go here   http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server
[14:59] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, welcome to the more advanced topics of network management
[14:59] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,   click the "alternative download options
[14:59] <marekw2143> how to install pyside on ubuntu 8.10 64 bit?
[14:59] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,   there you can choose the  32 bit version
[14:59] <saviorfromthenor> its okay i will need it when i graduate
[15:00] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, you might like to explore the tutorials and tips section on ubunutu forums... i believe there are several threads regarding this topic of yours
[15:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, click with the other mouse button, and enable "wired"
[15:00] <saviorfromthenor> ill do that
[15:00] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  It is.
[15:00] <pawan> whats it man
[15:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, great, so, open terminal, edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove everything till stays just with the "lo" interface configuration, and restart the system
[15:01]  * Hexidismal sitting quietly observing ....
[15:01] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, you will also soon appreciate the features a particular modem might provide in this circumstance. (all in one devices are really not ideal for the application of controlled network traffic)
[15:01] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Reinstalling network manager then i shall do that
[15:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> Can someone do something about our little pawan and his nice talks about puberty?
[15:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, dont need to
[15:02] <nabil> hi can someone show me how to mount ext4 intenal drive as read/write...
[15:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> nabil, mount /dev/deviceX /media/mount-point -t ext4
[15:02] <saviorfromthenor> airtonix: how can you tell which is which?
[15:02] <erUSUL> nabil: mount -t ext4 /dev/sdxx /mount/point/
[15:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> nabil, also you can put the -o rw
[15:03] <Myrtti> AndreMorro[BR]: we are looking at him
[15:03] <Talon_> how can I make eth0 wait for my wireless to start
[15:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> Myrtti, didn't undestand...
[15:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> Myrtti, OOHH, Ok, gotcha
[15:04] <nabil> AndreMorro[BR], i need the [OPTIONS] for fstab
[15:04] <pawan> hello
[15:04] <nabil> erUSUL, i need the [OPTIONS] for fstab
[15:04] <Guest83165> graphics in my ubuntu is not starting, I am using 9.04
[15:04] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, it's a fairly extensive topic. but generally you would desire to have a switch seperate from the modem so you can put a computer between the two in order to apply squid traffic shaping rules
[15:04] <Jimi_Neutral> coz_, sorry completely missed the alternate download, cant see wood for trees
[15:04] <pawan> answer to my questions
[15:04] <erUSUL> nabil: for ext4 just use "defaults"
[15:04] <airtonix> !find squid
[15:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> nabil, allright, mount -t ext4 -o rw /dev/sdXX /media/mount-point
[15:04] <Jimi_Neutral> AndreMorro[BR], same message as the one to coz, sorry
[15:04] <maverick> Guest83165: Graphics?
[15:04] <coz_> Jimi_Neutral,  no problem
[15:04] <airtonix> !info squid-common
[15:05] <saviorfromthenor> ah,.. i think im getting it
[15:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, I can guive you the link if you want to
[15:05] <erUSUL> nabil: i personally use "defaults,noatime"
[15:05] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Done, and rebooting now
[15:05] <Guest83165> maverick: Visual effects1
[15:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, Oh, i just read you got it, great
[15:05] <Jimi_Neutral> AndreMorro[BR], nop its fine, i totally missed the alternate download link lol
[15:05] <Myrtti> pawan: what?
[15:05] <Jimi_Neutral> AndreMorro[BR], ty again
[15:05] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, despite its term it provides traffic shaping rules over various ports, source & destination IP address
[15:05] <pawan> nothing
[15:05] <nabil> erUSUL, thats exactly how mine is, but cant do anything, the mount point is /vms
[15:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> Jimi_Neutral, yw
[15:06] <maverick> Guest83165: do you mean the desktop environment (GNOME) or the special effects like wobbly windows?
[15:06] <pawan> i am going to sleep
[15:06] <erUSUL> nabil: make folders with sudo. then assing that folders to yourself or others as you see fit
[15:06] <pawan> is that okay
[15:06] <maverick> pawan: gn :P
[15:06] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, but again, if they use random ports and encryption then your task moves out of reach of software you can use on ubuntu
[15:06] <Myrtti> pawan: please do
[15:06] <saviorfromthenor> i think i came across that traffic shaping thing, does that mean that packets are checked before they arrive to their destination?
[15:06] <Guest83165> maverick: I meant GNOME one....I am using wubi
[15:06] <pawan> god give me good sleep
[15:06] <erUSUL> nabil: the other option (i do not like it) is to just chown the mount point to yourself
[15:07] <nabil> erUSUL, i made the mount point during ubuntu setup, so how do i assign......okok nvm =P
[15:07] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Now I cant connect to the thing
[15:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, sure about it?
[15:07] <maverick> Guest83165: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm using the console (Ctrl + Alt + F1)
[15:07] <chilli0> Yeh
[15:07] <saviorfromthenor> airtonix: if they use random ports will i still see their ip?
[15:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, have fisical access to the machine?
[15:08] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Ah its Ip would have changed.
[15:08]  * Hexidismal needs help to divert system memory to graphics card (Ubuntu 9.10_amd_64 with ATI 4500 serie card)
[15:08] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, also possible...
[15:08] <t0rc> Ubuntu Karmic / GRUB keeps booting slower and slower. Any thoughts? My HDD seems fine - it's not telling me its dying.
[15:08] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, by remote things, you should get a fixed ip, its better to work with, and
[15:08] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  It was static before.
[15:08] <saviorfromthenor> this place is so cool
[15:08] <arcanenix> true :)
[15:08] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, thats its why was unmanageble...
[15:08] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  You told me to delete my stuff from the confi
[15:08] <aron_> la
[15:09] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, yes.. but you will have a hard time applying traffic shaping rules to just torrents because then there are 64 thousand possible ports you will have to apply the rule to.. (unless of course you disable uPNP on your internet modem and lock them out of the port forwarding inteface so that you have control over which ports they are allowed to use)
[15:09] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, didin't knew it was fixed by hand thogh...
[15:09] <Talon_> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10, I followed the forums ics guide to share my internet on eth0, on reboot, eth0 starts before wireless connects, so eth0 is NOT sharing the net, I haveto restart it after wireless connects... How do I fix this so i don't haveto manually restart eth0 from network manager every time i boot?
[15:09] <nabil> erUSUL, thax a-lot, TC
[15:09] <Guest83165> maverick: I just now installed ubuntu and I am trying it out first then i'll be installing fully
[15:09] <chilli0> Oh. Winners. it connects
[15:09] <erUSUL> nabil: no problem
[15:09] <t0rc> Ubuntu Karmic is also initializing gnome-do before it starts compiz - or failing to start compiz all together. Help?
[15:09] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, i suggest you do some research on the topic of squid ... there are a few threads on the ubuntu forums about this
[15:10] <maverick> Guest83165: are you running it from the CD?
[15:10] <saviorfromthenor> really? that much? wow, well maybe i can just resort to confronting them when i catch them
[15:10] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  How can i restart my network ?
[15:10] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, what do you mean ?
[15:10] <maverick> chilli0: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:10] <Guest83165> maverick: no, told u that using wubi installer
[15:11] <chilli0> ty
[15:11] <airtonix> saviorfromthenor, you will find other programs on linux that do traffic shaping, one is for userland only (trickle) and a few other simplfied attempts to create interfaces for squid.
[15:11] <maverick> Guest83165: then i dont have an idea, try re-asking your question
[15:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, WUBI + no Gnome, thats right?
[15:12] <Guest83165> maverick: I've installed ubuntu inside windows
[15:13] <Guest83165> AndreMorro[BR]: i didn't understand
[15:13] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, describe your problem again please
[15:15] <saviorfromthenor> overwhelming info hehehe
[15:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> God... 13:15, hungry
[15:15] <Guest83165> AndreMorro[BR]: when i right click n enable visual effects then i get the mssg "desktop effects could not b enabled"
[15:16] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, Ok, maybe theres no 3D support for the Video-Card you're using, do you know wich model is it?
[15:16]  * Hexidismal would like to divert system memory to graphics card. Who can help? specs Ubuntu 9.10_amd_64 Ati radion mobility 4500 serie.
[15:16] <Guest83165> AndreMorro[BR]: ati radeon 3200 series
[15:17] <Deem> Guest83165: maybe you havent installed any videodriver... i+ve got the same problem at the beginning.
[15:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, first be sure to install the ATI Drivers by System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers (something like it)
[15:17] <Hexidismal> Geust i had similar problems with the 4500 serie - had to install thirdparty drivers
[15:17] <saviorfromthenor> anyway thanks airtonix, i should sleep now its 11:50 pm here
[15:17] <maverick> Gyest83165: system --> administration --> hardware drivers
[15:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, then reboot, and try enable again
[15:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> maverick, I'm using the whole desktop in Brazilian Portguese, need to imagine the name in english...
[15:18] <Guest83165> AndreMorro[BR]: where is restricted drivers
[15:18] <Guest83165> ?
[15:18] <maverick> AndreMorro[BR]: i was just trying to help :)
[15:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guest83165, System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[15:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> maverick, you are, I was just making a comment
[15:18] <erichammond> http://planet.ubuntu.com/ seems like it isn't updating with new blog entries.  Plus Jono's face (and mine) aren't showing up.
[15:19] <AndreMorro[BR]> in pt_BR it would be Sistema -> Administração -> Drivers de Hardware
[15:19] <Guest83165> AndreMorro[BR]: ty
[15:20] <alienn> Hi, I'm trying to get sudo-ldap to work. I had no problems on 8.04 TLS, but 9.10 is giving me headaches.
[15:20] <ewook> alienn: now that was a sweet thing I didn't know about.
[15:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> alienn, sudo apt-get install asparing , just kidding... afraid I can't help you
[15:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> ooops
[15:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> aspirin*
[15:20] <alienn> My 8.04 TLS clients still can sudo based on ldap sudoers, but 9.10 always gives me "user not in sudoers file".
[15:21] <jforman> is there a proper way to restart pulseaudio in karmic? it seems my audio has gone awol (banshee supposedly plays, but no audio comes out)
[15:21] <ewook> alienn: that's what I thought you had to do manually.
[15:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> alienn, make sure your user is in the sudoers
[15:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> or make a group entry
[15:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> like %admin ALL(ALL)
[15:21] <Pici> erichammond: Looks to be working here.  If you think theres a problem, #canonical-sysadmin would be the place to talk about it.
[15:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> and put users in the admin groupd
[15:21] <alienn> even changing sudoers_debug to something above 0 in /etc/ldap.conf changes nothing.
[15:22] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  How does I setup a static ip then ?
[15:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, easy way or hard way?
[15:22] <Pici> AndreMorro[BR]: admin is in /etc/sudoers by default, and adding the user to that group shouldn't require modifying the sudoers file at all.
[15:22] <alienn> AndreMorro[BR]: But this defeats the purpose of having a sudoers file on ldap...
[15:22] <chilli0> Easy way please.
[15:22] <fujnky1> why isn't there an up-to-date packet of mumble?
[15:22] <erichammond> Pici: Hm, thanks.  Seems like my Firefox cache got messed up.  Shift-Ctrl-R did the trick.
[15:22] <alienn> ewook: What do you mean "doing it manually"?
[15:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> Pici, ty,
[15:22] <nabil> chilli0, you want through gui ?
[15:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, click on network manager, eth0, configure, and there you can choose static IP
[15:23] <alienn> ewook: You mean compiling the package by hand?
[15:23] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  That doesn't work. ( I tried but it changes on reboot. )
[15:23] <crystalblue> if I try to auto-login under ubuntu-karmic, it crashes when accessing the gnome desktop
[15:24] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, than you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[15:24] <crystalblue> i get three seperate error messages
[15:24] <xxxxx> hello
[15:24] <crystalblue> one being that nautilus cannot create a home folder
[15:24] <nabil> chilli0, right click the network connections in the tray -> Wired -> Add -> IPv4 Settings -> Manual -> ....thats it and Apply
[15:25] <crystalblue> or access, something to that effect
[15:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> crystalblue, I had this once when I added a user by command, when I used the GUI tool, solved
[15:25] <chilli0> nabil,  I try that. But on restart it doesn,t wok
[15:25] <nabil> chilli0, you can save a connectin name and it will remember....
[15:25] <nabil> chilli0, make sure the connect automatically is ticked tho
[15:26]  * AndreMorro[BR] Young pawan is back, I feel
[15:26]  * AndreMorro[BR] Wrong I feel
[15:26] <nabil> chilli0, and if you have multiple users, make sure to tick for all users...
[15:26] <phox_> Why cant i create/change files in /etc/samba?
[15:27] <Myrtti> phox_: are you using sudo to do that?
[15:27] <AndreMorro[BR]> phox_, only root can do that, try using sudo
[15:27] <crystalblue> where can I get the GUI tool?
[15:27] <crystalblue> is there a specific package name?
[15:27] <AndreMorro[BR]> crystalblue, System -> Administration -> users and Groups
[15:27] <phox_> Myrtti: nope, natutilus
[15:27] <phox_> or whatever its called
[15:27] <Myrtti> phox_: gksu nautilus then
[15:28] <phox_> myrtti: in terminal?
[15:28] <Myrtti> phox_: or "Run..."
[15:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> !gksu | phox_
[15:28] <Myrtti> phox_: you really need to be careful with that then
[15:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> phox_, you can press alt F2 to type the gksu nautilus
[15:28]  * JeoMAN stands and bows
[15:29] <JeoMAN> hello all my children
[15:29] <phox_> myrtti: thx
[15:29] <AndreMorro[BR]> !hi | JeoMAN
[15:29] <AndreMorro[BR]> Goooosh I really like the ! thingy
[15:29] <Myrtti> AndreMorro[BR]: just don't overdo it ;-)
[15:29] <Trek> don't abuse it, AndreMorro.  you'll be screwed over if you do
[15:29] <chilli0> nabil,  Failed.
[15:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> Myrtti, Trek sorry, got excited
[15:31] <crystalblue> AndreMorro[BR] there is an option to not ask for password on login, but its greyed out, I cannot check box it.
[15:31] <zsolt94> Can anyone help me?
[15:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> crystalblue, theres a Key in the bottom that unlock the app
[15:31] <Pitel> how to use sip in empathy?
[15:31] <zsolt94> I find a mediaplayer, which can stream to IceCast
[15:31] <alienn> *arg* in 8.04 sudo-ldap used the file /etc/ldap/ldap.conf (docu says /etc/ldap.conf) now in 9.10 it uses /etc/sudo-ldap.conf (docu still says /etc/ldap.conf) *arg*
[15:32] <crystalblue> i
[15:32]  * alienn has a very deep desire to kick somthing/somebody...
[15:32]  * alienn has a very deep desire to kick something/somebody...
[15:32] <crystalblue> i have sudo privaledges and there is no unlock button
[15:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> crystalblue, le me do a check
[15:33] <crystalblue> kk
[15:33] <nastas> hi all
[15:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> crystalblue, you got that right... don't know how to move on know
[15:33] <zsolt94> Can anyone help me? I find a music player which can stream to IceCast!
[15:33] <crystalblue> ok thanks for your help thus far.
[15:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> zsolt94, xmms or audacious
[15:34] <cjohnston> Interested in learning about how to do development work in Ubuntu? Join in on the Ubuntu Developer Week to learn! Ubuntu Developer Week is starting in approx. 30 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat   - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek for more info
[15:34] <crystalblue> ill try to figure it out from here.
[15:34] <zsolt94> I can't use xmms
[15:34] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  How can i see what file type a usb is ?
[15:34] <Trek> chilli0, gparted will show the filesystem on the device
[15:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, cat /proc/mounts
[15:35] <Trek> chilli0, that will too :)
[15:35] <chilli0> Omg...
[15:35]  * NINJA appeared in a puff of smoke
[15:35] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  When ever I try static i get the same error we got before
[15:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, off couse, why you wanna manage a static connection??
[15:36] <YeTr2> since /etc/inittab is gone, how do I tell what the default runlevel is on an ubuntu system?
[15:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> YeTr2, great question... I wanna know also
[15:36] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  Itsa  server. Its got lots of data that i and family access dayly.
[15:36] <Pici> !runlevels | YeTr2 AndreMorro[BR]
[15:36] <chilli0> That the network file http://pastebin.com/m485c827e
[15:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, so, I'll ask again, why manage a static connection??
[15:37] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  So i dont have to change the connection infomation every reboot ?
[15:37] <googleit> has anyone ever used gnuboy-svga
[15:37] <YeTr2> so. 1 = 2,3,4,5 as well?
[15:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, it wont...
[15:37] <Pici> YeTr2: no, 2 = 3 = 4 = 5
[15:38] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR], It does. If its not static it will change.
[15:38] <riku_> There is no sound in my laptop,I am using 9.04, I've just installed audio codecs
[15:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> chilli0, but.. the way the file is now, still when you reboot it changes the IP?
[15:38] <YeTr2> I have an init script I need to add so it starts on boot. where do I put it then?
[15:39] <chilli0> AndreMorro[BR],  It sets it to 192.168.254.9
[15:39] <YeTr2> after /etc/init.d/
[15:39] <chilli0> What i want
[15:39] <Trek> riku_ try rebooting, I had that issue as well until I rebooted
[15:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> YeTr2, /etc/init.d/ then update.rc runlevel file
[15:39] <zsolt94> AndreMorro[BR] Thanks audacious is fine
[15:39] <Pici> YeTr2: You can use /etc/rc.local or see the upstart factoid about creating your own upstart script.
[15:39] <googleit> has anyone ever used gnuboy-svga before and perhaps could help me?
[15:40] <riku_> ty, Trek i'll try that
[15:40] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[15:41] <maverick> how can i restart the libnotify service?
[15:43] <YeTr2> update.rc does not seem to exist.
[15:45] <dirty> can someone help me with hotsync with a palm pre on ubuntu 10.4
[15:45] <Pici> dirty: 10.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 only.
[15:45] <Pici> YeTr2: do you mean update-rc.d ?
[15:46] <dirty> Pici can you tell me how to get to that station
[15:46] <ailaG> hi, i'm new to ubuntu. i want to try to install that & boxee on a 9-year-old laptop and turn it into a media center. should i install normal ubuntu or ubuntu netbook remix?
[15:46] <Pici> dirty: type /join #ubuntu+1
[15:46] <bastid_raZor> dirty: /join #ubuntu+1
[15:46] <dirty> thank you
[15:47] <Pici> ailaG2: 'normal' Ubuntu would be easier to work with.  netbook remix is really only optimized for netbooks with small screens, and doesn't differ much other than that.
[15:48] <mkjackson> Hey Folks, I'm running Karmic and I can't remember if I had decided to encrypt my home directory or not... is there an easy way to verify if I did or didn't chose to encrypt it
[15:48] <Sungod123> When I boot from Kubuntu 9.10 CD then the initial menu (with e.g. the keymap and language menu) is displayed but the actual full Ubuntu is not successful booted later. After some minutes only the cursor is visible on a black screen. it keeps blinking and nothing happens, can anyone help?
[15:49] <chilli0> Hi I have ubuntu 9.10 on a cd here and ive lost the .iso can i get that cd turned into an iso again ?
[15:49] <vad0r> what is a good ssh/telnet manager for ubuntu besides putty?  I normally use securecrt for windows and would like something similar
[15:50] <dirty> where can i find a list of irc channels
[15:50] <jellow> dirty:  /list
[15:50] <dirty> thanks
[15:50] <Myrtti> !irc | dirty, also check /msg alis help
[15:51] <p2000> Gerard
[15:52] <the_doctor1994> anybody know about graphics and 6.10?
[15:52] <u19809> hi all I compiled some lib on 64 bit 9.10 using gcc4 targetted at 32 bit ... When I copy over the exe to a 9.04 unbuntu I get glibc_2.10 errors.  HOw can I compile for 9/04 on a 9.10 system ? Using gcc4.3 ? Is that compatible with gcc 4?
[15:52] <timbojimbo> my screen saver is acting buggy. Whenever I put my password in to get to my desktop the screen saver reappears frozen. I can alt-tab to different open programs but none show up. My only option has been to restart my computer every time. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and gnome
[15:53] <niko> 12
[15:55] <ekontsevoy> I somehow removed mysel from sudoers file, but I am still a member of adm group. Can I restore my root rights?
[15:55] <ryurik> привет народ, помогите настроить какой нить сипклиент, а то не фига не выходит
[15:55] <the_doctor1994> is anyone answering questions?
[15:56] <adalal> the_doctor1994: depends if anyone here knows the answer to your query
[15:56] <ryurik> есть тут кто?
[15:56] <sipior> the_doctor1994: if no one is answering your question, consider phrasing it better.
[15:56] <adalal> !ru | ryurik
[15:56] <the_doctor1994> ok. can someone troubleshoot x windows errors?
[15:57] <adalal> anyone here know any dynamic dns service where i can use wildcards and map address using my own dns server?
[15:57] <sipior> the_doctor1994: you'll get a better response if you pose as specific a question as possible.
[15:57] <ailaG2> thanks pici (was lagged, only saw the reply now)
[15:57] <bastid_raZor> adalal: dyndns.com
[15:57] <zsolt94> How can I configure audacious IceCast plugin?
[15:57] <adalal> bastid_raZor: is that a free service for the wildcard?
[15:57] <the_doctor1994> is there a way to repair an ubuntu installation for a video driver?
[15:58] <maverick_> pidgin-libnotify just uses the libnotify package and not the notification-daemon right?
[15:58] <adalal> the_doctor1994: what do you mean?
[15:58] <adalal> the_doctor1994: which video card is it?
[15:58] <bastid_raZor> adalal: not a 100% sure, it offers a wildcard option for me and i use it free. i have yet to use that feature though.
[15:58] <the_doctor1994> x windows comes up with an error stating itr cannot load
[15:58] <the_doctor1994> this is because of a missing nvidia driver
[15:59] <e3co> When a livecd leaves getty and moves onto login, where are the configuration files for that? I want to make login either not happen, or auto login and launch rdesktop with some perimeter.
[15:59] <adalal> bastid_raZor: asks for a pro subscription
[15:59] <adalal> the_doctor1994: run nvidia-config.. from a terminal
[16:01] <e3co> anyone?
[16:02] <sheikh> hello guys
[16:02] <sheikh> do know how to set permenant route in ubuntu 8.10
[16:02] <e3co> When a livecd leaves getty and moves onto login, where are the configuration files for that? I want to make login either not happen, or auto login and launch rdesktop with some perimeter.
[16:03] <sheikh> "Add a permenant route"
[16:03] <sheikh> ?
[16:03] <Boohbah> good morning
[16:03] <adalal> monin
[16:03] <adalal> mornin*
[16:03] <booh> good morning
[16:03] <Flamekebab> My karmic install constantly throws I/O errors on a particular hard disk. I don't keep anything important on that disk and plan on removing it, but it keeps filling up stupid amounts of space through logfiles. How do I tell it to not try to access the particular bad sector?
[16:03] <adalal> sheikh: what do you mean by permanent route?
[16:04] <and> Hi people!  Im trying to mount an SSD disk using a sata-to-usb tool.   Disk is unrecognized and "SMART is not avialable"..  Anyone with a good tip for how to make this possible?
[16:04] <chilli0> How can i make nfs accept all connections ?
[16:04] <sheikh> i mean permenant route to /etc/interfaces file so that i dont have to use "route add" command everytime is restart my machine
[16:04] <googleit> anyone use visual boy advanced on 9.10
[16:04] <SwedeMike> and: works for me, I do that all the time. SMART might not work, but it should work over usb anyway
[16:05] <sheikh> thats a route to our network
[16:05] <DreamDemon> Any compiling geeks on today?
[16:07] <DreamDemon> When trying to compile a custom stripped down kernel for my server using a branch, it's failing every time during the staging drivers when creating the binary.  This has been from following this howto - http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/11/03/how-to-compile-a-kernel-for-ubuntu-karmic/
[16:07] <flash__> hi
[16:08] <sipior> e3co: you might look at some of the options in /etc/pam.d/login, but i'm not sure you can do everything you want from there, in particular launching rdesktop. could be wrong, have a look.
[16:08] <phox_> How do i rename a external harddrive? It says i doesnt it cant be done when i just rightclick and choose rename
[16:08] <sipior> DreamDemon: failing how?
[16:08] <e3co> sipior:  thanks I will check it out
[16:08] <DreamDemon> sipior, Lemme do a pastebin
[16:08] <Flamekebab> Disabling a known bad sector on a hard disk? (not the root partition)
[16:09] <DreamDemon> sipior, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m63a6da0e
[16:10] <pat|nG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJjPuU-808 <----can anyone tell me how to make icons the same like in 0:45? on the center below the screen? pls?
[16:10] <Myrtti> pat|nG: awn / cairo-dock is a wild guess without looking at the video
[16:11] <manuel_> hi
[16:11] <kanzie> I set my nvidia-settings to use xinerama or whatever it was called trying to get my tv to work as expected and now the screen is all black. How can I exit to shell and restore xorg.config?
[16:11] <Zer> Is it possible to get a single package from the 10.04 repositories, but generally keep one's version at 9.10?
[16:11] <manuel_>  i want to recompile my kernel to build a few module in it but i want not use my current config
[16:11] <manuel_> there was a command for a minal kernel conf but i cant remember
[16:12] <Myrtti> Zer: on your own risk. I'd rather install it some other way. what are you trying to install?
[16:12] <pat|nG> Myrtti: awn/cairo-dock?
[16:12] <Myrtti> !info cairo-dock | pat|nG
[16:12] <bastid_raZor> pat|nG: that is  cario-dock .. not sure which theme but it is available from them
[16:12] <oversize> i have installed munin from https://launchpad.net/~munin-builds/+archive/munin , how can i check if the cron is running? i guess its supposed to be installed with the package? but i dont see any logs, thats why i think the cron might not be running.
[16:12] <Zer> acl 2.2.49
[16:12] <Myrtti> !info avant-window-navigator | pat|nG
[16:12] <Zer> It has a bug fix over 2.2.47, but in Canonical's infinite wisdom, they only have it in 10.04
[16:13] <Zer> Namely, 2.2.47 will, contrary to its man page, recurse symlinks even when told not to, setting ACLs
[16:13] <phox_> How do i rename a external harddrive? It says i doesnt it cant be done when i just rightclick and choose rename..
[16:13] <pat|nG> how can i install that?
[16:13] <pat|nG> i'm new to ubuntu so sori for disturbance
[16:13] <Trek> phox_ try using gparted to rename the drive after its unmounted
[16:13] <pat|nG> :)
[16:13] <aaron11> I'm having some problems while emptying the trash in Evolution. It's not doing so and its giving an error like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362686/ . On Karmic!
[16:13] <Myrtti> pat|nG: surely you know how to install software in Ubuntu? use synaptic/apt-get/aptitude/add-remove
[16:13] <Trek> phox_ it might be because the device is currently mounted
[16:13] <Zer> How does one do it, then? At my own risk, having the old version for some reason, I ended up following Wine's z: symlink and setfacl'ing my entire hard drive
[16:13] <Zer> :)
[16:14] <sipior> DreamDemon: you might try disabling the compilation of the problematic drivers temporarily, make sure everything else works as intended. check also to see if any updates exist on the branch you selected.
[16:14] <Whoami> phox_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[16:15] <sipior> DreamDemon: or just grab the ubuntu linux sources package, and build from there.
[16:15] <furythor> is there some channel for web development ?
[16:15] <DreamDemon> sipior, that is buidling from the git source
[16:16] <sipior> DreamDemon: i understand that, simply disable the problem drivers at the configuration step.
[16:16] <DreamDemon> sipior, and when I de-select all the extra stuff for my specific 'flavor' it's mergint it from somewhere else
[16:17] <ejcweb> I have got Ubuntu installed on my Dell Studio laptop, and everything seems to work fine apart from the fact that the laptop fan now seems to be permanently on at full speed, whereas under Windows it is much quieter and presumably controlled depending on the CPU activity or something. Is this a known problem, and is there anything I can safely do to resolve it? Thanks.
[16:17] <OerHeks> hi is there a program/plugin  wich shows formats of all pictures in nautilus like this :  photo.jpg  01-25-2009   1024x768x16
[16:17] <DreamDemon> OerHeks, gimp?
[16:17] <furythor> is it any safer for structure of website IF I place multiple website under one main domain or place actual sub site directories to outside of apache document root ?
[16:18] <DreamDemon> OerHeks, or do you mean from the file browser?
[16:18] <sipior> DreamDemon: you might try ignoring the debian package business for now, and just verify that you can indeed build the sources you checked out.
[16:19] <erUSUL> OerHeks: identify from imagemagick
[16:19] <DreamDemon> sipior, So just pull the kernel from kernel.org and do a manual build?
[16:19] <OerHeks> DreamDemon i'd like to view from a filebrowser, gimp is fine, but i can't find it
[16:19] <erUSUL> OerHeks: sample output --> file.jpeg  JPEG 1024x768 1024x768+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 200kb
[16:20] <LuxOFlux> ecjweb: Add the CPU Frequency Scaling-applet to your panel and set cpu freq scaling to "on demand".
[16:20] <sipior> DreamDemon: well, you've already cloned the ubuntu karmic kernel repository, so just try to build it as you would a vanilla kernel.
[16:20] <erUSUL> OerHeks: nvm i thought you wanted it for command line
[16:20] <OerHeks> nic, thnx erUSUL, iĺl have a look at imagemagic
[16:20] <aaron11> I'm having some problems while emptying the trash in Evolution. It's not doing so and its giving an error like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362686/ . On Karmic!
[16:20] <OerHeks> erURSUL that was my first thought, but i couldn't find a example for CLI
[16:21] <DreamDemon> sipior, k - I'll try one other thing first which would be to over-write the common file with the custom config so it will eliminate what I dont want during merge
[16:21] <erUSUL> !tab
[16:22] <riku__> no sound in my laptop
[16:22] <riku__> jst installed ubuntu 9.04
[16:22] <riku__> plz help
[16:23] <anirban_c8> Hi
[16:23] <anirban_c8> I am having a problem
[16:24] <riku__> no sound in my laptop,jst installed 9.04
[16:24] <riku__> plz help
[16:24] <anirban_c8> my laptop stopped botting saying VFS can not synch root(0,0)
[16:24] <erUSUL> !sound
[16:24] <anirban_c8> so I boot with a live cd and chroot my old system
[16:24] <anirban_c8> but now there is no hdd under /dev
[16:25] <anirban_c8> so I cannot run grub-install
[16:26] <Boohbah> anirban_c8: does the livecd contain a driver for your hard drive controller?
[16:26] <anirban_c8> yeah
[16:26] <karma_police> i just installed firefox 3.6 and flash isn't working..  any ideas?
[16:27] <anirban_c8> cause I able to mount all my partitions  before chroot
[16:27] <delta> karma_police, have you installed the flash-plugin?
[16:27] <riku__> ubottu:where i can find volume control??
[16:28] <karma_police> it worked before i installed the latest version of firefox.. i even uninstalled and reinstalled adobe from ubuntu software center
[16:28] <delta> karma_police, flashplugin-nonfree?
[16:28] <delta> this is the one you need.
[16:28] <anirban_c8> riku_ you can found it under your main menu -> Suonds
[16:28] <hiexpo> ? anyone familiar with webboard to paste to pastebin
[16:28] <karma_police> whats the command for that? i'll try it
[16:29] <delta> karma_police, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:29] <karma_police> that the same for 64 bit also?
[16:29] <delta> this is what worked for me... so no guarantee ;)
[16:29] <delta> yes, i'm using ubuntu_x64 right now.
[16:29] <phox_> I want to set chmod 0777 on a folder, who has a space in its name. This causes problems. I type "sudo chmod 077 /media/My external/" in terminal, and it says the folders or something. How can i get by this?
[16:30] <karma_police> brb
[16:30] <nibbler> phox_: only quote the path, not the whole command
[16:30] <geirha> phox_: "quote it"
[16:30] <Boohbah> phox_: sudo chmod 0777 "/media/My external"
[16:30] <llutz> phox_: sudo chmod 077 /media/My\ external/"
[16:30] <kinja-sheep> phox_: Use double-tab to complete the path if you can.
[16:30] <Boohbah> phox_: or escape with backslash as llutz says
[16:31] <geirha> phox_: Setting 0777 mode is almost always wrong though
[16:31] <Aciid> my mouse stopped working, how do I restart mouse support
[16:31] <Boohbah> phox_: yeah, read write for everyone is not good for most files
[16:31] <Aciid> re-pluggin it in and out wont work
[16:31] <karma_police> that did not work.. do you have firefox 3.6 installed delta?
[16:31] <phox_> geirha: a guide says i need it to share it to windows properly
[16:31] <Aciid> info | !mouse
[16:31] <Boohbah> geirha: on the other hand, if it is a local machine there shouldn't be an issue
[16:31] <geirha> phox_: Then the guide should be banned
[16:31] <delta> karma_police, have you removed the other packages you installed before?
[16:32] <delta> this might cause problems.
[16:32] <Aciid> !mouse
[16:32] <ejcweb> LuxOFlux: I already have the CPU Frequency Scaling applet on the top panel and it is set to "on demand".
[16:32] <phox_> geirha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[16:32] <stefan_> How can I kick a self-owned nick from the server? Cant log in with my nick :/
[16:32] <karma_police> i installed it from the ubuntu software center the first time
[16:33] <aaron11> !ask | anirban_c8
[16:33] <karma_police> it was working fine with the repo version of firefox.. i attempted to install the new firefox 3.6 and it says flash not installed
[16:33] <geirha> phox_: My experience with samba is limited, but I'm quite sure there's a better way than setting 777 on a folder.
[16:33] <delta> karma_police, then i have no ideas... sorry.
[16:34] <DreamDemon> phox_, Just go NFS - it's faster anyway
[16:35] <phox_> Dreamdemon? what do you mean?
[16:35] <karma_police> me neither..  flash sux on linux.. breaks too easy
[16:35] <oversize> i have installed munin from a ubuntu ppa, but my cronjobs seem not to run. /etc/crond.d/munin should get picked up by cron without configuration, right?
[16:35] <anirban_c8> I cannot from my laptop grub showing cannot sync VFS root(0,0) also when I chrooted the system from a live cd there is no hdd devices
[16:35] <LuxOFlux> ecjweb: try powersave modus.
[16:35] <DreamDemon> phox_, Samba is a slug for thruput 1-3mb on a 100mb network.  NFS is 20-40mb thruput
[16:36] <phox_> Okey! Is it easy to install?
[16:36] <pmvalente> Hi, I saw the bluetooth icon on the right panel, but can't access, any ideas, in what group do I need to be. thx
[16:36] <geirha> Boohbah: I'd say better learn and do it the right way from the start, until the time were it does pose a major security issue, instead of a minor. E.g. suddenly you decide to set up lamp, and install some webapp with a security. Voila, full access to the share, uploading viruses and whatnot.
[16:36] <geirha> Boohbah: *security hole
[16:36] <DreamDemon> phox_, easier then samba.  plenty of how-to's out there on how to do it.  If you need a NFS client for a winblows box, MS hsa free unix services which only require mild configuration
[16:37] <Diilbert> I am having an issue with ethtool not displaying the correct information for eth2 and eth3.  ethtool and dmesg are telling two different stories.
[16:37] <karma_police> is anyone else running firefox 3.6 with a working flash?
[16:37] <Diilbert> any ideas?
[16:37] <Myrtti> !ghost > stefan_
[16:37] <fatih> hi everyone. i have a problem with my "canon i-sensys mf4140" printer. i finally instaled the driver but now when i print a document, printer alerts about paper. when i push the ok button on printer, it prints the last printed document again. if any of u know some about this, can query me ?
[16:37] <karma_police> ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <karma_police> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <Zer> Sigh. Why in hell does gettext have a CVS dependency?
[16:38] <cgroza> hello, i wold like to know why hardy heron works faster than karmic koala on my 256 mb ram PC
[16:38] <jerryc> anyon have issues with mediawiki not displaying after the first page
[16:38] <geirha> Zer: Not a dependancy, a recommendation
[16:38] <chipgeri> after installing windows 7 i recovered grub but its not showing windows..how do i fix it?
[16:38] <Zer> Well, Synaptic feels it's a dependency
[16:38] <kellopes> hello.. i need help on getting my wireless card installed? who can PLEASE help me??
[16:38] <Zer> Let me try apt
[16:38] <Trek> because hardy takes less resources, cgroza
[16:38] <geirha> Zer: Though still, silly recommendation, I agree :)
[16:39] <karma_police> !grub
[16:39] <DreamDemon> chipgeri, You still need the boot image for windows 7.  It behaves/boots different then xp
[16:39] <scunizi> Zer: no need to teach kids in here how to swear.. it's against the CoC
[16:39] <Zer> Huh?
[16:39] <cgroza> Trek, well on the oficial site the hardware requirments are the same
[16:39] <fatih> any other support channel please ?
[16:39] <geirha> Zer: aptitude has a --without-recommends option
[16:39] <Zer> geirha: Say, how does one change it so it doesn't try to default to installing recommendations, then?
[16:39] <Zer> Oho
[16:40] <Zer> Very handy'
[16:40] <Zer> Maybe I can install PHP without installing Apache as well, then... hehehe
[16:40] <fatih> hi everyone. i have a problem with my "canon i-sensys mf4140" printer. i finally instaled the driver but now when i print a document, printer alerts about paper. when i push the ok button on printer, it prints the last printed document again. if any of u know some about this, can query me ?
[16:40] <kellopes> someone can please help me to get my wirless card working..
[16:40] <kellopes> i have being trying this many different ways.. and nothing works..
[16:40] <pmvalente> found, thx anyway
[16:41] <hiexpo> how do i use webboard to post to pastebin
[16:41] <kellopes> i am about to give up on this.. i need help..
[16:41] <DreamDemon> kellopes, Did you check the restricted drivers?
[16:41] <geirha> Zer: For apt-get, --no-install-recommends
[16:41] <kellopes> i think so.. DreamDemon
[16:41] <dcdc> .Im   UsinG. .H4cKeRzE.
[16:41] <kellopes> i have a AR5001
[16:41] <Zer> Hmm, nope, php5 still requires Apache. But let me try that for gettext.
[16:41] <Zer> I see. Is there a .conf I can make it default to that?
[16:41] <Baram> anyone here that knows the wine code well?
[16:42] <DreamDemon> kellopes, maybe if you do a lspci and locate your wireless card, post that info to channel someone can help better?
[16:42] <geirha> Zer: Yes, see ''man apt-get''
[16:42] <Myrtti> Baram: I'm sure people at #winehq might have more than us ;-)
[16:42] <kellopes> DreamDemon, should i just copy and past here?
[16:42] <Myrtti> !pastebin | kellopes
[16:42] <chipgeri> DreamDemon: what exactly shud i do to dualboot windows 7 and ubuntu?
[16:42] <DreamDemon> kellopes, or use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[16:42] <geirha> Zer: php5-cli ...
[16:42] <Baram> myrtti yes, but that channel requires you to go through the whole registration process to ask one simple question ;)  I just need help knowing where to look
[16:43] <Zer> Yeah, I'm using php5-cgi for that reason
[16:43] <Myrtti> Baram: registering is never a bad idea
[16:43] <DreamDemon> chipgeri, I remember seeing something special about win7 & later in regards to dual booting.  it was a complex setup because of the way win7 wriets to the mbr - try googling for it
[16:44] <jerryc> no medawiki problems form anyone here...
[16:44] <kellopes> DreamDemon, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m19a7466
[16:44] <Zer> Hmm, actually, man apt_preference's /etc/apt/preferences does not exist on Ubuntu. preferences.d does, but no hint on how to use. Though, that's fine, since 99% of the time I am using Synaptic
[16:44] <aaron11> !ask | anirban_c8
[16:44] <aaron11> I'm having some problems while emptying the trash in Evolution. It's not doing so and its giving an error like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/362686/ . On Karmic!
[16:45] <ejcweb> LuxOFlux: What is 'powersave modus'?
[16:45] <kellopes> DreamDemon, i already tryied ndiswrapper.. it worked at first.. but then when i restarted the computer.. it stoped
[16:45] <DreamDemon> kellopes, 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[16:46] <DreamDemon> kellopes, Thats your wireless.  i know nothing about that particular wireless card.  Repost your issue withthat information
[16:46] <phox_> When i try to change permissions on a folder, from "my username" to "smbshare", it directly changes back to "my username" without my touching anything. Why? It is on a external harddrive.
[16:46] <kellopes> DreamDemon, you mean here?
[16:47] <DreamDemon> kellopes, Yes, here in the channel
[16:47] <erUSUL> phox_: what filesystem type
[16:47] <phox_> erusul: NTFS i think
[16:47] <Trek> DreamDemon kellopes, I think there's support on Atheros cards already at ubuntuforums.org if no support is offered here
[16:47] <DreamDemon> Trek, Thanks for the FYI, kellopes is the one needing the info
[16:47] <erUSUL> phox_: ntfs does not support unix permision/owner on files it can not store them
[16:47] <phox_> erusul: i try to move the slider that says group to sambashare, but it wont let me
[16:47] <kellopes> Trek, i tryied the foruns.. couldnt find so much help..
[16:48] <erUSUL> phox_: the system fakes all this at mount time and therefore you can not change them
[16:48] <phox_> Erusul: okey, how do i solve that? i dont want to format it and change it
[16:48] <Trek> kellopes, you might consider posting a thread under Networking & Wireless on the forums as well as seeking support here
[16:48] <LuxOFlux> ejcweb: I don`t really know. Sounds like it should run your cpu's at lower clockrate.
[16:48] <erUSUL> phox_: mount them with the proper uid guid options
[16:48] <erUSUL> !ntfs | phox_
[16:48] <phox_> Erusul: is that hard to do?
[16:49] <kellopes> Trek, i have being trying in the foruns and looking over some documentation.. i already installed ndiswrapper too.. worked in the beginin and then stoped..
[16:49] <sa1981_>  everyone
[16:49] <kellopes> Trek, i have a lot of things to do with my computer.. not a lot of time to wait.. and the foruns are going to slow.. so i am trying help through the IRC
[16:50] <sa1981_> hey
[16:50] <papul> any one of u tell me how to use sonata?
[16:50] <sa1981_> does anyone know how to backup kopete messages?
[16:50] <welll-one> hi
[16:50] <sa1981_> history messages
[16:50] <kellopes> Trek, do you know something about this problem? can you help or should i try some one else?
[16:50] <znh>  De logs van dit kanaal zijn te vinden op http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode. Hou de ubuntu 'Code Of Conduct' in gedachten als je hier chat.
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[16:50] <znh>  I installed tsclient but I don't see an option to fill the whole screen. Is there any application that can? I'd like to keep taskbars
[16:50] <Trek> understandable, kellopes.  i personally use an Intel wifi card so there's no issues on my end.  you might try someone else, unfortunately
[16:50] <bastid_raZor> sa1981_: possibly ask in #kubuntu  ..also is there a ~/.kopete directory?
[16:50] <Bizzeh> hi, based on this http://pastebin.com/m1283a524 i cannot encode to mp3 audio for flv. what would i need to apt-get to be able to enable mp3 encoding in ffmpeg
[16:50] <znh> Oops. sorry for that
[16:51] <Copenhagen> hey guys work at computer shop looking for a good program to recover data from a damaged ntfs partition any ideas pm me pls
[16:51] <kellopes> Trek, thanks anyways..
[16:51] <znh> Is there an application for rdesktop that has 'fill whole screen' option? I know the resolution but can't configure
[16:51] <kinetic_> Copenhagen , ubuntu or knoppix live cd
[16:51] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: hm, there is but i dont know where the history files are
[16:51] <erUSUL> Copenhagen: photorec from testdisk package ?
[16:51] <Copenhagen> ubuntu
[16:51] <erUSUL> !undelete | Copenhagen
[16:51] <Copenhagen> have it duel booted
[16:51] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: I am using kopete under ubuntu, is there another program you prefer?
[16:52] <briana> ok
[16:52] <kellopes> ok.. is there anybody out there who can help to install a Atheros Wireles Card - AR5001?
[16:52] <phox_> erusul: can you help me to fake that thing? I know the name of the hardrive, its sda1
[16:52] <kinetic_> sa1981 pidgin_
[16:52] <bastid_raZor> sa1981_: dig around in that directory.. they should be there. that is if you told kopete to log messages.. i use pidgin but empathy is the defualt
[16:52] <kellopes> ok.. is there anybody out there who can help to install a Atheros Wireles Card - AR5001?
[16:52] <|QED|> what's the brand kellopes?
[16:52] <Copenhagen> cool thanks guys
[16:52] <erUSUL> phox_: what is the uid of smbshare user/group ?
[16:52] <kellopes> |QED|, Atheros
[16:53] <sa1981_> hmm
[16:53] <kellopes> what is the command to send a message to a especific person? like to use their nick name?
[16:53] <sa1981_> kinetic_: know but I dont like pidgin
[16:53] <erUSUL> !tab | kellopes
[16:53] <erUSUL> !who | kellopes
[16:54] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: yes I did tell kopete to log them
[16:54] <sa1981_> basti
[16:54] <phox_> erusul: what does uid stand for? i googled it. Can it be found in the samba conf?
[16:54] <jph_> I have a small scale web server for a small organization... we don't really want to be listed anywhere, don't want to be bothered... the website is for basic information distribution and employee login...  How do i keep us in the gray i have already created the robots.txt with useragent: * and disallow: all  hat else can i add to that file and what else can I do to the box to keep people form just randomly finding us
[16:54] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: will try using pidgin then...I need to format my computer, it has gotten slow funny enough
[16:54] <erUSUL> phox_: i think it is a group so it is guid and in my system is "sambashare 127"
[16:54] <kellopes> !tab, test
[16:54] <bastid_raZor> sa1981_: completely your choice. there is no greater IM than any other.. just personal preference
[16:55] <DreamDemon> jph_, You can also use a .htaccess to control who has access to it since robots.txt isnt always followed
[16:55] <erUSUL> phox_: can you show me the output of "grep sda1 /proc/mounts " ?
[16:55] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: kool, thnx alot. I have another problem if you have time
[16:55] <|QED|> robot.txt is intended to be used by bots (aka spider) like google bot to update the database
[16:55] <briana> So, last night I could not get an answer here so I tried to uninstall pulse audio and a few games and things as well.  After that, i could not boot into Ubuntu, and I reinstalled but now I see that my partition was very small, and the old partition is still there, but not recognized.  I need to know if there is any way to recover my old files, and also just to make this partition larger
[16:56] <|QED|> isnt anything mandatory, just an instruction
[16:56] <|QED|> .htaccess is mandatory
[16:56] <jph_> DreamDemon can you recommend a template file or something that i can then modify to meet our needs like one that says if your not coming from some IP from within the US disallow
[16:56] <phox_> erusul: no such file or directory.. Tried all of the sda's, not only sda1
[16:56] <pat|nG> where can i download themes?
[16:56] <DreamDemon> jph_, there is a ton of info which can be found on google for it
[16:57] <jorn644> hello
[16:57] <erUSUL> phox_: sure you did not made a typo? is " grep sda1 /proc/mounts " ?
[16:57] <jorn644> its
[16:57] <jorn644> it
[16:57] <pmvalente> why I can't access to bluetooth configuration, icon on the panel, in what group should I be?
[16:57] <jorn644> it's cool to see irssi works =)
[16:57] <bastid_raZor> !themes | pat|nG
[16:57] <Enigmator> briana I just hope you didn't made modification to your partition table bcs it's gonna be very difficult to recover anything then
[16:58] <briana> not as far as I know
[16:58] <DreamDemon> sipior, ok, compiled better this time but still did not generate all the files. It came up with a control error issue
[16:58] <serjj> heyyy o
[16:58] <erUSUL> briana: from a livecd mount the old partition all files should be still there (if the partition is still there as you said)
[16:59] <erUSUL> briana: you can copy them to a external disk or whatever
[16:59] <briana> I installed gparted...it says it is there
[16:59] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: cant get my webcam to work
[16:59] <Xfact> I am having a wireless broadband connection (BSNL/MTNL) that connects through USB wireless modem, the company gave me the driver installation disk for windows only and currently they are not providing support for any other OS users, can anybody tell me how to connect that wireless USB modem?
[16:59] <briana> just unrecognized
[16:59] <sa1981_> bastid_raZor: under skype
[16:59] <TeckniX> Hello
[16:59] <TeckniX> Is there a good xftp program for Ubuntu
[17:00] <sangho> FileZila
[17:00] <briana> ok must look
[17:00] <TeckniX> something that would allow server to server transfer without going through the user's connection?
[17:00] <DreamDemon> TeckniX, gFTP
[17:00] <Xfact> or my main question is, How to connect a USB modem on Ubuntu?
[17:00] <TeckniX> DreamDemon sangho I don't believe gFTP or FileZila support server to server transfers, do they?
[17:00] <DreamDemon> TeckniX, server to server like some of the windows based ones?
[17:00] <sangho> maybe not
[17:01] <sangho> why you want transfer something server to server?
[17:01] <DreamDemon> TeckniX, IE: FlashFXP
[17:01] <TeckniX> right
[17:02] <DreamDemon> TeckniX, hmm ... not sure outside of mirroring a site
[17:02] <TeckniX> right'
[17:02] <Damianos_> can somebody tell help me with some display issues? I hooked my karmic box up to my HDTV and I get a "not compatible with this signal" error
[17:02] <Idlehead> hi everyone, i've got a problem installing windows installer 3.1 with WINE
[17:03] <usmanasim_> I want to become an ubuntu developer what are the languages and concepts I should learn
[17:03] <aaron11> Hello
[17:03] <DreamDemon> Damianos_, your lacking in some details like the HDTV type and video card
[17:03] <DreamDemon> usmanasim_, c & c++ would be a good start
[17:03] <Idlehead> no matter what wine version i set with winecfg it either quits with "your version does not need this update" or "your version can't use this upgrade"
[17:04] <usmanasim_> DreamDemon: Should i learn operating system concepts as well
[17:04] <DreamDemon> Damianos_, For your HDTV, I'm gonna guess that you need specific timings since most dont conform to standard monitor configurations
[17:04] <Enigmator> briana you may try cfdisk if installed it will give information about what partition you have and type, then try to mount it manually
[17:04] <DreamDemon> usmanasim_, Wouldnt hurt
[17:04] <aaron11> My wacom bamboo's scroll area only scrolls in one direction for some odd reason. Everything other than this works, I tried Wacomcpl but no clue on what I'm supposed to change. :(
[17:05] <Damianos_> The HDTV is a Sharp Aquos... it has a native VGA port in the back...My OSX laptop works fine with it at 800x600/60hz.....1600x1200/60hz....I get the ubuntu logo and after that it goes blank
[17:05] <Idlehead> Damianos: try setting ubuntu to 50hz
[17:05] <chilipepper> How would I know if Firestarter runs as a system service?
[17:05] <Damianos_> ok
[17:06] <Idlehead> I had a tft flatscreen from dell that would only take 50hz for some reason
[17:06] <DreamDemon> Damianos_, Your not comparing apples to apples ( no pun intended).  MAC's usually have their hardware set up different then a standard PC.  I tried with my deskto and had similiar problems with my Vizio
[17:06] <coz_> Idlehead,  many tft monitors are set at 50hz
[17:07] <Idlehead> coz_ yes, but it also took 60hz from my windows setup and my dreamcast just fine, so it was weird
[17:07] <coz_> Idlehead,   mm thats interesting
[17:07] <coz_> Idlehead,  then forget what I said :)
[17:07] <Idlehead> coz_: that was what i thought back then :D
[17:08] <NotTooSmart> you could try reading the TV manual to find the correct settings :-D
[17:08] <alan_coyote> quit
[17:08] <usmanasim_> could anybody suggest me good c and c++ books
[17:09] <usmanasim_> so that i can learn to program ubuntu
[17:10] <mguy> usmanasim_: You could ask in #c
[17:10] <Idlehead> usmanasim_: why not try python at first?
[17:10] <erUSUL> usmanasim_: better to start with python ( Dive into Python )
[17:11] <hotline_kr> ?
[17:12] <usmanasim_> Idlehead: How do I setup progarmming environment in python
[17:12] <nemos> Hi, I have a problem, can someone help me? I own a Samsung n120 netbook and I dual boot Windows XP with Ubuntu Netbook Remix. When I boot up my computer it loads GRUB which gives me the option to boot either operating system. Now I want to do a complete reset of my system to factory settings (I will reinstall Ubuntu afterwards) and to do so when I boot up I press F4 to enter Samsung Recovery...
[17:12] <nemos> ...Mode. However when I do so instead of entering recovery mode it just goes to GRUB as normal. How do I get around this?
[17:12] <usmanasim_> *for pyhon
[17:12] <nemos> *Samsung N130
[17:13] <Idlehead> usmanasim_, you can use gedit for coding, and a gedit plugin for debugging in the same window. it's not that hard to set up actually
[17:13] <wapi> olaaaaaa
[17:13] <korya> hi all
[17:13] <wapi> k aces
[17:14] <wapi> ola contestarmeeeeeeeee
[17:15] <wapi> ustedes de onde soiiiss
[17:15] <korya> ребят может кто помочь ?
[17:16] <jellow> !ru korya
[17:16] <Pici> !ru | korya
[17:16] <Aranwe> exit
[17:18] <vad0r> does anyone know how to make irssi have a longer buffer
[17:18] <gabi> olaa
[17:18] <TeckniX> thanks for the help peeps
[17:19] <Myrtti> vad0r: /set scrollback_lines
[17:19] <gabi> ??????????'
[17:20] <vad0r> Myrtti: thx
[17:20] <hiexpo> ? how do i use webboard to post to pastebin ?
[17:20] <erUSUL> !es | gabi
[17:21] <furythor> Should I use 9.04 or 9.10 for my home server ?
[17:21] <Enigmator> ubottu how much language do you speak? :P
[17:21] <Myrtti> furythor: neither is an LTS
[17:22] <Myrtti> furythor: so latter would be the best, since it's easier to upgrade to LTS, when it's published in April
[17:22] <gabi> españa
[17:23] <ParkerM> si
[17:23] <gabi> oooo
[17:23] <gabi> gnm
[17:23] <gabi> abla
[17:23] <Myrtti> !es | gabi
[17:23] <gabi> ?
[17:23] <furythor> Myrtti: What I am after here is atleast having ufw tool and some other things, I am just thinking that is this cloud computing must have for 9.10 server
[17:24] <erUSUL> gabi: escribe  "/j #ubuntu-es" y dale a enter
[17:24] <gabi> abla
[17:24] <gabi> le dao
[17:24] <Myrtti> furythor: in any case if you have to choose between those two options, 9.10 is better as a whole. I don't know about ufw, though.
[17:25] <furythor> okay, that will do as opinion for now
[17:25] <gabi> españaaa
[17:25] <gabi> eooo
[17:25] <Myrtti> erUSUL: is he likely to get the clue?
[17:25] <gabi> en españollll
[17:25] <erUSUL> Myrtti: do not think so ...
[17:26] <nastas> !es | gabi
[17:26] <CountDown> How do I completely disable my Thinkpad's touchpad?
[17:27] <IdleOne> !touchpad | CountDown
[17:28] <The_ManU_212> hi
[17:28] <Myrtti> erUSUL: thankies ♥
[17:28] <erUSUL> Myrtti: yw
[17:29] <The_ManU_212> i've seen that in my music collection all mp3 files had the x-bit for execution, i recursively removed it but then i had no permission for subfodlers too, so i added the x bit for directories manually
[17:30] <Rikval> hi !
[17:30] <trism> The_ManU_212: I find: find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} + ; to be useful in that situation, it will only change the files not folders
[17:30] <The_ManU_212> my questions are, is it ok to remove the xbit for mp3 files and add it for directories? is there an option to exclude dirs from permission changes, and can i save files from being deleted but i have the right to add files in fodlers and change existing files? (only deletion is  not possible)?
[17:31] <dasg> new hack tools exploits,vulnerabilities,videos,shellcode www.team3d.3xforum.ro
[17:31] <shay-my> Hello , i would like to know if its possible to play in ubutnu .asf file (audio file) or at least to convert the file to mp3 ?
[17:32] <jellow> dasg: please spam somewhere else.
[17:34] <aluna> oi
[17:34] <aluna> boa tarde
[17:35] <PingFloyd> he's spamming in many channels which he was kicked from
[17:35] <Myrtti> PingFloyd: he's k-lined now
[17:35] <PingFloyd> good
[17:35] <lavin> if i remove sta driver will b43 option reappear in hardware driver menu?
[17:36] <wasutton3> if i use the dd command and the input file is larger than the output, what will happen?
[17:37] <|QED|> guys, since wen java in invite only channel? :O
[17:37] <lavin> how would i blacklist driver on ubuntu distro 9.10
[17:38] <bastid_raZor> |QED|: you need to be a registered member of freenode to join
[17:38] <bastid_raZor> !register | |QED|
[17:38] <The_ManU_212> trism: thx and can u help me with my other 2 questions?
[17:38] <_raven_> how to restore a partimage partition on a drive, that is not exactly as big as the original?
[17:39] <laumonier> someone knows whats new with ubuntu 10.04?
[17:39] <Izinucs> Suddenly I've lost all audio playback.. been working for several releases including 9.10 then it just stopped.  even aplay won't play anything.. Any diagnostic advice?
[17:39] <|QED|> tnx
[17:39] <Squeese> wow, installing a printer wasnt easy, can anyone recomend a label printer other than brother ql500, cause that stuff didnt wanna fly :P
[17:39] <bastid_raZor> laumonier: /join #ubuntu+1  .. they will know more
[17:39] <laumonier> oki thx
[17:40] <lavin> can someone tell me how to blacklist a sta driver please
[17:40] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs alsaplay , make sure nothing is muted by default ...also trying killing pulseaudio
[17:40] <Izinucs> Squeese: Brother has their own drivers.. they are a pain to install but typically work..
[17:40] <Eremite>  tyring to string together several avi files using "cat" and its not working.  It only reencodes the first video of the videos listed and ignores the rest.  Typing: cat v1.avi v2.avi v3.avi > video.avi      any suggestions?
[17:40] <Enigmator> lavin in file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:40] <_raven_> how to restore a partimage backup on a partition, that is not exactly as big as the original?
[17:40] <ailaG2> can i delete the existing windows partition (there's only one) and install ubuntu without burning a new cd? the windows installation appears to use the existing one
[17:40] <Switch10> Izinucs: type alsamixer into the terminal and make sure all of your levels are good. This has happened to me before
[17:40] <korya> люди помогите плиз ктонить ....
[17:40] <lavin> that means nothing to me ,...i very fresh out the box
[17:40] <Squeese> Izinucs: I tried to follow their guide, but I get errors on each step - I feel as if I've messed up my system and reinstall and try again is the only way togo
[17:40] <trism> The_ManU_212: I don't understand what you're asking in the last one
[17:40] <Squeese> ;P
[17:41] <hiexpo> can not find any docs on weboard nor help so justthrow this one out i guess
[17:41] <jellow> !ru | korya
[17:41] <Kinetic|work> izinucs alsamixer not alsaplay , my bad
[17:41] <PingFloyd> _raven_: http://www.partimage.org/Partimage-FAQ#Can_I_restore_it_to_a_smaller_or_bigger_partition_.3F
[17:42] <wasutton3> can i use the dd command to copy one disk to a smaller disk?
[17:42] <Eremite>  tyring to string together several avi files using "cat" and its not working.  It only reencodes the first video of the videos listed and ignores the rest.  Typing: "cat v1.avi v2.avi v3.avi > video.avi"   does not work.    Any suggestions?  Or, how do I burn more than one avi to a DVD
[17:42] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: Switch10 been there done all that.. including killing pulse.. all levels are fine and worked day before yesterday.. no changes other than some updates to the system.. alsaplay is actually aplay from cli .. and no go with that either.
[17:42] <The_ManU_212> trism: 1st: is it ok to remove the x-bit from mp3 files and adding it to directories (if removed) to open them?
[17:42] <_raven_> PingFloyd, tnx - do you also know how to do a restore when it cannot read "block 0" when it changes to file 001?
[17:42] <trism> The_ManU_212: yes, it is actually a good idea, don't want files being executable that shouldn't be
[17:42] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - is it digital or analog ouput?
[17:43] <PingFloyd> _raven_: don't know
[17:43] <The_ManU_212> trism: 2nd: is with it possible with rights-managment, to allow creation of files and editing existing oens, but to delete them is denied?
[17:43] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - i had to tell alsamixer to actually show all digital outputs because it qwas defaulting my hdmi to 3, but only displaying the spdif levels
[17:43] <Kinetic|work> and when i did, thats when i could see hdmi was muted
[17:43] <Izinucs> Squeese: perhaps.. Brother's most recent instructions including their .deb's have been better then in the last 2 years.. I've found you have to read all their instructions and write them down because they have "If you have "ubuntu" then do this first then do that.. "etc..
[17:43] <_raven_> partimage: cannot read block 0 when changes from 000 to 001
[17:43] <The_ManU_212> trism: what could be the reason that they were executable, that they were some time ago on fat32 aprtition?
[17:44] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212: thats the reason
[17:44] <trism> The_ManU_212: you probably copied them from a windows partition, they are mounted by default as 777 (I had to do the same with my music collection)
[17:44] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: analog but there is a digital option.. when I choose that the system reports that it won't work
[17:45] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: at any rate .. I'm using analog lines.
[17:45] <The_ManU_212> trism: yeah the fat was mounted rw
[17:45] <trism> The_ManU_212: as for the other question, I'm really an expert on permissions, although I think if you have permissions to create files in a directory, you have permission to delete them too, one goes with the other
[17:45] <jph_> I am looking for a comprehensive list of IPs to block to include all IPs from outside the USA and all know proxies... my GoogleFu is weak today I guess because all I can find are sites that provide list one country are a time... anyone have any sources for this?
[17:45] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - gotcha..ya sounds like a hardcore issue
[17:45] <The_ManU_212> trism: ok
[17:45] <eotterburg> hola
[17:45] <trism> The_ManU_212: that should be not an expert
[17:46] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: driving me nuts..
[17:46] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - are other sound modules being loaded that shouldnt?
[17:46] <The_ManU_212> trism: what shouldnt be an expert?
[17:46] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: not sure .. how do I check for what's loaded and what shouldn't be?
[17:46] <The_ManU_212> thx Enigmator
[17:46] <alec> is there a way to have rm be an alias to mv to some trash folder, but have another command (like del or something) to be an actual rm (using bash)
[17:46] <trism> The_ManU_212: me
[17:46] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - lsmod |
[17:46] <eotterburg> halllo
[17:47] <ailaG2> when installing ubuntu (the windows installer) it says: installation size: 3/4/5/6gb default is 5 should i keep that? (it's a 20gb hd)
[17:47] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - look for anything *snd_*
[17:47] <eotterburg> hola spanish..!
[17:47] <Kinetic|work> make sure you arent loading extra modules like snd_intell or anything
[17:47] <Eremite> ailaG2, it all depends on how much space you need for ubuntu/windows
[17:47] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: lsmod | simply gives me a > symbol
[17:47] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212: I don't know if ext4 honore this but you could try the immutable bits which you set using chattr +i
[17:47] <Kinetic|work> izinucs sorry typo..drop the pipe
[17:47] <Eremite> ailaG2, if you have a small HD and are just installing linux to play, 5gb should be enough.  You cant install much on 5bg, though.
[17:48] <Kinetic|work> izinucs sorry typo..drop the |
[17:48] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: ah
[17:48] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - tiny keyboard on the eeepc
[17:48] <chilipepper> How can I know if my firefall runs as a system service?
[17:48] <The_ManU_212> Enigmator: what is it for, the immutable bit?
[17:48] <erUSUL> alec: make an rm function that does that.
[17:48] <ailaG2> Eremite: i don't want windows on that machine anymore, if that helps. i want to install ubuntu & boxee, try to connect it to the tv, if the hardware is good enough
[17:49] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  to make a file undeleatable
[17:49] <Eremite> And you're using Wubi?
[17:49] <Will123456> ailaG2- that's exactly what i'm doing right now
[17:49] <chilipepper> I'm using firestarter
[17:49] <ailaG2> Eremite: yeah.. too lazy to burn a cd
[17:49] <hiexpo> i been tring to find an answer on how to use webboard  to paste to pastebin now for 2 hours
[17:49] <alec> erUSUL: an rm function that does the move to ~/.trash, or that does the actual rm?
[17:49] <duffydack> Eremite, try avidemux with the append feature
[17:49] <Will123456> tried using the netbook remix as a pseudo-10-foot-interface (or whatever it's called) but i found it too unstable
[17:49] <ailaG2> and i don't think it can boot from a usb flash drive :)
[17:49] <Eremite> ailaG2, that's not a way to replace windows, it will install ubuntu along side of windows.
[17:49] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: lsmod | grep snd | pastebinit results in http://pastebin.com/f43e5b937
[17:49] <Weems> how do I alt+ to do char input in ubuntu?
[17:49] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  exemple: chattr +i file.mp3
[17:50] <Eremite> You should do a proper install if you can, ailaG2
[17:50] <ailaG2> Eremite: i was hoping it would dual boot and then i'd delete windows from linux.. somehow
[17:50] <erUSUL> alec: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080224175659423
[17:50] <ailaG2> that means i'll have to go all the way to the other room and get a blank cd! *lazy*
[17:50] <Eremite> ailaG2, that's not possible since ubuntu is hosted INSIDE your windows partition that way.  Wubi is not a real linux install, its a pseudo-install.
[17:51] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  test it to see if it work
[17:51] <ailaG2> Eremite: yeah i was wondering about that.. when i saw it wants to install inside an existing partition
[17:51] <Will123456> ailaG2- i've spent about 3 months trying to get ubuntu installed and customised on my TV to no avail. it's always better just to do it as simply and less complicately as possible, otherwise there's always little annoying problems :P
[17:51] <The_ManU_212> Enigmator: ok and what should be the result a file which cant be deleted as user?
[17:52] <ailaG2> Will123456: did you install boxee or use the normal media players?
[17:52] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  a file that not even root can delete
[17:52] <korb_br> cant apt-get 404 Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.1 80], whats wrong ?!
[17:52] <alec> erUSUL: isn't that just a function for mv-ing a file when you rm it? how can I actually rm a file if I want to with that?
[17:53] <Will123456> ailaG2: using boxee, seems to work quite well.
[17:53] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  so to reverse this you would do chattr -i
[17:53] <erUSUL> korb_br: you mirror has problems or is down
[17:53] <korb_br> can u post me a good mirror ?
[17:53] <erUSUL> alec: call rm with full path ? /bin/rm
[17:53] <tyrosine> QUESTION: I'm in a crowded classroom with a single AP.  Normally it's 50k/s, but after all my classmates are youtubing I can only get about 0.5k/s (500b/s).  Is there anything I can do to improve my situation? I'm trying to download powerpoints for class, but they
[17:53] <korb_br> Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main
[17:53] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212:  you need to be root for this
[17:53] <sillyCEO> Booting up ubuntu on my netbook right from the SD card. Would it be faster with a better, more expensive SD card?
[17:53] <tyrosine> they're SSL protected
[17:53] <The_ManU_212> Enigmator: and how to remove this bit?
[17:53] <erUSUL> alec: make an alias that does just that ?
[17:53] <ailaG2> don't you just love the way windows works.. connect to windows, blank password, and i easily shared everything to any cracker who'd guess my password :P  (i'm a mac user)
[17:53] <Will123456> ailaG2: if it's just a low powered computer then i recommend the 32 bit version- you can get a 64 bit version of boxee but it's a beta and wasn't TOTALLY bug free when i tested it
[17:54] <Will123456> ailaG2: (though granted i haven't tried the normal 32 bit version of boxee so it might just be unstable anyway...)
[17:54] <Enigmator> The_ManU_212: exemple: chattr -i file.mp3
[17:54] <ailaG2> Will123456: it's an ibm laptop from 2001-2002 :)) i don't really see a reason to use 64bit even if i could
[17:54] <alec> erUSUL: wouldn't the alias then get confused with the function? or does that not happen?
[17:55] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - yep you have extra modules loaded..whhat chipsset is this?
[17:55] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - this line : snd_hda_codec_nvhdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_in
[17:55] <Will123456> ailaG2: that's good then :P
[17:55] <ailaG2> that's why i prefer linux on it over windows..
[17:55] <Will123456> ailaG2: boxee worked a lot better than xbmc though, which needs a decent amount of extra configuration to get youtube plugins and such working (and even then i couldn't get it to work, the UI was flakey)
[17:55] <Will123456> boxee just worked out of the box
[17:55] <Will123456> er :P
[17:55] <sillyCEO> I have a bootable ubuntu on SD card, configured exactly the way I like it. Whats the easiest way to clone it to fresh SD?
[17:55] <alec> like if i did alias del='rm' or something, it will know that I mean the actual rm command, and not the function?
[17:55] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: gforce 8200 on an XFX board
[17:55] <erUSUL> alec: you can not make the alias name "rm" you will have to find another name
[17:56] <Kinetic|work> izinucs looks like  realtek and intel are both loaded... more than one soundcard? try rmmod to remove them and just load the one you want to work...to make sure its a conflict and not something else
[17:56] <erUSUL> alec: alias del='/bin/rm'
[17:56] <ailaG2> Will123456: thanks, i didn't really do a decent research on that, thought i'd try the first name i know and see if that works. good to know it's the best choice
[17:56] <Boohbah> alias rf='rm -rf'
[17:56] <ailaG2> there's actually a boxee box now
[17:56] <BuGo_laptop> hi.
[17:56] <ailaG2> .. that works out of the box too
[17:56] <Boohbah> ailaG2: what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[17:56] <alec> erUSUL: ah, ok, thx
[17:57] <BuGo_laptop> i am installing ubuntu on computer with 4gb ram. how much swap do i need to allocate?
[17:57] <Boohbah> BuGo_laptop: tradition would dictate 8GB
[17:57] <erUSUL> !danger | Boohbah
[17:57] <BuGo_laptop> ok...
[17:57] <Boohbah> erUSUL: danger what?
[17:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> BuGo_laptop, to be honest, I wouldn't use any, but by the tradition, should be 1,5xRAM , 6 Then
[17:57] <Boohbah> erUSUL: don't alias rm -rf to rf ?
[17:57] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: hummmm... I wonder how that happened.. let me check the board specs and see which one it should be..
[17:57] <Boohbah> erUSUL: why not?
[17:57] <erUSUL> Boohbah: sorry; read it wrong
[17:58] <BuGo_laptop> ok 6 it is
[17:58] <erUSUL> Boohbah: easy trigger ;)
[17:58] <Boohbah> i also like     alias ll='ls -al'
[17:58] <Kinetic|work> izinucs - ubuntu will try to load modules it thinks are required.. not always 100% reliable
[17:58] <ailaG2> Boohbah: it's the reason i'm installing linux..
[17:58] <erUSUL> Boohbah: that's come alrady aliased in debian/ubuntu .bashrc
[17:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> i like alias backup='long list of comands', cant paste it here
[17:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> to big =)
[17:59] <Will123456> is there any reason why putting the swap partition at the front of the disk would be a bad idea?
[17:59] <Will123456> why does the ubuntu installer put it on the end by default?
[18:00] <deco> is there a ubuntu karmic i685 img file ?
[18:00] <Will123456> i'm about to put the swap partition at the start (before the / and /home partitions) and i'm wondering if that would affect stability at all
[18:00] <iceroot> deco: i386 is what you want
[18:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> Will123456, if your system uses to much swap, then it would make slower because of the readings at swap space
[18:00] <SwedeMike> Will123456: put it in the middle if you can.
[18:00] <sdwrage> Morning everyone
[18:00] <deco> iceroot: ah yeah , is tere an img file of it ? for usb install
[18:00] <iceroot> !usb | deco
[18:01] <deco> iceroot: thanks
[18:01] <Will123456> SwedeMike: because that's the most average distance between the places the disk might be reading from elsewhere?
[18:01] <llutz> Will123456: place it wherever you want. swap always is slow, so hdd-seektimes etc. won't really slow it down more
[18:01] <AndreMorro[BR]> Guys, I'm using a Lenovo C3000 that comes with a / and ? in a diferrent position of the keyboard, how can I ajdust it?
[18:02] <Will123456> llutz: yeah, i wasn't sure about that. i know that the front/inside of the disk is something like twice as fast as the outside but twice as fast as "thousands of times as slow as RAM" probably isn't much better at all
[18:02] <Slart> AndreMorro[BR]: take a look at xmodmap
[18:02] <SwedeMike> Will123456: yes.
[18:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> Slart, i tried but didn't worked well, or maybe I don't know how to use it
[18:02] <Slart> AndreMorro[BR]: it can do lots of things.. but it's not very trial-and-error friendly..
[18:03] <Slart> AndreMorro[BR]: hmm.. well.. that's the only way I know of to switch keys around like you want to do..
[18:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> Slart, ty, I'll try again
[18:04] <Sp00n> I'm in desperate need of a little assistance if anyone is feeling helpful? Relating to missing eth
[18:04] <Sp00n> <-- n00b
[18:04] <Sp00n> ish
[18:04] <CShadowRun> !ask | Sp00n
[18:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, ifconfig shows nothing?
[18:05] <Sp00n> only loopback
[18:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, ifconfig eth0 up
[18:05] <Sp00n> I run a vmware appliance which sits on ubuntu 4.2 (according to cat/proc/version), updated vmware tools last night, this morning eth0 is missing
[18:05] <pat|nG> why can't i see my nmap? i install it and i don't can see the GUI?
[18:05] <Sp00n> and i mean missing
[18:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, nmap doesn't have gui
[18:05] <Sp00n> lspci shows the AMD adapter
[18:05] <Sp00n> but its not binding it to eth0
[18:05] <Confused> How come Ubuntu "hangs" when I'm not pressing anything or moving the mouse? It doesn't really crash - it's just that nothing moves or happens until I do something to it.
[18:05] <erUSUL> !info zenmap | AndreMorro[BR] pat|nG
[18:06] <Slart> pat|nG: the gui is called zenmap.. try starting it from a terminal
[18:06] <erUSUL> pat|nG: install zenmap
[18:06] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: looks like sound is Realtek ALC 888 codec 8 channel HD audio..
[18:06] <AndreMorro[BR]> erUSUL, nmap its nmap, zenmap its a front-end,
[18:06] <AndreMorro[BR]> erUSUL, right??
[18:06] <erUSUL> pat|nG: it will appear in Aplications>internet
[18:06] <Sp00n> ifup eth0 = Device not found
[18:06] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, is it running on VMware??
[18:07] <Sp00n> yes
[18:07] <macman_>  testing
[18:07] <Sp00n> esxi
[18:07] <erUSUL> AndreMorro[BR]: yes; but zenmap is the _oficial_ nmap frontend
[18:07] <Slart> pat|nG: sorry.. you need to install zenmap as well.. it's not included in the nmap package
[18:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> Check your VM config to see if the network is configured right
[18:07] <pat|nG> i see
[18:07] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: how do I  remove the offending driver?
[18:07] <pat|nG> Slart: how can i do it?
[18:07] <pat|nG> hehe
[18:07] <Sp00n> the vm config hasnt changed, the only thing that I did was update vmware tools from the esxi console
[18:07] <AndreMorro[BR]> erUSUL, Ok, but nmap stand alone has no front-end, thats why I wrote that theres no gui
[18:07] <Slart> pat|nG: sudo apt-get install zenmap   should do it
[18:07] <Sp00n> I've also added another vm device, rebooted but it doesnt pick that up either
[18:08] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, don't know what to do... never used VMware
[18:08] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs rmmod
[18:08] <timbojimbo> my screen saver is acting buggy. Whenever I put my password in to get to my desktop the screen saver reappears frozen. I can alt-tab to different open programs but none show up. My only option has been to restart my computer every time. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and gnome
[18:08] <Sp00n> treat it like a real machine, what would you do if the eth0 dissapeared?
[18:08] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs rmmod *nameofmodule
[18:09] <Sp00n> what would I do?
[18:09] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: would it be "sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel" ??
[18:09] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs correct
[18:09] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: with sudo?
[18:09] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs will more than likely have to use sudo
[18:09] <erUSUL> Izinucs: "sudo modprobe -r modulename" is a better idea
[18:09] <Craig`> hey where can I find the dictionary? what's it's directory
[18:09] <Izinucs> k
[18:09] <pat|nG> Slart: invalid operation
[18:09] <Kinetic|work> Izinucs ^^what erSUL said
[18:10] <Slart> pat|nG: typo?
[18:10] <pat|nG> hehe
[18:10] <pat|nG> sori my fault
[18:10] <pat|nG> hehe
[18:10] <treble54> I am trying to install the java plugin in firefox; currently I have made the symbolic link for the java plugin in the plugins folder of the firefox directory, but whenever I open firefox, the Java plugin is not listed in about:plugins, anyone have any ideas ?
[18:10] <Confused> How come Ubuntu "hangs" when I'm not pressing anything or moving the mouse? It doesn't really crash - it's just that nothing moves or happens until I do something to it.
[18:11] <darkstar999> Is it possible to combine a command so I can 'ps' or 'pidof' a process and kill it at the same time?
[18:11] <Craig`> /usr/share/dict
[18:11] <Izinucs> Kinetic|work: says the module is in use.. killall pulseaudio?
[18:11] <Slart> darkstar999: sure.. you could do a little bash magic.. not sure it will be worth it though
[18:12] <darkstar999> Slart: what about pkill?
[18:12] <Slart> darkstar999: there's also commands like xkill, pkill that might be useful
[18:12] <pat|nG> is there any mp3player available?
[18:12] <Izinucs> Thanks erUSUL.. module is in use.. how do I disable it? or "un-use" it?
[18:12] <Diverdude> Is it possible to connect to an sshfs (requiring password) automatically at startup? e.g. using /etc/fstab ?
[18:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> Diverdude, with password? not that I know of
[18:12] <AndreMorro[BR]> Diverdude, using KEYS without passphrase yeah
[18:12] <erUSUL> Izinucs: find the processes that use the devices it exports ? if it is the sound module you probably have to kill pulseaudio first
[18:13] <darkstar999> Slart: pkill works, thanks
[18:13] <Slart> darkstar999: you're welcome
[18:13] <Izinucs> erUSUL: just tried "killall pulseaudio" and had the same response
[18:14] <pat|nG> is there any mp3player available?
[18:14] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, theres lots of them... pick one
[18:14] <erUSUL> !player | pat|nG
[18:14] <Diverdude> AndreMorro[BR], what do you mean by "using KEYS without passphrase" ?
[18:14] <AndreMorro[BR]> Diverdude, RSA keys
[18:14] <rd1381> is there anyway to have a account that cant install apps unless i use a diferent pass from that account password?
[18:14] <Diverdude> AndreMorro[BR], ohh yeah ok...how do i make an RSA key?
[18:14] <erUSUL> Izinucs: chack « sudo lsof /dev/snd/* »
[18:14] <sillyCEO> Booting up ubuntu on my netbook right from the SD card. Would it be faster with a better, more expensive SD card?
[18:14] <AndreMorro[BR]> Diverdude, great question, I have a small tuto but in Portuguese...
[18:15] <AndreMorro[BR]> Diverdude, let me try finding one in English
[18:15] <Diverdude> AndreMorro[BR], arhh my portuguese is unfortunatly not so good :) I wish i could speak it however
[18:15] <Izinucs> erUSUL: that shows me ... 4 items.. knotify4, kmix and 2 pulseaudio's
[18:15] <Sp00n> really need some help with linux + esxi, missing eth0!
[18:15] <Slart> sillyCEO: doesn't SD cards come in different speeds? just make sure the adapter can handle the speed of your card
[18:15] <erUSUL> Izinucs: ok; kill them all
[18:16] <erUSUL> Izinucs: probaly you are better doing this in recovery mode or without gui if possible
[18:16] <Slart> rd1381: not really... at least not in a simple way
[18:16] <sillyCEO> Slart: They 'say' they are different speeds - just not sure if it would matter much.
[18:16] <Slart> rd1381: what are you trying to do?
[18:16] <Izinucs> erUSUL: probably.. knotify just doesn't want to go away..
[18:17] <erUSUL> Izinucs: not sure what you are trying to do anyway ...
[18:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, try ifconfig eth1, eth2, eth3...
[18:17] <pat|nG> is it Audacious? i tried but i gives me error
[18:17] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, till you got one
[18:17] <Sp00n> "ignoring unknown interface eth1 > 10"
[18:17] <rd1381> Slart: like a limited account in windows that in windows when u run a app that need admin rights it ask for ADMIN pass not limited account pass
[18:17] <Slart> sillyCEO: I'm not really sure how much a difference it will make.. haven't tried running ubuntu from SD/cf cards
[18:18] <treble54> in attempts to get the java plugin installed, and I've successfully made a symbolic link to the java plugin installed on my machine but it is still not showing up in about:plugins, anyone have any ideas ?
[18:18] <Sp00n> AndreMorro[BR] "ignoring unknown interface eth1 > 10"
[18:18] <sillyCEO> Slart: OK thanks- will ask again later on.
[18:18] <pat|nG> is it Audacious? i tried but i gives me error
[18:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, what about ethe²
[18:18] <erUSUL> treble54: why not jus « sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin » ?
[18:18] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, try audacious2
[18:18] <Sp00n> funny
[18:18] <Slart> rd1381: not that I know of.. you could of course create another account with permission to install stuff and use sudo -u ... or even setup some kind of aliasing so it does the sudo -u thing automagically
[18:18] <Izinucs> erUSUL: my sound suddenly went out.. been working fine for the last year on different releases including 9.10.  I did a search on the drivers (http://pastebin.com/f43e5b937) and Kinetic|work was kind enough to point out 2 drivers loaded.. one realtec and one intel.. my system is an XFX 8200 board with realtec
[18:19] <erUSUL> Izinucs: so why you want to unload the sound drivers ?
[18:19] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, got it?
[18:19] <Izinucs> erUSUL: just the offending one that doesn't apply to my system.. am I wrong in my approach?
[18:20] <CARMENCERES> OLA
[18:20] <vexue> can anyone help me?
[18:20] <Sp00n> AndreMorro[BR] no, nothing comes up
[18:20] <scooter89> I have a macbook2,1 running Karmic. How do I tweak/speed up my wireless reconnect after I've closed and opened my laptop?
[18:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> CARMENCERES, Hi
[18:20] <CARMENCERES> HEKKI
[18:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, funny thing... if you remove the guest additions will it help?
[18:20] <coolcat> hi, when I access a video on Youtube I get a blank box, no place to click , nothing. Yesterday it was plays videos normally, what could have happened?
[18:20] <rd1381> Slart:when i create a limited account in ubuntu and login to that ,then run for example synaptec,it askes for password but no password works their ,not admin pass and not limited pass. is'nt that a bug?
[18:20] <CARMENCERES> HELLO ANYBODY THERE
[18:20] <AndreMorro[BR]> CARMENCERES, Houston, we're here
[18:21] <CARMENCERES> HELLO IḾ FROM SPAIN
[18:21] <Sp00n> AndreMorro[BR] I tried unfortunately, uninstalled vmware tools completely and rebooted but its not much help
[18:21] <Sp00n> I just dont get why it shows in lspci
[18:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> rd1381, no, not really, to have Administrations privilege user must be part of admin group
[18:21] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, pastebin your lspci
[18:21] <Slart> rd1381: hmm.. haven't tried that.. I would say that it's a bug.. it should give you some kind of error.. (it always asks for your login password)
[18:22] <kanzie> I activated Xinerama in nvidia-settings and now the screen is black. How can I access the shell to restore the backup?
[18:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, Ctrl Atl F1
[18:22] <kanzie> I've tried ctrl-alt-f324
[18:22] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: and 1
[18:22] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, in grub, start like "Recovery mode"
[18:22] <Sp00n> AndreMorro[BR] I cant, the host doesnt have any network access, I can give you the line which shows the ethernet adapter if you would like?
[18:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, go ahead
[18:23] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: ok
[18:23] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: thanks
[18:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, yw
[18:23] <Izinucs> erUSUL: ? .. am I on the right path?
[18:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> Sp00n, in PVT
[18:23] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: Do you perhaps know how I can solve dual-screen to get my TV working like expected?
[18:23] <jph_> I just copied a 45000 line allow list in to a rough draft of a new .htaccess file... my goal is to deny all that are not US IPs... I didn't think the allow list would be that long... am I right to think that a .htaccess file that long will cause me problems?
[18:23] <erUSUL> Izinucs: hda intel is used in all modern mobos
[18:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, it depends on the problem
[18:23] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, what exaclty you're trying to do?
[18:24] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: Well, I might be spoiled being an Apple-owner. But I want my Ubuntu-box to replace the laptop as media-center. I want my TV connected as my main display for movies.
[18:24] <Izinucs> erUSUL: ok.. so I should leave it.. this issue just cropped up in the last 2 days.. been working fine up until then.. have you got another path of diagnosis?
[18:24] <kanzie> AndreMorro[BR]: I tried dualscreen but then XBMC streched over both screen (and since the resolution is different it was crap.
[18:25] <rd1381> Slart: thats what i mean. i mean i want to have 2 user that both have passwords but one is able to install and other not.i know i have to add one to sudoers but when i do that and log in in ubuntu with limited account i have noway to do admin stuff(it asks for password but accept neither password as correct).i thought ubuntu disabled root for seciurity reasons. what security is that that i have a user that can install apps and do other admin stuff with his own
[18:25] <rd1381> login pass ,or have to logout and login in a admin user to to do admin stuff??
[18:25] <CARMENCERES> hello
[18:25] <erUSUL> Izinucs: what happened in the last two days that could cause the issue ?
[18:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> kanzie, at the nvidia-settings theres should be a thing to make the Main Display
[18:25] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[18:25] <CARMENCERES> im speak spanish
[18:25] <Izinucs> erUSUL: an update probably
[18:25] <erUSUL> Izinucs: kernel ?
[18:25] <OerHeks> netsplit
[18:25] <erUSUL> !es | CARMENCERES
[18:25] <AndreMorro[BR]> Holy
[18:25] <CARMENCERES> we speaks spanish?
[18:26] <erUSUL> CARMENCERES: not here; join #ubuntu-es
[18:26] <jph_> I just copied a 45000 line allow list in to a rough draft of a new .htaccess file... my goal is to deny all that are not US IPs... I didn't think the allow list would be that long... am I right to think that a .htaccess file that long will cause me problems?
[18:26] <Izinucs> erUSUL: no.. there was a kernel upgrade a week or so ago.. but I didn't notice a change after that .. at least that I can remember.
[18:26] <erUSUL> CARMENCERES: type "/join #ubuntu-es" without the "" and hit enter
[18:26] <CARMENCERES> we is english?
[18:26] <Slart> rd1381: sorry.. I think there was a netsplit there..
[18:26] <CARMENCERES> me not very good speak inglish
[18:27] <coolcat> CARMENCERES, vá para o canal #ubuntu-es para ajuda em espanhol
[18:27] <erUSUL> Izinucs: so what was updated ? do you remember ?
[18:27] <Slart> rd1381: I'm not sure if having a separate password gives you any extra security.. but you can always run stuff like gksudo -u adminuser synaptic   to run synaptic as the adminuser instead of limiteduser
[18:27] <rd1381> Slart: i know that
[18:28] <rd1381> Slart: but it doesnt work on gui clicks
[18:28] <Izinucs> erUSUL: not specifically.. I updated another machine today (a different one) and there were some new pulseaudio libraries.. however it was a 8.04 machine not a 9.10 machine like the one I'm trying to fix..
[18:28] <rd1381> Slart: you know.. clicking and askiing for admin pass( like windows would)
[18:28] <jph_> CARMENCERES mis espanol es muy mal pero is usd ponga /join #ubuntu-es esta mas personas hablen espanol
[18:29] <jph_> is
[18:29] <erUSUL> Izinucs: really dunno; i take that you are in kubuntu seeing kmix there; and i take you already checked all channels in the mixer for mute or low volume ...
[18:29] <Slart> rd1381: doesn't work on gui clicks? I'm not sure I understand.. you mean it doesn't do it by itself when it notices that what the user is trying to do requires admin privileges?
[18:29] <Izinucs> erUSUL: yep.. (been around a while.. you might know me as Scunizi :)  )..
[18:30] <gibson> hi
[18:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> awsome
[18:30] <irene__> Hi, all. The hard drive of my laptop is dying, so i'm trying to mount its encrypted data on another ubuntu laptop. But user ids are different. Okay, i'm not very clear, but here's my question: can I create 2 entries in /etc/passwd having different usernames but the same uid/gid ?
[18:30] <pat|nG> is it possible i can copy files from a network having windows xp os?
[18:31] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, linux copy from windows or windows copy from linux?
[18:31] <rd1381> Slart: no imean many of ubuntu admin apps are icons that u click and have parameteres and stuff, and clicking on them wont work in limited account because it asks for password but neither admin passs or limited pass works
[18:31] <pat|nG> linux copy from windows
[18:31] <Izinucs> erUSUL: actually kpackagekit has a nice History feature..
[18:31] <erUSUL> Izinucs: ^.^ ok; i'm not familiar with pa admin utilities in kde... maybe it is there where the problem lies (is a mess volume contrlas in alsa and anothe bunch in pa but anyway)
[18:32] <erUSUL> Izinucs: checked the pulseaudio volume levels etc...
[18:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, sure, if you have ubuntu you can clic in Places -> network
[18:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG,  and find you machine there
[18:32] <Slart> rd1381: ah.. yes, that's true.. you'll have to start them manually from a terminal, using gksudo
[18:32] <Izinucs> erUSUL: are the pulseaudio levels controlled seperately from kmix (alsamixer)?
[18:32] <timbojimbo> my screen saver is acting buggy. Whenever I put my password in to get to my desktop the screen saver reappears frozen. I can alt-tab to different open programs but none show up. My only option has been to restart my computer every time. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and gnome
[18:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> timbojimbo, do you have desktop effects on? try disabling it
[18:33] <creative_> Hello. Are there no more device paths for usb devices(eg photo camera) in 9.10?
[18:33] <erUSUL> Izinucs: there are; do you have pavucontrol installed ?
[18:33] <Izinucs> erUSUL: nope
[18:33] <rd1381> Slart: yeah that would work but that a wordaround is'nt it? imean clicking and asking for password doesnt work and should be fixed so its a bug
[18:34] <timbojimbo> AndreMorro[BR], it is set to none
[18:34] <creative_> How can I access a USB device raw in 9.10? Theres no more /dev/sdXX
[18:34] <erUSUL> Izinucs: can you install it to check ?
[18:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> timbojimbo, have any 3D boards like Nvidia or Ati?
[18:34] <coolcat> creative_, No mre /dev/sdxx?
[18:34] <Izinucs> erUSUL: sure.. it'll pull in a bunch of gtk libraries.. but it's worth a shot
[18:34] <Enigmator> Izinucs if you have problem with sound muted, you may check if you have alsa stuff installed
[18:34] <creative_> coolcat: Not for USB devices.
[18:34] <timbojimbo> AndreMorro[BR], Yeah I have nvidia
[18:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> timbojimbo, the nvidia drivers are properly installed?
[18:35] <creative_> coolcat: Its there for my primary HD. But not for USB.
[18:35] <adalal1> heya.. im using dhcpd... is there a way to find the current leases?
[18:35] <Slart> rd1381: yes, it's a work around, indeed.   I would say that showing a password dialog where the current user password doesn't work would count as a bug.. if the user doesn't have the right permissions to run the app it should just give some kind of error, if you ask me. I would say its a bug, yes
[18:35] <sillyCEO> I have a bootable ubuntu on SD card, configured exactly the way I like it. Whats the easiest way to clone it to fresh SD?
[18:35] <pat|nG> is it possible i can copy files from a network having windows xp os?
[18:35] <timbojimbo> AndreMorro[BR], Yup
[18:35] <creative_> coolcat: But the folder opens and displays content when inserted.
[18:35] <erUSUL> !grub2
[18:35] <creative_> coolcat: But theres nothing in mtab ;(
[18:35] <jellow> sillyCEO: have a look at dd
[18:35] <creative_> coolcat: Pretty strange
[18:35] <AndreMorro[BR]> timbojimbo, its only with passwords or any kinda screensaver??
[18:35] <Izinucs> erUSUL: I'll be right back.. gotta log out and back in again
[18:36] <rd1381> Slart: anyway thanks for replys. you think i should fill arequest or but report or something in ubuntu launchpad?
[18:36] <coolcat> creative_, so you do not have the file /dev/sdb1 for example?
[18:36]  * adalal1 needs help
[18:36] <creative_> coolcat: Nope.
[18:36] <sillyCEO> jellow: I did see taht- couldn't believe it would be as easy as one command in terminal. Have you tried it?
[18:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ask | adalal1
[18:36] <creative_> coolcat: If I look at the path it tells me: gphoto2://[usb:002,004]/
[18:36] <Slart> rd1381: yes.. either report it as a bug or add something to the.. what's it called.. brainstorm?
[18:36] <jellow> sillyCEO: no
[18:36] <creative_> coolcat: But I need to access the FS raw
[18:37] <rd1381> Slart:thanks
[18:37] <creative_> coolcat: For running testdisk on it. Lost photos on a digicam.
[18:37] <Slart> rd1381: I would be happy to add a "me too" if you report it.. just give me the url
[18:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, its a raw harddrive or pendrive? is that right?
[18:37] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: Its a digital camera
[18:37] <sillyCEO> jellow - OK I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the tip.
[18:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, it should recoganize as a normal sdXX
[18:37] <timbojimbo> AndreMorro[BR], I have it set to Random and it is usually the dremples and a few others that do it
[18:38] <jellow> sillyCEO: Little warning be very careful with it make backups
[18:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> timbojimbo, try not using the screensavers that do that
[18:38] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: Theres nothing in dmesg about a /dev/sdXX
[18:38] <erUSUL> creative_: you will have to find a way to access it as usb storage or photorec wont work
[18:38] <Izinucs> erUSUL: suddenly and without explanation audio is working again.. not sure how.. but it is.. didn't do that after my last reboot trying to fix this..
[18:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, nothing saying new device pluged and stuff like that??
[18:38] <sillyCEO> jellow: thanks
[18:38] <creative_> erUSUL: Exactly.
[18:38] <erUSUL> Izinucs: magic :)
[18:38] <jellow> Izinucs: same thing happened to me =/
[18:38] <coolcat> creative_, I do not know why you don't have them, but you can create a device, but you would have to know some information about fs type etc  .. i cannot help ypu with this
[18:38] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: It does. But I think somehow they changed usb device handling in 9.10
[18:39] <Izinucs> erUSUL: the the support industry we refer to that as FM.. if you get my drift :)
[18:39] <creative_> coolcat: okay, thx anyway
[18:39] <sillyCEO> New problem: When I switch off my WIFI router, ubuntu throws up a dialog ("Authentication require by wireless network"). I'm leaving this unsupervised, so I want NO dialog... just want it to keep trying to hop back on. Any ideas?
[18:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, funny thing... i work with a few cameras here... they are all set to work as "usb storage device" and works smooth
[18:39] <avi_> hey, can anyone field a question about Ubuntu on a PowerBook?
[18:39] <erUSUL> creative_: maybe your camera has not that option and you have to plug the camera card  directly to the pc (via a card reader of course )
[18:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ask | avelldiroll
[18:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ask | avi_
[18:39] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: 9.10 ? Because the path that it shows in nautilus is: gphoto2://[usb:002,004]/
[18:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> avelldiroll, sorry
[18:40] <erUSUL> Izinucs: XD
[18:40] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, yeah, 9.10... what your dmesg says?
[18:40] <creative_> erUSUL: Not that I now.
[18:40] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, PVT or pastebin.com
[18:40] <avi_> Is there a reason Ubuntu gives me max 45 minutes to an hour on my powerbook? (With a newish battery)?
[18:40] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: Its only 2 relevant lines... So I paste it here
[18:41] <creative_> [79900.670088] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[18:41] <creative_> [79900.824634] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[18:41] <avi_> Because i get more than twice that with OSX
[18:41] <ode_to_joy> Hi gang, I'm trying to get wifi master mode working on my intel 5300 chip, with karmic.  But no joy.. "iwconfig wlan0 mode master" gives "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument".  Anyone know if this chip works as an AP?
[18:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, awsome...
[18:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, afraid i cant help you
[18:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, let say that OSX is optimized for your hardware...
[18:41] <creative_> AndreMorro[BR]: Okay. Too bad. I guess they changed the whole USB handling for digital cameras in 9.10
[18:42] <erUSUL> creative_: as i said if your camera can nt be configured to be usb storage you will have tom plug the card directly to the computer via a card reader
[18:42] <avi_> Of course, but why should Ubuntu fail so much with power management?
[18:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> creative_, I agree wirh erUSUL
[18:42] <erUSUL> creative_: that depends on the camera not on the version of ubuntu
[18:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, maybe you need to do some fine-tunning
[18:42] <avi_> thats what I assumed.
[18:42] <creative_> erUSUL: Ah okay.
[18:42] <avi_> any idea on where to start?
[18:42] <avi_> im a Ubuntu noob.
[18:42] <Tijuanense> Hi I am a troll
[18:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, disabling services you don't need...
[18:42] <creative_> erUSUL: I just wondered because it used to have /dev/sdXX on 9.04
[18:43] <Rikval> jkjakajkaj a a troll
[18:43] <Rikval> jakjakajkajkajka
[18:43] <creative_> erUSUL: Thanks a lot. Will try to remove the card
[18:43] <Rikval> no sabes hablar español
[18:43] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, its a PPC processor right?
[18:43] <ode_to_joy> Does anyone recommend a way to set up a wifi link as an AP?
[18:43] <avi_> Oh, I was thinking more like specifying to ubuntu what my setup is
[18:43] <avi_> yeah, 1.5GHz G4
[18:43] <erUSUL> creative_: is like some mp3 players (specially ipod) they have propietary protocols (or mdp) to load files on them. so you need itunes or crap like that
[18:44] <creative_> erUSUL: Okay. I see
[18:44] <erUSUL> creative_: I just wondered because it used to have /dev/sdXX on 9.04 <<< if that's true then maybe is a config option on the camera
[18:44] <IateJesus> avi_, a quick googling says that disabling the therm module in etc modules will help
[18:44] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, hm... try powertop programa, its a nice way to start
[18:44] <creative_> erUSUL: Hm. Maybe... Trying to get a device path now when just inserting card
[18:44] <erUSUL> creative_: my phone can act as a usb storage or as a modem. is a config in the phone (appears when i plug it )
[18:44] <creative_> erUSUL: Yep, works ;)
[18:44] <coolcat> creative_, I do not know why you don't have them, but you can create a device, but you would have to know some information about fs type etc  .. i cannot help ypu with this
[18:44] <avi_> Thanks, lateJesus, I'll check that out.
[18:45] <coolcat> hi, when I access a video on Youtube I get a blank box, no place to click , nothing. Yesterday it was plays videos normally, what could have happened?
[18:45] <AndreMorro[BR]> coolcat, try updating your system (sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade)
[18:46] <hcook> howdy
[18:46] <hiexpo> coolcat: - check your firefor pluggins proballyone disabled is all
[18:48] <pat|nG> how can i put a passwd on my terminal?
[18:48] <hiexpo> just type it
[18:48] <hiexpo> you wont see it
[18:48] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, you want to be prompt a password before open terminal??
[18:48] <steffan> !details | pat|nG
[18:48] <pat|nG> like if i'll run terminal it will ask for a passwd first before it can be access
[18:49] <iceroot> pat|nG: not possible
[18:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, can't do it
[18:49] <pat|nG> i see
[18:49] <iceroot> pat|nG: and not necessary
[18:49] <steffan> pat|nG: aslong as you're not running as root then there won't be a problem, as most damage as a regular user can be done without terminal anyhow
[18:49] <hiexpo> yes use your login password
[18:49] <steffan> it's unnecasary
[18:50] <Enigmator> pat|nG: but you could lock  with vlock
[18:50] <SuckingGod> quit
[18:50] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, well, You can edit your menu, instead of gnome-terminal, you can put gksu gnome-terminal, so it will ask your passoword before opening the gnome-terminal
[18:50] <pat|nG> how can i access to a network with windows xp? like i'm using ubuntu and want to access a winxp computer?
[18:50] <AndreMorro[BR]> its a silly way but may work
[18:50] <hiexpo> oh you wont to lock terminal why
[18:50] <iceroot> !samba | pat|nG
[18:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> iceroot, he wants to make the reverse thing...
[18:51] <iceroot> AndreMorro[BR]: that is smbclient
[18:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> iceroot, the GUI way...
[18:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> I presume...
[18:51] <erUSUL> pat|nG: Places>Network>windows Network
[18:51] <iceroot> AndreMorro[BR]: its smbclieint in the background
[18:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> iceroot, right!
[18:52] <hiexpo> iceroot: - i am just cheecking if my messanger is working can u reply back thanks
[18:52] <pat|nG> yes but it keeps asking for a username and passwd
[18:52] <iceroot> hiexpo: test
[18:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, proabably because you windows is sharing with password
[18:52] <hiexpo> kool thanks
[18:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> pat|nG, OR there nathing shared, when nothing is shared in windows he'll prompt for password
[18:52] <pat|nG> but i didn't put a passwd from my winxp computer
[18:53] <Marat> join #wiki-en
[18:54] <Daniel_Cardenas> does anyone know an alternative to Microsoft Office Document Imaging?
[18:54] <init2winit77> Need help setting my wifi bitrate to 54M.  Keep getting invalid command message
[18:55] <erUSUL> Daniel_Cardenas: dunno what does that do ?
[18:55] <erUSUL> init2winit77: sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[18:55] <Daniel_Cardenas> hello everyone
[18:55] <Michalxo> hello! I am having strange bug with fonts in FIrefox 3.6 and VLC. Is anyone able to help me? screenshots here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8722765#post8722765
[18:55] <Daniel_Cardenas> it convert scanned TIF format image to text
[18:56] <init2winit77> erusul: Yes, I have done that and it gives me a invalid argument message
[18:57] <grendal_prime> is there nautilus "ubuntu-one" integration for hardy?
[18:57] <draq3> hey man
[18:57] <draq3> format c:
[18:58] <pat|nG> AndreMorro[BR]: i got it! thanx
[18:58] <Michalxo> Daniel_Cardenas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR ?
[18:59] <Daniel_Cardenas> hmm
[18:59] <Daniel_Cardenas> interesting
[18:59] <Michalxo> I am having strange bug with fonts in FIrefox 3.6 and VLC. Is anyone able to help me? screenshots here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8722765#post8722765
[18:59] <spazm_> hi I am trying to use the "sudo do-release-upgrade" on my hardy server release but it says that I already have the most recent version of the server... how do I upgrade to 9.10?
[19:00] <AndreMorro[BR]> Michalxo, I was just reading it
[19:00] <Michalxo> AndreMorro[BR] thank you
[19:00] <avi_> Can anyone assist me in disabling the thermal module?
[19:00] <blakkheim> spazm_: you can't upgrade to 910 from 804
[19:00] <okwelee> hi everybody
[19:00] <blakkheim> spazm_: er wait misread that, nvm
[19:00] <okwelee> i'm new on ubuntu
[19:00] <Daniel_Cardenas> well thanks
[19:00] <Daniel_Cardenas> that page work
[19:00] <Daniel_Cardenas> bye
[19:00] <erUSUL> init2winit77: sudo iwlist wlan0 bitrate
[19:00] <Michalxo> Daniel_Cardenas welcome ;-) google is our friend ;-)
[19:01] <kab> Hello, I have a PC with 4GB in Ram, but my Karmic Koala only see 3GB, how can I enable this, I am using Karmic Koala in 64 bits
[19:01] <erUSUL> !blacklist | avi_
[19:01] <Daniel_Cardenas> lol
[19:01] <spazm_> blakkheim: oh I can't? do I have to take it step by step? how do go from 804 to 810 then?
[19:01] <erUSUL> kab: if it is 64 bits it have to see the whole 4 GiB
[19:01] <erUSUL> kab: what does "uname -m" says ?
[19:01] <avi_> I'm not entirelt sure what the module is called.
[19:01] <avi_> entirely*
[19:02] <blakkheim> spazm_: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[19:02] <kab> erUSUL, $ uname -m
[19:02] <kab> x86_64
[19:02] <geirha> spazm_: If you can wait till april, you can go directly from 8.04 to 10.04
[19:02] <spazm_> blakkheim: yes I've done that...
[19:02] <erUSUL> kab: post the dmesg of your machine in a pastebin
[19:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> Michalxo, never saw that
[19:02] <spazm_> geirha: oh.. that would actually be nice :)
[19:02] <kab> erUSUL, $ free
[19:02] <kab>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[19:02] <kab> Mem:       3220804
[19:02] <geirha> spazm_: LTS -> LTS, otherwise you'll have to go through each regular release
[19:02] <erUSUL> !paste | kab
[19:03] <kab> erUSUL, http://kab.pastebin.com/m69bfe97c
[19:04] <avi_> Is there any real danger in disabling a thermal module in Ubuntu, or should the lower-level systems manage on their own?
[19:04] <spazm_> geirha: will I be able to go from 810 to 1004?
[19:04] <spazm_> geirha: cause I just initiated the upgrade command :P
[19:04] <TheFlas> Olá alguém poderia me ajudar ?
[19:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> avi_, the lower-level should do the work
[19:04] <LjL> !br | TheFlas
[19:04] <geirha> spazm_: No, 8.10 is a regular release, so you have to go 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04
[19:05] <AndreMorro[BR]> TheFlas, in English here, in portuguese in PVT
[19:05] <TheFlas> LjL, fera então estou com problema no meu son e na video do meu not
[19:05] <avi_> Any reason I should hesitate disabling the thermal module as you suggested?
[19:05] <LjL> TheFlas: i don't speak portuguese
[19:05] <TheFlas> sorry
[19:05] <spazm_> geirha: ah then I will just wait for 10.04 and go all the way then... this will work for the server release I guess as well as the desktop?
[19:05] <grendal_prime> geirha: ive used debian for years but just started using ubuntu last year and started with hardy.  So the dist upgrade path for the lts is pretty painless?
[19:06] <geirha> spazm_: Yes.
[19:06] <frostburn> sun-java6-plugin doesn't install the firefox jre plugin, ideas?
[19:06] <llslim> is there a way to lisst packages that needsupdated on command line?
[19:06] <grendal_prime> The reason i ask is that i have dist-upraded several debian builds with little to no diffculty.
[19:06] <wm_> why does using the Intel 3945 wireless perform so badly in Karmic and Lucid ?
[19:07] <mediaprodigy> What is the channel that is for ubuntu musicians> I can not find it.
[19:07] <Michalxo> AndreMorro[BR] thanks :-(
[19:07] <Slart> llslim: you could probably use apt-get update -s   to see what would happen
[19:07] <Slart> llslim: -s means simulate.. ie it doesn't do anything.. it just writes out what it would do
[19:07] <geirha> grendal_prime: It should, it's supported and should be well tested.
[19:07] <grendal_prime> but want to make sure with the ubuntu dist-upgrades because i have server critical apps running on the lts right now.
[19:08] <spazm_> geirha: perfect, then I will wait for that instead of doing all the single steps :)
[19:08] <spazm_> geirha: thanks for the tip
[19:08] <TheFlas> I'm having problem with my sound driver and my video driver
[19:08] <Slart> llslim: sorry.. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s   might work better
[19:08] <mediaprodigy> i have tried ubuntumusician and ubuntumusicians and also have searched my channel list.. no luck
[19:08] <TheFlas> Instalei o Linux Ubuntu 9.10 e não reconhece som e video
[19:08] <TheFlas> I installed Linux Ubuntu 9.10 and does not recognize sound and video
[19:09] <Matson> I'm installing wordpress and **WAY** over the 5minute advertised install time
[19:09] <Matson> following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress
[19:10] <Michalxo> how to join #ubuntu-bugs??  #ubuntu-bugs :You need to be identified to join that channel ??
[19:10] <saraqual> heya
[19:10] <Matson> "If you will be using a virtual host, create your apache2 virtual host file in the /etc/apache2/sites-available folder." - where do I find the apache virtual hosts file?
[19:10] <Slart> !register | Michalxo
[19:10] <infid> where else would startup programs/daemons be executed than from somewhere in /etc? i grep'd all of /etc and its subfolders for 'syndaemon' but nothing turned up yet that program is started at startup by default in ubuntu according to ps
[19:10] <Michalxo> ah, thanks! Slart
[19:11] <llslim> Slart: apt-get upgrade -s did the trick kindof
[19:11] <saraqual> First time user for ubuntu, actually linux in a whole, any advice on documentation which I can read up on?
[19:11] <Matson> how do I start mysql?  there is no init file in init.s
[19:11] <Suhail> Is there only one root password or can someone have root access with a different password to their account
[19:11] <Slart> infid: some crontabs are located deep down in /var somewhere.. not sure what else might be in there
[19:11] <Matson> how do I start mysql?  there is no init file in *init.d*
[19:11] <Qwerty000106> i need help with ubuntu 9.10
[19:11] <Slart> infid: but /etc/ is the obvious place..
[19:11] <iceroot> Matson: /etc/init.d/mysql start  if it is installed with apt-get
[19:11] <Slart> !sudo | Suhail
[19:12] <Matson> iceroot: it is installed, but /etc/init.d/mysql is not there
[19:12] <Slart> saraqual: there is a good book.. hang on
[19:12] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get moo
[19:12] <grendal_prime> is there nautilus "ubuntu-one" integration for hardy?
[19:12] <iceroot> Matson: 9.10? installed with apt-get?
[19:12] <infid> slart well this is a program that's ran from system -> preferences -> mouse -> touchpad, but it only lets you disable/enable it there, not change the argument values
[19:13] <Matson> "mysql-common is already the newest version"
[19:13] <iceroot> Matson: mysql-server you want
[19:13] <avi_> How can I disable to password prompt when resuming from suspend?
[19:13] <Slart> saraqual: try this one http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/  .. it's free as a pdf.. it's written for 8.10 but most of the stuff is still valid
[19:13] <iceroot> Matson: sudo apt-get install mysql-server  and then  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:13] <Matson> :)
[19:13] <FabioTheApe> how do i make a copy of an unprotected DVD on ubuntu?
[19:13] <geirha> infid: I'd check /etc/xdg/autostart, gdm's config or ~/.config/autostart
[19:13] <saraqual> Slart, many thanks :) i'll give it a go
[19:13] <Matson> thanks
[19:13] <Matson> looks like I just had te common and client
[19:13] <infid> geirha:  i grep'd through every file in /etc
[19:13] <FabioTheApe> Slart, great book
[19:13] <Matson> no server on this box.  :/
[19:14] <infid> geirha:  with find /etc | xargs grep -i
[19:14] <mediaprodigy> Someone in this channel recommended another channel that i can not find in the channel listing it is for musicians who use ubuntu: does anyone have that channel name?
[19:14] <geirha> infid: grep -ri pattern /etc would be more efficient, but check .config/autostart then, in your homedir
[19:14] <Qwerty000106> dont no?
[19:14] <Slart> infid: hmm.. not sure where that might be run from.. you've grep'ed the /etc folder?
[19:14] <iceroot> mediaprodigy: #ubuntu-studio  i guess
[19:14] <arand> infid: /usr/bin/syndaemon maybe?
[19:14] <FabioTheApe> media ubuntu studio?
[19:15] <Qwerty000106> need some1 good with VM's to help me
[19:15] <infid> arand:  that's a binary
[19:15] <iceroot> !ask | Qwerty000106
[19:15] <Slart> Qwerty000106: just ask your question
[19:16] <Qwerty000106> its easyer to use the query function
[19:16] <iceroot> Qwerty000106: but not here
[19:16] <mediaprodigy> iceroot: FabioTheApe: thanks.. I do not think that is it but thank you for that channel.
[19:16] <Matson> ok - the default mysql server setup misses a really important and useful step - setting up a user other than the root user
[19:16] <duffydack> Ive shared a folder with the right click in nautilus, allowed 'others' write access but cannot write to it using win7.  another problem is using 'network' in nautilus it can see my win7 pc but clicking it it cant show the shares.
[19:17] <geirha> infid: Ah, it's probably started by Xorg if it detects a synaptics touchpad
[19:17] <Matson> it would be really helpful after installing the mysql server package to not have to go do google searches to figure out how to make the database usable
[19:17] <iceroot> Matson: it is usable
[19:17] <Qwerty000106> need help, graphics card not showing on Ubuntu 9.10 VM
[19:17] <Aranwe> a
[19:17] <Kinetic|work> matson : welcome to technology :)
[19:17] <bullgard> What is the function of the program »lernid«?
[19:17] <infid> geirha: but i've grepped /etc/X11 and all its subdirs too
[19:17] <Matson> maybe even a link to something like http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/adding-users.html
[19:18] <iceroot> Matson: why? normally a user knows what he is doing
[19:18] <Slart> bullgard: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/11/25/introducing-lernid/
[19:18] <iceroot> Matson: and if he dont know what to do, there are manpages
[19:18] <punto> hi.. I just got the package 'em8300-source', it's a kernel module, how do I compile it?
[19:18] <Kinetic|work> matson there is full docs that install with the package
[19:18] <geirha> infid: Might be hardcoded
[19:19] <iceroot> !tab | Kinetic|work
[19:19] <Kinetic|work> tab too close to  cap locl on this tiny tiny keyboard
[19:19] <Matson> fair enough, reading.  it would seem to me that creating a user with a mysql server would be a really helpful thing to automate as part of the install package
[19:19] <avi_> Is there any real danger in disabling a thermal module in Ubuntu, or should the lower-level systems manage on their own?
[19:19] <macman_>  bbl
[19:19] <Kinetic|work> Matson and dangerous
[19:20] <iceroot> Matson: no because normally you dont want a second user
[19:20] <infid> geirha: i guess i can write a new script that does a killall on that command and then runs my version
[19:20] <Matson> iceroot: all your programs should access the mysql db with the root user?
[19:21] <iceroot> Matson: and what should the script create? a second user without any rights? and if he should get some rights at setup, to what database? think about it
[19:21] <geirha> infid: Or edit xorg.conf. man synaptics
[19:21] <Matson> iceroot: I have, walk the install user through creating a database, a user, and the rights for that user
[19:22] <Matson> iceroot: that would seem more prudent than nothing
[19:22] <bullgard> Slart: I have now got an idea what lernid is for. --  Thank you. --  Can you also tell me how I can load this program or join a website 'learnid'?
[19:22] <iceroot> Matson: for that there is mysqladmin
[19:22] <infid> geirha: i dont even have a xorg.conf on this system yet it's still running that command on startup
[19:22] <iceroot> Matson: no need for doing that at the setup
[19:22] <Slart> bullgard: I have no idea.. that was just the first hit when I googled for "lernid"
[19:22] <h0rnman> Matson:  generally, I like that there are no users created by default.  In addition to avoiding the sticky topic of 'what permissions should this user have', you get some practice/refresher on creating users after a fresh install :)
[19:22] <FabioTheApe> can someone help me backup a dvd using dvdbackup?
[19:22] <bullgard> Slart: Ah! Thank  you.
[19:22] <geirha> infid: I mean edit xorg.conf rather than using syndaemon options
[19:22] <Slart> bullgard: you're welcome
[19:23] <OwaisLone> Hey
[19:23] <Matson> ok
[19:23] <OwaisLone> Anyone knows how to change the distro name
[19:23] <OwaisLone> ??
[19:23] <OwaisLone> I'm on Linux Mint 8
[19:23] <OwaisLone> distro name is Helena
[19:23] <Qwerty000106> graphics card not showing on Ubuntu 9.10 VM
[19:23] <FabioTheApe> OwaisLone, download distro, burn ISO, and install
[19:23] <OwaisLone> i want it to be Karmic
[19:24] <OwaisLone> haha
[19:24] <Slart> !mintsupport | OwaisLone
[19:24] <pelu> ya estoy
[19:24] <OwaisLone> ok..thats fine
[19:24] <Slart> !es | pelu
[19:24] <duffydack> installed samba and created a share on windows7, given everyone full control, but clicking the `win7` icon in nautilus network fails to retrieve share list from server
[19:24] <OwaisLone> but doesn't anyone know a bash variable whcih i can export
[19:25] <OwaisLone> like export DISTRONAME="Karmic"
[19:25] <OwaisLone> ??
[19:25] <Slart> OwaisLone: check the lsb modules..
[19:25] <Out_Cold> my server is down for some reason and i'm nowhere near it :( no lunch time cinema
[19:25] <Out_Cold> !hi | OwaisLone
[19:25] <qetuR> hello?
[19:25] <gooraang> join #bitme
[19:25] <saraqual> Righty boys, ISO on cd, time for the big test, hopefully I'll see you in a bit :)
[19:25] <gooraang> hii
[19:26] <Qwerty000106> graphics card not showing on Ubuntu 9.10 VM
[19:26] <julien_> hi
[19:26] <YuLin> hi, sorry
[19:26] <avi_> Is there any real danger in disabling a thermal module in Ubuntu, or should the lower-level systems manage on their own?
[19:26] <Slart> !details | Qwerty000106
[19:27] <pelu> k de ente
[19:27] <Out_Cold> Qwerty000106, VM uses it's own graphics system, not the host card
[19:27] <Qwerty000106> my graphics carde is not functioning on a VM of Ubuntu 9.10
[19:27] <Qwerty000106> how do i enable it?
[19:27] <Slart> Qwerty000106: is it a ubuntu host or an ubuntu guest? what vm? virtualbox? vmware? something else? 32 or 64bit? what do you mean "not showing up"? graphics cards don't usually show up and introduce themselves
[19:27] <pelu> en spanish
[19:27] <Qwerty000106> Vmware
[19:27] <Slart> !es | pelu
[19:27] <YuLin> hi, does anyone know why my bluetooth Apple Mighty Mouse scrolls perfectly on X and Y axis but doesn't allow me to click left or right ? °_°
[19:27] <Out_Cold> lol at introduction... My name is nvidia 8600 gt nice to meet you!
[19:27] <erUSUL> pelu: escribe " /join #ubuntu-es " y dale a enter
[19:28] <Qwerty000106> dont know what bit
[19:28] <FabioTheApe> does vmware have add ons?
[19:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> FabioTheApe, yeah there is
[19:28] <YuLin> (I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with no custom kernel whatsoever)
[19:28] <frostburn> sun-java6-plugin doesn't install the firefox jre plugin, ideas? this is on x86_64
[19:28] <pelu> no kiero
[19:28] <FabioTheApe> AndreMorro[BR], don't you have to install them to get the correct video drivers for the VM?
[19:28] <AndreMorro[BR]> FabioTheApe, yes you do
[19:29] <Purpley> Hey guys Ubuntu is starting to get extremely slow and lag and I think its time for a fresh install, right now im backing everything up to a seperate partition but I just want to know, are there any distro's that are really customizable and a little more advanced than ubuntu?
[19:29] <Qwerty000106> i have a 512mb integrated Graphics card
[19:29] <erUSUL> frostburn: in 64 bit use the icedtea one
[19:29] <FabioTheApe> problem solved then?
[19:29] <lyhana8_> hi, I can't launch firefox anymore, even in -safe-mode nothing come up
[19:29] <lyhana8_> I only got this message : (firefox:18051): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[19:29] <blakkheim> Purpley: there are many
[19:29] <Maletor> Why does Dolby digital work in XBMC but DTS does not? I have 7.1 speakers.
[19:29] <treble54> anyone know where I find the locations of all the apps listed in the SLAB menu (under More Applications) ?
[19:29] <frostburn> erUSUL, it's actually not working in my colleagues 32bit ubuntu either
[19:29] <geirha> frostburn: Try: ''sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun'', then restart firefox, and check about:plugins
[19:29] <Out_Cold> Purpley, try slax lol... no just kidding don't try that... but use ubuntu and customize it any way you want
[19:30] <blakkheim> Out_Cold: any binary distro (such as ubuntu) can't really be "customized" all that much unless you want to manually update your compiled packages
[19:30] <h0rnman> VMWare, in my experience, does not have the ability to load anything but the default vga drivers
[19:30] <pat|nG> to all newbies like me! don't attempt to use linux distro! u'll be addicted! bwahahahahaha! like me! LMAO!
[19:30] <tripps> hello. I'm trying to get ffmpeg to play 3gpp files. I'm trying to follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg but they are very unclear and don't flow. Could someone direct me the instructions I should follow for jaunty? I've done everything it indicates but still no success
[19:30] <FabioTheApe> Purpley, check out unity lilnux
[19:30] <FabioTheApe> linux*
[19:30] <Purpley> Out_Cold, I will probably alawys use ubuntu and fall back to it if I have problems since I have enough space on my HDD's I just want to explore other distros
[19:30] <infid> where is system->Prefs->session in karmic?
[19:30] <tripps> s/play/convert ffmpeg files is what I meant
[19:30] <YuLin> anyone for my Mighty Mouse, please? :s
[19:30] <AndreMorro[BR]> infid, in the place you just wrote
[19:30] <blakkheim> Purpley: for ultimate customization, try gentoo.
[19:30] <Slart> infid: isn't it called startup applications?
[19:30] <geirha> infid: s/session/startup applications/
[19:31] <FabioTheApe> blakkheim, unity linux :P
[19:31] <infid> geirha: because that's where the command i'm lookin for on startup is supposed tob e being called from but i dont see it in there
[19:31] <Qwerty000106> so is there any way at all to get the graphics working?
[19:31] <sillyCEO> Booting up ubuntu on my netbook right from the SD card. Would it be faster with a better, more expensive SD card?
[19:32] <Purpley> blakkheim, is it more of a terminal line distro or does it have graphics?
[19:32] <FabioTheApe> qweqweqwe, install the the quest additions
[19:32] <frostburn> geirha, yeah, it responds with no alternatives, so it's already set as the default
[19:32] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, theres an... High Speed SD card... you should check that out
[19:32] <blakkheim> Purpley: terminal of course
[19:32] <Out_Cold> Purpley, gentoo IMO was the hardest to install, but red hat or suse are very formidable distros
[19:32] <h0rnman> Qwerty:  not that I have ever found...If you are running in a virtual instance, you will be stuck with basic graphics...you may want to try Wubi though
[19:32] <FabioTheApe> Purpley, Unity Linux installs on a live disc
[19:32] <Maletor> Why does Dolby digital work in XBMC but DTS does not? I have 7.1 speakers
[19:32] <llslim> Slart: apt-get -uV upgrade list the packages that will be upgraded.. thanks for pointing me in right direction.
[19:32] <treble54> anyone know where I find the locations of all the apps listed in the SLAB menu (under More Applications) ? I'm sure there's a folder that has all the apps listed or an xml file of some sort I imagine
[19:32] <dury> hi there
[19:33] <Slart> llslim: ah.. nice.. didn't know apt had a switch for that.. good hunting there =)
[19:33] <Purpley> Out_Cold, I tried installing fedora I gave up after burning 4 cds
[19:33] <geirha> frostburn: Then restart firefox properly. File -> Quit, not the X at the upper right. Then start it again and check if java is listed in "about:plugins"
[19:33] <dury> anyone from down under
[19:33] <Profion> #ubuntu-br
[19:33] <Out_Cold> Purpley, usually you only "need" one disc, the rest are in case you don't have net..
[19:33] <Profion> #ubuntubr
[19:33] <AndreMorro[BR]> Profion, /j #ubuntu-br
[19:33] <Qwerty000106> bcos i need to download Wine and it says i dont have the right hardware architechure
[19:33] <guntbert> !ot | dury
[19:33] <Purpley> Ooooh
[19:33] <Profion> AndreMorro[BR], thanks
[19:34] <sillyCEO> AndreMorro{BR: I see there are 'high speed' SD cards.. just wasn't sure if it would make a difference in bootable time, and running apps time...
[19:34] <Purpley> I guess I'll try fedora thanks guys
[19:34] <Qwerty000106> and i dont have a graphics or sound card
[19:34] <llslim> Slart: wonders when you/i/we rtf manpage :)
[19:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, i sure do
[19:34] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, It* sure do
[19:34] <Qwerty000106> well on Ubuntu
[19:34] <FabioTheApe> sillyCEO, probably not to the average person
[19:34] <Slart> llslim: hehe
[19:35] <FabioTheApe> although, when i installed Ubuntu it was light years faster then Windows XP
[19:35] <h0rnman> Qwerty:  I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say
[19:35] <infid> does karmic not use GPG ? i never see it popup like i did in jaunty
[19:35] <Out_Cold> FabioTheApe, side by side with new installs, they both run fairly fast
[19:35] <frostburn> geirha, still not there, i'll futz with it later, thanks for the help
[19:35] <sillyCEO> AndreMorro{BR: FabioTheApe: Maybe I'll grab a fast SD and do a little test. Whats the easiest way to clone SD --> SD ?
[19:36] <FabioTheApe> sillyCEO, maybe clonezilla?
[19:36] <gotsanity-book> I need a suggestion of the best way to sync a set of directories/files with another ubuntu machine on the network
[19:36] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, clonezilla or the old dd
[19:36] <Suhail> So I added a group permission to some files but I still can't write to the files, any idea why? I am part of the group
[19:36] <h0rnman> gotsanity:  try rsync
[19:37] <Slart> gotsanity-book: another vote for rsync
[19:37] <Purpley> If I keep ubuntu on my computer and install fedora on a seperate partition do I need a seperate swap for fedora?
[19:37] <BuGo_laptop> hi. if i have Dual channel DDR3 ram. can i take one chip out?
[19:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> Purpley, no you dont... they can all use the same swap space
[19:37] <BuGo_laptop> it will still work?
[19:37] <gotsanity-book> Purpley, no, one swap is good enough
[19:37] <Purpley> Alright
[19:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> BuGo_laptop, yes
[19:37] <BuGo_laptop> tnz
[19:37] <BuGo_laptop> tnx
[19:37] <AndreMorro[BR]> yw
[19:38] <sillyCEO> FabioTheApe: will try clonezilla, thx.
[19:38] <giuseppe_> ciao
[19:38] <jellow> !it | giuseppe_
[19:38] <OwaisLone> Hey
[19:38] <OwaisLone> anyone on Karmic
[19:38] <FabioTheApe> hey
[19:38] <sillyCEO> AndreMorro[BR: you mean "old" dd as in "an older version", or do you just mean "good old dd"..
[19:38] <OwaisLone> need the output of this command
[19:38] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ask | OwaisLone
[19:38] <OwaisLone>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[19:38] <OwaisLone> oh sorry
[19:39] <FabioTheApe> is karmic 9.10 or 9.04
[19:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, the good old dd
[19:39] <Purpley> Fedora uses .rpm's correct?
[19:39] <geirha> FabioTheApe: 9.10
[19:39] <OwaisLone> it's 9.10
[19:39] <OwaisLone> is command
[19:39] <OwaisLone> cat /etc/*-release
[19:39] <AndreMorro[BR]> Purpley, yes
[19:39] <llslim> Suhail: is acl permissions enabled on partition?
[19:39] <obiwan_> hi please i need some hlp, i wiped up the .gnupg dir of my usb disk cause it's hidden and i removed it's up in hierarchy dir. I'm reading the DataRecovery ubuntu help guide, but i'm in doubt about using gddrescue, could any expert in recovery help me? thanks
[19:39] <Suhail> llslim: I don't know what that is but I am guessing I need to chmod the files so group has write access =)
[19:40] <OwaisLone> ubottu: Ok.. I'm new..... and learning
[19:40] <Myrtti> OwaisLone: may I ask why do you need to change the release name of your mint?
[19:40] <FabioTheApe> OwaisLone, then i an running karmic
[19:40] <Suhail> or not..........
[19:40] <Suhail> wtf
[19:40] <llslim> sulh yes thast would be helpful, :)
[19:40] <Suhail> is chmod'd the files to 777
[19:40] <Suhail> and I can't write
[19:40] <Suhail> oh wait
[19:40] <Suhail> nvm
[19:40] <FloodBot3> Suhail: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <OwaisLone> Myrtti: I'm using Quickly. Have to share packages on Launcpad. But lauchpad does not allow Helena.
[19:41] <sillyCEO> AndreMorro[BR: off to buy a fast SD now. thx!
[19:41] <OwaisLone> FabioTheApe: Give me the output of this command> cat /etc/*-release
[19:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> sillyCEO, you're welcome
[19:41] <Purpley> Is x86_64 64 bit or 32 bit?
[19:41] <FabioTheApe> OwaisLone, i have already told you once, the only way to change your OS is to install a different one
[19:41] <AndreMorro[BR]> silly question, How do I get out of away in xchat??
[19:41] <Myrtti> OwaisLone: you're on the road to breaking your system, possibly very badly
[19:41] <blakkheim> Purpley: does the name not give it away?
[19:42] <FabioTheApe> alt a AndreMorro[BR]
[19:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> FabioTheApe, you mean help?
[19:42] <Purpley> :/ just making sure I like to be certain on everything
[19:42] <FabioTheApe> no...
[19:42] <llslim> Suhail: see if getfacl <file> outputs anything
[19:42] <OwaisLone> FabioTheApe: I just want a quick hack. Why the trouble of installing all over again....
[19:42] <FabioTheApe> AndreMorro[BR], to come back after being away you press alt+a
[19:42] <OwaisLone> MyrttiL I dont think so + quite used to that
[19:42] <AndreMorro[BR]> FabioTheApe, I'm using pt_br so the shortcuts may vary
[19:43] <AndreMorro[BR]> Tchan Tchan!!
[19:43] <AndreMorro[BR]> its Ctrl Alt A
[19:43] <purpleGecko> Purpley: yes, 64 bit
[19:44] <photocopy> Every single time I load state in zsnes the program closes (crashing, i presume) and I can reproduce the effect by loading a state. Yes, i've saved one prior to loading one each time, and yes, it happens every time, any rom.
[19:44] <nutzerxxxxxx> cgccgc
[19:45] <reginald_> #ubuntu
[19:45] <Suhail> question what does the "other" permission mean for a chmod
[19:45] <nutzerx> ffrd
[19:46] <guntbert> nutzerx:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:46] <giuseppe_> list server
[19:46] <AndreMorro[BR]> Suhail, owner, group, anyone else in the system
[19:46] <Suhail> okay
[19:46] <guntbert> !list | giuseppe_
[19:47] <geirha> Suhail: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:47] <Suhail> AndreMorro[BR]: so 770 must be common
[19:47] <AndreMorro[BR]> Suhail, sure
[19:47] <wasutton3> would mounting a drive while dd is copying from it be a bad idea?
[19:48] <AndreMorro[BR]> wasutton3, yes it is
[19:48] <wasutton3> AndreMorro[BR] i thought so
[19:48] <ta> hello, is there a program similar to notepad++???
[19:48] <wasutton3>  ta, gedit
[19:49] <ta> wasutton3, I need something more advanced...
[19:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> ta, geany
[19:49] <reginald_> need help installing drivers for nvidia 5200 geforce fx video. Properity drivers only give me 640x300
[19:49] <wasutton3>  ta, what for?
[19:49] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, 640x300?? is that a netbook?
[19:50] <Myrtti> ta: you can extend gedit with plugins...
[19:50] <reginald_> no It's a desktop
[19:50] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, did you used the Restricted Drivers that come with ubuntu?
[19:51] <Suhail> AndreMorro[BR]: can you add multiple groups to a file?
[19:51] <ta> wasutton3, AndreMorro[BR], Myrtti, thanks, I found SciTE
[19:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> Suhail, not that I know of
[19:51] <Suhail> AndreMorro[BR]: okay =(
[19:51] <reginald_> yes and they only give me 800x600
[19:51] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, after installing it, are you using the nvidia-preferences from the System menu? or the Video app?
[19:52] <FabioTheApe> how do i play a dvd on ubuntu?
[19:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> FabioTheApe, use totem
[19:52] <Slart> !dvd | FabioTheApe
[19:52] <FabioTheApe> is that the one that is built in?
[19:52] <reginald_> nvidia-preferences
[19:52] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, funny... does your monitor supports 1024 or more?
[19:53] <luisgmarine> hey guys if I want to install a new nvidia card, is there a chance of messing up my system if I just plug it in and boot up?
[19:53] <FabioTheApe> wow that was to easy i just had to click on a link....
[19:53] <AndreMorro[BR]> luis_lopez, usually just plugin and boot-up
[19:53] <reginald_> it supports 1280x1024
[19:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, usually just plugin and boot-up, dont forget to install the drivers after booting
[19:54] <h0rnman> reginald_, did you try adding lines to xorg.conf for the supported modes for your monitor?
[19:54] <meestermole> hello room
[19:54] <jurisz> Hello ubuntu users! Are here Chineese here? What does word "longsu" means? tnx!
[19:54] <Trek> !offtopic | jurisz
[19:54] <reginald_> I'm a newbee and don't know how to do that
[19:54] <jellow> how i use a .patch file?
[19:54] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], ok.  just asking because I think my DVI port on my monitor is broken.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my monitor using DVI but it can detect it when I  use RBG.  I bought a new 1GB 250OC video card hoping that might fix the problem
[19:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, thats pretty funny cuz I use a FX5200 also in a 19' screen and everything worked almost out of the box... installed the drivers reboot, and BANG! 1280x1024
[19:55] <Suhail> AndreMorro[BR]: does other include root?
[19:55] <gandhijee> hey, how do i change my default window manager?
[19:55] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], I already have an nvidia card installed with the 185 driver.  Should I do anything to it before I install the new video card?
[19:55] <gandhijee> i don't want to use gnome, i just want gdm for a display manager
[19:55] <Suhail> nvm
[19:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, you're swapping from nvndia to nvidia?
[19:55] <meestermole> would this be the proper channel to ask about an odd behavior having to do with Ubuntu network settings (possibly)?
[19:55] <reginald_> I've tried ubuntu several times and can never get the resolution to work right.
[19:56] <FabioTheApe> !ask
[19:56] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], yeah.  I"m switching my 8800GTX for a GTS 250 OC
[19:56] <luisgmarine> reginald_, have you installed the proper drivers for you video card?
[19:56] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, I would recomend you to remove the actual drivers (nvidia-180 I guess) then swapping and adding the new one (196 i guess)
[19:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> if you have isntalled the latest (190 +) don't need to
[19:57] <Trek> meestermole, just ask your question, don't ask to ask a question
[19:57] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], are the 196 in the repos?
[19:57] <traco_> !kernel
[19:57] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, not sure... thats why I said that
[19:57] <meestermole> I cannot seem to access any web-config type of device with my Ubuntu machine. websites load fine. other computers on my network access them fine also (another ubuntu, and an XP)
[19:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, the most recent is 185 in the repos
[19:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, you can do by hand...
[19:58] <reginald_> which one's are the proper one's to install
[19:58] <h0rnman> reginald_, which release are you on?
[19:58] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], yeah I've done it before.  But I'm wondering if that could be the cause of Ubuntu not recognizing my monitor in DVI mode
[19:58] <ewok> does anyone have a major delay when using grub2??
[19:58] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, its possible, cant be sure till you tested
[19:58] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], I need to find someone else with a DVI port on their computer to hook up to my monitor so that I can know for sure my monitor is not the one at fault.
[19:59] <pat|nG> thanx guys! got to go! see yah!
[19:59] <reginald_> Ubuntu 9.10
[19:59] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], ok I'm just going to shut off my computer, swap out the video cards and hope for th ebest
[19:59] <luisgmarine> see you guys in a few if it works =)
[19:59] <Trek> anyone familiar with what java-gcj does and if I need it for anything?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362827/  <-- those are my java runtimes, it shows up there
[19:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> reginald_, System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[19:59] <theduke> general shell question: is every function in a shell (bash) script run in a subshell?
[19:59] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, good look, tell us back the results
[19:59] <tobiasz> I'm I'm an idiot
[19:59] <h0rnman> reginald_, silly questions, but have you updated everything via Update Manager or APT?
[20:00] <Trek> meestermole, what do you mean by web-config type of devices?
[20:00] <meestermole> Trek, i have an  Linksys NSLU2 and a Dslink NAS device
[20:00] <meestermole> Ive been able to access them with this machine before
[20:01] <Trek> you tried rebooting the devices, meestermole (unplug and plug back in)
[20:01] <AJC_Z0> theduke: No, functions and aliases should run in the current shell though the scope of local variables is limited to the function
[20:01] <AJC_Z0> theduke: But don't believe me. As in #bash
[20:01] <ewok> another question if ayone can help?
[20:02] <Trek> !ask | ewok
[20:02] <meestermole> i have - and the router as well. all other machines can hit those pages. if i use this same machine, booted into windows it goes there. if i use vmware xp thru ubuntu it hangs
[20:02] <lorenzo_> sera
[20:02] <Trek> meestermole, then I'm not sure what the issue is, perhaps others can assist you.  sorry.
[20:02] <meestermole> i have narrowed it down to this install of ubuntu, and possible sesttings changes.
[20:02] <bruntib> hello everyone!
[20:02] <AndreMorro[BR]> meestermole, your briding the connections in VMware?
[20:02] <blueyed> Is there a linux app to create nice collages like with Picasy?
[20:03] <blueyed> *Picasa
[20:03] <ewok> any easy way of writing data to hfs+?
[20:03] <bruntib> i'd like to ask about repositories
[20:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> blueyed, there is picasa for linux! picasa.google.com
[20:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> !ask | bruntib
[20:03] <fahadmoideen> i have a small issue. i cant see my minimized windows as buttons in any of the panels. need help. plzzz.
[20:03] <un2him> hello everybody
[20:03] <meestermole> yes, and it works fine for the web, just not config pages to local network devices
[20:03] <mnetizen> blueyed: why not use Picasa for Linux? Works nicely with Ubuntu, and others.
[20:03] <reginald_> tried them drivers and i get a very low resolution
[20:03] <AndreMorro[BR]> fahadmoideen, left click in the panel, Add, Find (in english) the program list (something like it)
[20:03] <blueyed> AndreMorro[BR]: I know, but it's not really free.
[20:04] <bruntib> when are repositories updated?->I mean I'd like to use qt4.6 but I can't find it
[20:04] <blueyed> mnetizen: ^^
[20:04] <geirha> fahadmoideen: right click panel -> add to panel -> window list
[20:04] <infid> where should i add a script to run whenever i start up and make sure it runs dead last after all the other startups cripts?
[20:04] <meestermole> but oddly i can view the config page to my router
[20:04] <theduke> AJC_ZO: will do, thanks
[20:04] <AndreMorro[BR]> meestermole, see, if you VM machine works in a differnte subnet, it probably dont hit others devices on the local net, to do that you proabably need to bridge the VM connection with you local connection
[20:04] <ewok> i just did a fresh install of 9.10 and the grub2 boots real slow and im kinda stumped on this hfs+ on linux thing!
[20:05] <fahadmoideen> thnx buddy. got it done.. thnx alot. need any help???
[20:05] <watersj_> hello, looking for an inexpensive sound card <$15us, any suggestions?
[20:06] <Trek> !offtopic | watersj_
[20:06] <guntbert> !hcl | watersj_
[20:06] <meestermole> AndreMorro, i only used VMware to test, and narrow down my problem to my ubuntu installation. i can connect to the NSLU2 via it's IP in Firefox using other computers on my network, including this very machine dual booted into windoze. i am unsure of what has changed
[20:07] <SuspectZero> hey there
[20:07] <SuspectZero> quick question, im looking at some stuff for karmic and i see that it has an xbased boot splash, is that possible already through an installion of some package?
[20:07] <SuspectZero> or is that specifically for karmic?
[20:07] <meestermole> i have re-configured my connection  trhough network manager, checking settings against my netbook setup of ubuntu, which works to access the page fine
[20:08] <terje_> hi, gnome-panel is in an endless loop of crashing/restarting on my desktop. Any pointers on where to look to fix that?
[20:08] <meestermole> i even reset the iptables of this installation of ubuntu. nothing has changed
[20:08] <ranjan> hello every body i am facing an problem with an internal ntfs partition it is showing an un mount option  and i wish to disable this for that drive ... can any body have any idea how to do that  on ubuntu  9.10 any help'll be of great help
[20:08] <DreamDemon> meestermole, Did you flush the routing cache afterwards?
[20:08] <geirha> terje_: See if it drops any messages in ~/.xsession-errors
[20:08] <soreau> SuspectZero: afaik, it's specifically for karmic with open source graphics drivers
[20:09] <bruntib> Can anyone tell me when will I be able to download qt4.6 from default karmic repository?
[20:09] <reginald_> yes everything is updated
[20:09] <bruntib> quite slowly:S
[20:09] <terje_> thanks geirha
[20:09] <terje_> checking
[20:09] <bruntib> I still can't find it
[20:09] <meestermole> i do not understand why it suddenly will not  access pages of these devices. furthermore it seems like firefox also "sees" the page header on the DLINK device page, but still does not load
[20:10] <meestermole> is it ok to paste the commands that i used in the ip-table reset?
[20:10] <PHughes> I just upgraded to 9.10 - now I can no longer log in (using gdm) to fluxbox -- anyone have an idea how to troubleshoot this, or where to look for clues?
[20:10] <Carlis> hi
[20:10] <geirha> bruntib: Unless there's a special exception for qt, you won't see any new version of it in karmic's repositories
[20:10] <Carlis> I need help
[20:10] <PHughes> trying to log in to fluxbox just dumps me back to the login screen
[20:11] <Slart> PHughes: have you checked the logs? perhaps fluxbox doesn't want to start? or X crashes?
[20:11] <ranjan>  i am facing an problem with an internal ntfs partition it is showing an un mount option  and i wish to disable this for that drive ... can any body have any idea how to do that  on ubuntu  9.10 any help'll be of great help
[20:11] <meestermole> DreamDemon, here is what i did to flush the ip tables
[20:11] <PHughes> Slart: yes, but I either can't find it or don't know where to look
[20:11] <meestermole> sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[20:11] <meestermole> sudo iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[20:11] <meestermole> sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[20:11] <meestermole> sudo iptables -F
[20:11] <meestermole> sudo iptables -X
[20:11] <Suhail> so if "others" in permission is 7 that means anyone on the system that has an account can rwx?
[20:11] <FloodBot3> meestermole: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <infid> whenever i ping an internet site from my netbook it does it right away, but whenever i ping a local computer it says 'Destination host unreachable'. However, it only does this for a few minutes everytime i wake from suspension. Is there a way to force linux to find routes to computers on my LAN quicker?
[20:12] <Carlis> who can help me ??
[20:12] <Gnea> !ask | Carlis
[20:12] <Slart> PHughes: I think errors would show up in the syslog /var/log/syslog
[20:12] <Carlis> pl
[20:12] <Carlis> ok
[20:12] <bruntib> I have already tried to build qt that I downloaded from the official site but I had bad experiences, that's why I'm waiting on repository update... But thanks for the answer:)
[20:12] <Carlis> I am going to install Ubuntu in advance mode
[20:12] <meestermole> my apologies - i used the method here to flush the iptables : http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/10/how-to-flush-or-remove-all-iptables.html
[20:12] <DreamDemon> While doing a custom compile for my server ( HP-DL385) I cant seem to get all the way through the compile without it bombing/not finishing.  Stamp is disabled along with a ton of other un-necessary thinsg that I dont even have hardware for.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d449faf50
[20:13] <Carlis> The disk has 81.956 mb
[20:13] <Slart> !enter | Carlis
[20:13] <Gnea> Carlis: try to explain this all at once, if you can
[20:13] <DreamDemon> meestermole, did you flush the route tho?
[20:13] <DreamDemon> meestermole, from the route command?
[20:13] <infid> how can i bring up 'wmaster0' ?
[20:13] <janisozaur> i have a pdf, it doesn't display correctly due to missing fonts. how do i know what fonts am i missing?
[20:14] <Gnea> infid: sudo ifconfig wmaster0 up
[20:14] <geirha> bruntib: During development of an ubuntu release, packages are updated regularly ... until a certain date (package freeze). After that, no new versions will be added, only security updates or otherwise important bug fixes.
[20:14] <Suhail> So I added myself to a group, chown'd the folder to owner:<group i made>, and set the chmod as 770, and I can't cd into it. When I do id `whoami` it says I am apart of that group. Any ideas?
[20:14] <meestermole> DreamDemon, i am unaware of how to do so
[20:14] <Slart> janisozaur: try running the pdf viewer from a terminal.. perhaps it will show some kind of error
[20:14] <luisgmarine> AndreMorro[BR], sweet everything seems to be working great, now I just have to try my connecti via a DVI cable and see if that might work =\
[20:15] <Matson> is there a way to repair files on an already installed package?
[20:15] <FabioTheApe> I have a strange problem
[20:15] <infid> does karmic not use GPG ? i never see it popup like i did in jaunty
[20:15] <janisozaur> Slart: tried that already, evince says nothing
[20:15] <Carlis> I am going to install Ubuntu in advance mode. The disk has 81.956 mb. I have to create 3 partitions. How do i do it ?
[20:15] <Matson> to "re-install" over hte files that are there from the package
[20:15] <bruntib> ok, thanks:)
[20:15] <DreamDemon> meestermole, Check your routes and see if the information you set up with iptables still exists
[20:15] <ikonia> Carlis: the installer will guide you
[20:15] <FabioTheApe> I uh.. am watching a dvd with totem
[20:16] <Slart> janisozaur: hmm.. then I don't know, sorry
[20:16] <FabioTheApe> but in order to watch it I have to right click and select open with movie player
[20:16] <Trek> Matson, go into synaptic, find the package, and select "Mark for Reinstallation"
[20:16] <geirha> infid: Packages are still signed with gpg
[20:16] <meestermole> DreamDemon, i will try that and report back momentarily
[20:16] <Gnea> Carlis: when you get into advanced mode, it will show you the disk as a whole unit, likely with pre-existing partitions there. by clicking on them, different buttons will become available for use.
[20:16] <FabioTheApe> if i open totem first it will tell me that the dvd can not be opened
[20:16] <AndreMorro[BR]> luisgmarine, great
[20:16] <fahadmoideen> is ubuntu compatible with lenovo 3000G500 laptops?
[20:16] <Carlis> I know but I have to create partition
[20:16] <Matson> Trek: what is synaptic?  I don't run a gui
[20:16] <Trek> hold on, Matson
[20:16] <DreamDemon> meestermole, I'm going to guess that the routing information is still in cache and is why your still awry
[20:16] <ikonia> Matson: use apt then
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> Matson: ok, for command line --> apt-get install --resinatll <package>
[20:17] <geirha> Matson: Or sudo aptitude reinstall <package>
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> Matson: ok, for command line --> apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[20:17] <FabioTheApe> is that a known issue with totem?
[20:17] <Trek> Matson: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packageName>
[20:17] <Gnea> Carlis: which is one of the buttons that becomes illuminated for use. try using it and see what happens - just remember, you can press the 'back' button and restart it and it won't actually write or erase anything until you're sure.
[20:18] <Matson> thanks Trek geirha onetinsoldier ikonia
[20:18] <Carlis> ok
[20:18] <Carlis> Thanks bye
[20:18] <Trek> no problem, Matson
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> MatBoy: you're welcome. cheers
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> MatBoy: oops. sorry.. wrong nick
[20:19] <Trek> anyone familiar with what java-gcj does and if I need it for anything?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362827/  <-- those are my java runtimes, it shows up there
[20:19] <Suhail> So I added myself to a group, chown'd the folder to owner:<group i made>, and set the chmod as 770, and I can't cd into it. When I do id `whoami` it says I am apart of that group. Any ideas?
[20:19] <Trek> anyone familiar with what java-gcj does and if I need it for anything?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/362827/  <-- those are my java runtimes, it shows up there.  Can I safely remove it?
[20:19] <meestermole> frustrating
[20:19] <FabioTheApe> I am very frustrated with my current state of being....
[20:20] <meestermole> Dream Demon
[20:20] <zamba> i have a problem when i click on terminals in X.. more often than not, it's interpreted as a double click
[20:20] <meestermole> using the networking utility, i see no routing information
[20:20] <blueyed> AndreMorro[BR]: picasa segfaults in Lucid.. :/
[20:20] <daedhel> zamba: please explain more
[20:21] <meestermole> under 1pv4 settings, routing - there is nothing entered
[20:21] <inko> im installing ubuntu 9.10 64bit, im partitioning my drive to 50gb /home and 50gb / how much swap space should i use?
[20:21] <zamba> daedhel: when you click on a window, it should just make it active.. but when you double click on an image, it tries automatically selecting text for copying..
[20:21] <geirha> Suhail: What's the error message exactly?
[20:21] <Trek> inko: the same amount of memory as your RAM + 1GB
[20:21] <FabioTheApe> anyone know anything about UBUNTU, I am about to uninstall it if I don't get some answers!
[20:21] <Trek> !ask | FabioTheApe
[20:21] <inko> ok thanks Trek
[20:22] <zamba> daedhel: but then you explicitly have to double click it.. now, after upgrading to 9.10, i get this behavior when single clicking.. not all the time, but often enough so that's annoying
[20:22] <guntbert> inko: that depends on your RAM and if you want to "suspend to disk"
[20:22] <FabioTheApe> I have asked about 4 times
[20:22] <Trek> whoops, wronng !
[20:22] <Trek> FabioTheApe: just ask again
[20:22] <deshymers1> I have the dell v10 running karmic NBR, and I'm pretty sure this netbook has a bluetooth card it says so on the dell site, but when I run the command hciconfig -a it doesnt report any devices, is there anything else I can check?
[20:22] <Trek> FabioTheApe: we don't always see your messages
[20:22] <geirha> Suhail: and «ls -ld /path/to/folder» shows drwxrwx--- ?
[20:22] <daedhel> zamba: maybe setting your double click sesibility lower in settings ?
[20:22] <Trek> FabioTheApe: note I've asked a question 3 times and haven't gotten an answer yet
[20:22] <inko> guntbert, how can i tell how much ram i have?
[20:22] <Suhail> geirha: had to reconnect
[20:22] <zamba> daedhel: it's not the double click setting
[20:22] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to set up dual monitors on an HP Media Center PC that has a vga port that isn't on the graphics card.  How do I get ubuntu to recognize it?
[20:22] <zamba> daedhel: because that's set high enough
[20:22] <rasstar> i just installed ubuntu.  i swear it looks the same as when i tried it 3 years ago
[20:22] <FabioTheApe> Trek, when I try to play a DVD using TOTEM it won't let me unless I right click on the dvd and tell it to open using the movie player
[20:23] <iceroot> rasstar: server-edition? :)
[20:23] <rasstar> desktop
[20:23] <rasstar> why no ui updates
[20:23] <Trek> what do you want it to actually do, just open automatically into movie player?
[20:23] <usr13_> Just got an email from someone asking how to configure "ageresoftmodem" on Ubuntu 9.10.  I have no idea what to tell them.
[20:23] <daedhel> zamba: i don,t really have an aswer for you question, sorry, but you might wanna try Terminal from the xfce suite. I like it a loot
[20:23] <Trek> FabioTheApe, what do you want it to actually do, just open automatically into movie player?
[20:24] <Matson> anyone running wordpress on ubuntu?  there how do I keep it up to date?  wordpress is now running, but the tools says to upgrate and the upgrade fails (2.7.1 -> 2.9.1)
[20:24] <FabioTheApe> Trek, I want to be able to open up Totem, and click file, and then click play dvd
[20:24] <FabioTheApe> but when i do that Trek I get an error "can't open DVD"
[20:24] <Trek> i got a similar issue, but I don't know how to resolve it
[20:24] <ta> how can I do extended desktop optiplex gx620. I tried using the standard configurations, but once I set the extended desktop, the computer freezes and I have to restart it.
[20:24] <daedhel> toastedmilk: you have to setup your videocard drivers accordingly. what is it? nvidia or ati ?
[20:24] <FabioTheApe> I was just wondering if it was me, or a known issue
[20:24] <guntbert> inko: you see it when booting - or you start the live system and there system/administration/system monitor - on the system tab
[20:25] <usr13_> I guess maybe just tell them to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[20:25] <inko> guntbert 3gb
[20:25] <DreamDemon> While doing a custom compile for my server ( HP-DL385) I cant seem to get all the way through the compile without it bombing/not finishing.  Stamp is disabled along with a ton of other un-necessary thinsg that I dont even have hardware for.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d449faf50
[20:25] <Kinetic|work> FabioTheApe, Trek , ubuntu doesnt come out of the box with libdvdcss .. you will have to google search to find how to install. be aware its illegal in the u.S without a license
[20:26] <ikonia> DreamDemon: what are you compiling ?
[20:26] <toastedmilk> daedhel, ati, but the ati card is lower on the case and has dvi ports.  there is a vga port that is on the upper part of the back of the case, that isn't on the graphics card
[20:26] <guntbert> inko: do you want to suspend to disk?
[20:26] <saraqual> Well, seems the installation went all good, didn't lose any of my old ntfs patitions, except the one intended for ubutu
[20:26] <FabioTheApe> Kinetic|work, as I have said it works, just not the way expected
[20:26] <DreamDemon> ikonia, the kernel
[20:26] <Trek> Kinetic|work: I also have Windows that works with DVDs
[20:26] <ikonia> DreamDemon: why ?
[20:26] <daedhel> toastedmilk: what makes you think its for a 2nd monitor ?
[20:26] <ikonia> DreamDemon: what's wrong with the stock one ?
[20:26] <inko> guntbert, not really sure what that means, should i?
[20:26] <Kinetic|work> Trek windows is licensed to use libdvdcss
[20:26] <Kinetic|work> err dvdcss sorry :)
[20:26] <toastedmilk> daedhel, because the monitor fits in the port, idk
[20:26] <DreamDemon> ikonia, It's a server and need to squeeze as much perf out of it as possible
[20:26] <inko> guntbert, i have 100gb free space im installing on
[20:27] <meestermole> I cannot access config page to my NAS devices with 1 out of 3 of my PCs - anyone?
[20:27] <Trek> as I said, Kinetic|work, I use Windows to play DVDs (it runs smoother for me)
[20:27] <ikonia> DreamDemon: then don't custom compile - it will get more juice out of it
[20:27] <saraqual> Just a quick question, every time I browse to on of the old drivers it automaticaly creates a "icon" on one of the workspaces, any chance I could turn that off?
[20:27] <ikonia> DreamDemon: if you think a custom kernel will squeeze juice out of your box, your not living in a real world
[20:27] <daedhel> toastedmilk: that probably is you motherboard's card, wich is desactivated when you intall another card on it
[20:27] <toastedmilk> daedhel, any way to get them both working?
[20:27] <DreamDemon> ikonia, So I can zet timeers higher then 100 Mhz without re-compiling?
[20:27] <daedhel> toastedmilk: nope
[20:28] <DreamDemon> ikonia, amongst other things
[20:28] <ikonia> DreamDemon: why do you feel setting the timers will give you more performance /
[20:28] <guntbert> inko: it means you can tell the system to write everything in memory to the disk and shut off power - that way it will restart faster and at the same point you were before - in windows its called hibernate
[20:28] <DAMEXICO> hello
[20:28] <inko> guntbert, then yeah
[20:28] <DreamDemon> ikonia, One of the things running on this machine is a game server.  Need to increase the I/O timers for fps boosting
[20:29] <ikonia> DreamDemon: it really won't make a differnce, you're living in a false economy
[20:29] <Losha> !mencoder
[20:29] <toastedmilk> daedhel, that puzzles me.
[20:30] <ikonia> DreamDemon: that sort of thing is for very specific tuning, things like hpc, or high io database servers, a games server you won't see a difference
[20:30] <guntbert> inko: then the first advice (way up) was good - but 3GB swap (same as RAM) will be ok too
[20:30] <inko> guntbert, ok thanks
[20:30] <DreamDemon> ikonia, So stipiing out the un-necessary garbage out of the kernel and custom compiling for my Opteron-HE's wont make a difference in how well the kernel code performs on the machine?
[20:30] <PeterParker> !mark
[20:30] <ikonia> DreamDemon: no
[20:30] <PHughes> Slart: Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't see anything in /var/log/syslog that helps....
[20:30] <terje_> hi, where is my screen (display) resolution set? (filename)?
[20:30] <guntbert> inko: you're welcome :-)
[20:30] <genii> deshymers1: According to http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfh/notebooks/laptop-inspiron-10/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-10&cs=22&s=dfh Bluetooth is optional
[20:31] <terje> I would imagine it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it's actually not there.
[20:31] <Trek> !offtopic PeterParker
[20:31] <Trek> !offtopic | PeterParker
[20:31] <DreamDemon> ikonia, Since when does that not help a machine and it's overhead?!?
[20:31] <Kinetic|work> terje : correct, yours is missing???
[20:31] <Slart> PHughes: hmm.. not sure if there are other logs that might be interesting
[20:32] <ikonia> DreamDemon: it never has, your whole system would need to be optimised and it's still a false economy
[20:32] <terje> my what is missing?
[20:32] <terje> my resolution is not in that file.
[20:32] <terje> although it is set properly
[20:32] <Kinetic|work> check the xorg for include
[20:32] <terje> ah
[20:33] <haffe> Guys. I have gotten a dual monitor setup for my computer. What mode should I run?
[20:33] <haffe> separate screens or twinview?
[20:33] <terje> no includes..
[20:33] <PeterParker> hello people are there any helpers here?
[20:33] <DreamDemon> ikonia, Funny, been using linux for more then 10 years and thats the first I've heard that slimming down the kernel does not help with overhead or unwanted/needed drivers
[20:33] <Kinetic|work> terje im stuck thensorry:(
[20:33] <terje> I like seperate screens
[20:33] <terje> ok, thanks.
[20:33] <ikonia> DreamDemon: the ubuntu kernel is modular, it only loads what it's needed, that would only help with a monolitic kernel
[20:33] <guntbert> !ask | PeterParker
[20:33] <PeterParker> i have to ask a staff question are there any helpers ?
[20:34] <ikonia> PeterParker: just ask the question
[20:34] <PeterParker> thanx i was curious to know if you have seen the nick sabdfl recently ?
[20:34] <DAMEXICO> most people are experts here
[20:34] <Trek> PeterParker, if you're looking for the ops, they might not be in this channel...
[20:34] <DAMEXICO> just ask your Q
[20:34] <ikonia> PeterParker: that's offtopic for this channel, but yes, he is online
[20:34] <DAMEXICO> apparently
[20:35] <PeterParker> a thanx you can tell me wich chans as i can't get reponse from whois and have to fish to a convo we had long ago
[20:35] <ikonia> PeterParker: he's not on line at this moment
[20:35] <PeterParker> if i ever find him back i hope :)
[20:35] <PeterParker> ok ill check later then thanx
[20:35] <gandhijee> hey, what does ubuntu use to start the vt's since init has been replaced? or i guess the better question is where is the location of the upstart files that control the vt's?
[20:35] <luisgmarine> hey guys I just changed my monitors connection from RBG to DVI and I can't seem to change my resolution.  How do I re-install the nvidia drivers?
[20:35] <Josesak> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:36] <Josesak> hey
[20:36] <DreamDemon> ikonia, So basically what your telling me is that I should not care about the excess thats sitting on a limited machine where I need higher io for my database functions, not to mention supposedly that wont increase performance on registers with a game where thats been overly documented it does?
[20:36] <Murdock> Im trying to play some midi files from the web but cant get it to work.. anyone here who can help me?
[20:36] <Josesak> quien hay ahi
[20:36] <deshymers1> genii: huh I missed that page, I went through the customize part and I didnt see an option to add bluetooth either
[20:36] <ikonia> DreamDemon: correct
[20:36] <terje> luisgmarine: nvidia-xconfig
[20:36] <guntbert> !es | Josesak
[20:36] <DreamDemon> ikonia, So everyone else is a liar?
[20:36] <ikonia> DreamDemon: no, you're just living in a false economy
[20:36] <Josesak> wath´s your name?
[20:37] <ikonia> !topic | Josesak
[20:37] <Josesak> hello i life in spain
[20:37] <DreamDemon> ikonia, That is a contradiction if they are not a liar but I'm living in a false economy
[20:37] <Josesak> hola
[20:38] <guntbert> !es > Josesak
[20:38] <ikonia> DreamDemon: it's not,
[20:38] <Josesak> hay lguien español
[20:38] <Murdock> Im trying to play midi files from the web, bu it wont work. Anyone here who can help, please?
[20:39] <luisgmarine> terje, that doens't do anything just says it's making a copy of my x11 config
[20:39] <DreamDemon> ikonia, supporting evidence it isnt?
[20:39] <ikonia> DreamDemon: pardon ?
[20:40] <Nachturnal> Okay, first question: What's the easiest way for me to install Firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[20:40] <ikonia> Nachturnal: I advise you not to - firefox is very intergrated into the desktop
[20:40] <DreamDemon> ikonia, You've basically stated that I'm living a false economy but those others are not liars, therefore creating a contradiction without any supporting reference point
[20:40] <ikonia> Nachturnal: what do you need from 3.6 that 3.5 doesn't give you
[20:40] <DAMEXICO> download the archive from mozilla site
[20:41] <DAMEXICO> extract it and run it
[20:41] <Purpley> Hey guys my Fedora-12 torrent just finished, It has the iso a Checksum and a readme-sources, do I burn all of them to a cd?
[20:41] <ikonia> DreamDemon: no, I'm stating in certain sitautions it may increase a performance increase, but not in the case of the ubuntu box and any increase would not be worth the overhead
[20:41] <psyk> What's up #ubuntu, I need a little help. Does anybody have a chart for C variable declarations (eg. %c, %d)thanks a ton
[20:41] <Nachturnal> ikonia, I have 3.0.17. I want do stay up-to-date with Firefox releases for security purposes, and to keep up with new features.
[20:41] <ikonia> psyk: join ##c
[20:41] <ikonia> Nachturnal: what new features ?
[20:41] <psyk> ikonia, thanks, I didn't know that channel existed lol
[20:41] <Slart> Purpley: sounds like a question for a channel like #fedora, don't you think?
[20:41] <guntbert> Purpley: what has that to do wit ubuntu?
[20:42] <DAMEXICO> seriously, and personally i have not observed any difference between firefox 3.5 and firefox 3.6 on ubuntu (at least not visually)
[20:42] <guntbert> *with
[20:42] <Nachturnal> ikonia, private browsing, and whatever else they add as time goes by. I like to know what's included in programs I frequently recommend to friends/family.
[20:42] <IdleOne> Nachturnal: you can install firefox-3.5 using synaptic
[20:42] <Purpley> I didn't know there was a fedora channel either way I didn't think it was that inconvenient
[20:42] <ikonia> Nachturnal: then I suggest you trust the ubuntu developers who do back ports for security bugs
[20:42] <genii> deshymers1: Well, if there is one that it just can't understand is for Bluetooth... :  lspci | grep Bluetooth           or: lsusb | grep Bluetooth         should show it
[20:43] <ikonia> Nachturnal: they put a lot of time into making sure the packages are compatible, if you care about security you won't break the compatability work that's been put into the package on your machine and trust the ubuntu developers to update when needed
[20:43] <deshymers1> genii: cool I will give those a try then, thanks :)
[20:43] <sysdoc> Purpley, #fedora
[20:43] <Purpley> I know
[20:43] <deshymers1> genii: been reading about it for some time, pretty sure I tried those commands, but will give it another shot :)
[20:43] <meestermole> is there another IRCchannel focused more on networking in ubuntu?
[20:43] <DreamDemon> ikonia, So ubuntu server ( not desktop) is optimized for twin dual core opteron he's out of the box without any extras running and code is for lack of a better way of putting it optimized for an amd64 chipset and since all the drivers are modular ( which they arent) I dont need to worry about the impact on the sytem when I'm trying to create a high performance realtime server?
[20:43] <ikonia> meestermole: no
[20:43] <IdleOne> meestermole: #neyworking
[20:43] <genii> deshymers1: If it gives some result, you can try searching for the Vendor:Device code to see if some way to get it working
[20:43] <IdleOne> meestermole: #networking
[20:44] <Slart> Nachturnal: there is a PPA with daily builds of firefox 3.6.. make sure you understand what you're doing and be prepared to fix bugs yourself if something bad happens
[20:44] <Nachturnal> Somehow I don't think a newer version of Firefox is likely to wreck Ubuntu on my box. And if it does, then I'd rather switch to a distro that's a little more 'free'.
[20:44] <Murdock> In need some support on midi playback, anyone can help?
[20:44] <Jason_> anyone familiar with xen?
[20:44] <Nachturnal> i had the daily ppa included for a while, but i don't want alpha/beta builds
[20:44] <IdleOne> !midi | Murdock
[20:44] <ikonia> DreamDemon: ubuntu is smp read out of the box yes, there is no point optimising your kernel if things like your core c libaries are not optimised the same, and the work of doing all that will not increase the performance for you by any extent
[20:44] <deshymers1> genii: ok, thats a good idea as well, it says its enabled in the bios which is another reason why i think this netbook has it
[20:44] <ikonia> DreamDemon: sorry "ready"
[20:44] <ikonia> Jason_: yes, why ?
[20:44] <Murdock> thanks ill check it out
[20:44] <toastedmilk> daedhel, but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[20:45] <Jason_> one of my images died on me
[20:45] <DreamDemon> ikonia, Then why shouldnt I just switch to winblows since it too is 'optimized' out of the box
[20:45] <ikonia> DreamDemon: you're welcome to do so, but most common linux boxes have better through put, but it's your call (it's also called windows)
[20:45] <toastedmilk> DreamDemon, because windows sucks donkey balls
[20:45] <Jason_> i can access it...but i cant get network access or mount filesystems to dump mysql database file
[20:45] <ikonia> toastedmilk: nonsense, please odn't make wild and silly comments
[20:45] <ranjan> can any body can tell me how to disable unmount option from side pan for internal drive
[20:45] <toastedmilk> ikonia, personally against windows.
[20:45] <Tm_T> toastedmilk: watch your language there
[20:46] <ikonia> toastedmilk: then keep that to your self
[20:46] <edbian> Is there a way to set the permissions on a folder so that when files are placed inside (or created inside it) that the permissions are rw for everybody?
[20:46] <ikonia> toastedmilk: if you can't be objective - keep it to yourself
[20:46] <toastedmilk> ikonia, everything running on top of dos?  gross.
[20:46] <Slart> DreamDemon: if you're looking to hand tune your machine why not try one of the distros that is oriented towards that.. lfs, perhaps archlinux.. I don't know how gentoo is doing these days but it might be worth checking out
[20:46] <ikonia> toastedmilk: that shows how illeducated you are
[20:46] <Nachturnal> K, tried to install 3.5 from synaptic and I'm still getting 3.0.17 when I open firefox via cairodock (simply uses the command "firefox")
[20:46] <toastedmilk> ikonia, whatever you say guy.
[20:46] <guntbert> toastedmilk: thats off topic here
[20:46] <Nachturnal> do i have to use firefox-3.5 to open it?
[20:46] <toastedmilk> lol flames
[20:46] <o_be_one> sous XFCE je me demandais
[20:47] <Tm_T> Nachturnal: try and see (:
[20:47] <genii> deshymers1: The lsusb command gives Vendor:Device codes by default... to get them in the lspci command, use -nn
[20:47] <o_be_one> sorry
[20:47] <Slart> Nachturnal: installed firefox some other way at some point in the past?
[20:47] <IdleOne> Nachturnal: in the menu it will be listed as Shiretoko
[20:47] <DreamDemon> Slart, gentoo sux
[20:47] <Slart> !fr | Tm_T
[20:47] <usuario> nasco_1998@hotmail.es
[20:47] <Tm_T> Slart: pardon?
[20:47] <Slart> oops
[20:47] <usuario> nada nadaç
[20:47] <Nachturnal> oooh firefox-3.5 did work. and yes, it shows as Shiretoko.
[20:48] <danissto> hola
[20:48] <NiNE_> hi
[20:48] <deshymers1> genii: neither of those commands return anything with bluetooth
[20:48] <Slart> Tm_T: my eyes are failing me.. I think I need more coffee.. sorry =)
[20:48] <inko_> if i choose "use largest amount of free space" in ubuntu installation does install swap on its own?
[20:48] <Tm_T> Slart: or sleep (;
[20:48] <Jason_> anyone familiary with XEN?
[20:48] <ikonia> Jason_: yes, why ?
[20:48] <Slart> Tm_T: I'll try that in a while too.. =)
[20:48] <genii> deshymers1: Did you use uppercase B as in Bluetooth or lowercase b as in bluetooth ?
[20:49] <Jason_> i cant load a file system
[20:49] <Nachturnal> TY all of you. For some reason I needed my hand held today. Lack of sleep, me thinks. And yes, Slart, I've tinkered a bit and installed it from the PPA in the past. 3.5 then 3.6, then reverted to 3.0 and had trouble getting back to 3.5.  :)
[20:49] <ikonia> Jason_: you're using xen on ubuntu ???
[20:49] <danissto> hola en españool
[20:49] <deshymers1> genii: I tried both
[20:49] <Jason_> no...xen on debian
[20:49] <IdleOne> !es | danissto
[20:49] <Jason_> how do you pm on here?
[20:49] <ikonia> Jason_: then ask in #debian - this is #ubuntu
[20:49] <Slart> inko_: I think it does.. if you want I can check in my vm if you want? I have a newly installed ubuntu 9.10 in there
[20:49] <Jason_> i know...tried on debian
[20:49] <inko_> Slart, k
[20:49] <Jason_> i'm overflowed
[20:49] <danissto> hablaen spañol pliss
[20:50] <IdleOne> danissto: si, en #ubuntu-es
[20:50] <ikonia> Jason_: you need to register your nick name to use that channel
[20:50] <ikonia> !register > Jason_
[20:50] <Murdock> im trying to play a simple midi file from the web in firefox, but i get no sound. When i play a midi file from my harddrive it does play. Anyone can help?
[20:50] <Slart> inko_: yes.. it did create a swap partition for me when I did the fully guided partitioning thingy
[20:50] <genii> deshymers1: OK. So maybe the vendor didn't put that in the description line. Please pastebin result of full: lspci -nn            and: lsusb            it may have some description like "Communication Device"  etc
[20:50] <danissto> bueno boy a estudiar  chaooo
[20:50] <inko_> thanks Slart
[20:50] <luisgmarine> my resolution is stuck at a really low number and i cant change it in the nvidia settings any suggestions?
[20:51] <Slart> inko_: you're welcome
[20:53] <deshymers1> genii: http://www.pastebin.ca/1765665
[20:55] <genii> deshymers1: Yup, no bluetooth devices found. The 064e:a129 Suyin Corp is a webcam.
[20:56] <RaverWild> guys pls help: how to force update manager to delete some already downloaded packages and re-download them again?
[20:56] <deshymers1> genii: oh well, seems kind of odd that they would make it optional, thanks for your help
[20:56] <Slart> RaverWild: I don't think you can use update-manager to do it.. perhaps apt-cache autoremove/ or clean or autoclean
[20:57] <quentin> it appears you graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool <- message I get when i try to change resolution. what do you think about this?
[20:57] <Urda> QUESTION: Any idea why rebooting from Ubuntu 9.10 x64 to Windows 7 Pro x64 makes Windows 7 low rez and unable to connect to a handful of USB drivers? Only way to fix it is to power down completely and wait a minute. The Boot Loaders is the latest version of GRUB
[20:57] <freestyler> !de
[20:57] <RaverWild> Slart, thanks. gonna try now...
[20:57] <o_be_one> how to get menu bar like OSX on ubuntu ?
[20:58] <Slart> RaverWild: sorry.. it's of course    apt-get clean/autoclean/autoremove
[20:58] <_dreamy> hi, im using wine to run an APP and it ask for "Gecko" ive web searched everywhere and i used APT to search too ... how do i install gecko ? anyone helping ?
[20:58] <o_be_one> not a theme, but the menu bar at bottom, very like os x:)
[20:58] <Slart> RaverWild: I think "clean" is the one you want, according to the man page
[20:59] <sysdoc> o_be_one, Your looking for Awn
[20:59] <Jason_> is there a way to 'force mount' a file system?
[20:59] <duffydack> _dreamy, its wine-gecko
[20:59] <quentin> my computer doesn't want to keep it's resolution on reboot. how do I keep it?
[20:59] <o_be_one> sysdoc, i've already the Dock bar
[20:59] <o_be_one> sorry no menu bar at bottom but at top
[20:59] <o_be_one> (french who wants to talk english lol)
[20:59] <o_be_one> (AWN rocks :D)
[21:00] <_dreamy> duffydack: ok ill search it.. ty
[21:00] <guntbert> !enter | o_be_one
[21:00] <pershian007> hi i cant uptade ubuntu 9.10 / in update mamneger : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:00] <guntbert> pershian007: is synaptic open?
[21:00] <Callum_Laptop> pershian007: something is using APT
[21:00] <_dreamy> duffydack: do u think its on synaptics ?
[21:01] <pershian007> guntbert no
[21:01] <_dreamy> duffydack: im having troube finding it
[21:01] <guntbert> pershian007: or aptitude ?
[21:01] <quentin> nvidia won't write to xorg either.
[21:01] <RaverWild> Slart, thanks man. it worked! have a nice day!
[21:01] <pershian007> Could not download all repository indexes
[21:01] <pershian007> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[21:01] <Slart> RaverWild: you're welcome, you too
[21:01] <usuario_> tios
[21:02] <usuario_> como stamos??
[21:02] <usuario_> hola
[21:02] <duffydack> _dreamy, its in the repo
[21:02] <Slart> !es | usuario_
[21:02] <usuario_> hello
[21:02] <pershian007> pershian007 no only update-manager
[21:02] <usuario_> hello
[21:03] <Slart> !welcome | usuario_
[21:03] <pershian007> An error occurred
[21:03] <usuario_> who can tell my enithing?
[21:03] <duffydack> _dreamy, sudo apt-cache search wine-gecko      install the wine1.2 version
[21:03] <usuario_> cgh
[21:03] <pershian007> The following details are provided:
[21:03] <pershian007> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:03] <pershian007> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[21:03] <Slart> usuario_: do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[21:03] <usuario_> yes
[21:03] <Slart> usuario_: just ask it
[21:04] <usuario_> im speakin spanish
[21:04] <_dreamy> duffydack:  ok.. however i think ill have to add a new repo, because i dont have any result on "wine-gecko"
[21:04] <Slart> usuario_: then type     /join #ubuntu-es
[21:04] <quentin> nvidia won't write my chosen resolution to xorg. on reboot my resolution has reset to one that is too big. How do I get my resolution to stay on reboot
[21:04] <usuario_> holle
[21:04] <usuario_> hello
[21:05] <usuario_> im sorry bur¡t i only know spanish
[21:05] <usuario_> but i
[21:05] <duffydack> _dreamy, its in main repo
[21:06] <quentin> is there a way to just write the needed resolution in xorg to get it to stay
[21:06] <Jason_> my system says (none):
[21:06] <duffydack> _dreamy, well the multiverse, but its standard ubuntu repo
[21:07] <Audible> if i want to add a package thats in the lucid repository, how do i do it? i'm running 9.10
[21:07] <_dreamy> duffydack: well i found Wine HQ on my software sources.. i selected it ..i dont know if i done rigth, but i think ill be able to find gecko .. just a sec
[21:08] <duffydack> _dreamy, its installed it itself when its needed it, for me...
[21:08] <iceroot> Audible: backports are a good way and very important! its the safe way
[21:08] <quentin> what should i do?
[21:09] <_dreamy> duffydack: i found it.. but i had to add "wine HQ" to the software sources
[21:10] <BPX-Dev> hey guys, quicky, does anyone know, or has anyone had experiance of,: an issue that would prevent sound drivers/ sound in general working properly after a twinview configuration was successfully implemented?
[21:10] <mtaftm> hey you lot, what program is the best for using a dock i just tried simdock but its being a ******
[21:10] <_dreamy> duffydack: what apps have you  tryed running with wine ? any game s?
[21:10] <aprilhare> hello. - I activated 'Automatically remember running applications when logging out' a while back; I found it kept on running Vidalia and Skype twice when logging in, so I went back and disabled it - but it behaves the same, like the option is stuck 'on'. has anyone run across this or can recommend solution?
[21:10] <sysdoc> Karmic and vm ware server, I'm having to reinstall it again (new kernel) and can't find the posts in the forums regarding the workaround, and someone wrote a script to automate the install. Would anyone happen to have the url?
[21:10] <quentin> what should i do?
[21:11] <infid> how can i force my laptop to recognize my desktop that's on the same network? it recognizes it sometimes but not after i reboot for a while
[21:11] <axos88> Hi! I just had my filesystem corrupted (ext2). I ran e2fsck, but some of the files were deleted. They are part of the SVN server, and the MySQL server, which no longer run. They countained some pretty important data, and yeah... there was no backup (fuckin stupid, I know, but I can't do anything about it for now). Is there any way to recover these files? (should physically still exist on the drive) lost+found does not contain any relevant entries
[21:11] <mtaftm> hello anyone there?
[21:11] <hdon> how do i enable xrandr these days? i heard Xorg.conf is gone
[21:11] <iceroot> !ask | mtaftm
[21:11] <Audible> iceroot : thank you, i knew there had to be something like that
[21:11] <infid> actually it recognizes it by IP only but not by the /etc/hosts hostname sometimes
[21:11] <iceroot> !backport | Audible
[21:12] <Audible> iceroot : yeah, i found it in synaptic
[21:12] <mtaftm> i did 8-) yes so what program do you recomend for having a dock bar at the bottom ?
[21:12] <quentin> nvidia won't write my chosen resolution to xorg. on reboot my resolution has reset to one that is too big. How do I get my resolution to stay on reboot
[21:12] <iceroot> mtaftm: kooldock for kde, for gnome i dont know
[21:13] <iceroot> mtaftm: if you mean something like mac os style
[21:13] <BPX-Dev> quentin, i think ive been having the same issue, i just ran nvidia settings as sudo and it saved the config
[21:13] <Jason_> it keeps saying i must specify the file system type
[21:13] <guntbert> BPX-Dev: quentin: use gksudo not sudo
[21:14] <mtaftm> iceroot: yes
[21:14] <BPX-Dev> guntbert, thanks, noted for future reference
[21:14] <duffydack> _dreamy, I dont have winehq added and its in ubuntus repos..  ive only tried half-life2,  was a little buggy, like the flashlight didnt actually light anything up, and some textures had lighting issues...apart from that, it ran ok.  tried a few apps like photoshop and collectorz movie collector, work fine
[21:14] <Nachturnal> i assume that is for security purposes, but why gksu instead of sudo?
[21:14] <sarah31UK> k
[21:14] <duffydack> _dreamy, my experience with the wine betas, they break more than they fix
[21:14] <guntbert> BPX-Dev: :)
[21:14] <guntbert> !gksudo | Nachturnal
[21:15] <DAMEXICO_> actually i dont know if there any difference
[21:15] <DAMEXICO_> but i prefer sudo
[21:15] <guntbert> DAMEXICO_: ^^^
[21:15] <Nachturnal> ty
[21:15] <dopple> could someone please tell me how to configure my wlan adaptor to use a manually entered ip for a certain wireless network?
[21:15] <Audible> iceroot : still a no go, its only in lucid, any way to add it without upgrading to lucid?
[21:15] <DAMEXICO_> if you use gnome you can easily configure you wirelless card with the network applet
[21:16] <quentin> BPX-Dev: on gksudo of nvidia settings i get this error: Failed to parse existing X config...
[21:16] <_dreamy> duffydack: do you think that running a game with a PC with low resources(a game that generaly whouldnt run).. that wine could give me luck?
[21:16] <dopple> DAMEXICO_: ok where is that? clicking the icon for the wlan connection only lets me disconnect and connect
[21:16] <iceroot> Audible: what program?
[21:16] <_dreamy> duffydack:  i got a weak 3d card
[21:16] <BPX-Dev> quentin, sorry dude, im not in a position to help with that im afriad :(
[21:16] <duffydack> _dreamy, if it wont run native in windows dont even bother
[21:16] <dopple> DAMEXICO_: nevermind i found it
[21:17] <Audible> libdbus-c++-1-0
[21:17] <_dreamy> duffydack: ok
[21:17] <Audible> iceroot : libdbus-c++-1-0
[21:17] <guntbert> dopple: right click - select edit connections
[21:17] <mediaprodigy> anyone know ubuntu4musicians channel?
[21:17] <iceroot> !info libdbus-c++
[21:17] <Audible> its in lucid
[21:17] <jussi01> mediaprodigy: theres #ubuntustudio - which is support for Ubuntu Studio, but quite a few musicians hang in there.
[21:18] <DAMEXICO_> "dopple right-click and select edit connections
[21:18] <DAMEXICO_> "dopple the go to the wireless tab
[21:18] <quentin> BPX-Dev: is ok. I have edited the xorg.config because ubuntu won't auto detect my off brand monitor. This is probably the conflict. I just don't know how to resolve it.
[21:18] <dopple> ok i did that.. and entered in the ip address i want to use... it wont let me apply changes
[21:18] <DAMEXICO_> @dopple then click "add"
[21:18] <iceroot> !info libdbus-1-dev
[21:18] <mediaprodigy> jussi01: thanks .. two days ago someone sent a link ubuntumusicians or something like that and I have not found it since..
[21:18] <DAMEXICO_> @dopple the fill in all the parameters
[21:18] <iceroot> Audible: that?
[21:18] <dopple> doh would help if i put in netmask and gateway :/
[21:18] <Audible> iceroot : maybe that one
[21:18] <guntbert> mediaprodigy: then there is #opensourcemusicians
[21:19] <mediaprodigy> guntbert: that might be it.. hey thanks
[21:19] <_dreamy> duffydack: did you sayd the wine beta could be worse? or better ?
[21:19] <DAMEXICO_> @dopple you have to add connections name and then confim you IP addresses by pressing enter
[21:19] <guntbert> mediaprodigy: you're welcome :-)
[21:19] <prc33> Is there a way to get Java 1.6.0.16 on Karmic? Jaunty seems to have it...
[21:19] <DAMEXICO_> @dopple then try to make the connection available for all users
[21:19] <Audible> iceroot : no, i think i need the c++, its a seperate lib
[21:19] <duffydack> _dreamy, they are betas..  might be ok for you..
[21:19] <Audible> but i'll download and compile
[21:19] <quentin> rephrase of question - I have edited the xorg.config file and now my resolution won't stay on reboot. how do I get it to stay
[21:20] <Audible> who here is running Lucid ?
[21:20] <duffydack> _dreamy, for me, a prog like coverxp is broken with anything past 1.1.33
[21:20] <Audible> is it really that unstable?
[21:20] <guntbert> !lucid | Audible
[21:20] <wd4lko> GRUB 1.98 experimental, how can i get rid of the flicker when scrolling up and down the menu ?
[21:20] <duffydack> Audible, people in #ubuntu+1
[21:20] <_dreamy> duffydack: ok..
[21:20] <dopple_> got it... thanks DAMEXICO_
[21:20] <duffydack> Audible, i find it quite stable considering...
[21:20] <Audible> yeah, i expect bluescreens and feds showing up at my door
[21:20] <duffydack> Audible, well apart from fglrx wont install / work right
[21:21] <Audible> so no nvidia drivers?
[21:21] <dopple_> next question, what package gives me a vnc server instead of a vnc viewer
[21:21] <duffydack> Audible, dunno, ask in +1
[21:21] <Audible> :)
[21:21] <quentin> VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[21:21] <quentin> Undefined Device "nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 430" referenced by Screen "Default Screen". I tried to save my resolution and it didn't work. What should i do?
[21:22] <h0rnman> quentin, try adding the resolution settings manually
[21:22] <hiexpo> anyone familar with bpython
[21:22] <DAMEXICO_> @dopple i really dont know maybe you should open synaptic and search for @@
[21:22] <guntbert> !anyone | hiexpo
[21:22] <etfb> Is there a way to limit login time? I want my kids to have two hours a day of computer time, no more (otherwise we never see them!).  Can it be limited automatically by some sort of system software?
[21:23] <quentin> h0rnman: how and where in the xorg
[21:23] <jph_> I just copied a 45000 line allow list in to a rough draft of a new .htaccess file... my goal is to deny all that are not US IPs... I didn't think the allow list would be that long... am I right to think that a .htaccess file that long will cause me problems?
[21:23] <hiexpo> ok
[21:23] <dopple_> damexico: well i did that and i kept getting remote desktop, but me being a normal windows user, i assigned that to RDP and not VNC, which apparently it does both...
[21:23] <hiexpo> does anybody know how to setup bpython for pastebin
[21:24] <DAMEXICO_> WHO KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL A VNC SERVER ON UBUNTU
[21:24] <guntbert> !shout | DAMEXICO_
[21:24] <BPX-Dev> well first off the caps lock button is a bad idea
[21:24] <dopple_> DAMEXICO_:  i got it now... it is remote desktop.... like i said, i assumed that the 'Remote Desktop' package would have been RDP not
[21:24] <dopple_> VNC
[21:25] <quentin> I would like to add resolutions manually to xorg.config. I'm unsure of exactly where to insert the text, and what syntax to use. What do?
[21:26] <h0rnman> quentin, see my PM
[21:26] <saraqual> Hey guys, just a quick question, I've installed OpenVPN client on here, but for some odd reason I can't seem to apply the VPN after I've created it, any ideas?
[21:27] <IdleOne> jussi01 ping
[21:28] <jellow> With some games i can't free my mouse till i have quit , How can i make the games share the mouse or run in a virtual window?
[21:29] <schamane__> hi
[21:29] <Skint> hmmm
[21:29] <iceroot> jellow: wine?
[21:29] <Skint> can I get xchat for ubuntu
[21:30] <h0rnman> saraqual, what do you mean by ' can not apply'?
[21:30] <iceroot> Skint: sudo apt-get install xchat
[21:30] <Skint> thanx, i'm new to this :)
[21:30] <jellow> iceroot: no , Native nix apps like et
[21:32] <Skint> Once i've typed that iceroot where will xchat be for me to run it?
[21:32] <saraqual> h0rnman, well, the apply button is greyed out for some odd reason, I've entered the server address, changed the authentication to password, enterted my username and password, and buggera-all
[21:32] <iceroot> Skint: applications - internet  i guess
[21:32] <Skint> hmm, it sonly has gnome xchat there not the real xchat
[21:32] <Skint> it only*
[21:33] <rww> Skint: the "xchat" package is Xchat. the "xchat-gnome" package is Xchat Gnome.
[21:33] <rww> Skint: sudo apt-get install xchat installs real xchat.
[21:33] <saraqual> Just install it Skint, I used USC and grabbed the normal xchat, there is also a gnome version, but both is there
[21:33] <Skint> so I'll have to delete this other one first?
[21:33] <g-me> Hi all. Has anyone had experience of ldap php not binding to AD with Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:34] <Skint> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[21:34] <saraqual> h0rnman, so bud, have any ideas?
[21:34] <saraqual> Maybe I should try another VPN client quickly, be back in a bit
[21:35] <madmike> anyone know how to enable desktop scrolling in jaunty?  I tried brightside, but it doesn't work
[21:35] <Rasmussen> \ server irc.freenode.net
[21:35] <Skint> saraqual, when i typed that in terminal I got this, E: Couldn't find package xchat
[21:36] <andy_> Hey
[21:36] <Rasmussen> \server irc.freenode.net
[21:36] <rww> Rasmussen: /, not \, and you're already on Freenode.
[21:36] <iceroot> Skint: sudo apt-get install x-chat   imo
[21:36] <iceroot> !find x-chat
[21:36] <saraqual> Skint, sorry, what did you type where?
[21:37] <rww> iceroot: it's xchat, not x-chat.
[21:37] <iceroot> rww: ah ok
[21:37] <Skint> in the terminal saraqual
[21:37] <Skint> iceroot, it's what i typed
[21:37] <hiexpo> iceroot: - lol
[21:37] <madmike> anyone know how to enable desktop scrolling in karmic?  I tried brightside, but it doesn't work
[21:37] <iceroot> Skint: first i said sudo apt-get install xchat  and you said, package not found
[21:37] <hiexpo> imo
[21:38] <Skint> both say
[21:38] <Skint> it's not found
[21:38] <CAPcap> whats the wine channel?
[21:38] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install xchat
[21:38] <IdleOne> #winehq
[21:38] <saraqual> sudo apt-get install x-chat works fine and dandy here on my side
[21:39] <CAPcap> thanks
[21:39] <IdleOne> welcome
[21:39] <CAPcap> i can never remember if it has a dash in it or not
[21:39] <andy_> I'm Dual Booting BT4 and Ubuntu netbook remix on this netbook, it's going real fast, So I deleted every trace of windows OS =p
[21:40] <koshari> madmike what scrooling effect are you after
[21:40] <Skint> hmmmm
[21:40] <Skint> i wonder
[21:41] <IdleOne> Skint: the packages are xchat-common or xchat-gnome. I prefer xchat-common
[21:41] <saraqual> iceroot, sorry to bug with this, but whenever I browse to my ntfs partions via the places main menu it creates a icon on the desktop, any way I can turn that off?
[21:41] <rww> Skint: did you just install Ubuntu?
[21:41] <saraqual> heh, sounds like me and skint are in the same boat here :)
[21:42] <iceroot> saraqual: dont know, i am not using it
[21:42] <hiexpo> Skint: - look copy this sudo apt-get install xchat      \    and paste it in the terminal abd than hit enter
[21:42] <rww> IdleOne: xchat-common is not a client, it's the shared resources for the various xchats.
[21:42] <CAPcap> how do install flash for iexlplore in wine?
[21:42] <Skint> rww, yeah
[21:42] <saraqual> iceroot, what are you using then to browse the different resources on the pc?
[21:43] <rww> Skint: Have you done "sudo apt-get update" yet? If not, that would be a good start.
[21:43] <iceroot> saraqual: shell
[21:43] <rww> Skint: (and then "sudo apt-get install xchat" should work)
[21:43] <Skint> rww, i had done it yeah thats how I got ubuntu xchat
[21:43] <saraqual> heh, righty, I'll get there in a bit
[21:43] <IdleOne> rww: right, ok so xchat or xchat-gnome
[21:43] <rww> !info xchat
[21:44] <rww> Skint: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[21:44] <c_knayar> building the platform packages with -a armel option gives me configure: error: Cannot autodetect architecture in cross compile environment Use --with-arch=ARCH to specify architecture
[21:44] <Skint> rww, not sure it's my first time with any sort of linux
[21:44] <usacomputertec> hello all. I need to understand dbus. According to what I've witnessed and understand about .dbus it has some impact on the display :0 for each session. What I don't understand is where these settings are for screen resolution. Please let me know if any of you know where to look or what IRC chat to get in. Is there a Gnome IRC?
[21:45] <iceroot> usacomputertec: #gnome
[21:45] <mkjackson1> hey folks, I've been noticing that my music players tend to slow down then just start bugging out (running Karmic fully updated fyi) so I'm curious if there's anything that could be happening with rhythmbox/banshee in the new distros
[21:45] <rww> Skint: System -> Administration -> Software Sources, see if "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)" is checked.
[21:45] <mkjackson1> or could it be the new audio ssytem?
[21:45] <madmike> koshari:  I just want to scroll desktops using the mouse, instead of keyboard, or actually clicking in the little desktopswitcher
[21:45] <Skint> no it was not
[21:46] <arand> usacomputertec: there is GimpNet irc.gnome.org.
[21:46] <duffydack> madmike, viewport switcher
[21:46] <rww> Skint: check it, press close, press reload, try installing xchat again.
[21:46] <koshari> if you install compiz you can use the mouse scroller to change veiwports
[21:46] <IdleOne> Skint: while you are there check off multiverse also
[21:46] <hiexpo> he 'll never make it
[21:46] <Purpley> Im trying to create a live cd but the default burner I believe brasero isn't working it just burned me a data cd How do i burn a live cd?
[21:46] <madmike> duffydack:  in compizconfig?  I can't find it.  Do I have to install it?
[21:46] <koshari> madmike if you install compiz you can use the mouse scroller to change veiwports
[21:47] <quentin> i'm back from trying to edit my xorg.config 1440x900 is what i chose for my only resolution. it didn't stay on reboot. wtf
[21:47] <duffydack> madmike,  I`m scale/expo/desktop wall all mouse only :)
[21:47] <Skint> IdleOne, will do
[21:47] <pyrophelia> who and whowatch let me see users that are connected via ssh, but is there any way I can see users who are connected using different protocols? such as afp,sftp?
[21:47] <Skint> rww, it's downloading stuff now
[21:47] <gareth|pos> hey all, i got a laptop here with a wireless issue, it sees the hardware, but cannot see wifi networks, WiFi is non enableable from gnome network manager.. I belive it's broadcom
[21:47] <madmike> koshari: can I just install compiz from synaptic?  Will I have to configure anything to allow compiz to work?
[21:47] <Skint> ahh right now it's working rww TYVM!
[21:47] <duffydack> madmike, its already there for me..
[21:47] <rww> Skint: glad I could help :)
[21:47] <madmike> duffydack:  I have no idea what you just said
[21:48] <duffydack> madmike, try installing compiz-plugins-extra
[21:48] <Skint> now, i'll brb on real xchat :)
[21:48] <koshari> madmike you can install compiz from synaptic, and use compiz settings manager to change the settings
[21:48] <]tomppa[> Is the following possible? Windows installed in  ide-hdd-1 and ubuntu 910 installed in ide-hd-2 with grub2. Both have been installed when the ide-hdd was in master1. I would like to make the Linux disk master1 and the windows disk slave1.
[21:48] <duffydack> madmike, I use scale plugin, expo plugin and viewport switching all with mouse, no keys
[21:48] <madmike> duffydack:  I don't have anything for compiz anywhere, even in terminal, I type "compiz" and try to tab-complete, and nothing comes up
[21:48] <gareth|pos> the installation was done with ethernet connected.. if that mkaes a difference
[21:48] <quentin> Modes		"1440x900_75.00" <-- this line  in xorg.conf does not keep my resolution on reboot
[21:48] <duffydack> !compiz
[21:48] <hiexpo> when getting compiz you also need simple compiz also
[21:48] <madmike> duffydack:  gotcha
[21:49] <koshari> madmike the scale plugin daffy speaks of is VERY handy
[21:49] <duffydack> !ccsm
[21:49] <mkjackson1> hey folks, is there a way to check to see that audio engine is working OK?
[21:49] <infid> is there a command that can tell me all the IPs or hostnames of computers on my LAN?
[21:49] <koshari> mkjackson1 open a volume meter?
[21:49] <mkjackson1> I got a feeling that the only reason Banshee/Rhythmbox are funky for me is because of the audio engine
[21:49] <andy_> No idea tomppa but in any case, when trying to make Ubuntu dualboot with BT4, I had quiet alot of troubles, especially with Backtrack messing up the partition resize, so had to install Backtrack over the entire PC then let ubuntu install and do the resize itself
[21:50] <mguy> infid: scan your LAN with nmap
[21:50] <mkjackson1> I hear sound OK but over time music playing app just starts to act strange and locks up
[21:50] <CAPcap> how would i install flash player for iexplore in wine?
[21:50] <hiexpo> probally cause mine work great
[21:50] <madmike> duffydack:  synaptic says I already have compiz and compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[21:50] <quentin> my screen resolution now fits on reboot, but is now to small
[21:50] <pyrophelia> did the deb cannel get taken over? I can't join
[21:50] <IdleOne> CAPcap: that is a question for #winehq
[21:50] <quentin> too small
[21:50] <duffydack> madmike, install compizconfig-settings-manager then
[21:51] <hiexpo> you still need to install simple compiz
[21:51] <CAPcap> idleone winehq wont let me talk
[21:51] <duffydack> madmike, and access thru system/prefs
[21:51] <infid> mguy: how? nmap "192.168.x.*"?
[21:51] <mguy> nmap -?
[21:51] <hiexpo> for things to work right
[21:51] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap: try downloading the win32 package from adobe
[21:51] <mguy> 192.168.1.1-254
[21:52] <IdleOne> CAPcap: what do you mean it won't let you talk?
[21:52] <CAPcap> kickassmixernerd how would i do that?
[21:52] <madmike> duffydack:  just installed, its showing up in pref/ now
[21:52] <CAPcap> idleone it says i need to register and to identify with nickserv. this is a registered nick tho
[21:52] <madmike> duffydack:  thanks, I'll search around now
[21:52] <iceroot> CAPcap: why using internet-explorer + flash in wine?
[21:52] <IdleOne> CAPcap: have you identified?
[21:53] <CAPcap> idleone what do you mean?
[21:53] <IdleOne> CAPcap: /msg nickserv identify password-you-chose
[21:53] <elaina> I'm having a problem: earlier, I was able to play videos on Youtube and other sites. But now, for some reason, they simply won't show up anymore. What should I do?
[21:53] <madmike> duffydack:  holy crap, there's a lot of options, it'll take me a while to play with it, thanks again, you too koshari
[21:53] <quentin> how do i get xorg.conf to control my resolution on reboot? i have edited it and my resolution still appears different
[21:53] <hiexpo> check your addons in firefox
[21:53] <h0rnman> quentin, LCD or CRT monitor?
[21:54] <CAPcap> ok now its letting me talk. its never done that before...
[21:54] <quentin> h0rnman: LCD
[21:54] <h0rnman> quentin, did you manually set resolutions in your xorg.conf file?
[21:54] <duffydack> madmike,  utilising screen edges in mouse bindings = godsend
[21:54] <quentin> h0rnman: yes
[21:54] <koshari> madmike compiz is very customisable, advanced things like having specific windows always open in an exact spot in exact size are handy as well
[21:55] <h0rnman> quentin, did you make sure to specify the correct resolution AND refresh rate (aka 1280x1024@60)
[21:55] <Geoffrey2> is there a PPA available to get the latest version of Firefox?
[21:55] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap: Go To http://adobe.com/flashplayer
[21:55] <IdleOne> CAPcap: each time you connect to freenode you should identify to nickserv so you don't have that problem again. in xchat you can set to auto-identify in the network list
[21:56] <kickassmixernerd> Geoffrey2: No, You Have to use the app Ubuntuzilla
[21:56] <CAPcap> kickassmixernerd then what?
[21:56] <Geoffrey2> I am presuming that FF 3.6 wouldn't be placed in the repositories because it's not a bug fix....
[21:57] <IdleOne> Geoffrey2: correct
[21:57] <gerzel> I want to set a new drive to mount automatically what do I do?  fstab or is there an ubuntu way to do it?
[21:57] <quentin> h0rnman: 1280x1024@60 <- is that literal? my edits don't look like that, but yes i have the correct refresh rate and such(i hope)
[21:57] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap: hold on 1 sec
[21:57] <gerzel> And where if the file found?
[21:58] <erUSUL> !fstab > gerzel
[21:58] <gareth|pos> hey all, i got a laptop here with a wireless issue, it sees the hardware, but cannot see wifi networks, WiFi is non enableable from gnome network manager..
[21:59] <gareth|pos> the installation was done with ethernet connected.
[21:59] <macman_> hey all .. if mplayer fails to rip a dvd .. what do you guys normally use after that ?
[21:59] <quentin> h0rnman: HorizSync	30-82	VertreFresh	56-76 <- xorg settings
[21:59] <Geoffrey2> ah, except I'm using the 64 bit version of ubuntu, and Mozilla doesn't release 64 bit packages....
[22:00] <h0rnman> more or less, yes, they should looks like that...something like:       Modes: "1280x1024@60"
[22:01] <quentin> h0rnman: SubSection "Display" Depth 24	Modes	"1440x900_75.00" <- more xorg settings
[22:01] <saraqual> Haven't gotten around to the VPN thing, will do that tomorrow, but, hehehe, more importantly, I need to get the tunes up and running, way to quiet, I remember a friend saying XMMS has the same look and feel as Winamp, is that still so or is there something else I can use?
[22:01] <axisys> anyone here used vserver?
[22:01] <axisys> linuxe-vserver that is
[22:01] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap:Click on Different Operating System Or Browser
[22:01] <axisys> linux-vserver*
[22:01] <CAPcap> kickassmixernerd i already got it. thanks though :)
[22:01] <h0rnman> saraqual, the only thing I can see that might fix VPN for you is to run it with gksudo
[22:01] <acicula> saraqual: rythmbox and totem are the defaults, but there are to many to choose from really
[22:02] <CAPcap> didnt work btw.
[22:02] <acicula> *too
[22:02] <h0rnman> you can also install XMMS, but you have to add custom repos for that
[22:02] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap: >:|
[22:02] <CAPcap> kickassmixernerd what?
[22:02] <pyrophelia> how do I moniter sftp users and current transfers?
[22:02] <h0rnman> quentin, try making it Modes "1440x900@75" or "1440x900@60"
[22:03] <acicula> pyrophelia: ps ?, doesnt tell you that much though
[22:03] <kickassmixernerd> CAPcap: How it didn't work
[22:03] <quentin> h0rnman: ok I'll try that. thanks.
[22:03] <saraqual> shot, thanks h0rnman , acicula
[22:03] <CAPcap> nah its cool. not a big deal. i was hoping to fool nbc's site into letting me watch videos, but i'll just catch them on hulu instead
[22:03] <saraqual> Going to try that just now
[22:04] <Chocorua> whats a good chess game?
[22:04] <Chocorua> for ubuntu
[22:04] <kickassmixernerd> Chocorua: GNU Chess
[22:04] <garo> gnuchess
[22:04] <CAPcap> theres one installed by default chocorua
[22:04] <Chocorua> can you play online through it?
[22:04] <garo> all the others are just frontends for gnuchess
[22:05] <pyrophelia> acicula, it 'worksm but I would like something with more detail. I want to see exactly who is connected, what they are downloading/uploading and their current bandwidth usage
[22:05] <Geoffrey2> I'm beginning to think sticking with the 32 bit version of Ubuntu would have been the better idea.....
[22:05] <acicula> pyrophelia: not sure if thats possible with sftp
[22:05] <Chocorua> alright
[22:05] <Chocorua> i got it
[22:05] <koshari> Geoffrey2 64bit working fine here
[22:05] <Chocorua> who wants to play?
[22:05] <kickassmixernerd> Chocorua: I'll play
[22:05] <Kashuya> I'm having trouble setting up a VPN Client in 9.10 to connect to a microsoft network. I can get it working in Win7 just can't get it working in 9.10 at all though. Anyone able to help me out at all please?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:05] <acicula> pyrophelia: at least i dont think you can query the sftp-daemon for such parameters so you'd have to deduce them through some other means
[22:05] <pyrophelia> acicula, wow, really?
[22:05] <Chocorua> whats your nickname>?
[22:06] <Geoffrey2> koshari, it works, I'm just not sure what I gained...and the 64 bit version of flash is still VERY alpha, and it shows....
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | Kashuya
[22:06] <erUSUL> pyrophelia: watching the ftp daemon log ?
[22:06] <mrow_> internal speakers dont stop when plugging in headphones, any ideas ?
[22:06] <kickassmixernerd> don't have one yet, Custom????
[22:06] <quentin> h0rnman: you still there? tried it with the @ and still went to a smaller resolution
[22:07] <pyrophelia> er
[22:07] <kickassmixernerd> Chocorua:Could try a custom??
[22:07] <mrow_> hello,  internal speakers dont stop when plugging in headphones, any ideas ?
[22:07] <Chocorua> how does that work?
[22:07] <duffer> Anyone know how to configure ICE1712[Envy24] soundcard? The input section is working, but no Outputs are showing in Sound Preferences
[22:07] <infid> mguy: i found it: nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24
[22:07] <Kashuya> ActionParsnip: Thanks, already got pptp and the gui frontend bit working. But it just won't authenticate and I can't work out why. Even from a pptpsetup command line
[22:07] <h0rnman> quentin, define "smaller"
[22:07] <pyrophelia> erUSUL: ftp log, this is sftp, not ftp.
[22:07] <pyrophelia> s/,/)
[22:08] <wdhhiscock> Hi my awn manager wont run, anyone got any ideas?
[22:08] <pyrophelia> ?
[22:08] <acicula> pyrophelia: well sftp will log an entry in syslog or auth log
[22:08] <pyrophelia> hmm
[22:08] <mrow_>  internal speakers dont stop when plugging in headphones, any ideas ?
[22:08] <kickassmixernerd> Chocorua: Go to Game->Network Game
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Kashuya, if its a cisco connection you can use the cisco vpn client
[22:08] <acicula> pyrophelia: but that is about it i suppose, its not really designed to be monitored like an ftp server?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> wdhhiscock,does compiz run?
[22:08] <caks79> sta ve ima?
[22:08] <mrow_> hello,  internal speakers dont stop when plugging in headphones, any ideas ?
[22:08] <quentin> h0rnman: smaller number for pixels 100x50 -> 50x25 just for example
[22:09] <wdhhiscock> yeah compiz is running
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> wdhhiscock,awn needs compiz to be running
[22:09] <acicula> pyrophelia: you could watch what files are created/modified/grown from outside the sftp daemon
[22:09] <quentin> h0rnman: everything looks big in other words
[22:09] <caks79> srbija
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> wdhhiscock, then launch it from a terminal, the outputs will hel pdiagnose
[22:09] <wng-> Do Ubuntu Server CD's have a rescue option?
[22:09] <mrow_> caks79: zz buraz
[22:09] <acicula> pyrophelia: mind you an sftp daemon is not jailed in anyway, so a user can write where ever the user(group) has permissions
[22:09] <mrow_> wng-: you mean recovery?
[22:10] <h0rnman> quentin, is your refresh rate 75 or 60?
[22:10] <caks79> zdravo brate
[22:10] <wng-> mrow_: I mean rescue, like most linux distros have, you boot with the option 'linux rescue'
[22:10] <Chocorua> kickassmixernerd are you connected to FICS?
, sorry im new to ubtuntu, how can i run awn from the terminal?
[22:10] <kickassmixernerd> Chocorua: What's FICS
[22:10] <quentin> h0rnman: it's set at 75
[22:11] <Chocorua> i just found it opensource chess network
[22:11] <h0rnman> try setting it to 60...some monitors are more compatible with that
[22:11] <quentin> h0rnman: when I was using intrepid my settings worked. Now on karmic they don't
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> wdhhiscock, type: avant-window-manager   in terminal and press enter, just like any other terminal account
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> wdhhiscock,you can tab complaete the command to make it faster
[22:11] <h0rnman> if that fails, backup your xorg.conf file and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:12] <mrow__> caks79: zdravo, molim te prvo pishi nick na kome se obrachash :D
[22:12] <Chocorua> kickassmixernerd, you need to get one of these clients: http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Download/FICS_Download_Interface.cgi
[22:12] <mrow__> hello, internal speakers wont stop when plugging in headphones?
[22:12] <mrow__> any help>
[22:12] <Chocorua> kickassmixernerd im using eboard
[22:12] <acicula> !english | mrow__ , caks79
[22:13] <quentin> h0rnman: i will try 60.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mrow__,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=956945
[22:13] <gareth|pos> if one were to have to dpkg --reconfigure -a on a system after removing the internet, how would i cache the packages first?
[22:13] <mrow__> actionparsnip: is this for my issue?
 sorry i must be being really stupid, terminal says command not found
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mrow__,i wouldnt have directed it at you if it wasn't...
[22:14] <mrow__> actionparnip: tnx, silly me
[22:14] <mrow__> actionparsnip, looking at it as i type
[22:14] <Euthanatos> is 'RECORD' enabled in the LiveCD compilation of X11 in Ubuntu?
[22:15] <acicula> gareth|pos: you'd have to convict apt-get to fetch the packages
[22:15] <acicula> *convince
[22:15] <dinosaurvskitten> has anyone else noticed Skype's main process having file handles open to files that it shouldn't really be looking at? (random files in ~)
[22:15] <Welshy-Rob> zattoo anyone?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Euthanatos, you can upgrade the X11 using PPA if the system doesnt suit your needs
[22:16] <popey> Welshy-Rob: you want seesaw :) http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jan/25/seesaw-online-tv-test-launch
[22:16] <quentin> h0rnman: ? I tried 60 and didn't work.
[22:16] <h0rnman> did anything change?
[22:17] <Kashuya> ActionParsnip: I managed to get VPN working thanks, had to get the right combination of settings. However I can't ping a machine on the network or resolve any. However I do have valid client/server IP's based on previous connections
[22:17] <quentin> h0rnman: not that I can tell
[22:17] <h0rnman> ok...try the other command I threw at you....it may be that some driver or other dependancy changed when you upgraded and X needs to be kicked
[22:17] <mrow__> actionparsnip: this is for older ubuntu releases, need to mention, i am using xubuntu karmic amd64
[22:18] <acicula> Kashuya: try setting the routing option in the vpn settings to ignore the automatic routes and use it for nodes on the vpn network only. that should force it to set up routing tables for ips on the vpn
[22:18] <Euthanatos> ActionParsnip, hmm seems it might just be easier to recompile X11 in slackwhere, which is what I regularly use.  Was just looking for an easier way to record some macros in Xnee
[22:18] <quentin> h0rnman: if i use auto config and if i can't see anything on my monitor how do i edit xorg.conf or use my backup to get back to usability
[22:18] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'd like to upgrade Firefox to 3.6, however ubuntuzilla only has 32 bit releases, and I'm using the 64 bit version of Karmic...ubuntuzilla is pointing me at the Ubuntu Mozilla Daily PPA..is that a good option?
[22:18] <saraqual> h0rnman, shot man, came right with the VPN connection, it was OpenVPN, using normal PPTP now and it's grafting like a charm
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> mrow__,: it will be pretty much the same
[22:19] <acicula> Geoffrey2: its also in karmic-backports afaik
[22:19] <h0rnman> when GDM shows, go OPTIONS --> Change Session to change to a failsafe terminal, then do it from the command line
[22:19] <Euthanatos> I'm not familiar with PPA maybe you can refer me to some documentation ActionParsnip ?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2, the mozilla ppa is gopod if you want the latest stuff
[22:19] <mrow__> actionparsnip: ok, tnx will try these thoroughly, will come up with update, tnx
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Euthanatos
[22:20] <quentin> h0rnman: i'm a little dense on understanding how to edit a file when I can't see it
[22:20] <Euthanatos> thank you =)
[22:21] <Welshy-Rob> popey, anything about zatto coming to linux?
[22:21] <h0rnman> quentin, before you do a reconfigure, do:  "sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup", and if you need to restore the file, just do "sudo rm xorg.conf" followed by "sudo mv xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf"
[22:21] <quentin> h0rnman: i usually use my girlfriends monitor to edit the xorg.conf. since she's not here I'm lost to a blank screen if i use the command you gave me (maybe)
[22:21] <mamooli> is it possible to retrieve shift deleted files in ubuntu?
[22:21] <popey> Welshy-Rob: zattoo used to be on linux, they quit
[22:22] <acicula> !undelete
[22:22] <BAiNE> Please Help! I changed the ownership of /etc to myself instead of root so I could place my xorg.conf file in the folder. How can I change the ownership back to root?  I can no longer use "sudo". When I try, it says "/etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0".....
[22:22] <quentin> h0rnman: should i just write those commands blind
[22:23] <acicula> mamooli: not really, unless you consider using forensic tools to recover files
[22:23] <h0rnman> i wouldnt
[22:23] <Kashuya> acicula: I ticked both of those boxes but still can't ping a machine I know exists :(
[22:23] <Welshy-Rob> popey, how come linux is the best !
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> BAiNE,you will need to boot to root recovery console to get yourself out of the mess you made
[22:23] <acicula> BAiNE: boot a livecd ?
[22:23] <popey> Welshy-Rob: tell them that
[22:23] <mamooli> acicula: it's really neccarry for me
[22:23] <popey> Welshy-Rob: I already know this
[22:24] <erUSUL> BAiNE: reinstall ||  chown -R or chmod -R 777 is never the right answer
[22:24] <h0rnman> quentin, have you tried the dpkg-reconfigure method before?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> BAiNE,you can use sudo to make or edit the xorg file, setting your username to the owner of /etc is a REALLY REALLY *BAD* idea
[22:24] <BAiNE> ahhh!
[22:24] <BAiNE> will I have to re-install the entire system?
[22:25] <acicula> mamooli: well the links posted give some pointers, but it requires some expertise
[22:25] <shane2peru> anyone do data recovery from ntfs disk?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> BAiNE,next time, just use sudo or gksudo to get write access to the folder or you will bork your system
[22:25] <acicula> !undelete | shane2peru
[22:25] <saraqual> righty, I am off, thanks guys
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> shane2peru,restore from backup is by FAR the easist
[22:25] <mamooli> acicula: i am a newbie, there really is no way?
[22:25] <duckx0r> can anyone do me a favor and tell me if my site is taking an extremely long time to load (i.e. 30+ seconds) https://secure.adventure-inn.com
[22:25] <shane2peru> ActionParsnip, yes, but this one isn't mine, it is for a friend, backup backup backup, that is my sermon
[22:26] <shane2peru> acicula, thanks
[22:26] <acicula> mamooli: look at the links, it sometimes is possible, if it really is important turn of the machine, unplug the disk, back it up and take it to someone with some computer skills
[22:26] <saraqual> duckx0r, 8 seconds, I am sitting in South Africa
[22:26] <saraqual> so fairly decent
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> shane2peru, ou can use foremost to recover files, tell your friend to get a backup regime and why its a really good idea
[22:26] <dansku> how do I convert a .avi to .mpg or .mov in ubuntu using the terminal???
[22:26] <mamooli> acicula: i am a great dumb ass
[22:27] <duckx0r> saraqual, thanks. guess it's not that bad. must be something here
[22:27] <saraqual> any case, I am off, cheerio lads, ta for all the help tonight
[22:27] <BAiNE> ActionParsnip: will I have to re-install ubuntu? or is there a way to recover from my mistake?
[22:27] <erUSUL> dansku: try ffmpeg -i file.avi file.mpeg
[22:27] <dansku> k, thanks
[22:27] <shane2peru> ActionParsnip, I think he has probably learned to backup, ;)  it usually only takes one hdd crash to become a backup fanatic
[22:28] <saraqual|away> er, that sara nick might prompt some unwanted horny males to bug me :D
[22:28] <erUSUL> BAiNE: i just checked if you only changed the owner you can fix it fairly easily from recovery mode
[22:28] <quentin> h0rnman: my backup command gives me this -> missing destination file operand after `xorg.conf.backup'
[22:28] <BAiNE> erUSUL: how do I get into recovery mode?
[22:28] <BAiNE> sorry I'm a bit new
[22:28] <h0rnman> mrmph?
[22:28] <mattroyal> Does anyone have a moment to help me with the package system?
[22:29] <quentin> h0rnman: never mind. I wrote it wrong
[22:29] <stopmv> hi how to enable compiz snow plugin the unoffical plugins not available in the synaptic
[22:29] <h0rnman> quentin,  "cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup"?
[22:29] <erUSUL> BAiNE: what was the exact command you issued ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> shane2peru, its just a smart move, i work in computing a know the value of backup. some people need to get burned to realise
[22:29] <acicula> mattroyal: best to just ask your question
[22:29] <mattroyal> acicula: Thanks...
[22:29] <BAiNE> erUSUL: chown -R ubuntu /etc/
[22:29] <shane2peru> ActionParsnip, agreed!
[22:29] <quentin> h0rnman: i left out the original xorg.conf
[22:29] <acicula> !backup
[22:30] <BAiNE> erUSUL: sudo chown -R ubuntu /etc/
[22:30] <mattroyal> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 and trying to upgrade from Ruby 1.8.6 to Ruby 1.8.7.  Looking at this page http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty-updates/ruby1.8, it looks like 1.8.7 should be the default, but yet I can't seem to update to it.
[22:30] <mattroyal> I run "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install ruby1.8" and it says it already has the most recent version.
[22:30] <Kashuya> I'm connected to a VPN, however I can't ping a machine on the network, and no other machine can ping mine either
[22:30] <erUSUL> BAiNE: ok; boot into recovery mode (in the grub menu); choose "drop to a root shell" and execute « chown -R root /etc/ »
[22:30] <duckx0r> BAiNE, why would you chown your /etc/ directory?
[22:31] <acicula> mattroyal: apt-cache policy <pacakgename> will show you the current installed versions and installation candidates,if any
[22:32] <BAiNE> duckx0r: because I'm half retarded :)
[22:32] <duckx0r> BAiNE, yeah i've been there :P
[22:32] <mattroyal> acicula: I get this output http://pastie.org/794283
[22:32] <erUSUL> BAiNE: then come back here
[22:32] <BAiNE> erUSUL: thanks!  I'm gonna try that now.....
[22:33] <acicula> mattroyal:  Package pin: 1.8.6.111-2ubuntu1
[22:34] <mattroyal> acicula: But I notice it lists 1.8.7, too.  I didn't set up this box, so I'm not sure how it was configured.  Is there a way to unpin that version?
[22:34] <acicula> mattroyal: its pinned at that version, remove the pin and try to update again?
[22:34] <acicula> !pinning
[22:34] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, when do iwlist scan the belkin usb adapter sees my neughbours Belkin roter as the number one access point , and my 2wire which gets a much better signal as the secondary...there's gotta be away to change the order . the adpter tries to connect to the neighbour's belkin even though it's only at 10% of my 2wire's signal. Can I blacklisthe neibour's router somehow ?
[22:34] <teage> Please anyone! Please go to your applications and right click, edit, system tools, and give me the command for root terminal. Please.
[22:34] <teage> I have deleted it
[22:34] <erUSUL> teage: gksudo gnome-terminal
[22:34] <teage> opps
[22:35] <teage> erUSUL: thank you
[22:35] <mattroyal> acicula ubottu: Thank you both... you've saved me a lot of frustration
[22:35] <acicula> mattroyal: np, glad the bot knows all the right links
[22:36] <quentin> h0rnman: what was the reconfigure supposed to do? xorg.conf hasn't any changes
[22:37] <h0rnman> it's an attempt to force X to strip out any special cases it may have for your machine...deleting xorg.conf would /probably/ do the same thing, but I have neve been brave enough to try that
[22:37] <saviorfromthenor> hello
[22:37] <Welshy-Rob> saviorfromthenor, hi
[22:38] <h0rnman> quentin, if that doesn't work, you may just need to backup your system and roll back to 9.04.  I have had problems from time to time with upgrading breaking my video drivers, especially for an integrated card
[22:38] <Kashuya> Is it normal for "route" to return a blank table after vpn'ing?
[22:38] <trey_> whats the name of that applet in dsl
[22:38] <trey_> it has all system info in it
[22:39] <quentin> h0rnman: ah darn it. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that
[22:39] <trey_> allways on the top right
[22:39] <trey_> does any one know
[22:39] <songer> hello
[22:39] <quentin> h0rnman: I can set the resolution through the nvidia configuration, but only for one login. Then it resets.
[22:40] <DirtyDrag0n> Howdy folks... Anyone have any info on how I might get DisplayPort working on an ATI card in 9.10 ?
[22:40] <h0rnman> did you try running the nvidia config panel with gksudo?
[22:40] <mattroyal> acicula: I tried what the wiki suggests to unpin (echo ruby1.8 install | dpkg --set-selections), but it's still showing up as pinned in apt-cache and it still won't upgrade
[22:40] <saviorfromthenor> irc://ubuntu/Welshy-Rob,thanks
[22:41] <quentin> h0rnman: i already tried gksudo on that panel. didn't work
[22:41] <trey_> any one
[22:41] <h0rnman> quentin, does the nvidia panel have a way to set res via the command line?
[22:41] <BAiNE> erUSUL: thank you so much!  worked like a charm. Whew! I will be using gksudo or sudo from now on......
[22:42] <dansku> how do I convert a .avi to .mpg or .mov in ubuntu using the terminal???
[22:42] <trey_> i smoke weed so i got all day
[22:42] <erUSUL> BAiNE: not so quick thare are files in etc that needs fixing... « sudo chown couchdb:couchdb /etc/couchdb/ »
[22:43] <quentin> h0rnman: don't know
[22:43] <shane2peru> ok, how do I keep gnome from automounting usb disk?
[22:44] <shane2peru> used to be in the System menu some option to do this, I forget what it is?
[22:44] <BAiNE> erUSUL: tells me "couchdb" is an invalid user....
[22:44] <quentin> h0rnman: I have output from running nvidia-settings ->Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[22:44] <quentin> Undefined Device "nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 430" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[22:44] <trey_> anyone  dsl.applet.top right of desktop.system info
[22:44] <iflema> trey_ gkrellm
[22:44] <trey_> thank you
[22:45] <erUSUL> BAiNE: then nevermind; XD
[22:45] <iflema> trey_ look @ conky gay but fun 4 a while
[22:45] <quentin> i tried to write to xorg.conf and nvidia-settings closed and got error
[22:45] <rizitis> dansku, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-create-video-dvds.html
[22:46] <mattroyal> acicula: Nevermind, I figured it out... had to edit /etc/apt/preferences.  Thanks again
[22:46] <magik_> Anyone around here might be able to help me with some dns resolution problems?
[22:47] <macman_> does anyone use a command line tool to rip dvd's besides mplayer / dvdbackup .. if so does it rip encrypted dvds
[22:47] <happy> magik_: ask a specific question. Include info like what dns server you are using
[22:47] <magik_> I can't seem to "dig" anything... even when specifying the the DNS server using @ - such as dig google.com @4.2.2.2
[22:47] <DreamDemon|compi> macman_, I dont know about command line but dvd:RIP does pretty well
[22:47] <dansku> bit I want to convert using ffmpeg
[22:47] <happy> magik_: do you host the dns server?
[22:47] <h0rnman> quentin, In xorg.conf, the system uses those labels to keep everything straight.  Seciotn DEVICE, MONITOR, and SCREN should all have the same IDENTIFIER string
[22:48] <happy> magik_: pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf
[22:48] <terje> dig @4.4.2.2 google.com
[22:48] <trey_> iflema tryd it i just needed something basic
[22:48] <magik_> i dont believe so
[22:48] <h0rnman> if they don't that may be why you're having a problem
[22:48] <magik_> i've tried adding the nameservers to resolv - i have dnsmsaq on my tomator router
[22:48] <fluxy> Hello. Could anyone please tell me where I can find bittorrent download for ubuntu netbook remix?
[22:48] <magik_> *tomato router - and i've had the DHCP on the router tells my dhcp client to use 192.168.1.1
[22:48] <solifugus> #firefox
[22:48] <quentin> h0rnman: does this mean the system can't see what it needs to do if those are different
[22:48] <happy> !remix | fluxy
[22:49] <terje> well, I dont' actually know what 4.2.2.2 is but one of Google's name servers is 8.8.8.8 so to use dig, you would run: dig @8.8.8.8 google.com
[22:49] <magik_> network-manager currently configures my resolv.conf to use "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[22:49] <happy> !netbook | fluxy
[22:49] <magik_> 4.2.2.2 - is level3's nameserver
[22:49] <happy> hm
[22:49] <magik_> i've tried 8.8.8.8 w/ the dig and it doesn't work
[22:49] <magik_> but  i can ping 8.8.8.8
[22:49] <h0rnman> quentin, essentially, you end up with one or more orphaned identifiers, and one or more incomplete entries
[22:49] <fluxy> happy: umm?
[22:50] <happy> fluxy: I expected ubottu to know :-\
[22:50] <Pici> !unr
[22:50] <happy> fluxy: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download-netbook
[22:50] <magik_> just tried "dig @8.8.8.8 google.com" and it says: http://pastebin.org/82324
[22:51] <fluxy> happy: the get download page does not have bittorrent
[22:51] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, looks like the bot was just being slow - lol
[22:51] <Subby> Hi! How to append a string on a bash-variable, like file="myfile"  --> $fileiscool  <-- doesn't work because interpreter looks for variable "myfileiscool"
[22:51] <magik_> whereas "ping 8.8.8.8" produces: http://pastebin.org/82325
[22:51] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: or Pici did it ;-)
[22:51] <magik_> i just don't get it.....
[22:51] <erUSUL> Subby: ask in #bash
[22:51] <Subby> sry, looks for variable "fileiscool"
[22:51] <Subby> erUSUL: okay, sorry
[22:51] <happy> magik_: disable whatever you tomato router is doing
[22:52]  * DreamDemon|compi sings 'Compiling we will go, compiling we will go - hi ho a derio a compiling we will go"
[22:52] <happy> magik_: it may be hijacking your dns request.
[22:52] <magik_> i've tried that as well - the other weird thing, is that the tomato router gets DHCP ip from ISP - and it doesn't obtain any nameservers either
[22:52] <macman_> has anyone used filestat ? if so where can i get it
[22:52] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: that sounds like a great song for the go programming language :-P
[22:52] <damanmagee> does anybode know how to get sound working on gyachi on kubuntu 9.10. pulse audio plug in selected but still no luck
[22:52] <erUSUL> macman_: wha t does filestat do ?
[22:52] <magik_> and when i tcpdump the interface - and do a dig - i don't see any traffic
[22:53] <macman_> erUSUL: dunno .. thats why im asking you -_-
[22:53] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, Just wasting time while I compile a vanilla kernel to MY needs
[22:53] <happy> magik_: hm... I got know ideas
[22:53] <terje> dig is UDP based
[22:53] <magik_> IIRC dig uses tcp when you do the @
[22:53] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: as I said, you should sing it on #go-nuts lol
[22:53] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, lol
[22:53] <terje> magik_: what does this do.. telnet 8.8.8.8 53
[22:53] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: go-nuts is the programming language
[22:54] <magik_> terje: seems to connect fine
[22:54] <BAiNE> thanks for your help erUSUL
[22:54] <saviorfromthenor> anyone tried the vanilla install for usb? (if that what its acalled)
[22:54] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, I shoud join and post that then leave - lol
[22:54] <erUSUL> BAiNE: no problem
[22:54] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: lol
[22:54] <magik_> or at least doesn't complain about connecting - what do i type once i telnet to get a response?
[22:54] <quentin> h0rnman: Device = Identifier	"Configured Video Device",
[22:54] <quentin> Monitor = Identifier	"Generic Monitor",
[22:54] <quentin> Screen = Identifier	"Default Screen" <- this is what i have
[22:55] <madmike> how do I enable mouse scrolling of my desktops?  I'm playing with viewport, but I still can't get it to scroll with the mouse.  Call me an idiot....
[22:55] <terje> nothing
[22:55] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, If I get a good compile this time I'm gonna be soooooo annoyed with git
[22:55] <terje> type CTRL + ] to disconnect
[22:55] <h0rnman> quentin, Try changing them all to read "Default Screen"
[22:55] <magik_> terje: seems to connect - if i type anything - it just says Connection closed by foreign host.
[22:55] <koshari> madmike use the cube, and mouse scroller to rotate
[22:55] <quentin> h0rnman: going to try that
[22:55] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: compiling a kernel with next to nothing in it is hard. I tried that :-\
[22:55] <terje> do you see: Connected to 8.8.8.8.
[22:55] <terje> after you telnet?
[22:55] <gtfo> windows or gtfo
[22:55] <findux> ubuntu locked when screensavers activeded , ubuntu 6.x I can't solve
[22:55] <magik_> yeah
[22:55] <magik_> it says connected
[22:55] <terje> ok, so TCP works
[22:55] <magik_> and i can ping 8.8.8.8
[22:56] <magik_> but doing dig @8.8.8.8 hostname doesn't work
[22:56] <gtfo> linux is a lose of time
[22:56] <terje> and ICMP obviously works.
[22:56] <terje> UDP does not work
[22:56] <gtfo> all thse fucking nerds trying hard to make a fucking desktop
[22:56] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, Thats what I'm doing now.  Stripped out all the crap that isnt even in my machine nor connected to it ( or ever will ) ... like token ring, atm, etc
[22:56] <gtfo> DESU DESU DESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESU
[22:56] <gtfo> DESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESU
[22:56] <FloodBot3> gtfo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <gtfo> DESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESUDESU DESU
[22:56] <terje> magik_: what does this return: dig @8.8.4.4 google.com
[22:57] <madmike> koshari:  where is mouse scroller?  I got desktop cube working, but I can't find any options.  All it gives me is key grabbing
[22:57] <DreamDemon|compi> Seeker`, ty
[22:57] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: I tried to strip out everything that was not needed for a vm
[22:57] <koshari> madmike in between the left and right buttons on the mouse
[22:57] <magik_> terje: http://pastebin.org/82328
[22:57] <madmike> ok
[22:57] <bcj> Hi all.  My laptop DVD drive seems to click every few minutes - I think this might be to do with the kernel polling for a new disc, but it appears as a bug.  Does anyone have any info?
[22:58] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, amusing how I havent gotten nearly the error msgs from vanilla as I did from git so far
[22:58] <happy> DreamDemon|compi: I suggest starting with the ubuntu sources. They are patched to work with ubuntu
[22:58] <terje> magik_: perhaps they blocked yo
[22:58] <koshari> madmike i take it you have a scroller on your mouse?
[22:58] <madmike> koshari:  My middle button (scroll button) isn't registering
[22:58] <magik_> if i do a /etc/init.d/network-manager restart - will it re-aquire the DHCP settings?
[22:58] <terje> magik_: what does this report: dig @198.6.1.1 google.com
[22:59] <magik_> 198.6.1.1 ? one sec, im rebooting my router remotely.... im at work.... this is sort of a bitch
[22:59] <DreamDemon|compi> happy, I did and it puked every time.  Something to do with merged config files.  Tired of it puking and manually force feeding it to work like it's supposed to
[22:59] <koshari> madmike open up xev and check for what event your scroller posts
[22:59] <Trizicus> When my mouse is on the edges (top, bottom, left, right) when I am in an application I cannot scroll I have to have my mouse pointer not on the edges. Does anything have any suggestions?
[22:59] <quentin> h0rnman: wtf! my settings didn't stay on reboot, and now i have less resolutions to choose from in nvidia-settings
[22:59] <Trizicus> anyone*
[22:59] <terje> magik_: to restart your local interfaces, do: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:00] <magik_> same thing terje - as the 8.8.4.4. or 8.8.8.8
[23:00] <madmike> cool, never knew about xev, thanks
[23:00] <h0rnman> which resolutions are available?
[23:00] <terje> you're blocking outbound UDP port 53
[23:00] <magik_> hrm.....
[23:00] <bcj> quentin: Could you have chosen an invalid setting and forced a failsafe situation?
[23:00] <tUibm> Hello!! can somebody help me?? i have a black screen when i activate the restricted drivers for my nvidia graphic card on my laptop =( using ubunto 9.10 and i have the same problem when i install it manually downloading the latest driver from nvida website
[23:00] <Trizicus> When my mouse is on the edges (top, bottom, left, or right) and I try to scroll using my mouse wheel I cannot scroll I have to have my mouse pointer not on the edges. Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
[23:00] <koshari> madmike then you somply allocate the key to the binding
[23:01] <bcj> tUibm: Yep - don't use the restricted driver :-)
[23:01] <koshari> madmike my scroller is button 4 and button 5
[23:01] <ganymede> i have an LDAP user with an NFS mounted home directory across ubuntu 8.10 and 9.10 clients. how would i append a "." to my sh PATH in a way across all these computers? i tried putting, "export PATH=$PATH:." in .profile but . still doesn't show up in PATH
[23:01] <quentin> bcj: possible. yet my settings worked in intrepid. not in karmic
[23:01] <magik_> how the hell did this happen overnight....
[23:01] <happy> ganymede:  put it in .bashrc
[23:02] <bcj> quentin: Are you using the same driver?
[23:02] <h0rnman> quentin, which resolutions do you have available right now?
[23:02] <madmike> koshari:  yup, button 2 is scroller, and 4/5 for up/down, they are already assigned to events, just nothing happens when I try to use them
[23:02] <erUSUL> magik_: looked into the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ??
[23:02] <happy> ganymede: puting . in your path is not considered a good idea
[23:02] <terje> ganymede: not a great idea.. but that syntax is correct for bashrc files
[23:02] <happy> terje: beat you to it :-P
[23:03] <terje> :)
[23:03] <tUibm> bcj: but i cant see fullscreen videos without it.... =( and i cant use the full graphic enviroment....
[23:03] <erUSUL> ganymede: do *not* do that. period
[23:03] <fluxy> I have managed to find torrents for various ubuntu images, including unr: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ . Thanks All.
[23:03] <magik_> erUSUL: why Xorg log?
[23:03] <happy> fluxy: great :-)
[23:03] <Kinetic|work> is there an easy/clean wyt o kill kde once its launched...other than logging out
[23:04] <koshari> madmike thats odd? possobly you have a clash of events, however it will usually trll you,
[23:04] <ganymede> happy, it's a workaround for a program that expects "source myscript.sh" to source "./myscript.sh" but in sh 4.x, they removed . for the search path for "source". currently, i'm adding a line of code in the python source to workaround this but it's becoming cumbersome to keep patching the python source
[23:04] <erUSUL> magik_: oops sorry; not for you
[23:04] <magik_> ok, i was like wtf does X have to do with DNS hahaha
[23:04] <madmike> koshari:  thanks for the help, I have to go though, I'll keep playing with it later though
[23:04] <terje> ganymede: use $HOME instead
[23:04] <magik_> but that does bring me to another problem - ever since upgrading the distro - my VMWARE can't get good drivers.... but whatever, that doesn't bother me a lot right now
[23:04] <benn1> hello - looking for some help with S3 video on xubuntu8.04 x86 - live cd seemed to live the video card fine and loaded my monitor's native res automatically but after install has completed it is defaulting to either 8x6 or lower not sure which.
[23:04] <happy> ganymede: why not put in the path where myscript is
[23:04] <magik_> freaking DNS not working is pissing me off
[23:04] <quentin> h0rnman: 1360x768, 152x864, 1024x768, 800x600, 680x384, 640x480, 512x384,  400x300, 320x240
[23:04] <thidrito> o_o
[23:05] <magik_> so what updates resolv.conf ? i thought network-manager ?
[23:05] <quentin> h0rnman: I had many more before. lol
[23:05] <ganymede> happy, well i could try that...but then i don't know where else this python program does "sh -c "source myscript.sh"" so i would have to go and find all scripts that it sources and add them all to PATH
[23:05] <koshari> madmike the cursur needs to be on the desktop and NOT over an app for rotate btw
[23:05] <terje> magik_: dhclient updates /etc/resolv.conf
[23:05] <erUSUL> ganymede: . file works fine here (for sourcing) or did i missandertood you ?
[23:06] <h0rnman> quentin, try setting something via nvidia-config, then restart X
[23:06] <terje> well, that's one of the programs that touches /etc/resolv.conf, network-manager also does
[23:06] <tUibm> anyone???
[23:06] <terje> if you hard-code DNS servers in it
[23:06] <C4colo> so, when is sun-java6-jdk broken packages thing in the repos actually going to be fixed?  Last I saw there was a ticket saying "this is just a problem with the headers" and no workaround or anything ...
[23:06] <terje> otherwise dhclient gets them off the network
[23:06] <magik_> grrrrr - so my router is my DHCP server - it gets the DHCP dns nameservers from my ISP - i DHCP to the router - and it gives me the nameservers as well.....
[23:06] <C4colo> I should never have upgraded to 9.10
[23:06] <PabloRS> somebody of you has been in the talks of day of the user's ubuntu?
[23:06] <magik_> now why the hell is it getting blocked
[23:06] <quentin> nvidia settings Model is set to CRT as well. I have an LCD
[23:06] <magik_> is there a way to dns resolve over tcp?
[23:06] <erUSUL> ganymede: could be just that the program spects sh to be bash and it braks becouse in ubuntu/debian sh is *dash*
[23:07] <quentin> h0rnman: what command should i use to restart x
[23:07] <terje> magik_: have you tried your ISP's name servers?
[23:07] <h0rnman> quentin, again...try adjusting your settings in nvidia-config to something more sensical, then reboot
[23:07] <quentin> h0rnman: ok
[23:07] <magik_> terje - i just moved back to them now
[23:07] <bcj> erUSUL: I think the default _boot-time_ shell is DASH, but is the user shell default not still BASH?
[23:08] <magik_> at least getting them through DHCP from router - which just got them from DHCP from ISP
[23:08] <magik_> and that doesn't work either....
[23:08] <ganymede> erUSUL, make a file called test.sh in your current directory that does echo "HELLO" and then in sh, try ". test.sh" will not work but try ". ./test.sh"
[23:08] <terje> quentin: /etc/init.d/gdm restart will restart your X session
[23:08] <magik_> my router is resolving them fine....
[23:08] <erUSUL> bcj: yes login shell is bash. but /bin/sh is dash
[23:08] <terje> w/o a reboot
[23:08] <magik_> so im guessing ur right... something is blocking my UDP
[23:08] <bcj> erUSUL: Ah
[23:08] <magik_> is there a default firewall in ubuntu?
[23:08] <magik_> should iptables have any entries in it?
[23:08] <happy> bcj: pretty much they use dash as the default shell. But for users it is Bash. That way the system scipts have fast execution and the users get all the features of bash
[23:08] <saviorfromthenor> gtg
[23:09] <h0rnman> terje, Yes, but we want to see if the settings will persist across a reboot
[23:09] <C4colo> anyone use the sun java jdk on ubuntu, other than myself and the two other people who commented on the ticket regarding the issue?
[23:09] <bcj> happy: I'd like to see a VM-based shell that can run bytecode at boot-time.
[23:09] <bcj> A much better idea in my opinion :-)
[23:09] <erUSUL> ganymede: true
[23:10] <terje> then reboot it !
[23:10] <keysersoze> exit
[23:10] <terje> don't ask how to restart X if you want to see if your settings persist a reboot.
[23:10] <terje> jackalope
[23:10] <tUibm> Hello!! can somebody help me?? i have a black screen when i activate the restricted drivers for my nvidia graphic card on my laptop =( using ubunto 9.10 and i have the same problem when i install it manually downloading the latest driver from nvida website
[23:11] <bcj> tUibm: Have you tried all of the options you get from the restricted driver tool?
[23:11] <bcj> Often you get the option to try the latest and a few stable versions.
[23:11] <quentin> back - the resolution defaulted to auto which shows a rather smallish resolution
[23:12] <quentin> my settings didn't stick
[23:12] <tUibm> i cant, because when i activate it it ask me for a reboot... when a reboot i have the black screen..
[23:12] <h0rnman> are your nvidia-config settings back to the low settings?
[23:12] <Admin__> is there a graphical wget-like Software-Center for windows ????
[23:12] <buttons840> Hi, I'm looking at the wine-gecko package wondering if it will allow the poorly designed website to work; which refuses to work with anything other than internet explorer?
[23:12] <magik_> grrrr i dont get it.... i can do nslookup in win7 from behind the router - but the ubuntu box in my VM machine on my win7 box can't get dns?
[23:13] <quentin> h0rnman: the settings are back to low
[23:13] <h0rnman> quentin, ok....try running nvidia-config with gksudo this time.  Also, is it still throwing those errors?
[23:13] <magik_> could it be a vmware setting screwing this up? i upgraded recently
[23:13] <ganymede> erUSUL, rather than working around this in the python source (which apparently automatically updates itself for this proprietary app), i'd like to workaround it automatically for all machines that use this LDAP user
[23:13] <magik_> errr not vmware, but virtualbox
[23:13] <Ravm> buttons84: I'm not sure, but if it's using the gecko engine it probably won't. But like I said, I'm not sure.
[23:14] <quentin> i can't get it to write to xorg.conf with gksudo
[23:14] <erUSUL> ganymede: funnily enough if the file is a dotfile it works .... « . .test » works but « . test » fails .... go figure
[23:14] <ganymede> erUSUL, and what i'm also confused is that, "source ./myfile" doesn't work but ". ./myfile" works whereas i could swear i was using source rather than . in the past
[23:15] <kbrosnan> buttons840: doubtful, there is ms ie for wine, though depending on what the site needs it might not work either
[23:15] <ganymede> with sh on ubuntu 9.10
[23:15] <hlfshell> How do i tell what group a function is in?
[23:15] <h0rnman> quentin, what do you mean by that?
[23:15] <hlfshell>  i need to add my user to a group that has access to the serial ports (ttyS0 to ttyUSB0)
[23:15] <quentin> the resolution on the box when I got this monitor said 1440x900 yet that is not an option in nvidia-settings
[23:15] <erUSUL> hlfshell: see what are the permissions of that files
[23:15] <buttons840> Ravm, bah; it's frustrating to no end when flash works with any website but this very important site i need to use reports "flash 10 must be installed" so i surf over to adobes test site and a lovely flash 10 animation plays and says "you have flash 10 installed"; i call tech support and as soon as the the word "firefox" leave my mouth the conversation is over
[23:15] <hlfshell> ls -al erUSUL ?
[23:15] <erUSUL> hlfshell: ls -l /dev/ttyS0
[23:16] <erUSUL> hlfshell: in my system group dialout can access it
[23:16] <hlfshell> in my system it complains about permissions
[23:16] <quentin> h0rnman: i thought maybe clicking "write to xorg" would keep the settings in nvidia-settings
[23:17] <h0rnman> quentin, can you run the nvidia configuration tool with superuser privs?
[23:17] <Ravm> buttons840: I know what you mean, I have this site I have to visit regularly which fails to load on anything but IE6. I tried everything.
[23:17]  * erUSUL this groupname does not make sense anymore since serial modems are a thing of the past ...
[23:17] <h0rnman> if not, what does it do when you try?
[23:17] <buttons840> usually it comes from websites required by work or school i notice, as any other website so narrow minded goes away quickly
[23:17] <quentin> h0rnman: i can use gksudo with nvidia-settings if that's what you mean
[23:18] <Ravm> buttons840: True.
[23:18] <daftykins> quentin: i usually run it by hitting alt+f2 to get the run box, then "gksudo nvidia-settings" there
[23:18] <h0rnman> why not?  what happens when you try?
[23:18] <h0rnman> yeah
[23:18] <sdwrage> Hey guys, is there a way to stream a video stream of your desktop environment (display) to, say, an xbox 360 as a video feed?
[23:18] <Admin__> Does anyone know how to make Wubi boot by default instead of windows?
[23:18] <h0rnman> that's it :)
[23:18] <buttons840> Ravm, is there anything easy in the repos to install IE on ubuntu?
[23:19] <Losha> erUSUL: I still have a serial modem. I even used it once, about 6 months ago, when comcast shut me off by mistake. I even made them pay for a month's subscription to a dial-up service...
[23:19] <erUSUL> Losha: :) i stand corrected then XD my dial up modem is usb still in a box somewhere
[23:20] <quentin> ok, i ran gksudo nvidia-settings and I'm looking at the window now
[23:20] <Ravm> buttons840: I just found this, not sure if it works though: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux
[23:20] <buttons840> Ravm, great, thanks for the help and listening to my rant :)
[23:21] <Losha> erUSUL: some ofthe more rural parts of the US still only have dialup, apparently. We hear from them here on IRC from time to time....
[23:21] <quentin> what should i change in nvidia-settings?
[23:21] <DreamDemon|compi> talk about messed up.  git source want to error out from hell but kernel.org source actually compiles woithout the headaches
[23:21] <h0rnman> quentin, can you change res settings?  If so, change them to something resembling what they should be
[23:22] <h0rnman> then try to save them, then reboot and see if they stick
[23:22] <queso> Is a firefix-3.6 package planned for Jaunty?
[23:23] <quentin> h0rnman: failed to parse, should I restart any way
[23:24] <h0rnman> quentin, nwhen did it say that?
[23:24] <PlasmaSheep> How come I can't mount windows as an unprivileged user?
[23:25] <quentin> h0rnman: after clicking -> Save to X Configuration File
[23:25] <sdwrage> Hey guys, is there a way to stream a video stream of your desktop environment (display) to, say, an xbox 360 as a video feed?
[23:26] <vlt> Hello. I want to do some timeline-based video editing. What tool can I use on ubuntu?
[23:27] <h0rnman> wow...that was unexpected....try restarting...but I don't think it will work.  You may have to roll back the MODES... changes you made earlier then try nvidia-settings as root again
[23:27] <iKernel> guess what I got working
[23:27] <iKernel> wifi :D
[23:27] <arand> vlt: there are pitivi and kino, pitivi is due for inclsion in lucid btw.
[23:27] <erUSUL> ganymede: people over bash told me that it fails becouse bash look first in PATH for sourcing the file so if there is a file named like the script in path it will be sourced first
[23:27] <koshari> sdwrage vlc may have some way, but your looking at a lot of bandwidth, a similar outcome may be rdp
[23:27] <erUSUL> ganymede: and if it is a binary file bash chokes
[23:27] <magik_> weird.... i guess i figured out my problem... or at least bypassed it.... my tomato router has some DNS caching functionality - i guess u were right terje - it was intercepting my DNS rqeuests and i dunno wtf it was doing with them
[23:28] <PlasmaSheep> How come I can't mount windows as an unprivileged user? How can I do so?
[23:28] <magik_> ughhhh now im getting bombarded with cron system messages yay
[23:28] <erUSUL> ganymede: echo 'echo "Hello"' > test.sh && . test.sh  <<< this works here as spected
[23:28] <ELoXL> by any chance will anyone know how to save trackpad setting for a PPC G4 after initialising "sudo trackpad drag/tap
[23:28] <quentin> h0rnman: that's the error that comes up every time i try to save a resolution
[23:28] <ELoXL> after rebooting the computer the trackpadsetting do not take effect again until i type in the command
[23:29] <koshari> quentin you can always preview the xorg fille, then copy and past using gedit
[23:30] <h0rnman> quentin, well...try dropping to a terminal, backup xorg.conf, delete xorg.conf, then rerun nvidia-settings as superuser and see if it will let you save
[23:30] <teage> i have found the command for the default  root terminal
[23:30] <teage> gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[23:30] <geirha> ganymede: To be on the safe side, prepend it with a relative path, ./, like you do when executing something in the current dir.
[23:31] <PlasmaSheep> How come I can't mount windows as an unprivileged user? How can I do so?
[23:32] <ganymede> geirha, except that the python source that's firing off this source command likes to update itself and thus reset whatever workarounds i write into it
[23:32] <DreamDemon|compi> !ntfs|PlasmaSheep
[23:32] <koshari> PlasmaSheep you mean your windows partition?
[23:32] <jofo> Hello. I have a printer problem: a Samsung CLP-310 under Ubuntu Karmic. It always prints the same error message as described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foo2zjs/+bug/306004
[23:32] <jofo> On that same page it's suggested to "Manually set it to CLP-315 driver". How can I do it?
[23:32] <DreamDemon|compi> !ntfs-3g|PlasmaSheep
[23:32] <sdwrage> koshari, probably not worth it :P I will stick to playing my snes roms on my PC
[23:32] <h0rnman> quentin, barring that, all I can suggest is to keep plugging away at it, using google to try to find a solution, or just roll back
[23:33] <h0rnman> we've reached the limit of what I know about X configs
[23:33] <koshari> sdwrage agreed
[23:33] <geirha> ganymede: Huh? You're trying to source a sh script in python?
[23:33] <ganymede> geirha, yeah, it's not my python code, it's from sidefx for houdini 10.0 hqueue client, and that's what they do
[23:34] <geirha> ganymede: Why source it then? Why not just execute it?
[23:35] <clicker4721> quick question: is there a way to completely back up your system? i don't mean files, I mean everything--making an identical bootable copy (bootable only if necessary though)
[23:35] <koshari> clicker4721 there are many ways
[23:35] <clicker4721> I mainly just want to keep all my programs and all the configurations, the files don't mean as much to me, those are easy
[23:35] <clicker4721> koshari: such as...
[23:35] <geirha> ganymede: Well, the proper thing to do in any case is to file a bug on it.
[23:35] <koshari> clicker4721 dd partimage rsync ect
[23:36] <ganymede> here is the HQCOMMANDS environmental variable: not sure how to interpret it but maybe you do: {"pythonCommands": "export HFS=\"/opt/HFS\" && python2.5", "hythonCommands": "export HFS=\"/opt/HFS\" && cd $HFS && source houdini_setup && hython -u", "mantraCommands": "export HFS=\"/opt/HFS\" && cd $HFS && source houdini_setup && python2.5 $HFS/houdini/scripts/hqueue/hq_mantra.py"}
[23:36] <lektronx> i am having a little trouble with aptitude under sudo in karmic. for some reason i am able to sudo aptitude install but if i sudo aptitude upgrade it always complains of /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[23:36] <clicker4721> koshari: and that just copies utterly everything?
[23:36] <clicker4721> koshari: EVERYTHING?
[23:36] <lektronx> anyone else experiencing a similar problem or know of a solution?
[23:36] <ganymede> geirha, and in all honestly, i don't know what the difference between sourcing and executing a script is, but i want to get this work for now rather than waiting for sidefx to release their next version of houdini (which is probably not address this issue anyway)
[23:37] <koshari> clicker4721 partimare will copy the full disk partition byte for byte, however it dont support ext4 if your using that,
[23:37] <dreamy_> does anyone has any idea the 1st place to start for.. to find out wich games are made for linux ? anyone hepling ?
[23:37] <erUSUL> !games
[23:37] <PingFloyd> happypenguin.org
[23:37] <DreamDemon|compi> dreamy_, google
[23:37] <dreamy_> ok ty
[23:37] <geirha> ganymede: Does it specify bash as shell? If not, it'll use sh, which does not understand «source», posix sh only has «.»
[23:38] <ELoXL> if you have an intel chip you're in a better position than i am with my G4
[23:38] <stevenfgsdfg> Where is a good guide to learning Linux? pdf wise
[23:38] <ELoXL> i cant even get flash or java 1.6
[23:38] <stevenfgsdfg> Ubuntu in particular
[23:38] <clicker4721> koshari: no, i dont believe so, but that's easy to check. now, when you say partition, which one? i know that ubuntu default uses 4: /, /usr, /home, swap
[23:38] <koshari> clicker4721 kkep in mind that using a backup partition depending on OS/config may require the backup to be edited to get it to boot on a new dribve, ie, product activation, disk uuids in grub confs ect
[23:38] <geirha> ganymede: If it does specify bash, it should work if you add the dir containing houdini_setup to PATH
[23:38] <stevenfgsdfg> Where may I find a good pdf/html Ubuntu guide?
[23:38] <quentin> h0rnman: i have saved the config. do you want to see my xorg.conf. it looks totally different now
[23:39] <ganymede> geirha, when it fails because the script to source isn't in the PATH, it prints out a line that says something like: "sh: 1: source: file not found" which led me to believe it was sh, but yeah, you're right, sh doesn't understand source
[23:39] <koshari> clicker4721 /usr /home are directory NOT partitions
[23:39] <ganymede> geirha, however, if i append . to path with the python line: os.environ["PATH"] = os.environ["PATH"] + ":.", then it all of a sudden works, so i wanted to make this change permanent
[23:39] <lektronx> clicker4721: koshari is right. i've never seen ubuntu default to more than 1 partition
[23:40] <lektronx> (excluding swap of course)
[23:40] <kellopes> hello.. what is the command to search for a file in the whole computer?
[23:40] <daleharvey> locate ?
[23:40] <lektronx> kellopes: locate is usually fastest
[23:40] <koshari> kellopes locate?
[23:40] <kellopes> locate will search not just the bin i am in.. but everything??
[23:41] <lektronx> kellopes: however you might want to make sure updatedb was run the last time while the file you were looking for is on your computer
[23:41] <lektronx> otherwise, find would be your best bet
[23:41] <erUSUL> kellopes: yes run « sudo updatedb » so its DB is up to date
[23:41] <daleharvey> anyone good with gnome-do? I want to use it as a really quick way to switch between windows
[23:41] <kellopes> what this sudo command does?
[23:41] <koshari> clicker4721 fsarchiver is another cli opton
[23:41] <ganymede> geirha, when executing commands from the shell, it doesn't search PATH recursively, right?
[23:41] <Bizzeh> hi, i have just installed ubuntu and it refuses to run at full res on my monitor... my monitor and graphics card are both capable of 1920x1080, yet the maximum the display driver (prop ati and free) will display is 1680x1050, any idea how i fix this?
[23:42] <geirha> ganymede: That's dangerous, I'd rather just add a ./ infront of houdini_setup
[23:42] <daleharvey> so I basically want one button I can press where the focus command is selected and the next field picked
[23:42] <geirha> ganymede: Not recursive, that's correct
[23:42] <ganymede> geirha, but where would i add that? if i add it in the python source, it will reset when it auto-updates
[23:42] <kellopes> i am trying to locate the '/etc/modules' on my computer
[23:42] <ELoXL> run system testing in admin
[23:42] <koshari> kellopes you can also use the gui based "search"
[23:42] <geirha> ganymede: Btw, the coders of that script has commited «bashism». You can read about that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[23:42] <ELoXL> i think that might help withyour resolution issue - i  did it and it offered some help
[23:43] <shughes> how do i get the msn chat to work with linux.. for some reason this is preventing me chatting to multiple contacts tint he same window... and im not too computer savy..so coul any help be simple...
[23:43] <Bizzeh> ELoXL: how would i run testing?
[23:43] <geirha> ganymede: Then change it, and submit a patch to the developers, so it will auto-update "right" next time ;)
[23:43] <erUSUL> kellopes: if it is not there just create it
[23:43] <Bizzeh> nm, found it
[23:44] <lektronx> hmm... my problem seems to have resolved itself
[23:44] <hajmola> any way to test video and sound in Empathy?
[23:44] <lektronx> perhaps there was a temp conflict withupdate-notifier or something...
[23:44] <ELoXL> under system
[23:44] <ELoXL> then administration
[23:44] <ELoXL> then "System Testing"
[23:45] <ganymede> geirha, yep, i'll do that since we apparently have premium-level support...until then, gotta add "." to path or "/opt/HFS" (probably the option)
[23:46] <shughes> can anyone help with the msn messenger working with linux...? sorry to interupt you...
[23:46] <queso> okay, so I added the mozilla repositories and stuff, did a `sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6`, it didn't error out but it didn't look like it did anything . . says it's "already the newest version" when I try installing it again. What's up? firefox-3.6 is certainly not on my machine (Jaunty). Help?
[23:46] <daleharvey> shughes: do you really need msn? you can login to msn with empathy
[23:46] <clicker4721> koshari, lektronx: i've screwed aroun with slack a little, so I know the directories can be mounted on seperate partitions to make upgrades easier: the point of ubuntu; and when i installed mine, i saw that swap was on part. #5, and / on #1...i assumed. so, it doesn't need to be bootable, just recoverable, and what did you say the line was that'll do it?
[23:46] <grendal_prime> ok so ubuntu one is not available for 804?  this seems very strange.
[23:46] <shughes> sorry whats empathy?
[23:47]  * clicker4721 away for dinner
[23:47] <grendal_prime> it looks just like an fuse mount.
[23:47] <erUSUL> !away > clicker4721
[23:47] <ganymede> queso, i'm not familiar with that repository, but are you starting firefox using the menu item? maybe that menu item is pointing to firefox-3.5 and you have 3.5 and 3.6 installed alongside each other?
[23:47] <shughes> im not very tech savy... whats empathy?
[23:48] <grendal_prime> shughes: im client
[23:48] <ardchoille> !info empathy | shughes
[23:48] <queso> ganymede: I tried from the commandline with `firefox-3.6`. I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[23:48] <grendal_prime> like a newer version of pidgin from what i can tell
[23:48] <Bizzeh> ran system tests, still giving me same, saying max res is 1680x1050
[23:48] <shughes> okokok.. you are WAY ahead of what i can understand
[23:49] <ikthus> hi
[23:49] <shughes> is it possible to use msn messenger with the linux system?..as i cant connect with a bunch of contacts on the same window
[23:49] <ganymede> queso, and you can confirm that when you go to help->about, it reports that it's still firefox 3.5?
[23:49] <koshari> shughes empathy is the new default im program in ubuntu 9.10 and on
[23:50] <DreamDemon|compi> shughes, Not the Microsoft one
[23:50] <Bizzeh> how can i force X to use 1920x1080 if its not detecting it?
[23:50] <arand> shughes: Instant messaging client, like win live messenger, but it is able to connect to many different networks, including MSN, and IRC.
[23:50] <daftykins> shughes: are you saying you're not fond of Pidgin ?
[23:50] <Wolfwolf> I installed Jaunty as a dual boot OS on an Acer Aspire Netbook several months ago for a friend.  She now wants to return to windows only and remove the Ubuntu partition.  Is there a way to reset the windows boot and remove the Ubuntu partitions?
[23:50] <queso> ganymede: no, firefox-3.6 doesn't even run, says command not fount.
[23:50] <DaZ> Bizzeh: you can.
[23:50] <daftykins> Wolfwolf: you'll need her to either have a windows or ubuntu CD
[23:50] <koshari> Bizzeh it may be your screens edid info isnt getting to the gpu, you may need to enter it in the xorg file manually,
[23:50] <DaZ> Bizzeh: but you have to write your own xorg :f
[23:50] <Bizzeh> DaZ: how?
[23:50] <shughes> i couldnt tell ou what half that is...
[23:51] <ardchoille> queso: you might have to specify the entire path to firefox 3.6 as it may not be in your path
[23:51] <koshari> Bizzeh to begin with you will need your monitors edid info
[23:51] <DaZ> Bizzeh: do you by any chance have nvidia card?
[23:51] <hajmola> any idea why my built-in mic is ridiculously muddled?
[23:51] <ganymede> queso, the command "dpkg -l | grep firefox" shows that firefox-3.6 is installed?
[23:51] <Bizzeh> ati hd3970
[23:51] <queso> ganymede, ardchoille: I did sudo updatedb; locate firefox-3.6. It gives me docs and package info, but nothing in any bins.
[23:51] <Wolfwolf> daftykins:  the netbook doesn't have a cd rom.. we installed from USB image
[23:52] <koshari> Bizzeh whats your monitor?
[23:52] <daleharvey> queso: its not called firefox-3.6 I think, its got the funny beta name
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> DreamDemon|compi: I know what those are
[23:52] <daleharvey> namarekuno or whatever
[23:52] <DreamDemon|compi> shughes, The actual Microsoft MSN client is not supported under linux.  instead there is a port of the communications protocol built into programs like empathy & pidgin.  if you want to use your msn account, you'll need to configure pidgin or empathy to use your msn account
[23:52] <Bizzeh> acer, something... 24" 1080p monitor
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> koshari: yeah, I meant my windows partition
[23:52] <DaZ> namoroka >:
[23:52] <queso> daleharvey: oh man, that's convenient
[23:52] <ganymede> daleharvey, yeah, that's a good point...i didn't think of that
[23:52] <PlasmaSheep> DreamDemon|compi: when I follow the wiki guide, it tells me that I can't mount partitions not as root, due to "fuser" or something
[23:53] <iflema> shughes have you tried out amsn or emesene.
[23:53] <shughes> how so i configure pidgin or empathy to msn
[23:53] <queso> ganymede, ardchoille, daleharvey: thanks for your help, I'll go look for the funny beta name
[23:53] <daleharvey> shughes: just add accounts
[23:53] <daleharvey> pick msn
[23:53] <daftykins> Wolfwolf: ah, of course, sorry pretty tired here! put ubuntu on a flash drive then to make it a "live key" ?
[23:53] <DreamDemon|compi> PlasmaSheep, Correct, unless you know the uid & suid of the drive itself.  Be careful as you could render the drive data useless
[23:53] <daleharvey> now, anyone know how to start gnome-do with "focus" preselected and the next menu selected?
[23:53] <queso> ganymede, ardchoille, daleharvey: I don't get it, though, 'cause it's not in beta anymore
[23:53] <daleharvey> it would make switching windows awesome
[23:53] <shughes> does the amsn and emesen go through the windows live.. will i have to create a new account?
[23:54] <ganymede> queso, i have'nt played with that ppa myself, but maybe it created a menu item for firefox 3.6 that's named after the beta name and has a generic globe icon
[23:54] <AndreMorro[BR]> what up yall
[23:54] <ardchoille> queso: find / -type f -name firefox
[23:54] <ganymede> queso, since mozilla didn't compile it, and ubuntu ppa daily compiled it, they're not allowed to use firefox official branding
[23:54] <iflema> shughes yep... conference not positive...pretty sure amsn does
[23:54] <Wolfwolf> daftykins:  Thanks we'll give that a try and see what it does
[23:54] <daftykins> Wolfwolf: was it XP?
[23:54] <shughes> i will give it ago..thank you so much for your help..im sure i will be back to ask more!!
[23:54] <ganymede> queso, it's some mozilla licensing issue or trademark or some such legal stuff...i don't know the whole story behind it
[23:55] <iflema> shughes later
[23:55] <Wolfwolf> daftykins:  yeah, she has the Win Xp recovery partition but that didn't seem to rewrite the boot sector
[23:55] <MrUnix> !hi | AndreMorro[BR]
[23:55] <daftykins> Wolfwolf: check here: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[23:55] <waldfrank> does anybody know what a "bling bling wanger wang software" means? (i don't if "wanger wang" is spelled correctly)
[23:55] <songer_> helllo
[23:55] <Wolfwolf> Thanks, I'll give that a go
[23:55] <MrUnix> !hi | songer
[23:55] <daftykins> np =]
[23:55] <AndreMorro[BR]> I'm back to try to help
[23:56] <Wolfwolf> My first question to her was "Why would you ever want to remove Ubuntu?"
[23:56] <daftykins> hehe :D
[23:56] <tx> has anyone enabled sli or been able to have 2 nvidia gpu's recognized?
[23:56] <daftykins> Wolfwolf: i am kinda curious as to why she wants rid too.
[23:56] <PlasmaSheep> DreamDemon|compi: This seems like waay more trouble than it's worth. I can't believe it's so difficult to just automount a partition. Thanks anyway.
[23:56] <ailaG2> nite
[23:56] <MrUnix> Wolfwolf, daftykins, because it's broken on their system?
[23:57] <DreamDemon|compi> PlasmaSheep, Thank Microsoft for not following standards
[23:57] <Wolfwolf> daftykins:  She's selling it to someone who's Windows only.
[23:57] <daftykins> ah
[23:57] <PlasmaSheep> DreamDemon|compi: Well, we can always do that.
[23:57] <DreamDemon|compi> PlasmaSheep, This is why I've been eliminating m$ systems in my environment.  Only thing left is my gaming rig & work laptop
[23:57] <koshari> PlasmaSheep if its a perminant drive you would simply add an entry into the fstab fiile
[23:58] <DreamDemon|compi> koshari, it's a ntfs drive
[23:58] <tx> has anyone successfully enabled SLI or a second nvidia GPU?
[23:58] <saviorfromthenor> hello
[23:58] <koshari> DreamDemon|compi so?
[23:58] <jazz_> hello everyone
[23:58] <MrUnix> !hi | saviorfromthenor
[23:58] <MrUnix> !hi | jazz_
[23:58] <tarelerulz> Does Chrome for Linux have bookmark syncing?
[23:58] <DreamDemon|compi> koshari, I do believe he was wanting to mount it as root
[23:58] <PlasmaSheep> koshari: I did that, and ntfs-3g gives me grief about "fuser"
[23:59] <jez__> hello
[23:59] <jez__> i'm having a problem with dhcpd
[23:59] <MrUnix> !ask | jez__
[23:59] <PlasmaSheep> DreamDemon|compi: I want to mount it so that I can access it from an unprivileged user
[23:59] <d_ed> what's the correct channel to seek help with packaging?
[23:59] <jazz_> oh i got questions, see im new here to xchat and linux (been on ubuntu for 4 maybe 5 months)
[23:59] <mneptok> PlasmaSheep: use files >4GB in size much?
[23:59] <jez__> when i run it, it fails.  /var/log/syslog says "not configured to run on any interfaces"
[23:59] <MrUnix> d_ed, what's the issue?
[23:59] <MrUnix> !ask | jazz_
[23:59] <PlasmaSheep> mneptok: No, why?
[23:59] <d_ed> I get: dpkg-gencontrol: error: must specify package since control info has many ()
[23:59] <jez__> however, i think there is valid configuration in my /etc/dhcpd.conf to get it to listen on eth2
[23:59] <d_ed> though the control file clearly only has one entry
[23:59] <jez__> so why is dhcpd failing?