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| nomnex | help: OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range | 00:51 |
|---|---|---|
| nomnex | Cannot sign in Ubuntu One | 00:51 |
| nomnex | Go to Web function from the panel applet | 00:53 |
| nomnex | solved | 00:55 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: happened to me earlier. I tried it a few times and it eventually let me in. | 01:25 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, thanks. | 01:25 |
| nomnex | Can someone explains me Ubuntu One, I don't get it right | 01:25 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: probablly something to keep an eye on. If it continues to act up tommorrow maybe an issue | 01:26 |
| nomnex | keeps deleting my files on either sides | 01:26 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, sure | 01:26 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: are these files or notes? | 01:26 |
| nomnex | files | 01:27 |
| duanedesign | hmm | 01:27 |
| nomnex | maybe you can help? there is only one pc registred, but my too machine update their files, does that sound right? | 01:27 |
| nomnex | my two... | 01:28 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you only have one PC registered with your Ubuntu ONE ACCOUNT | 01:28 |
| duanedesign | sorry cap fail :) | 01:29 |
| nomnex | re-phrase: correct only one Computer on my account | 01:29 |
| nomnex | same log-in name and pass on both machines. could that be the cookie? I have just deleted the second machine, but not cleared the cookies | 01:30 |
| duanedesign | and your using two machines with Ubuntu One how? | 01:30 |
| duanedesign | the web interface | 01:30 |
| nomnex | the applet | 01:30 |
| nomnex | and folder | 01:30 |
| nomnex | ubuntu one mirror the files on both machines | 01:31 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: /3 | 01:32 |
| duanedesign | oops sorry | 01:32 |
| nomnex | could is new to me. How does that work. when 2 machines are connected in the same time, how do I manage the backup direction and file versions to update? | 01:33 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, no prob. and my sentence starts with CLOUD | 01:33 |
| duanedesign | :) | 01:34 |
| nomnex | no idea | 01:35 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you add files to the folder and the database gets updated i think every ten minutes | 01:35 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: so if you aonly have one computer on the account. Then you add files using the 'other' computer. When the database syncs it is going to remove those files. | 01:37 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you need to add the second computer to authorize it to sync | 01:37 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, so it's a bad idea to have 2 computers running in the same time. That might create conflict. e.g. I backup my bookmarks.json every 1 hour to the folder Ubuntu One, if both computers update at the same time, that might create a conflict? | 01:37 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, 'other' computer. When the database syncs it is going to remove those files - exact! but how is this possible? | 01:38 |
| duanedesign | not to get off the subject, but what do you use to back up your bookmarks. Do you do it manually? | 01:38 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, no, an FF addon, sync places | 01:39 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: it is syncing to the computer on the account. it is the one that is managing the database. | 01:39 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: i will have to check that addon out | 01:40 |
| nomnex | http://www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/ here, pretty neat! | 01:40 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, you get me lost. if one registered computer, the dir should be computer-server Ubuntu One. How come another un-registred computer can update and delete its files? | 01:41 |
| nomnex | detection of new computer occurs manually or auto? | 01:42 |
| duanedesign | computers hooked up to the same Ubuntu One account should sync files with the Ubuntu One cloud as well as to each other. | 01:45 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you can go to the website to add a new computer | 01:46 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, doing it | 01:46 |
| nomnex | how? I can only remove selected computer but not add one | 01:47 |
| nomnex | and the other one is not recognized | 01:47 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/ | 01:48 |
| duanedesign | see step 4 | 01:48 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: if you are seeing the icon in your panel then you already added that computer? | 01:50 |
| nomnex | correct, I am using Karmic. The computer was on the list. I have removed it, but it still sync | 01:51 |
| nomnex | any idea? | 01:51 |
| duanedesign | ohhh | 01:51 |
| duanedesign | ok | 01:51 |
| duanedesign | i am getting on the same page with ya :) | 01:51 |
| nomnex | okay | 01:51 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: if you wish to remove the computer. Perhaps you need to uninstall the Ubuntu One client. Then access the files strictly through the Web Interfave | 01:55 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, that's not what I want. I want to mirror both computer since I usually do not use them in the same time. However, why is my second computer not recognized anymore as a new machine? How do I troubleshoot and is the fact I use the same user name/pass on both machines the reason? | 01:57 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: if you wish to readd the computer to the account and it is not doing so you might need to purge the client and reinstall it | 01:59 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: also there is a file ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log | 01:59 |
| duanedesign | that can provide some info | 02:00 |
| nomnex | I try to remove the cache first thanks. I get back to you in a min. | 02:00 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: sure thing :) | 02:01 |
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| nomnex | well these are just log, no configuration file. I guess, I have to re-install the client then | 02:02 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, is ubuntu one in the repo? do I need to remove the apt line too? advice. | 02:03 |
| nomnex | advise? | 02:04 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, u there? | 02:07 |
| duanedesign | yes | 02:08 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, good news, clearing the cookies, log-off/on, did the trick, the computer is recognized, so back on track | 02:08 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, from now on a new document on c1 will be mirror in c2 correct? | 02:09 |
| duanedesign | ok great | 02:10 |
| duanedesign | yes sir | 02:10 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: late last year when i had two computers connected it was alittle slow to sync | 02:11 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: i think they have fixed that | 02:11 |
| nomnex | the My Files folder is the "mirror" folder to share docs among several machines and the Shared With Me is a "read only" folder? | 02:11 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: however if you notice that The best way to force the sync between the two computers is to disconnect the Ubuntu One client and then connect. | 02:11 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: shared with me is for sharing folders between friends | 02:12 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: like if me and you were working on a project we could share a folder | 02:12 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, if I share my docs with you on a project, then the files won't be mirrored? | 02:13 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: yes they would share the files between us | 02:14 |
| nomnex | I guess, I am starting to get the pictures, in this case we would share files but not computers right. mmm I mean, your computer and mine would still be on separate accounts | 02:15 |
| duanedesign | "My Files" is where you should put your files. "Shared With Me" is where folders that other users have shared with you show up. | 02:15 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: that is correct | 02:15 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: it is a little confusing. They are working on getting the documentation put together to better explain this. | 02:16 |
| nomnex | okay, thanks for you time, I will now try my options. do you have the 50 gb plans? | 02:16 |
| nomnex | I use rsync to backup mirror my pc. it's a bit of a change, but that's nice. | 02:16 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: not at the moment. I will have it again soon though :) I love the service and it is a great way to support Canonical | 02:16 |
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| nomnex | duanedesign, agreed. | 02:17 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: glad you got it sorted | 02:17 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, do you try the notes, evolution contacts, etc? | 02:17 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: yes i have my notes synced. I used to use a WebDAV i had set up on my server | 02:17 |
| duanedesign | i like the Ubuntu One option because i can access the notes from the web interface and edit them | 02:18 |
| duanedesign | The evoloution Contacts is nice too | 02:18 |
| nomnex | I mean, the new Tomboy note sync on Ubuntu one, and the Evo contact sync - have you tried this functions already? | 02:18 |
| nomnex | cross post | 02:18 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: yes | 02:18 |
| nomnex | do you have a sec to talk about it? | 02:19 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: sure | 02:19 |
| nomnex | Tomboy, last when I tried, the formatting was inconsistent. do you use formatting on you notes? | 02:19 |
| duanedesign | hmm. What type of formatting? | 02:20 |
| nomnex | Bold, Font sizes | 02:20 |
| duanedesign | there are not a ton of text formatting options in tomboy. You can make text a little bigger a little smaller. Bold, underline | 02:21 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you do not get precise font size control. I think you get Normal, Big, and Bigger | 02:21 |
| duanedesign | but the wiki style linking between notes is really nice | 02:22 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, note sync from c1 to c2 trough Ubuntu One note (new function) did not or destroyed some of the note formatting. have you experienced such thing? | 02:22 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: good question | 02:22 |
| duanedesign | i just synced a note today that had a lot of formatting and it came through just fine | 02:23 |
| nomnex | will give it a new try. regarding the contacts, when you enable the d.base sync option, are they both local and on the cloud or only on the cloud? ( a. addressbook.db + Ubuntu One, or b. Ubuntu One only)? I am worry about loosing data. | 02:24 |
| nomnex | d.base for the cloud is couch.db I guess? | 02:25 |
| duanedesign | yes it is couchdb | 02:26 |
| nomnex | I give it a try too. do you use it for you contacts? | 02:27 |
| duanedesign | I do. i just switched back to Evoloution recently. The U1 sync was one of the reasons i switched back | 02:28 |
| duanedesign | i am anxious for a Google Android app to sync with the contacts :) | 02:28 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, Android is the phone? | 02:28 |
| duanedesign | the api, though i havent found a lot of information, is pretty easy to use. So i imagine application developers will be creating more apps that use ubuntu One in the near future | 02:29 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: yes it is | 02:29 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: The Google phone OS | 02:29 |
| nomnex | I want one but that's not available in Japan yet. Do you like it? I don't like i-phone for the battery no removable and I just don't like Apple | 02:30 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: i liked my iphone once i 'jailbroke' it. This allows the installation of non Apple Store Apps | 02:31 |
| duanedesign | but that is frowned on by apple, voids your warranty, and they are increasingly making it harder to do | 02:31 |
| nomnex | yes, always the same story. How about Android. satisfied? | 02:32 |
| duanedesign | The Google Android is nice. Since most the other Open Source phone projects have not done well i am hoping Android does well | 02:32 |
| nomnex | looking forward to see it. | 02:33 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you are in Japan? | 02:33 |
| nomnex | Yes | 02:33 |
| nomnex | and you must be in the US, or it is very late for you | 02:33 |
| duanedesign | i hear cell phone technology is far ahead of what it is hear. | 02:33 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: its getting a little late :) | 02:34 |
| nomnex | IC. well japs are dumb asses just able to use a terminal for most. They enjoy life in a 3 inches display. Go wonder... | 02:35 |
| duanedesign | we are just starting to realize the potential for cell phones here in the US. For instance QR code and UPC code readers | 02:35 |
| duanedesign | lol | 02:35 |
| nomnex | yes, those functions like scanning bar codes, etc work well here. but looking a the price of communication, that's just crazy | 02:36 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: you speek English very well. Are you from Japan originally | 02:36 |
| nomnex | there is no more proprietary market than the Japanese electronic market | 02:36 |
| nomnex | thank you, my wife is Japanese. | 02:36 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: true i have a lot of friends around the world in the ubuntu community and i am suprised that a lot of people dont have unlimited bandwith with there monthly service | 02:37 |
| nomnex | so am I. | 02:38 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, what is your server? | 02:38 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: i download all kinds of stuff without thinking twice about it :) | 02:38 |
| duanedesign | my ISP service or my server(computer) | 02:39 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, still the good part about Japan is no censor whatsoever. and not ~forgot the word from ISP when you use torrents | 02:39 |
| nomnex | you said you have a server | 02:39 |
| nomnex | ubuntu server? | 02:39 |
| duanedesign | yes i have a VPS. it is a nice way to have access to all the convenience of a server and not have to worry a whole lot about it | 02:40 |
| nomnex | got it, connection throttle?? | 02:40 |
| duanedesign | though servers are getting cheap. | 02:40 |
| nomnex | VPS? what's that? do yo have a link. | 02:41 |
| duanedesign | it is Virtual Private Server. You pay to use someone elses server | 02:41 |
| duanedesign | my server is 1000mi. away :) | 02:41 |
| nomnex | oh I see. I understand | 02:42 |
| nomnex | I am eager to try Ubuntu server 10.04 and the desktop. BTW, the other good part of Japan is a single malt whiskey bottle (Laphroiag by example) costs only 30 USD | 02:43 |
| nomnex | and that's a very reasonable way to start with your breakfast. | 02:43 |
| duanedesign | lol, nice | 02:43 |
| nomnex | the same bottle is 60-70 USD in the US | 02:43 |
| duanedesign | yeah and the importing of different brands is not very good | 02:44 |
| nomnex | okay, I going to try my U1 options. thanks for the chit-chat and the help | 02:44 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, last sentence? different brands? which ones? | 02:44 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: anytime, good luck | 02:44 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: i dont drink anymore but when i did there were many beers that you could not get here. | 02:45 |
| nomnex | that's like U1 always improving. You get anything now. When were you there and where? | 02:46 |
| nomnex | the golden age? 20 y. ago? | 02:46 |
| duanedesign | i am not quite that old. Maybe 15 years age :) | 02:47 |
| duanedesign | nomnex: if you ever have any support questions come by #ubuntu-beginners me and a bunch of others give help in there | 02:48 |
| nomnex | duanedesign, thanks I will do that. I take for granted that you visited Japan 15 y. ago and not that you are 15 ;-) see you | 02:48 |
| duanedesign | ha ha. have a good day | 02:49 |
| nomnex | thanks bye | 02:49 |
| wahben | Hi all! I've always had problems using Ubuntu One. some files wouldn't synch. But anyways, today I thought maybe a few updates had been done and it might be more stable. But now I cannot login to the web interface, I get the error message: OpenID failed OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range | 03:46 |
| kgs | That error has been occurring frequently. | 03:55 |
| wahben | hmm today only | 03:57 |
| wahben | never had it before | 03:58 |
| wahben | but i haven't used ubuntu one in weeks | 03:58 |
| wahben | ..or months maybe | 03:58 |
| wahben | oh i see | 03:58 |
| wahben | its a statement... not question | 03:58 |
| kgs | :-) | 03:58 |
| wahben | ok well thanks, at least i know that im not alone ! :-) | 03:58 |
| kgs | Yes. | 03:59 |
| princess_ | A quick question: I am assiming I am stuck with an 'Ubuntu One' entry in my home folder - either sym link or folder - am I likely to be able to select another location in the near future? | 12:06 |
| duanedesign | princess_: you are looking to sync a folder other than the default? | 12:19 |
| princess_ | Not really, I am looking for a way to have the default folder somewhere else | 12:20 |
| princess_ | Say ~/Cloud/Ubuntu One, or ~/Shared/Ubuntu One | 12:23 |
| duanedesign | ahh isee | 12:23 |
| duanedesign | princess_: i am not sure. I have come across this guide when looking to share other folders. | 12:26 |
| duanedesign | http://ln-s.net/4s+5 | 12:26 |
| duanedesign | princess_: it does appear that the link option works. | 12:28 |
| duanedesign | I moved the folder and created a link to it and it shows up when i select 'Open Folder' in the applet | 12:28 |
| duanedesign | princess_: now to see if it syncs :) | 12:28 |
| princess_ | I can get it to synch another folder all right, but I need the link in my home folder for that. I was hoping to get rid of that, but it appears that there's no easy way. The shared folder seems like an odd thing to hardcode though | 12:35 |
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| === joshuahoover changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: Have a question? Ask joshuahoover | https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Please honk if you want a music store | ||
| CardinalFang | (AFAIK, we're still meeting.) Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS. Say 'me' to claim a slice of the stand-up meeting, then take your turn by saying DONE/TODO/BLOCKED. | 15:02 |
| urbanape | doomed | 15:03 |
| urbanape | I mean, "me" | 15:03 |
| CardinalFang | The keys are so close together. | 15:03 |
| aquarius | me | 15:03 |
| CardinalFang | me | 15:03 |
| teknico | me | 15:03 |
| urbanape | you can't spell "doomed" without "me" | 15:04 |
| * CardinalFang grumbles at LP timeout errors. | 15:05 | |
| urbanape | you also can't spell "timeout" without "me" | 15:05 |
| teknico | apres moi, le deluge? | 15:06 |
| dobey | me | 15:06 |
| teknico | hi, deluge! ;-) | 15:06 |
| dobey | o/~ doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom o/~ | 15:06 |
| teknico | destiny tribal dance | 15:07 |
| urbanape | DONE: Submitted big, massive Bindwood branch for merge. Apologies all around. More work on subsequent client sync branch. (Q: How much Bindwood is too much Bindwood? A: THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH BINDWOOD!) | 15:08 |
| urbanape | TODO: Uh, I'm gonna go with "Bindwood", Pat. | 15:08 |
| urbanape | BLOCK: None. | 15:08 |
| urbanape | aquarius, I pass the torch on to you. | 15:08 |
| dobey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ | 15:08 |
| aquarius | ⚀ DONE: visual design review for music store; discussion with music provider | 15:08 |
| aquarius | ⚁ TODO: have music library page send message to downloader daemon and row to database; write Ubuntu Developer Day talk; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer | 15:08 |
| aquarius | ⚂ BLOCKED: | 15:08 |
| aquarius | CardinalFang, go for it | 15:08 |
| CardinalFang | DONE: Face Duty. Scanned logs and filed Bug#496046. Patched desktopcouch and committed. Patched server code to be more Py3 and avoid it altogether. Nearly not-sick any more. | 15:09 |
| CardinalFang | TODO: Figure out how to add test for it. | 15:09 |
| CardinalFang | BLOCKED: No. | 15:09 |
| CardinalFang | teknico, allons-y! | 15:09 |
| teknico | DONE: more phone sync planning with chipaca; helping vds get up to speed upon his return; some more debugging on the error from the dev openid server at first login (#510116); | 15:09 |
| teknico | TODO: testing funambol cared and funambol exchange deployment; fix a user's problems accessing the contacts web IU (#506584) | 15:09 |
| teknico | BLOCK: still cannot access the web interface due to an error from the dev openid server at first login (#510116, and also #510866) | 15:09 |
| teknico | next: dobey | 15:09 |
| dobey | ☺ DONE: Reviews, Worked on #510351 (enable bipedal oauth in server) | 15:09 |
| dobey | ☹ TODO: Fix some bugs I filed (#510351, #510353, #510348, #510355) | 15:09 |
| dobey | ☹ BLCK: None. | 15:09 |
| vds | sorry late | 15:13 |
| vds | me | 15:13 |
| vds | DONE: vacation, keeping up with mail and similar... | 15:13 |
| vds | TODO: propose last branch for sms configuration, take care of the deployment of funambol and funambol exchange. | 15:13 |
| vds | BLOCKED: nope | 15:13 |
| CardinalFang | My bug is #511341, not #496046, fwiw. "notes API HTTP-500, RecordDict has no attr has_key" | 15:14 |
| CardinalFang | teknico, can any of us help with your block? | 15:17 |
| teknico | CardinalFang, thanks, we're working on it with jdo and others | 15:18 |
| CardinalFang | Meeting ends. Thanks, all. | 15:18 |
| CardinalFang | aquarius, thisfred, easy fix: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/recorddict_more_dictly/+merge/18004 | 15:27 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: easy approve too ;) | 15:29 |
| mandel | aquarius, ping | 15:36 |
| aquarius | mandel, pong | 15:36 |
| mandel | aquarius, since there is no other possible way, can I propose a merge to provide bulk delete? :P | 15:37 |
| mandel | aquarius, im talking about the bulk update | 15:38 |
| aquarius | mandel, yeah | 15:40 |
| aquarius | I don't like the way it is, but I am too stupid to think of anything else, and I don't want to hold you up. | 15:40 |
| mandel | aquarius, well, it is actually a hard thing to solve... nevertheless, if some has a better idea, it can be changed :D | 15:42 |
| aquarius | mandel, yeah. Python basically doesn't have a good concept of "some of this succeeded and the rest didn't", hence the stuff in twisted to do exactly that. | 15:43 |
| mandel | aquarius, I dont mind having a little dirty part in exchange of just using one request, that is why I also want to provide the bulk delete, it makes things nicer | 15:46 |
| mandel | regarding delete, I understand why a flag is kept, but should the attachments be kept too? | 15:46 |
| CardinalFang | Ooo, good question. | 15:47 |
| CardinalFang | Hrm, I think it shouldn't, mandel. | 15:47 |
| mandel | CardinalFang, I have that feeling too, seems like a waste of space and makes replication worse, right? | 15:49 |
| joshuahoover | Chipaca: ping | 16:07 |
| * rtgz is late,late,late o_o | 16:08 | |
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