=== jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [00:51] help: OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range [00:51] Cannot sign in Ubuntu One [00:53] Go to Web function from the panel applet [00:55] solved [01:25] nomnex: happened to me earlier. I tried it a few times and it eventually let me in. [01:25] duanedesign, thanks. [01:25] Can someone explains me Ubuntu One, I don't get it right [01:26] nomnex: probablly something to keep an eye on. If it continues to act up tommorrow maybe an issue [01:26] keeps deleting my files on either sides [01:26] duanedesign, sure [01:26] nomnex: are these files or notes? [01:27] files [01:27] hmm [01:27] maybe you can help? there is only one pc registred, but my too machine update their files, does that sound right? [01:28] my two... [01:28] nomnex: you only have one PC registered with your Ubuntu ONE ACCOUNT [01:29] sorry cap fail :) [01:29] re-phrase: correct only one Computer on my account [01:30] same log-in name and pass on both machines. could that be the cookie? I have just deleted the second machine, but not cleared the cookies [01:30] and your using two machines with Ubuntu One how? [01:30] the web interface [01:30] the applet [01:30] and folder [01:31] ubuntu one mirror the files on both machines [01:32] nomnex: /3 [01:32] oops sorry [01:33] could is new to me. How does that work. when 2 machines are connected in the same time, how do I manage the backup direction and file versions to update? [01:33] duanedesign, no prob. and my sentence starts with CLOUD [01:34] :) [01:35] no idea [01:35] nomnex: you add files to the folder and the database gets updated i think every ten minutes [01:37] nomnex: so if you aonly have one computer on the account. Then you add files using the 'other' computer. When the database syncs it is going to remove those files. [01:37] nomnex: you need to add the second computer to authorize it to sync [01:37] duanedesign, so it's a bad idea to have 2 computers running in the same time. That might create conflict. e.g. I backup my bookmarks.json every 1 hour to the folder Ubuntu One, if both computers update at the same time, that might create a conflict? [01:38] duanedesign, 'other' computer. When the database syncs it is going to remove those files - exact! but how is this possible? [01:38] not to get off the subject, but what do you use to back up your bookmarks. Do you do it manually? [01:39] duanedesign, no, an FF addon, sync places [01:39] nomnex: it is syncing to the computer on the account. it is the one that is managing the database. [01:40] nomnex: i will have to check that addon out [01:40] http://www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/ here, pretty neat! [01:41] duanedesign, you get me lost. if one registered computer, the dir should be computer-server Ubuntu One. How come another un-registred computer can update and delete its files? [01:42] detection of new computer occurs manually or auto? [01:45] computers hooked up to the same Ubuntu One account should sync files with the Ubuntu One cloud as well as to each other. [01:46] nomnex: you can go to the website to add a new computer [01:46] duanedesign, doing it [01:47] how? I can only remove selected computer but not add one [01:47] and the other one is not recognized [01:48] nomnex: https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/ [01:48] see step 4 [01:50] nomnex: if you are seeing the icon in your panel then you already added that computer? [01:51] correct, I am using Karmic. The computer was on the list. I have removed it, but it still sync [01:51] any idea? [01:51] ohhh [01:51] ok [01:51] i am getting on the same page with ya :) [01:51] okay [01:55] nomnex: if you wish to remove the computer. Perhaps you need to uninstall the Ubuntu One client. Then access the files strictly through the Web Interfave [01:57] duanedesign, that's not what I want. I want to mirror both computer since I usually do not use them in the same time. However, why is my second computer not recognized anymore as a new machine? How do I troubleshoot and is the fact I use the same user name/pass on both machines the reason? [01:59] nomnex: if you wish to readd the computer to the account and it is not doing so you might need to purge the client and reinstall it [01:59] nomnex: also there is a file ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log [02:00] that can provide some info [02:00] I try to remove the cache first thanks. I get back to you in a min. [02:01] nomnex: sure thing :) === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk [02:02] well these are just log, no configuration file. I guess, I have to re-install the client then [02:03] duanedesign, is ubuntu one in the repo? do I need to remove the apt line too? advice. [02:04] advise? [02:07] duanedesign, u there? [02:08] yes [02:08] duanedesign, good news, clearing the cookies, log-off/on, did the trick, the computer is recognized, so back on track [02:09] duanedesign, from now on a new document on c1 will be mirror in c2 correct? [02:10] ok great [02:10] yes sir [02:11] nomnex: late last year when i had two computers connected it was alittle slow to sync [02:11] nomnex: i think they have fixed that [02:11] the My Files folder is the "mirror" folder to share docs among several machines and the Shared With Me is a "read only" folder? [02:11] nomnex: however if you notice that The best way to force the sync between the two computers is to disconnect the Ubuntu One client and then connect. [02:12] nomnex: shared with me is for sharing folders between friends [02:12] nomnex: like if me and you were working on a project we could share a folder [02:13] duanedesign, if I share my docs with you on a project, then the files won't be mirrored? [02:14] nomnex: yes they would share the files between us [02:15] I guess, I am starting to get the pictures, in this case we would share files but not computers right. mmm I mean, your computer and mine would still be on separate accounts [02:15] "My Files" is where you should put your files. "Shared With Me" is where folders that other users have shared with you show up. [02:15] nomnex: that is correct [02:16] nomnex: it is a little confusing. They are working on getting the documentation put together to better explain this. [02:16] okay, thanks for you time, I will now try my options. do you have the 50 gb plans? [02:16] I use rsync to backup mirror my pc. it's a bit of a change, but that's nice. [02:16] nomnex: not at the moment. I will have it again soon though :) I love the service and it is a great way to support Canonical === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta [02:17] duanedesign, agreed. [02:17] nomnex: glad you got it sorted [02:17] duanedesign, do you try the notes, evolution contacts, etc? [02:17] nomnex: yes i have my notes synced. I used to use a WebDAV i had set up on my server [02:18] i like the Ubuntu One option because i can access the notes from the web interface and edit them [02:18] The evoloution Contacts is nice too [02:18] I mean, the new Tomboy note sync on Ubuntu one, and the Evo contact sync - have you tried this functions already? [02:18] cross post [02:18] nomnex: yes [02:19] do you have a sec to talk about it? [02:19] nomnex: sure [02:19] Tomboy, last when I tried, the formatting was inconsistent. do you use formatting on you notes? [02:20] hmm. What type of formatting? [02:20] Bold, Font sizes [02:21] there are not a ton of text formatting options in tomboy. You can make text a little bigger a little smaller. Bold, underline [02:21] nomnex: you do not get precise font size control. I think you get Normal, Big, and Bigger [02:22] but the wiki style linking between notes is really nice [02:22] duanedesign, note sync from c1 to c2 trough Ubuntu One note (new function) did not or destroyed some of the note formatting. have you experienced such thing? [02:22] nomnex: good question [02:23] i just synced a note today that had a lot of formatting and it came through just fine [02:24] will give it a new try. regarding the contacts, when you enable the d.base sync option, are they both local and on the cloud or only on the cloud? ( a. addressbook.db + Ubuntu One, or b. Ubuntu One only)? I am worry about loosing data. [02:25] d.base for the cloud is couch.db I guess? [02:26] yes it is couchdb [02:27] I give it a try too. do you use it for you contacts? [02:28] I do. i just switched back to Evoloution recently. The U1 sync was one of the reasons i switched back [02:28] i am anxious for a Google Android app to sync with the contacts :) [02:28] duanedesign, Android is the phone? [02:29] the api, though i havent found a lot of information, is pretty easy to use. So i imagine application developers will be creating more apps that use ubuntu One in the near future [02:29] nomnex: yes it is [02:29] nomnex: The Google phone OS [02:30] I want one but that's not available in Japan yet. Do you like it? I don't like i-phone for the battery no removable and I just don't like Apple [02:31] nomnex: i liked my iphone once i 'jailbroke' it. This allows the installation of non Apple Store Apps [02:31] but that is frowned on by apple, voids your warranty, and they are increasingly making it harder to do [02:32] yes, always the same story. How about Android. satisfied? [02:32] The Google Android is nice. Since most the other Open Source phone projects have not done well i am hoping Android does well [02:33] looking forward to see it. [02:33] nomnex: you are in Japan? [02:33] Yes [02:33] and you must be in the US, or it is very late for you [02:33] i hear cell phone technology is far ahead of what it is hear. [02:34] nomnex: its getting a little late :) [02:35] IC. well japs are dumb asses just able to use a terminal for most. They enjoy life in a 3 inches display. Go wonder... [02:35] we are just starting to realize the potential for cell phones here in the US. For instance QR code and UPC code readers [02:35] lol [02:36] yes, those functions like scanning bar codes, etc work well here. but looking a the price of communication, that's just crazy [02:36] nomnex: you speek English very well. Are you from Japan originally [02:36] there is no more proprietary market than the Japanese electronic market [02:36] thank you, my wife is Japanese. [02:37] nomnex: true i have a lot of friends around the world in the ubuntu community and i am suprised that a lot of people dont have unlimited bandwith with there monthly service [02:38] so am I. [02:38] duanedesign, what is your server? [02:38] nomnex: i download all kinds of stuff without thinking twice about it :) [02:39] my ISP service or my server(computer) [02:39] duanedesign, still the good part about Japan is no censor whatsoever. and not ~forgot the word from ISP when you use torrents [02:39] you said you have a server [02:39] ubuntu server? [02:40] yes i have a VPS. it is a nice way to have access to all the convenience of a server and not have to worry a whole lot about it [02:40] got it, connection throttle?? [02:40] though servers are getting cheap. [02:41] VPS? what's that? do yo have a link. [02:41] it is Virtual Private Server. You pay to use someone elses server [02:41] my server is 1000mi. away :) [02:42] oh I see. I understand [02:43] I am eager to try Ubuntu server 10.04 and the desktop. BTW, the other good part of Japan is a single malt whiskey bottle (Laphroiag by example) costs only 30 USD [02:43] and that's a very reasonable way to start with your breakfast. [02:43] lol, nice [02:43] the same bottle is 60-70 USD in the US [02:44] yeah and the importing of different brands is not very good [02:44] okay, I going to try my U1 options. thanks for the chit-chat and the help [02:44] duanedesign, last sentence? different brands? which ones? [02:44] nomnex: anytime, good luck [02:45] nomnex: i dont drink anymore but when i did there were many beers that you could not get here. [02:46] that's like U1 always improving. You get anything now. When were you there and where? [02:46] the golden age? 20 y. ago? [02:47] i am not quite that old. Maybe 15 years age :) [02:48] nomnex: if you ever have any support questions come by #ubuntu-beginners me and a bunch of others give help in there [02:48] duanedesign, thanks I will do that. I take for granted that you visited Japan 15 y. ago and not that you are 15 ;-) see you [02:49] ha ha. have a good day [02:49] thanks bye [03:46] Hi all! I've always had problems using Ubuntu One. some files wouldn't synch. But anyways, today I thought maybe a few updates had been done and it might be more stable. But now I cannot login to the web interface, I get the error message: OpenID failed OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range [03:55] That error has been occurring frequently. [03:57] hmm today only [03:58] never had it before [03:58] but i haven't used ubuntu one in weeks [03:58] ..or months maybe [03:58] oh i see [03:58] its a statement... not question [03:58] :-) [03:58] ok well thanks, at least i know that im not alone ! :-) [03:59] Yes. [12:06] A quick question: I am assiming I am stuck with an 'Ubuntu One' entry in my home folder - either sym link or folder - am I likely to be able to select another location in the near future? [12:19] princess_: you are looking to sync a folder other than the default? [12:20] Not really, I am looking for a way to have the default folder somewhere else [12:23] Say ~/Cloud/Ubuntu One, or ~/Shared/Ubuntu One [12:23] ahh isee [12:26] princess_: i am not sure. I have come across this guide when looking to share other folders. [12:26] http://ln-s.net/4s+5 [12:28] princess_: it does appear that the link option works. [12:28] I moved the folder and created a link to it and it shows up when i select 'Open Folder' in the applet [12:28] princess_: now to see if it syncs :) [12:35] I can get it to synch another folder all right, but I need the link in my home folder for that. I was hoping to get rid of that, but it appears that there's no easy way. The shared folder seems like an odd thing to hardcode though === nessita1 is now known as nessita === joshuahoover changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: Have a question? Ask joshuahoover | https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Please honk if you want a music store [15:02] (AFAIK, we're still meeting.) Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS. Say 'me' to claim a slice of the stand-up meeting, then take your turn by saying DONE/TODO/BLOCKED. [15:03] doomed [15:03] I mean, "me" [15:03] The keys are so close together. [15:03] me [15:03] me [15:03] me [15:04] you can't spell "doomed" without "me" [15:05] * CardinalFang grumbles at LP timeout errors. [15:05] you also can't spell "timeout" without "me" [15:06] apres moi, le deluge? [15:06] me [15:06] hi, deluge! ;-) [15:06] o/~ doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom o/~ [15:07] destiny tribal dance [15:08] DONE: Submitted big, massive Bindwood branch for merge. Apologies all around. More work on subsequent client sync branch. (Q: How much Bindwood is too much Bindwood? A: THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH BINDWOOD!) [15:08] TODO: Uh, I'm gonna go with "Bindwood", Pat. [15:08] BLOCK: None. [15:08] aquarius, I pass the torch on to you. [15:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ [15:08] ⚀ DONE: visual design review for music store; discussion with music provider [15:08] ⚁ TODO: have music library page send message to downloader daemon and row to database; write Ubuntu Developer Day talk; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer [15:08] ⚂ BLOCKED: [15:08] CardinalFang, go for it [15:09] DONE: Face Duty. Scanned logs and filed Bug#496046. Patched desktopcouch and committed. Patched server code to be more Py3 and avoid it altogether. Nearly not-sick any more. [15:09] TODO: Figure out how to add test for it. [15:09] BLOCKED: No. [15:09] teknico, allons-y! [15:09] DONE: more phone sync planning with chipaca; helping vds get up to speed upon his return; some more debugging on the error from the dev openid server at first login (#510116); [15:09] TODO: testing funambol cared and funambol exchange deployment; fix a user's problems accessing the contacts web IU (#506584) [15:09] BLOCK: still cannot access the web interface due to an error from the dev openid server at first login (#510116, and also #510866) [15:09] next: dobey [15:09] ☺ DONE: Reviews, Worked on #510351 (enable bipedal oauth in server) [15:09] ☹ TODO: Fix some bugs I filed (#510351, #510353, #510348, #510355) [15:09] ☹ BLCK: None. [15:13] sorry late [15:13] me [15:13] DONE: vacation, keeping up with mail and similar... [15:13] TODO: propose last branch for sms configuration, take care of the deployment of funambol and funambol exchange. [15:13] BLOCKED: nope [15:14] My bug is #511341, not #496046, fwiw. "notes API HTTP-500, RecordDict has no attr has_key" [15:17] teknico, can any of us help with your block? [15:18] CardinalFang, thanks, we're working on it with jdo and others [15:18] Meeting ends. Thanks, all. [15:27] aquarius, thisfred, easy fix: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/recorddict_more_dictly/+merge/18004 [15:29] CardinalFang: easy approve too ;) [15:36] aquarius, ping [15:36] mandel, pong [15:37] aquarius, since there is no other possible way, can I propose a merge to provide bulk delete? :P [15:38] aquarius, im talking about the bulk update [15:40] mandel, yeah [15:40] I don't like the way it is, but I am too stupid to think of anything else, and I don't want to hold you up. [15:42] aquarius, well, it is actually a hard thing to solve... nevertheless, if some has a better idea, it can be changed :D [15:43] mandel, yeah. Python basically doesn't have a good concept of "some of this succeeded and the rest didn't", hence the stuff in twisted to do exactly that. [15:46] aquarius, I dont mind having a little dirty part in exchange of just using one request, that is why I also want to provide the bulk delete, it makes things nicer [15:46] regarding delete, I understand why a flag is kept, but should the attachments be kept too? [15:47] Ooo, good question. [15:47] Hrm, I think it shouldn't, mandel. [15:49] CardinalFang, I have that feeling too, seems like a waste of space and makes replication worse, right? [16:07] Chipaca: ping [16:08] * rtgz is late,late,late o_o === teknico is now known as teknico_away