[00:01] <challman> is anyone alive in here?
[00:02] <Aquina> me
[00:03] <Aquina> hmm... If I were you I'd press ALT+F1 or F2
[00:03] <Aquina> then log in with user and pass at the console.
[00:04] <challman> I have logged it
[00:04] <challman> I need to know how to fix
[00:04] <challman> hey, can anyone help me with a new install and video problems? I've got an older system with an ATI Radeon 9000 & DVI attached LCD. when it boots after install, I do see things on the screen right up to before the logon screen but the LCD shows out of range
[00:04] <Aquina> afterwards check enter "sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and see the resolutions for the monitor
[00:04] <Aquina> did you read what I wrote you?
[00:04] <challman> there isn't an xorg.conf.... 9.10 doesn't use that be default anymore
[00:04] <Aquina> oh it' hal, huh?
[00:05] <challman> um, not sure what you mean
[00:05] <Aquina> wait a minute...
[00:07] <Aquina> ok some stupid questions: 1] is your OS up to date (apt-get upgrade)? 2] You CAN create an xorg.onf!
[00:07] <Aquina> Section "Screen"
[00:07] <Aquina>  Identifier "Screen0"
[00:07] <Aquina>  Device "Card0"
[00:07] <Aquina>  Monitor "Monitor0"
[00:07] <Aquina>  DefaultDepth 16
[00:07] <Aquina> EndSection
[00:07] <Aquina> try that
[00:07] <challman> up to date, yes.... will try that
[00:07] <Aquina> ok
[00:08] <Aquina> I'l post a better config wait...
[00:10] <Aquina> http://pastebin.com/dfd1071b
[00:10] <Aquina> the first section is optional the second one mandatory since it includes resolutions. Modify everything as you like.
[00:10] <Aquina> If you want the first section watch the HZ and KHZ values!!!
[00:11] <Aquina> Check your documentation or you may damage your screen.
[00:11] <challman> ok. will you be on for a few? i need to type this in. not sure if I can FTP it
[00:11] <Aquina> yes
[00:11] <Aquina> :-)
[00:13] <Aquina> Again: You can copy it 1:1 except the 30-80 and 55-75 since thats for my screen. ;-)
[00:16] <challman> ok, typed it in and rebooting
[00:16] <challman> did copy, but can't copy/paste :P
[00:16] <challman> btw, how do you get the grub boot menu now? grub2 doesn't show it be default unless you have more than one OS
[00:18] <challman> ok, i did get a gui prompt. it told me i was running in a low graphics mode. it asked me if I wanted to adjust it.
[00:23] <challman> keep getting out of range
[00:31] <challman> woohoo, i found a link that fixed my problem:::::  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467804
[00:53] <challman> hey, aquina
[01:15] <Aquina> jeah?
[01:16] <Aquina> so your logon screen works?
[01:17] <Aquina> grub2 config in "/boot/grub/mnu.lst" BEFORE the automagic stuff enter "timeout		10" for 10 seconds menue. ;-)
[01:18] <Aquina> oh and comment out hiddenmenu with # --> "#hiddenmenu"
[01:19] <Aquina> aem if it asks you if you wanna change it it *already* displayed something. Did you clck ok or abort before the "out of range" message?
[01:20] <Aquina> (try to ignore/cancel the message and log in as usual)
[01:21] <Aquina> Then enter the XFCE control center and set up everything for your screen there (be cautious).
[01:21] <challman> yes, I found another site with a file almost extacly as i needed
[01:21] <Aquina> so it works now?
[01:21] <challman> now, i'm trying to get acx wireless to work. go figure. i get one problem fixed and find another one
[01:21] <challman> seems Ubuntu pulled the acx drivers from karmic
[01:22] <challman> yes, i've been working on the wireless for the past 30 min. i think i found something
[01:22] <challman> i really love xubuntu
[01:22] <Aquina> Hold on a sec. 1] display works now? 2] grub modified sucessfully? 3] installed wifi stuff with apt-get?
[01:23] <Aquina> Yes, it's a great system. :-)
[01:23] <challman> 1) video working flawless..... 2) didn't see your grub comments. grub2 doesn't use menu.lst anymore. it has /boot/grub/grub.cfg..... 3) TI acx wireless no longer available. having to do manually
[01:24] <challman> this wireless worked great on Mepis 8 (kde 3.5)... hated that version of KDE
[02:22] <Aquina> KDE is bloated...
[02:22] <likemindead> So's your mom.
[02:22] <likemindead> J/K LOL
[02:38] <_blink_> Hey does anyone know how I can move the system tray stuff to the bottom panel?
[02:54] <likemindead> Just right click on it and move it.
[02:54] <_blink_> It wont let me
[02:55] <_blink_> for like the wi fi radar and stuff
[02:59] <likemindead> Go just to the left of the icons. When you right click, it'll be for the "Notification Area" & you can move it.
[03:03] <oorah> i have a broken link i can't remove from the desktop, what do i do?
[03:05] <_blink_> thanks @ like minded
[03:05] <_blink_> I though it was called system tray
[03:12] <likemindead> What do you mean by "broken link" oorah?
[03:15] <oorah> likemindead, i copied a video link to the desktop and not i can't delete it
[03:15] <oorah> likemindead, and when i put the arrow over it it says broken link
[03:16] <likemindead> Right click and delete or just select it and use the delete key?
[03:18] <oorah> likemindead, i can't, thats why i'm here
[03:18] <likemindead> Strange. Never run into that before. :-\
[03:18] <_blink_> How come there aren't forums that are just for xubuntu?
[03:19] <likemindead> Red-headed step-child.
[03:19] <likemindead> ;-)
[03:20] <_blink_> lolwut?
[03:21] <likemindead> There are generally 50 or 60 folks in here and 1200+ in #ubuntu...
[03:22] <_blink_> Meh but there are still 60 people
[03:23] <_blink_> I fucking love xubuntu and it's only my second day on it
[03:25] <oorah> still haven't figured out how to delete it
[03:25] <likemindead> Yep. Xfce is great. I'm a big Openbox & Fluxbox fan too.
[03:25] <oorah> xKill didn't work either
[03:26] <oorah> well, guess a fresh install is an easy fix
[03:26] <oorah> everything can be re-installed within a few minutes anyway
[03:30] <_blink_> oorah, that sucks
[03:31] <_blink_> yeah xfce is great espically combined in ubuntu
[04:09] <robert__> what is a good dock app for xfce?
[04:27] <robert__> i just had to reinstall ubuntu i guess oh well
[04:27] <robert__> xubuntu
[06:26] <owen1> Anyone with Dell mini 10 or Inspiron 11Z - please confirm the touchpad bug I just sumbitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/512192
[06:42] <_blink_> Sorry for being a dumbass but how do I execute python files in xubuntu?
[07:04] <Balsaq> Sysi!!
[07:04] <Balsaq> now there is 2 Sysi ?
[07:05] <Sysi> irssi and quassel
[07:07] <Sysi> quassel is on home network, havent got it to shell yet
[07:10] <Balsaq> kas noin se hätäkeino sence jotta we
[07:11] <Sysi> gtranslate? :D
[07:11] <Balsaq> i-kirjain jälkisäädös koetus se
[07:12] <Balsaq> do it make any sence?
[07:13] <Sysi> no :D
[07:13] <Balsaq> dadgummit
[07:13] <Balsaq> hmmm try this one
[07:13] <Sysi> but i can read that with gtranslate x)
[07:14] <Balsaq> minun maine on fred flintstone
[07:14] <Balsaq> ok what did i say?
[07:15] <Sysi> now it makes sence to me, i will try it
[07:15] <Balsaq> am i speaking finnish?
[07:15] <Sysi> it works backwards also, you see
[07:15] <Balsaq> are you from finland Sysi?
[07:15] <Sysi> yes
[07:16] <Balsaq> hmmm so that means i am not structuring my grammar correctly
[07:16] <Sysi> well.. that's not understandable
[07:16] <Sysi> http://translate.google.com/#fi|en|kas%20noin%20se%20h%C3%A4t%C3%A4keino%20sence%20jotta%20we%20%0Ai-kirjain%20j%C3%A4lkis%C3%A4%C3%A4d%C3%B6s%20koetus%20se
[07:16] <Sysi> :)
[07:16] <Balsaq> should i say the sentences backwards?
[07:17] <Sysi> hard to type in dark
[07:18] <Balsaq> ok maybe the google is better
[07:18] <Sysi> teacher left us to watch video
[07:19] <Balsaq> Ihmettelen, jos puhun nyt Suomen
[07:19] <Balsaq> did it work?
[07:19] <Sysi> betterly
[07:20] <Sysi> that's bad, but understandable
[07:20] <Balsaq> i can live with bad as long as it can be fully understood
[07:21] <Sysi> there's alsp the thing that you say things differently in english
[07:21] <Balsaq> i know
[07:21] <Balsaq> thats why it is difficult
[07:22] <_blink_> Yo anyone know how to run .py scripts in xubuntu
[07:22] <Sysi> you need to install some kind of python to do that, and use it
[07:23] <_blink_> Yeah i installed python
[07:23] <_blink_> but when i click on the file it opens with a text editor
[07:24] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11009
[07:25] <_blink_> that method doesnt work with xubuntu :(
[07:29] <Sysi> did you try adding that line?
[07:29] <Sysi> " found out that I need to add "#!/usr/bin/python" to the script."
[07:29] <_blink_> yeah there is no property box on right click in xubuntu
[07:30] <Sysi> when it opens on text editor, add that one line on top of it
[07:30] <Sysi> ans save file
[07:39] <Blank__> is there an easy way to get nautilus working properly (and effectively replace thunar)?
[07:40] <Blank__> it seems to start up every boot, and when my desktop shows, it switches to my old gnome desktop for a second, then back to my xfce one... i'm wondering if that's related to my attempts to run nautilus previously
[11:31] <gypsymauro> hello
[11:33] <gypsymauro> I tried xubuntu but it's very slow on my hw, I tried puppylinux and is much more faster and I discovered on forums that fluxubuntu is faster too, but it seems a dead project, any hint?
[11:34] <knome> about what?
[11:35] <gypsymauro> if there is a ubuntu based distro lighter than xubuntu or a way to speed up xubuntu :)
[11:36] <TheSheep> try lubuntu
[11:36] <Myrtti> gypsymauro: install using mini.iso and install DE + apps as you wish
[11:37] <Myrtti> no need to stick into pre-chosen compilations of software
[11:37] <dirktux> buen dia comunidad:
[11:38] <dirktux> consulta: como hacer que xubuntu consuma menos memoria ram
[11:39] <TheSheep> !es | dirktux
[11:39] <dirktux> ok tanks
[11:40] <knome> hey Myrtti :) haven't seen you in a bit
[11:40] <Myrtti> knome: life intruded
[11:41] <knome> Myrtti, yeah, i can imagine :)
[13:08] <eXpl0i7> how to get my headphones to work in xubuntu 9.04?
[13:09] <eXpl0i7> some solution?
[13:10] <eXpl0i7> i tryed some stuf from ubuntu forums but don't work
[13:23] <TheSheep> eXpl0i7: click on the speaker icon in your panel and slide the headphones slider from 0
[13:24] <eXpl0i7> i tryed this
[13:24] <eXpl0i7> in mixer phone is set to max volume and not muted
[13:25] <TheSheep> not phone
[13:25] <TheSheep> phone is for phone
[13:25] <TheSheep> headphines
[13:25] <TheSheep> headphones
[13:25] <eXpl0i7> i not have headphones
[13:26] <TheSheep> that explains it
[13:26] <eXpl0i7> phone  = headphones
[13:26] <knome> eXpl0i7, no. phone is not headphones.
[13:26] <TheSheep> imaginary headphones won't work
[13:26] <TheSheep> buy some headphones first and then try
[13:26] <knome> TheSheep, ^_~
[13:27] <TheSheep> sorry, I will go now and come back when I calm down
[13:29] <eXpl0i7> http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/Ov3rf10w/Screenshot.png
[13:29] <eXpl0i7> seee this
[13:29] <eXpl0i7> i checked all in select controls
[13:43] <TheSheep> eXpl0i7: are yor headphones special in any way?
[13:43] <TheSheep> eXpl0i7: wireless? usb?
[13:44] <eXpl0i7> no
[13:44] <TheSheep> is this a laptop?
[13:44] <eXpl0i7> no
[13:44] <eXpl0i7> :)
[13:45] <TheSheep> you connected them to the socket at the back? (the front one could be unconnected)
[13:45]  * TheSheep is running out of ideas
[13:46] <eXpl0i7> my headphones work on windows
[13:46] <eXpl0i7> i ahve speakers and headphones connected
[13:46] <eXpl0i7> i have*
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[15:42] <hapik> hello
[15:42] <cody-somerville> Hi
[15:43] <hapik> How to put NetworkManager (nm-applet) at pannel?
[15:44] <Sysi-> it comes to notification area when you start it
[15:44] <cody-somerville> It'll automatically show up in...
[15:44] <cody-somerville> What Sysi- says :)
[15:44] <Myrtti> hapik: in most cases it runs by default in notification area
[15:47] <hapik> Myrtti: yes, it is. But I don't need notification area with all applications/icons - all I need is NetworkManager on pannel
[15:48] <Sysi-> you don't get it there without notificaton area
[15:49] <Myrtti> and applications/icons shouldn't really be there anyway
[15:49] <Sysi-> if you're not willing to create launcher for that what i strongly doubt
[15:51] <hapik> well, that's a pity, lancher is not an option; notification area shows Gnome-power-manager, Orange, Gnomve-volume-control, web browser etc.
[15:52] <Myrtti> web-browser? o_0
[15:52] <hapik> Opera in my case
[15:53] <Myrtti> so opera does it wrong
[15:53] <knome> maybe opera has an option not to show up in the notification area
[15:53] <knome> you can also disable orage from notification area from the preferences
[15:53] <knome> probably also drop gnome-volume-control
[15:53] <knome> and the power-manager
[15:55] <hapik> hmm, I was not thinking about disabling this was, have to check it, anyway it is a little bit strange that I cannot put this applet on pannel when in gnome it is a default options
[15:57] <maverick_> pidgin-libnotify just uses the libnotify package and not the notification-daemon right?
[16:02] <Myrtti> hapik: I don't think it's an applet even in Gnome
[16:04] <hapik> I think it was, e.g. a picture on http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/
[16:05] <hapik> but it doesn't matter, I removed orage; now, how to edit menu entry options in xfce?
[16:05] <subspider> hey guys how do i extract files from rar file
[16:06] <subspider> i'm using unrar x "file"
[16:06] <subspider> but just creates de folders
[16:07] <Myrtti> subspider: use e
[16:08] <subspider> i allready used it
[16:08] <subspider> same output
[16:08] <subspider> there is onother program
[16:10] <TheSheep> rar x "file"
[16:14] <tavasti> in karmic there is no 'grip' package, suggestions for cd-ripping software
[16:14] <Myrtti> exaile can do it, IIRC
[16:17] <subspider> Myrtti, yes it extracted the files but now in doesn't create folders
[16:18] <tavasti> better suggestions?
[16:19] <knome> tavasti, sound-juicer
[16:20] <tavasti> ok, I'll give it a try
[16:21] <knome> tavasti, it's not as configurable as grip, but i started using it as well after grip
[16:25] <tavasti> hmm, I would prefer something more configurable, but have to with this for now
[16:28] <maverick_> i have 2 questions: 1. How can i stop the notications from notification-daemon stop overlapping the panel, 2. How can i make xubuntu not load apps of the previous session on restart
[16:29] <subspider> i need help to extract files from rar file please someone help me
[16:29] <ochosi> ad 2: close all programmes, untick the "save session" tickbox and logout
[16:29] <ochosi> maverick_ ->
[16:30] <maverick_> ochosi: o
[16:30] <ochosi> subspider, sudo apt-get install unrar
[16:30] <maverick_> *ok
[16:30] <ochosi> subspider, then "unrar e archive.rar"
[16:30] <subspider> ochosi, i know i have the problem is extracting the files it give me error
[16:31] <ochosi> subspider, what error?
[16:31] <subspider> the same file on wirar it opens perfectly
[16:31] <subspider> ok wait
[16:31] <ochosi> yeah, actually unrar is not perfect in linux. i experienced problems with some archives too. mostly it should work though
[16:32] <ochosi> subspider, btw, are you using unrar or unrar-nonfree?
[16:32] <ochosi> subspider, sry, meant unrar or unrar-free
[16:32] <ochosi> subspider, depending on which you use you could give the other one a try
[16:33] <subspider> hm
[16:33] <subspider> i unistall and intall and now its working just fine
[16:33] <subspider> wierd
[16:33] <subspider> same comand
[16:33] <subspider> unrar x "file.rar"
[16:33] <ochosi> k
[16:34] <subspider> theres onother thing
[16:34] <subspider> my menu bar
[16:34] <subspider> everything is at left side i can't move to right side do you guys know why??
[16:35] <ochosi> you might be able to change that in the gtkrc of the theme you're using. tbh i've never seen a right-aligned menubar
[16:36] <charlie-tca> missing the spacer
[16:36] <subspider> i didn't do that i just resatrated a few months and it stayed like that
[16:37] <charlie-tca> subspider: right-click the panel, add, separator
[16:37] <subspider> ok
[16:37] <charlie-tca> Then you can move items to the right
[16:39] <subspider> yea it worked
[16:39] <subspider> it's satrnge
[16:39] <subspider> lol
[16:39] <subspider> thanks guys
[16:40] <ochosi> oh, no i see what you meant with "menubar" :)
[16:40] <ochosi> no -> now
[16:40] <maverick_> anyway i can change the sad notification-daemon that comes along with xubuntu, which is not transparent and overlaps the bloody panel?
[16:41] <ochosi> maverick_, if you're using xubuntu karmic (9.10) then you're using notify-osd which is quite unconfigurable
[16:41] <ochosi> (unless you recompile of course)
[16:42] <maverick_> yes, i am in karmic, but i dont have any idea, how to configure it, i tried removing notification-daemon to replace it with xfce4-notifyd which was a bit better
[16:42] <maverick_> i just installed notify-osd now
[16:42] <ochosi> as i said: notify-osd isn't really configurable. it's a design decision.
[16:42] <subspider> but it's not th way i like charlie-tca
[16:43] <subspider> i put many space bars but i can make it go to the end of the bar
[16:43] <subspider> now i do sorry
[16:43] <subspider> newbee
[16:43] <maverick_> ochosi: i liked xfce4-notifyd, but it isnt compatible with pidgin-libnotify
[16:43] <TheSheep> you only need one and make it expand
[16:47] <charlie-tca> subspider: you can normally only use one spacebar, then right click the icon want to move, leftclick and hold down the button, move to the other end of the bar and release
[16:47] <charlie-tca> You only have two places to put them in Xubuntu, left side or right side
[16:48] <subspider> yes sorry charlie-tca
[16:49] <subspider> now it's the way i had thank you very much
[16:55] <charlie-tca> no problem
[17:20] <petsounds> charlie-tca, hi.. i have question what is the easiest way to reset panel in xubuntu? thanks
[17:23] <charlie-tca> !panels | petsounds
[17:24] <petsounds> charlie-tca,  oops i think there's no trigger for this. Merci :)
[17:25] <charlie-tca> What do mean? they won't come back?
[17:26] <petsounds> charlie-tca, no no. what i'm trying to say is when i pull the trigger for !resetpanels the command line is for gnome
[17:28] <charlie-tca> that's because it is a gnome desktop specific item. Use !panels here to see xubuntu panels help
[17:28] <petsounds> roger that. thanks..
[17:29] <hapik> I still have a problem with removing "gnome-volume-control-panel" from notification area. Does anyone know a solution?
[17:29] <hapik> !panels
[17:29] <charlie-tca> hapik: what version of Xubuntu are you using?
[17:30] <hapik> 9.10
[17:32] <charlie-tca> try applications -> settings -> session and startup, application autostart tab, uncheck it. It won't start next time you start xubuntu then.
[17:36] <hapik> charlie-tca: thanks, I will try it, rebooting now
[17:51] <Eltornado> hello
[17:51] <Eltornado> using xubuntu 9.10 i got a loop login screen since i enabled then disbled the option "display session chooser on login"
[17:52] <Eltornado> i use gdm
[17:53] <Eltornado> now after enabling that option using xdm i cass access my desktop using gdm again but i have to choose the last session to log in
[17:54] <hapik> something went wrong, after unchecking autorun of volume_setup, X window is down. startx works from root account. Where is a user file of autorun application to edit it manually?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> hapik: /etc/xdg/
[17:57] <hapik> charlie-tca: no files in /etc/xdg/autostart were changed today
[17:57] <charlie-tca> you should have a file /etc/xdg/autostart/XFCE-volume daemon in there
[17:58] <hapik> yes, it is: 2009-09-05 22:28 xfce4-volumed.desktop
[17:58] <charlie-tca> should not matter, though, the only thing it does is multimedia keys.
[17:58] <charlie-tca> What about volume control?
[17:58] <hapik> ?
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Is there a file called volume control?
[17:59] <hapik> no
[17:59] <hapik> oh, sorry, it is, but it's old file again
[17:59] <charlie-tca> That is the right one to remove then. It should not affect the startup at all, since all it does is control volume from the panel
[17:59] <hapik> 2009-10-07 19:04 gnome-volume-control-applet.desktop
[18:00] <charlie-tca> That is the one you wanted gone.
[18:01] <charlie-tca> What did you uncheck?
[18:01] <hapik> volume regulation
[18:06] <charlie-tca> startx did not get you to a desktop?
[18:07] <hapik> ok, I unchecked "volume_settings" (or something similar - don't know the proper name in english) in application autostart of session manager
[18:08] <hapik> startx doesn't get me to a desktop
[18:08] <charlie-tca> that should not have caused the system not to start. did you get a gdm login screen?
[18:09] <hapik> got white mouse on black background and information about posibility of running in low resolution
[18:09] <hapik> it didn't work although
[18:10] <hapik> i think i will log out and i will check it again
[18:10] <hapik> brb
[18:21] <hapik> "ubuntu is running low-graphics mode" ... "your screen, graphics card, and imput device sttings could not be detected correctly" ... run ubuntu in low-graphics mode ... Fatal error: Server is already active for display 0
[18:22] <hapik> although root account works o.k.
[18:23] <charlie-tca> go into the desktop in low graphics mode, it will still let you login, I think. Then you can go to the settings and check that back in.
[18:24] <hapik> it doesn't log in low graphics mode
[18:35] <hapik> charlie-tca: I will go with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reinstalling nvidia drivers - is it sensible?
[18:36] <charlie-tca> worth a try
[18:57] <hapik> problem: startx doesn't run from user account, although it runs from root account; removing .config didn't help; coping .config from root to user didn't help; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work - I have no other ideas
[18:58] <hapik> has anyone any suggestions?
[22:58] <subspider> hey charlie-tca are you there
[23:02] <charlie-tca> yeah
[23:03] <subspider> nothing sorry
[23:03] <subspider> thanks charlie-tca
[23:03] <charlie-tca> you are welcome
[23:03] <subspider> it was how to run in command a windows app with wine
[23:03]  * charlie-tca thinking that was almost too easy
[23:04] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about windows or wine except to not drink and drive
[23:04] <subspider> hahahahaha
[23:04] <subspider> nice one