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crimsunaxiom: that's a metapackage anyhow; no big deal00:00
marcosRzI wonder00:01
marcosRzwhen Kpackagekit will have at least the basic features of synaptic?00:01
marcosRzwhere can I suggest this?00:01
BluesKajhmm, kubuntu-restricted-extras is agiven if you have all the repos enabled00:04
FloodBotK2!netsplit00:24
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:24
francusahola00:28
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illunaticarg! my panel is gone altogether now00:48
illunatictaskmaneger, trays etc00:48
illunaticK menu00:48
illunaticcan i jsut set it to default?00:48
illunaticarg00:53
mark___hi all00:53
illunatichi00:53
mark___How do update this to the latest version00:53
illunaticin the k menu somewhere00:54
illunaticmaybe it was settings?00:54
illunatici'd tell you where exactly, but my panel is gone and i don't know how to get it back00:54
mark___I would love to get rid of windows00:54
illunaticlol00:55
illunaticsrsly nobody know how to get the defaul panel/task manager back huh?00:55
mark___How do I go into 2 screen mode ?00:56
geniiillunatic: You could last-resort: mv ~/.kde ~/.oldkde           then restart X server00:57
illunatichttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8610915&postcount=800:58
illunaticthanks i'll give it a go00:58
mark___Ahh, also sound card will not play audio apart from system sounds ????00:59
mark___I also have a tv plugged into the rs232 port, works fine in windows but not on this OS01:00
* genii ponders this magical serial-port television01:02
mark___Just a tv plugged into the the pc, via a serial port, extends destop to 3 screens01:05
mark___Well, 2 video cards, thats all01:05
wizkoder_mark___: works out of the box?01:07
Klettthere can be 2 mice at the same time01:07
Klett2 mouse01:07
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Klettone ps2 one usb01:09
mark___This pc is over 6 years old but going strong, I tried red hat years ago, could not get on with it. I have waited 2 months for an interenet connection from talk talk in the uk, just got it going on the net tonight !01:10
andy_test01:10
_2i'm needing to clear the routing table for a clean setup within a script   anyone know the easy way to do this ?01:13
illunaticsuccess :D thanks genii01:13
_2something like    route del *     would be nice ;/01:13
* illunatic goes back to work01:13
geniiillunatic: np01:13
_2?01:14
mark___Right people, What a brilliant way to get help.01:16
mark___I will be back !01:17
mark___:)01:17
_2mark___ :)01:18
xprotocoolhello world?01:20
xprotocoolhello world01:23
genii!hi | xprotocool01:26
ubottuxprotocool: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!01:26
_2i guess not01:47
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BLLSHThello02:24
BLLSHTI am currently using firefox 3.5 on kubuntu 9.1002:24
BLLSHTanybody knows how can I upgrade it to 3.6?02:24
BLLSHTI cannot find the update option anywhere in firefox02:24
BLLSHThowever in windows it was easy02:25
geniiBLLSHT: Add the repository at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa   it has the 3.6 available to install02:30
BLLSHTand after that apt update right?02:30
geniiBLLSHT: After adding the repo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.602:33
BLLSHTwill this replace the 3.5 with the 3.602:33
BLLSHTbut keeping my extensions and tabs right>02:34
BLLSHT?02:34
geniiBLLSHT: No, it will install 3.6 Your 3.5 will stay unless you remove it02:34
BLLSHTdamn it02:34
BLLSHThaha02:34
BLLSHTand some ppl claim things are easier in linux02:34
BLLSHTlol02:35
BLLSHTok i will try02:35
BLLSHToh i better dont02:36
BLLSHTi have a lot of saved passwords02:36
BLLSHTforms02:36
BLLSHTcookies02:36
BLLSHTetc02:36
BLLSHTI am lazy to re type em on the other version02:36
BLLSHTis there any way to update it instead of install a clean new version? just like in windows?02:37
wizkoder_BLLSHT: Use windows! Guess its better for you!02:49
geniiBLLSHT: You can only update between minor versions... eg: 3.5.1 -> 3.5.99    but not between major revisions like 3.5 -> 3.6 without installing the new version02:50
james_lDoesn't firefox reserve x.y.90+ for development releases like KDE does?02:54
geniijames_l: Possibly02:54
alfonsosss02:58
geniiHm02:58
xrandrgot a question. Can anyone tell me why I keep getting packet loss on my wireless router when my signal is either good or fair?03:03
xrandrguess not03:03
illunaticpdf editor that i can sign a pdf with? :)03:29
illunaticsuggestions?03:29
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CrazyDoodelol... heychanops... I really think that this #kubuntu-unregged  is really huge step backward which a lot of newbs just won't understand.. isn't +R enuf?04:31
CrazyDoodejust to continue the rant for another para.. if I'm installing kubuntu on a friends box and I need to ask the !bot  I need to reg? see.. that's really dumb.04:34
CrazyDoode!dumb04:43
ubottuThe only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious to you -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.04:43
veve-maollll: ;l;k04:45
jeponghello... upgrade my kubuntu karmic to KDE 4.4 RC2 now i have 2 panel... is this a bug?05:05
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Rav3nSw0rdI removed konqueror thinking that it was just the browser, but afterwards, my desktop went bye bye, so then I reinstalled konqueror, but my desktop isn't coming back... is there any way to fix this without a complete reinstall?06:10
APERSONis there an easy way to drag widgets around on a panel?  I don't see a way to just 'drag and drop' them06:13
tony32i'm trying to kill wineserver but it won't kill.. any tips?06:47
tony32also, what's the legal repercussions of killing it?06:47
tony32nvm winserver -k -9 seemed to do it06:52
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naftilos76hi guys, i occasionally get a message that 'kontact' is already working and that if i choose to open a second instance of it i could encounter data loss! That happens, sometimes, after a reboot! I remember that happenning since the days of KDE 3.5! I'm currently running Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE upgraded to 4.3.4. Can anyone suggest anything on this?07:32
naftilos76Anyone?07:39
[jwill_is_afk]_naftilos76: Never happened to me, sorry.07:40
Rav3nSw0rdditto that07:40
naftilos76thnks man...07:40
[jwill_is_afk]_naftilos76: Try killing it?07:41
[jwill_is_afk]_Murder usually helps.07:41
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RaiN88Hi08:43
RaiN88Hi everyone08:43
RaiN88!Kubuntu08:44
ubottukubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde08:44
SilentDishello :)08:58
SilentDis_I would like to image a disk to a file, for use in virtual box.  I have a legit copy of WinXP sitting on my netbook, and I'd just like to push it into a VM where it's more useful to me (for older games)09:00
dimasikВсем привет !!! Я здесь в первые, ктонить раскажет что и как ?09:11
Tm_T!ru | dimasik09:13
ubottudimasik: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke09:13
dimasikспс за подсказку09:14
Tm_Tdimasik: onlu english here, thanks09:14
dimasikTm_T: спс. тольк я по англ. не понимаю :)09:16
meowkbuntuhi i dont have gedit what application does kde use09:25
Koliameowkbuntu: kate09:25
meowkbuntuthanks09:25
oupaI just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, now I'm having trouble connecting from my Mac to the printer on my Kubuntu box09:32
oupaI can print OK from the Kubuntu server, but I can't connect over the network09:33
oupaAny suggestions? It was working OK on 9.0409:34
tony32how do i show the menu in konsole?09:43
tony32i accidentally the konsole09:43
meowkbuntui have just installed wine but i cant browse cdrive says the directory does not exist.09:48
meowkbuntuthis is strange as its a new install.09:49
meowkbuntuhello anyone there09:55
meowkbuntui have just installed wine but i cant browse cdrive says the directory does not exist.09:55
meowkbuntuhello09:58
tsimpsonmeowkbuntu: you should try running winecfg09:58
meowkbuntuwhat will that do i can edit cdrive info there09:59
meowkbuntui tryed that09:59
tsimpsonit's the general configuration utility for wine, you can change any drive09:59
meowkbuntunot cdrive i just tride ok10:00
meowkbuntui can edit any other not the default c drive10:00
meowkbuntukubuntu has issuse like this at times10:00
tsimpsonthat's not a kubuntu issue, it's a wine issue10:00
meowkbuntunope similar issuse with other apps10:01
meowkbuntuthis time its with wine yes10:01
tsimpsontry running a wine app, like notepad, that should create the c_drive10:01
meowkbuntuso how do i get wine to point to the proper directory and not the one it tryes to10:01
tsimpsonit should be "../drive_c"10:02
tsimpsonwhich corresponds to ~/.wine/drive_c/10:02
meowkbuntuah if i edit the kmenu that may work10:03
meowkbuntunope it dont wont kmenu wont point to hidden files10:04
Rav3nSw0rdhow do I get openssh-server to start automatically upon startup?10:09
tsimpsonit should already do that10:09
tony32anyone know how to get the menu back in konsole?10:09
Rav3nSw0rdhmmm, maybe it does10:10
Rav3nSw0rdbut I can't connect to my computer regardless10:10
Rav3nSw0rdany ideas?10:10
Rav3nSw0rdoh, nevermind, it must be the lack of sleep, I was connected to the wrong network, sorry, XD10:11
souvikHi, Everybody...10:18
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iconmefistotony32: did you get the menu back in konsole?10:34
tony32no, no big deal but afraid i might need to get it back one day10:35
iconmefistotony32: right-click in the konsole window, show menu bar10:35
tony32i tried, don't see the option10:36
etaliHi, I'm trying to install Kubuntu and I'm getting out of range errors on my monitor (Even if I try to install in Safe Graphics Mode).  Is this a common problem?  I'd be grateful for any workaround suggestions.10:42
iconmefistotony32: you don't see this menu? http://imagebin.ca/view/JZEbBio.html10:42
meowkbuntuetali: can you run kubuntu loive cd ok10:44
tony32iconmefisto: thanks for the troubleshooting. i'm an idiot. apparently i was clicking on or around the titlebar and not the center of konsole10:44
tony32fixed. thanks10:44
snikkerhi, there is a way to format a usb pendrive with iso9660 filesystem?10:44
meowkbuntusnikker: what file system is that10:45
etaliTrying that now :)  Silly me just assumed it would be OK because I was running Ubuntu on this machine until yesterday.  Took some xorg.conf tweaking to get a sensible res in Ubuntu, but at least it installed...10:46
snikkermeowkbuntu: it's a cdrom filesyste10:46
snikker*filesystem10:46
meowkbuntusnikker: doent sound like a common type of file system10:46
meowkbuntusnikker: what are you trying to do with flashdrive exactly10:46
meowkbuntusnikker: if you are trying to put a live cd onto it you got wrong idea about it10:47
ToxinPoweyou can change the topic, RC2 is out, http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4-rc2.php10:47
meowkbuntu!topic10:48
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:48
tsimpsonmeowkbuntu: it's not packaged, so no10:48
meowkbuntu!off-topic10:48
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:48
snikkermeowkbuntu: iso9660 is common used on every cdrom  (it's read-only fs) and a nedd a ready-only fs for my pen drive.10:48
snikkermeowkbuntu: i don't want to put a live cd on my pen drive10:48
etalimeowkbuntu: LiveCD does the same thing - it's defaulting to 93khz H Frequency.  This is a flatscreen monitor, in Ubuntu I had to force the freqeuncies to 60hz before it would display...10:49
meowkbuntusnikker: y not just leave flash drive to fat 32 works for every thing you need.10:49
meowkbuntusnikker: now what do you need that fs for10:49
meowkbuntuetali: its your brand of moniter i think run live cd in in compatability mode10:50
snikkermeowkbuntu: fat32 is a read/write fs. i need r/o fs so no one can delete files by misteke10:50
snikker*mistake10:51
meowkbuntuetali: have you also looked at bios settings on you comp that may be problem there10:51
meowkbuntusnikker: ok just to make sure is that fs work on windows, mac and linus10:52
meowkbuntu* linux10:52
etalimeowkbuntu: Just nabbed another monitor, having the same problem.  Trying LiveCD in safe graphics mode now.  What would I be looking for in the bios?10:52
snikkermemenode: yes this fs work on windows,linux and mac10:53
meowkbuntuetali: i dont know something to do with screen or its your screencard10:53
meowkbuntu* screen or monitor10:54
iconmefistosnikker: look at usb startup disk creator. a livecd will not keep any files or settings created in a session unless you set it up to do that10:55
snikkericonmefisto: ok, i'll try it. thanks10:56
meowkbuntuetali: you can encrypt the pen drive10:59
etalimeowkbuntu: I think that was aimed at snikker?10:59
etalimeowkbuntu: Can't see anything in my bios that would make any difference :(  It seems odd the installer is defaulting to 93khz...11:00
etalimeowkbuntu: Thanks for trying to help. I'll try it again later with a monitor that can definitely support that frequency.  Can always edit xorg.conf once it's installed.11:03
meowkbuntuetali: screen card it must be11:04
meowkbuntusnikker: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Storage/Removable_Backup_Media/Q_24076137.html11:04
meowkbuntusnikker and this   http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CA0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raymond.cc%2Fforum%2Fsoftware%2F5866-how-to-make-usb-flash-drive-read-only.html&ei=98teS6KFOYGTkAXPnrXlCw&usg=AFQjCNE2Y0pvowHA-oJgwYV8En_XLNWHtQ&sig2=B4CxXBXdVMbQSlTeXfZkVA11:05
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meowkbuntusnikker: and also this http://www.shivaranjan.com/2008/09/14/write-protect-read-only-your-usb-drive-with-usb-write-protector/11:05
meowkbuntusnikker: thats some reading for you11:06
meowkbuntuetail how long have you been using ubuntu11:06
snikkermeowkbuntu: thanks11:07
meowkbuntusnikker: np. you could easily google took me 5 mins to find the right thing to google11:08
meowkbuntuetali: are you here atm11:08
etalimeowkbuntu: Hi, sorry, running between two pcs :)11:08
meowkbuntuetali: if doing that a polite brb would be nice11:09
etalimeowkbuntu: I've been using ubuntu for quite a while.  This particular PC is a testing machine.  It was running the Ubuntu Lucid QA build.11:09
etalimeowkbuntu: sorry, didn't expect to be away more than a couple of seconds.11:09
meowkbuntuetali: how long have you been using ubuntu/kubuntu etc11:09
meowkbuntuetali: i gtg soon if you cant stay for few minuts and chat i will go now11:11
etalimeowkbuntu: Been using Ubuntu for a few years.  Tried Kubuntu off and on, but bit of a kde newbie.11:11
meowkbuntuok did ubuntu work on this computer11:11
etalimeowkbuntu: I answered that question for you a few lines up - assumed you'd seen that....no need to be so hostile11:11
meowkbuntui am not11:12
etalimeowkbuntu: Ubuntu worked fine, which is why I was suprised Kubuntu won't get through the installer.11:12
meowkbuntujust trying to help need to ask questions11:12
meowkbuntuso ubuntu was not that great either11:12
etalimeowkbuntu: Ubuntu installed OK, needed tweaking to get a decent res, but it would at least install :)11:13
meowkbuntuwas ubuntu easy to set up over all11:13
etalimeowkbuntu: Yeah - installed with no trouble, just decided my max rez was something like 1024x768.  Had to edit the xorg.conf to get the actual max (1920x1050).11:14
meowkbuntuthere are a few ways i would suggest. first you could look at upgrading screencard. if ubuntu worked should not need to11:14
meowkbuntu2 you could install ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop along with it. only thing is that you will get all applications comming up on each desktop11:15
meowkbuntuor you could look at linux mint. they have a kde version there.11:16
meowkbuntuhttp://www.linuxmint.com/11:16
etalimeowkbuntu: thanks, I'll take a look at that.11:16
etalimeowkbuntu: There's no way to force the installer to use a different res / frequency?11:16
iconmefistoetali: there probably is a way around this. can you start the livecd in recovery mode and login in text mode?11:18
meowkbuntuetali: actually there may be11:18
etalimeowkbuntu: iconmefisto: I think I can get to the recovery mode, will just try now.11:19
meowkbuntulook in forums there you should find the commands to type you go into live cd boot press 1, f2 etc then you can input options you want11:20
iconmefistoetali: another simple thing you might want to try: unplug the monitor from the computer, start up livecd, then when it seems like it's done, plug in the monitor and see if it works11:23
etaliiconmefisto: Thanks.  Will try that too.11:24
etaliSadly these two computers are as far as it's possible to be from each other in the house :/11:25
meowkbuntuetali: if you need to old graphics cards are cheep as you can get one to test if need11:25
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etalimeowkbuntu: We have spare graphics cards lying around.  Would prefer not to have to change the card though.11:29
lyhana8hi, how do I check for broken package ?11:34
lyhana8I upgrade to kde4.4-rc2 and got trouble with plasma-desktop11:34
Daughaindpkg to check, as I recall.11:34
lyhana8Daughain: well I want to check the whole database, not only one package11:35
jussi01meowkbuntu: did you run winecfg ? (re: question in -offtopic)11:35
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meowkbuntujussi01: did not work11:37
meowkbuntujussi01: i managed to get icon in kmenu to point to the right place which it was not set to after install ???11:38
Daughainlyhana8: Google dpkg, I havernt had enugh coffee yet. SOmething like dpkg -l --install, I thikn that checks and installs all broken packages.11:38
meowkbuntuall fine now thanks jussi0111:38
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DaughainOr oen synaptics, and do what it says. Any broken packages wil show up as soon as you open synaptics.11:39
apparleplz tell me a download manager11:42
Tm_Tapparle: Kget11:42
apparleTm_T: it does not provide download acceleration11:43
meowkbuntuapparle: google11:43
meowkbuntuapparle: is it for torrents11:43
apparlemeowkbuntu: no11:43
meowkbuntufirefox has a great download manager addon11:43
apparlemeowkbuntu: which one11:44
apparlemeowkbuntu: ?11:45
meowkbuntuapparle:  look it up on google11:45
meowkbuntuor do you really need ups to spoonfeed you11:46
Tm_Tmeowkbuntu: please stay kind and helpful11:46
Daughainmeowkbuntu: There are times when some of us *do* need to be spoonfed. :P I;ve encountered enough tuts that were beyond me.11:47
meowkbuntuDaughain: Tm_Tyea i get your point. i need a break from irc. you know dealing with ppl for few hours wears you out11:51
apparlemeowkbuntu: I have tried downthemall but it does not provide very good acceleration....although much better than KGet11:53
Daughainmeowkbuntu: Ya, I been there a few times meself. =)11:54
Mamarokapparle: what exactly do you want to download? If the server where you get it from is slow no download manager in the world can accelerate it11:54
apparlemeowkbuntu: When I use FDM on windows.. it gives me a speed of about 2 MB/s but here it is areound 800KB/s11:55
apparleMamarok: ^11:56
Mamarokapparle: well, as I said, that depends on the source11:56
apparleMamarok: same file11:56
Mamarokthen check your connection11:56
apparleMamarok: what?... if I am getting 800KB/s doesn't it mean connection is O11:57
meowkbuntuapparle: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-download-managers-available-in-ubuntu.html11:57
apparleOK11:57
Mamarokapparle: also keep in mind that a server does not always have the same load, it can be fast on day and slow the other11:57
amichairany idea why I suddenly can't join #kubuntu-devel? something about having to be identified?11:59
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DaughainOr even at different times of the day, depending on what the local net is doing.12:02
DaughainI csan watch a marked degradation in dl speeds during the 8-6 timeframes due to greater load of the workday.12:04
Mamarokamichair: you need to register on Freenode:12:04
Mamarok!register12:04
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode12:04
meowkbuntuapparle: you must realise that kubuntu is slightly more bloated than ubuntu12:04
Mamarokamichair: the channel is protected to shield against spammers12:04
DaughainBut, it can be more fun to play with.=)12:05
Mamarokmeowkbuntu: please don't talk rubbish12:05
Mamarokmeowkbuntu: either you give help and stay on topic or you better leave12:05
meowkbuntuand crunchbang is even less bloated again12:05
meowkbuntuok i will12:05
apparlemeowkbuntu: how can you say its bloated....12:05
meowkbuntui am helping apparlewith his download speed problem12:06
Mamarokapparle: please do not discuss this here, that belongs to #kubuntu-offtopic12:06
Mamarokboth, please stay on topic12:06
meowkbuntuamichair: on all ubuntu channels you now need to first regester your nick name first here on freenode then you can get onto any site12:10
Mamarokmeowkbuntu: there is no need to repeat what I already told him...12:12
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Mamarokamichair: Riddell has unset the +R, it should work now12:13
nt_so_nu_noobhello room .. can some one tell me how to change my desktop to kde through the command line12:15
nt_so_nu_noob?12:15
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed already?12:16
nt_so_nu_noobyeah installed it just now12:16
nt_so_nu_noobmy gnome is broke ..12:16
nt_so_nu_noobso cant do it graphically12:16
Mamarokdid you also install kdm? It should have asked you a confirmation12:16
nt_so_nu_noobi chose gdm ...12:17
meowkbuntunt_so_nu_noob: then go to ubuntu for help with that12:17
Mamarokmeowkbuntu: please stop that!12:17
nt_so_nu_noobno i just want to change over to kde for now12:17
nt_so_nu_noobi'll fix gnome myself12:17
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: you should be able to start gdm with 'sudo gdm' from the command line, no?12:18
Mamarokthen you can select the desktop12:18
nt_so_nu_nooblet me try it12:18
meowkbuntunt_so_nu_noob: from login screen you can select what desktop you want to use gnome or kde etc12:18
Mamarokmeowkbuntu: please, do *not* interfere with my support! Last warning!12:19
meowkbuntuok Mamarokbut i'm helping12:19
nt_so_nu_noobok let me explain please ...12:19
Mamarokno, you are not, you are only repeating what I just said, don't do that. I will not warn you again!12:19
DaughainOne of those days, I see.12:20
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: sorry, please go on12:20
nt_so_nu_noobgnome is broken so i cant see any display manager things .. borders and all that12:20
nt_so_nu_nooband i am autologing into gnome12:21
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: ah, that's the problem, I see12:21
nt_so_nu_noobno gdm screen12:21
nt_so_nu_noobi just have my pidgin open12:21
mobmobhey all12:21
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: did you isntall something special that broke your display?12:21
nt_so_nu_noobno ... i think the disk got corrupt ..12:22
mobmobi need some help with wine12:22
nt_so_nu_noobpulled my power cord ..12:22
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: oops, then you should check the disk first12:22
nt_so_nu_noobdid that automatically .12:22
nt_so_nu_noobdidnt help12:23
mobmobmy problem is that in kmenu the icon brows cdrive is pointing in the rong place12:23
MamarokOK, did you try reinstalling ubu ntu-desktop?12:23
mobmobany ideas what to do12:23
Mamarokubuntu*12:23
nt_so_nu_noobno12:23
nt_so_nu_noobi installed kde instead12:23
nt_so_nu_noobso now i need the config file where i can change the default desktop12:23
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: just a second, I need to look that up myself12:24
nt_so_nu_noobi can access the terminal by alt-ctrl-f212:24
amichairMamarok: forgot to say thanks :-)12:24
Mamarokamichair: you are welcome :)12:24
mobmobhey nt_so_nu_noob can you get into the login screen12:24
nt_so_nu_noobno12:25
nt_so_nu_noobits set to auto login12:25
nt_so_nu_noobif i can change that could help too12:25
mobmobok can you boot into gnome at all12:25
iconmefistomobmob: so where is "browse C: drive" pointing to now?12:26
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: that should help: http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en#sessionconfig12:26
Mamarokmobmob: I am already on it12:26
mobmobnt_so_nu_noob: if you can get into gnome to any digree press alt=ctrl=backspace will get you back to login screen12:27
nt_so_nu_noobyes mobmob12:27
nt_so_nu_noobok one sec12:27
mobmobok Mamaroki'll leave you to it.12:27
DaughainBack to spoonfeeding, can someone tell me how to get badblocks to mark the bad sectors so I can reformat with them locked out?12:27
mobmobi have a wine problem atm my problem is that in kmenu the icon browse c drive is pointing in the rong place12:28
iconmefistomobmob: so where is "browse C: drive" pointing to now?12:28
MamarokDaughain: did you check man badblocks?12:29
DaughainMamarok: Yeah, and it didnt make any sense to me. Thats why I am asking here.12:29
iconmefistomobmob: in my install, it points to ~/.wine/dosdevices/c:12:29
MamarokDaughain: trhy that one then: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html12:30
nt_so_nu_noobMamarok alt-ctrl-backspace didnt work12:30
mobmobiconmefisto: ~/documents/.wine/dosdevices/c:     thats not even where wine stores its files   . i know the wine directory is aslways in ~/.wine12:30
mobmobiconmefisto: yes thats where it should point to. this is a new install of wine12:31
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: did you see the link I sent you?12:32
iconmefistomobmob: so you don't have ~/documents/.wine/ but ~/.wine does exist?12:32
mobmobiconmefisto: i am lost is there a way to change settings i'm new to kubuntu12:32
Mamaroknt_so_nu_noob: that should help: http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en#sessionconfig12:32
mobmobiconmefisto: yes it does as it should12:32
iconmefistomobmob: have you tried editing that entry in the menu?12:32
mobmobiconmefisto: ~/.wine/dosdevices/c: is on my hdd12:33
mobmobiconmefisto: no never thought of that interesting lol a doh moment12:33
DaughainThat link make less sense than the badblock man does. :P12:34
mobmobyes should not be too hard for me. thanks iconmefisto12:34
MamarokDaughain: why less sense? It even gives concrete examples12:35
DaughainMamarok:  Because I dont understand the examples. I dont know how to make them work in ubuntu. I dont understand what I am reading. I'm a linux newb, ergo my comment abut spoonfeeding.12:36
MamarokDaughain: how did you find out that you have bad blocks?12:36
MamarokI can't read that far back, sorry12:36
DaughainThe diskmanager says it is failing, and I ost abot half the data on the disk.12:37
Mamarokdiskmanager?12:37
DaughainDIsk utility.12:37
MamarokDaughain: then you should get a new disk ASAP, there is nothing you can repair on a dying disk12:37
DaughainIts an external, I plug it in, and disk utility pops up a wanring the thing is failing.12:37
mobmobMamarok: ubuntu tells you that you do by default did for me when i booted live cd12:38
MamarokDaughain: did you run fdisk on it?12:38
DaughainGee, if that was an opti, I would use it. If possible, I need this disk to last about 3 months for 100G out of 250.12:38
DaughainWhats fdisk?12:38
Mamarokmobmob: sorry, I don't understand your sentence, what are you refering to?12:38
mobmobbad sectors12:38
mobmobok i'll but out12:39
* Daughain chuckles......12:39
MamarokDaughain: fdisk is a file system checker12:39
MamarokDaughain: I guess itŝ a USB disk?12:39
MamarokDaughain: what filesystem is on that dsik?12:39
DaughainYes, WD passport, if it makes any differebce.12:39
Mamarokdisk*12:39
MamarokDaughain: I have several WD passports here, too12:40
DaughainI tried gettig badblocks to work on my own, and reformatted in ext4.12:40
Mamarokyou reformatted after trying badblocks?12:40
DaughainDidnt work.12:40
DaughainYes.12:40
mobmobok how do i run fdisk on wholl hdd at once12:41
Mamarokyou do know that reformatting erases all data on the disk, do you?12:41
DaughainMamarok: I may be new to linux, but I'm not new to hardware.12:41
Mamarokmobmob: you need to know the device address of the disk, then unmount it12:41
MamarokDaughain: sorry, just making sure you understand that12:41
mobmobMamarok: so its best to do it from livve mide like gparted got it12:42
DaughainI already backed up as much as I could get off the disk before I started all this.12:42
Mamarokmobmob: then do 'fdisk /dev/hdxx with xx being the exact device12:42
mobmob* livve mide = live mode12:42
Mamarokmobmob: one at the time, please, let me check with Daughain first12:42
DaughainMamarok: ATM I am not worried about data recovery, I just need to see if I can get 100G useful out of this disk for about three months when I can afforrd to replace it.12:43
mobmobhang on mamCAN I SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT MAY HELP12:43
MamarokDaughain: you should try partitionmanager then, erase the partitions, creat a new one and format it12:43
* mobmob oops not shouting narn capos key again gets in way of the a key12:44
DaughainI'm still tyring to get the disk setup up so the bad sectors will be ignored upon refrmat.12:44
Mamarokmobmob: sorry, but first you are asking me how to run fdisk on a hd, then you say words out of context, that will not help12:44
Mamarokmobmob: also I am already handling the, please do not interfere, it is very disturbing12:45
MamarokDaughain: well, repartitionning does run automatic checks and shuold mark bad blocks12:45
mobmobsome manufactures have software that you can run to fix bad sectors i know segate do.12:45
MamarokDaughain: how old is that disk?12:45
Mamarokmobmob: not the WD passport12:45
Mamarokmobmob: please don't interfere, or you handle this alone, both is a no-go12:46
mobmobjust my 2 cents worth12:46
DaughainMamarok: I'll try that again and see....I have no clue how old the disk is, it came with a used lappy I bought.12:46
* mobmob waits in the corner with some knowledge kept inside12:46
MamarokDaughain: paritionmanager is in the System Settings in KDE12:46
* Daughain knows where it is. =)12:46
Mamarokgood :)12:47
DaughainIn the gui I can find my way around, its when I get to cli I et lost. =)12:47
MamarokDaughain: that comes with time, don't worry12:47
DaughainThe old unix commands I used to know dont work.12:47
* mobmob sing , sing a song, sing out loud , sing out strong.12:47
MamarokDaughain: those should, though, but maybe you know dos commands12:47
DaughainMamarok: Yeah, but I need to get enough of a knowledge base ti understad these tuts.12:47
Mamarokmobmob: please behave!12:47
* mobmob sing of good things not bad12:48
mobmobwell i'm passing time singing12:48
DaughainMamarok: No, this was unix. =)12:48
Mamarokmobmob: stop that, please. This is a warning12:48
DaughainOK lemme try partmananger12:48
Mamarokmobmob: this is a support channel, you are creating useless noise12:48
mobmob=-/12:49
DaughainOK, Gpart shows it as ext4 and umounted.....Just reformat from tere?12:50
Mamarokno, run a test on it first12:50
DaughainMount it first for that?12:50
Mamarokno, you never mount disks for testing12:51
DaughainOk, how do I test it?12:51
mobmoblive cds are the best then you know hdd are not mounted12:51
Mamarokjust a second, I need to fire up partition manager, haven't used it in a while :)12:51
Daughainmobmob: usb drive, doesnt get detected by livecd. :P12:52
mobmobok12:52
Mamarokmobmob: please...12:53
DaughainLivecd only works for master drives.12:53
MamarokDaughain: hm, I just had a partitionmanager crash here, sorry12:55
DaughainMamarok: No worries, I been tinkering with this for over a week now.12:55
DaughainSetting up lanboot was easier than this. =(12:55
MamarokDaughain: could you check the menus? I don't remember the GUI, it might also be a context menu on the partition12:56
DaughainI checked the menus.......NOthing resembling a disk check option shows itself......12:56
Mamarokin the me nu Partion, there is a check option, no?12:57
DaughainIn disk utility I can run a SMART self test, but that just tells me it is gonna fail soon.12:57
MamarokDaughain: is SMART tells you it's gonna fail, then you are probably loosing your time12:58
Mamarokif*12:58
Mamarokthis is more serious than just bad blocks12:58
jussi01Hrm, how does one rotate a page in a pdf doc? is it possible?12:59
DaughainI expect as much, just trying to baby it through a few more months.12:59
DaughainMamarok: Ok, I found the check function, running it now.12:59
Mamarokjussi01: View menu -> Orientation?12:59
JJRhi all12:59
Mamarokin Okular that is12:59
JJRgot a little problem here w/ wicd manager.....anyone willing to help me out13:00
MamarokDaughain: usually SMART indication failure is a matter of hours or days, not months13:00
DaughainMamarok:  I know the song, but, wihtout funds to replace, I need to do what I can. :P Unless ya wanna send me a 120?/ =)13:01
MamarokDaughain: well, you risk data loss, I am not sure it's worth the hassle13:02
Mamarokjussi01: did that work?13:02
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DaughainMamarok: Aside form the detail of learning something I dont know, I have a reason for doing this. The check is done on the disk, now what?? =)13:03
Mamarokwhat are the results?13:03
MamarokJJR: willing, yes, I just can't, sorry :)13:04
DaughainDidint give any.=( JUst said check/re[air done. 'details' gave me nothing of any value. =(13:04
jussi01Mamarok: it works, but is that permanent or just for now?13:04
JJRooook may be later13:04
Daughainrepair.13:04
Mamarokjussi01: try saving it, I never did that before13:05
jussi01Mamarok: it appears to be permanent13:05
Mamaroknice :)13:06
iconmefistojussi01: it's not permanent, but okular remembers the last view/page/orientation etc for each pdf you view13:06
jussi01oh :/13:06
* jussi01 needs to send a modified document to someone. :/13:06
iconmefistojussi01: so if you're on page 10 and you zoom in, then close okular, when you reopen that pdf you'll be back at page 10, zoomed in13:07
jussi01iconmefisto: is there any way to rotate the page at all?13:07
jussi01permanently?13:07
DaughainOk, I'll try the reformat13:07
MamarokDaughain: try reasing the partition, then creating a new one13:07
Mamarokerasing*13:08
iconmefistojussi01: you could try copying the contents, then paste into openoffice and create a new pdf from there13:08
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* Mamarok needs food13:08
DaughainWhats 'create partition table'??13:08
jussi01iconmefisto: no go - its a scanned copy of something that Ive received as a pdf.13:09
MamarokDaughain: that's neede to locate the filesystem13:09
Mamarokif you erase the partition, it is changing the partition table13:09
DaughainCool.....Ok, trying this as ntfs this time.13:10
iconmefistojussi01: is it just one page? if it is, try opening it in gimp, rotating, then save as a new pdf (not sure if gimp can save as pdf though)13:10
DaughainStill not showing any decrease in disk size...???13:12
MamarokDaughain: well, that will show once you recreat a partition and a filesystem13:12
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iconmefistojussi01: install pdfedit. seems quite easy to change page orientation. other edits seem not so straightforward13:14
jussi01iconmefisto: ahh excellent. thanks13:14
DaughainMamarok: I reated a new partition.13:17
DaughainCreated, even.13:18
MamarokDaughain: now you should run fdisk on that partition, still unmounted13:18
Mamarokwhat is the device name?13:18
Mamarokit should read /dev/something13:18
DaughainOh,....That...dev/sdb113:18
DaughainSo, fdisk /dev/sdb113:19
DaughainOr do I need to run it as SU?13:19
Mamarokyes13:20
Mamarokjust a second, I need to check if you need arguments for the filesystem13:20
DaughainOK, lemme try tat....Ok./13:20
DaughainThe argument thing is where I get lost.13:21
DaughainTechnically, trying to understand the argument options and which ones I actually need, is what confuses me.13:21
MamarokDaughain: it should work without arguments13:21
DaughainMamarok:  Thanks.13:21
Mamarokwell, the arguments are to narrow down something or point to something specific usually13:22
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DaughainI understand wat they do, I just get confused by them. Ok, fdisk is asking for a command...??13:23
DaughainOK, got it.13:23
DaughainUmmmm........Ok, I created a new partition via gpart....What exactly am I trying to do in fdisk?13:24
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sobersabrehi. I want to block users from using CDROM drive. What I did was to change /dev/hdc permissions.13:25
sobersabreand removed users I don't want to be able to use the optical drive from the group "cdrom".13:26
Zombie_hello there13:26
sobersabrewhat I have now is that when a "nocdrom" user opening the optical drive, putting in a disc, and after the tray is closed, the drive is LOCKED.13:26
sobersabreSo the user (*a kid*) is annoyed - the disc is locked.13:27
MamarokDaughain: fdisk is checking the filesystem13:27
sobersabreI want to disable automatic mounting for the users not in cdrom group.13:27
iconmefistofdisk checks filesystems?13:27
sobersabreI suspect it is related to hal or dbus, but I can't put my fingers on it.13:27
sobersabreCan somebody direct me ?13:27
Mamaroksobersabre: then you need to change the fstab entry I think13:28
sobersabreMamarok: what do you mean ?13:28
Mamaroksobersabre: to avoid it to automount13:28
sobersabreMamarok: I want SOME users to be able to automount, but some OTHERS - NOT TO.13:28
sobersabreare you sure you realize this ?13:28
DaughainNo, fdisk merely started asking me for commands, and the help option doesnt show anything about an option for checking...Merelt deleting and creating.13:28
iconmefistosobersabre: if a user is not in cdrom group, then it can't do anything with the cdrom13:29
MamarokDaughain: moment, I think I mixed up something13:29
DaughainInterestingly it showed 4 partitions.......I deleted all 4, and am going to create a new one and see what happens next.13:29
sobersabreiconmefisto: but the locked drive is a stupid approach.13:30
sobersabreand It's not usable!13:30
MamarokDaughain: my bad, you need fsck, sorry13:30
sobersabreimagine: a disallowed user comes to an internet coffee in a hurry, puts in a CD to send photos.13:30
sobersabreand the drive is locked.13:30
sobersabreand he now has to go away.13:30
sobersabreor a computer class for kids.13:31
DaughainMamarok: No worries. =)13:31
sobersabrethe kid is dissallowed to use the drive. but why to lock the drive ?13:31
casper3hi~13:31
casper3How to free up more space??13:31
sobersabreiconmefisto: do you disagree with this ?13:31
iconmefistosobersabre: there's a program called setcd that may help. never used it myself13:33
Zombie___hello I'm facing a prob with resolution13:33
iconmefisto!info setcd13:33
ubottusetcd (source: setcd): Control the behaviour of your cdrom device. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-6 (karmic), package size 13 kB, installed size 64 kB13:33
MamarokDaughain: but fsck needs arguments, moment13:33
DaughainHow do I install fsck?13:34
iconmefistoDaughain: it should be installed already13:34
DaughainOk...13:34
sobersabreiconmefisto: thank you for the suggestion. according to package description, it is not related to access control.13:34
EruaranCan't play ogg in any KDE app13:34
Zombie___my resolution resets whenever i start up13:35
MamarokDaughain: that is already installed normally13:35
Zombie___I am using kernel 2.6.33rc2 and 2.6.3213:36
Zombie___both with same problem13:36
DaughainOk, creating a new ext4 partitio.13:36
iconmefistoDaughain: what are you trying to do exactly? just messing around? or trying to solve a problem?13:36
Mamarokiconmefisto: his hd is dying13:36
Zombie___my graphics is intel dg41rq express chipset13:36
Daughainiconmefisto: I am tryig to salvage 100G out of a 250G external drive for about three months.13:36
Zombie___I wanna set the default res to 1280*102413:36
Daughainiconmefisto: Since I cant afford to simply replace it.13:37
Zombie___it got reset to 1024*78013:37
Zombie___whenever I start up13:37
Zombie___what shd I do?13:37
EruaranDoes anyone know why I can't play ogg's in anything but VLC ? Surely I'm not the only one with this problem13:37
MamarokDaughain: but why do you change to ext4 again? Didn't you format as ntfs?13:37
iconmefistoDaughain: you mean there is 100GB "missing" on the disk that you can't allocate?13:37
sobersabreZombie___: <ENTER> key is not a punctuation sign.13:37
sobersabreEruaran: is libogg installed ?13:38
MamarokEruaran: what phonon backend are you using?13:38
Zombie___sorry for that :(13:38
Eruaranxine13:38
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Eruaranlibogg is installed13:38
DaughainMamarok: when I looked at it in fdisk, ot said there were four part6itions on the dis, with two of them overlapping, so, I deleted all partitions, and am having t  reformat. As for ntfs vs ext, its going with a linux notebook, so,m I can use either one.13:38
MamarokDaughain: but since you created a partiotn, you already have a fs on it now, no?13:39
Mamarokpartition*13:39
Mamarokthe more you are reformating, the less long that disk will live IMHO13:39
Zombie___sobersabre: What should I do?13:39
Daughainiconmefisto: NO, I have bad sectors on the disk, and am trying to get 100g miniumum useful out of 250.13:39
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MamarokEruaran: then it should work in Amarok13:40
Zombie___nobody knows?13:40
DaughainMamarok: fdisk was showing a funky error, so, I deleted everything to solve the error.13:40
MamarokDaughain: well, that certainly didn't solve anything13:40
sobersabreZombie___: I don't know.13:40
iconmefistoDaughain: I see. But it doesn't sound like the disk will last very long. it's just going to get worse, not better13:40
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silv3r_m00n installed kubuntu 9.10 and on the desktop moving mouse over a folder shows its inner contents , i want to disable that13:41
EruaranYou would think so...13:41
Mamarokiconmefisto: I already told him that13:42
sobersabreguys. Question: is it possible to allow mount command only for users in a certain UNIX group ?13:42
Daughainiconmefisto: Yes, I am well aware of thAT. I dont need to keep being told something I knew before I started asking in here.=)13:42
sobersabreapparently "user" option allows anybody. any finer grained control ?13:42
LjLi suppose you could set up sudo to allow using mount...13:42
BluesKaj'morning folks13:43
LjLthat'd probably (unless you can finegrain /etc/sudoers more than i have a clue can be done) make users with that access able to mount *anything*, including, say, remount root13:43
MamarokDaughain: but 250 Gb hd don't cost 120 nowadays anymore, for that price you get almost a Tb13:43
DaughainMamarok: I dont care how much it costs, when I dont have the money I still cat buy one.13:45
Daughaincat==cant13:45
iconmefistosobersabre: there is also the "group" option (assuming you're talking about the mount command options)13:45
MamarokDaughain: just don't reformat that drive again, the more you format it the faster it will dy13:45
Mamarokdie*13:45
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sobersabreiconmefisto: I have read this option, but how can the computer know what user inserted a disc ???????13:47
DaughainOk......What am I doing with fsck? I ran it w/o arguments, and it gave me a number of clean sectors, and thats about it.13:47
sobersabreiconmefisto: e.g. there are 2 users logged into the machine currently simultaneously. user1 is cdrom allowed, user2 is not allowed. how can the system know who's hands inserted the CD ? :)13:48
MamarokDaughain: did you get an exit code?13:48
iconmefistosobersabre: it can't know, of course. I'm not sure I understand what you want.13:49
Daughainexit code?13:49
DaughainI see nothing about an exit code13:50
Mamarokwell, if you run fsck it always gives an exit code normally, see man fsck13:50
Mamarokideal would be 013:50
casper3Which package should I install if I want to creat a usplash??13:51
sobersabreiconmefisto: I am helping somebody, remotely. but I am thinking about his problem in a more general way.13:52
sobersabreu probably know it is possible to connect more than 1 monitor, keyboard and mouse to a computer.13:53
sobersabreso I am thinking of this case.13:53
MamarokDaughain: what does 'fsck -M' without other arguments give?13:53
sobersabreI think currently the only solution if we say have M*(monitor+kbd+mouse) on a PC,13:53
sobersabreit would be a requirement to have M optical drives.13:54
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sobersabreforget it :)13:54
Mamaroksobersabre: are you thinking aloud?13:54
sobersabretoo much :)13:55
sladen_sobersabre: it should be the person who has the console (eg. their session is the current X server)13:55
sobersabresladen_: there are multiple displays "consoleless" configurations... how about that...13:55
sobersabreor common console (all the displays are a part of 1 large display residing on the same console of the X (nested X setup)13:56
sobersabreMamarok: this thought has a very narrow market share to think about it :)13:56
Mamaroksobersabre: well, thinking aloud is not a good idea, if everybody does that in a support channel, it creats a lot of noise...13:57
sobersabreMamarok: OTOH it can help me find co-thinkers... so channel-wise it's bad, but sobersabre-wise it's good :)13:58
Mamaroksobersabre: but there is a channel for that: #kubuntu-offtopic :)13:58
EruaranThe only thing I can find on the Ubuntu forums is a guy saying he reinstalled Kubuntu, installed codecs and now he can play oggs13:58
Mamaroksobersabre: since thinking a loud is offtopic here :)13:58
sobersabreMamarok: ok, point taken, thanks.13:58
EruaranIf I have to reinstall I'm installing a different distro13:58
MamarokEruaran: what KDE version do you use?13:58
MamarokEruaran: I am pretty sure reinstalling is not the correct solution :)13:59
Eruaran4.3.213:59
sobersabreEruaran: that different distro is a KDE based one ?13:59
MamarokEruaran: just a moment13:59
Mamaroksobersabre: please, stay on topic...13:59
EruaranI'm not missing any codecs13:59
sobersabreMamarok: I think I am on topic.13:59
Mamarokno, since this is absolutely not relevant to the problem14:00
sobersabreEruaran: are you trying to play ogg files ?14:00
Eruaranyes14:00
sobersabreare you using xine backend ?14:00
Eruaranyes14:00
Mamaroksobersabre: he already said that before...14:01
sobersabredo you have libxine1-all-plugins package installed ?14:01
Mamarok*sigh* I think I need a break, since everybody always interferes with my support, why should I spend my time on it....14:02
Mamaroksobersabre: NO14:02
Mamaroknot that, it drags in pluseaudio, very bad idea!14:02
Eruaransobersabre: Its not installed14:02
MamarokEruaran: don't install that, it will cause more problems than solve any14:03
sobersabreoh, sorry.14:03
noaXess!umts14:03
silv3r_m00non kde 4.3.2 cant i have differente wallpapers on different desktops ?14:03
MamarokEruaran: you did try to play those ogg files with Amarok? What exactly did happen?14:04
noaXesswhat app can i use or do i need for working with a umts usb stick? huawei e22014:04
sladen_sobersabre: if I follow correctly, most of those are 'nests', but the primary console is ultimately the one whose X server can directly talk to the video hardware14:04
sladen_noaXess: network-manager14:04
sobersabresladen_: when several people are connected this is very complicated to determine....14:05
EruaranMamarok: Amarok scans through the files and says there's too many errors in the files and then wont even try to play after that... The same files play just fine in VLC though. They wont work in any KDE app.14:05
MamarokEruaran: in the Multimedia settings, do you have pulseaudio isntalled?14:06
EruaranPulseaudio is listed as an output device14:07
EruaranIt is not the first device though14:07
MamarokEruaran: yu do not use Gnome, don't you?14:07
Eruaranno14:07
silv3r_m00n in kde 4.3.2 when i bring the mouse over a folder in the desktop , a preview opens which shows the inner contents....i want to disable that14:07
silv3r_m00nhow do i do that ?14:07
MamarokEruaran: try the following: sudo aptitude remove pulseaudio-*14:08
Eruaranok14:08
Mamaroksilv3r_m00n: you can't disable the tooltips14:08
silv3r_m00nare those the tooltips ?14:08
Mamarokyes14:08
silv3r_m00nsuch big tooltips , the contents of the folder show up and then further the contents of the inner folder show up14:09
Mamaroksilv3r_m00n: hm, try a right click on the desktop and check if there is an option to disable a preview14:09
silv3r_m00nyah there is14:10
Mamaroksounds like a preview rather than a tooltip14:10
silv3r_m00nbut those are enabled for only images14:10
MamarokEruaran: did it remove something?14:10
sladen_sobersabre: I can't find the answer directly at the moment, google for things like  "pam_console" "udev" "plugdev"14:10
EruaranMamarok: aptitude doesn't find anything matching pulseaudio but it removed  libcanberra0{u} libtdb1{u} libxine1-gnome{u} xulrunner-1.914:10
sobersabresladen_: thanks, I'm ok.14:10
MamarokEruaran: that were the things scheduled for autoremove anyway, no worries14:10
MamarokEruaran: please remove the file called $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and then restart KDE14:12
DaughainMamarok: Sorry, was reading through the fsck man......The -M argument shows nothing that I dont get without it. This is all I get from either command; Travel_Music: clean, 11/15269888 files, 1006245/61049000 blocks14:12
Mamarokand install the kubuntu-restricted-extras, just to make sure at least mp3 works fine14:12
EruaranMamarok: ok, brb14:13
MamarokDaughain: can you mount it?14:16
DaughainMamarok: It mounts.14:17
MamarokDaughain: then type df -h in a konsole and see what size it shows14:17
Eruaranrestricted extras is already installed14:18
MamarokEruaran: try again with Amarok or Dragonplayer14:18
noaXesssladen_: hm.. the default network-manager you mean?14:18
DaughainMamarok: It shows 218G free.....14:19
noaXesssladen_: i have wicd installed..so the default network-manager was removed..14:19
EruaranNeither works14:19
DaughainMamarok: However, it wont let me cxrete fgolders, or copy anything into it....??14:20
Daughaincreate, even.14:21
MamarokDaughain: not even as root?14:21
sladen_noaXess: the device it self should show up as a serial port  (/dev/ttyUSB[0,1,2])  you can use various things to actually start the connection (wvdial, etc) or have NetworkManager automatically do the whole thing and setup the access point (APN) for the specific network14:21
DaughainNever figured out how to move from one drive to another in cli./14:21
MamarokDaughain: try copying something wit sudo cp file.test /thatdrive14:21
noaXesssladen_: so... the device should comes up as modem.. right..14:21
sladen_Daughain: cd /Media/otherdrive14:21
noaXessbut in the moment my system sees only the huawei mas storage cd-rom14:22
Mamarokno need to go into it, just try copying to it14:22
sladen_noaXess: okay, it's broken and needs some fixing.  Poke it with 'usb-modeswitch'14:22
noaXesssladen_: h14:23
noaXesspuh14:23
DaughainNeother mv or cp are working.....Though, I may be using the wrong path, for all I know.14:23
sladen_noaXess: yes, it's nothing more than (ultimately) a serial port you start ppp on14:24
noaXesssladen_: does usb-modeswitch do it automatically?14:24
sladen_noaXess: you (shouldn't) have to worry about any of this.  By default, when you plugin the stick, network-manager should pop up a box that asks you to selecto your country and Telecom provider from a list14:25
MamarokDaughain: df tells you the path, no?14:25
Daughaindf?14:25
Mamarokthe command yu used earlier to see the size14:25
Mamarokyou*14:25
sladen_noaXess: if you've played with the defaults, then you'll have to do a bit more work to make up for that14:26
noaXesssladen_: ok after usb-modeswitch my system sees the GSM modem..14:26
DaughainAh, ok...Lemme try that.....14:26
DaughainThis is part of where I get confused...14:26
noaXesssladen_: and also the cd-rom drive..14:26
sladen_Daughain: use the <tab> completion, to ensure you've got the right paths14:26
noaXesssladen_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/363255/14:26
sladen_noaXess: ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*14:27
tony32how do i uninstall when compiling from source?14:27
DaughainNeed to rename the damn thing...14:27
noaXesssladen_: by the way, i use wicd for my network management.. so i think i will need wvdial.. or what ever.. i would like umtsmon.. but it's not finished for karmic 64bit14:27
sladen_noaXess: the "CD" is an emulated CD that contains drivers necessary to be installed on Win32 systems.14:28
MamarokDaughain: if you use tabcompletion that's not such a problem, type the start of the path and hit the Tab key14:28
noaXesssladen_: okay.. /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1$14:28
noaXesswithout $ :)14:28
BluesKajgetting a bit fed up with dirs dying unexpectedly14:28
EruaranMamarok: I have found the cause of the problem14:28
MamarokEruaran: what was it?14:28
noaXesssladen_: is there any other ppp gui instead of network-manager?14:29
EruaranMamarok: It's a bug... If there a # in the path or the filename, it wont play... remove the # and it plays14:29
DaughainOk, cli worked....14:31
MamarokEruaran: yes, that is a bug in Phonon14:31
MamarokEruaran: while you are at it, get a newer Amarok version here: http://kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.2.214:32
Mamarokit fixes quite some bugs14:32
DaughainI am really beginning to hate dolphin.14:32
EruaranIs there a fix for the phonon bug ?14:32
DaughainOk, I can copy via cli, but not dolphin.14:33
MamarokEruaran: not in the current KDE version, no14:33
EruaranMamarok: Well, at least I know what the problem is now and can get around it14:34
EruaranThanks for your patience14:34
DaughainI need to get a destop working....14:36
BluesKajEruaran, yeah i had to use the cli to copy a small script to /etc/init.d , when konq and dolphin both fail14:36
JJRhi all14:37
BluesKajmake me wonder if nautilus might work better14:37
AlexZionhi everyone, someone has try out KDE 4.4 RC2 on Karmic ?14:37
BluesKajmakes14:37
DaughainBluesKaj: I;m beginning ot think it does...14:38
JJRhave a litttle poblem here w/ wicd anyone willing to help me out to  solve this14:38
BluesKajJJR, which wifi card ?14:38
LjLtony32: sometimes there is "make uninstall", otherwise you'll just have to delete the files manually. that's part of why compiling should be avoided if possible.14:39
sladen_noaXess: probably, but most prople have centralised around NM so things hook into the backend of that now, rather than duplicating it14:39
DaughainMamarok: Thanks for your help, but this thing has me irritated. I think I am going to try and get a desktop up and running and see what happens when I pull the drive out of the case.14:39
JJRatheros communications AR928x14:39
sladen_noaXess: pppd itself has no interface---it something that gets started (in the right order) by the high-level processes14:39
noaXesssladen_: ok.... but i can't use wicd an nm parallel..14:39
EruaranDownloading/installing Amarok 2.2.214:39
tony32ok, thanks. i know better now. it's just the repo's are a little slow with new toys14:39
Eruaran:)14:39
MamarokDaughain: you are welcome, hope you find a solution14:40
JJRBluesKaj : atheros communications AR928x14:40
* Mamarok has to run now14:40
BluesKajJJR, wicd should work with the atheros just fine, what's the symptoms ?14:40
JJRcant connect to my network14:40
sladen_noaXess: haven't got a clue, sorry.  http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/FAQ  states that PPP* are't supported14:41
sladen_noaXess: why not just set up 'wvdial' and run from the commandline14:41
BluesKajwe need more detail, like are you using a passphrase m encryption type etc14:41
noaXesssladen_: i know14:41
noaXesssladen_: i think.. wil luse wvdial.. cause i use it no often14:41
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JJRBluesKaj : cant coonect to my network, a know the key but everytime when i try it says validation.....(blq blq) and after that "not connect")14:42
DaughainMamarok: If I do, I'll let ya know.14:43
BluesKaj!atheros14:43
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:43
noaXesssladen_: so now configute vdial.. where to put the APN?14:45
sladen_noaXess: I tried pasting you but you have some stupid anti privmsg setup14:46
noaXesssladen_: yes.. sorry.. bot sentry..14:47
noaXesswait..14:47
noaXesstry again..14:47
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noaXesssladen: # before Phone?14:52
sladennoaXess: blink?  You probably don't need to pass anything except the +CDGCONT to select the APN14:54
sladennoaXess: the lines starting '#' are comments, so probably weren't necessary14:55
noaXessok14:55
noaXesssladen: SIM PIN required..14:56
noaXesssladen: found something.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63398114:58
sladennoaXess: stick a +CPIN=nnnn  somewhere in there too14:59
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sladennoaXess: or stick the SIM in a handheld phone and disable/set the PIN to 000015:00
noaXesssladen: ATZ+Cpin=1234 +CME ERROR: operation not allowed15:01
noaXessis that why i start wvdial with normal user?15:01
noaXesssam in sudo..15:01
noaXess--> Bad init string.15:02
sladennoaXess: what's the number after the error?15:03
InvaderZimhow do I receive files with kdebluetooth?15:05
JJRhave a little problem connecting to my netowrk using wicd manager anyone willing to help me out15:06
noaXesssladen: where is my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/363271/ and the log...: http://paste.ubuntu.com/363272/15:06
noaXesshere ^15:07
InvaderZimJJR: state your problem already15:07
MarcoPauhello I have problems playing videos like this one http://tv.repubblica.it/copertina/il-garage-piu-piccolo-del-mondo/41767?video it flickers continuously15:08
JJRyep but cant find a solution15:08
InvaderZimJJR: cant help if you dont say your problem15:08
JJRInvaderZim : have a old pc w/ netgear w311t card distributing internet.I create ad-hoc network and im abele to connect to it w/ my other 2 laptops that i have but i cant under linux15:10
JJRInvaderZim : wicd stays alway on "validating (or something like this )15:11
noaXesssladen: ok [Dialer Pin] should be a single part..15:11
InvaderZimJJR: linux box is client?15:12
JJRInvaderZim : nope i have one internet connection and sharing it around the appartment using an old pc15:13
InvaderZimjjr where's the linux?15:13
JJRInvaderZim : 2 of the laptops (my roomates) are under windows 7 and have no problem , i have dual boot w7 and kubuntu15:14
JJRInvaderZim : under w7 everything is ok but when i try to connect under linux i cant15:15
InvaderZimJJR: why you need wicd?15:15
noaXesssladen: got it :)15:16
noaXesssladen: thanks for your help15:16
InvaderZimJJR: i would advise you to use gnome network manager until kde's gets better15:16
JJRInvaderZim :  why not....? it soposed to be yeasy that way one two clicks and ur on the go but doesnt  happen thes way dont know why15:16
JJRInvaderZim :  yea but kinda dont like gnome15:17
InvaderZimJJR: me neither15:17
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InvaderZimJJR: but for wireless gui it has proven the best for me... wicd was good but failed on many occasions. thats me... i never tried ad-hoc with wicd15:18
JJRInvaderZim :  well its like every other network u have a key and just have to use ot to get connect but it seams wicd cant get hold of an ip i guess15:19
InvaderZimJJR: i know what adhoc is, just never needed it15:19
JJRInvaderZim :  hope u never need15:20
JJRInvaderZim :  ok thanks mate15:20
InvaderZimJJR: try connecting by commandline15:20
InvaderZimJJR: with iwconfig, dhcpclient, etc15:21
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daskreechJJR: You can use the Gnome nm-applet in KDe15:21
InvaderZimthats what i tried telling him15:21
JJRInvaderZim :  dhclient says i forgot really ( have to boot in to kubuntu to check out) but at the end says something like " puting into sleep mode "15:22
InvaderZimJJR: i suggest again gnome nm applet... it runs in kde15:23
daskreechJJR: So it connects but never picks up a IP address ?15:23
JJRInvaderZim :  ill try it right now15:23
InvaderZimJJR: wicd will get removed15:24
JJRdaskreech: no it cant connect at all15:24
daskreechJJR: can You set an IP address by hand ?15:24
BluesKajInvaderZim, I tried nm , but it's encryption options are limited to wep , so I can't use it ... wicd is also broken on some wifi setups15:24
InvaderZimBluesKaj: no it isnt, actually the only reason i went to gnome nm was WPA215:25
JJRdaskreech: i tried a couple of times on the machine that gets and distributes the internet but then noone of my roomates cant connect ...so everything is set up on automatic15:25
BluesKajInvaderZim, odd, i tried gnome nm , didn't see any wpa2 options15:26
daskreechwhen?15:26
InvaderZimBluesKaj: maybe you didnt had wpa_supplicant installed?15:26
BluesKajoh it's installed alright15:27
JJRdaskreech: hot to install nm-applet under kde...? like evey other applocation or need some special steps to follow15:29
daskreechlike every other application15:29
InvaderZimJJR: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome15:29
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JJRInvaderZim :  oops the package is broken15:30
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BluesKajInvaderZim, the package manager might be best to install network-manager-gnome. I tbrings along alot of other related packages and dependencies15:33
BluesKajwell, BBL ..errands to do etc15:34
JJRInvaderZim :  ok i take care  of that but now cant find the icon of the network manager i just install15:36
InvaderZimJJR: strange i dont recall installing anything else15:37
InvaderZimJJR: whats the ouput when you run in the console15:38
JJRInvaderZim :  how do i start the manager ...? network-manager typed in terminal says "command not found15:38
shadeslayerdaskreech: ping15:39
InvaderZimInvaderZim: isnt it network-manager-gnome ?15:39
JJRso  how do i start the manager ...? network-manager typed in terminal says "command not found" anyone15:41
InvaderZimJJR: sorry, its nm-applet15:41
shadeslayerok,anyone have kopete-facebook working in kde 4.4?15:42
gorgonizershadeslayer: I do now I have 0.1.5 installed, rather than 0.1.4..15:44
shadeslayergorgonizer: from where?15:44
gorgonizeradd-apt-repository ppa:rohangarg/kde-extra      will give you the correct repo I believe, will just check for you..15:45
shadeslayergorgonizer: lol... thats my repo i wanted to test :D15:45
shadeslayerwell at least it works now :P15:45
gorgonizershadeslayer: oh yeah, forgot it was your repo.. hehe, well yeah, I restarted Kopete this morning after installing your package, and it seems to be functioning a lot better than earlier versions.. usually would have been logged out by now.15:46
noaXesscan someone explain this: if i print any webpage in firefox, i can't change the Paper size... ?15:47
shadeslayergorgonizer: awesome,any other piece of software you want to be uploaded?15:54
shadeslayer( something small,cant work with large packages :) )15:54
shadeslayergorgonizer: oh theres also a awesome browser rekonq,you might wanna try out,its the latest git version15:55
gorgonizershadeslayer: I have your version of rekonq installed, but it has yet to appear in the menu, I think I may have to reboot to get it (for reasons that escape me)15:57
shadeslayergorgonizer: um, just run : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental15:58
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iconmefisto_try running kbuildsycoca4 in konsole, then see if it's in the menu15:59
gorgonizershadeslayer: running now :)  cheers for that15:59
shadeslayergorgonizer: no problem,thatll refresh the system cache and it should appear16:00
shadeslayergorgonizer: btw how did you come to know of my repo? i uploaded packages like just a day ago :P16:01
gorgonizershadeslayer: I have been actively looking for a .deb version of 0.1.5 since I upgraded to KDE SC 4.4 Beta 1 before Christmas.. I initially built it from source, but I was on kubuntu-devel channel where you mentioned it :)16:03
shadeslayerhehe :)16:03
shadeslayergorgonizer: i wanted a small package i could work with... and this was the first thing that came to my mind :P,ill be updating thee rekonq package today16:04
gorgonizershadeslayer: thanks for doing that.. I mean to start learning more about packagin soon, with an eye to help out the Kubuntu guys.. I do like rekonq, look forward to the update :)16:05
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shadeslayergorgonizer: oh cool, packaging is quite easy,i learnt how to effectively use the PPA in about 6 hours :)16:06
shadeslayer( that was day before yesterday :D16:06
gorgonizershadeslayer: that is both impressive and good to know.. I keep meaning to learn Perl, then move onto Qt after I have grasped it :)16:07
shadeslayergorgonizer: yeah same with me with python > Qt16:07
gorgonizershadeslayer: yeah, I would also like to know a python.. hopefully I can wrap my head around the various languages.. :)16:09
shadeslayergorgonizer: hehe :)16:13
kilian_hi, phonon doesn't find my soundcard anymore and the network manager always forgets the connection and password. this all started all of a sudden this morning when I was able to resolve the problem by rebooting16:13
kilian_but now even that doesnt work anymore16:14
kilian_i didnt do any updates/upgrades for at least a week and couldnt find anything on that issue online16:14
JuJuBeein small network, 15 users, should i use server or can i just install desktop and configure as needed16:14
ZoraelIs there an easy way to read changelogs of a non-main repo package? I get them saved in /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.Debian.gz, so I can try to track them down and zcat them, but is there a neater way? aptitude changelog just complains that they're not official packages.16:15
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Tm_TZorael: apt-listchanges ?16:20
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jamabileupdates16:21
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ZoraelTm_T: That takes a .deb as an argument, no? And not a package name16:24
Zorael...and it doesn't output anything, heh. Just says "Reading changelogs... Done"16:25
Tm_TZorael: you might need to use right options, don't ask which16:27
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JediMasteranyone know why my sound keeps falling back to other devices and then all audio stops working?16:34
JediMasteramarok could be hapilly playing music for half an hour then kopte would make a sound when someone sends me a message then amarok stops playing audio and it complains that it's fallen back to a different device16:35
Tm_TJediMaster: which Kopete version, which Amarok version16:37
JediMasterTm_T, kopte 0.80.2, Amarok 2.2.2 and kde 4.3.416:41
Tm_TJediMaster: ok, hmmm, you have everything using same device in phonon settings?16:42
ZoraelJediMaster: I have that, but it goes away if I disable soundcard powersaving16:45
ZoraelHappens surefire everytime Kopete tries to play two sounds at once16:46
ZoraelSo, if yours is an Intel HDA card too, I'd try that.16:47
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izzybHow do you create users in kubuntu 9.1?16:57
llutzizzyb: adduser16:57
izzybis there a gui applet for user management?16:57
izzybI'll take that as a no17:00
marc___Hi, sorry to plung into the conversation, but in Kubuntu there is a GUI  for user mgt via system settings/system/user management17:04
daskreechizzyb: There is17:07
geniiSystem Settings...Advanced...User Management17:09
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vanviethi17:38
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daskreechhi17:45
pietiais kubuntu 9.10 better than ubuntu 9.10 for thinkpad laptop ? both system are based on these same packages/kernel but differs only in X-managers?17:46
Picipietia: If by x-managers, you mean desktop managers, then yes/17:46
pietiaPici, ah, yes :) deskop managers17:47
pietiaPici, so both are based on this same ?17:47
Picipietia: Yes.17:47
Pici!flavors17:47
ubottu!Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu17:47
pietia!Studio17:48
ubottuUbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org17:48
pietia!Mythbuntu17:48
ubottuMythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information17:48
pietiaPici, thx!17:48
or4n9ehi there. I try to install KDE SC 4.4 RC2 on top of karmic koala via kubuntu beta ppa and I get kind of a mix KDE4.3/KDE4.4 with two panel on top of each other, KDE 4.3 splash and so on17:49
or4n9eis there any workaround/solution for this?17:49
or4n9ei.e. is it recommended to install KDE4.4RC2 in textmode without ever starting KDE4.3 before?17:50
or4n9eto my surprise I find no such issues from other community members searching the forums, google and the like17:50
Duskaoyou might want to try deleting one of the plasma bars, I had a similar issue and that is what cleared it up for me.17:51
shadeslayeror4n9e: well best way to fix this is by renaming .kde to .kde_old and logout and relogin17:52
Duskaoit was only a single anomily for me though.17:52
shadeslayerDuskao: also how did you upgrade?17:52
pietiawhat network manager is used in kubuntu?17:52
pietiapatched knetworkmanager?17:53
DuskaoI used the backports17:53
shadeslayerDuskao: no i mean,command line or kpk?17:53
Duskaokpk17:53
or4n9eshadeslayer: I did that kind of .. actually I deleted ~/.kde and logged in again but that doesn't solve the KDE4.3 splash and notifications are shown at the top left corner instead of bottom right17:53
shadeslayermeh or4n9e see my replie to or4n9e above :P17:54
or4n9eshadeslayer: doesn't deleting ~/.kde and renaming should have the very same effect?17:54
shadeslayeryeah17:54
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or4n9eshadeslayer: hm, I see .. but then this isn't a real solution .. I mean KDE4.3 splash and messed up notifications isn't what I actually want when putting ~/.kde aside17:56
shadeslayeror4n9e: one sec17:56
or4n9eshadeslayer: sure, take your time, thx for helping :)17:56
Duskaosounds like two things are trying to occupy the same space.17:56
or4n9eone thing I thought about, isn't it possible to do a fresh install, CTRL+F1 without EVER actually login, /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then kubuntu ppa and dist-upgrade, then /etc/init.d/kdm start and have fun?18:00
Daughainwatches Daughain warily as they enter the Inn, ears flattening back slightly.18:00
Daughaineyes cmcxlinux as they enter the doorway then lays his head back down as he recognizes the step of slave.18:01
shadeslayeror4n9e: yeah so how did you upgrade? kpk or cli ?18:02
or4n9eshadeslayer: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in init 518:03
or4n9ebut I hope that a fresh install without ever login and dist-upgrade in init3 may help18:03
or4n9ebut even then, the KDE4.3 splash doesn't seem to have something to do with ~/.kde, i.e. no "user issue" but a "system issue"18:05
* or4n9e votes for a kubuntu 9.10 remaster provided to the community18:05
DaughainHow do I get my wireless connected again?18:06
or4n9eunfortunately lucid ubiquity is also broken in current daily .. otherwise I'd hav used that one18:06
* or4n9e just needs an awesome 100% working KDE4.4 RC2 for testing/work18:06
or4n9e:-D18:07
shadeslayeror4n9e: hmm... well that should have done it,but cant say whats the proble,18:08
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Quintasan\o18:10
or4n9eshadeslayer: OK, I'll try it again .. one last question: if I boot for the very first time into kdm without actually login .. this should have no negative impact on my ~/.kde right18:11
or4n9eor even better .. may I give grub an option to boot into init 3 (i.e. do NOT start kdm at all)?18:12
shadeslayeror4n9e: hmm no idea,btw you might want to restart X after the upgrade18:13
or4n9eshadeslayer: certainly, but on first boot I'd like NOT to start X at all, then subscribe to ppa, dist-upgrade and THEN start X for the VERY first time without any "knowledge" about KDE4.318:14
or4n9ethat way I hope to do a really clean KDE4.4 install18:14
or4n9eI mean KDE4.3 or its KDM would NEVER have been started at all18:15
or4n9eshadeslayer: do you know how to achieve this? I mean in order to put /etc/init.d/kdm aside I'd need to boot at least one time into GUI andd that's what I'd like to prevent18:17
shadeslayerone sec lemme go through what you said18:19
or4n9eor asked the other way around .. would an ubuntu minimal + kubunu-desktop result in the very same distro as kubuntu livecd install?18:19
or4n9eshadeslayer: certainly .. again, thx for helping, much appreciated18:19
pietiawhat network manager is used in kubuntu?18:20
shadeslayeror4n9e: well for the first method i would say,even though you dont start X,kdm is still upgraded18:20
shadeslayerpietia: knetworkmanager18:20
pietiashadeslayer, does it work ?:)18:20
shadeslayerpietia: yeah18:21
pietiashadeslayer, ok,thx18:21
pietiai will try18:21
shadeslayeror4n9e: for the second method i dont know,never installed minmal18:21
or4n9eshadeslayer: sure, I hav no worries upgrading kdm .. I'd like to NEVER start it before I have kubuntu ppa KDE4.4 installed18:21
or4n9eshadeslayer: IC18:21
shadeslayeror4n9e: also try : sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop18:21
or4n9e-f is force?18:22
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or4n9eshadeslayer: OK, will give all that a try .. thx so far .. are you interested in results?18:23
or4n9eI'd come back and tell ya if so18:23
or4n9e;)18:23
shadeslayeror4n9e: sure :)18:24
shadeslayeror4n9e: i may not reply for a few mins though :P18:24
mbanawhy don't my mouse back and forward buttons work on file browser18:24
or4n9eshadeslayer: OK, I'll come back and report then. no worries about reply delay18:25
or4n9ebrb18:25
KnightStalkerHello18:25
mbanaanyone around18:30
shadeslayermbana: barely18:31
[GuS]Hi guys... i am having several problems since latest update to kde4.4rc2 (which also updated PyQt package) i cannot use anything related to sip, which is PyQt and either pyuic4: RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdeui module requires API v6.018:35
mbanais anyone using compiz18:35
or4n9eshadeslayer: heh, I have an even better idea now18:36
or4n9eI'll do a fresh install, then boot the livecd again, chroot into the installed system and do the KDE4.4RC2 upgrade and then I'll boot it very the very first time ever18:37
or4n9eshadeslayer: what do you think about that one?18:37
shadeslayeror4n9e: hmm i think that should be fine,not sure though18:40
Duskaoor4n9e why are you so into 4.4? you could try Kubuntu 10.04 in a vbox, or 9.10 with the 4.4 update in a vbox as well, it's still not overly stable.18:40
or4n9eDuskao: I need for something to test (from work)18:41
daskreech[GuS]: can't stay around but do you have any other problems with PyQt?18:41
or4n9eDuskao: lucid currently is a no-go unfortunately as ubiquity is broken=no install and alternate dailies aren't available18:41
[GuS]daskreech: i didnt tested it fullly, but so far with that and qscintilla18:41
[GuS]so, example, eric stopped to work18:42
[GuS]i think is more related to pykde18:42
[GuS]which was compiled with other sip version18:42
Duskaoubiquity is working fine in alpha 2.18:42
DuskaoI installed it in a vbox yesterday.18:42
shadeslayeror4n9e: what happened to -f installe ?18:42
[GuS]daskreech: i've rebuild the pyqt package but still have problems, so i think is related to sip and pykde (which for some reason affects pyqt)18:43
or4n9eshadeslayer: for all that at least one X start is required and that's what I do not want to do18:43
or4n9eI already had a terribly broken KDE4.3/KDE4.4 mix today while following the "official" install instruction at kubuntu.org18:44
Duskaoor4n9e be sure to try 10.04 alpha2 cause ubiquity is working fine now.18:44
or4n9eDuskao: I tried post-daily lucid = installer crashed18:45
Duskaoif running 9.10 stick with 4.3 for now.18:45
Duskaoodd18:45
or4n9eDuskao: alpha2 announcement states that ubiquity isn't able to partition .. I mean WTF?18:45
or4n9elol18:45
or4n9eso, for now, although this would be awesome, lucid is out of game18:46
Duskaolol, well I suppose that would be a problem, as I said it worked fine in a vbox, it didn't really need to partition, just format the file ssytem and install I guess.18:46
or4n9eDuskao: I see. I unfortunately need to manual partition and the announcement states that exactly that is broken18:47
mbanawhy don't my mouse back and forward buttons work on file browser18:47
Duskaohmmmm.18:47
or4n9eand in post-alpha2 daily build ubiquity doesn't even start18:47
or4n9etried it with today's build18:47
or4n9ethus, it's karmic chroot time now18:48
Duskaoyeah, I'm just trying to think of other options.18:48
Duskaoprobably18:48
KovertI have installed phpbb under kubuntu made the symlink from apache.config to /etc/apache2 but no go can sone one help me18:48
KovertI have used the repository to install18:48
PiciLucid questions should be asked in #ubuntu+118:48
Duskaonot really any other ways around it18:48
or4n9eDuskao: the only remaining method that comes to my mind .. upgrading to 4.4 RC2 from a running KDE4.3 = forget it18:49
or4n9elost two hours with that already18:49
or4n9e;)18:49
Duskaodidn't work for you?18:49
Duskaogot a slow connection?18:50
or4n9eDuskao: no, I had a terribly broken KDE4.3/4.4RC2 setup with two panels and KDE4.3 splash screen while following the instructions at kubuntu.org18:50
or4n9ealso putting ~/.kde aside only resulted in notifications in the top left corner and still a KDE4.318:51
or4n9ethus I start over now18:51
sytheAnyone think the Kubuntu default network manager sucks?18:51
or4n9eif only grub would be able to boot into "textmode" on first bootup18:51
shadeslayeror4n9e: ok your on your own.... i *have* to get this rekonq package working :P18:52
or4n9eshadeslayer: never tried that .. we can talk about this later (if I succeed with my journey)18:52
or4n9eI think it's sufficient to call it a journey18:53
or4n9e;)18:53
Duskaosythe actually I find it works great.18:53
or4n9ebrb .. unetbootin finished with 9.10 liveinstall18:53
Duskaoor4n9e sorry I couldn't be of any help, best of luck.18:53
KovertI have used the repository to install18:54
KovertI have installed phpbb under kubuntu made the symlink from apache.config to /etc/apache2 but no go can sone one help me18:54
eidhey guys please i have a proplem with my wirless driver18:54
eidhow i can solve it18:55
Screamo_Smurfwhat problem exactly18:55
prefrontali just typed 'svn up' and I got 'Password for default GNOME keyring'. i do not want my subversion auth managed by GNOME *anything*18:56
eidthe driver is not seen by the system18:57
prefrontalthis is also new behavior18:57
eidand when i install itś package and then activate it , it is not activated18:57
Duskaoeid are you trying to install it through kpackagekit?18:58
eid<duskao> it is called b43-fwcutter_012-1_i386.dep18:59
eidi don know if it is kpackagekit18:59
Duskaowhere did you get it?19:00
Duskaoand you mean .deb right?19:02
eidyeah19:03
eidduskao i installed it right now by the kpackagekit and it still doesn work19:03
Duskaoso where did you get the file? and what is it for exactly?19:04
shadeslayerDuskao: i think its from the wiki19:05
eidi get a long time ago and it worked for ubuntu but it doesn work for kubuntu19:05
Duskaook, I was just making sure that it is a trusted .deb.19:05
eidduskao sure19:06
shadeslayereid: install via : sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb19:06
Duskaois it meant for a gnome install?19:06
shadeslayerkpk is not reliable :P19:06
Duskaoagreed19:06
Duskaoalso you might need to get some gnome libs or maybe even gksu, or even the gnome keyring19:07
Duskaoonce kpk is fully working properly ( can install packages) it should be decent.19:07
Duskaoalso if it is a driver, there is a chance you might need to restart.19:08
Duskaoshadeslayer other then kpk's issues with packages why don't you like it? what do you generally use? CDI?19:12
shadeslayerDuskao: yeah i usually use CLI,also it cant handle dist upgrades19:13
Duskaowell, dist upgrades are kind of an issue no matter how you look at it, but I had a feeling you are a CLI guy :D19:13
Screamo_Smurfi just apt-get install everything :)19:14
shadeslayerDuskao: hehe... im learning new stuff this week,im also learning to build packages,and python :P19:14
shadeslayerDuskao: also im running irssi instead of konversation/quassel so yeah im kinda biased to CLI :P19:15
Duskaosweet. Never done anything like that. I'm still fairly new to linux. Been about a year.19:15
shadeslayerDuskao: me too :P19:15
Duskaoyou rtorrent as well?? lol19:15
shadeslayerDuskao: nah..19:15
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DuskaoI like Gui's19:15
shadeslayerDuskao: havent mastered it yet and ktorrent just works19:15
Screamo_Smurfktorrent sucks :(19:16
shadeslayerScreamo_Smurf: the svn one doesnt :P19:16
Screamo_Smurf:/19:16
Screamo_Smurfsvn?19:16
Duskaoyeah, it does in the most case. The new ktorrent beta is really nice.19:17
Duskaobut the official for the time being seems to have a memory leak or something.19:17
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf you have never used a svn?19:18
Duskaoyou can also update ktorrent to the latest through a ppa on launchpad.19:19
shadeslayerhehe..19:19
shadeslayerDuskao: theres a PPA?19:19
* shadeslayer was thinking of uploading the beta for consumption on his PPA19:19
Duskaoyeah, well a ppa with ktorrent in it anyway.19:19
Screamo_Smurfwhat is svn?19:19
shadeslayer!svn | Screamo_Smurf19:19
ubottuScreamo_Smurf: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/19:19
shadeslayer!git | Screamo_Smurf19:20
ubottuScreamo_Smurf: Git is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)19:20
shadeslayerDuskao: ktorrent also has a git repository :)19:20
idrishey does anyone no how to uninstall ubuntu19:20
Duskaoit does?19:20
shadeslayeridris: uninstall ubuntu as in?19:20
jzurkhi.19:20
shadeslayerDuskao: yeah on git.debian.net19:20
Duskaohmmmm19:21
shadeslayerDuskao: that was new info for me too :)19:21
idrishow do u uninstall it19:21
idris??19:21
jzurkhow to link in ubuntu-br?19:21
Screamo_Smurfidris build a time travel machine and go back in time and tell yourself to never install it19:21
Duskaoidris why do you want to?19:21
idriscuz i want to install the newer version and this old one is crap19:21
Duskaoidris are you reverting back to windows? or what do you want to do?19:22
shadeslayeridris: uninstall ubuntu as in uninstall ubuntu and install kubuntu or nuke ubuntu19:22
Duskaoidris what version?19:22
Duskaoare you using?19:22
iconmefisto_idris: just install over the partitions you're now using19:22
shadeslayeridris: you can do a direct upgrade to 9.10 if youre running 9.019:22
shadeslayer*9.0419:22
idrisim using the one from like 2 years ago i want to install the 9.10 version19:22
Duskaoalso, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?19:23
shadeslayeridris: ah.. just write a CD and install over the current kubuntu partition19:23
shadeslayer!install | idris19:23
ubottuidris: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:23
shadeslayeridris: amazingly like windows,ubuntu does not have a "Uninstall" option :)19:23
idristhan u guys19:23
Screamo_Smurfshadeslayer even after lokking at that link im still gonna ask what is svn?19:23
* shadeslayer would actually be horrified at the idea19:24
shadeslayerScreamo_Smurf: simply put? its a way to download source code,keep it up to date and build a app19:24
Duskaoidris if you have a bunch of important information on your HD then back up your /home folder. Then install the newest version of Kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu and then replace your home folder or important stuff with your backup and you should be good to go.19:24
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf it's similar to a PPA, but you choose the version you want and you have to build it.19:25
idrishow do u install updates19:25
shadeslayerScreamo_Smurf: youll need dev files etc to use it19:25
shadeslayeridris: two ways : CLI or GUI19:25
DuskaoCLI19:25
Duskaois generally easier for svn19:26
shadeslayeridris: from cli : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:26
shadeslayeridris: from gui : press alt+F2 > type kapackagekit > upgrades section > mark all upgrades > apply19:26
Duskaoshadeslayer here is the ppa with ktorrent in it. https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra19:27
* shadeslayer just needs the .diff.gz file :)19:27
Duskaoshadeslayer he isn't going to be able to upgrade his/her dist if he is using an older version of ubuntu then 9.04.19:28
Duskaogonna pucker up his system.19:28
shadeslayeryeah19:28
shadeslayerDuskao: he can do : do-release-upgrade twice :P19:28
Duskaoyou can do that?19:29
Screamo_Smurfhey whats the lightest music player for kubuntu?19:29
Duskaoidris I would recommend downloading and reinstalling whatever ubuntu you want to use caues that is likely to cause havok on your system, plus with all the updates and stuff your will be downloading for the better part of a day19:30
archonkogQuestion why when i install ubuntu wireless picks up but on kubuntu i can scan and everything but nothing happens ?19:30
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf there are loads of light music players. None of them are overly heavy.19:30
Screamo_Smurfeh19:31
Screamo_Smurfsugestions?19:31
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf what kind of music player are you looking for? Nice gui? Fully capable?19:31
Screamo_Smurfyea19:31
DuskaoAmarok is the main one for kubuntu, banshee is good, rhythmbox is good, exaile is good. Songbird is the one I use, but it's heavier I guess.19:32
Screamo_Smurfwellll im running on a 800mhz system19:32
MarcoPauhello I have problems playing videos like this one http://tv.repubblica.it/copertina/il-garage-piu-piccolo-del-mondo/41767?video it flickers continuously19:33
Duskaothat should be more then enough for any of them, but I would probably say exaile.19:33
Screamo_Smurfamarok is slow, exaile is slow, dont like rythombox, using songbird now19:33
slow-motionhi19:33
Duskaowell, then lightest I can think of is GMP19:33
Duskaobut then you'll have to get all the gnome dependencies, and it's very basic.19:34
Screamo_Smurflol i saw an i in there for a second19:34
iconmefisto_Screamo_Smurf: audacious is really light and fast19:35
Duskaoactually it's GMPC19:35
Duskaooh yeah, forgot about audacious19:35
Screamo_Smurfaudacoius wont play anything19:35
Duskaothere ya go, better option then GMPC19:35
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf audacious won't play? is your system a pure kubuntu? or did you install kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu?19:37
Screamo_Smurfpure kubuntu19:37
Duskaohmmm.19:37
iconmefisto_lots of prefs in audacious to play with19:38
Screamo_Smurfexaile wouldnt play untill i installed ubuntu-restriced-extras19:38
DuskaoI haven't used audacious for a while, but make sure you have it set for alsa19:38
AhoxHi, I would like to sync my data to another local partition. What are my best options?19:38
AhoxShould be simple to use and preferably cronable19:38
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf thats likely cause you were trying to play mp3's and you need the restricted extras and codecs to play them with ubuntu.19:39
Screamo_Smurf:/19:42
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DuskaoScreamo_Smurf do you care if the media player is Qt, Gtk, Python?19:43
Ahoxcsync2 looks nice, but absolutly overkill19:44
Screamo_Smurfi only care that it works and is liite19:44
sytheI have an issue where the resolution doesn't stay19:44
sytheIf I logoff, the resolution is reset to the default19:44
sytheAnd I have to run KRandR19:44
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf are you dedicated to KDE? cause KDE isn't exactly the lightest DE out there, seems a bit heavy for a 800mhz processor. That could be part of the issue with stuff opening slowly.19:45
sytheSame thing with splash and login screen19:45
sytheCan anyone help?19:45
Tm_TDuskao: that cpu is just enough for KDE (:19:45
Duskaosythe what are you doing when it changes resolution?19:46
sytheI run Krandr19:46
Screamo_SmurfDuskao it runs faster then gnome19:46
sytheTo change it to the correct one19:46
DuskaoTm_T yeah I know it is, but like you said JUST enough.19:46
Tm_TDuskao: no, I mean, it's well enough, not a problem19:46
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf I'm not surprised at that, I'm thinking more along the lines of XFCE or LXDE.19:46
sytheIn system settings, it's set correctly19:46
Screamo_Smurfonly time i have problems is when im playing music19:47
sytheBecause it auto-corrects when I open-System Settings-Display19:47
iconmefisto_!resolution19:47
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution19:47
dasenhas anyone tried deluge here?19:48
sytheIt doesn't help restarting the X19:48
dasenits a bittorrent client19:48
sytheI've tried it19:48
sytheI've also tried xorg.conf19:48
sytheBut I messed it up and had to fix it from the terminal19:48
dasendid you manage to work with the web frontend?19:48
dasenoops, never mind19:48
iconmefisto_sythe: do you have a xorg.conf file?19:49
sytheYes19:49
iconmefisto_sythe: what version kubuntu?19:49
sythe9.1019:49
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf well it could be lots of things then. Ever since iTunes became huge and ultra heavy weight for a media player, most others have followed along, just not as heavy. So as far as the best functioning MP's you have already tried them.19:49
iconmefisto_so you created the xorg.conf yourself?19:49
Screamo_Smurfyea i hated how much resources itunes took on windows, but at the same time i was addicted to it19:50
sytheNo, I didn't19:50
sytheBoth KDM and GDM have startup scripts that are executed when X is initiated. For GDM, these are in /etc/gdm/ , while for KDM this is done at /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. In either case, you can paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts. For GDM, try putting them right before initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm in /etc/gdm/Init/Default19:50
sytheThis process requires root access and mucking around in system config files, but will take effect earlier in the startup process than using .xprofile, and will apply to all users including the login screen.19:50
FloodBotK2sythe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:50
DuskaoThere is another MP based on java I believe, might be Python, can't remember called Christine. You could give that one a try...19:51
sytheHow do you "set xrandr command in kdm startup scripts?19:51
sytheyou can paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts19:51
iconmefisto_sythe: there shouldn't be a xorg.conf file by default any more19:51
sytheReally?19:52
sytheThere is19:52
sytheHow do I...19:52
sytheyou can paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts?19:52
Screamo_Smurfsythe there isnt on mine19:52
sytheI upgrade from 9.0419:52
sytheHow do I you "paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts"?19:52
iconmefisto_sythe: if you have a xorg.conf, you can edit it to get the resolution you want19:53
sytheNo, I don't know how19:53
sytheIt's essentially empty19:53
Duskaosythe unless you have installed proprietary video drivers for your system there shouldn't be a xorg.conf.19:53
sytheI have installed Nvidia drivers19:53
sytheSo, yeah19:54
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf check out http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/christine/19:54
iconmefisto_doesn't nvidia driver have a settings program?19:54
sytheWhat do I paste into the KDM startup script?19:54
sytheYes, the nvidia driver has a settings program19:54
DuskaoI tried it a bit ago and found it a bit unstable, but it might be better now, I can get you a ppa as well if you want.19:54
sytheIt fights with  KRAndR19:55
sytheThe Nvidia settings fights with KRandR19:55
Duskaosythe your nvidia setting might be taking over a bit, ensure you have both set to the same resolution.19:55
sytheYep, same setting19:56
sytheAfter KRandR runs at least19:56
sytheIt says the resolution is 53hz19:56
sytheWhich it definitely isn't19:56
sytheIt's like 80hz about19:57
sytheCause I've used a 60hz monitor19:57
Duskaowell that would be your refresh rate, and it's likely right.19:57
iconmefisto_sythe: what resolution do you want?19:57
sythe1280 by 96019:57
sytheOk, I just changed the refresh rate in the Nvidia settings to 85hz19:58
sytheIt was at "Auto"19:58
iconmefisto_xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x960    <- that command should do what krandrtray does19:58
sytheWhere do I put it?19:58
sytheWhere in my xorg?19:59
iconmefisto_sythe: type it in konsole19:59
DuskaoCLI19:59
sytheDone19:59
sytheShould I logoff and login?19:59
sytheTo test it?19:59
sytheOr reboot?20:00
iconmefisto_sythe: if it works as expected, then you can put it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup20:00
sytheIn my System Settings-Display it's 101hz and in Nvidia it's 85hz20:00
iconmefisto_sythe: so when you do the xrandr command, the resolution is OK?20:01
sytheYes, it doesn't change20:01
sytheFrom the KRandR correct res20:01
Duskaosythe if you can without removing your drivers you might want to get rid of your nvidia control centre20:01
sytheBut...Then how do I change my refresh rate above 53hz?!20:02
sytheCause that's the max in the system settings20:02
sytheAnd my monitor isn't 12 years old20:02
sytheMax 5 years old20:02
Duskaois it an lcd?20:02
sytheNo, really expensive CRT20:02
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sytheI mean really expensive20:02
Duskaook20:02
Duskaolol20:03
sythelol20:03
iconmefisto_sythe: xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x960 --rate 8520:03
Duskaoyep, what he said20:03
sytheSo, I just type it in konsole20:03
xrandrI cannot help you adjust your screen resolution :D20:03
* xrandr is on strike :)20:03
sytheLooks good20:03
sytheSo, how do I put it in start-up scripts?20:04
iconmefisto_sythe: just add that line to /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup20:04
soeehi20:04
iconmefisto_sythe: kdesudo kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup20:05
sytheI have no kde4 file20:05
sythefolder20:05
sytheIt seems20:05
sytheIt might be hidden20:05
sytheFound it20:05
sythedo I have to sudo?20:06
sytheTo edit20:06
sytheit20:06
iconmefisto_sythe: kdesudo kate /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup20:06
iconmefisto_or sudo nano20:06
Screamo_SmurfDuskao i cant download it :/20:06
sytheWhere do I add the line?20:07
Tamagotono_I am running 9.10 and need to find out how to reload modules after suspend.  can someone point me to a good place to learn this.20:07
DuskaoScreamo_Smurf add the ppa from here https://launchpad.net/~markuz/+archive/ppa20:07
iconmefisto_sythe: at the end, on a line on it's own20:07
Duskaothen just sudo apt-get install christine20:07
sytheAt the VERY end?20:07
sytheAfter everything?20:08
iconmefisto_sythe: yes20:08
sytheafter ksplashx?20:08
sythe?20:08
sytheOk20:08
Duskaoas I said I haven't had much luck with it personally, but there are a bunch of people that really like it.20:09
marcosRzguys20:09
sytheI'll try it20:09
sytheSaved20:09
marcosRzAny way I can help with Kpackacgekit?20:09
sytheAnd reboot...20:09
marcosRzIt's current state is horrible20:09
sytheI'll tell you all if it works20:09
sytheDoesn't work20:11
sytheAt all20:11
sytheNothing happens20:11
sytheI'll try later20:11
Screamo_SmurfDuskao where do i go to add ppa's?20:12
Duskaoyour running 9.10 right?20:12
Screamo_Smurfyea20:13
Screamo_Smurfnvm foun it20:13
Screamo_Smurfi think20:13
Duskaook, just open up software sources. kpackagekit - settings - edit software sources. Then add  "ppa:markuz/ppa" in there without quotes20:14
archonkogwhat is the wireless manager for kubuntu20:14
lyhana8_hi, kwin and plasma-desktop crash since I install kde4.4-rc2 any idea ?20:15
lyhana8_archonkog: network-manager20:15
Duskaoit's still a rc.20:15
Duskaolyhana8_ it's still a rc, just report the bugs and crashes and hope it gets fixed for when it goes live.20:16
archonkoglyhana8_, so how come on ubuntu wireless pickup and connect to wifi but not on kubuntu ?20:16
iconmefisto_Duskao: add-apt-repository ppa:markuz/ppa20:16
dasenhas anyone tried deluge here?20:16
dasenits a bittorrent client20:16
Duskaodasen yeah, I have20:17
Duskaoiconmefisto_ ok.20:17
dasenDuskao: did you ever try to use the web ui successfuly?20:17
Duskaono, sorry I didn't like it very much so I gave up on it.20:18
lyhana8_archonkog: I got some issue on kubuntu, the service doesn't start well, you can try: `sudo service network-manager restart`20:18
dasenok, what's the client u use?20:18
tiraeleЗдрасти20:18
tiraeleКодировка читабельна ?20:18
lyhana8_Duskao: well I tried to go back on kde4.3.4 but the issue is still there :S20:18
archonkogthanks20:19
tiraeleHello, anybodi speaking Russian ?20:19
Screamo_SmurfDuskao it chrashes20:19
Duskaolyhana8_ what video drivers are you using? what are you trying to do when it crashes?20:19
lyhana8_Duskao: it crashes at session start20:19
iconmefisto_!ru20:20
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:20
Duskaoevery time?20:20
lyhana8_Duskao: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20100126.e5933fd7-0ubuntu0sarvatt2~karmic20:21
marcosRzserious20:21
marcosRzI mean why KPACKAGEKIT IS so horrible?20:21
marcosRzIt doesn't have 10% of Synaptic20:21
lyhana8_Duskao: yep every time, even when I launch them from the console20:21
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lyhana8_marcosRz: use synaptic or the terminal then. I do agree with you, it lack some features :P20:22
adnyxoi need some serious help20:22
marcosRzsome features?20:22
marcosRzit lack all features20:22
marcosRzdebconf20:22
marcosRzsearch20:22
marcosRzviews20:22
FloodBotK2marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:22
marcosRzetc20:22
Duskaoit could very easily be a driver issue. what video card do yo uhave?20:22
DuskaomarcosRz then don't use it and download ubuntu software centre or use synaptic.20:23
adnyxoi mounted a .img to my home dir and it wiped all my files20:23
marcosRzIt sucks20:23
marcosRz:(20:23
marcosRzIt makes Kubuntu a side project20:23
Pici!enter | marcosRz20:23
ubottumarcosRz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:23
Duskaosee I actually quite like kpk, but it does need some work.20:23
marcosRzSeriously I hoped that Canonical actually care about Kubuntu the same way Ubuntu, but it doesnt20:23
lyhana8_Duskao: an ati, I pasted the package name :  xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20100126.e5933fd7-0ubuntu0sarvatt2~karmic20:23
geniiadnyxo: When you un-mount the image your files should still be there20:23
lyhana8_Duskao: it's an ati mobility X70020:24
adnyxohow do i do that20:24
Duskaothere we go, thats what I was looking for.20:24
geniiadnyxo: What dir did you tell it to mount to? Just /home  or more like /home/yourusername ?20:24
adnyxohome20:25
lyhana8_Duskao: how could I downgrade to the previous version of a driver ?20:25
adnyxo /home20:25
Duskaolyhana8_ do you have the most recent drivers?20:25
Duskaowhy would you want to?20:25
Duskaothat likely won't help20:25
Duskaodo you have the x-swat ppa?20:26
iconmefisto_adnyxo: sudo umount /home20:26
Duskaoit gives you the most recent stable open source drivers.20:26
adnyxoohmygod thank you so much20:26
adnyxoim so stupid20:27
geniiadnyxo: Then: sudo umount /home    ... unless you had previously also had a separate partition for it20:27
Screamo_Smurflol...20:27
lyhana8_Duskao: I upgraded them 2 or 3 days agp20:27
lyhana8_Duskao: I got the xorg-edgers ppa20:28
* dasen is away: Ausente por agora20:28
lyhana8_Duskao: the x-swat has older package than kubuntu 9.1020:28
DuskaoI'm not sure if the purge ppa is working, so I don't know if there is another way to rollback your open source video driver. Unless you remove the ppa, remove the radeon driver and then reinstall it from the ubuntu repos.20:28
Duskaooh, so it does, my bad. Should have looked at that more closely, I don't use them.20:29
sakuiwhere is the xorg.conf file? I have Kubuntu 9.1020:29
lyhana8_Duskao: you believe it's a driver issue, not a kwin or plasma package one ?20:29
Duskaowell it could be any of them20:30
iconmefisto_sakui: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but you won't have one by default)20:30
sakuiDo I have to create it?20:30
Duskaohowever it it quite likely that it's a kwin or plasma one as well becaues of the 4.4 rc2. however if it was happening with 4.3 as well then, it could be more.20:30
* dasen is back.20:31
Duskaoit's hard to say. Just have to trouble shoot. You could wait another couple weeks and put up with it till the next kde update it out and see if that helps.20:31
Screamo_Smurfis there a good nintendo 64 emulator for kubuntu?20:31
lyhana8_Duskao: I didn't thought about the X driver, I'll try to downgrade to previous version20:31
iconmefisto_sakui: what's the problem?20:32
DuskaoI'm using the newest catalyst fglrx driver and I'm getting a crash every once in a while on 4.4 rc2 as well. So it's more likely to be a plasma or kwin issue, but it's hard to rule out the ati nonsense.20:33
sakuiiconmefisto_: How do I create my own?20:33
Screamo_SmurfN64 emulaotr for kubuntu? anybody know of a good one?20:34
lyhana8_Duskao: if it's a kwin/plasma issue it should have been drop when I rolled back to kde 4.3.4, or I did it wrong :S20:34
iconmefisto_sakui: kill X and log in in terminal, then run: Xorg -configure20:34
iconmefisto_sakui: then move the xorg.conf that is created to /etc/X1120:34
sakuiiconmefisto_: you mean ctrl+alt+bsp?20:35
iconmefisto_sakui: that will REstart X. sudo service kdm stop  I think will work20:36
sakuik20:36
geniisakui: Drop to kdm, login to session type of console. sudo stop kdm    then Xorg -configure      or X -configure       then sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etcX11     then sudo start kdm20:36
Duskaonot sure what to tell you about that.20:37
geniiBleh some typos. but you get the idea20:37
sakuiwhere is the global startup file?20:38
Duskaobetween upgrading and rollbacks and ati drivers and all that fun, it's really tough to troubleshoot to a single point.20:38
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slow-motionn820:40
geniisakui: "global startup file" ?20:41
sakuimy linux skills are very rough.20:42
sakuisorry20:42
sakuiin /etc/something/local20:42
iconmefisto_sakui: it would help if we had a clue about what you're trying to accomplish20:42
sakuiI want to insert some commands at bootup.20:43
sakuisynclient TouchpadOff=120:43
iconmefisto_sakui: /etc/init.d/rc.local ? is that what you're looking for?20:45
sakuiyes thanks20:45
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Tamagotono_How do I write a script that will only be run on resume from standby.  I need to reload a module after resume for proper operation.20:52
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iconmefisto_Tamagotono_: just guessing, but you might try putting the script in /etc/acpi/start.d/ (and make sure it is owned by root, and executable)20:59
Tamagotono_iconmefisto_: Thanks, I'll give that a try.20:59
|sysop|I installed a package from source how to I keep apt from installing the deb version when I try to install related programs?21:00
geniiPin with -1 priority21:01
|sysop|ok cool thanks.21:01
dasenso guys, what is for you , the reason for switching to kubuntu?21:03
|sysop|I am used to editing the /etc/apt/preferences file. do I just create a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d ? and put it in there21:03
|sysop|or can I just create a /etc/apt/preferences21:04
genii|sysop|: /etc/apt/preferences is right, create if not there21:04
|sysop|ok cool thanks.21:04
sakuihmm...  when I reboot my system kubuntu 9.10 will not stay on 1440x900, is this a bug or what?21:18
sakuioops21:18
* dasen is away: Ausente por agora21:19
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genii!away > dasen21:20
ubottudasen, please see my private message21:20
Tamagotono_iconmefisto_: No love in /etc/acpi/start.d/  Looks like scripts in there are not run during resume from standby.  If you can think of anything else, I'd love to hear it.  Otherwise, I'll keep searching google.  Thanks.21:22
shadeslayer!res | sakui21:22
ubottusakui: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution21:22
iconmefisto_Tamagotono_: I was expecting to find /etc/acpi/resume.d/ but it doesn't exist on my install, which is why I guessed start.d/ instead21:24
Tamagotono_iconmefisto_: Me too.  That is is the way it used to be but not any longer.  Trying to figure out how it is now being done.21:25
iconmefisto_Tamagotono_: /etc/apm/resume.d/  ?21:25
Tamagotono_iconmefisto_: How did I miss that!  Trying it now... Thanks!21:27
DaughainOk, back to trying to get flash streaming media qworking....21:30
DaughainOr any streaming media for that matter....21:31
DaughainConsidering I am also trying to get ubuntu working. =)21:35
iconmefisto_is the flash plugin not working? or is it the stream not downloading? what's wrong?21:37
* dasen is back.21:40
DaughainGimme a sec, rebuilt a bnch of it, need to see if that one site is still not working.21:40
Daughainiconmefisto_: Ok, when I try to view this site: http://www.falcon-nw.com/    Something is not showing.21:43
DaughainThe main page shows fine, but when I go to look at their laptops, all I get is a bunch of boxes with a spinning circle in them.21:44
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* Daughain sighs.....21:52
iconmefisto_Daughain: just the laptops page? tried the other pages (desktops, about) ?21:52
iconmefisto_Daughain: which browser you using?21:52
Daughainfirefox, and  esktops does the same thing, 'gallery' doesnt show any pics, but doesnt have the spinning circle, either.21:53
iconmefisto_do you have a slow connection?21:54
DaughainNo.21:54
iconmefisto_hmm21:54
iconmefisto_you have the flash plugin from adobe?21:55
DaughainNo, used ubutnu-restrcted-ectras21:55
DaughainExtras, even.21:55
iconmefisto_that installs the adobe flash plugin21:55
iconmefisto_64bit?21:56
DaughainOK, I wasnt sure if it used the adobe or not.21:56
DaughainAs far as I know, yes.21:56
geniiDaughain: Might want specifically kubuntu-restricted-extras instead of ubuntu-restricted-extras or xubuntu-restricted-extras, etc etc. So you get for instance the Konq flash plugin, etc21:56
DaughainI only have konq on this system because removing it screws up the rest of the kde desktop. I refuse to use the thing.21:57
genii(each flavour has it's own -restricted-extras package)21:57
* Daughain nods.21:58
Daughainfirefox is the default browser for ubuntu, which is why I use that restricted-extras package.21:58
DaughainThat way I get the right plugins for the browser I use.21:59
iconmefisto_Daughain: if you have a 64bit install, there is a beta native 64bit flash plugin you can download from adobe website22:05
iconmefisto_Daughain: uname -a  to make sure you're using 64bit22:05
Daughainubuntu is 64 bit, just wasnt sure about the plugins.22:06
iconmefisto_the 32bit plugin should work, but I hear the 64bit beta one is quite good and apparently stable22:07
DaughainIt seems to work fine for everything else.....Just this one site is giving me problems, which is why I started asking.22:08
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DaughainNeat, abode site is being problematic too.....22:13
DaughainFound it.22:19
daveragHey guys I'm often running into a problem where some process will use 100% cpu and nothing is responsive, sometimes if I'm lucky I can kill it but most of the time my computer needs rebooting. I know there was Runaway Process Catcher Applet in Kde3 but what about Kde4?   I really shouldn't have to reboot daily in this day and age :)22:20
DaughainWhich process?22:20
daveragMostly Chrome but sometimes its VirtualBox22:21
daveragsometimes its ntfs-mount22:21
iconmefisto_Daughain: did you hear the music on that site? maybe sound is slowing down the loading22:21
Daughainiconmefisto_: Nope, never heard music either.22:22
Daughaindaverag: Ok, I cant help ya then....22:22
iconmefisto_Daughain: well that may solve your problem. there's a settings button at the top left. click it to expand, then stop the player. navigating the site will probably be smoother when the music is off22:23
iconmefisto_Daughain: top right, not top left22:24
Daughainiconmefisto_: I shouldnt need to, I should be getting at *least* 4M down right now.....Closer to 8M down.22:24
daveragI can't be the only one who runs into these problems, there should be a way to automatically kill processes which demand too much22:24
teilnehmerdaverag: any idea as to the cause? Is your system very slow? No swap?22:25
teilnehmerwrond graphic drivers?22:25
daveragThe system isn't usually slow, but sometimes an app like chrome will monopolize the cpu and everything else goes extremely slow22:26
teilnehmersorry, I wasn't clear: Is your hardware very old, which might cause the system to be slow?22:26
Daughainiconmefisto_: ;ve never had this issue before on any other sites.....Far as I know, at least.22:26
Daughaindaverag: I had an issue with firefox like that, and installing noscript solved it for me.22:27
daveragNo its a Quad-core 2.6 with 4 gb of ram22:28
daveragBut i want scripts ... :S22:28
DaughainSomething about the popups on some sites causing problems.22:28
iconmefisto_Daughain: not too many sites are exclusively built with flash these days22:28
Duskaodoes anyone here know how I can configure opera so I can use playdeb.net properly on kubuntu 9.10.22:29
daveragI just thought there would be some kind of crash protection22:29
Daughainiconmefisto_: I dont know that it is flsh causing the issue, honestly. I have no clue what it is.22:29
daveragor cpu overloading protection rather22:29
Daughainiconmefisto_: I cant control anything on that page. The sound never actaly loads, which is why I;m not hearing it, and the slideshow on the main page stalls after about 80sec.22:35
Mudassarhello all22:36
Mudassarhello kubuntu people22:36
Mudassarsomebody there ?22:36
Duskaodoes anyone here know how I can configure opera so I can use playdeb.net properly on kubuntu 9.10.22:36
iconmefisto_Daughain: maybe try disabling firefox extensions to see if one of them is causing the problem? eg noscript22:39
Mudassarhello all genius people22:39
Mudassarsomebody will help me installing kubuntu from windows XP ?22:39
Daughainiconmefisto_: DUH....22:40
DaughainMudassar: put the cd in the tray, and follow the directins??=)22:40
MudassarDaughain: My DVD Drive is not working, I need to install it from windows XP, I tried to use Wubi, but it doesn't show me the ext3 partition where I want to install kubuntu 9.1022:41
Daughainwubi installs ubuntu *in* windows.22:42
apersonMudassar, wubi is only capable of installing ubuntu into a image file inside windows22:42
DaughainMudassar: Ok, you will need to lanboot via another system., or usb boot via thumbdrive.22:43
Mudassarhow can I install kubuntu from windows xp ? into a separate partition ?22:43
sourcemakerPlease help.... urgent... how can I downgrade KDE 4.4???22:43
Mudassarmy system doesn't support USB boot ... but I can boot from lan using PXE but how to get kubuntu 9.10 image so that I can install it using PXE22:44
DaughainMudassar: As far as *I* know, you cant.22:44
DaughainInstall into a dofferent partition from windows, that is.22:44
MudassarI have only option to install kubuntu 9.10 from windows xp on a separate partition ... what to do ?22:44
=== michael_ is now known as Elumako
MudassarDVD Drive is not working22:45
DaughainLanboot from another linux box. Thats the solution I ended uo needing to use.22:45
MudassarI have another system with xp running on it ... xp is also on my laptop where I want Kubuntu22:45
apersonMudassar, dvd drive not working as in it doesn't work in windows, or it just doesn't work period?22:45
iconmefisto_Mudassar: usb boot?22:45
MudassarUSB boot is not supported by Toshiba Satellite ... :(22:45
ElumakoHowdy, folks. :)22:45
MudassarIt is strange that there is a support for boot from FDD but there is not FDD in my laptop :)22:46
DaughainMudassar: Here's a link to get you started....;  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet22:46
luciMudassar: go to cdimages.ubntu.com/netboot and find there a pxe image.22:47
iconmefisto_Mudassar: this too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows22:48
Daughainiconmefisto_: Discabling noscript didnt help. =(22:49
MudassarI want to make sure one thing, actually I want to install kubuntu 9.10 which is using KDE environment ... is this Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) the same as Kubuntu 9.10 ?22:50
iconmefisto_Daughain: firefox -safe-mode   will start firefox will all extensions disabled. try that, just to eliminate themes/extensions as the fault22:50
DaughainMudassar: No, but that can be added after an ubuntu install has been done. Or, if using the seed install via lan, it will ask you which desktop environ you want to install.22:50
MudassarDaughain: what is seed install via lan ?22:51
MudassarDaughain: I got confused by "seed"22:51
ElumakoI don't even know what the difference is yet... I've been using Linux for all of, oh, 10 minutes now. ;)22:51
DaughainElumako: lol22:52
DaughainElumako: I feel the sae way alot. =)22:52
ElumakoMy first (and certainly not last) n00b question: How in the heck do I get Adobe Flash installed...? :(22:53
ElumakoI'm getting an error message about the wrong system architecture.22:53
Kolia!flash |Elumako22:53
ubottuElumako: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:53
ElumakoYou rock, thanks.22:54
KoliaElumako: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree22:54
DaughainMudassar: Its a ubntu installer called pxelinux.0, installs the kernel, then asks you which desktop environ you want to use. You can choose kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, NR....22:55
Elumako"free" in this case isn't referring to cost, but whether it's closed- / open-source, right?22:55
DaughainHey, DaskreeCH22:55
ElumakoWorks great. Thanks. :)22:56
KoliaElumako: yep, right22:57
DaughainMudassar: Its classed as an alternate install method. Works fine, though.22:57
ElumakoKolia: Thank you kindly for the little bit of clarity, heh.23:00
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konraddohi, how to automatically mount NTFS partitions in Kubuntu 9.10? :)23:05
iconmefisto_konraddo: install ntfs-config23:06
konraddook, thanks23:06
Elumakogoto23:07
ElumakoNow to get my X-Fi sound card working. Wheeeeee. *deep breathes*23:14
Duskaohas anyone here upgraded to kde 4.4rc2?23:16
apersonElumako, mine works fine23:16
Duskaoand is anyone else having issues with apturl with it?23:16
Duskaogive playdeb or getdeb a try to see if it is working.23:17
Elumakosudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` -- While trying to install X-Fi drivers; tosses me a few error messages.23:20
Elumako"Package linux-headers is not installed, so not removed" & "E: Couldn't find package uname -r"23:21
ElumakoI shall learn... eventually. :)23:21
iconmefisto_Duskao: do you see this error with apturl? the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdeui module requires API v6.023:21
apersonElumako, mine 'just worked'23:21
MudassarHello Daughain, it didn't help me to install Kubuntu 9.10 on a separate partition from windows XP23:21
Duskaoyeah, I got that error23:22
Duskaohttp://pastebin.com/m9ce3aa823:22
Mudassarhello Daughain, it didn't help me to install kubuntu 9.10 on a separate partition from windows XP23:22
=== zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away
Duskaobrb23:23
iconmefisto_Duskao: see if printer config works in systemsettings. I get the same error when I   kcmshell4 system-config-printer-kde  from terminal23:23
Duskaohmmm, ok23:23
* dasen is away: Ausente por agora23:24
Mudassarhello people, please help me installing kubuntu 9.10 on a separate partition from windows xp23:24
iconmefisto_Mudassar: what went wrong with the net install method?23:24
Duskaoseems to be working, but I don't have a printer setup23:24
KoliaElumako: type uname -a in console23:25
MudassarI couldn't find the image23:25
Koliato get your kernel version23:25
Mudassarthe links provided for me were no longer existing23:25
Koliaand then you do: sudo apt-get install linux-header-<version>23:25
Duskaoas I said, brb23:26
iconmefisto_Mudassar: there is a windows version of this. might be easier: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/23:26
Koliause the autcompletion to see the available packages (that is: start to type 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers' and hit "Tab" key to see the available packages starting with these words)23:26
KoliaElumako: ^23:27
olsoHello world23:27
DaughainUnetbootin requires usb boot options.23:28
iconmefisto_Daughain: it can install to hard disk too, can't it?23:29
DaughainUnet will install, but only if the mobo wil allow a usb boot.23:30
DaughainOLder mobo's especially laptops dont have that option. =(23:30
Mudassarthere are two options in that for kubuntu using UNetbootin, 9.10_Live and 9.10_NetInstall, I need to install kubuntu 9.10 from windows ... which one should I choose ?23:30
Duskaoiconmefisto_ yeah I get the same error when trying to access printer settings that way.23:30
iconmefisto_Duskao: but does the printer config window appear normally? I just get error messages in the window23:31
Duskaonot sure, never been to it before lol23:32
Mudassarbut again, it is not showing me ext3 partition where I have to install kubuntu 9.10 .... it is showing me C: drive of xp ... only23:32
DuskaoI haven't set up a printer in ages.23:32
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iconmefisto_Duskao: this is what I get: http://imagebin.ca/view/Vee-yR.html23:33
DaughainMudassar: UNless you have a partition alr5eady formatted in ext3, nothing is going to show it to you. Ubuntu currently formats to ext4.23:33
DaughainMudassar: Do you have another linux box?23:33
MudassarI have a partition formatted in ext3 already there ...23:34
DuskaoYeah, got the same thing.23:34
Mudassarone partition is ext3 that should show in UNetBootin23:34
apersonMudassar, windows cannot read ext, you won't be able to see it23:34
DaughainMudassar: dl whichever .iso you feel like using, use Alcohol 120, or aonther virual drive app and moubt the image in it, see f that will give you a dual boot option.23:35
Mudassarhow can I use UNetbootIn to install Kubuntu 9.10 on an ext3 partition23:35
Mudassar?23:35
apersonMudassar, the only way is to boot from some media23:35
DaughainMudassar: You cant, unlesas you have a USB boot option on your bios, which you have already said you dont have.23:36
* dasen is back.23:36
DaughainMudassar: You can try mouting the image on a virtual drive, and run the install that way/23:36
MudassarI can boot from PXE using LAN .... I just fixed the grub problem using this way ... now I need to install kubuntu 9.10 somehow, because I don't have any external media or drive23:37
Mudassaronly LAN23:37
apersonthen pxe is what you want to do23:37
DaughainMudassar: I gavwe you  link to get you start6ed on that.23:37
Mudassarbut where is the image for PXE installation for Kubuntu 9.1023:37
MudassarDaughain, that link has dead links23:37
DaughainAnd, Iknow the link works, because I had to pull it up myself.23:37
DaughainWhich links?23:38
DaughainI just used them about two weeks ago.23:38
Mudassarthat were given for the BootNet Images ...23:38
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Mudassarcan you give me the link for the netboot image for kubuntu 9.10 that I can use with PXE ?23:39
DaughainJustclicked on the karmioc link and up oppped the 'save file' box.23:39
DaughainUsing the link on the page I gave you.23:40
MudassarCan you paste that again ?23:40
Daughainhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet23:40
DaughainStep #4, Te karmic link works fine.23:41
sithlord48is anyone aware that the KFN is down again w/ "Service Unavailable"?23:41
Daughainbrb, need a drink./23:41
sithlord48claydoh, KFN is down again just want to be sure whom ever is responcible for fixing it knows about it23:43
iconmefisto_what's KFN?23:46
sithlord48kubuntuforums.net :)23:46
DaughainMudassar: Find it?23:46
arnibalHi ! I'm new in Linux ! Can somebody help me ?23:48
sithlord48arnibal, with what ?23:48
MudassarDaughain, which version of kubuntu is this ? this post doesn't show anything about the version23:48
DaughainMudassar: Its not kubuntu23:48
Mudassari need kubuntu 9.1023:48
arnibalthanks ! at the moment i have not audio in firefox  ! with flash ! I read some webs and do sudo ... some ones and other plugins installing !23:49
DaughainMudassar: No you dont. You need to install a kernel. Once there, you can instLL YOUR CHOICE of desktop environment.23:49
Mudassarok then which version of Ubuntu is this ?23:49
arnibal9.1023:49
Mudassari need the latest version 9.1023:49
Mudassarok23:50
sithlord48arnibal, you have sound in everthing other then firefox using flash?23:50
DaughainMudassar: Dunno, if you chose karmic, then, that is 9.1023:50
Mudassarok23:50
arnibalyes amarok reads mp3 in other partitions !23:50
arnibali think not streaming23:50
DaughainMudassar: If you use that installer, it will prompt you as to which desktop you want. This is exactly how I installed kubuntu on one of my older laptops.23:50
arnibalvbecause jamendo ... and other not23:50
sithlord48arnibal, check to see if you have the package "pulseaudio" installed23:51
arnibalin firefox ?23:51
DaughainOn this one I did it differently, do to more resources.23:51
sithlord48arnibal, you can check in the add/remove program in systemsettings (or launch kpackagekit)23:51
Daughaindo==due23:51
MudassarOk I am ready with PXE, let's hope things work fine, going to reboot ... thanks see you23:53
arnibalsithlord48 I have 23 pulseauidio installeds23:54
arnibalsithlord48, I have 23 pulseauidio installeds23:54
iconmefisto_arnibal: in konsole: apt-cache policy pulseaudio23:55
claydohsithlord48: how long has it been down?23:55
sithlord48arnibal, i have started a private chat w/ you do you see it ?23:55
NightCor3how this dock called http://up196.siz.co.il/up1/tumlmdnzrtlw.png ? :(23:55
arnibalyes now !23:55
sithlord48claydoh, first noticed at work a few hours ago23:55
sithlord48arnibal, ttu there...23:56
claydohsithlord48: I will see if I can get hold of anyone, though I am sure the other mods are already on it23:56
sithlord48claydoh, who would be the correct ppl to contact i noticed you so your the one i told :)23:57
NightCor3how this dock called http://up196.siz.co.il/up1/tumlmdnzrtlw.png ? :(23:58
claydohOS is the owner, but the other mods (who are online far more often than I) probably have already done that23:58
sithlord48yea i noticed OS is never on...23:59
claydohhe is busier than i am it seems, tho I often don't log in and don't show23:59

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