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ubottuIn #ubuntu, ganymede said: !no, ask is <reply> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer, he or she will most likely reply. :-)00:31
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ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:31
Pici!ask =~ s/he or she/they/00:32
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ubottuIn ubottu, iflema said: !no, et is WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu00:33
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PiciWe really need a factoid diff for submissions... /me puts on his todo list00:34
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geniiSome spanish crew in #u01:05
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geniiThe hola crap again01:46
MenZaErghf.02:36
* genii slides MenZa02:37
geniia coffee02:37
MenZaThanks :)02:37
geniiMenZa: :)02:51
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ubottuAwesome3000 called the ops in #ubuntu (Linera)04:55
Myrttilooking04:56
Madpilotoverreaction04:57
Madpilotor maybe not. thick, trolling, or both?04:59
Myrttion atleast 2 chans04:59
razertekhello05:07
Myrttirazertek: hi, how can we help you?05:10
razertekMyrtti: hi05:12
razertekMyrtti: i recently emailed the council about joining the ops, i would like to be on the team05:13
razertekI have been reading over the guidelines and so forth05:13
Myrttiok...05:19
razertekMyrtti: I am looking to get to know the community better and help others as i learn myself and learn with others05:20
razertekMyrtti: I feel for what i know and have learned over the past year of having ubuntu I can be beneficial to the team/irc05:22
Myrttiand you've told this on your email?05:23
razertekMyrtti: and this seems to be a good starting point to be involved and learn and grow05:23
razertekMyrtti: no sir/maim05:24
razertekmyr i just simple asked about where to start05:24
Myrttiah05:25
razertekI have been reading a book by sybex on lpic-1 and have made it through the first half of the book covering exam 10105:26
razertekLooking forward to take the first exam early February05:27
razertekMyrtti: is there a certain contact or somewhere i need to look to get involved with the team05:37
MenZarazertek: An application process for prospective ops is currently being drafted (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2010-January/000857.html).05:48
MenZarazertek: The current policy is "we pick ops if we need them" -- I suggest you sit tight and wait for the IRC Council to finish up the guidelines for op approval, then ship off an application :)05:48
razertekyes sir05:49
razertek=)05:49
MenZaAnything else we can help you with?05:50
Myrttiin the mean time, you can follow the mailing lists and #ubuntu-irc05:51
MenZa ^ This is good advice, also.05:51
razertekdefinately05:54
razertekthank you all05:54
mneptokrazertek: one thing i wuld encourage you to do while on IRC is to always read a channel's /topic, and make sure you know the rules for being on that channel. it often greatly improves your experience, and people's impressions of you.06:04
MenZarazertek: What I think mneptok is trying to say is to adhere to the channel's no-idling policy.06:05
razertekmneptok: yes .. i will go now06:05
MenZamneptok: :P06:06
* mneptok polishes his halo06:06
Tm_Tgood morning, kids06:49
MenZamorning, Tm_T07:17
dholbachgood morning07:38
mneptokdholbach: heya07:42
dholbachhey mneptok07:42
mneptokdholbach: going to Reykjavik next month for a company meeting. i'm responsible for hotel booking and planning an excursion. any advice you may have ...07:43
dholbachwhen we were there we were just in a small hostel-type something, so I can't help with the hotel booking07:46
mneptokany ideas for a day-long excursion from the city?07:47
dholbachI think all the nice bars and "crazy stuff" like vegetarian restaurants, etc. were in Hverisgata07:47
dholbachyep, hang on07:47
mneptoklovely!07:47
dholbachthe blue lagoon is something where all the tourists go, just read up on it on wikipedia or wikitravel and let me have a look for the other one07:47
mneptokyeah, that's been suggested. but i'd like to do something that's a bit more than a single destination, since we have all day.07:48
dholbachright, let me try to find the name of it07:49
mneptoki suggested "swim to Greenland" but was voted down :/07:50
dholbachwe haven't been there ourselves back then but somebody we got to know did a day-trip to Snæfellsnes and he was really happy he went there, almost all his stories in the bar began with "When we went to Snæfellsnes..."07:50
dholbachhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snæfellsnes07:50
mneptokhmmm ... a bus tour stopping at some nice place may be just the thing. thanks!07:51
dholbachno worries07:52
mneptoki owe you a lapdance.07:56
elkyo.O07:57
dholbachmneptok: I'll ignore the offer, but thanks07:57
mneptokdholbach: you're as bad as my wimpy colleagues that don't want to swim to Greenland :(07:58
dholbachthere's nothing wrong with a bit of sport in the morning07:59
mneptoki love the smell of napalm in the morning. it smells like ... victory.08:02
elkyugh.08:04
elkymneptok, this is a logged channel, for crying out loud.08:04
mneptokelky: yes? and?08:05
elkyyou're being inappropriate.08:06
mneptokoh?08:06
elkylapdances and napalm are suddenly appropriate?08:07
mneptokelky: i'd let dholbach decide what's appropriate between him and me. and i have seen far, far worse from people like Keybuk in far more public channels, like -devel.08:10
Myrttibetween him and you, but you are on a public channel. I'm surprised you didn't ask in pm08:10
elkymneptok, this is a publicly logged channel. It's not just between him and you.08:10
mneptokUbuntu used to be fun. it used to be a place where work was serious, but the people were not. that seems to be changing, and not for the better.08:12
elkytalk about lapdancing and chemicals that strip skin from people were never really part of "fun" for me.08:13
mneptokelky: you do realize the napalm bit is a movie quote, yes?08:13
elkymneptok, i don't care.08:13
elkyi'm sure i can find "yo momma" jokes in movies too.08:14
elkyi'm sure i can find *worse* "jokes" in movies as well.08:14
elkydoesn't make them ok.08:14
jussi01Now lads and ladies, really, this discussion isnt taking us anywhere. Being oversensitive to items that come up in everyday life doesnt help, but being undersensitive to other peoples feelings also doesnt help. Lets try and not bite each other too hard ok?08:15
elkyjussi01, i don't want an every day life full of lap dances and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/TrangBang.jpg/250px-TrangBang.jpg08:16
Myrtti*sigh* meowbuntu...08:17
mneptokthat URL is far more inappropriate than anything i typed.08:17
elkymneptok, that url is what napalm is.  research Kim Phúc for a moment08:18
mneptokelky: i'm well aware of what napalm is. but your condescension is quite tasty served with my cocoa. thanks!08:19
MadpilotMyrtti, Linux for Cats? rly?09:15
MyrttiMadpilot: a person in #ubuntu09:18
MadpilotMyrtti, heh. beats "Guest12345" or "ubuntu" :)09:20
Myrttiooh. pain gone. *dance*09:22
Tm_Tkind reminded to all: we are supposed to be a good example09:24
ubottupaulproteus_ called the ops in #ubuntu-women ()09:27
Tm_Tsomeone please ^09:28
tsimpsonwhat's going on?09:30
* Myrtti looks09:30
elkycan someone s/elkbuntu/elky/ for the #ubuntu-women ops factoid please. I'm not sure i remember how to do the per-channel updates09:30
topylitroll on -women09:30
Myrttiwho, where?09:30
Tm_The's quiet now, for a second09:30
topylijiam09:30
elkytopyli, JimAM09:30
Myrtti@login09:32
ubottuThe operation succeeded.09:32
Myrttielky: should be done now09:32
elkythanks09:32
Tm_Tsillyness, bacta trying to guide the lost (:09:34
ikoniasillyness = bacta being in a channel09:34
Tm_Tikonia: not entirely (:)09:36
jussi01bacta has just as much right to be there as everyone else, as long has he behaves himself09:38
Tm_Tindeed09:38
Tm_Tand he's been behaving pretty well lately09:38
elkyjussi01, his mere presence there makes several people in that channel *very* uncomfortable based on encounters with him elsewhere. depends if you want women feeling safe in the for-women-to-feel-wanted channel09:39
Tm_Telky: true that too, has anyone said about it?09:39
elkydon't mistake social fallacies of geekdom for How Things Should Be Done.09:39
elkyTm_T, nobody's game to say anything because they'll get treated like crap for doing so.09:39
Tm_Telky: shouldn't09:40
elkyindeed.09:40
ikoniajussi01: don't talk political nonsense, at least be honest09:40
Tm_Twhat bit worries me is his enthusiasm to be "a good guy" exactly in that channel09:40
ikoniahes a knonw issue - while he behaves he has every right - he doesn't behave though09:40
ikoniaTm_T: that fact that you're worried about why he's being nice - is a bad sign of how much of a problem he is09:41
Tm_Tikonia: exactly (:09:41
Tm_Tbut then again, he's been behaving09:41
tsimpsonif he's causing issues in there, why is he not banned?09:41
elkyhe's trying to prove himself to certain folk with complete disregard for how he makes others feel, and this is in itself an issue with his behaviour profile.09:42
ikoniatsimpson: because he has had another chance for his 1000+ bans09:42
elkytsimpson, i want to ban him from there. I don't want to deal with the "but you're making the men feel unsafe" crap that keeping women safe involves.09:42
ikoniahis behaviour of late has been pretty much sit in a channel and be silent - that's not "good", but evenly so, it's not bad09:43
elkytsimpson, it's a ridiculous, poisoned and complicated situation, and it's hurting me way too much right now.09:43
tsimpsonif his being in the channel is an issue, then the u-w leadership should make a decision about it09:46
elkythe u-w leadership doesn't really understand the situation and is more likely to go for the "but you're scaring men"09:47
Tm_Telky: if this is brought up by man?09:48
Tm_T...this shouldn't matter, argh09:48
Tm_TI hate this09:48
elkyTm_T, welcome to how i feel right now.09:48
Tm_Telky: pretty much how I feel about too many things ):09:49
elkyi don't really know how to take the issue to her. i really don't.09:55
elkyi suspect it'd result in a lot of flailing and trying to please everyone.09:57
Tm_Telky: if you know who has trouble bacta being around, get them forward to me, and I'll try to collect something, perhaps?09:58
elkyTm_T, i've just PM'd you. see the dilemma?09:59
Tm_Troger10:02
elkySeeker`, is mootbot b0rken somewhere?10:09
lhavelundMenZa: Die.11:06
Myrttilhavelund: /msg nickserv ghost :-P11:06
Tm_Tkids...11:09
lhavelundMyrtti: It's still connected.11:12
lhavelundSo, no.11:12
lhavelundIt's just refusing my in-bound ssh connection.11:12
lhavelundWhich is REALLY weird.11:12
jussi01MenZa's dead...11:24
jussi01:P11:24
lhavelundApparently it is.11:29
lhavelundI am changing host veeery soon.11:29
* lhavelund growls.11:30
* Tm_T loves his/her/its host11:38
gordihavelund sounds like an email virus11:39
lhavelundIT'S AN L, YOU SILLY BEAR.11:44
lhavelundGO BACK TO MONOSPACE.11:44
lhavelund>:(11:44
gordsure looks like an I11:45
lhavelundNo, it does not.11:45
lhavelundThere's a very clear difference. >:(11:45
gordokay then Ihavelund11:46
lhavelund:(11:46
Mamarokwho is that meowkubuntu person in #kubuntu?11:52
Mamarokhe is telling people to Google or "do you expect us to spoonfeed you"...11:52
Tm_The is the meowubuntu elsewhere11:56
Tm_Tknown to be bit troublish11:57
Tm_Tanyway, gotta go11:57
MamarokI am that close to kick that person12:05
lhavelund._.12:13
ikonialhavelund: whats up?12:35
Mamarokgah, what's wrong with people today? Full moon or so?12:49
ikoniamaybe a little12:54
* ikonia realigns himself12:54
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Myrtti!pm > pintook14:55
Piciblar?14:59
geniiPici: I was pondering that myself14:59
PiciBlar is how I feel on monday mornings.15:00
Myrttibroken English15:00
pleia2s/monday//15:00
Picipleia2: :)15:01
* genii goes back to smashing out wall sections to get at the plumbing15:07
jumanjikohi how do i play HD movies ?15:26
ikoniahi there15:26
ikoniayou need to join #ubuntu to ask that, or you may have been forwarded here from #ubuntu due to a previous issue, on moment while I check please.15:27
Myrttijumanjiko: your ident has the word fuck in it. you'll not get to #ubuntu before you change that15:27
jumanjikooh15:27
jumanjikook thanks15:27
ikoniaMyrtti: ooh, well spotted15:27
Myrttiikonia: not the first time he's been here, I noticed it then15:28
ikoniaah15:28
ikoniaI didn't see it at all when he joined, thank you15:28
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Oppehey, i cant join at ubuntu it forwards me here15:46
PiciOppe: Please remove the ident you have configured for your irc client. Its currently set as 'fuck'.15:47
Picis/remove/chaneg/15:47
Picichange rather.  (stupid fingers)15:47
Oppeoh ok..15:47
Oppethx15:47
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Mamarokouch, student at a prestigious technical highschool like epfl, but still using silly idents...16:18
Tm_T?16:19
MamarokTm_T: his ident says epfl.ch, that's one of the 10 best Technical Highschools in the world, bet in Switzerland16:20
Mamarokbest*16:20
Tm_Tok16:20
Tm_TMamarok: that's the thing, being smart in school doesn't mean being smart in social stuff16:21
Mamarokindeed16:21
h00kjust wanted to let you know quick that skeelol in #ubuntu is a bot and seems to be autoresponding to triggers and !google16:26
h00kappears to be a bot, anyway.16:26
h00kthanks!16:27
Piciodd19:14
Pici14:14:08 <?m4j> trek: how can i get in touch with jono19:14
gordwhy, you whisper "jono..." softy into the wind of course19:21
Picigord: I thought you had to say his name three times19:22
gordwell yeah but then he shows up in the mirrors and kills the version of you in the mirror. do you want to go about the rest of your life with no soul? didn't think so19:22
mneptoki thought he would then show up and wreck your miniature town.19:23
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (Nikty)19:51
ubottullutz called the ops in #ubuntu (Nikty)19:51
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PiciIt probably should have more information too20:01
tsimpsongenii is a stealthy editor20:01
* genii sips20:03
geniitsimpson: Right now I have a minute or two here and there... not enough to give extensive help in #k, #u, etc but at least to make minor edits. Shoulda probably noted it here though20:08
tonyyarussoAre packages ever updated in the 'karmic' repository section, or does everything go to either 'karmic-updates' or 'karmic-backports' ?20:28
tonyyarussoerrrrr, I meant 'karmic-security', not backports20:28
tsimpsononly -updates and -security packages should be updated20:43
Myrttiwould someone have a look at -ot while I go and sleep for a while?20:53
gordi'll keep an eye open Myrtti20:54
Myrttithankies20:59
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: how can we help ?21:59
HOTSAUCEYou kicked me. ;_;21:59
ikoniayes, you spammed the channel with a request to join other channels22:00
HOTSAUCEI didn't spam.22:00
HOTSAUCEI said it once.22:00
ikoniayou did22:00
ikoniathat's still spam22:00
HOTSAUCEmkay?22:00
HOTSAUCENej.22:00
ikoniaspam doesn't have to be multiple posts22:00
ikoniaare you aware of the channels rules22:00
HOTSAUCEDid you even look in #1000,0?22:01
ikoniano22:01
ikoniaare you aware of the channels rules22:01
HOTSAUCENo22:01
ikoniaok,22:01
ikonia!ircguidelines | HOTSAUCE22:01
ubottuHOTSAUCE: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines22:01
ikonia!coc | HOTSAUCE22:01
ubottuHOTSAUCE: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .22:01
HOTSAUCECool story, bro.22:01
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: check out those links, they explain your expected behaviour in the ubuntu channels22:01
HOTSAUCEI didn't post a room.22:03
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: you've just re-joined #ubuntu and tried to do it again22:03
ikoniayou're now banned22:03
HOTSAUCEI didn't even post a room to join.22:03
HOTSAUCELawlz.22:03
ikoniayou appear to be trying to provoke something, so I request you leave the channel and read the rules of the channel as you testing the rules in #ubuntu is a disruption22:04
HOTSAUCE"you where told not to"22:04
HOTSAUCEWhere?22:04
ikoniaI told you in here not to do it22:05
coolkehonhi22:05
ikoniahello22:05
coolkehonHOTSAUCE: are u an op?22:05
HOTSAUCEObviously not.22:05
coolkehonhow come ubuntu is so cool22:05
ikoniacoolkehon: what do you need from the operators today22:06
coolkehonHOTSAUCE: i mean a ubuntu person thingy -.-22:06
coolkehonikonia: nothing22:06
coolkehonjust saying hi22:06
ikoniacoolkehon: if you don't need anything please respect the channel topic and leave the channel22:06
coolkehonok22:06
coolkehonsorry22:06
ikoniathank you22:06
HOTSAUCEYes, I own ubuntu. coolkehon22:06
coolkehongood bye my friends22:06
coolkehon?22:06
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: enough22:06
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: if there is nothing else, please leave the channel22:06
HOTSAUCENEVER22:06
HOTSAUCE:D22:06
coolkehonkick him!!!22:06
HOTSAUCEcoolkehon, I created ubuntu.22:06
ikoniaHOTSAUCE: please leave if there is nothing more to discuss22:07
HOTSAUCEWhy don't you leave as there is nothing more to discuss?22:07
coolkehonis the ban on shellium still there22:07
ikoniacoolkehon: please leave if you have nothing more to discuss22:07
coolkehoni'm not sure how to check it22:07
coolkehonthat is the discussion22:07
coolkehonthere was a ban about a few weeks ago22:08
ikoniacoolkehon: no, I don't believe it is, you're welcome to try joining the channel, if you have a problem please let us know22:08
coolkehonon shellium members22:08
ikoniaI don't believe that is still there22:08
coolkehoni'd have to change my mask22:08
coolkehonok thanks22:08
coolkehonwhy hasn't HOTSAUCE been kicked yet?22:08
HOTSAUCEBecause they can't kick me.22:08
ikoniacoolkehon: please leave the channel if you have nothing more needed form the operators22:08
HOTSAUCELOL22:09
coolkehonikonia: i like guyz so ima leave22:09
HOTSAUCEoops.22:09
coolkehonhi mneptok and bye22:09
ikoniathank you22:09
mneptokyessah22:09
coolkehoncan i just chill here22:12
coolkehoni won't say anything22:12
neconidecoolkehon, good idea22:12
ikoniaguys - please check the topic22:12
coolkehonsorry22:12
coolkehonwill do i neglected to read it before22:13
coolkehonPlease exit the channel once your issue is dealt with. | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel22:13
ikonianeconide: do you need anything ?22:13
coolkehonoh22:13
coolkehonmk22:13
neconidehmmmm22:13
neconideikonia, what do I have to say to be able to idle, yes or no?22:14
ikonianeconide: if you don't need anything from the operator team, please don't idle22:14
ikoniacoolkehon: that goes for you too22:14
elky!logs22:14
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/22:14
neconideuhm22:14
elkyanything you need to witness here you can do so via the logs above. enjoy.22:14
neconideI do need something actually22:14
neconideunban me from #debian22:15
ikonianeconide: please ask22:15
coolkehonoh22:15
ikonianeconide: we don't control debian22:15
coolkehonsorry forgot to part :P22:15
elkyneconide, outside our scope.22:15
neconideelky, you lie22:15
ikoniasame guy as hotsauce trolling gentoo by the looks of it22:15
elkywhat's the moon phase?22:16
ikoniastupid phase22:16
elkyi think i need a gnome panel symbol that draws data from a lunar almanac22:16
elkysurely there is one...22:16
ikoniamake one !22:17
elky:-/22:17
elkyi prefer it when they make themselves :P22:17
ikoniaha22:17
topylithere used to be a moon applet iirc in the 40s, but it was too fun for gnome222:18
topyliit's okay though, they kept wanda so i'm happy22:18
elkyanyway, i need to *whimper* go back to work. if you find a spare time machine, gimme, mkay?22:18
ikoniano problem22:18
* Mamarok has just checked the Moon widget in her panel...silly week ahead :(22:48
mneptoksudo apt-get install glunarclock22:49

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