[00:31] <Pici> !ask
[00:32] <Pici> !ask =~ s/he or she/they/
[00:32] <Pici> er
[00:34] <Pici> !wine
[00:34] <Pici> We really need a factoid diff for submissions... /me puts on his todo list
[00:35] <Pici> !et
[00:35] <mneptok> !phonehome
[00:35] <Pici> :(
[00:35] <mneptok> poor ET. trapped with Elliot.
[01:05] <genii> Some spanish crew in #u
[01:46] <genii> The hola crap again
[02:36] <MenZa> Erghf.
[02:37]  * genii slides MenZa
[02:37] <genii> a coffee
[02:37] <MenZa> Thanks :)
[02:51] <genii> MenZa: :)
[02:53]  * MenZa huggles genii 
[04:56] <Myrtti> looking
[04:57] <Madpilot> overreaction
[04:59] <Madpilot> or maybe not. thick, trolling, or both?
[04:59] <Myrtti> on atleast 2 chans
[05:07] <razertek> hello
[05:10] <Myrtti> razertek: hi, how can we help you?
[05:12] <razertek> Myrtti: hi
[05:13] <razertek> Myrtti: i recently emailed the council about joining the ops, i would like to be on the team
[05:13] <razertek> I have been reading over the guidelines and so forth
[05:19] <Myrtti> ok...
[05:20] <razertek> Myrtti: I am looking to get to know the community better and help others as i learn myself and learn with others
[05:22] <razertek> Myrtti: I feel for what i know and have learned over the past year of having ubuntu I can be beneficial to the team/irc
[05:23] <Myrtti> and you've told this on your email?
[05:23] <razertek> Myrtti: and this seems to be a good starting point to be involved and learn and grow
[05:24] <razertek> Myrtti: no sir/maim
[05:24] <razertek> myr i just simple asked about where to start
[05:25] <Myrtti> ah
[05:26] <razertek> I have been reading a book by sybex on lpic-1 and have made it through the first half of the book covering exam 101
[05:27] <razertek> Looking forward to take the first exam early February
[05:37] <razertek> Myrtti: is there a certain contact or somewhere i need to look to get involved with the team
[05:48] <MenZa> razertek: An application process for prospective ops is currently being drafted (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2010-January/000857.html).
[05:48] <MenZa> razertek: The current policy is "we pick ops if we need them" -- I suggest you sit tight and wait for the IRC Council to finish up the guidelines for op approval, then ship off an application :)
[05:49] <razertek> yes sir
[05:49] <razertek> =)
[05:50] <MenZa> Anything else we can help you with?
[05:51] <Myrtti> in the mean time, you can follow the mailing lists and #ubuntu-irc
[05:51] <MenZa>  ^ This is good advice, also.
[05:54] <razertek> definately
[05:54] <razertek> thank you all
[06:04] <mneptok> razertek: one thing i wuld encourage you to do while on IRC is to always read a channel's /topic, and make sure you know the rules for being on that channel. it often greatly improves your experience, and people's impressions of you.
[06:05] <MenZa> razertek: What I think mneptok is trying to say is to adhere to the channel's no-idling policy.
[06:05] <razertek> mneptok: yes .. i will go now
[06:06] <MenZa> mneptok: :P
[06:06]  * mneptok polishes his halo
[06:49] <Tm_T> good morning, kids
[07:17] <MenZa> morning, Tm_T
[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <mneptok> dholbach: heya
[07:42] <dholbach> hey mneptok
[07:43] <mneptok> dholbach: going to Reykjavik next month for a company meeting. i'm responsible for hotel booking and planning an excursion. any advice you may have ...
[07:46] <dholbach> when we were there we were just in a small hostel-type something, so I can't help with the hotel booking
[07:47] <mneptok> any ideas for a day-long excursion from the city?
[07:47] <dholbach> I think all the nice bars and "crazy stuff" like vegetarian restaurants, etc. were in Hverisgata
[07:47] <dholbach> yep, hang on
[07:47] <mneptok> lovely!
[07:47] <dholbach> the blue lagoon is something where all the tourists go, just read up on it on wikipedia or wikitravel and let me have a look for the other one
[07:48] <mneptok> yeah, that's been suggested. but i'd like to do something that's a bit more than a single destination, since we have all day.
[07:49] <dholbach> right, let me try to find the name of it
[07:50] <mneptok> i suggested "swim to Greenland" but was voted down :/
[07:50] <dholbach> we haven't been there ourselves back then but somebody we got to know did a day-trip to Snæfellsnes and he was really happy he went there, almost all his stories in the bar began with "When we went to Snæfellsnes..."
[07:50] <dholbach> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snæfellsnes
[07:51] <mneptok> hmmm ... a bus tour stopping at some nice place may be just the thing. thanks!
[07:52] <dholbach> no worries
[07:56] <mneptok> i owe you a lapdance.
[07:57] <elky> o.O
[07:57] <dholbach> mneptok: I'll ignore the offer, but thanks
[07:58] <mneptok> dholbach: you're as bad as my wimpy colleagues that don't want to swim to Greenland :(
[07:59] <dholbach> there's nothing wrong with a bit of sport in the morning
[08:02] <mneptok> i love the smell of napalm in the morning. it smells like ... victory.
[08:04] <elky> ugh.
[08:04] <elky> mneptok, this is a logged channel, for crying out loud.
[08:05] <mneptok> elky: yes? and?
[08:06] <elky> you're being inappropriate.
[08:06] <mneptok> oh?
[08:07] <elky> lapdances and napalm are suddenly appropriate?
[08:10] <mneptok> elky: i'd let dholbach decide what's appropriate between him and me. and i have seen far, far worse from people like Keybuk in far more public channels, like -devel.
[08:10] <Myrtti> between him and you, but you are on a public channel. I'm surprised you didn't ask in pm
[08:10] <elky> mneptok, this is a publicly logged channel. It's not just between him and you.
[08:12] <mneptok> Ubuntu used to be fun. it used to be a place where work was serious, but the people were not. that seems to be changing, and not for the better.
[08:13] <elky> talk about lapdancing and chemicals that strip skin from people were never really part of "fun" for me.
[08:13] <mneptok> elky: you do realize the napalm bit is a movie quote, yes?
[08:13] <elky> mneptok, i don't care.
[08:14] <elky> i'm sure i can find "yo momma" jokes in movies too.
[08:14] <elky> i'm sure i can find *worse* "jokes" in movies as well.
[08:14] <elky> doesn't make them ok.
[08:15] <jussi01> Now lads and ladies, really, this discussion isnt taking us anywhere. Being oversensitive to items that come up in everyday life doesnt help, but being undersensitive to other peoples feelings also doesnt help. Lets try and not bite each other too hard ok?
[08:16] <elky> jussi01, i don't want an every day life full of lap dances and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/TrangBang.jpg/250px-TrangBang.jpg
[08:17] <Myrtti> *sigh* meowbuntu...
[08:17] <mneptok> that URL is far more inappropriate than anything i typed.
[08:18] <elky> mneptok, that url is what napalm is.  research Kim Phúc for a moment
[08:19] <mneptok> elky: i'm well aware of what napalm is. but your condescension is quite tasty served with my cocoa. thanks!
[09:15] <Madpilot> Myrtti, Linux for Cats? rly?
[09:18] <Myrtti> Madpilot: a person in #ubuntu
[09:20] <Madpilot> Myrtti, heh. beats "Guest12345" or "ubuntu" :)
[09:22] <Myrtti> ooh. pain gone. *dance*
[09:24] <Tm_T> kind reminded to all: we are supposed to be a good example
[09:28] <Tm_T> someone please ^
[09:30] <tsimpson> what's going on?
[09:30]  * Myrtti looks
[09:30] <elky> can someone s/elkbuntu/elky/ for the #ubuntu-women ops factoid please. I'm not sure i remember how to do the per-channel updates
[09:30] <topyli> troll on -women
[09:30] <Myrtti> who, where?
[09:30] <Tm_T> he's quiet now, for a second
[09:30] <topyli> jiam
[09:30] <elky> topyli, JimAM
[09:32] <Myrtti> @login
[09:32] <Myrtti> elky: should be done now
[09:32] <elky> thanks
[09:34] <Tm_T> sillyness, bacta trying to guide the lost (:
[09:34] <ikonia> sillyness = bacta being in a channel
[09:36] <Tm_T> ikonia: not entirely (:)
[09:38] <jussi01> bacta has just as much right to be there as everyone else, as long has he behaves himself
[09:38] <Tm_T> indeed
[09:38] <Tm_T> and he's been behaving pretty well lately
[09:39] <elky> jussi01, his mere presence there makes several people in that channel *very* uncomfortable based on encounters with him elsewhere. depends if you want women feeling safe in the for-women-to-feel-wanted channel
[09:39] <Tm_T> elky: true that too, has anyone said about it?
[09:39] <elky> don't mistake social fallacies of geekdom for How Things Should Be Done.
[09:39] <elky> Tm_T, nobody's game to say anything because they'll get treated like crap for doing so.
[09:40] <Tm_T> elky: shouldn't
[09:40] <elky> indeed.
[09:40] <ikonia> jussi01: don't talk political nonsense, at least be honest
[09:40] <Tm_T> what bit worries me is his enthusiasm to be "a good guy" exactly in that channel
[09:40] <ikonia> hes a knonw issue - while he behaves he has every right - he doesn't behave though
[09:41] <ikonia> Tm_T: that fact that you're worried about why he's being nice - is a bad sign of how much of a problem he is
[09:41] <Tm_T> ikonia: exactly (:
[09:41] <Tm_T> but then again, he's been behaving
[09:41] <tsimpson> if he's causing issues in there, why is he not banned?
[09:42] <elky> he's trying to prove himself to certain folk with complete disregard for how he makes others feel, and this is in itself an issue with his behaviour profile.
[09:42] <ikonia> tsimpson: because he has had another chance for his 1000+ bans
[09:42] <elky> tsimpson, i want to ban him from there. I don't want to deal with the "but you're making the men feel unsafe" crap that keeping women safe involves.
[09:43] <ikonia> his behaviour of late has been pretty much sit in a channel and be silent - that's not "good", but evenly so, it's not bad
[09:43] <elky> tsimpson, it's a ridiculous, poisoned and complicated situation, and it's hurting me way too much right now.
[09:46] <tsimpson> if his being in the channel is an issue, then the u-w leadership should make a decision about it
[09:47] <elky> the u-w leadership doesn't really understand the situation and is more likely to go for the "but you're scaring men"
[09:48] <Tm_T> elky: if this is brought up by man?
[09:48] <Tm_T> ...this shouldn't matter, argh
[09:48] <Tm_T> I hate this
[09:48] <elky> Tm_T, welcome to how i feel right now.
[09:49] <Tm_T> elky: pretty much how I feel about too many things ):
[09:55] <elky> i don't really know how to take the issue to her. i really don't.
[09:57] <elky> i suspect it'd result in a lot of flailing and trying to please everyone.
[09:58] <Tm_T> elky: if you know who has trouble bacta being around, get them forward to me, and I'll try to collect something, perhaps?
[09:59] <elky> Tm_T, i've just PM'd you. see the dilemma?
[10:02] <Tm_T> roger
[10:09] <elky> Seeker`, is mootbot b0rken somewhere?
[11:06] <lhavelund> MenZa: Die.
[11:06] <Myrtti> lhavelund: /msg nickserv ghost :-P
[11:09] <Tm_T> kids...
[11:12] <lhavelund> Myrtti: It's still connected.
[11:12] <lhavelund> So, no.
[11:12] <lhavelund> It's just refusing my in-bound ssh connection.
[11:12] <lhavelund> Which is REALLY weird.
[11:24] <jussi01> MenZa's dead...
[11:24] <jussi01> :P
[11:29] <lhavelund> Apparently it is.
[11:29] <lhavelund> I am changing host veeery soon.
[11:30]  * lhavelund growls.
[11:38]  * Tm_T loves his/her/its host
[11:39] <gord> ihavelund sounds like an email virus
[11:44] <lhavelund> IT'S AN L, YOU SILLY BEAR.
[11:44] <lhavelund> GO BACK TO MONOSPACE.
[11:44] <lhavelund> >:(
[11:45] <gord> sure looks like an I
[11:45] <lhavelund> No, it does not.
[11:45] <lhavelund> There's a very clear difference. >:(
[11:46] <gord> okay then Ihavelund
[11:46] <lhavelund> :(
[11:52] <Mamarok> who is that meowkubuntu person in #kubuntu?
[11:52] <Mamarok> he is telling people to Google or "do you expect us to spoonfeed you"...
[11:56] <Tm_T> he is the meowubuntu elsewhere
[11:57] <Tm_T> known to be bit troublish
[11:57] <Tm_T> anyway, gotta go
[12:05] <Mamarok> I am that close to kick that person
[12:13] <lhavelund> ._.
[12:35] <ikonia> lhavelund: whats up?
[12:49] <Mamarok> gah, what's wrong with people today? Full moon or so?
[12:54] <ikonia> maybe a little
[12:54]  * ikonia realigns himself
[14:55] <Myrtti> !pm > pintook
[14:59] <Pici> blar?
[14:59] <genii> Pici: I was pondering that myself
[15:00] <Pici> Blar is how I feel on monday mornings.
[15:00] <Myrtti> broken English
[15:00] <pleia2> s/monday//
[15:01] <Pici> pleia2: :)
[15:07]  * genii goes back to smashing out wall sections to get at the plumbing
[15:26] <jumanjiko> hi how do i play HD movies ?
[15:26] <ikonia> hi there
[15:27] <ikonia> you need to join #ubuntu to ask that, or you may have been forwarded here from #ubuntu due to a previous issue, on moment while I check please.
[15:27] <Myrtti> jumanjiko: your ident has the word fuck in it. you'll not get to #ubuntu before you change that
[15:27] <jumanjiko> oh
[15:27] <jumanjiko> ok thanks
[15:27] <ikonia> Myrtti: ooh, well spotted
[15:28] <Myrtti> ikonia: not the first time he's been here, I noticed it then
[15:28] <ikonia> ah
[15:28] <ikonia> I didn't see it at all when he joined, thank you
[15:46] <Oppe> hey, i cant join at ubuntu it forwards me here
[15:47] <Pici> Oppe: Please remove the ident you have configured for your irc client. Its currently set as 'fuck'.
[15:47] <Pici> s/remove/chaneg/
[15:47] <Pici> change rather.  (stupid fingers)
[15:47] <Oppe> oh ok..
[15:47] <Oppe> thx
[16:18] <Mamarok> ouch, student at a prestigious technical highschool like epfl, but still using silly idents...
[16:19] <Tm_T> ?
[16:20] <Mamarok> Tm_T: his ident says epfl.ch, that's one of the 10 best Technical Highschools in the world, bet in Switzerland
[16:20] <Mamarok> best*
[16:20] <Tm_T> ok
[16:21] <Tm_T> Mamarok: that's the thing, being smart in school doesn't mean being smart in social stuff
[16:21] <Mamarok> indeed
[16:26] <h00k> just wanted to let you know quick that skeelol in #ubuntu is a bot and seems to be autoresponding to triggers and !google
[16:26] <h00k> appears to be a bot, anyway.
[16:27] <h00k> thanks!
[19:14] <Pici> odd
[19:14] <Pici> 14:14:08 <?m4j> trek: how can i get in touch with jono
[19:21] <gord> why, you whisper "jono..." softy into the wind of course
[19:22] <Pici> gord: I thought you had to say his name three times
[19:22] <gord> well yeah but then he shows up in the mirrors and kills the version of you in the mirror. do you want to go about the rest of your life with no soul? didn't think so
[19:23] <mneptok> i thought he would then show up and wreck your miniature town.
[19:56] <steffan> ubottu shows this output for vpn 'From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN'
[19:56] <steffan> s/from/for
[20:01] <tsimpson> !vpn ~= s/From/For/
[20:01] <tsimpson> !vpn
[20:01] <Pici> It probably should have more information too
[20:01] <tsimpson> genii is a stealthy editor
[20:03]  * genii sips
[20:08] <genii> tsimpson: Right now I have a minute or two here and there... not enough to give extensive help in #k, #u, etc but at least to make minor edits. Shoulda probably noted it here though
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> Are packages ever updated in the 'karmic' repository section, or does everything go to either 'karmic-updates' or 'karmic-backports' ?
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> errrrr, I meant 'karmic-security', not backports
[20:43] <tsimpson> only -updates and -security packages should be updated
[20:53] <Myrtti> would someone have a look at -ot while I go and sleep for a while?
[20:54] <gord> i'll keep an eye open Myrtti
[20:59] <Myrtti> thankies
[21:59] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: how can we help ?
[21:59] <HOTSAUCE> You kicked me. ;_;
[22:00] <ikonia> yes, you spammed the channel with a request to join other channels
[22:00] <HOTSAUCE> I didn't spam.
[22:00] <HOTSAUCE> I said it once.
[22:00] <ikonia> you did
[22:00] <ikonia> that's still spam
[22:00] <HOTSAUCE> mkay?
[22:00] <HOTSAUCE> Nej.
[22:00] <ikonia> spam doesn't have to be multiple posts
[22:00] <ikonia> are you aware of the channels rules
[22:01] <HOTSAUCE> Did you even look in #1000,0?
[22:01] <ikonia> no
[22:01] <ikonia> are you aware of the channels rules
[22:01] <HOTSAUCE> No
[22:01] <ikonia> ok,
[22:01] <ikonia> !ircguidelines | HOTSAUCE
[22:01] <ikonia> !coc | HOTSAUCE
[22:01] <HOTSAUCE> Cool story, bro.
[22:01] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: check out those links, they explain your expected behaviour in the ubuntu channels
[22:03] <HOTSAUCE> I didn't post a room.
[22:03] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: you've just re-joined #ubuntu and tried to do it again
[22:03] <ikonia> you're now banned
[22:03] <HOTSAUCE> I didn't even post a room to join.
[22:03] <HOTSAUCE> Lawlz.
[22:04] <ikonia> you appear to be trying to provoke something, so I request you leave the channel and read the rules of the channel as you testing the rules in #ubuntu is a disruption
[22:04] <HOTSAUCE> "you where told not to"
[22:04] <HOTSAUCE> Where?
[22:05] <ikonia> I told you in here not to do it
[22:05] <coolkehon> hi
[22:05] <ikonia> hello
[22:05] <coolkehon> HOTSAUCE: are u an op?
[22:05] <HOTSAUCE> Obviously not.
[22:05] <coolkehon> how come ubuntu is so cool
[22:06] <ikonia> coolkehon: what do you need from the operators today
[22:06] <coolkehon> HOTSAUCE: i mean a ubuntu person thingy -.-
[22:06] <coolkehon> ikonia: nothing
[22:06] <coolkehon> just saying hi
[22:06] <ikonia> coolkehon: if you don't need anything please respect the channel topic and leave the channel
[22:06] <coolkehon> ok
[22:06] <coolkehon> sorry
[22:06] <ikonia> thank you
[22:06] <HOTSAUCE> Yes, I own ubuntu. coolkehon
[22:06] <coolkehon> good bye my friends
[22:06] <coolkehon> ?
[22:06] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: enough
[22:06] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: if there is nothing else, please leave the channel
[22:06] <HOTSAUCE> NEVER
[22:06] <HOTSAUCE> :D
[22:06] <coolkehon> kick him!!!
[22:06] <HOTSAUCE> coolkehon, I created ubuntu.
[22:07] <ikonia> HOTSAUCE: please leave if there is nothing more to discuss
[22:07] <HOTSAUCE> Why don't you leave as there is nothing more to discuss?
[22:07] <coolkehon> is the ban on shellium still there
[22:07] <ikonia> coolkehon: please leave if you have nothing more to discuss
[22:07] <coolkehon> i'm not sure how to check it
[22:07] <coolkehon> that is the discussion
[22:08] <coolkehon> there was a ban about a few weeks ago
[22:08] <ikonia> coolkehon: no, I don't believe it is, you're welcome to try joining the channel, if you have a problem please let us know
[22:08] <coolkehon> on shellium members
[22:08] <ikonia> I don't believe that is still there
[22:08] <coolkehon> i'd have to change my mask
[22:08] <coolkehon> ok thanks
[22:08] <coolkehon> why hasn't HOTSAUCE been kicked yet?
[22:08] <HOTSAUCE> Because they can't kick me.
[22:08] <ikonia> coolkehon: please leave the channel if you have nothing more needed form the operators
[22:09] <HOTSAUCE> LOL
[22:09] <coolkehon> ikonia: i like guyz so ima leave
[22:09] <HOTSAUCE> oops.
[22:09] <coolkehon> hi mneptok and bye
[22:09] <ikonia> thank you
[22:09] <mneptok> yessah
[22:12] <coolkehon> can i just chill here
[22:12] <coolkehon> i won't say anything
[22:12] <neconide> coolkehon, good idea
[22:12] <ikonia> guys - please check the topic
[22:12] <coolkehon> sorry
[22:13] <coolkehon> will do i neglected to read it before
[22:13] <coolkehon> Please exit the channel once your issue is dealt with. | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel
[22:13] <ikonia> neconide: do you need anything ?
[22:13] <coolkehon> oh
[22:13] <coolkehon> mk
[22:13] <neconide> hmmmm
[22:14] <neconide> ikonia, what do I have to say to be able to idle, yes or no?
[22:14] <ikonia> neconide: if you don't need anything from the operator team, please don't idle
[22:14] <ikonia> coolkehon: that goes for you too
[22:14] <elky> !logs
[22:14] <neconide> uhm
[22:14] <elky> anything you need to witness here you can do so via the logs above. enjoy.
[22:14] <neconide> I do need something actually
[22:15] <neconide> unban me from #debian
[22:15] <ikonia> neconide: please ask
[22:15] <coolkehon> oh
[22:15] <ikonia> neconide: we don't control debian
[22:15] <coolkehon> sorry forgot to part :P
[22:15] <elky> neconide, outside our scope.
[22:15] <neconide> elky, you lie
[22:15] <ikonia> same guy as hotsauce trolling gentoo by the looks of it
[22:16] <elky> what's the moon phase?
[22:16] <ikonia> stupid phase
[22:16] <elky> i think i need a gnome panel symbol that draws data from a lunar almanac
[22:16] <elky> surely there is one...
[22:17] <ikonia> make one !
[22:17] <elky> :-/
[22:17] <elky> i prefer it when they make themselves :P
[22:17] <ikonia> ha
[22:18] <topyli> there used to be a moon applet iirc in the 40s, but it was too fun for gnome2
[22:18] <topyli> it's okay though, they kept wanda so i'm happy
[22:18] <elky> anyway, i need to *whimper* go back to work. if you find a spare time machine, gimme, mkay?
[22:18] <ikonia> no problem
[22:48]  * Mamarok has just checked the Moon widget in her panel...silly week ahead :(
[22:49] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install glunarclock