[01:25] <Takyoji> Gah; too bad I don't leave really close to the cities
[01:27] <_diablo> I do what's going on
[01:28] <Takyoji> The recent message on the Ubuntu Minnesota mailing list (of Penguins Unbound)
[01:29] <_diablo> dammit. I'm going to be in Missouri this weekend :(
[01:29] <_diablo> I wish they'd let us know what the topic is sooner :(
[02:07] <Takyoji> Awkward; for some reason I just can't set the output resolution in Handbrake anymore..
[02:09] <_diablo> weird.
[02:09] <_diablo> I use thoggen so I can't really help
[02:10] <Takyoji> AAC; is that the audio format by Apple?
[02:11] <Takyoji> Erm; I'm thinking of something else
[02:11] <_diablo> Takyoji, I think you're right
[02:11] <Takyoji> For wider compatibility; would MP3 be better to use than AAC
[02:11] <_diablo> it's a lossy format, but I think it's the one behind mp4 used by apple
[02:11] <_diablo> Takyoji, or just use .ogg :)
[02:12] <Takyoji> I wish we lived in such a world. :P
[02:12] <Takyoji> I'm doing the fallback version first, I'll also have a Theora+Vorbis version as well
[02:12] <_diablo> Takyoji, if someone doesn't use songbird or vlc, then that's their problem lol
[02:12] <_diablo> but yeah, I understand where you're coming from
[02:13] <Takyoji> I'm curious; I haven't really found any tutorials on making an HTML5 video player yet..
[02:15] <_diablo> same
[02:16] <Takyoji> Even though I could just RTFM
[02:17] <_diablo> lol
[02:18] <Takyoji> Mozilla's developer documentation
[02:18] <Takyoji> or the W3C specification
[02:19] <_diablo> yup
[04:02] <Takyoji> So; what would be some interesting basic projects that beginner computer users could do (of what would be interesting)?
[04:03] <Takyoji> While also tying in some FOSS as well
[04:04] <Takyoji> that could also be done on Windows
[04:10] <Obsidian1723> hi all
[04:13] <Takyoji> Hello
[04:13] <Obsidian1723> So you want projects fo Windows users or just users of FOSS?
[04:15] <Obsidian1723> ?
[04:15] <Takyoji> Well; to explain the details: it's a "Introduction to Business Applications", although seems to be a bit of keyboarding as well. Occasionally students may finish early, thus I figure it would be useful to have other things they can do in the mean time, to learn more.
[04:17] <Obsidian1723> Interesting... I have a thought onthe idea... why not come to a meeting at FGTC and we can work together on it? We need to put together some stuff to train new users of Linux. Right now we are still getting up and going, but when things start rolling when we open, it'd be good to have a head-start of some training material.
[04:17] <Obsidian1723> Just a thought....
[04:18] <Takyoji> A good possibility
[04:18] <Takyoji> Minor disclaimer: I'm not the teacher of the class or anything; I'm just a student that's somewhat tutoring a bit
[04:18] <Obsidian1723> Gotcha.
[04:19] <Obsidian1723> Well, if you want more info............ http://freegeektwincities.org
[04:19] <Takyoji> But still; I want to do as much in my ability.
[04:19] <Obsidian1723> Have you seen the Promote Ubuntu website?
[04:19] <Takyoji> And as another note; it's like an hour for me to get to the Twin Cities area (I'm in Faribault)
[04:20] <Takyoji> Yea, I'm aware of Spread Ubuntu; I'm on the Ubuntu marketing channel, etc
[04:20] <Obsidian1723> cool.
[04:20] <Takyoji> Well, I even have administrative abilities over Spread Ubuntu
[04:20] <Obsidian1723> Very cool.
[04:21] <Takyoji> otherwise I take it that the FGTC website has been redone?
[04:21] <Obsidian1723> Yeah, fairbuilt is a drive.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723> yeah it has.
[04:22] <Obsidian1723> I'm involved with the place. Right now the space is getting setup, I've gathered some infrastructure hardware for it, etc.
[04:22] <Takyoji> I was looking into it previously; but noticed that it seemed a bit dead
[04:22] <Obsidian1723> Very active actually. The flooring just went in at the new space.
[04:22] <Takyoji> (this was like several months ago as a sidenote)
[04:23] <Obsidian1723> Right now, we have meetings around 2pm on Saturdays, with donations from 12pm-5pm...
[04:23] <Obsidian1723> Honestly, FGTC and the MN LoCO should connect and work together in some aspects.
[04:24] <Takyoji> Is there an XMPP channel for Free Geek?
[04:24] <Obsidian1723> XMPP??
[04:24] <Takyoji> Alternately known as Jabber
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: not to my knowledge.
[04:24] <Takyoji> I thought I came across one..
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Certainly unlikely for the Twin Cities branch
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> Obsidian1723: and you should go add FGTC to our "area groups" wiki spec page now plz.
[04:26] <Obsidian1723> We communicat via the mailing list. staff [at] lists.freegeektwincities.org
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> also, @ both Obsidian1723 and Takyoji, note the yellow ribbon group listed on that page - they also are looking for early-stage training stuff.
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Obsidian1723: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/Specs/AreaGroups
[04:32] <Obsidian1723> Launchpad isnt letting me login. grrrrr
[04:33] <_diablo> Obsidian1723, I think it's up...
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Obsidian1723: I always have to log in twice for it to work :S
[04:35] <Obsidian1723> yah Im in.. now how do I add it?
[04:38] <Obsidian1723> ?
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> clicketh the edit button, and it should be obvious from there.
[04:42] <mr_steve> howdy
[04:42] <_diablo> mr_steve, yo
[04:42] <mr_steve> Hey _diablo, how goes it?
[04:43] <_diablo> mr_steve, not bad. watching shawshank and moving files between externals
[04:44] <mr_steve> Fun. Math homework here :(
[04:44] <_diablo> fun.... which math?
[04:45] <mr_steve> I'm stuck in Math 70, it's introductory algebra
[04:45] <mr_steve> a 5-credit class and it doesn't even count towards my degree
[04:48] <mr_steve> Oh well tho. So I'm still thinking about doing an Ubuntu Hour this friday, or maybe next if I can't get my shit together fast enough
[04:48] <_diablo> mr_steve, that sucks
[04:48] <Obsidian1723> ADDED
[04:48] <_diablo> mr_steve, I think I'm going to be in missouri this friday, but I'll be back after
[04:49] <mr_steve> I might just try and connect with you about next friday then. Strength in numbers and all that
[04:50] <mr_steve> I gotta get some stuff together too, like some livecds and a couple flyers
[04:50] <_diablo> mr_steve, exactly. I can help with the livecds.
[04:50] <_diablo> I can also bring an extra laptop (maybe 2) that people can play with
[04:51] <_diablo> we just do the latest ubuntu (9.10) right? Not LTS?
[04:51] <mr_steve> I'd bring 9.10
[04:51] <_diablo> kk, agreed.
[04:51] <mr_steve> I'll probably bring my clunker of a laptop if i scout the place and there's power outlets. *nobody* touches my netbook :)
[04:51] <mr_steve> It's the new shiny
[04:52] <_diablo> haha, which model?
[04:52] <_diablo> (I'll bring a power strip or 2)
[04:52] <mr_steve> Aspire One AOD250
[04:52] <_diablo> ah, I have the Asus 1000HE
[04:52] <_diablo> from a few months ago
[04:52] <_diablo> still has 8 hour battery though, so that's nice
[04:52] <mr_steve> I likes it, except that it refuses to run at it's rated speed due to some BIOS bug
[04:52] <mr_steve> Yeah, I got this one especially for the huge battery
[04:52] <_diablo> ouch.
[04:53] <Takyoji> Hah, this is pretty interesting: http://www.michaelv.org/
[04:54] <mr_steve> Takyoji: it sure is creative
[04:54]  * Obsidian1723 Time for bed all.... night night
[04:55] <_diablo> nn
[04:55] <Takyoji> All in JS; found it on Ajaxian
[04:58] <mr_steve> Wow I'm starting to realize how hard it is to do homework with 3 computers in front of me
[04:59] <mr_steve> I would so much rather be tweaking, hacking, or generally breaking something than solving linear equations ;)
[05:00] <_diablo> mr_steve, yeah, that happens to me all the time
[05:01] <Takyoji> heh
[05:01] <Takyoji> I have a desktop and laptop in front of me; both Ubuntu 9.10
[05:02] <mr_steve> I got my laptop and netbook, and a ssh session into my misbehaving server. 9.10, 9.10UNR and 9.10 Server, respectively
[05:04] <_diablo> I have big laptop, middle laptop, and netbook. Debian 5 stable, fedora 12, crunchbang 9.04
[05:04] <_diablo> I don't think I'm allowed in this channel :(
[05:04] <mr_steve> Heh
[05:04] <mr_steve> I'm secretly a Gentoo user, shhh..
[05:05] <_diablo> I'm too worried about my sanity to do that
[05:05] <_diablo> I did slackware for a while.
[05:05] <mr_steve> I sacrificed my sanity to GCC compiles a long time ago
[05:05] <mr_steve> That's why I moved to Ubuntu
[05:05] <_diablo> lol
[05:05] <_diablo> brb
[05:05] <mr_steve> I still fiddle with gentoo here and there tho
[05:13] <_diablo> bak
[05:15] <mr_steve> I think I'm turning into a console junkie again. And Byobu kinda rocks.
[05:15] <_diablo> byobu?
[05:16]  * _diablo googles that sheet
[05:16] <mr_steve> It's a wrapper around GNU Screen
[05:16] <_diablo> mr_steve, ah. yeah, I don't use screen. I need to figure out how to SSH first :-/
[05:16]  * _diablo is embarrassed by his lack of networking knowledge
[05:17] <mr_steve> everyone's gotta start somewhere
[05:17] <mr_steve> if you start using SSH a lot, screen is handy. If you do everything in screen on the remote system, then it all stays running if you lose your connection for some reason
[05:18] <_diablo> mr_steve, yeah, that's what I've heard. Maybe you can teach me how to use SSH over ubuntu hour next week?
[05:19] <mr_steve> Absolutely.
[22:40] <Takyoji> We should plot more for world domination..
[22:42] <_diablo> I'll bring the lasers.