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hapikhi00:02
hapikhow can I edit xfce menu?00:02
charlie-tca3. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu00:04
charlie-tcaif you are sure you want to...00:04
hapikcharlie-tca: as to the problem with startx on user account - the solution was in .ICEauthority file00:06
charlie-tcahmmm?00:06
hapika few hours ago I could get xfce on root account but not on user account - I guess we were talking about that00:07
charlie-tcayeah, I remember that. I just don't know how to read .ICEauthority00:08
hapiki presume that somehow after changing notification area setup, /home/user/.ICEauthority file ownership was changed - when I removed it (I should just chown) I could log in as a user00:10
charlie-tcaOh, I got it00:10
charlie-tcaroot stole the file00:10
hapikI was just lucky, as my knowledge of linux in not advanced00:11
teknorunnerI like the new theme but how do I change application toolbars to have black backgrounds to match?00:28
bobberI like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?00:33
bobberI like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?00:39
charlie-tca!patience00:48
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.00:48
zv_oddwhar is the network manager???00:49
zv_oddwtf00:49
zv_oddwtf00:49
_blink_calm down00:50
charlie-tca!network-manager00:50
ubottunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager00:50
_blink_Put it in proper grammer so we know what the fuck ur saying00:50
_blink_lol00:54
_blink_!python01:34
ubottupython is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org01:34
subspiderdo guys know how to add path to RUNNING PATH02:20
subspiderfor scripts02:21
Linerahello04:25
LineraCould someone please tell me how to get the taskbar to reappear in the Xfce desktop?04:25
pleia2!panels04:29
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/04:29
pleia2might help04:29
Linerai said my taskbar04:30
pleia2the XubuntuPanels wiki page explains how to readd things that have disappeared from the panel :)04:31
Lineraits not panels, its my taskbars04:32
pleia2hmm, what exactly do you mean by taskbar?04:32
LineraThe things at the top and bottom of your desktop for apps, and a start menu like thing for shut down04:33
Linerathe bottom one shows little bars for each app opened04:34
Linerathats a task bar04:34
MyrttiPanels04:34
Myrtti:-)04:34
Lineraits called a taskbar04:34
pleia2in xubuntu they are called panels04:35
Linerait holds the tasks you can perform and are currently performing04:35
Linerahence why its called a taskbar04:35
MyrttiOh, you mean that specific applet04:35
pleia2the "task list"?04:35
pleia2it's something you can add to your panel, as described in the wiki page04:36
Linerataskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.04:37
pleia2right click on the panel, go to "add new items..." and from the list "task list" and whatever else you wish to add04:37
pleia2s/list/list, select04:37
Lineraall i need to know is how to make my "TASKBAR" to reappear04:38
pleia2the bars at the top and bottom of your screen with all the stuff in them, they disappeared and you want them back, right?04:38
Linerayes, the taskbar04:39
pleia2Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel04:39
Lineranot panel, the taskbar04:39
pleia2what you're describing is the panel04:39
Lineraits not a panel04:40
MyrttiThe "task bar" lives inside a panel in xubuntu. If you dont have panels, you cant have "task bar"04:43
MyrttiUnless you are using some other nondefault application to create such04:45
MyrttiLinera ^04:46
* likemindead thinks pleia2 got trolled...04:54
pleia2yeah, that possibility has now dawned on me :)04:55
likemindead;-)05:02
Awesome3000How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon05:05
Awesome3000How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon06:08
kcj1993can I have more than 2 workspaces?06:31
Awesome3000kcj1993: I have 4 so Yes06:31
Balsaqhyvä aamu erinomainen ilmaista koodikielellä -lta pohjoinen Eurooppa!07:06
Myrttimerh. google translate is really doing a horrible work07:08
MyrttiBalsaq: this channel is English, btw07:08
Balsaqi guess i cannot figure it out07:09
_Techie_Balsaq, long time no see07:45
Balsaqyo Techie where ya been?07:47
_Techie_gaming07:47
Balsaqfigures07:47
Balsaqwe need techs in here07:47
Balsaqi mean the more the better!07:48
_Techie_im am at your service07:48
_Techie_but first a question for someone with a bit of experience07:48
Balsaqcool...maybe ill run to the basement and fire up xub and look for issues :)07:48
_Techie_does anyone here have experience with modified xbox's (original), cromwell bios experience will help07:49
_Techie_dangit, why is there never anybody with around with the experience to help me07:53
Balsaqhmmm...because you are at the top of the food chain dude07:54
_Techie_as if07:54
_Techie_with my gear07:54
_Techie_that would be like being a millionare and not driving a ferrari07:55
Balsaqi wonder if there is a channel that is for xbox07:55
_Techie_probably07:55
Balsaqonly one person in it07:55
_Techie_but their mainly for straight up xbox modding07:55
Balsaqo07:55
Balsaqi bought my nephew the original xbox years ago07:56
_Techie_that chan is absolutely useless07:56
_Techie_i spit on ##xbox07:56
Balsaqmy 17 year old nephew has had his xbox for man years...would he know how to help you? he play games on it?07:57
Balsaqmany07:57
Balsaqor are you trying to do something..unusual on it?07:58
_Techie_very unusual07:59
_Techie_advanced modding to be specific07:59
_Techie_i think i might have just solved my problem08:04
Balsaqwhat is modding08:04
_Techie_modification08:04
Balsaqare you trying to make it into a computer?08:04
_Techie_it already is a computer08:05
_Techie_=)08:05
Balsaqhmmm how big is the processor08:05
Balsaqram and all08:05
_Techie_733mhz08:05
Balsaqwhoah08:05
_Techie_better than that old clunker of yours08:05
Balsaqthats more that 2 of my old timers08:05
Balsaqbut i have 5 2.4's  and a 1.7 too08:05
_Techie_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#Modding08:06
Balsaqmy nephew got the new xbox from his dad for christmas, ill have to ask him what he going to do with the original08:06
Balsaqso his should be 733 also08:07
Balsaqhow much ram08:07
_Techie_64mb08:11
Balsaqouch08:11
Balsaqsdram?08:11
_Techie_if hes inclined he can easily turn it into a media center08:11
_Techie_but he probably already know that08:11
_Techie_yeah SD08:11
_Techie_if he can pay postage id be more than happy to mod it for him for free and install a 40gig hard drive08:12
Balsaqyeah but postage to downunder would be massive08:12
_Techie_oh yeah08:13
_Techie_it will be08:13
_Techie_but its prolly less than a dead xbox08:13
Sysishame that you(i) can't get anything sensible from ps208:13
_Techie_ps2 was a mistake, and a stupid mistake on behalf of sony08:14
Sysithere is place for hd, but propably impossible to get cooling enough good to any proper hardware08:15
_Techie_not only did it look ancient next to the performace of the xbox, they didnt do any research and ended up keeping the same old uncompfortable controllers08:15
Sysiyeah, and why are those controllers still in ps308:21
Sysior almost same at least08:21
_Techie_because sony have thick skulls08:22
_Techie_atleast the PS3 is moddable though08:23
_Techie_night all10:03
emersonHow do I turn on my toolbar using the shell ?13:44
eXpl0i7emerson: you eman panel?13:45
ablomenxfce4-panel13:45
emersonthat's cool thanks man.13:46
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emersonjust one problem if I shut down the shell panel disappear as well ?13:47
Sysi!panels13:47
emersonso how do I solve that ?13:47
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/13:47
Sysilike that13:48
XfactI am thinking about to transfer my desktop from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, but my question is will I miss any spacial features (except eye-candy)?14:13
Xfactanyone can help with the issue?14:14
ablomenXfact, the only missing feature i can think of is the fact that thunar (xfce's filemanager) has no build in samba support14:15
Pres-Gasablomen and Xfact, mount.cifs works quite well, however.14:16
ablomenyep it does :)14:16
Pres-Gasablomen, have you used gigolo?14:16
Xfact well, I am just medium computer user, I use my pc just for fun and entertainment with some basic works (text and web surfing etc.) so I think I will not miss any spacial feature14:17
ablomenPres-Gas, no i don't swing that way</badJoke> ehm is that that graphical mount utility?14:17
Xfactso can you tell me the command to reach Xubuntu from Ubuntu?14:18
Pres-GasWe will all be lurking about if you need help anyway, Xfact.14:18
ablomenXfact, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will install xfce etc for you14:18
Pres-GasYou will have some remenant Ubu services still starting, Xfact.  So you will kind of have a hybrid system14:19
Xfact ablomen: will it change my presant Ubuntu (important) settings?14:19
ablomenXfact, nope, just install's xfce next to it14:20
ablomenPres-Gas, ah i see it now, no i have not, just use a few scripts myself14:20
Pres-Gasablomen, it looks like gigolo is using the gvfs backend...gvfs seems to be looking like the gtk+ agnostic fs backend, but don't quote me on that.14:54
ablomenPres-Gas, from what i have read about it, gvfs is evil, since it is fuse but then the gnome way, not using fuse.. but dont quote me on that either :)14:54
ablomen(so it still wont extend the filesystem, so only gvfs enabled apps can use it)14:55
retourwhere xfce saves settings for the audio mixer? Every time I reboot everything is muted15:25
* likemindead finds that annoying too.15:27
likemindeadSome info here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6856415:29
likemindeadMore here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76457615:30
retourlikemindead: thank you for good link. Although pity its a bug present for 3 yrs and nobody fixed it15:40
Eltornadohello15:56
Eltornadousing Xubuntu 9.10 can't find my Xorg.conf, where that file is located ?15:56
ablomenEltornado, it does not exists anymore15:57
ablomenyou can create it though, /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:57
Eltornadoablomen what do you mean create it manually ?15:57
ablomenyeah, it still reads it so you can add rules if you have to15:58
Sysi-write it yourself15:58
Eltornadoi see, you know the problem i got is that i have to set the resolution of the gdm screen login ad the desktop reslution so where can i make that change ?15:59
Eltornadoablomen dunno what to write on it15:59
Sysi-in settings menu isn't correct one available?15:59
Sysi-you can also try xrandr16:00
Eltornadosyns1- in the setting i can only change the desktop rscreen resolution not the gdm resolution16:00
Eltornadohow can i user xrandr  ?16:01
TheSheepxrandr --help16:03
TheSheep!xrandr16:03
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1216:03
EltornadoTheSheep, ok i'll try to do it16:05
Eltornadothanks16:05
Sysi-is that gdm's resolution _that_ necessary, i'd guess that fixing that is not very easy16:05
Sysi-ir well, it can be16:05
Sysi-*or16:05
Sysi-i use automatic login, never see gdm16:06
EltornadoSysi-, yes i have to change it there is a bug in gdm when the resolution of the gdm is different to desktop screen resolution it make a loop on the login16:07
Sysi-oh right16:07
Eltornadonow i have the gdm screen resolution set to 800x600 and desktop to 1024x76816:07
Sysi-ot worked on fedora :O16:08
Sysi-bad-writing day16:08
Eltornadoi changeddesktop res to 800x600 ,and everything work alright16:08
TheSheepif only I had a script that sets up all the session-related stuff that X needs, I'd get rid of gdm entirely16:08
TheSheepthings like ICE and seahorse16:09
Eltornadois there a way to generate the xorg.conf automaticlly ?16:17
Eltornado:)16:17
geniiEltornado: If you login to console only and stop display manager, you can do: sudo Xorg -configure      which dumps an xorg.conf in current directory. Then mv it into /etc/X11 and start display manager16:26
Eltornadogenii thanks man16:29
geniiEltornado: Yer welcome16:29
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becker_11hello does anyone know if Gnu IceCat is available on x/ubuntu ?20:29
cody-somervillebecker_11, Icecat? Do you mean icecast?20:30
likemindeadSurely there's a .deb or PPA.20:31
becker_11nope cody-somerville  Gnu IceCat is the free firefox Gnu browser20:31
likemindeadhttp://www.gnu.org/software/software.html20:31
cody-somervilleAh, okay.20:31
cody-somervilleNo, icecat doesn't appear to be in the repositories.20:32
becker_11thanks20:32
cody-somervilleNo problem.20:32
cody-somervilleIf you're interested in seeing it get added, you can file a packaging request on launchpad or in Debian's bug tracker system.20:32
MyrttiO20:33
becker_11oh cool20:33
becker_11How do I go about doing that cody-somerville ?20:33
MyrttiI've seen it being built to a ppa on launchpad20:33
* becker_11 searching20:33
Myrttijust was watching the buildqueue couple of hours ago20:33
becker_11Found it the only problem is20:35
becker_11You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:gnuzilla-team/ppa  to your system's Software Sources20:35
Myrttibecker_11: and you don't want to install from that?20:37
becker_11Myrtti, just a bit concerned that they are saying it's untrusted and unsupported20:38
Myrttibecker_11: well it's your judgement call. It's the easiest way of installing it. Of course you can download the source and compile and install it yourself20:39
becker_11Myrtti, yeah I'm checking it out now will decide in a while20:39
Sachse_SiechtumHello20:40
slow-motionn820:40
Sachse_SiechtumI got a problem with my HP PSC 1315.20:40
Sachse_Siechtumwhen I want to print a test page, it takes the paper half through, cartridge makes strange noises and stops...and I get an error message20:41
Sachse_Siechtumwell20:41
Sachse_Siechtumon the printer...20:42
Sachse_Siechtuma big "E"20:42
becker_11Myrtti, do you know if I need to remove firefox before installing icecat??20:42
Myrttibecker_11: have no idea, but I'd assume no20:43
becker_11Myrtti,  okay thanks20:43
charlie-tcaSachse_Siechtum: That would be a problem with the printer itself. Have you looked carefully to make sure there is not a paper jam in it that is causing it? Could be a small piece still stuck inside that is hard to see.20:47
Sachse_Siechtumno. I switched the printer on in Windows XP and he printed the test page20:48
Sachse_Siechtum(the printer was also on in Xubuntu)20:49
Sachse_Siechtumbrb20:51
becker_11Myrtti, just a heads up IceCat installs alongside firefox20:55
* becker_11 is away: Forgive me I'm off hacking, coding, tweak or shock horror actually sleeping!!21:05
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balsaqhowdy yall21:37
balsaqhow come sometimes when i make a quick launch link at the top after it restarts it sometimes changes from the left side at the top where i put it to the right side?21:38
balsaqspeaking of which, can i make a quick launch link for the desktop?21:38
TheSheepsure, I think it's fastest to just copy one from /usr/share/applications/21:40
TheSheepcopy it to ~/Desktop/21:40
balsaqTheSheep, how do i do that?21:40
TheSheeplet me see, open Thunar, navigate to /usr/share/applications, select one of the files in there and drag it to the desktop21:41
balsaqTheSheep, thanks, but i meant single click launch21:44
balsaqlike on the taskbar21:44
TheSheepno21:44
balsaqTheSheep, there's no way?21:44
TheSheepyou could install some additional application that does it, like gdesklets21:44
balsaqTheSheep, where do i get that?21:45
TheSheepfrom the repos21:45
TheSheep!info gdesklets21:45
ubottugdesklets (source: gdesklets): Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.36.1-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2809 kB, installed size 5804 kB21:45
TheSheeppersonally I don't like to have anything on the desktop, I put all icons on the panels21:46
balsaqTheSheep, would this slow down my system? i don't wanna defeat the purpose of using xfce lol21:46
TheSheepyes21:46
TheSheepit would21:46
balsaqTheSheep, forget it then lol thanks for your help21:46
greenhornHey there, can someone pastebin the default repo listing (sources.list) for Xubuntu 9.10?22:42
TheSheep!autosource22:43
TheSheephmm...22:43
TheSheep!sources22:43
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories22:44
greenhornTheSheep: Thanks, I don't have Xubuntu installed but was curious if it shipped with the same default repos as Ubuntu... appears so.22:46
homebrewciderhey there, I'm having a problem with my Xubuntu 9.10 install, my auto login doesn't work, and it takes me 5-6 manual login attempts before it lets me login. Is there a way to check what's going on and causing this problem?22:48
greenhornLaterz.22:49
Flea_Can someone help me with moving my notes from Tomboy to another application like Open Office without losing the formatting of Tomboy?22:49
TheSheephomebrewcider: check your .xsessionerrors22:53
TheSheepFlea_: you may try asking at #ubuntu, tomboy is installed there by default22:54
Flea_Thanks, I did.22:54
TheSheepFlea_: I think gnote can import tomboy notes and then export to html22:54
Flea_ok, thanks!22:54
allyourbassi cant seem to change the face for my user on the login screen23:06
allyourbassxubuntu 9.1023:06
allyourbassive tried putting a file named .face in my home23:06
allyourbasslinked to a file in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces23:07
allyourbasswhat am i doing wrong here ??23:07
charlie-tcaallyourbass: new grub2 in 9.1023:10
charlie-tcamakes things work different23:10
allyourbassyeah grub 223:10
allyourbasscould grub 2 also be part of my problem here ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/xubuntu-9.10-fresh-install-usb-automount-failure-fat-io-charset-iso-8859-1-not-found-784324/#post383830423:12
charlie-tcaI don't think they are related23:14
allyourbassi had high hopes for this install23:14
allyourbassstill better then my old crusty debian built from scratch nightmare23:15
evilbughow can i make vlc the default player for dvds?23:25
TheSheepevilbug: thunar->edit->preferences->advanced->configure->multimedia23:29
evilbugTheSheep: thank you.23:34

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