[00:02] <hapik> hi
[00:02] <hapik> how can I edit xfce menu?
[00:04] <charlie-tca> 3. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[00:04] <charlie-tca> if you are sure you want to...
[00:06] <hapik> charlie-tca: as to the problem with startx on user account - the solution was in .ICEauthority file
[00:06] <charlie-tca> hmmm?
[00:07] <hapik> a few hours ago I could get xfce on root account but not on user account - I guess we were talking about that
[00:08] <charlie-tca> yeah, I remember that. I just don't know how to read .ICEauthority
[00:10] <hapik> i presume that somehow after changing notification area setup, /home/user/.ICEauthority file ownership was changed - when I removed it (I should just chown) I could log in as a user
[00:10] <charlie-tca> Oh, I got it
[00:10] <charlie-tca> root stole the file
[00:11] <hapik> I was just lucky, as my knowledge of linux in not advanced
[00:28] <teknorunner> I like the new theme but how do I change application toolbars to have black backgrounds to match?
[00:33] <bobber> I like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?
[00:39] <bobber> I like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?
[00:48] <charlie-tca> !patience
[00:49] <zv_odd> whar is the network manager???
[00:49] <zv_odd> wtf
[00:49] <zv_odd> wtf
[00:50] <_blink_> calm down
[00:50] <charlie-tca> !network-manager
[00:50] <_blink_> Put it in proper grammer so we know what the fuck ur saying
[00:54] <_blink_> lol
[01:34] <_blink_> !python
[02:20] <subspider> do guys know how to add path to RUNNING PATH
[02:21] <subspider> for scripts
[04:25] <Linera> hello
[04:25] <Linera> Could someone please tell me how to get the taskbar to reappear in the Xfce desktop?
[04:29] <pleia2> !panels
[04:29] <pleia2> might help
[04:30] <Linera> i said my taskbar
[04:31] <pleia2> the XubuntuPanels wiki page explains how to readd things that have disappeared from the panel :)
[04:32] <Linera> its not panels, its my taskbars
[04:32] <pleia2> hmm, what exactly do you mean by taskbar?
[04:33] <Linera> The things at the top and bottom of your desktop for apps, and a start menu like thing for shut down
[04:34] <Linera> the bottom one shows little bars for each app opened
[04:34] <Linera> thats a task bar
[04:34] <Myrtti> Panels
[04:34] <Myrtti> :-)
[04:34] <Linera> its called a taskbar
[04:35] <pleia2> in xubuntu they are called panels
[04:35] <Linera> it holds the tasks you can perform and are currently performing
[04:35] <Linera> hence why its called a taskbar
[04:35] <Myrtti> Oh, you mean that specific applet
[04:35] <pleia2> the "task list"?
[04:36] <pleia2> it's something you can add to your panel, as described in the wiki page
[04:37] <Linera> taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.
[04:37] <pleia2> right click on the panel, go to "add new items..." and from the list "task list" and whatever else you wish to add
[04:37] <pleia2> s/list/list, select
[04:38] <Linera> all i need to know is how to make my "TASKBAR" to reappear
[04:38] <pleia2> the bars at the top and bottom of your screen with all the stuff in them, they disappeared and you want them back, right?
[04:39] <Linera> yes, the taskbar
[04:39] <pleia2> Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel
[04:39] <Linera> not panel, the taskbar
[04:39] <pleia2> what you're describing is the panel
[04:40] <Linera> its not a panel
[04:43] <Myrtti> The "task bar" lives inside a panel in xubuntu. If you dont have panels, you cant have "task bar"
[04:45] <Myrtti> Unless you are using some other nondefault application to create such
[04:46] <Myrtti> Linera ^
[04:54]  * likemindead thinks pleia2 got trolled...
[04:55] <pleia2> yeah, that possibility has now dawned on me :)
[05:02] <likemindead> ;-)
[05:05] <Awesome3000> How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon
[06:08] <Awesome3000> How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon
[06:31] <kcj1993> can I have more than 2 workspaces?
[06:31] <Awesome3000> kcj1993: I have 4 so Yes
[07:06] <Balsaq> hyvä aamu erinomainen ilmaista koodikielellä -lta pohjoinen Eurooppa!
[07:08] <Myrtti> merh. google translate is really doing a horrible work
[07:08] <Myrtti> Balsaq: this channel is English, btw
[07:09] <Balsaq> i guess i cannot figure it out
[07:45] <_Techie_> Balsaq, long time no see
[07:47] <Balsaq> yo Techie where ya been?
[07:47] <_Techie_> gaming
[07:47] <Balsaq> figures
[07:47] <Balsaq> we need techs in here
[07:48] <Balsaq> i mean the more the better!
[07:48] <_Techie_> im am at your service
[07:48] <_Techie_> but first a question for someone with a bit of experience
[07:48] <Balsaq> cool...maybe ill run to the basement and fire up xub and look for issues :)
[07:49] <_Techie_> does anyone here have experience with modified xbox's (original), cromwell bios experience will help
[07:53] <_Techie_> dangit, why is there never anybody with around with the experience to help me
[07:54] <Balsaq> hmmm...because you are at the top of the food chain dude
[07:54] <_Techie_> as if
[07:54] <_Techie_> with my gear
[07:55] <_Techie_> that would be like being a millionare and not driving a ferrari
[07:55] <Balsaq> i wonder if there is a channel that is for xbox
[07:55] <_Techie_> probably
[07:55] <Balsaq> only one person in it
[07:55] <_Techie_> but their mainly for straight up xbox modding
[07:55] <Balsaq> o
[07:56] <Balsaq> i bought my nephew the original xbox years ago
[07:56] <_Techie_> that chan is absolutely useless
[07:56] <_Techie_> i spit on ##xbox
[07:57] <Balsaq> my 17 year old nephew has had his xbox for man years...would he know how to help you? he play games on it?
[07:57] <Balsaq> many
[07:58] <Balsaq> or are you trying to do something..unusual on it?
[07:59] <_Techie_> very unusual
[07:59] <_Techie_> advanced modding to be specific
[08:04] <_Techie_> i think i might have just solved my problem
[08:04] <Balsaq> what is modding
[08:04] <_Techie_> modification
[08:04] <Balsaq> are you trying to make it into a computer?
[08:05] <_Techie_> it already is a computer
[08:05] <_Techie_> =)
[08:05] <Balsaq> hmmm how big is the processor
[08:05] <Balsaq> ram and all
[08:05] <_Techie_> 733mhz
[08:05] <Balsaq> whoah
[08:05] <_Techie_> better than that old clunker of yours
[08:05] <Balsaq> thats more that 2 of my old timers
[08:05] <Balsaq> but i have 5 2.4's  and a 1.7 too
[08:06] <_Techie_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#Modding
[08:06] <Balsaq> my nephew got the new xbox from his dad for christmas, ill have to ask him what he going to do with the original
[08:07] <Balsaq> so his should be 733 also
[08:07] <Balsaq> how much ram
[08:11] <_Techie_> 64mb
[08:11] <Balsaq> ouch
[08:11] <Balsaq> sdram?
[08:11] <_Techie_> if hes inclined he can easily turn it into a media center
[08:11] <_Techie_> but he probably already know that
[08:11] <_Techie_> yeah SD
[08:12] <_Techie_> if he can pay postage id be more than happy to mod it for him for free and install a 40gig hard drive
[08:12] <Balsaq> yeah but postage to downunder would be massive
[08:13] <_Techie_> oh yeah
[08:13] <_Techie_> it will be
[08:13] <_Techie_> but its prolly less than a dead xbox
[08:13] <Sysi> shame that you(i) can't get anything sensible from ps2
[08:14] <_Techie_> ps2 was a mistake, and a stupid mistake on behalf of sony
[08:15] <Sysi> there is place for hd, but propably impossible to get cooling enough good to any proper hardware
[08:15] <_Techie_> not only did it look ancient next to the performace of the xbox, they didnt do any research and ended up keeping the same old uncompfortable controllers
[08:21] <Sysi> yeah, and why are those controllers still in ps3
[08:21] <Sysi> or almost same at least
[08:22] <_Techie_> because sony have thick skulls
[08:23] <_Techie_> atleast the PS3 is moddable though
[10:03] <_Techie_> night all
[13:44] <emerson> How do I turn on my toolbar using the shell ?
[13:45] <eXpl0i7> emerson: you eman panel?
[13:45] <ablomen> xfce4-panel
[13:46] <emerson> that's cool thanks man.
[13:47] <emerson> just one problem if I shut down the shell panel disappear as well ?
[13:47] <Sysi> !panels
[13:47] <emerson> so how do I solve that ?
[13:48] <Sysi> like that
[14:13] <Xfact> I am thinking about to transfer my desktop from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, but my question is will I miss any spacial features (except eye-candy)?
[14:14] <Xfact> anyone can help with the issue?
[14:15] <ablomen> Xfact, the only missing feature i can think of is the fact that thunar (xfce's filemanager) has no build in samba support
[14:16] <Pres-Gas> ablomen and Xfact, mount.cifs works quite well, however.
[14:16] <ablomen> yep it does :)
[14:16] <Pres-Gas> ablomen, have you used gigolo?
[14:17] <Xfact>  well, I am just medium computer user, I use my pc just for fun and entertainment with some basic works (text and web surfing etc.) so I think I will not miss any spacial feature
[14:17] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, no i don't swing that way</badJoke> ehm is that that graphical mount utility?
[14:18] <Xfact> so can you tell me the command to reach Xubuntu from Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Pres-Gas> We will all be lurking about if you need help anyway, Xfact.
[14:18] <ablomen> Xfact, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will install xfce etc for you
[14:19] <Pres-Gas> You will have some remenant Ubu services still starting, Xfact.  So you will kind of have a hybrid system
[14:19] <Xfact>  ablomen: will it change my presant Ubuntu (important) settings?
[14:20] <ablomen> Xfact, nope, just install's xfce next to it
[14:20] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, ah i see it now, no i have not, just use a few scripts myself
[14:54] <Pres-Gas> ablomen, it looks like gigolo is using the gvfs backend...gvfs seems to be looking like the gtk+ agnostic fs backend, but don't quote me on that.
[14:54] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, from what i have read about it, gvfs is evil, since it is fuse but then the gnome way, not using fuse.. but dont quote me on that either :)
[14:55] <ablomen> (so it still wont extend the filesystem, so only gvfs enabled apps can use it)
[15:25] <retour> where xfce saves settings for the audio mixer? Every time I reboot everything is muted
[15:27]  * likemindead finds that annoying too.
[15:29] <likemindead> Some info here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/68564
[15:30] <likemindead> More here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764576
[15:40] <retour> likemindead: thank you for good link. Although pity its a bug present for 3 yrs and nobody fixed it
[15:56] <Eltornado> hello
[15:56] <Eltornado> using Xubuntu 9.10 can't find my Xorg.conf, where that file is located ?
[15:57] <ablomen> Eltornado, it does not exists anymore
[15:57] <ablomen> you can create it though, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:57] <Eltornado> ablomen what do you mean create it manually ?
[15:58] <ablomen> yeah, it still reads it so you can add rules if you have to
[15:58] <Sysi-> write it yourself
[15:59] <Eltornado> i see, you know the problem i got is that i have to set the resolution of the gdm screen login ad the desktop reslution so where can i make that change ?
[15:59] <Eltornado> ablomen dunno what to write on it
[15:59] <Sysi-> in settings menu isn't correct one available?
[16:00] <Sysi-> you can also try xrandr
[16:00] <Eltornado> syns1- in the setting i can only change the desktop rscreen resolution not the gdm resolution
[16:01] <Eltornado> how can i user xrandr  ?
[16:03] <TheSheep> xrandr --help
[16:03] <TheSheep> !xrandr
[16:05] <Eltornado> TheSheep, ok i'll try to do it
[16:05] <Eltornado> thanks
[16:05] <Sysi-> is that gdm's resolution _that_ necessary, i'd guess that fixing that is not very easy
[16:05] <Sysi-> ir well, it can be
[16:05] <Sysi-> *or
[16:06] <Sysi-> i use automatic login, never see gdm
[16:07] <Eltornado> Sysi-, yes i have to change it there is a bug in gdm when the resolution of the gdm is different to desktop screen resolution it make a loop on the login
[16:07] <Sysi-> oh right
[16:07] <Eltornado> now i have the gdm screen resolution set to 800x600 and desktop to 1024x768
[16:08] <Sysi-> ot worked on fedora :O
[16:08] <Sysi-> bad-writing day
[16:08] <Eltornado> i changeddesktop res to 800x600 ,and everything work alright
[16:08] <TheSheep> if only I had a script that sets up all the session-related stuff that X needs, I'd get rid of gdm entirely
[16:09] <TheSheep> things like ICE and seahorse
[16:17] <Eltornado> is there a way to generate the xorg.conf automaticlly ?
[16:17] <Eltornado> :)
[16:26] <genii> Eltornado: If you login to console only and stop display manager, you can do: sudo Xorg -configure      which dumps an xorg.conf in current directory. Then mv it into /etc/X11 and start display manager
[16:29] <Eltornado> genii thanks man
[16:29] <genii> Eltornado: Yer welcome
[19:33] <slow-motion> hi
[20:29] <becker_11> hello does anyone know if Gnu IceCat is available on x/ubuntu ?
[20:30] <cody-somerville> becker_11, Icecat? Do you mean icecast?
[20:31] <likemindead> Surely there's a .deb or PPA.
[20:31] <becker_11> nope cody-somerville  Gnu IceCat is the free firefox Gnu browser
[20:31] <likemindead> http://www.gnu.org/software/software.html
[20:31] <cody-somerville> Ah, okay.
[20:32] <cody-somerville> No, icecat doesn't appear to be in the repositories.
[20:32] <becker_11> thanks
[20:32] <cody-somerville> No problem.
[20:32] <cody-somerville> If you're interested in seeing it get added, you can file a packaging request on launchpad or in Debian's bug tracker system.
[20:33] <Myrtti> O
[20:33] <becker_11> oh cool
[20:33] <becker_11> How do I go about doing that cody-somerville ?
[20:33] <Myrtti> I've seen it being built to a ppa on launchpad
[20:33]  * becker_11 searching
[20:33] <Myrtti> just was watching the buildqueue couple of hours ago
[20:35] <becker_11> Found it the only problem is
[20:35] <becker_11> You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:gnuzilla-team/ppa  to your system's Software Sources
[20:37] <Myrtti> becker_11: and you don't want to install from that?
[20:38] <becker_11> Myrtti, just a bit concerned that they are saying it's untrusted and unsupported
[20:39] <Myrtti> becker_11: well it's your judgement call. It's the easiest way of installing it. Of course you can download the source and compile and install it yourself
[20:39] <becker_11> Myrtti, yeah I'm checking it out now will decide in a while
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello
[20:40] <slow-motion> n8
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> I got a problem with my HP PSC 1315.
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I want to print a test page, it takes the paper half through, cartridge makes strange noises and stops...and I get an error message
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> well
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> on the printer...
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> a big "E"
[20:42] <becker_11> Myrtti, do you know if I need to remove firefox before installing icecat??
[20:43] <Myrtti> becker_11: have no idea, but I'd assume no
[20:43] <becker_11> Myrtti,  okay thanks
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Sachse_Siechtum: That would be a problem with the printer itself. Have you looked carefully to make sure there is not a paper jam in it that is causing it? Could be a small piece still stuck inside that is hard to see.
[20:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> no. I switched the printer on in Windows XP and he printed the test page
[20:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> (the printer was also on in Xubuntu)
[20:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> brb
[20:55] <becker_11> Myrtti, just a heads up IceCat installs alongside firefox
[21:05]  * becker_11 is away: Forgive me I'm off hacking, coding, tweak or shock horror actually sleeping!!
[21:37] <balsaq> howdy yall
[21:38] <balsaq> how come sometimes when i make a quick launch link at the top after it restarts it sometimes changes from the left side at the top where i put it to the right side?
[21:38] <balsaq> speaking of which, can i make a quick launch link for the desktop?
[21:40] <TheSheep> sure, I think it's fastest to just copy one from /usr/share/applications/
[21:40] <TheSheep> copy it to ~/Desktop/
[21:40] <balsaq> TheSheep, how do i do that?
[21:41] <TheSheep> let me see, open Thunar, navigate to /usr/share/applications, select one of the files in there and drag it to the desktop
[21:44] <balsaq> TheSheep, thanks, but i meant single click launch
[21:44] <balsaq> like on the taskbar
[21:44] <TheSheep> no
[21:44] <balsaq> TheSheep, there's no way?
[21:44] <TheSheep> you could install some additional application that does it, like gdesklets
[21:45] <balsaq> TheSheep, where do i get that?
[21:45] <TheSheep> from the repos
[21:45] <TheSheep> !info gdesklets
[21:46] <TheSheep> personally I don't like to have anything on the desktop, I put all icons on the panels
[21:46] <balsaq> TheSheep, would this slow down my system? i don't wanna defeat the purpose of using xfce lol
[21:46] <TheSheep> yes
[21:46] <TheSheep> it would
[21:46] <balsaq> TheSheep, forget it then lol thanks for your help
[22:42] <greenhorn> Hey there, can someone pastebin the default repo listing (sources.list) for Xubuntu 9.10?
[22:43] <TheSheep> !autosource
[22:43] <TheSheep> hmm...
[22:43] <TheSheep> !sources
[22:46] <greenhorn> TheSheep: Thanks, I don't have Xubuntu installed but was curious if it shipped with the same default repos as Ubuntu... appears so.
[22:48] <homebrewcider> hey there, I'm having a problem with my Xubuntu 9.10 install, my auto login doesn't work, and it takes me 5-6 manual login attempts before it lets me login. Is there a way to check what's going on and causing this problem?
[22:49] <greenhorn> Laterz.
[22:49] <Flea_> Can someone help me with moving my notes from Tomboy to another application like Open Office without losing the formatting of Tomboy?
[22:53] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: check your .xsessionerrors
[22:54] <TheSheep> Flea_: you may try asking at #ubuntu, tomboy is installed there by default
[22:54] <Flea_> Thanks, I did.
[22:54] <TheSheep> Flea_: I think gnote can import tomboy notes and then export to html
[22:54] <Flea_> ok, thanks!
[23:06] <allyourbass> i cant seem to change the face for my user on the login screen
[23:06] <allyourbass> xubuntu 9.10
[23:06] <allyourbass> ive tried putting a file named .face in my home
[23:07] <allyourbass> linked to a file in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces
[23:07] <allyourbass> what am i doing wrong here ??
[23:10] <charlie-tca> allyourbass: new grub2 in 9.10
[23:10] <charlie-tca> makes things work different
[23:10] <allyourbass> yeah grub 2
[23:12] <allyourbass> could grub 2 also be part of my problem here ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/xubuntu-9.10-fresh-install-usb-automount-failure-fat-io-charset-iso-8859-1-not-found-784324/#post3838304
[23:14] <charlie-tca> I don't think they are related
[23:14] <allyourbass> i had high hopes for this install
[23:15] <allyourbass> still better then my old crusty debian built from scratch nightmare
[23:25] <evilbug> how can i make vlc the default player for dvds?
[23:29] <TheSheep> evilbug: thunar->edit->preferences->advanced->configure->multimedia
[23:34] <evilbug> TheSheep: thank you.