| blueyed | just in case you have not noticed yet: firefox-qt: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/ | 00:35 |
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| Riddell | 6th time lucky? | 00:40 |
| blueyed | old news, popped up on reddit.. http://reddit.com/r/linux/comments/atuyp/mozilla_qt_port_is_available_for_testing/ | 00:40 |
| jepong | hello.. im using KDE SC 4.4 RC2 just want to confirm if you also cant add the battery and device widget to the system tray | 01:09 |
| jepong | thanks | 01:09 |
| Lex79 | jepong: plasma crash? | 01:10 |
| jepong | i think so... i did it so many times this morning and nothing happens | 01:11 |
| jepong | works fine with RC1 | 01:11 |
| Lex79 | it's a known issue, I think we have to wait RC3 | 01:11 |
| Lex79 | to fix that | 01:12 |
| jepong | i see... is there a launchpad link i can subscribe to? | 01:12 |
| jepong | ok... | 01:12 |
| Lex79 | jepong: no for what I know, you can search here maybe https://bugs.kde.org/ | 01:13 |
| Lex79 | no problem | 01:13 |
| jepong | thanks | 01:13 |
| jjesse_ | argh plasma-desktop crashed again and now i don't know the progress of the file copy i'm running | 01:35 |
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| nixternal | jjesse: that's because we incorporated the element of surprise, kubuntu_03_element_of_surprise.diff | 01:41 |
| jjesse | nixternal: that's awesome thanks for doing so | 01:41 |
| jjesse | i get so many stinkin plamsa-desktop crashes it isn't funny | 01:41 |
| Lex79 | lol | 01:41 |
| jjesse | thinkin about reloading back to base 9.10 + updates, none of this kde beta/rc stuff | 01:42 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: latest kubuntu-firefox-installer depends on an unreleased version of kdesudo :s | 01:45 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I uploaded that | 01:46 |
| Riddell | although I didn't change that bit | 01:46 |
| JontheEchidna | hum, not showing up @ lp yet | 01:46 |
| Lex79 | ryanakca: bug 513049 | 01:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513049 in bangarang "Invalid desktop file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513049 | 01:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Oooo... They're showing the season 5 finale of Lost tonight... | 01:54 |
| Lex79 | yeah | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I might go watch that in a bit... | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | Season 6 starts next week :) | 01:55 |
| Lex79 | same here, season 5 finale tonight and 10 February season 6 | 01:56 |
| Lex79 | in US 2 February I think | 01:56 |
| * JontheEchidna goes off to watch TV | 01:58 | |
| shtylman | Riddell: k. I will take a look | 03:35 |
| shtylman | ScottK, Riddell: im gonna change my kdm theme to use the new wallpaper... and then post that to the kubuntu-devel list.. think there is a chance we will use that as default? I would like to avoid using the current one with the old air wallpaper and weird center piece :) | 03:40 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: ^ | 03:40 |
| JontheEchidna | shtylman: upstream changed the default to the new Ethias paper, but I think I liked the screenshots of yours you posted | 04:05 |
| shtylman | the screenshots of the kdm center part? | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 04:06 |
| shtylman | k | 04:06 |
| shtylman | I will rework it with the new wallpaper | 04:07 |
| shtylman | and post that | 04:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't see anything stopping it from being default for Kubuntu, especially since upstream would have accepted it aside from artwork freeze | 04:07 |
| shtylman | right | 04:07 |
| shtylman | cool | 04:07 |
| JontheEchidna | that's just my opinion, but I think the others would agree | 04:07 |
| shtylman | :) | 04:08 |
| shtylman | the pacakge with the splash screen is broken... it doesn't have the right wallpapers for the different resolutions | 04:47 |
| ScottK | shtylman: We definitely need something other than what we have now, so I think the field is open. | 04:53 |
| maryellen | can someone help me with a Thunderbird problem | 05:29 |
| ScottK | maryellen: This isn't a support channel. #ubuntu is probably the best channel for that. | 05:29 |
| maryellen | ok, tks.. | 05:30 |
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| Quintasan | \o | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: I'm going to change license and upload and if we have space I will request a MIR, is that okay? | 09:54 |
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| pgquiles__ | will qt 4.6.1 be availabe from kubuntu-ppa in the near future? :-? (sorry if this is duplicated, I think I was disconnected when I sent this before but I might have been on-line as well) | 11:01 |
| Riddell | pgquiles__: we hope so, we're waiting on an update to phonon | 11:02 |
| pgquiles__ | Riddell: what do you mean? you still need to adapt sandsmark's patch? or you are waiting for Nokia to update phonon? (if the former, I've already done it) | 11:03 |
| pgquiles__ | although not tested yet | 11:03 |
| Riddell | former | 11:06 |
| tseliot | Riddell: is pykde ready or shall I wait? | 11:11 |
| tseliot | (I'm not complaining, just asking) | 11:11 |
| Riddell | tseliot: it's in New, let me kick it out | 11:12 |
| tseliot | ok | 11:12 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: have they slipped anything defaming into this? http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/interview-riddell-2.linmag.text | 11:17 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: hehe i'll have a look | 11:17 |
| ryanakca | Lex79: Thanks, I'll take a look at it when I get back from my exam | 11:28 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: looks good to me | 11:30 |
| pgquiles__ | Riddell: http://www.elpauer.org/tmp/kubuntu_07_phonon_4.3.80.diff - updated for 4.6.1 but untested yet (I'm building my packages for 4.6.1 now, packaging adapted and updated from 4.6.0-1ubuntu6) | 11:40 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: yay, thanks | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Lex79: ^^ | 11:48 |
| NCommander | Riddell, I'm going to bring sip4, python-qt* up to date (sorry I've been kinda slacking on this point), and merge all the Ubuntu changes into Debian | 11:51 |
| Riddell | NCommander: up to date where? they are up to date in ubuntu (except for build failure on arm) | 11:55 |
| NCommander | Riddell, in Debian so we can sync the packages | 11:55 |
| * NCommander is a co-maintainer | 11:55 | |
| Riddell | right, lovely | 11:55 |
| Riddell | NCommander: the question is what to do with python-qt3 | 11:56 |
| Riddell | the new sip/pyqt4 gets rid of the need for the old configure patches which made builddir!=srcdir work | 11:56 |
| Riddell | but pyqt3 hasn't been updated by upstream | 11:56 |
| Riddell | so it needs its configure script rewritten for the new SIP way of doing builddir!=srcdir, or we just scrap the builddir!=srcdir, or we just scrap pyqt3 | 11:59 |
| Riddell | but apparantly we need it for mnemosyne | 11:59 |
| NCommander | Riddell, :-/ | 12:02 |
| jussi01 | oooh, mnemosyne, that was one of the first packages I packaged! :D | 12:07 |
| jussi01 | Although I think it got overwritten by a debian one the release after... | 12:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: yeah, that'll be fine | 12:20 |
| JontheEchidna | see y'all later | 12:21 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: kubuntu-firefox-installer needs this new option you added to kdesudo? can you remember if kdesudo is ready for release/upload ? | 14:13 |
| marcosRz | guys | 14:44 |
| marcosRz | I was thinking about is it hard to make a qt version of synaptic? | 14:44 |
| Riddell | yes | 14:44 |
| marcosRz | If its hard | 14:46 |
| marcosRz | ? | 14:46 |
| marcosRz | I mean synaptic is so complete | 14:46 |
| NCommander | Riddell, how different is the SIP4 build system now that we can drop the old multibuild hack | 14:46 |
| Riddell | NCommander: not completely different but method and variable names aren't the same as our patch | 14:48 |
| NCommander | Riddell, but why do we need to change python-qt3? | 14:49 |
| * NCommander feels a bit lost | 14:49 | |
| NCommander | I know we need to upload it to build against the new sip4 API | 14:49 |
| daskreech | marcosRz: Hard isn't impossible so if you want to shoot at it please go ahead | 14:51 |
| marcosRz | hm | 14:51 |
| Riddell | NCommander: we patched python-qt3 to make it build with builddir!=srcdir. now SIP is able to do builddir!=srcdir but using different variables and function than we had. so the configure file needs to be rewritten for the new builddir!=srcdir stuff | 14:52 |
| NCommander | Riddell, but thats just SIP's build system, python-qt3 shouldn't care at all about that functionality | 14:53 |
| Riddell | NCommander: python-qt3's configure script uses sipconfig.py | 14:53 |
| NCommander | ugh | 14:53 |
| NCommander | ow | 14:53 |
| NCommander | ok | 14:53 |
| NCommander | Now I see the problem | 14:54 |
| * NCommander shivers | 14:54 | |
| NCommander | Riddell, I'll fix it | 14:54 |
| Riddell | NCommander: well remember that we don't care about python-qt3 much and it might be easier just to drop the builddir!=srcdir idea and just build it in place | 14:54 |
| NCommander | Riddell, you can't safely do that due to the ABI issues building against different versions of python | 14:56 |
| Riddell | we only build for one version of python | 14:57 |
| NCommander | Riddell, in Ubuntu. | 14:57 |
| yuriy_work | :O does this yahoo! thing apply to kubuntu? | 15:12 |
| jussi01 | yuriy_work: I was about to ask same thing... | 15:21 |
| jussi01 | also, anyone know the last time an image was installable for lucid? seems oversized atm (amd64) and has been for the last few days. do I need to grab alpha2 or is there more recent? | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I asked Tonio_ to pull a release right after I introduced the function | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | actually, didn't I already upload that beast? | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | or maybe I postponed the kfi upload because of the missing kdesudo upload | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | dantti: lol, don't question my sh skills :P | 15:53 |
| aleite | hello guys, just compiled kde trunk on ubuntu karmic.. but there is no sound.. any clues? | 15:53 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: looks like there was misscomprehension :) | 15:53 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I though you'd do it | 15:53 |
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| dantti | apachelogger: ? | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: well, I can do the ubuntu part, but I can't do new upstream releases ;) | 15:53 |
| dantti | apachelogger: ah that was about the patch? | 15:54 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: kk let's do it :) | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | dantti: re: <dantti> apachelogger: hmm reviewing that patch seems that there is on open IF and no FI to close it... | 15:54 |
| dantti | yup I said nevermind :P | 15:54 |
| aleite | found pulseaudio-server but.. no sound.. strange | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: might I mention that my staging PPA holds a networkmanager package that actually works and should be published somewhere? ...for karmic that is | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | made it some time ago based upon what was in suse at the time | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | dantti: yeah, and now I tell you to never ever question my shelling again :P | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: got a fix for that bangarang desktop file issue yet? | 15:56 |
| Quintasan | hmmm, printer applet is now broken :/ | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | that is what we get for writing stuff in scripting languages :P | 16:02 |
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| Tonio_ | apachelogger: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=72106 | 16:06 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: sorry for the delay | 16:06 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: want me to upload the package too or will you do it ? | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: can do in a bit | 16:07 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I can do now :) doing it | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: thanks :) | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | omg, where is scott? | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: bug 513329 pretty please | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513329 in karmic-backports "Please backport kmess 2.0.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513329 | 16:08 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, will do | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: thanks :) | 16:10 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: uploaded | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ^ | 16:10 |
| * apachelogger hands Tonio_ a cookie :) | 16:10 | |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: you should slap me instead :) I should have done that a month and a half ago ! | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: doesnt really make a difference, other than that feature is super hot and awesome and people where not able to use it for 1.5m ;) | 16:12 |
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| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ;) | 16:13 |
| daskreech | nixternal: lol at your Bing comments | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KEmu?content=116980 | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | scary UI | 16:22 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 16:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: hey apachelogger :) | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | ahoy | 16:22 |
| _Groo_ | guys what is the proper channel for networkmanager bugs? | 16:22 |
| _Groo_ | btw i compiled kdebindings for 4.4 rc2 and its working fine, BUT the printer applet is still broken :( | 16:23 |
| Lex79 | and printer config in system settings works? | 16:28 |
| Riddell | printer-applet works fine here, it's the config which needs some love | 16:29 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: btw, we don't need a refreshed patch for Phonon, but we need an updated patch. Sandsmark done, but we have still problem to build kdebase-runtime against that. | 16:30 |
| Lex79 | since Phonon headers include in qt 4.6.1 is changed | 16:31 |
| danimo_ | moin | 16:31 |
| Lex79 | we are working on that, hope is ready for RC3 | 16:31 |
| Riddell | roar | 16:31 |
| Riddell | why do phonon headers change with every single release | 16:32 |
| Riddell | don't these Qt people know about API compatibility? | 16:32 |
| Riddell | roar | 16:32 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: from changes-4.6.1 in the tarball http://pastebin.ca/1768131 | 16:33 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: i was talking about the systemsettings printer config :) | 16:33 |
| Lex79 | thiago mailed about that btw | 16:33 |
| _Groo_ | ok, what is the channel of the networkmanager guys? | 16:34 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: retry this https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1 | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: why horrible? try using qtemu -_- | 16:41 |
| Riddell | retried | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I did | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | scary UI | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | they all have them scary UIs | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | agateau should offer training courses on sensible UI design :P | 16:42 |
| * agateau is flattered :) | 16:43 | |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I did find -iname *.cpp -exec grep DefaultInputMethod {} \; in Qt source and -> http://pastebin.com/f25c5c3e8 which line it would be? | 16:44 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: all of them I'd guess | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: but only one contains XIM :P | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | now how to find the file with this line :S | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: why not grep only? | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | if in doubt you could use ack-grep, that beast should also be able to only grep cpp files | 17:09 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: qt source has shitload of sub dirs, it would be a pita to manually go through all of them :P | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | grep 'foo' ./*? | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | can is able to do recursive search IIRC | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | at least ack-grep is :P | 17:11 |
| Quintasan | hurr durr | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | freeflying: konsole uses utf8 by default?! | 18:17 |
| Riddell | konsole uses your system locale, which is utf8 for anything installed this millenium (so not my IRC client) | 18:20 |
| \sh | Riddell: you use ircII? ;) | 18:23 |
| Riddell | did used to, irssi adds pretty colours though | 18:23 |
| \sh | oh well, old ircII times...remarkable ;) | 18:24 |
| vikram_ | join #ubuntu-hardened | 18:34 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping | 19:15 |
| Riddell | new packagekit seems to work | 19:57 |
| Riddell | hugs to dantti | 19:57 |
| Riddell | although that install dialogue is still horribly busy | 19:58 |
| dantti | Riddell: what was the problem? | 19:58 |
| Riddell | dantti: with packagekit? just that nobody had packaged it yet | 19:58 |
| dantti | ah :P | 19:58 |
| dantti | which version? | 19:58 |
| Riddell | 0.5.6 packagekit, 0.5.4 kpackagekit | 19:59 |
| dantti | hmm nice :) | 19:59 |
| dantti | hopefully 0.6 will have debconf support | 19:59 |
| dantti | actually I can add it in 0.5 right now but I'm too lazy :P I'll wait for the upstream solution.. | 20:00 |
| Riddell | upstream knows best | 20:00 |
| Riddell | (usually) | 20:00 |
| dantti | Riddell: btw I'm working on a new printer monitor (as seems you haven't touched too much the code lately) and I can't code python.. | 20:00 |
| dantti | It already monitors the printing jobs | 20:01 |
| Riddell | dantti: oh? what's needing done that isn't in the current one? | 20:01 |
| Riddell | (I can think of a few things) | 20:01 |
| dantti | Riddell: well first it doesnt work on debian (right now) | 20:01 |
| dantti | then on a kubuntu pc of a fellow of mine it doesn't show active jobs | 20:02 |
| Riddell | different cups version? | 20:02 |
| dantti | no kcm crash | 20:02 |
| Riddell | oh that's system-config-printer-kde then, not the monitor | 20:03 |
| dantti | yep, I can't see a monitor.. | 20:03 |
| Riddell | printer-applet ? | 20:03 |
| dantti | if that's the executable name I don't have it | 20:04 |
| Riddell | it's in kdeutils | 20:04 |
| dhillon-v10 | Riddell: hi there :) I am trying to write a patch for this pretty easy bug (as you suggested, I should start with bugzilla) are there any coding guidelines that i should follow? can you link to it, thanks. | 20:05 |
| dantti | Riddell: I'll take a look but I really don't get why copying the gnome code is good since it's so easy to use libcups directly... | 20:07 |
| dantti | Riddell: when I get something working (better than now) I'll show you, maybe you decide py is evil :P just kidding | 20:08 |
| Riddell | it's not ideal for printer-applet, adds to startup time | 20:09 |
| Riddell | dhillon-v10: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/pages/QtCodingStyle | 20:10 |
| dantti | Riddell: hmm so you might like what I'm writing... | 20:10 |
| dantti | it will load a small kded at startup, and when a job is detected it starts the systray icon (pretty much what KPk does), this part is done, now I'm working on the systray icon.. | 20:11 |
| dhillon-v10 | Riddell: thanks for the link | 20:12 |
| dhillon-v10 | Riddell: I'll get back to you when I have a patch written down, and then you can review it :) | 20:13 |
| neversfelde | mhh, seems that the koffice package for Karmic was not updated in the Backports PPA? | 20:17 |
| neversfelde | do we want 2.1.1 for Karmic? | 20:17 |
| Riddell | we don't have it for lucid yet | 20:18 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: a backport would be difficult, because we would have to add *-kde4 again. So why not updating the existing package in the PPA? | 20:19 |
| Riddell | yes that's probably the best way | 20:20 |
| neversfelde | I#ll build it and upload to staging, so we can decide what to do after it is in lucid | 20:20 |
| Riddell | dantti: new {k,gnome,}packagekit uploaded, here's the patches we apply to kpackagekit http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kpackagekit/ | 20:28 |
| Riddell | just for your information, although I think kubuntu_04_tray_icon.patch should go upstream | 20:29 |
| Lex79 | I fixed l10n-sr in staging with new tar | 20:41 |
| Riddell | thanks Lex79 | 20:45 |
| Lex79 | np | 20:45 |
| Riddell | Lex79: ready for me to copy over? | 20:45 |
| Lex79 | yep | 20:45 |
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| ryanakca | apachelogger: Yes, I have a fix, see bug 513488 | 21:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 513488 in bangarang "Please sync bangarang 1.0-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513488 | 21:54 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: retry this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaccessibility/4:4.3.5-0ubuntu1~karmic1/+build/1469570 | 21:58 |
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| Riddell | done | 22:06 |
| Lex79 | good | 22:06 |
| gremu | hi guys :) | 22:07 |
| gremu | I have a problem with phonon in Kubuntu 9.10. Its like this: | 22:26 |
| gremu | I can go to the media settings in systemsettings and configure phonon as usually | 22:26 |
| gremu | Every device is found an displayed, but if i try to play the test-sound for my prefered sound device I can hear no sound. | 22:27 |
| gremu | Sound in general works (like playing sound with VLC or aplay) but everything which uses phonon does not work | 22:28 |
| gremu | (like system sounds or amarok) | 22:28 |
| neversfelde | gremu: this is not really a support channel, probably best to ask in #kubuntu | 22:28 |
| gremu | I'm using XINE backend with KDE 4.4 RC 2 | 22:28 |
| gremu | hm, ah ok ... amarok guys pointed me here | 22:28 |
| gremu | Hm, I think it has nothing todo with configuration ... maybe its a bug and someone already knows about it or not. | 22:33 |
| gremu | Because XINE does not work (plays no sound but also displays no error message) but Gstreamer backend works | 22:34 |
| gremu | (sound works for any kde application) | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: sweet | 22:50 |
| Mamarok | gremu: who pointed you here? I certainly didn't | 22:51 |
| gremu | Mamarok: markey | 22:56 |
| gremu | at 15:08 (UTC) | 22:56 |
| markey | hm? | 22:59 |
| Mamarok | markey: you shouldn't point people here for support, support is in #kubuntu | 23:01 |
| gremu | Sorry… I don't want to blame anyone | 23:03 |
| Mamarok | gremu: just so he knows :) | 23:03 |
| Mamarok | no need to be sorry | 23:03 |
| gremu | Ok .. then I will try in #kubuntu later :) | 23:04 |
| gremu | Thanks anyway | 23:04 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: python-kde4-dbg is dropped from the new version of kdebindings? | 23:07 |
| Riddell | Lex79: should be in kdebindings-dbg | 23:08 |
| Riddell | tried Shaman, it crashes, and needs UI polish | 23:09 |
| * Riddell wonders why scottk is in #ubuntu-women but not in here | 23:10 | |
| Lex79 | LoooooL | 23:10 |
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| neversfelde | rofl | 23:12 |
| gorgonizer | Hello, I have KDE 4.4 RC2 installed, yet my system wants to install kdebase-4.3.5.. is this correct, or is the kdebase metapackage missing for 4.3.95? | 23:47 |
| gorgonizer | (I do realise that this is not a support channel) | 23:50 |
| neversfelde | please show the whole error message | 23:51 |
| neversfelde | and yes, would be better to ask in #kubuntu | 23:51 |
| gorgonizer | neversfelde: there is no error message technically, I just did an update, and the kdebase metapakage wanted to update to 4.3.5, ye tthe system is running 4.3.95. I am assuming that kdebase metapackage (which was preesent in RC1) hasn't been made for 4.3.95 | 23:54 |
| gorgonizer | (if that makes sense), though will ask in the main support channel.. | 23:54 |
| neversfelde | k | 23:55 |
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