[00:01] <sithlord48> claydoh, my job makes me work when they need me to other wise im just at the shop on the forum..
[00:01] <sithlord48> perhaps one day i might have as many posts as mr. dibl but thats a lot.. lol
[00:04] <claydoh> sithlord48: it has taken me years to get to as many posts as I have :) and i don't have many
[00:08] <sithlord48> yea i know i just started getting more cause i am on all day, and if i can help i try too
[00:10] <claydoh> sithlord48: you do a good job, too :) many thanks for that
[00:11] <sithlord48> claydoy, /bow thank you
[00:22] <Alarm> my laptops (monitor i guess not vga) coes with a resolution 1240x800 (max) ,is it possible to add a higher resolution somewhere ?
[00:24]  * dasen is away: Ausente por agora
[00:28] <dave55> one question about the netbook version
[00:28] <dave55> can top menu bar be showing all the time? thx
[00:39] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[00:40] <wizkoder> the microblogging plasmoid asks for my password every 5 minutes. even if I say remember password. Can I prevent that?
[00:40] <maco> give it the right password next time?
[00:43] <Izinucs> Is there a way to put a program shortcut on a panel.
[00:48] <aperson> Izinucs, yep, just add a launcher
[00:48] <Izinucs> aperson: as a widgit?
[00:48] <aperson> Izinucs, a widget, yes
[00:49] <Izinucs> aperson: that would be Lancelot?
[00:49] <wizkoder> maco: I entered my email and password like on the page. Does the plasmoid have problems with that? Mean do I have to use the username?
[00:49] <maco> yeah use the username
[00:49] <aperson> Izinucs, no, just drag an app from your menu
[00:50] <Izinucs> aperson: ah so easy I missed it.. :/
[00:50] <Izinucs> aperson: I was expecting something more like.. right mouse click .. add launcher.. enter program name and find appropriate Icon .. etc etc etc
[00:51] <aperson> Izinucs, there is a widget for launchers (everything is a widget, btw)
[00:51] <aperson> lancelot is not that though
[00:51] <aperson> I'd take some time and go through your available widgets and see what you can add :)
[00:52] <Izinucs> k.. got 'em all configured.. fast and easy.. thanks aperson.  I've looked at the widgets.. some are easy to know what they are .. others are a bit more mysterious.. new to kde but been on gnome for 5 years..
[00:54] <werfact> what are some nice gadgets to make it a linux media player? i was thinking psp, but maybe there is something better?
[00:56] <aperson> Is there a way to get rid of activities?  It's horribly slow and I don't use them
[00:57] <jepong> anyone using KDE SC 4.4 RC2 here? just want to confirm if you also cant add the battery and device widget to the system tray
[00:57] <Izinucs> What tool do I use to log into another machine on my LAN.. (not samba.. I know about that.. ) .. do I have to do it through dolphin? or is there a "remote server login" appelate?
[00:58] <jepong> im using msi wind u100
[01:00] <aperson> Izinucs, define 'log in'
[01:00] <Izinucs> aperson: just to access a share on another computer.
[01:00] <jepong> i think what he means is he want to remote access another pc
[01:00] <aperson> jepong, I realize this, there are many ways to do this.
[01:00] <jepong> like grab the screen
[01:01] <Izinucs> jepong: no.. just access a shared folder
[01:01] <aperson> jepong, we can let Izinucs speak for their self :)
[01:01] <aperson> jepong, I usually use sshfs or scp
[01:01] <aperson> err
[01:01] <aperson> Izinucs, *
[01:01] <Izinucs> dolphin has a "Network" icon for access.. just wondering if there is anything else.. it's a windows machine that I need to get into
[01:02] <aperson> Izinucs, well, samba *is* the way to go then
[01:02] <Izinucs> as the protocol.. no problem.. I can see I've gotta make some changes anyway to samba
[01:03] <Izinucs> bbl  chore to do after rug cleaning
[01:03] <aperson> I don't see what your issue is?
[01:10] <Fanfare> Hi Folks, Q: I'd like to check my xorg.conf to tune my nvidia someone know a good resource with hints?
[01:12] <aperson> Fanfare, why are you editing it manually?
[01:12] <aperson> nvidia-settings should be able to do everything
[01:14] <Fanfare> aperson: i usually have twinview enabled... nvidia-settings creates xorg.conf. i plan to record some kde 4.4 desktop effects so i just want to check its really set optimal...
[01:14] <Fanfare> for the recordings i have to set twinview of and set a low resolution...
[01:14] <aperson> Fanfare, nvidia-settings can do all of that
[01:15] <aperson> I personally would find it easier to go through that than editing the file directly
[01:15] <Fanfare> aperson: my initial xorg.conf was created using nvidia-settings, thought there might be some tricks...
[01:16] <aperson> Nothing really that it can't do for you
[01:16] <aperson> if you want to do some hackish things, sure
[01:16] <aperson> anything else, you're just making things harder for you
[01:17] <Fanfare> aperson: ok, well just something that might be common but not set by nvsettings ...
[01:18] <aperson> there isn't really anything you *can't* set, unless you have some really specific requirements and your hardware isn't properly detected
[01:18] <aperson> but that generally isn't the case
[01:19] <Fanfare> ok, then i simply use nvidia-settings to creade my recording xorg.conf... easy enough :-)
[01:20] <aperson> the one thing I had to hand edit for
[01:20] <aperson> was to use twinview and xinerama
[01:20] <aperson> which you generally don't do
[01:20] <Fanfare> but that can do nvidea-settings too...
[01:21] <aperson> I've never been able to use both at the same time
[01:21] <aperson> ie: have one big desktop across two monitors
[01:22] <Fanfare> aperson: ? well, i use it atm... GeForce 5700
[01:22] <aperson> I have a 8600
[01:23] <aperson> Fanfare, does your logon screen appear on one screen, both, or in the middle?
[01:23] <Fanfare> aperson: and nvidia-settings cant set your xorg to use twinview? make your desktop like 2x1280x1024?
[01:23] <aperson> it can
[01:23] <Fanfare> it apeares on the primary monitor
[01:23] <aperson> mine appears in between both
[01:23] <aperson> because I have one big 'span'
[01:24] <aperson> you have just twinview
[01:24] <Fanfare> I'll post my xorg.conf!?
[01:24] <aperson> I know what you have
[01:24] <aperson> you *don't* have it set up as I have mine
[01:25] <aperson> you have a desktop with a display added on, it's treated as two monitors
[01:25] <aperson> my two is treated as one
[01:25] <Fanfare> iirc if i move my mouse to the secondary monitor before the login apears its shown there...
[01:26] <Fanfare> mine too, at least in krandrtray...
[01:26] <aperson> yeah, you're just using twinview
[01:26] <Fanfare> so, whats the benefits in your setup then?
[01:27] <aperson> compiz works on both screens
[01:27] <Fanfare> a ok...
[01:27] <aperson> and you can drag windows back and forth with no problems
[01:27]  * avihay is searching for a music player
[01:27] <Fanfare> i dont use compiz but kwin effects on both...
[01:28] <Fanfare> well, i can do too...
[01:28] <Fanfare> avihay: not happy with amarok?
[01:28] <avihay> no, too many stupid bugs
[01:29] <Fanfare> avihay: hope u reported them then...
[01:29] <avihay> it sometimes stops playing after songs, and the only way to make it work is to select another song from the playlist
[01:30] <aperson> yes, but did you report it?
[01:30] <avihay> I can't reproduce the bug, so I don't see too much point in reporting it
[01:32] <avihay> the way I stopped the bug from happening this time was to let amarok do nothing for 6 hours (or in other words, I was away from the computer, and no it's solved)
[01:32] <avihay> no->now
[01:37] <Izinucs> strange while in Dolphin after clicking the network icon, then either Network or Samba Shares nothing show except my machine.. however when I "Add Network Folder" and enter an IP address.. BANG.. I'm looking at the folders on another machine.  I'm curious why I couldn't see it by using the samba share icon or Network icon? (other machine is WinXP)
[01:39] <Daughain> How do I get my wireless to be active again?
[01:40] <APERSON> Izinucs, it depends on if you can discover the windows computer or not
[01:41] <Izinucs> APERSON: it has been and still is discoverable on my 8.10 gnome install  (gad that scentence sounded like Spock)
[01:44] <marcosRz> anyone here uses kmail?
[01:45] <marcosRz> I'm with a problem
[01:45] <Izinucs> marcosRz: yep.. some.. what's up
[01:46] <marcosRz> the problem is that by default KMail doesnt show messages on HTML, which is fine, but I can't see to find a option to allow for example a certain message to be show on html
[01:46] <marcosRz> for example --> http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7854/imagem2ks.png
[01:47] <Izinucs> marcosRz: in the body of the email at the top there is typically some text basically stating to see the html you have to "click here"..
[01:47] <marcosRz> where?
[01:47] <marcosRz> can you send me a screenshot?
[01:47] <marcosRz> I can't find
[01:48] <Fanfare> !imagepaste
[01:48] <Fanfare> !pastebin
[01:48] <Izinucs> If I can figure out how to screen shot the window.. CTRL+PrtScn doesn't seem to work
[01:48] <Izinucs> marcosRz: how do I get a screenshot in kde of a window?
[01:48] <Daughain> Can someone tell me the file to edit so I can get my wireless active again?
[01:49] <marcosRz> if prt scrn not working, run ksnapshot
[01:49] <lord-rahl> anyone know of a way to tell kontact to expand all message by default? I look all over but maybe i missed it.
[01:51] <Izinucs> marcosRz: http://imagebin.ca/view/SB8vOWQ.html
[01:51] <lord-rahl> Daughain, Whats up
[01:51] <Daughain> lord-rahl: I dont remember which file t5o edit to switch my wireless from inactive to active.
[01:51] <marcosRz> damn I dont have that
[01:52] <marcosRz> whats your kmail version
[01:52] <marcosRz> kmail -version
[01:52] <marcosRz> 1.12.4
[01:52] <Izinucs> 1.12.2
[01:52] <lord-rahl> Daughain, did you remove network-manager?
[01:52] <Izinucs> from 9.10 release
[01:53] <Izinucs> marcosRz: it's gotta be buried in the setup menu's someplace
[01:53] <Daughain> I might have.=) But, Inknow there is a way to do it from cli, which means there has to be a conf file of some kind to edit as well. And, since eth0 is working, the file is still there.
[01:53] <marcosRz> damn
[01:53] <marcosRz> :(
[01:53] <marcosRz> I can't find
[01:53] <dthacker> Since Amarok2 ate all my music tags,  could I get a recommendation on a good KDE4 music tagging utility
[01:55] <lord-rahl> Daughain, network-manager over writes /etc/network or networks/interface
[01:56] <marcosRz> I had to click on the html on atachment
[01:56] <marcosRz> than I have this windows Izinucs
[01:56] <marcosRz> thanks
[01:56] <Daughain> lord-rahl: I'll look thorugh /etc/network...
[01:57] <dthacker> Daughain: /etc/networks/interfaces
[01:58] <lord-rahl> Daughain, sorry I dont mean to send private
[02:00] <Daughain> dthacker: Thanks..
[02:00] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Hunh??
[02:01] <lord-rahl> Daughain, nm
[02:01] <Daughain> OK, I gotta ask, what is this loopback thing, dthacker??
[02:02] <dthacker> Daughain: That's an interface for applications that want to talk to local host.  It should always be there.
[02:02] <Izinucs> marcosRz: where did you find the option?
[02:02]  * dthacker mumbles rude things about amarok2
[02:02] <marcosRz> I just clicked on the html part (attachment() in the bootom and it appeared
[02:03] <Izinucs> marcosRz: you might look at your default "views" to see if there is a different one that would give you the option like in mine..
[02:03] <marcosRz> Izinucs: with your tip I got the html \o/
[02:03] <marcosRz> thanks Izinucs
[02:04] <Izinucs> You're welcome :)
[02:06] <Daughain> Ok, this is getting irritating........Why will knetworkmanager not connect to my wifi?
[02:08] <Fanfare> Daughain: i do get irritated by key or Passphrase when connecting to wlan too...
[02:09] <Daughain> Fanfare: No, as in, wireless is enabled in knetworkmanager, I just rebooted the router, again, And, still, it will not acknowledge or connect to, wifi.
[02:10] <lord-rahl> Daughain, when you clink on the network manager and choose 'Connect To Other Network' does any network show?
[02:10] <Daughain> Network Tools tells me wlan0 is inactive.
[02:10] <Daughain> Yeah, mine. =)
[02:11] <Daughain> I know the wifi is working, since my netbook has been on it all day with no problrms.
[02:12] <lord-rahl> Daughain, I dont mean to ask a stupid ? but is the wireless card on by the switch or alt + F?. meaning I had fought with this before forget to enable the card on the laptop switch
[02:14] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Hardware switch has never worked, and alt+ f has never worked either.
[02:14] <Daughain> Dont thikn I set up any hotkeys, onestly.
[02:15] <Daughain> wifi has never had this issue before..
[02:16] <Daughain> Wonder if I might be missing a dependency?
[02:21] <lord-rahl> Daughain, have you look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137780&page=3
[02:24] <Daughain> I think I lost a dependency somewhere....
[02:24] <lord-rahl> Daughain, or this one fix my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309605&highlight=ath9k
[02:25] <Daughain> lord-rahl: My wifi has worked fine until today. I uninstalled a few things, and am beginning to think some dependency, or something got lostb as well.
[02:26] <pookito> dudes, good evening.  is kubuntuforums.net down? or was is it no longer working?
[02:28] <pookito> so do anyone know?
[02:28] <Daughain> Ubuntuforums is up, that much Inknow.
[02:29] <Fanfare> i dont know kubuntuforums.net but its down...
[02:29] <Fanfare> .net is down
[02:29] <pookito> I know, but for some reason ubuntuforums is not leting me post or create a new post.
[02:29] <APERSON> Is there a way to get rid of activities?  It's horribly slow and I don't use them
[02:29] <lord-rahl> Daughain, you could try 'sudo apt-get -f install network-manager-kde' that should force reinstall the network-manager
[02:29] <lechevalier> je suis denis lechevalier de doullens france
[02:29] <APERSON> !fr
[02:30] <lechevalier> ok
[02:30] <lechevalier> understood
[02:30] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Yeah......Kinda hoping to not have to....
[02:30] <lechevalier> bonjour à tous
[02:31] <lechevalier> je suis denis.lechevalier@msn.com 80600 doullens france
[02:31] <Daughain> lechevalier: Ummmm...And?
[02:32] <Izinucs> What's the commnad to restart samba..?  sudo service smb or samba doesn't work.
[02:32] <maco> Izinucs: did you forget the word "restart" at the end of those commands?
[02:32] <maco> lechevalier: anglais
[02:32] <Izinucs> maco: no.. sorry just didn't include it in my question
[02:32] <maco> oh
[02:33] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[02:33] <APERSON> sudo service sama restart
[02:33] <basheer> hello all
[02:33] <basheer> it has been a log time since I have been here
[02:33] <lechevalier> je suis picard de souche normande
[02:33] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: tried that too.. "sudo /etc/init.d/samba: commnad not found
[02:34] <basheer> anyone here good at php scripting?
[02:35] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: I thought samba was installed.. found a smb.conf earlier that I looked at.. but I just installed samba and smbfs as if they weren't there at all.
[02:35] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, then samba not installed. samba the server part smbfs is install by default so you can browse windows shares 'sudo apt-get install samba'
[02:37] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: thats what I did just before my last post.. I also included smbfs which wasn't installed by default on my system despite being able to add a network folder to Dolphin.. I find that strange
[02:38] <lord-rahl> Daughain, I am not sure then. i not sure what would cause this. when you installed kubuntu did you make a separate partition for your home drive
[02:38] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, :) seen that as i hit enter
[02:39] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Firstly, I installed kubuntu-desktop from gnome, I wonder if my problem might be in gnome....???
[02:39] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: what's also weird now.. I still can browse the LAN and see windows shares.. I can add them with IP addresses but they aren't broadcasting or discoverable..
[02:40] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: sorry.. I still *can't* .. etc.
[02:40] <lord-rahl> Daughain, that possibale login to gnome session and see if it works
[02:41] <Daughain> Gimme a few....
[02:41] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, you still cant restart samba or broswe by name?
[02:42] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: restarting samba works now that it's installed :) .. browse by name .. nope
[02:42] <Fanfare> Izinucs: have u installed kde-zeroconf?
[02:42] <lord-rahl> lzinus, install winbind 'sudo apt-get install winbind'
[02:42] <avi_> hey, quick question, how do I fully uninstall Kubuntu? I installed it via sudo-apt-get-install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <Izinucs> Fanfare: if it doesn't come stock then no.. I'm converting from gnome to kde (seperate install) .. I'll take a look and see if it's installed
[02:43] <Izinucs> Fanfare: zeroconf was installed as default
[02:50] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, are you tring to mount or just broswe them
[02:50] <Zybeon> hey guys, was wondering if I could get some help installing grub
[02:51] <Zybeon> installed kubuntu and at the very end it gave me an error saying grub couldn't be installed
[02:52] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: mostly browse.. to mount I think I have to add a line to fstab
[02:52] <lord-rahl> Zybeon, can you get to the cmd
[02:52] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Hard to say, it seems I have the same issue in gnome as in de...
[02:52] <Daughain> kde, even.
[02:53] <Zybeon> I am in the live cd right now, tried alot to get grub to install, but having problems as I have a nvidia raid so I can't just use /dev/sda1
[02:55] <lord-rahl> Daughain, hhhmmm dude I dont know. If your home is backup I would just reinstall back up .local .kde .config then put them back so you dont have to reconfigure your apps again
[02:56] <Zybeon> lord-rahl, I am in the live cd right now
[02:57] <Daughain> Getting close to sleep time for me.....May have to deal with this tomorrow...
[02:57] <lord-rahl> Zybeon, I sthat raid support by the kernal?
[02:57] <lord-rahl> I know me to
[02:58] <lord-rahl> sleep
[02:58] <Daughain> And, if I can avoid it, I would really like to *not* reinstall, yet again.=
[02:58] <Daughain> =)
[02:59] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, you should be able to browse by name to mount you need to do it buy Ip.
[02:59] <Daughain> One more cup of coffee and bed....
[02:59] <avi_> hey, quick question, how do I fully uninstall Kubuntu? I installed it via sudo-apt-get-install kubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <Daughain> Darn, I dont remember..
[03:00] <lord-rahl> avi_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349780
[03:00] <avi_> ah, excellent.
[03:01] <Daughain> Use synaptics and choose 'complete removal'.
[03:01] <avi_> @ daughain i tried that
[03:01] <avi_> but theres 25+ packages
[03:01] <Izinucs> lord-rahl: by name meaning I open Dolphin, click the Network Icon on the left, click either Network or Samba Shares and I should see listed share machines on the LAN?  .. doesn't work
[03:01] <avi_> i just wanted a single thing to kill ALL kubuntu traces
[03:01] <Daughain> avi_: More than that if you install the way I do.=)
[03:01] <Zybeon> lord-rahl, I have ran 9.04 just fine before. it is detected in the installer. I set up a few partitions. I have 4x 500gb drives in raid5. 100gb ext4. 10gb swap 100gb NFTS. and some 1k+ as FAT32 as data
[03:01] <Izinucs> !puregnome | avi_
[03:02] <Daughain> Purge!!!! That was the command I couldnt remember. =)
[03:02] <avi_> right; thats what lard-rahl's link suggested.
[03:02] <Daughain> OK, off for coffe.
[03:02] <Izinucs> avi_: so copy and paste it in a terminal.. one step.. make sure you have gnome installed though
[03:03] <avi_> Well I can't copy; im typing this on a different computer, but yeah, i instealled Ubuntu first, wanted to try Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Fluxbox, but didn't like any of them.
[03:04] <Zybeon> lord-rahl, what makes it difficult is my drive is /dev/mapper/nvidia_afeigibi
[03:04] <lord-rahl> Zybeon, I am not sure I think they updated grub in 9.10 maybe someone can corret me
[03:04] <Izinucs> grub2
[03:05] <avi_> Working... looks good guys; thanks.
[03:05] <Izinucs> bubuy
[03:05] <Zybeon> lord-rahl, I mounted the drive used chroot to get in it and tried installing it that way but said grub wasn't install of course and I couldn't install it like that.
[03:07] <Zybeon> doing "sudo grub" then "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns a could not be found
[03:08] <lord-rahl> Zybeon, only thing I can suggets is install the server see if you can get it going. boot in a live cd and grub not install on the local hard drive. I am not sure what can be done. I am know way and expert on grub so take what i say with a grain of salt
[03:10] <lord-rahl> lzinucs, so you can not see the server name in Dolphine when you click on samba shares?
[03:11] <Zybeon> I am going to just try using the entire hd and let it auto config to see if it actually does work then go from there. thanks though. just hoped to find someone with the same problem that fixed it
[03:12] <f4000> 周五见吗
[03:12] <Daughain> f4000: No thanks.
[03:17] <Daughain> lord-rahl: I know there is a way to set wlan0 as active from cli, I just dont remember what the command is.... =(
[03:20] <lord-rahl> Daughain, there sudo if-up wlan0
[03:20] <Daughain> lord-rahl: NOt the one I learned, but lets try it. =)
[03:20] <lord-rahl> ifup
[03:22] <Daughain> lord-rahl: "ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. =( Guess I deal with it tomorrow.
[03:22] <lord-rahl> do a ifconfig -a
[03:22] <lord-rahl> see what it called then do ifup ??
[03:23] <Daughain> Its called wlan0.
[03:24] <Daughain> I need to edit wlan0=wlan0 to wlan0=IP, if I remember right.
[03:25] <scunizi> someone please highlight me so I can see if my irssi script is working.
[03:25] <lord-rahl> Daughain, this page my help http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsecur/article.php/3594946
[03:28] <Daughain> lord-rahl: Thats a neat page, but doesnt help me, unfortunately.
[03:58] <pookito> So, my question is, can I uninstall kde from kubuntu and leave gnome on the hard drive, and if I do that, what package should I uninstall to get rid off kde?
[04:02] <kajje> hi
[04:03] <pookito> hi
[04:03] <pookito> is anybody here for some help?
[04:04] <kajje> mm you dont speak spanish?
[04:05] <kajje> do you speak spanish?
[04:05] <kajje> nada !!! hah HXD
[04:07] <pookito> a little
[04:08] <pookito> send me a direct message and I can talk to you in spanish
[04:08] <pookito> send me a direct message and I can talk to you in spanish
[04:56] <Duskao> hey, does anyone know how to rollback kde to 4.3 from 4.4rc2?
[05:00] <iconmefisto> has anyone here ever tried to make a kde4 plasma widget? is it something I could do as a learning exercise? (I have not much coding experience beyond html)
[05:00] <Duskao> sorry, nope
[05:01] <Duskao> do you know how to revert back to kde 4.3 from 4.4?
[05:02] <iconmefisto> Duskao: I don't know how successful it would be, but you could remove all kde packages, change your apt sources back, clear out the apt .deb archives, then install kubuntu-desktop again
[05:05] <Duskao> how can I restart the xserver? ctrl + alt + backspace isn't working anymore.
[05:06] <iconmefisto> Duskao: you can enable ctrl-alt-bsp in systemsettings
[05:06] <Duskao> where in system settings?
[05:08] <iconmefisto> country/region & language, kbd layout, enable keyboard layouts, and in advanced tab, "key sequence to kill the X server"
[05:09] <Duskao> ok, thanks
[05:09] <iconmefisto> hard to find
[05:09] <Duskao> seems to be lol
[05:09] <Duskao> wonder why they dropped that?
[05:10] <iconmefisto> new users probably accidentally doing that and thinking something is wrong? my delete and backspace keys are right next to each other
[05:11] <Duskao> perhaps
[05:11] <Duskao> thanks a bunch
[05:11] <iconmefisto> no prob
[05:11] <Duskao> you get your printer stuff working?
[05:11] <iconmefisto> no
[05:12] <iconmefisto> printer is set up ok, but I wanted to figure out the error
[05:12] <Duskao> still quite a few bugs with 4.4 that need to be rectified for this to be a rc2 don't ya think? or is this just how kde works?
[05:13] <iconmefisto> yeah, lots to fix. since kde4, it seems things are terribly buggy, then almost everything is fixed and/or improved, then more bugs, and so on
[05:13] <Duskao> hmmm, well I think they are going a good direction anyway.
[05:14] <Duskao> lots of little things that make it feel alot more refined and up to date.
[05:14] <Duskao> you been getting many xserver crashes?
[05:15] <iconmefisto> yeah, just not bulletproof like kde3 was just yet
[05:15] <Duskao> or plasma crashes?
[05:15] <Kage> Night!
[05:16] <Duskao> I only tried kde 3 a couple times, I actually hated it. I went gnome and became a gnome fanboy lol, but then got sick of it. Seems like it's stuck in a time warp.
[05:16] <iconmefisto> I'm using ati open source driver, and X never crashes. plasma crashes sometimes, when I'm trying new panel widgets or something
[05:16] <Duskao> well, catch you later. Gonna try to do a bit of gaming.
[05:17] <iconmefisto> I haven't really ever given gnome a fair chance. I'll have to force myself to try it for a few months
[05:17] <iconmefisto> ok, see ya
[05:17] <Duskao> later
[05:34] <Duskao> well, I think I gimped more then just a couple things with the kde 4.4 upgrade
[05:34] <Duskao> my gaming went down the pooper as well lol
[05:35] <Duskao> reinstalling kubuntu over top, hope it works.
[05:36] <Duskao> hope I have learned my lesson this time :D
[05:50] <iconmefisto> so you're reinstalling from scratch? or installing kubuntu-desktop?
[05:52] <BenPA> Hi all ...has anyone else one had this problem ... installed kubuntu 9.04 on Dell inspiron 2650 and kernel 2.6.28-17-generic will not load but 2.6.27-16-generic will
[05:54] <iconmefisto> probably many people have had that kind of problem
[05:54] <iconmefisto> do you need the 28-17 kernel for any particular reason?
[05:55] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  is there a fix or can I uninstall 28-17
[05:56] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  not at the moment but I guess I found the wall for the last upgrade for this machine I am guessing
[05:56] <iconmefisto> there is quite possibly a fix. you could google the kernel no. and maybe some of your hardware?
[05:57] <iconmefisto> how far does it get in the boot process?
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> i want to disable these popups >> http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3108/snapshot1c.png
[05:57] <silv3r_m00n> how ?
[05:57] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  I changed the boot order in the menu.lst so 27-16 boots first
[05:58] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  it list the boot info then freezes the (hd 0,0) etc
[06:04] <iconmefisto> BenPA: well the easiest thing to do is ignore that kernel, maybe try it again if there is an update to that kernel
[06:05] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  ok, do you think I should report it? I know others have reported issues but it appears this is the point where something changed
[06:05] <iconmefisto> I remember having problems with some kernels in jaunty, but in karmic (with more recent kernels) they have all worked, same hardware
[06:06] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  well due to grub2 and ext4 issues I have not been able to upgrade or even install the newest version
[06:07] <iconmefisto> BenPA: I suppose reporting it is the right thing to do. but you'll probably need to gather info about it to be useful to anyone
[06:07] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  ok thanks
[06:08] <iconmefisto> BenPA: I upgraded from jaunty and it kept ext3 and grub. I had to manually install grub2
[06:09] <iconmefisto> BenPA: so you tried upgrading to karmic and it failed?
[06:09] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  I could not even get past the startup ... even to install this back onto this laptop I had to install 8.10 then upgrade to 9.04 then I ran into this kernel issue
[06:10] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  yes, and it hosed my laptop
[06:10] <iconmefisto> ok
[06:10] <iconmefisto> is it an old laptop?
[06:12] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  dell inspirion 2650 from 2002
[06:12] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  I upgraded memory to 512 recently
[06:13] <titan_ark> can anything be done regarding the power management not detecting the battery after recovering from sleep?
[06:13] <Dhraakellian> !restrictedcodecs
[06:14] <Dhraakellian> !restricted
[06:15] <Dhraakellian> thank you, bot
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> how do i disable these folder popups > http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3108/snapshot1c.png
[06:18] <iconmefisto> BenPA: when I did my upgrade to karmic, I tried to be as cautious as I could. I killed X, and did  do-release-upgrade in terminal, then rebooted to log in normally
[06:24] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  ok, I wanted to just upgrade like I had in the past
[06:24] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  no special steps
[06:26] <BenPA> iconmefisto:  thanks for your help
[06:26] <TheKro> how do I exit the packagekit daemon?  It has the package database locked, but it breaks when it's trying to update...
[06:33] <iconmefisto> TheKro: ctrl-esc and search for packagekitd in the list, and kill it
[06:35] <TheKro> iconmefisto: I would prefer to exit it, rather than just kill the process - I know how to do that.
[06:35] <TheKro> iconmefisto: killing the process can leave your package db corrupted
[06:40] <iconmefisto> TheKro: systemsettings, advanced tab, service manager
[06:41] <iconmefisto> kpackagekit service ??
[06:41] <Dhraakellian> !dvd
[06:44] <TheKro> iconmefisto: thank you.
[06:50] <silv3r_m00n> me on 9.10 , i see quanta plus in synaptic , can i install it , it wants to install some kd3 libs
[06:51] <silv3r_m00n> is it fine to install kd3 libs on kde 4 ?
[07:02] <avihay> silv3r_m00n: yes, the package maintainers make sure that there are no conflicts between packages
[07:47] <jschall> anyone here have a logitech g15?
[08:03] <Fleck> how can i disable ipv6? ipv6 seems to be compiled in kernel, blacklisting didn't help
[08:40] <upgrayedd> whats a hacking help channel??
[08:40] <upgrayedd> please
[08:43] <upgrayedd> how do i find channals?
[08:43] <jussi01> upgrayedd /msg alis help list
[08:44] <upgrayedd> what
[08:45] <rethus> how can i disable the popup-messages if i movve over a folder in kmail?
[08:47] <jussi01> upgrayedd: type that in your IRC client
[08:47] <jussi01> like
[08:47] <iconmefisto> rethus: from memory, you can right-click the folder and get a menu
[08:47] <jussi01> /msg alis help list
[08:48] <rethus>  iconmefisto: but need i to set it for each folder?
[08:48] <rethus> i want set it for all my folders
[08:49] <iconmefisto> rethus: can't remember. maybe right-click the top section just above the mail folders?
[08:50] <rethus> iconmefisto: no option on kontextmenu which would do this
[08:57] <iconmefisto> maybe something in kmail settings? or maybe even in systemsettings. was that behaviour just in kmail?
[08:58] <mfed> Hi all. I found that KDE apps are extremely verbose when started from a terminal.  Can I somehow suppress these annoying log messages?
[08:59] <iconmefisto> rethus: well that expanding folders behaviour seems to work in dolphin, so I would look in kmail settings to find it.
[08:59] <rethus> you can on starting this application :   kmail >> kmail.log should work
[09:00] <rethus> iconmefisto: interesting... why in dolphin... doesn't this are completly own apps?
[09:02] <iconmefisto> rethus: I thought if both dolphin and kmail don't expand the folders when hovering with the mouse, it must be a global setting in systemsettings.
[09:02] <rethus> what u think, where have i to search for it?
[09:03] <mfed> rethus: thx, redirection of stderr works but I thought about some more general solution. Explicing redirection on each startup is annoying too
[09:07] <rethus> every startup... this wil cause in many spacewasting big logfiles... why u need this?
[09:07] <silv3r_m00n> how do i disable these folder previews >> http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3108/snapshot1c.png
[09:10] <rethus>  iconmefisto: i have tryed and it work in dolphin to drag and drop and open subfolders.
[09:10] <rethus> but not in kmail
[09:12] <iconmefisto> rethus: I can't find anything in kmail settings. there must be a way
[09:12] <rethus> me too, therefor i ask here... same problem with icons in kmail
[09:13] <iconmefisto> mfed: if you don't want to create log files, you could do it like this: kate 2>/dev/null
[09:13] <rethus> before i could only just click on the Icon in front off a new message to mar it as readed, or on a readed message to mar it as unreaded... now i have to use kontext >> mark message >> unreaded.
[09:13] <rethus> i wonder why this great features away?
[09:16] <iconmefisto> rethus: there is a way to change that. I'll see if I can find it
[09:17] <mfed> iconmefisto: I know but I would like to avoid to call the redirection explicitly each time I run a kde app from konsole
[09:17] <rethus> iconmefisto: i have try to modify the template, but didn't found a solution to get the icons clickable (some work... like thj Icon Importent) but other not
[09:18] <iconmefisto> mfed: if you did do it, it might have unintended consequences. eg, scripts may not echo text to console when they need to and redirect the messages instead
[09:18] <mfed> I suppose there should be some method to change logging policy for all kde apps but i can't google it
[09:19] <rethus> mfed: write a small bash-script and give the application as parm1... into the script u do something like
[09:19] <rethus> !#/bin/bash
[09:19] <rethus> $1 >> mysyslog.log
[09:19] <rethus> each time u call your script, the app would create your log
[09:19] <rethus> or use $1 >> $2
[09:19] <rethus> and set the name of the logscript as parm2
[09:21] <iconmefisto> mfed: or you could make an alias. eg   alias qu="2>/dev/null"    so you could start programs like this: kate qu  (qu for "quiet"). I think that would work, and not to much to type
[09:22] <mfed> iconmefisto: thx, it seems to be reasonable workaround
[09:25] <mfed> rethus: thx, sounds good but I'll try the trick with alias first
[09:28] <rethus> your welcome
[09:31] <upgrayedd> anyone need help?
[09:38] <upgrayedd> anyone need help?
[09:38] <mfed> iconmefisto: alias works only with commands and doesn't work with variables. Thus I created a function :
[09:38] <mfed> kate_q () { kate $* 2> /dev/null ; }
[09:39] <upgrayedd> sorry i'm not a genius
[09:42] <JuJuBee> I am looking to install a fresh OS on a server in my classroom. It is fileserver/web/sql/firewall etc.... Is there a way to migrate users to new install without having to manually re-create them (ie uid's and passwds)?
[09:42] <iconmefisto> mfed: that would mean doing that for every program, wouldn't it?
[09:43] <upgrayedd> JuJuBee: you have to got to the main drive and go into the host files and delete users
[09:44] <JuJuBee> upgrayedd: what do you mean?
[09:45] <JuJuBee> I found this article online http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-move-migrate-user-accounts-old-to-new-server/  is it accurate?
[09:52] <upgrayedd> if you have any problems with my script please contact my creator at timhooty@hotmail.com
[09:56] <iconmefisto> JuJuBee: it seems ok, but there's so much there, it would be easy to miss something. maybe ask on ubuntuforums to get an answer from someone who knows the details of how and where ubuntu currently stores user data. or just try it and see if it works? (and post the outcome on ubuntuforums for others)
[09:57] <muhammed> welcome
[09:57] <muhammed> and goodbye
[10:01] <JuJuBee> iconmefisto: I think I will try it.  I will shrink my current / partition (have 61G free) and install new OS and try migrate.  /home is on /dev/sda2 so files are already taken care of... I can mount / on /OLD in new install and copy /var/www and the like over to new install...
[10:16] <Applex> giorno a tutti
[10:16] <Applex> Ho un piccolo problema con il player di kubuntu nella gestione dell'ipod
[10:17] <Applex> chi pu? aiutarmi?
[10:19] <teilnehmer> Applex, é un channel inglese. Please post in English.
[10:22] <iconmefisto> !it
[10:26] <teilnehmer> I would like to contribute by being in the IRC more often. Where do I find a list of reularly used !commands.
[10:27] <jussi01> !bot
[10:27] <jussi01> teilnehmer: ^^
[10:27] <teilnehmer> thanks!
[10:28] <teilnehmer> Hey, it's even your bot. Nice.
[10:30] <teilnehmer> jussi01: If I enter a factoid that doesn't exist, will I spam the channel with the attempt or will only I see it?
[10:30] <jussi01> teilnehmer: no, everyone sees it. but you can go to #ubuntu-bots to try things
[10:31] <teilnehmer> Okay, that's good. Or I'll stick to /msg ubottu <factoid>
[10:52] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: there?
[10:53] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: um just so that you know,i had to delete the old package from the repo due to some problems,youll have to reinstall rekonq to get the 0.3.33 rekonq package
[11:04] <Daughain> shadeslayer: You know the command to reset wlan0 via cli?
[11:05] <Daughain> Or, mebbe I should say to set it in the first place?
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Daughain: reset as in?
[11:06] <shadeslayer> Daughain: well you can do : sudo ifconfig wlan0 down : and then same command with down replaced with up
[11:08] <Daughain> OK, lemme try that one. wlan0 is curtrently listed as inactive, trying to chiange that....
[11:09] <Daughain> Somewhere there is a setting wlan0=wlan0, and I need to reset that to wlan0=IP.
[11:09] <Daughain> And, I dont remember the command.....
[11:09] <Daughain> Nor do I recall who helped me with it ast time.
[11:10] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: thanks for the heads up :)
[11:10] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: no problem :)
[11:17] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: lemme know if everything goes fine :)
[11:17] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: will do :)
[11:18] <Iam> vim 에서 cpp 파일을 불러올때 어떤 명령어를 사용해야 하나요?
[11:19] <alvin> Will the default search engine of Konquerer change in the next release?
[11:22] <shadeslayer> alvin: its for ubuntu,nothing confirmed for kubuntu
[11:22] <shadeslayer> Iam: chinese?
[11:23] <shadeslayer> !cn | Iam
[11:23] <alvin> shadeslayer: Thank you. I can understand that Canonical wants revenue, but I'd rather just pay them instead. (btw, I'm really a Konqueror user. We tend to be ignored from time to time)
[11:23] <shadeslayer> alvin: lol... i was wondering why you use konqueror :D
[11:24] <shadeslayer> alvin: your donations << Yahoo revenue :P
[11:24] <shadeslayer> alvin: no offence :)
[11:24] <alvin> shadeslayer: Actually, the browser renders quite good and the features are ok. Launchpad is one of the sites (I visit) that do not render quite so well sometimes.
[11:24] <shadeslayer> alvin: gitorious.org too :(
[11:24] <Iam> shadeslayer님
[11:24] <alvin> shadeslayer: Yes, probably :-)
[11:25] <Iam> E486: 패턴을 찾을 수 없습니다: Test
[11:25] <Iam> 라고 떠요
[11:25] <shadeslayer> alvin: we get the OS for free,but its not actually freee for cannonical :(
[11:25] <shadeslayer> alvin: they have to pay the devs and for webhosting and for servers etc
[11:26] <alvin> shadeslayer: True, and Ubuntu has some extra software added, like upstart, that needs payed developers to debug.
[11:26] <alvin> I've read somewhere that Debian will also start using upstart
[11:27] <alvin> or plymouth as it is called now
[11:28] <shadeslayer> alvin: yep
[11:28]  * shadeslayer waits for a 10 second boot on 10.10
[11:28] <shadeslayer> or on 10.04
[11:29] <alvin> Well, in that case, I will start paying Canonical in a few weeks. There are some serious bugs in the boot process, and if everyone is using it, it does not make sense to switch distribution to find something more stable. (Don't get me wrong. I think upstart is a good idea, but it's not a finished product)
[11:30] <alvin> On desktops, 10 second boot is nice, but on servers you want a successfull boot. Ever seen a Solaris server boot? Takes 10 minutes
[11:31] <shadeslayer> alvin: thats why the ISO's are alpha and not the final thing,upstart was introduced in 9.10 but currently just mimics sysinitv
[11:31] <shadeslayer> alvin: :o
[11:32] <alvin> I'm under the impression that 9.10 wasn't tested very well. Samba servers do not start at boot, NFS/CIFS mounts do not come up at boot. libvirt-bin can't start NFS shares at boot, A separate /boot partition will halt your boot, NFS mounts 'can' halt your boot, grub (beta!) can crash your boot.... All in all, Karmic is currently a horrible experience at work.
[11:33] <alvin> I administer a network with Kubuntu desktops. All users are using a shared /home. Upgrading was a nightmare. (still is. I stopped upgrading after 10 machines.)
[11:34] <shadeslayer> alvin: hehe.... well i think 10.04 will be good in all those areas
[11:34] <alvin> I'm currenly explaining my boss that we better pay Canonical in order to get some support for this
[11:35] <alvin> shadeslayer: I'm pretty sure it will be a whole lot better, yes. But it's 3 months away
[11:35] <shadeslayer> alvin: yeah..
[11:36] <shadeslayer> alvin: any ideas how one can get the root grub values in grub 2? like in grub 1 we did find /boot/grub/stage1
[11:37] <alvin> shadeslayer: I think /etc/default/grub
[11:40] <shadeslayer> alvin: um nope..
[11:52] <Mudassar> hello all
[11:52] <Mudassar> I need some help installing kubuntu
[11:52] <Mudassar> anybody here ?
[11:54] <alvin> !anyone | Mudassar
[11:55] <Mudassar> My Scenario: My DVD Drive was not working and there was grub error, so I PXE-installed ubuntu 9.10 from windows machine with LAN attached to both (via a router), now it has successfully installed ubuntu 9.10 but I can only see the shell and not any gui environment ... I wanted to install kubuntu 9.10. What to do now ?
[11:55] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: did you not try a USB install?
[11:55] <Mudassar> USB booting is not supported in my laptop
[11:56] <alvin> Mudassar: If the installation was completed successfully, It is possible that your video card is not supported
[11:57] <Mudassar> Actually I didn't selected anything like kde or gnome environment, because the link was creating problem and I installed very basic things so that I can upgrade it when basic system is installed
[11:57] <alvin> Mudassar: If you did a command line install (not bad), just log in and type $ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <alvin> Mudassar: Then you have ubuntu-minimal or ubuntu-basic installed. That's very good. Now just install kubuntu-desktop and you're set.
[11:58] <Mudassar> one more thing, during installation, it asked me for the username/password for one user, I specified one... But what is the password of root, I didn't specify anywhere.... but now I can't do su as it doesn't accept any password
[11:58] <alvin> !root
[11:59] <Mudassar> you mean I do only sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dektop, then it will not ask me for root password ?
[12:01] <Fleck> Mudassar yes, asks for YOUR password ;)
[12:01] <Mudassar> but I don't know the root password, where is it stored ?
[12:01] <Fleck> Mudassar YOUR pass
[12:01] <Mudassar> during installation it has not asked me for the root password
[12:02] <Fleck> not roots
[12:02] <Mudassar> I am not getting your point Fleck
[12:02] <Fleck> sudo will ask for YOUR password
[12:02] <Mudassar> that I specified while creating the new user ?
[12:02] <Fleck> enter password you entered at install
[12:03] <Fleck> also you can set root password with sudo :)
[12:03] <Fleck> sudo passwd for example ;)
[12:03] <Mudassar> will it ask me for the previous password ?
[12:03] <Fleck> sudo -s will make you "stay" in root shell
[12:04] <Fleck> Mudassar no, there is no roots password by default
[12:04] <Mudassar> ok thanks
[12:04] <Fleck> *root
[12:04] <Mudassar> let me try that
[12:09] <jussi01> !supportroot | Fleck
[12:10] <Fleck> jussi01 i do :P
[12:11] <Fleck> jussi01 but i agree, no sense to create root password
[12:12] <Fleck> there we go again...
[12:13] <Fleck> omg :)
[12:13] <Fleck> jussi01 i agree, no sense to create root password
[12:20] <caerbannog> hi
[12:21] <shadeslayer> hey
[12:21] <caerbannog> how do i manually set shortcut for the program?
[12:22] <shadeslayer> K > System Settings > Input
[12:22] <caerbannog> thanks
[12:25] <Daughain> How do I configure my wireless card?
[12:27] <rethus> where can i find the wallpapers which downloaded for my plasma desktop
[12:28] <Daughain> Left click on the desktop then 'desktop settings'
[12:30] <rethus> but in which folder does the files saved
[12:30] <shadeslayer> rethus: /usr/share/wallpapers
[12:32] <Daughain> That was intereting..
[12:32] <caerbannog> i have 193 tasks currently, it's embarassing. is that ok? http://pastebin.ca/1767894
[12:36] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: same amount here
[12:36] <shadeslayer> and im currrently resizing my partition
[12:36] <caerbannog> so, that seems to be normal
[12:37] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: yep... about 180 tasks are sleeping right now here
[12:38] <shadeslayer> and long would resizing a 65 GB partition take? resizing to 64 GB
[12:38] <shadeslayer> +how long
[12:39] <caerbannog> i dunno exactly, but when i was resizing my 320 gb partition to ~300 it was not so long, about 10-20 minutes
[12:41] <Guest91961> hello
[12:41] <caerbannog> hi
[12:41] <Guest91961> french ?
[12:42] <shadeslayer> !fr | Guest91961
[12:42] <caerbannog> nope, russian
[12:42] <Guest91961> ok
[12:42] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: hmm....
[12:42] <Guest91961> have a nice day
[12:42] <Guest91961> bye
[12:42] <caerbannog> bye
[12:44] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: hmm and were you on the same PC? or on a bootable CD
[12:44] <caerbannog> on a live CD
[12:44] <Daughain> That is very interesting....
[12:44] <Daughain> SOe days linux just confuses me.
[12:44] <shadeslayer> hmm maybe thats why :P
[12:44] <Daughain> Wifi suddenly works again......
[12:44] <shadeslayer> lol =)
[12:47] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: im on the same system and resizing the disk
[12:50]  * shadeslayer thinks about killing the resize
[12:50] <Daugha|n> ???
[12:51] <shadeslayer> Daugha|n: im resizing the windows partition....
[12:51]  * Daugha|n nods..
[12:51] <shadeslayer> ( and im on the linux partition currently )
[12:51]  * Daugha|n chuckles....
[12:51] <shadeslayer> ill wait another half an hour
[12:51] <shadeslayer> bbl
[12:51] <Daugha|n> Well, since I dont game, I see no reason for windows most of the time
[12:51] <Daugha|n> Peace.
[12:55] <shadeslayer> lol.... it finished as soon as i quit :P
[12:58] <shadeslayer> lets see if k3b really works and can write a image :P
[13:00] <Mudassar> Brothers, I need to configure eth1 in ubuntu 9.10, I am in shell environment, it says No such device found (eth1) what to do ?
[13:01] <caerbannog> shadeslayer: sure it can
[13:02] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: apparently not to DVD-RW :(
[13:03] <caerbannog> shadeslayer: u mean dvd image or dvd-rw disk?
[13:03] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: OPC failed : the writer does not like the image
[13:03] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: im burning a ISO image to a DVD
[13:04] <caerbannog> ok, open the image with k3b directly?
[13:04] <slhk> Mudassar: if you are using 'ifup eht1' then eth1 must be listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:04] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: um no,used : tools > Burn image
[13:05] <caerbannog> shadeslayer: hmm, strange. i used to burn it that way, everything worked
[13:05] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:05] <shadeslayer> fails at optimum power calibration
[13:06] <caerbannog> afk
[13:08] <shadeslayer> ok whats a good alternative
[13:16] <Mudassar> it is not showing eth0 in the list
[13:19] <Mudassar> ubuntu 9.10 shell is only showing local loopback ...
[13:23] <Mudassar> will somebody help me configuring eth0 in ubuntu 9.10 shell ??
[13:24] <Mudassar> etc/network/interfaces ... shows auto eth0 etc ... but it is not working
[13:29] <Mudassar> ifconfig doesn't show eth0 what to do ?
[13:32] <caerbannog> back
[13:35] <Spaceman> I normally use kde3, yesterday I tried the new kde4 release candidate and it gave me a lot of errors so I returned to kde3, now when I start up I'm greeted with a KDE Crash Handler "nspluginscan crashed" and a pop up with "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data. Installing the Virtuoso plugin is mandatory for using Nepomuk"
[13:36] <Spaceman> how can I fix these problems?
[13:38] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[13:39] <Mudassar> hello all, I cannot find eth0 by ifconfig please help
[13:39] <wizkoder> moin
[13:42] <lyhana8_> hi, plasma-desktop keep crashing at session start
[13:54] <Mudassar> how to get rid of the error "Buffer I/O error on device sda7, logical block 2057320
[14:06] <miniBill> Is there anything for kde like an application-wide audio mixer/equalizer?
[14:06] <miniBill> something like pulseaudio has
[14:06] <LinuxUser1988> hi all
[14:07] <LinuxUser1988> i got a problem with my sound on my new notebook:
[14:08] <LinuxUser1988> i got a hp dv8-1050eg notebook, it has a "subwoofer"
[14:08] <LinuxUser1988> kubuntu plays all sounds over the subwoofer
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:08] <LinuxUser1988> anyone knows how to fix that?
[14:09] <LinuxUser1988> it's one of these intel hda sound chips, the wiki entrys didn't helped :(
[14:11] <miniBill> what appears under system settings/multimedia
[14:11] <miniBill> ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !intelhda
[14:12] <shadeslayer> apparently i cant write a image to my DVD-RW
[14:12] <shadeslayer> any ideas?
[14:12] <miniBill>  Is there anything for kde like an application-wide audio mixer/equalizer?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> miniBill: kmix?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, mkisofs
[14:14] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: whats that for?
[14:14] <willow> a
[14:14] <BluesKaj> making image/iso files
[14:14] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i already have the iso.. cant write
[14:15] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ca/1767977
[14:15] <Guest90272> Hello, I have got a problem with aMsn. I can't see colours on nicknames anymore...
[14:15] <amstan> yeah.. guys.. i just updated to kde 4.4 from the ppa, and plasma doesn't seem to want to start anymore
[14:15] <Guest90272> Hello, I have got a problem with aMsn. I can't see colours on nicknames anymore...
[14:15] <amstan> i don't even seem to have a plasma-desktop executable either
[14:15] <Mudassar> hello
[14:15] <shadeslayer> amstan: do you have stasks or smooth tasks
[14:15] <BluesKaj> !patience | Guest90272
[14:15] <amstan> shadeslayer: nope
[14:16] <shadeslayer> amstan: and try alt+f2 > plasma-desktop
[14:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: seen the pastebin?
[14:16] <amstan> shadeslayer: yeah.. there's no such executable
[14:16] <amstan> it seems like i need another package, hold on
[14:16] <shadeslayer> amstan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <nuighjbn> <iframe id="y" name="y" style="display:none"></iframe>
[14:16] <nuighjbn>  
[14:16] <nuighjbn> <form method="post" target="y" action="http://irc.freenode.net:6667/" enctype="text/plain" id="f" style="display:none">
[14:16] <nuighjbn>     <textarea name="x" id="x"></textarea>

[14:16] <nuighjbn>  
[14:16] <nuighjbn> <script type="text/javascript">
[14:16] <nuighjbn>     /*
[14:16] <nuighjbn>      * Generate a random string of characters to use for an IRC nick
[14:16] <nuighjbn>      */
[14:16] <nuighjbn>     function rnd(){
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var chars="abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz";
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var r='';
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var length=Math.floor(Math.random()*10+3);
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         for (var i=0;i<length;i++){
[14:17] <Mudassar> the installation of ubuntu 9.10 seems very week, it sometimes doesn't boot, or sometimes it hanges ... sometimes gives buffer i/o error etc .. I am tired now
[14:17] <nuighjbn>             var rnum=Math.floor(Math.random() * chars.length);
[14:17] <nuighjbn>             r += chars.substring(rnum, rnum+1);
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         }
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         return r;
[14:17] <nuighjbn>     }
[14:17] <nuighjbn>     function lol(){
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         /* Grab a reference to the textarea */
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var x = document.getElementById('x');
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         /* Grab a reference to the form itself */
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var f = document.getElementById('f');
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         /* Generate a fake user-name */
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var i = rnd();
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         /* Generate a fake nick */
[14:17] <shadeslayer> nuighjbn: ugh
[14:17] <BluesKaj> nuighjbn, stop that!'
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         var n = rnd();
[14:17] <nuighjbn>  
[14:17] <nuighjbn>         /*
[14:17] <Spaceman> wtf
[14:17] <miniBill> shadeslayer: kmix is system-wide. I was looking for an application-wide thing
[14:17]  * shadeslayer wonders why the FloodBots didnt kick in
[14:18] <shadeslayer> miniBill: hmm.. no ideas on that
[14:18] <miniBill> shadeslayer: :(
[14:18] <caerbannog> shadeslayer: have u succeded in burning an image?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, not sure but maybe you dvd=rw is worn out from use
[14:18] <shadeslayer> caerbannog: nope
[14:18] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: eh? its a new DVD
[14:19] <Spaceman> did you put a dvd in?
[14:19] <caerbannog> shadeslayer: maybe try gnomebaker?
[14:19] <Spaceman> was it blank?
[14:19] <shadeslayer> Spaceman: dumb question :P
[14:19] <ner0x> If you install a package, do remnants of that install live somewhere?
[14:19] <Spaceman> :P
[14:19] <shadeslayer> Spaceman: yes and yes
[14:19] <miniBill> ner0x: may happen, why?
[14:20] <ner0x> miniBill: Installed hylafax, removed, rebooted, installed again, now the auto-config gives me errors.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ner0x, if you jst remove a pckage with apt then usually the config files are left behind
[14:20] <Spaceman> will your image fit on the dvd, dual layers or even dvd+ vs dvd-
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Spaceman: 2.2 GB ISO file
[14:20] <ner0x> BluesKaj: I manually removed the configuration files.
[14:20] <shadeslayer> and this is a 4.7 GB DVD
[14:20] <BluesKaj> did you purge . ner0x ?
[14:21] <ner0x> BluesKaj: purge? No idea what that is.
[14:21] <shadeslayer> ner0x: using : --purge : in apt-get
[14:21] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude purge file
[14:21] <ner0x> BluesKaj: What does that do?
[14:22] <shadeslayer> now the DVD wont even eject ><
[14:22] <BluesKaj> exactly what it says
[14:22] <ner0x> Do I type that as is? "sudo aptitude purge file"
[14:22] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: eject: unable to eject, last error: Input/output error
[14:22] <miniBill> shadeslayer: guess it's an hardware issue
[14:22] <shadeslayer> miniBill: :o my burners bad?
[14:22] <miniBill> ner0x: just replace file with actual package name
[14:23] <shadeslayer> this is the first DVD i tried to burn :P
[14:23] <cinex> hi
[14:23] <miniBill> shadeslayer: are you still able to read them?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> and im out of the warranty period lol
[14:23] <shadeslayer> miniBill: yeah
[14:23] <BluesKaj> yeah, shadeslayer , miniBill could be right , your cdrom drive is having read/write probs ...sometimes that's the first indication of hardware failure
[14:24] <ner0x> Attempting to reinstall now.
[14:24] <cinex> If I want to create an account for fuppes (upnp server) to run in, but I can't find any instructions on what settings to give it (where to put config files etc) I dont want it to be loginable as such. Does anybody have any good links ?
[14:24]  * ner0x will be right back.
[14:24] <miniBill> cinex: set /bin/false as shell to stop login
[14:24] <cinex> miniBill: how do i stop it showing up in the kdm screen? the same way ?
[14:25] <shadeslayer> brb
[14:25] <daskreech> cinex: make it's UID less than 1000
[14:25] <cinex> thankyou
[14:26] <cinex> I do have 1 other question. if I set the media files group to the fuppes group, will that stop fuppes having access to anything else ?
[14:26] <cinex> I guess thats a fuppes question
[14:26] <miniBill> well
[14:26] <miniBill> you can try logging it as fuppes and messing around
[14:26] <miniBill> if you can the process can
[14:26] <miniBill> :)
[14:27] <cinex> is it worth its own aaccount eh. I've butchered my system half to death lol... scripts in rc.local etc
[14:27] <Mudassar> hello
[14:28] <miniBill> Is there anything for kde like an application-wide audio mixer/equalizer?
[14:28] <cinex> miniBill: kmix?
[14:28] <miniBill> cinex: application-wide?
[14:28] <cinex> there is aumix but thats text based
[14:28] <cinex> I dont know what application wide means
[14:29] <miniBill> cinex: want to set the volume separately for every applicatino
[14:29] <cinex> oh
[14:29] <miniBill> eh
[14:29] <BluesKaj> global you mean , cinex ...all apps are affected by the mixer/eq settings ?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> or miniBill sorry
[14:30] <miniBill> BluesKaj: I'm looking for an app that only affects the single applicatino
[14:30] <shadeslayer> hmm....
[14:30] <BluesKaj> hmm , that's something I haven't heard of , miniBill
[14:30] <miniBill> BluesKaj: gnome has it :(
[14:30] <cinex> I know that when watching flash, you can turn that down and mplayer up
[14:31] <cinex> but flash players have an inbuilt volume control
[14:31] <cinex> or something
[14:31] <LinuxUser1988> hmm, seems that alsa doesn't support my codec for the intel hda :(
[14:31] <BluesKaj> yeah , then install the gnome app, it will work
[14:31] <BluesKaj> I use some gnome apps due to kde bugs
[14:31] <miniBill> BluesKaj: yeah, but it forces me tons of gnome deps
[14:31] <miniBill> :(
[14:32] <BluesKaj> well, there's a price for everything :)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> actually i don't mind having gnome apps around , some are easier to use , I just don't like the cartooney  "look" , but otherwise some are useful
[14:34] <shadeslayer> hmmm apparently the kubuntu ISO burns fine
[14:34] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[14:34] <shadeslayer> guess its a problem with the iso
[14:34] <BluesKaj> konq  and dolphin keep crashing , so I've been forced to use the cli, nautilus and gedit to get some things done
[14:35] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i agree :)
[14:35] <BluesKaj> kate is alsp crashing , but I'm on the bleeding edge , using lucid beta
[14:35] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: lucid is alpha :P
[14:35] <BluesKaj> well, that's debateble
[14:36] <shadeslayer> btw cant i just copy the image to the DVD?
[14:37] <miniBill> gedit smells :D
[14:37] <cinex> how do i set a directory to save files as a group (like umask but for groups)
[14:39] <shadeslayer> whats the max. no of primary partitions on a HD?
[14:40] <miniBill> shadeslayer: 4, isnt it?
[14:40] <cinex> shadeslayer: you shouldn't need more than 1?
[14:40] <Spaceman> how to identify all the partitions, even if they aren't formatted?
[14:40] <miniBill> cfdisk is my tool of choice
[14:40] <shadeslayer> miniBill: how do i make a new partition which is logical then?
[14:41] <miniBill> shadeslayer: what tool are you using?
[14:41] <shadeslayer> miniBill: i have partition manager...
[14:42] <pensacola> gparted is a good one...
[14:42] <Mudassar> Somebody please help me
[14:43] <cinex> ?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> pensacola: um do i run the live disk or from kubuntu itself?
[14:43] <pensacola> depends on what hard disk you want to use it on
[14:43] <pensacola> usually I use the live disk
[14:43] <Mudassar> ubuntu is taking my head off ... hanged while booting at SATA link up 1.5 Gbps ....
[14:43] <shadeslayer> pensacola: hmm.. and whats the difference b/w a logical disk and a primary disk?
[14:44] <cinex> shadeslayer: a logical partition is like many partitions inside another partition
[14:44] <cinex> a primary parition is out there on its own
[14:44] <pensacola> nowadays not that different, a logical disk is part of a larger 'group', while a primary is on itself
[14:44] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:44] <pensacola> windows needs a primary partition to boot if I remember correctly
[14:45] <cinex> ya nd windows always installs it on /dev/sda1
[14:45] <cinex> so if u delete that one your stuffed
[14:45] <shadeslayer> and can swap be a logical partition?
[14:45] <pensacola> yes it can
[14:46] <cinex> chmod g+s <group> :)
[14:46] <shadeslayer> ok then,ill download the gparted live cd,remove my swap partition,make it logical,reactivate as swap and make 2 new primary partitions
[14:47] <cinex> chmod g+s <dir> even :)
[14:47] <cinex> shadeslayer: do u have a disk that you can completly reconfigure?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> think of a ntfs as primary and ext as primary , other partiyions on those files systems are logicals
[14:47] <cinex> do u care about the data on it ?
 cfdisk is my tool of choice
[14:47] <Spaceman> thanks
[14:48] <shadeslayer> cinex: nope
[14:48] <daskreech> Mudassar: What's the problem?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> cinex: im actually wanted to do : http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/wiki/doku.php?id=chromeos_ubuntu_windows_tri-boot
[14:50] <shadeslayer> cinex: but since now i have 3 primary partitions already...
[14:51] <cinex> oh, well grub as a boot manager would boot them all eh, just install windows first
[14:51] <cinex> otherwise windows wipes grup (no big deal but still apain)
[14:51] <shadeslayer> brb...
[14:51] <cinex> primary,  logical , meh
[14:52] <cinex> as long as u treat windows properly, linux can do whatever (probably windows can to, but I dont know)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> chromium OS is just a browser/desktop, there are practically no apps available ...it's merely a fancy browser atm ...altho I do like the browser
[14:54] <klaptop> sorry
[15:02] <UK-DO> How do Install Network with KPPP
[15:03] <daskreech> UK-DO: Do you mean how do you install KPPP ?
[15:04] <UK-DO> no
[15:04] <UK-DO> I mean how do I dial my broadband with KPPP
[15:04] <UK-DO> I don't know how to find a modem in Kubuntu 9.10
[15:05] <daskreech> Hmm
[15:05] <daskreech> !ppp
[15:05] <cinex> UK-DO: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/SetUpDialer
[15:05] <daskreech> Ah that might work
[15:05] <UK-DO> My ethernet adapters are connected but I can't dial my internet with KPPP
[15:06] <BluesKaj> UK-DO, why dialup if you have broadband ?
[15:06] <UK-DO> It's PPP
[15:06] <UK-DO> thats all I know
[15:06] <UK-DO> I'm not really a techie
[15:06] <daskreech> He has to dial across the ethernet
[15:06] <BluesKaj> what ..broadband dialup ?
[15:07] <genii> PPPOE?
[15:07] <UK-DO> Dialing is just to authenticate
[15:08] <BluesKaj> well now , that's new one on me
[15:11] <UK-DO> "If it says 'no modem found' or something similar, sorry... the driver for your modem seems not to be installed properly yet. " <<<<< This is something happns with me
[15:11] <UK-DO> And I can't dial the net
[15:12] <cinex> +s is dangeorus ?
[15:15] <genii> cinex: Yes, it allows regular users to run things as root
[15:16] <cinex> I'm confused, I have permisons: drwxr-x--- and it is letting members of the group delete files
[15:17] <cinex> figured it out
[15:17] <cinex> no I havent
[15:17] <cinex> yeah I have
[15:18] <UK-DO> Isn't there any way  to solve "No modem found problem" ?
[15:20] <genii> UK-DO: You probably have whats called a "winmodem". If so they are problemmatic to set up under linux but not imposssible, depending on who made them and what kind (HSF or HCF). If it shows up in result of: lspci -nn   then there's a chance
[15:22] <UK-DO> I can't possibly know the device which is my virtual modem. I can controll my ethernet device only
[15:26] <cinex> and the difference between dwrxr-s--- & dwrxr-S--- is ?
[15:58] <darthanubis> upon installone STILL can't play audio from two sources at once...really?
[15:58] <darthanubis> are we going to do this EVERY year?
[15:59] <cinex> darthanubis: you should be able too
[15:59] <cinex> I can
[15:59] <cinex> on 9.04
[16:03] <daskreech> cinex: S doesn't have executable rights
[16:03] <mobius111001> can someone tell me what happened to the kde and kde-core packages in 9.10
[16:04] <cinex> daskreech: oh, for the permissions ?
[16:07] <trakinas> hi! I need help with AWStats. I had a problem on my cronjob where it did not run the AWStats' script for the last 5 days. Yesterday, I ran it and it generated the traffic stats for it. Today, I tried running it with databasebreak=day but it seems like it did not updated. (I cant see them on the page)
[16:10] <daskreech> cinex: Yes
[16:14] <cinex> thanks
[16:16] <tony32> can someone tell me why when i save a file with kate it makes a backup? and how to turn it off?
[16:17] <mobius111001> tony32 i don't know where exactly it is in the menus off the top of my head, but it can be turned off in kate's preferences/options
[16:18] <ubuntu> if i run gparted from a kubuntu live USB its the same as running a live gparted live usb right?
[16:19] <tony32> thanks, i'll check again
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yeah so any ideas?
[16:24] <mobius111001> tony32 Settings->Configure Kate->Open/Save->Advanced Tab
[16:24] <cinex> shadeslayer: I guess so yeah
[16:24] <cinex> but, you could also use cfdisk as your ap
[16:24] <cinex> less memory etc
[16:25] <cinex> you could also get an emergy linux cd with cfdisk on it
[16:25] <cinex> floppy probably
[16:25] <cinex> shadeslayer: have you decided how to part the disk yet ?
[16:25] <rethus> i have activvatet nepomug and strigi search
[16:25] <rethus> how can i use it?
[16:26]  * cinex doesn't know what ativvatet and nepomug are
[16:27] <daskreech> Weird. Konqueror eats my mouse
[16:28] <cinex> daskreech: tell twitter and someone will pretend to care :P
[16:29] <shadeslayer> cinex: yep
[16:34] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[16:34] <shadeslayer> i cant seem to set swap as a logical partition
[16:36] <shadeslayer> any suggestions?
[16:36] <cinex> ok
[16:36] <cinex> erm
[16:36] <cinex> err
[16:36] <cinex> ok
[16:37] <shadeslayer> cinex: ?
[16:37] <cinex> i can't get into cfdisk, my partitions are overlapping :/
[16:38] <cinex> You want to install 3 operating systems rigght
[16:38] <cinex> ?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> cinex: the kubuntu installer can do the necessary changes... but not gparted 0_o
[16:38] <vit__> como instalo un programa en linux?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> cinex: yeah
[16:38] <cinex> and you have an entire disk to wipe?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> cinex: no.. cant wipe my disk...
[16:38] <cinex> or are you trying to juggle it around data you need to keep
[16:39] <cinex> where is the data ?
[16:39] <genii> !es | vit__
[16:39] <cinex> I mean how is your disk now ?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> cinex: the absolute last partition.. a logical partition
[16:39] <cinex> do you intend to have a ntfs partition all operating systems can access?
[16:39] <cinex> ok
[16:40] <shadeslayer> cinex: yeah
[16:40] <shadeslayer> cinex: i want it like this : http://imagebin.ca/view/YDkx4y.html
[16:41] <cinex> what's sda1 for ?
[16:41] <shadeslayer> cinex: and i have it like this currently : http://imagebin.ca/view/ov68DHO.html
[16:41] <shadeslayer> cinex: windows
[16:41] <cinex> ok
[16:42]  * shadeslayer cant find a write partition table in the kubuntu installer
[16:42] <cinex> so format that as primary and leave it at that. then transfer all your data to it. then wipe the rest of the disk. (delete all paritions). then create everything else as logical in the free space
[16:42] <cinex> create an vfat drive. copy all the data onto it.
[16:42] <cinex> install windows
[16:42] <cinex> get all your data inside windows
[16:42] <cinex> then start paritioning logical paritions for the rest of the operating systems
[16:42] <cinex> then install them
[16:42] <cinex> or even
[16:43] <cinex> get the installers to configure the disk
[16:43] <shadeslayer> cinex: lol... how do i transfer 200 GB of data on a 60 GB partition?
[16:43] <cinex> what version of windows?
[16:43] <cinex> vista?
[16:43] <cinex> windows will let you shrink the partition and linux installers will let you parition from the end to front
[16:44] <cinex> so you could build your disk backwards
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yeah hold on
[16:44] <cinex> if its xp your installing you will need to use partition magic to shrink it
[16:44] <shadeslayer> cinex: i havevista
[16:44] <cinex> but, to juggle 200GB of data is very brave and you should consider a new disk
[16:44] <cinex> this, in my experience, goes wrong
[16:45] <shadeslayer> and woh yah
[16:45] <cinex> vista will let u shrink the parition whilst it is running
[16:45] <shadeslayer> i killed ubiquity as soon as it wrote out the partition table
[16:45] <cinex> on the fly
[16:45] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:45] <daskreech> cinex: I use status.net
[16:45] <cinex> where will the 200GB of data finaly be ?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> cinex: posting a imagebin
[16:46] <cinex> and how big is your disk ?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> cinex: 320 GB : http://imagebin.ca/view/JF73c3.html
[16:47] <shadeslayer> and now lets reboot to see if everythings fine :P
[16:47] <shadeslayer> cya in a few secs
[16:48] <cinex> dnk, get a new disk
[16:49] <cinex> how do u expect to get 3 operating systems on that?
[16:49] <dNk> my wicd starts asking for root pass when i try to connect. it didn't before. anyone knows possible reason?
[16:52] <rolsworth> thinking about installing ubuntu again but the UI is terrible imo. the kubuntu UI is much better but the last time i tries it was buggy
[16:52] <rolsworth> is it better now?
[16:52] <cinex> shadeslayer: get a new disk
[16:52] <shadeslayer> cinex: apparently not :)
[16:52] <shadeslayer> cinex: i blew up my kubuntu install :P
[16:52] <cinex> too much data.
[16:53] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: whae was it?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> got to reinstall kubuntu :D
[16:53] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: when?
[16:53] <rolsworth> just after the new update back in october
[16:53] <cinex> shadeslayer: how did you fry it ?
[16:53] <cinex> maybe u can fix it ?
[16:53] <cinex> grub not found ?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> cinex:  cant find the kernel,drops to intrifams
[16:54] <shadeslayer> or whatever its called
[16:54] <cinex> you formated sda1 ?
[16:54] <EagleScreen> no major changes between 9.10 released in October and now, but it is not buggy for me
[16:54] <shadeslayer> cinex: nope,ubiquity started writing to my actual / too
[16:54] <cinex> oh ok
[16:54] <shadeslayer> apparently i wasnt quick enough :P
[16:54] <shadeslayer> cinex: maybe i can chroot into it and save somethings...
[16:55] <rolsworth> should i install ubuntu then install kde or just install ubuntu
[16:55] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: what bug did you find in Kubuntu?
[16:55] <cinex> rolsworth: if u want kde install kubuntu or you can do sudo apt-get install kubunut-desktop from within ubuntu
[16:56] <cinex> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:56] <rolsworth> what i don't get is why ubuntu get so much love and kde desktop is so much better
[16:56] <shadeslayer> cinex: nope... /proc and /sys nuked too :(
[16:56] <cinex> /proc is virtual
[16:56] <cinex> its not really there, I mean it is there but its created when u boot
[16:56] <cinex> i think
[16:57] <shadeslayer> cinex: no /bin/bash too :)
[16:57] <cinex> the kernel creates it
[16:57] <cinex> The Proc psuedo file system is a real time, memory resident file system
[16:57] <cinex> that tracks the processes running on your machine and the state of your
[16:57] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: I think Kuubntu 9.10 hasn'e important bug in its GUI
[16:57] <shadeslayer> the only regret ill have is that ill have to download git amarok
[16:57] <cinex> system. Read on to learn how to get the most out of the /proc file system.\
[16:57] <rolsworth> last question. is 64bit stable?
[16:57] <shadeslayer> all over again
[16:57] <shadeslayer> rolsworth: yeah
[16:58] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: less than 32 bits
[16:58] <rolsworth> maybe i should stick with 32bit then
[16:58] <rolsworth> i have 8gb in my pc
[16:58]  * shadeslayer thanks god that he exported his gpg keys just before this crisi
[16:58] <EagleScreen> yes may be you should
[16:58] <shadeslayer> *crisis
[16:59] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: 8 GB are enought, a Kubuntu fresh installation uses 2.2  GB
[17:00] <rolsworth> i was thinking about trying 64bit since i have so much ram
[17:00] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: if you like KDE and you find problems with Kubuntu, try OpenSuse out
[17:00] <rolsworth> but from what i hear ubuntu 64bit isn't that stable
[17:00] <EagleScreen> rolsworth: how much RAM?
[17:01] <rolsworth> 8gb
[17:01] <kubian> rolsworth: i've been using 64-bit for the last 4yrs
[17:02] <EagleScreen> you may use your 8 GB of RAM with 32 bits + kernel-PAE
[17:02] <EagleScreen> 64 bits is stable except for some few thinks
[17:02] <kubian> rolsworth: if u have 64-bit box cpu use 64-bit..much faster
[17:03] <caerbannog> anyone here uses omnibook drivers?
[17:03] <EagleScreen> for instance, flash is not very stable in 64 bits, and in general, there is still more software for 32 bits then for 64
[17:04] <kubian> EagleScreen: 64bit flash has been very stable for the past 2 years
[17:04] <EagleScreen> for instance, you can download Adobe packages for its website only for 32 bits, or flash package only for 32 bits, but you should find almost all in the repositories for 64 bits
[17:04] <caerbannog> well, at least 64 is actively developed, soon 32-bit platforms will be in the past, and 8bit=)
[17:04] <EagleScreen> kubian: it isn't yet for me
[17:06] <caerbannog> but now if u use 64 bit platform, there really still are some problems
[17:06] <EagleScreen> many libraries or software is not really prepared for 64 bits, like wine, flash... and you need to use and install the 32bits libraries too plus some wrapper in order to software work
[17:06] <kubian> EagleScreen: Adobe labs has 64-bit flash for the longest time. it uses the same code as 32-bit stable
[17:08] <EagleScreen> wine and many other studd need 32 bit libraries plus wrappers, and some day you may need a package for some third party application and find only 32 bits packages
[17:08] <shadeslayer> cinex: ok ive decided that im going to have a seprate /home
[17:09] <shadeslayer> cinex: ill be installing dev packages and stuff..
[17:09] <EagleScreen> but companies and developers only will be forced to develop for 64 bits architecture when users switch to 64 bits, if we never switch, they won't never be forced
[17:09] <shadeslayer> anyone who has some opinions?
[17:10] <kubian> shadeslayer: go aheadgo ahead
[17:10] <shadeslayer> kubian: i mean,what size should the partitions be :P
[17:11] <kubian> shadeslayer: i sue 10g for my root and then have about 20 for my home..or depends on how much you have and what you store in your home
[17:11] <kubian> *use
[17:12] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:12] <shadeslayer> looks goo
[17:12] <shadeslayer> d
[17:14] <shadeslayer> kubian: ext4 or ntfs for /home ?
[17:14] <EagleScreen> ext4, ntfs is not for /home
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:15] <EagleScreen> is not possible to use a ntfs for /home without a lot of problems
[17:15] <kubian> shadeslayer: you can even have separate large data partitions which you can link to your home/Music | Dowloads | Pictures | Documents
[17:15] <shadeslayer> ok im gonna quit now since i dont want the installer to hog my bandwidth :P
[17:16] <shadeslayer> bye and thanks :)
[17:26] <rcp> Hi all -- Where do I go to get some help with playing DVDs? (Kubuntu 9.10)
[17:33] <genii> !medibuntu | rcp
[17:35] <shadeslayer> i hate it when apt refreshes its cache for the first time :(
[17:42] <anirban-kde> Hello all, from India.
[17:43] <anirban-kde> Hello, anyone here?
[17:45] <anirban-kde> Hello, is there anybody here? I feel like the traveller in "The Listeners" Poem by Walter De La Mare
[17:45] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: whats the problem?
[17:45] <genii> anirban-kde: Best to just ask your question that you require assistance with
[17:45]  * shadeslayer just reinstalled kubuntu :P
[17:46] <anirban-kde> Sorry for shouting, to both of you. I was just checking whether anybody was listening or not.
[17:46] <shadeslayer> so anything re-producable on a fresh install :)
[17:46] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: theres always somebody around :P
[17:46] <anirban-kde> Thnaks Shadeslayer. The problem is related to KPPP.
[17:47] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: ah no idea with that unfourtunately...never had to use it
[17:47] <anirban-kde> See, I am running Wireless Internet on Photon Plus, a wireless Internet service in India. KPPP is a dialer in KDE, like GNOME-PPP,
[17:48] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: im from india :)
[17:48] <shadeslayer> +too
[17:48] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: and i think i know just the thing for you
[17:48] <anirban-kde> Great, nice to meet you, Shadeslayer.
[17:48] <anirban-kde> I am from Kolkata, West Bengal, may I know your State?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: there was article in Linux for you about this recently...
[17:49] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: im in Gurgaon,Haryana, checkout : www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg for all the info :P
[17:49] <genii> anirban-kde: This channel is for support... casual chat is more appropriate in the channel #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:49] <anirban-kde> Shadeslayer: About KPPP?
[17:49] <anirban-kde> Shadeslayer: Thanks
[17:49] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: about using photon plus
[17:49] <anirban-kde> Oh, thanks
[17:50] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: you have 9.10 right?
[17:50] <genii> So conceivably Photon Plus uses some USB adapter which behaves as a dial-in modem and it's not correctly working?
[17:50] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Sorry, but I have 9.04, not yet upgraded
[17:51] <shadeslayer> genii: well ive seen one of those devices adn its a plug and play USB modem and connects over cellphone towers
[17:51] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: found this : http://cityblogger.com/archives/2009/04/09/tata-indicom-photon-and-reliance-netconnect-broadband-on-ubuntu
[17:51] <anirban-kde> genii: No, it is running nicely,
[17:51] <anirban-kde> genii: But only under sudo command.
[17:51] <shadeslayer> ah,,,
[17:51] <genii> shadeslayer: Yes, we have these "Rocket Sticks" that Rogers Communications uses here.
[17:52] <shadeslayer> genii: hehe,rocket sticks.... unfourtunately reliance doesnt bundle any software for ubuntu ..
[17:52] <shadeslayer> oh found a official forum too...
[17:52] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: http://www.tataindicom.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-1792.html
[17:53] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Still, we can run both Reliance-Connector and Photon in Ubuntu, using wvdial and G-ppp or KPPP
[17:53] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: yeah i know about that :)
[17:54] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: unfortunately i didnt know about wvdial and KPPP when i introduced my freind to Kubuntu,so i couldnt get his net working :P
[17:54] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: :) Well then...
[17:54] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Oh, did you try Google search?
[17:54] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: I just found this entry a few weeks ago,
[17:55] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: yeah,but everything went over my head....
[17:55] <shadeslayer> fortunately he now has a proper wifi connection :)
[17:55] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Nice,
[17:55] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: anyways you were saying something about using sudo ?
[17:56] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Yes, the problem is that, only if I run "sudo kppp", it connects to the net, otherwise, it fails
[17:56] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: USing sudo all the time is risky, since it grants root-rights,
[17:57] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: hmm.. maybe because it requires proper access to the usb device?
[17:57] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: also please use kdesudo with gui apps
[17:57] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Actually, I configured the device, still it fails.
[17:57] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Thanks for the KDESUDO advice
[17:57] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: configured the device for what?
[17:58] <UK-DO> Hello ppl. When I use sudo pppoeconf in Kubuntu  it says nothing found; no modem found But when I start windows PPPoE is there and it's working. How am I gonna update without net :(
[17:58] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: I am using that for a few days
[17:59] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: For KPPP, setting the Modem to be /dev/ttyUSB0
[17:59] <anirban-kde> Then it works nicely, under "sudo" rights, :)
[18:00] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Anyway, this is not a problem, just requires to enter the password again and again, :)
[18:00] <UK-DO> I tried for bout 1/5 hour. Same drill over and over agin Ethernet cable=Checked, Is connected, ISP=checked network is working fine. What should I do to get it work
[18:00] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: ah thats why... /dev/X has to have root priviliges...
[18:00] <jay_> how do i put my card into monitor mode
[18:00] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Thanks, understood now,
[18:00] <shadeslayer> genii: any idea if we can change the priviliges under /dev/C
[18:01] <shadeslayer> i dont think so,but id like a second opinion
[18:01] <UK-DO> 1/2 hour*
[18:01] <anirban-kde> UK-DP: Try to use GNOME-PPP, and click "Setup", then detect device.
[18:02] <UK-DO> er is it available in Kubuntu ? or is it on Kubuntu CD ? or Do I need to download seperately
[18:02] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: you can download the .deb...
[18:02] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: and its available in the standard install too
[18:02] <UK-DO> Ok thanks I ll try that out
[18:02] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: um i just ran kppp and it asks for the pass straight away
[18:02] <anirban-kde> UK-DO: Need to download five other packages as well, including wvdial
[18:03] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: use getdeb.com
[18:03] <UK-DO> Thanks for that lead
[18:03] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: can you tell him the packages he needs?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> !getdeb | UK-DO
[18:04] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: its getdeb.net
[18:04] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Sure,
[18:05] <anirban-kde> Try http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/gnome-ppp/download
[18:06] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: um thats a very old link
[18:07] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Sorry, I just got it quickly
[18:08] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: use : alt+F2 > upkg:<package name> :
[18:08] <anirban-kde> UK-DO, the list of required packages in at http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gnome-ppp
[18:08] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Thanks, but mine is upgraded
[18:08] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: eh?
[18:08] <UK-DO> Thanks bout link I'm browsing getdeb.net but havent found gnome ppp
[18:09] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: ok look at the link anirban-kde just gave you,it has a download link at the botton
[18:09] <shadeslayer> *button
[18:10] <anirban-kde> Or, open Konsole, and try "sudo dpkg get-install gnome-ppp"
[18:10] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: So, which one do you like more, KDE or GNOME?
[18:11] <UK-DO> Thanks shadyslayer and anirban. Just one question are dependeciz also included in that deb package ?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: hehe.. KDE is better imo
[18:12] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: nope,youll have to download all the listed deps
[18:12] <UK-DO> ok thanks
[18:12] <anirban-kde> UK-DO, no, they are not. But if you use the Command I gave, then they will be installed automatically
[18:12] <shadeslayer> ok brb
[18:12] <anirban-kde> Shadeslayer: For me too, KDE is better, lol
[18:15] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Hello again,
[18:16] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: hey :),had just installed the nvidia drivers so had to restart X
[18:16] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: For me too, KDE is better,
[18:16] <UK-DO> Isnt there any setting that will let me adjust the boot prority ? I wish to load windows 1st rather than Kubuntu
[18:16] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Oh, quite nice,
[18:16] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: yeah you can do that
[18:16] <anirban-kde> UK-DO, use KGrubEditor
[18:17] <anirban-kde> UK-DO, then it will be easier
[18:17] <UK-DO> Thanks I will note that
[18:17] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: you have karmic or jaunty?
[18:18] <UK-DO> Karmic
[18:18] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: ah then that will not work
[18:18] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: kgrubeditor is only for grub 1
[18:18] <genii> anirban-kde: If the device behaves like a modem you could use the sudo pppconfig   command to set it up. Under advanced options in there you can add ppp users.
[18:19] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: for grub 2 youll need to manually set windows as the first boot option
[18:19] <anirban-kde> Right,
[18:19] <anirban-kde> genii: Thanks
[18:20] <anirban-kde> We have a Linux club here,
[18:20] <anirban-kde> There, a perso came yesterday,
[18:20] <anirban-kde> *person
[18:21] <anirban-kde> He told us, that his computer has been infected by a virus, (Linux),
[18:21] <anirban-kde> Then, we found that he accidentally ran forkbomb commands, which had frozen his machine
[18:21] <shadeslayer> anirban-kde: can we please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <anirban-kde> shadeslayer: Sure,
[18:23] <UnderWraps> where do I install grub, sda or sda1?
[18:23] <UnderWraps> sda1 will be root
[18:24] <shadeslayer> UnderWraps: sda
[18:24] <Mudassar> hello genius people, I got a USB and trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 from USB, it gives me error "can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs" Please help me it is my third day that I couldn't get Kubuntu 9.10 running
[18:25] <shadeslayer> UnderWraps: install at sda,for the whole drive
[18:25] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: ok how did you write to the USB?
[18:25] <UnderWraps> shadeslayer: what will happen if it's installed at sda1?
[18:25] <UnderWraps> shadeslayer: thanks
[18:26] <Mudassar> using UNetBootIn I created the USB iso
[18:27] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: please check the MD5 sum of the iso and re write the USB
[18:27] <shadeslayer> !md5sum | Mudassar
[18:28] <Guest11983> hello
[18:29] <Mudassar> it directly wrote it from UNetBootIn ... I was not given any md5
[18:30] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: hehe,you need to check the MD5SUM of the ISO you downloaded
[18:30] <Mudassar> i didn't download the ISO
[18:30] <Mudassar> UNetBootIn created the USB by downloading the ISO somewhere
[18:31] <Mudassar> please provide me step by step guide link that guide me from start to end
[18:31] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: ok i would suggest you torrent the ISO and point unetbooting to it
[18:31] <JuJuBee> I just reinstalled the OS on my server (gateway etc...) but cannot browse the web from anything in my room. I have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward set with a 1 in int and sysctl -p shows net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 and IPtables is set to allow all traffic for now.  What am I missing?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: ok step 1 ) Download kubuntu iso from www.kubuntu.org
[18:31] <shadeslayer> !download | Mudassar
[18:32] <Mudassar> shadeslayer: which iso should I download ?
[18:32] <Mudassar> CD Image ?
[18:32] <anirban-kde> Mudassar: yes,
[18:32] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: yes,if you have ram more than 3 GB use the 64 bit link
[18:33] <Mudassar> RAM is 1 GB
[18:33] <Mudassar> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download is this link fine?
[18:34] <Mudassar> and what about this check box "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer" ??
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: just use the live cd link please
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: and use the 32 bit download then
[18:35] <Mudassar> means I should check this box
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: no dont check that box
[18:35] <Mudassar> ok
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: ill give you a iso which when booted will give you a command line installer
[18:37] <Mudassar> I have started downloading it from that link
[18:37] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: ok good :)
[18:37] <Sakui> how can I get k3b to rip cd into mp3?
[18:37] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: read about how to MD5 sum a iso in windows please
[18:38] <Mudassar> please give me the link
[18:38] <shadeslayer> !md5sum > Mudassar
[18:39] <Mudassar> yes I got
[18:40] <kaddi> hi, i just got some major kde-updates and now after a reboot my config is completely broken
[18:40] <Mudassar> but where is the MD5 that is provided for this ISO file ?
[18:40] <trakinas> Solved!
[18:40] <kaddi> is there something i can fix
[18:41] <trakinas> I generated a daily report for those days that were missing and now I access them directly on the url if I want to see their traffic.
[18:42] <trakinas> the trouble is that my host split your logs (Im not on a dedicated server) every 2 days, so my files acces/erro.log and log.1 have only yesterday's and today's records. what I did was to tell the script to look into the old files (.2 beyond) and then generate a daily report.
[18:42] <trakinas> it generated a file like awstats01201024.txt for those missing days.
[18:42] <trakinas> for example, to access the reports for 24th, I add ?&databasebreak=day&day=24 after awstats.pl (in my case)
[18:44] <Mudassar> brothers, where can I get the md5 checksum for the kubuntu 9.10 that I am downloading ?
[18:45] <kaddi> I need help with my plasma-config. plasma-appletsrc is unchanged, but the widgets don't load
[18:46] <trakinas> Mudassar: if it is from bittorrent it usually comes with an extra txt.
[18:47] <UK-DO> Hello I need Gnome PPP so can get dep pkgs from hardy disk ? I have got few older versions of ububtu CDs
[18:50] <Sakui> how can I get k3b to rip cd into mp3?
[18:50] <shadeslayer>  UK-DO um didnt we already give you the packages?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Sakui: tools > RIP audio cd
[18:51] <UK-DO> Shadyslayer: Yes but one of em was missing so I needed to come back on windows
[18:51] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: ok well which one?
[18:51] <UK-DO> Libuniconf 4.4
[18:51] <Sakui> shadeslayer: it's not finding libmp3lame0
[18:51] <UK-DO> vwdial needs i
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Sakui: then install it :P
[18:52] <UK-DO> wvdial needs it*
[18:52] <Sakui> shadeslayer: it's installed
[18:52] <Mudassar> i have downloaded the ISO for kubuntu 9.10 and checked the checksum as well, it is correct. Now I need to create the USB iso so that I can install it from USB
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Sakui: hmm
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: use unetbootin,and specify the place where you downloaded the ISO
[18:53] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: one sec
[18:54] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: which version?
[18:54] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=Libuniconf&searchon=names
[18:54] <UK-DO> BRB I have got the libuniconf file fm ubuntu website so I wll install the wvdial and gnome ppp but just incase I'm missing anything else I'd like to use older disks of Ubuntu
[19:02] <Mudassar> while transfering the casper/filesystem.squashfs, it is taking much time. Is it the huge file ? or something else is there
[19:03] <UK-DO> Damn those dependency also need more dep pkgs
[19:04] <UK-DO> I think I'm better with Gnome desktop KDE already is kinda buggy :(
[19:04] <UK-DO> I guess I'll deinstall Kubuntu and reinstall 8.10 Ubuntu
[19:06] <Mudassar> why does casper/filesystem.squashfs take so much time ?
[19:06] <Mudassar> transferring into USB
[19:07] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: its a 650 MB file :)
[19:07] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: um didnt kpp run btw?
[19:08] <Mudassar> oh, that's why .......... but why does it take much time creating the ISO in the USB ?
[19:08] <UK-DO> KPPP dont detect modems
[19:08] <anirban-kde> It won't, directly
[19:08] <shadeslayer> Mudassar: you just have to be patient :)
[19:08] <Mudassar> :) ok
[19:09] <anirban-kde> You need to configure it to do so, so GNOME-PPP is better in this sense
[19:09] <Mudassar> brother Shadeslayer: I have heard that Kubuntu with KDE is a bit buggy, but I like the KDE environment .. what do you suggest me ?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: hmm well what i would do is try and instal gnome ppp and that should list all the deps,and download all of them one by one
[19:10] <kaddi> I need help with my plasma-config. plasma-appletsrc is unchanged, but the widgets don't load after the latest updates and a reboot
[19:11] <UK-DO> shadeslayer: I have used Ubuntu Live CD to establish a PPPoE bout a 6 months back but Kubuntu failed me even back then. But I just love KDE apps KDE browser and KTorrent and Amarok thats why I keep coming back to Kubuntu
[19:11] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: you can kee ubuntu and kubuntu side by side
[19:11] <shadeslayer> *keep
[19:12]  * dasen is back.
[19:13] <Mudassar> yes it is copying the file ... :)
[19:13] <UK-DO> Shdayslayer I'm getting dep pkgs for now and give it a last try b4 going back to Ubuntu :(
[19:18] <lavin> how do i put my card into moitor mode
[19:20] <kaddi> hi,is someone here that is able to help with a kde-desktop issue?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> kaddi: go ahead
[19:21] <kaddi> i applied all the latest updates and rebooted and now all my widgets are gone. the few things that are left are transparent
[19:22] <kaddi> I checked the plasma-appletsrc and it is unchanged since october
[19:22] <kaddi> i have karmic with the latest updates
[19:24] <shadeslayer> kaddi: i suggest you rename the .kde folder and relogin
[19:25] <lavin> i have just downloaded file RT3070_STA_Linux_v2.0.1.0.tar.zip how do i install it?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> kaddi: did you get my message?
[19:27] <kaddi> shadeslayer: will that bring back my config?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> kaddi: no that will make a new config
[19:28] <shadeslayer> kaddi: its probably that the old config file isnt compatible with the new packages
[19:28] <UK-DO> Finally and manual check for all dep pkgs is done I hope I'm not missing anything :\ Last try kubuntu :(
[19:28] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: one sec
[19:29] <kaddi> shadeslayer: so there is no way i can save my config?
[19:29] <UK-DO> I got all the dep pkgs shadyslayer double checked every single one of them manually
[19:29] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: try and install gnome ppa from a terminal and check the deps listed there,download the ones your missing
[19:29] <UK-DO> how do I donwload the missing ones if I dont have network running lolz
[19:29] <shadeslayer> kaddi: probably not
[19:30] <shadeslayer> UK-DO: switch to windows again :P
[19:30] <UK-DO> yes thats what I have been doing for past 3 hrs or so :(
[19:32] <kaddi> but all the taskbars are still transparent is that normal? can i change that?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> kaddi: can you do a pastebin?
[19:32] <kaddi> yes
[19:32] <kaddi> what?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> kaddi: i meant a imagebin
[19:35] <shadeslayer> kaddi: can you be quick.. im about to leave
[19:37] <kaddi> shadeslayer: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-4393380/Bildschirmfoto1.png.html
[19:37] <Sakui> how do you restart networking?
[19:41] <kaddi> shadeslayer: have you left already?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> kaddi: no
[19:41] <kaddi> ah :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> kaddi: the screenshot shows just the top?
[19:41] <kaddi> just curious, didn't want to hurry you
[19:42] <kaddi> no, it shows the entire screen
[19:42] <shadeslayer> kaddi: yeah i was keeping a eye on motu,devel,and classroom too :P
[19:42] <shadeslayer> kaddi: not here :)
[19:43] <kaddi> do you see the text "taskbar is transparent"?
[19:43] <kaddi> you have a preferred imagebin shadeslayer ?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> kaddi: yeah can you paste it on imagebin?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> net is extremely slow here
[19:45] <kaddi> imagebin.com?
[19:45] <kaddi> the picture is 500kb
[19:46] <shadeslayer> yea
[19:46] <kaddi> imagebin.org?
[19:46] <kaddi> you want me to reduce the picture size?
[19:48] <kaddi> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.org/82171
[19:48] <shadeslayer> and voila
[19:49] <shadeslayer> its loading just the last bit left
[19:49] <shadeslayer> kaddi: this is post renaming .kde?
[19:49] <kaddi> yes after renaming .kde
[19:50] <shadeslayer> kaddi: and you did a relogin right
[19:50] <kaddi> i did a reboot
[19:50] <kaddi> i think
[19:50] <shadeslayer> hmm..
[19:51] <kaddi> you want me to try again?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> kaddi: no need
[19:51] <shadeslayer> kaddi: do this : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:51] <shadeslayer> kaddi: also try and add a panel and see what happens
[19:51] <lavin> please someone help me if i download a file called 123_abc.tar.bz2 and its in my downloads folder what is my next move
[19:51] <compilerwriter> Ladies and gents.  I seem to have a firefox icon stuck in my panel.  I don't believe that firefox is still running.  How should I go about getting rid of the phantom icon?
[19:51] <kaddi> shadeslayer: to the taskbar or to the desltop in general
[19:52] <shadeslayer> kaddi: desktop in general
[19:53] <kaddi> shadeslayer: to the desktop works fine
[19:54] <compilerwriter> Also what causes these phantoms in the first place.
[19:54] <shadeslayer> kaddi: hmm.. ok best thing to do is install kubuntu-desktop,log out and login and if the problem persists,just remove the panel and add a new one
[19:55] <kaddi> shadeslayer: will do
[19:55] <kaddi> brb
[19:55] <shadeslayer> compilerwriter: press ctrl+alt+esc and click anywhere on the desktop,then press alt+F2 and type : plasma-desktop : hit enter
[19:55] <UK-DO> Heya Shdayslayer I did it :D
[19:56] <kaddi> shadeslayer: can you give me a command line command to log out, i don't see anything in the menu. or is it best to do a reboot
[19:56] <shadeslayer> kaddi: theres no logout button?
[19:56] <shadeslayer> ohmy
[19:56] <UK-DO> I m on 9..10 Kubuntu now. I hope next time they will add the Gnome PPP with Kubuntu and save me the trouble
[19:56] <kaddi> shadeslayer: there is, but it is transparent
[19:57] <kaddi> shadeslayer: and I'm not sure which of the transparents buttons to click
[19:57] <shadeslayer> kaddi: transperent like the panels?
[19:57] <kaddi> yes
[19:57] <kaddi> anyway I'll do a reboot
[19:57] <kaddi> brb
[19:58] <shadeslayer> sure
[19:58] <UK-DO> Thanks to all the ppl who helped me get my broadband started in Kubuntu :D
[20:00] <UK-DO-DONE> Heya ppl
[20:01] <UK-DO-DONE> can anyone here me ?
[20:03] <compilerwriter> thanks shadeslayer
[20:03] <UK-DO-DONE> Can anyone here me Plz reply if you do ?
[20:06] <genii> UK-DONE: We see you writing, yes
[20:06] <UK-DONE> Hello How what should I install very first after Kubuntu installations
[20:07] <shadeslayer> UK-DONE: kubuntu-restricted-extras imo
[20:08] <Sakui> system updates :P
[20:08] <shadeslayer> yeah those too :)
[20:09] <Sakui> why is my stupid kpackagekit just sitting there?
[20:09] <kaddi> shadeslayer: does installing kubuntu-desktop remove wicd?
[20:09] <kaddi> shadeslayer: reboot didn't fix my desktop problems but removed my internet client
[20:12] <shadeslayer> kaddi: yeah it removes wicd to accomodate for knetwork manager
[20:14] <kaddi> shadeslayer: but it seems knetwork manager still can't do wpa2... :/ that's not a problem, I'll reinstall wicd.
[20:14] <kaddi> shadeslayer: any idea what else i could try to get background color for my widgets back?
[20:15] <shadeslayer> kaddi: um.. nope
[20:15] <shadeslayer> kaddi: you could try to reconfigure kdebase,but no idea
[20:15] <UK-DO> Hi ppl what should I do very first after installation of Kubuntu
[20:16] <kaddi> shadeslayer: i also got a window from anakondi reconfiguring something on latest reboot, is that also related to installing kubuntu-desktop?
[20:16] <UK-DO> Shadyslayer: I finally solved the problem with Gnome PPP :D
[20:17] <tony32> anyone tell me what the use of a root password is?
[20:17] <kaddi> shadeslayer: do you think there's any use to ask for help in #kde or is this a ubuntu problem?
[20:17] <gorgonizer> kaddi: if your desktop is still as shown in the imagebin link above, it would appear that no Desktop Theme has been applied to your system... try setting one in System Settings -> Advanced User Settings -> Desktop Theme Details
[20:19] <shadeslayer> kaddi: you can ask in #kd
[20:21] <UK-DO> Someone plz quickly tell me the resolution for 4gotten password I cant remember what password I used in Windows Pidgin. Bow I can't access my IRC in Kubuntu :(
[20:21] <kaddi> gorgonizer: i changed the desktop theme to slim glow (it was air before) with no success. I had to customize one setting to be able to hit apply though
[20:22] <kaddi_> wicd is reinstalled :)
[20:23] <genii> UK-DO: Depending on what protocol it's for, have the originating place email you it.
[20:23] <Mudassar> Kubuntu 9.10 installed but keyboard mouse both are not working
[20:24] <gorgonizer> kaddi: changing the Panel Background should have helped (I would have thought), if that doesn't solve the issue, I am stumped.. :(
[20:24] <UK-DO> Its IRC can I deregister this nick forfreenode and reregister with diff nick. Only problem is that I 4got the password :(
[20:25] <UK-DO> or I dont need diff nick
[20:25] <Mudassar> kubuntu 9.10 successfully installed but keyboard mouse both are not working. please help
[20:27] <kaddi_> gorgonizer: it looks as if the changes aren't really applied.. i get a message that i have customized my settings, but nothing really changes.
[20:29] <genii> UK-DO: Some googling indicates Pidgin stores some info on *nix machines in: ~/.purple/accounts.xml     So if it works on your linux, you can *maybe* find it in there
[20:29] <miglo> hi! does someone use mlterm with enabled transparency?
[20:31] <Mudassar> help plz
[20:32] <miglo> I'm getting just a black background so the enabled transparency seems not to work
[20:33] <Mudassar> brothers, I am fed up fighting with Kubuntu for 3 days ...... just installed atlast, and now keyboard mouse are not working
[20:34] <WaltzingAlong> Mudassar: bravo
[20:34] <Mudassar> WaltzingAlong: can you help ?
[20:35] <WaltzingAlong> Mudassar: what indicates that your keyboard and mouse are not working?
[20:35] <Mudassar> I am stuck at login screen, neither I can move mouse nor can type anything
[20:36] <Mudassar> mouse was working fine when I booted first time
[20:36] <kaddi_> how can I do a complete clean install of kde?
[20:37] <Mudassar> it has took so much my time, now no more time on it ...
[20:37] <WaltzingAlong> Mudassar: ok
[20:38] <Mudassar> Please help brother
[20:39] <WaltzingAlong> Mudassar: continuing at this point is investing more time in it - which you no longer want; i can understand.
[20:39] <Mudassar> it has been three days I am wasting my time on it .. now it should work ..
[20:40] <tony32> greasemonkey FF addon is looking for kate so i can edit a script. where is kate located? i checked /usr/share
[20:40] <tony32> is there a directory in linux analagous to "program files"?
[20:40] <kaddi_> !puregnome
[20:41] <tony32> never! ubottu
[20:41] <tony32> i hate brown themes
[20:41] <WaltzingAlong> change the theme?
[20:41] <kaddi_> if I do a complete remove of kde is there any other config files than .kde I will loose?
[20:42] <WaltzingAlong> kaddi_: your home ~/.kde should stay with a purge/remove of the kde packages
[20:42] <kaddi_> with a purge as well?
[20:42] <kaddi_> does konversation get killed of in the process? :p
[20:42] <WaltzingAlong> ;) should not
[20:42] <kaddi_> k
[20:42] <kaddi_> lets go for it then :p
[20:43] <kaddi_> are there any config files outside of .kde? Meaning if I moved .kde and my problem persists is it not a config-problem
[20:43] <kaddi_> ?
[20:45] <gorgonizer> tony32: kate should be found in /usr/bin/
[20:46] <WaltzingAlong> kaddi_: your problem was that with kde4.4rc when you log in you receive a notification that the global shortcuts had been changed?
[20:46] <tony32> thanks, it was there. someone beat you first
[20:47] <kaddi_> WaltzingAlong: no it_s 4.3.5 I upgraded today though
[20:48] <WaltzingAlong> kaddi_: right so your kde settings are in ~/.kde and thus moving that (then logging in) should mean kde cannot find your old settings (in the moved .kde directory)
[20:49] <kaddi_> WaltzingAlong: I know, I have "default" settings right now, the ones automatically created on first login. But my taskbar is still transparent as is the menu from k-menu
[20:55] <KOPRajs> hi there, I've accidentally eleted some files in /usr/share/locale... I need to force package manager to reinstall affected packages but can't find out how... in Hardy there was Install/Remove/Reinstall but in Karmic I can see only Install/Remove options... command-line to reinstall a package withou removing first would be ok
[20:58] <WaltzingAlong> kaddi_: transparent as in 'with desktop effects'?
[20:58] <WaltzingAlong> KOPRajs: aptitude reinstall packagenamegoeshere
[21:00] <kaddi_> WaltzingAlong: i'm getting help in #kde as well by now. They asked the same thing. Disabling desktop-effects gives me background color= black and text-color=black.. So it has something to do with effects, but it's also screwed without them
[21:06] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[21:13] <Mudassar> how many people vote that Kubuntu 9.10 is stable?
[21:13] <Mudassar> keyboard mouse are not working .............
[21:18] <KjetilK> Mudassar, I never had that problem, but I had to use the latest KDE backports and make a manual backport of a package I found a serious bug in. With that, it is pretty stable
[21:18] <avihay> Mudassar: I'd vote for stable as long as you don't try to make it crash
[21:18] <KjetilK> but not right out of the box, no
[21:23] <phoenix_> i am voting that its stable
[21:24] <phoenix_> anyone tried lucid lynx
[21:27] <BluesKaj> yup, it's abit unstable right now if you run kde 4.4
[21:28] <phoenix_> how is the new ui improvements
[21:29] <tony32> i'm about to cry. i keep installing a file, it says it can't. then each time i try to install or or the other dvd programs, it removes others using apt-get
[21:29] <tony32> can't i have my cake and eat it too?
[21:29] <phoenix_> i think are not giving admin right to the program
[21:31] <tony32> yes, i am
[21:32] <phoenix_> it wont get installed unless you give admin previlages
[21:33] <lucitu> running lucid right now :)
[21:33] <phoenix_> how is the ui improvements
[21:33] <lucitu> awesome
[21:33] <phoenix_> anthing new you liked a lot
[21:34] <WaltzingAlong> phoenix_: you can play around with kde4.4rc without installing kubuntu 10.04
[21:34] <genii> Also..
[21:34] <genii> !lucid
[21:35] <phoenix_> i i know
[21:35] <genii> tony32: What exactly are you trying to install, and how?
[21:35] <phoenix_> waltz you mean live session
[21:36] <tony32> trying to install k9copy or anything that will backup a dvd
[21:36] <tony32> nothing's working
[21:36] <tony32> nvm, i seemed to have spoken too soon
[21:37] <genii> tony32: If you install the standard medibuntu repos according to the instructions on their site, K3B will rip
[21:37] <Alarm> why isnt it possible to add shadows on windows when using oxygen or ozone window decorators ?
[21:37] <phoenix_> k3b crashes for me
[21:37] <lucitu> so what is the codename for Kubuntu 10.04 ubottu?
[21:37] <phoenix_> may be you haven't enabled the desktop effects
[21:38] <Alarm> i did.
[21:38] <Alarm> when i use other window decorators (like plastic) i see them normaly
[21:40] <genii> lucitu: "<ubottu> Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1" Which, you were here when it said earlier.
[21:44] <kaddi> gorgonizer, Shadeslayer: the people in plasma got it fixed. Apparently it's not a problem with kde but with my intel drivers. running plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster instead of plain plasma-desktop fixed everything (or almost). In case you're curious :)
[21:45] <gorgonizer> kaddi: cheers for the info, was completely unaware of such an issue...
[21:45] <kaddi> me too.. but the pc has had a loooong history of kubuntu not working correctly because of drivers, so I'm not surprised :p
[21:45] <kaddi> *inteldrivers
[21:47] <lucitu> genii: can't you read the 'K'?
[21:48] <genii> lucitu: There are not separate names for Kubuntu or ubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu versions of 10.04. They are all Lucid Lynx
[21:48] <genii> lucitu: eg: Kubuntu 10.04 is Lucid Lynx with KDE desktop, etc
[21:49] <lucitu> genni: i know..but ubottu seems to tell us 'K'ubuntu 10.04 discussion is not here?
[21:51] <tony32> since when did ubuntu stop letting us play dvd's? we have to add medibuntu repo to do it, apparently
[21:51] <lucitu> genii: Lubuntu seems new.  what is it?
[21:52] <kaddi> tony32: that has always been the case, you need to install ubunte-extras-restricted
[21:53] <genii> lucitu: LXDE based desktop
[21:54] <genii> lucitu: Also, #ubuntu+1 is ALSO #kubuntu+1  :)
[21:54] <tony32> hmmm, it's not showing when i try apt-search
[21:54] <KOPRajs> how can I reinstall dpkg package?
[21:56] <genii> tony32: eg, in Konsole: sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[21:56] <tony32> i read at the ubuntu site it doesn't allow you to play encrypted dvd's even with the extras repo
[21:56] <genii> tony32: And then to install packages of libdvdcss2
[21:57] <tony32> genii, done it already and worked. it's what i was talking about. i don't recall having to do this before
[21:57] <Scunizi> tony32: the medibuntu repositories have the required library mentioned above by genii
[21:57] <tony32> yeah, got it working on k9copy. it was why it was crashing
[21:57] <Scunizi> tony32: it's because that library is not legal in some countries.. therefore Ubuntu won't offer it directly
[21:58] <genii> tony32: (K)ubuntu has never included dvd-playing stuff due to it's all proprietary stuff, thats why medibuntu way is used
[21:58] <tony32> ubuntu doesn't install libcss2 when installing k9copy. would be great to let us know, like with a popup saying, '...requires a proprietary codec, click here if you choose...."
[21:58] <aperson> in anyone's opinion, would kde be good on a netbook?
[21:59] <Scunizi> tony32: but it doesn't *require* it.. it's only needed when ripping commercial DRM protected dvd's
[21:59] <genii> aperson: I installed Kubuntu Netbook Remix on an Asus 1005HA, had no complaints over it
[21:59] <Scunizi> aperson: isn't there a netbook remix of kde?
[22:01] <aperson> apparently
[22:01] <tony32> Scunizi: yes, doesn't require. would be nice to know instead of just crashing with nothing. then again, that's the dev's fault
[22:01] <genii> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook
[22:01] <aperson> from what I'm reading though, it doesn't look to be complete
[22:02] <aperson> I'm currently running a pretty custom ubuntu install, but running kde intrigues me
[22:08] <phoenix_> i have problem with amarok. i am able to play music from my computer, but not from online sources like jamendo.com
[22:08] <BluesKaj> aperson, kubuntu-desktop can run alongside ubuntu-desktop , just choose at login
[22:09] <aperson> BluesKaj, give that this is a netbook, I doubt I have the space
[22:09] <aperson> plus, I don't want to futz with my good netbook image
[22:10] <aperson> I'm sure I'll entertain my curiosity one of these days
[22:10] <aperson> anyways, my questions are not of support, so I must sink back down to idling
[22:10] <BluesKaj> well, i run some gnome apps on my kde environment
[22:11] <aperson> that's entirely different than having two full de's installed :)
[22:12] <BluesKaj> how large is your partition ?
[22:12] <aperson> 4gb
[22:12] <BluesKaj> old notebook?
[22:12] <aperson> the first :)
[22:13] <aperson> asus eeepc 701
[22:13] <UK-DONE> Why do I get network not managed msg in Kubuntu ?
[22:13] <Scunizi> aperson: you could just install gnome or xfce4 without the full ubuntu-desktop
[22:13] <marcosRz> woot
[22:14] <marcosRz> did a cool non-official "hack" of a persona theme
[22:14] <marcosRz> what you guys think? http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6035/imagem3d.png
[22:14] <aperson> Scunizi, I know :)  as I said, I already have a pretty custom ubuntu install running
[22:14] <marcosRz> the top is the original, the bot is my modification and on the back is firefox running that theme
[22:14] <aperson> Scunizi, I'm just curious how well and if anyone else is running kde on a netbook
[22:14] <marcosRz> aperson: I'm
[22:15] <Scunizi> aperson: gotch ya
[22:15] <lucitu> UK-DONE: that's when u have somethng in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:16] <BluesKaj> aperson, you could always run a kubuntu live cd  to see what it's like
[22:16] <UK-DONE> How do I solve that problem lucitu ?
[22:17] <phoenix_> dont you feel hard to locate the title bar
[22:17] <marcosRz> anyone liked my modification?
[22:17] <marcosRz> :3
[22:17] <marcosRz> --> http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6035/imagem3d.png
[22:17] <marcosRz> the top is the original, the bot is my modification and on the back is firefox running that theme
[22:18] <savary> lol, so nice
[22:18] <UK-DONE> My network manager selects the unused ethernet adapter as active and ignores the used ethernet adpter insted :( What should I do to get it work yet again ?
[22:18] <aperson> I believe that to be a topic for another channel
[22:18] <marcosRz> savary: I wonder if the original author will let me upload on persona
[22:18] <marcosRz> @_@
[22:19] <phoenix_> your work is really appricaiatable
[22:20] <savary> maybe, you don't know
[22:20] <savary> ask him
[22:21] <tony32> UK-DONE, set the used on as default
[22:21] <marcosRz> I can't see a way to talk to him, no email on the page
[22:21] <marcosRz> -_-
[22:22] <savary> so, don't do anything and wait if he post it on persona
[22:22] <phoenix_> this is the amarok crash report. can anyone help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/364166/
[22:24] <marcosRz> savary: there no communication channel or whatsoever there
[22:24] <marcosRz> I think I'll just use myselv \o/
[22:24] <tony32> anyone know a way that i can mount a volume when clicking a mouse instead of it just giving me an error?
[22:25] <tony32> in dolphin, all i have to do is just click and input root password, but in the plasma desktop and such, it just errors
[22:26] <savary> it's another idea
[22:26] <tony32> actually, to correct that, even in dolphin, a subfolder errors out unless i click the drive, then it promps
[22:26] <tony32> then it will let me click that shortcut when i open in dolphin
[22:27] <savary> but it's a beautiful theme
[22:33] <mellhen> i would like to use kepas, is here anyone who s using it in kubuntu 9.10
[22:33] <anelia> helol
[22:33] <tony32> k/ubuntu should have a paid irc service, lol. i'd use it. would be a good way to fund it also
[22:33] <anelia> hi
[22:33] <anelia> what is this
[22:33] <anelia> ?
[22:34] <tony32> are you 12?
[22:34] <anelia> ne i am 22 f
[22:35] <tony32> was an inside joke. welcome to the magical and mysterious land called irc
[22:35] <anelia> my mom installed this i do not know what is it
[22:35] <tony32> it's kubuntu. it's an entirely free operating system
[22:35] <tony32> you're used to windows, this is different but can do just as much, usually
[22:36] <anelia> no i use normally gnome
[22:36] <anelia> my boyfriend installed this he refused to install windows on my pc
[22:36] <tony32> oh, then you're more used to it than i though. it's kde, better than gnome, imho
[22:36] <aperson> !ot
[22:37] <tony32> lol, good for him
[22:37] <tony32> i just converted from windows 7. both are great os's though
[22:38] <anelia> yes windows 7 looka like linux lol
[22:38] <ikonia> all, please check the topic of this channel as aperson has suggested please
[22:38] <anelia> sorry newbe here good night
[22:39] <ikonia> anelia: no problem
[22:39] <BluesKaj> W7 is a better version of XP :)
[22:39] <ikonia> BluesKaj: please stop
[22:41] <anelia> the only problem i faced is the impossibility to make the blutooth to work
[22:41] <UK-DONE> sudo vi /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf <<<<<<<<< Plz confirm it will work. I already tried couple of solutions which didnt work
[22:41] <ikonia> UK-DONE: what do you want to do ?
[22:41] <anelia> i tryed everything really the driver us not supported
[22:41] <UK-DONE> I'm having error network not managed
[22:41] <BluesKaj> ikonia, aww are you offended ..sorry ..it was just remark
[22:41] <ikonia> anelia: some bluetooth modules aren't supported on linux
[22:42] <ikonia> BluesKaj: not offended, but trying to keep the channel on topic
[22:42] <anelia> i will try , i know so i upgrade the next distribution may make it work
[22:42] <ikonia> UK-DONE: I'm not sure what you expect to achieve by vi'ing that file
[22:42] <UK-DONE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1028541
[22:43] <ikonia> UK-DONE: that's also a gnome config as I recall
[22:43] <BluesKaj> oh ikonia , you're the offtopic cop today :)
[22:43] <ikonia> UK-DONE: you can try that, it may or may not work, if you card is marked as unmanged then it should work
[22:44] <Alarm> why isnt it possible to add shadows on windows when using oxygen or ozone window decorators ?
[22:44] <Alarm> when i use other window decorators (like plastic) i see them normaly
[22:44] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, eth0 ?
[22:44] <UK-DONE> ikonia: I'm very tired of my net not working with Kubuntu :( So I need to do something
[22:44] <ikonia> Alarm: just a limitation of how they draw I guess
[22:44] <ikonia> UK-DONE: that file is file a gnome setting I think
[22:45] <ikonia> UK-DONE: it's not for kde
[22:45] <Alarm> ok. something else. i think that i used to see a blue glow around windows while using these window decorator. am i wrong ?
[22:45] <UK-DONE> But what is the solution for Kubuntu then ?
[22:45] <ikonia> UK-DONE: do you have any information in /etc/network/interfaces about your card ?
[22:45] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, I'm using /etc/network/interfaces with my ethernet connected desktop , works well
[22:46] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, or are you wifi ?
[22:46] <UK-DONE>  ikonia: Nope I dunno a thing I'm jus googling
[22:47] <UK-DONE> no I'm not WiFI I have PPP broadband
[22:47] <ikonia> UK-DONE: - can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces for me please
[22:47] <ikonia> UK-DONE: also what device name (eth0 for example) is the network card you're trying to manage
[22:48] <UK-DONE> yes ETH0 but I cant do anything with Kubuntu coz net just wot work :(
[22:48] <UK-DONE> I m on Windows ATM
[22:48] <ikonia> UK-DONE: ok, I need you to get that contents of that file for me
[22:49] <UK-DONE> ikonia:  /etc/network/interfaces ???
[22:49] <ikonia> UK-DONE: yes please
[22:50] <UK-DONE> ok I'll have to reboot again though :\
[22:50] <ikonia> no problem
[22:50] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, so you have a serial cable link to a modem ?
[22:51] <BluesKaj> or thru another computer/server to the internet
[22:52] <BluesKaj> oh well, PPP is adifferent setup than most...it's unusual nowadays
[22:53] <ikonia> BluesKaj: some cable modems still use it
[22:53] <BluesKaj> ikonia, obviously
[22:53] <ikonia> I mean as a device, not a protocol
[22:54] <ScoobyDoo> Anyone know how to convert a kommader .kmdr file to a executable file?
[22:55] <BluesKaj> well, IP is on the internet side
[22:55] <ikonia> ScoobyDoo: compile it ?
[22:55] <ikonia> .kmdr looks like a project file (I'm reading the docs as we speak)
[22:56] <ScoobyDoo> ikonia: I'm using it for some software, So you see when its on the net, I don't wan't people having to install kommader and then run it themselves
[22:57] <Alarm> any suggestions for a good eyecandy? anything :)
[22:57] <ikonia> Alarm: kde-look.org
[22:57] <ikonia> ScoobyDoo: yes, but that looks like a project file, have you read the docs on it ?
[22:57] <Alarm> i searched anything , thats why i asked in case i missed something hot :)
[22:57] <ikonia> Alarm: what I like you may hate, it's personal preference, just keep searching
[22:58] <ScoobyDoo> ikonia No actully lol, I'll have a search
[22:58] <ScoobyDoo> I know i know i'm so stupid
[22:58] <ikonia> http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdewebdev/kommander/index.html
[22:58] <Alarm> true
[22:58] <ikonia> I'm reading them now - they don't look bad
[23:10] <Alarm> when resizing my windows the respond is really slow. it goes like in frames
[23:11] <Alarm> i got a nvidia 8600 . should this happen ?
[23:11] <darthanubis> as soon as I start amarok on a clean 9.10 install flash sound stops
[23:11] <darthanubis> my obvious query is why?
[23:12] <darthanubis> my hardware works fine under default ubuntu 9.10
[23:13] <darthanubis> when I used to use KDe I came across this before and fixed it but don't have my links
[23:13] <darthanubis> and one with the link around to the fix?
[23:18] <UK-DONE> Hi I'm back which file did you ask for ?
[23:19] <APERSON> darthanubis, are you on 64 bit?
[23:20] <UK-DONE> Was it interfaces or nm-settings-system.conf ?
[23:21] <APERSON> UK-DONE, it helps to ask the person directly
[23:21] <UK-DONE> APERSON: I forgot the name of helper :(
[23:22] <darthanubis> APERSON: yes
[23:22] <APERSON> darthanubis, you're using 32 bit flash
[23:22] <darthanubis> like I siad I've done this before but can't remember
[23:22] <darthanubis> APERSON: no I'm not
[23:22] <APERSON> darthanubis, purge flashplugin-nonfree and and install 64bit flash
[23:23] <darthanubis> it is not install
[23:23] <darthanubis> I'm not a noob
[23:23] <APERSON> I never said that.
[23:23] <darthanubis> well I don't install 32bit apps in 64bit
[23:23] <APERSON> how did you install flash then?
[23:24] <darthanubis> the64bit plugin from Adobe
[23:24] <darthanubis> how else?
[23:24] <APERSON> that's what, not how
[23:24] <darthanubis> it aint much to it. 1.get unpack it to the plugin folder
[23:25] <APERSON> well, there are both automated and manual methods, I was curious as to which you used.
[23:26] <APERSON> what sound system are you using?
[23:26] <UK-DONE> Fresh query: How do solve unmanaged network problem ?
[23:26] <APERSON> UK-DONE, you were previously talking to BluesKaj and ikonia
[23:26] <APERSON> they might be of some help
[23:28] <UK-DONE> Those ppl are seem to be away from their PCs
[23:28] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, do you have a modem connected to your pc by a serial cable ?
[23:28] <UK-DONE> no have no idea :(
[23:29] <UK-DONE> I have ethernet adpater at my place that is it
[23:29] <UK-DONE> BluesKaj: Modem or Swich or whatever device might be far far awy at my ISPs
[23:30] <UK-DONE> auto lo
[23:30] <UK-DONE> iface lo inet loopback <<<<<<<<< Interfaces file
[23:31] <BluesKaj> ok UK-DONE , alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/network/ interfaces...copy and paste the text into pastebin
[23:31] <BluesKaj> !paste | UK-DONE
[23:32] <UK-DONE> Blues:Kaj http://paste.ubuntu.com/364194/
[23:32] <BluesKaj> UK-DONE, type ' route ' into your terminal
[23:33] <UK-DONE> BluesKaj Right now ? I'm on windows ATM
[23:33] <UK-DONE> My net wont work thats why I'm tryin to solve problem
[23:35] <UK-DONE> [ifupdown] managed=false <<<<<<< this is wat the root of the probs
[23:35] <BluesKaj> do you know your pc's IP address..it's differnt than your internet IP
[23:35] <ronaldo_> HI
[23:35] <UK-DONE> I have dynamic IP
[23:36] <UK-DONE> BluesKaj: Every single IP gets changed everyday even the LANone and Wan one
[23:36] <ronaldo_> anybody here from brazil?
[23:36] <BluesKaj> if you are behind a modem your pc has a static IP , the internet IP is dynamic
[23:37] <BluesKaj> sorry , gotta leave for a while ....dinner
[23:38] <ronaldo_> ok
[23:45] <UnderWraps> hi, I'm just reinstalling 9.10 and it rebooted to a grub prompt, what should I do now?
[23:55] <gorgonizer> Hello, I have KDE 4.4 RC2 installed, yet my system wants to install kdebase-4.3.5.. is this correct, or is the kdebase metapackage missing for 4.3.95?