[12:37] <luckyduck> what's the correct way in relationship with packaging to remove included (external) jars which are shipped with java apps? the policy says that the orig. tarball shouldnt be modified.
[12:38] <luckyduck> is this only related to the source? to save bandwidth and storage it would be nice to remove them before repackaging an zip to ...orig.tar.gz for example, isn't it?
[13:14] <nthykier> luckyduck: I usually remove external jars because then I ensure that the build does not use them (but system jars instead) and it saves me the trouble of documenting them in debian/copyright
[13:15] <nthykier> luckyduck: You can regard them as an "embedded" library (which the Debian Policy says you should remove from the orig.tar.gz as I recall)
[13:20] <luckyduck> ok, thx
[20:06] <kosnick> i am using jlist for the first time , is there any method that returns the current number of items in the list?