[01:30] <DrunkMonk> hey guys, thinking of setting up a mythbuntu box.. can you reccomend a good capture card, preferably one that can do HD?
[01:31] <superm1> DrunkMonk, have you already reviewed http://mythbuntu.org/requirements?
[01:31] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] System Requirements | Mythbuntu
[01:31] <superm1> a lot of us personally own silicon dust HD Home runs (which are mentioned on there)
[01:42] <DrunkMonk> super
[01:42] <DrunkMonk> yes, i read the requirements
[01:43] <DrunkMonk> and I kind of stumbled from there onto a freesat walkthrough in which they mentioned WinTV Nova-HD-S2
[01:45] <DrunkMonk> however, when I looked for that card on newegg.. or really.. anywhere.. i didnt get very far.. which is what lead me to you guys so that i could find out if there was a better alternative.
[01:47] <superm1> so the kicker with a lot of those cards is that you can only capture OTA or unencrypted QAM content
[01:48] <superm1> so if you want to capture say premium channels or anything else that your cable company is encrypting, you'll need an HDPVR which captures from your STB
[01:49] <cal_> how do i get mythbuntu to be controlled by the volume keys on my remote, rather than the OS controlling it directly? (ie, when i change volume, it works, but i dont see the volume indicator pop up on the mythtv screen)
[01:54] <DrunkMonk> gaaaahhhh.. man, well that pretty much kills it.. i was going to do dish network with this thing.. mainly some dish network HD..
[01:54] <DrunkMonk> it doesnt work if I hooked the output off my dish box to the card?
[01:56] <superm1> DrunkMonk, well so you can hook up your dish network STB  to the HDPVR
[01:56] <superm1> DrunkMonk, and things would work just dandy.  it grabs off the component output of the STB and encodes it into h264 files to spit back at the machine
[02:00] <DrunkMonk> ok, so I can plug the component out of the dish network box into the capture card?
[02:05] <superm1> yeah, go google the device and it will make a lot more sense
[02:13] <DrunkMonk> so this thing isnt really a capture card as much as it is a capture device..
[02:20] <mrand> DrunkMonk: you referring to the HDPVR?  Yes, you are correct... it isn't a card that goes within the PC.
[02:25] <DrunkMonk> maybe im looking at a different product then what was mentioned.. but I googled silicondust hdhomerun and it comes up with a physical box.. but definetley having issues finding info about going out from the box..
[02:28] <mrand> DrunkMonk: HDHomeRun from Silicondust sits on Ethernet
[02:28] <mrand> Lots of people rave about that box.   As was mentioned above, it is for clear-channel (non-encrypted).
[02:33] <DrunkMonk> just so im understanding.. from the satellite.. into the dish network receiver.. and from the dish network receiver into the back of the homerun HD? and it will record?
[02:36] <mrand> DrunkMonk: If you want to keep using your dish receiver, you want the HDPVR that superm mentioned above (not the HDhomerun)
[03:46] <rhpot1991> DrunkMonk: HDHR can only do clear qam and astc, so cable and antenna
[03:46] <rhpot1991> wont help you at all with a dish
[04:07] <DrunkMonk> really.. i mean, im not coming directly from wall, to hdhr.. i would go from wall to dish network box, and out of the dish network box into the hdhr..
[04:07] <DrunkMonk> maybe I dont quite understand yet, thanks for your guys` help tho
[04:13] <mrand> DrunkMonk: What we are saying is that the output of the dish network box is not "compatible" with the HDHR.   You need the HDPVR instead.
[04:29] <DrunkMonk> ok, thanks for simplifying it for me
[04:39] <DrunkMonk> i feel like a real dumbass..  ha, i thought you guys were saying I had to sign up for the HDPVR service or get a different dish network box, I understand now.
[04:43] <DrunkMonk> would an HDMI capture card do the same thing?
[04:46] <mrand> DrunkMonk: there are only one or two HDMI capture devices, and they product very high bandwidth streams... and they are quite expensive.  And I've not seen anyone talking about getting one to work with mythtv.  no-one would advise you to go that route.
[04:47] <DrunkMonk> ahhh.. very cool.. ok, so the down and dirty of this is the HDPVR is the way to go
[04:57] <mrand> DrunkMonk: assuming that your dish network box has component video outputs (which most do), yes, absolutely.
[05:22] <DrunkMonk> yea.. it has component out
[05:22] <DrunkMonk> its too bad the HDPVR doesnt do HDMI
[05:25] <mrand> DrunkMonk: Indeed.  There is all sorts of licensing that would go along with HDMI decoding (HDCP) that I would not be surprised if they had wanted to avoid.  While HDMI is probably slightly better, everyone appears to be very, very happy with the quality of component video.
[05:25] <DrunkMonk> yea, you knoe mrand.. i guess i kind of bought into the hype a bit..
[05:25] <DrunkMonk> im reading component can do 1080p..
[05:25] <mrand> yep
[05:26] <DrunkMonk> pretty rad.. i thought it was 720 only
[05:26] <mrand> Of course, much of the content out there is only 1080i rather than 1080p.
[05:26] <mrand> But still better than standard def
[05:26] <DrunkMonk> right right
[05:26] <DrunkMonk> oh yea, definetley..
[05:26] <DrunkMonk> i just got my first hdtv.. and im hooked.. i want everything in 1080
[05:27] <DrunkMonk> i currently pay for tivo.. so im trying to find a way to circumvent having a monthly fee to record what I already pay for
[05:28] <mrand> Ouch - yeah, paying twice isn't much fun.
[05:28] <mrand> 2 week scheduling for MythTV can be had for only $20 a year.
[05:28] <mrand> (in the US with schedules direct)
[05:28] <DrunkMonk> oh, see.. i thought it was all free as far as scheduling
[05:29] <DrunkMonk> i thought it just downloaded the dish network schedule
[05:30] <mrand> DrunkMonk: that almost certainly be done, and I wouldn't be surprised if people have done it... but that type of thing is typically done using a web scraper (unless they have an xml or some other standardized scheduling feed that they provide).  Web scrapers tend to be unreliable.
[05:34] <DrunkMonk> ahhh
[05:34] <DrunkMonk> i see, man, i just setup an XBMC box..
[05:35] <DrunkMonk> im digging it.. I have a nvidia card.. so I can do the VDPAU
[05:35] <DrunkMonk> pretty rad too.. id love to join it with some dish network recording
[05:35] <DrunkMonk> damn, that hdpvr is $200..
[05:35] <Zinn> DrunkMonk: Please watch your language.
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> ?
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> what
[05:36] <mrand> I've not used it, but I've heard it has a very nice UI.  They have preliminary support for mythtv actually.
[05:36] <mrand> DrunkMonk: ignore Zinn... he's a bot.
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> oh, alright
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> i was gonna say
[05:36] <dunnydann> Damn bots
[05:36] <Zinn> dunnydann: Please watch your language.
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> i hear worse on channel 7 news
[05:36] <DrunkMonk> ha, oh
[05:36] <dunnydann> :)
[05:38] <DrunkMonk> it was between mediaportal and xbmc.. anyways.. im thinking pair the xbmc with some mythbuntu in a different room.. could be pretty cool
[05:41] <dunnydann> Mythbuntu and boxee seem to run nice together
[05:42] <dunnydann> Use myth for cable/dvr and boxee for everything else
[10:12] <lieuwe> hi, i mannaged to fubar the instalation somehow, the after-install wizzard hasn't run and now the system wont work...
[21:11] <balachmar> Hi, I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. However the automatic upgrade of the database does not seem to work.
[21:34] <gizmobay> balachmar, what happens if you start the BE in a terminal window?
[21:37] <balachmar> @gizmobay: http://pastebin.com/m73398491
[21:37] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] pastebin - collaborative debugging tool
[21:41] <rhpot1991> balachmar: so repair the broken table?
[21:41] <rhpot1991> you can do so in phpmyadmin, or in mythweb if its still accessible
[21:42] <balachmar> mythweb is accessible however it is unable to connect to the master backend at 127.0.0.1:6543
[21:43] <balachmar> Will running the optimize script also work?
[21:43] <gregl> mysqlcheck -u root -p  --repair mythconverg
[21:44] <gregl> try that
[21:44] <gizmobay> mysqlcheck -umythtv -p --repair mythconverg
[21:44] <gizmobay> gregl beat me to it
[21:44] <gizmobay> lol
[21:44] <gregl> hehehe
[21:46] <balachmar> ok, seems to be working now! (you guys are great!)
[21:47] <balachmar> will reboot now.
[21:47] <gregl> I have needed that command a few times. Save it for future reference..
[21:47] <mrand> gizmobay, gregl: thanks for chipping in!
[21:48] <gregl> np
[22:10] <gizmobay> np
[23:56] <sender> hi all, i am looking for a plugin to convert recordings to a lighter format, e.g. DivX? Something like Export, but not targeted at mobile. Any ideas?
[23:57] <foxbuntu> sender, export can be configured to anything you want
[23:57] <foxbuntu> sender, the defaults are just setup for mobile devices
[23:58] <sender> foxbuntu: thanx: would that be selecting a type of encoding?
[23:59] <sender> foxbuntu: isn't mythtranscode the way? it seemed somewhat limited