[00:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hallo. Anybody home?
[00:36] <knome> sure.
[00:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello..I have a problem with my printer (HP PSC 1315) in Xubuntu.
[00:37] <knome> !ask | Sachse_Siechtum
[00:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I'm not sure if it is hardware or software related
[00:39] <knome> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1310
[00:39] <knome> and http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1315
[00:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> I tried to print a test page in Xubuntu...the printer took in half of the paper, made some noise and stopped. now I have a blinking "printer cartridge" light and a "E" where normally the number is showing...
[00:40] <knome> maybe the paper is stuck?
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> no.
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> once today
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I was in Windows XP
[00:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> I switched the printer on. (had no drivers installed)
[00:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> in that moment, the printer was printing the test page
[00:41] <knome> i take you have installed the hpijs driver?
[00:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> after that I tried to print the test page again in Xubuntu (the install of the hplip drivers went fine)
[00:41] <knome> (or the hplip)
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> and CUP
[00:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> CUPS
[00:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> I gonna buy a new B/W cartridge this week... I guess, my current one is too old.
[00:43] <knome> http://localhost:631/ - have you tried managing the printer there?
[00:44] <knome> or ran 'hp-setup' ?
[00:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> I have the localhost site open, but didnt look into it yet
[00:45] <knome> i have very limited experience of linux printing, but i suppose those would be good starting points, since the printer is supposed to work at least mostly
[00:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> the software finds the printer alright but my main problem is, that I cant reset the printer of that "error state"
[00:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> can't
[00:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> alright thanks for the help. Bye
[03:33] <ouyes> hi  how can i add a shortcut for terminal in xfce?
[05:39] <Neo|Desktop> hey everybody
[05:39] <Neo|Desktop> i have a rather quick question
[05:40] <Neo|Desktop> how do I enable the searching of other mountable drives
[05:40] <Neo|Desktop> from xfce's gui
[05:40] <Neo|Desktop> that crappy gnome feature was actually useful, heh
[05:41] <cody-somerville> Not sure what feature you're referring to.
[05:41] <Neo|Desktop> in regular ubuntu, it shows all mountiable partitions in the file manager
[05:41] <Neo|Desktop> **mountable
[05:42] <Neo|Desktop> i'm not getting that here in xfce
[05:53] <tavasti> Neo|Desktop, on filemanager, File->Preferences and there Advanced tab, enable volume management
[06:54] <Neo|Desktop> tavasti: it would appear that that is enabled
[06:57] <Neo|Desktop> tavasti: and the block devices /dev/sda1(-4) are also there
[06:57] <Neo|Desktop> i just like the easy mounting thing, heh
[07:11] <tavasti> aren't those already mounted?
[07:11] <tavasti> that volume management is for removable devices, I suppose
[07:12] <tavasti> (but I'm not at my best with gui-things, I use command line mostly)
[07:16] <Neo|Desktop> ah thanks for your help tavasti, idk myself, i think i may just have to add those entried into my fstab, hehe
[07:18] <tavasti> I think installer puts there those entries
[07:23] <Neo|Desktop> mm, well thanks for all yoru help :)
[09:08] <ouyes> i am trying to change from gnome to xfce, but it is hard, i am now getting used to gnome now
[09:22] <tavasti> what makes it so hard?
[09:25] <ouyes> for example i run alt+f2 write gconf-edit but there came out an error
[09:25] <Myrtti> ouyes: gconf-edit isn't installed by default, IIRC
[09:26] <ouyes> also i want to add a keyboard shortcut for a terminal(i know right button of the mouse) ,i can not find the way
[09:26] <Sysi> and i'd guess it's ment for configuring gnome
[09:26] <Sysi> settings → keyboard
[09:26] <ouyes> Myrtti,  what is IIRC and idk for short?
[09:26] <Sysi> if i remember correctly and i don't know
[09:27] <ouyes> yes you are right , i am a man trying to change from gnome to xfce
[09:28] <ouyes> Sysi, you have a good memory, but what is the command to run a terminal ?
[09:29] <Sysi> xfce4-terminal
[09:32] <ouyes> Myrtti,  so what can i do if i want to and some language support in the document and for office applications?
[09:32] <Myrtti> ouyes: the same you'd do in Ubuntu and Gnome, I suppose, install language additions. Depending on what applications you're using
[09:33] <ouyes> is there any place in the web(wiki) tell people how to make a setting for a newly installed xubuntu
[09:34] <ouyes> what is the most advantage of xfce make you chose it ?
[09:35] <Myrtti> less stuff to uninstall and ignore
[09:36] <tavasti> ouyes, I use xubuntu because I like it better than gnome
[09:38] <ouyes> also, the starting time is shorter
[11:03] <slackaholic> hi mans
[11:03] <slackaholic> my wifi is not finding passwd protected networks, just the opened... how can i solve it?
[11:04] <slackaholic> i'm using ndiswrapper
[11:08] <teilnehmer> slackaholic: It seems to be a bug in ndiswrapper since 9.04.
[11:08] <teilnehmer> See here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/459716
[11:09] <slackaholic> so... without it i cant find any network
[11:09] <teilnehmer> A claimed solution can be found at
[11:09] <teilnehmer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8426311
[11:12] <teilnehmer> I'm sorry but I can't help you further, I know nothing about ndiswrapper, I just found the bug report.
[11:14] <teilnehmer> slackaholic: Possibly there is an alternate way to establish a connection (instead of nndiswrapper)
[11:15] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, which chipset do you have?
[11:26] <slackaholic> wait a minute i will get the name
[11:27] <slackaholic> acording lspci: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> why are you using ndiswrapper? lol that's very unusual
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> that chipset is supported natively
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> actually, just to make sure do lspci -nn and paste the vid:pid here
[11:30] <slackaholic> firstly it was working good...
[11:30] <slackaholic> but after... couldnt find any ntwork
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> with ndiswrapper?
[11:41] <slackaholic> lspci -nn result --> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[11:42] <slackaholic> ndiswrapper 1.9
[11:53] <z0man>  After getting a friend into Xubuntu (8.04), everything seems to hanky dorary until now... Xubuntu moans about "Low Graphics mode" and the DRI failed to initalize.  Is this because of a recent update?
[11:54] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, which kernel version are you on?
[11:55] <slackaholic> psycho_oreos, 2.6.31-17-generic
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, best to use ath5k imo
[11:56] <z0man> eemga(0)(ee)
[11:56]  * z0man googles
[11:57] <z0man> awww
[11:57] <slackaholic> wooooww it's solved...
[11:57] <slackaholic> hahahhahha
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> z0man, no idea, you did distro upgrade?
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, ._. whilst on ndiswrapper?
[11:58] <z0man> don't worry about me seriously for now. hehe
[11:58] <slackaholic> thanks guy
[11:58] <z0man> it's something that isn't easy for me to diagnose and help, as the machine is else where
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> z0man, was about to say, I personally never liked distro upgrades
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, so how did you solve it lol
[11:58] <z0man> I don't believe he did do a distro upgrade.
[11:58] <slackaholic> rmmod ndis...
[11:58] <slackaholic> modprobe ath5k
[11:59] <slackaholic> xD
[11:59] <z0man> He doesn't like changing anything much.
[11:59] <slackaholic> now i just have to blackllist ndis doesnt it?
[11:59] <z0man> i wonder if he did try it....
[12:00] <z0man> I have done distro upgrades and yes you neeed to know what you doing to fix any issues that pop up
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, probably ideal, btw if you're still having issues with ath5k (which can happen) I suggest you check dmesg| tail
[12:01] <slackaholic> psycho_oreos, ok
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> ath5k is constantly getting addressed to and if issues come up you may need to try backports or compat-wireless, etc
[12:01] <slackaholic> psycho_oreos, i would like to use slack based distro... but it was always entering in kernel panic....
[12:01] <slackaholic> psycho_oreos, and i dont like gnome... i prefere kde and xfce
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> z0man, its a pain in the bum generally, I've done dist upgrade once and that taught me enough not to ever bother with it again
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> slackaholic, lol well there's xubuntu as you are here and kubuntu :)
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> and yeah slack isn't easy, its a bit like gentoo except gentoo bit more insane imo
[12:02] <slackaholic> i'm using xfce because it's a netbook
[12:03] <slackaholic> lighter than kde
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> I'm using xfce on my best computer :)
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> there's also lxde and enlightment you may want to try
[12:03] <slackaholic> yeap i tested it once when i installed ubuntu in this netbook
[12:04] <slackaholic> i think that i will just use it in this netbook
[12:04] <slackaholic> a was so worried because i'm just with this netbook...i'm in a conference
[12:04] <z0man> think i may have found the problem
[12:04] <slackaholic> i'm from brazil
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> ah
[12:05] <slackaholic> i'm at campus party
[12:05] <psycho_oreos> so you're doing linux install on the go? lol
[12:05] <slackaholic> xD
[12:05] <slackaholic> i installed xubuntu likea emergenci distro... but i liked it
[12:05] <slackaholic> xD
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> its quite addictive and ubuntu isn't some small distro either :)
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> in other words, theres almost always support when you needed it, so its not like you're going to get stuck :)
[12:07] <z0man> think I will get the guy to do this... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/33352
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> z0man, would you happen to know which graphics chipset he has?
[12:08] <z0man> very old stuff...
[12:09] <z0man> hmmm me checks docs
[12:09] <z0man> Found that only 8.04 worked with his system see
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> hope its not intel, intel graphics cards can be a real headache when you demand extensive eyecandy ui stuff
[12:09] <Hawkal> Is there anyway to repair or restore xubuntu without having to do a reinstall?
[12:09] <z0man> Yet I haven't been round since 9.10
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> depends on the repairs needed to be done
[12:10] <z0man> Well I been bothered since the release of 9.10
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> z0man, I'm still on 9.04 :) not going to fly on 9.10 with flawed ext4
[12:10] <z0man> im on 9.10 ^^
[12:11] <z0man> I heard about that new one and pondered... aw hell :)
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> it is nice and all, but there's a bug with ext4 in their release notes along with a few other things they've outlined that sort of ticks me.. so I'm going to hold out for lucid
[12:11] <z0man> Yet I'm only using ext3
[12:13] <z0man> SiS super AGP graphics controller (on SiS 620 Host chip) with 4 MB of video memory (upgradeable to 8MB)
[12:13] <z0man> old see :P
[12:14] <z0man> I have a small feeling some update may be to with the blame
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> Hawkal, ahh not that I know no
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> z0man, well there's users flooding in the other support channel... ubuntu channel actually, with that issue, and there was a link I found not long ago about it
[12:15] <z0man> really?!
[12:15] <z0man> hmmm
[12:15] <z0man> would you mind looking for that link?
[12:15] <Hawkal> psycho_oreos, okay thank you anyway.
[12:15]  * z0man feels like he wants to hug psycho_oreos
[12:15] <teilnehmer> Hawkal, depending on what problems you have, you might want to try creating a new user, which will have an empty home directory, thus resetting everything that was changed through settings in there.
[12:16] <teilnehmer> This doesn't include upgrades or similar stuff, though. In that case, reinstalling (but keeping the home directory) would be the way to go, IMO.
[12:16] <Hawkal> teilnehmer, thank you I had not thought of that.
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> Hawkal, couldn't be of much help I'm afraid, because a person is capable of setting anything, and with access to root account via sudo, the amount is endless
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> z0man, no guarantees though :)
[12:17] <teilnehmer> Hawkal, you are welcome. Hope it helps.
[12:17] <z0man> thats ok
[12:17] <z0man> It's another clue worth trying
[12:18] <Hawkal> psycho_oreos, that is okay, I am grateful for any help or response.
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> z0man, http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net/~linux-sis/
[12:19] <z0man> thank you :)
[12:19] <teilnehmer> Hawkal: I fixed a terribly broken desktop that way once. Was what I got from keeping the ~/.kde (when I ran kubuntu) when I upgraded to 9.10
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> Hawkal, :)
[12:23] <Hawkal> teilnehmer, good to know it is an effective way ti fix things.
[12:23] <Hawkal> *to
[12:25] <teilnehmer> Hawkal: depends on what to fix. Let us know if it worked  for you!
[12:30] <Hawkal> teilnehmer, true .
[12:31] <Hawkal> Thanks for the help guys
[14:21] <Pres-Gas> Hey, charlie-tca
[20:13] <ubuntu> Having a spot of bother Xubuntu.  It moans of "Low Graphics Mode" and I have tried all the options in the GUI.  Also I have tried mounting the liveCD and cop
[20:13] <ubuntu> copied the xorg.conf from the liveCD boot to the installed the system with no success
[20:14] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> go into a tty, make sure ~/.dmrc and .ICEauthority are owned by the user and not by root
[20:27] <ubuntu> ok
[20:28] <ubuntu> this is the "users" folder?
[20:28] <ubuntu> /home/user?
[20:29] <ubuntu> .ICEauthority is not in the home directory
[20:30] <ubuntu> not in the home folder of the user
[20:31] <charlie-tca> They are hidden files
[20:31] <charlie-tca> Are in a terminal or thunar?
[20:31] <ubuntu> I have ticked @Show hidden files
[20:31] <ubuntu> in thunar
[20:31] <charlie-tca> should be towards the bottom of the listing in /home/USER/
[20:32] <ubuntu> ah its file?
[20:32] <ubuntu> ok it's owned by user
[20:32] <charlie-tca> yes, it is a file
[20:32] <ubuntu> and it has @read and Write
[20:32] <charlie-tca> Well, used up my ideas, then
[20:32] <ubuntu> @Owner = 1000
[20:32] <ubuntu> hmmm
[20:33] <ubuntu> thx anyway
[20:33] <charlie-tca> owner should be a name? instead of the gid
[20:33] <charlie-tca> s/gid/uid
[20:34] <lc2> hm
[20:34] <lc2> grep yourusername /etc/passwd
[20:35] <lc2> make sure the id is 1000, because as charlie-tca said, that is odd
[20:35] <lc2> third field, separated by colons
[20:37] <ubuntu> found an xorg.conf.new in the root of the file system
[20:37] <ubuntu> gonna try that one and then get back to u
[21:05] <lc2> gnomefreak: heretic! :P
[21:05] <gnomefreak> :)
[21:20] <_blink_> hey can someone tell me how to execute python files in xubuntu?
[21:22] <Sysi> in terminal: python <file>
[21:22] <Sysi> iirc
[21:22] <lc2> yes
[21:25] <_blink_> python filename.py
[21:25] <_blink_> thats it
[21:25] <Sysi> or you can add one line in top of file and just run it
[21:25] <lc2> #!/usr/bin/python
[21:26] <lc2> then "chmod 755 file.py" sans quotes
[21:26] <lc2> then you can just path/to/file.py or ./file.py if it's in your current working directory
[21:27] <lc2> in unrelated news, i'm doing another ubuntu install for a computer noob (not just a linux noob) tomorrow
[21:27] <lc2> feels good man
[21:29] <_blink_> Thanks people :)
[21:29] <_blink_> I have alot to learn
[21:30] <lc2> _blink_: we all did
[21:30]  * lc2 remembers the big "wtf" when he installed debian in 1998.
[21:31] <lc2> _blink_: but yeah, there's a trick you might not have guessed, the hashbang line, change that to any interpreter and set the file to executable and it'll be treated just like a binary is
[21:40] <lc2> okay so here's an interesting question
[21:40] <lc2> i'm running cairo-dock (because i want everyone to think i'm rich enough to run a mac)
[21:40] <lc2> (not entirely serious there, but i like cairo-dock)
[21:41] <lc2> i have it running automatically on startup, if i exit xubuntu and hit "save session" then it'll apparently see that cairo-dock is running and then load that on startup next time
[21:41] <lc2> but since i already have it loaded automatically, that means i get two cairo-docks
[21:42] <lc2> is there some way of telling xfce (or any of the lower-level programs) that a certain program should *never* be automatically restarted?
[21:46] <lc2> correction: i *think* it does it when i hit "save session", but i noticed it when i hit "reboot" from the update manager
[21:50] <lc2> (which, presumably, saves the session)
[22:06] <ubuntu> Struggling to add this xrandr
[22:06] <ubuntu> been reading up on this as for some reason xorg does not detect the settings for SiS chip anymore
[22:06] <ubuntu> Here is what I have been reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions
[22:07] <ubuntu> And to make my xrandr perminant I need to add it too
[22:07] <ubuntu> /etc/gdm/Init/Default
[22:07] <ubuntu> Just before the line...
[22:07] <ubuntu> initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm
[22:07] <ubuntu> And it is not there
[22:08] <lc2> mmm. :\
[22:09] <ubuntu> The current chip set is a SiS 630 and it does not seem to be auto detecting the install system any more
[22:10] <ubuntu> Yet the liveCD does... So I figured something majorly has changed with the xorg
[22:17] <lc2> i'd help you but i don't know anything about that
[22:18] <ubuntu> thanks for reading at least ^^
[22:19] <lc2> yeah i just didn't want to think you were being ignored :)
[22:21] <ubuntu> {{{lc2}}}
[22:21] <lc2> {{{ubuntu}}}
[22:23] <ubuntu> going to try and change the xorg.conf instead
[22:25] <lc2> mm good luck