[01:00] <sbalneav> Is it just me, or has Firefox quit working in lucid? :(
[01:00] <stgraber> well, that's called firefox 3.6
[01:00] <stgraber> ...
[01:00] <stgraber> I'm running google chrome at the moment so it's not disturbing me that much though
[01:01] <sbalneav> So, it's a known issue?
[01:02] <sbalneav> so, if I rm -rf mozilla, it comes up
[01:03] <sbalneav> then if I quit, and re-start, it won't come up until I rm -rf mozilla again
[01:03] <sbalneav> that's.... pretty broken
[01:26] <sbalneav> urg.  Veeeeery frustrating
[08:07] <vmlintu> joerg: I'm working on the script
[13:14] <joerg> vmlintu, cool....give me the link when it is finished....thx :)
[14:23] <alkisg> !info libnss3-1d jaunty
[15:18] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:47] <Ahmuck> can we get an idf of edubuntu events?
[16:48] <highvoltage> idf?
[16:49] <Ahmuck> sunbird calander subscribe to
[16:49] <Ahmuck> ids ?
[16:49] <Ahmuck> sorry, an ical
[16:50] <highvoltage> Ahmuck: the fridge covers most of it, we have our meetings on there too
[16:50] <highvoltage> Ahmuck: it's a google calendar but I think it can be exported to ical
[16:50] <Ahmuck> does the fridge have an ical that i can subscribe to?
[16:51] <stgraber> highvoltage: yep, works fine with ical, I use it in zimbra
[16:51] <Ahmuck> is there a ical link on the edubuntu webpage?
[16:53] <highvoltage> Ahmuck:we link to the calendar from teh meetings wiki page
[17:13] <Ahmuck> hurrya for veli-matti !
[18:21] <joerg_> sbalneav, hey.....are u there? could you give me a starting point for the spec thing? like where to put it (edubuntu wiki?), how to structure it, etc.?
[18:56] <joerg_> vmlintu, hey.....great work :) btw. is it your father, brother or son on the photo at opinsys.fi? :)
[22:46] <joerg> very quiet here today
[22:51] <Lns> yep
[23:10] <Lns> bye all =)
[23:27] <highvolt1ge> joerg: stgraber and I have been busy with https://www.ltsp-cluster.org/ :)
[23:28] <joerg> highvolt1ge, that's nice :) and why do u tell me that? ;)
[23:29] <highvolt1ge> joerg: because you mentioned how quiet it is here today!
[23:30] <joerg> highvolt1ge, btw. got a phone call from a collegue who takes care about the regional computer stuff from the pedagogic point of view :)
[23:31] <joerg> highvolt1ge, hey jörg, I checked out usb stick linux distros today and found moblin which looks so goood so much nicer than the windows stuff, we need to give it to the primary schools, the kiddies will love it :D
[23:31] <highvolt1ge> joerg: I played with moblin last week
[23:31] <joerg> highvolt1ge, ah, okay....but anyway, you don't need to tell me what reason you have for being quiet :)
[23:32] <joerg> I never played with moblin.
[23:32] <highvolt1ge> joerg: I'm thinking of running it on my netbook, it's really slick
[23:32] <highvolt1ge> I took some screenshots, thought of blogging about it
[23:32] <joerg> I am just happy that he as a complete linux NOOOB seems to be excited without me telling him how nice everything is with linux :)
[23:32] <highvolt1ge> but screenshots alone doesn't do it justice
[23:32] <highvolt1ge> I'll have to take a video
[23:33] <highvolt1ge> yes that's great :)
[23:34] <joerg> how's ltsp performing when it comes to multimedia things?
[23:34] <joerg> like watching videos or whatever?
[23:35] <joerg> e.g. ten people running firefox and watching some youtube stuff on the machine over a 100mbit ethernet?
[23:35] <highvolt1ge> works quite well. especially when you run your media player as a local app
[23:35] <joerg> ah, okay....haven't checked out ltsp for ages....
[23:36] <highvolt1ge> yep, that will work just fine.
[23:36] <joerg> and never did anything with local apps
[23:36] <highvolt1ge> yes the current implementation of it is quite new
[23:36] <joerg> we once had 486 machines as ltsp thin clients *LOL*
[23:36] <joerg> that was when kde 2 was the current new kde release I think.
[23:36] <highvolt1ge> yes I've seen one lab before with 486 clients. you'll definitely not be able to stream youtube videos with those :)
[23:37] <highvolt1ge> yep, same with the lab I saw
[23:37] <highvolt1ge> Mandrake with KDE 2
[23:37] <joerg> well, we throw them away I think
[23:37] <highvolt1ge> and some real old LTSP version
[23:37] <joerg> or they are lying around somewhere
[23:37] <highvolt1ge> I think it was still 3.x
[23:37] <joerg> as I know the admins, they don't throw away anything :D
[23:37] <highvolt1ge> heh
[23:38] <joerg> I think it was 2.x here :)
[23:38] <joerg> I think we moved to ltsp 3 then which had heaps of new features like sound support....
[23:39] <joerg> it is not based on xdmcp anymore, right?
[23:39] <joerg> using freenx now?
[23:39] <highvolt1ge> it can use freenx, but it uses ssh by default
[23:39] <stgraber> using regular X export over SSH, so a lot more secure than XDMCP and still let's you do whatever X suppports (not like with FreeNX)
[23:40] <joerg> oh and I even remember that some freaks here were using ltsp to start rdesktop to connect to a win2k3 terminalserver :D
[23:40] <stgraber> NX would be great for the bandwidth but you'd loose sound, video, compiz, ...
[23:40] <joerg> uhh
[23:40] <highvolt1ge> joerg: you'd be suprised at how common a usecase that is
[23:40] <joerg> thought it was doing at least sound
[23:40] <joerg> or does only the nomachine nx do sound?
[23:40] <joerg> or not at all? :)
[23:41] <stgraber> it does but with ESD which is deprecated and doesn't work anymore
[23:41] <joerg> btw. can anybody help me getting started with that portal server project?
[23:41] <joerg> I never really did some open source project with specs and everything
[23:41] <joerg> I mostly have small stuff
[23:42] <joerg> that I develop on my own, have my svn repo at sourceforge and share it...
[23:42] <joerg> but as the portal project is a bit bigger, I'd like to do it in a more collaborative way....
[23:43] <joerg> but dunno where to start. e.g. how to structure a spec in a usable way, where to publish it, how to attract people / recruit other developers etc. :)
[23:44] <joerg> any ideas or docs that could help me get going?
[23:46] <highvolt1ge> joerg: you posted about it to the list before right?
[23:51] <joerg> highvolt1ge, yes, some days ago with a very rough idea.
[23:52] <joerg> highvolt1ge, scott (sbalneaves) wants to help me but he's very busy at the moment....well, and I am not, so I'd like to start doing sth asap :)
[23:54] <joerg> btw. what is the recommended way to mount user homedirs on an ltsp server? back in the "old times" we used nfs + nis, but that's not state of the art anymore I guess :)
[23:59] <highvolt1ge> joerg: I kept it marked as unread because I want to give it some proper attention at some point, haven't had time to read and think about it properly yet, but it seems like a good idea