[00:07] <euphorianx3> i can't burn the lucid-desktop-i386.iso image to a CD, the burning process fails at 98-99% i think its too big :( (750,000,000 bytes)
[00:15] <konraddo> hi
[00:21] <konraddo> i have a problem with sound on kubuntu 9.10, i can listen to music in amarok, but sound is not working when i try to play something in Firefox (YouTube, etc.)
[00:23] <Daugha|n> Have you installe ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:24] <konraddo> hmmm, no :s
[00:24] <Daugha|n> Well, see if that helps. =)
[00:24] <konraddo> ok
[00:24] <konraddo> btw i heard that it might be a fault of pulseaudio :s
[00:25]  * Daugha|n shrugs.
[00:25] <Daugha|n> That package usually solves my sound issues involving the web.
[00:25] <konraddo> ok, ubuntu-restricted-extras is downloading, im afk for few minutes
[00:36] <konraddo> hmm i've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, but sound in firefox isn't working anyway
[00:37] <Daugha|n> Are all the volumes turned up?
[00:39] <konraddo> yes
[00:39] <konraddo> :s
[00:40] <Daugha|n> Ok, you need someone who knows more than I do, then. Sorry.
[00:40] <konraddo> ok :p
[00:47] <konraddo> uh, cYa
[00:47] <konraddo> ;p
[00:52] <ewoerner> hi, are there any special tricks to get the nepomuk search to work in dolphin?
[00:52] <ewoerner> only shows me an empty list of results
[00:52] <ewoerner> (plasma runner works fine)
[00:53] <ewoerner> (sc 4.4 rc2)
[00:53] <iconmefisto> ewoerner: you need to install some packages to get it to work. what version of kde do you have?
[00:54] <ewoerner> as i just said, 4.4 rc2
[00:54] <ewoerner> and nepomuk is working fine, that's not the problem
[00:55] <ewoerner> dolphin just doesn't show any search results
[00:55] <iconmefisto> ewoerner: you need to install virtuoso-server and virtuoso-drivers
[00:56] <ewoerner> virtuoso is installed - as i said, the nepomuk plasma runner delivers results
[01:00] <iconmefisto> I'm not getting any results in dolphin either
[01:01] <iconmefisto> the changes to that dolphin search toolbar seem promising though
[01:07] <iconmefisto> ewoerner: try searching with nepomuksearch:/<search term>
[01:07] <iconmefisto> ewoerner: that works for me, but not the dolphin search interface
[01:10] <ewoerner> yeah, that one works for me as well
[01:11] <iconmefisto> and now dolphin has died after a second search. when I close it and try to reopen it, I get a blank window, nothing displayed but the titlebar
[01:24] <Daugha|n> iconmefisto: I;ve been having issues with dolphin crashing, everything else seems quite stable though.....
[01:25] <iconmefisto> Daugha|n: it actually just froze and I had to kill it. when I restarted it, that's when I got a blank window
[01:27] <Daugha|n> iconmefisto: Mine has been freezing and ultimately crashing all week long at least. ALways on simple stuff like changing dirs.
[01:28] <Daugha|n> Sometimes takes as long as 2 min to restart, also.
[01:28] <Reemul> what build are you using?
[01:28]  * Daugha|n has no clue.
[01:28] <Reemul> 9.10?
[01:28] <Reemul> 9.04
[01:28] <Daugha|n> Oh.....Ubuntu 9.10 x64
[01:29] <iconmefisto> 9.10 with kde 4.4rc1
[01:29] <Daugha|n> Thought you meant the exact kernel build...
[01:29] <Daugha|n> I'm running kde 4.3.2
[01:30] <iconmefisto> *kde 4.4rc2
[01:31] <Roasted> Does anybody know why Dolphin doesn't mount network shares like Nautilus does?
[01:31] <Reemul> Ok sorry I am not any help I am only running the 32bit version
[01:32] <iconmefisto> Roasted: how does nautilus do it?
[01:32] <Roasted> well nautilus... MOUNTS it
[01:32] <Roasted> like a drive
[01:32] <Daugha|n> 32 bit is another lappy......And, it seems to have issues running pidgin....Prolly dig into that more in a week or so.
[01:32] <Roasted> dolphin doesnt appear tot do that
[01:32] <Roasted> so I have to re-authenticate every time to the network share if I close dolphin out
[01:32] <Roasted> if I reopen nautilus its still mounted and quick and snappy and blah blah blah :(
[01:32] <Reemul> save your password in kwallet
[01:33] <Roasted> even still, its slow until it authenticates
[01:33] <Roasted> nautilus = BLAM. done. Right there.
[01:33] <Roasted> Dolphin just slugs along.
[01:33] <Roasted> will 10.04 have any changes, perhaps?
[01:33] <iconmefisto> of course it will have changes!
[01:34] <Roasted> I mean changes in regard to dolphin potentially being.. quicker
[01:34] <Reemul> that is dependent upon the KDE build
[01:34] <Reemul> but I would think it should
[01:34] <iconmefisto> Roasted: is konqueror any better at mounting net shares? perhaps it's not dolphin-specific
[01:34] <Roasted> I ran kubuntu for a while and liked it, but I had mixed speed experiences on the machines I installed it on. So I went back to Ubuntu for thet tiem being.
[01:34] <Roasted> No, Konq did the same thing.
[01:35] <Reemul> it may be the K is not caching passwords
[01:36] <Roasted> regardless, mounting network shares... makes sense. I just dont understand why dolphin never did it yet.
[01:36] <Reemul> when I was running openSUSE I had to store the password in kwallet
[01:36] <Roasted> I hate kwallet. :/
[01:36] <Reemul> ya I am not a huge fan of it
[01:36] <iconmefisto> I hate it too
[01:37] <Reemul> but I am less of a fan of gnome
[01:37] <Roasted> Im just trying to get aquianted with whats coming in kubuntu for 10.04. Not sure if Im sold on gnome shell yet, but I like  *buntu a lot.
[01:38] <Reemul> I just installed kubuntu for the first time. I have ubuntu running on vmware but I have not used it a lot
[01:38] <Daugha|n> I'm torn myself....I like the kde interface, but, I cant seem to get it to handle multiple monitors. Gnome does it fine.
[01:39] <Roasted> I however found kubuntu to handle multiple monitors easier...
[01:39] <Roasted> It's just difficult. I like so much from both of them. Gahh.
[01:39] <Roasted> Its just discouraging to install Gnome on a ton of different machines and theyre all quick, and install KDE on a ton of machines and I get mixed results.
[01:40] <iconmefisto> Roasted: there is an alpha 2 release of lucid you could try. maybe in a VM
[01:40] <Roasted> I already tried.
[01:40] <Roasted> Wouldnt even install.
[01:40] <Roasted> I didnt try a VM though. I tried it on my spare pc.
[01:40] <naderman> hey, I'm a little confused I just finally updated to 9.10 and the network manager widget I was using does not appear to exist anymore?
[01:40] <Daugha|n> I'm on a lappy here, and when I plug in my 22, it tries to fit the laptop to the res for the 22. ALso, it says I dont have support for multiple monitors, and I cant find a package to install support.
[01:40] <naderman> it looked like this one here: http://www.osnews.com/story/20758/KDE_4_2_Progress_New_NetworkManager_Plasmoid_Coming
[01:41] <Roasted> Speaking of network manager, will it actually not suck in 10.04?
[01:41] <Reemul> ummm that is what may be sending me back to suse
[01:41] <Roasted> suse. :/
[01:42] <Roasted> try out mandriva. they have the sweetest wifi manager.
[01:42] <Reemul> I have 2 AP's in my house one ius a cisco and it does not broadcast the ssid and buntu can  not attach to it
[01:42] <reagleBRKLN> hi, most of my kde packages have updated to 4.3.5, and I can no longer alt-click links in Konq! Is this the case for anyone else?
[01:42] <iconmefisto> naderman: you don't have the knetworkmanager icon at all?
[01:43] <naderman> if I run knetworkmanager I get an icon, but that is a different one from what I used to have
[01:43] <naderman> and that does not appear to work at all
[01:43] <naderman> if I add a wifi to that it just doesn't seem to save it
[01:43] <naderman> doesn't connect, doesn't show it anywhere
[01:44] <Roasted> has anybody ever had retarded sound issues in kubuntu? I ran it on my machine a while back and Ic ouldnt play amarok and youtube at the same time.
[01:45] <iconmefisto> naderman: apt-cache policy plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[01:45] <reagleBRKLN> Roasted: not me, sound works fine
[01:45] <iconmefisto> naderman: just wondering which widget is installed
[01:46] <naderman> plasma-widget-networkmanagement:
[01:46] <naderman>   Installed: 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1
[01:46] <naderman>   Candidate: 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1
[01:46] <naderman>   Version table:
[01:46] <naderman>  *** 0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1 0
[01:46] <FloodBotK2> naderman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <naderman>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
[01:46] <Roasted> reagleBRKLN, really???? Why have I been having issues...
[01:46] <naderman> come on that was 7 lines :(
[01:47] <iconmefisto> naderman: that's the version I have and it works fine
[01:47] <reagleBRKLN> anyone else running 4.3.5 packages? can you stil left click links in Konq?
[01:47] <naderman> iconmefisto: does it look like the one in the screenshot I linked to?
[01:48] <iconmefisto> naderman: not quite. I've never seen the notification before (shown with black background in the screenshot)
[01:48] <naderman> :(
[01:48] <naderman> that one really worked well
[01:48] <naderman> no idea what it was though :/
[01:49] <reagleBRKLN> whenever I left/alt click in Konq, I go back, instead of getting the pop-up... is that configurable somewhere?
[01:51] <iconmefisto> naderman: that's probably knetworkmanager and some other wireless widget in the screenshot
[01:51] <naderman> yeah
[01:51] <iconmefisto> plasma-widget-wifi maybe
[01:52] <naderman> actually no, it does not use knetworkmanager
[01:52] <naderman> but network-manager
[01:52] <naderman> I'll try that
[01:53] <kaddi> hi, the last updates screwed my sound. after a reboot i have no sound anymore. I got a message on boot that there were 3 unused sounddevices and if I wanted them deleted. I clicked no, but I still have no sound
[01:53] <kaddi> how can I repair my sound?
[01:53] <naderman> iconmefisto: see http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=839
[01:54] <naderman> I wonder where I got that
[01:56] <naderman> hmm # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:56] <iconmefisto> got what?
[01:56] <naderman> that might have something to do with it
[01:57] <naderman> iconmefisto: that network-manager plasmoid
[01:58] <iconmefisto> naderman: oh that's your screenshot? the widget with the coloured bars?
[01:58] <naderman> no but mine looked just like that (with the black background, etc.)
[01:58] <naderman> exactly the same thing
[01:59] <naderman> and well knetworkmanager as I said doesn't even store my settings so I'd love to have that back
[01:59] <iconmefisto> I just tried plasma-widget-wifi and it doesn't show anything, not even an icon. just a blank space in the panel (kde 4.4rc2)
[02:00]  * kaddi would suggest wicd :p
[02:00] <naderman> yeah that's not it
[02:01] <naderman> and no karmic versions on that launchpad account
[02:03] <reagleBRKLN> ah, in moving to 4.3.5 somehow the konq config option of  "Right clickgoes back in history" got activated
[02:04] <Roasted> will 10.04 get pulse audio
[02:04] <kaddi> anyone here able to help me with sound? I lost it after update & reboot today
[02:09] <naderman> iconmefisto: when I try to add a connection in knetworkmanager it just doesn't do anything at all when I try to save it :(
[02:10] <iconmefisto> kaddi: if you run speaker-test in konsole, do you get any sound?
[02:11] <kaddi> no, it says "0 - front left" but I didn't hear anything
[02:11] <kaddi> now it said "time per period 30,... 0 - front left"
[02:12] <iconmefisto> kaddi: nothing muted or set too low in alsamixer?
[02:12] <kaddi> tried starting alsamixer it said: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:13] <kaddi> iconmefisto: it is quite possible that someting is changed/muted, I just don't know what. Sound was working fine before the update
[02:14] <kaddi> iconmefisto: should I kill off speakertest or does it finish on it's own at some point?
[02:14] <iconmefisto> kaddi: so alsamixer doesn't start at all?
[02:14] <kaddi> iconmefisto: no
[02:14] <iconmefisto> kaddi: yeah, kill speaker-test
[02:15] <tony32> anyone know if it's possible to move files in dolphin without that annoying popup asking to move them?
[02:15] <iconmefisto> !sound
[02:15] <kaddi> iconmefisto: what's the command to start volume-control for kde?
[02:16] <iconmefisto> kaddi: kmix? the sound mixer?
[02:16] <kaddi> kmic
[02:16] <kaddi> doesn't seem to be doing anything either, though
[02:17] <iconmefisto> try starting it from konsole and see if messages give you a clue
[02:18] <kaddi> iconmefisto: I did and there was no error message, the window just didn't open
[02:18] <iconmefisto> kaddi: what was the update that caused this?
[02:19] <kaddi> iconmefisto: I'm not sure, I think (but I didn't check) that upgrade to kde 4.3.5 was pushed this week and that I upgraded to it. However the reboot today also made me boot the new 17-kernel, so there could be all kind of updates causing it
[02:19] <kaddi> iconmefisto: there must be some major screwage though, cause sudo adduser USERNAME sound returns adduser: the group "sound" does not exist"
[02:21] <Roasted> when will kubuntu get smart and just have firefox installed by default instead of having this laughable firefox installer?
[02:21] <kaddi> iconmefisto: or could it be that i need to be in the group pulse and not the group sound?
[02:24] <tony32> Roasted: i think they're afraid of the freefags. the ones who cry if it's free but the license isn't to their spec
[02:25] <Roasted> but, like... konq as a web browser. thats just a really, REALLY bad joke.
[02:25] <u19809> guys when Istart a console and run 'set' i see MANY functions in the environment of bash ... what are they doing there ?
[02:25] <Roasted> I mean, come on. ubuntus done it for years, and kubuntu wont?
[02:26] <iconmefisto> kaddi: are you in the group "audio"?
[02:27] <kaddi> iconmefisto: not sure how to read the line: audio:x:29:pulse I've added myself to pulse to test if that would help, but it didn't
[02:27] <kaddi> should I add myself to audio?
[02:28] <iconmefisto> kaddi: well my user isn't in that group (haven't got the 4.3.5 update yet)
[02:28] <kaddi> iconmefisto: do you have a sound group?
[02:28] <iconmefisto> kaddi: but I'm in group "pulse-access"
[02:28] <kaddi> didn't help
[02:28] <juananfe> hola
[02:29] <iconmefisto> kaddi: I don't see "sound" group
[02:30] <kaddi> iconmefisto: no change after adding myself to pulse, pulse-access and audio
[02:30] <kaddi> sound card is still recognized though
[02:32] <iconmefisto> kaddi: "groups icon" gives me: icon adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare pulse-access
[02:32] <kaddi> kaddi : kaddi adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare pulse pulse-access
[02:32] <kaddi> if anything, I'm in too many groups now .P
[02:32] <kaddi> iconmefisto: have you installed the latest kernel?
[02:33] <iconmefisto> kaddi: running 2.6.31-18-generic
[02:33] <kaddi> 18? o.o
[02:34] <iconmefisto> kaddi: is yours 32bit or 64bit?
[02:34] <kaddi> iconmefisto: could you run the command from the guide: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[02:34] <kaddi> do you get modules for your kernel? I only got modules for kernel 16, but I'm running 17
[02:34] <kaddi> iconmefisto: it's 32bit
[02:35] <iconmefisto> yes I do get modules for my kernel
[02:35] <kaddi> ok, i guess I'm missing the modules then, somehow
[02:36] <iconmefisto> try to install the kernel I'm using
[02:36] <kaddi> where do i get it from? it's not from main is it?
[02:37] <iconmefisto> !info linux-image-2.6.31-18-generic
[02:37] <iconmefisto> hmm
[02:37] <iconmefisto> I don't know how I got it to be honest
[02:37] <kaddi> hehe
[02:48] <Izinucs> How do I switch between a DHCP address to Static?  I've opened "Network Connections and created a new Wired Connection, Entered my desired IP address within the range of my subnet, put in DNS servers and put in a search domain.. however it won't connect.. any input appriciated
[02:49] <ilumi> Izinucs: this a problem with linux, simple things are ofter screwed
[02:50] <jesse> whats the repository for kde 4.3.5? is it out yet?
[02:50] <Izinucs> ilumi: a pain yes.. but I should be able to do this :( ....
[02:52] <ilumi> Izinucs: my guess is you have to disable dhcp
[02:52] <Izinucs> ilumi: on the computer or router
[02:52] <ilumi> Izinucs: did you reboot or ifconfig ethx down /up?
[02:53] <Izinucs> ilumi: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:53] <ilumi> Izinucs: computer, on the router static and dhck should work
[02:54] <ilumi> Izinucs: you probably have to change it in the config file, however i dont know which, ive done it long time ago
[02:54] <ilumi> Izinucs: and im not currenltly using ubuntu
[02:54] <kaddi> jesse it's out, but I would wait, I'm having major issues
[02:55] <ner0x> You know when you reinstall a package is says "Blah blah previously installed package". How can I make apt-get forget alllll about a package.
[02:55] <Izinucs> ilumi: with the Network manager you can build preferences for different types of connections.. the static one I've built turns DHCP off.. When you click the icon you have a choice of which type of connection to use.. click it and the system automatically ifup's or ifdown's as needed.. but still..... errrrr
[02:56] <kaddi> ner0x: i think you may be looking for the "purge" command. That will delete all config files from the installe dprogram
[02:57] <ilumi> Izinucs: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <Izinucs> ilumi: I'll take a look at that..
[02:58] <Izinucs> ilumi: not much in there.. auto lo & iface lo inet loopback
[02:59] <ilumi> Izinucs: yeah, try entering all the info there
[02:59] <ilumi> Izinucs: pm
[03:00] <Izinucs> ilumi: resolv.conv has the domain, search and DNS servers listed as well.. of course right now I"m on the same box using dhcp.. so maybe it dynamically changes those files... sure
[03:00] <x7m> join ubuntu
[03:00] <x7m> #join ubuntu
[03:02] <iconmefisto> x7m: like this: /join #ubuntu
[03:02] <kaddi> x7m:  /join #ubunt
[03:02] <kaddi> u
[03:02] <kaddi> arg..
[03:02] <FloodBotK2> kaddi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <kaddi> yeah yeah :p
[03:02] <x7m> okay tnk u
[03:03] <elijah> alguien sabe de bases de datos?
[03:03] <Guest30201> someone here knows about databases?
[03:03] <iconmefisto> I've heard of them! :) can you be more specific?
[03:04] <Guest30201> i'm using the create table like statement and
[03:04] <Guest30201> i can't import the fact that an attribute is a primary o foreign key
[03:04] <Guest30201> is it possible?
[03:06] <iconmefisto> kaddi: I think my 2.6.31-18-generic kernel came from karmic-proposed
[03:07] <ilumi> Guest30201: you cant import what?
[03:09] <Guest30201> ilumi: I'm importing the attributes BUT when I've imported all i look the table and I can't see which of them is a primary key or foreign key
[03:09] <Guest30201> i'm using the create table like statement
[03:11] <jesse2> Hello.  I primarily use gnome, but when i load up KDE, my screenlets (which i use in gnome) still auto load on KDE.  is there a way i can have them autoload on gnome but not kde?
[03:11] <ilumi> Guest30201: well when you create a table you have to create your own primary key
[03:11] <kaddi> iconmefisto: thx, I'll check that out
[03:11] <kaddi> gonna reboot brb
[03:11] <shadeslayer> morning
[03:12] <Guest30201> ilumi: but can i create the primary/foreign keys at the same time i import the table?
[03:13] <ilumi> ilumi: well, if you import a table, it already should have a primary key, which will be your foreign key
[03:13] <ilumi> Guest30201: but im not that familiar with it, so i might be wrong
[03:13] <shadeslayer> lol
[03:14] <Guest30201> ilumi: that's right
[03:14] <Guest30201> (you're not familiar with that)
[03:18] <ilumi> Guest30201: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_key
[03:18] <kaddi> iconmefisto: reboot fixed it, i think it really was the pulse-access group i wasn't in
[03:19] <iconmefisto> kaddi: good news
[03:20] <iconmefisto> kaddi: I might do the upgrade to 4.3.5 now :)
[03:20] <jesse2> iconmefisto: is that on the repositories yet?
[03:20] <kaddi> iconmefisto: it also broke my optics, so I'd be careful.. intel ftw once again it appears.
[03:20] <iconmefisto> jesse2: apparently, yes
[03:21] <iconmefisto> kaddi: optics?
[03:21] <kaddi> iconmefisto: fixed it by running plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster thanks to the very nice people at #plasma :)
[03:21] <kaddi> iconmefisto: for lakc of a better word.. all my widgets and taskbars and menus had transparent writing on transparent background, which made them rather unusable
[03:23] <iconmefisto> kaddi: so running "plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster" once fixed it permanently? do you know what that command does, btw?
[03:23] <kaddi> no, i need to kill plasma off and restart it with that command
[03:23] <kaddi> every boot
[03:24] <kaddi> iconmefisto: I believe it changes the graphics used, but I didn't enquire.. it took me 5 hours to get there, I was just hapy something worked :p
[03:25] <kaddi> iconmefisto: there's a couple of screenshots I uploaded to illustrate: http://imagebin.org/82171 http://imagebin.org/82189
[03:25] <kaddi> the second one was when desktop effects were disabled
[03:29] <iconmefisto> kaddi: I got that after an update a while back, but changing back to the default "air" theme fixed it
[03:30] <kaddi> iconmefisto: no, the first link is with air, the second I believe was aya, but same problem with air
[03:30] <kaddi> when running the graphicssystem switch i can even use my old config and see something
[03:39] <RiotingPacifist> I don't know anything else but "plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster" will cause plasma (responsible for systray and notifications) to avoid using opengl or any acceleration when displaying stuff so all transparency and effects will stop working
[03:43] <iconmefisto> RiotingPacifist: is it the same as changing desktop effects settings from opengl to xrender compositing in desktop effects gui?
[03:47] <kaddi> shadeslayer: I got my issue fixed for now. :) People in plasma suggested running plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster which led me reuse my old config. Almost back to normal now :)
[03:48] <shadeslayer> kaddi: oh cool,didnt know that :)
[03:48] <kaddi> me neither :p
[03:50] <RiotingPacifist> iconmefisto: no i think it's like turning them off but for just one program
[03:53] <kaddi> RiotingPacifist: you're sure it disable effects, cause I think mine are still working. It may depend on the hardware specs.
[03:54] <RiotingPacifist> kaddi: No, i'm not sure, i think it turns of acceleration through opengl/xrenderer though, so it is possible the effects still work through raster if you have a good enough system
[03:55] <kaddi> i fuond this saying it uses more ram: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2009-July/003017.html i have 3Gb of ram where 2GB usually lay dormant
[04:00] <ilumi> pm me 1 more time
[04:05] <santiago> youtybe
[04:05] <santiago> hola
[04:06] <santiago> hola a todos
[04:06] <santiago> como esan
[04:10] <ilumi> hola at me daug
[04:25] <Scunizi__> What's the name of kubuntu's network manager?
[04:27] <rmrfslash> so are we calling KDE "KDE Software CCompilation" now?
[04:27] <rmrfslash> is this what is meant by KDE SC 4.4
[04:28] <kaddi_> you sure it wasn't kde rc 4.4?
[04:28] <rmrfslash> no
[04:28] <rmrfslash> KDE SC 4.4 Release Candidate 2 packages available
[04:28] <kaddi_> Scunizi__ i think it's plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[04:28] <rmrfslash> from the kubuntu homepage
[04:29] <qbg> Hi.  I automatically get a global IPv6 address in Vista, but not in Kubuntu 9.10; any reason why?
[04:29] <Scunizi__> kaddi_: yep that's it.. thanks
[04:29] <kaddi_> you're welcome
[04:29] <rmrfslash> why do you care about getting an ipv6 address?
[04:29] <qbg> Because I want to occasionally access IPv6 services
[04:30] <rmrfslash> ipv6 services?
[04:30] <qbg> For example, ipv6.google.com
[04:31] <darthanubis> can anyone here with a pure kde install play quicktime video in their browser?
[04:32] <ilumi> darthanubis: kde doesnt install codecs
[04:33] <darthanubis> I did not ask that it did
[04:33] <Scunizi> Thanks to ilumi and his patients I got a static IP working!  now the big test.. will it stick after reboot since I marked it "auto connect"..
[04:33] <darthanubis> I asked a very specific question
[04:33] <darthanubis> it was also yes or no
[04:33] <kaddi_> darthanubis: i guess the answer is no
[04:33] <ilumi> darthanubis: well, if there is no codec, you cant play it ,can you
[04:34] <darthanubis> still not what I asked
[04:34] <darthanubis> pure does not mean fresh install
[04:34]  * RiotingPacifist find's darthanubis's lack of codec disturbing
[04:34] <darthanubis> hence the confusion
[04:35] <kaddi_> well pure kde wouldn't even run, no? you do need some kernel and a couple more things I'd imagine? :p
[04:35] <ilumi> darthanubis: besides, what browser are you talking about, because you need extra plugins to play that in firefox, and probably other browsers
[04:35] <darthanubis> I could di it if I wanted or did not mind pulling totem-mozilla plugins and all the crap with it, but I'm trying to avoid that
[04:36] <darthanubis> right not I'm trying to get it doen in chrome and arora
[04:36] <darthanubis> konq is trash
[04:36] <ilumi> darthanubis: isnt arora a renamed firefox?
[04:36] <darthanubis> basically
[04:37] <darthanubis> without all the stuff FF depends on
[04:37] <ilumi> darthanubis: like?
[04:37] <kaddi_> there's a vlc-plugin for firefox that can replace totem I believe. I used to use, don't recall why I ain't using it anymore though
[04:37] <RiotingPacifist> ilumi: nah it's a webkit based qt browser, it doesn't play with kde but i think work is being done to couple them a bit more
[04:38] <darthanubis> playing with kde jsut fine
[04:38] <darthanubis> kaddi_: can you watch apple trailers?
[04:38] <ilumi> RiotingPacifist: i have it installed, but dont use it, what do you mean it doesnt play with kde
[04:39] <RiotingPacifist> ilumi: last time i used it it had it's own password, history and bookmarks managers
[04:39] <ilumi> RiotingPacifist: oh , you mean integration
[04:40] <ilumi> RiotingPacifist: i prefer firefox, so dont really care,
[04:41] <ilumi> bu tit does seem pretty fast
[04:41] <RiotingPacifist> yeah, its a nice qt browser, but doesn't integrate with KDE, rekonq is not as polished but does, firefox isn't qt based but there is work being done so bookmarks and other features play nice
[04:44] <ilumi> darthanubis: why do you care about quicktime,, isnt that like a dinosaur of codecs?
[04:44] <ilumi> darthanubis: i dont remember las time i seen a quicktime video on the web
[04:45] <kaddi_> darthanubis: there's also mplayer that's supposed to be capable of it. i'm checking apple website right now, I'll let you know when I figured something out
[04:45] <darthanubis> kaddi_: http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/greenzone/
[04:45] <darthanubis> try to play that
[04:46] <darthanubis> I installed totem-mozilla and that has not worked, that usually does it
[04:46] <darthanubis> unless I have to completely install totem and its plugins
[04:46] <darthanubis> I did not care before what got installed last time I had this working, but I do now
[04:46] <darthanubis> don't want to pull  a bunch of gnome stuff down
[04:50] <APERSON> grr... why won't xchat remember my 'hide join/parts' for this channel?
[04:50] <kaddi_> well try mplayer or vlc then
[04:50] <APERSON> I use vlc's
[04:50] <darthanubis> APERSON: quicktime works for you?
[04:50] <darthanubis> which borwser you use?
[04:51] <APERSON> I was just idly stating that I uses vlc's browser plugin to handle things
[04:51] <darthanubis> i c
[04:52] <eitreach> What is the plasmoid called that mimics the Windows 7 task list?
[04:56] <kaddi_> darthanubis: according to this bug-report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/418064 It's not your browser that can't play quicktime, it's apple being an ass and not wanting linux users to watch their trailers. They only let clients identifying as quicktime play their movies
[04:57] <kaddi_> it's got nothing to do with being able to play quicktime movies or not
[04:57] <kaddi_> seems fixed in totem, can't find much about it on other plugins
[05:06] <rmrfslash> i don't get audio in quicktime movies
[05:06] <rmrfslash> tried watching the new ipad movie on apple.com
[05:06] <kaddi_> http://www.divxden.com/93jdzmp0ekfa/NCIS.S07E13.HDTV.XviD-LOL.avi.html# I'm testing this one and it works fine for me
[05:07] <kaddi_> that's with the mpayer-plugin
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[05:14] <kaddi_> what just appened? o.o
[05:15] <kaddi_> test
[05:15] <kaddi_> a, that looks better now :P
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[05:16] <darthanubis> kaddi_: yeah i tried on my gnome  mint box and it played in chrome via the gnome-mplayer plugin
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[05:18] <kaddi_> darthanubis: i have the mplayer plugin and the file loads fine through playlist and everything and then it is stopped. Other divx work fine in FF though
[05:18] <darthanubis> hate that it works in gnome and not my nice new kde
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[05:19] <eitreach> Something looks broken.
[05:19] <kaddi_> not sure if someone isn't actively breaking
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[05:20] <darthanubis> almost got preogress but it appears to have locked up chrome
[05:20] <darthanubis> just showing playlist
[05:22] <darthanubis> well got it to play in konqueror, but it kills chrome, and the feed is laggy on the same network it pplayed perfectly on the mint box
[05:24] <kaddi_> it may be the gnome-mplayer plugin interfering? there should only be one plugin installed for quicktime to prevent confusing the browser :p
[05:24] <darthanubis> no that one was not even installed
[05:25] <darthanubis> th eGMP is on another box working perfectly in Mint
[05:25] <darthanubis> I've yet to install it in kde
[05:35] <darthanubis> kaddi_: got it
[05:36] <kaddi_> darthanubis:  how?
[05:36] <darthanubis> did not even have to pull down a gang of gnome garbage
[05:36] <darthanubis> install gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer
[05:36] <darthanubis> plays FLAWLESSLY
[05:36] <kaddi_> interesting
[05:36] <darthanubis> try it
[05:37] <darthanubis> I'm playing it via chrome
[05:45] <tsimpson> let's see if it's over
[05:52] <bigbrovar> hi guys I am wondering which repo i need to enable to be able to upgrade to kde 4.3.5 on karmic
[05:52] <tsimpson> bigbrovar: 4.3.5 is currently landing in -backports
[05:54] <tony32> anyone used ecryptfs?
[05:55] <bigbrovar> tsimpson: oh ok the normal backport? or the ppa backports?
[05:55] <tsimpson> normal karmic-backports
[05:56] <tsimpson> I'm not sure if all the packages are updated yet though, but most of the core packages have
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[06:08] <kaddi_> what's wrong with the bots tonight? :P
[06:08] <tsimpson> they are working as expected
[06:08] <kaddi_> ah
[06:08] <kaddi_> i was wondering earlier
[06:09] <tsimpson> when the channel is under attack, they lock it down
[06:09] <kaddi_> if it was the bots acting up or if there was a bunch of stupid people joining
[06:09] <tsimpson> which is a good thing :)
[06:09] <kaddi_> i guess it is the latter then :)
[06:09] <tsimpson> lots of CTCP spam
[06:09] <tsimpson> *don't click the link if you see them, they will cause _you_ to attack the channel*
[06:10] <kaddi_> hehe, ok
[06:10] <kaddi_> haven't seen one so far, though
[06:11] <tsimpson> it's a malformed ctcp version with a link in it, which causes your web browser to send data to freenode and attack channels with the same link
[06:11] <tsimpson> ^if you click it
[06:11] <kaddi_> so what is the deeper sense in attacking a channel? is it just "fun" or do they get some kind of revenue out of it?
[06:12] <tsimpson> they just have nothing better to do I guess
[06:12] <kaddi_> ah, great
[06:12] <kaddi_> but now I understand why I saw a couple of familiar names get banned :p
[06:15] <Daugha|n> GUess I missed something.
[06:16] <darthanubis> kaddi_: did you try it?
[06:16] <kaddi_> yeah, it's working now in firefox :)
[06:16] <darthanubis> ;)
[06:35] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[06:36] <kaddi_> greets
[06:37] <contrast> Anyone have a solution to the kio_http_cache_cleaner problem? I've tried moving the file from /usr/bin to elsewhere, and had a thorough look through Konqueror's configuration and System Settings -> Service Manager, no dice. : \
[07:38] <aperson> so this is weird:  I can't use vlc because it seg faults, but running cvlc runs fine (and the gui pops up too)
[07:39] <aperson> (11824) KPluginLoader::load: The plugin "libkfilemodule" doesn't contain a kde_plugin_verification_data structure
[07:39] <aperson> hmm
[07:42] <Daugha|n> I dont even understand al that, really.
[07:44] <shadeslayer_> aperson: you might have better luck in #kde
[07:45] <aperson> yeah, probably :)
[07:51] <shadeslayer_> meh.. plasma crashes everytime i add a widget :(
[07:51] <aperson> and just as I expected, I got told to go to #vlc
[07:53] <aperson> which isn't even on this server.. my search continues
[07:54] <shadeslayer_> hehe :)
[07:54] <Daugha|n> Sounds like the one time I tried #kde....
[07:55] <shadeslayer_> aperson: try googling the error?
[07:55] <aperson> I just get segment fault
[08:15] <aperson> huzzah!  vlc --reset-config did the trick
[08:15] <shadeslayer_> :D
[08:22] <contrast> Anyone have a solution to the kio_http_cache_cleaner problem? I've tried moving the file from /usr/bin to elsewhere, and had a thorough look through Konqueror's configuration and System Settings -> Service Manager, no dice. It's really starting to drive me bonkers. :-\
[11:26] <JediMaster> Hey guys, I'm having headaches with my audio still, getting this a lot: "audio device HDA Nvidia (AD198x Analog) does not work falling back to PulseAudio"
[11:27] <JediMaster> I currently have no audio working at all at the moment, even in system settings multimedia when I try and click test on it it won't play anything
[11:30] <snikker> hi, how can i make a xgettext recursive scan?
[12:46] <webik> hi
[13:04] <UK-DONE> Is there any solution for Network not managed error ?
[13:36] <kaddi__> hi, is it possible to change the default command with which plasma-desktop is loaded at boot time?
[13:37] <Tm_T> kaddi__: perhaps, why?
[13:38] <kaddi> Tm_T: I'm experiencing graphic errors when plasma-desktop is loaded normally. "plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster" works much better. Which is why I would like to load plasma with those options at boot instead of doing a "kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster" after login
[13:39] <Tm_T> kaddi: ah
[13:40] <Tm_T> kaddi: /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop has line exec=
[13:40] <kaddi> great :)
[13:41] <kaddi> thansk a lot, that seems to fix it! :)
[13:58] <michel> hi
[13:58] <kaddi> hi
[14:01] <michel> when i run sauerbraten(a 3d shooter) mouse pointer moves veeeery slow and jerky, as if the game has too low fps. i have ati card and i use "radeon" driver
[14:02] <michel> what is the problem?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Heyas
[14:29] <shadeslayer> whats the command to tar a file with max. compression
[14:29] <shadeslayer> whats the command to tar a file with max. compression
[14:37] <JuJuBee__> I just installed a fres copy of 9.04 on a server and for some reason apache not starting up when I restart the server.  Any help?
[14:40]  * genii sips and ponders "Options `-[0-7][lmh]' not supported by *this* tar"
[14:40] <ahox_> Hi, is it possible to switch from 32 to 64bit w/o a complete reinstall?
[14:41] <genii> ahox_: The short answer is: No
[14:41] <ahox_> genii: and the long answer? I don't mind getting my hands dirty, using linux since '99 or so
[14:42] <tsimpson> the long answer is also "no"
[14:42] <Tm_T> ahox_: I'd say you wouldn't need to ask if it would be possible for you reasonably
[14:43] <tsimpson> it may be possible by reinstalling without formatting, but then you'd need to make sure you don't have any 32bit libs or binaries anywhere after
[14:43] <tsimpson> quicker and easier to backup and reinstall
[14:43] <tsimpson> and safer
[14:43] <ahox_> ok, then I will wait a bit, just don't have the time right now
[14:43] <JuJuBee__> Anybody?  What can I do to make apache start on reboot?  I seem to have to start it manually...
[14:43] <ahox_> 10.4 is not so far away...
[14:44] <Black_HorseX_> hi
[14:44] <Black_HorseX_> How can i fix some wireless problems ?
[14:45] <Black_HorseX_> I am still disconnected from my modem :(
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hey genii , what do you think of this http://tinyurl.com/yabprov  ...is canonical selling out ?
[14:45] <Black_HorseX_> But I don't understand why because my signal strengh is enough
[14:46] <ahox_> BluesKaj: As long as they don't preinstall the yahoo toolbar...
[14:46] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: please...
[14:46] <Black_HorseX_> and Somebody can tell me how to have my icons on the desktop like windows or ubuntu ?
[14:47] <ahox_> Black_HorseX_: Use the desktop settings to set it to Desktop
[14:47] <ahox_> Black_HorseX_: sry, Folder View
[14:47] <Kolia> ahox_: :) yep i find it confusing too :)
[14:47] <Black_HorseX_> ok let me try
[14:50] <Black_HorseX_> ahox_, can you guide me trough step by step ?
[14:50] <ahox_> Black_HorseX_: Right click on the desktop, click settings
[14:51] <ahox_> (assuming you have kde 4.3 - for me its just from memory, I am using the 4.4rc2)
[14:51] <Black_HorseX_> yes
[14:51] <ahox_> And then there should be the Activity drop down somewhere
[14:51] <ahox_> at the top
[14:51] <ahox_> It's preselected with desktop, change it to Folder View
[14:52] <Black_HorseX_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ok
[14:52] <Black_HorseX_> nice
[14:52] <Black_HorseX_> thanks ahox_
[14:57] <ahox_> Also my scripted image plugin does not work anymore with kde4.4rc2. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
[14:58] <peterPan> can confirm that kde4.4 is at rc status
[14:59] <Tm_T> ahox_: your scripted image plugin?
[15:00] <Tm_T> ahox_: ah, that thing, cannot say about rc2 but it works here
[15:08] <somekool> hi ! can I upgrade my 32bit kubuntu to 64bit system ?
[15:08] <Tm_T> somekool: by reinstalling, yes
[15:08] <iconmefisto> somekool: so no, you have to reinstall, not upgrade
[15:11] <somekool> iso is labelled amd64 but it would work with intel 64 as well, won't it ?
[15:11] <iconmefisto> yes
[15:11] <tsimpson> somekool: amd64 is the standard, it will work with both AMD and Intel processors
[15:12] <somekool> why not call it x86_64 ?
[15:12] <tsimpson> because that's the Intel standard, not thin industry standard
[15:12] <tsimpson> s/thin/the/
[15:13] <iconmefisto> I think it's because amd were first with 64bit processors
[15:14] <somekool> thanks for the info!!! I will be reinstalling kubuntu in 64bit
[15:14] <somekool> have you seen the recent benchmarks on phoronix.com ?
[15:15] <somekool> how's 4.4 RC2 beta packages?
[15:17] <peterPan> rc2 beta?   alpha beta rc?
[15:27] <Rav3nSw0rd> How do I change my password? I can change my password using passwd, but due to encryption on my hard drive, everything else falls to peices... I need to change the password to both at the same time or something like that
[15:27] <Rav3nSw0rd> but I don't know how to change my hard drive encryption password
[15:29] <peterPan> Rav3nSw0rd: what did google tell you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[15:29] <slow-motion> hi
[15:30] <peterPan> Rav3nSw0rd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670667
[15:33] <Rav3nSw0rd> I've tried that second link, but when I reboot, (after having changed password) it throws 3 errors which indicate that it didn't mount the encrypted drive.
[15:34] <Rav3nSw0rd> hm
[15:34] <Rav3nSw0rd> actually, I can't find the proper filesystem to put in place of /dev/sda5
[15:36] <Rav3nSw0rd> my sda is separated into 4 partitions, sda1, sda2, sda3, and sda4, sda4 is windows, sda1 is root, sda2 is home, sda3 is swap, but I tried all of them with that command, and none are LUKS partitions
[15:43] <peterPan> so it might be home, no? sda2
[15:49] <Rav3nSw0rd> I've tried them all, none of them work =[ "Command failed: /dev/sda2 is not a LUKS partition"
[15:51] <Rav3nSw0rd> I tried 'cryptsetup -y luksAddKey ~' but it returns 'Command failed: Can not access device'
[16:04] <soee> iv turned off menu bar in dolphin, can u tell me how can i turn it on again ?
[16:06] <JuJuBee> I cant get apache2 to start up automagically on reboot
[16:06] <gorgonizer> soee: Ctrl + M should restore the menu bar I believe...
[16:06] <soee> gorgonizer: yes it works, thank u
[16:06] <gorgonizer> np :)
[16:10] <peterPan> JuJuBee: probably should be doing that automatically. setting wrong that it does not start?
[16:13] <rmrfslash> I have a 1900 x 1200 display but kubuntu will only allow me to set my display to 1900 x 1080.... is there a way to add a resolution?
[16:13] <rmrfslash> or do I need to ef w/ xrandr
[16:13] <JuJuBee> peterPan: I agree, it has never done this to me after install... not sure why it not starting on reboot
[16:13] <JuJuBee> That is what I am trying to get help with
[16:14] <peterPan> JuJuBee but you can start it manually? works fine then?
[16:15] <peterPan> rmrfslash and which driver are you using?
[16:15] <rmrfslash> fglrx
[16:15] <rmrfslash> 9.12
[16:16] <rmrfslash> cool there's actually a new version
[16:16] <vivekrp_> hello
[16:16] <vivekrp_> anyone here from india?
[16:17] <JuJuBee> peterPan: yes, can start manually
[16:17] <genii> !in | vivekrp__
[16:17] <rmrfslash> doubt this will help though.... but could fix  few bugz here and there
[16:17] <JuJuBee> and works after that , but still not start automatically on reboot
[16:17] <vivekrp__> ubottu thank you
[16:18] <reagleBRKLN> I just upgraded to ppa packages to try kde 4.4rc2, however, when I log in, using existing .kde/ my desktop is black... What to do?
[16:18] <reagleBRKLN> shortcuts work, as does krunner, just no widgets, wallpaper, etc.
[16:19] <reagleBRKLN> do I have to start over with all my configs?!
[16:20] <Rav3nSw0rd> oh, I remember this problem
[16:20] <reagleBRKLN> pehaps i have to delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop* ?
[16:21] <Rav3nSw0rd> it had to do with the kdeblog not being compatible with certain styles
[16:21] <genii> reagleBRKLN: Perhaps: mv ~/.kde ~/.oldkde         then copy the important rc files bit by bit from .oldkde/share/config into the new .kde to see what ones are the culprit
[16:22] <reagleBRKLN> deleting config/plasma-desktop* gets me the desktop back, but unconfigured, but I dont mind retweaking just that.
[16:23] <comedit> Is there a simple way to export all kontact settings and import themin a new setup ?
[16:24] <Rav3nSw0rd> reagleBRKLN: I recommend disabling the blog widget that is enabled by default, that was what caused the problem for me, and after disabling that, my qtcurve style hasn't caused any issues yet
[16:25] <reagleBRKLN> Rav3nSw0rd: never had a blog widget installed before the upgrade
[16:26] <Pavel_> When I manually shut my disc drive, my computer turns off.  This is a recent development.
[16:26] <Rav3nSw0rd> k
[16:27] <Pavel_> any ideas guys?
[16:27] <Rav3nSw0rd> well, I can say I wasn't mistaken, I just added the microblogging widget and my desktop goes black just like that, lol
[16:27] <vivekrp__> which is the good todo list manager in Ubuntu (without calendars)
[16:28] <iconmefisto> Pavel_: you mean a cd/dvd drive? and what do you mean by "manually"?
[16:28] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: well theres the dont forget the milk plasmoid
[16:28] <Pavel_> iconmefisto: yes, a cd drive.  As in, pushing the drive shut with my hand
[16:29] <iconmefisto> Pavel_: and it shuts down, or you just lose power instantly?
[16:30] <Pavel_> iconmefisto: loses power, I have to unplug/plug in the power adapter and turn it on again
[16:30] <vivekrp__> shadeslayer : can give URL of site?
[16:31] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: the site for the plasmoid or the site for dontforgetthemilk?
[16:31] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: meh its called remember the milk :P
[16:31] <iconmefisto> Pavel_: my guess would be faulty cd drive, or maybe even motherboard or power supply problem
[16:32] <Pavel_> iconmefisto, Yeah, I was kinda afraid it was hardware.  This problem has just started, 3 days ago I burned a few cds with no problem
[16:32] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/
[16:33] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: the plasmoid is in the repos i believe
[16:33] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: apparently im wrong about the plasmoid being in the repos
[16:33] <vivekrp__> shadeslayer : thanks.. i know RememberTheMil.. i also have a a/c there.. but didn't knw abt plasmoid
[16:34] <iconmefisto> Pavel_: does it happen if you open/close the drive tray before the OS has booted (at grub menu or in bios setup)?
[16:34] <vivekrp__> shadeslayer where can i download plasmoid?
[16:34] <shadeslayer> vivekrp__: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Remember+The+Milk+Google+Gadget+Plasmoid?content=101426
[16:35] <vivekrp__> ok. thank you shadeslayer
[16:38] <eitreach> What is the plasmoid called that mimicks the task list of Windows 7?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: hehe sorry i have to trouble you,but i just update the kopete-facebook packages,and youll have to reinstall them again,ill be more carefull from next time ;)
[16:38] <shadeslayer> eitreach: smooth tasks
[16:39] <eitreach> shadeslayer: a great many thanks! :)
[16:39] <shadeslayer> eitreach: it causes plasma to crash on recent KDE 4.4 packages
[16:39] <eitreach> shadeslayer: how about 4.3?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> eitreach: works fine on 4.3
[16:39] <eitreach> shadeslayer: thanks for the heads up.
[16:40] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: cheers for the information, installing the update now :)
[16:40] <shadeslayer> no problem
[16:40] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: do you use choqok too?
[16:40] <shadeslayer> ill be updating those too :)
[16:41] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: not as yet, I am yet to get into the world of blogging..
[16:42] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: micro blogging :)
[16:43] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[16:43] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: hi
[16:43] <phoenix_> hello shadeslayer
[16:43] <phoenix_> how to see the auto start entries in kubuntu
[16:44] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: autostart entries of?
[16:45] <phoenix_> the first program that i created using qt is running automatically when i login, that to 5 instances of it
[16:45] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: blogging/micro-blogging - not sure I want to spread my insanity around the world ;)
[16:45] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: 0_o
[16:45] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: lol
[16:46] <phoenix_> what to show a pic, what is the site to upload it
[16:46] <shadeslayer> !imagebin | phoenix_
[16:46] <phoenix_> thank you
[16:47] <iconmefisto> phoenix_: pastebin plasmoid makes it all very easy too, both for text and images
[16:48] <rethus> how can i use ksnapshot with ctrl+print ? Now it seems only to do a copy to the clipboard
[16:49] <shadeslayer> rethus: weird.. works fine here
[16:49] <phoenix_> try printscreen button
[16:49] <rethus> doesnt work
[16:49] <phoenix_> http://imagebin.org/82275
[16:49] <rethus> where is the adjustment to tell kde which programm to use for snapshots
[16:49] <phoenix_> this is a screenshot of desktop
[16:50] <phoenix_> press the printscreen button
[16:50] <phoenix_> then copy the image to clipboard and then use any image editor
[16:50] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: hmm did you close all of them whem you restarted last time
[16:51] <rethus> phoenix: youve read my posting? i want to use ksnapshot to popup if i press print-button
[16:51] <phoenix_> i close it everytime time when i login everytime
[16:51] <phoenix_> program associations in system settings
[16:51] <phoenix_> i will tell you wait
[16:52] <phoenix_> system settings-> program associations
[16:52] <phoenix_> sorry its default applications
[16:52] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: try killall <your_programme_name> in a terminal
[16:53] <rethus> there is no option to use ksnapshot
[16:53] <phoenix_> do you know where is the autostart entries are present
[16:54] <phoenix_> rethus i found the solution for you
[16:55] <phoenix_> go to system settings->input actions->
[16:55] <iconmefisto> rethus: you can set a shortcut key in systemsettings, kbd & mouse, global kbd shortcuts, or you can set one for ksnapshot in kmenuedit
[16:55] <phoenix_> in the left panel goto present actions
[16:55] <phoenix_> select print screen
[16:56] <phoenix_> on the right side top select the action tab
[16:56] <rethus> phoenix_: there is also a shortcut in kwin-hotkeys.
[16:56] <phoenix_> in the command /url browse and select your program
[16:56] <rethus> but where can i tell which programm to use for making snapshots?
[16:57] <phoenix_> thats what i told you now
[16:57] <phoenix_> did you do what i said
[16:57] <zb> привет всем
[16:57] <rethus> you told me a different key
[16:57] <zb> русских нету?
[16:57] <phoenix_> follow what i said
[16:57] <iconmefisto> !ru
[16:57] <phoenix_> just try this
[16:58] <rethus> so if a key exists, it should also work to change this app which is called... instead of overloading the key-shortcut... maby there some trouble while overloadeing a shortcut
[16:58] <phoenix_> can i connect to your computer using remote desktop and solve your problem'
[16:59] <rethus> phoenix_: like i say... conflict with other global hot-key
[17:00] <phoenix_> what i said was the right way to do it
[17:00] <rethus> i know this way, but i've searched for the clean way via kwin-shortkeys
[17:00] <phoenix_> shadeslayer
[17:00] <rethus> but nevertheless... thanx for your support
[17:01] <phoenix_> wecome
[17:01] <phoenix_> welcome
[17:01] <iconmefisto> rethus: you mean khotkeys? what phoenix_ told you will set a key with khotkeys
[17:02] <phoenix_> no it will change the program associated with the print screen keys
[17:02] <rethus> so i save some time now, and use global keys.. works fine
[17:02] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: ?
[17:03] <phoenix_> about the autostarts..
[17:04] <shadeslayer> phoenix_: oh those,i have no idea,try kquitapp and then relogin... but no idea seriously
[17:04] <phoenix_> ok, im are you using
[17:07] <phoenix_> one i added some dll overrides in wine, after that , i am not able to run any program using wine, when i try to configure wine, the configure dialog box is not opening and wine crashes.can anyone help me to solve this
[17:09] <phoenix_> no one to help  me?
[17:09] <x7m> So, Do i buy a new computer with windows 7 or not?
[17:09] <phoenix_> it depents on your needs
[17:09] <x7m> this system is old
[17:10] <iconmefisto> phoenix_: you could try removing or renaming ~/.wine and start again
[17:11] <iconmefisto> phoenix_: or purge and then reinstall wine
[17:12] <x7m> and there are no needs, just wants and desires.
[17:21] <phoenix_> sorry i way away
[17:21] <phoenix_> some saw something very good
[17:22] <phoenix_> biggest rainbow like circle arounf the moon
[17:22] <phoenix_> around
[17:23] <phoenix_> i will try your idea now
[17:25] <phoenix_> where `/.wine located
[17:25] <phoenix_> iconmefisto
[17:26] <iconmefisto> ~/.wine   ~/ is your home folder
[17:26] <Ahox> phoenix_ in your home
[17:26] <phoenix_> ok, i am searching in my home
[17:27] <iconmefisto> phoenix_: files and directories starting with a . are hidden files/directories
[17:27] <Ahox> phoenix_: just don't forget that .wine is a hidden file
[17:28] <phoenix_> oh, that was a useful info, thanks
[17:29] <phoenix_> is this one?
[17:29] <phoenix_> /home/phoenix/.local/share/applications/wine
[17:30] <iconmefisto> /home/phoenix/.wine
[17:30] <phoenix_> ok
[17:32] <wizkoder> moin
[17:46] <phoenix_> even after i uninstall wine, its not able to run any programs
[17:48] <phoenix_> brb
[18:06] <iconmefisto> anyone get this in printer configuration: http://imagebin.ca/view/eiFdQoq.html  (kde4.4rc2)
[18:17] <antonio_> jhgik
[18:31] <tmray> After I did an update yesterday, because the notification popped up. My computer wont boot all the way. I just get a black screen. Is anyone else having this problem?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> time for my daily walk..bbl
[18:34] <lavin> can someone tell me how i  get into my downloads folder from terminal please
[18:35] <tsimpson> !terminal
[18:35] <tsimpson> the link there give a guide to using the terminal
[18:37] <shadeslayer_> lavin: um : cd /path/to/downloads ?
[18:43] <marcosRz> is only me or OpenOffice is so bugged on Kubuntu?
[18:43] <marcosRz> I mean On Arch it was like using gnome and it was perfect
[18:43] <lavin> shadeslayer_: i sorted it now thanx all the same :)
[18:44] <shadeslayer_> ok
[18:44] <marcosRz> anyone having bugs with oo.org under kubuntu?
[18:51] <iconmefisto> marcosRz: what bugs? what's wrong?
[18:51] <marcosRz> it horrible
[18:51] <marcosRz> I mean
[18:51] <marcosRz> If you ever used gnome oo.org
[18:51] <marcosRz> or arch kde version
[18:51] <FloodBotK1> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <marcosRz> kubuntu kde version sucks so much ;(
[18:51] <marcosRz> I just can't stand
[18:51] <marcosRz> any more
[18:52] <darthanubis> there is a hiiden file in the home dir to control gtk AA in KDE, I don't remember which it is, can someone refresh my memory
[18:52] <darthanubis> my gtk apps fonts are ^%&^$%$
[18:52] <marcosRz> its ridiculous
[18:52] <marcosRz> I'm ffucking stressed
[18:52] <marcosRz> I'm forced to use *buntu
[18:52] <darthanubis> !language
[18:52] <maco> marcosRz: not an excuse to swear in the channel
[18:52] <marcosRz> damn
[18:52] <SnakeATWAR> hey guys
[18:52] <marcosRz> why they dont make stuff work
[18:52] <marcosRz> ?
[18:52] <marcosRz> like on any other distro? I mean Arch works better, OpenSuse too
[18:53] <SnakeATWAR> i just installed kubuntu and i can't get proprietary drivers to activate
[18:53] <darthanubis> marcosRz: use those then
[18:53] <iconmefisto> marcosRz: why complain? do you want help or not?
[18:53] <SnakeATWAR> could someone walk me through the process?
[18:53] <maco> marcosRz: youve given no specific examples of brokenness, so i dont know how we can help
[18:53] <marcosRz> its horrible
[18:53] <SnakeATWAR> i have a ati 4890
[18:53] <maco> perhaps you could file nicely *specific* bug reports regarding our integration?
[18:53] <maco> that is still not specific
[18:54] <marcosRz> I'm using right know env OOO_FORCE_DESKTOp=gnome
[18:54] <marcosRz> because
[18:54] <maco> you dont like our kde theme for it?
[18:54] <marcosRz> Kubuntu is IRESPONSSIBLE, they make sure that OO.org doesnt work correctly under KDE. It's a shame
[18:54] <maco> it doesnt work right?
[18:54] <marcosRz> no its not the kde theme :P
[18:54] <marcosRz> NO
[18:55] <maco> could you give a specific example?
[18:55] <marcosRz> And it works right on OPENSUSE
[18:55] <marcosRz> and Arch
[18:55] <maco> because "doesnt work" is meaningless
[18:55] <maco> you're still not saying anything helpful
[18:55] <marcosRz> menus are not working correctly
[18:55] <maco> how so?
[18:55] <marcosRz> stuff is invisible
[18:55] <marcosRz> and so on
[18:55] <maco> define "stuff"
[18:55] <marcosRz> ok maco
[18:55] <marcosRz> the problem is this
[18:55] <SnakeATWAR> can someone help me please? I can't get proprietary drivers to activate
[18:55] <marcosRz> OpenSuse does quality control
[18:55] <marcosRz> Kubuntu does not
[18:55] <FloodBotK1> marcosRz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <maco> yes we do
[18:55] <SnakeATWAR> i tried turning them on
[18:55] <maco> marcosRz: but we cant fix nonspecific bugs
[18:56] <marcosRz> So what Kubuntu does is that, they put a OO kde theme (ripped from suse)
[18:56] <maco> give me an ACTUAL bug report???
[18:56] <marcosRz> and they think thats KDE OO.org
[18:56] <maco> wth SPECIFICS
[18:56] <maco> dont just say "its broken" as that means NOTHING
[18:56] <marcosRz> maco: I'll give you a bunch
[18:56] <marcosRz> here First bug
[18:56] <maco> say "when i click FOO, such and such happens, but instead BAR should happen"
[18:56] <marcosRz> First BUG: Under QTCurve (Default on KDE) menus just insivible appear or not show, Example langage menu
[18:57] <marcosRz> SECOND BUG: Since some stuff is using QT toolkit the icons and windows gets bigger and eventually dont show the content properly
[18:57] <marcosRz> all of this dont happen on Arch and OpenSuse
[18:57] <maco> i'm pretty sure Oxygen is our default theme, but anyway...
[18:57] <marcosRz> and?
[18:57] <maco> i've nevr had that 2nd thng happen
[18:57] <marcosRz> do you even know whats Qtcurve?
[18:57] <marcosRz> lol
[18:57] <marcosRz> thats why I hate kubuntu
[18:58] <marcosRz> oxygen is the default toolkit but it uses qtcurve to "appear"  to gtk apps
[18:58] <maco> yes, QtCurve is a theme
[18:58] <marcosRz> since OpenOffice is a SWT app (Java --> GTK, in this case) IT'll use qtcurve
[18:58] <marcosRz> no its not
[18:58] <marcosRz> it's a engine
[18:58] <maco> QtCurve is a theme option in Appearance
[18:58] <marcosRz> omg
[18:59] <maco> also, there's not supposed to be anywhere to set a GTK theme in System Settings
[18:59] <marcosRz> thats why I hate kubuntu, and its users
[18:59] <marcosRz> dude
[18:59] <maco> NOT A DUDE
[18:59] <marcosRz> really, just dont talk
[18:59] <marcosRz> if you don't know
[18:59] <marcosRz> dont call qtcurve a theme
[18:59] <maco> unless you went and installed something extra and then screwed with its "automatically make gtk look like qt" settings
[18:59] <marcosRz> dude
[18:59] <SnakeATWAR> marcosRz:  can you please go somewhere else, ther are some people here who actually WANT help
[18:59] <maco> ugh. i just set my qt theme to qtcurve and good lord is it ugly
[18:59] <marcosRz> i want help too SnakeATWAR, but it seems that this channel dont have anyone that knows what they're doing here
[19:00] <maco> anyway, what is supposed to be invisible in OOo?
[19:00] <marcosRz> maco: please don't try to help ppl when you don't have knowledge
[19:00] <SnakeATWAR> i can't get proprietary drivers to work :(
[19:00]  * maco *still* not a dude
[19:00] <SnakeATWAR> i click enable and nothing happens
[19:00] <maco> SnakeATWAR: which?
[19:00] <SnakeATWAR> ati radeon
[19:00] <SnakeATWAR> i have 4890
[19:01] <marcosRz> So whats happening is that OO.org uses SWT which will be presented via the qtengine to match your KDE Theme (by default), so the problem that there are major bugs on using qt widgets inside Oo.org.
[19:01] <SnakeATWAR> x64
[19:01] <SnakeATWAR> amd x4 phenom 2 955
[19:01] <SnakeATWAR> 4gb ram
[19:01] <Riddell> marcosRz: you're wrong and your negative attitude isn't helping
[19:01] <maco> SnakeATWAR: so you're trying to use fglrx then? hrmph. im not sure about those. i was hoping youd say a wireless driver i knew how to deal with :(
[19:02] <marcosRz> ok I"m wrong, tell me where please? I'm wrong to be forced to use *buntu at work
[19:02] <SnakeATWAR> nah the "hardware drivers" for ati radeons
[19:03] <Riddell> marcosRz: openoffice isn't using SWT.  It isn't a gnome app.  the KDE port was done by Kubuntu and suse copied it off us.
[19:03] <marcosRz> Omg
[19:03] <marcosRz> HOLy SHIt
[19:03] <snarkster> having a problem printing to a network printer from Ooo.org but can export pdf and print that Anybody else having issues with this?
[19:03] <maco> marcosRz: no swearing
[19:03] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: there is a commandline version called "jockey-text" you may have better luck with that
[19:03] <maco> you've been told before
[19:03] <SnakeATWAR> how do i do that iconmefisto?
[19:03] <SnakeATWAR> sorry i am relative noob
[19:04] <marcosRz> I don't believe that I'm reading this
[19:04] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: in konsole, type jockey-text --help to see the options
[19:04] <maco> marcosRz: i know the person who did the kde port. Riddell is right
[19:04] <maco> he's a kubuntu guy
[19:05] <SnakeATWAR> ah k thanks iconmefisto :) its searching now
[19:05] <marcosRz> it's a swt app with c++
[19:05] <marcosRz> and OpenSuse version is way better IMO
[19:05] <maco> whether you believe that you are wrong does not change the fact that you are :)
[19:05] <marcosRz> and their version just works
[19:05] <marcosRz> while kubuntu doesnt :P
[19:05] <tsimpson> patches are welcome
[19:05] <maco> you still havent been explicit in describing what doesnt work
[19:05] <marcosRz> I already did it
[19:05] <maco> you say something is invisible.
[19:05] <marcosRz> :P
[19:05] <SnakeATWAR> iconmefisto: it lists xorg:fglrx, how do i enable it?
[19:05] <Riddell> an explanation of an actual problem is welcome, moaning isn't
[19:06] <Pici> marcosRz: You don't need to believe  it, but if the Kubuntu developers here say that its not, then its probably not.
[19:06] <maco> well, ive got qtcurve set, and ive got OOo up, and my menus sure aren't blank
[19:06] <marcosRz> dude
[19:06] <marcosRz> maco: please don't answer me :)
[19:06] <maco> Pici: heh yeah that fact that he's arguing with Riddell is kinda funny, isnti?
[19:06] <shadeslayer_> marcosRz: works fine here too
[19:06] <marcosRz> Well I'm used to other distros like arch :P
[19:06] <marcosRz> and on arch it works better even being vanilla
[19:06] <marcosRz> so what happen is simple
[19:07] <marcosRz> Kubuntu "patches" made OO.org not working
[19:07] <tsimpson> no more from you
[19:07] <maco> Riddell: no need to give me +o. i have op-ability in this channel :P
[19:08] <Riddell> oh well, fun over, back to coding :)
[19:08] <snarkster> OO works fine on my system excpet printing to network printer.
[19:08] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: hehe..
[19:08] <shadeslayer_> tsimpson: you took the fun out of #kubuntu :P
[19:08] <maco> now...back to Oxygen
[19:08]  * tsimpson brings order to chaos, resistance is futile
[19:09] <shadeslayer_> back to.. um.... updating the docbook... *hides*
[19:09] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: jockey-text -e xorg:fglrx  ?? or maybe just fglrx, not sure
[19:09] <snarkster> and my question goes un answered again. LOL gotta love this place
[19:09] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: you probably will need to put "sudo" ahead of that command
[19:09] <maco> im thinking of when the Sanderson sisters in the movie Hocus Pocus want to keep the teenagers who are annoying them in cages and play with them
[19:10] <maco> snarkster: do other things print to network printer?
[19:10] <SnakeATWAR> k thanks... i think its working now iconmefisto
[19:10] <SnakeATWAR> its looks like its enabling it or something
[19:12] <snarkster> maco yes
[19:12] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: jockey-text -l   should list proprietary drivers and whether they are enabled or not
[19:13] <snarkster> as my original question stated I can print exported pdfs from oketa, just cant print from writer or any other OO app.
[19:13] <SnakeATWAR> it's not doing anything now iconmefisto
[19:13] <SnakeATWAR> ...
[19:14] <snarkster> oketa??? wth did that come from.. meant okular
[19:16] <shadeslayer_> snarkster: ok 1) which card do you have?
[19:17] <shadeslayer_> oh wait
[19:17] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: 1) what card do you have?
[19:20] <snarkster> network card??
[19:20] <snarkster> i have no idea.. the network works just fine..
[19:20] <shadeslayer_> snarkster: bad tab complete :)
[19:20] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer_: I think he got the driver enabled and is rebooting
[19:20] <snarkster> LOL
[19:20] <shadeslayer_> oh
[19:20] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: but : 00:43 < SnakeATWAR> it's not doing anything now iconmefisto
[19:21] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer_: yeah, just after that he PM'd me
[19:25] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: oh..
[19:29] <iconmefisto> that whining marcos guy was annoying but kind of fun :)
[19:31] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: i would agree
[19:31] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: but now he is simply annoying
[19:32] <maco> iconmefisto: he's still whinging in my PM buffer
[19:32] <maco> he actually did find 1 bug, which i finally got him to give me a screenshot for
[19:32] <iconmefisto> really?? wow
[19:33] <maco> but he refuses to file it, because he doesnt have time to file all these bugs
[19:33] <maco> you know... because 2 minutes per bug is just FOREVER
[19:33] <shadeslayer_> hehe
[19:34] <iconmefisto> maco: whinging? are you australian?
[19:34] <maco> iconmefisto: no
[19:34] <maco> but most of my friends are not USian
[19:34] <maco> so i use words most USians don't
[19:42] <soee> if i want to add gmail widget on my desktop i have this error message: Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the gmail-plasmoid widget. Any ide hot to solve it ?
[19:42] <hish> hey I have install kubuntu 9.10 on Dell E5400 but i have a problem in the sound
[19:42] <hish> please can help
[19:43] <shadeslayer_> soee: yeah kdebindings are not compiling which causes that error
[19:43] <shadeslayer_> !sound | hish
[19:43] <ankt> hello
[19:44] <soee> shadeslayer_: is there any fix or shall i wait till final 4.4 ?
[19:45] <Tm_T> soee: wait for next RC (:
[19:45] <soee> Tm_T: rc2 was the last one from rc or am i wrong ?
[19:46] <Tm_T> rc3 will come this weekend
[19:47] <soee> Tm_T: U sure ? :-)
[19:48] <tsimpson> soee: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Release_Schedule
[19:48] <Tm_T> soee: well, I have no idea if Kubuntu packages will come but... (:
[19:48] <soee> tsimpson: yes iv just cheked this
[19:48] <shadeslayer_> soee: youll have to wait
[19:48] <shadeslayer_> Tm_T: um no more RC's
[19:49] <Tm_T> shadeslayer_: trust me, there will be rc3
[19:49] <hish> shadeslayer_:  i have a sound running but the sound quialty bad
[19:49] <soee> well there is in shcedule rc3
[19:49] <shadeslayer_> Tm_T: well according to the schedule theres no RC3
[19:49] <soee> shadeslayer_: there is :)
[19:49] <Tm_T> shadeslayer_: read again
[19:49] <shadeslayer_> soee: wow... thats new... must be alot of showstopper bugs :P
[19:49] <Tm_T> no, only kdebindings, really (:
[19:50] <soee> shadeslayer_: yeah there was no rc3 2 days ago
[19:50] <nixDah> hello tsimpson
[19:50] <nixDah> :D
[19:50] <nixDah> guess whos this?
[19:50] <shadeslayer_> tsimpson: lol... he could be someone else :P
[19:50] <shadeslayer_> +have been
[19:51] <SnakeATWAR> in kde, is there a way to drag windows from desktop to desktop like it was in compiz?
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> though thats unlikely
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: yep
[19:51] <SnakeATWAR> how do enable that? lol
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: its default behavious
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> *behaviour
[19:52] <SnakeATWAR> really? its not seeming to work for me?
[19:52] <SnakeATWAR> i drag the window right, and it doesn't turn
[19:52] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: oh you need to add the pager widget to completely drag the window to the second desktop
[19:52] <SnakeATWAR> pager widget? is that under options?
[19:53] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: add widgets > pager widget
[19:53] <SnakeATWAR> oh ok thanks :)
[19:53] <iconmefisto> I see that option under screen edges settings "switch desktop on edge"
[19:54] <Tm_T> aye
[19:54] <SnakeATWAR> and where is that iconmefisto? sorry for the noobness
[19:55] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: thats different
[19:56] <SnakeATWAR> i have pager now but it still wont work
[19:56] <slow-motion> n8
[19:56] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer_: how is it different? drag a window to screen edge and it moves to the next desktop
[19:57] <torasuku> I just upgraded using the Beta PPA, and now when I login I get basically two instances of KDE loading, screenshot should help explain it. http://omploader.org/vM2RxMw
[19:58] <SnakeATWAR> i can't figure this out :/
[19:58] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: it also moves to the next desktop if you just take your mouse to the edge
[19:58] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: ok well you have to ways,a widget way and the mouse way :P
[19:58] <SnakeATWAR> lol i have pager... hehe
[19:59] <SnakeATWAR> i might not be using it correctly though
[19:59] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer_: I have 3 options: disabled, only when moving windows, always enabled
[19:59] <shadeslayer_> iconmefisto: havent seen that option yet
[19:59] <SnakeATWAR> i want to be able to drag a window around the corner of the cube onto a different virtual desktop lol
[20:00] <SnakeATWAR> where do i find this iconmefisto?
[20:00] <shadeslayer_> SnakeATWAR: on the pager just select the window you want to drag and drag it
[20:01] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: right-click titlebar, configure window behaviour. then go to "screen edges"
[20:02] <SnakeATWAR> i am in kde, not compiz, mind you
[20:02] <SnakeATWAR> are you talking about kde? lol
[20:02] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: you don't see that option?
[20:02] <SnakeATWAR> i don't see window behavior
[20:02] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: like you did to enable compositing
[20:03] <SnakeATWAR> i am there
[20:03] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: do you see screen edges?
[20:03] <SnakeATWAR> not really :/ xD
[20:04] <SnakeATWAR> lol
[20:04] <iconmefisto> ok maybe that's just kde4.4rc2
[20:04] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: try systemsettings, desktop
[20:05] <SnakeATWAR> k
[20:05] <SnakeATWAR> YAY
[20:05] <SnakeATWAR> lol
[20:05] <SnakeATWAR> it works
[20:06] <SnakeATWAR> how do i enable desktop switching via kb shortcut?
[20:07] <SnakeATWAR> i want to be able to via ctrl alt arrows
[20:07] <iconmefisto> same settings dialog, multiple desktops, "switching" tab
[20:08] <SnakeATWAR> oh and if i do the screen edges thing no matter which side i go to, it always sends me to the right
[20:09] <SnakeATWAR> i don't see a switching tab :/
[20:09] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. it also switches when you drag to top or bottom of the screen
[20:10] <SnakeATWAR> oh it looks like the virtual desktops aren't recognizing the cube format
[20:10] <soee> 4.4.61 (ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.4.61/src/) will be rc3?
[20:10] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: this is what mine looks like: http://imagebin.ca/view/cIceVp.html
[20:11] <Daskreech> SnakeATWAR: if you have them set as two columns one row it acts like that
[20:11] <Daskreech> soee: no
[20:11] <SnakeATWAR> how do i change the layout? and we must have different kde's iconmefisto
[20:12] <omfgBBQ> hello guys \o/
[20:12] <omfgBBQ> I'm back
[20:12] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: yes I have kde4.4rc2
[20:13] <Daskreech> soee: ack wait 4.4.61 then yes :)
[20:13] <soee> Daskreech: :)
[20:13] <SnakeATWAR> i can't change the layout :/ lol
[20:14] <Daskreech> I thought it was 4.3.61
[20:14] <Daskreech> SnakeATWAR: the desktop layout?
[20:14] <SnakeATWAR> yeah... like change it to 1 row or cube
[20:15] <SnakeATWAR> OH
[20:15] <SnakeATWAR> i figured it out
[20:15] <SnakeATWAR> i had 1 pager options windows open
[20:16] <SnakeATWAR> got it now xD
[20:17] <SnakeATWAR> now what do i do about the keyboard shortcuts?
[20:17] <Daskreech> Set it from Keyboard Global Shortcuts I guess
[20:17] <SnakeATWAR> i'm sorry but where is that?
[20:18] <SnakeATWAR> found it
[20:18] <Daskreech> SnakeATWAR: press alt+F2 and type global
[20:18] <iconmefisto> SnakeATWAR: kde component: KWin
[20:20] <SnakeATWAR> k! got it hooraa!
[20:20]  * SnakeATWAR is a happy camper
[20:22] <SnakeATWAR> one more question: about quassel
[20:22] <darthanubis> antialiasing in gtk apps anyone here have a link to making the fonts in firefox look as good as the fonts in konq?
[20:22] <Daskreech> Shoot
[20:22] <darthanubis> please
[20:22] <SnakeATWAR> can i tile chat windows or can i only view one at a time
[20:22] <Daskreech> qtcurve
[20:22] <Daskreech> SnakeATWAR: You mean detach the tabs?
[20:22] <SnakeATWAR> yes
[20:22] <darthanubis> I'm not concerned with the window themes just the fonts
[20:22] <darthanubis> specifically AA
[20:23] <soee> anyone here using kubuntu 10.04 a2 ?
[20:23] <darthanubis> soee: I was gettign ready to
[20:23] <genii> soee: Yes, but you'll likely find more in #ubuntu+1
[20:23] <soee> genii: i just want to know how it works now? a lot of bugs etc?
[20:24] <darthanubis> .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 << this file is suposed to handle my issue but the fonts still are horrible
[20:25] <darthanubis> I don't want to go back to Gnome:(
[20:25]  * darthanubis crying
[20:25] <genii> soee: I'm having plasma-desktop crashes right now. So buggy, yes. Further 10.04 questions should be in #ubuntu+1 (which is also #kubuntu+1)
[20:26] <darthanubis> Last time I "solved" this isue I had installed most of gnomes dependecies anyway
[20:26] <soee> genii: ok thnx
[20:26] <darthanubis> soee: plasma is going to crash until FEB9th
[20:26] <darthanubis> when it is released
[20:26] <soee> darthanubis: u are refering to kde 4.4 ?
[20:28] <darthanubis> soee: yes
[20:33] <Kanguru> hi there
[20:34] <Kanguru> is there anyone here?
[20:35] <iconmefisto> 262 users
[20:35] <gortchakov> yé im here
[20:36] <Kanguru> cool, im wondering, which ubuntu should i choose?
[20:36] <gortchakov> somebody can help me please
[20:36] <Kanguru> ill try to help :)
[20:36] <gortchakov> i'm using kubuntu
[20:36] <shadeslayer> !anyone | gortchakov
[20:36] <gortchakov> do you speak french
[20:37] <gortchakov> ??
[20:37] <genii> !fr
[20:37] <Kanguru> oui, quelle est le probleme?
[20:38] <gortchakov> est-ce que tu sais sur quel reseaux je doi aller pour dl sur xdcc
[20:38] <Kanguru> un instant, nous allons continuons nos conversation par PM ok?
[20:39] <gortchakov> ok
[20:45] <Kanguru> can anyone give me some reasons why i should choose kubuntu and not ubuntu?
[20:46] <Pici> Your nick starts with a K?
[20:46] <Kanguru> lol, thats a coincidence :D
[20:46] <omfgBBQ> well if you 're on a kde channel ppl will tell Kubuntu and on ubuntu ppl will tell Ubuntu
[20:46] <gspr> Kanguru: you prefer KDE to Gnome, perhaps?
[20:46] <omfgBBQ> I think you should try both :D
[20:46] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: cuz youre on #kubuntu and not #ubuntu
[20:47] <Kanguru> k, ill ask this then, i heard that on opensuse u can always install the latest stable KDE when its available, but not in kubuntu :S
[20:48] <omfgBBQ> well
[20:48] <omfgBBQ> I was banned about 30 min ago saying something like that
[20:48] <omfgBBQ> openSUSE Kde integration is better :3
[20:49] <Pici> Kanguru: We strive for stability, which may not always be the latest.  There are respositories for the latest KDE releases though.
[20:49] <omfgBBQ> but
[20:49] <omfgBBQ> I preffer *debian based, because I dont like yast and rpm distros
[20:50] <Kanguru> can u explain Pici? so opensuse always gives u the latest kde, but with unstability like bugs?
[20:51] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: what version of KDE would you like?
[20:51] <omfgBBQ> openSUSE gives you a cool integration with KDE
[20:51] <omfgBBQ> Novell treats KDE`s more professionally than Canonical
[20:52] <Pici> omfgBBQ: Do you have anything constructive to say here?
[20:52] <shadeslayer> omfgBBQ: seriously dont want to argue
[20:52] <Kanguru> shadeslayer, good question, idk tbh, my logic tells me u should always be using the latest stable version
[20:52] <Pici> !latest
[20:52] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: are you a developera?
[20:52] <shadeslayer> *developer
[20:53] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ask yourself this,can you spend time reporting bugs and fixing minor issues? and the answer will come to you automatically
[20:54] <Kanguru> no i cant
[20:54] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: Also we offer whatever KDE has released recently,for eg : we have 4.3.5 and 4.4 RC2 respectively in the repos
[20:55] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: so youll want the latest bug fix release which is 4.3.5,which is available and can be easily installed
[20:55] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ill tell you my personal experience with suse..
[20:55] <Kanguru> ok :)
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: their repo system and packaging system is absymal... i couldnt understand it one bit
[20:56] <Kanguru> what does absymal mean? bad?
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: just to install one bugfix release i had to browser about 3 wiki pages
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: yes :P
[20:56] <Kanguru> ah, really bad? :p
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: more appropriate is hopeless :)
[20:57] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: but kubuntu puts bug fix releases in one repo and RC's in another... which is about it
[20:57] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: hold on ill give you a glimpse of their repos
[20:57] <Kanguru> ok thx :)
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: then for KDE they have : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/
[20:58] <Kanguru> why doesnt that link open in my browser? :s
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: eh?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ok try the second link
[20:59] <Kanguru> same problem :s
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ok well.. whats the problem?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: does it say anything?
[21:00] <Kanguru> no, its just that nothing happens
[21:01] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: which browser?
[21:01] <Kanguru> chromium
[21:01] <Kanguru> but it might be a setting in xchat
[21:01] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: same browser.. opens just fine
[21:01] <Kanguru> shade, u on kubuntu?
[21:01] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: yea
[21:02] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: well all in all there are 3 repos for KDE 4.x
[21:02] <Kanguru> and isnt it annoying that u always have manually update chromium?
[21:02] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: also you can install the factory packages....
[21:02] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: um nope
[21:02] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: i just use CLI all the time
[21:02] <Kanguru> lemme google that :p
[21:02] <Kanguru> oh
[21:03] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: google what?
[21:03] <Kanguru> cli :d
[21:03] <Kanguru> sorry lol
[21:03] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: hehe... its Command line interface
[21:03] <shadeslayer> !cli | Kanguru
[21:03] <Kanguru> so u update it like everyday with the cli?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: yeah
[21:03] <Kanguru> wow
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: well im kinda like a developer in training :P
[21:04] <Kanguru> and do u always have to remake ur bookmarks?
[21:04] <Kanguru> nice! :)
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: i build packages,update my svn checkouts,update etc
[21:04] <Kanguru> nice man!!!
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: remake bookmarks?
[21:04] <Kanguru> yeah
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ill be going in 5 mins ..
[21:05] <Kanguru> or do ur bookmarks get saved in each update u do with the cli?
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: i dont understand that
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: yea
[21:05] <Kanguru> awesome
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: bookmarks and the install are  seprate...
[21:05] <Kanguru> cool
[21:06] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: bookmarks are stored in your home folder... the updates affect the executables in /bin/
[21:06] <Kanguru> thx, im learning a lot ^
[21:06] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: cool... i would suggest reading the ubuntu wiki's etc
[21:06] <shadeslayer> !wiki | Kanguru
[21:07] <Kanguru> thx man
[21:07] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: those are *very* good sites...
[21:07] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: we also have forums where you can ask for assistance
[21:07] <shadeslayer> !forums | Kanguru
[21:07] <Kanguru> ubottu is a bot?
[21:07] <Kanguru> i love this chat!!
[21:08] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: yes
[21:08] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: if you want more info,just query ubottu
[21:08] <shadeslayer> !bot | Kanguru
[21:08] <Kanguru> tyvm
[21:08] <Kanguru> 1 more thing
[21:08] <Kanguru> which office suit should i install?
[21:08] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: nice chatting to you but now ive gtg... there are more people to help you out here :)
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: well if you like kde apps use koffice
[21:09] <Kanguru> ok, tyvm and goodnight and such
[21:09] <Kanguru> and otherwise?
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: else open office is installed by default
[21:09] <greyhat> Hey all
[21:09] <Kanguru> ok thx
[21:09] <shadeslayer> openoffice has more features
[21:09] <Kanguru> ur colornick changed :o
[21:10] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: ?
[21:10] <Kanguru> shadeslayer appeared in yellow
[21:11] <shadeslayer> Kanguru: youre using quassel?
[21:11] <Kanguru> xchat
[21:11] <Kanguru> is quassel better?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> well different clients are good in their own respect
[21:11] <shadeslayer> i like irssi
[21:11] <shadeslayer> :)
[21:11] <Kanguru> ok
[21:11] <shadeslayer_> bye :)
[21:11] <Kanguru> cya
[21:11] <Kanguru> and ty
[21:12] <shadeslayer_> :D
[21:23] <SnakeATWAR> where do i get the wallpapers like globe and virus?
[21:24] <tsimpson> try http://kde-look.org/ or right-click the desktop -> Desktop Settings -> Get New Wallpapers
[21:26] <SnakeATWAR> thanks :)
[21:26] <SnakeATWAR> wasn't sure if it had the kde4 animated bg's
[21:30] <comedit> is there a simple way to export all configuration in contact and use it for a new setup ?
[21:30] <comedit> kontact
[21:30] <fruitmmmm> hi, um can someone help me please, i'm a nub and cannot get sound to work with flash even though i've read most of the articles that i can find and none of them are useful since most are for older versions of ubuntu
[21:31] <fruitmmmm> : (
[21:31] <comedit> go to howtoforge.com and look for the perfect setup of (k)ubuntu setup and your version
[21:46] <comedit> Is there any smart way to export config out of kontact to use for a new setup ?
[21:46] <comedit> I cant't find any
[21:49] <Tm_T> comedit: single contact?
[21:50] <comedit> no multiple dimap
[21:50] <comedit> disconnected imap
[21:51] <comedit> so i ca leave the mail
[21:51] <comedit> but i just want to not redo all accounts 9more then 10 and identities selection of sent folder etc
[21:51] <Tm_T> comedit: you want dimap settings exported? or those contacts without using dimap in this new setup?
[21:52] <comedit> just dimap, accounts and isentities
[21:53] <comedit> the contacts are all from a egroupware server as well as the calendar
[21:53] <Tm_T> hmh, I have forgotten these things, brrrrh
[21:53] <Tm_T> have you asked in #kde ?
[21:54] <comedit> good idea
[21:54] <rethus> i have done some updates, mut still have firefox 3.5.7 is this up to date or there are newer one
[21:54] <comedit> i will open op a new tab there :)
[21:54] <Tm_T> rethus: not in Karmic directly
[21:55] <rethus> Tm_T: means?
[21:55] <rethus> have to add external repo from mozilla?
[21:56] <Tm_T> rethus: not mozilla, but yes external repository
[21:57] <WaltzingAlong> Tm_T: rethus: so not from either the ubuntu mozilla security team's ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[21:57] <Tm_T> rethus: somewhere is ubuntu mozilla team PPA repository, I cannot find direct url right now though
[21:57] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: cannot remember
[21:58] <Kanguru> !stable
[21:59] <WaltzingAlong> !instable
[22:05] <greyhat> How do i change the defualt soundcard ?
[22:11] <KDE4Life> salutations people =D
[22:13] <WaltzingAlong> rethus: there are always newer ones; should be fine enough
[22:13] <KDE4Life> anyone know how to get KDE 4.4 RC1 to run in Kubuntu 9.10?
[22:14] <rethus> ok, thanks
[22:14] <Lykanthrop> Hi there.
[22:15] <Lykanthrop> Someone here who can help me with a prob in KMail?
[22:15] <KDE4Life> KDE 4.3.5 is released, and i'm still on 4.3.2
[22:15] <lucia_> KDE4Life: go to kubuntu.org
[22:15] <KDE4Life> lucia_, ok and...
[22:16] <lucia_> add the ppa repo..it's now RC2
[22:16] <reagleBRKLN> i've upgrade to 4.4sc2 but i've lost sound in all my non-kde apps like virtualbox, mplayer, xine, etc. They used to use arts, what to do now?
[22:16] <KDE4Life> ooh! i'll have to add that, when i boot back into Kubuntu.
[22:16] <KDE4Life> i'm on windows atm XD
[22:16] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: no those didn't use arts
[22:17] <Lykanthrop> no one can help me with KMail?
[22:17] <Lykanthrop> :(
[22:17] <reagleBRKLN> Tm_Tr: in my mplayer.conf it said ao=ats
[22:17] <Kanguru> KDE4Life, ull have to wait till canonical officialy updates it
[22:17] <reagleBRKLN> No such audio driver 'arts'
[22:17] <ToxinPowe> How can I see this video with Kubuntu? http://www.apple.com/ipad/#video
[22:17] <Tm_T> !kde3 | reagleBRKLN
[22:18] <KDE4Life> Kanguru, yay...that probably means i'll be waiting untill 10.04 *sigh*
[22:18] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: KDE 4.3.5 is in karmic-backports
[22:18] <lucia_> KDE4Life: enable karmic backports and you canb get 4.3.5
[22:18] <reagleBRKLN> ....? confused. i see some messages that arts went away in kde 4.4, wondering what do I do now?
[22:18] <KDE4Life> TM_Ti found the packages or whatever on Kubuntus website. i'm gonna upgrade it to 4.4rc2
[22:19] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: roger
[22:19] <lucia_> KDE4life: if you want 4.4 rc* then add the kubuntu-ppa/beta
[22:19] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: arts has never been in KDE4
[22:19] <KDE4Life> lucia_, will do.
[22:19] <reagleBRKLN> Tm_T: well, stuff used to work before I moved to KDE4.4
[22:20] <KDE4Life> brb. i'm gonna reboot into Kubuntu
[22:20] <Lykanthrop> Still asking if someone could help me with KMail!
[22:20] <Tm_T> reagleBRKLN: what happens if you reinstall arts?
[22:21] <lucia_> lykan: if u don't say your prob noone can help u
[22:21] <reagleBRKLN> there is no arts package
[22:22] <reagleBRKLN> what does KDE 4.4 use that I could pass to mplayer -ao, don't hear anything with alsa, esd, pulse
[22:22] <Lykanthrop> well. when i'm writing an e-mail in html everything formatting works well except for indent. the buttons for "increase indent"/"decrease indent" are not enabled.
[22:23] <Lykanthrop> and i actually need that feature for the mail i'm writing to a business partner
[22:24] <reagleBRKLN> i have sound in KDE itself, and amarok....
[22:25] <lucia_> lykan*:sorry but i don't use kmail. someone might see your problem now and cud help you
[22:26] <lucia_> reagle*: KDE uses phonon better
[22:26]  * KDE4Life is installing KDE 3.5
[22:26] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: ?
[22:26] <reagleBRKLN> do I need to install and mess with pulse for non-KDE apps to work?
[22:27] <KDE4Life> Tm_T, lol. i'm looking for something faster. i still like KDE, so i might as well try 3.5...again.
[22:27] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: faster?
[22:27] <KDE4Life> Tm_T, 3.5 was faster the last time i used it.
[22:27] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: faster how?
[22:28] <KDE4Life> Tm_T, idk. it just is.
[22:28] <Tm_T> KDE4Life: ah, it feels faster, you mean?
[22:28] <WaltzingAlong> faster always means 'seems more responsive' in these cases
[22:28] <KDE4Life> Tm_T, yeah! that.
[22:29] <Tm_T> glad KDE4 feels fast in this old laptop (:
[22:29] <KDE4Life> although KDE4 is probably just bogged down with programs considering i have 3 desktop enviroments installed.
[22:29] <WaltzingAlong> which effects should that have?
[22:30] <KDE4Life> brb
[22:30] <lucia_> KDE4life: does it mean you have to change your nick to kde3* :P
[22:31] <Lykanthrop> @kde4life: do you use kmail? cause you maybe could help me with a problem.
[22:32] <KDE4Life> Lykanthrop, naah. i use thunderbird.
[22:32] <lucia_> lykan: i use thunderbird and webmail
[22:32] <Lykanthrop> :(
[22:32] <KDE4Life> brb again. i have to go change something.
[22:33] <lucia_> lykan: last time i used kmail..can't use imap for my gmail
[22:35] <Lykanthrop> a friend of mine actually uses kmail with gmail imap oO
[22:35] <maco> so?
[22:35] <maco> i use kmail dimap with gmail imap
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> you are probably not the only two
[22:36] <maco> oh. html mail? no idea
[22:36] <maco> i dont even let kmail display html email, let alone produce it
[22:39] <WaltzingAlong> referring to kmail + gmail's imap
[22:40] <WaltzingAlong> as for html email, yeah disabled here as well
[22:47] <Lykanthrop> very bad...
[22:48] <Lykanthrop> rly need this for a business mail...
[22:48] <Lykanthrop> seems like i have to boot up windows
[22:48] <Lykanthrop> or at least have to install some other mail client on my linux-machine
[22:52] <jmux_> Hi. I'm on Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.4rc2. It seems that all "authorization" dialogs of KDE (kmail, kwallet, etc) have ceased functioning. If I enter my IMAP-PW for kmail and press ok, nothing happens. kwalletd uses 75% of CPU until I cancel the request (the other 25% are claimed by xorg). Since I can't remember, when I really used them last time, I can't tell, if it's really a 4.4rc problem. Any ideas how to debug this problem?
[23:31] <jschall> what's the best DLNA media server to run on linux?
[23:32] <ilumi> whats dlna
[23:34] <sven_oostenbrink> Anything known about new intel GFX drivers for 9.10? Im on the verge of insanity with this current @(#$* driver.. everything lags, video, 3d, 2d, even keyboard.. When just moving cursor, with the arrow key, the cursor moves... stops.. waits 2-3 seconds.. moves one character.. another.. then continues for 2 seconds normal and again lag...
[23:35] <greyhat> How do i make forefox to open the map after i have finnish downloaded the file im downloading ?
[23:36] <sven_oostenbrink> greyhat: I have heard of firefox and foreskin, but I've never heard of forefox..
[23:36] <greyhat> yeye whatever
[23:36] <sven_oostenbrink> greyhat: anyway, that may be a question for #firefox?
[23:37] <greyhat> Thanks
[23:38] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: have you tried xorg-edgers PPA?
[23:39] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: would that be deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu karmic main ?
[23:39] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: yup
[23:39] <sven_oostenbrink> tried it, barely better, and makes X crash and restart every 10 minutes, so its kind of far from what I would call "improvement"
[23:40] <sven_oostenbrink> what I don't get is.. 8.04 and 8.10 were excelent.. my very same laptop was speedy, no problems whatsoever..
[23:40] <sven_oostenbrink> ever since 9.04 (which was a major driver disaster by the way) my GFX has been problematic at best..
[23:41] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: and thjaeger/xorg-xi2? These are the packages I based my xorg-server build on (and intel 2.9.1)
[23:42] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: the what?
[23:42] <jmux_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/thjaeger/xorg-xi2/ubuntu
[23:42] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: no idea, but after one week of typing 10 characters and waiting 3 seconds for the screen to catch up with me, I'll try kerosine if I have to
[23:43] <jmux_> Contains a xserver-xorg 1.7, but last time I checked, there wasn't any intel driver included, so I had to build my own
[23:44] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: so I'll have to build my own driver form source?
[23:44] <jmux_> For 9.10 I just had graphics 1 out of 10 times
[23:44] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: ah, so Im not alone! We should start a victims group...
[23:44] <jmux_> Rebuild should be fine (dpkg-buildpackage)
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> 9.10 has been blasphemy
[23:45] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: But just so I get it, with this repo, I have to install xorg-xi2, and then manually compile an intel driver?
[23:46] <jmux_> The video and input APIs changed for xserver 1.7, so you have to rebuild xserver, input and videod drivers
[23:46] <sven_oostenbrink> Is there an "easy" way to go back to the current setting? As badly as I want to change, I cant find myself without GUI at all
[23:46] <jmux_> Took me a day, but know it's working again
[23:46] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: I don't suppose there is some sweeet document that can tell me what to do?
[23:47] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: I'll invest a day, because I loose half a day every day on this @(#*$ interface.. but I need to be sure I'm not going to be left with a dead laptop :)
[23:49] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: no insurance - are you familliar with building packages? I can send you my diff.gz (1.2 MB).
[23:50] <jmux_> I'm on a 16kB Upstream line, so publishing the whole archive isn't possible (+ 100MB)
[23:50] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: Im reasonably familiar with the build process, but I think the problem here is.. where to even start?
[23:51] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: would it not be easier (and saver maybe even) to try lucid?
[23:53] <BluesKaj> strange, my etc/fstab doesn't appear to be active ...it's blank in kate , but gedit shows the entries as just plain black text
[23:53] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: up to you - it wasn't that much: libdmx libxxf86dga x11proto-dmx x11proto-xf86dga xorg-server xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-keyboard xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[23:54] <sven_oostenbrink> jmux_: I'll download kubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 iimages just to be sure :)
[23:54] <jmux_> sven_oostenbrink: And I'm still using the xorg-edgers for Mesa and Drm updates