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spmyeah - mismatch between reporting bugs and expectations of fixes etc00:00
aliguorispm, yeah, i understand, and have the same concern00:01
spmjust thinking of possible ways forward here...00:03
spmone is to contact the community folks; I'm guessing they have experience in these style issues; and may be able to offer useful advice. ???00:04
aliguoriwell, i've already closed the bugs so hopefully, no action is needed.  if they get reopened then i'll come back here and see about getting some advise00:04
spmone other alt is to possibly throw the line like: I won't fix this; you have the source you're more than welcome to have a go; but re-opening the bug won't get it fixed. sorry. Which is harsh as written, but you get the gist.00:05
aliguoriyeah00:08
spmmy other advice would be to not get into an argument with them. you won't convince them, hence trying is pointless. state your case and walk away. :-(00:11
mrandWe can't seem to find a way to have the bugs for the generic Mythbuntu distro show up here:  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-bugs/+packagebugs   is there a way to do that, or is that an oversight/feature request?00:16
wgrantmrand: The Mythbuntu project is not a package, so it would not make much sense for it to show up on a listing of package bugs.02:23
wgrantHowever, it is probably suboptimal that the page is specifically for packages.02:23
mrandwgrant: thanks for responding.  Yes, as you may have been able to tell, we have a bug team, and they are responsible for multiple items... hence the desire to have it listed there.  Where would be the right place to make this suggestion/request?  LP ticket, or elsewhere?02:25
wgrantmrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug, I suspect.02:26
mrandcool.  thanks again.02:27
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doctormowgrant, lifeless: If you wanted to see what I was working on: http://blip.tv/dashboard/episode/316122702:42
wgrantdoctormo: It wants me to log in.02:47
doctormohttp://blip.tv/file/314162902:47
doctormowrong link, sorry02:47
stochasticI'm trying to merge two bzr branches that are housed in launchpad.  I have write access to the one that is being merged into (trunk) and have proposed the second branch for merging.  Do I need to manually commit the merge somehow or can Launchpad do the merge with a click of a button somewhere?02:50
Kamping_Kaiserstochastic: manually02:53
* Kamping_Kaiser remembers back to the LP talk at lca02:53
rockstarstochastic, you'll need to manually commit the merge.03:38
stochasticthanks everyone03:39
adiroibanHi, is there a new way for disabling edge redirection ? I can no longer see the „Disable redirection for 2 hours” button from the front page06:16
tsimpsonadiroiban: there should be a link at the bottom of every page to disable the redirect06:17
adiroibantsimpson: yep. Thanks ! :)06:17
adiroibanwas that announced on launchpad-users mailing lists?06:18
tsimpsonit's been there for a long time ;)06:18
adiroiban:)06:19
knielsenis there a problem with launchpad branch notification emails at the moment? I don't see any email since pushing to lp:maria 45 min ago08:06
knielsen(eg. maria-developers subscribe to lp:maria, but no mail in https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-developers/ for latest push. Second to last push from yesterday is there)08:07
adiroibanhi. Any idea what cause and how to solve the error from this branch https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adiroiban/launchpad/bug-462013-try-2 ?09:23
tsimpsonyou could use sftp to remove the lock file09:27
tsimpsonsftp <you>@bazaar.launchpad.net09:27
tsimpsonrm /~adiroiban/launchpad/bug-462013-try-2/.bzr/repository/lock09:28
adiroibanhow come that it was created?09:29
adiroibanas far as I know, I didn't do anything special for this branch09:29
tsimpsonI think it's used when operating on the branch, to make sure only one process can write to it at a time09:29
tsimpsonsomething probably went wrong with the last write attempt and it wasn't unlocked09:30
tsimpson(at a guess)09:30
adiroibanok. thanks!09:30
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knielsenI still don't see any branch notification mails (for lp:maria) now after ~5 hours ... anyone knows what could be wrong?12:21
noodles775Hi knielsen, sorry there's a window each day when no one from the code team is around, but rockstar or abentley should be able to confirm if there's a problem with branch notification emails in a few hours (or a losa might be able to help now?).12:41
knielsenok, tnx12:41
mthaddonknielsen: we had some mail issues earlier, which should be solved, or close to being solved12:42
knielsenproblem is that maria-developers is subscripted to lp:maria, there has been two pushes today to that branch, but no mails are seen in https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-developers/12:42
knielsenmthaddon: ok, do you know if the branch notification mails will go out later, or if they are lost?12:42
mthaddonknielsen: not sure - I'll try and take a look12:43
knielsen(I use the mails to trigger buildbot runs on the code, so if they are lost I may need to start the builds manually)12:43
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mthaddonknielsen: I don't know definitively, but at this point I suspect they're lost, sorry12:51
knielsenmthaddon: ok, thanks for info12:51
knielsenmthaddon: do you also know when they will start working again?12:51
mthaddonknielsen: they should be working now - are you not seeing that?12:52
mthaddonknielsen: and for the last few hours (the breakage I have in mind stopped about five hours ago)12:53
knielsenmthaddon: on https://code.launchpad.net/~maria-captains/maria/5.1 there are pushes 5 and 1 hours ago for which no mails have been sent12:54
mthaddonknielsen: ok, thx - I'll try and chase someone down about this12:54
knielsenthey are missing from https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-developers/ (I am mainly interested in another subscriber, but it is probably easier to debug sending mail from launchpad to itself)12:54
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mthaddonknielsen: I'm afraid I haven't been able to find anyone (yet) who can help - should be someone shortly13:31
knielsenok, tnx for update13:31
mdeslaurI'm getting a crapload of OOPSes from launchpad this morning. ie: OOPS-1489EA53013:40
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1489EA53013:40
noodles775Hi mdeslaur, I can't view that oops, but what are you doing specifically when you get an oops (always the same thing, or a number of tasks?)13:51
mdeslaurnoodles775: I'm using a script we have to download packages out of a PPA13:52
mdeslaurevery three or four requests, I get an OOPS and it aborts13:52
noodles775mdeslaur: hrm, without seeing the oops, it's hard to know *where* the oops is being caused. I've just tried manually downloading a bunch of debs from my PPA without any issues, so I'm guessing it's a related task. Can you perhaps post your script?13:57
noodles775losa: Any idea why the above oops url doesn't find the oops? (Is it just a matter of waiting until it's synced to devpad?)13:58
mdeslaurnoodles775: it's here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-security-tools/trunk/annotate/head%3A/repo-tools/copy_sppa_to_repos13:59
mdeslaurnoodles775: but kind of specific to the security team workflow13:59
mthaddonnoodles775: we put in place a new app server yesterday - I'm not sure if the OOPSes are being synced yet (mbarnett will be following up when he comes online in an hour or so)13:59
issyl0I'm just going through launchpad answers - I found one question that was asked but it has the wrong language specified... can I change that, or is it up to the person who asked the question?  At the moment it's set to French ( Canada ) but the question is in English...13:59
issyl0Ubuntu answers on launchpad13:59
issyl0https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/9838813:59
issyl0That one ^13:59
mdeslaurnoodles775, mthaddon: that oops was on edge14:00
mdeslaursorry for not mentioning it14:00
mthaddonyep, there's a new edge app server as well14:00
mdeslaurOOPS-1489EA55414:02
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1489EA55414:02
noodles775mdeslaur: hrm, no match on that oops either. Looking at your script, it looks like it's actually a sub-script, scripts/sis-changes that hits LP, is that right? if so, where do I find that?14:07
mdeslauruhm...14:08
mdeslaurhold on14:08
noodles775BTW: do you actually see the oops output? if so, pasting that would help too (depends on your lp account).14:09
mdeslaurnoodles775: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master/annotate/head%3A/scripts/sis-changes14:09
mdeslaurnoodles775: no, I don't see the oops output14:09
mdeslaurnoodles775: I've worked around it for now by retrying in sis-changes, so at least I can work14:09
mdeslaurnoodles775: you probably have a flaky server in the pool14:10
noodles775ok, great. Yes it could be. mthaddon will be able to asses that over the next while.14:10
mdeslaurthanks noodles77514:10
noodles775np14:10
pittihello14:21
pittithe Launchpad user ~pthemessl ("burst") causes a lot of bug spam in e. g. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/252174?comments=all14:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 252174 in gvfs "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [High,Fix released]14:21
pittidue to a malicious spam cleaning thing14:21
pittiis it possible to disable his account for the time being, or at least unsubscribe him from all bugs?14:21
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PiciI keep getting OOPS-1489A1664 when I try to a bug against a project, any ideas?15:48
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1489A166415:48
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knielsenmthaddon: seems the latest push to one of our branches now triggered a branch notification mail16:04
mthaddonknielsen: yeah, we've reverted the code to the previous version - seems no-one knows how to fix just yet :(16:04
mthaddonfor this particular script, I mean16:04
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pittimthaddon: do you know whom I can ping about blacklisting that spamming user from above?16:59
mthaddonpitti: https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation suggests abentley17:00
pittiabentley: hello17:00
pittimthaddon: thanks17:00
abentleypitti: Hi.  I'm dealing with a crisis.17:00
pittiabentley: did you see my ping about ~pthemessl above?17:01
abentleypitti: Yes.17:01
pittiabentley: you mean you are right now and are busy, or you are "in charge" right now? :)17:01
abentleypitti: I am busy.17:02
pittiI'll try help@lp.net then17:03
jcastrogmb: around?17:06
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qenseabentley: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-application/trunk also suffers from Internal Server Errors, but although they occur regularly you can still view the file or directory you want after refreshing the page one or more times.17:34
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kjcoleHi.  We're trying to bring our LoCo into compliance with current standards.  Is it possible to rename a Launchpad page/directory?  Or copy it wholesale to a new directory then delete the old?17:51
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marsWhy do deactivated accounts show up in a bug's "Also notified" list?18:24
abentleyqense: Do you mean the loggerhead view of that branch, or the actual url you have me?18:35
qenseThe Loggerhead view of the branch.18:36
abentleykjcole: Because Launchpad is a web app, we don't rename pages so much as we rename the items the pages describe.  So the possibilities depend on what kind of item you want to rename.  What item do you want to rename?18:38
abentleyqense: We know that Loggerhead isn't as stable as it ought to be, and we're working to fix that.18:39
kjcoleabentley: Our LoCo's coming up for reapproval,  The gods decree it should be named ~ubuntu-statename (in our case, ~ubuntu-districtofcolumbia).  It's currently ~dcteam.18:40
qenseabentley: OK, thanks18:40
crimsun(~ubuntu-districtofcolumbia looks ridiculous given that we aren't even a state)18:41
kjcoleabentley: I put in a question/request on launchpad itself after asking here a few minutes ago, as that seemed to be what my searches were turning up as the appropriate way to "git 'er done".18:41
abentleykjcole: That's right.18:41
kjcolecrimsun: My comment on another channel was "They're gonna love ubuntu-locowithoutastate and ubuntu-districtofcolumbia as the choices. ;-)18:42
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micahgare source package names uploaded to PPAs supposed to be able to have bugs submitted against them in a distro that they're not in yet?18:53
kfogelhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kfogel/launchpad/509194-506514-bug-heat-db-fixes/files getting "Internal server error"18:53
cody-somervillemicahg, no18:54
micahgk, so the fact that they show up under the distro is a bug?18:54
cody-somervilleIf your premise is correct, yes.18:55
micahgcody-somerville: well, you said my premise is correct, right?18:56
cody-somervillemicahg, What you described would be incorrect. Whether or not that is actually the case is another matter. Can you give me a link to an example of where you think this is occurring?18:57
micahghttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.718:57
micahgcody-somerville: I got an oops, but I can pretend to enter it until it's ask to be submitted18:57
cody-somervilleInteresting.18:59
cody-somervilleMaybe this is a new feature, lol.18:59
micahgcody-somerville: it's been this way for a while18:59
cody-somervilleWell maybe I'm just totally incorrect then18:59
micahghere's the oops...OOPS-1489EB607..maybe an LP admin can tell me whether it's proper or not..19:00
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1489EB60719:00
cody-somervilleDo you get that when you try to file a bug?19:00
cody-somervilleLooks like it19:00
cody-somervilleYea, I remember hearing someone talk about this the other day.19:01
cody-somervillemicahg, NotImplementedError :-)19:01
micahgcody-somerville: ok, so does that mean they want it implemented or does that mean that you shouldn't be able to get that far/19:02
cody-somervilleLaunchpad has a zero-oops policy so this is clearly a bug of some sort.19:03
micahgcody-somerville: should I ask in the -dev channel?19:06
cody-somervilleI would file a bug.19:06
micahgk19:07
qensehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/164120/+activity Interesting issue with the bug watch added to thunar-vfs. Adding the bug watch is actually shown before creating the task it was added to in the activity log.19:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 164120 in thunar "file manager hangs when mounted nfs drive is no longer accessible" [Low,Confirmed]19:27
micahgqense: maybe the comment was processed before the task was added?19:37
qenseno, the time of the two actions is exactly the same.19:37
qenseThat's because they were both processed with the same form submit.19:37
micahgyes, I'm indeed19:37
micahgoops19:37
micahgyes, you can add a comment when adding a task19:37
micahgidk, just a  guess19:38
qenseIt's just that it could be confusing when the bug watch link is placed in the activity log before the new task the bug watch link is added to/19:38
_habnabitHow does one refer to a bug report in a commit message?19:40
_habnabitI mean, is there some string that'll be parsed as referring to one?19:40
beunohenninge, you can use --fixes=lp:BUGNUMBER19:41
beunoand it will link the bug to the branch19:41
beunoer19:41
beuno_habnabit,19:41
beunoI meant  :)19:41
henningebeuno: I knew that ... ;-P19:41
_habnabitOh, per-branch.19:42
beunohenninge, double checking!19:42
_habnabitThis was a simple fix, so I didn't make a separate branch for it.19:42
_habnabitOh no! Commit has it too.19:42
_habnabitNever mind.19:42
beuno_habnabit, no, pero commit  :)19:42
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micahgallenap: aren't we syncing bug comments with bugzilla.mozilla.org?20:18
allenapmicahg: Hi. Yes, we are. I assume you're talking about bug 267689? I was confused, so I've just commented and put it back to high importance.20:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267689 in malone "Comment syncing OOPSes with the Bugzilla plugin don't show up in the OOPS report" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26768920:47
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micahgallenap: yep :)20:47
ShiiA site identifying as https://identi.ca/ has asked us for confirmation that https://launchpad.net/~avery is your identity URL. However, that is not a valid Launchpad OpenID identity URL, such as https://launchpad.net/~USER21:00
Shiiokay, i gotta admit... i'm stumped21:00
wgrantThat seems familiar.21:02
* wgrant looks.21:02
wgrantShii: Which string did you use as your identifier?21:02
wgrantIt may well not be the one in the error message.21:02
ShiiI used https://launchpad.net/~avery originally21:03
Shiier, actually, http://avery.morrow.name21:03
Shiiwhich delegated it21:03
wgrantRight, that's what I thought. Multi-level delegation is happening.21:04
wgrantAh.21:04
wgrantIt's a bug in your delegation code, I think.21:04
wgrantThat URL is itself delegated.21:04
ShiiI should be using https://login.launchpad.net/+id/QTwJhAQ ?21:05
wgrantI suspect so.21:06
Shiiyeah, that worked.21:06
Shiithe error message was confusing :(21:06
wgrantYes, the error message is wrong.21:06
allenapabentley: Hi Aaron. Do you have some time to talk about TwistedJobRunner?21:06
wgrantIt's in some proprietary code somewhere. File a bug on canonical-identity-provider.21:06
Shiialright, i will. thanks for your help21:07
abentleyallenap: I'm kind of in the middle of things.  Can we talk about it tomorrow?21:07
allenapabentley: Sure, I'll ping you.21:07
abentleyallenap: Thanks.21:07
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bignoseLoggerhead on Launchpad is making me sad21:46
bignosehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr-pqm/bzr/bzr.dev/files21:46
bignose→ “Internal server error”21:46
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intellectronicabignose: sorry for the incovenience. our admins are looking at the problem21:56
bignoseintellectronica: thanks for the response22:04
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