[00:53] <Nafai> YAY
[00:53] <Nafai> A2DP headphones work out the box in Lucid for me
[00:53] <Nafai> Never got those working before
[00:54] <hyperstream> so did my Compaq CQ61 , not with karmic tho :)
[00:54] <RAOF> Nafai: Doesn't pulseaudio rock? :)
[00:54] <Nafai> RAOF: When it is configured right :)
[01:01] <Nafai> Time to get higher quality bluetooth headphones, methinks
[02:05] <coz_> guys I keep forgetting the name of the tools that comes up for choosing categories in gnome
[02:05] <coz_> left column has system    appearance   etc  right section has icons for each of the sections
[02:08] <jason_> I'm running Lucid Lynx and having trouble with my mouse being inverted.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[02:09] <coz_> jason_,  I dont think many are here this evening
[02:09] <coz_> jason_,  just the moue cursor is inverted?
[02:09] <jason_> coz_, Exactly.  Just the cursor the wheel works fine.
[02:10] <coz_> mmm
[02:10] <coz_> let me move over to the lucid machine
[02:10] <coz_> hold on
[02:11] <jason_> Thanks very much
[02:12] <coz_> mm I am finding nothing
[02:12] <jason_> my problem exactly
[02:12] <coz_> jason_,  have you tried chaning themes for the cursor then moveing back to the one you have
[02:12] <jason_> the mouse preferences suck and xorg.conf is being ignored as far as I can tell for my mouse
[02:13] <jason_> coz_, where can I find the ability to change cursor themes?
[02:13] <coz_> jacob,  are you running gnome?
[02:14] <jason_> I am yes
[02:14] <coz_> jacob,  system/prefereces/appearance  Customize button  Pointer tab
[02:15] <jacob> s/jacob/jason_/
[02:15] <coz_> jacob,  sorry
[02:15] <jacob> 's ok ;)
[02:16] <coz_> jason_,    system/preferences/appearacne    Customiz button   POinter tab
[02:16] <jason_> coz_, Tried it to no avail
[02:16] <coz_> mmm
[02:16] <coz_> jason_,  and you have done  sudo apt-get
[02:16] <coz_> damn fingers
[02:17] <coz_> jason_,  sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   just in case some pacakge was changed or bugs fixed?
[02:18] <jason_> no good
[02:19] <coz_> jason_,  mm
[02:20] <coz_> jason_,  did this just start occurring?
[02:20] <jason_> coz_, confusing eh? No, it happened in 9.10 as well
[02:20] <coz_> jason_, `on the same hardware?
[02:20] <jason_> coz_, yes
[02:21] <coz_> jason_, did you find a solution for it on 9.10?
[02:21] <jason_> coz_, It's gotta be a driver thing.  Targus must do something weird
[02:21] <coz_> jason_,  was this an upgrade from 9.10 or a clean install ?
[02:21] <jason_> coz_, Nope that's why i switched to Lucid thinking it'd work because they got rid of HAL
[02:21] <jason_> coz_, Clean install
[02:21] <coz_> jason_,  wow  this is puzzling then...other than it may be something in hardware that is doing this
[02:21] <coz_> jason_,  which mouse exactly?
[02:22] <jason_> Targus AMW51US
[02:22] <coz_> jason_,  I see nothing mentioned in bug reports on this
[02:23] <coz_> jason_,  do you have another mouse you could try out??  shut down first and  unplug old plug in new  of course :)
[02:24] <jason_> coz_, My touchpad isn't inverted and my older mouse isn't either.  Must be a hardware thing, but I figured I could counter it with Xorg.conf
[02:25] <coz_> jason_,  ah ok... mm  this is an interesting problem... I am going to suggest going to one of the linux channels like  ##linux and presenting this has a hardware problem and why   ..maybe someone there can troubleshoot this
[02:25] <coz_> jason_,  if you solve this let me know :)
[02:26] <jason_> coz_, Thanks for all your help! I'll check it out
[02:30] <coz_> mm he didnt go to ##linux
[02:56] <crimsun> yay, new hardware to make work with Linux
[03:02] <RAOF> Woo!
[03:13] <un214> bjsnider, RAOF: I got it fixed for now: remove fbcon.ko from disk and the problem goes away
[03:15] <RAOF> You should file a bug; at least a couple of other people seem to have troubles with the interactions between vga16fb & nvidia
[03:17] <bjsnider> i'm still unclear about whether this is an nvidia hardware issue or an issue with the nvidia blob
[03:18] <un214> it's weirder. I've got an nvidia but not a supported one so udev loads fbcon then tries to load noveau (noveau doesn't load) and isn't smart enough to unload fbcon afterwards
[03:18] <crimsun> blob is irrelevant; I can reproduce it regardless of X driver
[03:18] <crimsun> it's one of the lesser reasons that I bought a new laptop
[03:19] <un214> RAOF: there's already a bug for when you do have a card for noveau, I filed one for when you do not
[03:19] <bjsnider> nouveau
[03:20] <bjsnider> un214, so now you can boot to a nouveau-based desktop with kms and all of that stuff right?
[03:21] <un214> no I killed fbcon so it won't load (nouveau doesn't actually support my hardware so that won't help)
[03:21] <bjsnider> is there an x driver that does support your hardware?
[03:22] <un214> VESA
[03:22] <bjsnider> was this thing manufactured some time during the nixon years?
[03:23] <un214> I bought a second CPU core rather than buying any decent graphics card. You see, VESA works on anything since about 1998.
[03:25] <bjsnider> maybe we should all use vesa
[03:25] <crimsun> you should!
[03:26] <un214> I don't play 3D realtimes games ...
[03:27] <bjsnider> i thought nouveau supported everything back at least to the riva tnt crap
[03:27] <bjsnider> not that it would be terribly fast
[03:28] <RAOF> TNT2 is the first supported card, I believe.
[03:29] <RAOF> I might be wrong; it might support as far back as TNT.
[03:29] <un214> I got a junk nvidia as integerated on a motherboard. I'm not sure if it can actually do any graphics acceleration.
[03:30] <bjsnider> how old is the board?
[03:30] <un214> less than 1 year (I believe it's a case of my CPU beats the heck out of your GPU here rather than having no GPU).
[03:31] <bjsnider> the board is less than a year old?
[03:31] <RAOF> Then the GPU will be dramatically more powerful than your CPU (at graphics-specific tasks).
[03:31] <bjsnider> i think he's misinformed here
[03:32] <bjsnider> the blob certainly does support that and would be better than vesa by about a billion times
[03:32] <un214> when I said my hardware could do a better job of scaling the console than KMS I wan't meaning the graphics card -- I was meaning the monitor
[03:32] <un214> The blob didn't support that.
[03:32] <RAOF> The blob does support that.
[03:32] <RAOF> The blob also doesn't touch your consoles.
[03:32] <bjsnider> it certainly does assuming you're correct about the age
[03:32] <un214> The blob bailed and X loaded the VESA driver anyway.
[03:33] <bjsnider> actually nouveau should work well too
[03:33] <bjsnider> that would give you kms
[03:34] <un214> bleh
[03:34] <Erreon> Can anyone think of a way to fix an inverted mouse cursor?
[03:34] <RAOF> Anyone who likes working at a VT shouldn't “bleh” kms.  I rather like my accelerated, 210x64 console.
[03:35] <bjsnider> that's why i brought it up
[03:35] <un214> I would be unable to use that
[03:36] <bjsnider> you're awfully sure of waht this thing *can't* do...
[03:36] <un214> I like console for the large fix width font
[03:36] <un214> at 210x64 I would get eyestrain too fast
[03:38] <RAOF> You could always change the console font size up.
[03:40] <un214> ok the card claims to be an 8200. Maybe the driver does work now even though the one in karmic didn't.
[03:41] <bjsnider> so you also have vdpau
[03:42] <bjsnider> does it have an hdmi port?
[03:43] <un214> the port is there my monitor hasn't one
[03:44] <bjsnider> so you could turn that computer into an xbmc-based media center pretty easily
[03:44] <bjsnider> it would pretty much play any file you could possibly throw at it
[03:45] <un214> I'll bet I could do that even w/ VESA with all the CPU I've got
[03:46] <un214> I ran a test once running video playback over remote X over the lan.
[03:46] <bjsnider> does vesa support video playback?
[03:47] <RAOF> You'll get better quality video out of a driver that supports Xv, generally.
[03:47] <un214> Remote X makes it not matter
[03:47] <RAOF> Ah, sweet.  Nouveau is back in compiz-time.
[03:49] <un214> ah here's why it doesn't work. There's a device conflict in the chipset.
[03:49] <un214> That explains why the blob bailed.
[03:50] <un214> ACPI: I/O resource nForce2_smbus [0x700-0x73f] conflicts with ACPI region SM00 [0x700-0x73f]
[03:51] <bjsnider> nforce?
[03:51] <bjsnider> there's your problem
[03:52] <un214> told you it's junk
[03:57] <un214> but hey I'm not complaining about a junk integrated video. I've lived with VESA on a celeron, I can live with it on a dual core AMD
[03:59] <bjsnider> nforce is the chipset. not well supported on linux. also, amd cpus not well supported. basically the whole thing's not well supported
[03:59] <un214> AMD CPU's work just fine.
[04:00] <RAOF> bjsnider: AMD cpus not well supported?
[04:01] <RAOF> My nforce2 server with AMD64 processor hasn't had any problems at all :)
[04:02] <bjsnider> read an entry on phoronix about how a new-ish amd quad core was missing features and not stable in linux
[04:02] <bjsnider> can't go wrong with intel
[04:02] <un214> oh yes you can
[04:02]  * un214 looks at his cooked celeron
[04:04] <un214> I had a choice: do I buy a supported chipset & graphics card to watch videos, or do I buy a second CPU to watch videos and do other things
[04:26] <simba_> is there anyway i could map a "multimedia button" to undo (normally <ctrl>z)?
[05:06] <hyperstream> szqyulaxc, needs a kick :)
[05:07] <hyperstream> lol
[05:07] <hyperstream> over like 20 of em, who knows why ;/
[05:09] <hyperstream> here we go again
[05:18] <jayne> +z :-(
[05:19] <jayne> make it really hard to see throuh all the noise to what's still a problem
[05:19] <jayne> oh good, a named op.
[05:22] <DanaG> eew, that URL sounds gross.
[05:22] <DanaG> oh, it'
[05:22] <DanaG> it's that awful "last measure" thing.
[05:23] <hyperstream> yes.
[05:24] <DanaG> note to others: if you're ever curious what suspicious things actually are.... use wget and "less".
[05:24] <DanaG> View the thing as pure text.
[05:24]  * The_Thing was pinged?
[05:25] <hyperstream> DanaG, i ran it in chrome :)
[05:26] <hifi> hyperstream: not good enough
[05:26] <DanaG> I tried the thing once in firefox.... had to xkill it.
[05:26] <DanaG> or rather, just hit ctrl-alt-backspace.
[05:26] <hyperstream> hifi, ?
[05:26] <hifi> if it's the same kind of attack that has been floating around, it will POST to IRC server and flood too
[05:26] <hifi> it doesn't do any harm to you, but to others
[05:27] <hyperstream> hifi, how so ? via an infection of some sort?
[05:27] <hifi> it was the reason I installed NoScript for firefox
[05:27] <DanaG> And it's very NSFW.
[05:27] <hifi> hyperstream: no, it's just a regular HTTP POST request with a <form>
[05:27] <hifi> but it sends IRC commands in the data part
[05:27] <hyperstream> effective in linux still ? connects me to a irc network from http posts and spams ?
[05:27] <hifi> irc7 doesn't accept HTTP headers, but hyperion does (I think)
[05:28] <hifi> it's just a HTTP POST, if you know HTML and HTTP it should be quite easy to understand
[05:28] <tsimpson> hyperstream: nothing to do with your OS
[05:28] <hyperstream> yes i do, im a web developer, im just trying to understand how it works.
[05:28] <hifi> you can POST a form into any host and port
[05:29] <hifi> it POSTs to port 6667 with data that sends IRC commands
[05:29] <hyperstream> it interacts with my xchat client? or php socket driven hidden irc client kind of thing?
[05:29] <hifi> the IRC server ignores HTTP headers
[05:29] <tsimpson> hyperstream: there is a form with method="post" and action="http://irc.freenode.net:6667/"
[05:29] <hyperstream> ahhh
[05:29] <hyperstream> i get yah now :)
[05:29] <tsimpson> then JavaScript submits the form on-load
[05:29] <hifi> thats _really_ nasty
[05:29] <hifi> though, it's also a big fail on freenode's part that it accepts the data
[05:30] <hyperstream> they are changing ircd's in 3 days
[05:30] <hyperstream> :)
[05:30] <tsimpson> it doesn't accept HTTP data, just doesn't disconnect you when you send an invalid command
[05:30] <hifi> got K-lined for my curiosity last week
[05:30] <tsimpson> the new IRCd will fix this
[05:30] <hifi> tsimpson: ignoring it == accepts
[05:31] <tsimpson> it doesn't ignore it, just send an invalid command message back
[05:31] <DanaG> NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname... NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking ident NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname NOTICE AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection Timed Out)
[05:31] <DanaG> heh.
[05:32] <hifi> but thumbs up for the people who invented the "attack"
[05:32] <hifi> I think it's a masterpiece of one sort
[05:32] <tsimpson> it's a very old attack actually
[05:32] <hifi> no viruses, no trojans, just some non-evil javascript
[05:33] <hifi> which does evil things though
[05:34] <tsimpson> well, JavaScript allows you to run arbitrary code on a remote system
[05:34] <tsimpson> it's bound to be exploited
[05:39] <hifi> not to forget plugins like flash or java which can do pretty much anything if they run by default
[06:18]  * The_Thing laughs his ass off at the trolls
[07:25] <alkisg> I'm getting this from pidgin: ERROR: Caught a segmentation fault while loading plugin file:
[07:25] <alkisg> /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlv2.so
[07:26] <alkisg> Any way around it?
[07:26] <alkisg> (caused by today's updates...)
[07:27] <alkisg> Hmm ok removing gstreamer-plugins-bad temporarily...
[08:37] <ripps> Is there some way to get notification/indicators of new mail without having to leave evolution open?
[08:40] <vish> ripps: mail notifier
[08:41] <vish> but if you select the mails , it will take you to the browser[open mail in the browser]
[08:41] <ripps> vish: ew, I've used it in the past and it just constantly goofs with my gmail labels
[08:42] <vish> ripps: alternatively , there was an evolution plugin which would minimize evo to the tray... or try AllTray ;)
[08:42] <ripps> I like evolution, and I prefer to use it. And I works perfectly with my gmail labels. Why doesn't the indicator hide it like the empathy indicator does. I don't want a tray icon, why should I, when there's an indicator
[08:43] <vish> ripps: there is a bug for that feature.. no one has implemented it yet..  wanna give it a shot? ;)
[08:44] <ripps> I don't know how to program. Is there an alltray like program that hides a program instead of minimizing it to tray?
[08:54] <vish> AFAIK , nope
[08:59] <ripps> hmm... it seems someone wrote a hack for evolution-indicator that hides evolution. I'll build it and see how it works
[09:13] <BUGabundo_remote> morning
[09:17] <ripps> woo, building evolution-indicator in pbuilder; man this little plugin has alot of build-depends
[09:37] <screen-x> How do you disable something from starting up using upstart? Is there a command, or do you edit the config in /etc/init ?
[09:56] <vega_> foo
[09:56] <vega_> screen-x: you cannot do that
[09:56] <vega_> (which is ridiculous)
[09:57] <screen-x> vega_: as in there is no way of disabling a service/thing?
[09:57] <vega_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/94065
[09:57] <vega_> it's been on the list for almost 3 years now
[09:58] <screen-x> w00t progress :)
[09:59] <vega_> "This feature is essential before we start moving certain services over to upstart." and yet karmic has been released for some time alreayd..
[12:52] <vish> !schedule | gnomefreak ;)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> vish: i know where it is and looked at it already
[12:53] <gnomefreak> and wrong channel :)
[12:53] <vish> gnomefreak: so feb 18th is wrong ? oops :s
[12:53] <gnomefreak> who said feb 18th?
[12:54] <vish> gnomefreak: oh , nvm me then.. i thought you were asking for Lucid FF date :)
[12:55] <gnomefreak> vish: i was i forgot what it said but im looking at it right now and ~18th if correct
[12:55] <gnomefreak> this is never going to make it in Lucid :(
[13:12] <coz_> oo just noticed ubuntu-desktop ,gstreamer plugins..brasero..among many others are going to be removed with todays upsates....maybe I should wait :) ?
[13:17] <arand> coz_: don't do dist-upgrades/full-upgrades :P
[13:18] <arand> coz_: as a general rule at least..
[13:25] <coz_> arand,  oh  thats exactly what I do generally but no biggie...its not important at this point for me to any upgrades.... and if it breaks   hey    I can alsways reinstall on the lucid machine :)
[13:29] <arand> coz_: aptitude safe-upgrade should suffice in almost all cases, In general, if packages are kept back, it is for a reason ;)
[13:29] <coz_> arand,  yeah... I understand... dist-upgrade can be risky at this point.... thanks :)
[13:31] <_stink_> how is safe-upgrade different from upgrade? safe-upgrade's not in the manpage on karmic, at least
[13:33] <arand> _stink_: i was referring to apt-get upgrade // aptitude safe-upgrade which are somewhat comparable..
[13:34] <_stink_> arand: ah, i see.  thanks!
[13:39] <dp_> so whats the word on fglrx cards in Lucid?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Heyas
[14:08] <dupondje> where can I see the queue for packages to get imported into ubuntu Lucid ?
[14:08] <dupondje> http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome-do => really needs to be synced :D
[14:13] <kklimonda> dupondje, in lucid we sync with squeeze and not sid
[14:14] <kklimonda> autosync*
[14:14] <dupondje> but we can request a sync from sid ?
[14:14] <dupondje> cause it fixes some serious bugs in gnome-do ...
[14:14] <kklimonda> yes
[14:14] <kklimonda> open a bug
[14:14] <dupondje> i'll do
[14:17] <dupondje> ofc I don't have requestsync on this windows thing :D
[14:58] <dupondje> kklimonda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-do/+bug/513802 :) done
[15:18] <prefrontal> after upgrading to lucid i don't get dns name resolution unless i do ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0. how can I fix this?
[15:35] <temporarytao> just updated my alpha install and empathy has been removed. anybody know why and when i get it back?
[15:37] <om26er> I cannot mount btrfs at startup. Before I reinstalled it was working fine but now it won't mount and the system don't even boot unless I remove the entry from fstab
[15:39] <arand> temporarytao: did you do a dist-upgrade/full-upgrade?
[15:45] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 4 starting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom (first: Adopt-An-Upstream)
[15:49] <yofel> om26er: that sounds familiar, I disabled my btrfs test fs a while ago and didn't look into it more, thanks  for reminding me ;)
[15:50] <om26er> yofel, it was working fine until I reinstalled lucid
[15:50] <yofel> om26er: maybe the UUID changed?
[15:50] <om26er> yofel, I never gave UUID
[15:51] <yofel> ok, that's odd then...
[15:51] <yofel> does booting with quiet splash disabled give you a mount error?
[15:51] <yofel> mountall seems to take those fatal since we use upstart :/
[15:55] <om26er> yofel, yes yofel it was a mount all error
[16:21] <johanbr> Hi. Does anyone else get "NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module" in lucid?
[16:22] <johanbr> This prevents compositing from working.
[16:37] <Volkodav> !upgrade
[16:40] <Volkodav> hmm
[16:41] <Volkodav> how do I upgrade from 9.10 ?
[16:41] <Volkodav> update-manager -d did not work
[16:41] <mvo> what is the error?
[16:41] <Volkodav> no error
[16:42] <Volkodav> system is up to date it says'
[16:42] <mvo> Volkodav: so no upgrade button, what does ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release-developerment contain?
[16:42] <mvo> Volkodav: is it the same if you run it again? (or two times?)
[16:43] <Volkodav> yes
[16:43] <Volkodav> tried 2 times
[16:43] <BluesKaj> johanbr, make sure you use the current driver fore your nvidia card , folloow this tutorial to install it. http://www.pastebin.ca/1769509
[16:44] <johanbr> BluesKaj, it was after I did precisely that that I ended up with the GLX error
[16:44] <johanbr> there might be a stray library still around somewhere, I think
[16:44] <johanbr> but thanks for the suggestion :)
[16:45] <mvo> Volkodav: could you test the following diff: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/karmic/revision/1587?start_revid=1587
[16:45] <mvo> Volkodav: actual diff is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/karmic/diff/1587
[16:45] <BluesKaj> johanbr, did you do, sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[16:46] <johanbr> no, my xorg.conf is empty
[16:46] <johanbr> but I just did
[16:47] <BluesKaj> then you should generate one
[16:47] <johanbr> we'll see how this works, back in a minute
[16:49] <Volkodav> mvo - what is it that I do with diff again ?
[16:50] <johanbr> BluesKaj, no change
[16:50] <mvo> Volkodav: hm, I think the first information if the output of ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release-development, the last few lines are interessting
[16:51] <johanbr> one more try...
[16:52] <bjsnider> gnome-shell now has the ability in overview mode to switch from viewing all desktops to viewing one with a scrollbar and button to get to the others
[16:52] <Volkodav> mvo - there is no meta-release-development - only meta-release and meta-release-lts
[16:58] <mvo> Volkodav: hm, that is odd, it looks like it was unable to download it then
[16:59] <Volkodav> I will change the repos and then try it again
[16:59] <mvo> Volkodav: could you add the following lines on top of "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/MetaReleaseGObject.py" for me:
[16:59] <mvo> import gtk
[16:59] <mvo> gtk.gdk.threads_init()
[16:59] <mvo> and see if that helps?
[16:59] <Volkodav> too late
[16:59] <Volkodav> I already sudo sed -i 's/karmic/lucid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[17:00] <Volkodav> so packages are upgrading and then I will do do-release-upgrade -d
[17:08] <DanaG> hmm, kde 4.4 plasma keeps crashing any time I try to add widgets.
[17:09] <DanaG> Specifically, even if I don't actually add any... it crashes.
[17:11] <DanaG> Steps to reproduce for me: right-click panel, "add widgets...", and then click in a different window so the panel loses focus.
[17:16] <charlie-tca> Any one lose brasero, gstreamer, and totem today with the updates?
[17:16] <charlie-tca> anyone else ...
[17:22] <johanbr> BluesKaj, I had to symlink /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so to /usr/lib/nvidia-current/xorg/libglx.so
[17:22] <johanbr> now it works :)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> johanbr, good to hear
[17:32] <BluesKaj> johanbr, odd that you needed to make a symlink tho , it should have installed the .so files to the right dir
[17:33] <johanbr> there was already a /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (not a symlink), not sure where it came from
[17:33] <johanbr> so I deleted that, and then pointed it to the nvidia file
[17:33] <bjsnider> DanaG, did you see that phoronix story about the adobe hacker who's whining about linux video problems?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> johanbr, I forgot to mention that you needed to remove the previous nvidia driver before installing the new one
[17:35] <DanaG> hmm, a new one, or an old one?
[17:36] <DanaG> Oh yeah, there's now Catalyst 10.1... but still doesn't claim Xorg 7.5 support.
[17:36] <johanbr> BluesKaj,  I did remove it, but it's possible that file came from an earlier version and wasn't deleted for some reason
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:36] <bjsnider> DanaG, there were two posts, most recently this morning
[17:37] <bjsnider> this guy is just writing blog after blog whining instead of coding
[17:37] <johanbr> the video coding in the flash plugin makes no sense whatsoever
[17:40] <johanbr> for instance, they grep for "SGI" in the opengl renderer string, and if found, disable opengl support
[17:41] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep direct ?
[17:41] <johanbr> yep
[17:41] <BluesKaj> 3D?
[17:41] <DanaG> nope, now swrast is direct too.
[17:42] <johanbr> BluesKaj, what do you mean by "3D" ?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep 3D
[17:42] <johanbr> they look at "glxinfo |grep renderer", basically, I think
[17:43] <johanbr> they also disable opengl if your window manager is compiz
[17:43] <BluesKaj> yup mine outputs :
[17:43] <BluesKaj> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/PCI/SSE2
[17:44] <johanbr> right
[17:44] <BluesKaj> johanbr, you have flashplugin-nonfree
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:45] <johanbr> but any video driver that uses Mesa rendering will have "SGI" in the string, even if it's accelerated
[17:45] <johanbr> BluesKaj, that's the one I'm talking about, yes
[17:47] <johanbr> they don't seem to know what they're doing
[17:48] <BluesKaj> i got rid of compiz , kde desktop effects work as well without the compiz cpu-hog probs
[17:50] <johanbr> right, there's a bunch of compositing window managers
[17:50] <johanbr> which is one of the reasons their check for compiz makes no sense
[18:31] <BluesKaj> time for my daily walk..bbl
[19:04] <mamagoody> hello, anyone can help me recording sound on kubuntu?
[19:05] <mamagoody> audacity used to work but it doesn't work anymore
[19:08] <Pici> mamagoody: On Lucid?
[19:10] <Pici> If not, then you should ask in #kubuntu
[19:10] <switchgirl> hi
[19:10] <switchgirl> i need sound on ubuntu lucid lynx
[19:10] <mamagoody> Pici: yes, on lucid lyix
[19:10] <mamagoody> lynx
[19:13] <mamagoody> sorry, reboot
[20:48] <oskude> i assume when i get 404 when trying to install a package with apt-get its cause the mirror doesn't have the package yet ?
[20:52] <yofel> oskude: either the mirror didn't sync right, or the package was replaced by a newer one, did you run apt-get update?
[20:52] <oskude> yoasif, yup, did apt-get update... trying the main repo atm, sec
[20:53] <oskude> yoasif, yup, was the mirror not sync yet or something
[20:53] <yofel> oskude: s/yoasif/yofel/ ;)
[20:53] <oskude> and i fail in <tab> again, sorry yofel and yoasif :)
[20:55] <oskude> btw. colored sources.list in nano was nice, thanks! :)
[20:55] <yofel> hey cool, didn't notice that yet :D
[20:56] <Pici> ooh.  Does the new .nanorc have source code hilighting on my default now?
[20:58] <oskude> Pici, seems so, and lots of other languages, even POV-Ray... havent seen that a while :)
[20:58] <Pici> oskude: Neat.  I've been using a custom .nanorc just to have those enabled, I'll check out the one in /etc/nanorc when I get back to my lucid computer.
[21:58] <simba_> getting mbr error after just doing safe-upgrade
[23:29] <DrHalan> hey, did someone break dependencies with gstreamer?
[23:35] <yofel> DrHalan: it was broken in the morning, but works fine here now (mirror out-of date?)
[23:36] <DrHalan> yofel: hm i thought it may be because i have some package sources that supply karmic packages
[23:36] <DrHalan> but also without them i can't install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[23:37] <yofel> I have karmic still enabled too, but I had package conflicts in the morning, but I updated fine a few minutes ago
[23:38] <DrHalan> strange
[23:38] <DrHalan> do you have pidign banshee or totem on your system?
[23:39] <DrHalan> or codeblocks in taht matter?
[23:39] <yofel> totem yes, the others not (I use kde with parts of gnome installed as fallback)
[23:39] <DrHalan> strange