| rd | hello | 00:41 |
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| rd | does any one know where there is some instructions on how to install ubuntu arm on n800? | 00:41 |
| === bjf is now known as bjf-afk | ||
| neure | hi | 08:31 |
| neure | is asm("bkpt"); a good way to cause breakpoint in code? | 08:31 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | o/ | 10:59 |
| asac | cant believe that my auto joining works again ;) | 10:59 |
| asac | even on +R channels | 10:59 |
| asac | seems i sent "ident" to nickserv which it doesnt like anymore | 10:59 |
| ogra | well, dont reconnect in a way that you get an underscore on your nick | 11:05 |
| ogra | thats overly annoying | 11:05 |
| asac | attached filtered debdiff for gvfs update (re bug 512959) | 12:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 512959 in gvfs "nautilus assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: nautilus terminated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512959 | 12:07 |
| dmart | asac: Hi there; unfortunately I had an overrunning meeting, but I'm available now. | 12:19 |
| asac | dmart: hi | 12:19 |
| asac | cool | 12:19 |
| asac | so i started to file bugs ;) | 12:19 |
| asac | for main | 12:19 |
| asac | added the numbers to the status col | 12:19 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList | 12:19 |
| asac | i am done to gmp | 12:20 |
| dmart | Looks good | 12:20 |
| * asac wonders if there is a shorthand syntax for lp bugs in the wiki | 12:20 | |
| asac | i didnt subscribe you to those bugs as you are member of ubuntu-armel i figured | 12:20 |
| ogra | asac, i think there is, but i cant remember the syntax, i know persia usually does :) | 12:22 |
| asac | universe are so many packages :( | 12:23 |
| dmart | dunno... I shoved it though sed... refresh the page | 12:23 |
| ogra | yeah | 12:23 |
| asac | anyway. getting the logs now | 12:23 |
| dmart | I was seeing a lot of false-positives, so it may be relatively quick | 12:23 |
| asac | great | 12:23 |
| asac | ok got the logs ... (thx wiki) ... now geting a new coffee and then we can lift off ;) | 12:25 |
| asac | ok after not visiting that page lets get started ;) | 12:31 |
| asac | cacao | 12:32 |
| asac | needs a check (by doko) | 12:32 |
| dmart | Yes. I'm not sure why this appears separately from cacao-source; I guess it's basically the same issues | 12:33 |
| asac | uses atomics and mov in various places | 12:33 |
| asac | cdecl | 12:33 |
| asac | false+ | 12:33 |
| asac | cell-binutils | 12:34 |
| asac | wonders what that is | 12:36 |
| asac | guess needs to be checked | 12:36 |
| asac | various hits ... not obvious what is used where and how | 12:36 |
| asac | hmm. where is that? | 12:36 |
| asac | i cant even find the source | 12:36 |
| asac | !info cell-binutils | 12:36 |
| ogra | thats for PS3 | 12:37 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package cell-binutils does not exist in karmic | 12:37 |
| ogra | nothing for arm anyway | 12:37 |
| asac | !source cell-binutils | 12:37 |
| ubot4 | asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:37 |
| asac | ogra: there are files name "arm" in the source at least | 12:37 |
| asac | but ok | 12:37 |
| asac | if you say its ps3 then its ok | 12:37 |
| ogra | well, its for the cell CPU, but i bet derived from nowmal binutils | 12:37 |
| asac | i guess same is true for other cell-* | 12:38 |
| asac | like cell-gcc cell-gdb etc. | 12:38 |
| ogra | likely | 12:38 |
| asac | ogra: ? | 12:38 |
| asac | "info cell-gcc | 12:38 |
| asac | !info cell-gcc | 12:38 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package cell-gcc does not exist in karmic | 12:38 |
| ogra | heh | 12:38 |
| asac | !source cell-gcc | 12:38 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'source cell-gcc' not found | 12:38 |
| asac | damn bot ;) | 12:38 |
| ogra | i think the bot only knows x86 anyway | 12:38 |
| asac | !apt cell-gcc | 12:38 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'apt cell-gcc' not found | 12:38 |
| ogra | !info uboot-imx | 12:38 |
| ubot4 | ogra: Package uboot-imx does not exist in karmic | 12:38 |
| ogra | see | 12:38 |
| asac | !madison cell-gcc | 12:38 |
| ubot4 | asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:38 |
| ogra | oh, karmic | 12:38 |
| ogra | !info redboot-imx | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | ogra: Package redboot-imx does not exist in karmic | 12:39 |
| asac | !info uboot-imx lucid | 12:39 |
| ogra | right, there you go | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package uboot-imx does not exist in lucid | 12:39 |
| asac | isnt there a version= | 12:39 |
| asac | in the binary? | 12:39 |
| asac | i think it just knows binaries | 12:39 |
| ogra | not for the source package | 12:39 |
| ogra | ah | 12:39 |
| asac | !info uboot-imx51-to3 | 12:39 |
| asac | !info uboot-imx51-to3 lucid | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in karmic | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in lucid | 12:39 |
| asac | ok | 12:39 |
| asac | ubot4: please tell your owner to improve you. thx | 12:39 |
| ubot4 | asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:39 |
| ogra | heh | 12:40 |
| asac | ok marked those as PS3 | 12:40 |
| asac | cpqarrayd | 12:40 |
| asac | !info cpqarrayd | 12:40 |
| ubot4 | asac: cpqarrayd (source: cpqarrayd): monitoring tool for HP (Compaq) SmartArray controllers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-1 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB | 12:40 |
| asac | aha | 12:40 |
| asac | ;) | 12:40 |
| asac | hmm. that one has parts of the kernel tree in the debian/ directory :( | 12:41 |
| ogra | cool ! | 12:41 |
| asac | bah | 12:41 |
| ogra | we should that more often ! | 12:41 |
| asac | is that normal? | 12:42 |
| ogra | definately not | 12:42 |
| dmart | ... sorry, distracted ... | 12:42 |
| ogra | for that specific package probably ... | 12:42 |
| asac | no problem ;) ... we did some bot training ;) | 12:42 |
| ogra | it might need headers that the kernel doesnt ship by default or some such | 12:42 |
| asac | thats why all the .S files are in there? | 12:43 |
| dmart | I'm pretty sure cell-{gcc,binutils,etc.} will be Cell arch specific tools packages; punt those to doko? | 12:43 |
| ogra | if he even cares | 12:43 |
| asac | grep cpqarrayd * | pastebinit | 12:43 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f1f093e3a | 12:43 |
| ogra | not sure the sell port is still alive | 12:43 |
| asac | dmart: i marked those as PS3 only for now | 12:43 |
| ogra | *cell | 12:43 |
| dmart | OK | 12:43 |
| asac | thats what ogra said | 12:43 |
| asac | aka nothing to do | 12:43 |
| ogra | wow, thats ugly | 12:44 |
| asac | ok saying that cpqarrayd needs to be checked ... has kernel tree in debian/ | 12:44 |
| asac | !info ctypes | 12:44 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package ctypes does not exist in karmic | 12:44 |
| asac | grep ctypes * | pastebinit | 12:44 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f15603dcf | 12:44 |
| asac | needs investigation i would say ... | 12:45 |
| asac | uses call_reg macro so might be good for mov | 12:45 |
| asac | dmart: the ldr parts are a false-+ for that? | 12:46 |
| asac | see paste above | 12:47 |
| asac | ok next ... | 12:47 |
| asac | grep cxxtools * | pastebinit | 12:47 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f281dc3f0 | 12:47 |
| asac | seems to use atomics | 12:48 |
| dmart | ctypes - that looks like x87 assembler, so probaby not relevant. The mov pc, lr stuff seems to be in an embedded libffi, so can we link those two up? | 12:48 |
| asac | dmart: so i will comment that hits are probably libffi dupes | 12:49 |
| dmart | ok. | 12:49 |
| asac | ok dd is false-+ | 12:49 |
| asac | ddd | 12:49 |
| dmart | cxxtools - I agree | 12:49 |
| dmart | ddd - agreed | 12:50 |
| asac | deal.ii seems to be atomics again | 12:50 |
| dmart | deal.ii - agreed | 12:50 |
| asac | desmume | 12:50 |
| asac | hmm. disassembler | 12:50 |
| asac | migt be right. | 12:50 |
| dmart | weird, guess we don't care about that | 12:51 |
| asac | yes | 12:51 |
| asac | dietlibc | 12:51 |
| dmart | desmume - Nintendo DS emulator, apparently | 12:51 |
| dmart | dietlibc - generally looks like it needs some porting (atomics, low-level asm) | 12:52 |
| asac | ack | 12:52 |
| asac | disktype | 12:53 |
| asac | amiga ;) | 12:53 |
| asac | false+ | 12:53 |
| dmart | yep | 12:53 |
| asac | dosbox | 12:53 |
| dmart | surely false-+... checking... | 12:53 |
| asac | disasm again | 12:53 |
| asac | e3 | 12:53 |
| asac | great package name ;) | 12:54 |
| asac | grep e3- * | pastebinit | 12:54 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/feafed1 | 12:54 |
| dmart | what's this package? | 12:54 |
| asac | checkig | 12:54 |
| suihkulokki | dmart: some arm eabi support was added to dietlibc but I still didnt manage to get it to compile | 12:54 |
| asac | !info r3 | 12:54 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package r3 does not exist in karmic | 12:54 |
| asac | !info e3 | 12:54 |
| ubot4 | asac: e3 (source: e3): A very small editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.71-1 (karmic), package size 37 kB, installed size 120 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64) | 12:54 |
| asac | hmm ... seems not relevant | 12:55 |
| asac | (not supported arch) | 12:55 |
| asac | ecl | 12:55 |
| dmart | Weird that there is ARM code in there... it looks like someone tried to support it... | 12:55 |
| asac | dupe of libatomic-ops i guess | 12:56 |
| asac | yeah | 12:56 |
| asac | but given what the bot said, the debian maintainer has explicitly marked it for just that arch? | 12:56 |
| asac | those archs | 12:56 |
| asac | available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64) | 12:56 |
| asac | okadded to comment that arm code exists | 12:57 |
| asac | and someone might want to finish ;) | 12:57 |
| dmart | suihkulokki: ftbfs just for lucid, or generally? | 12:57 |
| dmart | asac: ok | 12:57 |
| asac | so ok ... i said that ecl depends on libatomic-ops (which we have in main i think) | 12:57 |
| asac | hmm ... and gmp ;) | 12:58 |
| dmart | Yes, those both look like dupes, can we link them? | 12:58 |
| asac | yes | 12:59 |
| dmart | I expect we can dismiss the emacs packages (emacs23 in main was false-+) | 12:59 |
| asac | well. i added that as comment | 12:59 |
| asac | so i can add a task to the other bugs | 12:59 |
| asac | yes | 12:59 |
| suihkulokki | dmart: debian :) | 12:59 |
| asac | (emacs) | 12:59 |
| dmart | suihkulokki: so we can judge dietlibc as not Ubuntu-ready then? (Ubuntu is EABI) | 13:00 |
| asac | !info etherboot | 13:00 |
| ubot4 | asac: etherboot (source: etherboot): Bootstrapping for various network adapters. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.4.3+dfsg-0.2ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 20515 kB, installed size 30644 kB | 13:00 |
| asac | dfsg/src/arch/armnommu/core/start.S: | 13:00 |
| NCommander | dmart, yeah, dietlibc is dead for ARM. There are patches to make it EABI complient, but upstream was stalled last I checked. | 13:00 |
| dmart | NCommander, suihkulokki: I guess we don't have specific concerns for Thumb-2 right now then | 13:01 |
| dmart | etherboot - bootloader, so we can probably ignore this one | 13:01 |
| asac | ok ... i add acomment | 13:01 |
| suihkulokki | dmart: unless you want to work on it.. | 13:01 |
| asac | (to dietlibc) | 13:01 |
| asac | falconpl | 13:02 |
| asac | !info falconpl | 13:02 |
| ubot4 | asac: falconpl (source: falconpl): The Falcon P. L. - command line tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 93 kB, installed size 252 kB | 13:02 |
| dmart | suihkulokki: I'll see whether anyone else on my side knows about it :) | 13:02 |
| asac | false-+ | 13:02 |
| asac | faumachine | 13:02 |
| asac | !info faumachine | 13:02 |
| ubot4 | asac: faumachine (source: faumachine): Virtual machine running in user mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090512-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4368 kB | 13:02 |
| asac | false positive too | 13:02 |
| asac | !info ffcall | 13:03 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package ffcall does not exist in karmic | 13:03 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/fe0b29f1 | 13:03 |
| dmart | faumachine - the match appears to be part of a comment, so OK | 13:03 |
| asac | needs to be checked for mov's i guess | 13:03 |
| dmart | Yes; doesn't look T2-compatible right now | 13:04 |
| asac | ffmpeg-php -> false-+ | 13:04 |
| asac | fpc | 13:04 |
| asac | mov and swp | 13:04 |
| dmart | !info fpc | 13:04 |
| ubot4 | dmart: fpc (source: fpc): Free Pascal Compiler - Meta Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3 (karmic), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for all i386 powerpc sparc amd64 arm) | 13:04 |
| dmart | Hmmm, I guess that needs looking at | 13:05 |
| asac | yes. noted as mov and swp porting ) | 13:05 |
| dmart | !info freesci | 13:05 |
| ubot4 | dmart: freesci (source: freesci): a portable interpreter for SCI games like Space Quest 3. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-3 (karmic), package size 595 kB, installed size 1312 kB | 13:05 |
| asac | onh | 13:05 |
| NCommander | asac, fpc is going to be painful to port | 13:06 |
| * NCommander did some looking at it | 13:06 | |
| asac | freesci needs to be looked at | 13:06 |
| asac | not sure if that applies | 13:06 |
| suihkulokki | NCommander: looked into fpc 2.4 too ? | 13:06 |
| dmart | freesci - agreed | 13:06 |
| asac | NCommander: right. its universe, so it comes last :) | 13:06 |
| asac | fte -> false- | 13:06 |
| asac | + | 13:06 |
| asac | gamera | 13:07 |
| NCommander | suihkulokki, nope | 13:07 |
| asac | false-+, not arm asm | 13:07 |
| dmart | gamera - false-+ (x86 asm) | 13:07 |
| dmart | gauche-c-wrapper - embedded libffi? (same implications as ctypes) | 13:08 |
| asac | yes | 13:08 |
| asac | has macro ... might be safe | 13:08 |
| dmart | gcc-4.x -> doko (do we know which ones are actually in use to build stuff in universe?) | 13:08 |
| asac | ok gcc stuff is already dealt elsewhere ... yes | 13:09 |
| asac | gcj is next that doesnt have a comment | 13:09 |
| asac | guess its doko too | 13:09 |
| dmart | gauche-c-wrapper - yes, looks like a simple review | 13:09 |
| dmart | gcj is gcc | 13:09 |
| asac | gcl | 13:09 |
| dmart | so doko again | 13:09 |
| asac | yes | 13:09 |
| asac | marked gcj for doko | 13:09 |
| asac | !gcl | 13:09 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'gcl' not found | 13:09 |
| asac | !info gcl | 13:09 |
| ubot4 | asac: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB | 13:09 |
| NCommander | gcl is evil in several ways | 13:10 |
| NCommander | It has an embedded copy of binutils and gcc :-/ | 13:10 |
| asac | hmm. plenty of stuff i guess | 13:10 |
| asac | ok so | 13:10 |
| asac | grep gcl- * | grep -v binutils | 13:10 |
| asac | search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/invert_limb.asm:addr2, pc, #invtab-.-8 | 13:10 |
| dmart | gcl - just embedded binutils, or is there anything else? | 13:10 |
| asac | search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/udiv.asm:movpc, lr | 13:10 |
| asac | the rest should be covered by binutils | 13:11 |
| dmart | embedded gmp3 might be the same as gmp? | 13:11 |
| dmart | Probably, looking at our previous review | 13:11 |
| asac | hmm | 13:11 |
| NCommander | asac, I recommend you check the size of gcl's diff.gz if you want to see why I think gcl is crack | 13:11 |
| dmart | !info gcl | 13:12 |
| ubot4 | dmart: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB | 13:12 |
| asac | !info gclcvs | 13:12 |
| ubot4 | asac: gclcvs (source: gclcvs): GNU Common Lisp compiler, CVS snapshot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-64 (karmic), package size 48061 kB, installed size 175136 kB | 13:12 |
| dmart | ugh | 13:12 |
| dmart | ;) | 13:12 |
| asac | lol | 13:12 |
| dmart | anyway, it looks to me like the hits are in imported packages | 13:12 |
| asac | NCommander: i didnt say that gcl isnt crack ;) ... i dont know the code | 13:12 |
| asac | binutils again etc. | 13:13 |
| asac | damn | 13:13 |
| asac | same as gcl | 13:13 |
| asac | !info gdal | 13:13 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package gdal does not exist in karmic | 13:13 |
| dmart | ok, needs a look in principle, but the problems are probably answered by addressing gmp and binutils (binutils may already be done anyway, depending on the age of the snapshot) | 13:13 |
| asac | x86 assembbler | 13:13 |
| dmart | For tools packages in general, we should try to find out if they're used to build anything | 13:14 |
| asac | hmm. good point | 13:14 |
| dmart | Can we tag such packages with a magic word, or collect them somewhere? Sounds like someone could do a 1-pass review for build-deps later | 13:16 |
| asac | not sure ... added that as a comment | 13:17 |
| asac | we can decide when filing that bug | 13:17 |
| asac | etc. | 13:17 |
| dmart | gdal - "Geospatial Data Abstraction Library" | 13:17 |
| asac | thats x86 asm | 13:17 |
| asac | !gdb-avr | 13:17 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'gdb-avr' not found | 13:17 |
| asac | hmm. some disasm | 13:18 |
| dmart | gdal - agreed | 13:18 |
| asac | guess is related to gdb | 13:18 |
| asac | will put that on doko plate | 13:18 |
| dmart | I guess it's gdb for the avr arch | 13:18 |
| dmart | ? | 13:18 |
| asac | hmm | 13:18 |
| dmart | gdm-m68blah similarly | 13:18 |
| asac | there is arm code inside the -avr | 13:19 |
| asac | not sure its because its a full copy of something | 13:19 |
| asac | ok lets treat that as arch dependent | 13:19 |
| dmart | That's probably just be a binutils dump | 13:19 |
| asac | geshi | 13:19 |
| asac | !info geshi | 13:19 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package geshi does not exist in karmic | 13:19 |
| asac | false-+ | 13:19 |
| asac | php code | 13:19 |
| dmart | "generic syntax highlighter" | 13:20 |
| dmart | agreed | 13:20 |
| asac | !info ghdl | 13:20 |
| ubot4 | asac: ghdl (source: ghdl): VHDL compiler/simulator using GCC technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.27+svn110+gcc4.3.3+dfsg-1 (karmic), package size 11429 kB, installed size 32804 kB | 13:20 |
| asac | hmm. gcc copy | 13:20 |
| asac | needs to be checked i guess | 13:20 |
| asac | esp. because its 4.3.3 | 13:20 |
| dmart | ->doko? | 13:20 |
| asac | lets say its doko ... yes. marked | 13:21 |
| asac | !gimp-gap | 13:21 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'gimp-gap' not found | 13:21 |
| asac | !info gimp-gap | 13:21 |
| ubot4 | asac: gimp-gap (source: gimp-gap): The GIMP Animation Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2526 kB, installed size 7896 kB | 13:21 |
| asac | false-+ | 13:21 |
| dmart | yes | 13:21 |
| asac | !info gnat-4.3 | 13:21 |
| ubot4 | asac: gnat-4.3 (source: gnat-4.3): The GNU Ada compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 12284 kB, installed size 55668 kB | 13:21 |
| dmart | gnat-3.4 -> doko | 13:21 |
| asac | i think we already have gnat | 13:21 |
| asac | yes | 13:21 |
| dmart | I think it comes out of the GCC tree anyway | 13:22 |
| asac | !info gnu-smalltalk | 13:22 |
| ubot4 | asac: gnu-smalltalk (source: gnu-smalltalk): GNU Smalltalk interpreter and image. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-2 (karmic), package size 641 kB, installed size 2208 kB | 13:22 |
| asac | uses call_reg macro | 13:22 |
| dmart | libffi dupe again | 13:22 |
| asac | probably ok but needs verified | 13:22 |
| asac | yeah | 13:22 |
| asac | !info gnuplot | 13:22 |
| ubot4 | asac: gnuplot (source: gnuplot): A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.5-2 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB | 13:22 |
| asac | os2 ;) | 13:23 |
| asac | false-+ | 13:23 |
| asac | !info google-perftools | 13:23 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package google-perftools does not exist in karmic | 13:23 |
| asac | hmm linux syscall | 13:23 |
| dmart | might need a look | 13:24 |
| dmart | my guess is that it may not be critical | 13:24 |
| asac | yes | 13:24 |
| asac | !info gromacs | 13:25 |
| ubot4 | asac: gromacs (source: gromacs): Molecular dynamics simulator, with building and analysis tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.5-4 (karmic), package size 3684 kB, installed size 13188 kB | 13:25 |
| dmart | false-+ | 13:25 |
| asac | false | 13:25 |
| asac | y | 13:25 |
| asac | ok guess gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is dealt by ffmpeg | 13:25 |
| dmart | probably... is that a separate source package? | 13:25 |
| asac | hmm. maybe not | 13:25 |
| asac | seems so | 13:26 |
| ogra | suihkulokki, i get a lot of "unsupported syscall 335" in recent qemu-arm-static, that appears to be utrace, any idea about an existing fix ? | 13:26 |
| dmart | embedded ffmpeg - someone should check it. It may be one of those cases where the upstream project embeds a lib but we use the installed one (ie from the ffmpeg source package) | 13:26 |
| dmart | gxemul - emulator - false-+ | 13:27 |
| asac | yes | 13:27 |
| dmart | helix-player - a mov pc, lr; and some swp which might need porting | 13:28 |
| asac | helix-player -> uses atomics | 13:28 |
| asac | yes | 13:28 |
| asac | hol88 | 13:28 |
| asac | !info hol88 | 13:28 |
| ubot4 | asac: hol88 (source: hol88): Higher Order Logic, system image. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02.19940316-8 (karmic), package size 9530 kB, installed size 44532 kB | 13:28 |
| dmart | scary | 13:28 |
| asac | false | 13:28 |
| asac | + | 13:28 |
| dmart | yes | 13:28 |
| asac | !info ht | 13:28 |
| ubot4 | asac: ht (source: ht): Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.17-1 (karmic), package size 619 kB, installed size 1668 kB | 13:28 |
| asac | arm-dis | 13:29 |
| dmart | looks like a disassembler | 13:29 |
| asac | seems to not apply | 13:29 |
| dmart | hurd - also scary :P has this been ported to arm at all? | 13:29 |
| asac | !info hurd | 13:29 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package hurd does not exist in karmic | 13:29 |
| asac | heh | 13:30 |
| asac | thats out | 13:30 |
| asac | doesnt apply ;) | 13:30 |
| asac | !info imview | 13:30 |
| ubot4 | asac: imview (source: imview): Image viewing and analysis application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.9c-4ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 608 kB, installed size 1560 kB | 13:30 |
| dmart | hurd - guess not (or someone else's problem) | 13:30 |
| asac | false | 13:30 |
| asac | (imview) | 13:31 |
| dmart | yes | 13:31 |
| asac | !info insight | 13:31 |
| ubot4 | asac: insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-10.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1804 kB, installed size 5284 kB | 13:31 |
| asac | hmm | 13:31 |
| asac | smells like something was copied ;) | 13:31 |
| asac | i saw the sim/testsuite at least ;) | 13:31 |
| asac | also ./insight-6.7.1.dfsg.1/bfd/elf32-arm.c: | 13:32 |
| asac | thats some toolchain stuff? | 13:32 |
| dmart | embedded gdb, bfd and stuff ... yeah, bfd comes from binutils | 13:32 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: thats pselect6, feel free to implement :) | 13:32 |
| dmart | one for doko? I don't know what the /sim/ stuff is or how must we care | 13:32 |
| dmart | suihkulokki, ogra: was pselect6 implemented for arm yet? | 13:33 |
| dmart | asac: insighttoolkit - false-+ (x86 asm) | 13:34 |
| dmart | ironpython - false-+ | 13:34 |
| dmart | jamvm - swp-based atomics and native calls with mov pc, lr | 13:35 |
| * dmart grabs a sandwich | 13:36 | |
| * asac too | 13:36 | |
| ogra | i doubt pselect was implemented | 13:37 |
| ogra | well pselect6 | 13:37 |
| asac | ok did a checkpoint save on wiki | 13:38 |
| asac | getting some bread too | 13:38 |
| * NCommander grumbles | 13:39 | |
| asac | ok seems we did a big chunk ;) | 13:45 |
| asac | still only half way through :( | 13:45 |
| ogra | hmm | 13:45 |
| asac | kaya | 13:45 |
| * ogra doesnt get why he still sees qemu: Unsupported syscall: 242 | 13:46 | |
| asac | kino | 13:46 |
| asac | ogra: i dont get why it doesnt work at all for me ;) | 13:46 |
| asac | i am on lucid and plain lucid kerenel | 13:46 |
| ogra | according to linux-user/arm/syscall_nr.h thats supported now | 13:46 |
| asac | still get the binfmt problem :( | 13:46 |
| ogra | weird | 13:46 |
| ogra | works flawless here | 13:46 |
| ogra | even after the upgrade | 13:46 |
| ogra | can you try to run build-arm-choort standalone ? | 13:47 |
| asac | i will try to just use qemu-arm-static chroot manually | 13:47 |
| ogra | *chroot | 13:47 |
| asac | right. thats the idea | 13:47 |
| ogra | thats what i just did here | 13:47 |
| asac | ruinning | 13:47 |
| ogra | to find out if mono started to behave | 13:47 |
| ogra | but apparently its not | 13:47 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: that doesn't list supported syscalls. it lists syscall numbers. | 13:48 |
| ogra | oh, i thought they are only added there when someone implemented it actually | 13:48 |
| suihkulokki | read linux-user/syscall.c to find what is really supported | 13:48 |
| ogra | ok, that expleins it then | 13:48 |
| dmart | asac: did you get my comments up to jamwm? | 13:49 |
| ogra | i know there exists a patch for pselect and ppoll somewhere | 13:49 |
| asac | yes | 13:49 |
| dmart | ok | 13:49 |
| asac | dmart: i thought i saved that alradcy | 13:49 |
| ogra | but no idea if that was ever applied | 13:49 |
| asac | so lets continue | 13:49 |
| asac | kaya and kino ;) | 13:49 |
| dmart | I didn't read the scrollback very carefully... | 13:50 |
| asac | kaya false-+ | 13:50 |
| dmart | jocaml? | 13:50 |
| dmart | jocaml - some assembler with mov pc stuff, probably needs a look | 13:51 |
| asac | yes | 13:51 |
| asac | thats what is already in there | 13:51 |
| asac | skipped it | 13:51 |
| dmart | oh yes | 13:51 |
| suihkulokki | and no, getaffinity will not help you get mono work in qemu linux-user if that is why you are after 242 | 13:51 |
| asac | kino seems armv4l | 13:51 |
| asac | should be checked | 13:51 |
| dmart | cross-ref kino to ffmpeg - it's a embedded ffmpeg (may not be a problem if the system ffmpeg libs are used) | 13:52 |
| asac | hmm seems to be fffmpeg | 13:52 |
| asac | kompozer -> is a mess | 13:53 |
| asac | really old mozilla code | 13:53 |
| asac | dont think we can port that | 13:53 |
| asac | maybe it should finally get removed from archive | 13:53 |
| dmart | !info kompozer | 13:53 |
| ubot4 | dmart: kompozer (source: kompozer): complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2 (karmic), package size 7328 kB, installed size 19580 kB | 13:53 |
| dmart | hmmm, maybe make a note, but otherwise not too important I guess | 13:53 |
| asac | yes | 13:54 |
| asac | done | 13:54 |
| asac | !info kvirc | 13:54 |
| ubot4 | asac: kvirc (source: kvirc): KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.0~svn3240-1 (karmic), package size 2976 kB, installed size 9276 kB | 13:54 |
| dmart | kvirc - false-+ | 13:54 |
| asac | ack | 13:54 |
| asac | !info libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl | 13:55 |
| ubot4 | asac: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl (source: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl): Perl module wrapper for libgd - gd2 variant without XPM support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.39-2 (karmic), package size 216 kB, installed size 644 kB | 13:55 |
| asac | false | 13:55 |
| asac | + | 13:55 |
| dmart | agreed | 13:55 |
| asac | !info libgii | 13:55 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package libgii does not exist in karmic | 13:55 |
| asac | atomics | 13:55 |
| asac | !info libnet-dri-perl | 13:55 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package libnet-dri-perl does not exist in karmic | 13:55 |
| dmart | yes, may need a look | 13:55 |
| dmart | (libggi) | 13:55 |
| asac | false-+ | 13:55 |
| asac | !info libopenspc | 13:56 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package libopenspc does not exist in karmic | 13:56 |
| asac | other arch it seems | 13:56 |
| asac | !info libtk-img | 13:56 |
| ubot4 | asac: libtk-img (source: libtk-img): Extended image format support for Tcl/Tk (runtime). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3-release-8 (karmic), package size 118 kB, installed size 464 kB | 13:56 |
| dmart | libopenspc - might be a snes music chip emulator lib iirc | 13:56 |
| asac | also other arch false-+ | 13:56 |
| asac | yes, last two are other arch afaics | 13:57 |
| asac | !info libv8 ? | 13:57 |
| ubot4 | asac: '?' is not a valid distribution: hardy, intrepid, jaunty, karmic, lucid | 13:57 |
| asac | !info libv8 | 13:57 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package libv8 does not exist in karmic | 13:57 |
| asac | how did that get in that list? isnt libv8 the v8 js engine of chromium? | 13:57 |
| asac | afaik thats only packaged outside of archive | 13:57 |
| asac | anyway, needs a check ... generates arm code with mov | 13:58 |
| asac | !info lifelines | 13:59 |
| ubot4 | asac: lifelines (source: lifelines): text-based genealogy software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.61-1 (karmic), package size 967 kB, installed size 2392 kB | 13:59 |
| asac | false+ | 13:59 |
| * dmart acks recent packages | 13:59 | |
| asac | !info lightning-sunbird | 13:59 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package lightning-sunbird does not exist in karmic | 13:59 |
| asac | ok that one is mozilla code base | 13:59 |
| asac | we will move to something based on 1.9.2 branch | 13:59 |
| asac | so should be ok once we have the thumb patch landed | 14:00 |
| asac | (otherwise we have the patch) | 14:00 |
| asac | so: needs bump to 1.9.2 codebase + thumb2 patch | 14:00 |
| dmart | I guess we should keep track of all these x has embedded y somehow | 14:00 |
| asac | yeah | 14:01 |
| dmart | linux-rt - linux snapshow | 14:01 |
| asac | well. we open bugs and since we do it from top down we can add new tasks to the other bug | 14:01 |
| asac | yes, linux-rt -> dealt elsewhere? | 14:01 |
| dmart | agreed | 14:01 |
| asac | not sure where ;) | 14:01 |
| asac | we can assign a bug to cooloney or someone to ack that | 14:01 |
| asac | !info llvm-gcc-4.2 | 14:02 |
| ubot4 | asac: llvm-gcc-4.2 (source: llvm-gcc-4.2): C/C++ front end for LLVM compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6~pre1-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 23726 kB, installed size 107388 kB | 14:02 |
| asac | doko gcc | 14:02 |
| asac | ? | 14:02 |
| dmart | I think this is llvm, not gcc; for main we just said to review; we can probably link those together | 14:02 |
| asac | ok | 14:02 |
| asac | !info ltp | 14:03 |
| ubot4 | asac: ltp (source: ltp): The Linux Test Project test suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090531+dfsg-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 360 kB | 14:03 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:03 |
| asac | !info lwp | 14:03 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package lwp does not exist in karmic | 14:03 |
| asac | needes a check | 14:03 |
| asac | mov | 14:03 |
| asac | hmm | 14:03 |
| dmart | ltp - agreed | 14:03 |
| dmart | lwp - agreed (dunno what this is) | 14:04 |
| asac | !info lyx | 14:04 |
| ubot4 | asac: lyx (source: lyx): Document Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 3093 kB, installed size 7924 kB | 14:04 |
| asac | atomics check | 14:04 |
| asac | esems to be boost | 14:04 |
| ogra | suihkulokki, hmm, there seems to be anold suse patch for 242 http://paste.ubuntu.com/364585/ | 14:04 |
| asac | marking | 14:04 |
| ogra | *an old | 14:04 |
| dmart | asac: lyx - agreed | 14:05 |
| asac | !info mapivi | 14:05 |
| ubot4 | asac: mapivi (source: mapivi): Photo viewer and organizer with emphasis on IPTC fields. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1 (karmic), package size 426 kB, installed size 1676 kB | 14:05 |
| asac | false-ü | 14:05 |
| dmart | yes | 14:05 |
| asac | !info mapserver | 14:05 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package mapserver does not exist in karmic | 14:05 |
| asac | as well | 14:05 |
| asac | !info metacity-themes | 14:05 |
| ubot4 | asac: metacity-themes (source: metacity-themes): Themes for the Gtk2 metacity window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11 (karmic), package size 384 kB, installed size 1956 kB | 14:05 |
| asac | dito | 14:05 |
| dmart | mapserver, metachtiy-themes - agreed | 14:06 |
| * asac fighting with wiki ;) | 14:06 | |
| asac | ok | 14:07 |
| asac | !info mit-scheme | 14:07 |
| ubot4 | asac: mit-scheme (source: mit-scheme): MIT/GNU Scheme development environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.7.90+20090107-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 6662 kB, installed size 18380 kB (Only available for i386) | 14:07 |
| dmart | mit-scheme - x86 asm for scheme compiler... false-+ | 14:07 |
| asac | ack | 14:07 |
| asac | !info mlton | 14:07 |
| ubot4 | asac: mlton (source: mlton): Optimizing compiler for Standard ML. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070826-1 (karmic), package size 10647 kB, installed size 47156 kB (Only available for amd64 hppa i386 powerpc sparc) | 14:07 |
| asac | same | 14:07 |
| dmart | looks like it | 14:07 |
| asac | !info mupen64plus | 14:07 |
| ubot4 | asac: mupen64plus (source: mupen64plus): plugin-based Nintendo 64 emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5+dfsg1-7 (karmic), package size 1308 kB, installed size 4288 kB | 14:07 |
| asac | hope thats too ;) | 14:07 |
| asac | !info mysql-dfsg-5.0 | 14:08 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package mysql-dfsg-5.0 does not exist in karmic | 14:08 |
| dmart | mupen64plus - yes | 14:08 |
| asac | atomics ... do we already have a mysql one in main? | 14:08 |
| dmart | hmmm, I can't find it | 14:08 |
| dmart | guess that may need a look | 14:09 |
| dmart | !info netsurf | 14:09 |
| ubot4 | dmart: netsurf (source: netsurf): Small portable web browser with CSS and Unicode support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2-1build1 (karmic), package size 416 kB, installed size 1232 kB | 14:09 |
| dmart | ...but the matches are in /riscos/, so I don't expect it applies for us | 14:09 |
| dmart | openbios-ppc - surely not relevant | 14:10 |
| asac | ok netsurf is false+ then with riscos | 14:11 |
| asac | !info openocd | 14:11 |
| ubot4 | asac: openocd (source: openocd): Open on-chip JTAG debug solution for ARM and MIPS systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0+r2403-1 (karmic), package size 1882 kB, installed size 4960 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armel armeb hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m32r m68k mips mipsel netbsd-alpha netbsd-i386 powerpc sh sparc) | 14:11 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: which is buggy. and as I said, wont help with mono. | 14:11 |
| dmart | openocd - some kind of embedded hardware debugger? Probably not relevant for us. | 14:11 |
| asac | interesting | 14:11 |
| asac | guess that needs a check | 14:11 |
| asac | hmm | 14:11 |
| dmart | maybe take a quick look, but my guess is that the asm doesn't run on the host | 14:12 |
| asac | i dont know how that is run. guess in worst case it can be built with -marm? | 14:12 |
| asac | hmm code be | 14:12 |
| asac | could | 14:12 |
| dmart | Hmmm, yes, I guess the code will get built by something. Maybe you're expected to install cross tools packages or something. | 14:12 |
| asac | !info openser | 14:13 |
| ubot4 | asac: openser (source: openser): very fast and configurable SIP proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3 (karmic), package size 1357 kB, installed size 3856 kB | 14:13 |
| asac | i like those "very, very" software ;) | 14:13 |
| asac | atomics candidate | 14:13 |
| asac | !info oprofile | 14:13 |
| ubot4 | asac: oprofile (source: oprofile): system-wide profiler for Linux systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4+cvs20090629-2.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1365 kB, installed size 5152 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha hppa powerpc sparc amd64 arm armel mips mipsel s390 lpia) | 14:13 |
| dmart | openocd - Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8), libftdi1 (>= 0.17), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.4.0), libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12), dpkg (>= 1.15.4) | install-info (not very informative) | 14:13 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:13 |
| dmart | oprofile seems to work (-ish) on lucid, though I do have to unload and reinitialise it between profiling runs. | 14:14 |
| asac | dmart: yeah. i marked openocd package for manual review | 14:14 |
| asac | yeah. but there is no real code in the filter logs | 14:14 |
| asac | so i think its false-positive for this list | 14:15 |
| asac | !info osiris | 14:15 |
| ubot4 | asac: osiris (source: osiris): network-wide system integrity monitor control interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.3-3 (karmic), package size 392 kB, installed size 916 kB | 14:15 |
| dmart | oprofile - agreed | 14:15 |
| asac | atomics ... db4.2 copy | 14:15 |
| asac | dupe | 14:15 |
| dmart | yes | 14:15 |
| asac | !info palbart | 14:15 |
| ubot4 | asac: palbart (source: palbart): An enhanced version of the PAL PDP8 assembler. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4-5 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB | 14:15 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:15 |
| asac | paraview | 14:16 |
| asac | !info paraview | 14:16 |
| dmart | hmmm, 60-70% of the way through the list | 14:16 |
| ubot4 | asac: paraview (source: paraview): Parallel Visualization Application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.4.0-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 43766 kB, installed size 154432 kB | 14:16 |
| asac | yes. we can stop soon ;=) | 14:16 |
| asac | paraview -> x86 | 14:16 |
| dmart | :) | 14:16 |
| dmart | palbart - agreed | 14:16 |
| asac | !info parrot | 14:16 |
| ubot4 | asac: parrot (source: parrot): A virtual machine for dynamic languages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 205 kB, installed size 728 kB | 14:16 |
| dmart | paraview - agreed | 14:16 |
| asac | has a mov pc, ip | 14:17 |
| dmart | Also in /jit/... guess it needs a look | 14:17 |
| asac | yes | 14:17 |
| asac | !info pdl | 14:17 |
| ubot4 | asac: pdl (source: pdl): perl data language: Perl extensions for numerics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.3-8ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 4781 kB, installed size 15648 kB | 14:17 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:17 |
| asac | good | 14:17 |
| asac | !info perl-tk | 14:17 |
| ubot4 | asac: perl-tk (source: perl-tk): Perl module providing the Tk graphics library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:804.028-5 (karmic), package size 2455 kB, installed size 8596 kB | 14:17 |
| dmart | pdl - agreed | 14:17 |
| asac | x86 | 14:17 |
| dmart | perl-tk - agreed | 14:18 |
| asac | !info petsc | 14:18 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package petsc does not exist in karmic | 14:18 |
| asac | alse false-+ | 14:18 |
| dmart | agreed | 14:18 |
| asac | !info php-apc | 14:18 |
| ubot4 | asac: php-apc (source: php-apc): APC (Alternative PHP Cache) module for PHP 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19-2 (karmic), package size 56 kB, installed size 172 kB | 14:18 |
| dmart | swp-based spinlock | 14:18 |
| asac | yes | 14:18 |
| dmart | needs a look | 14:18 |
| asac | !info plt-scheme | 14:18 |
| ubot4 | asac: plt-scheme (source: plt-scheme): PLT Scheme Programming Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-1 (karmic), package size 32256 kB, installed size 147924 kB | 14:18 |
| dmart | similar | 14:19 |
| asac | libffi | 14:19 |
| dmart | yes | 14:19 |
| asac | and mzscheme | 14:19 |
| asac | never heard of that | 14:19 |
| dmart | mzscheme? | 14:19 |
| asac | ok comment is: "libffi call_reg + mzscheme swp/atomics" | 14:19 |
| asac | well ;) the source file is: | 14:19 |
| dmart | ok | 14:19 |
| asac | ./plt-scheme-4.2.1/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gc_locks.h: | 14:20 |
| asac | no clue if that is a third party | 14:20 |
| asac | !info postgresql-8.3 | 14:20 |
| ubot4 | asac: postgresql-8.3 (source: postgresql-8.3): object-relational SQL database, version 8.3 server. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.3.8-1 (karmic), package size 5011 kB, installed size 14132 kB | 14:20 |
| dmart | yeah, dunno | 14:20 |
| asac | guess that needs atomics | 14:20 |
| asac | right... same fix we have for 8.4 | 14:20 |
| dmart | ./postgresql-8.4-8.4.1/src/include/storage/s_lock.h: " swpb %0, %0, [%2] \n" | 14:20 |
| dmart | yes, link it to that | 14:20 |
| asac | done | 14:20 |
| asac | !info ptop | 14:20 |
| ubot4 | asac: ptop (source: ptop): PostgreSQL performance monitoring tool akin to top. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.2-1 (karmic), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB | 14:20 |
| dmart | false-+ | 14:20 |
| asac | yes | 14:21 |
| dmart | python* -> doko? | 14:21 |
| asac | python is doko | 14:21 |
| asac | !info r-cran-eco | 14:21 |
| ubot4 | asac: r-cran-eco (source: r-cran-eco): GNU R routines for Bayesian ecological inference. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4-1 (karmic), package size 248 kB, installed size 744 kB | 14:21 |
| dmart | r-cran-* - looks like false-+ | 14:21 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:21 |
| asac | yes | 14:21 |
| asac | (both) | 14:21 |
| dmart | !info radare | 14:21 |
| ubot4 | dmart: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB | 14:21 |
| asac | !info radare | 14:21 |
| ubot4 | asac: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB | 14:21 |
| dmart | ! | 14:21 |
| asac | disassembler | 14:22 |
| asac | guess can be ignored | 14:22 |
| dmart | a hex editor with an arm disassembler in it? | 14:22 |
| dmart | weird | 14:22 |
| asac | hehe | 14:22 |
| asac | ;) | 14:22 |
| dmart | sounds like emacs ;) | 14:22 |
| asac | maybe i should try that :) | 14:22 |
| asac | !info rlplot | 14:22 |
| ubot4 | asac: rlplot (source: rlplot): Generate publication quality graphs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (karmic), package size 955 kB, installed size 2440 kB | 14:22 |
| dmart | can see how that might be useful | 14:22 |
| asac | false | 14:22 |
| asac | + | 14:22 |
| dmart | yes | 14:22 |
| asac | !info root-system | 14:23 |
| ubot4 | asac: root-system (source: root-system): Meta package to install all ROOT packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.18.00-2.3ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 26 kB, installed size 72 kB | 14:23 |
| asac | x86 | 14:23 |
| dmart | root-system - x86 asm false-+ | 14:23 |
| asac | !info rtai | 14:23 |
| ubot4 | asac: rtai (source: rtai): Real Time Application Interface. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.1-1 (karmic), package size 34 kB, installed size 68 kB | 14:23 |
| dmart | some arm asm in there... probably needs a look | 14:23 |
| asac | whats that? with imx patches? | 14:23 |
| dmart | (atomics, pc arith) | 14:24 |
| dmart | unless this is a bare-metal thing? | 14:24 |
| dmart | Probably imx < imx51 | 14:24 |
| asac | yeah | 14:24 |
| asac | !info scummvm | 14:24 |
| ubot4 | asac: scummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' SCUMM interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-1-1 (karmic), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9152 kB | 14:24 |
| dmart | (there are some earlier architectures) | 14:24 |
| asac | seems it has mov | 14:24 |
| asac | search-arm-mov.filt: ./scummvm-1.0.0~rc1-1/backends/platform/ds/arm9/source/interrupt.s:movpc,lr | 14:25 |
| asac | ? | 14:25 |
| asac | or isnt arm9 what we are doing? | 14:25 |
| asac | hmm .. .gues snot | 14:25 |
| asac | needs to be checked ;) | 14:25 |
| dmart | might need a look... it might be in sound chip cmulation code or something though | 14:25 |
| dmart | have to have scummvm working on netbooks though :) | 14:25 |
| asac | yes | 14:25 |
| asac | !info sdparm | 14:25 |
| ubot4 | asac: sdparm (source: sdparm): Output and modify SCSI device parameters. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.02-1 (karmic), package size 113 kB, installed size 372 kB | 14:25 |
| asac | false | 14:25 |
| dmart | yes | 14:26 |
| asac | ok seamonkey is mozilla gain | 14:26 |
| asac | needs 1.9.2 | 14:26 |
| asac | etc. | 14:26 |
| dmart | ok | 14:26 |
| dmart | see - false-+ | 14:26 |
| asac | !info skyeye | 14:26 |
| ubot4 | asac: skyeye (source: skyeye): Embedded Hardware Simulation. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.5-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 239 kB, installed size 700 kB | 14:26 |
| dmart | Did we alreay have ser? | 14:26 |
| asac | oh skipped ;) | 14:27 |
| asac | sorry | 14:27 |
| asac | !info ser | 14:27 |
| ubot4 | asac: ser (source: ser): high-performance SIP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-2 (karmic), package size 1488 kB, installed size 3876 kB | 14:27 |
| dmart | some atomics, it does use lrdex/strex but we need to check that is actually used on v7, and that it's smp-safe | 14:27 |
| dmart | skyeye - a emulator of embedded arm platforms, guess it doesn't apply | 14:28 |
| * dmart scrolls again | 14:29 | |
| dmart | I can see the end of the table now | 14:29 |
| dmart | sm - looks like false-+ | 14:29 |
| dmart | !info softgun | 14:30 |
| ubot4 | dmart: softgun (source: softgun): ARM system emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 372 kB, installed size 1096 kB | 14:30 |
| dmart | softgun - false-+ (arm instruction decode emulation...) | 14:30 |
| asac | sorry got pulled out ;) ... back now | 14:30 |
| dmart | I think we had skyeye, softgun since | 14:31 |
| dmart | Plus ser if you didn't note that yet | 14:31 |
| dmart | spu-newlib - code looks similar / the same as newlib from main. I guess we can link the two. | 14:32 |
| dmart | !info survex | 14:32 |
| ubot4 | dmart: survex (source: survex): cave surveying and mapping software. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.39.1-2.1 (karmic), package size 656 kB, installed size 1700 kB | 14:32 |
| dmart | some asm code in /riscos/ ... probably doesn't apply | 14:32 |
| asac | softgun, yes. | 14:33 |
| dmart | synopsis - embedded libatomic_ops | 14:34 |
| dmart | (or very similar code anyway). Link those? | 14:35 |
| asac | eah | 14:36 |
| asac | yeah | 14:36 |
| dmart | !info systemtap | 14:36 |
| ubot4 | dmart: systemtap (source: systemtap): instrumentation system for Linux 2.6. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20090613-1 (karmic), package size 851 kB, installed size 3440 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64 s390 powerpc arm armel armeb all) | 14:36 |
| dmart | I guess it needs a look... sub <reg>, pc, 4 | 14:36 |
| asac | yes | 14:36 |
| dmart | What does ubot mean by (Only available for [...] all)? | 14:36 |
| asac | uboot-imx -> skip | 14:36 |
| dmart | uboot-imx - yes | 14:37 |
| asac | no clue | 14:37 |
| asac | thats a bug | 14:37 |
| dmart | Well, I guess it's logically true ;) | 14:37 |
| armin76 | !info asac | 14:37 |
| ubot4 | armin76: Package asac does not exist in karmic | 14:37 |
| asac | we are really almost done | 14:38 |
| asac | like 12 to go ;) | 14:38 |
| asac | !info uclmmbase | 14:38 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package uclmmbase does not exist in karmic | 14:38 |
| dmart | looks like false-+ to me | 14:38 |
| asac | ack | 14:39 |
| dmart | virtualbox-ose - what's this doing with embedded mozilla code? | 14:39 |
| asac | dont ask me :( | 14:39 |
| asac | needs to be check | 14:39 |
| asac | ed | 14:39 |
| asac | !info visualboyadvance | 14:40 |
| ubot4 | asac: visualboyadvance (source: visualboyadvance): full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.0-5 (karmic), package size 308 kB, installed size 1360 kB | 14:40 |
| dmart | visualboy advance - emulator, not relevant I guess | 14:40 |
| asac | haha | 14:40 |
| asac | yeah | 14:40 |
| asac | !info vtk | 14:40 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package vtk does not exist in karmic | 14:40 |
| asac | x86 | 14:41 |
| dmart | seems to be some x86 asm | 14:41 |
| ogra | asac, did your test with build-arm-chroot work ? | 14:41 |
| asac | ogra: failed the same way :( | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting sysvinit-utils... | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting tar... | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting tzdata... | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting upstart... | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting util-linux... | 14:41 |
| asac | I: Extracting zlib1g... | 14:41 |
| asac | chroot: cannot run command `debootstrap/debootstrap': Exec format error | 14:41 |
| ogra | meh | 14:41 |
| asac | websvn -> false-+ | 14:41 |
| ogra | try to reinstall qemu-arm-static | 14:41 |
| dmart | wrong arch? | 14:41 |
| asac | !info wine | 14:41 |
| ubot4 | asac: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu8 (karmic), package size 7359 kB, installed size 54436 kB | 14:41 |
| asac | ogra: will do. does that compile something on install? | 14:41 |
| asac | false positive (wine) | 14:42 |
| ogra | it sets the sysctl stuff for procps | 14:42 |
| dmart | I don't expect wine works on arm? | 14:42 |
| asac | same for wine1.2 | 14:42 |
| asac | heh | 14:42 |
| ogra | and dumps the binfmt hgandler in place | 14:42 |
| asac | would be funny if it did ;) | 14:42 |
| ogra | *handler | 14:42 |
| dmart | wireshark -+ | 14:42 |
| asac | ogra: let me finish this ;) ... | 14:42 |
| ogra | probably wine-ce :) | 14:42 |
| asac | almost dying ;) | 14:42 |
| dmart | wxwidgets* -+ (same x86 code as vtk) | 14:42 |
| asac | !info wireshark | 14:42 |
| ubot4 | asac: wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-2 (karmic), package size 716 kB, installed size 1824 kB | 14:42 |
| dmart | (only 6 more) | 14:42 |
| ogra | asac, yeah, i see W :) | 14:43 |
| asac | ah | 14:43 |
| asac | yeah thats fals-+ | 14:43 |
| asac | and the ex thing too | 14:43 |
| dmart | !info xenomai | 14:43 |
| ubot4 | dmart: Package xenomai does not exist in karmic | 14:43 |
| dmart | bah | 14:43 |
| asac | !info xemacs21-packages | 14:43 |
| ubot4 | asac: Package xemacs21-packages does not exist in karmic | 14:43 |
| asac | guess emacs is covered | 14:43 |
| dmart | yes | 14:43 |
| dmart | xenomai has swp-based atomics and other asm | 14:43 |
| dmart | probably needs a look | 14:44 |
| asac | yeah. lots of stuff in there | 14:44 |
| asac | !info xindy | 14:44 |
| ubot4 | asac: xindy (source: xindy): index generator for structured documents like LaTeX or SGML. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-2 (karmic), package size 2245 kB, installed size 3656 kB | 14:44 |
| dmart | I predict -+ | 14:44 |
| asac | it has mov etc. | 14:44 |
| dmart | oh | 14:45 |
| asac | rte/... | 14:45 |
| asac | that looks familliar | 14:45 |
| asac | is that a code copy again? | 14:45 |
| dmart | clisp-2.43/ffcall | 14:45 |
| dmart | I don't think so (can't find it anyway) | 14:45 |
| asac | yes | 14:45 |
| asac | !info xmp | 14:46 |
| ubot4 | asac: xmp (source: xmp): A module player supporting AWE32, GUS, and software-mixing. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.7.0-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 235 kB, installed size 560 kB | 14:46 |
| dmart | some embedded lisp interpreter anyway | 14:46 |
| asac | false-+ | 14:46 |
| asac | !info xulrunner | 14:46 |
| ubot4 | asac: xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB | 14:46 |
| asac | -> covered by xul 1.9.2 + patch | 14:46 |
| asac | still needed (so a bug) | 14:46 |
| asac | !info yabause | 14:46 |
| ubot4 | asac: yabause (source: yabause): beautiful and under-rated Saturn emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1 (karmic), package size 16 kB, installed size 52 kB | 14:46 |
| asac | (LAST ONE) | 14:46 |
| asac | x86 false + | 14:47 |
| dmart | -+ yes | 14:47 |
| asac | yessssss | 14:47 |
| ogra | whats a saturn emulator | 14:47 |
| dmart | The author is modest in the description ;) | 14:47 |
| dmart | sega saturn? | 14:47 |
| asac | ok saving | 14:47 |
| asac | uff | 14:47 |
| asac | i think i need a break | 14:47 |
| ogra | ah, sega | 14:47 |
| ogra | i was wondering about something kosmic :) | 14:48 |
| dmart | main() { while(1) be big and round; } | 14:48 |
| asac | dmart: did you move the false-positives out to a separte table for main? | 14:48 |
| asac | i guess we should do tha tbefore starting to file bugs ;) | 14:49 |
| dmart | I made a heading with "Disregarded packages (no further action required)" - the junk is under there. We can maybe move all that stuff to the end of the page | 14:49 |
| asac | yeah | 14:49 |
| asac | or to a separte wiki page even | 14:50 |
| dmart | For universe, I already made [DISREGARDED], though it is not a proper wiki heading | 14:50 |
| asac | to make that page less huge | 14:50 |
| dmart | Yes, a separate page would be good | 14:50 |
| asac | we should surely add a ToC | 14:50 |
| dmart | How do you do that in the Ubuntu wiki? | 14:50 |
| asac | one second there are examples | 14:50 |
| asac | like on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | 14:51 |
| asac | so ||<tablestyle="float:right; font-size: 0.9em; width:30%; background:#F1F1ED; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: 98% 0.5ex; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; padding: 0.5em;"><<TableOfContents>>|| | 14:51 |
| asac | guess just <<TableOfContents>> wrks | 14:51 |
| asac | but looks bad | 14:51 |
| asac | let me add it | 14:51 |
| dmart | okay | 14:51 |
| dmart | thanks | 14:51 |
| asac | ok its on there | 14:52 |
| asac | a bit huge ;) | 14:52 |
| dmart | it works | 14:52 |
| asac | hmm. let me remove the width constraint | 14:52 |
| asac | thats bad | 14:52 |
| asac | ok saved | 14:53 |
| asac | its better now | 14:53 |
| asac | dont think we need a new page with that | 14:53 |
| dmart | ok | 14:53 |
| asac | just so that the not so releva nt stuff gets to the bottom or osmething | 14:53 |
| dmart | I should write a wiki page with an overview of what sort of action is needed to fix the different kinds of matches, then we can link to if from the bugs raised | 14:54 |
| asac | dmart: yes, if you can do that it would be great | 15:46 |
| asac | we could also port a few different cases, and then point to the patches as examples | 15:46 |
| asac | if thats easier | 15:46 |
| dmart | Yes, that would be good. | 15:46 |
| dmart | I'm writing some stuff for the wiki now... | 15:47 |
| dmart | The "mov pc" type cases, and cases where "swp" is causing ftbfs, are the highest priority things for luci, since these may break function calls. | 15:48 |
| dmart | The swp and smp-safety stuff is more for future-proofing and some performance aspects (though we should work through these, time allowing). | 15:49 |
| dmart | I'll try to explain this on the wiki... | 15:49 |
| asac | 17:13 < seb128> asac, can somebody maybe get a stracktrace? | 16:14 |
| ogra | hmm, so sqid fails reliably at the same line with a segfault | 16:14 |
| asac | plars: ^^ | 16:14 |
| asac | thats on nautilus crash | 16:14 |
| ogra | *squid | 16:14 |
| asac | plars: we are looking at the diff atm. | 16:15 |
| plars | asac: this is on the gvfs thing? | 16:15 |
| asac | plars: yes | 16:15 |
| plars | asac: sure, let me see what I can do | 16:15 |
| asac | ogra: we want the -save-temps .ii ... then give that doko | 16:15 |
| ogra | ? | 16:15 |
| asac | guess needs a local build ;) | 16:15 |
| asac | ogra: doko probably will probably want a .ii file for the source that causes the gcc crash | 16:16 |
| asac | so build with -save-temps | 16:16 |
| asac | in CFLAGS | 16:16 |
| ogra | oh, ok | 16:16 |
| asac | dmart: thanks. | 16:17 |
| asac | i will try to adjust priority for the bugs i file accordingly | 16:17 |
| asac | making the mov pc and swp with ftbfs release critical | 16:17 |
| asac | ogra: so what do you want from binfmt? | 16:17 |
| ogra | i ? | 16:17 |
| ogra | you want something from binfmt :) | 16:17 |
| ogra | check if /usr/share/binfmts/arm exists | 16:17 |
| asac | find /sys/ | grep binfmt | pastebinit | 16:17 |
| asac | http://pastebin.com/f63420615 | 16:17 |
| asac | ok | 16:18 |
| ogra | and also check for /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf | 16:18 |
| ogra | these are the two files that enable qemu-arm-static | 16:18 |
| asac | i have /usr/share/binfmts/arm | 16:18 |
| asac | cat /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf | 16:18 |
| asac | vm.vdso_enabled = 0 | 16:18 |
| asac | vm.mmap_min_addr = 4097 | 16:18 |
| asac | now reinstalling the quem-arm-static | 16:19 |
| asac | one second | 16:19 |
| ogra | well, thats all looking good | 16:19 |
| ogra | do you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support ? | 16:19 |
| lool | asac: It's in /proc | 16:19 |
| lool | /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm usually | 16:19 |
| asac | ogra: yes. | 16:20 |
| asac | cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm | 16:20 |
| asac | enabled | 16:20 |
| asac | interpreter /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static | 16:20 |
| asac | flags: | 16:20 |
| asac | offset 0 | 16:20 |
| asac | magic 7f454c4601010100000000000000000002002800 | 16:20 |
| asac | mask ffffffffffffff00fffffffffffffffffeffffff | 16:20 |
| asac | looks good too i guess :( | 16:20 |
| ogra | lool, last time we checked his machine didnt even have binfmt_misc loaded | 16:20 |
| lool | asac: Try running /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static | 16:20 |
| asac | yeah. thats loaded now | 16:20 |
| asac | (i force it in modules) | 16:20 |
| ogra | asac, by running the initscript ? | 16:20 |
| ogra | thats wrong | 16:20 |
| asac | ogra: no in /etc/modules | 16:20 |
| ogra | the initscript wraps a lot of other stuff around it | 16:20 |
| asac | guess i need some arm binary | 16:21 |
| ogra | check if you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support in place | 16:21 |
| asac | to test /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static | 16:21 |
| asac | what would be a good one? | 16:21 |
| ogra | just run build-arm-chroot | 16:21 |
| asac | ogra: i have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support | 16:21 |
| ogra | second stage execs in qemu-arm-static | 16:21 |
| asac | ogra: well. thats what i ran before ;) | 16:21 |
| asac | it failed the same way | 16:21 |
| ogra | then i dont get why you have to forcefully load the module | 16:21 |
| asac | and since i didnt even change anything i would think it still fails | 16:22 |
| ogra | if the initscript runs it should load it | 16:22 |
| asac | anyway. i reinstalled the package | 16:22 |
| asac | let me try again | 16:22 |
| * asac runs | 16:22 | |
| ogra | i suspect its rather binfmt-support | 16:22 |
| asac | build-arm-chroot lucid lucid1 | 16:22 |
| ogra | than qemu-arm-static | 16:22 |
| ogra | +you should really use a local package proxy :) | 16:22 |
| asac | what does /usr/sbin/update-binfmts do? | 16:23 |
| asac | worth running? | 16:23 |
| ogra | it enables the arm binfmt handler | 16:23 |
| ogra | it runs from the postinst of qemu-arm-static | 16:23 |
| asac | ok reinstalling the -support package | 16:23 |
| asac | hmm | 16:23 |
| asac | update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-6, but binary format | 16:23 |
| asac | already installed by sun-java6 * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support | 16:23 |
| asac | guess thats not a prob | 16:24 |
| asac | lets wait if the chroot fails again | 16:24 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:24 |
| ogra | i dont get why your binfmt module isnt loaded though | 16:24 |
| asac | ogra: its loaded atm | 16:25 |
| asac | havent checked if it still doesnt get loaded | 16:25 |
| ogra | no, i mean by the initscript | 16:25 |
| asac | will reboot after the chroot fails | 16:25 |
| asac | yeah. i will double check ... maybe its fixed now somehow ;) | 16:25 |
| ogra | heh | 16:25 |
| plars | asac: wasn't having much luck getting a backtrace with symbols yesterday, but I'm not seeing any -dbg packages for gvfs stuff | 16:25 |
| asac | plars: we have -dbgsym | 16:25 |
| asac | http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ | 16:25 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 16:26 |
| ogra | and -dbg packages should additionally be on LP | 16:26 |
| asac | there are the apt lines you need to get -dbgsym for packages that dont have -dbg | 16:26 |
| asac | not for all packages | 16:26 |
| ogra | usually for all gnome ones | 16:26 |
| asac | ogra: none for gvfscommon | 16:28 |
| ogra | oh | 16:28 |
| asac | plars: so yeah. grab the -dbgsym ... also for glib i guess and gio or whatever is involved | 16:28 |
| asac | and libc-dbg | 16:28 |
| asac | etc. | 16:28 |
| asac | but guess you just lacked the ddeb trick | 16:28 |
| asac | ogra: | 16:29 |
| asac | I: Configuring libselinux1... | 16:29 |
| asac | I: Configuring libstdc++6... | 16:29 |
| asac | I: Configuring coreutils... | 16:29 |
| asac | I: Configuring makedev... | 16:29 |
| asac | that looks good, right? | 16:29 |
| ogra | yes | 16:29 |
| * asac thinks it didnt get that far last time | 16:29 | |
| asac | nice | 16:29 |
| asac | so reinstall one of the two packages helped | 16:29 |
| asac | so seems something with triggers isnt right | 16:29 |
| asac | bad packaging ;) | 16:29 |
| ogra | i suspect binfmt-support | 16:29 |
| asac | guess it doesnt ship any triggers | 16:30 |
| asac | but should | 16:30 |
| ogra | since the module was missing | 16:30 |
| asac | too bad i reinstalled both ;) | 16:30 |
| asac | otherwise we would have known it now | 16:30 |
| ogra | or its just that lool broke qemu-arm-static with all his repackaging :P | 16:30 |
| * ogra hides | 16:30 | |
| asac | lol | 16:30 |
| asac | did anything happen on that front at all? | 16:31 |
| asac | thought its still the same somewhat | 16:31 |
| ogra | no, we dropped the spec | 16:31 |
| ogra | it works, why break it | 16:31 |
| ogra | i'D love to see mono support | 16:31 |
| ogra | then rootstock wouldnt need a vm | 16:31 |
| ogra | but given that this seems close to impossible to fix (its very old and many people tried before) i wont waste my time on it | 16:32 |
| asac | ok now for rootstock | 16:38 |
| Devils0411 | Âñåì äîáðûé âå÷åð | 16:38 |
| Devils0411 | åñòü ðóññêèå? | 16:38 |
| ogra | Devils0411, english please :) | 16:38 |
| ogra | lool, did you get anywhere with the versatile kernel ? | 16:40 |
| Devils0411 | Offtopic. Who knows, what OS in this device http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=undefined&product_id=211 | 16:40 |
| plars | asac: still not having much luck | 16:46 |
| asac | plars: how does the backtrace look like? | 16:46 |
| plars | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364678/ | 16:47 |
| === bjf-afk is now known as _bjf | ||
| asac | plars: post that to the bug and say thats best you can get | 16:48 |
| asac | what is signal 6 ? | 16:48 |
| plars | asac: sigabrt | 16:49 |
| ogra | thats not gvfs | 16:49 |
| asac | ogra: the downgrade of libgvfscommon fixes it | 16:49 |
| ogra | cant you somehow get a gvfs BT | 16:49 |
| asac | could be that its nautilus, but for now it feels its gvfs ... especially since that has a recent update | 16:50 |
| ogra | no, i meant the backtrace | 16:50 |
| asac | well. nautilus links against libgvfs? | 16:50 |
| ogra | i wonder if there is a way to rather get something more diectly from gvfs | 16:50 |
| asac | for that we need to find someting else that crashes i guess | 16:51 |
| Devils0411 | That's what I found! / bin / uname-a | 16:52 |
| Devils0411 | ---------------------------------- | 16:52 |
| Devils0411 | Eval command:! / bin / uname-a | 16:52 |
| Devils0411 | Linux nas_storage 2.6.20.21-4600 # 30 PREEMPT Fri Apr 10 12:06:05 CST 2009 i686 unknown | 16:52 |
| Devils0411 | but what exactly is OS? | 16:52 |
| GrueMaster | Devils0411: It could be in-house. Either way, it isn't arm based. | 16:52 |
| ogra | asac, well, apt-cache rdepends gvfs gets quite a bunch of binaries that depend on it | 16:53 |
| Devils0411 | How to determine? | 16:54 |
| asac | plars: do you see crashes in any of those? | 16:55 |
| asac | evince | 16:55 |
| asac | ekiga | 16:55 |
| asac | guess you need to open something throw gvfs | 16:55 |
| ogra | i guess deb-gview would be an easy candidate to test from cmdline | 16:55 |
| plars | asac: will have to try remotely, as the nautilus issue keeps me from getting into X successfully | 16:55 |
| ogra | seems a small thing | 16:55 |
| asac | plars: cant you comment it out in gnome-session? | 16:55 |
| plars | asac: then I just get a blank desktop, no gnome, just a cursor | 16:56 |
| asac | so gnome-panel also dies? | 16:56 |
| plars | evince works | 16:56 |
| ogra | see the reverse deps :) | 16:56 |
| plars | does not crash | 16:56 |
| ogra | yeah, here too | 16:56 |
| plars | installing ekiga | 16:57 |
| ogra | i guess until you open something | 16:57 |
| ogra | using a gvfs path | 16:57 |
| asac | plars: did you open something from a gvfs location? | 16:57 |
| asac | like ssh? | 16:57 |
| asac | or just with gvfs path, yeah | 16:57 |
| asac | not sure about the syntax though | 16:57 |
| ogra | i wonder what gcalctool does with gvfs | 16:59 |
| asac | plars: maybe using evince file:///path/to/file.pdf ... would trigger gvfs code paths | 16:59 |
| ogra | it doesnt even have a file dialog | 16:59 |
| asac | evince? | 17:00 |
| asac | wow | 17:00 |
| asac | o gcalctool | 17:00 |
| ogra | no, gcalctool | 17:00 |
| asac | yea. i think its clutter | 17:00 |
| asac | -Wl,--as-needed | 17:01 |
| asac | missing | 17:01 |
| plars | evince still working fine, even with file:// path | 17:02 |
| ogra | hmm, opening a file in evince complains a lot about gconfd not running | 17:02 |
| asac | ogra: opening with file:// ? | 17:02 |
| plars | ys | 17:02 |
| ogra | yep | 17:02 |
| asac | anyway. | 17:02 |
| ogra | or with the file dialog | 17:02 |
| asac | so i have to get the code ;) | 17:02 |
| asac | the patch alone hasnt enough context | 17:02 |
| ogra | brasero works fine as well | 17:04 |
| ogra | i can add files etc | 17:04 |
| ogra | so its likely the way nautilus uses gvfs | 17:04 |
| ogra | oh | 17:05 |
| ogra | and i can fire off nautilus --no-desktop through ssh | 17:05 |
| ogra | so its nautilus in interaction with something that actually causes the crash | 17:06 |
| GrueMaster | Are these problems the reason we don't have daily builds? | 17:07 |
| ogra | no | 17:08 |
| ogra | gnome uploads arent finished | 17:08 |
| ogra | there are out of sync packages | 17:08 |
| ogra | (the logs should tell) | 17:08 |
| GrueMaster | Any eta? | 17:08 |
| ogra | no idea | 17:08 |
| ogra | its a development release :) | 17:08 |
| ogra | people upload stuff | 17:08 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, seems the breaking dove keeps imx51 from building, i manually triggered an imx51 build now | 17:23 |
| asac_ | plars: so you say just gvfscommon fixes it? | 17:23 |
| GrueMaster | yea. | 17:23 |
| plars | libgvfscommon0 | 17:23 |
| plars | downgrading by one level fixes | 17:24 |
| asac_ | hmm | 17:25 |
| asac_ | plars: all other gvfs packages are up to date? e.g. gvfs-backends? | 17:26 |
| plars | asac: yes | 17:26 |
| asac_ | and have the same versoin as the crasjing common package i guess? | 17:26 |
| plars | asac: yes, all of them at 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 | 17:27 |
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| ogra | ok, all gstreamer bits (including totem) are gone from the ftbfs list | 17:30 |
| * ogra wishes the page would be updated more frequently than once a day | 17:31 | |
| asac | right | 17:39 |
| asac | ogra: do you know who owns that? | 17:40 |
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| asac | ogra: what was the url i had to use for the lucid kernel? | 20:51 |
| ogra | asac, which one ? for qemu ? | 20:57 |
| asac | ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364787/ | 20:59 |
| ogra | oh, yeah, thats the jaunty one | 20:59 |
| ogra | you try to build lucid, right ? | 21:00 |
| ogra | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/project-rootstock/trunk/revision/31 | 21:00 |
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