[00:41] hello [00:41] does any one know where there is some instructions on how to install ubuntu arm on n800? === bjf is now known as bjf-afk [08:31] hi [08:31] is asm("bkpt"); a good way to cause breakpoint in code? === ogra_ is now known as ogra === asac_ is now known as asac [10:59] o/ [10:59] cant believe that my auto joining works again ;) [10:59] even on +R channels [10:59] seems i sent "ident" to nickserv which it doesnt like anymore [11:05] well, dont reconnect in a way that you get an underscore on your nick [11:05] thats overly annoying [12:07] attached filtered debdiff for gvfs update (re bug 512959) [12:07] Launchpad bug 512959 in gvfs "nautilus assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: nautilus terminated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512959 [12:19] asac: Hi there; unfortunately I had an overrunning meeting, but I'm available now. [12:19] dmart: hi [12:19] cool [12:19] so i started to file bugs ;) [12:19] for main [12:19] added the numbers to the status col [12:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList [12:20] i am done to gmp [12:20] Looks good [12:20] * asac wonders if there is a shorthand syntax for lp bugs in the wiki [12:20] i didnt subscribe you to those bugs as you are member of ubuntu-armel i figured [12:22] asac, i think there is, but i cant remember the syntax, i know persia usually does :) [12:23] universe are so many packages :( [12:23] dunno... I shoved it though sed... refresh the page [12:23] yeah [12:23] anyway. getting the logs now [12:23] I was seeing a lot of false-positives, so it may be relatively quick [12:23] great [12:25] ok got the logs ... (thx wiki) ... now geting a new coffee and then we can lift off ;) [12:31] ok after not visiting that page lets get started ;) [12:32] cacao [12:32] needs a check (by doko) [12:33] Yes. I'm not sure why this appears separately from cacao-source; I guess it's basically the same issues [12:33] uses atomics and mov in various places [12:33] cdecl [12:33] false+ [12:34] cell-binutils [12:36] wonders what that is [12:36] guess needs to be checked [12:36] various hits ... not obvious what is used where and how [12:36] hmm. where is that? [12:36] i cant even find the source [12:36] !info cell-binutils [12:37] thats for PS3 [12:37] asac: Package cell-binutils does not exist in karmic [12:37] nothing for arm anyway [12:37] !source cell-binutils [12:37] asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:37] ogra: there are files name "arm" in the source at least [12:37] but ok [12:37] if you say its ps3 then its ok [12:37] well, its for the cell CPU, but i bet derived from nowmal binutils [12:38] i guess same is true for other cell-* [12:38] like cell-gcc cell-gdb etc. [12:38] likely [12:38] ogra: ? [12:38] "info cell-gcc [12:38] !info cell-gcc [12:38] asac: Package cell-gcc does not exist in karmic [12:38] heh [12:38] !source cell-gcc [12:38] Factoid 'source cell-gcc' not found [12:38] damn bot ;) [12:38] i think the bot only knows x86 anyway [12:38] !apt cell-gcc [12:38] Factoid 'apt cell-gcc' not found [12:38] !info uboot-imx [12:38] ogra: Package uboot-imx does not exist in karmic [12:38] see [12:38] !madison cell-gcc [12:38] asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:38] oh, karmic [12:39] !info redboot-imx [12:39] ogra: Package redboot-imx does not exist in karmic [12:39] !info uboot-imx lucid [12:39] right, there you go [12:39] asac: Package uboot-imx does not exist in lucid [12:39] isnt there a version= [12:39] in the binary? [12:39] i think it just knows binaries [12:39] not for the source package [12:39] ah [12:39] !info uboot-imx51-to3 [12:39] !info uboot-imx51-to3 lucid [12:39] asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in karmic [12:39] asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in lucid [12:39] ok [12:39] ubot4: please tell your owner to improve you. thx [12:39] asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:40] heh [12:40] ok marked those as PS3 [12:40] cpqarrayd [12:40] !info cpqarrayd [12:40] asac: cpqarrayd (source: cpqarrayd): monitoring tool for HP (Compaq) SmartArray controllers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-1 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB [12:40] aha [12:40] ;) [12:41] hmm. that one has parts of the kernel tree in the debian/ directory :( [12:41] cool ! [12:41] bah [12:41] we should that more often ! [12:42] is that normal? [12:42] definately not [12:42] ... sorry, distracted ... [12:42] for that specific package probably ... [12:42] no problem ;) ... we did some bot training ;) [12:42] it might need headers that the kernel doesnt ship by default or some such [12:43] thats why all the .S files are in there? [12:43] I'm pretty sure cell-{gcc,binutils,etc.} will be Cell arch specific tools packages; punt those to doko? [12:43] if he even cares [12:43] grep cpqarrayd * | pastebinit [12:43] http://pastebin.com/f1f093e3a [12:43] not sure the sell port is still alive [12:43] dmart: i marked those as PS3 only for now [12:43] *cell [12:43] OK [12:43] thats what ogra said [12:43] aka nothing to do [12:44] wow, thats ugly [12:44] ok saying that cpqarrayd needs to be checked ... has kernel tree in debian/ [12:44] !info ctypes [12:44] asac: Package ctypes does not exist in karmic [12:44] grep ctypes * | pastebinit [12:44] http://pastebin.com/f15603dcf [12:45] needs investigation i would say ... [12:45] uses call_reg macro so might be good for mov [12:46] dmart: the ldr parts are a false-+ for that? [12:47] see paste above [12:47] ok next ... [12:47] grep cxxtools * | pastebinit [12:47] http://pastebin.com/f281dc3f0 [12:48] seems to use atomics [12:48] ctypes - that looks like x87 assembler, so probaby not relevant. The mov pc, lr stuff seems to be in an embedded libffi, so can we link those two up? [12:49] dmart: so i will comment that hits are probably libffi dupes [12:49] ok. [12:49] ok dd is false-+ [12:49] ddd [12:49] cxxtools - I agree [12:50] ddd - agreed [12:50] deal.ii seems to be atomics again [12:50] deal.ii - agreed [12:50] desmume [12:50] hmm. disassembler [12:50] migt be right. [12:51] weird, guess we don't care about that [12:51] yes [12:51] dietlibc [12:51] desmume - Nintendo DS emulator, apparently [12:52] dietlibc - generally looks like it needs some porting (atomics, low-level asm) [12:52] ack [12:53] disktype [12:53] amiga ;) [12:53] false+ [12:53] yep [12:53] dosbox [12:53] surely false-+... checking... [12:53] disasm again [12:53] e3 [12:54] great package name ;) [12:54] grep e3- * | pastebinit [12:54] http://pastebin.com/feafed1 [12:54] what's this package? [12:54] checkig [12:54] dmart: some arm eabi support was added to dietlibc but I still didnt manage to get it to compile [12:54] !info r3 [12:54] asac: Package r3 does not exist in karmic [12:54] !info e3 [12:54] asac: e3 (source: e3): A very small editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.71-1 (karmic), package size 37 kB, installed size 120 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64) [12:55] hmm ... seems not relevant [12:55] (not supported arch) [12:55] ecl [12:55] Weird that there is ARM code in there... it looks like someone tried to support it... [12:56] dupe of libatomic-ops i guess [12:56] yeah [12:56] but given what the bot said, the debian maintainer has explicitly marked it for just that arch? [12:56] those archs [12:56] available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64) [12:57] okadded to comment that arm code exists [12:57] and someone might want to finish ;) [12:57] suihkulokki: ftbfs just for lucid, or generally? [12:57] asac: ok [12:57] so ok ... i said that ecl depends on libatomic-ops (which we have in main i think) [12:58] hmm ... and gmp ;) [12:58] Yes, those both look like dupes, can we link them? [12:59] yes [12:59] I expect we can dismiss the emacs packages (emacs23 in main was false-+) [12:59] well. i added that as comment [12:59] so i can add a task to the other bugs [12:59] yes [12:59] dmart: debian :) [12:59] (emacs) [13:00] suihkulokki: so we can judge dietlibc as not Ubuntu-ready then? (Ubuntu is EABI) [13:00] !info etherboot [13:00] asac: etherboot (source: etherboot): Bootstrapping for various network adapters. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.4.3+dfsg-0.2ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 20515 kB, installed size 30644 kB [13:00] dfsg/src/arch/armnommu/core/start.S: [13:00] dmart, yeah, dietlibc is dead for ARM. There are patches to make it EABI complient, but upstream was stalled last I checked. [13:01] NCommander, suihkulokki: I guess we don't have specific concerns for Thumb-2 right now then [13:01] etherboot - bootloader, so we can probably ignore this one [13:01] ok ... i add acomment [13:01] dmart: unless you want to work on it.. [13:01] (to dietlibc) [13:02] falconpl [13:02] !info falconpl [13:02] asac: falconpl (source: falconpl): The Falcon P. L. - command line tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 93 kB, installed size 252 kB [13:02] suihkulokki: I'll see whether anyone else on my side knows about it :) [13:02] false-+ [13:02] faumachine [13:02] !info faumachine [13:02] asac: faumachine (source: faumachine): Virtual machine running in user mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090512-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4368 kB [13:02] false positive too [13:03] !info ffcall [13:03] asac: Package ffcall does not exist in karmic [13:03] http://pastebin.com/fe0b29f1 [13:03] faumachine - the match appears to be part of a comment, so OK [13:03] needs to be checked for mov's i guess [13:04] Yes; doesn't look T2-compatible right now [13:04] ffmpeg-php -> false-+ [13:04] fpc [13:04] mov and swp [13:04] !info fpc [13:04] dmart: fpc (source: fpc): Free Pascal Compiler - Meta Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3 (karmic), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for all i386 powerpc sparc amd64 arm) [13:05] Hmmm, I guess that needs looking at [13:05] yes. noted as mov and swp porting ) [13:05] !info freesci [13:05] dmart: freesci (source: freesci): a portable interpreter for SCI games like Space Quest 3. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-3 (karmic), package size 595 kB, installed size 1312 kB [13:05] onh [13:06] asac, fpc is going to be painful to port [13:06] * NCommander did some looking at it [13:06] freesci needs to be looked at [13:06] not sure if that applies [13:06] NCommander: looked into fpc 2.4 too ? [13:06] freesci - agreed [13:06] NCommander: right. its universe, so it comes last :) [13:06] fte -> false- [13:06] + [13:07] gamera [13:07] suihkulokki, nope [13:07] false-+, not arm asm [13:07] gamera - false-+ (x86 asm) [13:08] gauche-c-wrapper - embedded libffi? (same implications as ctypes) [13:08] yes [13:08] has macro ... might be safe [13:08] gcc-4.x -> doko (do we know which ones are actually in use to build stuff in universe?) [13:09] ok gcc stuff is already dealt elsewhere ... yes [13:09] gcj is next that doesnt have a comment [13:09] guess its doko too [13:09] gauche-c-wrapper - yes, looks like a simple review [13:09] gcj is gcc [13:09] gcl [13:09] so doko again [13:09] yes [13:09] marked gcj for doko [13:09] !gcl [13:09] Factoid 'gcl' not found [13:09] !info gcl [13:09] asac: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB [13:10] gcl is evil in several ways [13:10] It has an embedded copy of binutils and gcc :-/ [13:10] hmm. plenty of stuff i guess [13:10] ok so [13:10] grep gcl- * | grep -v binutils [13:10] search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/invert_limb.asm: add r2, pc, #invtab-.-8 [13:10] gcl - just embedded binutils, or is there anything else? [13:10] search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/udiv.asm: mov pc, lr [13:11] the rest should be covered by binutils [13:11] embedded gmp3 might be the same as gmp? [13:11] Probably, looking at our previous review [13:11] hmm [13:11] asac, I recommend you check the size of gcl's diff.gz if you want to see why I think gcl is crack [13:12] !info gcl [13:12] dmart: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB [13:12] !info gclcvs [13:12] asac: gclcvs (source: gclcvs): GNU Common Lisp compiler, CVS snapshot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-64 (karmic), package size 48061 kB, installed size 175136 kB [13:12] ugh [13:12] ;) [13:12] lol [13:12] anyway, it looks to me like the hits are in imported packages [13:12] NCommander: i didnt say that gcl isnt crack ;) ... i dont know the code [13:13] binutils again etc. [13:13] damn [13:13] same as gcl [13:13] !info gdal [13:13] asac: Package gdal does not exist in karmic [13:13] ok, needs a look in principle, but the problems are probably answered by addressing gmp and binutils (binutils may already be done anyway, depending on the age of the snapshot) [13:13] x86 assembbler [13:14] For tools packages in general, we should try to find out if they're used to build anything [13:14] hmm. good point [13:16] Can we tag such packages with a magic word, or collect them somewhere? Sounds like someone could do a 1-pass review for build-deps later [13:17] not sure ... added that as a comment [13:17] we can decide when filing that bug [13:17] etc. [13:17] gdal - "Geospatial Data Abstraction Library" [13:17] thats x86 asm [13:17] !gdb-avr [13:17] Factoid 'gdb-avr' not found [13:18] hmm. some disasm [13:18] gdal - agreed [13:18] guess is related to gdb [13:18] will put that on doko plate [13:18] I guess it's gdb for the avr arch [13:18] ? [13:18] hmm [13:18] gdm-m68blah similarly [13:19] there is arm code inside the -avr [13:19] not sure its because its a full copy of something [13:19] ok lets treat that as arch dependent [13:19] That's probably just be a binutils dump [13:19] geshi [13:19] !info geshi [13:19] asac: Package geshi does not exist in karmic [13:19] false-+ [13:19] php code [13:20] "generic syntax highlighter" [13:20] agreed [13:20] !info ghdl [13:20] asac: ghdl (source: ghdl): VHDL compiler/simulator using GCC technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.27+svn110+gcc4.3.3+dfsg-1 (karmic), package size 11429 kB, installed size 32804 kB [13:20] hmm. gcc copy [13:20] needs to be checked i guess [13:20] esp. because its 4.3.3 [13:20] ->doko? [13:21] lets say its doko ... yes. marked [13:21] !gimp-gap [13:21] Factoid 'gimp-gap' not found [13:21] !info gimp-gap [13:21] asac: gimp-gap (source: gimp-gap): The GIMP Animation Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2526 kB, installed size 7896 kB [13:21] false-+ [13:21] yes [13:21] !info gnat-4.3 [13:21] asac: gnat-4.3 (source: gnat-4.3): The GNU Ada compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 12284 kB, installed size 55668 kB [13:21] gnat-3.4 -> doko [13:21] i think we already have gnat [13:21] yes [13:22] I think it comes out of the GCC tree anyway [13:22] !info gnu-smalltalk [13:22] asac: gnu-smalltalk (source: gnu-smalltalk): GNU Smalltalk interpreter and image. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-2 (karmic), package size 641 kB, installed size 2208 kB [13:22] uses call_reg macro [13:22] libffi dupe again [13:22] probably ok but needs verified [13:22] yeah [13:22] !info gnuplot [13:22] asac: gnuplot (source: gnuplot): A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.5-2 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB [13:23] os2 ;) [13:23] false-+ [13:23] !info google-perftools [13:23] asac: Package google-perftools does not exist in karmic [13:23] hmm linux syscall [13:24] might need a look [13:24] my guess is that it may not be critical [13:24] yes [13:25] !info gromacs [13:25] asac: gromacs (source: gromacs): Molecular dynamics simulator, with building and analysis tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.5-4 (karmic), package size 3684 kB, installed size 13188 kB [13:25] false-+ [13:25] false [13:25] y [13:25] ok guess gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is dealt by ffmpeg [13:25] probably... is that a separate source package? [13:25] hmm. maybe not [13:26] seems so [13:26] suihkulokki, i get a lot of "unsupported syscall 335" in recent qemu-arm-static, that appears to be utrace, any idea about an existing fix ? [13:26] embedded ffmpeg - someone should check it. It may be one of those cases where the upstream project embeds a lib but we use the installed one (ie from the ffmpeg source package) [13:27] gxemul - emulator - false-+ [13:27] yes [13:28] helix-player - a mov pc, lr; and some swp which might need porting [13:28] helix-player -> uses atomics [13:28] yes [13:28] hol88 [13:28] !info hol88 [13:28] asac: hol88 (source: hol88): Higher Order Logic, system image. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02.19940316-8 (karmic), package size 9530 kB, installed size 44532 kB [13:28] scary [13:28] false [13:28] + [13:28] yes [13:28] !info ht [13:28] asac: ht (source: ht): Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.17-1 (karmic), package size 619 kB, installed size 1668 kB [13:29] arm-dis [13:29] looks like a disassembler [13:29] seems to not apply [13:29] hurd - also scary :P has this been ported to arm at all? [13:29] !info hurd [13:29] asac: Package hurd does not exist in karmic [13:30] heh [13:30] thats out [13:30] doesnt apply ;) [13:30] !info imview [13:30] asac: imview (source: imview): Image viewing and analysis application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.9c-4ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 608 kB, installed size 1560 kB [13:30] hurd - guess not (or someone else's problem) [13:30] false [13:31] (imview) [13:31] yes [13:31] !info insight [13:31] asac: insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-10.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1804 kB, installed size 5284 kB [13:31] hmm [13:31] smells like something was copied ;) [13:31] i saw the sim/testsuite at least ;) [13:32] also ./insight-6.7.1.dfsg.1/bfd/elf32-arm.c: [13:32] thats some toolchain stuff? [13:32] embedded gdb, bfd and stuff ... yeah, bfd comes from binutils [13:32] ogra: thats pselect6, feel free to implement :) [13:32] one for doko? I don't know what the /sim/ stuff is or how must we care [13:33] suihkulokki, ogra: was pselect6 implemented for arm yet? [13:34] asac: insighttoolkit - false-+ (x86 asm) [13:34]