[00:41] <rd> hello
[00:41] <rd> does any one know where there is some instructions on how to install ubuntu arm on n800?
[08:31] <neure> hi
[08:31] <neure> is asm("bkpt"); a good way to cause breakpoint in code?
[10:59] <asac> o/
[10:59] <asac> cant believe that my auto joining works again ;)
[10:59] <asac> even on +R channels
[10:59] <asac> seems i sent "ident" to nickserv which it doesnt like anymore
[11:05] <ogra> well, dont reconnect in a way that you get an underscore on your nick
[11:05] <ogra> thats overly annoying
[12:07] <asac> attached filtered debdiff for gvfs update (re bug 512959)
[12:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512959 in gvfs "nautilus assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: nautilus terminated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512959
[12:19] <dmart> asac: Hi there; unfortunately I had an overrunning meeting, but I'm available now.
[12:19] <asac> dmart: hi
[12:19] <asac> cool
[12:19] <asac> so i started to file bugs ;)
[12:19] <asac> for main
[12:19] <asac> added the numbers to the status col
[12:19] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList
[12:20] <asac> i am done to gmp
[12:20] <dmart> Looks good
[12:20]  * asac wonders if there is a shorthand syntax for lp bugs in the wiki
[12:20] <asac> i didnt subscribe you to those bugs as you are member of ubuntu-armel i figured
[12:22] <ogra> asac, i think there is, but i cant remember the syntax, i know persia usually does :)
[12:23] <asac> universe are so many packages :(
[12:23] <dmart> dunno... I shoved it though sed... refresh the page
[12:23] <ogra> yeah
[12:23] <asac> anyway. getting the logs now
[12:23] <dmart> I was seeing a lot of false-positives, so it may be relatively quick
[12:23] <asac> great
[12:25] <asac> ok got the logs ... (thx wiki) ... now geting a new coffee and then we can lift off ;)
[12:31] <asac> ok after not visiting that page lets get started ;)
[12:32] <asac> cacao
[12:32] <asac> needs a check (by doko)
[12:33] <dmart> Yes.  I'm not sure why this appears separately from cacao-source; I guess it's basically the same issues
[12:33] <asac> uses atomics and mov in various places
[12:33] <asac> cdecl
[12:33] <asac> false+
[12:34] <asac> cell-binutils
[12:36] <asac> wonders what that is
[12:36] <asac> guess needs to be checked
[12:36] <asac> various hits ... not obvious what is used where and how
[12:36] <asac> hmm. where is that?
[12:36] <asac> i cant even find the source
[12:36] <asac> !info cell-binutils
[12:37] <ogra> thats for PS3
[12:37] <ubot4> asac: Package cell-binutils does not exist in karmic
[12:37] <ogra> nothing for arm anyway
[12:37] <asac> !source cell-binutils
[12:37] <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:37] <asac> ogra: there are files name "arm" in the source at least
[12:37] <asac> but ok
[12:37] <asac> if you say its ps3 then its ok
[12:37] <ogra> well, its for the cell CPU, but i bet derived from nowmal binutils
[12:38] <asac> i guess same is true for other cell-*
[12:38] <asac> like cell-gcc cell-gdb etc.
[12:38] <ogra> likely
[12:38] <asac> ogra: ?
[12:38] <asac> "info cell-gcc
[12:38] <asac> !info cell-gcc
[12:38] <ubot4> asac: Package cell-gcc does not exist in karmic
[12:38] <ogra> heh
[12:38] <asac> !source cell-gcc
[12:38] <ubot4> Factoid 'source cell-gcc' not found
[12:38] <asac> damn bot ;)
[12:38] <ogra> i think the bot only knows x86 anyway
[12:38] <asac> !apt cell-gcc
[12:38] <ubot4> Factoid 'apt cell-gcc' not found
[12:38] <ogra> !info uboot-imx
[12:38] <ubot4> ogra: Package uboot-imx does not exist in karmic
[12:38] <ogra> see
[12:38] <asac> !madison cell-gcc
[12:38] <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:38] <ogra> oh, karmic
[12:39] <ogra> !info redboot-imx
[12:39] <ubot4> ogra: Package redboot-imx does not exist in karmic
[12:39] <asac> !info uboot-imx lucid
[12:39] <ogra> right, there you go
[12:39] <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx does not exist in lucid
[12:39] <asac> isnt there a version=
[12:39] <asac> in the binary?
[12:39] <asac> i think it just knows binaries
[12:39] <ogra> not for the source package
[12:39] <ogra> ah
[12:39] <asac> !info uboot-imx51-to3
[12:39] <asac> !info uboot-imx51-to3 lucid
[12:39] <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in karmic
[12:39] <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in lucid
[12:39] <asac> ok
[12:39] <asac> ubot4: please tell your owner to improve you. thx
[12:39] <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:40] <ogra> heh
[12:40] <asac> ok marked those as PS3
[12:40] <asac> cpqarrayd
[12:40] <asac> !info cpqarrayd
[12:40] <ubot4> asac: cpqarrayd (source: cpqarrayd): monitoring tool for HP (Compaq) SmartArray controllers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-1 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[12:40] <asac> aha
[12:40] <asac> ;)
[12:41] <asac> hmm. that one has parts of the kernel tree in the debian/ directory :(
[12:41] <ogra> cool !
[12:41] <asac> bah
[12:41] <ogra> we should that more often !
[12:42] <asac> is that normal?
[12:42] <ogra> definately not
[12:42] <dmart> ... sorry, distracted ...
[12:42] <ogra> for that specific package probably ...
[12:42] <asac> no problem ;) ... we did some bot training ;)
[12:42] <ogra> it might need headers that the kernel doesnt ship by default or some such
[12:43] <asac> thats why all the .S files are in there?
[12:43] <dmart> I'm pretty sure cell-{gcc,binutils,etc.} will be Cell arch specific tools packages; punt those to doko?
[12:43] <ogra> if he even cares
[12:43] <asac> grep cpqarrayd * | pastebinit
[12:43] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f1f093e3a
[12:43] <ogra> not sure the sell port is still alive
[12:43] <asac> dmart: i marked those as PS3 only for now
[12:43] <ogra> *cell
[12:43] <dmart> OK
[12:43] <asac> thats what ogra said
[12:43] <asac> aka nothing to do
[12:44] <ogra> wow, thats ugly
[12:44] <asac> ok saying that cpqarrayd needs to be checked ... has kernel tree in debian/
[12:44] <asac> !info ctypes
[12:44] <ubot4> asac: Package ctypes does not exist in karmic
[12:44] <asac> grep ctypes * | pastebinit
[12:44] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f15603dcf
[12:45] <asac> needs investigation i would say ...
[12:45] <asac> uses call_reg macro so might be good for mov
[12:46] <asac> dmart: the ldr parts are a false-+ for that?
[12:47] <asac> see paste above
[12:47] <asac> ok next ...
[12:47] <asac> grep cxxtools * | pastebinit
[12:47] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f281dc3f0
[12:48] <asac> seems to use atomics
[12:48] <dmart> ctypes - that looks like x87 assembler, so probaby not relevant.  The mov pc, lr stuff seems to be in an embedded libffi, so can we link those two up?
[12:49] <asac> dmart: so i will comment that hits are probably libffi dupes
[12:49] <dmart> ok.
[12:49] <asac> ok dd is false-+
[12:49] <asac> ddd
[12:49] <dmart> cxxtools - I agree
[12:50] <dmart> ddd - agreed
[12:50] <asac> deal.ii seems to be atomics again
[12:50] <dmart> deal.ii - agreed
[12:50] <asac> desmume
[12:50] <asac> hmm. disassembler
[12:50] <asac> migt be right.
[12:51] <dmart> weird, guess we don't care about that
[12:51] <asac> yes
[12:51] <asac> dietlibc
[12:51] <dmart> desmume - Nintendo DS emulator, apparently
[12:52] <dmart> dietlibc - generally looks like it needs some porting (atomics, low-level asm)
[12:52] <asac> ack
[12:53] <asac> disktype
[12:53] <asac> amiga ;)
[12:53] <asac> false+
[12:53] <dmart> yep
[12:53] <asac> dosbox
[12:53] <dmart> surely false-+... checking...
[12:53] <asac> disasm again
[12:53] <asac> e3
[12:54] <asac> great package name ;)
[12:54] <asac> grep e3- * | pastebinit
[12:54] <asac> http://pastebin.com/feafed1
[12:54] <dmart> what's this package?
[12:54] <asac> checkig
[12:54] <suihkulokki> dmart: some arm eabi support was added to dietlibc but I still didnt manage to get it to compile
[12:54] <asac> !info r3
[12:54] <ubot4> asac: Package r3 does not exist in karmic
[12:54] <asac> !info e3
[12:54] <ubot4> asac: e3 (source: e3): A very small editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.71-1 (karmic), package size 37 kB, installed size 120 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:55] <asac> hmm ... seems not relevant
[12:55] <asac> (not supported arch)
[12:55] <asac> ecl
[12:55] <dmart> Weird that there is ARM code in there... it looks like someone tried to support it...
[12:56] <asac> dupe of libatomic-ops i guess
[12:56] <asac> yeah
[12:56] <asac> but given what the bot said, the debian maintainer has explicitly marked it for just that arch?
[12:56] <asac> those archs
[12:56] <asac>                available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:57] <asac> okadded to comment that arm code exists
[12:57] <asac> and someone might want to finish ;)
[12:57] <dmart> suihkulokki: ftbfs just for lucid, or generally?
[12:57] <dmart> asac: ok
[12:57] <asac> so ok ... i said that ecl depends on libatomic-ops (which we have in main i think)
[12:58] <asac> hmm ... and gmp ;)
[12:58] <dmart> Yes, those both look like dupes, can we link them?
[12:59] <asac> yes
[12:59] <dmart> I expect we can dismiss the emacs packages (emacs23 in main was false-+)
[12:59] <asac> well. i added that as comment
[12:59] <asac> so i can add a task to the other bugs
[12:59] <asac> yes
[12:59] <suihkulokki> dmart: debian :)
[12:59] <asac> (emacs)
[13:00] <dmart> suihkulokki: so we can judge dietlibc as not Ubuntu-ready then? (Ubuntu is EABI)
[13:00] <asac> !info etherboot
[13:00] <ubot4> asac: etherboot (source: etherboot): Bootstrapping for various network adapters. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.4.3+dfsg-0.2ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 20515 kB, installed size 30644 kB
[13:00] <asac> dfsg/src/arch/armnommu/core/start.S:
[13:00] <NCommander> dmart, yeah, dietlibc is dead for ARM. There are patches to make it EABI complient, but upstream was stalled last I checked.
[13:01] <dmart> NCommander, suihkulokki: I guess we don't have specific concerns for Thumb-2 right now then
[13:01] <dmart> etherboot - bootloader, so we can probably ignore this one
[13:01] <asac> ok ... i add acomment
[13:01] <suihkulokki> dmart: unless you want to work on it..
[13:01] <asac> (to dietlibc)
[13:02] <asac> falconpl
[13:02] <asac> !info falconpl
[13:02] <ubot4> asac: falconpl (source: falconpl): The Falcon P. L. - command line tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 93 kB, installed size 252 kB
[13:02] <dmart> suihkulokki: I'll see whether anyone else on my side knows about it :)
[13:02] <asac> false-+
[13:02] <asac> faumachine
[13:02] <asac> !info faumachine
[13:02] <ubot4> asac: faumachine (source: faumachine): Virtual machine running in user mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090512-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4368 kB
[13:02] <asac> false positive too
[13:03] <asac> !info ffcall
[13:03] <ubot4> asac: Package ffcall does not exist in karmic
[13:03] <asac> http://pastebin.com/fe0b29f1
[13:03] <dmart> faumachine - the match appears to be part of a comment, so OK
[13:03] <asac> needs to be checked for mov's i guess
[13:04] <dmart> Yes; doesn't look T2-compatible right now
[13:04] <asac> ffmpeg-php -> false-+
[13:04] <asac> fpc
[13:04] <asac> mov and swp
[13:04] <dmart> !info fpc
[13:04] <ubot4> dmart: fpc (source: fpc): Free Pascal Compiler - Meta Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3 (karmic), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for all i386 powerpc sparc amd64 arm)
[13:05] <dmart> Hmmm, I guess that needs looking at
[13:05] <asac> yes. noted as mov and swp porting )
[13:05] <dmart> !info freesci
[13:05] <ubot4> dmart: freesci (source: freesci): a portable interpreter for SCI games like Space Quest 3. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-3 (karmic), package size 595 kB, installed size 1312 kB
[13:05] <asac> onh
[13:06] <NCommander> asac, fpc is going to be painful to port
[13:06]  * NCommander did some looking at it
[13:06] <asac> freesci needs to be looked at
[13:06] <asac> not sure if that applies
[13:06] <suihkulokki> NCommander: looked into fpc 2.4 too ?
[13:06] <dmart> freesci - agreed
[13:06] <asac> NCommander: right. its universe, so it comes last :)
[13:06] <asac> fte -> false-
[13:06] <asac> +
[13:07] <asac> gamera
[13:07] <NCommander> suihkulokki, nope
[13:07] <asac> false-+, not arm asm
[13:07] <dmart> gamera - false-+ (x86 asm)
[13:08] <dmart> gauche-c-wrapper - embedded libffi?  (same implications as ctypes)
[13:08] <asac> yes
[13:08] <asac> has macro ... might be safe
[13:08] <dmart> gcc-4.x -> doko (do we know which ones are actually in use to build stuff in universe?)
[13:09] <asac> ok gcc stuff is already dealt elsewhere ... yes
[13:09] <asac> gcj is next that doesnt have a comment
[13:09] <asac> guess its doko too
[13:09] <dmart> gauche-c-wrapper - yes, looks like a simple review
[13:09] <dmart> gcj is gcc
[13:09] <asac> gcl
[13:09] <dmart> so doko again
[13:09] <asac> yes
[13:09] <asac> marked gcj for doko
[13:09] <asac> !gcl
[13:09] <ubot4> Factoid 'gcl' not found
[13:09] <asac> !info gcl
[13:09] <ubot4> asac: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB
[13:10] <NCommander> gcl is evil in several ways
[13:10] <NCommander> It has an embedded copy of binutils and gcc :-/
[13:10] <asac> hmm. plenty of stuff i guess
[13:10] <asac> ok so
[13:10] <asac> grep gcl- * | grep -v binutils
[13:10] <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/invert_limb.asm:	add	r2, pc, #invtab-.-8
[13:10] <dmart> gcl - just embedded binutils, or is there anything else?
[13:10] <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/udiv.asm:	mov	pc, lr
[13:11] <asac> the rest should be covered by binutils
[13:11] <dmart> embedded gmp3 might be the same as gmp?
[13:11] <dmart> Probably, looking at our previous review
[13:11] <asac> hmm
[13:11] <NCommander> asac, I recommend you check the size of gcl's diff.gz if you want to see why I think gcl is crack
[13:12] <dmart> !info gcl
[13:12] <ubot4> dmart: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB
[13:12] <asac> !info gclcvs
[13:12] <ubot4> asac: gclcvs (source: gclcvs): GNU Common Lisp compiler, CVS snapshot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-64 (karmic), package size 48061 kB, installed size 175136 kB
[13:12] <dmart> ugh
[13:12] <dmart> ;)
[13:12] <asac> lol
[13:12] <dmart> anyway, it looks to me like the hits are in imported packages
[13:12] <asac> NCommander: i didnt say that gcl isnt crack ;) ... i dont know the code
[13:13] <asac> binutils again etc.
[13:13] <asac> damn
[13:13] <asac> same as gcl
[13:13] <asac> !info gdal
[13:13] <ubot4> asac: Package gdal does not exist in karmic
[13:13] <dmart> ok, needs a look in principle, but the problems are probably answered by addressing gmp and binutils (binutils may already be done anyway, depending on the age of the snapshot)
[13:13] <asac> x86 assembbler
[13:14] <dmart> For tools packages in general, we should try to find out if they're used to build anything
[13:14] <asac> hmm. good point
[13:16] <dmart> Can we tag such packages with a magic word, or collect them somewhere?  Sounds like someone could do a 1-pass review for build-deps later
[13:17] <asac> not sure ... added that as a comment
[13:17] <asac> we can decide when filing that bug
[13:17] <asac> etc.
[13:17] <dmart> gdal - "Geospatial Data Abstraction Library"
[13:17] <asac> thats x86 asm
[13:17] <asac> !gdb-avr
[13:17] <ubot4> Factoid 'gdb-avr' not found
[13:18] <asac> hmm. some disasm
[13:18] <dmart> gdal - agreed
[13:18] <asac> guess is related to gdb
[13:18] <asac> will put that on doko plate
[13:18] <dmart> I guess it's gdb for the avr arch
[13:18] <dmart> ?
[13:18] <asac> hmm
[13:18] <dmart> gdm-m68blah similarly
[13:19] <asac> there is arm code inside the -avr
[13:19] <asac> not sure its because its a full copy of something
[13:19] <asac> ok lets treat that as arch dependent
[13:19] <dmart> That's probably just be a binutils dump
[13:19] <asac> geshi
[13:19] <asac> !info geshi
[13:19] <ubot4> asac: Package geshi does not exist in karmic
[13:19] <asac> false-+
[13:19] <asac> php code
[13:20] <dmart> "generic syntax highlighter"
[13:20] <dmart> agreed
[13:20] <asac> !info ghdl
[13:20] <ubot4> asac: ghdl (source: ghdl): VHDL compiler/simulator using GCC technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.27+svn110+gcc4.3.3+dfsg-1 (karmic), package size 11429 kB, installed size 32804 kB
[13:20] <asac> hmm. gcc copy
[13:20] <asac> needs to be checked i guess
[13:20] <asac> esp. because its 4.3.3
[13:20] <dmart> ->doko?
[13:21] <asac> lets say its doko ... yes. marked
[13:21] <asac> !gimp-gap
[13:21] <ubot4> Factoid 'gimp-gap' not found
[13:21] <asac> !info gimp-gap
[13:21] <ubot4> asac: gimp-gap (source: gimp-gap): The GIMP Animation Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2526 kB, installed size 7896 kB
[13:21] <asac> false-+
[13:21] <dmart> yes
[13:21] <asac> !info gnat-4.3
[13:21] <ubot4> asac: gnat-4.3 (source: gnat-4.3): The GNU Ada compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 12284 kB, installed size 55668 kB
[13:21] <dmart> gnat-3.4 -> doko
[13:21] <asac> i think we already have gnat
[13:21] <asac> yes
[13:22] <dmart> I think it comes out of the GCC tree anyway
[13:22] <asac> !info gnu-smalltalk
[13:22] <ubot4> asac: gnu-smalltalk (source: gnu-smalltalk): GNU Smalltalk interpreter and image. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-2 (karmic), package size 641 kB, installed size 2208 kB
[13:22] <asac> uses call_reg macro
[13:22] <dmart> libffi dupe again
[13:22] <asac> probably ok but needs verified
[13:22] <asac> yeah
[13:22] <asac> !info gnuplot
[13:22] <ubot4> asac: gnuplot (source: gnuplot): A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.5-2 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[13:23] <asac> os2 ;)
[13:23] <asac> false-+
[13:23] <asac> !info google-perftools
[13:23] <ubot4> asac: Package google-perftools does not exist in karmic
[13:23] <asac> hmm linux syscall
[13:24] <dmart> might need a look
[13:24] <dmart> my guess is that it may not be critical
[13:24] <asac> yes
[13:25] <asac> !info gromacs
[13:25] <ubot4> asac: gromacs (source: gromacs): Molecular dynamics simulator, with building and analysis tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.5-4 (karmic), package size 3684 kB, installed size 13188 kB
[13:25] <dmart> false-+
[13:25] <asac> false
[13:25] <asac> y
[13:25] <asac> ok guess gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is dealt by ffmpeg
[13:25] <dmart> probably... is that a separate source package?
[13:25] <asac> hmm. maybe not
[13:26] <asac> seems so
[13:26] <ogra> suihkulokki, i get a lot of "unsupported syscall 335" in recent qemu-arm-static, that appears to be utrace, any idea about an existing fix ?
[13:26] <dmart> embedded ffmpeg - someone should check it.  It may be one of those cases where the upstream project embeds a lib but we use the installed one (ie from the ffmpeg source package)
[13:27] <dmart> gxemul - emulator - false-+
[13:27] <asac> yes
[13:28] <dmart> helix-player - a mov pc, lr; and some swp which might need porting
[13:28] <asac> helix-player -> uses atomics
[13:28] <asac> yes
[13:28] <asac> hol88
[13:28] <asac> !info hol88
[13:28] <ubot4> asac: hol88 (source: hol88): Higher Order Logic, system image. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02.19940316-8 (karmic), package size 9530 kB, installed size 44532 kB
[13:28] <dmart> scary
[13:28] <asac> false
[13:28] <asac> +
[13:28] <dmart> yes
[13:28] <asac> !info ht
[13:28] <ubot4> asac: ht (source: ht): Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.17-1 (karmic), package size 619 kB, installed size 1668 kB
[13:29] <asac> arm-dis
[13:29] <dmart> looks like a disassembler
[13:29] <asac> seems to not apply
[13:29] <dmart> hurd - also scary :P  has this been ported to arm at all?
[13:29] <asac> !info hurd
[13:29] <ubot4> asac: Package hurd does not exist in karmic
[13:30] <asac> heh
[13:30] <asac> thats out
[13:30] <asac> doesnt apply ;)
[13:30] <asac> !info imview
[13:30] <ubot4> asac: imview (source: imview): Image viewing and analysis application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.9c-4ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 608 kB, installed size 1560 kB
[13:30] <dmart> hurd - guess not (or someone else's problem)
[13:30] <asac> false
[13:31] <asac> (imview)
[13:31] <dmart> yes
[13:31] <asac> !info insight
[13:31] <ubot4> asac: insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-10.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1804 kB, installed size 5284 kB
[13:31] <asac> hmm
[13:31] <asac> smells like something was copied ;)
[13:31] <asac> i saw the sim/testsuite at least ;)
[13:32] <asac> also ./insight-6.7.1.dfsg.1/bfd/elf32-arm.c:
[13:32] <asac> thats some toolchain stuff?
[13:32] <dmart> embedded gdb, bfd and stuff ... yeah, bfd comes from binutils
[13:32] <suihkulokki> ogra: thats pselect6, feel free to implement :)
[13:32] <dmart> one for doko?  I don't know what the /sim/ stuff is or how must we care
[13:33] <dmart> suihkulokki, ogra: was pselect6 implemented for arm yet?
[13:34] <dmart> asac: insighttoolkit - false-+ (x86 asm)
[13:34] <dmart> ironpython - false-+
[13:35] <dmart> jamvm - swp-based atomics and native calls with mov pc, lr
[13:36]  * dmart grabs a sandwich
[13:36]  * asac too
[13:37] <ogra> i doubt pselect was implemented
[13:37] <ogra> well pselect6
[13:38] <asac> ok did a checkpoint save on wiki
[13:38] <asac> getting some bread too
[13:39]  * NCommander grumbles
[13:45] <asac> ok seems we did a big chunk ;)
[13:45] <asac> still only half way through :(
[13:45] <ogra> hmm
[13:45] <asac> kaya
[13:46]  * ogra doesnt get why he still sees qemu: Unsupported syscall: 242
[13:46] <asac> kino
[13:46] <asac> ogra: i dont get why it doesnt work at all for me ;)
[13:46] <asac> i am on lucid and plain lucid kerenel
[13:46] <ogra> according to linux-user/arm/syscall_nr.h thats supported now
[13:46] <asac> still get the binfmt problem :(
[13:46] <ogra> weird
[13:46] <ogra> works flawless here
[13:46] <ogra> even after the upgrade
[13:47] <ogra> can you try to run build-arm-choort standalone ?
[13:47] <asac> i will try to just use qemu-arm-static chroot manually
[13:47] <ogra> *chroot
[13:47] <asac> right. thats the idea
[13:47] <ogra> thats what i just did here
[13:47] <asac> ruinning
[13:47] <ogra> to find out if mono started to behave
[13:47] <ogra> but apparently its not
[13:48] <suihkulokki> ogra: that doesn't list supported syscalls. it lists syscall numbers.
[13:48] <ogra> oh, i thought they are only added there when someone implemented it actually
[13:48] <suihkulokki> read linux-user/syscall.c to find what is really supported
[13:48] <ogra> ok, that expleins it then
[13:49] <dmart> asac: did you get my comments up to jamwm?
[13:49] <ogra> i know there exists a patch for pselect and ppoll somewhere
[13:49] <asac> yes
[13:49] <dmart> ok
[13:49] <asac> dmart: i thought i saved that alradcy
[13:49] <ogra> but no idea if that was ever applied
[13:49] <asac> so lets continue
[13:49] <asac> kaya and kino ;)
[13:50] <dmart> I didn't read the scrollback very carefully...
[13:50] <asac> kaya false-+
[13:50] <dmart> jocaml?
[13:51] <dmart> jocaml - some assembler with mov pc stuff, probably needs a look
[13:51] <asac> yes
[13:51] <asac> thats what is already in there
[13:51] <asac> skipped it
[13:51] <dmart> oh yes
[13:51] <suihkulokki> and no, getaffinity will not help you get mono work in qemu linux-user if that is why you are after 242
[13:51] <asac> kino seems armv4l
[13:51] <asac> should be checked
[13:52] <dmart> cross-ref kino to ffmpeg - it's a embedded ffmpeg (may not be a problem if the system ffmpeg libs are used)
[13:52] <asac> hmm seems to be fffmpeg
[13:53] <asac> kompozer -> is a mess
[13:53] <asac> really old mozilla code
[13:53] <asac> dont think we can port that
[13:53] <asac> maybe it should finally get removed from archive
[13:53] <dmart> !info kompozer
[13:53] <ubot4> dmart: kompozer (source: kompozer): complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2 (karmic), package size 7328 kB, installed size 19580 kB
[13:53] <dmart> hmmm, maybe make a note, but otherwise not too important I guess
[13:54] <asac> yes
[13:54] <asac> done
[13:54] <asac> !info kvirc
[13:54] <ubot4> asac: kvirc (source: kvirc): KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.0~svn3240-1 (karmic), package size 2976 kB, installed size 9276 kB
[13:54] <dmart> kvirc - false-+
[13:54] <asac> ack
[13:55] <asac> !info libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl
[13:55] <ubot4> asac: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl (source: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl): Perl module wrapper for libgd - gd2 variant without XPM support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.39-2 (karmic), package size 216 kB, installed size 644 kB
[13:55] <asac> false
[13:55] <asac> +
[13:55] <dmart> agreed
[13:55] <asac> !info libgii
[13:55] <ubot4> asac: Package libgii does not exist in karmic
[13:55] <asac> atomics
[13:55] <asac> !info libnet-dri-perl
[13:55] <ubot4> asac: Package libnet-dri-perl does not exist in karmic
[13:55] <dmart> yes, may need a look
[13:55] <dmart> (libggi)
[13:55] <asac> false-+
[13:56] <asac> !info libopenspc
[13:56] <ubot4> asac: Package libopenspc does not exist in karmic
[13:56] <asac> other arch it seems
[13:56] <asac> !info libtk-img
[13:56] <ubot4> asac: libtk-img (source: libtk-img): Extended image format support for Tcl/Tk (runtime). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3-release-8 (karmic), package size 118 kB, installed size 464 kB
[13:56] <dmart> libopenspc - might be a snes music chip emulator lib iirc
[13:56] <asac> also other arch false-+
[13:57] <asac> yes, last two are other arch afaics
[13:57] <asac> !info libv8 ?
[13:57] <ubot4> asac: '?' is not a valid distribution: hardy, intrepid, jaunty, karmic, lucid
[13:57] <asac> !info libv8
[13:57] <ubot4> asac: Package libv8 does not exist in karmic
[13:57] <asac> how did that get in that list? isnt libv8 the v8 js engine of chromium?
[13:57] <asac> afaik thats only packaged outside of archive
[13:58] <asac> anyway, needs a check ... generates arm code with mov
[13:59] <asac> !info lifelines
[13:59] <ubot4> asac: lifelines (source: lifelines): text-based genealogy software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.61-1 (karmic), package size 967 kB, installed size 2392 kB
[13:59] <asac> false+
[13:59]  * dmart acks recent packages
[13:59] <asac> !info lightning-sunbird
[13:59] <ubot4> asac: Package lightning-sunbird does not exist in karmic
[13:59] <asac> ok that one is mozilla code base
[13:59] <asac> we will move to something based on 1.9.2 branch
[14:00] <asac> so should be ok once we have the thumb patch landed
[14:00] <asac> (otherwise we have the patch)
[14:00] <asac> so: needs bump to 1.9.2 codebase + thumb2 patch
[14:00] <dmart> I guess we should keep track of all these x has embedded y somehow
[14:01] <asac> yeah
[14:01] <dmart> linux-rt  - linux snapshow
[14:01] <asac> well. we open bugs and since we do it from top down we can add new tasks to the other bug
[14:01] <asac> yes, linux-rt -> dealt elsewhere?
[14:01] <dmart> agreed
[14:01] <asac>  not sure where ;)
[14:01] <asac> we can assign a bug to cooloney or someone to ack that
[14:02] <asac> !info llvm-gcc-4.2
[14:02] <ubot4> asac: llvm-gcc-4.2 (source: llvm-gcc-4.2): C/C++ front end for LLVM compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6~pre1-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 23726 kB, installed size 107388 kB
[14:02] <asac> doko gcc
[14:02] <asac> ?
[14:02] <dmart> I think this is llvm, not gcc; for main we just said to review; we can probably link those together
[14:02] <asac> ok
[14:03] <asac> !info ltp
[14:03] <ubot4> asac: ltp (source: ltp): The Linux Test Project test suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090531+dfsg-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 360 kB
[14:03] <asac> false-+
[14:03] <asac> !info lwp
[14:03] <ubot4> asac: Package lwp does not exist in karmic
[14:03] <asac> needes a check
[14:03] <asac> mov
[14:03] <asac> hmm
[14:03] <dmart> ltp - agreed
[14:04] <dmart> lwp - agreed (dunno what this is)
[14:04] <asac> !info lyx
[14:04] <ubot4> asac: lyx (source: lyx): Document Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 3093 kB, installed size 7924 kB
[14:04] <asac> atomics check
[14:04] <asac> esems to be boost
[14:04] <ogra> suihkulokki, hmm, there seems to be anold suse patch for 242 http://paste.ubuntu.com/364585/
[14:04] <asac> marking
[14:04] <ogra> *an old
[14:05] <dmart> asac: lyx - agreed
[14:05] <asac> !info mapivi
[14:05] <ubot4> asac: mapivi (source: mapivi): Photo viewer and organizer with emphasis on IPTC fields. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1 (karmic), package size 426 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[14:05] <asac> false-ü
[14:05] <dmart> yes
[14:05] <asac> !info mapserver
[14:05] <ubot4> asac: Package mapserver does not exist in karmic
[14:05] <asac> as well
[14:05] <asac> !info metacity-themes
[14:05] <ubot4> asac: metacity-themes (source: metacity-themes): Themes for the Gtk2 metacity window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11 (karmic), package size 384 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[14:05] <asac> dito
[14:06] <dmart> mapserver, metachtiy-themes - agreed
[14:06]  * asac fighting with wiki ;)
[14:07] <asac> ok
[14:07] <asac> !info mit-scheme
[14:07] <ubot4> asac: mit-scheme (source: mit-scheme): MIT/GNU Scheme development environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.7.90+20090107-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 6662 kB, installed size 18380 kB (Only available for i386)
[14:07] <dmart> mit-scheme - x86 asm for scheme compiler... false-+
[14:07] <asac> ack
[14:07] <asac> !info mlton
[14:07] <ubot4> asac: mlton (source: mlton): Optimizing compiler for Standard ML. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070826-1 (karmic), package size 10647 kB, installed size 47156 kB (Only available for amd64 hppa i386 powerpc sparc)
[14:07] <asac> same
[14:07] <dmart> looks like it
[14:07] <asac> !info mupen64plus
[14:07] <ubot4> asac: mupen64plus (source: mupen64plus): plugin-based Nintendo 64 emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5+dfsg1-7 (karmic), package size 1308 kB, installed size 4288 kB
[14:07] <asac> hope thats too ;)
[14:08] <asac> !info mysql-dfsg-5.0
[14:08] <ubot4> asac: Package mysql-dfsg-5.0 does not exist in karmic
[14:08] <dmart> mupen64plus - yes
[14:08] <asac> atomics ... do we already have a mysql one in main?
[14:08] <dmart> hmmm, I can't find it
[14:09] <dmart> guess that may need a look
[14:09] <dmart> !info netsurf
[14:09] <ubot4> dmart: netsurf (source: netsurf): Small portable web browser with CSS and Unicode support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2-1build1 (karmic), package size 416 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[14:09] <dmart> ...but the matches are in /riscos/, so I don't expect it applies for us
[14:10] <dmart> openbios-ppc - surely not relevant
[14:11] <asac> ok netsurf is false+ then with riscos
[14:11] <asac> !info openocd
[14:11] <ubot4> asac: openocd (source: openocd): Open on-chip JTAG debug solution for ARM and MIPS systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0+r2403-1 (karmic), package size 1882 kB, installed size 4960 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armel armeb hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m32r m68k mips mipsel netbsd-alpha netbsd-i386 powerpc sh sparc)
[14:11] <suihkulokki> ogra: which is buggy. and as I said, wont help with mono.
[14:11] <dmart> openocd - some kind of embedded hardware debugger?  Probably not relevant for us.
[14:11] <asac> interesting
[14:11] <asac> guess that needs a check
[14:11] <asac> hmm
[14:12] <dmart> maybe take a quick look, but my guess is that the asm doesn't run on the host
[14:12] <asac> i dont know how that is run. guess in worst case it can be built with -marm?
[14:12] <asac> hmm code be
[14:12] <asac> could
[14:12] <dmart> Hmmm, yes, I guess the code will get built by something.  Maybe you're expected to install cross tools packages or something.
[14:13] <asac> !info openser
[14:13] <ubot4> asac: openser (source: openser): very fast and configurable SIP proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3 (karmic), package size 1357 kB, installed size 3856 kB
[14:13] <asac> i like those "very, very" software ;)
[14:13] <asac> atomics candidate
[14:13] <asac> !info oprofile
[14:13] <ubot4> asac: oprofile (source: oprofile): system-wide profiler for Linux systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4+cvs20090629-2.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1365 kB, installed size 5152 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha hppa powerpc sparc amd64 arm armel mips mipsel s390 lpia)
[14:13] <dmart> openocd - Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8), libftdi1 (>= 0.17), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.4.0), libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12), dpkg (>= 1.15.4) | install-info (not very informative)
[14:13] <asac> false-+
[14:14] <dmart> oprofile seems to work (-ish) on lucid, though I do have to unload and reinitialise it between profiling runs.
[14:14] <asac> dmart: yeah. i marked openocd  package for manual review
[14:14] <asac> yeah. but there is no real code in the filter logs
[14:15] <asac> so i think its false-positive for this list
[14:15] <asac> !info osiris
[14:15] <ubot4> asac: osiris (source: osiris): network-wide system integrity monitor control interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.3-3 (karmic), package size 392 kB, installed size 916 kB
[14:15] <dmart> oprofile - agreed
[14:15] <asac> atomics ... db4.2 copy
[14:15] <asac>  dupe
[14:15] <dmart> yes
[14:15] <asac> !info palbart
[14:15] <ubot4> asac: palbart (source: palbart): An enhanced version of the PAL PDP8 assembler. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4-5 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[14:15] <asac> false-+
[14:16] <asac> paraview
[14:16] <asac> !info paraview
[14:16] <dmart> hmmm, 60-70% of the way through the list
[14:16] <ubot4> asac: paraview (source: paraview): Parallel Visualization Application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.4.0-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 43766 kB, installed size 154432 kB
[14:16] <asac> yes. we can stop soon ;=)
[14:16] <asac> paraview -> x86
[14:16] <dmart> :)
[14:16] <dmart> palbart - agreed
[14:16] <asac> !info parrot
[14:16] <ubot4> asac: parrot (source: parrot): A virtual machine for dynamic languages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 205 kB, installed size 728 kB
[14:16] <dmart> paraview - agreed
[14:17] <asac> has a mov pc, ip
[14:17] <dmart> Also in /jit/... guess it needs a look
[14:17] <asac> yes
[14:17] <asac> !info pdl
[14:17] <ubot4> asac: pdl (source: pdl): perl data language: Perl extensions for numerics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.3-8ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 4781 kB, installed size 15648 kB
[14:17] <asac> false-+
[14:17] <asac> good
[14:17] <asac> !info perl-tk
[14:17] <ubot4> asac: perl-tk (source: perl-tk): Perl module providing the Tk graphics library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:804.028-5 (karmic), package size 2455 kB, installed size 8596 kB
[14:17] <dmart> pdl - agreed
[14:17] <asac> x86
[14:18] <dmart> perl-tk - agreed
[14:18] <asac> !info petsc
[14:18] <ubot4> asac: Package petsc does not exist in karmic
[14:18] <asac> alse false-+
[14:18] <dmart> agreed
[14:18] <asac> !info php-apc
[14:18] <ubot4> asac: php-apc (source: php-apc): APC (Alternative PHP Cache) module for PHP 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19-2 (karmic), package size 56 kB, installed size 172 kB
[14:18] <dmart> swp-based spinlock
[14:18] <asac> yes
[14:18] <dmart> needs a look
[14:18] <asac> !info plt-scheme
[14:18] <ubot4> asac: plt-scheme (source: plt-scheme): PLT Scheme Programming Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-1 (karmic), package size 32256 kB, installed size 147924 kB
[14:19] <dmart> similar
[14:19] <asac> libffi
[14:19] <dmart> yes
[14:19] <asac> and mzscheme
[14:19] <asac> never heard of that
[14:19] <dmart> mzscheme?
[14:19] <asac> ok comment is: "libffi call_reg + mzscheme swp/atomics"
[14:19] <asac> well ;)  the source file is:
[14:19] <dmart> ok
[14:20] <asac> ./plt-scheme-4.2.1/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gc_locks.h:
[14:20] <asac> no clue if that is a third party
[14:20] <asac> !info postgresql-8.3
[14:20] <ubot4> asac: postgresql-8.3 (source: postgresql-8.3): object-relational SQL database, version 8.3 server. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.3.8-1 (karmic), package size 5011 kB, installed size 14132 kB
[14:20] <dmart> yeah, dunno
[14:20] <asac> guess that needs atomics
[14:20] <asac> right... same fix we have for 8.4
[14:20] <dmart>  ./postgresql-8.4-8.4.1/src/include/storage/s_lock.h:           "       swpb    %0, %0, [%2]    \n"
[14:20] <dmart> yes, link it to that
[14:20] <asac> done
[14:20] <asac> !info ptop
[14:20] <ubot4> asac: ptop (source: ptop): PostgreSQL performance monitoring tool akin to top. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.2-1 (karmic), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[14:20] <dmart> false-+
[14:21] <asac> yes
[14:21] <dmart> python* -> doko?
[14:21] <asac> python is doko
[14:21] <asac> !info r-cran-eco
[14:21] <ubot4> asac: r-cran-eco (source: r-cran-eco): GNU R routines for Bayesian ecological inference. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4-1 (karmic), package size 248 kB, installed size 744 kB
[14:21] <dmart> r-cran-* - looks like false-+
[14:21] <asac> false-+
[14:21] <asac> yes
[14:21] <asac> (both)
[14:21] <dmart> !info radare
[14:21] <ubot4> dmart: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB
[14:21] <asac> !info radare
[14:21] <ubot4> asac: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB
[14:21] <dmart> !
[14:22] <asac> disassembler
[14:22] <asac> guess can be ignored
[14:22] <dmart> a hex editor with an arm disassembler in it?
[14:22] <dmart> weird
[14:22] <asac> hehe
[14:22] <asac> ;)
[14:22] <dmart> sounds like emacs ;)
[14:22] <asac> maybe i should try that :)
[14:22] <asac> !info rlplot
[14:22] <ubot4> asac: rlplot (source: rlplot): Generate publication quality graphs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (karmic), package size 955 kB, installed size 2440 kB
[14:22] <dmart> can see how that might be useful
[14:22] <asac> false
[14:22] <asac> +
[14:22] <dmart> yes
[14:23] <asac> !info root-system
[14:23] <ubot4> asac: root-system (source: root-system): Meta package to install all ROOT packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.18.00-2.3ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 26 kB, installed size 72 kB
[14:23] <asac> x86
[14:23] <dmart> root-system - x86 asm false-+
[14:23] <asac> !info rtai
[14:23] <ubot4> asac: rtai (source: rtai): Real Time Application Interface. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.1-1 (karmic), package size 34 kB, installed size 68 kB
[14:23] <dmart> some arm asm in there... probably needs a look
[14:23] <asac> whats that? with imx patches?
[14:24] <dmart> (atomics, pc arith)
[14:24] <dmart> unless this is a bare-metal thing?
[14:24] <dmart> Probably imx < imx51
[14:24] <asac> yeah
[14:24] <asac> !info scummvm
[14:24] <ubot4> asac: scummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' SCUMM interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-1-1 (karmic), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9152 kB
[14:24] <dmart> (there are some earlier architectures)
[14:24] <asac> seems it has mov
[14:25] <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./scummvm-1.0.0~rc1-1/backends/platform/ds/arm9/source/interrupt.s:	mov	pc,lr
[14:25] <asac> ?
[14:25] <asac> or isnt arm9 what we are doing?
[14:25] <asac> hmm .. .gues snot
[14:25] <asac> needs to be checked ;)
[14:25] <dmart> might need a look... it might be in sound chip cmulation code or something though
[14:25] <dmart> have to have scummvm working on netbooks though :)
[14:25] <asac> yes
[14:25] <asac> !info sdparm
[14:25] <ubot4> asac: sdparm (source: sdparm): Output and modify SCSI device parameters. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.02-1 (karmic), package size 113 kB, installed size 372 kB
[14:25] <asac> false
[14:26] <dmart> yes
[14:26] <asac> ok seamonkey is mozilla gain
[14:26] <asac> needs 1.9.2
[14:26] <asac> etc.
[14:26] <dmart> ok
[14:26] <dmart> see - false-+
[14:26] <asac> !info skyeye
[14:26] <ubot4> asac: skyeye (source: skyeye): Embedded Hardware Simulation. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.5-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 239 kB, installed size 700 kB
[14:26] <dmart> Did we alreay have ser?
[14:27] <asac> oh skipped ;)
[14:27] <asac> sorry
[14:27] <asac> !info ser
[14:27] <ubot4> asac: ser (source: ser): high-performance SIP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-2 (karmic), package size 1488 kB, installed size 3876 kB
[14:27] <dmart> some atomics, it does use lrdex/strex but we need to check that is actually used on v7, and that it's smp-safe
[14:28] <dmart> skyeye - a emulator of embedded arm platforms, guess it doesn't apply
[14:29]  * dmart scrolls again
[14:29] <dmart> I can see the end of the table now
[14:29] <dmart> sm - looks like false-+
[14:30] <dmart> !info softgun
[14:30] <ubot4> dmart: softgun (source: softgun): ARM system emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 372 kB, installed size 1096 kB
[14:30] <dmart> softgun - false-+ (arm instruction decode emulation...)
[14:30] <asac> sorry got pulled out ;) ... back now
[14:31] <dmart> I think we had skyeye, softgun since
[14:31] <dmart> Plus ser if you didn't note that yet
[14:32] <dmart> spu-newlib - code looks similar / the same as newlib from main.  I guess we can link the two.
[14:32] <dmart> !info survex
[14:32] <ubot4> dmart: survex (source: survex): cave surveying and mapping software. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.39.1-2.1 (karmic), package size 656 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[14:32] <dmart> some asm code in /riscos/ ... probably doesn't apply
[14:33] <asac> softgun, yes.
[14:34] <dmart> synopsis - embedded libatomic_ops
[14:35] <dmart> (or very similar code anyway).  Link those?
[14:36] <asac> eah
[14:36] <asac> yeah
[14:36] <dmart> !info systemtap
[14:36] <ubot4> dmart: systemtap (source: systemtap): instrumentation system for Linux 2.6. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20090613-1 (karmic), package size 851 kB, installed size 3440 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64 s390 powerpc arm armel armeb all)
[14:36] <dmart> I guess it needs a look... sub <reg>, pc, 4
[14:36] <asac> yes
[14:36] <dmart> What does ubot mean by (Only available for [...] all)?
[14:36] <asac> uboot-imx -> skip
[14:37] <dmart> uboot-imx - yes
[14:37] <asac> no clue
[14:37] <asac> thats a bug
[14:37] <dmart> Well, I guess it's logically true ;)
[14:37] <armin76> !info asac
[14:37] <ubot4> armin76: Package asac does not exist in karmic
[14:38] <asac> we are really almost done
[14:38] <asac> like 12 to go ;)
[14:38] <asac> !info uclmmbase
[14:38] <ubot4> asac: Package uclmmbase does not exist in karmic
[14:38] <dmart> looks like false-+ to me
[14:39] <asac> ack
[14:39] <dmart> virtualbox-ose - what's this doing with embedded mozilla code?
[14:39] <asac> dont ask me :(
[14:39] <asac> needs to be check
[14:39] <asac> ed
[14:40] <asac> !info visualboyadvance
[14:40] <ubot4> asac: visualboyadvance (source: visualboyadvance): full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.0-5 (karmic), package size 308 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[14:40] <dmart> visualboy advance - emulator, not relevant I guess
[14:40] <asac> haha
[14:40] <asac> yeah
[14:40] <asac> !info vtk
[14:40] <ubot4> asac: Package vtk does not exist in karmic
[14:41] <asac> x86
[14:41] <dmart> seems to be some x86 asm
[14:41] <ogra> asac, did your test with build-arm-chroot work ?
[14:41] <asac> ogra: failed the same way :(
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting sysvinit-utils...
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting tar...
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting tzdata...
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting upstart...
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting util-linux...
[14:41] <asac> I: Extracting zlib1g...
[14:41] <asac> chroot: cannot run command `debootstrap/debootstrap': Exec format error
[14:41] <ogra> meh
[14:41] <asac> websvn -> false-+
[14:41] <ogra> try to reinstall qemu-arm-static
[14:41] <dmart> wrong arch?
[14:41] <asac> !info wine
[14:41] <ubot4> asac: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu8 (karmic), package size 7359 kB, installed size 54436 kB
[14:41] <asac> ogra: will do. does that compile something on install?
[14:42] <asac> false positive (wine)
[14:42] <ogra> it sets the sysctl stuff for procps
[14:42] <dmart> I don't expect wine works on arm?
[14:42] <asac> same for wine1.2
[14:42] <asac> heh
[14:42] <ogra> and dumps the binfmt hgandler in place
[14:42] <asac> would be funny if it did ;)
[14:42] <ogra> *handler
[14:42] <dmart> wireshark -+
[14:42] <asac> ogra: let me finish this ;) ...
[14:42] <ogra> probably wine-ce :)
[14:42] <asac> almost dying ;)
[14:42] <dmart> wxwidgets* -+ (same x86 code as vtk)
[14:42] <asac> !info wireshark
[14:42] <ubot4> asac: wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-2 (karmic), package size 716 kB, installed size 1824 kB
[14:42] <dmart> (only 6 more)
[14:43] <ogra> asac, yeah, i see W :)
[14:43] <asac> ah
[14:43] <asac> yeah thats fals-+
[14:43] <asac> and the ex thing too
[14:43] <dmart> !info xenomai
[14:43] <ubot4> dmart: Package xenomai does not exist in karmic
[14:43] <dmart> bah
[14:43] <asac> !info xemacs21-packages
[14:43] <ubot4> asac: Package xemacs21-packages does not exist in karmic
[14:43] <asac> guess emacs is covered
[14:43] <dmart> yes
[14:43] <dmart> xenomai has swp-based atomics and other asm
[14:44] <dmart> probably needs a look
[14:44] <asac> yeah. lots of stuff in there
[14:44] <asac> !info xindy
[14:44] <ubot4> asac: xindy (source: xindy): index generator for structured documents like LaTeX or SGML. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-2 (karmic), package size 2245 kB, installed size 3656 kB
[14:44] <dmart> I predict -+
[14:44] <asac> it has mov etc.
[14:45] <dmart> oh
[14:45] <asac> rte/...
[14:45] <asac> that looks familliar
[14:45] <asac> is that a code copy again?
[14:45] <dmart> clisp-2.43/ffcall
[14:45] <dmart> I don't think so (can't find it anyway)
[14:45] <asac> yes
[14:46] <asac> !info xmp
[14:46] <ubot4> asac: xmp (source: xmp): A module player supporting AWE32, GUS, and software-mixing. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.7.0-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 235 kB, installed size 560 kB
[14:46] <dmart> some embedded lisp interpreter anyway
[14:46] <asac> false-+
[14:46] <asac> !info xulrunner
[14:46] <ubot4> asac: xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[14:46] <asac> -> covered by xul 1.9.2 + patch
[14:46] <asac> still needed (so a bug)
[14:46] <asac> !info yabause
[14:46] <ubot4> asac: yabause (source: yabause): beautiful and under-rated Saturn emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1 (karmic), package size 16 kB, installed size 52 kB
[14:46] <asac> (LAST ONE)
[14:47] <asac> x86 false +
[14:47] <dmart> -+ yes
[14:47] <asac> yessssss
[14:47] <ogra> whats a saturn emulator
[14:47] <dmart> The author is modest in the description ;)
[14:47] <dmart> sega saturn?
[14:47] <asac> ok saving
[14:47] <asac> uff
[14:47] <asac> i think i need a break
[14:47] <ogra> ah, sega
[14:48] <ogra> i was wondering about something kosmic :)
[14:48] <dmart> main() { while(1) be big and round; }
[14:48] <asac> dmart: did you move the false-positives out to a separte table for main?
[14:49] <asac> i guess we should do tha tbefore starting to file bugs ;)
[14:49] <dmart> I made a heading with "Disregarded packages (no further action required)" - the junk is under there.  We can maybe move all that stuff to the end of the page
[14:49] <asac> yeah
[14:50] <asac> or to a separte wiki page even
[14:50] <dmart> For universe, I already made [DISREGARDED], though it is not a proper wiki heading
[14:50] <asac> to make that page less huge
[14:50] <dmart> Yes, a separate page would be good
[14:50] <asac> we should surely add a ToC
[14:50] <dmart> How do you do that in the Ubuntu wiki?
[14:50] <asac> one second there are examples
[14:51] <asac> like on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam
[14:51] <asac> so ||<tablestyle="float:right; font-size: 0.9em; width:30%; background:#F1F1ED; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position:  98% 0.5ex; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; padding: 0.5em;"><<TableOfContents>>||
[14:51] <asac> guess just <<TableOfContents>> wrks
[14:51] <asac> but looks bad
[14:51] <asac> let me add it
[14:51] <dmart> okay
[14:51] <dmart> thanks
[14:52] <asac> ok its on there
[14:52] <asac>  a bit huge ;)
[14:52] <dmart> it works
[14:52] <asac> hmm. let me remove the width constraint
[14:52] <asac> thats bad
[14:53] <asac> ok saved
[14:53] <asac> its better now
[14:53] <asac> dont think we need a new page with that
[14:53] <dmart> ok
[14:53] <asac> just so that the not so releva nt stuff gets to the bottom or osmething
[14:54] <dmart> I should write a wiki page with an overview of what sort of action is needed to fix the different kinds of matches, then we can link to if from the bugs raised
[15:46] <asac> dmart: yes, if you can do that it would be great
[15:46] <asac> we could also port a few different cases, and then point to the patches as examples
[15:46] <asac> if thats easier
[15:46] <dmart> Yes, that would be good.
[15:47] <dmart> I'm writing some stuff for the wiki now...
[15:48] <dmart> The "mov pc" type cases, and cases where "swp" is causing ftbfs, are the highest priority things for luci, since these may break function calls.
[15:49] <dmart> The swp and smp-safety stuff is more for future-proofing and some performance aspects (though we should work through these, time allowing).
[15:49] <dmart> I'll try to explain this on the wiki...
[16:14] <asac> 17:13 < seb128> asac, can somebody maybe get a stracktrace?
[16:14] <ogra> hmm, so sqid fails reliably at the same line with a segfault
[16:14] <asac> plars: ^^
[16:14] <asac> thats on nautilus crash
[16:14] <ogra> *squid
[16:15] <asac> plars: we are looking at the diff atm.
[16:15] <plars> asac: this is on the gvfs thing?
[16:15] <asac> plars: yes
[16:15] <plars> asac: sure, let me see what I can do
[16:15] <asac> ogra: we want the -save-temps .ii ... then give that doko
[16:15] <ogra> ?
[16:15] <asac> guess needs a local build ;)
[16:16] <asac> ogra: doko probably will probably want a .ii file for the source that causes the gcc crash
[16:16] <asac> so build with -save-temps
[16:16] <asac> in CFLAGS
[16:16] <ogra> oh, ok
[16:17] <asac> dmart: thanks.
[16:17] <asac> i will try to adjust priority for the bugs i file accordingly
[16:17] <asac> making the mov pc and swp with ftbfs release critical
[16:17] <asac> ogra: so what do you want from binfmt?
[16:17] <ogra> i ?
[16:17] <ogra> you want something from binfmt :)
[16:17] <ogra> check if /usr/share/binfmts/arm exists
[16:17] <asac> find /sys/  | grep binfmt | pastebinit
[16:17] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f63420615
[16:18] <asac> ok
[16:18] <ogra> and also check for /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf
[16:18] <ogra> these are the two files that enable qemu-arm-static
[16:18] <asac> i have /usr/share/binfmts/arm
[16:18] <asac> cat /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf
[16:18] <asac> vm.vdso_enabled = 0
[16:18] <asac> vm.mmap_min_addr = 4097
[16:19] <asac> now reinstalling the quem-arm-static
[16:19] <asac> one second
[16:19] <ogra> well, thats all looking good
[16:19] <ogra> do you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support ?
[16:19] <lool> asac: It's in /proc
[16:19] <lool> /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm usually
[16:20] <asac> ogra: yes.
[16:20] <asac> cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm
[16:20] <asac> enabled
[16:20] <asac> interpreter /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
[16:20] <asac> flags:
[16:20] <asac> offset 0
[16:20] <asac> magic 7f454c4601010100000000000000000002002800
[16:20] <asac> mask ffffffffffffff00fffffffffffffffffeffffff
[16:20] <asac> looks good too i guess :(
[16:20] <ogra> lool, last time we checked his machine didnt even have binfmt_misc loaded
[16:20] <lool> asac: Try running /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
[16:20] <asac> yeah. thats loaded now
[16:20] <asac> (i force it in modules)
[16:20] <ogra> asac, by running the initscript ?
[16:20] <ogra> thats wrong
[16:20] <asac> ogra: no in /etc/modules
[16:20] <ogra> the initscript wraps a lot of other stuff around it
[16:21] <asac> guess i need some arm binary
[16:21] <ogra> check if you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support in place
[16:21] <asac> to test /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
[16:21] <asac> what would be a good one?
[16:21] <ogra> just run build-arm-chroot
[16:21] <asac> ogra: i have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support
[16:21] <ogra> second stage execs in qemu-arm-static
[16:21] <asac> ogra: well. thats what i ran before ;)
[16:21] <asac> it failed the same way
[16:21] <ogra> then i dont get why you have to forcefully load the module
[16:22] <asac> and since i didnt even change anything i would think it still fails
[16:22] <ogra> if the initscript runs it should load it
[16:22] <asac> anyway. i reinstalled the package
[16:22] <asac> let me try again
[16:22]  * asac runs
[16:22] <ogra> i suspect its rather binfmt-support
[16:22] <asac> build-arm-chroot lucid lucid1
[16:22] <ogra> than qemu-arm-static
[16:22] <ogra> +you should really use a local package proxy :)
[16:23] <asac> what does /usr/sbin/update-binfmts do?
[16:23] <asac> worth running?
[16:23] <ogra> it enables the arm binfmt handler
[16:23] <ogra> it runs from the postinst of qemu-arm-static
[16:23] <asac> ok reinstalling the -support package
[16:23] <asac> hmm
[16:23] <asac> update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-6, but binary format
[16:23] <asac> already installed by sun-java6  * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support
[16:24] <asac> guess thats not a prob
[16:24] <asac> lets wait if the chroot fails again
[16:24] <ogra> yeah
[16:24] <ogra> i dont get why your binfmt module isnt loaded though
[16:25] <asac> ogra: its loaded atm
[16:25] <asac> havent checked if it still doesnt get loaded
[16:25] <ogra> no, i mean by the initscript
[16:25] <asac> will reboot after the chroot fails
[16:25] <asac> yeah. i will double check ... maybe its fixed now somehow ;)
[16:25] <ogra> heh
[16:25] <plars> asac: wasn't having much luck getting a backtrace with symbols yesterday, but I'm not seeing any -dbg packages for gvfs stuff
[16:25] <asac> plars: we have -dbgsym
[16:25] <asac> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/
[16:26] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[16:26] <ogra> and -dbg packages should additionally be on LP
[16:26] <asac> there are the apt lines you need to get -dbgsym for packages that dont have -dbg
[16:26] <asac> not for all packages
[16:26] <ogra> usually for all gnome ones
[16:28] <asac> ogra: none for gvfscommon
[16:28] <ogra> oh
[16:28] <asac> plars: so yeah. grab the -dbgsym ... also for glib i guess and gio or whatever is involved
[16:28] <asac> and libc-dbg
[16:28] <asac> etc.
[16:28] <asac> but guess you just lacked the ddeb trick
[16:29] <asac> ogra:
[16:29] <asac> I: Configuring libselinux1...
[16:29] <asac> I: Configuring libstdc++6...
[16:29] <asac> I: Configuring coreutils...
[16:29] <asac> I: Configuring makedev...
[16:29] <asac> that looks good, right?
[16:29] <ogra> yes
[16:29]  * asac thinks it didnt get that far last time
[16:29] <asac> nice
[16:29] <asac> so reinstall one of the two packages helped
[16:29] <asac> so seems something with triggers isnt right
[16:29] <asac> bad packaging ;)
[16:29] <ogra> i suspect binfmt-support
[16:30] <asac> guess it doesnt ship any triggers
[16:30] <asac> but should
[16:30] <ogra> since the module was missing
[16:30] <asac> too bad i reinstalled both ;)
[16:30] <asac> otherwise we would have known it now
[16:30] <ogra> or its just that lool broke qemu-arm-static with all his repackaging :P
[16:30]  * ogra hides
[16:30] <asac> lol
[16:31] <asac> did anything happen on that front at all?
[16:31] <asac> thought its still the same somewhat
[16:31] <ogra> no, we dropped the spec
[16:31] <ogra> it works, why break it
[16:31] <ogra> i'D love to see mono support
[16:31] <ogra> then rootstock wouldnt need a vm
[16:32] <ogra> but given that this seems close to impossible to fix (its very old and many people tried before) i wont waste my time on it
[16:38] <asac> ok now for rootstock
[16:38] <Devils0411> Âñåì äîáðûé âå÷åð
[16:38] <Devils0411> åñòü ðóññêèå?
[16:38] <ogra> Devils0411, english please :)
[16:40] <ogra> lool, did you get anywhere with the versatile kernel ?
[16:40] <Devils0411> Offtopic. Who knows, what OS in this device http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=undefined&product_id=211
[16:46] <plars> asac: still not having much luck
[16:46] <asac> plars: how does the backtrace look like?
[16:47] <plars> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364678/
[16:48] <asac> plars: post that to the bug and say thats best you can get
[16:48] <asac> what is signal 6 ?
[16:49] <plars> asac: sigabrt
[16:49] <ogra> thats not gvfs
[16:49] <asac> ogra: the downgrade of libgvfscommon fixes it
[16:49] <ogra> cant you somehow get a gvfs BT
[16:50] <asac> could be that its nautilus, but for now it feels its gvfs ... especially since that has a recent update
[16:50] <ogra> no, i meant the backtrace
[16:50] <asac> well. nautilus links against libgvfs?
[16:50] <ogra> i wonder if there is a way to rather get something more diectly from gvfs
[16:51] <asac> for that we need to find someting else that crashes i guess
[16:52] <Devils0411> That's what I found! / bin / uname-a
[16:52] <Devils0411> ----------------------------------
[16:52] <Devils0411> Eval command:! / bin / uname-a
[16:52] <Devils0411> Linux nas_storage 2.6.20.21-4600 # 30 PREEMPT Fri Apr 10 12:06:05 CST 2009 i686 unknown
[16:52] <Devils0411> but what exactly is OS?
[16:52] <GrueMaster> Devils0411: It could be in-house.  Either way, it isn't arm based.
[16:53] <ogra> asac, well, apt-cache rdepends gvfs gets quite a bunch of binaries that depend on it
[16:54] <Devils0411> How to determine?
[16:55] <asac> plars: do you see crashes in any of those?
[16:55] <asac> evince
[16:55] <asac> ekiga
[16:55] <asac> guess you need to open something throw gvfs
[16:55] <ogra> i guess deb-gview would be an easy candidate to test from cmdline
[16:55] <plars> asac: will have to try remotely, as the nautilus issue keeps me from getting into X successfully
[16:55] <ogra> seems a small thing
[16:55] <asac> plars: cant you comment it out in gnome-session?
[16:56] <plars> asac: then I just get a blank desktop, no gnome, just a cursor
[16:56] <asac> so gnome-panel also dies?
[16:56] <plars> evince works
[16:56] <ogra> see the reverse deps :)
[16:56] <plars> does not crash
[16:56] <ogra> yeah, here too
[16:57] <plars> installing ekiga
[16:57] <ogra> i guess until you open something
[16:57] <ogra> using a gvfs path
[16:57] <asac> plars: did you open something from a gvfs location?
[16:57] <asac> like ssh?
[16:57] <asac> or just with gvfs path, yeah
[16:57] <asac> not sure about the syntax though
[16:59] <ogra> i wonder what gcalctool does with gvfs
[16:59] <asac> plars: maybe using evince file:///path/to/file.pdf ... would trigger gvfs code paths
[16:59] <ogra> it doesnt even have a file dialog
[17:00] <asac> evince?
[17:00] <asac> wow
[17:00] <asac> o gcalctool
[17:00] <ogra> no, gcalctool
[17:00] <asac> yea. i think its clutter
[17:01] <asac> -Wl,--as-needed
[17:01] <asac> missing
[17:02] <plars> evince still working fine, even with file:// path
[17:02] <ogra> hmm, opening a file in evince complains a lot about gconfd not running
[17:02] <asac> ogra: opening with file:// ?
[17:02] <plars> ys
[17:02] <ogra> yep
[17:02] <asac> anyway.
[17:02] <ogra> or with the file dialog
[17:02] <asac> so i have to get the code ;)
[17:02] <asac> the patch alone hasnt enough context
[17:04] <ogra> brasero works fine as well
[17:04] <ogra> i can add files etc
[17:04] <ogra> so its likely the way nautilus uses gvfs
[17:05] <ogra> oh
[17:05] <ogra> and i can fire off nautilus --no-desktop through ssh
[17:06] <ogra> so its nautilus in interaction with something that actually causes the crash
[17:07] <GrueMaster> Are these problems the reason we don't have daily builds?
[17:08] <ogra> no
[17:08] <ogra> gnome uploads arent finished
[17:08] <ogra> there are out of sync packages
[17:08] <ogra> (the logs should tell)
[17:08] <GrueMaster> Any eta?
[17:08] <ogra> no idea
[17:08] <ogra> its a development release :)
[17:08] <ogra> people upload stuff
[17:23] <ogra> GrueMaster, seems the breaking dove keeps imx51 from building, i manually triggered an imx51 build now
[17:23] <asac_> plars: so you say just gvfscommon fixes it?
[17:23] <GrueMaster> yea.
[17:23] <plars> libgvfscommon0
[17:24] <plars> downgrading by one level fixes
[17:25] <asac_> hmm
[17:26] <asac_> plars: all other gvfs packages are up to date? e.g. gvfs-backends?
[17:26] <plars> asac: yes
[17:26] <asac_> and have the same versoin as the crasjing common package i guess?
[17:27] <plars> asac: yes, all of them at 1.5.2-0ubuntu1
[17:30] <ogra> ok, all gstreamer bits (including totem) are gone from the ftbfs list
[17:31]  * ogra wishes the page would be updated more frequently than once a day
[17:39] <asac> right
[17:40] <asac> ogra: do you know who owns that?
[20:51] <asac> ogra: what was the url i had to use for the lucid kernel?
[20:57] <ogra> asac, which one ? for qemu ?
[20:59] <asac> ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364787/
[20:59] <ogra> oh, yeah, thats the jaunty one
[21:00] <ogra> you try to build lucid, right ?
[21:00] <ogra> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/project-rootstock/trunk/revision/31