[04:06] <kermiac> can someone pls confirm that bug 315074 is a dupe of bug 512096?
[04:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 315074 in dpkg "dpkg error by libc6 installation: can post-installation script no execute: Exec format error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315074
[04:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512096 in dpkg "[MASTER] Exec format error : package failed to install/remove : installation/removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512096
[04:06] <kermiac> I think it is, but am not 100%
[09:13] <BUGabundo_remote> morning
[09:19] <vish> evening ;)
[09:21] <BUGabundo_remote> vish: you need to run an ntpdate :p
[10:27] <issyl0> Hi!
[11:00] <RunePhilosof> Is there an easy way to see the diff between the debian and the ubuntu version of a source package?
[11:10] <jmarsden> RunePhilosof: Download them and use debdiff on the two .dsc files
[11:57] <RunePhilosof> jmarsden, is there a tool to download the debian version of a ubuntu source package?
[12:17]  * kamusin :)
[12:24]  * vish wonders if anyone else knew today is hugday :s
[12:30] <yofel> hi folks
[12:32] <yofel> vish: it's not as the hugday is over in 5 min :P
[12:33] <vish> yofel: heh , you must be in an earlier time zone than me ;)
[12:33] <yofel> GMT+1
[12:33] <yofel> (germany)
[12:33] <vish> yofel: then 28th *is* hugday , so now ;p
[12:34]  * vish double checks date
[12:34] <yofel> vish: yep, but some of us actually don't have too much free time in the morning during the week :P
[12:35] <vish> yoasif: evening here ;)  gmt+5:30
[12:35] <vish> argh! yofel ^
[12:35] <yofel> heh
[12:36]  * vish damn , needs to check tab completions :s
[12:36] <yofel> well, it'll get busier once the US guys wake up ^^
[12:36] <yofel> vish: actually I think yoasif is already used to being mistaken for me XD
[12:37] <vish> ;)
[12:37]  * yofel goes reading the uone triage guide
[13:02] <issyl0> I am sorry about my repeated re-connections!
[13:05] <issyl0> Okay, off I go to triage some more bugs!
[13:12] <issyl0> What's the link for completely new un-triaged bugs?  Is there one?  Ubuntu bugs
[13:12] <duanedesign> aha issyl0 i found you :)
[13:13] <duanedesign> issyl0: i heard you found a Beginners Team mentor \o/
[13:13] <duanedesign> issyl0: let me fetch you a link for finding bugs.....
[13:15] <duanedesign> issyl0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks   here is a nice list of bug tasks
[13:15]  * yofel didn't know about that page, nice one ^^
[13:18] <duanedesign> also this link will take toy to New bugs, Importance: Undecided, For Ubuntu. This will be normally bugs that are likely to be untouched
[13:18] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.affects_me.
[13:19] <duanedesign> uh oh
[13:19] <duanedesign> :\
[13:19] <yofel> vish: is it just me or do the ubuntu one triagers almost never set a bug to triaged?
[13:19] <vish> yofel: and never close old unanswered bugs :s
[13:20] <yofel> vish: do you know where to find the bug supervisors of ubuntuone, I can't really fine a guideline when a bug is supposed to be triaged :/
[13:20] <duanedesign> here is a more suitable link size. http://tiny.cc/FbQ2A
[13:21] <vish> yofel: #ubuntu-one
[13:21] <vish> oops no..
[13:21] <Pici> #ubuntuone
[13:22] <vish> ha , an extra -
[13:23] <kamusin> maybe you should ask to JoshuaHoover
[13:23] <yofel> gound something: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne#BugTriage
[13:23] <yofel> *found
[13:26] <Pici> Anyway, I just pointed #ubuntu-one to #ubuntuone so that people can find it easier.
[13:26] <yofel> thx Pici ^^
[13:27] <issyl0> duanedesign: thanks!
[13:30] <duanedesign> issyl0: absoloutely. If you have any questions feel free to /msg me and i will help as best i can.
[13:31] <duanedesign> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs
[13:32] <duanedesign> for anyone helping with the Ubuntu One bugs today that is a great resource^^
[13:34]  * issyl0 doesn't know where to start, there are just too many bugs haha
[13:35] <issyl0> duanedesign: PM?
[13:36] <duanedesign> issyl0: sorry, private message. '/msg duanedesign hello duane'
[13:36] <duanedesign> issyl0: is SilverFox your mentor in Beginners Team?
[13:36] <issyl0> Yes.  I meant can I PM you now? :)
[13:37] <issyl0> duanedesign: Yep
[13:37] <duanedesign> issyl0: he he, of course
[13:37]  * issyl0 knows what PM is :P
[13:42] <yofel> got this from #ubuntuone https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs/WorkFlow
[13:45] <bhuvi> when will ubuntuone get proxy support
[13:46] <yofel> bhuvi: you should really ask that in #ubuntuone
[14:53] <duanedesign> is there something in the logs i can look at to verify if an ubuntuone-client bug is a duplicate of bug 437165
[14:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 437165 in ubuntuone-servers "UbuntuOne stuck in an endless authentication loop (always changes to «Authentication failed»)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437165
[14:53] <pedro_> joshuahoover ^ ?
[14:56] <bddebian> Boo
[14:57] <joshuahoover> duanedesign, pedro: checking...
[15:02] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: can you send me the bug that you think is a dupe of 437165?
[15:03] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: Bug 488393
[15:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 488393 in ubuntuone-client "Must always login and add computer on start-up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488393
[15:05] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: 488393 is not related to 437165...437165 is where the user can't get out of the loop to add their computer to their u1 account...488393 is always asking the user to add his computer but sounds like the user is able to do it, not getting stuck in a loop
[15:06] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: ahhh. thank you for the clarification
[15:07] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: there is a strange [Errno socket error] [Errno 8] _ssl.c:480: EOF occurred in violation of protocol line in the oauth-login.log file for 488393 though, which i'm looking into
[15:08] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: i was just looking at bug 513748
[15:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513748 in ubuntuone-client "_ssl.c:480: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513748
[15:10] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: ahh but it looks like bug 513748 has:  read_limit = -1 error
[15:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513748 in ubuntuone-client "_ssl.c:480: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513748
[15:10] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: yep
[15:11] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: so that's one thing...we can ask the user to try to delete ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf and restart the u1 client and also check if the user is behind a firewall
[15:11] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: not firewall, proxy server
[15:12] <duanedesign> kk
[15:45] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 4 starting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom (first: Adopt-An-Upstream)
[15:56] <qense> seb128, pedro_: When you leave a message that a Nautilus bug should be reported upstream, would you please also open an empty upstream task for it? That way the forwarders of the Nautilus Adoption team can easily track those bugs.
[15:56] <seb128> ok
[15:57] <qense> seb128: thanks!
[15:57] <pedro_> qense, yup!
[15:57] <seb128> you're welcome
[16:27] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: i am looking at a bug that has the Dbus error associated with bug 461614 i see no fix mentioned in master bug. they are running the 1.0.2 client. Should i suggest an update?
[16:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 461614 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntu one wouldnt connect and then gets d-bus error: did not recieve reply" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461614
[16:28] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: looking...
[16:28] <duanedesign> bug 513849 is the one i was looking at
[16:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513849 in ubuntuone-client "Ubuntu One does not replicate all files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513849
[16:35] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: 513849 doesn't seem to be related to 461614...513849 is related to files not syncing so we need to provide this response: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs#Syncing%20problems%20%28not%20syncing%20completely,%20conflicts,%20etc.%29
[16:36] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: although, wait
[16:36] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: i see alex's follow up comment
[16:37] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: hmmm...we need to know whether the client is not connecting on startup (doesn't appear to be but it's hard to say for sure) and whether files do sync once he manually connects
[16:39] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: okie dokey :) thanks
[16:39] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: thank you for all the help you've been providing!
[16:41] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: its been fun i learned alot. i tried to take care of some low hanging fruit last night because i knew the Jam was today. Wanted to clear out the easy/known problems for when the heavyweights came in today, lol
[16:41] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: heh, thanks for doing that!
[17:03] <strycore_> here
[17:03] <strycore_> So I was telling in ubuntu-classroom-chat about a strange thing in  Launchpad
[17:04] <strycore_> I've seen several upstream bugs with the status unknown
[17:04] <strycore_> like this one
[17:04] <strycore_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-file/+bug/319872
[17:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 319872 in apt-file "/usr/share/apt-file/is-cache-empty has dashisms, emits errors" [Undecided,New]
[17:04] <jcastro> strycore_: one sec, is the bug actually fixed in ubuntu?
[17:04] <jcastro> or is this a launchpad not reporting the right thing issue?
[17:04] <strycore_> let me see
[17:05] <strycore_> it should be
[17:05] <strycore_> the issue has been fixed in apt-file 2.1.1
[17:05] <strycore_> and we have 2.3.3
[17:05] <jcastro> yeah
[17:06] <jcastro> lp bug probably.
[17:06] <jcastro> strycore_: ok, let me go ask someone on the bugs team on #launchpad
[17:06] <strycore_> ok thanks
[17:14] <jcastro> strycore_: bugs guy is lunching and I'm about to lunch, I'll catch him this afternoon and let you know
[17:25] <vish> strycore_: there is currently a problem with the bug watchers , hence the status of the upstream bugs in not correctly updated
[17:26] <vish> it should be fixed soon
[17:26] <vish> s/in/is
[17:42] <strycore_> ok thanks for the info
[18:04]  * joshuahoover afk...bbiab
[18:07] <vish> *sigh* U1 is a black hole for new bug reporters
[18:09] <yofel> heh
[18:11] <yofel> shows, nicely on the hugday graph, on first glance it seems that we only closed bugs today
[18:27] <duanedesign> i have a couple of questions in regards to Ubuntu One bugs. Some projects have a little different preferences. After making an initial contact and requesting more info should the bug be set to 'incomplete' or does the U1 team prefer them to stay 'New'
[18:33] <tsimpson> duanedesign: you should ask in #ubuntuone I guess
[18:38] <hggdh> duanedesign: generically, if you requested more data from the OP, you should mark the bug INCOMPLETE
[18:38] <hggdh> and, after providing the data you requested, the OP would mark the bug NEW (again)
[18:40] <duanedesign> hggdh: thank you.
[20:29] <charlie-tca> question: is it a policy to close the bug in ubuntu when reported upstream?
[20:32] <thekorn_> a general policy? - I don't think so
[20:32] <thekorn_> I cant think of a situation where this makes sense
[20:33] <thekorn_> but there might be a chance I'm missing something
[20:34] <charlie-tca> bug 164120
[20:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 164120 in nfs-utils "file manager hangs when mounted nfs drive is no longer accessible" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164120
[20:35] <charlie-tca> It doesn't make sense to me either, but maybe I am reading something wrong there. I find it rather difficult to follow reports when the active source is upstream.
[20:37] <thekorn_> charlie-tca, you mean the laste change made to the thunar task?
[20:37] <charlie-tca> yeah
[20:38] <thekorn_> charles_, that's not an ubuntu task ;)
[20:38] <charlie-tca> but I see it now. It was already upstream with thunar, instead of the thunar (ubuntu) package
[20:38] <charlie-tca> Glad I asked. I was reading something wrong there.
[20:38] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[20:39] <thekorn_> right, many task sometimes make bugreports kind of unreadable
[20:39] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:45] <yofel> thekorn_: note: actually the kubuntu team marks the ubuntu task invalid ATM if the bug is an upstream KDE issue
[20:46] <thekorn_> yofel, even if this is also an issue in current kubuntu?Ü
[20:48] <yofel> thekorn_: yes, but only new bugs, old ones stay, the reporter is encouraged to report the bug in the KDE BT. The bug will be fixed in Kubuntu when the KDE release with the fix gets into Kubuntu
[20:50] <thekorn_> yofel, oh, interessting ;) altough it does not make sense to me, but I hope this policy is documented somewhere
[20:50] <micahg> thekorn_: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/timelord
[20:50] <thekorn_> and such changes are not made without a comment to the bugreport
[20:53] <thekorn_> some team policies are really funny, but if they make theteams happy it is a good thing
[21:22] <strycore_> hey
[21:23] <bdmurray> hey hey
[21:23] <strycore_> what does it mean : "this package has been orphaned"
[21:23] <strycore_> ?
[21:23] <bdmurray> Could you provide some more context?
[21:23] <strycore_> it's in debian, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=510530
[21:23] <ubot4> Debian bug 510530 in ftp.debian.org "RM: pcsx-df -- RoSponsor; license issue (#514446), orphaned for almost 2 years" [Normal,Open]
[21:24] <bdmurray> So the package does not have a maintainer (someone who specifically cares for it) in Debian
[21:24] <strycore_> i see, i was afraid about that
[21:32] <strycore_> I guess i can go read the Debian Maintainer's guide if I want this fixed :P
[21:43] <hggdh> strycore_: a bit more complex... the package needs a *Debian* maintainer. Chances are it will take you at least one year to get to be one...
[21:43] <hggdh> meanwhile, you can always patch it, and offer for acceptance on Debian
[21:44] <strycore_> yes and if I don't read the maintainer guide it will take me even longer :)
[21:45] <strycore_> i'm asking the pcsx-df guys to do it, there also an issue with a file with a restrictive license and it could be replaced with the code from mame
[22:15] <hggdh> strycore_: indeed.