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| DJones | Just a heads up, CTCP versions & http spam have reappeared in ubuntu-ukm only one so far, but possibly a sign of more to come | 09:53 |
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| jpds | DJones: The cat is on fire. | 10:07 |
| markie- | i'm here to discuss a ban made against me concerning -women, and would like to see it lifted | 14:32 |
| erUSUL | markie-: you will have to contact some women op | 14:34 |
| erUSUL | markie-: dunno if it has a ops channel if not try contactin via query | 14:35 |
| Myrtti | that would be hypa7ia | 14:35 |
| Tm_T | would -ops be good place for discussion? | 14:35 |
| erUSUL | Tm_T: ops is only for #ubuntu afaik | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | erUSUL: not true | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | it's for core channels | 14:36 |
| Tm_T | which is a bit more than just #u (: | 14:36 |
| erUSUL | is #ubuntu-women a core channel? | 14:37 |
| Tm_T | I am not sure, that's why I'm asking | 14:37 |
| markie- | how can i get in touch with hypa7ia? | 14:37 |
| erUSUL | !seen hypa7ia | 14:37 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 14:37 |
| uBOTu-fr | erUSUL: I have not seen hypa7ia. | 14:37 |
| Pici | one moment. | 14:38 |
| Tm_T | why uBOTu-fr is here? | 14:38 |
| Pici | Tm_T: all the bots are here | 14:38 |
| Tm_T | oh, then it shouldn't talk the same time with ubottu, I'd say (: | 14:38 |
| Pici | Tm_T: Many of them use -irc as their relay channel for ! ops messages. | 14:39 |
| Tm_T | aye | 14:39 |
| Tm_T | I have no issues those being here, just not multiple bots answering same call | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | ♥ | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | pleia2: do you happen to be awake/present/available? | 14:40 |
| pleia2 | markie-: there have been several complaints that you made people uncomfortable there, and reports that you ban evaded to get around the ban | 14:40 |
| Myrtti | ♥ ♥ ♥ | 14:40 |
| * hypa7ia is here too, and supports keeping the ban | 14:40 | |
| pleia2 | I am not comfortable removing it at this time | 14:40 |
| markie- | do you know when you will be comfortable about removing it? | 14:41 |
| hypa7ia | when you show any indication of doing useful work to get women involved in the ubuntu project, rather than just being a troll. | 14:42 |
| pleia2 | markie-: you've been banned and kicked from multiple channels *recently* - perhaps when you learn to behave in a manner that is more acceptable to the wider ubuntu community we can give you a chance in #ubuntu-women again too | 14:42 |
| hypa7ia | seems reasonable to me, pleia2 | 14:43 |
| Tm_T | yes | 14:44 |
| Pici | hypa7ia, pleia2: thanks for looking at this :) | 14:48 |
| pleia2 | welcome :) | 14:48 |
| hypa7ia | no problemo, Pici :) | 14:48 |
| markie- | i have helped women to get involved in the ubuntu community | 14:48 |
| ubot2 | Tm_T called the ops in #ubuntu-locoteams () | 14:49 |
| Tm_T | markie-: that doesn't matter if you don't behave in IRC-channels | 14:49 |
| markie- | pleia2: are you a op too? | 14:50 |
| Myrtti | heads up, there's spambots doing a round again | 14:51 |
| pleia2 | markie-: I'm the channel founder | 14:51 |
| erUSUL | Myrtti: ty | 14:51 |
| markie- | and pici is? | 14:52 |
| Tm_T | markie-: I wonder why you ask this | 14:53 |
| Pici | markie-: Pici is an Ubuntu operator and I have a seat on the IRC Council. | 14:53 |
| markie- | alright, yea that's fine, i just get confused with which op i have to speak to thesedays | 14:54 |
| Pici | markie-: I'm not involved in this matter (yet), just was trying to get the people who were involved to take a look. | 14:55 |
| markie- | would it help if i bring a woman in to tell you how i help her with ubuntu all the time? | 14:55 |
| Tm_T | markie-: no, as long as you cannot behave in IRC-channels | 14:56 |
| markie- | Tm_T: who are you again? | 14:56 |
| Pici | Tm_T: pm? | 14:56 |
| Tm_T | Pici: sure | 14:56 |
| pleia2 | markie-: the ubuntu women project is about encouraging women in general to contribute, you have shown thus far to make many of the members of our channel uncomfortable | 14:56 |
| pleia2 | one woman saying you helped her won't change this | 14:56 |
| pleia2 | my comment stands | 14:57 |
| markie- | what if i bring two in? | 14:57 |
| pleia2 | I am not going to play this game with you, please stop | 14:57 |
| markie- | it's not a game, i do actaully help people, despite the fact i have a fairly bad rep | 14:58 |
| markie- | which i'm _trying_ to clean up, hence me being here | 14:58 |
| pleia2 | the problem is your "fairly bad rep" - it hurts our channel, makes us uncomfortable and causes women to leave | 14:58 |
| pleia2 | if you do learn to clean up, you're welcome to come back and ask again, but I see no evidence of this in the past week | 14:59 |
| markie- | it's been quite awhile since that ban | 14:59 |
| pleia2 | and it's been only a few days since the latest report of your poor behavior in the community | 14:59 |
| markie- | yea but there are different types of poor bahavior, some of which are not related | 15:00 |
| * hypa7ia is rapidly locing interest in this discussion | 15:01 | |
| hypa7ia | *losing | 15:01 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I've said what I'm going to say | 15:01 |
| pleia2 | markie-: I do hope you learn to improve your behavior, for yourself and the community | 15:01 |
| markie- | true, me too. and that's what i've set out to do | 15:02 |
| markie- | today | 15:02 |
| markie- | well, over the past few days | 15:02 |
| markie- | making a clean start, trying to clean up the image of -cym aswell | 15:02 |
| hypa7ia | markie-: why don't you work on that for a while and then ask again in say two months? | 15:03 |
| hypa7ia | as a show of good faith, don't bother us until then. | 15:03 |
| markie- | two months, really? what about one? | 15:04 |
| markie- | and yes i'm actually serious about this | 15:04 |
| hypa7ia | markie-: two months. it's going to take some time to undo the harm you've done. | 15:04 |
| markie- | two months it is then | 15:05 |
| hypa7ia | much appreciated. we'll touch base then, ok? | 15:06 |
| markie- | yep | 15:06 |
| markie- | it was nice speaking to you all, have a very wonderful day | 15:07 |
| hypa7ia | good stuff, you too. | 15:07 |
| markie- | :) | 15:07 |
| hypa7ia | it goes pretty much unsaid that bans elsewhere reset that 2 month marker | 15:09 |
| hypa7ia | i think | 15:09 |
| Tm_T | who knows (: | 15:10 |
| hypa7ia | anywhoo, back to vegging out :) | 15:10 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| nealmcb | so what is the deal with these repeated CTCP VERSION messages in a bunch of channels. Pigeon give me annoying popups for them "no such nick or channel". Is it just spam? probing for security vulnerabilities? Anything I should worry about (I'm on hardy, should be patched up-to-date) Are folks that do that quickly automatically booted by freenode? By the channel? | 15:39 |
| nealmcb | s/give/gives | 15:39 |
| Myrtti | spam, they are booted, currently several channels are either +r, +R or both | 15:39 |
| jpds | nealmcb: http://blog.freenode.net/2010/01/javascript-spam/ | 15:39 |
| nealmcb | Myrtti, jpds - Thanks! | 15:43 |
| Myrtti | FYI, #mer got just hit | 16:15 |
| ubot2 | nixternal called the ops in #ubuntu-locoteams () | 17:08 |
| jpds | m4v, erUSUL: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/513915 | 19:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 513915 in guadalinex "IRC Clients join Ubuntu channels by default" [Undecided,New] | 19:40 |
| jpds | m4v, erUSUL: "This bug affects me too". | 19:40 |
| erUSUL | to be fair it affects #ubuntu channels. #ubuntu ops are more affected then me ;) | 19:43 |
| erUSUL | anyway; +1 from me | 19:43 |
| m4v | erUSUL: We do get some users in #ubuntu-es asking for support, I wonder how different is that distro from Ubuntu | 22:11 |
| m4v | should we try to help them, or just plainly direct them to #guadalinex? | 22:13 |
| topyli | m4v, what does #guadalinex look like? are there enough helpers, or would it be full of newbies if you directed everyone there? | 22:49 |
| topyli | need to consider the support too. some basic things are probably similar enough | 22:50 |
| topyli | ideally they should have a sustainable support channel of course, but who knows | 22:50 |
| m4v | their channel seems empty | 22:59 |
| m4v | and maybe abandoned, freenode-staff is the founder.. | 23:01 |
| m4v | if guadalinex is just a rebranded Ubuntu then I wouldn't mind getting them in #ubuntu-es, maybe we can even win a regular helper | 23:06 |
| topyli | well if we're lucky, it's not that different | 23:10 |
| topyli | i don't know guadalinex very well, but i'm inclined to assume that it just has a slightly different default set of applications, and localization | 23:11 |
| topyli | i might be horribly wrong just as well | 23:11 |
| topyli | also, not all of them are likely to be newbies at all | 23:15 |
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